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Ai (CR)

2011-03-23T19:09:34Z

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{{disambig2|the insurance salesperson from ''Animated''|the hologram from ''Robots in Disguise''|T-AI}}
:''Ai is... someone from somewhere.''

{{merge|T-AI|ALTernity Today is a multiversal publication.}}

[[Image:Ai_Almanac2.jpg|thumb|150px|]]

'''Ai''' is associated with an insurance company called [[Aisurance]], which she advertises in [[ALTernity Today]].

==Notes==
*Ai made her first appearance in ''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II]]''. She is clearly based on [[T-AI]] from ''[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'', and goes by T-AI's ''Car Robots'' name.
*According to designer [[Bill Forster]], she is a play on Erin Esurance, a character used for marketing by real-life auto insurance company [http://www.esurance.com/ Esurance Inc.] <ref>[http://billforster.deviantart.com/art/Ai-173651660 http://billforster.deviantart.com/art/Ai-173651660]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Almanac-only characters]]
[[Category:Animated characters]]

Talk:Fallback (TF 2010)

2011-02-21T15:33:34Z

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Since [[Reveal the Shield]] is pretty much G1 characters wouldn't that make Fallback [[Outback]]? --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 12:08, 22 January 2011 (EST)
: Mindset isn't Mindset, so there's room for doubt. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:33, 22 January 2011 (EST)
:: Still, the bios are basically the same between this Fallback and Outback. It wouldn't be unreasonable to think they're the same, and he has used that name before. Granted, the older Fallback bio has him starting to obey the rules, buuuut Hasbro might want to reuse the character and ignore Club fiction. Plus, this guy hasn't been used in fiction yet. I dunno, the whole thing is pretty ambiguous, but I think we should move him to Outback's page until evidence proves otherwise. [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 17:58, 22 January 2011 (EST)
::: I wouldn't be too opposed. Let's see what a few more people say. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:39, 22 January 2011 (EST)
::::I would consider [[Sea Spray]] a bigger candidate for merging before Fallback. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:12, 22 January 2011 (EST)
:::::Definite no on Sea Spray. He has profile fiction that places him firmly in the movie universe, no matter what Hasbro's author intent was. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:40, 22 January 2011 (EST)
:::::: Hey it's not like G1 characters or gobots can't show up in different universes. Like [[Fracture (Movie)|Fracture]] (and maybe but probably not [[Breakaway (Movie)|Breakaway]]-[[Getaway]] and [[Crankcase (Movie)|Crankcase]]-[[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]]), all the offworlders in [[Axiom Nexus]] like the [[G1 GoBots]] {{storylink|Withered Hope}}
::::::and [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]]-[[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II}}. And also since the only thing in his bio placing him in the movie verse is [[Crankstart]] (unless my figure's on package bio isn't the only one) how can you be sure there isn't even an as of yet unheard of Crankstart in any other universe? My God this took forever to write. --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 07:02, 23 January 2011 (EST)
:::::::And with the "unheard of G1 Crankstart" makes you pretty much lose the argument, since you're arguing via things that don't exist. Also, Fracture is not a dimension-hopping GoBot, she's a Decepticon from that universe that just happens to ressemble Crasher of the GoBots, just like we've had tons of Cy-Kills that weren't the GoBot Cy-Kill. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:22, 23 January 2011 (EST)
::::::::Hey don't tell me when I lose an argument. I know the g1 Crankstart was a long shot but still it's possible. Anyway how are you so sure Fracture isn't Crasher? Do you have any proof she can't be? That's [[Fracture (Movie)#Notes|what Hasbro said]] and I choose to believe them and that's the same way I feel about Sea Spray. --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 07:33, 23 January 2011 (EST)
:::::::::Read the Fracture note again. Intend'''ed''', past tense. The note even points out how this was the plan before the toy's move to the Movie line. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:41, 23 January 2011 (EST)
:::::I've thought the same. I think they both should go to G1. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:47, 22 January 2011 (EST)
::::::I agree. They can have new pages too if they end up in a movie comic or something, but they should be on the G1 characters' pages either way. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 22:26, 22 January 2011 (EST)
Okay, if there aren't any major objections to it, can we at least put one of those merge thingies on the page? --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 11:37, 31 January 2011 (EST)
:I added the merge template hoping to encourage more discussion. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:01, 6 February 2011 (EST)
::Yeah, no. Until there's solid evidence he's in G1, he should be treated like all other TF 2010 toys and placed on his own page. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:09, 6 February 2011 (EST)
:::He ''does'' ship in a wave with Jazz and Tracks, and he has his G1 self's personality. I suppose it depends on how much it matters to you that he looks more movie-y than usual. But if it doesn't stop [[Lockdown (G1)|Lockdown]]... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:37, 6 February 2011 (EST)
::::I'm not even sure Lockdown should count, frankly. While Milne based him on the ROTF toy, there are fundamental differences between his comic appearance and the toy, such as the entire head and the legs. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 09:42, 6 February 2011 (EST)
:::::No, Lockdown's head is the same. It's just his face that has a normal mouth instead of whatever the toy has. And his legs are half-transformed. These are not fundamental differences. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:45, 6 February 2011 (EST)
::::::Hm, you're right, I guess. But still, Lockdown's there because he's been concretely put in G1. As far as the bio goes, though, I believe we've had identical bios cross be similar without them being the same character, such as ROTF Reverb vs Movie Reverb. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:11, 6 February 2011 (EST)
:::::::You are correct about that, yeah. I don't really have any strong feelings one direction or the other. I just thought "all of the other TF 2010 toys" was inaccurate, and I provided another toy from that year that's in "movie style" that also serves as a G1 toy. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:19, 6 February 2011 (EST)
::::::::Yeah, poor choice of words on my part. I meant more the 2010 line toys that don't have any fiction associating them with any particular continuity. I mean if his design ends up showing up in IDW's G1 comics, I'll have no objection to a merge, but right now, everything's kind of iffy due to Hasbro's increasing refusal to admit to separate continuities. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:32, 6 February 2011 (EST)
:::::::::I think the fundamental issue I have with this is that, as a rule, movie toys do not get redecoed as non-movie guys. It seems very likely that any new-mold guys in RTS at this point are going to be considered G1 characters, but this is a movie mold in a nebulous, fiction-free environment. And, if I had to guess, I'd say it's a lot more likely he'll show up in a Movie story than in a G1 story, because anyone wanting to use Outback in a G1 story would think this mold doesn't look enough like Outback. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:47, 6 February 2011 (EST)
::::::::::I agree with LV, and don't think he should be put in G1. I mean, it's not like a movie-universe character with a G1 character's name AND a near identical bio note is remotely unheard-of. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:06, 6 February 2011 (EST)
:::::::::::If Seaspray (who LOOKS more like his G1 self than "Fallback" does) isn't going to be considered "G1" in this wiki, then there's no legitimate reason that Fallback should[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 05:04, 21 February 2011 (EST)
::::::::::::Seaspray's placement is because his bio explicitly ties him to movie guys, not because of his appearance. If he turned up in G1 fiction in that body, we'd put him on the G1 guy's page. The same is true of Fallback, regardless of who is more or less [[geewun]] than he is. --[[Special:Contributions/152.15.24.58|152.15.24.58]] 10:33, 21 February 2011 (EST)

Raker Claws

2010-12-03T20:03:50Z

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[[Image:Cassiewolfweapons.jpg|right|thumb|350px|Not actually intended for use on [[Raker|space shuttles]].]]
When she morphs into a wolf, [[Cassie]] gains access to her '''Raker Claws'''. Though what exactly makes them special when compared to a wolf's regular claws is uncertain.

==Toys==
===Animorphs===
* '''Cassie/Wolf''' (Deluxe, 1999)
**''Accessories:'' Left paw, right paw

: Part of the first wave of ''Animorphs'' toys, Cassie transforms from what is evidently supposed to be a human into a wolf, as well as a transitional third mode combining features from both. Like many ''Animorphs'' toys, she has a pair of wolf claws, the "[[Raker Claws]]", that attach to her hands like gloves; unlike the other toys, they are not actually necessary to complete her wolf mode (as it has four paws already), though they can still be used in that mode.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Animorphs/CassieWolf/cassie.htm More information on Cassie (wolf) at tfu.info]''

==Notes==
* It can be speculated that the Raker Claws are disproportionately larger than a regular wolf's claws based on Cassie's toy. The wolf's paws that are integrated into the toy resemble more closely what a wolf's real paws look like, and the Raker Claws included with the toy are absurdly over-sized in comparison. But saying that anything is definitive on this subject would be speculative extrapolation.

==See also==
* [[Scythe Claws]]
* [[Saber Claws]]
* [[Attack Claws]]
* [[Combat Claws]]

[[Category:Animorphs franchise]]
[[Category:Weapons]]

Geosensus

2010-12-01T18:21:40Z

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{{factions|autobot}}

:''Geosensus is an [[Autobot]] from the [[The War Within]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]]''

{{faceless}}

'''Geosensus''' is highly specialized for his function as a fuel deposit scout. His job is all he cares about and he has extensively adapted and reconfigured himself for its sake, in the process sacrificing features both physical and emotional that most [[Transformer|Transformers]] take for granted. A pacifist, he long ago decided never to be outfitted with [[Weapon|weapons]], instead covering his body with sensory technology. As [[Energon (fuel)|energon]] grew scarcer throughout the millennia, he configured himself with scanning and sampling devices requiring such precise calibration and delicate treatment that they had to be permanently fixed into position: thus he could no longer [[Transformation|transform]] and would always be in his [[alternate mode]], a mobile all-terrain scanning and mining array.

These sacrifices allowed him to help his teammates, but also alienated him from both major Transformer factions. That alienation would cost Geosensus everything.

{{bigquote|No lesson to learn. No reason to tell.|[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] on covering things up, "[[Parts]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Transformers Legends===
During his subterranean energon hunts, Geosensus inadvertantly discovered the early rallies of the [[Decepticon]] army as well as their brutal [[gladiatorial combat|gladiatorial games]]. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] confronted him and attempted to recruit him, but was disgusted by Geosensus' stated neutrality and unwillingness to transform, and so attempted to kill him. Geosensus survived and was able to warn the Autobots of a looming attack on [[Kaon]]--while this did not save the city, it won Geosensus the respect of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]].

When the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'' departed for [[Earth]], Geosensus went along to search for energon--over the protests of [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], who thought him a misfit who wouldn't / couldn't bond with the rest of the team. The first to be awakened after the crash, Geosensus went on a solo survey of Earth, enthralled by its natural beauty... until he was attacked by a Decepticon air patrol. Out of self-preservation he transformed into robot mode, fought and killed one of his pursuers, leaving himself horrified after breaking his own moral code. With no time to reflect on it, he ran back to the Ark while being pursued by another Decepticon--at which point ''both'' of the charging, unfamiliar robots were killed by Optimus Prime and Prowl. Though Prime at first felt shock and guilt, Prowl convinced him that as the Autobots' symbolically perfect leader he did not have the luxury of such emotions and doubts and that it would do vastly more damage to ever admit to the facts. The two swear to secrecy and put a cover story in place, as Prowl recycles Geosensus' remains. {{storylink|Parts}}

==Notes==
* Geosensus is described as being huge: in vehicle mode he can barely fit through a door large enough for Optimus Prime, and in robot mode he crushes the attacking Decepticon with a "massive" arm.
* His scanning-mining-array-thingie mode can move its equipment to allow him to express himself with emotive body language.

[[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Prose-only Transformers]]

Talk:Agent 113

2010-11-24T21:20:06Z

152.15.24.58: New page: All right, so was it Nick, James, or Josh that went to CalArts? --Andrusi 16:18, 24 November 2010 (EST)

All right, so was it Nick, James, or Josh that [[wikipedia:A113|went to CalArts?]] --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 16:18, 24 November 2010 (EST)

Prowl (Universe)

2010-11-24T21:03:27Z

152.15.24.58: He doesn't have the 5mm hole he'd need to attach as an arm, and I don't believe he can actually attach at the knee either due to the placement of his standy-hole.

{{disambig3|Prowl}}
{{factions|autobot}}
:''Prowl is an [[Autobot]] [[Protectobot (Universe)|Protectobot]] from the [[Universe (2003 franchise)|Universe]] conflict.''
[[Image:MC-TFU03-toy RoadPolice-Prowl.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Yes, he is wearing a tie.]]
A member of the [[Micromaster]] [[Protectobot (Universe)|Protectobots]], '''Prowl''' fights against the forces of the evil [[Unicron]]. He forms the chest of [[Defensor (Universe)|Defensor]]. His relationship to any other "Prowl," including the three dozen others active in the conflict, is unknown.

__TOC__
{{-}}

==Fiction==
===Universe===
[[Image:TFUjailbreak.jpg|left|thumb|250px|]]
Prowl was one of the many Transformers held in the [[Cauldron]], the death-pit deep within the shattered remains of Unicron. He and the other Protectobots formed [[Defensor (Universe)|Defensor]] when [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] and [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] released the prisoners, making a break for freedom. {{storylink|Escape (issue)|Escape}}

{{note|Prowl's only appearance in the comic is as Defensor's chest.}}

{{-}}

==Toys==
===''Universe''===
*'''Prowl''' (Micromaster Protectobot, 2003)
**''Accessories'': Defensor torso, head

: An [[exclusive]] to [[KB Toys]] stores, Prowl appears to have no significant differences from the Japanese 2002 ''[[Micromaster Collection]]'' re-release of [[Road Police]], transforming into an Acura NSX police cruiser. He can form either the chest (his nominal placement) or the "spine" of the combined Defensor robot.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Autobot/MMProwl/prowl.htm More information on Prowl at TFU.info]''

[[Category:Micromasters]]
[[Category:Protectobots]]
[[Category:Universe characters]]

Power Core Combiners

2010-11-24T20:06:20Z

152.15.24.58: /* 5-packs */ clarifying

{{disambig2|the real-world toyline|the in-fiction technology|Power Core Combination}}

[[Image:PCCLogo.jpg|center]]

'''Power Core Combiners''' is a toyline, released concurrently with the [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|2010 ''Transformers'']] and ''[[Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' toylines.

The design of the toys relies heavily on the titular [[gimmick]], [[Combiner|combination]]. Every main character is a "[[Commander (PCC)|Commander]]" sold with either a [[Mini-Con]] (which connects in several configurations) or a set of four [[drone]] vehicles (which connect as limbs to form a larger robot). The Mini-Cons and drones can be attached to any Commander, so hundreds of combinations are possible between all of the figures.

Unlike the Mini-Cons of [[Unicron Trilogy|previous]] [[Classics (2006)|lines]], the Power Core Combiner Mini-Cons lack their own independent vehicle or animal modes. Rather, they turn from robots into accessories for their Commanders. In vehicle mode, a Commander can use a Mini-Con as a weapon or tool. In robot mode, a Commander can wield a Mini-Con as a hand-held weapon or wear him as armor.

The drones are similar to ''[[Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'' [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]'s "[[Prime Force]]", being vehicles with no robot modes. While the drones are left/right interchangeable, an arm-drone cannot become a leg-drone (or vice versa) making them more limited than the Prime Force drones. However, the fact that there are several teams of drones who can be swapped among Commanders adds a [[Special Teams|Scramble-City-esque]] dimension of play. Also, people who love [[Transformer]]s but hate transforming can breathe easy in the knowledge that the drones [[Automorph Technology|automorph]] into and out of limb mode simply by being plugged into and removed from a Commander.

Fictionally, the Power Core Combiners are not strictly connected to any other [[continuity]],<ref>"...they basically exist on their own." [http://www.cybertron.ca/boards/showthread.php?t=27064 October Hasbro Transformers Q&A Answers for Cybertron.ca]</ref> although Smolder and Chopster have made an appearance in the [[Movie continuity]] via ''[[Cyber Missions]]''.

==Fiction==
The toys' packaging presents a simple storyline about [[Power Core Combination]] technology being found on [[Earth]]. A more robust account was published in the [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 32|Collectors' Club magazine #32]]. As of yet there has been no narrative fiction, only summaries and [[bio]]s. As for which larger continuity (if any) this fits into, clues are scant and contradictory: The "Gestalt Process" is described in [[Devastator (ROTF)|horrific terms]] that match only the [[live-action film series]]; however, [[Huffer (PCC)|Huffer]]'s bio says that he's "just as inclined to grumble as he's ever been,"<ref>Huffer's on-package bio</ref> despite having never appeared in the movie universe before. Rather, this is clearly inspired by his ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' [[Huffer (G1)|namesake]]. Any conclusions are up to the reader to make.

==Toys==
===Power Core Combiners===
====Commander 2-packs====
Each 2-pack contains a Commander (who turns into a robot and a vehicle) and a Mini-Con (who turns into a robot and various accessory modes for the Commander). Each Commander also has a torso mode with a different head, and this can be combined with any of the drone sets from the 5-packs (see below). Commanders also have standard Mini-Con [[Powerlinx]] plugs, so they are compatible with any Mini-Cons, not just their pack-in partners.

'''Wave 1'''
* [[Huffer (PCC)|Huffer]] (semi cab) and [[Caliburst (PCC)|Caliburst]] (cannon)
* [[Searchlight (PCC)|Searchlight]] (rescue helicopter) and [[Backwind]] (winch)
* [[Smolder]] (fire department brush truck) and [[Chopster]] (axe)

'''Wave 2'''
* [[Icepick (PCC)|Icepick]] (snowcat arctic vehicle) and [[Chainclaw (PCC)|Chainclaw]] (missile launcher)
* [[Leadfoot (PCC)|Leadfoot]] (F1 racer) and [[Pinpoint]] (cannon/engine)
* [[Sledge (PCC)|Sledge]] (rockwheel trencher construction vehicle) and [[Throttler]] (drill)

'''Wave 3'''
* [[Windburn]] (Searchlight redeco) and [[Darkray]] (Caliburst redeco)
* [[Darkstream]] (Skyburst redeco) and [[Razorbeam]] (Chopster redeco)
* [[Steelshot]] (Bombshock redeco) and [[Beacon]] (Backwind redeco)

'''Future Waves'''
* [[Heavytread (PCC)|Heavytread]] (tank) and [[Groundspike]] (mine plow)
* [[Skyhammer (PCC)|Skyhammer]] (fighter jet) and [[Airlift]] (cannon)
* [[Undertow (PCC)|Undertow]] (speedboat) and [[Waterlog (PCC)|Waterlog]] (gun emplacement)
* [[Salvage (PCC)|Salvage]] (Mudslinger redeco) and [[Bomb-Burst (PCC)|Bomb-Burst]] (Chainclaw redeco)
{{comingsoontoy}}

====5-packs====
Each 5-pack contains a Commander (who turns into a robot and a vehicle) and four drones (which turn into vehicles and limbs). The drones have an [[Automorph Technology|automatic]] "deploy" transformation when they attach and an automatic retract feature to vehicle mode when detached. Arm-drones and leg-drones cannot swap functions--they ''can'' be attached to each others' connection points, but arms will always be arms and legs will always be legs. Each drone has Mini-Con [[Powerlinx]] [[peg|hardpoint]]s. Any set of drones can combine with any Commander, even the ones sold in 2-packs.

'''Wave 1'''
* [[Bombshock (PCC)|Bombshock]] with [[Combaticon (PCC)|Combaticon]] drones
* [[Skyburst]] with [[Aerialbot (PCC)|Aerialbots]] drones

'''Wave 2'''
* [[Double Clutch (PCC)|Double Clutch]] with [[Rallybot]] drones
* [[Mudslinger (PCC)|Mudslinger]] with [[Destructicon (PCC)|Destructicon]] drones

'''Wave 3'''
* [[Stakeout (PCC)|Stakeout]] (Smolder redeco) with [[Protectobot (PCC)|Protectobot]] drones (Aerialbot & Combaticon redecoes)
* [[Crankcase (PCC)|Crankcase]] (Huffer redeco) with [[Destron (PCC)|Destron]] drones (Aerialbot & Combaticon redecoes)

'''Future Waves'''
* [[Steamhammer (PCC)|Steamhammer]] with [[Constructicon (PCC)|Constructicon]] drones
* [[Grimstone]] with [[Dinobot (PCC)|Dinobot]] drones
* [[Spastic]] with [[Stunticon (PCC)|Stunticon]] drones
{{comingsoontoy}}

====Exclusive value packs====
'''[[Toys"R"Us]]'''
* Skyburst with Aerialbots (Includes Skyburst, Searchlight, Backwind, and the Aerialbots)

==References==
<references />

[[Category:Franchises]]
[[Category:Power Core Combiners| ]]

Inferno (Movie)

2010-10-18T15:14:13Z

152.15.24.58: /* Transformers (2007) */

{{factions|autobotfilm}}
{{disambig3|Inferno}}
:''Inferno is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|2007 movie franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Infernomovieprimedirectives.jpg|right|400px|thumb|That's some bold posing for a shrink.]]
The horrors of war left many Autobots in emotional turmoil, unsure whether there was even a point to functioning. That's where the psychologist '''Inferno''' comes in. Using complicated diagnostic programs to analyse the feelings of his fellow Autobots, he then adds and adjusts software and code to let his patients cope with their feelings.

Everyone still recognizes [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] first, though. Tough break.

==Fiction==
====IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics====
[[Image:Infernomoviedefiance.jpg|left|300px|thumb|Nobody upstages Big Daddy!]]
After the alien invasion that was a precursor to the Transformers' civil war, Inferno was among a handful of Autobots who assisted [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]] in assessing damage. {{storylink|Defiance issue 2}}

Inferno, part of a small group of Autobots guarding the ruins of [[Tyger Pax]], found themselves under attack by countless [[Decepticon|Decepticons]], unaware that they guarded the true location of the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]]. As the onslaught intensified, their leader [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] led them into a suicide play, giving them some clue of the true importance of their mission. They collapsed the ruined substructure around themselves, trapping as many Decepticons with them as possible and buying precious time for the All Spark to be removed from the Decepticons' grasp.

Inferno suffered major torso damage at the <s>hands</s> thrusters of a [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]]-type drone just before the roof collapsed and was not seen again. His fate remains unknown. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 1|Prime Directive issue 1}}

{{note|Inferno was unnamed in either appearance. For his appearance in the first movie prequel, his name was supplied by artist [[Don Figueroa]], though colorist [[Josh Burcham]] claimed he is merely a generic. His second appearance was based on his toy.}}
{{-}}

==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
[[Image:Movie Inferno toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|EN-FUR-NOH! WOO-WOO-WOO-WOO-WOO!]]
*'''Inferno''' (Voyager Class, 2008)
**''Accessories'': Claw-missile, disc projectile, claw attachment, blaster attachment

: A [[Toys"R"Us]] [[exclusive]] redeco of ''[[Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]], Inferno transforms into a red Nissan Patrol rescue SUV. When a [[Mini-Con]] is attached to his hood-mounted Mini-Con port, the grille springs open. Pulling back on the attached Mini-Con launches a rescue disk/missile. Similarly, when a Mini-Con is used on his emergency lights port and is pushed forward, the sirens flash and a voice chip activates. It still says "RED UH-LURT! WOOWOOWOOWOOWOOWOOWOO!"

: In robot mode, pulling back on the Mini-Con unlocks a shoulder-mounted missile/rescue grappling claw launcher, which can also be detached and held in his hand. His right leg guard contains several tools that can be attached onto his left wrist socket (or hand-held, as seen in stock photography), while his left leg guard can be unfolded to become a Mini-Con repair bay. He comes with his Mini-Con partner [[Longarm (Movie Mini-Con)|Longarm]].

: This mold was also used to make ''[[Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'' [[Prowl (Energon)|Prowl]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/Inferno/inferno.htm More information on Inferno at TFU.info]''

{{-}}

==Notes==
[[Image:Movie Ratchet 2005Concept.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Ratchet preferred yellow, so Inferno gets sloppy seconds.]]
* Inferno's appearance in [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s [[Movie Prequel (2007)|prequel comics]] was based on the preproduction design of Movie [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] (see right). After [[DreamWorks]] decided to make Ratchet a different rescue vehicle and yellow, artist [[Don Figueroa]] repurposed the original design for Inferno.

* Later, Inferno got a toy via inspiration from the same preproduction materials. According to [[Hasbro]] designer [[Joe Kyde]]'s [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/default.cfm?page=News/Item&newsid=4EC7EA7D-D56F-E112-46AC70D02754072E design notes on Hasbro's Transformers website], Generation 1 [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]], the preproduction color scheme of movie [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], and [[Micromaster]] [[Tote]] were inspirations for Inferno's color scheme.

[[Category:Autobots]]
[[Category:Movie characters]]
[[Category:Toys "R" Us exclusives]]

Rumble (disambiguation)

2010-10-18T13:56:41Z

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The name '''Rumble''' has been assigned to several different characters:

*'''1984''' — [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]], the evil [[Decepticon]] [[Mini-Cassette]] from [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]].
*'''2009''' — [[Rumble (SG)|Rumble]], the noble Decepticon Mini-Cassette from the "[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]" alternate universe.
*'''2010''' — [[Rumble (ROTF)|Rumble]], the Decepticon rhinoceros from the ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' portion of the [[Live-action film series]]
*'''2010''' — [[Rumble (Prime)|Rumble]], the evil [[Decepticon]] [[Mini-Con]] from [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)| Prime]].

Rumble should not be confused with:

*'''1990''' — [[Crumble]], the heroic [[Autobot]] [[Micromaster]] crane from Generation 1.
*'''1991''' — [[Rumbler (G1)|Rumbler]], the heroic Autobot [[Action Master]] from Generation 1.
*'''2008''' — [[Rumbler (SG)|Rumbler]], the heroic Decepticon [[drone]] from Shattered Glass.

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Roller (G1)

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:''Roller is a component of [[Autobot]] leader [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Roller .jpg|right|350px|thumb|Roller should not look this cool.]]
In robot mode, Optimus Prime splits into three components:

*A sentient robot module, the [[Brain Center]]
*A wheeled drone module known as '''Roller'''.
*A [[Combat Deck]].

Although Optimus Prime can function as three independent modules, injury to any one module is felt by the other two.

Roller is a small, cart-shaped device that Optimus Prime uses to slip unobtrusively behind enemy lines. He can maintain radio control over Roller at distances up to 1200 miles. Having Roller present somewhere is like being there himself.

Roller is a droid, able to function autonomously without Optimus's active oversight. But without Optimus, by far the most important of the three modules, Roller would not survive. Optimus shows great attachment and concern for Roller, who is left particularly vulnerable by the behind-the-scenes situations in which it specializes.

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
====Generation 1 cartoon====
[[Image:Roller deploy.jpg|left|180px|thumb|Roller's one tough little Autobot.]]
When [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] were caught by [[Decepticon|Decepticons]], and with the clock ticking on the bomb they planted, Optimus Prime sent Roller into the mine. When the bomb exploded, Optimus was nearly destroyed, but Roller emerged cheekily unscathed, prompting [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] to observe "Roller's one tough little Autobot!" {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 2}} {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 3}}

[[Image:Roller outsmart.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Roller exploits a tactical opening.]]

Another of [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron's]] schemes involved sabotaging the Autobots' recharging chamber with a personality destabilizer device, turning a good number of them, including Optimus Prime, "evil". When the unaffected Autobots attempted to restore Prime back to normal, he split into his three components. Both Roller and the Combat Deck attempted to take the Autobots out, but [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] was able to nail them both with attitude exchangers. However, that left then with only one more exchanger. Not wanting to chance a miss, Bumblebee risked his life to attach it to Prime personally. Luckily, he was successful. {{storylink|Attack of the Autobots}}

The Autobots were stuck in automotive mode by the evil [[Transfixatron]]. With [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] in the claws of Megatron's car-crushing machine, only Roller could save the day! Roller led the Decepticons on a merry chase, allowing Optimus to rescue Ironhide from the jaws of undignified death! {{storylink|The Autobot Run}}

{{note|Megatron would later succeed in killing Ironhide in an undignified manner during [[The Transformers: The Movie|the movie]], when Roller was not around.}}

====Japanese cartoon continuity====
=====e-Hobby toy bio=====
Several million years ago on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], when Optimus Prime was a mere transport and delivery worker known as Orion Pax, Roller was an industrial droid known as '''Barrelroller'''.<ref>The name "Barrelroller" only appears in the official English-language translations of Orion Pax's bio on Takara's e-Hobby site. In the Japanese-language version of the bio—both online and on the pack-in bio card from the toy—Barrelroller is called simply "Roller".</ref> He transformed into an electromagnetic lift handle that helped Orion in his warehouse work moving heavy cargo. When Orion was fatally wounded by Megatron and rebuilt by [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] as Optimus Prime, Barrelroller was rebuilt into the Roller we all know and love.

=====''Return of Convoy''=====
When Optimus Prime was restored to life as Star Convoy, he was equipped with an upgraded version of Roller known as the '''Tread Unit'''.

===Marvel Comics continuity===
{{noteukonly}}
====Generation 1====
''Optimus Prime used his Roller unit to command a battle in [[Washington, D.C.]] while actually sneaking away from the action to find [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]]. [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] swooped in and destroyed Roller, causing Optimus Prime to double over in pain, and ironically saving him from the Insecticon [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]]'s [[cerebro-shell]].'' {{storylink|Plague of the Insecticons!}}

[[Image:Roller g2.jpg|left|100px|thumb|Roller's extreme phase in the '90s.]]
====Generation 2====
Roller provided covering fire for Optimus Prime and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] as they fled the [[Cybertronian Empire]]. {{storylink|Total War!}}

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===Ladybird continuity===
[[Image:MegatronsFightforPower_Roller.jpg|right|150px|thumb|]]
[[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]]'s sally to sneakily sabotage the Solar Station was stymied by a sealed storage-door. Roller to the Rescue! Sent scuttling through the sage, secreted from [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]'s sight, to supply a Cybertronian sonic multi-tool. Roller had saved the day!

