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:''"Marlboor Wheeljack" is an unnamed [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

"'''Marlboor Wheeljack'''" is a huge gladiatorial games fan.

[[Image:Marlboor tww2 v1.jpg|right|216px|thumb|Smoking is good for you, kids!]]

{{note|"Marlboor Wheeljack" is a fan nickname for the 1983 [[Diaclone]] [[retool]] of the [[Wheeljack (G1)|G1 Wheeljack]] toy with a racing deco based on [[wikipedia:Marlboro_(cigarette)|Marlboro cigarettes]], though its stickers instead read 'Marlboor' for [[trademark]] reasons. The toy was never released as a Transformer, but a Decepticon based on the toy has appeared in several comics beginning in 2002.}}

==Fiction==
===Dreamwave comics continuity===
[[Image:Marlboor tww6 v1.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Marlboor Wheeljack frequently has to deal with attacks by anti-smoking activists.]]
Marlboor Wheeljack was one of many Decepticons in the [[Kaon]] gladiator arena to witness [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s execution of the corrupt [[Xeon|Emirate Xeon]], signaling the beginning of their uprising. He was standing right next to a [[jet-helicopter Decepticon]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 2|The War Within #2}}

Marlboor Wheeljack and the jet-helicopter Decepticon were in Iacon when [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]'s botched [[mechaforming]] attempt leveled the city. He and his pal were unprepared when Shockwave ordered troops to fall back to [[Kolkular]] rather than be destroyed. {{storylink|The War Within issue 6|The War Within #6}}

==Notes==
* Though unnamed and indeed nonspeaking in his fictional appearances, "Marlboor Wheeljack" is referred to as such here due to being a cameo appearance of a ''[[Diaclone]]'' variant of the toy that would become [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]. The toy features a retooled head and a different color scheme with "Marlboor" endorsements.
* His deco is specifically based on one of two Series 5 Stratos racing cars produced, the other being the car on which Wheeljack was based, though Marlboor Wheeljack's deco doesn't strive for the same level of accuracy. The original car on which his deco was based no longer exists as it was destroyed in a fire caused by its overheated engine.<ref>[http://www.stratossupersite.com/Group5Stratos.htm Group 5 Stratos history]</ref>
* Marlboor Wheeljack is not the only [[Slicer|Decepticon Wheeljack]] [[Makeshift (Prime)|look-alike]] in the Transformers universe.

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/issue03/Marborojack/index.htm Review of Marlboro Wheeljack on TFU.info]

==References==
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[[Category:Comic-only Transformers]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Decepticons]]

Talk:Darkest Hour (episode)

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192.249.47.177: New page: ==Byline== "Megatron comes up with a complex plan and once it's put together, Optimus is placed in a position where he is forced to make a risky decision that, if not carefully considered,...

==Byline==
"Megatron comes up with a complex plan and once it's put together, Optimus is placed in a position where he is forced to make a risky decision that, if not carefully considered, could have an inescapable effect on the entire Autobot team."

:...can we reword this as something like "Megatron enacts a scheme that forces Optimus to make a decision which could endanger his team"? As it is now...I'm not sure how to define it, but it just doesn't work.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 14:13, 18 October 2012 (EDT)

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==Adding to the Armada cartoon article==

Hello! New guy around here! I would like to add information about Home Video releases of Transformers Armada to its article. As I have no authorization to add to it, here is the information I can provide:

- Home Video Release in Bulgaria:
In Bulgaria "IP Video" released the complete series, spread across 15 volumes, as well as a "Best of" DVD. The DVDs were also distributed with a weekly newspaper upon their intial release. Volumes 1-8 contain 3 episodes each, with volumes 9-15 and the "Best of" DVD containing 4 episodes each.

Transformers: Armada vol.1 - First Encounter
Transformers: Armada vol.2 - Soldier
Transformers: Armada vol.3 - Palace
Transformers: Armada vol.4 - Ruins
Transformers: Armada vol.5 - Swoop
Transformers: Armada vol.6 - Conspiracy
Transformers: Armada vol.7 - Decisive Battle
Transformers: Armada vol.8 - Chase
Transformers: Armada vol.9 - Detection
Transformers: Armada vol.10 - Runaway
Transformers: Armada vol.11 - Rescue
Transformers: Armada vol.12 - Crisis
Transformers: Armada vol.13 - Uprising (The Unicron Battles - part 1)
Transformers: Armada vol.14 - Dash (The Unicron Battles - part 2)
Transformers: Armada vol.15 - Union (The Unicron Battles - part 3)

== TF:Prime jump-fight factoid ==

I've just started to watch Prime, and so far every episode I've seen has had someone do a dramatic jump slowed down jump before landing on someone they are fighting, (and sometimes the camera). It's quirky enough that it's stood out, and I was wondering if it's worth adding to the episode guides? I just wanted to know now because I'm going to be watching the whole of season one over the next few days, and it's easier if I know now than if it's added later. Failing that, is there anything else that people desperatly want added to the Prime episode guides that I should be looking out for? [[User:LiamK|LiamK]] 17:31, 23 January 2012 (EST)
:There is a certain level of ridiculous info you can get away with adding if you're a regular contributor doing serious and consistent work on the pages, and you handle it with sufficient comedic value. Ref: [[Enter the Nightbird|Brawn vs. Soundwave]], [[Countdown to Extinction (episode)|What Makes Starscream the Leader?]], etc. This could conceivably qualify as well, but approach with caution. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:22, 23 January 2012 (EST)
::Fair enough. It wasn't just going to be an adding silly jokes because oh ha ha I think I'm hilarious. I was going to add anything missing to the relevent pages as well. It's just that 5 episodes in, we've had at least 4 dramatic jumps into the camera, one dramatic jump away from the camera, and several semi-dramatic jumps off to the side. It's hilarious when characters like Bulkhead are apparently able to jump 500 feet into the air. If Springer ever shows up in this continuity family, he's gonna reach orbit.[[User:LiamK|LiamK]] 19:59, 25 January 2012 (EST)

== Expandible voice actor lists ==

There's been some noise about some of the voice actor lists getting too long and the need for a way to have them hidden unless the user expands them. I've done some test code which is [http://www.aldenbates.com/vatest.html currently hosted externally] but is easily converted into something that will work on the wiki. Currently tested on Firefox 9 and 10, Internet Explorer 6 and 8, Chrome 16, and Opera 11. Feedback, anyone? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:41, 31 January 2012 (EST)
:Although I was expecting a show/hide like how Wikipedia does its navigation templates, I don't mind this. Still needs a "hide" option, if that's possible. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:46, 31 January 2012 (EST)
::I've added in a hide option. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:21, 1 February 2012 (EST)
:::If you set up a <nowiki>{{voiceactors}}</nowiki> template it'd be easy to hide the 'extended' cast names and have them show up automatically if you mouse over. '''<tt><nowiki>{{voiceactors|DEFAULT-TO-VISIBLE|DEFAULT-TO-INVISIBLE}}</nowiki></tt>'''
:::It wouldn't even require Javascript, it could be pure CSS. Simpler is better, IMO. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:26, 1 February 2012 (EST)
::::I kinda dislike the idea of it opening on mouse-over, because it can have unexpected effects on the layout of the rest of the page if you're not paying attention to where you're moving your mouse pointer. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:32, 7 February 2012 (EST)
:::::I dislike mouse-over anything. Hide/show is a better interface. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:48, 7 February 2012 (EST)
::::::Add a third dislike vote for mouse-over. If we do this which (if any) voice actors should be visible without clicking? Only the primary English performer? All English performers? All English and Japanese? None? I vote for none. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 19:40, 7 February 2012 (EST)
:::::::I vote for whatever hides the German voice actors. I'd put the English and Japanese actors on a higher tier of importance, but I'm not opposed to hiding them. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:48, 7 February 2012 (EST)
:::::::I think English and Japanese should always be shown, as they are the two biggest uh... markets? Whatever. Hide everything else, and DEFINITELY make the reveal a deliberate CLICK, not a mouseover. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:56, 7 February 2012 (EST)
Can we have this template now? I think everybody agrees that the extraneous VAs should be hidden. If people want to hide English and Japanese VAs, then that can be further discussed. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:48, 14 February 2012 (EST)

:[[Template:va]] (Should it be vas?)
:CSS entties which need to be added to the master file are as follows:
.tt1-voiceactorlist .tt1-extraneousFuckers{
display:none;
}
.tt1-voiceactorlist:hover .tt1-extraneousFuckers{
display:inline;
font-size:smaller;
}
.tt1-voiceactorlist.tt1-more:after{
content: "more";
padding-left:.5em;
font-size:smaller;
color:#999999;
}
.tt1-voiceactorlist:hover.tt1-more:after{
content: none;
}

:Styles are visible now if you've got [[User:Derik/kired tools|Kired Tools]] installed. Alternately you can paste the above into [[Special:Mypage/monacobook.css|your css file]] to get a look at it in action.

:If you want to make it Javascript that's beyond my remit, talk to one of the tech-guys. (Also I think it's a bad idea, but I'm against modifying the DOP for presentational purposes when there's already a markup language intended to control presentation: CSS. The wiki is currently Javascript 'light', I prefer to keep it that way.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:21, 14 February 2012 (EST)
::Why does it say "hiding the non English/Japanese voiceactors unless the user chooses to mouse over the list", I thought we had decided to make it use a click? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:19, 14 February 2012 (EST)
::# I don't have the authority or access to implement that.
::# I think it's a terrible idea.
:::By all means, feel free to install the CSS styles (some CSS styles will be required regardless) and see what you think of this implementation.
:::The underlying HTML will be the same for a Javascript implementation anyway. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:13, 14 February 2012 (EST)
So, er, did we come to a decision on either of these methods? I have to admit I kinda forgot about it until now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:13, 5 March 2012 (EST)
:I think consensus is to use clicks, not mouse-over, despite Derik's protests. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 04:13, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

== Facebook chat ==

Did the wiki have anyone at the TF Prime Facebook chat? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:38, 6 February 2012 (EST)

==Moving (Prime)/(WFC)/(RB)/(FOC) to (Aligned)==
Considering that characters are part of the Aligned continuity family, like how [[Megatron (Animated)]] belong to the Animated continuity family and [[Megatron (G1)]] belongs to the Generation 1 continuity family.
:No, that's not how we do things. Disambiguations are made by franchise of origin, hence why it's [[Megatron (G1)]], but [[Terrorsaur (BW)]] rather than Terrorsaur (G1), or why it's [[Ironhide (Energon)]] rather than Ironhide (UT). This has been discussed ad infinitum but the consensus remains the same. The only exception has been that characters who debuted in WFC but also appear in Prime get (Prime) because of the slight iffyness of the Aligned family. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:26, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
::(Edit conflict'd by Detour) I don't think we have an especially good, logical reason for why we do that with Aligned characters, other than that it simply feels very "wrong" to label a character with a prominent, regular fictional appearance in the ''Prime'' cartoon with a disambig based on their cameo appearance in a video game tie-in novel. Honestly, given that odd nature of the whole "Aligned" idea and the fact we're already breaking our standard with this continuity family's characters ''anyway'', I'm not entirely opposed to just using (Aligned) as a much handier, self-explanatory disambig, but I don't know if anyone would agree. It ''would'' feel odd, for instance, to label the Rescue Bots with that tag. And Bot Shots are a tremendous pain in the arse - it's so annoying when we have to create articles for Aligned Roadbuster and Topspin and whoever when the Bot Shots are just clearly the movieverse characters. The whole Aligned thing can sometimes be a real wiki-headache. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:32, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
:::Why DON'T they just get inserted into the Movie characters sections, then? [This thing applies to a lot of Hasbro's "fuzzier" lines of late, really - stuff's matched up with what other characters in the line are part of rather than just including them in an existing article for the version they're designed after]. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 10:41, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
::::I think treating Bot Shots as part of Aligned is somewhat dubious. Is there a reason it can't be viewed as using characters from multiple continuity families? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 11:00, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
:::::We already discussed this [[Talk:Bot Shots|here]]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:59, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
::::::We do that so we don't have to pick nits over where the characters belong. Bot Shots Optimus Prime could fit many of his various incarnations. I disagree with renaming them to (Aligned), somewhat because all of the (WFC) guys will eventually be moved to (Prime), anyway. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 05:48, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
But should (Prime)/(WFC)/(RB)/(FOC) be renamed (Aligned) or not?--[[User:Finister2|Finister2]] 05:43, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:No. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:29, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
::Why?--[[User:Finister2|Finister2]] 13:55, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:::It's already been explained why. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:40, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

== Universal, properly-translated names of the Japanese Beast Wars/Beast Machines episodes ==

Okay, this has been bothering me for a while. On each page of the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)#Episodes|Beast Wars]] and [[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)#Episodes|Beast Machines]] episode, the Japanese title of each episode is given an English translation in each page's Foreign Localization section. And on the [[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Geneon]] page, under the sections of its Beast Wars, Beast Wars Metals, and Beast wars Returns releases, the Japanese episode titles are also translated into English. What's bothering me is that certain episodes are given slightly differently-translated English names when comparing those given on the actual episode pages to those given on the Geneon page. Here's a list of each differing episode title. The episode page names are on the left, and the Geneon page names are on the right:
:"The Solitary Warrior Tigatron" vs. "Lonely Warrior Tigatron"
:"Goodbye, Rattle!?" vs. "Goodbye Rattle!?"
:"The Falcon Warrior Airrazor" vs. "Falcon Warrior Airazor"
:"Floating Island Death Match Part 1" vs. "Floating Island Deathmatch Part 1"
:"Floating Island Death Match Part 2" vs. "Floating Island Deathmatch Part 2"
:"The Destrons' Dramatic Finish" vs. "The Destrons Make Drama"
:"Two Dinobots?" vs. "There are 2 Dinobots?"
:"The Ant Warrior from Hell, Inferno" vs. "Inferno, the Ant Warrior from Hell"
:"Revive, Beast Power!" vs. "Resurrected Beast Power"
:"The Immortal Starscream" vs. "Starscream's Invulnerability"
:"Fare Thee Well, Tigatron" vs. "Farewell Tigatron"
:"The Great King of Terror Arrives!" vs. "The King of Terror Arrives!"
:"You're Under Arrest, Meow" vs. "Meyow're Under Arrest"
:"Gro~w Bigger" vs. "Groooww Bigger"
:"I Am Resurrected, Dā" vs. "I am Resurrected!"
:"Blaze, Dragon" vs. "Blazing Dragon"
:"I Hath Returned" vs. "We Have Returned"
:"Resurrection of the Legend" vs. "Rebirth of the Legend"
:"The Dearly Wished Transformation" vs. "The Transformation of a Dear Wish"
:"The Memory of a Friend" vs. "Memory of a Friend"
:"Mission of the Stars" vs. "Message of the Stars"
:"The Moment of Truth" vs. "The End"
:"Captured Souls" vs. "Capture of the Spirits"
:"The Hellish All-out Attack" vs. "The General Offensive of Hell"
:"The Course of the Future" vs. "The Fate of the Future"
Could someone who's more adept at Japanese please clarify which titles should be universally used on this Wiki, and help in an attempt to create a greater sense of unity between the individual episode pages and the Geneon page (and with any other such pages on this Wiki as well)? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:29, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:The titles on the episode pages are more refined. Not to mention it would be easier to change the titles on a single page. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 05:58, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
::"I Hath Returned"? That's incorrect English. "Hath" was third person singular, not first person ("he hath" not "I hath"). --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:::[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] translated that. I recall the intention was to capture the old-timey connotation of the original Japanese. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 08:21, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:Something else that has me pondering are the specific choices made in spelling and grammar of a few of these titles. Like, the inclusion of a "The" where it may not need be (like in "The Solitary Warrior Tigatron" instead of just "Solitary Warrior Tigatron", or "The Falcon Warrior Airrazor" vs. "Falcon Warrior Airazor") or the use a comma (like in "Goodbye, Rattle!?" as opposed to "Goodbye Rattle!?") or a space between two words instead of making them a compound word ("Death Match" vs. "Deathmatch"), and the synonymous use of "Resurrect(ion)", "Rebirth", and "Revive". In these cases, are the titles on the episode pages truly the more precise titles, or could they also use some amending? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 11:20, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
::Most of those details are up to the translator's discretion. But, like I said, it's easier to just edit the Genon page rather than across multiple articles. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:33, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

== Category:Deceased ==
Sub-categories
*Category:Deceased (Generation 1 cartoon)
**Category:Deceased (Marvel comics)
**Category:Deceased (BW)
*Category:Deceased (Armada)
*Category:Deceased (Energon)
*Category:Deceased (Movie)
**Category:Deceased (ROTF)
**Category:Deceased (DOTM)
*Category:Deceased (SG)
*Category:Deceased (Animated)
*Category:Deceased (Aligned)

Why not?--[[User:Finister2|Finister2]] 05:52, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

:"Deceased" is a stupid idea on a wiki that focuses on fiction with multiple continuities, time periods, vague "deaths", and resurrections. All characters will inevitably die at one point. This is not a warranted category. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 05:55, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

::Vote for "No".
::A character may get killed in a sub-continuity but alive in another. Not to mention if the character will be resurrected or not. (So, we don't need Category:Resurrected characters, either.) --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 10:11, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:::It is an appealing idea, to have categories for characters that are deceased "now." If they are patched up, they get removed from the category. I would have changed the categories to "Deceased (Movieverse)" and "Deceased (UT cartoon)" since they are supposed to be all one continuity. The only problem I see is vague deaths and continuity inconsistencies. People would probably disagree with me that [[Brawn (G1)]] obviously survived that shot to the shoulder. So, unfortunately, I can't fully endorse the idea. - [[User:Starfield|Starﬁeld]] 11:08, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
::::If we go by continuity, we are going to have a ''lot'' of "Deceased" categories. And you could only do it by continuity, which goes against our current methods to have categories by franchise. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:46, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
::I agree with you guys in regards to characters. but, what about a category for ''real'' people who have been involved with the Transformers franchise (like voice actors, designers, writers, etc.) who are deceased? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 11:11, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

== Scheduled downtime. ==

Our hoster is moving servers around tomorrow. One of ours is gonna be moved starting between "Thu Apr 12 23:00:00 UTC 2012 and Fri Apr 13 05:00:00 UTC 2012." So that'll happen. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:52, 11 April 2012 (EDT)
:I presume all the necessary backups have been made? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 22:37, 11 April 2012 (EDT)
::Regularly, like clockwork. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:51, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

==Category: Cats==
Presumably we have some kind of unwritten "We don't categorise by altmode" rule in play here, so I apologise if my adding a bunch of characters to this category seemed heavy-handed but in my defence the distinction between ''Shattered Glass'' Steeljaw and G1 Ravage is, eh, pretty much non-existent, Cheetor himself says "I'm a cat", it's a subset of Characters by species and we have K-9 under Dogs, so it's hardly black and white. But my main reason for doing it was that in SEO terms, having the word "Cats" repeatedly linked a bunch of times throughout the wiki is really quite useful, as in the wider internet cats are kind of a big deal. Real effing kitten calendars and all that. Isn't that something to consider? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 03:47, 26 April 2012 (EDT)
:Categorizing by alternate mode has been brought up several times, but nobody has bothered to hammer out the details and do it. I don't particularly care for it one way or another, but putting Transformers in plain categories like "Cats" and "Watercraft" based on alternate mode makes them useless to those who only want to know about actual cats or watercraft in ''Transformers''. That said, I completely fail to see the relevance of Internet memes to our categorization system. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:59, 26 April 2012 (EDT)
::Well, just that keywords are good for search engines, keywords that link to relevant pages even better and lots of people search for cats on the internet. I know that my girlfriend does and at a time like this (when my birthday is coming up) it's not impossible that she might search for "Transformers cats". If that led her to, say, SG Ravage's page (which is quite accessible to an internet-savvy non-fan with its twitter references and Walky's cartoons) then she may well stick around to find out more, and maybe look for more Transformers cats through the category links at the bottom of the page. At the moment our first link in a Google search is Snow Cat, who's kinda cool but you'd probably have to be a GI Joe fan to really get it. I dunno, I'm just spitballing here, but part of my job is SEO so I hope I at least know something like what I'm talking about. Anyway, that was my line of thinking. If it's problematic then that's fine, but I'm not really convinced by the "people looking for actual cats or watercraft in ''Transformers''" argument either - on a TF wiki I think they'd assume Transformers that turn into either of those things would be included by default. They are robots in disguise, after all. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 14:36, 26 April 2012 (EDT)

== Google + ==
I've made a Google + for the wiki. I just need someone to link it to the main page because I don't know how. This is the link: https://plus.google.com/106006102124340784739 -- [[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 19:00, 30 April 2012 (EDT)

== Alt-mode listings ==

I've seen several things here discussing listing alt-modes by ''category'', but I'm looking for something a bit less complicated. I would really appreciate having each character's page at least openly list their alt-mode in the beginning; as it stands, some pages do not make it clear what that character turns into, generally only mentioning it in passing or in screenshots. I think some kind of fill-in-the-blanks template would work well, the kind they use on Wikipedia for comic book superheroes that have sections for code names, secret identities, a brief list of abilities, etc. It doesn't even have to be that thorough, just a small piece under the page's main picture that has "name, alt-mode, faction" would be a nice change of pace. [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] 15:15, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
:Your idea is impractical because many characters have had numerous altmodes. Listing all of them would be ridiculously long while trying to generalize them down to a single listing would be useless. For example, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. The casual fan might assume that you could just list his altmode as "semi truck" and be done with it. But he has also been a bat, a Lambourghini Diablo and a shoe. And that doesn't even get into what kind of "semi truck" he is: cab over engine like the original or long nose like the Generation 2 version. And does it have a sleeper. With or without trailer. And you still haven't covered his non-Earth modes. None of the Cybertronian forms we have seen looks anything like any of the others. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:29, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
::I don't care one way or the other, but we could hide the minor alternate modes, the same as we do with voice actors. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:40, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
:While I agree that we should do our best to list alt-modes, at the beginning of the article doesn't seem like the most efficient place to do it. Rather, we should continue listing the alt-mode in the description of the various toys and work on filling in those that are lacking. - [[User:Shellspark|Shellspark]] 16:26, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
: Well, there are a lot of fiction-only altmodes going on. I could see this working as a Notes subsection, possibly as a gallery. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:27, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
:: Yeah, that's why I always attempt to get an image of each altmode in the fiction section as they appear. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:56, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

==Redundant foreign names==
According to Interrobang:
:"''So? It's been the standard for a long time and exactly how do you expect readers to know that Japan uses the same name without noting it?''"
1) No, it has NOT been "the standard for a long time". In fact, we didn't do this for YEARS. You're the one who seems to have decided, fairly recently, to pull this crap. Like with "mammoth". 
2) Well. Why don't we just list every country in the world that also uses that name? After all, how exactly are we to know if the Canadians don't not call her Airachnid, or the Germans, or the Zimbabweans (holy shit "Zimbabweans" is ''correct''?), or the other 190-odd nations across the globe? Oh wait, because we can use some incredibly base deductive reasoning and assume that unless a ''different'' name is listed for a country, ''it's the same name and we don't need to fucking list it there just so you can get a katakana-boner''. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:45, 3 May 2012 (EDT)
:There is the argument to be made that not including a foreign name leaves the reader unable to know if the character either has the same name in that country, or if that information is just ''missing'' from the article. Not that I disagree that it ''really'' seems to have got out of control, to the point that the Japanese words for "doctor" or "scientist" or "coach" or "mammoth" are being added to nameless characters' articles. I enjoyed our older attitude that basically amounted to "fuck katanana unless necessary to explain something". - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:05, 3 May 2012 (EDT)
::The counter-argument was already made above. ''Transformers'' is a global brand now, and it's basically a waste of space to list every country where Optimus Prime is called "Optimus Prime" (or as close as they can get phonetically), and better to assume that it is "Optimus Prime" unless otherwise noted. The ''probability'' that the name is the same is pretty damn good nowadays, especially in Japan. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 07:34, 3 May 2012 (EDT)
:::I'm sympathetic. If somebody actually does go through the trouble to track down what Airachnid is called in Zimbabwean and it ends up being "Airachnid" then if they put the information down, then nobody else will have to go through the trouble of looking it up. What if redundant foreign names are left <nowiki></nowiki> - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:04, 3 May 2012 (EDT)
::::I hate seeing redundant names, but I agree that a certain degree of "is this already known?" may exist in a vacuum. I'm not opposed to leaving them in the code but commented out to keep them out of the page itself. -[[User:LV|LV]] 00:00, 4 May 2012 (EDT)
:::::Would it be acceptable to have a template that displays the foreign names, but hides or combines entries if the names are not unique? The template might also be able to auto-categorize by "characters missing ''language'' names", too.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 18:49, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

==Toy Fair/Pre-Toy Fair Catalogues==
Collectively we went all out on getting hold of the 86 PTF catalogue when it popped up on eBay and have a nice page with full scans of it (I say "we" I completely missed that fund-raising drive). Going forward, is it a feasible aim for other Toy Fair and Pre-Toy Fair cats to be collected for the Wiki or is 86 known to be the only one of significant interest? I ask because I just stumbled upon an eBay seller with the 88 TF cat (which I'd hoped to procure for use on my Visionaries wiki) and some early 90s ones, all of which are beyond my means, but at relatively reasonable prices. Can't link to them on my phone, but I thought I'd mention it in case they are of significant interest like the 86 one was. [[User:Danja|Danja]] 03:45, 6 May 2012 (EDT)

== Google Chrome ==
Does anybody else experience a ''really'' slow connection to only this site while using Google Chrome? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 21:42, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

FYI: <nowiki>{{bigquote}}</nowiki> overlaps images in Google Chrome, like on [[Thaddeus Morocco|Morocco]]. I don't know when that started. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:03, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

Now, the <nowiki>{{picsneeded}}</nowiki> tag overlaps the top of the episode template. It might just be my computer, but I don't know. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 18:28, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

:These layout problems are apparently an issue with the latest version of Chrome. I guess they'll get fixed in the next release or something. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:10, 31 May 2012 (EDT)
::There's been two new versions of Chrome since you said that, [[User:Abates|abates]], and it hasn't been fixed, so I'm reporting it to Google. Like that's gonna work. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 10:09, 19 June 2012 (EDT)
:::Is this problem still happening? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:22, 15 October 2012 (EDT)
::::Wow, completely forgot about this. And no, since I reported it to Google, it's been fixed. I'm surprised. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 06:26, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

== Transformers 4 ==
Does anyone mind if I take a stab at creating a page for it? I'm not some idiot who's gonna create a crappy page with no effort. Or is it ''way'' to early to do that? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 19:03, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
:I'd say wait until at least the first poster appears on the Internet, then you'll have some sort of image to put in. Really though it is a bit too early, if everything goes to plan TF4 won't be out for another two years, so the TF4 article would be sitting around with nothing on it for at least a year before we start getting concrete information. [[User:TurboFox|TurboFox]] 17:06, 24 August 2012 (EDT)

== Prime game ==
What do people think about putting [[Transformers: Prime - The Game|Transformers Prime: The Game]] in the nav bar? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 09:47, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
:Or we can replace the link to the Prime cartoon page with a link to the Prime franchise page, that way it avoids overcluttering the navbar. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:15, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
::Yeah, that also might work. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 09:23, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
:::At least 95% of the people who click on that are likely to be looking for info on the cartoon, and I feel like if we have Rescue Bots and Dark of the Moon pointing to the cartoon/film rather than the franchises, we should aim to be consistent with our navigation. We'll presumably have to add [[Transformers Universe]] there eventually anyway. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:46, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
::::Yeah, I forgot about that. We probably can take Dark of the Moon to declutter it. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 16:50, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
:::::We could divide things up with subheaders or just by putting darker lines in to split up the links. Man, I wish there was a way to easily add in more links without cluttering up the menu too much. It feels like we should have links to current toylines as well, and maybe the current IDW comics. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:21, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
::::::Yeah probably, but what can you do, right? And I like that subheader idea. And on a different note, "Transformers Prime: The Game" is a mouthful. How can we abbreviate that? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 17:36, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
::::::: TF Prime: The Game??? [[User:Bumblebee2000|Bumblebee2000]] 08:19, 12 June 2012 (EDT)
::::::::Probably the best we can do. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 13:37, 12 June 2012 (EDT)
:::::::::On abbreviating the name, as everything on the wiki is Transformers, you can say "Prime: The Game" instead of "TF Prime: The Game". The "TF" is assumed. [[User:JohnnyMrNinja|JohnnyMrNinja]] 15:30, 13 June 2012 (EDT)
::::::::::So what are we going to do about this nav bar? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 18:17, 12 June 2012 (EDT)
:::::::::::Are we using the <nowiki>{{Primecap}}</nowiki> template for images from it? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 10:07, 13 June 2012 (EDT)

:::::::::::Be patient. This stuff never happens overnight. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:50, 12 June 2012 (EDT)
::::::::::::Not exactly overnight anymore, two months later. As you might be able to tell, patience is not my strong suit. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 12:10, 30 August 2012 (EDT)
:::::::::::::Sorry, I meant to have a go at fiddling with the lines to break the menu up a bit but I forgot. I'll have a go at it this weekend. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:16, 30 August 2012 (EDT)
::::::::::::::Sweet! -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 17:33, 30 August 2012 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::''Niiiiccceeee.'' -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:10, 1 September 2012 (EDT)
I have added this and taken out Dark of the Moon, since that's been out for over a year. I was going to add [[Transformers Universe]], but I realised we still don't have a release date for that. I've also added darker lines under the "Main Page" and under the navigation links which are actual articles rather than Wiki things, which will hopefully make those links more grouped in function. You might have to force a refresh to see those. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:12, 1 September 2012 (EDT)
:I see them. Nice looking. And I'll let you know when we have a release date. I check every day. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:16, 1 September 2012 (EDT)

I think I'm leaning towards moving the ''[[Transformers: Prime - The Game|Prime: The Game]]'' page to ''Transformers Prime - The Game'', since that's how the official website writes it. So the Nav bar might have to get changed. Just a heads up. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 17:31, 10 October 2012 (EDT)

== Rare/Unkown vintage G1 Walkie Talkie toys? ==

Hi guys. I was just browsing ebay and came across 3 old G1 Walkie Talkies that don't appear to be mentioned on the wiki anywhere.
#1- [http://www.ebay.com/itm/Transformers-Walkie-Talkie-ROBOT-1987-Hasbro-Inc/270982316728/ This] one appears to be an Argentinian Transformer with the mold licensed from Commando Toys.
#2 [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Transformers-G1-Walkie-Talkies-Boxed-/300654034838?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item4600607f96/ These] guys appear to be unnamed generics.
#3 [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/REAL-VTG-80s-TRANSFORMERS-INTERCOM-TELEPHONE-SYSTEM-WIRED-WALKIE-TALKIE-NIB-MIB-/360458042129?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item53ecf93b11 This] one features two Optimus Primes as an "Electronic Intercom Telephone System" (which seems to basically be two walkie talkies connected via a wire). Box says made by Nasta in lager photos and check out that goofy looking transformation sequence.

I'm not entirely sure if any of these are legit as I've never seen them mentioned anywhere else before. Anyone else know more info about these? Should they be added to wiki? [[User:RavenG|RavenG]] 02:27, 16 June 2012 (EDT)
:I used to have a set of #2, but I've no idea where they are now. They were pretty common in the UK I think. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 03:17, 19 July 2012 (EDT)

== Technical Contact (and passwords) ==

Hi, guys. It's Botch the Crab... though I can't sign in as my account. I lost my password. I don't know what email address is associated with the account, but whichever one it is, when I did the "forgot password" thing and was told a new password was emailed to me, I never received any emails.

So my first question is: who can help me re-claim my account?

My second question is: who are the technical administrators of the wiki, and is that information posted somewhere that I couldn't find? I tried contacting Chris McFeely and David Willis, but neither of them were able to help, nor did they know who
would. So! Suggestions?

:I tried emailing your username, but it didn't work... It said that I need to be logged in with a valid email set, but I had done both of those things. Can any other user successfully send an email to [[User:Botch the Crab]]? Because it might be the email module that isn't working and that's why you can't reset your password. I don't think the MediaWiki framework has been updated since 2008 (we're running [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.12#MediaWiki_1.12.0 MediWiki 1.12.0]), and if David Willis doesn't know who's running the tech (seeing as how [http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/tfwiki.net he registered this site), it makes me think that there are not any people doing that. I could be mistaken, but I think there are only admins that are affecting change within the MW software.
:As far as I know, once a password to a MW site is lost there is no recovery outside of email, at least that is the case for WP. [[User:JohnnyMrNinja|JohnnyMrNinja]] 17:49, 16 June 2012 (EDT)

::I just tried sending an email to Botch and it worked, though the copy I sent myself ended up in my gmail spam folder. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:48, 16 June 2012 (EDT)

:::You're right, I had to confirm my email address and now I can email, although emails from this site were marked as spam for me as well. Botch, I can only hope that you haven't checked your spam folder. [[User:JohnnyMrNinja|JohnnyMrNinja]] 00:54, 17 June 2012 (EDT)

:Thanks for all the help, guys. Unfortunately, I haven't received any of the "new password" emails. (Yes, I keep checking the spam folder.) The frustrating part is that without being able to sign in, I cannot confirm ''which'' email address these are being sent to. All my emails are forwarded to my gmail account, so I have no idea why I wouldn't receive them. It's a mystery. It's weird to think it's possible that none of the administrators have the access or ability to solve this.--[[User:Botch|Botch]] 23:18, 18 June 2012 (EDT)
::I thought Scout and/or McFly were doing our technical stuff. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:27, 18 June 2012 (EDT)
:::I'm pretty sure that Scout and I have been over this fairly often: We're pretty damned busy, so we're not monitoring the Community Portal pages. If someone's forgotten their password AND the associated email address, there's no real secure way to get them back in. Email addresses aren't exposed to us until we get down to the to SQL DB layer, barring some additional extensions that would expose everyone's information to a trusted few. I strongly suggest making a new account in the interim, while we discuss the repercussions of adding some more User Management extensions, and figuring out who we can trust. I'll tell you this much, though: If your password isn't basically a random scramble of characters and symbols, I wouldn't trust you with maintenance access. It's like giving a handgun to a chimp. (Not picking on anyone in particular, but let's keep this in mind as we start adding cooks to the kitchen.) --[[User:McFly|McFly]] 11:54, 1 August 2012 (EDT)

:Sad update: I managed to scrounge up the database password from some old notes, and I've got your email address: Same one listed on your website. If you can disable whatever's filtering out your spam, that might help, since your site mentions some sort of sender-response mechanism. Poor old Mediawiki is too stupid/honest to pretend that she's a human.--[[User:McFly|McFly]] 12:11, 1 August 2012 (EDT)

== Captions need to go ==

It seems I am not the only one who finds the caption "humor" annoying and irrelevant to the photo it is placed with. I see in huge bold letters 'THE FUNNY STAYS. -The Management' So it seems this is not the first time someone has brought this up.

It seems " The Management " are the few people who get their kicks from such while the rest of the users are stuck just rolling their eyes. I for one will no longer be visiting this wiki because of such.

The nail in the coffin for me was a caption that I looked up as I wondered why I didn't get the "joke" as I seen tons of Xformer related shows. Heaven forbid the joke had nothing to do with transformers, only the person who wrote the joke and a small selection of people probably will understand it.

Just a little FYI 90% of the captions are unfunny, I would dare say 30% or more have nothing to do with xformers.

(sorry if this is in the wrong place, sort of new to wiki's and I wish the first thing I could have posted here would have been positive. I believe this is really positive and will help the wiki more than any article I could have wrote.)
: Thank you for leaving. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:11, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

:Eh, the majority of the time when I stumble on a discussion on wikis on other sites, people will cite TFWiki and Wookiepedia as the best, and are generally complimentary about the humour, so while we occasionally get complaints about it, it seems like the majority of people like it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:29, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

: I also believe that anything else you would have contributed to the wiki would have been less useful than this. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:58, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

:....xformers? Is spelling out Transformers properly now "2 kool for skool"? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:32, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

:The Funny '''STAYS'''. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 09:26, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

:I'd note that if you want a serious TF wiki, there's an abandoned Wikia wiki that nobody seems to have gotten the bright idea of turning into one yet instead of always trying to convert this one. --[[Special:Contributions/108.176.195.222|108.176.195.222]] 01:43, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

::Some people here have actually mentioned this idea to the wikia "community", but they seem hellbent on remaining a poor copy of this site. The fact that they have barely added any pages since this site began while we have doubled in size doesn't seem to register to some of the people over there. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 02:37, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

: If you feel that bad about it then write some of your own on the Pics with out Captions. (hell knows that ultra magnus "I can deal with that" has been done to death)[[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 09:38, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
::To be fair, serious captions, unless vital to the understanding of the picture, tend to get rewritten here. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:42, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

== Spoiler titles ==

Something which came up last month, but I didn't want to bring it up at the time because it would only have compounded the problem.

The title for [[How Ratchet Got His Hands Back|IDW MtMtE #5]] was placed at the '''end''' of the issue, [http://www.comics.org/issue/26304/cover/4/ "The Night Gwen Stacy Died"]-style (rather than the typical beginning/first splash page), because it was ''itself'' a spoiler.

So, of course, every page which had a {{tl|spoiler}}-tag for the issue plastered it in the spoiler tag itself.

There's got to be a better way of doing this if a comic gets a spoiler-title again. -- [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 20:19, 7 July 2012 (EDT)
:The spoiler tags could have linked to the "More than Meets the Eye issue 5" redirect instead (the issue was originally created there to avoid just that problem, but then it got moved to the actual title anyway) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:30, 7 July 2012 (EDT)

Speaking of SPOILERS, is there any way people could ''stop'' putting them up for comics before the issues actually come out? By sheer happenstance, I just came across some significant details on the Wiki about the DJD, their leader, and their membership that I honestly would have preferred to read for myself when it's published. It was posted by long time members, so I'm assuming it's legit and came from SDCC or somewhere, but there are no sources so I can't be sure. If an anon posted that stuff, I probably would have removed it as typical Wikipedia fanfic trying to creep in.

Regardless, it's getting tough to come onto the TFwiki because of this stuff. Whenever a new 5-page preview for RID or MTMTE comes out, people are immediately updating the crew on the ''Lost Light'' page, adding place-holder storylinks to pages for new characters showing up, and just generally revealing every detail they can extract from the previews ahead of time. I get that avoiding spoilers on the internet is a luxury nowadays, but these previews come out nearly a week in advance for each of IDW's two series. Its one thing to avoid SPOILERS-labeled topics in a message board...its another to avoid the entire TFwiki for a third of every month to dodge preview materials. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 21:52, 20 July 2012 (EDT)
:This one I'll have to own, as 'twas me that did the deed. It was, as you speculated, another five page preview from IDW. I'd ''hoped'' the details I put in weren't too spoilery, as in the leader's case it was mostly putting a name to details we'd found out issues before. I can only apologize and try to be a bit more careful.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:11, 20 July 2012 (EDT)
::I'll also say that I was going to stick the group shot of them up on the wiki, but I can hold off if you think that would be best.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:40, 20 July 2012 (EDT)

== Autobot Communications officer in Headmasters ==

<nowiki>[[Image:Hm - autobot communications officer.jpg|thumb]]</nowiki>
Hey, this guy appeared in a single episode of Heamasters where he was the communications officer on-duty at Autobot City. ...does anyone know which episode? -[[User:Derik|Derik]]
:[[The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 1)]]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:27, 18 July 2012 (EDT)
::Sir, you are a gentleman and a [[Transformerology|Transformerologist]]. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:47, 18 July 2012 (EDT)

== Connection issues ==

Is it just me or are there problems with the wiki's server or in how many connections it can manage at a time? I've not been around for awhile and have noticed that if I spend a few hours reading or editing the wiki, it randomly stops working for periods between 5 minutes to half an hour, which is a problem if I've just made a large edit to something. In fact, in the few minutes that it took for me to write this, it twice stopped working (so I couldn't preview the edit), and that was after sitting around for perhaps 10 minutes waiting for the wiki to allow me to open the community portal page. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:00, 2 August 2012 (EDT)
:I get this a lot, usually only for short periods but quite regularly. Either it just hangs or I get the "unable to serve page" error. Usually halfway through a big edit too, which is why I keep a text editor open to cut and paste stuff into. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 04:41, 30 August 2012 (EDT)

== I ♥ you guys ==

Am I the only one who sees ♥'s everywhere in the RecentChanges page?

Did we screw up the CSS while adding an admin? -[[Special:Contributions/67.6.127.163|67.6.127.163]] 23:03, 29 August 2012 (EDT)
:You don't see them if you're logged in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:10, 30 August 2012 (EDT)
::I think if you're logged in, you still see them if you have the enhanced Recent Changes turned off, because Derik only coded them for the simple version of RC. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:39, 1 September 2012 (EDT)

== G.I. Joe wiki - a little help? ==

Hello, all. I just wanted to add a request for some help for what should really by this wiki's sister site, Joepedia, the G.I. Joe Wiki. Now, I posted a similar request on some other sci-fi themed wiki, but the only answer I got was being told that the rules forbid a request from another wiki to be made. Well, I think that was kind of stupid, considering the communal attitude the whole wiki concept represents. BUT, ANYWAY, the Joepedia has been growing over the years, but it's mostly frequented by a small dedicated group of contributors. Since Transformers and G.I. Joe are so closely linked, I hoped some folks on here would like to help.

I will add that I have no authority over on that site, and I don't really contribute much, mostly because of the time spent my own website. I'm just a concerned geeky citizen drumming up some support. --[[User:JMM|JMM]] 10:26, 7 September 2012 (EDT)
:Well, I would, but I really don't know jack shit about G.I. Joe. And when I think about it, I'm not sure this post belongs here. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 17:36, 7 September 2012 (EDT)
::Just looking around for a little help. This seemed like the closest thing to a G.I. Joe wiki out there, and I figured it was worth a try. --[[User:JMM|JMM]] 13:23, 13 September 2012 (EDT)
::I don't see a problem with a polite request for assistance or notification that a Joe wiki exists, since there IS some crossover interest. I just don't know how much ''useful'' crossover interest for the Joe wiki there is from this end outside of what we've already done. I mean, we've got extensive coverage of the parts of Joe directly involving TFs... I'd say that's probably going to be the most useful thing we have for you. But, if others wanna try it out... 
::...unless you're on Wikia.... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 13:27, 13 September 2012 (EDT)
:::Yeah, it was just a quick heads up so people who may be interested are aware. I know a number of people who are equally obsessed with TF and Joe. :) Oh, and yes, it is on Wikia! --[[User:JMM|JMM]] 14:22, 13 September 2012 (EDT)
::::We did at one point approach a partnership with Joepedia, and even had a template that cross-linked articles we shared. It was just a little premature at the time (which was years ago) as Joepedia was just starting out and often our articles were more complete than theirs, or theirs were just stubs. It looks like they've gotten off the ground a bit more now.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:30, 13 September 2012 (EDT)
:::::Yes, their wiki got started later than this one. They have a small group of dedicated contributers, but the site's yet to attract the kind of interest this one does. --[[User:JMM|JMM]] 16:34, 13 September 2012 (EDT)

== New stub template ==
Does anybody have any objections to a video game stub template? It would look something like this:
 {{messagebox
|header=This article is still in beta stage.
|message_text=''This video game article is a [[:Category:Video game stubs|stub]] and is missing information. You can help '''{{SITENAME}}''' by [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}|action=edit}} expanding it].''
|image_name=ProwlTFU.JPG
|image_width=40px
|width = 90%
}}<includeonly>[[Category:Video game stubs]]</includeonly>
If anybody knows of a better picture that would go well with this, please upload it so it can be put in. Thanks! -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 15:52, 2 October 2012 (EDT)

:How about a pic from the story where Prime dies in a video game? Heh if only Beta had ever been in a game, that'd be perfect. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 16:03, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
::What story was that? And yeah, that woulda been great. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 19:53, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
:::That would be [[Afterdeath!]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:56, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
::::Well if people really want a picture from that, someone else will have to upload it, as I don't have access to it. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 21:59, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
:::::[[:Image:Afterdeath-gameoverman.jpg|Right here, dude.]]--[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:34, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
::::::Thanks, man. It's on the ''[[Transformers: Prime - The Game|Prime: The Game]]'' page if you want to see it. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 22:50, 2 October 2012 (EDT)

In addition to the video game stub, I'd like to suggest adding several templates, such as "section stub" and "fiction stub". Right now, we only have "characer stub fiction" for pages only missing fiction section, but no templates for non-character page missing fiction appearance. While "section stub" can use for articles only missing one or two sections. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 22:05, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
:Ok, so I'm gonna go ahead and make the video game one, and TX, if I get around to it later, maybe the others. If not, well, someone else will. Oh, and if I miss an article that the video game one should go on, put it here. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 22:31, 2 October 2012 (EDT)

== Megatron Barcode Battler Card ==

Hi, I was wondering if anyone here had come across this Megatron card for the Barcode Battler, or knows where in the Wiki it should go:
{|
|-
|[[Image:Barcode Battler Megatron Card Front.jpg|200px]]
|[[Image:Barcode Battler Megatron Card Back.jpg|200px]]
|}
It seems to have been released by Toys R Us in 1992 as a promo for the Barcode Battler (which they were trying to sell in store), and was (as far as is known) the only such Transformers card, probably given away with two [http://barcodebattler.co.uk/scans/UK/ToysRUsF.jpg blank] [http://barcodebattler.co.uk/scans/UK/ToysRUsB.jpg cards] (the bottom scan - the middle is from the Barcode Battler box) to add your own barcodes to, and a card wallet.

The text ("Clad in steel, armed to the teeth, nobody toys with us good guys when this moody cool deadly-dudey is around.") is probably enough to make you want to forget this was ever made (is it really calling Megatron a good guy?), but it's cropped up in enough eBay sales (occasionally found in Barcode Battler lots with the seller unaware that they've got something rare) to make it likely to be genuine.

So does anyone else have any information on it, and whereabouts should this go? [[User:Xensyria|xensyria]] 12:26, 16 October 2012 (EDT) EDIT: 13:10, 16 October 2012 (EDT)
:I definitely don't know anything about it, besides that it's awesome, but if it's from 1992, then the only Megatron it could be is Megatron (G1), and so it should probably be on his toys/merchandise page.
:It's also plausible that someone who knows something about Barcode Battlers should make a short article on them for the wiki, since we have a lot of those "this broader thing had a TF thing released under it" pages. -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:31, 16 October 2012 (EDT)
::Or...this isn't anything to do with a licensed Transformers thing? I sort of blindly assumed Hasbro was the entity selling the Barcode Battler in the UK, but the packaging doesn't seem to support that. It's hard to believe it's not intended to be TF Megatron, but I'm also not sure it's an official product. Especially since this Megatron guy seems to be the boxfront "main character" for the UK Barcode Battler release. -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:37, 16 October 2012 (EDT)
:::Ah, that's a possibility, but Barcode Battler was being distributed in most of Europe by Tomy, so they probably gave Toys R Us rights to use Megatron. Perhaps they couldn't get the rights to use his picture though (as you say, it's Tomy's Barcode Battler cover on the card, so anyone who used the card probably wouldn't think it was supposed to be Megatron). I should also say that 1992 is more of an educated guess than fact, but it's bound to be somewhere around that.
:::If it's offical I don't mind making a Barcode Battler article (though I'll have to check out some of the other examples you mention first). [[User:Xensyria|xensyria]] 13:02, 16 October 2012 (EDT)
::::Wait, I just re-read Wikipedia, and Tomy was rivals with Takara who owned Transformers at the time. Still, I wonder if such big companies would risk a lawsuit over using Megatron, when they had all sorts of other franchises they could use instead; more likely Toys R Us arranged the deal with Hasbro, who they no doubt were one of the biggest retailers for at the time. [[User:Xensyria|xensyria]] 13:04, 16 October 2012 (EDT) EDIT: 13:12, 16 October 2012 (EDT)
:::::Unlikely to be a Hasbro/TF related thing. In 1992 TFs weren't even being made in the US and the UK line didn't have a Megatron, the Decepticons were led by Skyquake at that time. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:14, 16 October 2012 (EDT)
:::::Well, this is sort of like with Yu-Gi-Oh's Space Megatron, Hasbro's trademark just didn't apply to things like gaming cards, so Tomy, just like Konami later, was in a safe zone. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:20, 16 October 2012 (EDT)
::::::Ah, that would explain the "good guys" text as well. It seems to be a U.K. only thing, and though there may not have been Megatron toys there (is there a reference to them not being released in the U.K. on this on the wiki?) the name would have been familiar from the the film. Is there anywhere for similarly unofficial merchandice here, or should it be cast back into the purgatory of its makers' device? [[User:Xensyria|xensyria]] 15:11, 16 October 2012 (EDT)
:::::::While I never played it, I distinctively remember Barcode Battlers as well, so it's not a UK-only thing. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:15, 16 October 2012 (EDT)
::::::::My bad, I mean the Megatron card, which uses the Tomy box art (the U.S. version was by Irwin, and Japan by the developer, Epoch). [[User:Xensyria|xensyria]] 15:22, 16 October 2012 (EDT)
:::::::::See [[The Transformers (toyline)]] and [[Generation 1 (European toyline)]] for lists of what was released in the US and Europe each year of the original toyline. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:37, 16 October 2012 (EDT)
::::::::::Also, in answer to your question about unofficial merchandise, we only cover official products from Hasbro, Takara and their license holders. About the only place that this could really go on this site is the [[trademark]] page, in a similar use as the "Space Megatron" card from Yu-Gi-Oh! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 07:53, 18 October 2012 (EDT)

==Recent spamming==
Granted, I haven't been here all that often, but the recent spamming has me wondering if the perpetrator(s) are using some form of IP hopping. It's feeling rather hydra-ish at the moment. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 07:22, 18 October 2012 (EDT)
:I still suggest you add a recaptcha for edits that add external links, at least for new accounts.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 14:09, 18 October 2012 (EDT)

== Universe/UT Micromaster combiners ==

There isn't any general page for these, so I'm putting this here.

Given our treatment of the ROTF/Universe (2008) Bruticus Maximus and Superion sets, I wonder if the Universe (2003) Micromaster combiners whose European releases were branded as Energon ([[Defensor (Universe)|Defensor]], [[Constructicon Devastator (Micromaster)|Constructicon Devastator]]) or Cybertron ([[Superion (Universe)|Superion]], [[Rail Racer (Universe)|Rail Racer]]) should be considered Unicron Trilogy characters. It's the same basic situation, except that the nature of Universe (2003) means that just because the European versions are Energon/Cybertron doesn't mean they're different guys. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 11:00, 18 October 2012 (EDT)
:Aren't they already listed that way? Defensor and Constructicon Devastator have "Energon Autobot" and "Energon Decepticon" categories and Superion and Rail Racer are in the category "Cybertron Autobots". I haven't checked the individual team members yet. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:59, 18 October 2012 (EDT)
:Just checked the team members and found only one that was not categorized as Energon or Cybertron characters (Long Haul), I added the appropriate category. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:04, 18 October 2012 (EDT)
::I guess he's talking about the continuity identifier at the top? [[Special:Contributions/24.211.29.87|24.211.29.87]] 13:24, 18 October 2012 (EDT)
:::Ah, that makes sense. I could see something like the one used for [[King Atlas]]. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:49, 18 October 2012 (EDT)

Rumble (WFC)

2012-10-18T18:07:32Z

192.249.47.177: minor fixes

{{faction|decepticon|minicon}}
{{disambig3|Rumble}}
:''Rumble is a [[Decepticon]] [[Mini-Con]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:RumblePrime-cardart.jpg|right|thumb|300px|not enough FIBRIR so I make big]]

'''Rumble''' loves using his quake-producing armament to shake up the opposition. Though he is most often found by the side (or rather, ''inside'') of his powerful commander, [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]], Rumble can be a surprisingly effective warrior on his own, his piledrivers can open up the ground below his opponents, throwing even the mighteist warriors for a tumble! It's these moments of chaos that keep up Rumble's morale.

He is [[FIRRIB|blue!]] He's also less [[Deployer (Prime)|Mini-Con]]ny these days.

{{bigquote|Get ready to ''crumble''... before ''Rumble!''|Rumble on his own awesomeness|''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|War for Cybertron]]''}}

==Fiction==
===Aligned novels===
Soundwave sent Rumble and [[Frenzy (WFC)|Frenzy]] to search for the [[Matrix of Leadership]] in [[Crystal City]]. Afterwards they attended [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]]'s hearing with the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Keith Silverstein]] (English)

[[Image:WFC Rumble intro.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Look everyone; no hands!]]

Following the defeat of [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]] in the [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] [[Vaults]], the [[Autobot]] leader was transferred to [[Kaon]] prison facility where he was tortured by Soundwave. In the hopes of luring [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]] to Kaon, [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and Soundwave orchestrated events that allowed Zeta Prime to send a message to the Autobots revealing of his survival. Even though the Autobots recognized it for the trap it was, Optimus nevertheless led [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] and [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sidewipe]] allowing themselves to be captured and briefly imprisoned. They broke free, releasing all of the other Autobots in the prison and fought their way to Soundwave's laboratory. Soundwave protected himself behind an impenetrable forcefield and unleashed Rumble, [[Frenzy (WFC)|Frenzy]], and [[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]] upon the Autobots. Any attempt by Optimus and his team to free Zeta was met with a gleeful attack by Rumble and his compatriots. However, when they received damage, Soundwave was forced to leave his protective shield to administer repairs, leaving him open to attack. Eventually, Soundwave and his minions were overwhelmed and had to retreat but not before mortally wounding Zeta Prime. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron''===
Rumble assisted Soundwave in his efforts to rebuild and revive Megatron, putting the Decepticon leader's new head into the assembly machine. He subsequently handed the reborn Megatron a [[Riot Cannon]]. Later, Rumble fought during the Decepticon assault on the ''[[Ark (WFC)|Ark]]'', destroying obstructions and helping his master fell enemies. {{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron}}

==Toys==
===Prime===
[[Image:Prime-toy_Rumble.jpg|thumb|right|300px|His torso is [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]]'s face.]]
*'''Decepticon Rumble''' (Deluxe, 2012)
**''Series/number'': '''1 / 014'''
**''Japanese release date'': '''??-??-2013'''
**''Japanese ID number'': '''AM-30'''
**''Accessories'': Left & right pile drivers (Hasbro only), Arms Micron (TakaraTomy only)

: Part of the fifth wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Robots in Disguise (2012)|Prime: Robots in Disguise]]'' Deluxe Class toys, "Decepticon Rumble" transforms into a blue compact car of made-up model with red windows. He comes with a pair of pile driver weapons with sculpted, non-firing cannon barrels at the ends. These weapons can peg via [[5mm post]] onto the rear sides of the vehicle and the backs of his robot shoulders, or they can be held by his hands, with the weapons covering most of his hands and looking like integrated weaponry. Additionally, the weapons themselves each feature a peg-hole underneath their barrel ends. He also has a "dramatic head reveal," wherein his head springs out from within his torso when said torso is opened during transformation.

