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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Fan_fiction&amp;diff=731475</id>
		<title>Fan fiction</title>
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		<updated>2012-07-12T09:45:05Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Fan fiction&#039;&#039;&#039; (or &#039;&#039;&#039;fanfic&#039;&#039;&#039;) is fiction written by [[Fandom|fans]] of a property without the explicit or even insinuated approval of the [[copyright]] holder. This allows for many fans to do what they most desire with the material that they are fiddling around with, be it to make a serious and epic story or to just plain mess around and play with their little fantasies. Needless to say, not all fanfics are good, but which are and which aren&#039;t is mostly up to the reader&#039;s discretion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Topics===&lt;br /&gt;
Over the years, an incredibly wide variety of &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; fanfic has been written, including straightforward adventure stories, crossovers with other properties, parodies, incredibly creepy and/or awesome stories in which gruesome acts of [[Decepticon]]-on-[[human|fleshling]] violence are described in tender, loving detail[http://shortpacked.com/comic/book-1-brings-back-the-80s/06-mrs-greg-killmaster/a-61/], and, of course, &amp;quot;erotica&amp;quot; of varying degrees of [[Slag (slang)|slagged]]-upness. Many female [[human]]s have taken to badly writing romantic fanfic either about [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] and [[Alexis Thi Dang|Alexis]]/themselves, or [[Autobot|any]] [[Decepticon|given]] male character with [[Megatron (G1)|any]] [[Starscream (G1)|other]] male character. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Popular Transformers fanfic topics====&amp;lt;!--original characters need mentioning--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[wikipedia:Mary_Sue|Self-insertion]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; Guess what, you&#039;re a Transformer and everyone likes you the best! Here, have the [[Matrix of Leadership]].&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Fan-written episodes:&#039;&#039;&#039; Can range from one story mimicking the structure of a television episode to an entire fake season or [http://www.allspark.com/content/view/6435/20/ whole movie]. Usually written in script form.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Transformer romance|Romance]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; Pick any two Transformers characters &#039;&#039;at all&#039;&#039;. Have them make out and exchange pillow talk. [[Scale]] apparently doesn&#039;t matter here (not that it does anywhere else for that matter).&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Extra-[[Humanization|humanized]] Transformers:&#039;&#039;&#039; Sisters! Cousins! Babies! Daddies! Almost a subcategory of &amp;quot;romance&amp;quot;, since adding even more organic-like components to Transformers really helps along with the... ahem... [[Reproduction|sexual intercourse]]. Scale also does not matter here.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Crossovers:&#039;&#039;&#039; Because civilization is not complete until [[Soundwave (disambiguation)|Soundwave]] somehow becomes human (or not, who cares? It&#039;s a fanfiction!) and enrolls at Riverdale High.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Character-driven stories:&#039;&#039;&#039;  What does [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] think about when he&#039;s alone in space? What&#039;s a typical day for [[Big Daddy (G1)|Big Daddy]]?&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;What if? stories:&#039;&#039;&#039; What if [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] had never become Autobot leader? What if the Ark had never crash-landed on Earth? The possibilities are endless. Notably, [[Hearts of Steel|some]] [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|official]] [[Transformers Comic issue 9|publications]] have also played around with various alternate universes. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Absolute fanwanking:&#039;&#039;&#039; A nerd&#039;s nerd will write these, and they probably involve things like [[Berko]] or [[Forestonite]] and about a hundred other obscure characters. How does everything fit together? Let&#039;s connect the dots, The Question-style!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Hard work pays off===&lt;br /&gt;
In recent years, a few Transformers fanfic writers have made the jump to writing [[Hasbro]]-sanctioned fiction, including [[James Roberts]], [[Ben Yee]], [[Greg Sepelak]], [[Trent Troop]], [[Josh van Reyk]] and [[Shaun Knowler]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Authorial intent]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fanon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Personal canon]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[wikipedia:Fan_fiction|Fan fiction]] at Wikipedia&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://transfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Transformers Fanon Wiki]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.transfictions.net/tffics/index.php Transfictions.net]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.transformersfanfic.com/ Transformers Lexicon]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fandom]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>109.151.117.193</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Fan_fiction&amp;diff=731020</id>
		<title>Fan fiction</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Fan_fiction&amp;diff=731020"/>
		<updated>2012-07-10T17:06:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;109.151.119.235: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Fan fiction&#039;&#039;&#039; (or &#039;&#039;&#039;fanfic&#039;&#039;&#039;) is fiction written by [[Fandom|fans]] of a property without the explicit or even insinuated approval of the [[copyright]] holder. This allows for many fans to do what they most desire with the material that they are fiddling around with, be it to make a serious and epic story or to just plain mess around and play with their little fantasies. Needless to say, not all fanfics are good, but which are and which aren&#039;t is mostly up to the reader&#039;s discretion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Topics===&lt;br /&gt;
Over the years, an incredibly wide variety of &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; fanfic has been written, including straightforward adventure stories, crossovers with other properties, parodies, incredibly creepy and/or awesome stories in which gruesome acts of [[Decepticon]]-on-[[human|fleshling]] violence are described in tender, loving detail[http://shortpacked.com/comic/book-1-brings-back-the-80s/06-mrs-greg-killmaster/a-61/], and, of course, &amp;quot;erotica&amp;quot; of varying degrees of [[Slag (slang)|slagged]]-upness. Many female [[human]]s have taken to badly writing romantic fanfic either about [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] and [[Alexis Thi Dang|Alexis]]/themselves, or [[Autobot|any]] [[Decepticon|given]] male character with [[Megatron (G1)|any]] [[Starscream (G1)|other]] male character. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Popular Transformers fanfic topics====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[wikipedia:Mary_Sue|Self-insertion/original characters]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; Guess what, you&#039;re a Transformer and everyone likes you the best! Here, have the [[Matrix of Leadership]].&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Fan-written episodes:&#039;&#039;&#039; Can range from one story mimicking the structure of a television episode to an entire fake season or [http://www.allspark.com/content/view/6435/20/ whole movie]. Usually written in script form.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Transformer romance|Romance]]:&#039;&#039;&#039; Pick any two Transformers characters &#039;&#039;at all&#039;&#039;. Have them make out and exchange pillow talk. [[Scale]] apparently doesn&#039;t matter here (not that it does anywhere else for that matter).&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Extra-[[Humanization|humanized]] Transformers:&#039;&#039;&#039; Sisters! Cousins! Babies! Daddies! Almost a subcategory of &amp;quot;romance&amp;quot;, since adding even more organic-like components to Transformers really helps along with the... ahem... [[Reproduction|sexual intercourse]]. Scale also does not matter here.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Crossovers:&#039;&#039;&#039; Because civilization is not complete until [[Soundwave (disambiguation)|Soundwave]] somehow becomes human (or not, who cares? It&#039;s a fanfiction!) and enrolls at Riverdale High.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Character-driven stories:&#039;&#039;&#039;  What does [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] think about when he&#039;s alone in space? What&#039;s a typical day for [[Big Daddy (G1)|Big Daddy]]?&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;What if? stories:&#039;&#039;&#039; What if [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] had never become Autobot leader? What if the Ark had never crash-landed on Earth? The possibilities are endless. Notably, [[Hearts of Steel|some]] [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|official]] [[Transformers Comic issue 9|publications]] have also played around with various alternate universes. &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Absolute fanwanking:&#039;&#039;&#039; A nerd&#039;s nerd will write these, and they probably involve things like [[Berko]] or [[Forestonite]] and about a hundred other obscure characters. How does everything fit together? Let&#039;s connect the dots, The Question-style!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Hard work pays off===&lt;br /&gt;
In recent years, a few Transformers fanfic writers have made the jump to writing [[Hasbro]]-sanctioned fiction, including [[James Roberts]], [[Ben Yee]], [[Greg Sepelak]], [[Trent Troop]], [[Josh van Reyk]] and [[Shaun Knowler]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Authorial intent]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Fanon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Personal canon]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[wikipedia:Fan_fiction|Fan fiction]] at Wikipedia&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://transfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Transformers Fanon Wiki]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.transfictions.net/tffics/index.php Transfictions.net]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.transformersfanfic.com/ Transformers Lexicon]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Fandom]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>109.151.119.235</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Chaos_Part_Four:_Genesis&amp;diff=665155</id>
		<title>Chaos Part Four: Genesis</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Chaos_Part_Four:_Genesis&amp;diff=665155"/>
		<updated>2011-11-23T14:52:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;109.151.248.186: Undo revision 665153 by Flydie (Talk)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Comicstory|&lt;br /&gt;
|seriesissue=&#039;&#039;[[The Transformers (IDW)|The Transformers]]&#039;&#039; #30&lt;br /&gt;
|prev=Police Action Part 3: A Second Chance at Eden&lt;br /&gt;
|next=&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;Chaos Part Four: Genesis&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|image=Ongoing 30 Cover.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]&lt;br /&gt;
|date=[[November 16]], [[2011]]&lt;br /&gt;
|coverdate=November 2011&lt;br /&gt;
|story by=[[Mike Costa]] and [[James Roberts]]&lt;br /&gt;
|written by=[[Mike Costa]]&lt;br /&gt;
|art by=[[Livio Ramondelli]]&lt;br /&gt;
|letters by=[[Shawn Lee]]&lt;br /&gt;
|associate editor=[[Carlos Guzman]]&lt;br /&gt;
|editor=[[John Barber]]&lt;br /&gt;
|continuity=[[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]]&lt;br /&gt;
|chronology=[[IDW timeline|Current era (2011)]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
We find out all the evil in the world comes from Obama!.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
*? (3)&lt;br /&gt;
*? (4)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rewind]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Slamdance (G1)|Slamdance]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brainstorm]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
*? (9)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sureshot (G1)|Sureshot]] (10)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jackpot (G1)|Jackpot]] (11)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mainframe (G1)|Mainframe]] (12)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rad]] (13)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] (14)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Crosshairs (G1)|Crosshairs]] (15)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bluestreak (G1)|Silverstreak]] (16)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] (17)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] (18)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] (19)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] (23)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (24)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] (25)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Drift (G1)|Drift]] (26)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|c2=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sweep]]s (20)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (21)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] (27)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] (28)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] (29)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|c4=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Deceptigod]]/[[D-Void]] (22)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Muster your parts - my own soldiers - for the final sortie. I can feel you in my head, trying to master my will. But I will not yield. I will not be &#039;&#039;&#039;conquered&#039;&#039;&#039;. I will not be &#039;&#039;&#039;defied&#039;&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;I&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;AM&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;MEGATRON!&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:— You know who, staring down the Deceptigod.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Errors===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Covers (3)===&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Cover A:&#039;&#039;&#039; Optimus Prime; art by [[Livio Ramondelli]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Cover B:&#039;&#039;&#039; Galvatron; art by Livio Ramondelli.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Cover RI:&#039;&#039;&#039; Black &amp;amp; white art of Megatron; art by Livio Ramondelli.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Ongoing 30 Cover.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:IDW TF 30 B.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:IDW TF 30 RI.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Advertisements===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{comicstub}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Chaos Part 4: Genesis}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 issues]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>109.151.248.186</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Chaos_Part_Four:_Genesis&amp;diff=665151</id>
		<title>Chaos Part Four: Genesis</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Chaos_Part_Four:_Genesis&amp;diff=665151"/>
		<updated>2011-11-23T14:48:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;109.151.248.186: Undo revision 664118 by Chris McFeely (Talk)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Comicstory|&lt;br /&gt;
|seriesissue=&#039;&#039;[[The Transformers (IDW)|The Transformers]]&#039;&#039; #30&lt;br /&gt;
|prev=Police Action Part 3: A Second Chance at Eden&lt;br /&gt;
|next=&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;Chaos Part Four: Genesis&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|image=Ongoing 30 Cover.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]&lt;br /&gt;
|date=[[November 16]], [[2011]]&lt;br /&gt;
|coverdate=November 2011&lt;br /&gt;
|story by=[[Mike Costa]] and [[James Roberts]]&lt;br /&gt;
|written by=[[Mike Costa]]&lt;br /&gt;
|art by=[[Livio Ramondelli]]&lt;br /&gt;
|letters by=[[Shawn Lee]]&lt;br /&gt;
|associate editor=[[Carlos Guzman]]&lt;br /&gt;
|editor=[[John Barber]]&lt;br /&gt;
|continuity=[[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]]&lt;br /&gt;
|chronology=[[IDW timeline|Current era (2011)]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
We find out all the evil in the world comes from Obama!.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
*? (3)&lt;br /&gt;
*? (4)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rewind]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Slamdance (G1)|Slamdance]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brainstorm]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
*? (9)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sureshot (G1)|Sureshot]] (10)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jackpot (G1)|Jackpot]] (11)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mainframe (G1)|Mainframe]] (12)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rad]] (13)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] (14)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Crosshairs (G1)|Crosshairs]] (15)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bluestreak (G1)|Silverstreak]] (16)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] (17)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] (18)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] (19)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] (23)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (24)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] (25)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Drift (G1)|Drift]] (26)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|c2=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sweep]]s (20)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (21)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] (27)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] (28)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] (29)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|c4=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Deceptigod]]/[[D-Void]] (22)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Muster your parts - my own soldiers - for the final sortie. I can feel you in my head, trying to master my will. But I will not yield. I will not be &#039;&#039;&#039;conquered&#039;&#039;&#039;. I will not be &#039;&#039;&#039;defied&#039;&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;I&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;AM&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;MEGATRON!&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:— You know who, staring down the Deceptigod.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Errors===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Covers (3)===&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Cover A:&#039;&#039;&#039; Optimus Prime; art by [[Livio Ramondelli]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Cover B:&#039;&#039;&#039; Galvatron; art by Livio Ramondelli.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Cover RI:&#039;&#039;&#039; Black &amp;amp; white art of Megatron; art by Livio Ramondelli.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Ongoing 30 Cover.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:IDW TF 30 B.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:IDW TF 30 RI.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Advertisements===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{comicstub}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Chaos Part 4: Genesis}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 issues]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>109.151.248.186</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Community_Portal&amp;diff=665128</id>
		<title>MediaWiki talk:Community Portal</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Community_Portal&amp;diff=665128"/>
		<updated>2011-11-23T13:28:18Z</updated>

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== Aligned Timeline ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m going to try and take a stab at creating an Aligned timeline that unites everything we know about the franchise(s) so far. Any help would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 09:48, 17 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Help Wanted ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello one and all.  I&#039;m here representing a newly created Role-Playing forum that is based in the Transformers Universe.  We&#039;re in the early stages yet, and are looking for people to help get the ball rolling.  Since this site seems to lack a dedicated forum (where requests like these would usually be made) and I haven&#039;t seen any other way to effectively say my piece in front of a large audience, I thought that posting here was the best way to &amp;quot;advertise&amp;quot; us, as it were.  I sincerely apologize if this was the wrong move on our part, or if I&#039;ve breached protocol at all, but I can assure everyone that our intentions aren&#039;t malign.  Those interested, please contact me using any of the ways that I have listed on my username page here on this site.  I won&#039;t tempt fate by linking our website here directly =P  &lt;br /&gt;
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Once again, you all have my sincere greetings, and I hope to hear from you soon.  Also, as a side note: the difference in quality between this page and the transformers wikia is amazing.  [[User:Rathian Warrior|Rathian Warrior]] 23:50, 3 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;ve crossed any lines, and frankly, you were polite enough about it that it&#039;s not a big deal, but you could always buy some ad space if you want to raise awareness of your forum.  It&#039;s cheap!  There&#039;s usually a link on every page around the banners, but if you didn&#039;t catch it, you can follow this link: [https://www.projectwonderful.com/advertisehere.php?id=25311&amp;amp;type=4 Project Wonderful TFWiki Page]--[[User:McFly|McFly]] 16:13, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Fictional&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; categories ==&lt;br /&gt;
I think we need to come up with a consistent way to distinguish categories of things that are real and categories of things that have appeared in fiction. So far, we&#039;ve skimmed the issue by using synonyms, such as [[:Category:Companies|companies]] and [[:Category:Businesses|businesses]], but that doesn&#039;t really work for things like [[:Category:Magazines|magazines]], which is already used for real magazines. Currently, we have [[:Category:Fictional books]], [[:Category:Fictional video games]] that consider the fictional entities &amp;quot;different&amp;quot;. On the other hand, we have [[:Category:Real-world events by day]] and [[:Category:Real world films]]. We focus more on the fictional aspect of Transformers, so it makes sense to not point out the fictionality in categories, but &amp;quot;real world&amp;quot; sounds awkward to some. Which one should we use? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:26, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*[http://tardis.wikia.com/ Doctor Who wiki] has a [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Real_world &amp;quot;Real World&amp;quot; category] for real world stuff and in most cases the categories for real world things are at &amp;quot;Real world X&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
:*[http://wookiepedia.org/ Wookiepedia] goes the parenthetical route, with &amp;quot;Books&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Books (real-world)&amp;quot;. Though they also have one or two like &amp;quot;Real world companies&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
:*[http://stargate.wikia.com/ Stargate wiki] has &amp;quot;Books&amp;quot; versus &amp;quot;Stargate books&amp;quot; for real world books.&lt;br /&gt;
:I kinda like the parenthetical approach that Wookiepedia have taken. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:11, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I&#039;d favor pointing out the status of both categories, just to make absolutely clear what they are for. The words can be &amp;quot;Fictional&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Real-world&amp;quot; (I notice both real-world categories use a different spelling. Whichever it&#039;s gonna be (if), only one spelling should be used). &amp;quot;Nonfictional&amp;quot; kinda works as an alternative, would &amp;quot;Real-world&amp;quot; be disliked. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 04:35, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::If we go that route, I think &amp;quot;real-world&amp;quot; should be used, since &amp;quot;real world&amp;quot; is a lot more easier to fix than the other parsing. I like the Wookiepedia approach, but I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s enough to change how we already do categories. The idea to label both categories sounds nice, but &amp;quot;Fictional X&amp;quot; seems incongruous with unlabeled categories, such as &amp;quot;weapons&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;technology&amp;quot;, etc.; considering that our main focus is the fiction, I&#039;m leaning towards only labeling the real stuff. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 13:02, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I think it would be advantageous to put a {{tl|disambig2}} at the top, so people could easily go from the fictional to the real world category too. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:30, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Yeah, I think I put that on [[:Category:Films]] a while ago. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:57, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Speaking of this, I found we handle [[:Category:Films]] like [[:Category:Real people]], wouldn&#039;t this be some, um, confusing? It&#039;s just, somehow, reverse? (Except for the fictional films like &#039;&#039;Honoji&#039;&#039;) According to the logic of how we handle [[:Category:Real people]], shouldn&#039;t we place films like &#039;&#039;40-Year-Old Virgin&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;Godzilla&#039;&#039; in the [[:Category:Real world films]]? --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Godzilla doesn&#039;t go in &amp;quot;Real world films&amp;quot; because it&#039;s not a real world &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; film. The Transformers is implied in that category name. Presumably we could have a &amp;quot;Real films&amp;quot; category for Godzilla, etc, but I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s worth doing. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:53, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::We shouldn&#039;t use &amp;quot;fictional X&amp;quot; for two reasons. One, there things like [[As the Kitchen Sinks]] that are fictional even within the fictional Transformers universe. Second, the wiki is written in-universe by default and putting [[Big Steve&#039;s Used Cars]] in a &amp;quot;fictional businesses&amp;quot; category would kind of break that. Within Transformers fiction, &amp;quot;Big Steve&#039;s Used Cars&amp;quot; is not a fictional company, but &amp;quot;As the Kitchen Sinks&amp;quot; is a fictional TV show. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:47, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::In-universe, As the Kitchen Sinks is not a fictional show. It depicts fictional events and fictional people, yes, but the show itself, as a piece of entertainment, is not fictional. I do get your point, as we actually have things like [[Frankenstein]] that are two layers of fiction removed from us. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:18, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Yes, of course. I meant, in-universe, &#039;&#039;As the Kitchen Sinks&#039;&#039; is a work of fiction, whereas &amp;quot;Big Steve&#039;s Used Cars&amp;quot; is a real business that sells real used cars to real people. Have I been saying it wrong all this time? Wasn&#039;t &#039;&#039;Buck Rogers&#039;&#039; a fictional TV show? Anyway, it sounds like you got my point. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:14, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Or, judging by the fact categories like &amp;quot;Magazines&amp;quot; in used for magazines in our real life and &amp;quot;Companies&amp;quot; for companies in real life, why not just use &amp;quot;Film&amp;quot; for films (such as DOTM) in real life, while we move current contents in &amp;quot;Films&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Films in &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; fictions&amp;quot;? --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::That seems like it would go counter to some of our existing naming schemes. e.g. if we split that out into films by franchise, you&#039;d get &amp;quot;Films in Generation 1&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;Generation 1 films&amp;quot;. Though admittedly the former title might have the advantage that it&#039;s clearer in meaning. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:50, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I think both are equally ambiguous in their meaning. If we still need to clarify the purpose of the categories, we can always spell it out in the category&#039;s introduction. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:03, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Transformers: &amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
We talked a bit about adding back &amp;quot;Transformers: &amp;quot; to the titles of articles [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/Archive51#When_to_omit_.22Transformers.22_from_an_article_title|previously]], and the general sentiment was that people were for it or didn&#039;t have an issue with it. Does anybody else have any input in this matter? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:34, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;m okay with this change, but I do have three questions on execution. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;1.) Whether or not &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; is followed by a colon seems random in our current system. How will that be handled? &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;2.) If &amp;quot;Transformers(:)&amp;quot; is going to be added to every relevant page name, then what about all the extra words in the titles of Japanese stuff? &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;3.) What conseuqneces will this have for categories, lists, storylinks, etc? &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 04:41, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::#I think we&#039;ve had two consistent rules about that: If the title is some kind of phrase, like &amp;quot;Transformers United&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;The Transformers Collection&amp;quot;, or &amp;quot;Transformers Animated&amp;quot;, then we don&#039;t use the colon. If the title is some kind of obvious &amp;quot;title: subtitle&amp;quot; setup (&amp;quot;Transformers: Armada&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Transformers: Prime&amp;quot;), then we use the colon. There&#039;s some borderline examples, but I think we can figure them out one by one. Official sources will help with determining colon-status. The other rule seems to apply to only games: If the title has another subtitle, then the first colon is dropped (ex. [[Transformers Prime: Terrorcon Defense]]). I dunno why, but we can add back the colon, I suppose.&lt;br /&gt;
::#I guess we add them? We could argue it for &#039;&#039;Victory&#039;&#039;, since it was released in English contexts as just &amp;quot;Transformers: Victory&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
::#I think we&#039;re just going to continue the same in relation to those. The articles will still be sorted by their subtitles in categories. Storylinks I could go either way on, but I think the trend is to drop the main title. I&#039;ve been doing that for the AAII storylinks to avoid excessively long links. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:49, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I don&#039;t see how &amp;quot;Transformers United&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Transformers Animated&amp;quot; are any different from &amp;quot;Transformers: Prime&amp;quot;. To me, all three could fall into either of your groups (phrase vs subtitle) and would prefer colons in all of those cases. Of your examples, only &amp;quot;The Transformers Collection&amp;quot; seems to really belong in the &amp;quot;phrase&amp;quot; group. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:22, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::&amp;quot;United&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Animated&amp;quot; are adjectives that modify &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; and have official sources that omit the colon. &amp;quot;Transformers Prime&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t make sense in that way. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:58, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I am not certain about those two &amp;quot;rules&amp;quot; for colons either. They&#039;re rather vague and bound to cause arguments and confusion. It needs to be made more obvious whether a colon should be used or not before &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; can be added everywhere (a help page on the matter would also be handy in the future, me thinks).&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I think that if we would put the cartoon at &#039;&#039;Transformers: Victory&#039;&#039;, that would cause confusion with the manga, storypages, toyline and franchises, none of which were ever brought over and should thus not be named such. If moved, the &#039;&#039;Victory&#039;&#039; cartoon should best go to its Japanese name. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:28, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;shrug* The first rule is mostly there for Transformers Animated, which people will be resistant to moving to have a colon (plus, obvious cases like The Transformers Collection). The second rule I really don&#039;t care about and can be tossed (it mostly only concerns the movie series of video games and online games). [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Are you suggesting there that Victory articles should be moved to &amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory&amp;quot;? I&#039;d disagree with that, if so! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:25, 10 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Why? We can&#039;t go around writing out the full names of Western franchises and stuff but not do so for the Japanese stuff. We already have &amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers&amp;quot; written out for the 1985 &amp;amp; 1986 Japanese franchises, so why not &#039;&#039;Victory&#039;&#039;? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 07:30, 10 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Victory (the cartoon) has been released in the West as &amp;quot;Transformers: Victory&amp;quot;, to me that means that the official English name of the franchise &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; Transformers: Victory. Yes, we should give the full Japanese title at the beginning of the franchise page but there is no reason to move anything to that name. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:35, 10 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::That was pretty much my reasoning too (also typing out the full name every time we wanted to link to it would be tedious). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:59, 10 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Tying out &amp;quot;(franchise)&amp;quot; every time for everything is more tedious, but we still have it (for... some reason). Ditto long titles like [[The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers]] and [[Transformers Vault]]&#039;s previous ridiculously long title. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::But I guess the general principle of &amp;quot;Transformers: &amp;quot; is acceptable to most. I&#039;ll start moving the noncontroversial pages (Western comics and cartoons with definite subtitles, etc.) if there&#039;s no opposition in the next few hours. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:08, 10 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::Is there a difference between [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering]] and [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Ascending|Transformers: Beast Wars: The Ascending]]? I must admit, the comma/colon distinction seems kinda arbitrary. Also, these page names seem kind of overlong and stupid, what&#039;s wrong with [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Ascending|The Ascending]] and [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering|The Gathering]]? It&#039;s a Transformers wiki and those are Beast Wars series; prefixing everything we possibly can with &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; is only going to clog up the search box and make editing just that bit more arduous. What were the arguments in favour of this again? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 16:21, 12 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::That&#039;s the formatting used in the indicia. Your complaint about the search box is silly; did you really think typing &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; into it yielded anything useful 99% of the time?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::Like it or not, &amp;quot;Transformers: &amp;quot; is the part of the name of many things, and the hoops we have to go through to maintain this silly system of dropping it from article titles has gotten ridiculous and inconsistent. Adding &amp;quot;Transformers: &amp;quot; to article titles, on the other hand, adds &#039;&#039;clarity&#039;&#039; and avoids pointless disambiguation. &amp;quot;The Transformers: Bumblebee&amp;quot; is preferable to &amp;quot;Bumblebee (comic)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Transformers: Sector 7&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Sector 7 (comic)&amp;quot;, etc. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:44, 12 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::I get that it&#039;s useful in some cases, but it just seems like applying the rule across the board means we&#039;re overcomplicating the issue. Occam&#039;s razor has a lot going for it, and for user-friendliness I&#039;d go for brevity. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 17:11, 12 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Also on an Occam&#039;s razor tip, &amp;quot;Bumblebee (comic)&amp;quot; conveys more information in fewer characters than &amp;quot;Transformers: Bumblebee&amp;quot;. I really don&#039;t understand why the latter is preferable. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 14:06, 13 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::There&#039;s something to say for either argument, but as it is, we have proven to be unable to keep to one consistent &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot;-as-part-of-the-title policy at least since TFA. And if trying to keep &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; out of the deal doesn&#039;t work, we oughta give the alternative a chance. I don&#039;t think it necesarilly makes it harder to find anything, as the search box reacts to words even if they are not the first part of a page title. And I want to have the changes in clear perspective before I might suggest deleting a few redirects, so at least for now, searches won&#039;t be any harder and we have a consistent policy. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 14:49, 13 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I gotta say, I&#039;m hating how this is working in practice.  Article titles seem long and ugly to me.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 15:46, 13 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I feel the same, but it seems to be an necessary evil because &amp;quot;Transformers: ***&amp;quot; is a full title? duh. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:45, 13 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I fear the day someone decides to add full titles to disambiguation suffixes as well, e.g. &amp;quot;Optimus Prime (Transformers Animated)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Grindor (Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen)&amp;quot; etc.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:43, 15 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::That would be silly, and I&#039;m pretty sure most people would oppose it. Putting &amp;quot;Transformers:&amp;quot; in names is a change we&#039;d already been drifting towards for a while with, for instance, the War for Cybertron articles all doing it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:32, 15 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::On a related note, it&#039;s a pet peeve of mine when a writeup talks about a specific medium related to a franchise but links to the franchise as a whole instead, such as &amp;quot;Jetfire was released as part of wave 1 of the [[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] toyline&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;in episode 6 of the [[Energon (franchise)|Energon]] cartoon...&amp;quot;.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 17:29, 15 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Would the best solution there be something like &amp;quot;Jetfire was released as part of wave 1 of the [[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] [[Cybertron (toyline)|toyline]]&amp;quot;? --[[Special:Contributions/77.99.176.103|77.99.176.103]] 03:32, 29 September 2011 (EDT) (oops, emvee not logged in)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I think linking to the toyline page is sufficent. There&#039;s no need for an additional link to the corresponding umbrella franchise. The thought behind this is: &amp;quot;If Joe McRandom sees something that interests him and clicks a link, does he want the link to take him straight to the specific topic or to a more general overview?&amp;quot; I think link targets should always be as specific as necessary. If someone gets interested in a broader overview, he can always go one level up. After all, a link referring to G1 Optimus Prime leads to [[Optimus Prime (G1)]], not to [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)]], either. In the same fashion, toyline pages should deeplink to the specific toy entries on the respective characters&#039; pages (or even their toy pages, if applicable). Like, if Joe McRandom is on the [[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe (2008 toyline)]] page, sees a &amp;quot;Prowl&amp;quot; toy listed under &amp;quot;Deluxe Class&amp;quot; and wants to read more about that toy, he wants the &amp;quot;Prowl&amp;quot; link to take him straight to [[Prowl (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)]], not to the [[Prowl (G1)|main character page]] where he then has to scroll down to &amp;quot;toys&amp;quot;, see that G1 Prowl toys have their separate page, go &#039;&#039;there&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;then&#039;&#039; scroll down to &amp;quot;Universe (2008)&amp;quot;. (It currently links to [[Prowl (G1)/toys]], which is at least halfway there.) I will fix this wherever I see it, and implement it when doing writeups.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 08:11, 13 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Suggestion to creating templates===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Do we need some kinds of templates when typing contents for convenience? For my experience in Terminator Wiki, we use templates like &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{T3}} for &#039;&#039;[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]&#039;&#039; or {{TSCC}} for &#039;&#039;[[Terminator: The Sarah Connnor Chronicles]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;. What I&#039;m suggesting is that after we make all franchise names into full title (and we don&#039;t use redirect links), it is some how trouble some when typing the title. So we can make some templates like:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{tf|Armada}} -&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Transformers: Armada]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{tf|Armada|toyline|Pokeformer}} -&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Pokeformer]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{jptf|bwn}} -&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If there is any user who can created complex template, we could make&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{tf|armada|t}} -&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Transformers: Armada]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
parameter 1:&lt;br /&gt;
2010 = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010 (toyline)&lt;br /&gt;
thm = Transformers: The Headmasters (toyline)&lt;br /&gt;
mf = Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (toyline)&lt;br /&gt;
v = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory&lt;br /&gt;
z = Transformers: Zone&lt;br /&gt;
roc = Transformers: Return of Convoy&lt;br /&gt;
oc = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Operation Combination&lt;br /&gt;
armada = Transformers Armada&lt;br /&gt;
bwn = Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo&lt;br /&gt;
mov = Movie&lt;br /&gt;
rotf = Revenge of the Fallen&lt;br /&gt;
tfa = Transformers Animated&lt;br /&gt;
...and (blah blah)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
parameter 2:&lt;br /&gt;
*default* - franchise&lt;br /&gt;
t - toyline&lt;br /&gt;
ct - cartoon&lt;br /&gt;
co - comic&lt;br /&gt;
m - manga&lt;br /&gt;
f - film&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And, if possible:&lt;br /&gt;
if parameter 3 = s (for example), it will become short title like &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:42, 24 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s something I&#039;ve thought about as well. Considering there are a lot of exceptions to the regular naming system (parts of franchises that are called something different or franchises that lack the (franchise) identifier on the wiki because it&#039;s not necessary to disambiguate it), I don&#039;t think a template can be coded to put a link together. A full list system like our TFtoon templates have could maybe work though. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:08, 25 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think with the number of franchises we have, it would end up being a hellishly big template and difficult to maintain for only a minor gain. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:03, 25 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform&amp;quot; Transformers===&lt;br /&gt;
With the insertion of this phrase into the Victory page titles, should it also be inserted into the titles of The Headmasters, Super-God Masterforce, and Zone? now while the immediate answer would be &amp;quot;No&amp;quot;, there are some places that do include this text above the &amp;quot;Toransufōmā&amp;quot; text in each of these series&#039;s logos. An example of this would the [[Transformers Tapestry]] (which even includes it in the Operation combination logo as well) and the [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Columbia_Zone_DVD.jpg Columbia DVD of Zone]. Its inclusion in these places seems more than mere coincidence, so would we take this idea into consideration? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 14:33, 23 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Um, that &#039;&#039;Zone&#039;&#039; DVD does not support your assertion. All of the &#039;&#039;actual&#039;&#039; media for those series (except for the Zone manga and story pages) do not include The &amp;quot;Fight!...&amp;quot; portion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:58, 23 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Technically the whole toyline in Japan from 1985 to 1992 was called &amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers&amp;quot; (as was written on the boxes), so at least the toyline pages for the series of those years would probably need the longer title than just &amp;quot;Transformers: &#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039; (toyline)&amp;quot; --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:04, 25 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So you want to move the toyline pages to some made-up name? Pick one: 1) Merge all of the toyline pages to &amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)&amp;quot; 2) Leave the toyline pages as they are instead of stressing over naming things that technically don&#039;t exist. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:23, 25 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::How is it &amp;quot;made up&amp;quot;? &amp;quot;Tatakae! Chō Robot Seimeitai&amp;quot; means &amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform&amp;quot; and is written above the &amp;quot;Toransufōmā&amp;quot; text on the packages of the 1985-1992 Japanese toys. I&#039;m not proposing we merge all those toyline pages together, but rather something akin to the [[Transformers: Beast Wars (Japanese toyline)|Japanese Beast Wars toyline]] page, in which the individual toylines are kept separate even though they were all collectively the same-named toyline. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 17:25, 25 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::&amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: The Headmasters&amp;quot; and its ilk are the imaginary names. Those articles for imaginary toylines are fine where they are. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:53, 25 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&amp;quot;Movie&amp;quot;===&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s still [[Movie (franchise)]], [[Movie (toyline)]] and more. Shouldn&#039;t that be &amp;quot;Transformers (2007 franchise)&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Transformers (2007 toyline)&amp;quot;, with the current [[Transformers (2007)]] becoming &amp;quot;Transformers (2007 movie)&amp;quot;?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 20:44, 24 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Probably. I didn&#039;t move them, since I wanted to bring it up for discussion first. The film should be moved to just &amp;quot;Transformers (film)&amp;quot;, though. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 21:05, 24 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Movie (&#039;&#039;media&#039;&#039;)&amp;quot; should be moved to &amp;quot;Transformers (2007 &#039;&#039;media&#039;&#039;)&amp;quot; while &amp;quot;Transformers (2007)&amp;quot; goes &amp;quot;Transformers (film)&amp;quot;. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:27, 24 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That push for lexical accuracy strikes me as creating more ambiguity than it resolves.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:06, 25 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Jungaroo==&lt;br /&gt;
