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Talk:Ejector

2009-08-14T08:50:29Z

128.208.43.92: /* Plug */

I can't tell you how glorious it is that we have to disambiguate "Toaster" on this wiki.--[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 22:08, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:It made my morning. I went to check something on the MD website and-- "wait,t here's a new commercial? With ''more'' new characters?" -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Realgear or not realgear that's the question. ==

What differs between Toaster and Frenzy that make one a Real Gear, and the other not. Or has frenzy to be classified a Real Gear too? Or is Toaster in fact not a Real Gear? The debate is now open!

:Frenzy? Frenzy is a Decepticon from Cybertron. Real Gear Robots are Earth machines brought to life by the Allspark. I don't think Toaster belong in the RGR category, though. Even though I'd say it's likely that he ''is'' an Earth machine brought to life by the Allsaprk, we should only use the RGR category for the toyline. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 01:16, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

:Real Gear, for reasons previously stated on the [[Talk:Real Gear Robot]] page.
:Hardcore movie spoilers (i.e. reading the novelization) present a clearer picture why than readily apparent from the Real Gear Robots toy bio. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
::Since the number of people who are willing to spoil themselves just to check your work is going to be extremely limited, I'm not really okay with you having free reign over stuff like this for a month while we wait for the movie to come out so we can edit out all the Derik. I say put the novelization aside for now. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Hrm... how to argue this without movie spoilers then...
:::Fine, I substitute the Real Gear Robot [[AX9-8946-09SU-1]] from the Sector 7 ARG (the one who killed [[James Farr]]) as a non-spoilery example of the phenomena. Unliving Earth hardware animated by the Allspark starts out as a feral killing machine. Toaster is thus one step along the path from AX9-8946-09SU-1 to the fully-mature, individualized RGR toy characters. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

::::Why must it be argued immediately? Can we not completely ignore the novelization and adaptation comic until the movie comes out, and only use other sources, such as the toyline, until then? If we end up wrong, then we can fix it when it's appropriate. Such is the way of a "living" resource. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 01:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

::::I would add "how do you know for a fact that Toaster was born on Earth, Derik?", seeing as [[Toaster|G1 Toaster]] was from Cybertron, but I don't want to see another string of spoilers added to this page. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 01:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I have been thinking along the lines of: While all "Real Gear Robots" are Earth machines brought to life by the Allpsark, not all Earth machines brought to life by the Allspark are necessarily "Real Gear Robots." That we should only label as Real Gears things that actually, officially have that label. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 01:27, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
:I understand that is your perspective, but the ''definition'' of RGR's given for the line is 'Machines animated by the Allspark.' '''minor''' spoiler below.
:In the movie we will (apparently) see a cell phone animated by the allspark. It is demonstrably not [[Speed Dial 800]]. But is SD800 ''is'' a RGR... why the hell isn't Unnamed Cell Phone #2 a RGR? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:35, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Various points:
#Unless there is another convenient term for "Earth machines brought to life by the AllSpark", I strongly disagree with restricting use of the term "Real Gear Robots" only to characters from the toyline. We need a term for it, and that one already exists and is official.
#We should not put characters into the RGR ''category'' unless we know they are RGRs. That means Toaster should not be categorized as one, at least until all the dust settles in a few months and we all have a much clearer picture of the continuity family.
#The article itself should ''state'' "He may be a RGR". Phrases like "most likely" or "probably" should be avoided. They don't add any meaning and are obviously contentious.
#Derik should stop re-adding the category unless he wants to get a temporary ban over it. Endless reverts against the consensus are uncool, no matter how strongly you feel about it. PacifistPrime's block was over something not much worse than this.
#Anybody who disagrees with any of the above is dumb.
--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:39, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
:Generally speaking, anyone who disagrees with Steve-o is dumb. I tip my king on the issue- for a month until there is a better basis from which to reach an informed consensus. (Until everyone has seen the movie has a basis from which to judge the situation.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:47, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

