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Scrapheap (episode)

2011-02-22T16:55:59Z

195.169.205.162:

{{disambig2|the ''Prime'' episode|the Generation 1 Junkion|Scrapheap (G1)}}
{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' ep 7
|prev=Masters & Students
|next=Con Job
|image=PrimeScrapletsEp7.gif
|caption=Aw, look at the cute little—
|title="Scrapheap"
|airdate=[[February 18]], [[2011]]
|written by=[[Marsha Griffin]]
|directed by=[[Shaunt Nigoghossian]]
|animation studio=[[Digitalscape]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
}}

'''While Optimus and Arcee are trapped in the Arctic, the base is invaded by deadly Scraplets.'''

==Synopsis==
Trudging through the [[Arctic]], [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] and [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] locate a huge pod buried in the snow. They take it back to [[Autobot Central Command|base]], where their systems are checked over by [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]]. [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]] asks about the pod, but Ratchet says it can't be opened while it's still frozen. Even as it sits defrosting in another part of the base, the pod cracks open from the inside.

[[Image:Scrapheap-adorableScraplet.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Leprosy was never this adorable. As far as we know.]]

Optimus and [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] prepare to travel to the Arctic to look for more clues regarding the pod's origins, and Ratchet gives them some temperature sensors so they can tell when their core temperatures drop to dangerous levels. The kids arrive in time to see them off, and [[Jack Darby|Jack]]'s initially keen on going with them, until he finds out where they're headed. [[Raf Esquivel|Raf]]'s still interested in seeing some snow, but Optimus says the conditions are too harsh. No sooner have Prime and Arcee stepped through the [[ground bridge]] than the ground bridge system goes down. While the Autobots start trying to repair it, Jack and [[Miko Nakadai|Miko]] start playing video games, and Raf wanders off. He's playing "being in the Arctic" in a corridor when he stumbles on a tiny, cute metal critter. He plays Fetch with it using a bolt...which it promptly eats. Happy with his new pet, he heads back to the control room, unaware that there's a sparking hole in the equipment behind him.

Ratchet's just dug out a damaged ground bridge component when Raf returns with his find. The Autobots react in terror to the tiny critter. The kids are surprised at the reaction to what the Autobots are calling a [[Scraplet]], but then the creature starts chowing down on Bumblebee, and Raf has to beat it to death with a crowbar. Ratchet's suspicions as to the Scraplet's origin are confirmed when they check the Arctic pod and find it's been broken open—thousands of Scraplets now infest the base.

In the Arctic, Optimus and Arcee find their core temperatures have dropped into the danger zone, but Optimus is unable to contact base to request use of the ground bridge.

[[Image:Scrapheap-Ratchetinfected.jpg|right|thumb|250px|[[wikipedia:Botfly|Ro-botflies]]]]

Ratchet discovers that the Scraplets have broken the comm system. Bulkhead's in favor of bugging out, but doing that will mean certain doom for Optimus and Arcee. After hearing Bulkhead's detailed description of what Scraplets can do to a 'bot, the kids volunteer to help. Since the Scraplets aren't interested in eating them, they pair off with the three Autobots, Jack helping Ratchet repair the ground bridge while the others hunt for the Scraplets. Miko and Bulkhead explore the corridors where Raf saw the first Scraplet, and after an embarrassingly girly scream and an encounter with a bunch of overhead cables, Bulkhead is set upon by the little monsters. Elsewhere, Raf and Bumblebee likewise run into a group of the things. Ratchet has meanwhile finished repairing the ground bridge, but it still refuses to function. As he investigates further, a swarm of Scraplets enter the main control room via a vent and begin flying overhead. They attack Ratchet, but Jack uses a nearby fire extinguisher to freeze them off. There are more of the pests flying overhead, however, and as the others return from their search, the Scraplets attack and overwhelm the Autobots.

[[Image:Scrapheap-huddleforwarmth.jpg|left|thumb|300px|And not a tauntaun for miles.]]

While Arcee and Optimus try to keep themselves conscious and functional by talking, the kids manage to eliminate the Scraplets attacking their friends. However, from the sounds elsewhere in the base, it's clear there are many more lurking about. They come up with a plan to send the Scraplets to the Arctic by getting the ground bridge working, and Ratchet works out there must be an [[energon (fuel)|energon]] fuel line breach preventing the system from starting. The three kids take a tool kit and go to fix the breach. They're just finishing when the Scraplets decide it's time for lunch and break into the main control room.

Back in the Arctic, Arcee bemoans the frozen death that apparently awaits her and Optimus, especially after all they've survived so far. Optimus offers what words of philosophical comfort he can, and she says it's an honour to serve with him.

At the base, the kids rush back to the command room and let Ratchet know that the ground bridge is back online. He opens the bridge to the Arctic before collapsing, and Bulkhead acts as bait, leading the Scraplets through. He arrives in the Arctic to see Optimus and Arcee staggering towards the bridge, and the Scraplet horde bursts through behind him. Optimus braces for attack, but the Scraplets rapidly freeze in the air and bounce harmlessly off him.

Back at base, Ratchet supervises repairs on Bumblebee and Bulkhead. He and Optimus pay tribute to the strength of their human allies, but just then Miko spots a spider and runs away screaming.
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==Featured characters==
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* [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] (1)
* [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] (2)
* [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] (3)
* [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] (4)
* [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] (5)

|c3=
* [[Miko Nakadai]] (6)
* [[Jack Darby]] (7)
* [[Raf Esquivel]] (8)

|c4=
* [[Scraplet]]s (9)

}}

==Quotes==
"The Arctic? I've always wanted to see snow." 
"I would invite you to join, Rafael, but the conditions are much too extreme, even for we Autobots." 
"I understand..." 
"But, I will bring you back a snowball."
:—'''Raf''' is snow deprived and '''Optimus''' says things you would not expect a giant alien robot to say.

"Bulkhead, you ''never'' run." 
"Miko, you haven't seen a swarm of these things devour a bot. I ''have''. They pick you apart from the inside out, going for the small juicy bits first, fuse by fuse, circuit by circuit, 'til there's nothing left, and I mean ''nothing''... not even your optics."
:—'''Miko''' gets some nightmare fuel from '''Bulkhead'''.

"I get to be your bodyguard for once. How cool is that?" 
"Raf found the first one here, right?" 
''(lights turn off for a second and Bulkhead screams loudly)'' 
"Did you just scream like a little girl?" 
"No! .... Maybe.... Can we talk about this later?"
:—'''Miko''' and '''Bulkhead''' searching, and a more hilarious reversal of roles cannot be found.

"What do you suggest...wait, how about a game? Let's play 'Who Screwed Things Up Back at Base'." 
"Our predicament could be the result of a simple malfunction." 
"Caused by Bulkhead."
:—'''Arcee''' and '''Optimus''' prove that when things go wrong, blame it on Bulkhead.

"Bulkhead may be...too large for this world. But his inner strength is without bounds. One should not be measured by size alone."
:—'''Optimus''' gives us a life lesson while finding a nice way to call Bulkhead fat.

"Ready for the main course? Come and get it!"
:—'''Bulkhead''', king of one-liners.

"I'd invite you in, but the place is a mess."
:—Seriously, give '''Bulkhead''' a crown.

"We're just fortunate that this infestation happened...on a Saturday."
:—'''Ratchet''' finds there's an upside to having human companions.

==Notes==
===Animation or technical errors===

===Continuity errors===
*When Jack, Miko and Raf reach the damaged energon fuel line, the breach on the duct is shown beneath, where the energon is seen dripping. When the kids seal the duct, they are shown doing so only on its side.

===Transformers references===
*To everyone's surprise, these Scraplets behave similar to their [[Scraplet|namesakes]], but are closer in appearance to [[Mecannibal]]s.
*Bumblebee's interest in video games isn't unlike another [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]]'s; indeed, we previously saw him and Raf playing this same racing game in "[[Darkness Rising, Part 3]]".
*Arcee mentions Bulkhead running into power lines shortly after arriving on Earth, which recalls a different [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]]'s [[Transformers (2007)|"tingly" encounter]].
*At the episode's conclusion, Bumblebee is hooked up to an "electro-pulse" monitor, a feature of Transformer biology that got its first and only previous mention waaaay back in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1]] cartoon episode, "[[Divide and Conquer]]", when [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] declared his to be fading.

===Foreign dubbing===

===Real-world references===
* A [[wikipedia:dolly zoom|dolly zoom]] happens when Raf realizes the Scraplet is attacking Bumblebee.
* Ratchet remarks the Scraplet's bites on Bumblebee's are "[[Wikipedia:Black Knight (Monty Python)|just a mesh wound]]".
* The initial search for the scraplets is called a "[[Wikipedia:Aliens (film) | bug hunt]]"

===Trivia===
*Raf never did get that snowball. Guess Optimus was too busy dying to scoop some up.
*This is the first episode which doesn't feature the [[Decepticon]]s.
*It is not an error that the Autobots can freeze in the [[Arctic]] but not in space. The idea that being in space will immediately freeze you up like a popsicle is a [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceIsCold lie perpetuated by bad science fiction]. This isn't the [[Fire in the Sky|first time]] [[Megatron (Movie)|it's happened]].
*Bulkhead [[Sentinel_Prime_(Animated)|is not the only Autobot]] with a "girlish scream".

==Home video releases==

==External links==

[[Category:Prime episodes]]

Talk:Vehicon (Prime)

2010-12-12T23:10:26Z

195.169.205.162: /* Heads? */ new section

== Drones? ==

What makes these guys drones? So far in the cartoon they seem to be generic Decepticons. Who don't talk much. Also, where is their name from? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:16, 27 November 2010 (EST)
:They were named in the comic, if I recall correctly. If they're ''not'' drones, the Autobots sure don't seem to have too many qualms about killing them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:18, 27 November 2010 (EST)
:Starscream refers to them as drones in the second episode. Not sure if he's just referring to the miners or not though. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:35, 27 November 2010 (EST)
::"The drones have been mining in you absence." The drones pictured mining were far away, but didn't seem to have the same silhouette as the Eradicons. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:44, 27 November 2010 (EST)

== Heads? ==

May be just me, but do the combat and mining variants have different helmets?
The combat ones have helmets like in War For Cybertron, shaped like a T, and the miners have Dead Space-ish stripes.
Anyone else noticed?

-ThiAthEhn

Leader (WFC)

2010-07-07T22:14:11Z

195.169.205.162: intercooler support abilities, not ammo, that's for soldiers

{{factions|autobot|decepticon}}
:''Leader is a class from [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron's]] multiplayer mode.''

[[Image: Leadersclass.jpg|350px|thumb|right|I hope you like playing as Soundwave.]]

As a '''leader''', you bring a balance of mind and muscle to your team. Leaders carry an array of top-notch artillery and can buff themselves and their teammates with defensive abilities. In vehicle mode, they attack with unguided rockets and the reinforced bumper of their truck forms.

==Characteristics==
''Life bar: 5''
===Chassis===
'''Autobot'''
*Heavy Rig ([[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]])
*Medic Rig ([[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]])
*Armored Rig ([[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]])
'''Decepticon'''
*Spy Rig ([[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]])
*??? ([[Onslaught (Prime)|Onslaight]], DLC)

===Weapons===
Leaders can equip two of these four weapons:
*[[Ion blaster]]
*[[Energon battle pistol]]
*[[Magma frag launcher]]
*[[Fusion cannon]]
They use energon axes in melee and carry [[Thermo mine|thermo mines]], but only after certain conditions are met (see upgrades).

===Abilities===
Leaders can eventually choose two from four different abilities:
*Warcry: Increase your and your allies' damage and armor for a while.
*Barrier: Deploys an Energon Shield Barrier (flat rectangular wall that eventually dissipates). (Level 1)
*Moleculon Bomb: Deploys a bomb that slows enemies and then explodes. (Level 2)
*Disruption: Forces victim to change form and locks them there for a while. (Level 5)
Vehicle mode:
*Ram: Hit enemies with your face.

===Upgrades===
Leaders can eventually choose up to three upgrades to augment their abilities: 
'''First Tier'''
*Roll Out: Increases Ram damage. (Level 1)
*Rally: Increases Warcry's radius. (Level 3)
*Duck and Cover: Causes residual damage to enemies near a Moleculon Bomb. (Level 7)
*No Surrender: Warcry's effect lasts longer. (Level 10)
*Corrode: Victims of Disruption take damage. (Level 17)
*Rage: Warcry buff increases. (Level 23)
'''Second Tier'''
*Flak Armor: Reduces explosion damage. (Level 2)
*Empowered Shields: Increases health of Energon Shield Barrier. (Level 5)
*Martyrdom: Drops Thermo Mines in inventory when killed. (Level 8)
*Chaos Master: Disruption lasts longer. (Level 13)
*Ion Booster: Teammates near Moleculon Bomb receive speed boosts. (Level 19)
*Reserve Power Cells: Gain ability to shoot for a while after being killed. (Level 24)
'''Third Tier'''
*Weapon Stabilizer: Reduces weapon kickback. (Level 6)
*Seeker: Increases Thermo Mine search radius. (Level 6)
*Blaster Amplifier: Grants two extra ammo clips. (Level 9)
*First Aid: Decreases health regeneration delay. (Level 15)
*Explosive Capacitor: Grants one extra grenade. (Level 21)
*Rapid Recharge: Reduces ability recharge time. (Level 25)

===Killstreaks===
After killing enough guys without dying, every class can use special abilities. The leaders' are:
*Intercooler (3 kills): Greatly reduces ability recharge time.
*P.o.K.E. 2.0 (5 kills): Makes your melee attack explosive (also, you get to hear [[Peter Cullen]] say "[[Punch of Kill Everything]]").
*Thermo Mine Re-Spawner (7 kills): Spawns a trail of Thermo Mines.

==External Links==
*[http://www.transformersgame.com/#/game/classes Activision's official Multiplayer Class page]

[[Category: Video game-only characters]]
[[Category: War for Cybertron]]

Talk:Brute (WFC)

2010-07-07T22:11:03Z

195.169.205.162:

They also carry grenade/rocket launchers in their right hands, only used when you are unreachable to them. Please add that. -ThiAthEhn
:There's no reason why you can't do it yourself. The page isn't protected or anything. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 14:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
:: You can probably do it better, I just brought it up. -ThiAthEhn

Talk:Ion blaster

2010-06-30T17:28:09Z

195.169.205.162: /* War For Cybertron */ new section

Does it matter to this article that [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/EarlyUS-UKGenerics.jpg the model of Optimus Prime's gun is not unique]? (Or apparently Megatron's, for that matter.) --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 05:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

== War For Cybertron ==

Eh, Megatrons model is a soldier, not a leader. Hence, you can't equip the ion blaster by default (Although you can give the Fusion Cannon to Optimus' mold.) However, you could, in theory, pick up an ion blaster from a fallen Leader.

Talk:Brute (WFC)

2010-06-30T17:18:12Z

195.169.205.162: New page: They also carry grenade/rocket launchers in their right hands, only used when you are unreachable to them. Please add that. -ThiAthEhn

They also carry grenade/rocket launchers in their right hands, only used when you are unreachable to them. Please add that. -ThiAthEhn

Talk:Optimus Prime (WFC)

2010-06-30T13:10:59Z

195.169.205.162:

This disambig tag fills me with glee. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 13:12, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:Though why people find this funny confuses me. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:22, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::I just imagine [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] saying it, it. Or would that be Optimus Prime (Prime), (Prime)? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:34, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

I guess the archivist thing is from Exodus? 'cause in the WfC game he instead mentions having been a dock worker.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 14:44, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::When did he mention that? I honestly don't remember him saying that, but my memory is not exactly something to go on. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:06, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:::It's during the in-game banter, I'd say during the second autobot chapter but could be the third. If memory serves, a teammate voices his approval of Optimus' taking matters in his own hands and acting like a leader and Optimus retorts as soon as the war's over he'll go back to working at the docks. [[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 03:47, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
: Yay, more inconsistencies! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:46, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::And I thought nothing could be more inconsistent with established continuity than AHM. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 15:49, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:::And is it 100 percent certain the Optimus in WFC and the one in Prime will be the same guy, cause I've been tracking the news, and beyond a lot of speculation and vague suggestion, nothing seems confirmed [[Special:Contributions/148.197.8.240|148.197.8.240]] 00.01 30 Jube 2010
::::Everyone at Hasbro sure seems to think so. ''Exodus'', which is written apparently from the ''Prime'' show backstory, includes the events of WFC loosely within its second half. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:11, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::Even if they're not in the exact same universe, they're certainly in the same continuity family, so they'd get the same page. Just as Sunbow Prime and IDW Prime are both on the G1 page.[[User:Kaje|Kaje]] 19:31, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::And there are others. Well, I haven't read Exodus but based on the summary on this wiki it's more like two different stories that reach the same end point. For one, in WfC Optimus doesn't become a Prime at the beginning of the war, but after Zeta's death, mere days before the evacuation. And the Matrix is introduced in a completely different way, possibly doesnt even ''exist'' until the end of chapter 8. [[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:29, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Exodus tries to have it both ways. Once you get to the end of the book and Sentinel dies, Optimus gets the Matrix then, and Alpha Trion notes that Prime wasn't truly a Prime until this moment, regardless of what the council said. So he was dubbed a Prime by the council at the beginning, but it wasn't really true until just before they left Earth. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:34, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Yeah, I guess it's an honorable fix, yet still doesn't mesh, mind you. In the game it's mentioned Optimus first refused to be a Prime, which is why he doesn't have the title (whether or not this landed Zeta the job is unclear since the way they word it at times I may almost think they could have several Primes at once) and the Matrix is unrelated to the Council and the Prime title they bestow.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:42, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

In the game, it's Optimus, not Orion Pax. Does the book override the game, or vice versa?
-ThiAthEhn

Talk:Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)

2010-06-28T20:59:42Z

195.169.205.162:

== G1 Characters ==

Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)

:There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)

== It does seem like a seperate continuity ==

I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?
:Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say "assumption" isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)
:::The TFW2005 interview states it's "not connected to any particular generation" and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)
::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)
:::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)
::::::How about "WFC"? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]
:::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using "WFC" to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)
:::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview "Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe." The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying "Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not," or vice-versa "anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?" A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. "Its prehistory is very slightly different" will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)
:[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)
By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than "influenced by it" I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010

== The New trailer ==

should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)
: The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)
:: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]
preety much.

== Logos ==

I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)
: No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)

== Starscream? ==

Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the "Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault" picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)
: He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)
::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010
Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)

== Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==

So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]
::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)

We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)
: It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)
::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::: I'd say more "Classics-ized" versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)

== Fresh trailer guys ==

http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage

Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.

ThiAthEhn
: Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)

Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...
ThiAthEhn
: Third link in "external links" at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)

==Character Sources?==
I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)
: For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)

==Release date==
Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)
sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

== Motormaster ==

Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version:
http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg

Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html
: I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)

== Interview and more gameplay and footage ==

http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story

Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.

-Aaron Archer

-It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.

-Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?

-And much more...

ThiAthEhn

== No PSP option... ==

Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

== [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==

I think its a "revised"
backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

== Voice actor thing ==

I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending "false" information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
:The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.
:So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
:::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with "AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego" and "Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]". Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not "We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia." --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with "idiots" over "cover-up". --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)
:Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)

== New Characters' pages? ==
VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?
: We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)
::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)

VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}

:The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out "Oops, they're part of G1" and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)

VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}
:I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

== Jazz? ==

The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave

== Image Captions/Quotes ==

So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?

