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Where's Chromia? She is confirmed! I added her why is she gone? And what about Ratchet? {{unsigned|Godziboy1993}}
:They haven't been "confirmed". They got stolen from factories in China. That is not an official confirmation. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:58, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

Ok, this is ridiculous. Yes it IS AN OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION. She was even in the god damn trailer! And why isn't Ratchet and Longhaul up on that either? Stolen from factories give me a break. Put them back on. [[User:Godziboy1993|Godziboy1993]] 21:55, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

Oh and Barricade is on there too. His toy was stolen from a factory. Why the hell not Chromia, Ratchet, and Longhaul.
:Because it is '''illegally acquired information'''. That simple. We'll add them once Roberto Orci confirms their presence, or Hasbro releases ''official photographs'' of the toys. To find out more, refer to [[Help:Official info]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:10, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

== Paramount pictures cast list. ==

[http://l.yimg.com/img.omg.yahoo.com/omg/us/img/83/a2/9019_3705651155.jpg?y=660&x=616&q=75&n=0&sig=Zvqw8NxIBWHyJFhaLEhOeQ-- This poster] looks like a pretty official cast list. FFN, you think it's dubious? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 06:50, 2 April 2009 (EDT)
:Well, for a Starter, Overload should be added to the list of constructicons. {{unsigned|GUIGUI|17:20, 2 April 2009 EDT}}
::I agree, they didn't pull that name out of the æther. But it might be premature to spell it "Longhaul", or move The Fallen to the Decepticon column, or move Jetfire to the Autobot column. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:31, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

I really do not understand how this is set up. Why is Demolisher a seperate character? Who is the 7th constructicon when only six are shown combining into Devastator?{{unsigned|Godziboy1993|19:36, 6 April 2009 EDT}}
:Who knows? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:40, 6 April 2009 (EDT)

== Japanese world premiere. ==

With the premiere in Japan, does that mean ROTF characters are <nowiki>[[Category:Japanese-original characters]]</nowiki>? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:50, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
:You'd better be joking. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:12, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

==Transmitter at official site==

What was the necessary stuff to log in again for the Transmitter? I can't remember if it was Derik or Detour that had posted up some things for it... Not that it's updated much. << >> --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:45, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

==How about an actual article?==
This thing is basically a list of info. Why isn't this a bit more organized, like on Wikipedia? And is the stuff about the Writers' Strike really neccesary? I'd edit it, but I do not appear to have that privilege. [[User:Jim Java|Jim Java]] 16:56, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
:Yes it's a list of info, because right now all we have is info. It's better than Wikipedia's page because it focuses on confirmed news only and not rumors, stolen toys and third-hand reports. Yes, the stuff about the Writer's Strike is necessary, since it did affect production of Revenge Of The Fallen. No, you can't edit it, because the page is protected on account of so many anonymous users and new users making additions based on rumors, stolen toys and third-hand reports. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:28, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

:In about a month and a half, this article will get a total top-to-bottom re-write, when... y'know... we see the movie. Till then, there's not a lot of point in dramatic changes; they'd just be swept away under the deluge of information that we'll have when the film is released.
:That said, I feel your pain. "Writer such-and-such has envisioned a storyline involving the Constructicons" seems like a ridiculous bit of information to have right upfront at this point in the game, when we've ''seen them in the trailer''. '''ETA:''' If you'd seriously like to have a go at cleaning it up, you could always set up a temp page somewhere. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:33, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

::At the same time, I don't really see the point of doing a page like the Wikipedia. We'll never be able to compete with them in terms of sheer information on things like production, and were are restricted by our rule of only using information that has been released by Hasbro/Takara, Dreamworks, Paramount and their partners (and they generally don't release much in the way of information). Besides, as I've understood this wiki, our focus is on the ''content of the fiction itself'' and ''the characters'' starring in it, which is what differentiates us from the Wikipedia. We're not really here to tell people about how the director of photography and camera personnel filmed the 2007 movie on a mechanical bull or something. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:06, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

Could we at least organize this in paragraph form? It wouldn't take very long, but it would look way better. Just thought I'd ask. [[User:Jim Java|Jim Java]] 20:50, 11 May 2009 (EDT)
:I don't think that would make the article better at all. The article as-is is a list of things. Making that list into a big block of text is not going to help anything. We don't need to pretend that this article isn't a list. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:18, 11 May 2009 (EDT)
::I'm gonna throw my hat in here and tell you to just wait. It's like Repowers said, give just over a month and the entire article will be totally redone top to bottom, just like you want Jim Java. Until then look at the Wikipedia article, I'm pretty sure they have it broken into paragraphs and make it an "actual article" as I'm sure you're insinuating.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:22, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

==UK Release 19th June = World Premiere==
As I write this the UK will be getting this a whole week before the States. So like, can we come and get started on the articles, or will there be Dubya-like emphasis on US civil (=Spoiler) liberties? [[Special:Contributions/82.7.126.27|82.7.126.27]] 12:58, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
:I figure it'll be okay if articles are filled out following the UK release. After all, most of Animated Season 2 aired a week early in Canada, and we still updated those pages even though they hadn't aired stateside yet. As long as media is officially released in a language we can understand (unlike that whole Dubai incident last year), it's fair game. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 01:40, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

== World premiere was today, June 8, in Japan ==

As the title says. Do we need a new, updated "No spoilers" disclaimer in this article and maybe also on the main page?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 16:35, 8 June 2009 (EDT)
:Yes and yes and then some. We should have heavy disclaimage on ALL the in-movie character pages, and also make them--as well as, obviously, this page itself--off-limits to anonymous editors. (Also, holy shit, am I actually editing on IE now? Miracle!) --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 16:47, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

==Score==
Should the score's info be added? Samples are up at [http://www.amazon.de/Transformers-Revenge-Fallen-Score/dp/B002DDIXLA/ref=sr_shvl_album_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1245109298&sr=301-2 Amazon Germany's listing]. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 20:04, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

== Bay wanted to have German soldiers in the movie, German government said "no" ==

Source: [http://newsticker.sueddeutsche.de/list/id/657558 Press conference from German premiere]

Translation:

:''Bundeswehr soldiers in the cinematic end fight between humans and alien machines: That's how Hollywood warhorse director Michael Bay ("Armageddon") had planned it for his action flick ''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen''.''

:''But German authorities threw a monkey wrench in his plans. The Bundeswehr soldiers at an Air Force base in the American desert state of New Mexico had been thrilled, "but unfortunately, the German government said no", the 44 year old director said at Sunday's German premiere of the science fiction flick. The cooperation with the US Department of Defense, on the other hand, hadn't been a problem - he had a direct connection there.''

Will probably work it into the article once we go from pre-release to full article.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:14, 16 June 2009 (EDT)

:What? Germany isn't allowed to -have- a military.{{unsigned|173.11.36.165|10:02, 24 June 2009}}
:: You shouldn't be able to state such garbage [[Special:Contributions/122.107.178.246|122.107.178.246]]
::You are [[wikipedia:Bundeswehr|mistaken]], sir.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 11:29, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

==Errors and Inconsistencies==
I've just seen the film. I'm not sure how the final ROTF page will look, but if the previous movie is used as a template, then I can suggest NOW that the Errors/Inconsistencies section be spawned off onto its own page? [[User:Drmick|Drmick]] 19:52, 20 June 2009 (EDT)
:Basic outline here: "Revenge of the Fallen (film)/outline". Not sure when we should drop it in, but it should be soon. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:13, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

== Unnamed Decepticons ==

Do we have any way of getting names for the unnamed decepticons, like the Ravage hairballs seen in the trailer and comic-books? The movie's not going to help, as it was ''incredibly'' lax on providing names for characters.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 03:31, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

== Mysterious voice credits ==
Frank Welker is credited as "Reedman" along with Soundwave and Ravage, and Kevin Michael Richardson is both one of the Primes and "Skipjack". Do we know who these characters are? It doesn't help that both actors are known for Random Monster Noises roles. -[[User:LV|LV]] 03:53, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:Edit: I may mean Soundwave, Devastator and Reedman. The point is, Reedman: WTF? -[[User:LV|LV]] 04:06, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::I too saw those credits and wondered... but, I could also swear that I remember someone, maybe Ironhide, saying the name "Skipjack" aloud at one point in the film (at one of the base scenes, maybe?). For the life of me, though, I can't think of the context it was in. --
:::Did we happen to catch credits for Demolishor, Rampage, or any other growly-roary-types? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:24, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::::Devastator clearly said "DEVASTATOR!" during the big overhead shot of him slowly bearing down on the twins. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:37, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::I definitely interpreted that as Megatron shouting "DEVASTATOR!" at Devastator for no particular reason. As for Demolishor...he must have had a voice actor, since he had actual dialogue, but I don't recall seeing it. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:15, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::Yeah, I couldn't decide if the roar of "DEVASTATOR!" was Megatron, or if Devastator had decided to declare his own name for some reason (which wouldn't be ''that'' odd, given that Megatron did it in the first movie). - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:40, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::It sure sounded like Megatron's voice to me. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:16, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::I'm also with that Megatron's the one calling to Devastator. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 01:45, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::Surely he was calling to get Devastator to stop playing with the humans and come wreck up the pyramid? [[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 10:50, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::In the IMAX it was clearly Megatron based on where the sound was coming from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:49, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
Demolisher is in the credits as Wheelbot. But I kept missing it. First time, some dickhead at the back started sticking his hands in front of the projector and blocking it. As for Devastator, he NEVER speaks. Megs yells Devastator's name. Welker just handled roars and snarls (some blatant Welker animal noises are in there)[[User:Eire]] 15.57 25th June 09

