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Talk:Scrapmetal (ROTF)

2012-02-23T04:13:26Z

199.60.104.18: /* Scrapper Unit */ new section

Does it really need to be "'''Ze''' little one"? As opposed to "Little one" or "Little Constructicon"? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 02:24, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
:Probably for comic effect since that's all he's been identified as in the film itself, not unlike The Fallen constantly having the "The" preceeding the name, or other such articles. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:26, 13 July 2009 (EDT)

::It has the benefit of leaving no question who the article refers to.
::Also-- I'm not entirely sure about the "looks like Scrapper, but has a different altmode." The scene in the film is clearly the product of two different 'shoots,' with backgrounds and vehicle positions not matching up, and the long shots showing different vehicles than the close-ups. A lot of the confusion about The Little One's identity comes from that-- there's a truss crane in some of the shots that's simply not there in others. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:22, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Perhaps, but in the shots it's featured in, it has a blatant Decepticon sigil on its side. We see no such thing with the loader. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:25, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Our best evidence, if we take everything 100% literally, is that he's a triple-changer and transformed between shots. Or scanned a new altmode between shots. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:54, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::Our best evidence, if we take everything literally, is that G1 Soundwave is a triple-changer capable of transforming into a perfect facsimile of Sideswipe's robot mode between shots.
:::::It's a good thing we ''don't'' take everything 100% literally, because the inability to recognize a mistake as a mistake would be crippling. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:07, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:::It seems too unlikely to me that a red excavator transforms into a Scrapper-like robot - for one thing, there's no known example of a Transformer changing colour between modes in the Movieverse. It's possible that Scavenger was originally intended to join the others before they finalised his alt-mode, as occurs in some of the adaptations such as ''Rise of the Decepticons'' where the main image on the ROTF Constructicons page comes from. Given that the vehicle-shots before Devastator transforms don't match up with the transformation itself, I'm of the opinion that it's another editing goof and 'ze little one' is simply a Scrapper unit. (Which, given Rampage is smaller than him, puts Scalpel's eyesight into question...) [[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 08:18, 30 July 2009 (EDT)
::::The excavator is yellow, not red. It's not Scavenger's ginormous altmode, it's a smaller, yellow Volvo excavator. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:30, 30 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::Oops, you're right, my bad. I still think it's a editing goof, but the alt mode being smaller and the same colour does add more credibility to the theory. [[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 18:14, 30 July 2009 (EDT)
::Wait, how did an allspark fragment revive someone killed by the WHOLE allspark?
:::Maybe because he was alive when he got killed but was dead when he got revived (I know it sounds obvious but keep reading because I don't mean it like that) just like electricity, when your alive it kills you (stops your heart) but when you are dead (with a stopped heart) it brings you back to life (restarts your heart). Lightning is actually more powerful than a defibrillator.[[Special:Contributions/90.198.156.78|90.198.156.78]] 13:33, 28 July 2009 (EDT)
:::The same way a cup of coffee jolts you up but a hundred cups kills you. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:02, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Jetfire indicated that Energon has some anti-entropic qualities. Mass doses will blow shit out, but lower doses can bring stuff to life.
::::Just like unleashign the full power of the matrix can nuke Unicron, but a tiny fragment of the Matrix's finite power can act as an 'extra life.' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:07, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Would it be at all possible to ask Orci, Bay, or any of the other reliable sources on this in the same manner we ask Wyatt things? If not, could someone remember to bring it up at the next interview with them (if there's room)? The compromise we're using works for now, but it is kind of iffy, and a clear explanation from someone in charge should clean this right up.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:35, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Not that I'm against that or anything... But it seems blatantly obvious just from the context of the movies. "No Optimus! Don't put the cube in your chest! It's PURE ENERGY!" *Sam puts cube in Meg's chest* "Aaaaaaaaaargh!" *melt melt melt melt melt* (by the way, heat is a form of energy). Considering the cube was used to power up all of Cybertron... Yeah, the whole thing was probably too much for anyone to handle all at once. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 03:49, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
::::I don't think Orci would be interested in that like Wyatt. In [http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2009/07/ask-orci-final-edition.html an interview] he was asked to clarify Devastator and he said, "I suppose since we didn't commit either way, I wouldn't want to tie the hands of future writers with my non-canon opinion." - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:13, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