And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.

''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''

Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved

[[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)
:By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)
::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same "gritty dark" feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: "Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little." Omega Supreme's picture: "Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off." Megatron: "I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered." Bumblebee: "Little people first!"
::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, "What would you have your Arbiter do?" [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)

== New characters ==

Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the "embargo" pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)
:Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)

== So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==

[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
:I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)
:::"Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS..." So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)

== For now... ==

...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)
:I'm beginning to wonder if the "G1 continuity family" is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't "terribly G1y" in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== Division by Game? ==

At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as "one single game" would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
:I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
:Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)

== Matt Tieger Says... ==
I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is "like a prequel to G1." http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers
So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
:I think the keywords is that he used "like a" on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
:: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== DS Version ==

Source for all of these "DS-only" guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
: People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
:: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

==Box Art==

I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

==

== I know some missons! ==

I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.
:Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
yes,
confirmed misson names are
defend iacon,
death of hope,
the final guardian,
fuel of war,
iacon destroyed,
false propaganda,
decagon plaza
these are a few confirmed missons
:Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
Confirmed by high moon.
:Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.

==James Remar==
So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
: I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

== Profiles? ==

Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
: They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. "official website character profiles." Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.
::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).
::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

==Name?==

Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as "Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime"? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name "that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.") {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010
:I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones "Destroyers," but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
::I had assumed "Destroyer" was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.
== DS Profile Pictures ==

Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.
--[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)

== Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==
In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)
:I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.
::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]
I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010

== Maybe its time for a cleanup ==

The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.
:I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]
:::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]
:::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)

== Advice on writing up the weapons.==
I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
:I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Nefarious issue 1

2010-03-18T23:08:34Z

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Any suggestions for good images?
I'd say the group shot of the "cassettes", Breakaway's death and Alice driving. {{ThiAthEhn|195.169.205.162 }}
:Let's just see what images we use for other pages and put them here. Why go out of our way to make separate images just for the issue page? Let's not get ahead of ourselves. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:14, 18 March 2010 (EDT)
:: Pretty much an overdose of free time, so why not make em? But if you think they should be placed on the individual pages, thats fine with me.
-ThiAthEhn

AllSpark (Movie)

2010-03-18T18:42:07Z

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{{disambig3|Allspark}}
:''The AllSpark is an object from the [[Live-action film series|live-action]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Allspark movie.jpg|right|350px|thumb|[[Wikipedia:Lemarchand's box|It will tear your soul apart]]. Just ask [[:Image:Megatron_allspark_merge.JPG|Megatron]].]]

The '''AllSpark''' is a physical object of mysterious origin. A large, metallic cube, it is inscribed with [[Cyberglyphics|ornate runes]] and is responsible for creating [[energon (fuel)|energon]], a [[Thirteen original Transformers|race of dimension-hoppers]], the [[Transformer]] race and the planet of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] itself. Sources say it was created by a nameless power for a reason, but that reason is as yet unknown... <ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Timeline.cfm Hasbro timeline]</ref>

{{bigquote|Before time began, there was... the Cube. We know not where it comes from, only that it holds the power to create worlds and fill them with life. That is how our race was born.|[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] on the origins of [[Transformer|his race]]|''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]}}

{{note|Sources other than [[Transformers (2007)|the first movie]] use the parsing "AllSpark" (one word, rather than two) to refer to the object.}}

:''Hungarian name:'' '''Örök Szikra''' (translates roughly to "Ever-spark")
:''Polish name:'' '''Wszechiskra''' (Allspark)
:''Russian name:'' '''Iskra''' ("The Spark")

==Fiction==

===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===

The AllSpark's origins are unknown. What is known is it was responsible for creating Cybertron and a race of powerful entities, the [[Thirteen original Transformers|Thirteen Primes]]. The Primes soon discovered the All Spark's vast power was finite, and they were at a loss on how to restore it. Fate intervened when a nearby star went nova, repowering the AllSpark. The Primes could travel dimensions, but they needed help harvesting and locating stars. The All Spark responded when it created a new race of helpers, the Transformers, robots who could change their forms. Transformers called [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seekers]] had the ability to travel into interstellar space and sought out suitable suns. [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Other Transformers]] constructed [[Solar Harvester|harvester]]s which enabled the collection of such energy, and this energy would in turn repower the All Spark. The [[Dynasty of Primes]], as the entities and their descendants were known, lead the Transformers and searched the galaxy for stars to harvest.

Knowing the destructive capabilities of the harvesters, the Dynasty of Primes tempered their search with the rule to never destroy a star with a life bearing world. The AllSpark then formed a key to activate the Harvesters, the [[Matrix of Leadership]], which the Dynasty protected. One day, the Dynasty and their attendants were building a star harvester on [[Earth|a world]] when they discovered that it was inhabited by [[Human|primitive but sentient creatures]]. Twelve of the Primes upheld their rule of sparing life, but one of the Primes despised the creatures as insects and had been thinking dark thoughts of seizing the All Spark for himself. The Prime betrayed his brothers and was forever known as [[The Fallen]]. In the battle that followed, Transformer fought Transformer for the first time. Eleven of the Thirteen were killed, but the sole survivor stole the Matrix and hid it in a tomb made of the bodies of the dead Primes, giving his life to seal the Tomb. Returning to Cybertron, The Fallen massacred the rest of the Dynasty and destroyed the [[Sarcophagus|sarcophagi]] of his brothers to prevent their return, but the traitorous Prime was in turn sealed in his own sarcophagus by the spirits of his brothers. A single orphan was hidden away from The Fallen, unaware of his lineage. With the Dynasty of Primes destroyed, the Transformers became the sole inhabitants of Cybertron. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen Movie Adaptation issue 3}} {{storylink|Defiance issue 4}}

The Transformers were unaware of their predecessors or the AllSpark's origin, but to them the AllSpark was the source of life, and that was all that mattered. In return for this act of creation and the continued sustaining of Cybertron, the Transformers tended to the All Spark and kept it safe. Under the reign of [[Science Division]] leader [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]] and [[Defense Force]] leader [[Megatron (Movie)|Protector Megatron]], the Transformers flourished. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 1|Prime Directive issue 1}} The peace ended when the Fallen's sarcophagus was dug up, causing the AllSpark to give off pulses, attracting the attention of a hostile alien species who attacked Cybertron. This led to an increasingly darker Megatron {{storylink|Defiance issue 1}} to be tempted by the Fallen into trying to seize the power of the AllSpark. At the same time, Optimus and his science division discovered that Optimus was somehow connected to the Dynasty of Primes.

Now ''Lord'' of Cybertron, Megatron went rogue with his own army, the [[Decepticon]]s, branding those who followed Optimus traitors. {{storylink|Defiance issue 3}} Optimus, now dubbed Optimus [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] formed his own army, the [[Autobot]]s, to counter Megatron. In the war that followed, Cybertron was decimated, and eventually Optimus was forced to capture the AllSpark to keep it out of enemy hands. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4}} The Autobots fought valiantly, but the Decepticons quickly gained ground.

Eventually, Prime made the decision to launch the AllSpark blindly into space. At Optimus Prime's orders, [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] and a group of Autobots served as decoys, drawing the Decepticons—who thought they had the All Spark—to [[Tyger Pax]], far enough away from the artifact's true location to buy Prime the time needed to prepare the launch. Megatron himself took a personal hand in the torture of Bumblebee, attempting to force him to reveal the All Spark's location, but his efforts went in vain, and the All Spark was blasted into space to put it beyond Megatron's reach. In response, Megatron crushed Bumblebee's voice box and began to follow the AllSpark into deep space. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 1|Prime Directive issue 1}}

Once launched into space, the AllSpark would seek out on its own the location of a harvester. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4}}

===Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' comics===
The AllSpark was not merely launched blindly into space, however—its trajectory was leading it directly towards the [[Alkaris Anomaly]], a wormhole that could potentially transport the cube to an infinite number of locations in the universe. Briefly delayed by an Autobot tractor beam, Megatron could not stop the cube from entering the wormhole, and instead chose to follow it into the anomaly. While the AllSpark was disgorged somewhere in the vicinity of the Sol system, to eventually crash on Earth, Megatron was deposited by the wormhole in some other, far off star system, leaving him to hunt for the Cube through the endless reaches of space. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2|Prelude: Megatron}}

[[Image:Titan5_digitalghosts.JPG|right|250px|thumb|Ancient spirits of evil... Transform this decayed form into MUMM-RA! THE EVER-LIVI oh wait right wrong series.]]
Later on, a space-travelling [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] would be captured by an alien craft—its inhabitants appeared to be immense entities that claimed the AllSpark had been stolen from them, and did a psychic probe of Ironhide. They turned out to be "electrical ghosts", a digital imprint from another time kept alive by the photon-rich atmosphere; the ship was a derelict, salvaged by another (rather feeble) alien race that had been using these ghosts as a front. The ship contained a device attuned to AllSpark energy though, making it clear the original inhabitants ''did'' have some connection to the AllSpark... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 5|Lost In Space 3: Ironhide}}

When it turns human non-sentient mechanical devices into Transformers, the AllSpark energy within them forms into small, red AllSpark cubes; these can be removed and placed into other things. [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] used this to make zombie Decepticons. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 7|Starscream's Militia}} It can also [[Eco-structuring|cyberform]] planets. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 1}}

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When Megatron claimed the AllSpark, he both used it to transform Earth into a new Cybertron {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 5}} and personally bonded with it, being able to channel its power. [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] was forced to destroy it to stop it. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 13|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 5}} However, a fragment survived: due to the nature of the Cube, it could end up possessing the same power as the original AllSpark. However, there was a risk that Megatron's link to it has corrupted the Cube. Ratchet was assigned to guard it {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 14|Aftermath Part 1}} but eventually weakened and decided to use the fragment to revive [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]]—who was reborn as an amoral villain, proving the fragment had been indeed corrupted. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 16|Dark Spark}}

On the dying Cybertron, [[Stockade (Movie)|Stockade]] and his small band of Decepticons sent out a signal into deep space in the hope of contacting any entity related to the AllSpark, and drawing it to Cybertron so it could revive the planet. They succeeded; unfortunately, the entity was [[Unicron|not a nice one at all]] {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 18|Return to Cybertron: Part 2}} and possessed the entire planet before it was finally stopped.

===''Transformers'' (2007) movie===
[[Image:Movie All Spark Hoover Dam.JPG|left|250px|thumb|The true power behind Ernő Rubik's success.]]

The AllSpark was found in 1913, 16 years after the [[Non-Biological Extraterrestrial|N.B.E.]]-01 "[[Megatron (Movie)|Iceman]]" was found, though carbon dating tests indicated that Cube landed on Earth some twelve thousand years earlier. The [[Cybertronian languages|glyphs]] on the Cube were similar to the ones on the Iceman, indicating a link between the two. In order to hide the cube's energy signature from other humans and, potentially, from other N.B.E.s, the [[President of the United States|President]] had the [[Hoover Dam]] built around it. The Iceman was also moved to the dam for further study. It was eventually determined that the Cube emitted a radiation which could [[Allspark Mutation|bring mechanical devices to life]].

Years later, when Megatron eventually came back online due to the intervention of his soldiers, [[Sam Witwicky]] convinced Sector Seven (with the help of Captain [[William Lennox]]'s men) to release Bumblebee, explaining he could help. [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] interacted with the cube and prompted it to collapse from an enormous monolith into a object less than half a meter across, and accordingly lesser in mass as well as volume. Bumblebee and a military escort, soon joined by the [[Autobot|Autobots]], took the Cube to [[Mission City]], where Sam ran through the city avoiding the Decepticons. Along the way, Sam stumbled, and the AllSpark released a wave of [[energon radiation]] which animated several nearby machines into [[Allspark Mutation|living robots]]. During the battle between Optimus Prime and Megatron, the Autobot leader told Sam to merge the Cube with his [[spark]].

[[Image:Megatron allspark merge.JPG|right|200px|thumb|More fibers and less All Spark in your diet prevent Spark attack.]]
However, Sam instead merged it with Megatron's spark, destroying both Megatron and the All Spark. Gazing at his dead brother for one last time, Optimus fished a fragment of the All Spark out of Megatron's chest.

Without a means to restore their homeworld, the Autobots elected to remain on Earth, and Prime sent a message to inform the surviving Autobots of their new found home. {{storylink|Transformers (2007)|''Transformers''}}
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===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
A month after the events in Mission City, the Autobots went to a secret [[Sector Seven]] facility located in the [[Nevada]] desert to escort the remains of the deactivated Decepticons. When the AllSpark shard pulsed with energy near Megatron's corpse, Optimus Prime feared the worst and handed it to [[Professor Vine]] for safekeeping. After the Autobots left, [[Seymour Simmons|Agent Simmons]] convinced Vine to take the shard into their underground facility, since to keep it in the open would only attract Decepticons, though Vine had misgivings considering the stasis-locked [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]] was also in the same facility. Optimus Prime, feeling something was wrong, ordered Ironhide and Bumblebee to go back to the Nevada facility to retrieve the AllSpark fragment. As Simmons and Vine are moving the relic into secure storage, it suddenly flies out of their hands and onto Wreckage's chest, reactivating the very angry Decepticon and Sector Seven's own [[Landmine (Movie)|L.M.-1 units]]. During Wreckage's rampage, Vine was convinced that they had to find the shard before it caused more havoc, but he was caught in the blast of Starscream's attack on his fellow Decepticon and killed. {{storylink|Alliance issue 2}}

In the aftermath of the attack, Simmons was more interested in finding the fragment of the AllSpark than mourning the death of Vine. [[Salani]] retrieved the All Spark ahard from the rubble and returned it to Optimus Prime. Eventually, the Autobots and the American military entered into a [[NEST|formal alliance]] to defend Earth. The AllSpark fragment was stored in a bunker under their base on the island of [[Diego Garcia]]. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 3}}

After the events of Revenge of The Fallen, the mysterious group known as [[Initiative]] is attempting to recreate the AllSpark

===''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===
According to [[The Fallen]], the Cube so venerated by the Transformers was merely a vessel. When Sam Witwicky destroyed the Cube to kill Megatron, he unknowingly absorbed the knowledge of the AllSpark, lying dormant within his mind.

[[Image:ROTF Reedman steals shard.jpg|thumb|right|250px|"You got a Piece of Heart!"]]
After listening to a conversation between NEST and General [[Morshower]], [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] sent [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] and [[Reedman]] to retrieve the All Spark fragment from [[Diego Garcia]]. [[Scalpel]] used it on Megatron when he dived to the [[Laurentian Abyss]] to resurrect him.

However, the shard in NEST's custody was not the only surviving piece of the All Spark. When Sam Witwicky began packing for [[Princeton University]], a sliver of the AllSpark fell out of the hoodie he wore during the battle of Mission City. Not only did it create the [[Appliancebot]]s, but it also began to flood [[Cyberglyphics]] into Sam's mind and awaken the knowledge stored within him. Sam only realized this after his disastrous first day of class, and asked Mikaela to bring the fragment to him. Sam and Mikaela later used the fragment to revive [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]], who was slumbering in the Smithsonian. {{Storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie adaptations===

Sam became a new vessel for the AllSpark, transferring its knowledge from the Cube's remains to him. It lay dormant in his mind for two years, inadvertently increasing his intelligence and getting him a scholarship to [[Princeton]], and was only activated when he discovered the Cube shard from his shirt. When Megatron killed Sam, the information was transferred to the [[Matrix of Leadership]], which was created by the AllSpark, effectively replacing the Cube as its physical form. After the death of the Fallen, Optimus Prime recovered the Matrix, reclaiming the history of the Transformers. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen Movie Adaptation issue 3}} {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (novel)}}

==Games==
===Transformers: Autobots/Decepticons===
Throughout both games, the Autobots and Decepticons are racing to Hoover Dam to recover the AllSpark and Megatron's frozen body from Sector 7 control. As the Cube is approached, it creates drones from nearby equipment to defend itself, finally explaining the aggressive tendencies of the robots created on Earth.

In the ''Autobots'' ending, Create-a-Bot smashes Megatron in the chest with the cube, finally ending his god-mode and opening him up for attack, but in the process sacrifices himself so that Optimus Prime can finish the Decepticon leader once and for all.

Basically, the ''Decepticons'' version ends the same, but with the evil [[Steve Blum|Blum]]-bot attacking Starscream so that Megatron can destroy the traitor. Unlike the Autobots version, however, Starscream seems largely unharmed, if not empowered. This doesn't end well for Create-A-Bot OR Starscream, though, as Megatron still destroys his former second-in-command, then kills the newbie for being "weak." {{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons}}
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==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
*Various AllSpark Power toys

:A small version of the All Spark was available with Japanese versions of the [[AllSpark Power]] toys.

==Merchandise==
* '''All Spark Cube with candy''' (2007)

: A small transparent cube filled with yummy life-giving candy pieces.

* '''Allsparks cubes''' (2007)

: 4 sticker-labeled plastic folding party favor/puzzle Allsparks {{sic}} cubes that can be opened and stacked in different configurations to complete images of the Movie Transformers. Created by DesignWare, a subsidiary of the American Greetings greeting card company. (Says it all, doesn't it?)

===Transformers (2007)===
*'''All Spark Cube''' (2007)

:Released by Popbox Collectibles, this 1:4 scaled, 7cm paperweight replica of the All Spark is made from die-cast metal. It also comes with a small 3x3x2cm square perspex base.

===Revenge of the Fallen===
*'''Rubik's Cube Allspark Edition''' (2009)

:Originally slated to be released in 2008, this item was held back and was instead released in new packaging as part of the [[Milton Bradley]]'s ''Revenge of the Fallen'' merchandise line. While it comes in the standard Rubik's Cube colors, the cube itself is cast in light grey plastic and the patterns seen on the movie All Spark are printed on the colored facets, as well as an Autobot and Decepticon sigil on the white and yellow faces, respectively. This actually makes this version harder than the original Rubik's Cube, as the center faces must be properly aligned so that the patterns match up correctly. It comes with a grey stand with [[Vacuum metallizing|vacuum metallization]] on one of the three embossed Rubik's logos.

==Trivia==
*The movie's AllSpark was derived from hybridizing the concepts of [[Vector Sigma]] and the [[Matrix of Leadership]], but the term "Matrix" was off limits because of the movie of the same name. Optimus Prime's description in the movie intro would suggest it also bears similarities to a [[Cyber Planet Key]] from Transformers Cybertron. Being the object that brought robotic life to Cybertron would also make it comparable to the Key to Vector Sigma of Generation One.
*It was designed as a big cube because, in the original screenplay, it was going to be called the "[[Energon cube|Energon Cube]]" instead. Lip service to the original name was paid in the sequel by identifying it as Cybertron's main source of energon.
*The AllSpark also bears no small resemblance in form and function to the [[Underbase]], in that it's a giant cube-shaped object with remarkable powers that was launched from Cybertron in order to keep it out of Megatron's hands, and then flew aimlessly through space for millions of years.
*By stating Cybertron and the Transformers were created by the All Spark, the movie retcons the retcon that [[Primus]] is Cybertron & the source of Transformer life across all [[Continuity|continuities]]. Unless, that is, the AllSpark is Primus' proxy or means through which he acts.
* In July 2007, several items from the [[Transformers (2007)|2007 movie]] were auctioned off on e-bay including the 'Hero' AllSpark prop used for closeups, with the money benefiting the [[wikipedia:Fisher House (medicine)|Fisher House Foundation]], a living facility attached to many US Military Hospitals. The auction collected 99 bids and the prop was sold for US $20,100.
* Before ''Revenge of the Fallen'', ''[[Transformers The Game]]'' identified energon as being the power produced by the Cube.

