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Talk:The Search for Alpha Trion

2011-06-16T16:27:28Z

199.71.183.2:

Hey, this story summary was awesome, especially back when [http://www.tfarchive.com/cartoons/rhino/season2b.php#6 I wrote it exclusively for the TFArchive]. I'll ask Denyer if he minds that material I wrote for his site (well, not *his*, but he's the major contributor) gets reprinted here, but I discourage using the stuff without permission. If I felt like it was okay to use my summaries I'd have posted them myself. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 00:11, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

:Gah... yeah, the anonymous editor who posted this obviously hasn't read the help files. If Denyer's okay with it, you can vette this since you are the original author, but honestly we could also simply delete the article until/unless somebody wants to write something original. Especially since the pasted text isn't even in our standard format, lacks categories, etc.. We can leave it up to you, since it's your work. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

::We don't figure to own submissions (and'll take stuff down if people decide they really don't want it online with us, unless it's already licensed free-for-NC / public domain, etc) so with apologies to Spengs I'm gonna pass the question back.

::As far as I'm aware, everything here has to be GNUFDL -- if material was given to a site to post first and then okayed for here, I don't think there'd be a problem as far as that angle went. If anything was used here first, it couldn't be posted to another site without GNUFDL coming along for the ride. (But assuming the original was somewhere else, further work on that would be derivative of the original rather than the virally-licensed document.) Am I right so far? I'm more used to the GNU software licenses, and prefer CC flavours for text because they keep people credited, it's easier to know who did what, and the authors can allow use in future (eg, in a club magazine) without it having to have an FDL release attached.

::Whatever he wants to do, it's definitely a good idea to beat wiki newbies with a stick until they grasp the "don't just copy and paste content without asking authors" and "everything here is relicensed" bits... --[[User:Denyer|Denyer]] 11:29, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

*Ah, cool. Thanks for registering to talk about it. I suppose I'm more irritated the dude didn't ask for permission, but so long as *all* my summaries don't wind up here without me being asked at least once, it doesn't bug me. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 17:44, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

(Hello, I am new here.) I was just watching this episode and I noticed something that I think might count as an error, though I'm not sure what to put it under. It's when Alpha Trion is attempting to repair Elita One. From the dialogue and the context, I get the impression that Alpha Trion was supposed to work for a while, then return to Prime and tell him that there's only one (sexy) solution. But the way it's cut, it seems more like Alpha Trion took two seconds to figure out he had no clue what he was doing before telling Prime that he had to sex her back to health. It's like there's a missing "Autobot to Autobot" transition or something to suggest the passage of time. Legitimate error or just my imagination? --[[User:BWII Moon|BWII Moon]] 16:16, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

==Caption change==
I propose that we change the caption of the picture of Elita kicking Astrotrain to "Boot to the head!" [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 00:25, 30 September 2010 (EDT)

==Optimus flashback==
"When the Ark launched back in "More than Meets the Eye, Part 1", there was no indication of a Decepticon attack on the launch site, as this episode's flashback shows."

How do you know this? Are you sure it's the same moment in time? How do we know it's not a previous instance of the Autobots fleeing in the Ark while under Decepticon attack? [[Special:Contributions/199.71.183.2|199.71.183.2]] 12:27, 16 June 2011 (EDT)

Talk:The Search for Alpha Trion

2011-06-16T16:26:42Z

199.71.183.2:

Ironhide (G1)

2008-04-14T17:27:11Z

199.71.183.2: /* Dreamwave comics continuity */

{{disambig3|Ironhide}}

:''Ironhide is an [[Autobot]] and a [[Maximal]] in the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Ironhideg1guido.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Properly pronounced "Arn-hahhhd."]]

'''Ironhide''' is one of the oldest and toughest Autobots, and has been on [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s team for a long time. "They don't make them like they used to" is an apt description of Ironhide -- he's yesterday's model, but he's built to last.

Gruff and ornery, he prefers actions to words, and dislikes talk for talk's sake. (He wouldn't enjoy being paired up with [[Bluestreak]].) But though he may be rough around the edges, he's still optimistic and upbeat. The upside to being through more than your share of trouble means trouble ain't so big a scare anymore.

Ironhide's most distinctive ability is the power to generate and shoot a liquid of virtually any type. Liquid nitrogen is historically a favorite, but there have been acids, mortar, and more.