''Spike's subsequent sabotage of the solar station and ensuing detonation of the [[Energon cube|energon cubes]] in it could be construed (in some small way) to save the day as well.''
{{storylink|Megatron's Fight for Power}}

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===IDW comics continuity===
[[Image:Escalation5 Roller.jpg|left|150px|thumb|You feelin' lucky, punk?]]
Roller was being considered for an exploring mission, but lost out to [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Wheelie}}

Megatron ordered [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] to wait for Optimus Prime to come into range before firing on him. Optimus discreetly sent Roller ahead to intercept Blitzwing, and at the last moment, Roller blew him up good. {{storylink|Escalation issue 4}} Unfortunately, the same trick didn't work on Megatron, who buried the poor guy under a pile of rocks. However, this bought Optimus Prime the time to transfer his consciousness to his trailer section. {{storylink|Escalation issue 5}}

{{note|Megatron said he remembered about the existence of Roller, but since he spoke of Prime as a pair, he is possibly unaware of the [[Combat Deck]].}}

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==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:Roller g1 toy.jpg|right|thumb|Many colors: Roller has been released in Dark Blue (shown,) Light Blue, Purple, Dark Purple, Silver and Black.]]
*'''Optimus Prime''' (1984)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-01'''

: Roller was included with the original Optimus Prime toy (as well as its many rereleases). Roller is a small, six-wheeled vehicle that is stored in the trailer portion. The seats are scaled to allow Roller to carry [[Diaclone]] figures, due to its use in the prior toyline. The [[trailer]]/[[Combat Deck]] features a spring-loaded device that is capable of launching Roller out of the combat deck. Roller has a hole on top to hold the included oil pump or Optimus's gun. As a result of the original Optimus Prime's production variants (prior to rerelease), Roller was molded in silver plastic (the trailer's exterior color) as well as various shades of blue, indigo and purple (mold colors of the corresponding Optimus's fists/legs/Combat Deck unit).
:: As an homage to the silver Roller pictured in the G1 cartoon, some 2000s re-issues of Optimus Prime/Convoy have included Roller molded in that Prime's blue color, only ''painted'' silver. (Only the ''New Year Special'' and 25th Anniversary Rollers have been left blue, and unpainted.)
:: JAFCon 2000 Convoy's Roller was black, along with the rest of him.)

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/OptimusPrime/optimusprime.htm More information on Roller (with Optimus Prime) at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:Barrelroller g1.jpg|right|thumb|The joke "do a barrel roll" has been used so many times now it's lost meaning.]]
* '''Orion Pax''' (2006)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''67'''

: This Japanese e-Hobby exclusive was a redeco of [[Targetmaster]] [[Recoil]]. As Orion Pax is meant to represent an early version of Optimus Prime, his Targetmaster partner, Barrelroller, is meant to represent an early version of Roller. This is the first version of Roller actually to transform, from robot to an electromagnetic lift handle.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Cybertron/OrionPax/orionpax.htm More information on Barrelroller (with Orion Pax) at TFU.info]''
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===Return of Convoy===
* '''Star Convoy''' (Powered Master, 1991, 2005)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-372'''

: This toy from the ''[[Return of Convoy (franchise)|Return of Convoy]]'' line included an upgraded Roller named '''Tread Unit''', patterned after a tracked ballistic missile carrier.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1991/Cybertron/StarConvoy/starconvoy.htm More information on Tread Unit (with Star Convoy) at TFU.info]''

===Generation 2===
* '''Optimus Prime''' (1993, 1994)

: A slightly altered version of the original Generation 1 Optimus Prime, it included Roller.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1993/Autobot/OptimusPrime/optimusprime.htm More information on ''Generation 2'' Roller (with Optimus Prime) at TFU.info]''

===Smallest Transforming Transformers===
* '''G1 Convoy Trailer''' (2003)
**''Japanese ID Number:'' '''GTF-01B (trailer)'''

: The Combat Deck was available separately as a shortpacked figure. Included was a tiiiiny Roller. Awww!

: In wave 2.5, it was again available in cartoon colors as a chase figure.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Cybertron/SmallestCombatDeck/combatdeck.htm More information on ''Smallest'' Roller (with Combat Deck) at TFU.info]''

===Hybrid Style===
*'''G1 Convoy''' (2006)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''THS-02'''

: THS-02 G1 Convoy is a finely detailed, partially die-cast metal transforming toy of G1 Optimus Prime. It comes with a fully transforming and highly detailed trailer that opens up into its Combat Deck/repair bay, as well as Roller, who features four-wheel steering.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Cybertron/HybridConvoy/convoy.htm More information on ''Hybrid Style'' Roller (with Optimus Prime) at TFU.info]''

===Masterpiece===
*'''Roller is not part of the so-called Convoy Complete Edition''' (2006)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MP-4'''

: The indignity!

===Encore===
*'''Convoy''' (2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''01'''

: Roller is included in this reissue of the original Optimus Prime toy, painted in "anime" colors (light gray).

===Universe (2008)===
*'''Optimus Prime 25th Anniversary Pack'''

:Roller is reissued with Optimus in blue, as Hasbro wanted the unit to match Prime's fists. It was originally intended to be grey.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/25thOptimusPrime/optimusprime.htm More information on 25 Anniversary Roller (with Optimus Prime) at TFU.info]''

==Notes==
*Prime's original character description, as seen in the [[Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)|''Transformers Universe'']] profile comic, named the robot module "Optimus" and the drone module "Prime", noting that the Prime module is also known as Roller. However, in practice, these names were never used. The robot module was always treated as if named "Optimus Prime", with "Prime" even being his most common nickname.
*A reference to this "Prime module" was retained in ''Universe'''s [[Powermaster]] Optimus Prime profile, so the little guy must still be around, despite not being included with the Powermaster toy.
*Early [[:Image:EarlyPMPrime3.jpg|concept drawings]] for Powermaster Prime, as seen in ''[[Transformers Generations]]'', made him a [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]/Powermaster, with a four-wheeled Roller forming the head.
*When the Powermaster Optimus Prime toy was re-released as part of the Commemorative Series in 2003, it included the "[[Apex Bomber]]", a rechristened [[Godbomber]]. In the on-package bio, Apex Bomber was described as a "roller drone" under Prime's control.
*Roller was renamed "Scout Car" in a profile in [[War Without End (issue)|issue #1]] of the [[Generation 2 (Fleetway comic)|UK ''Generation 2'' comic]].
*Roller was supposed to have a minor role in [[Ginrai]]'s ''[[Binaltech]]'' toy bio (written by [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]]), but the toy was ultimately used as [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] and so the bio went unused. In this storyline, a new Dodge Ram Binaltech body was built for Roller, but was instead possessed by Ginrai as he travelled through time to save his own future.

==External links==
* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Optimus_Prime Optimus Prime's Universe profile at NTFA.net]
* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Optimus_Prime_PM Powermaster Optimus Prime's Universe profile at NTFA.net]
*[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Cybertron/SmallestCombatDeck/combatdeck.htm Smallest Transforming Transformers Roller (with Combat Deck) at TFU.info.]
*[http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/cgi-bin/omc?&port=33301&req=PRODUCT&code=tfce_34 Orion Pax's e-HOBBY bio.]

== Footnotes ==
<references />

[[Category:Autobots]]
[[Category:Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category:Generation 2 characters]]
[[Category:Drones]]

Overflow

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:''Overflow is an [[Autobot]] [[Micromaster]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:OverflowBoxart.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Wasn't this a Pearl Jam song?]]

'''Overflow''' is half of the Autobot [[Battlefield Headquarters]] team, along with his [[combiner]] partner [[Full-Barrel]]. He is calm, meticulous, and would spend hours perfecting his battlefield strategies, if he didn't have to keep an eye on Full-Barrel all the time. <ref>''[[More Than Meets The Eye]]'' #4</ref>

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1-toy Overflow.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hangs out with [[Godbomber]] and [[Overload (Armada)|Overload]] on weekends.]]
* '''Micromaster Combiner Autobot Battlefield Headquarters''' (1990)
**''Accessories'': "Battle truck", 2 "scrambler guns", 2 "laser machine guns", 2 "air-to-air missiles", 2 "cruise missiles"

: Overflow transforms into <s>a wheeled box</s> the rear half of a tractor-trailer rig. As a [[Micromaster Combiner]], he can combine with any other Micromaster Combiner, [[Micromaster Combiner Transport|Combiner Transport]] or [[Micro Trailer]] to create weird new vehicle modes. He was sold with [[Full-Barrel]], and together they came with the massive Battlefield Headquarters.

::*''[http://tfu.info/1990/Autobot/Overflow/overflow.htm More information on Overflow at TFU.info]''

==Notes==
* Amusingly, [[Full-Barrel]] and Overflow form a perfect miniature version of the Battlefield Headquarters they drive, even having the Headquarters' folded wings sculpted into their sides. Both the Battlefield Headquarters and Full-Barrel/Overflow even split in the same place in vehicle mode.

==Footnotes==
<references/>

[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Combiners]]
[[Category: Defense specialists]]
[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category: Micromasters]]
[[Category: Toy-only characters]]

First Transformers

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[[Image:Myfirst symbol.png|thumb|right|250px|This looks cooler upside-down.]]
'''First Transformers''' is a Transformers toyline initially produced in 1986. It was the first Transformers line specifically aimed at a demographic younger than the standard "5 and up" target age group.

A point of particular note is that its toys have their own faction symbol, which resembles a very cute, rounded Autobot symbol but is neither [[Autobot]] nor [[Decepticon]].

Neither the characters nor the symbol have ever appeared in any fiction, though since the [[Optimus (faction)|Optimus]] and [[Malignus]] finally did so in mid-2008, their days of total media obscurity are probably numbered...

The concept of the line would later be revived in the [[1-2-3 Transformers]] toys marketed through Hasbro's [[Tonka]] brand.

==Toyline==
[[Playskool]] released 3 unnamed ''First Transformers'' toys in the United States in 1986: a race car, a dump truck and an airplane. In 1987, these 3 toys were released in Japan, now called Racer-kun, Dump-kun and Jet-kun. ("-kun" is an affectionate/diminutive Japanese suffix commonly applied to names given to young males.) All three were released in the US again in 1993 with various [[Redeco|new decos]] and [[retool]]ed parts, but still without names. Another curious point of difference is that the original toys were recommended for "ages 1-3", while the reissues were targeted for "ages 2 & up".

* [[Racer-kun]]
* [[Dump-kun]]
* [[Jet-kun]]

==External Links==
*[http://www.gobotsarepurelove.com/toys/first.shtml First Transformers gallery] - Go-Bots are Pure Love Fansite

[[Category:Factions]]

Animorph

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{{disambig2|organic beings empowered with the ability to "morph"|the toyline based on their exploits|Animorphs (toyline)}}
:''The Animorphs are a [[Human]] and [[Alien]] [[Subgroup|subgroup]] from the [[Animorphs (toyline)|Animorphs]] [[Continuity family|continuity family]].''
"The '''Animorphs'''" can't tell [[you]] who they are, or where they live. It's too risky, as the [[Yeerk]]s are among [[human|us]]. Their only power to combat this empire of alien slugs is the ability given to them by the [[Andalite]] Prince [[Elfangor]]: by touching any animal, they may acquire that creature's form. Though only a small group of kids, they are [[Earth]]'s only chance for survival.

The Animorphs consist of:
*[[Jake (Animorphs)|Jake]] (leader)
*[[Aximili-Esgarrouth-Isthill]]
*[[Cassie]]
*[[Marco]]
*[[Rachel (Animorphs)|Rachel]]
*[[Tobias]]

[[Category:Animorphs| ]]
[[Category:Subgroups]]

Mega Expansion Wings

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[[Image:Tobiasweapons.jpg|right|thumb|550px]]
The '''Mega Expansion Wings''' allows the [[Animorph]] [[Tobias]] to soar high above the [[Earth]], and act as humanity's "one-bird air force" against the [[yeerk]] invaders. What special properties his wings possess to distinguish them from any other hawks' is unknown, though they are emphasized as being "powerful"<ref>Tobias's Mega toy's bio</ref>. They are also referenced as being "blast-open wings," though it appears to simply be a description of what they do, rather than an alternative moniker.
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==Toys==
===''Animorphs''===
* '''Tobias/Hawk''' (Deluxe, 1999)

: Part of the first wave of ''Animorphs'' toys, Tobias transforms from a human with bird feet hanging from his arms into a hawk, as well as a transitional third mode combining features from both. He has no accessories. He features "[[Mega Expansion Wings]]" as well as "retractable talons".
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Animorphs/TobiasHawk/tobias.htm More information on Tobias (deluxe) at tfu.info]''

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* '''Tobias''' (Mega, 1999)

: Tobias's second retail toy transforms from a raptor hawk to a more human-like form. He also features a transitional third mode, which is simply his more human form with a alternate head, featuring a blend of human and hawk features, whereas his main head is fully human in appearance. While he possesses no accessories, he features two spring-loaded gimmicks: two-stage "blast-open WINGS" and gripping talons. His wings gimmick are activated by a tab that can be pushed down on his tail, first causing his wings to go from a position where they are resting on either side of his body, to a stance where his wings are now perpendicular to their original position. Pushing the tab on his tail further causes the four segments composing the majority of his wings to spread out, leading to a stance giving the impression that Tobias is in mid-flight. His talon gimmick on both feet involve pushing his rear talons to cause the ones in the front to flip backwards, closing his grip. Both of these gimmicks are accessible in all modes, and must be reset manually. Tobias also features an articulated beak in beast mode. His transformation is fairly simply; it involves reversing his knees, opening the hawk's chest cavity revealing the two human arms, followed by flipping the bird's head within the body, revealing the human mode head and chest. It is at this final stage that one can choose to either utilize the figures half-way or fully human head, as they are on opposite sides of a spin-dial like device. What results in either case, is far from what one would call a convincing human mode, as the figures wings, tail, talons, as well as most of the hawk's body is in plain sight.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Animorphs/MegaTobiasHawk/tobias.htm More information on Tobias (mega) at tfu.info]''

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Animorphs franchise]]
[[Category:Weapons]]

Scythe Claws

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[[Image:Axpantherweapons.jpg|right|thumb|350px]]
The '''Scythe Claws''' are [[Aximili-Esgarrouth-Isthill]]'s answer to [[yeerk]] invaders. These powerful claws, along with the speed and strength also provided by his panther morph, seem to be used primarily for intimidation purposes, as the [[Andalite]] himself confesses that he "[watches] the enemy run away in fear" upon deploying them.<ref>Ax's deluxe toy bio</ref> The Scythe Claws apparently include thumbs, something not possessed by regular panthers.

It is unclear what, if anything, differentiates the Scythe Claws from the apparently identical [[Saber Claws]].

==Toys==
===Animorphs===
[[Image:Axpanther.jpg|right|200px|thumb]]
* '''Ax/Panther''' (Deluxe, 1999)
**''Accessories:'' Left paw, right paw

: Ax's second retail toy is a [[Retool|retooling]] of [[Jake (Animorphs)|Jake/Tiger]], transforming from a funny-looking human into a panther, as well as a transitional third mode combining features from both. His panther mode front claws are separate pieces that attach like gloves named "[[Scythe Claws]]." Although this toy has no alien mode, the transitional mode's head has features that suggest an Andalite-to-panther transition rather than a human-to-panther transition.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Animorphs/AxPanther/ax.htm More information on Ax (Panther) at tfu.info]''

==See also==
* [[Raker Claws]]
* [[Saber Claws]]
* [[Attack Claws]]
* [[Combat Claws]]

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Animorphs franchise]]
[[Category:Weapons]]

Saber Claws

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[[Image:Jaketigerweapons.jpg|right|thumb|350px|thumb|Now Driger! Tiger Claw Attack!]]
Courage might be [[Jake (Animorphs)|Jake]]'s most important asset as leader of the [[Animorph|Animorphs]], but his '''Saber Claws''' come in as a close second, accessible while he is in his tiger morph. One of the features that make these claws any different from the run-of-the-mill tiger's is that they appear to include thumbs.

==Toys==
===Animorphs===

* '''Jake/Tiger''' (Deluxe, 1999)
**''Accessories:'' Left paw, right paw

: Part of the first wave of ''Animorphs'' toys, Jake transforms from a really unconvincing human into a tiger, as well as a transitional third mode combining features from both. His tiger mode front claws, dubbed "Saber Claws," are separate pieces that attach like gloves.

:This toy was [[Retool|retooled]] and redecoed to create [[Aximili-Esgarrouth-Isthill|Ax/Panther]] (the only retool in the line).
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Animorphs/JakeTiger/jake.htm More information on Jake (Tiger) at tfu.info]''

==See also==
* [[Raker Claws]]
* [[Scythe Claws]]
* [[Attack Claws]]
* [[Combat Claws]]

[[Category:Animorphs franchise]]
[[Category:Weapons]]

Attack Claws

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[[Image:Jakegrizzlybearweapons.jpg|right|thumb|350px|He will kill you with his bear hands.]]
[[Jake (Animorphs)|Jake]] claims that on top of being absolutely fearless, Grizzly Bears are all fangs and claws. The '''Attack Claws''' granted to him when he morphs into one of these godless killing machines certainly gives him a boost of courage, even if it is unclear as to what exactly makes them distinct from your average bear's claws.
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==Toys==
* '''Jake/Grizzly Bear''' (Mega, 1999)
**''Accessories:'' Left paw, right paw

: Jake's second toy transforms from a marginally better human into a grizzly bear that looks [[Razor Claw|familiar]], as well as a transitional third mode combining features from both. His bear mode front claws, dubbed "Attack Claws," are separate pieces that attach like gloves.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Animorphs/JakeGrizzly/jake.htm More information on Jake (Grizzly Bear) at tfu.info]''
{{-}}

==See also==
* [[Scythe Claws]]
* [[Saber Claws]]
* [[Raker Claws]]
* [[Combat Claws]]

[[Category:Weapons]] [[Category:Animorphs franchise]]

40-Year-Old Virgin

2010-08-31T18:21:33Z

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:40-Year-Old Virgin'' is a film from the [[Live-action film series|live action film]] [[continuity family]].''

'''''40-Year-Old Virgin''''' is a film that presumably features a person who is forty years of age and has not had sexual intercourse.

In [[Sam Witwicky]]'s view, it is bad for cars to be associated with it.

==Fiction==
===''Transformers'' (2007)===
[[Sam Witwicky]], while looking for a car with [[Ron Witwicky|his father]] at [[Bolivia's Finest Quality Used Cars and Petting Zoo]], disparagingly referred to a car picked out by Ron by first asking him if he saw ''40-Year-Old Virgin'', pointing out the car was it. Sam then pointed to another car and referred to it as "50-Year Old Virgin". {{storylink|Transformers (2007)|Transformers}}

==External Links==
*[[wikipedia:The 40-Year-Old Virgin|''The 40-Year-Old Virgin'' on Wikipedia]]

[[Category:External properties]]
[[Category:Films]]
[[Category:Movie]]

Ancient Autobot survivor

2010-08-13T13:46:37Z

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{{factions|autobot}}
{{disambig2|the Autobot survivor on a Decepticon-dominated Cybertron from one obscure story book|the creeeepy ghosts that tormented Galvatron when he stole the Matrix|Ancient Autobots}}
{{Noname-nickname}}
:''Ancient Autobot survivor is an figment of Prime's imagination from the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Returntocybertron-ancientautobot.jpg|right|185px|thumb|It's Mirage's grandpa!]]
This '''ancient Autobot survivor''' is one of the sole survivors of the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]] conquest of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Hiding out in dark alleyways, he survives as best he can. Then [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] leads the cops right to him. Good going, Prime.

==Fiction==
When the entire Earth-based Autobot force was wiped out in a Decepticon raid, Optimus Prime took a one-man shuttlecraft back to Cybertron in search of reinforcements. The only one he found was this guy. Everyone else was (presumably) dead. Then the Decepticon Police jumped them.

The sad part? The old codger was just part of an incredibly elaborate dream that Prime had while KOed by a Decepticon blaster. {{storylink|Return to Cybertron|Return to Cybertron}}

[[Category:Autobots]]
[[Category:Prose-only characters]]
[[Category:Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category:Things that don't exist]]

Thrust (Attacktix)

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:''Thrust is a [[Decepticon]] from an unknown [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Attacktixthrust.jpg|right|250px|thumb|He sure is a Decepticon.]]

'''Thrust''', uh, has a spear. And he turns into a jet. That's about it.

==Toys==
===Attacktix===
*'''Thrust''' (Booster, 2007)

: Two different ''[[Attacktix]]'' Thrust pieces were planned for the ultimately unreleased series-2 "Booster" assortment, each a "super Rare" available in blind-packed Booster Packs. The first was to be a [[redeco]] of the series-1 [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]] robot-mode piece, a 30-point "Specialist" with a spring-loaded spear-stab attack. His Special Power, "Transform", was to let you replace a fallen robot-mode Thrust with his vehicle-mode piece if you have it in your Back-Ups (''not'' the "defeated" pile.)

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[[Image:Attacktix_Thrust_jet.jpg|thumb|right|250px|...Or ''is'' he?]]
*'''Thrust''' (Booster, 2007)

: The second Thrust ''Attacktix'' piece, part of the same Booster set, would have been (of course) a redeco of Skyblast's jet-mode piece, which can pivot up and down and fires a standard ''Attacktix'' missile. A 20-point "Specialist", his Special Power "Transform" would have let you replace the defeated vehicle-mode Thrust with robot-mode Thrust if you have him in your Back-Ups (''not'' the "defeated" pile).

: In Hasbro's [[stock photo]] of the piece (right), the base was mistakenly given Skyblast's label.

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==Notes==
* Thrust ''appears'' to be an entirely new character invented for the second series of Transformers ''Attacktix''. It is ''possible'' that he was intended as a new form for [[Generation 1]] [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] or ''[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]], but since the entire ''Attacktix'' line was canceled, we'll probably never know.

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5 mm post

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[[Image:5mmpostmainpic_001.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Weapons for everybody!]]
One of the simplest innovations in [[toy|Transformers toys]], using universally sized posts for accessories, weapons and figures is something that has characterised several Transformers lines throughout the years. The most common universal post and port size is the '''5-millimetre (5mm) post'''. This size was used throughout [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]], ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'', and almost universally throughout ''[[Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'', ''[[Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' and ''[[Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]''.

Using a single, universal size of weapon post allows Transformers toys to swap weapons between one another. During most Transformers toy lines, this interchangeability was seldom advertised as a feature of the toys, but during ''Armada'', that changed. The introduction of the [[Mini-Con]]s gave 5mm posts an entirely new purpose: A hollow 5mm post could now become a mounting point for a Mini-Con. The interchangeability suddenly became an advertised feature of the toys.

Since the end of the "[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]" toy line, the 5mm post hole has become far less ubiquitous, though it's making a comeback in a big way with [[Power Core Combiners]], and some of the later ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' toys.

==Functionality==
===Backwards compatibility===
[[Image:Primesharingguns.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"Dude, you're right. Guns with their posts in the right place '''rock!'''"]]
Probably the biggest, most meaningful aspect of using a universal fist size is compatibility between toys. You can share your accessories or Mini-Cons or even some integral parts of toys around to other toys from the same line. Even better for long-term fans of the franchise is that the continuous use of 5mm posts from Generation 1 onwards into modern lines means that toys are actually backwards-compatible with the accessories from older toys. As well as delightful opportunities for mixing and matching, this means that characters who get new toys can use accessories from their old toys. Even if you don't like [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Classics|"Classics" Optimus Prime's]] rifle, you can always just give him [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#PMOP|Powermaster Optimus Prime's]] rifle, or [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Return of Convoy|Star Convoy's]].

This compatibility works both ways, allowing you to use ''Armada'', ''Energon'' and even Power Core Combiners weapons with old [[Micromaster]] Bases or [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]s toys.

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===A matter of tolerance===
Despite the fact that 5mm posts are supposed to be universally the same size, this isn't always the case. Sometimes, due to play wear or simply to slight (very slight) differences in tooling, some posts are tighter or looser than others. This can mean that sometimes a toy will hold a gun loosely, or that a weapon will be too tight to fit into another toy's hand.

Generally, this is only a problem on toys or toolings that have seen a lot of use. A Generation 1 toy like [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Generation 1|Soundwave]] that was produced for several years and re-released many times might actually show a difference in tolerance between different samples of the toy. Similarly, toolings which see a lot of use, such as [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Classics|"Classics" Starscream]], can begin to show mould wear. There are many reports of later ''[[Henkei! Henkei! (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' versions of the mould not being able to hold their weapons correctly because tolerances are poor.

If a toy sees a lot of play, especially if weapons are being removed and replaced repeatedly, a hole (or sometimes a post) can wear down, making the weapons looser. It's possible to increase this problem while swapping weapons between different toys. If a gun post from a [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Pretender|Pretender Bumblebee]] is slightly smaller than the post from [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Pretender|Pretender Grimlock]], then Grimlock's gun might actually ''stretch'' Bumblebee's fists. This could result in Bumblebee no longer being able to hold his own gun firmly. It's advisable when swapping guns between different toys to be aware of the slight differences in tolerances between toys.

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===Multiple posts and double posting===
[[Image:Swindlerifle_doublepostdemo.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"Pssst—hey, bud!" "WHO, ME?!" "Shhhhhh!" "Who, me?" "Riiiiiiiiight."]]
Some Transformers toys come with multiple figures, such as a [[Pretender]] shell and its inner robot. Other toys are small and merge with bigger toys to become still larger. Other toys come with a trailer or base which has larger weapons than the core robot. Because of the size difference between the two components, two different weapon post sizes are required.

The early Pretenders usually handle this by simply giving the gun two different posts: a larger 5mm post for the outer shell, and a smaller post for the inner robot. The result is that the two figures hold the same gun in different ways. For the purposes of this article, we'll refer to these as "multiple-post weapons".

Another solution, one often used with combiners, is simply to have the two posts one on top of the other—the smaller post on the bottom and the larger post on the top, both forming the same handle of the gun. The problem with this solution is that, when one gives weapons to unrelated toys, Transformers with fist holes that don't go all the way through the hands (such as [[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys#Armada|''Armada'' Hot Shot]]) often can't hold these guns. We'll call that "double-posting" or "double-posted weapons" for the purposes of this article.

===5mm Screw Holes===
Many Transformers over the years have indented holes to allow screws to hold two pieces of the toy together. These screw holes come in all shapes and sizes but often they are also 5mm ports. Sometimes this is intentional, and the screw hole is deliberately moulded to 5mm to give the toy more functionality. Most of the time though, they aren't intentionally 5mm ports and are either very tight or slightly loose.

5mm screw holes can add functionality to many toys which otherwise aren't 5mm compatible, especially if a fan is creative. However, we have only included 5mm screw holes in the compatibility list bellow if they are particularly notable. So if you suspect a toy's screw holes are 5mm and he's not on the list, at least give it a try.

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===Powerlinx Ports===
[[Image:Armadagalvatron_5mmoverload.jpg|right|250px|thumb|I want it all, and I want it now!]]

During the ''Armada'' toy line, a new spin on the 5mm post and port was developed: the Mini-Con [[Powerlinx]]. Using hollow 5mm posts, Mini-Cons could activate the [[gimmick]]s of other toys or simply mount on other toys. Because the Mini-Cons use a special kind of port, they cannot be mounted on 5mm posts that aren't hollow. In theory, this means only toys with specific Powerlinx ports can hold Mini-Cons. In ''practice'', this isn't the case at all.

Throughout the history of the Transformers franchise, for one reason or another, toys have come with 5mm posts which are hollow, creating a kind of unintentional back-compatibility with many Mini-Cons. We'll list this back-compatibility in individual toy entries further down the page.

The other significant aspect of the Powerlinx ports is that they act like regular 5mm posts too. This means that you can use them to mount any weapons or accessories that are designed to mount on 5mm posts. Does mounting a bunch of miniature cars on [[Starscream (Armada)#toys|''Armada'' Starscream's]] arms seem silly to you? Maybe it's time to use the guns from the Micromaster [[Anti-Aircraft Base]].
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==Generation 1==
In the first few years of the toy line, partly because of the mix-and-match nature of the line itself, ''Transformers'' didn't have very standardised fist sizes. The ''[[Diaclone]]''-descended toys usually had no single standard, with only the toys with the biggest weapons or fists having 5mm posts. The ''[[Micro Change]]''-descended toys were much more consistent about post size, using 5mm posts on almost all of the toys with weapons or accessories.

As Generation 1 evolved 5mm posts and ports became nearly universal. Only the switch to smaller toys with [[Action Master]]s changed this — a new, smaller, universal post size was used for that line. These smaller sized posts carried over into the UK Transformers, while in [[Japan]] the rise of Micromasters lead to 5mm staying predominant throughout the line.

===1984===
'''AUTOBOTS'''
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] The only Autobot this year to use 5mm posts, Prime's main rifle sadly has a terrible design flaw (that has '''never''' been corrected, despite all the reissues) which makes it much less interchangeable with other toys. The gun's handle is moulded in the wrong place, and there's a false handle where the real one should be. Prime has actually been retooled to allow him to hold the rifle better — by increasing the size of the rims on his fists. Too bad they didn't just put the rifle's handle post in the right place. In addition to the rifle, [[Roller]]'s fuel pump is also a 5mm post. It's possible to use this to either give the pump to other toys, or to pump up Roller with some heavy weaponry.)

'''DECEPTICONS'''

All the 1984 Decepticons use 5mm posts in some capacity.
*[[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]]
[[Image:Ravage5mmcompatibility.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Shattered Glass Ravage prefers flowers.]]
*[[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] and [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]] — Due to the post holes in their bodies, they can be pegged onto Mini-Con ports, or similar 5mm posts.

*[[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]],[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] — Their wings ''and'' their weapons have 5mm posts.

*[[Megatron (G1)/toys|Megatron]] — Most notably his large chrome rifle has a 5mm post on it, allowing it to be given to other toys.

===1985===
'''AUTOBOTS'''
*[[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]

*[[Topspin (G1)|Topspin]] and [[Twin Twist]] — These toys do NOT have 5mm post holes, but their rifles have a 5mm base to the gun peg, effectively creating a very shallow double-peg that allows their guns limited inter-changeability with toys with 5mm fists.

*[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]

'''DECEPTICONS'''
*[[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] — Devastator's is a classic double-posted rifle. Devastator's fists are 5mm holes, but he shares his rifle with [[Mixmaster (G1)|Mixmaster]] and his tiny, tiny fists.

*[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] and [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]

*[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] — The strange construction of Blitzwing's weapons make them fairly unappealing for use with other toys. But you can. I guess.