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Talk:Arcee (Movie)

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You know, I was going to ask if there was someway to put a line in about her movie form not being pink, but now...I don't know, what with the picture up there. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 23:51, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Has this this bit -- "due to backlash about her not being from G1. (Yes, yes, we know.)" -- actually been stated as the reason she was replaced? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 00:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:Fan backlash is one of two or three reasons cited by the writers in one of their BotCon panels (and presumably earlier as well). The "not G1" part in particular is probably exaggeration. There definitely are isolated instances of fans claiming that movie/post-movie isn't G1, but I doubt that is a "reason" for her having been pulled. The note should probably be rephrased for accuracy, since the exaggeration isn't obviously in jest. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
::I could certainly see backlash regarding Arcee being used in place of an earlier character. Yes, she's a G1 character, but if you have a limited number of autobots she's not exactly everyone's first or even second choice. I do also remember a bit of kerfuffle about one of the producers being asked about Arcee and commenting that she's the one that turns into a motorcycle. So there might have been an impression that he only knew of the Energon version.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 15:36, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Interestingly, *nobody* has yet pointed out that Movie Arcee makes no sense 'as a concept.' She'd be *tiny.* Like, the same size as Scorpy or a large Frenzy. [[User:207.255.86.198|207.255.86.198]] 14:04, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
: 1) Scorponok's the size of a car.
: 2) Why would she make no sense as a concept if she's a little larger than Frenzy? Frenzy made sense! Why not Arcee?
: 3) I have to go to the bathroom SO BAD right now. Hold on.
: --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:18, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
: Movie Transformers come in a wide variety of sizes. In robot mode, Arcee would be shorter than most, but taller than some. I don't understand your comment. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:17, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

::Didn't the writers say she was 9 feet tall? Which is considerably taller than humans, but much shorter than say, Jazz. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:40, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

===Spelling===
Guys, please stop editing my spelling of "colour". As I said in my User Talk page, I made the original edit concerning the G1 '''Colour''' Edition, and since there are no previous exclusively British or American-spelt words in the article, there's no reason to change it. --[[User:Nightshade83|Nightshade83]] 16:43, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
:What's the spelling on the actual box or bag for the toy? [[User:JW|JW]] 16:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
::Near as I can tell, the only English words added to the box are "LIMITED EDITION." The rest is in Japanese, so spelling is somewhat moot.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:47, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
:''"there are no previous exclusively British or American-spelt words in the article"''

:Except for "genericised", which is the British spelling, I believe. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:09, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I'd just like to point to this as the kind of page where sub-sectioning toys by pricepoint is completely retarded. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:52, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

==Deluxe Class vehicle mode==
The current text describes her as being a "genericised" 2006 Buell Firebolt XB12R. Comparing the model to a [http://www.bikez.com/pictures/honda/2007/24185_0_1_2_cbr%20600%20rr_Image%20credits%20-%20Honda.jpg Honda CBR600], though, suggests to me that this is the actual intended vehicle. Can anyone offer a source on the Buell Firebolt, or is this just a matter of opinion? [[User:68.199.39.214|68.199.39.214]] 03:33, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

==From Asia?==
:"This version of Arcee later was sold at Asia online retailers in the same packaging as the first release of Arcee." Wait, i included this part, but someone edited it to say that this came from Asia. I have to state here that i got this one in a normal run-of-the-mill retail shop in BELGIUM, so at LEAST this toy also got released(or shipped) in Europe.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 17:48, 4 April 2009 (EDT)

== Putting the rest of her on this page ==

I'm referring to Chromia and the Purple motorcycle bot. Now I haven't watched the movie yet but from what I gather reading this wiki, and forum posts all three bikes in ROTF are Arcee which is established by the comics, the movie and the novel. So their kinda G1 toon Reflector like. So I think we should put all three bikes on this one page using their toy names as redirects and noting the fact that the toys have their own names and the ability to transform while all fiction depict them as being Arcee's three bodies. We are a fiction based wiki after all. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 09:47, 22 June 2009 (EDT)
:Toy bios ''are'' fiction. The toys represent separate individuals. I propose including all three bikes on the Arcee page ''and'' keeping the individual pages, like we do for Reflector. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:52, 22 June 2009 (EDT)
::If we do that, could someone maybe whip up a combined image for the the three of them? (As in, all three bikes in robot and alt. If the combiner idea hasn't been dropped, then that as part of the image too, I guess.)[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 12:18, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:::I think we should still keep the Movie 1 Arcee image up at the top. It was her first body, after all, which is our policy. We make exceptions, sure, but I don't think one is necessary in this case. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:24, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

==Combined mode==
Where's this coming from? You see one motorcycle turning into this one robot, and somehow it's the combined mode?--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 21:22, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
: There was a scene that didn't make it into the movie that involved the Arcees combining into a single robot from the three motorcycle girls. According to Hasbro at BotCon, anyway! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::Yes, but Carrion is referring to the scan that Starfield just uploaded, which ''isn't'' the combined mode.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:31, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::::You are right. It is a miscolored pink component. The blue component has a wheel over her head, and that is what threw me off. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:32, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

===Combined toys===
I noticed that all three pages say the toys possess the ability to combine into one robot. Is this sourced at all, or are we just talking "hey, I can turn ''Energon'' Shockblast into a gun!" stuff here? --[[User:Buttbutt|Buttbutt]] 02:03, 29 June 2009 (EDT)
:Hasbro said so at BotCon [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:39, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

== Roberto Orci on Tripartite Transformer and the Final Film ==

I don't typically edit the wiki (as I'm never caught up on anything) but the whole 3 individuals (Arcee-Chromia-Unnamed) vs Tripartite Transformer's been a bit frustrating, especially since the film itself gives no clear say either way. I don't know how much you guys will count this for, but when I asked writer Roberto Orci about Arcee over at Don Murphy's Message Board, this is what he had to say:
"Wrote her as one who made up of three. Bay kept them as individuals." [http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showpost.php?p=1379637&postcount=22916 Here]
According to him, Bay, in the final film, went with the Hasbro Bios, rather than the Tripartite thing from the novel/comics. Is that worthy of note/inclusion?
Either way, I have a feeling this will be the next FIRRIB of the fandom. Except without the hatred. :p {{unsigned|24.130.254.208|16:12, June 30, 2009 EDT}}
-Master Fwiffo
:That's great info, thanks. I saw the movie once, and they had such little screen time that I don't think the movie itself answers the question one way or the other, but since I went in assuming they were one Transformer I could be missing something. This helps a lot, I think. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:43, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::I just saw Orci's post too, but he wasn't clear on whether they wrote Arcee as a robot who transforms into three motorcycles (like how Devastator came across on screen as a robot that transforms into lots of construction vehicles) and if Bay chose to pad out the Autobot ranks by giving them all robot modes (which is how I see it, Bay chose to make three robots, it's why Hasbro characterised them as individuals). On screen, all three of them are referred to as Arcee though, and Grey DeLisle is only clearly seen voicing the purple one (although that could be interpreted as Hasbro named Arcee the wrong robot). [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 18:34, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:::That's a good point about Grey DeLisle - however, might I suggest that the credits are hardly a good source for names? After all, 'Wheelbot', 'Skipjack' and 'the Doctor' certainly didn't end up being final. - Fwiff
:::Yes, reading the post again, it almost sounds like Orci means that having individual robot modes means they have to be individual characters, like he doesn't even consider it a possibility that three robot modes could all be one character. At any rate, that brief post isn't clear enough to draw any conclusions. Especially since we do seem to have a few clues from the movie that they are tripartite. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:26, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::::Despite author intent, the three bikes are referred to as just one name in the movie itself. She's "Arcee." Not "hey, you three bikes." Just "Arcee." As in somebody asking for "Arcee, twins" and then the three bikes and the twins do something. Orci's revelation doesn't supercede that. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:30, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::Not to be argumenitive, but I am positive you're wrong on this Walky. 've seen the movie 4 times now, and the last 2 I paid special attention to Arcee's first scene. Here is what I've found. In her hanger, a voice says 'Arcee's ready to launch'. Now, this is the ONLY time in the film Arcee could conceivably refered to as plural. But it could just as easily be 'Arcee's' as in 'Arcee Is'. But here's the kicker. Her line in response is 'We're Locked and Loaded'. - or something - but, I can gaurantee you Arcee says "WE." Add that with Orci's post, I think it's almost definite that the film version shows three seperate Bots. Now, the only thing remaining is the fact the other two aren't mentioned. The answer lies in Arcee's bio. Arcee is the leader of the team - she commands the 'Arcee' unit. Much like Lennox would order, says, Eps and his team by simply sayings 'Eps', that's why the other two aren't mentioned. I am now positive that film Arcee is not one-bot-in-three-bodies. At the very least, I think the Wiki should label this as unclear until we can get an official source to weigh in on this (though I can't think that any source could be more official than Roberto Frikken Orci). - Fwiff
::::::"We're locked and loaded" also works if you're made of three components. It's one step beyond using the Royal We. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:22, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::Also, for shame using an apostrophe to pluralize "Arcees." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:34, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::I thought the voice in the hanger said "Arcee, are you ready to launch?" with the reply "We're locked and loaded." This could support both theories, either being a tripartite (the novelisation) or speaking on behalf of the team she leads (the toy bios). Arcee being her unit's leader is also a damn sight easier to reconcile with her pre-ROTF comic appearances, unless you're going for the combiner retrofit idea to change her from one bike to three. Hell, for all we know from the film alone, none of the bikes are called Arcee and 'RC' is actually short for Reconnaissance Corps or something. [[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 19:45, 9 July 2009 (EDT)

==Arcee's holographic rider?==

So, has anybody been able to dig up who played the holographic girl riding the three Arcees at the beginning of the Shanghai chase? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 19:14, 4 July 2009 (EDT)
:That'd be [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3081637/ Erin Naas]. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:17, 4 July 2009 (EDT)
::Cool! So...how is that gonna be integrated into the wiki? Is she gonna get her own article, like [[Moustache Man]]? She's basically just an extension of Arcee and not a separate character... And if we just add her to Arcee's page, how will we throw her in the "actor" section, next to Grey Delisle and the rest? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 19:20, 4 July 2009 (EDT)

==Main Image==
Since the current main image is an unused one from the first movie, does anyone have a picture of Arcee from ROTF to put up? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:46, 18 July 2009 (EDT)
: It's her first body, so we'll keep using it. That's generally our rule. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:49, 18 July 2009 (EDT)
:: That being the case, shouldn't we swap out all the Animated main characters with their Cybertronian bodies? --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 02:28, 19 July 2009 (EDT)

:The design has also been used multiple times in prequel material such as [[Prime Directives]], [[Defiance]], and [[The Reign of Starscream]], so it's canon. But to answer your question, I do not believe that we have an official, full body image of ROTF Arcee. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 20:50, 18 July 2009 (EDT)
: Fair enough thanks for clarifying [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:52, 18 July 2009 (EDT)

== Human Alliance Arcee and Chromia - accidently swapped around? ==

I was looking at Hasbro's SDCC slide of Human Alliance Mudflap & Chromia, and I noticed the bike's robot design appears to be Arcee's, as Arcee is (I think) the one of the three bikes who has both wheels as her feet and what appears to be the front part of her bike mode on her left shoulder. Meanwhile, the Arcee bike that comes with HA Skids has a gigantic left arm, the front of her bike is her lower torso, and has he rear wheel behind her head, just like Chromia. What do you guys think? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:07, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:Okay, I'll take total silence as total agreement and carry on with my plans. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:17, 26 July 2009 (EDT)
:: My guess is that, assuming that Arcee is a tripartate for the HA bios, that the 'Chromia' component was the only survivor of the final battle. She decided to take the alt-mode of Mikaela's motorcycle, a red bike like the HA toy, but kept a robot mode close to her original one. The likely actual answer is that the deluxe Chromia robot was easier to replicate in a near Legends-to-Scout class size than the deluxe Arcee robot. [[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 14:40, 27 July 2009 (EDT)
:::What? Didn't I just say they've already done the actual HA Arcee design? They're including it with HA Mudflap and Simmons as "Chromia". And they're doing a separate Legends Arcee as well. The real reason is somebody screwed up and got the designs confused. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:41, 27 July 2009 (EDT)
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/seibertron-interviews-arcee-bike-creator-will-kenefick-of-retrosbk/16671/
Here are all of the Images you would need for any of the three bikes. I'll let someone that does this regularly decide how to do this. 16:43, 10 September 2009

== Should we make another Article? ==

I think we should make another Article, One for The Movie one, And one for the ROTF one, what do you think?--[[Special:Contributions/92.238.160.11|92.238.160.11]] 07:09, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:She's still the same character, so no.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 07:23, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

== Heads Up ==

Are the heads on the new Arcee and Chromia figues the same mold? They look identical to me, save for the paint job.[[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 16:54, 2 September 2009 (EDT)

== Movie Arcee image Vs. ROTF Arcee ==
I know that we normaly use the original body's image of characters in the article, but does it make sense to:

1) Have an image up of a concept GCI model that was not used in the film.

2) A character's body that did not apear in the film itself, but is more known from her ROTF concept to the casual fans then the one that only apeared in the comics.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 08:12, 6 December 2009 (EST)

:But the original image (current one) is better. And we don't have a ROTF image of Arcee (especially the combined form) like this one (current). --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 09:57, 6 December 2009 (EST)
::Not to mention it was the first body she used in any fictional appearance (Reign of Starscream). [[User:Eire]] 16.00 Dec 6 09 (UTC)
:::I just tought about this when i showed the page to my girlfriend who did not "get" the combining thingy of Arcee, and asked me who the robot as the main image is. Bare in mind, she only had seen both movies. I'm sure there are alot of people coming here who don't even know this body does exist.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 12:36, 6 December 2009 (EST)
::::I say keep the original. She appeared in it first. Just because the general public doesn't know that is no reason to ignore it. We are here for people to learn these things. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:42, 6 December 2009 (EST)
:::::Surely "the body the general public would know" (probably bodies for ROTF Arcee, plural, rather than a combined mode that wasn't shown in the movie) is the POINT of the mainpic - it's there for instant "yup, you're at the right page"-edness, and the pics further down are for "education". - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 12:56, 6 December 2009 (EST)
::::::The main pic usually works through the body first used in fiction ie how they looked in their original appearance. This is used because so many characters have multiple forms. It's not automatically the most recognisable, otherwise each article would be using an image representing the latest appearance of that character (eg Movie Megatron, Optimus Primal etc) [[User:Eire]] 18.00 Dec 6 09 (UTC)
:::Going back to Reign of Starscream, Arcee's a main character in that story, and pretty much a non-entity in ROTF. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 13:04, 6 December 2009 (EST)
::::The movie comics (total, adding together both Titan & IDW and setting "any story" as the main criterion rather than a specific one like RoS) have a audience of maybe a hundred thousand, tops. The movies themselves have an audience more along the lines of a hundred MILLION. As such, I think what is shown in the movie has just a mite higher recognition than the comics. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 15:15, 6 December 2009 (EST)
::::Doesn't matter in the slightest. It's not about higher recognition, it's about the chronologically earliest form. The only real exception is the Fallen and that's because he is "The Big Villain" (I personally don't agree with it). Arcee is a nobody from nowhere who never did anything important outside of RoS. [[User:Eire]] 21.44 Dec 6 09 (UTC)
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/seibertron-interviews-arcee-bike-creator-will-kenefick-of-retrosbk/16671/ I posted this up above but in the wrong area so people probably didn't take note. so here it is all the various images of the three Arcee's are in this page. Use them as you see fit (if you can).2:39 pm Dec 26,2009
:These all have the TFG2 watermark, which makes me think Seibertron just nabbed them from there and added them, rather than having them sent to them by the artist himself for use in the article. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:45, 26 December 2009 (EST)

== Toy combiner ==

[[Chromia (ROTF)#Notes|Chromia's]] notes section makes it sound like there will be no instructions for combining the toys. Is that right? Will the toy combined mode be totally unofficial with no instructions, no bio, no tech specs, and no name of any kind? Is it even accurate to call the toys "combiners" at this point? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:46, 6 December 2009 (EST)
: What i think is that they will mention it in elita-1's instructions. So i think it's best to wait untill elita-1's instructions apear.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 14:00, 6 December 2009 (EST)
:: Even if they don't, they have mentioned it officially. Therefore, it is still official. It might only be true in some weird micro-continuity, but it is still true in some universe. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:41, 6 December 2009 (EST)

== Survival? ==

In Nefarious 1, with the Autobot troops, you can clearly see a GREEN motorcycle-bot in with them. Error or Arcee? [[User:195.169.205.162|-ThiAthEhn]] 07:23, 18 March 2010
:Neither, it's supposed to be [[Knock Out (ROTF)|Knock Out]] -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 12:51, 18 March 2010 (EDT)
::Thanks -ThiAthEhn

Talk:Nefarious issue 1

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Any suggestions for good images?
I'd say the group shot of the "cassetes", Breakaway's death and Alice driving.

Ratbat (disambiguation)

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The name '''Ratbat''' has been applied to multiple ''Transformers'' characters.

*'''1986''' — [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] the [[Decepticon Mini-Cassette]] from [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]].

*'''2008''' — [[Ratbat (TransTech)|Ratbat]] the [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTech]] [[Decepticon]] from the ''[[Timelines (fiction)|Timelines]]'' series.

*'''2009''' — [[Ratbat (Animated)|Ratbat]] the Decepticon [[wikipedia:keytar|keytar]] partner to [[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]] from ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]''.

*'''2009''' — [[Ratbat (SG)|Ratbat]], the heroic Decepticon Mini-Cassette from the ''[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]] continuity family.

*'''2010''' - [[Ratbat (ROTF)|Ratbat]] the small decepticon under [[Soundwave (ROTF)]]'s command from ''[[Revenge of the Fallen]]''

"Ratbat" should not be confused with

* [[Rattrap]] the [[Maximal]] rat from ''[[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]]''.

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Ravage (ROTF)

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:''Ravage is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:ROTF_Ravage_promo.jpg|thumb|400px|Twisted tales of Felix the death-dealing moggy.]]

'''Ravage''' specializes in infiltration. A frequent partner of [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], he does the dirty work of the larger Decepticon. Ravage's body and armament are all dedicated to hitting the enemy before they even know what hit them. He can be orbitally inserted at fifteen times the speed of sound, spy inside highly secure locations using swarms of [[Microcon (ROTF)|microcons]], and generally ruin your day. He respects the danger [[human]]s present though, as they were the ones who managed to kill [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]].

Some doubt Ravage's sentience, and there is debate on the degree to which he is a distinct entity, rather than an extension of Soundwave's will.<ref>[[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe]]</ref> However, he's displayed guile, cunning, and split-second tactical thinking, making it hard for others to believe he does not have some innate intelligence. <ref>[[Transformers Comic issue 2.4|Titan Ravage Profile]]</ref> In reality, Ravage just considers the other Decepticons ''beneath'' him, and allows his eerie, silent ways and manner to alienate him from his comrades. Soundwave is the one exception: the two are kindred spirits, understanding each other's true nature and motives. <ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro Battle Bios]</ref>

==Fiction==
===''The Veiled Threat'' prequel novel===
After the [[crab spy]] successfully infiltrated [[NEST]] headquarters at [[Diego Garcia]], it made its way back to the sea where Ravage was waiting to pick it up. {{storylink|The Veiled Threat}}

===Titan Magazines ROTF comic===

[[Image:Titan4_Ravagedescends.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Ceiling cat is watching you masturbate.]]