:Reedman ''has'' to be the raptor-like thing formed by the [[microcon|ball bearing bot]]s. He's a reed-thin man.
:Sweet, nice to know he has a name. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:41, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::This seems to be corroborated by the Decepticons DS game (not the best source, given the divergence of video game plots, but an official one): before the mission to steal the All Spark shard you're told that "Ravage and Reed Man" have been sent ahead to secure the target... presumably referencing the skinny con's theft of the object in question. --[[User:Inevitable Betrayal|Inevitable Betrayal]] 17:44, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Any chance you can get an exact quote on that? (Because it seems to present Reedman has his own character, rather than a remote probe controlled by Ravage, and I'd like to be able to cite it.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:56, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::::I'm afraid not. The dialogue popped up on the map screen between missions instead of within the mission itself, so it's not replayable, and I was surprised enough by it the first time I didn't think to write it down. I could start another file and play through to that point again (though I'd rather not, it's a bit of a letdown compared to the first movie's DS games), but at the moment all I can say for sure is that it referred to them as a duo, "Ravage and Reed Man," with Reed Man parsed as two words like that, not one.--[[User:Inevitable Betrayal|Inevitable Betrayal]] 02:35, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:Well jeez! Sounded like a people-name! I wonder who "Skipjack" is, then? He... he couldn't be the little guy who gets killed for parts, could be? That guy didn't speak words, but he did make a sort of cry/yelp of protest as he was set upon. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:46, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::That was one of the film's legions of Constructicons. Probably not a "Skyjack." -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:54, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::''Skip''jack. But, eh, i'm just tossin' it out there. The identity of the sacrificial guy does not really seem to be confirmed - people are just assuming he's a Constructicon because the other three were Long Haul, Mixmaster and Rampage, and Hightower's vehicle was on the barge, but no-one's actually identified the guy based on his physical robot appearance (and as a dirty great crane, Hightower would hardly be "the little one"). - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:58, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::I paid attention to the "little one"'s silhouette when I saw the movie again yesterday, and it most resembled Scrapper. Particularly its skinny legs. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:16, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::::Let's see, that was about 40 minutes in so... ''*runs up MP3 of the movie's audio*''
::::No, the 'parts' con doesn't make more than a few Ewok burbles.
::::Could he be the jackhammer-Decepticon that kidnapped Ron and Judy? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:14, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::As it transpires, yes. [http://www.aciphex.com/ This interview] (search for "Skipjack") makes it pretty clear that Skipjack was the working name for the red bulldozer identified onscreen as Rampage. So it's a Demolishor/Wheelbot situation, apparently. Disappointing resolution, especially since it still leaves us with two bulldozers named Rampage. -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:47, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::I.... theeeenk you may have got your link wrong, there? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:10, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::[https://www.editorsguild.com/FromtheGuild.cfm?FromTheGuildid=84 He probably meant this one.] -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:22, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::THe sad thing is that I can't even come up with a funny rationale for the link to AcipHex here. (I was originally linking it elsewhere because the TV won't stop telling me to try Ass Effects - guess it stayed in my clipboard.) FAiled. -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:25, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::No, Starscream specifically calls him Rampage. (And he is Rampage.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:16, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::Wasn't Devastator already formed by that point? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:19, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Sure, but there were lots of Constructicons running around the same time as Devastator was formed (the group from the barge turn up with Ravage partway through the fight). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:31, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::It just sounds like a likely name for his color-swap. (Which in this case, i guess... was forming Devastator.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:16, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::''but no-one's actually identified the guy based on his physical robot appearance''
:::[http://deriksmith.livejournal.com/41048.html Some douchebag] posted bootleg screencaps of the Laurentian Abyss sequence on his blog.
:::While not appropriate for inclusion here as a ''primary source'', useful for IDing nonetheless. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:24, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
::::I should probably post what I did on LJ here. Re: the last photo - those claws don't look anything alike. That's no game-only generic. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:53, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::And ''I'' should probably post what I did on LJ here. The game-model and movie-model for Constructicon Scout are different (thus the clamps not matching) but Constructicon Scout is ''definitely'' in the movie. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:13, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
[[Image:Cs_scrapper.jpg|thumb]]
:::As Walky so bluntly put it-- "It's scrapper."
:::Or rather- the Constructicon Scout is based on Scrapper. An extra layer of confusion is added because the Scrapper toy lacks the giant arms that the CS has-- ''and'' [http://i44.tinypic.com/1zzji3l.gif the character in the movie has]. But since there's only one Scraper toy that Transformes, apparently we're treating his truncated arms as a concession to toy engineering.
:::So would it be ''more accurate'' to say that Scrapper ''is'' a Constructicon Scout? Or is physically identical to them? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:06, 27 June 2009 (EDT)
I don't know if this helps, but in the somewhat inaccurate comic version of the movie, Ravage, Long Haul, and Scrapper are clearly seen jumping off the boat, so it may mean Scrapper is "the little one?[[Special:Contributions/71.199.127.210|71.199.127.210]] 13:37, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
:Reviving this, I rewatched the movie recently and the vehicles were clearly Rampage, Mixmaster, Long Haul and a treaded vehicle (which Scrapper is not), which Allspark user Legend-of-Blackout [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=60532&view=findpost&p=1280204 identified as a Volvo excavator]. And also, based on the leaked design for Scrapper in that big Devastator pic from a few days back, Scrapper's arms are much thicker than the ones on Ze Little One. I have no idea what to make of this, but even if he just reuses Scrapper's robot mode model, his different alt mode would qualify him as a new character, would it not? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:32, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
::So it seems he isn't Srapper or Hightower. We need an article for [[Ze little one]] immediately. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:23, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

==It's UpGrade Time==
So, can we start working on this now or what? [[User:Eire]] 12.44 June 24 09
: Yes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:36, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

== Foreign titles ==

Are foreign titles usually included if they just mean "Revenge of The Fallen" in their own language? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:37, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
: They shouldn't be. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:45, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:: The frensh versin is called "transformers: the revenge"(le révange?)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 11:47, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::: That's different enough. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:48, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:::: The Brazilian title (Portuguese) renders as "The Revenge of the Defeated" when I put it through Google Translate. Is that different enough?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 12:35, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
::::: Inasmuch as "defeated" doesn't have the same additional connotations of "falling from grace" or "killed in battle" as the original English, I'd say so.[[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 10:47, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

== Trivia cull ==

One is long overdue in my opinion. Much of this "trivia" is snippets of news on who was cast, and has since been unequivocally confirmed and properly organized in the locations it ''should'' be.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:33, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

== Not-Bonecrusher ==

I'm assuming that the guy who wasn't Bonecrusher was actually [[Constructicon Scout]]. Is that a safe guess to go with? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:46, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
: I didn't see any Bonecrusher in the film. People just say they saw Bonecrusher's altmode, the Buffalo. No robot mode, far as I'm aware. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:48, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:: I think he was running around during the Egypt battle. You could see him standing behind some pillars. Since there were multiple Constructicons running around, this was evidently was not the very-dead Bonecrusher.[[Special:Contributions/67.242.198.238|67.242.198.238]] 12:07, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:::It was definitely a use of the CGI Bonecrusher model in robot mode. [[Special:Contributions/82.7.126.27|82.7.126.27]] 12:09, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
::::<nowiki>*swears*</nowiki> I was hoping it was the Constructicon Scout, but he has a different robot mode. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:14, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::You can definitely see Bonecrusher's vehicle mode rolling in with the other Decepticons. I don't recall seeing his robot mode, but then again, he looks quite similar in robot mode to a bunch of Constructicons. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 12:42, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
So I saw it again in IMAX. That's definitely Bonecrusher rolling in.
# His remains weren't among those being disposed of after the first movie.
# We've got a toy bio stating he survived.
# He's ''in'' the ^&*( second film.
Baring Hasbro releasing a redeco and declaring this a new character, it looks like Bonecrusher really ''did'' survive. And until that happens, I'm going with the face-value reading and removing the "a Bonecrusher lookalike" note in the cast list. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:01, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:Good points! I agree. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 00:05, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::I disagree. I think "a toy bio stating he survived" is completely irrelevant, as we got one of those for Jazz, too. That was definitely Bonecrusher's vehicle mode in ROTF, but I sure as hell don't think it was actually Bonecrusher, any more than I think that the helicopter was Blackout. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 00:23, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:::That is your personal canon. The fiction says otherwise. The toy bio is completely irrelevant iff it contradicts the movies. This time the movies back it up. It is willful blindness to say Bonecrusher isn't in the movie when he is right there. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:28, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::::It's willful blindness to assume similar alt means same guy, in a movie where a guy with Blackout's body-type is quite prominent. G1 colourd Jazz's bio says he survives. Brawl's got a ROTF repaint. He was decapitated and had his whole head smashed in. He's dead Jim. Writing a whole section of fiction you made up on Bonecrusher's page is madness. Give the toy bio it's own section and a note that we see his vehicle mode among the protoforms and leave it at that. [[User:Eire|Eire]] 15.28 30 June 09 (UTC)

== Character profiles ==

I'm starting to see descriptions of the character's movie role around the wiki. Is this okay yet? [[User:Crow T. Robot|Crow T. Robot]] 14:32, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:So long as you use the proper spoiler tags.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:34, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
::What about the articles that have the "do not add information" tags? Can we start to take those down? [[User:Crow T. Robot|Crow T. Robot]] 14:40, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:::The coming soon tags? Yeah, those were just waiting for the film release.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:46, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
::::Our policy on new releases is that if the media has been officially released in a language you can understand, you are well within your rights to be write up a summary, as long as you put up a spoiler tag. Like Wikipedia, we urge people to be bold, but be smart. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 14:55, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

== More Quotes ==

What other quotes do you want to use (i.e: "I RISE, YOU FALL." from Optimus Prime)?
: I really don't think the umpteenth regurgitation of the TFTM-quote-that-will-not-die is worth singling out for praise. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 27 June 2009 (EDT)

What does anyone think about the opening monologue by Prime as one of the captions? I can only remember so much, anybody got it?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:09, 6 July 2009 (EDT)
: “Earth. Birthplace of the human race, a species much like our own. Capable of great compassion... and great violence. For in our quest to protect the humans, a deeper revelation dawns; our worlds have met before.”

“For the last two years, an advanced team of new Autobots has taken refuge here under my command. Together, we form an alliance with the humans, a secret but brave squad of soldiers. A classified strike team called NEST. We hunt for what remains of our Decepticon foes, hiding in different countries around the globe.” [[Special:Contributions/122.107.178.246|122.107.178.246]]
:Exposition is notable?! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:13, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
::Doesn't quite have the ring of '''"BEFORE TIME BEGAN THERE WAS... ''THE CUBE''.'''" --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:16, 9 July 2009 (EDT)

