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&lt;div&gt;{{factions|autobot}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{disambig3|Jetfire}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{disambig3|Sky Shadow}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{picsneeded|fictional appearances}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Jetfire is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]]. He sometimes masquerades as a [[Decepticon]] using the name &#039;&#039;&#039;Sky Shadow&#039;&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Jetfireut.jpg|right|300px|thumb|&amp;quot;I&#039;m as dry as a dead Dingo&#039;s donger!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; is probably the best second-in-command [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] could conceivably have.  Jetfire is more than a yes-man; he&#039;s the crucial link between Prime&#039;s role-necessitated distance and his troops.  Though professional and businesslike, Jetfire infuses his interactions with a down-to-earth friendliness.  And where Optimus Prime is cautious, Jetfire is more prone to tempered bursts of gusto and bravado.  While Optimus Prime is your leader who&#039;s your leader, Jetfire is your leader who&#039;s your friend. Because of this, Jetfire is very popular among the Autobots.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Most importantly, Jetfire is one of the only Autobots who will tell Optimus Prime to his face when he thinks he&#039;s wrong.  It is this trait that makes Jetfire indispensable.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jetfire has a long-lost brother [[Overcast (Energon)|Overcast]], and while the two are quite similar in many ways, Jetfire is &#039;&#039;far&#039;&#039; more willing and eager to jump into battle than Overcast.&lt;br /&gt;
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He has a Decepticon alter-ego, &#039;&#039;&#039;Sky Shadow&#039;&#039;&#039;, which he affects when doing undercover missions.  He found the name in history archives which referred to a [[Sky Shadow (Cybertron)|Sky Shadow]] from the legendary [[Beast Wars]].  Nobody&#039;s really sure how that works.  Maybe it&#039;s that bloody [[Unicron Singularity]]&#039;s doing.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Japanese &#039;&#039;Super Link&#039;&#039; name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Skyfire&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese &#039;&#039;Galaxy Force&#039;&#039; name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Dreadlock&#039;&#039;&#039; / &#039;&#039;&#039;Dreadrock&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Hungarian &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Lángcsóva&#039;&#039;&#039; (meaning &amp;quot;Flame-burst&amp;quot; or summin&#039; to that effect) -- this translation is also used in the &#039;&#039;Ultimate Battle DVD&#039;&#039; episode.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Hungarian &#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039; name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Röptűz&#039;&#039;&#039; (his original, G1 name, meaning &amp;quot;Flyfire&amp;quot;); although he&#039;s called Lángcsóva at least at one occasion in the series.&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Polish &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Myśliwiec&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
{{charstub}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cartoon continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Scott McNeil]] (US), [[Susumu Chiba]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
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Before Optimus Prime and his squad left for [[Earth]] in response to the [[Mini-Con]] signal, he left Jetfire in command of the remaining Autobot forces on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Much later, Optimus Prime requested Jetfire&#039;s assistance as the battle for the Mini-Cons reached a dangerous point with the discovery of the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber sword]] and the [[Skyboom Shield]]. As Jetfire made his way to Earth, he was followed by the Megatron loyalist [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]], who had similarly been requested by the Decepticon strategist [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]].  {{storylink|Chase (episode)|Chase}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Thrust&#039;s arrival quickly improved Decepticon battle strategy, sending the Autobot forces on Earth into disarray. Optimus Prime himself would have been defeated if not for the timely arrival of Jetfire, who quickly defeated the surprised Decepticon air power and forced the rest into retreat.  {{storylink|Tactician|Tactician}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Jetfire was quickly installed as second in command, but as everybody who had never served with him discovered, he was a very different kind of &#039;bot compared to the reserved Optimus Prime. Where Optimus was cautious and analytical, Jetfire was brash and headstrong to the point of recklessness, jumping into the unknown without considering the consequences. As a result, in his first major battle with the Decepticons, Jetfire decided to take all of their air forces on by himself, getting himself into serious trouble. Fortunately, Optimus Prime had recovered enough from his injuries to launch a counter-attack on the Decepticons and unleash his secret weapon - the ability to Powerlink with Jetfire, resulting in the powerful Jet Optimus.   {{storylink|Linkup|Linkup}}&lt;br /&gt;
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During a battle on a distant beach over a new mysterious [[Mini-Con storage panel]], Optimus Prime and Jetfire once again combined into Jet Optimus to take the fight to the Decepticons. However, even Jet Optimus&#039; power was tested by the arrival of Tidal Wave. The giant Decepticon&#039;s sheer strength and firepower forced Jet Optimus on the backfoot, and in their shared gestalt mind, both Optimus and Jetfire were at a loss as what to do.  {{storylink|Awakening|Awakening}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Scott McNeil]] (US), [[Nobuyuki Hiyama]] (Japan), [[Johan Hedenberg]] (Sweden)&lt;br /&gt;
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During the ten years since the defeat of [[Unicron]], Jetfire was upgraded into a new, more advanced body uploaded with the [[Spark of Combination]], which granted him the ability to [[Powerlinx|powerlink]] with other compatible robots. Jetfire was selected by Optimus Prime to accompany him and [[Inferno (Energon)|Inferno]] to [[Mars]] to investigate a mysterious attack on the [[Energon (Energon)|energon]] mining colony there by a group of [[Terrorcon (Energon)|mysterious bestial transformers]]. Jetfire was less than pleased when the inexperienced and immature [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]] wanted to tag along merely to satisfy his hero worship of [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]], but decided to let the youngster come along after Optimus Prime left the decision to Jetfire. After surveying the damage on Mars, Jetfire quickly destroyed a large number of [[Divebomb (Energon)|avian drones]] attacking [[Ocean City]] on Earth.  {{storylink|Cybertron City (episode)|Cybertron City}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Soon afterward, the mining colony on Earth&#039;s [[Moon (moon)|Moon]] was attacked by the same mysterious energon-eating creatures. Tasked with conducting reconnaissance, Jetfire and Kicker fought their way through dozens of the bird drones, with the gifted human playing a crucial role in their successful mission.  {{storylink|Energon Stars|Energon Stars}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After Ironhide acquitted himself with distinction during the mission on the Moon, Jetfire practiced powerlinking with the younger Autobot, who, unfortunately, could not time the sequence properly. The reason behind the attacks was (partially) revealed when the powerful [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]], commander of the beast transformers known as the Terrorcons, attacked [[Plain City]]. Jetfire arrived with the Autobot reinforcements and finally successfully powerlinked with Ironhide, allowing the young Autobot the honor of being the controlling component of their combined form.  {{storylink|Scorpinok|Scorpinok}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Brian Drummond]] (US), [[Hideo Ishikawa]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:CybJetfire01.jpg|right|250px|thumb|I&amp;amp;#39;m a registered bookbinder from Brisbane!]]&lt;br /&gt;
After the second defeat of Unicron, Jetfire resettled on [[Nebulon]] for an indeterminate period of time. Over time, he adopted a [[Accents|local accent]], one that sounded very vaguely like Earth-Australian to certain [[Human|humans]]. Jetfire appeared to have mellowed in the past 20 years. He was considerably more cautious compared to his reckless youth, and adhered much more closely to orders and protocol. Perhaps all those brushes with death have finally knocked some sense into his head, or [[Headmaster (technology)|his head was replaced]] while on Nebulon. He returned to Cybertron, his homeworld once again facing a monumental crisis, perhaps the worst in its history.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a backup plan, Optimus Prime ordered Jetfire to visit Earth and provide them with scans of Earthen vehicle modes for the population of Cybertron to adopt. This was done so that should their primary plan of destroying the [[Unicron Singularity]] fail, the population of Cybertron could assume disguises and relocate to the human homeworld, whose inhabitants were still largely unaware of the existence of real Transformers.  {{storylink|Fallen (episode)|Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After the final battle with [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]], peace spread across the galaxy.  As part of a new initiative, Optimus Prime left aboard the starship &#039;&#039;[[Atlantis]]&#039;&#039; to chart new territory, leaving Jetfire in charge of planet Cybertron.  {{storylink|End|End}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Free boonie hats for all!&lt;br /&gt;
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===Dreamwave comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jetfireblurrsideswiperhinoxoverload.jpg|left|300px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
Jetfire was initially unimpressed with Optimus Prime, feeling that Prime had abandoned the Autobots on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] for affairs on Earth. He soon saw eye-to-eye with his commander once more when the stakes of [[Unicron]]&#039;s coming were revealed.&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Armada===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire with Comettor&#039;&#039;&#039; (Giga-Con, 2003)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;MC-09&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories&#039;&#039;: [[Comettor]] Mini-Con, electronic shuttle engine/gun, 2 missiles and a shield&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Armada Jetfire toy1.jpg|right|160px|thumb|&amp;quot;May all your chooks turn to emus and kick your dunny door flat to the grass!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Jetfire is a futuristic space shuttle molded primarily in white and gray with red paint stripes resembling the stripes seen on the original [[Jetfire (G1)|G1 Jetfire]]. His Mini-Con Comettor serves as his front landing gear and forward gun in vehicle mode. When Comettor (or any other Mini-Con) is connected to the Powerlinx ports on his wings, a large red missile/bomb is dropped. When connected to Jetfire&#039;s main engine, two small wings are deployed for atmospheric flight. In robot mode Jetfire&#039;s rear landing gear becomes a shield, and his main engine forms his rifle. &lt;br /&gt;
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:When the tail fin of Armada Jetfire&#039;s engine/weapon is pressed downward, it activates the original Generation 1 Autobot &amp;quot;laser&amp;quot; sound effect. Pressing the tail fin upwards (perhaps by placing the shuttle upright as if in launching mode) activates a rather garbled  blast-off countdown sequence. Both sounds are also &#039;&#039;incredibly &#039;&#039;easy to trigger. When a Mini-Con is powerlinxed to the gun/engine, a different laser gun sound is heard. Prior to the release of &#039;&#039;Powerlinx&#039;&#039; Jetfire, a [[running change]] erm, changed the sound effects.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jetfire could combine with the Super Base class Optimus Prime to form &#039;&#039;&#039;Jet Optimus&#039;&#039;&#039;, by replacing the regular Super mode trailer legs and attaching Jetfire&#039;s shield onto Prime&#039;s chest. Additionally, the shield design resembles the chest armour of &#039;&#039;Generation 1&#039;&#039; [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Powermaster Optimus Prime Apex Armour]]/[[Ginrai|God Ginrai]].&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Japanese release includes a much brighter white plastic, a lack of battle wear and heat re-entry burn decos, more detailed paint operations throughout his body and accessories as well as different plastic colors.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This mold was also used to make the [[Transformers Collectors Club]] [[exclusive]] [[Astrotrain (Timelines)|Astrotrain]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:PL Jetfire toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|&amp;quot;Don&#039;t come the raw prawn with me, sport, or I&#039;ll show you the rough end of a pineapple!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Powerlinx Jetfire with Comettor&#039;&#039;&#039; (Giga-Con, 2003)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; [[Comettor]] Mini-Con, electronic shuttle engine/gun, 2 missiles and a shield&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Powerlinx redeco of Jetfire replaces much of the gray and red with blue, in a color scheme very similar to the &#039;&#039;Macross/Robotech&#039;&#039; Valkyrie fighter jet flown by Maximillian Jenius/Sterling.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Golden Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Giga-Con, 2003)&lt;br /&gt;
: A redeco of Jetfire with golden [[vacuum metallizing]]. It was a first prize of the [[wikipedia:sortition|sortition]] and only exclusive in certain stores and department stores. There is a golden vacuum metalizing Armada Prime as another first prize. They can combine into Golden Jet Prime, of course.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Energon===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Mega, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;SC-05&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Spring-loaded missile launcher and 1 missile&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Energon Jetfire toy.jpg|right|170px|thumb|&amp;quot;If it was raining virgins I&amp;amp;#39;d get washed down the drain with a poofta.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Jetfire transforms again into a white and red futuristic space shuttle, this time in the smaller Mega size class and with the ability to combine with most other Autobot Deluxe and Mega Energon toys. He features an electronic transforming sound effect that activates when another Autobot combines with him.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Japanese version of this toy does not feature any of the electronics, uses red translucent plastic in place of orange, and has a sticker covering the now-absent battery compartment.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This mold was also used to make &#039;&#039;[[Energon (toyline)|Energon]]&#039;&#039; [[Overcast (Energon)|Overcast]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Skyfire and Roadbuster&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;SS-02&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Spring-loaded missile launcher and 2 missiles&lt;br /&gt;
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:This was a Japan-only two-pack of both Jetfire and Ironhide. There are no differences between the toys in this pack and the individually packed Japanese versions.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Skyfire Sonic&#039;&#039;&#039; (Mega, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;SC-25&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Spring-loaded missile launcher, 1 missile, Energon Spear weapon&lt;br /&gt;
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:This was the Japanese release of [[Overcast (Energon)|&#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; Overcast]], though still portrayed as the same character of Skyfire. There are some differences in paint application, but the major difference is the inclusion of an orange Energon Spear, originally belonging to [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cybertron===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Ultra class, 2005)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;GC-04&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories&#039;&#039;: Left &amp;amp; right spring-loaded missile launchers, 2 missiles, Earth-planet Cyber Key or Autobot Cybertron-planet Cyber Key (see below)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Cyb Jetfire toy.jpg|right|175px|thumb|&amp;quot;Now listen mate, I need to splash the boots. You know, strain the potatoes. Water the horses. You know, go where the big knobs hang out...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Jetfire was once again Ultra-sized, but this time transformed into a green cargo plane resembling a modified [[wikipedia:Antonov_An-225|Antonov An-225]]. The design of the vehicle mode features a small homage to Jetfire&#039;s previous shuttle forms via a (non-opening) hatch featuring &#039;teeth&#039; on the dorsal section. Jetfire features sound effects by pressing the port side aft engine nacelle. Inserting his Cyber Planet Key into his tail assembly in either vehicle or robot mode causes a pair of translucent red cannons to extend, and the compartment they are mounted on to raise. Pressing the port side aft engine now features a different sound effect. The tail section can be swiveled up to form an attack mode somewhat resembling the &amp;quot;gerwalk&amp;quot; form of a &#039;&#039;Macross&#039;&#039; Valkyrie (appropriately).&lt;br /&gt;
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:In robot mode Jetfire has a tendency to topple back due to the heavy battery operated gimmicks of the tail section, though he is more stable if one puts him in an action-oriented pose. In this mode he features two pop-out (non-firing) missile pods in his waist and wields his two wing-mounted (spring-loaded) missile launchers.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The US version of this toy has a bar between the barrels of the translucent red tail cannons to provide structural integrity at the cost of aesthetics. The other cosmetic difference between the US and Japanese versions is that the &#039;&#039;Galaxy Force&#039;&#039; release has more paint applications. Finally, the &#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039; release comes with a silver-bordered Earth planet Cyber Key with [[Cyber Key Codes|key code]] &#039;&#039;&#039;uk97&#039;&#039;&#039; printed on the back, while the &#039;&#039;Galaxy Force&#039;&#039; version comes with a silver-bordered Cybertron planet Autobot key.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This mold was [[Redeco|redecoed]] to make [[Movie (toyline)|Movie]] [[Jetstorm (Movie)|Jetstorm]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Legends of Cybertron, 2005)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LOC Jetfire.jpg|right|175px|thumb|&amp;quot;...Shake hands with the wife&#039;s best friend? Drain the dragon? Siphon the python? Ring the rattlesnake? You know, unbutton the mutton? Like, point Percy at the porcelain?&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
:This is a much smaller version of the Ultra-sized toy, with limited articulation and detail. In the U.S. market, LOC Jetfire was primarily sold in drug stores, though he could be found in normal retailers in markets outside of the US, such as Australia.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This mold was redecoed to make &#039;&#039;[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]&#039;&#039; [[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] and &#039;&#039;[[Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]&#039;&#039; [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Burger King Kids&#039; Meal toy, 2005)&lt;br /&gt;
:An incredibly simplified version of Cybertron Jetfire. This toy is a partsformer, requiring you to remove his tail section to transform him and to replace it on his back. Oh yeah, he don&#039;t stand too good neither. Sucker.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sky Shadow&#039;&#039;&#039; (Ultra class, 2006)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories&#039;&#039;: Left &amp;amp; right spring-loaded missile launchers, 2 missiles, Earth-planet Cyber Key&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Cyb Sky Shadow toy.jpg|right|180px|thumb|&amp;quot;He&#039;s a handsome wild colonial man He can beat the bloody world if Genghis Khan&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
:This was a tan/gold and black redeco of Cybertron Jetfire, posing as a Decepticon. It uses the same tooling as Cybertron Jetfire (though the chest panel is retooled to remove the Autobot sigil), so features the structurally stronger tail cannon. All other functions remain the same. This toy represents Jetfire in his [[wikipedia:Matches_Malone|cover identity]] as a Decepticon.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Sky Shadow comes with a silver-bordered Earth planet Cyber Key with the code &#039;&#039;&#039;u06h&#039;&#039;&#039; printed on the back.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Merchandise===&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* The Armada Jetfire toy&#039;s appearance and transformation sequence is an homage to &#039;&#039;Generation 1&#039;&#039; [[Galaxy Shuttle]]. This was confirmed by then-head designer [[Aaron Archer]] during his stint as &#039;ORSON&#039; on the [http://www.tfw2005.com TFW2005.com] boards.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Much like the [[Red Alert (Armada)|&#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; Red Alert]] toy&#039;s &#039;Woo-woo-woo&#039; sound effect, the &#039;&#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; Jetfire toy&#039;s original countdown sound effect briefly became something of an in-joke within the Transformers fan community. &lt;br /&gt;
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* Jetfire&#039;s &#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039; toy appears (in plane mode) on the screen of the Hasbro version of the [[Real Gear Robots]] toy [[Power Up VT6]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* His voice in the &#039;&#039;Super Link&#039;&#039; cartoon is &#039;&#039;incredibly&#039;&#039; shrill, shrieky and annoying.&lt;br /&gt;
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* He&#039;s fair dinkum mate!&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Autobot/Jetfire/jetfire.htm Jetfire at TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Dimension hoppers]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Much awesomer picture! - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:08, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Great, now I have to go to my BK and see if they&#039;re doing these (I was in last week, and the I think the UK might have a different ROTF promotion...) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:13, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Too bad we can&#039;t use the image from the BK website. It&#039;s a sight to behold. Well, guess I won&#039;t be taking my digital camera with me to work.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d still hit it&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Jetfire (Movie)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Comparing the comic character to the legends toy, it&#039;s clearly him so how about adding some info/scans from the comics?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Picture? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a picture of movie Jetfire from a recent Bay-released clip.  Should I upload it or hold off on it?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[Special:Contributions/75.181.157.99|75.181.157.99]] 10:49, 18 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I&#039;d also like to know if we can go ahead. TFW2005 [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/two-and-a-half-minutes-of-revenge-of-the-fallen-online-167352/ has some images]. I&#039;m not advocating a whole upload, just a few face shots. Anyone? Walky? Sipher? Buller? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 13:55, 18 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I can&#039;t imagine there would be a problem with this.  It was an official info release from Michael Bay.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 14:01, 18 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== NOBODY MOVE pic ==&lt;br /&gt;
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a reference to Pirates of the Carribean, right? luv that movie {{unsigned|71.158.184.230|20:09, 16 May 2009}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Legends Cane ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just got Legends Jetfire and the cane can totally touch the ground, you just have to position his legs like he is hunched over, which I assume was the intent.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;ll change it. Some anon editor wrote it (barely in english). Since I don&#039;t have the toy, I merely cleaned it up. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:34, 8 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Accent==&lt;br /&gt;
I totally heard it as Australian. Anyone else want to weigh in? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 05:28, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I&#039;m not good with Accents, but he did sound something like that. Amusingly, in the Cybertron line, Jetfire also had an Australian accent, worth to note?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 05:35, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I thought it was a light Scottish! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:56, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I just heard English. I&#039;m assuming Mark Ryan wasn&#039;t affecting an accent - he &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; English, and when he&#039;s done real voice-work for Bumblebee (that one line in the first movie, &#039;&#039;Beginnings&#039;&#039;), he&#039;s just done an English accent too. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 06:20, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve heard someone mentioned Cockney at the IDW boards or the Allspark. That, and it was either Nick Roche or Liam Shalloo complaining about the accent in their posts about the film at both respective board&#039;s ROTF discussion thread (Nick would know). I know it&#039;s a type of English accent, but I&#039;m not trusting myself to pin it down on which one, considering Jetfire uses &amp;quot;Bollocks.&amp;quot; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 07:05, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Can&#039;t we state it&#039;s a generic British accent? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 07:26, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If that&#039;s supposed to be Australian then I am clearly speaking in the wrong accent. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:36, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Drivaar (Kris Carter) is the one I&#039;m thinking of as the one who mentioned Cockney, as in &amp;quot;Cockney insanity of Jetfire&amp;quot; in [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=139134#139134 his post] at IDW. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 09:37, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Sounds Yorkshire to me. Definitely up north (which is, ironically, south of me). His voice actor&#039;s from there, at any rate. [[Special:Contributions/82.41.72.10|82.41.72.10]] 14:17, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Admittedly I&#039;ve only heard him via YouTube, but as a Northern Englishman who used to live in Scotland, it really, really sounds Scottish to me. It&#039;s a different accent to Mark Ryan&#039;s, for sure, but it&#039;s definitely a pretty specific accent, and certainly can&#039;t be called &amp;quot;generic&amp;quot;. - [[User:Muddtallica|Muddtallica]] 15:49, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Speaking purely as an &amp;quot;ignorant American&amp;quot; who happens to like listening to foreign accents, Jetfire sounded to me like a reasonable attempt at a grizzled Scottish highlander—still a far cry from William Wallace (whom I believe most Americans know from his portrayal by a transplanted Australian anyway), but resonating enough with that type of character to be passable.  Even if he doesn&#039;t sound properly Scottish, he certainly didn&#039;t sound Cockney to me.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 19:50, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think Drivaar meant &amp;quot;Cockney&amp;quot; as more in attitude than in accent. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 20:35, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Could be, but Jetfire still didn&#039;t strike me as such.  Then again, I may not be in a position to judge what is a genuine &amp;quot;Cockney attitude&amp;quot;.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 21:30, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wasn&#039;t there a huge big accent/race debate on here a while back?  Somebody had a linguistics friend too, IIRC [[User:Drmick|Drmick]] 13:45, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I just remembered that it was Pacifist Prime vs everyone else.  I somewhat optimistically tried Google cache there, but no joy. [[User:Drmick|Drmick]] 06:48, 4 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alt mode==&lt;br /&gt;
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When exactly did Jetfire obtain his alternate mode? We don&#039;t really know when he became &amp;quot;dormant&amp;quot;.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Jetfire (Movie)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{factions|decepticon|autobot}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{disambig3|Jetfire}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Jetfire is a [[Decepticon]] and [[Autobot]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTF_Jetfire.jpg|thumb|350px|Get off my lawn, you young whippersnappers!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In his day, &#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; was a living legend. Sadly, his day has long since past. His body went south years back. His bunny is dead on the wheel. He&#039;s got rust in places he didn&#039;t even know he had. Basically, Jetfire&#039;s old! An ancient Decepticon [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]], Jetfire was around long before the war broke out, and unlike many, came to see his &amp;quot;comrades&amp;quot; for what they were. This caused him to defect to the Autobots, something virtually unheard of. He&#039;s a fine asset, powerful and possessing the ability to teleport across great distances. This is slightly offset by the fact he&#039;s so old, his processor gave up the ghost millennia ago. These days he has a hard enough time remembering his name. It makes him a bit crotchety and also leaves him with the nagging feeling he&#039;s forgotten something important.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|My father, why, he was a wheel! The &#039;&#039;first&#039;&#039; wheel! And do you know what he transformed into? &#039;&#039;Nothing!&#039;&#039; But he did so &#039;&#039;with honor! Dignity, damn it!&#039;&#039;|Jetfire suffers the seven signs of aging|[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===IDW &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movie comics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Defiance4_Jetfire.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Hopefully I won&#039;t end up on some [[earth|godforsaken planet]] and be infested with [[Maximal|disgusting little critters.]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the distant past, the [[All Spark (Movie)|All Spark]] Cube created [[Thirteen original Transformers|a race]] of powerful, trans-dimensional beings as the first inhabitants of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. The Cube gave these beings mighty powers, as well as terraforming their world, but it was not limitless, and gradually became depleted. The first beings learned that the All Spark&#039;s power could be replenished by harvesting the energy of stars, but they were unable to locate new stars to suit their purposes, despite their amazing ability to travel between dimensions. Once again, the Cube came to the rescue, creating a race of workers, who had the ability to change their shape.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jetfire was among the very first of these new beings, a &amp;quot;[[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]]&amp;quot; with the ability to travel across the vastness of space in search of new suns. Once located, he would lead others and his masters back to it so a [[Solar harvester|harvester]] could be constructed to drain the energy of these stars, thus replenishing the All Spark. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 4|Defiance #4}} It is assumed that at some point during the civil war on Cybertron, he sided with [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], the new protege of Jetfire&#039;s only surviving ancient master, [[The Fallen]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; film===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Mark Ryan]] (English), [[Hisao Egawa]] (Japanese), [[Engelbert von Nordhausen]] (German)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{spoiler|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|7/24/09}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|Events that are only in the [[Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|novel adaptation]] are in italics.}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROFT Jetfire Bay clip.jpg|thumb|250px|Rust in my aft you say!?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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For many years, a dormant Jetfire had hidden in his alternate mode at the [[wikipedia:Smithsonian Institution|Smithsonian]] [[wikipedia:National Air and Space Museum|National Air and Space Museum]]&#039;s [[wikipedia:Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center|Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center]], until [[Seymour Simmons]], [[Sam Witwicky]], [[Mikaela Banes]], [[Leo Spitz]] and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] broke in with a small fragment of the [[All Spark]]. The surge of energy awoke him, and the cantankerous old robot wandered outside, pausing only to bang his head on the door. Confused and disoriented, only the efforts of the [[human]]s and an [[Wheelie (ROTF)|ex-Decepticon]] brought his senses back. Jetfire revealed that during the war he had joined the Autobots and upon hearing the name of the Fallen, he teleported the entire group (including [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], [[Skids (ROTF)|the]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|twins]], and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]]) to [[Egypt]]. &#039;&#039;He was followed by [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]] who immediately attacked, calling Jetfire a traitor. Ransack&#039;s weapons, however, were ineffective, and Jetfire ended the fight by stomping Ransack dead.&#039;&#039; Jetfire then told them the story of the [[Dynasty of Primes]] and The Fallen, Cybertron&#039;s first contact with Earth and the [[solar harvester]], a life-giving device that could destroy the [[Sun]]. He revealed that only a Prime could kill The Fallen, and was distraught to hear of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime&#039;s]] death. After Sam hit upon the idea of using the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to revive Optimus, Jetfire gave him the only clue to find the [[Tomb of the Primes]].&lt;br /&gt;
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During the final battle around the [[Pyramid|Great Pyramid of Giza]] (which contained the Solar Harvester), Jetfire arrived and attempted to &amp;quot;stick&amp;quot; the landing, which didn&#039;t go quite as he planned. He immediately decided to &amp;quot;show how they brought the pain in my day&amp;quot;, slicing [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] in half, and crushing his upper torso. He was critically wounded by a surprise attack from [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] and although he managed to kill the Decepticon, the injury was fatal. Fortunately, Jetfire was treated to one last wonder, as Sam Witwicky used the Matrix to resurrect Optimus, and Jetfire could hardly believe that he was seeing a living [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]. Unfortunately, The Fallen teleported in and attacked, stealing the Matrix and placing it in the harvester. As he lay dying, Jetfire, who felt that during his entire life he&#039;d never done a thing worth doing, told the resurrected Optimus Prime to take his parts and &amp;quot;discover a power like you&#039;ve never known&amp;quot;.  Telling Optimus to fulfill his destiny, Jetfire ripped out his spark core and died. With help from [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and [[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]], Jetfire&#039;s remains were fused with Optimus, who became more powerful than ever. &lt;br /&gt;
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Now equipped with Jetfire&#039;s powerful weapons engines, Optimus broke through a blockade of debris The Fallen had telekinetically erected around the Pyramid and destroyed the Solar Harvester before it could be used against the Earth&#039;s Sun. After Optimus defeated Megatron and destroyed The Fallen, he quickly detached Jetfire&#039;s parts. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Revenge of the Fallen===&lt;br /&gt;
