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Overload (ROTF)

2009-09-18T09:17:44Z

137.195.68.169: /* Notes */

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{{disambig3|Overload}}

:''Overload is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Overload-RiseoftheDecepticons.jpg|right|thumb|300px|This may be the only time you ever see me in robot mode!]]

'''Overload''' sometimes combines with his fellow [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicons]] to form [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]]. His earth form is a modified red Komatsu HD465-7 articulated dump truck. And no, he's not [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]].

==Fiction==
===''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===
During the climactic battle in [[Egypt]] between the Autobots, their human allies and [[The Fallen]]'s Decepticons, Overload arrived in a quarry with the other Constructicons before merging into Devastator to attack former [[Sector Seven]] agent [[Seymour Simmons]], [[Leo Spitz]], [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]. Later, as Devastator smashed away at the [[Great Pyramid of Giza]] after shrugging off Skids and Mudflap, Simmons called upon the [[United States Navy]] to fire upon the giant Decepticon. The [[United States Navy#U.S.S. Kidd (DDG-100)|U.S.S. ''Kidd'']] fired her experimental [[Wikipedia:Railgun|railgun]], smashing one of his arms to pieces and destroying Devastator. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:ROTF Overload Legends toy.jpg|right|thumb|250px|But he ''does'' hate that you think he's Bonecrusher.]]
*'''Decepticon Overload''' (Legends, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D1'''

:Overload and the six other Legends class Constructicons combine to form Devastator. In Japan, the Legends class Constructicons are sold individually. He transforms into a articulated dump truck. He forms the lower torso/crotch of Devastator.

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*'''Constructicon Devastator''' (Legends figure multi-pack, 2010)

:In [[Hasbro]]'s markets the Legends Constructicons are sold together as a store exclusive.
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==Merchandise==
===Robot Heroes===
*'''Desert Devastation''' (Multi-pack, 2009)

[[Image:rotf_desertdevastation_rh.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Thrusty!]]

:Overload is the sculpted crotch of "Desert Devastation" Devastator, a super-sized ''[[Robot Heroes]]'' figure. He is only available in a multi-pack with [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] in their vehicle modes and [[William Lennox]].

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==Notes==
* Like several recent Japanese ''Transformers'' toys, [[TakaraTomy]] has incorporated Overload's faction with his name in an effort to strengthen his [[trademark]]. Hasbro, however, has not had such problems to date with the name [[Overload (disambiguation)|Overload]] in their markets.
* Being the seventh Constructicon, Overload technically hasn't got a G1 counterpart, but he is a (albeit articulated) [[Long Haul (G1)|dump truck that forms Devastator's lower torso]].
* One of [[Ben Procter]]'s concept art studies for Overload's robot mode is a monstrous - and awesome - four-armed quadruped with claws and hooks up the ying-yang. [http://conceptartworld.com/?p=2772]

[[Category:Constructicons]]
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[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]

Talk:Devastator (ROTF)

2009-09-18T09:08:49Z

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== Seven vehicles ==
Paramount listing mention 7 constructicons vehicles, Overload is the not-mentioned-before seventh one:
http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/04/01/tranformers-2-robots-announced/ --[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 17:33, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
:Can we put somewhere on this page a link to either the seven Constructicons or the group page?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 14:04, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

: A leaked image of legends class construction group even cofirms it...and might i add that they actualy combine into devastator?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 05:47, 12 May 2009 (EDT)
::Not to us though. You just said a ''leaked'' image of the Constructicons, we only use ''confirmed'' news about this stuff (Hasbro, Wal-Mart, Target, etc.). Until then, Devastator only has six components.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 10:51, 12 May 2009 (EDT)
:::I withdraw my previous statement.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 10:57, 12 May 2009 (EDT)

Was the Paramount listing officially released? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 10:54, 12 May 2009 (EDT)
: Yes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:06, 12 May 2009 (EDT)

I gather [http://tformers.com/transformers-takara-announces-revenge-of-the-fallen-transformable-legends-devastator-combiner/11492/news.html Takara] has an upcoming toy that makes the whole thing ''much'' clearer.

Can someone who is ''not'' me use this to add altmodes to the list of names? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:56, 12 May 2009 (EDT)

* 2010 for Legends class? Say it ain't so! [[Special:Contributions/82.41.72.10|82.41.72.10]] 18:42, 13 June 2009 (EDT)

Should Devastator's various toy descriptions be revised? Majorish spoilers: In the film, there are at least two sets of constructicons, as they appear both as induviduals and as Devastator simultaniously, or else shown to be incapacitated to such a degree that the could not be a part of him. More importantly, the ones that form Devastator are not shown to have robot modes of their own.(although the supreme toy is still inacurate since Overload's vehicle is a clear part of Devastator) The acuracy of the figures should not have been brought into question before there was something to compare them to. Simple as that.[[User:Thelastallosaur|Thelastallosaur]] 18:38, 20 June 2009 (ED

In what stores will Legends Devastator be available in the US? [[Special:Contributions/205.188.117.8|205.188.117.8]] 17:43, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

;Another interview
Micheal Bay confirmed that Devastator is combined from seven vehicles. And, seems each individual is able to transform (Oh...) just like the Legends class. ''Argh''.
http://www.michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/9f78f1359c3d0e8c32795a6033cceab2-551.html
:''In the final cut, much of that scene is dominated by CG-animated alien robots, including Devastator — ''the new villain made out of seven individual robots'' who hide in the form of construction equipment. But the flesh-and-blood actors also got to romp on the pyramids.''
--'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 03:28, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
::That article was written for ''USA Today'', it is not a quote from Bay, and as the film shows, Devy is made of more than seven vehicles, his right hand is separate from his arm, plus there's a blue and yellow dump truck that shows up above the pit he combines in. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 19:04, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

==Blind packaged?==
Where has it been stated that the EZ Constructicons would be blind-packed in Japan? The other EZ guys are, but that seems to be a different assortment to the Constructicons, who were shown in US Legends-like packaging once at some show, and at least HLJ is selling them separately. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 12:15, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
:They will be blind packed as it would be seriously stupid to sell them so you know exactly what you get when each case contains a case figure. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 12:28, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
::In what sense is it "seriously stupid"? It's logical, and perhaps inevitable, given that the rest of the EZ Collection are blind-packed, but it's not a dumb question for Mazenoise to ask. Devastator's a combiner. Even non-collectors are going to want to catch them all in that instance. If they're blind-packed, that's going to be a nightmare. (I'm still figuring the number of packs you'd need to buy to get even a 50/50 chance of completing the set.) Of course, given the relative crappiness of some of the Legends Constructicons, if they're not blind packed then the distribution will shift in favour of pegwarmers over time, which would ''also'' be unfavourable for people trying to complete the set. [[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 07:11, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
:::I meant it would be stupid if they weren't blind packed as that way you would know what you get so you could easily pick the rare case figure. And these aren't part of the normal EZ collection but of a special Devastator set, each case contains 3.5 Devastators and a case figure.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 09:20, 5 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Ah, got you, I misunderstood you. So we're on the same page then. [[Special:Contributions/82.41.72.10|82.41.72.10]] 10:35, 5 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::So turns out their not blindpacked. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 08:06, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::Everyone's a winner! [[Special:Contributions/82.41.72.10|82.41.72.10]] 18:19, 6 July 2009 (EDT)

== Voiced? ==

Unless I missed something else the second time I watched the movie, that is not Devastator speaking, it is Megatron announcing/shouting to him. So Devastator doesn't speak, just roars.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 17:55, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
:Welker often does... less verbose critters, where he just growls or makes animal sounds. There's a few he's even famous for.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:59, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
::I think he voised him in the game and the voise-box of the toy.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 08:25, 4 July 2009 (EDT)

== Film-specific transformation? ==

Okay, I know the toys can only approximate the live-action design, but Devastator's combination doesn't seem to be at all consistent. To ''start'' with, the shots of the construction vehicles arriving in the canyon are off; Scrapper and Hightower are on Mixmaster's right and Overload's on his left, with Scavenger behind the other vehicles, and Rampage and Long Haul on a higher-level cliff edge. When the combination starts, however, Scrapper's on the left of Scavenger, Mixmaster is in front of the others and Overload seems to have completely disappeared. Maybe the big D ''is'' a six-Con combiner after all?

It gets worse when, from what I can tell, Rampage (who's actually on ground level along with Long Haul) apparently gets picked up by Hightower to become D's ''left hand''. What the hell forms the left leg, then? Did Overload switch jobs and colour scheme when nobody was looking? I'd seriously appreciate some help in a consensus on what happened. [[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 07:51, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
::It all just got swallowed into a writhing mass of metal, and reemerged where it should have been all along, apparently.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 20:22, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
:Yes, the set-up scene with the vehicles driving up was wrong, but set that aside. Overload does not, in any way, form part of Devastator! Rampage transforms wrong, he transforms like Scavenger, with his scoop breaking into three pieces. Devastator's left arm (which already has Hightower attached) slams down on top of Rampage to form... a longer arm. You also don't see Long Haul actually attach to Devastator, but he does begin his transformation sequence. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 23:58, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

== Non-individual transformation ==

I've read the Battle bio, but I haven't read the Movie Universe Ultimate Guide. I'd like to know what is written about Devastator's entry in the book because I think "In the film, none of the components of Devastator are shown as individual Transformers. This would justify why the components of the Constructicon Devastator playset to have no individual humanoid modes" is still notable. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 22:08, 22 July 2009 (EDT)
:"Did you know? ... The individual intellects of the six Constructicons are largely lost during the combination process." [http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2009/07/ask-orci-final-edition.html Roberto Orci was also asked about it] and said, "I suppose since we didn't commit either way, I wouldn't want to tie the hands of future writers with my non-canon opinion." So the writers didn't commit either way, which means the work of "future writers" settles the matter. So far that means the battle bio and The Movie Universe. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:22, 22 July 2009 (EDT)

::So it seems safe to add back only "In the film, none of Devastator's components are shown as individual Transformers. This would(might) justify why the components of his Supereme class toy to have no individual humanoid modes.", since the note doesn't mention any speculation whether Devastator is not a combiner or any suggestion which contradicts to the bio. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 08:39, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

== Wrecking balls? ==

Those are overhaul balls! The one had a hook on it. That's a major clue, because a hook on a wrecking ball would quickly become scrap.

They're not for demolition; they're to make sure the relatively light hook goes down smoothly when lowered.

== Two Rampages form Devastator? ==

That is a good catch if it is true. I didn't notice. Can it be confirmed that two Rampages formed Devastator in the film? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:59, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:And what is Overload's bullet? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:01, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::Overload's bullet specifies that it's not always a part of Devastator in every medium. If the twin Rampage thing turns out to be true ''for the movie'', it needs to have the same qualification to it.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 23:10, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:Don't know how canonical it is, but one of Devastator's promotional art pieces (http://idigitalcitizen.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/1440x960-devastator-specs.jpg) definitely has two sets of treads in the left leg - one as the foot, one up in the knee, and comparing the size of the treads to the leg itself it'd need two Rampages to have that much mass. I haven't seen a good enough shot of his leg in any other media to confirm this. Should it be three, though? It definitely seemed like a third Rampage became the left hand. [[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 18:56, 4 August 2009 (EDT)
::That same piece of art labels the left leg as "Rampage component" (singular). I'm not sure who originally wrote that there were two Rampages or why, but I think it is because in the movie Transformation sequence Rampage forms part of the left arm along with Hightower. It is not shown where Devastator gets his left leg but presumably it is (also) Rampage. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:27, 4 August 2009 (EDT)
:That bit for the knee doesn't look like the same kind of tread, though. It could be an unwrapped wheel, like with Scrapper.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 23:46, 4 August 2009 (EDT)

== Supreme Class Constructicon Devastator==
The second Supreme Class Devastator is impossible to find information about online. Does anyone know if this is a toy that is going to be released, or has it already been out? It looks like it is made up of the Legends Class figures, so does one have to buy all of the Legend Class vehicles to make Devastator? [[User:Fergalicious|Fergalicious]] 01:53, 9 August 2009 (EDT)
:Um, what second Supreme Class Devastator?[[Special:Contributions/82.41.72.10|82.41.72.10]] 18:17, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
::I know what Fergalicious means. It's not a Supreme Class, it's just made of the Legends Constructicons. The size is really closer a Deluxe, if I'm right. [[User:Fallen13|Fallen13]] 20:02, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
::: Oh, right, the Legends ones. Yeah, it's out in Japan as a selection of EZ Collection Constructicons which you can collect and combine, but Hasbro's suggested that it'll bring them to the US (at the very least) as a store exclusive next year, containing all 7 Constructicons. [[Special:Contributions/82.41.72.10|82.41.72.10]] 17:49, 7 September 2009 (EDT)

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Springer (ROTF)

2009-09-18T09:06:36Z

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{{factions|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Springer}}
:''Springer is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:ROTFtoy-SpringerLegends.jpg|right|thumb|300px|I've got better things to do tonight than appear in the actual movie!]]

In a fight '''Springer''' has formidable brute force he can rely on, which is good, since he is not one of the more skillful bots. Even so, he is smart, but has only rose to be a middle of the Autobot ranks.

==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Legends Class Toys====
*'''Autobot Springer''' (Legends Class, 2009)

:Springer is an olive drab and dark gray V-22 Osprey. He has 5PR1N63R printed on the tops of his wings. His twin engines do not pivot upward like a real Osprey, but the propellers themselves can be rotated to approximate VTOL. He has one degree of freedom each at the wrist, elbow, shoulder, and ankle, but his hips are ball-jointed. In a surprising bit of attention to detail, the port and starboard rotors have opposite "handedness", just like a real aircraft.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/Springer/springer.htm More information on Springer at TFU.info]''
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==Merchandise==
===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Robotheroesspringerstarscream.jpg|right|thumb|300px|I'm in the first wave! I must be important!]]
*'''Autobot Springer and Starscream''' (2009)
: Springer is part of the first wave of ''[[Revenge of the Fallen]]'' ''[[Robot Heroes]]'' figures and is packaged versus [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]. He has articulation at both shoulders.
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==Notes==
* According to [[Hasbro]]'s Saturday panel at [[BotCon 2009]], Springer was to be an on-screen character in ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', but was later dropped. [[Ben Procter]] designed his robot mode<ref name="procter">[http://conceptartworld.com/?p=2772 Ben Procter's concept designs for ROTF]</ref>, which also strongly influenced [[Alex Milne]]'s design for [[Incinerator (Movie)|Incinerator]] (another Osprey Transformer) in [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Alliance (comic)|Alliance]]'' comic.
* Springer is the ''third'' Osprey Transformer in the movieverse, the other two being [[Incinerator (Movie)|Incinerator]] and [[Ruination (ROTF)|Ruination]]. (Only three Osprey helicopters were part of the [[United States Air Force]] inventory at the time of the first film's release, two of them appearing in the film itself. As of May 2009, there's four of 'em...but the [[United States Marine Corps|Marines]] have, like, 150 of 'em.)
* Given that the real Osprey is 60ft long, Springer (like most aircraft Transformers) would be rather large if [[scale]] was attended to. He's actually in pretty good scale with the Legends version of [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]]. Yet his only toys are in the smallest size classes.
* Springer's movie robot mode (then simply referred to as "Osprey") was designed by [[Ben Procter]]. [http://conceptartworld.com/?p=2772]

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Camshaft (Movie)

2009-08-17T15:44:59Z

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{{disambig3|Camshaft}}
:''Camshaft is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|2007 movie franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:ReignofStarscream3 Camshaft.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"Alright, I'm in the comics! I hope I get a long run-"]]
When you need a planet surveyed, but the conditions are too hostile even for [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], '''Camshaft'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s your bot. He and his team are often the first ones into a dangerous planet. Thanks to his [[All Spark]]-enhanced adaptive armor and silent-but-deadly weapons systems, Camshaft is well-equipped to deal with harsh environments and [[Decepticon]]s alike.

==Fiction==
===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
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{{storylink|Defiance issue 2}} {{storylink|Defiance issue 3}} {{storylink|Defiance issue 4}}

[[Image:ReignofStarscream3 Camshaft dies.jpg|left|300px|thumb|"-oh bloody buggering hell."]]

Following the defeat of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], Camshaft was part of a small Autobot unit led by [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] that tracked [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], now the leader of the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]], to his base on [[Mars]]. {{storylink|The Reign of Starscream issue 2|The Reign of Starscream #2}} Camshaft and the others made short work of the [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]], [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]], and [[Payload (Movie)|Payload]] drones that Thundercracker sent against them, but were unprepared for [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]]'s sonic weaponry. The shaken Camshaft and [[Cliffjumper (Movie)|Cliffjumper]] attempted to provide cover for [[Smokescreen (Movie)|Smokescreen]] to evacuate the fallen [[Air Raid (Movie)|Air Raid]], but the massive Decepticon sliced Camshaft in half, killing him. {{storylink|The Reign of Starscream issue 3|The Reign of Starscream #3}}
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===Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comics===
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[[Image:CamshaftandcoTitan17.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Camshaft's ability to remember simple numbers makes him the boss.]]
Camshaft and his team of specialists were called in to investigate [[Earth]]'s corruption by the All Spark, and also ended up trying to save people and limit the damage at multiple crisis points. For some reason, Optimus keeps saying [[Evac (Movie)|Evac]] leads the team despite Camshaft doing all the leader stuff.

A raw [[Energon (fuel)|energon]] gusher in the middle of a swimming pool didn't phase Camshaft, as he quickly and decisively directed his men and quickly improvised when they ran out of [[Magna-cap|magna-caps]]. The increasing escalation of the disasters and the constant work is worrying him though. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 17|Return to Cybertron: Part 1}}

He was rather worried that Optimus' plan for Earth was to use [[Nucleon]], stating the substance could blow Earth up just as easily as saving it. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 18|Return to Cybertron: Part 2}}

Camshaft's team played a key role in saving [[Mikaela Banes]], rapidly assembling a jammer array to free her from Decepticon mind-control. Camshaft also let Evac be in charge this one time, cos he's nice. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 22|The Decepticon Who Haunted Himself}}

==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
[[Image:Movie Camshaft toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Can you dig it?]]
*'''Autobot Camshaft''' (Deluxe, 2008)

: Released as part of the ''AllSpark Power'' refresh of the [[Movie (toyline)|live-action movie toyline]], Camshaft is a Autobot-aligned [[redeco]] of [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]]. Camshaft transforms into a car incredibly similar to but legally distinct from a [[General Motors|Chevrolet]] Cobalt, coloured silver with a black hood and roof (giving him a striking similarity to [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[Bluestreak]]'s animation model).

:During transformation, his [[Automorph|Automorphing]] gimmick flips out his head/chest section on its own from his upper torso. His head can barely move in robot mode, but a modification may be done by the owner to increase its range of motion. His torso also features a spring-loaded cannon that extends when a button on his back is pressed, and the cannon structure itself can be extended from the torso to give a more impressive appearance. This cannon gimmick can also be used in car mode, where it looks like a super-turbo-nitro exhaust pipe.

:Because Camshaft is a redeco of Swindle, he has the Decepticon camera-lens style head instead of the usual Autobot drone faceplate head. Just like Swindle, when detached, his hands fit in the space between [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream's]] cannons.

: To this day, [[Shelfwarmer|you can find hundreds of him just about everywhere]]. Such is his ubiquity that he has begun to quantum-mechanically tunnel into [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/rotf-leader-megatron-and-optimus-prime-now-with-camshaft/16756/ other products' packages]. Perhaps someone in Hasbro added an extra "zero" to the order.

==Trivia==
* The body design is based on the "Tricked-Out Car" body of the [[Create-A-Bot (Autobot)|Create-A-Bots]]. The wine-colored robot-mode parts also give it a feel similar to the Autobot [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle units]], of which Camshaft is a redeco.
* In his fictional appearances, Camshaft is given a slight distinction in appearance from Swindle and his drones by having slightly different 'crown' features around his optic, as well as fingers being seemingly blunter and less like claws than Swindle's.

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/Camshaft/camshaft.htm Camshaft at TFU.info]

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Talk:Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)

2009-07-23T13:46:53Z

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==CR vs MB==
That section sure is... black and white. There are a lot of other reasons Beast Machines went the way of eek, but they're not addressed here. (For example, the final folding of Kenner into Hasbro.) Also, ''all'' US fans rejoiced when RiD was announced? Like hell. Scores of people were pissed that now everything they imported for twice US retail was now going to be brought over domestically. Another group of peoplwere were pissed it was nothing but "repaints" for a year. And then they were pissed even more when the cartoon turned out to be not exactly Babylon Five. "The US fandom rejoiced" is way oversimplified. I think that section needs some heavy moderation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:24, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

== RID rox, BM sux!!!1 ==

"Many fans were paying hand over foot for imports of the Japanese line, all the while complaining about the poor quality of the Beast Machines line and show"

"Couple that with an all new 10-changer, Beast oriented, Gigatron and you had the making of the first new millenium Transformers series, one that combined the best from everything before it into one."

I think those two statements of opinion also need to be edited or eliminated.

[[User:Shellspark|Shellspark]] 16:49, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

:Indeed. The fandom complaining about the quality of the current line and buying imports from Japan is not a phenomenon exclusive to Beast Machines. It is merely the status quo. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:52, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
:It seems that most of the opinion-laden statements were made by a single anonymous poster. I'd actually advocate just reverting back to MSipher's last version.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 17:01, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

=="yuk yuks"==
I edited out the part that said the DVDs don't play in "real DVD players". Some of these jokes are dumb and misleading. I'm all for fun, but why litter this encyclopedia with it? It there a rule with this wiki that says writers have to put jokes in? [[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 14:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

:Crockalley -- actually, yes. It's unwritten but it's the way things are done around here, especially in photo captions. Take out the funny and we've got nothing over any other TF resource. Well, we do tend to specialize in absolutely obscure [[Arcana|arcana]] too. But seriously, read the wiki for a while to get the feel for the place; you'll find that the jokes don't interfere--there's simply so much built-in ludicrousness in the Transformers universe/fiction/toyline! And sure, some jokes are nerdy. Learn to embrace your inner nerd. :) One of us...One of us... But it's also true that it must be possible to distinguish a joke from legit info, so you do have be somewhat careful. [[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 14:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

::Then you might want to change this page [[Introduction]]
::"Teletraan-1 does not contain opinionated reviews, only facts."
::I'm not going to run around making wild changes here, but this humorous slant goes against my understanding of what a wiki should be. Plus I'm grumpy this morning. Sorry. Gooble gobble [[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 14:59, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

:::Eh, i wrote the 'real dvd players' crack, I expected someoen (probably McFeely) would remove it. It was a gentle poke at Region-2, nto really much of a tf joke at all. I shall not mixx it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Personally, I contemplated replacing it with "lame Yank DVD players," but I thought yours was funnier. :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I object to Autobus Prime's assertions on the purpose of region encoding. IIt has nothign to do with piracy, it has everythign to do with allowing copyright holders to sell the rights multiple times.
(This is, mind a good thing. If the regions were not broken down, a production company wishing to produce a version of The Soudn of Music subbed in, say, Tagalog, would have to purchae worldwide rights to do so, which is ten kinds of stupid. Breaking the rights down into smaller regional chunks makes those rights affortable for amll markets-- an overall benefit to customers.)
I admit I find region encoding aannoyign as hell, but there's also clear benefits to it. (I try not to hold unconsidered opinions.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:15, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

==Sideways==
Curiosity: How does "Takara asserts that CR is RID" connect to "RID Sideways is UT Sideways"? I'm not doubting that they are the same character, I just don't understand what Takara has to do with it. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 00:59, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Takara produced some nifty bio's for their Robotmasters characters, saying both who they are, and where they first appeared. Robotmasters Doubleface said he was ARM Doubleface- and listed his first appearance as Car Robots. This is a reference to RiD sideways. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:03, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, thank you. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 12:30, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

== Logo placement ==

I'm fine if everyone likes this better than the last way, but I think the big white space above the reletively small logo is really rather ugly and awkward looking. At least with the logo off to the left we loose the big white nothing at the top and things are symetrical. Anyone have any other ideas to make things work better?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 15:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

:Big... white space? Oh, DEAR GOD... I just tried my version in MSIE and can now see what you are complaining about. I don't know what the hell IE is doing, but my other browsers don't have that gap:
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/5183/clipboard1qj0.jpg
Also I didn't realize the nav tables have horrible white gaps between cells in IE. These are both style issues that I guess I'll try to fix that at some point... although Derik is more capable than I at that sort of thing. Maybe he can fix it. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:03, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:I'm confused about what exactly people are objecting to. (I'm also confused as to why those blank lines were inserted after the logo.) I do see the table problem though- THAT is hard to miss.
:Can I get a comparative IE/Firefox screencap so I can see exactly what you mean? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:32, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
::[http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/5183/clipboard1qj0.jpg Original picture] (from Opera, I think, but it's almost identical in Firefox), and [http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/5872/clipboard2do6.jpg IE picture]. Those are of the same revision (although one was on a diff page and the other was just the old version page, hence the different headers before the page content starts). [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Robots_in_Disguise&oldid=76185 This is that revision] in case you want to test with it. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:45, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

== Firewall's mug ==
...Wait, what? I realize that it's TFW2005's logo, but their logo is RID Prime's phiz. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 04:34, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
:More or less. TFW2005's pic changes the antennaes into giant headphones with tiny silver antennas coming out the sides. Firewall's mug, though, totally shows Fire Convoy, as evidenced by the fact the he has Fire Convoy's antennas and not TFW2005 Guy's headset. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:18, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::RiD Prime's head does NOT have the cylindrical "ear muffs" + separate antenna rods that either the TFW2005 logo or that mug have. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:51, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::[[Image:Primetfw2005.jpg]]
:::Well it's got yellow eyes like Fire Convoy, and while it has the earmuffs everything else about it is Fire Convoy. And those antenna rods are too big to be those tiny silver ones on TFW2005 Bot... And he also lacks the wraparound piece going around its head. Hence it looks more like Fire Convoy than it does TFW2005 Bot. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:07, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::I ''really'' disagree that it looks more like Fire Convoy than TFW2005 Bot. It's the TFW2005 logo doodled at extremely small size on a tiny mug, where putting in the details you claim aren't there would be ridiculous. And even at that scale, the ears are ''completely different'' from Fire Convoy. Claiming Firewall has a RiD Prime mug on this page is irresponsible. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:38, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
::::For me, I would just say that "There is a head looks like a miscolored head of Fire Convoy on the cup." instead of "There is a head of Fire Convoy on the mug cup." due to the difference between ''the Head'' and ''Fire Convoy'' in order to reduce different opinions, unless the artist of the picture say "It is Fire Convoy's head" some day. --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 06:20, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

==Inadvertently==

''"The series dub was inadvertently bought by Disney in 2002."''

I know that those sorts of things happen sometimes in the world of insanely large companies, but this needs some elaboration. Did Hasbro accidentally sell the dub to Disney, or did Disney accidentally buy it? [[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 09:46, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

United States of America

2009-07-21T11:40:55Z

137.195.68.169: Immigration is the right of all sentient beings with a green card

[[Image:OptimusUSA1.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"GIVE ME YOUR tired, your poor..."]]
The '''United States of America''' is a nation-state on the planet [[Earth]]. It is considered to be one of the world's two "superpowers," along with its rival, the [[Soviet Union]]. The American government is headed by a [[President of the United States|president]]. Interaction between that government and Transformers operating on Earth is a near inevitability in most dimensions of the multiverse, although whether that relationship is friendly, adversarial, or somewhere in between varies.

:''Japanese name:'' '''America Gasshūkoku''' (アメリカ合衆国)

==States==
The United States of America consists of 50 "states", plus various territories, special districts, protectorates, hangers-on, puppet dictatorships and an astonishing number of [[wikipedia:Banana_republic|Banana republics]].

Unlike Cybertronian [[City-state|City-states]], the divisions of the United States are semi-independent administrative zones existing under an umbrella government, which may in turn have smaller cities ''within'' them, which may in turn contain "boroughs" (a sort of township), populated by very tiny humans.

{{collist|4|
* [[Alabama]]
* [[Alaska]]
* [[Arizona]]
* [[Arkansas]]
* [[California]]
* [[Colorado]]
* [[Delaware]]
* [[Florida]]
* [[Georgia]]
* [[Hawaii]]
* [[Idaho]]
* [[Illinois]]
* [[Indiana]]
* [[Iowa]]
* [[Kansas]]
* [[Kentucky]]
* [[Louisiana]]
* [[Maryland]]
** [[District of Columbia]]
* [[Michigan]]
* [[Minnesota]]
* [[Mississippi]]
* [[Missouri]]
* [[Montana]]
* [[Nebraska]]
* [[Nevada]]
* [[New England]]
** [[Connecticut]]
** [[Maine]]
** [[Massachusetts]]
** [[New Hampshire]]
** [[Rhode Island]]
** [[Vermont]]
* [[New Jersey]]
* [[New Mexico]]
* [[New York (state)|New York]]
** [[New York City]]
* [[North Carolina]]
* [[North Dakota]]
* [[North Takoma]]
* [[Ohio]]
* [[Oklahoma]]
* [[Oregon]]
* [[Pennsylvania]]
* [[South Carolina]]
* [[South Dakota]]
* [[Tennessee]]
* [[Texas]]
* [[Utah]]
* [[Virginia]]
* [[Washington]]
* [[West Virginia]]
* [[Wisconsin]]
* [[Wyoming]]
}}

==Government==
{{stub|General overview of how the government operates, its structure ect as seen in TF fiction.}}

==Fiction==
====Marvel Comics continuity====
=====Generation 1=====
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''Not long after awakening on Earth, the Autobots sought to forge an alliance with the human authorities. They contacted the US Government asking for a meeting with the [[President of the United States]] to discuss matters. Their offer was accepted and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] traveled to [[Washington, D.C.]] to visit the [[White House]].''

''Unfortunately [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] intercepted a human communication giving details of the meeting. Unwilling to risk an Autobot-Human alliance, [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] activated the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]]<ref>This clashes somewhat with later continuity when the Insecticons are shown to be on Cybertron</ref> and sent them to Washington to sabotage the talks.''

''The Insecticons attacked at just the moment that Optimus Prime and the President met. They attempted to discredit the Autobots by pledging to destroy in the name of Optimus Prime. They then headed for the city and began to cause mindless destruction''

''Horrified, Optimus Prime led Prowl and Warpath in a counter attack that eventually drove the Insecticons away. Prime then decided that the humans would never believe that the Insecticons were not Autobots and leaves Washington to go back to the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]].''

''The President meanwhile was initially convinced that the Autobots had been set up and allowed them to deal with the Insecticons themselves. When the Autobots then failed to return, the President concluded that he had made a mistake and misjudged the Autobots’ good intentions. He vowed never to make that mistake again.''

''After this the Autobots’ relations with the US Government continued to deteriorate.'' The Government assigned the shadowy organization [[Intelligence and Information Institute|Triple-I]] to find a way to protect the public from the Transformer threat. Triple-I engaged the Transformers on a number of occasions, although it was usually the Autobots who came off worse.

Over time tensions seemed to ease, mainly due to the efforts of [[G.B. Blackrock]] who on several occasions attempted to convince the authorities of the truth of the Autobot/Decepticon conflict.

This ultimately seemed to meet with some success leading to Blackrock forming the [[Neo-Knights]], a group of superhumans that the President then sent to attack a battling [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] just before they were transported back to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] by [[Primus]]. As this led to most Transformers being removed from the planet, tensions were finally eased.

=====Generation 2=====
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===Generation 1===
====American cartoon continuity====
=====''The Transformers'' cartoon=====
After the initial [[Decepticon]] threat was repulsed, [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] wrote in his journal that "all of the world's governments" were assisting the [[Autobot|Autobots]]' attempts to return to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. This would presumably include the United States. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 3}}

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====Japanese cartoon continuity====
=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====
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=====''Super-God Masterforce'' cartoon=====
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=====''Victory'' cartoon=====
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====Dreamwave Generation 1 comics====

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====''G.I. Joe vs The Transformers''====

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====IDW Generation 1 comics====
The United States had a secret intelligence organisation named [[Skywatch]], who investigated alien incidents and potential threats. In 1985, after discovering [[Laserbeak (G1)|one such alien]], they had their budget increased {{storylink|Spotlight: Soundwave|Spotlight: Soundwave}} — despite that the [[Pentagon]] and National Security Council seemed completely unaware that robotic aliens were operating on American soil. {{storylink|Devastation issue 3|Devastation issue 3}} We all knew security agencies have rivalries and don't like talking to each other, but ''damn''.

A year after the initial contact, America was hit with a devastating Decepticon attack. [[New York City]] was seized and the [[United States military|United States Military]] humiliated, and then a few days later four other cities came under simultaneously attack - one of which was Washington, DC, which saw the death of the President. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron|All Hail Megatron}}

===Beast Era===
====''Beast Wars'' cartoon====
Millions of years ago, the Autobot starship [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] was shot down in a space battle with the Decepticon flagship ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]'' and crash into the side of a volcano, in a region that would one day become North America. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part III)}}

Much, much later in 1977, the United States' National Aeronautical and Space Administration (NASA) launched the ''Voyager'' probes exploration probes. These primitive, unmanned spacecraft carried [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|golden disks]] depicting humans, the approximate location of Earth in space as well as containing imaging and audio data on Earth and its inhabitants. When the Autobots and Decepticons on the Ark awoke and resumed the [[Great War]], the Decepticon leader [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] somehow managed to capture one of the probes and encoded a message within for any descendants. The message was a desperate gamble: should the Decepticons fail to defeat the Autobots, their descendants must use the then-emerging [[Transwarp]] technology to go back to the past and eliminate [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] as he slumbered on the Ark in [[stasis lock]]. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 2)}}

Years in the future, a rogue [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] general named [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] stole the Golden Disk and travelled back in time, though he was loath to follow his namesake's instructions, preferring keep that plan as a last resort. Meanwhile, he used the information on the Golden Disk to destroy the valley where the meddlesome humanity was purported to have evolved from. This act of genocide was prevented by the heroic former Predacon [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]], who gave his life to protect the valley, and all-but destroy the Disc. {{storylink|Code of Hero}}

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===Unicron Trilogy===
====Cartoon continuity====
=====Armada=====
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=====Energon=====
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=====Cybertron=====

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====Dreamwave comics continuity====

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===Live-action ''Transformers'' movie continuity===
====Transformers (2007)====
The [[United States Armed Forces]] can take on and do serious damage to Transformers. {{storylink|Transformers (2007)|Transformers}}

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====Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comics====
{{notetitantlg}}
The United States Armed Forces all got beaten up off-panel, and the Decepticons rule America. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|Transformers Comic issue 9}}

The Decepticons were overthrown by the Autobots, but many cities are left devastated. The previous President is presumed dead, the Georgia town Savannah is the site of a large medical shelter for refugees, and [[NATO]] has military command. New President [[Theodore Allen]] has been sworn in; let's hope he's not the pawn of an alien robot jet, eh? {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 14|Transformers Comic issue 14}} {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 15|Transformers Comic issue 15}}

The Decepticons carried on a deliberate policy of infrastructure destruction {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 16|Transformers Comic issue 16}} that climaxed in six hundred square miles of southern US soil being taken over as a Decepticon nation. They loved it, the humans left it. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 20|Transformers Comic issue 20}}

The Decepticons would go on to launch punitive attacks and a diplomatic assault to get the US government to boot the Autobots out. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|Revolution Part 1}} The day after this was done, the Decepticons swarmed across the Eastern seaboard, overrunning cities like Baltimore while their pet President kept the military from taking action. The Decepticons would've conquered half the country within a few hours if [[Stockade (Movie)|Stockade]] hadn't taken control of a third of their [[drones]] and started a [[Decepticon Civil War]] on US soil, halting the advance. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 24|Revolution Part 2}}

====IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics====
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====''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie====
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===''Transformers Animated''===
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==References==
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[[Category:Animated locations]]
[[Category:Armada]]
[[Category:Countries]]
[[Category:Cybertron]]
[[Category:Energon]]
[[Category:Generation 1 locations]]
[[Category:Generation 2]]
[[Category:United States of America]]

Talk:Nemesis (ROTF)

2009-07-17T16:05:30Z

137.195.68.169: /* Location */

If the Fallen was on the ROTF Nemesis the whole time, what happened to him when Starscream's starship was destroyed at the end of ROS? Starscream's ship launched from Cybertron to pursue the fleeing Autobot ship. When I brought up the issue of ship names before the site crash, I was informed by Alex Milne that the ROS Decepticon battlecruiser wasn't the Nemesis. Also, Soundwave and the new Decepticons arrived to Earth in [[Alliance issue 2]] aboard an unseen starship, which was most likely the Nemesis. It's prossible that Dan Khanna and Andrew Griffith just recycled Milne's ROS starship design for Defiance issue 4.

Also, this page needs to be cleaned up. The writing is a little stilted and there's some problems in tense. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:58, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
: Apparently there's two ships named Nemesis. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:04, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
:I didn't know it was destroyed in ROS (I confess I didn't read it). Is that the same as Dreadwing's ship that got blasted through the space bridge back to Mars? So the relic might have survived the blast and is on Mars? Or was the ship at Trypticon when Trypticon was destroyed? So far the plot summaries and the Nemesis (Movie) article don't make it clear.
:They do look the same, and the Decepticons built the Relic's Nemesis from scratch specially for their purpose and Bumblebee said he never saw anything like it. The chances of the two ships just looking the same on purpose are minimal. If their looking alike is an art error, that is noteworthy. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:52, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
::My updated versions of the [[Nemesis (Movie)]] and [[Ark (Movie)]] articles were lost during the crash. The ship Dreadwing steals to make his getaway looks pretty much like Starscream's ship, so it's probably safe to assume it's the same ship. We later see Soundwave in Alliance issue 2 searching the debris and seeing the imprint of Frenzy's body (that Starscream presumably retrieved from the wreckage).
::As for the Fallen surviving the blast, the sequence of events doesn't fit if we go with your theory that both ships are the same. Megatron encountered the ROTF Nemesis in space. He flew ahead of both the Ark and Starscream's group. Starscream's ship was launched from Cybertron, and was WAY behind the Ark and Megatron. They only arrived on Mars thousands of years later.
::As I said, it's probable that the Defiance artists simply recycled Milne's design. Milne had previously told me he didn't intend for Starscream's battlecruiser to be the Nemesis, and obviously, he was aware at the time that the ''actual'' IDW Nemesis would appear in Defiance. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:18, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

==Location==

It was only on-screen briefly in the movie, but I had the impression that the Nemesis could be on any moon of a ringed gas giant, not specifically Saturn. It would explain how Megatron was able to return with reinforcements so quickly, mind you. [[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 07:22, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
::I don't see how the Nemesis being on a non-Saturn ringed planet would have made Megatron's trip any shorter. The reinforcements would have been on the Nemesis itself, after all. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:22, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:::The "mind you" indicates that what he's saying is that even though the movie didn't actually call the planet SATURN! (perhaps suggesting it could be on any moon of any ringed planet) being on one of Saturn's moons would actually explain how Megsy and The Fallen were able to get their forces to Earth within the span of a few days. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:27, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Righto-then! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::Yeah, I was conceding that it makes a lot of sense for it to be Saturn, even if it's not definitively stated. [[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 14:08, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
:Since they didn't say, I think it's reasonable to assume it's one of Saturn's moons based on the appearance of the gas giant, specifically the moon that looks like it's the set of Armageddon --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:00, 2 July 2009 (EDT).
::The various novels make it clear that the ice world the nemesis is crashed on is in another solar system. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:58, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
:::And in the movie, it's on a moon plainly in front of Saturn. It's just another thing different between the movies and the adaptations. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:15, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
::::I guess I didn't realize that '''Saturn''' was located [http://emopanda.com/tmp/not_saturn.jpg so close to a '''nebula.''']
::::Is this like Energon? "We warped into another galaxy on the outer reaches of the solar system."
::::Do you have any citation for this planet being Saturn ''beyond'' 'butterstotch planet with rings'? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:56, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::Post another screenshot from a pirated copy of the movie, and you're banned from this site. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:22, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::So I take that to mean "no, I don't have a citation Saturn?" -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:01, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Well, seeing how Megatron flew there and flew back with Starscream and a protoform army in—at most—a couple of days, I would think it would have to be Saturn for it not to be an error, and even that is pushing it. We have no idea how or why it crashed anywhere, which is frustrating. I liked the idea it was in a dead star system, then it might have been a system where they previously used a harvester. Could a gas giant planet exist in a dead star system? I don't know. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:34, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::We do not source leaked information in articles on this wiki. However, recent "chatter in the network" about things which have been ''leaked, stolen or snuck'' leads me to believe that an upcoming Store Exclusive may support just that scenario. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:18, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::A gas giant could indeed continue to exist in a dead star system. However given that there's plainly daylight shining upon the gas giant in the movie, it's got a perfectly healthy star nearby. I figure Saturn's the most logical choice at the moment, unless it's outright stated otherwise. Someone should bring it up at a convention panel some time![[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 12:05, 17 July 2009 (EDT)

Megatron (Movie)

2009-07-17T11:27:18Z

137.195.68.169: /* Burger King */

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{{disambig3|Megatron}}
:''Megatron is the [[Decepticon]] leader from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]]. He is often referred to as "Lord Megatron". Known to humans as both "The Ice Man" and "The Mega-Man" and more formally as [[Non-Biological Extraterrestrial|N.B.E.]]-01''

[[Image:Movie_Megatron_Defiance3.jpg|thumb|300px|Friends, [[Trypticon (Movie)|Trypticonians]], countrybots, lend me your audio receptors!]]

Once the [[Lord High Protector]] of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and the "[[brother]]" of the science division leader [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], '''Megatron''' is vicious, extremely powerful, single-minded in his goals, straight-forward and brutally direct. He is all "blunt force" in contrast to [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream's]] penchant for deceit and trickery. On the downside, Megatron tends to become so obsessed with the object of his desires that he can ignore "secondary" matters, glaring flaws in his plans (otherwise, he likely wouldn't have melted into ice-cold arctic water after being white hot from falling through [[Earth]]'s atmosphere, and spent ten-thousand years as a [[wikipedia:popsicle|popsicle]], and even crippling injuries in pursuit of the coveted item. Trying to talk Megatron out of blindly going for his goals is useless. He will risk his world, his troops, and even his own [[spark]] to achieve his goals; these things do not matter to Megatron. Even the destruction of the [[Autobot]]s is a secondary concern. In Megatron's cerebral processor, all that has become important are the whims of his [[The Fallen|master]] and, by extension, the [[All Spark]].

While [[Megatron (disambiguation)|some]] merely dislike or disregard humans due to the incomprehensibility of organics being a dominant life form ''anywhere'', Megatron feels a violent hatred towards them and seems to view them as only slightly above bacteria. Though his master suffered a very similar affliction due to the circumstances of his purpose of existence, Megatron's postulation is born from spending decades as a prisoner of sorts to them, causing a very extreme disdain. If there was no All Spark, it would not be much of a stretch to realize his ideals would have brought him to this planet anyway, just to cleanse one more planet of an "infection".

{{quote|You still fight for the weak! That is why ''you lose!''|Megatron to Optimus|[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]}}

==Fiction==
===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
[[Image:Defiance1 Megs Prime argument.jpg|left|350px|thumb|"Know your place, boy!"]]

High Protector Megatron, the supreme commander of the Cybertronian defense forces and firm leader of all of Cybertron, once ruled the entire planet seemingly side-by-side with Optimus Prime, protecting their world against all perceived hostile threats. For generations, the two ruled in peace—Megatron firm, with Prime being fair, creating an even (if sometimes strained) governmental balance. When Commander [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] returned from his patrol in the [[Eshems Nebula]], [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]] was reporting on his science sector's continuing excavation of the site near the temple at [[Simfur]] and the unusual pulse waves that the [[All Spark]] had been emitting ever since work began. At the excavation site, while Optimus' scientists were concerned with disturbing the ancient artifacts, all Megatron cared about was whether these relics might provide the same revitalising energy as the All Spark. He was nettled when Optimus asserted the sector's dominion over all scientific and archaeological discoveries and reminded his junior that it was his defence force that protected this world, demanding to be informed of all possible threats from the excavation's findings. When Optimus dared to remind Megatron of the military's treatment of such discoveries as hostile, Megatron told Optimus that when ''he'' tried to be the leader of Cybertron, he could make those decisions, not ''now''. When a mysterious relic was discovered, Megatron ordered it removed at once, a demand that Optimus disagreed with. Just as the pair were about to launch into another argument, Cybertron fell under attack from Nebula inhabitants. Megatron had the relic quickly moved to his quarters under the guise of protecting it from the invaders. Arriving to find [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] and [[Cliffjumper (Movie)|Cliffjumper]] seeking cover within the temple of Simfur, Megatron chastised their alleged lack of courage before he was hit by an alien tank vehicle. After destroying it, he told Starscream to keep Optimus' team out of the military's way and staggered back to his quarters in the capital of [[Trypticon (Movie)|Trypticon]]. Drawn towards the relic, he ignored his injuries and scraped away at the layers of debris encrusting it before losing consciousness. {{storylink|Defiance issue 1}}

[[Image:Defiance2_Megatron_warrally.jpg|thumb|250px|Mein Führer!]]

The relic used what little power it had left to repair Megatron's wounds. At first Megatron was angry, demanding the being to show himself to the Protector of all Cybertron. The relic explained that it was unable to do so without Megatron's help, and ''if'' he helped, the relic would make him '''Lord''' of Cybertron. The relic then fired beams of energy into Megatron's mind (turning his white optic sensors red), explaining what needed to be done, filling him with delusions of grandeur. When Optimus came looking for the Protector, Megatron had changed; he had become even more aggressive in his speech and demeanor, and what's more, he demanded Optimus gather his scientists to go to war. When Optimus explained the sector was not combat-trained, Megatron shot back that the scientists should have known what the aliens were after: the All Spark. Optimus refused, stating that the army's mission was of defense, and it went against everything their society was based upon to exacerbate war. Megatron slammed Optimus into the wall and stated that their society then needed to ''change''. He held a massive saber-rattling war rally outside Trypticon, demanding vengeance upon the alien aggressors. He claimed that until the war ended, he would assume full control of the military, and everybody would answer only to him. Megatron ordered all flight-capable Cybertronians accompany him to the Eshems Nebula, where they launched a surprise attack against the still-unknown aliens. Megatron fought his way inside the alien flagship and personally executed the alien leader. He then ordered Starscream and his units to conduct a war of genocide: ''none'' of the aliens were to survive. {{storylink|Defiance issue 2}}

[[Image:Defiance3_wearenowDECEPTICONS.jpg|thumb|left|200px|]]

Megatron returned from the front with news of their success and awaited further instructions from his master. The relic ordered Megatron to prepare the way for his return by expanding the army, and at the end, Cybertron would be Megatron's, while everything else the master's. Megatron was enraged when the relic informed him that Optimus had snooped inside his quarters while he was fighting the aliens, and convinced the Protector that Optimus was after the same power the relic had promised ''him''. Now seeing that there were "enemies" within Cybertron as well as without, Megatron arranged to have the "traitors" taken care of by ordering [[Prowl (Movie)|Prowl]]'s security team to arrest Optimus, and sent Starscream's soldiers to kill all bar Optimus. However, Megatron underestimated Optimus, who personally defeated Starscream's squad. Nonetheless, he used the survivors as propaganda that treacherous malcontents sought to betray them all, and declared that Megatron's followers would now be reformed under a new image and a new name: '''Decepticons'''.{{storylink|Defiance issue 3}}

Optimus' forces having eluded him for now, Megatron was given new orders by his master: build a [[Nemesis (ROTF)|mighty starship]] that would scour the stars for something very important to the relic's plans. The relic counseled Megatron to not make the same mistakes he did thousands of years ago, that his protege should strike without mercy or hesitation. The relic told Megatron the story of his mighty race, and how the All Spark granted them great power and created the Transformer race, but it needed to be recharged by draining the power of a sun using specially-constructed [[Solar harvester|harvester]] devices, and their under-construction starship would be used to search for the last harvester in the galaxy. When Megatron presumed to believe he would accompany his master, he was rebuked and punished. Much later, the ''Nemesis'' was finally completed, the relic praising Megatron for his fine work, and ordering him to stay behind to continue the war. Over the next thousand years, the Autobots and Decepticons clashed in a bloody struggle until Optimus Prime made his most dangerous gamble. During an assault on the Autobots personally led by Megatron and his hound, [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]], the tyrant crushed an Autobot opponent's spark before casually tossing his corpse over his shoulder. He declared that the All Spark would be his, to which Blackout assured his leader that he would personally see to it. Megatron was pleased by his minion's loyalty, but decided to dispatch him to assist Starscream's unit to prevent Optimus Prime's reinforcements from entering Tyger Pax. He then left to meet his destiny, but it slipped from his grasp; Prime had commissioned the All Spark to be launched into the abyss of outer space. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 1|Prime Directive (IDW) issue 1}} {{storylink|Planetfall}}
[[Image:Movie Megatron Targetcomic sure.jpg|left|150px|thumb|"Sit, boy — or I'll beat you to death."]]

[[Image:MovieMegatron Bumblebee torture comic.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Better get some ice on that.]]
After realizing [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] had stalled him from claiming the Cube so the operation could be completed, Megatron tore off Bumblebee's arm—removing his weapon—and crushed his voice box, destroying his vocal processors so that the young Autobot would never speak of the affront to his destiny. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 1|Prime Directive (IDW) issue 1}} Megatron, believing Prime to be a desperate, inexperienced fool, gave chase. On the way, he detected the ''Nemesis's'' distress signal and soon found the mighty starship on a barren world, abandoned by all but his master. Megatron was berated for allowing the Cube to slip away from his grasp and ordered to thoroughly continue his chase. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 4}} As Megatron tracked the All Spark through space, he mused about his reasons for the war and how he and his "brother" were not all that different, as seen by Optimus' sentencing their home to a slow death by launching the Cube into space. Tracing the All Spark via energy signature to [[Earth|a primitive world]], he lost contact with it upon atmospheric entry and crashed into the planet's icy northern pole. Low on [[Energon (fuel)|energon]], his safety buffers exhausted, Megatron went into stasis lock. Millennia later, [[Archibald Witwicky]], the leader of the National Arctic Circle Expedition, discovered Megatron buried deep in the ice. Unfortunately, the soon-blinded Witwicky was eventually driven insane by what he saw, attracting the attention of a mysterious [[Sector Seven|group]] that sought to discredit his story and seize the mysterious "Ice Man". Six years later, they found the Cube. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 2|Prime Directive (IDW) issue 2}}

In the Earth year of 1935, Megatron was moved to [[Hoover Dam]], in extremely close proximity to the All Spark's final resting place, where he would remain imprisoned for the next seven decades. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 3|Prime Directive (IDW) issue 3}}

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===''Transformers: Beginnings''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]]

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{{note|Transformers: Beginnings is a condensed flash-animated retelling of IDW's first movie prequel comic series.}}

===Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comic===

[[Image:MegatronMovie_GeoffSenior.jpg|right|150px|thumb|''The Beast and its armies shall rise from the pit to make war against God.'']]

The All Spark had not been blindly launched into space, however—its trajectory was leading it directly towards the [[Alkaris Anomaly]], a wormhole that could potentially transport the cube to any one of an infinite number of locations in the universe. Megatron was fully capable of catching up to the cube before it would enter the wormhole, but as he passed Cybertron's moon, he found himself ensnared by an Autobot tractor beam of remarkable strength that pulled him down to the moon's surface.

Enraged by the ignominy of it all, Megatron turned his weapons on the Autobots responsible, but quickly calmed down enough to realize that this was only playing into their hands, and instead ordered [[Brawl (Movie)|Devastator]] to take his place in the battle. Megatron swooped back into space, hot on the All Spark's heels, but was unable to stop the cube from falling through the anomaly. Determined to have the All Spark's power, Megatron chose to enter the wormhole himself, only to be spat out in some far-off star system, with no trace of the All Spark... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2}}

''This led into Prime Directive #2.''

