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Cliffjumper (G1)

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:''Cliffjumper is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Cliffjumperg1.jpg|right|300px|thumb|He's got a piece of paper that he claims contains a list of 200 known traitors.]]
Within '''Cliffjumper''' burns the [[spark]] of a hero and a dedicated Autobot. On the outside he's a paranoid, trigger-happy jerk with serious impulse-control problems. Cliffjumper utterly hates the [[Decepticon]]s. He also hates traitors. And anybody could be a traitor. Therefore, Cliffjumper hates everybody. It's unclear if he hates traitors more than he hates Decepticons, but it's at least a neck-and-neck thing.

He makes a habit of pulling [[Scale|ridiculously huge]] guns out of [[Exhaust port|nowhere]] and attacking impulsively despite orders or sanity. Somehow, this gets him neither killed nor demoted.

Cliffjumper's special weapon is his [[glass gas]], which embrittles metals on contact so that they shatter like glass. He is not immune to its effects, so its use requires careful consideration of wind direction. Actually, this may explain why he prefers the big guns. He doesn't seem like the calculating type.

{{quote|Look at Megatron. I'm gonna blast that smile off his faceplate.|Cliffjumper, raring to go|"[[The Ultimate Doom, Part 3]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
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[[Image:Cliffjumperuk.jpg|left|180px|thumb|Don't ask, don't tell, don't laugh.]]
Cliffjumper was a part of the crew on board the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while clearing an asteroid field in the path of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron.]] Upon reviving in 1984, Cliffjumper was chosen as part of the first field expedition into the world under [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s command. Their simple recon mission to a drive-in movie theatre quickly turned into a battle when the Decepticons arrived. Cliffjumper acquitted himself well in combat, single-handedly driving off [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] and [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] with his glass gas. {{storylink|The Transformers (issue)|The Transformers}}

Later, he joined [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] on the mission to rescue their human friend [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] from the Decepticons. Unfortunately, the human military got in the way, distracting Cliffjumper and [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] long enough for [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]'s [[Earthquake (event)|earthquakes]] to throw them for a loop. {{storylink|Prisoner of War!}} Whether because of this or just a general lack of fuel, Cliffjumper was unable to stand up and fight against the Decepticons in the battle at the Ark. {{storylink|The Last Stand}} He was deactivated for a while during [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s occupation of the Ark, but was repaired without incident when [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] reclaimed it for the crew. However, the head of Optimus Prime was still missing, and during an attempt to retrieve it, an impostor head took control of Prime's body, firing on Cliffjumper. {{storylink|Prime Time!}}

''Presumably repaired, he later participated in the Dinobot Hunt, along with [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]]. Although they found [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]], immediately thereafter all three were captured by the Decepticons. They were rescued by [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]. {{storylink|Dinobot Hunt!}}''

He was one of the observers to [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]]'s battle on the [[Moon (moon)|moon]]. How he fared in the following [[Decepticon]] attack is unknown, but he was never seen again. {{storylink|Totaled!}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
''After surviving the destruction of [[Moonbase One]], Cliffjumper returned to the Autobot combat movement on Cybertron by 2007. He joined [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] in a concerted effort to surprise a [[Airborne hunter squad|group of Decepticon skyraiders]], using [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] as bait to draw them in close for a crossfire. {{storylink|Wanted: Galvatron — Dead or Alive!}}''

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====''Classics''/''Shattered Glass''====
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After Cliffjumper was nearly killed by an [[Underbase]]-powered [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], the Autobots, lacking the resources on Earth to repair him, shipped his body to Cybertron, where he languished on life support for fifteen years. After the war, newly-freed resources allowed techs to revive him once again, though when he first woke up he immediately flatlined again when they told him the war was over. Consoled by the idea that some Decepticons were still left in the universe, Cliffjumper was sadly too late to join [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]]'s crew on the ''[[Graviton (Classics)|Graviton]]'', so when reports of [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]]'s return reached Cybertron, Cliffjumper was the first to join Optimus Prime in returning to Earth to vanquish him. {{storylink|Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 17|Cliffjumper's ''Classics'' profile}}

Cliffjumper and the Autobots encountered the dimension-hopping [[Velocitron|Velocitronian]] known as [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] shortly after he and the Decepticon [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]] crash-materialized in their universe. They traveled to the Southern Hemisphere to locate the source of a mysterious energy signature that resonated on the same wavelength as Skyfall's own emanations. The fact that Skyfall was traveling with a Decepticon, however inadvertently, set Cliffjumper's "traitor sense" a'tingling, setting them at odds with one another. Unfortunately for CJ, Prime assigned him to explore the energy site alone with Skyfall, away from the battle with the arriving Decepticons. They were the only two small enough to fit through the crevice the energy signals were coming from. Cliffjumper reluctantly agreed to keep an eye on Skyfall. With the battle raging overhead, a cave-in caused by [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]'s stomping around sent Landquake toppling into the caverns below. Eager for the chance to scrap a Decepticon, Cliffjumper gleefully leveled his pistol at Landquake as Skyfall tried to stop him. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 3}}

Protecting a 'Con was all the proof Cliffjumper needed to turn on Skyfall too, but another cave-in sent the robots tumbling deeper underground before anyone could get shot. Cliffjumper's leg was crushed under a falling boulder, but that didn't stop him from trying to blast the other two from where he lay on the ground. His shot disturbed the pool of [[Rarified Energon]] they landed next to, and awakened a curiously-similar robot known as [[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]]. Using his own unique abilities, the pacifistic Breakaway healed Cliffjumper's leg in moments just by laying hands on him. As the Decepticon Cassettes arrived in search of the energon, Cliffjumper and the others drove them back while retreating further into the caverns. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 4}}

Allowing a temporary cease fire due to the strangeness of the situation, Cliffjumper started looking for a way to protect the Rarified Energon from the robots he KNEW were evil. Skyfall accidentally triggered a secret passage, though, and he, Landquake and Breakaway felt compelled to respond to the voice of the "[[Caretaker]]" emanating from the passage, who claimed to speak for [[Primus]] himself. Cliffjumper felt the "purity" of the place as well, but his basic nature still warned him it could all be a trap. Skyfall pleaded with CJ to see the grandeur of their situation however and, after checking his WWOPD? bracelet, Cliffjumper agreed to follow them down the passage...once he "set something up" first. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 5}} The Caretaker spoke to Skyfall, Landquake and Breakaway about the greater destiny that awaited them on other worlds, and beckoned them to pass through the dimensional barriers to the next leg of their journey. Skyfall balked at the idea more than the others, but ultimately he and Cliffjumper passed through the dimensional space bridge together. Meanwhile, [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] arrived at the Rarified Energon pool and set off the laser-trip wire Cliffjumper had left behind, detonating the entrance and burying the chambers behind them. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 6}}

[[Image:SGOptimusShootsCliffjumper ShatteredGlass.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]

Cliffjumper was diverted away from his fellow travellers, and ended up in the "Shattered Glass" universe, where he was found by [[Ruckus (SG)|Ruckus]] and [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]]. They were surprised to see him, as [[Cliffjumper (SG)|the native Cliffjumper]] had been thought dead for some time. Rodimus took Cliffjumper to see [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]], who was pleased to see him and had him witness [[Rumble (SG)|Rumble]]'s execution. Cliffjumper was shocked and protested against the execution, which surprised and angered Optimus, as the native Cliffjumper had enjoyed killing prisoners. Prime blew several holes in Cliffjumper as punishment and had him dumped in the [[Rad Zone]], where he was discovered by [[Cyclonus (SG)|Cyclonus]], [[Scrapper (SG)|Scrapper]] and [[Long Haul (SG)|Long Haul]] and taken to the Decepticon base. There [[Scrapper (SG)|Scrapper]] and [[Hook (SG)|Hook]] repaired him and found he had numerous anomalies, thus discovering he was not this universe's Cliffjumper.

Towards the end of the repairs, Cliffjumper woke up and shoved the medics aside to escape, only to run into [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]] and [[Sideswipe (SG)|Sideswipe]]. Sideswipe explained that Cliffjumper likely was from another universe and elaborated on this universe's history; How the war started, what happened to this universe's Cliffjumper, and finally why Sideswipe had become a Decepticon.

Later, [[Starscream (SG)|Starscream]] and Megatron were discussing the [[Ark (SG)|''Ark'']]'s status, when Cliffjumper and Sideswipe walked into the room. Megatron informed Cliffjumper that Prime planned to use the ''Ark'' to conquer other worlds, and Cliffjumper exclaimed "By [[Primus]], he can't be allowed to do that!", leaving everyone confused. Cliffjumper then provided a highly condensed version of the Transformers' origins. Megatron thought that being created by a benevolent god was a comforting idea, but everyone else was amused by Cliffjumper's strange beliefs.

Starscream came up with a plan to use Cliffjumper's [[glass gas]] to weaken the ''Ark''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s launch platform, making it vulnerable to normal weapons. Cliffjumper agreed to help Starscream duplicate the formula as Megatron and the others planned the attack.

After [[Razorclaw (SG)|Razorclaw]] and [[Rampage (SG)|Rampage]] dispatched the Autobot guards, and Starscream, [[Divebomb (SG)|Divebomb]] and [[Whisper (SG)|Whisper]] dropped the "glass gas bombs" on the ''Ark'', Cliffjumper and the others attacked the launch platform. However, their weapons failed to destroy the platform, resulting in an all-out brawl between the two sides. When Optimus spotted Cliffjumper, he attempted to destroy the "traitor", but Megatron took the hit instead. This spurred Cliffjumper into destroying the launch platform. The Decepticons retreated, and Cliffjumper decided to go with them. {{storylink|Shattered Glass (issue)|Shattered Glass}}

Cliffjumper helped the Decepticons battle the Autobots for control of the [[Arch-Ayr]] fuel dump by firing large amounts of both artillery and insults at Optimus Prime, with his enthusiasm disturbing Starscream and Megatron. When [[Sir Soundwave|Soundwave]] called in the [[Mayhem Suppression Squad]], Cliffjumper helped the Squad succeed in forcing the Autobots to fall back.

Just then the ground started trembling and sent Cliffjumper sprawling. He accused [[Crasher (SG)|Crasher]] of doing it, but it was actually [[Wheeljack (SG)|Wheeljack]] and his army of [[Dinobot (SG)|Dinobots]], which Cliffjumper recognized.
[[Image:Cliffjumper&SGGoryu Dungeons&Dinobots.jpg|left|thumb|200px|There's always a bigger fish...]]
The Dinobots eventually turned on each other and scattered, and Cliffjumper was among those ordered by Megatron to capture some of them for reprogramming. He and Sideswipe located and subdued [[Slugfest (SG)|Slugfest]], only for the hulking [[Goryu (SG)|Goryu]] to come to Slugfest's aid. Cliffjumper jumped onto and rode Goryu as he chased after Sideswipe, eventually managing to trick Goryu into knocking himself out.

The two then noticed [[Huffer (SG)|Huffer]] on the horizon and cornered him. Sideswipe "convinced" Huffer to admit what he was up to by warning that Cliffjumper was insane because he believed in Primus. Huffer offered to talk if they gave him three [[energon cube|energon rods]], but Cliffjumper threatened him down to one. Huffer admitted he had been tracking Grimlock and where, then escaped from the two.

Sideswipe and Cliffjumper used the information to track Grimlock to an old bunker. Sideswipe was hesitant, since the area was where he had been ambushed and his universe's Cliffjumper had died, but Cliffjumper wasn't fazed by Sideswipe's guilt nor by possibly seeing his double's corpse.

While the two examined hieroglyphics just inside the bunker's entrance, [[Omega Terminus|a booming voice]] ordered them to get out. The two were more than willing to comply, but found they couldn't, as the tunnels around them had changed. They continued on their journey instead, and encountered several traps, one of which injured Cliffjumper's leg.

Later, the two met up with Rodimus and [[Blurr (SG)|Blurr]]. Cliffjumper and Rodimus tumbled into a hidden passage, activating yet another trap. Rodimus deactivated the trap before it could crush them by yanking out and using the spear that had become embedded in Cliffjumper's leg earlier. They were ejected into a room full of debris. Rodimus recognized they were in the Omega Terminus chambers, and told Cliffjumper they could use it to create their own army to take down Prime, but Cliffjumper wasn't interested. Rodimus then found a vial of [[scraplet]]s and offered to have Cliffjumper drink some. Cliffjumper was horrified, until Rodimus explained how scraplets worked as a healing potion, and took a swig to prove it. Cliffjumper reluctantly accepted some to heal his leg, and they escaped out a hatch.

They met back up with Blurr and Sideswipe on a narrow bridge overlooking a deep chasm. Rodimus tried again to recruit the others into a new team of [[Wrecker]]s, but was interrupted by the arrival of Grimlock, who explained he'd been guided there by a strange voice that didn't want the others there.

Omega Terminus started spinning and shot a bolt of energy at Grimlock, giving him an [[spark|ember]] and the ability to [[transformation|transform]]. After doing so, he started to explain their situation, but Cliffjumper grew impatient and challenged him. As a response, additional lights came from the Omega Terminus and reanimated four corpses, including [[Drench (SG)|Drench]] and the native Cliffjumper. Grimlock further explained the Omega Terminus' powers, and a battle ensued.

The corpses put up a fight, but the living Cliffjumper eventually destroyed his double's corpse by throwing scraplets at it. Rodimus then rammed the Cliffjumper corpse into another of the corpses, while Cliffjumper ripped off his dead twin's arm and used it to "infect" the Drench corpse. All of the corpses were quickly devoured by the scraplets and reduced to dust.