Ravage was dispatched to NEST's [[United Kingdom|Scotland]] base to find, interrogate, and kill [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] before they could pass on information about the Decepticon plans. Easily breaking into one of the most secure bases on Earth, he went on to swiftly knock out [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]] and attempt to rip into the twins. While they were able to evade him, Ravage shrugged off any attack and finally cornered Mudflap, broadcasting Soundwave's demands to him.

This, however, was a trap the twins had set up, and Ravage found himself trapped in a simulated combat exercise. To escape, he faked unconsciousness and then snuck out the back when nobody was looking. But he made sure to bug the base before he left... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}}

[[Image:Titan2-4 SkidsRavage.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Said the Cat, I know a fun game I will win. I think it is called Dismember the Twin!]]

When the twins temporarily pretended to defect, poor Ravage had to listen to them nattering throughout briefings. Not even his ominous growl would silence them! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}}
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===''Revenge of the Fallen'' film===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]]
[[Image:Ravagerotfteaser.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Meowth! That's right!]]
From his vantage point high in orbit above Earth, Ravage's master [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] located the last remaining shard of the [[AllSpark (Movie)|AllSpark]] in a [[NEST]] holding facility on [[Diego Garcia]], and dispatched Ravage to retrieve it. Launched from Soundwave's chest, Ravage plummeted through Earth's atmosphere in re-entry mode and impacted just off Diego Garcia's shore, bounding to land in the blink of an eye. Quickly and stealthily, the feline Decepticon knocked several of the base's security sensors offline to cover his approach, then proceeded to vomit a large quantity of [[Microcon (ROTF)|small, metallic spheres]] down a ventilation shaft. Once inside the base, the spheres transformed and combined into "[[Reedman]]", who successfully stole the shard and returned to the surface to reunite with Ravage. As the human soldiers attempted stop Reedman, Ravage provided cover fire, killing several humans in the process. The pair then made their escape.

[[Image:ROTF-Ravagefires.jpg|left|250px|thumb|He arms himself in case a Monday comes along.]]

Having secured the shard, Ravage traveled to the ''[[Bayos]]'', a human freighter carrying the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicons]] which was passing the area of the sea in which [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] was buried. After diving over the side of the barge and reaching the bottom where Megatron's body rested, Ravage ejected [[Scalpel|the Doctor]] from a compartment in his chest. While the Constructicons began to tear apart the "[[Ze little one|little one]]", Ravage was going for a swim, apparently enjoying the water, but quickly ended his little frolic when the Doctor demanded the shard. After the Doctor resurrected Megatron using the AllSpark shard, Ravage and the Constructicons swam up to the surface following their revived leader.

[[Image:ROTF Ravage death.JPG|thumb|right|250px|Remember to spay and neuter your pets. ''Or Bumblebee will kill them''.]]
Some time later, Ravage joined the other Decepticons in searching for [[Sam Witwicky]] and the [[Matrix of Leadership]] amid some [[Egypt]]ian ruins. The forces of NEST soon arrived, and [[Operation: Firestorm|battle]] broke out, complicating their search. Spotting Sam, [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] instructed [[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]] to release [[Ron Witwicky|Ron]] and [[Judy Witwicky]]. Ravage jumped out of the Constructicon when he ejected the fleshlings, and went stalking. [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] managed to get the jump on Rampage, and Ravage in turn jumped on Bumblebee's head, clawing off part of his battle helmet. Unfortunately for Ravage, Bumblebee still had plenty of fight left in him, and he promptly dispatched the killer kitty by ''tearing out'' Ravage's own goo-covered spine. ''Ouch''. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
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===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
Months after Ravage's death at the hands of [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], his reconstructed form was brought back on-line in an undisclosed location by a mysterious new master. Subsequently, Ravage appeared outside [[Guantanamo Bay]], searching for a "new target". Ravage snuck in, found the remains of the [[appliancebot]]s and appropriated them. Ravage lept into the ocean to escape the military, who had located him.

Ravage emerged on a beach near [[MacDill Air Force Base]]. Though he curled up on the ground to wait for further instructions from his unknown benefactor, he was once again discovered. Ravage destroyed several helicopters before being surrounded by soldiers and jeeps. To bolster his defensive, he unleashed [[Reedman]], and although the smaller robot was eventually taken down, it provided the distraction needed to allow Ravage to escape into a [[Kingdom Petrochemicals|petrochemical plant]].

Deciding the relatively subtle approach wasn't working, officials at the White House asked the [[President of the United States]] for permission to level the plant. As the explosion engulfed the plant, Ravage tried to conceal himself beneath its foundation. Ravage's attempt to survive was mostly successful; his damaged form was still online, waiting in a pit beneath the rubble for new instructions. The remnants of the smuggled appliancebots reached out to him with streams of energy... {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 5}}

Shortly after, Soundwave, disturbed by Ravage's reactivation, dispatches a quartet of minions (Buzzsaw, Rumble, Beastbox and Ratbat) to investigate. This soon erupts into a conflict with cleanup crews and Autobot reinforcements, which prompts Soundwave to intervene. Although the battle results in several casualities on both sides, Ravage is undisturbed. ((storylink|Nefarious issue 1))

==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:ROTFtoy-Soundwavemissile.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Do not aim Ravage towards face.]]
*'''Soundwave''' (Deluxe Class, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RD-04'''
**''Accessories:'' 1 Ravage missile

:Soundwave comes with an intricately sculpted missile that appears to represent Ravage in transition form. He can't transform, though. Bummer.

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[[Image:ROTF_Deluxe_Ravage_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|Admit it: between the spiky spine and that dead, purple eye, you just want to cuddle the guy.]]
*'''Ravage''' (Deluxe Class, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number''

:Part of the third wave of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe Class toys, Ravage transforms from "panther mode" into a [[transition form|"reentry mode."]] (The "reentry mode" is exactly as involved as it looks.) By pulling back on a lever located on the small of his back, Ravage's head will snap forward and his jaws will open; sliding the lever back and forth will reverse and reactivate the gimmick. His tail actually comes off...that means his toy meets the same fate.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/Ravage/ravage.htm More information on Ravage at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:ROTFtoy-GatheringattheNemesis.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Here kitty, kitty, kitty. Where are you?]]
*'''Gathering at Nemesis''' (Toys "R" Us-exclusive box set, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' 1 Ravage missile
: A three pack (technically four pack if you want to count Ravage), also featuring The Fallen, and a silver Voyager Class Megatron from the first movie toyline. Soundwave is [[redeco]]ed in predominantly blue as an homage to the [[Soundwave (G1)|original Soundwave]]. The Fallen was unchanged from his original release.

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[[Image:ROTFtoy-SoundwavemissileNESTAlliance.jpg|right|thumb|300px|I'm not an accessory! I'm a human being! Wait, that's not right either.]]
*'''Battlefield Bumblebee vs Infiltration Soundwave''' (NEST Global Alliance two-pack, 2010)
: Part of the [[NEST Global Alliance]] campaign, a two-pack of [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Battlefield Bumblebee]] and Infiltration Soundwave included yet another [[redeco]] of that damn Ravage missile. But if you buy this and two other specially-marked NEST Global Alliance toys, you can send in for a proper Ravage!
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[[Image:ROTFtoy-RavageRecon.jpg|right|thumb|300px|And I'll form the yikes!]]
*'''Recon Ravage''' (Mail-in exclusive, 2010)
: When you buy the above Bumblebee/Soundwave pack and two specially-marked Transformers products, you can send in for an exclusive Recon Ravage figure! All you need is the order form and "starter sticker" from the NEST Alliance two-pack, stickers from two additional specially-marked NEST Global Alliance products, $4.95 for shipping and handling, and 6-8 weeks. His deco includes vacuum-metalized plastic and seems to be an homage to Voltron's Black Lion.
:In Canada, this toy is a Toys R Us exclusive. Outside of North America, the secondary market will have to suffice.

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===Transformers (2010)===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:ToyFair2010-LegendsRavage.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Transforms from jaguar to jaguar-with-pointy-nose and back!]]
*'''Ravage''' (2010)
:Legends Class Ravage transforms from metallic jaguar to some sort of vehicle.
{{comingsoontoy}}
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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:TF2010toy-RavageSeaAttack.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Catfish.]]
*'''Sea Attack Ravage''' (2010)
: Yet another redeco of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe Class Ravage is in black and silver with gold highlights, intended to recall Ravage's arrival on the shores of [[Diego Garcia]] from the film.
{{comingsoontoy}}
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==Merchandise==
[[Image:ROTFmerchandise-BurgerKingRavage.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Jaguar? I thought you were some kind of outer space potato man. ]]
*'''Ravage Reveal''' [[Burger King]] free toy (2009)
:Ravage is revealed from his <s>hand grenade</s> <s>kitty toy</s> pod (presumably representing his reentry mode) with a flick of the wrist. Or by manually holding the two halves of the pod apart so that Ravage pops out. Oddly there are what appear to be four holes on either side of the pod, perhaps so Ravage has air holes to breathe through.

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===''Robot Heroes''===
[[Image:Robotheroesjoltravage.jpg|right|thumb|300px|At least he's not packaged with that monster, Bumblebee!]]
*'''Jolt and Ravage''' (2009)
:''[[Robot Heroes]]'' Ravage is part of the second ''Revenge of the Fallen'' wave. He has articulation at the shoulders, hips, and neck, and comes packaged versus [[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]].

:He's adorable.
{{-}}

==Notes==

* Ravage and [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] were part of an early draft for [[Transformers (2007)|''Transformers'']]. However, when Soundwave was changed to [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] and the initial jungle setting was replaced with a desert, Ravage was changed to [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]].
* As with poor [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]], sources differed on how sentient Ravage was. Luckily for Ravage, Hasbro's website outright states him to be a sentient being.
*Whether through misinformation or to hide his identity, the Ravage deluxe figure shows up in the Wal-Mart computers as "TRA DLX WOLF". Of course, they're [[Andy Reid|not the first to make this mistake]]. However when it scans at a register, it commonly comes up as "TRA MOV PANTHER".
*In the ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' novelization, Ravage has a flying [[alternate mode]]. He flew out to the freighter where the four Constructicons were waiting and transformed on deck. While descending into the ocean, he was described as a sphere, so he might have two alternate modes. (His Burger King toy perhaps?)
* Despite having a red/orange eye in the movie, all the Ravage toys and merchandise have a purple one... until his Legends figure.
* On his blog, Furman said that Ravage's spine-torn death was a late addition to the film... so late that [[IDW Publishing]] had already made Ravage a key part of their post-ROTF comics! Quick, to the Rewritemobile! [http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2009/07/25/next-up-%e2%80%94-transformers-nefarious/]
* Originally, Ravage was intended to also have an aquatic alternate mode, where he swam to Diego Garcia as a spike covered fish.<ref>[[Revenge of the Fallen DVD field guide#Two-disc Special Edition - (approximately $22.00)|Deconstructing Visual Bayhem]] on the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' special two-disc release.</ref> The reason for dropping this was not stated.
*Ravage was in an early draft of [[Reign of Starscream]], but was dropped at Hasbro's request.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/members/mowry-73165.html#vmessage167559]</ref>

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Decepticons]]
[[Category:Mail order exclusives]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]
[[Category:Robot Heroes]]

Ravage (ROTF)

2010-03-18T18:22:34Z

195.169.205.162: nefarious

{{factions|decepticonfilm}}
{{disambig3|Ravage}}
:''Ravage is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:ROTF_Ravage_promo.jpg|thumb|400px|Twisted tales of Felix the death-dealing moggy.]]

'''Ravage''' specializes in infiltration. A frequent partner of [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], he does the dirty work of the larger Decepticon. Ravage's body and armament are all dedicated to hitting the enemy before they even know what hit them. He can be orbitally inserted at fifteen times the speed of sound, spy inside highly secure locations using swarms of [[Microcon (ROTF)|microcons]], and generally ruin your day. He respects the danger [[human]]s present though, as they were the ones who managed to kill [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]].

Some doubt Ravage's sentience, and there is debate on the degree to which he is a distinct entity, rather than an extension of Soundwave's will.<ref>[[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe]]</ref> However, he's displayed guile, cunning, and split-second tactical thinking, making it hard for others to believe he does not have some innate intelligence. <ref>[[Transformers Comic issue 2.4|Titan Ravage Profile]]</ref> In reality, Ravage just considers the other Decepticons ''beneath'' him, and allows his eerie, silent ways and manner to alienate him from his comrades. Soundwave is the one exception: the two are kindred spirits, understanding each other's true nature and motives. <ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro Battle Bios]</ref>

==Fiction==
===''The Veiled Threat'' prequel novel===
After the [[crab spy]] successfully infiltrated [[NEST]] headquarters at [[Diego Garcia]], it made its way back to the sea where Ravage was waiting to pick it up. {{storylink|The Veiled Threat}}

===Titan Magazines ROTF comic===

[[Image:Titan4_Ravagedescends.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Ceiling cat is watching you masturbate.]]

Ravage was dispatched to NEST's [[United Kingdom|Scotland]] base to find, interrogate, and kill [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] before they could pass on information about the Decepticon plans. Easily breaking into one of the most secure bases on Earth, he went on to swiftly knock out [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]] and attempt to rip into the twins. While they were able to evade him, Ravage shrugged off any attack and finally cornered Mudflap, broadcasting Soundwave's demands to him.

This, however, was a trap the twins had set up, and Ravage found himself trapped in a simulated combat exercise. To escape, he faked unconsciousness and then snuck out the back when nobody was looking. But he made sure to bug the base before he left... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}}

[[Image:Titan2-4 SkidsRavage.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Said the Cat, I know a fun game I will win. I think it is called Dismember the Twin!]]

When the twins temporarily pretended to defect, poor Ravage had to listen to them nattering throughout briefings. Not even his ominous growl would silence them! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}}
{{-}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen'' film===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]]
[[Image:Ravagerotfteaser.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Meowth! That's right!]]
From his vantage point high in orbit above Earth, Ravage's master [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] located the last remaining shard of the [[AllSpark (Movie)|AllSpark]] in a [[NEST]] holding facility on [[Diego Garcia]], and dispatched Ravage to retrieve it. Launched from Soundwave's chest, Ravage plummeted through Earth's atmosphere in re-entry mode and impacted just off Diego Garcia's shore, bounding to land in the blink of an eye. Quickly and stealthily, the feline Decepticon knocked several of the base's security sensors offline to cover his approach, then proceeded to vomit a large quantity of [[Microcon (ROTF)|small, metallic spheres]] down a ventilation shaft. Once inside the base, the spheres transformed and combined into "[[Reedman]]", who successfully stole the shard and returned to the surface to reunite with Ravage. As the human soldiers attempted stop Reedman, Ravage provided cover fire, killing several humans in the process. The pair then made their escape.

[[Image:ROTF-Ravagefires.jpg|left|250px|thumb|He arms himself in case a Monday comes along.]]

Having secured the shard, Ravage traveled to the ''[[Bayos]]'', a human freighter carrying the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicons]] which was passing the area of the sea in which [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] was buried. After diving over the side of the barge and reaching the bottom where Megatron's body rested, Ravage ejected [[Scalpel|the Doctor]] from a compartment in his chest. While the Constructicons began to tear apart the "[[Ze little one|little one]]", Ravage was going for a swim, apparently enjoying the water, but quickly ended his little frolic when the Doctor demanded the shard. After the Doctor resurrected Megatron using the AllSpark shard, Ravage and the Constructicons swam up to the surface following their revived leader.

[[Image:ROTF Ravage death.JPG|thumb|right|250px|Remember to spay and neuter your pets. ''Or Bumblebee will kill them''.]]
Some time later, Ravage joined the other Decepticons in searching for [[Sam Witwicky]] and the [[Matrix of Leadership]] amid some [[Egypt]]ian ruins. The forces of NEST soon arrived, and [[Operation: Firestorm|battle]] broke out, complicating their search. Spotting Sam, [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] instructed [[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]] to release [[Ron Witwicky|Ron]] and [[Judy Witwicky]]. Ravage jumped out of the Constructicon when he ejected the fleshlings, and went stalking. [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] managed to get the jump on Rampage, and Ravage in turn jumped on Bumblebee's head, clawing off part of his battle helmet. Unfortunately for Ravage, Bumblebee still had plenty of fight left in him, and he promptly dispatched the killer kitty by ''tearing out'' Ravage's own goo-covered spine. ''Ouch''. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
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===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
Months after Ravage's death at the hands of [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], his reconstructed form was brought back on-line in an undisclosed location by a mysterious new master. Subsequently, Ravage appeared outside [[Guantanamo Bay]], searching for a "new target". Ravage snuck in, found the remains of the [[appliancebot]]s and appropriated them. Ravage lept into the ocean to escape the military, who had located him.

Ravage emerged on a beach near [[MacDill Air Force Base]]. Though he curled up on the ground to wait for further instructions from his unknown benefactor, he was once again discovered. Ravage destroyed several helicopters before being surrounded by soldiers and jeeps. To bolster his defensive, he unleashed [[Reedman]], and although the smaller robot was eventually taken down, it provided the distraction needed to allow Ravage to escape into a [[Kingdom Petrochemicals|petrochemical plant]].

Deciding the relatively subtle approach wasn't working, officials at the White House asked the [[President of the United States]] for permission to level the plant. As the explosion engulfed the plant, Ravage tried to conceal himself beneath its foundation. Ravage's attempt to survive was mostly successful; his damaged form was still online, waiting in a pit beneath the rubble for new instructions. The remnants of the smuggled appliancebots reached out to him with streams of energy... {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 5}}

Shortly after, Soundwave, disturbed by Ravage's reactivation, dispatches a quartet of minions (Buzzsaw, Rumble, Beastbox and Ratbat) to investigate. This soon erupts into a conflict with cleanup crews and Autobot reinforcements, which prompts Soundwave to intervene. Although the battle results in several casualities on both sides, Ravage is undisturbed.

==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:ROTFtoy-Soundwavemissile.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Do not aim Ravage towards face.]]
*'''Soundwave''' (Deluxe Class, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RD-04'''
**''Accessories:'' 1 Ravage missile

:Soundwave comes with an intricately sculpted missile that appears to represent Ravage in transition form. He can't transform, though. Bummer.

{{-}}

[[Image:ROTF_Deluxe_Ravage_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|Admit it: between the spiky spine and that dead, purple eye, you just want to cuddle the guy.]]
*'''Ravage''' (Deluxe Class, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number''

:Part of the third wave of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe Class toys, Ravage transforms from "panther mode" into a [[transition form|"reentry mode."]] (The "reentry mode" is exactly as involved as it looks.) By pulling back on a lever located on the small of his back, Ravage's head will snap forward and his jaws will open; sliding the lever back and forth will reverse and reactivate the gimmick. His tail actually comes off...that means his toy meets the same fate.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/Ravage/ravage.htm More information on Ravage at TFU.info]''
{{-}}

[[Image:ROTFtoy-GatheringattheNemesis.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Here kitty, kitty, kitty. Where are you?]]
*'''Gathering at Nemesis''' (Toys "R" Us-exclusive box set, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' 1 Ravage missile
: A three pack (technically four pack if you want to count Ravage), also featuring The Fallen, and a silver Voyager Class Megatron from the first movie toyline. Soundwave is [[redeco]]ed in predominantly blue as an homage to the [[Soundwave (G1)|original Soundwave]]. The Fallen was unchanged from his original release.