===1986===
1986 saw the introduction of the Transformers Special Teams, or "[[Scramble City]]" combiners. All of these combiners used 5mm posts as standard to peg in their fists and feet in combined mode, meaning you could swap these parts between any of the combiners. The fists of the combined forms almost universally used 5mm holes (all except [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] and [[Piranacon (G1)|Piranacon]]) and almost all the leaders of the teams (except [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]) used 5mm posts for their fists.

The smaller members of the Special Teams almost all had small pistols or rifles that used variably compatible smaller posts, and larger alt mode weapons that used 5mm posts — often taking advantage of post holes used for the combined form's fists or feet. The earlier toys often used weapons with 5mm ports which would peg onto the robot — allowing those weapons to be pegged onto Mini-Con ports and other similar 5mm posts. The later toys tended to use 5mm posts which peg into ports on the toy.

'''AUTOBOTS'''
[[Image:Outback5mmcompatibility.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Where the bloody hell am I? Right here, mate. Right here!]]
*[[Outback]] — The only [[Mini Vehicle]] with a weapon at all, Outback sports a 5mm post that lets him use all kinds of crazy weapons.

*[[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]] and [[Ramhorn]] — But '''not''' [[Rewind]] or [[Eject]], strangely. Ramhorn's peg holes are very loose.

*[[Superion (G1)|Superion]] — Barely. The [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbot]]s are the only Special Team whose leader doesn't use 5mm posts, and who have no members with larger vehicle weapons which use 5mm posts. Superion doesn't have 5mm fists either. Only the posts and ports for the combined form's hands and feet are 5mm posts. Superion even has what looks like a hollow 5mm peg on the underside of his combined form's chest plate — however this peg is just slightly too big to be of use.

*[[Protectobot (G1)|The Protectobots]] — In the standard style of the Scramble City teams, described above.

*[[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]]

*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys|Ultra Magnus]] — Most of Magnus' accessories use 5mm posts. Interestingly enough his rifle has two ways of being held — the large robot uses a larger peg than the small inner robot's 5mm post. So you can only let other toys hold the gun in the same way as Magnus' inner robot.

*[[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] — Uses 5mm posts for his weapons, and his fists. He can happily wear any Scramble City fists instead of his own. [[Six-Gun]] and [[Scamper]] do not use 5mm pegs for their weapons, however [[Slammer]] does. His turret is on a hollow 5mm post so it can be mounted on (or rather under, most of the time) Mini-Cons!

'''DECEPTICONS'''
*[[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]

*[[Stunticon (G1)|The Stunticons]] — In the standard style of the Scramble City teams, described above.

*[[Combaticon (G1)|The Combaticons]] — In the standard style of the Scramble City teams, described above.

*[[Predacon (G1)|The Predacons]] — Unlike the Scramble City toys, all the Predacons use 5mm posts as standard, with no accessories at all with smaller pegs, making all their weapons usable by [[Predaking]].

*[[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] — Only his head-mounted gun, his rifle uses a smaller peg.

*[[Galvatron (G1)/toys|Galvatron]] — However remember, [[Nightmare_Planet|Galvatron's weapons pegs can be any size he wants!]]

*[[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] — [[Full-Tilt]] does ''not'' use 5mm posts. On the other hand the [[Brunt (G1)|Brunt's]] tank turret ''does'' use them. It's completely possible to mount the turret as an arm cannon for an ''Armada'' toy, or anyone else with 5mm posts.

===1987===
By 1987 5mm posts had become almost universal. Only some smaller toys, and those toys without weapon accessories didn't have them.

'''AUTOBOTS'''
*[[Technobot (G1)|The Technobots]] — In the standard style of the Scramble City teams, described in the 1986 section above.

*[[Fastlane]] & [[Cloudraker (G1)|Cloudraker]]

*[[Punch (G1)|Punch-Counterpunch]]

*The [[Monsterbot]]s

*The [[Targetmaster]]s — [[Kup (G1)#Targetmaster|Kup]], [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Targetmaster|Hot Rod]] and [[Blurr (G1)#Targetmaster|Blurr]] were [[retool]]ed to be 5mm peg compatible so that they could use [[Targetmaster]]s this year. The other Targetmaster moulds were all made with 5mm pegs in mind.

*The [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] — [[Fortress Maximus (G1)#Toys|Fortress Maximus]] was the only Headmaster not to use 5mm pegs exclusively. Nearly all his accessories and the weapons for his smaller components were 5mm pegs. However his larger rifles were so huge they used much, much larger peg sizes which are not compatible with any other Transformers mould.

'''DECEPTICONS'''
*[[Terrorcon (G1)|The Terrorcons]] — [[Blot (G1)#Toys|Blot]] and [[Cutthroat (G1)#Toys|Cutthroat]] are the only small Special Teams members outside the Aerialbots not to have alt mode weapons with 5mm posts. Blot has a backpack, and Cutthroat has a transforming tail weapon, instead.

*[[Slugfest (G1)|Slugfest]] & [[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]]

*[[Pounce]] & [[Wingspan]]

*[[Sixshot]]

*The [[Targetmaster]]s — [[Cyclonus (G1)#Targetmaster|Cyclonus]] and [[Scourge (G1)#Targetmaster|Scourge]] were retooled to be able to use the 5mm pegs associated with Targetmasters and released again as part of this range.

*The [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] — Scorponok is the only Decepticon Headmaster not to use 5mm pegs universally. Most of his accessories use them, except for his four large double-barrelled cannons and his shield, which has a slightly wider peg hole. The shield does have a hollow 5mm peg on it, though, allowing you to mount a Mini-Con on the shield. Sweet! Oh yeah, that does mean, by the way, that his tremendously enormous rifle does use both 5mm pegs and 5mm peg holes. Fasttrack doesn't use 5mm pegs for his hands, but his arms are mounted on 5mm pegs, so you can give him all sorts of crazy gun arms.

===1988===
[[Image:Pretender5mmcompatibility.jpg|right|250px|thumb|5mm pegs on Pretenders: A demonstration.]]
1988 introduced a new line dependent on the 5mm peg, the Pretenders. As mentioned above, in the section on multiple posts and double posts, the Pretender shells all had 5mm pegs, while their robots had smaller (less universally sized) pegs. Pretenders usually had at least one weapon (sometimes more) that was meant for both the shell and the inner robot. For the 1988 Pretenders, these weapons had multiple pegs on them, allowing different components to hold them in different ways. These weapons were also usually a part of the Pretender's vehicle mode, and mounted on them in that mode using 5mm pegs.

Later Pretenders used double-posting instead of multiple-posting, so that the inner robots often lacked the 5mm compatibility in their vehicle modes that earlier Pretenders enjoyed. But for 1988 it was 5mm compatible city!

'''AUTOBOTS'''
*[[Grand Slam]] & [[Raindance]]

*The [[Targetmaster]]s

*The [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] — Unlike in 1987, the 1988 Autobot Headmasters had two sets of weapons with different post sizes. There was a single main rifle for the main robot with a 5mm post, and two smaller pistols that were both vehicle mode weapons and antennae for the robots' head.

*The [[Powermaster]]s. — [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#PMOP|Powermaster Prime]] in particular is notable because his weapons are massive, badass and freakin' awesome. You know they are. Admit it.

*[[Quickswitch]]

*The [[Pretender]]s — Including the regular Pretenders, [[Pretender Beast]]s and [[Gunrunner (G1)|Gunrunner]], the [[Pretender Vehicle]].

'''DECEPTICONS'''
[[Image:Skalor5mmcompatibility.jpg|right|250px|thumb|That gun mode stinks!]]
*[[Seacon (G1)|The Seacons]] — Because of his Targetmaster gimmick, [[Piranacon (G1)|Piranacon]] is one of only two (the other being Superion, the piker) Generation 1 combiner robot without 5mm post hole fists. Instead he has special ports for the square pegs which are used as part of the Special Teams style combination. Each of the five smaller Seacons also come with a special Targetmaster stand which allows them to use their gun forms independent of Piranacon. The stand is divided into three parts, a connector, a post and a base. The post is moulded to look like a large rifle and has multiple pegs on it (of different sizes) letting it be held as a weapon both by the small Seacons and by anyone with a 5mm fist. The connector is even cooler, since it has a 5mm post hole and can be used to mount the Seacons on Mini-Con ports or other similar gun posts when in gun mode. It can also be used to make any Scramble City style combiner limb 5mm post compatible, so any of them can become a giant Mini-Con. How awesome is that?

*[[Squawktalk]] & [[Beastbox (G1)|Beastbox]]

*The [[Targetmaster]]s

*The [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] — The small Decepticon Headmasters did not have two sets of weapons like their Autobot counterpart and relied entirely on 5mm posts.

*The [[Powermaster]]s — Doubledealer came with a special Powermaster Engine cover with a 5mm post on it. The post is hollow, allowing you to mount a Mini-Con on it.

*The [[Pretender]]s — Including the regular Pretenders, [[Pretender Beast]]s and [[Roadgrabber]], the [[Pretender Vehicle]].

===1989===
This year introduced the [[Micromaster]]s, as well as introducing a truck load more Pretenders. The Micromasters emphasised inter-compatibility in a way Transformers hadn't really done before. All the bases were able to connect through special ramps, and all the weapons for the bases used 5mm posts. The Micromasters themselves all had small post holes in their feet that corresponded to small posts all over the bases — letting you stand them freely. The Micromasters' association with 5mm pegs would continue through into the Japanese toy lines, and would be reflected in the Mini-Cons who would come down the pipeline many years later.

As we mentioned above the Pretenders this year were a little less 5mm compatible. While the first year Pretenders generally had 5mm ports on their vehicle modes as well as their Pretender shells, those 5mm posts disappeared on most of the inner robots for this year. Instead of using multiple posts on the same weapon more toys this year used a double-post.

'''AUTOBOTS'''

Literally all the Autobot Pretenders from this year used 5mm posts. All of the Micromaster bases and transports except for Overload and [[Hot House]] used 5mm posts for their weapon accessories. Hot House and Overload don't really have any accessories, so that's understandable.
*[[Pincher]], [[Doubleheader]] and [[Longtooth]]
*[[Classic Pretender]]s — [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Bumblebee]], [[Grimlock (G1)/toys|Grimlock]] and [[Jazz (G1)/toys|Jazz]]. These toys were re-released without their shells as [[Legends (G1)|Legends]]. They only came with their smaller weapons, which are double-posted. While the inner robots can't hold 5mm weapons their weapons can be used with other toys. Bumblebee and Jazz's guns were switched for the Legends release, so if you're pedantic about continuity feel free to give Jazz's gun to Classics Bumblebee without feeling guilty.
*[[Crossblades (G1)|Crossblades]] and [[Vroom]]
* [[Skyhammer (G1)|Skyhammer]]

*[[Erector]] and his [[Crane]] — Erector's weapons are all 5mm posts. While Erector's trailer hitch is not a 5mm post it is hollow and works as a 5mm port, allowing Erector to connect to other TFs and bases like a Mini-Con.
*[[Ironworks]]'s [[Construction station]] — In station mode, Ironworks's base has two hollow 5mm posts on its scaffolding section. These are completely compatible with Mini-Cons. In windmill... errr... radar tower mode these two pegs are used to mount the scaffolding to the tower, so aren't accessible.
* [[Groundshaker]]'s [[ATV]] and [[Countdown (G1)|Countdown]]'s [[Rocket Base|Rocket base]]

'''DECEPTICONS'''

All the Decepticon Micromaster bases and transports were 5mm compatible this year in some capacity. The Pretenders also, except for the Monster Pretenders.
*[[Monstructor (G1)|Monstructor]] — As with nearly all combiners, Monstructor uses 5mm fist holes. However none of the individual Monster Pretenders do. Their shell covers sometimes have relatively inaccessible 5mm posts or ports for Monstructor's accessories, but that is more-or-less the extent of their compatibility.
* [[Octopunch]], [[Stranglehold]] and [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]]
*[[Classic Pretender]]s [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]] — Also available as a Legends figure without any of the 5mm compatibility conferred by his shell.
* [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]]
* [[Roadblock (G1)|Roadblock]]

* [[Flattop (Decepticon)|Flattop]]'s [[Aircraft carrier]] and [[Roughstuff]] and his [[Military transport]] — Roughstuff's are the only large Micromaster weapons without 5mm posts, making him far less compatible with other toys than he should be. However his trailer hitch is a 5mm post and port. That might be of... some use.
* [[Greasepit (G1)|Greasepit]]'s [[Gas station]] and [[Airwave]]'s [[Airport]] — Greasepit has a host of little 5mm post accessories that aren't weapons like a set of petrol pumps and a street sign. Airwave's compatibility is limited to having several 5mm ports on the top of his base's station mode.
* [[Skyhopper]]'s [[Helicopter]] and [[Skystalker (G1)|Skystalker]]'s [[Interstellar shuttle]]

===1990===
[[Action Master]]s pretty much dropped the 5mm posts in favour of a smaller standard-sized peg. Some of the bases use 5mm posts for their weapon systems, but for the most part this was the end of 5mm pegs being universal in Transformers for a very long time — it wouldn't happen again until the [[Unicron Trilogy]], almost a decade later.

'''AUTOBOTS'''
[[Image:Lionizer5mmdemo.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Another example of why beards freakin' rock.]]
* [[Lionizer]]. Because of his beard he actually has a double-post, so he has a 5mm post, though it's very tight.

* [[Prowl (G1)/toys#Action Master|Prowl]]'s [[Turbo Cycle]]. — His engine intakes have a 5mm port, so they can be mounted on Mini-Con pegs if you'd like, and his wheel section has a 5mm post. The rest of his accessories use the more standard smaller pegs used by Action Masters.
* [[Over-Run (G1)|Over-Run]]. — While both he and his helicopter aren't really 5mm compatible, he ''does'' have hand-held missile launchers with 5mm post ''holes'' on them. They can be mounted on Mini-Con ports, or you can mount 5mm guns on top of them while Over-Run is holding them — but good luck keeping his arms up. There's a couple of posts on the back of his helicopter as well.
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#AM|Optimus Prime's]] [[Armored Convoy]] — Has a bunch of black guns and orange guns with 5mm posts. Yes, you can give all these weapons to Classics Primes. The black guns have hollow posts and so can be mounted on Mini-Cons. The entire Armored Convoy, both cab and trailer, is littered with 5mm ports.

* [[Missile Launcher]] (with [[Retro]] & [[Surge]]) and [[Tanker Truck]] (with [[Pipeline]] & [[Gusher]]) — Both bases have a new mould Micromaster ramp with a double-peg on it. Unfortunately it's very hard to access, and not very effective as a shield for other toys The combiner bases also extensively use 5mm ports and pegs for all their weapons, and even their main combining pegs. This means they can be connected to each other, or to any other 5mm pegs or ports.
* [[Battlefield Headquarters]] with [[Full-Barrel]] & [[Overflow]]

'''DECEPTICONS'''
* [[Megatron (G1)/toys#ActionMaster|Megatron's]] [[Neutro-Fusion Tank]]
* [[Gutcruncher (G1)|Gutcruncher]]'s [[Stratotronic Jet]] — His missiles have 5mm post holes, rather than 5mm posts. This means you can mount his missiles on mini-con ports or other similar 5mm posts.

[[Image:Anti-aircraftbase_multiconfig.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Blackout and shout!]]
* [[Cannon Transport]] with [[Terror-Tread]] & [[Cement-Head]] — Features the same 5mm compatibility as the Autobot Combiner Transports.
* [[Anti-Aircraft Base]] with [[Blackout (G1)|Blackout]] & [[Spaceshot]] — Is one of the most versatile 5mm-compatible toys of all time. All up the base features eight 5mm ports, seven 5mm posts and a variety of different accessories. The base's main guns are designed to peg onto 5mm posts so can be used with mini-con ports. The base's radar equipment and additional weapons are all designed with 5mm posts. Even the base's ramp features a 5mm port, rather than the limited 5mm post of the Micromaster Combiner Transports. The four 5mm posts on the base proper are hollow, also allowing them to be used as mini-con ports.

==UK Generation 1==
After Generation 1 ended in the US it continued in the UK unabated. Well, a little bit abated. It wasn't as big as it was. The UK line at first consisted of redecos of Japanese toys and Action Masters that hadn't made it to America. After that they continued to produce their own toys. Okay... but what does that have to do with 5mm pegs? Well, sadly, not much. The UK lines did not make extensive use of 5mm pegs, even when they really should have (we're looking at you, Predator jets). The compatibility of these toys is incredibly limited.

===1991===
The Action Masters from this year didn't use 5mm pegs at all, meaning that there were only three toys this year with 5mm pegs.

'''AUTOBOTS'''
[[Image:Flame5mmdemo.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Ready for a Flame war!]]
*[[Flame (Motorvator)|Flame]], [[Gripper (G1)|Gripper]], [[Lightspeed (Motorvator)|Lightspeed]]. — The [[Motorvator]]s, being recycled Japanese toys, used 5mm pegs as standard for their weapons. Their weapons had two sets of pegs letting them be held as swords or guns.

===1992===
This year introduced the Turbomasters and Predators. Even though both sets of toys (who all have massive guns) would have benefitted from 5mm posts, only two toys out of the entire line have them.

'''AUTOBOTS'''
*[[Rotorstorm]]

[[Image:Stalker_variousconfigs.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Stalk 'er? I hardly knew 'er.]]
'''DECEPTICONS'''
*[[Stalker (G1)|Stalker]] — Unlike Rotorstorm his hands are not 5mm pegs. Instead the ports on his shoulders are 5mm pegs — his massive missile and his radar dish are on 5mm posts. His lack of 5mm hands is made up for by two screw holes on his wrists which are 5mm holes, allowing him to hold guns there.

===1993===
'''AUTOBOTS'''
*[[Pyro]]

'''DECEPTICONS'''
*[[Clench (G2)|Clench]]
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==Japanese Generation 1==
There's not a lot to say about Japanese Generation 1. The main thing is that there are more Micromasters. More Micromasters means more 5mm pegs.

The first few lines that the Japanese marketed independently were mostly reuses of American moulds, with only a few differences. Basically if the American version can use 5mm pegs, so can the Japanese version. In these cases there's only a handful of toys that need pointing out as independent and unique but the overall line was generally a mess of 5mm pegs everywhere.

===Headmasters===
Most of this line was just American release toys repackaged. Basically all of them were 5mm compatible. Almost all of the moulds unique to the Japanese line were also 5mm compatible.

'''CYBERTRONS'''
*[[Ricochet (Headmasters)|Stepper]] and [[Artfire (Headmasters)|Artfire]]. — Jazz and Inferno, two previously non-compatible toys, were retooled and redecoed in Headmasters and used as Targetmasters. Artfire's fists are expanded to allow him to hold his targetmaster gun [[Nightstick (Artfire)|Nightstick]]. Stepper meanwhile has Jazz's missile launcher replaced by a plug-in port to allow him to use his Targetmaster unit [[Nightstick (Ricochet)|Nebulon]] as a shoulder cannon.
*<strike>Billy</strike> <strike>Blaster</strike> [[Blaster (G1)|Twincast]] — Redeco and slight retool of G1 Blaster.

*[[Graphy]], [[Noise]], [[Dial]] and [[Saur]]
*[[Raiden]] — Like Devastator before him (well, sorta), Raiden can use 5mm weapons while his components cannot.

'''DESTRONS'''
*[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundblaster]] — Redeco and slight retool of G1 Soundwave.

===Masterforce===
Again, Masterforce is almost entirely American moulds, but this time there's more redecos. There's a few retools, and a handful of new moulds too, with 5mm compatibility.

'''CYBERTRONS'''
*[[Metalhawk]] — He's a Pretender. And what have we learned so far? That's right: Pretenders are 5mm compatible.

*[[Ginrai|Super Ginrai]] and [[Godbomber]] — Ginrai is a retool of Powermaster Optimus Prime, with brand new hands. Brand new retractable 5mm hands! (To replace his old unretractable 5mm hands!) Godbomber is designed to be compatible with Ginrai, to use his accessories and to merge with him, so he gets to be 5mm compatible too. Sweet.
*[[Grand Maximus]] — Fortress Maximus with a new deco and some new accessories. He's compatible with 5mm pegs in the same way as Fortress Maximus, and his new parts are mostly a Pretender shell with some extra weapons. Pretender shell? Well, we know what that means!

'''DESTRONS'''
*[[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] — Does not have 5mm pegs for his hands, but has limited compatibility thanks to a handful of 5mm holes and some 5mm pegs on his smaller accessories. This toy was also released in Europe in 1992.
*[[Browning]] — As well as multiple sets of fists, Browning also has 5mm post holes on his shoulders for added shoulder cannon action.

*[[Scorponok (G1)|BlackZarak]] — A retool of G1 Scorponok with a new robot mode head and some new weapons. He's 5mm compatible in the same ways as Scorponok, but with updated [[Gold Plastic Syndrome]] compatibility to boot.

===Victory===
Victory was radically different from the American toy line of the time. Most of the toys were unique to Japan, and most of them had 5mm compatibility to some extent.

'''CYBERTRONS'''
*[[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]], [[Victory Leo]] and their combined form Victory Saber
*[[Blacker]], [[Laster]], [[Braver]] and their combined form [[Road Caesar]]
*[[Landcross (Victory)|Landcross]] — While the individual components are not generally 5mm compatible, Landcross has 5mm fists. Some of his components have 5mm holes on their vehicle modes for storing merge parts.
*[[Galaxy Shuttle]] — Dude's basically a Micromaster toy, of course he's 5mm compatible.

*[[Greatshot]] — A retool and redeco of Sixshot.

'''DESTRONS'''
*[[Liokaiser]] — As with most every merge group, Liokaiser's fists are 5mm pegs. His individual components are mostly not 5mm compatible. [[Leozack]] has 5mm ports, and [[Gaihawk]] and [[Hellbat]] have 5mm posts, used in merging. [[Killbison]]'s tank mode guns are on a 5mm plug, which becomes Liokaiser's hand-held weapons. None of these ports and plugs are particularly accessible or useful. Unless you want to give Leozack gun knees, which... who wouldn't want to?

*[[Dinoking]] — A redeco of Monstructor with new Pretender shells, he's 5mm compatible in exactly the same way.
*[[Black Shadow]] and [[Blue Bacchus]] — Retools and redecos of Crossblades and Thunderwing.

===Zone===
Zone is basically the Japanese equivalent of the American Micromasters line. Most of the toys were straight repackagings of the American releases, with basically no changes. The rest were either new Micromaster bases (with 5mm weapons) or redecos of American bases. 5mm compatibility had been more or less the norm for Japanese Generation 1, and Zone would cement their place with only the individual Micromasters not being fully 5mm compatible.

'''CYBERTRONS'''
*[[Dai Atlas (Zone)|Dai Atlas]], [[Sonic Bomber]], [[Road Fire]] and their merged form [[Big Powered]]
*[[Landshaker]] and [[Sky Hyper]] — Redecos of Groundshaker and Sky Hopper's bases with new pilots and the same ole weapons.

'''DESTRONS'''
*[[Metrotitan (Zone)|Metrotitan]] — Dude, a crazy Decepticon redeco of Metroplex. Just as compatible with 5mm pegs as Metroplex ever was. But more blue.

===Return of Convoy===
[[Image:Microtrailer_versatility.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Is there nothing they can't do?!]]
Yup, Optimus Prime got a new toy this year. Yawn. What we're really interested in is two brand new concepts. First of all all the Micromaster patrols were re-released this year, and packaged with brand new Micro Trailers. Secondly we were introduced to six-member Micromaster combiner teams which merge more traditionally than the American Micromaster combiners.

The Micro Trailers were simple launchers for the Micromasters, and there were (including the three packaged with the bulks from this year) 14 in all. From a 5mm compatibility point of view these things are incredible. They're designed to combine, pegging into each other. The result is two hollow 5mm posts, and two 5mm ports on each little trailer. You can load them up with weapons, plug Mini-Cons into them or just have larger robots hold them as weapons. Just to add to it they've got ports for American Micromaster Combiners to tow them with, connectors for Micromaster ramps, and a tab to let Sky Garry carry them. Interactivity? You freakin' bet.

The six member combiners are significant because they are the first (and to date '''only''') combiner teams to use 5mm pegs to connect actual robots together. The six Micromasters in each team combine around a frame that makes up the torso, head and thighs of the robot. The shoulders of this frame use hollow 5mm pegs to connect its arms. It's significant because it means that the arm components for all the six member Micromaster combiners have large 5mm ports, allowing them to peg onto 5mm posts — like Mini-Con pegs, for example.

'''CYBERTRONS'''
*[[Grandus (ROC)|Grandus]], [[Sky Garry (ROC)|Sky Garry]], and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Star Convoy]]
*[[Micro Trailer]]s #0 to 12, and Star Convoy's Micro Trailer.
[[Image:Micromerge5mmcompatibility.jpg|right|250px|thumb|]]
*[[Sixliner]] — Sixliner was the first of the six member Micromaster combiner teams. He had 5mm compatible fists, a 5mm compatible gun (with two hollow 5mm pegs on the side) and oddly enough 5mm compatible toes. His combiner parts can all become carriages for the train modes of his individual Micromasters. His main torso section has three hollow 5mm posts on it, allowing it to mount Mini-Cons, or to be held by larger robots as a strange gun (which you can then mount Mini-Cons on). Sixliner's arms, [[Leaf]] and [[Alan]] connect to him via 5mm ports that can be used to peg them on any 5mm posts.

===Operation Combination===
The last gasp of Generation 1 in Japan. This line was a mish-mash of new moulds, redecos of old moulds and UK imports.

The most important part of the line from our point of view right now is the new six member Micromaster combiners. There was a retool of Sixliner, and 3 entirely new mould teams. The three new teams use a generic body frame which uses far more 5mm pegs than the Sixliner body. The head and feet, as well as the shoulders, now connect by 5mm posts. This new versatility meant that four members of the team, not just two, could peg onto 5mm posts. The parts of these new combiners could also merge into a jet — but if you merge them into a jet you can't use the parts as weapons for larger robots, and who wants that? No one.

'''CYBERTRONS'''
*[[Sixturbo]] — His arms and legs, [[Circuit (OC)|Circuit]], [[Neo-Wheel]], [[Discharge]] and [[Sireen]] all have 5mm ports.
*[[Sixbuilder]] — His arms and legs, [[Digger]], [[Iron Lift]], [[Mixing]] and [[Treader]] all have 5mm ports.
*[[Sixwing]] — His arms and legs, [[Falcon (OC)|Falcon]], [[Flanker]], [[Raker]] and [[Supersonic]] all have 5mm ports.

*[[Guard City]] — A redeco, barely, of Generation 1 Defensor. Compatible in exactly the same way as the original mould.
*[[Sixtrain]] — A retool of Sixliner. His arms [[Atlan]] and [[Raise]] have 5mm ports.

'''DESTRONS'''
*[[Battle Gaia]] — A redeco of Generation 1 Bruticus. Compatible in exactly the same way as the original mould.
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==Generation 2==
Come 1993 and Transformers was given a rebirth, both in the US (who hadn't had toys on the shelves since 1990) and in the rest of the world. It was called Generation 2. Generation 2 was a mixture of vintage Generation 1 Diaclone-based toys, redecos of toys released in the UK and later on a whole slew of brand new moulds created just for that line.

Generation 2 was only moderately 5mm friendly. The old moulds retained their old compatibilities, and the new moulds tended to be much smaller toys that weren't able to have large fist holes. Still, there are a handful of new and interesting toys with 5mm compatibility, and many of them would go on to be prominent toys in later lines as well.

===1993===

'''AUTOBOTS'''
*[[Optimus_Prime_(G1)/toys#Generation_2|Optimus Prime]] — This toy is a redeco and retool of Generation 1 Optimus Prime. The main difference now is the addition of a voice pack with two 5mm post holes on it and the addition of two brand-new hand-held missile launchers with 5mm posts. This added versatility has basically never been carried forwards to other re-releases of the mould.
*[[Jazz_(G1)/toys#Generation_2|Jazz]] and [[Sideswipe_(G1)#Generation_2_2|Sideswipe]] — These two (redecos of the g1 toys) are NOT 5mm compatible, but their missile launchers have a double-post, making their '''guns''' 5mm compatible.

'''DECEPTICONS'''
*[[Devastator_(G1)#Generation_2|Devastator]] — This toy was released twice in two different new decos, but it's still the same tooling as the Generation 1 toy with the same compatibilities.
*[[Ramjet_%28G1%29#Generation_2_2|Ramjet]] and [[Starscream_(G1)/toys#Generation_2|Starscream]] — Redecos of the Generation 1 toys with the same compatibilities. They also have new missile launchers (that actually launch!) and a new sound box, but neither of these really adds any new compatibility to the toys.
*[[Megatron_(G1)/toys#Generation_2|Megatron]] — This is the first new Gen2 exclusive mould created for the American toy line. It's also the first new mould with 5mm fists.

===1994===

'''AUTOBOTS'''
*[[Superion_(G1)#Generation_2|Superion]] — A redeco of the Generation 1 toy, with the same very very limited compatibility, but with the added bonus of Gold Plastic Syndrome.
*[[Silverbolt_(G1)#Generation_2_2|Silverbolt]] — A redeco of the Generation 1 toy, unlike the original toy this Silverbolt is retooled to have 5mm post holes on his wings, for a pair of new missile launchers. Silverbolt's launchers are the same basic mould as those used by the Skyraiders, but were retooled to have a double-post so that Superion could hold them. Because he doesn't have 5mm fists. Because Superion is a poopy-head.

*[[Optimus_Prime_(G1)/toys#Generation_2|Hero Optimus Prime]]
*[[Electro#Generation_2_2|Electro]] and [[Volt#Generation_2_2|Volt]].

'''DECEPTICONS'''
*[[Bruticus_(G1)#Generation_2|Bruticus]] and the [[Combaticon_(G1)|Combaticons]] — A slightly retooled and extensively redecoed version of the original toy with the same basic compatibilities. [[Onslaught_(G1)#Generation_2_2|Onslaught]] also has a new missile launcher which is 5mm compatible.

*[[Megatron_(G1)/toys#Generation_2|Hero Megatron]]
*[[Sizzle_(G2)#Generation_2_2|Sizzle]] and [[Jolt_(G2)#Generation_2_2|Jolt]]

===1995===
The last year of Generation 2 was getting more and more experimental, with toys with all kinds of different gimmicks, all kinds of brand new features. Unfortunately this year also saw a severe downsizing of the toys — smaller toys became the standard. That left room for only one toy this year with 5mm fists and accessories.

