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Talk:Cy-Kill (GoBots)

2009-11-05T21:58:17Z

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==Hikayat al-Amaliqa==
The Challenge of the GoBots was dubbed in Arabic (notably long before any Transformers cartoon) and all the characters had distinctedly different names than their English counterparts (in contrast to Transformers, which kept their original names in Arabic, with a [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|few]] [[Bumblebee (Animated)|exceptions]]). I was wondering if I should add the Arabic names to the GoBot articles? I mean, do these articles actually refer to the Challenge of the GoBot characters, or just the GoBots in the TransTech cross-universe story? -- [[User:Ziyad|Ziyad]] 19:35, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
:Since we appear to only be covering the Transformers fiction that the GoBots characters have appeared in, probably neither. --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 20:09, 15 August 2009 (EDT)

== Personality Profile? ==

Ok, I want to get a feel for how deep we want to go into these characters. I know we're sticking to events and story that take place in Transformers fiction only (not sure I always 100% agree with that, but I understand why we're doing it). But what about basic personality? I mean the main "Character Profile" paragraph at the top of the page is really sparse here. If you've watched Go-bots there is certainly more that can be said to flesh out who Cy-kill is, his personality and powers, but he hasn't really demonstrated any of that personality in his VERY brief TF appearence. Is it still fair game to add it here (within reason) to give a better idea of who Cy-kill is? Or do we want to hew really very strict to the "only in TF stuff" guidline? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.72.27|76.28.72.27]] 10:51, 19 October 2009 (EDT)
:That's being debated at the Community Portal. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 10:54, 19 October 2009 (EDT)

Since the idea of a separate wiki kinda took off, shouldn't the personality data be dropped in favour of something we can confirm relates to tf? [[User:Eire]] 22.00 Nov 5 09

== Poor Image Locaton? ==

Is there a reason there's an image of Cy-kill at the bottom of the page but not the top? I realise there's no "in-universe" pic of him to use, but if we're cool putting a pic from the GoBots toon on here at all, why not put it in the spot where it would look nicer and fill a void? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.72.27|76.28.72.27]] 09:31, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
:Trivia/Notes sections are the only place the Wiki allows unofficial imagery. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:52, 20 October 2009 (EDT)

Talk:Beast mode

2009-11-05T21:52:00Z

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Why was the redirect to [[alternate mode]] deleted? That is where beast modes are discussed. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:46, 6 May 2009 (EDT)

==Main Image==

Surely an image of actual confirmed beast modes, rather than a gratuitous fanwank that is far more likely to be just a bunch of animals, would be more appropriate? [[User:Eire]] 21.54 Nov 5 09 (UTC)

Herald of Unicron

2009-10-13T18:58:45Z

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{{Factions|unicron}}
[[Image:Otfccmag lt0 unicronsplans.jpg|right|250px|thumb|]]
"'''Herald of Unicron'''" originated as a fan term for Transformers who serve, or have been reformatted by, [[Unicron]]. It was used in much the same way as [[shellformer]], or as [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] used to be; and like "seeker" has since graduated to (admittedly rare) usage in official sources. Despite its official rarity, fanfictions are rife with it, making it part of the greater [[fanon]]. It most likely originates from the term "[[wikipedia:Herald_of_Galactus|Herald of Galactus]]" from various Marvel comics, given the similarities between Unicron and [[wikipedia:Galactus|Galactus]].

The term's first canonical use was in the Fun Publications fanclub comic where [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] refers to himself specifically as the "Herald of Unicron".{{fact}} Later, [[IDW Publishing|IDW]] used the term in [[Galvatron (BWII)|''Beast Wars II'' Galvatron]]'s ''[[Beast Wars Sourcebook]]'' biography.

