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		<title>Talk:Soundwave (ROTF)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;114.108.194.66: /* Soundwave&amp;#039;s Packaging */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Toy in stores==&lt;br /&gt;
* I just got Soundwave in a shop in Belgium, is that even posible when this page says it&#039;s not on shelves now?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 15:51, 28 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Whaa? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What happened to my edit? I added a mainpic then it just disappeared {{unsigned|Ikkwave}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:The picture was crappy so it was removed. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 06:01, 17 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Oh ok XD [[User:Ikkwave|Ikkwave]] 01:02, 19 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Head in ROTF ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Anybody else agree on Soundwave&#039;s head in the movie actually being that armoured decoy head the toy has on the back? Looking at the toy that matches far more with what I saw on screen, but I&#039;ll know for sure near end of this week when I go and see it again.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 06:51, 29 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toy shoulders==&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;The configuration for the satellite mode depicted in the toy&#039;s instructions is not the way Soundwave appears in the film, featuring a different angling for the panels on his shoulders. It&#039;s not a big change, but transforming the toy in accordance with his movie appearance &#039;&#039;does&#039;&#039; help to distinguish the jet from the satellite a little, since otherwise, virtually the only difference is in the positioning of the large panel &amp;quot;wings&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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What, exactly, is that referring to? Although many fans (and the official press photos) skip it, the toy&#039;s instructions &#039;&#039;&#039;do&#039;&#039;&#039; show a change in the shoulder panels&#039; position between the jet and the satellite: that&#039;s the only way the satellite&#039;s panels plug into them. I tried to look at the shoulders the last time I saw the movie, but they looked like the properly transformed version. Before I just delete that section, can someone show me what I&#039;m missing? --[[User:Buttbutt|Buttbutt]] 19:32, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Essentially, the toy shows the panels folded down against the shoulders - not bent in the middle and actually plugged into the circular grooves as they are for jet and robot modes, but straight, flat and downwardly-pointing. In the film, they&#039;re rotated 90 degrees, fanned out, with the large, flat side (with the orange circle) facing outward. Well, inasmuch as what you see in the movie looks anything &#039;&#039;like&#039;&#039; the toy. He&#039;s got two panels fanned out on either side of his head. I suppose, though, after a moment of reflection, that his panels shift and move about so much in the film that it might be a bit negligible. It&#039;s just that without it, the only difference between the two modes is bending the shoulder panels down a bit and clicking the large wing-panels into them. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:42, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==New main picture==&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;Rise of the Decepticons&#039; has a good double-page picture of Soundwave hacking into the American satellite, which I feel would be a better choice for main picture as it really embodies his role in the film. Would it be okay to change it, or does TFWiki have an unofficial policy that main pictures have to be of TF&#039;s in their robot mode? [[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 05:44, 9 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Given that Soundwave doesn&#039;t use his robot mode in his most prominent fiction appearance, I think it would be fine if the article&#039;s main imagine was of his satellite mode. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 12:25, 9 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay, seeing the actual picture in question... I don&#039;t think that makes a very good main pic at all. It is dominated by the actual satellite and not Soundwave himself. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:25, 9 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I could crop it to focus entirely on Soundwave, although it looks a little odd as his main body is entirely on the left-hand side of the picture unless you crop the right wing too. I&#039;m going to try a version where it&#039;s centered on his head and see what people think.[[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 18:09, 9 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Repeat? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Did anyone else notice how two of Soundwave&#039;s scenes were the same? Specifically, his first appearance, and his last. Anyone? [[Special:Contributions/24.89.74.34|24.89.74.34]] 02:23, 10 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Soundwave&#039;s Packaging ==&lt;br /&gt;