Someone made a lovely [[Jungaroo]] gobox, but there&#039;s no page for him. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:23, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think he&#039;s in any applicable fiction, but his [http://home.comcast.net/~BattleBeastSD/MGCKang.html bio card is online here]. Someone will have to translate it from Japanese first though. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:25, 15 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Making the search suggestion work better ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t know if anyone else has this problem, but I noticed sometimes when I type something in the search box, the search suggestions below it jump around and end up on a list which doesn&#039;t quite match what I typed. I think it&#039;s something to do with the speed I&#039;m typing and the amount of time the server takes to respond to each request.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Anyway, I tweaked the javascript for grabbing the suggestions from the server so it would only trigger when I stopped typing. That seems to fix the problem for me, and as a bonus it&#039;s not nagging the server on every keypress. The downside is no instant feedback when I type, but I can live without that if it fixes the other thing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If anyone else is having that problem and wants to have a go, just copy and paste the following into your [[Special:MyPage/monacobook.js|monacobook.js]] (caveat: only tested on Firefox and Chrome):&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
var ss_memory = null;&lt;br /&gt;
var ss_timeron = 0;&lt;br /&gt;
var ss_timer;&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
function DoActualSearch() {&lt;br /&gt;
    ss_timeron=0;&lt;br /&gt;
    var newdiv = document.getElementById(&amp;quot;searchsuggest&amp;quot;);&lt;br /&gt;
    if (!newdiv) {&lt;br /&gt;
        var newdiv = document.createElement(&amp;quot;div&amp;quot;);&lt;br /&gt;
        newdiv.id = &amp;quot;searchsuggest&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;
        var searchdiv = document.getElementById(&amp;quot;searchBody&amp;quot;);&lt;br /&gt;
        searchdiv.appendChild(newdiv);&lt;br /&gt;
    }&lt;br /&gt;
    var x = document.getElementById(&amp;quot;searchInput&amp;quot;).value;&lt;br /&gt;
    if (x == ss_memory) {&lt;br /&gt;
        return;&lt;br /&gt;
    }&lt;br /&gt;
    ss_memory = x;&lt;br /&gt;
    document.getElementById(&amp;quot;searchsuggest&amp;quot;).style.display = &#039;none&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
    if (x.length &amp;lt; 30 &amp;amp;&amp;amp; x.length &amp;gt; 1 &amp;amp;&amp;amp; x.value != &amp;quot;&amp;quot;) {&lt;br /&gt;
        sajax_do_call(&amp;quot;wfAjaxSearchSuggest&amp;quot;, [x], newdiv);&lt;br /&gt;
        document.getElementById(&amp;quot;searchsuggest&amp;quot;).style.display = &#039;block&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
    }&lt;br /&gt;
}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
function MySearchCall() {&lt;br /&gt;
  if(ss_timeron) {&lt;br /&gt;
    clearTimeout(ss_timer);&lt;br /&gt;
    ss_timer=setTimeout(&amp;quot;DoActualSearch();&amp;quot;,500);&lt;br /&gt;
  } else {&lt;br /&gt;
    ss_timer=setTimeout(&amp;quot;DoActualSearch();&amp;quot;,500);&lt;br /&gt;
    ss_timeron=1;&lt;br /&gt;
  }&lt;br /&gt;
}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
function myss_ajax_onload(){&lt;br /&gt;
    var x = document.getElementById(&#039;searchInput&#039;);&lt;br /&gt;
    x.onkeyup = function(){&lt;br /&gt;
        MySearchCall();&lt;br /&gt;
    };&lt;br /&gt;
}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
hookEvent(&amp;quot;load&amp;quot;, myss_ajax_onload);&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Unfortunately it won&#039;t fix the actual contents of the search suggestions, so you&#039;ll still get a bunch of All Hail Megatron issues when you type &amp;quot;Megatron&amp;quot;, but that requires changes on the server. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:02, 14 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hmm.  I feel like adding &amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;ORDER BY `page_counter` DESC&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt; around line 20 of &#039;&#039;suggest.php&#039;&#039; might help w/ our search results, but it&#039;s hard to say for sure given how abstracted mediawiki database calls are, someone would have ot make the change then test it.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:47, 15 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The thought I had was to do a query on article titles starting with the search term, and then if that gives back less than 8 entries, do a second search to fill the rest of the list with titles with the term anywhere in the title. The search suggest currently supports both options, but not at the same time. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:07, 15 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Stuff==&lt;br /&gt;
: Firstly, our organization of information related to the junior franchises is terrible and I&#039;d love to do something about it, but I need feedback. We currently have most Japanese and American Go-Bots as separate characters, except for the Japanese Go-Bots from the 1-2-3 line. Though there are requests for a separate Chopper page. Should those pages be split or not? And if so, what about the figures that came with some of the toys. Kid-Bot clearly isn&#039;t the &amp;quot;red driver&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;blue driver&amp;quot;, but the dog and &amp;quot;Gas-Bot&amp;quot; both have fiction in only one of the two franchises, so is it worth separating them? Also, does the unpublished coloring book count as apocrypha or not, seeing as it was mostly approved? And the human characters within, do they count as cameos like Kelly in the Dreamwave comics or separate characters? And does anyone know what the Japanese name was by which the First Transformers were released? The Go-Bots fansite has an image of Dumpkun&#039;s box featuring what looks like a G1 logo, the First Transformers logo and &amp;quot;初めて トランスフォーマー&amp;quot; written on it.&lt;br /&gt;
: Secondly, many disambiguation pages still mention if there&#039;s a separate page for the toys of a character. Is this system still necessary now that we use subpages to separate such stuff under? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 17:07, 23 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I think unpublished stuff is treated as apocrypha, isn&#039;t it? The character page coverage of unreleased Dreamwave issues is in notes, for instance. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:48, 24 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::True, but we don&#039;t know if those were approved or know those weren&#039;t approved. The coloring book was approved, just not released. That makes it better comparable to Wreckers #$, which we do not consider apocrypha (though I wouldn&#039;t know if we&#039;d do that if Wreckers #5 didn&#039;t partially canonize it). [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:39, 1 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Just weighing in on the toy page issue: I find it useful to have these called out on the disambig pages. Being able to go directly from the disambig page to the toy page of a character saves me at least one click (if I see the suite box in time) and often some scrolling (if I don&#039;t see it). However, I won&#039;t fight too hard on this if consensus is for the removal of this feature. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 07:47, 26 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Thinking some more about the Go-Bots stuff, as the Japanese version of Gas-Bot has no fiction, it probably doesn&#039;t need its own page - either link to Gas-Bot&#039;s page or just leave it unlinked in the appropriate toy sections. Same with the US version of the dog. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:30, 24 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Facebook. ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;http://www.facebook.com/pages/TFwikinet/191252494230187&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; us?  Because it&#039;s the #1 link when you search for &amp;quot;TFWiki Facebook,&amp;quot; and our group is nowhere to be seen. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:32, 12 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I think our group is not showing up because you have to have a Facebook account to see it? When I go to the group&#039;s URL, I just get a page prompting me to log in to Facebook. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:47, 12 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::The link is this one: [http://www.facebook.com/groups/28226443881/ http://www.facebook.com/groups/28226443881/], which is the #3 on the search by &amp;quot;TFwiki site:facebook.com&amp;quot; on Google. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:51, 12 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So the other one isn&#039;t ours, and we can&#039;t put a link on it pointing it to the group.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Annoying.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 13 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It&#039;s a &amp;quot;Community page&amp;quot;, whatever that is. Clicking on the &amp;quot;Create a page&amp;quot; button on the top right of that page does bring up some sort of form which seems like it will do something. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:12, 13 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Halloween ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Presuming we&#039;re deco&#039;ing our frontpage for Halloween... does anyone have any suggestions?  Monsters, ghosts, gouls? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:09, 27 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Animated Blitzwing&#039;s random face looks sorta Jack O&#039;Lanterny and could work as a replacement for the Autobot insignia on the site logo, assuming we can find a head-on image of it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:35, 27 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Moving &amp;quot;(Timelines)&amp;quot; articles ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m thinking that, as we don&#039;t bother with &amp;quot;(Timelines)&amp;quot; for SG, TransTech, and Animated characters, we should apply the same across the board and only use it if necessary.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Astrotrain (Timelines)]] → Astrotrain (Cybertron)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cannonball (Timelines)]] → Cannonball (G1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cop-Tur (Timelines)]] → Cop-Tur (G1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Halogen (Timelines)]] → Halogen (G1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Side Burn (Timelines)]] → Side Burn (G1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sky-Byte (Timelines)]] → Sky-Byte (G2)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Switchblade (Timelines)]] → Switchblade (BW)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Thunderblast (Timelines)]] → Thunderblast (G1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Yoketron (Timelines)]] → Yoketron (G1)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The exceptions are the Descent into Evil characters, who don&#039;t really fit in any pre-existing franchise, and the Nexus Prime characters, who don&#039;t originate from a particular universe.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Buzzclaw (Timelines)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dirge (Timelines)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Flareup (Timelines)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Landquake (Timelines)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ricochet (Timelines)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heatwave (Timelines)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thoughts? Or does nobody really care that much? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:19, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Since you asked, I&#039;ll pitch 2¢ into the conversation, since I know a little bit about it. I found out the hard way that wiki &amp;quot;doesn&#039;t bother with &#039;(Timelines)&#039; for Animated.&amp;quot; And by hard way, I mean I was clobbered over the head without a hint of explanation for proposing that a Timelines-original Animated continuity character should be at &amp;quot;(Timelines).&amp;quot; But no hard feelings. I still think &amp;quot;franchise of origin&amp;quot; and not &amp;quot;continuity of origin&amp;quot; is best for disambiguations. For reasons that have been discussed previously on the subject. TransTech and SG are treated as a kind of sub-franchises of Timelines by the wiki, so I think they are an OK exception. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:00, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::The prose stories are identified as &amp;quot;Transformers Timelines presents a Transformers: (franchise) story&amp;quot;. I would say that both franchises are equally valid to the stories, and the fact that non-Timelines stories (Around Cybertron, magazine comics, etc.) bleed together with Timelines stories makes the &amp;quot;(Timelines)&amp;quot; designation convoluted. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:12, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, that&#039;s different. It sounds like you are calling their actual franchise of origin into question, not just their disambiguation. I don&#039;t have an opinion about their actual franchise of origin. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:28, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I&#039;m not denying that they&#039;re Timelines, but saying that they&#039;re better categorized under their other franchise. Like the Animated guys, it seems more instinctive to file [[Side Burn (Timelines)]] under &amp;quot;Side Burn (G1)&amp;quot; instead (not to mention that there&#039;s other Side Burn in Timelines: [[Side Burn (SG)]]).[[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:38, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;d be fine with this. Though, one thing I&#039;d like to propose is giving the Wings Universe characters their own disambiguation suffix. Like maybe &amp;quot;(Wings)&amp;quot; or something. I know it&#039;s a part of G1, but it&#039;s kinda like its own series within the over G1 continuity family like the Japanese G1 series are (which are also given their own suffixes such as &amp;quot;(Victory)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;(ROC)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;(BT)&amp;quot; etc.).&lt;br /&gt;
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:Though, as for the Descent into Evil characters, maybe something like &amp;quot;(DIE)&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;(Descent)&amp;quot; or even just &amp;quot;(Descent into Evil)&amp;quot;. Or, if not, keep them at &amp;quot;(Timelines)&amp;quot;. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 11:51, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I think the DIE guys are fine where they are (although you could argue moving [[Ricochet (Timelines)]] because of [[Ricochet (SG)]], but I don&#039;t really care). As for the Wings Universe guys getting their own disambiguation, eh... [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:02, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I am &#039;&#039;&#039;definitely absolutely&#039;&#039;&#039; against creating a (Wings) disambiguation when (G1) or (Timelines) work perfectly fine.  We do NOT disambiguate by continuity except by absolute necessity within a franchise.  Making up a (Wings) parenthetical just because incredibly confuses our disambiguation policy for no real reason.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:46, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::And what exactly keeps the Descent into Evil guys from being tagged G1? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:29, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Is the intermezzo period between G1 and BW considered G1 or BW?&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It&#039;s all G1 characters... and IIRC the Insecticons were supposed ot be part of Insecticon plans which had been around for ages, so the characters weren&#039;t &amp;quot;BW-era only&amp;quot; characters...&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I could support a G1 disambigif you talked me into it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:01, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::DIE fiction (Descent into Evil itself and [[Intimidation Game]]) has elements of both BW and G1; it doesn&#039;t have a certain franchise placement. Dirge (Timelines) and Ricochet (Timelines) also have namesakes firmly in G1. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:14, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::BW is both BW and G1.  And G1 has been back-incorporating BW elements since, like, 1995.  The fact DIE has G1 and BW doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s part of neither.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:25, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I think that, by the nature of Timelines, it feels more natural to parse that specific set of characters by their continuity or parent-franchise of origin. Honestly, I think the Nexus components (&#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; of them) are really the best and only candidates for the Timelines parser.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Also, I made a [http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Template:c quick template] that you guys could use here to simplify the coding for whenever you need to link a continuity-parsed name.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 15:37, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Unfortunately I don&#039;t think that template would work as well here, because our articles are not consistently named by franchise. For instance [[Lightspeed (G1 Technobot)]], [[Flattop (Autobot)]] and [[Impactor]] are all (G1) characters but don&#039;t use (G1) in their title, so the template wouldn&#039;t work for linking to them. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:05, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think that Timelines is a pretty clunky franchise for the purposes of this wiki, in that it covers multiple continuities.  I think the proposal on the table makes sense.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:31, 3 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Two spaces after a period in a sentence ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve noticed this for a while on the Wiki. In practice, it makes no difference as the software displays one space the same way it displays one. However, I&#039;ve been wondering why people do it. Now I &#039;&#039;&#039;know: They&#039;&#039;&#039; were taught so in school. &#039;&#039;&#039;By teachers who were taught on friggin&#039; &#039;&#039;typewriters&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&#039; So the &amp;quot;two spaces after a period&amp;quot; rule is a leftover from the typewriter days, where it was a necessity, but it&#039;s completely obsolete on computers. [http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html Source]--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 07:16, 4 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The sentence spacing rules were, in fact, developed by typographers, but were not phased out via the magical introduction of the personal computer.  The em-space rule exists for monospaced fonts, which were still fairly common for a great number of printers through the mid-1980s.  If you would like to begin a tyrannical series of grammar-based wiki edits, I would begin by avoiding the use of prepositions at the start of sentences.  I would also advise some respect for the proper use of colons and semi-colons, as typographical errors should not take priority over proper word selection and punctuation.  Cheers!  --[[User:McFly|McFly]] 14:20, 7 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Are you referring to sentences beginning with prepositional phrases for the sake of emphasis (also known as an introductory modifiers)? That&#039;s totally valid. Or do you mean idiocies such as relative clauses that are separated from the preceding main clause by a period instead of a comma? The most glaring typographic blunders I encounter on the wiki typically go hand in hand with awkwardly worded sentences and clunky terminology, so I&#039;m inclined to assume the same person(s) is/are responsible for all of those.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 20:14, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I have bolded an example.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:14, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Aw, you altered your post.  No fair!  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:16, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::What&#039;d I alter? I just moved it up. Anyway... I&#039;d call that one &amp;quot;deliberate departure from proper grammar for the sake of dramatic emphasis&amp;quot;. It&#039;s about as improper as using a period after &#039;&#039;every. Single. Word.&#039;&#039; If it&#039;s obvious from the context that it&#039;s done for emphasis, I&#039;d call it acceptable as long as it&#039;s not used inflationary. I&#039;m sure we have a few cases of &amp;quot;We know it&#039;s not proper grammar, but we want to stress a point here&amp;quot; on the wiki. (How did the saying go again? &amp;quot;Know the rules first before you break them&amp;quot;?)--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 20:28, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:....or you can just set the bot to convert &amp;quot;  &amp;quot; to &amp;quot; &amp;quot;. Since we don&#039;t output monospace font, or anything.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 15:22, 7 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Over the whole wiki, those extra spaces account for maybe 20kb of data, which I don&#039;t think is worth worrying about. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:21, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Typed text is typed text, and the double-space after a period is still correct.  Shall we next be told that we&#039;re &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot; for not having the wiki use the metric system, or for writing down dates with the month before the day instead of after it?  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 23:31, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Oh, and I bolded something too.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 23:36, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Due to habit, I&#039;m gonna double-space until I die.  I really don&#039;t think that needs to be considered a problem.  Is that really a problem?  An extra millimeter between sentences?  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:51, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Nevermore &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; right about it being mostly obsolete, but for purely technical reasons: All double (triple, etc.) spaces are collapsed down to one for display in HTML. If you want the extra spaces to actually be viewable as extra blank space, you have to use &amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;amp;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;nbsp;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;. So if you double-space here on the wiki, it only shows up when you edit the page. For whatever that&#039;s worth. (Not really taking sides, just presenting the info.) --[[Special:Contributions/67.252.49.31|67.252.49.31]] 06:08, 9 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== More on the search box/&amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; everything ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Typing &amp;quot;Energon&amp;quot; into the search box does not give me [[Energon (franchise)]], [[Energon (cartoon)]] or [[Energon (toyline)]] as top results. Same for &amp;quot;Cybertron&amp;quot;. I assume this has to do with the recent &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; prefixing for article titles. However, typing &amp;quot;Animated&amp;quot; into the seach box &#039;&#039;does&#039;&#039; give me franchise and toyline as top results, so it should be &#039;&#039;possible&#039;&#039; despite the prefixing.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 07:36, 6 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s purely alphabetical, dude. &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; shows up before &#039;&#039;Arcee (Animated)&#039;&#039; because &amp;quot;An&amp;quot; precedes &amp;quot;Ar&amp;quot;, whereas &#039;&#039;Arcee (Energon)&#039;&#039; comes up before &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; because &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; precedes &amp;quot;E&amp;quot;. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 08:13, 6 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::There&#039;s an option in the search suggest tool to limit the results to stuff starting with the search query rather than with stuff with the term anywhere in their titles, however it&#039;s not something that can be configured through MediaWiki. There&#039;s a bit of discussion about it in the &amp;quot;Making the search suggestion work better&amp;quot; section up above. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:36, 6 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If we wanted to do &#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039;, when we shouldn&#039;t have prefixed &amp;quot;Transformers:&amp;quot; before hundreds of articles 3 weeks ago. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:06, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::We still have the titles without &amp;quot;Transformers: &amp;quot; as redirects though, so they&#039;ll still show up. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:23, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Spam-dalism ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is that the neologism for it? Anyway, somehow the ReCaptcha is failing to stop the automated spam, and I&#039;m guessing the IP&#039;s are all very different.&lt;br /&gt;
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How old are the accounts when they do this? If they&#039;re fairly new, would it be possible to simply block IPs and new accounts from inserting new external links? If not (or if that&#039;s unworkable), would it be possible to flag such edits for review the way that wikipedia does to edits on contested pages?&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, is there any chance these are at least coming from the same proxy? The fact that they&#039;re getting past ReCaptcha makes it seem like these are actual people doing this, unless ReCaptcha only activates on certain namespaces.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 14:25, 18 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was using captcha with images on my phpBB installation on another site (Doctor Who related) until yesterday and getting a half dozen spammers a day signing up in despite of it. Yesterday I switched to a Question Answer challenge which asks the person registering to name the main character&#039;s time machine, and so far it has stopped the spammers dead.&lt;br /&gt;
:MediaWiki has [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QuestyCaptcha QuestyCaptcha] which looks like it works in exactly the same way, and works with the ConfirmEdit extension we already have installed. If we can get that installed and set up, it might be more effective than the image-based system we use now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:39, 18 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::What would the questions be? It can&#039;t be too obvious or too obscure. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:31, 18 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Not necessarily. The question I&#039;m using on my Doctor Who site is obvious if you have any knowledge at all of the source material, but it seems to be working. We can always start with something easy and see how we go. Most likely all of the spammers are using bots anyway. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:49, 18 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::&amp;quot;What is the name of the red-and-blue semi Autobot?&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;What&#039;s the name of the blue casette player Decepticon?&amp;quot;, or &amp;quot;What is the name of the yellow semi Micromaster Autobot with a hydraulic crane?&amp;quot;[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 17:50, 18 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: &amp;quot;What is the fandom&#039;s usual reaction when a new franchise is announced?&amp;quot; :p [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:56, 18 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;If Dick has two apples and Jane has two apples, how many apples do they have?  (3 letters.)&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:09, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, but then it would be so easy for users to use only three exclamation marks, and forget the requisite four exclamation marks and a 1.&lt;br /&gt;
::No but yeah, a question helps a lot. Might even be worth doing for all IP edits and new accounts, not just those with external links.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 15:57, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::While we&#039;re on the subject, is it somehow possible to flag certain terms or words used by IP editors and auto-block them? *coughcoughobamacoughcough*[[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 16:31, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::...but we have an article on [[Barry Obama]].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Are you trying to whitewash the wiki? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:13, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: It was just an academic question; after all, I&#039;m sure that you&#039;ve noticed our considerable problem with a certain IP editor lately.  [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:19, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Well yes... but I couldn&#039;t resist. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:43, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It&#039;s getting to the point where I&#039;m thinking a temp ban on the whole ISP might get better results. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:51, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::sooo...who would you need to talk to about getting this set up, and what exactly do you want to restrict?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 19:45, 21 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::The guy whose IP addresses are always located in England who keeps vandalizing articles with Obama-related nonsense. Doesn&#039;t look like even banning IP ranges stops him. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:01, 22 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::...so, there&#039;s no way to stop this lunatic? [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 11:09, 22 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Options, in order of severity:&lt;br /&gt;
#Block all new uses of the word &amp;quot;Obama&amp;quot; to all anonymous editors.&lt;br /&gt;
#Block anonymous editors entirely.&lt;br /&gt;
#Destroy Obama!.&lt;br /&gt;
:But really, that&#039;s a separate issue with probably a separate solution, since the guy is a some kind of being. To deal with the spamdalism, I think you guys should add a &amp;quot;name that Transformer-mon!&amp;quot; question, which should cut down heavily on automated edits, and if they still get through, look at blocking all uses of external links for anonymous or new editors. The use of the question for all IP edits is fairly standard, so it should be easy to implement, and you can look into harsher measures if the bots still make it through. However, I really think you guys should make an effort to get this setup, because the conversation keeps kind of drifting down and the vandalism keeps happening.[[Special:Contributions/98.223.102.157|98.223.102.157]] 02:29, 23 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But that means well be blocking that word like it&#039;s offensive? [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 03:49, 23 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::And it will be punishing a lot of innocent people in the UK.[[Special:Contributions/109.151.248.186|109.151.248.186]] 08:28, 23 November 2011 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Arriving|Arriving]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Leaving|Leaving]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki:Ads|Ads]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Damage Control Central|Damage Control Central]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Project:Bookworm Crash]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Arriving2|Arriving Take 2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Relicensing|Relicensing]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Vandalism|Vandalism]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;GoBots Sister Wiki:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Aligned Timeline ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m going to try and take a stab at creating an Aligned timeline that unites everything we know about the franchise(s) so far. Any help would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 09:48, 17 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Help Wanted ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello one and all.  I&#039;m here representing a newly created Role-Playing forum that is based in the Transformers Universe.  We&#039;re in the early stages yet, and are looking for people to help get the ball rolling.  Since this site seems to lack a dedicated forum (where requests like these would usually be made) and I haven&#039;t seen any other way to effectively say my piece in front of a large audience, I thought that posting here was the best way to &amp;quot;advertise&amp;quot; us, as it were.  I sincerely apologize if this was the wrong move on our part, or if I&#039;ve breached protocol at all, but I can assure everyone that our intentions aren&#039;t malign.  Those interested, please contact me using any of the ways that I have listed on my username page here on this site.  I won&#039;t tempt fate by linking our website here directly =P  &lt;br /&gt;
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Once again, you all have my sincere greetings, and I hope to hear from you soon.  Also, as a side note: the difference in quality between this page and the transformers wikia is amazing.  [[User:Rathian Warrior|Rathian Warrior]] 23:50, 3 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;ve crossed any lines, and frankly, you were polite enough about it that it&#039;s not a big deal, but you could always buy some ad space if you want to raise awareness of your forum.  It&#039;s cheap!  There&#039;s usually a link on every page around the banners, but if you didn&#039;t catch it, you can follow this link: [https://www.projectwonderful.com/advertisehere.php?id=25311&amp;amp;type=4 Project Wonderful TFWiki Page]--[[User:McFly|McFly]] 16:13, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Fictional&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; categories ==&lt;br /&gt;
I think we need to come up with a consistent way to distinguish categories of things that are real and categories of things that have appeared in fiction. So far, we&#039;ve skimmed the issue by using synonyms, such as [[:Category:Companies|companies]] and [[:Category:Businesses|businesses]], but that doesn&#039;t really work for things like [[:Category:Magazines|magazines]], which is already used for real magazines. Currently, we have [[:Category:Fictional books]], [[:Category:Fictional video games]] that consider the fictional entities &amp;quot;different&amp;quot;. On the other hand, we have [[:Category:Real-world events by day]] and [[:Category:Real world films]]. We focus more on the fictional aspect of Transformers, so it makes sense to not point out the fictionality in categories, but &amp;quot;real world&amp;quot; sounds awkward to some. Which one should we use? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:26, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I thought I&#039;d cheat and see how some of the other fictional Wikis deal with the problem. Three different approaches I saw:&lt;br /&gt;
:*[http://tardis.wikia.com/ Doctor Who wiki] has a [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Real_world &amp;quot;Real World&amp;quot; category] for real world stuff and in most cases the categories for real world things are at &amp;quot;Real world X&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
:*[http://wookiepedia.org/ Wookiepedia] goes the parenthetical route, with &amp;quot;Books&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Books (real-world)&amp;quot;. Though they also have one or two like &amp;quot;Real world companies&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
:*[http://stargate.wikia.com/ Stargate wiki] has &amp;quot;Books&amp;quot; versus &amp;quot;Stargate books&amp;quot; for real world books.&lt;br /&gt;
:I kinda like the parenthetical approach that Wookiepedia have taken. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:11, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I&#039;d favor pointing out the status of both categories, just to make absolutely clear what they are for. The words can be &amp;quot;Fictional&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Real-world&amp;quot; (I notice both real-world categories use a different spelling. Whichever it&#039;s gonna be (if), only one spelling should be used). &amp;quot;Nonfictional&amp;quot; kinda works as an alternative, would &amp;quot;Real-world&amp;quot; be disliked. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 04:35, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::If we go that route, I think &amp;quot;real-world&amp;quot; should be used, since &amp;quot;real world&amp;quot; is a lot more easier to fix than the other parsing. I like the Wookiepedia approach, but I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s enough to change how we already do categories. The idea to label both categories sounds nice, but &amp;quot;Fictional X&amp;quot; seems incongruous with unlabeled categories, such as &amp;quot;weapons&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;technology&amp;quot;, etc.; considering that our main focus is the fiction, I&#039;m leaning towards only labeling the real stuff. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 13:02, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I think it would be advantageous to put a {{tl|disambig2}} at the top, so people could easily go from the fictional to the real world category too. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:30, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Yeah, I think I put that on [[:Category:Films]] a while ago. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:57, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Speaking of this, I found we handle [[:Category:Films]] like [[:Category:Real people]], wouldn&#039;t this be some, um, confusing? It&#039;s just, somehow, reverse? (Except for the fictional films like &#039;&#039;Honoji&#039;&#039;) According to the logic of how we handle [[:Category:Real people]], shouldn&#039;t we place films like &#039;&#039;40-Year-Old Virgin&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;Godzilla&#039;&#039; in the [[:Category:Real world films]]? --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Godzilla doesn&#039;t go in &amp;quot;Real world films&amp;quot; because it&#039;s not a real world &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; film. The Transformers is implied in that category name. Presumably we could have a &amp;quot;Real films&amp;quot; category for Godzilla, etc, but I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s worth doing. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:53, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::We shouldn&#039;t use &amp;quot;fictional X&amp;quot; for two reasons. One, there things like [[As the Kitchen Sinks]] that are fictional even within the fictional Transformers universe. Second, the wiki is written in-universe by default and putting [[Big Steve&#039;s Used Cars]] in a &amp;quot;fictional businesses&amp;quot; category would kind of break that. Within Transformers fiction, &amp;quot;Big Steve&#039;s Used Cars&amp;quot; is not a fictional company, but &amp;quot;As the Kitchen Sinks&amp;quot; is a fictional TV show. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:47, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::In-universe, As the Kitchen Sinks is not a fictional show. It depicts fictional events and fictional people, yes, but the show itself, as a piece of entertainment, is not fictional. I do get your point, as we actually have things like [[Frankenstein]] that are two layers of fiction removed from us. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:18, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Yes, of course. I meant, in-universe, &#039;&#039;As the Kitchen Sinks&#039;&#039; is a work of fiction, whereas &amp;quot;Big Steve&#039;s Used Cars&amp;quot; is a real business that sells real used cars to real people. Have I been saying it wrong all this time? Wasn&#039;t &#039;&#039;Buck Rogers&#039;&#039; a fictional TV show? Anyway, it sounds like you got my point. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:14, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Or, judging by the fact categories like &amp;quot;Magazines&amp;quot; in used for magazines in our real life and &amp;quot;Companies&amp;quot; for companies in real life, why not just use &amp;quot;Film&amp;quot; for films (such as DOTM) in real life, while we move current contents in &amp;quot;Films&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Films in &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; fictions&amp;quot;? --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 23:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::That seems like it would go counter to some of our existing naming schemes. e.g. if we split that out into films by franchise, you&#039;d get &amp;quot;Films in Generation 1&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;Generation 1 films&amp;quot;. Though admittedly the former title might have the advantage that it&#039;s clearer in meaning. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:50, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I think both are equally ambiguous in their meaning. If we still need to clarify the purpose of the categories, we can always spell it out in the category&#039;s introduction. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:03, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Transformers: &amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
We talked a bit about adding back &amp;quot;Transformers: &amp;quot; to the titles of articles [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/Archive51#When_to_omit_.22Transformers.22_from_an_article_title|previously]], and the general sentiment was that people were for it or didn&#039;t have an issue with it. Does anybody else have any input in this matter? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:34, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;m okay with this change, but I do have three questions on execution. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;1.) Whether or not &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; is followed by a colon seems random in our current system. How will that be handled? &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;2.) If &amp;quot;Transformers(:)&amp;quot; is going to be added to every relevant page name, then what about all the extra words in the titles of Japanese stuff? &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;3.) What conseuqneces will this have for categories, lists, storylinks, etc? &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 04:41, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::#I think we&#039;ve had two consistent rules about that: If the title is some kind of phrase, like &amp;quot;Transformers United&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;The Transformers Collection&amp;quot;, or &amp;quot;Transformers Animated&amp;quot;, then we don&#039;t use the colon. If the title is some kind of obvious &amp;quot;title: subtitle&amp;quot; setup (&amp;quot;Transformers: Armada&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Transformers: Prime&amp;quot;), then we use the colon. There&#039;s some borderline examples, but I think we can figure them out one by one. Official sources will help with determining colon-status. The other rule seems to apply to only games: If the title has another subtitle, then the first colon is dropped (ex. [[Transformers Prime: Terrorcon Defense]]). I dunno why, but we can add back the colon, I suppose.&lt;br /&gt;
::#I guess we add them? We could argue it for &#039;&#039;Victory&#039;&#039;, since it was released in English contexts as just &amp;quot;Transformers: Victory&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
::#I think we&#039;re just going to continue the same in relation to those. The articles will still be sorted by their subtitles in categories. Storylinks I could go either way on, but I think the trend is to drop the main title. I&#039;ve been doing that for the AAII storylinks to avoid excessively long links. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:49, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I don&#039;t see how &amp;quot;Transformers United&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Transformers Animated&amp;quot; are any different from &amp;quot;Transformers: Prime&amp;quot;. To me, all three could fall into either of your groups (phrase vs subtitle) and would prefer colons in all of those cases. Of your examples, only &amp;quot;The Transformers Collection&amp;quot; seems to really belong in the &amp;quot;phrase&amp;quot; group. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:22, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::&amp;quot;United&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Animated&amp;quot; are adjectives that modify &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; and have official sources that omit the colon. &amp;quot;Transformers Prime&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t make sense in that way. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:58, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I am not certain about those two &amp;quot;rules&amp;quot; for colons either. They&#039;re rather vague and bound to cause arguments and confusion. It needs to be made more obvious whether a colon should be used or not before &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; can be added everywhere (a help page on the matter would also be handy in the future, me thinks).&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I think that if we would put the cartoon at &#039;&#039;Transformers: Victory&#039;&#039;, that would cause confusion with the manga, storypages, toyline and franchises, none of which were ever brought over and should thus not be named such. If moved, the &#039;&#039;Victory&#039;&#039; cartoon should best go to its Japanese name. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:28, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;shrug* The first rule is mostly there for Transformers Animated, which people will be resistant to moving to have a colon (plus, obvious cases like The Transformers Collection). The second rule I really don&#039;t care about and can be tossed (it mostly only concerns the movie series of video games and online games). [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Are you suggesting there that Victory articles should be moved to &amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory&amp;quot;? I&#039;d disagree with that, if so! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:25, 10 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Why? We can&#039;t go around writing out the full names of Western franchises and stuff but not do so for the Japanese stuff. We already have &amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers&amp;quot; written out for the 1985 &amp;amp; 1986 Japanese franchises, so why not &#039;&#039;Victory&#039;&#039;? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 07:30, 10 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Victory (the cartoon) has been released in the West as &amp;quot;Transformers: Victory&amp;quot;, to me that means that the official English name of the franchise &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; Transformers: Victory. Yes, we should give the full Japanese title at the beginning of the franchise page but there is no reason to move anything to that name. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:35, 10 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::That was pretty much my reasoning too (also typing out the full name every time we wanted to link to it would be tedious). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:59, 10 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Tying out &amp;quot;(franchise)&amp;quot; every time for everything is more tedious, but we still have it (for... some reason). Ditto long titles like [[The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers]] and [[Transformers Vault]]&#039;s previous ridiculously long title. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::But I guess the general principle of &amp;quot;Transformers: &amp;quot; is acceptable to most. I&#039;ll start moving the noncontroversial pages (Western comics and cartoons with definite subtitles, etc.) if there&#039;s no opposition in the next few hours. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:08, 10 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::Is there a difference between [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering]] and [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Ascending|Transformers: Beast Wars: The Ascending]]? I must admit, the comma/colon distinction seems kinda arbitrary. Also, these page names seem kind of overlong and stupid, what&#039;s wrong with [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Ascending|The Ascending]] and [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering|The Gathering]]? It&#039;s a Transformers wiki and those are Beast Wars series; prefixing everything we possibly can with &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; is only going to clog up the search box and make editing just that bit more arduous. What were the arguments in favour of this again? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 16:21, 12 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::That&#039;s the formatting used in the indicia. Your complaint about the search box is silly; did you really think typing &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; into it yielded anything useful 99% of the time?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::Like it or not, &amp;quot;Transformers: &amp;quot; is the part of the name of many things, and the hoops we have to go through to maintain this silly system of dropping it from article titles has gotten ridiculous and inconsistent. Adding &amp;quot;Transformers: &amp;quot; to article titles, on the other hand, adds &#039;&#039;clarity&#039;&#039; and avoids pointless disambiguation. &amp;quot;The Transformers: Bumblebee&amp;quot; is preferable to &amp;quot;Bumblebee (comic)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Transformers: Sector 7&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Sector 7 (comic)&amp;quot;, etc. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:44, 12 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::I get that it&#039;s useful in some cases, but it just seems like applying the rule across the board means we&#039;re overcomplicating the issue. Occam&#039;s razor has a lot going for it, and for user-friendliness I&#039;d go for brevity. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 17:11, 12 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Also on an Occam&#039;s razor tip, &amp;quot;Bumblebee (comic)&amp;quot; conveys more information in fewer characters than &amp;quot;Transformers: Bumblebee&amp;quot;. I really don&#039;t understand why the latter is preferable. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 14:06, 13 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::There&#039;s something to say for either argument, but as it is, we have proven to be unable to keep to one consistent &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot;-as-part-of-the-title policy at least since TFA. And if trying to keep &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; out of the deal doesn&#039;t work, we oughta give the alternative a chance. I don&#039;t think it necesarilly makes it harder to find anything, as the search box reacts to words even if they are not the first part of a page title. And I want to have the changes in clear perspective before I might suggest deleting a few redirects, so at least for now, searches won&#039;t be any harder and we have a consistent policy. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 14:49, 13 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I gotta say, I&#039;m hating how this is working in practice.  Article titles seem long and ugly to me.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 15:46, 13 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I feel the same, but it seems to be an necessary evil because &amp;quot;Transformers: ***&amp;quot; is a full title? duh. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:45, 13 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I fear the day someone decides to add full titles to disambiguation suffixes as well, e.g. &amp;quot;Optimus Prime (Transformers Animated)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Grindor (Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen)&amp;quot; etc.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:43, 15 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::That would be silly, and I&#039;m pretty sure most people would oppose it. Putting &amp;quot;Transformers:&amp;quot; in names is a change we&#039;d already been drifting towards for a while with, for instance, the War for Cybertron articles all doing it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:32, 15 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::On a related note, it&#039;s a pet peeve of mine when a writeup talks about a specific medium related to a franchise but links to the franchise as a whole instead, such as &amp;quot;Jetfire was released as part of wave 1 of the [[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] toyline&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;in episode 6 of the [[Energon (franchise)|Energon]] cartoon...&amp;quot;.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 17:29, 15 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Would the best solution there be something like &amp;quot;Jetfire was released as part of wave 1 of the [[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] [[Cybertron (toyline)|toyline]]&amp;quot;? --[[Special:Contributions/77.99.176.103|77.99.176.103]] 03:32, 29 September 2011 (EDT) (oops, emvee not logged in)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I think linking to the toyline page is sufficent. There&#039;s no need for an additional link to the corresponding umbrella franchise. The thought behind this is: &amp;quot;If Joe McRandom sees something that interests him and clicks a link, does he want the link to take him straight to the specific topic or to a more general overview?&amp;quot; I think link targets should always be as specific as necessary. If someone gets interested in a broader overview, he can always go one level up. After all, a link referring to G1 Optimus Prime leads to [[Optimus Prime (G1)]], not to [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)]], either. In the same fashion, toyline pages should deeplink to the specific toy entries on the respective characters&#039; pages (or even their toy pages, if applicable). Like, if Joe McRandom is on the [[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe (2008 toyline)]] page, sees a &amp;quot;Prowl&amp;quot; toy listed under &amp;quot;Deluxe Class&amp;quot; and wants to read more about that toy, he wants the &amp;quot;Prowl&amp;quot; link to take him straight to [[Prowl (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)]], not to the [[Prowl (G1)|main character page]] where he then has to scroll down to &amp;quot;toys&amp;quot;, see that G1 Prowl toys have their separate page, go &#039;&#039;there&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;then&#039;&#039; scroll down to &amp;quot;Universe (2008)&amp;quot;. (It currently links to [[Prowl (G1)/toys]], which is at least halfway there.) I will fix this wherever I see it, and implement it when doing writeups.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 08:11, 13 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Suggestion to creating templates===&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we need some kinds of templates when typing contents for convenience? For my experience in Terminator Wiki, we use templates like &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{T3}} for &#039;&#039;[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]&#039;&#039; or {{TSCC}} for &#039;&#039;[[Terminator: The Sarah Connnor Chronicles]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;. What I&#039;m suggesting is that after we make all franchise names into full title (and we don&#039;t use redirect links), it is some how trouble some when typing the title. So we can make some templates like:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{tf|Armada}} -&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Transformers: Armada]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{tf|Armada|toyline|Pokeformer}} -&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Pokeformer]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{jptf|bwn}} -&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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If there is any user who can created complex template, we could make&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{tf|armada|t}} -&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Transformers: Armada]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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parameter 1:&lt;br /&gt;
