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Talk:BotCon

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Most of this is admittedly taken from the Wikipedia entry, although I have done a fair bit of editing on it (mostly to try to fix the many, many links in it, and also to remove stuff explicitly about OTFCC, but not about Botcon, since I think OTFCC should have [already has?] it's own article.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 18:13, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
: IIRC, the article was largely written by this wiki's own Hooper X, so it's not that big a deal to use it, I figger. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:18, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
::It totally was! So play with it as you see fit! [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:37, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
: We can further alter it, of course. I mean, I'm of the opinion each show should have its own article where most of that guest/toy/location information should go, but other tidbits. Significant events at the shows, whatr Hasbro revealed, that sort of thing. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:34, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
:: I'm certainly fine with this. It just seemed to me that there was a need for a more complete entry (i.e., not just one line), and this seemed like one that the existing Wikipedia was (largely) appropriate for (I don't advocate importing Wikipedia entries in general).--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 20:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
::: Sure. It's a good general overview for wikipedia... and a good base to cannibalize and expand on via multiple articles for our far superior TF wiki. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:47, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
::::I think doing what Siph suggested would be totally awesome. A full page for each year's official 'con, with summaries of panels, guests, pretty much anything we can pull out of the programs. Exclusives, etc. That'd be cool. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:37, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::I mean... there HAS to be information like how the Wu Tang Clan fans caused the evacuation of the hotel and the trashing of the third floor at '97. No, it's not DIRECTLY BC info, but it's some heavy shit that's relevant. (Okay, plus there was the MSTF quip, but still.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:41, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
::::::You know, seriously? In retrospect, I wish I had gone to the Wu-Tang show instead. Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothin' to fuck with. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 01:05, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

==The end of 3H==
Where can I find more info about the departure of the Hartmans? --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 14:37, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

:Not a lot of it is "public" information. What's written here can probably be expanded, though. I, or somebody, can try to get to it soon. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:52, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

==TransformersCon==
Is that an official TF convention or even affiliated with BotCon? If not... why is the link down the bottom? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:55, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

==Sentinel Prime==
Where's this from? [[User:Chip|Chip]] 12:50, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Botcon 2007. One of the Pannels. From what I understand originally (wasn't there myself) there was a whole different set in planning for this year, which is where Alpha Trion stems from and why he's not in any of the Con fiction. They apparently dumped whatever that concept was (including Sentinel Prime) in favor of Springer and co. but kept Alpha Trion anyway because they just really liked him. I don't know if they said what the others were besides Sentinel. Anyone know?

:That sounds roughly correct, but I don't have my notes on me. If I remember, I will check tonight. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 17:36, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
::I have checked, and the anonymous poster's statements are accurate. This was revealed at the Club Roundtable panel. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 21:26, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

== Intro sentence ==

Unless we're considering OTFCC a "form" of BotCon (which I personally do), the first sentence is in error; BotCon was not held in any form in 2003. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 23:58, 1 January 2010 (EST)
: It was held in OTFCC form in 2003. That's the entire reason why "in one form or another" is there in the sentence. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:21, 2 January 2010 (EST)
::That was my point. OTFCC is treated in some places as just a variant of BotCon and in others as something different. The very fact that the OTFCC links are "see also's" and not in line with the BotCon links makes it seem like something different. I just think it should be consistent, whichever way is the official one. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 00:26, 2 January 2010 (EST)

== Guest list ==

In reference to Thylacine2000's recent edit summary, I propose that we remove the massive list of guests from this article and refer people to each year's page. A note about who has the most appearances might be in order as well. Looking over the article, the locations and exclusive toys lists should also probably be trimmed. This page should be about things that pertain to ALL BotCons, not each individually. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:35, 29 September 2010 (EDT)
:(Coming back to draw interest to this topic.) Is there any support for changing this page from its current state (basically combining all information from the individual year pages) into a "hub" page giving only a brief overview for each subtopic while directing readers to each page for more details. A box like that used to list each individual issue on the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel comic]] page could be used for linking to the individual years. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:11, 11 October 2010 (EDT)
::I've mocked up my proposal at [[User:Khajidha/sandbox/botcon]]. I think we should take this opportunity to merge [[The Official Transformers Collectors Convention]] page into this one as well. Feedback? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:49, 24 October 2010 (EDT)
:::I really prefer what you've put together to the increasingly unstable and top-heavy tower we have now. I actually just logged in so I could add the guest list for BC10 to our current page, but as I started to type the same old "Archer, Lombardo, Rowley, Cullen, McNeill, Tipton" thing for what would be like the 7th time in a row on the same page I just couldn't go on with it. For something as central to the fandom as BC is, I think we owe it to ourselves to present a readable overview and not a never-ending and at this point extremely repetitive list. However, making a change this significant would require more user comments than just the two of us. Anybody? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 11:42, 21 November 2010 (EST)
::::Move the table of BotCon links from the bottom up at the top, and I'm cool with the proposed change. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:51, 21 November 2010 (EST)
:::::Should we take this opportunity to make OTFCC redirect here? There really isn't much that can be said about it aside from the history of why it happened, which is really a part of the overview of BotCon history. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:31, 21 November 2010 (EST)
:::::I've moved information about those conventions without current pages of their own to [[User:Khajidha/sandbox/botcon]] so that it can be easily found for use. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:52, 21 November 2010 (EST)