== Screentime ==

Rampage and Demolisher got whole scenes to themselves, and Mixmaster at least had that thing on top of the Brooklyn Bridge, as well as being the focus of every panning scene with the Constructicons. Long Haul I think was also there for a while in the scene with Simmons, and is easily more idenitifiable than the other Constructicons in most of the scenes including them. Honestly, even if ze little one ''was'' Scrapper, he got barely any screentime whatsoever - I had to be looking for him in the desert scene, once I knew he appeared there, to even see him, and Hightower and Overload didn't appear at all in robot form. As such, I don't think that the Q&A thing can be claimed to explicitly identify Scrapper as distinct from ze little one with the wording it uses.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 05:41, 12 August 2009 (EDT)

== Ze little one body-type as left leg ==

Okay, right from the start, I'll admit this is completely baseless speculation. However, with the exception of Kickback (who might share Rampage's alt-mode, both being bulldozers), there are no other Constructicons that only have a single body-type, and it's been noted in several places that a single Rampage is too small to create Devastator's left leg. ZLO is a yellow tracked construction vehicle with a similar mass to Long Haul, and since we never see exactly what becomes the left leg in the movie...

I know there isn't a Volvo excavator in the scene where Devastator forms, but then, there's only one bulldozer and it's commonly thought that at least two Rampages make up Devastator, and the vehicles-rolling-up section doesn't match the transformation section of the scene anyway. I also know that all the official information on Devastator lists Rampage as the left leg component, but then the film contradicts that ''anyway'' as it clearly shows him becoming the left hand, and if two Rampages do form the leg then that also contradicts the single-Rampage-as-leg canon. Might as well throw out crazy ideas since there's no official consensus on which Constructicon does what. [[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 06:48, 15 August 2009 (EDT)

== Is all this speculation neccesary? ==
This is kinda pointless. Does it really matter what his actual name is? There are hundreds of other autobots and decepticons on Earth in this (like most, if not every) continuity that haven't been even talked about in the fiction, of course with not one being given a name. So what's the difference if this character has an actual name? {{unsigned|70.100.243.71}}
:It's fun. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:53, 2 September 2009 (EDT)

== Screenshot ==
Not sure if this is any good to anyone - [http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f269/TomPrankerd/ZeLittleOne.jpg]
--[[User:The Ideon|The Ideon]] 03:54, 28 September 2009 (EDT)
:Looks pretty good to me, especially since we don't have a mainpic for this guy yet. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 11:20, 3 October 2009 (EDT)

== Scrapper, ze Little one and Constructicons ==
On the ship we see 2 shots. A short shot with a wheel loader and several shots with the Volvo excavator. The Excavator has longer shots (more screntime), clearly has a Decepticon logo and even gets a close up and even movement. Therefore it is safe to assume that the loader only see for a very short time in a overhead shoot is a mistake and the excavator is the corect alternate mode. So this means that this robot can't be Scrapper because Scrapper is a wheel loader.
Judging on Devastors proportions Scrapper is one of the bigger constructicons, bigger then Mixmaster and Rampage so couldn't be referred to as 'little one'. Note that the loose Long Haul is a diffirent (bigger) truck type then the combining truck so can't be used for reference. Scrapper is seen in the desert battle and chasing Sam and Mickaela in the village so was clearly not dead (well untill being bombed by aircraft).
It is unclear whethere there are multiple contructicons of each body type. The combining vehicles were never seen in robot mode nor do they speak or show any signs of being seperate sentient beings, they simply combine. Devastator could simply be a seperate robot with an alt mode that splits into several construction vehicles.
Although the appearance of Grindor and a Decepticon identical to Bonecrusher indicates that it is possible to have multiple identical Transformers (unless these were in fact revived Blackout and Bonecrusher). If Devstators components are seperate robots then some of them would have survived as not all of Devastators parts were destroyed.
There is a concept art by [[Paul Ozzimo]] shows a robot similar to Scrapper but who has clearly tracks (on his right arm and seen on the right side of his back) instead of wheels.
Parts of Ze little one were used to repair Megatron, which after that Transformed into a tracked vehicle, indicating the constructicon killed had tracks. But perhaps they also used parts of Brawl's body. But if Brawl's body was close why would they bother to kill a constructicon and use his parts? Maybe they used a spark to revive Megatron and Brawl was dead for to long for it to be usefull.{{unsigned|84.105.192.220|07:47, 3 October 2009}}
scrapmetal is also seen side hightotwer. {{unsigned|66.157.50.68}}
:When? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:35, 21 January 2010 (EST)