2010 = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010 (toyline)&lt;br /&gt;
thm = Transformers: The Headmasters (toyline)&lt;br /&gt;
mf = Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (toyline)&lt;br /&gt;
v = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory&lt;br /&gt;
z = Transformers: Zone&lt;br /&gt;
roc = Transformers: Return of Convoy&lt;br /&gt;
oc = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Operation Combination&lt;br /&gt;
armada = Transformers Armada&lt;br /&gt;
bwn = Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo&lt;br /&gt;
mov = Movie&lt;br /&gt;
rotf = Revenge of the Fallen&lt;br /&gt;
tfa = Transformers Animated&lt;br /&gt;
...and (blah blah)&lt;br /&gt;
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parameter 2:&lt;br /&gt;
*default* - franchise&lt;br /&gt;
t - toyline&lt;br /&gt;
ct - cartoon&lt;br /&gt;
co - comic&lt;br /&gt;
m - manga&lt;br /&gt;
f - film&lt;br /&gt;
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And, if possible:&lt;br /&gt;
if parameter 3 = s (for example), it will become short title like &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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--&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:42, 24 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It&#039;s something I&#039;ve thought about as well. Considering there are a lot of exceptions to the regular naming system (parts of franchises that are called something different or franchises that lack the (franchise) identifier on the wiki because it&#039;s not necessary to disambiguate it), I don&#039;t think a template can be coded to put a link together. A full list system like our TFtoon templates have could maybe work though. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:08, 25 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think with the number of franchises we have, it would end up being a hellishly big template and difficult to maintain for only a minor gain. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:03, 25 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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===&amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform&amp;quot; Transformers===&lt;br /&gt;
With the insertion of this phrase into the Victory page titles, should it also be inserted into the titles of The Headmasters, Super-God Masterforce, and Zone? now while the immediate answer would be &amp;quot;No&amp;quot;, there are some places that do include this text above the &amp;quot;Toransufōmā&amp;quot; text in each of these series&#039;s logos. An example of this would the [[Transformers Tapestry]] (which even includes it in the Operation combination logo as well) and the [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Columbia_Zone_DVD.jpg Columbia DVD of Zone]. Its inclusion in these places seems more than mere coincidence, so would we take this idea into consideration? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 14:33, 23 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Um, that &#039;&#039;Zone&#039;&#039; DVD does not support your assertion. All of the &#039;&#039;actual&#039;&#039; media for those series (except for the Zone manga and story pages) do not include The &amp;quot;Fight!...&amp;quot; portion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:58, 23 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Technically the whole toyline in Japan from 1985 to 1992 was called &amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers&amp;quot; (as was written on the boxes), so at least the toyline pages for the series of those years would probably need the longer title than just &amp;quot;Transformers: &#039;&#039;X&#039;&#039; (toyline)&amp;quot; --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:04, 25 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So you want to move the toyline pages to some made-up name? Pick one: 1) Merge all of the toyline pages to &amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)&amp;quot; 2) Leave the toyline pages as they are instead of stressing over naming things that technically don&#039;t exist. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:23, 25 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::How is it &amp;quot;made up&amp;quot;? &amp;quot;Tatakae! Chō Robot Seimeitai&amp;quot; means &amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform&amp;quot; and is written above the &amp;quot;Toransufōmā&amp;quot; text on the packages of the 1985-1992 Japanese toys. I&#039;m not proposing we merge all those toyline pages together, but rather something akin to the [[Transformers: Beast Wars (Japanese toyline)|Japanese Beast Wars toyline]] page, in which the individual toylines are kept separate even though they were all collectively the same-named toyline. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 17:25, 25 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::&amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: The Headmasters&amp;quot; and its ilk are the imaginary names. Those articles for imaginary toylines are fine where they are. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:53, 25 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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===&amp;quot;Movie&amp;quot;===&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s still [[Movie (franchise)]], [[Movie (toyline)]] and more. Shouldn&#039;t that be &amp;quot;Transformers (2007 franchise)&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Transformers (2007 toyline)&amp;quot;, with the current [[Transformers (2007)]] becoming &amp;quot;Transformers (2007 movie)&amp;quot;?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 20:44, 24 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Probably. I didn&#039;t move them, since I wanted to bring it up for discussion first. The film should be moved to just &amp;quot;Transformers (film)&amp;quot;, though. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 21:05, 24 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;Movie (&#039;&#039;media&#039;&#039;)&amp;quot; should be moved to &amp;quot;Transformers (2007 &#039;&#039;media&#039;&#039;)&amp;quot; while &amp;quot;Transformers (2007)&amp;quot; goes &amp;quot;Transformers (film)&amp;quot;. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:27, 24 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That push for lexical accuracy strikes me as creating more ambiguity than it resolves.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:06, 25 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jungaroo==&lt;br /&gt;
Someone made a lovely [[Jungaroo]] gobox, but there&#039;s no page for him. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:23, 6 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think he&#039;s in any applicable fiction, but his [http://home.comcast.net/~BattleBeastSD/MGCKang.html bio card is online here]. Someone will have to translate it from Japanese first though. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:25, 15 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Making the search suggestion work better ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if anyone else has this problem, but I noticed sometimes when I type something in the search box, the search suggestions below it jump around and end up on a list which doesn&#039;t quite match what I typed. I think it&#039;s something to do with the speed I&#039;m typing and the amount of time the server takes to respond to each request.&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyway, I tweaked the javascript for grabbing the suggestions from the server so it would only trigger when I stopped typing. That seems to fix the problem for me, and as a bonus it&#039;s not nagging the server on every keypress. The downside is no instant feedback when I type, but I can live without that if it fixes the other thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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If anyone else is having that problem and wants to have a go, just copy and paste the following into your [[Special:MyPage/monacobook.js|monacobook.js]] (caveat: only tested on Firefox and Chrome):&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
var ss_memory = null;&lt;br /&gt;
var ss_timeron = 0;&lt;br /&gt;
var ss_timer;&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
function DoActualSearch() {&lt;br /&gt;
    ss_timeron=0;&lt;br /&gt;
    var newdiv = document.getElementById(&amp;quot;searchsuggest&amp;quot;);&lt;br /&gt;
    if (!newdiv) {&lt;br /&gt;
        var newdiv = document.createElement(&amp;quot;div&amp;quot;);&lt;br /&gt;
        newdiv.id = &amp;quot;searchsuggest&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;
        var searchdiv = document.getElementById(&amp;quot;searchBody&amp;quot;);&lt;br /&gt;
        searchdiv.appendChild(newdiv);&lt;br /&gt;
    }&lt;br /&gt;
    var x = document.getElementById(&amp;quot;searchInput&amp;quot;).value;&lt;br /&gt;
    if (x == ss_memory) {&lt;br /&gt;
        return;&lt;br /&gt;
    }&lt;br /&gt;
    ss_memory = x;&lt;br /&gt;
    document.getElementById(&amp;quot;searchsuggest&amp;quot;).style.display = &#039;none&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
    if (x.length &amp;lt; 30 &amp;amp;&amp;amp; x.length &amp;gt; 1 &amp;amp;&amp;amp; x.value != &amp;quot;&amp;quot;) {&lt;br /&gt;
        sajax_do_call(&amp;quot;wfAjaxSearchSuggest&amp;quot;, [x], newdiv);&lt;br /&gt;
        document.getElementById(&amp;quot;searchsuggest&amp;quot;).style.display = &#039;block&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
    }&lt;br /&gt;
}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
function MySearchCall() {&lt;br /&gt;
  if(ss_timeron) {&lt;br /&gt;
    clearTimeout(ss_timer);&lt;br /&gt;
    ss_timer=setTimeout(&amp;quot;DoActualSearch();&amp;quot;,500);&lt;br /&gt;
  } else {&lt;br /&gt;
    ss_timer=setTimeout(&amp;quot;DoActualSearch();&amp;quot;,500);&lt;br /&gt;
    ss_timeron=1;&lt;br /&gt;
  }&lt;br /&gt;
}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
function myss_ajax_onload(){&lt;br /&gt;
    var x = document.getElementById(&#039;searchInput&#039;);&lt;br /&gt;
    x.onkeyup = function(){&lt;br /&gt;
        MySearchCall();&lt;br /&gt;
    };&lt;br /&gt;
}&lt;br /&gt;
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hookEvent(&amp;quot;load&amp;quot;, myss_ajax_onload);&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Unfortunately it won&#039;t fix the actual contents of the search suggestions, so you&#039;ll still get a bunch of All Hail Megatron issues when you type &amp;quot;Megatron&amp;quot;, but that requires changes on the server. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:02, 14 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hmm.  I feel like adding &amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;ORDER BY `page_counter` DESC&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt; around line 20 of &#039;&#039;suggest.php&#039;&#039; might help w/ our search results, but it&#039;s hard to say for sure given how abstracted mediawiki database calls are, someone would have ot make the change then test it.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:47, 15 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The thought I had was to do a query on article titles starting with the search term, and then if that gives back less than 8 entries, do a second search to fill the rest of the list with titles with the term anywhere in the title. The search suggest currently supports both options, but not at the same time. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:07, 15 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stuff==&lt;br /&gt;
: Firstly, our organization of information related to the junior franchises is terrible and I&#039;d love to do something about it, but I need feedback. We currently have most Japanese and American Go-Bots as separate characters, except for the Japanese Go-Bots from the 1-2-3 line. Though there are requests for a separate Chopper page. Should those pages be split or not? And if so, what about the figures that came with some of the toys. Kid-Bot clearly isn&#039;t the &amp;quot;red driver&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;blue driver&amp;quot;, but the dog and &amp;quot;Gas-Bot&amp;quot; both have fiction in only one of the two franchises, so is it worth separating them? Also, does the unpublished coloring book count as apocrypha or not, seeing as it was mostly approved? And the human characters within, do they count as cameos like Kelly in the Dreamwave comics or separate characters? And does anyone know what the Japanese name was by which the First Transformers were released? The Go-Bots fansite has an image of Dumpkun&#039;s box featuring what looks like a G1 logo, the First Transformers logo and &amp;quot;初めて トランスフォーマー&amp;quot; written on it.&lt;br /&gt;
: Secondly, many disambiguation pages still mention if there&#039;s a separate page for the toys of a character. Is this system still necessary now that we use subpages to separate such stuff under? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 17:07, 23 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I think unpublished stuff is treated as apocrypha, isn&#039;t it? The character page coverage of unreleased Dreamwave issues is in notes, for instance. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:48, 24 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::True, but we don&#039;t know if those were approved or know those weren&#039;t approved. The coloring book was approved, just not released. That makes it better comparable to Wreckers #$, which we do not consider apocrypha (though I wouldn&#039;t know if we&#039;d do that if Wreckers #5 didn&#039;t partially canonize it). [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:39, 1 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Just weighing in on the toy page issue: I find it useful to have these called out on the disambig pages. Being able to go directly from the disambig page to the toy page of a character saves me at least one click (if I see the suite box in time) and often some scrolling (if I don&#039;t see it). However, I won&#039;t fight too hard on this if consensus is for the removal of this feature. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 07:47, 26 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Thinking some more about the Go-Bots stuff, as the Japanese version of Gas-Bot has no fiction, it probably doesn&#039;t need its own page - either link to Gas-Bot&#039;s page or just leave it unlinked in the appropriate toy sections. Same with the US version of the dog. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:30, 24 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Facebook. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;http://www.facebook.com/pages/TFwikinet/191252494230187&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; us?  Because it&#039;s the #1 link when you search for &amp;quot;TFWiki Facebook,&amp;quot; and our group is nowhere to be seen. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:32, 12 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think our group is not showing up because you have to have a Facebook account to see it? When I go to the group&#039;s URL, I just get a page prompting me to log in to Facebook. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:47, 12 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The link is this one: [http://www.facebook.com/groups/28226443881/ http://www.facebook.com/groups/28226443881/], which is the #3 on the search by &amp;quot;TFwiki site:facebook.com&amp;quot; on Google. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:51, 12 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So the other one isn&#039;t ours, and we can&#039;t put a link on it pointing it to the group.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Annoying.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 13 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It&#039;s a &amp;quot;Community page&amp;quot;, whatever that is. Clicking on the &amp;quot;Create a page&amp;quot; button on the top right of that page does bring up some sort of form which seems like it will do something. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:12, 13 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Halloween ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Presuming we&#039;re deco&#039;ing our frontpage for Halloween... does anyone have any suggestions?  Monsters, ghosts, gouls? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:09, 27 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Animated Blitzwing&#039;s random face looks sorta Jack O&#039;Lanterny and could work as a replacement for the Autobot insignia on the site logo, assuming we can find a head-on image of it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:35, 27 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving &amp;quot;(Timelines)&amp;quot; articles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m thinking that, as we don&#039;t bother with &amp;quot;(Timelines)&amp;quot; for SG, TransTech, and Animated characters, we should apply the same across the board and only use it if necessary.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Astrotrain (Timelines)]] → Astrotrain (Cybertron)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cannonball (Timelines)]] → Cannonball (G1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cop-Tur (Timelines)]] → Cop-Tur (G1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Halogen (Timelines)]] → Halogen (G1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Side Burn (Timelines)]] → Side Burn (G1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sky-Byte (Timelines)]] → Sky-Byte (G2)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Switchblade (Timelines)]] → Switchblade (BW)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Thunderblast (Timelines)]] → Thunderblast (G1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Yoketron (Timelines)]] → Yoketron (G1)&lt;br /&gt;
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The exceptions are the Descent into Evil characters, who don&#039;t really fit in any pre-existing franchise, and the Nexus Prime characters, who don&#039;t originate from a particular universe.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Buzzclaw (Timelines)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dirge (Timelines)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Flareup (Timelines)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Landquake (Timelines)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ricochet (Timelines)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heatwave (Timelines)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thoughts? Or does nobody really care that much? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:19, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Since you asked, I&#039;ll pitch 2¢ into the conversation, since I know a little bit about it. I found out the hard way that wiki &amp;quot;doesn&#039;t bother with &#039;(Timelines)&#039; for Animated.&amp;quot; And by hard way, I mean I was clobbered over the head without a hint of explanation for proposing that a Timelines-original Animated continuity character should be at &amp;quot;(Timelines).&amp;quot; But no hard feelings. I still think &amp;quot;franchise of origin&amp;quot; and not &amp;quot;continuity of origin&amp;quot; is best for disambiguations. For reasons that have been discussed previously on the subject. TransTech and SG are treated as a kind of sub-franchises of Timelines by the wiki, so I think they are an OK exception. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:00, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The prose stories are identified as &amp;quot;Transformers Timelines presents a Transformers: (franchise) story&amp;quot;. I would say that both franchises are equally valid to the stories, and the fact that non-Timelines stories (Around Cybertron, magazine comics, etc.) bleed together with Timelines stories makes the &amp;quot;(Timelines)&amp;quot; designation convoluted. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:12, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well, that&#039;s different. It sounds like you are calling their actual franchise of origin into question, not just their disambiguation. I don&#039;t have an opinion about their actual franchise of origin. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:28, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I&#039;m not denying that they&#039;re Timelines, but saying that they&#039;re better categorized under their other franchise. Like the Animated guys, it seems more instinctive to file [[Side Burn (Timelines)]] under &amp;quot;Side Burn (G1)&amp;quot; instead (not to mention that there&#039;s other Side Burn in Timelines: [[Side Burn (SG)]]).[[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:38, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m hesitating, but let me think about the ramifications.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:20, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;d be fine with this. Though, one thing I&#039;d like to propose is giving the Wings Universe characters their own disambiguation suffix. Like maybe &amp;quot;(Wings)&amp;quot; or something. I know it&#039;s a part of G1, but it&#039;s kinda like its own series within the over G1 continuity family like the Japanese G1 series are (which are also given their own suffixes such as &amp;quot;(Victory)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;(ROC)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;(BT)&amp;quot; etc.).&lt;br /&gt;
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:Though, as for the Descent into Evil characters, maybe something like &amp;quot;(DIE)&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;(Descent)&amp;quot; or even just &amp;quot;(Descent into Evil)&amp;quot;. Or, if not, keep them at &amp;quot;(Timelines)&amp;quot;. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 11:51, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I think the DIE guys are fine where they are (although you could argue moving [[Ricochet (Timelines)]] because of [[Ricochet (SG)]], but I don&#039;t really care). As for the Wings Universe guys getting their own disambiguation, eh... [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:02, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I am &#039;&#039;&#039;definitely absolutely&#039;&#039;&#039; against creating a (Wings) disambiguation when (G1) or (Timelines) work perfectly fine.  We do NOT disambiguate by continuity except by absolute necessity within a franchise.  Making up a (Wings) parenthetical just because incredibly confuses our disambiguation policy for no real reason.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:46, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::And what exactly keeps the Descent into Evil guys from being tagged G1? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:29, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Is the intermezzo period between G1 and BW considered G1 or BW?&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It&#039;s all G1 characters... and IIRC the Insecticons were supposed ot be part of Insecticon plans which had been around for ages, so the characters weren&#039;t &amp;quot;BW-era only&amp;quot; characters...&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I could support a G1 disambigif you talked me into it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:01, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::DIE fiction (Descent into Evil itself and [[Intimidation Game]]) has elements of both BW and G1; it doesn&#039;t have a certain franchise placement. Dirge (Timelines) and Ricochet (Timelines) also have namesakes firmly in G1. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:14, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::BW is both BW and G1.  And G1 has been back-incorporating BW elements since, like, 1995.  The fact DIE has G1 and BW doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s part of neither.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:25, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I think that, by the nature of Timelines, it feels more natural to parse that specific set of characters by their continuity or parent-franchise of origin. Honestly, I think the Nexus components (&#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; of them) are really the best and only candidates for the Timelines parser.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Also, I made a [http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Template:c quick template] that you guys could use here to simplify the coding for whenever you need to link a continuity-parsed name.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 15:37, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Unfortunately I don&#039;t think that template would work as well here, because our articles are not consistently named by franchise. For instance [[Lightspeed (G1 Technobot)]], [[Flattop (Autobot)]] and [[Impactor]] are all (G1) characters but don&#039;t use (G1) in their title, so the template wouldn&#039;t work for linking to them. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:05, 2 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think that Timelines is a pretty clunky franchise for the purposes of this wiki, in that it covers multiple continuities.  I think the proposal on the table makes sense.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:31, 3 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Two spaces after a period in a sentence ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve noticed this for a while on the Wiki. In practice, it makes no difference as the software displays one space the same way it displays one. However, I&#039;ve been wondering why people do it. Now I &#039;&#039;&#039;know: They&#039;&#039;&#039; were taught so in school. &#039;&#039;&#039;By teachers who were taught on friggin&#039; &#039;&#039;typewriters&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&#039; So the &amp;quot;two spaces after a period&amp;quot; rule is a leftover from the typewriter days, where it was a necessity, but it&#039;s completely obsolete on computers. [http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html Source]--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 07:16, 4 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The sentence spacing rules were, in fact, developed by typographers, but were not phased out via the magical introduction of the personal computer.  The em-space rule exists for monospaced fonts, which were still fairly common for a great number of printers through the mid-1980s.  If you would like to begin a tyrannical series of grammar-based wiki edits, I would begin by avoiding the use of prepositions at the start of sentences.  I would also advise some respect for the proper use of colons and semi-colons, as typographical errors should not take priority over proper word selection and punctuation.  Cheers!  --[[User:McFly|McFly]] 14:20, 7 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Are you referring to sentences beginning with prepositional phrases for the sake of emphasis (also known as an introductory modifiers)? That&#039;s totally valid. Or do you mean idiocies such as relative clauses that are separated from the preceding main clause by a period instead of a comma? The most glaring typographic blunders I encounter on the wiki typically go hand in hand with awkwardly worded sentences and clunky terminology, so I&#039;m inclined to assume the same person(s) is/are responsible for all of those.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 20:14, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I have bolded an example.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:14, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Aw, you altered your post.  No fair!  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:16, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::What&#039;d I alter? I just moved it up. Anyway... I&#039;d call that one &amp;quot;deliberate departure from proper grammar for the sake of dramatic emphasis&amp;quot;. It&#039;s about as improper as using a period after &#039;&#039;every. Single. Word.&#039;&#039; If it&#039;s obvious from the context that it&#039;s done for emphasis, I&#039;d call it acceptable as long as it&#039;s not used inflationary. I&#039;m sure we have a few cases of &amp;quot;We know it&#039;s not proper grammar, but we want to stress a point here&amp;quot; on the wiki. (How did the saying go again? &amp;quot;Know the rules first before you break them&amp;quot;?)--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 20:28, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:....or you can just set the bot to convert &amp;quot;  &amp;quot; to &amp;quot; &amp;quot;. Since we don&#039;t output monospace font, or anything.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 15:22, 7 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Over the whole wiki, those extra spaces account for maybe 20kb of data, which I don&#039;t think is worth worrying about. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:21, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Typed text is typed text, and the double-space after a period is still correct.  Shall we next be told that we&#039;re &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot; for not having the wiki use the metric system, or for writing down dates with the month before the day instead of after it?  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 23:31, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Oh, and I bolded something too.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 23:36, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Due to habit, I&#039;m gonna double-space until I die.  I really don&#039;t think that needs to be considered a problem.  Is that really a problem?  An extra millimeter between sentences?  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:51, 8 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Nevermore &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; right about it being mostly obsolete, but for purely technical reasons: All double (triple, etc.) spaces are collapsed down to one for display in HTML. If you want the extra spaces to actually be viewable as extra blank space, you have to use &amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;amp;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;nbsp;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;. So if you double-space here on the wiki, it only shows up when you edit the page. For whatever that&#039;s worth. (Not really taking sides, just presenting the info.) --[[Special:Contributions/67.252.49.31|67.252.49.31]] 06:08, 9 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== More on the search box/&amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; everything ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Typing &amp;quot;Energon&amp;quot; into the search box does not give me [[Energon (franchise)]], [[Energon (cartoon)]] or [[Energon (toyline)]] as top results. Same for &amp;quot;Cybertron&amp;quot;. I assume this has to do with the recent &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; prefixing for article titles. However, typing &amp;quot;Animated&amp;quot; into the seach box &#039;&#039;does&#039;&#039; give me franchise and toyline as top results, so it should be &#039;&#039;possible&#039;&#039; despite the prefixing.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 07:36, 6 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s purely alphabetical, dude. &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; shows up before &#039;&#039;Arcee (Animated)&#039;&#039; because &amp;quot;An&amp;quot; precedes &amp;quot;Ar&amp;quot;, whereas &#039;&#039;Arcee (Energon)&#039;&#039; comes up before &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; because &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; precedes &amp;quot;E&amp;quot;. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 08:13, 6 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::There&#039;s an option in the search suggest tool to limit the results to stuff starting with the search query rather than with stuff with the term anywhere in their titles, however it&#039;s not something that can be configured through MediaWiki. There&#039;s a bit of discussion about it in the &amp;quot;Making the search suggestion work better&amp;quot; section up above. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:36, 6 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If we wanted to do &#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039;, when we shouldn&#039;t have prefixed &amp;quot;Transformers:&amp;quot; before hundreds of articles 3 weeks ago. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:06, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::We still have the titles without &amp;quot;Transformers: &amp;quot; as redirects though, so they&#039;ll still show up. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:23, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Spam-dalism ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is that the neologism for it? Anyway, somehow the ReCaptcha is failing to stop the automated spam, and I&#039;m guessing the IP&#039;s are all very different.&lt;br /&gt;
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How old are the accounts when they do this? If they&#039;re fairly new, would it be possible to simply block IPs and new accounts from inserting new external links? If not (or if that&#039;s unworkable), would it be possible to flag such edits for review the way that wikipedia does to edits on contested pages?&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, is there any chance these are at least coming from the same proxy? The fact that they&#039;re getting past ReCaptcha makes it seem like these are actual people doing this, unless ReCaptcha only activates on certain namespaces.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 14:25, 18 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was using captcha with images on my phpBB installation on another site (Doctor Who related) until yesterday and getting a half dozen spammers a day signing up in despite of it. Yesterday I switched to a Question Answer challenge which asks the person registering to name the main character&#039;s time machine, and so far it has stopped the spammers dead.&lt;br /&gt;
:MediaWiki has [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QuestyCaptcha QuestyCaptcha] which looks like it works in exactly the same way, and works with the ConfirmEdit extension we already have installed. If we can get that installed and set up, it might be more effective than the image-based system we use now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:39, 18 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::What would the questions be? It can&#039;t be too obvious or too obscure. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:31, 18 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Not necessarily. The question I&#039;m using on my Doctor Who site is obvious if you have any knowledge at all of the source material, but it seems to be working. We can always start with something easy and see how we go. Most likely all of the spammers are using bots anyway. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:49, 18 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::&amp;quot;What is the name of the red-and-blue semi Autobot?&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;What&#039;s the name of the blue casette player Decepticon?&amp;quot;, or &amp;quot;What is the name of the yellow semi Micromaster Autobot with a hydraulic crane?&amp;quot;[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 17:50, 18 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: &amp;quot;What is the fandom&#039;s usual reaction when a new franchise is announced?&amp;quot; :p [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:56, 18 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;If Dick has two apples and Jane has two apples, how many apples do they have?  (3 letters.)&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:09, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, but then it would be so easy for users to use only three exclamation marks, and forget the requisite four exclamation marks and a 1.&lt;br /&gt;
::No but yeah, a question helps a lot. Might even be worth doing for all IP edits and new accounts, not just those with external links.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 15:57, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::While we&#039;re on the subject, is it somehow possible to flag certain terms or words used by IP editors and auto-block them? *coughcoughobamacoughcough*[[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 16:31, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::...but we have an article on [[Barry Obama]].&lt;br /&gt;
:::Are you trying to whitewash the wiki? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:13, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: It was just an academic question; after all, I&#039;m sure that you&#039;ve noticed our considerable problem with a certain IP editor lately.  [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:19, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Well yes... but I couldn&#039;t resist. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:43, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It&#039;s getting to the point where I&#039;m thinking a temp ban on the whole ISP might get better results. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:51, 19 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::sooo...who would you need to talk to about getting this set up, and what exactly do you want to restrict?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 19:45, 21 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::The guy whose IP addresses are always located in England who keeps vandalizing articles with Obama-related nonsense. Doesn&#039;t look like even banning IP ranges stops him. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:01, 22 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::...so, there&#039;s no way to stop this lunatic? [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 11:09, 22 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Options, in order of severity:&lt;br /&gt;
#Block all new uses of the word &amp;quot;Obama&amp;quot; to all anonymous editors.&lt;br /&gt;
#Block anonymous editors entirely.&lt;br /&gt;
#Destroy Obama!.&lt;br /&gt;
:But really, that&#039;s a separate issue with probably a separate solution, since the guy is a some kind of being. To deal with the spamdalism, I think you guys should add a &amp;quot;name that Transformer-mon!&amp;quot; question, which should cut down heavily on automated edits, and if they still get through, look at blocking all uses of external links for anonymous or new editors. The use of the question for all IP edits is fairly standard, so it should be easy to implement, and you can look into harsher measures if the bots still make it through. However, I really think you guys should make an effort to get this setup, because the conversation keeps kind of drifting down and the vandalism keeps happening.[[Special:Contributions/98.223.102.157|98.223.102.157]] 02:29, 23 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But that means well be blocking that word like it&#039;s offensive? [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 03:49, 23 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::And it will be punishing a lot of innocent people in the UK.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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{{disambig2|the worst episode of Transformers ever|the titular character of the worst episode ever|B.O.T. (robot)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{episode&lt;br /&gt;
|series=G1toon&lt;br /&gt;
|ep=65&lt;br /&gt;
|next=The Transformers: The Movie&lt;br /&gt;
|series2=SRLFtoon&lt;br /&gt;
|ep2=59&lt;br /&gt;
|prev2=Neverending Struggle&lt;br /&gt;
|next2=War Dawn&lt;br /&gt;
|series3=&#039;&#039;[[Generation 2 (cartoon)|The Transformers: Generation 2]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|ep3=44&lt;br /&gt;
|prev3=The Ultimate Doom, Part 3&lt;br /&gt;
|next3=Aerial Assault&lt;br /&gt;
|image=B.O.T.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|caption=Smarter than a race of multimillion-year-old robots. &#039;&#039;Using Brawl&#039;s brain.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;B.O.T.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|production code=#700-64&lt;br /&gt;
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[January 9]], 1986&lt;br /&gt;
|written by=[[Earl Kress]]&lt;br /&gt;
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;After Swindle sells the components of his fellow Combaticons, three kids get their hands on Brawl&#039;s brain, using it to make a robot.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Or... as most fans say it....&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Worst. Episode. Ever.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BOT-Road.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Here we come…drivin&#039; down the street…]]&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] enter an unidentifed city for no discernible reason, then all transform to vehicle mode for no discernible reason. While transforming, [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] knocks over [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] for no discernible reason. Brawl expresses his displeasure for an obvious reason. They then drive (yes, even [[Vortex (G1)|the]] [[Blast Off (G1)|flyers]] &#039;&#039;drive&#039;&#039;) about ten feet down the street and form [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] for no discernible reason. He is immediately destroyed with a single shot by [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] (who&#039;s there for no discernible reason). Defensor just leaves the pile of parts alone and unsupervised, apparently not bothering to alert the other [[Autobot]]s or anything. This enables Swindle—who has somehow survived &#039;&#039;without a scratch&#039;&#039; the explosion that reduced all the other Combaticons to a pile of parts—to gather up the bits. No human authorities are involved either.&lt;br /&gt;
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Swindle then visits the generically evil foreign guy &amp;quot;[[El Presidente]]&amp;quot; on his ship filled with weapons in order to buy parts to repair the Combaticons.&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] is running a simulation of his new [[orbit disruptor cannon]]. After [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] whines, Megatron explains that once the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]] is knocked from orbit, they will use [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]]&#039;s new device to control the tides. They will then use this colossal power to flood a single canyon, creating &amp;quot;a limitless source of power&amp;quot;. What?&lt;br /&gt;
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At the [[Combaticons&#039; headquarters]], El Presidente&#039;s men load up the weapons and more advanced computer systems from the wrecked robots, as apparently Swindle forgot about that whole &amp;quot;repair&amp;quot; thing. Swindle then leaves to take the remaining parts to a dump. Shortly after they all leave, [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] arrives, noting no one seems to be home. He discovers a piece of one of the Combaticons, then notices there&#039;s a trail of them. Confused, he asks Megatron what to do.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BOT-Luigi.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Giant turtles out to get him, creepy crabs are right behind.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Swindle arrives in a junkyard, where he threatens a junkyard worker before he starts to dump the leftovers. Starscream and Skywarp discover him in the act and capture him as he tries to escape. Back at the [[Decepticon Headquarters (G1 Earth)|Decepticon base]], Soundwave installs a bomb in Swindle&#039;s head; he has 15 hours to reassemble the Combaticons before it goes off. Swindle takes the parts back from various mid-&#039;80s evil foreign stereotypes and reassembles the team. However, they are unable to combine into Bruticus because Brawl&#039;s [[personality component]] is missing. Swindle is charged with getting the component back or the bomb will still go off.&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, at [[Benjamin Franklin Pierce High School]], [[Robbins|Mr. Robbins]]&#039;s demonstration of a laser is sabotaged by two sociopathic students, [[Martin and Roland]], who boost the laser&#039;s power output so high it instantly burns a hole through steel. Rather than involve the authorities, Mr. Robbins threatens them with an &amp;quot;F&amp;quot; in his class if they don&#039;t win a blue ribbon at the science fair, and assigns [[Elise Presser]] to assist them for no discernible reason.&lt;br /&gt;
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Outside, the two assholes meet the meek and spineless Elise. They realize a high-rise is on fire across the street, and witness the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] coming to the rescue (well, four of them; [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] appears to blow two window-washers off their rig with the wind from his rotors—the bastard). This inspires them to build a robot for their project. The three rummage for parts in the same junkyard where Swindle dumped the Combaticons&#039; leftover remains, and Elise discovers a random piece of machinery. They spend the night in the school&#039;s lab assembling their machine, and Martin dubs it &amp;quot;[[B.O.T. (robot)|B.O.T.]]&amp;quot;. After several failures, Elise installs the random piece of machinery, which turns out to be Brawl&#039;s personality component. Naturally, Brawl-B.O.T. goes postal and starts trashing the place.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BOT-CompRoom.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Unbeknownst to all, the school was secretly funded by a hideously gargantuan Richie Rich.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Martin grabs the laser and fires, and B.O.T. runs off. The kids run to the school&#039;s preposterously-advanced computer lab, and use it to call the Protectobots. [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]] gets the SOS, and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] sends [[Gears (G1)|Gears]], [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] to investigate.&lt;br /&gt;
