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Talk:Decepticon Crypt

2009-05-13T18:35:58Z

142.245.59.3: /* Murdron and the rest */ new section

==Megatron/Galvatron==

Regarding Megatron's marker... Were any of the Decepticons besides Cyclonus and Scourge even aware that Galvatron and Megatron were one and the same? - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 02:24, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

: Some damn episode had like, Astrotrain mutter "well, they're the same guy" or something, so yeah, I think it's common knowledge to 'em. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:28, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

The episode you speak of is "Five Faces of Darkness part 1"...just to clarify. Cyclonus seems to regard Galvatron as a seperate person from Megatron, though, as in that conversation Cyclonus says something like "You mean GALVATRON would blah blah" to which Astrotrain replies "Well they'r ethe same fucking guy!" --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 03:02, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

==Starscream's tootsies==

Regarding Starscream's marker being a pair of legs, I think it was intentional, at least by the animators. When Octane reaches over to touch the marker he moves one of the legs like it was seperate and not connected to a torso (and no torso is ever seen and there are multiple shots of the two legs). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 03:04, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

:Didn't the original script for TF:TM have Starscream leaving behind his "boots" when Galvy destroys him? I've thought that maybe that was somehow connected to the way his marker is drawn. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 03:11, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

::I've always regarded the legs as intentional since, 1) Starscream never seemed well liked, so it made sense that they'd have no problems making fun of his smoking leftovers. 2) The boots seemed pretty well drawn for something that wasn't meant to be fully seen. From the errors in the Rhino DVD sets, when something wasn't meant to be seen, the animators usually didn't bother to draw the parts that would be hidden or at least not draw them well.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 00:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

It's not Bloodron that Octane has his ominous reaction to- it looks like Bloodron is one-to-the-left of the ominious one.<br/>
This is the scary one.
http://www.emopanda.com/tmp/deathcomes.jpg

Also, I move this article be moved to 'Decepticon Tomb' because it's not called a crypt anywhere, but one of the sweeps does comment it's as silent as a tomb. It's still not a proper name- but it's CLOSER. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Could the Decepticons have built the marker for Megatron during the 4 million years he was "missing"? But then the presence of marks for Thundercracker and Starscream might indicate either a recent construction, or all the 1984 Decepticons were considered dead by Shockwave after they and the Autobots went missing 4 million years ago. ~Ithekro

== Murdron and the rest ==

What's the source of knowing the identities of the unknown dudes such as Murdron and Bloodron. Not that I don't believe it, but I ask out of pure interest. [[Special:Contributions/142.245.59.3|142.245.59.3]] 14:35, 13 May 2009 (EDT)

Talk:Defensor (G1)

2008-02-21T21:01:56Z

142.245.59.3:

i just thougt you might want to know that in one transformers episode i watched (hate plauge one) when defensor is confronted by a hate plauge infected supierion he acts as if he is just a single robot and not a combiner (ie he doesnt have slowed reactions or lowered intelligence)[[User:80.42.88.231|80.42.88.231]] 10:14, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Added both his appearance in the hate plague episode (Return of Optimus Prime) and made a note that he isn't mentally handicapped like most G1 Combiners. [[User:142.245.59.3|142.245.59.3]] 21:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Defensor (G1)

2008-02-21T20:59:57Z

142.245.59.3: Added his fairly unique position of being mentally stable

{{disambig3|Defensor}}

:''Defensor is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Defensor_boxart.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Overly defensive]]

The combined form of the five [[Protectobot]]s '''Defensor''' exists specifically to safeguard [[human]] life. In many ways he feels about the human race the way a parent would their children and he would give his life away in an instant rather than let one human come to harm. Defensor is emotionally attached to humans on a level that sometimes worries his fellow Autobots. He identifies with them the same way a sheep dog would with its flock or a puppy with its human owners. As far as Defensor is concerned the humans are his "kind." Sadly the titanic robot giant's attempts at personal interaction and friendly exchanges with humans tend to fail. We humans tend to be more wary and frightened of his alien nature and great size than Defensor can understand. Despite this, Defensor is fairly well adjusted mentally compared [[Devastator|to]] [[Abominus|almost]] [[Menasor|every]] [[Superion|other]] Generation 1 Gestalt.