== Screen shot of technical errors ==
I got a [http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3291/2mkv002332703.jpg pic] which can be used for [[Scrapmetal (ROTF)#Notes]] and [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)#Filming / editing / technical errors]]. But it still need another image (in which ze little one's alt mode is a Volvo excavator) to be made into a picture like [[:Image:Grimlockhead_ud2.jpg|this]]. (I haven't got DVD, so I can't finish the job. Thus I can only provide a picture.) --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 02:52, 21 October 2009 (EDT)
:I'd like an image actually of Scrapper in robot mode jumping off the boat ahead of the others: so eager, yet so doomed. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 04:03, 21 October 2009 (EDT)
::Umm, I looked at the Main pic with Scrapmetal underwater and at the top of legs, he has wheels of a front loader there, and he has feet that of Scrapper's. [[User:Erimal|Erimal]] 16:46, 11 June 2010 (EDT)

== Size ==

It looks to me like the smallest Constructicon was Mixmaster. Is this an error?--[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 18:47, 17 November 2009 (EST)

== Not ze little one ==

Im pretty sure that this guy is bigger than Scrapper and Mixmaster. So calling him Ze little one would be an error.--[[User:LesterX|LesterX]] 17:26, 13 December 2009 (EST)
:It's the only designation we have for the character. Also, you don't have to be the smallest Constructicon to die. You just need to be the slowest. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 17:58, 13 December 2009 (EST)

==We have a name.==
[http://www.tfviews.com/news/main/hasbro-q-and-a/641]. [[User:Onslaught Six|Onslaught Six]] 21:51, 23 December 2009 (EST)
:Well, what do you know? We actually have a name that is both Transformerish ''and'' descriptive! -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 21:53, 23 December 2009 (EST)
::That is so not fair! Why couldn't we get THAT Hasbro guy to answer our Constructicons Q&A question?! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:56, 23 December 2009 (EST)
:::Hasbro appreciates the fans' enthusiasm and support of the Transformers brand. To that end, Hasbro now solicits questions on a bi-monthly basis from leading fan web sites. Hasbro looks forward to responding to your questions!
:::(or to put it another way, NO) -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 00:02, 24 December 2009 (EST)
:::No clue, frankly I was surprised they answered it at all. I asked on a whim because we couldn't come up with anything better. I actually fully expected "We dunno! There is no name!" [[User:Onslaught Six|Onslaught Six]] 01:53, 24 December 2009 (EST)
:His name is very descriptive. It could serve as his complete known bio! But they could have been a little more definitive. "On our side, we like to call 'Ze Little One' Scrapmetal." Is that an official name or an official designation? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:01, 24 December 2009 (EST)

== Scrapper Unit ==

Why don't we have him listed as Scrapper, again?--[[Special:Contributions/199.60.104.18|199.60.104.18]] 23:13, 22 February 2012 (EST)

Talk:Soundwave (WFC)

2012-02-23T04:04:25Z

199.60.104.18: /* Shockwave (DOTM) */

== Triple Changer? ==

Ok, we all know that Soundwave can transform into a Spy Rig-class Cybertronian truck, right? Well, right before his boss fight against Optimus and his team, he is briefly seen in the form of a Cybertronian device similar to a tapedeck, much like his original G1 counterpart's Earth mode. Does this mean he's a Triple Changer or is that just an interface mode like when you use the mounted turrets? --[[User:Cydra|Cydra]] 21:19, 4 July 2010 (EDT)
:As per our standards, we do not classify anyone as a "Triple Changer" (proper noun) unless they are specifically labeled as such. Lots of TFs have third modes who are not Triple Changers. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:31, 4 July 2010 (EDT)