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Swindle re-threatens the junkyard worker, who says that maybe some kids took the part Swindle is after. Swindle mutters &amp;quot;you better hope so&amp;quot;… then proceeds to rummage through the trash, seemingly instantly forgetting that whole &amp;quot;kids&amp;quot; angle.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Autobot]]s arrive at the school. The kids seem disappointed that they didn&#039;t get the Protectobots, but quickly lead them to their runaway creation in the school&#039;s cafeteria. Brawl-B.O.T. knocks all three Autobots over with a single serving pan of corn on the cob (That high-school food, I tell ya, huh? Huh?), then deflects Gears&#039;s blaster-fire with a pot lid. Ironhide shoots molten lead at Brawl-B.O.T., but he leaps to grab a light fixture, avoiding the attack, and the now-weakened floor collapses under Ironhide. Brawl-B.O.T. runs for it, barricading the door out with remarkable speed, and heads for a seemingly abandoned building… as Swindle watches.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Autobots follow, telling the kids to stay put. They enter the building, and find that Brawl-B.O.T. has taken an elevator thirty floors up. Ironhide wedges a stick into the doors, and the trio run up the stairs. Outside, the future serial killers grow instantly impatient, and drag Elise inside the building. They remove the stick, enter the elevator and head up.&lt;br /&gt;
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A blast erupts &#039;&#039;behind&#039;&#039; the Autobots, and Ironhide orders them to shoot up. They shoot at absolutely &#039;&#039;nothing&#039;&#039;, Ironhide declares they hit whatever it was, and they run right into Swindle. Meanwhile, the elevator has stopped. Roland is lifted up so he can open the emergency hatch, and discovers B.O.T. is trying to break the elevator cables.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sadly, B.O.T. is prevented from snapping the cables by an energy blast to the back. The Autobots pick themselves up, seemingly having been soundly thrashed by Swindle all by himself. They all run outside to witness Swindle driving away. Back at Decepticon headquarters, Brawl is restored and the bomb removed, and Bruticus is formed again.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the school, Elise inspects the remnants of B.O.T. to find that the &amp;quot;funny component&amp;quot; is gone. Martin decides to hunt it down by reworking the machine that read B.O.T.&#039;s &amp;quot;brain response&amp;quot; so it can track the signal. The three drive to the ocean, and Elise rewires B.O.T.&#039;s speech synthesizer so it receives and decodes signals rather than creating them, letting them hear what Brawl hears. Megatron insists on a test-run of the cannon, and picks Autobot headquarters as the target. (Because it&#039;s in orbit, you see. Wait, no, it isn&#039;t.) The kids rush off to warn the Autobots, who send a signal to the [[Protectobots&#039; headquarters]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The Autobots apparently just sit around and wait for Megatron to set up his giant cannon, get his troops into position just outside their base, and for the Combaticons to assemble Bruticus before starting to defend themselves. Bruticus basically stumbles around until he falls apart. The Protectobots arrive and random fighting ensues. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Elisetape.jpg|right|200px|thumb|This is the light-hearted, end-of-episode comedy beat. No, seriously.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Inside the base, the kids think they need to help, and Elise has a rare moment of spine. Using Teletraan I, she sends B.O.T. out into the battlefield on a beeline to the disruptor cannon. The Protectobots combine into Defensor and generate a force field, protecting about four other Autobots. The Decepticons wait until the force field wears off, then one shot blasts Defensor to pieces. Bruticus re-forms and tries to fire the cannon, but it turns and blasts Starscream and Soundwave instead. B.O.T. is working the cannon using a conveniently-placed control panel at the base, and causes it to explode by hitting the clearly-marked &amp;quot;overload&amp;quot; button, sending Bruticus flying away and forcing a Decepticon retreat.&lt;br /&gt;
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Back inside, the Autobots thank the kids for their help and offer their apologies for the loss of their robot. Elise asks if they have any spare parts so they can try again… and Roland and Martin duct-tape her mouth shut and drag her away while the Autobots just watch… &#039;&#039;argh argh argh&#039;&#039;…&lt;br /&gt;
{{--}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] (18)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] (19)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] (20)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] (21)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]] (22)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] (24)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] (25)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] (26)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] (27)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] (28)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] (29)&lt;br /&gt;
|c2=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] (3)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] (4)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] (9)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (10)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] (11)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] (12)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] (13)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] (30)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] (31)&lt;br /&gt;
|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[El Presidente]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Robbins]] (14)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Martin and Roland|Roland]] (15)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Martin and Roland|Martin]] (16)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Elise Presser]] (17)&lt;br /&gt;
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|c4=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[B.O.T. (robot)|B.O.T.]] (23)&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Call sanitation. There&#039;s junk all over the street!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Defensor&#039;&#039;&#039;, leaving his mess for the humans to clean up. He&#039;s humanity&#039;s defender, not their maid.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Megatron, I-I-I couldn&#039;t find Brawl&#039;s personality component! I didn&#039;t think it would &#039;&#039;matter&#039;&#039;…&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Swindle&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;s high opinion of his teammate.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Here, munch a little lead!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Ironhide&#039;&#039;&#039; just before spraying oil (Or possibly acid, as it makes Ironhide fall through the floor. I don&#039;t know, whatever it was, it wasn&#039;t lead) at B.O.T.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;This is so degrading.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Gears&#039;&#039;&#039; on being beaten by Brawl-B.O.T. Or he was talking about the episode itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;We should&#039;ve just taken the &#039;F&#039; in Science.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Martin&#039;&#039;&#039;, not knowing that if they did, we probably would have been spared this horrendous episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;If you ever pull a stunt like that again, I&#039;ll melt you down for scrap [[tutonium]]!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; threatens Swindle with gibberish&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|The episode &amp;quot;B.O.T.&amp;quot; was one I always remembered from when I was young. But the thing is, I had just remembered the story focusing on Swindle selling off the other Combaticons, and I had totally mentally blocked out the whole school science project part of the story! Wow was I disappointed when I went back and watched that one!|[[Derrick J. Wyatt]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/interviews-27/derrick-wyatt-interview-166415/ &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; Art Director Derrick Wyatt interview at TFW2005.com]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animation or technical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* Argh.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The scenery in this episode is always &#039;&#039;huge&#039;&#039;. In the opening scene, the five Combaticons are driving down a downtown street in a row (yes, &#039;&#039;even the fliers are driving on the ground&#039;&#039;) with plenty of room. Humans are drawn tiny compared to the doors of their own buildings, and the Autobots fit easily inside human structures.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Bruticus scrap pile changes between shots; first it&#039;s a few scattered parts on the street, then it&#039;s a solid pile of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Swindle pops out of the junk pile from beneath a yellow rectangle with wheels. The only yellow component on Bruticus is… Swindle.&lt;br /&gt;
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* As Swindle drives past the guy with the radio on the docks, he&#039;s layered too far to the left and appears to be hovering above the road. &lt;br /&gt;
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* There is no indication as to what jet-mode Starscream uses to capture jeep-mode Swindle.&lt;br /&gt;
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* When Elise says &amp;quot;Maybe I wired the box in wrong.&amp;quot; one of her legs is drawn way too short, almost as if she&#039;s missing her right thigh.&lt;br /&gt;
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* When Mr. Robbins turned on the laser, it shot a continuous beam. When Martin uses it on B.O.T., it fires bolts.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The first two times we see the Ark, it has two engines rather than three.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The &amp;quot;SOS&amp;quot; Gears receives is written in numbers rather than letters and isn&#039;t aligned to match the angle of Teletraan I&#039;s screen. Also, Gears is sitting in a human-looking chair we&#039;ve never seen before.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The kids create and lose B.O.T. in the middle of the night. When the Autobots reach the school, it&#039;s bright and sunny outside. If this &#039;&#039;isn&#039;t&#039;&#039; an animation error, then we are forced to assume that Brawl-B.O.T. spent several hours not doing much at all, staying inside the school the whole time, while the kids waited for the Autobots to arrive.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ironhide towers over the door to the kitchen, yet he fits inside a moment later. Three Autobots fit in the stairwell of the condemned building. &lt;br /&gt;
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* As he delivers the line, &amp;quot;Well if that don&#039;t fry my circuits,&amp;quot; Ironhide&#039;s left shoulder is missing.&lt;br /&gt;
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* As everyone runs out of the kitchen, Ironhide clips through the door frame.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The first shot of the front of the school shows it with two arches, but when the group chases after B.O.T., it&#039;s one big rectangular opening.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The elevator in the condemned building has two rows of lights above it, but in the close-ups there&#039;s only one row (with 12 lights, far fewer than the thirty needed for the number of floors Bumblebee says are in the building).&lt;br /&gt;
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* The &amp;quot;shooting at nothing upstairs&amp;quot; bit might be attributed to animation/script mismatch. The animation puts the Autobots in a circular staircase so they are plainly shooting at the clearly-lit curved wall directly ahead of them. It&#039;s &#039;&#039;possible&#039;&#039; the writer intended them to be shooting up a straight staircase into darkness… but that&#039;s pure conjecture.&lt;br /&gt;
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* During a close-up, Elise&#039;s red VW Beetle becomes Swindle-colored (including a purple hood!), then changes back and remains red through the rest of the scene.&lt;br /&gt;
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* When the Protectobots receive the signal, the lit-up part appears off to the side of the rest of the display.&lt;br /&gt;
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* When the Protectobots leave their base, Blades is drawn huge compared to his teammates.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Optimus and the Autobots attack from a cliff, but a few seconds later Optimus is standing in front of the Ark.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Wheeljack&#039;s [[gyro-inhibitor shell|gyro-inhibitor]] appears to fire out of his left ear.&lt;br /&gt;
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* A wall appears behind Megatron and Soundwave as they face down Hot Spot in the middle of the desert.&lt;br /&gt;
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* As Megatron transforms into gun mode, his shoulder rest appears and disappears.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Hot Spot&#039;s guns use the Decepticon laser sound effect.&lt;br /&gt;
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* When the Combaticons combine during the final battle, Vortex and Blast Off are [[Scramble City (toyline)|switched]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* As the Protectobots transform to Defensor, a huge wave of energy is shown (for no real reason).&lt;br /&gt;
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* As Megatron orders Bruticus to fire the disruptor, his waist controls are colored in reverse (blue on the left and red on the right). This is corrected a few seconds later.&lt;br /&gt;
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* As B.O.T. gains control of disruptor, Megatron is far to the right of the other Decepticons, but a few shots later Soundwave and Ramjet are right behind him.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continuity errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Argh&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Why didn&#039;t the Combaticons just combine into Bruticus during the opening scenes, rather than driving, transforming, transforming back to vehicles, driving &#039;&#039;&#039;again&#039;&#039;&#039;, transforming, and &#039;&#039;then&#039;&#039; combining?&lt;br /&gt;
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* Swindle goes to El Presidente to &#039;&#039;buy&#039;&#039; parts to repair the other Combaticons. The next time we see them, he&#039;s &#039;&#039;sold&#039;&#039; the Combaticon parts— for &#039;&#039;what&#039;&#039;, we don&#039;t know. There is no explanation as to why he suddenly completely changed his plan.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Gears describes the high school as a &amp;quot;one-level structure&amp;quot;, but it&#039;s pretty clearly two stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The kids don&#039;t seem to recognize what Transformers are, but by this point in the series, they&#039;re internationally recognized, there are holidays and tributes to them, etc. Despite this, they seem to instantly accept the existence of Transformers.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Autobots seem to initially not understand what a high school is.. This is in spite of the fact that they have been on Earth for a couple of years now and are friends with 3 school-aged humans, at least two of which (Carly and Chip) we &#039;&#039;know&#039;&#039; have a formal education.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Other errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Argh&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Defensor watches Swindle struggle out of the wreckage... but nonchalantly walks away and does nothing about it, for some reason.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Megatron&#039;s plan seems… severely overwrought. Build a giant cannon to knock the Moon out of orbit, build a device to control the tides in the Moon&#039;s absence, and use all that power to flood a canyon that contains a hydroelectric generator that they &#039;&#039;also&#039;&#039; built. Considering that in &amp;quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2]]&amp;quot; all they needed was the already-made Sherman Dam and [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] shaking up a river…&lt;br /&gt;
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* Why does Megatron put a bomb in Swindle&#039;s head? If it goes off, he loses Bruticus for good.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Why does Megatron have &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; Swindle go looking for the lost personality component? Why risk permanently losing Bruticus that way?&lt;br /&gt;
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* How did Swindle know &#039;&#039;exactly&#039;&#039; where to find each and every Combaticon component across the globe once he sold them to &#039;&#039;El Presidente&#039;&#039;?&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fifteen hours seems like an impossibly tight deadline to track down dozens or hundreds of parts scattered &#039;&#039;all over the world&#039;&#039;, retrieve them, reassemble them into complex high-tech robots, AND still have time left over to track down Brawl-B.O.T.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Why did the Combaticons suddenly have to form a robot-pyramid to become Bruticus, when earlier and later in the episode they just floated up to their correct spots, like usual?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Combaticon pyramid.jpg|right|225px|thumb|The Combaticons unveil their new routine as the Polyhex Cowbots cheerleaders.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* The teens completely fail to notice a hundred-story building that is almost completely engulfed in flames and surrounded by emergency vehicles until they hear somebody fifty stories up call for help.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Groove claims to use liquid nitrogen to put out the fire. Liquid nitrogen evaporates at -198 °C (-320 °F), so it would completely boil away the second it gets near the flames.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[wikipedia:Liquid nitrogen|Liquid nitrogen at Wikipedia]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On top of that, liquid nitrogen is not pink.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Streetwise catches the two falling window-washers with his &#039;&#039;metal&#039;&#039; arms after they&#039;ve fallen about fifty stories, and somehow they&#039;re not splattered all over him.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Three high school kids can build a robot out of junk bits and Brawl&#039;s brain that is &#039;&#039;stronger&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;smarter&#039;&#039; than the Autobots. (The latter would be a little more believable if it weren&#039;t for the &amp;quot;Brawl&#039;s brain&amp;quot; part.)&lt;br /&gt;
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* When B.O.T. is first activated, Elise is forcefully flung off the ladder by its arm. Somehow, she lands with only a soft thud and no real injuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The high school&#039;s computer is astounding. It is exceedingly and hugely sci-fi in design, plus, how the kids were able to use it to send an SOS to the Autobots over the phone is… [[magic]] or something.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Autobots are weaker than kitchenware: Gears carries a blaster that was made to injure or kill alien beings made entirely of metal, but it can&#039;t shoot through a pot lid.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Similarly, B.O.T. somehow knocks over Gears, Ironhide and Bumblebee with a tray full of corn!&lt;br /&gt;
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* Benjamin Franklin Pierce High School packs its hallways with some seriously heavy furniture.&lt;br /&gt;
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* There is a fully functional elevator within a seemingly condemned building. Speaking of which, a condemned building next to a high school seems like &#039;&#039;trouble&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* How did Swindle get above the Autobots on the way up? And how&#039;d he get past them on the way down again?&lt;br /&gt;
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* The speech synthesizer is &amp;quot;rewired&amp;quot; so that instead of &amp;quot;synthesizing and transmitting,&amp;quot; it &amp;quot;receives and decrypts&amp;quot;. And this somehow lets the kids listen in on a conversation being held in the Decepticon base… yeah, when this can almost be considered one of the episode&#039;s &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; plausible elements, something is very, very &#039;&#039;wrong&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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*During the final battle Hot Spot shoots Soundwave and Megatron knocking the two backwards into Brawl (who is behind them). In the next shot Megatron lands nearby and &#039;&#039;Brawl&#039;&#039;, who was behind Megatron, comes flying from in front of Megatron and falls on him. It&#039;s as if Brawl got hit by Megatron and Soundwave then teleported in front of them and got hit again.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BOT-Overload.jpg|right|225px|thumb|&amp;quot;I assure you, there is zero chance of this coming back to bite us!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* It&#039;s never really specified why Megatron specifically needs Bruticus to fire the cannon. If it&#039;s a size thing, he also has [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]. Likewise, it isn&#039;t specified why Optimus Prime thinks Defensor is the only one who can face Bruticus, when he has the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] and [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] (for sheer size) and even [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] (as a rival combiner) to do the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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*But to handle the controls of the cannon, the size thing is debatable because the cannon has a human-level control panel on it. Oy.&lt;br /&gt;
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* On that note, the human-level control panel has a great big button clearly marked &amp;quot;Over Load&amp;quot; in English. Why did he install that? &lt;br /&gt;
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* No, really, why?&lt;br /&gt;
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* Bruticus didn&#039;t notice B.O.T. fiddling with the controls?&lt;br /&gt;
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* Apparently Roland and Martin carry duct tape around with them. Here, they use it to tape a girl&#039;s mouth shut. Who knows what they use it for the rest of the time!&lt;br /&gt;
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* This episode was made.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Benjamin Franklin Pierce High School&amp;quot; is a reference to [[wikipedia:Hawkeye Pierce|Benjamin Franklin &amp;quot;Hawkeye&amp;quot; Pierce]], the character from &#039;&#039;[[wikipedia:M*A*S*H*|M*A*S*H*]]&#039;&#039; (who was also the inspiration for the [[Mini-Con]] [[Hawkeye]]&#039;s bio).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continuity notes===&lt;br /&gt;
*  Production-wise, it seems a bit odd to have three Season One Autobots respond to the kids&#039; SOS, rather than showcasing the brand-new combiner team who would otherwise seem to be the spotlight buy-my-toy characters of the episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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* This episode establishes that the Combaticons have their own separate base. As this was the last episode before the jump to 2005, this is never touched on again.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Starscream says to Megatron &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Your&#039;&#039; stupid warrior&amp;quot; in reference to Bruticus, but Starscream was the one who made him.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign dubbing===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Japanese&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Bruticus no Fukkatsu&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (ブルーティカスの復活, &amp;quot;The Revival of Bruticus&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Italian&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Giovani inventori&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;Young Inventors&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
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:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;B.O.T.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;Argh&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BOT-ModelReuse.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Me an&#039; my friends are Jem girls, especially Jimmy &amp;quot;The Legbreaker&amp;quot; Cianciulli!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Mr. Robbins&#039;s class is made up of a &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; odd collection of students. The &#039;&#039;least&#039;&#039; odd are the two women who are just recolored character models from &#039;&#039;[[Jem]]&#039;&#039;, [[Hasbro]]&#039;s then-current cartoon-advertised foray into girls&#039; fashion dolls. Towards the back, however, appear to be [[Auto-Bop|thugs in business suits.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* The class, by the way, lasts for about two minutes before the bell rings.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The classroom itself appears to be &#039;&#039;huge&#039;&#039; in the initial shot. And why don&#039;t the desks have table tops? Only one girl is taking notes, holding a bunch of paper in her lap. There&#039;s no backpacks to be seen. And as Roland and Martin walk out, there&#039;s only an arch in front of them (with no actual &#039;&#039;doors&#039;&#039; attached to it!).&lt;br /&gt;
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* This episode introduces the most loathsome &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; characters ever, Roland and Martin. Boosting a laser to a level that could grievously injure or kill someone as a &#039;&#039;prank&#039;&#039;, the misogynistic duct-taping of Elise&#039;s mouth and constantly dragging her places against her will, and a general smarmy smugness level that makes Starscream seem humble.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Astrotrain appears in the simulation of the disruptor cannon knocking the Moon from orbit, but is never seen elsewhere.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The original script&#039;s cast list for the episode notes that the &amp;quot;junkyard operator&amp;quot; is a spy, and that the only other thing we learn about him is that he gets taken away by the &amp;quot;Federal Authorities&amp;quot;. Oh, and he has no lines.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Metrodome]]&#039;s Season 3 &amp;amp; 4 DVD set extras&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This bizarre plot twist obviously didn&#039;t make it into the final draft, but really, what&#039;s one more wad of nonsense at this point?&lt;br /&gt;
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* The billboard over the [[Protectobots&#039; headquarters|Protectobots&#039; urban headquarters]] seems to be advertising for [[E Cola]]. Mmmmmmm. Another advertisement for the beverage would appear years later in the Japanese series, &#039;&#039;[[Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]&#039;&#039;, in the episode &amp;quot;[[Heroism!! The Birth of Super Ginrai]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* This episode was lampooned at the [[BotCon 2006]] [[MSTF]] presentation, and as far as the writers are concerned, it is the single &#039;&#039;dumbest&#039;&#039; episode in the entirety of &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; animation.&lt;br /&gt;
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* It is also possibly the worst advertisement for the combiner teams possible. Bruticus is destroyed with &#039;&#039;a single shot&#039;&#039; from Defensor, and later stumbles around like a concussed baby as the Autobots shoot at him. Defensor&#039;s force field is rendered utterly pointless as the Decepticons just wait for it to run out (no more than 20 seconds), then he too is blasted to bits with ease.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;quot;BOT&amp;quot; apparently stands for &#039;&#039;&#039;B&#039;&#039;&#039;iotronic &#039;&#039;&#039;O&#039;&#039;&#039;perational &#039;&#039;&#039;T&#039;&#039;&#039;elecommunicator. At no point in the episode does BOT ever communicate anything remotely, nor is he biomechanical.&lt;br /&gt;
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* This was the last episode of season two. Can you imagine if this was the last episode of &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; ever?&lt;br /&gt;
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* Good God, I need a stiff drink.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What&#039;s worst is that this episode has been reusing the same movements from different scenes. One example is Bruticus&#039; transformation after Brawl&#039;s personal component was restored, that was reused and mirrored at the scene when the Autobot and Decepticons attack at the Ark.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Home video releases==&lt;br /&gt;
{{homevidnote}}&lt;br /&gt;
;Laserdisc&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1995 — &#039;&#039;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers&#039;&#039; — Megatron Set ([[TakaraTomy|Takara]]) — Japanese audio only.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1999 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — Decepticon Edition ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.&lt;br /&gt;
;DVD&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2001 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — DVD Box 2 (Pioneer LDC) — Japanese audio only.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — &#039;&#039;The Original Transformers&#039;&#039; — Season 2 Part 2 ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — &#039;&#039;The Original Transformers&#039;&#039; — Season 2 Part 2: Vol. 8 (Rhino Entertainment)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; — Season 2 Part 2 ([[Metrodome]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2004 — &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; — Collection 3: Series 2.2 ([[Madman Entertainment]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2006 — &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Italy.png|20px|Italy]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; — Volume 06: Stagione Due Parte Quarta ([[Medianetwork Communication]]) — English and Italian audio.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; — Season Two: Part Two (Metrodome)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary &amp;quot;Matrix of Leadership&amp;quot; Collection ([[Shout! Factory]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — Season Two, Volume Two: 25th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory)&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Generation 2 episodes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{disambig2|the worst episode of Transformers ever|the titular character of the worst episode ever|B.O.T. (robot)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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|ep=65&lt;br /&gt;
|next=The Transformers: The Movie&lt;br /&gt;
|series2=SRLFtoon&lt;br /&gt;
|ep2=59&lt;br /&gt;
|prev2=Neverending Struggle&lt;br /&gt;
|next2=War Dawn&lt;br /&gt;
|series3=&#039;&#039;[[Generation 2 (cartoon)|The Transformers: Generation 2]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|ep3=44&lt;br /&gt;
|prev3=The Ultimate Doom, Part 3&lt;br /&gt;
|next3=Aerial Assault&lt;br /&gt;
|image=B.O.T.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|caption=Smarter than a race of multimillion-year-old robots. &#039;&#039;Using Brawl&#039;s brain.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;B.O.T.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|production code=#700-64&lt;br /&gt;
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[January 9]], 1986&lt;br /&gt;
|written by=[[Earl Kress]]&lt;br /&gt;
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;After Swindle sells the components of his fellow Combaticons, three kids get their hands on Brawl&#039;s brain, using it to make a robot.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Or...&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Worst. Episode. Ever.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BOT-Road.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Here we come…drivin&#039; down the street…]]&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] enter an unidentifed city for no discernible reason, then all transform to vehicle mode for no discernible reason. While transforming, [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] knocks over [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] for no discernible reason. Brawl expresses his displeasure for an obvious reason. They then drive (yes, even [[Vortex (G1)|the]] [[Blast Off (G1)|flyers]] &#039;&#039;drive&#039;&#039;) about ten feet down the street and form [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] for no discernible reason. He is immediately destroyed with a single shot by [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] (who&#039;s there for no discernible reason). Defensor just leaves the pile of parts alone and unsupervised, apparently not bothering to alert the other [[Autobot]]s or anything. This enables Swindle—who has somehow survived &#039;&#039;without a scratch&#039;&#039; the explosion that reduced all the other Combaticons to a pile of parts—to gather up the bits. No human authorities are involved either.&lt;br /&gt;
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Swindle then visits the generically evil foreign guy &amp;quot;[[El Presidente]]&amp;quot; on his ship filled with weapons in order to buy parts to repair the Combaticons.&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] is running a simulation of his new [[orbit disruptor cannon]]. After [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] whines, Megatron explains that once the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]] is knocked from orbit, they will use [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]]&#039;s new device to control the tides. They will then use this colossal power to flood a single canyon, creating &amp;quot;a limitless source of power&amp;quot;. What?&lt;br /&gt;
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At the [[Combaticons&#039; headquarters]], El Presidente&#039;s men load up the weapons and more advanced computer systems from the wrecked robots, as apparently Swindle forgot about that whole &amp;quot;repair&amp;quot; thing. Swindle then leaves to take the remaining parts to a dump. Shortly after they all leave, [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] arrives, noting no one seems to be home. He discovers a piece of one of the Combaticons, then notices there&#039;s a trail of them. Confused, he asks Megatron what to do.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BOT-Luigi.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Giant turtles out to get him, creepy crabs are right behind.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Swindle arrives in a junkyard, where he threatens a junkyard worker before he starts to dump the leftovers. Starscream and Skywarp discover him in the act and capture him as he tries to escape. Back at the [[Decepticon Headquarters (G1 Earth)|Decepticon base]], Soundwave installs a bomb in Swindle&#039;s head; he has 15 hours to reassemble the Combaticons before it goes off. Swindle takes the parts back from various mid-&#039;80s evil foreign stereotypes and reassembles the team. However, they are unable to combine into Bruticus because Brawl&#039;s [[personality component]] is missing. Swindle is charged with getting the component back or the bomb will still go off.&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, at [[Benjamin Franklin Pierce High School]], [[Robbins|Mr. Robbins]]&#039;s demonstration of a laser is sabotaged by two sociopathic students, [[Martin and Roland]], who boost the laser&#039;s power output so high it instantly burns a hole through steel. Rather than involve the authorities, Mr. Robbins threatens them with an &amp;quot;F&amp;quot; in his class if they don&#039;t win a blue ribbon at the science fair, and assigns [[Elise Presser]] to assist them for no discernible reason.&lt;br /&gt;
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Outside, the two assholes meet the meek and spineless Elise. They realize a high-rise is on fire across the street, and witness the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] coming to the rescue (well, four of them; [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] appears to blow two window-washers off their rig with the wind from his rotors—the bastard). This inspires them to build a robot for their project. The three rummage for parts in the same junkyard where Swindle dumped the Combaticons&#039; leftover remains, and Elise discovers a random piece of machinery. They spend the night in the school&#039;s lab assembling their machine, and Martin dubs it &amp;quot;[[B.O.T. (robot)|B.O.T.]]&amp;quot;. After several failures, Elise installs the random piece of machinery, which turns out to be Brawl&#039;s personality component. Naturally, Brawl-B.O.T. goes postal and starts trashing the place.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BOT-CompRoom.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Unbeknownst to all, the school was secretly funded by a hideously gargantuan Richie Rich.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Martin grabs the laser and fires, and B.O.T. runs off. The kids run to the school&#039;s preposterously-advanced computer lab, and use it to call the Protectobots. [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]] gets the SOS, and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] sends [[Gears (G1)|Gears]], [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] to investigate.&lt;br /&gt;
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Swindle re-threatens the junkyard worker, who says that maybe some kids took the part Swindle is after. Swindle mutters &amp;quot;you better hope so&amp;quot;… then proceeds to rummage through the trash, seemingly instantly forgetting that whole &amp;quot;kids&amp;quot; angle.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Autobot]]s arrive at the school. The kids seem disappointed that they didn&#039;t get the Protectobots, but quickly lead them to their runaway creation in the school&#039;s cafeteria. Brawl-B.O.T. knocks all three Autobots over with a single serving pan of corn on the cob (That high-school food, I tell ya, huh? Huh?), then deflects Gears&#039;s blaster-fire with a pot lid. Ironhide shoots molten lead at Brawl-B.O.T., but he leaps to grab a light fixture, avoiding the attack, and the now-weakened floor collapses under Ironhide. Brawl-B.O.T. runs for it, barricading the door out with remarkable speed, and heads for a seemingly abandoned building… as Swindle watches.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Autobots follow, telling the kids to stay put. They enter the building, and find that Brawl-B.O.T. has taken an elevator thirty floors up. Ironhide wedges a stick into the doors, and the trio run up the stairs. Outside, the future serial killers grow instantly impatient, and drag Elise inside the building. They remove the stick, enter the elevator and head up.&lt;br /&gt;
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A blast erupts &#039;&#039;behind&#039;&#039; the Autobots, and Ironhide orders them to shoot up. They shoot at absolutely &#039;&#039;nothing&#039;&#039;, Ironhide declares they hit whatever it was, and they run right into Swindle. Meanwhile, the elevator has stopped. Roland is lifted up so he can open the emergency hatch, and discovers B.O.T. is trying to break the elevator cables.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sadly, B.O.T. is prevented from snapping the cables by an energy blast to the back. The Autobots pick themselves up, seemingly having been soundly thrashed by Swindle all by himself. They all run outside to witness Swindle driving away. Back at Decepticon headquarters, Brawl is restored and the bomb removed, and Bruticus is formed again.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the school, Elise inspects the remnants of B.O.T. to find that the &amp;quot;funny component&amp;quot; is gone. Martin decides to hunt it down by reworking the machine that read B.O.T.&#039;s &amp;quot;brain response&amp;quot; so it can track the signal. The three drive to the ocean, and Elise rewires B.O.T.&#039;s speech synthesizer so it receives and decodes signals rather than creating them, letting them hear what Brawl hears. Megatron insists on a test-run of the cannon, and picks Autobot headquarters as the target. (Because it&#039;s in orbit, you see. Wait, no, it isn&#039;t.) The kids rush off to warn the Autobots, who send a signal to the [[Protectobots&#039; headquarters]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The Autobots apparently just sit around and wait for Megatron to set up his giant cannon, get his troops into position just outside their base, and for the Combaticons to assemble Bruticus before starting to defend themselves. Bruticus basically stumbles around until he falls apart. The Protectobots arrive and random fighting ensues. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Elisetape.jpg|right|200px|thumb|This is the light-hearted, end-of-episode comedy beat. No, seriously.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Inside the base, the kids think they need to help, and Elise has a rare moment of spine. Using Teletraan I, she sends B.O.T. out into the battlefield on a beeline to the disruptor cannon. The Protectobots combine into Defensor and generate a force field, protecting about four other Autobots. The Decepticons wait until the force field wears off, then one shot blasts Defensor to pieces. Bruticus re-forms and tries to fire the cannon, but it turns and blasts Starscream and Soundwave instead. B.O.T. is working the cannon using a conveniently-placed control panel at the base, and causes it to explode by hitting the clearly-marked &amp;quot;overload&amp;quot; button, sending Bruticus flying away and forcing a Decepticon retreat.&lt;br /&gt;
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Back inside, the Autobots thank the kids for their help and offer their apologies for the loss of their robot. Elise asks if they have any spare parts so they can try again… and Roland and Martin duct-tape her mouth shut and drag her away while the Autobots just watch… &#039;&#039;argh argh argh&#039;&#039;…&lt;br /&gt;
{{--}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] (18)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] (19)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] (20)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] (21)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]] (22)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] (24)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] (25)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] (26)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] (27)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] (28)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] (29)&lt;br /&gt;
|c2=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] (3)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] (4)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] (9)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (10)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] (11)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] (12)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] (13)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] (30)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] (31)&lt;br /&gt;
|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[El Presidente]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Robbins]] (14)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Martin and Roland|Roland]] (15)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Martin and Roland|Martin]] (16)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Elise Presser]] (17)&lt;br /&gt;
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|c4=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[B.O.T. (robot)|B.O.T.]] (23)&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Call sanitation. There&#039;s junk all over the street!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Defensor&#039;&#039;&#039;, leaving his mess for the humans to clean up. He&#039;s humanity&#039;s defender, not their maid.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Megatron, I-I-I couldn&#039;t find Brawl&#039;s personality component! I didn&#039;t think it would &#039;&#039;matter&#039;&#039;…&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Swindle&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;s high opinion of his teammate.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Here, munch a little lead!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Ironhide&#039;&#039;&#039; just before spraying oil (Or possibly acid, as it makes Ironhide fall through the floor. I don&#039;t know, whatever it was, it wasn&#039;t lead) at B.O.T.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;This is so degrading.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Gears&#039;&#039;&#039; on being beaten by Brawl-B.O.T. Or he was talking about the episode itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;We should&#039;ve just taken the &#039;F&#039; in Science.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Martin&#039;&#039;&#039;, not knowing that if they did, we probably would have been spared this horrendous episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;If you ever pull a stunt like that again, I&#039;ll melt you down for scrap [[tutonium]]!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; threatens Swindle with gibberish&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|The episode &amp;quot;B.O.T.&amp;quot; was one I always remembered from when I was young. But the thing is, I had just remembered the story focusing on Swindle selling off the other Combaticons, and I had totally mentally blocked out the whole school science project part of the story! Wow was I disappointed when I went back and watched that one!|[[Derrick J. Wyatt]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/interviews-27/derrick-wyatt-interview-166415/ &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; Art Director Derrick Wyatt interview at TFW2005.com]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animation or technical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* Argh.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The scenery in this episode is always &#039;&#039;huge&#039;&#039;. In the opening scene, the five Combaticons are driving down a downtown street in a row (yes, &#039;&#039;even the fliers are driving on the ground&#039;&#039;) with plenty of room. Humans are drawn tiny compared to the doors of their own buildings, and the Autobots fit easily inside human structures.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Bruticus scrap pile changes between shots; first it&#039;s a few scattered parts on the street, then it&#039;s a solid pile of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Swindle pops out of the junk pile from beneath a yellow rectangle with wheels. The only yellow component on Bruticus is… Swindle.&lt;br /&gt;
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* As Swindle drives past the guy with the radio on the docks, he&#039;s layered too far to the left and appears to be hovering above the road. &lt;br /&gt;
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* There is no indication as to what jet-mode Starscream uses to capture jeep-mode Swindle.&lt;br /&gt;
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* When Elise says &amp;quot;Maybe I wired the box in wrong.&amp;quot; one of her legs is drawn way too short, almost as if she&#039;s missing her right thigh.&lt;br /&gt;
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* When Mr. Robbins turned on the laser, it shot a continuous beam. When Martin uses it on B.O.T., it fires bolts.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The first two times we see the Ark, it has two engines rather than three.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The &amp;quot;SOS&amp;quot; Gears receives is written in numbers rather than letters and isn&#039;t aligned to match the angle of Teletraan I&#039;s screen. Also, Gears is sitting in a human-looking chair we&#039;ve never seen before.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The kids create and lose B.O.T. in the middle of the night. When the Autobots reach the school, it&#039;s bright and sunny outside. If this &#039;&#039;isn&#039;t&#039;&#039; an animation error, then we are forced to assume that Brawl-B.O.T. spent several hours not doing much at all, staying inside the school the whole time, while the kids waited for the Autobots to arrive.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ironhide towers over the door to the kitchen, yet he fits inside a moment later. Three Autobots fit in the stairwell of the condemned building. &lt;br /&gt;
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* As he delivers the line, &amp;quot;Well if that don&#039;t fry my circuits,&amp;quot; Ironhide&#039;s left shoulder is missing.&lt;br /&gt;
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* As everyone runs out of the kitchen, Ironhide clips through the door frame.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The first shot of the front of the school shows it with two arches, but when the group chases after B.O.T., it&#039;s one big rectangular opening.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The elevator in the condemned building has two rows of lights above it, but in the close-ups there&#039;s only one row (with 12 lights, far fewer than the thirty needed for the number of floors Bumblebee says are in the building).&lt;br /&gt;
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* The &amp;quot;shooting at nothing upstairs&amp;quot; bit might be attributed to animation/script mismatch. The animation puts the Autobots in a circular staircase so they are plainly shooting at the clearly-lit curved wall directly ahead of them. It&#039;s &#039;&#039;possible&#039;&#039; the writer intended them to be shooting up a straight staircase into darkness… but that&#039;s pure conjecture.&lt;br /&gt;
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* During a close-up, Elise&#039;s red VW Beetle becomes Swindle-colored (including a purple hood!), then changes back and remains red through the rest of the scene.&lt;br /&gt;
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* When the Protectobots receive the signal, the lit-up part appears off to the side of the rest of the display.&lt;br /&gt;