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In another reality, he defeated Optimus at [[Mission City]], killed Sam Witwicky and took control of the All Spark. He was fully linked to it and drew on its power—"It is me and I am it!"—giving him greater might and the ability to heal any wound. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 12|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 4}}

After conquering an unknown chunk of Earth (including the entire [[United States of America]]) with [[Dropkick]] as his second-in-command, he used the All Spark's power to start turning Earth from an organic world into a new Cybertron. Optimus Prime lay frozen in the [[Hoover Dam|old Sector Seven base]], Autobot resistance was scattered, and NATO's threat to nuke occupied America was hardly much of one. [[Image:Megatron Bumbleslap.jpg|left|350px|thumb|"''Sigh'' Even mindless violence seems boring today..."]] The only thing bothering Megatron was those rebels breaking into Hoover Dam... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 1}}

Megatron personally arrived to face [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] and hunted for him, trying to bait him into appearing. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 10|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 2}} Realising the Autobot must have come with a human ally, he deliberately threatened to go after the human and thus got an emotional Bumblebee to make a defiant attack... at which point he backhanded Bumblebee into the wall and prepared to eviscerate him. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 11|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 3}} He gave the Autobot a chance at a swift death if he begged for mercy, and was quite impressed when Bumblebee merely asked "that all you got?", but was less impressed when Autobot reinforcements arrived. [[Image:Megatron Titan12.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Megatron's BDSM Dungeon just wasn't meeting expectations.]] He effortlessly smashed them aside and was about to kill [[Skyblast (Movie)|Skyblast]] when a new challenger arrived: the revived Optimus! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 12|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 4}}

Optimus Prime got the snot beaten out of him, every attack he landed on Megatron being repaired by All Spark power. However, he distracted Megatron long enough for Bumblebee to hit him with the ''other'' thing they'd broken into the Dam for: Sector Seven's greatest weapon, a nanovirus that targeted All Spark operation frequencies. Infected, the tyrant was consumed from within by his own power and collapsed dead. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 13|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 5}}

Or so it appeared. He'd downloaded his mind into the All Spark interface module, knowing Starscream would take it and assimilate it into himself. And so Megatron was able to be a voice in Starscream's head for weeks and weeks—and finally, when Starscream had suffered a setback and wanted a plan to stop the Autobots, Megatron gave him one: to let him out... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 22|The Decepticon Who Haunted Himself}}

While Starscream didn't, he ''did'' follow Megatron's tactical suggestions. He had the Decepticons use both carrot (promise of truce) ''and'' stick (multiple attacks) to make the US government, prompted by [[Theodore Allen|the mind-controlled President Allen]], boot out the Autobots—and then nuke them as they left, giving the Decepticons a clear shot at reconquest! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|Revolution Part 1}} This plan backfired when [[Stockade (Movie)|Stockade]] intervened, and Megatron visited a broken, gibbering Starscream to once again tell him the only way out was to release him and let him walk the Earth again. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 24|Revolution Part 2}}
[[Image:Starscreamseesthings_Titan25.jpg|left|350px|thumb|''You're looking throooough me...'']]

This time Starscream ''did''... much to his dismay when he realised what he'd done. And so, when Stockade's New Decepticons stormed the [[Decepticon Heartland]], Megatron was there to "greet" them with fiery death!

Megatron fought Stockade in single combat, and [[Nucleon]]-fueled punches rained down on him—only for him to ''grab'' a punch and use the momentum to hurl his opponent, berating him for lacking clear ambition to support his strength. This fight would've carried on except then the Autobots turned up. Trashing a rebellion, conquering Earth, ''and'' killing Optimus Prime in one day?! WOOOOO!

But Optimus drew first blood, and before Megatron could truly fight back, he was forcibly teleported with his Decepticons to Cybertron. A dead Cybertron. A dead Cybertron that itself teleported to an unknown area of space, leaving them trapped with no way back and no way off, ''forever''.

{{bigquote|'''PRIIIIIME!'''}}

{{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 25|Revolution Part Three}}

===''Ghosts of Yesterday'' prequel novel===
"The Ice Man" was kept in deep freeze by [[Sector Seven]] in their super-secret [[Sector Seven High Arctic Base|High Arctic Base]] until they decided to move him closer to the [[All Spark|Allspark]] in 1969. The convoy was disrupted when the driver of the lead truck spun out causing the rest of the vehicles to pile up on the icy roads. It was determined later that the driver was the [[Soviet Union|Soviet]] spy [[Sergei Tasarov]] who had taken the place of the Sector Seven agent Peter Hodgson.

While the convoy prepared their defenses and a Soviet strike force attacked trying to obtain the Ice Man.

When Megatron came partially online, it was obvious that some time had passed. Not only was he encased in a primitive transport, but there were [[Human|lifeforms]] fighting over him. Before Megatron could properly exterminate them, another crude transport crashed into his, causing a massive (but not spark-threatening) explosion. Megatron would have been pleased to know that the fire only added to his terrifying visage in the eyes of the maggots. Regaining his composure, Megatron noticed [[Phillip Nolan|an insect]] standing near him. As Megatron reached out to grab it, [[Thomas Kinnear|another insect]], this one terminally damaged, began firing crude projectiles which his body armor easily deflected. Waiting until after the creature had expended its ammunition, Megatron grabbed it in his hand, only to discover that it had packed itself with explosives, which threw Megatron to the ground when they detonated. Then, the aforementioned first insect began spraying liquid nitrogen on Megatron, causing him to go back into stasis. Unable to escape, Megatron screamed a dark vengeance upon his captors. {{storylink|Ghosts of Yesterday}}

===''Transformers'' (2007 movie)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Hugo Weaving]] (English), [[Kōtarō Nakamura]] (Japan), [[José Santacruz]] (Brazil), [[Hans-Jürgen Wolf]] (German)

[[Image:Movie2007_Megatron_ArchibaldWitwicky.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Oh baby you know just the spot to turn me on!]]

Megatron eventually succeeded in tracking the All Spark to [[Earth]], where he rather embarrassingly crash-landed in the Arctic Circle and was frozen solid for thousands of years. In 1897, some 100 Earth-years before the arrival of the other Transformers, he was discovered by an explorer named [[Archibald Witwicky|Archibald Amundsen Witwicky]]. Captain Witwicky accidentally activated Megatron's navigation system and caused the coordinates of the All Spark to be etched onto the explorer's glasses. Megatron remained imprisoned in the Arctic, until the 1930s, when he was dug out by the United States government and moved to a secret [[Sector Seven]] stronghold inside [[Hoover Dam]]. In the years that followed, many modern devices (by Earth standards) were reverse-engineered from his frozen body.

[[Image:Movie Megatron breakout.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Mace isn't for spraying, it's for hitting.]]

In the present day, having searched the galaxy for the All Spark and being drawn to Earth, the remaining Decepticons learned of Witwicky's glasses. Through the Internet, they determined the location of both Megatron and the All Spark inside Hoover Dam. [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] infiltrated the dam and shut down the power systems, while Starscream attacked the external powerlines, resulting in Megatron's thawing out. Once again online, the leader of the Decepticons informed the worthless insects of his true name, shouting "I am Megatron!" (to clear up all that N.B.E.-01/Ice Man nonsense), randomly killed a few of them while destroying his former prison, then transformed and flew off after the All Spark again. He met up with Starscream on the outside, and, never one for pleasantries, demanded to know where the Cube was. Upon learning that the humans had moved the All Spark, Megatron berated Starscream for yet another failure.

[[Image:Movie2007_Megatron_Starscream.jpg|thumb|left|250px|You fail me once again Starscream... will I ever meet [[Starscream (Shattered Glass)|a Starscream that is truly loyal?]]]]

After Starscream and Devastator's opening attacks in [[Mission City]], Megatron arrived, and again declared his name (he really wants people to know who he is). The Autobots were so panicked by the sight of their long lost nemesis that [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] called for a temporary retreat. Megatron blasted [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] away when the diminutive Autobot attempted to attack, then threw him into the air before crushing him on top of a tower with his clawed talons. Jazz vainly fought on, asking if Megatron wanted a "piece", but doing little damage to Megatron. The Decepticon leader killed the Autobot by tearing him in half, callously declaring that he wanted "two".

[[Image:Movie Megatron jetmode cityfight.jpg|250px|thumb|Whoa, that energon's not settling too well.]]

As [[Sam Witwicky|the human boy]] ran off with the All Spark, Megatron ordered the Decepticons to [[Decepticons, attack|attack]]. Devastator attacked the armed insects, while Starscream and [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] fought [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and Ratchet for the All Spark. At that moment, Optimus Prime appeared and challenged Megatron. Millennia in the ice had done nothing to lessen the animosity Megatron felt for his brother, however. Barely managing to growl out Prime's name, he transformed and flew at Prime at full speed. The Autobot leader leapt and grabbed a hold of Megatron, who slammed him into a building before flying right through a skyscraper. Both leaders landed in the middle of an intersection, but Megatron was the first to recover and leaped upon his brother, snarling that the humans were undeserving of life. Optimus Prime replied that they had the right to choose for themselves before he threw his brother off. Megatron declared that if Prime wished to defend them, he should "join them in extinction", forming his [[fusion cannon]]. Before he could fire, the Autobot leader drew his [[ion blaster]] and fired, hitting Megatron. The Decepticon leader shrugged off this attack, spun around from the momentum and fired his cannon, throwing Optimus Prime into the side of a building.

[[Image:Movie Megatron Samonroof.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Oh look I found a stray human... wonder if I can keep him as a pet... come on boy, don't be scared. I'll take you to a new home.]]

Megatron pursued the young human who had removed the All Spark from Hoover Dam, destroying everything that stood in his way. The boy ran to a dilapidated building that was the designated coordinates for a human military evacuation team, and Megatron smashed his way through, yelling that he could smell the human maggot. Starscream destroyed the helicopter intended to take the All Spark, and Megatron burst through the floor, inquiring if it was courage or fear that compelled him. Finally cornering him on a ledge, Megatron offered that if the human gave him the All Spark, the boy might live as [[Ravage (G1)|his]] [[Laserbeak (G1)|pet]]. The Decepticon leader relished the human's defiant refusal and destroyed the ledge the human was standing upon, sending the boy tumbling to the ground.

[[Image:Movie2007_Prime_Megatron.jpg|thumb|250px|Get up, so I can knock you back down!]]

Unfortunately, the human was caught by Optimus Prime, who then tried to escape down the side of the building before Megatron tackled him and sent all three slamming into the pavement. As a nearby [[Michael Bay|human bystander]] attempted to run, the Decepticon expressed his disgust at the insect's proximity and flicked it away. Protecting the young boy, Prime declared that their war would end here and it was now just between the two brothers. Though lusting for the All Spark, Megatron decided to indulge his brother's obvious death wish, declaring that only he was in this fight. Despite Optimus Prime's best efforts, Megatron was relentless, matching the Autobot leader with blow after devastating blow until he collapsed. Adding insult to injury, Megatron informed Prime that his defense of the "weak" was the real reason he lost.

[[Image:Megatron allspark merge.JPG|left|250px|thumb|Oh, he's dead. There's no way this will make him [[Galvatron (disambiguation)|even]] [[Galvatron (G1)|more]] [[Megatron (RID)|powerful.]]]]

The Decepticon leader turned his attention back to the human boy, but was suddenly attacked by the human fighter jets and [[William Lennox|Captain Lennox]]'s ground soldiers firing sabot rounds. Optimus took this chance, striking Megatron and knocking him down. His armor a damaged, shattered mess, Megatron ignored the punishment and focused on the human boy, growling that he would kill the boy and that the All Spark was his. As Optimus Prime ordered the boy to place the All Spark into his chest, the human instead pushed it into the now-exposed [[spark]] in Megatron's chest, overloading him with energy and extinguishing the Decepticon's life force. As Optimus Prime stood over Megatron's lifeless shell, watching the light flicker out of his brother's [[Sensors#Optical sensors|optics]], he remarked somberly, yet remorsefully, that Megatron had left him no choice, and removed a shard of the All Spark from his brother's spark cavity.

Megatron's body was dumped into the [[Laurentian Abyss]] at its deepest point, along with the remains of the other Decepticons, where the near-freezing temperatures would, hopefully, keep them dormant indefinitely. {{storylink|Transformers (2007)|Transformers}}
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===Toy bios===
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Megatron was ''born'' evil, always wanting domination of everything. {{storylink|#Voyager Class toys|Voyager Megatron}} His fiery diatribes still managed to sway thousands, however. {{storylink|#Robot Replicas|Robot Replica Megatron}}

At some point, he took a stealth mode so he could attack Optimus without warning. {{storylink|#Fast Action Battlers|Night Attack Megatron}}

When frozen on Earth, he remained vaguely conscious and remembers a few things from when he warmed up slightly. At one point, his body was worshipped as a god by [[protohuman]]s. {{storylink|#Voyager Class toys|Premium Series Megatron}}

===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
In the aftermath of the battle in Mission City, [[Sector Seven]] hauled away Megatron's corpse along with the other Decepticon bodies. The clandestine human organisation brought the bodies to a secret facility in the Nevada desert, with the intention of getting every bit of information they can out of the dead Decepticons before they were forced to dump them into the sea. {{storylink|Alliance issue 1}} When he arrived to oversee the burial of those who fell in Mission City, Optimus Prime noticed the surviving All Spark fragment glowed when near Megatron's body, and gave it to [[Professor Vine]] for safekeeping. {{storylink|Alliance issue 2}} Weeks later, Megatron, along with Blackout, was dumped into the Laurentian Abyss. {{storylink|Alliance issue 3}}
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===''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Hugo Weaving]] (English), Norio Wakamoto (Japan), [[Hans-Jürgen Wolf]] (German)
{{spoiler|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|July 24, 2009}}

[[Image:ROTFMegatronRising.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Now, where's Starscream? I want to give him a piece of my mind.]]

[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] tapped into a conversation between [[NEST]] and General [[Morshower]], listening to Director [[Theodore Galloway]] mention that 1) a shard of the [[All Spark]] was in storage in [[Diego Garcia]] and 2) Megatron's body lay in the [[Laurentian Abyss]]. [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] was sent to steal the shard, and swam to the Abyss with [[Scalpel]], [[Long Haul (ROTF)|Long Haul]], [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]], [[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]] and [[Ze little one|another Constructicon]]. Scalpel ordered spare parts be used to repair Megatron's body with the unnamed Constructicon, who was torn apart by his larger brethren, and then struck Megatron with the shard: the Decepticon leader was reborn as a Cybertronian tank with flight capabilities. Megatron flew up to the surface, striking a submarine on his way, before journeying into space to find the ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]''.

On the ruined ship, Megatron chastised [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] for leaving him to die on Earth, although Starscream defended that he had to take care of the [[hatchlings]], who were dying without [[energon (fuel)|energon]]. Megatron met up with [[the Fallen]], who was free of his sarcophagus but still weakened and in a life support chair. Megatron told his master he had failed to secure the All Spark, but The Fallen told of another energon source on Earth, which had been hidden with the mind of the boy who killed Megatron. Before they could act, however, Megatron was ordered to kill [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], who was the last of the [[Dynasty of Primes]], which made him the only one that could kill the Fallen.

[[Image:ROTFPrimePunch.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Body or face, Megatron? Not the face!]]

Megatron sprang a trap, dispatching [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] to take [[Sam Witwicky]], [[Mikaela Banes]] and [[Leo Spitz]] to him at an abandoned factory. Although Megatron would have rather killed Sam slowly and painfully, Sam had valuable information as to the energon source's location in his mind, which he had received from his own All Spark fragment. Scalpel's probes confirmed The Fallen's claims, and Megatron ordered Scalpel to get it out. Just as Scalpel was ready to dissect Sam's brain, Optimus and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] burst in to rescue the humans. Optimus drove Sam to a forest, with Megatron in hot pursuit. The Autobot and Decepticon leaders transformed and battled as Sam fled. Starscream and Grindor arrived to aid their commander, as Megatron told Prime that Sam could lead them to another energon source. Kicking off his [[mouthplate]] and blasting him, Megatron asked Prime if the boy was worth the future of the Cybertronians. Prime replied that he'd never stop at one, then took on all three Decepticons. Surprisingly, he was winning, stabbing Megatron multiple times. As a weary Prime tore Grindor apart, Megatron stabbed him in the back and blasted him: Prime fell, mortally wounded. As Megatron moved for the boy, the rest of the Autobots arrived and provided enough cover for Bumblebee to spirit Sam away. Already injured from the battle with Prime, Megatron and Starscream were forced to retreat.

[[Image:ROTF_movie_MegatronStarscream_roofchat.jpg|thumb|right|250px|"That's IT! No more Mr. Nice Megatron!" "But you were never-" "SHUT UP!"]]

With Prime dead, Megatron decided it was time to end their secret war, and had the rejuvenated Fallen broadcast a message to deliver Sam to them across the planet. Megatron himself broadcasted the Fallen's message by rewiring the [[Empire State Building]]'s radio tower.

[[Image:ROTFMegatronSam.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Hey, he stole my purse! Wallet! I mean wallet!]]

He then flew to [[Egypt]], where nineteen thousand years before, the Fallen had built a [[Solar harvester]] to harness the [[Sun]] for energon. Megatron ordered [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] to destroy the pyramid that was built over the harvester, while he himself chased Sam for the [[Matrix of Leadership]], which would activate the harvester. Megatron almost killed Sam, but was overwhelmed by human gunfire, and flew off. The Fallen managed to take the Matrix and activate the harvester, but it had already been used to resurrect Optimus. Optimus combined with [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] and destroyed the harvester, leading to a two on one match with Megatron and the Fallen battling Prime. This one went better for Optimus than the last one, as he used Megatron's own cannon to blast half his face off, and then severed the arm. Finally, Optimus used his afterburners to send Megatron hurtling through some ruins, ending his role in the battle. Megatron was so damaged he could barely call out for "Tharscweam!", but it soon mattered little as Optimus Prime killed the Fallen. Horrified at the loss of the power behind the Decepticons, Megatron acknowledged Starscream's advice that they should flee, but noted that "This is ''not'' over."

{{note|Adaptations based on early drafts of the script show Megatron hoped to become a Prime under the Fallen. However, during Optimus' final battle with the ancient villain, he revealed Primes were born, not made. Here, Megatron was angered that he had been misled, refusing to aid his master and vowed never to serve anyone again. Optimus is revealed to be an orphan who was "hidden" from The Fallen, further indicating he is not biologically related to Megatron. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (novel)}} {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen Movie Adaptation}}}}

{{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers'' The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]]

====Autobot campaign====
After arriving at Hoover Dam, Bumblebee saw Megatron and the All Spark being held in the same room, which was guarded by lasers. After bringing down the lasers, Bumblebee managed to shrink the All Spark, while under fire by Megatron. Following the Autobots to Mission City, Megatron ignominiously "flicked" Bumblebee away, then tried to grab the All Spark from Sam. Optimus Prime arrived and the two fought in the Mission City park. After Prime believed that he had destroyed Megatron, Sam handed the All Spark to Prime, but Megatron jumped into the air with his flail, making one last attempt at nailing Prime. Prime caught the flail in its path and yanked Megatron towards him, shoving the All Spark into his chest. Pretty ruthless there, Prime, pretty ruthless. {{storylink|Transformers The Game (console)|Transformers The Game}}

====Decepticon campaign====
After learning Megatron's location, Blackout and Starscream sabotaged the dam's power, allowing Megatron to thaw out and awaken. After Megatron emerged, Starscream and Blackout bowed before their Lord, who declared that they had much to do. After the Decepticons dispatched the Autobots, Megatron, hoping to draw Prime out, went on a rampage in Mission City, declaring that the city would burn beneath his feet (this means toastie toes, but he's willing to make that sacrifice). Megatron and Prime played a game of cat and mouse, with Megatron tracking Prime and Sam, until Megatron finally destroyed Prime, then merged the All Spark with his spark, becoming even more powerful in the process (...wait, what?). After decimating Earth, Megatron took the [[Abraham Lincoln|Lincoln Memorial]] as his throne, then ordered Starscream, Brawl, and Barricade to finish the planet, before going on to conquer the galaxy. {{storylink|Transformers The Game (console)|Transformers The Game}}

===''Transformers: Autobots''===
Having landed on Earth some thousands of years ago, Megatron is thought to be frozen somewhere in the Arctic. As the Autobots look for clues as to his location, they eventually arrive in the frozen desert long enough to realize the humans have found him, as well as the [[All Spark|AllSpark]] (sic). Once they hack into the communications array at the base, they find documentation leading to the Hoover Dam, where the Autobots and Decepticons race. Some wishing to free him, most hoping to destroy him, the Transformers fight over the base until the Decepticon leader is finally freed. Once out of cryo-storage, Megatron proceeds to steal the AllSpark from the Autobots and begin a destructive rampage through Tranquility, until he is finally defeated by Optimus Prime and [[Create-A-Bot (Autobot)|Create-A-Bot]]. {{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Autobots}}

===''Transformers: Decepticons''===
With Megatron frozen in the Hoover Dam, the Decepticons fight to free their leader. However, as is quickly made apparent, Starscream and his young protege, a [[Create-A-Bot (Decepticon)|Create-A-Bot]], seek to eliminate their leader. This quickly changes, as Create-A-Bot is convinced by Barricade to free their commander, as Starscream is a back-stabbing bureaucrat while Megatron is a truly zealous leader. Even though both would kill you in an instant, Megatron would at least do it to your face so you could see it coming.

Once free, Megatron quickly takes the time to wipe out Jazz, who has been left at the bridge to help get rid of Megatron. After a fairly short battle, Megatron smashes Jazz into the dirt, leaving him to die. Back in Tranquility, he chases after Starscream, only to be blocked by [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]. Once the sibling rivalry is finished, Prime is left in pieces in the streets of Tranquility.

Arriving in the Casino Strip, Megatron finds Create-A-Bot damaged and Starscream flying away. Giving chase, he attacks his traitorous second-in-command, nearly destroying him despite his awesome All Spark driven powers. Starscream uses his last breath to insult Megatron before being killed by the tyrant. Returning to Create-A-Bot's side, Megatron takes a moment to call him a weakling and a failure, completely forgetting about the fact that Create-A-Bot saved him, led him to Starscream, destroyed the Autobots, and served him more loyally than most of his other followers. Taking a moment to let this sink in, Megatron went on to tell him that the weak are made to serve the strong, then ripped the young Decepticon apart and ate his Spark. Megatron then took off into the sky with intentions unknown. {{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Decepticons}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen:'' The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]]
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==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:Movie Legends Megatron toy.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Just what the hell do I turn into?]]
*'''Megatron''' (Legends Class, 2007)
**''Japanese name:'' '''EZ Collection Megatron'''
:Legends class Megatron is the smallest mainline ''Movie'' Megatron toy, and boy, does it show. Even with Megatron's relatively simple transformation sequence, the sheer simplicity of the Legends class toy means that his vehicle mode is basically his robot mode splayed out, and again, boy is it ''obvious''. His robot mode is passably accurate, if by accurate one means he is now a hunchback with wings for legs, Dustbusters for hands, and an unchanged Alien Queen-esque head design.
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*'''Generations Legends''' (Target exclusive multi-pack, 2007)
[[Image:TargetGenerationsLegends.jpg|thumb|Megatron is quite beside himself.]]
:A Target exclusive, this four-pack of Legends Class figures contains two versions of both Optimus Prime and Megatron, namely [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Legends of Cybertron Optimus Prime]], [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Movie Legends Optimus Prime]], [[Megatron (Armada)|Legends of Cybertron Megatron]] and Movie Legends Megatron.
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[[Image:Movie Allspark Legends pack.jpg|right|150px|thumb|"Quick, Bumblebee! You hold up Megatron, I'll just fight with the others!" "...I hate you."]]
*'''Battle for the Allspark''' (Toys'R'Us exclusive multi-pack, 2007)
:A Toys'R'Us exclusive, this six-pack of Legends Class figures contains unmodified toys of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]], [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], Megatron, [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]].
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[[Image:Movie Legends JazzIceMegatron toys.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Wow, those guys sure do grow up fast... No, wait. They're still puny.]]
*'''Battle Jazz vs. Ice Megatron''' (Legends multi-pack, 2008)
:Ice Megatron is a, well, ice-themed redeco of Legends class Megatron, which means his black paint applications have been replaced by blue. He comes packed with yet another redeco of Legends class Jazz, this time "battle damaged".
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====Voyager Class toys====
[[Image:Movie Voyager Megatron toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Hey, I think I'm as weird as the War Within figures!... Nah, not there yet.]]
*'''Megatron''' (Voyager Class, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-14'''
**''Accessories:'' Projectile
:Voyager Class Megatron transforms into an ice-covered version of his Cybertronic jet, with transparent blue plastic forming large portions of his vehicle mode, such as parts of his wings. This ice design is carried onto his robot mode, with his legs, shoulders and chest having some kind of 'ice' plastic covering them. With a significantly different (and simple compared to other figures of the same pricepoint) transformation sequence compared to his earlier Leader class toy, his chest frost lowers and his shoulders raise to robot mode position when you bring his lower body forward thanks to [[Automorph Technology|Automorph]] technology. He also has his fusion cannon in its entirety on his left arm. His wings feature flip-out "ice blades", and pulling on a piece in the back of his jet mode brings them forward like pincer claws. This design is remarkably similar to his Predacon- incarnation toys.

:Something interesting to note is that his feet are entirely spring-loaded, which means his foot and the two "rear toes" on each feet automatically close up when he's not standing up. Surprisingly, this helps a lot with the posing, as the feet's parts automatically position themselves for the perfect balance.
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[[Image:Movie Voyager Premium Megatron.jpg|right|250px|thumb|]]
*'''Megatron''' ("Premium Series" Voyager Class, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Projectile
:One of the first figures available in the ''Premium Series'' (although not explicitly identfied on the packaging as such), Voyager Class Megatron was released exclusively at Best Buy on October 16th, 2007 alongside the North American launch of the ''Transformers'' movie DVD. Megatron has been completely redecoed, covering most of his previously grey parts with metallic silver paint and a black paint wash over the top of that. Black and gold highlights are used to offset all of the silver, while the transparent 'ice' parts are clear. These changes essentially make Megatron far more accurate to his movie appearance.

:Megatron is presented in robot mode inside a special display box similar in shape to the packaging for the Hasbro release of ''Generation 1'' ''Masterpiece'' [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]].
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*'''Battle Over Mission City Megatron (Two-Pack)''' ("Screen Battles" Voyager Class, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' Projectile
:A Target exclusive [[repaint]] of Voyager Class Megatron in primarily beige and chocolate brown colors with brown paintwashes, this version replaces the ice colored translucent plastic with two shades of translucent orange to replicate a look that resembles Megatron's firey demise (or atmospheric re-entry). Unlike the previous releases, this version's wings are painted to match the body color, so they give the appearance of molten slag. This version was only available in a two-pack with a mostly unchanged Deluxe Class [[Jazz (Movie)|Final Battle Jazz]] in reference to their fight on the skyscraper featured in the film. As the colors on this Megatron are very similar to the colors on the Screen Battles version of Voyager Class [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], it might be assumed that those two sets are meant to also represent the climactic final battle at the end of the film.
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====Leader Class toys====
[[Image:Movie Leader Megatron toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]
*'''Megatron''' (Leader Class, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-07'''
:Leader Class ''Movie'' Megatron transforms into a silver Cybertronic assault jet. He is quite accurate to the CGI design... except for the giant mass of legs attempting (but failing) to hide under the wings.

:In robot mode, Megatron's sculpt is quite accurate, or as accurate as a toy based on his CG design can be. However, his paint decoration is quite inaccurate, with blue highlights on various parts of his body, possibly to allude to his pre-frozen state and to give a relatively monochromatic figure more color. More confusing is his jet black face, which obscures the sculpt's details and is inaccurate to the movie appearance's gunmetal.

:Megatron's right fist disconnects at the wrist to become the spiked end of the extendable "chain whip" weapon concealed within his forearm; pressing the black switch on the arm pulls the chain taut for a whipping attack. His arms also link together at the wrists to form a "[[fusion cannon]]," with the pod on his left forearm concealing the weapon's [[Automorph Technology|Automorph]]ing twin barrels, exposed by pulling a switch. His other automorph features include his wings folding up as his vehicle nosecone is moved into place, and his feet unfolding as his knees are straightened. Finally, pressing the button on his waist activates a small friction motor, which moves various torso plates and blades on his back into place, accompanied by a metallic shrieking sound and flashing yellow lights.

:Megatron's instructions summarily fail to actually tell the reader about how his gimmicks work. The whipping-action black switch for his flail is not mentioned; they do not detail how to connect the arms for fusion cannon mode; and the fact that the cannon is on a slider, allowing it to be centre-aligned, rather than sitting off to one side, is also omitted.

:There is an error in Megatron's legs, in that his left and right hip joints have been swapped for reasons unknown. Switching them allows for a slightly smoother transformation. In addition to ''that'', both of Megatron's hands have a finger misassembly. Two pieces are molded to have two fingers, while one is obviously supposed to be a thumb–however, this thumb is on the 'outside' of his hands instead of the inside. The prototype on the packaging's stock photos show the correct assembly.

:''Geez'', [[Hasbro]].

:Possibly a dropped feature [[for safety reasons]], the right fist (partly a projectile tethered to the arm) is designed to launch out of his wrist via a spring-loaded firing mechanism. However, the spring for the launching mechanism was removed, though the firing trigger remains. One can either find a compatible spring or steal the spring in his left arm fusion cannon, then place it in his right forearm, though this disables his fusion cannon-retracting Automorph.
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[[Image:Premium Movie Megs.JPG|right|300px|thumb|"Hey, I got a tan!"]]
*'''Megatron''' ("Premium Series" Leader Class, 2008)
:Premium Megatron is a redeco of the previously released Leader class Megatron. The figure is now given far more movie-accurate paint applications of black, gold, & silver. Premium Megatron also features the classic transformation sound when the chest Automorph function is activated. The original "metal shriek" sound is retained when the sound button is pressed in vehicle mode.

:In the promotional photos of the toy, this version was pictured with a new vehicle mode face cover that fit the new head better. However, this retool was apparently dropped before actual production but can still be seen on the box back photography. All manufacturing errors from the first release are still present.

:Unlike some of the early "Premium Series" toys, Premium Leader Megatron was mass-released at a variety of retailers, instead of being an exclusive to any particular store.
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====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:Movie FAB Megatron.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Just back from filming Predator 3]]
*'''Fusion Blast Megatron''' (Fast Action Battler, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:''
**''Accessories:'' 2 projectiles
:Fusion Blast Megatron is a simple version of Megatron with dorky-looking proportions in robot mode, and it turns into an even dorkier-looking vehicle mode. The transformation sequence manages to be even more simple and non-involved than the other ''Movie'' Megatron toys by means of an Automorph feature very similar to the early Beast Wars flipchangers. Moving his back section down causes the torso to flip up, hiding the head and positioning the arms skywards. Though the figure requires a little more repositioning and folding, most of the transformation is done with a single step.
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[[Image:NA megatron FAB.JPG|right|200px|thumb|Racism accepted...]]
*'''Night Attack Megatron''' (Fast Action Battler, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' 2 projectiles
:A redeco of Fast Action Battler Megatron, this time cast primarily in black plastic, with opaque grey missiles.
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====Robot Replicas====
[[Image:Mov2007-toy RobotReplicas Megatron.JPG|right|150px|thumb|This is heavy man!]]
*'''Megatron''' (Robot Replica, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Fusion Cannon
:As part of the [[Robot Replicas]] sub-line, this version of Megatron is a non-transforming action figure that hews very close to the movie's CGI model. It features joints similar to the [[Revoltech]] toys, though the elbows only turn from side-to-side, giving him extremely limited arm articulation. His forearms can be replaced with his fusion cannon accessory (or any other arm attachments from other Robot Replicas, which could lead to some fun Frankensteins).
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====Titanium series====
[[Image:Movie TitaniumRM Megatron.jpg|right|130px|thumb|]]
*'''Megatron''' (3" Robot Masters, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Movie-style Decepticon sigil display stand
:''Titanum'' Megatron is a die-cast metal and plastic figurine, with an accurate sculpt based on the CG model owing to the fact he doesn't need to transform. Being a figurine, he only has articulation in his shoulders, neck and waist. Megatron comes with a Movie-style Decepticon symbol display stand.
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====Attacktix====
*'''Battle Masters Megatron and Scorponok''' (Battle Master set)
[[Image:Attacktix-MovMegsScorp.jpg|right|150px|thumb|HADOOOUKEN!]]
:One of the many casualties of the shelving of Hasbro's ''[[Attacktix]]'' line was this Battle Master set featuring Megatron and Scorponok.

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===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Legends Class Toys====
[[Image:Megatron ROTF Legends toy.jpg|After enduring countless "What do I turn into" captions, Michael Bay started from scratch.|right|thumb|250px]]
*'''Megatron''' (2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''EZ-02'''

:Megatron transforms from a reasonably accurate version of his movie robot mode to a reasonably accurate version of his tank mode (with a teeny extra Megatron face in his groin). He has ball-jointed shoulders and hips in robot mode, plus elbow and knee joints. His alt-mode turret is formed by merging his left and right arms, which is a neat callback to the first movie's fusion cannon, but means the turret can't rotate side to side, only pivot at the barrel.

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====Voyager Class Toys====
[[Image:ROTF_Voyager_Megatron_toy.jpg|thumb|250px|First blue, then green. Watch, in the next movie, it'll be red.]]
*'''Megatron''' (2009)
**''Japanese ID number:''
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:The second mainline ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' Megatron toy is more slender than the larger Leader class Megatron, as it was based (more or less) on the finalized Megatron design, and as such, features a sleeker tank mode, a large lobster-claw like right arm and a normal-sized left arm. Unlike the larger toy, the Voyager's firing missile is located on the left arm, and he's green.
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====Leader Class Toys====
[[Image:ROTF_Leader_Megatron.jpg|thumb|250px|Beefcake!]]
*'''Megatron''' (2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RD-01'''
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:The first and largest ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Megatron toy transforms into a Cybertronian tank, though it lacks the wings seen in the film. In robot mode, Megatron's entire lower right arm is a spring-loaded missile launcher and the tank turret's armour/shroud can be positioned over to partially cover the cannon, with flip-out sword blade, as seen in the early concept design.

:Pressing the Decepticon symbol-emblazoned button on his chest activates his light, [[Mech Alive]], and voice sound effects ("I am Megatron!"). The Mech Alive mechanics involve shaking his head to and fro while panels in his chest shudder. The European release (sold in non-English speaking countries) proclaims just simply "Megatron!" with laughter (although the voice and pronunciation are still in English). In the Canadian province of Quebec, both the European and talking American versions can be found, although due to language demographics, the European version is slightly more widely available.
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====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:ROTF_FAB_Megatron_toy.jpg|thumb|250px|I sure hope [[Wikipedia:Metal_Slug_(series)|SNK]] don't sue...]]
*'''Cannon Blast Megatron''' (2009)
**''Accessories'' Projectile

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====Power Bots====
[[Image:ROTF_PowerBots_Megatron.jpg|thumb|150px|Super Fighting Robot- MEGAMAN!]]
*'''Megatron''' (2009)

This large action figure is a sturdy version of Megatron for younger children. Pressing the various Decepticon symbol buttons activates battle phrases, sound effects and light-up eyes, although for the European release, almost all of the battle phrases were cut in order to avoid language barriers (except for the occasional utterance of "Megatron" among a huge, long string of blasting noises).
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====Robot Replicas====
*'''Megatron''' (2009)

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====Burger King====
[[Image:ROTFtoy-RiseofMegatron.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Darn that [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]]. ''*yyywaaawwwwwwn*'']]
* '''Rise of Megatron''' (Kids meal toy, 2009)
: Rise of Megatron has a pull-back motor and can "transform" between flying tank and robot modes.
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==Merchandise==
===Transformers (2007)===
[[Image:GummyCandyFront.jpg|right|100px|thumb|"Oh, How hideously (and deliciously) ironic!"]]
*'''Transformers Gummy Candy''' (2006)
:Made by the [[Frankford Candy & Chocolate Company]] at the behest of [[Hasbro|Hasbro's]] Cap Candy Company unit, this large Megatron-shaped [[Transformers Gummy Candy|gummy candy]] was available throughout 2006 to 2007. Also available was an [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]-shaped gummy candies.
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===Battling Robots Bubble Bath===
*'''Megatron''' (2007)
[[Image:Megatron bubblebath.jpg|right|120px|thumb|"This is why I hate merchandising."]]
:Megatron's torso attaches to the bottle of bubble bath. His elbows bend, and his arms have a punching gimmick, to allow him to battle the forces of good. Pushing a lever on either side makes the respective fist punch forward. He's removable, though not as easily held without the bottle below his waist. Like many pieces of Megatron merchandise, this "figure" uses the older head design with blue eyes. The blue eyes are also the only spot of paint on him, unlike the elaborately decoed Prime.
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*'''Megatron''' Burger King free toy (2007)
:A non-transformable version of Megatron, cast primarily in gray plastic. The toy's entire "gimmick" is that both arms rotate at the shoulder. Due to the strict [[For safety reasons|protocols]] of making a fast food premium, Megatron's sharp and deadly design was forced to be smoothed out. This had the unfortunate effect of making his sculpted details meld together and looking less like a killer robot and more like a melted clay man. The toy ''appears'' to use the earlier head render of Megatron's, but due to the vague detail and paint job, may also not be.

:The toy also comes with a purple plastic Decepticon base and a lenticular motion card with a surprising amount of frames of animation. These two pieces may in fact be the better part of the package.

====Basic Fun====
*'''Megatron''' (Figural keychain assortment, 2007)
: Produced by [[Basic Fun]], this keychain is a likeness of Megatron's robot mode with articulated arms, legs, head, waist, and a keyring sticking out of his ass.
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====Transformers Movie Danglers====
[[Image:Movie Megatron dangler.jpg|right|200px|thumb|No, that's not his back, that's his actual face.]]
*'''Megatron''' (2007)
:Released by [[Tomy Yujin]] in November 2007<ref name="TomyYujin">[http://www.gachausa.com/products/transformers.asp Tomy Yujin ''Transformers'' page]</ref> for the [[Danglers Collection]], this toy is a weird plastic [[super deformed]] version of Megatron that pops out his vehicle mode when you squeeze him. This little figurine has a little strap on it so that it can be put on cell phones or portable gaming devices.

:Other than Megatron, there are also versions of [[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Devastator]], Bumblebee, Ironhide, Bonecrusher, Jazz, and Optimus Prime.
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====Unleashed====
[[Image:Movie2007_Unleashed_Megatron.jpg|right|200px|thumb|]]
*'''Megatron''' (2008)

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====Transformers Movie Screen Cleaners====
[[Image:Movie Megatron screencleaner.jpg|right|104px|thumb|]]
*'''Megatron''' (2008)
:Released by Tomy Yujin on January 2008<ref name="TomyYujin" />, this dangler is a faction logo-shaped screen cleaner for your cell phone, with a stock image of Megatron printed on the other side.
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===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Transformers Digital Watch====
[[Image:ROTF_Megatrondigitalwatch.jpg|thumb|200px|]]
*'''Megatron Digital Watch''' (2009)

:Made by [[Fab Starpoint]], this Megatron-themed digital watch has a nylon velcro strap with a rubber pull tab, a plastic case and chrome bezel, and an LCD display on the face.
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====Transformers Wacky Wobblers====
*'''Megatron''' (2009)

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====Basic Fun====
*'''Articulated keychain''' (2009)

: Produced by [[Basic Fun]], this keychain is a likeness of Megatron's robot mode with articulated arms, legs, head, waist, and a keyring sticking out of his ass.
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===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Robot Heroes Ratchet vs Megatron.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Adorable head crushing!]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet vs Megatron''' (2007)
:The first Robot Heroes toy of Megatron was available packed with Autobot Ratchet. Like many Robot Heroes, he is grinning from ear to ear, and in a squatty pose. Notably, his hands are simplified into three fingered claws, and his head is a cute version of the original (and replaced) design. His articulation is the standard shoulders and neck. The toy is colored much like the Leader class version of the character.
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*'''The Final Battle''' (2008)
[[Image:Robotheroesfinalbattle.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Shiny!]]
:Sold exclusively in Walmart stores, this release of Megatron is a repaint of the first Robot Heroes toy. Sold with redecoed Autobot Jazz, Blackout, Optimus Prime, and Ratchet, no molding was changed on this toy. However, the figure boasts a metallic finish, making the toy a vibrant silver with painted bronze highlights for greater film accuracy.
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*'''Battle Jazz vs Megatron''' (2008)
[[Image:Robotheroesjazzmegatron.jpg|right|150px|thumb|PRIIIIIIME!]]
:The second mold, sharing no parts with the first release. His right arm has transformed into the mace, and he's posed just after slamming it into the ground (with impact "explosion" molded in). The head is the "final" head design, but the toy has many outbursts of blue, either to make a more exciting deco or evoke him being "recently thawed". Sadly, he is only articulated at the neck and LEFT shoulder, denying the world adorable mace bonking.
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*'''Autobot Skids and Megatron''' (2009)
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[[Image:Robotheroesmegatronfallenprimejetfireironhide.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Say hello to my GIGANTIC-ASS friend!]]
*'''Battle for the Fallen''' (box set, 2009)
:This ''Robot Heroes'' box set of figures comes with [[The Fallen]], Megatron (tank mode), [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] combined, and Ironhide (truck mode). Megatron proooobably has no articulation.

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[[Image:RobotHeroes_BattlefortheAllspark.jpg|300px|thumb|right|]]
*'''Battle for the Allspark''' (2009)
:A redeco of the second ''Robot Heroes'' mold is included in this set representing the battle of [[Mission City]] along with a redeco of Decepticon Brawl, along with new figures of Ratchet (with his saw), [[Sam Witwicky]] with the All Spark Cube, Optimus Prime, Starscream and Bumblebee in vehicle mode.

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==Trivia==
[[Image:Movie Megatron olduglyface.jpg|right|200px|thumb|I'm blind!]]
* When the 2007 Bristol Comic Expo's Transformers panel got onto how fiddly the Movie designs were, Megatron was singled out as a prime example; one of the ''panel'' referred to him as "a walking chandelier". <ref>[http://panelborders.wordpress.com/2007/07/30/podcast-transformers-and-now/ Panel Borders (click "Download This Episode Now" link as others go to the wrong podcast)]</ref>
* The prototype photographs on the back of Leader and Voyager class Megatrons' packaging show him with a completely different head based upon an earlier version of CGI design (seen on the right) that was dropped after much negative fan reaction.
* According to The Movie Guide, Megatron is one of the few Transformers capable of space travel without reverting to a Protoform. This explains how he was capable of chasing the All Spark ''immediately'' after its launch.
* According to [[The Quest For the Allspark]] paperback's opening paragraph, "...Most revered were Optimus and Megatron. They were twin brothers of the Prime dynasty." This implies that Megatron may have also had the surname "Prime" at one time.
* Early script drafts and a [[Optimus Prime Versus Megatron|children's picture book]] featured Megatron consuming the [[spark]]s of his fallen foes, but this didn't make it into the final film due to time constraints. The novelisation of the movie, on the other hand, sees him chow down on Jazz in the final battle; similarly, although not outright stated in dialogue, his animalistic pouncing on the fallen bodies of various characters (including Optimus Prime, Starscream, Jazz and the [[Create-A-Bot (Decepticon)|Decepticon Create-A-Bot]]) in the Movie Nintendo DS games, following by what appears to be rooting around in their innards, seems to suggest he's doing the same there.
* Similarly, in the ''Autobots'' version of the same DS game, it is noted that Megatron "took the spark" of his and Optimus' father. Presumably, this is a reference to both his cannibalistic practises as well as the fact that both he and Prime are in fact brothers, at least in the Cybertronian sense.
* Despite his undeniable hatred of humans, Megatron is the only Decepticon in the movie who doesn't speak [[Cybertronian languages|Cybertronian]] for the majority of his dialogue. In fact, he speaks ''fluent'' English upon reviving, despite the fact that [[wikipedia:Modern English|Modern English]] came into existence around the Sixteenth century, when he was presumably still frozen in the ice. This could suggest that he still was somehow conscious when he was studied by Sector Seven (which he also overtly states upon awakening in the IDW comic adaptation). This would explain why his first action after thawing was declaring his name - imagine being frozen for generations being referred to as "N.B.E. 1", or even worse: "Mega-man" ''and'' "Ice-man".
* The Megatron computer generated model consisted of 2411 individual pieces, 433,949 polygons, 8924 rig nodes, and 1437 texture maps. The pieces combined gave a volume of 10,325 cubic feet.<ref>Robertson, Barbara (2007). Heavy Metal. ''Computer Graphics, 30''(7), 12-17.</ref>
* [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] from ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]'' has apparently stolen this Megatron's head, at least for the [[Transform and Roll Out|first episode]].
* There are some problems with Simmons' statement about various technologies being reverse-engineered from Megatron. Cars came about in one shape or form at about the turn of the century, and spaceflight technology was pioneered by German and Soviet scientists. Of course, Simmons isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, so he could be exaggerating. They'll always have ''[[Ghost 1]]'' though.
*It was decided that Megatron would not be renamed Galvatron in [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]] for the sake of the general audience.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-229.html#post3421064 Roberto Orci answers fan questions on the TFW2005 boards.]
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*While the [[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe|Revenge Of The Fallen Movie Universe]] creates the idea that Megatron is a triple changer that alternates between his robot, jet, and tank modes, there is absolutely nothing to support this in the movie. Throughout the entire film, he only transforms into a winged tank portrayed by the Voyager figure and is more than capable of flying in said mode.
*Megatron may have been a descendent of a Prime, because only a Prime can kill a Prime, and Megatron killed Optimus. This might not make sense, because Sam killed Megatron. However he used the Allspark, the most powerful MacGuffin in the Movie continuity, which therefore appears to trump being a Prime. More on this Movie Plot Device Ladder Match as it develops.

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==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/2007/Decepticon/Megatron/megatron.htm Megatron at TFU.info]

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Jetfire (Movie)

2009-07-17T11:17:13Z

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:''Jetfire is a [[Decepticon]] and [[Autobot]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:ROTF_Jetfire.jpg|thumb|350px|Get off my lawn, you young whippersnappers!]]

In his day, '''Jetfire''' was a living legend. Sadly, his day has long since past. His body went south years back. His bunny is dead on the wheel. He's got rust in places he didn't even know he had. Basically, Jetfire's old! An ancient Decepticon [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]], Jetfire was around long before the war broke out, and unlike many, came to see his "comrades" for what they were. This caused him to defect to the Autobots, something virtually unheard of. He's a fine asset, powerful and possessing the ability to teleport across great distances. This is slightly offset by the fact he's so old, his processor gave up the ghost millennia ago. These days he has a hard enough time remembering his name. It makes him a bit crotchety and also leaves him with the nagging feeling he's forgotten something important.

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==Fiction==
===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
[[Image:Defiance4_Jetfire.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Hopefully I won't end up on some [[earth|godforsaken planet]] and be infested with [[Maximal|disgusting little critters.]]]]
In the distant past, the [[All Spark (Movie)|All Spark]] Cube created [[Thirteen original Transformers|a race]] of powerful, trans-dimensional beings as the first inhabitants of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. The Cube gave these beings mighty powers, as well as terraforming their world, but it was not limitless, and gradually became depleted. The first beings learned that the All Spark's power could be replenished by harvesting the energy of stars, but they were unable to locate new stars to suit their purposes, despite their amazing ability to travel between dimensions. Once again, the Cube came to the rescue, creating a race of workers, who had the ability to change their shape.

Jetfire was among the very first of these new beings, a "[[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]]" with the ability to travel across the vastness of space in search of new suns. Once located, he would lead others and his masters back to it so a [[Solar harvester|harvester]] could be constructed to drain the energy of these stars, thus replenishing the All Spark. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 4|Defiance #4}} It is assumed that at some point during the civil war on Cybertron, he sided with [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], the new protege of Jetfire's only surviving ancient master, [[The Fallen]].
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===''Revenge of the Fallen'' film===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Mark Ryan]] (English), [[Hisao Egawa]] (Japanese), [[Engelbert von Nordhausen]] (German)

{{spoiler|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|7/24/09}}

[[Image:ROFT Jetfire Bay clip.jpg|thumb|250px|Rust in my aft you say!?]]

For many years, a dormant Jetfire had hidden in his alternate mode at the [[wikipedia:Smithsonian Institution|Smithsonian]] [[wikipedia:National Air and Space Museum|National Air and Space Museum]]'s [[wikipedia:Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center|Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center]], until [[Seymour Simmons]], [[Sam Witwicky]], [[Mikaela Banes]], [[Leo Spitz]] and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] broke in with a small fragment of the [[All Spark]]. The surge of energy awoke him, and the cantankerous old robot wandered outside, pausing only to bang his head on the door. Confused and disoriented, only the efforts of the [[human]]s and an [[Wheelie (ROTF)|ex-Decepticon]] brought his senses back. Jetfire revealed that during the war he had joined the Autobots and upon hearing the name of the Fallen, he teleported the entire group (including [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], [[Skids (ROTF)|the]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|twins]], and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]]) to [[Egypt]]. Jetfire then told them the story of the [[Dynasty of Primes]] and The Fallen, Cybertron's first contact with Earth and the [[solar harvester]], a life-giving device that could destroy the [[Sun]]. He revealed that only a Prime could kill The Fallen, and was distraught to hear of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime's]] death. After Sam hit upon the idea of using the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to revive Optimus, Jetfire gave him the only clue to find the [[Tomb of the Primes]].

During the final battle around the [[Pyramid|Great Pyramid of Giza]] (which contained the Solar Harvester), Jetfire arrived and attempted to "stick" the landing, which didn't go quite as he planned. He immediately decided to "show how they brought the pain in my day", slicing [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] in half, and crushing his upper torso. He was critically wounded by a surprise attack from [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] and although he managed to kill the Decepticon, the injury was fatal. Fortunately, Jetfire was treated to one last wonder, as Sam Witwicky used the Matrix to resurrect Optimus, and Jetfire could hardly believe that he was seeing a living [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]. Unfortunately, The Fallen teleported in and attacked, stealing the Matrix and placing it in the harvester. As he lay dying, Jetfire, who felt that during his entire life he'd never done a thing worth doing, told the resurrected Optimus Prime to take his parts and "discover a power like you've never known". Telling Optimus to fulfill his destiny, Jetfire ripped out his spark core and died. With help from [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and [[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]], Jetfire's remains were fused with Optimus, who became more powerful than ever.

Now equipped with Jetfire's powerful weapons engines, Optimus broke through a blockade of debris The Fallen had telekinetically erected around the Pyramid and destroyed the Solar Harvester before it could be used against the Earth's Sun. After Optimus defeated Megatron and destroyed The Fallen, he quickly detached Jetfire's parts. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
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===''Revenge of the Fallen'' novel adaptation===
Immediately after arriving in Egypt, Jetfire was attacked by [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]]. Calling Jetfire a traitor, the smaller Seeker fired a few shots, but they were ineffective, and Jetfire promptly stomped him to death, muttering how he'd never liked that guy.

==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:ROTF Jetfire 2009 Legends.JPG|right|300px|thumb|It's not the years, honey, it's the mileage.]]
*'''Jetfire''' (Legends, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''EZ-05'''
[[Image:ROTF Legends Prime Jetfire combo.jpg|thumb|left|Don't I look glorious as a corpse backpack?]]
:Legends class ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' Jetfire transforms from a tiny [[Wikipedia: SR-71 Blackbird|SR-71 Blackbird]] spy plane to a sort of hunchback robot. In a bit of character design accuracy, his left arm has a cane.

:The upper fuselage of the plane mode has a thin rectangular peg to slot into the back of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Revenge of The Fallen|Legends class Optimus Prime]] to recreate the powered up mode at the end of the movie. There are no instructions on the packaging making mention of this, but they're hardly needed, as it's as simple as plugging him on and folding his wings backwards.
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====Leader Class toys====
[[Image:Jetfire ROTF leader toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|"You know, I've personally flown over 194 missions, and I was shot down in every one. Come to think of it, I've never landed a plane in my life."]]
*'''Jetfire''' (Leader, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-13'''
**''Accessories:'' Front landing gear/walking stick, rotary cannon missile launcher, projectile

:Jetfire features electronic lights and sounds. And by sounds, we mean he talks like a Yorkshireman. Seriously.
:As seen in the movie, he can combine with [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Revenge of The Fallen|Leader Class Optimus Prime]] to form Prime's powered-up mode, albeit at the cost of Optimus Prime's leg articulation. An [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-feedback/234956-rotf-leader-jetfire-pictorial-review-23.html#post3834101 alternate foot/leg configuration] can be used with not only looks more accurate, but allows decent leg articulation.