: In wave six of the ''Prime'' toyline, Rumble was put into new packaging, which came with a DVD featuring the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)| Prime]]'' episode, "[[Loose Cannons]]".

: The Hasbro [[stock photography]] for this toy depicts blue [[paint operation]]s on his pile drivers that are absent from the final product.

: Rumble's [[TakaraTomy]] release, part of the tenth assortment of ''Prime'' toys in Japan, uses the mold's alternate head, as well as light blue plastic for his biceps, thighs and feet instead of the Hasbro version's black. He loses many of his detail-based [[paint operation]]s in favor of customer-applied [[sticker]]s. Instead of the the twin pile-driver weapons, he comes with a single [[Arms Micron]] partner, a robotic octopus that transforms into something resembling the [[Hasbro]] version's pile drivers.

: This mold was also used to make [[Frenzy (Prime)#Toys|Frenzy]].

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===Generations===
*'''Decepticon Rumble and Ravage''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2013)
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==Notes==
*Rumble and Frenzy are described as communicating in coded beeps in ''Exodus'', but we are told that they can speak normally when they choose to.

===Foreign names===
*''Russian:'' '''Gromila''' (Громила, "Thug")

[[Category:Fall of Cybertron Decepticons]]
[[Category:Prime Decepticons]]
[[Category:Spies]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Mini-Cons]]

Vaults

2012-10-15T21:32:04Z

192.249.47.177: /* War for Cybertron */ uuuuuuurgh

{{Picsneeded|Screenshot(s) from War For Cybertron}}
:''The Vaults is a building on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:The Ultimate Guide High Council Pavilions.jpg|right|250px|right|thumb]]
The '''Vaults''' are [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]]'s archives, located in the [[High Council Pavilions]]. Data from all over [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] is collected there, analyzed and sorted by the archivists, stored onto "cassettes" and finally put away by [[Diagnostic Drone]]s for future use.

==Fiction==
===Generation 1===
====Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity====
About 8.2 million years ago, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optronix]] used to work as data archivist at the Vaults. At the time of the fall of [[Altihex]], he was visited at work by his friend [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]], who had recently joined the [[Autobot]] army. Bluestreak went on about the stories surrounding the death of [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]] and rise of [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] until Optronix pointed out that those stories were demonstrably exaggerated if not plain false, that in either case he as archivist had already heard it all before Bluestreak even had walked in, and that he was busy. Bluestreak was lightly baffled by this reaction, but conceded that someone like Optronix, who stayed far away from the combat to handle anonymous data, was not likely to understand the severity of the recent [[Great War (G1)|civil conflict]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 1|The War Within #1}}

===Aligned===
====War for Cybertron====
[[Image:WFC Megatron Vs ZetaPrime.jpg|thumb|right|300px|"Ya wanna piece of me?!"]]
{{quote|Come no further, Megatron!. The sacred Vaults are no place for your tainted spark.|Zeta Prime tries to warn Megatron off, for all the good that does...|''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]]''}}

Arriving in front of the gates to the Vaults, where [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]] had taken the [[Omega Key]], [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] tried to force the doors open the usual way by infusing them with [[Dark Energon]]. They didn't budge, but instead [[Stellar Galleries|another]] hologram of Zeta Prime appeared. The [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] claimed he would consider sparing Megatron's life if he'd surrender now, but Megatron declined, ordering for the Decepticon airforce to come in and blow open the gate.

Once inside, another hologram of Zeta Prime popped up to give another "Desist or die!" speech which Megatron again ignored. A little further into the building, Megatron and his unit found a stray Decepticon and were witness to his execution by the primary security measure in the Vaults: ceiling stompers. Kindly though, whenever they were about to come down the targeted piece of floor lit up, so the Decepticons had an edge to reach the chamber in which Zeta Prime had holed himself up. Megatron almost could lay his hands on the Omega Key, but Zeta Prime thwarted his plans a last time by taking the key under a forcefield in the center of the room from which he could safely control the entire chamber. Using ceiling stompers and Energon clones, Zeta Prime had the advantage until he needed to recharge the equipment, leaving it vulnerable. The Decepticons immediately took him out, and Megatron finally laid claim on the Omega Key, ripping it out of a dying Zeta Prime. Yet, as he lay dying, Zeta Prime notified Megatron that there was [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|one little catch to the usage of the key...]]

Following the acquisition of the key and the activation of the [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge|Energon Bridge]], Megatron used the orbital gun platform known as [[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon]] to target Autobot settlements on Cybertron, one of which included Zeta Prime's Vaults. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

====''Prime'' cartoon====
The Iacon Vaults were a place that stored numerous Cybertronian relics, such as the [[Forge of Solus Prime]]. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 2}} During ancient times, Orion Pax was known to have worked at the Vaults of Iacon as an archivist. During the Great War, numerous class-A weapons were confiscated from the Decepticons and stored within the Vaults, which included a [[force field generator]] and the [[Spark extractor|Spark Extractor]]. When Iacon fell to Megatron, all the items within the Vault were tagged with an Iacon homing beacon and launched into space by [[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]], who had [[Covenant of Primus|foreseen]] that [[Earth]] would be a vital battlefield and Optimus would need the artifacts. {{storylink|Alpha/Omega}} Unfortunately, Megatron managed to uncover their location through the use of [[Project Iacon]]. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 1}}

The Decepticons had the Spark Extractor snatched from them by the Autobots, but succeeded in retrieving the force field generator {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 1}} and the [[Forge of Solus Prime]]. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 2}} More coordinates, decoded by the ''[[Trypticon (Prime)|Nemesis]]'' itself, led the Autobots and Decepticons to find a [[phase shifter]], {{storylink|Tunnel Vision}} the [[Apex Armor (Prime)|Apex Armor]], {{storylink|Triangulation}} the [[Resonance Blaster]], {{storylink|Triage}} a cache of [[Tox-En]], {{storylink|Toxicity}} the [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]], {{storylink|Legacy}} and the [[Omega Key]]s. {{storylink|Alpha/Omega}}

[[Category:Archives on Cybertron]]
[[Category:Generation 1 locations]]
[[Category:Iacon]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron locations]]

Inside Job

2012-10-15T21:27:16Z

192.249.47.177: even the toy is just the car with wings, dood

{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' ep 49
|prev=Hard Knocks
|next=Patch (episode)
|image=InsideJobKnockOutSmokescreen.jpg
|caption=Having fun, Knock Out?
|title="Inside Job"
|airdate=[[October 12]], [[2012]]
|written by=[[Bob Skir|Robert N. Skir]]
|directed by=[[Scooter Tidwell]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
}}

'''When Smokescreen is captured, he learns the location of the Omega Key and attempts to retrieve all the other stolen keys.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] recovers consciousness to find himself on a slab in the [[Trypticon (Prime)|Decepticon warship]] with [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] standing over him. [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] demands the final relic, pointing out [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]]'s work decrypting the Iacon database has revealed an image of Smokescreen, but Smokescreen is merely confused as to what it means. Knock Out scans the [[Autobot]], and finds the last relic is hidden inside.

The other Autobots, meanwhile, realize that the Decepticons must have decoded the last coordinates and speculate that Smokescreen holds the [[Omega Key]] inside him, largely due to being installed within him while unconscious by [[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]].

Knock Out advances on the alarmed Smokescreen with a rotary saw, only to reveal he's actually going to use the [[phase shifter]] to do the operation. He reaches inside Smokescreen and soon has the Omega Key in hand. Smokescreen refuses to tell the Decepticons what the Omega Keys are, but Megatron has ways of finding out.

[[Image:InsideJobStarscream.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Cue evil laugh in 3, 2, 1...]]
[[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] ruminates on the one Omega Key he possesses, while talking to his [[Starscream clone (Prime)|dead clone]]. Imagining himself in charge of a reborn [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], he quickly realizes that he doesn't have the resources he would need to rule it.

Megatron listens in on Prime's briefing about the Omega Keys, thanks to a [[cortical psychic patch]] hooked up to Smokescreen. Once they've learned all they need, Knock Out unplugs the pair and Megatron orders Knock Out to use the patch to find the location of the [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|Autobot base]] so they can retrieve the other Omega Keys. After Megatron leaves to put their new key in a safe place, Knock Out moves in, only for Smokescreen to grab the phase shifter attached to his wrist and uses it to free himself. The pair grapple until Smokescreen manages to pull the device from his opponent's wrist, leaving Knock Out embedded in a bulkhead. Though Knock Out points out Smokescreen has no means of escape from the ship, Smokescreen has plans of his own. Through use of the phase shifter, he manages to catch up with Megatron near the storage area, where he snatches back the Omega Key and takes the one in storage as well. The Decepticons attempt to stop him, but their firepower passes straight through him. He eventually reaches the outer hull, only to be confronted by Megatron. With no other choice, the Autobot bails the ship.

At the Autobot base, [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] picks up Smokescreen's signal, but has trouble locking on due to the fact that Smokescreen is plummeting through the air. Harried by [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]], Smokescreen drops towards the [[GroundBridge]] Ratchet opens, only to be knocked off-course by Megatron. He uses the phase shifter to pass through the ground. Moments later, Megatron lands and demands his subordinates search the wreckage. Smokescreen bridges back to base, where the Autobots congratulate him, but wonder where the fourth key is. Their query is answered a moment later when they get a message from Starscream offering the key in return for the replacement of his [[transformation cog|T-Cog]]. Having considered it, [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] decides it's too important to not take Starscream up on his offer.

Optimus, Ratchet and [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] bridge to a forested location and approach Starscream, only to find him apparently dead. It is, of course, just the dead clone, as the real Starscream uses his [[Red Energon]] to nip through the GroundBridge into the Autobot base. Moving too fast to be seen, he is tempted at first to finish off the slow-moving Autobots, but goes back to finding the Omega Keys first. The Autobots in the field realize they've been deceived just as Starscream blows open the vault holding the keys. Though Optimus orders [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] to close the GroundBridge, it is too slow to prevent Starscream from escaping the base. He stops to mock Optimus, Ratchet and Bulkhead, only for the Red Energon to wear off right at the worst possible moment. After firing a missile at the Autobots, he frantically opens his own GroundBridge and escapes back to the ''[[Harbinger]]'', much to Optimus's despair. Though Bulkhead and Ratchet believe they can get the keys back Optimus grimly announces the fate of Cybertron is now in Starscream's hands.

[[Image:InsideJobKnockOut.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Well, this is awkward.]]
Despite Knock Out's pleas, Megatron refuses to release him from the wall. Megatron and [[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]] return to the bridge, where they find Starscream who has come with a peace offering of all four Omega Keys.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] (2)
*[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] (5)
*[[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] (6)
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] (7)
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] (8)
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] (9)

|c2=
*[[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] (1)
*[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] (3)
*[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] (4)
*[[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] (10)
*[[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] (11)
*[[Insecticon (Prime)|Insecticon]] (12)
*[[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]] (13)
*[[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]] (14)

}}

==Quotes==
"Trippy."
:—'''Knock Out''' thinks the phase shifter is like, totally groovy, man.

"Get your stinkin' hand out of my gears!"
:—'''Smokescreen''' obviously doesn't like operations.

"Tell me the function of these relics." 
"Door stop, shavers, bling? Beats me."
:—'''Megatron''' asks a question and '''Smokescreen''' gives a vague answer.

"How easy it would be to gut you [Arcee]... to gut all of you."
:—Well, '''Starscream's''' already making plans.

"Autobots, maintain positions!" (said in '''very''' slow motion) 
"I'm sorry, what was that? Mblemblemble!"
:—'''Starscream''' uses the power of [[Red Energon]] to taunt '''Optimus'''.

"We ''will'' locate the Autobot base, invade it, and retrieve the Omega Keys!" 
"Been there, done that."
:—'''Starscream''' steals '''Megatron''''s thunder.

==Notes==
[[Image:TFP Inside Job Starscream fistful of keys.jpg|thumb||250px|Beware Starscream bearing gifts...]]

===Animation and technical errors===
*Megatron's vehicle mode still has his fusion cannon, despite the arm it was attached to being removed. Furthermore, if one watches Megatron's transformation scene, it's blocked off by smoke, making it impossible to see what exactly happens with his fusion cannon and his different arm.
*Smokescreen's momentum suddenly disappears upon phasing through the ground. Based on where he exits, he couldn't have landed much lower than the Vehicons did. Speaking of momentum, how exactly were the Autobots planning to catch Smokescreen when he came out of the GroundBridge at terminal velocity? Maybe it's part of the "intuitiveness" that allows for not phasing through floors and simultaneously reaching through objects and grabbing parts of them/items inside them?
*An early external shot of the ''[[Trypticon_(Prime)|Nemesis]]'' has its "eyes" and running lights illuminated in [[Dark Energon]] purple; later in the episode they are their normal red.

===Continuity errors===
*Given how easy it was for the Decepticons to locate the Omega Key within Smokescreen, it seems odd that the Autobots would not have made the same discovery long before now. Surely at least a basic medical workup would have been conducted upon him joining the team to check for any irregularities.

*The bots in Smokescreen's memory are in different places than in "Alpha/Omega". In that episode, Smokescreen and Rachet are on Optimus' right side, and Arcee, Bulkhead and Bumblebee are on his left. In this episode, Bulkhead and Rachet are on his right, Bee is in the middle, and Arcee and Smokescreen are on his left.

===Continuity notes===
*This episode continues from [[Hard Knocks|the previous one]], starting not long after Smokescreen's capture and subsequent restraint.
*The [[cortical psychic patch]] is used to extract information from Smokescreen, having been used previously in "[[Sick Mind]]" and "[[Out of the Past]]".
*The scene which Megatron watches in Smokescreen's mind is from "[[Alpha/Omega]]".
*Starscream lists off numerous items he's acquired or stolen in previous episodes; the Omega Key from "Hard Knocks", the processed Red Energon (which he acquired in "[[New Recruit]]" and refined in "Hard Knocks"), his GroundBridge remote first seen in "[[Triangulation]]", his murdered clone from "[[Armada (episode)|Armada]]", and the T-cog he scavenged from said clone in "Triangulation".
*Starscream previously referred to himself as an "[[Emperor of Destruction]]" in "[[Masters & Students]]".
*Ratchet recalls Starscream's lack of a T-cog, which he learned about in "[[Crossfire]]". Starscream lost his in "[[Operation Bumblebee, Part 2]]".
*Starscream still seems to be holding a grudge against Arcee from the events of "[[Partners]]", given his comments about gutting the Autobots start with her.
*While Starscream is looking for the Omega Keys in the Autobots' Vault, he comes across [[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]] in stasis, which occurred back in "[[Armada (episode)|Armada]]".
*This is the second time that Megatron abandons one of his own soldiers as a form of punishment. The first was Breakdown in "[[Operation: Breakdown]]", whom was rescued by Bulkhead and allowed back.
*Even though the [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]] was destroyed in "Alpha/Omega", Optimus still wears the hilt Ratchet made him.

===Transformers references===
* One of Starscream's self-proclaimed titles as the new ruler of Cybertron is "[[Emperor of Destruction]]". He also refers to himself as Cybertron's [[Overlord (rank)|Overlord]], which originated in the Marvel UK story [[State Games]] as the pre-war rulers of Cybertron.
*This marks the [[Retreat|second time]] that a [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] managed to successfully steal three important planetary [[Cyber Planet Key|keys]] from the Autobots.

===Real-world references===
*A brain pan is real. Scientists use it to study brains of corpses without the confines of a skull.
*Arcee uses the human phrase of sounding like a broken record.

===Trivia===
*This episode explains why the phase shifter doesn't phase the user through everything, neatly tying up the issues of how it can be used with such versatility.
*While in Smokescreen's mind, Megatron's avatar has his own arm rather than the Prime's arm that he's since attached.
*This is the third episode in a row where no humans appear, the first episode in the series where we get to hear Optimus scream in frustration, and the first episode since "[[Darkness Rising, Part 1]]" to show a Vehicon in automobile mode.
*Both Optimus and Megatron scream at the loss of the Omega Keys.
*Looks like Bulkhead finally gets to see Optimus "[[One Shall Fall|lose his cool]]."
*It would seem Megatron cannot tell which of his own soldiers are fliers or ground troopers. Then again, there's not much difference in appearance.

[[Category:Prime episodes]]

Hard Knocks

2012-10-15T14:23:58Z

192.249.47.177: doesn't fit

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|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' ep 48
|prev=Alpha/Omega
|next=Inside Job
|image=HardKnocksKnockOut.jpg
|caption=Look out, Cosmo, it's Superbike!
|title="Hard Knocks"
|airdate=[[October 5]], [[2012]]
|written by=[[Mairghread Scott]]
|directed by=[[Vinton Heuck]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
}}

'''As the race grows more desperate, Knock Out harnesses the power of sound while Starscream gains the power of hyper speed.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] is still hard at work decoding coordinates, while [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] boasts about his defeat of Optimus. Soundwave soon comes up with another set of coordinates, and [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] insists on going. Though Megatron is skeptical, recalling [[Tunnel Vision|the last time]] the doctor tried to obtain a relic, Knock Out insists he won't fail this time, and borrows Soundwave's [[Resonance Blaster]].

In the [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|Autobot base]], [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] is likewise decoding coordinates. [[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] annoys everyone by boasting it is his destiny to be a great warrior and being generally exuberant. To his disappointment, when Optimus decodes a set of coordinates, [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] and [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] are the ones selected to go on the mission, and he is left at base. Arcee and Bumblebee arrive at a lakeside and spy the second [[Omega Key]] sitting out in the open, but Knock Out is already there, waiting. Using the Resonance Blaster, both Autobots are sent flying and when they try to flank the Decepticon, he shoots it at the ground, raising a cloud of dust so he can use it as cover to zap them. By the time Arcee and Bumblebee recover, Knock Out is long gone with the key.

[[Image:HardKnocksDreadwing.jpg|thumb|right|250px|I know what you're going to ask me: Where do I keep all those bombs?... Don't ask.]]
[[Image:HardKnocksBumblebee.jpg|thumb|left|250px|[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|I'm not taking you with me.]]]]
Back on the ''[[Trypticon (Prime)|Nemesis]]'', Megatron inspects the relic and wonders if it is a decoy, though Knock Out protests the Autobots fought too desperately for it. Soundwave decodes more coordinates which Megatron believes will provide them with more answers, but when Knock Out declares to investigate, Megatron instead gives him the task of analyzing the key and its purpose. Meanwhile, Bumblebee undergoes repairs, and Smokescreen's swagger continues to get on Arcee's nerves so she goes to find some peace and quiet. Bulkhead reminds Smokescreen that the war has been going on a long time and he needs to have patience to work as a team player.

[[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] has finished refining his [[Red Energon]], but finding it slow work and with only a small yield of a one-time use. Luckily the ''[[Harbinger]]'' computer picks up more Decepticon activity, and Starscream decides he can use the Red Energon to obtain a more valuable artifact.

The Autobots gain a new set of coordinates, and Bulkhead and Smokescreen roll out, though Arcee reminds Bulkhead to keep an eye on their eager comrade. The pair arrive on a forested mountainside where [[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]] is waiting. The Decepticon knocks them flat before flying off, and the two Autobots realize that Dreadwing has mined the trees... '''all''' of the trees. They manage to outrun the explosions, and Bulkhead sends Smokescreen after the relic while he goads Dreadwing into a fight. As they exchange blows, Dreadwing plants a bomb on Bulkhead's back, and after Bulkhead manages to knock him flat, sets it to explode. Unfortunately for Dreadwing, Bulkhead already noticed the bomb and transferred it to his back during the fight, and though Dreadwing throws the bomb away, it goes off close enough to knock him out.

[[Image:HardKnocksBulkheadDreadwing.jpg|thumb|right|250px|FATALITY.]]
Smokescreen meanwhile uncovers the Omega Key, only to be rendered unconscious by a blow from behind. When Bulkhead wakes him, the key is already gone. Smokescreen is deflated by his failure, but as they return through the [[GroundBridge]], Bulkhead reminds him that they need all four keys to revive [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Starscream, hiding nearby with the key he grabbed, overhears them talking, and regards the key he holds with new respect and ambition.

Back at base, Smokescreen exclaims his inability of securing the key and Arcee lectures him on realistic expectations and tells him he needs to be a team player. Upset, Smokescreen leaves the base and Optimus, saying the young Autobot needs to clear his head, returns to decoding coordinates. On the ''Nemesis'', Megatron is unhappy at Dreadwing's failure, and checks with Soundwave regarding the project to find where the Autobot base is located. Soundwave reports that he has [[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]] scouting around [[Jasper]]. As both sides complete their decoding work, the final set of coordinates resolve into an image—a picture of Smokescreen himself, to both sides' surprise. Unfortunately when Optimus tries to call in Smokescreen, the rookie does not answer due to deactivating his comlink, and has instead fallen into Laserbeak's sights. Laserbeak fires on Smokescreen, who transforms to confront the drone, only to be knocked flat by Soundwave's Resonance Blaster. When the Autobots arrive at the location, they are just in time to see Soundwave dragging their unconscious friend back to the ''Nemesis'' through the Decepticon GroundBridge.

==Featured characters==
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*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] (4)
*[[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] (5)
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] (6)
*[[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] (7)
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] (8)
*[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] (9)
|c2=
*[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] (1)
*[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] (2)
*[[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] (3)
*[[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]] (11)
*[[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]] (12)
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*[[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] (10)
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==Quotes==
"Last one to the Omega Key has to scrub the Energon tanks for a week." 
"Didn't know we were keeping score."
:—'''Smokescreen''' and '''Arcee'''

"Who knew that ''sound waves'' could be such a ''knock out''?"
:—See what '''Knock Out''' did there?

"Sub-woofer? Or depth-charge?"
:—'''Knock Out''' is just full of name-dropping goodness today!

"Make sure you keep an eye on 'destiny's child', okay?" 
"Compared to watching Miko? Piece of cake!"
:—'''Arcee''' giving '''Bulkhead''' some advice on handling the rookie.

"You love doing your dirty work from a distance, don't ya? Too bad you don't have the ball bearings to fight up close and personal!" 
"In this particular case, I would be all too happy to make an exception."
:—'''Bulkhead''' gives '''Dreadwing''' some smack talk.

"What is that?" 
"One of the the last sounds that you will ever hear!"
:—'''Smokescreen''' gets his question answered by '''Dreadwing'''

==Notes==
===Animation and technical errors===

===Continuity notes===
* Megatron brags about his accomplishments in [[Alpha/Omega|the previous episode]] to Soundwave.
* Megatron loosely refers to the events of "[[Tunnel Vision]]" while expressing surprise at Knock Out's willingness to get his hands dirty in light of what happened the last time, as well as more directly in his failure to obtain the [[phase shifter]].
* Optimus still has the improvised sword-holder Ratchet made for him in the previous episode.
* Knock Out and Soundwave both use the [[Resonance Blaster]], which Soundwave retrieved in "[[Triage]]".
* Starscream has refined the [[Red Energon]] he obtained in "[[New Recruit]]", though it's only enough to last for one use. ''Maybe two.'' He also remembers the loss of the [[Apex Armor (Prime)|Apex Armor]] in the same episode.
* Dreadwing reminds Bulkhead of their previous battle in "[[Loose Cannons]]".
* Megatron mentions that recent events have allowed them to narrow down the location of the Autobots' human allies, most likely referring to their discovery of [[Raf Esquivel|Raf's]] house in "[[The Human Factor]]".

===Transformers references===
* Knock Out hopes that the new relic is an [[electro-disrupter]] cannon.
* The concept of an Autobot being the Omega Key comes from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games) | War for Cybertron]] game, only with [[Omega Supreme (WFC) | Omega Supreme]] being the Autobot instead of Smokescreen.

===Real-world references===
* "Slow and Steady Wins the Race," is the famous moral in Aesop's most well known story: The Tortoise and the Hare.

===Trivia===
* Knock Out and Dreadwing both had the opportunity to take their assigned relics and leave, but stuck around to fight the Autobots. Dreadwing in particular must have spent hours placing bombs on all those trees.
* Unlike the other Energon variants, no side-effects are seen with the use of refined Red Energon... so far.
* Megatron sends three different Decepticons to do his dirty work in one episode. They must be taking shifts.

[[Category:Prime episodes]]

User talk:Abates

2012-10-13T19:34:29Z

192.249.47.177: /* Vandal */ new section

<div style="float: right; width: 33%">
{{chapters
|title=User talk archives
|content=*[[/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
*[[/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
}}</div>
==To-Do List==
===Operation: Screen Captures===
Screen cap (re)tagging:
*<s>[[:Category:Generation 1 screen captures|G1]]</s>
*<s>[[:Category:The Headmasters screen captures|Headmasters]]</s>/[[:Category:Super-God Masterforce screen captures|Masterforce]]/<s>[[:Category:Victory screen captures|Victory]]</s>/<s>[[:Category:Zone screen captures|Zone]]</s>
*<s>[[:Category:Beast Wars screen captures|Beast Wars]]</s>/<s>[[:Category:Beast Machines screen captures|Beast Machines]]</s>
*<s>[[:Category:Robots in Disguise screen captures|Robots in Disguise]]</s>
*<s>[[:Category:Armada screen captures|Armada]]</s>/[[:Category:Energon screen captures|Energon]]/<s>[[:Category:Cybertron screen captures|Cybertron]]</s>
*<s>[[:Category:Animated screen captures|Animated]]</s>
====Pictures of unidentified origin====
I don't know which episodes these are from - feel free to tag them with {{tl|MFcap}} or {{tl|Energoncap}} if you know!
<gallery>
Image:Diver suiton.jpg|Diver from Masterforce
Image:EnergonGeneric.jpg|Some dude from Energon
</gallery>

==Headmaster episode images==
Hey, did you accidentally skip over "[[The Dormant Volcano Mysteriously Erupts]]"? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 04:34, 10 January 2012 (EST)
:I did watch it. I must have just forgotten to upload some screencaps for that page. I'll pick some out tomorrow! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:12, 10 January 2012 (EST)

==Outside linking==
Abates, how do I tell if an image or redirect has an outside/off-site link pointing to it? I want to delete <nowiki>[[:Image:LiveActionJazz-Skywarp01.jpg|this]]</nowiki>, but it's pretty old, so I don't know if there might be any links to it. (Probably want to keep the talk page, tho.) --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 20:13, 20 January 2012 (EST)
:I used to use Yahoo siteexplorer to find links to pages, but Yahoo shut it down now because they're using Bing's database. Now I generally just google the url or just the article/image name to try and find links to it, which isn't ideal. I can't find any to that particular image, anyway! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:24, 20 January 2012 (EST)

== Daniel ==

Oh my god finally! Do you know how long I've been staring at that Headmasters section, telling myself that I really need to write it up over and over again because no other bastard was ever going to punish themselves that much and yet never being able to will myself into it? AND even though he's in like every damn episode it's still a super-concise write-up that isn't stupid-long and over-detailed like a lot of more recent characters suffer from! My hat, sir! It is off! To you! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:10, 23 January 2012 (EST)
:Thanks! Nice to know I wasn't the only one bugged by that empty cartoon section. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:51, 23 January 2012 (EST)

==A silly favor==
Hey, could you fill out the articles for [[Tlalak]] and [[Brobdingnag]] (plus [[Aagar]] and [[Chief Lanarqan]], I guess)? It's been bugging me that all of the other G1 cartoon planets except those have filled-out articles. I would do it, but I don't really have access to any of the G1 episodes with captions. Sorry if this comes off as too forward! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:21, 20 February 2012 (EST)
:Oh yeah, I can do that! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:31, 20 February 2012 (EST)
::Thank ye! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:04, 20 February 2012 (EST)

== Image ==

excuse me, why did you delete a lot of my image? {{unsigned|Shockwave1704‎}}
:Apparently you did not read your talk page. There are multiple issues with the images you have been uploading and you need to read [[Transformers Wiki:Images|this page here]] which explains that images need to have non-generic names - you uploaded an image called "jolt.jpg", but there are [[Jolt (disambiguation)|six different characters named Jolt]]. You must also provide a proper description and copyright templates for each image. Uploading them with no description is not helpful - you uploaded [[:Image:Thundercracker robot.jpg|this picture of Thundercracker]] without saying which issue it was from or who drew it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:31, 12 March 2012 (EDT)

but you haven't deleted my thundercracker's photo and i wanted to change the name jolt[[user:Shockwave1704]]

i read my talk but the translation in Italian is terrible and i don't understand it[[user:Shockwave1704]]
:I'm sorry I don't speak Italian, and I think you may find it difficult to edit here if you can't understand the rules of the site. Communication is very important on a wiki. :( Normally I hate to refer people to other sites, but have you considered working on the [http://it.transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_Wiki Italian Transformers wiki]? I see it is only very small at the moment and needs a lot of help. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:57, 12 March 2012 (EDT)

Thank you friend. [[user:Shockwave1704]]

can you check if my new page are good?[[user:Shockwave1704]]

[[Renzo Stacchi]]

[[Alessandro Rossi]]

[[Dario Penne]]

there isn't a longarm(dotm) page --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 08:37, 16 March 2012 (EDT)
:Isn't the Dark of the Moon Longarm just [[Longarm (Movie)]]? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:07, 16 March 2012 (EDT)

yes, i've got some photo of IDW transformers longarm, but there is a problem dialogs are in Italian not in English --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 10:20, 16 March 2012 (EDT)

== Did somebody ask for Rescue Bots subtitles? ==

Saw what you said about [[The Natives of Tatui]]. I got all Rescue Bots episodes (as well as all the Prime episodes) recorded thus far, and so I have access to the closed captions. If ya need any help with spellings from either, let me know. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 13:14, 16 March 2012 (EDT)
:Oh, awesome, thanks! Can you check the spelling on [[Edgar Prewett|Edgar Pruitt]]'s last name please? And probably [[Bufkin|Buffkin]]'s name too. They're both from phone calls Chief Burns takes around the middle of the episode. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:21, 16 March 2012 (EDT)
::CCs spell them as "Mr. Bufkin" and "Mrs. Prewett". Other townspeople names from the episode are spelled "Mr. Perkins", "Milo", "Mrs. Niederlander", and "Mr. Pettypaws" (her cat). And, the spelling for device Cody got in the Flobsters episode is "Comtab" (or maybe "ComTab"? It's spelled as one word, but the CC letters are in All Caps, making it difficult to tell what should and shouldn't be capitalized). --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 09:32, 18 March 2012 (EDT)
:::Awesome, thanks! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:09, 18 March 2012 (EDT)

== the heart ==

why is there a heart next to your name it was not there when you put stuff on my page last year {{unsigned|Jacktransformerdude}}
:[[User:Derik|Derik]] decided to mark all the admins by putting hearts next to their names. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:31, 19 March 2012 (EDT)

thanks for telling me that and whats an admin {{unsigned|Jacktransformerdude}}
:Admins are users with extra powers, like being able to delete articles. BTW, when writing messages on talk pages, please use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to sign your messages (There's a button second from the right above the edit window that puts it in for you). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:17, 19 March 2012 (EDT)

[[User:Jacktransformerdude|Jacktransformerdude]] 01:22, 19 March 2012 (EDT)thanks i did not know how to sign now i do

== Transformers 4 ==

michael bay signed a contract to make a transformers 4 he said it will hit theaters june 29 2014 [[User:Jacktransformerdude|Jacktransformerdude]] 01:34, 19 March 2012 (EDT)

should i make a page for it [[User:Jacktransformerdude|Jacktransformerdude]] 01:35, 19 March 2012 (EDT)
: Not until you learn how to format your English properly. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:36, 19 March 2012 (EDT)
::hahaha very funny what do you mean. btw why is the f-bomb on your page? i read you cant put the f-bomb [[User:Jacktransformerdude|Jacktransformerdude]] 01:42, 19 March 2012 (EDT)
:::From the [[Transformers Wiki:Policies]] page: "Language '''always inappropriate''' for articles includes (Includes—but is not limited to!) the [[Wikipedia:fuck|f-bomb]], the [[Wikipedia:cunt|c-bomb]], and their derivatives. The above applies to '''articles only'''. Talk pages, user pages, etc., not being intended for general viewing, have no language restrictions. But please, at least ''try'' to be civil with one another." Note the second sentence. The language guidelines only apply to articles, not user pages or talk pages. Please take note of how I have reformatted your response by adding colons (the : symbol) to produce indentations. The more colons, the more indented the text becomes. Indenting your responses helps us to keep track of the flow of conversation. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:10, 19 March 2012 (EDT)

== Kuruk Hades1995 ==
What in the world of transformers, Abates?! I put that comment on Nemesis Prime (episode) because Miko is the first character ever called the imposter by his name. Why did you remove it? {{unsigned|Kuruk Hades1995‎}}
:Huh? I didn't remove it. Check the page history. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:34, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

== Transformers: Prime episode titles ==
Hey abates, where do you get the episode titles from? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 20:56, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:I usually say when I add them, but generally from one of the websites which carry TV schedules - msn.com, zap2it.com and tvguide.com mainly. In the case of the last two episodes, they were from zap2it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:02, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

==Robots in Disguise==
Robots in Disguise #4 is rumored to be released on April 29th. {{unsigned|Ed}}
:Uh, OK? We don't use rumours on this wiki. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:10, 16 April 2012 (EDT)
==Life After the Big Bang==
Can you help me get every bot's article page to this issue? Example: First Aid's page does not mention anything about the recent comic issue. {{unsigned|Ed}}
:Sorry, I can't - I don't own any of the issues in question. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:51, 19 April 2012 (EDT)
==Trypticon==
I've got the Nemesis section edited for the Armada episode. Plus, I watched it. Ed

==Present tense==
Ok. I'm trying to work on the tense. {{unsigned|Ed}}

==Google+==
I'd suggest Tfwiki.net gets a Google + account to increase our popularity. Just saying. Ed
:Doesn't Google+ require you to use your real name? I don't think, under those rules, anyone could create an account named "TFWiki.net". --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:44, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
::Not anymore, I don't think. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:30, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
:::You can create a page for the wiki, which is different from a profile, so you don't need a real name. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 18:18, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
::::Oh, OK. I guess it would still be up to someone with a google+ account to do though. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:34, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
:::::Doing it now. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 18:49, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
::::::Here it is :) https://plus.google.com/b/106006102124340784739/ -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 20:22, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
:::::::Groovy. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:27, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
::::::::Thank you. Now we need somebody to edit the main page to put the link there with the Facebook and Twitter and whatever the other thing is. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 20:35, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
:::::::::You probably need to ask [[User:Derik|Derik]] about that. He did the current graphic there. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:55, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
::::::::::Thanks, I will. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 20:57, 30 April 2012 (EDT)

== Cow & Chicken ==

I had no Idea you remember ''Cow & Chicken'' Was that a favorite of yours?[[User:SirSpoonwave|SirSpoonwave]] 03:50, 24 May 2012 (EDT)
:Sorry, never seen it. I just looked up the quote on IMDB. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:59, 24 May 2012 (EDT)
==Question==
How come tfwiki.net shuts down for long periods of time occasionally. Ed
:It was under heavy load. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:50, 29 May 2012 (EDT)
::Um... what kind? Ed
:::Like lots of people all trying to visit the site at once. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:21, 29 May 2012 (EDT)
::::Sorry for rushing through the articles but nobody seems to want to keep them up to date. Anyway, is Transformers Prime releasing any more episodes? I checked yesterday and they were doing highlights of previous episodes. Ed
:::::No new Prime episodes have appeared on the schedules as of yet. I imagine they'll wait a while so they can build up a buffer and play the rest of the season in one run like they did with the first half. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:44, 3 June 2012 (EDT)

==Merely saying==
How come the IDW sections are usually the least updated? Everything else is updated occasionally like when Transformers Prime releases a new episode, everything is updated instantly the next day but when a new IDW comic comes out, nobody updates everything even within a week? Some articles are still behind. I'm merely asking this and don't mean it in any offensive way. Schools Out! Scream and Shout! Ed
:It's a wiki - people will update it in their own time. I think there aren't as many people reading the IDW comics as there are watching the cartoon too. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:30, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
::Yeah, the Wiki's really more about the quality of information than how quickly it's updated. And considering how arc-y the writing of the ongoings is, often it's better to wait until after an arc is over before adding a summary because what was once believed may not have been as it seems. Life After The Big Bang and How Ratchet Got His Hands Back pretty much demonstrate that. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:01, 7 June 2012 (EDT)

== ''Prime'' game ==
Can [[Transformers Prime: The Game]] get semi-protected? I don't think anybody's done anything bad to it yet, but every other game article I see on here is. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 17:07, 7 June 2012 (EDT)
:We generally only protect them if there's a history of anons vandalising them. I think we can afford to wait and see on that one. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:15, 7 June 2012 (EDT)
::Ok, thanks. :) -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]]

On a different note, how about putting it in the Nav bar? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 14:05, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
:That's something that should probably be discussed on the Community Portal first. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:27, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

When you get a chance, could you get screencaps of [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]], [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]], and [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] from the trailer and upload them? Because my computer takes horrible screenshots. The ones I already uploaded were from Google Images. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 17:00, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
:Sure, I'll give it a try later on. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:55, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
::Thanks. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 17:57, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
:::And I apologize if I seem like I'm getting annoying with this game, but I do have one more question. How do I make a template like <nowiki>{{Primecap}}</nowiki> for it? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 18:00, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
::::Oh, No worries. Your best bet is to copy from another template in [[:Category:Video game screen capture templates]]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:13, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
:::::Is <nowiki>{{PGcap}}</nowiki> a good name? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 18:33, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
::::::Well, if you follow the precedent set by TFATGcap (Transformers Animated The Game) it'd be TFPTGcap, I guess. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:48, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
:::::::Thanks for those screenshots :) -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 12:35, 17 June 2012 (EDT)

== Template:IDWliveactionfilmcover/franchise ==

You didn't look to see what {{tl|IDWliveactionfilmcover/franchise}} ''actually did'' before you made [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Template:IDWliveactionfilmcover/franchise&diff=prev&oldid=721341 this change], did you? This part of the {{tl|IDWliveactionfilmcover}}:
<pre>{{#if:{{{nocategory|}}} ||<includeonly>[[Category:{{#if:{{IDWliveactionfilmcover/franchise|{{{franchise}}}|series={{{series|}}}}}|IDW {{IDWliveactionfilmcover/franchise|{{{franchise}}}|series={{{series|}}}}} comic covers|IDW live-action film series covers}}|{{IDWliveactionfilmcover/seriesname|{{{series}}}}}{{{issueno|}}}{{{cover|}}}]]</includeonly>}}</pre>

...along with a similar bit in {{tl|IDWliveactionfilminterior}}, meant you shunted ALL the images categorised by the template from RotF & DotM from <nowiki>[[Category:IDW (franchise) comic covers/interior images]] into non-existent [[Category:IDW Transformers: (franchise) comic covers/interior images]]</nowiki> categories. I had to introduce another metatemplate ({{tl|IDWliveactionfilmcover/category}} to fix that, which means more to fix when TF4 comes around. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 09:31, 3 July 2012 (EDT)
:Aw, shoot, sorry! I did try to trace what it was doing in the template at the time. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:39, 3 July 2012 (EDT)
::Okay. I just spent a ''lot'' of time a couple of months back trying to sort the tangled mess the IDW covers had got into, and it was annoying to log in for the first time in a while and see that had happened :) - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 20:23, 7 July 2012 (EDT)

== Quotes List ==

Since you enjoy those Quotes from Cow & Chicken, there are happen to be more from what I found.
[http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Cow_and_Chicken]

Enjoy.[[User:SirSpoonwave|SirSpoonwave]] 03:00, 6 July 2012 (EDT)
:Thanks, but I haven't actually seen the show. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:02, 6 July 2012 (EDT)

== Picture Added ==

Thanks for working on the Picture after I uploaded it. So take at it:

[[Image:Toxitron-fpcomic.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Toxitron do anything for woman he no protect!]]

Would you find a page for this picture to go to?[[User:SirSpoonwave|SirSpoonwave]] 13:14, 4 August 2012 (EDT)

:I don't know, the articles for both of those characters are already pretty full with pictures. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:12, 4 August 2012 (EDT)

== Probably bots ==

*[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/212.159.89.127]
*[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/89.77.95.81]
*[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/195.230.167.76]
*[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/122.221.18.79]
:Thanks! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:52, 24 August 2012 (EDT)

== Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity ==

While you're adding a "The" to a bunch of links on IDW pages, could you also change the [[Optimus Prime (G1)]] links on the same pages to [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity]]? - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 09:37, 12 September 2012 (EDT)
:Ah, I've kinda finished changing those links now, sorry! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:30, 12 September 2012 (EDT)

==Screenshots==
You are still bother-able for screenshots? Because there's a few requests lying around.
* Netherlands - I'd like a screenshot of, at about 9 minutes in and right after Trypticon attacks the train, the big scnerey shot when the Autobots come rolling in. If it won't do in your opinion, a windmill shot from early on will also suffice.
* The Slingshot (weapon) page asks for a screenshot of Starscream from MTMTE2
* The Great Dome page asks for a screenshot from the first ''The Headmasters'' episode.
* The Incredibly tall rocket has an interior image request open.

Also, this isn't image-related, but could Armada Sureshock's talk page be deleted? The conversation isn't relevant to the current page, and it makes me uncomfortable. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 17:45, 21 September 2012 (EDT)
:Sure, I'll see what I can do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:49, 21 September 2012 (EDT)
::Thank you very, very much! [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 01:51, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

==Old images==
This wiki doesn't have a way to deal with unneeded images that are uploaded over, right? WOuld it be an idea to create a template and deletion subcategory for dealing with old images only? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 10:20, 27 September 2012 (EDT)
:Old revisions of images can be deleted by an admin, but is it needed that often that it needs a template? I don't think it's even necessary unless the old image is infringing in some way (I believe the images stay on the server in case they need to be undeleted so you don't save disk space, but I'm not 100% sure on that) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:46, 27 September 2012 (EDT)
::Every time and admin uploads over an image, I see them deleting the old version. So I thought it might be of use to have a notification system when people without admin status uplod over older images. But if it ain't necessary, then it ain't necessary. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:53, 27 September 2012 (EDT)

== New stub template ==
What would be the best place to suggest a new stub template so people see it? I've already suggested it on the [[Template talk:Stub|Stub talk page]], but nobody seems to have seen it. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 06:50, 2 October 2012 (EDT)
:The community portal, probably? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:32, 2 October 2012 (EDT)

== Bug in search function ==

I'm not sure if you're the right guy to contact about this, but here's the issue:

When you arrive at a new page that doesn't exist (like mistyping an article title), and then choose to search for that term in other pages, the macro converts all spaces to underscores. It then searches for that underscored block as one word, severely limiting the possibility that it would find anything.

For example, I typed in "http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers Prime (toyline)", accidentally omitting the colon. I got no result, clicked "Search for this" since I wasn't sure what I had typoed, and it searched for "Transformers_Prime_(toyline)", recieving zero results.

This isn't a critical bug, per se, since one could always just retype their search string in the sidebar and get it to act normally, but as it is now there's really no point to the search option on the "couldn't find article" page, since this cripples its functionality. It should be fixable by getting the searcher to interpret spaces and underscores as either spaces or underscores (assuming there are any article titles with underscores in them), although I can't say I know exactly where the fix would need to be implemented. I hope this helps![[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 14:14, 11 October 2012 (EDT)

:Thanks! I guess that's a bug which got fixed in a later version of MediaWiki. I've changed the message to have a better search link. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:22, 11 October 2012 (EDT)

== Vandal ==

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.145.6.217

Can you ban him please?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 15:34, 13 October 2012 (EDT)

User talk:Abates

2012-10-11T18:14:42Z

192.249.47.177: /* Bug in search function */ new section

Darkest hour

2012-10-07T17:26:45Z

192.249.47.177: /* Transformers: Prime */

{{disambig3|Darkest Hour}}

The '''darkest hour''' is a foretold day where the [[Transformer]]s will face the threat of utter extinction. In that time, it is said that a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] will rise from the ranks of the [[Autobot]]s and open the [[Matrix of Leadership]], using its power to "light our darkest hour" and eliminate the threat once and for all.

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon===
As he lay dying in the aftermath of the [[Battle of Autobot City|battle]] of [[Autobot City]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], knowing his time had come, chose [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] to be the new Autobot commander. Magnus at first resisted, feeling himself unworthy, but Prime sought to comfort Magnus by telling him of the prophecy of the Chosen One. As it turned out, the chosen one was in the room, and it was [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]].

Much later, after taking the Matrix from [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] and becoming Rodimus Prime, he opened the Matrix of Leadership, asking it to "light our darkest hour." This caused [[Unicron]] to self-destruct and thus halted his attack on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], saving the Transformers. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}

{{note|The movie's closing theme also refers to this phrase: It describes division and separation leading to defeat, culminating in "our darkest hour, when the light will save us all."}}

A year later, Optimus Prime, who had been revived, used the Matrix to cure the galaxy of the [[Hate Plague]], which had filled all beings with rage and caused them to attack others uncontrollably. As he did so, Prime also asked the Matrix to "light our darkest hour." {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2}}

===Beast Wars===
At the close of the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]], when the [[Maximal|Maximals]] emerged victorious, [[Optimus Primal]] reflected on [[Dinobot II]]'s heroism with a quote from the [[Covenant of Primus|Covenant]] of [[Primus]]: "In the [[spark]] of an enemy, there will be salvation. And in the darkest hour, there will be a light." {{storylink|Nemesis Part 2}}

===Transformers: Prime===
[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] says this before they destroy the Spacebridge {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 5}} When [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] traveled into [[Unicron]] to defeat him, Optimus announced that "the power of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] will light our darkest hour" before opening his chest and unleashing its energies. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}} After Optimus acquired the [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]], Megatron remarked that the Decepticons faced their darkest hour. {{storylink|Legacy}}

==See also==
*[['Til all are one]]

[[Category:Transformer culture]]

Talk:Jigu

2012-10-01T18:12:36Z

192.249.47.177: New page: Should the "Ji" be hiragana like that? Also, would it be more appropriate to romanize it as Jik/Zhik?~~~~

Should the "Ji" be hiragana like that? Also, would it be more appropriate to romanize it as Jik/Zhik?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 14:12, 1 October 2012 (EDT)

Guiding Hand

2012-09-27T13:59:31Z

192.249.47.177: /* IDW Generation 1 comics */ typo?

:''The Guiding Hand is a mysterious "them" from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[Image:MtMtEAnn2012-TheGuidingHand.jpg|350px|thumb|In the name of Kirby, let it be so.]]
The '''Guiding Hand''' are five ancient deities created by [[Primus]]. They are featured in one of the more prominent myths regarding the creation of the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and its native people.

==Members==
*[[Primus]], the Light-giver and Life-giver
*[[Mortilus]], the Death-bringer
*[[Solomus]], Wisdom Incarnate
*[[Epistemus]], Knowledge Personified
*[[Adaptus]], Blessed with an Infinity of Shapes

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 comics===
{{spoiler|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|October 10}}
According to a religious story related by [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]], the Guiding Hand were formed after the creation of the planet Cybertron when Primus the First Light stood forth on the miracle planet. At the time, he felt a nest of [[spark]]s within him and he split his essence into five other vessels. They became a remote but nurturing presence on early Cybertron and populated it with a gesture, thus creating the [[Transformer]] race. Under their reign came the First [[Golden Age]] of Cybertron which was shattered when Mortilus believed that the Guiding Hand should become a fist against the rest of the universe. As Mortilus stood against Primus, all of Cybertron became divided in a conflict that saw the planet shudder and its first moon being ripped asunder. The Death-bringer was ultimately destroyed in the struggle but the conflict left the remaining members of the Guiding Hand mortally wounded.

Primus who was near death went into the heart of Cybertron where he re-integrated himself to the planet and became [[Vector Sigma]] that was the source of all sentience. Solomus was trapped by Mortilus into a crystal prison but the wise god managed to re-arrange it into the [[Creation Matrix]] that not only served as a connection to Vector Sigma but provided wisdom to future generations of Transformers. Both Epistemus and Adaptus were not as lucky as Mortilus had stripped both bare. Epistemus was transformed into a [[brain module]] whilst Adaptus became a [[transformation cog]]. Prior to their death, they offered their designs to future generations to utilize both their intellect and functionality to face the rigors of their environment. With Mortilus's destruction, death itself was gone and this allowed the sparks of Cybertronians to burn perpetually, rendering them functionally ageless. After this period, the first inheritors of the Guiding Hand became the [[Knights of Cybertron]] who were given the gifts of sentience, wisdom, intellect, change and immortality whereupon they went to spread peace across the universe. {{Storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations}}

The Guiding Hand were mentioned in an ancient inscription within the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. Through the Matrix, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] once knew of them, but the knowledge faded from his memory upon the splitting of the Matrix. {{Storylink|The Transformers: The Death of Optimus Prime|The Death of Optimus Prime}}

Their existence or otherwise is a matter of some debate - "[[evolutionary engineerist]]s" like [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] and [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] reject the concept of "gods" entirely in favour of [[atechnogenesis]] {{Storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations}}, and even Optimus Prime himself, before he took that name, once rejected the whole idea of Adaptus and Mortilus {{storylink|Chaos Theory Part 2}}.

[[Category: Generation 1 factions]]
[[Category: Transformer culture]]
[[Category: Religion]]
[[Category: Gods]]
[[Category: Primus]]

Talk:Primus: All Good Things

2012-09-27T13:58:01Z

192.249.47.177: New page: Any chance at all that "supermassive black hole" was a shout-out to Muse?~~~~

Any chance at all that "supermassive black hole" was a shout-out to Muse?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 09:58, 27 September 2012 (EDT)

Primus: All Good Things

2012-09-27T13:57:36Z

192.249.47.177:

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'''Across both the past and the present, ancient powers result in the rise of new leaders for Cybertron... but will they save the planet, or doom it?'''

==Synopsis==

===In the past...===

Ages ago, on the war-torn planet of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], home to a race of shape-changing robots, a leader emerged who ended the fighting: [[Nova Prime]]. Seeking to rediscover the lost principles of their legendary gods, [[Primus]] and the [[Guiding Hand]], Nova gathers his closest friends and advisors, [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]], [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] and [[Dai Atlas (Zone)|Dai Atlas]], and leads them on a quest into the bowels of the planet. There, they find the home of the Guiding Hand, [[Crystal City]], and its guardian [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], who allies himself with Nova to help accomplish his goal of bringing peace and prosperity back to the wounded world. Together, they raise Crystal City to the surface and usher in a new age of freedom... but in time, Nova's ambition begins to grow, and he has an [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] built that he may travel to countless other worlds and share his gift of freedom with them. Additionally, further studying the legends of the Guiding Hand, he explores ways to fulfil the prophecy that claims "[['Til all are one|all shall be one]]", and tasks Jhiaxus with re-engineering [[Pretender Monster|six volunteers]], giving them the ability to combine their bodies and minds. Horrified at this perversion of the ancient texts, Dai Atlas informs Omega Supreme, who shares his concern: it's not just freedom Nova seeks for all, but freedom from individual will. Omega attacks the monstrous new combined Transformer, [[Monstructor (G1)|Monstructor]], causing the beast to rage out of Nova and Jhiaxus's control, resulting in a battle that devastates Crystal City. Dai Atlas despairs, but Nova dismisses the city as having outlived its usefulness, and departs to make ready for the launch of the Ark. In time, Omega triumphs over Monstructor, and reveals to Dai Atlas the great secret of the crumbling Crystal City, which he never shared with Nova: beneath it dwells a slumbering [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Metrotitan]]. It is not for them to awaken it, however; that task will be carried out by a great Cybertronian in the future. For now, its energies will be used to aid Dai Atlas in leaving the planet himself when the time comes, to preserve the teachings of the Guiding Hand when Cybertron once again feels the inevitable grip of war. As the Ark departs and Crystal City completes its collapse beneath Cybertron's surface, Dai Atlas remarks on Omega's apparent knowledge of the future, but Omega explains he knows merely the path, not the destination. Uncertainty allows Dai Atlas a measure of optimism, but Omega sees little point in having hope.

===In the present...===

Disregarding [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]'s instructions, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] takes [[Metalhawk]] into the wilderness outside [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] to help search for the missing [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] and the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]. There, they spot [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] doing the same, forcing Metalhawk to realise that Starscream was correct: Bumblebee was lying about waiting until morning before sending anyone out, fearing that Metalhawk and Starscream would curry favour in public elections if they helped find the missing Autobots. When a patch of ground explodes in front of Blurr, the pair decide to go down and help, but he rebuffs their offer and instead calls in Autobot High Command to secure what he had found in the subterranean cavern revealed by the explosion: an underground city, and the dormant body of a Metrotitan. Rather than Bumblebee—who is busy dealing with a disappeared Decepticon spaceship—the call is answered by [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], the latter staying up-top to guard the entrance while Blurr leads the others into the cavern. Wheeljack is quick to detect teleportation energy and realizes that the Metrotitan has [[quantum jump]]ed to Cybertron with foreboding results: its molecules enmeshed with those of the city, the Metrotitan's anti-protons are interacting with the city's regular protons, threatening to cause the impending explosive collapse of local reality.

A call from Sideswipe brings Prowl back to the surface, where it turns out Starscream has had the Decepticons peacefully assemble with the express purpose of letting them know the Autobots are hiding something from them. Prowl gives them some sparse facts about what has occurred and tries to get a perimeter set up to protect lives (though Blurr objects to his taking charge of the situation), and then angrily returns below for an update from Wheeljack, who has discovered that the Metrotitan is still alive. Their options are two: use a containment field to contain the impending antimatter explosion, or save the titan by halting the flow of anti-protons with the possible side-effect of collapsing Cybertron and its star system into a [[black hole|singularity]]. Prowl chooses the first option, but then realizes that Starscream is spying on them, and leaves Wheeljack to work while he chases after the Decepticon. The chase brings Prowl and Starscream directly in front of the Metrotitan's head, with a most unexpected result... the Metrotitan awakens. The titan credits the presence of Starscream as the cause, identifying him as the great Cybertronian who will unite the planet, something even Starscream himself has trouble believing. Labels of "good" or "evil" matter not: in Starscream, the titan sees a conqueror. Happy to have been activated one final time, the titan shuts down, and a dumbfounded Starscream asks Prowl what they should tell everyone. Prowl advocates silence, naturally... but unfortunately for him, all the other Decepticons and Autobots entered the cavern while they weren't looking, and heard the whole exchange.