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* When the Protectobots leave their base, Blades is drawn huge compared to his teammates.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Optimus and the Autobots attack from a cliff, but a few seconds later Optimus is standing in front of the Ark.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Wheeljack&#039;s [[gyro-inhibitor shell|gyro-inhibitor]] appears to fire out of his left ear.&lt;br /&gt;
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* A wall appears behind Megatron and Soundwave as they face down Hot Spot in the middle of the desert.&lt;br /&gt;
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* As Megatron transforms into gun mode, his shoulder rest appears and disappears.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Hot Spot&#039;s guns use the Decepticon laser sound effect.&lt;br /&gt;
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* When the Combaticons combine during the final battle, Vortex and Blast Off are [[Scramble City (toyline)|switched]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* As the Protectobots transform to Defensor, a huge wave of energy is shown (for no real reason).&lt;br /&gt;
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* As Megatron orders Bruticus to fire the disruptor, his waist controls are colored in reverse (blue on the left and red on the right). This is corrected a few seconds later.&lt;br /&gt;
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* As B.O.T. gains control of disruptor, Megatron is far to the right of the other Decepticons, but a few shots later Soundwave and Ramjet are right behind him.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continuity errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Argh&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Why didn&#039;t the Combaticons just combine into Bruticus during the opening scenes, rather than driving, transforming, transforming back to vehicles, driving &#039;&#039;&#039;again&#039;&#039;&#039;, transforming, and &#039;&#039;then&#039;&#039; combining?&lt;br /&gt;
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* Swindle goes to El Presidente to &#039;&#039;buy&#039;&#039; parts to repair the other Combaticons. The next time we see them, he&#039;s &#039;&#039;sold&#039;&#039; the Combaticon parts— for &#039;&#039;what&#039;&#039;, we don&#039;t know. There is no explanation as to why he suddenly completely changed his plan.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Gears describes the high school as a &amp;quot;one-level structure&amp;quot;, but it&#039;s pretty clearly two stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The kids don&#039;t seem to recognize what Transformers are, but by this point in the series, they&#039;re internationally recognized, there are holidays and tributes to them, etc. Despite this, they seem to instantly accept the existence of Transformers.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Autobots seem to initially not understand what a high school is.. This is in spite of the fact that they have been on Earth for a couple of years now and are friends with 3 school-aged humans, at least two of which (Carly and Chip) we &#039;&#039;know&#039;&#039; have a formal education.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Other errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Argh&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Defensor watches Swindle struggle out of the wreckage... but nonchalantly walks away and does nothing about it, for some reason.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Megatron&#039;s plan seems… severely overwrought. Build a giant cannon to knock the Moon out of orbit, build a device to control the tides in the Moon&#039;s absence, and use all that power to flood a canyon that contains a hydroelectric generator that they &#039;&#039;also&#039;&#039; built. Considering that in &amp;quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2]]&amp;quot; all they needed was the already-made Sherman Dam and [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] shaking up a river…&lt;br /&gt;
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* Why does Megatron put a bomb in Swindle&#039;s head? If it goes off, he loses Bruticus for good.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Why does Megatron have &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; Swindle go looking for the lost personality component? Why risk permanently losing Bruticus that way?&lt;br /&gt;
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* How did Swindle know &#039;&#039;exactly&#039;&#039; where to find each and every Combaticon component across the globe once he sold them to &#039;&#039;El Presidente&#039;&#039;?&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fifteen hours seems like an impossibly tight deadline to track down dozens or hundreds of parts scattered &#039;&#039;all over the world&#039;&#039;, retrieve them, reassemble them into complex high-tech robots, AND still have time left over to track down Brawl-B.O.T.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Why did the Combaticons suddenly have to form a robot-pyramid to become Bruticus, when earlier and later in the episode they just floated up to their correct spots, like usual?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Combaticon pyramid.jpg|right|225px|thumb|The Combaticons unveil their new routine as the Polyhex Cowbots cheerleaders.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* The teens completely fail to notice a hundred-story building that is almost completely engulfed in flames and surrounded by emergency vehicles until they hear somebody fifty stories up call for help.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Groove claims to use liquid nitrogen to put out the fire. Liquid nitrogen evaporates at -198 °C (-320 °F), so it would completely boil away the second it gets near the flames.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[wikipedia:Liquid nitrogen|Liquid nitrogen at Wikipedia]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On top of that, liquid nitrogen is not pink.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Streetwise catches the two falling window-washers with his &#039;&#039;metal&#039;&#039; arms after they&#039;ve fallen about fifty stories, and somehow they&#039;re not splattered all over him.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Three high school kids can build a robot out of junk bits and Brawl&#039;s brain that is &#039;&#039;stronger&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;smarter&#039;&#039; than the Autobots. (The latter would be a little more believable if it weren&#039;t for the &amp;quot;Brawl&#039;s brain&amp;quot; part.)&lt;br /&gt;
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* When B.O.T. is first activated, Elise is forcefully flung off the ladder by its arm. Somehow, she lands with only a soft thud and no real injuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The high school&#039;s computer is astounding. It is exceedingly and hugely sci-fi in design, plus, how the kids were able to use it to send an SOS to the Autobots over the phone is… [[magic]] or something.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Autobots are weaker than kitchenware: Gears carries a blaster that was made to injure or kill alien beings made entirely of metal, but it can&#039;t shoot through a pot lid.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Similarly, B.O.T. somehow knocks over Gears, Ironhide and Bumblebee with a tray full of corn!&lt;br /&gt;
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* Benjamin Franklin Pierce High School packs its hallways with some seriously heavy furniture.&lt;br /&gt;
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* There is a fully functional elevator within a seemingly condemned building. Speaking of which, a condemned building next to a high school seems like &#039;&#039;trouble&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* How did Swindle get above the Autobots on the way up? And how&#039;d he get past them on the way down again?&lt;br /&gt;
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* The speech synthesizer is &amp;quot;rewired&amp;quot; so that instead of &amp;quot;synthesizing and transmitting,&amp;quot; it &amp;quot;receives and decrypts&amp;quot;. And this somehow lets the kids listen in on a conversation being held in the Decepticon base… yeah, when this can almost be considered one of the episode&#039;s &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; plausible elements, something is very, very &#039;&#039;wrong&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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*During the final battle Hot Spot shoots Soundwave and Megatron knocking the two backwards into Brawl (who is behind them). In the next shot Megatron lands nearby and &#039;&#039;Brawl&#039;&#039;, who was behind Megatron, comes flying from in front of Megatron and falls on him. It&#039;s as if Brawl got hit by Megatron and Soundwave then teleported in front of them and got hit again.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BOT-Overload.jpg|right|225px|thumb|&amp;quot;I assure you, there is zero chance of this coming back to bite us!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* It&#039;s never really specified why Megatron specifically needs Bruticus to fire the cannon. If it&#039;s a size thing, he also has [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]. Likewise, it isn&#039;t specified why Optimus Prime thinks Defensor is the only one who can face Bruticus, when he has the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] and [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] (for sheer size) and even [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] (as a rival combiner) to do the same.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*But to handle the controls of the cannon, the size thing is debatable because the cannon has a human-level control panel on it. Oy.&lt;br /&gt;
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* On that note, the human-level control panel has a great big button clearly marked &amp;quot;Over Load&amp;quot; in English. Why did he install that? &lt;br /&gt;
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* No, really, why?&lt;br /&gt;
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* Bruticus didn&#039;t notice B.O.T. fiddling with the controls?&lt;br /&gt;
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* Apparently Roland and Martin carry duct tape around with them. Here, they use it to tape a girl&#039;s mouth shut. Who knows what they use it for the rest of the time!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* This episode was made.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Benjamin Franklin Pierce High School&amp;quot; is a reference to [[wikipedia:Hawkeye Pierce|Benjamin Franklin &amp;quot;Hawkeye&amp;quot; Pierce]], the character from &#039;&#039;[[wikipedia:M*A*S*H*|M*A*S*H*]]&#039;&#039; (who was also the inspiration for the [[Mini-Con]] [[Hawkeye]]&#039;s bio).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continuity notes===&lt;br /&gt;
*  Production-wise, it seems a bit odd to have three Season One Autobots respond to the kids&#039; SOS, rather than showcasing the brand-new combiner team who would otherwise seem to be the spotlight buy-my-toy characters of the episode.&lt;br /&gt;
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* This episode establishes that the Combaticons have their own separate base. As this was the last episode before the jump to 2005, this is never touched on again.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Starscream says to Megatron &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Your&#039;&#039; stupid warrior&amp;quot; in reference to Bruticus, but Starscream was the one who made him.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign dubbing===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Japanese&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Bruticus no Fukkatsu&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (ブルーティカスの復活, &amp;quot;The Revival of Bruticus&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Italian&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Giovani inventori&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;Young Inventors&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;B.O.T.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;Argh&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BOT-ModelReuse.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Me an&#039; my friends are Jem girls, especially Jimmy &amp;quot;The Legbreaker&amp;quot; Cianciulli!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Mr. Robbins&#039;s class is made up of a &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; odd collection of students. The &#039;&#039;least&#039;&#039; odd are the two women who are just recolored character models from &#039;&#039;[[Jem]]&#039;&#039;, [[Hasbro]]&#039;s then-current cartoon-advertised foray into girls&#039; fashion dolls. Towards the back, however, appear to be [[Auto-Bop|thugs in business suits.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* The class, by the way, lasts for about two minutes before the bell rings.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The classroom itself appears to be &#039;&#039;huge&#039;&#039; in the initial shot. And why don&#039;t the desks have table tops? Only one girl is taking notes, holding a bunch of paper in her lap. There&#039;s no backpacks to be seen. And as Roland and Martin walk out, there&#039;s only an arch in front of them (with no actual &#039;&#039;doors&#039;&#039; attached to it!).&lt;br /&gt;
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* This episode introduces the most loathsome &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; characters ever, Roland and Martin. Boosting a laser to a level that could grievously injure or kill someone as a &#039;&#039;prank&#039;&#039;, the misogynistic duct-taping of Elise&#039;s mouth and constantly dragging her places against her will, and a general smarmy smugness level that makes Starscream seem humble.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Astrotrain appears in the simulation of the disruptor cannon knocking the Moon from orbit, but is never seen elsewhere.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The original script&#039;s cast list for the episode notes that the &amp;quot;junkyard operator&amp;quot; is a spy, and that the only other thing we learn about him is that he gets taken away by the &amp;quot;Federal Authorities&amp;quot;. Oh, and he has no lines.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Metrodome]]&#039;s Season 3 &amp;amp; 4 DVD set extras&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This bizarre plot twist obviously didn&#039;t make it into the final draft, but really, what&#039;s one more wad of nonsense at this point?&lt;br /&gt;
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* The billboard over the [[Protectobots&#039; headquarters|Protectobots&#039; urban headquarters]] seems to be advertising for [[E Cola]]. Mmmmmmm. Another advertisement for the beverage would appear years later in the Japanese series, &#039;&#039;[[Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]&#039;&#039;, in the episode &amp;quot;[[Heroism!! The Birth of Super Ginrai]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* This episode was lampooned at the [[BotCon 2006]] [[MSTF]] presentation, and as far as the writers are concerned, it is the single &#039;&#039;dumbest&#039;&#039; episode in the entirety of &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; animation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* It is also possibly the worst advertisement for the combiner teams possible. Bruticus is destroyed with &#039;&#039;a single shot&#039;&#039; from Defensor, and later stumbles around like a concussed baby as the Autobots shoot at him. Defensor&#039;s force field is rendered utterly pointless as the Decepticons just wait for it to run out (no more than 20 seconds), then he too is blasted to bits with ease.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;quot;BOT&amp;quot; apparently stands for &#039;&#039;&#039;B&#039;&#039;&#039;iotronic &#039;&#039;&#039;O&#039;&#039;&#039;perational &#039;&#039;&#039;T&#039;&#039;&#039;elecommunicator. At no point in the episode does BOT ever communicate anything remotely, nor is he biomechanical.&lt;br /&gt;
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* This was the last episode of season two. Can you imagine if this was the last episode of &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; ever?&lt;br /&gt;
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* Good God, I need a stiff drink.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What&#039;s worst is that this episode has been reusing the same movements from different scenes. One example is Bruticus&#039; transformation after Brawl&#039;s personal component was restored, that was reused and mirrored at the scene when the Autobot and Decepticons attack at the Ark.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Home video releases==&lt;br /&gt;
{{homevidnote}}&lt;br /&gt;
;Laserdisc&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1995 — &#039;&#039;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers&#039;&#039; — Megatron Set ([[TakaraTomy|Takara]]) — Japanese audio only.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1999 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — Decepticon Edition ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.&lt;br /&gt;
;DVD&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2001 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — DVD Box 2 (Pioneer LDC) — Japanese audio only.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — &#039;&#039;The Original Transformers&#039;&#039; — Season 2 Part 2 ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — &#039;&#039;The Original Transformers&#039;&#039; — Season 2 Part 2: Vol. 8 (Rhino Entertainment)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; — Season 2 Part 2 ([[Metrodome]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2004 — &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; — Collection 3: Series 2.2 ([[Madman Entertainment]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2006 — &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Italy.png|20px|Italy]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; — Volume 06: Stagione Due Parte Quarta ([[Medianetwork Communication]]) — English and Italian audio.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; — Season Two: Part Two (Metrodome)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary &amp;quot;Matrix of Leadership&amp;quot; Collection ([[Shout! Factory]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — Season Two, Volume Two: 25th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory)&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Generation 1 episodes]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 2 episodes]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:MSTF]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>War Dawn (episode)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{episode&lt;br /&gt;
|image=WarDawn title.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|caption=&#039;&#039;Masterpiece&#039;&#039; Megatron and &#039;&#039;Smallest&#039;&#039; Optimus Prime face off.&lt;br /&gt;
|series=G1toon&lt;br /&gt;
|ep=59&lt;br /&gt;
|series2=SRLFtoon&lt;br /&gt;
|ep2=60&lt;br /&gt;
|prev2=B.O.T. (episode)&lt;br /&gt;
|next2=Masquerade&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;War Dawn&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|written by=[[David Wise]]&lt;br /&gt;
|production code=700-58&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[December 25]], 1985&lt;br /&gt;
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]&lt;br /&gt;
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Trapped in Cybertron&#039;s past, the Aerialbots learn the truth about Megatron and the rise of Optimus Prime.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese title:&#039;&#039; ひきおこされた戦争 (&#039;&#039;Hikiokosa re ta Sensō&#039;&#039;, &amp;quot;Caused War&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Italian title, dub 1:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Viaggio nel passato&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Travel in the past&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Italian title, dub 2:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;L&#039;alba della guerra&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;The dawn of the war&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WarDawn Silverboltairways.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Do yourself a favor; don&#039;t fly coach on Autobot Airways.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] and [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] are racing through the skies with the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] in hot pursuit. They have kidnapped human dignitaries for unknown, but certainly nefarious, purposes. The Aerialbots are debating amongst themselves in pretty stark terms if humans are worth saving. After they outmaneuver the Decepticons, Starscream dumps the hostages in mid-air. He and the others escape as the Aerialbots break off to save the humans.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Back at Autobot headquarters, the Aerialbots talk amongst themselves about their admiration of the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]], to the ire of the other Autobots. [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]] breaks in before the argument gets out of hand and alerts [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] to strange energy readings emanating from Cybertron. They board [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and head into the stratosphere to investigate.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Under the ocean, [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] gripes about the Aerialbots and losing air supremacy. [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] reports in that the Autobots have left earth, and Megatron goes after them across the [[space bridge]]. On [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Megatron explains that he has a time machine called a [[Kronosphere]] that he planned on using to steal energy from the past. Now, he wants to set a trap for the Aerialbots and send them back into the past. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Slingshot war dawn 1.jpg|right|200px|thumb|As tradition dictates, Slingshot and Starscream greet one another by pulling each other&#039;s finger.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Autobots arrive on a dark and dingy Cybertron, and are attacked by Starscream and the others. [[Slingshot (G1)|Slingshot]] tries to get the Decepticons to stop attacking and talk to them. Starscream and the others drop down for a chat while [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] frets. After gaining their trust, Starscream leads them right onto Megatron&#039;s Kronosphere. Silverbolt tries to warn them that it&#039;s a trap but it&#039;s too late. Megatron activates the device, intending to send them back to the beginning of time. The Aerialbots are encased in a purple bubble and disappear.&lt;br /&gt;
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Seconds later, Optimus Prime and the other Autobots ram through the wall of the building and attack. Prime shoots the machine in order to stop it from trapping the Aerialbots in the past. The Decepticons retreat and Optimus orders the machine repaired. He estimates it has sent the Aerialbots 9 million years into the past to Cybertron&#039;s [[Golden Age]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:OrionPax Ariel.jpg|left|200px|thumb|&amp;quot;Hi, I&#039;m Machobot... who are you?&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The bubble bursts and the five planes reappear on Cybertron, but it&#039;s a different world than the one they left. This Cybertron is bright and alive. The Aerialbots admire the scenery and argue about whose fault it was that the planet was trashed. Slingshot isn&#039;t ready to blame the Decepticons and says they are misunderstood. They are interrupted by a small &#039;bot who introduces himself as Orion Pax. He works at [[storage yard 67|the docks]] unloading energy shipments. Orion&#039;s friend [[Dion]] and girlfriend [[Ariel]] introduce themselves too. Dion alerts them to come outside and see the new type of flying robot that everyone is talking about. The Aerialbots go out and see Megatron, Soundwave and Shockwave flying overheard. Orion and Dion admire the flying robots, and Silverbolt warns them away from their hero worship. But does anybody listen to him? Nooooo.&lt;br /&gt;
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After Orion goes back to work unloading ships, he is approached by a visitor who introduces himself as Megatron. Orion shows him around but when they reach the energy storehouse Megatron orders [[Transport drone|the Decepticons concealed outside]] to attack. When Orion tries to stop him, Megatron mercilessly shoots him and his two friends. The Aerialbots arrive after the battle to find the three Autobots inoperative. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Back in the present, Megatron is planning a counterattack to regain the Kronosphere. In nearby wreckage, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] spots the body of a [[Guardian Robot]], sans head, and Megatron plans to reactivate it. Meanwhile, Optimus, [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] are still trying to repair the device.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WarDawn Prime killingmachine.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Hot lead is the right of all sentient beings!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In the past, the Aerialbots are carrying Orion&#039;s lifeless body to someone who can help. Slingshot is singing a very different tune now; he swears revenge on Megatron. A [[Alpha Trion (G1)|mustached figure]] from a doorway calls to them and suggests they go someplace else for help. Decepticon attacks have caused severe casualties among the Autobots. After the Aerialbots ask again, he agrees to fix Orion. After an unknown amount of time, the stranger emerges with a rebuilt Orion Pax, now going by the name Optimus Prime. Prime and the Aerialbots rush off to join the battle, while the stranger muses about rebuilding Ariel into a female warrior named [[Elita One]]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just as the tide of battle is turning in the Decepticons&#039; favor, Megatron is confronted by Optimus Prime, who takes out the entire Decepticon front line by himself. Meanwhile, the Aerialbots have returned to the docks to find the Decepticons raiding the energy stores.&lt;br /&gt;
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Flashing to the present, the time machine has been fixed, but Megatron and the Decepticons attack. To further complicate things, they let loose the Guardian Robot against the Autobots. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Back in the past, the Aerialbots set [[energy pack]] charges to blow up the storehouse in order to keep the energy out of Megatron&#039;s hands. Unfortunately, they are trapped inside because Decepticon warriors are blocking the exits. Silverbolt orders Slingshot to blow up the storehouse anyway. Just as the charges go off, the Kronosphere scoops them up and brings them back to the present. They merge into [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] and take out the Guardian Robot. Megatron retreats and an enraged Slingshot yells after him.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As they head back to Omega Supreme, Silverbolt describes their adventures in the past, and Optimus finally recognizes the Aerialbots as the ones who saved him. Ratchet demands to know what&#039;s going on and Optimus starts to tell the tale.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (4)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Slingshot (G1)|Slingshot]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] (9)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] (10)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime/Orion Pax]] (11)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] (12)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] (13)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dion]] (16)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Elita One|Ariel]] (17)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] (20)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] (21)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|c2=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] (3)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (14)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] (15)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (19)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transport drone|Transport drones &amp;amp; warriors]] (18)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;There&#039;s only one way to get those Aerialbots off our tails and that&#039;s to dump the chumps.” &lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Starscream&#039;&#039;&#039; right before he dumps the chumps, er, humans.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Are those guys crazy?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Crazy, or even dumber than I suspected.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Skywarp&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Starscream&#039;&#039;&#039; talking about the Aerialbots who stopped fighting and want to &amp;quot;talk&amp;quot; to the Seekers.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Starscream&#039;&#039;&#039;: Okay &#039;&#039;buddies&#039;&#039;, we&#039;ll talk. What do you want to know?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Slingshot&#039;&#039;&#039;: I want to know why Optimus Prime thinks you&#039;re evil.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Starscream&#039;&#039;&#039;: That old rust bucket doesn&#039;t know a thing about Decepticons. Stick with me. I&#039;ll teach you some things about the Decepticons, all right.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Silverbolt&#039;&#039;&#039;: I don&#039;t believe this!&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Starscream&#039;&#039;&#039; prepares to school the Aerialbots.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Those little twerps. They&#039;re tryin&#039; to switch sides!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Ironhide&#039;&#039;&#039; comments on the dubious loyalty of the Aerialbots.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;A warrior doesn&#039;t need a head, just a good strong body.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039;, commenting on the damaged Guardian robot that is about to be reprogrammed to serve the Decepticons.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;You may not recognize him.  He is no longer Orion Pax. He is the first of our new defenders... Optimus Prime.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;I was wrong, my friends. I admired Megatron merely because he was powerful. I failed to see how he used that power.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Alpha Trion&#039;&#039;&#039; introducing &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039;: You&#039;ve caused enough destruction for one day, Megatron!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039;: I haven&#039;t even &#039;&#039;started!&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[Megatron fires several shots at Optimus Prime, all of which bounce off harmlessly]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;[shocked]&#039;&#039; You, who are you?!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039;: Your worst nightmare!&lt;br /&gt;
:—Megatron and Optimus Prime confront each other for the first time.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;It all began about nine million years ago...&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Oh, great! It&#039;s gonna be one of those &#039;&#039;long&#039;&#039; stories!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Ratchet&#039;&#039;&#039;, after the latter demands to know what&#039;s going on.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animation or technical glitches===&lt;br /&gt;
*The air battle at the beginning of the episode is filled with errors: Firstly, Slingshot is coloured like Air Raid when Skywarp is bearing down upon him. Moments later, Skydive fires purple lasers at Skywarp. Moments after &#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039;, black panels on Thundercracker&#039;s hull are mis-aligned. Finally, Slingshot&#039;s cockpit is unpainted, as is Starscream&#039;s chest.&lt;br /&gt;
*The top of Slingshot&#039;s head is consistently colored white in this episode, where it was orange in &amp;quot;The Key to Vector Sigma.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*While Megatron berates the Seekers for allowing the Aerialbots to defeat them, Starscream&#039;s lower right arm is coloured red.&lt;br /&gt;
*Omega Supreme disappears in a couple of frames during his transformation sequence.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Silverbolt notifies Prime about the other Aerialbots leaving with Starscream, Prime&#039;s smokestacks are drawn totally wrong (they&#039;re white instead of gray and are sort of melting into his trailer).&lt;br /&gt;
*As Optimus says, &amp;quot;Our only hope is to repair these time controls,&amp;quot; his voice has an accent for a moment.&lt;br /&gt;
*Silverbolt asks Orion what he does, but it&#039;s Orion mouthing mouthing the words.&lt;br /&gt;
*The bottom of the screen has thin black lines on it for several shots just after the Aerialbots meet Orion.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Orion and the Aerialbots enter the loading bay for the first time, we see a vehicle that shares Dion&#039;s vehicle mode and colors unloading cargo. Right after that, Dion drives into the hangar from outside.&lt;br /&gt;
*Skydive explains to Fireflight why Megatron wouldn&#039;t recognize them 9 million years in the past, and Fireflight says, “Huh?” but the scene cuts to a close up of Skydive so it looks like he&#039;s saying it instead. Huh?&lt;br /&gt;
*Ariel is shown with the Aerialbots running back to the warehouse, but she&#039;s already in it (and gets shot down by Megatron) before they arrive. That was reused from the scene when Silverbolt said &amp;quot;That was Megatron&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Ariel is shot by Megatron, her cel is not properly aligned with the background, so one of her legs floats over the energon cubes.&lt;br /&gt;
*As Megatron flies out of the warehouse, his cannon is on his left arm.&lt;br /&gt;
*Skywarp is missing the metallic flange in his voice as he notes how the guardian robots used to give the Decepticons &amp;quot;a pounding back in the old days.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*As Alpha Trion decides to rename Ariel into Elita One, his chin is white rather than gray.&lt;br /&gt;
*In one aerial shot of Megatron&#039;s transport drones entering the docks, they disappear before reaching the doorway.&lt;br /&gt;
*Just before the Aerialbots return to the present, Megatron and the Decepticons land and fire their weapons, but the weapons make a &amp;quot;clunking&amp;quot; sound instead of the usual blasts.&lt;br /&gt;
*When the Aerialbots return, They appear a few seconds apart for some reason. Silverbolt transforms immediately and is missing his side windows. The rest of the Aerialbots simply run out of the energy field, but they&#039;re also given transformation sounds (which doesn&#039;t make sense as they were already in their robot modes in the past).&lt;br /&gt;
*As the Aerialbots start to form Superion, Slingshot and Fireflight form Superion&#039;s legs while Skydive and Air Raid form his arms. While this is different to their traditional placement, as Scramble City-type limbs, not altogether &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot;. However, once Superion is complete, Slingshot and Skydive have morphed into each other, likewise for Fireflight and Air Raid, resulting in the &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; Superion.&lt;br /&gt;
*Megatron and the Decepticons fly out of the building, but the next shot shows them flying &#039;&#039;over&#039;&#039; the hole on the roof rather than &#039;&#039;through&#039;&#039; it.&lt;br /&gt;
*The original broadcast version of the episode had the entirety of act two&#039;s soundtrack incorrectly played back at too slow a speed, noticeably pitching down the dialogue and music. This was corrected for the [[Kid Rhino]] DVDs, but when [[Shout! Factory]] went back to the broadcast masters for their original audio tracks, this error was re-introduced to their DVD of the episode in order to restore it to its original broadcast version.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continuity errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* The humans the Seekers dump at the beginning of the episode somehow don&#039;t die after plummeting several hundred feet and landing on the metal bodies of the Aerialbots.&lt;br /&gt;
* When Starscream dumps the hostages, we see him drop a total of 7 people. In the next shot they have doubled, as we see 14 falling through the sky. In the shot after that, we see a total of 10 hostages being rescued. &lt;br /&gt;
* It is unclear why the Aerialbots (bar Silverbolt) are so impressed by the Seekers considering the ease with which the Decepticons were defeated.&lt;br /&gt;
*Optimus Prime somehow knows exactly what the Kronosphere is doing despite the fact he was out of earshot when Megatron said it.&lt;br /&gt;
* In &amp;quot;[[The Search for Alpha Trion]]&amp;quot;, Optimus Prime had no idea that Alpha Trion was his creator, despite the fact he has a direct interaction with him here.&lt;br /&gt;
* Flashbacks in this episode depict the Autobots on Cybertron nine million years ago using [[energon cube]]s, despite the pre-movie cartoon&#039;s otherwise-consistent presentation of the cubes as the province of Decepticons alone, about which the Autobots knew nothing before 1984. The actual term &amp;quot;energon&amp;quot; is never used to refer to the cubes in this episode, however, so it may be an error on the animation level, rather than the scripting level.&lt;br /&gt;
*There&#039;s also at least one river on Cybertron, despite it being a world made of metal.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
*This takes place &amp;quot;a few weeks&amp;quot; after &amp;quot;[[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2]]&amp;quot;, according to Optimus Prime.&lt;br /&gt;
*The events of the minicomic &amp;quot;[[64 Cybertron Urban Defense Robot GADEP]]&amp;quot; take place around this time period, showing Megatron raiding more energon storage facilities.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
*This episode introduces a lot of major mythological elements from the &#039;&#039;Generation 1&#039;&#039; cartoon, including the origin of Optimus Prime and [[Elita One]] and showing the start of the [[Great War (G1)|Third Great War]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* While the Decepticons often threaten or injure humans, this is the first time they are shown explicitly trying to kill them via a direct act (Starscream dropping them from the sky).&lt;br /&gt;
**It may be more than coincidental that this episode also marks the return of Starscream after a three episode hiatus resulting from Megatron seriously injuring him in &amp;quot;Hoist Goes Hollywood&amp;quot;. Maybe he damaged Starscream’s compassion processor?&lt;br /&gt;
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*In an interview on the [[Kid Rhino]] DVD set, writer David Wise says that the meeting between Orion Pax and Megatron happened differently in the original version of the script. Megatron was to blast Orion&#039;s arm off and then use it to decapitate him. Sunbow, fearing the scene was too violent, had it changed.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Megatron asks who Optimus Prime is, and Optimus replies, &amp;quot;Your worst nightmare.&amp;quot; A nod to Rambo, perhaps?&lt;br /&gt;
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*For whatever reason, voice actor [[John Stephenson]] wasn&#039;t in this episode and thus Thundercracker and Alpha Trion had different voices; Alpha Trion&#039;s voice was [[Corey Burton]]&#039;s, and Thundercracker&#039;s was that of voice director [[Wally Burr]]. Burr also filled in as [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] in &amp;quot;[[Kremzeek!]]&amp;quot; and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] in &amp;quot;[[Masquerade]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Dion&#039;s fate is never revealed. Fans have speculated that he was also rebuilt and reformatted by Alpha Trion into a familiar character, with [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] being the two most popular suspects. Of course, it&#039;s entirely possible he simply died.&lt;br /&gt;
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*This episode is one of the two episodes before the [[The Transformers: The Movie|movie]] featuring a genuine [[female Transformer]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*Footage from this episode was used to represent a historical video in &amp;quot;[[Transform and Roll Out]]&amp;quot;, the opening movie for &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]&#039;&#039;. Most notably, a shot of Dion shielding his eyes with his hand was used out of context to represent an Autobot saluting.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Later, Dion&#039;s profile in &#039;&#039;[[Timelines (fiction)|Timelines]]&#039;&#039; #4, &amp;quot;[[Wings of Honor]]&amp;quot;, gave a name to the specific area of the docks which Orion and the others worked.  [[Storage yard 67]] was named for [[e-Hobby]] Orion Pax and Dion&#039;s [[Japanese ID number list|Japanese identification number]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*In case you couldn&#039;t tell, the headless guardian robot reactivated by Megatron and co. is totally the same one Megatron decapitated in the past, and the ruined building housing the Kronosphere is the very same warehouse the Aerialbots destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Home video releases==&lt;br /&gt;
{{homevidnote}}&lt;br /&gt;
;VHS&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 1986 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — Volume 12: &amp;quot;The Secret of Omega Supreme&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;War Dawn&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;A Plague of Insecticons&amp;quot; ([[Family Home Entertainment]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1986 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — The Key to Vector Sigma &amp;amp; War Dawn ([[Video Gems|A.M.T. Video Gems]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1988 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — The Key to Vector Sigma &amp;amp; War Dawn ([[Video Gems|V.I.P. Video Gems]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2000 — &#039;&#039;The Original Transformers&#039;&#039; — Volume 5: Return to Cybertron ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]])&lt;br /&gt;
;Laserdisc&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1995 — &#039;&#039;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers&#039;&#039; — Megatron Set ([[TakaraTomy|Takara]]) — Japanese audio only.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1999 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — Decepticon Edition ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.&lt;br /&gt;
;DVD&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2001 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — DVD Box 2 (Pioneer LDC) — Japanese audio only.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — &#039;&#039;The Original Transformers&#039;&#039; — Season 2 Part 2 ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — &#039;&#039;The Original Transformers&#039;&#039; — Season 2 Part 2: Vol. 7 (Rhino Entertainment)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; — Season 2 Part 2 ([[Metrodome]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2004 — &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; — Collection 3: Series 2.2 ([[Madman Entertainment]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2006 — &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Italy.png|20px|Italy]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; — Volume 06: Stagione Due Parte Quarta ([[Medianetwork Communication]]) — English and Italian audio.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; — Season Two: Part Two (Metrodome)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary &amp;quot;Matrix of Leadership&amp;quot; Collection ([[Shout! Factory]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; — Season Two, Volume Two: 25th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory)&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/cartoon-dossier/synopses/war_dawn.html Dossier at the Cybertron Chronicle]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Throughout the various Transformers canon, there have been several instances of Transformers with humanistic traits and having very human actions that possibly conflict with their status as mechanical robots. Many of these instances can be dismissed as stylistic choices by the artists or as gags not to be taken seriously.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glandular, digestive, and respiratory==&lt;br /&gt;
===Sweating===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LandsharkWOH-energondelivery.jpg|right|thumb|180px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* In [[Prime Time!|issue twelve]] of the original [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|&#039;&#039;Generation 1&#039;&#039; comic]], [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] is seen leaking lubricant from his head during a stressful confrontation with [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (as Shockwave points out), in a manner resembling sweating.&lt;br /&gt;
* Numerous times in the Marvel UK comic, [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] can be seen &amp;quot;sweating&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]&#039;&#039; featured Transformers displaying the traditional anime &amp;quot;sweat drop&amp;quot;, a giant bead of liquid appearing at the side of the head to convey embarrassment or exasperation.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wing Saber (Energon)|Wing Saber]] sweatdrops upon seeing a particularly scary expression on [[Lori]]&#039;s face. {{storylink|Ambush}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leozack]] sweatdrops oil when [[Landshark]] attacks him. {{storylink|Wings of Honor}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Coughing===&lt;br /&gt;
* In the G1 episode &amp;quot;[[Roll for It]]&amp;quot;, when the Autobots emerge from the ruins of a demolished [[antimatter]] laboratory, they are coughing.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] coughs when [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] surrounds him with smoke.{{storylink|Triple Takeover}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] coughs while infected with Cosmic Rust. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}}&lt;br /&gt;
* In &amp;quot;[[Call of the Primitives]]&amp;quot;, a fiery blast from [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] causes both the [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]] and [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] to cough.&lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;, [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] begins to cough for no reason while making a triumphant speech. Much like Powerglide&#039;s &amp;quot;heart&amp;quot;, this could be a one-shot joke. He also coughs while sleeping, and when amidst the smoky remains of an electrical fire.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] fake-coughed in the episode &amp;quot;[[Sparkwar Pt. III: The Siege]]&amp;quot; of the [[Beast Machines (cartoon)|&#039;&#039;Beast machines&#039;&#039; cartoon]] to draw [[Optimus Primal]]&#039;s attention to the matter of [[Noble]].&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[Secret Weapon: D-5]]&amp;quot;, [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]], [[Slapper (RID)|Slapper]], and [[Dark Scream]] all cough after inhaling smoke.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[Mortal Combat]]&amp;quot;, right after Optimus Prime says &amp;quot;I wish I could accommodate you,&amp;quot; he coughs silently.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] visibly coughs after [[Sam Witwicky]] uses the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to restore him to life in &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039;, even expelling what appears to be dust.&lt;br /&gt;
* On [[Rock Bottom]], [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] coughs after escaping the collapsed mine. Ironically, Bulkhead later claims &#039;&#039;in the same episode&#039;&#039; that Autobots don&#039;t need to breathe.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Breathing===&lt;br /&gt;
On &#039;&#039;[http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation Star Trek: The Next Generation]&#039;&#039;, it was explained that the android [http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Data Data]&#039;s breathing served to cool his inner components, but mostly so that he doesn&#039;t appear unnatural to the humans he was designed to resemble. He also blinks for this reason. It could be argued that breathing serves the same &amp;quot;cooling&amp;quot; purpose in Transformers, but this explanation is always going to smack of desperation.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In an &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; episode, [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] instructs [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]] that they have to synchronize their breathing before they can [[Powerlinx|powerlink]].&lt;br /&gt;
* At the climax of &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: The Movie]]&#039;&#039;, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] tries to strangle [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], complete with sounds of Hot Rod gagging and struggling to breathe. It&#039;s possible that Galvatron was trying to compress Hot Rod&#039;s neck until the Autobot&#039;s head popped off, but that isn&#039;t likely.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]], calling for help as a python constricts him, says he can&#039;t breathe. {{storylink|Dark Voyage}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] is shown to be breathing heavily after trying to chase down Blurr, even though he quips in a previous episode that not needing to breathe is useful for an Autobot. {{storylink|Velocity}}&lt;br /&gt;
* On the [[Nemesis (ROTF)| Nemesis]], [[Megatron (Movie)| Megatron]] and [[Starscream (Movie)| Starscream&#039;s]] breath can be seen due to condensation in the cold ship. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] breathes heavily as he runs in fear from [[Chaos (alien)|Chaos]] and the slave mines on [[Dread (planet)|Dread]]. {{storylink|Chaos (episode)|Chaos}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] is visibly breathing while in stasis. {{storylink|Deus ex Machina}}&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[[A Team Effort]]&amp;quot; comfirms that Transformers require ventilation airways in their neck to prevent system overheating, as when [[Charger]] strangles [[Roadgrabber]] in a fit of rage.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Spitting===&lt;br /&gt;
* Throughout his term on the Marvel UK comic letters page, [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] would regularly say &amp;quot;(Puttup)&amp;quot; after mentioning the Autobots or an Autobot&#039;s name to represent him spitting in disgust. This habit made an in-story appearance, with him spitting at [[Donny Finkleberg|Robot-Master]] despite his [[mouthplate]]. {{storylink|Second Generation!}}&lt;br /&gt;