Grimlock then swept the four off a ledge, where they hung on for dear life. Blurr managed to distract Grimlock enough for Cliffjumper and Sideswipe to knock him off the cliff. They all pulled themselves back up, and the Terminus told them to leave, which they promptly did. {{storylink|Dungeons & Dinobots}}
[[Image:SGDemolishorHeatwaveCliffjumper DoOver.jpg|right|275px|thumb|Are you my "second Ego"? What a nasty sight!]]
A short time later, Megatron asked Sideswipe and Cliffjumper if the Dinocons' recently discovered transformation ability had something to do with their recent adventure, but they found they couldn't recall exactly what had happened.

The Decepticons then gathered to discuss Optimus Prime's latest plan: rebuilding the ''Ark'' for a second launch. This caused Cliffjumper to get upset, thinking all of his hard work had been for nothing. Megatron reassured him that, on the contrary, it had been valuable, and had given them enough time to build the ''[[Nemesis (SG)|Nemesis]]'' as a counter to the ''Ark''. When Sideswipe asked why he was so bothered, Cliffjumper explained that he was used to the enemy leader always thinking up ''new'' plans.

Megatron appointed Cliffjumper as the mech for all ''Nemesis'' crew volunteers to report to, as he was already familiar with [[Earth]]. Among the troops he interviewed was [[Demolishor (SG)|Demolishor]], who gave him pause, since he'd never seen the Decepticon before. Demolishor retorted that Cliffjumper might not have known ''everyone'' on his home planet. After hearing that Demolishor wanted to bust up Autobots and figured Earth must be better than Cybertron, Cliffjumper let him through. But when he found himself dealing next with [[Heatwave (Timelines)|Heatwave]], another Decepticon he'd never heard of before, Cliffjumper gave up and waved him on without an interview.

Later, when the Decepticons received word of [[Ricochet (SG)|Ricochet]] kidnapping Megatron, Starscream wanted to mount a full raid. Cliffjumper told him that, while it felt weird being responsible instead of running off himself, they needed to instead send a small task force, as prepping and launching the ''Nemesis'' was top priority. Starscream reluctantly agreed.

Cliffjumper was onboard the ''Nemesis'' when it eventually followed the ''Ark'' to Earth, and aided in the resulting firefight. When they were hit by a nuke from the [[human]]s, Cliffjumper was amazed by Heatwave's ability to "talk" to their damaged ship afterwards. He then volunteered to remain with Starscream while everyone else escaped, in order to steer the crash-landing ship away from any major population centers. {{storylink|Do Over}}

Cliffjumper and Starscream survived the crash intact, and were found by Heatwave, Soundwave, [[Frenzy (SG)|Frenzy]], [[Ravage (SG)|Ravage]], and [[Professor Arkeville|some]] [[Will Hayes|humans]] [[Rick Ottman|who had discovered]] [[Sephie Beller|the ''Nemesis'']]. As they all discussed their current situation, Cliffjumper was suspicious of the humans—especially Arkeville, who bothered him for some reason he couldn't place. He was also confused by the absence of [[California]], which caused Arkeville to be fascinated by learning Cliffjumper hailed from another universe, and explain about the hard times his own universe had been through.

When Starscream figured that the Autobots had bought it and they should concentrate on going home, Cliffjumper was skeptical and wanted to be absolutely sure. Starscream decided he was right, and then sent Cliffjumper out with the others to look for their crewmembers. When Cliffjumper found [[Crasher (SG)|Crasher]]'s [[stasis pod]] in a junkyard, he booted her back online, and became very flustered when part of their conversation afterwards involved him trying to explain his unfamiliarity with [[Female Transformer|fembots]].

After Rodimus broadcast a message saying he was holding the Earth hostage with their own [[Global Orbiting Defense Satellite|defense satellite]], Cliffjumper helped with the mission to liberate the [[Burpleson Air Force Base|hijacked base]] and satellite. He mediated the brainstorming about the information from the initial scouting mission, then set everyone to their respective parts of the resulting plan, remaining with the group outside as others infiltrated the base.

When the base was evacuated and destroyed due to Heatwave turning the satellite on it, Cliffjumper comforted the larger mech, who was mournful that he had to also destroy the transmitter. {{storylink|Eye in the Sky}}

After rescuing [[Blitzwing (SG)|Blitzwing]] from the Autobots and their new [[Stellar Spanner]], Cliffjumper wondered why Blitzwing hadn't been captured or killed after they incapacitated him. Blitzwing revealed that he had fused with an [[oPod]] and disrupted them with its signal, and Cliffjumper found Arkeville's comparison to human bodies being able to make bone out of coral to be creepy.

As Blitzwing's new disruptive signal ability eventually spread from the Autobots' emergency frequency to the Decepticons', Cliffjumper was irritated that his normal-universe Autobot emergency frequency just happened to be the same as the Decepticons' in this universe. When Starscream suggested everyone but Soundwave (who was unaffected) going into emergency [[stasis lock]] to protect them from being damaged by the signal, and the humans protecting them until Soundwave could find Blitzwing and cure his broadcasting, Cliffjumper was paranoid about both ideas, but his concerns were overruled.

When Soundwave was successful and everything was back to normal, Cliffjumper was also glad that they could now build their own [[space bridge|space brid]]... er... Stellar Spanner, with the schematics Blitzwing had stolen. {{storylink|Blitzwing Bop}}

Once the Decepticons got their Stellar Spanner working, they were joined on Earth by [[Shockwave (SG)|Shockwave]], whom Cliffjumper was surprised to learn was interested in hearing more about [[Primus]]. Cliffjumper attended an unveiling ceremony with the other Decepticons as [[R.J. Blackrock]] presented his new [[Mega-Rig]], and got an opportunity to fight the Autobots when they attacked it. When Sephie Beller had herself augmented with Cybertronian technology, Cliffjumper announced he'd seen this [[Circuit Breaker|happen before]] and they needed to stick Sephie in cryo so they could work on a cure. She went off to fight the Autobots on her own, and Cliffjumper stopped Rick from going after her, suggesting they build a [[Nebulan]]-esque exosuit for the boy first.

A team of Decepticons, plus Cliffjumper, went to try and help Sephie, but instead found themselves captured by the Autobots. Bound, they only avoided being terminated when Blackrock arrived in his [[Centurion (SG)|Centurion]] battle mech and started attacking the Autobots. Unfortunately Blackrock also regarded the Decepticons as viable targets, and Cliffjumper's leg was damaged by stray fire. Sephie freed Cliffjumper, knowing he'd feel compelled to unchain his comrades rather than stop her from going after Blackrock. He was forced to concede and began releasing Starscream. Sephie, meanwhile, put the Centurion into overload and flew it a safe distance, saving Cliffjumper and the Decepticons. Back at base, he apologized for doubting her and said she would have a place on the Decepticon team if she wanted it, thought she turned it down. {{storylink|Transhuman}}

Months later, Cliffjumper was present at the Decepticon base when Landquake, Breakaway, [[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]] and [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]] arrived with Skyfall's corpse. He said that, though he never thought he'd say such to a Decepticon, he was glad to see Landquake, and the feeling seemed to be mutual. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 4}}

After Landquake and his gestalt members were reborn into [[Nexus Prime]], Nexus offered to take Cliffjumper along on the next leg of his interdimensional journey, but Cliffjumper decided to stay and continue fighting the evil Optimus Prime instead. He bid the Landquake and Skyfall parts of Nexus Prime goodbye as the gestalt stepped through the Decepticons' Stellar Spanner. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 6}}
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===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Casey Kasem]] (English), [[Takurō Kitagawa]] (Japanese), [[Carlos Nieto]] (Latin American, TV Series), [[Juan Cuadra]] (Latin American, Movie)

Cliffjumper was a part of the crew onboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago during a search for new energy sources. His [[alternate mode]] was reformatted into an oddly proportioned Porsche 924 Turbo.

[[Image:Cliffgun.JPG|right|250px|thumb|"Where do you keep that giant cannon, Cliffjumper?!"<br> "None of your damn business, Hound."]]
When the Autobots awakened from their four million-year slumber, Cliffjumper was eager for action. He volunteered to tag along on [[Hound (G1)|Hound]]'s recon mission to scout out Decepticons because he was itching to "boot some Decepticon right in his [[turbocharger]]". Though [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]]'s orders were only to find the Decepticons, Cliffjumper brashly tried to engage the enemy once Hound sniffed them out.

Cliffjumper missed his shot, and the Decepticons dispatched [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] to chase off the Autobot eavesdroppers. Hound got pasted by Laserbeak's laser blasts and ended up requiring extensive repair from Autobot medic [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] after being pulled out of a ditch by [[Hauler]]. It worked out in the end, though, since Cliffjumper was remorseful for having acted without thinking, and Hound didn't hold a grudge anyway. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}

[[Image:Hufferg1animated.jpg|thumb|left|200px|]]
Cliffjumper was among the Autobots that stormed [[Sherman Dam]] to fight off the Decepticons. During the siege, Cliffjumper charged at [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] and was easily overpowered until [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] came to his aid. Cliffjumper complimented his pacifist friend on his fighting skills. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 2}} Later, when Optimus Prime was injured in an explosion at the [[ruby crystal mines of Burma]], Cliffjumper cheered his leader on as Prime tried to recover from his injuries. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 3}}

Cliffjumper mistook a rock formation for a Decepticon and fired at it, nearly smooshing [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] and Optimus Prime in the resulting avalanche. Embarrassed, the little hothead admitted his mistake and apologized, while Ironhide scoffed at the notion that the Decepticons were still on Earth. But the Decepticons ''were'' still on Earth, and they took over a human power station. Alerted to the attack by a city-wide blackout, Cliffjumper and the Autobots responded. Cliffjumper immediately confronted [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and declared he’d “take care” of the Decepticon leader. Megatron swatted him away like a fly. Cliffjumper obviously didn’t learn his lesson, since he took on [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] only moments later, with similar results. {{storylink|Transport to Oblivion}}

[[Image:FireintheSky Cliffjumper vs Ravage.jpg|thumb|right|240px|Ravage heartily disapproves of Cliffjumper's operatic solo.]]
During a mission to the Arctic to stop the Decepticons, Cliffjumper was the first to hear [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]] and [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]] calling for help after the father-and-son team were trapped on an ice floe. Before the Autobots could get to them, the humans were scooped up by [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]], who was a bit confused about which faction was good or evil. When Cliffjumper and Ironhide made moves to rescue the pair, Optimus Prime stopped them, fearing the humans would be hurt. Opting for an underground rescue, Cliffjumper joined Prime, [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], and [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] in an ice cave and was the first to discover the humans in an icy prison. After, as the Autobots tried to find Ironhide’s team, Cliffjumper pointedly defied Prime's order to stick to a search pattern and ran on ahead. He was promptly tackled by [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], and Optimus had to rescue him. The Autobots regrouped while Ratchet tried to repair Skyfire after an attack by Starscream. When Cliffjumper questioned the wisdom of repairing the large Decepticon, Hound and Ratchet explained that Skyfire had tried to help them. {{storylink|Fire in the Sky}}

[[Image:TUD1 Cliffjumper depth gauge.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Are you picking up a signal, or just happy to see me?]]
After the construction of the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], Cliffjumper was present for the unveiling, and found himself being battered by the new creations as they ran wild. {{storylink|S.O.S. Dinobots}} He also took part in the mission in [[Peru]] to stop Megatron from using the [[Crystal of Power]] as an energy source for a cannon. {{storylink|Fire on the Mountain}} After Sparkplug was kidnapped by Laserbeak, Cliffjumper, [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] burrowed under [[Decepticon Headquarters (G1 Earth)|Decepticon HQ]]. Cliffjumper used his glass gas to make a hole in the underside of the base, so the three Autobots could retrieve Sparkplug and hightail it back to Autobot Headquarters. Unfortunately the Decepticons had already planted a [[hypno-chip]] on Sparkplug, and during the next Decepticon attack, Cliffjumper and the other Autobots discovered that their weapons had been sabotaged. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 1}}

[[Image:TUD3 bloodthirsty Cliffjumper.jpg|thumb|right|220px|]]
When the Autobots caught up with Megatron, who was preparing to take energy back to Cybertron — energy collected as a result of Cybertron being pulled into Earth's orbit by the [[space bridge]] — Cliffjumper was raring to exact some payback, but Optimus restrained him as they couldn't risk injuring the hypno-chipped humans. Once the humans were safely out of the way, the Autobots attacked, though Ironhide had to remind Cliffjumper to conserve some ammo for later in the fight. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 3}} Some time later, Cliffjumper congratulated [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] for getting [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]] repaired (again!), only for the computer to detect the Decepticons on the move. The Autobots started the pursuit and, after a brief stop in a quicksand trap, reached [[Doctor Arkeville]]'s secret lab, where Starscream had rigged the [[Exponential Generator]] to explode. {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (episode)|Countdown to Extinction}}

[[Image:ChangingGears Cliffjumper hits forcefield.jpg|thumb|230px|left]]
When Ironhide detected Megatron inbound to Autobot Headquarters, Cliffjumper blasted the Decepticon with glass gas, but Megatron merely shrugged it off. Megatron challenged Prime to one-on-one combat and, despite Cliffjumper's misgivings, Prime accepted. Cliffjumper turned out with the rest of the Autobots to spectate, and was horrified when Optimus lost. When they returned to Headquarters, a quick scan by Teletraan I revealed the truth — Megatron had cheated. The Autobots subsequently blasted the Decepticons into a lava-filled crevasse. {{storylink|Heavy Metal War}} After the Decepticons began using a [[Solar Needle]] to tap into the Sun, the Earth became unstable. Cliffjumper was saved from a falling boulder by Ironhide. The Autobots drove to [[Africa]] where they discovered that the needle was protected by an energy field. Despite the others' protests, Cliffjumper flung himself into the force field, shorting it out. He recovered a short time later in the jungle nearby, and rejoined the fight which eventually resulted in the destruction of the Solar Needle and rescue of [[Gears (G1)|Gears]]. {{storylink|Changing Gears}}