==Overhaul==
Okay... I don't remember what brought me to this page, but as I read it... it's kind of... embarrassingly outdated and perfunctory. Removing all the individual years' nitpicky data is good and all, but... we've been left with a meatless skeleton of an article. Seriously, look at the "exclusive fiction" section. What a fucking joke. "It exists". No info on trends, evolutions, additions. Nothing on the conventions moving from year to year. No note how 2002 becoming officially "official" was only really publicly acknowledging that it basically already WAS since '97. 
I did a little tweaking to the toys section, but it needs a LOT more. That the largest section of this page is the ''list of toys '''NOT''' produced for BotCon'' is too sad to be hilariously awful. This is Transformers fucking MECCA and our page on it is good for little more than the link-chart up top to the individual conventions. '''This page should be something we would have as a Featured Article.''' --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:17, 29 January 2011 (EST)
:Agreed. I removed the nitpicky stuff because it is better served on the individual pages, but I did not know what to put in its place as I have never been to a BotCon (***SOB***). --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:34, 29 January 2011 (EST)
::Really liking the new page, just how much was missing wasn't really apparent until the extraneous detail was removed. Repeating my question from the previous section: Should we take this opportunity to make OTFCC redirect here? There really isn't much that can be said about it aside from the history of why it happened and why it stopped happening, which is really a part of the overview of BotCon history.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:34, 31 January 2011 (EST)

== OTFCC 2005 ==

Aside from the unproduced toys do we have any information about what was planned for OTFCC 2005? Was a location picked? Had anyone agreed to make appearances? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:01, 21 July 2011 (EDT)

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Talk:Board Wars

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Jesus, could this article have any LESS information? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:47, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on winning Board Wars this year! [[User:Angela|Angela]]<staff /> ([[User talk:Angela|talk]]) 09:54, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Know what's funny? 
If Trent Troop and I hadn't been in the room waiting to talk to Brian Savage about something totally unrelated at the start of the Board Wars... no victory. 
(Also funny, someone whining and effectively calling "cheating" by saying the wiki team wrote most of this year's questions... even though near as I can tell, nobody actually ON the team had sent in questions. And you mean to tell me nobody from the OTHER teams sent in questions?) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:06, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I can't wait for Monzo to upload the photo of us his mom took. Every article on the Wiki needs at least one image. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 00:59, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
:You're so vain... you probably think this article's about you... --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 05:48, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

::Congrats guys. Crush the other fandom boards we are part of anyway! :P :D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

:::I wish I had known the Wiki was gonna participate, I skiped the Board Wars stuff this year to hang out in the dealers room. I would have definately stopped by if I'd known we were in it.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 10:28, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Was someone legitimately complaining about "cheating"? I know I mentioned a few times that you guys wrote all the questions, but it was just poking fun. If anybody got that bent out of shape about it, they really need to check their priorities. It was all in good fun. --[[User:Spectre|Spectre]] 16:23, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

: And you'll always have Lexington. :D -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 17:32, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

==Stub==
Is it really? I don't think there's really anything more to be said. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 00:30, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

:It would help to tell readers the format (three multiple-choice rounds with increasing point values, etc.) and the boards represented. Who all ''did'' compete? Us, Allspark, TFW2005, Seibertron, the club forum... TFormers was there, right? -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 00:58, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

::You know, we're still waiting for people who actually went to Botcon to update the articles about...... Botcon. So I'm stubbing this article because it needs more information so it doesn't looking like a self-wank page for certain members who were on the winning Allspark and Wiki trivia teams. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:04, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

===2008===
Did we win? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:16, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

== 2009 ==

Hey, was there a Board Wars this year? I can't see mention of it on the [[BotCon 2009]] article or the official site. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:56, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:No Board Wars this year. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 19:41, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
::Darn! I kinda figured as much, since I'd have expected someone would have mentioned it by now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:53, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:::With the Paramount Party? I doubt they would've been able to squeeze it in, short of having pre-reg pick-up one day earlier. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 21:09, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:::The Paramount Party took place at night, and the Board Wars segments happened during the day, amongst the panels. There would have been no more conflict than in previous years. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:25, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Aw, they were probably just tired of the wiki kickin' everyone's ass. :D - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:53, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::That, and at 2008, Monzo asked why the Board Wars were the only contest at BotCon without a cash reward. Ahahaha. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:57, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::: So basically, we killed Board Wars. Excellent. [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 09:28, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::: "Board Wars" makes it sound like it was an even fight. I'm surprised those other teams even know who Optimus Prime is! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:40, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::Wasn't he that truck guy? Or was he the one with the cool voice? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:12, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::: That's another for the Wiki's endless rotation of slogans. "TFWiki.net: We killed Board Wars." --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 11:25, 13 July 2009 (EDT)

==Ranking==

I see we've bolded the winners, but do we have the info on who finished 2nd, 3rd and so on (if, indeed, it was ranked that way; I never attended one)? Or are we intentionally not including that info because we don't wanna hurt any feelings? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 12:01, 13 July 2009 (EDT)

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