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Talk:Nemesis Prime (Animated)

2012-01-12T06:54:36Z

118.209.85.95:

This is probably a "no", but has there been any merchandising info to suggest that [[:Image:AniVoyagerOptimusBlackVersion.jpg|Black Optimus]] is meant to be a Nemesis?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:55, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
:As I understand it, Nemesis Prime ''is'' Black Optimus repurposed. And by "repurposed," I believe I mean "has a Decepticon symbol instead of an Autobot one." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
::In that case, would it be okay to put that toy section up on this article?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:33, 10 June 2011 (EDT)

== Reference to Alt Nemesis Prime ==
"Yeah, except this one was stolen by Straxus, not lost in a timehole."
Which is exactly my point. Instead of thinking the reference is wrong because one mentions Straxus and one doesn't, look at the events. In both cases, immediately after their creation, they both vanish mysteriously; Animated by Straxus' hand, Binaltech by Optimus Primal's spark. No, they're not exactly the same, which is why it's a reference, not a recreation. Particularly as the article is claiming to know better than the official record (DJW). {{unsigned|118.209.85.95}}
:Yeah, except DJW said the bit about Straxus was taken from Alt Nemesis Prime's bio. Not the bit about "vanishing soon after his creation". Straxus having to do with Nemesis Prime comes from the Universe toy bio. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:20, 12 January 2012 (EST)
:: The article doesn't say that at all; that the involvement of Straxus (period) being a reference to <strike>Alt</strike> U2.0 Nem Prime. It says "the bit about ''Straxus taking command of Nemesis''". Which doesn't match up with the Universe 2.0 bio; Straxus essentially created U2.0 N.P, not took command of him. So, what you seem to have here is a dual-reference of "[[Nemesis_Prime_%28G1%29#Universe_Classic_Series_toy_bio|Straxus]] [[Nemesis_Prime_(G1)#Story_of_Binaltech|taking command of Nemesis (not forgetting all the vanishing)]]". {{unsigned|118.209.85.95}}

Talk:Nemesis Prime (Animated)

2012-01-12T06:41:13Z

118.209.85.95:

This is probably a "no", but has there been any merchandising info to suggest that [[:Image:AniVoyagerOptimusBlackVersion.jpg|Black Optimus]] is meant to be a Nemesis?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:55, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
:As I understand it, Nemesis Prime ''is'' Black Optimus repurposed. And by "repurposed," I believe I mean "has a Decepticon symbol instead of an Autobot one." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
::In that case, would it be okay to put that toy section up on this article?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:33, 10 June 2011 (EDT)

== Reference to Alt Nemesis Prime ==
"Yeah, except this one was stolen by Straxus, not lost in a timehole."
Which is exactly my point. Instead of thinking the reference is wrong because one mentions Straxus and one doesn't, look at the events. In both cases, immediately after their creation, they both vanish mysteriously; Animated by Straxus' hand, Binaltech by Optimus Primal's spark. No, they're not exactly the same, which is why it's a reference, not a recreation. Particularly as the article is claiming to know better than the official record (DJW).
:Yeah, except DJW said the bit about Straxus was taken from Alt Nemesis Prime's bio. Not the bit about "vanishing soon after his creation". Straxus having to do with Nemesis Prime comes from the Universe toy bio. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:20, 12 January 2012 (EST)
:: The article doesn't say that at all; that the involvement of Straxus (period) being a reference to <strike>Alt</strike> U2.0 Nem Prime. It says "the bit about ''Straxus taking command of Nemesis''". Which doesn't match up with the Universe 2.0 bio; Straxus essentially created U2.0 N.P, not took command of him. So, what you seem to have here is a dual-reference of "[[Nemesis_Prime_%28G1%29#Universe_Classic_Series_toy_bio|Straxus]] [[Nemesis_Prime_(G1)#Story_of_Binaltech|taking command of Nemesis]]".