'''AUTOBOTS'''
*[[Optimus_Prime_(G1)/toys#Generation_2|Laser Optimus Prime]] — Probably because of a decided downturn in the SIZE of individual toys in 1995, Laser Optimus Prime is the '''only''' toy this year with 5mm pegs. His sword, laser cannon, and missile launcher have 5mm handles.

==Beast Wars==
[[Image:Optimusprimal5mmposts.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Share and share alike.]]
After Generation 2, 5mm posts took a pasting. Suddenly they just weren't standard any more. If Generation 2 was experimental in its last days, then Beast Wars was even more experimental. There were basically no singular standards for this line. Characters were completely self-contained play patterns, based around their animal modes. As the line evolved general gimmicks, again based on the aesthetics of the toy rather than their play pattern, began to dominate. The only place that 5mm post holes were generally universal were the larger scale Ultra toys who mostly featured 5mm hands.

Tolerances are a big issue with Beast Wars toys with 5mm posts, the following list is as comprehensive as it can be, but you might find you struggle to use the 5mm compatibility on some of your toys. In the testing phase different samples ranged from impossibly tight, to perfect, to really loose.

===1996===
'''MAXIMALS'''
*[[Dinobot_(BW)#Toys|Dinobot]] — Dinobots's weapons and accessories and hands are all 5mm posts. This is great, seeing as this mould was released again, and again, and again. His famous [[Cyber-slash tail weapon|rotating blade]] weapon has a 5mm post hole in it that allows it to mount on a 5mm post on his dinosaur mode back. This is especially useful for mounting the tail weapon on his back in robot mode.
*[[Polar Claw]]
*[[Optimus_Primal/toys#Beast_Wars|Ultra Optimus Primal]]
*[[Wolfang (Maximal)|Wolfang]] Has 5mm screw holes in his robot back, and a non-screw 5mm hole in his head — these are almost useless. However, his waist kibble has minicon-compatible pegs, as does the front of his shield.

===1997===
'''MAXIMALS'''
*[[Grimlock_(G1)/toys#Beast_Wars|Grimlock]] — A redeco of the Beast Wars Dinobot mould with the same compatibility.
*[[Ironhide_(G1)/toys#Beast_Wars|Ironhide]] and [[Magnaboss#Beast_Wars|Magnaboss]] — Silverbolt and Prowl are not 5mm compatible, but Ironhide, Magnaboss' sword, and Magnaboss are. The small hollow pegs on Ironhide's elephant shell halves are NOT 5mm, but the size of the inner hole is such that they DO grip minincons.
*[[B'Boom]]

'''PREDACONS'''
*Ramhorn and Tripredacus — Ramhorn has 5mm hands, giving Tripredacus one 5mm hand too. The other members of the team are not 5mm compatible.
*[[Inferno_(BW)#Toys|Inferno]]

===1998===
'''MAXIMALS'''
*[[Cheetor_(BW)/toys#Beast_Wars|Transmetal Cheetor]] — His fists are an unconventional shape, but hold 5mm weapons just fine.
*[[Optimus_Primal/toys#Beast_Wars|Transmetal Optimus Primal]]
*[[Optimus_Primal/toys#Beast_Wars|Optimal Optimus]] — While he doesn't have 5mm peg holes for his fists, he does have 5mm pegs on his wrists, (on angles, so their use is limited) and he DOES have hollow 5mm pegs (perfect for Mini-Cons) on his rifle! On his shoulders are a couple of other 5mm pegs too.

*[[Torca]]

'''PREDACONS'''
*[[Megatron_(BW)/toys#Beast_Wars|Transmetal Megatron]]
*[[Rampage_(BW)#Beast_Wars|Transmetal Rampage]]
*[[Antagony#Beast_Wars|Botcon Antagony]]

===1999===

'''MAXIMALS'''
*[[Optimus Minor]] — On his own, Optimus Minor is not 5mm compatible. However, his tail weapon uses two different 5mm pegs — one of which is hollow, perfect for minicons! The allows him to hold a minicon in robot mode.
*[[Tigerhawk#Beast_Wars|Tigerhawk]]

'''PREDACONS'''
*[[Megatron_(BW)/toys#Beast_Wars|Transmetal II Megatron]]

===Beast Wars II===
Beast Wars II was a Japanese only line capitalising on the success of Beast Wars. It's mostly a redeco line, with a handful of brand new toys or moulds. There's a bunch of old toys in this line with 5mm compatibility, and a few retools and redecos. There's only one new mould. Lio Convoy looks like he should have them, but his fists are actually a bit bigger than the 5mm standard.

'''CYBERTRONS'''
Santon and Magnaboss — Redecos of Beast Wars Ironhide and Magnaboss.

'''DESTRONS'''
*Autolauncher
*Megastorm
*Gigastorm
*Thrustor
*God Neptune — A Redeco of the Seacons minus Nautilator, with most of the same 5mm compatibilities as the original group. They were released in a gift set, and also lacked the individual gun stands that the original Seacons had. Man... sucky.
*Galvatron

===Beast Wars Neo===
'''CYBERTRONS'''
*Big Convoy — Includes a 5mm peg-compatible Matrix.
*Longrack

'''DESTRONS'''
*Hardhead
*Elephorca

==Beast Machines==
Beast Machines saw the almost complete abandonment of the 5mm peg for its toys. The introduction of uniquely moulded hands and toys with few if any accessories meant that 5mm peg holes were no longer needed. In fact, in all of Beast Machines, there is only one toy with deliberate 5mm peg holes for hands. There's others with 5mm screw holes or 5mm peg holes that can be used to make them compatible with older weapons, but for the most part, Beast Machines emphasised completely self-contained toys.

On the flip side, Beast Machines was one of the first Transformers lines to introduce vehicles and separately sold weapon-accessories for other toys, in the form of the Beast Riders and Deployer assortments. These toys, while emphasising interactivity with other toys, did so without the use of pegging.

==2000==
'''VEHICONS'''
*[[Megatron_(BW)/toys#Beast_Machines|Megatron]] — The only toy in the entire line that's deliberately 5mm compatible, the Mega-sized Megatron toy has 5mm fists in robot mode. Wow, Beast Machines, way to drop the ball!

==Robots in Disguise==
Unlike the much more focused and internally designed Beast Machines, Robots in Disguise was an absolute hodge-podge of a line. It used a combination of new moulds, vintage moulds, and contemporary redecos that saw toys from all over the place incorporated into the line. This was both good and bad for 5mm peg enthusiasts—mostly bad, since the majority of the redecos came from G2 Gobots or Beast Wars and Beast Machines toys.

The handful of brand new toys in the line didn't really emphasise interactivity or compatibility of accessories. Instead they emphasised interactivity through figure combination. Still, there's a handful of stuff there worthy of inclusion here.

===2001===
'''AUTOBOTS'''
*[[Wedge]], [[Heavy Load (RID)|Heavy Load]], [[Hightower (RID)|Hightower]], [[Grimlock (RID)|Grimlock]] and Landfill — Grimlock is the only member of the team lacking 5mm fists, but fortunately he makes up for it in combined form where he forms a part with 5mm compatible hands (well, claws) for Landfill. In fact all of Landfill's configurations are 5mm compatible. Woo!

*[[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Ultra Magnus (RID)|Ultra Magnus]] — Both use 5mm posts extensively. Only the smaller, non-super-mode Prime actually has 5mm FISTS. Prime's super mode lacks 5mm fists, or fists at all. Omega Prime's and Ultra Magnus's hands do have 5mm holes on the palms, and Magnus's thumbs have 5mm posts. Prime is also covered in a bunch of hollow 5mm posts that can be used as mini-con ports, and both have 5mm posts and holes out the wazoo.

'''DECEPTICONS/PREDACONS'''
*[[Ruination (RID)|Ruination]] — Ruination is a redeco and slight retool of the Generation 1 Combaticons. Initially, in Robots in Disguise, all five components were released separately, though later on they were released only as gift sets. The main difference to the moulds is that the Combaticons' weapons were retooled so they could create two super weapons for Ruination. These super weapons are 5mm compatible.
*[[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]] and [[Megatron (RID)|Galvatron]]

===2002===
'''DECEPTICONS/PREDACONS'''
*[[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]] — A redeco of Beast Wars Transmetal 2 Megatron, has 5mm fists just the same.
*[[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]] — A redeco of Generation 2 Laser Optimus Prime with all his compatibilities.

===2003===
'''AUTOBOTS'''
*[[Landfill (RID)|Landfill]] — Same compatibilities as ever, but now in yellow! Plus, it's a gift set!

'''DECEPTICONS'''
*[[Scourge (RID)|Destructicon Scourge]] — A redeco of Generation 2 Combat Optimus Prime.
*[[Bludgeon (RID)|Destructicon Bludgeon]] — A redeco of Generation 2 Combat Megatron.
*[[Ruination (RID)|Ruination]] — Same as before, but now more urban! And in a gift set!

==Armada==
For 5mm peg addicts, the Unicron Trilogy was a godsend. It was the first Transformers toyline not only to feature 5mm pegs as standard on nearly every single toy, but also to advertise this interactivity. It's all down to one thing: Mini-Cons. Mini-Cons and their contribution are covered a bit earlier in this article, but it's important here to mention their... well...importance.

Mini-Cons each came with a 5mm peg hole, with a smaller (1mm?) peg imbedded inside it. Mini-Cons could then plug onto hollow (but NOT solid) 5mm pegs, usually referred to as Mini-Con hardpoints. Some of these hardpoints included small triggers which were pushed down by the smaller peg inside the Mini-Con's 5mm post hole. This activated gimmicks on the larger toys, and is why the Mini-Con don't simply have 5mm post holes.

The inclusion of Mini-Cons as a set of figures compatible with all larger Armada figures saw an overnight change. Suddenly 5mm pegs were the standard again and all but the roleplay toys in the Armada line have 5mm pegs. However, carrying on from Beast Machines and Beast Wars, many Armada toys had unique or oddly moulded hands, and 5mm fists would not make their complete comeback until Energon.

===2003===
'''MINI-CONS'''

The Mini-Cons are all 5mm-compatible in the same way: All Mini-Cons can peg onto '''any''' hollow 5mm pegs. Specific toys that can use them which aren't part of the Unicron trilogy are discussed all through this article, including RiD Optimus Prime, the Micromaster Anti-Aircraft Base, and Beast Wars K-9. Listed below are specific Mini-Cons with unique 5mm compatibilities not covered by straightforward Powerlinking.

*[[Over-Run (Armada)|Over-Run]] and [[Run-Over]] — Transform into guns with 5mm-compatible handles.
*[[Rollout (Armada)|Rollout]] — He has a 5mm-compatible trailer hitch that can be used as a Mini-Con port, allowing other Mini-Cons to peg onto him!
*[[Leader-1 (Armada)|Leader-1]] and [[Clench (Armada)|Clench]] — Both have 5mm-thick arms, allowing them to become 5mm-compatible guns.

*[[Sonar (Armada)|Sonar]] and the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber]] — The Air Defence Team merges to become the Star Saber sword. The sword can be held by any toys with 5mm fists or pegged onto Mini-Con compatible posts. Of the three members of the team, only Sonar has an extra feature. He has a 5mm post accessible mostly in shuttle mode, allowing him to be held in other figures' hands (as well as allowing him to be the base of the Star Saber sword).
*[[Maverick]] and the [[Vorpal Saber|Dark Saber]]

*[[Prowl (Armada)|Prowl]] — Prowl transforms into a 5mm-compatible gun.

*[[Dirt Boss (Armada)|Dirt Boss]] and the [[Skyboom (Armada)|Skyboom Shield]] — The Race Mini-Con Team merge into an enormous shield designed for use with larger toys with 5mm-compatible fists. Dirt Boss has a 5mm-compatible head because of this. Yeah, you heard right, his head is a 5mm post.

*[[Payload (Armada)|Payload]], [[Sky Blast]] and the [[Requiem Blaster]] — The Space Team merge into the Requiem Blaster, a super-gun meant for use by toys with 5mm-compatible fists. Payload has the 5mm peg that becomes the handle for the blaster, so he can be hand-held. Sky Blast also has a 5mm peg, this one hollow so that you can mount other Mini-cons on top of the Requiem Blaster and power it up even MORE. Yeah. Insane, right? It also means Sky Blast can be hand-held or merge with Energon weapons, etc.

* [[Grindor (Armada)|Grindor]] — In skateboard mode, he has a Mini-Con compatible peg on top of him, allowing other Mini-cons to be plugged into him.

'''AUTOBOTS'''
*[[Blurr (Armada)|Blurr]], [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Smokescreen]] and [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Hoist]] — None of these three moulds sport 5mm hands. Smokescreen has a 5mm screw hole on his arms just below his fists which can be used as a kind of 5mm fist, but neither Blurr nor Hoist have 5mm fists at all.
*[[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]], [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Powerlinx Hot Shot]], and [[Side Swipe (Armada)|Side Swipe]] — All feature standard 5mm fists. Side Swipe even has a 5mm-compatible gun. In Japan, Hot Shot was given an LED in one hand to allow him to light up 5mm-compatible translucent weapons.

*[[Airazor (Armada)|Airazor]], [[Cheetor (Armada)|Cheetor]], and [[Rhinox (Armada)|Rhinox]] — Three redecos of Beast Wars toys, they were retooled so they would have Mini-Con hardpoints. They were not retooled to have 5mm compatible fists, however, so neither Rhinox nor Air Razor can use 5mm-compatible weapons. Cheetor still can, though.

*[[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]] and [[Red Alert (Armada)|Powerlinx Red Alert]] — Red Alert is 5mm compatible out the wazoo. He has Mini-Con pegs all over, plus a 5mm fist, a 5mm port on his shoulder for shoulder cannons, a 5mm compatible rifle... oh yeah, and interchangeable tool hands which plug in using a 5mm peg.
*[[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]] — He doesn't have 5mm-compatible hands. But he does have big, stompy feet, so we forgive him.
*[[Overload (Armada)|Overload]], [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] and [[Jetfire (Armada)|Powerlinx Jetfire]] — Both moulds have 5mm fists, though Overload's are very limited due to his enormously high wrists. Overload also has a 5mm-compatible port as his trailer hitch so he can be towed by Optimus Prime or his Mini-Con.

*[[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Supercon Optimus Prime]], [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Super Optimus Prime]] and [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Powerlinx Optimus Prime]] — Both the large and small Optimus Prime toys have 5mm fists. Even in his Super Mode, Prime has 5mm fists. The hitch used to pull Prime's trailer is a 5mm post, shared by both the large and small versions of the toys. This means that the small Prime can pull the larger toy's trailer, or either of them can pull Armada Overload. You can also use this hitch as a mount for 5mm compatible weapons.

'''DECEPTICONS'''
*[[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]], [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Powerlinx Cyclonus]], [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]], [[Demolishor (Armada)|Powerlinx Demolishor]], [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]] and [[Thrust (Armada)|Powerlinx Thrust]] — Do not have 5mm compatible fists. They do have plenty of Mini-Con ports, though.

*[[Wheeljack (Armada)|Wheeljack]] — The only Supercon Decepticon with 5mm-compatible fists. He also has missiles that he uses as clubs (well, in the fiction he uses them as guns...sorta...), and they're 5mm compatible too.

*[[Nemesis Prime (Armada)|Nemesis Prime]] — A redeco of Supercon Optimus Prime. He has all the same compatibilities, including being able to pull the Super Prime's trailer.

*[[Terrorsaur (Armada)|Terrorsaur]] — A redeco and retool of Beast Wars Transmetal Terrorsaur. The retooling gives him Mini-Con pegs, but not 5mm-compatible fists.
*[[Predacon (Armada)|Predacon]] — A redeco and retool of Beast Wars TM Megatron. Like the original version of the mould, he has 5mm fists and a 5mm tail weapon, but now he also sports four brand new Mini-Con pegs.

*[[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], [[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]] and [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]] — All have 5mm hands in addition to their Mini-Con pegs.

*[[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]] — Doesn't have 5mm fists, even if he is loaded with an unbelievable number of Mini-Con ports.

*[[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] and [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]] — They traded useless knees for unreasonable numbers of Mini-Con hardpoints. Their insane number of Mini-Con pegs makes them one of the most 5mm compatible moulds in history. The toy is perfect for overloading with weapons in either robot or tank mode, and in robot mode, he even gets a 5mm-compatible fist (only the one, because the other hand is concealing a knife).

==Energon==
[[Image:Energonweapon_demo_001.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Now his shot's 6 times as hot!]]
With ''Transformers Energon'', the 5mm golden age continued. Mini-Cons were dropped in favour of a return to the basic price point, but Energon figures still retained their 5mm compatibility and their Mini-Con hardpoints. The line introduced new translucent weapons called energon weapons. The energon weapons were versatile, often multi-part weapons which frequently had both traditional 5mm posts and ports and Mini-Con-style 5mm posts and ports. They could be mounted on Mini-Con pegs, used to activate Mini-Con gimmicks on Armada toys, and merged together to create insanely over-the-top super weapons.

There were two distinct types of energon weapons. There were the multi-part accessories packed with the Omnicons, which often had 3 or 4 distinct components. Strictly speaking these (and a few weapons of larger toys) were the weapons advertised officially as [[Energon weapon]]s. There were also the more static and traditional rifles and missile launchers packed with the larger ''Energon'' toys, even these weapons usually still had multiple posts and ports, including Mini-Con posts and ports, allowing them to be merged with other Energon weapons. As the series progressed, a third type of energon weapon was added: the multi-configuration weapons included with the Energon quintro-combiners, which were designed to be feet and hands for the large ''Energon'' combiner robots, as well as weapons for the component robots.

''Energon'' was really the first Transformers toy line to emphasise and advertise swapping and trading weapons as a pattern of play, despite the fact that Transformers toy lines had been capable of this play pattern since nearly the beginning. Over in Japan, this was emphasised even more with energon weapons from Omnibots given away, sold as separate units, or included as bonuses with redecos.

===2004===
'''MINI-CONS'''

Not many Mini-Cons were produced during ''Energon''. There was only one entirely new team and a handful of redecos. They are all 5mm-compatible, as is standard for Mini-Cons. Those Mini-Cons of special interest are listed below.

*[[Skyboom (Energon)|Skyboom]] and the [[Energon Saber]] — Retooled from Armada's Star Saber, they have the same basic compatibilities.
*[[Knock Out (Energon)|Knock Out]] — A redeco of Armada Rollout with all the same compatibilities.
*[[Payload (Armada)|Payload]], [[Sky Blast]] and the [[Requiem Blaster]] — A redeco of the Requiem Blaster from Armada, with the same basic compatibilities.

'''AUTOBOTS'''

The listing bellow describes, for the most part, the individual robots. Keep in mind that each toy also came with a gun, usually a transluscent energon weapon with multiple ports and pegs, and even Mini-con compatibility. Even toys without Mini-con plugs of their own often had them on their guns.

* The Omnicons, [[Offshoot (Energon)|Offshoot]], [[Signal Flare (Energon)|Signal Flare]], [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]], [[Strongarm (Energon)|Strongarm]], and his redeco [[Strongarm (Energon)|Energon Strongarm]] — The Omnicons were Basic-sized toys, the first toys featured at this price point to have 5mm fists. Each came with an energon weapon, as described above, made up of several components, and an energon star meant to fit over spark crystal of ''Energon'' toys.

*[[Arcee (Energon)|Arcee]] — Arcee is the only Omnicon without 5mm fists. She has 5mm post holes in her arms meant to stand in for 5mm fists, but her actual hands are eenie-weenie.

*[[Sky Shadow (Energon)|Sky Shadow]], [[Treadshot (Energon)|Treadshot]], [[Terradive (Energon)|Terradive]] and [[Windrazor (Energon)|Windrazor]] — The limb components of Superion Maximus. They had standard 5mm compatibility and unique transformable energon weapons that became "hands" and "feet" for Superion Maximus.

*[[Downshift (Energon)|Downshift]] — Downshift features a spoiler that becomes a unique platform for holding both his guns or any other energon weapons.
*[[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]], [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Energon Hot Shot]] and [[Prowl (Energon)|Prowl]]
*[[Inferno (Energon)|Inferno]], [[Roadblock (Energon)|Roadblock]] and [[Rodimus (Energon)|Rodimus]] — In addition to standard ''Energon'' compatibility, these toys retain the Mini-Con ports from ''Transformers: Armada''. Rodimus has one, Inferno and Roadblock each have two.
*[[Tow-Line (Energon)|Tow-Line]] — Unlike the other Combat-Class ''Energon'' toys, Tow-Line was actually made up of two components which combine to form his vehicle mode, a robot and a battle platform. The robot is fairly standard for Energon toys, with many post holes for 5mm weapons of all sorts, some of them in rather unusual places. The battle platform in particular, though, is basically designed as a showcase for Energon weapons, making a perfect platform for building insane or over-the-top energon weapon combinations.

*[[Beachcomber (Energon)|Beachcomber]] and [[Cliffjumper (Energon)|Cliffjumper]] — This mould has a Mini-con port on its shoulder pad. Unlike most other ''Energon'' Autobots their weapons, while 5mm compatible, are not designed after the ''Energon'' weapon style. They don't have any extra posts or ports, and aren't made of translucent plastics. They're just simple hand-held guns.
*[[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]] and [[Ironhide (Energon)|Energon Ironhide]] — One of a handful of ''Energon'' moulds without its own hand-held rifle. Has a Mini-Con port on his right forearm.
*[[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] and [[Overcast (Energon)|Overcast]] — The Mini-Con ports on their shuttle mode become their toes in robot mode so... uhhh... good luck with that. The rifle that comes with this mould, despite being translucent is effective not an Energon weapon. It has two gun posts, but no other compatibility. It may have been intended to, though. On top of the rifle is a piece of moulding that looks exactly like a Mini-Con post, including their unique base... but it's teeny tiny and undersized.

*[[Treadbolt]] — A redeco of ''Armada'' Scavenger with all his compatibilities.
*[[Wing Saber]] — He has no hand-held rifle, but he does have a Mini-Con port on his left forearm.

*[[Bulkhead (Energon)|Bulkhead]] and [[Quickstrike (Energon)|Quickstrike]], [[Landmine (Energon)|Landmine]] and [[Landquake (Energon)|Landquake]] — Both these moulds are littered with 5mm ports and pegs. The Bulkhead mould also has a Mini-Con peg on his helicopter tail, while the Landmine mould has two Mini-Con ports on his large cannon for his Brute mode.

*[[Ultra Magnus (Energon)|Ultra Magnus]] — A redeco of ''Armada'' Overload.

*[[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]] — Prime has 4 Mini-Con pegs in vehicle mode: 2 on his trailer, and 2 on his cab. In robot mode his trailer becomes a base and is still Mini-Con compatible, but the Mini-Con ports are hidden in Prime's robot mode, sadly. Prime's gun is just a standard rifle, not an energon weapon.
*[[Omega Sentinel (Energon)|Omega Sentinel]] and [[Omega Supreme (Energon)|Omega Supreme]] — This mould has 4 Mini-Con ports on his shoulders, front and back, and a handful of 5mm posts. Still, considering its size it's not enormously versatile at using 5mm compatible weapons.

'''DECEPTICONS'''
*[[Battle Ravage]], [[Command Ravage]], [[Cruellock]], [[Doom-Lock]] and [[Insecticon (Energon)|Insecticon]] — All the Energon Terrorcons have 5mm fists as standard. In addition to his Energon weapon Ravage also has a tail mace.
*[[Divebomb (Energon)|Divebomb]] — Divebomb's wing-mounted weapons come in two variants. The first variant has only one 5mm post on the base of the two-part weapon. The second variant was retooled to have two posts, one at either end of his weapon.

*[[Bonecrusher (Energon)|Bonecrusher]], [[Duststorm]], [[Sledge (Energon)|Sledge]], and [[Wideload (Energon)|Wideload]] — The limbs of Constructicon Maximus. Each of them has 5mm fists as standard. The Duststorm/Wideload mould also has a Mini-Con peg on its crane arm.
*[[Steamhammer (Energon)|Steamhammer]] — Steamhammer loves Mini-Cons. In both robot and vehicle modes he has 5 Mini-Con posts. That's a lot, even for an Armada toy, allowing him to hold a partner Mini-Con, an entire Mini-Con team and have one left over for an Energon weapon. Too bad he doesn't have a Mini-Con partner. (Oh yeah, he's got a bunch of 5mm post holes too.)
*[[Constructicon Maximus]] — He retains six Mini-Con pegs, four from Steamhammer and two from Dust Storm and Wideload, though Steamhammer's aren't particularly accessible. He doesn't have 5mm peg hole hands.

*[[Blackout (combiner)|Blackout]], [[Stormcloud (Energon)|Stormcloud]] — This mould has two 5mm posts on each arm in robot mode.
*[[Blight (Energon)|Blight]], [[Kickback (Energon)|Kickback]] — The tank mould technically has three Mini-con ports on his weapon, though only one is accessible in vehicle mode, and in robot mode one of them has to form the handle for the gun. In pratical terms you're probably only going to get one Mini-con on there.
*[[Barricade (Energon)|Barricade]] — Barricade likes Mini-cons too, but not as much as Steamhammer. He's got three Mini-con posts in robot mode and two in vehicle mode.
*[[Bruticus Maximus (Energon)|Bruticus Maximus]] — Thanks to Barricade he has two Mini-con ports on his thighs. He doesn't have 5mm post holes for hands, but he does have Mini-con ports on his thumbs when using the tank as an arm, or on his heels if using the tank as a leg.

*[[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]] — In addition to his 5mm fists he has four Mini-con posts, though generally speaking only two are accessible in either mode. Because the posts are on a hinged piece it is possible to expose and use all four at once. His missiles can also fit into his hands, but aren't particularly effective because he holds them at about the mid-point on the missile.
*[[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] and [[Starscream (Armada)|Energon Starscream]] — Based conceptually on the G2 Smokescreen mould, unlike that mould Starscream is highly 5mm compatible. He has a crazy Energon weapon, with multiple configurations and mini-con ports, so the gun section of the weapon can be used a Mini-con. He has Mini-con pegs on his wings that are accessible in both modes. Oh yeah, and the heads of his missiles are 5mm, so he can use them as swords if he gets tired of his giant Energon sword.
*[[Rapid Run (Energon)|Rapid Run]] — A redeco of Armada Sideways.
*[[Sharkticon (Energon)|Sharkticon]], [[Slugslinger (Energon)|Slugslinger]], [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Snow Cat]] — In addition to 5mm fists, they all have Mini-con ports on the kibble on their forearms. Snow Cat only has a port on his left arm.

*[[Dreadwing (Energon)|Dreadwing]] and [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Mirage]] — This mould loves 5mm pegs. Including fists each arm has three 5mm peg holes, as well as a Mini-con port. The toy's missiles are also 5mm wide, letting him hold them as swords. Oh yeah, and he has 5mm posts on the insides of his knees.
*[[Shockblast (Energon)|Shockblast]] and [[Six Shot]] — Doesn't have traditional hands, but has plenty of 5mm post holes.

*[[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]] — Doesn't have traditional hands, but has plenty of 5mm post holes. Has some very inaccessible Mini-con pegs on the missile launchers on his claws.
*[[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]] — An awesome redeco of Armada Tidal Wave.

*[[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]] and [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] — This same basic design was released twice at two different size scales. They're all 5mm compatible. The larger version has 6 Mini-con ports in jet mode, and two in robot mode. His tank accessory also has

*[[Alpha Quintesson]] — While he doesn't transform, Alpha Quintesson is positively brimming with 5mm posts. He has a 5mm post missile launcher too.

[[Category:Toys]][[Category:Gimmicks]]

The Fish Test

2010-04-13T13:49:52Z

152.15.24.58: /* Trivia */ Vertebrae are little pieces of spine.

{{episode
|series=rid
|ep=19
|title="The Fish Test"
|japanese=秘密作戦! ゲルシャーク
|romaji=Himitsu Sakusen! Gelshark
|translation=Secret Strategy! Gelshark
|image=The Fish Test Title Card.jpg
|caption=Next episode: The Blue Fish Test
|production code=
|production company=[[TV Tokyo]], NAS, Studio Gallop
|written by=[[Yukiyoshi Ōhashi]] (Japanese) [[Marc Handler]] (English)
|director=[[Yoshiaki Tsutsui]]
|animation studio=Studio Gallop
|airdate=[[August 9|9 August]] 2000 (Japanese) [[September 27]], 2001 (English)
|continuity=
}}

'''Sky-Byte is jealous!''' 
'''Will he prove himself a shark''' 
'''Or a jellyfish?'''

==Synopsis==
Deep within the [[Megastar|Predacon base]], a preoccupied [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] is busying himself on the computer. When quizzed by [[Slapper (RID)|Slapper]], he explains that he's taking an online "fish personality test" to help him "identify his inner fish"; he is less than exhilarated, therefore, when the quiz identifies him as a jellyfish. Sky-Byte's voyage of self-discovery is soon interrupted by a summons from [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]]. The Predacon shark is initially enthusiastic at the prospect of a chance to prove his worth, but is soon deflated when he realises that his brief is merely to lend "assistance" to [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]] on his latest plan by simply remaining at the base and out of the way. Furious, Sky-Byte has [[Dark Scream]] find out the details of Scourge's scheme to siphon energy from Earth's power plants, and begins to devise a way for his Predacons to sabotage it.

[[Image:FishTestCostumes.jpg|right|200px|thumb|I cannot work in these conditions... That's it! I'm going to my trailer.]]
Scourge and the Decepticons, therefore, are met at the central power base by a full-scale ambush by the "Autobots"—in fact, just Sky-Byte and the Predacon trio disguised rather unconvincingly as [[Rail Racer (RID)|Rail Racer]] and the [[Autobot Brothers]]. The Decepticons takes the bait, however, and engage the "Autobots" at full strength.