:Despite the back of the package showing two lights within Jetfire's torso, he only has one light, on his left side, while the other slot that would normally house the light is filled in with a separate plastic piece.
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====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:Jetfire ROTF FAB toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|NOBODY MOVE...I dropped me cane...]]
*'''Photon Missile Jetfire''' (Fast Action Battler, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' "Photon Missile" projectile

: [[Fast Action Battler]] Jetfire is a simplified, roughly Deluxe-sized toy of Jetfire. In vehicle mode, he transforms into a sort of cute, super-deformed SR-71 Blackbird jet. As with most ''Transformers'' toy jets, he has a fair bit of undercarriage junk from his robot mode, though not to the extent of the Leader class toy. In robot mode he has a reasonably accurate depiction of Jetfire's design, though his right arm ends in a spring-loaded projectile launcher shaped like a rotary cannon.
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====Robot Replicas====
[[Image:ROTF Robot Replica Jetfire.jpg|thumb|right|150px|With genuine simulated robo-bursitis!]]
*'''Jetfire''' (Robot Replica, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' Cane

: [[Robot Replicas]] Jetfire is a non-transformable, accurate representation of his CGI model from the film. He is highly posable, and not much else.
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==Merchandise==
===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Robotheroesmegatronfallenprimejetfireironhide.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Kinda morbid, really.]]
*'''Battle for the Fallen''' (box set, 2009)
:This ''Robot Heroes'' box set of figures comes with [[The Fallen]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] (tank mode), [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and Jetfire combined, and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] (truck mode).

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==Notes==
* Jetfire's ancient Cybertronian vehicle mode as seen in [[IDW Publishing]]'s [[Defiance issue 4|''Defiance'' #4]] bears more than a passing similarity with the starship ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'' from ''[[Beast Wars]]''.

* Jetfire is one of the few movie Transformers to mention having [[Relatives|a family]]; in fact, he claims his father was ''the'' wheel.

* In the film, Jetfire seemed to say that the reason he was extremely "elderly" was that he has gone for too long without an adequate supply of energon. Well, the fact that he was one of the first Transformers ever to live probably contributes a little; but at least the low energon explains why he is 'slowly falling apart and dying' as opposed to other 'old' bots like [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]].

* According to him (and demonstrated as well), he can access a [[Space Bridge]] to transport himself and others across vast distances in mere moments. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}

*While the Leader Class toy is advertised as being able to combine with [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] they do not combine in the movie itself, per se. Jetfire merely kills himself so that Optimus Prime can ''wear'' the parts of his corpse as extra armor and weaponry. That's right, he's [[kibble]].

*The presence of other Seekers scattered across the world is confirmed by Wheelie. However, outside of Ransack's appearance in the novel adaptation, Jetfire is the only one to play any role. You'd think a bunch of ancient, dormant Transformers scattered across the United States would be a concern.

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Sideways (ROTF)

2009-07-13T17:25:28Z

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{{disambig2|the live-action Decepticon|the Unicron-serving backstabber from every other continuity|Sideways (RID)}}
:''Sideways is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Sidewaysrotf.jpg|thumb|300px|Guess what? I'm not [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]! Had you all fooled, Didn't I?]]

Before the war, '''Sideways''' was a simple courier, not exactly a career demanding massive levels of courage. This means that in the battle against the [[Autobots]], Sideways prefers to team up with larger Decepticons. This way, his target-friendly companion takes all the heat! In fact, he generally shuns combat entirely. He's not a courageous fellow. But when he absolutely must face the enemy, he eagerly deploys the spinning saw blades on his arms.

Since he's arrived on [[Earth]], Sideways has started hanging out with the mountainous [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]]. There's few larger Decepticons to lurk in the shadow of!

{{bigquote|I'm on it. No one outruns me.|Sideways to [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]|"[[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)|Revenge of the Fallen]] PSP."}}

==Fiction==
===''Revenge of the Fallen'' (film)===
{{spoiler|Revenge of the Fallen|July 24}}
Sideways was hiding out in [[Shanghai]] when [[NEST]] came to investigate a possible Decepticon insurgence. While the soldiers and their Autobot allies were busy fighting off [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]], Sideways attempted to make his getaway. He was not entirely undetected, however, as [[William Lennox|Lennox]] sent out [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|the]] [[Skids (ROTF)|twins]] in pursuit. The twins quickly fell out of the chase and Sideways was also able to fight off Arcee after crashing directly through a building. Sideways didn't get far, and eventually met his end when [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]] engaged in pursuit, transformed, and bisected Sideways as he attempted to flee. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

==Games==
[[Image:ROTFTheGame_Sideways.jpg|right|thumb|Bite my shiny metal ass!]]
===''Revenge of the Fallen'': The Game===
:''Voice Actor:'' [[John DiMaggio]]
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==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Legends Class toys====
*'''Sideways''' (Legends, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:''

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:ROTF Deluxe Sideways.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Seriously, how could you mistake me for [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]?]]
*'''Sideways''' (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RD-05'''

:Deluxe-Class Sideways features [[Automorph]] action during the conversion from car to robot mode. When the front bumper is pressed, his front pair of wheels automatically flip underneath the hood. There is also some [[Mech Alive]]: you can see internal gears moving in his fore-arms when moving his arms, as well as a turning disk on each of his elbow. On his right arm is a spinning "saw" blade. He is probably the least film-accurate toy to date (that doesn't fall in a lesser [[Legends Class|size-class]] or different [[Movie (toyline) #Fast Transformers Fun|toy-line]]), but that doesn't make him any less awesome.

:Unlike the other on-screen characters in ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' who turn into consumer vehicles, Sideways' vehicle mode is merely an approximation of an [[wikipedia:Audi_R8|Audi R8]] and is not an accurate replica. This is because the toy vehicle, lacking Audi signage, is unlicensed. This doesn't explain why all versions of Deluxe class Sideways (hand-painted [[prototype]]s, test shots and production toys) are missing the black front lid, roof and rear hood seen on Sideways toys of other price points, and the real car. However, all of the toys are missing the unique silver stripes on top of the black areas seen on the [http://www.europeancarsblog.com/apr-audi-r8/ APR-tuned Audi R8], which was the car used in the movie.

:Yet another victim of late mold changes rampant among the 2008-2009 financial crisis, Sideways appears to have had a hinged thumb on his left hand in Hasbro stock photos whereas this is a solid section molded on to the arm on the final toy. Also, Sideways' windshield underside has two notches added that are not in any early photos nor the instructions. These notches are there ostensibly to more securely connect to Sideways' hood.

:This mold was retooled into the Deluxe class version of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Dead End (ROTF)|Dead End]].

====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:Sideways ROTF FAB toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|''"Do your arms hang low...?"'']]
*'''Magna Missile Sideways''' (Fast Action Battlers, 2009)
**''Accessories:''

:Magna Missile Sideways' robot mode has the entire sides of the car becoming his arms, making this toy even more similar to Barricade than Sideway's movie CG and Deluxe class toy robot design. Like most of the Sideways toys and merchandise (bar the Deluxe class figure), he features screen-accurate black paint on his vehicle front lid, roof and rear hood.

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==Merchandise==
===R.P.M.s - Robot Powered Machines===
====Speed Series====
[[Image:ROTFtoy-SidewaysRPM.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Sideways? More like UNDERside! OH!]]
*'''Sideways''' (R.P.M. Mini-Vehicle, 2009)
**''Number:'' '''01 of 04'''

: Number one in a series of four [[Robot Powered Machines]] [[Mini-Vehicle]] single packs, Sideways is an untransformable Hot Wheels-like car, unless you count his robot mode being sculpted and painted onto the underside of him.
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===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Robotheroessideswipesideways.jpg|right|thumb|300px|My shiny metal saw will bite ''you!'']]
*'''Sideswipe and Sideways''' (2009)
: Sideways is part of the first wave of ''[[Revenge of the Fallen]]'' ''[[Robot Heroes]]'' figures and is packaged versus [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]]. He has rotational articulation at both shoulders and extremely limited neck articulation. Curiously, he holds a chainsaw-like blade in his hand, rather than it being integrated into wheel-kibble on his wrist. However, this is pretty close to how his weapon actually works in the official video game; when Sideways fights in melee, his wheel-blades spread out to form razor-edged ovals, presumably for added reach.

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==Notes==
*Sideways's fate doesn't shine the most favorable light on the Autobots. He was never shown engaging in any hostilities, he was simply RUNNING FOR HIS FRIGGIN' LIFE from [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Autobots who don't think twice about CUTTING HIM IN HALF]] FOR SIMPLY BEING THERE. Sideways's toy bio only makes the situation worse, revealing him to be a courier who avoids combat (though his role in the game seems to refute this, as he destroys many Autobots in the early missions and is shown to be a competent fighter).

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Transformer 6-pack

2009-07-13T17:23:40Z

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The '''Transformer 6-pack''' is a tie-in variation on [[Burger King]]'s "6-pack" sandwich to promote ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' in Europe. It consists of six small sandwiches which, like the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicons]], combine to form an indominable foe to hunger. Unlike the Constructicons half have jalapeno peppers on them, the other half have onion rings and barbecue sauce. Articulation is limited, and the joints have a tendency to yield easily. In a call back to the G1 Constructicons, your friends will steal some of them and lie shamelessly about it.

==External links==
* [http://www.burgerking.co.uk/menu?producttypeid=20&productid=225 Transformer 6-pack at Burger King UK]
* [http://www.visit4info.com/advert/The-Washing-Machine-and-the-Burger-King-Tansformers-Angus-6-Pack-Burger-King/73987 Transformers 6-pack ad]

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Transformer 6-pack

2009-07-13T17:05:49Z

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The '''Transformer 6-pack''' is a tie-in variation on [[Burger King]]'s "6-pack" sandwich to promote [[Revenge of the Fallen]] in Europe. It consists of six small sandwiches which, like the [[Constructicons]], combine to form an indominable foe to hunger. Unlike the Constructicons half have jalapeno peppers on them, the other half have barbecue sauce. Articulation is limited, and the joints have a tendency to yield easily. In a call back to the G1 Constructicons, your friends will steal some of them and lie shamelessly about it.

Transformer 6-pack

2009-07-13T17:02:34Z

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The '''Transformer 6-pack'' is a tie-in variation on [[Burger King]]'s "6-pack" sandwich to promote [[Revenge of the Fallen]] in Europe. It consists of six small sandwiches which, like the [[Constructicons]], combine to form an indominable foe to hunger. Unlike the Constructicons half have jalapeno peppers on them, the other half have barbecue sauce. Articulation is limited, and the joints have a tendency to yield easily. In a call back to the G1 Constructicons, your friends will steal some of them and lie shamelessly about it.

Revenge of the Fallen (food)

2009-07-13T16:57:09Z

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To promote ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]]'', various food companies obtained licenses to produce ''Revenge of the Fallen''-themed food.

===Burger King===
*[[BBQ Double Stackticon]]
*[[Transformer 6-pack]] (Europe)
*Flame-grilled ribs (Europe)

===7-Eleven===
*[[Bumblebee Blast]]

===Mars===
*[[M&M's]]
**[[Chocl-o-bot]]
**[[Delect-o-con]]
*[[Snickers]]
**[[Nougabot]]

===Unilever===
*[[Revenge of the Fallen Ice Cream]]

===Miscellaneous===
*[[Revenge of the Fallen Celebration Cake]]

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Megatron (Movie)

2009-07-13T12:38:49Z

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:''Megatron is the [[Decepticon]] leader from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]]. He is often referred to as "Lord Megatron". Known to humans as both "The Ice Man" and "The Mega-Man" and more formally as [[Non-Biological Extraterrestrial|N.B.E.]]-01''

[[Image:Movie_Megatron_Defiance3.jpg|thumb|300px|Friends, [[Trypticon (Movie)|Trypticonians]], countrybots, lend me your audio receptors!]]

Once the [[Lord High Protector]] of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and the "[[brother]]" of the science division leader [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], '''Megatron''' is vicious, extremely powerful, single-minded in his goals, straight-forward and brutally direct. He is all "blunt force" in contrast to [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream's]] penchant for deceit and trickery. On the downside, Megatron tends to become so obsessed with the object of his desires that he can ignore "secondary" matters, glaring flaws in his plans (otherwise, he likely wouldn't have melted into ice-cold arctic water after being white hot from falling through [[Earth]]'s atmosphere, and spent ten-thousand years as a [[wikipedia:popsicle|popsicle]], and even crippling injuries in pursuit of the coveted item. Trying to talk Megatron out of blindly going for his goals is useless. He will risk his world, his troops, and even his own [[spark]] to achieve his goals; these things do not matter to Megatron. Even the destruction of the [[Autobot]]s is a secondary concern. In Megatron's cerebral processor, all that has become important are the whims of his [[The Fallen|master]] and, by extension, the [[All Spark]].

While [[Megatron (disambiguation)|some]] merely dislike or disregard humans due to the incomprehensibility of organics being a dominant life form ''anywhere'', Megatron feels a violent hatred towards them and seems to view them as only slightly above bacteria. Though his master suffered a very similar affliction due to the circumstances of his purpose of existence, Megatron's postulation is born from spending decades as a prisoner of sorts to them, causing a very extreme disdain. If there was no All Spark, it would not be much of a stretch to realize his ideals would have brought him to this planet anyway, just to cleanse one more planet of an "infection".

{{quote|You still fight for the weak! That is why ''you lose!''|Megatron to Optimus|[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]}}

==Fiction==
===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
[[Image:Defiance1 Megs Prime argument.jpg|left|350px|thumb|"Know your place, boy!"]]

High Protector Megatron, the supreme commander of the Cybertronian defense forces and firm leader of all of Cybertron, once ruled the entire planet seemingly side-by-side with Optimus Prime, protecting their world against all perceived hostile threats. For generations, the two ruled in peace—Megatron firm, with Prime being fair, creating an even (if sometimes strained) governmental balance. When Commander [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] returned from his patrol in the [[Eshems Nebula]], [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]] was reporting on his science sector's continuing excavation of the site near the temple at [[Simfur]] and the unusual pulse waves that the [[All Spark]] had been emitting ever since work began. At the excavation site, while Optimus' scientists were concerned with disturbing the ancient artifacts, all Megatron cared about was whether these relics might provide the same revitalising energy as the All Spark. He was nettled when Optimus asserted the sector's dominion over all scientific and archaeological discoveries and reminded his junior that it was his defence force that protected this world, demanding to be informed of all possible threats from the excavation's findings. When Optimus dared to remind Megatron of the military's treatment of such discoveries as hostile, Megatron told Optimus that when ''he'' tried to be the leader of Cybertron, he could make those decisions, not ''now''. When a mysterious relic was discovered, Megatron ordered it removed at once, a demand that Optimus disagreed with. Just as the pair were about to launch into another argument, Cybertron fell under attack from Nebula inhabitants. Megatron had the relic quickly moved to his quarters under the guise of protecting it from the invaders. Arriving to find [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] and [[Cliffjumper (Movie)|Cliffjumper]] seeking cover within the temple of Simfur, Megatron chastised their alleged lack of courage before he was hit by an alien tank vehicle. After destroying it, he told Starscream to keep Optimus' team out of the military's way and staggered back to his quarters in the capital of [[Trypticon (Movie)|Trypticon]]. Drawn towards the relic, he ignored his injuries and scraped away at the layers of debris encrusting it before losing consciousness. {{storylink|Defiance issue 1}}

[[Image:Defiance2_Megatron_warrally.jpg|thumb|250px|Mein Führer!]]

The relic used what little power it had left to repair Megatron's wounds. At first Megatron was angry, demanding the being to show himself to the Protector of all Cybertron. The relic explained that it was unable to do so without Megatron's help, and ''if'' he helped, the relic would make him '''Lord''' of Cybertron. The relic then fired beams of energy into Megatron's mind (turning his white optic sensors red), explaining what needed to be done, filling him with delusions of grandeur. When Optimus came looking for the Protector, Megatron had changed; he had become even more aggressive in his speech and demeanor, and what's more, he demanded Optimus gather his scientists to go to war. When Optimus explained the sector was not combat-trained, Megatron shot back that the scientists should have known what the aliens were after: the All Spark. Optimus refused, stating that the army's mission was of defense, and it went against everything their society was based upon to exacerbate war. Megatron slammed Optimus into the wall and stated that their society then needed to ''change''. He held a massive saber-rattling war rally outside Trypticon, demanding vengeance upon the alien aggressors. He claimed that until the war ended, he would assume full control of the military, and everybody would answer only to him. Megatron ordered all flight-capable Cybertronians accompany him to the Eshems Nebula, where they launched a surprise attack against the still-unknown aliens. Megatron fought his way inside the alien flagship and personally executed the alien leader. He then ordered Starscream and his units to conduct a war of genocide: ''none'' of the aliens were to survive. {{storylink|Defiance issue 2}}

[[Image:Defiance3_wearenowDECEPTICONS.jpg|thumb|left|200px|]]

Megatron returned from the front with news of their success and awaited further instructions from his master. The relic ordered Megatron to prepare the way for his return by expanding the army, and at the end, Cybertron would be Megatron's, while everything else the master's. Megatron was enraged when the relic informed him that Optimus had snooped inside his quarters while he was fighting the aliens, and convinced the Protector that Optimus was after the same power the relic had promised ''him''. Now seeing that there were "enemies" within Cybertron as well as without, Megatron arranged to have the "traitors" taken care of by ordering [[Prowl (Movie)|Prowl]]'s security team to arrest Optimus, and sent Starscream's soldiers to kill all bar Optimus. However, Megatron underestimated Optimus, who personally defeated Starscream's squad. Nonetheless, he used the survivors as propaganda that treacherous malcontents sought to betray them all, and declared that Megatron's followers would now be reformed under a new image and a new name: '''Decepticons'''.{{storylink|Defiance issue 3}}

Optimus' forces having eluded him for now, Megatron was given new orders by his master: build a [[Nemesis (ROTF)|mighty starship]] that would scour the stars for something very important to the relic's plans. The relic counseled Megatron to not make the same mistakes he did thousands of years ago, that his protege should strike without mercy or hesitation. The relic told Megatron the story of his mighty race, and how the All Spark granted them great power and created the Transformer race, but it needed to be recharged by draining the power of a sun using specially-constructed [[Solar harvester|harvester]] devices, and their under-construction starship would be used to search for the last harvester in the galaxy. When Megatron presumed to believe he would accompany his master, he was rebuked and punished. Much later, the ''Nemesis'' was finally completed, the relic praising Megatron for his fine work, and ordering him to stay behind to continue the war. Over the next thousand years, the Autobots and Decepticons clashed in a bloody struggle until Optimus Prime made his most dangerous gamble. During an assault on the Autobots personally led by Megatron and his hound, [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]], the tyrant crushed an Autobot opponent's spark before casually tossing his corpse over his shoulder. He declared that the All Spark would be his, to which Blackout assured his leader that he would personally see to it. Megatron was pleased by his minion's loyalty, but decided to dispatch him to assist Starscream's unit to prevent Optimus Prime's reinforcements from entering Tyger Pax. He then left to meet his destiny, but it slipped from his grasp; Prime had commissioned the All Spark to be launched into the abyss of outer space. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 1|Prime Directive (IDW) issue 1}} {{storylink|Planetfall}}
[[Image:Movie Megatron Targetcomic sure.jpg|left|150px|thumb|"Sit, boy — or I'll beat you to death."]]

[[Image:MovieMegatron Bumblebee torture comic.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Better get some ice on that.]]
After realizing [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] had stalled him from claiming the Cube so the operation could be completed, Megatron tore off Bumblebee's arm—removing his weapon—and crushed his voice box, destroying his vocal processors so that the young Autobot would never speak of the affront to his destiny. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 1|Prime Directive (IDW) issue 1}} Megatron, believing Prime to be a desperate, inexperienced fool, gave chase. On the way, he detected the ''Nemesis's'' distress signal and soon found the mighty starship on a barren world, abandoned by all but his master. Megatron was berated for allowing the Cube to slip away from his grasp and ordered to thoroughly continue his chase. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 4}} As Megatron tracked the All Spark through space, he mused about his reasons for the war and how he and his "brother" were not all that different, as seen by Optimus' sentencing their home to a slow death by launching the Cube into space. Tracing the All Spark via energy signature to [[Earth|a primitive world]], he lost contact with it upon atmospheric entry and crashed into the planet's icy northern pole. Low on [[Energon (fuel)|energon]], his safety buffers exhausted, Megatron went into stasis lock. Millennia later, [[Archibald Witwicky]], the leader of the National Arctic Circle Expedition, discovered Megatron buried deep in the ice. Unfortunately, the soon-blinded Witwicky was eventually driven insane by what he saw, attracting the attention of a mysterious [[Sector Seven|group]] that sought to discredit his story and seize the mysterious "Ice Man". Six years later, they found the Cube. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 2|Prime Directive (IDW) issue 2}}

In the Earth year of 1935, Megatron was moved to [[Hoover Dam]], in extremely close proximity to the All Spark's final resting place, where he would remain imprisoned for the next seven decades. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 3|Prime Directive (IDW) issue 3}}

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===''Transformers: Beginnings''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]]

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{{note|Transformers: Beginnings is a condensed flash-animated retelling of IDW's first movie prequel comic series.}}

===Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comic===

[[Image:MegatronMovie_GeoffSenior.jpg|right|150px|thumb|''The Beast and its armies shall rise from the pit to make war against God.'']]

The All Spark had not been blindly launched into space, however—its trajectory was leading it directly towards the [[Alkaris Anomaly]], a wormhole that could potentially transport the cube to any one of an infinite number of locations in the universe. Megatron was fully capable of catching up to the cube before it would enter the wormhole, but as he passed Cybertron's moon, he found himself ensnared by an Autobot tractor beam of remarkable strength that pulled him down to the moon's surface.

Enraged by the ignominy of it all, Megatron turned his weapons on the Autobots responsible, but quickly calmed down enough to realize that this was only playing into their hands, and instead ordered [[Brawl (Movie)|Devastator]] to take his place in the battle. Megatron swooped back into space, hot on the All Spark's heels, but was unable to stop the cube from falling through the anomaly. Determined to have the All Spark's power, Megatron chose to enter the wormhole himself, only to be spat out in some far-off star system, with no trace of the All Spark... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2}}

''This led into Prime Directive #2.''

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In another reality, he defeated Optimus at [[Mission City]], killed Sam Witwicky and took control of the All Spark. He was fully linked to it and drew on its power—"It is me and I am it!"—giving him greater might and the ability to heal any wound. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 12|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 4}}

After conquering an unknown chunk of Earth (including the entire [[United States of America]]) with [[Dropkick]] as his second-in-command, he used the All Spark's power to start turning Earth from an organic world into a new Cybertron. Optimus Prime lay frozen in the [[Hoover Dam|old Sector Seven base]], Autobot resistance was scattered, and NATO's threat to nuke occupied America was hardly much of one. [[Image:Megatron Bumbleslap.jpg|left|350px|thumb|"''Sigh'' Even mindless violence seems boring today..."]] The only thing bothering Megatron was those rebels breaking into Hoover Dam... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 1}}

Megatron personally arrived to face [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] and hunted for him, trying to bait him into appearing. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 10|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 2}} Realising the Autobot must have come with a human ally, he deliberately threatened to go after the human and thus got an emotional Bumblebee to make a defiant attack... at which point he backhanded Bumblebee into the wall and prepared to eviscerate him. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 11|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 3}} He gave the Autobot a chance at a swift death if he begged for mercy, and was quite impressed when Bumblebee merely asked "that all you got?", but was less impressed when Autobot reinforcements arrived. [[Image:Megatron Titan12.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Megatron's BDSM Dungeon just wasn't meeting expectations.]] He effortlessly smashed them aside and was about to kill [[Skyblast (Movie)|Skyblast]] when a new challenger arrived: the revived Optimus! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 12|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 4}}

Optimus Prime got the snot beaten out of him, every attack he landed on Megatron being repaired by All Spark power. However, he distracted Megatron long enough for Bumblebee to hit him with the ''other'' thing they'd broken into the Dam for: Sector Seven's greatest weapon, a nanovirus that targeted All Spark operation frequencies. Infected, the tyrant was consumed from within by his own power and collapsed dead. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 13|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 5}}

Or so it appeared. He'd downloaded his mind into the All Spark interface module, knowing Starscream would take it and assimilate it into himself. And so Megatron was able to be a voice in Starscream's head for weeks and weeks—and finally, when Starscream had suffered a setback and wanted a plan to stop the Autobots, Megatron gave him one: to let him out... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 22|The Decepticon Who Haunted Himself}}

While Starscream didn't, he ''did'' follow Megatron's tactical suggestions. He had the Decepticons use both carrot (promise of truce) ''and'' stick (multiple attacks) to make the US government, prompted by [[Theodore Allen|the mind-controlled President Allen]], boot out the Autobots—and then nuke them as they left, giving the Decepticons a clear shot at reconquest! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|Revolution Part 1}} This plan backfired when [[Stockade (Movie)|Stockade]] intervened, and Megatron visited a broken, gibbering Starscream to once again tell him the only way out was to release him and let him walk the Earth again. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 24|Revolution Part 2}}
[[Image:Starscreamseesthings_Titan25.jpg|left|350px|thumb|''You're looking throooough me...'']]

This time Starscream ''did''... much to his dismay when he realised what he'd done. And so, when Stockade's New Decepticons stormed the [[Decepticon Heartland]], Megatron was there to "greet" them with fiery death!

Megatron fought Stockade in single combat, and [[Nucleon]]-fueled punches rained down on him—only for him to ''grab'' a punch and use the momentum to hurl his opponent, berating him for lacking clear ambition to support his strength. This fight would've carried on except then the Autobots turned up. Trashing a rebellion, conquering Earth, ''and'' killing Optimus Prime in one day?! WOOOOO!

But Optimus drew first blood, and before Megatron could truly fight back, he was forcibly teleported with his Decepticons to Cybertron. A dead Cybertron. A dead Cybertron that itself teleported to an unknown area of space, leaving them trapped with no way back and no way off, ''forever''.

{{bigquote|'''PRIIIIIME!'''}}

{{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 25|Revolution Part Three}}

===''Ghosts of Yesterday'' prequel novel===
"The Ice Man" was kept in deep freeze by [[Sector Seven]] in their super-secret [[Sector Seven High Arctic Base|High Arctic Base]] until they decided to move him closer to the [[All Spark|Allspark]] in 1969. The convoy was disrupted when the driver of the lead truck spun out causing the rest of the vehicles to pile up on the icy roads. It was determined later that the driver was the [[Soviet Union|Soviet]] spy [[Sergei Tasarov]] who had taken the place of the Sector Seven agent Peter Hodgson.

While the convoy prepared their defenses and a Soviet strike force attacked trying to obtain the Ice Man.

When Megatron came partially online, it was obvious that some time had passed. Not only was he encased in a primitive transport, but there were [[Human|lifeforms]] fighting over him. Before Megatron could properly exterminate them, another crude transport crashed into his, causing a massive (but not spark-threatening) explosion. Megatron would have been pleased to know that the fire only added to his terrifying visage in the eyes of the maggots. Regaining his composure, Megatron noticed [[Phillip Nolan|an insect]] standing near him. As Megatron reached out to grab it, [[Thomas Kinnear|another insect]], this one terminally damaged, began firing crude projectiles which his body armor easily deflected. Waiting until after the creature had expended its ammunition, Megatron grabbed it in his hand, only to discover that it had packed itself with explosives, which threw Megatron to the ground when they detonated. Then, the aforementioned first insect began spraying liquid nitrogen on Megatron, causing him to go back into stasis. Unable to escape, Megatron screamed a dark vengeance upon his captors. {{storylink|Ghosts of Yesterday}}

===''Transformers'' (2007 movie)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Hugo Weaving]] (English), [[Kōtarō Nakamura]] (Japan), [[José Santacruz]] (Brazil), [[Hans-Jürgen Wolf]] (German)

[[Image:Movie2007_Megatron_ArchibaldWitwicky.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Oh baby you know just the spot to turn me on!]]

Megatron eventually succeeded in tracking the All Spark to [[Earth]], where he rather embarrassingly crash-landed in the Arctic Circle and was frozen solid for thousands of years. In 1897, some 100 Earth-years before the arrival of the other Transformers, he was discovered by an explorer named [[Archibald Witwicky|Archibald Amundsen Witwicky]]. Captain Witwicky accidentally activated Megatron's navigation system and caused the coordinates of the All Spark to be etched onto the explorer's glasses. Megatron remained imprisoned in the Arctic, until the 1930s, when he was dug out by the United States government and moved to a secret [[Sector Seven]] stronghold inside [[Hoover Dam]]. In the years that followed, many modern devices (by Earth standards) were reverse-engineered from his frozen body.

[[Image:Movie Megatron breakout.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Mace isn't for spraying, it's for hitting.]]

In the present day, having searched the galaxy for the All Spark and being drawn to Earth, the remaining Decepticons learned of Witwicky's glasses. Through the Internet, they determined the location of both Megatron and the All Spark inside Hoover Dam. [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] infiltrated the dam and shut down the power systems, while Starscream attacked the external powerlines, resulting in Megatron's thawing out. Once again online, the leader of the Decepticons informed the worthless insects of his true name, shouting "I am Megatron!" (to clear up all that N.B.E.-01/Ice Man nonsense), randomly killed a few of them while destroying his former prison, then transformed and flew off after the All Spark again. He met up with Starscream on the outside, and, never one for pleasantries, demanded to know where the Cube was. Upon learning that the humans had moved the All Spark, Megatron berated Starscream for yet another failure.

[[Image:Movie2007_Megatron_Starscream.jpg|thumb|left|250px|You fail me once again Starscream... will I ever meet [[Starscream (Shattered Glass)|a Starscream that is truly loyal?]]]]

After Starscream and Devastator's opening attacks in [[Mission City]], Megatron arrived, and again declared his name (he really wants people to know who he is). The Autobots were so panicked by the sight of their long lost nemesis that [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] called for a temporary retreat. Megatron blasted [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] away when the diminutive Autobot attempted to attack, then threw him into the air before crushing him on top of a tower with his clawed talons. Jazz vainly fought on, asking if Megatron wanted a "piece", but doing little damage to Megatron. The Decepticon leader killed the Autobot by tearing him in half, callously declaring that he wanted "two".

[[Image:Movie Megatron jetmode cityfight.jpg|250px|thumb|Whoa, that energon's not settling too well.]]

As [[Sam Witwicky|the human boy]] ran off with the All Spark, Megatron ordered the Decepticons to [[Decepticons, attack|attack]]. Devastator attacked the armed insects, while Starscream and [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] fought [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and Ratchet for the All Spark. At that moment, Optimus Prime appeared and challenged Megatron. Millennia in the ice had done nothing to lessen the animosity Megatron felt for his brother, however. Barely managing to growl out Prime's name, he transformed and flew at Prime at full speed. The Autobot leader leapt and grabbed a hold of Megatron, who slammed him into a building before flying right through a skyscraper. Both leaders landed in the middle of an intersection, but Megatron was the first to recover and leaped upon his brother, snarling that the humans were undeserving of life. Optimus Prime replied that they had the right to choose for themselves before he threw his brother off. Megatron declared that if Prime wished to defend them, he should "join them in extinction", forming his [[fusion cannon]]. Before he could fire, the Autobot leader drew his [[ion blaster]] and fired, hitting Megatron. The Decepticon leader shrugged off this attack, spun around from the momentum and fired his cannon, throwing Optimus Prime into the side of a building.

[[Image:Movie Megatron Samonroof.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Oh look I found a stray human... wonder if I can keep him as a pet... come on boy, don't be scared. I'll take you to a new home.]]

Megatron pursued the young human who had removed the All Spark from Hoover Dam, destroying everything that stood in his way. The boy ran to a dilapidated building that was the designated coordinates for a human military evacuation team, and Megatron smashed his way through, yelling that he could smell the human maggot. Starscream destroyed the helicopter intended to take the All Spark, and Megatron burst through the floor, inquiring if it was courage or fear that compelled him. Finally cornering him on a ledge, Megatron offered that if the human gave him the All Spark, the boy might live as [[Ravage (G1)|his]] [[Laserbeak (G1)|pet]]. The Decepticon leader relished the human's defiant refusal and destroyed the ledge the human was standing upon, sending the boy tumbling to the ground.

[[Image:Movie2007_Prime_Megatron.jpg|thumb|250px|Get up, so I can knock you back down!]]

Unfortunately, the human was caught by Optimus Prime, who then tried to escape down the side of the building before Megatron tackled him and sent all three slamming into the pavement. As a nearby [[Michael Bay|human bystander]] attempted to run, the Decepticon expressed his disgust at the insect's proximity and flicked it away. Protecting the young boy, Prime declared that their war would end here and it was now just between the two brothers. Though lusting for the All Spark, Megatron decided to indulge his brother's obvious death wish, declaring that only he was in this fight. Despite Optimus Prime's best efforts, Megatron was relentless, matching the Autobot leader with blow after devastating blow until he collapsed. Adding insult to injury, Megatron informed Prime that his defense of the "weak" was the real reason he lost.

[[Image:Megatron allspark merge.JPG|left|250px|thumb|Oh, he's dead. There's no way this will make him [[Galvatron (disambiguation)|even]] [[Galvatron (G1)|more]] [[Megatron (RID)|powerful.]]]]

The Decepticon leader turned his attention back to the human boy, but was suddenly attacked by the human fighter jets and [[William Lennox|Captain Lennox]]'s ground soldiers firing sabot rounds. Optimus took this chance, striking Megatron and knocking him down. His armor a damaged, shattered mess, Megatron ignored the punishment and focused on the human boy, growling that he would kill the boy and that the All Spark was his. As Optimus Prime ordered the boy to place the All Spark into his chest, the human instead pushed it into the now-exposed [[spark]] in Megatron's chest, overloading him with energy and extinguishing the Decepticon's life force. As Optimus Prime stood over Megatron's lifeless shell, watching the light flicker out of his brother's [[Sensors#Optical sensors|optics]], he remarked somberly, yet remorsefully, that Megatron had left him no choice, and removed a shard of the All Spark from his brother's spark cavity.

Megatron's body was dumped into the [[Laurentian Abyss]] at its deepest point, along with the remains of the other Decepticons, where the near-freezing temperatures would, hopefully, keep them dormant indefinitely. {{storylink|Transformers (2007)|Transformers}}
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===Toy bios===
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Megatron was ''born'' evil, always wanting domination of everything. {{storylink|#Voyager Class toys|Voyager Megatron}} His fiery diatribes still managed to sway thousands, however. {{storylink|#Robot Replicas|Robot Replica Megatron}}

At some point, he took a stealth mode so he could attack Optimus without warning. {{storylink|#Fast Action Battlers|Night Attack Megatron}}

When frozen on Earth, he remained vaguely conscious and remembers a few things from when he warmed up slightly. At one point, his body was worshipped as a god by [[protohuman]]s. {{storylink|#Voyager Class toys|Premium Series Megatron}}

===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
In the aftermath of the battle in Mission City, [[Sector Seven]] hauled away Megatron's corpse along with the other Decepticon bodies. The clandestine human organisation brought the bodies to a secret facility in the Nevada desert, with the intention of getting every bit of information they can out of the dead Decepticons before they were forced to dump them into the sea. {{storylink|Alliance issue 1}} When he arrived to oversee the burial of those who fell in Mission City, Optimus Prime noticed the surviving All Spark fragment glowed when near Megatron's body, and gave it to [[Professor Vine]] for safekeeping. {{storylink|Alliance issue 2}} Weeks later, Megatron, along with Blackout, was dumped into the Laurentian Abyss. {{storylink|Alliance issue 3}}
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===''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Hugo Weaving]] (English), [[Kōtarō Nakamura]] (Japan), [[Hans-Jürgen Wolf]] (German)
{{spoiler|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|July 24, 2009}}

[[Image:ROTFMegatronRising.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Now, where's Starscream? I want to give him a piece of my mind.]]

[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] tapped into a conversation between [[NEST]] and General [[Morshower]], listening to Director [[Theodore Galloway]] mention that 1) a shard of the [[All Spark]] was in storage in [[Diego Garcia]] and 2) Megatron's body lay in the [[Laurentian Abyss]]. [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] was sent to steal the shard, and swam to the Abyss with [[Scalpel]], [[Long Haul (ROTF)|Long Haul]], [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]], [[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]] and [[Ze little one|another Constructicon]]. Scalpel ordered spare parts be used to repair Megatron's body with the unnamed Constructicon, who was torn apart by his larger brethren, and then struck Megatron with the shard: the Decepticon leader was reborn as a Cybertronian tank with flight capabilities. Megatron flew up to the surface, striking a submarine on his way, before journeying into space to find the ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]''.

On the ruined ship, Megatron chastised [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] for leaving him to die on Earth, although Starscream defended that he had to take care of the [[hatchlings]], who were dying without [[energon (fuel)|energon]]. Megatron met up with [[the Fallen]], who was free of his sarcophagus but still weakened and in a life support chair. Megatron told his master he had failed to secure the All Spark, but The Fallen told of another energon source on Earth, which had been hidden with the mind of the boy who killed Megatron. Before they could act, however, Megatron was ordered to kill [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], who was the last of the [[Dynasty of Primes]], which made him the only one that could kill the Fallen.

[[Image:ROTFPrimePunch.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Not the face! Don't hurt the face!]]

Megatron sprang a trap, dispatching [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] to take [[Sam Witwicky]], [[Mikaela Banes]] and [[Leo Spitz]] to him at an abandoned factory. Although Megatron would have rather killed Sam slowly and painfully, Sam had valuable information as to the energon source's location in his mind, which he had received from his own All Spark fragment. Scalpel's probes confirmed The Fallen's claims, and Megatron ordered Scalpel to get it out. Just as Scalpel was ready to dissect Sam's brain, Optimus and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] burst in to rescue the humans. Optimus drove Sam to a forest, with Megatron in hot pursuit. The Autobot and Decepticon leaders transformed and battled as Sam fled. Starscream and Grindor arrived to aid their commander, as Megatron told Prime that Sam could lead them to another energon source. Kicking off his [[mouthplate]] and blasting him, Megatron asked Prime if the boy was worth the future of the Cybertronians. Prime replied that he'd never stop at one, then took on all three Decepticons. Surprisingly, he was winning, stabbing Megatron multiple times. As a weary Prime tore Grindor apart, Megatron stabbed him in the back and blasted him: Prime fell, mortally wounded. As Megatron moved for the boy, the rest of the Autobots arrived and provided enough cover for Bumblebee to spirit Sam away. Already injured from the battle with Prime, Megatron and Starscream were forced to retreat.

[[Image:ROTF_movie_MegatronStarscream_roofchat.jpg|thumb|right|250px|"That's IT! No more Mr. Nice Megatron!" "But you were never-" "SHUT UP!"]]

With Prime dead, Megatron decided it was time to end their secret war, and had the rejuvenated Fallen broadcast a message to deliver Sam to them across the planet. Megatron himself broadcasted the Fallen's message by rewiring the [[Empire State Building]]'s radio tower.

[[Image:ROTFMegatronSam.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Hey, he stole my purse! Wallet! I mean wallet!]]

He then flew to [[Egypt]], where nineteen thousand years before, the Fallen had built a [[Solar harvester]] to harness the [[Sun]] for energon. Megatron ordered [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] to destroy the pyramid that was built over the harvester, while he himself chased Sam for the [[Matrix of Leadership]], which would activate the harvester. Megatron almost killed Sam, but was overwhelmed by human gunfire, and flew off. The Fallen managed to take the Matrix and activate the harvester, but it had already been used to resurrect Optimus. Optimus combined with [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] and destroyed the harvester, leading to a two on one match with Megatron and the Fallen battling Prime. This one went better for Optimus than the last one, as he used Megatron's own cannon to blast half his face off, and then severed the arm. Finally, Optimus used his afterburners to send Megatron hurtling through some ruins, ending his role in the battle. Megatron was so damaged he could barely call out for "Tharscweam!", but it soon mattered little as Optimus Prime killed the Fallen. Horrified at the loss of the power behind the Decepticons, Megatron acknowledged Starscream's advice that they should flee, but noted that "This is ''not'' over."

{{note|Adaptations based on early drafts of the script show Megatron hoped to become a Prime under the Fallen. However, during Optimus' final battle with the ancient villain, he revealed Primes were born, not made. Here, Megatron was angered that he had been misled, refusing to aid his master and vowed never to serve anyone again. Optimus is revealed to be an orphan who was "hidden" from The Fallen, further indicating he is not biologically related to Megatron. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (novel)}} {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen Movie Adaptation}}}}

{{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers'' The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]]

====Autobot campaign====
After arriving at Hoover Dam, Bumblebee saw Megatron and the All Spark being held in the same room, which was guarded by lasers. After bringing down the lasers, Bumblebee managed to shrink the All Spark, while under fire by Megatron. Following the Autobots to Mission City, Megatron ignominiously "flicked" Bumblebee away, then tried to grab the All Spark from Sam. Optimus Prime arrived and the two fought in the Mission City park. After Prime believed that he had destroyed Megatron, Sam handed the All Spark to Prime, but Megatron jumped into the air with his flail, making one last attempt at nailing Prime. Prime caught the flail in its path and yanked Megatron towards him, shoving the All Spark into his chest. Pretty ruthless there, Prime, pretty ruthless. {{storylink|Transformers The Game (console)|Transformers The Game}}

====Decepticon campaign====
After learning Megatron's location, Blackout and Starscream sabotaged the dam's power, allowing Megatron to thaw out and awaken. After Megatron emerged, Starscream and Blackout bowed before their Lord, who declared that they had much to do. After the Decepticons dispatched the Autobots, Megatron, hoping to draw Prime out, went on a rampage in Mission City, declaring that the city would burn beneath his feet (this means toastie toes, but he's willing to make that sacrifice). Megatron and Prime played a game of cat and mouse, with Megatron tracking Prime and Sam, until Megatron finally destroyed Prime, then merged the All Spark with his spark, becoming even more powerful in the process (...wait, what?). After decimating Earth, Megatron took the [[Abraham Lincoln|Lincoln Memorial]] as his throne, then ordered Starscream, Brawl, and Barricade to finish the planet, before going on to conquer the galaxy. {{storylink|Transformers The Game (console)|Transformers The Game}}

===''Transformers: Autobots''===
Having landed on Earth some thousands of years ago, Megatron is thought to be frozen somewhere in the Arctic. As the Autobots look for clues as to his location, they eventually arrive in the frozen desert long enough to realize the humans have found him, as well as the [[All Spark|AllSpark]] (sic). Once they hack into the communications array at the base, they find documentation leading to the Hoover Dam, where the Autobots and Decepticons race. Some wishing to free him, most hoping to destroy him, the Transformers fight over the base until the Decepticon leader is finally freed. Once out of cryo-storage, Megatron proceeds to steal the AllSpark from the Autobots and begin a destructive rampage through Tranquility, until he is finally defeated by Optimus Prime and [[Create-A-Bot (Autobot)|Create-A-Bot]]. {{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Autobots}}

===''Transformers: Decepticons''===
With Megatron frozen in the Hoover Dam, the Decepticons fight to free their leader. However, as is quickly made apparent, Starscream and his young protege, a [[Create-A-Bot (Decepticon)|Create-A-Bot]], seek to eliminate their leader. This quickly changes, as Create-A-Bot is convinced by Barricade to free their commander, as Starscream is a back-stabbing bureaucrat while Megatron is a truly zealous leader. Even though both would kill you in an instant, Megatron would at least do it to your face so you could see it coming.

Once free, Megatron quickly takes the time to wipe out Jazz, who has been left at the bridge to help get rid of Megatron. After a fairly short battle, Megatron smashes Jazz into the dirt, leaving him to die. Back in Tranquility, he chases after Starscream, only to be blocked by [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]. Once the sibling rivalry is finished, Prime is left in pieces in the streets of Tranquility.

Arriving in the Casino Strip, Megatron finds Create-A-Bot damaged and Starscream flying away. Giving chase, he attacks his traitorous second-in-command, nearly destroying him despite his awesome All Spark driven powers. Starscream uses his last breath to insult Megatron before being killed by the tyrant. Returning to Create-A-Bot's side, Megatron takes a moment to call him a weakling and a failure, completely forgetting about the fact that Create-A-Bot saved him, led him to Starscream, destroyed the Autobots, and served him more loyally than most of his other followers. Taking a moment to let this sink in, Megatron went on to tell him that the weak are made to serve the strong, then ripped the young Decepticon apart and ate his Spark. Megatron then took off into the sky with intentions unknown. {{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Decepticons}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen:'' The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]]
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==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:Movie Legends Megatron toy.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Just what the hell do I turn into?]]
*'''Megatron''' (Legends Class, 2007)
**''Japanese name:'' '''EZ Collection Megatron'''
:Legends class Megatron is the smallest mainline ''Movie'' Megatron toy, and boy, does it show. Even with Megatron's relatively simple transformation sequence, the sheer simplicity of the Legends class toy means that his vehicle mode is basically his robot mode splayed out, and again, boy is it ''obvious''. His robot mode is passably accurate, if by accurate one means he is now a hunchback with wings for legs, Dustbusters for hands, and an unchanged Alien Queen-esque head design.
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*'''Generations Legends''' (Target exclusive multi-pack, 2007)
[[Image:TargetGenerationsLegends.jpg|thumb|Megatron is quite beside himself.]]
:A Target exclusive, this four-pack of Legends Class figures contains two versions of both Optimus Prime and Megatron, namely [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Legends of Cybertron Optimus Prime]], [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Movie Legends Optimus Prime]], [[Megatron (Armada)|Legends of Cybertron Megatron]] and Movie Legends Megatron.
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[[Image:Movie Allspark Legends pack.jpg|right|150px|thumb|"Quick, Bumblebee! You hold up Megatron, I'll just fight with the others!" "...I hate you."]]
*'''Battle for the Allspark''' (Toys'R'Us exclusive multi-pack, 2007)
:A Toys'R'Us exclusive, this six-pack of Legends Class figures contains unmodified toys of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]], [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], Megatron, [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]].
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[[Image:Movie Legends JazzIceMegatron toys.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Wow, those guys sure do grow up fast... No, wait. They're still puny.]]
*'''Battle Jazz vs. Ice Megatron''' (Legends multi-pack, 2008)
:Ice Megatron is a, well, ice-themed redeco of Legends class Megatron, which means his black paint applications have been replaced by blue. He comes packed with yet another redeco of Legends class Jazz, this time "battle damaged".
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====Voyager Class toys====
[[Image:Movie Voyager Megatron toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Hey, I think I'm as weird as the War Within figures!... Nah, not there yet.]]
*'''Megatron''' (Voyager Class, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-14'''
**''Accessories:'' Projectile
:Voyager Class Megatron transforms into an ice-covered version of his Cybertronic jet, with transparent blue plastic forming large portions of his vehicle mode, such as parts of his wings. This ice design is carried onto his robot mode, with his legs, shoulders and chest having some kind of 'ice' plastic covering them. With a significantly different (and simple compared to other figures of the same pricepoint) transformation sequence compared to his earlier Leader class toy, his chest frost lowers and his shoulders raise to robot mode position when you bring his lower body forward thanks to [[Automorph Technology|Automorph]] technology. He also has his fusion cannon in its entirety on his left arm. His wings feature flip-out "ice blades", and pulling on a piece in the back of his jet mode brings them forward like pincer claws. This design is remarkably similar to his Predacon- incarnation toys.

:Something interesting to note is that his feet are entirely spring-loaded, which means his foot and the two "rear toes" on each feet automatically close up when he's not standing up. Surprisingly, this helps a lot with the posing, as the feet's parts automatically position themselves for the perfect balance.
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[[Image:Movie Voyager Premium Megatron.jpg|right|250px|thumb|]]
*'''Megatron''' ("Premium Series" Voyager Class, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Projectile
:One of the first figures available in the ''Premium Series'' (although not explicitly identfied on the packaging as such), Voyager Class Megatron was released exclusively at Best Buy on October 16th, 2007 alongside the North American launch of the ''Transformers'' movie DVD. Megatron has been completely redecoed, covering most of his previously grey parts with metallic silver paint and a black paint wash over the top of that. Black and gold highlights are used to offset all of the silver, while the transparent 'ice' parts are clear. These changes essentially make Megatron far more accurate to his movie appearance.

:Megatron is presented in robot mode inside a special display box similar in shape to the packaging for the Hasbro release of ''Generation 1'' ''Masterpiece'' [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]].
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*'''Battle Over Mission City Megatron (Two-Pack)''' ("Screen Battles" Voyager Class, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' Projectile
:A Target exclusive [[repaint]] of Voyager Class Megatron in primarily beige and chocolate brown colors with brown paintwashes, this version replaces the ice colored translucent plastic with two shades of translucent orange to replicate a look that resembles Megatron's firey demise (or atmospheric re-entry). Unlike the previous releases, this version's wings are painted to match the body color, so they give the appearance of molten slag. This version was only available in a two-pack with a mostly unchanged Deluxe Class [[Jazz (Movie)|Final Battle Jazz]] in reference to their fight on the skyscraper featured in the film. As the colors on this Megatron are very similar to the colors on the Screen Battles version of Voyager Class [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], it might be assumed that those two sets are meant to also represent the climactic final battle at the end of the film.
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====Leader Class toys====
[[Image:Movie Leader Megatron toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]
*'''Megatron''' (Leader Class, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-07'''
:Leader Class ''Movie'' Megatron transforms into a silver Cybertronic assault jet. He is quite accurate to the CGI design... except for the giant mass of legs attempting (but failing) to hide under the wings.

:In robot mode, Megatron's sculpt is quite accurate, or as accurate as a toy based on his CG design can be. However, his paint decoration is quite inaccurate, with blue highlights on various parts of his body, possibly to allude to his pre-frozen state and to give a relatively monochromatic figure more color. More confusing is his jet black face, which obscures the sculpt's details and is inaccurate to the movie appearance's gunmetal.

:Megatron's right fist disconnects at the wrist to become the spiked end of the extendable "chain whip" weapon concealed within his forearm; pressing the black switch on the arm pulls the chain taut for a whipping attack. His arms also link together at the wrists to form a "[[fusion cannon]]," with the pod on his left forearm concealing the weapon's [[Automorph Technology|Automorph]]ing twin barrels, exposed by pulling a switch. His other automorph features include his wings folding up as his vehicle nosecone is moved into place, and his feet unfolding as his knees are straightened. Finally, pressing the button on his waist activates a small friction motor, which moves various torso plates and blades on his back into place, accompanied by a metallic shrieking sound and flashing yellow lights.

:Megatron's instructions summarily fail to actually tell the reader about how his gimmicks work. The whipping-action black switch for his flail is not mentioned; they do not detail how to connect the arms for fusion cannon mode; and the fact that the cannon is on a slider, allowing it to be centre-aligned, rather than sitting off to one side, is also omitted.

:There is an error in Megatron's legs, in that his left and right hip joints have been swapped for reasons unknown. Switching them allows for a slightly smoother transformation. In addition to ''that'', both of Megatron's hands have a finger misassembly. Two pieces are molded to have two fingers, while one is obviously supposed to be a thumb–however, this thumb is on the 'outside' of his hands instead of the inside. The prototype on the packaging's stock photos show the correct assembly.

:''Geez'', [[Hasbro]].

:Possibly a dropped feature [[for safety reasons]], the right fist (partly a projectile tethered to the arm) is designed to launch out of his wrist via a spring-loaded firing mechanism. However, the spring for the launching mechanism was removed, though the firing trigger remains. One can either find a compatible spring or steal the spring in his left arm fusion cannon, then place it in his right forearm, though this disables his fusion cannon-retracting Automorph.
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[[Image:Premium Movie Megs.JPG|right|300px|thumb|"Hey, I got a tan!"]]
*'''Megatron''' ("Premium Series" Leader Class, 2008)
:Premium Megatron is a redeco of the previously released Leader class Megatron. The figure is now given far more movie-accurate paint applications of black, gold, & silver. Premium Megatron also features the classic transformation sound when the chest Automorph function is activated. The original "metal shriek" sound is retained when the sound button is pressed in vehicle mode.

:In the promotional photos of the toy, this version was pictured with a new vehicle mode face cover that fit the new head better. However, this retool was apparently dropped before actual production but can still be seen on the box back photography. All manufacturing errors from the first release are still present.