{{quote|When are we gonna start bustin' Deceptichops?|Ironhide's version of diplomacy|''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''}}

:''Hungarian name'': '''Acélfej''' ("Steel-head")
:''Italian name'': '''Falco''' (''Rock me, Primadeus!'')
:''French-Canadian name'': '''Rhino'''
:''Hungarian Movie name'': '''Vaskezű''' ("Ironhand")

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
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====''Another Time and Place''====
Ironhide was part of a commando unit sent to [[Hydrus Four]] after the Dinobots. He and a small group of Autobots surprised [[Fangry]] and tore him limb from limb. {{storylink|Another Time and Place}}

====Generation 2====
When Optimus Prime and Grimlock discovered the threat of the [[Cybertronian Empire]], they called in Autobots scattered across the galaxy, including Ironhide. And, when Grimlock chose to disobey Prime's directives and make a tactical first strike against [[Jhiaxus]]'s ships, Ironhide went with him. They were quickly found out and captured, though, leaving it to Optimus to bail them out of trouble. {{storylink|Devices and Desires!}}

Later, when Prime had the brilliant idea that Megatron would be willing to "just talk" after laying waste to much of the planet Earth, Ironhide joined the rescue party Grimlock threw together to bail him out. {{storylink|The Gathering Darkness}} He was also involved in the defense of Ethos. Ironhide took several shots to the chest while protecting that world, and was apparently killed {{storylink|Escalation!}}

===Animated continuity===
'''Voice Actor:''' [[Peter Cullen]] (US), [[Shô Hayami]] (Japan)

[[Image:Ironhideg1.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Holy cow. He'll chew you up and spit out rivets.]]

Ironhide was part of the bridge crew of the [[Ark]] when it embarked on its fateful voyage to seek out new sources of energy beyond [[Cybertron]] four million years ago. It crashed on Earth, and all aboard were in stasis until 1984, when a volcanic eruption awakened the dormant Transformers. Ironhide was reformatted by [[Teletraan I]] so that his alt-mode was a terrestrial Mitsubishi van.{{storylink|More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1}} In addition to his role in maintaining the security of the Autobot headquarters on Earth, Ironhide would embark on numerous missions to stop the Decepticons on their energy-raiding strikes around the planet. When the Decepticons churned the currents of the river blocked by Sherman Dam to raise its energy output, it resulted in high tides that threatened the surrounding neighborhoods. Ironhide, with the help of [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], used his built-in laser cannon in van mode to cut a new series of tributaries for the raging river to flow into.{{storylink|More Than Meets the Eye, Part 2}}

Later, when the Decepticons escaped being buried in the [[Ruby Crystal Mines of Burma|Burma ruby mines]], a flustered Ironhide took to the air in pursuit. He even managed to score a rocket strike against [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], which only earned him a similar strike in return. Ironhide crash-landed into a lake, where he suffered back-end damage to his linkages. The immobilized Ironhide was fished out of the lake by [[Bluestreak]] and [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], and he recovered under the administrations of Doc [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]].{{storylink|More Than Meets the Eye, Part 3}}

On a later mission, Ironhide was assigned guard duty while the rest of the Autobots tested Wheeljack's new device, the [[immobilizer]]. Distracted by a visit from [[Carly]], Ironhide soon learned that the Decepticons ambushed Optimus Prime and the Autobots and stole the new device. Blaming himself, Ironhide resigned from active duty, a resignation Prime accepted with some trepidation. While still "retired" Ironhide swam down to Decepticon headquarters to rescue the captured Carly, was immobilized, then re-mobilized, recovered the immobilizer from Megatron, helped save the Autobots, then destroyed the device. His request to be put on active duty again was wholeheartedly received by his friends. {{storylink|The Immobilizer}}

After Optimus Prime suffered a debilitating attack and needed a replacement part from Cybertron to survive, Ironhide led the team that recovered the part and escaped Decepticon attack. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer}}. Ironhide led another Autobot team to Cybertron to follow Optimus Prime after he left unexpectedly to rescue [[Elita One]]. When his team arrived via the spacebridge, Starscream announced that he has killed Prime by melting him down in a vat of acid. Ironhide angrily ordered the Autobots to attack and avenge their fallen leader. During the battle, they met up with Elita One's [[Female Autobots]], which gave Ironhide a chance to reunite with his old gal [[Chromia]]. {{storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}}