Back at the base of the real Autobots, [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]] is using the main computer to take the fish test, much to [[T-AI]]'s chagrin. He's interrupted, however, by the alert triggered by the skirmish on the power plant. In response, [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] dispatches Side Burn, [[Prowl (RID)|Prowl]] and [[X-Brawn]] to intervene. This pleases Sky-Byte, whose plan was for the Autobots to arrive and foil the power plant attack, thus discrediting and possibly destroying Scourge and the Decepticons; things go awry, however, when he and the Predacons are caught in the crossfire, making it blatantly obvious that it was his intervention that scuppered Scourge's plan. Oops.

Back at Predacon base, Sky-Byte is unable to talk his way out of responsibility for botching the operation, and is royally chewed out by Megatron for his interference and whining. However, a fresh chance to humiliate Scourge soon presents itself when Dark Scream reports the Decepticon's latest planned offensive, this time against the [[Bayshore power plant]]. Opting for a sneakier approach this time, Sky-Byte decides to personally warn the Autobots of Scourge's ploy.

[[Image:FishTestSkybyteTrick.gif|left|200px|thumb|Let's give him a big hand, folks!]]
Of course, this proves harder than Sky-Byte had thought; attempts to confer with a red-sportscar-chasing Side Burn are met by deaf ears and violent physical retribution, so he and the Predacons instead track down and accost X-Brawn, much to his driver [[Kelly (RID)|Kelly]]'s displeasure. X-Brawn is supremely sceptical of Sky-Byte's intentions, as are Side Burn and Prowl when they arrive on the scene, but having persuaded the desperate shark to perform humiliating tricks and dances to prove his good faith, they grudgingly agree to check out his tip.

At the Bayshore power plant, the Autobot brothers rendezvous with [[Koji Onishi|Koji]] and relax in preparation for an attack they don't believe is really coming. Sky-Byte, too, is smugly basking in his own sense of self-satisfaction until he gets a message from Dark Scream that the Decepticons have arrived at the power plant...the [[Crestline power plant|''Crestline'' power plant]], rather than the one he sent the Autobots to. The Autobots soon get wind of this, and assume that Sky-Byte has double-crossed ''them''. Fortunately, [[Team Bullet Train]] are able to intervene at Crestline, using their combined Rail Racer form to see off the Decepticon attack and leaving Sky-Byte's betrayal the only point of business yet to be dealt with.

Sky-Byte, meanwhile, is perched on a cliffside, understandably feeling pretty bad about himself and the way things have panned out. Unbowed, he and his Predacons decide to try and redeem themselves by attacking the Rocky Point power plant, in one more attempt to outdo Scourge. Sky-Byte's typical luck holds firm, however, when he realises that Megatron and the Decepticons are already there on a covert mission, which his arrival has just ruined...''again''. As Megatron subjects Sky-Byte to yet another belittling tirade, the Autobot Brothers arrive on the scene to heap even ''more'' retribution on the wretched shark. Megatron and the Decepticons engage the enemy, but are quickly forced into retreat by the arrival of Optimus, leaving only Sky-Byte behind for one more round of ritual humiliation at the hands of the Autobots before he is ''finally'' forced to call it quits and run for it.

[[Image:FishTestSkybyteTest.jpg|right|200px|thumb|After a long, painful day, Sky-Byte consoles himself with hentai.]]
Back at Predacon HQ, Megatron chastises Sky-Byte, not unreasonably, for "bringing dishonour" upon all Predacons, and sentences him to energon smelter cleanup duty. Taking one more look at his fish test, he decides to belatedly consult his daily "action advice" chart, and discovers that his horoscope had specifically warned against attempted betrayal, and could have saved him from his day's pain and humiliation. In frustration, he attacks the computer console with his claw...which causes him to be electrocuted.

Being Sky-Byte absolutely '''[[Waspinator (BW)|sucks]]'''.
{{--}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]] (10)
*[[T-AI]] (11)
*[[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] (12)
*[[Prowl (RID)|Prowl]] (13)
*[[X-Brawn]] (14)
*[[Midnight Express (RID)|Midnight Express]] (17)
*[[Railspike (RID)|Railspike]] (18)
*[[Rapid Run (RID)|Rapid Run]] (19)
*[[Rail Racer (RID)|Rail Racer]] (20)

|h2=[[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]]s
|c2=
*[[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] (1)
*[[Slapper (RID)|Slapper]] (2)
*[[Gas Skunk]] (3)
*[[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]] (4)
*[[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]] (5)
*[[Dark Scream]] (6)
*[[Mega-Octane]] (7)
*[[Armorhide (RID)|Armorhide]] (8)
*[[Rollbar (RID)|Rollbar]] (9)

|c3=
*[[Kelly (RID)|Kelly]] (15)
*[[Koji Onishi]] (16)
}}

==Quotes==
'''Slapper''': ''[disguised as Side Burn]'' Take that, you evil Decepticons! We're the good guys! 
'''Gas Skunk''': ''[disguised as Prowl]'' Yeah. I'm a police Autobot. You're under arrest for bad behavior. 
'''Dark Scream''': ''[disguised as X-Brawn]'' Yeah, we're gonna put you cowpokes in the corral, or some other junk. 
'''Gas Skunk''': Hey, where's Sky-Byte? He's supposed to be in on this. 
''[Sky-Byte emerges, disguised very poorly as Rail Racer]'' 
'''Sky-Byte''': ''Heeere I aaam!'' Rail Racer, fighter for justice! 
'''Slapper''': Hellooo? Rail Racer isn't quite that flamboyant, you know! You're never gonna make it as an actor! 
'''Gas Skunk''': Well, he could always work in cartoons.
:—The '''Predacons''' ride roughshod over plausibility, the fourth wall, and the entire "robots in disguise" concept in one fell swoop.

"Rail Racer isn't that flammable, either."
:—'''Slapper''' watches Sky-Byte's costume burn.

"It's not fair! Me, a whiner! Why, I never whine!"
:—'''Sky-Byte''', whining.

"Okay, I'm closing my eyes and thinking there's something out there other than big ugly animal monsters. There, that's better. When I open my eyes, I'll be back to normal reality."
:—'''Kelly''' reacquaints herself with her good friend, denial.

"Has everyone but me gone totally mental?"
:—'''Side Burn''' has a moment of clarity.

'''Slapper''': Even if we lose, it was worth it to let Sky-Byte bark like a seal. 
'''Gas Skunk''': You need a life.
:—'''Gas Skunk''' ''also'' has a moment of clarity...

"Alas, so the predictions have proven true. I have always thought of myself as one who strikes fear into the hearts of many, a shark with an iron will, but it turns out that I'm a jellyfish. The online personality test was right. I don't deserve to have fins.
:—...as does '''Sky-Byte'''.

'''Side Burn''': ''Jellyfish!'' 
'''Sky-Byte''': I wish everyone would stop calling me that! I'm not an invertebrate—I have cartilage!
:—See, parents, it's educational too!

"Today's action advice: Don't betray anyone and don't get tricky. You will never pull it off, jellyfish are too icky. If you try it, you'll end up barking like a seal and groveling at people's feet."
:—In Transformerland, even horoscopes are scarily advanced, as '''Sky-Byte''' fails to realise to his great, great cost.

==Notes==
===Differences with ''Car Robots''===

===Animation or technical errors===
*When T-AI sends out the call for X-Brawn and Prowl to investigate the first power plant attack, there is an inexplicable stray two-second shot of Sky-Byte talking to Gas Skunk and Dark Scream just before the logo transition.
*When Sky-Byte is confronted—and insulted—by Megatron at the end of the episode, he somehow manages to summon an extra hand in order to give a 'peace' gesture with both of them. That's impressive.

===Transformers references===
*Slapper persuades Sky-Byte to perform the "[[Universal greeting|universal greeting dance]]" to prove his good intentions.

===Real-world references===
*Side Burn shrugs off the threat of Scourge and the Commandos as being an "[[wikipedia:Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones|attack of the clowns]]", before stating that he'd "seen it already"—despite this episode having aired nearly a year ''before'' the alluded ''[[Star Wars]]'' film was released. Those crazy Autobots and their futuristic ways!

===Trivia===
*[[Ro-Tor (RID)|Ro-Tor]] and [[Movor]] are curiously missing from the Decepticon ranks in this episode, and their absence is never referenced by their erstwhile colleagues. Although given what happened [[Attack from Outer Space|the last time Movor was relied upon to do something]], that's probably understandable.
*This episode marks the second time that Sky-Byte and the Predacons have attempted to disguise themselves as Autobots in order to sabotage their own ostensible team-mates. The overall effect is still far from convincing, but to their credit, they at least manage to disguise themselves as ''different'' Autobots this time, which represents an improvement on [[Commandos|their previous attempt]].
*This episode contains a rare mention of the fact that Koji actually attends school: when the Autobot brothers reach the power plant Sky-Byte sent them to, Koji is there on a class field trip.
*By the way, jellyfish is a misnomer as all actual fish are vertebrates, and jellyfish, as Sky-Byte pointed out, are not. So jellyfish shouldn't be on the fish personality test.

==Home video releases==
{{note|All releases listed are in English audio unless otherwise noted.}}
;DVD
*2000 — ''Transformers: Car Robots'' — Vol. 5 ([[Pony Canyon]]) — Japanese audio only.
*2004 — ''Transformers: Robots in Disguise'' — Three-Disc Box Set: Part 1 of 2 ([[Maximum Entertainment]])
*2007 — ''Transformers: Robots in Disguise'' — Season One (Maximum Entertainment)
*2007 — ''Transformers: Robots in Disguise'' — Ultimate Collection (Maximum Entertainment)

==External links==
*[http://www.ridforever.info/transformers-transcripts/rid-episode-19-the-fish-test.php The Fish Test transcript on RiDForever.info]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Fish Test}}
[[Category:Robots in Disguise episodes]]

Talk:Universal stream

2010-04-08T21:28:15Z

152.15.24.58:

That's right. Even Takara stuff is using this system now. Dude! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:41, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
:Wow. Maybe Ichikawa again? We assumed he was responsible for the material used in that World of the Transformers feature back in 2007. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:52, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
:I require links! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:36, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
:: There are none. [[User:Swift|Peeps]] just know (people who can read) Japanese! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:47, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
::: Well, then! I require... tacos! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:48, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
::::Here: [[From Here to Alternity/src‎]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:39, 3 April 2009 (EDT)
[[Bulletbike (G2)]]'s tech spec bio has its own Universal Stream of Primax 095.0 Beta. Does that mean it isn't even in continuity with other tech spec bios, such as [[Drench (Autobot)]]'s which would presumably be Primax 09'''3'''.0 Beta? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:53, 9 August 2009 (EDT)
::::It'd be in continuity with other tech spec bios from 1995! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:12, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

...wait. Does that mean the Allspark Almanac was actually written by Shattered Glass Jim Sorenson and Bill Forster? --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]]
:Only in-universe. Out of universe, it was written by the non-Shattered Glass versions of us.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:06, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Shattered Glass Jim Sorenson doesn't put billions of in-jokes in his writing, because he doesn't know how to read!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 12:07, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:::But he apparently knows how to write...? Maybe he dictates to SG Bill Forster.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 12:24, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:Thanks guys, you have now totally melted my brain. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 12:32, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

Is there a universal stream for TransTech itself? Or do they consider themselves above that sort of thing? I guess they'd be ### Epsilon, but they don't technically fit into a continuity family, do they? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 20:06, 30 December 2009 (EST)
==How the System works==
Just making sure I understand the system. If for example, a new animated series came out this year, and it was a completely new continuity family, would it be:_____- 010.0 Alpha? I ask because I'm working on my owned fan-based Transformers series (non-profit of course)--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
:Almost. It would be: ______ '''x'''10.'''y''' Alpha, with '''x''' and '''y''' being the month and day the first episode was aired. If the first episode aired today (Feb 12, 2010), it would be: ______ 210.12 Alpha.--[[Special:Contributions/24.224.153.106|24.224.153.106]] 18:15, 12 February 2010 (EST)
:The numbers that feature zeros for x or y come from continuities where parts of the date are unknown or undefined. The G1 Marvel Comics continuity started in September 1984, but if there was any exact date in September, we don't know about it. If the comic was known to have been officially released on September 13, then it would be Primax 984.13 Gamma instead of Primax 984.0 Gamma. Similarly, Bulletbike came out "sometime in 1995," and if it was even in a specific month then we don't know about it, so he's just from Primax 095.0 Beta; if he'd had a "street date" of April 13, then it would be Primax 495.13 Beta. And if we didn't know when in 2007 the live-action movie came out, it'd be Tyran 007.0 Delta (or maybe just Tyran 07.0 Delta). --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]]

Scattorshot (ROTF)

2010-04-08T15:09:18Z

152.15.24.58: /* Revenge of the Fallen */ Scattorshot wasn't in Armada

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:''Scattorshot is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:ROTFtoy-ScattorshotScout.jpg|thumb|350px|Oh, so THAT'S how you look like without glasses.]]
'''Scattorshot''' spends a lot of time carefully planning out any battle tactics he and his teammates can use, and only expects as much time for careful planning and thoughtful action from the Decepticons. Unfortunately, true to their nature, they tend to specialize in suprise attacks or causing just plain random chaos more than anything else, which bugs the heck out of Scattorshot. In fact, nothing upsets him more than the chaos of unplannned battle. However, he still can't help but get his kicks out of peppering the air around [[Divebomb (Movie)|Divebomb]], the latest Decepticon to interrupt his contemplative strategizing, with all the artillery at his disposal. And that's a LOT of artillery. Unfortunately for Scattorshot, he does not realize that the slow and clumsy Decepticon he's using for target practice is just a diversion for an even more duplicious attack by [[Skystalker (ROTF)|another]]...

==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
*'''Scattorshot''' (Scout, 2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' ??

:Scattorshot transforms into an anti-aircraft vehicle resembling a pick-up truck retrofitted for heavy combat, with armaments such as roof-mounted cannons, armor plating and a grated plow. There are many elements on the toy that are a [[homage]] to Scattorshot’s [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|''Cybertron'' counterpart]], including the dual roof-mounted cannons, predominantly dark blue and gray color scheme, black windows, yellow lights and front grill detailing. The plow plays homage to the front-mounted minesweeping claws on the Voyager Cybertron Defense version of ''Cybertron'' Scattorshot. In robot mode, the dual cannons become hand-held rifles.

:There are two variations of Scattorshot available out there, one with light gray parts and one with darker gray parts. Judging by the photos on the blister package, the toy was originally made with dark gray parts, and a running change has made more recent versions of the toy with light gray parts.

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Scattorshot (Cybertron)

2010-04-08T15:08:10Z

152.15.24.58:

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:''Scattorshot is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] portion of the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:ScattorshotPromo01.jpg|right|234px|thumb|He's a little bit country and a lot techno.]]
A former computer-game programmer, '''Scattorshot''' quickly became [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]'s go-to bot for computer work. But the nervy robot not only doesn't think he's cut out for battle, but believes the mere fact that he's done as well as he has ''in'' battle is just a big setup. He's convinced his good luck will run out on him, and run out at the worst possible moment.

As such, Scattorshot has developed a thing about guns. He likes altmodes with a ''lot'' of them. Maybe with enough firepower, he can prolong that whole karma thing. His companions find him to be a bit pessimistic, but far from hopeless... he may make a great soldier someday if he can just get over that nervousness.

Since gaining a new body and joining the [[Cybertron Defense Team]], Scattorshot has gained more confidence and lost some of his pessimism, now that he has two brothers in arms watching his back. That, and the fact his new body has enough weaponry for him to make his own 'luck'.

:''Japanese name:'' '''Backpack''', '''Backguild''' (Vanguard Team)
:''Hungarian name'': '''Sörét''' ("Lead Shot")
:''Russian name'' : '''Пулемёт''' (Machine gun)

==Fiction==
===''Cybertron'' cartoon===
''Voice actor:'' [[Richard Ian Cox]] (English), [[Tarusuke Shingaki]] (Japanese)

{{charstubfiction}}

When Optimus Prime and Scattorshot arrived on [[Earth]], the latter scanned his vehicle mode off of a billboard advertising a war movie. To Prime's surprise, it was a conspicuous military half-track, and berated him for his choice of a disguise. Scattorshot sassed back that Prime's own vehicle mode of a gigantic fire truck armed with huge cannons sure is a good disguise. Then he pretended that Prime had disappeared for the moment, as he was so good at blending in. He finally laid out the advantages of a half-track, such as off-road, all-terrain capability, relatively high speed in difficult conditions and that nobody would ever think to give him a parking ticket.

Prime merely replied "Well... a fire truck is bigger." before quickly driving off. {{storylink|Inferno (episode)|Inferno}}

When [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] appeared inside the Autobot base, Scattorshot charged him but was quickly knocked away. Later he attempted to attack Megatron from behind but hit [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] instead. With the Autobot defeat he accompanied Optimus Prime to [[Earth]]. {{storylink|Fallen (episode)|Fallen}} Once on Earth, Scattorshot showed the Autobots a hologram of their new base, but then changed it due to [[human]] criticism. During the building of the base, he noticed the Decepticons approaching. He then organized the Autobots and humans in the process of hiding the base. {{storylink|Haven}} From Earth he witnessed [[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]]'s attempt to close the [[Unicron Singularity|black hole]] near [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. He then picked up an [[United States Air Force|Air Force]] communication locating [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]]. Optimus goes out to investigate first but when Megatron also shows up Scattorshot arrives as backup. {{storylink|Hidden}} In the search for the Omega Lock, Scattorshot believed they needed to gather information. During another Decepticon attack, he used [[Cyber Key]] Power to attack [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]].

Scattorshot told Bud that he couldn't travel into space, but was eventually convinced by [[Jolt (Cybertron)|Jolt]]. He then took Bud on the [[Space bridge]] up into the sky. Afterward he continued the tour by floating in space inside a giant bubble. A blast then knocked both him and Bud further into space. They were then hit by a satellite and knocked back into Earth's atmosphere. Beginning to burn up, they luckily entered a warp gate created by [[Vector Prime]] and ended up back at the base. {{storylink|Space}} During another encounter with the Decepticons, Scattorshot warned the Autobots that humans were approaching. {{storylink|Speed}} When an earthquake struck, Scattorshot got a fix on its epicenter under a nearby mountain. He then followed Optimus prime to help the humans while keeping a tab on the collapsing moutain remotely. When the Autobots decided to collapse the mountain safely, he blew open the mine shaft. After Optimus sucked up the underground water preventing collapse, he shot the interior of the mountain to finally collapse it. {{storylink|Collapse}}

Scattorshot wasn't enthused about the idea of needing to find the [[Omega Lock]] so he stayed at the base. He then received [[Jolt (Cybertron)|Jolt]]'s message for help in the [[Sahara Desert]]. {{storylink|Time (episode)|Time}} He continued to receive transmissions at base and got Red Alert's from [[Velocitron]]. When [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]] attacks, Scattorshot is one of the first to deploy against him, using [[Cyber Key]] power to fire grenades at the Decepticon. Thundercracker later returned and Scattorshot then used [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]'s cannons to scare him off again. Afterward, Scattorshot received a transmission from an Autobot refugee that claimed to have found the lost seal of [[Atlantis]]. {{storylink|Search}} He located the signal as coming from the [[Bermuda Triangle]]. Once arriving at a nearby coast, he was afraid to go into the ocean, but once Optimus dived in he wasted no time following. Along with Optimus Prime and Landmine, he found he had trouble in the water until being taught how to swim by [[Bud Hansen|Bud]]. Once on the ocean floor he assisted Optimus in clearing away debris from the symbol. Once Megatron arrived he charged at the Decepticon leader but was easily knocked away. When Atlantis exited the water, he was carried by Optimus Prime into the air. {{storylink|Deep}} Atlantis disappeared, amazing Scattorshot and the others. He came to the conclusion that Atlantis was Cybertronian ship and helped the Autobots search around Earth for it. Once Optimus deduced that it was behind the moon, the Autobots went to meet the Decepticons and fought them in space. {{storylink|Ship}}

Scattorshot watched Hot Shot's race from headquarters. He though he needed an oil change after Hot Shot and Prime's combined jumping stunt. {{storylink|Race}} He then watched the second race {{storylink|Detour (episode)|Detour}} and continued to monitor the Autobot teams on [[Velocitron]] and [[Jungle Planet (Cybertron)|Jungle Planet]]. {{storylink|Savage (episode)|Savage}} After the victorious Autobots returned from [[Velocitron]], Scattorshot was present when [[Override (Cybertron)|Override]] added the Cyber Planet Key to the [[Omega Lock]]. He then processed the data that began emanating from it, leading to a set of coordinates on Earth. {{storylink|Champion}} He then went out with the team toward the coordinates up by the north pole. He stated that he felt cold even before heading out. When the Decepticons arrived he slid across the ice and confronted Starscream [[Mudflap (Cybertron)|Mudflap]]. He transformed and drove directly into Mudflap's chest before getting hit by Starscream's water ball and freezing up. Mudflap then pummeled him while he was frozen until the other Autobots arrived. After thawing out he was welcomed to planet Earth by [[Lucy Suzuki]]. {{storylink|Ice}}

After leaving the arctic for some reason, he conversed with the Autobots about Jungle planet. He agreed with Jetfire that that kids should not be able to travel there. {{storylink|Honor}} When the situation on Jungle Planet heated up, Scattorshot appeared out of [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]'s newly created space bridge and helped surround [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]]. {{storylink|Trust (Cybertron)|Trust}} Back on Earth, Scattorshot readied the equipment for the entry of the next Cyber Planet Key. He received energy readings going off the chart and was first to notice the Mini-Cons as they were being used as a medium for [[Primus]]. He then kept contact with the team of Autobots who went again to the north pole. {{storylink|Trap}} After Starscream unleashed his Decepticon army, Scattorshot watched as they flew over Earth from the base. He questioned [[Vector Prime]]'s idea of starting a battle with such a large enemy force, but eventually took off to join the battle. {{storylink|Invasion}}

Scattorshot was at the Autobot base when he found out that there were many [[Fandom|suspicious people]] on the internet. He later traveled via the space bridge away from Earth. While on the bridge, he shot at Starscream, but was defeated. {{storylink|Retreat}} Scattorshot was one of the initial Autobots to meet Colonel Franklin. Later, when Jetfire encountered Thunderblast, Scattorshot locked onto her until she disappeared behind camouflage. When the Autobot base's lights went out, he was the main worker to get them back on. Afterward he noticed Megatron opening a new warp gate on Earth. When the Decepticons invaded, he triple teamed Megatron with Hot Shot and Red Alert, but was critically damaged by Megatron's new Cyber Key weapon. {{storylink|Revelation (episode)|Revelation}} Scattorshot laid heavily damaged, but remained conscious while Vector Prime pulled him away from the battle. He kept thinking it was all over until he was transferred to a nearby military base. There the the base personell attempted to fix him with Coby's help. When the kids said they would never give up, the power of Primus came down from the sky and healed all three of the injured Autobots as well as powering them up. Scattorshot then took a new alternate mode and joined up with the rest of the Autobots who were still battling the Decepticons. When Hot Shot attacked Megatron, he decided to attack Scourge instead. {{storylink|Critical}}

Scattorshot assured the kids and the Mini-Cons that they would be able to hold down the fort at the Autobot base. He then continued battling Megatron and his forces. After Megatron retreated, he followed to aide Optimus Prime at the volcanic island. He focused his attacks on Scourge with the rest of the Cybertron Defense Team. Afterward he was sent to Cybertron as part of a team to slow down the black hole. He had Coby create a space bridge from the volcanic island to Cybertron for the journey. {{storylink|Assault}} On the way to Cybertron, the team encountered a meteor shower. Scattorshot blasted his way through, stating he would have the most points due to shooting the most obstacles. Upon return to Cybertron and finding it swarming with [[Scrapmetal (race)|Scrapmetal]], he attacked them, but was quickly dogpiled upon with [[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]]. {{storylink|Starscream (episode)|Starscream}} He continued fighting off Scrapmetal, {{storylink|United}} until the rest of the Autobots arrived as backup. Scattorshot watched as Optimus Prime presented the Omega Lock then kept track of the status of Cybertron as it appeared to be falling apart. He drove via a spacebridge to the moon to finish watching Cybertron's transformation into [[Primus]]. {{storylink|Cybertron (episode)|Cybertron}} Afterward he set up a connection to talk to Primus. Later, when Red Alert was analyzing [[Jolt (Cybertron)|Jolt]]'s mind, Scattorshot was the first to notice Starscream approaching. He directed a volley toward the Decepticon and then fought against the Decepticon onslaught. {{storylink|Balance}}

Scattorshot joined Vector Prime to help track down the missing kids and Mini-Cons. He wondered why Coby was not using the communicator that had been provided to him. {{storylink|Darkness (episode)|Darkness}} He continued to use the Autobot base computers to scan for some trace of their missing allies. Once they finally pick up a signal, Scattorshot follows in a warp gate created by Vector Prime. They appear in space near the ''[[Atlantis]]'' only to see it warp away. {{storylink|Escape (episode)|Escape}}

Scattorshot broke the news to the other Autobots that [[Override (Cybertron)|Override]] has returned to Cybertron with a nice surprise: a [[Ogygia|spaceship]] they can travel to [[Gigantion]] in. {{storylink|Warp}} On board he ran a tracking program to find Bud, but the trail went cold. Instead, he found Gigantion. Upon landing, he deduced the air was breathable for the kids. Splitting up into groups, Scattorshot found himself transmitting from the ship and noticed sound eminating from underground. Later in a skirmish with the Decepticons, he battled [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)|Thunderblast]]. {{storylink|Giant}} Scattorshot was easily defeated by [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]], but recovered. He piloted the Autobot ship and found the Atlantis hiding in a crevasse. {{storylink|Fury}}

Scattorshot watched as Optimus battled [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]], then followed Hot Shot to go find Bud. He realized that Starscream was powering up the ''[[Atlantis]]'''s guns to unleash it on the city. Later he admitted to helping Coby build his robot suit out of a Scrapmetal. When the Autobots split up into search teams, he and the rest of the Cybertron Defense Force formed team three. {{storylink|City}}

They ran into Sideways and [[Soundwave (Cybertron)|Soundwave]] while seraching for the Cyber Planet Key. He listened to Soundwave's story of [[Planet X (Cybertron)|Planet X]] and was then surrounded by [[Laserbeak (Cybertron)|Laserbeak]]'s smoke. This caused hallucinations resulting in Scattorshot being hit by Hot Shot, who thought he was Sideways. He then had the dilemma of seeing two Hot Shot arms emerge from the smoke. He asked the closest one a question about what [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] did before they travelled through space. The Hot Shot answered wrong and Scattorshot fired into that part of the smoke, brning down Laserbeak. With the smoke clearing he fired upon Soundwave and kicked Sideways down. He then powered up using his Cyber Key and helped the rest of the squad blast a pillar upon Soundwave and Sideways. {{storylink|Challenge}}

Scattorshot and his team looked for a downward passage when they ran into Galvatron and Menasor. After a brief skirmish, they used the [[triangle formation|triangle attack]] to take Menasor down. Then they battled Galvatron at full strength, but were once again beaten down. {{storylink|Scourge (episode)|Scourge}} He slowly got to his feet, and after recovering made his way down to the inner part of Gigantion to jion the rest of the Autobots in shooting Galvatron. {{storylink|Optimus (episode)|Optimus}}

He watched as [[Vector Prime]] inserted the final Cyber Planet Key into the [[Omega Lock]]. Afterward he updated the team on the status of the black hole. When Galvatron arrived, Scattorshot was defeated with the rest of the Autobots. While Optimus Prime and the other flying Autobots were intercepted by Soundwave and Sideways, Scattorshot opened fire from the ground. {{storylink|Showdown (episode)|Showdown}}

He later thought it hopeless to build a [[space bridge]] without the Omega Lock, until he realized that they had three starships at their disposal. When feral denziens from Planet X came through the bridge, he unsuccessfully tried to shut it down. Later while in space he timed Vector Prime's reversal of time so they knew when to enter the warp gate. After clearing the tunnel he resyncronized with the normal timestream. {{storylink|Guardian (episode)|Guardian}} As the Autobots returned to [[Primus]], Scattorshot noticed he was low on energy. {{storylink|Homecoming (episode)|Homecoming}}

===''TransTech''===
Scattorshot served as an [[Axiom Nexus]] tour guide for [[Jackpot]] and [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]]. {{storylink|Gone Too Far}}

===Cyber Key Code content===
Scattorshot didn't just program video games on Cybertron, he also played them. A LOT. Unlike most gamers, his polygon addiction actually came in handy as he used his knowledge of strategy games to help Optimus make plans for fighting the Decepticons.
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Cybertron===
[[Image:CybScattorshot toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|The goggles, in fact, do nothing.]]
*'''Scattorshot''' (Scout-class, 2004/2005)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''GC-06'''
**''Accessories'': 2 missiles, double-barreled gun, Earth Cyber Key

: Scattorshot transforms into a anti-aircraft halftrack of made-up model. In either mode, he can fire two pressure-launched missiles. When a [[Cyber Key]] is inserted in either mode, a (non-firing) missile rack opens up on his primary weapons turret. He also comes with a secondary double-barreled blaster accessory.

:He also comes with an [[Earth]]-style Cyber Key; the [[Hasbro]] version has the [[Cyber Key Codes|Key Code]] "'''s67k'''" on the back

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[[Image:CD Scattorshot toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Overcompensating?]]
*'''Cybertron Defense Scattorshot''' (Voyager-class, 2005/2006)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''GC-20'''
**''Accessories'': 2 missiles, rifle, Cybertron Autobot Cyber Key

: Cybertron Defense Scattorshot transforms into a [[wikipedia:TOS-1|TOS-1 Buratino]] multiple-launch rocket system. The halves of the (non-firing) launcher end up on his arms in robot mode. In either mode, inserting a Cyber Key in each half reveals a new weapon: one side has a pull-out double spring-loaded missile launcher, while the other has a flip-out non-firing blaster barrel. He also comes with an extra long blue hand-held rifle that can be mounted in tank mode thanks to his [[Mini-Con]]-compatible [[Powerlinx]] plugs. Thanks to some clever engineering, despite splitting in half the launcher turret is capable of full 360 degree rotation in at least one direction.

: The [[Takara]] release has slightly different [[Paint operation|paint applications]] for his chest, and his Cybertron Defense/Vanguard Team symbol tampograph is smaller.

