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		<title>Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;173.73.133.158: /* Overview */&lt;/p&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Generation 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is a series published by [[Marvel Comics]] from 1993 to 1994, in support of the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]&#039;&#039; [[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|toyline]] re-launch. Set in [[Marvel Comics continuity|the same continuity]] as the original [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|G1 book]], it directly continues that book&#039;s story, introducing a new generation of [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronians]] that threaten the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s alike.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{chapters|title=&#039;&#039;G.I. Joe&#039;&#039; issues:|prev=The Transformers (Marvel comic)|content=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Unfoldings!|#138]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Realignments|#139]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Goin&#039; South|#140]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sucker Punch|#141]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Final Transformations|#142]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{chapters|title=&#039;&#039;Transformers: Generation 2&#039;&#039; issues:|content=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ghosts|#0]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[War Without End!|#1]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[All or Nothing!|#2]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Primal Fear!|#3]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Devices and Desires! (Marvel)|#4]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Power and the Glory|#5]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Gathering Darkness|#6]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[New Dawn|#7]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Escalation!|#8]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Swarm (issue)|#9]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Total War!|#10]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dark Shadows!|#11]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[A Rage in Heaven!|#12]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
When [[Hasbro]] brought back the [[The Transformers (toyline)|Transformers]] toy line in 1993, they turned to [[Marvel Comics]] to once again produce a comic tie-in. This time, Marvel chose to build interest in the book by introducing the new storyline as part of its existing [[G.I. Joe (comic)|&#039;&#039;G.I. Joe&#039;&#039; comic]]. Over the course of 5 issues, [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]], last seen crashing into [[Earth]] in issue #78 of the original U.S. series, returned, and was upgraded into his &amp;quot;G2&amp;quot; form, a tank, by [[Cobra]]. Several [[Autobot]]s were sent to deal with the returned [[Decepticon]] leader, which led into the ongoing &#039;&#039;Transformers: Generation 2&#039;&#039; series.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elsewhere, an entirely separate race of [[Transformer]]s, descended from the Decepticons, who prefer to think of themselves as [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronians]], are discovered in the far reaches of known space. The Autobots find themselves attempting to deal with this new threat, while also struggling to protect the [[Earth]] from the danger posed by the &amp;quot;original&amp;quot; Decepticons. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Amidst these threats, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] has troubling premonitions that hint at the coming of yet another menace. Autobots and Decepticons must unite against the Cybertronians and their deadly off-shoot, the [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* The series made a very deliberate change of direction for the franchise, bringing it into the 1990s with &#039;&#039;extreme&#039;&#039; violence and carnage, huge guns, gritty plot lines, and a fair amount of gratuitous character death.&lt;br /&gt;
* This series came about at the time of great volatility in the comics industry, and was only guaranteed a 12-issue run. It was canceled after the series did not sell as well as expected, but was allowed to finish out the promised 12 issues. Amusingly enough, those low numbers that &#039;&#039;Generation 2&#039;&#039; sold back then would constitute a mega-blockbuster hit nowadays.&lt;br /&gt;
* Furman named the character [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] (as in &amp;quot;Gee, axe us!&amp;quot;) in &amp;quot;anticipation&amp;quot; of Marvel&#039;s unrealistic goals for the book leading to an almost assured cancellation.&lt;br /&gt;
* As with many Transformers stories, [[human|humans]] were targeted during the course of the G2 comic — first by the Decepticons, then the Cybertronian Empire, then the Swarm — culminating in the bombardment of [[San Francisco]]. &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; co-story-editor [[Larry DiTillio]] would later [[pseudocanon|prefer to envision]] the end of this series as actually having caused the &#039;&#039;total extinction&#039;&#039; of the human species. DiTillio in turn developed his own background for the [[Vok]] as being descendants of the Swarm, now attempting to make amends for wiping out humankind.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Creative team==&lt;br /&gt;
The series was written by [[Simon Furman]], picking up where he&#039;d left off at the end of the G1 book. [[Derek Yaniger]] initially did the pencils, but as he reportedly missed deadlines, [[Manny Galan]] picked up much of his slack. Yaniger did do most of the covers however.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Generation 2 (Marvel)}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 2 comic series]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=G.I._Joe_and_the_Transformers_(comic)&amp;diff=667203</id>
