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		<title>Talk:Don Murphy</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;108.80.48.29: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I corrected the bit about Moore; adaptations still happen, and he won&#039;t prevent them because comics are a collaborative medium and it&#039;s not his say, but he refuses to accept any money for them.  I recommend that the last, made-up bit should be removed, both for the inaccuracy and because I think it belabors the joke; we&#039;d have a better, funnier article without it.  The disambig makes me smile. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 04:01, 10 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:He actually &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; disallowing adaptions of all the work he has full copyright control over.  Much of his work is co-owned with  Marvel or DC, or just the artist he was collaborating with under terms such that he can&#039;t block the sale of rights from being sold.  So he&#039;s blocking what he can, and refusing to take money for (and disavowing) the rest.&lt;br /&gt;
:The article originally had a note to that effect, but I worried that the level of detail into Alan Moore&#039;s business dealings was excessive for an article on Don Murphy.  (Really, I can only justify the long lawsuit footnote because the entirely COINCIDENTAL fact that it was &#039;&#039;Don&#039;&#039; on the DVD commentary cheerily affirming the damningly circumstantial production timeline.)  I will try to either add it in, or if that doesn&#039;t work render the Moore statement into a more general &#039;left hollywood&#039; that encompasses both states of affairs.&lt;br /&gt;
:The Majin Zarak disambig makes me smile too, but I wish I hadn&#039;t forgotten the word &#039;the.&#039;  You&#039;re probably right about the Ewok joke- it&#039;s a holdover from the first draft of the article when I though it was just going to be a &#039;what a jerk!&#039; joke- before I started reading and realized that the man actually &#039;&#039;has&#039;&#039; left a trail of destruction, chaos and lawsuits in his wake on virtually ever project he&#039;s ever been attached to.  (Sadly that that poitn it meant I had to be &#039;&#039;accurate&#039;&#039; and fact-checking and researching takes much longer.)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m gonna run an errand- so I&#039;ll take a look at article revisions in about 40 minutes.  If you want to get in any edits without stepping on my toes before then, now&#039;s the chance.  ;) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ah, good to know.  I figure what I changed the Moore line to is as succinct and accurate as we can get (I mostly just want to fend off any questions about V For Vendetta and the like), but I&#039;m not particularly attached to it.[[User:Chip|Chip]] 04:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Elaborately cited &#039;&#039;factual&#039;&#039; articles?  Going back to templates used on the page and making style tweaks- then stopping to write documentation on them complete with citations, proper interwiki linking and notes on forward-computability and helpful hidden comments for future editors?&lt;br /&gt;
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This is the &#039;&#039;last time&#039;&#039; I&#039;m taking Adderall before starting an article.  From now on I&#039;m only editing the wiki while I&#039;m off my meds! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Picture ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So... is there a &#039;&#039;replacement&#039;&#039; image Don Murphy to go along with the removal of the article&#039;s main picture?&lt;br /&gt;
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I realize this is part of a &amp;quot;TF in pop culture&amp;quot; purge, but that wasn&#039;t the main image for pop value-- it was the main image because there &#039;&#039;literally&#039;&#039; isn&#039;t any other picture of Don Murphy online, so a reasonably representative caricature was substituted, as is in line with Wikipedia&#039;s general source-value cascade for biographical pictures.&lt;br /&gt;
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I object to its removal as a pop-culture purge, because it&#039;s not here as pop culture.  If you wish to remove it- scrounds another picture.  I&#039;m sure Murphy&#039;s reared his ugly head at a &#039;con somewhere. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just because we don&#039;t a legal or appropriate picture on hand means we should just use any picture&lt;br /&gt;
::And yet, those Marvel Age Bullpen editor caricature would be probably &#039;&#039;would&#039;&#039; be considered an acceptable main image if no photo was available, where does the line lie?&lt;br /&gt;
:[...] and you would do well to remember that in light of your uploads of bootleg DVD and youtube screencaps of the movie.&lt;br /&gt;
::The moral authority of the speaker should not impede the moral imperative of the word.&lt;br /&gt;
:If there&#039;s not appropriate or legal pic around, then we just leave the article image-less.&lt;br /&gt;
Appropriate &#039;&#039;or&#039;&#039; legal?  Why, by that standard the bootleg screencaps are gold, since you only need to meet one of the two criteria in order be considered wiki-ready!  (Yes, I&#039;m mocking your rhetorical gaffe because you completeltely ignored my point about wikipedia&#039;s availability-desirability cascade, where at some point, &#039;&#039;yes&#039;&#039;, a caricature does becomes both a legitimate and desirable candidate as a bio picture, and then passively-aggressively compared this to bootleg pictures, then warned me that a logical argument can be completely invalidated by the source making it.  I respond well to none of those things.  Fortunately the issue is moot.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you for the link mysterious stanger! --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:(Giggle)  http://www.latinoreview.com/news.php?id=1502&lt;br /&gt;
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::I&#039;d have uploaded it myself, but I&#039;m just an IP address. (Rides off into sunset)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Then register an account! --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:02, 7 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Truly this image possesses that rare quality the Buddhist monks call &amp;quot;Bwehehehehehehe!&amp;quot; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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