: He comes with a [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]-style Cyber Planet Key; the Hasbro version has the Key Code "'''v4kt'''" on the back.

: This mold was also used to make ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' [[Dropshot (Universe)|Dropshot]] and [[Overload (Armada)|Overload]] along with ''[[Timelines (fiction)|Timelines]]'' [[Flak]].

===Universe (2003)===
*'''Scattorshot''' (Scout, 2007)

: The original Scattorshot toy was one of several ''Cybertron'' Scout-class toys also made available on ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' cardbacks, and sold through discount chains like Kay-Bee Toy Works. This version is unchanged from the ''Cybertron'' release.

===Universe (2008)===
*'''Warriors From Three Worlds''' 3-pack (Multi-pack, 2009)
:This pack of three Scout class figures contains unchanged [[Ransack (Cybertron)|Ransack GTS]], [[Repugnus (Cybertron)|Repugnus]] and Scattorshot figures.

==Notes==
[[Image:CDScattorshotColorGuide.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Enhanced by an all-new [[mold]].]]
* According to [[Aaron Archer]] at [[BotCon 2006]], the reason both versions of Scattorshot came with extra blue guns was because both versions had a little more left on the "per item" budget than the normal plans called for, so they added the guns for a little more value.
* In the opening-credit roll call of the Cybertron cartoon series, Scattorshot's name is spelled "[[Scattershot]]". This is also the spelling used on his Cyber Planet Key content.
* According to Cybertron Defense Scattorshot's color guide, he was originally supposed to sport a blue head, like the Scout Class version. However, there was no room left on the [[sprue]] for the blue parts, hence the head was moved to the sprue for the ocher parts instead. And since the budget for [[paint operation]]s had already been used up, it couldn't be painted over in blue either.

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/Scattorshot/scattorshot.htm Scattorshot at TFU.info]

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Talk:Sentinel Prime (G1)

2010-04-07T19:34:17Z

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I think that statement wans't true outside of Dreamwave continuity Walky. Prime-as-leeader-of-the-Autobots didnt' come about until well after SP's death. 'There Shall Come a Leader' and all that said the Autobots were not only led by the High Council, but they also commanded the military. Optimus Prime beign named Commander-in-Chief of the army was the turning point of the war. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
: Isn't there a Marvel UK panel of Sentinel Prime passing the Matrix to Optimus? That's the only full-body shot we've ever got of him. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

...you mean like the one I uploaded 2 minutes ago? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:11, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
: What I'm saying is he looks like he's Autobot leader to me. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:15, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

::And I woudl agree with you. He definatelyt was in The War Within. But in Marvel's backstory (at least UK) Optimus Prime was the first TF made leader of the Autobots, which had previously been led by the High Council (one of the reasons for their ineffectiveness.) And that's jsut the army. NEITHER had been civil leader. (Well, Prime possibly was followign Xaaron's death.)
:::I'd argue that Sentinel Prime was still Autobot leader even though he had a council to answer to. Is UT Optimus Prime not Autobot leader? He has a council of ancients who can veto him as well. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:28, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
::::Good point, and well said. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:42, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

There's a fairly lengthy list of Sentinel Prime's abilities and weapons in the Keepers Trilogy. I plan to put that in his main section since he's such a ciper. Any objections? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:22, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

...and why was he unsuccessful? because he died? Optimus Prime died, does that make him unsuccessful? What about the Primes that reigned during times of peace? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
:Because everyone said he was. Everyone specifically said Sentinel Prime (and all the others) did a piss-poor job. Megatron slaughtered them. It was only Optimus who did a good job. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:36, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

::Really, I could have sworn that Sentinel Prime was Prime before war started, and thus Megatron had slaughtered, at max, one Prime before Optimus. When did <nowiki>{{Template:Tooltip|everyone|Was it Bluestreak? He says lots of things...}}</nowiki> say this? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:40, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
:::A fairly big point is made that none of the previous Primes were military leaders. They were without "clout," as Grimlock put it. They just weren't very good, and it was Optimus who turned the tide of the war. Apparently archivists are great military leaders or something. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:51, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

::::In Dreamwave continuity, there were only 2 more primes prior to Sentinel Prime (not counting Prima) at leat one of which was not deactivated, but instead 'left for parts unknown.'
::::Your very argument, that Sentinel Prime did a 'piss poor job' adnd wasn't suited to beign a war leader lends itself to the belief he'd been appointed PRIOR to the begining of the war. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:48, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::Actually, my belief was that the Matrix just chose shitty Primes. (Which works with what you say the Keepers Trilogy may have been suggesting.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

::::::How does 'Megatron chose Optronix to be a shitty Prime' translate into 'the matrix chose him to be a shitty Prime'?
::::::And it's not suggesting- it's pretty explicit.

<DIV STYLE="nargin:10px;background:#eeeeee;padding:10px;">"Sentinel Prime," Optimus choaked. He was looking up into the face of his predecessor, and he could only imagine the Autobot's shame and disgust.

"I'm not a ghost," Sentinel Prime said. "I'm as real as anything else in your mind, and to your senses. The Matrix within you chose this form to communicate with you."

Optimus almost laughed. This wasn't happening. It couldn't be happening; "Not the best time..."

"You were right to think that an error was made. It never should have been you, Optimus. You should have been free to choose the life you would lead. This burden of leadership had been meant for another. It is only after many years of detailed self-diagnostic routines that the flaw has become apparent."

"No..."

"You need to hear this, Optimus," Sentinel Prime said calmly. "You were chosen to fail. Chosen by Megatron himself."</DIV>

::::::Now, you CAN attempt to say that the Matrix is basically... messign with him. Tryign to shock him back to awareness. (Prime had been deep in a crisis of confidence and badly wounded, was basically considering 'letting go' and letting Megatron finish him off.) The next thing SP says is that- just because Prime had been chosen to fail doesnt' mean he should let Megatron kill him here and now.
::::::The '''problem''' with this argument is that Prime is obesessed with this idea that he wasn't meant to be Prime for all of book 1. And when he finally overcomes this confidence, he does not conclude the message was false, he jsut concludes it doesnt' matter if hr wwas the wrong choice 'at the time,' he's grown into someoen who can fill the role.
::::::Besides, I dont' think the Matrix would encourage Prime to pass the Matrix on to someone else if it was just messing with him, which it did.

::::::It may not have been what Furman meant when he wrote 'rigged the game,' but that's probably what Ciencin was basing it off of. But then, Ciencin probably based the Keepers off a text refernece to the old man from US#60 in the War Within. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:16, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

===Rigged the game===
Again, Derik, you read weird things into pretty straight-forward dialogue. I'm pretty sure the only game he means is battle. War is his, he invented it, yadda yadda yadda. It's common Furman-style rhetoric. I don't really see the conspiracy theory, and I'm puzzled even further how Megatron could rig the Matrix to choose Optromix, especially since he spends the whole first miniseries trying to get the dang thing. If he can manipulate it that deeply from afar, why the hell bother? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:51, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I think it's stupid too. But according the Keepers Trilogy, the claim is real. Or rather, after all the smoke and confusion over the robotic Sentinel Prime underiming Optimus Prime's confidence settled- it emerged that the original vision, which claimed Megatron has chosen Optronix to be Prime in order that he would fail (and thus Megatron would get the Matrix) actually WAS a real vision projected by the Matrix.

So... yeah. You can delete the italicised claim if it suits you, bit it at least fits that otherwise rather ODD bit fromt he books, and makes it seem more like he just pushed them to choose the records-clerk. "He'll be easy." -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:04, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

==Umlauts are Cool==
NEW DISCUSSION TOPIC!

do you think that the evil clone of Hot Rod, as one of Megatron's 'diabolical clones' used diacriticals to distinguish himself from the original?

You know, like: '''Höt Röd''' ?

Was there some point when characters discussed Sentinal Prime and said he had 'a good head on his shoulders- well, he USED to?' Or am I totally remembering somethign that never happened? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:08, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
: "Sentinel Prime, he had his head screwed on." "Not at the end, he didn't."
: So, uh, is it me, or did Stephen Colbert write the italicized portion of the profile? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:01, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

::Yes, but WHERE was that from? I'm blanking, and I dont' have time to sit down and re-read all of TWW to find it, I just got Angelig Days v1, and I have a date with Kowaru slashiness!
::I like to cap off my character biographies with something that sums them up. I can't HELP that this one was inherently hilarious. Prime learnign to trust his heart but USE his fists was the entire damn point of The War Within.
::I should go back and cut down that top entry, I bet you could cut 40% of the text withotu losing any meaning. It was a bitch to get it all structured, but once in place, it could stand to be trimemd back... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:51, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== Not Dead Yet ==

Acoording to Alex Milne (the artist) Sentinel didn't die at the end of Megatron Origin. But like much of his artwork it is kinda hard to tell.

http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=2612

Here is the quote ....."with sentinel prime, he's different then nova, and optimus. he's a brute. also, he's not dead yet. he won't die for a while still. but he has been beaten badly."

==Disambigs==
The number of disambig templates at the top of this article is really ridiculous. We should have sort of statute of limitations. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:36, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
:I think we could ''easily'' limit this one to just a <nowiki>{{disambig3|Sentinel}}</nowiki>--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 03:39, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
::I agree. Just make it a "Sentinel Prime" disambig. The others are fairly superfluous. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 09:01, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

== "Precisely aimed, pointblank shot" ==

Unless this description of Sentinel's armor is a direct quote from someplace, I'd suggest rewording it. I don't think it's logically possible to have a non-precisely-aimed point-blank shot.
:It's definitely possible, especially during a close-quarters struggle. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 22:50, 20 December 2009 (EST)
::Wouldn't it actually be an accurately aimed shot? Shots hitting close to each other are precise, shots hitting the target are accurate. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 22:58, 20 December 2009 (EST)

==Sentinel Major==
I really think, when we get around to adding this info, it should go on [[Sentinel Prime (G1)]]. They are analogous characters within the same continuity family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:55, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
:Seconded. They're using 'Major' as a rank here, not a name.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:55, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::Is 'major' being a rank explicitly stated? There's no physical resemblance between any G1 version of Sentinel Prime and this fellow. -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 13:00, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

::I had been pondering this myself, and I'm not entirely sure it would go on here either, seeing as how there's a good chance that Sentinel is never a Prime in the Wings of Honor continuity.
::I actually do agree with the assertion that Sentinel Major ''is'' probably the WoH equivalent of Sentinel Prime, mind you. It just, well, seems odd to put him on a Sentinel ''Prime'' article if it ends up he's never a Prime.
::(I guess we could just add on some alternate names in the header and make some Notes, but I'm always on the side of trying for obvious clarity first.)
::Although Ayellowbirds does have a point. It's not as if any of the other WoH Autobot leaders we've seen so far have had ranks added to their names. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:19, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
:::The specifics of the name is a non-issue, since these pages are character-entity based. IDW Tankor is probably never gonna be called Octane, but he still goes on Octane's page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:23, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::::They don't resemble each other, either, and there's no evidence yet that one is intended to be analogous to the other. Tankor/Octane were flatly stated to be 'the same', as is Fracture/Crasher, and any number of others. I don't see cause to assume that Sentinel Major is meant to be the same character as G1 Sentinel Prime (he is pretty obviously based on Animated Sentinel Prime, who I'd argue is completely distinct), and I would think that keeping them distinct until they're stated to be the same would be ideal. [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 13:31, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::::Octane/Tankor is obviously intended to be the exact same guy and only has different names due to out-of-universe concerns unrelated to the fiction, so that is irrelevant.
::::Meanwhile, here we have a "Sentinel" who will never be Prime because ''in-universe'' he likely won't attain that rank. So having him at a "Sentinel Prime" page is arguably strange.
::::Now, if this article was at just "Sentinel", then I'd be perfectly fine with it because there'd be no inherent assumption in the title that we're talking about a guy who is a "Prime".
::::There's also the fact that, like I said, do we know "Major" is actually a rank? 'Clash and Metalhawk don't have ranks of any kind, and neither does Magnum, and they all seem to have more status in the hierarchy than someone who at the moment seems like he's just Magnum's attache/bodyguard.
::::Basically, it seems more clear and simple to just give the guy his own page. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:32, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

:ItsWalky!- Aside from sharing the name 'Sentinel', I don't see any clear indication that they're meant to be analogous to each other. [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 13:02, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

I made this article, because my knee-jerk reaction was to go on the wiki and create as complete an article as was possible... and ''then'' it occurred to me to check the policy page. I decided that setting up the page as a place-holding stub might work to prevent other people from making the same mistake I almost did, by having an existing page that links to the policy. It's not the loveliest article, but I don't think it needs to be, just yet. Of course, if I've misunderstood the relevant policies, y'all can go ahead and delete it. -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 12:57, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
:I think the main problem is that sometimes even putting up a article that's the minimum for a placeholder can still be too much of a spoiler, so we usually just hold off. I don't think it's a big deal in this case, but as a general thing... --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:19, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

"Is 'major' being a rank explicitly stated?" Things do NOT always need to be explicitly stated. We have brains and intelligence, we're allowed to use both deductive and even inductive reasoning to make our conclusions. Major has often been used as a rank in Transformers, and Prime these days is almost ALWAYS used as a rank. Whether or not this Sentinel ever explicitly achieves that rank, he's still basically just a new iteration of the same character. As for the physical resemblance to Animated, I think that's to be expected. Sentinel Prime has always been a non-entity in the past, with a non-memorable design. Animated has changed that ... I'd frankly be shocked if future versions of Sentinel Prime (and his ilk) DIDN'T start to drift towards Animated.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:36, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::I'm with Jim. As far as I'm concerned, this is just the G1 cartoon's Sentinel Prime. He may have never become Sentinel Prime, but he's still the same guy. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:49, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
:When these days has Prime been used as a rank in G1? Not arguing, just genuinely curious- I thought that was exclusive to Animated, and that Hasbro was fiercely protective of using the title, otherwise. [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 13:47, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::"Prime" was used as a rank instead of a name the very moment "Rodimus Prime" existed. The cartoon CREATED using "Prime" to indicate rank. The Marvel comic took it further and used "Prime" as a rank for the guys that preceded Optimus as well. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:50, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
:::See, for me, the use in the cartoon and comics (and Hasbro's later use in stories stemming from G1) is more along the lines of a ''title'' like 'saint'. It denotes authority, but also a wholly or semi-spiritual mandate; in contrast, Optimus has the 'rank' of Commander, denoted by his function. That said, I think it starts to become a matter of semantics. -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 14:13, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
:I think I miscommunicated my argument somewhere along the lines. Simply put: there's more factors working AGAINST the assumption that Timelines Sentinel Major ''is'' G1 Sentinel Prime, rather than in favor of it. If you want to talk in terms of Major/Prime being ranks, doesn't G1 canon tend to establish that Sentinel was a Prime ''before'' Optimus was rebuilt from Optronix/Orion? Evidence suggests that this takes place after that, so he'd have to have dropped in rank, unless this is a wildly divergent timeline. As for appearance, G1 Sentinel Prime has pretty consistently been a mass of yellow and orange, at the very least- Sentinel Major is mostly blue. I'm not saying any one of these factors works against the assumption... I'm saying all of them together do so. Can you point out evidence in favor of your assertions? -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 13:47, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::Sentinel could *never* become Sentinel Prime in this timeline and still be the same guy. Was Sentinel a Prime before Orion Pax became Optimus Prime? It doesn't matter. The Dinobots were either part of the Ark crew from Cybertron over 4 million years ago or they were built on Earth in 1985. These are very timeline-conflicty things, and yet they're all on the same pages. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:55, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
:::So why the assertion that Sentinel Major is Sentinel Prime? There's no evidence in favor of that being the intent, and numerous factors working against it. The Dinobots in the different continuities (and continuity conflicts in a given story) are still plainly represented as being the Dinobots, are stated by the creators of those continuities to be the Dinobots, and have an appearance that is consistent with previous versions. My arguments against Sentinel Major being Sentinel Prime aren't airtight, but nobody has given any argument in favor of them being the same. The burden of proof is on your side. -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 14:08, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::::It isn't that complicated. He's the G1 version of Sentinel, so his information goes on the G1 Sentinel page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:11, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::Has it been stated anywhere that that's the case? It sounds to me like you're saying that the evidence that he's meant to be the same as Sentinel Prime is that he shares one part of his name in common with the Prime... which is about as weak an argument as saying that you and I are the same person because we have similar first names. I don't see why there can't be multiple distinct Cybertronians with the [[Silverbolt_(G1)|same]] [[Silverbolt_(BW)|name]] existing in the same continuity. [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 14:20, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::The very fact that he looks pretty much identical to [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)]] is extremely strong evidence that he is intended to, in fact, '''BE''' Sentinel Prime. We've always maintained that, absence evidence to the contrary, characters in Animated that look like their G1 counterpart ARE that character (for instance, [[Spittor (Animated)]] is never referred to by name, but no one argues that maybe it's not Spittor) and I see no reason why we can't use the converse argument here.
::::::In other words, as I said before, we have the capability of using reason, it behooves us to use it. Let's not be intentionally daft. This tendency to stick our fingers in our ears and thrust our heads under the sand is counterproductive to genuinely cataloging knowledge and enhancing our understanding of the beauty that is Transformers. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:54, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::Okay, we can say that "characters in Animated that look like their G1 counterpart ARE that character", so we can say that G1 Sentinel ''Major'' is Animated Sentinel Prime... but neither of them ''look'' like any version of the G1 Sentinel ''Prime''. There '''is''' a demonstrable link between the Animated character and the G1 character in Wings of Honor, but I don't see any link aside from the name between the Animated character and the earlier G1 character. This is like saying [[Jetstorm_(Animated)|Jetstorm]] is [[Jetstorm_(BM)|Jetstorm]]- except there, we at least have some aspects of appearance in common.
::::::As for Spittor, there's authorial intent and other sources outside the cartoon itself to establish that they're meant to be 'the same'. Nothing like that in this case, so far as I've seen. -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 15:33, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::::: Let's imagine, for the sake of argument, that FP puts out a new story, set in a "what if?" universe where, during the events of [[War Dawn]], Orion Pax dies without having ever become Optimus Prime, and Dion goes on to become the leader of the Autobots. This version of Orion would still be a legitimate Optimus Prime (G1). --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]]

Talk:Sentinel Prime (G1)

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I think that statement wans't true outside of Dreamwave continuity Walky. Prime-as-leeader-of-the-Autobots didnt' come about until well after SP's death. 'There Shall Come a Leader' and all that said the Autobots were not only led by the High Council, but they also commanded the military. Optimus Prime beign named Commander-in-Chief of the army was the turning point of the war. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
: Isn't there a Marvel UK panel of Sentinel Prime passing the Matrix to Optimus? That's the only full-body shot we've ever got of him. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

...you mean like the one I uploaded 2 minutes ago? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:11, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
: What I'm saying is he looks like he's Autobot leader to me. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:15, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

::And I woudl agree with you. He definatelyt was in The War Within. But in Marvel's backstory (at least UK) Optimus Prime was the first TF made leader of the Autobots, which had previously been led by the High Council (one of the reasons for their ineffectiveness.) And that's jsut the army. NEITHER had been civil leader. (Well, Prime possibly was followign Xaaron's death.)
:::I'd argue that Sentinel Prime was still Autobot leader even though he had a council to answer to. Is UT Optimus Prime not Autobot leader? He has a council of ancients who can veto him as well. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:28, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
::::Good point, and well said. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:42, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

There's a fairly lengthy list of Sentinel Prime's abilities and weapons in the Keepers Trilogy. I plan to put that in his main section since he's such a ciper. Any objections? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:22, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

...and why was he unsuccessful? because he died? Optimus Prime died, does that make him unsuccessful? What about the Primes that reigned during times of peace? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
:Because everyone said he was. Everyone specifically said Sentinel Prime (and all the others) did a piss-poor job. Megatron slaughtered them. It was only Optimus who did a good job. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:36, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

::Really, I could have sworn that Sentinel Prime was Prime before war started, and thus Megatron had slaughtered, at max, one Prime before Optimus. When did <nowiki>{{Template:Tooltip|everyone|Was it Bluestreak? He says lots of things...}}</nowiki> say this? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:40, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
:::A fairly big point is made that none of the previous Primes were military leaders. They were without "clout," as Grimlock put it. They just weren't very good, and it was Optimus who turned the tide of the war. Apparently archivists are great military leaders or something. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:51, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

::::In Dreamwave continuity, there were only 2 more primes prior to Sentinel Prime (not counting Prima) at leat one of which was not deactivated, but instead 'left for parts unknown.'
::::Your very argument, that Sentinel Prime did a 'piss poor job' adnd wasn't suited to beign a war leader lends itself to the belief he'd been appointed PRIOR to the begining of the war. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:48, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::Actually, my belief was that the Matrix just chose shitty Primes. (Which works with what you say the Keepers Trilogy may have been suggesting.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

::::::How does 'Megatron chose Optronix to be a shitty Prime' translate into 'the matrix chose him to be a shitty Prime'?
::::::And it's not suggesting- it's pretty explicit.

<DIV STYLE="nargin:10px;background:#eeeeee;padding:10px;">"Sentinel Prime," Optimus choaked. He was looking up into the face of his predecessor, and he could only imagine the Autobot's shame and disgust.

"I'm not a ghost," Sentinel Prime said. "I'm as real as anything else in your mind, and to your senses. The Matrix within you chose this form to communicate with you."

Optimus almost laughed. This wasn't happening. It couldn't be happening; "Not the best time..."

"You were right to think that an error was made. It never should have been you, Optimus. You should have been free to choose the life you would lead. This burden of leadership had been meant for another. It is only after many years of detailed self-diagnostic routines that the flaw has become apparent."

"No..."

"You need to hear this, Optimus," Sentinel Prime said calmly. "You were chosen to fail. Chosen by Megatron himself."</DIV>

::::::Now, you CAN attempt to say that the Matrix is basically... messign with him. Tryign to shock him back to awareness. (Prime had been deep in a crisis of confidence and badly wounded, was basically considering 'letting go' and letting Megatron finish him off.) The next thing SP says is that- just because Prime had been chosen to fail doesnt' mean he should let Megatron kill him here and now.
::::::The '''problem''' with this argument is that Prime is obesessed with this idea that he wasn't meant to be Prime for all of book 1. And when he finally overcomes this confidence, he does not conclude the message was false, he jsut concludes it doesnt' matter if hr wwas the wrong choice 'at the time,' he's grown into someoen who can fill the role.
::::::Besides, I dont' think the Matrix would encourage Prime to pass the Matrix on to someone else if it was just messing with him, which it did.

::::::It may not have been what Furman meant when he wrote 'rigged the game,' but that's probably what Ciencin was basing it off of. But then, Ciencin probably based the Keepers off a text refernece to the old man from US#60 in the War Within. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:16, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

===Rigged the game===
Again, Derik, you read weird things into pretty straight-forward dialogue. I'm pretty sure the only game he means is battle. War is his, he invented it, yadda yadda yadda. It's common Furman-style rhetoric. I don't really see the conspiracy theory, and I'm puzzled even further how Megatron could rig the Matrix to choose Optromix, especially since he spends the whole first miniseries trying to get the dang thing. If he can manipulate it that deeply from afar, why the hell bother? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:51, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I think it's stupid too. But according the Keepers Trilogy, the claim is real. Or rather, after all the smoke and confusion over the robotic Sentinel Prime underiming Optimus Prime's confidence settled- it emerged that the original vision, which claimed Megatron has chosen Optronix to be Prime in order that he would fail (and thus Megatron would get the Matrix) actually WAS a real vision projected by the Matrix.

So... yeah. You can delete the italicised claim if it suits you, bit it at least fits that otherwise rather ODD bit fromt he books, and makes it seem more like he just pushed them to choose the records-clerk. "He'll be easy." -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:04, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

==Umlauts are Cool==
NEW DISCUSSION TOPIC!

do you think that the evil clone of Hot Rod, as one of Megatron's 'diabolical clones' used diacriticals to distinguish himself from the original?

You know, like: '''Höt Röd''' ?

Was there some point when characters discussed Sentinal Prime and said he had 'a good head on his shoulders- well, he USED to?' Or am I totally remembering somethign that never happened? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:08, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
: "Sentinel Prime, he had his head screwed on." "Not at the end, he didn't."
: So, uh, is it me, or did Stephen Colbert write the italicized portion of the profile? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:01, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

::Yes, but WHERE was that from? I'm blanking, and I dont' have time to sit down and re-read all of TWW to find it, I just got Angelig Days v1, and I have a date with Kowaru slashiness!
::I like to cap off my character biographies with something that sums them up. I can't HELP that this one was inherently hilarious. Prime learnign to trust his heart but USE his fists was the entire damn point of The War Within.
::I should go back and cut down that top entry, I bet you could cut 40% of the text withotu losing any meaning. It was a bitch to get it all structured, but once in place, it could stand to be trimemd back... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:51, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== Not Dead Yet ==

Acoording to Alex Milne (the artist) Sentinel didn't die at the end of Megatron Origin. But like much of his artwork it is kinda hard to tell.

http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=2612

Here is the quote ....."with sentinel prime, he's different then nova, and optimus. he's a brute. also, he's not dead yet. he won't die for a while still. but he has been beaten badly."

==Disambigs==
The number of disambig templates at the top of this article is really ridiculous. We should have sort of statute of limitations. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:36, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
:I think we could ''easily'' limit this one to just a <nowiki>{{disambig3|Sentinel}}</nowiki>--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 03:39, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
::I agree. Just make it a "Sentinel Prime" disambig. The others are fairly superfluous. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 09:01, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

== "Precisely aimed, pointblank shot" ==

Unless this description of Sentinel's armor is a direct quote from someplace, I'd suggest rewording it. I don't think it's logically possible to have a non-precisely-aimed point-blank shot.
:It's definitely possible, especially during a close-quarters struggle. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 22:50, 20 December 2009 (EST)
::Wouldn't it actually be an accurately aimed shot? Shots hitting close to each other are precise, shots hitting the target are accurate. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 22:58, 20 December 2009 (EST)

==Sentinel Major==
I really think, when we get around to adding this info, it should go on [[Sentinel Prime (G1)]]. They are analogous characters within the same continuity family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:55, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
:Seconded. They're using 'Major' as a rank here, not a name.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:55, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::Is 'major' being a rank explicitly stated? There's no physical resemblance between any G1 version of Sentinel Prime and this fellow. -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 13:00, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

::I had been pondering this myself, and I'm not entirely sure it would go on here either, seeing as how there's a good chance that Sentinel is never a Prime in the Wings of Honor continuity.
::I actually do agree with the assertion that Sentinel Major ''is'' probably the WoH equivalent of Sentinel Prime, mind you. It just, well, seems odd to put him on a Sentinel ''Prime'' article if it ends up he's never a Prime.
::(I guess we could just add on some alternate names in the header and make some Notes, but I'm always on the side of trying for obvious clarity first.)
::Although Ayellowbirds does have a point. It's not as if any of the other WoH Autobot leaders we've seen so far have had ranks added to their names. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:19, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
:::The specifics of the name is a non-issue, since these pages are character-entity based. IDW Tankor is probably never gonna be called Octane, but he still goes on Octane's page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:23, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::::They don't resemble each other, either, and there's no evidence yet that one is intended to be analogous to the other. Tankor/Octane were flatly stated to be 'the same', as is Fracture/Crasher, and any number of others. I don't see cause to assume that Sentinel Major is meant to be the same character as G1 Sentinel Prime (he is pretty obviously based on Animated Sentinel Prime, who I'd argue is completely distinct), and I would think that keeping them distinct until they're stated to be the same would be ideal. [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 13:31, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::::Octane/Tankor is obviously intended to be the exact same guy and only has different names due to out-of-universe concerns unrelated to the fiction, so that is irrelevant.
::::Meanwhile, here we have a "Sentinel" who will never be Prime because ''in-universe'' he likely won't attain that rank. So having him at a "Sentinel Prime" page is arguably strange.
::::Now, if this article was at just "Sentinel", then I'd be perfectly fine with it because there'd be no inherent assumption in the title that we're talking about a guy who is a "Prime".
::::There's also the fact that, like I said, do we know "Major" is actually a rank? 'Clash and Metalhawk don't have ranks of any kind, and neither does Magnum, and they all seem to have more status in the hierarchy than someone who at the moment seems like he's just Magnum's attache/bodyguard.
::::Basically, it seems more clear and simple to just give the guy his own page. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:32, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

:ItsWalky!- Aside from sharing the name 'Sentinel', I don't see any clear indication that they're meant to be analogous to each other. [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 13:02, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

I made this article, because my knee-jerk reaction was to go on the wiki and create as complete an article as was possible... and ''then'' it occurred to me to check the policy page. I decided that setting up the page as a place-holding stub might work to prevent other people from making the same mistake I almost did, by having an existing page that links to the policy. It's not the loveliest article, but I don't think it needs to be, just yet. Of course, if I've misunderstood the relevant policies, y'all can go ahead and delete it. -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 12:57, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
:I think the main problem is that sometimes even putting up a article that's the minimum for a placeholder can still be too much of a spoiler, so we usually just hold off. I don't think it's a big deal in this case, but as a general thing... --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:19, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