Ironhide's experience and wisdom came in handy. He stopped the Autobots from firing on and destroying the real Optimus Prime after they are fooled by Megatron’s Optimus clone. {{storylink|A Prime Problem}} When Mount St. Hilary erupted due to Cybertron’s proximity to earth, Ironhide plugged the eruption by causing an avalanche. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 2}}

Ironhide could be a hothead at times. When humans banned the Autobots from earth for crimes they didn’t commit, the Autobots ended up on a spaceship heading to parts unknown. Ironhide blamed Optimus Prime for their predicament and almost led a mutiny. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2}} Ironhide also had little patience for "[[Aerialbot (G1)|younger]]" Autobots who think they knew better than him or Optimus Prime. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2}}

[[Image:Ih-okay.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Look sir, Droids!!]]
In the year 2005, Ironhide was on a shuttle along with a group of other Autobots headed for Earth when the shuttle was attacked by [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and a team of [[Decepticon]]s. Ironhide bravely fought off the Decepticons, but was not powerful enough to stop the enemy, and he was mercilessly killed by Megatron.{{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie (1986)}}

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===Dreamwave comics continuity===
Ironhide and [[Kup]] go way back, having served with [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] under [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s command. They even broke off from the main Autobot faction during Prime's absence in the Dark Ages, choosing to serve Grimlock and his [[Lightning Strike Coalition]] rather than work under Prowl.

Nobody likes Prowl.

He was part of the Ark's original crew four million years ago, and awoke with the rest of them in 1984. After the crash of the [[Ark II]], however, Ironhide was among the Transformers secretly acquired by [[Lazarus]] as a potential weapon of mass destruction for sale. He was tortured and heavily damaged by the Decepticons when they broke Lazarus' control over them, and was unable to immediately aid Prime and the others against Megatron. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 4}}

Sometime after Ironhide was repaired, the united Cybertronians arrived on Earth and took him, Optimus, and most of the Ark's crew prisoner as alleged rogues who threatened their homeworld's peace. Many Autobots on Cybertron questioned the beneficence of their "commander", [[Shockwave]], and had organized into several insurgency cells. Ironhide and the 'Bots linked up with them, and successfully retook [[Iacon]] for the Autobot cause, forcing out Shockwave and his followers. {{Storylink|Revelation}}

In the days that followed, Ironhide, Prowl and Kup attempted to coordinate things on Cybertron, but gratefully stepped aside once Ultra Magnus had finished his repair cycle. The Ark's old crew then made plans to return to Earth and construct a new Autobot City as their base of operations on that planet. {{Storylink|The Route of All Evil}}

===IDW comics continuity===

Back before the war, Ironhide was part of the Security Services. He attend the funeral of [[Bumper]] and [[Fastback]] with [[Chromia|a familiar fembot]], and listened to [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]'s eulogy/rally call. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3}} It's unknown if he was present for the raid against Megatron's gladiators, but he was on the streets with Prime and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] during the Battle of Kaon, when the Autobots tried to halt the Decepticons. Ironhide was dishing out justice the old fashioned way—with his fists. He was with the Autobots that contacted [[Iacon]] when Sentinel's body was deposited in front of them, and Prowl ordered an evacuation. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4}}

In the present, Ironhide is second-in-command (under Prowl) of a detachment of Autobots that has operated covertly on Earth for at least four years, attempting to foil a Decepticon insurgency. He is an experienced tactician whom Prowl consults for advice. Although more bound to the regulations than [[Ratchet_%28G1%29#IDW_Comics_continuity|Ratchet]], he's still willing to bend the chain of command for the right reasons, sending a pulsewave to Optimus Prime behind Prowl's back. {{storylink|Infiltration}}

Ironhide was assigned the task of escorting a trio of humans back from the Autobots to their homes alongside [[Sunstreaker]], carrying [[Jimmy_Pink|Jimmy]] and [[Verity_Carlo|Verity]]. He became separated from Sunstreaker, who was immobilized and seemingly destroyed in an ambush by the [[Machination]]. Once it was revealed that the debris recovered from the Machination was not that of Sunstreaker, Ironhide suggested himself for the search mission to find Sunstreaker's whereabouts as he felt he owed it to him, but his wishes were dismissed by Optimus Prime. Proving his willingness to break the chain of command if needed, Ironhide disobeyed his orders to remain and monitor Decepticon activity, joining Ratchet, Verity and Jimmy in their attempts to uncover the fate of Sunstreaker and [[Hunter O'Nion|Hunter]]. However, while removing Verity and Jimmy from a building that was due to explode, Ironhide was caught in the explosion, and went M.I.A. {{storylink|Escalation}}