Defensor's most notable ability is a powerful [[force field]] he can create within 50ft of his person, but it is very fuel consumptive and he cannot maintain it for long.

:''Japanese name:'' '''Guardian'''
:''Italian name'': '''Guardian''' (''Headmasters'' dub only)

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] met at a fuel research station with the Protectobots and the [[Combaticon]]s, planning to brawl over it. When [[Ethan Zachary]] suggested they uploaded themselves to the computer to battle over it safely, both sides agreed.

In the virtual world, after each individual Protectobot had taken care of a Combaticon, they combined to fight Megatron, leaving Optimus Prime safely off to the side. Defensor burned the bridge he and Megatron were standing on, letting them both 'die' in the virtual world.

Not long after, the Protectobots were summoned by the current leader Grimlock to find and arrest Blaster. They came up against the Combaticons during this mission, culminating in a battle between Defensor and Bruticus. Ultimately Bruticus defeated Defensor by beating him over the head with an entire train. {{storylink|Child's Play}}

===Animated continuity===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Chris Latta]] (US), [[Kenyu Horiuchi]] (Japan)

Defensor once reduced [[Bruticus]] to scrap with a single shot, dryly noting afterwards that "there's junk all over the street." {{Storylink|B.O.T.}}

When [[First Aid]] was unable to prevent the theft of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex's]] [[Transformation Cog|transformation cog]], he left the Protectobots, feeling that he was useless and a liability to the rest of the Autobots. Unfortunately, this left the remaining Protectobots with the unenviable task of resuming their duties as Defensor with only one arm. {{Storylink|The Ultimate Weapon}}

Defensor briefly reappeared long enough to battle a Hate Plague infected [[Superion]]. His efforts to keep the Aerialbot Combiner from infecting him didn't last long. {{Storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime}}

==Scramble city OVA==
The Protectobots form Defensor, who points at the Decepticons and does nothing else.

==Toys==
* '''Defensor''' (1986)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-76'''

[[Image:G1defensor_toy.jpg|right|thumb|125px|Solid.]]

:Defensor is formed out of the five individual Protectobots, with [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] serving as the central torso component. Unusually for [[Scramble City]]-style combiners, Defensor's head is not a separate piece, but hidden inside his fire truck ladder assembly, like [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]]. He is armed with Hot Spot's twin laser rifles. Though any of the smaller Protectobots can serve as any limb, the "correct" configuration has Blades and First Aid as arms, and Groove and Streetwise as legs.

:Defensor's arms are very commonly mis-transformed, even in official artwork such as the box art above (in which Streetwise and First Aid have also reversed positions). The instructions (and the cartoon model) show the nose of Blades' helicopter form, and the front panel of First Aid's ambulance mode, unfolded to hang off of Defensor's shoulders (as shown at right.) But almost as frequently, both these components are shown folded away. First Aid's legs are often not unfolded properly as well, giving Defensor a shorter arm than he would otherwise have.

:Defensor was available as the individual Protectobots sold separately, or as a giftset.

:This mold was later [[redeco]]ed into [[Guard City]].