:Unlike some of the early "Premium Series" toys, Premium Leader Megatron was mass-released at a variety of retailers, instead of being an exclusive to any particular store.
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====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:Movie FAB Megatron.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Just back from filming Predator 3]]
*'''Fusion Blast Megatron''' (Fast Action Battler, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:''
**''Accessories:'' 2 projectiles
:Fusion Blast Megatron is a simple version of Megatron with dorky-looking proportions in robot mode, and it turns into an even dorkier-looking vehicle mode. The transformation sequence manages to be even more simple and non-involved than the other ''Movie'' Megatron toys by means of an Automorph feature very similar to the early Beast Wars flipchangers. Moving his back section down causes the torso to flip up, hiding the head and positioning the arms skywards. Though the figure requires a little more repositioning and folding, most of the transformation is done with a single step.
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[[Image:NA megatron FAB.JPG|right|200px|thumb|Racism accepted...]]
*'''Night Attack Megatron''' (Fast Action Battler, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' 2 projectiles
:A redeco of Fast Action Battler Megatron, this time cast primarily in black plastic, with opaque grey missiles.
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====Robot Replicas====
[[Image:Mov2007-toy RobotReplicas Megatron.JPG|right|150px|thumb|This is heavy man!]]
*'''Megatron''' (Robot Replica, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Fusion Cannon
:As part of the [[Robot Replicas]] sub-line, this version of Megatron is a non-transforming action figure that hews very close to the movie's CGI model. It features joints similar to the [[Revoltech]] toys, though the elbows only turn from side-to-side, giving him extremely limited arm articulation. His forearms can be replaced with his fusion cannon accessory (or any other arm attachments from other Robot Replicas, which could lead to some fun Frankensteins).
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====Titanium series====
[[Image:Movie TitaniumRM Megatron.jpg|right|130px|thumb|]]
*'''Megatron''' (3" Robot Masters, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Movie-style Decepticon sigil display stand
:''Titanum'' Megatron is a die-cast metal and plastic figurine, with an accurate sculpt based on the CG model owing to the fact he doesn't need to transform. Being a figurine, he only has articulation in his shoulders, neck and waist. Megatron comes with a Movie-style Decepticon symbol display stand.
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====Attacktix====
*'''Battle Masters Megatron and Scorponok''' (Battle Master set)
[[Image:Attacktix-MovMegsScorp.jpg|right|150px|thumb|HADOOOUKEN!]]
:One of the many casualties of the shelving of Hasbro's ''[[Attacktix]]'' line was this Battle Master set featuring Megatron and Scorponok.

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===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Legends Class Toys====
[[Image:Megatron ROTF Legends toy.jpg|After enduring countless "What do I turn into" captions, Michael Bay started from scratch.|right|thumb|250px]]
*'''Megatron''' (2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''EZ-02'''

:Megatron transforms from a reasonably accurate version of his movie robot mode to a reasonably accurate version of his tank mode (with a teeny extra Megatron face in his groin). He has ball-jointed shoulders and hips in robot mode, plus elbow and knee joints. His alt-mode turret is formed by merging his left and right arms, which is a neat callback to the first movie's fusion cannon, but means the turret can't rotate side to side, only pivot at the barrel.

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====Voyager Class Toys====
[[Image:ROTF_Voyager_Megatron_toy.jpg|thumb|250px|First blue, then green. Watch, in the next movie, it'll be red.]]
*'''Megatron''' (2009)
**''Japanese ID number:''
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:The second mainline ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' Megatron toy is more accurate in terms of sculpt than the larger Leader class Megatron, as it was based (more or less) on the finalized Megatron design, and as such, features a sleeker tank mode, a large lobster-claw like right arm and a normal-sized left arm. It is unknown why he is cast in green plastic in the stock photos, as fortunantly he was cast in a (veeerry greenish) gunmetal color for mass release.
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====Leader Class Toys====
[[Image:ROTF_Leader_Megatron.jpg|thumb|250px|Beefcake!]]
*'''Megatron''' (2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RD-01'''
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:The first and largest ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Megatron toy is actually one of the more inaccurate. While Megatron's body is generally true to the final CG design, his arms are actually from early concept designs where Megatron had a right arm that deployed a sword and also had a very thin, gimpy-looking left arm, as opposed to the final Megatron CG's crab pincer/fusion cannon right arm and normal-sized left arm. He also has [[kibble]] on his shoulders that makes him look hunch-backed; however, this can be removed easily using a screwdriver, but by doing so the "mask" that partially covers his face in tank mode is lost.

:Megatron transforms into a cybertronic tank, though it is not as sleek and aerodynamic as the design it was based upon. In robot mode, Megatron's entire lower right arm is a spring-loaded missile launcher and the tank turret's armour/shroud can be positioned over to partially cover the cannon, with flip-out sword blade, as seen in the early concept design.

:Pressing the Decepticon symbol-emblazoned button on his chest activates his light, [[Mech Alive]] and voice sound effects, which yells "I am Megatron!" The European release (being sold in various non-English speaking countries as well as Quebec) proclaims just simply "Megatron!" with laughter.
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====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:ROTF_FAB_Megatron_toy.jpg|thumb|250px|I sure hope [[Wikipedia:Metal_Slug_(series)|SNK]] don't sue...]]
*'''Cannon Blast Megatron''' (2009)
**''Accessories'' Projectile

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====Power Bots====
[[Image:ROTF_PowerBots_Megatron.jpg|thumb|150px|Super Fighting Robot- MEGAMAN!]]
*'''Megatron''' (2009)

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====Robot Replicas====
*'''Megatron''' (2009)

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==Merchandise==
===Transformers (2007)===
[[Image:GummyCandyFront.jpg|right|100px|thumb|"Oh, How hideously (and deliciously) ironic!"]]
*'''Transformers Gummy Candy''' (2006)
:Made by the [[Frankford Candy & Chocolate Company]] at the behest of [[Hasbro|Hasbro's]] Cap Candy Company unit, this large Megatron-shaped [[Transformers Gummy Candy|gummy candy]] was available throughout 2006 to 2007. Also available was an [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]-shaped gummy candies.
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===Battling Robots Bubble Bath===
*'''Megatron''' (2007)
[[Image:Megatron bubblebath.jpg|right|120px|thumb|"This is why I hate merchandising."]]
:Megatron's torso attaches to the bottle of bubble bath. His elbows bend, and his arms have a punching gimmick, to allow him to battle the forces of good. Pushing a lever on either side makes the respective fist punch forward. He's removable, though not as easily held without the bottle below his waist. Like many pieces of Megatron merchandise, this "figure" uses the older head design with blue eyes. The blue eyes are also the only spot of paint on him, unlike the elaborately decoed Prime.
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*'''Megatron''' Burger King free toy (2007)
:A non-transformable version of Megatron, cast primarily in gray plastic. The toy's entire "gimmick" is that both arms rotate at the shoulder. Due to the strict [[For safety reasons|protocols]] of making a fast food premium, Megatron's sharp and deadly design was forced to be smoothed out. This had the unfortunate effect of making his sculpted details meld together and looking less like a killer robot and more like a melted clay man. The toy ''appears'' to use the earlier head render of Megatron's, but due to the vague detail and paint job, may also not be.

:The toy also comes with a purple plastic Decepticon base and a lenticular motion card with a surprising amount of frames of animation. These two pieces may in fact be the better part of the package.

====Basic Fun====
*'''Megatron''' (Figural keychain assortment, 2007)
: Produced by [[Basic Fun]], this keychain is a likeness of Megatron's robot mode with articulated arms, legs, head, waist, and a keyring sticking out of his ass.
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====Transformers Movie Danglers====
[[Image:Movie Megatron dangler.jpg|right|200px|thumb|No, that's not his back, that's his actual face.]]
*'''Megatron''' (2007)
:Released by [[Tomy Yujin]] in November 2007<ref name="TomyYujin">[http://www.gachausa.com/products/transformers.asp Tomy Yujin ''Transformers'' page]</ref> for the [[Danglers Collection]], this toy is a weird plastic [[super deformed]] version of Megatron that pops out his vehicle mode when you squeeze him. This little figurine has a little strap on it so that it can be put on cell phones or portable gaming devices.

:Other than Megatron, there are also versions of [[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Devastator]], Bumblebee, Ironhide, Bonecrusher, Jazz, and Optimus Prime.
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====Unleashed====
[[Image:Movie2007_Unleashed_Megatron.jpg|right|200px|thumb|]]
*'''Megatron''' (2008)

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====Transformers Movie Screen Cleaners====
[[Image:Movie Megatron screencleaner.jpg|right|104px|thumb|]]
*'''Megatron''' (2008)
:Released by Tomy Yujin on January 2008<ref name="TomyYujin" />, this dangler is a faction logo-shaped screen cleaner for your cell phone, with a stock image of Megatron printed on the other side.
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===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Transformers Digital Watch====
[[Image:ROTF_Megatrondigitalwatch.jpg|thumb|200px|]]
*'''Megatron Digital Watch''' (2009)

:Made by [[Fab Starpoint]], this Megatron-themed digital watch has a nylon velcro strap with a rubber pull tab, a plastic case and chrome bezel, and an LCD display on the face.
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====Transformers Wacky Wobblers====
*'''Megatron''' (2009)

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====Basic Fun====
*'''Articulated keychain''' (2009)

: Produced by [[Basic Fun]], this keychain is a likeness of Megatron's robot mode with articulated arms, legs, head, waist, and a keyring sticking out of his ass.
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===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Robot Heroes Ratchet vs Megatron.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Adorable head crushing!]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet vs Megatron''' (2007)
:The first Robot Heroes toy of Megatron was available packed with Autobot Ratchet. Like many Robot Heroes, he is grinning from ear to ear, and in a squatty pose. Notably, his hands are simplified into three fingered claws, and his head is a cute version of the original (and replaced) design. His articulation is the standard shoulders and neck. The toy is colored much like the Leader class version of the character.
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*'''The Final Battle''' (2008)
[[Image:Robotheroesfinalbattle.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Shiny!]]
:Sold exclusively in Walmart stores, this release of Megatron is a repaint of the first Robot Heroes toy. Sold with redecoed Autobot Jazz, Blackout, Optimus Prime, and Ratchet, no molding was changed on this toy. However, the figure boasts a metallic finish, making the toy a vibrant silver with painted bronze highlights for greater film accuracy.
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*'''Battle Jazz vs Megatron''' (2008)
[[Image:Robotheroesjazzmegatron.jpg|right|150px|thumb|PRIIIIIIME!]]
:The second mold, sharing no parts with the first release. His right arm has transformed into the mace, and he's posed just after slamming it into the ground (with impact "explosion" molded in). The head is the "final" head design, but the toy has many outbursts of blue, either to make a more exciting deco or evoke him being "recently thawed". Sadly, he is only articulated at the neck and LEFT shoulder, denying the world adorable mace bonking.
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*'''Autobot Skids and Megatron''' (2009)
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[[Image:Robotheroesmegatronfallenprimejetfireironhide.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Say hello to my GIGANTIC-ASS friend!]]
*'''Battle for the Fallen''' (box set, 2009)
:This ''Robot Heroes'' box set of figures comes with [[The Fallen]], Megatron (tank mode), [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] combined, and Ironhide (truck mode). Megatron proooobably has no articulation.

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[[Image:RobotHeroes_BattlefortheAllspark.jpg|300px|thumb|right|]]
*'''Battle for the Allspark''' (2009)
:A redeco of the second ''Robot Heroes'' mold is included in this set representing the battle of [[Mission City]] along with a redeco of Decepticon Brawl, along with new figures of Ratchet (with his saw), [[Sam Witwicky]] with the All Spark Cube, Optimus Prime, Starscream and Bumblebee in vehicle mode.

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==Trivia==
[[Image:Movie Megatron olduglyface.jpg|right|200px|thumb|I'm blind!]]
* When the 2007 Bristol Comic Expo's Transformers panel got onto how fiddly the Movie designs were, Megatron was singled out as a prime example; one of the ''panel'' referred to him as "a walking chandelier". <ref>[http://panelborders.wordpress.com/2007/07/30/podcast-transformers-and-now/ Panel Borders (click "Download This Episode Now" link as others go to the wrong podcast)]</ref>
* The prototype photographs on the back of Leader and Voyager class Megatrons' packaging show him with a completely different head based upon an earlier version of CGI design (seen on the right) that was dropped after much negative fan reaction.
* According to The Movie Guide, Megatron is one of the few Transformers capable of space travel without reverting to a Protoform. This explains how he was capable of chasing the All Spark ''immediately'' after its launch.
* According to [[The Quest For the Allspark]] paperback's opening paragraph, "...Most revered were Optimus and Megatron. They were twin brothers of the Prime dynasty." This implies that Megatron may have also had the surname "Prime" at one time.
* Early script drafts and a [[Optimus Prime Versus Megatron|children's picture book]] featured Megatron consuming the [[spark]]s of his fallen foes, but this didn't make it into the final film due to time constraints. The novelisation of the movie, on the other hand, sees him chow down on Jazz in the final battle; similarly, although not outright stated in dialogue, his animalistic pouncing on the fallen bodies of various characters (including Optimus Prime, Starscream, Jazz and the [[Create-A-Bot (Decepticon)|Decepticon Create-A-Bot]]) in the Movie Nintendo DS games, following by what appears to be rooting around in their innards, seems to suggest he's doing the same there.
* Similarly, in the ''Autobots'' version of the same DS game, it is noted that Megatron "took the spark" of his and Optimus' father. Presumably, this is a reference to both his cannibalistic practises as well as the fact that both he and Prime are in fact brothers, at least in the Cybertronian sense.
* Despite his undeniable hatred of humans, Megatron is the only Decepticon in the movie who doesn't speak [[Cybertronian languages|Cybertronian]] for the majority of his dialogue. In fact, he speaks ''fluent'' English upon reviving, despite the fact that [[wikipedia:Modern English|Modern English]] came into existence around the Sixteenth century, when he was presumably still frozen in the ice. This could suggest that he still was somehow conscious when he was studied by Sector Seven (which he also overtly states upon awakening in the IDW comic adaptation). This would explain why his first action after thawing was declaring his name - imagine being frozen for generations being referred to as "N.B.E. 1", or even worse: "Mega-man" ''and'' "Ice-man".
* The Megatron computer generated model consisted of 2411 individual pieces, 433,949 polygons, 8924 rig nodes, and 1437 texture maps. The pieces combined gave a volume of 10,325 cubic feet.<ref>Robertson, Barbara (2007). Heavy Metal. ''Computer Graphics, 30''(7), 12-17.</ref>
* [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] from ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]'' has apparently stolen this Megatron's head, at least for the [[Transform and Roll Out|first episode]].
* There are some problems with Simmons' statement about various technologies being reverse-engineered from Megatron. Cars came about in one shape or form at about the turn of the century, and spaceflight technology was pioneered by German and Soviet scientists. Of course, Simmons isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, so he could be exaggerating. They'll always have ''[[Ghost 1]]'' though.
*It was decided that Megatron would not be renamed Galvatron in [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]] for the sake of the general audience.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-229.html#post3421064 Roberto Orci answers fan questions on the TFW2005 boards.]
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*While the [[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe|Revenge Of The Fallen Movie Universe]] creates the idea that Megatron is a triple changer that alternates between his robot, jet, and tank modes, there is absolutely nothing to support this in the movie. Throughout the entire film, he only transforms into a winged tank portrayed by the Voyager figure and is more than capable of flying in said mode.
*Megatron may have been a decendent of a Prime, because only a Prime can kill a Prime, and Megatron killed Optimus. This however would not make sense, because Sam killed Megatron. Unless Sam is a Prime, and... excuse me, I've gone cross-eyed.

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==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/2007/Decepticon/Megatron/megatron.htm Megatron at TFU.info]

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Bat-RobÃ´

2009-07-13T12:35:01Z

137.195.68.169:

:''The Bat-Robôs are a faction or a subgroup from the Generation 1 continuity family.''

The mysterious '''Bat-Robôs''' have the capability to hit walls and become invincible robots. In that order.

The Bat-Robôs include:

*[[Pick-Up (Bat-Robô)|Pick-Up]]
*[[Turbo]]

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Starscream (Movie)

2009-07-07T11:17:27Z

137.195.68.169: /* Voyager Class toys */

{{disambig3|Starscream}}
{{factions|decepticon}}

:''Starscream is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[live-action film series]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Movie Starscream promorender2.jpg|right|350px|thumb|I got yer All Spark, right here.]]
'''Starscream''' is a hero on the wrong side. Over the centuries he's come to believe both [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]] and [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] have lost sight of what is best for the Cybertronian race, and simply pursue their own agendas. At some point, he came to the decision that, for the good of the species, a new leader must emerge, and he would be that leader. However, over time, he became as corrupt in his own way as Megatron, although he prefers subtlety and deception to Megatron's brute force. Now, what may once have been noble goals are buried under layers of self interest, transforming Starscream into that which he supposedly despised.

{{quote|Truly the universe favors those who persist.|Starscream on himself, [[Ghosts of Yesterday]]}}
{{quote|In your absence, someone had to take command.|Starscream thinks the boss' death means instant promotion|[[Revenge of the Fallen]]}}

:''Hungarian name ([[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|Titan Magazine]] only):'' '''Csillagsikoly''' ("Starcream")
:''Chinese name (Taiwan):'' '''Tīen-wáng Hsīng''' (天王星, "Planet Uranus")
:''Hungarian name'': '''Üstökös''' ("Comet")

==Fiction==
===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
[[Image:Defiance1_Starscream_Ratchet.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Someone is praising Starscream!? Stop the presses!]]

Many years before civil war broke out on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], commander Starscream was a member of the Cybertron defense forces. He was patrolling the [[Eshems Nebula]] when he encountered the fourth alien scout ship he had spotted in the same [[Units of time|cycle]]. As he related this to first officer [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] of the science division, this time the alien ship did not maintain a safe distance, forcing Starscream to attack, and he was damaged in the subsequent battle (and was late for a meeting with [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]] and Protector [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]). Soon afterwards, these same aliens attacked Cybertron, and Starscream commanded the aerial forces in the defense of the [[Simfur]] temple near the city of [[Metrotitan (Movie)|Metrotitan]]. After Megatron was injured in battle, Starscream rushed to his side to enquire about his condition and to ask for further orders. He was informed to keep Optimus's team out of the military's way. {{storylink|Defiance issue 1}}

Megatron was influenced by [[The Fallen|the mysterious relic]] found outside [[Simfur]] to wage a vengeful war against the aliens. Starscream attended at war rally at [[Trypticon (Movie)|Trypticon]] where Megatron assumed dictatorship of Cybertron and its armed forces. After destroying much of the enemy fleet and eliminating its leader, Megatron ordered Starscream and his fellow fliers to destroy the alien flagship and conquer the surrounding systems. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 2}} Underground opposition to the new regime came in the form of Optimus and his science division, something Lord Megatron would not stand for. While [[Prowl (Movie)|Prowl]] and security officers arrested Optimus on trumped-up charges of treason, Starscream's squadron was given orders to capture Optimus alive and leave no living witnesses. Unfortunately, Optimus ''Prime'' proved more than a match for Starscream's entire unit, bringing down the ruins of a city upon them. The group survived, and were used by Megatron as "proof" that there were enemies within Cybertron as well as without, to rally his army into a new faction: the Decepticons. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 4}}

During the subsequent civil war, Starscream blindly followed Megatron's orders, murdering those who did not bow to his Lord's will, even those who did not choose sides. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 4}} Some time later, Starscream was leading an assault on the Autobots at [[Tyger Pax]] when Blackout arrived to reinforce them. They witnessed the launch of the [[All Spark]] into space, a desperate gambit by the Autobots, and immediately Starscream and Blackout began to bicker over their next move. Seeing Megatron leave the planet in pursuit of the All Spark, Starscream decided that so would they. {{storylink|Planetfall}}

[[Image:Planetfall Starscream yesweare.jpg|200px|thumb|"Hey, what's that?" "I'd call it a TARGET!"]]

Starscream was concerned over the Autobots who still posed a threat, but Megatron ordered him to gather a crew to pursue [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime's]] [[Ark (Movie)|ship]]. Unfortunately, [[Nemesis (Movie)|Starscream's ship]] was led into a trap and crippled by [[concussion pulse]] weapons, throwing them off the chase, for now. Humiliated, Starscream and his crew limped back home for repairs. Sometime later, they followed the All Spark's trace energy pulse and the wake of Prime's ship to a solar system galaxies away. Landing on the [[Mars|fourth planet]], they destroyed [[Beagle 2 Rover|a primitive lifeform]] that seemed to have been created from the All Spark, and felt the tag of the life-giving object on the third planet. {{storylink|The Reign of Starscream Issue Number One|The Reign of Starscream issue 1}}

Starscream's team made planetfall on [[Earth]] in Afghanistan, quickly attracting the attention of a nearby US military base, which sent out an armoured personnel carrier to investigate. After it was destroyed, the Decepticons attacked the base itself. During the rather one-sided assault, a human agent of Sector Seven was impressed by the alien invaders' ability to adapt to Earth's finest weaponry. Starscream agreed that they were impressive, and killed the fleshling. After Blackout left the group for another nearby base, Starscream told his fellow Decepticons that their mission wouldn't always be this easy, as the Autobots were bound to turn up. {{storylink|Planetfall}}

{{note|The events of Planetfall are inconsistent with the events of IDW's own Prime Directive prequel comic. However, the depiction of the Decepticon arrival in Afghanistan was later used in [[The Reign of Starscream]].}}

In 2003, Starscream's infiltration team, consisting of [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and Blackout, touched down on [[Mars]] and destroyed the [[Beagle 2 Rover]]. Starscream was disgusted with the rover, but Blackout and Barricade warned that there was an obviously intelligent species nearby, so they would need to be cautious. Starscream agreed, as long as they got to kill something. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 3|Prime Directive (IDW) issue 3}}

[[Image:MoviePrequel4 Starscream youcangonow.jpg|left|300px|thumb|Top this one, Samus.]]

Splitting up, they headed to Earth, where Starscream scanned an F-22 Raptor fighter jet being tested by the [[United States Air Force|US Air Force]] at [[Nellis Air Force base]]. He destroyed it, then adopted the vehicle form for himself. Leaving the scene of destruction, he radioed his fellow Decepticons to report in on their hunt for new disguise forms, which they did. He reiterated that their mission was to find the All Spark, to which Blackout responded with a reminder that the mission was also to find Megatron. Starscream dismissively replied, "Yeah, right... him too."

Later, Starscream and Blackout detected the unique radiation of the All Spark and investigated, but Starscream soon realized it was a trap by Sector Seven. Starscream destroyed several AH-64 Apache helicopters while Blackout attacked Sector Seven's bunker and attempted to hack into their mainframe. When the humans severed the connection, the Decepticons broke off from the battle and linked up with Barricade, who was in pursuit of the Autobot [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 4|Prime Directive (IDW) issue 4}}
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===''Transformers: Beginnings''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Patrick Hallahan]]

Starscream led the Decepticons to Earth while following the beacon signal used by Bumblebee to call the Autobots. In typical Starscream fashion, he seemed more concerned about collecting the All Spark to further his own goals than to rescue [[Megatron (Movie)|Lord High Protector Megatron]]. Attracting the attention of a nearby military installation, they were attacked, but easily overpowered the humans, after which he and Blackout took their [[alternate mode]]s from vehicles on base. Starscream, along with Blackout, followed Bumblebee as he fled from a losing battle against Barricade.

Later, when Sector Seven tried to use a false energy signature to attract Bumblebee to their location, the Decepticons picked up on it and followed. Realizing the signal was fake, Starscream pulled the troops out and waited for the Autobots to arrive and flush out the All Spark for them. {{storylink|Transformers: Beginnings}}

{{note|Transformers: Beginnings is a condensed, flash-animated retelling of the [[IDW Publishing|IDW]] [[Movie Prequel (2007)|Prime Directive]] Movie Prequel that is detailed above this section.}}

====''Ghosts of Yesterday'' prequel novel====
Starscream had ascended to Decepticon leadership in the absence of their former lord, and though he had to ''seem'' to carry on the long search for the lost Megatron and the [[All Spark]] to keep his position as leader, his greatest hope was that Megatron would NEVER be found. Some loyal Decepticons, especially [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]], strongly suspected this and sought to frustrate Starscream's species-serving plans. [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] buddied up with him, but he did like to trick people. [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]] hated him, but one shouldn't really read too much into that. [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] and [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]]'s opinions are unknown, but Frenzy's a complete lunatic and nobody cared what the pet thought.

During a search of an abandoned solar system, the ''[[Nemesis (Movie)|Nemesis]]'' came across ''[[Ghost 1|a vessel]]'' that bore a resemblance to Megatron's [[alternate mode]]. Starscream went to investigate it, intending to destroy it. After chasing off [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], he communicated with the creatures aboard the vessel, who called themselves [[human]]s. Starscream claimed that his people once lived with the [[Autobot]]s, and that their treacherous leader, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], started a war for the All Spark. The humans told him of a robotic creature that they had found on their world, and Starscream, recognizing it as Megatron, told them it was an Autobot scout. While communicating with them, he downloaded all the information on their computers, learning that the All Spark was also located on Earth. He offered to help the humans to return to their world if they helped Starscream's group attack the Autobots, hoping that Prime would destroy them and be guilt-stricken in the process. The humans attacked Optimus and Bumblebee, but the two Autobots escaped. After their ship sank into a cavern, Starscream revealed his true nature and abandoned them. As a result, the humans concluded neither faction could be fully trusted. Way to make first contact there, Screamer.

Returning to the battle, he lied to his fellow Decepticons, claiming that the two Autobots were dead and that he'd been unable to communicate with the humans. Blackout, unconvinced by the story, challenged Starscream to single combat. Starscream won, and the Decepticons launched an attack on the ''[[Ark (Movie)|Ark]]''. Unfortunately for Starscream, Optimus, Bumblebee and the human vessel showed up. Starscream, fearful of the information that the ship contained, ordered the Decepticons to destroy it. Unfortunately, Starscream experienced a minor mutiny when Bonecrusher and Blackout demanded answers, and even Barricade wanted to know why. As the battle drew to a close, Starscream was in a position to terminate Prime but came under fire from the humans' weapons. Seriously damaged, Starscream finished them off with a single plasma blast, then ordered the Decepticons to retreat, despite the advantage they had over the Autobots. The Autobots figured that Starscream would not risk traveling to [[Earth]] for fear of losing power, but Prime figured that it was only a matter of time before the desire for vengeance and the lure of the All Spark brought the Decepticons to that world. {{storylink|Ghosts of Yesterday}}

====Sector Seven Alternate Reality Game====
[[Image:Starscream 1982.jpg|200px|thumb|Masterpiece attack!]]
Disguised as an F-15 Eagle fighter jet, Starscream was active on Earth in early 1982, with documented sightings of jets sporting his unique colors on several continents before he was caught on camera transforming to robot mode in California. This sighting (and its subsequent leak) was the direct impetus for [[Hungry Dragon|Hungry Dragon 1]].

{{note|In the [[Hungry Dragon 2]] misinformation campaign, Starscream wouldn't arrive until 2003. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 4|Prime Directive #4}}, though [[Transformers Comic issue 9|in a letter's column for Titan's Transformers comic]], Starscream refers to spending some time as an F-15.}}

Later, during late April/early May of 2007, [[Sector Seven]] intercepted two sound clips through Agent Cod3x and another source (currently unknown). Apparently, Starscream wanted to make his presence known and left a message announcing that he would have the All Spark, and that Agent Powers would be the one to hand it over. These messages were somewhat garbled, as they were apparently received over a SETI@home system. So far, only these two "blips" have been analyzed (the second still needing work), but more may come in the near future. {{storylink|Sector Seven (game)}}
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===''Transformers'' (2007 film)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Charlie Adler]] (English), [[Tadashi Miyazawa]] (Japan), [[José Sant'anna]] (Brazil), [[Axel Lutter]] (German)

[[Image:Movie2007_Starscream_HooverDam.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Starscream lacking the null-ray could destroy the universe as we know it. But we have others, so it's okay.]]

Starscream was lying in wait at a [[United States military|US]] air base when covert agent [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] reported that the [[All Spark]] had been located, along with Megatron, underneath [[Hoover Dam]]. Though he had long feared this day would come, Starscream ordered the rest of the Decepticons to mobilize. The others responded, with Blackout rallying in the name of Megatron.

[[Image:Starscreammovieheadshot.jpg|right|250px|thumb|It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a... bird-legged freak that transforms into a plane...]]

The first to arrive, Starscream attacked the hydroelectric power plant attached to the dam to cause havoc to [[Sector Seven|Sector Seven's]] operations and to speed the thawing of Megatron. With Frenzy's sabotage, Megatron quickly broke free of his icy restraints and escaped the facility. He almost immediately met with the waiting Starscream, who repledged his loyalty to Megatron. Demanding to know what had happened to the All Spark, Megatron was told by his [[second-in-command]] that it was now in the possession of the humans. Furious, Megatron berated his lieutenant for yet another failure. What a warm reunion.

During the assault on a [[Mission City|nearby city]], Starscream fooled [[William Lennox|Captain Lennox's]] unit by posing as an [[wikipedia:F-22 Raptor|F-22 Raptor]] providing cover. Starscream launched an attack that crippled [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] as [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] realized too late who the fighter really was. As [[Sam Witwicky|ladiesman217]] ran with the All Spark, Starscream swooped down, blocking his path, only to be attacked by both Ironhide and [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]]. After fighting without much effort, but still besting them, Starscream took to the skies again, instead of securing the All Spark from the now-defenseless ladiesman217.

[[Image:Starscreammoviestillrobot.jpg|left|250px|thumb|How do you feel, mighty traffic? Yah!]]

While Megatron attempted to retrieve the All Spark from ladiesman217, Starscream perched on nearby buildings and shot down an Army Blackhawk helicopter when it attempted to help the human evacuate the Cube. Eventually, real F-22 Raptors from the US Air Force arrived, and Starscream disguised himself. Pretending to be a part of their squadron, Starscream surprised the human pilots by transforming in mid-air and, performing the best display of [[jet judo]] in 20 years, destroyed three of the Raptors before he was fired upon. He transformed back into his disguise and fled, and was not seen in the closing moments of the battle between Optimus Prime and Megatron. (Or was he?)

[[Image:Starscream bails.JPG|right|200px|thumb|I will rule the sequel, Megatron!]]

Most of the Decepticons were defeated, and their bodies cast into the deepest part of the ocean. Ultimately, Starscream retreated from Earth to parts—and with intentions—unknown. {{storylink|Transformers (2007)}}
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===Toy bios===
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Fleeing from the Mission City fiasco, Starscream repaired and reenergised himself from a nearby power plant, then fled into deep space to find Decepticon reinforcements. {{storylink|#Voyager Class toys|Deep Space Starscream}}

He eventually decided this was too time-consuming, and went back to Earth in a new stealthy form to wait for the Decepticons, alerted by the energy signature of the All Spark's destruction, to come to ''him''. He succeeded in building a small army, and had them distract the Autobot forces while he launched a surprise attack on a lone Optimus. {{storylink|#Legends Class toys|Nightwatch Optimus Prime vs. Stealth Starscream}} The battle ended with Optimus still alive and the Decepticons beaten on Earth. {{storylink|Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Fast Action Battlers|Fire Blast Optimus Prime}}

===Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comics===

{{bigquote|You could mark [your letters] 'All Hail Starscream' so long as you make it clear this is in no way a reflection on our glorious leader or a prelude to some sort of coup. Just so that we're clear on that.|Star Screams}}

{{Note|The following event is unique to the Titan Magazines comic continuity and thus doesn't occur anywhere else.}}

Within seconds of Megatron's defeat, Starscream dubbed himself the new Decepticon leader, with the main problem being that he didn't actually have any troops to lead. To amend this slight impediment, he attacked several [[Allspark Mutation]]s and removed the energy from their bodies, which he then proceeded to implant into the corpses of [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]], [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and [[Brawl (Movie)|Devastator]]. With his former comrades reanimated in this [[Zombie|rudimentary manner]], he directed the shambling husks to attack the Autobots, who were still recovering from their battle that had just finished. While the Autobots eventually destroyed the zombies, Starscream had escaped with several All Spark energy fragments still in his possession. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 7|Starscream's Militia}}

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[[Image:Tf mag 10 2008.JPG|left|150px|thumb|So evil, boats spontaneously explode rather than face him.]]
Starscream remained on Earth serving under Megatron—and taking orders from [[Dropkick]], who's got a higher rank. In secret, however, he was using [[Insecticon (Movie)|Insecticons]] to implant cerebro-strips in the heads of useful humans; at will, he could control their minds, paving the way for a more subtle conquest when he finally got Megatron out of the way. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 14|Aftermath Part 1}}

He became aware of the moon-based Autobots and while ordered to join [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] in beating up [[NATO]], {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 1}} he got bored during the mission and left as soon as he could to attack the moon-based Autobots. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 10|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 2}} He beat them up and viciously taunted them, forcing them to take the initiative and go to Earth—just as he wanted. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 11|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 3}} As he hoped, the Autobots eventually won, killing Megatron, destroying the All Spark and halting the cyberforming of Earth... leaving him free to take command of the Decepticons!

On top of that, he got his hands on the nanovirus the Autobots used on Megatron. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 13|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 5}} He also took the All Spark interface module from Megatron's corpse and assimilated it. He started hearing Megatron's voice in his head some time after this... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 22|The Decepticon Who Haunted Himself}}

[[Image:InsecticonMovie.JPG|right|250px|thumb|Hey, Starscream's ''bugging'' us lolololololol]]

One of his first acts as leader was to begin a bombing campaign against any human attempt to rebuild infrastructure or regain a foothold in the United States. He then organised an attack that would get all the Autobots together so a NATO tank regiment (its commander under cerebro-strip control) could wipe them all out. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 14|Aftermath Part 1}} While this failed, Starscream has still ensured the new [[President of the United States]] is under cerebro control—and the Autobots have no idea he's in command... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 15|Aftermath Part 2}}

As well as secretly overseeing scorched-earth strategies and attempted Energon grabs {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 16|Dark Spark}}, he also gained [[Mikaela Banes]] as a cerebro-controlled slave. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 18|Return to Cybertron: Part 2}} When the bulk of the Autobots prepared to briefly leave Earth and had Mikaela watch over their [[Savannah]] base, Starscream just waited until they'd gone and effortlessly seized the place. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 19|Return to Cybertron: Part 3}} As a result, the six hundred square miles around the Autobot base were swiftly seized as an autonomous Decepticon nation, with all resistance smashed easily. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 20|Return to Cybertron: Part 4}} This means, shockingly, he actually ''is'' a better leader than Megatron. ''[[Jesus]]''.

[[Image:Starscream Titan22.JPG|left|210px|thumb|"Stop looking at me ''stop looking at me!''"]]
He sadistically taunted Mikaela, hoping there was part of her that was screaming for help, before dispatching [[Jazz (Movie)|the corrupted Jazz]] and [[Kullt]] to assassinate Optimus. It didn't work. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 21|Hard Target}}

While preparing an ambush for the Autobots who he knew would come for Mikaela, he ranted to the Megatron in his head how he'd been a ''far'' better leader and how he was about to kill all the Autobots. His ambush almost worked too, and he almost killed Prime himself—only for the Autobots to turn out to have had a better plan all along, and escape. Admitting to the voices that he had failed and demanding a strategy from then, he realised to his horror that Megatron's mind had wanted him to take the interface module and had downloaded his brain into it; the voice ''really was'' Megatron and he was demanding to be released! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 22|The Decepticon Who Haunted Himself}}

He didn't release him, though Megatron did feed Starscream a strategy—blackmailing America into booting the Autobots out, then having Allen nuke their ship. This plan was a success {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|Revolution Part 1}}, and a jubilant Starscream despatched his armies to seize the United States, all the while having his mind-controlled humans hamper ''any'' military counter-offensive. He was ''this'' close to total victory when [[Stockade (Movie)|''Stockade'']] turned up, turning a third of the drone armies and possibly two generals to his side, sparking a [[Decepticon Civil War]].

Watching everything collapse around him, a gibbering Starscream was visited by Megatron's voice again, telling him once again that the only way out was to release him and allow Megatron to live again... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 24|Revolution Part 2}}

[[Image:Starscreamseesthings_Titan25.jpg|right|350px|thumb|"I'm as sane as the [[Thunderwing (G1)|next]] leader!"]]

...and this time, desperate and pressured, Starscream ''did''. With his mind now his own again, he realised to his horror what he'd done... but it was too late, he was now a minion again, and tasked to strafe Stockade's forces while Megatron took on the rebel himself. It all was for naught, however: the Autobots (surprisingly ''not'' dead!) intervened and forcibly teleported all the Decepticons to Cybertron, leaving Starscream trapped there ''forever''. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 25|Revolution Part Three}}

====Star Screams====
{{Note|The following details Starscream's tenure as letter-answerer on the Star Screams letters page.}}

[[Image:Star Screams logo.JPG|left|150px|thumb|Hate mail!]]
As of issue 7, he runs the letters page (renamed Star Screams from the original Mech Mail). He hates the letters, the readers, the comic, the editorial team, and probably the baby [[Jesus]]—but he's still got nothing on ''[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream's]] [[Armada (Panini comic)|letter-answering stint]]. The source of his misanthropy appears to be that nobody ever sent in fan-art of him (#8). The few things he does like are recycling and environmental measures (#14), girls becoming Transformers fans (#19), and [[To sell toys|humans collecting his action figures]].

Autobot sympathisers are hunted down to be exterminated, especially those who dress up as Autobots (#8, #12 and #17), and even the Prime Minister isn't safe (#24). That said, Starscream appears to have a soft spot for his own fans—in #11, when a female reader complained her mum and aunt kept telling her she was too old for Transformers, he announced that the offending relatives had been shortlisted to spend forever polishing his armour with their own spit, bless.

In #8, he revealed he hates the movie because his best scenes and lines were cut out, and #13 confirmed the Decepticon army loathes [[Michael Bay]] for producing pro-Autobot propaganda. This still hasn't prevented him from shilling Bay's second documentary ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', as he believes it will depict a Decepticon victory (#10) and is going to ignore the script if it says otherwise (#18). Since then, however, he has come under the sway of an unknown higher power in regards to the film, one Starscream fears (#22)...

In #7, he expressed concern that this "[[Simon Furman|Fur-Man]]" was a [[Maximal]] agent, and warned that Titan Magazines would be destroyed if they continued to produce Autobot propaganda. By #13, the Decepticons appear to have taken over Titan and have imprisoned the staff and creators in cages, forcing them to work merely for food—it is surely no coincidence that during this period, Starscream became a successful leader of the Decepticons in the comic strip and that Starscream began wanting more issues brought out. This mistreatment is causing severe physical trauma to [[Steve White]] and [[Den Patrick]] (#19} though Fur-Man is still a free agent and is evading Decepticon capture (#21). Writer [[Robin Etherington]] appears to have angered him, as Starscream is believed to have deliberately miscredited one of his stories in #24. [http://www.studioblinktwice.com/announce.php?Year=2009]

He has incredible hate for [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]], gleefully recounting the guy's horrible death and going berserk in #9 at the idea of Jazz answering the letters.

While he has said he talks to himself to get intelligent conversation and doesn't trust anyone (#9), he has shown some signs of wanting company: he hoped the [[Seeker]] jets would all be reunited in the next film (#9), is trying to convince [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] to be in it too (#15), and wishes Ironhide would join the Decepticons (#16). Despite wanting to re-unite with Thundercracker, he shows contempt for the guy's lack of drive (#11). He views [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]] and Soundwave as potential successors if anything ever happens to him (#21). He also appreciates [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout's]] work (#23) and while he's annoyed the helicopter is more popular than him, he did go to the trouble of giving the guy a proper burial. (#25)

Starscream appears to have had several "off the record" adventures. He has revealed he once had an [[Starscream (G1)|F-15 mode]] and liked it (#9), openly confirming he was [[:Image:Starscream 1982.jpg|active in 1982]] and the impetus for the [[Hungry Dragon]] cover-up. He also refers to [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] also being an F-15 (#11), implying both were active in 1982. He has also had some experience with and knowledge of [[Unicron]] (#12), something [[Transformers Comic issue 19|no other Transformer had]] and something that terrified him (#17), and in which he apparently witnessed Unicron trying to devour Cybertron (#19)...

He maintains that his voice is not [[Chris Latta|scratchy]] in any way.

Eventually, however, the constant stress of the letters drove him to a nervous breakdown, and he was sent to a very special home (or "on a mission of great importance", according to his cover story). (Vol.2 #1)

===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
{{bigquote|My plan failed, or was it my troops that failed me? I can only process the situation and hope for a conclusion. There are allies on Earth, and more scattered across the Galaxy. I will seek them out. By my side they will join, and in time, I '''will''' have my kingdom... regardless of the location.|Starscream|[[The Reign of Starscream issue 5]]}}

Starscream assumed the role of [[Decepticon leader]] on Earth following Megatron's defeat and the destruction of the All Spark. Though tempted to exact revenge on the humans, he realized he might be the last functional Decepticon on the planet, so he escaped Mission City to recover the badly-damaged Barricade. Starscream gave him orders to continue his reconnaissance of the Autobot once he was able, and headed for Hoover Dam to retrieve Frenzy. {{storylink|The Reign of Starscream Issue Number One|The Reign of Starscream issue 1}}

Starscream made his way to Hoover Dam, taking out masses of human soldiers and a [[Landmine (Movie)|less-than-functional attack drone]]. Starscream took a [[Salazar|human captive]] along with Frenzy's body, but the fleshling didn't survive the Decepticon's trip to [[Mars]]. However, the trip, combined with the damage from the battle took its toll and upon finding his starship, he had to be helped inside by [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]]. The pair discussed Thundercracker's progress with the space bridge terminal, the physiology of humans and the abilities of Starscream's new form. While recharging, he ordered Thundercracker to download the information from Frenzy; however, an Autobot scouting party interrupted their efforts. {{storylink|The Reign of Starscream Issue Number Two|The Reign of Starscream issue 2}}

[[Image:ROSWannabet.jpg|left|180px|thumb|Let's hope that Dreadwing isn't revived by Unicron.]]
Starscream ordered Thundercracker and the drones to deal with them while he prepared for take off. After recovering, he made short work of the Autobots and dragged a damaged Thundercracker inside the ship, before activating the terminal and warping to Cybertron. He handed Thundercracker over to [[Ramjet (Movie)|Ramjet]], and ordered construction of a [[replica All Spark]], based on Frenzy's data. Approaching Megatron's citadel, Starscream, still impressed by the power his new form gave him, destroyed the former leader's figurehead. {{storylink|The Reign of Starscream Issue Number Three|The Reign of Starscream issue 3}}

A [[Units of time|quartex]] later, Starscream ruminated about ruling over a Cybertron free of war or factions, as well as bringing certain [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|war criminals]] to justice. He arrived at the All Spark construction yard, busted [[Crankcase (Movie)|Crankcase]]'s vocal processor for whining too much, and chained him up along with [[Elita-One|four]] [[Warpath (Movie)|enslaved]] [[Signal Flare (Movie)|Autobot]] [[Grindcore (Movie)|prisoners]] on the new All Spark, ready to offer up their lives in exchange for a new life for Cybertron. {{storylink|The Reign of Starscream Issue Number Four|The Reign of Starscream issue 4}}

[[Image:StarscreamandWreckageAlliance2.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Is it a bird? Is it a plane? Yes, it is!]]

Things sort of went downhill from there, though. First, the All Spark replica didn't work; then [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] rebelled. Then they saw that Arcee had snuck aboard Starscream's ship, led an Autobot attack on [[Simfur]] and destroyed the new All Spark. In the ensuing chaos, Starscream, along with his few remaining loyal subjects, fought off the army of Dreadwing drones and assorted other traitors. Starscream tracked Dreadwing to the space bridge as he took a starship through it. By the time the ship arrived on [[Mars]], it was damaged by Starscream's attack, but Dreadwing survived. However, Starscream also survived, revealed himself, and ripped out Dreadwing's spark core. {{storylink|The Reign of Starscream Issue Number Five|The Reign of Starscream issue 5}}

After Dreadwing's betrayal, Starscream relocated to Earth, his aspirations for leadership and his faith in his fellow Decepticons shattered. As he brooded and carved All Spark runes onto his exo-structure, he picked up a transmission from [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]], informing Starscream of Optimus Prime's forthcoming journey to a Sector Seven facility where Wreckage was held. {{storylink|Alliance issue 1}}

Starscream arrived on Earth not long after Wreckage escaped. The two engaged in a heated battle, each accusing the other of betrayal. Wreckage managed to gain the upper hand, but the timely arrival of Bumblebee gave Starscream the chance to kill Wreckage. He thanked Bumblebee by blasting him, but was contacted by Soundwave before he could finish the job. Shocked that Soundwave was still alive, Starscream was nonetheless pleased when he was told a number of troops were headed for Earth. After receiving co-ordinates to Soundwave's ship, a more enthusiastic Starscream left Earth, aiming to bring the troops aboard out of stasis. {{storylink|Alliance issue 2}}
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===''The Veiled Threat'' prequel novel===
{{Note|The events of ''The Veiled Threat'' take place during [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Alliance (comic)|Alliance]]'' comic.}}
Starscream was in [[Zambia]] where he gained control of the rebel [[Human Accessory Force]] by synthesizing [[gold]] coins with his own body. He sent [[Macerator]], [[Dropkick]] and [[Payload (Movie)|Payload]] to blow up a series of dams along the Zambezi River. Although the free Decepticons were stopped by [[NEST]], Starscream intercepted them and killed [[Beachbreak]], who was hoisting [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] up Victoria Falls.

After this failure, Starscream flew to [[Italy]] where he allied with criminal mastermind [[Bruno Carrera]], promising him rule of Europe once Starscream ruled Earth if he helped kill Optimus Prime. [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]] and [[Jolt (Movie)|Deadend]] drew NEST to Rome, where Starscream challenged Optimus to one-on-one combat in the Coliseum: it was a trap, and Optimus fell through a hidden door into a set of restraints in an underground tunnel built by Carrera. The humans helped Optimus escape though, and Starscream flew off to pay Carrera back for his failure. {{storylink|The Veiled Threat}}

===Titan Magazines ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===

[[Image:Titan1_FallenStarscream.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Hey! C'mon on outa there you!]]

With Megatron dead, Starscream found himself as [[The Fallen]]'s new proxy and was not too happy with the idea of working for another guy ''again''. He organised <strike>his</strike> the Fallen's Decepticon army and took them to Cybertron on the Fallen's orders. Unfortunately he was spied on by [[Mudflap (ROTF)|two]] [[Skids (ROTF)|Autobots]], and failed to exterminate them before they fled to Earth. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.1|Training Day}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Charlie Adler]] (English), [[Tadashi Miyazawa]] (Japanese), [[Axel Lutter]] (German)
{{spoilers|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|July 24}}
Starscream was unconcerned with reviving his leader Megatron, choosing to spend his time as acting commander on the ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]'' and engineer a new army. His plan was failing miserably, as without [[energon (fuel)|energon]] the [[hatchling]]s were dying. After [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] successfully executed his plan to resurrect Megatron, Starscream attempted to welcome his commander with open arms, only to get slammed across a wall and criticized for leaving him for dead. Megatron noted the plight of the hatchlings though, and sought the advice of [[the Fallen]], whom Starscream had kept on life support, on another source of energon now that the [[All Spark]] was destroyed. The Fallen revealed there was another source, but first requested that they kill [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], the last of the [[Dynasty of Primes]], so that he would be safe.

Starscream aided in [[Sam Witwicky]]'s capture by cutting open the car [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] had captured him in, and watched as Megatron and [[Scalpel]] threatened to dissect him for the information in his mind from the All Spark regarding the energon source. Optimus and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] arrived to rescue Sam: Starscream let Megatron do most of the fighting in the factory, before Optimus drove off with Sam to a forest. Starscream arrived immediately going for the boy, but Prime ran interference, leading to the three Decepticons to gang up on him. Surprisingly, it went quite poorly for the Decepticons: not only did Prime kill Grindor and cut off Starscream's arm, but he rubbed salt on the wound by using it to smack him around a few times. Megatron managed to kill Optimus, but before they could retrieve Sam, the rest of the Autobots arrived while Bumblebee spirited Sam away. Megatron and Starscream were forced to retreat.

[[Image:ROTF_movie_MegatronStarscream_roofchat.jpg|thumb|left|300px|25 years later and I'm still your punching bag!]]

Starscream and Megatron flew to the top of a skyscraper, where Megatron berated Starscream and hit him with the detached arm he was trying to stick in. Megatron decided to reveal the Decepticons' presence to the world: Starscream stood openly atop a skyscraper during the rejuvenated Fallen's announcement to the world. Starscream accompanied Megatron to [[Egypt]], standing with him atop the [[Great Pyramid of Giza]] as the Fallen began his plan to activate the [[solar harvester]] inside. Starscream flew after Bumblebee, [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]], who had Sam, [[Mikaela Banes]], [[Leo Spitz]] and [[Seymour Simmons]] as their passengers, bombing them to no avail. As Sam and Mikaela tried to reach Optimus to revive him with the [[Matrix of Leadership]], Starscream hunted for them in robot mode and attempted to capture the Matrix by ordering [[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]] to hold Sam's parents [[Ron Witwicky|Ron]] and [[Judy Witwicky|Judy]] for ransom: Sam was ready to exchange the Matrix, but Bumblebee rescued them and killed Rampage.

Starscream watched from the sidelines as Optimus was resurrected by the Matrix, and combined with [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]]. Although the Fallen had obtained the Matrix and activated his Solar harvester, as he had predicted, the last of the Primes killed the Fallen and destroyed the harvester. Starscream stood next to Megatron, who had lost his right arm and had half his face blown off thanks to Optimus Prime, and advised that they should flee (cowards do survive after all), something that Megatron acknowledged. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}

==Games==
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===Transformers: The Game===
====Autobot campaign====
Starscream, Blackout, and a pair of [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] drones all took on [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] during the battle of [[Mission City]]. Jazz beat all four of them. Guess he finally got to fight the big ones. {{storylink|Transformers The Game (console)}}

====Decepticon campaign====
Starscream coordinated the missions for Blackout and Barricade while hiding in a military base. After receiving information from Barricade that Megatron had been located, Starscream ordered him to proceed to Hoover Dam, while he himself went to locate [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]] and [[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]]. However, the humans were aware of the three Decepticons and used drones, weapon platforms, and fighters based on Cybertronian design. Starscream was forced to move back and forth between Bonecrusher and Brawl, rescuing them from human attackers, all to background music far too heroic for someone of Screamer's character. After taking a moment to enjoy the ruin he had made of the base, Starscream proceeded to Hoover Dam. Blackout informed him that the structure was blocking their scans, so Starscream ordered him to tear it down piece by piece to find Megatron and the All Spark. When Megatron emerged, Starscream bowed before his [[Lord High Protector|Lord]].

At [[Mission City]], Starscream took a moment to [[Ramjet (G1)|ram]] Optimus Prime during the latter's duel with Megatron, and tried to go head to head with Optimus Prime but was knocked away. After Megatron absorbed the All Spark and Earth was decimated, Starscream stood at his master's left side as the Decepticon leader declared their business on Earth was concluded.

There is an unlockable skin for Starscream that gives him a G1 paintjob. {{storylink|Transformers The Game (console)}}

===Transformers: Autobots (DS)===
:''voice actor'': [[Daniel Ross]]

While on a mission in the Arctic to find and destroy Megatron and recover the All Spark, [[Create-A-Bot (Autobot)|Create-A-Bot]] and Ironhide ran into the air commander during their escape. Making Create-A-Bot run for cover, Ironhide took on Starscream and his lackeys (despite mentioning he's "getting too old for this"). Once defeated, Starscream took off into the atmosphere, never to be seen again. {{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Autobots}}

{{Note|Starscream is the only Decepticon in this version of the game who is not definitively destroyed. (Bonecrusher isn't included, since Prime cut off his head on his way in. Bonecrusher hates this game because of that.) Starscream's body type appears as Skydive, unlockable with 2500 WiFi Tokens. In the US, this feature is also unlockable by downloading the ''Transformers'' preview movie from a Target DS Download Station.}}

===Transformers: Decepticons (DS)===
:''Voice actor'': [[Daniel Ross]]

After the disappearance of Megatron nearly a million years ago (yeah, we know), Starscream took over the Decepticons as their high commander. Arriving on Earth, he instructed [[Create-A-Bot (Decepticon)|Create-A-Bot]] to follow Barricade until he arrived. However, none of the other Decepticons would trust him, and he confided in Create-A-Bot a great number of secrets, including the location of the All Spark and the identity of the lost Decepticon they were retrieving: [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]. Starscream reasoned that he hid these things because revealing them would lead to a power struggle, but no one bought it except the naive rookie.