====Legends Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF Jetfire 2009 Legends.JPG|right|300px|thumb|It&#039;s not the years, honey, it&#039;s the mileage.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Legends, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;EZ-05&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF Legends Prime Jetfire combo.jpg|thumb|left|Don&#039;t I look glorious as a corpse backpack?]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Legends class &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; Jetfire transforms from a tiny [[Wikipedia: SR-71 Blackbird|SR-71 Blackbird]] spy plane to a sort of hunchback robot. In a bit of character design accuracy, his left arm has a cane.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The upper fuselage of the plane mode has a thin rectangular peg to slot into the back of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Revenge of The Fallen|Legends class Optimus Prime]] to recreate the powered up mode at the end of the movie. There are no instructions on the packaging making mention of this, but they&#039;re hardly needed, as it&#039;s as simple as plugging him on and folding his wings backwards.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Leader Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jetfire ROTF leader toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|&amp;quot;You know, I&#039;ve personally flown over 194 missions, and I was shot down in every one.  Come to think of it, I&#039;ve never landed a plane in my life.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Leader, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;RA-13&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Front landing gear/walking stick, rotary cannon missile launcher, projectile&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jetfire features electronic lights and sounds. And by sounds, we mean he talks like a Yorkshireman. Seriously.  &lt;br /&gt;
:As seen in the movie, he can combine with [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Revenge of The Fallen|Leader Class Optimus Prime]] to form Prime&#039;s powered-up mode, albeit at the cost of Optimus Prime&#039;s leg articulation. An [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-feedback/234956-rotf-leader-jetfire-pictorial-review-23.html#post3834101 alternate foot/leg configuration] can be used with not only looks more accurate, but allows decent leg articulation.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Despite the back of the package showing two lights within Jetfire&#039;s torso, he only has one light, on his left side, while the other slot that would normally house the light is filled in with a separate plastic piece.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fast Action Battlers====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jetfire ROTF FAB toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|NOBODY MOVE...I dropped me cane...]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Photon Missile Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Fast Action Battler, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Photon Missile&amp;quot; projectile&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[Fast Action Battler]] Jetfire is a simplified, roughly Deluxe-sized toy of Jetfire. In vehicle mode, he transforms into a sort of cute, super-deformed SR-71 Blackbird jet. As with most &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; toy jets, he has a fair bit of undercarriage junk from his robot mode, though not to the extent of the Leader class toy. In robot mode he has a reasonably accurate depiction of Jetfire&#039;s design, though his right arm ends in a spring-loaded projectile launcher shaped like a rotary cannon.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Robot Replicas====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Robot Replica, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Cane&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[Robot Replicas]] Jetfire is a non-transformable, accurate representation of his CGI model from the film. He is highly posable, and not much else.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Merchandise==&lt;br /&gt;
===Robot Heroes===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Robotheroesmegatronfallenprimejetfireironhide.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Kinda morbid, really.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Battle for the Fallen&#039;&#039;&#039; (box set, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
:This &#039;&#039;Robot Heroes&#039;&#039; box set of figures comes with [[The Fallen]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] (tank mode), [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and Jetfire combined, and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] (truck mode).  &lt;br /&gt;
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{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* Jetfire&#039;s ancient Cybertronian vehicle mode as seen in [[IDW Publishing]]&#039;s [[Defiance issue 4|&#039;&#039;Defiance&#039;&#039; #4]] bears more than a passing similarity with the starship &#039;&#039;[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]&#039;&#039; from &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Jetfire is one of the few movie Transformers to mention having [[Relatives|a family]]; in fact, he claims his father was &#039;&#039;the&#039;&#039; wheel.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In the film, Jetfire seemed to say that the reason he was extremely &amp;quot;elderly&amp;quot; was that he has gone for too long without an adequate supply of energon. Well, the fact that he was one of the first Transformers ever to live probably contributes a little; but at least the low energon explains why he is &#039;slowly falling apart and dying&#039; as opposed to other &#039;old&#039; bots like [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* According to him (and demonstrated as well), he can access a [[Space Bridge]] to transport himself and others across vast distances in mere moments. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*While the Leader Class toy is advertised as being able to combine with [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] they do not combine in the movie itself, per se. Jetfire merely kills himself so that Optimus Prime can &#039;&#039;wear&#039;&#039; the parts of his corpse as extra armor and weaponry. That&#039;s right, he&#039;s [[kibble]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*The presence of other Seekers scattered across the world is confirmed by Wheelie, however outside of Ransack&#039;s appearance in the novel adaptation, Jetfire is the only one to play any role. You&#039;d think a bunch of ancient Transformers scattered across the United States would be a concern.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Autobots]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Elderly Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Seekers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Turncoats]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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{{disambig3|Jetfire}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Jetfire is a [[Decepticon]] and [[Autobot]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTF_Jetfire.jpg|thumb|350px|Get off my lawn, you young whippersnappers!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In his day, &#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; was a living legend. Sadly, his day has long since past. His body went south years back. His bunny is dead on the wheel. He&#039;s got rust in places he didn&#039;t even know he had. Basically, Jetfire&#039;s old! An ancient Decepticon [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]], Jetfire was around long before the war broke out, and unlike many, came to see his &amp;quot;comrades&amp;quot; for what they were. This caused him to defect to the Autobots, something virtually unheard of. He&#039;s a fine asset, powerful and possessing the ability to teleport across great distances. This is slightly offset by the fact he&#039;s so old, his processor gave up the ghost millennia ago. These days he has a hard enough time remembering his name. It makes him a bit crotchety and also leaves him with the nagging feeling he&#039;s forgotten something important.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|My father, why, he was a wheel! The &#039;&#039;first&#039;&#039; wheel! And do you know what he transformed into? &#039;&#039;Nothing!&#039;&#039; But he did so &#039;&#039;with honor! Dignity, damn it!&#039;&#039;|Jetfire suffers the seven signs of aging|[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===IDW &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movie comics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Defiance4_Jetfire.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Hopefully I won&#039;t end up on some [[earth|godforsaken planet]] and be infested with [[Maximal|disgusting little critters.]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the distant past, the [[All Spark (Movie)|All Spark]] Cube created [[Thirteen original Transformers|a race]] of powerful, trans-dimensional beings as the first inhabitants of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. The Cube gave these beings mighty powers, as well as terraforming their world, but it was not limitless, and gradually became depleted. The first beings learned that the All Spark&#039;s power could be replenished by harvesting the energy of stars, but they were unable to locate new stars to suit their purposes, despite their amazing ability to travel between dimensions. Once again, the Cube came to the rescue, creating a race of workers, who had the ability to change their shape.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jetfire was among the very first of these new beings, a &amp;quot;[[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]]&amp;quot; with the ability to travel across the vastness of space in search of new suns. Once located, he would lead others and his masters back to it so a [[Solar harvester|harvester]] could be constructed to drain the energy of these stars, thus replenishing the All Spark. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 4|Defiance #4}} It is assumed that at some point during the civil war on Cybertron, he sided with [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], the new protege of Jetfire&#039;s only surviving ancient master, [[The Fallen]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; film===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Mark Ryan]] (English), [[Hisao Egawa]] (Japanese), [[Engelbert von Nordhausen]] (German)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{spoiler|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|7/24/09}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|Events that are only in the [[Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|novel adaptation]] are in italics.}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROFT Jetfire Bay clip.jpg|thumb|250px|Rust in my aft you say!?]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For many years, a dormant Jetfire had hidden in his alternate mode at the [[wikipedia:Smithsonian Institution|Smithsonian]] [[wikipedia:National Air and Space Museum|National Air and Space Museum]]&#039;s [[wikipedia:Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center|Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center]], until [[Seymour Simmons]], [[Sam Witwicky]], [[Mikaela Banes]], [[Leo Spitz]] and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] broke in with a small fragment of the [[All Spark]]. The surge of energy awoke him, and the cantankerous old robot wandered outside, pausing only to bang his head on the door. Confused and disoriented, only the efforts of the [[human]]s and an [[Wheelie (ROTF)|ex-Decepticon]] brought his senses back. Jetfire revealed that during the war he had joined the Autobots and upon hearing the name of the Fallen, he teleported the entire group (including [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], [[Skids (ROTF)|the]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|twins]], and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]]) to [[Egypt]]. &#039;&#039;He was followed by [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]] who immediately attacked, calling Jetfire a traitor. Ransack&#039;s weapons, however, were ineffective, and Jetfire ended the fight by stomping Ransack dead.&#039;&#039; Jetfire then told them the story of the [[Dynasty of Primes]] and The Fallen, Cybertron&#039;s first contact with Earth and the [[solar harvester]], a life-giving device that could destroy the [[Sun]]. He revealed that only a Prime could kill The Fallen, and was distraught to hear of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime&#039;s]] death. After Sam hit upon the idea of using the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to revive Optimus, Jetfire gave him the only clue to find the [[Tomb of the Primes]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During the final battle around the [[Pyramid|Great Pyramid of Giza]] (which contained the Solar Harvester), Jetfire arrived and attempted to &amp;quot;stick&amp;quot; the landing, which didn&#039;t go quite as he planned. He immediately decided to &amp;quot;show how they brought the pain in my day&amp;quot;, slicing [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] in half, and crushing his upper torso. He was critically wounded by a surprise attack from [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] and although he managed to kill the Decepticon, the injury was fatal. Fortunately, Jetfire was treated to one last wonder, as Sam Witwicky used the Matrix to resurrect Optimus, and Jetfire could hardly believe that he was seeing a living [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]. Unfortunately, The Fallen teleported in and attacked, stealing the Matrix and placing it in the harvester. As he lay dying, Jetfire, who felt that during his entire life he&#039;d never done a thing worth doing, told the resurrected Optimus Prime to take his parts and &amp;quot;discover a power like you&#039;ve never known&amp;quot;.  Telling Optimus to fulfill his destiny, Jetfire ripped out his spark core and died. With help from [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and [[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]], Jetfire&#039;s remains were fused with Optimus, who became more powerful than ever. &lt;br /&gt;
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Now equipped with Jetfire&#039;s powerful weapons engines, Optimus broke through a blockade of debris The Fallen had telekinetically erected around the Pyramid and destroyed the Solar Harvester before it could be used against the Earth&#039;s Sun. After Optimus defeated Megatron and destroyed The Fallen, he quickly detached Jetfire&#039;s parts. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Revenge of the Fallen===&lt;br /&gt;
====Legends Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF Jetfire 2009 Legends.JPG|right|300px|thumb|It&#039;s not the years, honey, it&#039;s the mileage.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Legends, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;EZ-05&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF Legends Prime Jetfire combo.jpg|thumb|left|Don&#039;t I look glorious as a corpse backpack?]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Legends class &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; Jetfire transforms from a tiny [[Wikipedia: SR-71 Blackbird|SR-71 Blackbird]] spy plane to a sort of hunchback robot. In a bit of character design accuracy, his left arm has a cane.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The upper fuselage of the plane mode has a thin rectangular peg to slot into the back of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Revenge of The Fallen|Legends class Optimus Prime]] to recreate the powered up mode at the end of the movie. There are no instructions on the packaging making mention of this, but they&#039;re hardly needed, as it&#039;s as simple as plugging him on and folding his wings backwards.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
====Leader Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jetfire ROTF leader toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|&amp;quot;You know, I&#039;ve personally flown over 194 missions, and I was shot down in every one.  Come to think of it, I&#039;ve never landed a plane in my life.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Leader, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;RA-13&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Front landing gear/walking stick, rotary cannon missile launcher, projectile&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Jetfire features electronic lights and sounds. And by sounds, we mean he talks like a Yorkshireman. Seriously.  &lt;br /&gt;
:As seen in the movie, he can combine with [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Revenge of The Fallen|Leader Class Optimus Prime]] to form Prime&#039;s powered-up mode, albeit at the cost of Optimus Prime&#039;s leg articulation. An [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-feedback/234956-rotf-leader-jetfire-pictorial-review-23.html#post3834101 alternate foot/leg configuration] can be used with not only looks more accurate, but allows decent leg articulation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Despite the back of the package showing two lights within Jetfire&#039;s torso, he only has one light, on his left side, while the other slot that would normally house the light is filled in with a separate plastic piece.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fast Action Battlers====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jetfire ROTF FAB toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|NOBODY MOVE...I dropped me cane...]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Photon Missile Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Fast Action Battler, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Photon Missile&amp;quot; projectile&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: [[Fast Action Battler]] Jetfire is a simplified, roughly Deluxe-sized toy of Jetfire. In vehicle mode, he transforms into a sort of cute, super-deformed SR-71 Blackbird jet. As with most &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; toy jets, he has a fair bit of undercarriage junk from his robot mode, though not to the extent of the Leader class toy. In robot mode he has a reasonably accurate depiction of Jetfire&#039;s design, though his right arm ends in a spring-loaded projectile launcher shaped like a rotary cannon.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Robot Replicas====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Robot Replica, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Cane&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: [[Robot Replicas]] Jetfire is a non-transformable, accurate representation of his CGI model from the film. He is highly posable, and not much else.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Merchandise==&lt;br /&gt;
===Robot Heroes===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Robotheroesmegatronfallenprimejetfireironhide.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Kinda morbid, really.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Battle for the Fallen&#039;&#039;&#039; (box set, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
:This &#039;&#039;Robot Heroes&#039;&#039; box set of figures comes with [[The Fallen]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] (tank mode), [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and Jetfire combined, and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] (truck mode).  &lt;br /&gt;
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{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{--}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* Jetfire&#039;s ancient Cybertronian vehicle mode as seen in [[IDW Publishing]]&#039;s [[Defiance issue 4|&#039;&#039;Defiance&#039;&#039; #4]] bears more than a passing similarity with the starship &#039;&#039;[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]&#039;&#039; from &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
:* On the question of alternate modes, how and when exactly would&#039;ve he scanned his earth alternate mode if he been dormant since (presumably) prehistoric times?&lt;br /&gt;
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* Jetfire is one of the few movie Transformers to mention having [[Relatives|a family]]; in fact, he claims his father was &#039;&#039;the&#039;&#039; wheel.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In the film, Jetfire seemed to say that the reason he was extremely &amp;quot;elderly&amp;quot; was that he has gone for too long without an adequate supply of energon. Well, the fact that he was one of the first Transformers ever to live probably contributes a little; but at least the low energon explains why he is &#039;slowly falling apart and dying&#039; as opposed to other &#039;old&#039; bots like [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* According to him (and demonstrated as well), he can access a [[Space Bridge]] to transport himself and others across vast distances in mere moments. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*While the Leader Class toy is advertised as being able to combine with [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] they do not combine in the movie itself, per se. Jetfire merely kills himself so that Optimus Prime can &#039;&#039;wear&#039;&#039; the parts of his corpse as extra armor and weaponry. That&#039;s right, he&#039;s [[kibble]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*The presence of other Seekers scattered across the world is confirmed by Wheelie, however outside of Ransack&#039;s appearance in the novel adaptation, Jetfire is the only one to play any role. You&#039;d think a bunch of ancient Transformers scattered across the United States would be a concern.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Elderly Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Seekers]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{disambig3|Jetfire}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Jetfire is a [[Decepticon]] and [[Autobot]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTF_Jetfire.jpg|thumb|350px|Get off my lawn, you young whippersnappers!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In his day, &#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; was a living legend. Sadly, his day has long since past. His body went south years back. His bunny is dead on the wheel. He&#039;s got rust in places he didn&#039;t even know he had. Basically, Jetfire&#039;s old! An ancient Decepticon [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]], Jetfire was around long before the war broke out, and unlike many, came to see his &amp;quot;comrades&amp;quot; for what they were. This caused him to defect to the Autobots, something virtually unheard of. He&#039;s a fine asset, powerful and possessing the ability to teleport across great distances. This is slightly offset by the fact he&#039;s so old, his processor gave up the ghost millennia ago. These days he has a hard enough time remembering his name. It makes him a bit crotchety and also leaves him with the nagging feeling he&#039;s forgotten something important.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|My father, why, he was a wheel! The &#039;&#039;first&#039;&#039; wheel! And do you know what he transformed into? &#039;&#039;Nothing!&#039;&#039; But he did so &#039;&#039;with honour! Dignity, damn it!&#039;&#039;|Jetfire suffers the seven signs of aging|[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===IDW &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movie comics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Defiance4_Jetfire.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Hopefully I won&#039;t end up on some [[earth|godforsaken planet]] and be infested with [[Maximal|disgusting little critters.]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the distant past, the [[All Spark (Movie)|All Spark]] Cube created [[Thirteen original Transformers|a race]] of powerful, trans-dimensional beings as the first inhabitants of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. The Cube gave these beings mighty powers, as well as terraforming their world, but it was not limitless, and gradually became depleted. The first beings learned that the All Spark&#039;s power could be replenished by harvesting the energy of stars, but they were unable to locate new stars to suit their purposes, despite their amazing ability to travel between dimensions. Once again, the Cube came to the rescue, creating a race of workers, who had the ability to change their shape.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jetfire was among the very first of these new beings, a &amp;quot;[[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]]&amp;quot; with the ability to travel across the vastness of space in search of new suns. Once located, he would lead others and his masters back to it so a [[Solar harvester|harvester]] could be constructed to drain the energy of these stars, thus replenishing the All Spark. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 4}} It is assumed that at some point during the civil war on Cybertron, he sided with [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], the new protege of Jetfire&#039;s only surviving ancient master, [[The Fallen]].&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; movie===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Mark Ryan]] (English), [[Hisao Egawa]] (Japanese), [[Engelbert von Nordhausen]] (German)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{spoiler|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|7/24/09}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROFT Jetfire Bay clip.jpg|thumb|250px|Rust in my aft you say!?]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For many years, a dormant Jetfire had hidden in his alternate mode at the [[wikipedia:Smithsonian Institution|Smithsonian]] [[wikipedia:National Air and Space Museum|National Air and Space Museum]]&#039;s [[wikipedia:Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center|Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center]] , until [[Seymour Simmons]], [[Sam Witwicky]], [[Mikaela Banes]], [[Leo Spitz]] and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] broke in with a small fragment of the [[All Spark]]. The surge of energy awoke him, and the cantankerous old robot wandered outside, pausing only to bang his head on the door. Confused and disoriented, only the efforts of the [[human]]s and ex-Decepticon brought his senses back. Jetfire revealed that during the war he had joined the Autobots and upon hearing the name of the Fallen, he teleported the entire group (including [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], [[Skids (ROTF)|the]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|twins]], and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]]) to [[Egypt]], where he told them the story of the [[Dynasty of Primes]] and The Fallen, Cybertron&#039;s first contact with Earth and the [[Solar harvester|Solar Harvester]], a life-giving device that could destroy the [[Sun]]. He revealed that only a Prime could kill The Fallen, and was distraught to hear of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime&#039;s]] death. After Sam hit upon the idea of using the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to revive Optimus, Jetfire gave him the only clue to find the [[Tomb of the Primes]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
During the final battle around the [[Pyramid|Great Pyramid of Giza]] (which contained the Solar Harvester), Jetfire arrived and attempted to &amp;quot;stick&amp;quot; the landing, which didn&#039;t go quite as he planned. He immediately decided to &amp;quot;show how they brought the pain in my day&amp;quot;, slicing [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] in half, and crushing his upper torso. He was critically wounded by a surprise attack from [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] and although he managed to kill the Decepticon, the injury was fatal. As he lay dying, Jetfire, who felt that during his entire life he&#039;d never done a thing worth doing, he persuaded the resurrected Optimus Prime to take his parts and &amp;quot;discover a power like you&#039;ve never known&amp;quot;. Ripping out his own [[spark]] core, Jetfire died. With help from [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and [[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]], Jetfire&#039;s remains were fused with Optimus, who became more powerful than ever. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now equipped with Jetfire&#039;s powerful weapons engines, Optimus broke through a blockade of debris The Fallen had telekinetically erected around the Pyramid and destroyed the Solar Harvester before it could be used against the Earth&#039;s Sun. After Optimus defeated Megatron and destroyed The Fallen, he quickly detached Jetfire&#039;s parts. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Revenge of the Fallen===&lt;br /&gt;
====Legends Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF Jetfire 2009 Legends.JPG|right|300px|thumb|It&#039;s not the years, honey, it&#039;s the mileage.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Legends, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;EZ-05&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF Legends Prime Jetfire combo.jpg|thumb|left|Don&#039;t I look glorious as a corpse backpack?]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Legends class &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; Jetfire transforms from a tiny [[Wikipedia: SR-71 Blackbird|SR-71 Blackbird]] spy plane to a sort of hunchback robot. In a bit of character design accuracy, his left arm has a cane.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The upper fuselage of the plane mode has a thin rectangular peg to slot into the back of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Revenge of The Fallen|Legends class Optimus Prime]] to recreate the powered up mode at the end of the movie. There are no instructions on the packaging making mention of this, but they&#039;re hardly needed, as it&#039;s as simple as plugging him on and folding his wings backwards.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
====Leader Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jetfire ROTF leader toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|&amp;quot;You know, I&#039;ve personally flown over 194 missions, and I was shot down in every one.  Come to think of it, I&#039;ve never landed a plane in my life.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Leader, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;RA-13&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Front landing gear/walking stick, rotary cannon missile launcher, projectile&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Jetfire features electronic lights and sounds. And by sounds, we mean he talks like a Yorkshireman. Seriously.  &lt;br /&gt;
:As seen in the movie, he can combine with [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Revenge of The Fallen|Leader Class Optimus Prime]] to form Prime&#039;s powered-up mode, albeit at the cost of Optimus Prime&#039;s leg articulation. An [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-feedback/234956-rotf-leader-jetfire-pictorial-review-23.html#post3834101 alternate foot/leg configuration] can be used with not only looks more accurate, but allows decent leg articulation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Despite the back of the package showing two lights within Jetfire&#039;s torso, he only has one light, on his left side, while the other slot that would normally house the light is filled in with a separate plastic piece.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
====Fast Action Battlers====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jetfire ROTF FAB toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|NOBODY MOVE...I dropped me cane...]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Photon Missile Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Fast Action Battler, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Photon Missile&amp;quot; projectile&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: [[Fast Action Battler]] Jetfire is a simplified, roughly Deluxe-sized toy of Jetfire. In vehicle mode, he transforms into a sort of cute, super-deformed SR-71 Blackbird jet. As with most &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; toy jets, he has a fair bit of undercarriage junk from his robot mode, though not to the extent of the Leader class toy. In robot mode he has a reasonably accurate depiction of Jetfire&#039;s design, though his right arm ends in a spring-loaded projectile launcher shaped like a rotary cannon.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
====Robot Replicas====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Robot Replica, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Cane&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: [[Robot Replicas]] Jetfire is a non-transformable, accurate representation of his CGI model from the film. He is highly posable, and not much else.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Merchandise==&lt;br /&gt;
===Robot Heroes===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Robotheroesmegatronfallenprimejetfireironhide.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Kinda morbid, really.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Battle for the Fallen&#039;&#039;&#039; (box set, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
:This &#039;&#039;Robot Heroes&#039;&#039; box set of figures comes with [[The Fallen]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] (tank mode), [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and Jetfire combined, and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] (truck mode).  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* Jetfire&#039;s ancient Cybertronian vehicle mode as seen in [[IDW Publishing]]&#039;s &amp;quot;[[Defiance issue 4]]&amp;quot; bears more than a passing similarity with the starship &#039;&#039;[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]&#039;&#039; from &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Jetfire is one of the few movie Transformers to mention having [[Relatives|a family]]; in fact, he claims his father was &#039;&#039;the&#039;&#039; wheel.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In the film, Jetfire seemed to say that the reason he was extremely &amp;quot;elderly&amp;quot; was that he has gone for too long without an adequate supply of energon. Well, the fact that he was one of the first Transformers ever to live probably contributes a little; but at least the low energon explains why he is &#039;slowly falling apart and dying&#039; as opposed to other &#039;old&#039; bots like [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* According to him (and demonstrated as well), he can access a [[Space Bridge]] to transport himself and others across vast distances in mere moments. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*While the Leader Class toy is advertised as being able to combine with [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] they do not combine in the movie itself, per se. Jetfire merely kills himself so that Optimus Prime can &#039;&#039;wear&#039;&#039; the parts of his corpse as extra armor and weaponry. That&#039;s right, he&#039;s [[kibble]].&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Jetfire (Movie)</title>