{{-}}

{{charstub}}

[[Category: Combined forms]]
[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category: Generation 2 characters]]
[[Category: Headmasters characters]]
[[Category: Protectobots]]
[[Category: Unreleased toys]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Defensor (G1)

2008-02-21T19:36:44Z

142.245.59.3: /* Animated continuity */ Added his role in Return of Optimus Prime

{{disambig3|Defensor}}

:''Defensor is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Defensor_boxart.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Overly defensive]]

The combined form of the five [[Protectobot]]s '''Defensor''' exists specifically to safeguard [[human]] life. In many ways he feels about the human race the way a parent would their children and he would give his life away in an instant rather than let one human come to harm. Defensor is emotionally attached to humans on a level that sometimes worries his fellow Autobots. He identifies with them the same way a sheep dog would with its flock or a puppy with its human owners. As far as Defensor is concerned the humans are his "kind." Sadly the titanic robot giant's attempts at personal interaction and friendly exchanges with humans tend to fail. We humans tend to be more wary and frightened of his alien nature and great size than Defensor can understand.

Defensor's most notable ability is a powerful [[force field]] he can create within 50ft of his person, but it is very fuel consumptive and he cannot maintain it for long.

:''Japanese name:'' '''Guardian'''
:''Italian name'': '''Guardian''' (''Headmasters'' dub only)

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] met at a fuel research station with the Protectobots and the [[Combaticon]]s, planning to brawl over it. When [[Ethan Zachary]] suggested they uploaded themselves to the computer to battle over it safely, both sides agreed.

In the virtual world, after each individual Protectobot had taken care of a Combaticon, they combined to fight Megatron, leaving Optimus Prime safely off to the side. Defensor burned the bridge he and Megatron were standing on, letting them both 'die' in the virtual world.

Not long after, the Protectobots were summoned by the current leader Grimlock to find and arrest Blaster. They came up against the Combaticons during this mission, culminating in a battle between Defensor and Bruticus. Ultimately Bruticus defeated Defensor by beating him over the head with an entire train. {{storylink|Child's Play}}

===Animated continuity===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Chris Latta]] (US), [[Kenyu Horiuchi]] (Japan)

Defensor once reduced [[Bruticus]] to scrap with a single shot, dryly noting afterwards that "there's junk all over the street." {{Storylink|B.O.T.}}

When [[First Aid]] was unable to prevent the theft of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex's]] [[Transformation Cog|transformation cog]], he left the Protectobots, feeling that he was useless and a liability to the rest of the Autobots. Unfortunately, this left the remaining Protectobots with the unenviable task of resuming their duties as Defensor with only one arm. {{Storylink|The Ultimate Weapon}}

Defensor briefly reappeared long enough to battle a Hate Plague infected [[Superion]]. His efforts to keep the Aerialbot Combiner from infecting him didn't last long. {{Storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime}}

==Scramble city OVA==
The Protectobots form Defensor, who points at the Decepticons and does nothing else.

==Toys==
* '''Defensor''' (1986)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-76'''

[[Image:G1defensor_toy.jpg|right|thumb|125px|Solid.]]

:Defensor is formed out of the five individual Protectobots, with [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] serving as the central torso component. Unusually for [[Scramble City]]-style combiners, Defensor's head is not a separate piece, but hidden inside his fire truck ladder assembly, like [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]]. He is armed with Hot Spot's twin laser rifles. Though any of the smaller Protectobots can serve as any limb, the "correct" configuration has Blades and First Aid as arms, and Groove and Streetwise as legs.

:Defensor's arms are very commonly mis-transformed, even in official artwork such as the box art above (in which Streetwise and First Aid have also reversed positions). The instructions (and the cartoon model) show the nose of Blades' helicopter form, and the front panel of First Aid's ambulance mode, unfolded to hang off of Defensor's shoulders (as shown at right.) But almost as frequently, both these components are shown folded away. First Aid's legs are often not unfolded properly as well, giving Defensor a shorter arm than he would otherwise have.

:Defensor was available as the individual Protectobots sold separately, or as a giftset.

:This mold was later [[redeco]]ed into [[Guard City]].