== Toy Image ==

I'm not going to switch out the caption just 'cause I feel like it, but every time I look at the image, all I can think of is, "BECAUSE YOU ARE HEADCRAB SOUNDWAVE!"--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 19:09, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

==Cybertron Adventures==

Soundwave discovers that the Autobots have infiltrated the Datacore. Megatron sends him and Barricade to take care of the intrusion. The two speed out, and Soundwave must navigate a highway overgrown with Dark Energon crystals while dealing with swarms of Aerialbots before they can shut off access to the Datacore. An Autobot Destroyer blocks Soundwave's path and brings the roof down, forcing him to take an alternate route. he makes his way to a security station and downloads the information on the Autobots' advance, radioing Barricade to meet him at the assigned coordinates. When Soundwave arrives, though, he finds Barricade in the middle of a shooting gallery. The Autobots are soon joined by an aerial Destroyer, but the pair make short work of it. Soundwave intercepts a data download but cuts it off quickly, and races to intercept the escaping Autobots. Weaving his way through Dark Energon crystals and moving walls (huh?), he reaches the intercept point in time, causing Ironhide and Bumblebee to skid out of control... and right into a fusion blast from Megatron.
This is here because I cant figure out how to put this on the page-- [[<noinclude>User:</noinclude>Kuptrion]]

== Other Figures ==

Doesn't WFC Soundwave have an RPM figure and a Stealth Force figure? --[[User:Spongezilla|Spongezilla]] 4 August 2010 (EDT)
:I'm pretty sure that RPMs and Stealth Force are exclusive to the movie universe. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:14, 4 August 2010 (EDT)
::Hm, they used his Video game robot mode, and Inferno appears to be from the Classics Universe. Gah, the 2010 line is all screwed up. -- [[User:Spongezilla|Spongezilla]] 00:07, 5 August 2010 (EDT)
:::I'd say the Stealth Force figure is the movie guy, even though he has the WFC robot mode and the Animated vehicle mode. His bio talks about how he used to be a satellite and how he's just come down to Earth for the first time. That points to movie continuity to me. (Meanwhile, Stealth Force Silverstreak and Hound are clearly the G1 guys.) ((This should probably go on the Stealth Force page.)) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:48, 5 August 2010 (EDT)
::::Well, given how the RPM/Speed Stars image at the bottom, and the package photography on the Stealth Force toy all represent WFC Soundwave... I'd say they're toys of this Soundwave and not ROTF Soundwave. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:23, 9 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::You're well late, it's discussed on [[Soundwave (ROTF)]]. Still, what with [[repurposing]], we can discuss it here too. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:37, 9 October 2010 (EDT)

== Voice Actor ==

If he doesn't have one then there's no point having it there. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 11:29, 29 November 2010 (EST)

== Quote ==

Could we not consider Starscream and Knock Out's exchane in Sick Mind for Soundwave's main quote? It fits with Soundwave's role as... well, the eyes and ears of the Decepticons, as the spy.

"That blasted Soundwave sees and hears everything."
"The eyes and ears of the Decepticons." {{unsigned|72.190.7.46}}

==toy picture==

It's here http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/transformers-prime-soundwave-wheeljack-and-cliffjumper-at-nycc-173564/

It's "reining in", you guys. You ''rein in'' a horse. Reigning is something a monarch does.