{{-}}
[[Image:ROTFtoy-SoundwavemissileNESTAlliance.jpg|right|thumb|300px|I'm not an accessory! I'm a human being! Wait, that's not right either.]]
*'''Battlefield Bumblebee vs Infiltration Soundwave''' (NEST Global Alliance two-pack, 2010)
: Part of the [[NEST Global Alliance]] campaign, a two-pack of [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Battlefield Bumblebee]] and Infiltration Soundwave included yet another [[redeco]] of that damn Ravage missile. But if you buy this and two other specially-marked NEST Global Alliance toys, you can send in for a proper Ravage!
{{-}}

[[Image:ROTFtoy-RavageRecon.jpg|right|thumb|300px|And I'll form the yikes!]]
*'''Recon Ravage''' (Mail-in exclusive, 2010)
: When you buy the above Bumblebee/Soundwave pack and two specially-marked Transformers products, you can send in for an exclusive Recon Ravage figure! All you need is the order form and "starter sticker" from the NEST Alliance two-pack, stickers from two additional specially-marked NEST Global Alliance products, $4.95 for shipping and handling, and 6-8 weeks. His deco includes vacuum-metalized plastic and seems to be an homage to Voltron's Black Lion.
:In Canada, this toy is a Toys R Us exclusive. Outside of North America, the secondary market will have to suffice.

{{-}}
===Transformers (2010)===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:ToyFair2010-LegendsRavage.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Transforms from jaguar to jaguar-with-pointy-nose and back!]]
*'''Ravage''' (2010)
:Legends Class Ravage transforms from metallic jaguar to some sort of vehicle.
{{comingsoontoy}}
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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:TF2010toy-RavageSeaAttack.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Catfish.]]
*'''Sea Attack Ravage''' (2010)
: Yet another redeco of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe Class Ravage is in black and silver with gold highlights, intended to recall Ravage's arrival on the shores of [[Diego Garcia]] from the film.
{{comingsoontoy}}
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==Merchandise==
[[Image:ROTFmerchandise-BurgerKingRavage.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Jaguar? I thought you were some kind of outer space potato man. ]]
*'''Ravage Reveal''' [[Burger King]] free toy (2009)
:Ravage is revealed from his <s>hand grenade</s> <s>kitty toy</s> pod (presumably representing his reentry mode) with a flick of the wrist. Or by manually holding the two halves of the pod apart so that Ravage pops out. Oddly there are what appear to be four holes on either side of the pod, perhaps so Ravage has air holes to breathe through.

{{--}}
===''Robot Heroes''===
[[Image:Robotheroesjoltravage.jpg|right|thumb|300px|At least he's not packaged with that monster, Bumblebee!]]
*'''Jolt and Ravage''' (2009)
:''[[Robot Heroes]]'' Ravage is part of the second ''Revenge of the Fallen'' wave. He has articulation at the shoulders, hips, and neck, and comes packaged versus [[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]].

:He's adorable.
{{-}}

==Notes==

* Ravage and [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] were part of an early draft for [[Transformers (2007)|''Transformers'']]. However, when Soundwave was changed to [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] and the initial jungle setting was replaced with a desert, Ravage was changed to [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]].
* As with poor [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]], sources differed on how sentient Ravage was. Luckily for Ravage, Hasbro's website outright states him to be a sentient being.
*Whether through misinformation or to hide his identity, the Ravage deluxe figure shows up in the Wal-Mart computers as "TRA DLX WOLF". Of course, they're [[Andy Reid|not the first to make this mistake]]. However when it scans at a register, it commonly comes up as "TRA MOV PANTHER".
*In the ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' novelization, Ravage has a flying [[alternate mode]]. He flew out to the freighter where the four Constructicons were waiting and transformed on deck. While descending into the ocean, he was described as a sphere, so he might have two alternate modes. (His Burger King toy perhaps?)
* Despite having a red/orange eye in the movie, all the Ravage toys and merchandise have a purple one... until his Legends figure.
* On his blog, Furman said that Ravage's spine-torn death was a late addition to the film... so late that [[IDW Publishing]] had already made Ravage a key part of their post-ROTF comics! Quick, to the Rewritemobile! [http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2009/07/25/next-up-%e2%80%94-transformers-nefarious/]
* Originally, Ravage was intended to also have an aquatic alternate mode, where he swam to Diego Garcia as a spike covered fish.<ref>[[Revenge of the Fallen DVD field guide#Two-disc Special Edition - (approximately $22.00)|Deconstructing Visual Bayhem]] on the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' special two-disc release.</ref> The reason for dropping this was not stated.
*Ravage was in an early draft of [[Reign of Starscream]], but was dropped at Hasbro's request.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/members/mowry-73165.html#vmessage167559]</ref>

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Decepticons]]
[[Category:Mail order exclusives]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]
[[Category:Robot Heroes]]

Talk:Breakaway (ROTF)

2010-03-18T15:59:19Z

195.169.205.162: /* Nefarious */ new section

The darker varient has made it to the USA. I have one. Maybe that should be mentioned when there is a better idea of weather or not it was intentional? {{unsigned|68.46.116.188|19:12, June 1, 2009 EDT}}
:Yes, that is noteworthy, whether or not it is intentional. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:15, 1 June 2009 (EDT)
::Definitely worth noting. It seems to be intentional, otherwise the packaging would be covered in stickers with Japanese writing. Small question about the figure, it's not in the article but the article's a stub: Is there a springloaded missile in that giant arm blaster?--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 12:22, 2 June 2009 (EDT)

Whoever made the caption for his picture deserves a medal. LOL [[Special:Contributions/72.64.11.104|72.64.11.104]] 12:40, 31 July 2009 (EDT)

I think this should be mentioned. There was a discussion over on the Allspark about the darker variant being a cantidate for Gold Plastic Syndrome. Most of the people who replied seemed uncertain whether or not Hasbro had corrected that problem, and no longer used a gold plastic that degraded with age. I'll look up that thread, later, and get confirmation.
[[Special:Contributions/67.251.76.94|67.251.76.94]] 00:32, 18 November 2009 (EST)

== Nefarious ==

Apparantly describing relevant events for a character is not the point of an article, so could anyone put up a better version on the page?
-ThiAthEhn

Talk:Soundwave (ROTF)

2010-03-18T15:52:34Z

195.169.205.162:

==Toy in stores==
* I just got Soundwave in a shop in Belgium, is that even posible when this page says it's not on shelves now?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 15:51, 28 March 2009 (EDT)

== Whaa? ==

What happened to my edit? I added a mainpic then it just disappeared {{unsigned|Ikkwave}}

:The picture was crappy so it was removed. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 06:01, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

:Oh ok XD [[User:Ikkwave|Ikkwave]] 01:02, 19 June 2009 (EDT)

== Head in ROTF ==

Anybody else agree on Soundwave's head in the movie actually being that armoured decoy head the toy has on the back? Looking at the toy that matches far more with what I saw on screen, but I'll know for sure near end of this week when I go and see it again.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 06:51, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

==Toy shoulders==

:''The configuration for the satellite mode depicted in the toy's instructions is not the way Soundwave appears in the film, featuring a different angling for the panels on his shoulders. It's not a big change, but transforming the toy in accordance with his movie appearance ''does'' help to distinguish the jet from the satellite a little, since otherwise, virtually the only difference is in the positioning of the large panel "wings".''

What, exactly, is that referring to? Although many fans (and the official press photos) skip it, the toy's instructions '''do''' show a change in the shoulder panels' position between the jet and the satellite: that's the only way the satellite's panels plug into them. I tried to look at the shoulders the last time I saw the movie, but they looked like the properly transformed version. Before I just delete that section, can someone show me what I'm missing? --[[User:Buttbutt|Buttbutt]] 19:32, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

:Essentially, the toy shows the panels folded down against the shoulders - not bent in the middle and actually plugged into the circular grooves as they are for jet and robot modes, but straight, flat and downwardly-pointing. In the film, they're rotated 90 degrees, fanned out, with the large, flat side (with the orange circle) facing outward. Well, inasmuch as what you see in the movie looks anything ''like'' the toy. He's got two panels fanned out on either side of his head. I suppose, though, after a moment of reflection, that his panels shift and move about so much in the film that it might be a bit negligible. It's just that without it, the only difference between the two modes is bending the shoulder panels down a bit and clicking the large wing-panels into them. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:42, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

==New main picture==

'Rise of the Decepticons' has a good double-page picture of Soundwave hacking into the American satellite, which I feel would be a better choice for main picture as it really embodies his role in the film. Would it be okay to change it, or does TFWiki have an unofficial policy that main pictures have to be of TF's in their robot mode? [[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 05:44, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
:Given that Soundwave doesn't use his robot mode in his most prominent fiction appearance, I think it would be fine if the article's main imagine was of his satellite mode. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 12:25, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
:Okay, seeing the actual picture in question... I don't think that makes a very good main pic at all. It is dominated by the actual satellite and not Soundwave himself. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:25, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
::I could crop it to focus entirely on Soundwave, although it looks a little odd as his main body is entirely on the left-hand side of the picture unless you crop the right wing too. I'm going to try a version where it's centered on his head and see what people think.[[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 18:09, 9 July 2009 (EDT)

== Repeat? ==

Did anyone else notice how two of Soundwave's scenes were the same? Specifically, his first appearance, and his last. Anyone? [[Special:Contributions/24.89.74.34|24.89.74.34]] 02:23, 10 July 2009 (EDT)

== Soundwave's Packaging ==
On the back of his packaging it says, "Cannon converts to blade!" Is it me or is there a lack of cannon?
[[User:Boxotron|Boxotron]] 12:32, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

== New pictures ==

I found the ROTF screenshots from an [http://www.fxguide.com/article551.html FX Guide] interview with [[Digital Domain]]. If anyone could resize the screencaps for me or trim the black bars, since Photoshop doesn't work on my PC, that'd be much appreciated. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 07:22, 28 August 2009 (EDT)

== Rumble and Laserbeak ==

Should we make seperate pages for Rumble and Laserbeak? The two appeared as pods in the DLC for the game so thy deserve a page! and I don't care if they weren't officially named, half the animated characters are unnamed! like "freeway" "carerra" so lets make a Rumble page and a Laserbeak Page! there is no reason we shouldn't!{{unsigned|92.238.187.82|13:10, September 2, 2009 (EDT)}}
:If pages for them are created with enough effort put into them to make them presentable, they won't be deleted. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:45, 2 September 2009 (EDT)

Then lets do it!{{unsigned|92.238.187.82|15:07, September 11, 2009 (EDT)}}

They are in Nefarious 1, pictures requested.
-ThiAthEhn

== Is it really necessary? ==

Can we lose the tentacle rape line? What if kids are reading this?
: [[Kiss Players issue 1]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:07, 14 December 2009 (EST)
::What if ''non-Japanese'' kids are reading this? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:13, 14 December 2009 (EST)
:::Well, then we'll have to delete all the Kiss Players articles, won't we? I mean, if the word "rape" is unacceptable, then the visuals they include are right out, aren't they? ;-P - '''McFeely, not signed in'''
::::Sweet! Oh... You are being sarcastic. I suggested that a while back but Scout shot the idea down. Personally, I think KP should not be called attention to by linking from completely unrelated articles for the sake of a... joke?. Seriously, I don't think we're doing Hasbro any favors. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:38, 14 December 2009 (EST)
:::::Oh, I take no issue with idea of removing the word-linking. Joke works on its own without needing the link. I take issue with the whole "Think of the children!" argument. "What if kids are reading this?" is not a workable argument for removing something from the wiki when official things like ''Kiss Players'' exist. - '''McFeely'''
::::::If Hasbro were that concerned about children stumbling onto "inappropriate" Transformers content, maybe they shouldn't have had that blockbuster movie with the swearing and the humping and the testicles. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:08, 14 December 2009 (EST)
:::::::We totally need a screen shot of the satellite with a caption along the lines of "Why what's such a fine little satellite like you doing all alone out here in space?", also I think my image caption is awesome and it should stay the way it is. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 14:30, 14 December 2009 (EST)

== Soundwave RPM ==

Why isn't it listed among his toys and merchandise? could someone please give me a coherent answer?.------[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 23:00, 16 March 2010 (EDT)
:"No one has gotten around to it yet". It's been officially revealed, both at Toy Fair 2010 and on [http://bwtf.com/node/1304 BWTF], so that's not an issue in this case. It might simply be a matter of waiting for the Hasbro stock photography to be released. (I forget who does most of the RPM updates... abates or apoc, I think?)
:Anyway, you might try adding "please" next time. Your statement came off as a bit impolite. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 23:20, 16 March 2010 (EDT)
:Sorry, was in a rush, tried to add the toy to the page but remembered to ask first before making any important edit
------[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 01:18, 17 March 2010 (EDT)

Breakaway (Movie)

2010-03-18T11:26:59Z

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{{factions|autobotfilm}}
{{disambig3|Breakaway}}
:''Breakaway is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|2007 movie franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Breakawaywithstrongarm.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Out of the darkness and into the sun / but I won't forget all the ones that I love]]
No prison can hold the Autobot escape artist '''Breakaway'''. He's been imprisoned countless times, and has escaped every instance. Decepticons continually try to make a cell that can hold him, but they've never succeeded.

==Fiction==
===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
Many years before the war, Breakaway was a member of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus's]] science division, working on excavation site LT34 near the temple of [[Simfur]]. He was present when the team excavated an ancient relic and for the subsequent argument between Optimus and Protector [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]. {{storylink|Defiance issue 1|Defiance issue 1}} He loyally stayed at Optimus' side when Megatron demanded that all of Cybertron fall under his command so they could wage war on the aliens who attacked [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 2}}

[[Image:Breakawaywingbladeothers.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Colors, Breakaway? You're ruining everything!]]
Millions of years later, after the defeat of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] on [[Earth]], [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] retreated to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] with plans to reconstruct the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]]. [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] followed him and put together a team to stop the Decepticon's mad designs, of which Breakaway was a member. He partnered up with [[Strongarm (Movie)|Strongarm]] for their assault on the city of [[Trypticon (Movie)|Trypticon]]. {{storylink|The Reign of Starscream issue 5|The Reign of Starscream Issue Number Five}}

===IDW ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===
Breakaway accompanied Arcee and [[Clocker (Movie)|Clocker]] on an unspecified mission. Their ship was shot down by [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] and landed on an unknown planet. Arcee lost consciousness thanks to damage sustained in the crash, leaving Breakaway and Clocker to fight off the attacking Decepticon. When Arcee came back online, only Thundercracker was still functional. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 6}}
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==Transformers:Nefarious==
Breakaway is killed by Soundwave during the battle over Ravage's remains

==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
[[Image:Breakaway movie toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I was going to be me, but in the end I was not.]]
*'''Breakaway''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' Grenade rifle, missile, Cyber key

:A Wal-Mart [[exclusive]] redeco of ''[[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] with a color scheme inspired by [[Generation 1]]'s [[Getaway]], Breakaway transforms into a modified white Chrysler ME Four-Twelve concept car. He comes with a clear-red Cybertron-Autobot key that deploys transparent red wings from his spoiler when the key is inserted into the rear of the car. The toy also comes with a spring-loaded, missile-launching gun that can be carried in robot mode or pegged into the roof of the car mode.

: This mold was also used to make [[Excellion]] and [[Retool|retooled]] to make "[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]" [[Goldbug (SG)|Goldbug]].

==Trivia==
* Breakaway was originally designed for the [[Universe (2008 franchise)|2008 ''Universe'' line]] as a new version of ''[[Generation 1]]'' [[Getaway]]. The name did not clear [[trademark]], and he (along with wave-mates [[Fracture]] and [[Crankcase (Movie)|Crankcase]]) were shuffled into the ''Movie'' line as exclusives.

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/Breakaway/breakaway.htm Breakaway at TFU.info]
* [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/default.cfm?page=News/Item&newsid=950171CF-D56F-E112-41602F3A7E919719 Breakaway and wave-mates at Transformers.com]

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Talk:Ravage (ROTF)

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This article is ''begging'' for an MAD Cat joke. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:33, 21 September 2009 (EDT)

==Soundwave Repaints==
:Now that soundwave will have a butload of repaints, do we also note every new ravage missile just like we did with Frenzy from the first movie?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 04:29, 1 November 2009 (EST)
::Absosmurfly. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 06:20, 1 November 2009 (EST)

Does anyone else think that Ravage has a strong Giger "Alien" influence to his look?[[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 19:05, 8 January 2010 (EST)

== Recon Ravage ==

Is there anything that says what additional products are needed for Recon Ravage mail-in? [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|Bioniclepluslotr]] 14:45, 20 January 2010 (EST)

== Missing info ==
Why is there no section on Tales of The Fallen yet, or Nefarious?
He is pretty much one of the main characters there.

-ThiAthEhn-

Talk:Ravage (ROTF)

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195.169.205.162:

This article is ''begging'' for an MAD Cat joke. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:33, 21 September 2009 (EDT)

==Soundwave Repaints==
:Now that soundwave will have a butload of repaints, do we also note every new ravage missile just like we did with Frenzy from the first movie?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 04:29, 1 November 2009 (EST)
::Absosmurfly. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 06:20, 1 November 2009 (EST)

Does anyone else think that Ravage has a strong Giger "Alien" influence to his look?[[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 19:05, 8 January 2010 (EST)

== Recon Ravage ==

Is there anything that says what additional products are needed for Recon Ravage mail-in? [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|Bioniclepluslotr]] 14:45, 20 January 2010 (EST)

Why is there no section on Tales of The Fallen yet, or Nefarious?
He is pretty much one of the main characters there.

-ThiAthEhn-

Soundwave (ROTF)

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{{disambig3|Soundwave}}
:''Soundwave is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]] portion of the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Rotf soundwave satellite mode.jpg|thumb|right|375px|Just wait till he [[Kiss Players|tentacle rapes]] that other satellite!]]

'''Soundwave''', the Decepticon communications officer and one of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s staunchest supporters, doesn't just master the frequencies that carry information across our planet, he revels in them. Stationed high in the upper atmosphere and capable of processing millions of data streams at once, he is fully capable of taking over communications on a planetary scale. Whether he uses this to direct civilization or destroy it remains to be seen.

Soundwave has two extremely powerful weapons: his spread of Sonic Cannons... and Megatron. If any Decepticon crosses him, he does not hesitate to send a full record of said Decepticon's failures to Megatron, almost certainly ensuring an untimely demise. His lofty position has made [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] suspicious, so Soundwave has his minion [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] keep an eye on the [[Air Commander]] if he gets out of hand. Soundwave is also nearly defenseless in space, as his devastating Sonic Cannons only work within the atmosphere.<ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro Soundwave Battle Bio]</ref>

== Fiction ==
=== Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comics ===
[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] was in talks with Soundwave to get him to join in the attack on Earth and be in [[Michael Bay]]'s next documentary. Soundwave is known for talking in several frequencies at once, apparently just to be annoying. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 15|#15's Star Screams}} Starscream doesn't trust Soundwave but notes his intelligence, and so views him as a worthy successor in the event of his death. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 21|#21's Star Screams}}

=== IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics ===
[[Image:Defiance4Soundwave.jpg|thumb|left|100px|No full body shot in the movie or comics.]]
Soundwave was assigned by [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] to take command of the newly built ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]'' with the sarcophagus containing [[The Fallen]]. Soundwave's task was to find a planet with a star [[Solar harvester|harvester]] that could be used to free their mysterious benefactor. Soundwave left [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] just before the outbreak of war. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4}}

[[Image:SoundwaveAllianceIssue2.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Alas, poor Dreadwing. I knew him, Ravage.]]