		<title>G.I. Joe and the Transformers (comic)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;173.73.133.158: /* Overview */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig2|the 1986 crossover by Marvel Comics|other stories with G.I. Joe|G.I. Joe crossovers}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Trans-joe tpb.jpg|thumb|right|300px|TPB Cover in B&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;G.I. Joe and the Transformers&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is a four-issue limited series produced by [[Marvel Comics]] in 1986.  Set in the contemporary [[Marvel Comics continuity|&#039;&#039;Generation 1&#039;&#039; continuity]], it follows the [[Transformer]]s, [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]], and [[Cobra]] as they struggle for control of [[Power Station Alpha]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{chapters|title=G.I. Joe and the Transformers issues:|content=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blood on the Tracks|#1]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Power Struggle|#2]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ashes, Ashes...|#3]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[...All Fall Down!|#4]] &lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
The crossover begins around issue #23 of the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel &#039;&#039;Generation 1&#039;&#039; series]] and wraps up around issue #27.  Scant reference is made to it by the main series, and apart from [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] becoming [[Goldbug (G1)|Goldbug]] and the disappearance of [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], its influence is minimal.  It was entirely ignored in the pages of the &#039;&#039;G.I. Joe&#039;&#039; comic at the time, such that it was not even mentioned in [http://www.yojoe.com/comics/yb/yb3.shtml Yearbook #3, which covered the events of the 1986 series,] or [http://www.yojoe.com/comics/yb/yb4.shtml Yearbook #4, which recounted the issues from 1987].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The story is centered around Power Station Alpha, a mobile nuclear power plant that can beam energy across the globe.  The Decepticons and Cobra both want it, and briefly ally themselves to steal it from the [[United States]]... until Cobra&#039;s agents discover that [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] has plans for the station that will bring about the destruction of the [[Earth]] itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The series was published at a time of considerable upheaval within the main Transformers book.  During the course of the crossover, both [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] are killed off, which makes for a somewhat disjointed story.  On the G.I. Joe side, [[Serpentor]] replaces [[Cobra Commander]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Creative Team==&lt;br /&gt;
The series was written by [[Michael Higgins]]. Art is by [[Herb Trimpe]] and [[Vince Colletta]]. Regular Transformers colorist [[Nelson Yomtov|Nel Yomtov]] also worked on the series.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==UK (non) printing==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The mini-series is the only story from the Marvel US G1 cycle that was not immediately printed by the UK comic. Why this was is unclear, although as Marvel UK had only just acquired the licence to print &#039;&#039;[[Action Force (comic)|Action Force]]&#039;&#039; (the UK counterpart to G.I. Joe) and their reprints were some way behind the events in this story, it&#039;s possible the crossover was considered to be too confusing. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The changes made by the series were substituted or ignored. [[Bumblebee (G1)#Conflicting Goldbug origins|An alternative origin for Goldbug]] would appear in &amp;quot;[[Wanted: Galvatron — Dead or Alive!]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[Hunters]]&amp;quot;. Dirge would appear alive in the later UK story &amp;quot;[[Salvage!]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Marvel UK would later run their own &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039;/&#039;&#039;Action Force&#039;&#039; crossover in &amp;quot;[[Ancient Relics!]]&amp;quot; in &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; #125 and &#039;&#039;Action Force&#039;&#039; #24-27.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In 1990 problems with publication deadlines resulted in the latest US comic stories not yet being available for the UK comic. This problem had occurred twice already in the last year and the previous solution of printing reprints of past UK stories had resulted in many letters of protest. So instead the decision was taken to run the &#039;&#039;G.I. Joe and the Transformers&#039;&#039; series, although modifying the series title to &#039;&#039;Transformers and G.I. Joe the Action Force&#039;&#039;, in order to create a much larger gap between the US and UK printings. The series appeared in issues #265-281.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No attempt was made to incorporate the series into the UK continuity. Instead the story was presented from the outset as a US tale that included their origin of Goldbug.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:StarscreamSkystriker.jpg|right|thumb|250px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
25 years after the publication of &#039;&#039;G.I Joe and the Transformers,&#039;&#039; [[Hasbro]] commemorated the series — and answered the wishes of many [[Fandom|fans]] — by releasing the first-ever toy to share the brands of both properties:  a 2011-model G.I. Joe [[Skystriker]] meant to be an incarnation of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and including [[Cobra Commander]] with a &amp;quot;human-scaled&amp;quot; [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] pistol.  The package logo is a perfect match for the original &#039;&#039;G.I. Joe and the Transformers&#039;&#039; motif, and even includes a number 5 to imply a continuation of the storyline after the series had ended.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Collections==&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;G.I. Joe and the Transformers&#039;&#039; TPB &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(February 1993) (ISBN 0-87135-973-1)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 1 comic series]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=G.I._Joe_and_the_Transformers_(comic)&amp;diff=667202</id>
		<title>G.I. Joe and the Transformers (comic)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=G.I._Joe_and_the_Transformers_(comic)&amp;diff=667202"/>