* After [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] escapes from the Decepticons&#039;s New Jersey base via a sewer, he spits as he complains about their poor choice of back door.{{storylink|...All This and Civil War 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[Tangled Web]]&amp;quot;, [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] &amp;quot;spits&amp;quot; after reissuing his challenge to tangle with [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]], despite the fact that, like Soundwave, he has no apparent mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
*In &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039;, [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] repeatedly spits while talking to [[Sam Witwicky]] and his companions. [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] also has to spit his mouth clean after being blasted across a forest by [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]. [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] spits twice: once at Sam while in the [[Broadwater Metal Works]] foundry, and again when he mentions Prime&#039;s name. [[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]] also spits, albeit for no real reason, when addressing Sam and the humans outside of [[Chicago]] in &#039;&#039;[[Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Galvatron II|Galvatron II]] is seen spitting and drooling while explaining the situation.{{storylink|Out of Time!}} Both Megatron and Galvatron II are seen both spitting on each other. Gross!.{{storylink|Exodus!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crying===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Omega Supreme tears up.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Tissue: desired.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* A twinkle of light that may not literally be a tear, but is clearly intended to imply one, can be seen in [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]&#039;s eye at the end of &amp;quot;[[The Secret of Omega Supreme]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* When [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] dies in &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: The Movie]]&#039;&#039;, [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] is seen to dab at her eyes.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] told his colleagues he was about to &amp;quot;leak optical lubricant&amp;quot; when they wouldn&#039;t stop about giving up on [[Operation: Volcano]]. {{storylink|Target: 2006}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* In &amp;quot;[[The Burden Hardest to Bear]]&amp;quot;, [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] has tears falling from his eyes, presumably in pain, during his monstrous disfigurement after he gains the power of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* There is a teardrop on young [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]]&#039;s face after being beaten by Deathsaurus. {{storylink|The Star of Friendship, Jean and Star Saber!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* At the end of &amp;quot;[[Heroic! The Victory War]]&amp;quot;, some Decepticons are crying over their defeat.&lt;br /&gt;
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* As he mourns his dead friend [[Snowstalker]] and decides he can never fight again, [[Tigatron]] cries a single tear in beast mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] wiped a fake tear when [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] put on the heroic act. {{storylink|Code of Hero}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* When pondering [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]]&#039;s fate in &#039;&#039;[[Beast Machines (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]&#039;&#039;, [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] is shown to shed a single tear from one of her spider eyes. This may be due to her technoganic nature though. {{storylink|Revelations Part I: Discovery}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Bw2 ep6 twinwaterfalls.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Surf&#039;s up—and I&#039;m talkin&#039; &#039;&#039;up&#039;&#039;!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Throughout &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars II (cartoon)|Beast Wars II]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039;, and occasionally in the &#039;&#039;[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]&#039;&#039; cartoon, several characters are seen crying in hyperbolic anime fashion.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Tears can be seen welling up in [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]]&#039;s eyes and falling to the ground in &#039;&#039;[[Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]&#039;&#039; as he mourns a fallen comrade.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] told [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] to &amp;quot;cry him a river&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Night of the Combaticons}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ratchet &#039;&#039;actually&#039;&#039; cries tears of defeat when outwitted by Megatron. {{storylink|Warrior School!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] cries over [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]&#039;s death in [[The Art of War issue 5|&#039;&#039;The Art of War&#039;&#039; #5]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* In &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers: Animated]]&#039;&#039;, [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] cries, though this &amp;quot;ability&amp;quot; could be part of her partially organic nature. {{storylink|Along Came a Spider}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] cries after [[Sam Witwicky]] tells him cars are not allowed on campus, although he was exaggerating his sorrow and was likely deliberately leaking fluids to enhance the visual. &#039;&#039;{{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] was crying in the corner for not being in the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] game. [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] had to talk to him. Again. {{Storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.12#Law and Disorder|Law and Disorder}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Eating===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Optimusprime-mom.jpg|200px|right|thumb|Probably contains [[energon (fuel)|energon goodies]] in the shape of a happy face.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* There are references to [[Cybertronian food]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Skullcruncher]] has been known to eat Autobots as well as humans and other organics, despite not needing to do so to survive. Other Decepticons are disgusted by this practice.&lt;br /&gt;
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* There are Pepsi and [[Destron Pizza|pizza]] in the refrigerator in [[Pepsi Convoy]]&#039;s home.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039;, the Maximals and Predacons are shown to eat:&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]] even displays something of a voracious appetite, eating rats and leaving webs to catch prey. At one point, he captures Cheetor and prepares to drain the Maximal&#039;s fluids, claiming that it is the act he prefers over the nourishment (which adds just another level of creepy to the already creepy Tarantulas). {{storylink|The Web}}&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Rattrap]] eats apples. {{storylink|The Web}}&lt;br /&gt;
**And garbage {{storylink|The Web}}&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] eats a bird. {{storylink|Power Surge}}&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] eats [[Clone One|his clone]]. [[Optimus Primal]] remarks that he is &amp;quot;disgusting&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Double Dinobot}}&lt;br /&gt;
**While suffering from an [[Energon discharge virus]], [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] eats wild beans to build up his power. This later ends disastrously for [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]. {{storylink|The Low Road}}&lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;[[Beast Machines (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]&#039;&#039;, [[Optimus Primal]] wants to eat the underground tree&#039;s fruit; [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] protests that &amp;quot;we don&#039;t eat food, we process [[Energon (fuel)|energon]]—PERIOD!&amp;quot;, but is overruled. {{storylink|Forbidden Fruit}}&lt;br /&gt;
* According to [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]], [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] eats [[Autobot]] [[Protoform]]s for breakfast. But of course that could just be a rumour. {{Storylink|Transform and Roll Out}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brains]] is seen chewing on a screw, while [[Igor]] and the [[hatchling]]s are clearly shown to be ingesting minerals. {{storylink|Dark of the Moon (film)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Flatulence===&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[The Low Road]]&amp;quot;, Rhinox lets out an extreme amount of flatulence after consuming wild bean vines. This could be due to Maximals having organic parts in their makeup.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[Bad Spark]]&amp;quot;, [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] also lets out flatulence, blaming it on a large buildup of energy from his [[Transmetal]] body.&lt;br /&gt;
* Just go watch &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039;.  Happens every five minutes.  You can set a clock by it.&lt;br /&gt;
* One of the [[Mini-Constructicon]]s &amp;quot;cuts one&amp;quot;, causing the others to laugh and request someone to open a window in &amp;quot;[[Spotlight: Ramjet]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Urination===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tasmania Kid]] urinates (in beast mode) to put out a fire.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] performs a similar action on [[Seymour Simmons|Agent Simmons]] by popping off his automobile oil filter in robot mode. Optimus Prime claims that &#039;Bee is just leaking lubricants on him. Presumably, this action was inspired from witnessing a [[Mojo|similar incident]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Scoop (SG)|Scoop]] apparently urinates himself in [[Do Over]]&lt;br /&gt;
* In Beast Wars II, [[DJ (BWII)|DJ]] is known for wetting himself whenever he drinks too much oil.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Defecation===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] defecates on [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] in &#039;&#039;[[Robo-Capers]]&#039;&#039; from Marvel UK issue [[Robo-Capers issue 87|#87]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Blushing===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SeaChange Seaspray Blush.JPEG|right|thumb|180px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
* In the G1 episode &amp;quot;[[Sea Change]]&amp;quot;, [[Seaspray (G1)|Seaspray]] has his whole face turn bright red, even before he  jumps into the [[Well of Transformation|Well of Transformation]] and gets turned into a humanoid.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; Bumblebee has also been shown to be able to blush in a few episodes. {{storylink|Home Is Where the Spark Is}} {{storylink|Autoboot Camp}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Transformers Cybertron&#039;&#039; Override blushes when speaking to Lori, which is an indication of the character&#039;s original male gender in &#039;&#039;Galaxy Force&#039;&#039;. {{storylink|Honor}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Intoxication===&lt;br /&gt;
* In the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|G1 cartoon]] episode &amp;quot;[[Microbots]]&amp;quot;, the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]] behaving in a noticeably intoxicated fashion after consuming high-grade [[Energon (fuel)|energon]]. [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] refers to this as &amp;quot;over-energizing&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the UK comic, the [[Wrecker|Wreckers]] frequent a &amp;quot;bar&amp;quot; on Cybertron called [[Maccadam&#039;s Old Oil House]], where they consume high-grade energon, presumably for the purposes of getting intoxicated. [[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]] and [[Darkwing]] pay a visit to this establishment in a later story, and get so hammered that they don&#039;t even notice [[Quickswitch]] fighting with some [[Mecannibal]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;Beast Wars II&#039;&#039;, [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]] gets &amp;quot;drunk&amp;quot; on numerous occasions.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;Beast Wars II&#039;&#039; manga, [[Lio Convoy]] gets drunk once and messes up [[Apache]]&#039;s room.{{storylink|Recover the Bonds Lost!}}&lt;br /&gt;
* The [[Constructicon (Animated)|Constructicons]] in &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039;, whose personalities are shout-outs to construction worker stereotypes, seem to drink oil the way humans drink beer. However, they never actually get drunk.&lt;br /&gt;
**However, the Autobots did feel dizzy after a mini Soundwave spiked the oil nog. {{storylink|Human Error, Part I}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Miscellaneous===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cigarchomping.jpg|right|125px|thumb|Bet it&#039;s imported from Cubatron.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]] once gets a cold, causing him to cough and have a fever, in an issue of the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (manga)|&#039;&#039;Victory&#039;&#039; manga]]. {{storylink|The Star of Friendship, Jean and Star Saber!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]] got a bump on his head after being hit by Deathsaurus with a staff when they were young boys. {{storylink|The Star of Friendship, Jean and Star Saber!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* In &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: All Hail Megatron|All Hail Megatron]]&#039;&#039;, [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] chomps on a [[cigar|cy-gar]]. {{storylink|The Transformers: All Hail Megatron|All Hail Megatron}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; [[Bumblebee (Animated)| Bumblebee]] has bandages wrapped around his middle after Sari is knocked out and the Autobots return to their base. {{storylink|TransWarped}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] wore a cast over his arm after being hit by a falling building. {{storylink|Autoboot Camp}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Body parts==&lt;br /&gt;
===Mouths/teeth/tongues===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Main|Teeth}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Main|Mouthplate}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* The [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon series]] is the only major piece of fiction to &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; present Transformers as possessing [[teeth]] and/or [[Tongue|tongues]]. The features appear in both the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] and [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] comics, [[The Battlestars (manga)|&#039;&#039;The Battlestars&#039;&#039; manga]], the &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Beast Machines (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]&#039;&#039; animated series (where teeth would even be knocked out on occasion), the &#039;&#039;[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039; cartoon, and the [[Unicron Trilogy]] cartoons and comics.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In an episode of [[Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]], [[Browning]] sticks his tongue out at [[Wilder]] and [[Bullhorn]] after they insult [[Cancer (Masterforce)|Cancer]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the [[live-action film series]], the more human-like the robot, the more they are likely to have teeth. In the case of, say, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], his teeth are mechanical cubes overlaid on each other, while [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] has bona fide fangs. Optimus spits out a piece of his shattered faceplate in the second film, which is intended to resemble a boxer spitting out a tooth after a brutal match. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* One of the most prevalent examples of this tradition is the [[Kiss Players (manga)|&#039;&#039;Kiss Players&#039;&#039; manga]], in which a [[Legion]] character is equipped with a distinctive prehensile (and phallic) tongue.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Eyeballs/eyelashes===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AutoBerserk OptimusPrime closedeyes.jpg|right|125px|thumb|Oh, my eyes!!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Most Transformers have eyes. They see with them.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the episode &amp;quot;[[Auto Berserk]]&amp;quot;, Optimus Prime&#039;s eyes are closed (apparently to shield them against the smoke) much like a human&#039;s when the Autobots stagger out of the fire and smoke of the Negavator&#039;s destruction.&lt;br /&gt;
* While dying from life force depletion, [[Elita One]] occasionally closes her eyes. {{storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] and [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] clench their eyes shut when their ship is grabbed by a claw. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Cyclonus also closes his eyes when Galvatron is about to go through the [[Alya]] treatment and he cannot bear to watch. {{storylink|Webworld}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Lyzack]] sports some pretty heavy-duty eyelashes for her brief appearance in the &#039;&#039;[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (manga)|Victory]]&#039;&#039; manga. So does [[Esmeral (Victory)|Esmeral]]. {{storylink|Heroic! The Victory War}}&lt;br /&gt;
* In [[Spotlight: Hot Rod]], Hot Rod is shown to have what appears to be blast shields for his optics when he passes out after landing. Dealer&#039;s optics are mostly covered by his eyelids, so he looks half-passed out. &#039;&#039;Per an email query to IDW, their response is that Transformers do not have eyelids, that it&#039;s just artistic license.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
* The robots in the [[live-action film series]] have eyes designed to resemble cameras, enabling them to dilate and blink.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; [[Swindle (Animated)|Swindle]] has eyelids. He also blinks frequently.&lt;br /&gt;
* The cyborg [[GoBots (franchise)|GoBots]], as portrayed in the animated cartoon, do in fact possess eyelids (when the eyes aren&#039;t covered by a visor) and frequently blink.  Some also have visible pupils.&lt;br /&gt;
* Most robots in &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Prime]]&#039;&#039; possess camera-like eyes similar to those seen in the live-action films, which dilate, contract, and blink in a highly human-like fashion.  Notably, they also replicate the involuntary, back-and-forth movements of the human eye when idle.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Esmeral-manga.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:LyzackEyelashes01.jpg|About 15 gallons of mascara for those things.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:HotRodOpticShields.jpg|Hey, wake up!&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Dealerseyelids.jpg|Got munchies?&lt;br /&gt;
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===Obesity===&lt;br /&gt;
Although Transformers come in all shapes and sizes anyway, some characters have particularly round appearances that suggest something equivalent to human obesity.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In [[Letters page (Marvel UK)|Grim Grams #94]], [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] mentioned that [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] weighs a little over 90 tons and &amp;quot;could stand to lose a little around the fuel storage system&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] complained that the Decepticons had grown &amp;quot;fat and complacent&amp;quot; under [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]&#039;s rule. {{storylink|Surrender!}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] is virtually as wide as he is tall and is depicted as extremely round, with very short, stubby legs. It gives him more than a passing resemblance to a heavily obese person, or at best one of those huge, flabby, off-season wrestlers.&lt;br /&gt;
* Much the same could be said of [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]. Being big-chassised is no excuse to let yourself go.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ratchet (Animated)|&#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; Ratchet]] has a prominent gut that resembles a human paunch. Although ordinarily this might be considered merely a feature of his transformation scheme (ala [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]), he is specifically designed to be a crotchety &amp;quot;old man&amp;quot; character, and in flashback sequences to his younger days in the Great War, he notably &#039;&#039;lacks&#039;&#039; said paunch.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gnaw]]. Well, all the [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]], really, but seriously. It&#039;s kind of comically appropriate that the robots which do absolutely nothing but hang out and eat stuff all day are so roly-poly.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]] has a set of metal plates that form the front of his Alt-mode forming a sort of &amp;quot;beer gut&amp;quot; on his abdomen.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Masculine characteristics===&lt;br /&gt;
====Facial hair====&lt;br /&gt;
{{Main|Facial hair}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]], [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], [[Unicron]], and [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] all sport &amp;quot;facial hair&amp;quot; in the G1 cartoon. In addition to that, &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;s [[Bulkhead (Energon)|Bulkhead]], the films&#039; Optimus (who has a goatee), [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] and &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;s [[Scrapper (Animated)|Scrapper]], [[Mixmaster (Animated)|Mixmaster]], and [[Wreck-Gar (Animated)|the other Wreck-Gar]] all have varying amounts of facial hair. (The last of these was modeled after [[&amp;quot;Weird Al&amp;quot; Yankovic|his voice actor&#039;s]] own, prior to his appearance&#039;s overhaul.) The Shattered Glass versions of [[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]] and [[Rodimus Prime (SG)|Rodimus Prime]] also have &amp;quot;facial hair&amp;quot;, probably as a homage to Evil Spock&#039;s appearance in Star Trek.&lt;br /&gt;
* Many characters in the live-action series have facial hair, like [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]],[[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel]] and [[Fallen |Fallen]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Nuts, Bolts and Screws====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LightfootDramaticEncounter Gilmer&#039;s injury.jpg|thumb|right|200px]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gilmer]] got rammed in his crotch by [[Lightfoot]], causing it to become red and Gilmer to clutch it, groaning he got &amp;quot;kicked in the balls&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Lightfoot: A Dramatic Encounter}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Rattrap]] kicks [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] in the groin, causing apparent pain and giving him a high-pitched voice. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Stampy (BWN)|Stampy]] once suggested a kick to the &amp;quot;unmentionables&amp;quot; as a workable battle tactic. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 3|The Ascending #3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Heinrad]] has a set in [[Beast mode|tanuki mode]]. Since tanuki are known for their massive testicles, his equipment&#039;s existence actually makes sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Flareup (Timelines)|Flareup]] interpreted the word &amp;quot;[[AllSpark Key|key]]&amp;quot; in &amp;quot;[[Wikipedia:Ghostbusters|keymaster]]&amp;quot; a little differently than [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] intended. {{storylink|Bee in the City}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] has a pair of dangling wrecking balls in a... very unfortunate place. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Dickbot the blender guy|Blenderbot]] has a... well... [[:Image:Appliancebots2.jpg|just look for yourself (NSFW?)]]. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Feminine characteristics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CrossingtheRubicron-newbody.jpg|right|230px|thumb|I&#039;d tap it like the fist of an angry god.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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====Breasts====&lt;br /&gt;
Some female Transformers, such as [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] and [[Elita One]] (not to mention the &#039;&#039;other&#039;&#039; [[Arcee (Animated)|Arcee]] and [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Elita-1]]) have a protruding chest area that bears no apparent relation to their alt mode [[kibble]], but bears some vague resemblance to clothed human breasts, or a &amp;quot;monoboob&amp;quot;, if you will. Some females even have two separate and even more distinctly rounded breast-like protuberances, particularly in their fictional depictions. [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]], [[Antagony (BW)|Antagony]] and [[Beta (G1)|Beta]] all fall into this category. One, [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)| Thunderblast]], even has [[:Image:ThunderblastBoobsAndNipples01.jpg|visible nipples]]. &#039;&#039;(You&#039;re going to look, aren&#039;t you...?)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Lips====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:G1 Silverbolt cartoon.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Though not female, [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]&#039;s got &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;sexy&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; nice lips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Another common feature to denote gender in female Transformers is distinctly fuller, plumper lips than is standard, such as Blackarachnia&#039;s in &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;. Sometimes, however, they will additionally have red or otherwise different/darker coloration to their lips, with an evident similarity to human lipstick. Such paint-mouthed femmes include Blackarachnia in &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039;, her [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|&#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; cousin]], and the [[Female Autobots|G1 Female Autobots]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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As far as males go, none of them have differently colored lips, but some do have noticeably thicker lips. Generation 1 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Orion Pax]], [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]], [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] and [[Shōki]], for instance, have lips that can easily compete with the females&#039;, as does [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|&#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; Optimus Prime]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Hips====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SpacePirates Arcee Bunsofsteel.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Dan Reed, you perv.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Alike to humans, many a female Transformer has a distinctly more curving hipstructure.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;See also the &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Humanization#Sexuality|Sexuality]]&#039;&#039;&#039; section below.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Questionable body parts===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Powerglide heart.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Not [[Wikipedia:Astroboy|Astroboy]], we swear!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Nearly all Transformers seem to possess noses for no discernible functional reason, &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; characters and movieverse [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] being exceptions. Movie [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] also notes that he can smell [[Sam Witwicky|Sam]] when the latter is trying to escape from him, and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] remarks that he can &amp;quot;smell&amp;quot; [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]]. This would seem to imply that movieverse Transformers have a form of olfactory systems. The idea of noses is somewhat &#039;fixed&#039; in &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Transformers Prime]]&#039;&#039; by having the noses be a visible part of the robot&#039;s helmet as opposed to being part of their face.&lt;br /&gt;
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* At the end of the G1 episode &amp;quot;[[The Girl Who Loved Powerglide]]&amp;quot;, [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] is seen to have the LED outline of a cartoon heart within his chassis. This is somewhat nonsensical even within in the context of the show (the contents of Transformers chest cavities had been shown several times before), and is doubtless merely meant as a one-off sight gag.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Although listed separately above, breasts and &amp;quot;nuts, bolts and screws&amp;quot; would also fit under this category quite well, seeing as there doesn&#039;t appear to be any use for them on Transformers, other than to show them off.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Brains&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PredaBrain1.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Predaking: All brawn AND brains!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Predaking]] has an organic brain when he is sliced in half in the [[Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!|&#039;&#039;Zone&#039;&#039; cartoon]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Unicron]] also has an organic brain in the G.I. Joe crossover, [[Black Horizon, Part 2 of 2|Black Horizon Part 2]]. Later handwaved by explaining that the particular Unicron in the crossover came from the [[universal stream]] Gargent 984.08 Alpha and had taken on an organic brain in a similar fashion as the native [[Go-Bots]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other biological functions==&lt;br /&gt;
===Sleep===&lt;br /&gt;
* In the G1 comic, [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] plays a prank on [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] while he is in &amp;quot;rest mode.&amp;quot; {{storylink|Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)|Trailbreaker&#039;s &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; profile}} [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] falls asleep and dreams (or rather, has a nightmare), an experience Prime refers to as an &amp;quot;involuntary systems shutdown&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Back from the Dead}} Kup later attempts to rouse a vision-struck Optimus Prime by urging him to &amp;quot;wake up&amp;quot;—then reminds himself that &amp;quot;we don&#039;t sleep!&amp;quot; {{storylink|The Power and the Glory}} When [[Donny Finkleberg]] remarks that unlike machines, humans need to rest, [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] informs him Transformers need to as well to conserve fuel. Skids also has an on/off button in his dashboard. {{storylink|Heavy Traffic!}} &lt;br /&gt;
* In the Japanese [[The Headmasters (cartoon)|&#039;&#039;The Headmasters&#039;&#039; cartoon]], [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] is able to use a form of hypnotism on the Autobots, which can include lulling them to sleep.&lt;br /&gt;
* This ability is also shown by [[Hellbat (Victory)|Hellbat]] in the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|&#039;&#039;Victory&#039;&#039; cartoon]]. &lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039;, it has been firmly established that (perhaps partially due to their organic components), all Transformers within the cartoon sleep. Some prime examples of this are:&lt;br /&gt;
**Megatron has been shown to sleep in the command chair of the &#039;&#039;Darksyde&#039;&#039;, while his dino head mounted on the end of his arm stays awake, looks around, and smiles slyly. Wonder what it thinks about...&lt;br /&gt;
** Cheetor has been shown asleep at many points, complete with (occasionally prophetic) dreams. In &amp;quot;[[Feral Scream Part 2]]&amp;quot;, he also purrs when he&#039;s asleep. How cute!&lt;br /&gt;
** In &amp;quot;[[Call of the Wild]]&amp;quot;, the Maximals are kept awake for two days by the Predacons&#039; non-stop attacks on their base, which exacerbate their beast instincts overriding their logic circuits.&lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;Beast Wars II&#039;&#039;, [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]] often nods off in a narcoleptic-like fashion.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;Beast Wars II&#039;&#039; manga, Lio Convoy sleeps and has a nightmare at one point.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]] is quite fond of catching forty winks when possible. [[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]] does the same on one occasion. Armada Megatron is also seen asleep twice in the episode &amp;quot;Rebellion&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] enters a form of sleep he calls a &amp;quot;stasis nap&amp;quot;, during which he gets several parking tickets.  {{storylink|Transform and Roll Out}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Also in &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039;, when the Autobots feel tired after drinking an oil-nog (which Soundwave had spiked), they decide to go to sleep, pardon, to take a stasis nap. [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus]] even yawns. {{storylink|Human Error, Part I}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Aging===&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Life cycle}}&lt;br /&gt;
Some Transformers have been depicted as aging.  &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Image:Alpha Trion through the epochs.jpg|right|250px|thumb|]][[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] has been depicted in three different eras: 11 million years in the past, 9 million years in the past, and the present day. Though his [[character model]] undergoes many changes, his facial hair changes seem to mimic human aging. In his (chronologically) earliest depiction, he has a small black mustache. In his second depiction, his mustache has turned white.  By the modern era, he sports a long mustache and beard.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The [[Overlord (rank)|Overlord]] was so old that his body needed a regular energy supply to keep him functioning. {{storylink|State Games}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MangaYoungDeathyStarSaber.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Young and Innocent]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Xaaron]] couldn&#039;t transform anymore because he was old.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In an issue of the Marvel UK G1 comics, Kup&#039;s systems are going to shut down because he is too old.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]] and [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]] are depicted as &amp;quot;child&amp;quot; Transformers, complete with childlike temperaments, in flashbacks. {{storylink|The Star of Friendship, Jean and Star Saber!}}  &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Cohrada]] is depicted as &amp;quot;child&amp;quot; in his flashback in the issue &amp;quot;[[A Battle Fought Alone]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Movieverse [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] has a cane and is rusting. Some parts even fall off him when he transforms!&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]] claimed to have been a classic car when he was younger, and a tricycle when he was younger. While he was lying, his story was plausible enough for [[Slapper (RID)|Slapper]]. On the other hand, Slapper is an idiot.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Sexuality===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sideburnhearts.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Sorry, Side Burn, I don&#039;t think Wedge rolls that way.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Main|Transformer romance}}&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the most controversial aspects of Transformers is the idea of sexuality. While it is established in most continuities that Transformers do not reproduce sexually, most continuities nonetheless have distinctive male and [[Female Transformer|female characters]] and sometimes drops a hint Transformers may engage in (recreational) sex.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] brought the first official female Transformers into the canon, including [[Elita One]] and [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]]. The characters are noticeably more feminine in design and some have clearly defined romantic relationships with male Transformers. In contrast, such relations between two individuals of the same gender are [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|virtually]] unheard of. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Accents==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Main|Accents}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[:Category:Transformer anatomy|Transformer anatomy]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anatomic euphemism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Relatives]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformer clothing|Clothing]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://transfans.co.uk/comics_guide_detail.php?id=106&amp;amp;page=5 Transformers #94 Letters Page on Transfans.co.uk]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Throughout the various Transformers canon, there have been several instances of Transformers with humanistic traits and having very human actions that possibly conflict with their status as mechanical robots. Many of these instances can be dismissed as stylistic choices by the artists or as gags not to be taken seriously.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glandular, digestive, and respiratory==&lt;br /&gt;
===Sweating===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LandsharkWOH-energondelivery.jpg|right|thumb|180px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* In [[Prime Time!|issue twelve]] of the original [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|&#039;&#039;Generation 1&#039;&#039; comic]], [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] is seen leaking lubricant from his head during a stressful confrontation with [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (as Shockwave points out), in a manner resembling sweating.&lt;br /&gt;
* Numerous times in the Marvel UK comic, [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] can be seen &amp;quot;sweating&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]&#039;&#039; featured Transformers displaying the traditional anime &amp;quot;sweat drop&amp;quot;, a giant bead of liquid appearing at the side of the head to convey embarrassment or exasperation.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wing Saber (Energon)|Wing Saber]] sweatdrops upon seeing a particularly scary expression on [[Lori]]&#039;s face. {{storylink|Ambush}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leozack]] sweatdrops oil when [[Landshark]] attacks him. {{storylink|Wings of Honor}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Coughing===&lt;br /&gt;
* In the G1 episode &amp;quot;[[Roll for It]]&amp;quot;, when the Autobots emerge from the ruins of a demolished [[antimatter]] laboratory, they are coughing.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] coughs when [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] surrounds him with smoke.{{storylink|Triple Takeover}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] coughs while infected with Cosmic Rust. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}}&lt;br /&gt;
* In &amp;quot;[[Call of the Primitives]]&amp;quot;, a fiery blast from [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] causes both the [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]] and [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] to cough.&lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;, [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] begins to cough for no reason while making a triumphant speech. Much like Powerglide&#039;s &amp;quot;heart&amp;quot;, this could be a one-shot joke. He also coughs while sleeping, and when amidst the smoky remains of an electrical fire.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] fake-coughed in the episode &amp;quot;[[Sparkwar Pt. III: The Siege]]&amp;quot; of the [[Beast Machines (cartoon)|&#039;&#039;Beast machines&#039;&#039; cartoon]] to draw [[Optimus Primal]]&#039;s attention to the matter of [[Noble]].&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[Secret Weapon: D-5]]&amp;quot;, [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]], [[Slapper (RID)|Slapper]], and [[Dark Scream]] all cough after inhaling smoke.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[Mortal Combat]]&amp;quot;, right after Optimus Prime says &amp;quot;I wish I could accommodate you,&amp;quot; he coughs silently.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] visibly coughs after [[Sam Witwicky]] uses the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to restore him to life in &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039;, even expelling what appears to be dust.&lt;br /&gt;
* On [[Rock Bottom]], [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] coughs after escaping the collapsed mine. Ironically, Bulkhead later claims &#039;&#039;in the same episode&#039;&#039; that Autobots don&#039;t need to breathe.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Breathing===&lt;br /&gt;
On &#039;&#039;[http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation Star Trek: The Next Generation]&#039;&#039;, it was explained that the android [http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Data Data]&#039;s breathing served to cool his inner components, but mostly so that he doesn&#039;t appear unnatural to the humans he was designed to resemble. He also blinks for this reason. It could be argued that breathing serves the same &amp;quot;cooling&amp;quot; purpose in Transformers, but this explanation is always going to smack of desperation.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In an &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; episode, [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] instructs [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]] that they have to synchronize their breathing before they can [[Powerlinx|powerlink]].&lt;br /&gt;
* At the climax of &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: The Movie]]&#039;&#039;, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] tries to strangle [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], complete with sounds of Hot Rod gagging and struggling to breathe. It&#039;s possible that Galvatron was trying to compress Hot Rod&#039;s neck until the Autobot&#039;s head popped off, but that isn&#039;t likely.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]], calling for help as a python constricts him, says he can&#039;t breathe. {{storylink|Dark Voyage}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] is shown to be breathing heavily after trying to chase down Blurr, even though he quips in a previous episode that not needing to breathe is useful for an Autobot. {{storylink|Velocity}}&lt;br /&gt;
* On the [[Nemesis (ROTF)| Nemesis]], [[Megatron (Movie)| Megatron]] and [[Starscream (Movie)| Starscream&#039;s]] breath can be seen due to condensation in the cold ship. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] breathes heavily as he runs in fear from [[Chaos (alien)|Chaos]] and the slave mines on [[Dread (planet)|Dread]]. {{storylink|Chaos (episode)|Chaos}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] is visibly breathing while in stasis. {{storylink|Deus ex Machina}}&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[[A Team Effort]]&amp;quot; comfirms that Transformers require ventilation airways in their neck to prevent system overheating, as when [[Charger]] strangles [[Roadgrabber]] in a fit of rage.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Spitting===&lt;br /&gt;
* Throughout his term on the Marvel UK comic letters page, [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] would regularly say &amp;quot;(Puttup)&amp;quot; after mentioning the Autobots or an Autobot&#039;s name to represent him spitting in disgust. This habit made an in-story appearance, with him spitting at [[Donny Finkleberg|Robot-Master]] despite his [[mouthplate]]. {{storylink|Second Generation!}}&lt;br /&gt;
* After [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] escapes from the Decepticons&#039;s New Jersey base via a sewer, he spits as he complains about their poor choice of back door.{{storylink|...All This and Civil War 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[Tangled Web]]&amp;quot;, [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] &amp;quot;spits&amp;quot; after reissuing his challenge to tangle with [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]], despite the fact that, like Soundwave, he has no apparent mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
*In &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039;, [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] repeatedly spits while talking to [[Sam Witwicky]] and his companions. [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] also has to spit his mouth clean after being blasted across a forest by [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]. [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] spits twice: once at Sam while in the [[Broadwater Metal Works]] foundry, and again when he mentions Prime&#039;s name. [[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]] also spits, albeit for no real reason, when addressing Sam and the humans outside of [[Chicago]] in &#039;&#039;[[Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Galvatron II|Galvatron II]] is seen spitting and drooling while explaining the situation.{{storylink|Out of Time!}} Both Megatron and Galvatron II are seen both spitting on each other. Gross!.{{storylink|Exodus!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crying===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Omega Supreme tears up.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Tissue: desired.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* A twinkle of light that may not literally be a tear, but is clearly intended to imply one, can be seen in [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]&#039;s eye at the end of &amp;quot;[[The Secret of Omega Supreme]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* When [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] dies in &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: The Movie]]&#039;&#039;, [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] is seen to dab at her eyes.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] told his colleagues he was about to &amp;quot;leak optical lubricant&amp;quot; when they wouldn&#039;t stop about giving up on [[Operation: Volcano]]. {{storylink|Target: 2006}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* In &amp;quot;[[The Burden Hardest to Bear]]&amp;quot;, [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] has tears falling from his eyes, presumably in pain, during his monstrous disfigurement after he gains the power of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* There is a teardrop on young [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]]&#039;s face after being beaten by Deathsaurus. {{storylink|The Star of Friendship, Jean and Star Saber!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* At the end of &amp;quot;[[Heroic! The Victory War]]&amp;quot;, some Decepticons are crying over their defeat.&lt;br /&gt;
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* As he mourns his dead friend [[Snowstalker]] and decides he can never fight again, [[Tigatron]] cries a single tear in beast mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] wiped a fake tear when [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] put on the heroic act. {{storylink|Code of Hero}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* When pondering [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]]&#039;s fate in &#039;&#039;[[Beast Machines (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]&#039;&#039;, [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] is shown to shed a single tear from one of her spider eyes. This may be due to her technoganic nature though. {{storylink|Revelations Part I: Discovery}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Bw2 ep6 twinwaterfalls.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Surf&#039;s up—and I&#039;m talkin&#039; &#039;&#039;up&#039;&#039;!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Throughout &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars II (cartoon)|Beast Wars II]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039;, and occasionally in the &#039;&#039;[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]&#039;&#039; cartoon, several characters are seen crying in hyperbolic anime fashion.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Tears can be seen welling up in [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]]&#039;s eyes and falling to the ground in &#039;&#039;[[Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]&#039;&#039; as he mourns a fallen comrade.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] told [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] to &amp;quot;cry him a river&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Night of the Combaticons}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ratchet &#039;&#039;actually&#039;&#039; cries tears of defeat when outwitted by Megatron. {{storylink|Warrior School!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] cries over [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]&#039;s death in [[The Art of War issue 5|&#039;&#039;The Art of War&#039;&#039; #5]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* In &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers: Animated]]&#039;&#039;, [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] cries, though this &amp;quot;ability&amp;quot; could be part of her partially organic nature. {{storylink|Along Came a Spider}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] cries after [[Sam Witwicky]] tells him cars are not allowed on campus, although he was exaggerating his sorrow and was likely deliberately leaking fluids to enhance the visual. &#039;&#039;{{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] was crying in the corner for not being in the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] game. [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] had to talk to him. Again. {{Storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.12#Law and Disorder|Law and Disorder}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Eating===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Optimusprime-mom.jpg|200px|right|thumb|Probably contains [[energon (fuel)|energon goodies]] in the shape of a happy face.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* There are references to [[Cybertronian food]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Skullcruncher]] has been known to eat Autobots as well as humans and other organics, despite not needing to do so to survive. Other Decepticons are disgusted by this practice.&lt;br /&gt;