[[Image:Traitorcjaccusesmirage.jpg|right|270px|thumb|"J'accuse!"]]
Soon afterward, Cliffjumper made a very public display of his paranoia by accusing fellow Autobot and reluctant soldier [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] of being a traitor on some very flimsy evidence, much to the (correct) disbelief of the other Autobots. He kept up his rhetoric even after Optimus Prime ordered him to can it. So determined was he to prove his theory true that he followed Mirage when the latter returned to the Decepticon power station to sow seeds of discontent within the Decepticon ranks. Fortunately, in the end, it was proven that Mirage was a loyal Autobot all along, and Cliffjumper fell across Mirage's body, asking Ratchet to fix him for not trusting a comrade. This prompted a rather awkward laugh from the other Autobots present. {{storylink|Traitor}}

Cliffjumper was the first to ask what the [[Wheeljack Instant Immobilizer|Immobilizer]] did as Wheeljack prepared a demonstration. Unfortunately the test was aborted when Ironhide mistook the holographic Laserbeak for the real thing. The second demonstration didn't go much better, resulting in Wheeljack himself being immobilizer, and the Decepticons stealing the device. Gears and Cliffjumper loaded Wheeljack into Ratchet for the return trip to Headquarters, and were both among the Autobots who later attempted to get the Immobilizer back. {{storylink|The Immobilizer}} Cliffjumper took part in an Autobot charity event, racing and participating in stunts. The Decepticons took the opportunity to test out their [[Transfixatron]] on the Autobots, locking them all in their vehicle modes before forcing them to drive to a ghost town. A small group of Autobots along with [[Chip Chase]] and Spike, came to the rescue, using a grenade to undo the transformation lock. Though the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] formed [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], Cliffjumper immediately attacked the Combiner, and was tossed into a nearby building. He and Wheeljack teamed up to seize the Transfixatron and use it on Devastator, resulting in the Constructicons splitting apart and sending the Decepticons into a retreat. {{storylink|The Autobot Run}}

[[Image:EntertheNightbird Cliffjumper glass gas.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Happiness is a warm gun.]]
While the other Autobots were constructing [[detection plate]]s, Cliffjumper ran up to Optimus with the news there was an incoming call from [[Doctor Fujiyama the Famous Scientist]]. The Autobots ended up guarding [[Nightbird (G1)|Nightbird]], the ninja robot that the doctor had built. During the inevitable Decepticon attack, Cliffjumper lost no time in blasting [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] once all of the humans were safely out of the way. Nightbird was still stolen and sometime later, the reprogrammed ninja broke into Autobot HQ to steal the [[World Energy Chip]]. The Autobots pursued, though Optimus had to restrain Cliffjumper from merely blasting Nightbird, as they'd promised to return her safely to her inventor. Also, Cliffjumper proved the only Autobot who failed to jump up a particular cliff. When they eventually cornered the ninja, Cliffjumper attempted to use his glass gas on her, only for her to plug the nozzle. They eventually did manage to capture her and return her to Dr Fujiyama. {{storylink|Enter the Nightbird}}

[[Image:DinobotIsland2 Cliffjumper firing.jpg|thumb|right|200px|(Bang Bang Shoot Shoot)]]
When the Autobots found a crevasse filled with [[korlonium crystal|glowing crystals]], Cliffjumper was prepared to jump straight in, but Prime cautioned him to take readings first. As it happened, the Decepticons picked that time to attack. The Autobots returned to base following a seemingly victorious battle, but soon discovered a conundrum — they had two identical Optimus Primes. Cliffjumper had the bright idea to decide which one was the real Optimus by holding a race, which unsurprisingly proved inconclusive. {{storylink|A Prime Problem}} The discovery of [[Dinobot Island (G1)|an island full of dinosaurs]] by Bumblebee and [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] led Cliffjumper to exclaim that they already had enough problems with Dino''bots''. Wheeljack claimed he'd been teaching Grimlock some finesse, and attempted to prove Cliffjumper wrong by getting [[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Grimlock]] to show off. When this turned into the usual Dinobot chaos, Cliffjumper was all too ready to fight them, but Optimus got things under control. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 1}} The Decepticons found Dinobot Island and began draining its energy, which caused freak time portals to open up across the world. A pirate ship that passed through one such portal menaced a small pleasure ship, until Cliffjumper, [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] and [[Seaspray (G1)|Seaspray]] arrived. Cliffjumper disarmed the pirates before they shoved the ship back through the time portal. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 2}}

[[Image:MasterBuilders Cliffjumper glass gas gun.jpg|thumb|left|240px|Now it's a different color and comes out of a gun. So? It's sparkly!]]
During a battle with Devastator after the Constructions helped [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] and [[Grapple]] build the [[Solar Power Tower]], Cliffjumper fired his glass gas gun at the giant. Devastator merely swept his arm, causing a wind which dissipated the burst of gas. After the battle, Cliffjumper helped dig Grapple and Hoist out of the pile of rubble that their tower had become. {{storylink|The Master Builders}} He later took part in an excursion to [[South America]], where Megatron had found the [[Heart of Cybertron]]. Unfortunately they arrived too late — Megatron had installed the crystal in himself. Though Cliffjumper initiated a charge, the Autobots were no match for the powered-up Decepticon leader. They retreated under a smokescreen and limped back to Headquarters. {{storylink|Microbots}}

Cliffjumper took part in an [[Autobot Day]] parade organised by the humans in [[Central City (Earth)|Central City]], paying a visit to city hall. Things quickly turned sour when a video recording of the Autobots apparently raiding an oil field was played, and the humans turned hostile. The Autobots returned to Headquarters, but while they were still trying to work out what was going on, the mayor turned up to arrest them. Though Cliffjumper was ready to fight, Optimus insisted they comply with the humans' demands. Taken to a sports stadium, the Autobots were put on impromptu trial, which concluded with them being found guilty and sentenced to exile from Earth. They were duly shot into space in a spaceship supplied by [[Shawn Berger]]. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1}} On further reflection, Optimus decided he'd made a hasty decision, and Cliffjumper tried to turn the ship around, only to find it was locked on course for the Sun. They escaped the ship in the nick of time, using Trailbreaker's forcefields linked to [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] so they could return to Earth and exact some revenge on the Decepticons. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2}}

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All of the Autobots, including Cliffjumper, were rendered inoperative by [[Cybertonium]] depletion, until Spike, [[Carly]] and the Dinobots retrieved a fresh supply from Cybertron. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2}} Cliffjumper's audio receptors took a pounding when [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] decided to retransmit a rock concert over Autobot frequencies. {{storylink|Blaster Blues}} He was also present when the Autobots discovered that Optimus was heading to Cybertron [[Female Autobots|for some reason]], but opted not to join Ironhide's pursuit. {{storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}}

Cliffjumper and Jazz attended the opening of an [[Optimus Prime memorial]], resulting in Cliffjumper getting his name mangled by the news reporter covering the event. The memorial was attacked by Starscream and his newly minted [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]]s. As they overwhelmed the two Autobots, Cliffjumper suggested radioing for help, but too late, as they were both captured. Stripped of their [[energy absorber]]s to provide parts for the Combaticons, Jazz and Cliffjumper were chained up at the [[Amalgamated Water and Power Plant]]. The Autobots later rescued them while the Combaticons were occupied fighting [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] and the rest of Megatron's forces. {{storylink|Starscream's Brigade}}

[[Image:TFTM Cliffjumper countdown.jpg|thumb|left|240px|Such are Jazz's hidden political passion…]]
By 2005, the Decepticons had retaken Cybertron, and the Autobots had set up secret bases on Cybertron's moons. Cliffjumper was stationed on [[Moonbase One]] under Optimus Prime's command. He and Jazz stayed behind while Optimus took the Dinobots to reinforce [[Autobot City]], and they were first to spot the approach of [[Unicron]]. Unicron began to devour the moon and, after a hasty communique to Autobot City, the pair tried to escape in a ship. The attempt proved futile, and the ship was dragged back into Unicron's maw. Jazz and Cliffjumper somehow ended up on a conveyor headed for a vat of acid, along with Spike and Bumblebee, but all four of them were saved by Spike's son [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel]]. As Unicron began to break apart under the energies released from the [[Matrix of Leadership]], the newly risen Autobot leader, [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]], led the Autobots on an escape through the massive Transformer's eye. Cliffjumper survived the adventure and Rodimus's subsequent speech, but for [[Casey Kasem#Notes|some reason]] was never seen again. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}

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====Japanese cartoon continuity====
=====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic=====
[[Image:Fsrlf cliffy and ironhide.jpg|right|thumb|Comic Sans? Really? Is that really the best they could come up with?]]
While the majority of the Autobots were occupied dealing with a Decepticon attack upon Autobot Headquarters, Cliffjumper was part of a small team searching [[Japan]] for [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] and his [[Decepticon Mini-Cassette|cassettes]], who were conspicuous by their absence from the assault. [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] and [[Kenji]] found the Decepticon communicator first, but Bumblebee was able to get the drop on him and shattered his chest door with a "Bumble Kick". Cliffjumper and [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] then arrived to take care of the cassettes, who cut their losses and tried to take refuge in Soundwave's chest compartment, only to find that they couldn't get in through the broken door. Cliffjumper snatched them up, and being the big jerk that he is, pulled out their tape spools and wrapped them around his fingers. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 2|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #2}}

=====''Full Throttle Scramble Power!'' comic=====
After the Decepticons' latest plan, involving their [[Omega Whip]] cannon, was foiled, Cliffjumper was among the massive Autobot platoon that arrived at the villains base with [[Metroplex (G1)|Scramble City]] to give them a well-deserved pummelling. {{storylink|Full Throttle Scramble Power!}}

=====''The Stargate Battles'' comic=====
Cliffjumper was part of the Autobot batallion who battled the Decepticons in space for control of the [[Warp gate|interstellar teleportation system]] known as the [[Trigger]]. During the battle, [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] fused with the Trigger, transforming into a massive, monstrous robot form determined to wipe out Autobots and Decepticons. A combination of Optimus Prime and Megatron's power defeated the treacherous Decepticon, but all the Transformers were caught in the backwash of the colossal explosion that resulted, and were left injured and inactive for many months. {{storylink|The Battle of the Star Gate|The Stargate Battles}}

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=====''Alternity''=====
[[Image:Alternity_cliffjumper_boxart.jpg|left|thumb|220px]]

In 2005, thanks to the actions of a space-and-time-traveling being known as [[Optimus Primal|the Protector]], a parallel universe was created that branched out of this timeline. In this parallel world, dubbed [[universal stream]] Primax 903.0 Beta, technological advancements eventually caused the Autobots to evolve into the cross-dimensional super-race known as the [[Alternity (species)|Alternity]]. Cliffjumper, however, declined the offer to become a member of the Alternity, as he could not be bothered dealing the troublesome complexities of hyperdimensional life. Instead, Cliffjumper joined the ranks of the Alternity's elite force of Protectors, taking on a new body of the same model used by Bumblebee's [[auto-avatar]]. Cliffjumper was assigned the task of aiding in the suppression of the Alternity's arch-enemy, the time-eating god-beast [[Hytherion]], in the distant past, in regions of time beyond the reach of the Alternity themselves.

Learning that Hytherion's next goal was to consume a galaxy at the moment of its birth 2.4 billion years in the past, Cliffjumper was dispatched back in time to safeguard the lives of all the beings that would be erased from time if the galaxy was destroyed. Arriving before Hytherion, Cliffjumper did not have long to wait before the beast materialized before him. Overcoming his fear at the terrifying sight of the giant creature by remembering that Hytherion's strength was not determined by his size, Cliffjumper used his wave-functional pointer-guns to mark Hytherion's location with markers that transmitted co-ordinates back through time to the Alternity in the future. Using these signal pointers, the Alternity targeted an incredible space-time weapon on the beast, which they triggered at Cliffjumper's signal. The lights and gases of space coalesced into a breathtaking "sword of the heavens" that slashed into Hytherion and then wrapped around it, dispelling the beast from that time period. Although elated over the victory, Cliffjumper remarked to himself that the Alternity were still full of it, but if he could pull the trigger on a weapon like that, he'd probably be full of it too.