"Is 'major' being a rank explicitly stated?" Things do NOT always need to be explicitly stated. We have brains and intelligence, we're allowed to use both deductive and even inductive reasoning to make our conclusions. Major has often been used as a rank in Transformers, and Prime these days is almost ALWAYS used as a rank. Whether or not this Sentinel ever explicitly achieves that rank, he's still basically just a new iteration of the same character. As for the physical resemblance to Animated, I think that's to be expected. Sentinel Prime has always been a non-entity in the past, with a non-memorable design. Animated has changed that ... I'd frankly be shocked if future versions of Sentinel Prime (and his ilk) DIDN'T start to drift towards Animated.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:36, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::I'm with Jim. As far as I'm concerned, this is just the G1 cartoon's Sentinel Prime. He may have never become Sentinel Prime, but he's still the same guy. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:49, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
:When these days has Prime been used as a rank in G1? Not arguing, just genuinely curious- I thought that was exclusive to Animated, and that Hasbro was fiercely protective of using the title, otherwise. [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 13:47, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::"Prime" was used as a rank instead of a name the very moment "Rodimus Prime" existed. The cartoon CREATED using "Prime" to indicate rank. The Marvel comic took it further and used "Prime" as a rank for the guys that preceded Optimus as well. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:50, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
:::See, for me, the use in the cartoon and comics (and Hasbro's later use in stories stemming from G1) is more along the lines of a ''title'' like 'saint'. It denotes authority, but also a wholly or semi-spiritual mandate; in contrast, Optimus has the 'rank' of Commander, denoted by his function. That said, I think it starts to become a matter of semantics. -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 14:13, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
:I think I miscommunicated my argument somewhere along the lines. Simply put: there's more factors working AGAINST the assumption that Timelines Sentinel Major ''is'' G1 Sentinel Prime, rather than in favor of it. If you want to talk in terms of Major/Prime being ranks, doesn't G1 canon tend to establish that Sentinel was a Prime ''before'' Optimus was rebuilt from Optronix/Orion? Evidence suggests that this takes place after that, so he'd have to have dropped in rank, unless this is a wildly divergent timeline. As for appearance, G1 Sentinel Prime has pretty consistently been a mass of yellow and orange, at the very least- Sentinel Major is mostly blue. I'm not saying any one of these factors works against the assumption... I'm saying all of them together do so. Can you point out evidence in favor of your assertions? -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 13:47, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::Sentinel could *never* become Sentinel Prime in this timeline and still be the same guy. Was Sentinel a Prime before Orion Pax became Optimus Prime? It doesn't matter. The Dinobots were either part of the Ark crew from Cybertron over 4 million years ago or they were built on Earth in 1985. These are very timeline-conflicty things, and yet they're all on the same pages. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:55, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
:::So why the assertion that Sentinel Major is Sentinel Prime? There's no evidence in favor of that being the intent, and numerous factors working against it. The Dinobots in the different continuities (and continuity conflicts in a given story) are still plainly represented as being the Dinobots, are stated by the creators of those continuities to be the Dinobots, and have an appearance that is consistent with previous versions. My arguments against Sentinel Major being Sentinel Prime aren't airtight, but nobody has given any argument in favor of them being the same. The burden of proof is on your side. -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 14:08, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::::It isn't that complicated. He's the G1 version of Sentinel, so his information goes on the G1 Sentinel page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:11, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::Has it been stated anywhere that that's the case? It sounds to me like you're saying that the evidence that he's meant to be the same as Sentinel Prime is that he shares one part of his name in common with the Prime... which is about as weak an argument as saying that you and I are the same person because we have similar first names. I don't see why there can't be multiple distinct Cybertronians with the [[Silverbolt_(G1)|same]] [[Silverbolt_(BW)|name]] existing in the same continuity. [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 14:20, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::The very fact that he looks pretty much identical to [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)]] is extremely strong evidence that he is intended to, in fact, '''BE''' Sentinel Prime. We've always maintained that, absence evidence to the contrary, characters in Animated that look like their G1 counterpart ARE that character (for instance, [[Spittor (Animated)]] is never referred to by name, but no one argues that maybe it's not Spittor) and I see no reason why we can't use the converse argument here.
::::::In other words, as I said before, we have the capability of using reason, it behooves us to use it. Let's not be intentionally daft. This tendency to stick our fingers in our ears and thrust our heads under the sand is counterproductive to genuinely cataloging knowledge and enhancing our understanding of the beauty that is Transformers. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:54, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::Okay, we can say that "characters in Animated that look like their G1 counterpart ARE that character", so we can say that G1 Sentinel ''Major'' is Animated Sentinel Prime... but neither of them ''look'' like any version of the G1 Sentinel ''Prime''. There '''is''' a demonstrable link between the Animated character and the G1 character in Wings of Honor, but I don't see any link aside from the name between the Animated character and the earlier G1 character. This is like saying [[Jetstorm_(Animated)|Jetstorm]] is [[Jetstorm_(BM)|Jetstorm]]- except there, we at least have some aspects of appearance in common.
::::::As for Spittor, there's authorial intent and other sources outside the cartoon itself to establish that they're meant to be 'the same'. Nothing like that in this case, so far as I've seen. -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 15:33, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::: Let's imagine, for the sake of argument, that FP puts out a new story, set in a "what if?" universe where, during the events of [[War Dawn]], Orion Pax dies without having ever become Optimus Prime, and Dion goes on to become the leader of the Autobots. This version of Orion would still be a legitimate Optimus Prime (G1). --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]]

Talk:Hasbro Q&A/March 2010: Answers

2010-04-01T21:33:48Z

152.15.24.58:

So.... Sea Spray simultaneously represents a movie-verse version of the character and the classic G1 character? Or am I reading the answer wrong? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:10, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
:I read it as a (possibly deliberate) complete non-answer, as it speaks to "design philosophy," which, uh, wasn't what the question was asking. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 23:16, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
::SO FUCKING FRUSTRATING --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:21, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
:::That's not even an answer to the question, this is so dissapointing---[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 01:09, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
::::I think it's GOT to be intentional. IE. they've realized that tying certain toys to the Movie limits their popularity with certain groups and since they don't have any major media involving these guys WHY NOT be purposly vague about it. They don't have any real reason to tie this toy to any one Universe/Story and they know they'll draw in more fans by keeping it open. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 05:34, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::To me it reads at the G1 character. They're continuing from Classics and there were no movie characters in Classics. However, it seems we're never going to know about those other Constructicons. --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 09:34, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::Or they mean something different from what we mean by "character". Just look at the [[Transformers Hall of Fame]] page. They apparently consider Optimus Prime as a singular character. They may not make a distinction between [[Seaspray (G1)]] and [[Sea Spray (ROTF)]], to them it may all just be Seaspray. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:10, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Yeah, that little "problem" in mind is why I worded the question the way I did. ...even though they didn't answer the question the way I asked it. Grargh! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:12, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::::I think the reason they're being so cagey about this is the same reason they changed the toyline name to just "Transformers." So he's just a Transformers toy, he's an update of one of your favorite characters, you play with him how you like. They seem to be against penning their toys into a single continuity of late.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 11:18, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Heck, I do that with my toys anyway! Repurposing rules! Once it's out of the box, they can't force you to call it anything. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:20, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::So that means Fracture is totally Crasher? We should ask that judging from how Hasbro answers this questions.---[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 16:56, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
:If it's any answer, then it's an answer in favor of him being G1 Seaspray. But its answerness is rather debatable. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi, logged out]]

Talk:Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys

2010-03-31T19:15:12Z

152.15.24.58: /* Optimus Prime and Overload (Multi-pack, 2005) */

== THS-01 ==

Hi.

I couldn't help but notice that the [[Hybrid Style]] [http://www.tfu.info/2005/Cybertron/HybridGalaxyConvoy/galaxyconvoy.htm THS-01 Galaxy Comvoy] is missing from this list - any particulr reason why this is so?

(I have that figure, though not with me in Canada - but I'm not sure if I have enough details to do an entry for it myself...)--[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 17:56, 6 May 2009 (EDT)

:I added an entry for THS-01 - but does anyone have a stock photo, or other suitable image, which can be used to illustrate it? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:39, 2 March 2010 (EST)

== (Armada) Optimus prime GPS problem? ==

Can it be that the original super base version of 'prime suffers from this? I picked one up from a garage sale, and moments later, the smaller Optimus Prime figure's arm just BROKE without stressmarks and there was a little dust falling off.(good that i only payed 10 euros, but still...)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 14:51, 6 September 2009 (EDT)

::I've had my 'Prime for several years and just a couple days ago, the left arm for the normal mode broke off after I noticed it was not as "stiff" as the other wrist. It looks like a GPS fracture, 'cause picking at the piece attached to Prime's arm, a small piece chipped off. Good thing the only other gold plastic on the figure is the button on top of the cab and the super mode's "exhaust pipe" things on the sides of the head. All the other gold is just paint. I just hope superglue can at least temporarily help Prime keep it together. [[Special:Contributions/75.163.226.233|75.163.226.233]] 03:48, 20 March 2010 (EDT)

== Wing Convoy PVC ==
I've got a Wing Convoy PVC, Takara, 2004. Is there any other info on this guy?[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 23:24, 21 October 2009 (EDT)
:There should be. I guess nobody ever got around to adding info on the Armada PVCs. I know Hot Shot and Sideways have them, considering who worked on the pages (;P). Feel free to add info if you have any. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:26, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

==Optimus Prime and Overload (Multi-pack, 2005)==
: I just noticed that the picture of the combined mode with Overload also is combined with Jetfire. Was he also included?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 16:54, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:: He was not. That probably means we need a different picture. --[[Special:Contributions/152.15.24.58|152.15.24.58]] 15:14, 31 March 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys

2010-03-31T19:14:59Z

152.15.24.58: /* Optimus Prime and Overload (Multi-pack, 2005) */

== THS-01 ==

Hi.

I couldn't help but notice that the [[Hybrid Style]] [http://www.tfu.info/2005/Cybertron/HybridGalaxyConvoy/galaxyconvoy.htm THS-01 Galaxy Comvoy] is missing from this list - any particulr reason why this is so?

(I have that figure, though not with me in Canada - but I'm not sure if I have enough details to do an entry for it myself...)--[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 17:56, 6 May 2009 (EDT)

:I added an entry for THS-01 - but does anyone have a stock photo, or other suitable image, which can be used to illustrate it? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:39, 2 March 2010 (EST)

== (Armada) Optimus prime GPS problem? ==

Can it be that the original super base version of 'prime suffers from this? I picked one up from a garage sale, and moments later, the smaller Optimus Prime figure's arm just BROKE without stressmarks and there was a little dust falling off.(good that i only payed 10 euros, but still...)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 14:51, 6 September 2009 (EDT)

::I've had my 'Prime for several years and just a couple days ago, the left arm for the normal mode broke off after I noticed it was not as "stiff" as the other wrist. It looks like a GPS fracture, 'cause picking at the piece attached to Prime's arm, a small piece chipped off. Good thing the only other gold plastic on the figure is the button on top of the cab and the super mode's "exhaust pipe" things on the sides of the head. All the other gold is just paint. I just hope superglue can at least temporarily help Prime keep it together. [[Special:Contributions/75.163.226.233|75.163.226.233]] 03:48, 20 March 2010 (EDT)

== Wing Convoy PVC ==
I've got a Wing Convoy PVC, Takara, 2004. Is there any other info on this guy?[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 23:24, 21 October 2009 (EDT)
:There should be. I guess nobody ever got around to adding info on the Armada PVCs. I know Hot Shot and Sideways have them, considering who worked on the pages (;P). Feel free to add info if you have any. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:26, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

==Optimus Prime and Overload (Multi-pack, 2005)==
: I just noticed that the picture of the combined mode with Overload also is combined with Jetfire. Was he also included?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 16:54, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:: It was not. That probably means we need a different picture. --[[Special:Contributions/152.15.24.58|152.15.24.58]] 15:14, 31 March 2010 (EDT)

Rumble (G1)

2010-03-31T19:06:23Z

152.15.24.58: /* Generation 2 */

{{factions|decepticon|decepticong2}}
{{disambig3|Rumble}}
:''Rumble is a [[Decepticon]] [[Decepticon Mini-Cassette|Mini-Cassette]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:RumbleMissingInAction.jpg|right|275px|thumb|Ready to shake, break, rattle and QUAKE!]]
'''Rumble''' is your basic street punk. Small, but always acting tough as a cover. Not exactly the most subtle of [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]'s [[Mini-Cassette|spies]], but what he lacks in discretion, he makes up for by being the brawler of the group. He talks tough because he ''is'' tough. Quick-tempered and of a generally mean disposition, he follows [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] eagerly, as the Decepticon leader lets him indulge in destruction. Rumble has a tendency to toss out a taunting rhyme at his enemies and is, according to [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]], a "jerk" (or at other times, a "sawed-off nerd").

As the Decepticon demolitions expert, Rumble loves nothing more than to break things apart. His arms can transform into powerful piledrivers that, when pounded against the ground, can cause earthquakes, usually with fissures. He can be easily overpowered in a one-on-one match, though the real challenge is actually getting to him first. Even if you do, you usually need to get through his [[Relatives|brother]] [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] either before or after you get Rumble.

{{quote|If on Decepticon turf you happen to tumble, look out, robot, 'cause here comes Rumble!|Rumble, thinking he's funny|"[[S.O.S. Dinobots]]"}}

:''Portuguese name (Brazil comics):'' '''Estrondo''' ("Bang")
:''Hungarian name'': '''Görgető''' ("Trundler")
:''Italian name:'' '''Tremor'''
:''Portuguese name (Portugal comics)'': '''Trovão''' ("Thunder")
:''Russian name'': '''Gromila''' ('''Громила''', "Thug")
:''Chinese name (Taiwan):'' '''Rambo''' (蘭波, ''Lán Pō'', not [[wikipedia:Rambo|that one]])
:''Chinese name (China):'' '''Hong Long Long''' (轟隆隆，an [[wikipedia:Onomatopoeia|Onomatopoeia]] of the rumbling sound)

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
{{noteukonly}}
[[Image:PowerPlay Rummmble.JPG|left|250px|thumb|That's my name, don't wear it out.]]
Millions of years ago on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Rumble was among [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s elite warriors in the Decepticon ranks. He was present when the Decepticons attempted to overpower the crew of the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], and ended up plunging down to the planet Earth below with all the other Transformers on-board. They remained dormant and inactive until 1984, when the volcano their ship was nestled under erupted, bringing the Ark's sensors back online, and the Cybertronians with it. {{storylink|The Transformers (issue)|The Transformers}} Megatron and the Decepticons immediately began plans to loot the planet's rich sources of energy. Rumble's ability to generate low-frequency groundwaves was instrumental in shaking loose equipment from the [[Harrison Nuclear Power Plant]], giving the Decepticons the raw materials necessary for the construction of their [[Fortress Sinister]]. {{storylink|Power Play!}} After securing a human fuel specialist, it was Rumble who provided [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] with a sample of Cybertronian fuel for analysis, simply by popping off his hand and pumping fuel from his wrist socket. Eww. As the Autobots confronted the Decepticons at their newly fortified base, Rumble came out to greet them. He used his earthquakes to knock [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] off-balance, but [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] just barreled his way through the tremors and decked the junk-punk with one punch. After dealing with the Autobot pugilist, [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] scooped up his brother and brought him back into the base for repairs, but they were assaulted by [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] and his [[Spider-Man|arachnid partner]]. {{storylink|Prisoner of War!}}

''Rumble was actually in favor of Decepticon democracy at one point, grumbling that [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] "deserved a vote" during one of the Air Commander's infamous arguments with Megatron. He was, however, smart enough not to grumble too loudly. {{storylink|The Enemy Within!}} Starscream later got his way, and the Decepticons staged an attack on the Ark. Rumble tried to pit himself against the Autobot warrior named [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], but found himself severely outmatched by the Autobot's piledriver punch. {{storylink|Raiders of the Last Ark}}''

[[Image:PrimeTime Rumble sweat.JPG|right|200px|thumb|If only I hadn't forgotten to take my Insulin this morning...]]
Heavily damaged due to earlier battles, Rumble sat out the next Decepticon offensive against the Ark, and was not reactivated until after Decepticon leadership had shifted from Megatron to the returning [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. Thanks to their new commander, the Decepticons had secured the Ark and all of the Autobots were believed incapacitated. Despite all these victories, Rumble failed miserably at guarding the Ark, letting one [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] sneak by him and abscond with the [[Creation Matrix]]. It turned out Rumble's optical circuitry was too low-rez to pick up on humans in his peripheral. {{storylink|The New Order}} Shockwave actually had to run Rumble's memories through a computer-enhanced refinement process before he could even see the culprit. Needless to say, Shockwave was NOT happy when he found out. {{storylink|Brainstorm!}} Waiting for his punishment, Rumble actually began developing moisture and condensation on his face-plate in anticipation. Fortunately for Rumble, his only punishment was to guard their human slaves at the [[Blackrock Aerospace Assembly Plant Number One]]. Unfortunately for Rumble, he was no better at watching multiple humans than he was at watching one—the humans revolted when [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] turned on Shockwave, and Rumble was unable to stop them from escaping the plant. {{storylink|Prime Time!}}

[[Image:CommandPerformances RumbleFrenzy explode.JPG|left|120px|thumb|Ow.]]
Shockwave's defeat left the Decepticons leaderless for a time, and Rumble served various masters until Megatron and Shockwave reached an accord, agreeing to work together as co-leaders of the Decepticons. Rumble didn't last long into this new regime, however. Almost as soon as the Decepticons officially relocated to a coal mine in Wyoming, Megatron led Rumble and several of his fellow soldiers in an attack on the Ark. Having been alerted by Shockwave to an all-out Autobot assault on the mine, Megatron concluded that the Ark and its secrets would be relatively unguarded, and ripe for the picking. Well, Megatron was wrong... on an epic scale. Rumble and the Decepticons were treated to the first battle field test of the Autobots' new defense base: [[Omega Supreme (G1)|OMEGA SUPREME]]. Rumble was blown to pieces by Omega Supreme's plasma cannon, along with Starscream, [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], and Frenzy. Only Megatron and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] managed to limp away from the battle at all. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}

''When Starscream awoke from his life support machine on the Ark, he saw that Frenzy and Thundercracker were close to regaining consciousness, but that Rumble, Skywarp, and Buzzsaw were far from rehabilitated. {{storylink|Target: 2006}}''

Rumble remained a prisoner of the Autobots for years, his disassembled component parts resting in the Ark's detention facility until the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] raided the spaceship during a battle on the moon. {{storylink|Totaled!}} Although he was presumably reconstructed along with his fellow Decepticons, Rumble was still virtually never seen again.

{{-}}
=====Earthforce=====
{{earthforcefiction}}
''Rumble, along with his fellow cassette [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], apparently chose to serve under Shockwave and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] when the Decepticon factions split on Earth, fighting on the opposite side of Soundwave. He was present at the [[Enclave]], joining in the massive melee initiated by the Autobots {{storylink|The Bad Guy's Ball!}}, and was later seen on Starscream's observation duty monitors. {{storylink|Bugged!}} After the two factions reunited, Rumble nestled back into his old space inside Soundwave's chest. No hard feelings, right big guy? {{storylink|Divide and Conquer!}}''

{{note|Because Earthforce was printed in black-and-white, it's possible some of his above appearances were actually Frenzy. However, only one FIBRIR bodytype was ever seen at a time, Rumble was identified by name in one issue, and Frenzy was never named, so for simplicity's sake we are assuming only Rumble was present in Earthforce.}}

====Generation 2====
[[Image:FrenzyRumbleRepair-G2.jpg|right|120px|thumb|Rumble also goes by that handle on Team Fortress 2.]]

Surprisingly, Rumble and Frenzy were both acting as ''medics'', reviving and rebuilding [[Darkwing]]. Rumble was later present for Megatron's throttling of Optimus Prime and the capture of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]] from his chest. When the other Autobots arrived, Rumble used his piledrivers to toss [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] for a loop. {{storylink|The Gathering Darkness}} Later, after the Decepticons joined forces with the Autobots, Rumble accompanied his leader to the planet [[Ethos]], and was seen mopping up the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian]] resistance after the Cons saved the Autobots' tailpipes. {{storylink|Escalation!}}

When [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] unleashed his full battalion against his ancestors, Rumble was manning the [[Warworld]]'s bridge alongside Soundwave and Frenzy. Both of his fellow bridge officers apparently jettisoned to safety before Starscream took full command of the Warworld, and so Rumble may have done so as well. {{storylink|A Rage in Heaven!}}

{{-}}

====''Universe'' bio====
Rumble became even more anti-social after the death of his brother, Frenzy, in the Swarm war, and was eventually abducted by [[Unicron]] to join his [[Minions of Unicron]] in the battle against the [[Children of Primus]].

{{note|This bio is not ''entirely'' official. It comes from the [[BotCon 2006]] customization class, but it was apparently never vetted by Hasbro (much like [[Nightracer]]'s).}}

===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]] (English), [[Ken Shiroyama]] (Japanese), [[Katsumi Suzuki]] (Japanese, "Attack of the Autobots" and "Day of the Machines" only), [[Ken Yamaguchi]] (Japanese, ''The Transformers: The Movie'' only) (see note below regarding Japanese cartoon)

[[Image:Mtmte1_rumble_robotmode.jpg|left|175px|thumb|And, thus, an entire generation was confused...]]

Four million years ago, Rumble was a member of the original Decepticon raiding party that boarded the [[Ark (G1)|Autobots' spacecraft]], which then crashed into prehistoric Earth, knocking all the Transformers aboard offline. When they were reawakened in 1984 by a volcanic eruption, Rumble was reformatted by [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]] into an audio cassette that fit snugly into Soundwave's chest compartment. As soon as the Decepticons had withdrawn from the crashed hulk of the Autobots' ship, Soundwave deployed Rumble to help [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] gather materials for construction of a temporary headquarters. Casually brushing off Starscream's constant complaints about [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s leadership abilities, Rumble put his piledrivers to work reducing a power plant to scrap to provide the needed building materials.

[[Image:Mtmte3 rumble vs hound.jpg|right|thumb|220px]]

With their temporary base in place and plans for a [[Victory (ship)|new space cruiser]] ready, the Decepticons began gathering energy from Earth's many available sources. They began with an attack on an offshore oil rig, during which Rumble menaced human worker [[Sparkplug Witwicky]], and shoved the man's son, [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]], into the ocean when he tried to attack the small Decepticon.{{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 1}} Soon after, exploiting information stolen from Teletraan I, the Decepticons had Rumble cause a tidal wave that would push the power output of the hydroelectric plant at [[Sherman Dam]] to its maximum capacity. Rumble was caught in the act by the Autobot [[Hound (G1)|Hound]], but in spite of his diminutive size, Rumble came out on top in the underwater battle, burying Hound under a pile of rocks. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 2}} Rumble and Hound had a rematch during the battle to prevent the Decepticons escaping Earth in their finished cruiser, but this time, Rumble didn't fare so well. The battle was soon called off so the Decepticons could board their ship, but Autobot spy [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] also snuck aboard and sabotaged the craft in mid-flight. As it plummeted back to Earth, Rumble began freaking out, fearing the impact would destroy them. Luckily for the little guy, he was wrong. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 3}}

[[Image:Rumble.jpg|left|thumb|220px|I thought it was supposed to be red or blue, Why AM I PURPLE?!?!]]

When next seen, Rumble was guarding the Decepticons' [[space bridge]] with [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] as they awaited the return of Megatron from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Once Megatron had emerged from the bridge, Rumble joined him in attacked the laboratory of [[Doctor Alcazar]] and stood guard outside, warning the Autobots to keep their distance as Megatron worked to create [[antimatter]] with the lab's facilities. Although Hound and Mirage were able to sneak by Rumble using their hologram and invisibility powers, the Autobots were unable to stop Megatron completing his experiment, and Rumble took part in his leader's subsequent attack on [[Ark (G1)|Autobot Headquarters]]. Megatron's plan was foiled when the Autobots used a remote control device to take over [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]'s body, causing him to fire the antimatter-powered Megatron at Rumble. {{storylink|Roll for It}}

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Rumble was helping Starscream and [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] load [[energon cube]]s for transport through the space bridge when a team of Autobots arrived with the intention of using the bridge themselves. Rumble tried to open a crevasse beneath [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], but the Decepticons were then ordered by Megatron to let the Autobots use the bridge. While they were absent, Megatron staged an attack on Autobot Headquarters, during which Rumble rumbled with [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer}} Rumble was later instrumental in the Decepticons' plan to tap the heat energy of the Earth's core, as he smashed through the polar ice to help locate the crystal shaft they needed. In the process, he also uncovered the frozen body of [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]]. {{storylink|Fire in the Sky}}

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When the Decepticons attacked the [[Great Falls]] hydroelectric power plant, Rumble helped Megatron dispatch the counter-attacking Autobots with an unusual tactic: using the planet's equipment, Megatron channeled the seismic energy of tremors created by Rumble to boost the power of his [[fusion cannon]], and blasted all the Autobots into the river. When the Autobots' newest members, the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], arrived to save their comrades, Rumble pitted his piledrivers against [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]], who came out on top by creating a quake so powerful it broke Rumble's piledrivers off! {{storylink|S.O.S. Dinobots}} Then, after helping Megatron steal steel in [[Peru]], {{storylink|Fire on the Mountain}} Rumble lent a hand making energon cubes from the energy of a mysterious [[Meteorini Chipperoni|meteorite]]. {{storylink|War of the Dinobots}}

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Brashly striding through the open front door of Autobot Headquarters, Rumble set about causing tremors throughout the Autobots' base to distract the heroic robots while Laserbeak kidnapped Sparkplug Witwicky right out from under their noses. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 1}} Rumble then served as something of a "lab assistant" to the Decepticons' new human ally, [[Doctor Arkeville]], as he turned Sparkplug and many other captured humans into mind-controlled slaves with his [[hypno-chip]]s. Rumble took a perverse enjoyment in watching the human slaves suffer, yanking one through an electric field {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 2}} and tripping one unfortunate up while he was trying to do his allotted job. Rumble monitored the tidal waves created by Cybertron's gravity for Megatron, then joined in the final battle on a tropical island, where he tried once again to open a crevasse beneath Bumblebee, but got knocked into it himself. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 3}} After Cybertron was moved back out Earth's orbit, the Decepticons set about repairing the damage the planet's gravity had caused to their [[Decepticon Headquarters|undersea headquarters]]. When Skywarp started bossing around Rumble and his brother [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], the two tiny terrors double-teamed Skywarp and brought him to the ground, and would have kept on fighting if Megatron had to not arrived to knock them into line. The battle-ready Rumble then accompanied Megatron to Doctor Arkeville's laboratory, where they were forced to team up with the Autobots to save the planet from his overloading [[Exponential Generator]]. {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (episode)|Countdown to Extinction}}

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Rumble was next spotted gathering energon cubes at a shipyard in [[Bali]], {{storylink|A Plague of Insecticons}} after which he joined the other Decepticons in contributing his [[power chip rectifier]] to a machine that would transfer all their special abilities to Megatron. With these additional powers, Megatron challenged [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] to one-on-one combat, using Rumble's quake-generating abilities to open a chasm into which Prime tumbled. When the Decepticons' duplicity was revealed, they were all sent falling into a river of lava, Rumble included. {{storylink|Heavy Metal War}}

Rumble was standing by as Megatron schemed to take control of "Autobot Spike," {{storylink|Autobot Spike}} then participated in the Decepticons invasion of [[New York City]], where he joined Soundwave and Frenzy in attacking a team of Autobots in Central Park. {{storylink|City of Steel}} Rumble and the other cassettes later staged another attack on Autobot Headquarters, in order to distract the Autobots while Megatron and Starscream snuck inside to sabotage their [[recharging chamber]]s. Rumble tussled with Optimus Prime and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], sending the two Autobots falling into one of his crevasses, only to have them come bounding out and clobber him when he peered over the edge to observe their fate. {{storylink|Attack of the Autobots}}

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Rumble helped defend the installation the Decepticons were used to experiment with [[electro-cell]]s, {{storylink|Traitor}} after which he was put in charge of controlling the stolen Autobot invention, the [[immobilizer]], {{storylink|The Immobilizer}} and was briefly glimpsed in battle in the ghost town the Decepticons were used as a staging base. {{storylink|The Autobot Run}}

When the Decepticons allied themselves with the inhabitants of the underwater city of [[Sub-Atlantica]], Soundwave observed the Autobot infiltrators Bumblebee, Spike and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] pursuing the Sub-Atlantican king [[Nergill]] into the city's depths. Unable to follow due to his size, Soundwave sent Rumble and Ravage after them, but once they had tracked them down, Rumble was shocked to discover that the insane Nergill was planning to blow up Sub-Atlantica and everyone on it. Rumble tried to stop Nergill by activating his piledrivers and collapsing the chamber, but the mad fish-king dug his way out of the rubble and destroyed his city. {{storylink|Atlantis, Arise!}}

[[Image:Autoberserk_rumble_in_negavator.jpg|left|thumb|220px|[[Headmaster (Animated)|"Yes! I am soooo 1337!"]]]]

Rumble helped in the Decepticon plan to take over a fleet of oil tankers by firing [[Remote Control Circuit Linker|circuit linker cards]] at the ships that put them under the control of the super computer [[TORQ III]]. When a team of Autobots arrived to investigate, they were captured, and Rumble and Ravage served as their jailers until Spike engineered their escape by pinning the two cassettes to the wall with an electromagnet. {{storylink|Day of the Machines}} Rumble later put his piledrivers into action to help steal the human-built robot [[Nightbird (G1)|Nightbird]] {{storylink|Enter the Nightbird}} and helped the Decepticons defend a crevice of [[korlonium crystal]]s from Autobot incursion. {{storylink|A Prime Problem}}

Together with Soundwave and his other cassettes, Rumble attacked the testing site for the Autobots' new weapon, the [[Negavator]]. While Frenzy kept Optimus Prime busy, Rumble was able to get inside the cockpit of the Negavator itself, but before he could turn its power on Prime, [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] blasted the machine and shorted out the controls. Their mission foiled, the Decepticons fled, but as a parting gesture, Rumble launched a missile that demolished the control bunker and injured [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]]. The Decepticons made another play for the Negavator only a short time later, this time trying to bury the Autobots under an avalanche caused by Rumble, but enjoyed a similar lack of success. {{storylink|Auto Berserk}}

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While searching the jungles of South America for the ruins of their [[Nemesis (G1)|old starship]], Rumble started bickering with Starscream, and was highly amused when the air commander was caught in the coils of a giant snake. When their quest ended in success, Rumble indulged in a bout of celebratory over-energizing with his fellow Decepticons that evening. {{storylink|Microbots}}

When the Decepticons fooled the population of Earth into believing the Autobots were villains and they were the true heroes, Rumble kept up appearances by attending a disco with Soundwave and the other cassettes, and genuinely quite enjoying himself. With the Autobots exiled to space, the Decepticons' ruse came to an end, and Rumble was made a slave-master in the work camp that the conquered [[Central City (G1)|Central City]] was turned into a slave camp. When [[Chip Chase]] tried to escape, Spike covered his flight by shoving a cart of energon cubes into Rumble, who was in turn sent crashing into a generator and was electrocuted. Although Chip was soon recaptured, it was not long before the Autobots returned to Earth to clear their names and send the Decepticons packing. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2}}

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Rumble was among the Decepticons who began malfunctioning due to the deterioration of his [[cybertonium]], causing him to uncontrollably deploy his piledrivers and start pummelling Megatron's leg. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1}} Once repaired, Rumble participated in a Decepticon mission to [[United Kingdom|Great Britain]], where he, Starscream, Ravage and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] all found themselves cast back in time to the Middle Ages by the mysterious, magical [[Dragon Mound]]. Falling in with local ne'er-do-well [[Sir Wigend du Blackthorne]], the energy-deprived Decepticons took part in a local jousting tournament as Wigend's representatives, in order to win ownership of the land owned by his rival, [[Sir Aetheling the Red]], as the first step towards conquering the planet. Armed with a lance and shield and riding atop Ramjet, Rumble jousted with Sir Aetheling himself, but was defeated, prompting Starscream to discard chivalry and kidnap Sir Aetheling's daughter [[Nimue]]. [[Image:Raiderrumblepoo.jpg|right|thumb]] To repel the inevitable rescue attempt, Starscream had the Decepticons gather the ingredients necessary to make [[Dragon's Bane|gunpowder]]; Rumble got the unenviable job of gathering the "potassium nitrate" he required. Eventually, the Decepticons were defeated by [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] and [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]], who had followed them back through time, and the wizard [[Beorht]], and were returned to their rightful era. {{storylink|A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court}}

Rumble was among the Decepticons who temporarily gained the power of an [[electrum]] coating, {{storylink|The Golden Lagoon}} worked in the [[New Jersey (Earth)|New Jersey]] Pine Barrens to create an army of robot car warrior {{storylink|Make Tracks}} and was caught up in the menace of the [[Morphobot]]s. {{storylink|Quest for Survival}}

[[Image:G1-Cartoon-SeaChange-Rumble-Tree.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Grandmother <strike>Willow</strike> Rumble.]]