Everyone pulls out so Wheeljack can contain the explosion, and the Decepticons return to Iacon carrying Starscream on their shoulders, spreading the word that he is their new conquering savior. Wary of the Metrotitan's choice of words and the populace's acceptance of a power they do not understand, Metalhawk watches from afar, and is approached by Omega Supreme, who knew the titan from ages past. Asked by Omega for his opinion, Metalhawk admits his long-held opposition to the idea of conflict and conquest as the only way to unity is badly shaken, and Omega ponders his own long-standing belief in the hopelessness of the Cybertronian race. But perhaps, Omega speculates, the Metrotitan returned to make them question their beliefs and paths... and in questioning them, allow them to change. Having departed Cybertron in the past because of his fear that the war would change him, Metalhawk is given pause to realise that change is not immutable or inevitable—it is something brought about by the individual, and it is something he can help bring about for his planet.

==Featured characters==
(Characters in ''italic text'' appear only in flashbacks.) 
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*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] (10)
*[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] (11)
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*[[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] (13)
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*[[Tankor (BM)|Vehicon Tankor]] (22)
*[[Wingspan]] (23)
*[[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]]? (25)
*[[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]] (26)
*[[Apeface]] (27)
*[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] (28)
*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] (30)
*[[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]] (31)
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*[[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]] (32)
*[[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]] (33)
*[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] (34)
*[[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] (35)
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*''[[Dai Atlas (Zone)|Dai Atlas]]'' (2)
*''[[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]'' (3)
*''[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]]'' (4)
*''[[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]'' (5)
*[[Metalhawk]] (7)
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* ''[[Wildfly]]'' (17)
* ''[[Scowl]]'' (18)
* ''[[Birdbrain]]'' (19)
* ''[[Slog]]'' (20)
* ''[[Monstructor (G1)|Monstructor]]'' (21)
* [[Sky-Byte (G2)|Sky-Byte]] (24)
* [[Hipotank]] (29)
* [[Tappet]] (37)
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==Quotes==

"'''''Primus''' is the voice—his words '''lead''' to the '''truth.''''' 
'''''Primus''' is the steel—his is our '''body''', his our '''spark.''''' 
'''''Primus''' is the sun—the '''hope''' for a better '''tomorrow.''''' 
''I am his '''bullet'''—I am the '''promised dawn''' made '''real.'''" 
"That's... charming. I didn't think you '''cared''' for poetry, '''Starscream.'''" 
"I'm not particularly religious either, but that part about the '''bullet''' is pretty '''funny,''' right?"
:—'''Starscream''' and '''Metalhawk'''

"Hey, Starscream. What do you get when you cross '''Prowl''' with '''no witnesses?''' That's not a '''joke.''' Shut up or '''get shot.'''"
:—'''Sideswipe'''

"It's, on a scale from '''reasonable''' to something '''Brainstorm''' would come up with... about 0.6, 0.7 '''Brainstorms.'''" 
"Meaning...?" 
"If I start this '''going''' and the '''anti-protons''' keep '''accumulating,''' we'll get an '''uncontrolled antimatter reaction''' and a cascading effect of protons falling to a '''point''', probably creating a '''singularity.'''" 
"Meaning...?" 
"'''Planet-sized fireball''' and our entire solar system turning into a '''supermassive black hole.'''" 
"That's '''0.6 Brainstorms?"''' 
"You, uh, you '''do''' know what he gets up to, right?"
:—'''Wheeljack''' and '''Prowl'''

"Your castle '''falls''', Prime." 
"I have no '''need''' of this '''city''' any '''longer.''' It was a mere '''symbol,''' Dai Atlas." 
"I was the '''legacy''' of '''Primus.'''" 
<big>"'''I am the legacy of Primus!'''"</big>
:—'''Dai Atlas''' and '''Nova Prime'''

==Notes==
[[Image:PrimusAllGoodThings-introdump.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
* This issue contains the second of two interlinking stories with the title prefix of "Primus", told through the 2012 ''Transformers'' annuals. The stories' unifying theme is that of exploring and revealing a lot of new information about the earliest days of life on Cybertron, embodied in the presence of the Metrotitan, which appears in this story following its disappearance at the conclusion of the [[Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|''More than Meets the Eye'' annual]]. The flashback sequences in both these issues are drawn by Guido Guidi in a retro style gloriously evocative of the original [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel Comics series]]—particularly the inking work of [[Ian Akin]] and [[Brian Garvey]] and the limited-palette, not-always-entirely-inside-the-lines coloring of [[Nelson Yomtov]]—which he has also showcased in the variant "B" covers of ''[[The Transformers: Regeneration One|Regeneration One]]''.
*This issue takes the whole "retro" thing substantially further than the ''More than Meets the Eye'' annual did, with many more flashback pages and many more loving references to the classic Marvel series. The first page of the comic is a direct homage to the first page of the [[The Transformers (issue)|first Marvel issue]], and the whole comic is filled with scripting that deliberately evokes early Marvel quirks, including unnaturally stilted and florid dialogue and narration, as well as an awesome [[introdump]] that specifically homages the [[:Image:Introdump decepticons marvelus01.jpg|classic Decepticon panel]] from the first issue. It even gets to bust out the classic Marvel square-with-pointy-corners robot speech balloons!
* The title, "All Good Things" is a shortened version of the phrase "all good things come to an end."
* This is the first time we learn that there was war on Cybertron ''before'' the Autobot/Decepticon conflict. By establishing this, the issue repairs a continuity error from the best-forgotten [[Heart of Darkness issue 3|''Heart of Darkness'' #3]], in which [[Thinkbox]], hailing from a time of war, was able to recognise Galvatron, despite the fact that he left the planet before the 'Bot/'Con war began. Now that we know there was another war, this makes sense.
*As in the ''More than Meets the Eye'' annual, an "opposite" of Primus is referred to as a figure of fear but never named, keeping up IDW's long-standing refusal to name-drop [[Unicron]].
*Crystal City is visually based on its original appearance from the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] episode, "[[The Secret of Omega Supreme]]", which is also the origin of Omega's role as its guardian. This is the first appearance of the original city in IDW continuity; its successor, a second city built by Dai Atlas and his [[Circle of Light]], appeared in the [[The Transformers: Drift|''Drift'']] mini-series.
*The first panel on page 18 is an homage to [[:Image:Generic autobots marvel 1.jpg|this panel]] from the first Marvel issue, with added Omega Supreme and ''More than Meets the Eye''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]].
* There are several amusing cameos among the crowd at the Metrotitan, including ''[[Beast Machines]]'' [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] and ''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers 2010]]'' [[Hubcap (TF 2010)|Hubcap]].

===Errors===
* TBD

===Covers (3)===
*'''Cover A:''' The Metrotitan looms over Starscream and Prowl, by [[Tim Seeley]] and [[Joana Lafuente]]
*'''Cover B:''' Omega Supreme versus Monstructor as Nova Prime and Jhiaxus look on, by [[Andrew Griffith]] and Joana Lafuente
*'''Cover RI:''' Prowl, Bumblebee and Wheeljack and half a Metrotitan, linking with the ''More than Meets the Eye'' Annual 2012 RI cover, by [[Jimbo Salgado]]

<gallery>
Image:RIDAnn2012_cvrA.jpg|Cover A
Image:RIDAnn2012_cvrB.jpg|Cover B
Image:RIDAnn2012_cvrRI.jpg|Cover RI
</gallery>

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Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)

2012-09-26T17:53:56Z

192.249.47.177: this sounds kind of narmy

{{nav-universe2008}}

'''''Transformers: Universe''''' was the name of a Transformers toy line by [[Hasbro]] that was launched in mid-2008 and ran as a mass retail line until early 2009, but continued throughout the year with various [[exclusive]] releases. It was the ''second'' Transformers toy line to bear the ''Universe'' name; the [[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|first one]] was launched in 2003, with the last new toy of the line being released in early 2008. The main way to distinguish between the two ''Universe'' lines accepted among fans is the difference in title logos.

The "main" focus of the second ''Universe'' toyline was on the Legends, Deluxe, Voyager and Ultra [[Size class|price points]], which consist of new molds for "classic" characters from various previous lines, as well as redecos of existing toys from older lines (such as ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' and the 2006 ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' line). In addition, there were numerous store exclusive single and multi-packs, which also consisted of redecos of toys from older lines.

Many of the new-mold toys were meant to feature "realistic" vehicle modes (a niche left otherwise unfilled after the end of the [[Movie (toyline)|2007 movie line]]), although that aspect was later muddled with the introduction of Legends Class toys for characters from the ''[[Transformers Animated (toyline)|Animated]]'' line (which have not-so-realistic vehicle modes) and ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' characters (which have animal forms as their [[alternate mode]]s, not vehicles). The ''G1 series'' also caused trouble, as suitcase-sized micro-cassettes aren't really that common, and flying spaceships aren't masters of disguise. Unless you're on Cybertron or something.

Just to break the vehicle-mode-based pattern completely, ''Universe'' also continued the non-transforming, super-cute ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' line.

In 2009, the packaging gained a "25 Years" corner logo to commemorate ''Transformers''' 25th anniversary, as the toyline's offerings expanded to include updates of key characters from every franchise.

Many of the toys were [[redeco]]ed for release in the Japanese [[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|''Henkei! Henkei!'' toyline]].

==Toys==
===General retail===
====Legends Class====
=====Wave 1=====
[[Image:Universelegendsredalert.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Red Alert, a Legends Class toy.]]
*[[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] (Classic Series)
*[[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]] (Classic Series)
*[[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]] (Classic Series)

=====Wave 2=====
*[[Hound (G1)|Autobot Hound]] (Classic Series)
*[[Jazz (G1)/toys|Autobot Jazz]] (Classic Series)
*[[Megatron (G1)/toys|Megatron (G2)]] (Classic Series)

=====Wave 3=====
*[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (''Animated'' Series)
*[[Optimus Prime (Animated)/toys|Optimus Prime]] (''Animated'' Series)
*[[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] (''Animated'' Series)

=====Wave 4=====
*[[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] (''Animated'' Series)
*[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] (G1 Series)
*[[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] (G1 Series)
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Bumblebee]] (G1 Series)

=====Wave 5=====
*[[Cosmos (G1)|Autobot Cosmos]] (G1 Series)
*[[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] (G1 Series)
*[[Hot Rod (G1)/toys|Rodimus]] (G1 Series)
*[[Wheelie (G1)|Autobot Wheelie]] (G1 Series)

====Deluxe Class====
=====Wave 1=====
[[Image:Universe AcidStorm toy.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Acid Storm, a Deluxe Class toy.]]
*[[Prowl (G1)/toys|Prowl]] (Classic Series)
*[[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] (Classic Series)
*[[Octane|Tankor]] (Classic Series; an update of Octane, not named so due to [[Trademark|trademark issues]])

=====Wave 2=====
*[[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]] (Classic Series)
*[[Galvatron (G1)/toys|Galvatron]] (Classic Series)

=====Wave 3=====
*[[Ironhide (G1)/toys|Ironhide]] (Classic Series)
*[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] (Classic Series)
*[[Bluestreak (G1)|Silverstreak]] (Classic Series, an update of Bluestreak, not named so due to [[Trademark|trademark issues]])

=====Wave 4=====
*[[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]] (Generation 1 Series; minor redeco of [[Transformers: Classics|Classics]] Deluxe Starscream)
*[[Hound (G1)|Autobot Hound]] with [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]] (Generation 1 Series)
*[[Cheetor (BW)/toys|Cheetor]] (Beast Wars Series)
*[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] with [[Nightstick (Cyclonus)|Nightstick]] (Generation 1 Series)

=====Wave 5=====
*[[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] (Beast Wars Series)
*[[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] (Generation 1 Series)

=====Wave 6=====
*[[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys|Hot Shot]] with [[Jolt (Armada)|Jolt]] (Armada Series)
*[[Ratchet (G1)|Autobot Ratchet]] (Generation 1 Series)

====Voyager Class====
=====Wave 1=====
[[Image:Universe2008-HeavyLoadDrillBit-toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Heavy Load, a Voyager Class toy.]]
*[[Blaster (G1)|Autobot Blaster]] with Mini-Con [[Blockrock]] (Classic Series)
*[[Heavy Load (Universe)|Decepticon Heavy Load]] with Mini-Con [[Drill Bit (Universe)|Drill Bit]] (Classic Series)

=====Wave 2=====
*[[Blades (G1)|Autobot Blades]] (Classic Series)
*[[Dropshot (Universe)|Dropshot]] (Classic Series)

=====Wave 3=====
*[[Tread Bolt]] (Classic Series)

=====Wave 4=====
*[[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] (Generation 2 Series)
*[[Vector Prime]] with Mini-Con Safeguard (Cybertron Series)
{{Note|This wave had minimal retail distribution, and as a result, Vector Prime was a very rare sight at US stores. Inferno shipped again in the subsequent [[wave]]. Vector Prime finally showed up in somewhat larger quantities many, many months after his initial retail sighting.}}

=====Wave 5=====
*[[Overload (Armada)|Overload]] (Cybertron Series)
*[[Lio Convoy|Leo Prime]] (Beast Wars Series)

====Ultra Class====
=====Wave 1=====
[[Image:UniverseOnslaughtToys-HasbroTakara.JPG|right|250px|thumb|Onslaught, an Ultra Class toy.]]
*[[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] (Classic Series)
*[[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] (Classic Series)

=====Wave 2=====
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (Classic Series)

=====Wave 3=====
*[[Storm Cloud]] (Classic Series)

=====Wave 4=====
*[[Bruticus (RID)|Predacon Bruticus]] (Robots in Disguise Series)

====Robot Heroes====
=====Wave 1=====
[[Image:Robotheroesmegatronrattrap.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Robot Heroes Megatron and Rattrap.]]
*[[Rattrap]] & [[Megatron (BW)/toys|Megatron]] (''Beast Wars'' Series)
*[[Cheetor (BW)/toys|Cheetor]] & [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] (''Beast Wars'' Series)
*[[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] & [[Galvatron (G1)/toys|Galvatron]] (''Generation 1'' Series)
*[[Hound (G1)|Hound]] & [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] (''Generation 1'' Series)

=====Wave 2=====
*[[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] & [[Rumble (G1)|Decepticon Rumble]] (''Generation 1'' Series)
*[[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] & [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] (''Beast Wars'' Series)
*[[Optimus Primal/toys|Optimus Primal]] & [[Tarantulas (BW)|Predacon Tarantulas]] (''Beast Wars'' Series)

=====Wave 3=====
*[[Blaster (G1)|Autobot Blaster]] & [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] (''Generation 1'' Series)
*[[Ironhide (G1)/toys|Ironhide]] & [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] (''Generation 1'' Series)
*[[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] & [[Megatron (BW)/toys|(Transmetal) Megatron]] (''Beast Wars'' Series)

=====Wave 4=====
*[[Cheetor (BW)/toys|Cheetor]] & [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] (''Beast Machines'' Series)
*[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] & [[Bombshell (G1)|Hardshell]] (''Generation 1'' Series)
*[[Slag (G1)|Snarl]] & [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]] (''Generation 1'' Series)

=====International release=====
*Australia/Singapore, United Kingdom/Germany
**[[Ricochet (Headmasters)|Ricochet]] & [[Predaking]] (''Generation 1'' Series)
**[[Tigatron]] & [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] (''Beast Wars'' Series)

=====''Canceled''=====
*[[Optimus Prime (RID)|Super Optimus Prime]] & [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]] (''Robots in Disguise'' Series)
*[[Prowl (G1)/toys|Prowl]] & [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] (''Generation 1'' Series)
*[[Optimus Primal/toys|Optimus Primal]] & [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] (''Beast Machines'' Series)
*[[Star Saber (Victory)|Victory Saber]] & [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Dessaras]] (''Generation 1'' Series)

====More than Meets the Eye 25th Anniversary Pack====
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|25th Anniversary Optimus Prime Pack]] (G1 Series)

===Exclusives===
====Costco====
*Ultra Twin-Pack (Cybertron Series) contains:
**[[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]] (unchanged ''Cybertron: Galaxy Force'' Leader Class Optimus Prime)
**[[Crumplezone (Cybertron)|Crumplezone]] (unchanged ''Cybertron'' Voyager Class Crumplezone)

====Hasbro Toy Shop====
*[[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]] (Classic Series)

{{Note|This toy was originally sold at the [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] booth at San Diego Comic-Con 2008, and was later offered on the online store's website. It was also available as a non-exclusive mass retail release in Taiwan, Hong Kong and Malaysia.}}

*SE-01 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] (Special Edition)
*SE-02 [[Megatron (G1)/toys|Megatron]] (Special Edition)
*SE-03 Decepticon [[Drag Strip (G1)|Drag Strip]] (Special Edition)
*SE-04 [[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]] (Special Edition)

{{Note| According to Hasbro, the "Special Editions" were originally intended for the non-Japanese Asian market, but were also made available to Western fans via the [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] website as well. They have also been released at general retail in Australia and New Zealand. In early 2010, they were also found at Marshalls and TJ Maxx stores in the USA.}}

*[[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]] with [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]] and [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] (''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' [[Generation 1 reissues|reissues]])

{{Note|Soundwave was originally sold at the Hasbro Toy Shop booth at San Diego Comic-Con 2009, and was later offered on the online store's website.}}

*[[Blaster (G1)|Autobot Blaster]] with [[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]], [[Ramhorn (G1)|Ramhorn]] and [[Eject]] (reissues)

{{Note|Blaster was originally sold at the Hasbro Toy Shop booth at San Diego Comic-Con 2010, and was later offered on the online store's website.}}

====Kmart====
[[Image:Kmart suppressor toy.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Suppressor, an exclusive Armada Series Mini-Con.]]
*Mini-Con 12-Pack (Armada Series), contains:
**[[Safeguard Team]]
***[[Flatfoot]]
***[[Heavytread (Universe)|Heavytread]]
***[[Makeshift (Universe)|Makeshift]]
**[[Overcast Team]]
***[[Boltflash]]
***[[Cloudraker (Universe)|Cloudraker]]
***[[Skyhammer (Universe)|Skyhammer]]
**[[Landslide Team]]
***[[Backstop (Universe)|Backstop]]
***[[Bodyblock (Universe)|Bodyblock]]
***[[Knockdown (Universe)|Knockdown]]
**[[Ransack Team]]
***[[Blight (Universe)|Blight]]
***[[Brimstone (Universe)|Brimstone]]
***[[Suppressor (Universe)|Suppressor]]

{{Note|This twelve-pack was also available as a Woolworths exclusive in the United Kingdom - before Woolworths went bankrupt and closed down - and a Zellers AND Toys R' Us exclusive in Canada. The Mini-Cons are also being sold individually on Transformers Universe 25th Anniversary cards at Big Lots stores in the United States. They finally received an Australian release - as a Big W exclusive - in December 2009.}}

====Sam's Club====
*Battle for the [[Cyber Planet Key|Cyber Planet Keys]] Deluxe five-pack, (Cybertron Series) contains:
**[[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]] (minor ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' homage [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' Super-Con Optimus Prime)
**[[Blurr (Cybertron)|Blurr]] (unchanged ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' Deluxe Class Blurr)
**[[Longrack (Cybertron)|Longrack]] (unchanged ''Cybertron'' Deluxe Class Longrack)
**[[Runamuck (Cybertron)|Runamuck]] (unchanged ''Cybertron'' Deluxe Class Runamuck)
**[[Buzzsaw (Cybertron)|Buzzsaw]] (unchanged ''Cybertron'' Deluxe Class Buzzsaw)

====Target====
=====Voyager class=====
*[[Lio Convoy|Leo Prime]] (redeco in ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars II]]'' colors)

=====Legends 5-packs=====

*Aerial Rivals (Classic Series), contains:
**[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]]
**[[Blades (G1)|Autobot Blades]]
**[[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]
**[[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]]
**[[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]

*Special Team Leaders (Classic Series), contains:
**[[Hot Spot (G1)|Autobot Hot Zone]] (an update of Hot Spot, not named so due to [[Trademark|trademark issues]])
**[[Hun-Gurrr]]
**[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]]
**[[Scattershot (G1)|Scattorshot]] (an update of Scattershot, not named so due to [[Trademark|trademark issues]])
**[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]

{{Note|Both five-packs were also available as Zellers exclusives in Canada, possible Farmers exclusives in New Zealand and as Argos exclusives in the UK.}}

[[Image:Universe 2008 Ratbat toy.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Ratbat, an exclusive War Within Series Deluxe toy.]]

=====Voyager Deluxe Comic 2-packs=====
*[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] vs. [[Roadbuster (G1)|Autobot Roadbuster]] (G1 Series)
*[[Springer (G1)|Springer]] vs. [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] (War Within Series)

{{Note|Both two-packs were also available as Zellers exclusives in Canada, and as [[Toys"R"Us]] exclusives in Australia.}}

=====Titanium Series=====
*[[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Zone]] (redeco of ''Robots in Disguise'' Optimus Prime)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] (redeco of ''War Within'' Optimus Prime)
*[[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] (redeco of ''War Within'' Thundercracker)

{{note|These three figures were released in 2009, well after ''Transformers'' product had ceased being released in the Titanium Series proper. The packaging co-brands them as both ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' and Titanium Series toys.}}

{{-}}

====Toys"R"Us====
=====Ultra Class=====
* [[Countdown (G1)|Autobot Countdown]] (Generation 1 Series)
* [[Darkwing|Darkwind]] (Generation 1 Series)

=====Supreme Class=====
* [[Unicron]] (unchanged Supreme Class ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' Unicron in new packaging) (Armada Series)

=====Commemorative Edition=====
* [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]
* [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] ([[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]], [[Shrapnel (G1)|Sharpshot]] and [[Bombshell (G1)|Hardshell]])

====Walmart====
* ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]

=====Ultra Class=====
* [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] ([[redeco]] in ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' colors) (Generation 1 Series)
* [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] (Generation 1 Series)
* [[Skyjack|Skyfall]] (Generation 2 Series)

=====Scout Class two-packs=====
*War of the Waves ([[Air Raid (Universe 2008)|Air Raid]] vs. [[Storm Surge (Universe)|Storm Surge]]) (Cybertron Series)
*The Data War ([[Clocker (Cybertron)|Clocker]] vs. [[Hardtop (Cybertron)|Hardtop]]) (Cybertron Series)
{{Note|These two-packs contain unchanged versions of the Scout Class toys from the [[Movie (toyline)|2007 ''Movie'' toyline]] of the same name, which were available exclusively at [[Target]] stores in the USA, and (at least some of them) as mass releases in Europe. The ''Universe'' two-pack versions were also found at [[Walmart]]-owned Asda stores in the United Kingdom and at Target stores in Australia.}}

====Shared====
=====Market Six=====
*Warriors From Three Worlds three-Pack (Cybertron Series) contains:
**[[Ransack (Cybertron)|Ransack GTS]]
**[[Repugnus (Cybertron)|Repugnus]]
**[[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]
{{Note|This three-pack has been sighted at Christmas Tree Shop, Family Dollar and Walgreens stores in the United States, in Sainsburys stores in the United Kingdom and in Canadian Tire stores in (where else?) Canada for the 2009 holiday period. Bizarrely enough, it showed up at various Toys"R"Us stores in the USA in late 2010, at higher prices than the Market Six stores were asking for it.}}
{{-}}

=====Meijer/Kmart=====
*Mini-Con 10-Pack (Armada Series) contains:
**[[Battle Support Team]]
***[[Windrazor (Universe)|Windrazor]]
***[[Ransack (Universe 2008)|Ransack]]
***[[Stockade (Universe 2008)|Stockade]]
***[[Overcharge (Universe)|Overcharge]]
***[[Sky Shadow (Universe)|Sky Shadow]]
**[[Ground Surveillance Team]]
***[[Scavenger (Universe 2008)|Scavenger]]
***[[Longview (Universe)|Longview]]
***[[Snow Cat (Universe)|Snow Cat]]
***[[Treadshot (Universe 2008)|Treadshot]]
***[[Crosshairs (Universe)|Crosshairs]]

{{note|This set was available in Canada as a Canadian Tire exclusive and in the United Kingdom as a Tesco exclusive.}}

===International releases===
[[Image:ChallengeAtCybertron.jpg|right|thumb|180px|The Asian exclusive "Challenge at Cybertron" giftset.]]
*[[Superion (G1)|Superion]] (G1 Series) five-pack, contains:
**[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]]
**[[Airazor (Universe)|Airazor]]
**[[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]]
**[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]
**[[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]]

*[[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus Maximus]] (G1 Series) five-pack, contains:
**[[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]]
**[[Brawl (G1)|Decepticon Brawl]]
**[[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]]
**[[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]]
**[[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]]

{{Note|These two five-packs have thus far only been released in The United Kingdom, Australia and Singapore. In North America, they were released in ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]]'' packaging instead, as [[Target]] [[exclusive]]s.}}

*"Challenge At Cybertron" Deluxe three pack [[giftset]], contains:
**[[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]
**[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] with [[Nightstick (Cyclonus)|Nightstick]]
**[[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]]

{{Note|Distributed by Hasbro Malaysia, this set was a shared exclusive at [[China]]'s [[Cybertron Con 2010]] and at the [[Animation-Comic-Game Hong Kong]] festival. Hasbro would later go on to make some pieces available as contest prizes for [[Unofficial conventions|Auto Assembly 2010]] in the U.K.}}

==References==
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[[Category:Universe (2008)| Universe (2008 toyline)]]

Silas

2012-09-21T21:01:58Z

192.249.47.177: doesn't make sense

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{disambig2|the ''Prime'' human|the Brazilian voice actor|Silas Borges}}
:''Silas is a [[human]] from the [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)| Prime]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:Prime-Silas.jpg|right|thumb|300px|You wanna know how I got these scars?]]

'''Silas''', real name '''Leland Bishop''', is the stone-faced leader<ref>[[Raf's Notes]], [http://www.hubworld.com/prime-rafs-notes-entry13 entry #13]</ref> of [[MECH]], whose lethal obsession with [[Transformers|Cybertronian]] biology would border on insanity, if his iron-mask of absolute control didn't obscure the sinister conspiracy percolating within.

Proclaiming the desire for a ''new world order,'' Silas and his supporters systematically usurp Decepticon and Autobot agenda alike in the name of [[Crisscross|research]] and [[Operation: Breakdown|experimentation]] to further [[Project Chimera|Project Chimera]], the [[Nemesis Prime (Prime)|product]] of their horrific campaign.

Expenditures be damned, Silas and the soldiers of MECH will exploit every crack in Cybertronian [[Starscream (Prime)|armor]] to insure their promise of chaos and terror...

{{quote|There's a war brewing, between the new world order and the newest. The victor will be the side armed with the most innovative technology.|Silas|[[Convoy (episode)|Convoy]]}}

==Fiction==
===''Prime'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Clancy Brown]] (English), [[Unshō Ishizuka]] (Japanese)|[[Oliviero Corbetta]] (Italian), [[Axel Lutter]] (German), [[Humberto Solórzano Almanza|Humberto Solórzano]] (Latin American Spanish), [[Hamilton Ricardo]] (Brazilian Portuguese), [[Rafael Calvo]] (Spain-Spanish)}}

Colonel Leland Bishop was once a member of Special Operations of the United States military. {{storylink|Nemesis Prime (episode)|Nemesis Prime}} Part of "special tactics", he was the architect of [[Project Damocles]], which ultimately caused his discharge from the armed forces. After leaving the military, he went rogue, adopting the codename Silas and becoming part of MECH. {{storylink|Grill}}

From his helicopter, Silas shot down [[William Fowler]]'s plane transporting the [[Dynamic Nuclear Generation System]]. Soon, Fowler was transporting the device aboard a [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|civilian trailer truck]]. Fowler evaded Silas's men, and when they attempted to open the trailer door, a [[Arcee (Prime)|motorcycle driver]] drove onto one of their cars, causing it to flip over and explode. The convoy passed through a train tunnel, and as it emerged, [[Vehicon (Prime)|mysterious purple planes]] fired on the [[trailer]]. Since there was no radiation emanating from the explosion, Silas realized Fowler must've transferred the device onto the train. Then Silas witnessed the civilian convoy and planes [[transformation|transform]] into robots, and a fight ensued. Silas was pleased to confirm the rumors of [[Transformer|living technology]] on [[Earth]], but flew off to retrieve the DNGS.

A [[Raf Esquivel|hacker]] caused the train to diverge onto a forked track, but Silas's pilot cut the connection. Silas prepared to land on the train as his men finished cutting open the appropriate car's roof, but retreated when he saw the truck robot on the move. He wasn't going to let the enemy leave with his prize, and so fired on the train tracks to cause a crash. The truck robot managed to stop the train, and from the safety of his helicopter, Silas watched his new enemy stare back. He privately congratulated the alien visitor, but noted MECH had the home advantage and vowed to level the playing field, even if it meant dissecting the robot. Silas then flew off. {{storylink|Convoy (episode)|Convoy}}

[[Image:OperationBreakdown-WeAreMECH.jpg|thumb|left|250px|[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlueAndOrangeMorality Blue and orange morality], blue and orange decor.]]
Silas had his men capture [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] during a battle on the [[Kamchatka Peninsula]], taking the captive 'Con to a makeshift base in a deserted railway tunnel so they could dismantle him in peace. He had one of Breakdown's eyes removed and converted into a two-way transmitter, leaving it somewhere obvious, so he could talk to Breakdown's rescuers, and was surprised when Optimus Prime came looking for the Decepticon. Though a bomb waylaid Prime's team, [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] broke into the tunnel and Silas retired to his helicopter outside, where he directed the MECH forces in an attempt to stop Bulkhead and Breakdown from escaping. He was forced to order a retreat when [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] arrived with Vehicons, however they had gained enough information from their examination of Breakdown that Silas could initiate [[Project Chimera]]. {{Storylink|Operation: Breakdown}}

[[Image:Crisscross-AirachnidSilas.jpg|thumb|right|250px|What a cute human... shame about the scars.]]
When MECH detected a Decepticon distress signal, Silas took a team to try to secure the Decepticon for MECH's use. Unfortunately it was bait, and [[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]] was the trap. Airachnid bargained with Silas — find [[Jack Darby]] and she would allow them to keep Arcee after she was done with her. Silas used MECH technology and the web to find information on Jack and had his mother [[June Darby]] kidnapped. Arcee and Jack were lured to a temporary MECH base in a factory. While Airachnid played with Jack, Silas, not believing the Decepticon would keep her part of the deal, ordered his men to extract Arcee's heart. Though the Autobot escaped before they could extract the part and Jack stole Silas's radio to contact Fowler, Silas at least got to witness Airachnid [[scanning]] a new alternate mode. {{storylink|Crisscross}}

[[Image:OperationBumblebee1 Bumblebee's operation.jpg|thumb|left|250px]]
A MECH team led by Silas successfully lured in [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]], who was stunned by their equipment. While Silas kept an eye out for Bumblebee's partner, the [[MECH Surgeon]] procured a [[transformation cog|T-cog]] from the subject, and Silas called a retreat. They installed it into the robot they'd built as part of Project Chimera, but to Silas's disappointment, it failed to work. Starscream, who had followed them to their base, pointed out that they required Energon to power anything Cybertronian. Starscream proposed an alliance to allow them to find Energon for them to share, which Silas accepted on the condition that there be enough for the army they intended to build. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 1}}

After securing a supply of energon, they made another attempt to activate the robot, only for Bumblebee to attack the MECH base. Silas was knocked over during Bumblebee's assault, and instructed Starscream to collect the T-cog and meet them outside. When Starscream arrived without the cog, Silas had the MECH troopers ambush him and take his. {{Storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 2}}

MECH found the remains of Breakdown and reported their find to Silas. {{storylink|Crossfire}}

[[Image:NemesisPrime curtains for Silas.jpg|thumb|right|250px| He thought of ten good reasons to never let go of a dime.]]
With the completion of [[Nemesis Prime (Prime)|Nemesis Prime]], Silas attempted to use their experiment to bump off Agent Fowler. When this failed, he instead used it to attack [[Alden Military Base]] to turn the military against the Autobots. This inevitably drew the Autobots to their base, and Silas used Nemesis Prime to deal with them, but while he was using Nemesis to fight Optimus, Fowler infiltrated the base and attacked him. While Silas was distracted, Optimus defeated Nemesis Prime, the mech falling through the roof on top of Silas. Gravely injured, Silas was spirited away by MECH and hooked up to life support. While the aurgeon stated that nothing could be done for his body, Breakdown's body provided an alternative. {{storylink|Nemesis Prime (episode)|Nemesis Prime}}

{{spoiler|The Human Factor|September 21, 2012}}
[[Image:TheHumanFactorCylas.jpg|thumb|left|250px]]
The operation was eventually completed, with Silas fully installed in Breakdown's body and brought back online. Redubbing himself '''Cylas''', or "CYbernetic Life Augmented by Symbiosis", the first thing he did was terminate the rest of the MECH team. Cylas then attacked a military base to retrieve the results of Project Damocles. When [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] arrived to look for Breakdown's signal, Cylas took the opportunity to use the Damocles satellite as a bargaining chip to join the Decepticons. [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] was skeptical at first, but had [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] dispatched to a base in [[Colorado]] to get the satellite control codes. Cylas assisted in the operation and when Raf tried to hack in, was sent to [[Jasper]] to deal with the boy. Before he could do so, he was attacked by Bulkhead and later [[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]], who kept him busy until the satellite was destroyed. Cylas was called back to the ''Nemesis'' where he was promptly shocked into immobility and hauled away to Knock Out's dissection table for his failure. {{storylink|The Human Factor}}

{{--}}

===Titan Magazines ''Prime'' comics===
[[Image:Titan4.5 Silas kick.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Right in the mean bean machine.]]
Soon after the bungled operation in which MECH teamed with Airachnid, Silas set out to get his revenge on Jack, directing his men to blow up schools. This eventually succeeded in drawing out the boy and Silas encountered Jack while blowing up [[Franklin High School]]. Trapping him in flames, Silas headed for the roof to evacuate by helicopter, only for Jack to follow him via the fire escape and deliver a kick to his nether regions. After taking a moment to recover, Silas took advantage of the helicopter to leave Jack on the roof of the burning building. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.5|School Is... Out!}}

Silas was pleased when [[Novo|Agent Novo]] discovered a [[neuron refractor]] in China and retrieved the schematics. As a reward, Silas gave Novo the privilege of being the one to have their mind transferred into the results of [[Project Mechanoid]], but as the refractor was in danger of overload, Silas's callous disregard for Novo's life resulted in his subordinate rebelling. Despite Silas's attempt to regain control of the situation, he had to retreat and the facility was destroyed. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.9|The Novo Incident}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Prime===
[[Image:Primetoy-BumblebeevsStarscreamSilas.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Next we demand Sierra.]]
*'''Bumblebee vs. Starscream: Ultimate Opponents''' (2012)
: Another release of Deluxe "First Edition" Bumblebee and Starscream comes with figurines of Silas and a MECH soldier, both armed with non-removable assault rifles. Although sculpted in the same style and [[scale]] as the previous Entertainment Pack figures of [[Jack Darby|Jack]], [[Miko Nakadai|Miko]] and [[Raf Esquivel|Raf]], unlike the three kids Silas has neither an articulated head nor is his figure stand removable. Silas' distinctive facial scars are not represented by either sculpting or [[paint operation]]s.

*'''Breakdown (Cylas) Silas''' (Voyager, [[November 24|11-24]]-2012)
**''ID number'': '''AM-24'''
**''Accessories'': Arms Micron
{{comingsoontoy}}

==Notes==
*Silas is voiced by [[Clancy Brown]], is essentially a supervillain, and opposes an [[Superman|alien being clad in red and blue]] whom he creates an [[Nemesis Prime (Prime)|evil clone]] of. [[Wikipedia:Superman: The Animated Series|Where have we heard this before]]?
*Silas seems to have a penchant for naming his projects after [[Project Chimera|Greek]] [[Project Damocles|mythos]].

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Prime humans]]
[[Category:Terrorists]]
[[Category:MECH]]

Talk:Puppet

2012-09-19T14:27:48Z

192.249.47.177:

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Overload forged by the Matrix/Minicons/Minicons via the Matrix when they brought Prime back to life? [[User:85.195.123.29|85.195.123.29]] 02:15, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

:Going from memory, the suit was seen in the matrix-vision for about 2 seconds during Prime's resurrection. So... yes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:20, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

:That's the IMPLICATION, though there was never, well, confirmation within the show itself. The ML Yearbook has a sidebar on Overload that MIGHT explain it. I know Ichikawa wanted to address the issue in Linkage, but didn't have the space to. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:23, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

::If there's an implication there should still be acknowledgment of it. It's still better than "Uh this guy showed up one day." [[User:85.195.123.29|85.195.123.29]] 02:37, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Just as so long as we don't imply there's anything more than an implication. "Uh this guy showed up one day" is much better than fanon. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:40, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Didn't you guys see the title of the previous episode? It was a MIRACLE - not because Prime came back to life (because he's bound to do so after inevitably dying), but its a miracle that this guy showed up out of nowhere! --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:35, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

==Nemesis Prime==
Why isn't he listed in the appearances? THIS IS THE ONE EP THAT FEATURES HIM!!!--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] 02:40, 9 June 2011 (EDT)

== Stephen Colbert Trivia ==

Where did this come from? I'm interested in finding out {{unsigned|Stardust262}}
:It's a joke. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 10:17, 19 September 2012 (EDT)
::Can you explain it? It doesn't really have the ring of humor to the uninitiated...[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 10:27, 19 September 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Mammoth Haken

2012-09-18T14:12:36Z

192.249.47.177: /* Name */

==Name==
If "Haken" is used in romaji somewhere then my info is moot, but {{nihongo|"Hāken"|ハーケン}} is the Japanese word for "Piton" or "Hook", taken from the German "Haken". I'm not sure what the tradition is, but "Mammoth Hook" would be the item name if you guys prefer to translate the Japanese names as done with [[The Water Gem of Stillness]]. It's not meant to be treated as a foreign-word approximation like katakana often does.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 10:12, 18 September 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Mammoth Haken

2012-09-18T14:12:24Z

192.249.47.177: /* Name */

==Name==
If "Haken" is used in romaji somewhere then my info is moot, but {{japanese|"Hāken"|ハーケン}} is the Japanese word for "Piton" or "Hook", taken from the German "Haken". I'm not sure what the tradition is, but "Mammoth Hook" would be the item name if you guys prefer to translate the Japanese names as done with [[The Water Gem of Stillness]]. It's not meant to be treated as a foreign-word approximation like katakana often does.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 10:12, 18 September 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Mammoth Haken

2012-09-18T14:12:04Z

192.249.47.177: New page: ==Name== If "Haken" is used in romaji somewhere then my info is moot, but {{nihongo|"Hāken"|ハーケン}} is the Japanese word for "Piton" or "Hook", taken from the German "Haken". I'm n...

Titan (group)

2012-09-13T20:09:23Z

192.249.47.177: /* IDW Generation 1 continuity */ fix?

{{disambig3.5|the tremendously huge and powerful Transformers|the ruined Cybertronian city|Metrotitan (ROTF)|Metrotitan}}
:''Metrotitans are a type of [[Transformer]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|continuity family of the same name]].''
[[Image:MtMtEAnn2012-Metrotitans.jpg|300px|thumb|Gotta catch'em all!]]
'''Metrotitans''' are giant city-sized bots, created millions of years ago by the [[Knights of Cybertron]] to act as their living ships, and capable of tremendous feats such as teleporting across vast distances. In addition, they had Super [[Spark]]s that allowed them to straddle multiple planes of existence where they communed and divined.

Known Metrotitans include:
*[[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]
*[[Metrotitan (Zone)|"Metrotitan"]]

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
These gigantic [[Transformer]]s first came into existence long before they became the Knights of Cybertron's chosen mode of transportation. At some point [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] used to pray in their shadow where he recited the Primal Sacrament in Old [[Cybertronian]]. One Metrotitan was used by the [[Circle of Light]] as a power source for [[Crystal City]] and teleported to a distant world where it remained in a comatose state after it used up all its energy. Following the reformat of Cybertron, the Metrotitan received the message ''"come home"'' but lacked the power to do so. Whilst inactive, it was reactivated by [[Rodimus Prime (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]'s crew on the ''[[Lost Light]]''. However, unable to teleport, the Metrotitan howled in frustration for not being able to achieve its mission and threatened to destroy itself as it was willing its Spark to leave its body. [[Brainstorm]] used miniaturization technology that shrunk the Metrotitan that provided it enough power to teleport away from the planet. {{Storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations}}

{{charstubfict}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1Metroplex toy.jpg|right|400px|thumb|Yeah, I saw ''Big'' and I went against it.]]
*'''Metroplex''' (Autobot City, 1986/2008)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-70'''
**''Accessories:'' Scamper, Scamper's arms/cannons (x2), Scamper's small laser pistol, Slammer, Slammer's turret, Sixgun's body/tower, Sixgun's chestplate/tower top 2 red cannons/Sixgun's legs, 2 black cannons/Sixgun's arms, Sixgun's laser pistol, double-barreled cannon, rear tower, shoulder antenna, 2 fists, 2 kneecaps, 3 missiles

: Metroplex transforms from a large robot to a multi-leveled "city" mainly for use with the smaller ''Generation 1'' toys. This mode includes a service bay with launching mechanism, a helipad, and "parking" for four vehicles in whatever his legs fold out to be. He also has a third mobile battle station mode; a more compact wheeled form that incorporates his many weapons. Additionally, his weapons are all moulded with universal-sized pegs that allow them to attached in several different configurations and locations (for example, in the otherwise-pointless holes in his kneecaps in city mode). Metroplex came with [[Six-Gun]], [[Slammer]], and [[Scamper]]; the first two formed various parts of Metroplex's alternate modes. Metroplex's kneecaps also connect in various places in slots on his legs, both in mobile mode, and in city mode on the opposite side (near the knee joint).

::*See [[Metroplex (G1)#Toys]] for more information

===Zone===
*'''Metrotitan''' (Decepticon, 1990)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-340'''

: A [[redeco]] of the Autobot [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]], Metrotitan transforms from a large robot to a multi-leveled "city". This mode includes a service bay with launching mechanism, a helipad, and "parking" for six vehicles in whatever his legs fold out to be. He also has a third mobile battle station mode; a more compact wheeled form that incorporates his many weapons. Additionally, his weapons are all molded with universal-sized pegs that allow them to be attached in several different configurations and locations (for example, in the otherwise-pointless holes in his kneecaps in city mode). Metrotitan came with [[Metroshot]], [[Metrotank]], [[Metrodash]] and [[Metrobomb]]; the first two formed various parts of Metrotitans's alternate modes. He was retooled to include a special Micromaster-style ramp with a unique attachment at one end, meant to utilize the attachment bracket for the "Scramble City" leaders' base modes.

::*See [[Metrotitan (Zone)#Toys]] for more information

===Transform Jr===
[[Image:Metroplex junior.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Metroflex''' (1987)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-70'''
**''Accessories:'' Black gun

:The ''[[Transform Jr]]'' version of Metroplex shrinks and simplifies the original toy, omitting his city mode, all of his partners, his antennae, and his entire armament save for one black rifle. Toy be ''plaaaaain''.
{{--}}

===Encore===
*'''Metroflex''' (2008)
**''Encore number:'' '''12'''

:In September 2008, Metroplex was reissued in Japan in [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s [[Transformers Encore|Encore]] line. This version features a minor retool to allow Slammer's gun turret to become the top of a building in city mode. The Encore version also has the chrome upper legs and rubber wheels of the initial releases.
{{-}}

[[Category: Generation 1 subgroups]]
[[Category: Mass-produced Transformers]]

Talk:One Shall Rise, Part 3

2012-09-11T17:30:42Z

192.249.47.177: /* Shockwave */ new section

As with the previous one, is it worth saying that this episode was shown today in Singapore? [[User:Daughter-of-Myou|daughter-of-Myou]] 12:26, 4 October 2011 (EDT)
::Yes. {{unsigned|209.51.184.13}}

Should It be mentioned that this is the first time an autobot says soundwave's name? {{unsigned|76.117.9.216}}
:I don't think someone saying someone else's name is particularly notable, unless it's a continuity error or something. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:20, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
:It's just he's never been referred or even mentioned by the autobots at all. I thought it was kind of interesting.
::Raf calls Soundwave by name in "Deus ex Machina", so I think it's safe to say the Autobots told the kids about him. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:50, 10 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Still the autobots never directly mention him at all. Just kind of interesting since every other con's (not counting vehicons) name has been said by the autobots on screen. Just something interesting to point out.
Since sections such as the trivia have been added to already, some points giving spoilers, would anyone like me to write up a synopsis for the episode? [[User:Daughter-of-Myou|daughter-of-Myou]] 05:09, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

When Optimus Prime opened the Matrix of Leadership, it looks as though it contains/contained a crystal shard of some kind. Should this be mentioned here? {{unsigned|Ultra Magnotron}}




Should it be mentioned that Megatronus has red armor in place of purple in the flashhbacks? [[User:TFfan1|TFfan1]] 8:02 October 15 2011 (EDT)

I think that may be a result of the "lighting" of the flashbacks, but it's kinda hard to tell.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:00, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

Should it be in mentioned in the notes that when the earthquake starts and Rachet moves to protect the humans that June and Fowler are behind the computer, but when the earthquake stops June and Fowler are beside the children?
:Time elapsed between the shots; who's to say they didn't immediately run to the cover Ratchet provided just as the scene switched? -- [[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] 16:05, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

That does make sense. Thanks. I watched the episode again and saw that`s what could have happened.

== Two things: ==

# The "continuity errors" list a contradiction in the fiction (ha ha) when Ratchet states the ''Exodus'' story wherein Optimus and Megatron split before the war, where "Darkness Rising" states that they fought alongside each other for a time before the schism. Could "Darkness Rising" not have meant that they were fighting a war of words against ''oppression'' together, rather than fighting an actual war with weapons?
# Whoever inserted the ''Prince of Egypt'' caption: You are awesome. - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 00:43, 23 October 2011 (EDT)

I agree that Ratchet's memory might not be faulty/there is a continuity error here. Megatron could of been participating in false flag terror against the High Council. In fact according to Ratchet, Megatron's solution was violence, but Orion Pax's was peace. I think it is stipulated somewhere in the novels or War for Cybertron that Megatron was playing both sides of the fence for his own ambition. So Ratchet was right. When they spoke before the High Council, Megatron and Optimus were allies against an insurgent threat created by Megatron to secure power. The Council either saw through Megatron's plans or were truly inspired by Orion Pax to deem Orion worthy of being the next Prime.
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag]

== Disasters ==

"All of the natural disasters around the world abruptly stop when Unicron is beaten. While it might make sense for the earthquakes to stop, tidal waves wouldn't just suddenly fall apart. Forward momentum doesn't just vanish. Similar problems occur with the tornadoes dissipating and the sky clearing."

I think the implication was pretty clear that the tornadoes and tidal waves were generated by Unicron, just like the rock titans. I mean, if he's creating the momentum itself to move them, it would make some sense that without that momentum, they just collapse.[[Special:Contributions/70.34.147.3|70.34.147.3]] 01:28, 13 November 2011 (EST)
:Momentum does not work that way. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:51, 13 November 2011 (EST)
::Momentum, right. Which is my point--Unicron is generating the momentum. It's not like he was using magnetism or gravity to hold the rock titans together, he was generating all of the motion with his being.[[Special:Contributions/70.34.147.3|70.34.147.3]] 01:55, 13 November 2011 (EST)
:::Momentum is not something you constantly generate unless you want things to go faster. Things in motion stay in motion unless an external force acts on it (and the natural resistance in those events is not enough to dissipate the disasters that quickly). Please go back to physics class. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:50, 13 November 2011 (EST)
:::Yes, please learn what momentum is. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:36, 13 November 2011 (EST)
::::I'm saying that Unicron isn't just creating a simple force that operates on the rocks and the wind and the water. It's very clear that he's using a supernatural power that would be very unlikely to require conservation of momentum. Honestly, with the powers we've seen him have, he could even be teleporting all the particles around, so they don't have any inherent momentum at all. As soon as his power was extinguished, the water, rocks, and wind lost what he had put into them. If the natural disasters were meant to be just natural results of Unicron physically stretching, then I stand corrected, but they seemed to pretty clearly be supernatural, and thus it would make perfect sense that as soon as the the source of their momentum disappeared, they would quickly collapse under gravity and friction. If anything, the earthquakes would be the ''least'' likely to stop abruptly, as they are explicitly said to be a natural reaction to Unicron moving around.
::::Even if you don't agree with my interpretation of how Unicron was operating (which I admit requires him to be ignoring standard physics), the storms were clearly freak occurrences that did not have the normal telegraphs--so it's unlikely that they were anything more than superficial, and there was clearly some influence from Unicron on keeping them going. Even if that's merely maintaining a temperature differential in the immediate locale of the tornado, or moving a wave of water, it's unlikely that he was controlling the conditions all the way to their normal genesis; for example, the entire heft of the ocean was not behind the tsunami. The implication is clearly that he was generating the tornadoes and the tsunami consciously, or their collapse upon his defeat would not make any sense physically or narratively; so even just on the basis of basic physics, the tornado would evaporate as quickly as a spent tornado would, the sky would clear up as it usually does at the end of a storm, and the tsunami (which was probably just a twenty foot wall of water without the full weight of the ocean behind it) would just fall over, getting the beaches a little wet. I don't think the wave falling over and the tornado evaporating should really be considered a technical error.
::::Also, I'm not edit warring, and I've not criticized either of you at all. Please don't attack me.[[Special:Contributions/70.34.147.3|70.34.147.3]] 04:18, 13 November 2011 (EST)
:::I'd hate to sound like I'm ganging up on you, but what you are thinking about is force. Explanation: Unicron exerted force on the world to create the earthquakes, tornadoes, etc. Once Unicron was beaten, he was no longer was exerting force on those things. However, the tidal waves and earthquakes still have momentum, which is a physical property of objects by themselves. The objects suddenly stopping without anything else acting on them would violate the principle of the conservation of momentum. The only way the objects would stop immediately would be if they collided another object with the exact same momentum, only negative (in the opposite direction). Therefore, the tornadoes and tidal waves would continue moving with their momentum without Unicron present. (Yeesh, I like physics too much.) --[[User:AutoUIMagnus299|AutoUIMagnus299]] 03:56, 13 November 2011 (EST)
::::No, I understand the difference, and it's not like I believe this would work in the real world; I just don't think he was actually exerting a force--I think it was basically telekinesis. Or even if he was exerting a force, it doesn't seem like it would be more than the bare minimum to spin the air or move that water. The thing that makes a tsunami so devastating is that it's not ''just'' the twenty foot wall of water, it's that more water is coming, that the ocean is behind it. I mean, if the options are "Unicron is using magic to mock up a tidal wave" or "the writers think that tidal waves fall over as soon as the earthquake stops"...it seems more logical to go with magic. I mean, hell, it seems like it would be more in the tone of the wiki to snark that Unicron can violate basic physics, anyway.
::::Merg. It's your guys's wiki, if you really think my interpretation is waterless, then I'll leave you alone.[[Special:Contributions/70.34.147.3|70.34.147.3]] 04:18, 13 November 2011 (EST)

== Shockwave ==

[[Out of the Past]] claims that Shockwave showed up in this episode, but he isn't mentioned on the page. I personally don't recall seeing him, can someone clear this up?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 13:30, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

Talk:New Recruit

2012-09-11T17:26:05Z

192.249.47.177: /* "Earth-mode kibble" */

== Explanation ==
I think Smokescreen may have slowly deactivated the phase shifter as he kicked though the Apex Armor. That is, assuming it works that way, which we don't know --[[Special:Contributions/75.82.9.197|75.82.9.197]] 14:08, 8 September 2012 (EDT)
:The operative words being "we don't know." -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 14:22, 8 September 2012 (EDT)
::We don't know how the Phase Shifter is designed to work. Therefore, I do not think we can call what happened on screen a "continuity error." What happened on screen is just how the Phase Shifter operates. If you want a theory: the phase shifter attaches to a Transformer's wrist and phases out all "Transformer matter" in continuous contact with it. So Smokescreen phased through the Apex Armor and came in contact with Starscream forming a continuous link of "Transformer matter" which phased both Smokescreen and Starscream all the way through the Apex Armor. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:30, 8 September 2012 (EDT)
::Or it could be like most other cases of phasing through objects in television, where the person doing the phasing can control which objects are passed through and can take other people through objects with them. So Smokescreen passes through the Apex Armor, comes into contact with Starscream and transfers some intangibility to him, and both come out the other side of the Apex Armor. Having control over the phasing also explains why Smokescreen doesn't just fall into the ground while intangible.--[[User:Megabob452|Megabob452]] 21:51, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

== Starscream ==

Can Starscream transform again?

Anonymous--[[Special:Contributions/173.57.44.147|173.57.44.147]] 00:27, 9 September 2012 (EDT)
I dont think.