Some time later, the revived Megatron was able to shackle the Hytherion's power and confer abilities like those of the Alternity upon himself. The idea that the Alternity's war might be shifting back to the traditional "Autobot vs. Decepticon" status quo was considered great news by Cliffjumper. {{storylink|Ace of Swords}}
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===Marvel Books Big Looker Storybook continuity===
[[Image:KidsCliff1.jpg|right|180px|thumb|The Adventures of Scary Eyes and Awesome Car!]]
One day, a bunch of [[human]]s held a rally race for which first prize would be a year's supply of oil and gasoline. Rather than follow their usual tack, attempting to cheat their way to the fuel, the Decepticons decided to sneak into the race simply for the sake of giving the Autobots a thrashing. Cliffjumper was one of the Autobots driving in the rally, and he was unaware that the scary black Cadillac was actually being driven by Megatron until he tried to pass it. Megatron dogged the Minibot for quite a while, until a telephone pole-wielding Optimus Prime swatted the Decepticon leader out of the race. Cliffjumper won the race and everybody smiled, even Optimus Prime. {{storylink|The Great Car Rally}}

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===Dreamwave comics continuity===
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Cliffjumper was active during the [[Dark Ages]] on Cybertron, when [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] were missing and the two armies had split up into multiple smaller factions. He was working primarily with [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s contingent of soldiers. He accompanied Prowl's team out to the [[Praetorus Wharf]] in search of [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]], only to discover they were driving over him. {{storylink|Devastation}} Still in vehicle mode, he was knocked over during the initial salvo, and [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] had to right him. After the arrival of Autobot reinforcements, they tried to concentrate their firepower, only for Trypticon to up and leave as he had other orders. {{storylink|Revelation (The Dark Ages)|Revelation}}

Cliffjumper was a part of the crew on-board the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'' when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while clearing an asteroid in the path of Cybertron. He was one of many Transformers captured and reprogrammed by arms dealer [[Lazarus|Adam 'Lazarus' Rook]] for lease to terrorist organizations and shady governments requiring brutal military might. Fortunately, Autobots under the command of Optimus Prime repaired and re-reprogrammed Cliffjumper and the remaining captive Autobots. Immediately, they were put to work on fighting Megatron's metallic virus, which had spread deep into [[Canada|Canadian]] territory, using their own internal power as the anti-virus. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 5|Prime Directive #5}}

As Cliffjumper collapsed into the snow out of exhaustion, the Canadian military arrived. Unfortunately, due to the recent attacks by both enslaved Autobots and Decepticons under the command of Rook, the Canadians attempted to stop the Autobots doing what they perceived to be an attack on their soil. Knowing that the virus fed upon weapons fire, Cliffjumper tried to stop a tank crew from causing further harm by bending the tank's main gun. The commander panicked, thinking Cliffjumper was attacking, and fired, destroying himself and seriously damaging the Autobot. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 6|Prime Directive #6}}

''When the U.S. military attacked the Autobots and Decepticons at a staged ambush in the Nevada desert, Cliffjumper was among the soldiers present. He took semi-critical damage from the [[deconstructionite]] attack, losing a great deal of available processing power to the weaponized nanites employed by the armed forces, and had to be carted away to safety inside Prime's trailer. {{storylink|Fusion (novel)|Fusion}}''

Sometime later, the unified Cybertronian army arrived on Earth and demanded the surrender of all active Autobots and Decepticons. After the initial encounter left several Autobots damaged, Optimus Prime brought most of his crew back to the ''Ark'' for repairs while Prowl organized a small detachment for reconnaissance purposes. Cliffjumper and Mirage were teamed together for the recon assignment, but were captured by [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and his contingent of soldiers. Mirage gave up without a fight, eager to return home to Cybertron, which led Cliffjumper to declare him a traitor to the Autobot cause (deja vu... rising...). {{storylink|Brothers' Burden}}

Still, they settled their differences once Mirage saved him from [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] during the uprising on Cybertron. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}}

Following the Autobot takeover of Cybertron, Cliffjumper was assigned to the shuttle ''[[Orion]]'' under [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]'s command, bringing supplies back to [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and his troops on Earth. Their routine mission was almost immediately interrupted by one of [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s rogue creations, the super-clone known as [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]] who was engaging Autobot and Decepticon alike on Earth. {{storylink|Night of the Combaticons}} Cliffjumper worked loyally under Bumblebee's command during this endeavor, participating in [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] and [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]'s plans to disable the solar-powered Decepticon, but missed out on the final battle because he was attending to the injured [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]. {{storylink|Atonement}}

===IDW ''Hearts of Steel'' comics===
Cliffjumper, who appeared to transform into some sort of ankylosaurid, was seen by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s side as the Autobots waged battle against the Decepticons on prehistoric Earth. When an approaching ice age came close to deactivating both sides, further combat was deemed unwise, and the Autobots went into hiding deep underground. They remained in stasis until the mid-19th century, at which point the battles with the Decepticons flared up again, though Cliffjumper was not seen partaking in any of the action. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 1|Hearts of Steel #1}}

===Devil's Due ''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers'' comics===
Cliffjumper was aboard the ''Ark'' when it crashed on Earth in the past, and lay dormant when it was discovered by [[Cobra]] in the present. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 1|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #1}} The terrorist organization subsequently reprogrammed the Transformers to serve them, [[reformatting]] Cliffjumper into a Cobra vehicle in the process. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #2}} Luckily, [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] eventually undid the reprogramming, freeing Autobot and Decepticon alike. As the factions continued their war on [[Cobra Island]], Cliffjumper helped [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] and [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] fight [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] and [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 5|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #5}}

Years later, having returned to Cybertron, Cliffjumper was part of an Autobot team led by [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], waiting for a chance to beat up [[Serpent O.R.]] and his Decepticon army. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 4|The Art of War #4}} When that chance came, the team fought the Decepticons alongside [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]], eventually defeating them. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 5|The Art of War #5}}

===''Transformers Legends'' anthology===
Cliffjumper was assigned with Ironhide to be Starscream's escorts, after the Decepticon became amnesiac and fell in with the Autobots. He got the opportunity to use his glass-gas gun against Megatron and the Decepticons who turned up to reclaim Starscream. Later on, Starscream regained his memory and rejoined the Decepticons, prompting Cliffjumper to assert that you can't trust a Decepticon. {{storylink|Redemption Center}}

===IDW comics continuity===
Cliffjumper was seen mourning [[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]] and [[Fastback (G1)|Fastback]] at the Security Services HQ in [[Kaon]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3|Megatron Origin #3}}

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As the war spread across Cybertron, Cliffjumper embraced the path of a warrior as few other Autobots did. He became a weapons expert, skilled in both ranged and melee combat. His skills earned him a dubious role as an assassin, but it was a job he took to easily. On one occasion, he broke into a Decepticon outpost and executed the ranking commander, along with five other warriors who got in his way. As his ship was damaged during his escape, Cliffjumper was forced down on an undeveloped world to hide out and wait for back-up.

While securing his position, Cliffjumper met a young innocent farm girl named [[Kita (G1)|Kita]], and her little brother [[Coll]]. Kita marveled at the metal man she had discovered, and Cliffjumper was quite taken with her as well. He told her he was one of the good guys, but had to gloss over the details of his job when she said "there is no greater evil" than to hurt another being. With nothing else to do while waiting for transport home, Cliffjumper helped out around the farm, and grew quite close with Kita and Coll. The Decepticons eventually found him, however, and Cliffjumper was forced to resume his role as a warrior. He killed three 'Cons before they even knew he was there, but had to reveal himself when the lead Decepticon took Kita and Coll hostage. Despite Cliffjumper's willing surrender, the Decepticon still struck down Kita, and Cliffjumper rushed Coll and the dying Kita to temporary safety in the barn as the Decepticons' reinforcements arrived. With Kita dead and Coll secured...Cliffjumper no longer had any reason to hold back. He killed at least seven Decepticons before hijacking their ship. Before he left, Cliffjumper brought Coll to a new family and buried Kita, leaving flowers on her grave and banging her tombstone into place with the severed head of one of his enemies. {{storylink|Spotlight: Cliffjumper}}

After the [[Expansion]] battles, Cliffjumper came to Earth with several other Autobots as reinforcements for Optimus Prime and the crew of the ''Ark-19'' who had been stationed there. Acting on intelligence reports, they entered a deep canyon and were ambushed by the Decepticons. Cliffjumper was one of the bots to rally against the Decepticons and start turning the tide—until [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] turned up and slagged them all. The defeated Autobots were banished to Cybertron through a one-way space bridge after the battle. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7}} The Autobots were trapped on their home planet afterwards, watching over the critically wounded Optimus Prime while desperately searching for some traces of energon to keep him and themselves alive. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 1}} They had little to occupy themselves with during downtime, and often resorted to telling old war stories to keep up the faith. {{storylink|Spotlight: Jazz}}

[[Image:AHM4CliffjumperConsole.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Ha-ppi-ness, ha-ppi-ness...]]

Cliffjumper proved just how desperate he was for a good rumble when he spent hours staring at a screen on the off chance of an emergency, then got excited over a signal that lasted 1/100th of a second! Taking a ticked off Ironhide along for the ride, he found the suspected threat... which turned out to be [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]]. Neither Cliffjumper or Ironhide realized this before the big guy decked Roddy. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 4}} Joining up with Hot Rod and the crew of the ''Trion'', Cliffjumper and the others began to trek towards the fallen ship and its energon supply. When fleeing from [[Insecticon swarm|the Swarm]], he helped hold them off while riding Hound, who was in his jeep mode. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 8}} The convoy eventually made it to the barracks where Kup and the ''Trion'' crew had been squatting. While Mirage talked of giving up, Cliffjumper just expressed his satisfaction at having weapons again. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 9}} Cliffjumper fought the raging Swarm when they got over the other bridge (that had not been bombed by the late Sunstreaker), and was close to losing until the ''very'' timely intervention of [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]. He went with the other Autobots to Earth. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 10}} Then, on Earth, when the Autobots retreated from the Decepticon attack, he corrected a deluded [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] by saying that they weren't running away, that they were making room—making room for Omega, who promptly slagged Devastator. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 11}} He survived the great battle. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 12}}

[[Image:NewArrivalsOldEncounters_Cliffjumper.jpg|thumb|250px|The obama administration just declared Cliffjumper is a racist]]

Two years later, the Autobots were left in disarray when Optimus Prime surrendered himself to [[Skywatch]], leaving them leaderless. When the Autobots decided to hold nominations for the new leader, Cliffjumper stated that he planned to nominate himself. Despite what was surely a vigorous campaign that lasted all of five minutes, Cliffjumper was one-upped by Bumblebee, who was surprisingly elected the new Autobot leader by a majority of the voters. {{storylink|New Arrivals, Old Encounters}} He was among the troops who lined up when [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] dropped by to investigate Prime's surrender, and had to remind Bumblebee that he was supposed be in charge. {{storylink|A Rude Awakening}} After Bumblebee organized an alliance with [[Gordon Horiuchi]], a rogue Skywatch officer, Cliffjumper helped captured [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] for the humans. However, when Horiuchi revealed that their next target was [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]], he got ticked off and made it perfectly clear that they weren't capturing any of their fellow Autobots for Skywatch. In response, Horiuchi used the Skywatch badge given to Cliffjumper to temporarily trap him in vehicle mode until he calmed down. {{storylink|The Hanging Sword}}

The Autobots were none too pleased with Skywatch's ability to incapacitate any of them at any given time, and thought up a plan to deactivate the badges once Bumblebee's malfunctioned. Cliffjumper almost ruined it, however, when he cheered for Bumblebee's rousing "We Shall Overcome" speech even though they were being monitored. {{storylink|The Impossible Knot}} He had learned his lesson a while later, and used internal text messages to speak to his comrades instead. {{storylink|The Gift Horse}} As the Autobots continued to covertly monitor Bumblebee's progress, however, Cliffjumper could no longer restrain himself and yelled out a warning when Bumblebee bravely but foolishly threw himself into battle with the elite Decepticon, [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]. {{storylink|Wings of Wax}}

After the Horiuchi incident concluded and the badges were destroyed, Cliffjumper was present when Ultra Magnus returned, looking for deputies to bring in Hot Rod for colluding with the Decepticons. {{storylink|Enemies of the System}} Cliffjumper fought alongside Bumblebee and Hot Rod's teams against the new Decepticon gestalt, [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]. {{storylink|Earthworks}}

After Bumblebee made arrangements to ally the Autobots with Skywatch full time under [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]]'s authority, the Autobots moved into the humans' bunkers. In an attempt to smooth relations and promote cultural exchange, [[Campolongo]] introduced Cliffjumper and the other Autobots to his DVD collection. {{storylink|International Incident Part 2: "Ranks of Bronze"}} CJ was undergoing some repairs with Ratchet in the med-bay when Spike alerted them to the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]] presence along the demilitarized zone in Korea. {{storylink|International Incident Part 1: "The Land Ironclads"}}

Cliffjumper was one of the Autobots deployed to [[South Korea]] as part of Skywatch's clandestine operation to counter-attack the Combaticons without contradicting the [[President of the United States]]' decree that Cybertronians were considered to be weapons of mass destruction. As the Autobots were unpacked from shipping containers, Cliffjumper overheard Spike's sarcastic remark about Optimus Prime being Patton, and wondered aloud if he was referring to [[Patton Oswalt]], eliciting a laugh from Campolongo. During the subsequent battle against the Combaticons, Cliffjumper assisted Smokescreen in trying to prevent [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] from getting airborne, but was slashed by the Decepticon's rotor blade for his trouble. In the aftermath, while he waited for repairs, he wondered why Bumblebee wasn't out on the field with the Autobots he was supposed to be in command of. {{storylink|International Incident Part 2: "Ranks of Bronze"}} Cliffjumper then participated in the second assault on the Combaticons, though he and the others unexpectedly ended up fighting the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] as well. They were ultimately victorious (or rather, the Predacons left willingly when the humans attempted to nuke all combatants). {{storylink|International Incident Part 4: "All My Sins Remembered"}}

Cliffjumper and the other members of the Korea team were sent home on a plane, but were shot down by unknown assailants on the way. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 1: The Demolished Man}} They survived crashing in the sea, and managed to walk along the ocean bottom to the nearest shore. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 3: Woken Furies}} The Autobots soon learned that Megatron had returned to Earth, and was responsible for shooting their plane down. Cliffjumper and the others moved to confront him, but were told to stay back by Optimus, who wanted to confirm what was going on before they attacked the Decepticons. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 4: Burning Chrome}}