==Shockwave (DOTM)==

Soundwave (Prime) is silent, he doesn't show any signs of sentience when someones talks to him, except moving his head to say no or yes, he just stands and watches.
He's apparently dangerous : Airachnid seems to have given the autobots the hell of a run in previous episodes, and he owned her.
Shockwave in the movie : the same. ( well apparently in prequel comics he kills and kills and kills. )
Should we point the similarity in the Notes ? Is it on purpose that two of the most popular characters EVER bear similarities or is it a coincidence ? [[User:SnipinScientist|SnipinScientist]]
:Well... no. "Soundwave doesn't speak, just like Shockwave in the Dark Of The Moon movie" is really not a noteworthy thing. There's lots of Transformers who don't speak. That doesn't make them identical/homages/noteworthingly similar. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:32, 18 February 2012 (EST)
: Decepticons who don't speak in the live-action movies are a dime a dozen. I suppose we could also note that Soundwave (Prime) is just like Movie Blackout, Bonecrusher, Ravage, Scorponok, all seven/eight/nine Constructicons, Sideways, all the protoform warriors, Crowbar, Crankcase, Hatchet... but at that point we're just being friggin' ridiculous, wouldn't you say? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:13, 18 February 2012 (EST)
::Bonecrusher, Demolishor, Mixmaster and Rampage did speak.--[[Special:Contributions/199.60.104.18|199.60.104.18]] 23:04, 22 February 2012 (EST)

Talk:Soundwave (ROTF)

2011-06-01T02:51:53Z

199.60.104.18: /* Quote */ new section

==Toy in stores==
* I just got Soundwave in a shop in Belgium, is that even posible when this page says it's not on shelves now?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 15:51, 28 March 2009 (EDT)

== Whaa? ==

What happened to my edit? I added a mainpic then it just disappeared {{unsigned|Ikkwave}}

:The picture was crappy so it was removed. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 06:01, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

:Oh ok XD [[User:Ikkwave|Ikkwave]] 01:02, 19 June 2009 (EDT)

== Head in ROTF ==

Anybody else agree on Soundwave's head in the movie actually being that armoured decoy head the toy has on the back? Looking at the toy that matches far more with what I saw on screen, but I'll know for sure near end of this week when I go and see it again.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 06:51, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

-The head in ROTF looks like a cross between the two.--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 10:59, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
==Toy shoulders==

:''The configuration for the satellite mode depicted in the toy's instructions is not the way Soundwave appears in the film, featuring a different angling for the panels on his shoulders. It's not a big change, but transforming the toy in accordance with his movie appearance ''does'' help to distinguish the jet from the satellite a little, since otherwise, virtually the only difference is in the positioning of the large panel "wings".''

What, exactly, is that referring to? Although many fans (and the official press photos) skip it, the toy's instructions '''do''' show a change in the shoulder panels' position between the jet and the satellite: that's the only way the satellite's panels plug into them. I tried to look at the shoulders the last time I saw the movie, but they looked like the properly transformed version. Before I just delete that section, can someone show me what I'm missing? --[[User:Buttbutt|Buttbutt]] 19:32, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

:Essentially, the toy shows the panels folded down against the shoulders - not bent in the middle and actually plugged into the circular grooves as they are for jet and robot modes, but straight, flat and downwardly-pointing. In the film, they're rotated 90 degrees, fanned out, with the large, flat side (with the orange circle) facing outward. Well, inasmuch as what you see in the movie looks anything ''like'' the toy. He's got two panels fanned out on either side of his head. I suppose, though, after a moment of reflection, that his panels shift and move about so much in the film that it might be a bit negligible. It's just that without it, the only difference between the two modes is bending the shoulder panels down a bit and clicking the large wing-panels into them. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:42, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

==New main picture==

'Rise of the Decepticons' has a good double-page picture of Soundwave hacking into the American satellite, which I feel would be a better choice for main picture as it really embodies his role in the film. Would it be okay to change it, or does TFWiki have an unofficial policy that main pictures have to be of TF's in their robot mode? [[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 05:44, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
:Given that Soundwave doesn't use his robot mode in his most prominent fiction appearance, I think it would be fine if the article's main imagine was of his satellite mode. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 12:25, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
:Okay, seeing the actual picture in question... I don't think that makes a very good main pic at all. It is dominated by the actual satellite and not Soundwave himself. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:25, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
::I could crop it to focus entirely on Soundwave, although it looks a little odd as his main body is entirely on the left-hand side of the picture unless you crop the right wing too. I'm going to try a version where it's centered on his head and see what people think.[[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 18:09, 9 July 2009 (EDT)