== Name ==

Actually,he does have an official name. [http://benprocter.com/SITEv2/HTML/ZOOM_Trans/ZOOM_64.html His Designs] refer to him as "Toaster Bot" . I don't think it's worth moving the page,i'll add some redirects instead. [[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 18:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
:And now he's got an upcoming toy named "Ejector"! And... I'm mostly just pointing that out here to see if I can actually edit. Can't log in yet, though.... <--Thylacine 2000.
:::Sweet glory, yes! He's got a toy! A beautiful, beautiful toy![[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 18:36, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
::If what the coloring book suggests is true, then it would stand to reason that Ejector is a different toaster, just as Dispensor is a different Dewbot.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 20:00, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
:::No way. "Ejector" looks identical to "toaster bot" in the ROTF adaptation comic. He looks copied from the character model. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:07, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
::::But he's brought to life by the allspark shard right there. Toaster Bot here is shown to be operating out of the patsy's domicile way before that.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 15:14, 27 May 2009 (EDT)
:::::He's still the same character. The same character can be portrayed differently in different pieces of fiction. (See [[Optimus Prime (G1)]].) Plus, do you know when the commercial happened? Maybe it was in the future! :) - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:40, 27 May 2009 (EDT)

==Plug==
Anybody got a more specific lead on the plug than I do? Am I correctly reading the toy as having the blades angled like [http://www.stayonline.com/reference-nema-straight-blade.aspx NEMA 10] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS_3112 AS 3112], or does he follow all the Dualit toaster photos I've found in [http://www.powercords.co.uk/standard.htm BS 1363]? Is it possible he substitutes AS 3112 for the toaster's BS 1363 to align with China's use of the AS 3112 plugs? --[[Special:Contributions/128.208.43.92|128.208.43.92]] 02:56, 13 August 2009 (EDT)
:If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say he doesn't have a real plug at all. It's made up, to prevent any brilliant youngsters from trying to plug him in. [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 08:55, 13 August 2009 (EDT)
::Now I want to try plugging him in to an AS 3112 and seeing if he fits. Sadly I have neither Ejector nor Australia. --[[Special:Contributions/128.208.43.92|128.208.43.92]] 04:50, 14 August 2009 (EDT)

Ejector

2009-08-13T07:01:32Z

128.208.43.92: /* Revenge of the Fallen */

{{factions|decepticon}}
:''Ejector is an [[Allspark Mutation]] and [[Decepticon]] from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:ToasterBotEjector.jpg|350px|thumb|Howdy-doodley-doo!]]

'''Ejector''' is a<s>n evil</s> mischievous Transformer who can conceal himself in the form of a 4-slot bread searing machine (namely, a toaster). He cannot speak English, but appears to understand it. In toaster mode, he is capable of concealing a small payload within his frame (such as a 20 oz bottle). However, doing so prevents actual toast from being inserted inside of him, and thus partially compromises his disguise.

It is his goal in life to render the world around him blackened and crispy, unpalatable to those living in it no matter the amount of tasty [[jaAm|jam]] they try to apply. A simple goal for a simple machine.

==Fiction==
===''Transformers'' (2007)===

[[Image:Toaster dew.jpg|left|thumb|Transformers 2: Electric Dewgaloo]]

While the Patsy and his other roommates were out, Ejector snuck into the fridge and stole the Patsy's last 20 oz [[Mountain Dew]]. When he returned to find it missing, the Patsy reasoned aloud that the toaster must have taken it to aggravate him in increasingly accusatory tones until his roommates intervened to calm him down—whereupon Ejector transformed behind their backs and performed a taunting "touchdown dance", rubbing himself obscenely against the cool and glistening surface of the Dew bottle while the Patsy shrieked in impotent rage.<ref>The "Toaster" commercial for the "Transform Your Summer" Mountain Dew campaign.</ref>

===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
{{charstubfiction}}

Ejector was brought to life when [[Sam Witwicky]] dropped a piece of the [[All Spark]]. Along with his fellow [[Appliancebot]]s, he tried to attack Sam but was blasted by [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] for his troubles.
{{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
{{storylink|When Robots Attack!}}

==Roommates==
==="The Patsy"===
[[Image:Toaster roommate punkd.jpg|left|thumb|ALL I WANTED WAS A PEPSI!]]
The Patsy knows his toaster is both alive...and evil. He's seen it moving around, causing trouble when no one else is paying attention—but for some reason ''he'' always gets blamed for the toaster's mischief!