On the back of his packaging it says, &amp;quot;Cannon converts to blade!&amp;quot; Is it me or is there a lack of cannon?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Boxotron|Boxotron]] 12:32, 23 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I believe that comes from ROTF Megatron&#039;s packaging? [[Special:Contributions/114.108.194.66|114.108.194.66]] 00:45, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New pictures ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I found the ROTF screenshots from an [http://www.fxguide.com/article551.html FX Guide] interview with [[Digital Domain]]. If anyone could resize the screencaps for me or trim the black bars, since Photoshop doesn&#039;t work on my PC, that&#039;d be much appreciated. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 07:22, 28 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rumble and Laserbeak ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should we make seperate pages for Rumble and Laserbeak? The two appeared as pods in the DLC for the game so thy deserve a page! and I don&#039;t care if they weren&#039;t officially named, half the animated characters are unnamed! like &amp;quot;freeway&amp;quot; &amp;quot;carerra&amp;quot; so lets make a Rumble page and a Laserbeak Page! there is no reason we shouldn&#039;t!{{unsigned|92.238.187.82|13:10, September 2, 2009 (EDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
:If pages for them are created with enough effort put into them to make them presentable, they won&#039;t be deleted. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:45, 2 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Then lets do it!{{unsigned|92.238.187.82|15:07, September 11, 2009 (EDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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They are in Nefarious 1, pictures requested.&lt;br /&gt;
-ThiAthEhn&lt;br /&gt;
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== Is it really necessary? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we lose the tentacle rape line? What if kids are reading this?&lt;br /&gt;
: [[Kiss Players issue 1]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:07, 14 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::What if &#039;&#039;non-Japanese&#039;&#039; kids are reading this? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:13, 14 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, then we&#039;ll have to delete all the Kiss Players articles, won&#039;t we? I mean, if the word &amp;quot;rape&amp;quot; is unacceptable, then the visuals they include are right out, aren&#039;t they? ;-P - &#039;&#039;&#039;McFeely, not signed in&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sweet! Oh... You are being sarcastic. I suggested that a while back but Scout shot the idea down. Personally, I think KP should not be called attention to by linking from completely unrelated articles for the sake of a... joke?. Seriously, I don&#039;t think we&#039;re doing Hasbro any favors. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:38, 14 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Oh, I take no issue with idea of removing the word-linking. Joke works on its own without needing the link. I take issue with the whole &amp;quot;Think of the children!&amp;quot; argument. &amp;quot;What if kids are reading this?&amp;quot; is not a workable argument for removing something from the wiki when official things like &#039;&#039;Kiss Players&#039;&#039; exist. - &#039;&#039;&#039;McFeely&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
::::::If Hasbro were that concerned about children stumbling onto &amp;quot;inappropriate&amp;quot; Transformers content, maybe they shouldn&#039;t have had that blockbuster movie with the swearing and the humping and the testicles.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:08, 14 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We totally need a screen shot of the satellite with a caption along the lines of &amp;quot;Why what&#039;s such a fine little satellite like you doing all alone out here in space?&amp;quot;, also I think my image caption is awesome and it should stay the way it is. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 14:30, 14 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Soundwave RPM ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why isn&#039;t it listed among his toys and merchandise? could someone please give me a coherent answer?.------[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 23:00, 16 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;No one has gotten around to it yet&amp;quot;. It&#039;s been officially revealed, both at Toy Fair 2010 and on [http://bwtf.com/node/1304 BWTF], so that&#039;s not an issue in this case. It might simply be a matter of waiting for the Hasbro stock photography to be released. (I forget who does most of the RPM updates... abates or apoc, I think?)&lt;br /&gt;
:Anyway, you might try adding &amp;quot;please&amp;quot; next time. Your statement came off as a bit impolite. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 23:20, 16 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry, was in a rush, tried to add the toy to the page but remembered to ask first before making any important edit&lt;br /&gt;
------[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 01:18, 17 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I have already seen the toy in MercadoLibre (the mexican equivalent of eBay) and there&#039;s still no photo of RPM Soundwave? BTW, I believe his Legends toy needs a description, I&#039;ll take of it later.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 22:27, 25 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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