Some six weeks later, Hot Rod (now known as Rodimus) returned to the Autobot base from space, bringing with him a revived Sunstreaker. Cliffjumper was still wary around him, seeing as how his betrayal had stranded them on Cybertron years earlier, but all the feelings of happiness floating around the camp made him more forgiving. Like most other Autobots, Cliffjumper presumably boarded Omega Supreme's rocket mode to return to Cybertron the next day. {{storylink|Space Opera—Final Tableaux: Orphans of the Helix}}

Unfortunately the good times didn't last and Cliffjumper was back to acting like a jerk to Sunstreaker later on, on the flight to Cybertron and when they reached their homeworld. Being ordered to stay behind at the ship while Optimus, Rodimus, Sunstreaker, Ironhide and Drift got to take on the Sweeps and Galvatron probably didn't improve his bad mood
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===''Henkei! Henkei!'' pack-in comic===
One day, the Minibot Attack Team (Cliffjumper, [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] and [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]]) and the Minibot Spy Team ([[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]], [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] and [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]]) found an offline [[Hot Rod (Henkei!)|Hot Rod]] buried underground. Cliffjumper suggested they report their discovery back to base, but before they had a chance to, Cosmos found [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] also laying unconscious in the area. Assuming his [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] insignia to be a Decepticon one, the Minibots fought him until Hot Rod awoke and convinced the dinosaur to join the Autobots. {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 11}}

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==Games==
===Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons===
Optimus Prime embarked on a mission to rescue Cliffjumper, along with several other Autobots being held captive inside the Decepticons' maze-like base. {{storylink|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons packaging blurb and game}}

===The Transformers: Battle to Save the Earth===
[[Image:C64Cliffjumper.jpg|thumb|250px|:\]]

Along with his fellow Autobots, Cliffjumper protected Earth from the menace of the Decepticons. He was ostensibly under the command of [[Rodimus Prime (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]. {{storylink|The Transformers: Battle to Save the Earth}}

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==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1 Cliffjumper toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|This is the only toy that isn't a Bumblebee redeco.]]
*'''Cliffjumper''' (Mini Vehicle, 1984/1985)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''13'''
: Part of the original 1984 range of Autobot [[Mini Vehicle]]s, Cliffjumper began life as a ''[[Micro Change|Microchange]]'' "MC-04 #01 [[Wikipedia:Porsche 924|Porsche 924 Turbo]]", a [[super deformed]] "[[Choro-Q|Penny Racer]]"-style representation of the real car. Though broadly similar in construction to [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and commonly called a [[redeco]] of him by fans, Cliffjumper is actually an entirely different mold that just uses the same transformation scheme. This confusion was not helped by the fact that both Cliffjumper and Bumblebee were released in both red and yellow during the first two years of the Generation 1 toyline; a move designed to "make the line look bigger" according to former [[Hasbro]] R&D Vice President [[George Dunsay]].<ref name="dunsay">[http://www.tfarchive.com/fandom/interviews/george_dunsay/george_dunsay_interview.php Interview with George Dunsay at TFArchive.com]</ref>

:In 1984, Cliffjumper and the other Mini Vehicles came packaged in vehicle mode; in 1985, they were switched to come in robot mode, a change preceded by the addition of a picture of their vehicle modes to the front of their cards. The same year, the Autobot [[insignia]] on Cliffjumper's roof/chest was replaced with a heat-activated [[rubsign]]. Later in 1985, Cliffjumper and the Mini-Vehicles came packaged with [[Mini-spy|Mini-spies]].

:This mold was also used to make [[Carrera (G1)|Carrera]] (see below), and was [[retool]]ed to make [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]].

: A yellow version of the [[Microman|Microchange]] "MC-04 Mini CAR Robo 02 Familia 1500XG" mold was also available packaged on Cliffjumper cards. As an entirely different mold, this toy was not regarded as a variant of Cliffjumper, but rather as a separate character that the fandom christened "[[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]]".

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Cliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm More information on Cliffjumper at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:ListenNFun.jpg|thumb|right]]
*'''Cliffjumper''' (Listen 'n Fun, 1985)

: Cliffjumper was packaged with an audio cassette featuring the story "[[Sun Raid]]" as part of Hasbro's multi-brand [[Listen 'n Fun]] subline. Most of the toys packaged with this cassette were the yellow variant mentioned above, but exceptions do exist (see photo at right). As the other known Listen 'n Fun releases—including [[Tripwire (G.I. Joe)|Tripwire]] for ''[[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]]'' and "Ember" for ''[[My Little Pony]]''—had ''intentional'' deco changes from their original releases, it is likely that Cliffjumper becoming yellow was intentional as well.
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[[Image:G1toy gold carrera.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
*'''Carrera''' (Robocar, 1985)

:Cliffjumper was released in Brazil by [[Estrela]] in 1985 as the Robocar "Carrera", initially available in two color schemes: his original red and black, and metallic gold and black, both decorated with a new thin tech-detailing sticker on their chests. Later, Estrela released blue and white versions of Carrera sporting the new "[[Optimus (faction)|Optimus]]" faction insignia; given this new factional alignment, for the purposes of this wiki, the Optimus-aligned Carrera is considered to be a [[Carrera (G1)|separate character]] from Cliffjumper. As such, whether or not the earlier red and gold Carrera toys should then be considered versions of Cliffjumper, or versions of this different character, could be debated endlessly.
::*''[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/mini_frame.php?art=goldcliff More information on gold Cliffjumper/Carrera at TF-1.com]
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[[Image:AntexCarerra.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Carrera''' (Robocar, 1985)

:The aforementioned white version of Carrera was released in Argentina by [[Antex]] in 1985, along with a new green redeco; the toys' cardback depicts the original golden version as well, but it is believed this was merely photography of an Estrela toy, and that the golden figure was never sold in Argentina. As these releases of Carrera are not "Optimus"-aligned, bearing the earlier thin tech-detail decal, the question can be again raised over whether or not they represent Cliffjumper, or the separate character of Carrera. Whatever the case, these versions have much higher availability on the secondary market over their Estrela predecessors.
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[[Image:G1toy cliffjumper keychain.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
*'''Cliffjumper''' (Keychain Mini-Vehicle, 2001/2003/2007)

: Released in the US by [[Fun4All]] at the same time as a "keychain" Bumblebee, this was a slight retooling of the first Cliffjumper toy with a new face design similar to [[Classic Pretender]] Bumblebee and added a loop to the back bumper for a keychain attachment. In 2003, Takara released all four of the keychain Minibots (Cliffjumper, Bumblebee, [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]], and [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]]) for the Japanese market in both their original decos and in [[exclusive]] all-black coloration. Early in 2007, [[Hasbro]] re-released the "keychain" Mini-Vehicles for the US under the "[[Heroes of Cybertron]]" sub-line, which popped up in stores like Wal-Mart as well as smaller chains like the original releases.

: This mold was [[redeco]]ed into [[Tap-Out (G1)|Tap-Out]].
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Cliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm More information on keychain Cliffjumper at TFU.info]''
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Cybertron/BlackCliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm More information on black Cliffjumper at TFU.info]]''
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===Alternators===
[[Image:AlternatorsCliffjumperDesign.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Cliffjumper'''
: One of the earliest proposals in the ''[[Alternators|Alternators/Binaltech]]'' line was for Bumblebee as a Volkswagen New Beetle, with Cliffjumper as the redeco. Unfortunately, VW evidently did not want to be associated with "war toys", and therefore the design never made it past the control drawing stage. Control drawings for both Bumblebee and Cliffjumper have been published in the Japanese ''[[The Transformers: Binaltech & TF Collection Complete Guide]]'' book.
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===Titaniums===
[[Image:Titanium_bumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Floating-head Cliffjumper]]
*''' ''War Within'' Bumblebee''' (Cybertron Hero, unreleased)
**''Accessories:'' Unknown, likely display stand

:Prior to the line's cancellation, a 6-inch resin copy depicting a transformable Bumblebee was seen at [[BotCon 2006]]. His alternate mode was the saucer-like car seen the Dreamwave's ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]'' (which was itself based on the first cartoon appearance of Bumblebee). An alternate head of Cliffjumper was seen as well, indicating a retool. Unfortunately these never made it into production.
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===Classics===
[[Image:Classics Cliffjumper toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|[[:Image:Bumblebeeheads.jpg|What goes around...]]]]
*'''Cliffjumper''' (Deluxe, 2006/2007)
**''Accessories'': "Wave Crusher" trailer

:''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' Cliffjumper is a red, silver, gray and black [[redeco]] of the ''Classics'' Bumblebee toy, transforming into a small sports coupe of made-up model and towing a small trailer with a non-removable jet-ski. This "[[Wave Crusher]]" trailer/jet-ski transforms into a flight-pack that clips onto Cliffjumper's back.

: This mold was also used to make Classics [[Bug Bite (G1)|Bug Bite]] included in the [[BotCon]] exclusive "[[Games of Deception]]" figure set.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Autobot/ClassicsCliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm More information on Classics Cliffjumper at TFU.info]''

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===Henkei! Henkei!===
[[Image:HenkeiMinibotCliffjumper.jpg|right|300px|thumb|It's small and inaccurate, but you still want it.]]
*'''Minibot Attack Team''' (Multi-pack, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-18'''

:''[[Henkei! Henkei! (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' Cliffjumper is a redeco of ''[[Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' (2008) Legends class [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Bumblebee]], transforming into a modern hatchback. He comes in a set with [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] and the inappropriately-included [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]].
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===Alternity===
[[Image:Alternity Cliffjumper toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px]]
*'''Cliff''' (2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''A-03'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 "wave-functional pointer guns"
:Avoiding the straight redeco theme the first time, ''[[Transformers: Alternity|Alternity]]'' Cliffjumper is a [[retool]] of Bumblebee with a new head, transforming into a 1:32 scale Suzuki Swift, featuring die-cast metal parts and rubber tires, as well as an opening hood, trunk and doors. In robot mode, the figure can hold twin pistols that are normally stored in the legs, and features light-piped eyes.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Cybertron/Cliff/cliff.htm More information on Alternity Cliff at TFU.info]''
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===United===
[[Image:Unitedtoy_cliffjumper.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
*'''Cliffjumper Cybertron Mode''' (Deluxe, 2010)
**''ID number'': '''UN03'''
**''Accessories'': "Energy gun"

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' product, Cliffjumper is a [[redeco]] of the [[Cliffjumper (Prime)#Toys|''War for Cybertron'' Cliffjumper toy]], transforming into a round "Cybertronian courier mode". He comes with a handgun and features two wrist-mounted flip-out blades. The handgun can be stored inside his rear bumper in either robot or vehicle mode.

: Early photos of Cliffjumper showed him with pink flip out blades and details rather than yellow like the final product. TakaraTomy's release features an extensive metallic paint job on the car mode panels as well as some of the robot's parts (such as the head and forearms). Notably the deco layout for Cliffjumper is closer to that of Bumblebee's than the Hasbro counterpart. He also replaces the dark gray of the Hasbro release with a lighter gray.

: This mold was [[retool]]ed from [[Bumblebee (Prime)#Toys|''War for Cybertron'' Bumblebee]], which was redecoed to be [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#United|''United'' Bumblebee Cybertron Mode]].
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==Merchandise==

===Happy Meal Toy===
[[Image:Mcdonalds_cliffjumper.jpg|right|thumb]]
*'''Cliffjumper''' (1985)
:Non-poseable, non-transforming figurines of Cliffjumper and three of his Mini-Vehicle chums (Bumblebee, [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] and Brawn) made up the very first line of Transformers [[List of Transformers restaurant promotions|Happy Meal toys]]. Alas, the figures did not see a full release, and were only test-marketed in St. Louis, Missouri. The two-tone figures were available in a variety of colour variations, with at least six different combinations for each of the four characters: in addition to his traditional red and black, Cliffjumper is known to have been available in green and black, blue and black, blue and red, black and red, and cyan and black.

::*''[http://tfwiki.net/~fortmax/artifacts/featuredart3.html More information on Happy Meal Bumblebee at the TF Artifacts List]''
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===Transformers Milk Caramel===
[[Image:Caramel_cliffjumper.jpg|right|thumb]]
*'''Cliff''' (1985)
:A soft rubber figurine—known in Japan as a ''keshigomu''— of Cliffjumper was released as part of the first wave of [[Kabaya]]'s earliest [[candy toy]] line, ''[[Transformers Milk Caramel]]''. Based more on his toy than his animation model, Cliffjumper came packaged with chocolate-covered caramel candies, and was available in various colours, including white, blue, sky blue, yellow, green and orange.

===Transformers Choco===

*'''Cliff''' (1985)
:A small solid-color, transforming snap-together model kit of Cliffjumper was released as part of Kabaya's ''[[Transformers Choco]]'' line of candy toys.
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===Decoy===
[[Image:Decoy_cliffjumper.jpg|right|thumb]]
*'''Cybertron Hero Collection 9''' (multi-pack, 1986)
*'''Defeat Dinosaurer Strategy Game''' (board game, 1986)
:Cliffjumper was among the many characters rendered by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] as part of their series of 1.5" ''keshigomu'' figurines. Like all the Autobots in the series, Cliffjumper was molded in soft red rubber, and featured a number sculpted into his back that was the sum total of his [[Tech Spec]]s, for use in the various games that could be played with the figurines. Bumblee was available as part of a 9-piece box set of Autobot figures, as a playing piece in the Defeat Dinosauruer Strategy Game and later, in a peach coloration randomly packed as part of various other box sets.