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{{disambig3|Jetfire}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Jetfire is a [[Decepticon]] and [[Autobot]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTF_Jetfire.jpg|thumb|350px|Get off my lawn, you young whippersnappers!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In his day, &#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; was a living legend. Sadly, his day has long since past. His body went south years back. His bunny is dead on the wheel. He&#039;s got rust in places he didn&#039;t even know he had. Basically, Jetfire&#039;s old! An ancient Decepticon [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]], Jetfire was around long before the war broke out, and unlike many, came to see his &amp;quot;comrades&amp;quot; for what they were. This caused him to defect to the Autobots, something virtually unheard of. He&#039;s a fine asset, powerful and possessing the ability to teleport across great distances. This is slightly offset by the fact he&#039;s so old, his processor gave up the ghost millennia ago. These days he has a hard enough time remembering his name. It makes him a bit crotchety and also leaves him with the nagging feeling he&#039;s forgotten something important.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|My father, why, he was a wheel! The &#039;&#039;first&#039;&#039; wheel! And do you know what he transformed into? &#039;&#039;Nothing!&#039;&#039; But he did so &#039;&#039;with honour! Dignity, damn it!&#039;&#039;|Jetfire suffers the seven signs of aging|[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===IDW &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movie comics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Defiance4_Jetfire.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Hopefully I won&#039;t end up on some [[earth|godforsaken planet]] and be infested with [[Maximal|disgusting little critters.]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the distant past, the [[All Spark (Movie)|All Spark]] Cube created [[Thirteen original Transformers|a race]] of powerful, trans-dimensional beings as the first inhabitants of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. The Cube gave these beings mighty powers, as well as terraforming their world, but it was not limitless, and gradually became depleted. The first beings learned that the All Spark&#039;s power could be replenished by harvesting the energy of stars, but they were unable to locate new stars to suit their purposes, despite their amazing ability to travel between dimensions. Once again, the Cube came to the rescue, creating a race of workers, who had the ability to change their shape.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jetfire was among the very first of these new beings, a &amp;quot;[[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]]&amp;quot; with the ability to travel across the vastness of space in search of new suns. Once located, he would lead others and his masters back to it so a [[Solar harvester|harvester]] could be constructed to drain the energy of these stars, thus replenishing the All Spark. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 4}} It is assumed that at some point during the civil war on Cybertron, he sided with [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], the new protege of Jetfire&#039;s only surviving ancient master, [[The Fallen]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; movie===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Mark Ryan]] (English), [[Hisao Egawa]] (Japanese), [[Engelbert von Nordhausen]] (German)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{spoiler|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|7/24/09}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROFT Jetfire Bay clip.jpg|thumb|250px|Rust in my aft you say!?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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For many years, a dormant Jetfire had hidden in his alternate mode at the [[wikipedia:Smithsonian Institution|Smithsonian]] [[wikipedia:National Air and Space Museum|National Air and Space Museum]]&#039;s [[wikipedia:Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center|Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center]] , until [[Seymour Simmons]], [[Sam Witwicky]], [[Mikaela Banes]], [[Leo Spitz]] and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] broke in with a small fragment of the [[All Spark]]. The surge of energy awoke him, and the cantankerous old robot wandered outside, pausing only to bang his head on the door. Confused and disoriented, only the efforts of the [[human]]s and ex-Decepticon brought his senses back. Jetfire revealed that during the war he had joined the Autobots and upon hearing the name of the Fallen, he teleported the entire group (including [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], [[Skids (ROTF)|the]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|twins]], and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]]) to [[Egypt]], where he told them the story of the [[Dynasty of Primes]] and The Fallen, Cybertron&#039;s first contact with Earth and the [[Solar harvester|Solar Harvester]], a life-giving device that could destroy the [[Sun]]. He revealed that only a Prime could kill The Fallen, and was distraught to hear of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime&#039;s]] death. After Sam hit upon the idea of using the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to revive Optimus, Jetfire gave him the only clue to find the [[Tomb of the Primes]].&lt;br /&gt;
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During the final battle around the [[Pyramid|Great Pyramid of Giza]] (which contained the Solar Harvester), Jetfire arrived and attempted to &amp;quot;stick&amp;quot; the landing, which didn&#039;t go quite as he planned. He immediately decided to &amp;quot;show how they brought the pain in my day&amp;quot;, slicing [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] in half, and crushing his upper torso. He was critically wounded by a surprise attack from [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] and although he managed to kill the Decepticon, the injury was fatal. As he lay dying, Jetfire, who felt that during his entire life he&#039;d never done a thing worth doing, he persuaded the resurrected Optimus Prime to take his parts and &amp;quot;discover a power like you&#039;ve never known&amp;quot;. Ripping out his own [[spark]] core, Jetfire died. With help from [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and [[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]], Jetfire&#039;s remains were fused with Optimus, who became more powerful than ever. &lt;br /&gt;
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Now equipped with Jetfire&#039;s powerful weapons engines, Optimus broke through a blockade of debris The Fallen had telekinetically erected around the Pyramid and destroyed the Solar Harvester before it could be used against the Earth&#039;s Sun. After Optimus defeated Megatron and destroyed The Fallen, he quickly detached Jetfire&#039;s parts. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Revenge of the Fallen===&lt;br /&gt;
====Legends Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF Jetfire 2009 Legends.JPG|right|300px|thumb|It&#039;s not the years, honey, it&#039;s the mileage.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Legends, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;EZ-05&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF Legends Prime Jetfire combo.jpg|thumb|left|Don&#039;t I look glorious as a corpse backpack?]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Legends class &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; Jetfire transforms from a tiny [[Wikipedia: SR-71 Blackbird|SR-71 Blackbird]] spy plane to a sort of hunchback robot. In a bit of character design accuracy, his left arm has a cane.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The upper fuselage of the plane mode has a thin rectangular peg to slot into the back of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Revenge of The Fallen|Legends class Optimus Prime]] to recreate the powered up mode at the end of the movie. There are no instructions on the packaging making mention of this, but they&#039;re hardly needed, as it&#039;s as simple as plugging him on and folding his wings backwards.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Leader Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jetfire ROTF leader toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|&amp;quot;You know, I&#039;ve personally flown over 194 missions, and I was shot down in every one.  Come to think of it, I&#039;ve never landed a plane in my life.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Leader, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;RA-13&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Front landing gear/walking stick, rotary cannon missile launcher, projectile&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jetfire features electronic lights and sounds. And by sounds, we mean he talks like a Yorkshireman. Seriously.  &lt;br /&gt;
:As seen in the movie, he can combine with [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Revenge of The Fallen|Leader Class Optimus Prime]] to form Prime&#039;s powered-up mode, albeit at the cost of Optimus Prime&#039;s leg articulation. An [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-feedback/234956-rotf-leader-jetfire-pictorial-review-23.html#post3834101 alternate foot/leg configuration] can be used with not only looks more accurate, but allows decent leg articulation.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Despite the back of the package showing two lights within Jetfire&#039;s torso, he only has one light, on his left side, while the other slot that would normally house the light is filled in with a separate plastic piece.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fast Action Battlers====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Jetfire ROTF FAB toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|NOBODY MOVE...I dropped me cane...]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Photon Missile Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Fast Action Battler, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Photon Missile&amp;quot; projectile&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[Fast Action Battler]] Jetfire is a simplified, roughly Deluxe-sized toy of Jetfire. In vehicle mode, he transforms into a sort of cute, super-deformed SR-71 Blackbird jet. As with most &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; toy jets, he has a fair bit of undercarriage junk from his robot mode, though not to the extent of the Leader class toy. In robot mode he has a reasonably accurate depiction of Jetfire&#039;s design, though his right arm ends in a spring-loaded projectile launcher shaped like a rotary cannon.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Robot Replicas====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Jetfire&#039;&#039;&#039; (Robot Replica, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories:&#039;&#039; Cane&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[Robot Replicas]] Jetfire is a non-transformable, accurate representation of his CGI model from the film. He is highly posable, and not much else.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Merchandise==&lt;br /&gt;
===Robot Heroes===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Robotheroesmegatronfallenprimejetfireironhide.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Kinda morbid, really.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Battle for the Fallen&#039;&#039;&#039; (box set, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
:This &#039;&#039;Robot Heroes&#039;&#039; box set of figures comes with [[The Fallen]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] (tank mode), [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and Jetfire combined, and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] (truck mode).  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* Jetfire&#039;s ancient Cybertronian vehicle mode as seen in [[IDW Publishing]]&#039;s &amp;quot;[[Defiance issue 4]]&amp;quot; bears more than a passing similarity with the starship &#039;&#039;[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]&#039;&#039; from &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Jetfire is one of the few movie Transformers to mention having [[Relatives|a family]]; in fact, he claims his father was &#039;&#039;the&#039;&#039; wheel.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In the film, Jetfire seemed to say that the reason he was extremely &amp;quot;elderly&amp;quot; was that he has gone for too long without an adequate supply of energon. Well, the fact that he was one of the first Transformers ever to live probably contributes a little; but at least the low energon explains why he is &#039;slowly falling apart and dying&#039; as opposed to other &#039;old&#039; bots like [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* According to him (and demonstrated as well), he can access a [[Space Bridge]] to transport himself and others across vast distances in mere moments. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*While the Leader Class toy is advertised as being able to combine with [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] they do not combine in the movie itself, per se. Jetfire merely kills himself so that Optimus Prime can &#039;&#039;wear&#039;&#039; the parts of his corpse as extra armor and weaponry. That&#039;s right, he&#039;s [[kibble]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*What happened of his spark that he voluntarily ripped out?&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Elderly Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Seekers]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Optimus Prime (Movie)</title>
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{{disambig3|Optimus Prime}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime is the [[Autobot]] leader from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[Continuity family|continuity family]]. He has [[Transformers: Rise of the Chevy Autobots|sometimes]] used the codename &#039;&#039;&#039;10-22&#039;&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Movieprime meettheautobots.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Hello, pretty bird. GIVE ME YOUR FACE!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039; is the leader of the [[Autobot]]s. He was the humble leader of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]&#039;s sciences division, which protected the [[All Spark]] with [[Lord High Protector]] [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]&#039;s military. Optimus discovered that he was the last of the [[Dynasty of Primes]], hidden away when [[The Fallen]] destroyed their lineage. When The Fallen corrupted Megatron, Optimus assumed his proper [[Prime (rank)|title]] and formed the Autobots to stand against Megatron&#039;s [[Decepticon]]s.  &lt;br /&gt;
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As obsessively as Megatron strives to achieve his objective, Optimus is equally as dedicated to stopping him, even at the cost of his life, his world, and—if necessary—his own people. It was on his order that the [[All Spark]] was jettisoned into space, dooming Cybertron to a slow death and his people to nomadism. The sacrifices he has made weigh heavily on his [[Spark|spark]], but they must be done, for there is no other choice. He knows the ambitions that lurk in Megatron&#039;s spark, and they must never see the light of day. Lives must be kept free from the threat of Megatron&#039;s tyranny, no matter the cost.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{bigquote|A necessary sacrifice to bring peace to this planet. We cannot let the humans pay for our mistakes.|Optimus Prime on sacrificing his life to destroy the [[All Spark]], &#039;&#039;[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{bigquote|GIVE ME YOUR FACE!|Optimus Prime adds a [[The Fallen|new face]] to his collection, &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Hungarian name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimusz Fővezér&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Prime Leader Optimus&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Chinese name (Taiwan):&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Kē Bó Wén&#039;&#039;&#039; (柯博文)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Cantonese name (Hong Kong):&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;O Baak Man&#039;&#039;&#039; (柯柏文)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===IDW &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movie comics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Defiance1 Megs Prime argument.jpg|left|350px|thumb|&amp;quot;Hey, I wanted a mouthplate!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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For two generations, Optimus ruled [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] side-by-side with [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], and was in charge of the [[Science Division]] and the protectors of the [[All Spark]]. The two personalities created a balance; Prime was fair while Megatron was firm. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 1}} When Protector Megatron toured the excavation site near the temple at [[Simfur]], he and Optimus clashed over several issues. While Optimus wanted to take the investigation slowly, all Megatron cared about was whether the site contained power similar to the All Spark. Optimus nettled Megatron when he reminded the Protector that the science sector was in charge of scientific and archaeological discoveries, and that the defense forces had a tendency to treat such discoveries as hostile, to which Megatron responded that if and when he was leader, he could make such decisions. When a [[The Fallen|mysterious relic]] was uncovered, Optimus disagreed with Megatron&#039;s order for it to be removed from the ground. Just as the two were about to launch into yet another argument, aliens previously encountered by Commander [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] attacked Cybertron. Megatron blackmailed Optimus into moving the relic into his personal quarters by reminding the science leader that the science division would like to protect the only intact relic from harm. {{storylink|Defiance issue 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus ordered his science teams to help the survivors on both sides, in the hopes of finding out who was responsible and why they attacked. While he went off to find Megatron, he ordered the others to continue searching for survivors while [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] examined the alien remains. Optimus was shocked and appalled when Megatron ordered him to marshal his forces for war. Optimus objected, as his science division was not trained for combat, but Megatron retorted that the scientists should have known that aliens were after the All Spark. He endured Megatron&#039;s insane fury when he accused the Protector of betraying that upon which their society was built. Later, Optimus called upon a meeting with his science division to ask them to stay by his side and continue on with their mission of peaceful research, as they were protectors, not soldiers. While the aerial-based Cybertronians followed Megatron into space, Optimus confided in [[Prowl (Movie)|Prowl]] and [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] that Megatron sought to divide their planet, and he asked the former for help breaking into the the High Protector&#039;s personal quarters. {{storylink|Defiance issue 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Defiance3_OptimusPrime_battle.jpg|thumb|300px|Man...Prime ain&#039;t foolin&#039; around.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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After noting that Megatron had restored the artifact to pristine condition, Optimus had to leave the military leader&#039;s quarters just before he returned. Back at Burthov, he came upon [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], Arcee, and [[Elita-One]] scanning the pieces of the other artifacts. Arcee then discovered that the pieces all contained the same symbol on them, and that the same symbol was on Optimus&#039; head. Ratchet declared that the symbol was proof of the [[Dynasty of Primes]], and it indicated Optimus himself was a [[Dynasty of Primes|Prime]]. Ratchet and the other Autobots began to dub him &amp;quot;Optimus Prime&amp;quot;, although a humble Optimus noted they did not know what it meant and for all they knew, he could just be from a line of record clerks. As they discussed the revelations, Prowl was forced by Megatron to arrest Optimus, but this turned out to be a trap to kill him. Optimus bested Starscream, while Megatron formed his new faction, the [[Decepticon]]s. {{storylink|Defiance issue 3}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Retreating to Burthov with his fellow scientists and Prowl&#039;s security officers, Optimus was acknowledged as the leader of the group, with Prowl serving as his lieutenant. He and Prowl were discussing sites for a new base when Jazz informed them that Captain Ironhide of the [[Defense Force]] wanted to see Optimus. Learning of Megatron&#039;s new starship, the &#039;&#039;[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]&#039;&#039;, Optimus Prime was convinced by his advisers that their side needed a [[Ark (Movie)|ship of their own]] to prepare for any eventualities. The Autobots found themselves at an advantage when the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; left Cybertron with the balance of the Decepticon forces, and Optimus himself took the fight to their enemies. However, years of bloody war devastated the planet, and Optimus saw no end in sight, unless the main reason for fighting was removed from the conflict. He revealed his plan to capture the All Spark, and most assumed the Autobots would somehow take it aboard their ship. But Optimus&#039;s real plan was to blast the Cube into deep space, away from Cybertron and away from Megatron. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4}} &lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|In line with &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039;, [[Defiance]] changes the past relationship between Megatron and Optimus Prime as previously seen in IDW&#039;s [[Movie Prequel issue 1|first movie prequel]], where they ruled side by side as equals. This was because, like several other pieces of tie-in fiction, the first movie prequel comic was based upon an earlier draft of the 2007 movie, where Prime and Megatron were referred to as &amp;quot;brothers&amp;quot;, a reference that only survived in one line of dialogue in the final movie, which, according to writer [[Roberto Orci]], was intended to be open to interpretation.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Optimusprimemovieprequel.jpg|left|200px|thumb|All Primes are required to have window boobs.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The All Spark was successfully ejected into space at [[Tyger Pax]], where [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] distracted Megatron. Prime and the Autobots were held up in [[Simfur]] during the launch. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 1}} As they prepared to leave Cybertron on board the &#039;&#039;[[Ark (Movie)|Ark]]&#039;&#039; to go after the All Spark, Optimus Prime had some doubts about his decision, feeling that in buying them some time in the war, he had sentenced their world to death. [[Prowl (Movie)|Prowl]] disagreed, pointing out that had Megatron been able to claim the Cube, all those that opposed him would have been destroyed, and that Prime had turned death into a fighting chance for the Autobots. Bolstered by Prowl&#039;s words, Prime resolved to rebuild their shattered home once they retrieved the All Spark.  {{storylink|The Reign of Starscream Issue Number One|The Reign of Starscream issue 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Bumblebee remembered Optimus Prime&#039;s orders that they must launch the All Spark into space, for it was better to lose it to the depths of space than allow Lord Megatron to corrupt it with his evil. For where ever there is hope, there is life.  {{storylink|Transformers: Beginnings}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Titan Magazines &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movie comics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:OptimusMovie_GeoffSenior.JPG|250px|thumb|Starting as he means to go on.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When war broke out, Optimus studied the entire history of intergalactic warfare from any datatrack he could find—he studied whole campaigns to desperate last stands, gaining a focused &amp;quot;playbook&amp;quot; of warfare strategy. He understands warfare on a practical and psychological level, and in desperate battles knows to show no mercy to opponents beyond a swift death. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Autobot VS Decepticon Smackdown! - Megatron V. Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;, #4&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus was the focus of constant attacks by assassin drones and killed them all. In the aftermath of one, he witnessed a prophetic vision of the [[Mission City]] battle and realised the All Spark&#039;s ejection could spread war to other planets—but too late to stop the launch... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 1|Prelude: Optimus Prime}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Almost immediately after the final battle against Megatron, Optimus Prime had to lead the Autobots against a horde of [[Zombie|zombie]] Decepticons. Despite having no idea how they could be stopped and having had his power drained by fighting Megatron, Optimus continued to fight the monsters rather than let them run amok. Ratchet worked out a solution just in time before Optimus fell.  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 7|Starscream&#039;s Militia}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In the alternate reality, Megatron defeated Optimus and took the All Spark at [[Mission City]]. Prime&#039;s body was now partially frozen and in Decepticon hands. He was the last and only hope of the Earth resistance, and so Bumblebee and [[Mikaela Banes]] were not happy to find him offline.  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|Twilight&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part: 1}} &lt;br /&gt;
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She thawed him out while Bumblebee distracted Megatron, and the revived Prime challenged Megatron to a solo duel...  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 12|Twilight&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part: 4}} Unfortunately, Megatron&#039;s link to the All Spark meant Optimus could not do any lasting damage and was never going to win. Luckily, Bumblebee and Mikaela saved the day, hitting the distracted Megatron with an old [[Sector Seven]] nanovirus. (Which means &#039;&#039;they&#039;&#039; were the last and only hope, but oh well.)  Despite Megatron dying as a result and the All Spark being destroyed elsewhere, Prime could take no satisfaction in victory: this battle was won, but the war remained...  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 13|Twilight&#039;s Last Gleaming, Part: 5}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Optimus_Titan12.JPG|left|250px|thumb|&amp;quot;Megatron&#039;s face must be cut off...no MATTER THE COST!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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He became resigned to the fact that Humanity, battered by Decepticon occupation, would view both Autobot and Decepticon as hostile invaders. When [[NATO]] was manipulated into attacking the Autobots, Optimus refused to allow his men to return fire, and after the crisis passed, he was sure that [[Starscream (Movie)|the Decepticons&#039; unknown new commander]] was up to something bigger. Optimus also placed the last All Spark fragment in the care of Ratchet, though he was worried exposure to Megatron might have corrupted it.  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 14|Aftermath Part 1}}  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 15|Aftermath Part 2}} He was &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; happy when Ratchet &amp;quot;took care&amp;quot; of the fragment by bringing [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] back with it, who was left corrupted and amoral by it.  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 16|Dark Spark}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime soon worked out that while the All Spark&#039;s transformation of Earth had been halted, the damage had been done: the organic Earth and the technological transformation were now fighting for supremacy, killing the planet in the process. He called in a specialist team to investigate and limit the damage, while working with [[President of the United States|President Allen]]. In secret, he organised for [[Nucleon]] to be retrieved from the dead Cybertron and brought to Earth, as there was a long shot it could save the planet. He didn&#039;t tell the humans out of concern that if they knew about the plan and it failed, their hopes would be raised and dashed.  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 17|Return to Cybertron: Part 1}} It was bad enough that Nucleon was so unstable it could turn destructive...  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 18|Return to Cybertron: Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When the team on Cybertron sent an distress signal and reported [[Stockade (Movie)|Stockade&#039;s]] Decepticons had captured the Nucleon, Optimus led the entirety of the Earth-bound Autobots (save Camshaft&#039;s team) to Cybertron as back-up. He was then surprised to see Cybertron coming to &#039;&#039;them&#039;&#039;, looking [[Unicron|a lot meaner these days]]. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 19|Return to Cybertron: Part 3}} The planet&#039;s possessor, Unicron, shot down the Straxus and the Autobots survived only by evacuating it in time in [[Protoform|protoform]] modes. &lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus landed next to Stockade&#039;s old equipment and, after being filled in by [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]], he effortlessly formed an alliance with Stockade against Unicron. His plan was to drain the Nucleon away so Unicron couldn&#039;t use it as a power source, while the bulk of the Transformers provided a distraction, which turned out to be going underground and shooting up Unicron&#039;s body. The plan worked, Nucleon was secured for Earth, and Optimus extended an offer for Stockade to join them on Earth whenever he wished. Optimus was left optimistic that Autobots and Decepticons had come together in a common cause.  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 20|Return to Cybertron: Part 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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On returning to Earth, he found the Decepticons had seized the Autobot base and six hundred square miles around it; he made the decision to withdraw to [[Washington, D.C.]], knowing that this meant leaving Mikaela in Decepticon hands. Upon landing at an air base, the Decepticon-controlled President Allen lured him into a trap, and he found himself fighting Jazz, now a Decepticon hired gun. Optimus lured him away from humans and prepared to engage him, but when a second assassin named [[Kullt]] turned up, Jazz gunned it down out of annoyance. Optimus had viewed Jazz as a lost cause but now stated there was still some Autobot in him: he &#039;&#039;could&#039;&#039; have let Kullt do the work for him and then killed him, but he saved Prime instead.&lt;br /&gt;
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The battle made it clear to Optimus that Allen was under Decepticon mental control.  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 21|Hard Target}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Optimus Titan22.JPG|200px|thumb|Freedom is not dispensed here, sentient fools, only DEATH!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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As he&#039;d promised Bumblebee, Optimus took the Autobots to get Mikaela back; he himself went first, launching himself in [[Protoform|protoform]] mode to land in Savannah like a bomb and tearing his way through [[Swindle (Movie)|drone hordes]]. He was quickly gunned down by aerial units and about to be killed by Starscream, but this whole flashy attack had been a diversion—allowing other Autobots a chance to hit the distracted air forces and nab Mikaela. After the battle, Optimus remarked Starscream was no Megatron.  {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 22|The Decepticon Who Haunted Himself}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus seemed to quickly bond with [[General Seward]], his military liaison at Andrews Air Base, but that didn&#039;t help when the mind-controlled President Allen had the government order the Autobots out of America. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|Revolution Part One}} However, Prime had anticipated this. Almost two weeks before, he&#039;d had Ironhide task [[Tom Banachek]] to identify all the Decepticon puppets for him. With Allen making the expected move, he dispatched Ironhide and Bumblebee to set things up so that the following day, when the Autobots all departed, Allen would try to nuke them out of the sky and be fooled by a decoy ship into thinking he&#039;d killed them. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 25|Revolution Part Three}} &lt;br /&gt;
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To protect the Earth while they were undercover on Cybertron, Optimus had made a deal with Stockade to start a [[Decepticon Civil War]]. Optimus doesn&#039;t trust Stockade to not renege on the deal and just take control of Earth for himself, {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 24|Revolution Part Two}} but he ensured the Decepticons were set up for the Autobot&#039;s final strike: forcibly teleporting all of the enemy to Cybertron via Unicron&#039;s leftover teleportational engines, then stranding Cybertron in a remote solar system. Optimus led the troops to Earth and witnessed Megatron&#039;s return from the dead... only to &#039;&#039;thwack&#039;&#039; him flying. The next minute, both Megatron &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; Stockade (why wait for him to renege?) were teleported away, along with their forces. &lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime led the search for the All Spark in the &#039;&#039;[[Ark (Movie)|Ark]]&#039;&#039;, a transport vessel. When they came across an abandoned solar system, they located [[Ghost 1|a vessel]] of strangely Cybertronian design, seemingly of Decepticon make. When the vessel fled to the surface of a planet, Prime dispatched Bumblebee to investigate while he and the other Autobots battled Decepticons from the &#039;&#039;[[Nemesis (Movie)|Nemesis]]&#039;&#039;. Prime managed to defeat [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]], [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]], and [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] all on his own. After losing touch with Bumblebee, Prime went down to locate him on the planet, where they were attacked by [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and the alien ship. They fell into a cavern network, where they were further attacked by [[Worm-thing|indigenous worms]].&lt;br /&gt;