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* There are Pepsi and [[Destron Pizza|pizza]] in the refrigerator in [[Pepsi Convoy]]&#039;s home.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039;, the Maximals and Predacons are shown to eat:&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]] even displays something of a voracious appetite, eating rats and leaving webs to catch prey. At one point, he captures Cheetor and prepares to drain the Maximal&#039;s fluids, claiming that it is the act he prefers over the nourishment (which adds just another level of creepy to the already creepy Tarantulas). {{storylink|The Web}}&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Rattrap]] eats apples. {{storylink|The Web}}&lt;br /&gt;
**And garbage {{storylink|The Web}}&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] eats a bird. {{storylink|Power Surge}}&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] eats [[Clone One|his clone]]. [[Optimus Primal]] remarks that he is &amp;quot;disgusting&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Double Dinobot}}&lt;br /&gt;
**While suffering from an [[Energon discharge virus]], [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] eats wild beans to build up his power. This later ends disastrously for [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]. {{storylink|The Low Road}}&lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;[[Beast Machines (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]&#039;&#039;, [[Optimus Primal]] wants to eat the underground tree&#039;s fruit; [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] protests that &amp;quot;we don&#039;t eat food, we process [[Energon (fuel)|energon]]—PERIOD!&amp;quot;, but is overruled. {{storylink|Forbidden Fruit}}&lt;br /&gt;
* According to [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]], [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] eats [[Autobot]] [[Protoform]]s for breakfast. But of course that could just be a rumour. {{Storylink|Transform and Roll Out}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brains]] is seen chewing on a screw, while [[Igor]] and the [[hatchling]]s are clearly shown to be ingesting minerals. {{storylink|Dark of the Moon (film)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Flatulence===&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[The Low Road]]&amp;quot;, Rhinox lets out an extreme amount of flatulence after consuming wild bean vines. This could be due to Maximals having organic parts in their makeup.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[Bad Spark]]&amp;quot;, [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] also lets out flatulence, blaming it on a large buildup of energy from his [[Transmetal]] body.&lt;br /&gt;
* Just go watch &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039;.  Happens every five minutes.  You can set a clock by it.&lt;br /&gt;
* One of the [[Mini-Constructicon]]s &amp;quot;cuts one&amp;quot;, causing the others to laugh and request someone to open a window in &amp;quot;[[Spotlight: Ramjet]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Urination===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tasmania Kid]] urinates (in beast mode) to put out a fire.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] performs a similar action on [[Seymour Simmons|Agent Simmons]] by popping off his automobile oil filter in robot mode. Optimus Prime claims that &#039;Bee is just leaking lubricants on him. Presumably, this action was inspired from witnessing a [[Mojo|similar incident]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Scoop (SG)|Scoop]] apparently urinates himself in [[Do Over]]&lt;br /&gt;
* In Beast Wars II, [[DJ (BWII)|DJ]] is known for wetting himself whenever he drinks too much oil.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Defecation===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] defecates on [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] in &#039;&#039;[[Robo-Capers]]&#039;&#039; from Marvel UK issue [[Robo-Capers issue 87|#87]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Blushing===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SeaChange Seaspray Blush.JPEG|right|thumb|180px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
* In the G1 episode &amp;quot;[[Sea Change]]&amp;quot;, [[Seaspray (G1)|Seaspray]] has his whole face turn bright red, even before he  jumps into the [[Well of Transformation|Well of Transformation]] and gets turned into a humanoid.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; Bumblebee has also been shown to be able to blush in a few episodes. {{storylink|Home Is Where the Spark Is}} {{storylink|Autoboot Camp}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Transformers Cybertron&#039;&#039; Override blushes when speaking to Lori, which is an indication of the character&#039;s original male gender in &#039;&#039;Galaxy Force&#039;&#039;. {{storylink|Honor}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Intoxication===&lt;br /&gt;
* In the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|G1 cartoon]] episode &amp;quot;[[Microbots]]&amp;quot;, the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]] behaving in a noticeably intoxicated fashion after consuming high-grade [[Energon (fuel)|energon]]. [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] refers to this as &amp;quot;over-energizing&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the UK comic, the [[Wrecker|Wreckers]] frequent a &amp;quot;bar&amp;quot; on Cybertron called [[Maccadam&#039;s Old Oil House]], where they consume high-grade energon, presumably for the purposes of getting intoxicated. [[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]] and [[Darkwing]] pay a visit to this establishment in a later story, and get so hammered that they don&#039;t even notice [[Quickswitch]] fighting with some [[Mecannibal]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;Beast Wars II&#039;&#039;, [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]] gets &amp;quot;drunk&amp;quot; on numerous occasions.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;Beast Wars II&#039;&#039; manga, [[Lio Convoy]] gets drunk once and messes up [[Apache]]&#039;s room.{{storylink|Recover the Bonds Lost!}}&lt;br /&gt;
* The [[Constructicon (Animated)|Constructicons]] in &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039;, whose personalities are shout-outs to construction worker stereotypes, seem to drink oil the way humans drink beer. However, they never actually get drunk.&lt;br /&gt;
**However, the Autobot&#039;s did feel dizzy after a mini Soundwave spiked the oil nog. {{storylink|Human Error, Part I}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Miscellaneous===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cigarchomping.jpg|right|125px|thumb|Bet it&#039;s imported from Cubatron.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]] once gets a cold, causing him to cough and have a fever, in an issue of the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (manga)|&#039;&#039;Victory&#039;&#039; manga]]. {{storylink|The Star of Friendship, Jean and Star Saber!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]] got a bump on his head after being hit by Deathsaurus with a staff when they were young boys. {{storylink|The Star of Friendship, Jean and Star Saber!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* In &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: All Hail Megatron|All Hail Megatron]]&#039;&#039;, [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] chomps on a [[cigar|cy-gar]]. {{storylink|The Transformers: All Hail Megatron|All Hail Megatron}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; [[Bumblebee (Animated)| Bumblebee]] has bandages wrapped around his middle after Sari is knocked out and the Autobots return to their base. {{storylink|TransWarped}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] wore a cast over his arm after being hit by a falling building. {{storylink|Autoboot Camp}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Body parts==&lt;br /&gt;
===Mouths/teeth/tongues===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Main|Teeth}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Main|Mouthplate}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* The [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon series]] is the only major piece of fiction to &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; present Transformers as possessing [[teeth]] and/or [[Tongue|tongues]]. The features appear in both the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] and [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] comics, [[The Battlestars (manga)|&#039;&#039;The Battlestars&#039;&#039; manga]], the &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Beast Machines (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]&#039;&#039; animated series (where teeth would even be knocked out on occasion), the &#039;&#039;[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039; cartoon, and the [[Unicron Trilogy]] cartoons and comics.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In an episode of [[Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]], [[Browning]] sticks his tongue out at [[Wilder]] and [[Bullhorn]] after they insult [[Cancer (Masterforce)|Cancer]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the [[live-action film series]], the more human-like the robot, the more they are likely to have teeth. In the case of, say, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], his teeth are mechanical cubes overlaid on each other, while [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] has bona fide fangs. Optimus spits out a piece of his shattered faceplate in the second film, which is intended to resemble a boxer spitting out a tooth after a brutal match. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* One of the most prevalent examples of this tradition is the [[Kiss Players (manga)|&#039;&#039;Kiss Players&#039;&#039; manga]], in which a [[Legion]] character is equipped with a distinctive prehensile (and phallic) tongue.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Eyeballs/eyelashes===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AutoBerserk OptimusPrime closedeyes.jpg|right|125px|thumb|Oh, my eyes!!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Most Transformers have eyes. They see with them.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the episode &amp;quot;[[Auto Berserk]]&amp;quot;, Optimus Prime&#039;s eyes are closed (apparently to shield them against the smoke) much like a human&#039;s when the Autobots stagger out of the fire and smoke of the Negavator&#039;s destruction.&lt;br /&gt;
* While dying from life force depletion, [[Elita One]] occasionally closes her eyes. {{storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] and [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] clench their eyes shut when their ship is grabbed by a claw. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Cyclonus also closes his eyes when Galvatron is about to go through the [[Alya]] treatment and he cannot bear to watch. {{storylink|Webworld}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Lyzack]] sports some pretty heavy-duty eyelashes for her brief appearance in the &#039;&#039;[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (manga)|Victory]]&#039;&#039; manga. So does [[Esmeral (Victory)|Esmeral]]. {{storylink|Heroic! The Victory War}}&lt;br /&gt;
* In [[Spotlight: Hot Rod]], Hot Rod is shown to have what appears to be blast shields for his optics when he passes out after landing. Dealer&#039;s optics are mostly covered by his eyelids, so he looks half-passed out. &#039;&#039;Per an email query to IDW, their response is that Transformers do not have eyelids, that it&#039;s just artistic license.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
* The robots in the [[live-action film series]] have eyes designed to resemble cameras, enabling them to dilate and blink.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; [[Swindle (Animated)|Swindle]] has eyelids. He also blinks frequently.&lt;br /&gt;
* The cyborg [[GoBots (franchise)|GoBots]], as portrayed in the animated cartoon, do in fact possess eyelids (when the eyes aren&#039;t covered by a visor) and frequently blink.  Some also have visible pupils.&lt;br /&gt;
* Most robots in &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Prime]]&#039;&#039; possess camera-like eyes similar to those seen in the live-action films, which dilate, contract, and blink in a highly human-like fashion.  Notably, they also replicate the involuntary, back-and-forth movements of the human eye when idle.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Esmeral-manga.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:LyzackEyelashes01.jpg|About 15 gallons of mascara for those things.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:HotRodOpticShields.jpg|Hey, wake up!&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Dealerseyelids.jpg|Got munchies?&lt;br /&gt;
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===Obesity===&lt;br /&gt;
Although Transformers come in all shapes and sizes anyway, some characters have particularly round appearances that suggest something equivalent to human obesity.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In [[Letters page (Marvel UK)|Grim Grams #94]], [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] mentioned that [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] weighs a little over 90 tons and &amp;quot;could stand to lose a little around the fuel storage system&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] complained that the Decepticons had grown &amp;quot;fat and complacent&amp;quot; under [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]&#039;s rule. {{storylink|Surrender!}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] is virtually as wide as he is tall and is depicted as extremely round, with very short, stubby legs. It gives him more than a passing resemblance to a heavily obese person, or at best one of those huge, flabby, off-season wrestlers.&lt;br /&gt;
* Much the same could be said of [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]. Being big-chassised is no excuse to let yourself go.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ratchet (Animated)|&#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; Ratchet]] has a prominent gut that resembles a human paunch. Although ordinarily this might be considered merely a feature of his transformation scheme (ala [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]), he is specifically designed to be a crotchety &amp;quot;old man&amp;quot; character, and in flashback sequences to his younger days in the Great War, he notably &#039;&#039;lacks&#039;&#039; said paunch.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gnaw]]. Well, all the [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]], really, but seriously. It&#039;s kind of comically appropriate that the robots which do absolutely nothing but hang out and eat stuff all day are so roly-poly.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]] has a set of metal plates that form the front of his Alt-mode forming a sort of &amp;quot;beer gut&amp;quot; on his abdomen.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Masculine characteristics===&lt;br /&gt;
====Facial hair====&lt;br /&gt;
{{Main|Facial hair}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]], [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], [[Unicron]], and [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] all sport &amp;quot;facial hair&amp;quot; in the G1 cartoon. In addition to that, &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;s [[Bulkhead (Energon)|Bulkhead]], the films&#039; Optimus (who has a goatee), [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] and &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;s [[Scrapper (Animated)|Scrapper]], [[Mixmaster (Animated)|Mixmaster]], and [[Wreck-Gar (Animated)|the other Wreck-Gar]] all have varying amounts of facial hair. (The last of these was modeled after [[&amp;quot;Weird Al&amp;quot; Yankovic|his voice actor&#039;s]] own, prior to his appearance&#039;s overhaul.) The Shattered Glass versions of [[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]] and [[Rodimus Prime (SG)|Rodimus Prime]] also have &amp;quot;facial hair&amp;quot;, probably as a homage to Evil Spock&#039;s appearance in Star Trek.&lt;br /&gt;
* Many characters in the live-action series have facial hair, like [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]],[[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel]] and [[Fallen |Fallen]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Nuts, Bolts and Screws====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LightfootDramaticEncounter Gilmer&#039;s injury.jpg|thumb|right|200px]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gilmer]] got rammed in his crotch by [[Lightfoot]], causing it to become red and Gilmer to clutch it, groaning he got &amp;quot;kicked in the balls&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Lightfoot: A Dramatic Encounter}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Rattrap]] kicks [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] in the groin, causing apparent pain and giving him a high-pitched voice. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Stampy (BWN)|Stampy]] once suggested a kick to the &amp;quot;unmentionables&amp;quot; as a workable battle tactic. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 3|The Ascending #3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Heinrad]] has a set in [[Beast mode|tanuki mode]]. Since tanuki are known for their massive testicles, his equipment&#039;s existence actually makes sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Flareup (Timelines)|Flareup]] interpreted the word &amp;quot;[[AllSpark Key|key]]&amp;quot; in &amp;quot;[[Wikipedia:Ghostbusters|keymaster]]&amp;quot; a little differently than [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] intended. {{storylink|Bee in the City}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] has a pair of dangling wrecking balls in a... very unfortunate place. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Dickbot the blender guy|Blenderbot]] has a... well... [[:Image:Appliancebots2.jpg|just look for yourself (NSFW?)]]. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Feminine characteristics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CrossingtheRubicron-newbody.jpg|right|230px|thumb|I&#039;d tap it like the fist of an angry god.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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====Breasts====&lt;br /&gt;
Some female Transformers, such as [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] and [[Elita One]] (not to mention the &#039;&#039;other&#039;&#039; [[Arcee (Animated)|Arcee]] and [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Elita-1]]) have a protruding chest area that bears no apparent relation to their alt mode [[kibble]], but bears some vague resemblance to clothed human breasts, or a &amp;quot;monoboob&amp;quot;, if you will. Some females even have two separate and even more distinctly rounded breast-like protuberances, particularly in their fictional depictions. [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]], [[Antagony (BW)|Antagony]] and [[Beta (G1)|Beta]] all fall into this category. One, [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)| Thunderblast]], even has [[:Image:ThunderblastBoobsAndNipples01.jpg|visible nipples]]. &#039;&#039;(You&#039;re going to look, aren&#039;t you...?)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Lips====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:G1 Silverbolt cartoon.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Though not female, [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]&#039;s got &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;sexy&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; nice lips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Another common feature to denote gender in female Transformers is distinctly fuller, plumper lips than is standard, such as Blackarachnia&#039;s in &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;. Sometimes, however, they will additionally have red or otherwise different/darker coloration to their lips, with an evident similarity to human lipstick. Such paint-mouthed femmes include Blackarachnia in &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039;, her [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|&#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; cousin]], and the [[Female Autobots|G1 Female Autobots]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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As far as males go, none of them have differently colored lips, but some do have noticeably thicker lips. Generation 1 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Orion Pax]], [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]], [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] and [[Shōki]], for instance, have lips that can easily compete with the females&#039;, as does [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|&#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; Optimus Prime]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Hips====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SpacePirates Arcee Bunsofsteel.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Dan Reed, you perv.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Alike to humans, many a female Transformer has a distinctly more curving hipstructure.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;See also the &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Humanization#Sexuality|Sexuality]]&#039;&#039;&#039; section below.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Questionable body parts===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Powerglide heart.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Not [[Wikipedia:Astroboy|Astroboy]], we swear!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Nearly all Transformers seem to possess noses for no discernible functional reason, &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; characters and movieverse [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] being exceptions. Movie [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] also notes that he can smell [[Sam Witwicky|Sam]] when the latter is trying to escape from him, and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] remarks that he can &amp;quot;smell&amp;quot; [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]]. This would seem to imply that movieverse Transformers have a form of olfactory systems. The idea of noses is somewhat &#039;fixed&#039; in &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Transformers Prime]]&#039;&#039; by having the noses be a visible part of the robot&#039;s helmet as opposed to being part of their face.&lt;br /&gt;
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* At the end of the G1 episode &amp;quot;[[The Girl Who Loved Powerglide]]&amp;quot;, [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] is seen to have the LED outline of a cartoon heart within his chassis. This is somewhat nonsensical even within in the context of the show (the contents of Transformers chest cavities had been shown several times before), and is doubtless merely meant as a one-off sight gag.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Although listed separately above, breasts and &amp;quot;nuts, bolts and screws&amp;quot; would also fit under this category quite well, seeing as there doesn&#039;t appear to be any use for them on Transformers, other than to show them off.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Brains&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PredaBrain1.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Predaking: All brawn AND brains!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Predaking]] has an organic brain when he is sliced in half in the [[Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!|&#039;&#039;Zone&#039;&#039; cartoon]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Unicron]] also has an organic brain in the G.I. Joe crossover, [[Black Horizon, Part 2 of 2|Black Horizon Part 2]]. Later handwaved by explaining that the particular Unicron in the crossover came from the [[universal stream]] Gargent 984.08 Alpha and had taken on an organic brain in a similar fashion as the native [[Go-Bots]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other biological functions==&lt;br /&gt;
===Sleep===&lt;br /&gt;
* In the G1 comic, [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] plays a prank on [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] while he is in &amp;quot;rest mode.&amp;quot; {{storylink|Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)|Trailbreaker&#039;s &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; profile}} [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] falls asleep and dreams (or rather, has a nightmare), an experience Prime refers to as an &amp;quot;involuntary systems shutdown&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Back from the Dead}} Kup later attempts to rouse a vision-struck Optimus Prime by urging him to &amp;quot;wake up&amp;quot;—then reminds himself that &amp;quot;we don&#039;t sleep!&amp;quot; {{storylink|The Power and the Glory}} When [[Donny Finkleberg]] remarks that unlike machines, humans need to rest, [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] informs him Transformers need to as well to conserve fuel. Skids also has an on/off button in his dashboard. {{storylink|Heavy Traffic!}} &lt;br /&gt;
* In the Japanese [[The Headmasters (cartoon)|&#039;&#039;The Headmasters&#039;&#039; cartoon]], [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] is able to use a form of hypnotism on the Autobots, which can include lulling them to sleep.&lt;br /&gt;
* This ability is also shown by [[Hellbat (Victory)|Hellbat]] in the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|&#039;&#039;Victory&#039;&#039; cartoon]]. &lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039;, it has been firmly established that (perhaps partially due to their organic components), all Transformers within the cartoon sleep. Some prime examples of this are:&lt;br /&gt;
**Megatron has been shown to sleep in the command chair of the &#039;&#039;Darksyde&#039;&#039;, while his dino head mounted on the end of his arm stays awake, looks around, and smiles slyly. Wonder what it thinks about...&lt;br /&gt;
** Cheetor has been shown asleep at many points, complete with (occasionally prophetic) dreams. In &amp;quot;[[Feral Scream Part 2]]&amp;quot;, he also purrs when he&#039;s asleep. How cute!&lt;br /&gt;
** In &amp;quot;[[Call of the Wild]]&amp;quot;, the Maximals are kept awake for two days by the Predacons&#039; non-stop attacks on their base, which exacerbate their beast instincts overriding their logic circuits.&lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;Beast Wars II&#039;&#039;, [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]] often nods off in a narcoleptic-like fashion.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;Beast Wars II&#039;&#039; manga, Lio Convoy sleeps and has a nightmare at one point.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]] is quite fond of catching forty winks when possible. [[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]] does the same on one occasion. Armada Megatron is also seen asleep twice in the episode &amp;quot;Rebellion&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] enters a form of sleep he calls a &amp;quot;stasis nap&amp;quot;, during which he gets several parking tickets.  {{storylink|Transform and Roll Out}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Also in &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039;, when the Autobots feel tired after drinking an oil-nog (which Soundwave had spiked), they decide to go to sleep, pardon, to take a stasis nap. [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus]] even yawns. {{storylink|Human Error, Part I}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Aging===&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Life cycle}}&lt;br /&gt;
Some Transformers have been depicted as aging.  &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Image:Alpha Trion through the epochs.jpg|right|250px|thumb|]][[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] has been depicted in three different eras: 11 million years in the past, 9 million years in the past, and the present day. Though his [[character model]] undergoes many changes, his facial hair changes seem to mimic human aging. In his (chronologically) earliest depiction, he has a small black mustache. In his second depiction, his mustache has turned white.  By the modern era, he sports a long mustache and beard.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The [[Overlord (rank)|Overlord]] was so old that his body needed a regular energy supply to keep him functioning. {{storylink|State Games}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MangaYoungDeathyStarSaber.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Young and Innocent]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Xaaron]] couldn&#039;t transform anymore because he was old.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In an issue of the Marvel UK G1 comics, Kup&#039;s systems are going to shut down because he is too old.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]] and [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]] are depicted as &amp;quot;child&amp;quot; Transformers, complete with childlike temperaments, in flashbacks. {{storylink|The Star of Friendship, Jean and Star Saber!}}  &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Cohrada]] is depicted as &amp;quot;child&amp;quot; in his flashback in the issue &amp;quot;[[A Battle Fought Alone]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Movieverse [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] has a cane and is rusting. Some parts even fall off him when he transforms!&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]] claimed to have been a classic car when he was younger, and a tricycle when he was younger. While he was lying, his story was plausible enough for [[Slapper (RID)|Slapper]]. On the other hand, Slapper is an idiot.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Sexuality===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sideburnhearts.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Sorry, Side Burn, I don&#039;t think Wedge rolls that way.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Main|Transformer romance}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Main|Reproduction}}&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the most controversial aspects of Transformers is the idea of sexuality. While it is established in most continuities that Transformers do not reproduce sexually, most continuities nonetheless have distinctive male and [[Female Transformer|female characters]] and sometimes drops a hint Transformers may engage in (recreational) sex.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] brought the first official female Transformers into the canon, including [[Elita One]] and [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]]. The characters are noticeably more feminine in design and some have clearly defined romantic relationships with male Transformers. In contrast, such relations between two individuals of the same gender are [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|virtually]] unheard of. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Accents==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Main|Accents}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[:Category:Transformer anatomy|Transformer anatomy]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anatomic euphemism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Relatives]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformer clothing|Clothing]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://transfans.co.uk/comics_guide_detail.php?id=106&amp;amp;page=5 Transformers #94 Letters Page on Transfans.co.uk]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Throughout the various Transformers canon, there have been several instances of Transformers with humanistic traits and having very human actions that possibly conflict with their status as mechanical robots. Many of these instances can be dismissed as stylistic choices by the artists or as gags not to be taken seriously.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Glandular, digestive, and respiratory==&lt;br /&gt;
===Sweating===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LandsharkWOH-energondelivery.jpg|right|thumb|180px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* In [[Prime Time!|issue twelve]] of the original [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|&#039;&#039;Generation 1&#039;&#039; comic]], [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] is seen leaking lubricant from his head during a stressful confrontation with [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (as Shockwave points out), in a manner resembling sweating.&lt;br /&gt;
* Numerous times in the Marvel UK comic, [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] can be seen &amp;quot;sweating&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]&#039;&#039; featured Transformers displaying the traditional anime &amp;quot;sweat drop&amp;quot;, a giant bead of liquid appearing at the side of the head to convey embarrassment or exasperation.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Wing Saber (Energon)|Wing Saber]] sweatdrops upon seeing a particularly scary expression on [[Lori]]&#039;s face. {{storylink|Ambush}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leozack]] sweatdrops oil when [[Landshark]] attacks him. {{storylink|Wings of Honor}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Coughing===&lt;br /&gt;
* In the G1 episode &amp;quot;[[Roll for It]]&amp;quot;, when the Autobots emerge from the ruins of a demolished [[antimatter]] laboratory, they are coughing.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] coughs when [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] surrounds him with smoke.{{storylink|Triple Takeover}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] coughs while infected with Cosmic Rust. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}}&lt;br /&gt;
* In &amp;quot;[[Call of the Primitives]]&amp;quot;, a fiery blast from [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] causes both the [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]] and [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] to cough.&lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;, [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] begins to cough for no reason while making a triumphant speech. Much like Powerglide&#039;s &amp;quot;heart&amp;quot;, this could be a one-shot joke. He also coughs while sleeping, and when amidst the smoky remains of an electrical fire.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] fake-coughed in the episode &amp;quot;[[Sparkwar Pt. III: The Siege]]&amp;quot; of the [[Beast Machines (cartoon)|&#039;&#039;Beast machines&#039;&#039; cartoon]] to draw [[Optimus Primal]]&#039;s attention to the matter of [[Noble]].&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[Secret Weapon: D-5]]&amp;quot;, [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]], [[Slapper (RID)|Slapper]], and [[Dark Scream]] all cough after inhaling smoke.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[Mortal Combat]]&amp;quot;, right after Optimus Prime says &amp;quot;I wish I could accommodate you,&amp;quot; he coughs silently.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] visibly coughs after [[Sam Witwicky]] uses the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to restore him to life in &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039;, even expelling what appears to be dust.&lt;br /&gt;
* On [[Rock Bottom]], [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] coughs after escaping the collapsed mine. Ironically, Bulkhead later claims &#039;&#039;in the same episode&#039;&#039; that Autobots don&#039;t need to breathe.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Breathing===&lt;br /&gt;
On &#039;&#039;[http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation Star Trek: The Next Generation]&#039;&#039;, it was explained that the android [http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Data Data]&#039;s breathing served to cool his inner components, but mostly so that he doesn&#039;t appear unnatural to the humans he was designed to resemble. He also blinks for this reason. It could be argued that breathing serves the same &amp;quot;cooling&amp;quot; purpose in Transformers, but this explanation is always going to smack of desperation.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In an &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; episode, [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] instructs [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]] that they have to synchronize their breathing before they can [[Powerlinx|powerlink]].&lt;br /&gt;
* At the climax of &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: The Movie]]&#039;&#039;, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] tries to strangle [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], complete with sounds of Hot Rod gagging and struggling to breathe. It&#039;s possible that Galvatron was trying to compress Hot Rod&#039;s neck until the Autobot&#039;s head popped off, but that isn&#039;t likely.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]], calling for help as a python constricts him, says he can&#039;t breathe. {{storylink|Dark Voyage}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] is shown to be breathing heavily after trying to chase down Blurr, even though he quips in a previous episode that not needing to breathe is useful for an Autobot. {{storylink|Velocity}}&lt;br /&gt;
* On the [[Nemesis (ROTF)| Nemesis]], [[Megatron (Movie)| Megatron]] and [[Starscream (Movie)| Starscream&#039;s]] breath can be seen due to condensation in the cold ship. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] breathes heavily as he runs in fear from [[Chaos (alien)|Chaos]] and the slave mines on [[Dread (planet)|Dread]]. {{storylink|Chaos (episode)|Chaos}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] is visibly breathing while in stasis. {{storylink|Deus ex Machina}}&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;[[A Team Effort]]&amp;quot; comfirms that Transformers require ventilation airways in their neck to prevent system overheating, as when [[Charger]] strangles [[Roadgrabber]] in a fit of rage.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Spitting===&lt;br /&gt;
* Throughout his term on the Marvel UK comic letters page, [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] would regularly say &amp;quot;(Puttup)&amp;quot; after mentioning the Autobots or an Autobot&#039;s name to represent him spitting in disgust. This habit made an in-story appearance, with him spitting at [[Donny Finkleberg|Robot-Master]] despite his [[mouthplate]]. {{storylink|Second Generation!}}&lt;br /&gt;
* After [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] escapes from the Decepticons&#039;s New Jersey base via a sewer, he spits as he complains about their poor choice of back door.{{storylink|...All This and Civil War 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[Tangled Web]]&amp;quot;, [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] &amp;quot;spits&amp;quot; after reissuing his challenge to tangle with [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]], despite the fact that, like Soundwave, he has no apparent mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
*In &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039;, [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] repeatedly spits while talking to [[Sam Witwicky]] and his companions. [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] also has to spit his mouth clean after being blasted across a forest by [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]. [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] spits twice: once at Sam while in the [[Broadwater Metal Works]] foundry, and again when he mentions Prime&#039;s name. [[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]] also spits, albeit for no real reason, when addressing Sam and the humans outside of [[Chicago]] in &#039;&#039;[[Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Galvatron II|Galvatron II]] is seen spitting and drooling while explaining the situation.{{storylink|Out of Time!}} Both Megatron and Galvatron II are seen both spitting on each other. Gross!.{{storylink|Exodus!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crying===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Omega Supreme tears up.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Tissue: desired.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* A twinkle of light that may not literally be a tear, but is clearly intended to imply one, can be seen in [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]&#039;s eye at the end of &amp;quot;[[The Secret of Omega Supreme]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* When [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] dies in &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: The Movie]]&#039;&#039;, [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] is seen to dab at her eyes.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] told his colleagues he was about to &amp;quot;leak optical lubricant&amp;quot; when they wouldn&#039;t stop about giving up on [[Operation: Volcano]]. {{storylink|Target: 2006}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* In &amp;quot;[[The Burden Hardest to Bear]]&amp;quot;, [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] has tears falling from his eyes, presumably in pain, during his monstrous disfigurement after he gains the power of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* There is a teardrop on young [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]]&#039;s face after being beaten by Deathsaurus. {{storylink|The Star of Friendship, Jean and Star Saber!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* At the end of &amp;quot;[[Heroic! The Victory War]]&amp;quot;, some Decepticons are crying over their defeat.&lt;br /&gt;
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* As he mourns his dead friend [[Snowstalker]] and decides he can never fight again, [[Tigatron]] cries a single tear in beast mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] wiped a fake tear when [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] put on the heroic act. {{storylink|Code of Hero}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* When pondering [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]]&#039;s fate in &#039;&#039;[[Beast Machines (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]&#039;&#039;, [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] is shown to shed a single tear from one of her spider eyes. This may be due to her technoganic nature though. {{storylink|Revelations Part I: Discovery}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Bw2 ep6 twinwaterfalls.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Surf&#039;s up—and I&#039;m talkin&#039; &#039;&#039;up&#039;&#039;!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Throughout &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars II (cartoon)|Beast Wars II]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039;, and occasionally in the &#039;&#039;[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]&#039;&#039; cartoon, several characters are seen crying in hyperbolic anime fashion.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Tears can be seen welling up in [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]]&#039;s eyes and falling to the ground in &#039;&#039;[[Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]&#039;&#039; as he mourns a fallen comrade.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] told [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] to &amp;quot;cry him a river&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Night of the Combaticons}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ratchet &#039;&#039;actually&#039;&#039; cries tears of defeat when outwitted by Megatron. {{storylink|Warrior School!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] cries over [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]&#039;s death in [[The Art of War issue 5|&#039;&#039;The Art of War&#039;&#039; #5]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* In &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers: Animated]]&#039;&#039;, [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] cries, though this &amp;quot;ability&amp;quot; could be part of her partially organic nature. {{storylink|Along Came a Spider}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] cries after [[Sam Witwicky]] tells him cars are not allowed on campus, although he was exaggerating his sorrow and was likely deliberately leaking fluids to enhance the visual. &#039;&#039;{{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] was crying in the corner for not being in the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] game. [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] had to talk to him. Again. {{Storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.12#Law and Disorder|Law and Disorder}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Eating===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Optimusprime-mom.jpg|200px|right|thumb|Probably contains [[energon (fuel)|energon goodies]] in the shape of a happy face.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* There are references to [[Cybertronian food]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Skullcruncher]] has been known to eat Autobots as well as humans and other organics, despite not needing to do so to survive. Other Decepticons are disgusted by this practice.&lt;br /&gt;
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* There are Pepsi and [[Destron Pizza|pizza]] in the refrigerator in [[Pepsi Convoy]]&#039;s home.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039;, the Maximals and Predacons are shown to eat:&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]] even displays something of a voracious appetite, eating rats and leaving webs to catch prey. At one point, he captures Cheetor and prepares to drain the Maximal&#039;s fluids, claiming that it is the act he prefers over the nourishment (which adds just another level of creepy to the already creepy Tarantulas). {{storylink|The Web}}&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Rattrap]] eats apples. {{storylink|The Web}}&lt;br /&gt;
**And garbage {{storylink|The Web}}&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] eats a bird. {{storylink|Power Surge}}&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] eats [[Clone One|his clone]]. [[Optimus Primal]] remarks that he is &amp;quot;disgusting&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Double Dinobot}}&lt;br /&gt;
**While suffering from an [[Energon discharge virus]], [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] eats wild beans to build up his power. This later ends disastrously for [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]. {{storylink|The Low Road}}&lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;[[Beast Machines (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]&#039;&#039;, [[Optimus Primal]] wants to eat the underground tree&#039;s fruit; [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] protests that &amp;quot;we don&#039;t eat food, we process [[Energon (fuel)|energon]]—PERIOD!&amp;quot;, but is overruled. {{storylink|Forbidden Fruit}}&lt;br /&gt;
* According to [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]], [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] eats [[Autobot]] [[Protoform]]s for breakfast. But of course that could just be a rumour. {{Storylink|Transform and Roll Out}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brains]] is seen chewing on a screw, while [[Igor]] and the [[hatchling]]s are clearly shown to be ingesting minerals. {{storylink|Dark of the Moon (film)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Flatulence===&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[The Low Road]]&amp;quot;, Rhinox lets out an extreme amount of flatulence after consuming wild bean vines. This could be due to Maximals having organic parts in their makeup.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[Bad Spark]]&amp;quot;, [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] also lets out flatulence, blaming it on a large buildup of energy from his [[Transmetal]] body.&lt;br /&gt;
* Just go watch &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039;.  Happens every five minutes.  You can set a clock by it.&lt;br /&gt;
* One of the [[Mini-Constructicon]]s &amp;quot;cuts one&amp;quot;, causing the others to laugh and request someone to open a window in &amp;quot;[[Spotlight: Ramjet]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Urination===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tasmania Kid]] urinates (in beast mode) to put out a fire.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] performs a similar action on [[Seymour Simmons|Agent Simmons]] by popping off his automobile oil filter in robot mode. Optimus Prime claims that &#039;Bee is just leaking lubricants on him. Presumably, this action was inspired from witnessing a [[Mojo|similar incident]].&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Scoop (SG)|Scoop]] apparently urinates himself in [[Do Over]]&lt;br /&gt;
* In Beast Wars II, [[DJ (BWII)|DJ]] is known for wetting himself whenever he drinks too much oil.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Defecation===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] defecates on [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] in &#039;&#039;[[Robo-Capers]]&#039;&#039; from Marvel UK issue [[Robo-Capers issue 87|#87]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Blushing===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SeaChange Seaspray Blush.JPEG|right|thumb|180px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
* In the G1 episode &amp;quot;[[Sea Change]]&amp;quot;, [[Seaspray (G1)|Seaspray]] has his whole face turn bright red, even before he  jumps into the [[Well of Transformation|Well of Transformation]] and gets turned into a humanoid.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; Bumblebee has also been shown to be able to blush in a few episodes. {{storylink|Home Is Where the Spark Is}} {{storylink|Autoboot Camp}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Transformers Cybertron&#039;&#039; Override blushes when speaking to Lori, which is an indication of the character&#039;s original male gender in &#039;&#039;Galaxy Force&#039;&#039;. {{storylink|Honor}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Intoxication===&lt;br /&gt;
* In the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|G1 cartoon]] episode &amp;quot;[[Microbots]]&amp;quot;, the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]] behaving in a noticeably intoxicated fashion after consuming high-grade [[Energon (fuel)|energon]]. [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] refers to this as &amp;quot;over-energizing&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the UK comic, the [[Wrecker|Wreckers]] frequent a &amp;quot;bar&amp;quot; on Cybertron called [[Maccadam&#039;s Old Oil House]], where they consume high-grade energon, presumably for the purposes of getting intoxicated. [[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]] and [[Darkwing]] pay a visit to this establishment in a later story, and get so hammered that they don&#039;t even notice [[Quickswitch]] fighting with some [[Mecannibal]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;Beast Wars II&#039;&#039;, [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]] gets &amp;quot;drunk&amp;quot; on numerous occasions.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;Beast Wars II&#039;&#039; manga, [[Lio Convoy]] gets drunk once and messes up [[Apache]]&#039;s room.{{storylink|Recover the Bonds Lost!}}&lt;br /&gt;