*'''Cliffjumper''' (1987)
**''Decoy number:'' '''28'''

: The Cliffjumper figurine was later brought over to [[Hasbro]] markets as part of the [[Decoy]] promotion, largely identical to the Japanese release except for the fact that the number on his back was replaced with a simple "checklist" number (28, in Cliffjumper's case). Like all Autobot Decoys, he was a randomly-chosen pack-in available with the carded [[Throttlebot]]s, [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] and [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Decoys/Cliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm More information on Decoy Cliffjumper at TFU.info]''
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===Titanium===
[[Image:Titanium-toy RMCliffjumper.JPG|right|thumb|]]
*'''Cliffjumper''' (Robot Master, 2006)
**''Accessories:'' Gun, display stand

:''[[Titanium Series]]'' Cliffjumper was to be a redeco of "Robot Masters" Bumblebee, a 3-inch mostly-die-cast-metal statue. He would have had joints at the waist, neck and shoulders, plus a removable pistol and an Autobot-sigil display stand. Due to the cancelation of the ''Titanium'' line, this product never saw release.
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===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Robot Hero Cliffjumper.jpg|right|thumb|Cutest bloodthirsty traitor-tracker EVER.]]
*'''Decepticon Sneak Attack''' (Figure Multi-pack, 2007)

:Cliffjumper is a red, gray and black redeco of the ''Robot Heroes'' Bumblebee toy. He was initially only available in the Wal-Mart [[exclusive]] "Decepticon Sneak Attack" five-pack along with "Supermetal" versions of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/merchandise|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)/toys|Megatron]], a clear-plastic [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]], and [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]. He could later be purchased as part of the blind-packed series of single ''Robot Heroes'' figures available in the United Kingdom and Malaysia.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Autobot/RHWMCliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm More information on Robot Heroes Cliffjumper at TFU.info]''

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===Mini-Bust===
[[Image:Cliffjumper statue.jpg|right|thumb|War...It's FAN-tastic!]]
* '''Cliffjumper Mini Bust''' (Diamond Select, 2008)

:Released by [[Diamond Select Toys]] in 2008, Cliffjumper was sculpted by Mark Wong of Art Asylum and limited to 1,000 pieces. The sculpt features Cliffjumper holding the gun he was seen using in "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]". However, this version omits the stabilizing struts that were present in the episode. This bust is also notable for being the first new mold G1 Cliffjumper has received since his Decoy in 1987, a period of over twenty years!

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==Notes==
*Cliffjumper's pre-production name '''Blow-Out''' was mentioned in a Marvel Age article announcing the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel comic series]] in 1984<ref name="marvelage">[http://www.electric-escape.net/node/590 Article from Marvel Age #17.]</ref>, and also appeared at one point in ''[[The Great Car Rally]]''. The second instance is particularly peculiar considering he's referred to as Cliffjumper throughout the rest of the book.
*In "[[Laserbeak's Fury]]", Cliffjumper's only appearance in the [[Ladybird Books]], he is colored yellow like his original toy's variant.
*In "[[Shattered Glass (issue)|Shattered Glass]]", mirror universe [[Sideswipe (SG)|Sideswipe]] once refers to Cliffjumper as '''CJ'''.
*Though often a straight redeco of Bumblebee in non-Japanese countries, there has yet to be a Cliffjumper produced by TakaraTomy that is a straight redeco of the same line's Bumblebee.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Cliff''' (クリフ ''Kurifu'')
*''French:'' '''Matamore''' (Canada), '''Rapido''' (Canada)
*''Hungarian:'' '''Sziklaugró''' ("Cliffjumper"), '''Ugró''' (first dub of ''The Movie'', "Jumper")
*''Italian:'' '''Grillo''' ("Cricket")
*''Mandarin:'' '''Tìau Yái''' (Taiwan, 跳崖, "Cliff Jumping"), '''Fēi Gùo Shān''' (China, 飛過山, "Flying across a Mountain")
*''Portuguese:'' '''Salta-Penhascos''' (Portugal comics), '''Saltador''' (Brazil comics)
*''Russian:'' '''Skalolaz''' (Скалолаз, "Rock-climber")
*''South American:'' '''Carrera'''
*''Ukrainian:'' '''Strybun''' (Стрибун, "Jumper")

==References==
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==External links==
* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Cliffjumper Cliffjumper's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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== Aligned Timeline ==

I'm going to try and take a stab at creating an Aligned timeline that unites everything we know about the franchise(s) so far. Any help would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 09:48, 17 October 2011 (EDT)

== Help Wanted ==

Hello one and all. I'm here representing a newly created Role-Playing forum that is based in the Transformers Universe. We're in the early stages yet, and are looking for people to help get the ball rolling. Since this site seems to lack a dedicated forum (where requests like these would usually be made) and I haven't seen any other way to effectively say my piece in front of a large audience, I thought that posting here was the best way to "advertise" us, as it were. I sincerely apologize if this was the wrong move on our part, or if I've breached protocol at all, but I can assure everyone that our intentions aren't malign. Those interested, please contact me using any of the ways that I have listed on my username page here on this site. I won't tempt fate by linking our website here directly =P

Once again, you all have my sincere greetings, and I hope to hear from you soon. Also, as a side note: the difference in quality between this page and the transformers wikia is amazing. [[User:Rathian Warrior|Rathian Warrior]] 23:50, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:I'm not sure if you've crossed any lines, and frankly, you were polite enough about it that it's not a big deal, but you could always buy some ad space if you want to raise awareness of your forum. It's cheap! There's usually a link on every page around the banners, but if you didn't catch it, you can follow this link: [https://www.projectwonderful.com/advertisehere.php?id=25311&type=4 Project Wonderful TFWiki Page]--[[User:McFly|McFly]] 16:13, 8 November 2011 (EST)

== "Fictional" and "real" categories ==
I think we need to come up with a consistent way to distinguish categories of things that are real and categories of things that have appeared in fiction. So far, we've skimmed the issue by using synonyms, such as [[:Category:Companies|companies]] and [[:Category:Businesses|businesses]], but that doesn't really work for things like [[:Category:Magazines|magazines]], which is already used for real magazines. Currently, we have [[:Category:Fictional books]], [[:Category:Fictional video games]] that consider the fictional entities "different". On the other hand, we have [[:Category:Real-world events by day]] and [[:Category:Real world films]]. We focus more on the fictional aspect of Transformers, so it makes sense to not point out the fictionality in categories, but "real world" sounds awkward to some. Which one should we use? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:26, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:I thought I'd cheat and see how some of the other fictional Wikis deal with the problem. Three different approaches I saw:
:*[http://tardis.wikia.com/ Doctor Who wiki] has a [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Real_world "Real World" category] for real world stuff and in most cases the categories for real world things are at "Real world X".
:*[http://wookiepedia.org/ Wookiepedia] goes the parenthetical route, with "Books" and "Books (real-world)". Though they also have one or two like "Real world companies".
:*[http://stargate.wikia.com/ Stargate wiki] has "Books" versus "Stargate books" for real world books.
:I kinda like the parenthetical approach that Wookiepedia have taken. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:11, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::I'd favor pointing out the status of both categories, just to make absolutely clear what they are for. The words can be "Fictional" and "Real-world" (I notice both real-world categories use a different spelling. Whichever it's gonna be (if), only one spelling should be used). "Nonfictional" kinda works as an alternative, would "Real-world" be disliked. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 04:35, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::If we go that route, I think "real-world" should be used, since "real world" is a lot more easier to fix than the other parsing. I like the Wookiepedia approach, but I'm not sure that's enough to change how we already do categories. The idea to label both categories sounds nice, but "Fictional X" seems incongruous with unlabeled categories, such as "weapons", "technology", etc.; considering that our main focus is the fiction, I'm leaning towards only labeling the real stuff. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 13:02, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::I think it would be advantageous to put a {{tl|disambig2}} at the top, so people could easily go from the fictional to the real world category too. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:30, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::Yeah, I think I put that on [[:Category:Films]] a while ago. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:57, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::Speaking of this, I found we handle [[:Category:Films]] like [[:Category:Real people]], wouldn't this be some, um, confusing? It's just, somehow, reverse? (Except for the fictional films like ''Honoji'') According to the logic of how we handle [[:Category:Real people]], shouldn't we place films like ''40-Year-Old Virgin'' or ''Godzilla'' in the [[:Category:Real world films]]? --'''[[User:TX55|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 23:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)
::::::::Godzilla doesn't go in "Real world films" because it's not a real world ''Transformers'' film. The Transformers is implied in that category name. Presumably we could have a "Real films" category for Godzilla, etc, but I'm not sure it's worth doing. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:53, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::We shouldn't use "fictional X" for two reasons. One, there things like [[As the Kitchen Sinks]] that are fictional even within the fictional Transformers universe. Second, the wiki is written in-universe by default and putting [[Big Steve's Used Cars]] in a "fictional businesses" category would kind of break that. Within Transformers fiction, "Big Steve's Used Cars" is not a fictional company, but "As the Kitchen Sinks" is a fictional TV show. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:47, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::In-universe, As the Kitchen Sinks is not a fictional show. It depicts fictional events and fictional people, yes, but the show itself, as a piece of entertainment, is not fictional. I do get your point, as we actually have things like [[Frankenstein]] that are two layers of fiction removed from us. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:18, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::Yes, of course. I meant, in-universe, ''As the Kitchen Sinks'' is a work of fiction, whereas "Big Steve's Used Cars" is a real business that sells real used cars to real people. Have I been saying it wrong all this time? Wasn't ''Buck Rogers'' a fictional TV show? Anyway, it sounds like you got my point. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:14, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::Or, judging by the fact categories like "Magazines" in used for magazines in our real life and "Companies" for companies in real life, why not just use "Film" for films (such as DOTM) in real life, while we move current contents in "Films" to "Films in ''Transformers'' fictions"? --'''[[User:TX55|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 23:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::::That seems like it would go counter to some of our existing naming schemes. e.g. if we split that out into films by franchise, you'd get "Films in Generation 1" rather than "Generation 1 films". Though admittedly the former title might have the advantage that it's clearer in meaning. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:50, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::::I think both are equally ambiguous in their meaning. If we still need to clarify the purpose of the categories, we can always spell it out in the category's introduction. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:03, 7 September 2011 (EDT)

== "Transformers: " ==
We talked a bit about adding back "Transformers: " to the titles of articles [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/Archive51#When_to_omit_.22Transformers.22_from_an_article_title|previously]], and the general sentiment was that people were for it or didn't have an issue with it. Does anybody else have any input in this matter? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:34, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:I'm okay with this change, but I do have three questions on execution. <br>1.) Whether or not "Transformers" is followed by a colon seems random in our current system. How will that be handled? <br>2.) If "Transformers(:)" is going to be added to every relevant page name, then what about all the extra words in the titles of Japanese stuff? <br>3.) What conseuqneces will this have for categories, lists, storylinks, etc? <br>[[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 04:41, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::#I think we've had two consistent rules about that: If the title is some kind of phrase, like "Transformers United", "The Transformers Collection", or "Transformers Animated", then we don't use the colon. If the title is some kind of obvious "title: subtitle" setup ("Transformers: Armada", "Transformers: Prime"), then we use the colon. There's some borderline examples, but I think we can figure them out one by one. Official sources will help with determining colon-status. The other rule seems to apply to only games: If the title has another subtitle, then the first colon is dropped (ex. [[Transformers Prime: Terrorcon Defense]]). I dunno why, but we can add back the colon, I suppose.
::#I guess we add them? We could argue it for ''Victory'', since it was released in English contexts as just "Transformers: Victory".
::#I think we're just going to continue the same in relation to those. The articles will still be sorted by their subtitles in categories. Storylinks I could go either way on, but I think the trend is to drop the main title. I've been doing that for the AAII storylinks to avoid excessively long links. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:49, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::I don't see how "Transformers United" and "Transformers Animated" are any different from "Transformers: Prime". To me, all three could fall into either of your groups (phrase vs subtitle) and would prefer colons in all of those cases. Of your examples, only "The Transformers Collection" seems to really belong in the "phrase" group. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:22, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::"United" and "Animated" are adjectives that modify "Transformers" and have official sources that omit the colon. "Transformers Prime" doesn't make sense in that way. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:58, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::I am not certain about those two "rules" for colons either. They're rather vague and bound to cause arguments and confusion. It needs to be made more obvious whether a colon should be used or not before "Transformers" can be added everywhere (a help page on the matter would also be handy in the future, me thinks).