The Patsy at least partially doubts his own sanity in the face of the toaster's growing campaign of <s>terror</s> humiliation, and he has begun to construct elaborate logical proofs for Ejector's existence... that fail to convince his roommates, but leave Ejector in stitches.

One of these days, he's going to get that Ejector, yes he will! And ''then'' we'll see who the crazy one around here is! Ha! ''Ha ha ha ha ha...''

{{-}}

===The couch guys===
[[Image:Toaster roommates couch.jpg|thumb|We got the couch, now all we need is to find three girls, and we can start our own show.]]
The Patsy's roommates think he's crazy for projecting all his insecurities and failings onto the toaster. They figure he needs a girlfriend to project his failings and insecurities onto, like a normal guy.

Oh, God, is he yelling again? Yeah, okay, we'll do something about it...as soon as it's a commercial. Well, not if it's one of those delightful Mac/PC ads...
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
*'''Ejector''' (Scout Class, 2009)
[[Image:rotf-ejector-toy-scout.jpg|thumb|right|300px|[[Repurposing|Maybe]] ''[[Shattered Glass]]'' [[Toaster]] someday.]]

:Only one thing is known: based on his stats, he is one brave little toaster. And he turns into a toaster. That alone should make you want him.

:His altmode is patterned on the Dualit toaster, which is quite famous in Britain.<ref>[http://www.oafe.net/yo/tfm2_ejec.php OAFE - Transformers 2: Ejector review]</ref>

:His plug deviates from the Dualit's British standard plug, substituting a style that appears to be modeled after the [http://www.powercords.co.uk/standard.htm AS 3112] standard.

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
*[[Toaster]]

==External links==
* [http://benprocter.com/SITEv2/HTML/ZOOM_Trans/ZOOM_64.html Ejector's character design.]
* [http://pepsi.yahoo.com/transformyoursummer/video.php "Toaster" commercial on the Transform Your Summer website.] ([http://web.archive.org/web//http://pepsi.yahoo.com/transformyoursummer/video.php backup link])

[[Category:Allspark Mutations]]
[[Category:Decepticons]]
[[Category:Movie characters]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]

Talk:Ejector

2009-08-13T06:56:35Z

128.208.43.92: Electrical plug

Anybody got a more specific lead on the plug than I do? Am I correctly reading the toy as having the blades angled like [http://www.stayonline.com/reference-nema-straight-blade.aspx NEMA 10] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS_3112 AS 3112], or does he follow all the Dualit toaster photos I've found in [http://www.powercords.co.uk/standard.htm BS 1363]? Is it possible he substitutes AS 3112 for the toaster's BS 1363 to align with China's use of the AS 3112 plugs? --[[Special:Contributions/128.208.43.92|128.208.43.92]] 02:56, 13 August 2009 (EDT)

I can't tell you how glorious it is that we have to disambiguate "Toaster" on this wiki.--[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 22:08, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:It made my morning. I went to check something on the MD website and-- "wait,t here's a new commercial? With ''more'' new characters?" -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Realgear or not realgear that's the question. ==

What differs between Toaster and Frenzy that make one a Real Gear, and the other not. Or has frenzy to be classified a Real Gear too? Or is Toaster in fact not a Real Gear? The debate is now open!

:Frenzy? Frenzy is a Decepticon from Cybertron. Real Gear Robots are Earth machines brought to life by the Allspark. I don't think Toaster belong in the RGR category, though. Even though I'd say it's likely that he ''is'' an Earth machine brought to life by the Allsaprk, we should only use the RGR category for the toyline. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 01:16, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