== Repeat? ==

Did anyone else notice how two of Soundwave's scenes were the same? Specifically, his first appearance, and his last. Anyone? [[Special:Contributions/24.89.74.34|24.89.74.34]] 02:23, 10 July 2009 (EDT)

== Soundwave's Packaging ==
On the back of his packaging it says, "Cannon converts to blade!" Is it me or is there a lack of cannon?
[[User:Boxotron|Boxotron]] 12:32, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
:I believe that comes from ROTF Megatron's packaging? [[Special:Contributions/114.108.194.66|114.108.194.66]] 00:45, 8 June 2010 (EDT)

== New pictures ==

I found the ROTF screenshots from an [http://www.fxguide.com/article551.html FX Guide] interview with [[Digital Domain]]. If anyone could resize the screencaps for me or trim the black bars, since Photoshop doesn't work on my PC, that'd be much appreciated. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 07:22, 28 August 2009 (EDT)

== Rumble and Laserbeak ==

Should we make seperate pages for Rumble and Laserbeak? The two appeared as pods in the DLC for the game so thy deserve a page! and I don't care if they weren't officially named, half the animated characters are unnamed! like "freeway" "carerra" so lets make a Rumble page and a Laserbeak Page! there is no reason we shouldn't!{{unsigned|92.238.187.82|13:10, September 2, 2009 (EDT)}}
:If pages for them are created with enough effort put into them to make them presentable, they won't be deleted. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:45, 2 September 2009 (EDT)

Then lets do it!{{unsigned|92.238.187.82|15:07, September 11, 2009 (EDT)}}

They are in Nefarious 1, pictures requested.
-ThiAthEhn

== Is it really necessary? ==

Can we lose the tentacle rape line? What if kids are reading this?
: [[Kiss Players issue 1]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:07, 14 December 2009 (EST)
::What if ''non-Japanese'' kids are reading this? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:13, 14 December 2009 (EST)
:::Well, then we'll have to delete all the Kiss Players articles, won't we? I mean, if the word "rape" is unacceptable, then the visuals they include are right out, aren't they? ;-P - '''McFeely, not signed in'''
::::Sweet! Oh... You are being sarcastic. I suggested that a while back but Scout shot the idea down. Personally, I think KP should not be called attention to by linking from completely unrelated articles for the sake of a... joke?. Seriously, I don't think we're doing Hasbro any favors. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:38, 14 December 2009 (EST)
:::::Oh, I take no issue with idea of removing the word-linking. Joke works on its own without needing the link. I take issue with the whole "Think of the children!" argument. "What if kids are reading this?" is not a workable argument for removing something from the wiki when official things like ''Kiss Players'' exist. - '''McFeely'''
::::::If Hasbro were that concerned about children stumbling onto "inappropriate" Transformers content, maybe they shouldn't have had that blockbuster movie with the swearing and the humping and the testicles. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:08, 14 December 2009 (EST)
:::::::We totally need a screen shot of the satellite with a caption along the lines of "Why what's such a fine little satellite like you doing all alone out here in space?", also I think my image caption is awesome and it should stay the way it is. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 14:30, 14 December 2009 (EST)

-I think we should at least remove the line from the main-pic. I think a more appropriate line would be some sort of Space Invaders reference. Thoughts?--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 13:23, 27 July 2010 (EDT)
== Soundwave RPM ==