Talk:Nemesis Prime (Animated)

2012-01-12T06:31:04Z

118.209.85.95:

This is probably a "no", but has there been any merchandising info to suggest that [[:Image:AniVoyagerOptimusBlackVersion.jpg|Black Optimus]] is meant to be a Nemesis?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:55, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
:As I understand it, Nemesis Prime ''is'' Black Optimus repurposed. And by "repurposed," I believe I mean "has a Decepticon symbol instead of an Autobot one." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
::In that case, would it be okay to put that toy section up on this article?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:33, 10 June 2011 (EDT)

== Reference to Alt Nemesis Prime ==
"Yeah, except this one was stolen by Straxus, not lost in a timehole."
Which is exactly my point. Instead of thinking the reference is wrong because one mentions Straxus and one doesn't, look at the events. In both cases, immediately after their creation, they both vanish mysteriously; Animated by Straxus' hand, Binaltech by Optimus Primal's spark. No, they're not exactly the same, which is why it's a reference, not a recreation. Particularly as the article is claiming to know better than the official record (DJW).
:Yeah, except DJW said the bit about Straxus was taken from Alt Nemesis Prime's bio. Not the bit about "vanishing soon after his creation". Straxus having to do with Nemesis Prime comes from the Universe toy bio. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:20, 12 January 2012 (EST)
:: The article doesn't say that at all. It says "the bit about ''Straxus taking command of Nemesis''" which doesn't match up with the Universe 2.0 bio; Straxus essentially created U2.0 N.P, not took command of him. So, what you seem to have here is a dual-reference of "[[Nemesis_Prime_%28G1%29#Universe_Classic_Series_toy_bio|Straxus]] [[Nemesis_Prime_(G1)#Story_of_Binaltech|taking command of Nemesis]]".

Talk:Nemesis Prime (Animated)

2012-01-12T06:15:42Z

118.209.85.95:

Nemesis Prime (Animated)

2012-01-12T05:53:30Z

118.209.85.95: /* Notes */ the Alt N.P. reference might be to similar events, not necessarily Straxus.

{{faction|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Nemesis Prime}}
:''Nemesis Prime is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:NemesisPrimeAnimated-model.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Wait, I'm a real character? Oh crap, there were only 300 of me!]]
'''Nemesis Prime''' is the culmination of the Decepticons' experiments in copying Autobot shells, which also included [[Toxitron (Animated)|Toxitron]] and [[Team Stunticon]].<ref>[[Toxitron (Animated)|Toxitron]]'s toy bio</ref> Upon completion, he was quickly snatched away by [[Straxus (Animated)|Straxus]], and no-one has seen him since.<ref>Nemesis Prime's bio, BotCon 2011 Decepticon bio poster</ref>

It's probably too much to hope he stays hidden away.
{{TOCclear}}

==Toys==
===Animated===
[[Image:AniVoyagerOptimusBlackVersion.jpg|thumb|300px|Bet you wish you'd got me ''now'', huh?]]
* '''Optimus Prime Black Ver.''' (Voyager, 2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TA-01'''
**''Accessories'': Axe/backpack, water cannon

: Nemesis Prime is an official [[repurposing]] of the [[TakaraTomy]] "[[Optimus Prime (Animated)/toys#VoyBlackVersion|Optimus Prime Black Ver.]]" toy, which was available [[exclusive]]ly at the Japanese "Transformers Museum" event held at the Seibu department store in Otsu, Shiga Prefecture from [[August 3]]rd to [[August 8]]th, 2010. The figure was limited to 300 pieces, cost 4,200 yen, and came in a grayscale version of the original toy's box with a golden sticker on the window declaring its name.

: A [[redeco]] of the [[Optimus Prime (Animated)/toys#Voyager Class|Voyager Class Optimus Prime toy]], "Nemesis Prime" transforms into a futuristic Earth-mode fire truck (well, the front half of one, at least). His rear portion includes a giant extinguisher cannon, which can become a hand weapon and [[Water-squirting gimmick|really squirts water]]. His trailer also transforms into a giant double-bladed axe. These weapons can store on his back, giving the appearance of wings and a jet pack. Like his deluxe-class toys, Prime can also hold his axe two-handed, albeit not as easily achieved compared to the deluxe versions. The toy features a mouthplate which can slide up to cover his face or retract down below. He also has an [[Automorph Technology|Automorph]] feature: Pressing a button on his back flips down and rotates his lower body into the proper position for robot mode.

: This mold was also used to make [[The Motor Master]] and [[Toxitron (Animated)|Toxitron]].