:Real Gear, for reasons previously stated on the [[Talk:Real Gear Robot]] page.
:Hardcore movie spoilers (i.e. reading the novelization) present a clearer picture why than readily apparent from the Real Gear Robots toy bio. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
::Since the number of people who are willing to spoil themselves just to check your work is going to be extremely limited, I'm not really okay with you having free reign over stuff like this for a month while we wait for the movie to come out so we can edit out all the Derik. I say put the novelization aside for now. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Hrm... how to argue this without movie spoilers then...
:::Fine, I substitute the Real Gear Robot [[AX9-8946-09SU-1]] from the Sector 7 ARG (the one who killed [[James Farr]]) as a non-spoilery example of the phenomena. Unliving Earth hardware animated by the Allspark starts out as a feral killing machine. Toaster is thus one step along the path from AX9-8946-09SU-1 to the fully-mature, individualized RGR toy characters. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

::::Why must it be argued immediately? Can we not completely ignore the novelization and adaptation comic until the movie comes out, and only use other sources, such as the toyline, until then? If we end up wrong, then we can fix it when it's appropriate. Such is the way of a "living" resource. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 01:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

::::I would add "how do you know for a fact that Toaster was born on Earth, Derik?", seeing as [[Toaster|G1 Toaster]] was from Cybertron, but I don't want to see another string of spoilers added to this page. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 01:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I have been thinking along the lines of: While all "Real Gear Robots" are Earth machines brought to life by the Allpsark, not all Earth machines brought to life by the Allspark are necessarily "Real Gear Robots." That we should only label as Real Gears things that actually, officially have that label. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 01:27, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
:I understand that is your perspective, but the ''definition'' of RGR's given for the line is 'Machines animated by the Allspark.' '''minor''' spoiler below.
:In the movie we will (apparently) see a cell phone animated by the allspark. It is demonstrably not [[Speed Dial 800]]. But is SD800 ''is'' a RGR... why the hell isn't Unnamed Cell Phone #2 a RGR? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:35, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Various points:
#Unless there is another convenient term for "Earth machines brought to life by the AllSpark", I strongly disagree with restricting use of the term "Real Gear Robots" only to characters from the toyline. We need a term for it, and that one already exists and is official.
#We should not put characters into the RGR ''category'' unless we know they are RGRs. That means Toaster should not be categorized as one, at least until all the dust settles in a few months and we all have a much clearer picture of the continuity family.
#The article itself should ''state'' "He may be a RGR". Phrases like "most likely" or "probably" should be avoided. They don't add any meaning and are obviously contentious.
#Derik should stop re-adding the category unless he wants to get a temporary ban over it. Endless reverts against the consensus are uncool, no matter how strongly you feel about it. PacifistPrime's block was over something not much worse than this.
#Anybody who disagrees with any of the above is dumb.
--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:39, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
:Generally speaking, anyone who disagrees with Steve-o is dumb. I tip my king on the issue- for a month until there is a better basis from which to reach an informed consensus. (Until everyone has seen the movie has a basis from which to judge the situation.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:47, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

== Name ==

Actually,he does have an official name. [http://benprocter.com/SITEv2/HTML/ZOOM_Trans/ZOOM_64.html His Designs] refer to him as "Toaster Bot" . I don't think it's worth moving the page,i'll add some redirects instead. [[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 18:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
:And now he's got an upcoming toy named "Ejector"! And... I'm mostly just pointing that out here to see if I can actually edit. Can't log in yet, though.... <--Thylacine 2000.
:::Sweet glory, yes! He's got a toy! A beautiful, beautiful toy![[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 18:36, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
::If what the coloring book suggests is true, then it would stand to reason that Ejector is a different toaster, just as Dispensor is a different Dewbot.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 20:00, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
:::No way. "Ejector" looks identical to "toaster bot" in the ROTF adaptation comic. He looks copied from the character model. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:07, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
::::But he's brought to life by the allspark shard right there. Toaster Bot here is shown to be operating out of the patsy's domicile way before that.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 15:14, 27 May 2009 (EDT)
:::::He's still the same character. The same character can be portrayed differently in different pieces of fiction. (See [[Optimus Prime (G1)]].) Plus, do you know when the commercial happened? Maybe it was in the future! :) - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:40, 27 May 2009 (EDT)

Ejector

2009-08-13T06:42:42Z

128.208.43.92: /* Revenge of the Fallen */

{{factions|decepticon}}
:''Ejector is an [[Allspark Mutation]] and [[Decepticon]] from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:ToasterBotEjector.jpg|350px|thumb|Howdy-doodley-doo!]]

