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2007-08-03T17:27:15Z

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That IP address was me. I figured since you have this entry just ''dripping'' with snark including "Bayformers", it should include the inexplicable fan belief that early G1 had more realistic representations of extraterrestrial robots, even though the toy engineers made them to look like the human-built piloted mecha they were in their original toy lines. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 18:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:Oooh. Your edit didn't say anything about extraterrestrials, so, I totally didn't know where you were going. I personally prefer the line more brief, without bringing that part in, but, I don't feel real strongly about it. If you put it back in I might edit the phrasing to make it more to my liking, though. :) --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 19:07, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I ''know'' that someone from Hasbro (Whatshername, the exec who used to work for Power Rangers?) mentioned at some point that they estimate that X% of Transformers toys are bought by adult collectors- and I ''think'' it was 20. That should probably be in here.

I admit, I find the tone of this article unnecessarily harsh. I'd like to see it either moderated, or to have [[Fans]] and [[Fandom]] made two separate articles, with most of the negative aspects assigned to fandom. (Which I think is a fair division of blame- you still hear stories of hardcore transfans who run into the occasional hardcore solo-fan who has no clue about the 'net, conventions etc. The ''really'' nasty negative aspects of fans are almost all ''group behaviors'' that feed on themselves and doesn't exist in individuals if a fan is removed from fandom.)

...oh my god, I just articulated a [[Wikipedia:Romanticism|romantacist]] belief in the fundamental goodness of humanity and the corrupting influence of society on individuals. '''KILL ME NOW! DO IT BEFORE I SPREAD PEACE AND LOVE ALL OVER THE WIKI!''' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

::::Was that Michelle Fields? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:44, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

::I also greatly dislike the tone of this article. It gives the impression that we here at this Wiki somehow stand separate and apart from the "fandom" which it sarcastically ridicules. Were it up to me, everything on this page but the short History section would be removed. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

:I find this article totally hilarious and that it contains quite a lot of truths. {{unsigned|210.49.121.202}}

I'm okay with the link. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:36, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I admit to being a little surprised at the negative reactions, as this is all stuff that's already written in various places on this wiki. Still, I recognize that if my only supporter is an anonymous string of numbers, I apparently just have a weird opinion on it. I just talked to Walky about it and he said the sarcastic "accomplishments"list could maybe be preserved if it were just a small part of a large, otherwise focusing-on-the-positive article. That sounds okay to me... I'd kind of like to keep at least ''some'' of the list in there, but, again, I seemingly have no perception of how vicious what I wrote is, so maybe it should be totally scrapped. For now I'll call shenanigans on myself while we decide what to do. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:Keep it. I read some seriously ridiculous crap in the past week that makes this page DESERVE existence. Oh yeah, and it needs a mention of terrible fanfiction in there, since nothing is free from terrible fanfiction.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 05:35, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:: This article is just full of win. Reading it totally made my day. I say keep it. [[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:31, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

:I don't have a problem witht he negativity of the article per-se... it just seems kinda ''down'' on fans unless there's some contrasting material to balance it out. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

::Pretty much all of the snark and negativity on display in the current version is depressingly close to the truth, but I for one would certainly like to see it balanced out with stuff about the more positive aspects of TF fandom. --[[User:TVsGrady|TVsGrady]] 00:17, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

::It currently bears an uncanny resemblence to Encyclopedia Dramatica. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 08:02, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

It has been my observation that other fandoms, particularly the GI Joe fandom (probably owing to TF's close relationship with Joe), think TF fans are absolutely fucking insane. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:48, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
:The Sonic The Hedgehog fandom makes Transformers, G. I. Joe or basically anyone else look like rank amateurs in the insanity department. I am dead serious as hilarious as it might sound. Death threats and talk of character rape is how you say "hello" over there.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 04:52, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
I am in favor of the article staying in its present state, as a reminder against such foolish behavior. It made my day reading the Fandom section, and under the management's rule that "THE FUNNY STAYS.", it should be here. [[User:Ronimus Prime|Ronimus Prime]] 03:51, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I say keep it. It reminds fans not to take themselves too seriously. In fact, maybe even add a note on the whole "Who is Cyclonus" thing. [[User:67.160.13.149|67.160.13.149]] 22:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

This whole page sounds like another one of Walky's idiotic rants against the fandom. Snore. Why don't people make fun of the anti-fans like Walky more often, when the things they say and do are far more ridiculous as they can't be defended by "Well, he's a crazy fan"?<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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