==Notes==
* Nemesis Prime has only appeared (so far) on the [[BotCon 2011]] exclusive ''Animated'' Decepticon [[bio]] & [[Tech Spec]] lithograph, but [[The AllSpark Almanac Addendum]] promises an Almanac-style profile for him in the future.
* According to character designer [[Derrick J. Wyatt]], the bit about Straxus taking command of Nemesis is a reference to the [[Nemesis Prime (G1)#Alternators|''Alternators'' Nemesis Prime's]] bio. He was most likely intending to refer to his [[Nemesis Prime (G1)#Universe Classic Series toy bio|''Universe 2.0'' bio]], however, as the Alternators bio has no mention of Straxus whatsoever (although the bio for ''Binaltech'' Black Convoy refers to him vanishing into a time warp soon after being created by Doctor Arkeville).

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Animated Decepticons]]
[[Category:Convention-original characters]]
[[Category:Evil clones]]
[[Category:Repurposed toys]]

Nemesis Prime (Animated)

2012-01-12T05:53:08Z

118.209.85.95: /* Notes */

{{faction|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Nemesis Prime}}
:''Nemesis Prime is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:NemesisPrimeAnimated-model.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Wait, I'm a real character? Oh crap, there were only 300 of me!]]
'''Nemesis Prime''' is the culmination of the Decepticons' experiments in copying Autobot shells, which also included [[Toxitron (Animated)|Toxitron]] and [[Team Stunticon]].<ref>[[Toxitron (Animated)|Toxitron]]'s toy bio</ref> Upon completion, he was quickly snatched away by [[Straxus (Animated)|Straxus]], and no-one has seen him since.<ref>Nemesis Prime's bio, BotCon 2011 Decepticon bio poster</ref>

It's probably too much to hope he stays hidden away.
{{TOCclear}}

==Toys==
===Animated===
[[Image:AniVoyagerOptimusBlackVersion.jpg|thumb|300px|Bet you wish you'd got me ''now'', huh?]]
* '''Optimus Prime Black Ver.''' (Voyager, 2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TA-01'''
**''Accessories'': Axe/backpack, water cannon

: Nemesis Prime is an official [[repurposing]] of the [[TakaraTomy]] "[[Optimus Prime (Animated)/toys#VoyBlackVersion|Optimus Prime Black Ver.]]" toy, which was available [[exclusive]]ly at the Japanese "Transformers Museum" event held at the Seibu department store in Otsu, Shiga Prefecture from [[August 3]]rd to [[August 8]]th, 2010. The figure was limited to 300 pieces, cost 4,200 yen, and came in a grayscale version of the original toy's box with a golden sticker on the window declaring its name.

: A [[redeco]] of the [[Optimus Prime (Animated)/toys#Voyager Class|Voyager Class Optimus Prime toy]], "Nemesis Prime" transforms into a futuristic Earth-mode fire truck (well, the front half of one, at least). His rear portion includes a giant extinguisher cannon, which can become a hand weapon and [[Water-squirting gimmick|really squirts water]]. His trailer also transforms into a giant double-bladed axe. These weapons can store on his back, giving the appearance of wings and a jet pack. Like his deluxe-class toys, Prime can also hold his axe two-handed, albeit not as easily achieved compared to the deluxe versions. The toy features a mouthplate which can slide up to cover his face or retract down below. He also has an [[Automorph Technology|Automorph]] feature: Pressing a button on his back flips down and rotates his lower body into the proper position for robot mode.

: This mold was also used to make [[The Motor Master]] and [[Toxitron (Animated)|Toxitron]].

==Notes==
* Nemesis Prime has only appeared (so far) on the [[BotCon 2011]] exclusive ''Animated'' Decepticon [[bio]] & [[Tech Spec]] lithograph, but [[The AllSpark Almanac Addendum]] promises an Almanac-style profile for him in the future.
* According to character designer [[Derrick J. Wyatt]], the bit about Straxus taking command of Nemesis is a reference to the [[Nemesis Prime (G1)#Alternators|''Alternators'' Nemesis Prime's]] bio. He was most likely intending to refer to his [[Nemesis Prime (G1)#Universe Classic Series toy bio|''Universe 2.0'' bio]], however, as the Alternators bio has no mention of Straxus whatsoever (although the bio for ''Binaltech'' Black Convoy refers to him vanishing into a time warp soon after being created by Doctor Arkeville).<-- the Alt N.P. reference might be to similar events, not necessarily Straxus. -->

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Animated Decepticons]]
[[Category:Convention-original characters]]
[[Category:Evil clones]]
[[Category:Repurposed toys]]