==Five/Six Contacts Error==
Wouldn't this NOT be an error, since Ravge ejected Scalpel from his chest, thereby replacing Hightower? {{unsigned|71.179.155.170|07:44, 28 June 2009}}
:You mean Scrapper, who was the one killed. And yeah, that's what I thought while watching the film, though I wondered if Scalpel was actually large enough to register? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:48, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
::HAY GUYS - Hightower and Scrapper WEREN'T EVEN THERE. Four Constructicons jumped in - Red Rampage, Long Haul, Mixmaster and Small Excavator Guy. Unnamed dude was killed. Megatron, Scalpel and Ravage make six contacts surfacing.
::: Ahem, from Scalpel's page "...Using parts "donated" by Hightower..."
::: Anywho, the point is, wouldn't Scalpel's presence nullify the error? {{unsigned|71.179.155.170|08:41, 28 June 2009}}
::::It is neither Scrapper nor Hightower. I have since edited articles and have removed the error. The unnamed is a small Volvo excavator similar to Demolishor's vehicle mode as he was incorrectly depicted in the ROTF adaptation comic. It did not look like Hightower's truss crane. Also, sign off on your comments, it is difficult to know who is saying what. See the signature button next to the crossed out W? Click that. Thanks. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:24, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::Adding extra confusion: The possibility that the extra reading was Blackout.
:::::On my second viewing, it really looks like The Doctor ''strikes'' the shard in Megatron's chest rather than permanantly inserting it. Maybe they ''did'' revive Blackout. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:18, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::Grindor's from space. Megatron left the Constructicons, Ravage, and the Doctor far behind on Earth, and he traveled allll the way up to Saturn to visit the Nemesis. And what's he find in the Nemesis? Starscream and hatchlings. And next we see Megatron on Earth, he's with Starscream. And another guy. That guy was a hatchling. That guy was Grindor. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:20, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::He's also with The Doctor, who should be with Ravage and the Constructicons.
:::::::I don't actually think the Helicopter ''is'' Blackout-- I mean he has a '''different altmode''' fergods sake. If Bay intended it to be Blackout he'd have used the same helicopter, regardless whether it'd been retired or not. And anyway- HASBRO clearly thinks that's Grindor.
:::::::I'm just trying to figure out what might've been goign through the movie production's head with that funny number. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:08, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::I imagine they filmed the blips on the radar approximately nine months before animating/rendering/writing the scene of the guys underwater. WHOOPS. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::Given that they went to the trouble of getting Welker for Soundwave and the forgot to put a vocoder over him, I could believe it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:46, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::Though considering Welker apparently didn't like what the G1 cartoon did to his Soundwave voice, it's possible he asked Bay to not process it, and Bay was cool with that. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:23, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::::Can I ask why it is stated as fact that Scalpel is too small to be detected by the submarine in the trivia section? Isn't that just speculation?[[User:Thelastallosaur|Thelastallosaur]] 15:32, 3 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::::Considering that sonar and radar work the same way, the smaller the object the smaller the signature. It makes sense that Scalpel--being about a foot long and tall--wouldn't be shown on the sonar. If you look at the screen, there's one small signature going down and coming up, probably Ravage considering his size. It makes sense.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 21:26, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

::::::::::::Scalpel's about the size of a fish. I don't know for certain, but I'm pretty sure if the radar raised a contact alert every time a fish swam towards the sub, it'd be pretty useless. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:56, 3 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::::::Ravage is the size of a jaguar, which is what? the size of a shark? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:05, 3 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::::::Is he? I don't remember any shots in the movie where his size was even established, offhand. I thought he was pretty big though. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:18, 3 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::Hasbro [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm battle bios] say he is "4 ft." but I can't really tell if that means 4 feet tall or 4 feet long or what. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:25, 3 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::Starfield, if he was four feet long, he'd be pretty damn small, considering how long his tail is. We see him next to the alt modes of several transformers and we see him on Bee. He's at least as big as a tiger, probably bigger. [[User:Eire|Eire]]

Well sonuvabitch, you guys got me second guessing myself. Thanks. Now I gotta go watch the movie again.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 23:53, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

== Graham ==

Whatever happened to that Agent Graham guy. Was he even in it? He is still in the credits on the official ROTF website. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:21, 29 June 2009 (EDT)
:Wasn't he that one British guy with NEST? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 15:49, 29 June 2009 (EDT)
:Yes, he wore a brown beret. [[Special:Contributions/79.68.235.108|79.68.235.108]] 16:01, 29 June 2009 (EDT)
::He's the Tom Cruise lookalike with about three lines.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 03:25, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
:::And he wasn't an "agent", he was supposedly a member of the SASF, a fictionalized version of the Special Air Service. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:20, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
::::He is "SASF Agent Graham" on the [http://www.transformersmovie.com/ official movie website]. What's SASF stand for? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:54, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::Of [http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SASF the various potential meanings for the SASF acronym], the most sensible one for this situation appears to be "South African Special Forces".--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:46, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::I don't think "South African Special Forces" is at all sensible for a guy from the UK. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 16:17, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::Probably actually means "Special Air Service Forces" or somesuch fictional thing. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:02, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::"Synthetic Alien Strike Fighters" or, even better, "Secret Autobot Surveillance Force" (the government wouldn't really let giant robots run around without some spooks watching them, would they?) - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:18, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

== Frenzy's head ==
This error keeps on getting added/deleted endlessly, some official consensus would be good. His head didn't blow up, it was sliced it half, so it's not terribly unreasonable that the two pieces were glued or welded back together. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 22:06, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

== Images? ==

I happen to have a downloaded version of Revenge of The Fallen (I DID go to the movie, and I AM going to buy the dvd, so stop whining!), would you like me to make some screencaps and upload them?
(Particularly Reedman and Arcee miss clear images){{unsigned|ThiAthEhn|13:58, 1 July 2009}}
:The enthusiasm and offer of help are appreciated, but unfortunately screencaps from a pirated download would get us in deep doo-doo. Thanks for asking before uploading, though.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:04, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
::To elaborate, we have a policy against using images or information from unofficial, leaked or stolen sources, which obviously includes screencaps from a blurry camjob of Revenge of the Fallen. The DVD will be out in 3-4 months anyway. We can wait. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:18, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
:::We could use screens taken from the trailers and released clips and such though right? Or realsed screencaps? [[User:Eire|Eire]] 13.41 July 02 (UTC)
::::Absolutely. As long as it's a thing that was officially approved and released, go nuts. [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 08:48, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

== Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center location ==

Regarding the grafting of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_F._Udvar-Hazy_Center Steven_F._Udvar-Hazy_Center] to the Boneyard: it should be noted that the UHC is in ''Chantilly, VA'', rather outside of Washington, DC proper. There is actually more space next to the hangar, where Jetfire would have exited if they didn't have the compositing transition to the Boneyard. However, while the area's grassy and flat, it's surrounded by small chunks of forest (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dulles_Tower_360.JPG], it looks right out over the hangar entrance he would have exited from), and is further connected to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Dulles_International_Airport Dulles Airport] in the distance. :) I can only assume they went with the visual assumption that "hey, it's a museum, they'd have lots of mothballed planes around, and what's there right now is boring", but that's purely speculation on my part. Either way you slice it, it's still an "error"...

I just find this amusing, given that the UHC is one of the IMAX theaters where ROTF is being ''shown''... :) [[Special:Contributions/96.231.155.47|96.231.155.47]] 22:31, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
:And there's a HUGE IMAX logo ''in'' the movie...--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:41, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

I honestly wonder how many people had never really payed attention to the outside of the UHC, and tried to go around the side of the building after seeing it in IMAX. I'm from nearby the UHC, and I thought it was really funny to see a bunch of people in the theatres whisper to the person next to them, "hey, that's not outside the UHC." - Garebear22

==Caption theme==
Since the first film used a TF:TM theme, why not use the abandoned Star Wars theme here. [[User:Eire|Eire]] 13.41 July 02 (UTC)
:Specifically, ''Empire''. Kurtzman and Orci even said they were trying to match it in terms of upping the menace and having the Fallen be like the Emperor. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 09:01, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

== Suggestion - lock this article so only registered users can edit. ==

I am sure we are all sick and tired of anonymous people coming in and making stupid, incorrect, poorly spelled edits to our a article. Let's just lock this down so that we only need to watch out for newbie editors. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:09, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:Seconded. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 19:02, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:The motion's seconded. Aye. Does motion carry?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 20:37, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

== French title ==
Could you add back the fact that the French title has no ''2'' in it (at least, not in the Quebec version. You tell 'em, Detour), because some IP (80.236.81.91) undid my edit. Probably thought that because all other foreign titles had a 2, French was no different. Anyway I would do it myself if it wasn't for the semi-protection (which I am totally for). I know it's kind of silly to ask other people to do modifications for me, but please. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196|66.131.29.196]] 21:08, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:[http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_16816.html Êtes-vous certains?] -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:14, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
::We indeed do not have a 2 in our Transformers title in Quebec. Maybe it's just France? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:35, 2 July 2009 (EDT)`
::Non-teaser trailer supports this: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9uUVkYB6Aw&fmt=18] --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:39, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Les Français sont toujours causé des problèmes. Peut-être qu'ils pensent qu'il est numérotée en métrique? Si le film a utilisé un chiffre romain ils se seraient probablement merde leur pantalon et ensuite les manger. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:48, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Please stop butchering my language. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:50, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::Seconded. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 21:52, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::Ce n'est pas de ma faute! Il est le poisson vivant dans mon oreille! En tout cas, de véritables langues sont basés sur ECMAScript. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:01, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::"English, dude. English." --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:33, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::Thanks. Oh, and Derik, please stop. It kinda hurts me as a Frenchie-Canuck to see that. Plus, you're probably using internet translation, which as you can see is quite pitiful. Nice one LoneGamer, BTW. I couldn't have said it better. [[Special:Contributions/66.131.29.196|66.131.29.196]] 20:45, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

== Section ordering/technical details ==

Looking at the 2007 movie page... it's got a LOT of really boring-ass info on it. Formatting, foreign movie board ratings, etc, etc.... all that stuff should be waaaaaaay down near the bottom, if not on an entirely separate page, considering how long the 2007 movie page is.

And likewise for this one. Why is cast before the synopsis? Why do we need a list of foreign titles taking up the entire first screen of the page? Etc. etc.? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:37, 7 July 2009 (EDT)

== Appearance Order ==

Minor error, but still an error. Both Sam and Sideswipe are ordered as the ninth characters to appear in the film. Article locked, so I can't make the correction. --[[User:TheGoodman|TheGoodman]] 04:56, 11 July 2009 (EDT)

== Edit ==

Okay, I understand by the edit button's been switched to OFF but it there anyway to add to references? It came to me last night that the epic forest show down might be a reference to [[Code of Hero.]]
: That is a perfect example of why the edit button's been switched to off. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:31, 11 July 2009 (EDT)

== Main cast order of appearance numbers ==

Do we really need them? Our [[Transformers (2007)]] article doesn't have them. Some [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Revenge_of_the_Fallen_(film)&diff=322311&oldid=322298 anonymous idiot] took it upon himself to number the characters in a pretty horrible, incorrect fashion, and while people have since repositioned the names, the order of appearance is still wrong. And we're missing [[Graham|a character]] from the list. I would think people here who actually care about the accuracy of the wiki (ie, the staff and regular contributors) don't have the time and money to go see the movie again just to jot down when characters appear, so may I suggest we remove the numbering nonsense and restore this box to the way it was before whichever staff member opened up the anonymous floodgates? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:34, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
:We should probably add a flag to {{tl|featuredcharacters}} to suppress the "(Numbers indicate order of appearance.)" message where it wouldn't be logical. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:00, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
::I agree. If there wasn't a "(Numbers indicate order of appearance.)", people wouldn't try adding the numbers when we don't need the numbers. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:34, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

=== Pigs/Meat locker error ===
I don't get it, so if the owner is jewish that doesn't mean they can't supply pig meat to those who aren't jewish. Is this really considered an error? [[Special:Contributions/68.9.247.42|68.9.247.42]] 00:49, 19 July 2009 (EDT)

==Other goofs==
<s>You could fairly state that the Gulf of Aqaba does divide Egypt and Jordan, because those two countries could share a border if that body of water was not there.</s> Never mind this one, I misunderstood the nature of the error.