Soon, though, the other Decepticons revealed the reason for their lack of faith (which Create-A-Bot found disturbing): Starscream was a morally ambiguous backstabber. Of course, Megatron wasn't much better, since he was a treacherous, black-hearted face-stabber, but at least he let you know where you stood with him. Once the Autobots returned the All Spark to Tranquility, he gave chase after a now-All Spark-empowered Bumblebee (in the single most frustrating level of the game), caught the "babbling fool", and destroyed a meddlesome Blackout, until Barricade got in the way.

After threat of execution for treason, Starscream proceeded to show the smaller Decepticon WHY Megatron picked him as his second-in-command: his brute strength and incredible battle strategy. After a severe thrashing, Create-A-Bot arrived with intent to kill. However, Starscream now had the All Spark and was nearly unstoppable. They proceeded to battle over the Casino Strip, where Create-A-Bot took the All Spark from him and smashed it into his chest. Create-A-Bot was knocked back and severely damaged by the blast, but Starscream remained as powerful as ever, perhaps more so now that the All Spark had merged with his body. However, as was quickly proven, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscreams]] who receive [[Starscream (Armada)|ungodly power]] tend to explode, as Megatron found him and proceeded to chase and tear him apart. In his last breath, Starscream spat on Megatron's name, saying there would always be those who would question his power. Megatron simply replied by smashing his face in. {{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Decepticons}}

{{note|Starscream's body type is available in two forms, the regular Starscream playable in certain missions (unlocked by beating the game) and G1 Starscream, based on the Target exclusive retooling/redeco. The G1 body is unlocked by earning 2500 WiFi tokens, or by downloading the preview movie for the game from a Target DS Download Station.}}

===Transformers: The Game (PSP)===
Starscream attacked Hoover Dam to free Megatron from his "tomb". Afterwards, he battled [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]] over the leadership of the Decepticons back on Cybertron. {{storylink|Transformers The Game (PSP)}}
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==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:Movie Legends Starscream.jpg|right|250px|thumb|A gold paint job can't hide the lameness.]]
*'''Starscream''' (Legends Class, 2007)

: Legends-class Starscream is a highly simplified, low-cost version of Starscream in his F-22 Raptor body. As such, he has a greatly compromised transformation sequence due to the smaller parts count, with limited articulation and detailing. He's also the bronzest F-22 Raptor Starscream toy there is.

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[[Image:Movie Allspark Legends pack.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Tiny toys are tiny. And they don't do Starscream justice.]]
*'''Battle for the Allspark''' (Toys'R'Us exclusive multi-pack, 2007)

: A Toys R Us exclusive, this six-pack of Legends class figures contains unmodified toys of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]], [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], Starscream and [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]].

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*'''Nightwatch Optimus Prime vs. Stealth Starscream''' (Legends Allspark Battles two-pack, 2008)

: The previously released Legends-class Starscream toy is redecoed predominantly black and silver, somewhat resembling ''Generation 1'' [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]. He comes with a redeco Legends-class [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] in his Nightwatch color scheme.

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:MovieProtoform Starscream toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Gold Plastic Syndrome just waiting to happen.]]
*'''Protoform Starscream''' (Deluxe, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-05'''
**''Accessories:'' Gun with missile and flame attachment

:Based upon the "Protoform" (Cybertronian) appearances of the Transformers in the movie, Protoform Starscream transforms into his "entry" mode Cybertronic rocket thing. This mode somewhat resembles a Cybertronic spaceship, with a visible bridge between the two dorsal fins. A flame decoration piece fits onto the back of the "vehicle" over the missile projectile, creating the illusion of a flaming comet's tail . The bottom of the vehicle has small wheels to roll the toy across smooth surfaces.

:In robot mode, Starscream marginally resembles previous Starscreams, mostly G1 Starscream, with the large turbines on his chest, wings and vents on his legs. Due to his extensive use of ball joints, he has excellent articulation. Starscream is armed with a spring-loaded missile launcher that fires the previously mentioned projectile cast in the same bronze color as his body. Alternatively, the flame decoration can be fitted onto the end of the barrel.

:This toy also has an [[Automorph Technology|Automorphing]] feature, as most of the figures in the main line do. Pushing his head back during transformation will move his shoulder pieces back into place, while moving the shoulders forward will make the head pop back up. While either the missile or the flame can be placed into the gun, the flame can be placed onto the missile, using both at once. However, in some cases, the flame does not have a snug fit on the missile and falls off easily. This makes firing the missile rather awkward and makes the gun look extremely goofy.

: It's also entirely possible that this figure will eventually suffer from [[Gold Plastic Syndrome|GPS]], as the bronze plastic it is cast in has the same characteristic swirling exhibited by older figures that rapidly deteriorated. However, newer materials and processes may prevent the toy from ever seeing a single crack form. It is highly suggested that this toy not be painted or altered in any way to maximize its lifespan.

*'''Protoform Starscream Fusion Cluster Edition''' (C3xHobby Convention exclusive Deluxe, Japan 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Gun with missile and flame attachment

:An extensive redeco of the Protoform Starscream mold that was exclusively available at the Japanese C3xHobby Convention in August of 2007, and later offered by [[e-Hobby]] in limited quantities. Most of the body is made out of transparent orange plastic, while orange and yellow paint are used on the front end of the "entry" mode, mimicking the heat effects of sudden atmospheric entry. The flame attachment is made out of clear ''blue'' plastic, with the tail end being covered in ''gold'' paint.

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====Voyager Class toys====
[[Image:Movie Voyager Starscream toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Shake hands with danger.]]
*'''Starscream''' (Voyager, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-08'''
**''Accessories:'' Six missiles

: The Voyager-class version of Movie Starscream transforms into an officially-licensed [[wikipedia:F-22|Lockheed-Martin F-22 Raptor fighter jet]], albeit in beige.

:Pushing the fighter along a smooth surface causes the missile-launching barrels to rotate and fire their projectiles, which can also be stored in the black flip-up braces on the launchers. During transformation, pushing up upon the canopy fuselage piece activates Starscream's [[Automorph Technology|Automorphing]] gimmick, which pushes panels out of the torso, wings and stabilizers. In robot mode, Starscream is mostly faithful to his movie CGI model, except for being bulkier around his chest, lacking engines on his back and having the very large Gatling cannons serve as his arms (a facsimile of his much slenderer weapons from the movie). Interestingly, his projectile missiles are sculpted to resemble fingers, should users choose keep them loaded while Starscream is in robot mode. An interesting note is [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle's]] (or Camshaft's) hands, when detached, make a snug fit in between the three main cannons; if you're feeling sillier, ''Legends'' [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron's]] shoulder does, too. Go on, try it yourself, yes, we'll wait...

:This toy was later retooled and [[Redeco|redecoed]] into Movie [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]], ROTF [[Ramjet (Movie)|Ramjet]] and, ROTF [[Skywarp (ROTF)|Skywarp]].

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*'''Battle damage three-pack''' (Sam's Club exclusive three-pack, 2007)

:A three-pack, exclusive to Sam's Club stores, consisting of redecos of Voyager Class [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and Deluxe Class [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]], both with a battle damage deco, and an unchanged Voyager Class Starscream.

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[[Image:Starscream target.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"The first G1 fan who complains gets a minigun... to the face."]]
*'''Starscream''' (Target exclusive Voyager-sized toy, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Six missiles

: An extensive redeco of Voyager class Starscream available only as a Target [[exclusive]], this version is [[Redeco|redecoed]] in a color scheme based upon ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. This version of Starscream shares the retooled version of this mold with Movie Thundercracker, giving Starscream a new, vaguely G1-ish head sculpt. The packaging for this toy explains that Starscream altered his appearance following his escape at the end of the film in order to avoid detection.

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[[Image:Starscream Vardia red.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Pinkscream]]
*'''Starscream Vardia Red Model''' (Toshiba exclusive Voyager-sized toy, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Six missiles

: In a joint venture by Paramount Home Entertainment Japan and electronics giant [[wikipedia:Toshiba|Toshiba]], Starscream Vardia Red Model is an exclusive redeco of Voyager Starscream only available with Toshiba's new ''Vardia'' RD-A301 HD DVD recorder. The package also comes with an HD-DVD copy of ''Transformers'', five HD DVD-R and five DVD-R discs.

:Starscream Vardia Red Model is '''extremely''' red, with some gold, a little black and Toshiba ''Vardia'' markings on his hull. With the player expected to cost just under 100,000 yen, this may be the most expensive Transformers exclusive to be released in relatively large quantities.

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[[Image:Movie DeepSpaceStarscream toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|I'm Starscream, and I can breathe in space. ]]
*'''Deep Space Starscream''' (Target exclusive "Premium Series" Voyager, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' Six missiles

:A Target exclusive (But appeared in European retail in 2009), Deep Space Starscream is a redeco of the first version of Voyager class Starscream, based upon the colours used by [[Industrial Light & Magic]] on Starscream's CGI model (instead of the totally made up and inaccurate tan colouring on the previous release). As such he is metallic silver with complementary greys in fighter mode, including the 'First Fighter' (FF) squadron markings indicating he is an F-22 Raptor from [[wikipedia:Langley_Air_Force_Base|Langley Air Force Base]]. In robot mode reveals gold paint inside his chest detailing and red for circuitry detailing. Oddly, his eyes are painted red, but the rest of the [[Light-piping]] that makes up the back of his head is left uncolored, making the glowing eye effect no longer work while STILL retaining the miscolored bronzed glass color that the clear plastic was molded in, though the paint is fairly easy to remove.

: Deep Space Starscream is presented in 'Premium Octagonal' packaging very similar to Robo-Vision Optimus Prime. Even though Hasbro officially considers him as part of the Premium Series, this is not indicated anywhere on the packaging.

====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:Movie FAB Starscream.jpg|right|250px|thumb|You are the Dragon Booster Artha!]]
*'''Battle Blade Starscream''' (Fast Action Battler, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''QC-02'''

: [[Fast Action Battler|Fast Action Battlers]] "Battle Blade" Starscream transforms into a somewhat superdeformed F-22 Raptor, simplifying the overall design to the point of his feet noticeably sticking out the aft of the fighter, and has a truncated transformation sequence reminiscent of past Transformers such as ''Generation 1'' [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] and ''Cybertron'' [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]]. Rather than having a separate weapon, he only has a claw-like blade that flips over the right hand (hence "Battle Blade") and non-removable missiles in the palms of his hands.

: This toy was later redecoed as [[Ramjet (Movie)|Claw Slash Ramjet]].

: There is a Korean [[Knockoff|fake]] of this model going around, under the name of "Latent Spider". Fortunately no real spiders have been found latent inside the toy.

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====Other toys====
*'''Starscream''' (Little Red Rooster Meal, 2007)

:One of five toys that was available at Red Rooster, an Australian based fast food chain. This kids meal toy is a black F-22 Raptor with a silver canopy that transforms by simply flipping the jet around to reveal the gray robot mode underneath, pulling down the landing gear and legs, and standing him upright.

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===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:Starscream ROTF Legends toy.jpg|right|thumb|250px|So I wake up with a hangover and find all these tattoos all over me. Damn parties.]]
*'''Starscream''' (Legends, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''EZ-04'''

:Legends class Starscream is a redeco of 2007's Legends class Starscream, the main difference being a mostly single main colour scheme (compared to 2007's rather random colour choices) and the ''Revenge of the Fallen''-specific Cyberglyph tattoos.
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====Voyager Class toys====
[[Image:ROTF Voyager Starscream.jpg|right|300px|thumb|At long last, I have fingers! And tattoos! Odd.]]
*'''Starscream''' (Voyager, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RD-02'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 projectiles

:''[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' Voyager class Starscream is an all new mold that is far more accurate in both modes than the previous Voyager Starscream toy from the 2007 ''Transformers'' movie line. Although his F-22 Raptor mode's design is no longer severely compromised by the play pattern or transformation gimmicks that plagued the 2007 toy, it still suffers as Starscream's hands essentially stick out the back end. His robot mode is more accurate to the movie design, no longer burdened with having giant handless rotating missile launchers, ''Revenge'' Starscream has 2 arm-mounted launchers sculpted to resemble his [[wikipedia:M61_Vulcan|M61A2 Vulcan 20 mm rotary cannon]]. Starscream's [[Mech Alive]] gimmick is linked between his head and chest: when you turn his head, the gears in his chest spin. Curiously, although almost every other part of his alt mode is rearranged, this Starscream's nose cone ''doesn't'' flip down to reveal his head. He has amber light piping for his eyes, but they've been painted over in red.

[[Image:ROTFtoy-StarscreamVoyager-popoutlaunchers.jpg|left|thumb|150px|I had more joints!]]

:The surface of Starscream's fighter mode and robot mode are covered in [[Cybertronian_languages#Transformers_.282007.29|Cybertronian glyphs]], based on his appearance in the [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie]], but chronologically first appeared in [[Alliance issue 1]]. In a strange backwards step from the mostly-accurate Deep Space Starscream, and his stock photo, ''Revenge'' Starscream's main base color is a light beige.

:According to the stock photographs of the hand-painted prototype, Starscream's hands originally had a joint down the middle of his palms, possibly to facilitate in hiding them in fighter mode. His arm-mounted cannons were also originally separate parts from his forearms, jointed to move back and forth, again possibly to hide them in fighter mode. However, on the final toy, the hands are molded as one piece and cannot be hidden in vehicle mode, and his cannons' details (including the joints) are simply molded directly onto his arms. His knee caps were also a separate movable piece and not joined to his upper leg. It is assumed this was done for cost cutting. His packaging call-outs (excepting Europe) still claim that he has "pop out missile launchers," despite this gimmick's removal.
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====Leader Class toys====
*'''Starscream''' (Leader, 2010)
**''Japanese ID number:''
**''Accessories:''
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====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:Starscream ROTF FAB toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Kids, tattoos are awesome, get some NOW!]]
*'''Starscream''' (Fast Action Battler, 2009)

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====Gravity Bots====
[[Image:ROTF GravityBots Starscream.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Some toys have hands or maybe a head sticking out of their alternate modes, but Starscream has WHOLE LEGS.]]
*'''Starscream''' (Gravity Bot, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''GB-03'''

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====Robot Replicas====
[[Image:ROTF RobotReplicas Starscream.jpg|right|150px|thumb|"Hey guys, like my tattoos?"]]
*'''Starscream''' (Robot Replica, 2009)
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==Merchandise==
===Transformers (2007)===
[[Image:Starscreambarrelrollblaster.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Eat your heart out, Peppy.]]
*'''Starscream Barrel Roll Blaster''' (2007)
**''Accessories:'' 4 Nerf N-Strike foam missiles

:This version of Starscream's altmode turns into not a robot, but a robot '''fist''' holding a two-barreled blaster. The guns in this form fire [[Nerf]] N-Strike-sized foam missiles.

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*'''Lunchables''' "Pocket Transformers" toy prize (2007)

[[Image:Starscreamlunchables.jpg|right|180px|thumb|I come with crappy chicken.]]
:Free inside specially marked boxes of Oscar Meyer Lunchables dinners, Starscream is one of six "Pocket Transformers" toy prizes. Molded in green, his tablet unfolds to reveal a picture of his robot mode inside.

:The Lunchables website code engraved on his back is "MISLEAD."

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*'''Starscream Micro Flyer''' (2007)

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*'''Starscream''' Burger King free toy (2007)

:A non-transformable version of Starscream, cast primarily in chalk-grey plastic. It can rotate its arms at the shoulder. The toy's main gimmick, though, is the wheel in his chest. Striking the wheel causes it to advance to the next slot, revealing damage to Starscream's torso. A second tap reveals even more damage. Despite being a free pack-in toy, the figure is surprisingly well molded, having well defined head parts and the twin afterburners on his back that even the Voyager version lacks. It even has six fingers (or rather, four fingers and two thumbs) on each hand!

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====Basic Fun====
*'''Articulated keychain''' (2009)

: Produced by [[Basic Fun]], this keychain is a likeness of Starscream's robot mode with articulated arms, legs, head, waist, and a keyring sticking out of his ass.
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*'''Mini Figural Clip-Ons''' (2009)
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===Robot Heroes===
*'''Armored Bumblebee vs. Starscream''' (2007)

[[Image:Rhstarbee.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Packaged with Bumblebee holding the Allspark. TWICE.]]
:Robot Heroes Starscream is sculpted in a crouching pose, possibly inspired by his landing when talking to Megatron in the film. He has the standard Robot Heroes articulation of both shoulders and his neck, however the pre-posed nature means his right arms is really more useful as a support than a usable joint.

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*'''Bumblebee vs. Starscream''' (2008)

[[Image:RH Movie Bumblebee Starscream.jpg|right|300px|thumb|It's my turn to use the Rubik's Cube, Bumblebee!]]
:This version of Starscream is almost a prelude to the previous one, as he's now sculpted in a touching down pose as opposed to a full land. Like the previous mold, it has articulation at the shoulders and neck. Unfortunately, the left arm is lifted straight out to side, allowing him to rotate the arm but not pose it.

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*'''Autobot Springer and Starscream''' (2009)

[[Image:Robotheroesspringerstarscream.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Who's ''that'' dude?]]
: Starscream is part of the first wave of ''[[Revenge of the Fallen]]'' ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' figures and is packaged versus [[Springer (ROTF)|Springer]]. A [[redeco]] of the first Movie-style Starscream, he still has articulation at the shoulders and neck, and now sports [[Cyberglyphics]] tattooed on his body.
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*'''Battle for the Allspark''' (2009)

:Packaged in a set depicting the battle in [[Mission City]] with [[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Brawl]], [[Ratchet (Movie)|Autobot Ratchet]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], plus new figures of [[Sam Witwicky]], [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] in truck mode and Bumblebee in vehicle mode, this is the first Starscream Robot Heroes figurine in vehicle mode.

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==Trivia==
* The card back of Protoform Starscream's packaging features a completely different, earlier head sculpt. What's more, this head design is featured on his protoform body in IDW's movie prequel comics.

* His protoform was not the only design to get a new head. The earliest concepts of Starscream's head were more skull-like and oblong in shape. This was, of course, redesigned to look more "like a samurai helmet." Unlike the redesigned head of Megatron, Starscream's earlier face only shows up in ''one'' piece of media: the book [[Look and Find Transformers]].

* On-screen in the first live-action movie, Starscream has only one short conversation with Megatron and a total screen time of less than 10 minutes. The tie-in fictions are ''much'' kinder.

* It has been suggested that, following his attack on the F-22 squadron over the city, Starscream was able to hide among the survivors and take part in the attack on Megatron shortly thereafter. This theory is speculative; while it fits the character of the G1 Starscream from the '80s, there is nothing actually on the screen to suggest it. (Roberto Orci was asked, but refused to give a definite answer.)<ref>http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showpost.php?p=387172&postcount=185 Roberto Orci refusing to comment on the possibility of Starscream attacking Megatron during the final battle</ref>

* The Sector Seven online ARG used the "[[Masterpiece]]" version of [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] to represent the "real" Starscream who had infiltrated Earth. A lot of Generation 1 cameos were made in this manner. Make of that what you will.

* Even though Starscream had only two lines of dialogue in the first film, José Sant'anna, who played the Generation 1 character in the Brazilian dub of the original cartoon, was re-cast to play the role in the movie. However, his voice was so heavily modulated that only someone with a really good ear could recognize him. Go figure.

*Speaking of two dialogues, most of his lines are Cybertronian. He begins his role with speaking Cybertronian ("This is Starscream. All Decepticons mobilize") and ends with saying another Cybertronian line that isn't subtitled. Of course, he could have been talking to himself (as he does when he reaches Sector Seven) or even cursing. Considering ''The Reign of Starscream'' has a guy exploding inside him at this point, swearing seems appropriate.

*He's probably the only Starscream that hasn't died or suffered grievous bodily damage. ''Yet''.
** Although he loses an arm in ''RotF'', he eventually (when Megatron stops slapping him with it) puts it back on. Must be a ball joint.

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== Footnotes ==
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==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/2007/Decepticon/ProtoformStarscream/starscream.htm Starscream at TFU.info]

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Talk:Nemesis (ROTF)

2009-07-06T18:08:10Z

137.195.68.169: /* Location */

Seymour Simmons

2009-07-03T17:41:24Z

137.195.68.169: /* Revenge of the Fallen movie */ That's not the impression I had

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:''Agent Simmons is a [[human]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|2007 movie franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Simmonsthatwouldbecrazy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Pause for effect...pause for effect...pause for effect...]]
Agent '''Seymour Simmons''' is the head officer of [[Sector Seven]]'s Field Agents. His family has been in Sector Seven since day one, when his great-grandfather helped dig [[Megatron (Movie)|the Ice Man]] out of the Arctic. He might come off as [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|a jerk]], but he takes this work very personally. After all, it's in his blood.

He's just a smidge off his nut—eccentric, weird, crazy, whatever you want to call it. He's strange, and he wears Hawaiian underwear, Sector Seven undershirts, and clip-on ties.

He is the son of [[Felix Simmons|Felix]] <ref>''Revenge of the Fallen''</ref> and [[Tova Simmons]]<ref>''The Veiled Threat''</ref>.

{{bigquote|Yes, well...he's very strange.|[[John Keller]] on Simmons|''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]''}}

==Fiction==
===Sector Seven ARG===
Seymour Simmons is a fictional character in a fictional Transformers movie produced by the ''real'' Sector Seven, masterminded by [[Reggie Simmons]]. {{storylink|Sector Seven (game)}}

===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
[[Image:MoviePrequel4_Simmons_familyhistory.jpg|thumb|left|350px| It's not so much a circle as it is a straight line]]

In 2003, Simmons led a team of Sector Seven agents in an attempt to capture [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], then known as NBE-2. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 3|Prime Directive (IDW) issue 3}} The attempt involved luring him into a trap using an artificial isotope derived from the sub-atomic matter of the [[All Spark|cube]], which put out an almost identical energy signature to that of the cube. After the team spent two days waiting in the New Mexico desert, Bumblebee appeared, followed by the Decepticons [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]], [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]], and [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]. Thanks to the Decepticons, who destroyed several Apache helicopters and tried to hack into Sector Seven's network, Simmons's plan to capture Bumblebee failed horribly. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 4|Prime Directive (IDW) issue 4}}
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===''Transformers'' (2007 film)===
:''Actor:'' [[John Turturro]] (English) [[Yūichi Nagashima]] (Japanese-language dub voice)

[[Image:Movie2007_Simmons_badge.jpg|thumb|250px| Eat it]]

Agent Simmons went to the Witwicky residence when Sector Seven suspected that [[Sam Witwicky]] had made contact with an [[Non-Biological Extraterrestrial|N.B.E.]] they were tracking. Taking Sam and [[Mikaela Banes]] into custody, he got too into the bad cop role, threatening Sam with life imprisonment, threatening Mikaela's father's parole, and revealing Mikaela's own criminal record. This strategy nearly succeeded...until a seriously pissed off [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] decided to pay Sam and Mikaela's bail—by jumping right in front of their SUV, lifting it off the ground, and tearing the roof off. Although Simmons tried to call for calm, the [[Autobot|Autobots]] easily disarmed the agents. To Simmons's credit, he himself remained calm, while the guy to his left looked like he was going to wet himself.

[[Image:Movie2007_Bumblebee_lubricates_Simmons.JPG|left|250px|thumb|Dear America. Please Stop. Love, Germany.]]

Prime attempted to interrogate Simmons, who revealed that the only communication he was authorized to have with the N.B.E.s was to tell them he wasn't authorized to communicate with them. He also refused to answer any questions from Sam and Mikaela about Sector Seven or how they knew of the Autobots. Annoyed by his attitude, [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] released [[lubricant]] on him, and then Mikaela had Simmons strip as punishment for threatening her father. Simmons had little to worry about when he was handcuffed to a pole, as a fellow agent had already alerted their confederates. Most of the Autobots managed to elude Sector Seven, but Bumblebee was captured when he saved Sam and Mikaela from a fall.

[[Image:Movie2007_Simmons_FWOOP.jpg|thumb|250px|Hooch is crazy...]]

After arriving at [[Hoover Dam]] (and presumably taking the ''longest'' shower of his life), Agent Simmons, in a new, clean, and higher-in-authority uniform, and trying the awkward role of good cop, told Sam and Mikaela that they may have gotten off on the wrong foot. Taking them to see the [[Megatron (Movie)|Mega Man]], Simmons was told of Megatron's plans by Sam. However, [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] had infiltrated the dam and sent a message to the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]], causing [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] to attack. Sam urged Simmons to release Bumblebee, saying he would help, but Simmons stubbornly refused. [[William Lennox|Captain Lennox]] decided to apply some armed persuasion, which Simmons still refused to heed, leading to a standoff between the rangers and Sector Seven agents. The rangers won. After Bumblebee reformatted the Cube, Simmons, [[John Keller|Secretary Keller]], [[Maggie Madsen]], and [[Glen Whitmann]] went to the dam's archives, where they managed to send out an S.O.S. via an old radio in there, while Keller and Simmons provided cover fire against an attacking Frenzy. {{storylink|Transformers (2007)|Transformers (2007)}}
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===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
Simmons, Banachek and John Keller were on their way to Mission City when [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] attacked Hoover Dam. {{storylink|The Reign of Starscream Issue Number Two}}

[[Image:Alliance1_Simmons_Lennox_Epps.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Don't f**k with The Jesus!]]

Arriving shortly after the battle in Mission City, Simmons asked [[William Lennox]] and [[Robert Epps]] to join Sector Seven; they agreed after Sam inadvertently called Epps while in conversation with Simmons, which sort of ruined Lennox's excuse. The next day, Simmons informed [[Professor Vine]] that he had one month to study the defeated Decepticons before they were dumped in the [[Laurentian Abyss]]. He also suggested they wake up "[[Wreckage (Movie)|sleeping beauty]]" to see if he had anything to offer. When the scientist worried that Wreckage couldn't be re-activated, especially not since [[Salazar]] was lost, Simmons called Lennox, saying the soldier had friends that could "make him" wake up. {{storylink|Alliance issue 1}}

Before the Autobots arrived at the [[Nevada]] desert facility to escort the convoy carrying the Decepticon bodies away, Simmons agreed with Vine about having to dump the Decepticons into the sea, grousing that the aliens turned a city into a battleground and now they had to throw a treasure trove of information away. While they reminisced about how Salazar was able to learn from Wreckage and create the [[Landmine (Movie)|L.M.-1 units]], Simmons was dismissive and callous about the sentience of the Cybertronians, refusing to refer to Wreckage by his name, preferring to call him N.B.E.-3. At Optimus Prime's behest, Vine took the surviving All Spark shard for safekeeping, fearing it might reactivate the dead Megatron.
Simmons and [[Salani]] persuaded Vine to take the fragment underground to hide it from any Decepticons that might still be skulking about, but as soon as they entered the main holding chamber, the fragment flew out of Simmons's hands and revived Wreckage. Wreckage rampaged through the base, destroying the L.M.-1s and fighting Starscream in a struggle leading to numerous deaths. {{storylink|Alliance issue 2}} While secretly taking [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]]'s head, which had fallen out of Starscream's cockpit, Simmons was left to wonder about the Transformers' sense of morality before being relieved of his duties by John Keller. {{storylink|Alliance issue 3}}

===''The Veiled Threat'' prequel novel===
{{Note|The events of ''The Veiled Threat'' take place during [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Alliance (comic)|Alliance]]'' comic.}}

After Sector Seven was shut down, Simmons was not invited to join [[NEST]], despite his best efforts. Simmons was convinced that it was because he had been mean to that Witwicky kid and his car stealing girlfriend, even though the official reason was concern that he might be a little unstable (probably the actual reason). Convinced that the Autobots were equally attempting to invade Earth, Simmons managed to save (stealing is so pejorative) documents from Sector Seven, as well as Frenzy's head, in the hopes of learning everything he could to stop both factions and save the planet. Although his pension took care of his needs, he decided to work in his mother's deli, where every day he would take orders from people with stupid tastes in Italian meat. One night while working, Frenzy began to spazz out of control and nearly fried the building's electrical system, forcing Simmons to shut him down. After a mild complaint by his landlord, Simmons decided to relocate Frenzy and the documents to the basement of his mother's deli, the safest alternative he could think of.{{storylink|The Veiled Threat}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===
:''Actor:'' [[John Turturro]] (English)
[[Image:Rotf t2 simmonsclassified.jpg|thumb|My mother's sandwich recipe is classified. ''Real'' effing classified.]]
Simmons set up a website, ''[[GiantEffingRobots.com]]'', under the alias [[Robo-Warrior]], where he developed a rivalry with ''[[The Real Effing Deal]]''. One day, after his hometown of [[New York City]] had been attacked by [[Decepticon]] [[protoform]]s and [[The Fallen]] had broadcast a threat across the world, ''The Real Effing Deal'''s webmaster, [[Leo Spitz]], walked into his deli. Leo tried to be civil about their rivalry, as he recognized he needed Robo-warrior's aid, but Simmons initially feigned ignorance of his site and then began criticizing Leo's work. Then, when [[Sam Witwicky]] and [[Mikaela Banes]] walked through his door, visibly shocked at whom they were dealing with, Simmons vented further, admonishing Sam over how [[Megatron (Movie)|N.B.E. 01]] was ''still'' alive and blaming them for the loss of his job.

Once Simmons heard how Sam needed ''his'' help, he closed his shop early to show them something top secret. He opened a hidden stairway in the cold storage room that led to a room filled with classified files (as well as Frenzy's head), which he'd taken for himself before Sector Seven closed its doors. Simmons revealed the [[Cyberglyphics]] Sam was hallucinating about could be found all over the globe, a clear sign the [[Transformer]]s had visited the planet long before the [[All Spark]] and Megatron. Simmons explained he had been keen to investigate evidence of other Transformers lying inert on Earth, but Sector Seven had denied him permission, deeming it an ''obsession''. Mikaela brought [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] into the room, and he identified several of the machines in Simmons's photographs as [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seekers]], who had come to Earth ages ago searching for something.

Journeying to the nearest known Seeker at the Smithsonian, Simmons hatched a plan to get past security after hours that essentially involved him tasering the guards: Simmons was successful in taking down the guard to whom he'd assigned himself, but Leo wound up tasering himself too. Simmons had to drag him to where Sam, Mikaela and Wheelie had detected [[energon radiation]], and they found their Seeker was an SR-71 Blackbird. Sam's All Spark fragment reactivated the jet, who was actually the former Decepticon [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]]. The grouchy Seeker used a [[space bridge]] to transport them to [[Egypt]], where he told them the story of the [[The Fallen]], the [[solar harvester]], and the [[Matrix of Leadership]] needed to power it, which was hidden in the [[Tomb of the Primes]]. The four humans plus Wheelie, [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] went searching for the Matrix to resurrect [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]].

Simmons used his intelligence skills to evade detection, as The Fallen's demand for Sam's capture made Sam a wanted man. He contacted [[NEST]], telling them to bring Optimus's body to Egypt. Then he got Sam across the [[Jordan]]ian border, mainly because the border guard liked New York and was amiable enough to let his "family" pass. Sam worked out the only clue to the tomb and uncovered the Matrix in [[Petra]]. As Bumblebee drove them back to Egypt, they were attacked by [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]. Sam ran off to revive Optimus, who was being protected by NEST in ruins near the [[pyramid]]s, while Simmons played decoy and drove in Skids to a quarry. Simmons relished his supporting role, proclaiming he was "One man, abandoned by the country he loves," despite Leo's presence.

Simmons and Leo were driven by Skids and Mudflap into a quarry near the pyramids, where they witnessed the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]]s combine into [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]]. Simmons avoided being sucked into the giant's mouth by running for his legs. As Devastator clambered up the [[Great Pyramid of Giza]], Simmons retrieved a radio from a Jordanian helicopter that Megatron had downed, which he used to contact the [[United States Navy]]. Simmons followed Devastator up the pyramid-despite Leo's protests-with the radio in hand, wheedling his way around a captain's tedious demand as to how he knew of their top secret [[Wikipedia:railgun|railgun]] that were based on studies of Megatron. As he climbed the pyramid, Simmons probably became the only human to acknowledge Devastator had two wrecking balls resembling the male scrotum. After the Navy successfully fired on the behemoth, Simmons gained military backup for NEST, whose phone signals had been jammed by [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]]. After Optimus was raised from the dead and The Fallen's defeat, Simmons was welcomed back to NEST with Leo as his comrade in arms. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}
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==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
[[Image:Movie ScreenBattles Sector7figures.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Unposable weirdo.]]
*'''Capture of Bumblebee''' (Screen Battles, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''SB-04'''

:This ''Screen Battles'' pack comes with a redecoed Camaro Concept Deluxe class Bumblebee featuring a more accurate grey color scheme for his robot mode parts and a silver-painted face and toes. The pack also comes with non-posable figurines of [[Sector Seven]] agent Seymour Simmons and two Sector Seven soldiers, one carrying a cryo-freezing cannon and one carrying a grenade launcher.

:This set comes in a special window box featuring a diorama background of the scene where Bumblebee is captured by Sector Seven forces.

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==Notes==
*According to the director's commentary on the ''Transformers'' DVD, Turturro based his performance as Simmons on [[Michael Bay]].

==References==
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MediaWiki talk:Policies

2009-07-03T13:59:22Z

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I have mixed feelings on this page. It has some new content, but seems sort of redundant with other stuff that's already in the Help namespace, such as the notes on [[Help:Contents]]. I feel like it could just be merged (to some balance we can decide later) with the pre-existing help pages. I realize that "Policies" is a sort of standard page for wikis to have, but, that doesn't mean we have to do it the same way. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 02:12, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

:True. Mostly I wanted a place to put coherent statements of certain key issues (humor, copyright, etc) that we end up having to explain frequently.
:I agree about the redundancy, but the help page is already redundant with the style guide (and certain elements of the community portal.) Since it wasn't clear where this should go, and the redundant pages clearly need a major housecleaning ''anyway'', I stuck this on a Wiki-standard Policies page knowing the all 3 (4?) pages are probably going to end up unified rearranged and reorganized at some point. For now I'm content to let it be messy. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

== Prime's 30+ modes citation ==

Would it be considered poor form to insert a footnote with links to the various OP pages on the wiki, or at least the OP disambiguation page?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 23:31, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

==Profanity==
Is there any way to have "fuck" and "cunt" not immediately visible? Like, you have to click-and-highlight the text to read it? It just seems a little fucking odd to say we don't use those words on non-talk pages then ''boom'', there they are plain as day. It makes us look like cunts. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:18, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:I think it'd definitely be possible, assuming I haven't made some grievous overestimation of how much control we have over the javascript in pages; I'd be willing to look into it if enough people actually think it's a good idea. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 05:36, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'd just be happy if they were invalid choices for ''usernames''.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 05:51, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's worth looking at. The idea that kids might stumble upon the wiki - not at all unlikely, I think - and think it's a cool place to browse around, only to stumble upon something like, well, the above... it bothers me. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 06:20, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Wikipedia doesn't use mouseover-spoilers setups because they don't work for a small portion of browsers- leaving the spoilers permanently (and frustratingly) obscured. (And in the case of screenreaders for the blind they don't obscure them at all- searing underage ears with horrible spoilers/profainity!)
:::While I'd find it odd for TT1's small uderage audience to find their way to our policy page-- your point is well taken. I recommend changing the links ot read "The f-bomb and the c-bomb," everyone knows what they are. (And if they don't know they can click on the wikipedia links, fairly warned that they can expect something offensive if they do so.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:45, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

==They don't ALL have to be jokes...==
Browsing various pages here, it occurs to me that new fans, or fans who missed major chunks of the franchise over the years, might really be left in the dark by overuse of funny captions. Not everyone has seen everything we've seen; heck, not even all of "we" have seen everything the rest have seen. Just to draw a random example, and not to single out anyone--[[Evac]]. Like probably a lot of people, I watched only a fraction of the Unicron Trilogy. I can't instantly identify lots of characters and I sure as heck don't associate screencaps with storyline events. And honestly... as years go by, that's going to be how a lot of people deal with the Beast era and thereafter as well. I guess my point is to suggest people re-examine articles they've made or contributed to and try to see if there really is room for confusion about what the image shows--and if so, just make a "real" caption. People aren't going to want to read the entire article in order to glean the context necessary to figure out what's really going on. I'm as guilty of this as anybody, hence why I'm about to go fidget with [[protohuman]] too.... at least there I do know what's going on. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 16:31, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
:I almost never write captions because I can't think of anything funny. Then again, I also question the alledged amusement factor of the BW Dinobot ATT link. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
:I agree with this in principle, though I think the "Dinobot's accesories" [[protohuman]] caption, combined with the body text, was adequately informative. I would ask, however, that when you make such changes, you include your reasons in the summary field, so's we don't have to guess why some funny went away. [[User:JW|JW]] 20:11, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

==Caption accessability==

I was about to post something here about how informative captions aren't just patronising, because with images off or when using as screen reader, they allow you to know what the image content is. Then I wondered how many Transformers fans actually are blind, and in retrospect, I'm not convinced I was making a rational decision here...[[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 09:59, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

Talk:Nemesis (ROTF)

2009-07-02T11:22:59Z

137.195.68.169: Is it actually Saturn?

Seeker (body-type)

2009-07-01T12:12:12Z

137.195.68.169: /* Live-action movie franchise Seekers */

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[[Image:Seekers.png|right|300px|thumb|Well, they keep the toy-repainting fans off the streets, at least. (Generic Seekers from, clockwise: 1) MtMtE Part 3, 2) sticker sheet, 3-6) Five Faces of Darkness)]]

The term '''Seeker''' refers to [[Decepticon]] jet troopers who all share the same [[body-type]]. That is, the Decepticons in [[Generation 1]] that looked like [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], but in different colors or with minor variations in wing and head shapes, and also the Decepticons in later franchises such as ''[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' where similar "families" of jets appear.

The word "Seeker" hovered a long time in a strange gray area between official and fan-coined terms. It seems to have originated in ''extremely'' obscure official or semi-official writing, but somehow became widely used among fans. In 2002, the term appeared in dialog from the first issue of ''[[The War Within]]'' from [[Dreamwave Productions]], [[Canonizing|making it truly official]] after years of controversy. It has subsequently appeared in many other places such as on toy packaging, books, and in other stories.

:''Japanese name:'' '''Jetron'''

==Generation 1 Seekers==
===Originals===
[[Image:MainSeekers.gif|300px|thumb|right|The original Seekers]]
In Generation 1, there were six Seekers originally given names and characterization: [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]. The first three, the season one Seekers, had animation designs done primarily by [[Shōhei Kohara]].
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===Coneheads===
[[Image:ConeheadsGenerations1.jpg|200px|thumb|right|The Coneheads.]]
The last three Generation 1 Seekers are usually designated as "[[Conehead]]" Seekers by fans for their distinctive transformation that leaves the jet nosecone pointing up. The animation models for the Conehead Seekers were designed by [[Floro Dery]],
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===Skyraiders===
[[Image:WingsofHonor-Skyraiders.jpg|right|thumb|250px|New guys, same ol' body-type.]]
The term "Skyraiders," (see [[Seeker_(G1)#Alternate_terms|alternate terms]]) was assigned to the prototypical Starscream-like air warriors that [[Skyquake (G1)|Skyquake]] developed at the very beginning of the war. The ranks of the Skyraiders did not seem to include any of the usual Seekers, but instead were comprised of other flying Decepticon characters. In addition to Skyquake himself, the Skyraiders were [[Leozack]], [[Hellbat]], [[Hooligan (G2)|Hooligan]], and [[Gaihawk]].
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===And all the rest===
[[Image:MTMTEGenerics-OilField.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Aw, not "[[When Continents Collide]]" again...]]
In the Generation 1 cartoon there were large numbers of [[generic]], unnamed Seekers in addition to the named characters. They came in a wide variety of colors, from extra duplicates of Starscream or one of the other named guys, to original and distinct looks all their own. They seem to have formed the bulk of the Decepticon forces on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], as well as among [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s initial troops on [[Earth]]. They gradually became less common, perhaps as a result of casualties... or the cartoon's production team becoming more careful, or more-likely having more "actual" Decepticons to work with as the toy line expanded. (Extra [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] units and alternate color cassettes were also used along with these Seekers, early on, to fill out the comparatively thin Decepticon ranks.)

These unsung Seekers would be recognized years later in ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' toy form as the [[Air Warrior]]s (all using the common lavender/white color scheme). Soon afterward, the [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] ''Generation One'' comic series introduced an army of similarly-colored Seeker drones.

[[Image:AirWarriors MTMtE.jpg|right|200px|thumb|You talking to me? Or him? Or the other one?]]

Around the same time, another background Seeker was also given a new life through toys and Dreamwave comics: [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. This yellow-orange Seeker was a nameless background character in the first episode of the ''Transformers'' cartoon, until [[e-Hobby]] turned him into an [[exclusive]] toy (available with an [[Autobot]] also based on a [[Hauler|first-episode cameo]]). Now [[Hasbro]] [[Sunstorm (disambiguation)|can't get enough of him]]. Another generic Seeker was given attention: [[Acid Storm]]. Like Sunstorm before him, he was based on one of the background Seekers from the original cartoon, in this case the episode "Divide and Conquer" (see below).
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Unnamed Seekers with their own distinct color schemes appear in the following episodes as noted below:

[[Image:Sunstorm Cartoon.jpg|250px|thumb|One for all, and all for one. Sunstorm and co. attack.]]
* "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]"
:In the "return to [[Iacon]]" scene on Cybertron, five to seven Seekers appear (wide shots depict a group of five, but the close-ups give us seven distinct color schemes.) The first three are (as far as colors are concerned) Skywarp, Starscream (with a deeper voice), and Thundercracker. In a following shot, we see a lavender Seeker with a flamethrower pack, a medium-blue Seeker with white trim, holding his arm gun like a rifle, a yellow/orange Seeker who would become Sunstorm... and lurking in the back, a very dark-blue Seeker with white trim barely visible, but there if you look.

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[[Image:MmteSeekers2.gif|250px|thumb|Lots of generic Seekers from this one.]]
* "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2]]" and "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3|Part 3]]"
:The mother lode of unnamed Seekers. Especially if you like variations of blue and lavender. Crowds of them appear at the start of the final battle. At least six different Seekers of various shades and decos of blue and at least or four of various shades and decos of lavender (two with black tail fins in jet mode, two with white). Also, a blue variant (seen in the picture above) missing his wings and shoulder vents appears in "Part 3". (The infamous "Lady in Purple" a piece of well known [[fanon]], for possibly being female due to weak line strength in the art also appears here)

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[[Image:DivideandCon.gif|300px|thumb|Divide and Conquer Seekers]]
* "[[Divide and Conquer]]"
: Avert your eyes! One deep blue, one eye-burning bright green, and one garishly bright yellow. This trio is often referred to by fans as "the [[Rainmakers]]" because they started an [[acid rain]] shower to irritate a group of [[Autobot|Autobots]]. The green jet in this grouping was made into the ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' [[Acid Storm]] character, whose name was initially supposed to be "Rainmaker," then "Acid Rain."

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[[Image:UltimateDoom.gif|300px|thumb|Ultimate Doom Seekers]]
* "[[The Ultimate Doom, Part 3]]"
: Two blue variants and one really nice looking pine-green Seeker appear as part of Shockwave's forces trying to prevent the rescue of [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].

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* "[[Five Faces of Darkness]]"
: One all-gray Seeker, one with [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]]'s coloration, and one with [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]'s. There's also an interesting Conehead variant. (All of which appear in the main image above.)

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[[Image:NotDirge.gif|200px|thumb|Dark Awakening Seeker]]
* "[[The Transformers: The Movie]]" & "[[Dark Awakening]]"
: One season 1-style [[:Image:DirgeseekerTFMovie.jpg|Seeker]] with Dirge's colors appears in jet mode in the attack on Autobot City in the movie, and next to the actual Dirge in the episode.

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* Puffy stickers
: A sheet of Transformer puffy stickers featured a rare generic with a Starscream-based color scheme. He is pictured above as well.

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[[Image:Returntocybertron-seeker.jpg|200px|thumb|Return to Cybertron Seeker.]]
* "[[Return to Cybertron]]"
: This relatively obscure [[Sticker Adventures]] tale gives us a brief glimpse of a Seeker with a Thundercracker/Skywarp mix; blue body, purple tailfins and wing stripes. You can't tell much more about him, given that he is A: partially obscured and B: exploding.

==UK Generation 2 comic==
An unnamed seeker with a light blue body with white face, light red helmet and thighs, and yellow cockpit cover was hanging around when Megatron boarded the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]. {{storylink|War Without End (issue)|War Without End}}

==Unicron Trilogy Seekers==
According to one minor source in ''[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'', when any Transformer converts to a jet, he is called a "seeker<ref>''[[Transformers Armada: The Awakening]]'' DK Readers book.</ref>. But the closest specific characters to the Generation 1 Seekers are this universe's own [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]]/[[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]]/[[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]] trio. All three even used the same toy mold in their first release, although Skywarp was heavily [[Retool|retooled]] from the others (including getting an entirely new-mold [[Mini-Con]] partner). While new Decepticon-allied jet characters named [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]] and [[Ramjet (Armada)|Ramjet]] were released in ''Armada'', they each had their own unique molds. However, whereas Ramjet was simply the Mini-Con partner of [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]], Thrust was a [[bulk]] who even had a VTOL engine in jet mode, a conehead and vertically-oriented wings in robot mode. Although Thrust's original toy was green, redecos looked a bit more like his G1 incarnation.

Though only Starscream appeared in the follow-up franchise, ''[[Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'', several Seekers appeared in the final portion of the Unicron Trilogy, ''[[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]''. Starscream was back in a form heavily inspired by ''[[The War Within]]'' Starscream design (itself based on the "tetrajet" (see below)), while Thundercracker received a completely different body. A Skywarp was also released as a redeco of Thundercracker.

Further, the ''[[Legends Class|Legends of Cybertron]]'' Starscream toy, a tiny, simplified version of his main toy, was redecoed three more times: Skywarp as a giveaway at [[ComicCon 2005]], [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] as a giveaway at [[BotCon 2005]], and [[Sunstorm (LOC)|Sunstorm]] as part of the last wave of the LOC line at retail.

==Live-action movie franchise Seekers==

In the letters page for [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|Titan's tie-in comic]], the movie versions of [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]], and [[Ramjet (Movie)|Ramjet]] were first referred to as Seekers—by Starscream himself, no less. [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] was noticeably absent from Starscream's list, despite also being a jet and Thundercracker also being the name/body for a line of drones. This left it unclear what a Seeker ''is''. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|#9's Star Screams}}

The term was used twice in IDW movie comics, meaning different things—[[Seeker (Movie)|Starscream's crack unit]], and [[Seeker (ROTF)|ancient spacefaring Transformers]].

In the [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|movie sequel]], Jetfire describes himself as a Seeker. One of the early categories of Transformers, they were created to seek out stars which could be harvested for energon. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

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==Shattered Glass==
The term is taken to refer to [[Seeker (Shattered Glass)|a group of evil Autobots with car alternate modes who share the same color of black]].

==Alternate terms==
The most obvious alternate name for these Transformers—and the one generally used by pack-in [[cross-sell]] catalogs—is '''[[Decepticon Planes]]'''. While usually clear enough from context, this term has the weakness that there are many Decepticon planes who are not "Seekers". Also, the term is rarely, if ever, used outside of toy-specific contexts.

[[Image:Tetrajet seekers.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Did you ever wonder why we had to run for shelter...]]
The same Transformers are also sometimes referred to as '''tetrajets''', which makes reference to their Cybertronian forms as seen in the cartoon episode "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]" and a handful of other episodes set on Cybertron. In these forms, their vehicular modes are shaped somewhat like [[wikipedia:tetrahedron|tetrahedra]], or "triangular pyramids" (that is, a pyramid with a triangular base).

For a time, the term '''Skyraider''' saw increasing popularity. This term originated from European ''[[Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]'' marketing. When Starscream and Ramjet were released in this line, their packaging referred to them as Skyraiders. The UK ''Generation 2'' comic also featured some character profiles (much like the old [[Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)|''Transformers Universe'']] comics), and those profiles for Starscream and Ramjet used the word as well. It is a relatively small leap to extend usage to all similarly-built Decepticons. The push to use "Skyraider" was largely founded on the idea of using an official term instead of one that was, seemingly, coined and used only by fans. When [[Simon Furman]] made use of "Seeker" in ''The War Within'', however, this primary motivation was lost. "Skyraider" was used once again to describe the Starscream-like jet warriors in the [[BotCon 2009]] set "[[Wings of Honor]]," and [[Skyquake (G1)|Skyquake]] was indicated as the body-type's developer.

The first UK cross-sell catalog referred to the group as '''strike planes'''.<ref>[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-image/toysheets/g1/uksheet01/1.jpg/image.html Catalogue image] at Transformers @ The Moon</ref>

In Japan, they received the subgroup designation of '''Jetrons'''.

==Origin of term "Seeker"==
Although the most well-known name for these Decepticons, the wide use of the term "Seeker" is still somewhat mysterious.

[[Image:Seekers ad text.jpg|left|197px|thumb|From the 1984 J.C. Penney wishbook. [[:Image:Seekers ad.jpg|See the full page here.]]]]
The only known, documented use of the term is from the 1984 J.C. Penney holiday catalog (sometimes called a "wishbook"). On the page which shows the Christmas season's available Transformers, the following entry is found: ''"Decepticon Silver Plane. Airplane with sensational F-15 styling scours the countryside searching for Autobots. When they're found, the Seekers set out to destroy them. Transforms to an exciting robot with hi-tech weapons and Decepticon logo."'' A photo of Starscream and Thundercracker is displayed.

Also on the same page in an ad for [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], he's said to send out messages to the Seekers and other Decepticons.

It has been rumored, but not demonstrated, that the term "Seeker" was used in some other early promotional materials. If so, then the term must have been handed down by [[Hasbro]] at some point. It hardly seems possible that the term could have been invented by a lowly copywriter at J.C. Penney who also just happened to decide to capitalize it. Still, though, if this catalog is the only primary source in which the term appears, it seems strange that it could have inspired the entire fandom to use the term. "Seeker" was in wide use among internet Transfans even in the early 1990s, when the fandom was just getting off its feet. Did somebody in the days of the Transformers email list have a memory of the word from when they saw this catalog at age 10 and start the trend? It is probably impossible to know at this point.

It is sometimes erroneously claimed that "Seeker" is derived from a line of dialog in the first episode of the G1 cartoon, in which these jets are referred to as "hunter-seekers". This line does not exist.

The term "[[Hunter-Seeker Skyship|hunter-seekers]]" is used in issue 17 of the US comic, "[[The Smelting Pool!]]". However, the Decepticons it is applied to are shown only in their flight modes, which look nothing like the "Seekers" that we are familiar with. In fact, the Conehead Seekers make their first appearance in this same issue, and their Cybertronian flight modes appear very similar to their [[Earth]] jet forms (if not completely identical), and completely ''different'' from the craft which are referred to as hunter-seekers. The only real connection between the hunter-seekers we were shown and the "Seekers" is that there's more than one of them and they fly.

==Toys==
{{note|Because of the bodytype-sharing nature of the Seekers, this section includes only molds that have been decorated as two or more Seeker characters, omitting a large number of molds unique to a single character.}}
===Generation 1===
[[Image:Redeco.jpg|right|250px|thumb|The original Seekers.]]
* '''[[Decepticon Planes]]''' (1984)
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:* [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]
* [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]
* [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]
}}

* '''Decepticon Planes''' (1985)
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:* [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]]
* [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]
* [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]
}}

:The original Seeker mold was the [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes#F-15 Eagle|F-15]] ''[[Diaclone]]'' design, noted for its detailed jet mode, extremely limited robot-mode articulation, and the need to remove/add many parts during transformation.

:The mold was initially decorated as Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker. In 1985, Ramjet, Dirge and Thrust were created out of this mold, each with unique new wing toolings and color schemes. Redecorated [[retool]]s of the mold also appeared in ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' as Starscream and Ramjet, featuring new accessory [[soundbox]]es.