Accompanying Megatron to the world of the [[Tlalakan]]s to quash a rebellion among the inhabitants, Rumble wound up falling into their [[Well of Transformation]], which caused his body to warp and change. Not understanding what was happening to him, Rumble begged the native girl [[Alana]] to help him, and she informed him that he needed to think of a tree in order to survive. Rumble complied... and promptly turned into one! Stuck in this immobile form on the shores of the well, Rumble was left out of the following battle until an explosion knocked him back into its waters and he returned to normal. {{storylink|Sea Change}}

Rumble was dispatched to Cybertron with Starscream and Ramjet to locate the headquarters of the [[Female Autobots]], and used his piledrivers to collapse the base on Starscream's orders. {{storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}} A little later, Rumble helped Soundwave prepare the [[psycho-probe]] to scan the mind of [[Astoria Carlton-Ritz]], but the heiress's ability to jinx machines around her just meant that the unfortunate duo wound up being electrocuted by the device. {{storylink|The Girl Who Loved Powerglide}} Then, when the Decepticons invaded a movie lot to recover footage that a crew had taken of [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] carrying a secret cargo, Rumble mistook some animatronic dinosaurs for the Dinobots and blasted them to bits. {{storylink|Hoist Goes Hollywood}}

[[Image:KeytoVectorSigmaPt1_stealing_DragStrip.jpg|right|thumb|220px|Sadly, not an unlockable racer in Super Mario Kart.]]

Seeking to challenge the Autobots' rule of the roads, Megatron charged Rumble with stealing an assortment of cars and trucks that he could rebuild as Decepticons. His small size worked in his favour, and Rumble invaded a Formula 1 race track, hijacked some bank robbers' getaway car and terrorized a trucker named [[Possum Brown]] to get the vehicles Megatron required. Impressed by the rebuilt cards "stunt-driving", Rumble inspired Megatron to name his new creations the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]]. Rumble subsequently accompanied Megatron to Cybertron to bestow life to the Stunticons using the mega-computer [[Vector Sigma]], although Rumble found the unassuming spherical form of the computer a bit underwhelming. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1}} The Decepticons then returned to Earth, and Rumble helped set up equipment to analyze the [[Key to Vector Sigma]]'s power. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2}}

Rumble travelled to [[Galata Valley]] with Megatron and Soundwave to help search for the [[Pearl of Bahoudin]], {{storylink|Trans-Europe Express}} following which he went on a significantly greater journey, voyaging to the planet [[Antilla]] with Megatron, Starscream and [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]. The deserted planet creeped Rumble out, and he was happy when they left, with a new "[[Lightning Bug]]" heat ray weapon into the bargain. They also came away with the dreaded [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]] plague, and Rumble accompanied Megatron as he used the Lightning Bug to spread the disease through Autobot Headquarters. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}} For his final recorded adventures in the 20th century, Rumble battled Starscream's [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]], {{storylink|Starscream's Brigade}} and helped operate Megatron's [[Giant Purple Griffin|new fortress]], activating its flight systems and turning its weapons on [[Superion (G1)|Superion]]. {{storylink|Aerial Assault}}

[[Image:Rumblevsperceptor.jpg|220px|thumb|left|Alright, open wide...]]
Over the course of the next twenty years, the Decepticons succeeded in conquering all of Cybertron and forcing the Autobots to relocate to bases on two of the planet's moons, and to their new home of [[Autobot City]] on Earth. In 2005, when the Decepticons staged a [[Battle of Autobot City|major assault against Autobot City]], Rumble, Frenzy, Ravage and [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] were deployed by Soundwave to disable a communications tower that [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] was using to broadcast a message to Optimus Prime at [[Moonbase One]]. After doing so, Rumble proceeded to smash his way into the tower with his piledrivers, and he and his fellow cassettes then piled on [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]. Blaster then unleashed his own cassettes on them, and Rumble wound up grappling with [[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]]. Unfortunately for the Decepticons, Rumble and his fellow cassettes had not acted quickly enough, and Blaster's distress call had indeed reached Optimus Prime, who soon arrived on Earth and defeated Megatron in battle. With the fall of their leader, the Decepticons retreated aboard Astrotrain, with Rumble carrying Megatron's fusion cannon while Soundwave carried Megatron himself. Once the Decepticons were on their way, it became necessary to jettison excess weight so that Astrotrain could make it to Cybertron, and Megatron was one of those ejected, prompting an argument over who should replace him as leader. When [[Hook (G1)|Hook]] called Soundwave "an uncharismatic bore", Soundwave ejected his cassettes to fight for his honor, and Rumble took particular umbrage at the insult. The Constructicons formed Devastator to teach them a lesson, but Rumble and Frenzy caused him to separate by shaking Astrotrain with their piledrivers. In the end, Starscream won out, and Rumble was present for his coronation...and subsequent disintegration by a powerful new Decepticon who appeared during the ceremony. Impressed by this show of force, Rumble asked what his name was so that the Decepticons could all cheer for him, and the newcomer announced he was [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}

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Galvatron's leadership did not start well, as the Decepticons were all subsequently forced off of Cybertron by the Autobots following the defeat of the planet-eating [[Unicron]]. Badly damaged and low on energy, they retreated to the burnt-out planet of [[Chaar]], but even this great fall didn't dampen Rumble's spirits, as he was heard loudly advocating both "pulverowderizing" and "powderulverizing" the Autobots. [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] credited Rumble's enthusiasm, but pointed out they could hardly carry out his plan when they barely had enough energy to just stay alive. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1}} When Autobot leader [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] was found spying on the Decepticons with Grimlock, and Rumble joined the other Decepticons in mauling them before they were resuced by their Autobot comrades. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 2}}

Rumble was last seen a short while later, consuming the much-needed energon brought to Chaar by the [[Quintesson]]s and voting in favor of accepting the aliens' offer of an alliance. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3}}
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====Japanese cartoon continuity====
{{note|The events of the Generation 1 cartoon occur in Japanese continuity as detailed above, save for one major difference: the Japanese dub of the cartoon fixes the production error that switched [[FIRRIB|Rumble and Frenzy's color schemes]] by switching the characters' names! Thus, it is the red Rumble who barely appears, and the blue Frenzy, voiced by Ken Shiroyama, who shows up frequently and experiences all the events related above. Japanese continuity proceeds to insert many new storylines and events in, around, before and after the events of the Generation 1 cartoon, as covered below. In the name of consistency with the American cartoon, this article considers the blue robot in these events to be Rumble.}}

=====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic=====
[[Image:Superrobotlifemanga rumble and frenzy.jpg|left|150px|thumb|There, we didn't color them! Problem solved!]]

In the late 1980s, working with Soundwave and his fellow Cassettes, Rumble attacked Bumblebee and the Autobot's human friend [[Kenji]] during their patrol of Tokyo. [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] swooped in to take Kenji to safety, and Bumblebee easily eluded the inept Rumble long enough to execute a [[Bumble Kick]]! against Soundwave. With his chest-port damaged, Soundwave was unable to hide Rumble and the other Cassettes when [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] arrived to back up Bumblebee. They ended up just bouncing off Soundwave's chest in cassette mode. Cliffjumper grabbed them and began tearing out their magnetic tape which, if you think about it, seems kinda horrific. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 2|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #2}}

Rumble eventually recovered. In another scheme, the Decepticons tried to frame the Autobots for attacking Earth by giving the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] fake sigils and sending them on a mayhem spree. Dressed in snazzy robes to hide their identities, Rumble and Frenzy then began fanning the flames by preaching openly against the Autobots in human cities. Their cover was blown, however, when [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] and [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] washed the fake insignia off the Decepticons. Rumble and Frenzy were zapped by [[Eject]] and [[Rewind]], revealing their identities as well. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 7|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #7}}

=====Full Throttle Scramble Power!=====

When [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] arrived to bust up the Decepticons' plan to terrorize the world with their [[Omega Whip]] cannon, Rumble (or Frenzy) was among the robots shown being scattered by the shockwaves created by the landing of the titantic Autobot. {{storylink|Full Throttle Scramble Power!}}

=====''The Stargate Battles''=====
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In the late 1990s, Starscream forged a clandestine alliance with the Prime Minister of [[Japan]], promising that the country would be safe from attack by the Decepticons if they were allowed to freely and harmlessly collect energy within its borders, in secret from the rest of the world. Naturally, however, Starscream had no intention of actually honoring this agreement, and sent Rumble and Frenzy to the bottom of the sub-oceanic [[Pacific Ring of Fire|Japan Trench]], where they used their piledrivers to stimulate the tectonic plates of the trench and cause small earthquakes throughout Japan. As Starscream predicted, the quakes supplied massive amounts of energy for the Decepticons to gather, but were perceived as natural occurrences by the populace. Megatron was not impressed by the scheme, however, suspecting the Autobots would soon realize the truth... and he was, of course, completely right. When Optimus Prime and a team of Autobots arrived to investigate and caught the Decepticons in the act, Megatron had Rumble and Frenzy kick things into overdrive, causing a catastrophic quake that devastated Tokyo and covered the Decepticons' escape. The quake was so powerful that it actually threatened to sink the entire island of Japan, but before that could come to pass, Hound confronted Rumble and Frenzy and overpowered them by confusing them with his holograms. {{storylink|Activation}}
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=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====

:''Voice actor:'' [[Hirohiko Kakegawa]]

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In the year 2011, when Soundwave was destroyed in battle with Blaster, Rumble and all the other cassettes gathered on [[Chaar]] to watch as the Decepticon [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] leader [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] used the super-technology of the planet [[Master (planet)|Master]] to resurrect their master as Soundblaster. The cassette team then helped to defend Soundblaster when he was focused on using a sonic control to remotely direct the actions of the Decepticons' new [[Madmachine]], but Blaster—now reborn as Twincast—was able to get past them and stop his rival. {{storylink|The Great Cassette Operation}}

Alongside Ravage, Ratbat and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], Rumble was able to sneak into the lower levels of the Autobot-controlled Cybertron, and enter Vector Sigma's chamber, where he observed that the computer was in the process of a developing a new alloy named [[cybertonuron]]. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}}

{{note|Prepare for a headache on this one. The robot who enters Vector Sigma's chamber is the blue robot, hence, we're calling him Rumble here. However, in Japan, being blue means he should be Frenzy...but the credits of the episode ''actually list him as Rumble''. So whether or not the credits are wrong and this is Frenzy, or if the coloring is wrong and he should be Rumble, is, at this point, genuinely impossible to tell. So we're calling a duck a duck!}}

[[Image:Hm_ep15_rumble_or_frenzy.jpg|right|thumb|220px|Maybe he's just a miscolored [[Enemy]].]]

Some time later, either Rumble or Frenzy was dispatched by Soundblaster to deal with Blaster's cassettes when the Autobot communicator came to Chaar to spy on the unveiling of Scorponok's [[Transtector]]. {{storylink|Explosion on Mars!! MegaZarak Appears}}

{{note|We can't tell if it's Rumble or Frenzy because... well, dude, look at the picture.}}

The arrival of Scorponok's new information officer, [[Punch (G1)|Counterpunch]], put Soundblaster in a bad mood, as he had the ability to dredge up Autobot info that even Soundblaster and his expert team of spies could not. They had no idea, of course, that this was because Counterpunch was actually the undercover Autobot double agent Punch, but nonetheless, Rumble and the other tapes consoled their boss and promised to try harder. {{storylink|Return of the Immortal Emperor}}

While on the planets of [[Twin Star]], Soundblaster deployed Rumble and Frenzy to search for the energy supposedly hidden somewhere on the planet. {{storylink|Battle for Defense of the False Planet}} Some time later, Rumble and the rest of Soundblaster's cassettes were seen standing guard outside the subterranean cavern on Master in which Scorponok was constructing his [[Zarak Shield]]. {{storylink|Operation: Destroy the Decepticons}}

=====''The Headmasters'' comic=====
When the Decepticons were finally forced off Earth, Soundblaster and his cassettes stayed behind on the planet to gather information. After a run in with [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]], Soundblaster was hurled over the horizon by the Autobot Headmaster's "Master Chrome Hurricane-Throw to the End of Hell" attack. Rumble and Frenzy attempted to wake their boss up as [[Sixshot]] approached, warning him that he was going to get in trouble. {{storylink|The Headmasters issue 8|The Headmasters #8}}

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
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Rumble, under his commanding officer Soundwave, was one of the earliest recruits Megatron made for his Decepticon faction millions of years ago. Rumble and his brother Frenzy remained loyal to the primary Decepticon faction under Shockwave's command during the [[War Within: The Dark Ages|Dark Ages]], and remained part of the Decepticon hierarchy after Megatron returned from [[Quintessa]] with his new [[Aerospace Extermination Squadron]]. The punk brothers were seen naming off Autobot casualties for the fun of it after the Age of Internment began. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath issue 3|The Age of Wrath #3}}

Four million years ago, Rumble was part of the crew of the ''Nemesis'' which crashed to Earth alongside the Autobots and the Ark. He was revived in 1984 along with the other Transformers for roughly a decade of renewed warfare, before the Autobots ultimately defeated the Decepticons and rendered them inoperative. Their triumphant return to Cybertron aboard the [[Ark II]] was sabotaged, however, and the Transformers were all believed destroyed in the resulting explosion. Instead, many of them were recovered by the mercenary named [[Lazarus]], who made efforts to reprogram the Cybertronians into weapons for his disposal. Megatron managed to override Lazarus's control, though, and freed his fellow Decepticons. {{storylink|Prime Directive}}

{{note|In [[Prime Directive issue 2|''Prime Directive'' #2]], the blue robot with the Rumble/Frenzy bodyform was among those under the control of Lazarus who attacked the [[Smitco Oil Refinery]], and was seen using Rumble's characteristic piledrivers. It was generally assumed by readers at the time that this was intended to be Rumble in his cartoon color scheme (and indeed, he probably ''was'' scripted and drawn as Rumble) but subsequent Dreamwave fiction established that in this world, as in most others, Rumble is the red one. So whether this is Frenzy using piledrivers or an incorrectly-colored Rumble is up to the reader to decide.}}

''Rumble stayed out of Decepticon politics during the [[Keeper (species)|Keepers]]' interaction with the Transformers on Earth. He chose to work with Starscream in [[Las Vegas]] after Megatron's disappearance, and even remained in Vegas after Megatron returned and splintered the Decepticon army, but otherwise did little of note. {{storylink|Annihilation}}''

When [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] arrived from Cybertron, he managed to defeat Megatron and assume control of the Decepticons in the name of the greater Unified Cybertronian government. Rumble and Frenzy were placed in charge of guarding the deactivated Megatron on the flight back to Cybertron, but were tossed aside by Starscream so that he could jettison Megatron into space. {{storylink|New World Order}} Later, Shockwave commissioned them to create a distraction that would keep [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] from fully realizing his plans, by unleashing the crazed [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] from a [[Detention Banks|detention facility]]. Once again, Starscream intervened on their mission, retrieving five additional prisoners, the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]], for his own purposes. {{storylink|Cold War}}

As Shockwave's government began to collapse around him, Starscream convinced his fellow comrades from Earth to follow him back to that planet and raid it for energon. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}} However, his initial "battle plan" against the Autobots led to more than half his forces being captured, including Rumble and Frenzy. After the Autobots were forced into a deal with Starscream due to the threat of [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]], Rumble and the other Decepticon captives were released, but charged to only 50% power. {{storylink|Black Sunshine}} At this point, Soundwave took steps to reunite the Decepticons with their true leader, Megatron, and shortly thereafter Megatron and the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] arrived on Earth and overthrew Starscream's command. {{storylink|The Route of All Evil}}

===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===
[[Image:Gijoevstfrumblechases.jpg|left|120px|thumb|]]Rumble was one of the many Transformers recovered from the crashed [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] by [[Cobra]]. He was repaired and retrofitted by [[Doctor Mindbender]], who proudly displayed him, Soundwave, and his fellow Mini-Cassettes to [[Destro]]. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #2}} Rumble was released by Soundwave, along with [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], and [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], during an attack on the [[SPS Research Facility|SPS Center]]. Rumble evaded the first wave of [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] defenders and used his piledrivers to damage the target building. Scaling the building, he menaced [[Flash (G.I. Joe)|Flash]] and [[Sci-Fi]] until [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] punched his lights out and then threw a missile at him. He was then captured by G.I. Joe. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 3|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #3}}

Apparently having escaped somehow, Rumble was later seen back on [[Cobra Island]] when [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] undid Cobra's reprogramming of the Transformers. He happily chased some of his former captors, Destro and [[Zartan]], across the island until the [[Baroness]] stepped on him with a [[S.N.A.K.E.]] {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 4|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #4}}
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===''Transformers/G.I. Joe''===
Rumble was among the Decepticons who were accidentally awakened by [[Cobra]] in the late 1930s. Together, the Decepticons and Cobra conquered the [[Fera Islands]], but came under attack from the Autobots and [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]]. Rumble was among the soldiers sent to defend the [[Terrordrome]], using his small stature to disguise himself as a human trooper. After making his way close to the enemy, he used his piledrivers to crack open the ground and bury the Autobot tanks. {{storylink|Trial by Fire (issue)|Trial by Fire}} While Rumble was busy taunting [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] for being friends with "meat", [[Scarlett]] jumped above him using [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and destroyed him by tossing a hand grenade in his face. {{storylink|Wolves}}

===''Transformers Legends'' anthology===
Rumble was hanging out with Megatron when Soundwave stopped by with the news that Starscream was apparently getting cozy with the Autobots. Megatron sent Rumble to gather up the Decepticons in the base for an attack to retrieve their wayward comrade, however the attack party was later repelled by the Autobots. {{storylink|Redemption Center}}

===IDW comics continuity===
Rumble and Frenzy started out as "industrial equipment" at [[Mining Outpost C-12]], until the [[Senate]] shut down the site in favor of automating the work involved. Once a furious Megatron kicked off a riot, Rumble and Frenzy joined in the fighting and were soon taken prisoner, destined for "[[The Rig]]" penal facility. They managed to break free aboard [[Longshot|their prison transport]], however, and took control of it with Megatron's help. The renegade miners then fled to [[Kaon]], where they got lost in the underground fighting tournaments that ran rampant throughout that city-state. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 1}}

As time passed, Megatron rose high in the ranks of the gladiators, and he brought up Rumble and Frenzy with him. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 2}} And when Megatron's passions turned from arena combat to outright insurrection, so did theirs. When Megatron crafted his plan for infiltrating and destroying the Senate, Rumble and his brother underwent alterations so that they could hide inside Soundwave's chest compartment, although neither of them were particularly enthusiastic about it. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3}} Thanks to this subterfuge, the Senate was annihilated and the Security Services of Kaon split open from the inside. Rumble bore witness as Megatron personally beat down and humiliated the Autobot leader, [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4}}

Rumble eventually came to Earth, where he helped defeat the local Autobot forces and exile them to Cybertron. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7}} After this, he was involved in the Decepticon full-frontal offensive on the planet, and the conquest of [[New York City]]. After the siege was over, however, the lack of organized resistance left Rumble with little to do. He and [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] took to the streets, blowing up stray abandoned vehicles that happened to remind him of [[Bumblebee (G1)|certain people]]. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 3}}

While on a patrol in New York City, he ran afoul of [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Cmdr. Spike Witwicky]] and three other survivors. Rumble went after Spike and nearly succeeded in knocking him off his motorcycle, but one of the survivors, [[Charles (G1)|Charles]], seeking revenge for his son's death at the hands of Rumble, fired off a shot from a rocket launcher that hit Rumble point blank in the face, downing him instantly. Sensing something wrong, Soundwave found Rumble, picked up his damaged body, and went into a rage in which he lost control of his communications-blocking effect. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 9}} He was apparently repaired and sided with Starscream during his coup. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 10}} When the Autobots returned from their exile, Rumble fought against them alongside [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] and [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]]. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 11}} However, Megatron was defeated, and the Decepticons were forced to flee the planet aboard [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]. Along with Soundwave and the other cassettes, Rumble spent the trip looking after the severely injured Megatron. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 13|Uneasy Lies the Head}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
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* '''Ravage''' / '''Rumble''' (Cassette 2-pack, 1984/1985/1986)
**''Accessories:'' Left & right "Thruster Guns"

: Rumble was part of the first wave of ''Transformers'' toys released in 1984. Originally a ''[[Micro Change]]'' Microcassette Robo Micross, he transforms into a microcassette that fits into the tape deck compartment of the original [[Soundwave (G1)#Toys|Soundwave]] and [[Blaster (G1)#Toys|Blaster]] toys. In [[Hasbro]] markets, Rumble was only available in a two-pack with [[Ravage (G1)#Toys|Ravage]].

: The 1984 release of the toy has a foil Decepticon symbol decal on Rumble's robot-mode tummy. The 1985 release drops this decal in favor of a [[rubsign]] under the cassette-mode's tape-window. The 1986 release switches out his metal feet for plastic feet.

: This mold was also used to make [[Frenzy (G1)#Toys|Frenzy]], and was used as the basis for [[Enemy]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Rumble/rumble.htm More information on Rumble at TFU.info]''

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* '''Soundwave''' (Decepticon, 1985/1986)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''17'''
**''Accessories:'' Left & right "Thruster Guns"

: In Japan, Rumble was originally only available packaged with the much-more-accessory-laden-than-the-Hasbro-version Soundwave. All versions of this toy have a rubsign.

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* '''Cassette Big Mission 3''' (2009)
**''Encore number'': '''19'''
**''Accessories:'' Left & right "Thruster Guns"

: Rumble was reissued for the first time in over 20 years, along with [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], [[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]] and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], as part of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s [[Encore]] line. This toy at the very least features several restored parts (including the head and weapons) if not an entirely new mold based off of the original version. This theory is supported by the copyright Tomy 2009 on the inside of the leg rather than the Hasbro or Takara copyrights, and the different look of the headsculpt. This version of Rumble does not feature any of the cassette mode stickers or those originally on his legs. Most of the cassette details are now painted instead (but not those that end up on his arms in robot mode). The lower leg details are painted as well (but not the upper legs - that detail remains absent). His faction symbols remain stickers.

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===The Headmasters===
* '''Rumble''' (Cassettetron, 1987)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-102'''
**''Accessories:'' Left & right "Thruster Guns"

: Rumble was finally released on his own in Japan during ''[[The Headmasters (toyline)|The Headmasters]]'', in an individual box. Contrary to popular belief, the Cassettes released this way did ''not'' include extra tape cases.

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===Generation 2===
[[Image:G2RumbleProStock.jpg|thumb|300px|Rumble is red, Rumble is blue. What?]]
* "'''Rumble'''" (Go-Bot, <strike>1995</strike>)
**''Accessories'': Rifle

: Part of the canceled fourth wave of ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bots]], Rumble would have been a race car with a pizza-oriented sponsor ("Vinny's Pizza") and an engine-oriented sponsor ("Jerry's Motors"). He would have transformed into a modified Chevrolet Camaro with exposed engine block. He has through-axle construction to allow for super-fast rolling in car mode. Like his fellow "new"-mold teammates, his rifle stores under his car mode.

: Although he was never officially named in any known documents, his name is written on the front bumper. A very small handful of finished samples have made their way to the secondary market, where they demand some big bucks.

:This mold was redecoed into ''[[Robots in Disguise (toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Side Swipe (RID)|Side Swipe]] and ''[[Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Bluestreak|Silverstreak]].

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===Alternators===
[[Image:AltRumble.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Nothing says "rebellious" like a Honda Civic!]]
* '''Rumble''' (Alternator, 2006)
**''Alternator ID number'': '''24''' (misprint, should be 25)
**''Accessories'': Left & right blasters

: For ''[[Alternators]]'', Rumble transforms into a 1:24-scale licensed 2006 Honda Civic Si, with opening doors, hood, etc. Additionally, instead of traditional hands, Rumble features spring-loaded piledrivers that release from his arms. Accessories include two back-mounted weapons, one of which doubles as his engine in car mode and the other which fits into his trunk.

:Originally intended for normal retail release in the US, he and wave-mate [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] got relegated to being Wal-Mart [[Exclusive|exclusives]], released in late March of 2007. He and Ravage are notable for being the first Decepticon Alternators to be entirely new molds, rather than an Autobot mold reworked to be someone else. They are also notable for being the final ''Alternators'' toys to be sold at retail.

: Rumble's seats are mis-assembled, keeping them from reclining completely in car mode. To fix this, unscrew each seat from the bottom of the car, swap them, and then rescrew.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Decepticon/AltRumble/rumble.htm More information on Alternators Rumble at TFU.info]''

===Universe===
[[Image:Universe2003toy-RumbleBotCon.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Wins award for "Most Expensive to Duplicate at Home."]]
* '''Rumble''' (Basic, 2006)
**''Accessories'': Blade, Cybertron-style Decepticon Cyber Key

: Available only in the customization class at [[BotCon 2006]] (along with [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]]), Rumble is a [[redeco]] of ''[[Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Scrapmetal (race)|Scrapmetal]] (using the [[Cobybot]] alternate head), transforming into a four-legged "spider tank" with top-mounted cannon. Inserting a [[Cyber Planet Key]] into the back end of the cannon swings a removable clear-plastic sawblade-sword from the main chamber of the cannon. In robot mode, the fists can be covered with the tank-mode spikes, or a "pile driver".

: Both Rumble and Inferno were only available as unpainted, unassembled parts still connected to their sprues. The individuals taking the class had to assemble and paint the toy. The following Testors paint colors were used: Burnished Gold, British Gulf Armor, British Crimson, Magical Blue, Armored Steel, Flat Black, Camouflauge Gray, and Medium Gray.

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===Attacktix===
*'''Rumble'''

:The ''[[Attacktix]]'' Rumble playing piece was never released due to the cancellation of the ''Attacktix'' line. A prototype was seen (along with other unreleased ''Transformers'' and ''Star Wars'' ''Attacktix'' playing pieces at the [http://jediinsider.net/g/albums/CIV/Thursday/Hasbro/ATTACKTIX/404.jpg Celebration IV ''Star Wars'' convention.] Rumble was to be a Trooper-type piece worth 20 points, and would've utilized melee attacks using his piledrivers.

:Unhelpfully for the [[FIRRIB]] argument, ''Attacktix'' Rumble was '''blue'''.

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===Music Label===
[[Image:MusicLabel Rumble headphone.JPG|right|300px|thumb|Ready to shake, break, rattle and cause hearing problems by the time you're 40!]]

*'''Frenzy & Rumble Playing Earphones''' (2007)

:Released as part of [[TakaraTomy]]'s [[Music Label]] toyline, Rumble and Frenzy share a fairly simplistic transformation from robots to white, circular, working earphones. Although sold separately, they were designed to go well with the Music Label [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave MP3 player]].

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==Merchandise==
===Robot Heroes===
* '''Arcee vs. Rumble'''

[[Image:Robotheroesrumblearcee.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Red again? I think there's a pattern evolving here...]]
:''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' Rumble is a soft-plastic figurine sculpted in a [[super deformed]] style and with his piledrivers deployed. He has swivel joints in his shoulders and neck, and came in a two-pack with [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]].

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===Transformers - Mini Bust===
[[Image:Rumble statue.jpg|right|150px|thumb|So happy to be Blue.]]
* '''Rumble''' (Diamond Select, 2009)

:Released by Diamond Select Toys in 2009, Rumble was sculpted by [[Mark Wong]] of [[Art Asylum]] and limited to 1000 pieces. He is painted in a <del>accurate</del> blue scheme matching his colors in the Generation 1 cartoon. [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] is seen blazing over his shoulder and decoed in a deeper purple then he is usually depicted in. Rumble is sculpted using his piledrivers and his base has the aftereffects of an earthquake on the left side. A representation of his tape mode is also present on the front of his base.

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==Trivia==
[[Image:Alt-rumble-toyfairuk2.jpg|right|200px|thumb]]
*On the ''Generation 1'' TV series, Rumble was represented with the colors of [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy's]] toy—that is, dark and medium blue, rather than black and red (and vice-versa). This led to some confusion (and later, controversy) amongst fans. (See [[FIRRIB]].)
* In later years, toys sporting the name "Rumble" required an additional "Decepticon" prefix for [[trademark]] reasons, hence making the official name "'''Decepticon Rumble'''".
* Rumble's ''Alternators'' figure was revealed at the UK's Toy Fair. Rather than the figure itself, it was surprisingly an image of concept art for a design that was ultimately never used.
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==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Rumble/rumble.htm Rumble at TFU.info]
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Rumble Rumble's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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