<s>One to be added is that the Predator drone is depicted two different ways. The Predator has a propellor, and you can see this when it takes off since it's footage of the actual vehicle. When the CGI model of the Predator approaches the battle, it has no propellor. I think the first film had the same goof. I'd add it myself, but due to semi-protection I can't do that yet.</s> Added. [[User:Hellbus|Hellbus]] 17:45, 26 July 2009 (EDT)

When Mikaela uses the tongs to grab Wheelie, a mirror mysteriously appears on the workshop floor and reflects a lot of sunlight into the camera. When the sunlight fades away Wheelie can finally be seen. I suppose it helps make the CGI look more seamless. -Anonymous, 24 July 2009

I have a theory about one of the scenes. When Sam got picked up from the party it was night, when they got to the scene in the graveyard it was daytime. What if the trip to the cemetary took all night so that the autobots could stay out of sight, and the conversation took place in the morning? just a thought. -Anonymous, 27 July 2009

==transforming pen/light==
:It just hit me that when i went to see the movie, that i got a promotional item on the night i saw the movie; a transforming pen/light with the movie's logo on it. Is it worth noting somewhere that such a thing exists?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 11:41, 2 August 2009 (EDT)

== The Serbian title (lol) ==

The alleged title "Transformersi: Najveće govno ikada" actually means "Transformers: The Biggest S**t Ever". :D It should be "Transformersi: Osveta Poraženog" {{unsigned|Prokletinick}}
:Some might say that was a more accurate title! Thanks, I've corrected it. Any idea if there's a "2" in the official Serbian title? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:10, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

:Well, I've looked it up, and no, there isn't. --[[User:Prokletinick|Prokletinick]] 11:17, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

== Anti-Arab subtext ==

...How is destroying and damaging various Middle Eastern landmarks anti-Arab? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:57, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
:As someone who is dating an Arab, has met a LOT of Arabs, is comparatively familiar with Arab culture, and has become pretty sensitive to such things over the years... I have ''no. freaking. clue.'' I added it primarily 'cause I think the notion is ''hilarious''. Of all the things in the movie to fixate on... -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 16:08, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
::Alice tearing up Princeton is an obvious sign of anti-intellectualism. And Blackout's attack on the military base in the first film demonstrate a clear anti-military slant. And lot's not forget Bay's previous film, Armageddon, and its obvious anti-Earth agenda. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 16:12, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
When large amounts of a movie take place in Arab countries but the only Arab characters we see either exist to be laughed at (the border guard) or as cannon fodder (the Jordanian helicopters), people seeing an anti-Arab subtext strikes me as perfectly reasonable. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:31, 15 August 2009 (EDT)

== Jewish deli? ==

Are we sure the Simmons family is Jewish? Seymour was wearing a friggin' cross around his neck in the first film.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 08:23, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
: The novelization says he's Jewish, but that's just the novelization. (More specifically, at the road check somewhere Egypt, Simmons calls these folks "his people," to which Sam is surprised, since he thought Simmons was Jewish. Simmons responds: "I'm one thirty-sixth Arab. Hey, Kosher, halal - it's the same thing.") --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:03, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
:: Well, as it stands, there are no Jews in the movies. Israel doesn't even exist.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 11:47, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
:::His mother's name is Tova, which might as well be Jewette. Of course, that's no guarantee they'd run a kosher business. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 12:03, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
::::So why was he wearing a cross in the first movie, then? Also, is her name confirmed for the movie?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:20, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::Obviously he was a wearing a cross in the first movie because they didn't decide to make him Jewish until the second. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:32, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
::::::But is he definitely a Jew in the movie? Or is that only in the novelization? Maybe Alan Dean Foster's Seymour Simmons is a Jew, but Orci/Kurtzman's Simmons is Catholic? Can we tell for sure?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:46, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
::::::[http://www.jews-for-jesus.org/ Jews for Jesus]? *is half-kidding* --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:54, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
::::: He converted. Broke his poor mother's heart, he did. Seymour, why didn't you become a doctor like your cousin Morty? A government agent? You'll never get a nice wife that way! [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 14:09, 15 August 2009 (EDT)

== Name ==

The name for Brazil is "A Vingança dos Derrotados"

Optimus Prime (G1)

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:''Optimus Prime is the leader of the [[Autobot]]s from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Optimusg1.jpg|right|350px|thumb|I'm that guy everyone remembers. No, not the [[Soundwave (G1)|tape guy]], the other guy.]]
'''Optimus Prime''' is the awe-inspiring [[Prime (rank)|leader]] of the [[Autobot]] forces. Originally a mere civilian, he was chosen by the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] to command, the first in a number of heavy burdens he has been forced to bear. Another is his bringing of the Transformers' conflict to Earth. The complete opposite of his mortal enemy [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], every casualty, [[human]] or [[Transformer|Cybertronian]], weighs heavily on his [[spark]]. He does not show this side to his soldiers, and he never succumbs to despair. The Autobots need a decisive, charismatic leader, and that is what he gives them. It was that leadership which turned the tide of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]].

On the battlefield, there are few who rival Optimus Prime's prowess. He is easily the strongest of any Autobot his [[Scale|size]], and his [[ion blaster]] and his [[energon-axe]] are deadly weapons. He would sacrifice his life to protect his fellow Autobots or those under their care, and [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|does so on a regular basis]]. His compassion for other sentient beings is his only real weakness, and one the Decepticons have taken advantage of time and again... though it's also the source of his strength!

Prime carries within him the [[Matrix of Leadership]].

Before being rebuilt into a [[Powermaster]] his robot mode split into three components:

*A sentient robot module, the [[Brain Center]].
*A wheeled drone module known as [[Roller]].
*A [[Combat Deck]].

Although Optimus Prime can function as three independent modules, injury to any one module is felt by the other two.

{{bigquote|Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.|Optimus Prime's most common [[bio]] quote}}

:''Japanese name:'' '''Convoy'''
:''Japanese name (Laser Rod):'' '''Battle Convoy'''
:''French-Canadian & Chzech name:'' '''Optimus Primus'''
:''Hungarian name (The Movie):'' '''Optimusz Fővezér''' / '''Optimusz Prájm''' ("Optimus Chief")
:''Italian name:'' '''Commander'''
:''Portuguese name (Portugal comics):'' '''Optimus Supremo''' ("Optimus Supreme")
:''Portuguese name (Brazil cartoon):'' '''Líder Optimus''' ("Leader Optimus"), sometimes
Optimus Prime
:''Portuguese name (Brazil comics):'' '''Supremus Absolutus'''
:''Taiwanese name:'' '''Tīh-ghŭ''' (鐵牛, literally "Iron Ox" or "Iron Bull", a kind of vehicle in early days and rural area)
:''Chinese name (Taiwan):'' '''Jr-tsūn''' (至尊, "Prime")
:''Cantonese name:'' '''O Baak Man''' (柯柏文)
:''Chinese name (China):'' '''Qing Tian Zhu''' (擎天柱, "Pillar that Supports the Sky")

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
{{main|Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity}}
[[Image:CommandPerformances-Autobotsattack.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Don't worry, the multiple crises of conscience come soon enough.]]

Optimus Prime was a gladiator champion for [[Iacon]] before quickly working his way up the Autobot ranks once [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] started the war. Four million years ago, when Decepticons attacked the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], he personally chose to crash it onto [[Earth]], a decision that caused him much remorse when the war restarted on Earth in the modern day.

Though Optimus allowed himself to be destroyed when he betrayed his own moral code while playing a video game, a copy of his mind survived on a [[floppy disk]]. Years later, he was restored as a [[Powermaster]], binary bonded to the [[Nebulan]], [[Hi-Q]]. Optimus Prime slowly earned the respect of Decepticon leader [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], mourned the loss of his friend [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], and ultimately sacrificed everything to defeat [[Unicron]]. Though Optimus died again, his mind persisted in Hi-Q, and the [[Last Autobot]] was able to restore him as an [[Action Master]] in time to bring a temporary end to the war.

In [[Generation 2|one universe]], Optimus Prime went on to battle [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]], his [[Cybertronian Empire]], and the [[Swarm]]. In [[Classics (2006)|another]], fifteen years of peace passed before Megatron rose again.

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===S.T.A.R.S. pack-in flyers===
The Autobots were outnumbered and outgunned on Earth from the start, though Optimus was confident (and correct) that reinforcements from Cybertron would arrive. {{storylink|Reinforcements from Cybertron!}}

However, the situation was still so desperate that Optimus not only decided to recruit human allies {{storylink|The battle is far from over!}}, but aggressively tried to recruit and ''deputise'' human children, including giving them the power to co-ordinate Autobot teams in battles. He wouldn't even make a final move on the Decepticons until he had enough child soldiers on his side. {{storylink|Earthlings: THE S.T.A.R.S. need your help now!}} {{storylink|Have the Decepticons defeated us once and for all?}} In at least one case, this likely led to the ''death'' of a small boy at Decepticon hands. {{storylink|Can one boy, alone, hold back the evil Decepticons?}}

Optimus later led a convoy in search for a building site for [[Autobot City]], which ran into a Decepticon ambush. {{storylink|Rodimus Prime remembers the Transformers greatest battle on Earth.}} He sent off several Autobots to get help, knowing this was the only chance of victory. {{storylink|Transformers Combat Data}} Those several Autobots were seen again, but Prime... wasn't.

===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
{{main|Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity}}

[[Image:Mtmte2_shermandam.jpg|left|250px|thumb|He had this ax once. It was very memorable.]]

Before the war, Optimus Prime was originally '''Orion Pax''', a young dock worker with a girlfriend named [[Elita One|Ariel]]. But as the war began, Megatron destroyed them both, and [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] rebuilt them into more powerful warriors.

Four million years ago, Optimus Prime ended a Decepticon attack on the Ark by directing it towards prehistoric Earth. When both factions reawakened in 1984, Optimus Prime and the Autobots fought the Decepticons on numerous occasions until 2005. During an attack on [[Autobot City]] on Earth, Prime fell in battle against Megatron and passed the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]].

Optimus Prime eventually returned, once as a [[zombie]], and again when he was rebuilt by the [[Quintesson]]s to stop the spread of the [[Hate Plague]].

The details between these events differ between universes. Sometimes Optimus Prime merged with [[Vector Sigma]] soon after defeating the Hate Plague, and returned much, much later as Star Convoy. Sometimes Optimus Prime partnered up with [[Marissa Faireborn]] to receive upgrades through mutual [[kiss]]ing. Sometimes... look, he did a lot of weird stuff, okay?

===Kid Stuff Talking Story Books===
:''Voice actor:'' Unknown

Optimus Prime is a "metallic nemesis". Megatron said so.