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During their flight from the creatures, Optimus Prime and Bumblebee came across the alien vessel. Prime realized that they were trying to surrender, so the Autobots communicated with its crew. Optimus explained that they came in peace, &amp;quot;freedom is the right of all sentient beings,&amp;quot; Starscream tricks everyone, and so on. However, the creatures, who called themselves &amp;quot;[[Human|humans]]&amp;quot;, explained that they held Megatron, whom they called the Ice Man, on their home world, [[Earth]]. Realizing the destruction Megatron would wreak upon the humans if he escaped, and that the humans would be unable to defend themselves effectively, Prime vowed to see them return to their world to warn it. Prime was able to blast an opening in the cavern, and the group escaped. As they returned to the &#039;&#039;Ark&#039;&#039;, Prime began to speculate that the All Spark was what drew Megatron to Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the ensuing battle with the Decepticons, Prime was in the difficult position of fighting Starscream and protecting the human ship. His distractions allowed Bonecrusher to spear him with his tail. The difficult state nearly gave Starscream the chance to kill him, but the humans saved Prime&#039;s life by damaging Starscream, who destroyed them. Optimus Prime was inspired by their courage and sacrifice, and resolved to locate Earth before the Decepticons did—and hopefully before Megatron came back online.  {{storylink|Ghosts of Yesterday}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Peter Cullen]] (English), [[Tesshō Genda]] (Japanese), [[Guilherme Briggs]] (Brazil), [[Reiner Schöne]] (German)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie OptimusPrime protoform.jpg|right|220px|thumb|Having overenergized the previous night, Prime woke up abandoned in a field, with his wallet and clothes stolen.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The leader of the Autobots, Optimus Prime, came to Earth shortly after [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] sent his comrades a beacon. Upon atmospheric reentry, Prime managed to land outside of [[Tranquility]]&#039;s inhabited areas. While Sam and Mikaela watched, Optimus transformed and fled his landing place. From atop a hill, he quickly scanned the form of an Earth truck, thus configuring his body to transform into it. Prime, [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]], [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] met up with Bumblebee and his human friends, [[Sam Witwicky]] and [[Mikaela Banes]] in an alley. In one of the most extended [[Transformation|transformations]] in the multiverse, Prime assumed his robotic form before the stunned humans. After confirming Sam&#039;s identity, Prime introduced himself and his team. When Mikaela asked of the Autobots&#039; intentions, Prime explained the search for the All Spark, the betrayal of Megatron, and why Sam was important to their search.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie PrimeSam parentsfreakout.jpg|left|300px|thumb|Optimus Prime will watch you fornicate. And there is nothing you can do about it.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Glasses that belonged to Sam&#039;s ancestor, [[Archibald Witwicky|Captain Archibald Witwicky]], contained the location of the All Spark encoded across its lenses, so Optimus Prime ordered his troops to wait outside Sam&#039;s house while Sam and Mikaela searched inside for the glasses.  Much to Sam&#039;s exasperation, Optimus Prime, in his impatience, clumsily ruined his parents&#039; garden, and the Autobots&#039; heavy footsteps convinced them there was an earthquake. Prime&#039;s attempts to hide, such as having the Autobots transform into vehicle mode right in the backyard, were also less than satisfactory. Ultimately, Sam came so close to a panic attack that Prime was forced to order the Autobots to fall back. As Prime lectured his team on their supposed inability to remain quiet, Ratchet got himself shocked by walking into some powerlines, causing further problems. When [[Ron Witwicky|the]] [[Judy Witwicky|parents]] came to investigate, Prime&#039;s attempt to avoid discovery caused the house to shake, though this was to their benefit, as the father assumed that the damage to the yard was the result of an earthquake. Ironhide suggested that they kill the parents, but Optimus scolded his old friend. Despite all this, their presence remained undetected until [[Sector Seven]] arrived (in a convoy of GMC Yukons) and abducted Sam, Mikaela, and Sam&#039;s parents.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie Optimus Prime S7 mad.JPG|right|300px|thumb|Get out of the car...what&#039;s left of it anyway!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Optimus Prime sent the Autobots in pursuit of the SUV that contained Sam, Mikaela, and Sector Seven&#039;s director, [[Seymour Simmons|Agent Simmons]]. Prime intercepted the vehicle carrying their young human friends, ripping the roof of the vehicle off, with the other Autobots disarming the agents, and made it perfectly clear to Simmons how pissed off he was at him for trying to apprehend the two children, regarding this as a bad move on Simmons&#039; behalf. Optimus then ordered his comrades to relieve the agents of their weapons, and attempted to interrogate Simmons. The agents&#039; lack of surprise at their appearance indicated that they had seen Cybertronians before, but Simmons refused to reveal any information. With a Sector Seven backup team en route, Prime ordered the Autobots to scatter, while he took Sam and Mikaela. While hiding under a bridge, Mikaela and Sam slipped and fell off Prime&#039;s shoulder. Bumblebee managed to catch them before impact, but was captured, and Sam and Mikaela recaptured, by the organization after their retreat. &lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime, now in possession of the glasses which could tell him the location of the All Spark, regretfully left Bumblebee in Sector Seven&#039;s hands, knowing that if they went after him, they would have to use deadly force. After regrouping the next day, Prime used the glasses to locate the All Spark. Jazz raised objections to leaving Bumblebee behind, but Prime remained firm in his belief of not harming the humans. Ironhide seemed okay with using deadly force, stating the humans were too violent, but Prime countered that when their time had come, the Cybertronians had been [[Cybertronian Civil Wars|little different]]. Going on to explain the potential he saw in the humans, as well as reminding them that &amp;quot;freedom is the right of all sentient beings&amp;quot;, Prime revealed to the Autobots his real plan for the All Spark: if they could not defeat the Decepticons, Prime intended to merge the Cube with his [[Spark|spark]]. Though this would destroy the All Spark, Ratchet cautioned Prime against this, as it would also kill him. Prime believed that this was acceptable, vowing not to let another race suffer the mistakes of the Transformers. The glasses placed the All Spark at [[Hoover Dam]] where, luckily, Bumblebee and the young humans were taken.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie2007 Prime sword.jpg|left|300px|thumb|Swiss army Prime.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Optimus Prime&#039;s team met up with Sector Seven, Bumblebee, Sam, and Mikaela en route, who had planned to hide the All Spark in nearby [[Mission City]]. While on the highway, he was attacked by [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]], who managed to tackle Optimus and drag him over the edge of a freeway overpass. During the battle, Optimus struck the rage filled Transformer so hard his [[Optic|optic]] popped out. As the Decepticon swung his claw wildly, Optimus drew his sword from his right arm and sliced off one of Bonecrusher&#039;s arms, before brutally finishing off his enemy by [[Decapitation|driving the blade through]] Bonecrusher&#039;s neck, severing his head.&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus arrived at Mission City just in time to observe Megatron discarding the remains of Jazz, and challenged him. Millennia in the ice had done nothing to lessen Megatron&#039;s hatred of his brother, and he launched himself in jet mode at the Autobot leader. Optimus leaped and grabbed hold of the wings, which was a really bad idea, as Megatron drove himself and Prime through an office block. As they flew out of the building onto the street below, Megatron transformed and leapt on top of Prime, declaring the humans undeserving of life. Prime rejected his claims, saying that they deserved to choose for themselves. Megatron threw Prime across the street, declaring that if he wished to defend the humans, Prime could die with them. He then formed his [[Fusion cannon|fusion cannon]] from his forearms. The power up time allowed Prime to draw his [[Ion blaster|ion blaster]] and fire, hitting Megatron. The Decepticon used the momentum to spin around, then used the fusion cannon to blast Prime across the street into another building. Megatron then resumed the hunt for Sam and the All Spark.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tracking Megatron to the deserted building, Prime barely managed to catch Sam after Megatron knocked him off the roof. Telling the boy to hold onto the Cube, Prime attempted to scale down the building, but Megatron jumped on Prime, causing them both to fall down hard onto the street below. Sam survived, however, and Optimus told the boy that if he could not defeat Megatron, Sam must put the All Spark into his chest which would destroy it. As Sam sought cover, Optimus faced down Megatron, and informed him that, &amp;quot;At the end of this day, one shall stand, one shall fall&amp;quot;. Unfortunately, Megatron, even after years of stasis, proved to be far too powerful for Prime to defeat alone. The unit led by Lennox and the Raptor squadron laid down suppressing fire as Megatron reached for the All Spark, until Optimus finally took him down by sweeping his legs. Still, Megatron continued, crawling toward the cube. Believing he had lost, Optimus implored Sam to put the All Spark into his chest. Sam instead thrust it into Megatron&#039;s chest, killing the Decepticon leader and destroying the All Spark.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie2007 Prime AllSpark shard.jpg|left|300px|thumb|The Autobot [[Matrix of Leadership|Dorito of leadership]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
As Optimus watched his brother die, he regretfully said there was little other choice. He also told Sam he owed him a debt of gratitude for saving his life, but was then informed that Jazz had not survived (Jazz was flapping around disrespectfully like a ragdoll during this sequence). Prime briefly eulogized his comrade, then commented that they had gained new comrades in the humans, and was honored by their bravery. Bumblebee, who had finally regained his voice, requested permission to remain with Sam Witwicky, to which the young human eagerly agreed, and Optimus approved. He noticed a fragment of the All Spark in Megatron&#039;s chest cavity and removed it, then permitted the humans to dispose of the Decepticon corpses by dumping them into the deepest part of the ocean.&lt;br /&gt;
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Though Megatron was killed and his Decepticons were defeated, the All Spark was destroyed, leaving the Autobots unable to restore Cybertron. The Autobots elected to remain on Earth, and Prime sent a message into deep space to any surviving Autobots in the Galaxy to come to their new home on Earth, their long years of searching having finally having come to an end. As the other Autobots rested (and watched Sam and Mikaela make out on Bumblebee&#039;s hood) Optimus Prime looked to the sky, hoping his message had been heard. {{storylink|Transformers (2007)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When the All Spark was destroyed, Optimus was &#039;&#039;bathed&#039;&#039; in its power and became a living receptacle: he could destroy or heal with the merest thought. He still remained dedicated to peace, and altered his exterior decorations to match the ones he bore as a young leader, before the beginning of the war. {{storylink|Optimus Prime (Movie) toys#Voyager Class toys|First Strike Optimus Prime}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When the war turned out to &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; be over though, and with more Decepticons appearing on Earth, he was forced to alter himself to be used for stealth missions—something he finds dishonourable but knows has to be done. He is now sensor transparent and silent. {{storylink|Optimus Prime (Movie) toys#Leader Class toys|Nightwatch Optimus Prime}} In this form, he came under surprise attack by an equally stealth-modified Starscream, leader of the new Decepticons! {{storylink|Optimus Prime (Movie) toys#Legends Class toys|Nightwatch Optimus Prime vs. Stealth Starscream}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Once the Decepicons were beaten on Earth, Optimus was given intelligence by [[Sector Seven]] on Decepticon activity on Mars. He immediately altered his form to blend in to Mars, and headed off to &#039;&#039;personally&#039;&#039; hunt the enemy down. {{storylink|Optimus Prime (Movie) toys#Fast Action Brawlers|Fire Blast Optimus Prime}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:AllianceOptimusHoloDriver.jpg|right|250px|thumb|[[Peter Cullen|Optimus Prime]] driving Optimus Prime! Sheer awesomeness!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the battle of [[Mission City]], and the destruction of Megatron and the All Spark, Optimus Prime was left to ferry the body of his first lieutenant [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] out of the city in an abandoned trailer. Trusting [[William Lennox|Captain Lennox]] and his men, Prime asked the human soldiers to help the Autobots escape from the city, before [[Sector Seven]] and other untrustworthy humans could arrive. A month later, [[Seymour Simmons|Agent Simmons]] managed to convince Lennox and [[Robert Epps|Sergeant Epps]] to call upon the assistance of Optimus Prime and the Autobots to escort the Decepticon remains, thereby hopefully reactivating the Decepticon [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]] somehow.  {{storylink|Alliance issue 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus, Ironhide, Ratchet and Bumblebee arrived at Sector Seven&#039;s Nevada desert base to escort the a naval base at [[California|San Diego, California]]. Optimus insisted on escorting Jazz&#039;s remains personally, and thanked Lennox for arraigning a proper burial-at-sea for his fallen lieutenant. When he noticed the All Spark shard seemingly reacting to the Decepticon bodies, he handed the fragment to [[Professor Vine]] for safekeeping until he returned. Shortly after leaving the base, Optimus had second thoughts about leaving the fragment in Sector Seven&#039;s possession, and ordered Bumblebee and Ironhide to turn around and retrieve the only remaining piece of the All Spark.  {{storylink|Alliance issue 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Alliance3_OptimusPrime_Lennox.jpg|thumb|left|300px|&amp;quot;So erm, want to go back to my place?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Prime, are you trying to get onto me?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt; &amp;quot;No dude, I just want to show you my collection of faces and heads!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The convoy returned to the Sector Seven base after learning of Wreckage and Starscream&#039;s attacks. [[Salani]] retrieved the All Spark shard and returned it to Optimus Prime, who felt the last piece of their heritage should stay with him. Weeks later, the Autobots and the soldiers with whom they served with traveled aboard a [[United States Navy|US Navy]] carrier for Jazz&#039;s burial-at-sea and to observe the disposal of the Decepticons. Optimus deeply appreciated the humans&#039; paying last respects to their fallen comrade, though he was concerned that even the great depths of the Laurentian Abyss were not enough to keep the Decepticon bodies hidden. Below deck, Optimus and Lennox agreed to a formal [[N.E.S.T.|alliance between the Autobots and humans]] as the first line of offense and defense against the Decepticons. During training on the island of [[Diego Garcia]], Optimus Prime reminded the Autobots that they must work together with the humans as a team, never forgetting that division was what caused the war on Cybertron in the first place. When they were alone, Optimus Prime and Major Lennox complimented each other&#039;s leadership and the dedication of their respective troops. When Lennox commented that it was because of the Autobots that he and his soldiers were alive today, Optimus refuted this, saying it was because of humans such as Lennox and Sam, and that the Autobots were only part of the problem. Soon, both [[N.E.S.T.]] leaders learned that the Decepticons had returned to Earth. {{storylink|Alliance issue 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Alliance4_Prime_killingspree.jpg|thumb|300px|Freedom is the right of all &#039;&#039;&#039;non-Decepticon&#039;&#039;&#039; sentient beings.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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NEST was deployed to [[San Francisco]], where the Decepticons [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]] and [[Dead End (Movie)|Dead End]] were wreaking havoc. Flushed out of hiding, the Decepticons managed to evade the other Autobots, but Optimus Prime quickly put down Dead End by ramming him head-on. When asked by Prime, he commented that he was fine, but he wasn&#039;t sure if Dead End was. On the way back to base, Lennox and Optimus Prime discussed Swindle&#039;s last words and were concerned that this was just the first wave of Decepticons coming to Earth, and that they were after [[Sam Witwicky]]. Optimus convinced Lennox that no matter what, it was Sam&#039;s destiny to become involved in this conflict, and they agreed to send Bumblebee back to the States to resume his role as the boy&#039;s guardian. Later, when Optimus observed the distrust for the Autobots held by Lennox&#039;s superiors, he suggested that they must work harder and that continued success would satisfy those above them. During the subsequent hunt for Decepticons around the world, Optimus Prime personally destroyed [[Jetstorm (Movie)|Jetstorm]], [[Dropkick]] and [[Incinerator (Movie)|Incinerator]]. As NEST&#039;s ranks grew, together they celebrated their victories and mourned those who made the ultimate sacrifice. One event brought joy and hope to the team: The arrival of Autobot refugees who were eager to protect their new homeworld. This joy was tempered by the fact more and more Decepticons were being sighted on Earth, and Optimus believed that there was some unknown that threatened their new home, their species and their alliance with the humans. {{storylink|Alliance issue 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;The Veiled Threat&#039;&#039; prequel novel===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Note|The events of &#039;&#039;The Veiled Threat&#039;&#039; take place during [[IDW Publishing]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[Alliance (comic)|Alliance]]&#039;&#039; comic.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; film===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Peter Cullen]] (English), [[Tesshō Genda]] (Japanese), [[Guilherme Briggs]] (Brazil), [[Reiner Schöne]] (German)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{spoiler|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|July 24, 2009}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTF-DemolishorPrime.jpg|thumb|left|250px|With the Legends and Voyager toys, this scene is &#039;&#039;just&#039;&#039; possible.]]&lt;br /&gt;
After the events in [[Mission City]] two years ago, Optimus Prime and the Autobots became part of a Transformer/human military group called [[NEST]], which hunted down the remaining Decepticons across the world.  When [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]] and [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] were detected in Shanghai, NEST was deployed there, including the Autobots [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]], [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]], [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]], [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]].  Once Demolishor made himself known by transforming into robot mode and crushing dozens of cars along the highway, Optimus Prime parachuted out of a NEST cargo plane and landed in vehicle mode.  He leapt off a bridge onto the Decepticon&#039;s head and wrestled the titan to the ground.  With his dying breath, the Constructicon stated that [[The Fallen]] would rise again. Optimus responded in the negative and unceremoniously executed him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Returning to [[Diego Garcia]], Prime entered a briefing with [[Theodore Galloway]], the National Security Adviser who had been appointed liaison by the [[President of the United States|President]], and [[Morshower]], the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who was watching by satellite feed. Prime relayed the warning of The Fallen to them, but Galloway made no effort to conceal his hostility toward the Autobots. He took issue with their refusal to share weapons technology and their continued sending of transmissions into space. Prime told Galloway that the Autobots were aware of humanity&#039;s history of warfare, and Morshower said that all the transmissions had been vetted by NEST officers. Galloway also pointed out that the Decepticons had not left Earth as Optimus had hoped, leading him to conclude that the Autobots were the ones who the Decepticons were after. When asked if the Autobots would leave Earth if told to, Optimus replied that they would comply, but warned Galloway to consider what would happen if the Autobots left but the Decepticons did not.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unknown to Prime, the Decepticon [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] had been monitoring transmissions and spied in on the briefing. Dispatching [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] to the island, he had his agent steal the remaining All Spark fragment from the island so it could be used to revive Megatron. Optimus was unaware of the Decepticons&#039; goal, so it is understandable that he became more preoccupied by the resulting cool relations with the United States. Seeking outside help, Optimus dispatched Bumblebee to retrieve Sam Witwicky from college in an effort to secure his testimony on the Autobots&#039; behalf. Meeting Sam at an abandoned cemetery near his college, Optimus explained the situation. Sam was not receptive; in fact, he was quite hostile, saying that he had just started college and was trying to have a normal life. Knowing that fate often called at inconvenient times, Optimus impressed upon Sam the importance of what was going on, but Sam reiterated that the Cybertronian War was not his. Optimus relayed his fear that it soon would be.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTFPrimevsMegsandScreamer.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Stick em&#039; up!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Prime&#039;s fear soon came to pass, but in the last way he could imagine: Megatron had learned that the knowledge of the All Spark had been passed to Sam by a fragment Sam had touched, and soon captured him, Mikaela, and Sam&#039;s college roommate [[Leo Spitz]]. Heading to rescue the three humans, Optimus and Bumblebee ambushed the Decepticons in the abandoned industrial complex where the teens were being held, just as [[Scalpel]] was about to perform fatal neurosurgery on Sam. Managing to whisk Sam away from the plant, Optimus made it as far as the nearby forest when Megatron arrived. Going one-on-one with the Decepticon leader, Prime managed to hold his own until Starscream and [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] arrived. Prime was forced to run interference between Megatron and Starscream, who pursued Sam. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTF Optimus vs Grindor.jpg|thumb|left||250px|&#039;&#039;Roses are red,&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Violets are blue,&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;this poem doesn&#039;t rhyme,&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;NOW GIVE ME YOUR FACE&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;]]As the battle raged, Megatron told Prime that the boy was the key to finding another energon source, then shattered his [[mouthplate]] and sent him flying back with a point blank shot. Megatron asked if the boy&#039;s life was greater than the future of their race, but Prime knew that he would never stop with a single life. Declaring that he&#039;d take them all on, Optimus Prime unsheathed both [[battle blade]]s and fought a three-on-one fight against the Decepticons. Surprisingly, not only did he manage to hold his own, he was actually winning, managing to stab Megatron multiple times, slice off Starscream&#039;s arm and use it as a club, and rip apart Grindor&#039;s head. However, Megatron managed to stab his own sword through Optimus Prime&#039;s chest, following with a point blank shot through his injured back. Critically injured, Optimus implored the still-observing Sam to run. Although the rest of the Autobots soon arrived and drove off Megatron and Starscream, Optimus Prime was [[The_many_deaths_of_Optimus_Prime|dead]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Soon after, The Fallen made his presence known and demanded Sam Witwicky be turned over to him or the world would be destroyed. Galloway used this as a reason to shut down NEST and ordered the Autobots returned to Diego Garcia under guard, along with Prime&#039;s corpse (which was unceremoniously dropped from multiple helicopters). Fortunately, Bumblebee, and [[Skids (ROTF)|the]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Twins]] managed to spirit Sam, Mikaela, and Leo away before The Fallen made his announcement. With help from their former enemy Seymour Simmons and the Decepticon-turned-Autobot [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]], the group discovered that Sam&#039;s mind contained the Language of the Primes, to which group The Fallen had once belonged. The human/Autobot group managed to locate the Seeker [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]], who told them of how the [[Seven Primes]] forged a [[solar harvester]] to use a star&#039;s energy to replenish the All Spark, and the [[Matrix of Leadership]], needed to activate the harvester, until they were betrayed by The Fallen, who tried to harvest [[Sun|Sol]] in defiance of the Primes&#039; rule of the sanctity of life. Sam hit upon the idea to use the Matrix to restore Optimus to life, similar to how the Decepticons had used the All Spark fragment to resurrect Megatron. Having been teleported to [[Egypt]] by Jetfire, the group managed to relay the information to Major Lennox and Sergeant Epps, who faked engine trouble over Petra, where the [[Tomb of the Primes]] was located. Unfortunately, the Matrix had turned to dust in the thousands of years since its entombment, but Sam still believed that it could be used to revive Optimus. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTF Optimus sphinx.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Upon consideration, Optimus decided not to add the Sphinx&#039;s face to his collection, but only because it was already damaged.]]&lt;br /&gt;
However, the Decepticons were still looking for the harvester and the Matrix needed to activate it. Sam was technically killed in the battle, during which he communed with the six Primes from the tomb, who restored the Matrix. Jamming it in the fallen Autobot&#039;s chest, Sam used the Matrix to restore Optimus Prime to life. Unfortunately, The Fallen soon arrived and stole the Matrix. Having been fatally injured by [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]], Jetfire offered his parts to Optimus, as only a Prime could defeat The Fallen, and snuffed out his own spark. After Ratchet and [[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]] finished attaching Jetfire&#039;s wings and thrusters to Prime&#039;s body, Optimus hurried to the [[Great Pyramid of Giza]], which had been constructed around the harvester, and damaged the machine before it could destroy Earth&#039;s sun. Optimus Prime then faced Megatron and the Fallen, using Megatron&#039;s own blaster to shoot off half his face and quickly sending him through some ruins. Telling the Fallen he had picked the wrong planet, Optimus ripped off The Fallen&#039;s face and punched through his abdomen, crushing his spark core and forcing Megatron and Starscream to retreat.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the return voyage home, Optimus and Sam discussed what they had seen and experienced. Though he did not know what the future held for their races, Optimus Prime declared that the Autobots and humans would face it together, as they had millennia before. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|The film&#039;s official adaptations note Optimus is an orphan, implying he is the son of one of the [[Seven Primes]] (although their number was [[Thirteen original Transformers|thirteen]] since these were based on early drafts of the script). He was presumably young enough to have no knowledge of his family when hidden from The Fallen as he waged war against his brethren on Cybertron.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Games==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; The Game (console)===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Peter Cullen]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime provides intelligence and missions to Bumblebee in his search for the All Spark. Eventually, the clues lead the Autobot to Sam Witwicky. After saving Sam from Barricade, Bumblebee finally completes preparations for the Autobots to arrive on Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once on Earth, and having informed the two teenagers of their mission, Prime and the Autobots are discovered by Sector 7. Optimus sends Jazz on a high-speed &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;destruction&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; distraction mission, then sends Ironhide to rescue Jazz from a double-threat posed by the government agents and various Decepticon scouts.&lt;br /&gt;
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When Bumblebee is captured, Prime transforms and chases the chopper which from which the small Autobot is tied. After a lengthy chase, Prime manages to catch the net, only to be thrown off by another Cybertronian meteor. As Bumblebee is carried away, Optimus promises he will not fail him again. Jazz informs him that the meteor is not an Autobot. Prime confronts the new threat, who turns out to be the Decepticon triplechanger [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]]. The two battle it out across [[Tranquility]] before Optimus finally destroys him. But not without overhearing [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]&#039;s transmission revealing the location of the All Spark.&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus then returns to an intel role as he guides Bumblebee in his mission to retrieve the All Spark from Hoover Dam. Unfortunately, the Decepticons manage to free Megatron, leading to the final battle in Mission City.&lt;br /&gt;
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As the Autobots battle it out with the Decepticons to protect Sam and the All Spark, things seem to take a turn for the worst as Megatron finally arrives. But before he can claim the cube, Optimus attacks him.&lt;br /&gt;
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The two battle it out until Megatron is finally on the ground, seemingly devoid of life. Optimus then kneels to take the All Spark as Sam hands it to him. Megatron however awakens, leaping at Optimus with his chain-flail out, and making one last attempt at defeating his adversary. Optimus grabs the chain, pulling Megatron in closer, and with the All Spark clutched in his fist, delivers a punch through Megatron&#039;s spark. As Megatron dies, Optimus reflects on the losses and rewards of this battle, as the Autobots have a new home. Optimus plans to guard the humans in secret, &amp;quot;For freedom is the right of all sentient beings.&amp;quot;  {{storylink|Transformers The Game (console)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|If played in Decepticon mode, Optimus is beaten to the ground, and as he crawls for the All Spark, Megatron smashes his head with his flail before using the cube to destroy humanity.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Autobots&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Peter Cullen]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Arriving late on Earth, Optimus meets up with the other Autobots to give further commands to his troops.  [[Create-A-Bot (Autobot)|Create-A-Bot]], the new rookie, is eager to help in the cause, but Optimus tells him to sit back while the grown-ups take care of business.  Getting fed up with the bureaucracy, Create-A-Bot finally defies orders and completes a mission against Optimus&#039;s council.  After nearly getting himself and the other Autobots killed, Create-A-Bot apologizes to Optimus personally.  Taking pity on the newcomer, Optimus lets him off with a stern warning, and they move out together to face Megatron. During the fight, Create-A-Bot sacrifices himself to save his commander. Megatron defeated, Optimus commends the young Autobot as a war hero, and sends out an interstellar message to any Cybertronians living among the stars.  {{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Autobots}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Decepticons&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Peter Cullen]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Landing on Earth, Optimus Prime quickly joins the other Autobots to attempt to stop the Decepticons. Prime didn&#039;t appear on the battlefield until Megatron himself was released and Starscream escaped with the All Spark.  He stepped in to thwart the maniacal leader of the Decepticons, but alas, was struck down, left in the streets while Megatron gave chase to his traitorous second-in-command.  {{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Decepticons}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen - The Game&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Peter Cullen]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoon}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Commercial appearances==&lt;br /&gt;
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* As part of the hype buildup to the movie&#039;s release, Optimus Prime made a brief cameo at the 2007 MTV Movie Awards, interacting with host Sarah Silverman.  The scene spliced Silverman into pre-existing movie footage, but featured new dialogue recorded for the event by Peter Cullen.  Prime heavily hinted that he wanted to present an award, but was rejected for a regular MTV fan.&lt;br /&gt;
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* According to a tie-in advertisement for [[Burger King]], Prime likes his Whoppers with no onions, no cheese, extra pickles, with a side of ????. However, due to a cruel twist of fate, he can never enjoy the sweet taste of beefy victory. He saved the world from the Decepticons, and still he can&#039;t even have it his way? Where&#039;s the justice?&lt;br /&gt;
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* Optimus Prime (in truck mode) made an appearance at [[BotCon 2007]], alongside the [[Sector Seven Mobile Command Unit]]. He was available for pictures all weekend. He made a second appearance at [[BotCon 2009]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* Optimus threw a trailer during his appearance on an [[M&amp;amp;M&#039;s]] commercial.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In 2009, Optimus appeared on &#039;&#039;The Late Show With David Letterman&#039;&#039; to declare the &amp;quot;Top Ten Things That Sound Cool When Said By A Giant Robot&amp;quot;. Optimus said it was nice to be there, although David was &#039;&#039;clearly&#039;&#039; concerned by having an 28-feet tall robot in the studio because of a bad history of robots messing up the place, and during the presentation Letterman decided there was something about Prime he didn&#039;t like. Anyway, the top ten was:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;li value=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Jergens lotion leaves my hands silky smooth.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li value=&amp;quot;9&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Do you have these khakis in size 114?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li value=&amp;quot;8&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;My perfect night involves a pint of Haagen-Dazs and season three of &#039;&#039;Sex and the City&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li value=&amp;quot;7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Man do I love me some &#039;taters.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li value=&amp;quot;6&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;It was so hot in Central Park, I saw a squirrel rubbing sunblock on his nuts.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li value=&amp;quot;5&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;You seemed a little pitchy, dawg.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li value=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Brody Jenner has added you as a friend on Facebook.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li value=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Live from New York, it&#039;s Saturday night.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li value=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;My parents wanted me to be a Rabbi.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;li value=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;quot;All the slammin&#039; shorties in the house say &#039;Yeah&#039;.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://lateshow.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/video_player/index/php/991507.phtml Lateshow CBS archive video of Optimus&#039;s guest spot.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Merchandise==&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Optimus Prime (Movie) toys#Merchandise|Merchandise]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Movie Primetruck before.jpg|right|150px|thumb|8:30 pm: &amp;quot;Trick My Truck&amp;quot;. Tonight&#039;s guest: [[Alpha Trion (disambiguation)|Alpha Trion]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
* When Optimus&#039; design was first revealed, many fans of the Generation 1 series objected to the flames seen on Prime&#039;s body. When asked in an interview why he put the flames on, [[Michael Bay]] claimed he liked them because it was &amp;quot;cool&amp;quot;. It was later revealed on a special featurette on the DVD that the flames were added because, apparently, red is not very good to film on camera, so Bay chose a blue truck but used the flames so that when Optimus transformed, the layout would result in maintaining his iconic red chest.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The announcement of [[Peter Cullen]] as Prime&#039;s voice actor in the movie is credited by some fans as alleviating many fan tensions about the movie. Not all tensions, mind you, as there are some who just will never be satisfied, but it put the fans in a good mood.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[TakaraTomy]] officially recognizes Optimus Prime&#039;s vehicle mode as a [http://www.kenworth.com/2100_vir_w900.asp Kenworth W900 truck], even though the vehicle used for filming was a modified [http://www.peterbilt.com/index_gal_mod_desc.asp?model=model379 Peterbilt 379], a different model from a different brand, although both are made by the PACCAR company.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=121424?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..2.* Article at Edmunds.com on some of the vehicles used in the movie]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Movie OptimusPrime truckrear.jpg|right|150px|thumb|No container for you!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Prime&#039;s truck mode is apparently intended to haul a flatbed trailer, based on the presence of the large silver &amp;quot;headache rack&amp;quot;, a piece of optional equipment that protects the driver in case a flatbed load breaks free during braking.  It is generally not installed on trucks hauling enclosed container trailers.  &lt;br /&gt;
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* Despite this, the one time that Prime has been seen with a trailer, it&#039;s an enclosed trailer (with a design based on Generation 1 Optimus Prime&#039;s [[Combat Deck]]), commandeered by the Autobots for use as Jazz&#039;s coffin after the battle of [[Mission City]] in [[IDW Publishing]]&#039;s [[Alliance (comic)|Alliance]] comic book series.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie Prime Trucklogomistake.jpg|right|150px|thumb|In the darkness, a PA will misread &amp;quot;Truck A&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;Truck B&amp;quot;, and there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth -- Revelation 11:7.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* When Optimus Prime scans a truck for his new body, the passing truck has what appears to be an Autobot sigil on its grill, but the actual truck that Prime turns into at the end of the scene has a much wider, flatter symbol on the grill, which looks rather more like that of Peterbilt. Then, Prime has an Autobot sigil on his grill while driving to meet the other Autobots.&lt;br /&gt;
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* According to the free trading cards from the Boston Globe, Optimus is 28 feet tall, weighs 4.3 metric tons, and his primary weapon is an [[Ion blaster|ion blaster]]. (Considering Optimus&#039;s height, however, this weight would seem implausible.)&lt;br /&gt;