:This mold subsequently has been extensively reissued and redecorated; see [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream (G1) toys]] for a ridiculously long list of examples. The reissues have included the original six characters as well as the retro-Generation-1 character [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]].

* '''[[Action Master]]s''' (1990)

:This non-transforming action figure mold was sold as Starscream, and later redecorated as Thundercracker for the European market.

===''Machine Wars''===
[[Image:MWSkywarp.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Machine Wars'' Skywarp]]
* '''Basic''' (1997)

:A small [[Flipchanger|flipchanger]] mold, originally intended for ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'', was issued as Thundercracker and Skywarp.

===''Armada''===
* '''Max-Con''' (2002)

:An all-new mold sold at the $20 price point was originally issued as ''Armada'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], redecorated as ''Armada'' [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]], and retooled as ''Armada'' [[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]]. The retooled version was later issued as the new character [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] in the first ''Universe'' toy line.

===''Smallest Transforming Transformers''===
[[Image:STFStarscream toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Smallest Transforming Transformers'' Starscream]]
:The ''Smallest'' line, issued in Japan in 2003, featured a reduced-scale version of the original Generation 1 Seeker mold.

:It was issued as Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker, and retooled as Thrust.

===''Robot Masters''===
:A new Seeker mold was created for Japan's ''[[Robot Masters]]'' subline. It is based on the original toy, but redesigned at a smaller size and with enhanced articulation.

:It was issued as Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker.

===''Titanium''===
[[Image:TitaniumHeroesWWThundercracker.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Titanium'' Thundercracker]]
:A new Seeker mold created for the ''[[Titanium Series]]'' subline features a Cybertronian-based alternate mode, derived from the characters' appearance in ''[[The War Within]]'' (itself loosely based on the original pyramid jets seen in "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]".) This mold has been issued as Thundercracker, Starscream, Skywarp (a convention exclusive) and Sunstorm.

===''Cybertron''===
* '''Voyager''' (2006)

:This mold, based on G1 Starscream's ''[[War Within]]'' appearance, was issued as ''Armada'' Starscream, and later redecorated as Generation 1 Dirge.

* '''Deluxe''' (2006)
: Though Thundercracker wasn't the same mold as Starscream in this series, his deluxe toy was redecoed as Skywarp.

* '''Legends of Cybertron''' (2006)

:A tiny version of the previous mold, issued as ''Armada'' Starscream, and redecorated as ''Universe'' [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]], ''Armada'' [[Skywarp (Armada)#LOC|Skywarp]] and [[Sunstorm (LOC)|Sunstorm]], and Generation 1 [[Ramjet (G1)#Universe_.282008.29|Ramjet]] and [[Thrust (G1)#Universe_.282008.29|Thrust]]

===''Classics''===
[[Image:Henkei Thundercracker toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Thundercracker]]
* '''Deluxe''' (2006)

:An all-new mold at the $10 price point, the ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' Seeker design retains the F-15 alternate mode, but with a new transformation scheme and modern articulation.

:Like the original, this mold has been redecorated numerous times. In addition to the original six Seekers (some of which were BotCon-exclusive retools), it has also been issued as the character [[Acid Storm]]. The mold was sold in Japan under the ''Henkei! Henkei!'' line.

===''Masterpiece''===
:A larger-scaled, highly complex mold. Issued as Starscream in 2005, with later redecos as Skywarp and Thundercracker.

===Movie (2007)===
* '''Voyager'''

[[Image:Movie Voyager Starscream toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|''2007 Live Action Movie'' Starscream]]
:The mold used for the the [[Transformers (2007)|''Transformers'' live-action movie]] [[Voyager]] class [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] figure was remolded and repainted into [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] (as well as a G1 recolor of Starscream.) For the ''[[Revenge of the Fallen]]'' line of toys, the mold will be recolored again as [[Skywarp (ROTF)|Skywarp]] and [[Ramjet (Movie)|Ramjet]] respectively.

* '''Fast Action Battler'''

:The [[Fast Action Battler]] version of Starscream was recolored into Ramjet in 2007.
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===''Animated''===
* '''Voyager'''

[[Image:Animated Skywarp Voyager.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Animated'' Skywarp]]
:The [[Voyager]] class [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] from [[Transformers Animated|Animated]] has been recolored into two of his [[Starscream clone|clones]] already, [[Skywarp (Animated)|Skywarp]] and [[Sunstorm (Animated)|Sunstorm]] with a release of [[Thundercracker (Animated)|Thundercracker]] on the way.

* '''Activator'''

: Starscream's [[Activator]] mold, a smaller, auto-transforming design based on the larger toy, was recolored into [[Thundercracker (Animated)|Thundercracker]] and [[Dirge (Animated)|Dirge]], also based on the clones from the cartoon.

==Merchandise==
[[Image:HoC 3H Seeker Set.jpg|right|250px|thumb|[[Starscream (G1)|I]] am [[Thundercracker (G1)|he]] as [[Skywarp (G1)|you]] are he as you are me and [[Air Warrior|we]] are all together.]]
===''Super Collection Figure''===
:A small, PVC plastic figure based on the Seekers' animation model design. It was imported from Takara in the 2002 ''Heroes of Cybertron'' line.

:It was issued as Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Sunstorm, and as a three-pack of generic light purple [[Air Warrior|Air Warriors]]. It was retooled and redecorated as Dirge and Ramjet.

===Titanium Series===
[[Image:TitaniumRM Starscream.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Stop, in the name of love...]]

: A small, non-transforming die-cast metal figurine, based upon the Generation 1 cartoon appearance of the Seekers was available decoed as either Starscream or Thundercracker.
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===''Myclone''===
[[Image:MyCloneRamjet.jpg|right|100px|thumb|''Myclone'' Ramjet]]
:A super-adorable figurine mold of Starscream was issued for this line, and redecorated as the [[Chase figure|chase figure]] Thundercracker. A Coneheads mold was also available, issued as Ramjet and chase figure Dirge, and retooled as Thrust.
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===''Robot Heroes''===
:Another super-adorable figurine of Starscream, this time launching himself into the air. Redecorated as Skywarp and Thundercracker. A Thrust mold from the same line has yet to be redecorated.
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==References==
<references />

[[Category:Decepticon subgroups]]
[[Category:Fandom]]
[[Category:Generation 1]]
[[Category:Seekers| Seeker (G1)]]
[[Category:Mass-produced Transformers]]

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Jetfire (Movie)

2009-06-29T12:37:25Z

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:''Jetfire is a [[Decepticon]] and [[Autobot]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:ROFT Jetfire Bay clip.jpg|thumb|350px|Rust in my aft you say!?]]

'''Jetfire'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s not what he used to be. His body went south years back. His bunny is dead on the wheel. He's got rust in places he didn't even know he had. Basically, Jetfire's old! An ancient Decepticon [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]], Jetfire was around long before the war broke out, and unlike many, came to see his "comrades" for what they were. This caused him to defect to the Autobots, something virtually unheard of. He's a fine asset, powerful and possessing the ability to teleport across great distances. This is slightly offset by the fact he's so old, his processor gave up the ghost millennia ago. These days he has a hard enough time remembering his name. It makes him a bit crotchety and also leaves him with the nagging feeling he's forgotten something important.

{{quote|My [[Jetfire's father|father]] was the wheel! The ''first'' wheel! And do you know what he transformed into? ''Nothing!'' But he did so ''with honor! Dignity!''|Jetfire suffers the seven signs of aging|[[Revenge of the Fallen]]}}

==Fiction==
===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
[[Image:Defiance4_Jetfire.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Hopefully I won't end up on some [[earth|godforsaken planet]] and be infested with [[Maximal|disgusting little critters.]]]]
In the distant past, the [[All Spark (Movie)|All Spark]] Cube created [[Thirteen original Transformers|a race]] of powerful, trans-dimensional beings as the first inhabitants of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. The Cube gave these beings mighty powers, as well as terraforming their world, but it was not limitless, and gradually became depleted. The first beings learned that the All Spark's power could be replenished by harvesting the energy of stars, but they were unable to locate new stars to suit their purposes, despite their amazing ability to travel between dimensions. Once again, the Cube came to the rescue, creating a race of workers, who had the ability to change their shape.

Jetfire was among the very first of these new beings, a "[[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]]" with the ability to travel across the vastness of space in search of new suns. Once located, he would lead others and his masters back to it so a [[Solar harvester|harvester]] could be constructed to drain the energy of these stars, thus replenishing the All Spark. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 4}} It is assumed that at some point during the civil war on Cybertron, he sided with [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], the new protege of Jetfire's only surviving ancient master, [[The Fallen]].
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===''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Mark Ryan]] (English), [[Engelbert von Nordhausen]] (German)

{{spoiler|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|7/24/09}}

For many years, a dormant Jetfire had hidden in his alternate mode at the [[wikipedia:Smithsonian Institution|Smithsonian]] [[wikipedia:National Air and Space Museum|National Air and Space Museum]], until [[Seymour Simmons]], [[Sam Witwicky]], [[Mikaela Banes]], [[Leo Spitz]] and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] broke in with a small fragment of the [[All Spark]]. The surge of energy awoke him, and the cantankerous old robot wandered outside, pausing only to bang his head on the door. Confused and disoriented, only the efforts of the [[human]]s and ex-Decepticon brought his senses back. Jetfire revealed that during the war he had joined the Autobots and upon hearing the name of the Fallen, he teleported the entire group (including [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] and [[Skids (ROTF)|the]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|twins]]) to [[Egypt]], where he told them the story of the [[Dynasty of Primes]] and The Fallen, Cybertron's first contact with Earth and the [[Solar harvester|Solar Harvester]], a life-giving device that could destroy the [[Sun]]. He revealed that only a Prime could kill the Fallen, and was distraught to hear of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime's]] death. After Sam hit upon the idea of using the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to revive Optimus, Jetfire gave him the only clue to find the [[Tomb of the Primes]].

During the final battle around the [[Pyramid|Great Pyramid of Giza]] (which contained the Solar Harvester), Jetfire arrived and attempted to "stick" the landing, which didn't go quite as he planned. He immediately decided to "show how they brought the pain in my day", slicing [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] in half, and crushing his upper torso. He was critically wounded by a surprise attack from [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] and although he managed to kill the Decepticon, the injury was fatal. As he lay dying, Jetfire, who felt that during his entire life he'd never done a thing worth doing, he persuaded the resurrected Optimus Prime to take his parts and "discover a power like you've never known". Ripping out his own [[spark]] core, Jetfire died. With help from [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and [[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]], Jetfire's remains were fused with Optimus, who became more powerful than ever.

Now equipped with Jetfire's powerful weapons engines, Optimus broke through a blockade of debris The Fallen had telekinetically erected around the Pyramid and destroyed the Solar Harvester before it could be used against the Earth's Sun. After Optimus defeated Megatron and destroyed The Fallen, he quickly detached Jetfire's parts. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}
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==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:ROTF Jetfire 2009 Legends.JPG|right|250px|thumb|It's not the years, honey, it's the mileage.]]
*'''Jetfire''' (Legends, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''EZ-05'''

:Legends class ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' Jetfire transforms from a into a tiny [[Wikipedia: SR-71 Blackbird|SR-71 Blackbird]] spy plane to a sort of hunchback robot. In a bit of character design accuracy, his left arm has a cane.

:The upper fuselage of the plane mode has a thin rectangular peg to slot into the back of Legends class Optimus Prime to recreate the powered up mode at the end of the movie.
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====Leader Class toys====
[[Image:Jetfire ROTF leader toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|"You know, I've personally flown over 194 missions, and I was shot down in every one. Come to think of it, I've never landed a plane in my life."]]
*'''Jetfire''' (Leader, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-13'''
**''Accessories:'' Front landing gear/walking stick, rotary cannon missile launcher, projectile

:Jetfire features electronic lights and sounds. And by sounds, we mean he talks like a Yorkshireman. Seriously.
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====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:Jetfire ROTF FAB toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|NOBODY MOVE...I dropped me cane...]]
*'''Photon Missile Jetfire''' (Fast Action Battler, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' "Photon Missile" projectile

: [[Fast Action Battler]] Jetfire is a simplified, roughly Deluxe-sized toy of Jetfire. In vehicle mode, he transforms into a sort of cute, super-deformed SR-71 Blackbird jet. As with most ''Transformers'' toy jets, he has a fair bit of undercarriage junk from his robot mode, though not to the extent of the Leader class toy. In robot mode he has a reasonably accurate depiction of Jetfire's design, though his right arm ends in a spring-loaded projectile launcher shaped like a rotary cannon.
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==Notes==
* Jetfire's ancient cybertronian vehicle mode as seen in [[IDW Publishing]]'s "[[Defiance issue 4]]" bears more than a passing similarity with the starship ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'' from ''[[Beast Wars]]''.
* Jetfire is one of the few movie Transformers to mention having [[Relatives|a family]]; in fact, he claims his father was [[Scrounge|''the'' wheel]].
* In the film, Jetfire seemed to say that the reason he was extremely "elderly" was that he has gone for too long without an adequate supply of energon. Well, the fact that he was one of the first Transformers ever to live probably contributes a little; but at least the low energon explains why he is 'slowly falling apart and dying' as opposed to other 'old' bots like [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]].
* According to him (and demonstrated as well), he can access a [[Space Bridge]] to transport himself and others across vast distances in mere moments. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}
*While the Leader Class toy is advertised as being able to combine with [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] they do not combine in the movie itself, per se. Jetfire merely kills himself so that Optimus Prime can ''wear'' the parts of his corpse as extra armor and weaponry. That's right, he's [[kibble]].
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Talk:Megatron (Movie)

2009-06-29T11:21:27Z

137.195.68.169: /* Encased in ice at the bottom of the ocean? */

== Human Name jokes ==

We might as well make the article play on his human-given names.

== Megatron's Cybertronian form ==

Has anyone else noticed that Megatron's vehicle form bares more than a passing resemblance to the ''Swordfish'', the personal ship flown by Spike Spiegel in ''Cowboy BeBop''? [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 02:39, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

::Not really, no. --[[User:EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 12:07, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

:::The only difference is it's A. silver, and B. has three guns instead of one.

:I agree, it looks very similar. The wings in particular. I mean, it doesn't exactly look like THE Swordfish, but it looks like a 'mono-racer' from Bebop at least.

::::It looks more like the Zone of the Enders version of the Vic Viper than the Swordfish, at least to me it does.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 03:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

:I actually found it looked like [[Megatron (RID)|the other megatrons`]] jet mode.--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 01:12, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
I think I see it. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 01:18, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

== Earth Mode ==

According to Wikipedia and IGN, Megatron turns into a stealth bomber. [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 22:36, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
: Until either one is verified by anything official, we're not including that "info". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:38, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
::Reading the IGN article, they said they got this from playing an early version of the Movie's game. [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 01:52, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Still makes it somewhere between unconfirmed second-hand report and leaked info. With this sort of thing patience is best. IF it is true we'll all no for sure soon enough and it can go up then.n--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 02:51, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Seibertron reported recently that some of the production staff hinted at Megatron not getting an Earth form after all, at least in this movie. I'd say wait until the movie comes out, because even if they make a toy it's still not confirmed. [[User:King Starscream]] 13:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::From the book media I've perused, Megatron stays silvery and alieny the entire course of it all. There's other things I saw, but I shan't go into them since all these books come out tomorrow and you can spoil yourself then. [[User:Terrocon Blot]]
::::::Which book? Sounds interesting. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 03:30, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::All the kids books that come out tomorrow. The I can read, storybook, junior novels, etc. Heck, a few of the books have Megatron and Brawl standing side by side. He ain't Brawl. All these books come out tomorrow, and will be on display in your local book stores. (Seriously, this is screwed up. I can't seem to edit pages when I'm logged in.) [[User:Terrocon Blot]]
::::::::Looking at game footage, either the Stealth-Bomber Megs was an early idea that was discarded, or he gets an Earth mode later in the game. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 19:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

==Sibling status==
I strongly question the inclusion of he and Optimus being brothers in the main bio, unless that is backed up by the movie itself, or some future toy bio, or other source stronger than books based on earlier drafts of the script. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:23, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
: If the movie does not contradict it, surely it is still true. :)
: FOr what it's worth- the prequel comics had this vibe goigng too, the ADF novelization mentions brushes by it,t he junior novelization says it explicitly... and I think there's at least 1 more source. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:30, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
: The DS game says so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:34, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
::As does the console version. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:47, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Okay, yeah. The game counts a stonger source. Although if it's not mentioned in the movie itself, I think it's going to require a footnote notation citing the places it is. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:55, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
::::The Decepticon DS version also says it flat out.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::What we have now is correct, and there is no need to change anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:48, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::For the record to future peoples, Optimus does call Megatron his bro in the movie.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 03:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

==*More* Misassemblies==

Yeah. I just got Super Megs and, uh, his hands are flipped. Or rather, I guess it's his thumbs and pinkies. Look at the box and compare. This should probably be noted... [[User:71.61.152.122|71.61.152.122]] 07:53, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:Geeeeez, you're right. Is there anything assembled ''right'' on this guy?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 04:20, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
::I'm comparing photos at Seibertron.com, and um...I'm not seeing it.
:::It's most noticable in the picture of his macehand, but you can see it in the big one too. Don't look at 'pics' of the box, look at it with your own two eyes. >.> [[User:71.60.159.181|71.60.159.181]] 09:49, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

== Galvatron ==

I strongly belive that the allspark will resurect megatron in a future sequel and possibly reformat him into galvatron. It'll probebly bring him back to life at least
:I don't deny that I think the AllSpark will play a part in Megs's revival, but I highly doubt (and strongly hope) that he won't become Galvatron.

== Marinas Trench ==

I realize Keller said the Decepticons were dropped into the deepest section of ocean in the world, but he calls it specifically something other than the Marinas Trench. To that end, using "Marinas Trench" doesn't seem exactly right to me. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to quite decipher what he DID call it. Was anybody else? And what does other media say about the location? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 15:19, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I concur that the trench name from the film should be used here instead of the Marianas. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:48, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
:Keller says "Laurentian Trench," which is a real ocean feature but by no means its deepest. He also says it's the deepest spot on the ocean at over 7 miles deep, which is correct for the Marianas. So, a fact-finding flub. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 18:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

::How dare the Secretary of Defense not be completely up to speed on the name of the deepest part of the ocean. (seriously, it's entirely possible that Keller had no idea what hte fuck he was talking about.) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 18:27, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Either that, or Michael bay didn't do his homework.--[[User:Dynamus Prime|Dynamus Prime]] 16:13, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Or Maybe in their Dimension, it IS the deepest? [[User:Shadow Mask Prime|Shadow Mask Prime]] 11:59, 24 May 2009 (EDT)

=="The Head Wars"==

the one present right now is a little blurry, wouldn't that one be better? [http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/tfbay5.jpg]--[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 18:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
: No, because that one doesn't have the right head. We replaced the one you suggested with the current version. (Blurry? It's a sized-down version of a gigantic-ass render straight from Dreamworks.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:59, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
::Um, yes it does. The Current one has the wrong head. Screencap comparison coming momentarily. Please stand by. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Inferno'sQueen]] 19:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::There is no more-current render to move to. There is a much older, outdated one that ''somebody'' keeps reverting to, but the one we currently use is practically the one used in the movie, if not the very same. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:13, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Not the same. The top of the head in the final version is different. [[:Image:MegHeads.jpg|Here. ''Now'' tell me I'm wrong.]][[User:Inferno'sQueen|Inferno'sQueen]] 20:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

:The head we currently have is way way way way way way closer than the alternative. Find us a full-body render that's a better alternative, and we'll switch them out, but there is none. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::[http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/tfbay5.jpg GUIGUI's] ''is'' the accurate head. It's just got blue eyes. But considering the eyes of some movie images on the wiki aren't even glowing ''at all'' I don't think that should be an issue.
:::Don't answer me with another block. ''Please.'' I'm just trying to help the wiki. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Mr. Q]] 16:31, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:::That is so totally not the final Megatron. This render showed up months before the one we're currently using, and they hadn't even finished texturing the model. Please drop the issue. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, now I'm confused. Is the body wrong on [http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/tfbay5.jpg that one] or something? [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Mr. Q]] 17:22, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:I think it's just shaded wrong(no shadows), and his torso is not completely "filled" with metal.-the preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]]
::That doesn't seem like a good excuse. And please sign your posts. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Mr. Q]] 15:32, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I looked at the image again, and it does look a bit odd. But not very much. I suggest a poll/survey of the admins to decide who thinks it should be Meg's main pic, as the torso bit is the only problem. It won't be visible in thumbnail format anyhow. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 19:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::::The Megatron model has two heads, a standard head and the battle head. The final promotional render with all the completed surface detail, which we are using, uses the standard head. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Admins, please put "Yes" after your name if you think the current image should be changed to [http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/tfbay5.jpg this one], or "No" if you think it should stay as-is.[[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 19:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

The current poll:

[[User:ItsWalky]]: He hasn't officially voted yet, but it seems as though his answer will be '''"No."'''

[[User:Steve-o]]:Insert vote here

[[User:Suki Brits]]:I think she says '''"No,"''' too.

[[User:Chris McFeely]]:Insert vote here

:If I missed an admin, please notify them and add them here. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 19:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::you know, the admins aren't the only ones who have a say in this. And given that the model in the current image is almost if not completely identical to the one used in the movie it should be left as is. IMO, your argument is kinda like saying we need a new main image for [[Optimus Primal]] because it has a mouth doesn't have a full faceplate like the final model, even though the final model had both "mouth" and "faceplate" versions. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 19:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, we can't poll ''everyone''. I'm relatively new, lucky enough to have found the admins listed somewhere. I wouldn't know who else to ask. And That Primal thing does not make sense. I ''know'' he had a mouth ''and'' a [[mouthplate]]. I'm saying the current image has the '''''wrong head''''', and it should be fixed. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 20:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::::This is bordering on farce.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:07, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Agreed. If Inferno's Queen does not immediately drop the matter, I will get rid of her for refusing to stop wasting all of our time and polluting the Recent changes page with this retarded personal gripe. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:10, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

:::::<big>'''I'''</big>

:::::<big>'''AM'''</big>

:::::<big>'''A'''</big>

:::::<big>'''GUY!'''</big> [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 20:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

:Inferno's Queen, it's like I said on the image's talk page: we don't have a full body shot of Megatron's final design, so we're going with the most accurate one. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 20:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

After the poll is completed, this will end. Deal?[[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 20:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:...you don't get to dictate policy to admins.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::That's not quite true. If she keeps this up, she'll likely dictate a permaban on herself :p --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:21, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Fine already! I'll leave the issue alone if you stop calling me a girl!
:::<big>'''''I AM A GUY!!!'''''</big> [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 12:10, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, dude, is this all you've got to offer?! This is such an incredibly minor issue that it's nowhere worth the amount of discussion that has already gone on about it. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

This is mind-blowingly petty. I don't feel the need to express any opinion on the matter, it's pretty damn clear what the consensus is. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 04:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

== video game info ==

should we edit it to have more info on megatron in the game?
:...Deathy? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

==Weapon names==
The article currently contains the current text in its movie summary: "Megatron declared that if Prime wished to defend them, he should die with them, forming his fusion cannon. Before he could fire, the Autobot leader drew his ion blaster and fired, hitting Megatron." Do we have any reason/justification for referring to those weapons so specifically as a fusion cannon and ion blaster? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 00:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:In the trivia section of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Prime]]'s article, it's called an ion blaster. As for the fusion cannon...-- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 01:15, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::Doesn't Leader Megatron's toy packaging say "Arms combine to form fusion cannon!" or something along those lines? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 01:26, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Answering my own question by looking up DVD's review, yes it does. And the product listing at Hasbro.com says: "Robot mode also features a launching rocket claw that becomes a chain whip, and arms that combine to create a fusion cannon!" --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 01:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

==Language==
According to the Circuit City voice featurette, the producers made up an alien language (or Hugo Weaving did, the wording is vague), and Weaving is shown speaking in it as Megatron. Did this make it into the final film? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 14:10, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

:There *is* a Cybertronian language spoken by several characters (Frenzy most notably, I guess, plus Starscream, and actually 'every' Decepticon during the call-up scene) but nobody really knows if it's just jibberish with a flanger on or something. That, and Megs 'never' speaks Cybertronian in the movie, so this makes it even stranger. The idea behind the Cybertronians speaking a different language isn't Weaving's, however, because that was in the leaked script that came out long before Weaving was cast. [[User:71.60.159.181|71.60.159.181]] 23:45, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

==Encased in ice at the bottom of the ocean?==
Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no ice at the bottom of the ocean. Ice is less dense than water so any particles cold enough to freeze float above those who aren't cold enough. (Contrary to normal laws of convection; ice is weird like that) so Megatron and the Decepticons wouldn't be icy at all. Just really cold and crushed under immense water pressure.

: Indeed, because water increases in volume when it freezes,t the freezing point of water ''decreases'' with pressure, i.e. it becomes harder to freeze water which is under pressure. This is the reason why liquid oceans are believed to exist under Europa's icy coating, for example. [[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 07:21, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

==Megu said ''what''?==
When Megu arrives in Mission City, he says two sentences. Just when he lands, he says something that I heard as "Let me play!" But what did he say after that? Because, the article says that Megu again declared his name when arriving in M City, but he didn't sound like that. Will someone clarify what exactly he said? StarShade 09:39, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

==Premium==
Does anyone know if the premium series leader Megatron has corrected the assembly errors?--[[User:Skyglide|Skyglide]] 19:53, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

==Screen Grabs==
Well since the trailer has been offically released, and Megatron has a few good clear shots in it, can we post a pic or two under ROTF? Mainly the one where he apparently comes out of the water, which appears to be the best looking shot. Just a sugestion.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 17:47, 2 May 2009 (EDT)

==Triple Changer in ROTF?==
Now, I'm terribly sorry I don't have more info than this, but I was at the mall w/ my GF and picked up a guide to ROTF. Most of the info seemed pretty modern and accurate (things like Jetfire being a seeker and such) and they said that upon his revival, Megatron had become a triple-changer, able to take both modes. I don't know the name of it although... nope, can't find it on Amazon. Can someone else comment on this matter? Has anything been shown to support this or has anyone else seen this guide? The store owner said it was just put out that day, so this may be new. IDK. --[[User:Rideonshootingstarxx|Rideonshootingstarxx]] 20:57, 7 June 2009 (EDT)
:This is correct. In the adaptation he assumes both alt-forms.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:18, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
::In the adaptations he never really "becomes" a triple-changer. At least they don't mention that he ever gains the ability. He just shown to be able to transform into three modes. I'm not sure if we are supposed to believe he always had the ability but didn't have an occasion to turn into a tank before or what. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:36, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Having bought the book now, I can confirm that it says Megatron's status as a triple-changer is the result of his revival, and that it is fairly rare amongst Cybertronians.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:19, 20 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Slight problem. In the novels and what not, he is distinctly described as retaining his jet mode. In the actual film, all scenes where he uses the jet, well, lack it [[User:Eire]]
::::Not really a problem. Adaptations have been mismatched before, and as long as ''one'' source calls him a a triple-changer, in those exact words, it's valid. We don't really need to reconcile the adaptations. That's not our job.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:39, 20 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::From what I remember in the movie you never get a clear look at his flight mode, just the blue glow of his afterburners in the distance. He definitely has a tank mode, but I couldn't tell whether his flight mode is just the tank with the jet engines turned on or a separate vehicle mode, or the tank with wings... Heck it could be a giant flying lunchbox for all I could see. [[User:(Undecided)|(Undecided)]] 17:03, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
::His flight mode is a flat square-ish thing - basically, the Voyager toy, but steel instead of green.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 18:04, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

== G1 homage, anyone? ==
His head has a helmet-like portion very similar to the helmet-like section of G1 Megatron's head. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 21:15, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
:Not really.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)

== Robot Mode flight ==

Is that a new ability? I don't seem to recall him being able to just fly around in the first movie, but it has been a while since I've seen it. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:28, 27 June 2009 (EDT)

: Do you mean when he lands on the skyscraper, or was there another instance? I figured that he was just continuing on the momentum when he popped out of flying tank mode. How do his jet engines configure in robot mode, maybe they helped? [[Special:Contributions/82.41.72.10|82.41.72.10]] 17:23, 27 June 2009 (EDT)
::I was going by memory of the movie. Of course Megatron and the other Decepticons swam up from the abyss. That is multi-ton metal robots swimming to the surface. That is almost flying. Then when they got to open air, I seem to remember them just flying away in robot-mode, but I can't say for certain without seeing it again. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:47, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
:::That's right, I'd forgotten about that. We should check whether his boosters were in some sort of "jetpack configuration" for that shot (like Starscream's thrusters), that would square it up. [[Special:Contributions/82.41.72.10|82.41.72.10]] 19:49, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
::He uses his jet-tank mode to fly in both instances (seemingly transforming just as he breaks the surface when underwater). I checked.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 19:58, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)

2009-06-29T10:55:59Z

137.195.68.169: /* Errors */

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'''''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen''''' is the first of two planned sequels to ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]''. It was released in North America on [[June 24]], 2009.

{{quote|Revenge is mine!|The Fallen, ''[[Revenge of the Fallen]]''}}

:''Japanese title:'' '''''Transformers: Revenge'''''
:''French title:'' '''''Transformers 2: La Revanche''''' (''Transformers 2: The Revenge'')
:''German title:'' '''''Transformers: Die Rache''''' (''Transformers: The Revenge'')
:''Polish title:'' '''''Transformers: Zemsta Upadłych''''' (''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'', except the word "Fallen" is a plural.)
:''Italian title:'' '''''Transformers 2: La Vendetta Del Caduto''''' (''Transformers 2: The Revenge Of The Fallen'')
:''Serbian title:'' '''''Transformers 2: Najveće govno ikada''''' (''Transformers 2: The Revenge Of The Fallen'')

==Main cast==
{{spoiler|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|July 24, 2009}}

{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] ([[Jess Harnell]])
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] ([[Robert Foxworth]])
*[[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] ([[Mark Ryan]])
*[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] ([[Grey DeLisle]])
*[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] ([[Tom Kenny]])
*[[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] ([[Reno Wilson]])
*[[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]] ([[André Sogliuzzo]])
*[[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]]
*[[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] ([[Tom Kenny]])

|c2=
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] ([[Hugo Weaving]])
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] ([[Charlie Adler]])
*[[The Fallen]] ([[Tony Todd]])
*[[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]]
*[[Alice]] ([[Isabel Lucas]])
*[[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]]
*[[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] ([[Tom Kenny]])
*[[Scalpel]] ([[John Di Crosta]])
*[[Reedman]] ([[Frank Welker]])
*[[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]
*[[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]]
*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] ([[Frank Welker]])
*A [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]] lookalike
*[[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]]s
**[[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] ([[Frank Welker]])
**[[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]] ([[Calvin Wimmer]])
**[[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]] ([[Kevin Michael Richardson]])
**[[Scavenger (ROTF)|Scavenger]]
**[[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]]
**[[Long Haul (ROTF)|Long Haul]]
**[[Scrapper (ROTF)|Scrapper]]
**[[Hightower (ROTF)|Hightower]]
**[[Overload (ROTF)|Overload]]
|c3=
*[[Sam Witwicky]] ([[Shia LaBeouf]])
*[[Mikaela Banes]] ([[Megan Fox]])
*[[William Lennox]] ([[Josh Duhamel]])
*[[Robert Epps]] ([[Tyrese Gibson]])
*[[Leo Spitz]] ([[Ramon Rodriguez]])
*[[Seymour Simmons]] ([[John Turturro]])
*[[Theodore Galloway]] ([[John Benjamin Hickey]])
*[[Judy Witwicky]] ([[Julie White]])
*[[Ron Witwicky]] ([[Kevin Dunn]])
*[[General Morshower]] ([[Glenn Morshower]])
*[[Professor Colan]] ([[Rainn Wilson]])
*[[Tova Simmons]] ([[Annie Korzen]])
*[[Fassbinder]] ([[Jonathon Trent]])
*[[Sharsky]] ([[Walker Howard]])
}}

==Technical details==
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==Short synopsis==
[[Image:ROTFteaserposter.jpg|right|250px|thumb|For dry, red eyes, the difference is clear: Clear Eyes.]]

The Autobots have found a home in "NEST", a secret military unit created to seek out and eliminate the remaining Decepticons. All is not well, however. Unbeknownst to them, Soundwave is in orbit, coordinating the Decepticon counterstrike. After Ravage steals the Allspark shard from NEST, a team of Constructicons and The Doctor journey to the bottom of the ocean and use it revive Megatron. The Decepticon leader journeys to the crashed Nemesis, rebukes Starscream, and meets with his master, The Fallen.

The Fallen explains that he had constructed a Solar Harvester on Earth, in violation of the Primes' code to never harm an inhabited planet. The Primes turned on him, banished and imprisoned him. However the Harvester still stands, and only one Prime remains. If Megatron destroys Optimus Prime, The Fallen will be freed to activate the Harvester, which will kill off the humans and provide the Decepticons with enough energon to raise an army. Megatron eagerly agrees, and returns to Earth with a vengeance.

It transpires that the location of the Harvester is hidden within Sam Witwicky, who absorbed the knowledge from another Allspark fragment. The Decepticons begin an all-out war across the Earth as they hunt down the human, and the Autobots and NEST are blamed for the ensuing carnage. Witwicky goes to ground, and must turn to unlikely allies in the race to find a solution. Ultimately, the last of the Primes defeats The Fallen, destroys the Harvester, and proves the Transformers' greatest power is found in their unexpectedly-ancient alliance with the humans.

==Full synopsis==
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==Quotes==


"Ding-a-ling, come out an' get yo' ice cream. Any bad robot out there better get ready for an ass-whoopin'."
:— '''Skids''' and '''Mudflap''' speaking their first line in the movie as the ice cream truck.

"Sam, fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing."
:— '''Optimus Prime'''

"Need parts. Kill ze little one!"
:— '''Scalpel''' instructs the Constructicons to kill one of their own, which they so happily oblige.

"Starscream, I'm home!"
:— '''Megatron'''. And the fangirls go wild!

"I know you’re pissed-I know you’re pissed, I tried to kill you, right? It’s totally understandable. I mean, if you tried to kill me, I’d be pissed, too."
:— '''Sam Witwicky''' tries to relate with '''Megatron'''.

"Is the fate of our race not worth one human life?" 
"You'd never stop at just ''one''. '''I'll take you all on!'''"
:— '''Megatron''' tries to justify killing Sam. '''Optimus Prime''' disapproves. Beatdown ensues.

"What planet am I on?" 
"Earth." 
"''Earth''? Terrible name for a planet. Might as well call it ''Dirt''. Planet Dirt."
:— '''Jetfire''' asks '''Simmons''' where he is, only to have negative thoughts.

"You know what my father was? [[Scrounge|A wheel]]! The first wheel! And you know what he transformed into? NOTHING! But he did so with honor! Dignity!"
:— '''Jetfire''' tells a story.

"Beginning. Middle. End. Facts. Details. Condense. Plot. Tell it."
:— '''Simmons''' demands more coherent exposition from Jetfire.

"Lemme show ya how we brought the pain in ''my'' day!!"
:—'''Jetfire''' enters the fray to show us young whippersnappers how it's ''really'' done.

"One man, alone, abandoned by the country he loves."
:— '''Agent Simmons''' being, well, Agent Simmons as he bravely charges off to lure the Decepticons away.

"GIVE ME YOUR FACE."
:—'''Optimus Prime''' warns The Fallen of his violent fetish.

"Not to call you a coward, master, but, sometimes, cowards do survive."
:— '''Starscream''' pitches his usual battle plan to an unusually receptive Megatron.

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==Production staff==
* Writers [[Roberto Orci]] and [[Alex Kurtzman]] recruited [[Ehren Kruger]] to help them write the screenplay. [[Michael Bay]] and producers [[Don Murphy]], [[Tom DeSanto]], and [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]] also returned.<ref>[http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6372 Transformers 2 Writers Confirmed]</ref>
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===Visual effects===
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===Locations department===
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==Prequel material==
===Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comics===
While the Decepticons were disgusted with the pro-Autobot propaganda of Bay's first documentary {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 13|#13's Star Screams}}, they're quite optimistic about the second film. [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] has taken a strong interest in it, going to the trouble of personally convincing [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] to be in the film {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 15|15's Star Screams}}.

The Decepticons promise this new documentary will show a glorious Decepticon victory {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 10|#10's Star Screams}} - whether it's in the script or not. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 18|#18's Star Screams}}

Shockingly, even ''they'' are under a non-disclosure agreement regarding the script; Starscream fearfully refers to a greater power keeping him quiet. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 22|#22's Star Screams}} Talking about it could even undermine the Decepticon war effort! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|#23's Star Screams}}

In the same week the film came out, the Decepticons suddenly became unhappy with it and the detente period ended. Bay, Kurtzman, and Orci are once again marked for extermination for their propaganda films. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.1|#1's Law and Disorder}}

===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
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==Adaptations==
:''Main article:'' [[Revenge of the Fallen Movie Adaptation]]
{{main|Revenge of the Fallen (novel)}}
'''Children's adaptations'''
{{main|Revenge of the Fallen: The Junior Novel}}
{{main|The Last Prime}}
{{main|Operation Autobot}}
{{main|When Robots Attack!}}
{{main|I Am Optimus Prime (ROTF)}}
{{main|Rise of the Decepticons}}

==Sequels==
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==Soundtrack==
:''Main article:'' [[Revenge of the Fallen: The Soundtrack]]

==Score==
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:''Main article:'' [[Revenge of the Fallen: The Score]]
* [[Linkin Park]] and Hans Zimmer worked with Steve Jablonsky on the score of the movie. Linkin Park also wrote a song, called "New Divide". It was one of the theme songs for the movie, and they did several interpretations on that theme. <ref>[http://www.mikeshinoba.com/blog/special_events-recommended_music-in_the_studio-featured-linkin_park_/transformers_2_new_linkin_park_song_and_score]</ref>

==DVD release==

==Theatrical posters==
<gallery perrow="3">
Image:ROTFteaserposter.jpg|Teaser poster
Image:ROTF Theatrical poster.jpg|Theatrical poster
Image:ROTF International poster.jpg|International poster
Image:ROTF Prime poster.jpg|Prime poster
Image:ROTF bumblebee poster.jpg|Bumblebee poster
Image:ROTF Starscream poster.jpg|Wait...Starscream gets a poster but Megatron doesn't? That's just wrong.
</gallery>

==Reception==
{{quote|Transformers: ROTF has mostly gotten pretty hideous reviews, but that's because people don't understand that this isn't a movie, in the conventional sense.|[http://io9.com/5301898/michael-bay-finally-made-an-art-movie Michael Bay Finally Made An Art Movie], Charlie Jane Anders|[http://i09.com i09.com,] [[June 24]], [[2009]]}}
{{quote|[The critics] never seem to understand that I make movies for people to take a ride and escape.|[http://tinyurl.com/nyscnv forum post] by Michael Bay|[http://shootfortheedit.com shootfortheedit.com,] [[June 25]], [[2009]]}}

In the week leading up to the United States release, while the film had been released in Japan and the United Kingdom, ''Revenge of the Fallen'' was ranking 38% fresh on [http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_revenge_of_the_fallen/ Rotten Tomatoes.com]. As American reviews were added into the ranking on June 24, the movie's freshness slipped slowly to 22%. RottenTomatoes.com's consensus was that "''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' is a noisy, underplotted, and overlong special effects extravaganza that lacks a human touch." Roger Ebert, who gave the movie one star, remarked that "if you want to save yourself the ticket price, go into the kitchen, cue up a male choir singing the music of hell, and get a kid to start banging pots and pans together." <ref>[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090623/REVIEWS/906239997 Roger Ebert's ''Revenge of the Fallen'' review] on RogerEbert.com</ref> Todd Gilchrist of Cinematical.com said Michael Bay "has exceeded even the possibilities of sequel-driven 'moreness,' combining his own muscular, high-gloss sensibility with the conventions of blockbusters past, present, and probably future to create a monolithic action masterpiece that feels destined to be the biggest movie of all time." <ref>[http://www.cinematical.com/2009/06/22/review-transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen/ Review: Transformers Revenge of the Fallen] on Cinematical.com</ref> Michael Phillips from the Chicago Tribune said "the first, comparatively lucid ''Transformers'' was a headache, but I sort of enjoyed it....''Revenge of the Fallen'' is more like listening to rocks in a clothes dryer for 2½ hours." <ref>[http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/movies/chi-tc-mov-transformers-0623-0624jun23,0,7350387.story 'Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen' stars Shia LaBeouf, Megan Fox, Josh Duhamel] on chicagotribune.com </ref> Roger Ebert went back for more in a second article, declaring not only that ''Revenge of the Fallen'' was awful, but that it'd [[Ruined FOREVER|ruined action films FOREVER]]. <ref>[http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/06/the_fall_of_the_revengers.html "The Fall of the Revengers"] on suntimes.com</ref>

Despite the overwhelmingly negative reviews, ''Revenge of the Fallen'' poised itself quickly as a blockbuster maelstrom. It grossed $16 million in its opening midnight showings alone, an all-time record for Wednesday openings and a second-best for openings on any day of the week behind ''The Dark Knight''. After the full Wednesday was over, ''Revenge of the Fallen'' had grossed $55 million in domestic ticket sales, surpassing the previous Wednesday release record, held by ''Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix'', by over $10 million. <ref> [http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1614673/story.jhtml 'Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen' Breaks Wednesday Box-Office Record] on MTV.com</ref> By the end of the first five days, ''Revenge of the Fallen'' had taken an estimated $201.2 million in the United States, just shy of ''The Dark Knight's'' record $203.8 million 5-day US total. In the same period, international markets took in $186.1 million, bringing the 5-day worldwide total to $387.3 million.<ref>[http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2601&p=.htm BoxOfficeMojo.com - Weekend Report: ‘Revenge of the Fallen' Rises with Optimal Debut, June 28, 2009]</ref>

==Trivia==
*The official title of the film is ''Revenge of the Fallen'' (with a lower-case "t" in "the") even though it is apparently referring to [[The Fallen]] (with a capital "T" in "The").
*Leo's room features posters for [[Wikipedia:Naruto|Naruto]], [[Wikipedia:Cloverfield|Cloverfield]], and [[Wikipedia:Bad Boys 2|Bad Boys 2]].
*During the scenes set in and around the deli in NYC, posters for the bands [[Wikipedia:Catch 22 (band)|Catch Twenty-Two]] and [[wikipedia:Voodoo Glow Skulls|Voodoo Glow Skulls]] are prominently featured.
*[[Frank Welker]] dubbed [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] not only in English but also in Italian, as a result, in the Italian edition of the movie Soundwave speaks with a strange, foreign accent.

==Transformers references==
In addition to carryovers from the previous film, various concepts and characters are derived from previous iterations of Transformers:
* The whole concept of "Transformers disguised as a human" used for [[Alice]] is inspired by the [[Pretender]]s. Roberto Orci even used the term "Pretender" during an interview before the movie release. However, a Transformer with an "organic" alt-mode instead of an external shell is a concept more reminiscent of the [[Beast Era]].
* The Generation 1 iteration of [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] is frequently portrayed as switching from Decepticon to Autobot (he's usually a young and technologically up-to-the-minute 'bot, however.)
* [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and his ejectible minion [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] both have Generation 1 counterparts. Movie Soundwave even has the same voice actor as 1984 cartoon Soundwave, using the same voice, though without the synthetic vocal processing that made the cartoon voice so distinctive.
* [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] bears little physical resemblance to his Generation 1 namesake, but is a vaguely similar character archetype, and he ''does'' have that characteristic door armor hanging from his elbows.
* Generation 1 [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] was the first female Transformer with a starring role, and was likewise a pink-colored girlbot.
* [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], the combined form of the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]], was the first combiner robot in Generation 1.
* Prime combining with another 'bot to increase his power (and often gain flight capabilities) is a trope that has occurred in many recent Transformers series (''Robots in Disguise'', ''Armada'', ''Energon'', ''Cybertron''.) In ''Armada'', a different [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] was his most frequent combination partner. This is the first time the other 'bot had to die for it to happen, though.
* The Fallen is based on a comic book character that made his debut in 2004.
* The [[Matrix of Leadership]] is one of the franchise's oldest McGuffins.

==Development details==
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* In an interview with BANG! Showbiz, Shia LeBouf stated that the injuries he suffered in his recent vehicular collision were written into the script and did not adversely affect the filming schedule.<ref name="TheList2008">[http://www.list.co.uk/article/10788-shia-labeoufs-transformers-hand/ The List 1 August 2008]</ref>
* Also on January 29, 2009, Simon Furman commented on MTV Movie Blog about how the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] wouldn't fit very well into the movie's universe, and that he is glad they were dropped from the cast very early in development.<ref>[http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/01/29/no-dinobots-in-transformers-2-revenge-of-the-fallen-original-film-consultant-explains-why/ MTV Movie Blog interview with Simon Furman, January 29, 2009.]</ref>
* Michael Bay stated in interview with ''The Collider'' the he obtained permission to film in Egypt by contacting [[Zahi Hawass]], secretary general of Egypt's council of antiquities, who turned out to be a fan of the 2007 ''Transformers'' movie.<ref>[http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/10866/tcid/1 The Collider article and video interview with Michael Bay, February 9, 2009]</ref>
* In an interview with Sci Fi Wire on March 31st, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman said they had looked through the comics and cartoons for the "most elemental bad guy" that "jumped off the material" and found that in the Fallen. They also stated that due to production necessities (Hasbro and Bay needing characters for scenes and design to begin as soon as possible) and the 2008-2009 Writers Strike, some characters were in their initial treatment while others were designed specifically for the movie production, and that due to the overall numbers of robots, the audience would not get to know all of the Transformers closely. Indeed, Orci and Kurtzman referred to some characters via descriptors such "Volt" (Jolt) and "Wheelbot" (Demolishor). They also confirmed that Nimoy was open to playing the Fallen if the role was offered, and that they were in the middle of hashing it out with Frank Welker over a role in the movie, but the final decision was down to Bay.<ref name="scifiwireMarch2009">[http://scifiwire.com/2009/03/orci-kurtzman-reveal-tran.php SciFi Wire March 2009 interview with Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman]</ref>
* On the MTV Movies blog, Michael Bay reported that they were still doing for the voices for the film, and that he was (jokingly) nervous of asking his relative Leonard Nimoy if he wanted to voice The Fallen in the movie for fear of offending him with the relatively low pay allotted to voice actors.<ref>[http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/04/21/michael-bay-afraid-to-offend-leonard-nimoy-with-transformers-family-reunion-offer/ ''Michael Bay Afraid To Offend Leonard Nimoy With ‘Transformers’ Family Reunion Offer'', MTV.com Movies blog, April 21, 2009]</ref>
* In a June 22nd article in Forbes (released online on June 4th), Michael Bay talked about his philosphy in movie-making, his demand of part-ownership of movies he makes, and the revelation that he receives an 8% cut of all toy sales from the ''Transformers'' movies.<ref>[http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0622/celebrity-09-transformers-michael-bay-making-movies-enemies-money.html Michael Bay article on Forbes.com June 4, 2009]</ref>
* On June 8th, 2009, the movie had its world premiere in Japan. Michael Bay, Shia LaBeouf, Megan Fox, Josh Duhamel, Tyrese Gibson, Isabel Lucas and Ramon Rodriguez attended.<ref>[http://www.michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/47a23fdbb6ddc8ece6a0a6c87ccc2bbe-499.html Japanese Premiere photos at Michael Bay.com, June 8, 2009]</ref>. Other countries such as South Korea<ref>[http://www.michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/f7a7af7e754cfa877a635b95d8908eea-506.html Korean Premiere photos at Michael Bay.com, June 9, 2009]</ref>, the United Kingdom and Germany followed over the course of the next few days.
===Disinformation===
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* Michael Bay has claimed that the studio is putting out deliberate misinformation, to obscure real leaks.<ref>[http://io9.com/382919/michael-bay-plays-internet-punkd Michael Bay Plays Internet Punk'd]</ref> (Like our jobs weren't hard enough.)
* During San Diego Comic-Con 2008, in an interview on July 25th, [[Simon Furman]] claimed that the film would feature a character called [[The Fallen]], which was a character they created for [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]]'s ''[[The War Within: The Dark Ages]]''<ref>[http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17412 Simon Furman confirms The Fallen is a character in an interview with Comic Book Resources]</ref> Three days later, [[IDW Publishing]] writer [[Chris Mowry]] corroborated the claim in an interview with MTV Splash Page, calling "The Fallen" the main villain of ''Revenge'' ([[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] was also confirmed in the same interview, but the reference to her was mysteriously removed shortly after publication). <ref>[http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/07/28/exclusive-transformers-2-prequel-comic-gives-inside-scoop-on-2009-movie/ MTV Splash Page interviews Chris Mowry]</ref> Less than a week after this, however, Michael Bay reiterated that everything leaked thus far is part of their misinformation campaign and that only a handful of people involved with the production of ''Revenge'' have seen the script, contradicting IDW's interviews where their representatives confirm that they have the script. Additionally, Bay claimed the only truth about the film was Sam going to college.<ref>[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44729&postcount=2 A post made by Michael Bay on his forum]</ref> Curiously, on August 5th 2008, after a fan posted on Michael Bay's forum pointing out the contradiction, all references to the Fallen were removed from the aforementioned interviews, as well as any references to IDW Publishing having the script.
* ''Empire'' magazine's February 2009 issue features information on the role of the Egyptian Pyramids in the Movieverse's backstory. Michael Bay also confirmed The Fallen and denied Megatron would be resurrected (this later turned out to be untrue). Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics resembling helicopters will be revealed to be depictions of Transformers who visited Earth before the pyramids were built.<ref name="EmpireFeb2009">''Empire'' article entitled "20 to watch in 2009", written by Nick de Semelyn, dated February 2009, pages 68 and 69, issue 236</ref>
* After a short and poorly excuted "misinformation campaign" on the part of Michael Bay, Paramount and their licensees where they claimed that Megatron was not in the movie despite all ''officially released'' evidence to the contrary (including Megatron's brief appearance in the February 1 Superbowl tv spot and the February teaser trailer), Roberto Orci confirmed that Megatron does indeed return.<ref name="Megatron returns">[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-211.html#post3333713 Roberto Orci confirms Megatron's return on TFW2005.com - February 22, 2009]</ref>
* On March 6, due to the reports of Weaving's return, Michael Bay finally admitted Megatron was back, but claimed that Megatron would only appear briefly in a flashback to the past, despite the fact Megatron can be seen pinning Sam Witwicky to the ground in ''Revenge's'' tv spot and teaser trailer. One can assume that the director was trying to salvage some form of audience surprise in seeing Megatron return in the movie. In other news of a presumably legitimate kind, Bay said that the movie would go into the distant past and explain the history of the [[Prime]]s.<ref>[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=66825&postcount=4 Michael Bay on his forum - March 6, 2009]</ref>

===''Transformers'' sequel and the 2007-2008 Writers Strike===
In late 2007, during preproduction for then-untitled ''Transformers'' sequel, the [[wikipedia:2007–2008 Writers Guild of America strike|Writers Guild of America went on strike]]. At the time, Roberto Orci stated that the strike could likely delay ''Transformers 2's'' release. However, Michael Bay refuted this, claiming the movie was still on schedule.<ref>[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6200#post6200 Robert Orci discusses the strike & TF2]</ref> The reason behind Bay's confidence was discovered by Orci shortly after the strike ended. The director had apparently taken the outline the writers had handed in the night before the strike, and began pre-production based on it. <ref>[http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showthread.php?t=24357&page=4 Don Murphy message board - Orci on the aftermath of the strike]</ref>

==Errors==
*Bumblebee picks up Sam at a frat party in the evening. He then takes him to a graveyard where it's daytime.
*On the sonar, there are "five contacts" diving down to Megatron's location, and "six contacts" going up after his resurrection. Since one Constructicon was killed to repair Megatron, the same number of contacts should be registered each time. (Whether Scalpel or Ravage count decides whether the ''five'' or ''six'' count was wrong.)
*Pulling a [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]], Scalpel vanishes after Optimus' arrival, the Twins are not seen again after the Devastator fight and Wheelie disappears for the entire third act. What the hell, man?
*When Jetfire is activated at the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum (actually the [[Wikipedia:Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center|Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center]], an annex of the Smithsonian) in Washington, he leaves the exhibition center and exits into the desert location of the [[Wikipedia:309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group|309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group (aka The Boneyard)]], which is in Tuscon, Arizona. When Jetfire breaks out of the building, we can see a composited image of the Boneyard's rows of planes, so it's arguable that in this universe the middle of Washington DC happens to be a desert full of old planes, and no buildings and uh... heh heh. Given that this and the Transformers are the ''only'' changes between this universe and ours, that's a stretch.