'''Ejector''' is a<s>n evil</s> mischievous Transformer who can conceal himself in the form of a 4-slot bread searing machine (namely, a toaster). He cannot speak English, but appears to understand it. In toaster mode, he is capable of concealing a small payload within his frame (such as a 20 oz bottle). However, doing so prevents actual toast from being inserted inside of him, and thus partially compromises his disguise.

It is his goal in life to render the world around him blackened and crispy, unpalatable to those living in it no matter the amount of tasty [[jaAm|jam]] they try to apply. A simple goal for a simple machine.

==Fiction==
===''Transformers'' (2007)===

[[Image:Toaster dew.jpg|left|thumb|Transformers 2: Electric Dewgaloo]]

While the Patsy and his other roommates were out, Ejector snuck into the fridge and stole the Patsy's last 20 oz [[Mountain Dew]]. When he returned to find it missing, the Patsy reasoned aloud that the toaster must have taken it to aggravate him in increasingly accusatory tones until his roommates intervened to calm him down—whereupon Ejector transformed behind their backs and performed a taunting "touchdown dance", rubbing himself obscenely against the cool and glistening surface of the Dew bottle while the Patsy shrieked in impotent rage.<ref>The "Toaster" commercial for the "Transform Your Summer" Mountain Dew campaign.</ref>

===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
{{charstubfiction}}

Ejector was brought to life when [[Sam Witwicky]] dropped a piece of the [[All Spark]]. Along with his fellow [[Appliancebot]]s, he tried to attack Sam but was blasted by [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] for his troubles.
{{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
{{storylink|When Robots Attack!}}

==Roommates==
==="The Patsy"===
[[Image:Toaster roommate punkd.jpg|left|thumb|ALL I WANTED WAS A PEPSI!]]
The Patsy knows his toaster is both alive...and evil. He's seen it moving around, causing trouble when no one else is paying attention—but for some reason ''he'' always gets blamed for the toaster's mischief!

The Patsy at least partially doubts his own sanity in the face of the toaster's growing campaign of <s>terror</s> humiliation, and he has begun to construct elaborate logical proofs for Ejector's existence... that fail to convince his roommates, but leave Ejector in stitches.

One of these days, he's going to get that Ejector, yes he will! And ''then'' we'll see who the crazy one around here is! Ha! ''Ha ha ha ha ha...''

{{-}}

===The couch guys===
[[Image:Toaster roommates couch.jpg|thumb|We got the couch, now all we need is to find three girls, and we can start our own show.]]
The Patsy's roommates think he's crazy for projecting all his insecurities and failings onto the toaster. They figure he needs a girlfriend to project his failings and insecurities onto, like a normal guy.

Oh, God, is he yelling again? Yeah, okay, we'll do something about it...as soon as it's a commercial. Well, not if it's one of those delightful Mac/PC ads...
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
*'''Ejector''' (Scout Class, 2009)
[[Image:rotf-ejector-toy-scout.jpg|thumb|right|300px|[[Repurposing|Maybe]] ''[[Shattered Glass]]'' [[Toaster]] someday.]]

:Only one thing is known: based on his stats, he is one brave little toaster. And he turns into a toaster. That alone should make you want him.

:His altmode is patterned on the Dualit toaster, which is quite famous in Britain.<ref>[http://www.oafe.net/yo/tfm2_ejec.php OAFE - Transformers 2: Ejector review]</ref> Ejector's plug follows the Dualit in a style that [http://www.stayonline.com/reference-nema-straight-blade.aspx appears to be] the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEMA_connector#NEMA_10 NEMA 10 standard].

==References==
<references/>

==See also==
*[[Toaster]]

==External links==
* [http://benprocter.com/SITEv2/HTML/ZOOM_Trans/ZOOM_64.html Ejector's character design.]
* [http://pepsi.yahoo.com/transformyoursummer/video.php "Toaster" commercial on the Transform Your Summer website.] ([http://web.archive.org/web//http://pepsi.yahoo.com/transformyoursummer/video.php backup link])

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[[Category:Movie characters]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]