== "Earth-mode kibble" ==

I apologize if I'm talking out of turn, but... is there a reason that editors keep bringing up the fact that characters already have the right body form for their future Earth modes? It's not as if this was a new thing invented by Prime... that's how it was from [[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1|day 2]]. [[User:Magaroja|Magaroja]] 21:57, 9 September 2012 (EDT)
:That doesn't change the fact that it's clearly an error.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 13:26, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

User talk:Detour

2012-08-29T19:03:15Z

192.249.47.177: /* Accents */

Will you please stop? You've been going in the same fucking circle for what, hours? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

==Daniel Ross at Botcon 2007==
I'll see your "Attendee", and raise you "Special Guest" with evidence straight from the official Botcon Archives themselves, lol. I confirmed this within the past hour with Mr. Ross via Facebook. Here's the Link to the archived "Special Guest" listing for Botcon 2007. [http://www.botcon.com/botcon07/guest07.cfm]

==Movie Jolt vs Movie Jolt==
Sorry if the post about Jolt not being confused with the previously released Jolt wasn't a good one... Just thought it was sort of a unique case that should be addressed, what with there being two movie Jolts, and unlike the 2007 one which didn't appear in any movies and has since been changed to a different character, also not appearing in the movies, the new Jolt is in the movie. I know that's what disambiguation is for, but I just thought it was an interesting bit of trivia that a movie character's name was already used in the movieverse, though for a different character. (not including the whole movie Arcee thing) -Cliffjumper Prime

==Megatron joke==
The monsters in MMPR always started out human-sized. Then, at some point, Rita throws her staff down from the Moon shouting "Make my monster grow!". The staff lands in the ground and energy shoots out of it, making the monster enormous. The laser effects around Megatron's cannon in that picture look a lot like the staff. Here is a YouTube clip of it: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUelB-OSneY]. Honestly, it's not a big deal to me, but the old joke doesn't really make any sense in the first place. It seems to be a premature ejaculation joke to go along with his cannon firing, but it's not like there's anybody else in the picture for the innuendo to be complete. I think the observation our anonymous editor made about the resemblance to the staff is actually pretty clever. A rare instance of somebody changing a joke for the better, IMO. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:Huzzah! I have a talk page now! Anyway, thanks for clearing it up... I didn't get the ressemblance of Bandora's staff to the laser blast effects of Megatron's cannons... At least I understood the previous joke, wasn't all that funny but it made sense without the explanation. -[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

== Revert Revert ==

Slaggit! This is like, the fourth time this has happened to me. I SPECIFICALLY checked with a preview when I was about to make the reversion, and it did NOT tell me any edits had been made since I'd started mine. Apologies for the confusion and annoyance, but I am definitely not doing this on purpose...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 23:39, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:No worries. I know it wasn't your fault. I'm pretty sure this happened to me at least once as well. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:11, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks. That actually makes me feel a lot better about it.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

==Treatment==
Hey, it's not uploaded anywhere anymore (but Don Murphy has no issues with us handing it around). I can send you the PDF, but I need your email. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

==Nunchakus==
His name is "Michelangelo". :) --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 14:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:My bad. Haven't watched TMNT since the original toon. And I was never into Renaissance art or whatever era the artist namesake was from. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Airazor caption ==

Hi. I was wondering what was wrong with the old caption for the Airazor photo.
:Essentially, there's nothing wrong with the toy so criticizing it like that is pointless. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::Okay. I didn't think the caption was meant as a criticism of the toy. I thought it was meant to point out that though she was designed as a female figure, she didn't really turn out looking any more female than any other Transformer (excluding Arcee and Thunderblast). But humor is subjective, and what I find somewhat funny might not seem funny at all to someone else.
:::Airazor was designed as a male figure. The toy/character only became female on the insistence of the show writers. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::::We're talking about the caption for the Transmetal figure. I thought that one was designed from the start to be female.
:::::... oh! Did not realize. Sorry. Ignore me. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

== Blurr ==

He is known to be a member, which should be enough, but he is also known to appear again later in the season, both through the footage from Dubai and the teasers released on the blog. That's why I said that I believed that it ws exception enough if he wasn't a member, it wouldn't need to be moved, but both together seem to be compelling enough.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:Look at your talk page, anything Dubai-related ''should not'' be discussed here in any capacity. We are not gloryhounds like Seibertron trying to be the first ones to announce every single giant spoiler of every single piece of media. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::That's great, but that's not what I am trying to say. He was announced as a character a while ago, before Dubai, and on one of the creator blogs. He's known to be in the Elite Guard, and we even know who his American voice actor is. We've even had him make his first appearance. Dubai just confirmed an episode he reappears in. That's all I'm trying to say - that we know he's in the guard, and we have confirmation from various sources of a future appearance. Hell, that we've listed his voice actor should be confirmation enough.
::And I didn't make the edit to spread spoilers - I did it to add info to a wiki, when the info is confirmed. Yes, we should not be obsessed with news, but neither should we put blinders on and wait until info is months or years old. (Hyperbole, but you get my point)[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

== Rabbicrater Edits ==

Just FYI, the edits HooperX made were capitalizing on the fact that Rabbicrater looks like his name contains the word "rabbi", when in fact it's meant to be most of the word "rabbit". The caption gag of "L'chaim" thus becomes more obvious, though I like the current one better. As for the miscellaneous trivia, I think it's an attempt at a callback to one of the final scenes from the Mel Brooks film ''History of the World, Part 1''. So not TOTAL nonsense.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 14:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:Oh, well I don't know much about Judaism so "L'chaim" is kind of flying over my head right now (and I believe even if explained, the Yaoi Kiss Players joke will still be funnier)... And the misc trivia, well History Of The World Part 1 is one of the Mel Brooks films I have not yet had the pleasure of watching... Even then, it's kind of out of place in the same paragraph as the info about the rabbit on the moon... if Hooper wants to bring it back I would suggest he add another asterisk paragraph to point it out... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::Long story short, a robot with the word "Rabbi" in his name, even if it actually has to do with "rabbit" is ripe for Judaism gags. "L'Chaim!" is a traditional exclamation of celebration. Originally, I was just gonna put the lyrics to Hava Nagila up there, but hey. The Kiss Players thing I had to stop and stare at - the two dudes humping are kind of cut out of the frame. But hey, whatever. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 15:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::FWIW, "L'chaim" is a traditional Hebrew version of "Cheers!" and literally means "To life!" I'm up for ethnic humor as much as the <s>next</s> previous guy, but I still find the KP gag funnier in this case. The thought of "Hava Negila" lyrics as a caption does make me grin, though...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Real Gear hairdryer ==

Good you took that out for now, I was just too exited to post a unreleased toy for the Movie line, so I did not stop to check if it was real or not. I'm currently looking for more info on it and will put that back up once I found proof.
By the way, what do the read minus numbers next to your edit mean?[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 12:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
-Edit, I fell for a joke! it was just a joke to take the piss of the US toy gun law.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 19:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:Number of characters (letters and spaces) added or removed from the total article length by this edit. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:45, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::....what? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:24, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

== Hi ==

I'm listening and I'm sorry [[User:Gyro-Robo|Gyro-Robo]] 22:43, 8 June 2008

== Mayhem Suppression Squad‎ ==

Hello ^^ I removed the [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]] from the [[Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] members because [[:Category:Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] is already under [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]]. Just like [[Killbison]] only under [[:Category:Breastforce]] which is contained by Combiners, Decepticons, and Victory characters. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 00:49, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

== 1989 Character Models ==
Howdy! I saw the Bumblebee & Jazz pretender models. Do you happen to have higher resolution versions of these images that you'd be willing to share with me? Do you have any more images from this era? (The Ark III needs your help!) --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:04, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

== Drift ==

Fine, have it your way! This site could be something awesome for everybody, yet guys like you persist in making it a refuge for your snide insults and negativity. --[[User:Hutch|Hutch]] 03:47, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:If it helps... even some of us here think Detour takes the AHM-bashing to ridiculous extremes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:23, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::Except a lot of what he yanked out was stuff not even written by me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:25, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Some of us are OK with desnarking the overly-snarked articles. Thankfully Rosicrucian just redid the removal. :P --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:29, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::::No, he yanked different parts, and rewrote another. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:33, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
Man, just let it go. We're trying to make the trivia sections ''smaller'', y'know.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:00, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

No! Much, much bigger! I'm good with keeping the Poochie theme for SL: Drift's page, but we really, really gotta get a reference to Rurouni Kenshin on a Drift image somewhere down the line! I can't imagine McCarthy not having Kenshin in some corner of his mind when he was creating Drift. "Oh man, he'll be an ex-assassin, with a dark past he regrets, and he carries a special sword! AWESOME!" --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 16:20, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

==Vandalism?==
Thanks for fixing my page, I appreciate it. Apparently Mr. Anon didn't take too kindly from me having to up and leave his little "discussion". People gotta go do other things besides argue with somebody on the other side of the computer all day. So do you know how severe punishment is for vandalizing someone's User Page?---[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:15, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:In this case, I'm inclined to believe it was a simple accident. The guy isn't really all that wiki savvy, and may have just clicked on your sig and thought it was your talkpage. He's... well, I don't hold any illusions he's going to be a productive user here, but he's on a dynamic IP and isn't outright harmful so I'm not sure what a block would accomplish.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:17, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::True, I didn't take that into account. I tend to jump to the vandalism claim (or any claim honestly) a little too gung-ho sometimes, and this is one of those times.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:27, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:::S'okay. I mean, I'd be lying if I said my cursor didn't hover over the block button on him while I thought about it. Trouble is his two IPs so far don't even seem to share a common subnet, so even an IP range ban wouldn't be viable. If he becomes genuinely abusive lemme know and I'd be happy to play whack-a-mole with his IPs.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:31, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

Sorry, I'm new here. Won't happen again, trust me.--[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 20:59, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

*Z-z-zay, is it no vandalism to undo the another's additionz-z-z-z without any explanation? What's wrong with z-z-z-z-them?--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 01:11, 1 December 2009 (EST)
:They didn't make any sense. You should stick to adding to the synopsis/etc. because your English seems to slip right down to nonsensical when you do captions. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:47, 1 December 2009 (EST)

==Barricade ROTF DS game==
Why instand of deleting it why dont you fix all my misspelling i have the game and all barricade parts are true.--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:So... the burden is on ''us'' to fix what you write?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:Because neither I nor anyone else on the wiki is your personal spellchecker. If you want your edits to stick, put some effort into it and that includes using proper English. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

== Ze little one ==

"The identity of ze little one is a bit on the fraught side. In the flyover shot of the barge on which the four Constructicons sit, a red bulldozer (Rampage), a concrete mixer (Mixmaster), a dump truck (Long Haul) and a yellow front-end loader are visible. The yellow front-end loader is the alternate mode of the Constructicon Scrapper, and ze little one's robot mode appears to be the same as Scrapper's. As such, the temptation to just consider this a Scrapper unit is great... except that, after the flyover shot, the yellow loader disappears, and is replaced with a yellow Volvo excavator, clearly marked with a large Decepticon insignia. For the purposes of reducing headaches, we're assuming that the excavator is the "correct" vehicle mode, and that it just happens to transform into a robot mode that resembles Scrapper...even though it's not him. "

I wasn't aware of the decision that had reached on the "Ze little one" page, so I didn't realize that this was the reasoning being used. I can agree with this, and I'm sorry the discussion got so hostile. Have a great week.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:30, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

== SG Ark & SG Nemesis ==

I'd just have Derik's bot fix those links along with the rest. I only fixed the others because there was about 2-3 links each instead of the 60+ for those two pages. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:32, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

==Thanks for giving me my username==

Seriously best alias ever [[User:Potty Mouth Anon|Potty Mouth Anon]] 01:55, 21 August 2009 (EDT)

== TFA: S.P.'s amnesia ==

You completely sure about that? Seemed like a kind of joke to me - Wasp going through this whole list of humiliation and Sentinel denying it while keeping a straight face.
EDIT: sorry for double posting, my browser's acting a little strange [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:26, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
:Except Sentinel finishes the scene by saying "Wait a minute, that was you?" He genuinely doesn't remember, only recalling it then and there. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:27, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
::Oookay, my bad. Seems like his ego is powerful enough to erase memories of minor, non-significant beings like Wasp, Bee or Bulky... [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:45, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

==Deaths of Optimus Prime "fanon"==
That... wasn't fanon. It was more awkwardly phrased, but consistent with how it was portrayed in the episode. Aerialbots even say, to my recollection, that there are "others at the hanger." Elita-1 was rebuilt. Dion wasn't mentioned. What part of that is fanon, and why did that give you the right to allcaps that dude into submission for it? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:17, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well it explicitly said in the anon guy's contribution way back there that "Ariel and Dion were also rebuilt" (followed by an awkward parenthesis saying Ariel at least). Plus, the episode itself is awkwardly phrased... Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel" as though he actually meant to say "there's another one back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel". After Orion is rebuilt as Prime, there's no concern for any "others" and they only speak of Ariel, whom Alpha Trion says he'll "send droids out for". No mention at all that he'd rebuild other casualties of the hangar massacre. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:32, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Another interpretation: Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, [for example] his girlfriend Ariel." Otherwise, he's not being correct when he says there are "otherS" there. Plural. I'm not saying that Alpha Trion rebuilt anybody other than Prime and Elita, or that we have any evidence thereof. I'm saying what the guy wrote, in that particular revision, was technically correct. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:50, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:::The ''best'' kind of correct. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:06, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

== the Peter Cullen photo. ==

I know the person who is in that picture. I thought it would be fun depicting him being the nice guy that he is. If you want me to identify where I got the image from, I can link you right to the source. [[User:Unicron|Unicron]] 02:59, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

== editing ==

sorry about the starscream page, but did you really have to edit out '''''everything''''' I did? [[User:Masterman555|Masterman555]] 22:54, 21 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well, yeah. You screwed up the formatting and the order of figures in the toy section, messed with captions and changed all the thumbnails to ungodly huge sizes. It's pretty standard procedure to undo that. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:14, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

== Robot Heroes Thrust eyes==
Thank you for correcting that, I just took an even closer look to the toy and realized I had made a mistake.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 22:39, 12 November 2009 (EST)

== IDW ==

Oh come on, dude. We can take the piss out of IDW sometimes, but that last edit was a bit much.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:43, 12 November 2009 (EST)
:Not even my words there. But like a lot have said... Continuum is pretty much the straw that broke the camel's back. And really, their own page needs a dose of piss-taking-out too, no matter how slight. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:46, 12 November 2009 (EST)
What Rosi said. No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:52, 12 November 2009 (EST)

==British English spellings==
Please read [[Help:Style_guide#National_varieties_of_English]], it mentions guidelines to spelling that may help you. As Club material is published by a company based in Texas, I went with the American English. Keep British English spelling in the UK articles. [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 10:06, 21 November 2009 (EST)

==Captions==
Detour, He-l-en has been contributing to the Armada episode articles in a generally positive manner. Please stop reverting her caption changes. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 05:27, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:Positive, yes, but thus far little more than minor summary changes in Armada... followed by large doses of captioning. I'll lay off since you asked me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:01, 29 November 2009 (EST) (I can still change his captions to different ones if I come up with better ones, though, right?)
::I am trying to handle the situation in a delicate manner; He-l-en is both a new user and someone whose first language is not English, so we cannot immediately expect her to know every facet of our policy right away. Reverting a person's edits without telling them why is not a good way to grow new users. I'm just trying to be courteous. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:15, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::Well, it's not like we don't always revert people who aren't doing anything but changing captions. He-l-en is at least also contributing a little bit of info, but we still generally tell people to leave the captions alone when they're new and just worry about adding actual info to the articles. (And it's not like we don't have plenty of Help guides available to read, either...) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 06:20, 29 November 2009 (EST)
::::''We'' know we change people's captions back, yes, but I am inclined to be more lenient to someone who has only been around for two days... hrm. Actually, I am inspired. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:57, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::::His English seems to have landslided down to "nonsensical" once he started editing captions... Can I revert those, at least? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:59, 29 November 2009 (EST)

== Sideways Part-swapping pics ==

Detour-
I do have pics of the part-swapped Sideways, however I am not sure how to upload them to the Wiki and add them to the page. If you'd like, I can e-mail them to you if you PM Ultrawave over at TFW2005 (that is my account). Unless there is another way to upload them that I am not aware of? [[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 04:20, 7 December 2009 (EST)

Made a Photobucket and uploaded my pic to satisfy your curiousity-- [http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af279/Blitzgear/DSCN0897.jpg] =)[[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 18:44, 7 December 2009 (EST)

== Sari Edit ==
why did you edit my addition to the page? what i typed was factual. --[[User:0utrun|0utrun]] 23:16, 30 December 2009 (EST)

== Blackarachnia "hit it with a shovel" joke ==

Why do you deem it so important to take the joke out? It works, it fills an empty caption space, so why? Seriously, Why? --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:09, 6 January 2010 (EST)

== Lockdown's position as a bounty hunter. ==

This isn't something like revealing the gimmicks to a toy or an electronic voice, or even a street date. It's no secret that the ROTF figure is based off a "bounty hunter", you've seen the card say he's a "bounty hunter" regardless if it isn't officially released, is the addition of a category "Bounty Hunter" seriously enough to get you this unnecessarily riled up? It's not like I'm saying something like he's an Autobot sympathizer or something. --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:20, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==Captions==
No one appointed '''you''' the master of captioning. You're acting like a goddamn jackboot, so take a time-out. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 02:59, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==My Grammar==
Well i going to tell you why i have bad grammar, i have good grammar BUT i type so freaking Fast in result i make typos, Aslo there some words that i cant spell, aslo i try to slow down but then i start to write fast again -Eagc7
: Then either slow down enough so you can write competently, or don't write at all so we don't spend so much time cleaning up your amazingly-sized mess. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38, 29 January 2010 (EST)

== Why did you remove my edit? ==

The article discusses fanfiction, so I named two common pairings as an example. It seemed relevant. [[User:CH|CH]] 16:25, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Because the fandom is so large, fragmented and clique-esque that there's really no way to measure what's relevant/common unless it's completely widespread, as in to the point that even average fans that don't read fanfic are familiar with the concepts used. Megatron/Starscream pairings probably predate Beast Wars itself, Starscream/Alexis was a freakin' epidemic for a time. Those are somewhat "worthy" of mention (in a squicky infamous way). Prime/Mikaela and Bumblebee/Sam, however? Although I'm not shocked they exist, I don't believe the average fans would know for certain that they do. And it isn't really quite as notable (again, Starscream/Alexis being an epidemic), no more than hypothetical pairings like Cheetor/Una or Sky-Byte/Koji.. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:37, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::''Friend of Autobots''
::''Sometimes he talks to me too''
::''My spark fills with joy'' --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:18, 8 February 2010 (EST)

== Right..... ==

[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Beast_Machines_(cartoon)&curid=15&diff=430695&oldid=430694 What was that weird edit summary all about?] --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:56, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Look at your keyboard, and look at each letter to the left of the letter I typed. :p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:12, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::It seems we use very different keyboards. All I'm getting is gibberish. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 09:32, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::It says "something's wrong with my eyes," okay? Big hairy deal. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== Double dash template ==
Works just 100% fine on Opera and in Firefox and in IE7, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. The whole purpose it was created was to clear things without creating gaps above the headers. So stop changing it every time I fix the formatting, as you're driving me insane and I'm going to start reverting you every time you do it. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:48, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Well it doesn't work on me in neither IE nor Firefox. So clearly the coding for it must be flawed somehow. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:22, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::IIRC, you're one of the folks using IE6, aren't you? That would explain that part, if so. As for Firefox, it works fine on Firefox for me, so I just don't know what you're talking about there. (I also checked IE7 and it works fine there as well...)
::But in any case, bring it up with Derik to fix any problems rather than constantly removing it, considering the whole reason the template exists to begin with is to solve an issue folks used to be griping about. About the only issue I've ever had is that there has to be no line return space between the dash template and the following header, but that's easily tweaked while editing. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah, I'm one of the five people on Earth still using IE6. I like the button layout better, sue me. But I do have Firefox 3.5.6 and <nowiki>{{--}}</nowiki> does the same amount of jack squattage. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:04, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::::You do realize button layouts are easily changed in most browsers, yes? (And I'd think lots of broken sites with missing features would be a bigger annoyance... having to surf using IE6 at one of my jobs last year was downright painful, it's missing so many useful standards.)
::::But, like I said, never had issues with FF at all. And even if there are, again, have Derik tweak the CSS, rather than unfixing the formatting fixes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:13, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== *sigh* "first edit ever" ==

fact is I've been editing over the years and adding useful tid bits here and there, but the wiki just can't seem to hold a proper account. so I start a new and get treated like a punk. gratitude for ya.

And yeah, the tone really isn't to my liking. Derek J Wyatt puts down Beachcomber and everyone treats it as canon that the character is not well liked. well I like him! And think the article should be more even handed.

So tell me, how am I supposed to get started here? I can't edit "the funny" as I've been told the last time I tried a permanent account, I can't help to rewrite an article, what do you want from me? When to I earn the right to call out the Beach Comber page for being offensive? --[[User:Stly92|Stly92]] 01:15, March 18, 2010 (EST)

== Jim-Bob's Diner is indeed a reference to James Roberts ==

[[Maximum Dinobots issue 2|Jim-Bob's Diner]] is, in fact, a reference to ''Last Stand of the Wreckers'' co-writer [[James Roberts]]. Nick Roche said it himself [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=161572#161572]. (At first, '''I''' thought--and was '''very sure'''--it was a reference to '''Jim''' Salicrup and '''Bob''' Budiansky.) --[[User:Jeff39042|Jeff39042]] 19:40, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
:Well then that belongs in the Notes... not a confusing random link in the middle of the synopsis. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:06, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

== Last Dutch Issue ==

The IP Anon [[Special:Contributions/195.240.16.74|195.240.16.74]] removed the "last Dutch issue" sentence from "[[The Void! (US)|The Void!]]" because he was shifting it to "[[On the Edge of Extinction!]]" Now, this may require verification (which is why I'm not undoing your reversal yet), but at least it's not a random act of Anon vandalism.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 11:24, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:Yeah, I reverted it before he did the rest. I don't know who to ask for verification, though. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:50, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::Looks like the anon was actually [[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] not logged in. Good enough to allow now, or do we still need a citation? Sunjumper mentions on his anon-IP talk page (linked in just above, there) where he saw mention of the last-issue status.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 13:13, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
:::If he's Dutch, sure. You're in the better position to make that call anyway. :p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:41, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Based on his recent contribution to the BW article, I'd say he his. Well and good, then.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 17:18, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

== Anon-made G1 Cast List ==

I'll grant I didn't do more than a rough glance over it, so I can't vouch for its accuracy, but it WAS in keeping with our formatting for other TV series' front pages. Granted, the cast's much larger and so may be too overwhelming a list for the page, but in principle, it wasn't a ''wrong'' idea. Might be worth adding a notice as to why the G1 TV series page would differ in that respect from other series'.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:29, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

== Toy Swapping ==

Look, I am sorry to keep adding tat. I just thought it was important to have in the article, because it was under the same idea. And just so you know, this whole website is full of crappy, big, poorly written sections and just want to help improve some facts not added. So you can take that comment and stick it were it belongs. I just tried to add something.

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== Toy Swapping 2 ==

I am sorry for the previous comment made by myself about the edit. I was in a really bad mood and would not tolerate anything. I will stop trying to edit or fix any articles to fix things that people deleted that I made. I do sincerly apologize. People have been quite rude to me on this website and I was starting to get stressed. Not to mention I have major anger manigment issues. I am quite sorry for my comments.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 12:37, 4 June 2010 (EDT)

== Hey. ==

Yo, be quiet bitch. {{unsigned|TheRex4441}}
:Keep it polite, please. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:39, 24 June 2010 (EDT)

== Prime VAs ==

The editor was right about Optimus & Megatron's VAs, he just didn't have the right source. (It was revealed in a recent BotCon panel.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:12, 26 June 2010 (EDT)

==edit war==
If this edit war does not stop in five minutes and people don't stop getting aggressive at each other, all three of you are getting a time-out. The note is pretty pointless, at best it would be only on Prime Soundwave's page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:28, 4 July 2010 (EDT)

==Translation help==
Hey, Detour. Since you speak French, could you help me by correcting any bad translations I have for the French ''Animated'' episode titles [[User:Interrobang/Crap|here]]? Thanks! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:24, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
:Done. Egads, epic fail on the dub team on translating Five Servos Of Doom. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:06, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
::Thanks! That was one of the titles that threw me off. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:21, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

== Cloaca joke? ==

Was there something wrong with [[Airazor (BW)|it]]? [[Special:Contributions/72.229.51.77|72.229.51.77]] 15:22, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

== Anon reverts==
When a dude changes something, and you change it back, and he changes it back with comment asking why it's changed... it might be better, if you're going to simply revert it again, to at least leave a comment of your own, explaining why? If he's explaining his actions, you owe that same courtesy back, even if he's in the wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:25, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
:You're absolutely right, and I can't for the life of me remember WHY I didn't do just that. It's been hectic in my neck of the woods these past few days, I apologize. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:02, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
::Come to think of it, I think the reason might've been that I meant to leave the explanation on his talk page, but ended up being sidetracked by other things. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:03, 28 July 2010 (EDT)

== Nice caption ==

<nowiki>:</nowiki>D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:40, 15 August 2010 (EDT)
:Hah, I was just waiting for someone to add a pic of him so I could throw add that caption. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:41, 15 August 2010 (EDT)

== Decepticon Drone ==

I am sorry. I thought it looked simmilar, due to the Red T visor, silver and black head, but not the body.

== [[Katsuyuki Konishi]] and [[Frank Miller]] ==

My joke(s) may be weak, but
#I wasn't violating any [[Transformers Wiki:Caption|caption policies]].
#I uploaded the [[Frank Miller]] image. I deserve a caption or something.
#[[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal#Links that overexplain jokes|Explaining the joke is not funny]].
#(Regarding the link I put at the Konishi caption):
:* A straight quote from Gurren Lagann isn't really very funny by itself.
:* Frank Miller isn't someone you'd think to find on TFWiki. I'd like to show people that he does belong here and how nteresting a coincidence it is, that ''both'' sources of the line contributed to TF. I imagine people reading the link would be like: "Oh yeah, there's also that. Wait, this wiki has an article on F. Miller? What has he got to do with TF? Gonna check that."
But really, I'm more upset about your changing of the caption at Frank Miller for reason number 2. [[User:Item42|Item42]] 10:38, 29 September 2010 (EDT)

== Why are you reverting everything? ==

Why the fuck are you reverting every single edit you see? Is that the only thing you can do? Is is your sole mission to not contribute, but revert everyone else who tries to? Sure, you could just change the singe byte of offending material, BUT NO, YOU HAVE TO REVERT THE WHOLE GODDAMN EDIT. You've been doing this for as long as I've been observing. Also, you've been up my ass about everything the whole time I've been here. Haven't you been blocked before for this kind of thing? --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:01, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
:Detour spends a lot of time on the wiki so he often sees poor/vandalistic edits before other editor do. Usually his reversions have been supported by the majority of editors, when he goes over the line Walky puts him in his place. My question is, why are you so sensitive? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:37, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
::If you've been up my ass too, you would see that this is the first time I've exploded over seomthing like this. I have been putting up with shit like this since I started editing here. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
:::I don't know, just looking over your previous edits you seemed rather upset about things on the [[Twitcher F451]], [[Derrick J. Wyatt]], [[Starscream (BWII)]] and [[Shelfwarmer]] pages. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:52, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
* WHY ARE YOU REVERTING EVERUTHING???????????????--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 10:15, 7 November 2010 (EST)

== Dalek ==

For your information, there is incorrect information on that page, that must be changed. The Daleks were never first called "Mark 3 travel machines" that is wrong. The were first called Daleks. The machine the ride in was first a Mark 1 Travel Machines, then a Mark 2 Travel Machine, and finally a Mark 3 Travel Machine. It was Davros who called the machine they ride in Mark 3 Travel Machine, but the creatures are called Daleks, and they were first called Kaleds before being mutated into Daleks. I don't know were the hell you got that from but they are also not cyborgs. They are creatures inside tanks basically. I was correcting that. Get your facts right before delete something I did. Trust me, I know more about the Daleks then you. Thus, my user name is LORD DALEK. That is why I am constantly changing that page. [[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 15:40, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:Except all that is irrelevant to what was said about Daleks within ''Transformers fiction'', which is what this Wiki is about. And I know plenty about Daleks. Don't assume you're some sort of lone Doctor Who fan on this wiki.--[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:42, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Fine, I will stop editing the part that is in the comic, BUT THE INFORMATION IN THE NOTES IS WRONG!!! And I also did not say anything about being "a lone Doctor Who fan" I just was saying you undid my edit that was correcting incorrect statements. [[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 15:52, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
: That thing Detour linked to when he reverted you sure seems to think you're wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::I found two sources that go against what LordDalek is claiming. One is a general science fiction Wiki and the other is the TARDIS Index File, the Doctor Who Wiki (which we link Doctor Who-related articles to). --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:58, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::ARGG! I have proof that what you said was wrong. Look, you right, they weren't called Daleks, nor they were Mark 3 Travel Machines. They were called merely mutants. Read this:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davros|His solution is to remove all emotions pertaining to weakness, a category in which he groups such emotions as compassion, mercy and kindness, and place the mutants in tank-like "Mark III travel machines" partly based on the design of his wheelchair. He later names these creatures Daleks, an anagram of Kaleds.][[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:07, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::: Yyyyeah. You seem to be quoting the fictional history at us, while we're talking about the actual behind-the-scenes history of the characters. The comment you removed will stay. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:11, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Actually, from a behind-the-scenes standpoint the name Dalek came first. But Who fiction-wise, it was established in a later serial (Genesis of the Daleks, the Daleks's origin story) that the original name of a Dalek was a Mark III Travel Machine. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_of_the_Daleks "At that moment, Davros enters the laboratory, and demonstrates his new "Mark III travel machine", which he later dubs as a "Dalek"."]. If you want the note to focus less on fiction and more on production, I can always tweak it. But it's still a factual note one way or another. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:25, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
Better yet, read this: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalek_variants|For the most part a Dalek is simply a Dalek.Notable exceptions usually refer to rank, such as "Emperor" and "Supreme Dalek", although in Genesis of the Daleks Davros refers to the newly created Dalek casing as a "Mark 3 Travel Machine".] For the last bloody time, Mark 3 Travel Machines refers to the CASING not the actual creature.
[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:14, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Listen ItsWalky, when the Daleks first appeared in 1963 THEY WERE CALLED DALEKS. Davros is part of the fictional history, and the real creator of the Daleks was Terry Nation, and he called them Daleks. There. I now have fictional and behind the scenes evidence. The comment must be removed.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:29, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::Why would you ''ever'' want to err on the side of ''removing'' information rather than clarifying it? When is less information better?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:15, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

== This place is worse than Nazi Germany ==

SIEG HEIL, DON'T FUCK WITH THE LITTLE TRANSFORMER WIKIPEDIA. WE ONLY LIKE SOME POINTLESS ADDITIONS, NOT A LOT.

Fucking hypocrites. You included, Spanish twit.--[[User:Tommy-Vercetti|Tommy-Vercetti]] 18:13, 8 November 2010 (EST)
:Please mind your language. And this kind of tantrum-throwing won't exactly have people joining your side in the argument. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:18, 8 November 2010 (EST)

== Fanmodes ==

I got the impression, per the "Fan-configurations of toys" discussion in the community portal, that we ''don't'' avoid fan modes, that brief mention of such is okay. [[User:JW|JW]] 11:58, 19 November 2010 (EST)

== Koiter brothers ==

Thanks for catching that spelling error I missed on their names! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:36, 21 November 2010 (EST)

== Grimstone ==

Grimstone's drones' Mini-Con compatibilities are '''not''' mentionned on their own page.

== Ahem ==

Why did you revert my talk page edit regarding the doctor who connection on Talk:Death's Head?
NVM I see, I screwed it up.

== Emperor of Terror Scorponok ==

What's wrong with his edits? He seems to be adding several paragraphs of information, which you delete entirely. I see one or two typos here or there, but wouldn't it be easier to fix those than just remove his large amounts of work whole-hog? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:03, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:Believe me, I've been mulling over that myself, but ultimately, it's more than just typos. A lot of his sentences just don't read right and would ultimately require full rewrites. Figured someone else starting again from scratch would be better than a Cleanup tag... But if I'm wrong in this, sorry. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:23, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:: The English doesn't really read that badly. It's simple, but better than the nothing we have now. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:29, 16 December 2010 (EST)

==New mexico vs. New Mexico==
Thanks, I totally realised the mistake soon after I made the page.
[[User:MadmanFoidart|MadmanFoidart]] 14:46, 10 January 2011 (EST)

== Reverting edits ==

May I ask why you insist on reverting my edits? Especially the one just now about TransTech Megatron's concept design matching almost-perfectly to ROTF Megatron's design, which I see far more-notable than the "Oh look, it's an H-Tank, it atuomatically links to Armada Megatron" trivia listed before it, which you have left alone.

For this particular case, it is not merely my opinion that the two resemble each other more, as a quick glance at the image displayed in the trivia section, let alone what that trivia links to off-wiki, shows a closer resemblance to ROTF than Armada, by far.
[[Special:Contributions/24.143.42.51|24.143.42.51]] 02:41, 27 January 2011 (EST)
:You're right, looks like I jumped the gun at that one. My apologies. Still, it could stand a rewriting to be a little less... dogpiley. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:35, 27 January 2011 (EST)

== Mindset ==

You said: ''It says the toy is a retool of Hailstorm, and Hailstorm was designed as the homage.''
If the Hailstorm/Mindset mold was designed as an homage to the original Mindset, then I don't see how the new Mindset could ''not'' be an homage to the original. Particularly since, given the way Hasbro is planning retools these days, the Hailstorm mold was ''always'' intended to be retooled into a Mindset. What is the distinction you're making? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:13, 7 February 2011 (EST)
:No ressemblance to the original character, for starters. If he was "clearly" intended as an homage, the head would surely have carried over the original character's visor at the very least, yes? And the colors, too. G2 Mindset was white, green and grey, this Autobot Mindset is blue and black. And lastly, the faction allegiance. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:22, 7 February 2011 (EST)
This is how I suspect it went down:
#Hailstorm toy was designed.
#[[Kyde]] was all, hey, dudes, that's totally Mindset.
#Hasbro decided to name its redeco "Mindset."
Somewhere in between 2 and 3, Toy Fair probably happened, when Aaron was all about how this toy was totally Mindset.
--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:20, 7 February 2011 (EST)
:Hmm, okay. Point granted. [[User:JW|JW]] 07:22, 8 February 2011 (EST)

== Motormaster ==

I think the one that said Motormaster's size change is right, because Motormaster is the same size as Optimus, while Optimus has the same size as Motormaster in car mode, both of them with their trailers, i think there's size change in there.

--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 19:24, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
:Yeah, and there's a [[Powertrain|freighter truck]] that transforms into a robot that goes up to Prime's shin. Scale doesn't mean much in Transformers, you have Porsche Jazz towering over Porsche Cliffjumper and Jeep Hound towering over Jeep Brawn and F-15s turning into robots the same size as Lamborghinis. It's a dumb thing to note. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:39, 14 March 2011 (EDT)

== Windcharger ==

"This was removed before because it's false. Don't add it back" How is it false?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 23:09, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

==Bumblebee==
BOTH of you knock it the fuck off or you're both getting put in a corner for a while. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:45, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

== DOTM Bumblebee ==

Just to clear things up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpqamRtmGRE&feature=feedu the maker of the video says:
because this figure is smaller than any other version of bumblebee, they technically are all brand new parts. They couldn't reuse any other Bumblebee parts cause they no longer would fit.--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 15:33, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

==If you don't like Robert Stack==

You should say so when you're taking funny things he said from the Ultra Magnus page. It's not as if the image even had a caption before, could you not have left it? I ask because since you didn't give a reason, it ''looks'' like you revert all IP edits you see on principle, without checking what was actually changed. Busy schedule? [[Special:Contributions/92.13.226.232|92.13.226.232]] 19:48, 5 April 2011 (EDT)
:Detour doesn't always check properly what an anon added, but he does check. On captions, the rules are very clear though: If you have not contributed to the wiki in a meaningful way, you are NOT allowed to add or change captions UNLESS you have asked permission first on the article's talk page. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:00, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

== Inferno (BW) ==

May I just ask why did you undo the caption edit?
: Because you replaced an existing caption with a YouTube link. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:: Are YouTubes links forbidden? I do believe I saw them in captions on this Wiki before. --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]]
::: Well, first there's the problem of ''replacing an existing caption.'' It's frowned upon. Second, a little '''[1]''' under an image isn't a caption. It's just a link. It's not pretty or witty, it's just an unmarked link. Captions should be captions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:::: Well, yes, I suspected (now I know for sure) that much (the "frown upon" part), and that's (partially, anyway) the reason I've never edited a caption before. But no, wait, I was pretty sure that when I checked the article after the edit there was blue text "nope.avi" in the caption that was a link to a video, not just "[1]". Or am I missing something? --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]] 14:59, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Also, to further clarify things, I'll give this link: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nopeavi You can even find the screenshot the caption of which I changed in the related pictures there. I hope that article will be clear enough explanation of my motive to change the aforementioned caption. --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]] 02:29, 13 April 2011 (EDT)

== Regarding the edits Eagc7 made ==

Apparently you haven't read the [[Megatron (Movie)]] article in awhile, because Eagc7 was just trying to help out. [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Megatron_%28Movie%29&diff=484337&oldid=481886 Xaaron made this edit] almost a year ago, most likely because nobody bothered to fill out that section since 2007. Nobody objected. Eagc7 evidently noticed this and was trying to make the other articles consistent. I think you should have questioned his motives before insta-reverting them. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:37, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

== Mech-Tech page ==

The only reason it was "Just a list copied from the DOTM page" is because he HADN'T FINISHED THE PAGE YET --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:08, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
:It shouldn't be a list, it should be a description of the gimmick, like our [[Automorph Technology]] and [[Mech Alive]] pages, that's why it's tagged, it's even explained in the tag. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:14, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

== Fusion Cannon ==

You have undone my edit of Movie Megatron's fusion cannon twice now and I am wondering why? In the 2007 movie at 1:57:13 you can clearly see Megatron shoot Jazz with his fusion cannon from his RIGHT arm. I just watched it, so I know I am correct. If you have a good reason for undoing my edits, let me know, but until then I am just going to keep changing it back. --[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 02:43, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
:You didn't watch well enough. That's '''Jazz''' shooting Megatron, not the other way around. By contrast, Megatron's fusion cannon is clearly in his left arm, as you see Prime shoot him off balance before he fires, but he turns around, cannon clearly on his left arm, re-aims and shoots. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:05, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Sorry but you didn't watch well enough. '''Jazz''' does fire first, then '''Megatron''' fires and Jazz goes flying. I haven't watched the battle with Optimus recently, so it may be that Megatron also has a fusion cannon in his left arm as well and can combine both to make them more powerful. --[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 10:00, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Maybe it's a different weapons system, but do you have any evidence to back that up? I'm assuming you have finally accepted that Megatron does shoot Jazz with his right arm and you watched the entire scene. The blast was blue like the blast from the combined fusion cannon and his fusion cannon from ROTF ,and it was very powerful, as it sent Jazz flying much in the same way as it did to Optimus in ROTF. Also, he lost his left arm at the end of the first movie, and if it were solely stored in his left arm, it would not have been present in ROTF. It's probably pretty safe to assume that "the Little One," who provided Megatron with parts did not possess a fusion cannon and the "Doctor" did not build a completely new one. IF you can come up with a better arguement than that or provide some official source material, I'll leave it alone, but if you keep using an ambiguous arguement I'll just keep editing the article.
:Do you have any evidence that it '''is''' his fusion cannon? A single blast from said cannon sent Optimus Prime, OPTIMUS PRIME, flying over a full city block into a building, while Jazz barely flew a few feet. But hey, for added evidence, [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h56m39s185.png this] does not look like either [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h57m49s50.png this] or [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h58m11s5.png this]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:01, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
No I don't have any evidence that it is a fusion cannon, but I think there is a better argument for it being a fusion cannon than not, as I stated above. And yes Jazz did only fly a few feet, but maybe that's because the fusion cannon was not at full power because it was not combined with Megatron's left arm. As for the pictures, they don't look anything like the crab claw fusion cannon, yet that is still a fusion cannon. I'm not trying to jerk you around; this is just how I see it and a lot of this is just opinion because Hasbro or whoever hasn't officially detailed anything. Maybe we could ask someone else who edits this Wiki for their opinion on it and just go with that?
:That doesn't work, because as my screenshots show, the fusion cannon is ''entirely part of Megatron's left arm''. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:23, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
How does that explain how his fusion cannon moved from his left arm to his right arm? I don't see the problem with what I wrote, because it leaves the statement you wrote about the fusion cannon being stored in the left arm and it touches on the blast that was fired at Jazz with his right arm. It says nowhere that it '''is''' definitely a fusion cannon. All I wanted to write was that there is a possiblility that his right arm is a fusion cannon, or at least part of a whole. The scene with Jazz is up for interpretation, but I think it should be added so others who read this article can decide for themselves. As far as getting someone else's opinion, you will have to get someone to help with that. I don't know how to ask any of the main editors and I assume you probably do. Just have them comment in this section with an opinion on it.--[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 1:39, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

==why didnt you jsut fixed it?==
instead of removing all i wrote on the movie Starscream page, why didnt you just Fixed my typos and mistakes? {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Because I couldn't even understand what it was you were trying to say. Your poor English goes far beyond simple spelling errors. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:46, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
::Okay, in that case, lets keep a Character Stub template (which i already did) {{unsigned|Eagc7}}

== Dude, STOP. NOW. ==

Abra cannot learn Hypnosis. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 23:19, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
: Seriously, you are now the wiki's worst vandal. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:31, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

== The Autobot Hero ==

I had thought of reverting his edit to Fire on the Mountain the same as you did, but decided against it as the internal link was a redlink. Are we planning on having an [[Andes Mountains]] page? If not, he actually did the right thing. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:13, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:Well, [[Peru]] wasn't a redlink. Standard seems to be that locations where stuff happens in fiction deserve wiki articles. The Andes mountains do come up in both Fire in the Mountain and the Japanese PS2 Transformers game, so the location deserves a proper TFWiki article, IMO. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:17, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
::And the Kid Stuff audiobooks have the Andes partially destroyed in "Storms of Destruction". [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:48, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:::Thanks for that! Added the link to it too. I'd love to make a page for it (being the huge Mysterious Cities of Gold nerd that I am) but since I don't have access to any of the material they show up in, there isn't much I can do. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:56, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

==Editing==
I read the "Help:Editing" page.-[[User:Dirgeor|Dirgeor]] 20:02, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

== Crowbar ==
I'm quite not sure why you removed my photo of Crowbar. Can you please tell me?
:Because it's a horrible shot that barely shows Crowbar at all, if that's even him. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:05, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
It is him, you can clearly see Crankcase in another shot. I can understand that the shot wasn't great, but it's better than an inaccurate representation of him in Cyberverse form.

== Crisscross "Error" ==

Rather than risk a revert war, I'll simply discuss the matter here first.

If the package was delivered to the garage while Arcee was away for some unknown length of time, why should she question its origin? I still say someone from MECH could have broken into the garage, delivered the package, and locked up on their way out, thus accounting for the package's presence. (Yes, it's something of an error not to explain it in-story, but I think that's at least a feasible explanation.)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 02:05, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
: That's how I read the sequence of events. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 04:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
: You make some good points. But after even two watchings the whole thing still felt weird. When you stop and think about it, only Jack or June could've taken care of the package... If Arcee assumes June has... she'd know Arcee wasn't in the garage. So... why's she so casual about the package? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:06, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
:: My postman leaves packages in my garage all the time if I'm not there to take delivery, honestly. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

== Editing ==
Can we please discuss our debates before filing pages for deletion? I have a strong argument. Please just listen to me.
-[[User:PurpleCyclops|Caleb]]
:No. You don't. Preliminary names are just that, '''preliminary'''. We're not calling Mirage "Rush", and the same applies to Crowbar and Hatchet. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:18, 3 July 2011 (EDT)
Rush isn't the final name for Mirage. Hatchet is a typhoon fighter jet. Crowbar is a Carbon Motors E7 Police car. The trio in the film are suburbans. This is not the case of renaming them. This is the case of '''different character'''.
:No, this is the case of '''different altmodes'''. Do we consider Sideways anyone but Sideways? Because his toy sure as hell wasn't a screen-accurate Audi, and didn't even use the proper color scheme. You're being utterly ridiculous. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:38, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

I was saying that the characters were most likely different since they hadn't the right altmode or altmode size, since Hatchet would be much too big to be a suburban, if he was a jet, and Crowbar would be too small if he was a police car. Sorry bout everything though, I agree, my argument '''is''' ridiculous.

== Joke ==
By reference, I meant a reference to something. A joke. Jokes aren't meant to be useful. And this wiki is full of them. One on almost every image. Which isn't very useful, when they could have a informative caption. But that's one of my favorite things about this wiki. It's humor. Once again, I find you reverting anything I post. Can't I just add a simple joke that can appeal to some people, without attracting the attention of you?
:It's humor, yes, but it's still a wiki. Signal to noise ratio is the key here, and smashing a bad joke about train delays in the first sentence of Astrotrain's bio isn't the way to go about it. Signal to noise, the wiki must be funny but also informative. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:21, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

You do have a point. I agree it is still a wiki, and it's not that informative. However you kind of missed the joke. A popular quote in a T.V. show about trains from my childhood was when the person would scold the train, he would say "you've caused confusion and delay". Nothing to do with train delays.

== Spam ==

Does [[User talk:Dynamic|THIS]] count as Spam?--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 15:39, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
:Not really. Spam is more people and/or bots trying to scam people with advertisements. Dynamic's talk page doesn't fall into that. I'm not sure what he's trying to do, either he's trying to share an easter egg with the wiki or he's trying to spark a discussion, either way it's not really spam. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:16, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
== Volume Number ==
Woops, sorry about that. After that anon troll was just going around changing tiny things on the year pages, I ended up with a bit of an itchy trigger finger. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:13, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

== Dave Fennoy Picture ==

Hi There. Could you find a picture of [[Dave Fennoy]] for his page?

== Doctor Arkeville in sound and furry ==

When the Hot Dog Bot rebels the man he is serving has the distinct rounded triangle jaw and mad scientist like hair style of G1 villain Doctor Arkeville. can you tell me anouther human character in either show has one of these characteristics yet he has both of them, it is pretty clear he is a homage to the classic decepticon allied human please stop reverting this
:Yeah, and I suppose Doc Brown is a Doctor Arkeville homage too? It's very common for old men to their hair up top, have their hair lose color and get a longer jaw. Just because one incidental character sported those features doesn't automatically mean HOMAGE. Please stop grasping at straws. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:37, 10 October 2011 (EDT)

:Doc Brown did not have a triangular rounded jaw and as for the hair several scientist in fiction have it as homage to Albert Einstein. However I am not aware of any other transformers characters that this hair style. Plus I have never seen or heard of anyone getting a longer jaw when they got older. It is not grasping at straws as much as seeing a comparison somebody made between the two and adding it here.
::No metal hat & hand = No Arkeville. --Thy2k, not logged in

== Found cosmos art from official artist! ==

I found some art of cosmy! should we replace the main page now? its from the official artist's deviantart page, sides we got most of the moving violations character photos from devianart too. for cosmos art see link http://tehkoreandude.deviantart.com/gallery/24312266#/d3lnp2f --User:Jazzerprime
:That's not official Transformers art. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:31, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

== Tell me ==

Do you actually look at people's edits before you revert them? --[[User:TheOnlyChoice|TheOnlyChoice]] 04:13, 16 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yes. And you only had two edits the last one a month ago, before suddenly declaring yourself the lord of what's sucky or not. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:22, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

== It's true. ==

If they hadn't fallen in because of the surge, five seconds later, it would have turned them into transmetals and the lava wouldn't have had any more effect than a hot bath. If that doesn't describe irony, nothing does. [[Special:Contributions/70.77.36.81|70.77.36.81]] 20:40, 30 October 2011 (EDT)
:I don't recall lava immunity being a Transmetal power. Just because Tarantulas survived it doesn't mean everyone else can, nor dor it indicate that survival was directly due to Transmetalness. Also, noting it purely out of "irony" is like saying it's ironic Ironhide's shuttle was on an Energon run because if they weren't low on Energon they would've survived the Decepticon attack. It's silly and pointless. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:44, 30 October 2011 (EDT)

== Can you Remove ==
Can you remove "Luis Daniel Ramírez" page, since it seems this guy Arturo Castañeda is going to be Jack Darby voice in the spanish dub of Prime {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Sorry, I'm not a mod or an admin here so I don't have the power to do this. I'll tag it for deletion, though, if that help. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:28, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

== image tags ==

There are always stupid tags to images on a number of pages could you please stop putting these corny and rediculous tags. {{unsigned|108.66.204.65}}
:If by "tags" you mean the captions, then I recommend you familiarize yourself with [[Transformers Wiki:Caption|the wiki's policies regarding captions]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:56, 10 November 2011 (EST)

== Arcee ==
Thank you very much for restoring that caption. Much appreciated. [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 03:34, 26 November 2011 (EST)

== "Double Bruticus" ==

And the reason to remove the comment was...?
: The wiki in general does not cover unofficial fancreations. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:58, 8 February 2012 (EST)

I guessing you think you have everything in Transformers prime, right?

== Steeljaw/Red Alert link ==

Huh. Didn't even see that link between the two. Thanks. Should the minor edit to [[Final Transformations]] be reverted to the Red Alert article as a whole, or keep the link to Red Alert's G2 (and only Marvel) appearance?
[[User:Pakopako|Pakopako]] 22:57, 29 February 2012 (EST)
:No, linking it to the G2 section was a good idea, since it refers to that specific event. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:09, 29 February 2012 (EST)
::Heh. Apologies about that. My connection is stuttering at the moment. [[User:Pakopako|Pakopako]] 00:36, 1 March 2012 (EST)

==Why do you delete my...?==
excuse me why do you delete my dreadwing image?
:Because it already existed on the wiki in its proper place. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:39, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

why have you deleted my leadfoot foto?[[user:Shockwave1704]]
:Because it has no reason to be in the Notes section. The Notes section is not a place to arbitrarily put whatever image tickles your fancy. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:39, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

the other user has told me to put the image there [[user:Shockwave1704]]
:Andrusi said '''maybe''' if you followed proper [[Transformers Wiki:Images|image guidelines]] that it ''might'' be able to go in the Notes section, not that you could just put it in the Notes section. And even then, as he himself admits on the Leadfoot page, he was wrong on that count. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:51, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

so i can't add this image nowhere[[user:Shockwave1704]]

are you french? --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 12:18, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
: No, he's Canadian.....--[[Special:Contributions/81.164.215.61|81.164.215.61]] 12:19, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

ah ok, because there are some sentences in the france article that could be offensive --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 12:31, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

In World War II, France surrendered in the face of foreign invasion, leaving the population to suffer under a genocidal dictatorship for four years. This is seen as a source of hilarious jokes by some other nations.
[[User:Shockwave1704]]
:I don't really see how that's offensive. If anything, it reflects poorly on the aforementionned "other nations". =p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:50, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
::yes, but in this article French army = cowards--[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 15:01, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
:::No, the article says that people from other nations like to make jokes about the French being cowards. That is not the same thing as saying that the French are cowards. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:06, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
::::i disagree with you, but if you think so...--[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 15:26, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
:::::I really think this is a symptom of your level of English comprehension. To a native English speaker, the paragraph you quoted says exactly what I said it does. It is hard enough working in a language that you do not speak fluently, dealing with all of the humor on this site will make it even harder on you as many of the jokes simply won't translate. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:21, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

in my opinion humor is a symbol for every country. Italian people have got their humor, French people have got their humor, English people have got their humor. So it's possible that Italian people think your humorism is a little offensive. --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 08:57, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
:No, it's your tenuous grasp on English that's making you miss the joke. Now drop it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:12, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

what? no, in my opinion you don't appreciate our humor because we are very different. I don't want to criticize you, but everyone can think how he wants --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 10:25, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
:I haven't seen any instances of your humor anywhere. It's just clear you don't even ''get'' the damn joke. So drop the subject. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:33, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

Bah --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 10:37, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

== Jokerberg ==

I love your Jokerberg statement when you edited [[Daran Norris]].--[[User:Ultra-Humanite|Humanite]] 22:18, 20 March 2012 (EDT)
:Thank you! --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:15, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

Thanks for fixing the help page. XD [[User:Jacktransformerdude|Jacktransformerdude]] 00:47, 21 March 2012 (EDT)

== "Useless padding" ==

I sort of chuckled when I saw this line from you, good on you for having a sense of humour about it. :)
I couldn't help but notice, friend, that about a third of the information on this entire Wiki is "useless padding", meaningless trivia put there for no reason other than to impart interesting information to the reader. And of the remaining information, about a third of ''that'' is flat-out jokes inserted simply to make people laugh. Looking over the rest of that one page, off the top of my head, Toronto being the biggest city in Canada has absolutely nothing to do with Transformers, and the relationship between 'there are no Target stores in Canada' and Transformers is so tangential that it's just about on the same level. So I ask you, why did you ''really'' remove that information from the page? Really, if I don't know, I won't be able to avoid the mistake in the future. [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] 22:19, 7 May 2012 (EDT)

== Periods and Spaces ==

Oh, it's no trouble, friend. I just copy the text of the page from the edit window into notepad and then find-and-replace ". " with ". " to fix it up. Then I just copy it back over and go on with my regular correction of spelling errors and grammar checking. It's easy, and it's my pleasure to improve the quality of the Wiki. :-)
Also, some interesting reading for you to back up my position: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] 23:43, 9 May 2012 (EDT)
:You're missing the point. It DOESN'T improve the quality of the wiki because it ISN'T WRONG. The link you provided is to an OPINION PIECE. It is the policy of this wiki that we don't care whether you use one space or two after a period and that there is no need to change one for the other. It's kind of like how we do not have a preference between US and UK spellings. Also, "friend", you are coming off rather smarmy and condescending here. That is not likely to get many people to back your position.--

== Subscription service figures ==

I had put those on the 2012 listing because that is what the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] page said. Should we change that page? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:02, 10 May 2012 (EDT)

== Faceless tags ==
I'm not the one removing them. [[Special:Contributions/TFMAN|TFMAN]] is. I just remove what he puts there in place of them. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:40, 18 May 2012 (EDT)
:Use the Undo button, that way you undo all the things he's changed, rather than just removing what he's added without putting back what he's removed. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:41, 18 May 2012 (EDT)
::Alright, will do. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:43, 18 May 2012 (EDT)

== Vocab ==

I have a pretty good vocabulary. Plus the captions were for a lot stuff I remember growing up as a kid. Good Times Huh? The Picture for [[Tim Curry]]'s page was just Wow. I have never seen that movie before.[[User:SirSpoonwave|SirSpoonwave]] 02:16, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

== Allspark Addendum ==

Thanks for help on the SG Animated pages. I'm used to making minor edits, and I don't have much experience on templates besides the bunny rabbit page. ([[Special:Contributions/184.56.31.203|184.56.31.203]] 19:01, 31 May 2012 (EDT))

==IDW==
If i'm doing such a bad job, why don't you do those articles then? I've been at it forever, trying to edit that thing. Ed
: It would help if your additions were about the characters the article is about. Most of your "How Ratchet Got His Hands Back" additions to First Aid's page were about Ratchet! And it didn't mention at all that First Aid was promoted to Chief Medical Officer, which is the most important thing that happened to First Aid in that issue. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:06, 4 June 2012 (EDT)

== Animated toy/merchandise section ==

I added "Fast food kids meal toys" subsections to [[Megatron (Animated)]] and [[Starscream (Animated)]] pages. With that, the pages got the same "Toys" layout of [[Optimus Prime (Animated)/toys|Optimus Prime (Animated)]] and [[Bumblebee (Animated)]], with an Subsection for each "toyline". If the subsection is wrong, it need to be removed from OP and BB pages. If the subsection is OK, why you removed they from Megatron and Starscream page?