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===Big Looker Story Books===
[[Image:KidsPrime1.jpg|right|150px|thumb|And the fluffy kitten played with that yarn all gosh-darn night.]]

When a 2-part race was being held with a massive supply of oil and gasoline as the prize, both the Decepticons and the Autobots badly wanted to win it. Megatron entered the race by hiding himself inside a hollowed-out car and harassed [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] all throughout the contest. When Prime discovered the car was being driven by his arch foe, he swiftly pulled a telephone pole out from the ground and used it to bash the mortal hell out of the cheating Decepticon. Thanks to Prime's violent intervention, Cliffjumper was able to win the race. Afterward, Optimus Prime celebrated the Minibot's victory with a gargantuan smile as all the Decepticons starved to death. {{storylink|The Great Car Rally}}

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===Ladybird Books continuity===
{{storylink|Autobots' Lightning Strike}} {{storylink|Megatron's Fight for Power}} {{storylink|Autobots Fight Back}} {{storylink|Laserbeak's Fury}} {{storylink|Autobot Hostage}} {{storylink|Decepticons Underground}}
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===''Transformer PD Type'' comic===

[[Image:PDtype-Matrixattack.jpg|left|thumb|250px|This is the highlight of this entire page.]]

When a horde of time-displaced Decepticons joined forces to hunt down the five [[Blackball]]s, a super energy source, Optimus Prime gathered a team of time-displaced Autobots to help stop them.

In one encounter with his arch-foe [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], they reenacted their epic struggle from the [[Battle of Autobot City]]. However, this time around, Prime avoided dying by launching his "Matrix Attack"...''literally'' launching the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] from his chest, bonking Megatron on the head. {{storylink|Transformer PD Type|You're Great! Optimus Prime!}}

Later, Optimus Prime and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] concocted a cunning strategy. They disguised a round, black cartoon explosive as a Blackball and gave it to [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. Starscream promptly brought it to Megatron, where it blew both of them up. Optimus and Magnus were astounded their plan actually worked. {{storylink|Transformer PD Type|Don't Cry! Megatron!!}}

In one of his less impressive moments, after running out of ammo during a battle with [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]], Optimus Prime ordered his fellow Autobots to improvise and hurl everything that wasn't nailed down at their enemy. This included the Blackball, unfortunately. Catching it, Deathsaurus began to fantasize about his inevitable galactic conquest, all the while being pelted with rocks and litter. Frustrated, Deathsaurus accidentilly hurled the Blackball back to the Autobots in a fit of rage. {{storylink|Transformer PD Type|Good Job! Deathsaurus!!}}
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===''Comic Bom Bom G-2'' comic===
[[Image:G2Hero.jpg|right|200px|thumb|GAH, HE'S LOOKING AT ME!]]
In the year 199X, the Decepticons had learned of a powerful new energy source known as [[forestonite]] which just happened to be located (surprise surprise) on [[Earth]]. Megatron sent his trio of [[Cyberjet]]s to Earth first to draw out the enemy Autobots. The Cyberjets made quick work of [[Electro]] but were soon halted by the appearance of Optimus Prime.

Megatron then entered the fray and fired his Black Hole Burn attack from his fusion cannon, narrowly missing Optimus Prime but vaporizing [[Hooligan (G2)|Hooligan]] in the process. Prime fought fiercely but Megatron began to take the upper-hand in battle.

However, Prime was encouraged to keep fighting by the cheers of a human boy named [[Junpei]]. Megatron, surprised at Prime's resilience, attempted to finish his foe off with his Tornado Axe attack. Prime countered with his Double Wheel-Torque Mega-Ton, which trumped Megatron's attack and injured the Decepticon badly. Megatron teleported back to his ship and left Earth's atmosphere, vowing to return.

Optimus Prime addressed Junpei, asking if the boy was injured. Junpei revealed he was alright but presented concern about the Decepticons returning to Earth. Optimus Prime swore that the Autobots would remain on Earth until the threat of the Decepticons was finished and asked for Junpei's help in making that future a reality. {{storylink|The New Battle!!}}

===''Beast Wars'' cartoon continuity===
====''Beast Wars'' cartoon====
[[Image:G1Prime BWMegs.jpg|left|180px|thumb|You have to get up preeeeetty early in the timestream to beat Optimus Prime!]]

The [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]] raged on prehistoric Earth, eventually leading to the discovery of the buried Ark sometime after its crash on prehistoric Earth. [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], following [[Megatron (G1)|his namesake's]] instructions in a desperate gambit, decided to attempt to change history by killing Prime, who was still lying in the Ark in [[stasis lock]]. Megatron hoped that this would result in the Decepticons winning the Great War and eventually [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] control of Cybertron. Megatron unleashed a full-power weapon blast at Optimus Prime's face, near-fatally injuring him. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part III)}} However, [[Optimus Primal]] proceeded to take Prime's spark into his body to protect it from surgical trauma while his injuries were repaired. The subsequent power increase caused by Prime's spark's connection to the Matrix mutated Primal into a large, [[Transmetal]] "Optimal Optimus" form. Then, with the repairs complete, Prime's spark was restored, and he briefly activated before sinking back into normal stasis. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}}

Sometime after the Autobots and Decepticons awoke in the 1980s, the original Megatron gained access to one of Earth's ''Voyager'' spacecraft and inscribed a message on the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|disk]] on board. In the event that he lost the War, Megatron left instructions for the descendants of the Decepticons to use [[transwarp]] technology to travel to Prehistoric Earth, locate the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], and change history by killing Optimus Prime. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 2)}}

====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====
[[Image:Sparkwar2_Optimus_hologram_primal.jpg|right|200px|thumb|]]
:''Voice actor'': [[Garry Chalk]] (English), [[Tilo Schmitz]] (German)

An enormous statue of Optimus Prime, bearing two [[Golden Disk (disambiguation)|Golden Disks]], could be seen on Cybertron in front of the Hall of Archives. The statue was subsequently blown to pieces by the [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon forces]]. {{storylink|Fires of the Past}} Later, Megatron beamed a hologram of Optimus Prime down to the ruins of [[Iacon]] to confront [[Optimus Primal]]. Primal mistook the hologram for the real thing and shared with it the code for the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]]. Megatron quickly revealed his ruse. Primal explained to his Maximals that he knew the image was fake, but he needed the location of the missing [[spark]]s from Megatron's mind. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. II: The Search}}

{{note|Writer [[Bob Skir]] claims that neither the statue nor the golden disks in its hands were mentioned in the script. However, he suggested that they were either the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|disks]] from the Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 probes, or that Optimus won them in the 2,395,989th Annual Cybertronian spelling bee.<ref>[http://bigbot.com/beast-machines-transformers-bob-skir/Beast-Machines-FAQ/Tue_12_Oct_1999.html Q&A from Bigbot's "bobskir.com"]</ref> We're betting on the latter.}}

====''Universe: Primeval Dawn''====
[[Image:Sparkholderprimevaldawn.jpg|left|190px|thumb|"Oh, I also have this in me now, too."]]
The Vok took the Matrix of Leadership from an unconscious Optimus Prime, used it to create [[Primal Prime]], then gave the Matrix to their new creation. {{storylink|Primeval Dawn Part 1}}

{{note|In the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon, Prime's spark was shown to be contained in a Matrix-like vessel. In [[Universe (2003 comic)|Primeval Dawn]], that vessel was shown to be merely a container for his spark, and the actual Matrix was hidden underneath.}}
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===''Beast Wars Metals'' comic===
[[Image:CheetasManga1.jpg|right|100px|thumb|Cheetor, that's Prime's Spark, not a toy.]]
Optimus Prime was blasted into pieces by Dragon Megatron. Fortunately, his spark remained perfectly intact—in the remains of his [[Optimal Situation|Matrix-shaped spark chamber]]. Megatron was going to destroy Prime's spark, but [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] (now in his Transmetal body) saved it. Prime's spark was eventually swallowed by Optimus Primal, who was upgraded into Optimal Optimus by doing so.

After Megatron was killed by Optimal Optimus, Primal and his crew said it would be troublesome to fix Optimus Prime's body.
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===Dreamwave comics continuity===
{{cleanup|April 2009|Needs general expansion and STORYLINKS TO INDIVIDUAL ISSUES. Links to the series are not acceptable.}}

[[Image:Optronix optimus.jpg|left|180px|thumb|What? OPTRONIX is evolving!]]
Optimus Prime started life as '''Optronix''' (Orion to his friends<ref>The [[Keepers Trilogy]] novels set in Dreamwave continuity</ref>), a data archivist. After taking note of a battle in which the Autobot leader [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]] had been defeated by Megatron, he was summoned to the council of elders and informed that the Matrix had chosen him to be the next leader of the Autobots. He received the Matrix of Leadership shortly thereafter, gaining a powerful new body in the process, and almost arranged for the Autobot evacuation of Cybertron, intending to leave the Decepticons to their own devices, until a battle with Megatron beneath the planet's surface, accompanied by visions from the Matrix, stirred him on to fight for the safety of his homeworld. Some time into his role as leader, Prime disappeared in a [[space bridge]] explosion along with Megatron, but returned some time later, having spent a period of time on [[Quintessa]]. {{storylink|The War Within}}

Following the awakening of the Transformers on Earth, the Autobots protected the planet from the Decepticons. Over the next fifteen years, the Autobots befriended the humans, particularly the [[Witwicky|Witwicky family]]. The Autobots finally allied with humankind and eventually defeated the Decepticons at the turn of the century. They planned to return to Cybertron aboard the newly constructed ''[[Ark II]]'', along with seven humans, including Witwicky patriarch [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]]. Before the ship departed, Prime gave a piece of the Matrix to [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]], Sparkplug's son and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]'s closest human friend. But the ship was destroyed as part of a military conspiracy to take control of the Transformers. However, a terrorist organization run by the enigmatic [[Lazarus]] was able to seize control of several of the Transformers that fell back to Earth, while the U.S. military located Prime's body. Spike was forced by the product chief, General [[Robert Hallo]], to use the piece of the Matrix to reactivate Prime. Functional again, Prime used the Matrix to reactivate more of his fallen comrades, and then faced off against Megatron in [[San Francisco]]. {{storylink|Prime Directive}}

Following this, Prime began to experience subconscious urgings, leading both the Autobots and the Decepticons to the Arctic Circle, where Shockwave arrived to greet them—and arrest them as war criminals. Shockwave had succeeded in ending the war on Cybertron, but Prime soon fell in with a rebel Autobot group that had discovered Shockwave had a greater agenda. Rallying Autobots across Cybertron to the cause, Prime faced Shockwave in battle but was defeated and had the Matrix ripped from him and used to activate Vector Sigma. Before Shockwave could make full use of the mega-computer's data, however, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] arrived and bested him. The injuries Prime took in this conflict necessitated a prolonged restoration period in stasis. {{storylink|War and Peace}}

{{note|...which turned out to be the remainder of Dreamwave's existence. Bummer.}}

===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===
[[Image:GIJoevsTFcobraprime.jpg|right|275px|thumb|G.1. Joe-the real universal hero!]]