==What is a "Herald"?==
While many characters are Unicron-related, not all of those characters are generally thought of as "Heralds". While the term originated in fandom, it nevertheless has some boundaries. For example, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] was rebuilt to serve Unicron and lead his "armada" of rebuilt Transformers, which includes [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]], [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], and an indeterminate number of [[Sweeps]]. All of these characters are sometimes called "Heralds", even though Galvatron wasn't always loyal. On the other hand, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] is not considered a "Herald", due to his ''complete'' lack of loyalty. Starscream never intended to serve Unicron and abandoned the Planet Eater after getting his reward. {{storylink|Ghost in the Machine}}

Another, more appropriate example would be [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]] and [[The Fallen]]. Both are almost universally considered Heralds of Unicron among fans for the same reason that the Silver Surfer was considered a Herald of Galactus; their appearance actually signified the appearance of the Chaos Bringer, as they were trying to bring him back into existence. Sideways wanted to lead Unicron to the Transformers and destroy Cybertron, while The Fallen was attempting to free the Planet Eater from his extradimensional prison. [[Hook, Line, and Sinker]] served a similar purpose, as their arrival at a particular world meant the Chaos Bringer would soon arrive to devour everything.

==Insignia==
[[Image:Unicron faction symbol.png|right|180px|thumb|SHOUT AT THE DEVIL!]]
The [[insignia]] of the ''[[Beast Wars Neo (franchise)|Beast Wars Neo]]'' faction, the [[Blendtron]]s, has been [[Repurposing|repurposed]] to represent "Heralds". Initially a fan convention based on the Blendtron origins and the general look of the symbol, the glyph has since entered official usage; [[Overcharge]]'s sticker sheet identifies the sigil as belonging to "Heralds of Unicron"; the ''[[The Ark: A Complete Compendium of Character Designs|Ark Compendium]]'' used it to represent Unicron (though not Galvatron, Cyclonus or Scourge); the mark adorned the ''[[Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]'' [[Sparkbot]]s after their allegiance to Unicron is revealed. The Blendtron insignia, colored yellow, is also the symbol used for Unicron-related characters on this wiki.

Alternatively, the Mini-Con logo has been used in-show (particularly in ''Energon'') as Unicron's insignia. This is complemented by the M shaped frame around his face/helmet, which is nearly identical. This connection was meant to hint at a connection between the Mini-Cons and Unicron before their origin was revealed (like, two episodes later), and was further built on in ''Energon'' during his one-and-only transformation sequence (though it was the half-red/half-blue version of the logo that was used instead of the standard teal blue version).

[[Image:Unicronsymbol dwmtmte.png|right|100px|thumb|]]
A third faction symbol was also used for the Dreamwave ''More Than Meets the Eye'' profile book for ''Armada''. It appears as an effigy of Unicron in planet mode.
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==Known "Heralds of Unicron"==
Following is a short list of characters from various continuities that served Unicron, whether by free choice or by having their will stripped off of them like a banana peel, and may thus be considered "Heralds":

* The [[Blendtron]]
* [[Bludgeon (G1)|''Generation 1'' Bludgeon]] {{storylink|Worlds Collide, Part 1 of 4}}
* [[Cyclonus (G1)|''Generation 1'' Cyclonus]] {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}} {{storylink|Target: 2006}}
* [[Dirge (G1)|''Generation 1'' Dirge]]
* [[The Fallen]] {{storylink|War Within: The Dark Ages|The War Within: The Dark Ages}}
* [[Galvatron (G1)|''Generation 1'' Galvatron]] {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}} {{storylink|Target: 2006}} {{storylink|Fallen Angel (issue)|Fallen Angel}}
* [[Galvatron II]] {{storylink|A Savage Circle}}
* [[Hook, Line, and Sinker]] {{storylink|All Fall Down (issue)|All Fall Down}}
* [[Minions of Unicron]]
* [[Ramjet (Universe)|''Universe'' Ramjet]] {{storylink|Balancing Act|Balancing Act}}
* [[Scourge (G1)|''Generation 1'' Scourge]] {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}} {{storylink|Target: 2006}}
* [[Shokaract]]
* [[Sideways (RID)|''G1/RID/UT'' Sideways]] {{storylink|Origin}}
* [[Sparkbot|Sparkbots]]
* [[Sweeps]] {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}
* [[Thrust (Armada)|''Armada'' Thrust]]
* [[Thunderwing (G1)|''Generation 1'' Thunderwing]]

==Notes==
[[Kid Rhino]] tried to coin their own term for Generation 1 heralds with the release of ''The Transformers: the Movie'' VHS and DVD in 2000. The summary on the back of the cases identified Galvatron, Cyclonus and the Sweeps as the "[[Unicrons]]". (No, really.)

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