And why you put the toys as available "only in Mexico and Venezuela"? I am in Brazil and have to eat some McDonalds Happy Meal to have my toys. Probably the toy was available in all Latin America (but this is a guess, for sure it was available in Brazil).
:The subsections are present on Bumblebee and Prime's pages because they have a '''huge''' amount of toys and merchandise to their name, which requires extra subsections. By contrast, Megatron and Starscream's numbers are more manageable, hence why the fast food premiums aren't categorized the same way. You'll notice Megs and Screams don't have subsections for Activators, Deluxe, Voyager, etc. either.
:As for why I only said Mexico and Venezuela, that's because that's all that's listed on the [[List of Transformers restaurant promotions]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:39, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
::Makes sense, but Starscream have the "Universe (2008)" subsection. Don't know why the "Fast food" subsection hurts, but will not re-add it, I was only trying to make the toy sections of each character more or less with the same layout/design. Before I waste my time, I have a lot of Merchandise itens to add for Megatron and Starscream (more for Megatron than for Starscream), it's OK to create an Merchandise section? I'll edit the [[List of Transformers restaurant promotions]] to be more accurate and include Brazil there. --[[User:Sharpfinger|Sharpfinger]] 20:48, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

==Shattered Expectations reference in Triage==
It's a rather obvious nod to it. If that's not considered a reference than you might as well not consider the "Beast Machines" line in TMI as a reference. {{unsigned|108.11.36.231}}
:Shattering expectations is a commonly used term, hence why it was fan-applied to Shattered Expectations proper. It's not a reference. Stop saying it is. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:34, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
::If by "fan-applied" you man "the writers of the comic actually named it that", sure. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:49, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
::But it's almost completely out of place. That's like removing the thing about Hardshell saying "yes" in Toxicity by that logic.
:::It's not out of place, he just shattered Soundwave's visor, and that's the joke. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:09, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

== how to act towards others ==

I think for someone who acts like they own the wiki you should think about how you talk to poeple. As a member of the wiki you should show a little respect towards your fellow members start deleing peoples posts with out saying why and then starting personal attacks is a big no you make yourself look bad and the wiki.[[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 13:45, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
:I started no personal attacks. You, on the other hand, called me an a-hole. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:55, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
I think he's just suggesting stuff, right? (lobythelegend 13:49, 22 June 2012 (EDT))

:I know you're angry, but why is that it seems that you're always in a bad mood to everyone who messes up in the Wiki? lobythelegend 13:46, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

== Accents ==

Ah, I had forgotten that. May I suggest this, then:
:The ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'' film in 2007 takes the alternate tac that Optimus Prime and his troops learned Earth languages — including English ''and'' Mandarin Chinese, according to the novelization — by studying the [[Internet]]; presumably, each Autobot chose the accent that best fit their natural voice. In contrast, the Decepticons generally use the Cybertronian language. This distinction is lost in the sequels, in which all Autobots and Decepticons speak English even when, canonically, they have had no prior contact with the language.
'cause we really need to get rid of the paragraph that is there now.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 15:01, 29 August 2012 (EDT)

User talk:Detour

2012-08-29T19:01:30Z

192.249.47.177: /* Accents */ new section

Will you please stop? You've been going in the same fucking circle for what, hours? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

==Daniel Ross at Botcon 2007==
I'll see your "Attendee", and raise you "Special Guest" with evidence straight from the official Botcon Archives themselves, lol. I confirmed this within the past hour with Mr. Ross via Facebook. Here's the Link to the archived "Special Guest" listing for Botcon 2007. [http://www.botcon.com/botcon07/guest07.cfm]

==Movie Jolt vs Movie Jolt==
Sorry if the post about Jolt not being confused with the previously released Jolt wasn't a good one... Just thought it was sort of a unique case that should be addressed, what with there being two movie Jolts, and unlike the 2007 one which didn't appear in any movies and has since been changed to a different character, also not appearing in the movies, the new Jolt is in the movie. I know that's what disambiguation is for, but I just thought it was an interesting bit of trivia that a movie character's name was already used in the movieverse, though for a different character. (not including the whole movie Arcee thing) -Cliffjumper Prime

==Megatron joke==
The monsters in MMPR always started out human-sized. Then, at some point, Rita throws her staff down from the Moon shouting "Make my monster grow!". The staff lands in the ground and energy shoots out of it, making the monster enormous. The laser effects around Megatron's cannon in that picture look a lot like the staff. Here is a YouTube clip of it: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUelB-OSneY]. Honestly, it's not a big deal to me, but the old joke doesn't really make any sense in the first place. It seems to be a premature ejaculation joke to go along with his cannon firing, but it's not like there's anybody else in the picture for the innuendo to be complete. I think the observation our anonymous editor made about the resemblance to the staff is actually pretty clever. A rare instance of somebody changing a joke for the better, IMO. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:Huzzah! I have a talk page now! Anyway, thanks for clearing it up... I didn't get the ressemblance of Bandora's staff to the laser blast effects of Megatron's cannons... At least I understood the previous joke, wasn't all that funny but it made sense without the explanation. -[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

== Revert Revert ==

Slaggit! This is like, the fourth time this has happened to me. I SPECIFICALLY checked with a preview when I was about to make the reversion, and it did NOT tell me any edits had been made since I'd started mine. Apologies for the confusion and annoyance, but I am definitely not doing this on purpose...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 23:39, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:No worries. I know it wasn't your fault. I'm pretty sure this happened to me at least once as well. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:11, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks. That actually makes me feel a lot better about it.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

==Treatment==
Hey, it's not uploaded anywhere anymore (but Don Murphy has no issues with us handing it around). I can send you the PDF, but I need your email. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

==Nunchakus==
His name is "Michelangelo". :) --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 14:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:My bad. Haven't watched TMNT since the original toon. And I was never into Renaissance art or whatever era the artist namesake was from. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Airazor caption ==

Hi. I was wondering what was wrong with the old caption for the Airazor photo.
:Essentially, there's nothing wrong with the toy so criticizing it like that is pointless. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::Okay. I didn't think the caption was meant as a criticism of the toy. I thought it was meant to point out that though she was designed as a female figure, she didn't really turn out looking any more female than any other Transformer (excluding Arcee and Thunderblast). But humor is subjective, and what I find somewhat funny might not seem funny at all to someone else.
:::Airazor was designed as a male figure. The toy/character only became female on the insistence of the show writers. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::::We're talking about the caption for the Transmetal figure. I thought that one was designed from the start to be female.
:::::... oh! Did not realize. Sorry. Ignore me. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

== Blurr ==

He is known to be a member, which should be enough, but he is also known to appear again later in the season, both through the footage from Dubai and the teasers released on the blog. That's why I said that I believed that it ws exception enough if he wasn't a member, it wouldn't need to be moved, but both together seem to be compelling enough.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:Look at your talk page, anything Dubai-related ''should not'' be discussed here in any capacity. We are not gloryhounds like Seibertron trying to be the first ones to announce every single giant spoiler of every single piece of media. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::That's great, but that's not what I am trying to say. He was announced as a character a while ago, before Dubai, and on one of the creator blogs. He's known to be in the Elite Guard, and we even know who his American voice actor is. We've even had him make his first appearance. Dubai just confirmed an episode he reappears in. That's all I'm trying to say - that we know he's in the guard, and we have confirmation from various sources of a future appearance. Hell, that we've listed his voice actor should be confirmation enough.
::And I didn't make the edit to spread spoilers - I did it to add info to a wiki, when the info is confirmed. Yes, we should not be obsessed with news, but neither should we put blinders on and wait until info is months or years old. (Hyperbole, but you get my point)[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

== Rabbicrater Edits ==

Just FYI, the edits HooperX made were capitalizing on the fact that Rabbicrater looks like his name contains the word "rabbi", when in fact it's meant to be most of the word "rabbit". The caption gag of "L'chaim" thus becomes more obvious, though I like the current one better. As for the miscellaneous trivia, I think it's an attempt at a callback to one of the final scenes from the Mel Brooks film ''History of the World, Part 1''. So not TOTAL nonsense.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 14:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:Oh, well I don't know much about Judaism so "L'chaim" is kind of flying over my head right now (and I believe even if explained, the Yaoi Kiss Players joke will still be funnier)... And the misc trivia, well History Of The World Part 1 is one of the Mel Brooks films I have not yet had the pleasure of watching... Even then, it's kind of out of place in the same paragraph as the info about the rabbit on the moon... if Hooper wants to bring it back I would suggest he add another asterisk paragraph to point it out... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::Long story short, a robot with the word "Rabbi" in his name, even if it actually has to do with "rabbit" is ripe for Judaism gags. "L'Chaim!" is a traditional exclamation of celebration. Originally, I was just gonna put the lyrics to Hava Nagila up there, but hey. The Kiss Players thing I had to stop and stare at - the two dudes humping are kind of cut out of the frame. But hey, whatever. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 15:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::FWIW, "L'chaim" is a traditional Hebrew version of "Cheers!" and literally means "To life!" I'm up for ethnic humor as much as the <s>next</s> previous guy, but I still find the KP gag funnier in this case. The thought of "Hava Negila" lyrics as a caption does make me grin, though...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Real Gear hairdryer ==

Good you took that out for now, I was just too exited to post a unreleased toy for the Movie line, so I did not stop to check if it was real or not. I'm currently looking for more info on it and will put that back up once I found proof.
By the way, what do the read minus numbers next to your edit mean?[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 12:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
-Edit, I fell for a joke! it was just a joke to take the piss of the US toy gun law.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 19:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:Number of characters (letters and spaces) added or removed from the total article length by this edit. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:45, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::....what? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:24, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

== Hi ==

I'm listening and I'm sorry [[User:Gyro-Robo|Gyro-Robo]] 22:43, 8 June 2008

== Mayhem Suppression Squad‎ ==

Hello ^^ I removed the [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]] from the [[Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] members because [[:Category:Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] is already under [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]]. Just like [[Killbison]] only under [[:Category:Breastforce]] which is contained by Combiners, Decepticons, and Victory characters. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 00:49, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

== 1989 Character Models ==
Howdy! I saw the Bumblebee & Jazz pretender models. Do you happen to have higher resolution versions of these images that you'd be willing to share with me? Do you have any more images from this era? (The Ark III needs your help!) --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:04, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

== Drift ==

Fine, have it your way! This site could be something awesome for everybody, yet guys like you persist in making it a refuge for your snide insults and negativity. --[[User:Hutch|Hutch]] 03:47, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:If it helps... even some of us here think Detour takes the AHM-bashing to ridiculous extremes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:23, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::Except a lot of what he yanked out was stuff not even written by me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:25, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Some of us are OK with desnarking the overly-snarked articles. Thankfully Rosicrucian just redid the removal. :P --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:29, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::::No, he yanked different parts, and rewrote another. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:33, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
Man, just let it go. We're trying to make the trivia sections ''smaller'', y'know.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:00, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

No! Much, much bigger! I'm good with keeping the Poochie theme for SL: Drift's page, but we really, really gotta get a reference to Rurouni Kenshin on a Drift image somewhere down the line! I can't imagine McCarthy not having Kenshin in some corner of his mind when he was creating Drift. "Oh man, he'll be an ex-assassin, with a dark past he regrets, and he carries a special sword! AWESOME!" --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 16:20, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

==Vandalism?==
Thanks for fixing my page, I appreciate it. Apparently Mr. Anon didn't take too kindly from me having to up and leave his little "discussion". People gotta go do other things besides argue with somebody on the other side of the computer all day. So do you know how severe punishment is for vandalizing someone's User Page?---[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:15, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:In this case, I'm inclined to believe it was a simple accident. The guy isn't really all that wiki savvy, and may have just clicked on your sig and thought it was your talkpage. He's... well, I don't hold any illusions he's going to be a productive user here, but he's on a dynamic IP and isn't outright harmful so I'm not sure what a block would accomplish.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:17, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::True, I didn't take that into account. I tend to jump to the vandalism claim (or any claim honestly) a little too gung-ho sometimes, and this is one of those times.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:27, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:::S'okay. I mean, I'd be lying if I said my cursor didn't hover over the block button on him while I thought about it. Trouble is his two IPs so far don't even seem to share a common subnet, so even an IP range ban wouldn't be viable. If he becomes genuinely abusive lemme know and I'd be happy to play whack-a-mole with his IPs.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:31, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

Sorry, I'm new here. Won't happen again, trust me.--[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 20:59, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

*Z-z-zay, is it no vandalism to undo the another's additionz-z-z-z without any explanation? What's wrong with z-z-z-z-them?--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 01:11, 1 December 2009 (EST)
:They didn't make any sense. You should stick to adding to the synopsis/etc. because your English seems to slip right down to nonsensical when you do captions. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:47, 1 December 2009 (EST)

==Barricade ROTF DS game==
Why instand of deleting it why dont you fix all my misspelling i have the game and all barricade parts are true.--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:So... the burden is on ''us'' to fix what you write?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:Because neither I nor anyone else on the wiki is your personal spellchecker. If you want your edits to stick, put some effort into it and that includes using proper English. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

== Ze little one ==

"The identity of ze little one is a bit on the fraught side. In the flyover shot of the barge on which the four Constructicons sit, a red bulldozer (Rampage), a concrete mixer (Mixmaster), a dump truck (Long Haul) and a yellow front-end loader are visible. The yellow front-end loader is the alternate mode of the Constructicon Scrapper, and ze little one's robot mode appears to be the same as Scrapper's. As such, the temptation to just consider this a Scrapper unit is great... except that, after the flyover shot, the yellow loader disappears, and is replaced with a yellow Volvo excavator, clearly marked with a large Decepticon insignia. For the purposes of reducing headaches, we're assuming that the excavator is the "correct" vehicle mode, and that it just happens to transform into a robot mode that resembles Scrapper...even though it's not him. "

I wasn't aware of the decision that had reached on the "Ze little one" page, so I didn't realize that this was the reasoning being used. I can agree with this, and I'm sorry the discussion got so hostile. Have a great week.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:30, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

== SG Ark & SG Nemesis ==

I'd just have Derik's bot fix those links along with the rest. I only fixed the others because there was about 2-3 links each instead of the 60+ for those two pages. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:32, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

==Thanks for giving me my username==

Seriously best alias ever [[User:Potty Mouth Anon|Potty Mouth Anon]] 01:55, 21 August 2009 (EDT)

== TFA: S.P.'s amnesia ==

You completely sure about that? Seemed like a kind of joke to me - Wasp going through this whole list of humiliation and Sentinel denying it while keeping a straight face.
EDIT: sorry for double posting, my browser's acting a little strange [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:26, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
:Except Sentinel finishes the scene by saying "Wait a minute, that was you?" He genuinely doesn't remember, only recalling it then and there. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:27, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
::Oookay, my bad. Seems like his ego is powerful enough to erase memories of minor, non-significant beings like Wasp, Bee or Bulky... [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:45, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

==Deaths of Optimus Prime "fanon"==
That... wasn't fanon. It was more awkwardly phrased, but consistent with how it was portrayed in the episode. Aerialbots even say, to my recollection, that there are "others at the hanger." Elita-1 was rebuilt. Dion wasn't mentioned. What part of that is fanon, and why did that give you the right to allcaps that dude into submission for it? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:17, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well it explicitly said in the anon guy's contribution way back there that "Ariel and Dion were also rebuilt" (followed by an awkward parenthesis saying Ariel at least). Plus, the episode itself is awkwardly phrased... Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel" as though he actually meant to say "there's another one back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel". After Orion is rebuilt as Prime, there's no concern for any "others" and they only speak of Ariel, whom Alpha Trion says he'll "send droids out for". No mention at all that he'd rebuild other casualties of the hangar massacre. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:32, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Another interpretation: Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, [for example] his girlfriend Ariel." Otherwise, he's not being correct when he says there are "otherS" there. Plural. I'm not saying that Alpha Trion rebuilt anybody other than Prime and Elita, or that we have any evidence thereof. I'm saying what the guy wrote, in that particular revision, was technically correct. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:50, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:::The ''best'' kind of correct. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:06, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

== the Peter Cullen photo. ==

I know the person who is in that picture. I thought it would be fun depicting him being the nice guy that he is. If you want me to identify where I got the image from, I can link you right to the source. [[User:Unicron|Unicron]] 02:59, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

== editing ==

sorry about the starscream page, but did you really have to edit out '''''everything''''' I did? [[User:Masterman555|Masterman555]] 22:54, 21 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well, yeah. You screwed up the formatting and the order of figures in the toy section, messed with captions and changed all the thumbnails to ungodly huge sizes. It's pretty standard procedure to undo that. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:14, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

== Robot Heroes Thrust eyes==
Thank you for correcting that, I just took an even closer look to the toy and realized I had made a mistake.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 22:39, 12 November 2009 (EST)

== IDW ==

Oh come on, dude. We can take the piss out of IDW sometimes, but that last edit was a bit much.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:43, 12 November 2009 (EST)
:Not even my words there. But like a lot have said... Continuum is pretty much the straw that broke the camel's back. And really, their own page needs a dose of piss-taking-out too, no matter how slight. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:46, 12 November 2009 (EST)
What Rosi said. No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:52, 12 November 2009 (EST)

==British English spellings==
Please read [[Help:Style_guide#National_varieties_of_English]], it mentions guidelines to spelling that may help you. As Club material is published by a company based in Texas, I went with the American English. Keep British English spelling in the UK articles. [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 10:06, 21 November 2009 (EST)

==Captions==
Detour, He-l-en has been contributing to the Armada episode articles in a generally positive manner. Please stop reverting her caption changes. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 05:27, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:Positive, yes, but thus far little more than minor summary changes in Armada... followed by large doses of captioning. I'll lay off since you asked me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:01, 29 November 2009 (EST) (I can still change his captions to different ones if I come up with better ones, though, right?)
::I am trying to handle the situation in a delicate manner; He-l-en is both a new user and someone whose first language is not English, so we cannot immediately expect her to know every facet of our policy right away. Reverting a person's edits without telling them why is not a good way to grow new users. I'm just trying to be courteous. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:15, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::Well, it's not like we don't always revert people who aren't doing anything but changing captions. He-l-en is at least also contributing a little bit of info, but we still generally tell people to leave the captions alone when they're new and just worry about adding actual info to the articles. (And it's not like we don't have plenty of Help guides available to read, either...) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 06:20, 29 November 2009 (EST)
::::''We'' know we change people's captions back, yes, but I am inclined to be more lenient to someone who has only been around for two days... hrm. Actually, I am inspired. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:57, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::::His English seems to have landslided down to "nonsensical" once he started editing captions... Can I revert those, at least? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:59, 29 November 2009 (EST)

== Sideways Part-swapping pics ==

Detour-
I do have pics of the part-swapped Sideways, however I am not sure how to upload them to the Wiki and add them to the page. If you'd like, I can e-mail them to you if you PM Ultrawave over at TFW2005 (that is my account). Unless there is another way to upload them that I am not aware of? [[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 04:20, 7 December 2009 (EST)

Made a Photobucket and uploaded my pic to satisfy your curiousity-- [http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af279/Blitzgear/DSCN0897.jpg] =)[[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 18:44, 7 December 2009 (EST)

== Sari Edit ==
why did you edit my addition to the page? what i typed was factual. --[[User:0utrun|0utrun]] 23:16, 30 December 2009 (EST)

== Blackarachnia "hit it with a shovel" joke ==

Why do you deem it so important to take the joke out? It works, it fills an empty caption space, so why? Seriously, Why? --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:09, 6 January 2010 (EST)

== Lockdown's position as a bounty hunter. ==

This isn't something like revealing the gimmicks to a toy or an electronic voice, or even a street date. It's no secret that the ROTF figure is based off a "bounty hunter", you've seen the card say he's a "bounty hunter" regardless if it isn't officially released, is the addition of a category "Bounty Hunter" seriously enough to get you this unnecessarily riled up? It's not like I'm saying something like he's an Autobot sympathizer or something. --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:20, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==Captions==
No one appointed '''you''' the master of captioning. You're acting like a goddamn jackboot, so take a time-out. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 02:59, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==My Grammar==
Well i going to tell you why i have bad grammar, i have good grammar BUT i type so freaking Fast in result i make typos, Aslo there some words that i cant spell, aslo i try to slow down but then i start to write fast again -Eagc7
: Then either slow down enough so you can write competently, or don't write at all so we don't spend so much time cleaning up your amazingly-sized mess. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38, 29 January 2010 (EST)

== Why did you remove my edit? ==

The article discusses fanfiction, so I named two common pairings as an example. It seemed relevant. [[User:CH|CH]] 16:25, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Because the fandom is so large, fragmented and clique-esque that there's really no way to measure what's relevant/common unless it's completely widespread, as in to the point that even average fans that don't read fanfic are familiar with the concepts used. Megatron/Starscream pairings probably predate Beast Wars itself, Starscream/Alexis was a freakin' epidemic for a time. Those are somewhat "worthy" of mention (in a squicky infamous way). Prime/Mikaela and Bumblebee/Sam, however? Although I'm not shocked they exist, I don't believe the average fans would know for certain that they do. And it isn't really quite as notable (again, Starscream/Alexis being an epidemic), no more than hypothetical pairings like Cheetor/Una or Sky-Byte/Koji.. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:37, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::''Friend of Autobots''
::''Sometimes he talks to me too''
::''My spark fills with joy'' --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:18, 8 February 2010 (EST)

== Right..... ==

[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Beast_Machines_(cartoon)&curid=15&diff=430695&oldid=430694 What was that weird edit summary all about?] --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:56, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Look at your keyboard, and look at each letter to the left of the letter I typed. :p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:12, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::It seems we use very different keyboards. All I'm getting is gibberish. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 09:32, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::It says "something's wrong with my eyes," okay? Big hairy deal. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== Double dash template ==
Works just 100% fine on Opera and in Firefox and in IE7, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. The whole purpose it was created was to clear things without creating gaps above the headers. So stop changing it every time I fix the formatting, as you're driving me insane and I'm going to start reverting you every time you do it. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:48, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Well it doesn't work on me in neither IE nor Firefox. So clearly the coding for it must be flawed somehow. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:22, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::IIRC, you're one of the folks using IE6, aren't you? That would explain that part, if so. As for Firefox, it works fine on Firefox for me, so I just don't know what you're talking about there. (I also checked IE7 and it works fine there as well...)
::But in any case, bring it up with Derik to fix any problems rather than constantly removing it, considering the whole reason the template exists to begin with is to solve an issue folks used to be griping about. About the only issue I've ever had is that there has to be no line return space between the dash template and the following header, but that's easily tweaked while editing. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah, I'm one of the five people on Earth still using IE6. I like the button layout better, sue me. But I do have Firefox 3.5.6 and <nowiki>{{--}}</nowiki> does the same amount of jack squattage. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:04, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::::You do realize button layouts are easily changed in most browsers, yes? (And I'd think lots of broken sites with missing features would be a bigger annoyance... having to surf using IE6 at one of my jobs last year was downright painful, it's missing so many useful standards.)
::::But, like I said, never had issues with FF at all. And even if there are, again, have Derik tweak the CSS, rather than unfixing the formatting fixes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:13, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== *sigh* "first edit ever" ==

fact is I've been editing over the years and adding useful tid bits here and there, but the wiki just can't seem to hold a proper account. so I start a new and get treated like a punk. gratitude for ya.

And yeah, the tone really isn't to my liking. Derek J Wyatt puts down Beachcomber and everyone treats it as canon that the character is not well liked. well I like him! And think the article should be more even handed.

So tell me, how am I supposed to get started here? I can't edit "the funny" as I've been told the last time I tried a permanent account, I can't help to rewrite an article, what do you want from me? When to I earn the right to call out the Beach Comber page for being offensive? --[[User:Stly92|Stly92]] 01:15, March 18, 2010 (EST)

== Jim-Bob's Diner is indeed a reference to James Roberts ==

[[Maximum Dinobots issue 2|Jim-Bob's Diner]] is, in fact, a reference to ''Last Stand of the Wreckers'' co-writer [[James Roberts]]. Nick Roche said it himself [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=161572#161572]. (At first, '''I''' thought--and was '''very sure'''--it was a reference to '''Jim''' Salicrup and '''Bob''' Budiansky.) --[[User:Jeff39042|Jeff39042]] 19:40, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
:Well then that belongs in the Notes... not a confusing random link in the middle of the synopsis. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:06, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

== Last Dutch Issue ==

The IP Anon [[Special:Contributions/195.240.16.74|195.240.16.74]] removed the "last Dutch issue" sentence from "[[The Void! (US)|The Void!]]" because he was shifting it to "[[On the Edge of Extinction!]]" Now, this may require verification (which is why I'm not undoing your reversal yet), but at least it's not a random act of Anon vandalism.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 11:24, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:Yeah, I reverted it before he did the rest. I don't know who to ask for verification, though. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:50, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::Looks like the anon was actually [[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] not logged in. Good enough to allow now, or do we still need a citation? Sunjumper mentions on his anon-IP talk page (linked in just above, there) where he saw mention of the last-issue status.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 13:13, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
:::If he's Dutch, sure. You're in the better position to make that call anyway. :p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:41, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Based on his recent contribution to the BW article, I'd say he his. Well and good, then.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 17:18, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

== Anon-made G1 Cast List ==

I'll grant I didn't do more than a rough glance over it, so I can't vouch for its accuracy, but it WAS in keeping with our formatting for other TV series' front pages. Granted, the cast's much larger and so may be too overwhelming a list for the page, but in principle, it wasn't a ''wrong'' idea. Might be worth adding a notice as to why the G1 TV series page would differ in that respect from other series'.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:29, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

== Toy Swapping ==

Look, I am sorry to keep adding tat. I just thought it was important to have in the article, because it was under the same idea. And just so you know, this whole website is full of crappy, big, poorly written sections and just want to help improve some facts not added. So you can take that comment and stick it were it belongs. I just tried to add something.

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== Toy Swapping 2 ==

I am sorry for the previous comment made by myself about the edit. I was in a really bad mood and would not tolerate anything. I will stop trying to edit or fix any articles to fix things that people deleted that I made. I do sincerly apologize. People have been quite rude to me on this website and I was starting to get stressed. Not to mention I have major anger manigment issues. I am quite sorry for my comments.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 12:37, 4 June 2010 (EDT)

== Hey. ==

Yo, be quiet bitch. {{unsigned|TheRex4441}}
:Keep it polite, please. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:39, 24 June 2010 (EDT)

== Prime VAs ==

The editor was right about Optimus & Megatron's VAs, he just didn't have the right source. (It was revealed in a recent BotCon panel.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:12, 26 June 2010 (EDT)

==edit war==
If this edit war does not stop in five minutes and people don't stop getting aggressive at each other, all three of you are getting a time-out. The note is pretty pointless, at best it would be only on Prime Soundwave's page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:28, 4 July 2010 (EDT)

==Translation help==
Hey, Detour. Since you speak French, could you help me by correcting any bad translations I have for the French ''Animated'' episode titles [[User:Interrobang/Crap|here]]? Thanks! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:24, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
:Done. Egads, epic fail on the dub team on translating Five Servos Of Doom. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:06, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
::Thanks! That was one of the titles that threw me off. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:21, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

== Cloaca joke? ==

Was there something wrong with [[Airazor (BW)|it]]? [[Special:Contributions/72.229.51.77|72.229.51.77]] 15:22, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

== Anon reverts==
When a dude changes something, and you change it back, and he changes it back with comment asking why it's changed... it might be better, if you're going to simply revert it again, to at least leave a comment of your own, explaining why? If he's explaining his actions, you owe that same courtesy back, even if he's in the wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:25, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
:You're absolutely right, and I can't for the life of me remember WHY I didn't do just that. It's been hectic in my neck of the woods these past few days, I apologize. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:02, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
::Come to think of it, I think the reason might've been that I meant to leave the explanation on his talk page, but ended up being sidetracked by other things. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:03, 28 July 2010 (EDT)

== Nice caption ==

<nowiki>:</nowiki>D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:40, 15 August 2010 (EDT)
:Hah, I was just waiting for someone to add a pic of him so I could throw add that caption. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:41, 15 August 2010 (EDT)

== Decepticon Drone ==

I am sorry. I thought it looked simmilar, due to the Red T visor, silver and black head, but not the body.

== [[Katsuyuki Konishi]] and [[Frank Miller]] ==

My joke(s) may be weak, but
#I wasn't violating any [[Transformers Wiki:Caption|caption policies]].
#I uploaded the [[Frank Miller]] image. I deserve a caption or something.
#[[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal#Links that overexplain jokes|Explaining the joke is not funny]].
#(Regarding the link I put at the Konishi caption):
:* A straight quote from Gurren Lagann isn't really very funny by itself.
:* Frank Miller isn't someone you'd think to find on TFWiki. I'd like to show people that he does belong here and how nteresting a coincidence it is, that ''both'' sources of the line contributed to TF. I imagine people reading the link would be like: "Oh yeah, there's also that. Wait, this wiki has an article on F. Miller? What has he got to do with TF? Gonna check that."
But really, I'm more upset about your changing of the caption at Frank Miller for reason number 2. [[User:Item42|Item42]] 10:38, 29 September 2010 (EDT)

== Why are you reverting everything? ==

Why the fuck are you reverting every single edit you see? Is that the only thing you can do? Is is your sole mission to not contribute, but revert everyone else who tries to? Sure, you could just change the singe byte of offending material, BUT NO, YOU HAVE TO REVERT THE WHOLE GODDAMN EDIT. You've been doing this for as long as I've been observing. Also, you've been up my ass about everything the whole time I've been here. Haven't you been blocked before for this kind of thing? --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:01, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
:Detour spends a lot of time on the wiki so he often sees poor/vandalistic edits before other editor do. Usually his reversions have been supported by the majority of editors, when he goes over the line Walky puts him in his place. My question is, why are you so sensitive? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:37, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
::If you've been up my ass too, you would see that this is the first time I've exploded over seomthing like this. I have been putting up with shit like this since I started editing here. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
:::I don't know, just looking over your previous edits you seemed rather upset about things on the [[Twitcher F451]], [[Derrick J. Wyatt]], [[Starscream (BWII)]] and [[Shelfwarmer]] pages. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:52, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
* WHY ARE YOU REVERTING EVERUTHING???????????????--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 10:15, 7 November 2010 (EST)

== Dalek ==

For your information, there is incorrect information on that page, that must be changed. The Daleks were never first called "Mark 3 travel machines" that is wrong. The were first called Daleks. The machine the ride in was first a Mark 1 Travel Machines, then a Mark 2 Travel Machine, and finally a Mark 3 Travel Machine. It was Davros who called the machine they ride in Mark 3 Travel Machine, but the creatures are called Daleks, and they were first called Kaleds before being mutated into Daleks. I don't know were the hell you got that from but they are also not cyborgs. They are creatures inside tanks basically. I was correcting that. Get your facts right before delete something I did. Trust me, I know more about the Daleks then you. Thus, my user name is LORD DALEK. That is why I am constantly changing that page. [[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 15:40, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:Except all that is irrelevant to what was said about Daleks within ''Transformers fiction'', which is what this Wiki is about. And I know plenty about Daleks. Don't assume you're some sort of lone Doctor Who fan on this wiki.--[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:42, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Fine, I will stop editing the part that is in the comic, BUT THE INFORMATION IN THE NOTES IS WRONG!!! And I also did not say anything about being "a lone Doctor Who fan" I just was saying you undid my edit that was correcting incorrect statements. [[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 15:52, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
: That thing Detour linked to when he reverted you sure seems to think you're wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::I found two sources that go against what LordDalek is claiming. One is a general science fiction Wiki and the other is the TARDIS Index File, the Doctor Who Wiki (which we link Doctor Who-related articles to). --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:58, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::ARGG! I have proof that what you said was wrong. Look, you right, they weren't called Daleks, nor they were Mark 3 Travel Machines. They were called merely mutants. Read this:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davros|His solution is to remove all emotions pertaining to weakness, a category in which he groups such emotions as compassion, mercy and kindness, and place the mutants in tank-like "Mark III travel machines" partly based on the design of his wheelchair. He later names these creatures Daleks, an anagram of Kaleds.][[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:07, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::: Yyyyeah. You seem to be quoting the fictional history at us, while we're talking about the actual behind-the-scenes history of the characters. The comment you removed will stay. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:11, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Actually, from a behind-the-scenes standpoint the name Dalek came first. But Who fiction-wise, it was established in a later serial (Genesis of the Daleks, the Daleks's origin story) that the original name of a Dalek was a Mark III Travel Machine. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_of_the_Daleks "At that moment, Davros enters the laboratory, and demonstrates his new "Mark III travel machine", which he later dubs as a "Dalek"."]. If you want the note to focus less on fiction and more on production, I can always tweak it. But it's still a factual note one way or another. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:25, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
Better yet, read this: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalek_variants|For the most part a Dalek is simply a Dalek.Notable exceptions usually refer to rank, such as "Emperor" and "Supreme Dalek", although in Genesis of the Daleks Davros refers to the newly created Dalek casing as a "Mark 3 Travel Machine".] For the last bloody time, Mark 3 Travel Machines refers to the CASING not the actual creature.
[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:14, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Listen ItsWalky, when the Daleks first appeared in 1963 THEY WERE CALLED DALEKS. Davros is part of the fictional history, and the real creator of the Daleks was Terry Nation, and he called them Daleks. There. I now have fictional and behind the scenes evidence. The comment must be removed.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:29, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::Why would you ''ever'' want to err on the side of ''removing'' information rather than clarifying it? When is less information better?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:15, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

== This place is worse than Nazi Germany ==

SIEG HEIL, DON'T FUCK WITH THE LITTLE TRANSFORMER WIKIPEDIA. WE ONLY LIKE SOME POINTLESS ADDITIONS, NOT A LOT.

Fucking hypocrites. You included, Spanish twit.--[[User:Tommy-Vercetti|Tommy-Vercetti]] 18:13, 8 November 2010 (EST)
:Please mind your language. And this kind of tantrum-throwing won't exactly have people joining your side in the argument. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:18, 8 November 2010 (EST)

== Fanmodes ==

I got the impression, per the "Fan-configurations of toys" discussion in the community portal, that we ''don't'' avoid fan modes, that brief mention of such is okay. [[User:JW|JW]] 11:58, 19 November 2010 (EST)

== Koiter brothers ==

Thanks for catching that spelling error I missed on their names! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:36, 21 November 2010 (EST)

== Grimstone ==

Grimstone's drones' Mini-Con compatibilities are '''not''' mentionned on their own page.

== Ahem ==

Why did you revert my talk page edit regarding the doctor who connection on Talk:Death's Head?
NVM I see, I screwed it up.

== Emperor of Terror Scorponok ==

What's wrong with his edits? He seems to be adding several paragraphs of information, which you delete entirely. I see one or two typos here or there, but wouldn't it be easier to fix those than just remove his large amounts of work whole-hog? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:03, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:Believe me, I've been mulling over that myself, but ultimately, it's more than just typos. A lot of his sentences just don't read right and would ultimately require full rewrites. Figured someone else starting again from scratch would be better than a Cleanup tag... But if I'm wrong in this, sorry. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:23, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:: The English doesn't really read that badly. It's simple, but better than the nothing we have now. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:29, 16 December 2010 (EST)

==New mexico vs. New Mexico==
Thanks, I totally realised the mistake soon after I made the page.
[[User:MadmanFoidart|MadmanFoidart]] 14:46, 10 January 2011 (EST)

== Reverting edits ==

May I ask why you insist on reverting my edits? Especially the one just now about TransTech Megatron's concept design matching almost-perfectly to ROTF Megatron's design, which I see far more-notable than the "Oh look, it's an H-Tank, it atuomatically links to Armada Megatron" trivia listed before it, which you have left alone.

For this particular case, it is not merely my opinion that the two resemble each other more, as a quick glance at the image displayed in the trivia section, let alone what that trivia links to off-wiki, shows a closer resemblance to ROTF than Armada, by far.
[[Special:Contributions/24.143.42.51|24.143.42.51]] 02:41, 27 January 2011 (EST)
:You're right, looks like I jumped the gun at that one. My apologies. Still, it could stand a rewriting to be a little less... dogpiley. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:35, 27 January 2011 (EST)

== Mindset ==

You said: ''It says the toy is a retool of Hailstorm, and Hailstorm was designed as the homage.''
If the Hailstorm/Mindset mold was designed as an homage to the original Mindset, then I don't see how the new Mindset could ''not'' be an homage to the original. Particularly since, given the way Hasbro is planning retools these days, the Hailstorm mold was ''always'' intended to be retooled into a Mindset. What is the distinction you're making? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:13, 7 February 2011 (EST)
:No ressemblance to the original character, for starters. If he was "clearly" intended as an homage, the head would surely have carried over the original character's visor at the very least, yes? And the colors, too. G2 Mindset was white, green and grey, this Autobot Mindset is blue and black. And lastly, the faction allegiance. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:22, 7 February 2011 (EST)
This is how I suspect it went down:
#Hailstorm toy was designed.
#[[Kyde]] was all, hey, dudes, that's totally Mindset.
#Hasbro decided to name its redeco "Mindset."
Somewhere in between 2 and 3, Toy Fair probably happened, when Aaron was all about how this toy was totally Mindset.
--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:20, 7 February 2011 (EST)
:Hmm, okay. Point granted. [[User:JW|JW]] 07:22, 8 February 2011 (EST)

== Motormaster ==

I think the one that said Motormaster's size change is right, because Motormaster is the same size as Optimus, while Optimus has the same size as Motormaster in car mode, both of them with their trailers, i think there's size change in there.

--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 19:24, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
:Yeah, and there's a [[Powertrain|freighter truck]] that transforms into a robot that goes up to Prime's shin. Scale doesn't mean much in Transformers, you have Porsche Jazz towering over Porsche Cliffjumper and Jeep Hound towering over Jeep Brawn and F-15s turning into robots the same size as Lamborghinis. It's a dumb thing to note. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:39, 14 March 2011 (EDT)

== Windcharger ==

"This was removed before because it's false. Don't add it back" How is it false?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 23:09, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

==Bumblebee==
BOTH of you knock it the fuck off or you're both getting put in a corner for a while. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:45, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

== DOTM Bumblebee ==

Just to clear things up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpqamRtmGRE&feature=feedu the maker of the video says:
because this figure is smaller than any other version of bumblebee, they technically are all brand new parts. They couldn't reuse any other Bumblebee parts cause they no longer would fit.--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 15:33, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

==If you don't like Robert Stack==

You should say so when you're taking funny things he said from the Ultra Magnus page. It's not as if the image even had a caption before, could you not have left it? I ask because since you didn't give a reason, it ''looks'' like you revert all IP edits you see on principle, without checking what was actually changed. Busy schedule? [[Special:Contributions/92.13.226.232|92.13.226.232]] 19:48, 5 April 2011 (EDT)
:Detour doesn't always check properly what an anon added, but he does check. On captions, the rules are very clear though: If you have not contributed to the wiki in a meaningful way, you are NOT allowed to add or change captions UNLESS you have asked permission first on the article's talk page. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:00, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

== Inferno (BW) ==

May I just ask why did you undo the caption edit?
: Because you replaced an existing caption with a YouTube link. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:: Are YouTubes links forbidden? I do believe I saw them in captions on this Wiki before. --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]]
::: Well, first there's the problem of ''replacing an existing caption.'' It's frowned upon. Second, a little '''[1]''' under an image isn't a caption. It's just a link. It's not pretty or witty, it's just an unmarked link. Captions should be captions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:::: Well, yes, I suspected (now I know for sure) that much (the "frown upon" part), and that's (partially, anyway) the reason I've never edited a caption before. But no, wait, I was pretty sure that when I checked the article after the edit there was blue text "nope.avi" in the caption that was a link to a video, not just "[1]". Or am I missing something? --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]] 14:59, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Also, to further clarify things, I'll give this link: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nopeavi You can even find the screenshot the caption of which I changed in the related pictures there. I hope that article will be clear enough explanation of my motive to change the aforementioned caption. --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]] 02:29, 13 April 2011 (EDT)

== Regarding the edits Eagc7 made ==

Apparently you haven't read the [[Megatron (Movie)]] article in awhile, because Eagc7 was just trying to help out. [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Megatron_%28Movie%29&diff=484337&oldid=481886 Xaaron made this edit] almost a year ago, most likely because nobody bothered to fill out that section since 2007. Nobody objected. Eagc7 evidently noticed this and was trying to make the other articles consistent. I think you should have questioned his motives before insta-reverting them. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:37, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

== Mech-Tech page ==

The only reason it was "Just a list copied from the DOTM page" is because he HADN'T FINISHED THE PAGE YET --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:08, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
:It shouldn't be a list, it should be a description of the gimmick, like our [[Automorph Technology]] and [[Mech Alive]] pages, that's why it's tagged, it's even explained in the tag. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:14, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

== Fusion Cannon ==

You have undone my edit of Movie Megatron's fusion cannon twice now and I am wondering why? In the 2007 movie at 1:57:13 you can clearly see Megatron shoot Jazz with his fusion cannon from his RIGHT arm. I just watched it, so I know I am correct. If you have a good reason for undoing my edits, let me know, but until then I am just going to keep changing it back. --[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 02:43, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
:You didn't watch well enough. That's '''Jazz''' shooting Megatron, not the other way around. By contrast, Megatron's fusion cannon is clearly in his left arm, as you see Prime shoot him off balance before he fires, but he turns around, cannon clearly on his left arm, re-aims and shoots. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:05, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Sorry but you didn't watch well enough. '''Jazz''' does fire first, then '''Megatron''' fires and Jazz goes flying. I haven't watched the battle with Optimus recently, so it may be that Megatron also has a fusion cannon in his left arm as well and can combine both to make them more powerful. --[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 10:00, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Maybe it's a different weapons system, but do you have any evidence to back that up? I'm assuming you have finally accepted that Megatron does shoot Jazz with his right arm and you watched the entire scene. The blast was blue like the blast from the combined fusion cannon and his fusion cannon from ROTF ,and it was very powerful, as it sent Jazz flying much in the same way as it did to Optimus in ROTF. Also, he lost his left arm at the end of the first movie, and if it were solely stored in his left arm, it would not have been present in ROTF. It's probably pretty safe to assume that "the Little One," who provided Megatron with parts did not possess a fusion cannon and the "Doctor" did not build a completely new one. IF you can come up with a better arguement than that or provide some official source material, I'll leave it alone, but if you keep using an ambiguous arguement I'll just keep editing the article.
:Do you have any evidence that it '''is''' his fusion cannon? A single blast from said cannon sent Optimus Prime, OPTIMUS PRIME, flying over a full city block into a building, while Jazz barely flew a few feet. But hey, for added evidence, [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h56m39s185.png this] does not look like either [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h57m49s50.png this] or [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h58m11s5.png this]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:01, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
No I don't have any evidence that it is a fusion cannon, but I think there is a better argument for it being a fusion cannon than not, as I stated above. And yes Jazz did only fly a few feet, but maybe that's because the fusion cannon was not at full power because it was not combined with Megatron's left arm. As for the pictures, they don't look anything like the crab claw fusion cannon, yet that is still a fusion cannon. I'm not trying to jerk you around; this is just how I see it and a lot of this is just opinion because Hasbro or whoever hasn't officially detailed anything. Maybe we could ask someone else who edits this Wiki for their opinion on it and just go with that?
:That doesn't work, because as my screenshots show, the fusion cannon is ''entirely part of Megatron's left arm''. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:23, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
How does that explain how his fusion cannon moved from his left arm to his right arm? I don't see the problem with what I wrote, because it leaves the statement you wrote about the fusion cannon being stored in the left arm and it touches on the blast that was fired at Jazz with his right arm. It says nowhere that it '''is''' definitely a fusion cannon. All I wanted to write was that there is a possiblility that his right arm is a fusion cannon, or at least part of a whole. The scene with Jazz is up for interpretation, but I think it should be added so others who read this article can decide for themselves. As far as getting someone else's opinion, you will have to get someone to help with that. I don't know how to ask any of the main editors and I assume you probably do. Just have them comment in this section with an opinion on it.--[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 1:39, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

==why didnt you jsut fixed it?==
instead of removing all i wrote on the movie Starscream page, why didnt you just Fixed my typos and mistakes? {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Because I couldn't even understand what it was you were trying to say. Your poor English goes far beyond simple spelling errors. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:46, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
::Okay, in that case, lets keep a Character Stub template (which i already did) {{unsigned|Eagc7}}

== Dude, STOP. NOW. ==

Abra cannot learn Hypnosis. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 23:19, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
: Seriously, you are now the wiki's worst vandal. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:31, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

== The Autobot Hero ==

I had thought of reverting his edit to Fire on the Mountain the same as you did, but decided against it as the internal link was a redlink. Are we planning on having an [[Andes Mountains]] page? If not, he actually did the right thing. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:13, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:Well, [[Peru]] wasn't a redlink. Standard seems to be that locations where stuff happens in fiction deserve wiki articles. The Andes mountains do come up in both Fire in the Mountain and the Japanese PS2 Transformers game, so the location deserves a proper TFWiki article, IMO. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:17, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
::And the Kid Stuff audiobooks have the Andes partially destroyed in "Storms of Destruction". [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:48, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:::Thanks for that! Added the link to it too. I'd love to make a page for it (being the huge Mysterious Cities of Gold nerd that I am) but since I don't have access to any of the material they show up in, there isn't much I can do. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:56, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

==Editing==
I read the "Help:Editing" page.-[[User:Dirgeor|Dirgeor]] 20:02, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

== Crowbar ==
I'm quite not sure why you removed my photo of Crowbar. Can you please tell me?
:Because it's a horrible shot that barely shows Crowbar at all, if that's even him. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:05, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
It is him, you can clearly see Crankcase in another shot. I can understand that the shot wasn't great, but it's better than an inaccurate representation of him in Cyberverse form.

== Crisscross "Error" ==

Rather than risk a revert war, I'll simply discuss the matter here first.

If the package was delivered to the garage while Arcee was away for some unknown length of time, why should she question its origin? I still say someone from MECH could have broken into the garage, delivered the package, and locked up on their way out, thus accounting for the package's presence. (Yes, it's something of an error not to explain it in-story, but I think that's at least a feasible explanation.)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 02:05, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
: That's how I read the sequence of events. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 04:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
: You make some good points. But after even two watchings the whole thing still felt weird. When you stop and think about it, only Jack or June could've taken care of the package... If Arcee assumes June has... she'd know Arcee wasn't in the garage. So... why's she so casual about the package? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:06, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
:: My postman leaves packages in my garage all the time if I'm not there to take delivery, honestly. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

== Editing ==
Can we please discuss our debates before filing pages for deletion? I have a strong argument. Please just listen to me.
-[[User:PurpleCyclops|Caleb]]
:No. You don't. Preliminary names are just that, '''preliminary'''. We're not calling Mirage "Rush", and the same applies to Crowbar and Hatchet. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:18, 3 July 2011 (EDT)
Rush isn't the final name for Mirage. Hatchet is a typhoon fighter jet. Crowbar is a Carbon Motors E7 Police car. The trio in the film are suburbans. This is not the case of renaming them. This is the case of '''different character'''.
:No, this is the case of '''different altmodes'''. Do we consider Sideways anyone but Sideways? Because his toy sure as hell wasn't a screen-accurate Audi, and didn't even use the proper color scheme. You're being utterly ridiculous. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:38, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

I was saying that the characters were most likely different since they hadn't the right altmode or altmode size, since Hatchet would be much too big to be a suburban, if he was a jet, and Crowbar would be too small if he was a police car. Sorry bout everything though, I agree, my argument '''is''' ridiculous.

== Joke ==
By reference, I meant a reference to something. A joke. Jokes aren't meant to be useful. And this wiki is full of them. One on almost every image. Which isn't very useful, when they could have a informative caption. But that's one of my favorite things about this wiki. It's humor. Once again, I find you reverting anything I post. Can't I just add a simple joke that can appeal to some people, without attracting the attention of you?
:It's humor, yes, but it's still a wiki. Signal to noise ratio is the key here, and smashing a bad joke about train delays in the first sentence of Astrotrain's bio isn't the way to go about it. Signal to noise, the wiki must be funny but also informative. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:21, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

You do have a point. I agree it is still a wiki, and it's not that informative. However you kind of missed the joke. A popular quote in a T.V. show about trains from my childhood was when the person would scold the train, he would say "you've caused confusion and delay". Nothing to do with train delays.

== Spam ==

Does [[User talk:Dynamic|THIS]] count as Spam?--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 15:39, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
:Not really. Spam is more people and/or bots trying to scam people with advertisements. Dynamic's talk page doesn't fall into that. I'm not sure what he's trying to do, either he's trying to share an easter egg with the wiki or he's trying to spark a discussion, either way it's not really spam. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:16, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
== Volume Number ==
Woops, sorry about that. After that anon troll was just going around changing tiny things on the year pages, I ended up with a bit of an itchy trigger finger. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:13, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

== Dave Fennoy Picture ==

Hi There. Could you find a picture of [[Dave Fennoy]] for his page?

== Doctor Arkeville in sound and furry ==

When the Hot Dog Bot rebels the man he is serving has the distinct rounded triangle jaw and mad scientist like hair style of G1 villain Doctor Arkeville. can you tell me anouther human character in either show has one of these characteristics yet he has both of them, it is pretty clear he is a homage to the classic decepticon allied human please stop reverting this
:Yeah, and I suppose Doc Brown is a Doctor Arkeville homage too? It's very common for old men to their hair up top, have their hair lose color and get a longer jaw. Just because one incidental character sported those features doesn't automatically mean HOMAGE. Please stop grasping at straws. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:37, 10 October 2011 (EDT)

:Doc Brown did not have a triangular rounded jaw and as for the hair several scientist in fiction have it as homage to Albert Einstein. However I am not aware of any other transformers characters that this hair style. Plus I have never seen or heard of anyone getting a longer jaw when they got older. It is not grasping at straws as much as seeing a comparison somebody made between the two and adding it here.
::No metal hat & hand = No Arkeville. --Thy2k, not logged in

== Found cosmos art from official artist! ==

I found some art of cosmy! should we replace the main page now? its from the official artist's deviantart page, sides we got most of the moving violations character photos from devianart too. for cosmos art see link http://tehkoreandude.deviantart.com/gallery/24312266#/d3lnp2f --User:Jazzerprime
:That's not official Transformers art. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:31, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

== Tell me ==

Do you actually look at people's edits before you revert them? --[[User:TheOnlyChoice|TheOnlyChoice]] 04:13, 16 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yes. And you only had two edits the last one a month ago, before suddenly declaring yourself the lord of what's sucky or not. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:22, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

== It's true. ==

If they hadn't fallen in because of the surge, five seconds later, it would have turned them into transmetals and the lava wouldn't have had any more effect than a hot bath. If that doesn't describe irony, nothing does. [[Special:Contributions/70.77.36.81|70.77.36.81]] 20:40, 30 October 2011 (EDT)
:I don't recall lava immunity being a Transmetal power. Just because Tarantulas survived it doesn't mean everyone else can, nor dor it indicate that survival was directly due to Transmetalness. Also, noting it purely out of "irony" is like saying it's ironic Ironhide's shuttle was on an Energon run because if they weren't low on Energon they would've survived the Decepticon attack. It's silly and pointless. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:44, 30 October 2011 (EDT)

== Can you Remove ==
Can you remove "Luis Daniel Ramírez" page, since it seems this guy Arturo Castañeda is going to be Jack Darby voice in the spanish dub of Prime {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Sorry, I'm not a mod or an admin here so I don't have the power to do this. I'll tag it for deletion, though, if that help. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:28, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

== image tags ==

There are always stupid tags to images on a number of pages could you please stop putting these corny and rediculous tags. {{unsigned|108.66.204.65}}
:If by "tags" you mean the captions, then I recommend you familiarize yourself with [[Transformers Wiki:Caption|the wiki's policies regarding captions]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:56, 10 November 2011 (EST)

== Arcee ==
Thank you very much for restoring that caption. Much appreciated. [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 03:34, 26 November 2011 (EST)

== "Double Bruticus" ==

And the reason to remove the comment was...?
: The wiki in general does not cover unofficial fancreations. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:58, 8 February 2012 (EST)

I guessing you think you have everything in Transformers prime, right?