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* In the Japanese dub of the movie, he is given his original western name of Optimus Prime rather than the Japanese equivalent, Convoy. Just as Peter Cullen voiced Prime in the English version of the film, Tesshō Genda (the voice of G1 Convoy) reprised his role for the Japanese dub.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Optimus Prime computer generated model consisted of 10,108 individual parts, 1,830,898 polygons, 27,744 rig nodes, and 2336 texture maps.  The volume of all pieces combined came to 5445 cubic feet.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robertson, Barbara (2007). Heavy Metal. &#039;&#039;Computer Graphics, 30&#039;&#039;(7), 12-17.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* It said in the Autobots game in the DS, Prime&#039;s father was killed by Megatron.  However, since it is also widely known that Prime and Megatron were brothers, Megatron killed his own dad.  Not that this is surprising, though.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In Titan Magazines &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; comics, Optimus&#039;s Cybertronian robot mode is exactly like his Earth mode, but with different weapons, yet his Cybertronian mode is a mostly silver protoform—with no truck windows. Odd.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Of the Optimus Primes in all the existing continuities, this one is probably the most aggressive incarnation, based on how he speaks to [[Seymour Simmons|government officials]] and his utter ruthlessness in battle. Additionally, he seems obsessed with destroying the heads of his opponents. In &#039;&#039;[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]&#039;&#039;, Prime [[Decapitation|decapitates]] [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]] and tries pulling off [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]&#039;s head. In &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of The Fallen]]&#039;&#039;, Optimus severely damages [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]]&#039;s head before putting the lethal bullet in it, he tries pulling off [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream&#039;s]] head with his foot, &#039;&#039;rips apart&#039;&#039; [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor&#039;s]] head with hooks, shoots off part of Megatron&#039;s face, and &#039;&#039;rips off&#039;&#039; [[The Fallen]]&#039;s face before killing him. Considering [[Michael Bay|the director]] of those two movies, this is understandable. On the plus side, it has also given us some of the most violent and (arguably) best action sequences in &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; history. It has also made it apparent that, aside from destruction of the [[spark|Spark]], destruction of the head seems to be the best way to kill a Transformer. Besides, if decapitation doesn&#039;t kill them, it&#039;ll at least blind them.&lt;br /&gt;
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* This incarnation of Optimus Prime doesn&#039;t do the best burials in the world, either - giving what can at best be described as a half-hearted goodbye to his [[Jazz (Movie)|first lieutenant]] at the end of the first movie, and unceremoniously dumping the parts of [[Jetfire (ROTF)|the converted Decepticon who had given him the power to defeat the Fallen]] at the conclusion of the second film.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.tfu.info/2007/Autobot/ProtoformOptimusPrime/optimusprime.htm Optimus Prime at TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.seibertron.com/toys/index.php?f_series=40&amp;amp;f_name=optimus&amp;amp;f_type=exact&amp;amp;Submit=Search Galleries of various different Optimus Prime toys from the Movie]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Dinobot (G1)</title>
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:&#039;&#039;The Dinobots are an [[Autobot]] [[subgroup]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].  In some continuities, before they arrive on Earth, they are known as the &#039;&#039;&#039;Dynobots&#039;&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:DinobotDreamwave1.jpg|right|400px|thumb|Call them the boy-band of the Autobots and prepare for a world of pain. From left to right: Sludge, Grimlock, Swoop, Slag and Snarl]]&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;Dinobots&#039;&#039;&#039; are a rowdy, arrogant, lowbrow, disobedient band of warriors that some Autobots would rather scrap than deal with. They&#039;re also one of the most devastatingly powerful and close-knit combat units in the Autobot army, being incredibly powerful in robot mode and taking [[Alternate mode|alternate modes]] based on [[Dinosaur|dinosaurs]], the most powerful creatures to ever roam the [[Earth]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Most of them dislike [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], so whether or not they follow the [[Prime (rank)|Autobot leader]]&#039;s orders depends on what those orders are. If it&#039;s to destroy stuff, they&#039;re down with that. If it&#039;s to help people, it kinda depends on what the weather is like.&lt;br /&gt;
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The group&#039;s members are:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] (the leader)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Slag (G1)|Slag]] (the bad boy)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] (the dim one)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]] (the quiet one)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] (the sensitive one)&lt;br /&gt;
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and in one story:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Paddles (character)|Paddles]] (the [[wikipedia:Pete_Best|&amp;quot;Pete Best&amp;quot;]] one)&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;In at least [[The Beast Within|one]] [[micro-continuity]], the Dinobots can combine to form a monstrous super-robot called [[Beast (G1)|the Beast]].  (Grimlock explicitly states that this is not the case in the Marvel UK continuity, though he has been known to stretch the truth. [[Ruined FOREVER|Hopefully not here though]].)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|Crash and Burn!|Dinobot unit motto|[[Maximum Dinobots]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Portuguese name (Portugal comic):&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Dinobóticos&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Hungarian name (second [[The Transformers: The Movie|Movie]] dub):&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Dínók&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Portuguese name (Brazil comic):&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Robodinos&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Hungarian name (first [[The Transformers: The Movie|Movie]] dub):&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Vasállatok&#039;&#039;&#039; (Iron-animals)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
=== Marvel Comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Dinobots Bad News.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Pretty much says it all.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{note|The Dinobots in the Marvel comic were not created on [[Earth]], as in the cartoon, but were a distinct and pre-existing unit of five Autobot soldiers who were aboard the &#039;&#039;[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]&#039;&#039; when it crashed to Earth. The comic Dinobots, while not exactly [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]-grade, were significantly more intelligent than their cartoon counterparts.  (Their commander, Grimlock, served as overall Autobot Commander on more than one occasion.) However, they were not as strong as their cartoon counterparts, either.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Shortly after the crash, the &#039;&#039;Ark&#039;&#039;&#039;s computer detected [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] landing on the planet in the [[Antarctica|Antarctic]] land-out-of-time that would one day become known as the [[Savage Land]]. The &#039;&#039;Ark&#039;&#039; used the last of its capabilities to revive these five warriors and rebuild them to transform into the Savage Land&#039;s dominant lifeform: dinosaurs.  {{storylink|The Last Stand|The Last Stand}} They were then dispatched to deal with the Decepticon, where they sank to the bottom of a tar pit and remained dormant until [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] revived them in the 1980s.  {{storylink|Repeat Performance!|Repeat Performance!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cartoon continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DinobotsG1.jpg|center|400px|thumb|From left to right: Terrible Dactyl, Stego, Bronto Thunder, Tricero and Ghengis Rex, or: &amp;quot;We need Dinozord Power, now!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{note|Built on [[Earth]] by [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], the Dinobots were a subgroup of Autobots with great physical power but very limited intelligence. Early on in the cartoon they are played as very dangerous (though dim) wildcards, whose great power makes them a huge advantage to the Autobots when they can be persuaded to cooperate. However, beginning with [[The Transformers: The Movie]] and in the following third season, the Dinobots are portrayed almost exclusively as comic relief: goofy childlike morons whose (arguably even greater) stupidity made them a detriment to be babysat, rather than an advantage to be courted. No in-continuity reason for this shift in their mentality is ever given, though it has been the subject of fan speculation.}}&lt;br /&gt;
The Dinobots were modeled after the dinosaur fossils that [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] found in the volcanic caves near the &#039;&#039;Ark&#039;&#039;.  Grimlock, Slag, and Sludge were built first.  {{storylink|S.O.S. Dinobots|S.O.S. Dinobots}}  After some initial troubles, their performance pleased [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] enough that he had two more built, adding Snarl and Swoop to the ranks.  {{storylink|War of the Dinobots|War of the Dinobots}} &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:GrimSlagSludge.jpg|right|250px|thumb|The Three Dinobots, immediately after accidentally killing the Invisible Swordsman.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The Dinobots&#039; role was simply to pulverize anyone or anything that was too strong for the Autobots to handle on their own. In the process, they frequently mouthed off, rebelled and started brawls inside of Autobot Headquarters (and the occasional [[Trypticon (G1)|dinosaur-shaped city]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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At one point, the Dinobots became sick of only being used as the hammer of the Autobot army, so they deserted, saying that they would fight when &#039;&#039;they&#039;&#039; wanted to. However, the Dinobots were called in when the Autobots and the Decepticons began suffering from [[Cybertonium]] depletion. During the battle with the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], they were accidentally sent to Cybertron, where they briefly reduced [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] to the role of chew toy.  {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1}} However, Shockwave altered the Dinobots&#039; memory circuits and forced them to work in the [[Cybertonium Pit]]. [[Spike Witwicky]] and [[Carly Witwicky (G1)|Carly]] managed to rescue them, and the Dinobots decided to follow Optimus Prime&#039;s orders... until such time that they decided not to do so.  {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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During the [[Battle of Autobot City|Battle]] of [[Autobot City]], the Dinobots were dispatched to defeat [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. Despite their incredible strength, Devastator manhandled them. During [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]&#039;s subsequent attack, [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] and [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] literally had to drag them aboard the shuttle, which was shot down over [[Quintessa]]. The Dinobots managed to avoid being captured and met [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]], who helped them find Kup and Hot Rod. Later, the Dinobots literally kicked the butt of [[Unicron|a god]].  {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie|The Transformers: The Movie}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|The Dinobots&#039; creation is the source of a continuity clash in the cartoons.  See below for more.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;The Beast Within&#039;&#039; continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
The Dinobots [[Combiner|combine]] into the [[Beast (G1)|Beast]] to fight the Decepticons, but the Beast is so savage and kill-crazy that the Autobots have to kill it.  {{storylink|The Beast Within|The Beast Within}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;This story is regarded in [[fandom]] as being one of the nadirs of Transformers fiction and as completely messing up the chance to show a Dinobot combiner.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Dreamwave comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ScrollDinobots.jpg|right|200px|thumb|A Dinobot by any other name would still kick your ass]]&lt;br /&gt;
It was established that Grimlock once commanded a splinter faction of Autobots known as the [[Lightning Strike Coalition]], which included the Dynobots. It was also established that following this, these five robots used the Cybertronian designation &amp;quot;D&#039;&#039;&#039;y&#039;&#039;&#039;nobots&amp;quot;.  {{storylink|The War Within: The Dark Ages|The War Within: The Dark Ages}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The Dynobots traveled to Earth separately from the rest of the Autobots. Grimlock emerged on his own, and the &#039;&#039;Ark&#039;&#039; Autobots found him battling the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]]. The fate of the other Dinobots was unknown, but somehow Megatron had captured them and kept them in stasis in a secret base. After being freed, they traveled to Cybertron and helped liberate it from Shockwave&#039;s control.  {{storylink|War and Peace|War and Peace}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Devil&#039;s Due comic continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
The Dinobots were originally five present-day Autobots who were sent back in time, and reformatted into dinosaurs. When [[G.I. Joe]] traveled back in time, they recovered the Dinobots, who proceeded to beat Shockwave&#039;s Decepticons three ways from Sunday.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; anthology===&lt;br /&gt;
The story &amp;quot;[[Paddles (story)|Paddles]]&amp;quot; features a [[Paddles (character)|sixth Dinobot of the same name]]. This is also the only appearance of the character.  {{storylink|Paddles (story)|Paddles}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== IDW comics continuity ===&lt;br /&gt;
{{ongoing}}&lt;br /&gt;
Before the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], Grimlock and the Dynobots were amongst the gladiatorial teams that competed in the [[Forge]]. When Megatron put out a call for combatants, the Dynobots were amongst those who were shown grudging respect by the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] as opposed to the remainder of the &amp;quot;amateurs&amp;quot; in the crowd.  {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3|Megatron Origin issue 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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And by that, what we &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; mean is that Grimlock and Slag had never met before both were thrown in a brig for pissing off their commanding officers (&#039;&#039;shooting&#039;&#039; them in Slag&#039;s case). Bonding over their mutual desire to get things done and ignore the rules, they decided to form their own strike team: the Dynobots. In a personal quirk, however, Slag didn&#039;t want them to be seen as a &#039;&#039;proper&#039;&#039; team.  {{storylink|Maximum Dinobots issue 2|Maximum Dinobots issue 2}} The five warriors deliberately cultivated a terrifying reputation with their sheer brutality.  {{storylink|Maximum Dinobots issue 1|Maximum Dinobots issue 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Eons later, the Dynobots followed [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] to prehistoric Earth on a revenge-fueled crusade, &#039;&#039;after&#039;&#039; Optimus had told them to get over it already. The planet&#039;s energon fields forced them to take on the forms of the local animal life.  Thus protected, they attacked Shockwave on the surface. Sadly, it did not protect the Dynobots from Shockwave&#039;s energy blasts, which melted the artificial skin and caused the Dynobots to go into [[stasis lock]] due to excessive [[energon radiation]]. Due to a deadman&#039;s switch, The Dynobots&#039; ship (the &#039;&#039;[[Skyfire (ship)|Skyfire]]&#039;&#039;) blasted a volcano that buried everyone in molten lava.  They were later unearthed by a human archaeological dig  {{storylink|Spotlight: Shockwave|Spotlight: Shockwave}} which was taken over by [[Skywatch|government agents]].  {{storylink|Escalation issue 5|Escalation issue 5}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Though Grimlock was the first to be brought back online, he was freed from Skywatch&#039;s control through a virus implanted by a [[Machination]] spy (under orders from [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]). Scorponok wanted Grimlock to join him, but Grimlock refused, fought Scorponok and escaped, vowing to find and rescue the other Dynobots.  Scorponok, however, planned to take control of the Dynobots himself and use them to assassinate Grimlock.  {{storylink|Spotlight: Grimlock|Spotlight: Grimlock}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Reactivated by Skywatch, the Dynobots were put through their paces, seemingly to great success (secretly because the Machination had &amp;quot;helped&amp;quot; set up Skywatch&#039;s neural nets). When Grimlock appeared in Fallon, the town was cordoned off and the &amp;quot;Thunder Lizards&amp;quot; were sent to engage him.  {{storylink|Maximum Dinobots issue 1|Maximum Dinobots issue 1}} The resulting clash caused &#039;&#039;massive&#039;&#039; damage to Fallon, helped along by Scorponok causing the neural nets to fluctuate so he could increase the conflict between the Dynobots. &lt;br /&gt;
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Eventually they were allowed to have their sentience so they could find out Grimlock had set up the deadman&#039;s switch, which left them buried on Earth, &#039;&#039;without telling them&#039;&#039;. While feeling some guilt for what he did, Grimlock defended his actions by saying &amp;quot;er, hello, we&#039;re vicious amoral rule-breakers, of course I did it&amp;quot;. Which &#039;&#039;worked&#039;&#039;.  {{storylink|Maximum Dinobots issue 2|Maximum Dinobots issue 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Toys ==&lt;br /&gt;
===Generation 1===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:G1Slag toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Slag]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:G1Sludge toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Sludge]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Dinobots&#039;&#039;&#039; (1985)&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Slag (G1)|Slag]]&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]]&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]]&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] &lt;br /&gt;
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:The five Dinobots were sold individually in boxed packages from 1985 to 1986.  They featured a uniform color scheme of red for their die-cast metal parts, black plastic for legs and forearms, smoky translucent for [[Pre-Transformers|remnant cockpits]], and golden metalized plastic highlights depicting machine details.  Most had fairly good articulation for G1 toys; only Slag had the conjoined foot-base common to many of the automobile-based Transformers in G1.  &lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;&#039;Pretender Classics&#039;&#039;&#039; (1989)&lt;br /&gt;
** Grimlock&lt;br /&gt;
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:A much smaller and simpler version of Grimlock, with a [[Pretender]] shell, was part of the [[Pretender Classics]] line.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:G1 ActionMaster Snarl toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Action Master Snarl]]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Action Masters&#039;&#039;&#039; (1990)&lt;br /&gt;
** Grimlock&lt;br /&gt;
** Snarl&lt;br /&gt;
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:Both Grimlock and Snarl were given new toy forms as part of the [[Action Master|Action Masters]] line.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Generation 2===&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Dinobots&#039;&#039;&#039; (1993)&lt;br /&gt;
** Grimlock&lt;br /&gt;
** Slag&lt;br /&gt;
** Snarl&lt;br /&gt;
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:Three of the original five Dinobot molds were reissued in new colors.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Beast Wars===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BeastWarsgrimlock toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Beast Wars Grimlock]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Grimlock (Deluxe, 1997)&lt;br /&gt;
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:A redeco of [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Alternators===&lt;br /&gt;
* Grimlock (2005)&lt;br /&gt;
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:He turns into a 1/24th scale car.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Classics===&lt;br /&gt;
* Swoop (Mini-Con Dinobots Team, 2006)&lt;br /&gt;
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:A new mold for the original character, alongside two new-character teammates.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Grimlock (Deluxe, 2006)&lt;br /&gt;
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:A new mold based on his original design, with an updated dinosaur mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Masterpiece===&lt;br /&gt;
* Grimlock (2009)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Other===&lt;br /&gt;
* The 2003 [[Dinobots (toyline)|Dinobots]] subline, a Wal-Mart exclusive, reuses most of the G1 Dinobots&#039; names. In the absence of any [[Bio|bios]] or fiction, however, it is unclear if they are meant to represent the same characters.&lt;br /&gt;
* The 2005 [[Grimlock (Energon)|Grimlock]] &amp;amp;amp; [[Swoop (Energon)|Swoop]] two-pack was originally intended to portray the G1 characters, but ended up as part of the &#039;&#039;[[Energon (toyline)|Energon]]&#039;&#039; toyline instead, representing new characters.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Items of Note==&lt;br /&gt;
* The Dinobots are the first Transformers whose creation is shown in the cartoon. It seems simple enough: The Autobots simply construct their bodies, flick the switch, and they&#039;re animate. Wheeljack later upgrades their brains, after which they display sentience. However, the later episode &amp;quot;[[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1]]&amp;quot; heavily implies that there&#039;s no way to bring a Transformer to life without the use of the supercomputer Vector Sigma.  Still other episodes would show the creation of Trypticon and the Technobots without the use of Vector Sigma. For more on this issue, see the separate article &#039;&#039;[[Reproduction]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Autobot subgroups]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Combiner teams]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Generation 1]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 2]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Casey Kasem</title>
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Casey Kasem&#039;&#039;&#039; (born &#039;&#039;&#039;Kemal Amin Kasem&#039;&#039;&#039; on April 27, 1932) is an American voice actor. Among other roles, he has been known as Shaggy from &#039;&#039;Scooby Doo&#039;&#039;, Robin from &#039;&#039;Superfriends&#039;&#039; and Alexander from &#039;&#039;Josie and the Pussycats&#039;&#039;. He also had some kind of radio show or something.  Chances are you&#039;ve heard of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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He really hates it when people dedicate songs to their dead pets. He also hates [[Abdul Fakkadi|offensive stereotypes]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Generation 1==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bluestreak]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Doctor Arkeville|Dr. Arkeville]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
*Mr. Kasem left the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|original Transformers cartoon]] during production of the third season episode &amp;quot;[[Thief in the Night]]&amp;quot; because of its depiction of the highly stereotypical [[Abdul Fakkadi]] as dictator of made-up Arab state [[Carbombya]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ameu.org/page.asp?iid=108&amp;amp;amp;aid=152&amp;amp;amp;pg=6 Casey Kasem on Arab Defamation in the Media]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Kasem&#039;s family is Lebanese [[wikipedia:Druze|Druze]], which is not quite Arab, but &#039;&#039;zoinks&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.vegetus.org/vegtoon/cc.htm In deference to Mr. Kasem], [[Doctor Arkeville|Dr. Arkeville]] should be assumed to be a vegetarian. I don&#039;t think we have to worry about the [[Autobot]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Footnotes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0440487/ Casey Kasem at the Internet Movie Database]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{DEFAULTSORT:Kasem, Casey}}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=NEST&amp;diff=328554</id>
		<title>NEST</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;122.107.178.246: /* Humans */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;NEST is a military organization in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film series]] [[Continuity family|continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:NEST insignia.png|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the disbanding of [[Sector Seven]], &#039;&#039;&#039;NEST&#039;&#039;&#039; was set up under [[William Lennox]] to create a combined [[United States military|United States Military]]/[[Autobot]] defense force against [[Decepticon|Decepticons]]. Though originally an [[United States of America|American]]-Autobot military alliance, it soon expanded to include armed forces from the [[United Kingdom]] and other nations.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===IDW &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movie comics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Alliance3_NEST_rollout.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Hey, that&#039;s my line!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Approximately one month after the events in [[Mission City]], Sector Seven inadvertently reactivated the [[Decepticon]] [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]] and simultaneously attracted the attention of [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], and the subsequent battle leveled Sector Seven&#039;s [[Nevada]] bunker, costing dozens of lives. [[John Keller|Secretary of Defense Keller]] immediately terminated the clandestine group&#039;s operations upon learning of the incident.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the aftermath, Captain Lennox tried to convince his dubious and hostile superiors at the [[Pentagon]] that the Autobots were indeed trustworthy and would be a valuable asset. His superiors impressed upon him that in order for the military to provide full disclosure, the Autobots must cooperate fully, and that the unit was Lennox&#039;s responsibility now. After the burial-at-sea of [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]], [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and Lennox agreed that for the protection of their mutual homeworld, they must trust each other and work together as a single team. Sometime later, the newly formed NEST command commenced training at the military base on [[Diego Garcia]]. {{storylink|Alliance issue 3|Alliance #3}} &lt;br /&gt;
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NEST had a baptism of fire against the [[Decepticon]] scouts [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]] and [[Jolt (Movie)|Dead End]] in [[San Francisco]]: the mission was successful although Lennox was criticized for allowing the Autobots to transform on the Golden Gate Bridge. NEST expanded to a multinational force and began taking on Decepticon agents across [[Earth]]: [[Fracture]] and [[Overcast (Movie)|Overcast]] were destroyed in Europe, while [[Dropkick]] and [[Incinerator (Movie)|Incinerator]] were defeated in [[Florida]]. NEST&#039;s victories were tempered with the ultimate sacrifice, such as when [[Salani]] died battling [[Jetstorm (Movie)|Jetstorm]]. When [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] redeployed back to the &#039;States as [[Sam Witwicky]]&#039;s guardian, NEST received a much-needed boost in Transformers ranks when [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]], [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]], [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] came to Earth. This joy was short-lived, however: the Decepticon [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]] had been sighted in [[Shanghai]], [[China]]. {{storylink|Alliance issue 4|Alliance #4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;The Veiled Threat&#039;&#039; prequel novel===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Note|The events of &#039;&#039;The Veiled Threat&#039;&#039; take place during [[IDW Publishing]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[Alliance (comic)|Alliance]]&#039;&#039; comic. Yes, Swindle and Deadend are alive.}}&lt;br /&gt;
As [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] was spotted in [[Zambia]], gaining control over local rebel groups by using his internal synthesizers to create [[gold]] coins, NEST was deployed to the Zambezi River to battle [[Dropkick]], [[Macerator]], and [[Payload (Movie)|Payload]]. [[Beachbreak]] was killed by Starscream while helping Optimus Prime not fall to his death at Victoria Falls. Starscream&#039;s Decepticons attempted to destroy a series of dams, but Prime killed Macerator, while Payload was drowned when the humans entered the dam and opened the flood gates.&lt;br /&gt;
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Epps, Russian scientist [[Petr Andronov]], [[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]] and [[Knock Out (ROTF)|Knockout]] went to [[Peru]], while Lennox, [[Kaminari Ishihara]], Prime, Ironhide, and [[Salvage (Movie)|Salvage]] arrived in the Western [[Australia]]n Outback. Epps&#039; team fought off [[Ruination (ROTF)|Ruination]] and [[Blademaster]], while Lennox&#039;s group encountered [[Kickback (ROTF)|Kickback]], [[Tread]] and [[Trample]]. Before dying, Kickback revealed he was part of a Decepticon faction not under Starscream&#039;s command, which were trying to gather enough energy to revive Megatron. &lt;br /&gt;
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At Diego Garcia, [[crab spy|a small crab]] Decepticon infiltrated the base and hacked into the NEST computers before sneaking back into the sea. Despite the break-in, the NEST team continues their usual business, hunting [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]] and [[Jolt (Movie)|Deadend]] in [[Italy|Rome]]. Unexpectedly, Starscream challenged Prime to single combat inside the Coliseum. There, Prime fell through a trap door to a subway tunnel extension and into a strong set of restraints arranged by Italian criminal [[Bruno Carrera]] - who was promised rule of Europe once Starscream conquered Earth - where he was attacked by [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]. The humans rescued Prime though, and Barricade and Starscream fled. {{storylink|The Veiled Threat}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; movie===&lt;br /&gt;
{{spoilers}}&lt;br /&gt;
NEST arrived in Shanghai, where Sideswipe took out [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] and Optimus defeated Demolishor. Returning to their US base, Lennox and Optimus met [[Theodore Galloway]], who was appointed their new Director by the [[President of the United States]], and held a video conference with General [[Morshower]]. Galloway noted President [[Barack Obama|Obama]]&#039;s horror at the destruction during the Shanghai battle, and voiced his opinion that the Decepticons only remained because the Autobots did. Optimus said he respected the humans if they wished them to leave, but also requested Galloway answer what if they left, and the Decepticons kept coming. &lt;br /&gt;
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Little did they know, [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] was listening in on their conversation, overhearing details such as [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]&#039;s location in the [[Laurentian Abyss]], and the last [[All Spark]] fragment in storage at Diego Garcia. [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] was deployed to steal the fragment, which [[Scalpel]] used to revive their leader. The reborn Megatron went after [[Sam Witwicky]], and Optimus died protecting him. Following Optimus&#039; death, the Decepticons arrived in greater numbers during bolder attacks under the leadership of Megatron&#039;s master, [[The Fallen]], and Galloway ordered the termination of NEST and that the Autobots retreat to Diego Garcia.&lt;br /&gt;
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But [[Seymour Simmons]] contacted Lennox, revealing he had travelled to [[Egypt]] with Sam to unravel the Decepticons&#039; plot. During their flight to Diego Garcia, Lennox had the pilots fake landing trouble so Galloway would parachute off the plane, so they could land outside the [[pyramid]]s instead. Soundwave blocked off NEST&#039;s radio signals to the [[United States military]], but Simmons was able to use a radio from a [[Jordan]]ian helicopter to request backup from the nearby [[United States Navy]]. NEST held off the Decepticons until Sam arrived with the [[Matrix of Leadership]], which he used to resurrect Optimus, and the Autobot leader subsequently defeated The Fallen. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Known members==&lt;br /&gt;
===Humans===&lt;br /&gt;
*Technical/Master Sergeant [[Robert Epps]] ([[United States Air Force]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Captain/Major [[William Lennox]] ([[United States Army|United States Army Rangers]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Burke]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Salani]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kaminari Ishihara]] — Cyberneticist&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Petr Andronov]] — &amp;quot;AI genius&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[General Marks]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Graham]]&lt;br /&gt;
*All those who complete the NEST missions {{storylink|LGNEST.com}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Autobots===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Salvage (Movie)|Salvage]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Beachbreak]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Knock Out (ROTF)|Knock Out]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mudflap (ROTF) |Mudflap]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Skids (ROTF) |Skids]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jolt (ROTF) |Jolt]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Breakaway (ROTF)|Breakaway]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dune Runner (ROTF)|Dune Runner]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
*What NEST stands for is not mentioned on screen. Depending on who you ask, it means:&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;&#039;Networked Elements: Supporters and Transformers&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;{{storylink|The Veiled Threat}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;&#039;Nonbiological Extraterrestrial Species Treaty&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;{{storylink|The Last Prime}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;&#039;Nonbiological Extraterrestrial Species Team&#039;&#039;&#039; [http://www.lgnest.com/ LG promotional tie-in website]&lt;br /&gt;
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* NEST troopers appeared on Cover B of the &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; prequel comic &amp;quot;[[Alliance issue 2|Alliance #2]]&amp;quot; , but were nowhere to be seen in the story inside. This is because most of the covers illustrated by &#039;&#039;Revenge&#039;&#039; concept artist [[Josh Nizzi]] were meant to allude to scenes or situations in the actual &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; movie itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The native population of [[Diego Garcia]] were [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depopulation_of_Diego_Garcia &#039;&#039;expelled&#039;&#039;] from the island to make way for the joint [[United Kingdom]]/United States military bases. The Autobots are led by Optimus Prime, who believes freedom is the right of all sentient beings. Err...&lt;br /&gt;
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* There is a real US Government agency known as NEST.  [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Emergency_Support_Team The Nuclear Emergency Support Team].  Of course, it could just be a cover for joint operations with alien robots...&lt;br /&gt;
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* The &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; toyline&#039;s [[pricepoint|Voyager class]] Ironhide toy features a different NEST symbol on his alt-mode doors; a white Autobot symbol wearing a red beret set within a United Nations-styled logo, with &#039;special program&#039; written underneath. Meanwhile, Scout class [[Dune Runner (ROTF)|Dune Runner]] features a NEST symbol with the Autobot sigil and the SAS&#039;s downward pointing broadsword replacing the cow&#039;s skull.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Footnotes==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{DEFAULTSORT:Nest}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Human organizations]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:NEST| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Where&#039;s Chromia? She is confirmed! I added her why is she gone? And what about Ratchet? {{unsigned|Godziboy1993}}&lt;br /&gt;
:They haven&#039;t been &amp;quot;confirmed&amp;quot;. They got stolen from factories in China. That is not an official confirmation. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:58, 27 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, this is ridiculous. Yes it IS AN OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION. She was even in the god damn trailer! And why isn&#039;t Ratchet and Longhaul up on that either? Stolen from factories give me  a break. Put them back on. [[User:Godziboy1993|Godziboy1993]] 21:55, 27 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh and Barricade is on there too. His toy was stolen from a factory. Why the hell not Chromia, Ratchet, and Longhaul.&lt;br /&gt;
