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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Palette_swap&amp;diff=642901</id>
		<title>Talk:Palette swap</title>
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		<updated>2011-10-02T00:51:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;108.3.232.245: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Does Alpha Trion really count as a palette swap? From what I understand, palette swaps are just random characters given familiar bodies. That was actually Alpha Trion in that picture. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 02:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Nop, I don&#039;t think Image:FishermanTrion.jpg|this pic of A.Trion is palette swap. Also, [[:Image:FFODHaul.jpg|the picture]] of Long Haul should be just an animation error rather than a palette swap. -- [[User:TX55|TX55]] 02:35, 6 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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More importantly, does anyone have any screencaps of a TF video game that uses palette-swapped characters?  I KNOW the TF Movie game does it, do any of the older ones?  [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 13:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hmmm, I remember there is Rodimus Prime who is actually a palette swap of Ultra Magnus in [[Transformers: Mystery of Convoy]]. --[[User:TX55]] 14:29, 26 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The C64 &#039;shooter&#039; game (I forget the actual name of it) had many, MANY palette swapped Decepticons in it. They were mostly the &#039;seeker-recolor&#039; variants, but some missions had armies of oddly-colored Soundwaves, Reflectors, Buzzsaws, etc. as well. Been a long time since I&#039;ve had that game, though. [[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]] 16:22, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pallete swapped Constructicons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the screen capture with the two seekers that is colored like Skywarp and Thundercracker, the Constructicons were strangly misincolored.-EvanRanger&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Palette_swap&amp;diff=642900</id>
		<title>Talk:Palette swap</title>
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		<updated>2011-10-02T00:51:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;108.3.232.245: /* Pallete swapped Constructicons */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Does Alpha Trion really count as a palette swap? From what I understand, palette swaps are just random characters given familiar bodies. That was actually Alpha Trion in that picture. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 02:23, 6 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Nop, I don&#039;t think Image:FishermanTrion.jpg|this pic of A.Trion is palette swap. Also, [[:Image:FFODHaul.jpg|the picture]] of Long Haul should be just an animation error rather than a palette swap. -- [[User:TX55|TX55]] 02:35, 6 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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More importantly, does anyone have any screencaps of a TF video game that uses palette-swapped characters?  I KNOW the TF Movie game does it, do any of the older ones?  [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 13:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hmmm, I remember there is Rodimus Prime who is actually a palette swap of Ultra Magnus in [[Transformers: Mystery of Convoy]]. --[[User:TX55]] 14:29, 26 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The C64 &#039;shooter&#039; game (I forget the actual name of it) had many, MANY palette swapped Decepticons in it. They were mostly the &#039;seeker-recolor&#039; variants, but some missions had armies of oddly-colored Soundwaves, Reflectors, Buzzsaws, etc. as well. Been a long time since I&#039;ve had that game, though. [[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]] 16:22, 31 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pallete swapped Constructicons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the screen capture with the two seekers that is colores like Skywarp and Thundercracker, the Constructicons were strangly misincolored.-EvanRanger&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Laserbeak_(SG)&amp;diff=642898</id>
		<title>Talk:Laserbeak (SG)</title>
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		<updated>2011-10-02T00:41:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;108.3.232.245: /* Laserbeak toy release */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;So what makes us so sure that this isn&#039;t [[Buzzsaw (SG)|Buzzsaw]]? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 11:59, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Good question, especially since &amp;quot;Shattered Expectations&amp;quot; Laserbeak uses a gold and blue color scheme, which matches up better with the all-gold that &amp;quot;Buzzsaw&amp;quot; has. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:22, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes but how do we know that the one we identify as Buzzsaw isn&#039;t Laserbeak? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 12:24, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That was my point, actually. That I think SG &amp;quot;Buzzsaw&amp;quot;&#039;s gold color scheme matches up better with SE Laserbeak than SG &amp;quot;Laserbeak&amp;quot;&#039;s red and white does. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Yes I understood that, but my point was what tells us that the red one is Laserbeak, while the gold one is Buzzsaw, both haven&#039;t been officially named. I think we should add that to the notes.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 15:52, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I guess what I was really trying to say is, I think we got it wrong, or at least made the poorer of two guesses, unless someone has some other info on the matter. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:55, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::It is a damned question though. I say LIGBIR!:P But as you mentioned the SE Laserbeak matches the Buzzsaw a lot more than this red bird, was his name officially revealed as Laserbeak or did we just assume it&#039;s him? Cos if it&#039;s the later we could at least move that part to Buzzsaw. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:01, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Expectations Laserbeak was yellow and blue to match Armada Laserbeak. Regular Shattered glass LB and BS seem to have been created with no connection/thought back to that at all, simply reflecting the colors of the Autobot tapes Steeljaw and Ramhorn. Since the assignment of colors to SG LB and BS seems to have disregarded Expectations I think the correct choice was made to follow Occum&#039;s razor and assume the red one is still LB and the gold one BS untill there&#039;s any reason to think otherwise --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.72.27|76.28.72.27]] 16:10, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::As the originator of this page I just called it as I saw it at the time - Red Laserbeak and Gold Buzzsaw - but I have no real attachment to them being that way round. I always saw SE Laserbeak as a separate character, tbh, though given that they&#039;re both essentially one-panel cameos, it&#039;s hard to call either way. I&#039;m certainly not going to cry foul if the pictures get swapped around, I&#039;ll go with consensus. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 08:50, 28 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Laserbeak toy release ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We wish we have him as a toy as a redeco of Energon Divebomb.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Blitzwing (SG)</title>
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		<updated>2011-09-30T21:06:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;108.3.232.245: /* What will the other Blitzwings think? */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;We&#039;re really thinking more Warpath than Broadside for him?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 18:35, 7 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re both sorta right... [http://comments.deviantart.com/1/126751454/1101848034 According to the artist], he was shooting for Warpath and ended up with Broadside instead. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 18:42, 7 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I can&#039;t believe I didn&#039;t think of Broadside. Oh well, if both works... --[[User:Apoc|Apoc]] 18:52, 7 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It&#039;s okay. I didn&#039;t think about Warpath because he&#039;s not a triplechanger.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 19:11, 7 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What will the other Blitzwings think? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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G1 Blitzwing: Well, why is my mirror counterpart doing evil?!&lt;br /&gt;
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TFA Blitzwing (Icy): If he does not do evil..&lt;br /&gt;
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TFA Blitzwing (Hothead): Ve will tear his spark and..&lt;br /&gt;
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TFA Blitzwing (Random): Ve make a cake!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Laserbeak (SG)</title>
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		<updated>2011-09-30T21:00:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;108.3.232.245: /* SG Laserbeak&amp;#039;s new body? */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;So what makes us so sure that this isn&#039;t [[Buzzsaw (SG)|Buzzsaw]]? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 11:59, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Good question, especially since &amp;quot;Shattered Expectations&amp;quot; Laserbeak uses a gold and blue color scheme, which matches up better with the all-gold that &amp;quot;Buzzsaw&amp;quot; has. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:22, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes but how do we know that the one we identify as Buzzsaw isn&#039;t Laserbeak? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 12:24, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That was my point, actually. That I think SG &amp;quot;Buzzsaw&amp;quot;&#039;s gold color scheme matches up better with SE Laserbeak than SG &amp;quot;Laserbeak&amp;quot;&#039;s red and white does. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Yes I understood that, but my point was what tells us that the red one is Laserbeak, while the gold one is Buzzsaw, both haven&#039;t been officially named. I think we should add that to the notes.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 15:52, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I guess what I was really trying to say is, I think we got it wrong, or at least made the poorer of two guesses, unless someone has some other info on the matter. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:55, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::It is a damned question though. I say LIGBIR!:P But as you mentioned the SE Laserbeak matches the Buzzsaw a lot more than this red bird, was his name officially revealed as Laserbeak or did we just assume it&#039;s him? Cos if it&#039;s the later we could at least move that part to Buzzsaw. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:01, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Expectations Laserbeak was yellow and blue to match Armada Laserbeak. Regular Shattered glass LB and BS seem to have been created with no connection/thought back to that at all, simply reflecting the colors of the Autobot tapes Steeljaw and Ramhorn. Since the assignment of colors to SG LB and BS seems to have disregarded Expectations I think the correct choice was made to follow Occum&#039;s razor and assume the red one is still LB and the gold one BS untill there&#039;s any reason to think otherwise --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.72.27|76.28.72.27]] 16:10, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::As the originator of this page I just called it as I saw it at the time - Red Laserbeak and Gold Buzzsaw - but I have no real attachment to them being that way round. I always saw SE Laserbeak as a separate character, tbh, though given that they&#039;re both essentially one-panel cameos, it&#039;s hard to call either way. I&#039;m certainly not going to cry foul if the pictures get swapped around, I&#039;ll go with consensus. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 08:50, 28 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== SG Laserbeak&#039;s new body? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to see a toy release of him as a redeco of Energon Divebomb?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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