After Optimus Prime returned from his meeting with [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Hot Rod]] learned that Ironhide was due to be crushed and compacted at a human dump, and went to rescue him. They ran into some [[Headmaster|problem]]s on the way there, however. They prevailed, and after Optimus Prime received word of the incident on [[Garrus-9]], he ordered [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] to retrieve Hot Rod and the others. Hot Rod refused to go though, wanting to see the Headmaster mystery to the end. Hardhead reluctantly let him go and took Wheeljack and Ironhide back with him. {{storylink|Devastation}}

===IDW ''Beast Wars''===

Ironhide serves on the Maximal Imperium, alongside [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]. Leadership seems to have robbed him of a bit of his gusto, although according to [[Big Convoy]] he is 'right honorable'

===IDW ''[[Hearts of Steel]]'' continuity===
Ironhide participated in the pursuit of [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] (his name is written on the side of his altmode, a military boxcar), but did not speak or contribute to the fight. {{Storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 4}}

===''Timelines: Descent into Evil'' comic===
[[Image:Ratchetironhidedescent.jpg|right|thumb|Amazingly not dead.]]
Years after the Autobot-Decepticon Wars ended, Ratchet and five other Autobots were sent to [[Ceti Alpha Seven]] to destroy General [[Deathsaurus]]' [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]] clone lab and stop his planned Decepticon uprising. After a team of four (consisting of [[Outback|Fallback]], [[Chromia]], [[Flareup]], and [[Ricochet (Descent into Evil)|Ricochet]]) failed, Ironhide and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] followed to help. After battling swarms of [[Virulent Clones]] and [[Buzzclaw (Timelines)|Buzzclaw]], they finally met up with Deathsaurus himself. Ironhide stayed to fight the general, and Ratchet separated to find their fallen friends. However, Ironhide was shot in the back by [[Flamewar]] and he went into stasis lock. Ironhide woke up restrained inside Deathsaurus' lab with Ratchet, while Deathsaurus appeared to them on a monitor and told them he planned to destroy the lab by remote. Before the lab could detonate, Ricochet snuck in and freed them, allowing them to gather their fallen and escape.

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Ironhide''' (1984/1991/2001/2007)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''98'''
[[Image:Ironhide.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Sit on my face and tell me that you love me.]]

:Ironhide was part of the original assortment of [[Autobot]] cars released in 1984. His mold was originally used to create a ''[[Diaclone]]'' Nissan Onebox Cherry Vanette. The ''Diaclone'' line of toys were not meant to depict sentient robots, but rather human-controlled machines; the Ironhide and Ratchet-predecessor toys are the ones that most clearly show evidence of this. Rather than a head, these toy robots had chairs behind windscreens where the human rider would control the robot. When ported into the Transformer toyline, it was both the Ratchet and Ironhide figures that differed the most from their animated incarnations, as the cartoon versions did away with all traces of the human-controlled design to give the robots proper faces and heads.

: Ironhide was reissued in Europe as part of their Classics line in 1991, and released in Japan from [[e-Hobby]] in 2001.

: In mid-December 2007, he was reissued again as part of Takara's Transformers Encore line. This particular version came with an illustration on one box flap depicting Ironhide's cartoon-design head and chest windshield. By punching out the image along the perforated edges, folding it just so and tucking it in behind the toy's windshield, one could obscure the circuit-board "face" on the driver's seat and give the toy a "real" head that resembled the animation design a little more closely.

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* '''Protect Black Ironhide''' (2008)

:e-Hobby is currently scheduled to release a New Year Special [[Exclusive]]: [[Transformers Encore|TF Encore]] Black Protect Ironhide. (In smoother, less loaded English, it would probably be Protective Blackcoat Ironhide. Hurray for cultural distance.) The toy will be priced at 4725 yen. Pre-orders are being taken until Jan. 11, 2008, with a projected shipping date of April 2008.

:The text on e-Hobby's page for the toy (see External Links, below) indicates the black coloration is meant to homage Ironhide's original Diaclone version, but between the release of Emergency Green Ratchet and a hint in Ironhide's new [[bio]], it's easy to see this is also an homage to [[Ironhide (Movie)|the new movie Ironhide]]. The packaging will be the same as the regular TF Encore Ironhide's.