Several Autobots and Decepticons, including Optimus Prime, were reformatted into will-less war machines under the control of [[Cobra]]. During an initial attack on a human peace conference, Cobra's remote control of Optimus mysteriously failed. Later at Cobra's island headquarters in the Caribbean, Cobra scientists pulled Optimus apart to find out what was impeding their commands. As this analysis took place, Optimus reverse hacked into Cobra computers until they shut him down in a panic. Despite this, Prime sent a viral message out to hundreds of email addresses that included the coordinates of Cobra's base. The message was intercepted by [[G.I. Joe]] who teamed up with Wheeljack and Bumblebee. After Wheeljack broke the remote control over the Transformers, Prime went after [[Cobra Commander]]. More than a bit frightened of a giant robot gunning for him, the human released Megatron, who was trapped in gun model. Megatron transformed and fought Prime to a standstill until other Autobots came to back him up.

Although he was weak and low on [[Energon (fuel)|energon]], Prime made a last-ditch effort to save the day when he rammed through the wall of Megatron's energon-producing lab. After a quick recharge, Optimus single-handedly smashed the Decepticons, pounded Megatron to the ground, and ripped his [[fusion cannon]] off his arm. Prime then teamed up with the Joes and used Megatron's cannon to shoot down the [[SPS satellite]] that had gone rogue and was destroying the island.

With the battle over, Prime and the Autobots boarded a new ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'' ship built by G.I. Joe and returned to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers}}

[[Image:GIJoevstfIIprime1930s.jpg|left|275px|thumb|War Convoy: TRANSFORM!!!]]
On a Cybertron dominated by [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and the Decepticons, Optimus Prime and the Autobots took on the roles of resistance fighters. Cobra experimentation transported a contingent of Cobras and G.I. Joes to Cybertron and destabilized [[Teletran 3]]. The computer then sent several Transformers to [[Earth]] across different time periods. A team made up of Joes and Cobra agents were sent back and found Optimus Prime and the [[Stunticon]]s in 1930s-era Chicago, disguised as period cars and trucks. The Stunticons chased Prime and the Joes around the city until everything was wrapped up with bullets, a collapsed bridge and some dynamite.

After the Transformers and humans were returned to present-day Cybertron and the Decepticons were vanquished by the recently-arrived [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], Prime made an agreement with the Joes to destroy the technology that started the whole mess in order to protect Earth. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II}}

On Cybertron, Optimus Prime kicked back to do a little bit of paperwork and reminisce. With Shockwave defeated, Cybertron was enjoying a new era of peace. He was interrupted by Hot Rod, who reported that a group of "pesky humans with their peashooters" were giving an Autobot team on Earth a hard time. Prime suspected Cobra's involvement and counseled Hot Rod not to be so dismissive of the humans.

Later, at a peace celebration, Prime was watching a procession of Autobots when Decepticons attacked. Optimus ordered Omega Supreme into action but the huge Autobot was quickly overcome by Menasor, Piranacon and Predaking. Prime hopped into the fray, saved a female Autobot from getting smushed by the falling Omega, rode a flying Decepticon into Piranacon's face, smashed another Decepticon into the ground, and carried a wounded Autobot out of danger.

[[Image:Primevsserpentor.jpg|right|175px|thumb|Serpent O.R. soon realized that "This I command!" doesn't work on Optimus Prime.]]
Menasor cut off Prime's escape and confronted him with a hologram of [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]] The new Decepticon leader carried Megatron's memories and information downloaded from Soundwave, from which he learned of the Matrix of Leadership. Serpent O.R. offered Optimus a trade: hostages and peace if he handed over the Matrix. Optimus agreed.

In his stronghold, Serpent O.R. questioned Prime about his own worthiness to carry the Matrix, but Optimus broke free of his chains and aggressively ordered him to surrender. A group of Decepticons broke in and nearly took Prime apart, but not before Serpent O.R. took the Matrix for himself and changed into the massive Serpentor Prime. The Matrix showed Serpentor Prime the error of his ways but as he was about to commit suicide Cobra Commander tripped a device and took over Serpentor Prime's body. Moments before he crushed Arcee, a severely damaged Optimus Prime threw Hawk toward the Matrix but warned the human not to touch the artifact. Hawk did so anyway and through a quasi-mystical transfer of power Serpentor Prime was vanquished.

Later repaired by a female nursebot, Optimus went back to finishing his paperwork. A leader's job is never done. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers: The Art of War}}

Sensing a new, yet old, danger to planet Earth, Prime elected to send himself to earth on an investigation, and gave Hot Rod a glare when the young Autobot accused his leader of taking an unnecessary risk to atone for the death of a close friend.

Optimus Prime landed in the Himalayan Mountains with G.I. Joes [[Flint (G.I. Joe)|Flint]] and [[Hawk (G.I. Joe)|Hawk]]. As they searched the area, the trio was attacked by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] in his [[Pretender]] shell. Prime whacked him with his [[energon-axe]] and in return Bludgeon bearhugged him and coated him in metal-eating slime. Hawk, still carrying power from the Matrix, helped Prime break free. Optimus then shot his way into the hidden kingdom of [[Cobra-La]].

While they wandered through the tunnels, the Joes and Prime found cave paintings that described the last visit to Earth by the planet-eating god [[Unicron]]. They were attacked again by Bludgeon and Cobra-La minions, but were led away by a ragged [[Joe Colton]], prisoner of Cobra-La for the last 25 years. Bludgeon managed to find them again and during a second battle Prime tore open the Pretender's shell, revealing Bludgeon's robot form inside. Bludgeon tripped and dangled dangerously over a chasm, but rather than let Optimus Prime save him, Bludgeon forced Prime to drop him to his death laughing all the way down.

The Joes discovered a cavern where the people of Cobra-La were growing metal-eating spores as a last defense against Unicron. Flint and [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] took a load of the spores into space just as Unicron appeared in Earth orbit. Prime, Hawk and Colton headed deeper into Cobra-La to rescue [[Firewall]] and kick butt. Prime was tackled and pinned by a giant bug creature, but made a dramatic recovery and tossed the bug aside. He then took the machine-hating Cobra-La leader [[Golobulus]] to task with a single punch. Flint and Cosmos released the spores, which devoured Unicron from the inside and defeated the giant Transformer before he could harm [[Earth]].

With the threat of Unicron gone, Prime relaxed with [[Eject]] and Firewall by watching some reality TV, and sighed at the banality. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers: Black Horizon}}

===''Transformers/G.I. Joe''===
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=== IDW comics continuity ===
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{{note|''[[Megatron Origin]]'' depicted that before the war, a robot that's a hybrid of the "Orion Pax" and "Optronix" designs appears listening to [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]'s speech at the funeral of [[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]] and [[Fastback]]. He is standing with [[Elita One]], [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]], and a white version of himself (presumably [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], possibly even [[Dion]]). Whether this is truly the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]]'s version of pre-Prime Optimus or not remains unrevealed.}}

[[Image:SpotlightBlurr-Optimus.jpg|left|thumb|200px|There's something missing...]]

Galvanized by the death of Sentinel Prime, Optimus joined the Autobot forces under Sentinel's successor, [[Zeta Prime]], and was assigned to a unit commanded by the veteran [[Kup (G1)|Kup]]. During his tour of duty, his unit intercepted a message reporting of a planned attempt on the Prime's life. He approached former racer [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] as a reliable means of getting the news to Zeta Prime in a hurry. The former celebrity balked, but ultimately the young soldier helped Blurr find what really drove him to race, and thus recruited him to the Autobot cause. {{storylink|Spotlight: Blurr}}

An undisclosed amount of time later, Optimus became Optimus Prime. While reviewing his new troops, he came upon a defiant old veteran called Ironhide, who thought of Prime as a wet-behind-the-audio-receptors upstart. Optimus was intrigued by this old coot and asked Ironhide to teach him about the ways of war-and Ironhide did just that. Everything he threw at Optimus, Optimus took and learnt. All his hard comments were taken in. But one day, Optimus, having gained much wisdom since meeting Ironhide, decided to go against Ironhide's counsel, heading east instead of west. This turned out to be a good idea, as [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] had been waiting in the west to ambush the Autobot forces. Later still, Ironhide and Optimus got a bit unlucky and ended up dangling off a cliff with Ironhide missing a leg. They were eventually rescued. After this, Ironhide developed a respect and awe for his protege. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 13}}

{{note| This story conflicts with previous fiction featuring Optimus and Irohide: In ''Spotlight: Blurr'', pre-Prime Optimus and Ironhide are in the same unit, which contradicts neither of them recognizing the other when Optimus '''Prime''' reviews his troops.}}

[[Image:IDWOptimus.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Freedom is the right of all sentient and heavily-armed beings.]]

A further undisclosed amount of time later, Optimus Prime commanded the Autobot armed forces spread across the galaxy from the [[Autobot Orbital Command Hub]]. He was directly involved in the cataclysm ([[IDW timeline|just under 450 years ago]]) that reduced [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to a dead husk, fighting alongside [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] in an attempt to stop [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]]'s rampage. Their efforts were futile, and they only survived due to Cybertron itself swallowing Thunderwing at [[Thunderhead Pass]]. Megatron was unconvinced that Thunderwing was dead, and he advocated that Cybertron be destroyed to better insure that the mad Decepticon was forever destroyed. Optimus Prime refused and threatened to stop any effort that Megatron attempted. Megatron agreed to spare the planet, but warned Prime that anything which happened afterward was on his head.

In the present, Prime received a pulsewave from [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]], who was stationed under [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s team on Earth, saying that the Decepticon infiltration cell under [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] had broken their infiltration methods and enacted [[Infiltration protocol|siege mode]] prematurely. Soon afterward, the Autobot science vessel ''[[Calabi-Yau]]'' sent a distress signal from above Thunderhead Pass, and he ordered the [[Wrecker]]s to withdraw from [[Varas Centralus]] and meet him on Cybertron. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 2|Stormbringer #2}} Thunderwing had been restored by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] and his followers, and though the Wreckers made short work of them, the real fight would be met with Thunderwing. After the Wreckers, [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] and [[Centurion droid]]s were unable to destroy the monster, Prime took to the field, firing massive amounts of energy at Thunderwing, forcing it to exhaust its last reserves of [[Ultra-Energon]] and, ultimately, its life. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 4|Stormbringer #4}}

[[Image:IDWPrime Earth.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Don't crush the cameraman!]]
[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] discovered information in Bludgeon's files about the mysterious new form of Energon found on [[Earth]]. Linking it to the pulsewave transmission from Ironhide, Prime diverted his spacecraft to Earth and called [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] in to assist him. {{storylink|Spotlight: Nightbeat}}. Shortly after arrival, and having undergone alteration so that he could disguise himself as an Earth truck, he slowly began to realize how unusual the situation Prowl's unit had found itself in was. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 6|Infiltration #6}} Not only had the Decepticons broken their own infiltration protocols over what Starscream had dubbed [[Ultra-Energon|Ore-13]], but after attempting to recover what appeared to be [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]'s remains, it was also evident that some of the planet's native sentient lifeforms—[[human]]s—posed a threat possibly equal to that of their old enemies. {{storylink|Escalation issue 2|Escalation #2}}

Optimus Prime, now fully filled-in on Earth's happenings, decided that they needed reinforcements. He called Nightbeat, [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], and [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] to come when they could. When Prowl pointed out that Megatron, in his new gun-based Earth mode, was in the breakaway Soviet state of [[Brasnya]] stirring up trouble, Prime ordered them into action.