== Steeljaw/Red Alert link ==

Huh. Didn't even see that link between the two. Thanks. Should the minor edit to [[Final Transformations]] be reverted to the Red Alert article as a whole, or keep the link to Red Alert's G2 (and only Marvel) appearance?
[[User:Pakopako|Pakopako]] 22:57, 29 February 2012 (EST)
:No, linking it to the G2 section was a good idea, since it refers to that specific event. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:09, 29 February 2012 (EST)
::Heh. Apologies about that. My connection is stuttering at the moment. [[User:Pakopako|Pakopako]] 00:36, 1 March 2012 (EST)

==Why do you delete my...?==
excuse me why do you delete my dreadwing image?
:Because it already existed on the wiki in its proper place. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:39, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

why have you deleted my leadfoot foto?[[user:Shockwave1704]]
:Because it has no reason to be in the Notes section. The Notes section is not a place to arbitrarily put whatever image tickles your fancy. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:39, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

the other user has told me to put the image there [[user:Shockwave1704]]
:Andrusi said '''maybe''' if you followed proper [[Transformers Wiki:Images|image guidelines]] that it ''might'' be able to go in the Notes section, not that you could just put it in the Notes section. And even then, as he himself admits on the Leadfoot page, he was wrong on that count. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:51, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

so i can't add this image nowhere[[user:Shockwave1704]]

are you french? --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 12:18, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
: No, he's Canadian.....--[[Special:Contributions/81.164.215.61|81.164.215.61]] 12:19, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

ah ok, because there are some sentences in the france article that could be offensive --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 12:31, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

In World War II, France surrendered in the face of foreign invasion, leaving the population to suffer under a genocidal dictatorship for four years. This is seen as a source of hilarious jokes by some other nations.
[[User:Shockwave1704]]
:I don't really see how that's offensive. If anything, it reflects poorly on the aforementionned "other nations". =p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:50, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
::yes, but in this article French army = cowards--[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 15:01, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
:::No, the article says that people from other nations like to make jokes about the French being cowards. That is not the same thing as saying that the French are cowards. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:06, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
::::i disagree with you, but if you think so...--[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 15:26, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
:::::I really think this is a symptom of your level of English comprehension. To a native English speaker, the paragraph you quoted says exactly what I said it does. It is hard enough working in a language that you do not speak fluently, dealing with all of the humor on this site will make it even harder on you as many of the jokes simply won't translate. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:21, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

in my opinion humor is a symbol for every country. Italian people have got their humor, French people have got their humor, English people have got their humor. So it's possible that Italian people think your humorism is a little offensive. --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 08:57, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
:No, it's your tenuous grasp on English that's making you miss the joke. Now drop it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:12, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

what? no, in my opinion you don't appreciate our humor because we are very different. I don't want to criticize you, but everyone can think how he wants --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 10:25, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
:I haven't seen any instances of your humor anywhere. It's just clear you don't even ''get'' the damn joke. So drop the subject. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:33, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

Bah --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 10:37, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

== Jokerberg ==

I love your Jokerberg statement when you edited [[Daran Norris]].--[[User:Ultra-Humanite|Humanite]] 22:18, 20 March 2012 (EDT)
:Thank you! --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:15, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

Thanks for fixing the help page. XD [[User:Jacktransformerdude|Jacktransformerdude]] 00:47, 21 March 2012 (EDT)

== "Useless padding" ==

I sort of chuckled when I saw this line from you, good on you for having a sense of humour about it. :)
I couldn't help but notice, friend, that about a third of the information on this entire Wiki is "useless padding", meaningless trivia put there for no reason other than to impart interesting information to the reader. And of the remaining information, about a third of ''that'' is flat-out jokes inserted simply to make people laugh. Looking over the rest of that one page, off the top of my head, Toronto being the biggest city in Canada has absolutely nothing to do with Transformers, and the relationship between 'there are no Target stores in Canada' and Transformers is so tangential that it's just about on the same level. So I ask you, why did you ''really'' remove that information from the page? Really, if I don't know, I won't be able to avoid the mistake in the future. [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] 22:19, 7 May 2012 (EDT)

== Periods and Spaces ==

Oh, it's no trouble, friend. I just copy the text of the page from the edit window into notepad and then find-and-replace ". " with ". " to fix it up. Then I just copy it back over and go on with my regular correction of spelling errors and grammar checking. It's easy, and it's my pleasure to improve the quality of the Wiki. :-)
Also, some interesting reading for you to back up my position: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] 23:43, 9 May 2012 (EDT)
:You're missing the point. It DOESN'T improve the quality of the wiki because it ISN'T WRONG. The link you provided is to an OPINION PIECE. It is the policy of this wiki that we don't care whether you use one space or two after a period and that there is no need to change one for the other. It's kind of like how we do not have a preference between US and UK spellings. Also, "friend", you are coming off rather smarmy and condescending here. That is not likely to get many people to back your position.--

== Subscription service figures ==

I had put those on the 2012 listing because that is what the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] page said. Should we change that page? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:02, 10 May 2012 (EDT)

== Faceless tags ==
I'm not the one removing them. [[Special:Contributions/TFMAN|TFMAN]] is. I just remove what he puts there in place of them. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:40, 18 May 2012 (EDT)
:Use the Undo button, that way you undo all the things he's changed, rather than just removing what he's added without putting back what he's removed. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:41, 18 May 2012 (EDT)
::Alright, will do. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:43, 18 May 2012 (EDT)

== Vocab ==

I have a pretty good vocabulary. Plus the captions were for a lot stuff I remember growing up as a kid. Good Times Huh? The Picture for [[Tim Curry]]'s page was just Wow. I have never seen that movie before.[[User:SirSpoonwave|SirSpoonwave]] 02:16, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

== Allspark Addendum ==

Thanks for help on the SG Animated pages. I'm used to making minor edits, and I don't have much experience on templates besides the bunny rabbit page. ([[Special:Contributions/184.56.31.203|184.56.31.203]] 19:01, 31 May 2012 (EDT))

==IDW==
If i'm doing such a bad job, why don't you do those articles then? I've been at it forever, trying to edit that thing. Ed
: It would help if your additions were about the characters the article is about. Most of your "How Ratchet Got His Hands Back" additions to First Aid's page were about Ratchet! And it didn't mention at all that First Aid was promoted to Chief Medical Officer, which is the most important thing that happened to First Aid in that issue. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:06, 4 June 2012 (EDT)

== Animated toy/merchandise section ==

I added "Fast food kids meal toys" subsections to [[Megatron (Animated)]] and [[Starscream (Animated)]] pages. With that, the pages got the same "Toys" layout of [[Optimus Prime (Animated)/toys|Optimus Prime (Animated)]] and [[Bumblebee (Animated)]], with an Subsection for each "toyline". If the subsection is wrong, it need to be removed from OP and BB pages. If the subsection is OK, why you removed they from Megatron and Starscream page?

And why you put the toys as available "only in Mexico and Venezuela"? I am in Brazil and have to eat some McDonalds Happy Meal to have my toys. Probably the toy was available in all Latin America (but this is a guess, for sure it was available in Brazil).
:The subsections are present on Bumblebee and Prime's pages because they have a '''huge''' amount of toys and merchandise to their name, which requires extra subsections. By contrast, Megatron and Starscream's numbers are more manageable, hence why the fast food premiums aren't categorized the same way. You'll notice Megs and Screams don't have subsections for Activators, Deluxe, Voyager, etc. either.
:As for why I only said Mexico and Venezuela, that's because that's all that's listed on the [[List of Transformers restaurant promotions]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:39, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
::Makes sense, but Starscream have the "Universe (2008)" subsection. Don't know why the "Fast food" subsection hurts, but will not re-add it, I was only trying to make the toy sections of each character more or less with the same layout/design. Before I waste my time, I have a lot of Merchandise itens to add for Megatron and Starscream (more for Megatron than for Starscream), it's OK to create an Merchandise section? I'll edit the [[List of Transformers restaurant promotions]] to be more accurate and include Brazil there. --[[User:Sharpfinger|Sharpfinger]] 20:48, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

==Shattered Expectations reference in Triage==
It's a rather obvious nod to it. If that's not considered a reference than you might as well not consider the "Beast Machines" line in TMI as a reference. {{unsigned|108.11.36.231}}
:Shattering expectations is a commonly used term, hence why it was fan-applied to Shattered Expectations proper. It's not a reference. Stop saying it is. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:34, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
::If by "fan-applied" you man "the writers of the comic actually named it that", sure. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:49, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
::But it's almost completely out of place. That's like removing the thing about Hardshell saying "yes" in Toxicity by that logic.
:::It's not out of place, he just shattered Soundwave's visor, and that's the joke. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:09, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

== how to act towards others ==

I think for someone who acts like they own the wiki you should think about how you talk to poeple. As a member of the wiki you should show a little respect towards your fellow members start deleing peoples posts with out saying why and then starting personal attacks is a big no you make yourself look bad and the wiki.[[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 13:45, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
:I started no personal attacks. You, on the other hand, called me an a-hole. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:55, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
I think he's just suggesting stuff, right? (lobythelegend 13:49, 22 June 2012 (EDT))

:I know you're angry, but why is that it seems that you're always in a bad mood to everyone who messes up in the Wiki? lobythelegend 13:46, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

== Accents ==

Ah, I had forgotten that. May I suggest this, then:
:The ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'' film in 2007 takes the alternate tac that Optimus Prime and his troops learned Earth languages — including English ''and'' Mandarin Chinese, according to the novelization — by studying the [[Internet]]; presumably, each Autobot chose the accent that best fit their natural voice. The Decepticons generally use the Cybertronian language. This distinction is lost in the sequels, in which all Autobots and Decepticons speak English even when, canonically, they have had no prior contact with the language.
'cause we really need to get rid of the paragraph that is there now.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 15:01, 29 August 2012 (EDT)

Accent

2012-08-29T17:28:39Z

192.249.47.177: I may be wrong, but I believe the Fallen and Sentinel have zero excuse to be speaking English

{{cleanup|April 2011|This is in serious need of formatting, condensing and general fixing up.}}

[[Image:MMP2 Cosmos at controls.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Wheeere eeess the Malteeese Faalcon?]]
In virtually all versions of ''Transformers'' fiction that involves audible voice work, the voices of those Cybertronian characters feature identifiable '''accents'''. While the vast majority speak with what could be described as a generic American accent, there are a plethora of examples across different continuities of characters who speak with strong accents that are similar or identical to other human accents.

The "behind-the-scenes" reason for this is reasonably simple — in a show where thirty different robot characters have speaking lines, a memorable accent or [[Soundwave (G1)|vocal quirk]] helps distinguish between "[[Starscream (G1)|the red jet guy]]", "[[Thundercracker (G1)|the blue jet guy]]", and "[[Ramjet (G1)|the grey jet guy]]". Furthermore, for better or worse, these stereotypical presentations help give audiences a "mental image" of the character — [[Beachcomber (G1)|the guy who talks like a beatnik]] is probably laid-back, relaxed, and totally cool. The [[Ironhide (G1)|guy with the slow drawl]] is a rough and tumble cowboy who doesn't particularly cotton to all that fancy business, pardner. Accents, in this context, provide a sort of "cultural shorthand," which is not even limited to Western audiences — Japanese audiences have their own cliched stereotypes as well.

There's also the voice actor angle to consider — some actors play multiple characters within the same series, and adding various accents helps distinguish between them. Having two characters who sound essentially similar, save that one is "[[Outback (G1)|Australian]]" and one is "American" allows a VA to play multiple roles discreetly.

The in-story explanation for all of this is usually... lacking. Most continuities do not explicitly point out how or when the Transformers learned to speak the dominant native language upon coming to [[Earth]], and indeed will often have scenes — particularly flashbacks - which depict them speaking Earthly languages with their individual accents while still on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], before encountering humans. If one takes these scenes somewhat literally, it would indicate that these accents or some kind of approximations (although probably not the language itself) are ''somehow'' native to Cybertron — after all, [[wikipedia:Doctor Who|lots of planets have a "north"]]. Although it could be speculated that different Cybertronian social groups, class structures, geographical regionalisation or even [[Humanization|ethnicities]] may be the origin of these differences in accent, it is an issue which remains unaddressed in official fiction. A major exception would be [[Jetfire (Armada)|Cybertron Jetfire]], whose change from "regular" accent to Australian accent between ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]'' is explained by his having picked up the local accent after spending time on the planet [[Nebulos|Nebulon]]. The ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'' film in 2007 takes the alternate tac that Optimus Prime and his troops learned Earth languages — including English ''and'' Mandarin Chinese, according to the novelization — by studying the [[Internet]]; presumably, each Autobot chose the accent that best fit their natural voice. Conversely, apart from the previously-imprisoned Megatron, the Decepticons are only depicted using the Cybertronian language. This distinction is lost in the sequels, in which all Autobots and Decepticons speak English even when, canonically, they have had no prior contact with the language.

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[[Category:Transformer culture]]

Talk:GEEWUN

2012-08-28T18:08:46Z

192.249.47.177: /* Cracked.com */ new section

Why do I get the feeling that this page is going to become a war zone? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 23:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:Because it's raping our childhoods? [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 00:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

What we should do is find that New York Post (or whichever is the NY tabloid) article about the guy who proudly refuses to watch the movie, and made the vaugley threatening comment that Hollywood shouldn't mess with HIS childhood. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:18, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I thought people were more mad over the fact that movie Optimus had a mouth...?
:I doubt it. He wasn't even the first one. Optimus Primal and Cybertron Optimus Prime both had mouths. - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 07:50, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, on TFW, at least, using this term is now equatable to using the N-word in the minds of a number of fans... Any other board have this problem, and if they do, should this be added?[[Special:Contributions/67.242.198.238|67.242.198.238]] 22:15, 15 January 2010 (EST)
:I have to admit, I'd be a bit put out if I discovered my sister was dating a Geewunner. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:24, 15 January 2010 (EST)
:It is? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 06:57, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::Then those fans are stupid. And obviously fat white guys. Now, if the term is a bannable offense somewhere, that might be worth caring about. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:30, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::Uh, yeah. While that's not the worst "first-world problems" bullshit I've ever heard in my life, it's pretty high up there, just as much as "raped my childhood". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:44, 16 January 2010 (EST)

== We need a article on fan snark ==

It's heavily implied but never outright stated...while we have pages dedicated to deader than dirt catchphrase unearthed on decade old newgroups posts. To make a long story short, after reading this wiki for years I think the snarks come off as more bitter and loud than they whiners they dump on. {{unsigned|67.159.36.27}}
:We have a page for a deader-than-dirt catchphrase? Which one? --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 12:00, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
::I think this refers to this page. I also think this anon may have been Cliffjumper. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:46, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
:::Ah, see, I was thinking the anon was somehow under the impression that "Trukk not munky" was long-forgotten or something. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 10:50, 26 September 2011 (EDT)

::::The anon wasn't me. But feel free to continue second-guessing things. [[Special:Contributions/79.74.86.73|79.74.86.73]] 07:14, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

== Anyone have a copy of that first use? ==

It seems like Cliffjumper retracted his old post where he first used the term "Geewun" sometime in July, so the link to it isn't all that informative anymore. Is there some kind of copy or cached version we could link to instead? --[[Special:Contributions/161.253.51.49|161.253.51.49]] 10:11, 24 September 2011 (EDT)

P.S. to the above- Judging by the content of the recently edited version of Cliffjumper's post, I think he doesn't like this page all that much. Ironic, isn't it?--[[Special:Contributions/161.253.51.49|161.253.51.49]] 10:18, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
:I don't see what Cliffjumper's problem is. We aren't making fun of the fact that people mis-remember, we are making fun of people who place their flawed memories above the facts even when the facts are carefully explained to them. It is this inability to accept error and change that is worthy of derision not their ignorance (in the pure, non-pejorative sense of lack of knowledge) that we are railing against. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:25, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
::I don't get it either, because it's exactly as Khajidha says. We aren't making fun of people for misremembering. We're making fun of them for not being able to ADMIT that they are or even could possibly be misremembering when presented with sound reasoning for why. I found an archived version at the Wayback Machine and changed the link. Should we note the reason for using the archived version? --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 12:44, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
::I don't see why not- linking to the version that was up earlier just confused me, which is why I brought this up earlier. --[[Special:Contributions/161.253.51.49|161.253.51.49]] 11:07, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

== The ultimate Geewunner ==

[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-general-discussion/615489-what-characters-killed-g1.html Transformers was ruined FOREVER in 1985!]--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 14:38, 17 June 2012 (EDT)

== Cracked.com ==

Would it be worth mentioning that any article cracked.com makes that touches on Transformers has a clear Geewun viewpoint? I can provide examples if necessary, but a quick search of "transformers" or "michael bay" should be sufficient.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 14:08, 28 August 2012 (EDT)

Onslaught (WFC)

2012-08-24T22:24:24Z

192.249.47.177:

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Onslaught}}
:''Onslaught is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)| War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:WFC_Onslaught_bot.jpg|thumb|300px|Status as roaring and/or a dudicus: unconfirmed.]]

The [[Combaticon (WFC)|Combaticon]]s are a fairly unruly mob, and it takes a strict leader to keep them in check. Thankfully, '''Onslaught''' fills that roll nicely. Precision, strategy, and cunning are his watchwords, and they'll be necessary to reign in his troops. Submitting himself to [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]]'s [[combiner]] experiments, he became the core of the dangerously unstable gestalt form known as [[Bruticus (Prime)|Bruticus]].

==Fiction==
===''Exodus''===
Onslaught was put into [[stasis lock]] under [[Crystal City]] with the rest of Bruticus Maximus when Shockwave's combination experiment proved unsuccessful. After [[Devastator (WFC)|Devastator]] destroyed Crystal City, Bruticus was revived and sent to [[Kalis]]. But the Autobots won, with [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]], [[Jazz (WFC)|Jazz]] and [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] taking down the giant. Sideswipe boasted he tore off Bruticus's head, which was formed by Onslaught. Bruticus was later repaired and deployed at [[Praxus]] and spearheaded the [[Nova Cronum]] massacre. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3)===

{{Note|Onslaught is a downloadable content character<ref name="WFC DLC listing">[http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/07/first-transformers-war-for-cybertron-dlc-contains-all-three-preorder-characters/ First Transformers: War For Cybertron DLC Contains All Three Preorder Characters, Kotaku.com, July 3 2010]</ref>, made available by downloading the ''Transformers: War for Cybertron Map and Character Pack''. He is not playable in the ''War for Cybertron'' storyline campaign. He was available for the XBox 360 and PS3 versions of the game, but not for the PC version.}}

{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}
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===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Brad Davidorf]]
[[Image:WFC_Onslaught_vehicle.jpg|thumb|250px|Noticeably lacking in fandom shout-outs.]]

{{Note|Onslaught is an unlockable character for the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Nintendo DS version]] of ''War for Cybertron'' (Decepticon version), unlocked by finding a disc in the mission "Reactivating the Energon Bridge" (requires Heavy and Light class characters). Like the other unlockable characters, he can replace any of the other Decepticons in the campaign mode.}}

Onslaught defended the [[Dark Energon]] injection machines. Wielding a large hammer, he introduced himself to his foes with a simple, "Get ready for an ONSLAUGHT!", but was eventually defeated by the Autobots.
{{Storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}
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===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron''===
{{comingsoon}}
[[Image:FOC-OnslaughtStarscream.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Now available in lime.]]

Onslaught now forms the torso and head of Bruticus along with the other Combaticons.
{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron}}
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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-Onslaught.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Decepticon Bruticus''' (multi-pack, 2012)
**''Accessories:'' Cannons
: This [[San Diego Comic-Con 2012]] [[exclusive]] pack contains all five Combaticons. Although the general vibe of the set is game-accurate colors, Onslaught is actually substantially ''less'' accurate as an individual, sacrificing his own colors to better serve as Bruticus' head and torso.

: This toy was "redecoed" into its own mass-release deco, below, as well as into a ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]''-styled [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]]. It was later [[retool]]ed into [[Impactor (Prime)|Impactor]].
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{{anchor|Retail}}
[[Image:Generationstoy-RetailOnslaught.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Onslaught''' (Deluxe, 2012)
**''Accessories:'' Cannons
: Onslaught transforms from a blue and green Cybertronic truck to a robot. He combines with his fellow Combaticons to form the torso of [[Bruticus (Prime)|Bruticus]]. His vehicle's roof-mounted cannon can be held in robot mode, plug into the back of Bruticus, or combine with the weapons of the other Combaticons to form a giant Sonic Cannon. Surprisingly, his colours are actually more accurate than the SDCC version.

{{comingsoontoy}}
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==Notes==
* At one point, ''Exodus'' refers to Onslaught as a Constructicon, but this seems likely to be an error as the Combaticon name is used later.
* Onslaught is usable in both the Autobot and Decepticon versions of the ''War for Cybertron'' games for the DS. Used only for multiplayer, bonus missions and Arena mode in the Autobot version and used in Multiplayer, Arena mode, and campaign in the Decepticon version.
* A glitch causes Onslaught (or rather [[Leader (WFC)|Leader]] class characters using his "Tactical Rig" model) to be immune to the [[Scout (WFC)|Scout]]'s Mark target ability in ''War for Cybertron'''s competitive multiplayer while in robot mode, but it works when in vehicle mode.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Combaticons]]
[[Category:Generations]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]
[[Category:Fall of Cybertron Decepticons]]

Vortex (FOC)

2012-08-24T22:24:11Z

192.249.47.177:

{{faction|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Vortex}}
:''Vortex is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[image:FOC_Vortex.jpg|thumb|left/right|300px|]]

'''Vortex''' isn't much of a fighter. Instead, what Autobots fear is being caught in his magnetic grapples. Once they are in his clutches, Vortex will execute a series of terrifying maneuvers that leave his victims scared oilless, shortly before dropping them to the planet surface, shellshocked, to their deaths. Along with the other [[Combaticon (WFC)|Combaticon]]s, he can form [[Bruticus (Prime)|Bruticus]].

==Games==
===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron'' (360/PS3/PC)===
[[Image:FOC-Vortex.jpg|left|thumb|200px]]

At one point, Vortex encountered a large structure resembling a climbing frame that he must climb to the top of, fighting Autobot enemies along the way. <ref>[http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/884575-transformers-fall-of-cybertron-exclusive-interview-planetary-reboot Trasnformers: Fall of Cybertron exclusive interview.]</ref>

{{comingsoon}}
{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron}}
===Stats===
Vortex is armed in his vehicle mode with two machine guns and a single-shot thermo rocket launcher. The machine guns need to be spun up before firing at top speed, and the bullets travel slower than other weapons. His default weapon is a Neutron assault rifle. Vortex's ability is shockwave, which deals damage to and pushes away nearby enemies.

An interesting fact is that although he is a helicopter, when he uses his boost in his vehicle mode, he converts into a type of jet, unlike other airplane transformers, who simply boost in the same/slightly different vehicle form.
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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-Vortex.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Decepticon Bruticus''' (multi-pack, 2012)
**''Accessories:'' 2 swords

: This [[San Diego Comic-Con 2012]] [[exclusive]] pack contains all five Combaticons in game-accurate colors.

: This toy was "redecoed" into its own mass-release deco, below, as well as into a ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]''-styled [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]]. It was later [[retool]]ed into [[Whirl (Generations)|Whirl]].
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{{anchor|Retail}}
[[Image:Generationstoy-RetailVortex.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Vortex''' (Deluxe, 2012)
**''Accessories:'' 2 swords

:Vortex transforms from a red Cybertronic attack helicopter into a robot. He can also combine with his fellow Combaticon warriors to form any limb of Bruticus, though his default position is as the left arm. In arm mode, his hand features a thumb which can fold over to either side of the palm so that it can be used as either a left or right arm. His two swords can plug into either side of his copter mode, be wielded as either swords or rifles in robot mode, or combine with the weapons of the other Combaticons to form the Sonic Cannon.

{{comingsoontoy}}
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==Notes==
* Vortex's body parts are available to [[Scientist (WFC)|Scientist]]-class characters in ''Fall of Cybertron'' multiplayer, identified as Vanguard-type components. Because of his unique vehicle mode, there are no Vanguard-type wings.

==Footnotes==
{{Reflist}}

[[Category:Combaticons]]
[[Category:Generations]]
[[Category:Fall of Cybertron Decepticons]]

Swindle (FOC)

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{{faction|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Swindle}}
:''Swindle is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron| Fall of Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[image:FOC_Swindle.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Who's got two thumbs and loads of personality in his box art?]]

Unlike his fellow Decepticons, '''Swindle''' doesn't really care about the fate of the universe. No, the war for [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] is actually a pretty swag business opportunity! While he's acting as the leg of [[Bruticus (Prime)|Bruticus]], Swindle thinks only of what he'll get in trade for [[Autobot]] bodies he's stomping once the current battle ends.

{{TOCclear}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron'' (360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actors:'' [[Steve Blum]] (English)
[[Image:FOC-Swindlecap.jpg|left|thumb|200px|]]

{{comingsoon}}
{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron}}

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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-Swindle.jpg|right|thumb|300px|My [[:Image:Alternators_Swindle_toy.jpg|Alternators Swindle head]] makes [[Derrick Wyatt]] SO ANGRY]]
*'''Decepticon Bruticus''' (multi-pack, 2012)
**''Accessories'': Blaster

: The first version of Swindle released was part of a [[San Diego Comic-Con 2012]] [[exclusive]] pack containing all five Combaticons in game-accurate colors. Swindle transforms into a Cybertronic jeep-like vehicle. His blaster can be mounted on the vehicle top. He can form any limb to Bruticus, though his nominal placement is as the right leg.

: This mold was used for a ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]''-styled [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]], and later [[retool]]ed into [[Roadbuster (Prime)#Toys|Roadbuster]].

{{-}}{{anchor|Retail}}
[[Image:Generationstoy-RetailSwindle.jpg|thumb|300px|Stay gold, with a bang.]]
*'''Swindle''' (Deluxe, 2012)
**''Accessories'': Blaster

: Part of the second wave of the 2012 ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' line, this version of Swindle is cast in much brighter colors to "pop" more on shelves. He retains all of the functionality of the "game-accurate" version.

{{comingsoontoy}}
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[[Category:Combaticons]]
[[Category:Generations]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]
[[Category:Fall of Cybertron Decepticons]]

Swindle (Animated)

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{{faction|decepticon}}
{{disambig3.5|the evil Decepticon|his heroic Decepticon counterpart|Swindle (SG Animated)|Swindle}}
:''Swindle is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Swindleanimated.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"Ladies and gentlebots, I'm going to show you the greatest upgrade ever made. The SwindleCo™ Blast-o-Matic™ can blast your enemies to julienne fries with all the precision and quality you've come to expect from a SwindleCo™ product. But wait, there's more!"]]

Quick, hide the silver! An entrepreneur with few equals, the smooth-talking '''Swindle''' is always ready to make a deal. Trading extensively with many alien races and loaded down with their respective technologies, his goods are highly useful to interstellar warlords, bounty hunters, and many, many others. Though nominally a Decepticon, he just views the Cybertronian civil war as yet another business opportunity, one which has kept him living posh for centuries and could be great for his bottom line again now that it's starting back up.

{{quote|Scruples? You'd sell your own motherboard to the highest bidder.|[[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] scoffs at Swindle's spiel|"[[SUV: Society of Ultimate Villainy]]"}}

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
{{Idw-tfa}}
:''Voice actor:'' [[Fred Willard]] (English), [[Nobutoshi Canna]] (Japanese), [[Dieter Memel]] (German), [[Ivo de Palma]] (Italian), [[Felipe Grinnan]] (Portuguese)

''While [[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] was negotiating with [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]], he was interrupted by [[Lugnut (Animated)|Lugnut]], who was incensed that his comrade-in-arms would deal with bounty-hunting scum. Finding himself outgunned in this fight, Blitzwing was ''extremely'' lucky to find that Swindle had chosen that moment to pay a visit to the base on [[New Kaon]]. Providing the Triple Changer with enhanced weaponry (and a convenient payment plan), Swindle watched as the fight escalated. Each time, he was more than happy to provide each side with ever-increasing hardware, up to and including planetbuster weaponry. So much for New Kaon. Once the pair of Decepticons found out that Swindle was arming ''both'' of them, they took things up with customer service, leaving Swindle a fair bit worse for wear. But, he took it in stride. After all, the customer is always right.'' {{storylink|Everything Must Go}}

[[Image:Swindle and weapon.jpg|left|200px|thumb|"What would you say if I told you that you don't have to fight Autobots? You'd say I'm crazy, right? That I'm out of my head? Well that is exactly what I'm telling you about this amazing product from SwindleCo™!"]]

Swindle found out about the situation on [[Earth]] after a little business transaction with Lockdown. Upon his arrival, he made a deal with the newly formed [[Society of Ultimate Villainy]]: they'd steal components he needed, and he'd give them monetary compensation. He set the arrangement up anonymously, communicating with them through the radio in their new getaway vehicle, a present of sorts that he'd provided. When they had stolen the parts, he had them construct a generator. Sadly, the deal went sour when he asked [[Slo-Mo]] to hand over her AllSpark-powered timepiece. She refused, and he let them in on his little secret: He ''was'' the getaway vehicle.

[[Image:TFASwindlefullyarmed.jpg|right|150px|thumb|"That's not all, though! If you order right now, I am offering this exclusive accessory package, compliments of the good folks here at SwindleCo™!"]]

He dispatched most of the SUV and used his force field (acquired in a deal with a race known as the [[Vok]] from [[Nexus Zero]], nice folks) to protect himself from Slo-Mo's watch. He took it from her and contacted his old client [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]]. After a few pleasantries, he demonstrated the generator's ability to freeze everything mechanical in Detroit, including the [[Autobot|Autobots]]. Unfortunately, before the deal could go through, [[Bumblebee (Animated)|a shielded Autobot]] and the SUV burst in and managed to knock him over the side of the parking block on which he had stationed himself. While he managed to reacquire the watch, he was frozen in his vehicle mode when a blast ricocheted off of the Autobot's shield. He was last seen being towed by [[Carmine Fanzone|the police]], who promised to strip apart the paralyzed Decepticon and sell his insides at a police auction. Bloody ''hell!'' ([[B.O.T. (episode)|The irony probably wasn't lost on him]].) {{storylink|SUV: Society of Ultimate Villainy}}

Swindle was later "apprehended" by [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]]... in that Sentinel paid a fine to the Detroit police department and had the still-stuck-in-vehicle-mode Decepticon towed to the Autobot ship. {{storylink|Five Servos of Doom}} He and almost all of the Earth-based Decepticons were transported as prisoners back to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Predacons Rising}}

Since Swindle was mode-locked and offline, the Elite Guard simply parked him in their ship's brig, not taking care to secure him. This proved to be a mistake when an energy storm in space revived him. Swindle freed the other Decepticons, waiving the usual service charge as a sign of good faith to friends of his "best customer" Megatron. Swindle was able to use the numerous gadgets and weapons inside his own [[subspace|personal storage dimension]] to re-arm the Decepticons and defeat the Elite Guard — as well as accessorizing the [[Starscream clone (Animated)|Starscream clones]] so he could [[conehead|finally tell them apart]]. His [[Sonic Jammer 3000]] got them through the Elite Guard's alarms and into the main bridge, plus handily incapacitated [[Jetfire (Animated)|Jetfire]] and [[Jetstorm (Animated)|Jetstorm]]. After [[Jazz (Animated)|Jazz]] and Sentinel fell, Swindle convinced Lugnut to spare their lives for now, as not only would the prisoners make good bargaining chips, but Elite Guard parts could make them enough credits on the black market to retire to a beach island on [[Nebulos]].

[[Image:TFAni Decepticon Air Swindle Optimus Hand.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Oh ''no''. Not ''again''.]]

Unfortunately for the Decepticons, Sentinel Prime had managed to get a [[Broken Lance|coded distress signal]] to Earth. The Earthbound Autobots were able to lock onto Swindle's private [[transwarp]] frequency and beam Optimus Prime right into Swindle's guts, giving them quite a surprise. Ordered by Lugnut to guard the prisoners while the rest chased after Optimus, Swindle instead took his time thoroughly looting the Elite Guard ship of as much valuable hardware as he could before making his getaway in an escape pod. {{storylink|Decepticon Air}}

{{quote|Guard the prisoners, or... loot the ship? It's a no-processor...er.|Swindle shows his true colors|"[[Decepticon Air]]"}}
{{--}}

==Travelogue==
{{quote|Now, at no extra charge, I'm willing to throw in these little items I picked up in a little excursion to the planet Dahros. By the way, if you should ever find yourself on Dahros, trust me, you do not want to visit the Northern hemisphere. The locals are surly, the service is lousy, and the energon is always watered down.|Swindle gives travel advice|"[[Everything Must Go]]"}}

Swindle travels extensively, to provide his customers spectacular bargains from the far corners of the universe. His trade route includes:

*The planet [[Andellor]], who make an excellent [[Anti-gravity gun|anti-gravity cannon]].<ref name="everything">[[Everything Must Go]]</ref>
*[[Cheyne]], builder of fine Circuitry repair patches. <ref name="almanac">[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac|The AllSpark Almanac]]</ref>
*[[Comb|Com]], where the Nemesis Shield type 2B is available.<ref name="almanac"/>
*The planet [[Darhos|Dahros]], which produces the amazing product that is [[glass gas]].<ref name="everything"/>
*[[Devola]], where he purchased escape ships.<ref name="almanac"/>
*[[Ganzvort]], home of the [[Omega bomb]]. He noted that he had to visit Okayama at some point.<ref name="almanac"/>
*[[Garro|Garo]], where [[Nemesis Shield]] type 11A can be purchased.<ref name="almanac"/>
*[[Menonia]], source of the robotic panacea of "[[Menonian super glue|super glue]]".<ref name="everything"/>
*[[Nebulos]], where the energon is exceptionally smooth, and one can retire to live the good life on a tropical island.<ref name = "con air"/>
*[[Nexus Zero]], where the [[Vok]] manufacture superior force-field technology.<ref name="suv">[[SUV: Society of Ultimate Villainy]]</ref>
*[[Quintessa]], where he picked up the fantastic [[Sonic Jammer 3000]] for a great price, as well as all the oil he could drink.<ref name="con air"/>
*[[Prysmos]], a future stop on his itinerary where he will trade with the [[Visionaries|Darkling Lords]].<ref name="almanac"/>
*[[Pz-Zazz]], where he visited the scenic fifth moon.<ref name="con air">[[Decepticon Air]]</ref>
*[[Talos Four]], manufacturers of the [[triple crusher cannon]].<ref name="everything"/>
*The world of [[Torkulon]], source of the spectacular [[Torkulonian decompression pump|decompression pump]].<ref name="everything"/>
*The home of Vandarian holographic technology, which Lockdown finds useful.<ref name="almanac"/>
*[[Xeptos]], the source of [[Chaosmaster Bomb]]s.<ref name="almanac"/>

==Toys==
===Animated===
[[Image:SwindleDeluxe.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"Are you seeing this? Are you loving this? I'm so excited I could almost spring a leak."]]
*'''Swindle''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TA-36'''
**''Accessories'': Large "[[Scatter blaster]]" gun, missile

: Part of the fifth wave of ''Animated'' Deluxes, Swindle transforms into an armored Humvee-styled vehicle with a roof-mounted cannon. This cannon mounts on his right arm in robot mode, and features a spring-loaded launching [[missile]]. The cannon also features an additional [[gimmick]]: when the missile is inserted into the cannon, the slits on the weapon change from a deep, clear purple (the same color used for the eyes, chest windows, upper arms and fingers) to a painted orange-red. He also features a flip-out Gatling gun in his midsection, as well as his twin over-shoulder double-blasters. The Gatling ''can'' be deployed in vehicle mode (and is even depicted on the cardback that way), but it rides so low that the front wheels won't touch the ground. Swindle's cartoon-accurate cat-like pupils are simulated by carefully placed air bubbles within the [[light-piping]] plastic.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/Swindle/swindle.htm More information on Swindle at TFU.info]''
{{-}}

[[Image:AnimatedMercenarySwindle.jpg|thumb| Hi! Swindle here with the new [[Black repaint|Mercenary]] paint scheme. It's sleek, it's stylish, and it can belong to you. Simply order now and receive the special digital [[paint operation|paint app]] for your preferred mobile device!]]
*'''Mercenary Swindle''' (Deluxe)
**''Accessories'': Large "[[Scatter blaster]]" gun, missile

: A redeco of Swindle from tan brown to army green and clear purple to clear red.

{{canceledtoy}}
{{--}}

==Notes==
* Swindle made his appearance because [[Derrick J. Wyatt]] lobbied ''hard'' for him to show up.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/interviews-27/tfw2005-interviews-transformers-animated-story-editor-marty-isenberg-165509/ Interview with story editor Marty Isenberg]</ref>

* Swindle's design is quite heavily influenced by his [[Swindle (G1)|Generation 1 namesake]]'s animation [[character model]], from the "squarehead" with large, purple optics to the windshield-chest with grill-stomach to the right-arm-mounted cannon which can be mounted on the back of his vehicle mode. As a result, Swindle is the first of only [[Wasp|two]] Decepticons to not have red eyes in Animated.

* Swindle is a double-homage, as he also features a chest cannon that is quite similar to his [[Swindle (Movie)|movie namesake]]'s.

* He also makes a reference to ''Binaltech'' Swindle, who possessed a force field because his body was meant to be [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]'s, but couldn't use it. This Swindle doesn't have that issue.

* He has a [[Wikipedia:bolo tie|bolo tie]]. That's awesome.

* Swindle also possesses a chest compartment which is capable of storing many, many things, such as weapons, Seeker accessories, and even an [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|entire Autobot]]. Though, at first glance, this sounds virtually impossible, Swindle explains that he has a transwarp link to his own "personal storage dimension" within this compartment.

* Derrick J. Wyatt has noted that Swindle's mannerisms are based on [[wikipedia:Ron Popeil|Ron Popeil]]. In fact, in "Everything Must Go", Swindle even uses Ron's signature catch-phrase "Now, how much would you pay?", and in "Decepticon Air" he uses Ron's other catchphrase, "But wait, there's more!" (Coincidentally enough, [["Weird Al" Yankovic]] has done a song about Popeil...)

* Despite the two having never been seen together in the show, Swindle is apparently [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]]'s 'agent', by the latter's [[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac|testimony.]]

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Animated Decepticons]]
[[Category:Merchants]]

User talk:71.176.92.19

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==Japanese names==
Hi! Per prior consensus, we're not supposed to be adding foreign names unless they are actually different from the English name. I suppose you could add them in comments so that other editors know that they're the same name and don't need to look for them, but whatever you choose to do, they should not be visible on the public article. Thanks![[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 18:07, 24 August 2012 (EDT)
:No seriously. If the name isn't different, then either leave it commented or ''don't add it''.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 18:22, 24 August 2012 (EDT)

User talk:Abates

2012-08-24T22:14:13Z

192.249.47.177: /* Probably bots */ new section

<div style="float: right; width: 33%">
{{chapters
|title=User talk archives
|content=*[[/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
*[[/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
}}</div>
==To-Do List==
===Operation: Screen Captures===
Screen cap (re)tagging:
*<s>[[:Category:Generation 1 screen captures|G1]]</s>
*<s>[[:Category:The Headmasters screen captures|Headmasters]]</s>/[[:Category:Super-God Masterforce screen captures|Masterforce]]/<s>[[:Category:Victory screen captures|Victory]]</s>/<s>[[:Category:Zone screen captures|Zone]]</s>
*<s>[[:Category:Beast Wars screen captures|Beast Wars]]</s>/<s>[[:Category:Beast Machines screen captures|Beast Machines]]</s>
*<s>[[:Category:Robots in Disguise screen captures|Robots in Disguise]]</s>
*<s>[[:Category:Armada screen captures|Armada]]</s>/[[:Category:Energon screen captures|Energon]]/<s>[[:Category:Cybertron screen captures|Cybertron]]</s>
*<s>[[:Category:Animated screen captures|Animated]]</s>
====Pictures of unidentified origin====
I don't know which episodes these are from - feel free to tag them with {{tl|MFcap}} or {{tl|Energoncap}} if you know!
<gallery>
Image:Diver suiton.jpg|Diver from Masterforce
Image:EnergonGeneric.jpg|Some dude from Energon
</gallery>

==Headmaster episode images==
Hey, did you accidentally skip over "[[The Dormant Volcano Mysteriously Erupts]]"? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 04:34, 10 January 2012 (EST)
:I did watch it. I must have just forgotten to upload some screencaps for that page. I'll pick some out tomorrow! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:12, 10 January 2012 (EST)

==Outside linking==
Abates, how do I tell if an image or redirect has an outside/off-site link pointing to it? I want to delete <nowiki>[[:Image:LiveActionJazz-Skywarp01.jpg|this]]</nowiki>, but it's pretty old, so I don't know if there might be any links to it. (Probably want to keep the talk page, tho.) --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 20:13, 20 January 2012 (EST)
:I used to use Yahoo siteexplorer to find links to pages, but Yahoo shut it down now because they're using Bing's database. Now I generally just google the url or just the article/image name to try and find links to it, which isn't ideal. I can't find any to that particular image, anyway! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:24, 20 January 2012 (EST)

== Daniel ==

Oh my god finally! Do you know how long I've been staring at that Headmasters section, telling myself that I really need to write it up over and over again because no other bastard was ever going to punish themselves that much and yet never being able to will myself into it? AND even though he's in like every damn episode it's still a super-concise write-up that isn't stupid-long and over-detailed like a lot of more recent characters suffer from! My hat, sir! It is off! To you! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:10, 23 January 2012 (EST)
:Thanks! Nice to know I wasn't the only one bugged by that empty cartoon section. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:51, 23 January 2012 (EST)

==A silly favor==
Hey, could you fill out the articles for [[Tlalak]] and [[Brobdingnag]] (plus [[Aagar]] and [[Chief Lanarqan]], I guess)? It's been bugging me that all of the other G1 cartoon planets except those have filled-out articles. I would do it, but I don't really have access to any of the G1 episodes with captions. Sorry if this comes off as too forward! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:21, 20 February 2012 (EST)
:Oh yeah, I can do that! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:31, 20 February 2012 (EST)
::Thank ye! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:04, 20 February 2012 (EST)

== Image ==

excuse me, why did you delete a lot of my image? {{unsigned|Shockwave1704‎}}
:Apparently you did not read your talk page. There are multiple issues with the images you have been uploading and you need to read [[Transformers Wiki:Images|this page here]] which explains that images need to have non-generic names - you uploaded an image called "jolt.jpg", but there are [[Jolt (disambiguation)|six different characters named Jolt]]. You must also provide a proper description and copyright templates for each image. Uploading them with no description is not helpful - you uploaded [[:Image:Thundercracker robot.jpg|this picture of Thundercracker]] without saying which issue it was from or who drew it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:31, 12 March 2012 (EDT)

but you haven't deleted my thundercracker's photo and i wanted to change the name jolt[[user:Shockwave1704]]

i read my talk but the translation in Italian is terrible and i don't understand it[[user:Shockwave1704]]
:I'm sorry I don't speak Italian, and I think you may find it difficult to edit here if you can't understand the rules of the site. Communication is very important on a wiki. :( Normally I hate to refer people to other sites, but have you considered working on the [http://it.transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_Wiki Italian Transformers wiki]? I see it is only very small at the moment and needs a lot of help. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:57, 12 March 2012 (EDT)

Thank you friend. [[user:Shockwave1704]]

can you check if my new page are good?[[user:Shockwave1704]]

[[Renzo Stacchi]]

[[Alessandro Rossi]]

[[Dario Penne]]

there isn't a longarm(dotm) page --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 08:37, 16 March 2012 (EDT)
:Isn't the Dark of the Moon Longarm just [[Longarm (Movie)]]? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:07, 16 March 2012 (EDT)

yes, i've got some photo of IDW transformers longarm, but there is a problem dialogs are in Italian not in English --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 10:20, 16 March 2012 (EDT)

== Did somebody ask for Rescue Bots subtitles? ==

Saw what you said about [[The Natives of Tatui]]. I got all Rescue Bots episodes (as well as all the Prime episodes) recorded thus far, and so I have access to the closed captions. If ya need any help with spellings from either, let me know. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 13:14, 16 March 2012 (EDT)
:Oh, awesome, thanks! Can you check the spelling on [[Edgar Prewett|Edgar Pruitt]]'s last name please? And probably [[Bufkin|Buffkin]]'s name too. They're both from phone calls Chief Burns takes around the middle of the episode. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:21, 16 March 2012 (EDT)
::CCs spell them as "Mr. Bufkin" and "Mrs. Prewett". Other townspeople names from the episode are spelled "Mr. Perkins", "Milo", "Mrs. Niederlander", and "Mr. Pettypaws" (her cat). And, the spelling for device Cody got in the Flobsters episode is "Comtab" (or maybe "ComTab"? It's spelled as one word, but the CC letters are in All Caps, making it difficult to tell what should and shouldn't be capitalized). --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 09:32, 18 March 2012 (EDT)
:::Awesome, thanks! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:09, 18 March 2012 (EDT)

== the heart ==

why is there a heart next to your name it was not there when you put stuff on my page last year {{unsigned|Jacktransformerdude}}
:[[User:Derik|Derik]] decided to mark all the admins by putting hearts next to their names. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:31, 19 March 2012 (EDT)

thanks for telling me that and whats an admin {{unsigned|Jacktransformerdude}}
:Admins are users with extra powers, like being able to delete articles. BTW, when writing messages on talk pages, please use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to sign your messages (There's a button second from the right above the edit window that puts it in for you). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:17, 19 March 2012 (EDT)

[[User:Jacktransformerdude|Jacktransformerdude]] 01:22, 19 March 2012 (EDT)thanks i did not know how to sign now i do

== Transformers 4 ==

michael bay signed a contract to make a transformers 4 he said it will hit theaters june 29 2014 [[User:Jacktransformerdude|Jacktransformerdude]] 01:34, 19 March 2012 (EDT)

should i make a page for it [[User:Jacktransformerdude|Jacktransformerdude]] 01:35, 19 March 2012 (EDT)
: Not until you learn how to format your English properly. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:36, 19 March 2012 (EDT)
::hahaha very funny what do you mean. btw why is the f-bomb on your page? i read you cant put the f-bomb [[User:Jacktransformerdude|Jacktransformerdude]] 01:42, 19 March 2012 (EDT)
:::From the [[Transformers Wiki:Policies]] page: "Language '''always inappropriate''' for articles includes (Includes—but is not limited to!) the [[Wikipedia:fuck|f-bomb]], the [[Wikipedia:cunt|c-bomb]], and their derivatives. The above applies to '''articles only'''. Talk pages, user pages, etc., not being intended for general viewing, have no language restrictions. But please, at least ''try'' to be civil with one another." Note the second sentence. The language guidelines only apply to articles, not user pages or talk pages. Please take note of how I have reformatted your response by adding colons (the : symbol) to produce indentations. The more colons, the more indented the text becomes. Indenting your responses helps us to keep track of the flow of conversation. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:10, 19 March 2012 (EDT)

== Kuruk Hades1995 ==
What in the world of transformers, Abates?! I put that comment on Nemesis Prime (episode) because Miko is the first character ever called the imposter by his name. Why did you remove it? {{unsigned|Kuruk Hades1995‎}}
:Huh? I didn't remove it. Check the page history. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:34, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

== Transformers: Prime episode titles ==
Hey abates, where do you get the episode titles from? -- [[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 20:56, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:I usually say when I add them, but generally from one of the websites which carry TV schedules - msn.com, zap2it.com and tvguide.com mainly. In the case of the last two episodes, they were from zap2it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:02, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

==Robots in Disguise==
Robots in Disguise #4 is rumored to be released on April 29th. {{unsigned|Ed}}
:Uh, OK? We don't use rumours on this wiki. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:10, 16 April 2012 (EDT)
==Life After the Big Bang==
Can you help me get every bot's article page to this issue? Example: First Aid's page does not mention anything about the recent comic issue. {{unsigned|Ed}}
:Sorry, I can't - I don't own any of the issues in question. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:51, 19 April 2012 (EDT)
==Trypticon==
I've got the Nemesis section edited for the Armada episode. Plus, I watched it. Ed

==Present tense==
Ok. I'm trying to work on the tense. {{unsigned|Ed}}

==Google+==
I'd suggest Tfwiki.net gets a Google + account to increase our popularity. Just saying. Ed
:Doesn't Google+ require you to use your real name? I don't think, under those rules, anyone could create an account named "TFWiki.net". --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:44, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
::Not anymore, I don't think. -- [[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 22:30, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
:::You can create a page for the wiki, which is different from a profile, so you don't need a real name. -- [[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 18:18, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
::::Oh, OK. I guess it would still be up to someone with a google+ account to do though. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:34, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
:::::Doing it now. -- [[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 18:49, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
::::::Here it is :) https://plus.google.com/b/106006102124340784739/ -- [[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 20:22, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
:::::::Groovy. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:27, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
::::::::Thank you. Now we need somebody to edit the main page to put the link there with the Facebook and Twitter and whatever the other thing is. -- [[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 20:35, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
:::::::::You probably need to ask [[User:Derik|Derik]] about that. He did the current graphic there. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:55, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
::::::::::Thanks, I will. -- [[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 20:57, 30 April 2012 (EDT)

== Cow & Chicken ==

I had no Idea you remember ''Cow & Chicken'' Was that a favorite of yours?[[User:SirSpoonwave|SirSpoonwave]] 03:50, 24 May 2012 (EDT)
:Sorry, never seen it. I just looked up the quote on IMDB. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:59, 24 May 2012 (EDT)
==Question==
How come tfwiki.net shuts down for long periods of time occasionally. Ed
:It was under heavy load. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:50, 29 May 2012 (EDT)
::Um... what kind? Ed
:::Like lots of people all trying to visit the site at once. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:21, 29 May 2012 (EDT)
::::Sorry for rushing through the articles but nobody seems to want to keep them up to date. Anyway, is Transformers Prime releasing any more episodes? I checked yesterday and they were doing highlights of previous episodes. Ed
:::::No new Prime episodes have appeared on the schedules as of yet. I imagine they'll wait a while so they can build up a buffer and play the rest of the season in one run like they did with the first half. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:44, 3 June 2012 (EDT)

==Merely saying==
How come the IDW sections are usually the least updated? Everything else is updated occasionally like when Transformers Prime releases a new episode, everything is updated instantly the next day but when a new IDW comic comes out, nobody updates everything even within a week? Some articles are still behind. I'm merely asking this and don't mean it in any offensive way. Schools Out! Scream and Shout! Ed
:It's a wiki - people will update it in their own time. I think there aren't as many people reading the IDW comics as there are watching the cartoon too. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:30, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
::Yeah, the Wiki's really more about the quality of information than how quickly it's updated. And considering how arc-y the writing of the ongoings is, often it's better to wait until after an arc is over before adding a summary because what was once believed may not have been as it seems. Life After The Big Bang and How Ratchet Got His Hands Back pretty much demonstrate that. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:01, 7 June 2012 (EDT)

== ''Prime'' game ==
Can [[Transformers Prime: The Game]] get semi-protected? I don't think anybody's done anything bad to it yet, but every other game article I see on here is. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 17:07, 7 June 2012 (EDT)
:We generally only protect them if there's a history of anons vandalising them. I think we can afford to wait and see on that one. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:15, 7 June 2012 (EDT)
::Ok, thanks. :) -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]]

On a different note, how about putting it in the Nav bar? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 14:05, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
:That's something that should probably be discussed on the Community Portal first. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:27, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

When you get a chance, could you get screencaps of [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]], [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]], and [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] from the trailer and upload them? Because my computer takes horrible screenshots. The ones I already uploaded were from Google Images. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 17:00, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
:Sure, I'll give it a try later on. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:55, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
::Thanks. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 17:57, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
:::And I apologize if I seem like I'm getting annoying with this game, but I do have one more question. How do I make a template like <nowiki>{{Primecap}}</nowiki> for it? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 18:00, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
::::Oh, No worries. Your best bet is to copy from another template in [[:Category:Video game screen capture templates]]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:13, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
:::::Is <nowiki>{{PGcap}}</nowiki> a good name? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 18:33, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
::::::Well, if you follow the precedent set by TFATGcap (Transformers Animated The Game) it'd be TFPTGcap, I guess. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:48, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
:::::::Thanks for those screenshots :) -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 12:35, 17 June 2012 (EDT)

== Template:IDWliveactionfilmcover/franchise ==

You didn't look to see what {{tl|IDWliveactionfilmcover/franchise}} ''actually did'' before you made [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Template:IDWliveactionfilmcover/franchise&diff=prev&oldid=721341 this change], did you? This part of the {{tl|IDWliveactionfilmcover}}:
<pre>{{#if:{{{nocategory|}}} ||<includeonly>[[Category:{{#if:{{IDWliveactionfilmcover/franchise|{{{franchise}}}|series={{{series|}}}}}|IDW {{IDWliveactionfilmcover/franchise|{{{franchise}}}|series={{{series|}}}}} comic covers|IDW live-action film series covers}}|{{IDWliveactionfilmcover/seriesname|{{{series}}}}}{{{issueno|}}}{{{cover|}}}]]</includeonly>}}</pre>

...along with a similar bit in {{tl|IDWliveactionfilminterior}}, meant you shunted ALL the images categorised by the template from RotF & DotM from <nowiki>[[Category:IDW (franchise) comic covers/interior images]] into non-existent [[Category:IDW Transformers: (franchise) comic covers/interior images]]</nowiki> categories. I had to introduce another metatemplate ({{tl|IDWliveactionfilmcover/category}} to fix that, which means more to fix when TF4 comes around. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 09:31, 3 July 2012 (EDT)
:Aw, shoot, sorry! I did try to trace what it was doing in the template at the time. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:39, 3 July 2012 (EDT)
::Okay. I just spent a ''lot'' of time a couple of months back trying to sort the tangled mess the IDW covers had got into, and it was annoying to log in for the first time in a while and see that had happened :) - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 20:23, 7 July 2012 (EDT)

== Quotes List ==

Since you enjoy those Quotes from Cow & Chicken, there are happen to be more from what I found.
[http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Cow_and_Chicken]

Enjoy.[[User:SirSpoonwave|SirSpoonwave]] 03:00, 6 July 2012 (EDT)
:Thanks, but I haven't actually seen the show. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:02, 6 July 2012 (EDT)

== Picture Added ==

Thanks for working on the Picture after I uploaded it. So take at it:

[[Image:Toxitron-fpcomic.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Toxitron do anything for woman he no protect!]]

Would you find a page for this picture to go to?[[User:SirSpoonwave|SirSpoonwave]] 13:14, 4 August 2012 (EDT)

:I don't know, the articles for both of those characters are already pretty full with pictures. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:12, 4 August 2012 (EDT)

== Probably bots ==

*[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/212.159.89.127]
*[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/89.77.95.81]
*[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/195.230.167.76]
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Combaticon (WFC)

2012-08-24T22:11:23Z

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{{faction|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Combaticon}}
:''The Combaticons are a [[Decepticon]] [[subgroup]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:Fall-of-cybertron-combaticons.jpg|thumb|350px|We're the most badass badasses ever!]]
The '''Combaticons''' were the subject of [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]]'s first [[combiner]] experiment and form the imposing [[Bruticus (Prime)|Bruticus Maximus]]. They joined the Decepticons in the civil war with the [[Autobot]]s.

*[[Onslaught (WFC)|Onslaught]]
*[[Brawl (WFC)|Brawl]]
*[[Vortex (FOC)|Vortex]]
*[[Swindle (FOC)|Swindle]]
*[[Blast Off (FOC)|Blast Off]]

==Fiction==
===''Exodus''===
The Combaticons were in stasis beneath [[Crystal City]] after the experiment showed the Combaticons were unable to control their combined form. Following the city's destruction by [[Devastator (WFC)|Devastator]], Bruticus was put on the battlefield at [[Praxus]] and [[Kalis]], where he was dismembered by [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]], [[Jazz (WFC)|Jazz]] and [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]], who tore off the head ([[Onslaught (WFC)|Onslaught]]). Regardless, they remained active during the war, spying on the Autobots. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

===''Fall of Cybertron''===
[[Image:FOC-Combaticons.jpg|left|thumb|300px|]]
{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron}}

{{-}}
==Notes==
*Throughout the excerpt of the [[Covenant of Primus]] in the middle of ''Exodus'', [[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]] confuses them with the [[Constructicon (WFC)|Constructicon]]s. Senile old bot. [[Alex Irvine|Or did he?]]

==Toys==
===Generations===
*'''Combaticons''' (5 x Deluxes, 2012)
All of them. They combine. Holy crap.

[[Category:Combaticons| Combaticon (WFC)]]
[[Category:Combiner teams]]
[[Category:Decepticon subgroups]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron subgroups]]

Brawl (WFC)

2012-08-24T22:11:09Z

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{{faction|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Brawl}}
:''Brawl is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:WFC Brawl.jpg|thumb|300px|I carry around these twin cannons on my back... and my default weapon is an assault rifle. Sigh.]]

'''Brawl''' is rage incarnate. It's not that he doesn't love his job -- he does -- it's just that he has so little control over the destruction he brings to the battlefield. His rage is so great, it's been suggested that when he combines with his fellow [[Combaticon (WFC)|Combaticon]]s to form [[Bruticus (Prime)|Bruticus]], it's his rage alone that fuels the titan. But fortunately for Brawl, he has no problem with this. Best to love what you aren't capable of controlling in the first place, eh?