===Not actually an error===

==External links==
*[http://www.transformersmovie.com Dreamworks/Paramount's ''Transformers'' Movie website]
*[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/ Hasbro's ''Transformers'' homepage]
*[http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/10866/tcid/1 Interview with Michael Bay 02/09/2009] — Collider.com

==References==
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Soundbox

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A '''soundbox''' is an electronic gadget containing a memory device that records one or more sound clips and plays them back on demand, allowing for audible explosions, beep-wheedles, and "[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Generation 2|I am Optimus Prime]]".

A soundbox is a self-contained unit containing batteries, electronics, and speaker, which makes it simple to install in a toy -- all the designer needs is to allow space and a grille for the speaker, and make sure there's a way to get to the batteries in one of the toy's modes. On the other hand, a soundbox is relatively large as [[Gimmick|gimmicks]] go, and requires a fair amount of dedicated space.

As with all electronics, soundbox technology has improved notably in the last twenty plus years. Toys featuring soundboxes during the 1980s usually also had to make space for a relatively large [[wikipedia:PP3_battery|nine-volt battery]] and the snap connectors that went with it. Modern soundboxes are now powered by [[wikipedia:button_cell|button cell]] batteries, [[wikipedia:AAA_battery|AAA batteries]], or [[wikipedia:AA_battery|AA batteries]].

Soundboxes have also become somewhat cheaper to manufacture, given their very sparse use in lines previous to [[Armada (franchise)|2002]]. During Armada and after, the boxes became a common feature on larger figures.

Because of all these electronic whiz-bang doohickeys involved in their function, it is not uncommon to see one or more [[Light-emitting diode|light-emitting diodes]] wired into the board.

==Toys Utilizing Soundboxes==
1985

* [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]

1986

* [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]

1993

* [[Megatron (G1) toys|Megatron]]
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]]
* [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]
* [[Starscream (G1) toys|Starscream]]

2000

* [[Cheetor (BW)|Supreme Cheetor]]

2001

* [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]]
* [[Ultra Magnus (RID)|Ultra Magnus]]

2002

* [[Dark Saber|Roleplay Dark Saber]]
* [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]]
* [[Laserbeak (Armada)|Laserbeak]]
* [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]]
* [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]]
* [[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]]
* [[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]]
* [[Star Saber (Armada)|Roleplay Star Saber]]
* [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]]

2003

* K-Mart [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Gold Optimus Prime]] and [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] two-pack
* Sam's Club [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]]
* Sam's Club [[Ultra Magnus (RID)|Ultra Magnus]]
* Toys 'R' Us [[Optimus Primal|Air Attack Optimus Primal]]
* [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]]
* [[Overload (Armada)|Overload]]
* [[Jetfire (Armada)|Powerlinx Jetfire]]
* [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Powerlinx Optimus Prime]]
* [[Red Alert (Armada)|Powerlinx Red Alert]]
* [[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]]
* [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]]

2004

* Sam's Club [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] and [[Prowl (Energon)|Prowl]] two-pack
* Toys 'R' Us [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] two-pack
* [[Bulkhead (Energon)|Bulkhead]]
* [[Cliffjumper (Energon)|Cliffjumper]]
* [[Ironhide (Energon)|Iron Hide]]
* [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]]
* [[Landmine (Energon)|Landmine]]
* [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]]
* [[Tidal Wave|Mirage]]
* [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]]
* [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]]
* [[Shockblast (Energon)|Shockblast]]
* [[Treadbolt]]
* [[Ultra Magnus (Energon)|Ultra Magnus with Space Mini-Con Team]]

2005

* [[Beachcomber (Energon)|Beachcomber]]
* [[Dreadwing (Energon)|Dreadwing]]
* [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]]
* [[Ironhide (Energon)|Energon Iron Hide]]
* [[Landquake (Energon)|Landquake]]
* [[Omega Sentinel (Energon)|Omega Sentinel]]
* [[Omega Supreme (Energon)|Omega Supreme]]
* [[Overcast (Energon)|Overcast]]
* [[Quickstrike (Energon)|Quickstrike]]
* [[Six Shot]]

2006

* Costco [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Ultra Magnus (RID)|Ultra Magnus]] two-pack
* [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)|Crumplezone]]
* [[Scorponok (Energon)|Dark Scorponok]]
* [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]]
* [[Overhaul (Cybertron)|Leobreaker]]
* [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]]
* [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]
* [[Scourge (Cybertron)|Scourge]]
* [[Starscream (Armada)|Supreme Starscream]]
* [[Vector Prime]]
* [[Primus]]

2007

* [[Scourge (Cybertron)|Cryo Scourge]]
* [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)|Dark Crumplezone]]
* [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Galaxy Force Optimus Prime]]
* [[Vector Prime|Galaxy Force Vector Prime]]
* [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]]
* [[Menasor (Cybertron)|Menasor]]
* [[Metroplex (Cybertron)|Metroplex]]
* [[Nemesis Breaker]]
* [[Jetfire (Armada)|Sky Shadow]]
* [[Wing Saber]]
* [[Brawl (Movie)|Leader Class Brawl]]
* [[Brawl (Movie)|Desert Attack Brawl]]
* [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]
* [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]
* [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Nightwatch Optimus Prime]]

2008

* [[Megatron (Movie)|Premium Megatron]]
* [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Premium Optimus Prime]]
* [[Jetstorm (Movie)|Jetstorm]]
* [[Wingblade]]
* [[Inferno (Movie)|Inferno]]
* [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]]
* [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]]
* [[Silverbolt (G1)|Utra Class Silverbolt]]
* [[Storm Cloud (G1)|Storm Cloud]]
* [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Roll Out Command Optimus Prime]]
* [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Leader Class Bulkhead]]
* [[Megatron (Animated)|Earth Mode Megatron]]
* [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]]

==Trivia==
[[Image:Speaker.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Starscream feels empty inside.]]
* [[Shockwave (G1)|Generation 1 Shockwave]] was the first ''Transformers'' toy to feature electronic sounds.
* [[Galvatron (G1)|Reissue Galvatron's]] soundbox was upgraded to use AA batteries instead of the original's nine-volt.
* [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave's]] Armada box noted that he had electronic sounds. He did not. Bummer.
* [[Starscream (Armada)|Cybertron Voyager Starscream]] was designed with a soundbox in mind (even including the requisite speaker and battery brackets when you crack one open), but the final Hasbro and Takara versions have no electronics. Again, bummer.

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[[Category:Gimmicks]]

Scale

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[[Image:OptimusSnakeEyes.jpg|right|300px|thumb|And the truck's how big...?]]
'''Scale''' in ''Transformers'' is, not to put too fine a point on it, screwed.

Virtually no era, franchise, fiction, [[Toy|toyline]] or other incarnation of ''Transformers'' has presented scale in a logical or believable fashion. (The only exceptions are the 1:24 toys for ''[[Alternators]]'' and ''[[Kiss Players (toyline)|Kiss Players]]'', but they [[Atari Hitotonari|have their own problems]].) Most fans agree that one must either ignore it or accept it, lest they be tempted to explain these problems and in the process fanwank themselves into oblivion.

However, the scale problems of ''Transformers'' still merit description.

{{bigquote|"Clearly, the pitiful humans at Hasbro are so overwhelmed by the awesomeness of Cybertronian life forms that they can't get the scale right."|[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]|[[Transformers Comic issue 23|Star Scream's #23]]}}

==Scale within toylines==

===Toys out of scale with others in the same line===
[[Image:DiacloneScale.jpg|right|350px|thumb|That little guy — who comes from the same toyline as all those vehicles — is supposed to be a normal-sized human. Yeeeah.]]
The early [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1 toyline]], especially the pre-[[The Transformers: The Movie|movie]] lines, were repackaged and [[Redeco|redecoed]] toys from several different Japanese toylines. The crucial point is that the toylines were initially unrelated. The characters ''should'' be in scale to each other as they all have real-world altmodes that (should) pass for real vehicles. However, since ''[[Diaclone]]'' toys were not part of the same line as ''[[Microman]]'' toys, scale issues arose. ''Diaclone'' figures such as [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] are more-or-less in correct scale to each other (though problems already arise with [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], whose [[alternate mode]]s are based on ''the same car'' yet are not quite the same size), but many of the [[Mini Vehicle]]s from the ''New Microman'' line are clearly far too small by comparison. Even aside from their deformed penny-racer proportions, a [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Volkswagen Beetle]] Microman toy is disproportionately tiny when compared to a [[Jazz (G1)/toys|Porsche 935]] Diaclone toy. The disparity becomes even more obvious with [[Mini Vehicle|Minibots]] such as [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] (a tank) and [[Seaspray (G1)|Seaspray]] (a hovercraft), who should be many times their actual size.

Another glaring scale problem comes in the form of the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]], who turn into F-15 Eagles which, in real life, are 19.4 m (63.8 feet) long. Correctly scaled, this would make their robot modes ''colossal'' compared to most Autobots. Similarly, the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], despite also coming from the ''Diaclone'' line, are too small. Far worse is the other ''Diaclone'' combiner team, the [[Trainbot]]s, who have train engine altmodes, yet their toys are among the ''smallest'' of the ''Diaclone'' releases.

Transformers are currently formalised to a variety of [[size class|size classes]], which dictate the approximate cost and dimensions of a figure. Consequently, if the powers that be release toys of two characters in the same line in the same size class, they're going to come out in the same size. Even if one character's a [[Starscream (Movie)|twenty-metre fighter jet]] and the other's a [[Ironhide (Movie)|five-metre pickup truck]]. So don't expect this one to go away any time soon.

===Toys out of scale within teams===
Even toys specifically designed to interact with each other suffer from this problem. The [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] are wildly out of scale to each other—[[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]]'s space shuttle mode should dwarf [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]], with the others somewhere in between. Instead, they're about the same size. Among the Constructicons, [[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]] is designed to look like a gigantic [[Wikipedia:Image:Liebherr t282 1.jpg|"earth-mover" mining truck]]. He should be able to carry all his teammates in his bed, with some crowding. Similarly, [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (a Concorde jet) is dramatically undersized compared to his fighter-jet [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbot]] teammates. These scale problems are necessary to avoid misproportioned gestalt forms.

Don't even ask about the Protectobots with their [[Groove (G1)|motorcycle]] and [[Blades|helicopter]] limbs...

===Same altmode, different sizes===
Other scale problems come from characters who transform into the same (or similar) altmodes but whose toys are different sizes. For example [[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] transforms into an F-15 Eagle, but his toy is half the size of [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]]'s. The same can be said for the Lamborghini Countach [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]], who should be the same size as [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], not significantly smaller. These discrepancies are also seen in the other [[Scramble City]] combiners with Earth altmodes, whose toys are all smaller than similar earlier toys.

===Multiple scales of same character===
Although it was never really a problem in G1 (later retro-iterations of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|G1 Prime]] e.g. [[Masterpiece]] don't count), later franchises sometimes released multiple versions of the same character in different [[size class]]es ''within the same product line'', usually limited to the leader characters. Multiple versions of [[Optimus Primal/toys|Optimus Primal]] and [[Megatron (BW)/toys|Megatron]] in ''[[Beast Wars (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' weren't exactly an example of this, as they represented different bodies, but ''[[Beast Machines (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' began the problem in earnest with three different [[Cheetor (BW)/toys|Cheetor toys]] released over the course of the line. With one toy at the Supreme size point, one at the Mega point, and a third slight variant at the Deluxe point, there was no real indication of which size if any was the "correct" one. The same line also released two different [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] toys, two different Tankor toys, two different Thrust toys, and two different Optimus Primals. (Though in the case of the Vehicons one of each pair could be considered a distinct "drone" version; in the media the "drones" and the "sparked" Vehicons were physically indistinguishable.)

[[Image:TFAnimated RolloutCommand OptimusPrime toy.jpg|right|230px|thumb|Hooray. I'm in scale with nobody.]]
''[[Robots in Disguise (toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' continued the trend, with several prominent characters receiving a smaller [[Spy Changer]] toy in addition to their larger toy, such as [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]] and [[X-Brawn]]. The ''[[Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' line featured both a Super-Con and Super-Base version of [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]] featuring the same design at different size-classes, an issue repeated with [[Megatron (Armada)/toys|Megatron]] in ''[[Energon (toyline)|Energon]]''. The introduction of the "Legends of Cybertron" size class in ''[[Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' only compounded matters, as a plethora of different characters were released at a size wildly out of scale with any of their contemporaries. ''Cybertron'' also featured the first notable case of out-of-scale toys being at least partially explained in the fiction with [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], who did change size over the course of the series.

With the explosion of toys for the [[Movie (toyline)|Movie]], even more scale problems erupted. The line offered both Voyager and Leader-class iterations of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys|Prime]] and [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], not to mention nearly all of the movie's onscreen cast getting a Fast Action Battler toy which introduces scale problems between the toys and one another. The fact that [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] came with a small Scorponok, and a separate Deluxe class [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] was released, only expands the scale problems when one realizes that the Blackout and Deluxe Scorponok toys are meant to interact. Blackout can carry the small Scorponok ''while'' clipped on to the larger one as well, effectively transporting ''both'' at the same time, which makes the entire assembly a nightmare of scaling problems.

This mishmash has expanded even further in the ''[[Transformers Animated (toyline)|Animated]]'' line, with Deluxe, Voyager, and even Supreme-class versions of [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus]]. [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]], has an Activators, Deluxe, Voyager and Leader mode. And there's even three different sizes for poor [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]]: Leader, Voyager, and Activator.

Originally, the intent was apparently to make the popular [[Optimus (disambiguation)|Optimus]] and [[Megatron (disambiguation)|Megatron]] characters available at lower price points than just "leader" class so that children with less money would not miss out, while also forcing [[completist]] [[User:ItsWalky|collectors]] to buy multiple versions of one character. The result, however, is that it creates further confusion about scale within the toyline, as the contradictory sizes of these toys leave it [[Personal canon|up to the fans]] to determine which is the "correct" version, either using apparent [[show-accuracy]] or other criteria. Sometimes this creates even further problems, though—if one assumes that the Voyager-class Movie Prime is the "correct" version, then he either has comically small seats for human passengers or [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] has absurdly large seats.

===Toys out of scale with themselves===
[[Image:G1 Broadside toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Kill me. Just... kill me now.]]
[[Triple Changer]]s create a whole new set of problems. [[Octane]] transforms from a 20 m (60') tanker truck into a 65 m (200') jumbo jet. [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] transforms from an Earth jet into an entire ''aircraft carrier.''

Even a two-mode toy can have this problem. Twentieth Anniversary Optimus Prime has wheels which are pretty tiny for a Freightliner truck, while his rear hitch section is too thick. These out-of-proportion vehicle parts were necessary to give his robot mode [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] proportions.

===Toys with roleplay altmodes===
The characters with roleplay altmodes such as Generation 1 [[Megatron (G1)/toys|Megatron]], [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]], [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], or [[Laserbeak (Armada)|''Armada'' Laserbeak]] are scaled to be human-scale (well, kid-scale). Since the [[size changing]] seen in the fiction is not possible for real toys (at least, that's what [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] ''wants'' us to think), this human-scaling makes in some cases for inordinately large robot modes. E.g., [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]'s toy, in robot mode, is taller than most other Transformers.

The opposite problem is seen with [[Megatron (G1)/toys|Masterpiece Megatron]], whose robot mode is in scale with Masterpiece Optimus Prime. The result is that, while he may transform into a very accurately-proportioned handgun, it's unmistakably much larger than the real thing. (Not that this has stopped him being widely banned as a "realistic firearm replica"...)

===Fanciful altmodes===
Most post-[[The Transformers: The Movie|movie]] Generation 1 characters (for that matter, most post-Generation 1 lines) are difficult to accurately scale, as they generally transform into futuristic or Cybertronian vehicles whose size we don't really know. (Or, indeed, they don't transform into vehicles at all.) The scale of characters such as [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys|Hot Rod]] or [[Overhaul (Cybertron)|Leobreaker]] is fairly arbitrary and can only be estimated by their relative size to other characters in the fiction (although most fiction is highly inconsistent in this regard, see below). Nevertheless, if one assumes that most vehicle altmodes are intended for human-sized passengers, comparing toys such as [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] and [[Lightspeed (Technobot)|Lightspeed]] suggests the combiner scale problem continues.

===Big toys===
It goes without saying that the [[city-bot]] and planetbot toys (such as [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] and [[Unicron]]) are not remotely to scale with normal Transformer toys. While they are indeed ''large'' toys, they're only two to five times bigger than typical Transformer toys, and thus transform into "cities" and "planets" about the (relative) size of a bungalow. The scale problems extend to the details. Some of the citybot toys have visible windows, which are too large for a city, suggesting instead a medium-sized building.

However, it's hard to begrudge Hasbro not offering us a [[Primus]] toy the size of an asteroid. Where would we keep it?

===An exception===
There has only been one notable exception to all of this scale weirdness in the toys: the ''Alternators'' toyline, where every toy is a 1:24-scale representation of a real car, and thus they are in perfect scale with each other. Unfortunately, for practical reasons this limits the choice of altmodes. A Blast Off (space shuttle) toy in scale with the Alternators toys would be 1.6 m (5.1') long, while a Broadside (aircraft carrier) toy at that scale would be over 12 m (40'). (Hasbro actually displayed [[Prototype|mock-ups]] for an unproduced line of "military" Transformers in scale with the Alternators during the BotCon 2007 Hasbro Tour; two of them recycled parts of ''[[Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Unicron]], and were thus [[Size class|Supreme-sized]], which made said potential toyline not particularly commercially viable for Hasbro.)

== Scale within fictions ==
Scale issues abound within the fiction, especially the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]]. Some can be attributed to [[animation error]]s, such as layering problems,[[:Image:Tinybluestreak.jpg|1]][[:Image:Huge Ironhide and Small Ratchet.jpg|2]][[:Image:CarnageMiniBlaster.jpg|3]] but some "errors" were deliberate choices, for a variety of reasons.

===Fictional scale vs. toy scale===
[[Image:TeenyCliff.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Frighteningly toy-accurate.]]
[[Image:Powerglide Astoria Marygoaround.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Actually, [[Kiss Players (franchise)|disturbing fiction]] is probably more of a concern than scale issues.]]
G1 ''Transformers'' fiction often depicts characters to the same relative scale as the toys, which duplicates the intra-toyline problems described above. The cartoon, for example, shows Prime, Megatron and Soundwave as about the same height, Seekers and Autobot cars as slightly shorter (though not as much as the toys are), and Minibots as smaller yet. This scale was carried over to their vehicle forms, resulting in differently-sized cars that, based on real world measurements, should be virtually the same size.

[[Image:Omegasupreme astrotrain.jpg|right|180px|thumb|I know he's meant to be big, but holy crap, dude!]]
For another example, the Marvel Comics portrayed the Pretenders as literal interpretations of their toys: 60-foot humans with full scale Transformers inside. The "disguise" aspect of this was later explained by having Landmine and Cloudburst encounter giant, transformer-sized humanoids on an alien planet which made them appear to be of a "normal" scale.

Transformers fiction commonly shrinks or inflates characters, relative to their toy sizes. "Giant" characters such as [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] are, even aside from any [[size changing]] for transport purposes, clearly not in the same scale in toy form as they are depicted on screen. [[Mini-Cassette|Cassette characters]] such as [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]'s toys are roughly the same height as most Minibots, while in the show they are usually portrayed as human-sized.

[[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] are usually shown to be of a fairly similar height (although Magnus is much bulkier), whereas there is a considerable difference between the size of their toys. By the same token, Rodimus is always depicted as being an equal stature to his opposing leader [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], whereas the toy Galvatron is instead the same size as Magnus. Optimus Prime is also usually shown as only a head or so shorter than Magnus (if that), which gets very strange when you realise that a [[redeco]] of Prime's toy forms but a small part of Magnus' robot mode.

[[Image:Beastwarsmaxgroup.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Airazor picks the Ultra-class figure.]]
The cast of ''[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' were size-tweaked quite a bit, relative to the toyline. The most noticeable problem is Optimus Primal, who has an Ultra toy (the "level four" size, almost twice the size of the "level three" Mega next-largest Maximal toys), but is shorter than both Dinobot and Rhinox (both of whom are "level two" Deluxe sized toys). Further, Cheetor and Tigatron's toys use the same (Deluxe) mold, but Tigatron is a head taller in the show (both because tigers are larger than cheetahs, and because Cheetor is "a kid"). New and altered characters in later seasons were generally more consistent in size (and appearance) with the toys.

The ''[[Beast Machines (toyline)|Beast Machines]]''' toyline was ''far'' worse in size discrepancies with the cartoon. Of the Maximals featured in the show, the tallest character, [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]], is the ''shortest'' toy, while the diminutive [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]] is a massive Ultra-class toy. And, sadly, the most show-accurate toy, Air Attack [[Optimus Primal/toys|Optimus Primal]], is a ''ginormous'' Supreme figure, towering over the other toys. (Weirdly, the King Kong-like size of this toy became canon in one specific [[micro-continuity]]. {{storylink|Prime Spark}})
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[[Image:ShrinkingHeavy.jpg|right|180px|thumb|I lost thirty tons, thanks to the Jump-Cut! Thank you, Jump-Cut!]]
In the otherwise fairly toy-scale-savvy [[Unicron Trilogy]], [[Metroplex (Cybertron)|''Cybertron'' Metroplex]] and the other citizens of [[Gigantion]] are depicted as gargantuan in animation, whereas the toys are merely among the normal boxed size-classes. Within the animation, this causes problems with their Mini-Con partners, who are depicted as human-sized in robot mode by themselves, but when shown directly interacting with their larger partners, are scaled up right along with their partner... resulting in some temporarily gigantic Mini-Cons!

The Japanese ''[[Cybertron (franchise)#Galaxy Force|Galaxy Force]]'' release of Metroplex, dubbed "Megalo Convoy", included an exclusive [[redeco]] of the [[Legends Class|Legends of Cybertron]] [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime toy]] to indicate the "correct" scale.

The ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' franchise has its share of scale problems when comparing its toyline to the cartoon (not helped by multiple releases of some characters in different sizes—see above), with several characters seeming roughly one [[size class]] too small, such as the [[Dinobot (Animated)|Dinobots]] being a mix of one Voyager size and two Deluxes, [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] looking rather diminutive as a Deluxe, and, most egregiously, [[Lugnut]] as a ''very'' squat Voyager who's shorter than even some Deluxes. (As with Voyager-class Bulkhead, more of his mass went into his width, plus his weapon takes away some from his robot mode.) Conversely, the traditionally stunted [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] is marginally too tall and bulky to be in correct scale to his otherwise fairly accurate core teammates, assuming one includes Voyager [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus]] and Leader [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] in their lineup. In fact, Animated is one of those toylines where you're not quite sure who you're supposed to base correct scale on.

===Inconsistent portrayal===
[[Image:OmegaSupremeintro.jpg|left|175px|thumb|No! Don't wash him in hot water! He'll...]]
[[Image:Omegasupreme-blasterandgrimlock.jpg|right|200px|thumb|...too late.]]
Even if a size was decided on, it often didn't remain consistent. The height of the cartoon's [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]], just to name one, frequently varied between episodes.

The [[The Transformers (Marvel Comics)|Generation 1 Marvel comic]] is notorious for changing the relative sizes of various characters. A single Transformer's size is rarely consistent between artists. For example, Rumble and Frenzy vary in height relative to Soundwave. A panel in the "[[Time Wars]]" shows [[Bumblebee (G1)|Goldbug]], [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]], [[Scattershot]], and [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] all the same height. [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], titanic in his original appearance, {{storylink|Command Performances!}} shrunk steadily in subsequent issues until he was not much taller than the average Transformer. Fortress Maximus suffered a similar problem, shrinking in size even though he was explicitly rebuilt to be twice as tall as the average Transformer.

[[Image:Beastwarriors scale.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Beast Megatron's size vs. Optimus Prime's in America... and Japan. Looks like the Blasty Zone adds on a few tons to Beast Era characters.]]
Between the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] and the [[Beast Era]], the majority of the Cybertronian race considerably downgraded in size at the [[Great Upgrade]]. When entering the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], the Beast Warriors are quite small compared to the dormant Generation 1 characters, especially [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]—but just ''how'' much bigger varies quite a bit from scene to scene and episode to episode. When interacting with the Autobot technology of the Ark and the [[Autobot shuttle]], the Maximals are often dealing with equipment grossly oversized for them (standing on the chairs to reach the controls, turning knobs the size of their heads); yet the Ark also seems to feature some human-sized computer control panels. {{storylink|Master Blaster|Master Blaster}} Without any height booster, Blackarachnia can interface well with these controls.

On the other hand, ''[[Robot Masters (franchise)|Robot Masters]]'' depicted Generation 1 and ''Beast Wars'' characters like Optimus Prime and Optimus Primal as being exactly the same size. Lovely. It's possible that passage through the [[Blasty Zone]] may somehow [[Wikipedia:Boom tube#Later Additions to the Concept|account for this discrepancy]].

===Explicit size changes===
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Numerous characters are explicitly shown to shrink or expand at various times.

====Human-scaled alternate modes====
Blaster becomes a human-size radio; Megatron shrinks into a Transformer-scaled handgun. The cartoons and comics typically show this without explanation, leaving the reader to attribute it to advanced alien technology.

====Pretenders====
Some versions of the Pretenders are shown to explicitly shrink when hiding in their human-sized outer shells. In the U.S. toy commercials, Grimlock, Bumblebee, and Jazz in their new Pretender forms were small enough to fit in Powermaster Optimus Prime's hand. So, at least in that [[micro-continuity]], they were human-sized. ''[[Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' featured Pretenders who did not have outer shells but rather an ill-defined holistic transformation which explicitly involved size changing. A vaguely similar explanation appeared in [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]]'s ''[[More Than Meets The Eye (G1)|More Than Meets The Eye]]'' encyclopedia.

===Implicit size changes===
Characters often change size when transforming in a less explicit fashion. These changes in scale are usually attributed to size changing by that portion of the fanbase who like to find explanations for things. The other explanation is that the artists hoped the audience wouldn't notice.

====Transport characters====
In the original cartoon, Transformers that act as transport for other Transformers, such as [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]], and [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]], will often dramatically change size relative to their compatriots between one shot and the next. For example, Cosmos is ''much'' shorter than Blaster in robot form; yet Blaster easily fits within his spacecraft mode. Likewise, a whole squad of Decepticons can fit into Astrotrain's shuttle mode easily, yet he's an ordinary-sized trooper in his robot form.

Sometimes the cartoon would show ordinarily-scaled characters such as Cyclonus, Thrust or Huffer carrying another Transformer in their cockpit, implying either a tiny passenger or a huge vehicle. Even Omega Supreme, who is supposed to be huge, would have to have a greatly expanded scale for his rocket ship component to accommodate passengers as shown on the cartoon.

The Marvel comics commonly sidestepped this issue by not using Transformers as transport characters, or else requiring the passengers to transform into their explicitly smaller forms to be carried. Yet they were not immune to this problem. In one story, the Pretender [[Cloudburst]] exited his shell, transformed into jet mode, and then his shell (and [[Landmine (G1)|Landmine]]) boarded him as a passenger. The fact that his ''outer'' shell was now much smaller than the ''inner'' robot was quietly ignored. {{storylink|Guess Who the Mecannibals Are Having for Dinner?}}

Dreamwave's ''More Than Meets The Eye'' series of bio comics tried to explain this for characters such as Astrotrain and Broadside by saying they're able to expand themselves to increase cargo space in vehicle mode, though their armor becomes thinner as it is spread out more. Conversely, the series notes, in robot mode, all that armor and structure being compressed into a smaller form makes that mode stronger and more durable for combat.

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Image:MakeHoistHuffer.jpg|Definitely ''not'' toy-accurate.
Image:Ironhide carried into Ratchet.jpg|...And not to mention [[Ironhide (G1)|th]][[Ratchet (G1)|is]].
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====Combiner characters====
[[Image:DreamwaveCover6.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Since when is a sedan nine stories tall?]]
[[Combiner]] characters are often depicted as far larger than the sum of their parts. Characters such as [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] are frequently shown as [[That big green, fire-snortin' lizard|Godzilla]]-sized. Given that their limbs are mere cars and construction vehicles, this is patently absurd. ([[Superion (G1)|Superion]], by contrast, ''would'' be building-sized, given that his torso is a 100-seat jetliner.)

Combiners are also often out-of-scale with other Transformers; a combiner with cars for legs and another car for its torso should be only twice as tall as a one-car Transformer, but they are routinely drawn as five to dozens of times taller than their comrades.

====Scale problems and size-changing====
Some fans interpret the many otherwise-unexplained scale issues above to all be the result of [[size changing]], but this is debatable. If virtually all characters use mass-shifting (or whatever) to gain or drop a few feet of height for no logical reason, the technology would be pointlessly mundane. There's also no known reason for (e.g.) the Seekers to choose to get ''shorter'' when going into battle. A to-scale Starscream in robot mode could kick Bumblebee around like a soccer ball. There's simply no positive evidence that size-changing is so widespread.

===Undersized alternate modes===
Many Transformers are portrayed in fiction as having alternate modes that are smaller than the real-life objects they are imitating. Sometimes this is deliberate, allowing them to match their toy scale and/or be of a similar size to other characters; in other cases, it is essentially an artistic error.

Toys at the lowest price points usually include "mini" or "micro" in their name. [[Mini Vehicle]]s [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]], [[Seaspray (G1)|Seaspray]], and [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] are usually depicted as smaller than other Transformers in fiction, even though their alternate modes should have them towering over other characters. This often results in minuscule vehicle forms; Seaspray is a tiny hovercraft, despite being covered with doors and windows.

[[Image:Hotrodpatrolcommercial.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Do you have change for four hot rods?]]
The [[Micromaster]]s are explicitly downsized Transformers, roughly the size of a human in the comics, meaning that they ''should'' have explicitly tiny vehicle modes... which wouldn't make for very convincing disguises. The Micromasters are about the same height in robot mode, but they transform into equally tiny cars, trucks, planes, tanks, and other vehicles that should be vastly different sizes.

Despite this, the Marvel comic featured [[Roadhandler (G1)|Roadhandler]] carrying a human passenger in his vehicle form, as though he were a full-sized car. The Dreamwave miniseries ''[[Micromasters]]'' suggested that the Micromasters were scaled down to interact more easily with "smaller beings". Whether that meant creatures of human scale or even smaller stature is never clarified, but the Micromasters' passenger compartments are presumably too small to accommodate human passengers.

The [[Mini-Con]]s of the [[Unicron Trilogy]] are another race of small robots who stand approximately the same height as humans and, like the Micromasters before them, are clearly modeled to carry passengers. Really teeny passengers. (Notable exceptions are [[Grindor (Armada)|Grindor]] (in his original body), [[Sureshock (Armada)|Sureshock]], and [[High Wire (Armada)|High Wire]], who become small one-man conveyances.) This results from the Mini-Cons scanning normal vehicles and then resizing them to fit, retaining now-useless passenger compartments. In the [[Cybertron (cartoon)|''Cybertron'' cartoon]], the [[Recon Mini-Con Team]] have slightly-larger-than-human robot modes, but their alternate modes are large enough for a single human passenger, implying either a little size-changing or that their cockpits are kinda cramped. Though the Recon Team all originate from Gigantion, and seeing how partnered Mini-Cons seem to change size to fit their larger companions, a little size shift to accomodate a passenger doesn't seem too far-fetched compared to other scale issues.

Likewise, the [[Beast Era]] Maximals and Predacons possess roughly human-size bodies; yet when portrayed as vehicles on Cybertron ("[[Dawn of Future's Past]]", the [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicons]] in ''[[Beast Machines (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]''), they feature seats and cockpits that, at their size, should be basically useless.

====Citybots====
[[Image:EarlyGalvatronTVMagazine1.jpg|right|200px|thumb|If you were ever this big in the cartoon, then we might call you a city.]]
[[City-bot|A few characters]] have "city" alternate modes. As actual real-life cities can sprawl for many miles, a [[city-bot]] that can notionally house a population of humans, ''let alone'' Transformers, should have a robot-mode that'd make [[Hojoni|Godzilla]] look like a gecko. Suffice to say, almost no fiction even ''begins'' to approximate the logical size of a true "city-bot". In the American and Japanese cartoons, all four were shown as massive robots capable of housing many normal-sized Transformers. Even so, it would take something along the lines of the grossly undersized depictions of [[Unicron]] (see below) even to begin to represent reasonably the colossal size of a transformed city; so in the context of Transformers, "city" is perhaps better read as "building" or "fortress".

These city-bots often have "small" robots forming vital components. Scorponok has a "human-sized" being forming his head. [[Full-Tilt]], [[Six-Gun]], and [[Slammer]] must logically be building-sized in robot-mode to be in-scale with Trypticon and Metroplex, but, again, are not drawn as such.

The Marvel Generation 1 comic sidestepped this issue by depicting Trypticon, Fortress Maximus and Scorponok as merely "large-standard" characters. However, Metroplex, during his one, brief appearance, was depicted as being immensely larger, crushing Quintesson attack cruisers under foot without batting an eyelid. He was still considerably smaller than a city, however, but this was justified by him merely serving as the 'transformation core' for Autobot City: Earth, not the actual city itself.

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====Planets and planetbots====
[[Image:Cybertronplanet.jpg|left|250px|thumb|If we're generous and assume Cybertron is only the size of Earth's moon, then the larger visible buildings are roughly the size of Massachusetts stood on end, and you could wedge France into that gash. (Which would probably improve both Cybertron and France.)]]
Scale when it comes to planets is so fraught it's painful. The problems of describing citybots as "cities" is a thousand times worse if [[Unicron]] is supposed to have a planet alternate mode, and [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] is in turn supposed to be of similar size. Though different stories have compared Cybertron/Primus and Unicron to drastically different real planets, the fact remains that they are ''planets'', and yet are shown in such insane scale to characters as to suggest they are the size of a ''very'' small moon (or [[Darth Vader|space station]]).

To start with, Cybertron was shown throughout ''Generation 1'' with buildings visible from space. Although this was intended to show that the planet was technological in nature, it makes little sense, as the structures would have to be the size of small ''nations'' to be visible. If the buildings were in fact supposed to be skyscrapers (or even ''2000 A.D.''-style arcologies) sized for 10 m (30') robots, Cybertron would still be less than 150km (100 miles) across. The rather [http://www.starwars.com/databank/location/coruscant/index.html Coruscant]-like shots of Cybertron in ''[[Beast Machines (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'' may be less distinctive or "Cybertronian", but are ''far'' more believable. (Some people reason that the Transformers' advanced technology, along with their large size and their not needing to breathe, means that buildings actually CAN be that big.)

Unicron is a more extreme problem. Assuming no [[size changing]] occurs during his transformation (and really, what possible reason would he have to become ''smaller''?), in robot mode he would be so massive that any shot featuring a recognizable ''part'' of his body, let alone the whole thing, would be on a scale such that no normal Transformer would even be visible. [[Image:UnicronEatsGalvyMmmm.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Either Galvy is humungo, or Lithone is tiiinyyy!!!]]Scenes in the [[The Transformers: The Movie|1986 movie]] in which he directly interacts with normal Cybertronians are blatantly absurd (though totally phat-looking). Shots such as the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] fleeing his grasping hand, a starship penetrating his eye, impaling [[Brainstorm]] on his fingernail, {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}} or ''especially'' him picking up Galvatron between his fingers before swallowing him, break any concept of "planetary" scale.

If Cybertron is the size of Earth's moon (and that's generous), and Unicron is about the size of Cybertron, his hands would be about the size of Europe and Galvatron (to the right) would be about the size of Denmark.

There is no explanation for any of this. Just go with it.

The depiction of Unicron's scale in ''[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' was (debatably) a slight improvement, in that physical interaction with normal beings was not attempted. He preferred instead to communicate with normal Transformers by possessing one of them. {{storylink|Sideways (RID)|Sideways}} Nevertheless, shots featuring [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]] and [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] standing on his neck are still ''farcically'' out of scale.

===Oversized alternate modes===
[[Image:RattrapLOVEScheetor.jpg|right|180px|thumb|I'm tellin' ya, all da rats in Brooklyn are dis big!]]
Much less common are instances of a Transformer turning into an overscaled real-world object. Most such instances occur in the ''Beast Wars'' era.

Although the Beast Warriors are consistent day-to-day in their relative size to each other, their scale in relation to their real-world animal equivalents is more complex. While the bug characters such as [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] and [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] are obviously scaled-up, other characters are more subtly not quite the right size.

[[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] and [[Tigatron]] are shown standing next to real members of their species, and they are both the same size as the animals in question. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 1)}} {{storylink|Law of the Jungle}} This makes them (and Cheetor in particular, since he's around more) the measuring sticks for the other characters. Therefore, [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] is a rather small rhinoceros, and [[Optimus Primal]] is a roughly normal (or female) gorilla. However [[Rattrap]] is a monstrously huge rat, the size of a large dog (indeed, the writers stated that Season 1 Rattrap was 5' (1.5 m) tall<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/8227a6ca84c0238d Bob Forward gives Rattrap's height from the show bible]</ref>). Likewise [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] is considerably larger than a real velociraptor. [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], however, is a tiny specimen of a T. Rex. In their interactions with adult [[protohuman]]s, the Transformer characters seem between twice and three times their height. Considering our ancestors really were smaller than modern humans, this is not extremely wrong, but it deserves noting.

However, thanks to the scaling up of the bug characters, it is relatively safe to assume that the Transformers scanned only animal ''forms'' and then rescaled them to fit their own size, which is actually slightly more believable than all other series, in which the Transformers use mass shifting to make their alt modes the ''right'' size.

===Artistic license===
====Variation for characterization====
[[Image:Prime has a huge head.jpg|left|150px|thumb|With 20th Anniversary Prime and Smallest Transformers Bumblebee, you can actually recreate this scene.]]
Some scale problems are for the sake of characterization. For example, Optimus Prime is routinely shown as thoroughly gargantuan, several stories in height, and capable of cradling humans in his palm. If he's the size of a real truck, Prime in robot mode should be 8–10 m (25'–30') tall, at best. He's drawn large because he's a leader character.

Conversely, [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] is sometimes shown only a few feet taller than an average human, while in reality he would be 3–5 m (10'–15') tall (the Marvel comic actually states he's 15' tall {{storylink|Plight of the Bumblebee!}}). He's drawn small because he's a human-friendly character, and a junior member of the Autobots.

With fighter jet alternate modes, the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] should be among the largest everyday Transformers and would ''tower'' over their Autobot adversaries; instead, the animation depicts characters such as [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] as about the same height. Though jets are much larger than cars, they're drawn the same height so the battles appear fair. (And also to make it easier to animate; blocking a shot where characters differ radically in height is difficult.)

In a related vein, sometimes Transformers are able to enter human buildings, fitting through their doors and running up their staircases without crashing through. {{storylink|B.O.T. (episode)|B.O.T.}} A cast that couldn't enter buildings would be grossly inconvenient for telling some stories, so the animators fudge things.

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====Intentionally strange scale====
[[Image:MarvelUS-01.jpg|right|200px|thumb|One side makes you larger, one side makes you small. (Op's been noshing on the first side too much.)]]
Sometimes artists draw a character at a different size [[Authorial intent|intentionally]]. For example, on the cover of the [[The Transformers (issue)|first issue]] of [[The Transformers (Marvel Comics)|the original ''Transformers'' comics series]], Optimus Prime is extremely huge compared to the highway, bridge, and normal cars. ([[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] is bigger than usual, too.) This is purely for dramatic effect.

Another notable example is the splash screen for the "[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/bible/index.html World of the TRANSFORMERS]" website, which depicts [[Optimus Primal]] (in his original gorilla body) as the same size as [[Optimus Prime (G1)|G1 Optimus Prime]] and [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Movie Optimus Prime]], directly contradicting the size difference seen in "[[Optimal Situation]]" and elsewhere (except for ''[[Robot Masters (franchise)|Robot Masters]]'').

Artwork for the [[:Image:VaderVsPrime.jpg|''Star Wars'']] subline features [[:Image:Megatronvsluke.jpg|humans from another galaxy]] standing at the same height as Transformers.

[[Image:World of the Transformers ent.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Meet the Supreme class Munky Optimus Primal.]]
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===The 2007 ''Transformers'' movie===
[[Image:Moviescale1.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Scale is absolutely not an issue in the movie. Riiight.]]
The creators of the [[Transformers (2007)|live-action movie]] took great pains to avoid out-of-scale issues. (Well, greater than previous franchises.) This is sometimes reflected in the choice of vehicle or the design of their robot mode. E.g., [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] is an extended-hood cab in order to have more mass with which to make a taller robot mode. [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]'s robot mode is nearly as wide as it is tall, with shorter, digitigrade legs, so the massive jet-former won't end up twice as tall as Optimus. In the case of [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]], his huge alternate mode simply results in a hulking, towering robot mode.

There are still minor scale issues to be found, though. For example, Optimus Prime can hold both [[Sam Witwicky|Sam]] and [[Mikaela Banes|Mikaela]] in one hand. Comparing this shot with when he picks up [[Archibald Witwicky]]'s glasses a few minutes later, it seems the glasses have lenses a foot (30cm) in diameter. This is a visual cheat so the glasses are visible to the audience. There's also debate about whether [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]]'s head could compact itself into a slim mobile phone. The [[Movie (toyline)|movie-franchise toys]], meanwhile, are only intermittently consistent (particularly since some of the secondary ones are redecos of toys from previous lines), with the largest contrast among the "primary" toys being between Deluxe Class [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]], a motorcycle, and Voyager Class Decepticons with helicopters as their [[Alternate mode|alternate modes]], such as [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] and [[Incinerator (Movie)|Incinerator]]. However, many of the wheeled vehicles are close to 1:35 scale, although Deluxe Class [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] and Classic Camaro [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys|Bumblebee]] are ''obviously'' not the same scale. Even more oddly, the vehicle modes of Classic Camaro Bumblebee and Concept Camaro Bumblebee are not the same scale, yet their robot heads are the same size (albeit different sculpts).

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==Official scale guides ==
[[Image:Tfcartoonscaleguideic1.jpg|left|180px|thumb|Official Scale Guides]]
[[Image:Beastwarsscalepreliminary.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Beast Wars Season 1 scale guide]]
Animators and comic book artists received official scale guides showing relative and (in some cases) absolute heights. Some of these were published in the character model guides ''[[The Ark: A Complete Compendium of Character Designs|The Ark]]'' and ''[[The Ark II — A Compendium of Japanese Character Designs|The Ark II]].'' Though they were sometimes ignored, they still give insight into the official scale of characters in Generation 1. However, even here, there are problems. Devastator in the Season One scale guide was approximately 2.5 times the height of Optimus Prime, but by Season Two he was somewhat less than twice Prime's height.

''Beast Wars'' likewise had an official scale guide, which appeared as a bonus on the DVD set of Season 2. Despite this guide, the series writers have indicated some measure of disregard for relative scale, when it suited the needs of dramatic tension.<ref>[http://builtstlouis.net/tf/manic/m-botcon.html BotCon 98 report - see "ON THE SIZES OF CHARACTERS"]</ref> Thus, Optimal Optimus is ''ungodly'' tall in his first appearance, later reduced to perhaps two times the height of the rest of the cast.

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==References==
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==External links==
*[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/6db411e03e75a342?dmode=source Estimated "real-life" heights for several Transformers, derived from the size of their alt-modes, archived from alt.toys.transformers on groups.google.com]

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Talk:Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)

2009-06-25T14:50:31Z

137.195.68.169: /* Mysterious voice credits */

Where's Chromia? She is confirmed! I added her why is she gone? And what about Ratchet? {{unsigned|Godziboy1993}}
:They haven't been "confirmed". They got stolen from factories in China. That is not an official confirmation. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:58, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

Ok, this is ridiculous. Yes it IS AN OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION. She was even in the god damn trailer! And why isn't Ratchet and Longhaul up on that either? Stolen from factories give me a break. Put them back on. [[User:Godziboy1993|Godziboy1993]] 21:55, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

Oh and Barricade is on there too. His toy was stolen from a factory. Why the hell not Chromia, Ratchet, and Longhaul.
:Because it is '''illegally acquired information'''. That simple. We'll add them once Roberto Orci confirms their presence, or Hasbro releases ''official photographs'' of the toys. To find out more, refer to [[Help:Official info]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:10, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

== Paramount pictures cast list. ==

[http://l.yimg.com/img.omg.yahoo.com/omg/us/img/83/a2/9019_3705651155.jpg?y=660&x=616&q=75&n=0&sig=Zvqw8NxIBWHyJFhaLEhOeQ-- This poster] looks like a pretty official cast list. FFN, you think it's dubious? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 06:50, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
:Well, for a Starter, Overload should be added to the list of constructicons. {{unsigned|GUIGUI|17:20, 2 April 2009 EDT}}
::I agree, they didn't pull that name out of the æther. But it might be premature to spell it "Longhaul", or move The Fallen to the Decepticon column, or move Jetfire to the Autobot column. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:31, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

I really do not understand how this is set up. Why is Demolisher a seperate character? Who is the 7th constructicon when only six are shown combining into Devastator?{{unsigned|Godziboy1993|19:36, 6 April 2009 EDT}}
:Who knows? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:40, 6 April 2009 (EDT)

== Japanese world premiere. ==

With the premiere in Japan, does that mean ROTF characters are <nowiki>[[Category:Japanese-original characters]]</nowiki>? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:50, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
:You'd better be joking. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:12, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

==Transmitter at official site==

What was the necessary stuff to log in again for the Transmitter? I can't remember if it was Derik or Detour that had posted up some things for it... Not that it's updated much. << >> --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:45, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

==How about an actual article?==
This thing is basically a list of info. Why isn't this a bit more organized, like on Wikipedia? And is the stuff about the Writers' Strike really neccesary? I'd edit it, but I do not appear to have that privilege. [[User:Jim Java|Jim Java]] 16:56, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
:Yes it's a list of info, because right now all we have is info. It's better than Wikipedia's page because it focuses on confirmed news only and not rumors, stolen toys and third-hand reports. Yes, the stuff about the Writer's Strike is necessary, since it did affect production of Revenge Of The Fallen. No, you can't edit it, because the page is protected on account of so many anonymous users and new users making additions based on rumors, stolen toys and third-hand reports. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:28, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

:In about a month and a half, this article will get a total top-to-bottom re-write, when... y'know... we see the movie. Till then, there's not a lot of point in dramatic changes; they'd just be swept away under the deluge of information that we'll have when the film is released.
:That said, I feel your pain. "Writer such-and-such has envisioned a storyline involving the Constructicons" seems like a ridiculous bit of information to have right upfront at this point in the game, when we've ''seen them in the trailer''. '''ETA:''' If you'd seriously like to have a go at cleaning it up, you could always set up a temp page somewhere. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:33, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

::At the same time, I don't really see the point of doing a page like the Wikipedia. We'll never be able to compete with them in terms of sheer information on things like production, and were are restricted by our rule of only using information that has been released by Hasbro/Takara, Dreamworks, Paramount and their partners (and they generally don't release much in the way of information). Besides, as I've understood this wiki, our focus is on the ''content of the fiction itself'' and ''the characters'' starring in it, which is what differentiates us from the Wikipedia. We're not really here to tell people about how the director of photography and camera personnel filmed the 2007 movie on a mechanical bull or something. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:06, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

Could we at least organize this in paragraph form? It wouldn't take very long, but it would look way better. Just thought I'd ask. [[User:Jim Java|Jim Java]] 20:50, 11 May 2009 (EDT)
:I don't think that would make the article better at all. The article as-is is a list of things. Making that list into a big block of text is not going to help anything. We don't need to pretend that this article isn't a list. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:18, 11 May 2009 (EDT)
::I'm gonna throw my hat in here and tell you to just wait. It's like Repowers said, give just over a month and the entire article will be totally redone top to bottom, just like you want Jim Java. Until then look at the Wikipedia article, I'm pretty sure they have it broken into paragraphs and make it an "actual article" as I'm sure you're insinuating.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:22, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

==UK Release 19th June = World Premiere==
As I write this the UK will be getting this a whole week before the States. So like, can we come and get started on the articles, or will there be Dubya-like emphasis on US civil (=Spoiler) liberties? [[Special:Contributions/82.7.126.27|82.7.126.27]] 12:58, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
:I figure it'll be okay if articles are filled out following the UK release. After all, most of Animated Season 2 aired a week early in Canada, and we still updated those pages even though they hadn't aired stateside yet. As long as media is officially released in a language we can understand (unlike that whole Dubai incident last year), it's fair game. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 01:40, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

== World premiere was today, June 8, in Japan ==

As the title says. Do we need a new, updated "No spoilers" disclaimer in this article and maybe also on the main page?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 16:35, 8 June 2009 (EDT)
:Yes and yes and then some. We should have heavy disclaimage on ALL the in-movie character pages, and also make them--as well as, obviously, this page itself--off-limits to anonymous editors. (Also, holy shit, am I actually editing on IE now? Miracle!) --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 16:47, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

==Score==
Should the score's info be added? Samples are up at [http://www.amazon.de/Transformers-Revenge-Fallen-Score/dp/B002DDIXLA/ref=sr_shvl_album_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1245109298&sr=301-2 Amazon Germany's listing]. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 20:04, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

== Bay wanted to have German soldiers in the movie, German government said "no" ==

Source: [http://newsticker.sueddeutsche.de/list/id/657558 Press conference from German premiere]

Translation:

:''Bundeswehr soldiers in the cinematic end fight between humans and alien machines: That's how Hollywood warhorse director Michael Bay ("Armageddon") had planned it for his action flick ''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen''.''

:''But German authorities threw a monkey wrench in his plans. The Bundeswehr soldiers at an Air Force base in the American desert state of New Mexico had been thrilled, "but unfortunately, the German government said no", the 44 year old director said at Sunday's German premiere of the science fiction flick. The cooperation with the US Department of Defense, on the other hand, hadn't been a problem - he had a direct connection there.''