::::I think that if we would put the cartoon at ''Transformers: Victory'', that would cause confusion with the manga, storypages, toyline and franchises, none of which were ever brought over and should thus not be named such. If moved, the ''Victory'' cartoon should best go to its Japanese name. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:28, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>shrug* The first rule is mostly there for Transformers Animated, which people will be resistant to moving to have a colon (plus, obvious cases like The Transformers Collection). The second rule I really don't care about and can be tossed (it mostly only concerns the movie series of video games and online games). [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::Are you suggesting there that Victory articles should be moved to "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory"? I'd disagree with that, if so! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:25, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::Why? We can't go around writing out the full names of Western franchises and stuff but not do so for the Japanese stuff. We already have "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" written out for the 1985 & 1986 Japanese franchises, so why not ''Victory''? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 07:30, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
:::::::Victory (the cartoon) has been released in the West as "Transformers: Victory", to me that means that the official English name of the franchise ''is'' Transformers: Victory. Yes, we should give the full Japanese title at the beginning of the franchise page but there is no reason to move anything to that name. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:35, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::That was pretty much my reasoning too (also typing out the full name every time we wanted to link to it would be tedious). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:59, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::Tying out "(franchise)" every time for everything is more tedious, but we still have it (for... some reason). Ditto long titles like [[The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers]] and [[Transformers Vault]]'s previous ridiculously long title.
:::::::::But I guess the general principle of "Transformers: " is acceptable to most. I'll start moving the noncontroversial pages (Western comics and cartoons with definite subtitles, etc.) if there's no opposition in the next few hours. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:08, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::::Is there a difference between [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering]] and [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Ascending|Transformers: Beast Wars: The Ascending]]? I must admit, the comma/colon distinction seems kinda arbitrary. Also, these page names seem kind of overlong and stupid, what's wrong with [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Ascending|The Ascending]] and [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering|The Gathering]]? It's a Transformers wiki and those are Beast Wars series; prefixing everything we possibly can with "Transformers" is only going to clog up the search box and make editing just that bit more arduous. What were the arguments in favour of this again? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 16:21, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::::That's the formatting used in the indicia. Your complaint about the search box is silly; did you really think typing "Transformers" into it yielded anything useful 99% of the time?
:::::::::::Like it or not, "Transformers: " is the part of the name of many things, and the hoops we have to go through to maintain this silly system of dropping it from article titles has gotten ridiculous and inconsistent. Adding "Transformers: " to article titles, on the other hand, adds ''clarity'' and avoids pointless disambiguation. "The Transformers: Bumblebee" is preferable to "Bumblebee (comic)", "Transformers: Sector 7" to "Sector 7 (comic)", etc. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:44, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::::::I get that it's useful in some cases, but it just seems like applying the rule across the board means we're overcomplicating the issue. Occam's razor has a lot going for it, and for user-friendliness I'd go for brevity. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 17:11, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::::::Also on an Occam's razor tip, "Bumblebee (comic)" conveys more information in fewer characters than "Transformers: Bumblebee". I really don't understand why the latter is preferable. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 14:06, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::::::There's something to say for either argument, but as it is, we have proven to be unable to keep to one consistent "Transformers"-as-part-of-the-title policy at least since TFA. And if trying to keep "Transformers" out of the deal doesn't work, we oughta give the alternative a chance. I don't think it necesarilly makes it harder to find anything, as the search box reacts to words even if they are not the first part of a page title. And I want to have the changes in clear perspective before I might suggest deleting a few redirects, so at least for now, searches won't be any harder and we have a consistent policy. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 14:49, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

I gotta say, I'm hating how this is working in practice. Article titles seem long and ugly to me.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 15:46, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

:I feel the same, but it seems to be an necessary evil because "Transformers: ***" is a full title? duh. --'''[[User:TX55|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 22:45, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

::I fear the day someone decides to add full titles to disambiguation suffixes as well, e.g. "Optimus Prime (Transformers Animated)", "Grindor (Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen)" etc.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:43, 15 September 2011 (EDT)

:::That would be silly, and I'm pretty sure most people would oppose it. Putting "Transformers:" in names is a change we'd already been drifting towards for a while with, for instance, the War for Cybertron articles all doing it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:32, 15 September 2011 (EDT)

::::On a related note, it's a pet peeve of mine when a writeup talks about a specific medium related to a franchise but links to the franchise as a whole instead, such as "Jetfire was released as part of wave 1 of the [[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] toyline" or "in episode 6 of the [[Energon (franchise)|Energon]] cartoon...".--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 17:29, 15 September 2011 (EDT)
:::::Would the best solution there be something like "Jetfire was released as part of wave 1 of the [[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] [[Cybertron (toyline)|toyline]]"? --[[Special:Contributions/77.99.176.103|77.99.176.103]] 03:32, 29 September 2011 (EDT) (oops, emvee not logged in)
::::::I think linking to the toyline page is sufficent. There's no need for an additional link to the corresponding umbrella franchise. The thought behind this is: "If Joe McRandom sees something that interests him and clicks a link, does he want the link to take him straight to the specific topic or to a more general overview?" I think link targets should always be as specific as necessary. If someone gets interested in a broader overview, he can always go one level up. After all, a link referring to G1 Optimus Prime leads to [[Optimus Prime (G1)]], not to [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)]], either. In the same fashion, toyline pages should deeplink to the specific toy entries on the respective characters' pages (or even their toy pages, if applicable). Like, if Joe McRandom is on the [[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe (2008 toyline)]] page, sees a "Prowl" toy listed under "Deluxe Class" and wants to read more about that toy, he wants the "Prowl" link to take him straight to [[Prowl (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)]], not to the [[Prowl (G1)|main character page]] where he then has to scroll down to "toys", see that G1 Prowl toys have their separate page, go ''there'', ''then'' scroll down to "Universe (2008)". (It currently links to [[Prowl (G1)/toys]], which is at least halfway there.) I will fix this wherever I see it, and implement it when doing writeups.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 08:11, 13 October 2011 (EDT)

===Suggestion to creating templates===

Do we need some kinds of templates when typing contents for convenience? For my experience in Terminator Wiki, we use templates like <nowiki>{{T3}} for ''[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]'' or {{TSCC}} for ''[[Terminator: The Sarah Connnor Chronicles]]''</nowiki>. What I'm suggesting is that after we make all franchise names into full title (and we don't use redirect links), it is some how trouble some when typing the title. So we can make some templates like:
<pre>
{{tf|Armada}} -> ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Transformers: Armada]]''

{{tf|Armada|toyline|Pokeformer}} -> ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Pokeformer]]''

{{jptf|bwn}} -> ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo]]''

</pre>

If there is any user who can created complex template, we could make

<pre>
{{tf|armada|t}} -> ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Transformers: Armada]]''

parameter 1:
2010 = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010 (toyline)
thm = Transformers: The Headmasters (toyline)
mf = Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (toyline)
v = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory
z = Transformers: Zone
roc = Transformers: Return of Convoy
oc = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Operation Combination
armada = Transformers Armada
bwn = Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo
mov = Movie
rotf = Revenge of the Fallen
tfa = Transformers Animated
...and (blah blah)

parameter 2:
*default* - franchise
t - toyline
ct - cartoon
co - comic
m - manga
f - film

And, if possible:
if parameter 3 = s (for example), it will become short title like ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]''

</pre>

--'''[[User:TX55|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 21:42, 24 September 2011 (EDT)

:It's something I've thought about as well. Considering there are a lot of exceptions to the regular naming system (parts of franchises that are called something different or franchises that lack the (franchise) identifier on the wiki because it's not necessary to disambiguate it), I don't think a template can be coded to put a link together. A full list system like our TFtoon templates have could maybe work though. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:08, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
::I think with the number of franchises we have, it would end up being a hellishly big template and difficult to maintain for only a minor gain. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:03, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

==="Fight! Super Robot Lifeform" Transformers===
With the insertion of this phrase into the Victory page titles, should it also be inserted into the titles of The Headmasters, Super-God Masterforce, and Zone? now while the immediate answer would be "No", there are some places that do include this text above the "Toransufōmā" text in each of these series's logos. An example of this would the [[Transformers Tapestry]] (which even includes it in the Operation combination logo as well) and the [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Columbia_Zone_DVD.jpg Columbia DVD of Zone]. Its inclusion in these places seems more than mere coincidence, so would we take this idea into consideration? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 14:33, 23 October 2011 (EDT)
:Um, that ''Zone'' DVD does not support your assertion. All of the ''actual'' media for those series (except for the Zone manga and story pages) do not include The "Fight!..." portion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:58, 23 October 2011 (EDT)
::Technically the whole toyline in Japan from 1985 to 1992 was called "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" (as was written on the boxes), so at least the toyline pages for the series of those years would probably need the longer title than just "Transformers: ''X'' (toyline)" --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:04, 25 October 2011 (EDT)
:::So you want to move the toyline pages to some made-up name? Pick one: 1) Merge all of the toyline pages to "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)" 2) Leave the toyline pages as they are instead of stressing over naming things that technically don't exist. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:23, 25 October 2011 (EDT)
::::How is it "made up"? "Tatakae! Chō Robot Seimeitai" means "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform" and is written above the "Toransufōmā" text on the packages of the 1985-1992 Japanese toys. I'm not proposing we merge all those toyline pages together, but rather something akin to the [[Transformers: Beast Wars (Japanese toyline)|Japanese Beast Wars toyline]] page, in which the individual toylines are kept separate even though they were all collectively the same-named toyline. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 17:25, 25 October 2011 (EDT)
:::::"Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: The Headmasters" and its ilk are the imaginary names. Those articles for imaginary toylines are fine where they are. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:53, 25 October 2011 (EDT)

==="Movie"===
There's still [[Movie (franchise)]], [[Movie (toyline)]] and more. Shouldn't that be "Transformers (2007 franchise)" and "Transformers (2007 toyline)", with the current [[Transformers (2007)]] becoming "Transformers (2007 movie)"?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 20:44, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

:Probably. I didn't move them, since I wanted to bring it up for discussion first. The film should be moved to just "Transformers (film)", though. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 21:05, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

:"Movie (''media'')" should be moved to "Transformers (2007 ''media'')" while "Transformers (2007)" goes "Transformers (film)". --'''[[User:TX55|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 21:27, 24 October 2011 (EDT)
::That push for lexical accuracy strikes me as creating more ambiguity than it resolves. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:06, 25 October 2011 (EDT)

==Jungaroo==
Someone made a lovely [[Jungaroo]] gobox, but there's no page for him. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:23, 6 September 2011 (EDT)
:I don't think he's in any applicable fiction, but his [http://home.comcast.net/~BattleBeastSD/MGCKang.html bio card is online here]. Someone will have to translate it from Japanese first though. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:25, 15 September 2011 (EDT)

== Making the search suggestion work better ==

I don't know if anyone else has this problem, but I noticed sometimes when I type something in the search box, the search suggestions below it jump around and end up on a list which doesn't quite match what I typed. I think it's something to do with the speed I'm typing and the amount of time the server takes to respond to each request.

Anyway, I tweaked the javascript for grabbing the suggestions from the server so it would only trigger when I stopped typing. That seems to fix the problem for me, and as a bonus it's not nagging the server on every keypress. The downside is no instant feedback when I type, but I can live without that if it fixes the other thing.

If anyone else is having that problem and wants to have a go, just copy and paste the following into your [[Special:MyPage/monacobook.js|monacobook.js]] (caveat: only tested on Firefox and Chrome):
<pre><nowiki>
var ss_memory = null;
var ss_timeron = 0;
var ss_timer;

function DoActualSearch() {
ss_timeron=0;
var newdiv = document.getElementById("searchsuggest");
if (!newdiv) {
var newdiv = document.createElement("div");
newdiv.id = "searchsuggest";
var searchdiv = document.getElementById("searchBody");
searchdiv.appendChild(newdiv);
}
var x = document.getElementById("searchInput").value;
if (x == ss_memory) {
return;
}
ss_memory = x;
document.getElementById("searchsuggest").style.display = 'none';
if (x.length < 30 && x.length > 1 && x.value != "") {
sajax_do_call("wfAjaxSearchSuggest", [x], newdiv);
document.getElementById("searchsuggest").style.display = 'block';
}
}

function MySearchCall() {
if(ss_timeron) {
clearTimeout(ss_timer);
ss_timer=setTimeout("DoActualSearch();",500);
} else {
ss_timer=setTimeout("DoActualSearch();",500);
ss_timeron=1;
}
}

function myss_ajax_onload(){
var x = document.getElementById('searchInput');
x.onkeyup = function(){
MySearchCall();
};
}

hookEvent("load", myss_ajax_onload);
</nowiki></pre>
Unfortunately it won't fix the actual contents of the search suggestions, so you'll still get a bunch of All Hail Megatron issues when you type "Megatron", but that requires changes on the server. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:02, 14 September 2011 (EDT)
:Hmm. I feel like adding <tt>ORDER BY `page_counter` DESC</tt> around line 20 of ''suggest.php'' might help w/ our search results, but it's hard to say for sure given how abstracted mediawiki database calls are, someone would have ot make the change then test it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:47, 15 September 2011 (EDT)
::The thought I had was to do a query on article titles starting with the search term, and then if that gives back less than 8 entries, do a second search to fill the rest of the list with titles with the term anywhere in the title. The search suggest currently supports both options, but not at the same time. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:07, 15 September 2011 (EDT)

==Stuff==
: Firstly, our organization of information related to the junior franchises is terrible and I'd love to do something about it, but I need feedback. We currently have most Japanese and American Go-Bots as separate characters, except for the Japanese Go-Bots from the 1-2-3 line. Though there are requests for a separate Chopper page. Should those pages be split or not? And if so, what about the figures that came with some of the toys. Kid-Bot clearly isn't the "red driver" or "blue driver", but the dog and "Gas-Bot" both have fiction in only one of the two franchises, so is it worth separating them? Also, does the unpublished coloring book count as apocrypha or not, seeing as it was mostly approved? And the human characters within, do they count as cameos like Kelly in the Dreamwave comics or separate characters? And does anyone know what the Japanese name was by which the First Transformers were released? The Go-Bots fansite has an image of Dumpkun's box featuring what looks like a G1 logo, the First Transformers logo and "初めてトランスフォーマー" written on it.
: Secondly, many disambiguation pages still mention if there's a separate page for the toys of a character. Is this system still necessary now that we use subpages to separate such stuff under? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 17:07, 23 September 2011 (EDT)

::I think unpublished stuff is treated as apocrypha, isn't it? The character page coverage of unreleased Dreamwave issues is in notes, for instance. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:48, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
:::True, but we don't know if those were approved or know those weren't approved. The coloring book was approved, just not released. That makes it better comparable to Wreckers #$, which we do not consider apocrypha (though I wouldn't know if we'd do that if Wreckers #5 didn't partially canonize it). [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:39, 1 October 2011 (EDT)
::Just weighing in on the toy page issue: I find it useful to have these called out on the disambig pages. Being able to go directly from the disambig page to the toy page of a character saves me at least one click (if I see the suite box in time) and often some scrolling (if I don't see it). However, I won't fight too hard on this if consensus is for the removal of this feature. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 07:47, 26 September 2011 (EDT)

::Thinking some more about the Go-Bots stuff, as the Japanese version of Gas-Bot has no fiction, it probably doesn't need its own page - either link to Gas-Bot's page or just leave it unlinked in the appropriate toy sections. Same with the US version of the dog. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:30, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

== Facebook. ==

Is '''<nowiki>http://www.facebook.com/pages/TFwikinet/191252494230187</nowiki>''' us? Because it's the #1 link when you search for "TFWiki Facebook," and our group is nowhere to be seen. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:32, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

:I think our group is not showing up because you have to have a Facebook account to see it? When I go to the group's URL, I just get a page prompting me to log in to Facebook. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:47, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

::The link is this one: [http://www.facebook.com/groups/28226443881/ http://www.facebook.com/groups/28226443881/], which is the #3 on the search by "TFwiki site:facebook.com" on Google. --'''[[User:TX55|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 19:51, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
:::So the other one isn't ours, and we can't put a link on it pointing it to the group.
:::Annoying. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 13 October 2011 (EDT)
::::It's a "Community page", whatever that is. Clicking on the "Create a page" button on the top right of that page does bring up some sort of form which seems like it will do something. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:12, 13 October 2011 (EDT)

== Halloween ==

Presuming we're deco'ing our frontpage for Halloween... does anyone have any suggestions? Monsters, ghosts, gouls? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:09, 27 October 2011 (EDT)
:Animated Blitzwing's random face looks sorta Jack O'Lanterny and could work as a replacement for the Autobot insignia on the site logo, assuming we can find a head-on image of it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:35, 27 October 2011 (EDT)

== Moving "(Timelines)" articles ==

I'm thinking that, as we don't bother with "(Timelines)" for SG, TransTech, and Animated characters, we should apply the same across the board and only use it if necessary.