:According to his bio, Ironhide got the black protective coating to disguise himself from both Destrons and members of the human criminal underworld when he's acting as Convoy's bodyguard. Not a few of his fellow Cybertrons have whispered to him that he looks like a [[Sector Seven|"Men in Black"]] vehicle, but Ironhide insists he got the idea from the deep black coloration of pickup trucks he saw around town. The coating, a composite gel metal, has made his trithyllium steel skin even more durable, allowing him to self-repair minor injuries right away. His robot/mobile artillery forms are now 25% more maneuverable than before, and he can handle even the worst of roads using his three-legged Marauder Mode. (This likely refers to the mode using the robot portion perched on top of the mobile artillery "battle sled.")
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===Generation 2===
* '''Ironhide''' (Go-bot, 1995)
[[Image:G2Gobot_Ironhide.jpg|right|thumb|130px|Not a Gateway.]]

: Part of the second wave of [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bots]] focusing on G1 characters, Ironhide transforms into a silver Ford F150 Flareside pickup truck. Using through-axle contruction for his wheels, he is compatable with most "Hot Wheels" and "Matchbox" playsets and tracks.

: The mold was a [[redeco]] of ''Generation 2'' Go-Bots toy [[Motormouth]], and was later redecoed into the ''[[Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Spy Changer]] [[Ironhide (RID)|Ironhide]], the ''[[Universe]]'' Autobot [[Ironhide (Universe)|Ironhide]], and the second ''Universe'' incarnation of [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]].

* '''Ironhide''' (Power Master, 1995)
[[Image:G2Powermaster_Ironhide.jpg|left|thumb|130px|Both robot mode and vehicle mode at once!]]

: ''[[Power Master (G2)|Power Master]]'' Ironhide was one of the last toys in the ''Generation 2'' line, and was only released in Europe, Australia, and New Zealand. Oddly, the Australia and New Zealand releases were in US packaging, complete with [[Hasbro]]'s Rhode Island address.

: Ironhide (barely) transforms from a grey camouflaged Humvee into a dorky robot. His main gimmick is his "Power Master" pull-back motor, which you use by pulling back on his motorized rear wheels, then placing one of his guns into one of the holes above the doors, which releases a catch and allows him to zip along a smooth surface.

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===Beast Wars===
*'''Magnaboss'''

: Ironhide transforms from an elephant into a robot. Two removable guns are hidden behind the beast mode's ears. These guns can be plugged into the holes at the bottom of Ironhide's stump arms. In addition, [[Magnaboss (BW)|Magnaboss]]'s heel struts can be used as giant spike weapons, as Ironhide's arms become Magnaboss's legs.

: Ironhide can combine with [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], his package buddies, into Magnaboss.

: Ironhide was slightly redecoed to create [[Santon]].

:The toy packaging gives no indication as to who the Magnaboss components are as characters. Their being Generation 1 characters was established by [[IDW]].

===Timelines===
* '''Ironhide''' (''Descent into Evil'' boxset, BotCon 2005)
[[Image:TimelinesIronhide_toy.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Red, red, and also red.]]

: A [[BotCon 2005]] convention exclusive, ''Timelines'' Ironhide was only available in the ''Descent into Evil'' boxset. He is a [[retool]] and redeco of ''Energon'' [[Tow-Line (Energon)|Tow-Line]], with a newly sculpted head resembling his G1 animation model. When not in vehicle mode, Ironhide splits into a robot mode and a battle sled. Like Towline, Ironhide can [[powerlinx]] with any other powerlinxable Deluxe or Mega from the [[Energon (toyline)|''Energon'' toyline]] or with his battle sled. He comes with a blue [[Energon weapon]].

: Ironhide's retooled mold was also used for ''Timelines'' [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]].

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===Attacktix===
*'''Ironhide''' (2007)

==Notes==
*It has been speculated by some fans that, in animated continuity, Ironhide may have been created from Orion Pax's friend [[Dion]], the same way and at the same time [[ Optimus Prime (G1)|Prime]] and [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]] were rebuilt by [[Alpha Trion]].
:''For further elaboration, see [[Dion#Who_is_Dion.3F|Who is Dion?]].''

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Ironhide/ironhide.htm Ironhide at TFU.info]

*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Ironhide Ironhide's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

*[http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/cgi-bin/omc?port=33301&tno=11964126283JGBV&req=PRODUCT&code=tfe27 e-Hobby's page for the upcoming Black Protect Ironhide]

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