Why isn't it listed among his toys and merchandise? could someone please give me a coherent answer?.--[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 23:00, 16 March 2010 (EDT)
:"No one has gotten around to it yet". It's been officially revealed, both at Toy Fair 2010 and on [http://bwtf.com/node/1304 BWTF], so that's not an issue in this case. It might simply be a matter of waiting for the Hasbro stock photography to be released. (I forget who does most of the RPM updates... abates or apoc, I think?)
:Anyway, you might try adding "please" next time. Your statement came off as a bit impolite. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 23:20, 16 March 2010 (EDT)
:Sorry, was in a rush, tried to add the toy to the page but remembered to ask first before making any important edit--[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 01:18, 17 March 2010 (EDT)
::I have already seen the toy in MercadoLibre (the mexican equivalent of eBay) and there's still no photo of RPM Soundwave? BTW, I believe his Legends toy needs a description, I'll take of it later.--[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 22:27, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
:::Turns out he was released in Mexico and other countries judging by the package. I'll give more info and photos when I get him. [http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/MLM-51015853-camioneta-soundwave-transformers-metal-heroes-164-metal-_JM]
::::It actually looks like the RPM release of Soundwave (and maybe the last two waves of other RPM product) was canceled for the United States (and probably Canada). We've only heard about them otherwise being released in the Philippines, and the Speed Stars (white card) version of Soundwave is already in stores. I don't know if the RPM and Speed Stars version of Soundwave are physically different, but I know they have slightly different bios. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 22:38, 23 August 2010 (EDT)
:::::I got him today (ironically, at the closest supermarket from my home), and it seems that the tetralingual (intended for all countries outside the U.S. in America) release doesn't come with a bio, unlike the one released in the Philppines. He does have some deco differences compared to the Speed Stars version: the Speed Stars version lacks paint in the doors, as well as the chest, arms, legs and face of the "robot" mode unlike the RPM release that has this fully painted and the plastic in the bottom of the car is cast in a different color: the RPM version is bronze while the Speed Stars version is golden. The robot mode looks like WFC Soundwave, so I suggest this toy is also listed or noted in that page, (Soundwave (Prime)), however, the RPM bio identifies him as ROFT Soundwave, I haven´t read the Speed Stars bio so Í'm not sure about that toy's identity. Oh, and the RPM release has "Soundwave-Audio" written on the inferior part of the doors in adition to having the tail lights painted (in red)-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 19:01, 7 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Do we consider RPM/Speed Stars Soundwave the same character as ROFT Soundwave? Oh, and the rest of the Metal Heroes have just been released in all local supermarkets in my area.-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 04:00, 16 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::::Despite his oddball design, the bio and "Paramount Pictures" logo seem to suggest he is ROTF Soundwave in a new Earth mode. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 04:51, 16 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::The Stealth Force toy lacks any Paramount Pictures logo or information anywhere on its packaging, though. Indicator that it's meant to be G1 or WFC/Prime? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:46, 15 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::I spotted him in a store today, and his bio starts off (and I'm paraphrasing because at $20 I wasn't game to buy one) "He may have left his post in orbit to join his fellow Decepticons on the ground..." which implies to me that he's ROTF Soundwave. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:51, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::::Well again there's no Paramount or Dreamworks logos anywhere... Don't have either bios handy (trilingual packaging here means I don't see bios until after I've opened a toy) I wonder if there's any similarities between the Generations WFC Soundwave bio and the Stealth Force one. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:25, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::::I'm guessing they get to skip on using the Paramount/Dreamworks logos, because there's no connection in appearance to movie Soundwave, plus they're not using ROTF branding any more. SF 'Wave's bio is all about his sonic weapons, while WFC 'Wave's bio is all about how he's a storehouse of knowledge, so there's no similarities I can see. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:45, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::::::I found some photos of RPM Soundwave, but they are from an user of TFW2005 [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-toys--products-30/transformers-rpms-metal-heroes-series-released-in-the-philippines---in-hand-review-of-rpm-soundwave-169276/]. Should we use them?-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 17:15, 3 May 2011 (EDT)

== Quote ==

I highly recommend changing the front page quote to "Too many sonic booms! Can't absorb-"--[[Special:Contributions/199.60.104.18|199.60.104.18]] 22:51, 31 May 2011 (EDT)

Cyber Missions 1

2011-06-01T02:48:23Z

199.60.104.18: /* Trivia */

{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Cyber Missions|Transformers: Cyber Missions]]'' #1
|next=Cyber Missions 2
|image=CyberMission1-Bludgeon.jpg
|caption="To a master of Metallikato, your episode download is almost slow motion!"
|title=
|production company=[[TG Studios]]
|animation studio=[[TG Studios]], [[ArtDuck Studios]], & [[Meanlow Studios]]
|written by=[[Scott Beatty]]
|executive producer=[[Aaron Archer]], [[Erin Hillman]], & [[Michael Verrecchia]]
|airdate=[[January 21]], 2010}}

'''It's better than [[Action Blast 1|Action Blast]]!'''