:Because it is &#039;&#039;&#039;illegally acquired information&#039;&#039;&#039;. That simple. We&#039;ll add them once Roberto Orci confirms their presence, or Hasbro releases &#039;&#039;official photographs&#039;&#039; of the toys. To find out more, refer to [[Help:Official info]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:10, 27 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Paramount pictures cast list. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://l.yimg.com/img.omg.yahoo.com/omg/us/img/83/a2/9019_3705651155.jpg?y=660&amp;amp;x=616&amp;amp;q=75&amp;amp;n=0&amp;amp;sig=Zvqw8NxIBWHyJFhaLEhOeQ-- This poster] looks like a pretty official cast list. FFN, you think it&#039;s dubious? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 06:50, 2 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, for a Starter, Overload should be added to the list of constructicons. {{unsigned|GUIGUI|17:20, 2 April 2009 EDT}}&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree, they didn&#039;t pull that name out of the æther. But it might be premature to spell it &amp;quot;Longhaul&amp;quot;, or move The Fallen to the Decepticon column, or move Jetfire to the Autobot column. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:31, 2 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I really do not understand how this is set up. Why is Demolisher a seperate character? Who is the 7th constructicon when only six are shown combining into Devastator?{{unsigned|Godziboy1993|19:36, 6 April 2009 EDT}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Who knows? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:40, 6 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Japanese world premiere. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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With the premiere in Japan, does that mean ROTF characters are &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Category:Japanese-original characters]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:50, 27 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;d better be joking. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:12, 27 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transmitter at official site==&lt;br /&gt;
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What was the necessary stuff to log in again for the Transmitter? I can&#039;t remember if it was Derik or Detour that had posted up some things for it... Not that it&#039;s updated much. &amp;lt;&amp;lt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:45, 1 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==How about an actual article?==&lt;br /&gt;
This thing is basically a list of info. Why isn&#039;t this a bit more organized, like on Wikipedia?  And is the stuff about the Writers&#039; Strike really neccesary?  I&#039;d edit it, but I do not appear to have that privilege. [[User:Jim Java|Jim Java]] 16:56, 8 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes it&#039;s a list of info, because right now all we have is info. It&#039;s better than Wikipedia&#039;s page because it focuses on confirmed news only and not rumors, stolen toys and third-hand reports. Yes, the stuff about the Writer&#039;s Strike is necessary, since it did affect production of Revenge Of The Fallen. No, you can&#039;t edit it, because the page is protected on account of so many anonymous users and new users making additions based on rumors, stolen toys and third-hand reports. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:28, 8 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In about a month and a half, this article will get a total top-to-bottom re-write, when... y&#039;know... we see the movie.  Till then, there&#039;s not a lot of point in dramatic changes; they&#039;d just be swept away under the deluge of information that we&#039;ll have when the film is released.&lt;br /&gt;
:That said, I feel your pain.  &amp;quot;Writer such-and-such has envisioned a storyline involving the Constructicons&amp;quot; seems like a ridiculous bit of information to have right upfront at this point in the game, when we&#039;ve &#039;&#039;seen them in the trailer&#039;&#039;. &#039;&#039;&#039;ETA:&#039;&#039;&#039; If you&#039;d seriously like to have a go at cleaning it up, you could always set up a temp page somewhere.  -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:33, 8 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::At the same time, I don&#039;t really see the point of doing a page like the Wikipedia. We&#039;ll never be able to compete with them in terms of sheer information on things like production, and were are restricted by our rule of only using information that has been released by Hasbro/Takara, Dreamworks, Paramount and their partners (and they generally don&#039;t release much in the way of information). Besides, as I&#039;ve understood this wiki, our focus is on the &#039;&#039;content of the fiction itself&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;the characters&#039;&#039; starring in it, which is what differentiates us from the Wikipedia. We&#039;re not really here to tell people about how the director of photography and camera personnel filmed the 2007 movie on a mechanical bull or something. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:06, 8 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Could we at least organize this in paragraph form?  It wouldn&#039;t take very long, but it would look way better. Just thought I&#039;d ask. [[User:Jim Java|Jim Java]] 20:50, 11 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think that would make the article better at all.  The article as-is is a list of things.  Making that list into a big block of text is not going to help anything.  We don&#039;t need to pretend that this article isn&#039;t a list.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:18, 11 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m gonna throw my hat in here and tell you to just wait.  It&#039;s like Repowers said, give just over a month and the entire article will be totally redone top to bottom, just like you want Jim Java.  Until then look at the Wikipedia article, I&#039;m pretty sure they have it broken into paragraphs and make it an &amp;quot;actual article&amp;quot; as I&#039;m sure you&#039;re insinuating.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:22, 11 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==UK Release 19th June = World Premiere==&lt;br /&gt;
As I write this the UK will be getting this a whole week before the States. So like, can we come and get started on the articles, or will there be Dubya-like emphasis on US civil (=Spoiler) liberties? [[Special:Contributions/82.7.126.27|82.7.126.27]] 12:58, 18 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I figure it&#039;ll be okay if articles are filled out following the UK release.  After all, most of Animated Season 2 aired a week early in Canada, and we still updated those pages even though they hadn&#039;t aired stateside yet. As long as media is officially released in a language we can understand (unlike that whole Dubai incident last year), it&#039;s fair game. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 01:40, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== World premiere was today, June 8, in Japan ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As the title says. Do we need a new, updated &amp;quot;No spoilers&amp;quot; disclaimer in this article and maybe also on the main page?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 16:35, 8 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes and yes and then some.  We should have heavy disclaimage on ALL the in-movie character pages, and also make them--as well as, obviously, this page itself--off-limits to anonymous editors.  (Also, holy shit, am I actually editing on IE now?  Miracle!)  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 16:47, 8 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Score==&lt;br /&gt;
Should the score&#039;s info be added? Samples are up at [http://www.amazon.de/Transformers-Revenge-Fallen-Score/dp/B002DDIXLA/ref=sr_shvl_album_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1245109298&amp;amp;sr=301-2 Amazon Germany&#039;s listing]. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 20:04, 15 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bay wanted to have German soldiers in the movie, German government said &amp;quot;no&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Source: [http://newsticker.sueddeutsche.de/list/id/657558 Press conference from German premiere]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Bundeswehr soldiers in the cinematic end fight between humans and alien machines: That&#039;s how Hollywood warhorse director Michael Bay (&amp;quot;Armageddon&amp;quot;) had planned it for his action flick &#039;&#039;Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;But German authorities threw a monkey wrench in his plans. The Bundeswehr soldiers at an Air Force base in the American desert state of New Mexico had been thrilled, &amp;quot;but unfortunately, the German government said no&amp;quot;, the 44 year old director said at Sunday&#039;s German premiere of the science fiction flick. The cooperation with the US Department of Defense, on the other hand, hadn&#039;t been a problem - he had a direct connection there.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Will probably work it into the article once we go from pre-release to full article.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:14, 16 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What? Germany isn&#039;t allowed to -have- a military.{{unsigned|173.11.36.165|10:02, 24 June 2009}}&lt;br /&gt;
:: You shouldn&#039;t be able to state such garbage [[Special:Contributions/122.107.178.246|122.107.178.246]]&lt;br /&gt;
::You are [[wikipedia:Bundeswehr|mistaken]], sir.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 11:29, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Errors and Inconsistencies==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve just seen the film.  I&#039;m not sure how the final ROTF page will look, but if the previous movie is used as a template, then I can suggest NOW that the Errors/Inconsistencies section be spawned off onto its own page? [[User:Drmick|Drmick]] 19:52, 20 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Basic outline here: [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)/outline]].  Not sure when we should drop it in, but it should be soon. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:13, 20 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unnamed Decepticons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we have any way of getting names for the unnamed decepticons, like the Ravage hairballs seen in the trailer and comic-books? The movie&#039;s not going to help, as it was &#039;&#039;incredibly&#039;&#039; lax on providing names for characters.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 03:31, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mysterious voice credits ==&lt;br /&gt;
Frank Welker is credited as &amp;quot;Reedman&amp;quot; along with Soundwave and Ravage, and Kevin Michael Richardson is both one of the Primes and &amp;quot;Skipjack&amp;quot;. Do we know who these characters are? It doesn&#039;t help that both actors are known for Random Monster Noises roles. -[[User:LV|LV]] 03:53, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Edit: I may mean Soundwave, Devastator and Reedman. The point is, Reedman: WTF? -[[User:LV|LV]] 04:06, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I too saw those credits and wondered... but, I could also swear that I remember someone, maybe Ironhide, saying the name &amp;quot;Skipjack&amp;quot; aloud at one point in the film (at one of the base scenes, maybe?). For the life of me, though, I can&#039;t think of the context it was in. --&lt;br /&gt;
:::Did we happen to catch credits for Demolishor, Rampage, or any other growly-roary-types? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:24, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Devastator clearly said &amp;quot;DEVASTATOR!&amp;quot; during the big overhead shot of him slowly bearing down on the twins. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:37, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I definitely interpreted that as Megatron shouting &amp;quot;DEVASTATOR!&amp;quot; at Devastator for no particular reason. As for Demolishor...he must have had a voice actor, since he had actual dialogue, but I don&#039;t recall seeing it. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:15, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Yeah, I couldn&#039;t decide if the roar of &amp;quot;DEVASTATOR!&amp;quot; was Megatron, or if Devastator had decided to declare his own name for some reason (which wouldn&#039;t be &#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039; odd, given that Megatron did it in the first movie). - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:40, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::It sure sounded like Megatron&#039;s voice to me. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:16, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I&#039;m also with that Megatron&#039;s the one calling to Devastator. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 01:45, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Surely he was calling to get Devastator to stop playing with the humans and come wreck up the pyramid? [[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 10:50, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::In the IMAX it was clearly Megatron based on where the sound was coming from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:49, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Demolisher is in the credits as Wheelbot. But I kept missing it. First time, some dickhead at the back started sticking his hands in front of the projector and blocking it. As for Devastator, he NEVER speaks. Megs yells Devastator&#039;s name. Welker just handled roars and snarls (some blatant Welker animal noises are in there)[[User:Eire]] 15.57 25th June 09&lt;br /&gt;
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:Reedman &#039;&#039;has&#039;&#039; to be the raptor-like thing formed by the [[microcon|ball bearing bot]]s.  He&#039;s a reed-thin man.&lt;br /&gt;
:Sweet, nice to know he has a name. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:41, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This seems to be corroborated by the Decepticons DS game (not the best source, given the divergence of video game plots, but an official one): before the mission to steal the All Spark shard you&#039;re told that &amp;quot;Ravage and Reed Man&amp;quot; have been sent ahead to secure the target... presumably referencing the skinny con&#039;s theft of the object in question. --[[User:Inevitable Betrayal|Inevitable Betrayal]] 17:44, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Any chance you can get an exact quote on that?  (Because it seems to present Reedman has his own character, rather than a remote probe controlled by Ravage, and I&#039;d like to be able to cite it.)  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:56, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;m afraid not. The dialogue popped up on the map screen between missions instead of within the mission itself, so it&#039;s not replayable, and I was surprised enough by it the first time I didn&#039;t think to write it down. I could start another file and play through to that point again (though I&#039;d rather not, it&#039;s a bit of a letdown compared to the first movie&#039;s DS games), but at the moment all I can say for sure is that it referred to them as a duo, &amp;quot;Ravage and Reed Man,&amp;quot; with Reed Man parsed as two words like that, not one.--[[User:Inevitable Betrayal|Inevitable Betrayal]] 02:35, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well jeez! Sounded like a people-name! I wonder who &amp;quot;Skipjack&amp;quot; is, then? He... he couldn&#039;t be the little guy who gets killed for parts, could be? That guy didn&#039;t speak words, but he did make a sort of cry/yelp of protest as he was set upon. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:46, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That was one of the film&#039;s legions of Constructicons.  Probably not a &amp;quot;Skyjack.&amp;quot; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:54, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::&#039;&#039;Skip&#039;&#039;jack. But, eh, i&#039;m just tossin&#039; it out there. The identity of the sacrificial guy does not really seem to be confirmed - people are just assuming he&#039;s a Constructicon because the other three were Long Haul, Mixmaster and Rampage, and Hightower&#039;s vehicle was on the barge, but no-one&#039;s actually identified the guy based on his physical robot appearance (and as a dirty great crane, Hightower would hardly be &amp;quot;the little one&amp;quot;). - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:58, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I paid attention to the &amp;quot;little one&amp;quot;&#039;s silhouette when I saw the movie again yesterday, and it most resembled Scrapper.  Particularly its skinny legs.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:16, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Let&#039;s see, that was about 40 minutes in so... &#039;&#039;*runs up MP3 of the movie&#039;s audio*&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
::::No, the &#039;parts&#039; con doesn&#039;t make more than a few Ewok burbles.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Could he be the jackhammer-Decepticon that kidnapped Ron and Judy? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:14, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::As it transpires, yes. [http://www.aciphex.com/ This interview] (search for &amp;quot;Skipjack&amp;quot;) makes it pretty clear that Skipjack was the working name for the red bulldozer identified onscreen as Rampage. So it&#039;s a Demolishor/Wheelbot situation, apparently. Disappointing resolution, especially since it still leaves us with two bulldozers named Rampage. -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:47, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I.... theeeenk you may have got your link wrong, there? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:10, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::[https://www.editorsguild.com/FromtheGuild.cfm?FromTheGuildid=84 He probably meant this one.] -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:22, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::THe sad thing is that I can&#039;t even come up with a funny rationale for the link to AcipHex here. (I was originally linking it elsewhere because the TV won&#039;t stop telling me to try Ass Effects - guess it stayed in my clipboard.) FAiled. -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:25, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::No, Starscream specifically calls him Rampage.  (And he is Rampage.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:16, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Wasn&#039;t Devastator already formed by that point?  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:19, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Sure, but there were lots of Constructicons running around the same time as Devastator was formed (the group from the barge turn up with Ravage partway through the fight). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:31, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::It just sounds like a likely name for his color-swap.  (Which in this case, i guess... was forming Devastator.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:16, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::&#039;&#039;but no-one&#039;s actually identified the guy based on his physical robot appearance&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:::[http://deriksmith.livejournal.com/41048.html Some douchebag] posted bootleg screencaps of the Laurentian Abyss sequence on his blog.&lt;br /&gt;
:::While not appropriate for inclusion here as a &#039;&#039;primary source&#039;&#039;, useful for IDing nonetheless.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:24, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I should probably post what I did on LJ here.  Re: the last photo - those claws don&#039;t look anything alike.  That&#039;s no game-only generic.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:53, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::And &#039;&#039;I&#039;&#039; should probably post what I did on LJ here.  The game-model and movie-model for Constructicon Scout are different (thus the clamps not matching) but Constructicon Scout is &#039;&#039;definitely&#039;&#039; in the movie.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:13, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::As Walky so bluntly put it-- &amp;quot;It&#039;s scrapper.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Or rather- the Constructicon Scout is based on Scrapper.  An extra layer of confusion is added because the Scrapper toy lacks the giant arms that the CS has-- &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; [http://i44.tinypic.com/1zzji3l.gif the character in the movie has].  But since there&#039;s only one Scraper toy that Transformes, apparently we&#039;re treating his truncated arms as a concession to toy engineering.&lt;br /&gt;
:::So would it be &#039;&#039;more accurate&#039;&#039; to say that Scrapper &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; a Constructicon Scout?  Or is physically identical to them? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:06, 27 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t know if this helps, but in the somewhat inaccurate comic version of the movie, Ravage, Long Haul, and Scrapper are clearly seen jumping off the boat, so it may mean Scrapper is &amp;quot;the little one?[[Special:Contributions/71.199.127.210|71.199.127.210]] 13:37, 28 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==It&#039;s UpGrade Time==&lt;br /&gt;
So, can we start working on this now or what? [[User:Eire]] 12.44 June 24 09&lt;br /&gt;
: Yes.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:36, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Foreign titles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Are foreign titles usually included if they just mean &amp;quot;Revenge of The Fallen&amp;quot; in their own language? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:37, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: They shouldn&#039;t be.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:45, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The frensh versin is called &amp;quot;transformers: the revenge&amp;quot;(le révange?)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 11:47, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: That&#039;s different enough.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:48, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: The Brazilian title (Portuguese) renders as &amp;quot;The Revenge of the Defeated&amp;quot; when I put it through Google Translate.  Is that different enough?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 12:35, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Inasmuch as &amp;quot;defeated&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t have the same additional connotations of &amp;quot;falling from grace&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;killed in battle&amp;quot; as the original English, I&#039;d say so.[[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 10:47, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Trivia cull ==&lt;br /&gt;
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One is long overdue in my opinion. Much of this &amp;quot;trivia&amp;quot; is snippets of news on who was cast, and has since been unequivocally confirmed and properly organized in the locations it &#039;&#039;should&#039;&#039; be.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 21:33, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Not-Bonecrusher ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m assuming that the guy who wasn&#039;t Bonecrusher was actually [[Constructicon Scout]].  Is that a safe guess to go with?  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:46, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I didn&#039;t see any Bonecrusher in the film.  People just say they saw Bonecrusher&#039;s altmode, the Buffalo.  No robot mode, far as I&#039;m aware.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:48, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I think he was running around during the Egypt battle. You could see him standing behind some pillars. Since there were multiple Constructicons running around, this was evidently was not the very-dead Bonecrusher.[[Special:Contributions/67.242.198.238|67.242.198.238]] 12:07, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It was definitely a use of the CGI Bonecrusher model in robot mode. [[Special:Contributions/82.7.126.27|82.7.126.27]] 12:09, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*swears*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;  I was hoping it was the Constructicon Scout, but he has a different robot mode.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:14, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You can definitely see Bonecrusher&#039;s vehicle mode rolling in with the other Decepticons. I don&#039;t recall seeing his robot mode, but then again, he looks quite similar in robot mode to a bunch of Constructicons. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 12:42, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
So I saw it again in IMAX.  That&#039;s definitely Bonecrusher rolling in.&lt;br /&gt;
# His remains weren&#039;t among those being disposed of after the first movie.&lt;br /&gt;
# We&#039;ve got a toy bio stating he survived.&lt;br /&gt;
# He&#039;s &#039;&#039;in&#039;&#039; the ^&amp;amp;*( second film.&lt;br /&gt;
Baring Hasbro releasing a redeco and declaring this a new character, it looks like Bonecrusher really &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; survive.  And until that happens, I&#039;m going with the face-value reading and removing the &amp;quot;a Bonecrusher lookalike&amp;quot; note in the cast list.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:01, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Good points! I agree. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 00:05, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I disagree. I think &amp;quot;a toy bio stating he survived&amp;quot; is completely irrelevant, as we got one of those for Jazz, too. That was definitely Bonecrusher&#039;s vehicle mode in ROTF, but I sure as hell don&#039;t think it was actually Bonecrusher, any more than I think that the helicopter was Blackout. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 00:23, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That is your personal canon. The fiction says otherwise. The toy bio is completely irrelevant iff it contradicts the movies. This time the movies back it up. It is willful blindness to say Bonecrusher isn&#039;t in the movie when he is right there. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:28, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It&#039;s willful blindness to assume similar alt means same guy, in a movie where a guy with Blackout&#039;s body-type is quite prominent. G1 colourd Jazz&#039;s bio says he survives. Brawl&#039;s got a ROTF repaint. He was decapitated and had his whole head smashed in. He&#039;s dead Jim. Writing a whole section of fiction you made up on Bonecrusher&#039;s page is madness. Give the toy bio it&#039;s own section and a note that we see his vehicle mode among the protoforms and leave it at that. [[User:Eire|Eire]] 15.28 30 June 09 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m starting to see descriptions of the character&#039;s movie role around the wiki. Is this okay yet? [[User:Crow T. Robot|Crow T. Robot]] 14:32, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:So long as you use the proper spoiler tags.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 14:34, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::What about the articles that have the &amp;quot;do not add information&amp;quot; tags? Can we start to take those down? [[User:Crow T. Robot|Crow T. Robot]] 14:40, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The coming soon tags? Yeah, those were just waiting for the film release.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 14:46, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Our policy on new releases is that if the media has been officially released in a language you can understand, you are well within your rights to be write up a summary, as long as you put up a spoiler tag. Like Wikipedia, we urge people to be bold, but be smart. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 14:55, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== More Quotes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What other quotes do you want to use (i.e: &amp;quot;I RISE, YOU FALL.&amp;quot; from Optimus Prime)?&lt;br /&gt;
: I really don&#039;t think the umpteenth regurgitation of the TFTM-quote-that-will-not-die is worth singling out for praise.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 27 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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What does anyone think about the opening monologue by Prime as one of the captions? I can only remember so much, anybody got it?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:09, 6 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: “Earth. Birthplace of the human race, a species much like our own. Capable of great compassion... and great violence. For in our quest to protect the humans, a deeper revelation dawns; our worlds have met before.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“For the last two years, an advanced team of new Autobots has taken refuge here under my command. Together, we form an alliance with the humans, a secret but brave squad of soldiers. A classified strike team called NEST. We hunt for what remains of our Decepticon foes, hiding in different countries around the globe.” [[Special:Contributions/122.107.178.246|122.107.178.246]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Five/Six Contacts Error==&lt;br /&gt;
Wouldn&#039;t this NOT be an error, since Ravge ejected Scalpel from his chest, thereby replacing Hightower? {{unsigned|71.179.155.170|07:44, 28 June 2009}}&lt;br /&gt;
:You mean Scrapper, who was the one killed. And yeah, that&#039;s what I thought while watching the film, though I wondered if Scalpel was actually large enough to register? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:48, 28 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::HAY GUYS - Hightower and Scrapper WEREN&#039;T EVEN THERE. Four Constructicons jumped in - Red Rampage, Long Haul, Mixmaster and Small Excavator Guy. Unnamed dude was killed. Megatron, Scalpel and Ravage make six contacts surfacing.&lt;br /&gt;
::: Ahem, from Scalpel&#039;s page &amp;quot;...Using parts &amp;quot;donated&amp;quot; by Hightower...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
::: Anywho, the point is, wouldn&#039;t Scalpel&#039;s presence nullify the error? {{unsigned|71.179.155.170|08:41, 28 June 2009}}&lt;br /&gt;
::::It is neither Scrapper nor Hightower. I have since edited articles and have removed the error. The unnamed is a small Volvo excavator similar to Demolishor&#039;s vehicle mode as he was incorrectly depicted in the ROTF adaptation comic. It did not look like Hightower&#039;s truss crane. Also, sign off on your comments, it is difficult to know who is saying what. See the signature button next to the crossed out W? Click that. Thanks. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:24, 28 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Adding extra confusion: The possibility that the extra reading was Blackout.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::On my second viewing, it really looks like The Doctor &#039;&#039;strikes&#039;&#039; the shard in Megatron&#039;s chest rather than permanantly inserting it.  Maybe they &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; revive Blackout.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:18, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Grindor&#039;s from space.  Megatron left the Constructicons, Ravage, and the Doctor far behind on Earth, and he traveled allll the way up to Saturn to visit the Nemesis.  And what&#039;s he find in the Nemesis?  Starscream and hatchlings.  And next we see Megatron on Earth, he&#039;s with Starscream.  And another guy.  That guy was a hatchling.  That guy was Grindor.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:20, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::He&#039;s also with The Doctor, who should be with Ravage and the Constructicons.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::I don&#039;t actually think the Helicopter &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; Blackout-- I mean he has a &#039;&#039;&#039;different altmode&#039;&#039;&#039; fergods sake.  If Bay intended it to be Blackout he&#039;d have used the same helicopter, regardless whether it&#039;d been retired or not.  And anyway- HASBRO clearly thinks that&#039;s Grindor.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::I&#039;m just trying to figure out what might&#039;ve been goign through the movie production&#039;s head with that funny number.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:08, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I imagine they filmed the blips on the radar approximately nine months before animating/rendering/writing the scene of the guys underwater.  WHOOPS. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Given that they went to the trouble of getting Welker for Soundwave and the forgot to put a vocoder over him, I could believe it.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:46, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::Though considering Welker apparently didn&#039;t like what the G1 cartoon did to his Soundwave voice, it&#039;s possible he asked Bay to not process it, and Bay was cool with that. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:23, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::Can I ask why it is stated as fact that Scalpel is too small to be detected by the submarine in the trivia section? Isn&#039;t that just speculation?[[User:Thelastallosaur|Thelastallosaur]] 15:32, 3 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::Considering that sonar and radar work the same way, the smaller the object the smaller the signature. It makes sense that Scalpel--being about a foot long and tall--wouldn&#039;t be shown on the sonar. If you look at the screen, there&#039;s one small signature going down and coming up, probably Ravage considering his size. It makes sense.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 21:26, 3 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Scalpel&#039;s about the size of a fish.  I don&#039;t know for certain, but I&#039;m pretty sure if the radar raised a contact alert every time a fish swam towards the sub, it&#039;d be pretty useless. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:56, 3 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::Ravage is the size of a jaguar, which is what? the size of a shark? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:05, 3 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::::Is he?  I don&#039;t remember any shots in the movie where his size was even established, offhand.  I thought he was pretty big though. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:18, 3 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::::Hasbro [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm battle bios] say he is &amp;quot;4 ft.&amp;quot; but I can&#039;t really tell if that means 4 feet tall or 4 feet long or what. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:25, 3 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::::Starfield, if he was four feet long, he&#039;d be pretty damn small, considering how long his tail is. We see him next to the alt modes of several transformers and we see him on Bee. He&#039;s at least as big as a tiger, probably bigger. [[User:Eire|Eire]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Well sonuvabitch, you guys got me second guessing myself. Thanks. Now I gotta go watch the movie again.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 23:53, 3 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Graham ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Whatever happened to that Agent Graham guy. Was he even in it? He is still in the credits on the official ROTF website. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:21, 29 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wasn&#039;t he that one British guy with NEST? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 15:49, 29 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, he wore a brown beret. [[Special:Contributions/79.68.235.108|79.68.235.108]] 16:01, 29 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::He&#039;s the Tom Cruise lookalike with about three lines.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 03:25, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::And he wasn&#039;t an &amp;quot;agent&amp;quot;, he was supposedly a member of the SASF, a fictionalized version of the Special Air Service. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:20, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Frenzy&#039;s head ==&lt;br /&gt;
This error keeps on getting added/deleted endlessly, some official consensus would be good. His head didn&#039;t blow up, it was sliced it half, so it&#039;s not terribly unreasonable that the two pieces were glued or welded back together. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 22:06, 29 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Images? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I happen to have a downloaded version of Revenge of The Fallen (I DID go to the movie, and I AM going to buy the dvd, so stop whining!), would you like me to make some screencaps and upload them?&lt;br /&gt;