{{-}}

{{charstub}}

[[Category: Combined forms]]
[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category: Generation 2 characters]]
[[Category: Headmasters characters]]
[[Category: Protectobots]]
[[Category: Unreleased toys]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Defensor (G1)

2008-02-21T19:32:33Z

142.245.59.3: /* Marvel Comics continuity */ Added the events of Child's Play, I trhi

{{disambig3|Defensor}}

:''Defensor is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Defensor_boxart.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Overly defensive]]

The combined form of the five [[Protectobot]]s '''Defensor''' exists specifically to safeguard [[human]] life. In many ways he feels about the human race the way a parent would their children and he would give his life away in an instant rather than let one human come to harm. Defensor is emotionally attached to humans on a level that sometimes worries his fellow Autobots. He identifies with them the same way a sheep dog would with its flock or a puppy with its human owners. As far as Defensor is concerned the humans are his "kind." Sadly the titanic robot giant's attempts at personal interaction and friendly exchanges with humans tend to fail. We humans tend to be more wary and frightened of his alien nature and great size than Defensor can understand.

Defensor's most notable ability is a powerful [[force field]] he can create within 50ft of his person, but it is very fuel consumptive and he cannot maintain it for long.

:''Japanese name:'' '''Guardian'''
:''Italian name'': '''Guardian''' (''Headmasters'' dub only)

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] met at a fuel research station with the Protectobots and the [[Combaticon]]s, planning to brawl over it. When [[Ethan Zachary]] suggested they uploaded themselves to the computer to battle over it safely, both sides agreed.

In the virtual world, after each individual Protectobot had taken care of a Combaticon, they combined to fight Megatron, leaving Optimus Prime safely off to the side. Defensor burned the bridge he and Megatron were standing on, letting them both 'die' in the virtual world.

Not long after, the Protectobots were summoned by the current leader Grimlock to find and arrest Blaster. They came up against the Combaticons during this mission, culminating in a battle between Defensor and Bruticus. Ultimately Bruticus defeated Defensor by beating him over the head with an entire train. {{storylink|Child's Play}}

===Animated continuity===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Chris Latta]] (US), [[Kenyu Horiuchi]] (Japan)

Defensor once reduced [[Bruticus]] to scrap with a single shot, dryly noting afterwards that "there's junk all over the street." {{Storylink|B.O.T.}}

When [[First Aid]] was unable to prevent the theft of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex's]] [[Transformation Cog|transformation cog]], he left the Protectobots, feeling that he was useless and a liability to the rest of the Autobots. Unfortunately, this left the remaining Protectobots with the unenviable task of resuming their duties as Defensor with only one arm. {{Storylink|The Ultimate Weapon}}

==Scramble city OVA==
The Protectobots form Defensor, who points at the Decepticons and does nothing else.

==Toys==
* '''Defensor''' (1986)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-76'''

[[Image:G1defensor_toy.jpg|right|thumb|125px|Solid.]]

:Defensor is formed out of the five individual Protectobots, with [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] serving as the central torso component. Unusually for [[Scramble City]]-style combiners, Defensor's head is not a separate piece, but hidden inside his fire truck ladder assembly, like [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]]. He is armed with Hot Spot's twin laser rifles. Though any of the smaller Protectobots can serve as any limb, the "correct" configuration has Blades and First Aid as arms, and Groove and Streetwise as legs.

:Defensor's arms are very commonly mis-transformed, even in official artwork such as the box art above (in which Streetwise and First Aid have also reversed positions). The instructions (and the cartoon model) show the nose of Blades' helicopter form, and the front panel of First Aid's ambulance mode, unfolded to hang off of Defensor's shoulders (as shown at right.) But almost as frequently, both these components are shown folded away. First Aid's legs are often not unfolded properly as well, giving Defensor a shorter arm than he would otherwise have.

:Defensor was available as the individual Protectobots sold separately, or as a giftset.

:This mold was later [[redeco]]ed into [[Guard City]].

{{-}}

{{charstub}}

[[Category: Combined forms]]
[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category: Generation 2 characters]]
[[Category: Headmasters characters]]
[[Category: Protectobots]]
[[Category: Unreleased toys]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>