		<updated>2011-12-01T10:00:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;173.73.133.158: /* Overview */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{disambig2|the 1986 crossover by Marvel Comics|other stories with G.I. Joe|G.I. Joe crossovers}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Trans-joe tpb.jpg|thumb|right|300px|TPB Cover in B&amp;amp;W]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;G.I. Joe and the Transformers&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is a four-issue limited series produced by [[Marvel Comics]] in 1986.  Set in the contemporary [[Marvel Comics continuity|&#039;&#039;Generation 1&#039;&#039; continuity]], it follows the [[Transformer]]s, [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]], and [[Cobra]] as they struggle for control of [[Power Station Alpha]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{chapters|title=G.I. Joe and the Transformers issues:|content=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blood on the Tracks|#1]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Power Struggle|#2]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ashes, Ashes...|#3]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[...All Fall Down!|#4]] &lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
The crossover begins around issue #23 of the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel &#039;&#039;Generation 1&#039;&#039; series]] and wraps up around issue #27.  Scant reference is made to it by the main series, and apart from [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] becoming [[Goldbug (G1)|Goldbug]] and the disappearance of [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], its influence is minimal.  It was entirely ignored in the pages of the &#039;&#039;G.I. Joe&#039;&#039; comic at the time, such that it was not even mentioned in [http://www.yojoe.com/comics/yb/yb3.shtml Yearbook #3, which covered the events of the 1986 series,] or [http://www.yojoe.com/comics/yb/yb4.shtml Yearbook #4, which recounted the issues from 1987].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The story is centered around Power Station Alpha, a mobile nuclear power plant that can beam energy across the globe.  The Decepticons and Cobra both want it, and briefly ally themselves to steal it from the [[United States]]... until Cobra&#039;s agents discover that [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] has plans for the station that will bring about the destruction of the Earth itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The series was published at a time of considerable upheaval within the main Transformers book.  During the course of the crossover, both [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] are killed off, which makes for a somewhat disjointed story.  On the G.I. Joe side, Serpentor replaces Cobra Commander.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Creative Team==&lt;br /&gt;
The series was written by [[Michael Higgins]]. Art is by [[Herb Trimpe]] and [[Vince Colletta]]. Regular Transformers colorist [[Nelson Yomtov|Nel Yomtov]] also worked on the series.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==UK (non) printing==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The mini-series is the only story from the Marvel US G1 cycle that was not immediately printed by the UK comic. Why this was is unclear, although as Marvel UK had only just acquired the licence to print &#039;&#039;[[Action Force (comic)|Action Force]]&#039;&#039; (the UK counterpart to G.I. Joe) and their reprints were some way behind the events in this story, it&#039;s possible the crossover was considered to be too confusing. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The changes made by the series were substituted or ignored. [[Bumblebee (G1)#Conflicting Goldbug origins|An alternative origin for Goldbug]] would appear in &amp;quot;[[Wanted: Galvatron — Dead or Alive!]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[Hunters]]&amp;quot;. Dirge would appear alive in the later UK story &amp;quot;[[Salvage!]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Marvel UK would later run their own &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039;/&#039;&#039;Action Force&#039;&#039; crossover in &amp;quot;[[Ancient Relics!]]&amp;quot; in &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; #125 and &#039;&#039;Action Force&#039;&#039; #24-27.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In 1990 problems with publication deadlines resulted in the latest US comic stories not yet being available for the UK comic. This problem had occurred twice already in the last year and the previous solution of printing reprints of past UK stories had resulted in many letters of protest. So instead the decision was taken to run the &#039;&#039;G.I. Joe and the Transformers&#039;&#039; series, although modifying the series title to &#039;&#039;Transformers and G.I. Joe the Action Force&#039;&#039;, in order to create a much larger gap between the US and UK printings. The series appeared in issues #265-281.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No attempt was made to incorporate the series into the UK continuity. Instead the story was presented from the outset as a US tale that included their origin of Goldbug.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:StarscreamSkystriker.jpg|right|thumb|250px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
25 years after the publication of &#039;&#039;G.I Joe and the Transformers,&#039;&#039; [[Hasbro]] commemorated the series — and answered the wishes of many [[Fandom|fans]] — by releasing the first-ever toy to share the brands of both properties:  a 2011-model G.I. Joe [[Skystriker]] meant to be an incarnation of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and including [[Cobra Commander]] with a &amp;quot;human-scaled&amp;quot; [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] pistol.  The package logo is a perfect match for the original &#039;&#039;G.I. Joe and the Transformers&#039;&#039; motif, and even includes a number 5 to imply a continuation of the storyline after the series had ended.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Collections==&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;G.I. Joe and the Transformers&#039;&#039; TPB &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(February 1993) (ISBN 0-87135-973-1)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 1 comic series]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>173.73.133.158</name></author>
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