Presumed dead for years, Soundwave arrived on [[Mars (planet)|Mars]] one month after Megatron's death. He quickly took stock of the situation, scanning both [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing's]] remains, and an imprint of [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy's]] body. He contacted [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] after his battle with [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]], learning of the loss of Megatron and the AllSpark, while informing Starscream that he had sent troops from his ship to Earth, with more waiting in stasis. As Starscream headed for the ship, Soundwave informed him he still had orders to follow. {{storylink|Alliance issue 2}} As more and more Decepticons made planetfall on Earth's surface, Soundwave assumed the form of a satellite and silently observed their operations from orbit. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4}}

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===Titan Magazines ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===
Soundwave appears unknown to the Autobots.{{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}} He commanded a small Decepticon cell, based out of [[Mars]]' moon [[Phobos]]. While nominally under the command of [[the Fallen]], the Fallen is merely in ''contact'' with the Decepticons and currently incapacitated. This left Soundwave free to do his ''own'' thing... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}}

[[Image:Titan4_Soundwaveinterrogate.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only... Oops, wrong movie.]]

One of his goals was to find the location of the [[Tomb of the Primes]]. The aging [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]] [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]] knew but would only tell it to the Fallen. ''Strangely'' unwilling to put the Fallen and Ransack in touch and ''oddly'' prefering to personally know the location of [[Matrix of Leadership|the key to a monstrous superweapon]] himself {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}}, Soundwave turned to the dormant Seekers instead. He directed [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] to [[Las Vegas]] to carve up one such Seeker for its "memory tree". He refused to explain the reason ''why'' to Grindor. When [[NEST]] showed up, Soundwave appeared contemptuous of them and their [[Human|whole species]], noting Transformers owned this world ''long'' before mankind. To Grindor, he simply said to get the memory tree to him and not get captured. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|Learning Curve}}

Later, [[Transformers Comic issue 2.2|on the Fallen's orders]], he directed [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] to find [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]], find out what they knew about [[the Fallen]]'s plans and who they'd told it to, and then terminate them. When Ravage had cornered Mudflap, Soundwave talked through him and attempted to interrogate the Autobot; this failed, with Mudflap not even being bothered about who Soundwave was. While the hit was a bust, Soundwave ensured the base was bugged. As a result, he discovered [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]] distrusted the twins.

[[Image:Titan6_SoundwaveIAm.jpg|right|thumb|250px|"[[Sanctuary|There you go]], fellas!"]]

This was something Soundwave found interesting {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}} and he hatched a plan to ensure the twins were believed to be traitors: which would ensure nobody would follow up on their intell! Somehow, he got [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] to [[Diego Garcia]] at the same time the twins were there. He then had [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] get captured, so that when he was taken to [[Diego Garcia]] Scorponok would free him. With the Decepticon attacking at the same time the twins were distracting Optimus and on top of previous acts, they seemed guilty and were taken into custody. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune}} Soundwave sent [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] to blow up the soldiers escorting the twins to orbitary exile, and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] parachuted in to convince them to defect. When [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] tracked down the twins - who had kidnapped [[Sam Witwicky]] in a failed attempt to convince him to speak to Optimus on their behalf - Soundwave finally landed on Earth and blasted the scout. Soundwave told the twins The Fallen would offer them sanctuary, something they seemed happy to accept... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.6|Outlaw Blues}}

[[Image:Titan7_Soundwave_GO!.jpg|left|thumb|200px|]]

Poor Soundwave soon had to put ''up'' with the twins, as they insisted on chatting through his briefings and dissing the other 'cons. He ''just'' about, through ominous glares, got them to pay attention to their mission: to capture Ransack and bring him in to be "re-educated". This, however, was all a big con on the twins: he just wanted them as expendable bait to draw out Ransack, so Grindor and Sideways could knock him out. Soundwave also spoke for the entire Decepticons when he said that if the twins survived any encounter, ''kill them anyway''. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}}

[[Image:Titan8_Soundwave_FWATT.jpg|right|thumb|200px|KERPOW!]]

Once Ransack was in his hands, Soundwave beat the snot out of him and demanded the location to the Tomb of the Primes. The Seeker still refused to talk, and insulted Soundwave as being a mere cog who could barely understand the big picture. He almost killed Ransack for that, having to be held back by Starscream (don't want the Fallen ''knowing'' you've killed his Seeker!), but the elder continued to mock him for believing he had freedom of action just because the Fallen was absent.

When the twins, revealed to hbave been faking their defection, returned to beat the crap out of the Phobos base, an annoyed Soundwave ended their brief success with overwhelming violence. Unfortunately, before he could kill the Autobots, Ransack took the opportunity to leg it; desperate to stop the Fallen from being informed of what he'd been up to, Soundwave gave chase and the Phobos base was abandoned. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}} As he's still around later, it seems Soundwave made ''sure'' Ransack never made it to the Fallen...

{{note|The following events occur in the Law and Disorder continuity.}}

[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] considers Soundwave to be an untrustworthy jerk who ''never'' pulls his weight in a fight. Megatron, however, loves the guy. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|#7's Law and Disorder}}
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===''Revenge of the Fallen'' film===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]] (English, Italian), [[Horst Lampe]] (German), [[Daisuke Gōri]] (Japanese)

[[Image:ROTF-Soundwaveface.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Next time, Gadget. Next time.]]
Soundwave received a transmission from [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]], who was tailing [[Mikaela Banes]], and instructed him to obtain a surviving shard of the [[AllSpark (Movie)|AllSpark]] in her possession. He found a satellite transmitting a conversation between [[NEST]] and the [[United States military]]. Tapping into it with his tentacles to listen, Soundwave overheard [[Theodore Galloway]] mention another shard of the AllSpark in storage at [[Diego Garcia]], and of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s burial in the [[Laurentian Abyss]].

[[Image:ROTF Soundwave ejects Ravage.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Ravage: Eject. Operation: [[Ruined FOREVER|Childhood rape]].]]

Formulating a plan, Soundwave waited until it would be nightfall on Diego Garcia, then ejected [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] (who was equipped with [[Scalpel]] and the [[Microcon (ROTF)|microcons]] comprising [[Reedman]]) to Diego Garcia to steal the shard. Once they had stolen the shard, they reunited with some [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicons]] and managed to resurrect their leader.

Soundwave remained in space, tapping into the satellite he had found. When Megatron decided to reveal the Transformers presence on Earth after killing [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], Soundwave issued the mobilization order to the waiting troops on the ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]''. As the Decepticons streaked toward Earth, Soundwave tracked down [[Ron Witwicky|Ron]] and [[Judy Witwicky]] in [[France|Paris]]. He called Judy on her cellphone, demanding to know where Sam was, which the human dismissed as a crank call by a pervert. This allowed the Decepticons to track them down and capture them to use as bait for Sam.

[[Image:SoundwaveSatellite.jpg|thumb|300px|Yes, yes, you fans all thought about ''[[Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]'' when you saw me do this.]]

When the CIA discovered that Sam was in [[Egypt]], Soundwave relayed the information to the Decepticons. During [[Operation: Firestorm]], Soundwave blocked the satellites covering the Egyptian area, making things appear normal. General [[Morshower]] was unconvinced though and got other local informants to know what was happening at the [[pyramid]]s. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}

{{note|In the comic, Megatron rendezvous with Soundwave after killing Optimus, making the demand for Sam Witwicky himself, which Soundwave broadcasts through the satellite he clutches. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen Movie Adaptation issue 2}}}}

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===IDW ''Nefarious'' comics===
Soundwave detected [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] was alive and active, and was furious someone else was ordering his pet around. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 5}}

In Nefarious 1, Soundwave is overseeing the Decepticon activities post-Fallen. After deciding to "cut loose" Alice, leading to her termination, he oversees Ravage's actions from Tales of The Fallen. Deploying [[Rumble (ROTF)]], [[Buzzsaw (ROTF)]] and [[Beastbox (ROTF)]] to the site, he himself follows after the arrival of Autobot reinforcements. He kills Breakaway shortly into the battle. After his minions are succesful in retrieving Ravage, he returns to outer space.

===Cyber Missions===
:''Voice actor:'' ?

[[Image:CyberMission1-Soundwave.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Through the dark, to the light, it's a super sonic flight!
Gotta keep it goin'!]]

{{quote|No! Too many sonic booms! I can't absorb—!}}

When Soundwave and [[Bludgeon (ROTF)|Bludgeon]] descended on [[Diego Garcia]], they interrupted an Autobot mission briefing. While Ironhide headed outside to face Bludgeon, Bumblebee remained inside to guard the Autobots' precious [[datatrax|data tracks]] from Soundwave. Bumblebee fired shot after shot, but Soundwave was able to simply use his sonic powers to repel the attacks back towards Bumblebee. However, Bumblebee gambled that Soundwave would be unable to repel a great number of attacks simultaneously, and the Decepticon was overwhelmed by Bumblebee's automatic weaponry. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 1}} Bumblebee confined Soundwave inside a vacuum-sealed electromagnetic bubble, where his sonic weaponry would be useless. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 2}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Jessop]] (English)

====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====
=====Autobot campaign=====

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=====Decepticon campaign=====
[[Image:ROTF_360PS3PC_DLC_Soundwave.jpg|thumb|250px|]]

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{{Note|On [[August 27]], [[2009]], Soundwave was made available as a playable character (for multiplayer games) as optional downloadable content for Xbox 360 and Sony Playstation 3 owners. However, instead of the silver colour scheme established on his regular release toys and movie appearance, the character model was coloured blue, like [[Generation 1]] [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and the [[Toys"R"Us]]-[[exclusive]] Soundwave figure from the ''Gathering at Nemesis'' figure pack. His special attack consisted of a deployable turret that generated earthquakes, a reference to [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]], who was one of Generation 1 Soundwave's tape minions.}}
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==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Legends Class toys====
*'''Soundwave''' (Legends, 2009?)
[[Image:ROTFLegends Soundwave.jpg|right|300px|thumb|No matter what mode you put him in, he is always ready to get down and dirty with unsuspecting satellites.]]

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*'''Infiltrator Soundwave''' (EZ Collection, 2010)

: In Japan, Legends class Soundwave will be [[redeco]]ed to match the colors of Deluxe Infiltration Soundwave (see below). He is part of the Japanese ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]'' promotion, and is only available to those who buy the Voyager "[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] VS [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]]" set at amazon.jp and Yamada Denki stores.

====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:Soundwaverotfpreviewtoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|War fork!]]
*'''Soundwave''' (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RD-04'''
**''Accessories:'' 1 Ravage missile

:Part of the initial Movie Preview wave, Soundwave is a [[Triple Changer]], transforming into a satellite and a Cybertron jet, which are not exactly what could be described as "distinct" from one another. In all three modes, Soundwave features a spring-loaded missile launcher which fires a missile intended to resemble [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]], in reference to the scene in the film in which he launches the feline fiend down at Earth. In his (rather stocky) robot mode, Soundwave has blue light piping in his visor, but it is disabled, having been painted over in red; his other modes feature a second, armored version of his face, which is stored on the back of his robot mode. Probably to avoid giving the toy a very obviously two-headed robot mode, the alternate face lacks any paint details, and has an unpainted blue visor. Soundwave features numerous red and gold [[Paint operation|paint application]]s which are ''very'' cleverly and subtly positioned around his body to replicate similarly-colored and -positioned details on the [[Soundwave (G1)|original Soundwave toy]].

:The configuration for the satellite mode depicted in the toy's instructions is not the way Soundwave appears in the film, featuring a different angling for the panels on his shoulders. It's not a big change, but transforming the toy in accordance with his movie appearance ''does'' help to distinguish the jet from the satellite a little, since otherwise, virtually the only difference is in the positioning of the large panel "wings".

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/Soundwave/soundwave.htm More information on Soundwave at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:ROTFtoy-GatheringattheNemesis.jpg|right|thumb|300px|You can get him in blue, but you gotta get those other guys, too!]]
*'''Gathering at Nemesis''' (Figure multi-pack, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' 1 Ravage missile

: A [[Toys"R"Us]]-[[exclusive]] three pack (technically four pack if you want to count the Ravage missile), also featuring The Fallen, and a silver Voyager Class Megatron from the first movie toyline. Soundwave is [[redeco]]ed in predominantly blue as an homage to the [[Soundwave (G1)|original Soundwave]]. The Fallen was unchanged from his original release.

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[[Image:CharaHobbyROTFSoundwaveBlack.jpg|thumb|300px]]
*'''Soundwave Black Version''' (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' 1 Ravage missile
:Exclusive to the 2009 "C3 X Hobby Chara Hobby" show that ran across [[August 29]]-[[August 30|30]] in Japan, Soundwave Black Version is a redeco of the deluxe ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Soundwave toy in black and red with orange highlights. Following the convention, remaining quantities of the figure were made available to purchase via lottery through the [[E-Hobby|e-Hobby]] website.

::*''[http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/cgi-bin/omc?port=33301&req=PRODUCT&code=tf_ev_07 Soundwave Black Version at e-Hobby]''

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[[Image:ROTFtoy-SoundwaveNESTAlliance.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Look out for Escalation Soundwave, Devastation Soundwave, and Soundwave Loves Drift-Chan.]]
*'''Battlefield Bumblebee Vs. Infiltration Soundwave''' (Deluxe 2-pack, 2010)
**''Accessories:'' 1 Ravage missile

:Part of the [[NEST Global Alliance]] campaign, Infiltration Soundwave is another redeco of the Deluxe Class Soundwave mold, this time in dark blue and dark gray, plus bright red that simulates the intense heat of orbital reentry. He comes with Battlefield Bumblebee, a retooling of Cannon Bumblebee with a new battlemask head. Also included in the packaging is a "Mission Guide" catalog and ordering form for the mail-in exclusive Recon Ravage, a "starter sticker" for said ordering form, and a NEST Global Alliance iron-on patch. Two additional stickers from specially-marked NEST Global Alliance products and $4.95 shipping are required for the promotion. Sadly, this promotion does not exist in Europe. Surprisingly, the package does not recognize his Cybertron jet mode, instead only acknowledging his satellite mode.
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==Merchandise==
===Burger King===
[[Image:ROTFMerchandise-BurgerKingSoundwave.jpg|thumb|right|200px|I spy with my little eye.....impending tentacle rape.]]
*'''Seeking Soundwave''' (2009)
**'''Accessories:''' 2 blue solar panels
:The [[Burger King]] version of Soundwave is a representation of the communications satellite which Soundwave hacked into in the movie. The dishes have tendril details added to them. Peering into an opening in the top gives a sort of periscope effect, although as there is only one mirror, everything looks backwards.
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==Notes==
[[Image:EarlyMovieBlackout.jpg|right|200px|thumb|A Soundwave-headed Blackout from an animatic.]]
[[Image:ROTFEarthSoundwaveConcept.jpg|thumb|right|200px|]]
* Soundwave was originally supposed to feature in [[Transformers (2007)|''Transformers'']]; he fulfilled both [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]]'s roles, hacking into the CIA headquarters as a portable stereo, then [[size changing|morphed]] into a Humvee to track down [[Sam Witwicky]].<ref>Details from an early script draft [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showpost.php?p=2213120&postcount=297 summed up here], [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showpost.php?p=2214148&postcount=303 confirmed as authentic by Roberto Orci here].</ref> [[Michael Bay]]'s decision to minimalize the amount of morphing in the film resulted in a change to a helicopter who openly attacks the army. Soundwave and [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] were changed to [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] and [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] as the film's location was changed from a jungle to a desert.<ref>[http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showpost.php?p=234188&postcount=2008 Roberto Orci confirms that Ravage was replaced by Scorponok at the official movie boards]</ref><ref>[http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showpost.php?p=234188&postcount=2008 Roberto Orci confirms that Ravage would have appeared in a different terrain at the official movie boards]
</ref> Soundwave's name remained attached to the separated portable stereo character for a while, but Hasbro felt the resulting character did not properly represent the original Soundwave—he was first renamed Soundbite, but eventually ended up with the name Frenzy.

*According to the trade paperback, Soundwave was a major character in the third draft of ''[[The Reign of Starscream]]''.

* In early drafts of ''Revenge of the Fallen'', Soundwave came to Earth and scanned a black Chevrolet Silverado pick-up truck form. Artist [[Paul Ozzimo]] created a visualization of this idea, and Hasbro based the Cybertronian satellite form's robot mode on this abandoned concept, particularly a Cybertronian version of the Chevy grill and small headlights on the lower torso. They then combined Ozzimo's body design with an unused, heavily G1-esque head design that had been created by artist [[Josh Nizzi]] (although Soundwave's finalized head design was also incorporated into the toy's satellite mode, in a manner akin to anti-[[kibble]]).

*Hasbro's description and arrangement of Soundwave's toy as a triple changer runs counter to the filmmakers' intent to introduce the technology in the next film.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-will-not-feature-triple-changers-165854/ News from TFW2005.com on September 23, 2008,] detailing [[Roberto Orci]]'s confirmation that there would be no triple-changers in ''Revenge of the Fallen''.</ref>

*Even though [[Frank Welker]] returned to voice Soundwave for the movie, his voice was not vocoded, but rather synthesized in the same way all the other Transformer voices in the movie were. Because of this, the voice he uses is much closer to that of "The Cave of Wonders" from [[Wikipedia:Aladdin (film)|Walt Disney's ''Aladdin'']] and Darkseid from The Super Powers Team: Galactic Guardians, both voiced by Welker. However, in the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' video game, Soundwave's voice ([[Peter Jessop]]) is vocoded in a manner similar to that of ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]]'s first voice, only with a more musical tone.

*[[Frank Welker]] voiced Soundwave not only in the English version of ''Revenge of the Fallen'', but also in a large number of foreign dubs, including the Italian one. Welker described the process as "very hard".<ref name="welkernewsarama">[http://www.newsarama.com/tv/090915-Animated-Shorts-Welker.html Newsarama interview with Frank Welker], September 2009.</ref> Althouth Welker is also credited in the German dub of the movie, German dubbing insiders insist that the voice heard in the actual movie is by someone else ([[Horst Lampe]], who also dubbed ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated]]'' [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]]), presumably as a last-minute decision because Welker's "German" performance was considered sub-standard.<ref name="germandub">[http://215072.homepagemodules.de/t511643f11775323-Transformers-Die-Rache-Transformers-Revenge-of-the-Fallen-7.html German dubbing board thread about ROTF, with a discussion about Soundwave's voice]</ref>. Welker is also credited in the Spanish dub (which character he voiced is not listed, but it was most likely Soundwave).