{{bigquote|Real Decepticons roll on treads.|Brawl on car alt-modes.|[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]] }}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Nolan North]]

During the final days of the war, Brawl served aboard a Decepticon starship under [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]], who was seeking the [[Dark Energon]] guarded by the neutral Sky Commander [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]. He was part of the bridge crew, along with [[Barricade (Prime)|Barricade]] as Megatron laid siege to the orbiting station where Starscream hid the supply of Dark Energon. After Megatron gained entry to the station (by ramming his starship into it, no less), Brawl and Barricade then helped Megatron fight his way into the station, past Starscream's soldiers. Starscream's constant taunting irritated Brawl, to the point he requested permission to rip off Starscream's head. He even said please. The Decepticons eventually reached the supply of Dark Energon and prevented Starscream from destroying it, and as his reward, Brawl was infused with the corrupted Energon's power by Megatron.

[[Image:WFC-Brawlhammer.jpg|left|thumb|300px|]]

Later, during the Decepticon assault on the Autobot capital of Iacon, Brawl had the honour of commanding and spearheading the ground attack while Starscream (his head sadly still attached) commanded the aerial forces and Megatron personally led a small strikeforce into the heart of the city. Megatron's team eventually reunited with Brawl and his forces outside the Iacon Vaults, where Autobot leader [[Sentinel Zeta Prime]] had taken refuge. Despite being heavily out-numbered (and being dogpiled by numerous Autobots), Brawl held out until Megatron, [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] and [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] arrived to assist. Brawl complained about Starscream's refusal to give his ground troops air support, but Megatron wasn't interested in excuses.

When even Megatron's Dark Energon powers failed to open the massive doors to the Vaults, the enraged Decepticon ordered a bombing run. Brawl attempted to protest, since the Autobots' anti-aircraft defenses were still active, but Megatron would not be convinced. After the bombing attempt failed miserably, Brawl tactfully suggested they first take the anti-aircraft guns in order to guarantee success. Megatron noted this was 'an excellent suggestion' and commanded him to see to it.

[[Image:WFC-Brawlvehicle.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]

The Decepticons successfully disabled the anti-aircraft guns and Brawl once again called down a bombing run, only to be bluntly refused by Starscream. Taking issue with Starscream referring to the bombers as 'his ships', Megatron cut in and ensured the bombing run would take place. However, Brawl and his comrades now had to hold off a massive Autobot counterattack until the bombers arrived. Despite fighting and killing numerous Autobots (including several Heavy Soldiers and Aerialbots), it seemed as though the Decepticons would be overwhelmed by nothing less than the entire Autobot army. Brawl, keeping track of the bombers' progress, started counting down the last few seconds verbally, and the Decepticons watched as the Autobots realized their doom, too late to retreat to safety. Megatron ordered Brawl to hold his position while he led his team to 'discuss' matters with Zeta Prime.

Brawl followed his orders to hold his ground to the letter. In fact, while Megatron, Breakdown and Soundwave were being attacked by [[Destroyer (WFC)|a huge Autobot]], Brawl watched, no doubt confident that his master would be victorious.

He probably wasn't too happy when Starscream claimed leadership when Megatron was apparently killed by a [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|huge heavily-armed ship]]. That was fixed soon enough, though.

Brawl then journeyed with Megatron and the rest of the Decepticons to Cybertron's core, watching as Megatron corrupted the core and cowered from falling debris.{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron - Decepticon'' (DS)===
Brawl, Megatron, and Dirge captured an Autobot training facility during the waning days of the Great War. He later accompanied Megatron during the capture of Trypticon Space Station - a station which could manufacture Dark Energon. After a field test, the Dark Energon enhanced the Decepticons' stamina and strength. However, the Decepticons had to journey to Cybertron's core to get the fuel to make more Dark Energon. Brawl helped in an all-out assault on Iacon City to find the Omega Key, the key to Cybertron's core - but upon taking it from Zeta Prime, it activated the titanic Autobot Omega Supreme, who quickly decimated the Decepticons. Brawl followed his leader, and defeated Omega Supreme, gaining total supremacy over Cybertron.

Later, the Autobots, with their new leader Optimus Prime, came to the Core to flush out the Dark Energon. Brawl had been lying in wait for such an attack, and unleashed his full power upon them. But the Autobots defeated Brawl, and the Decepticon retreated. {{Storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)}}

===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Nolan North]]

Brawl joined the Combaticons in the closing battles of the Great War. He along with the rest of the Combaticons joined forces with Starscream to assault an Autobot tanker, loaded with Energon the Autobots had managed to steal from the Decepticons. Onslaught's plan called for the team to split up, as Swindle eliminated enemy scouts, Blastoff and Vortex would clear a path for Brawl to arrive on a transport and destroy the supports to the bridge the tanker was headed for, diverting it into an ambush led by Starscream.
{{comingsoon}}
{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron}}

==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-Brawl.jpg|right|thumb|300px|I'm not [[neon]]...]]
*'''Decepticon Bruticus''' (multi-pack, 2012)
:*''Accessory:'' rifle
: This [[San Diego Comic-Con 2012]] [[exclusive]] pack contains all five Combaticons in game-accurate colors.

: This toy was "redecoed" into its own mass-release deco, below, as well as into a ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]''-styled [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]]. It was later [[retool]]ed into [[Twintwist]].
{{-}}

{{anchor|Retail}}
[[Image:Generationstoy-RetailBrawl.jpg|thumb|300px|... but I am!]]
*'''Decepticon Brawl''' (Deluxe, 2012)
:*''Accessory:'' rifle
: Decepticon Brawl transforms from a green Cybertronic tank to a robot. He combines with his fellow Combaticons to form any of the four limbs of [[Bruticus (Prime)|Bruticus]], though his default configuration is the left leg. (The instructions only detail how to transform him into a leg mode. The arm mode has been extrapolated from official images of [[Ruination (Generations)|Ruination]].) Brawl can be used as either a right or left arm depending on which of his robot mode feet is deployed to act as a thumb for the super robot fist. His rifle can be held in his hand in robot mode or attached to his turret in tank mode.
{{comingsoontoy}}
{{-}}

==Notes==
*Despite his [[Brawl (G1)|Generation 1 counterpart]] being nothing more than a battle-hungry bundle of rage and his [[Brawl (Movie)|live-action movie counterpart]] being a heavily-armed, battle-hungry bundle of rage (both being shock-troops to be unleashed on the enemy), this Brawl is intelligent enough to act as overall ground commander. He even makes a calm, well-thought out suggestion during the Iacon battle, advising Megatron to disable the anti-aircraft guns.
*While his tank mode, colouring and lust for battle are Brawl, his intelligence, strategic outlook and command ability are more in line with the Combaticon commander [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]]. The twin barrels on his back also harken back to his old boss, as the original Brawl only had one barrel.


[[Category:Combaticons]]
[[Category:Generations]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]
[[Category:Fall of Cybertron Decepticons]]

Megatron (WFC)

2012-08-24T22:11:00Z

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{{faction|decepticon|hofsilver}}
{{disambig3|Megatron}}
:''Megatron is the [[Decepticon]] leader from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:PrimeMegatron.jpg|thumb|400px|"What happened to my [[fusion cannon]]?"]]
The awesomely powerful '''Megatron''' is, in many ways, a fallen hero. He rose up from the oppressed lower working castes of [[Kaon]] to become a champion in the region's illegal [[gladiatorial combat|deathmatches]], cast aside his designation of '''D-16''' and took the legendary name '''[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]'''<ref>Megatron was an abbreviation, so it'd be easier for the masses to chant his name; ''Transformers: Exodus'', Chapter 3</ref> as his own, he called for an end to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s decrepit [[caste system]] and told the downtrodden that freedom of self-determination was the right of all sentient beings!

But absolute power corrupts absolutely, and Megatron's Decepticon revolution, like many such movements, ended up becoming a whole new tyranny. Powerful, charismatic, violent, and full of rage for any who would stand in the way of his ambition and drive, Megatron brought Cybertron ''past'' the brink of destruction. Now he and his former brother-in-arms [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] fight on other worlds. Megatron will never forgive Optimus for "betraying" him, stealing from the Council the rank of Prime which was rightfully his. He has reserved for his old friend the greatest honor possible: glorious death at his hands.

Megatron has been gone for three years, but now he's returned. He's brought the monstrous [[Dark Energon]] to Earth, and quite possibly left his sanity in space.

{{quote|I... am the Dominator, I... am the Destroyer, I am '''Megatron!'''|Megatron|''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]]''}}

==Fiction==
===Aligned novels===
[[Image:WFCcomicD16.jpg|thumb|left|250px|"Alright! What's the square root of pi?! What's the capital of Sierre Leone?! What's... awww, this 'ask questions later' thing doesn't work at ''all''."]]
Megatron nicknamed himself D-16 after the sector of the mine where he performed demolition operations. As a gladiator, in killing others he began to appreciate the value of life, and in between matches he became something of an intellectual, debating the castes with other miners. After bosses requested he lose a few fights, D-16 killed them and took over Kaon and [[Slaughter City]]. After murdering one boss in front of his employees, D-16 declared himself Megatronus, whom he considered the greatest of the [[Thirteen]]. After hearing his preaching on the [[Communication Grid]] against the [[Guilds of Cybertron]], the concerned [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]] sent [[Bumper (WFC)|Bumper]] and [[Fastback (WFC)|Fastback]] to investigate. Megatronus killed them, believing two lives were worthless compared to the millions doomed by the castes Sentinel created.

After a victorious battle with the [[Insecticon (Prime)|Insecticon]]s, in which the crowd redubbed him Megatron, the gladiator was contacted by the [[Iacon (polity)|Iaconian]] [[Hall of Records|records monitor]] [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]], and they began exchanging their ideas in intense but friendly philosophical discussions. Megatron encouraged Orion to learn self defense and invited him to visit Kaon, which he did to a warm welcome from Megatron (and from none of his gladiators). By this point Megatron was planning to call his movement the Decepticons, and he had begun sending his followers on a search for artifacts of the Primes, as their discovery would be signs their cause was just. His followers began bombing Cybertron, and Megatron distanced himself from their extremism to gain credibility. Orion and his mentor [[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]] believed him, but the latter was well aware Megatron might have gained a taste for violence after the attention it earned him. Soon enough, Megatron accepted the gift of a kidnapped Sentinel Prime from [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]].

[[Image:WFCcomicHalogendies.jpg|thumb|250px|]]

Alpha Trion organized a hearing for Orion and Megatron with the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]]. They protested involvement in Sentinel's disappearance. When confronted with the phrase "Decepticon", Megatron denied any knowledge of it but accepted his followers' term wholeheartedly, stating deception was necessary sometimes for the corrupt to see the truth. When [[Halogen (WFC)|Halogen]] revealed Megatron's followers had been trying to locate the [[Matrix of Leadership]], he declared that Orion should become the Prime that he desperately wanted to lead Cybertron into the new [[Golden Age]], and find it. Incensed, Megatron killed Halogen, and when Optimus prevented the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]] from attacking Megatron, the ungrateful gladiator declared Optimus had fallen into the trap of power the High Council had given him. He declared Optimus was no longer his brother (though he would continue to refer to him as such privately), and that the Matrix would be his.

In the subsequent war with Optimus' [[Autobot]]s, the Decepticons took control of eighty-five percent of the planet. Wherever Starscream's [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] aided, they were victorious. Megatron was initially merciful to neutrals, but he let Shockwave take control of [[Tarn]] and torture Autobot sympathizers there. When the [[Praxus|Praxians]], a progressive city-state who were disappointed with the direction Megatron took, allied with the Autobots, Megatron decided he would no longer try to convert followers and launched the first genocide of the war, slaughtering all in [[Nova Cronum]] who would not submit to the Decepticons as they attacked.

As the war dragged into a siege of Iacon, Soundwave's spying bore fruit as he discovered [[Dark Energon]], the essence of [[Unicron]], was aboard [[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon]]. Megatron forgave Starscream for hiding its existence from him, acknowledging its potentially dangerous nature. To ensure loyalty, Megatron's gladiators stormed the Station slaughtering and maiming Starscream's scientists. He forced Starscream to pick two test subjects to be Darkened, and following an astonishingly successful result, Megatron absorbed some, invigorating him. Soon Darkened Decepticons appeared on the battlefield, but it proved to be an inefficient resource and they would have to flee if a battle was prolonged. Megatron needed more, and even Starscream's activation of the [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge]] didn't provide enough. Megatron felt he would kill all the Decepticons before he was deprived of Dark Energon and turn rabid.

Fortunately, Soundwave revealed the existence of the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]] within [[Teletraan-1]], which required the [[Code Key]]s of Power and Justice to activate it. Starscream recovered the Key of Power, while Megatron and his best soldiers searched for the Key of Justice below the [[High Council Tower]]. Sentinel Prime emerged, to Megatron's surprise. Sentinel confronted him about Bumper and Fastback, and the two dueled. Megatron disarmed and sliced open Sentinel, revealing the Key of Justice within. Starscream made a grab for it, exposing that he had released Sentinel to kill Megatron and take leadership for himself. After fighting Starscream to a standstill, Megatron pardoned him as he found him a better soldier than would-be example, and used the Keys to open Teletraan-1: which activated [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]] to fly the Chamber to safety.

The Seekers shot Omega Supreme out of the air, causing him to crash. Optimus's Autobots arrived to fight the Decepticons, but the more they killed them the more Dark Energon left their bodies and empowered Megatron. He was able to knee Omega Supreme and turn him on his back, tearing the Chamber out of his chest. Using the Chamber, Megatron poisoned the [[core]] of Cybertron and Darkened the entire planet. But then the core stopped producing Dark Energon, and Megatron learnt Optimus had gone to the core and received the Matrix. As the Autobots attempted to flee Cybertron via the last [[space bridge]], Megatron used Trypticon to fire on their ships, and used his and Orion's old frequency to criticize Optimus for fleeing. He added he never believed in individual freedom for every Cybertronian, only the illusion of freedom that he as leader would provide and that the Guilds did not. Optimus responded that Megatron had turned his soldiers into addicts and they would turn on him, and used the ''[[Eight Track (WFC)|Eight Track]]'' to board, sabotage and crash Trypticon.

As the Autobots left on the completed ''[[Ark (WFC)|Ark]]'', the Decepticons fully invaded Iacon. Megatron ordered Trypticon to transform into the ''Nemesis'', boarding it with Starscream, Soundwave, [[Lugnut (WFC)|Lugnut]] and other elite soldiers, leaving Shockwave in charge. He used his old frequency once again to warn Optimus that he would hound him through the stars and finally kill him for the Matrix. He explained they were still brothers, as they were bonded for life despite their enmity. Optimus was just glad his hunt would get him off Cybertron. The two ships entered the last [[space bridge]] together, and when the ''Ark'' emerged, the ''Nemesis'' was gone. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

{{charstubfiction}}
{{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

===''Prime'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Frank Welker]] (English)|[[Keiji Fujiwara]] (Japanese), [[Sean Long]] (BotCon 2011), [[Juan Carlos Lozano]] (Spain-Spanish), [[Ja-hyeong Gu]] (Korean), [[Tony Fuochi|Antonio Fuochi]] (Italian), [[Hans-Jürgen Wolf]] (German), [[Gerardo Vásquez]] (Latin American Spanish), [[Antônio Moreno]] (Brazilian Portuguese), [[Paweł Szczesny]] (Polish)}}

[[Image:OneShallRise3-corresponding.jpg|right|thumb|300px|"I'm a fox!" "I'm a hound doooog!"]]

In the waning years of the [[Golden Age]] of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Megatronus (who named himself after [[The Fallen|one of the original thirteen Primes]]) was a gladiator who fought in the [[Kaon]] arena. Observing a disparity in freedom among the classes of his race, and that the ruling class was corrupt and all-powerful, Megatron turned rhetorician, trying to effect change. In drawing attention to this inequity, he inspired a [[Hall of Records]] clerk named [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]], and the two joined forces to end corruption and bring equality to the masses. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}} Orion and Megatronus became close allies, almost like brothers. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

[[Image:DarknessRising2-Megsflashback.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Things were very red in those days.]]

Megatronus shortened his name to Megatron before he and Orion Pax appeared before the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]]. Megatron threatened the council, promising to overthrow them and instate himself as the next [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]—a declaration of hostility that shocked Orion, and moved him to an impassioned speech in favour of autonomy that successfully swayed the council where Megatron had failed. Jealous, Megatron left the council and Orion behind and assembled his followers—including perennial loyalist [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] and scheming second-in-command [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]—into an army he would name "Decepticons", beginning the war for Cybertron and vowing to find the [[Matrix of Leadership]] which was denied to him by the council. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}

The war saw Megatron successfully take the city of [[Kaon]], which contained the very arena he fought in as a gladiator, as the Decepticon capital. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 1}} During a battle at [[Tyger Pax]], Megatron crushed the Autobot [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]]'s voice box when the scout refused to break under interrogation. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 1}} Furthermore, Megatron's wartime achievements were not limited to those achieved through might: he also created the deadly [[cybonic plague]] which wiped out millions {{storylink|Sick Mind}} and found a way to weaponize [[Tox-En]] which he used to wipe out an entire unit in front of a horrified Bulkhead. {{storylink|Toxicity}} It was through similarly poisonous means that Megatron came closest to seizing victory in the war's final stages, [[Dark Energon|infecting]] the [[Core]] of Cybertron itself. In purifying the core, Orion was granted the Matrix Megatron had long-sought, becoming Optimus Prime. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}} After his assassin [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]] failed to kill Optimus at the [[Battle of Technahar]], {{storylink|Masters & Students}} Megatron became obsessed with the Autobot leader and decided that destroying him was his right alone. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 4}}

[[Image:DarknessRising2-MegatronDarkEnergon.jpg|right|thumb|250px|We can relate. We're just like this with our [[BotCon]] toys.]]

Eventually, the war left Cybertron in ruin and forced the whole Transformer race to exile into space. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 2}} Megatron would not leave the planet unguarded and placed a few [[Insecticon (Prime)|Insecticon]] guards in stasis on the planet, should the enemy return. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 3}} In time, Megatron and his army arrived on Earth, establishing mines to collect the Energon that the planet had been seeded with during the war. {{storylink|Stronger, Faster}} He also had some of his best warriors, such as Skyquake to guard deposits either not ready to mine {{storylink|Masters & Students}}. After some early conflicts on the planet, Megatron withdrew to space to search for more troops, leaving Starscream in charge. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 1}} Searching the void for three years, Megatron found something better than mere warriors: he discovered a new source of Dark Energon, the "blood of [[Unicron]]", with which he could reanimate fallen Transformers as an army of the undead. Returning to Earth and resuming command of the Decepticons, Megatron tested the Dark Energon on the deceased Autobot [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]], reviving him as a [[zombie]] "[[Terrorcon (Prime)|Terrorcon]]" that slaughtered several [[Decepticon Miner]]s, but which posed no threat to Megatron himself. Unfortunately for Megatron, this partial reactivation of Cliffjumper's lifesigns drew Optimus Prime's Autobots to the Decepticons' mining operations. Deciding it was not yet time for a confrontation with Prime, Megatron withdrew aboard the [[Trypticon (Prime)|''Nemesis'']] and continued to brood over the Dark Energon.

[[Image:darknessrising3_Megatronglowy.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Megatron, you fool! Rave glowsticks aren't candy!]]
Megatron's inability to control the zombie Cliffjumper convinced him that he needed to integrate the Dark Energon into his own body in order to control the undead legions he planned to create. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 2}} Thrusting a shard of the material into his spark, he was filled with its power, feeling as though he was connected to Unicron's very thoughts. Requiring a test run for his new power, Megatron headed to the site of an ancient Cybertronian battle on Earth, one full of the remains of fallen warriors, where he was confronted by Optimus and [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]]. Using Dark Energon to raise the dead Transformers as Terrorcons, Megatron successfully found he had complete control of the undead horde, and send them against the two Autobots. [[Image:DarknessRising4-Megatron.jpg|right|thumb|250px|I chew scenery while the zombies chew ''you''.]] {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 3}} While Optimus and Ratchet fought their way through the Terrorcons, Megatron flew off before they could reach him, satisfied with his test results and ready put his plan into action—to open a [[space bridge]] to Cybertron and use Dark Energon to revive all the dead. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 4}} Despite the Autobots' best efforts to damage the ''Nemesis'' and prevent the bridge from opening, Megatron succeeded in his plans, and then had his showdown with Optimus Prime atop the bridge itself as he waited for the Terrorcon legions to pass through to Earth. While the two old foes battled, the other Autobots sabotaged the bridge, causing it to explode and destroy both the Terrorcon army and seemingly Megatron himself. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 5}}[[Image:Masters&Students-Megatronstasis.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Well, it's better than just [[Megatron (Animated)|being a head]] I suppose.]]

The Autobots were not so lucky, however: the Dark Energon in his spark allowed Megatron to survive the explosion, but just barely. When Starscream found his leader floating in space, he tore the Dark Energon from his body in the hope that he would expire, but was caught in the act by [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]]'s [[Deployer (Prime)|Deployer]], [[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]], and forced to take Megatron back to the ''Nemesis'', where he was placed in [[Stasis lock|stasis]] in the sick bay. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

Starscream was content to leave Megatron in this state to recover or expire as fate saw fit, but the crew of the ''Nemesis'' disagreed, and voted to bring in the Decepticon medic [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] to help heal their wounded leader. But the discovery of an [[Energon Harvester]] forced them to push off Megatron's recovery.{{storylink|Deus ex Machina}} Even with Knock Out's expertise, it seemed unlikely that Megatron would recover, but his assistant [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] gave his body a good buffing nonetheless, and Starscream approved, as it meant their ex-leader would look his best for the memorial service. {{storylink|Speed Metal}}

[[Image:SickMind megs and bee.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Hey, [[Megatron (Animated)|you]] really ''are'' [[Transform and Roll Out|uglier from this angle]]!]]

When Optimus Prime was infected by cybonic plague, Arcee and [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] boarded the ''Nemesis'' to search for an antidote. While they failed to find one in the database, the two Autobots did discover Megatron in stasis, and Bumblebee mind-linked with the Decepticon leader via a [[cortical psychic patch]] to try and pluck the cure from his sleeping brain. Bumblebee found himself within Megatron's mind, which took the form of [[Kaon]], where the Decepticon's subconscious was spending its time killing endless visions of Optimus Primes. Unfortunately, Bumblebee's intrusion only caused Megatron to become aware of his situation when he found he was unable to kill Bumblebee. Learning what had befallen Optimus, Megatron initially refused to give up the cure until Bumblebee convinced him that he would gain greater satisfaction from finishing his enemy off with his own two hands. Megatron offered the cure in exchange for Bumblebee's help in escaping his mental prison, but Bumblebee double-crossed him, withdrawing from his mind as soon as the cure was in Autobot hands. At the last moment, Megatron was able to effect his own escape, leaping into Bumblebee's mind along with him. {{storylink|Sick Mind}} [[Image:OutofhisHead megatron revived.jpg|left|thumb|250px|IT'S... AAALLLLLIIIIIIIIVE!]] Recalling the sliver of Dark Energon Starscream had removed from his body, Megatron took full control of Bumblebee's body a short time later and used the GroundBridge to return to the ancient battlefield where he had raised his original Terrorcons, recovering the Dark Energon shard he had used to do so. He returned to the [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|Autobot base]], where he dealt with Ratchet and [[Raf Esquivel|Raf]] before again GroundBridging to the ''Nemesis'' and using the Dark Energon to restore his body and return his mind to it. Storming out of the ''Nemesis'' to find Starscream, Megatron snatched his subordinate out of the air in the middle of a battle with Optimus Prime and took him back for his punishment. {{storylink|Out of His Head}}

[[Image:Shadowzone-MegsStarscream.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Lulz.]]
Despite his treason, Megatron decided not to terminate Starscream, viewing him as no real threat and taking perverse amusement in his repeated failures. {{storylink|Rock Bottom}} Instead, Megatron proceeded to beat Starscream only to ''near'' death, then had him placed in the infirmary, occasionally visiting to gloat. {{storylink|Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone}}

When Breakdown was captured by the humans of [[MECH]], Megatron refuted Starscream's suggestion that they rescue him, announcing that if Breakdown had allowed himself to be captured by those weaker than him, then he deserved whatever he got. {{storylink|Operation: Breakdown}} Breakdown did manage to escape, however, and in his wounded pride, volunteered to recover a [[polarity gauntlet]] for Megatron in order to prove his worth. Megatron was disappointed when his minion returned without the gauntlet, but was placated with the revelation that he had instead brought back [[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]]. {{storylink|Metal Attraction}}

[[Image:RockBottom-Starscreamprays.jpg|thumb|250px|left]]
Discovering that Starscream was still attempting to mine energon for his personal use without his knowledge, Megatron determined that the amusement had come to an end. Taking him to the mine in question, Megatron revealed that he had been aware of Starscream's previous transgressions the whole time thanks to Soundwave, and was about to execute his grovelling lieutenant when [[Jack Darby]] and [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] walked in. In the firefight that followed, stray shots from Megatron's fusion cannon brought the mine down on top of them all, with Megatron being completely pinned by rubble. Jack happened upon the Decepticon leader with a mining drill, and Megatron, knowing that the human would not help him, instead urged Jack to finish him off. Jack refused, saying that wasn't what Optimus would do, and left, but the opening he had created allowed Megatron to begin his escape. After finally extricating himself, Megatron came upon Starscream trying to keep a large rock from crushing him. Starscream insisted that he had come to rescue Megatron, and begged the Decepticon leader to spare him, and Megatron acquiesced with a smirk. {{storylink|Rock Bottom}}

Though Megatron allowed Starscream to live and continue as his second-in-command, he was furious to learn from Airachnid that Starscream had kept the location of the ''[[Harbinger]]'' from him. He ordered Starscream to lead Airachnid to the crash site and retrieve an [[Immobilizer|experimental weapon]] that was inside. Much to Megatron's fury, Airachnid returned not only without the weapon, but with the news that Starscream had been captured by the Autobots as well. {{storylink|Partners}}

[[Image:StrongerFaster-KnockOutMegatronRatchet.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"Steroids?" "Yup." "Ah."]]
When a formula for [[Synthetic Energon]] was transferred from a [[Cybertronian data cylinder]] into the mind of the Autobot [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]], Optimus Prime petitioned Megatron for the return of the cylinder so they could extract the formula, after which they would willingly hand it over. Megatron briefly considered the proposal, but instead sent Knock Out and Breakdown to capture Bulkhead and dared Prime to fight for the cylinder. When his Vehicon troops were defeated, Megatron simply crushed the device and took flight. {{storylink|T.M.I.}} The synthetic energon formula helped the Autobots counter Megatron's next tactic: causing the Autobots to burn through their energon supplies at an accelerated rate by leading them on wild goose chases. Juiced up on the "SynthEn", Ratchet attacked Megatron and Knock Out while they were surveying an energon mine, and sent the Decepticon leader flying with one punch. Unfortunately for Ratchet, Megatron swiftly recovered and subdued the Autobot medic with ease. {{storylink|Stronger, Faster}}

[[Image:PrimeEp23-Megatronjetmode.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Hold still, jet mode, so we can screencap you, dammit!]]
Convinced by Dark Energon-induced visions that an impending prophecy detailed his own destiny, Megatron stepped up the Decepticons' work in constructing a new space bridge so they could obtain more Dark Energon. When they located the last component they needed, Megatron went in personally, grievously wounding Raf with a blast of Dark Energon on the way and creating an unintended distraction that allowed him to make off with the power source he needed. Soon after, Megatron lured Optimus Prime to a volcano he had seen in his visions, and during their battle, it erupted with Dark Energon, imbuing Megatron with the power he needed to fell Prime. {{storylink|One Shall Fall}} [[Image:OneShallFall-visionfulfilled.jpg|thumb|255px|right|Look, Prime! Look at the fireworks! Aren't they splendid?!]] The intervention of the other Autobots saved Prime's life, but this was of little concern to Megatron, who now had all the Dark Energon he needed and set his miners to work gathering it up. When Soundwave detected a spark-beat coming from within the Earth, Megatron felt it pounding through his brain and realized what his visions had meant: the lifeforce of Unicron himself dwelt within Earth. Leaving Airachnid in command, Megatron flew into the volcano to address Unicron, but did not receive the power he had hoped the chaos-bringer would bestow on him, instead receiving Unicron's displeasure at the fact that Optimus Prime still lived. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

Spurned, Megatron instead went to the aid of Optimus and his Autobots, who were under attack from Unicron's stone avatars. He offered Optimus his services—he intended to lead them to Unicron's real form so that Optimus could use the [[Matrix of Leadership]] on the Chaos God. While the Autobots returned to base, Megatron kept the giant stone Unicrons busy, and Prime eventually accepted Megatron's offer. On arrival in the Autobot base, Megatron encountered a couple of humans he recognized, Raf and Jack, as well as a [[Miko Nakadai|new loud one]]. Megatron was first to step through the GroundBridge into the Earth's core, and as the Autobots followed, he warned them that Unicron already knew they were there. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 2}}

[[Image:OneShallRise3-together.jpg|thumb|255px|left|"Just this once, we work together! Mortal enemies working together for the common good!" "Be quiet!"]]
Despite the persistent influence of Unicron, Megatron led the Autobots through Unicron's insides, even helping them fight off [[Unicron's antibodies|antibodies]]. The Dark Energon he was imbued with allowed him to enter Unicron's spark chamber with Optimus, though at that point Unicron's influence became so great that the Chaos God was able to commandeer his body. After Optimus unleashed the power of the Matrix, apparently extinguishing Unicron's spark, Megatron went to kill Optimus, only to discover his foe had lost his memory and now believed himself to be Orion Pax. Megatron convinced Optimus that the other Autobots were enemies, and the pair returned to the ''Nemesis'', where Megatron introduced "Orion Pax" to his men. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}

[[Image:Orion-Pax-Part-1-OP-Megatron.jpg|thumb|250px|right]]
Megatron wasted no time in spinning a tale of Autobot warlord Ratchet and the destruction of Cybertron, and put Orion Pax to work decoding data from the [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] archives for a [[Project Iacon|project]] of the same name. Though aware that at some point Orion would find out the truth, Megatron made all precautions to make sure that didn't happen before Orion finished his work. Knock Out was ordered to set up Orion's work station a mere few inches away from the Energon storage vault.

During Orion's decoding, the archivist noted several references to Starscream as being Megatron's second in command. As part of his deception, Megatron claimed Starscream to be dead, and ordered Soundwave to carefully remove Arcee from the ship with a GroundBridge. Arachnid offered to destroy the bike bot herself, but Megatron feared that Orion would become weary of their activity's should he bare witness to an Autobot's destruction. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 1}} Megatron attempted to cover for a surprise visit by Starscream when he managed to sneak aboard the ship. Orion asked why Megatron lied, but the con leader stated that Starscream as "dead" to their cause for joining the Autobots. However, Starscream's visit caused Orion to uncover the truth and find out that he was, in fact, Optimus Prime, the so called leader of the Autobot "invaders". Soundwave notified Megatron of Orion finding information on Optimus Prime, and Megatron realized that harsher methods would be necessary to complete [[Project Iacon]]. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 2}}

[[Image:OrionPax3 Megatron threatens Orion.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Do you see what's in your teeth ''NOW''?!]]
Megatron payed Orion a visit to expose Orion's findings. Orion demanded to know the full truth, but Megatron refused, causing Orion to delete his findings. Fortunately, Soundwave had recorded his findings, and the data was saved. Soundwave also informed Megatron of the activity at the space bridge and went there to find that the Autobots had taken control of it, and that one of their [[Insecticon (Prime)|traps]] on Cybertron was activated. Megatron ordered the guards to watch Orion while he went out and threatened to kill the archivist if he had not completed the project. Megatron realized that the Autobots must have been searching for a way to restore Orion to Optimus. Megatron arrived at the space bridge and defeated the trio of Autobots present, and waited for Arcee to return from the open space bridge with the Matrix in her possession. When Orion had overpowered his guards and came to attack Megatron, Orion declared his loyalty to the Autobots, pulled out his blades, and attacked Megatron. The amnesiac Autobot was no match for him. While the Decepticon leader was subsequently kept busy by Arcee, Jack returned the Matrix to Orion, who regained his memory and left with the Autobots, leaving Megatron screaming furiously at his failure. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 3}}

[[Image:OperationBumblebee1 spark extractor.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Now ''I'' have [[The Touch]].]]
Following the first of the artifact coordinates left by Orion, Megatron and his men unearthed the [[spark extractor|Spark Extractor]]. While Megatron was bringing it back through the GroundBridge, it was taken from him by Bumblebee. He then ordered Knock Out and Breakdown to retrieve another artifact before Bulkhead and Bumblebee did. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 1}} Megatron was pleased when Knock Out returned with a force field generator, quickly demonstrating the object's power with a cannon-blast. Megatron himself joined the mission to get the third artifact, and managed to secure the [[Forge of Solus Prime]] by holding a prone Bulkhead hostage. Unfortunately, he discovered that the Forge wouldn't work without the power of a Prime behind it. {{Storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 2}}

When [[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]] arrived on Earth, Megatron filled him in on what had happened to his brother Skyquake, but warned him not to seek revenge on his own. When Dreadwing did anyway, Megatron figured that would be the last they saw of him, although he was glad that Dreadwing both survived and learned his lesson. {{storylink|Loose Cannons}}

[[Image:Crossfire Megatron and Insecticon close together.jpg|thumb|left|250px]]
Reminded of Airachnid's past treachery, Megatron tasked Dreadwing with ridding them of her. Dreadwing not only failed, but returned minus Breakdown, much to Megatron's disgust. Megatron responded to Airachnid's later communication by attempting to get rid of her himself. Although she set an [[Insecticon (Prime)|Insecticon]] on him, the mighty Megatron eventually prevailed against it. The fight took all of his strength, and he was subsequently surrounded by Autobots. With Dreadwing's help, he escaped and made Dreadwing his new [[second-in-command]]. {{storylink|Crossfire}}

Megatron responded to reports of Starscream on the ship and found not one but four [[Starscream clone (Prime)|Starscreams]] on the bridge. After attempting to appeal to their treacherous nature, he took advantage of a diversion to offline three of them before the fourth escaped. The diversion turned out to be a mass Insecticon attack, but after a fight, the Insecticons suddenly stopped and announced they were loyal to him. Then the ''Nemesis'' crashed. {{storylink|Armada (episode)|Armada}} Megatron got the ship moving again using Dark Energon, but when it exhibited its own intelligence and refused to follow his orders, he tried to shut it down, only to be put into stasis lock. He only awoke when the kids reversed the energon flow. {{storylink|Flying Mind}}

As Knock Out prepared to go and try to find the first of the four relics which the ship had found the location of, Megatron instructed him to take an Insecticon as muscle. {{storylink|Tunnel Vision}} Megatron then sent Dreadwing to [[Antarctica]] to find the relic there {{storylink|Triangulation}} and then sent [[Hardshell]] and three other Insecticons to a volcanic area at the equator, {{storylink|Toxicity}} before sending Soundwave to find the last relic.

He was impressed with the [[Resonance Blaster]] Soundwave found, but less so with Dreadwing and Knock Out, the latter of whom returned looking like he'd been run over by a train. After they found a grenade implanted in Laserbeak, Megatron set Soundwave back to work decoding the Iacon database. {{storylink|Triage}}

===Commercial appearances===
{{voiceactor|[[Frank Welker]] (English)}}

Megatron, [[wikipedia:Dan Vs.|Dan]] and [[My Little Pony|Pinkie Pie]], a pony, sang a collaborative group song while the scene quickly shifted between a variety of strange alternate universes. {{storylink|Commercial/Prime|The Hub summer promo 2011}}
{{quote|Are you ready for the summer? Are you ready for the hot <strike> nuts</strike> nights?|Megatron}}

At some point he ended up in detention at a school because he had "anger issues". {{storylink|Commercial/Prime|The Hub promo}}

He later joined back up with Pinkie Pie as well as other ponies Rainbow Dash and Applejack, and [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] in scatting "[[wikipedia:Deck the Halls|Deck the Halls]]" {{storylink|Commercial/Prime|The Hub Carolers}} and singing "[[wikipedia:Jingle Bells|Jingle Bells]]". {{storylink|Commercial/Prime|The Hub Carolers (Second spot)}}

He also demanded that viewers vote for him in the Hub's 2010 "Naughty or Nice" contest. They must have been listening, because he was eventually voted the "Naughtiest" villain on the Hub that year.

===Titan Magazines ''Prime'' comics===
Under Megatron's leadership, the Decepticons conquered many city states including [[Kalis]], [[Tarn (city)|Tarn]] and [[Vos]]. When the time came to strike against [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], Megatron led a five-con team in under the cover of darkness to bomb the [[Iacon Energon Refinery]]. They had barely planted the first bomb when they were spotted and fired on. After the other three Decepticons were shot down, Megatron gave Soundwave a bomb and set about causing a distraction while his second-in-command went to plant it. When Soundwave was also shot down, Megatron flew into action, helping up the rest of his team and carrying Soundwave as they retreated under the cover of an exploding bomb. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.2|War Story}}

With a new plan, Megatron took [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] to attack the [[Yamal|NS ''Yamal'']], a Russian icebreaker near [[Antarctica]]. He intended to use a [[static lance]] to cause the ship's reactors to meltdown exposing energon deposits beneath the ice. Unfortunately Optimus got wind of the plan and came storming in. As Megatron detailed his plan during their one-on-one fight, Optimus took possession of the lance. Megatron attempted to take it back, only for Optimus to hit him with it. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.3|Ice Breaker}}

Megatron and Soundwave somehow slipped some code into ''[[Invasionauts II]]'' to hypnotise Raf into opening the GroundBridge so they could send Vehicons through. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.4|Tinker, Tailor, Gamer, Spy!}} Irritated at Starscream's failure to end the Autobot problem, Megatron demanded his subordinate try and lure the Autobots into a trap instead for fruitlessly searching for them. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.6|All the President's 'Bots!}}

Now infuriated at his army being constantly bested by the Autobots, Megatron took the ''Nemesis'' to the [[Erta Ale volcano]] where he had his troops fight in a series of deathmatches to apply the principal of survival of the fittest. He forced Starscream to fight [[Fearstorm]], and when Starscream won, seemed happy enough to let his lieutenant return to the ship. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.7|Megatron's Law}} After Bulkhead destroyed an energon store, Megatron had him captured and taken aboard the warship, where the Autobot was placed in the newly developed [[Ultra Prison]]. Megatron sneeringly informed Bulkhead that the prison would slowly wipe his mind, but it was Megatron who got the raw end of the deal when the ''Nemesis'' was badly damaged during the inevitable Autobot rescue. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.11|The Battle for Bulkhead}}

====Mega-Mouth====
Megatron occasionally takes time out from conquering the universe to...answer fan mail? He also sometimes seems [[Megatron (Movie)|confused]] about which [[universal stream]] he hails from, as he claimed he attacked [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel]] {{storylink|Transformers_Comic_issue_4.1#Mega-Mouth|Mega-Mouth #1}} he also explained why he wore a cowl in ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]'' {{storylink|Transformers_Comic_issue_4.4#Mega-Mouth|Mega-Mouth #4}} and he also said he survived ''Dark of the Moon'', after some fan asked how Megatron could be answering those fanmails. {{storylink|Transformers_Comic_issue_4.5#Mega-Mouth|Mega-Mouth #5}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
{{voiceactor|[[Fred Tatasciore]] (English)|[[Oliviero Corbetta]] (Italian), [[Juan Carlos Lozano]] (Spanish)}}
[[Image:WFC_Megatron.jpg|thumb|350px|He wants the whooole wooorld, in his hand!]]
During the early war on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Megatron found reference to an energy source called [[Dark Energon]], which had impressive potential as a weapon, and became determined to claim it for himself. One of the few places it was made was in a station in orbit around Cybertron, guarded by a politically neutral force led by [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]. With this knowledge, he took a ship and launched an assault on the station.

The ship was badly damaged in the attack, and so he ordered [[Barricade (Prime)|Barricade]] and [[Brawl (WFC)| Brawl]], piloting it, to ram the station. He and many of his soldiers survived the impact and escaped the core's detonation. They were then confronted by Starscream, who informed them that they would not allow them to take what he had guarded for ten thousand years. After surviving a trap of sentry guns, Megatron, Barricade, and Brawl were reinforced by more of Megatron's troops, and set out on their way to find the station's Dark Energon stores and claim them for the war effort. They encountered significant resistance, but managed to shoot their way through, with directional aid from [[Soundwave (Prime)| Soundwave]]. Barricade noted that the station itself seemed quite primitive; Megatron noted it was very old, and that he intended to modernize it... At one point, the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]] confronted Megatron nonviolently, asking him to give up his quest, as Dark Energon would result in only horror, death, and destruction, to which Megatron sneered, "You say that as if it were a bad thing."

[[Image:WFC-MegatronmeetsStarscream.jpg|left|thumb|300px|At last we meet, my punching bag.]]

Along their way to the Dark Energon, they found that a large portion of the station had been blasted clean off, the debris field traversable but sparse enough to allow easy viewing of Cybertron itself. Soundwave soon found records indicating that a small amount of Dark Energon lost containment and was the sole cause of the destruction, underscoring Megatron's desire for it. When Barricade asked how he expected to control it when no other had, Megatron said that such power was only for the strong, that he was the strongest, and not to question him again.

When they finally reached the storage chamber, and Megatron averted Starscream's destruction of it, he calmly entered into a container full of raw Dark Energon, while Starscream watched and gloated at his imminent destruction...only for him to walk out, not only unscathed, but crackling with power, which he further bestowed upon Barricade and Brawl. A single blast of Dark Energon was enough to destroy an entire company of station security forces, the last line of defense between Megatron and Starscream and his companions.

Jetfire again tried to warn Megatron about the dangers of Dark Energon, but Starscream interrupted, asking to join the Decepticon leader. Megatron asked what Starscream could offer that he could not simply take. Starscream revealed the station's supply of Dark Energon was almost spent, and he knew how to manufacture more—and as luck would have it, there was a dormant [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge]] which could be used to power it. Jetfire retreated to inform [[Sentinel Zeta Prime| Zeta Prime]]; Megatron let him go, seeming pleased by the notion of letting the Autobots tremble in advance of their actions, and sent Starscream, [[Thundercracker (WFC)| Thundercracker]], and [[Skywarp (Prime)| Skywarp]] to activate the bridge.

Megatron repeatedly mocked what he perceived as Starscream's slowness in his simple mission, but the Seeker did what he said he could. With a steady supply of Dark Energon, Megatron launched an attack on Iacon City, intending to take a device called the [[Omega Key]] and use it to enter the Core of Cybertron. This time, he took [[Breakdown (Prime)| Breakdown]] and Soundwave with him. The trio took the less-guarded way in—which, since the Autobots were not complete fools (as even Megatron would admit), still had significant military presence. During the attack, Starscream noted that Dark Energon was proving every bit as potent as Megatron had promised. Breakdown let Megatron know of his misgivings about the Sky Commander; Megatron admitted he was treacherous and untrustworthy, but he had useful talents, and his cunning and ambition was intriguing.

The Omega Key had been taken from its normal resting place, however, by Autobot leader Zeta Prime, and so Megatron took his squad on an assault on Zeta's headquarters. They met Brawl, leading an attack on the doors to Zeta Prime's armory, along the way. Even Megatron's touch of Dark Energon could not breach the vault doors, however, and so he called in [[Dark Energon Bomber]]s. When they were shot down, Brawl suggested they take out the Autobots' air defense guns, after which bombers were called in again; Megatron's troops then held off a massive assault from what seemed like the entire Autobot army while waiting for the bombing run to finally arrive.

[[Image:WFC Megatron Vs ZetaPrime.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Zeta Prime, you might be more egotistical than me. I mean really, a huge holographic version of you and smaller holograms doing what you can't do without your pointy stick thing?]]

After the vault doors were breached, they reached Zeta Prime himself, who had constructed several layers of security while he waited. An invincible energy field protected him, while he could drop portions of the ceiling with pistons to crush anything beneath them, and construct endless holographic clones of himself outfitted for melee combat, which Megatron personally found nauseating. However, his defenses were not without flaw: periodically, the power core would need to disperse waste heat, and Megatron's team survived long enough to destroy it during this stage. Zeta fell, buried under the wreckage of his own defenses, and Megatron took the device he'd carried...which started to make electronic chirping noises. Zeta, with black humor, noted that the device was not the Omega Key. It merely ''activated'' the Key, which would come to them...

Searching for the Key in the skies aboard another ship, Megatron, with Soundwave and Breakdown at the controls, were abruptly confronted by a massive ship, [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]], who knocked them out of the sky, causing them to crash back in Iacon. There, they played a cat-and-mouse campaign in a desperate attempt to survive the enormous Autobot's vast firepower, though Soundwave noted that the weaponry they bore had little chance of penetrating Omega Supreme's armor. Megatron, for his part, at least contrived to appear unafraid, claiming that if it came to a real fight, the brute wouldn't stand a chance against Megatron's intellect. However, Omega's attacks drove them underground and left them unable to immediately transmit counter to Starscream, who declared Megatron dead and announced he was taking control. Even when they re-established contact, Starscream's aerial forces only briefly distracted Omega, who dispensed large numbers of troops, sucked up Decepticons with a tractor beam, fired weapons of mass destruction, and mined the roads Megatron and his squad were using.

Soundwave, however, had come up with a suggestion—there were weapons emplacements higher up that had the ability to damage Omega Supreme. Taking them from the Autobots was a battle in and of itself, but nothing compared to the fight against Omega Supreme, who could unload entire squadrons of Aerialbots. Nonetheless, Megatron's boldness and tactical acumen finally shot Omega Supreme out of the sky.

[[Image:WFC-hearmynameandtremble.jpg|left|thumb|300px|I stand on your crotch!]]

Gloating, Megatron found that the behemoth was still not defeated, and indeed was drawing power from Cybertron itself to repair his systems, making him stronger, if anything. However, by corrupting the energon batteries with which he was using to feed himself with Dark Energon charges, they were able to weaken him to the point where they could finally blast away his last defenses and brought him to heel. With Omega Supreme defeated, Megatron went underground, directly to the Core, and corrupted it with a massive infusion of Dark Energon, finally bringing Cybertron itself more completely under his control.

At this point, Megatron was clearly convinced, and for good reason, that he'd won, making propaganda broadcasts extolling his greatness and how he had taken away the Autobots' burdens of "liberty" and "choice". When Starscream was defeated and the Decagon retaken, however, he realized the Autobots were not yet going to roll over for him, and sent a distress signal from Zeta Prime, whom he had kept alive in the Kaon prison camp, in order to provoke a rescue attempt from the Autobots. His old acquaintance Optimus took the bait, and Megatron confronted him, telling him that the war could be over tomorrow if Optimus took the Autobots and left. Optimus refused, so Megatron consigned him and his team to the prisons. When they managed to stage a mass breakout, an enraged Megatron ordered his troops to prevent their escape at any cost, to the point of tearing apart portions of Kaon.

This was not enough, however, and they escaped, journeying to the Core, where they kickstarted the cleansing of Megatron's corruption. Doing so, however, would take the Core millions of years of shutdown, rendering Cybertron uninhabitable. Whether Megatron knew this or not, when he saw the Autobots leaving after Optimus's refusal of his earlier offer, he apparently took offense. His earlier plans of renovating Starscream's station had come to fruition; now, it mounted a powerful superweapon, capable of destroying entire structures in one shot. He had it fire upon the Autobot transports as they left. When a team of Aerialbots attempted to disable or destroy it, he called Jetfire, now one of them, and taunted him about his past. He further mocked them when they destroyed the plasma coolant system without apparently having accounted for backups. Finally, during the attack he came into possession of information on Optimus Prime's location, and ordered Trypticon—the name of the weapon, for it was actually a Cybertronian—to fire upon it.

Trypticon, however, was forced into his natural form and defeated after he crash-landed on Cybertron. Megatron's reaction to this went unrecorded. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
Megatron was the Decepticon Leader during the final days of the Great War. After capturing an Autobot facility, and killing a cadet, Megatron revealed his plan to his troops. Megatron intended to conquer Trypticon Space Station, which had the means and power to manufacture Dark Energon: a variant of Energon which greatly increased the stamina and strength of its host. Megatron fought his way through the station to its commander, the Autobot Starscream. Upon Starscream's defeat, Starscream offered his services and the Dark Energon if he was spared. Megatron agreed, and Starscream joined the Decepticons.

After a test run of the Dark Energon in Kaon Prison, Soundwave deduced the element would only kill the host, but Starscream was able to find a way to fix it. Megatron then decided the time was right, and led his army to the inner levels of Cybertron. He was able to activate the uplink to channel energy from the Core of Cybertron itself to Trypticon Station, but he needed the Omega Key to access it once it was shut down with a firewall.

[[Image:WFCDS Defeat Omega Supreme.jpg|thumb|left|256px|Simple enough... OH GOD BULLETS.]]
Megatron learned through a recording from Laserbeak that Autobot Leader Zeta Prime had the Omega Key in his possession and had holed up deep within Iacon. Megatron led a full-scale assault on the city, totally devastating Iacon, until he found Zeta Prime at last. After a hard battle, Zeta fell, and Megatron obtained the Omega Key. However, immediately upon taking it, alarms went off, and Iacon itself was shaking. Zeta Prime, despite being mortally wounded, laughed at Megatron's face, saying the Omega Key was only the key to the ''true'' key: the city-sized Autobot Omega Supreme.

Omega immediately attacked the victorious Decepticons, and quickly decimated their presence in Iacon, save for Megatron's team and a few others. By this point, Megatron was absolutely furious at Starscream: Megatron declared it was he who led them to Omega Supreme and the devastating onslaught he carried out. Starscream bitterly retorted even if Megatron killed him, Omega Supreme would still be out for his blood, helping nothing whatsoever. Megatron angrily let it go for the time being, and led his army to battle. His troops' confidence beginning to falter, Megatron declared they would either be kicking themselves for not acting for the rest of their lives, or heroes in a historic event. His men followed him to battle Omega, and the titan fell. Megatron was free to corrupt the Core of Cybertron with Dark Energon, and obtain near-supremacy of Cybertron.

That kind of went downhill when the new Autobot leader, Optimus Prime, extinguished the Dark Energon and destroyed Trypticon Space Station, didn't it? {{Storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===
{{voiceactor|[[Fred Tatasciore]] (English)|[[Oliviero Corbetta]] (Italian)}}

Early in the war, when the Autobots learned of the existence of the orbiting superweapon [[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon]], Megatron sent waves of Decepticon forces to keep them from discovering more about it. Megatron, happy to see the destruction Trypticon was creating, ordered Starscream and Skywarp at gunpoint to return to Trypticon and clean up after it, while he took his troops into battle to scour the area for Autobots to kill. Few Autobots other than the medic, [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]], were spared Megatron's initial assault.

When Megatron found out that Starscream had left his post at Trypticon, Megatron grew angry. But the Autobots had infiltrated the [[Datacore]], so Megatron focused his efforts there instead. Bumblebee was captured, and information useful for the taking of [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] was pulled from his mind. Megatron assigned Skywarp the task of the initial Iacon assault. The traitorous Starscream returned to Megatron's focus, and the Air Commander was ordered to infiltrate the Core of Cybertron to reactivate the [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge]]. But Starscream took too long, discovering Megatron had already reached the Core by the time he arrived. In a foul mood, Megatron would test Starscream's loyalty by putting him on the Iacon assault's front lines.

The assault went as planned, and Iacon crumbled. As Barricade and Starscream reached an empty Council Chamber, Megatron alerted them to the evacuation of the surviving Autobots. Three Autobot ships positioned themselves to escape, and so Megatron ordered Thundercracker and Skywarp to take them down.

Though Iacon fell, the Trypticon orbiting superweapon was destroyed by the Autobots... but not before Megatron ripped the datacore from its brain so as to salvage its information on Dark Energon. Megatron was pleased. Despite his loss, he still had the upper hand. {{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}

===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
[[Image:Megatron_FOC.png‎|thumb|left|200px]]
{{voiceactor|[[Fred Tatasciore]] (English)}}
When Cybertron had begun to die, Megatron blamed Optimus Prime, as he was the one who had ruined his plans for the planet. Megatron launched an attack on [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] in order to destroy the Ark and get revenge. He sent Starscream and the Combaticons to capture Optimus and bring him before him. As he prepared to destroy both the Ark and the Autobot leader, the newly awakened Metroplex tore the roof off the building they were in. Refusing to retreat, Megatron took on the colossus head on, only to be smashed into oblivion by the giant Autobot. Due Megatron's death, Starscream took control of the Decepticons and proceeded to run the organization into the ground. Unhappy with the change in management, Soundwave salvaged what was left of Megatron and rebuilt him and reactivated him with Dark Energon. After awakening, Megatron was enraged to see that Starscream was in control. Megatron then proceeded to crash Starscream's [[The Transformers: The Movie|coronation]] and drove him off. Due to Starscream's self indulgence, the Decepticon's energon supply was dwindling, forcing Megatron to find more power. He decided to to go get the power core from the fallen Trypticon and while doing so, he happily "reintroduced" himself to the Autobots. After arriving at Trypticon's crash site, he realized the beast was still alive and had Soundwave revitalize him. Megatron didn't know or care whether or not Trypticon's was still sentient or not, but told the beast that since he had failed him, he would be rebuilt to Megatron's liking. Megatron then told Soundwave to intiate the "Nemesis Protocol" and permenantly lock Trypticon in his alternate form.{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron}}
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=== ''Transformers Prime: The Game'' ===
[[Image:Transformers prime the game megatron.jpg|thumb|left|200px]]
{{voiceactor|[[Frank Welker]] (English)}}
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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianMegatron.jpg|thumb|right|300px| Fashionably asymmetrical.]]
*'''Cybertronian Megatron''' (Deluxe, 2010)
**''Accessories'': clear purple missile, [[Fusion Cannon]]

: Part of the second wave of [[Transformers Generations|''Generations'']] toys, Cybertronian Megatron is a toy is based on his appearance in the video game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'', transforming into a Cybertronian self-propelled gun. The treads of his vehicle can be positioned in either a vertical configuration like a traditional tank, or in a horizontal hover-tank configuration. Megatron's spring-loaded cannon can attach to either arm. He also has an insignia on his back, but unlike Optimus, his is not hidden by kibble. Like [[Soundwave (Prime)#Generations|''War for Cybertron'' Soundwave]], his head has a light-piping gimmick that has been neutered by his painted eyes.