[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] almost got the drop on Prime, but [[Roller]] was right behind him and took out Blitzwing with a single shot. Megatron returned to his full-size robot mode and disagreed with the quality of Prime's tea and crumpets. At last, the two rivals were going to go at it.

[[Image:Escalation5 Primedies enlightning.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Rule of thumb, Megs—if he don't turn gray, he's A-OK.]]
The fight went well at first, with Prime blowing Megatron's [[fusion cannon]] clean off. Megatron, however, tireless thanks to Ore-13, prevailed, almost beating Prime into [[stasis lock]]. {{storylink|Escalation issue 5|Escalation #5}}

However, Prime transferred his consciousness into his trailer, leading Megatron to believe him dead. Realizing that Ore-13 was the same as Ultra-Energon, Prime returned to his body in time to save his forces from the relentless Megatron, blasting him point blank in the face and dealing enough damage to the Decepticon leader to drain his power reserves, just as he did against Thunderwing. The victory was narrow, however, leaving Optimus with the daunting task of fending off an increasing enemy force without his last ace in the hole. {{storylink|Escalation issue 6|Escalation #6}}

This near-death experience had left Prime somewhat unsettled. While his consciousness was in [[infraspace]] downloading to his trailer, he sensed a presence of dread—the visage of his long-missing predecessor, [[Nova Prime]]. Looking for answers, Optimus Prime left Earth temporarily to seek an audience with [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] for answers. Once there, he found out about Nova's beliefs of how Transformers were a superior race and should remake the universe in their image, and he faced down the rampaging [[Monstructor]], a legacy of Nova's tenure locked away by Omega Supreme. Then he gave his "you shouldn't have done that" speech to Omega, handed Monstructor's limbs over to Jetfire's team, and went on to have angst-ridden introspection about himself and the tarnished legacy of the [[Prime (rank)|Prime lineage]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Optimus Prime}}

After returning to Earth, Nightbeat discovered that a human group was aware of the base's location and recommended to Prime that they move the ''[[Ark-19]]''. As preparations were underway, Prime received a message from [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] saying that Thunderwing had been stolen. [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], eager to search for Sunstreaker, suggested that they be reassigned to Earth, and Prime agreed. However, the thrashing that Prime gave Megatron had so embarrassed the Decepticon leader that he ordered in the Decepticons' living weapon, [[Sixshot]]. While moving the ''Ark-19'', Prime and the others came under fire by Sixshot, who severely damaged their ship. {{storylink|Devastation issue 1|Devastation #1}}

[[Image:Devastation4 PrimeSixshot hyperbole.jpg|left|180px|thumb|"And THAT'S for killing my brother in another timeline!"]]
Ordering [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] to get [[Jimmy Pink]] and [[Verity Carlo]] to safety, Optimus then instructed Nightbeat to upload all of ''Ark-19''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s data to ''[[Ark-32]]'' and for Prowl to activate the self-destruct sequence. {{storylink|Devastation issue 2|Devastation #2}} When ''Ark-19'' exploded, it was assumed that Optimus was on board, but all was good at the end when he appeared with [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and the others, ready to take on Sixshot. {{storylink|Devastation issue 3|Devastation #3}} Optimus and the Autobots held Sixshot at bay, but the U.S. military ordered an air strike to destroy the alien robots. The battle was a stalemate, as Sixshot had to return to the Decepticons while the Autobots [[orbital jump]]ed just in time to avoid destruction. {{storylink|Devastation issue 4|Devastation #4}} On ''Ark-32'', after a conversation with Jetfire, Prime informed Prowl that they needed to retrieve [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], Hot Rod and Ironhide, and leave Earth to see to another crisis. The secure facility on [[Garrus-9]] had been breached, and Prime and company needed to make sure that some of the "recent inmates" there didn't end up "in enemy hands". {{storylink|Devastation issue 5|Devastation #5}} Before leaving Earth, Optimus Prime redirected Hound's unit to rendezvous with ''Ark-32'' at Garrus-9, and he told Hound to impress upon Sideswipe the importance of their mission and how he didn't leave Earth or Sunstreaker behind lightly. {{storylink|Devastation issue 6|Devastation #6}}

[[Image:DarknessPrimes.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Think he can go one series without having a near-death experience?]]
Optimus Prime and Prowl met with [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] and Jetfire on Garrus-9 and discussed the prisoners' breakout and how a surviving Decepticon had been tortured. Maximus and Jetfire gave each other a guilty glance. Prime left Maximus in charge and returned with Prowl to the ''Ark-32''. Meanwhile, [[Dead Universe]] resident [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] attacked Hound's crew, but they received help from Ultra Magnus and drove Cyclonus to escape to [[Corata-Vaz]]. There, he activated the [[Nega-Core]] and fought with Magnus and Hound's crew, who had followed him. In desperation, Cyclonus activated the Nega-Core's guardian—Thunderwing. Using the distraction, Cyclonus escaped, but Magnus sent another tracker after him. All this was reported to Optimus Prime on the ''Ark-32'', who recognized that this had something to do with his infraspace encounter in Brasnya. Prime ordered Jetfire to summon the Wreckers to find out what Thunderwing was guarding. {{storylink|Spotlight: Cyclonus}}

The prison soon came under attack from Nova Prime. Rather then watch his soldiers be slaughtered by the undead monster, Optimus Prime ordered a retreat and faced Nova alone. Announcing his new title of Nemesis Prime, Optimus's predecessor explained the nature of the [[Darkness (G1)|Darkness]] before unleashing a portion on the Autobot leader. Shattered, Prime collapsed onto his hands and knees as Nemesis loomed. {{storylink|Spotlight: Doubledealer}}

[[Image:OptimusdeadNemesis.jpg|left|200px|thumb|"Optimus! I've come to help y—oh. Sorted, then?"]]

Unexpectedly for Nemesis Prime, the Darkness seemed to be more interested in the younger Prime and sought to be passed onto Optimus. Nemesis wasn't about to let go of the power he commanded, and he savagely attacked Optimus Prime, whose attempts at reason fell on deaf ears. Just as Nemesis Prime seemed victorious, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] attacked the fallen Prime from behind, killing him. Nemesis's death allowed the Darkness finally to enter Optimus, who tried to fight against its evil to no avail. Galvatron offered the Autobot a choice: kill himself by plunging into the [[Solar pool]], or pass on the Darkness to Galvatron, who had coveted it for so long. Optimus seemed to do so willingly, but just as he passed on the Darkness, he threw the surprised Galvatron into the solar pool. As Optimus gazed upon the dead body of Nemesis, he told himself he could not mourn the elder Prime's death, as Nova had truly died long ago. {{storylink|Spotlight: Sideswipe}}

[[Image:AHMPrimecritical.jpg|right|250px|thumb|So he's dying. [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|This shouldn't be a problem by now]].]]
A year later, Optimus Prime combined his Autobot squad with another squad. Having received word of a supposed Decepticon power struggle, Prime led the Autobots to a location where Starscream's "group" was, only to be ambushed by a unified Decepticon force. Though they managed to turn the tide briefly, Devastator's appearance made the difference, enabling Megatron to rip the Matrix of Leadership from Prime's chest. Prime was dealt another blow (mentally) when the Autobots were told that they'd been sold out by a traitor in their ranks (who was later revealed to be [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]). {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 8|All Hail Megatron #8}} The Autobots were led to a space bridge, where Prime, who was the last to go, used his remaining energy to destroy the machine. Unfortunately, this heroic act left Prime in critical condition. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7|All Hail Megatron #7}} With this defeat, the Autobots were forced to leave Earth to the Decepticons. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 1|All Hail Megatron #1}}

After Prime's unit met up with Kup's unit, and after dealing with the Swarm and Sideswipe's sacrifice to save them, Ratchet and Wheeljack managed to use energon from the ''Trion'' to bring Prime back online in time to smooth over an Autobot argument. As the others excitedly welcomed him back, Prime made a speech about how he was proud of them and that he wanted to win the war. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 9|All Hail Megatron #9}}. After the Autobots recovered and prepared for a final stand against the Swarm, Prime had a brief chat with Ironhide (during which Ironhide admitted to hating him secretly at first sight at the start of the Great War), then prepared for the Swarm's onslaught. When they came, the Autobots fought back, but they were quickly outnumbered by the thousands. Thankfully, Omega Supreme arrived and saved them from certain doom. After Omega briefly told them about his arrival, Prime ordersed him to transform and transport the Autobots back to Earth. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 10|All Hail Megatron #10}}

Arriving at New York City while the Decepticons were fending off attacks by a European air squad, Optimus and the Autobots began to engage the Decepticons again. After a bit of fighting, and with the threat of Devasator, Optimus ordered Omega Supreme to take Devastator away from the city and fight him elsewhere. Optimus Prime encountered Megatron, and the two engaged in a bit of viewpoint bantering, mostly about the way their war was now changing and the fact that the humans Prime had "sworn to protect" were about to drop a nuclear bomb on the city. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 11|All Hail Megatron #11}}

[[Image:AHM-13 Prime mouth.jpg|thumb|left|Optimus will overenergize on this stuff, then wake up the next morning in a deserted field, his clothes and wallet stolen.]]