*[[Astrotrain (Timelines)]] → Astrotrain (Cybertron)
*[[Cannonball (Timelines)]] → Cannonball (G1)
*[[Cop-Tur (Timelines)]] → Cop-Tur (G1)
*[[Halogen (Timelines)]] → Halogen (G1)
*[[Side Burn (Timelines)]] → Side Burn (G1)
*[[Sky-Byte (Timelines)]] → Sky-Byte (G2)
*[[Switchblade (Timelines)]] → Switchblade (BW)
*[[Thunderblast (Timelines)]] → Thunderblast (G1)
*[[Yoketron (Timelines)]] → Yoketron (G1)

The exceptions are the Descent into Evil characters, who don't really fit in any pre-existing franchise, and the Nexus Prime characters, who don't originate from a particular universe.
*[[Buzzclaw (Timelines)]]
*[[Dirge (Timelines)]]
*[[Flareup (Timelines)]]
*[[Landquake (Timelines)]]
*[[Ricochet (Timelines)]]
*[[Heatwave (Timelines)]]

Thoughts? Or does nobody really care that much? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:19, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:Since you asked, I'll pitch 2¢ into the conversation, since I know a little bit about it. I found out the hard way that wiki "doesn't bother with '(Timelines)' for Animated." And by hard way, I mean I was clobbered over the head without a hint of explanation for proposing that a Timelines-original Animated continuity character should be at "(Timelines)." But no hard feelings. I still think "franchise of origin" and not "continuity of origin" is best for disambiguations. For reasons that have been discussed previously on the subject. TransTech and SG are treated as a kind of sub-franchises of Timelines by the wiki, so I think they are an OK exception. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:00, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::The prose stories are identified as "Transformers Timelines presents a Transformers: (franchise) story". I would say that both franchises are equally valid to the stories, and the fact that non-Timelines stories (Around Cybertron, magazine comics, etc.) bleed together with Timelines stories makes the "(Timelines)" designation convoluted. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:12, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:::Well, that's different. It sounds like you are calling their actual franchise of origin into question, not just their disambiguation. I don't have an opinion about their actual franchise of origin. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:28, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::::I'm not denying that they're Timelines, but saying that they're better categorized under their other franchise. Like the Animated guys, it seems more instinctive to file [[Side Burn (Timelines)]] under "Side Burn (G1)" instead (not to mention that there's other Side Burn in Timelines: [[Side Burn (SG)]]).[[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:38, 2 November 2011 (EDT)
I'm hesitating, but let me think about the ramifications. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:20, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:I'd be fine with this. Though, one thing I'd like to propose is giving the Wings Universe characters their own disambiguation suffix. Like maybe "(Wings)" or something. I know it's a part of G1, but it's kinda like its own series within the over G1 continuity family like the Japanese G1 series are (which are also given their own suffixes such as "(Victory)", "(ROC)", "(BT)" etc.).

:Though, as for the Descent into Evil characters, maybe something like "(DIE)" or "(Descent)" or even just "(Descent into Evil)". Or, if not, keep them at "(Timelines)". --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 11:51, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::I think the DIE guys are fine where they are (although you could argue moving [[Ricochet (Timelines)]] because of [[Ricochet (SG)]], but I don't really care). As for the Wings Universe guys getting their own disambiguation, eh... [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:02, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::I am '''definitely absolutely''' against creating a (Wings) disambiguation when (G1) or (Timelines) work perfectly fine. We do NOT disambiguate by continuity except by absolute necessity within a franchise. Making up a (Wings) parenthetical just because incredibly confuses our disambiguation policy for no real reason. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:46, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::And what exactly keeps the Descent into Evil guys from being tagged G1? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:29, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:::Is the intermezzo period between G1 and BW considered G1 or BW?

:::It's all G1 characters... and IIRC the Insecticons were supposed ot be part of Insecticon plans which had been around for ages, so the characters weren't "BW-era only" characters...

:::I could support a G1 disambigif you talked me into it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:01, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::::DIE fiction (Descent into Evil itself and [[Intimidation Game]]) has elements of both BW and G1; it doesn't have a certain franchise placement. Dirge (Timelines) and Ricochet (Timelines) also have namesakes firmly in G1. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:14, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:::::BW is both BW and G1. And G1 has been back-incorporating BW elements since, like, 1995. The fact DIE has G1 and BW doesn't mean it's part of neither. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:25, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::I think that, by the nature of Timelines, it feels more natural to parse that specific set of characters by their continuity or parent-franchise of origin. Honestly, I think the Nexus components (''all'' of them) are really the best and only candidates for the Timelines parser.

::Also, I made a [http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Template:c quick template] that you guys could use here to simplify the coding for whenever you need to link a continuity-parsed name.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 15:37, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:::Unfortunately I don't think that template would work as well here, because our articles are not consistently named by franchise. For instance [[Lightspeed (G1 Technobot)]], [[Flattop (Autobot)]] and [[Impactor]] are all (G1) characters but don't use (G1) in their title, so the template wouldn't work for linking to them. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:05, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:I think that Timelines is a pretty clunky franchise for the purposes of this wiki, in that it covers multiple continuities. I think the proposal on the table makes sense.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:31, 3 November 2011 (EDT)

== Two spaces after a period in a sentence ==

I've noticed this for a while on the Wiki. In practice, it makes no difference as the software displays one space the same way it displays one. However, I've been wondering why people do it. Now I '''know: They''' were taught so in school. '''By teachers who were taught on friggin' ''typewriters''.''' So the "two spaces after a period" rule is a leftover from the typewriter days, where it was a necessity, but it's completely obsolete on computers. [http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html Source]--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 07:16, 4 November 2011 (EDT)
:The sentence spacing rules were, in fact, developed by typographers, but were not phased out via the magical introduction of the personal computer. The em-space rule exists for monospaced fonts, which were still fairly common for a great number of printers through the mid-1980s. If you would like to begin a tyrannical series of grammar-based wiki edits, I would begin by avoiding the use of prepositions at the start of sentences. I would also advise some respect for the proper use of colons and semi-colons, as typographical errors should not take priority over proper word selection and punctuation. Cheers! --[[User:McFly|McFly]] 14:20, 7 November 2011 (EST)
::Are you referring to sentences beginning with prepositional phrases for the sake of emphasis (also known as an introductory modifiers)? That's totally valid. Or do you mean idiocies such as relative clauses that are separated from the preceding main clause by a period instead of a comma? The most glaring typographic blunders I encounter on the wiki typically go hand in hand with awkwardly worded sentences and clunky terminology, so I'm inclined to assume the same person(s) is/are responsible for all of those.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 20:14, 8 November 2011 (EST)
:::I have bolded an example. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:14, 8 November 2011 (EST)
::::Aw, you altered your post. No fair! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:16, 8 November 2011 (EST)
:::::What'd I alter? I just moved it up. Anyway... I'd call that one "deliberate departure from proper grammar for the sake of dramatic emphasis". It's about as improper as using a period after ''every. Single. Word.'' If it's obvious from the context that it's done for emphasis, I'd call it acceptable as long as it's not used inflationary. I'm sure we have a few cases of "We know it's not proper grammar, but we want to stress a point here" on the wiki. (How did the saying go again? "Know the rules first before you break them"?)--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 20:28, 8 November 2011 (EST)
:....or you can just set the bot to convert " " to " ". Since we don't output monospace font, or anything.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 15:22, 7 November 2011 (EST)
::Over the whole wiki, those extra spaces account for maybe 20kb of data, which I don't think is worth worrying about. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:21, 8 November 2011 (EST)
:::Typed text is typed text, and the double-space after a period is still correct. Shall we next be told that we're "wrong" for not having the wiki use the metric system, or for writing down dates with the month before the day instead of after it? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 23:31, 8 November 2011 (EST)
::::Oh, and I bolded something too. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 23:36, 8 November 2011 (EST)
Due to habit, I'm gonna double-space until I die. I really don't think that needs to be considered a problem. Is that really a problem? An extra millimeter between sentences? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:51, 8 November 2011 (EST)

Nevermore ''is'' right about it being mostly obsolete, but for purely technical reasons: All double (triple, etc.) spaces are collapsed down to one for display in HTML. If you want the extra spaces to actually be viewable as extra blank space, you have to use <tt>&</tt><tt></tt><tt>nbsp;</tt>. So if you double-space here on the wiki, it only shows up when you edit the page. For whatever that's worth. (Not really taking sides, just presenting the info.) --[[Special:Contributions/67.252.49.31|67.252.49.31]] 06:08, 9 November 2011 (EST)

== More on the search box/"Transformers" everything ==

Typing "Energon" into the search box does not give me [[Energon (franchise)]], [[Energon (cartoon)]] or [[Energon (toyline)]] as top results. Same for "Cybertron". I assume this has to do with the recent "Transformers" prefixing for article titles. However, typing "Animated" into the seach box ''does'' give me franchise and toyline as top results, so it should be ''possible'' despite the prefixing.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 07:36, 6 November 2011 (EST)
:It's purely alphabetical, dude. ''Animated'' shows up before ''Arcee (Animated)'' because "An" precedes "Ar", whereas ''Arcee (Energon)'' comes up before ''Energon'' because "A" precedes "E". --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 08:13, 6 November 2011 (EST)
::There's an option in the search suggest tool to limit the results to stuff starting with the search query rather than with stuff with the term anywhere in their titles, however it's not something that can be configured through MediaWiki. There's a bit of discussion about it in the "Making the search suggestion work better" section up above. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:36, 6 November 2011 (EST)

== Spam-dalism ==

Is that the neologism for it? Anyway, somehow the ReCaptcha is failing to stop the automated spam, and I'm guessing the IP's are all very different.

How old are the accounts when they do this? If they're fairly new, would it be possible to simply block IPs and new accounts from inserting new external links? If not (or if that's unworkable), would it be possible to flag such edits for review the way that wikipedia does to edits on contested pages?

Also, is there any chance these are at least coming from the same proxy? The fact that they're getting past ReCaptcha makes it seem like these are actual people doing this, unless ReCaptcha only activates on certain namespaces.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 14:25, 18 November 2011 (EST)
:I was using captcha with images on my phpBB installation on another site (Doctor Who related) until yesterday and getting a half dozen spammers a day signing up in despite of it. Yesterday I switched to a Question Answer challenge which asks the person registering to name the main character's time machine, and so far it has stopped the spammers dead.
:MediaWiki has [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QuestyCaptcha QuestyCaptcha] which looks like it works in exactly the same way, and works with the ConfirmEdit extension we already have installed. If we can get that installed and set up, it might be more effective than the image-based system we use now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:39, 18 November 2011 (EST)
::What would the questions be? It can't be too obvious or too obscure. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:31, 18 November 2011 (EST)
:::Not necessarily. The question I'm using on my Doctor Who site is obvious if you have any knowledge at all of the source material, but it seems to be working. We can always start with something easy and see how we go. Most likely all of the spammers are using bots anyway. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:49, 18 November 2011 (EST)
::::"What is the name of the red-and-blue semi Autobot?", "What's the name of the blue casette player Decepticon?", or "What is the name of the yellow semi Micromaster Autobot with a hydraulic crane?"[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 17:50, 18 November 2011 (EST)
::::: "What is the fandom's usual reaction when a new franchise is announced?" :p [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:56, 18 November 2011 (EST)
::Ah, but then it would be so easy for users to use only three exclamation marks, and forget the requisite four exclamation marks and a 1.
::No but yeah, a question helps a lot. Might even be worth doing for all IP edits and new accounts, not just those with external links.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 15:57, 19 November 2011 (EST)
::While we're on the subject, is it somehow possible to flag certain terms or words used by IP editors and auto-block them? *coughcoughobamacoughcough*[[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 16:31, 19 November 2011 (EST)
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