* Soundwave is unique among the Decepticons introduced in ''Revenge of the Fallen'' because he survives ([[Scalpel]]'s fate is ambiguous in the film itself but he was clearly scrapped in the [[Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|two]] [[Revenge of the Fallen issue 2|adaptations]]). All the others are presumably killed, meaning if all our information only came from the films, then the only Decepticons alive are the original triad of Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, along with the oft-overlooked [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]].

* Soundwave was included as a downloadable addition to the roster of the Revenge of the Fallen Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 video game, along with several ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' homages and fellow movie character [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]]. Soundwave's special abilities deploy an aerial jammer pod that looks suspiciously like [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], and an AOE pod that continuously smashes the ground with piledrivers; undoubtedly a nod to Generation 1 [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave's]] minion [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]. According to concept artist [[Ken Christiansen]], his appearance was based more closely on the Deluxe class toy than his movie design.

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:Communications specialists]]
[[Category:Decepticons]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]
[[Category:Spies]]
[[Category:Triple Changers]]

Breakaway (ROTF)

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{{disambig3|Breakaway}}
:''Breakaway is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Breakaway_ROTF_render.jpg|right|301px|thumb|I'll take a risk, take a chance, make a change...]]

In an army dominated by the ground bound, '''Breakaway''' stands out as an Autobot with flight capabilities. Not only that, but in a straight line, there aren't many fliers that keep up with him. In battle he uses this to his advantage, dispensing with any aerial acrobatics, and simply relying on bombing runs at super-sonic speeds to get the job done.

He has the cutest little face in the world.

{{quote|Like they taught me back in flight school: hit 'em hard and hit 'em fast!|Breakaway|[[Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen game]]}}

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==Fiction==
===Toy bios===
{{notemoviebio}}

As one of the "two newest Autobot recruits on Earth", Breakaway joined [[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]] in hunting down [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] and [[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]]. While Longarm chased Sideways through the streets, the Autobot aerial ace found himself evenly matched by Rampage's raw power. The result of this battle is unknown. {{storylink|#StrikeMission|Autobot Strike Mission toy bio}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Andrew Kishino]]

====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====
=====Autobot campaign=====
[[Image:ROTFgame 360PS3PC ConstructiconWarrior Breakaway.jpg|thumb|left|250px|]]
Breakaway was the Autobots sole flier. He possessed a [[fusion beam sniper rifle]] that allowed for precision, long range attacks. His secondary weapon was a chaingun that fired in three-round bursts. Additionally, he could also release a heatwave which would overheat Decepticon weapons, allowing Breakaway to fight them hand to hand.

[[Image:ROTF_360PS3PC_Breakaway_ConstructiconWarriors.jpg|thumb|250px|"And away we go!"]]

When the Decepticons assembled a force to resurrect [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] using an [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]] shard stolen by [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]], Breakaway, being the only flier at the time, was the sole Autobot able to assist the besieged [[United States Navy]] fleet assigned to guard the area. Following his arrival, he began fixing their anti-aircraft guns to dispose of the Seeker forces attacking the ships, fighting [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]] drones off. Once the guns were repaired, Breakaway rescued several injured sailors that needed evac to their medical center in the radar station built for the fleet. Despite all this effort, the Constructicons managed to reactivate Megatron, and the Decepticons were once again a serious threat to [[Earth]].

After Sam Witwicky left for [[Egypt]] with [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]], the Decepticons launched a cloaked probe to locate the boy. Breakaway was dispatched to track down and destroy the probe. He succeeded, but discovered that there was a second probe cloaked by the first. Breakaway managed to destroy the probe before it could pick up Sam's trail.

=====Decepticon campaign=====

Following [[Theodore Galloway|Director Galloway]]'s abduction by [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], Breakaway led a team of Autobots to locate and rescue him. His team was ambushed by [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]], and they fought a bitter fight which saw Breakaway deactivated.

{{-}}

==Transformers: Nefarious==

Breakaway is deployed alongside Bumblebee to protect Ravage's remains, who Soundwave's minions are attempting to recover. Soundwave destroys him shortly into the battle.

==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Deluxe Class Toys====
[[Image:Breakaway ROTF Deluxe toy.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Aww, he's sad. Someone needs a hug!]]
*'''Breakaway''' (2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-05'''

:''[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' Breakaway transforms into an approximation of an [[Wikipedia:F-35 Lightning II|F-35 Lightning II/Joint Strike Fighter]]. His right arm features a rotary cannon with rotating barrel, activated by a gear-wheel embedded in his forearm. His Mech-Alive gimmick is located in his upper arms; turning his forearms makes the green gears turn. Breakaway does have a waist joint, but turning it is impossible because the tail fin (attached to his waist) tabs into his back. Surprisingly, unlike most deluxe figures, he actually has rolling landing gear.

:Due to a design issue Breakaway's head always looks skyward while in robot mode. His tiny head is on a ball joint, but it is locked in place by a clear plastic piece of his jet mode's canopy. As a result, Breakaway can't move his head at all. It's possible to fix this by disassembling the toy's fuselage and shaving down the clear plastic piece.

:Amusingly, the location of his head makes it look like he is riding himself in jet mode.

:Along with [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]], Breakaway was initially released in two color schemes, a tan version and a less common dark bronze/gold version.

:Breakaway was [[retool]]ed to make ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Thrust (ROTF)|Thrust]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/Breakaway/breakaway.htm More information on Breakaway at TFU.info]''

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{{anchor|StrikeMission}}
[[Image:ROTFAutobotStrikeMission.jpg|thumb|250px]]
*'''Autobot Strike Mission''' (Deluxe class figure multipack, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:Available as a [[Sam's Club]]-[[exclusive]], Breakaway was packed with ''Movie'' [[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]], [[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]] and a "battle damaged" version of [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]].

{{-}}

==Notes==
[[Image:ROTF_Breakaway_concept.jpg|thumb|200px|And now you know where the green and blue came from on the toy.]]
* Breakaway was apparently going to be in the [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|''Revenge of the Fallen'']] movie at one point. [[Ben Procter]] designed his robot mode under the working name '''Firestorm'''.<ref name="procter">[http://conceptartworld.com/?p=2772 Ben Procter's concept designs for ROTF]</ref>
* The English text on the European packaging says Breakaway "flies over flights". Oh dear.

==Footnotes==
<references/>

[[Category:Autobots]]
[[Category:NEST]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]

Talk:Operation: Firestorm

2010-03-17T22:35:03Z

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Um. Where did the name "Operation: Firestorm" come from? I've never heard of it.--[[User:LesterX|LesterX]] 15:20, 21 December 2009 (EST)
:It's the designation the [[Pentagon]] gave for the anti-Decepticon operation. Once they see images from the UAV, [[Morshower|General Morshower]] tells the Pentagon staff to commence Operation: Firestorm. As to why I called it that, there was no other name I could think of. Technically, the battle is all over the map, in [[Aqaba]] and [[Giza]], so it wouldn't have been accurate to confine it to just one area. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:24, 21 December 2009 (EST)
::I think "Battle of the Fallen" is a better name, like with [[Robot Heroes]].--[[User:LesterX|LesterX]] 16:56, 22 December 2009 (EST)

== Casualties? ==

Do we have any sort of confirmation who lived, and who died?
There appears to be some disrepency on the wiki.

-ThiAthEhn

Talk:Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)

2010-03-15T22:42:41Z

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Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)

:There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)

== It does seem like a seperate continuity ==

I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?
:Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say "assumption" isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)
:::The TFW2005 interview states it's "not connected to any particular generation" and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)
::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)
:::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)
::::::How about "WFC"? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]
:::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using "WFC" to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)
:::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview "Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe." The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying "Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not," or vice-versa "anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?" A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. "Its prehistory is very slightly different" will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)
:[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)
By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than "influenced by it" I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

== The New trailer ==

should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)
: The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)
:: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]

== Logos ==

I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)
: No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)

== Starscream? ==

Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the "Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault" picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)
: He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)
::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010
Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)

== Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==

So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]
::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)

We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)
: It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)
::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::: I'd say more "Classics-ized" versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)

== Fresh trailer guys ==

http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage

Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.

ThiAthEhn
: Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)

Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...
ThiAthEhn
: Third link in "external links" at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)

==Character Sources?==
I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)
: For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)

==Release date==
Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)

== Motormaster ==

Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version:
http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg

Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html
: I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)

== Interview and more gameplay and footage ==

http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story

Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.

-Aaron Archer

-It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.

-Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?

-And much more...

ThiAthEhn

Talk:Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)

2010-03-15T22:41:17Z

195.169.205.162: /* Interview and more gameplay and footage */

Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)

:There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)

== It does seem like a seperate continuity ==

I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?
:Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say "assumption" isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)
:::The TFW2005 interview states it's "not connected to any particular generation" and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)
::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)
:::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)
::::::How about "WFC"? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]
:::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using "WFC" to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)
:::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview "Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe." The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying "Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not," or vice-versa "anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?" A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. "Its prehistory is very slightly different" will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)
:[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)
By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than "influenced by it" I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

== The New trailer ==

should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)
: The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)

== Logos ==

I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)
: No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)

== Starscream? ==

Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the "Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault" picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)
: He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)
::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010
Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)

== Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==

So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]
::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)

We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)
: It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)
::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::: I'd say more "Classics-ized" versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)

== Fresh trailer guys ==

http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage

Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.

ThiAthEhn
: Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)

Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...
ThiAthEhn
: Third link in "external links" at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)

==Character Sources?==
I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)
: For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)

==Release date==
Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)

== Motormaster ==

Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version:
http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg

Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html
: I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)

== Interview and more gameplay and footage ==

http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story

Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.

-Aaron Archer

-It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.

-Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?

-And much more...

ThiAthEhn

Talk:Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)

2010-03-15T22:40:45Z

195.169.205.162: /* Interview and more gameplay and footage */ new section

Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)

:There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)

== It does seem like a seperate continuity ==

I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?
:Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say "assumption" isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)
:::The TFW2005 interview states it's "not connected to any particular generation" and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)
::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)
:::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)
::::::How about "WFC"? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]
:::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using "WFC" to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)
:::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview "Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe." The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying "Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not," or vice-versa "anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?" A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. "Its prehistory is very slightly different" will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)
:[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)
By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than "influenced by it" I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

== The New trailer ==

should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)
: The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)

== Logos ==

I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)
: No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)

== Starscream? ==

Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the "Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault" picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)
: He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)
::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010
Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)

== Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==

So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]
::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)

We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)
: It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)
::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::: I'd say more "Classics-ized" versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)

== Fresh trailer guys ==

http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage

Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.

ThiAthEhn
: Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)

Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...
ThiAthEhn
: Third link in "external links" at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)

==Character Sources?==
I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)
: For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)

==Release date==
Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)

== Motormaster ==

Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version:
http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg

Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html
: I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)

== Interview and more gameplay and footage ==

http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story

Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.

-Aaron Archer
-It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.
-Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?
-And much more...

ThiAthEhn

Talk:Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)

2010-01-26T13:07:04Z

195.169.205.162:

Talk:Blackout (Movie)

2010-01-13T15:51:58Z

195.169.205.162: /* Call of Duty; Modern Warfare 2 */ new section

==Hard points==
Should it be mentioned in the article that the two hard points on the Voyager-class figure's shoulders are perfectly suited to plugging a Mini-con onto? I noticed this when I first purchased the figure, then tried it out when I got a chance; the pegs are almost identical to the ones on Armada and Energon figures.
[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 06:29, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
:Note it in the Voyager class toy's writeup. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:09, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
:Italicized trivia at the end of the toy writeup. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
:: I don't think its particularly significant, given that several non UT-era toys have that sort of 5mm peg with a hole in the middle. Even G1 Ultra Magnus has one. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
::: I think mentioning as part of the toy's description that it has two Powerlinx pegs on its shoulders/helicopterpartthingy isn't intrusive, and is actually a good thing to know! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:36, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
:::: Something that EXPANDS the toy's playability? HELL YES it should be mentioned! --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 07:25, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
::::: Well the toy IS pretty unplayable in its present form, so it needs all the help it can get. I'll have to reword the blurb, because it suggests somebody at Haskara might have intended them to be Mini-Con ports, when they are not. Merely a coincidence. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::aaaaand i'll just remove what I just said - forgot about this giant weapon, there. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

== Blackout on mars ==

In the movie, [[Tom Banachek]] clearly state that the robot destroying the Bealgle 2 Rover has been identified as the one that attacked the base in Irak. Shouldn't that be mentioned?--[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 17:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:Definitely. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 17:33, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:I... don't think it's clearly stated. They say they have similar exoskeletal thingermajig. They could simply be saying he's the same species. We should be careful. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:02, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah it was not clearly stated as such. What he told Keller was that they believe it the two things in the photos (Mars McRandomdude and Blackout) have a similar exoskeletal structure, not 'the thing that attacked the base destroyed this probe a couple of years ago!' --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:27, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
::Well seeing that the transformers can also been ditingued by they personnal exoskeleton, we could mention it with a "Presumed", or a "it could be", even in the trivia, no?--[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 18:36, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:::There's no evidence, so we can't suggest it in trivia, in my opinion. They do that far too often on the regular Wikipedia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:45, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
::It seemed pretty obvious to me that it was supposed to be the same guy. I assumed the "similar" part was just because now the guy turns into a helicopter and looks slightly different now-- not that it was a different guy. I mean, their silhouettes were basically the same. Regardless, if it's really a contended point, do we have any secondary material that addresses this at all? --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 18:50, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
::I assumed the 'similar' bit meant 'we think it's the same species.' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:18, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:::It seemed to me that Banachek was saying it's the same robot. However, it is at best implied, and the idea of that being Blackout contradicts, IMO, Bumblebee's designation as N.B.E.-2. I was under the impression that Bumblebee was supposed to be the Mars robot, and thus was surprised by the (to me) implied "it was Blackout". --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 21:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, no, we know the rover-smasher was definitely either Starscream, Blackout or Barricade - we see it ''happen'' on the second-to-last page of the IDW prequel. We just don't see which one of them delivers the blow. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:58, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Tom clearly states that they are of “the same exoskeletal type”, so other than it being Blackout who the image is compared to, there is no implication that they are the same one what so ever. The purpose of that scene was to show they are the same species, nothing more. As far as evidence in the movie goes, the Mars Transformer is no more Blackout than it is any other character.
Obviously the images do look similar, but then most of the transformers are similar anyway, (just try looking at silhouettes of the Atobot protoforms for instance), realistically blackout would be too big for the event; he would overwhelm the view and would have cast the rover in a much greater shadow. If anything it looks more logical to be Barricade. -Guest 15:21, 6 March 2008.

==New image==
[[Image:Movie_Blackout_promorender2.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]

Opinions on using this image as the new main pic? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:51, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Personally, what I would like to see this Wiki do is put a section at the bottom of each page of the movie transformers that contains all other images of that character, including extra CGI renders. --Guest 20.55 23February 2008

==Automorph==
I put info on how to best automorph the voyager class figure. Hope it helps. --[[User:Paradox244|Paradox244]] 00:46, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

==Cyber Slammer==
I think the Cyber Slammers blackout thing is just an error on Hasbro's website's part, the page was up for a day with no pics or text, and I don't recall the toy being announced anywhere else. I'm removing it from the page 'til there's prooof it's gog to be made. --[[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] 03:57, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

==Alt-mode Origin Contradiction==
It just occurred to me that there may not necessarily be a contradiction between Blackout getting his alt-form 3 years before the movie in the "Prime Directives," prequel comic, and the mention of how his serial number namesake got shot down in Afghanistan 3 months prior to the movie. He mentions in the comic that there "were no witnesses," in contrast to Blackout and Starscream. If this is true, then it's entirely possible that he scanned the vehicle without any humans noticing, and then both he and the helicopter he scanned went on their separate paths; Blackout doing the stuff he did in Prime Directives and the helicopter getting shot down in Afghanistan three months before the movie. --[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 08:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

==EMP??==
Why is Blackout's initial attack called an EMP wave? If it was, every electrical circuit on the base should be rendered dead. This was clearly not the case since the computers were still on. It looks like just some kind of plain old shockwave to me. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 06:39, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

==Sabot at the base?==
Can we confirm it was a sabot round? I mean, for one, they didn't pull that trump card until later in the film. Two, Blackout didn't "react" the way every other Transformer (including himself) did when hit with Sabot: Namely, in pain. At the base, he merely "flinched".
tl;dr I think it was a simple grenade launcher. --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 06:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
:You're right, it was just a grenade round. On the DVD there appears to be, as the soldiers later relate, some kind of force field holding back the energy of the grenade. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:17, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

== Blackout not dead? ==

In a recent video released by Bay himself, we see Prime clearly getting his ass kicked by Starscream, Megatron, and Blackout. Is this currently worth noting, or is someone going to suggest Blackout has a twin?
--[[Special:Contributions/75.181.157.99|75.181.157.99]] 07:24, 18 April 2009 (EDT)
:He definitely is, anything else is speculation. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 11:28, 18 April 2009 (EDT)
::It's not really that odd...Megatron was dead and disposed of with Blackout, so presumably whatever resurrected Megatron also nabbed Blackout. Honestly, it should have been expected.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 12:27, 18 April 2009 (EDT)
:He does have a twin of sorts, [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] is a Blackout repaint appearing in both the toyline and the video game. While there's absolutely no confirmation that Grindor's the character in the trailer, there's also no confirmation that it *isn't* him. This will all be easy enough to confirm once we've seen the movie and game and so on, but until then I don't think we can say with certainly that Blackout returns in the new film. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 15:02, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

== ROTF status ==

So we have absolutely no idea if it's Blackout in Revenge of the Fallen? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 16:49, 8 June 2009 (EDT)
:No idea at all. Apparently the Blackout-like 'Con in the film is never called by name, has no lines (and so isn't listed in the credits), and Megatron's the only one of the dead 'Cons from film 1 that the 'Cons (a) are seeking to bring back and (b) are shown to bring back. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 16:55, 8 June 2009 (EDT)
::It is the same in the adaptations. Interestingly, there is a Blackout in the [[M&M's]] portion of the ROTF continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:02, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

== Blackout is dead ==

Transformers Revenge of the Fallen has been released in tokyo, and it has been confirmed that Blackout is dead. The Blackout-looking guy you see in the commercial is Grindor. [[User:Homey|Homey]] 17:05, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

 It seems that much of the decepticon army is made of duplicates, as induvidual constructicons appear at the same time as Devastator, and Demolisher is clearly dead by this point. Along with the the new helicopter guy, there is a decepticon with Bonecrushers alt mode shown breifly, though it doesn't transform.[[User:Thelastallosaur|Thelastallosaur]] 18:17, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

Thelastallosar, please don't spam.[[User:Homey|Homey]] 19:01, 21 June 2009 (EDT)

== Crotch-shot? ==

Practically every article that does as much as remotely mention Blackout states he was shot in the crotch. I wouldn't even have that much of a problem with this if it wasn't an outright lie. It is quite clear in the movie that he was shot underneath his chest armor, hitting his spark. As Epps said "They're weakest underneath the chest", right before Lennox proceeded to slide under Blackout, allowing him to get his shots underneat the armor.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 18:29, 8 August 2009 (EDT)

== Call of Duty; Modern Warfare 2 ==

In the game, there are two callsigns which shout out reference to Transformers. One is called "Blackout" and features a Pave Low. The other is called "Transformer", and also features a Pave Low. Should we add this to trvia?
-ThiAthEhn

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==Naming==
Denton said that [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=151659#151659 they'll be dropping the "The"]. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 07:29, 17 September 2009 (EDT)
:Yes, can someone revert it to the "The"-less title? I'd do it myself, but not certain how with there's a redirect from that page already.--[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 10:35, 19 December 2009 (EST)

We censor [expletive] but not balls?
-ThiAthEhn

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How could Soundwave have revived Ravage when he was shocked Ravage was alive? [[User:Eire]]

-Dunno, but the tentacles seem to be controlled, not automatic. And isn't Soundwave the tentacle guy? Besides, it doesn't seem unplausible that he assembled them through his monitoring of Earth. [[User:ThiAthEhn]]
Ravage was revived somewhere on Earth and he's referencing a new master. Soundwave is amazed he's alive. None of that suggests anything you've put forward. Not even remotely. Have another read through. [[User:Eire]] 14.18 Jan 12 2009 (UTC)

That means the eggs are on Earth, right?
More H.R Geiger it is.