==Synopsis==
At [[NEST]] command, [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] review some [[data tracks]] [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] has made on the history of the [[Autobot]]-[[Decepticon]] war for preservation in [[Vector Sigma]]. Suddenly, an explosion occurs outside the base. Ironhide goes to investigate while Bumblebee is left to lock down the important datatrax. But as Ironhide leaves, [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] breaks into the base in his satellite mode, overwhelming Bumblebee with a sonic attack. Soundwave gloats that Optimus will regret leaving the smallest Autobot to guard NEST command.

Outside, the Decepticon [[Bludgeon (ROTF)|Bludgeon]] roams the jungle... until Ironhide drives right into him! He had been hoping to have a go with Bludgeon, and decides to use an appropriate human phrase: [[Robert Epps|BRING IT!]]

Inside NEST command, Bumblebee fires at Soundwave, but the Decepticon absorbs the sonic boom and sends the acoustic energy right back at him. Bumblebee decides to use a rapid fire assault, and Soundwave is unable to repel all the sonic booms from Bumblebee's weapons. Within moments, the Decepticon falls.

Outside, Ironhide looks for Bludgeon, who uses a tree to send Ironhide flying. Bumblebee then contacts Ironhide to inform him of Soundwave's attack, but Ironhide tells Bumblebee to sit tight: this is between him and Bludgeon.

To be continued...

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] (1)
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] (2)
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] (3)
|c2=*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] (4)
*[[Bludgeon (ROTF)|Bludgeon]] (5)
}}

==Quotes==
"You know, I was kind of hoping it was you, Bludgeon. What's that human phrase? BRING IT!"
:—'''Ironhide''' to '''Bludgeon'''

"Noooooooo! Too many sonic booms! I can't absorb—!"
:—'''Soundwave''' starts a new Internet meme.

==Notes==
===Animation or technical errors===
* Soundwave's colors kind of change around from scene to scene.
* Optimus Prime's voice cuts off at "for" when he says "once and for all".

===Continuity errors===
*Soundwave refers to Bumblebee as being the Autobots' smallest soldier, which isn't true in this continuity, as he is taller than [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]], [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]], [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]], to name a few.
*Optimus Prime says that the Autobots are the keepers of the [[AllSpark (Movie)|AllSpark]], but by the point this episode happens, the AllSpark technically does not exist any longer, however Optimus could mean the AllSpark fragments.

===Transformers references===
* Oh, hey, [[Vector Sigma]]. [[Alpha Trion (ROTF)|Alpha Trion]].
* Ironhide is based on his Recon Ironhide toy, Soundwave's robot mode on his Infiltration Soundwave toy, Bumblebee uses his shoulder cannons from Battlefield Bumblebee, and... well, it's a [[N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]] toy commercial. Surprise!

===Foreign dubbing===
'''Cantonese'''
:*''Original airdate:'' [[March 3]], [[2010]]

'''Latin American Spanish'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Ciber Misiones 1'''" ("Cyber Missions 1")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[September 6|6 September]] [[2010]] (Official airdate)

===Trivia===
* Soundwave's one weakness is automatic weaponry.
* This episode and the rest of the Cyber Missions up to episode 8 were accidentally leaked on the Hasbro Mexico website days before the first episode's official airdate in that country.
* Optimus Prime's empty stare is frightening.
*TOO MANY SONIC BOOMS!

==External links==
*[http://www.hubworld.com/transformers/shows/cyber-missions/videos/transformers-cybermissions-1 ''Transformers: Cyber Missions'' #1]
*[http://www.hasbro.com/es_MX/play/details.cfm?guid=66AD1334-19B9-F369-1031-6DFE2176FD4F&src=endeca ''Transformers: Ciber Misiones'' #1 (Spanish version)]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlU4WY0GMq8 ''Cyber Missions'' #1 (Cantonese version)]

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