(Particularly Reedman and Arcee miss clear images){{unsigned|ThiAthEhn|13:58, 1 July 2009}}&lt;br /&gt;
:The enthusiasm and offer of help are appreciated, but unfortunately screencaps from a pirated download would get us in deep doo-doo. Thanks for asking before uploading, though.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 14:04, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::To elaborate, we have a policy against using images or information from unofficial, leaked or stolen sources, which obviously includes screencaps from a blurry camjob of Revenge of the Fallen. The DVD will be out in 3-4 months anyway. We can wait. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:18, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::We could use screens taken from the trailers and released clips and such though right? Or realsed screencaps? [[User:Eire|Eire]] 13.41 July 02 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Absolutely.  As long as it&#039;s a thing that was officially approved and released, go nuts.  [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 08:48, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center location ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Regarding the grafting of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_F._Udvar-Hazy_Center Steven_F._Udvar-Hazy_Center] to the Boneyard: it should be noted that the UHC is in &#039;&#039;Chantilly, VA&#039;&#039;, rather outside of Washington, DC proper. There is actually more space next to the hangar, where Jetfire would have exited if they didn&#039;t have the compositing transition to the Boneyard.  However, while the area&#039;s grassy and flat, it&#039;s surrounded by small chunks of forest (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dulles_Tower_360.JPG], it looks right out over the hangar entrance he would have exited from), and is further connected to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Dulles_International_Airport Dulles Airport] in the distance. :)  I can only assume they went with the visual assumption that &amp;quot;hey, it&#039;s a museum, they&#039;d have lots of mothballed planes around, and what&#039;s there right now is boring&amp;quot;, but that&#039;s purely speculation on my part.  Either way you slice it, it&#039;s still an &amp;quot;error&amp;quot;...&lt;br /&gt;
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I just find this amusing, given that the UHC is one of the IMAX theaters where ROTF is being &#039;&#039;shown&#039;&#039;... :) [[Special:Contributions/96.231.155.47|96.231.155.47]] 22:31, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:And there&#039;s a HUGE IMAX logo &#039;&#039;in&#039;&#039; the movie...--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:41, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Caption theme==&lt;br /&gt;
Since the first film used a TF:TM theme, why not use the abandoned Star Wars theme here. [[User:Eire|Eire]] 13.41 July 02 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Specifically, &#039;&#039;Empire&#039;&#039;.  Kurtzman and Orci even said they were trying to match it in terms of upping the menace and having the Fallen be like the Emperor.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:01, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggestion - lock this article so only registered users can edit. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am sure we are all sick and tired of anonymous people coming in and making stupid, incorrect, poorly spelled edits to our a article. Let&#039;s just lock this down so that we only need to watch out for newbie editors. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:09, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Seconded. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 19:02, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The motion&#039;s seconded. Aye. Does motion carry?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 20:37, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== French title ==&lt;br /&gt;
Could you add back the fact that the French title has no &#039;&#039;2&#039;&#039; in it (at least, not in the Quebec version. You tell &#039;em, Detour), because some IP (80.236.81.91) undid my edit. Probably thought that because all other foreign titles had a 2, French was no different. Anyway I would do it myself if it wasn&#039;t for the semi-protection (which I am totally for). I know it&#039;s kind of silly to ask other people to do modifications for me, but please. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196|66.131.29.196]] 21:08, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:[http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_16816.html Êtes-vous certains?] -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:14, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::We indeed do not have a 2 in our Transformers title in Quebec. Maybe it&#039;s just France? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:35, 2 July 2009 (EDT)`&lt;br /&gt;
::Non-teaser trailer supports this: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9uUVkYB6Aw&amp;amp;fmt=18] --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:39, 2 July 2009 (EDT)	&lt;br /&gt;
:::Les Français sont toujours causé des problèmes. Peut-être qu&#039;ils pensent qu&#039;il est numérotée en métrique? Si le film a utilisé un chiffre romain ils se seraient probablement merde leur pantalon et ensuite les manger. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:48, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Please stop butchering my language. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:50, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Seconded. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 21:52, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Ce n&#039;est pas de ma faute! Il est le poisson vivant dans mon oreille! En tout cas, de véritables langues sont basés sur ECMAScript.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:01, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::&amp;quot;English, dude. English.&amp;quot; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:33, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Thanks. Oh, and Derik, please stop. It kinda hurts me as a Frenchie-Canuck to see that. Plus, you&#039;re probably using internet translation, which as you can see is quite pitiful. Nice one LoneGamer, BTW. I couldn&#039;t have said it better. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196|66.131.29.196]] 20:45, 3 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Section ordering/technical details ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking at the 2007 movie page... it&#039;s got a LOT of really boring-ass info on it.  Formatting, foreign movie board ratings, etc, etc.... all that stuff should be waaaaaaay down near the bottom, if not on an entirely separate page, considering how long the 2007 movie page is.&lt;br /&gt;
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And likewise for this one.  Why is cast before the synopsis?  Why do we need a list of foreign titles taking up the entire first screen of the page?  Etc. etc.?  -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:37, 7 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Where&#039;s Chromia? She is confirmed! I added her why is she gone? And what about Ratchet? {{unsigned|Godziboy1993}}&lt;br /&gt;
:They haven&#039;t been &amp;quot;confirmed&amp;quot;. They got stolen from factories in China. That is not an official confirmation. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:58, 27 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, this is ridiculous. Yes it IS AN OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION. She was even in the god damn trailer! And why isn&#039;t Ratchet and Longhaul up on that either? Stolen from factories give me  a break. Put them back on. [[User:Godziboy1993|Godziboy1993]] 21:55, 27 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh and Barricade is on there too. His toy was stolen from a factory. Why the hell not Chromia, Ratchet, and Longhaul.&lt;br /&gt;
:Because it is &#039;&#039;&#039;illegally acquired information&#039;&#039;&#039;. That simple. We&#039;ll add them once Roberto Orci confirms their presence, or Hasbro releases &#039;&#039;official photographs&#039;&#039; of the toys. To find out more, refer to [[Help:Official info]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:10, 27 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Paramount pictures cast list. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://l.yimg.com/img.omg.yahoo.com/omg/us/img/83/a2/9019_3705651155.jpg?y=660&amp;amp;x=616&amp;amp;q=75&amp;amp;n=0&amp;amp;sig=Zvqw8NxIBWHyJFhaLEhOeQ-- This poster] looks like a pretty official cast list. FFN, you think it&#039;s dubious? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 06:50, 2 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, for a Starter, Overload should be added to the list of constructicons. {{unsigned|GUIGUI|17:20, 2 April 2009 EDT}}&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree, they didn&#039;t pull that name out of the æther. But it might be premature to spell it &amp;quot;Longhaul&amp;quot;, or move The Fallen to the Decepticon column, or move Jetfire to the Autobot column. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:31, 2 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I really do not understand how this is set up. Why is Demolisher a seperate character? Who is the 7th constructicon when only six are shown combining into Devastator?{{unsigned|Godziboy1993|19:36, 6 April 2009 EDT}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Who knows? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:40, 6 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Japanese world premiere. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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With the premiere in Japan, does that mean ROTF characters are &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Category:Japanese-original characters]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:50, 27 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;d better be joking. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:12, 27 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transmitter at official site==&lt;br /&gt;
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What was the necessary stuff to log in again for the Transmitter? I can&#039;t remember if it was Derik or Detour that had posted up some things for it... Not that it&#039;s updated much. &amp;lt;&amp;lt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:45, 1 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==How about an actual article?==&lt;br /&gt;
This thing is basically a list of info. Why isn&#039;t this a bit more organized, like on Wikipedia?  And is the stuff about the Writers&#039; Strike really neccesary?  I&#039;d edit it, but I do not appear to have that privilege. [[User:Jim Java|Jim Java]] 16:56, 8 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes it&#039;s a list of info, because right now all we have is info. It&#039;s better than Wikipedia&#039;s page because it focuses on confirmed news only and not rumors, stolen toys and third-hand reports. Yes, the stuff about the Writer&#039;s Strike is necessary, since it did affect production of Revenge Of The Fallen. No, you can&#039;t edit it, because the page is protected on account of so many anonymous users and new users making additions based on rumors, stolen toys and third-hand reports. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:28, 8 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In about a month and a half, this article will get a total top-to-bottom re-write, when... y&#039;know... we see the movie.  Till then, there&#039;s not a lot of point in dramatic changes; they&#039;d just be swept away under the deluge of information that we&#039;ll have when the film is released.&lt;br /&gt;
:That said, I feel your pain.  &amp;quot;Writer such-and-such has envisioned a storyline involving the Constructicons&amp;quot; seems like a ridiculous bit of information to have right upfront at this point in the game, when we&#039;ve &#039;&#039;seen them in the trailer&#039;&#039;. &#039;&#039;&#039;ETA:&#039;&#039;&#039; If you&#039;d seriously like to have a go at cleaning it up, you could always set up a temp page somewhere.  -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:33, 8 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::At the same time, I don&#039;t really see the point of doing a page like the Wikipedia. We&#039;ll never be able to compete with them in terms of sheer information on things like production, and were are restricted by our rule of only using information that has been released by Hasbro/Takara, Dreamworks, Paramount and their partners (and they generally don&#039;t release much in the way of information). Besides, as I&#039;ve understood this wiki, our focus is on the &#039;&#039;content of the fiction itself&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;the characters&#039;&#039; starring in it, which is what differentiates us from the Wikipedia. We&#039;re not really here to tell people about how the director of photography and camera personnel filmed the 2007 movie on a mechanical bull or something. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:06, 8 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Could we at least organize this in paragraph form?  It wouldn&#039;t take very long, but it would look way better. Just thought I&#039;d ask. [[User:Jim Java|Jim Java]] 20:50, 11 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think that would make the article better at all.  The article as-is is a list of things.  Making that list into a big block of text is not going to help anything.  We don&#039;t need to pretend that this article isn&#039;t a list.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:18, 11 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m gonna throw my hat in here and tell you to just wait.  It&#039;s like Repowers said, give just over a month and the entire article will be totally redone top to bottom, just like you want Jim Java.  Until then look at the Wikipedia article, I&#039;m pretty sure they have it broken into paragraphs and make it an &amp;quot;actual article&amp;quot; as I&#039;m sure you&#039;re insinuating.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:22, 11 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==UK Release 19th June = World Premiere==&lt;br /&gt;
As I write this the UK will be getting this a whole week before the States. So like, can we come and get started on the articles, or will there be Dubya-like emphasis on US civil (=Spoiler) liberties? [[Special:Contributions/82.7.126.27|82.7.126.27]] 12:58, 18 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I figure it&#039;ll be okay if articles are filled out following the UK release.  After all, most of Animated Season 2 aired a week early in Canada, and we still updated those pages even though they hadn&#039;t aired stateside yet. As long as media is officially released in a language we can understand (unlike that whole Dubai incident last year), it&#039;s fair game. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 01:40, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== World premiere was today, June 8, in Japan ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As the title says. Do we need a new, updated &amp;quot;No spoilers&amp;quot; disclaimer in this article and maybe also on the main page?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 16:35, 8 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes and yes and then some.  We should have heavy disclaimage on ALL the in-movie character pages, and also make them--as well as, obviously, this page itself--off-limits to anonymous editors.  (Also, holy shit, am I actually editing on IE now?  Miracle!)  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 16:47, 8 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Score==&lt;br /&gt;
Should the score&#039;s info be added? Samples are up at [http://www.amazon.de/Transformers-Revenge-Fallen-Score/dp/B002DDIXLA/ref=sr_shvl_album_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1245109298&amp;amp;sr=301-2 Amazon Germany&#039;s listing]. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 20:04, 15 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bay wanted to have German soldiers in the movie, German government said &amp;quot;no&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Source: [http://newsticker.sueddeutsche.de/list/id/657558 Press conference from German premiere]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Bundeswehr soldiers in the cinematic end fight between humans and alien machines: That&#039;s how Hollywood warhorse director Michael Bay (&amp;quot;Armageddon&amp;quot;) had planned it for his action flick &#039;&#039;Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;But German authorities threw a monkey wrench in his plans. The Bundeswehr soldiers at an Air Force base in the American desert state of New Mexico had been thrilled, &amp;quot;but unfortunately, the German government said no&amp;quot;, the 44 year old director said at Sunday&#039;s German premiere of the science fiction flick. The cooperation with the US Department of Defense, on the other hand, hadn&#039;t been a problem - he had a direct connection there.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Will probably work it into the article once we go from pre-release to full article.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:14, 16 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What? Germany isn&#039;t allowed to -have- a military.{{unsigned|173.11.36.165|10:02, 24 June 2009}}&lt;br /&gt;
:: You shouldn&#039;t be able to state such garbage [[Special:Contributions/122.107.178.246|122.107.178.246]]&lt;br /&gt;
::You are [[wikipedia:Bundeswehr|mistaken]], sir.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 11:29, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Errors and Inconsistencies==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve just seen the film.  I&#039;m not sure how the final ROTF page will look, but if the previous movie is used as a template, then I can suggest NOW that the Errors/Inconsistencies section be spawned off onto its own page? [[User:Drmick|Drmick]] 19:52, 20 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Basic outline here: [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)/outline]].  Not sure when we should drop it in, but it should be soon. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:13, 20 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unnamed Decepticons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we have any way of getting names for the unnamed decepticons, like the Ravage hairballs seen in the trailer and comic-books? The movie&#039;s not going to help, as it was &#039;&#039;incredibly&#039;&#039; lax on providing names for characters.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 03:31, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mysterious voice credits ==&lt;br /&gt;
Frank Welker is credited as &amp;quot;Reedman&amp;quot; along with Soundwave and Ravage, and Kevin Michael Richardson is both one of the Primes and &amp;quot;Skipjack&amp;quot;. Do we know who these characters are? It doesn&#039;t help that both actors are known for Random Monster Noises roles. -[[User:LV|LV]] 03:53, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Edit: I may mean Soundwave, Devastator and Reedman. The point is, Reedman: WTF? -[[User:LV|LV]] 04:06, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I too saw those credits and wondered... but, I could also swear that I remember someone, maybe Ironhide, saying the name &amp;quot;Skipjack&amp;quot; aloud at one point in the film (at one of the base scenes, maybe?). For the life of me, though, I can&#039;t think of the context it was in. --&lt;br /&gt;
:::Did we happen to catch credits for Demolishor, Rampage, or any other growly-roary-types? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:24, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Devastator clearly said &amp;quot;DEVASTATOR!&amp;quot; during the big overhead shot of him slowly bearing down on the twins. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:37, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I definitely interpreted that as Megatron shouting &amp;quot;DEVASTATOR!&amp;quot; at Devastator for no particular reason. As for Demolishor...he must have had a voice actor, since he had actual dialogue, but I don&#039;t recall seeing it. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:15, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Yeah, I couldn&#039;t decide if the roar of &amp;quot;DEVASTATOR!&amp;quot; was Megatron, or if Devastator had decided to declare his own name for some reason (which wouldn&#039;t be &#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039; odd, given that Megatron did it in the first movie). - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:40, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::It sure sounded like Megatron&#039;s voice to me. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:16, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I&#039;m also with that Megatron&#039;s the one calling to Devastator. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 01:45, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Surely he was calling to get Devastator to stop playing with the humans and come wreck up the pyramid? [[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 10:50, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::In the IMAX it was clearly Megatron based on where the sound was coming from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:49, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Demolisher is in the credits as Wheelbot. But I kept missing it. First time, some dickhead at the back started sticking his hands in front of the projector and blocking it. As for Devastator, he NEVER speaks. Megs yells Devastator&#039;s name. Welker just handled roars and snarls (some blatant Welker animal noises are in there)[[User:Eire]] 15.57 25th June 09&lt;br /&gt;
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:Reedman &#039;&#039;has&#039;&#039; to be the raptor-like thing formed by the [[microcon|ball bearing bot]]s.  He&#039;s a reed-thin man.&lt;br /&gt;
:Sweet, nice to know he has a name. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:41, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::This seems to be corroborated by the Decepticons DS game (not the best source, given the divergence of video game plots, but an official one): before the mission to steal the All Spark shard you&#039;re told that &amp;quot;Ravage and Reed Man&amp;quot; have been sent ahead to secure the target... presumably referencing the skinny con&#039;s theft of the object in question. --[[User:Inevitable Betrayal|Inevitable Betrayal]] 17:44, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Any chance you can get an exact quote on that?  (Because it seems to present Reedman has his own character, rather than a remote probe controlled by Ravage, and I&#039;d like to be able to cite it.)  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:56, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;m afraid not. The dialogue popped up on the map screen between missions instead of within the mission itself, so it&#039;s not replayable, and I was surprised enough by it the first time I didn&#039;t think to write it down. I could start another file and play through to that point again (though I&#039;d rather not, it&#039;s a bit of a letdown compared to the first movie&#039;s DS games), but at the moment all I can say for sure is that it referred to them as a duo, &amp;quot;Ravage and Reed Man,&amp;quot; with Reed Man parsed as two words like that, not one.--[[User:Inevitable Betrayal|Inevitable Betrayal]] 02:35, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well jeez! Sounded like a people-name! I wonder who &amp;quot;Skipjack&amp;quot; is, then? He... he couldn&#039;t be the little guy who gets killed for parts, could be? That guy didn&#039;t speak words, but he did make a sort of cry/yelp of protest as he was set upon. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:46, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That was one of the film&#039;s legions of Constructicons.  Probably not a &amp;quot;Skyjack.&amp;quot; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:54, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::&#039;&#039;Skip&#039;&#039;jack. But, eh, i&#039;m just tossin&#039; it out there. The identity of the sacrificial guy does not really seem to be confirmed - people are just assuming he&#039;s a Constructicon because the other three were Long Haul, Mixmaster and Rampage, and Hightower&#039;s vehicle was on the barge, but no-one&#039;s actually identified the guy based on his physical robot appearance (and as a dirty great crane, Hightower would hardly be &amp;quot;the little one&amp;quot;). - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:58, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I paid attention to the &amp;quot;little one&amp;quot;&#039;s silhouette when I saw the movie again yesterday, and it most resembled Scrapper.  Particularly its skinny legs.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:16, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Let&#039;s see, that was about 40 minutes in so... &#039;&#039;*runs up MP3 of the movie&#039;s audio*&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
::::No, the &#039;parts&#039; con doesn&#039;t make more than a few Ewok burbles.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Could he be the jackhammer-Decepticon that kidnapped Ron and Judy? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:14, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::As it transpires, yes. [http://www.aciphex.com/ This interview] (search for &amp;quot;Skipjack&amp;quot;) makes it pretty clear that Skipjack was the working name for the red bulldozer identified onscreen as Rampage. So it&#039;s a Demolishor/Wheelbot situation, apparently. Disappointing resolution, especially since it still leaves us with two bulldozers named Rampage. -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:47, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I.... theeeenk you may have got your link wrong, there? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:10, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::[https://www.editorsguild.com/FromtheGuild.cfm?FromTheGuildid=84 He probably meant this one.] -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:22, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::THe sad thing is that I can&#039;t even come up with a funny rationale for the link to AcipHex here. (I was originally linking it elsewhere because the TV won&#039;t stop telling me to try Ass Effects - guess it stayed in my clipboard.) FAiled. -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:25, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::No, Starscream specifically calls him Rampage.  (And he is Rampage.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:16, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Wasn&#039;t Devastator already formed by that point?  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:19, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Sure, but there were lots of Constructicons running around the same time as Devastator was formed (the group from the barge turn up with Ravage partway through the fight). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:31, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::It just sounds like a likely name for his color-swap.  (Which in this case, i guess... was forming Devastator.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:16, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::&#039;&#039;but no-one&#039;s actually identified the guy based on his physical robot appearance&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:::[http://deriksmith.livejournal.com/41048.html Some douchebag] posted bootleg screencaps of the Laurentian Abyss sequence on his blog.&lt;br /&gt;
:::While not appropriate for inclusion here as a &#039;&#039;primary source&#039;&#039;, useful for IDing nonetheless.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:24, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I should probably post what I did on LJ here.  Re: the last photo - those claws don&#039;t look anything alike.  That&#039;s no game-only generic.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:53, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::And &#039;&#039;I&#039;&#039; should probably post what I did on LJ here.  The game-model and movie-model for Constructicon Scout are different (thus the clamps not matching) but Constructicon Scout is &#039;&#039;definitely&#039;&#039; in the movie.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:13, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::As Walky so bluntly put it-- &amp;quot;It&#039;s scrapper.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::Or rather- the Constructicon Scout is based on Scrapper.  An extra layer of confusion is added because the Scrapper toy lacks the giant arms that the CS has-- &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; [http://i44.tinypic.com/1zzji3l.gif the character in the movie has].  But since there&#039;s only one Scraper toy that Transformes, apparently we&#039;re treating his truncated arms as a concession to toy engineering.&lt;br /&gt;
:::So would it be &#039;&#039;more accurate&#039;&#039; to say that Scrapper &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; a Constructicon Scout?  Or is physically identical to them? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:06, 27 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t know if this helps, but in the somewhat inaccurate comic version of the movie, Ravage, Long Haul, and Scrapper are clearly seen jumping off the boat, so it may mean Scrapper is &amp;quot;the little one?[[Special:Contributions/71.199.127.210|71.199.127.210]] 13:37, 28 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==It&#039;s UpGrade Time==&lt;br /&gt;
So, can we start working on this now or what? [[User:Eire]] 12.44 June 24 09&lt;br /&gt;
: Yes.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:36, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Foreign titles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Are foreign titles usually included if they just mean &amp;quot;Revenge of The Fallen&amp;quot; in their own language? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:37, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: They shouldn&#039;t be.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:45, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The frensh versin is called &amp;quot;transformers: the revenge&amp;quot;(le révange?)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 11:47, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: That&#039;s different enough.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:48, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: The Brazilian title (Portuguese) renders as &amp;quot;The Revenge of the Defeated&amp;quot; when I put it through Google Translate.  Is that different enough?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 12:35, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Inasmuch as &amp;quot;defeated&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t have the same additional connotations of &amp;quot;falling from grace&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;killed in battle&amp;quot; as the original English, I&#039;d say so.[[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 10:47, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Trivia cull ==&lt;br /&gt;
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One is long overdue in my opinion. Much of this &amp;quot;trivia&amp;quot; is snippets of news on who was cast, and has since been unequivocally confirmed and properly organized in the locations it &#039;&#039;should&#039;&#039; be.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 21:33, 24 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Not-Bonecrusher ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m assuming that the guy who wasn&#039;t Bonecrusher was actually [[Constructicon Scout]].  Is that a safe guess to go with?  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:46, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I didn&#039;t see any Bonecrusher in the film.  People just say they saw Bonecrusher&#039;s altmode, the Buffalo.  No robot mode, far as I&#039;m aware.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:48, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I think he was running around during the Egypt battle. You could see him standing behind some pillars. Since there were multiple Constructicons running around, this was evidently was not the very-dead Bonecrusher.[[Special:Contributions/67.242.198.238|67.242.198.238]] 12:07, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It was definitely a use of the CGI Bonecrusher model in robot mode. [[Special:Contributions/82.7.126.27|82.7.126.27]] 12:09, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*swears*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;  I was hoping it was the Constructicon Scout, but he has a different robot mode.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:14, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You can definitely see Bonecrusher&#039;s vehicle mode rolling in with the other Decepticons. I don&#039;t recall seeing his robot mode, but then again, he looks quite similar in robot mode to a bunch of Constructicons. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 12:42, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
So I saw it again in IMAX.  That&#039;s definitely Bonecrusher rolling in.&lt;br /&gt;
# His remains weren&#039;t among those being disposed of after the first movie.&lt;br /&gt;
# We&#039;ve got a toy bio stating he survived.&lt;br /&gt;
# He&#039;s &#039;&#039;in&#039;&#039; the ^&amp;amp;*( second film.&lt;br /&gt;
Baring Hasbro releasing a redeco and declaring this a new character, it looks like Bonecrusher really &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; survive.  And until that happens, I&#039;m going with the face-value reading and removing the &amp;quot;a Bonecrusher lookalike&amp;quot; note in the cast list.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:01, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Good points! I agree. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 00:05, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I disagree. I think &amp;quot;a toy bio stating he survived&amp;quot; is completely irrelevant, as we got one of those for Jazz, too. That was definitely Bonecrusher&#039;s vehicle mode in ROTF, but I sure as hell don&#039;t think it was actually Bonecrusher, any more than I think that the helicopter was Blackout. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 00:23, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That is your personal canon. The fiction says otherwise. The toy bio is completely irrelevant iff it contradicts the movies. This time the movies back it up. It is willful blindness to say Bonecrusher isn&#039;t in the movie when he is right there. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:28, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It&#039;s willful blindness to assume similar alt means same guy, in a movie where a guy with Blackout&#039;s body-type is quite prominent. G1 colourd Jazz&#039;s bio says he survives. Brawl&#039;s got a ROTF repaint. He was decapitated and had his whole head smashed in. He&#039;s dead Jim. Writing a whole section of fiction you made up on Bonecrusher&#039;s page is madness. Give the toy bio it&#039;s own section and a note that we see his vehicle mode among the protoforms and leave it at that. [[User:Eire|Eire]] 15.28 30 June 09 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Character profiles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m starting to see descriptions of the character&#039;s movie role around the wiki. Is this okay yet? [[User:Crow T. Robot|Crow T. Robot]] 14:32, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:So long as you use the proper spoiler tags.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 14:34, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::What about the articles that have the &amp;quot;do not add information&amp;quot; tags? Can we start to take those down? [[User:Crow T. Robot|Crow T. Robot]] 14:40, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The coming soon tags? Yeah, those were just waiting for the film release.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 14:46, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Our policy on new releases is that if the media has been officially released in a language you can understand, you are well within your rights to be write up a summary, as long as you put up a spoiler tag. Like Wikipedia, we urge people to be bold, but be smart. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 14:55, 26 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== More Quotes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What other quotes do you want to use (i.e: &amp;quot;I RISE, YOU FALL.&amp;quot; from Optimus Prime)?&lt;br /&gt;
: I really don&#039;t think the umpteenth regurgitation of the TFTM-quote-that-will-not-die is worth singling out for praise.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 27 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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What does anyone think about the opening monologue by Prime as one of the captions? I can only remember so much, anybody got it?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:09, 6 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Five/Six Contacts Error==&lt;br /&gt;
Wouldn&#039;t this NOT be an error, since Ravge ejected Scalpel from his chest, thereby replacing Hightower? {{unsigned|71.179.155.170|07:44, 28 June 2009}}&lt;br /&gt;
:You mean Scrapper, who was the one killed. And yeah, that&#039;s what I thought while watching the film, though I wondered if Scalpel was actually large enough to register? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:48, 28 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::HAY GUYS - Hightower and Scrapper WEREN&#039;T EVEN THERE. Four Constructicons jumped in - Red Rampage, Long Haul, Mixmaster and Small Excavator Guy. Unnamed dude was killed. Megatron, Scalpel and Ravage make six contacts surfacing.&lt;br /&gt;