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:''Soundwave is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:ROTF Soundwave sat.jpg|thumb|right|375px|Just wait till he [[Kiss Players|tentacle rapes]] that other satellite!]]

'''Soundwave''', the Decepticon communications officer and one of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron's]] staunchest supporters, doesn't just master the frequencies that carry information across our planet, he revels in them. Stationed high in the upper atmosphere and capable of processing millions of data streams at once, he is fully capable of taking over communications on a planetary scale. Whether he uses this to direct civilization or destroy it remains to be seen.

Soundwave has two extremely powerful weapons- His spread of Sonic Cannons... and Megatron. If any Decepticon crosses him, he does not hesitate to send a full record of said Decepticon's failures to Megatron, almost certainly ensuring an untimely demise. His lofty position has made [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] suspicious, so Soundwave has his minion [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] keep an eye on the [[Air Commander]] if he gets out of hand. Soundwave is also nearly defenseless in space, as his devastating Sonic Cannons only work within the atmosphere.<ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro Soundwave Battle Bio]</ref>

{{quote|Decepticons: mobilize. It is time.|Soundwave gives the rally cry|[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]}}

== Fiction ==
=== Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comics ===
[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] was in talks with Soundwave to get him to join in the attack on Earth and be in [[Michael Bay]]'s next documentary. Soundwave is known for talking in several frequencies at once, apparently just to be annoying. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 15|#15's Star Screams}} Starscream doesn't trust Soundwave but notes his intelligence, and so views him as a worthy successor in the event of his death. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 21|#21's Star Screams}}

=== IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics ===
[[Image:Defiance4Soundwave.jpg|thumb|left|100px|No full body shot in the movie or comics.]]
Soundwave was assigned by [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] to take command of the newly built ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]'' with the sarcophagus containing [[The Fallen]]. Soundwave's task was to find a planet with a star [[Solar harvester|harvester]] that could be used to free their mysterious benefactor. Soundwave left [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] just before the outbreak of war. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4}}

[[Image:SoundwaveAllianceIssue2.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Alas, poor Dreadwing. I knew him, Ravage.]]

Presumed dead for years, Soundwave arrived on [[Mars (planet)|Mars]] one month after Megatron's death. He quickly took stock of the situation, scanning both [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing's]] remains, and an imprint of [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy's]] body. He contacted [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] after his battle with [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]], learning of the loss of Megatron and the All Spark, while informing Starscream that he had sent troops from his ship to Earth, with more waiting in stasis. As Starscream headed for the ship, Soundwave informed him he still had orders to follow. {{storylink|Alliance issue 2}} As more and more Decepticons made planetfall on Earth's surface, Soundwave assumed the form of a satellite and silently observed their operations from orbit. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4}}

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===Titan Magazines ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===
Soundwave appears unknown to the Autobots.{{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}} He commanded a small Decepticon cell, based out of [[Mars]]' moon [[Phobos]]. While nominally under the command of [[the Fallen]], the Fallen is merely in ''contact'' with the Decepticons and currently incapacitated. This left Soundwave free to do his ''own'' thing... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}}

[[Image:Titan4_Soundwaveinterrogate.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only... Oops, wrong movie.]]

One of his goals was to find the location of the [[Tomb of the Primes]]. The aging [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]] [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]] knew but would only tell it to the Fallen. ''Strangely'' unwilling to put the Fallen and Ransack in touch and ''oddly'' prefering to personally know the location of [[Matrix of Leadership|the key to a monstrous superweapon]] himself {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}}, Soundwave turned to the dormant Seekers instead. He directed [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] to [[Las Vegas]] to carve up one such Seeker for its "memory tree". He refused to explain the reason ''why'' to Grindor. When [[NEST]] showed up, Soundwave appeared contemptuous of them and their [[Human|whole species]], noting Transformers owned this world ''long'' before mankind. To Grindor, he simply said to get the memory tree to him and not get captured. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|Learning Curve}}

Later, [[Transformers Comic issue 2.2|on the Fallen's orders]], he directed [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] to find [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]], find out what they knew about [[the Fallen]]'s plans and who they'd told it to, and then terminate them. When Ravage had cornered Mudflap, Soundwave talked through him and attempted to interrogate the Autobot; this failed, with Mudflap not even being bothered about who Soundwave was. While the hit was a bust, Soundwave ensured the base was bugged. As a result, he discovered [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]] distrusted the twins.

[[Image:Titan6_SoundwaveIAm.jpg|right|thumb|250px|"[[Sanctuary|There you go]], fellas!"]]

This was something Soundwave found interesting {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}} and he hatched a plan to ensure the twins were believed to be traitors: which would ensure nobody would follow up on their intell! Somehow, he got [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] to [[Diego Garcia]] at the same time the twins were there. He then had [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] get captured, so that when he was taken to [[Diego Garcia]] Scorponok would free him. With the Decepticon attacking at the same time the twins were distracting Optimus and on top of previous acts, they seemed guilty and were taken into custody. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune}} Soundwave sent [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] to blow up the soldiers escorting the twins to orbitary exile, and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] parachuted in to convince them to defect. When [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] tracked down the twins - who had kidnapped [[Sam Witwicky]] in a failed attempt to convince him to speak to Optimus on their behalf - Soundwave finally landed on Earth and blasted the scout. Soundwave told the twins The Fallen would offer them sanctuary, something they seemed happy to accept... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.6|Outlaw Blues}}

[[Image:Titan7_Soundwave_GO!.jpg|left|thumb|200px|]]

Poor Soundwave soon had to put ''up'' with the twins, as they insisted on chatting through his briefings and dissing the other 'cons. He ''just'' about, through ominous glares, got them to pay attention to their mission: to capture Ransack and bring him in to be "re-educated". This, however, was all a big con on the twins: he just wanted them as expendable bait to draw out Ransack, so Grindor and Sideways could knock him out. Soundwave also spoke for the entire Decepticons when he said that if the twins survived any encounter, ''kill them anyway''. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}}

[[Image:Titan8_Soundwave_FWATT.jpg|right|thumb|200px|]]

Once Ransack was in his hands, Soundwave beat the snot out of him and demanded the location to the Tomb of the Primes. The Seeker still refused to talk, and insulted Soundwave as being a mere cog who could barely understand the big picture. He almost killed Ransack for that, having to be held back by Starscream (don't want the Fallen ''knowing'' you've killed his Seeker!), but the elder continued to mock him for believing he had freedom of action just because the Fallen was absent.

When the twins, revealed to hbave been faking their defection, returned to beat the crap out of the Phobos base, an annoyed Soundwave ended their brief success with overwhelming violence. Unfortunately, before he could kill the Autobots, Ransack took the opportunity to leg it; desperate to stop the Fallen from being informed of what he'd been up to, Soundwave gave chase and the Phobos base was abandoned. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}} As he's still around later, it seems Soundwave made ''sure'' Ransack never made it to the Fallen...

{{note|The following events occur in the Law and Disorder continuity.}}

[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] considers Soundwave to be an untrustworthy jerk who ''never'' pulls his weight in a fight. Megatron, however, loves the guy. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|#7's Law and Disorder}}
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===''Revenge of the Fallen'' film===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]] (English, Italian), [[Horst Lampe]] (German), [[Daisuke Gōri]] (Japanese)

[[Image:ROTF-Soundwaveface.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Next time, Gadget. Next time.]]
Soundwave received a transmission from [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]], who was tailing [[Mikaela Banes]], and instructed him to obtain a surviving shard of the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]] in her possession. He found a satellite transmitting a conversation between [[NEST]] and the [[United States military]]. Tapping into it with his tentacles to listen, Soundwave overheard [[Theodore Galloway]] mention another shard of the All Spark in storage at [[Diego Garcia]], and of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s burial in the [[Laurentian Abyss]].

[[Image:ROTF Soundwave ejects Ravage.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Ravage: Eject. Operation: [[Ruined FOREVER|Childhood rape]].]]

Formulating a plan, Soundwave waited until it would be nightfall on Diego Garcia, then ejected [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] (who was equipped with [[Scalpel]] and the [[microcon]]s comprising [[Reedman]]) to Diego Garcia to steal the shard. Once they had stolen the shard, they reunited with some [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicons]] and managed to resurrect their leader.

Soundwave remained in space, tapping into the satellite he had found. When Megatron decided to reveal the Transformers presence on Earth after killing [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], Soundwave issued the mobilization order to the waiting troops on the ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]''. As the Decepticons streaked toward Earth, Soundwave tracked down [[Ron Witwicky|Ron]] and [[Judy Witwicky]] in [[France|Paris]]. He called Judy on her cellphone, demanding to know where Sam was, which the human dismissed as a crank call by a pervert. This allowed the Decepticons to track them down and capture them to use as bait for Sam.

[[Image:SoundwaveSatellite.jpg|thumb|300px|Yes, yes, you fans all thought about ''[[Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]'' when you saw me do this.]]

When the CIA discovered that Sam was in [[Egypt]], Soundwave relayed the information to the Decepticons. During [[Operation: Firestorm]], Soundwave blocked the satellites covering the Egyptian area, making things appear normal. General [[Morshower]] was unconvinced though and got other local informants to know what was happening at the [[pyramid]]s. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}

{{note|In the comic, Megatron rendezvous with Soundwave after killing Optimus, making the demand for Sam Witwicky himself, which Soundwave broadcasts through the satellite he clutches. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen Movie Adaptation issue 2}}}}

After the events of Revenge of The Fallen, Soundwave went to the trouble of reviving his minion Ravage.
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==Games==
===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Jessop]] (English)

====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====
=====Autobot campaign====

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=====Decepticon campaign=====
[[Image:ROTF_360PS3PC_DLC_Soundwave.jpg|thumb|250px|]]

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{{Note|On [[August 27]], [[2009]], Soundwave was made available as a playable character (for multiplayer games) as optional downloadable content for Xbox 360 and Sony Playstation 3 owners. However, instead of the silver colour scheme established on his regular release toys and movie appearance, the character model was coloured blue, like [[Generation 1]] [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and the [[Toys"R"Us]]-[[exclusive]] Soundwave figure from the ''Gathering at Nemesis'' figure pack. His special attack consisted of a deployable turret that generated earthquakes, a reference to [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]], who was one of Generation 1 Soundwave's tape minions.}}
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==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===

====Legends Class toys====
*'''Soundwave''' (Legends, 2009?)
[[Image:ROTFLegends Soundwave.jpg|right|300px|thumb|No matter what mode you put him in, he is always ready to get down and dirty with unsuspecting satellites.]]
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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:Soundwaverotfpreviewtoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|War fork!]]
*'''Soundwave''' (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RD-04'''
**''Accessories:'' 1 Ravage missile

:Part of the initial Movie Preview wave, Soundwave is a [[Triple Changer]], transforming into a satellite and a Cybertron jet, which are not exactly what could be described as "distinct" from one another. In all three modes, Soundwave features a spring-loaded missile launcher which fires a missile intended to resemble [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]], in reference to the scene in the film in which he launches the feline fiend down at Earth. In his (rather stocky) robot mode, Soundwave has blue light piping in his visor, but it is disabled, having been painted over in red; his other modes feature a second, armored version of his face, which is stored on the back of his robot mode. Probably to avoid giving the toy a very obviously two-headed robot mode, the alternate face lacks any paint details, and has an unpainted blue visor. Soundwave features numerous red and gold [[Paint operation|paint application]]s which are ''very'' cleverly and subtly positioned around his body to replicate similarly-colored and -positioned details on the [[Soundwave (G1)|original Soundwave toy]].

:The configuration for the satellite mode depicted in the toy's instructions is not the way Soundwave appears in the film, featuring a different angling for the panels on his shoulders. It's not a big change, but transforming the toy in accordance with his movie appearance ''does'' help to distinguish the jet from the satellite a little, since otherwise, virtually the only difference is in the positioning of the large panel "wings".

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/Soundwave/soundwave.htm More information on Soundwave at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:ROTFtoy-GatheringattheNemesis.jpg|right|thumb|300px|You can get him in blue, but you gotta get those other guys, too!]]
*'''Gathering at Nemesis''' (Figure multi-pack, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' 1 Ravage missile

: A [[Toys"R"Us]]-[[exclusive]] three pack (technically four pack if you want to count the Ravage missile), also featuring The Fallen, and a silver Voyager Class Megatron from the first movie toyline. Soundwave is [[redeco]]ed in predominantly blue as an homage to the [[Soundwave (G1)|original Soundwave]]. The Fallen was unchanged from his original release.

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*'''Soundwave Black Ver.'''{{fact}} (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' 1 Ravage missile

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*'''Battlefield Bumblebee Vs. Infiltrator Soundwave NEST set''' (Deluxe 2-pack, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' 1 Ravage missile

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==Merchandise==
===Burger King===
[[Image:ROTFMerchandise-BurgerKingSoundwave.jpg|thumb|right|200px|]]
*'''Seeking Soundwave''' (2009)
**'''Accessories:''' 2 blue solar panels
:The [[Burger King]] version of Soundwave is a representation of the communications satellite which Soundwave hacked into in the movie. The dishes have tendril details added to them. Peering into an opening in the top gives a sort of periscope effect, although as there is only one mirror, everything looks backwards.
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==Notes==
[[Image:EarlyMovieBlackout.jpg|right|200px|thumb|A Soundwave-headed Blackout from an animatic.]]
[[Image:Rotf-soundwave-face.jpg|thumb|right|200px|This [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|guy]] would love to tear this head off, wait.. you're sure this is Soundwave's real head?]]
* Soundwave was originally supposed to feature in [[Transformers (2007)|''Transformers'']]; he fulfilled both [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]]'s roles, hacking into the CIA headquarters as a portable stereo, then [[size changing|morphed]] into a Humvee to track down [[Sam Witwicky]].<ref>Details from an early script draft [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showpost.php?p=2213120&postcount=297 summed up here], [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showpost.php?p=2214148&postcount=303 confirmed as authentic by Roberto Orci here].</ref> [[Michael Bay]]'s decision to minimalize the amount of morphing in the film resulted in a change to a helicopter who openly attacks the army. Soundwave and [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] were changed to [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] and [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] as the film's location was changed from a jungle to a desert.<ref>[http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showpost.php?p=234188&postcount=2008 Roberto Orci confirms that Ravage was replaced by Scorponok at the official movie boards]</ref><ref>[http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showpost.php?p=234188&postcount=2008 Roberto Orci confirms that Ravage would have appeared in a different terrain at the official movie boards]
</ref> Soundwave's name remained attached to the separated portable stereo character for a while, but Hasbro felt the resulting character did not properly represent the original Soundwave—he was first renamed Soundbite, but eventually ended up with the name Frenzy.

*According to the trade paperback, Soundwave was a major character in the third draft of ''[[The Reign of Starscream]]''.

* In early drafts of ''Revenge of the Fallen'', Soundwave came to Earth and scanned a black Chevrolet Silverado pick-up truck form. Hasbro based the Cybertronian satellite form's robot mode on this abandoned concept, particularly a Cybertronian version of the Chevy grill and small headlights on the lower torso. [[Josh Nizzi]]'s heavily G1-esque head design was also used (although the final head design was also incorporated in a manner akin to anti-[[kibble]]). Hasbro's description and arrangement of Soundwave's toy as a triple changer runs counter to the filmmakers' intent to introduce the technology in the next film.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-will-not-feature-triple-changers-165854/ News from TFW2005.com on September 23, 2008,] detailing [[Roberto Orci]]'s confirmation that there would be no triple-changers in ''Revenge of the Fallen''.</ref>

*Even though [[Frank Welker]] returned to voice Soundwave for the movie, his voice was not vocoded, but rather synthesized in the same way all the other Transformer voices in the movie were. Because of this, the voice he uses is much closer to that of "The Cave of Wonders" from [[Wikipedia:Aladdin (film)|Walt Disney's ''Aladdin'']] and Darkseid from The Super Powers Team: Galactic Guardians, both voiced by Welker. However, in the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' video game, Soundwave's voice ([[Peter Jessop]]) is vocoded in a manner similar to that of ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]]'s first voice, only with a more musical tone.

*[[Frank Welker]] voiced Soundwave not only in the English version of ''Revenge of the Fallen'', but also in a large number of foreign dubs, including the Italian one. Welker described the process as "very hard".<ref name="welkernewsarama">[http://www.newsarama.com/tv/090915-Animated-Shorts-Welker.html Newsarama interview with Frank Welker], September 2009.</ref> Althouth Welker is also credited in the German dub of the movie, German dubbing insiders insist that the voice heard in the actual movie is by someone else (Horst Lampe, who also dubbed ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated]]'' [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]]), presumably as a last-minute decision because Welker's "German" performance was considered sub-standard.<ref name="germandub">[http://215072.homepagemodules.de/t511643f11775323-Transformers-Die-Rache-Transformers-Revenge-of-the-Fallen-7.html German dubbing board thread about ROTF, with a discussion about Soundwave's voice]</ref>. Welker is also credited in the Spanish dub (which character he voiced is not listed, but it was most likely Soundwave).

* Soundwave is unique among the Decepticons introduced in ''Revenge of the Fallen'' because he survives ([[Scalpel]]'s fate is ambiguous in the film itself but he was clearly scrapped in the [[Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|two]] [[Revenge of the Fallen issue 2|adaptations]]). All the others are presumably killed, meaning if all our information only came from the films, then the only Decepticons alive are the original triad of Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, along with the oft-overlooked [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]].

* Soundwave was included as a downloadable addition to the roster of the Revenge of the Fallen Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 video game, along with several ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' homages and fellow movie character [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]]. Soundwave's special abilities deploy an aerial jammer pod that looks suspiciously like [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], and an AOE pod that continuously smashes the ground with piledrivers; undoubtedly a nod to Generation 1 [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave's]] minion [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]. According to concept artist [[Ken Christiansen]], his appearance was based more closely on the Deluxe class toy than his movie design.

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[[Category:Decepticons]]
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Talk:Flatline (ROTF)

2010-01-11T22:51:09Z

195.169.205.162: /* Morale? */ new section

Happy to see an article for this guy. No trivia section, though? Sadface. He could be a hearse, guys! --[[User:Malunis T|Malunis T]] 01:34, 6 January 2010 (EST)

== Morale? ==

Might just be speculating, but he doesn't seem like a complete monster to me. He may be on the Decepticons' side, but judging by his appearance, he apparantly has a sort of moral base, being against unneccesarily killing any of his subjects. (could also be because they make interesting subjects, but he doesn't look sinister to me)

Talk:Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)

2009-12-11T10:15:08Z

195.169.205.162: /* It does seem like a seperate continuity */ new section

Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)

== It does seem like a seperate continuity ==

I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?