* The [[Constructicon (Animated)|Constructicons]] in &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039;, whose personalities are shout-outs to construction worker stereotypes, seem to drink oil the way humans drink beer. However, they never actually get drunk.&lt;br /&gt;
**However, the Autobot&#039;s did feel dizzy after a mini Soundwave spiked the oil nog. ((storylink|Human Error, Part I}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Miscellaneous===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cigarchomping.jpg|right|125px|thumb|Bet it&#039;s imported from Cubatron.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]] once gets a cold, causing him to cough and have a fever, in an issue of the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (manga)|&#039;&#039;Victory&#039;&#039; manga]]. {{storylink|The Star of Friendship, Jean and Star Saber!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]] got a bump on his head after being hit by Deathsaurus with a staff when they were young boys. {{storylink|The Star of Friendship, Jean and Star Saber!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* In &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: All Hail Megatron|All Hail Megatron]]&#039;&#039;, [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] chomps on a [[cigar|cy-gar]]. {{storylink|The Transformers: All Hail Megatron|All Hail Megatron}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; [[Bumblebee (Animated)| Bumblebee]] has bandages wrapped around his middle after Sari is knocked out and the Autobots return to their base. {{storylink|TransWarped}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] wore a cast over his arm after being hit by a falling building. {{storylink|Autoboot Camp}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Body parts==&lt;br /&gt;
===Mouths/teeth/tongues===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Main|Teeth}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* The [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon series]] is the only major piece of fiction to &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; present Transformers as possessing [[teeth]] and/or [[Tongue|tongues]]. The features appear in both the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] and [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] comics, [[The Battlestars (manga)|&#039;&#039;The Battlestars&#039;&#039; manga]], the &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Beast Machines (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]&#039;&#039; animated series (where teeth would even be knocked out on occasion), the &#039;&#039;[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039; cartoon, and the [[Unicron Trilogy]] cartoons and comics.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In an episode of [[Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]], [[Browning]] sticks his tongue out at [[Wilder]] and [[Bullhorn]] after they insult [[Cancer (Masterforce)|Cancer]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the [[live-action film series]], the more human-like the robot, the more they are likely to have teeth. In the case of, say, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], his teeth are mechanical cubes overlaid on each other, while [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] has bona fide fangs. Optimus spits out a piece of his shattered faceplate in the second film, which is intended to resemble a boxer spitting out a tooth after a brutal match. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* One of the most prevalent examples of this tradition is the [[Kiss Players (manga)|&#039;&#039;Kiss Players&#039;&#039; manga]], in which a [[Legion]] character is equipped with a distinctive prehensile (and phallic) tongue.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Eyeballs/eyelashes===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AutoBerserk OptimusPrime closedeyes.jpg|right|125px|thumb|Oh, my eyes!!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Most Transformers have eyes. They see with them.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the episode &amp;quot;[[Auto Berserk]]&amp;quot;, Optimus Prime&#039;s eyes are closed (apparently to shield them against the smoke) much like a human&#039;s when the Autobots stagger out of the fire and smoke of the Negavator&#039;s destruction.&lt;br /&gt;
* While dying from life force depletion, [[Elita One]] occasionally closes her eyes. {{storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] and [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] clench their eyes shut when their ship is grabbed by a claw. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Cyclonus also closes his eyes when Galvatron is about to go through the [[Alya]] treatment and he cannot bear to watch. {{storylink|Webworld}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Lyzack]] sports some pretty heavy-duty eyelashes for her brief appearance in the &#039;&#039;[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (manga)|Victory]]&#039;&#039; manga. So does [[Esmeral (Victory)|Esmeral]]. {{storylink|Heroic! The Victory War}}&lt;br /&gt;
* In [[Spotlight: Hot Rod]], Hot Rod is shown to have what appears to be blast shields for his optics when he passes out after landing. Dealer&#039;s optics are mostly covered by his eyelids, so he looks half-passed out. &#039;&#039;Per an email query to IDW, their response is that Transformers do not have eyelids, that it&#039;s just artistic license.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
* The robots in the [[live-action film series]] have eyes designed to resemble cameras, enabling them to dilate and blink.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; [[Swindle (Animated)|Swindle]] has eyelids. He also blinks frequently.&lt;br /&gt;
* The cyborg [[GoBots (franchise)|GoBots]], as portrayed in the animated cartoon, do in fact possess eyelids (when the eyes aren&#039;t covered by a visor) and frequently blink.  Some also have visible pupils.&lt;br /&gt;
* Most robots in &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Prime]]&#039;&#039; possess camera-like eyes similar to those seen in the live-action films, which dilate, contract, and blink in a highly human-like fashion.  Notably, they also replicate the involuntary, back-and-forth movements of the human eye when idle.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Esmeral-manga.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Image:LyzackEyelashes01.jpg|About 15 gallons of mascara for those things.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:HotRodOpticShields.jpg|Hey, wake up!&lt;br /&gt;
Image:Dealerseyelids.jpg|Got munchies?&lt;br /&gt;
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===Obesity===&lt;br /&gt;
Although Transformers come in all shapes and sizes anyway, some characters have particularly round appearances that suggest something equivalent to human obesity.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In [[Letters page (Marvel UK)|Grim Grams #94]], [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] mentioned that [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] weighs a little over 90 tons and &amp;quot;could stand to lose a little around the fuel storage system&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] complained that the Decepticons had grown &amp;quot;fat and complacent&amp;quot; under [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]&#039;s rule. {{storylink|Surrender!}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] is virtually as wide as he is tall and is depicted as extremely round, with very short, stubby legs. It gives him more than a passing resemblance to a heavily obese person, or at best one of those huge, flabby, off-season wrestlers.&lt;br /&gt;
* Much the same could be said of [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]. Being big-chassised is no excuse to let yourself go.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ratchet (Animated)|&#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; Ratchet]] has a prominent gut that resembles a human paunch. Although ordinarily this might be considered merely a feature of his transformation scheme (ala [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]), he is specifically designed to be a crotchety &amp;quot;old man&amp;quot; character, and in flashback sequences to his younger days in the Great War, he notably &#039;&#039;lacks&#039;&#039; said paunch.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gnaw]]. Well, all the [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]], really, but seriously. It&#039;s kind of comically appropriate that the robots which do absolutely nothing but hang out and eat stuff all day are so roly-poly.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]] has a set of metal plates that form the front of his Alt-mode forming a sort of &amp;quot;beer gut&amp;quot; on his abdomen.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Masculine characteristics===&lt;br /&gt;
====Facial hair====&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]], [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], [[Unicron]], and [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] all sport &amp;quot;facial hair&amp;quot; in the G1 cartoon. In addition to that, &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;s [[Bulkhead (Energon)|Bulkhead]], the films&#039; Optimus (who has a goatee), [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] and &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;s [[Scrapper (Animated)|Scrapper]], [[Mixmaster (Animated)|Mixmaster]], and [[Wreck-Gar (Animated)|the other Wreck-Gar]] all have varying amounts of facial hair. (The last of these was modeled after [[&amp;quot;Weird Al&amp;quot; Yankovic|his voice actor&#039;s]] own, prior to his appearance&#039;s overhaul.) The Shattered Glass versions of [[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]] and [[Rodimus Prime (SG)|Rodimus Prime]] also have &amp;quot;facial hair&amp;quot;, probably as a homage to Evil Spock&#039;s appearance in Star Trek.&lt;br /&gt;
* Many characters in the live-action series have facial hair, like [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]],[[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel]] and [[Fallen |Fallen]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Nuts, Bolts and Screws====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LightfootDramaticEncounter Gilmer&#039;s injury.jpg|thumb|right|200px]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gilmer]] got rammed in his crotch by [[Lightfoot]], causing it to become red and Gilmer to clutch it, groaning he got &amp;quot;kicked in the balls&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Lightfoot: A Dramatic Encounter}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Rattrap]] kicks [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] in the groin, causing apparent pain and giving him a high-pitched voice. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Stampy (BWN)|Stampy]] once suggested a kick to the &amp;quot;unmentionables&amp;quot; as a workable battle tactic. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 3|The Ascending #3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Heinrad]] has a set in [[Beast mode|tanuki mode]]. Since tanuki are known for their massive testicles, his equipment&#039;s existence actually makes sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Flareup (Timelines)|Flareup]] interpreted the word &amp;quot;[[AllSpark Key|key]]&amp;quot; in &amp;quot;[[Wikipedia:Ghostbusters|keymaster]]&amp;quot; a little differently than [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] intended. {{storylink|Bee in the City}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] has a pair of dangling wrecking balls in a... very unfortunate place. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Dickbot the blender guy|Blenderbot]] has a... well... [[:Image:Appliancebots2.jpg|just look for yourself (NSFW?)]]. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Feminine characteristics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CrossingtheRubicron-newbody.jpg|right|230px|thumb|I&#039;d tap it like the fist of an angry god.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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====Breasts====&lt;br /&gt;
Some female Transformers, such as [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] and [[Elita One]] (not to mention the &#039;&#039;other&#039;&#039; [[Arcee (Animated)|Arcee]] and [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Elita-1]]) have a protruding chest area that bears no apparent relation to their alt mode [[kibble]], but bears some vague resemblance to clothed human breasts, or a &amp;quot;monoboob&amp;quot;, if you will. Some females even have two separate and even more distinctly rounded breast-like protuberances, particularly in their fictional depictions. [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]], [[Antagony (BW)|Antagony]] and [[Beta (G1)|Beta]] all fall into this category. One, [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)| Thunderblast]], even has [[:Image:ThunderblastBoobsAndNipples01.jpg|visible nipples]]. &#039;&#039;(You&#039;re going to look, aren&#039;t you...?)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Lips====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:G1 Silverbolt cartoon.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Though not female, [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]&#039;s got &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;sexy&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; nice lips.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Another common feature to denote gender in female Transformers is distinctly fuller, plumper lips than is standard, such as Blackarachnia&#039;s in &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;. Sometimes, however, they will additionally have red or otherwise different/darker coloration to their lips, with an evident similarity to human lipstick. Such paint-mouthed femmes include Blackarachnia in &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039;, her [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|&#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; cousin]], and the [[Female Autobots|G1 Female Autobots]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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As far as males go, none of them have differently colored lips, but some do have noticeably thicker lips. Generation 1 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Orion Pax]], [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]], [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] and [[Shōki]], for instance, have lips that can easily compete with the females&#039;, as does [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|&#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; Optimus Prime]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Hips====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SpacePirates Arcee Bunsofsteel.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Dan Reed, you perv.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Alike to humans, many a female Transformer has a distinctly more curving hipstructure.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;See also the &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Humanization#Sexuality|Sexuality]]&#039;&#039;&#039; section below.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Questionable body parts===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Powerglide heart.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Not [[Wikipedia:Astroboy|Astroboy]], we swear!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Nearly all Transformers seem to possess noses for no discernible functional reason, &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; characters and movieverse [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] being exceptions. Movie [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] also notes that he can smell [[Sam Witwicky|Sam]] when the latter is trying to escape from him, and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] remarks that he can &amp;quot;smell&amp;quot; [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]]. This would seem to imply that movieverse Transformers have a form of olfactory systems. The idea of noses is somewhat &#039;fixed&#039; in &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Transformers Prime]]&#039;&#039; by having the noses be a visible part of the robot&#039;s helmet as opposed to being part of their face.&lt;br /&gt;
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* At the end of the G1 episode &amp;quot;[[The Girl Who Loved Powerglide]]&amp;quot;, [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] is seen to have the LED outline of a cartoon heart within his chassis. This is somewhat nonsensical even within in the context of the show (the contents of Transformers chest cavities had been shown several times before), and is doubtless merely meant as a one-off sight gag.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Although listed separately above, breasts and &amp;quot;nuts, bolts and screws&amp;quot; would also fit under this category quite well, seeing as there doesn&#039;t appear to be any use for them on Transformers, other than to show them off.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Brains&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PredaBrain1.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Predaking: All brawn AND brains!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Predaking]] has an organic brain when he is sliced in half in the [[Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!|&#039;&#039;Zone&#039;&#039; cartoon]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Unicron]] also has an organic brain in the G.I. Joe crossover, [[Black Horizon, Part 2 of 2|Black Horizon Part 2]]. Later handwaved by explaining that the particular Unicron in the crossover came from the [[universal stream]] Gargent 984.08 Alpha and had taken on an organic brain in a similar fashion as the native [[Go-Bots]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other biological functions==&lt;br /&gt;
===Sleep===&lt;br /&gt;
* In the G1 comic, [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] plays a prank on [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] while he is in &amp;quot;rest mode.&amp;quot; {{storylink|Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)|Trailbreaker&#039;s &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; profile}} [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] falls asleep and dreams (or rather, has a nightmare), an experience Prime refers to as an &amp;quot;involuntary systems shutdown&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Back from the Dead}} Kup later attempts to rouse a vision-struck Optimus Prime by urging him to &amp;quot;wake up&amp;quot;—then reminds himself that &amp;quot;we don&#039;t sleep!&amp;quot; {{storylink|The Power and the Glory}} When [[Donny Finkleberg]] remarks that unlike machines, humans need to rest, [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] informs him Transformers need to as well to conserve fuel. Skids also has an on/off button in his dashboard. {{storylink|Heavy Traffic!}} &lt;br /&gt;
* In the Japanese [[The Headmasters (cartoon)|&#039;&#039;The Headmasters&#039;&#039; cartoon]], [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] is able to use a form of hypnotism on the Autobots, which can include lulling them to sleep.&lt;br /&gt;
* This ability is also shown by [[Hellbat (Victory)|Hellbat]] in the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|&#039;&#039;Victory&#039;&#039; cartoon]]. &lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039;, it has been firmly established that (perhaps partially due to their organic components), all Transformers within the cartoon sleep. Some prime examples of this are:&lt;br /&gt;
**Megatron has been shown to sleep in the command chair of the &#039;&#039;Darksyde&#039;&#039;, while his dino head mounted on the end of his arm stays awake, looks around, and smiles slyly. Wonder what it thinks about...&lt;br /&gt;
** Cheetor has been shown asleep at many points, complete with (occasionally prophetic) dreams. In &amp;quot;[[Feral Scream Part 2]]&amp;quot;, he also purrs when he&#039;s asleep. How cute!&lt;br /&gt;
** In &amp;quot;[[Call of the Wild]]&amp;quot;, the Maximals are kept awake for two days by the Predacons&#039; non-stop attacks on their base, which exacerbate their beast instincts overriding their logic circuits.&lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;Beast Wars II&#039;&#039;, [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]] often nods off in a narcoleptic-like fashion.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the &#039;&#039;Beast Wars II&#039;&#039; manga, Lio Convoy sleeps and has a nightmare at one point.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]] is quite fond of catching forty winks when possible. [[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]] does the same on one occasion. Armada Megatron is also seen asleep twice in the episode &amp;quot;Rebellion&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] enters a form of sleep he calls a &amp;quot;stasis nap&amp;quot;, during which he gets several parking tickets.  {{storylink|Transform and Roll Out}}&lt;br /&gt;
* Also in &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039;, when the Autobots feel tired after drinking an oil-nog (which Soundwave had spiked), they decide to go to sleep, pardon, to take a stasis nap. [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus]] even yawns. {{storylink|Human Error, Part I}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Aging===&lt;br /&gt;
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Some Transformers have been depicted as aging.  &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Image:Alpha Trion through the epochs.jpg|right|250px|thumb|]][[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] has been depicted in three different eras: 11 million years in the past, 9 million years in the past, and the present day. Though his [[character model]] undergoes many changes, his facial hair changes seem to mimic human aging. In his (chronologically) earliest depiction, he has a small black mustache. In his second depiction, his mustache has turned white.  By the modern era, he sports a long mustache and beard.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The [[Overlord (rank)|Overlord]] was so old that his body needed a regular energy supply to keep him functioning. {{storylink|State Games}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MangaYoungDeathyStarSaber.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Young and Innocent]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Xaaron]] couldn&#039;t transform anymore because he was old.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In an issue of the Marvel UK G1 comics, Kup&#039;s systems are going to shut down because he is too old.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]] and [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]] are depicted as &amp;quot;child&amp;quot; Transformers, complete with childlike temperaments, in flashbacks. {{storylink|The Star of Friendship, Jean and Star Saber!}}  &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Cohrada]] is depicted as &amp;quot;child&amp;quot; in his flashback in the issue &amp;quot;[[A Battle Fought Alone]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Movieverse [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] has a cane and is rusting. Some parts even fall off him when he transforms!&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]] claimed to have been a classic car when he was younger, and a tricycle when he was younger. While he was lying, his story was plausible enough for [[Slapper (RID)|Slapper]]. On the other hand, Slapper is an idiot.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Sexuality===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sideburnhearts.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Sorry, Side Burn, I don&#039;t think Wedge rolls that way.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the most controversial aspects of Transformers is the idea of sexuality. While it is established in most continuities that Transformers do not reproduce sexually, most continuities nonetheless have distinctive male and [[Female Transformer|female characters]] and sometimes drops a hint Transformers may engage in (recreational) sex.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] brought the first official female Transformers into the canon, including [[Elita One]] and [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]]. The characters are noticeably more feminine in design and some have clearly defined romantic relationships with male Transformers. In contrast, such relations between two individuals of the same gender are [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|virtually]] unheard of. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Accents==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Main|Accents}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[:Category:Transformer anatomy|Transformer anatomy]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anatomic euphemism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Relatives]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformer clothing|Clothing]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://transfans.co.uk/comics_guide_detail.php?id=106&amp;amp;page=5 Transformers #94 Letters Page on Transfans.co.uk]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Transformer anatomy]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Energon Grid (episode)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig2|the &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; episode|the protective planetary shield|energon grid}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{episode|&lt;br /&gt;
|series=Energon&lt;br /&gt;
|ep=14&lt;br /&gt;
|prev=Kicker Beware!&lt;br /&gt;
|next=Rodimus Friend or Foe?&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;Energon Grid&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|japanese=エネルゴングリッド発動&lt;br /&gt;
|romaji=Energon Grid Hatsudō&lt;br /&gt;
|translation=Energon Grid Engaged&lt;br /&gt;
|image=E14_titlecard.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|caption=Because the &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; grid is so passé.&lt;br /&gt;
|production code=&lt;br /&gt;
|production company=[[TV Tokyo]], [[Nihon Ad Systems|NAS]]&lt;br /&gt;
|writer=[[Akira Okeya]]&lt;br /&gt;
|director=[[Naoki Ōhira]]&lt;br /&gt;
|animation studio=[[Actas Inc.|Actas]], [[Studio A-CAT]] (3D)&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[April 9|9 April]] [[2004]] (Japanese)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[[July 1]], 2004 (English)&lt;br /&gt;
|continuity=[[Unicron Trilogy]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron creates three giant comets and launches them at the Earth, intending to devastate the planet.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Unicron]]&#039;s body shakes and rattles, as [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] struggles to create several cucumber-shaped &amp;quot;comets&amp;quot; to destroy [[Earth]] and the [[Autobot]]s, inspired by [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]]&#039;s attempt to crush the Autobots with the mobile fortress on the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]]. Scorponok is angry that he&#039;s not leading the mission, as [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]] and the others push the comets toward [[Earth]]. [[Alpha Quintesson|Alpha Q]] observes and speculates that this will destroy the whole planet... making it easy for him to collect the [[Energon (Energon)|energon]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Carlos Lopez|Carlos]] detects the three comets approaching. Scorponok wonders why they aren&#039;t using the warp gate; Tidal Wave replies that the purpose of the attack is to strike fear into the [[human]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Energon-Cel-Megatron-Straining.jpg|200px|thumb|left|Megatron strains so hard the CGI renderer can&#039;t keep up.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Autobots work to get the [[energon grid]] fully operational before the comets arrive in six hours. [[Lunar City]] is protected, and the troops move on to [[Ocean City]]. Soon only [[Desert City]] remains, but the tower output there isn&#039;t at full strength yet. [[Kicker Jones|Kicker]], [[Misha Miramond|Misha]] and [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]] wait for the fireworks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron decides that once all the humans are dead, he wants their [[spark]]s brought to him, so he can create a new batch of soldiers. [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]] tells him that won&#039;t work.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Brian Jones (Energon)|Dr. Jones]] still can&#039;t locate the problem, so Kicker and Misha head to [[Desert City]] aboard [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]], with Ironhide following. Jetfire lifts Kicker and Ironhide up to the suborbital portion of the tower.  &lt;br /&gt;
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As the reformatted [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]] remains bound to the wall, Megatron laughs in anticipation of Earth&#039;s destruction and the Autobots&#039; fear. Demolishor reflects that he&#039;s becoming mad with his own power, but when Megatron asks, he simply offers up that [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]&#039;s destruction will be a good thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Energon-Optimus-And-Dr-Jones.jpg‎|200px|thumb|right|C&#039;mon, gizza lookee!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Prime and [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] meet up with Jetfire in space. If the grids fail, Lunar City will be the front line, and the Autobots will have to stop the comets themselves. Alpha Q watches and speculates that they can&#039;t possibly do it, and that the energon will be his soon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ironhide lowers Kicker deep into the darkness of the tower, noting as he does that if they don&#039;t fix the problem, it&#039;s all over. Ironhide wonders why humans bother struggling to survive when they have such short lives; Kicker replies that it&#039;s just part of being alive, and that every human wants to live as long as possible. Ironhide doesn&#039;t quite get it.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Suddenly, Kicker sees something in the darkness. Ironhide&#039;s lights reveal a pair of blue-colored [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcon]]s, who attack. Ironhide shoots down their [[energon weapon]]s. Alpha Q tells &amp;quot;[[Blackout (Terrorcon)|Blackout]]&amp;quot; that he must not shoot at the human and the Autobot...a voice that Kicker hears. Alpha Q reviews Ironhide and Kicker&#039;s conversation.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Energon-Rodimus-Into-Torpedo.jpg‎|200px|thumb|left|Geronimo!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Kicker reports in to Misha, who sends a [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]] to check out the problem. Ironhide and Kicker suddenly see several inert [[Omnicon]]s below the two Terrorcons. They deduce that there was a battle; Misha says they can&#039;t get there in time, and Kicker will have to handle it.&lt;br /&gt;
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The comets have passed [[Mars (planet)|Mars]], so Prime&#039;s team prepares to engage them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Kicker takes Ironhide&#039;s [[energon star]], reasoning that it will lure the Terrorcons out. When they fail to follow, he realizes that they&#039;re damaged and can&#039;t fly, so he leaps down to them. They open fire, hitting Ironhide.&lt;br /&gt;
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The comets are nearly to Earth. Megatron and Demolishor arrive to watch the show, the latter not so happy about it. At Lunar City, [[Inferno (Energon)|Inferno]] orders the city&#039;s defenses to attack the passing comet; Prime&#039;s team also attacks, though it seems to be doing little good.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Energon-Kicker-Feed-Terrorcons.jpg|200px|thumb|right|Eat up, my pretties...]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Kicker offers the energon star to the Terrorcons, saying that they just need a little help. Alpha Q is intrigued.&lt;br /&gt;
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Suddenly, Hot Shot and Prime see a fleet of blue-hued Terrorcons approaching... led by [[Rodimus (Energon)|Rodimus]]! The creatures smash into the comet, breaching its hull; Rodimus enters and destroys it from within. Megatron responds by deciding to smash the other two into Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Terrorcons eat the energon and self-heal; Kicker calls in to Misha. Outside, the other two are approaching. Prime&#039;s team magically glows with the power of energon, and tries to push them away. Megatron observes with delight, as tidal waves begin to rise on Earth. Dr. Jones orders Prime&#039;s team to clear out, as the grid activates just in time, destroying the comets. The [[Decepticon]]s retreat under fire from Ocean City, and the Autobots enjoy the fireworks.&lt;br /&gt;
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Kicker senses a ship of unknown origin, landing near the city. He realizes it&#039;s come to pick up the two stray Terrorcons. It lifts off into the sky and through the grid. Ironhide realizes it&#039;s a [[Transformer|Cybertronian]] ship and wonders who&#039;s piloting it; Kicker votes to just let them go, certain that it&#039;s a friend, possibly Rodimus. Ironhide reveals that he put a homing device on one of the Terrorcons, which he regards as a great joke on Kicker, prompting Kicker to kick him.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Alpha Q wonders why he helped the Autobots, and how Rodimus controls the Terrorcons; he decides that Kicker is the key to the energon.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Inferno (Energon)|Inferno]] (9)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]] (11)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] (14)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Strongarm (Energon)|Strongarm]] (15)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]] (16)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] (17)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rodimus (Energon)|Rodimus]] (16)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|c2=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]] (3)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Snow Cat]] (4)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Carlos Lopez]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brian Jones (Energon)|Brian Jones]] (10)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Misha Miramond]] (12)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kicker Jones]] (13)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|c4=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Alpha Quintesson]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Blackout (Terrorcon)|Blackout]] (14)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Blackout (Terrorcon)|Divebomb stealth drones]] (15)&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Once we&#039;ve destroyed the Earth, collect the energon and bring me all of the &#039;&#039;humans&#039;&#039;&#039; sparks as well. I think I&#039;m going to use them to create a new batch of soldiers for my army.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;But, sir. You can&#039;t do that.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Why not?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Well, the humans&#039; spark is fragile.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;WHAT?! Impossible! Their spark&#039;s not eternal?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;One life. That&#039;s &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; they&#039;ve got.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Bahh. Then they really &#039;&#039;are&#039;&#039; poorly designed.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Demolishor&#039;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;bring you your dose of nonsensical dialog&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; discuss the drawbacks of human anatomy.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Whoah.  That&#039;s &#039;&#039;amazing!&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;It&#039;s the &#039;&#039;power of energon.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Ironhide&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Kicker&#039;&#039;&#039; watch a Terrorcon self-heal, and really really really want you to buy those toys.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Lost in translation===&lt;br /&gt;
* The dub adds in a lot of explication about Megatron&#039;s plan in the early scenes, which were mostly silent for &#039;&#039;Super Link&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* Alpha Q wonders if it&#039;s right to allow Earth to be destroyed, a point lost in the dub.&lt;br /&gt;
* The dub changes the Desert City tower&#039;s output from 10 percent to 70 percent—quite a difference.&lt;br /&gt;
* Demolishor tells Megatron that humans don&#039;t &#039;&#039;have&#039;&#039; sparks, and that if they die, that&#039;s it for them. Megatron replies that they&#039;re an inferior species.  The dub warps this conversation around a bit, making it sound rather nonsensical (see quotes above).&lt;br /&gt;
* In &#039;&#039;Super Link&#039;&#039;, Megatron more pointedly asks Demolishor if he still has feelings for Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
* Ironhide and Kicker&#039;s conversation on the nature of human life isn&#039;t changed much for the dub, but the dub omits Kicker likening his own life to the glow of fireworks, thereby diminishing a running theme of the episode.&lt;br /&gt;
* Misha responds to Kicker that she &#039;&#039;already&#039;&#039; sent Skyblast(s) to investigate, thereby explaining where the inert Omnicons came from. The dub mutates this into her saying she &#039;&#039;will&#039;&#039; send Omnicons, only to say a second later that her group can&#039;t get there in time.&lt;br /&gt;
* The dub no longer explicitly state that one of the comets has pulled ahead of the other two, though it remains discernible from the animation... sorta.&lt;br /&gt;
* Alpha Q&#039;s closing self-conversation is more a debate on whether he wants to help the Autobots and protect the Earth. The dub makes this somewhat less clear.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Pain count===&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Uh?&amp;quot;: 17&lt;br /&gt;
* Stock footage: 2&lt;br /&gt;
* Energon is great: 2&lt;br /&gt;
* We&#039;ve gotta: 1&lt;br /&gt;
* Take it Easy: 1&lt;br /&gt;
* No way: 1&lt;br /&gt;
* What&#039;s going on: 1&lt;br /&gt;
* Aw, great: 1&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animation and technical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* Megatron is not voiced by David Kaye in this episode, but [[Richard Newman]]—which is somewhat more inexplicable than normal because Newman was not otherwise part of the &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; dub cast.&lt;br /&gt;
* Kicker tells Ironhide to hold the &#039;&#039;light&#039;&#039; steady, when it&#039;s the &#039;&#039;rope&#039;&#039; that&#039;s moving around.  The same error repeats in &#039;&#039;Super Link&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continuity errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* A comical moment relies on Ironhide barely managing to grab hold of Jetfire as he flies up the tower, in defiance of all the Transformers&#039; previously-demonstrated ability to fly just about anywhere.&lt;br /&gt;
* If the Terrorcons are draining the tower&#039;s energon, why do they need to be given energon to heal themselves?&lt;br /&gt;
* Kicker and Ironhide never did anything to actually fix the tower (on screen, at least).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
*As Jetfire arrives at Desert City, one of the Omnicons in the background is rather amusingly kicking his legs around as he&#039;s pulled up by a cable.&lt;br /&gt;
*The autobots seem REALLY unenthusiastic at seeing the legendary [[Rodimus (Energon)|Rodimus]] that has apparently been gone for 8,000 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Home video releases==&lt;br /&gt;
{{homevidnote}}&lt;br /&gt;
;DVD&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2004 — &#039;&#039;Transformer: Super Link&#039;&#039; — Volume 004 ([[Interchannel]]) — Japanese audio only.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2008 — &#039;&#039;Transformers: Energon&#039;&#039; — The Ultimate Collection ([[Paramount Pictures|Paramount]])&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Energon episodes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Mouthplate</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Optimus face.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I am smiling on the outside, but crying on the inside... not that you could tell anyway.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Instead of regular human facial features, some Transformers have what looks like a plate affixed to their lower jaw, usually covering up to their nose.  While no official name exists for these, they are usually called &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;mouthplates&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039; or &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;faceplates&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (despite a &#039;regular&#039; face once being described as a faceplate in the TV series). Two of the most famous examples are those of [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]&#039;s [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]. Sufferers of [[Primus apotheosis]] often affix themselves with unnecessary faceplates to better emulate their idol.&lt;br /&gt;
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In earlier series, a Transformer&#039;s mouthplate moved when they spoke, as if there were a working jaw underneath. In [[Victory (cartoon)| Victory]], [[Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]] and the [[Unicron Trilogy]], however, it remains static.&lt;br /&gt;
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Certain Transformers who sport mouthplates do have regular mouths underneath. Sometimes these mouthplates are even retractable, either in full or partially, to reveal their mouths.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction/Toylines==&lt;br /&gt;
===Generation 1===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] featured a prominent mouthplate in both [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|toy]] form (as do all [[Action Master|other]] [[SCF|G1-based]] [[Revoltech|toyline]] [[Robot Heroes|versions]]). The 20th Anniversary figure featured a mouthplate that was movable via a button on the back of his head that slightly lowered the spring-supported mouthplate to recreate the talking action seen in the cartoons.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] had a similar mouthplate, but no apparent nose (whether any of his assumed face is visible or not is debatable, considering how visor-esque his eyes are). Like Optimus, both his cartoon and [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|toy]] form had the mask. No toys have yet been made with a moving mask feature.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]&#039;s mouthplate was unique in that it was fixed, even in the cartoon. Instead of a movable mouthplate, you knew Wheeljack was speaking because his &amp;quot;ears&amp;quot; flashed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Many early toys had mouthplates that were simply disregarded in favor of mouths in fictional appearances (barring the occasional toy-accurate rendering). [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] in particular had a mask in [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|toy]] form, but not in cartoon or [[Marvel Comics|comic]] form. A rare reissue of the toy features a [[Show-accuracy|cartoon-accurate]] face, however, as do most toys of him since. Conversely, as Goldbug, he featured a mask in both cartoon and toy form.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the other hand, [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] has a faceplate on the cartoon even though his toy has a mouth.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] in his newly reborn body from the Japanese continuity also feature a mouthplate.{{storylink|Hybrid Style Convoy Black Version}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] sometimes has a mouthplate and sometimes he doesn&#039;t.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Beast Wars===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Optimus Primal]] was shown to have a mouthplate which would slide into place when he entered battle. This was used to reconcile the presence of an actual mouth on his animation model with the lack thereof on his toy. Later [[Retool|retoolings]] of the toy reflected the animation model.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cybertron===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] animation model displays a similar setup to Optimus Primal, with a mouthplate that slides into place when entering [[Super Mode]]. However in this case the toy reflects this, featuring a gimmick that allows the face to display either configuration.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Dreamwave comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Bumblebeebattlemask.jpg|left|200px|thumb|25 years before someone realized his toy has no face.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In [[The War Within]], [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] was depicted as having a removable face mask with mouthplate that resembled the original sculpt of his toy. In [[War Within: The Dark Ages|The Dark Ages]], [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] was given a similar treatment with a flip-up faceguard. The [[Titanium Series]] release of this character design featured the faceguard, but it was not removable. [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] was depicted with a removable face mask like Bumblebee&#039;s in the ongoing Generation 1 series.&lt;br /&gt;
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===IDW comics continuity ===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Stormbringer (comics)|Stormbringer]], Jetfire has a removable mask with mouthplate as part of his battle gear. This feature was included in the [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] toy of this character design.&lt;br /&gt;
Most recently in [[All Hail Megatron]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] himself revealed he has a retractable mouthplate much like his [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Movie counterpart]]. This would be the first time in an official story that the G1 version&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Although [[Don Figueroa|the artist]] himself doesn&#039;t consider him to be a G1 version.[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=143991#143991]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; of the character is portrayed as being able to remove his mouthplate, revealing that he does have a mouth underneath it (which he uses to eat some energon).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Live-action &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movies===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF Prime mouthplate shatter.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Megatron did that just to piss off the [[GEEWUN|purists]]. He&#039;s that evil.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] is depicted as having a combat mouthplate which closes over his normal mouth to protect his face. To date, only one of Prime&#039;s [[Robot Heroes]] figurines, Buster Optimus Prime, and the Battle Hooks redeco display his face and mouth, while all other merchandise features the plate. [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] also has a mouthplate, seen very briefly. [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] has two pieces that rest on the top of his head normally but slide down and clamp together over his whole face in battle. Bumblebee&#039;s faceplate has a very insectoid appearance, crediting his name. [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] has a visor that protects his upper-face in combat. Ironhide also has a mouthplate similar in appearance to Optimus Prime&#039;s as shown in some concept art, however he has never officially used it on film.&lt;br /&gt;
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In &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; Optimus Prime&#039;s faceplate is smashed to pieces when he is kicked in the face by [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], but it is replaced when he combines with [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]]. While not noticeable in the film, [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]]&#039;s [[Human Alliance]] toy confirms he has an extra layer of armor plating (which was thought to be his actual face) protecting his main face.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
Most of the Autobots in [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]]&#039;s crew have retractable faceplates. Optimus, [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]], [[Sari Sumdac|Sari]] and [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] each have one. [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] has one, too, though his is unique in that it covers his whole face. Among the Decepticons, [[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]] has a non-retractable mouthplate, much like his [[Soundwave (G1)|G1 predecessor]]&#039;s. Optimus&#039; mouthplate flaps up and down when he talks, just like that of G1 Optimus, but none of the others&#039; do.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers Prime&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] each have a mouthplate that they slide into place over their faces whenever they enter battle.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fan commentator [[Dave Edwards|Zobovor]] nicknamed these distinctive items &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;woobers&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (crediting the term to a younger relative), and the name became popular with some fans.&lt;br /&gt;
* Both the [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|&#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; Optimus Prime]] and the [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|&#039;&#039;20th Anniversary&#039;&#039; Optimus Prime]] toys have mouthplates that can move up and down when a button located on their heads is depressed, even though Armada Prime&#039;s mouthplate never moved in the series itself. Additionally, the &#039;&#039;20th Anniversary&#039;&#039; toy has teeth (or possibly a speaker grille) hidden behind the mouthplate, in reference to Optimus Prime&#039;s battle-damaged appearance in the [[Generation 2 (Marvel comic)|&#039;&#039;Generation 2&#039;&#039; comics]], though this detail cannot be seen without disassembling the entire head (or just looking down with it pulled down really far).&lt;br /&gt;
* The lack of a full-time mouthplate [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|on]] [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|certain]] [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|characters]] has, in the past, been known to result in [[GEEWUN|certain]] [[Ruined FOREVER|reactions]] from the fandom. Oh well.&lt;br /&gt;
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