::: Ahem, from Scalpel&#039;s page &amp;quot;...Using parts &amp;quot;donated&amp;quot; by Hightower...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
::: Anywho, the point is, wouldn&#039;t Scalpel&#039;s presence nullify the error? {{unsigned|71.179.155.170|08:41, 28 June 2009}}&lt;br /&gt;
::::It is neither Scrapper nor Hightower. I have since edited articles and have removed the error. The unnamed is a small Volvo excavator similar to Demolishor&#039;s vehicle mode as he was incorrectly depicted in the ROTF adaptation comic. It did not look like Hightower&#039;s truss crane. Also, sign off on your comments, it is difficult to know who is saying what. See the signature button next to the crossed out W? Click that. Thanks. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:24, 28 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Adding extra confusion: The possibility that the extra reading was Blackout.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::On my second viewing, it really looks like The Doctor &#039;&#039;strikes&#039;&#039; the shard in Megatron&#039;s chest rather than permanantly inserting it.  Maybe they &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; revive Blackout.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:18, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Grindor&#039;s from space.  Megatron left the Constructicons, Ravage, and the Doctor far behind on Earth, and he traveled allll the way up to Saturn to visit the Nemesis.  And what&#039;s he find in the Nemesis?  Starscream and hatchlings.  And next we see Megatron on Earth, he&#039;s with Starscream.  And another guy.  That guy was a hatchling.  That guy was Grindor.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:20, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::He&#039;s also with The Doctor, who should be with Ravage and the Constructicons.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::I don&#039;t actually think the Helicopter &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; Blackout-- I mean he has a &#039;&#039;&#039;different altmode&#039;&#039;&#039; fergods sake.  If Bay intended it to be Blackout he&#039;d have used the same helicopter, regardless whether it&#039;d been retired or not.  And anyway- HASBRO clearly thinks that&#039;s Grindor.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::I&#039;m just trying to figure out what might&#039;ve been goign through the movie production&#039;s head with that funny number.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:08, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I imagine they filmed the blips on the radar approximately nine months before animating/rendering/writing the scene of the guys underwater.  WHOOPS. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Given that they went to the trouble of getting Welker for Soundwave and the forgot to put a vocoder over him, I could believe it.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:46, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::Though considering Welker apparently didn&#039;t like what the G1 cartoon did to his Soundwave voice, it&#039;s possible he asked Bay to not process it, and Bay was cool with that. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:23, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::Can I ask why it is stated as fact that Scalpel is too small to be detected by the submarine in the trivia section? Isn&#039;t that just speculation?[[User:Thelastallosaur|Thelastallosaur]] 15:32, 3 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::Considering that sonar and radar work the same way, the smaller the object the smaller the signature. It makes sense that Scalpel--being about a foot long and tall--wouldn&#039;t be shown on the sonar. If you look at the screen, there&#039;s one small signature going down and coming up, probably Ravage considering his size. It makes sense.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 21:26, 3 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Scalpel&#039;s about the size of a fish.  I don&#039;t know for certain, but I&#039;m pretty sure if the radar raised a contact alert every time a fish swam towards the sub, it&#039;d be pretty useless. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:56, 3 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::Ravage is the size of a jaguar, which is what? the size of a shark? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:05, 3 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::::Is he?  I don&#039;t remember any shots in the movie where his size was even established, offhand.  I thought he was pretty big though. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:18, 3 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::::Hasbro [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm battle bios] say he is &amp;quot;4 ft.&amp;quot; but I can&#039;t really tell if that means 4 feet tall or 4 feet long or what. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:25, 3 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::::Starfield, if he was four feet long, he&#039;d be pretty damn small, considering how long his tail is. We see him next to the alt modes of several transformers and we see him on Bee. He&#039;s at least as big as a tiger, probably bigger. [[User:Eire|Eire]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Well sonuvabitch, you guys got me second guessing myself. Thanks. Now I gotta go watch the movie again.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 23:53, 3 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Graham ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Whatever happened to that Agent Graham guy. Was he even in it? He is still in the credits on the official ROTF website. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:21, 29 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wasn&#039;t he that one British guy with NEST? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 15:49, 29 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, he wore a brown beret. [[Special:Contributions/79.68.235.108|79.68.235.108]] 16:01, 29 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::He&#039;s the Tom Cruise lookalike with about three lines.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 03:25, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::And he wasn&#039;t an &amp;quot;agent&amp;quot;, he was supposedly a member of the SASF, a fictionalized version of the Special Air Service. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:20, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Frenzy&#039;s head ==&lt;br /&gt;
This error keeps on getting added/deleted endlessly, some official consensus would be good. His head didn&#039;t blow up, it was sliced it half, so it&#039;s not terribly unreasonable that the two pieces were glued or welded back together. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 22:06, 29 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Images? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I happen to have a downloaded version of Revenge of The Fallen (I DID go to the movie, and I AM going to buy the dvd, so stop whining!), would you like me to make some screencaps and upload them?&lt;br /&gt;
(Particularly Reedman and Arcee miss clear images){{unsigned|ThiAthEhn|13:58, 1 July 2009}}&lt;br /&gt;
:The enthusiasm and offer of help are appreciated, but unfortunately screencaps from a pirated download would get us in deep doo-doo. Thanks for asking before uploading, though.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 14:04, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::To elaborate, we have a policy against using images or information from unofficial, leaked or stolen sources, which obviously includes screencaps from a blurry camjob of Revenge of the Fallen. The DVD will be out in 3-4 months anyway. We can wait. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:18, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::We could use screens taken from the trailers and released clips and such though right? Or realsed screencaps? [[User:Eire|Eire]] 13.41 July 02 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Absolutely.  As long as it&#039;s a thing that was officially approved and released, go nuts.  [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 08:48, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center location ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Regarding the grafting of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_F._Udvar-Hazy_Center Steven_F._Udvar-Hazy_Center] to the Boneyard: it should be noted that the UHC is in &#039;&#039;Chantilly, VA&#039;&#039;, rather outside of Washington, DC proper. There is actually more space next to the hangar, where Jetfire would have exited if they didn&#039;t have the compositing transition to the Boneyard.  However, while the area&#039;s grassy and flat, it&#039;s surrounded by small chunks of forest (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dulles_Tower_360.JPG], it looks right out over the hangar entrance he would have exited from), and is further connected to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Dulles_International_Airport Dulles Airport] in the distance. :)  I can only assume they went with the visual assumption that &amp;quot;hey, it&#039;s a museum, they&#039;d have lots of mothballed planes around, and what&#039;s there right now is boring&amp;quot;, but that&#039;s purely speculation on my part.  Either way you slice it, it&#039;s still an &amp;quot;error&amp;quot;...&lt;br /&gt;
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I just find this amusing, given that the UHC is one of the IMAX theaters where ROTF is being &#039;&#039;shown&#039;&#039;... :) [[Special:Contributions/96.231.155.47|96.231.155.47]] 22:31, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:And there&#039;s a HUGE IMAX logo &#039;&#039;in&#039;&#039; the movie...--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:41, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Caption theme==&lt;br /&gt;
Since the first film used a TF:TM theme, why not use the abandoned Star Wars theme here. [[User:Eire|Eire]] 13.41 July 02 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Specifically, &#039;&#039;Empire&#039;&#039;.  Kurtzman and Orci even said they were trying to match it in terms of upping the menace and having the Fallen be like the Emperor.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:01, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggestion - lock this article so only registered users can edit. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am sure we are all sick and tired of anonymous people coming in and making stupid, incorrect, poorly spelled edits to our a article. Let&#039;s just lock this down so that we only need to watch out for newbie editors. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:09, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Seconded. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 19:02, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The motion&#039;s seconded. Aye. Does motion carry?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 20:37, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== French title ==&lt;br /&gt;
Could you add back the fact that the French title has no &#039;&#039;2&#039;&#039; in it (at least, not in the Quebec version. You tell &#039;em, Detour), because some IP (80.236.81.91) undid my edit. Probably thought that because all other foreign titles had a 2, French was no different. Anyway I would do it myself if it wasn&#039;t for the semi-protection (which I am totally for). I know it&#039;s kind of silly to ask other people to do modifications for me, but please. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196|66.131.29.196]] 21:08, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:[http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_16816.html Êtes-vous certains?] -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:14, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::We indeed do not have a 2 in our Transformers title in Quebec. Maybe it&#039;s just France? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:35, 2 July 2009 (EDT)`&lt;br /&gt;
::Non-teaser trailer supports this: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9uUVkYB6Aw&amp;amp;fmt=18] --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:39, 2 July 2009 (EDT)	&lt;br /&gt;
:::Les Français sont toujours causé des problèmes. Peut-être qu&#039;ils pensent qu&#039;il est numérotée en métrique? Si le film a utilisé un chiffre romain ils se seraient probablement merde leur pantalon et ensuite les manger. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:48, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Please stop butchering my language. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:50, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Seconded. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 21:52, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Ce n&#039;est pas de ma faute! Il est le poisson vivant dans mon oreille! En tout cas, de véritables langues sont basés sur ECMAScript.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:01, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::&amp;quot;English, dude. English.&amp;quot; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:33, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Thanks. Oh, and Derik, please stop. It kinda hurts me as a Frenchie-Canuck to see that. Plus, you&#039;re probably using internet translation, which as you can see is quite pitiful. Nice one LoneGamer, BTW. I couldn&#039;t have said it better. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196|66.131.29.196]] 20:45, 3 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Section ordering/technical details ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking at the 2007 movie page... it&#039;s got a LOT of really boring-ass info on it.  Formatting, foreign movie board ratings, etc, etc.... all that stuff should be waaaaaaay down near the bottom, if not on an entirely separate page, considering how long the 2007 movie page is.&lt;br /&gt;
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And likewise for this one.  Why is cast before the synopsis?  Why do we need a list of foreign titles taking up the entire first screen of the page?  Etc. etc.?  -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:37, 7 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Transformation</title>
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformation&#039;&#039;&#039; (or &#039;&#039;&#039;Transform&#039;&#039;&#039; if you failed English class) is the process by which a [[Transformer]] alters his form between modes.  It should not be confused with [[reformatting]], a type of full-body upgrade.&lt;br /&gt;
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The technical details of transformation, as well as the manner in which the art was introduced to the Transformers themselves, vary between [[continuities]].  When the issue is addressed at all, transformation is usually treated as an innovation from some point early in Cybertronian history rather than something that was literally always with them.  The Transformers were, at the time of their genesis, simply Cybertronians -- mechanical life-forms -- and became &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; only later.  However, just as often in &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; fiction the &amp;quot;origin&amp;quot; of transforming is simply not discussed.&lt;br /&gt;
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In most continuities, transformation is not a trait limited to Cybertronians.  Both sentient alien races (such as [[Junkion|Junkions]] and some portrayals of the [[Lithone (planet)|Lithonians]]) and animals (such as the [[lipole]] on Jupiter&#039;s moon [[Io]] or the parasitic [[Scraplet|scraplets]]) exhibit the same ability.  The [[Quintesson|Quintessons]] also incorporated transformation into some of their later creations including the [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]], [[Allicon|Allicons]], and [[Overcharge]] drones.  Some examples of transforming robotic aliens, however, can be traced to colonization in the distant past by Cybertronians.  The G1 planet [[Paradron]], as well as the main planets in the [[Cybertron (franchise)|&#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039; franchise]] are examples of this.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Special transformation types ==&lt;br /&gt;
===High-speed transformation===&lt;br /&gt;
Some Transformers, specifically the Autobot [[Jumpstarter|Jumpstarters]] and the Decepticon [[Battlecharger|Battlechargers]], are specifically designed to transform much faster than ordinary Transformers, usually taking less than half of an Earth second to switch from robot to alt-mode or vice versa.  How much this ability depends on physical versus mental capabilities is unknown.  In the [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] G1 continuity, [[Triple Changer|Triple Changers]] were also stated to have unusually fast transformations (roughly twice the normal speed, whatever that is).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Multiple alternate modes===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Quickswitch&#039;s various transformations from Dreamwave&#039;s More than Meets the Eye .jpg|left|250px|thumb|&amp;amp;quot;How can you (transform) all six?&amp;amp;quot; It&amp;amp;#39;s IMPOSSIBLE!!]] &lt;br /&gt;
Robots with multiple transformations (Triple Changers, et al.) are a special case.  Though there seems to be some aspect of natural aptitude at play in one&#039;s ability to master multiple forms (for example [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] comics referred to a &amp;quot;genetic potential&amp;quot; within the [[Spark|sparks]] of such robots), and of course the special physical construction granting those forms, the balance of the matter seems to be one of training.  Most Six Changers are said to have mastered their plethora of transformations through rigorous study.  The largest number of modes exhibited by any single individual to date is [[Megatron (RID)|RID Galvatron]], who had ten.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Adaptable bodies===&lt;br /&gt;
Some groups of Transformers such as the [[Go-Bots (toyline)|Go-Bots]] use a process similar to reformatting to more radically alter their forms while transforming.  This ability to start with one robot and alternate form and transform easily to entirely different variations without extensive mechanical work comes from [[Gobrillium|unique metals]] in the Go-Bots&#039; bodies, and does not apply to most Transformers.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the [[Movie (franchise)|Movie]] continuity family, Bumblebee seems to demonstrate this ability in the prequel novel [[Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday]]. He descends to the desert planet in his cometary [[Transition form]] and transforms to robot mode. Upon realizing he needs to travel quickly, Bumblebee transforms into a very basic four-wheeled all-terrain vehicle.  The narration explains that he created this altmode from an internal memory database of vehicle forms.  The entire process seems to take practically no time at all, as if he were just transforming into his alt-mode as all Transformers do.  The narration does not imply that this ability is only possessed by Bumblebee, and indeed the movie suggests that all Transformers in this continuity can switch altmodes almost at will.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformation cogs===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Transformation cog.jpg|left|200px|thumb|MacGuffin du jour.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the G1 animated series, the city Transformers [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] and [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] are both specifically stated to possess devices known as [[Transformation cog|transformation cogs]] that somehow control their transformation processes, and are essential to allow them to transform at all.  Such cogs are rarely mentioned elsewhere in the fiction -- even in other continuities -- so it is not clear if all Transformers require them, or Metroplex and Trypticon are special cases, perhaps because of their size.  However, one other example is that [[Nitrostreak]] (&amp;quot;Unit One&amp;quot; of the [[Maximal Command Security Force]]) had his cog damaged in a firefight with [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]&#039;s henchmen.   {{storylink|Dawn of Future&#039;s Past|Dawn of Future&#039;s Past}}  Since this story takes place in an unknown &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; setting, and the &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; cartoon itself takes place in an amalgamated G1 universe, the larger significance of this event is up for debate.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:OP transforms.gif|right|247px|thumb|Optimus Prime: Lord of the Dance.]]&lt;br /&gt;
===Generation One===&lt;br /&gt;
====Marvel comics====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Marvel UK comic additions in italics)&#039;&#039;.  [[Unicron]] was the first Transformer, fashioning his metal prison into a robotic semblance of his original form.  [[Primus]], watching from a distance, was all like, &amp;quot;Oh &#039;&#039;snap&#039;&#039;, robots that turn into things?  Why didn&#039;t I think of that?&amp;quot; and quickly trained his own children to do the same thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some accounts credit the development of transformation to Megatron and the Decepticons, with the Autobots later copying the technique. This, perhaps, implies that the potential for transformation instilled by Primus was dormant until Megatron realised it, or that it was forgotten and rediscovered at some point.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;It would appear that neglecting to transform between altmode and robot mode at least on occasion had physical feedback consequences: whilst battling [[Flame (UK comic)|Flame]], [[Emirate Xaaron]] was well aware that, having failed to transform for hundreds of years, the shock to his system upon transforming to combat mode had a good chance of killing him.  Which just goes to show that Continuing Physical Exercise Is Important For Everyday Health.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Just as importantly, neglecting to have all one&#039;s body parts connected at the time of attempting transformation was also a very painful, if not impossible, process.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Animated series====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Bumblebee transforming.gif|left|213px|thumb|Just lying down is a transformation]]&lt;br /&gt;
Transformation was an [[Autobot]] innovation, developed during their first war with the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]] when it became apparent that they could not match their firepower and strength. The art of transformation allowed the Autobots to disguise their forms, thereby allowing for stealthy attacks on their enemies. This strategy met with great success, and the Decepticons were defeated, allowing the era of peacetime known as the [[Golden Age|Golden Age of Cybertron]] to settle in. The Decepticons subsequently adopted transformation technology themselves, coupled with robot-mode [[Flight|flight powers]], and re-ignited the [[Great War (G1)|civil war]].  {{storylink|War Dawn}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Transformers generally seem able to shift modes at will, although in cases where they have suffered severe physical injuries, transformation is sometimes a strain.  In one case, [[A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur&#039;s Court|and one case only]], a Transformer indicated that staying in his altmode was too energy consumptive, and had to revert to his robot mode: [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]], when trapped in medieval [[United Kingdom|England]] and low on fuel. This problem seems to almost never come up, even in cases where Transformers are very low on energy, so its significance is unknown.  Perhaps walking is simply more energy efficient than moving his tank treads.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Japanese animated series====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Headmasters tf stuck.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Ow.]]&lt;br /&gt;
With the introduction of the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]], transformation was established to be quite a rigorous task that, at least initially, required intense physical and mental concentration to accomplish, honed over a period of in-depth training. These small robots left Cybertron during the wars millions of years ago, but were so young that they had not actually learned how to transform yet. To survive the harsh climate of the [[Master (Headmasters)|planet]] they crash-landed on, they developed [[Transtector|Transtectors]] - normal-sized Transformer bodies that they would be able to connect to - and underwent a period of prolonged, intensive training so that they could learn to transform and link up with them. Even the most promising candidates struggled when they first connected with their Transtectors, spasming and becoming stuck between modes as they attempted to trigger the conversion.  {{storylink|The Four-Million-Year-Old Veil of Mystery|The Four-Million-Year-Old Veil of Mystery}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;-era Transformers have their transformation sequences controlled by the same onboard computers which manage a variety of other body functions, such as [[stasis lock]].  Transformation is triggered by a command to this computer, usually done by voice, but sometimes with a thought.  These computers may have been a part of the [[Great Upgrade]], and once activated they choreograph the shifting body parts, allowing the Transformer to continue to concentrate on other matters. This is in-line with the Japanese portrayal of transformation, in that it suggests transformation is a mentally rigorous task (at least in the sense that it requires a few seconds of concentration), which is now conveniently removed from the equation.&lt;br /&gt;
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Post-reformatting, the new [[technorganic]] forms granted to Cybertron&#039;s inhabitants lacked on-board computers, requiring them to re-learn the mental disciplines involved.  It may be that a technorganic transformation is more difficult even than a traditional transformation, as the reformatted Maximals often reverted to their beast modes upon losing their concentration or emotional &amp;quot;center&amp;quot;.  This notion that the transformed state requires constant effort may be related to Warpath&#039;s statement about his tank mode consuming more energy (mentioned above). &lt;br /&gt;
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Due to their technorganic nature, the Maximals of Beast Machines do not transform via any recognized mechanical process. Rather, in many cases their limbs actually change shape via an unknown means, presumably part and parcel of their new condition. One of the most prominent examples of this is [[Noble]], who transforms between two extremely dissimilar and wholly organic forms.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Movie continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Movie OptimusPrime highwaytransform1.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Cool to see, but it&amp;amp;#39;s a nightmare with regards to toy accuracy.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Transformation requires an alternate mode which is [[Frenzy (Movie)|generally]] of similar mass to the Transformer&#039;s robot mode. Once taking the form, however, the Transformer appears to be able to reorder his physical structure, causing some of the outward appearances of the vehicle mode to disappear. For example, Optimus Prime displays an incredibly complex Transformation where some of his alternate mode&#039;s appearances seem to be absorbed into his body or outright disappear. This may be due to the [[self-regenerating molecular armor]]&#039;s possibly fluid [[Trans-scan|trans-scanning]] abilities.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animated continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
Transforming is something that can be done for exercise.  In [[Autoboot Camp]], [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)| Sentinel Minor]] had recruits perform &#039;&#039;transform-ups&#039;&#039;, rapidly switching from their robot to their vehicle form while in a [[Wikipedia:prone_position|prone position]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==The noise==&lt;br /&gt;
===Technical description===&lt;br /&gt;
Transformation is often accompanied by a [[media:Tf_sound.ogg|distinct noise]]--an 8hz pulse, repeated five times, with each pulse lasting a roughly equal amount of time, whose pitch can be represented by the absolute value of a declining (for alt-mode to robot mode) or increasing (for robot mode to alt-mode) sine wave. In the G1 series, the sine wave generally increased when a Transformer changed to his robot mode, and declined when he converted to vehicle form (or whichever mode was smaller/shorter.)  As a rule of thumb, the larger the robot, the deeper the pitch of the sound, and the longer the duration of the pulses. There is no general consensus as to what onomatopoeia should be used to represent this sound. Keekookookoo, or Kookeekee&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continuity locations===&lt;br /&gt;
Within the early years of the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|G1 Cartoon]], almost all transformations were accompanied by the Noise in some manner, generally lasting the duration of the transformation sequence and being the only noise made by transformations. &#039;&#039;[[The Headmasters (cartoon)|Headmasters]]&#039;&#039; began with most Transformers still retaining the Noise, but around a third of the way into the series, its use became more intermittent, particularly for the Autobot Headmasters themselves. &#039;&#039;[[Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Masterforce]]&#039;&#039; still used the sound for the [[Pretender|Pretenders]]&#039; transformations in robot mode, but the Autobot [[Headmaster Junior|Headmaster Juniors]] and Autobot [[Godmaster|Godmasters]] had new sounds, with most of the Decepticons retaining the original. The Noise was dropped completely for &#039;&#039;[[Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!|Zone]]&#039;&#039;. By the era of the [[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]], however, most characters made more complicated mechanical-sounding noises when transforming. In spite of this, the rebuilt [[Ravage]] still made only the Noise when transforming.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Noise was in fact first heard in the initial Transformers commercial for [[The Transformers (comic issue)|#1]] of the Marvel Comic, but only as part of the Transformers music track, the actual transformations being depicted with a series of generic mechanical sounds. The Noise was subsequently shown to occur the same as the animated series during television commercials throughout the rest of [[The Transformers (toyline)|G1]] and all the way through [[Generation 2 (toyline)|G2]]. It appeared in the first commercials for the [[Beast Wars (toyline)|Beast Wars]] toyline, featuring a CG clip of [[Optimus Primal|Optimus Primal (bat) vs Megatron (alligator) two-pack]], but was dropped once the commercials started using footage from the [[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars cartoon]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The Noise did not appear again until &#039;&#039;[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039;, where the Noise was heard uniformly among all Transformers at the very beginning of transformation sequences, rather than lasting the duration of the transformation like in the past. &lt;br /&gt;
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Two new versions of the Noise were heard in &#039;&#039;[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]&#039;&#039;, and then the second version of the &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; Noise was used in &#039;&#039;[[Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]&#039;&#039; (though not in &#039;&#039;[[Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]&#039;&#039;).  As with RiD, the timing of the Noise did not seem to correspond to the transformation sequence, instead playing at a random point during the sequence. The original version of the Noise was heard briefly in &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; as part of one of the background music tracks, and in &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; on occasion whenever part of the Japanese sound effects track was not completely dubbed over (the Noise being more prominent in &#039;&#039;Super Link&#039;&#039;).&lt;br /&gt;
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In the [[Transformers (2007)|2007 movie]], the original Noise could be heard accompanying a portion of both [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]]&#039;s first transformation, and the conversion of the [[Nokia robot]], though in both instances, a foreground object blocked the view of the robot at that instant, leaving it unclear if the Noise corresponded with any specific moving parts.  The Noise could be heard during Bumblebee&#039;s off-screen transformation as he saves the kids while escaping Sector Seven, and a new, mixed and appropriately slowed version of the Noise also accompanied [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]&#039;s later slow-motion transformation.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Noise accompanies most or all transformation sequences in &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]&#039;&#039;, even minor ones including battle masks, [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]]&#039;s &amp;quot;stinger&amp;quot; pop-out weapons, Blitzwing&#039;s changing of faces, Ratchet&#039;s magnets, and [[Sari Sumdac|Sari&#039;s]] shape-shifting Key. In the case of smaller, specific parts, the Noise is sometimes played sped up or higher pitched.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Function===&lt;br /&gt;
At this time, neither the cause of the Noise nor its relationship to a Transformer&#039;s ability to transform is known.  It may just be a side effect to the transformation process.&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;Transform&amp;quot; as a verb==&lt;br /&gt;
For reasons relating to intellectual property law, and the need to preserve &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; as a [[trademark]], [[Hasbro]] and [[Takara]] do not use &amp;quot;transform&amp;quot; as a verb to describe this ability of Transformers in printed materials describing products. Instead synonyms such as &amp;quot;convert&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;morph&amp;quot; are used. This does not extend to in-fiction dialog, however.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Transformation (toys)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Role of transformation]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Transformer culture]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Biology]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Sideswipe (Movie)</title>
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{{disambig3|Sideswipe}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Sideswipe is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Revenge of the Fallen Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|300px|Not [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|this guy]].]]&#039;&#039;&#039;Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; transforms into a Chevrolet Corvette Centennial Stingray Concept!&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===IDW &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movie comics===&lt;br /&gt;
{{spoiler|Alliance issue 4|April 25 2009}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After the [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]&#039;s Autobots left [[Mission City]], they left a homing beacon in a junk yard near the metropolis to attract any Autobots who might have heard Prime&#039;s rallying call to [[Earth]]. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 3}} Sideswipe was among those few that safely arrived and had hidden themselves in the junk yard. Once discovered, they were brought to [[Diego Garcia]] to train with the other Autobots and [[William Lennox|Major Lennox]]&#039;s soldiers in defense of their new home. However, they soon had to apply that training on the battlefield: the [[Decepticon]] [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]] had been sighted in [[Shanghai]], [[China]]. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; movie===&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoon}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Revenge of the Fallen===&lt;br /&gt;
====Deluxe Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTFSideswipe 2009 Deluxe.jpg|right|250px|thumb|His heroes are [[Tigatron]] and [[Wolverine]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe Class, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;RA-04&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Battle Chargers====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTFSideswipe BattleChargers 2009.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Not [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; (2009)&lt;br /&gt;
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====Gravity Bots====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; (2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;GB-04&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Merchandise==&lt;br /&gt;
===Robot Heroes===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sideswipe and Sideways&#039;&#039;&#039; (2009)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTFSideswipe RobotHeroes 2009.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Hey! You! You&#039;re going down!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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