: Some units of the figure have Megatron's left internal shoulder strut misassembled, preventing that side of the tank-mode from becoming properly flush to the body when transforming. This can be corrected by unscrewing and separating the outer shoulder structure, flipping the strut 180 degrees, and reassembling the shoulder covering.

: Also, the packaging image for his tank mode is flipped.

: This mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys#United|Megatron Cybertron Mode]] and [[Darkside Megatron]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/GenerationsMegatron/megatron.htm More information on Cybertronian Megatron at TFU.info]''

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===Prime: First Edition===
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[[Image:Primetoy-MegatronEP.jpg|right|thumb|300px|His jet mode needs a little scarf attached to the robot head.]]
*'''Optimus Prime vs Megatron''' (First Edition 5 figure gift set, 2011)
**''Accessories'': Fusion Cannon

: Part of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#First Edition (2011)|Prime: First Edition]]'', this Deluxe Class version of Megatron transforms into his alien ship mode. He comes with his Fusion Cannon, which can either be held with his hands in robot mode, or peg onto his jet mode by folding the handle in and pegging it behind his exposed, peeking head. It is also in this latter configuration for the cannon that the otherwise useless groove and tab on the cannon and its handle can be pegged onto the tab and otherwise useless socket on his right arm, giving him the classic, arm-mounted, yet ''strangely undocumented'' Fusion Cannon configuration shown in his [[stock photography]].

: Speaking of undocumented features, his [[instructions]] show a noticeably different "completed" vehicle mode when compared to his stock photos. Specifically, the instructions completely neglect the extra steps to flip his wings out and form a more [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] vehicle mode, opting instead for a more slender, wingless vehicle mode. To achieve this undocumented form, his underside leg panels must be opened, flipped around and over to the top of the ship, be pegged onto a tab on the side of his intakes, and his pointy wingtips must be flipped out from underneath. He also has some clearance issues when transforming. His intakes and the panel that surrounds his head in vehicle mode tend to collide when the intakes are snugly angled into and out of the panel, often resulting in the intakes popping off the (detachable) plastic hinges that they're on. He also comes somewhat mis-transformed in the package, with the positions of the intakes and the panel on his back being switched around, with the panel being placed ''after'' the intakes, instead of ''before''.

: He comes with a similarly-scaled [[Optimus Prime (Prime)#EntertainmentPack|Optimus Prime]] and PVC figurines of [[Miko Nakadai#Prime|Miko Nakadai]], [[Jack Darby#EntertainmentPack|Jack Darby]] and [[Raf Esquivel#EntertainmentPack|Raf Esquivel]], as well as a DVD of the "Series Premiere" episode "[[Masters & Students]]".

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*'''Megatron''' (First Edition Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories'': Fusion Cannon

: The Japanese release of Deluxe Class Megatron was packaged by itself on a card. The instructions show the proper vehicle mode, how to attach his fusion cannon to his arm, and the figure is transformed correctly in the box.
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===Prime===
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[[Image:TF-Cyberverse-Commander-Megatron.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Megatron''' (Cyberverse Commander, 2012)
** ''Series / Number'': '''02 / 004'''
**''Accessories'': "Cyber sword"

: [[Cyberverse#Series 2|Cyberverse]] Megatron features translucent purple plastic on his entire torso (although with the chest panels covering a portion of it) so that he can be illuminated by the lights from the larger play-sets. He comes with a translucent "cyber sword" weapon which features two [[C joint|3mm post]]s and a peg-hole in-between, allowing it to combine with other Cyberverse weapons, peg in two different ways into either his hands, into the hole just above his right wrist, or onto the top of his Fusion Cannon, or be pegged and stored on his back. Rare for a Hasbro product, his sword is both hard plastic and pointy. The Hasbro release comes with a pack-in file card, and his initial first wave release additionally comes with a mini DVD featuring the Transformers Prime episode, "Masters & Students".

: While the transformation-related post on his arm-mounted Fusion Cannon may seem 3mm-compatible, it is actually slightly too big, and mounting the sword onto it may cause the sword's peg-hole to crack. Fortunately, the transformation-related hole under his left arm can hold the sword and other 3mm posts just fine.

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[[Image:PrimeRIDtoy-MegatronPowerizer.jpg|right|thumb|300px|And it's like the sky is new.]]
*'''Megatron''' (Voyager, 2012)
**''Series / Number'': '''01 / 002'''
**''Japanese release date'': '''[[July 28|7-28]]-2012'''
**''Japanese ID number'': '''AM-15'''
**''Accessories'': "Cannon" & "Combat Claw" (Hasbro only), "Gora II" & "Hades" Arms Microns (TakaraTomy only)

: Like the Cyberverse version, ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#Robots in Disguise (2012)|Prime: Robots in Disguise]]'' Megatron has a fair amount of translucent purple plastic in the torso and forearms, and a similar general design to his other ''Prime'' toys of the line in both modes, although the plastic is a little more matte than in the stock photo. He comes with two weapons; the arm cannon is a MechTech-like weapon, where pushing a plunger at the back swings two blades out from either side and pushes a third one forward, combining to make a larger one below the cannon's mouth. At the same time, a red LED swings out and activates, shining through the plastic blades. The cannon can be mounted on either arm, either in the classic elbow port or from one on the wrist, and the blade can be locked in place by manually swinging the blades out while holding the plunger back.

:He also comes with a combat claw, which mounts on the wrist point on either hand and has a piece which rests in the hand to appear more as if it's being held. The claw can also be mounted in front of the cannon, which does not interfere with the cannon's blade gimmick. Both weapons can also be stored on the back when not in use, and it is possible to trigger the cannon's LED gimmick and lock it on while on the back without unfolding the blade much, resulting in the LED shining through and making the inner chest glow red.

[[Image:Primetoy-MegatronDarkness.jpg|right|thumb|300px|More like an Arms ''Macron'', amirite???]]

: The TakaraTomy release of Voyager Megatron sports many differences. '''Megatron Darkness''', part of the fifth wave of Japanese ''Prime'' product, is said to be Megatron's reborn form, having "come back from Hell" (aka the events of "[[Sick Mind]]" and "[[Out of His Head]]"). His base plastics are shades of cold-gray as opposed to the [[Hasbro]] warm-grays, and his chestplates, shoulderplates and head have been given a silver [[Vacuum metallizing|vac-metal]] finish. He comes with a silver-foil [[sticker]] sheet that adds a lot of purple filigree designs to him in a matter similar to the [[e-HOBBY]] [[exclusive]] [[Galvatron II#Toys|Galvatron II]]. The Hasbro accessories have been replaced with a pair of [[Arms Micron]] kits; [[Gora#II|Gora II]], a gorilla that becomes Megatron's fusion cannon, and [[Hades]], a massive bat that becomes a winged backpack or a giant scythe weapon. In addition, both Microns CAN combine in an unofficial way that approximates the show-accurate "sword" emerging from the base of the fusion cannon configuration. However, it is both unsightly, ungainly, and a complete and utter royal mess.

: People who purchased Megatron Darkness from Ion stores on his release date got a free [[Gul#Hellflame|Hellflame Gul]] Arms Micron (while supplies last). Those who preordered Megatron Darkness through Amazon Japan got a free [[B.2#Shining|Shining B.2 Arms Micron]] with their order.

::*''[http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1623.html Megatron Darkness at Alfes's Toy Blog]''

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[[Image:Prime-toy_MegatronTakTomDx.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Megatron tries to get the monkey off his back.]]
* '''Megatron''' (Deluxe, [[March 31|3-31]]-[[2012|12]])
** ''ID number:'' '''AM-05'''
** ''Accessories:'' "Gora" Arms Micron

: As part of the first wave of the Japanese ''Prime'' line, this toy is a [[redeco]] and [[retool]]ing of the First Edition Megatron toy. He has had some of his [[paint operation]]s replaced with customer-applied foil [[sticker]]s (mostly the silver bits on his pelvis). His "backpack" has also been retooled to add [[5mm post]]s and post-holes as part of the line-wide [[Arms Micron]] gimmick. Rather than coming with his original fusion cannon, he instead comes with [[Gora]], a gorilla-like robot who transforms into the fusion cannon, complete with flip-out blades.

::*''[http://higekumatoytoy.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-1469.html Arms Micron Megatron at Alfes's blog]''

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[[Image:Primetoy-MegatronDarkEnergon.jpg|right|thumb|300px|"So, they think can outdo [[Hasbro|us]] by giving [[TakaraTomy|their]] [[black repaint]] chrome, eh? We'll show them! Give him more translucent plastic!"]]
*'''Megatron''' (Dark Energon Voyager, 2012)
**''Accessories'': "Cannon" & "Combat Claw"

:A [[BigBadToyStore]]-exclusive [[redeco]] of Prime RID Megatron in translucent purple, black, and violet.
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===Transformers (2010)===
[[Image:TRURageOverCybertronCybertronianMegatron.jpg|thumb|300px|Nobody makes fun of Megatron's lovely skirt. Not more than once, anyway.]]
*'''Rage over Cybertron''' (Multipack, 2011)
**''Accessories'': Fusion Cannon, missile

:A [[redeco]] of Cybertronian Megatron with purple parts, a translucent purple cannon and purple and red paint details resembling the effects of [[Dark Energon]], available in a [[Toys"R"Us]] [[exclusive]] three-pack with Cybertronian Optimus Prime and Cybertronian Bumblebee.

:The [[stock photography|stock photo]] to the right has his vehicle mode mis-transformed. His treads are left almost untransformed as his arms, but with his hands folded inside the treads, and the top panel on his left shoulder hasn't been rotated and pegged between his shoulders/tank front. His robot mode is also mis-transformed, with his back panel not being pegged into his back and being left hanging behind his thighs.
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==Merchandise==
===Mcdonald's===
[[Image:Primetoy-MegatronHappyMeal.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Megatron''' (Happy Meal, 2012)
:*''McNumber:'' '''2'''
:Happy Meal Megatron is a nontransformable space jet! A spring-loaded paddle is launched when his robot mode head is pressed down, and when the fusion cannon on the back of the vehicle is pushed forward, a yellow LED shines out the front of it. An on/off switch on the jet's underside enables or disables the light feature.
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==Notes==
[[Image:Tfprimemegatronjet.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Too fast for screen caps.]]
[[Image:VectorSigmaBotBuilderMegatron.jpg|thumb|250px|Green with evil.]]
*Megatron's model is usable in ''War for Cybertron'' multiplayer as the Destroyer-type chassis for [[Soldier (WFC)|Soldier]]-class characters. His parts are also available in ''Fall of Cybertron'', now classified as Gunner-type components for [[Titan (FOC)|Titan]]-class characters.
*As revealed in [[One Shall Rise, Part 3]], Megatron used to have blue optics.
*Megatron's designation as an energon miner was "D-16".<ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/play/details.cfm?guid=7fd5ecd9-19b9-f369-1041-a7635be83172 War for Cybertron timeline].</ref> Megatron's original [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]] was "16". Takara would eventually change the numbering system using a "D" to denote [[Decepticon|Destrons]]. So Megatron's Japanese ID number could retroactively be considered "D-16".
*In ''Transformers: War for Cybertron'', Megatron has multiple glitches when controlled by the computer, among them shrinking (quite hilariously), losing his Fusion Cannon, and having his Tank mode cannon stick straight up (also humorous). He may be the most glitchy character in the game.
*The show design of this version of Megatron takes visual cues from both Generation 1 (the ever-famous [[Megatron (G1)|buckethead]] and lower legs resembling a pistol's handgrip) and [[Megatron (Movie)|the movie version]] of the Decepticon leader (the sharp angles and bits on his shoulders, along with two-toed feet and a demonic-looking face with sharp shark-like teeth), even including the jet mode the latter version appeared in.
*The ''Prime'' staff used the rationale that Megatron would not scan an Earth mode out of disgust at humans.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/botcon-2010-transformers-prime-panel-coverage-170054/ BotCon 2010 Transformers Prime Panel Coverage]</ref> According to Cybertronian Megatron's packaging bio, Megatron often changes his alternate mode, probably in an attempt to explain why he's a tank in the game and a jet in the cartoon.
* Megatron's body parts are available to use in the Hub website's [[Vector Sigma Bot Builder]] online game. Normally, you cannot configure a generic 'bot using all Megatron parts, but you can see what one would look like at right through the magic of Photoshop.

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===Arms Up Modes===
In the Japanese ''Prime'' toyline, Megatron has named powered-up modes when given various [[Arms Micron]]s in certain configurations:

*'''Crusher Mode''' (クラッシャーモード ''kurasshāmōdo'')
**''Arms Microns'': Balo, Gora
: Megatron's "Crusher Mode", as seen on his box-back photo, uses a combined-weapon made up of Gora in "extended-cannon" mode, with [[Balo]] in drill-mode at the end, attached to Megatron's arm.

*'''Darkness Mode''' (ダークネスモード ''dākunesumōdo'')
**''Arms Microns'': Balo (x2), Gora II, Gul, Hades, Igu, Jida, Noji, Zori
: This is one heavy loadout! Megatron Darkness's Arms Up Mode has him wearing [[Hades]] as wings, with [[Noji]] and [[Igu]] in weapon modes in the inner part of each wing, and a pair of [[Balo]]s in shield/shuriken mode, one on each wingtip. (Presumably, Balo G will work as a substitute for one of them.) He carries [[Jida]] in scissors mode in his left hand, and wields the [[Planet Bowgun]] in his right.

===Foreign names===

*''Mandarin:'' {{hanyu|'''Megaton'''|密卡登|Mìkǎdēng|Taiwan}}, {{hanyu|'''Wēi Zhèn Tīan'''|威震天||lit. "Extremely Prestigious" or "Heaven-shaking Might", China}}

==References==
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[[Category:Hall of Fame]]
[[Category:Letters page answerers]]
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[[Category:Transformers Online Decepticons]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]
[[Category:Fall of Cybertron Decepticons]]

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2012-08-24T22:07:30Z

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Shockwave (WFC)

2012-08-24T21:50:02Z

192.249.47.177: same

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:''Shockwave is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:War for Cybertron Shockwave.jpg|300px|thumb|right|"When your hit percentage exceeds mine, YOU may choose the soundtrack!"]]
'''Shockwave''' was a member of the scientist caste in the industrial city of [[Kaon]]. In a reversal of the usual order, he was swayed by the ambitions of the former mining caste member turned gladiator [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]. Serving as Megatron's "pet mad scientist" and [[second-in-command|second-in-command]], he saw to the fighter's armament during his rise to prominence, all the while fantasizing on the prospect of ''mass producing'' such warriors. Thankfully, Megatron's more practical nature reined in Shockwave as the movement which became the Decepticons finally moved out of the shadows.

==Fiction==
===Aligned novels===
Shockwave was a scientist who lived on the fringes of Cybertronian society, admitting to [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]] he knew little of [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]]. He was one of the scientists whose innovations allowed the mass production of stressed-crystal material used to build [[Crystal City]]. There he began his [[combiner]] experiments, creating [[Bruticus (Prime)|Bruticus Maximus]], whose lack of intelligence in combined form made him a danger to friend and foe, and he was put in [[stasis lock]]. Shockwave moved to [[Kaon]], becoming a surgeon for the gladiators, where he met [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]us. He continued his combination experiments with the three [[Insecticon (Prime)|Insecticon]]s, whom Megatronus bested in combat: it was in this match that the crowd chanted a shorter name for the gladiator, Megatron. Megatron recognized two things about Shockwave: that he was bereft of any morality or ethics, and that while he was his most loyal ally, he would turn on him one day.

[[Image:WFCcomicDecepticons.jpg|thumb|300px|''We three 'Cons of Kaon are...'']]

During the [[Autobot]]-[[Decepticon]] war, Shockwave perfected his experiments with the [[Constructicon (WFC)|Constructicon]]s, creating a [[Devastator (WFC)|Devastator]] which was unleashed on Crystal City. Shockwave set up a laboratory in the ruins but was ordered to take command of the newly conquered city state [[Tarn]]. Autobot sympathizers became fodder for experiments, while Shockwave's forces conquered [[Vos]]. He quelled dissent in both cities by requesting Vos' Air Commanders [[photon missile]] strike Tarn, for which he claimed the Autobots were responsible, and then had a photon missile strike (of supposedly unknown origin) ordered on Vos, killing the Air Commanders whose true loyalty lay with [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]].

When the Decepticons captured [[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon]] Station, Shockwave oversaw two of Starscream's scientists ingest [[Dark Energon]]: the powerful result activated a security [[gyro-inhibitor charge]] which rendered Shockwave unconscious. Shockwave later subjected the two subjects to a deprivation study, and found it necessary to muzzle them as the duo agonized as a result of Dark Energon's absence in their bodies. Shockwave also used the [[Spark]]s of those killed in the capture to turn Trypticon into a Decepticon, able to spawn drones and [[Mini-Con|Minicons]] in its corridors.

Shockwave remained on Cybertron in command of the Decepticons, while Megatron left with his elite soldiers on the ''Nemesis'' to pursue the Autobot ''[[Ark (WFC)|Ark]]''. Shockwave promised Megatron that [[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1|Cybertron would remain as he left it]], the notion of which Megatron chastised. He ordered Shockwave to rebuild Cybertron and enslave the remaining Autobots. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

{{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}
{{charstubfiction}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Steve Blum]]''

[[Image:WFC Shockwave game.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Well done. Here come the test results: "You are a horrible person." That's what it says: a horrible person. We weren't even testing for that.]]

{{Note|Shockwave is an pre-order [[exclusive]] downloadable content character for use in multiplayer modes, and is not playable in the ''War for Cybertron'' storyline campaign. Using a preorder code to unlock him will allow the player to use Shockwave in Escalation mode, and makes his chassis available for customizing an online multiplayer character for Decepticon scientists. His chassis is labelled as "Retaliator". Shockwave was later made available alongside the other preorder-exclusive characters in the ''Transformers: War for Cybertron Map and Character Pack''. He was available for the XBox 360 and PS3 versions of the game, but not for the PC version.}}
{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' - Decepticons (DS)===
:''Voice actor:'' Steve Blum

{{Note|Shockwave is an unlockable character for the Nintendo DS version of ''War for Cybertron''. On the Decepticon version he can replace any of the other Decepticons in the campaign mode. He can be unlocked by beating Purification 6 in Arena Mode.}}

Shockwave was at the Energon Purification zone when the Decepticons had used it for their stores of Energon. Shockwave challenged Megatron and his troops to a fight, saying if they beat him, he'd join their ranks. Shockwave was indeed defeated, and somewhat reluctantly joined the Decepticon ranks.
{{Storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Steve Blum]]''
When Cybertron was beginning to shut down, Shockwave wanted to reboot it, but to do this, he needed an energon supply. A big one. As he searched for one, he discovered an ancient technology called Space Bridges. Using them, Shockwave began searching for new planets that he could suck the life out of, one of which happens to be [[Earth|Prehistoric Earth]]. Seeing potential in the large reptilian creatures and insects that inhabit the planet, he returned to Cybertron and experimented on [[Dinobot (FOC)|five captured autobots]], giving them new forms based on the reptiles and lowered intelligence to be controlled more easily. With this success, Shockwave also upgraded several [[Insecticon (Prime)|Decepticons]] based on the insects he saw. Naturally, the so-called Dinobots broke free and trashed Shockwave's lab.

{{comingsoon}}
{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron}}

==Commercial appearances==
:''Voice actor:'' [[Corey Burton]]''
Megatron left Shockwave to handle an unknown battle when he arrived. Shockwave instructed Soundwave to transform into boombox mode and play [[The Touch]]! After a while, Starscream asked about Shockwave's choice of songs and was told once he got a higher hit percentage than Shockwave then he could choose a soundtrack. {{storylink|Commercial#War for Cybertron|GameStop's commercial for their Shockwave multiplayer exclusive}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-Shockwave.jpg|right|thumb|300px|"I want him in the games until he dies playing. Acknowledge." "Acknowledged, Master Control." "End of line."]]
*'''Shockwave''' (Deluxe, 2012)
**''Series/number'': '''01/#003'''
**''Accessories:'' Two-piece laser cannon

: Part of the first wave of [[2012]] ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' Deluxe Class toys, Shockwave is based on his ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)| War for Cybertron]]'' design, and transforms into a "Cybertronian mobile artillery" mode. The front center fuselage of the vehicle becomes a [[5mm post|hand-held]] laser cannon which can be stored on his back, and undocumented in his [[instructions]], can replace his hands by folding either one of them in, revealing a socket on his wrist that a tab underneath his cannon can mount to. As another undocumented feature, the cannon actually consists of two pieces, with a large y-shaped barrel that can be removed, revealing the sculpted ends of a triple-barreled gun. The y-shaped barrel part can also be stored on Shockwave's back, forming some sort of jet-pack exhaust.

:Shockwave features two examples of [[Kibble#faux-parts|faux-parts]]: The undersides of his heels resemble the front end of the y-shaped barrel part, effectively serving as an extension of the barrel in vehicle mode, whereas a fake replica of the top end of his head (including his signature "ear" panels) is sculpted on the top side of his vehicle mode (which ends up on the underside of his backpack in robot mode).

:The figure has a "dramatic reveal" feature, where pressing the chest into place causes the head to pop up. The clasp used to hold the spring-loaded piece in place is fairly strong, and requires a small amount of force to latch if the head isn't pressed down before moving the chest assembly. Depending on the individual quality of the figure, this can cause the latch to wear out, and the spring is strong enough that the head will push the whole assembly out of place in vehicle mode if not properly retracted. As such, care should be taken on this step of conversion.

: This toy was [[repurposing|repurposed]] as ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' [[Shockwave (G1)/toys#Generations|Shockwave]] in [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]'' comics.

: This mold was [[retool]]ed into ''Generations'' [[Air Raid (WFC)#Generations|Air Raid]].

===Prime===
*'''Shockwave''' (Deluxe, 2012)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''AM-29'''
**''Accessories:'' Gun, Arms Micron

: In Japan, ''Generations'' Shockwave is sold as part of the ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime]]'' toyline. He comes with a new accessory in the form of an as-of-yet unnamed [[Arms Micron]] partner.

{{comingsoontoy}}
{{-}}

==Notes==
* In the map of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] from the "[[Binder of Revelation]]" included in ''[[Transformers Vault]]'', Shockwave came from [[Tarn]], which explains why he took control of it during the war.
* As noted above, Shockwave's model is usable in ''War for Cybertron'' multiplayer as the Retaliator-type chassis for [[Scientist (WFC)|Scientist]]-class characters. His parts are also available for Scientists in ''Fall of Cybertron'', now classified as Defender-type components.
* Shockwave is usable in both the Autobot and Decepticon versions of the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|''War for Cybertron'' games for the DS]]. He is used only for multiplayer, bonus missions and Arena mode in the Autobot version and used in Multiplayer, Arena mode, and campaign in the Decepticon version.
* In the XBOX 360/PS3 versions of War for Cybertron, Shockwave's left arm is his Plasma Cannon, but in the DS version, it's his ''right'' arm.
* The GameStop ''War for Cybertron'' commercial describes Shockwave as second-in-command of the Decepticons, and [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] is never officially referred to as such.
* For said commercial, Shockwave was voiced by [[Corey Burton]], voice actor of [[Shockwave (G1)|Generation 1]] and [[Shockwave (Animated)|Animated]] Shockwaves. He later lamented over [http://www.coreyburton.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=853&sid=3992b18086e21d8f6face60940505757 a forum post] that the performance was so rushed and the "gag" nature so out of character, that it hardly even sounded like him:
** "Two different sessions; and while they were awfully nice to work with, I have to say that the gag line was written and directed completely off-character. Since it was all supposed to be pretty "camp" anyway, and it had to be wedged-into a space that wasn't even there in the initial cut, I just went along with it. Figured it's just a silly bit of hype, that wasn't worth taking seriously enough to fuss over."
* The aforementioned commercial also indicates that Shockwave is evidently a fan of [[Stan Bush]].
* According to his [[Transformers Hall of Fame]] bio, Shockwave's emotions sometimes get the better of him, leading to irrational behavior. He also hopes that one day his work will let him reformat all Cybertronians to a new form of existence- and ideally become ruler of Cybertron in the process. Looks like Megatron's hunch wasn't far off...
* Although Shockwave is a Jet in the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions of the game, he's a ground vehicle in the DS Version. This is most probably because the mission he is unlocked in features his Autobot counterpart, [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]], a Heavy Ground vehicle. Shockwave's increasable stats are, however, those of a Flying Vehicle.
* His ship mode has more than a passing resemblance to ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]]'s ship, ''[[Death's Head (Animated)|Death's Head]]''.


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[[Category:Fall of Cybertron Decepticons]]

Insecticon (WFC)

2012-08-24T21:49:41Z

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:''The Insecticons are [[Transformer]]s from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:FOCInsecticon.jpg|thumb|right|250px|[[Michael Bay]]'s ''A Bug's Life''.]]

Denizens of the under levels of Cybertron, the '''Insecticons''' live in destructive swarms, eating metal and remodeling the landscape into enormous interconnected hive networks.

Known Insecticons include:
*[[Hardshell]]
*[[Sharpshot]]
*[[Kickback (FOC)|Kickback]]

==Fiction==
===Aligned novels===
[[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] experimented on three specimens, optimizing them for battle in the gladiatorial arenas of [[Kaon]] by turning them into [[combiner]]s—something that disgusted the gladiator [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatronus]]. They were primitive to the point of barely possessing a sentient consciousness, but surprisingly capable fighters. The way they moved together gave away their nature as combiners even when separate. Even with one of their number dead, the remaining two could combine into a hovering attack mode.

The trio competed in the [[gladiatorial combat|gladiatorial]] [[Tournament of Champions]] when they encountered Megatronus. He allowed them to [[trans-scan|scan]] a vehicle form before attacking. One emerged from a scrapheap as an all-terrain vehicle with magnetic studded tracks and sought a vantage point on the combat pit's wall, while another sprayed acid on Megatronus's shoulder. Megatronus caught the third Insecticon's multiple, vibrobladed hands and tore an arm off, flinging it into the audience and causing havoc.

Taking fire from the other two, Megatronus made the wounded Insecticon fire his own ion cannon into its neck, killing it in an attempt to ensure there would be no combination. He then slammed the acid-spitter to the floor, but it wriggled away and managed to combine with the ATV, wiring itself into girders while blasting and spitting acid at the gladiator. Megatronus transformed and blasted them, before pinning them down in robot mode and smashing them to pieces with two [[energon mace|maces]]. Megatronus roared "I still function!", as the crowd began chanting a shortened version of his name: Megatron. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

===''Prime'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Frank Welker]] (English), [[Steve Blum|Steven Blum]] (English), [[Kevin Michael Richardson]] (English)}}

[[Image:Prime-insecticon.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Who thinks they can squash me like a bug?]]
An Insecticon was left in stasis on Cybertron, acting as a Decepticon sentry. It was awakened by [[Jack Darby|Jack]] and [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]]'s arrival in [[Kaon]], and began pursuing them. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 2}}

As they used the [[Key to Vector Sigma]] to reveal a hidden passage under the city's arena, the Insecticon attacked. Arcee attempted to distract it so that Jack could escape into the newly-revealed entrance, but she was soundly beaten when it slammed her into the arena wall. The Insecticon then tracked Jack to [[Vector Sigma]], but was horrified to see the supercomputer covered in [[scraplet]]s. Jack hurled one of the scraplets at the Insecticon so that they would stop feeding on Vector Sigma, and the rest of the swarm followed it in attacking the larger beast-bot. The Insecticon was savaged, falling off the bridge into a chasm as it was eaten alive. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 3}}

[[Image:Crossfire Megatron and Insecticon close together.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Megatron put Eradicating Aerosol in his deck for just such an occasion.]]
When [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] was seeking Energon scraps in an old mine, he noticed an Insecticon doing the same, and was surprised that one was on [[Earth]]. Starscream demanded that the Insecticon hand over the Energon it had found, though it instead turned on him and attacked, before [[Airachnid (Prime)|Airachnid]] called it off. Airachnid had managed to control it, due to their being related. Though Starscream suggested that they all team up to end [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]], Airachnid instead ordered the Insecticon to attack him, however he escaped. Sometime later, the Insecticon attacked Megatron as part of Airachnid's trap, refusing to obey him instead. The Insecticon had the upper hand on the Decepticon leader, particularly when Airachnid removed his fusion cannon from the equation, however Megatron eventually triumphed as he beheaded the Insecticon.

However, as the escaped Airachnid discovered, it was only a scout for an entire hive of Insecticons in stasis underground.{{storylink|Crossfire}}

[[Image:Armada-armadasurroundMegatron.jpg|left|thumb|300px|We're going to need a bigger ship.]]
Airachnid awoke the Insecticons after detecting a signal from the ''[[Trypticon (Prime)|Nemesis]]'', and sent most of them to terminate Megatron, while others attempted to protect her from the Autobots who arrived to see what was happening. While [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] eliminated the Insecticons attacking them, Arcee chased down Airachnid and put her in stasis. At that point her control of the Insecticons ceased, and those attacking the ''Nemesis'' stopped and proclaimed their loyalty to Megatron. Then, the ''Nemesis'' crashed for [[Bulkhead (Prime)|some reason]]. {{storylink|Armada (episode)|Armada}}

Now added to the Decepticon ranks, the Insecticons were free to move about the ship. After Megatron used [[Dark Energon]] to bring the ship back online but as a consequence the ship started making its own decisions, Megatron then sent all of the ship's crew, including the Insecticons, to stop the ''Nemesis''. They failed and were stasis locked by the ''Nemesis'''s stasis cannon sweep of the ship. They started recovering after Jack disabled the ship's Dark Energon influence. {{storylink|Flying Mind}}

A single Insecticon went with [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] to watch over the medic as they searched for one of the [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] relics in the [[New York City|Manhattan]] subway. When Arcee and [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] turned up, it easily brought them down. But soon they started fighting back, and the Insecticon pursued Arcee down the tunnel, and eventually the two began clashing. The Insecticon had the upper hand until she managed to get it to come into contact with the electrified third rail on the subway track, frying it. {{storylink|Tunnel Vision}}

[[Image:HardshellTeaser.jpg|right|thumb|250px]]

Megatron entered the chamber occupied by the Insecticons and asked for the fiercest among them to retrieve the fourth Iacon relic. [[Hardshell]] led three other Insecticons to the Earth's equator, and Hardshell's first fight with Bulkhead resulted in defeat. As they continued their mission, one of the Insecticons fell prey to a grenade and some [[Tox-En]]. Hardshell and the others were mislead by a false trail left by Bulkhead, but eventually caught up with the Wrecker at the top of a nearby volcano. He managed to acquit himself well against the trio, finishing off one Insecticon and throwing Hardshell and the Tox-En into the volcano. Hardshell survived his swim and shot Bulkhead in the back as the Autobot was retreating through the [[GroundBridge]]. {{storylink|Toxicity}}

==Games==
===''Fall of Cybertron''===
[[Image:FOC Grimlock vs Insecticons.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Me Grimlock say I squash you like bug.]]
{{comingsoon}}
{{--}}

== Toys ==
=== Generations ===
[[Image:Kickback foc toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px]]
*'''Insecticon Kickback''' (Deluxe Class, 2012)
{{comingsoontoy}}

==Notes==



[[Category:Combiner teams]]
[[Category:Decepticon subgroups]]
[[Category:Gladiators]]
[[Category:Insecticons|Insecticon (Prime)]]
[[Category:Prime subgroups]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron subgroups]]
[[Category:Prime Decepticons]]

Talk:Shake Up

2012-08-14T15:33:04Z

192.249.47.177:

More info for this episode:

The Rescue Bots jump into action when earthquakes hit the island, but their secret identities might be exposed as a result of Frankie capturing their efforts on her camera.

Confirmed by TVGuide

http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/transformers-rescue-bots-2012/episode-23-season-1/shake-up/337860

--[[User:Moreprimeland|Moreprimeland]] 00:15, 8 August 2012 (EDT)

==Captions==
I would like to request a Chop Suey caption, unless we're keeping these child-friendly.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 11:33, 14 August 2012 (EDT)

Unicron (disambiguation)

2012-07-25T18:22:31Z

192.249.47.177: The Unicorns page lists all three of those pretty directly

There are several ideas or concepts in the Transformers franchise involving the name "Unicron", including:

*[[Unicron]], dimension-crossing being of pure evil, and his associated [[Unicron/toys|toys]].

*"[[The Legacy of Unicron!]]", a [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel UK]] comic storyline.

*"[[Unicron Revived!?]]", an episode of ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (cartoon)|Beast Wars Neo]]''.

*"[[Unicron's Ambition]]", another episode of ''Beast Wars Neo''.

*The [[Cybertron-Unicron warp gate]], a mysterious warp gate from the ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]'' cartoon.

*The [[Unicron of Light]], a green energy construct formed by the power of [[Mini-Con|Mini-Cons]].

*[[The Unicron Battles]], the "refresh" of the ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' toyline.

*The [[Unicron virus]], a pathogen which affected Transformers involved in the [[Universe war]].

*"[[Go for Unicron!]]", an episode of ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Transformers: Energon]]''.

*"[[Unicron Unleashed]]", another episode of ''Transformers: Energon''.

*"[[Unicron Perishes]]", '''another''' episode of ''Transformers: Energon''

*The [[Unicron Singularity]], a massive black hole and the focus of the ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Transformers: Cybertron]]'' cartoon.

*The [[Unicron Trilogy]] is a catch-all term encompassing the meta-series ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'', ''[[Transformers: Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'', and ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]''.
*The [[Unicron Trilogy cartoon timeline]] attempts to piece together the cartoon histories of the above franchises.
*The list of [[Unicron Trilogy guidebooks]] attempts to list the publications related to the above franchises.

Unicron is periodically served by:

*The [[Herald of Unicron|Heralds of Unicron]], a group of evil dudes (who are not the [[Blendtron|Blendtrons]], but may or may not include them).
*The [[Unicron cultist|Unicron cultists]], a group of Transformers brainwashed by Unicron. They wear hats shaped like his head!
*The [[Unicrons]], a faction inadvertently created by a [[Rhino Entertainment|Kid Rhino]] packaging blurb.
*[[Unicron's Spawn]], an insult by [[Megatron (BW)|Beast Wars Megatron]] that [[Retcon|retroactively]] grew into ''another'' faction.
*The [[Minion of Unicron|Minions of Unicron]], a group of Transformers from the [[Universe war]].

'''Unicron should not be confused with'''

*[[Grand Galvatron]]
*[[Unicorn]]s

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Cliffjumper (Movie)

2012-07-25T18:06:48Z

192.249.47.177: this spelling is accepted in English

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{{disambig3|Cliffjumper}}
:''Cliffjumper is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|2007 movie franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:ReignofStarscream3 Cliffjumper.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"...But if we wind up in Carbombya, I quit."]]
'''Cliffjumper''' shoots first and asks questions much, much later. The only intelligence he's patient enough to gather is "[[Decepticon]]s were here, and now they're dead." Despite his surly and impetuous nature, however, [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] seems to like him.

==Fiction==
===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
[[Image:Defiance1_Cliffjumper_Bumblebee.jpg|left|thumb|300px|"Ya-ya know? I like you Bumblebee. I think you are alright" *hic*]]

Many, many years ago, Cliffjumper and his look-alike [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] guarded the [[AllSpark]] at [[Simfur]] from nothing in particular. Cliffjumper tried to get his bored friend to calm down when the yellow guy got anxious from just sitting around. Cliffjumper pointed out that, even though they were [[Defense Force]] material, they'd be just as bored in the Defense Force, just doing patrols. If anything, they should relax and let the action come to them.

Cliffjumper rather regretted his words, as [[Ejoornian|hostile aliens]] attacked Cybertron, and the pair were quickly pinned down under heavy fire. Relief finally came in the form of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], who quickly [[Slag (slang)|slagged]] several of the attacking craft. Megatron proceeded to berate the two Autobots for not doing a better job and not taking the fight to the enemy, but received a bad wound from the attackers. When [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] arrived, Megatron told him to keep [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]]'s team out of their way. {{storylink|Defiance issue 1|Defiance #1}}

After the battle, a panicky Bumblebee knew something ''big'' was coming, though Cliffjumper thought that they wouldn't have anything to do with it anyway, as they're only supposed to stand guard at the [[Simfur Temple|temple]]. [[Prowl (Movie)|Prowl]] and [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] came to investigate the attack on the temple, and Cliffjumper reported that they didn't notice any unusual activity from the AllSpark during the battle. Later, presumably all the security personnel were present at the meeting where Optimus asked them not to follow Megatron into war. {{storylink|Defiance issue 2|Defiance #2}}

After Megatron discovered that Optimus, Prowl and Jazz had been snooping about in his quarters, he sent Cliffjumper and Bumblebee along with other expendable security officers under Prowl's command to arrest Optimus on trumped-up charges of treason. What the officers didn't know was they were all marked for death, and on the trip to [[Trypticon (Movie)|Trypticon]], the group was attacked by soldiers loyal to Megatron. The group managed to escape to [[Burthov]] while Optimus stayed behind long enough to defeat the would-be assassins. {{storylink|Defiance issue 3|Defiance #3}}

In the wastes of Burthov, Cliffjumper got the drop on the disenfranchised solder [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]], who had quit Megatron's army in disgust. A brief standoff ensued where Ironhide was confident that his abundant weaponry would ensure Cliffjumper would not harm him, but the younger 'bot noted the cannons were all Ironhide had, and suddenly, his confederates sprung out of the ground to surround the old soldier. Ironhide wasn't in the mood to fight anyway, so the rebels took him to see Optimus '''Prime'''. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4|Defiance #4}} Cliffjumper was in a crowd of Autobots waiting for Optimus Prime's orders after the Decepticons launched the ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]'' into space. {{storylink|Foundation issue 3|Foundation #3}} Sometime later, with the war reaching its peak, Optimus Prime made the decision to capture the AllSpark and launch it into deep space, hopefully sparing Cybertron further devastation and giving his Autobots the breathing room they required. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4|Defiance #4}} Cliffjumper was a crew member of [[Ark (Movie)|Optimus's starship]] when it left Cybertron in pursuit of the AllSpark. {{storylink|The Reign of Starscream issue 1|The Reign of Starscream #1}}

Cliffjumper had returned to Cybertron some time before the year [[1908]], where he participated in a mission to steal [[energon]] from the now Decepticon-controlled Trypticon. His team was ambushed by [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]]'s troops, and though Cliffjumper himself was shot in the chest by Shockwave, he lived to retreat and regroup. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 2|Rising Storm #2}}

[[Image:ReignofStarscream3 Cliffjumper hyah.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Hyoh!]]

After the death of Megatron and the destruction of the AllSpark, Cliffjumper was part of an Autobot assault team on [[Mars (planet)|Mars]] under the command of [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]]. Together with his teammates, he attacked the Starscream's landed Decepticon starship. {{storylink|The Reign of Starscream issue 2|The Reign of Starscream #2}} Cliffjumper and the others made short work of the [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]], [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]], and [[Payload (Movie)|Payload]] drones that the Decepticons sent against them, but were unprepared for [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]]'s sonic weaponry. Cliffjumper and [[Camshaft (Movie)|Camshaft]] attempted to provide cover for [[Smokescreen (Movie)|Smokescreen]] to evacuate the fallen [[Air Raid (Movie)|Air Raid]], but Thundercracker killed Camshaft and wounded Cliffjumper. Saved from certain doom by Arcee, Cliffjumper turned the tides on the Decepticon, only to be shot in the back by Starscream. Arcee attempted to evacuate her wounded comrade, but was struck down by Starscream instead, leaving Cliffjumper's future looking grim. {{storylink|The Reign of Starscream issue 3|The Reign of Starscream #3}}

{{note|Unlike the other Autobots who were clearly shown to have been killed, Cliffjumper's status is ambiguous in the actual fiction. [[Chris Mowry]] says he survived, however.<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/members/mowry-73165.html#vmessage168039</ref> This is further supported in [[Convergence chapter 4]], where [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] only finds two dead Autobots and not four.}}
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===Transformers (2007) toy bios===
The Autobots depend on the brazen Cliffjumper to make the more collected of their enemies so angry that they mess up their own plans. At one point, Cliffjumper targeted [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]], who {{m-}} while physically Cliffjumper's equal or better {{m-}} became extremely annoyed by the fact he could not match Cliffjumper's skill at insults. {{storylink|#Legends class toys|Cliffjumper Vs Recon Barricade}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen'' toy bios===
If [[Dead End (ROTF)|Dead End]] and Cliffjumper weren't on opposite sides, they would get along swimmingly {{m-}} because they're both dysfunctional jerks. As it happens, the extent of their interpersonal relationship involves Dead End trying to creep the short-tempered Cliffjumper out, which typically ends with Dead End getting punched in the face. {{storylink|#Titanium Series|Cliffjumper and Dead End}}

==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
====Legends Class toys====
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[[Image:Movie Legends CliffjumperBarricade toys.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Where's my gun?]]
*'''Cliffjumper Vs Recon Barricade''' (Legends multi-pack, 2007)

: Released as part of the ''AllSpark Battles'' assortment, [[Legends Class]] Cliffjumper is a [[redeco]] of Legends Bumblebee. His alternate mode is a fully licensed 1976 Chevrolet Camaro cast in red plastic with silver racing stripes on his hood. As part of the ''AllSpark Battles'' assortment, he came packed with Legends Class [[Barricade (Movie)|Recon Barricade]], a redeco of the previously released Legends Class Barricade. Even though the packaging for the two-pack features the same elements as the ''[[AllSpark Power]]'' [[subline imprint]], the packaging doesn't explicitly identify it as part of ''AllSpark Power''.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/LegendsCliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm More information on Legends Cliffjumper at TFU.info]

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*'''Cliffjumper''' (Legends, 2008)

: An individually packaged release of the Legends class toy, available in European, Asian and Australasian markets instead of the AllSpark Battles two-pack.
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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:Movie Cliffjumper Deluxe.jpg|right|300px|thumb|First is yellow, now is red, next is white!]]
*'''Cliffjumper''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Accessories'': Blaster cannon/blade

:As part of the ''[[AllSpark Power]]'' refresh of the movie toyline, Cliffjumper is once again a red and silver Bumblebee redeco, this time of the Deluxe Camaro Concept Bumblebee toy and, naturally, transforms into the [[wikipedia:Fifth-generation_Chevrolet_Camaro|concept vehicle for the 2009 Chevrolet Camaro]]. He features two [[Automorph Technology|Automorphing]] gimmicks during transformation: ''(a)'' swinging his hood down into robot mode position also moves his arms up and ''(b)'', swinging his feet down will move the rear fenders up and behind his calves, as well as swinging the rear windows to his inner calves in a spring-loaded action.

: Cliffjumper comes with a plasma cannon that he can hold in either hand. For added play value, the cannon can Automorph into an energy blade by opening up the halves of the gun barrel and swinging them back. Care should be taken when removing the cannon from Cliffjumper's hands, as excessive force can damage the wrist ball joint socket.

: Contrary to popular opinion, the red pieces on the back of Cliffjumper's feet are ''not'' supposed to be heel spurs, and they have ''not'' been mis-assembled. They are supposed to fold up to emulate the detail found on the CGI design for Bumblebee.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/Cliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm More information on Deluxe Cliffjumper at TFU.info]
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====Cyber Slammers====
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[[Image:Movie CyberSlammers Cliffjumper.jpg|right|300px|thumb|This is Red Turbo Ranger, I'm rollin' out!]]
*'''Cliffjumper''' (Cyber Slammer, 2007)

: Part of the fourth wave of [[Cyber Slammers]] toys, Cliffjumper is (natch) a redeco of the concept-Camaro Cyber Slammer Bumblebee. He has motorized action: When you push down on the car, it zooms forward and slowly pops into robot mode!

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Autobot/CySlamCliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm More information on Cyber Slammers Cliffjumper at TFU.info]
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==Merchandise==
===3D Battle-Card Game===
[[Image:3DCard-Cliffjumper.jpg|right|300px|thumb|He'd have jumped that cliff if he hadn't swerved.]]
*'''Cliffjumper''' (3D Battle-Card, 2007)
**''Card number'': '''2'''

: Cliffjumper is a 31-point "Common" piece in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]. Constructed of punch-out pieces from randomly packed plastic cards (two full robots per pack), he can be assembled into his car mode (resembling a BMW Z4) or into a rather stumpy robot mode. One of his blaster-weapons is held in his right hand, the other can mount on either shoulder.

: He uses the same construction as the [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] and [[Smokescreen (Movie)|Smokescreen]] cards. This style is similar to the one used by [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]], [[Earth]]-mode [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], and [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]].

:His card art was done by [[Lucio Parrillo]].
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===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Movie RobotHeroes BestBuy Cliffjumper OptimusPrime.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Dance, red boy, DANCE!]]
*'''Cliffjumper and Optimus Prime''' (Robot Heroes, 2007)

: [[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]] Cliffjumper is a redeco of the first-wave Bumblebee figurine, a non-transforming, super-cute rendition of the character. Origianlly [[exclusive]] to the Best Buy USA release of the [[Transformers (film)/home video|movie DVD release]], along with a battle-damaged version of Robot Heroes [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], Cliffjumper later saw a wider release as part of the 2009 [[blindpacking|blind-packed]] series of ''Robot Heroes''.

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===Titanium Series===
[[Image:ROTF-toy CliffjumperTitanium.jpg|thumb|300px|Wow. He really let himself go after the AllSpark Battles.]]
*'''Cliffjumper & Dead End''' (Two-pack, 2009)
**''Accessories'': Autobot symbol display stand

: A red and black redeco of [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Titanium Series|Bumblebee]] (in his '76 Camaro form), ''[[Titanium Series]]'' Cliffjumper is a non-transforming figurine made of plastic and [[die-cast]] metal. He is sculpted wielding a forearm-mounted weapon, and has articulation in his shoulders, neck and waist. Oh, and he comes with a movie-style Autobot logo base to stand on.

: He was only available in a [[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs]]-[[exclusive]] two-pack with [[Dead End (ROTF)#Titanium Series|Dead End]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2009/Autobot/TitCliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm More information on Titanium Series Cliffjumper at TFU.info]''
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==Notes==
[[Image:MovieCGCliffjumper.jpg|right|250px|thumb|One bee, two bee, red bee, blue bee.]]
* An early [[Industrial Light & Magic|ILM]] test animatic (first seen in Circuit City-exclusive web content, later in the "bonus" section of the official movie website) of Bumblebee in battle had 'Bee facing off against a red doppelganger. Hmmmm.
* Amusingly enough, Cliffjumper's 3D card robot mode is clearly designed after ''[[Transformers: Alternators| Alternators]]'' [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]], though with a few movie-aesthetic concessions thrown in, mostly in the look of the feet. It's ''exceedingly'' likely the names of the two cards got mixed up, as card-game [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]] bears more than a passing resemblance to Bumblebee (and by extension, ''every other version'' of movie Cliffjumper), and Cliffjumper sure seems to be relegated to being a Bumblebee redeco since, well, everything after that [[Cliffjumper (G1)|first toy]]. Except [[Cliffjumper (Armada)|these]] [[Cliffjumper (Energon)|three]] [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|bots]].
* With three toys, a [[Titanium Series|Titanium]] figurine, a [[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]] figurine, and a Battle-Card, Cliffjumper has '''by far''' the most merchandise for a ''Transformers'' movie character not actually appearing IN the film. However, the increased popularity of Bumblebee prevented any further Cliffjumper redecos of Bumblebee toys from the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' lines (with the exception of the ''Titanium'' figure), leading instead to a slew of increasingly insane same-character-in-slightly-varied-colors redecos of Bumblebee.
* Furthermore, between his various toys, he shares two different Camaro alternate modes with Bumblebee. Is this supposed to imply that in a toy-only [[micro-continuity]], he undergoes the ''exact'' same upgrade from a 1976 Chevrolet Camaro into a modern Camaro concept vehicle?
* Cover A of [[The Reign of Starscream issue 5]] by [[Alex Milne]] depicts Cliffjumper among the Autobots in an Earth mode body based on his Deluxe Class toy, despite the fact he never made it to Earth and doesn't even appear in this issue.

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==References==
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==External links==
* [http://www.wizards.com/transformers/ 3D Battle Card Game at Wizards of the Coast]
* [http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/Cliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm Cliffjumper at TFU.info]

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Unicron (disambiguation)

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Cybertonium

2012-07-02T16:36:05Z

192.249.47.177: /* Dark of the Moon film */ cybertonium wasn't mentioned in the movie, so where is that from?

:''Cybertonium is a Cybertronic element from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:DesertionDinobots2 Dinobots Cybertonium.JPG|right|300px|thumb|You can have the Cybertonium by going through the Dinobots. Ask yourself, is it worth it?]]
'''Cybertonium''' is a green, crystalline element found only on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and is used in construction of [[Transformer]] bodies on that planet. Such Transformer bodies use Cybertonium in a manner which depletes it over time, requiring it to be replaced. As the element dwindles within a Transformer's system, its deficiency causes minor malfunctions, such as an inability to fully transform or control one's actions, but if the depletion proceeds past a critical level, it can lead to death. Cybertonium is mined from a [[Cybertonium Pit|pit]] deep in the planet.

While seemingly vital to most Transformers, those with bodies created on other [[Earth|worlds]] do not require the element.

==Fiction==
===''The Transformers'' cartoon===
After fleeing from a battle with the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]] began to suffer minor malfunctions which they attributed to bad [[Energon]]. Attacking a power station to refuel, the Decepticons were confronted by the [[Autobot|Autobots]], but the battle devolved into a stalemate as both sides began to suffer from increasing malfunctions.

As their conditions worsened, [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] concluded that both sides were being affected by Cybertonium depletion. Having also learned the real problem, [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] contacted [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and had him prepare a shipment to be sent over the [[space bridge]]. Both factions sent groups of Transformers created on Earth and thus fully functional, the Dinobots and the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], to retrieve the shipment. Both groups fought and ended up destroying the Cybertonium, with the Dinobots ending up on Cybertron and refusing to assist those on Earth. With the Autobots fading fast, [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]] and [[Carly]], over the objections of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], traveled across the space bridge to get some more Cybertonium. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1}}

Arriving on the homeworld of the Transformers, the human pair avoided Shockwave but damaged the computer controlling the space bridge and prevented even the Decepticons from receiving more of the vital element. Searching [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s lab, Spike and Carly ran into [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]], who explained that the Dinobots had been captured and reprogrammed to work in the Cybertonium Pit. When the humans and Swoop attempted to rescue their friends, they were captured in turn and forced to work in the pit as well. After Carly re-reprogrammed the other Dinobots, the group was able to escape back across the now-repaired space bridge with enough Cybertonium to save their fellow Autobots. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2}}

===''2010'' story pages===

The [[Quintesson]] creation, [[Guiltaur]], was built from the same Cybertonium alloys as [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], making him just as resilient as the [[Autobot]] [[Supreme Commander]]. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010 (story page)|A Mysterious Decepticon Soldier Appears. He is the Colossal Cannon Soldier Guiltaur!}}

===''The Headmasters'' cartoon===
During the Headmasters conflict, [[Vector Sigma]] developed an alloy called [[Cybertonuron]] that was many times stronger than Cybertonium. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}}

===''G-2'' story pages and comics===

Upon his defeat at the hands of [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], the [[Spark|spirits]] of the fallen [[Autobot]] commanders residing within the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] activated the [[Reconfiguration Matrix]] and resurrected [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] as Battle Convoy. Part of his upgraded form was the Cybertonium Sword, which was powerful enough to chop Megatron's [[fusion cannon]] right off his arm. {{storylink|Transformers: G-2 (story page)|Birth of the New Supreme Commander Battle Convoy!}}

===''Dark of the Moon'' film===
[[Optimus Prime (Movie)| Optimus']] [[knuckle-spikes]] are made of this material.{{fact}} {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

==Notes==
*The introduction of Cybertonium throws a spanner in the works for determining the origins of the newer second-season characters such as Perceptor, [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]], etc. Previously, it could be assumed they had simply arrived from Cybertron or some other planet, but the fact that their Cybertonium deteriorates in exact sync with the earlier characters suggests that they were also aboard the Ark and went through the same four-million-year slumber as the 1984 characters. Why we didn't see any of them for the first year is therefore a bit of a mystery within the context of the stories.

*Likewise, it adds to the controversy surrounding the origin of the Constructicons. The fact the group can function and even form [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] would seem to imply they were created on Earth, as seen in "[[Heavy Metal War]]", yet later in season two, "[[The Secret of Omega Supreme]]" states they were originally from Cybertron. If the Constructicons were merely rebuilt on Earth, why can't other Transformers be rebuilt in similar fashion so as not to require Cybertonium?

*The Japanese interpretation of Cybertonium would appear to be different from how it was presented in Western fiction. In Japan, it is treated as an incredibly strong, resilient alloy, with the claim even being made that [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] was built from it, hence his inherent toughness. "Desertion of the Dinobots", however, treats Cybertonium simply as an element needed for Transformers to function, not as any incredibly powerful metal.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Cybertonium''' (セイバートニウム ''seibātoniumu'')

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Knuckle-spikes

2012-07-02T16:35:39Z

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'''Knuckle-spikes''' are weapons used by the Autobot leader, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)| Optimus Prime]]. They retract into his forearms when unneeded and are made from [[Cybertonium]].{{fact}}

==Fiction==
===''Dark of the Moon'' film===
During the battle at [[Chicago]], Optimus used these to weaken the Decepticon known as [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]] by punching him through the abdomen, causing serious damage. Optimus was able to finish him off from there. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)| Dark of the Moon}}

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Doubletap

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Turbine was an unfortunate Autobot.

==Fiction==
===IDW comics continuity===
{{spoiler|Interiors| July 27}}
Turbine was part of the crew of the [[Lost Light]] in search of the mystical [[Knights of Cybertron]] to restore order on their home planet, [[Cybertron (planet)| Cybertron]]. He got shot by an angry [[Fortress Maximus (G1)| Fortress Maximus]] who went on a killing spree on the ship and injured quite a few and killed [[Rung]], a psychiatrist. {{storylink|Interiors}}

Sparkeater (weapon)

2012-07-02T16:33:47Z

192.249.47.177: some cleanup, what's the indication of WMD?

The '''Sparkeater''' is a weapon that can, among other things, administer euthanasia.

==Fiction==
===IDW comics continuity===
{{spoiler|Interiors| July 27}}
The [[Wrecker]],
[[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] attempted to use [[Roadbuster (G1)| Roadbuster]]'s Sparkeater weapon to euthanize [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] when the latter was paralyzed, out of a belief that the former leader of the [[Wrecker]]s was a goner, but he was caught by Roadbuster and castigated.{{storylink|Interiors}}