Will probably work it into the article once we go from pre-release to full article.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:14, 16 June 2009 (EDT)

:What? Germany isn't allowed to -have- a military.{{unsigned|173.11.36.165|10:02, 24 June 2009}}
::You are [[wikipedia:Bundeswehr|mistaken]], sir.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 11:29, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

==Errors and Inconsistencies==
I've just seen the film. I'm not sure how the final ROTF page will look, but if the previous movie is used as a template, then I can suggest NOW that the Errors/Inconsistencies section be spawned off onto its own page? [[User:Drmick|Drmick]] 19:52, 20 June 2009 (EDT)
:Basic outline here: [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)/outline]]. Not sure when we should drop it in, but it should be soon. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:13, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

== Unnamed Decepticons ==

Do we have any way of getting names for the unnamed decepticons, like the Ravage hairballs seen in the trailer and comic-books? The movie's not going to help, as it was ''incredibly'' lax on providing names for characters.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 03:31, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

== Mysterious voice credits ==
Frank Welker is credited as "Reedman" along with Soundwave and Ravage, and Kevin Michael Richardson is both one of the Primes and "Skipjack". Do we know who these characters are? It doesn't help that both actors are known for Random Monster Noises roles. -[[User:LV|LV]] 03:53, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:Edit: I may mean Soundwave, Devastator and Reedman. The point is, Reedman: WTF? -[[User:LV|LV]] 04:06, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::I too saw those credits and wondered... but, I could also swear that I remember someone, maybe Ironhide, saying the name "Skipjack" aloud at one point in the film (at one of the base scenes, maybe?). For the life of me, though, I can't think of the context it was in. --
:::Did we happen to catch credits for Demolishor, Rampage, or any other growly-roary-types? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:24, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::::Devastator clearly said "DEVASTATOR!" during the big overhead shot of him slowly bearing down on the twins. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:37, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::I definitely interpreted that as Megatron shouting "DEVASTATOR!" at Devastator for no particular reason. As for Demolishor...he must have had a voice actor, since he had actual dialogue, but I don't recall seeing it. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:15, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::Yeah, I couldn't decide if the roar of "DEVASTATOR!" was Megatron, or if Devastator had decided to declare his own name for some reason (which wouldn't be ''that'' odd, given that Megatron did it in the first movie). - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:40, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::It sure sounded like Megatron's voice to me. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:16, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::I'm also with that Megatron's the one calling to Devastator. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 01:45, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::Surely he was calling to get Devastator to stop playing with the humans and come wreck up the pyramid? [[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 10:50, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

==It's UpGrade Time==
So, can we start working on this now or what? [[User:Eire]] 12.44 June 24 09
: Yes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:36, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

== Foreign titles ==

Are foreign titles usually included if they just mean "Revenge of The Fallen" in their own language? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:37, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
: They shouldn't be. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:45, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:: The frensh versin is called "transformers: the revenge"(le révange?)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 11:47, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::: That's different enough. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:48, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:::: The Brazilian title (Portuguese) renders as "The Revenge of the Defeated" when I put it through Google Translate. Is that different enough?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 12:35, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::::: Inasmuch as "defeated" doesn't have the same additional connotations of "falling from grace" or "killed in battle" as the original English, I'd say so.[[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 10:47, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

== Trivia cull ==

One is long overdue in my opinion. Much of this "trivia" is snippets of news on who was cast, and has since been unequivocally confirmed and properly organized in the locations it ''should'' be.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:33, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

Talk:Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)

2009-06-25T14:47:08Z

137.195.68.169: /* Foreign titles */

Where's Chromia? She is confirmed! I added her why is she gone? And what about Ratchet? {{unsigned|Godziboy1993}}
:They haven't been "confirmed". They got stolen from factories in China. That is not an official confirmation. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:58, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

Ok, this is ridiculous. Yes it IS AN OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION. She was even in the god damn trailer! And why isn't Ratchet and Longhaul up on that either? Stolen from factories give me a break. Put them back on. [[User:Godziboy1993|Godziboy1993]] 21:55, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

Oh and Barricade is on there too. His toy was stolen from a factory. Why the hell not Chromia, Ratchet, and Longhaul.
:Because it is '''illegally acquired information'''. That simple. We'll add them once Roberto Orci confirms their presence, or Hasbro releases ''official photographs'' of the toys. To find out more, refer to [[Help:Official info]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:10, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

== Paramount pictures cast list. ==

[http://l.yimg.com/img.omg.yahoo.com/omg/us/img/83/a2/9019_3705651155.jpg?y=660&x=616&q=75&n=0&sig=Zvqw8NxIBWHyJFhaLEhOeQ-- This poster] looks like a pretty official cast list. FFN, you think it's dubious? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 06:50, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
:Well, for a Starter, Overload should be added to the list of constructicons. {{unsigned|GUIGUI|17:20, 2 April 2009 EDT}}
::I agree, they didn't pull that name out of the æther. But it might be premature to spell it "Longhaul", or move The Fallen to the Decepticon column, or move Jetfire to the Autobot column. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:31, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

I really do not understand how this is set up. Why is Demolisher a seperate character? Who is the 7th constructicon when only six are shown combining into Devastator?{{unsigned|Godziboy1993|19:36, 6 April 2009 EDT}}
:Who knows? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:40, 6 April 2009 (EDT)

== Japanese world premiere. ==

With the premiere in Japan, does that mean ROTF characters are <nowiki>[[Category:Japanese-original characters]]</nowiki>? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:50, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
:You'd better be joking. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:12, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

==Transmitter at official site==

What was the necessary stuff to log in again for the Transmitter? I can't remember if it was Derik or Detour that had posted up some things for it... Not that it's updated much. << >> --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:45, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

==How about an actual article?==
This thing is basically a list of info. Why isn't this a bit more organized, like on Wikipedia? And is the stuff about the Writers' Strike really neccesary? I'd edit it, but I do not appear to have that privilege. [[User:Jim Java|Jim Java]] 16:56, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
:Yes it's a list of info, because right now all we have is info. It's better than Wikipedia's page because it focuses on confirmed news only and not rumors, stolen toys and third-hand reports. Yes, the stuff about the Writer's Strike is necessary, since it did affect production of Revenge Of The Fallen. No, you can't edit it, because the page is protected on account of so many anonymous users and new users making additions based on rumors, stolen toys and third-hand reports. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:28, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

:In about a month and a half, this article will get a total top-to-bottom re-write, when... y'know... we see the movie. Till then, there's not a lot of point in dramatic changes; they'd just be swept away under the deluge of information that we'll have when the film is released.
:That said, I feel your pain. "Writer such-and-such has envisioned a storyline involving the Constructicons" seems like a ridiculous bit of information to have right upfront at this point in the game, when we've ''seen them in the trailer''. '''ETA:''' If you'd seriously like to have a go at cleaning it up, you could always set up a temp page somewhere. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:33, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

::At the same time, I don't really see the point of doing a page like the Wikipedia. We'll never be able to compete with them in terms of sheer information on things like production, and were are restricted by our rule of only using information that has been released by Hasbro/Takara, Dreamworks, Paramount and their partners (and they generally don't release much in the way of information). Besides, as I've understood this wiki, our focus is on the ''content of the fiction itself'' and ''the characters'' starring in it, which is what differentiates us from the Wikipedia. We're not really here to tell people about how the director of photography and camera personnel filmed the 2007 movie on a mechanical bull or something. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:06, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

Could we at least organize this in paragraph form? It wouldn't take very long, but it would look way better. Just thought I'd ask. [[User:Jim Java|Jim Java]] 20:50, 11 May 2009 (EDT)
:I don't think that would make the article better at all. The article as-is is a list of things. Making that list into a big block of text is not going to help anything. We don't need to pretend that this article isn't a list. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:18, 11 May 2009 (EDT)
::I'm gonna throw my hat in here and tell you to just wait. It's like Repowers said, give just over a month and the entire article will be totally redone top to bottom, just like you want Jim Java. Until then look at the Wikipedia article, I'm pretty sure they have it broken into paragraphs and make it an "actual article" as I'm sure you're insinuating.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:22, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

==UK Release 19th June = World Premiere==
As I write this the UK will be getting this a whole week before the States. So like, can we come and get started on the articles, or will there be Dubya-like emphasis on US civil (=Spoiler) liberties? [[Special:Contributions/82.7.126.27|82.7.126.27]] 12:58, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
:I figure it'll be okay if articles are filled out following the UK release. After all, most of Animated Season 2 aired a week early in Canada, and we still updated those pages even though they hadn't aired stateside yet. As long as media is officially released in a language we can understand (unlike that whole Dubai incident last year), it's fair game. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 01:40, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

== World premiere was today, June 8, in Japan ==

As the title says. Do we need a new, updated "No spoilers" disclaimer in this article and maybe also on the main page?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 16:35, 8 June 2009 (EDT)
:Yes and yes and then some. We should have heavy disclaimage on ALL the in-movie character pages, and also make them--as well as, obviously, this page itself--off-limits to anonymous editors. (Also, holy shit, am I actually editing on IE now? Miracle!) --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 16:47, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

==Score==
Should the score's info be added? Samples are up at [http://www.amazon.de/Transformers-Revenge-Fallen-Score/dp/B002DDIXLA/ref=sr_shvl_album_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1245109298&sr=301-2 Amazon Germany's listing]. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 20:04, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

== Bay wanted to have German soldiers in the movie, German government said "no" ==

Source: [http://newsticker.sueddeutsche.de/list/id/657558 Press conference from German premiere]

Translation:

:''Bundeswehr soldiers in the cinematic end fight between humans and alien machines: That's how Hollywood warhorse director Michael Bay ("Armageddon") had planned it for his action flick ''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen''.''

:''But German authorities threw a monkey wrench in his plans. The Bundeswehr soldiers at an Air Force base in the American desert state of New Mexico had been thrilled, "but unfortunately, the German government said no", the 44 year old director said at Sunday's German premiere of the science fiction flick. The cooperation with the US Department of Defense, on the other hand, hadn't been a problem - he had a direct connection there.''

Will probably work it into the article once we go from pre-release to full article.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:14, 16 June 2009 (EDT)

:What? Germany isn't allowed to -have- a military.{{unsigned|173.11.36.165|10:02, 24 June 2009}}
::You are [[wikipedia:Bundeswehr|mistaken]], sir.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 11:29, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

==Errors and Inconsistencies==
I've just seen the film. I'm not sure how the final ROTF page will look, but if the previous movie is used as a template, then I can suggest NOW that the Errors/Inconsistencies section be spawned off onto its own page? [[User:Drmick|Drmick]] 19:52, 20 June 2009 (EDT)
:Basic outline here: [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)/outline]]. Not sure when we should drop it in, but it should be soon. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:13, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

== Unnamed Decepticons ==

Do we have any way of getting names for the unnamed decepticons, like the Ravage hairballs seen in the trailer and comic-books? The movie's not going to help, as it was ''incredibly'' lax on providing names for characters.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 03:31, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

== Mysterious voice credits ==
Frank Welker is credited as "Reedman" along with Soundwave and Ravage, and Kevin Michael Richardson is both one of the Primes and "Skipjack". Do we know who these characters are? It doesn't help that both actors are known for Random Monster Noises roles. -[[User:LV|LV]] 03:53, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:Edit: I may mean Soundwave, Devastator and Reedman. The point is, Reedman: WTF? -[[User:LV|LV]] 04:06, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::I too saw those credits and wondered... but, I could also swear that I remember someone, maybe Ironhide, saying the name "Skipjack" aloud at one point in the film (at one of the base scenes, maybe?). For the life of me, though, I can't think of the context it was in. --
:::Did we happen to catch credits for Demolishor, Rampage, or any other growly-roary-types? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:24, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::::Devastator clearly said "DEVASTATOR!" during the big overhead shot of him slowly bearing down on the twins. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:37, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::I definitely interpreted that as Megatron shouting "DEVASTATOR!" at Devastator for no particular reason. As for Demolishor...he must have had a voice actor, since he had actual dialogue, but I don't recall seeing it. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:15, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::Yeah, I couldn't decide if the roar of "DEVASTATOR!" was Megatron, or if Devastator had decided to declare his own name for some reason (which wouldn't be ''that'' odd, given that Megatron did it in the first movie). - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:40, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::It sure sounded like Megatron's voice to me. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:16, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::I'm also with that Megatron's the one calling to Devastator. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 01:45, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

==It's UpGrade Time==
So, can we start working on this now or what? [[User:Eire]] 12.44 June 24 09
: Yes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:36, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

== Foreign titles ==

Are foreign titles usually included if they just mean "Revenge of The Fallen" in their own language? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:37, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
: They shouldn't be. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:45, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:: The frensh versin is called "transformers: the revenge"(le révange?)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 11:47, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::: That's different enough. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:48, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:::: The Brazilian title (Portuguese) renders as "The Revenge of the Defeated" when I put it through Google Translate. Is that different enough?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 12:35, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::::: Inasmuch as "defeated" doesn't have the same additional connotations of "falling from grace" or "killed in battle" as the original English, I'd say so.[[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 10:47, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

== Trivia cull ==

One is long overdue in my opinion. Much of this "trivia" is snippets of news on who was cast, and has since been unequivocally confirmed and properly organized in the locations it ''should'' be.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:33, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)

2009-06-24T16:43:24Z

137.195.68.169: /* Short synopsis */ Worth a shot, fills the gap.

{{nav-rotf}}
'''''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen''''' is the first of two planned sequels to ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]''. It was released in the United States on [[June 24]], 2009.

{{quote|Revenge is mine!|The Fallen, ''[[Revenge of the Fallen]]''}}

:''Japanese title:'' '''''Transformers Revenge'''''<ref>[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/movie.html ''Transformers'' movie section at TakaraTomy's website]</ref>

:''French title:'' '''''Transformers 2: The Revenge''''' (''Transformers 2: La Revanche'')


==Main cast==
{{spoiler|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|July 24, 2009}}

{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] ([[Grey DeLisle]])
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] ([[Jess Harnell]])
*[[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]]
*[[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] ([[Reno Wilson]])
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] ([[Robert Foxworth]])
*[[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]] ([[André Sogliuzzo]])
*[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] ([[Tom Kenny]])
|c2=
*[[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]]
*[[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] ([[Mark Ryan]])
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] ([[Hugo Weaving]])
*[[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] <ref name="IGNJan2009"/>
*[[Scalpel]] ([[John Di Crosta]])
*[[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]]
*[[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]
*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] ([[Frank Welker]])
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] ([[Charlie Adler]])
*[[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] ([[Tom Kenny]])
*[[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]]s
**[[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] ([[Frank Welker]])
**[[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]]
**[[Hightower (ROTF)|Hightower]]
**[[Long Haul (ROTF)|Long Haul]]
**[[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]]
**[[Overload (ROTF)|Overload]]
**[[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]]
**[[Scrapper (ROTF)|Scrapper]]
**[[Scavenger (ROTF)|Scavenger]]
*[[Alice]] ([[Isabel Lucas]])
*[[The Fallen]] ([[Tony Todd]])
|c3=
*[[Mikaela Banes]] ([[Megan Fox]])
*[[Robert Epps]] ([[Tyrese Gibson]])
*[[Theodore Galloway]] ([[John Benjamin Hickey]])
*Graham, British Special Forces soldier ([[Matthew Marsden]])
*[[William Lennox]] ([[Josh Duhamel]])
*General Morshower ([[Glenn Morshower]])
*Professor ([[Rainn Wilson]])
*[[Seymour Simmons]] ([[John Turturro]])
*[[Leo Spitz]] <ref name="MTV Ramon Isabel"/> ([[Ramon Rodriguez]])
*[[Judy Witwicky]] ([[Julie White]])
*[[Ron Witwicky]] ([[Kevin Dunn]])
*[[Sam Witwicky]] ([[Shia LaBeouf]])
}}

==Technical details==

==Short synopsis==
[[Image:ROTFteaserposter.jpg|right|250px|thumb|For dry, red eyes, the difference is clear: Clear Eyes.]]

The Autobots have found a home in "NEST", a secret military unit created to seek out and eliminate the remaining Decepticons. All is not well, however. Unbeknownst to them, Soundwave is in orbit, coordinating the Decepticon counterstrike. After Ravage steals the Allspark shard from NEST, a team of Constructicons and The Doctor journey to the bottom of the ocean and use it revive Megatron. The Decepticon leader journeys to the crashed Nemesis, rebukes Starscream, and meets with his master, The Fallen.

The Fallen explains that he had constructed a Solar Harvester on Earth, in violation of the Primes' code to never harm an inhabited planet. The Primes turned on him, banished and imprisoned him. However the Harvester still stands, and only one Prime remains. If Megatron destroys Optimus Prime, The Fallen will be freed to activate the Harvester, which will kill off the humans and provide the Decepticons with enough energon to raise an army. Megatron eagerly agrees, and returns to Earth with a vengeance.

It transpires that the location of the Harvester is hidden within Sam Witwicky, who absorbed the knowledge from another Allspark fragment. The Decepticons begin an all-out war across the Earth as they hunt down the human, and the Autobots and NEST are blamed for the ensuing carnage. Witwicky goes to ground, and must turn to unlikely allies in the race to find a solution. Ultimately, the last of the Primes defeats The Fallen, destroys the Harvester, and proves the Transformers' greatest power is found in their unexpectedly-ancient alliance with the humans.

==Full synopsis==

==Quotes==

==Production staff==
===Visual effects===
===Locations department===

==Other editions==

==Prequel material==
===Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comics===
While the Decepticons were disgusted with the pro-Autobot propaganda of Bay's first documentary {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 13|#13's Star Screams}}, they're quite optimistic about the second film. [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] has taken a strong interest in it, going to the trouble of personally convincing [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] to be in the film {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 15|15's Star Screams}}.

The Decepticons promise this new documentary will show a glorious Decepticon victory {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 10|#10's Star Screams}} - whether it's in the script or not. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 18|#18's Star Screams}}

Shockingly, even ''they'' are under a non-disclosure agreement regarding the script; Starscream fearfully refers to a greater power keeping him quiet. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 22|#22's Star Screams}} Talking about it could even undermine the Decepticon war effort! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|#23's Star Screams}}

In the same week the film came out, the Decepticons suddenly became unhappy with it and the detente period ended. Bay, Kurtzman, and Orci are once again marked for extermination for their propaganda films. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.1|#1's Law and Disorder}}

==Adaptations==
:''Main article:'' [[Revenge of the Fallen Movie Adaptation]]
{{main|Revenge of the Fallen (novel)}}

==Sequels==

==Soundtrack==
:''Main article:'' [[Revenge of the Fallen: The Soundtrack]]

==Score==
:''Main article:'' [[Revenge of the Fallen: The Score]]

==DVD release==

==Theatrical posters==

==Reception==

==Trivia==
*The official title of the film is ''Revenge of the Fallen'' (with a lower-case "t" in "the") even though it is apparently referring to [[The Fallen]] (with a capital "T" in "The").

==Transformers references==

==Development details==

===Old pre-movie confirmed news list===

{{bigquote|Because ‘Transformers 2′ sounds stupid.|[[Roberto Orci]]|[http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/07/24/writers-reveal-theme-of-transformers-sequel-the-bad-news-no-dinobots/ MTV Movieblog] [[July 24]],[[2008]]}}

Current information includes:

* Early in production, Producer [[Tom DeSanto]] said he envisioned a storyline introducing the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]]s.<ref>[http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4663&Itemid=99 IESB Exclusive: Transformers 2 Character Breakdowns Plus New Decepticons!]</ref>
* Writers [[Roberto Orci]] and [[Alex Kurtzman]] recruited [[Ehren Kruger]] to help them write the screenplay. [[Michael Bay]] and producers [[Don Murphy]], [[Tom DeSanto]], and [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]] are also returning.<ref>[http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6372 Transformers 2 Writers Confirmed]</ref>
* The producers expect that with a bigger budget and the special effects worked out, the Transformers will have a larger role and more screen time.{{fact}}
* According to the 2008 ShoWest edition of Dolby News, the film will be in 3-D.<ref>[http://www.comics2film.com/index.php?a=story&b=33214 'Tintin', 'Transformers 2' getting 3D release]</ref>
* Michael Bay has claimed that the studio is putting out deliberate misinformation, to obscure real leaks.<ref>[http://io9.com/382919/michael-bay-plays-internet-punkd Michael Bay Plays Internet Punk'd]</ref> (Like our jobs weren't hard enough.)
*A key character will return and "attempt to settle a score".<ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/default.cfm?page=News/Item&newsid=59522272-D56F-E112-4C783175A8BBBAD6 Confirmation by Hasbro.]</ref>
* Roberto Orci confirmed that there is no '2' in the title of the sequel.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showpost.php?p=2173364&postcount=7 Roberto Orci at TFW2005.com]</ref>
* [[Aaron Hill]] is confirmed to play a supporting in the film.<ref>[http://www.aaronhill.biz/news.htm Aaron Hill confirms his role at his site]</ref>
* During San Diego Comic-Con 2008, in an interview on July 25th, [[Simon Furman]] claimed that the film would feature a character called [[The Fallen]], which was a character they created for [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]]'s ''[[The War Within: The Dark Ages]]''<ref>[http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17412 Simon Furman confirms The Fallen is a character in an interview with Comic Book Resources]</ref> Three days later, [[IDW Publishing]] writer [[Chris Mowry]] corroborated the claim in an interview with MTV Splash Page, calling "The Fallen" the main villain of ''Revenge'' ([[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] was also confirmed in the same interview, but the reference to her was mysteriously removed shortly after publication). <ref>[http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/07/28/exclusive-transformers-2-prequel-comic-gives-inside-scoop-on-2009-movie/ MTV Splash Page interviews Chris Mowry]</ref> Less than a week after this, however, Michael Bay reiterated that everything leaked thus far is part of their misinformation campaign and that only a handful of people involved with the production of ''Revenge'' have seen the script, contradicting IDW's interviews where their representatives confirm that they have the script. Additionally, Bay claimed the only truth about the film was Sam going to college.<ref>[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44729&postcount=2 A post made by Michael Bay on his forum]</ref> Curiously, on August 5th 2008, after a fan posted on Michael Bay's forum pointing out the contradiction, all references to the Fallen were removed from the aforementioned interviews, as well as any references to IDW Publishing having the script.
* When questioned about whether the Transformers would have more flat surfaces and have less internal machinery exposed compared to the designs from the first movie, Roberto Orci answered with an emphatic "YES".<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/2317044-post773.html Roberto Orci at TFW2005.com]</ref>
* An official behind-the-scenes video from the first day of shooting (June 2, 2008) at the former steel plant in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania was posted on Wal-Mart's public website in early September of 2008. The video shows police cars with Chinese markings, [[Josh Duhamel]] and [[Tyrese Gibson]] shooting an action sequence together with other actors and extras dressed as soldiers, and an Audi R8 being chased by three differently-colored motorcycles, all three of them equipped with drivers wearing the same outfit.<ref name="walmart">[http://www.walmart.com/transformers Wal-Mart promo site with exclusive videos], access code is "AllSpark 62609".</ref>
* In an interview with BANG! Showbiz, Shia LeBouf stated that the injuries he suffered in his recent vehicular collision were written into the script and did not adversely affect the filming schedule.<ref name="TheList2008">[http://www.list.co.uk/article/10788-shia-labeoufs-transformers-hand/ The List 1 August 2008]</ref>
* A December 29, 2008 ''USA Today'' article on ''Revenge'' detailed parts of the plot as well as confirming some Transformer cast members.<ref name="USAToday2008">[http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2008-12-28-transformers-side_N.htm USA Today December 29, 2008]</ref>
* ''Empire'' magazine's February 2009 issue features information on the role of the Egyptian Pyramids in the Movieverse's backstory. Michael Bay also confirmed The Fallen and denied Megatron would be resurrected (this later turned out to be untrue). Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics resembling helicopters will be revealed to be depictions of Transformers who visited Earth before the pyramids were built.<ref name="EmpireFeb2009">''Empire'' article entitled "20 to watch in 2009", written by Nick de Semelyn, dated February 2009, pages 68 and 69, issue 236</ref>
* On January 14, 2009, Roberto Orci confirmed in an interview with IGN at the Television Critics Association press tour that [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] would be a character in the film, and added that there is a [[Pretender]].<ref name="IGNJan2009">[http://au.movies.ign.com/articles/944/944836p1.html IGN January 14, 2009 "Transformers 2 Rumor Confirmed"]</ref>
* On January 29, 2009, [[Activision]]'s website for the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' video game adaptation came online and revealed the robot modes of two new characters (later revealed to be [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]). However, this activation of the website appears to have been in error, as the site was taken offline hours later, with Activision requesting fan sites remove images of the characters.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/activision-transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-site-live---chevy-beat-and-trax-robot-modes-revealed-166703/ Trax and Beat revealed thread at TFW2005.com (Images Removed at Activision's request)]</ref>
* Also on January 29, 2009, Simon Furman commented on MTV Movie Blog about how the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] wouldn't fit very well into the movie's universe, and that he is glad they were dropped from the cast very early in development.<ref>[http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/01/29/no-dinobots-in-transformers-2-revenge-of-the-fallen-original-film-consultant-explains-why/ MTV Movie Blog interview with Simon Furman, January 29, 2009.]</ref>
* On February 1, 2009, the first official trailer for the movie was aired during Super Bowl XLIII.<ref name="Superbowltvspot">[http://www.transformersmovie.com Revenge of the Fallen Super Bowl spot at the official Revenge of the Fallen website] and [http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/transformers-2/super-bowl-spot TrailerAddict]</ref>
* Michael Bay stated in interview with ''The Collider'' the he obtained permission to film in Egypt by contacting [[Zahi Hawass]], secretary general of Egypt's council of antiquities, who turned out to be a fan of the 2007 ''Transformers'' movie.<ref>[http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/10866/tcid/1 The Collider article and video interview with Michael Bay, February 9, 2009]</ref>
* In the issue 140 February of ''Toyfare'' magazine, producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura confirmed that the Fallen is one of the [[Thirteen original Transformers]], likening the 13 to "apostles" and claiming the schism between Autobots and Decepticons to have been the Fallen's responsibility. He also stated that Devastator would be over 100 feet tall.<ref>Toyfare issue 140, February, 2009. [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/218756-toyfare-140-rotf-coverage.html Summary at TFW2005.com]</ref>
* During the Chicago Auto Show 2009, [[General Motors]]/[[Chevrolet]] issued a press releasing identifying several new Autobot characters who turned into various Chevy concept cars, including Sideswipe, Skids, Mudflap and Jolt. The press release also confirmed the return of [[John Turturro]] and [[Glenn Morshower]], and revealed new cast member [[John Benjamin Hickey]]. <ref name="Chicago Auto Show 2009">[http://media.gm.com/us/gm/en/news/events/autoshows/09chicago/brands/transformers.htm General Motors/Chevrolet Chicago Auto Show 2009 Press Release]</ref>
* Hasbro unveiled the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline at the New York Toy Fair 2009 on February 14. Among the (officially) revealed were the Devastator and Constructicon toys, as well as the robot forms of Sideswipe, Mudflap and Skids.<ref name="Toyfair2009">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys--products-30/revenge-of-the-fallen-bumblebee-voice-changer-helmet---toyfair-2009-press-release-166806/ Hasbro Toyfair 2009 press release at TFW2005.com], and [http://toyfair09.asmzine.com/gallery/hasbro/hasbro-tf-press-kit/index.html Hasbro official stock image gallery at ASM]</ref>
* On February 16, the full teaser trailer that was released online, revealing the return of [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]].<ref name="teasertrailer">[http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809943432/video/12063123 Full teaser trailer at Yahoo! movies]</ref>
* Later that same day, official in package stock photos revealed the name of the Audi R8 Decepticon seen in the trailers to be Sideways. <ref name="Sideways">[http://tformers.com/transformers-official-shots-of-revenge-of-the-fallen-sideways-audi-r8-gets-a-name/11000/news.html Audi R8's packaging revealed through official packaging shots at Tformers]</ref>
* After a short and poorly excuted "misinformation campaign" on the part of Michael Bay, Paramount and their licensees where they claimed that Megatron was not in the movie despite all ''officially released'' evidence to the contrary (including Megatron's brief appearance in the February 1 Superbowl tv spot and the February teaser trailer), Roberto Orci confirmed that Megatron does indeed return.<ref name="Megatron returns">[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-211.html#post3333713 Roberto Orci confirms Megatron's return on TFW2005.com - February 22, 2009]</ref>
* On March 4, 2009, [[Hugo Weaving]] revealed he would be returning as Megatron in ''Revenge of the Fallen'' and in fact had already recorded his dialogue. When asked of how Megatron would be resurrected, Weaving kept mum, but pointed out that Optimus Prime took a surviving sliver of the [[All Spark]] out of Megatron's chest in the previous movie.<ref name="Hugo Weaving">[http://blogs.news.com.au/adelaidenow/turkeyshoot/index.php/adelaidenow/comments/weaving_confirms_megatrons_return_in_transformers_revenge_of_the_fallen AdelaideNow blog report on Weaving's return to ''Transformers'' - March 4, 2009.]</ref>
* On March 6, due to the reports of Weaving's return, Michael Bay finally admitted Megatron was back, but claimed that Megatron would only appear briefly in a flashback to the past, despite the fact Megatron can be seen pinning Sam Witwicky to the ground in ''Revenge's'' tv spot and teaser trailer. One can assume that the director was trying to salvage some form of audience surprise in seeing Megatron return in the movie. In other news of a presumably legitimate kind, Bay said that the movie would go into the distant past and explain the history of the [[Prime]]s.<ref>[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=66825&postcount=4 Michael Bay on his forum - March 6, 2009]</ref>
* Shortly after an [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/interviews-27/tfw2005-interviews-frank-welker-part-1-of-2-167015/ interview] with voice actor [[Frank Welker]] was posted on fan site TFW2005.com, in which he revealed he had not been contacted by the film crew for a part, Bay made a post on his forum that he was now interested in casting Welker as [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]]<ref>[http://www.michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/soundwave-w.html Micheal Bay.com news blog - March 10, 2009]</ref>
* On March 22, Roberto Orci responded to a fan's questioning regarding the idea of casting [[Leonard Nimoy]] as The Fallen by stating that he had actually mentioned it with Nimoy, but fan outcry has also given Frank Welker consideration. <ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/224468-roberto-orci-leonard-nimoy-frank-welker-both-running-voicing-fallen.html Roberto Orci on TFW2005.com, March 22, 2009]</ref>
* In an interview with Sci Fi Wire on March 31st, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman said they had looked through the comics and cartoons for the "most elemental bad guy" that "jumped off the material" and found that in the Fallen. They also stated that due to production necessities (Hasbro and Bay needing characters for scenes and design to begin as soon as possible) and the 2008-2009 Writers Strike, some characters were in their initial treatment while others were designed specifically for the movie production, and that due to the overall numbers of robots, the audience would not get to know all of the Transformers closely. Indeed, Orci and Kurtzman referred to some characters via descriptors such "Volt" (Jolt) and "Wheelbot" (Demolishor). They also confirmed that Nimoy was open to playing the Fallen if the role was offered, and that they were in the middle of hashing it out with Frank Welker over a role in the movie, but the final decision was down to Bay.<ref name="scifiwireMarch2009">[http://scifiwire.com/2009/03/orci-kurtzman-reveal-tran.php SciFi Wire March 2009 interview with Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman]</ref>
* A USA Today article on April 1, 2009 added a heap of confusion by stating that there are ''seven'' Constructicons (including a new character named Overload), referred to Demolishor and "Scavenger" separately; and commented that [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] was the only female Autobot, even though there are a total of three very similar feminine motorcycle characters in the film and [[Alliance issue 4|supporting fiction]]. In news of a presumably correct sort, the article also revealed details about Ravage (he would have a skill set not seen before, will not turn into anything and will not talk); Jetfire (doesn't transform very well due to age, knows the Decepticons' plans but forgets parts of it); The Fallen (Transformers version of Lucifer, defiance and arrogance led to his banishment into another dimension, holds the key to life on Earth and Cybertron), Devastator (made [[Steven Spielberg]] curse in appreciation); confirmed [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] and finally, revealed the new insect-like creature referred to as "The Doctor". <ref name="USATodayApril2009">[http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2009-04-01-transformers-first-look_N.htm Various characters revealed on USA Today, April 1, 2009.]</ref>
* On the same day, Yahoo Movies featured a list of the Autobots and Decepticons, repeating much of the same basic information featured in the USA today article, including the same confusing information about the Constructicons (7 members form Devastator, 8 members in total, Demolishor and Scavenger referred to as separate characters) and finally officially revealed the return of [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]]. The article also had a new still of Ravage and a rather dodgy-looking chart listing the names of all the robot chracters. <ref name="YahooMoviesApril">[http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/need-to-know-transformers-robots.html Yahoo Movies Transformers cast list, April 1, 2009.]</ref>
* On April 16, Michael Bay reported on his forum that Steven Spielberg had just seen his cut of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' and had praised it as being "awesome" and better than the previous ''Transformers'' movie. Bay also revealed that the full trailer had just been completed and will be attached to ''[[Wolverine|X-Men Origins: Wolverine]]'', coming out on May 1.<ref>[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4286 Michael Bay on his forums, April 16, 2009.]</ref>
* On April 17, actor [[Tony Todd]]'s website revealed that he would be voicing an as-yet unnamed character in ''Revenge''.<ref name="TonyTodd">[http://theofficialtonytodd.com/news.php Announcement on Tony Todd's website]</ref>
* Soon after, footage of ''Revenge'' that was shown to the press at ShoWest 2009 was released online by Michael Bay's staff... and then swiftly removed. An unexpected revelation was the ''apparent'' return of [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]], despite his death in the previous movie. <ref name="showest2009">[http://vimeo.com/4208071 ''Revenge of the Fallen'' ShoWest footage on Vimeo.com UPDATE - now removed]</ref> A few days later, Michael Bay explained that the fơotage was only supposed to be online for 12 hours, and confirmed the CGI was far from complete. Bay also reported that the trailer was being printed and will be included with ''Wolverine'' and ''Star Trek''.<ref>[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=76997#post76997 Michael Bay on his forum, April 21, 2009]</ref>
* Actors Ramon Rodriguez and Isabel Lucas revealed some details about their characters in an interview with MTV.com on April 21, 2009. <ref name="MTV Ramon Isabel">[http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1609632/story.jhtml MTV interview of Ramon Rodriguez and Isabel Lucas, April 21, 2009.]</ref>
* On the MTV Movies blog, Michael Bay reported that they were still doing for the voices for the film, and that he was (jokingly) nervous of asking his relative Leonard Nimoy if he wanted to voice The Fallen in the movie for fear of offending him with the relatively low pay allotted to voice actors.<ref>[http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/04/21/michael-bay-afraid-to-offend-leonard-nimoy-with-transformers-family-reunion-offer/ ''Michael Bay Afraid To Offend Leonard Nimoy With ‘Transformers’ Family Reunion Offer'', MTV.com Movies blog, April 21, 2009]</ref>
* The World Premiere of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' will be held at TOHO Cinemas Roppongi Hills, in [[Tokyo]], [[Japan]] on June 8th, 2009, with Michael Bay, Shia LaBeouf and Megan Fox attending. <ref>[http://eiga.com/buzz/20090423/1 Japanese premiere information at Eiga.com, April 23, 2009. (In Japanese)]</ref>
* During an interview for UGO Movie Blog, Roberto Orci confirmed that he thinks that it is official that Frank Welker will be voicing Soundwave. <ref name="UGO Welker">[http://movieblog.ugo.com/movies/roberto-orci-frank-welker-to-officially-voice-soundwave UGO.com Movie Blog confirmation that Frank Welker will play Soundwave, April 27, 2009]</ref>
* On April 30, the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' theatrical trailer was officially released online at Yahoo! Movies. <ref>[http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809943432/trailer ''Revenge of the Fallen'' theatrical trailer at Yahoo! Movies]</ref>
* [[Linkin Park]] and Hans Zimmer will be working with Steve Jablonsky on the score of the movie. Linkin Park also announced they were writing a song, called "New Divide". It will be one of the theme songs for the movie, and will be doing several interpretations on that theme. <ref>[http://www.mikeshinoba.com/blog/special_events-recommended_music-in_the_studio-featured-linkin_park_/transformers_2_new_linkin_park_song_and_score]</ref>
* On May 13, Glenn Morshower spoke about his role in ''Revenge'' with IGN.com, stating that even though [[Colonel Sharp|his character]] in the 2007 ''Transformers'' movie had been killed, he was asked by Michael Bay to return for the sequel to play a new character named after him. <ref name="MorshowerIGN">[http://movies.ign.com/articles/982/982686p1.html IGN talks to Glenn Morshower about his role in ''Revenge of the Fallen'']</ref>
* On May 18, three ''Revenge'' TV spots were aired on North American television. Michael Bay's web staff later uploaded them onto Vimeo.com. <ref>[http://vimeo.com/4719904 "It's On..." TV spot at Vimeo.com]</ref> <ref>[http://vimeo.com/4719776 "Greatest Enemy" TV spot on Vimeo.com]</ref> <ref>[http://vimeo.com/4719348 "Forms" TV spot at Vimdeo.com]</ref>
* That same day, Linkin Park's new single, "New Divide", was released exclusively on iTunes.
* In a chat with the LA Times "Hero Complex" blog on May 21, Michael Bay revealed that [[Tom Kenny]] has a voice role in ''Revenge'', and that [[Rainn Wilson]]'s character was based upon a film instructor at his alma mater of Wesleyan University. <ref>[http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2009/05/michael-bay-shows-us-transformer-2-footage-and-talks-about-shia-labeoufs-dark-moods.html Michael Bay talks to LA Times Hero Complex blog - May 21, 2009]</ref>
* In a June 22nd article in Forbes (released online on June 4th), Michael Bay talked about his philosphy in movie-making, his demand of part-ownership of movies he makes, and the revelation that he receives an 8% cut of all toy sales from the ''Transformers'' movies.<ref>[http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0622/celebrity-09-transformers-michael-bay-making-movies-enemies-money.html Michael Bay article on Forbes.com June 4, 2009]</ref>
* On June 8th, 2009, the movie had its world premiere in Japan. Michael Bay, Shia LaBeouf, Megan Fox, Josh Duhamel, Tyrese Gibson, Isabel Lucas and Ramon Rodriguez attended.<ref>[http://www.michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/47a23fdbb6ddc8ece6a0a6c87ccc2bbe-499.html Japanese Premiere photos at Michael Bay.com, June 8, 2009]</ref>. Other countries such as South Korea<ref>[http://www.michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/f7a7af7e754cfa877a635b95d8908eea-506.html Korean Premiere photos at Michael Bay.com, June 9, 2009]</ref>, the United Kingdom and Germany followed over the course of the next few days.

===''Transformers'' sequel and the 2007-2008 Writers Strike===
In late 2007, during preproduction for then-untitled ''Transformers'' sequel, the [[wikipedia:2007–2008 Writers Guild of America strike|Writers Guild of America went on strike]]. At the time, Roberto Orci stated that the strike could likely delay ''Transformers 2's'' release. However, Michael Bay refuted this, claiming the movie was still on schedule.<ref>[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6200#post6200 Robert Orci discusses the strike & TF2]</ref> The reason behind Bay's confidence was discovered by Orci shortly after the strike ended. The director had apparently taken the outline the writers had handed in the night before the strike, and begun movie prep based on it.<ref>[http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showthread.php?t=24357&page=4 Don Murphy message board - Orci on the aftermath of the strike]</ref>

==Errors==
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==External links==
*[http://www.transformersmovie.com Dreamworks/Paramount's ''Transformers'' Movie website]
*[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/ Hasbro's ''Transformers'' homepage]
*[http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/10866/tcid/1 Interview with Michael Bay 02/09/2009] — Collider.com

==References==
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Alex Kurtzman

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'''Alex Kurtzman''' (born September 7, 1973) is an American film and television producer and screenwriter. Together with his friend and writing partner [[Roberto Orci]], he has written several high-profile motion pictures recently, including ''The Island'' (which was directed by [[Michael Bay]]), as well as J.J Abram's ''Mission Impossible 3'', and the eleventh ''Star Trek'' movie featuring [[Leonard Nimoy|Galvatron]].

===Writer===
* [[Transformers (2007)]] (together with Roberto Orci)
* [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]] (together with Orci and [[Ehren Kruger]])

==External links==
* [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0476064/ Alex Kurtzman at the Internet Movie Database]

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Alex Kurtzman

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'''Alex Kurtzman''' (born September 7, 1973) is an American film and television producer and screenwriter. Together with his friend and writing partner [[Roberto Orci]], he has written several high-profile motion pictures recently, including ''The Island'' (which was directed by [[Michael Bay]]), as well as J.J Abram's ''Mission Impossible 3'', and the eleventh ''Star Trek'' movie featuring [[Galvatron]].

===Writer===
* [[Transformers (2007)]] (together with Roberto Orci)
* [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]] (together with Orci and [[Ehren Kruger]])

==External links==
* [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0476064/ Alex Kurtzman at the Internet Movie Database]

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Leonard Nimoy

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[[Image:LeonardNimoy.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Bilbo! Bilbo! Bilbo Baggins - The bravest little hobbit of them all!]]
'''Leonard Nimoy''' (March 26, 1931-) is an American actor and director. He provided the voice of [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] in ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''.

Oh, and apparently he also played [[wikipedia:Spock|an alien]] on [[wikipedia:Star Trek|some old sci-fi show]], alongside fellow ''Transformers'' voice actor [[George Takei]].

==Trivia==
*Nimoy is married to Susan Bay, a relative of director [[Michael Bay]], and apparently it was due to their considerable donations to [[Griffith Observatory]] that Michael was allowed to film parts of ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'' there.<ref>According to Michael Bay on the ''Transformers'' DVD commentary.</ref>
*Nimoy guest starred in the first-season finale of ''Fringe'', which was created, executive-produced and written by [[Alex Kurtzman]] and [[Roberto Orci]].

==References==
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==External Links==
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000559/ Leonard Nimoy at the Internet Movie Database]
*[http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Leonard_Nimoy Leonard Nimoy at Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki]

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Leonard Nimoy

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[[Image:LeonardNimoy.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Bilbo! Bilbo! Bilbo Baggins - The bravest little hobbit of them all!]]
'''Leonard Nimoy''' (March 26, 1931-) is an American actor and director. He provided the voice of [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] in ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''.

Oh, and apparently he also played [[wikipedia:Spock|an alien]] on [[wikipedia:Star Trek|some old sci-fi show]], alongside fellow ''Transformers'' voice actor [[George Takei]].

==Trivia==
*Nimoy is married to Susan Bay, a relative of director [[Michael Bay]], and apparently it was due to their considerable donations to [[Griffith Observatory]] that Michael was allowed to film parts of ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'' there.<ref>According to Michael Bay on the ''Transformers'' DVD commentary.</ref>
*Nimoy guest starred in the first-season finale of [[Fringe]], which was created, executive-produced and written by [[Alex Kurtzman]] and [[Roberto Orci]].

==References==
<references />

==External Links==
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000559/ Leonard Nimoy at the Internet Movie Database]
*[http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Leonard_Nimoy Leonard Nimoy at Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki]

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More than Meets the Eye, Part 1

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|series=G1toon
|ep=1
|series2=SRLFtoon
|ep2=1
|image=FHE-MTMTE.jpg
|caption=Admit it. As a kid, you longed to own this, and were only marginally satisfied if your parents instead merely dubbed it from the rental tape.
|title="More than Meets the Eye, Part 1"
|production code=4023
|airdate=[[September 17]], 1984
|written by=[[George Arthur Bloom]]
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}

'''In search of energy, the Autobots leave Cybertron and are pursued by the Decepticons.'''

:''Japanese title:'' 地球への道 (''Chikyū he no Michi'', "The Road to Earth")
:''German ''Generation 2'' title:'' "'''Im Weltraum verschollen'''" ("Lost in Space")

==Synopsis==
[[Image:MTMtE Part1 Cybertron.jpg|left|150px|thumb|A long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away...]]

On [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], many [[MYA|millions of years ago]], the [[Autobot|Autobots]] are on the verge of extinction. Eons of war with the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]], their bitter enemies, have drained the planet's once plentiful resources. Autobots [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] are scraping together [[energy conductors]], and narrowly avoid capture by a Decepticon patrol. They arrive at [[Iacon]], the Autobots' headquarters. There, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], the [[Prime (rank)|Autobot leader]], confers with his lieutenants [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], and [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] on the plan to leave Cybertron on a mission to search for new sources of energy. This plot is overheard by the Decepticon spies [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]].

Inside [[Decepticon Headquarters (Cybertron)|their base]], [[Decepticon leader]] Megatron plots to intercept the Autobots, and leaves his lieutenant Shockwave in charge of Cybertron.

[[Image:MTMtE Part1 Arkcrash.jpg|left|150px|thumb|One does not simply walk into Mordor... one apparently rams one's ship into it.]]

The Autobots blast off aboard an [[Ark (G1)|Autobot spaceship]], followed by the [[Nemesis (G1)|Decepticon cruiser]]. An asteroid collision forces them to use up most of their energy clearing a path through the resulting storm. The Decepticons take advantage of this vulnerability and attack. Both ships spin out of control, crashing on nearby [[Earth]].

Four million years pass. It is the year 1984, and volcanic activity stirs the half-buried ''Ark'', awakening the computer systems aboard. [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]] sends out a [[Sky Spy]] satellite to reconnoiter this new world, and scans examples of terrestrial machinery in order to reformat the Transformers into new [[Alt mode|alt modes]]. The Decepticon [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] is awakened first, and he revives the other Decepticons. Megatron observes that much time has passed since the crash. An impudent [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] leaves a parting shot at the dormant Autobots, unwittingly knocking Optimus Prime into the repair beam and causing him to be the first Autobot to be revived.

[[Image:MTMtE Part1 Prime repair.jpg|right|150px|thumb|The light! It burns!]]

Megatron decrees that their mission is to drain Earth of its resources in order to build an ultimate weapon and conquer the universe (as you do). To start, they'll need a base of operations, so he puts Starscream in charge of converting the area for the construction of a [[Decepticon space cruiser|new star cruiser]]. The Decepticon [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] trashes a nearby power station to serve as raw materials.

Meanwhile, Optimus Prime dispatches [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] to scout the area. They find the Decepticons, and Cliffjumper brashly takes a shot at Megatron. He misses, and the Decepticons unleash Laserbeak in pursuit. Hound is blasted and injured.

Autobot medic [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] and [[Hauler]] come to fetch Hound. Meanwhile, Decepticons [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] spot an Earth vehicle coming to investigate the destruction of the power station. [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] intercepts the vehicle, frightening the human workers away.

Hound is repaired, and reports what he overheard: that the Decepticons are on the hunt for energy. Prime has Jazz assemble a battle group to go after them. The Decepticons attack an off-shore oil rig, where [[Sparkplug Witwicky|William "Sparkplug" Witwicky]] and his son [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]] work. They begin gathering energon cubes, but are interrupted by the Autobots.

[[Image:MTMtE Part1 OilRig battle.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Do yourself a favor, don't smoke at a Cybertronian waterpark.]]

A battle erupts on the drilling platform. Megatron blasts the rig's supports, tipping it into the ocean. It bursts into flames. Realizing the humans are in danger, Optimus Prime tries to save Spike and Sparkplug while the Decepticons retreat with their energon plunder.

'''[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2|To be continued...]]'''

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==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
* [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] (1)
* [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] (2)
* [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] (9)
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (10)
* [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] (11)
* [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (12)
* [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] (15)
* [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] (16)
* [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] (17)
* [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]] (18)
* [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] (21)
* [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] (22)
* [[Hauler]] (23)
* [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] (28)
* [[Bluestreak]] (29)
* [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] (30)
* [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] (31)
* [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] (32)
* [[Gears]] (33)
* [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] (34)
|c2=
* [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] (3)
* [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] (4)
* [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] (5)
* [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]] (6)
* [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] (7)
* [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] (8)
* [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (13)
* [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (14)
* [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] (19)
* [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] (20)
* [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] (25)
|c3=
* [[Joe (MTMTE)|Joe]] and his coworker (24)
* [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] (26)
* [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] (27)
}}

==Quotes==
"Prime told me there would be days like this." 
"And you didn't believe him?" 
"I do now!"
:—'''Bumblebee''' and '''Wheeljack''' under fire.

"When do we start the search mission?" 
"Soon as you are ready to launch."
:—'''Prowl''' is told to hurry up by '''Optimus Prime'''.

"Fear not, Megatron. Cybertron shall remain as you leave it."
:—'''Shockwave''', more accurate than he realizes.

"Leakin' lubricant!"
:—'''Ironhide'''

"But what about materials?" 
"Use your imagination!"
:—'''Starscream''' and '''Megatron'''. (Neither go ''beyond'' it until [[The Transformers: The Movie|1986]], however.)

"Here's something to keep you warm."
:—'''Megatron''' as he ignites the oil spill.

==Notes==
===Animation or technical glitches===
* Although the vehicle modes for the Transformers were different on Cybertron, their robot modes are exactly the same as on Earth. Not so much a glich since it was done intententionally to avoid confusing people. Considering these characters they are being introduced to would wind up changing their appearances constantly.
* The Decepticon "welcoming committee" that tries to detain Wheeljack and Bumblebee includes [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], and [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], though Starscream has a different voice when he speaks. Other shots show differently colored Seekers, including an orange one who was [[Retcon|retroactively established]] to be [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]].
* Further, the welcoming committee is shown to have as many as five members in one shot, but seven distinct color schemes, and rarely more than three jets appear in any single shot. The other jets may have been just off-screen, or mistakes.
[[Image:Shockwave Hands.jpg|thumb|Megatron, help! Starscream stole the ladder, and I can't get down from here!]]
* During the scene in the Cybertronian [[Decepticon Headquarters]], Shockwave is consistently drawn with two hands. This may not be an error ''per se'', as he doesn't appear again for another four million years (in [[Transport to Oblivion]]), which could mean he lost his hand in the intervening years... or it's just an animation mistake. We'll go with that.
* Immediately after a shot of Optimus Prime rallying his troops to prepare to repulse Decepticon boarders ("Prepare for battle!"), the same animation is re-used, but this time with Megatron's voice urging his troops to "Attack! Attack!" When the episode was re-done for the ''[[Generation 2 (cartoon)|Generation 2]]'' series, this scene was amended by placing a shot of Megatron sitting on this throne from earlier in the episode over the image, shouting the command.
* A shot of Soundwave being kicked out of frame by Ironhide is immediately followed by Soundwave sparring with Ratchet.
* When Soundwave tosses Ratchet into a console aboard the Ark, the Autobot Medic is sporting a Decepticon symbol in the center of his chest windshield, most likely the result of the animator carrying over Soundwave's design.
* After Ratchet is thrown into the console, Optimus Prime and Megatron enter the frame, struggling with each other. Megatron is missing his fusion cannon in this shot, but it reappears when the angle changes to show them grappling as Prime asks for a status report.
* Ratchet is shown being thrown by Soundwave, but after after Optimus Prime asks for a status report, Ratchet is seen fighting with Thundercracker on the other side of the room.
* As the above shot pans across the bridge to the right, we see Soundwave has teleported from one side of the bridge to the other, slumped against a console.
* When Starscream is shooting at the Ark the Decepticon sigils on his wings are up-side down.
* When Optimus Prime assigns Hound his mission, the establishing shot has Cliffjumper with Bumblebee's yellow colors.
* In the long shot of the Decepticons building their base, Soundwave appears in Sideswipe's colors.
* In the pan shot on the ''Ark'' when the Transformers find out they're going to crash, there are TWO Soundwaves and TWO Starscreams...
* When Rumble knocks Spike into the water, his father yells "Pike!" instead of "Spike". Perhaps he was meant to be warning his son about carnivorous fish, but ''of course'' pike live in fresh water, not salt.

===Continuity errors===
* Jazz's role-call of the Autobots assembled to stop the Decepticons at the oil platform does not match the Autobots who eventually go on the mission. For example, Huffer and Brawn are both seen next episode at the oil platform, though Jazz never called their names.
* Because Laserbeak discovered the oil platform long after Hound was chased away, Hound could not have overheard the Decepticon plans to attack the platform. As such, it is unclear how the Autobots knew to go there.
* While he is getting repaired by Ratchet, Hound refers to an Energon cube as "some kind of cube", implying that the Autobots don't know what Energon cubes are, despite the fact that they are shown using cubes as fuel during the flashbacks in "[[War Dawn]]".
* The Autobots are all shown flying. In subsequent episodes, this ability would disappear when required.
* The episode ends with a preview of "Part 2". While other multi-part Transformers episodes generally refer to the episode by its title ("Next time, on ''The Transformers'': 'The Ultimate Doom'"), this preview uses the series title, ''The Transformers'', instead. This is probably because "More Than Meets the Eye" is a retroactive name for the three-part episode, which began as a mini-series before becoming a regular program.

===Transformers references===
* The Decepticon vessel is rediscovered in the episode "[[Microbots]]".
* The vessel is named ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]'' in the [[Beast Wars (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'']] episode "[[Nemesis Part 1]]", where it is described as the most powerful Decepticon warship in history. Gotta wonder why it went down so easily, though it probably doesn't help that no one was shown piloting the ships during the fighting.

===Trivia===
* Oddly enough, nobody opens fire during the scuffle when the Decepticons board the Ark... not even Megatron.
* The mid-80s [[Family Home Entertainment]] VHS release of "More Than Meets the Eye" was granted the [[wikipedia:Film Advisory Board|Film Advisory Board]] Award of Excellence, proudly displayed on the video box cover above. However, this particular "award" does not reflect the ''quality'' of any work submitted, but rather that the work is "family-friendly". Cheeky, that.
* The three parter was released on video in the United Kingdom in 1986 under the title "Arrival from Cybertron".
* The events of the ''[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon take place during the 4 million years in which the Autobots and Decepticons lie dormant in the wreckage of the Ark.
* Footage from this episode was used to represent a historical video in "[[Transform and Roll Out]]", the opening movie for ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]''.

==Home video releases==
* In 1984, this episode was edited together with parts 2 and 3 to create a "feature-length movie", which was sold on videocassette as Volume 1 of [[Family Home Entertainment]]'s ''Transformers'' collection. The release had the (now somewhat quaint) honor of being available in both VHS and Betamax formats.

==External links==
* [http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/cartoon-dossier/synopses/more_than_meets_the_eye_part_1.html Dossier at the Cybertron Chronicle]

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