After that, they engaged in a fierce battle while trading more banter. At first, Megatron took the advantage, but just as he was about to leave with the Decepticons and take the Matrix with him, a shot from [[Shockwave (G1)|an experimental weapon made from a Transformer]] fired by [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|a brave human]] hit him it the face. Seizing the opportunity, Optimus grabbed Megatron's fusion cannon and slammed it against Megatron's head, bringing him down in defeat. Before Optimus could truly finish him off, however, Starscream intervened and, after exchanging words, took off with Megatron and the Matrix. Prime's decision to go after them or save New York from nuclear devastation was rendered moot when Thundercracker, who had grown disenchanted with the way the Decepticons went after the humans, blew up the bomb at the cost of his own life (thanks to an angry Skywarp). The war over for the moment, Prime met with Spike Witwicky, thanked him for helping the Autobots out, and asked if there was some way to help the humans in return. However, Spike responded that they had brought their war to Earth, so any chance of human-Transformer relations was now long gone. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 12|All Hail Megatron #12}}

Later, in an abandoned cave supposedly somewhere within NY's ruins, Optimus heard Iromhide's resignation from the Autobot forces. Respecting Ironhide too much, he did not argue, but after some energon and a little flashback, Optimus convinced Ironhide to stay. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 13}}

{{note|The events of ''Spotlight: Mirage'' possibly take place in an alternate/unknown continuity.}}

Optimus Prime commanded one of the last remaining pockets of Autobot resistance, hiding out in the [[Pegasus Star Cluster]]. While awaiting the arrival of Bumblebee's team, he and Hound tried to work out how to convert the [[Zodiac Energy]] for their consumption. "Bumblebee's" arrival proved to be their downfall, as it was really the self-serving mercenary [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]], who destroyed the bunker security systems, allowing the Decepticons inside. Optimus Prime refused to surrender during the ensuing struggle, until Mirage used the critically injured Jetfire as a hostage, forcing Prime to back down. When Megatron betrayed Mirage's word and ordered the execution of the Autobots, Optimus Prime tried to reason with the mercenary, appealing to his former friendship with Hound...until Mirage killed Hound in defiance. Furious, Optimus Prime broke free of his captors and tackled Mirage into the Zodiac Energy chamber. {{storylink|Spotlight: Mirage}}

===''Hearts of Steel''===
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The Autobots and the Decepticons came to [[Earth|a distant world]] in the grip of an ice age. Assuming alternate modes based upon the [[Dinosaur|dominant (though doomed) indigenous creatures]] of this planet, they continued their ancient, unending war. However, the Autobots, with their energy levels dangerously low, withdrew from combat as the world grew colder. They sought refuge in a deep cavern and entered [[stasis lock]], awaiting the day when surface conditions changed to better suit their operation. Millions of years later, Bumblebee was awoken by the hammering of humans working on a rail line. He briefly considered awakening Optimus Prime, but thought better of it. After discovering the world had changed significantly, Ratchet thought there was no reason to awaken Prime. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 1}} When Bumblebee discovered the Decepticons were once again active on this world, Ratchet and Prowl agreed that the Autobots must intervene, but again decided out of rousing Optimus from his slumber. {{Storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 2|Hearts of Steel #2}}

{{Note|Optimus Prime appears very briefly in the first few pages, in his "Ice Age Wars" body (we only see him in robot mode, but his altmode is a brachiosaurus<ref>[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=d5d311674e796c81d010d26ac751389b&showtopic=10074&st=20&p=266183&#entry266183 Allspark forums post] by [[Guido Guidi]], August 15th, 2006</ref>. He spends most of the story in stasis lock. [[:Image:Opthos.jpg|Unused concept art]] depicts him as transforming into a locomotive engine.}}
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===''Henkei! Henkei!'' pack-in comics===

{{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 1}} {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 2}} {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 7}}

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===''Comic Bun Bun Henkei! Henkei!'' comic===

{{storylink|Enter! The Transformers}} {{storylink|Enter the Emperor of Destruction!}} {{storylink|Kingdom of Giants}} {{storylink|The Enemy from the Arctic}} {{storylink|Wataru's Power}} {{storylink|Optimus Prime's Secret}} {{storylink|Time of Resurrection}} {{storylink|Creation! The New Emperor of Destruction!!}} {{storylink|The Threat of Galvatron}}

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===Alternity===

In 2007, the Optimus Prime of [[universal stream]] Primax 109.0 Beta encountered a mysterious messenger from another world: another incarnation of himself from the multiverse, who left him with a warning. Two years hence, Megatron would bring the terrifying super-dimensional lifeform known as the "Beast of Time", [[Hytherion]], into their dimension to destroy Earth. The only thing that could battle Hytherion was the power of the super-evolved multi-dimensional race of Cybertronians known as the [[Alternity (species)|Alternity]]. Prime agreed that when the danger appeared, he would join the Alternity in the fight.

Sure enough, in 2009, when Hytherion's colossal claw-marks appeared on planets throughout the solar system, Prime's other-dimensional incarnation returned, bringing with him an [[Auto-avatar]] with which Prime fused. In that instant, he was reborn as part of the Alternity, a manifold being who encompassed all the different incarnations of Optimus Prime through the multiverse at once. Prime reached his hands heaveanward and peeled back the layers of reality, exposing the gargantuan fanged maw of Hytherion looming above the Autobots. {{storylink|From Here to Alternity}}

===''Robot Heroes'' comic===
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{{storylink|I Am Optimus Prime (Robot Heroes)|I Am Optimus Prime}}

===Commercial appearances===
Optimus Prime has appeared in more [[Commercial|television commercials]] than any other Transformer... just like with everything else. He has been voiced by Peter Cullen in every animation segment in which he's had a speaking role.

[[Image:Toycommercial-firstPrime.jpg|right|thumb|My wheels don't disappear!]]

* He was one of the featured characters in the first ever appearance of the Transformers anywhere, an advertisement for the first issue of [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|the Generation 1 comic]]. He arrives in the midst of a desert battle as the Decepticons attacked a power plant on Earth, driving to back up his troops in defending it. He strikes a rather iconic pose as he transforms and fires, which would be replicated and copied numerous times in the early years of the franchise. This first commercial used nonfinal versions of the characters' [[character model]]s; Optimus Prime, for example, still had wheels on his legs. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9-7RjhFzpM]

* In a commercial for the [[Triple Changer]]s, Optimus confronts Astrotrain on a desert battlefield, but the Triple-Changer escapes under fire from other Autobots. Shortly afterward, Prime uses Perceptor's microscope mode to examine a fragment of Decepticon battle armor. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WssZjIsUIU]

* Prime and Jazz are shown fighting Megatron in the desert in an ad for the 1985 cars, whom he summons to help out with the battle. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WssZjIsUIU]

* Prime narrates two commercials around the time of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', describing the action as [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] battles [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]], and [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] take on the [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]]. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X-10pud7DY]

[[Image:Toycommercial-PowermasterOptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|An integral part of Powermaster Prime's transformation is Joyride shooting lightning bolts through his pointed finger.]]

* Prime was prominently featured in the ad for the first comic issue featuring the [[Powermaster]]s. On the rocky plains where practically every Transformer battle ever seems to happen, Prime arrives in his Powermaster body to back up three of his troops against Dreadwind and Darkwing. He's shown combining with [[Hi-Q]] and transforming, attacking with his trailer's battle station mode, then combining with the trailer to continue the attack. Who wins? Find out in [[People Power!|Marvel Comics]]! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voX_KNNxNCI]

[[Image:OptimusQuickswitchCommercial.jpg|right|thumb|Optimus Prime is so giving, he even gives other Transformers time in his commercials.]]

* Prime also features briefly in [[Quickswitch]]'s ad; in a battle on the moon, Quickswitch transforms to gun mode and is wielded by Powermaster Optimus Prime.

* An abbreviated ad for Powermaster Prime uses footage from both the Marvel Comic and Quickswitch commercials.

* Prime's Powermaster body shows up yet again in the [[Classic Pretender|Pretender Classic]]s ad. He comes under attack in the darkened streets of the city, prompting the narrator to explain that he needs the greatest Transformers ever! Prime then welcomes back Bumblebee and Jazz in their Pretender forms. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mahbq-FnSPY]

* Powermaster Prime and [[Piranacon]] are the representatives from each faction that [[Doubledealer]] doublecrosses! Everyone wonders who that guy is that Prime's talking to... He looks kinda suspicious!

* Optimus features prominently in the first [[Action Master]] commercial; he's shown surrounded by a circle of his troops, and challenges them to give up their transforming powers to become faster, stronger, more alive! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeNf3jQ1zdw]

* A stock intro was used for several Micromaster commercials, with Optimus opening his fist to reveal a Micromaster city within.

[[Image:Hotrodpatrolcommercial.jpg|right|thumb|Prime wants to know if they can transform, because he sure can't!]]

* A similar sequence in another Micromaster has Prime opening his fist to find the [[Hot Rod Patrol]] inside. He and Jazz check them out, and Optimus wonders if they can transform.

* In an ad for the Micromaster micro bases, a battle rages outside an Autobot base, and Prime watches impassively as Bumblebee and Jazz pull two [[Interstellar shuttle|captured]] [[Attack Copter|vehicles]] into the base. Prime is the first to notice that the vehicles are transforming and shooting things.

* Prime and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] are the stars of the first ''[[Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]'' commercial, animated with [[Computer-generated imagery|CGI]]. Prime is shown driving down a road in his ''Generation 2'' colored truck mode. He rocket-launches up into the air to transform, then has a brutal fight with Ramjet. Despite getting a hole blasted in his chest, he wins the fight and fires his gun into the air in triumph. Non-speaking.

* Prime also is shown briefly in a commercial for the new Megatron tank toy. He transforms and finds his head in a target crosshairs. In the subsequent toy segment, Prime's toy is shown getting completely trashed by that of Megatron. Non-speaking.

* And finally, Prime got his own rap segment. He's shown in his Combat toy body, waiting for Megatron as he attacks a human subdivision. Prime converts to robot form, blows up Megatron's weapon at point blank range, and slugs it out with him. Apparently emerging victorious, is next shown sitting next to an identical truck, which the live-action kid mistakes for the real thing. The real Prime then transforms and picks up the kid, inspecting the human with his cold, lifeless, flashing red optics. Prime is once again voiced by Peter Cullen in this commercial.

Prime also appeared in commercials for ''Transformers'' products other than the toys themselves...

* In the ad for [[Coleco]]'s [[Power Cycle]], Optimus Prime shoots ''at'' a child riding the titular cycle, but misses. This footage is recycled from the advertisement for the comic.

* Prime delivers a load of shoes to schoolchildren in a South American ad for [[Bata]]'s licensed ''Transformers'' footwear.

==Toys==
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==Merchandise==
:''Main article: [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Merchandise|Merchandise]]''

==Notes==
* According to [[Bob Budiansky]], longtime comics writer [[Denny O'Neil]] named Optimus Prime prior to Budiansky being brought on to the ''Transformers'' project.

* Optimus Prime's Japanese name is "Convoy", which is named after his original name "Battle Convoy" in the [[Diaclone]] toyline, because the name "Optimus Prime" is difficult for Japanese kids to remember and pronounce. <ref>'''Figure-Oh''' No. 114</ref>

*According to an early ''[[Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)|Universe]]''-style profile published in ''[[The Transformers Comics Magazine]]'', Optimus Prime's "official" nicknames were at one point considered to be "Autobot Commander", "Chief", "Big Boss" and "Roller". As far as it is known, no piece of fiction has ever purposely addressed him using these nicknames, though it's a fair bet he's been called "chief" at least once or twice anyway.

* He [[Letters page (Marvel UK)|allegedly]] hates the music of [[wikipedia:Mötley_Crüe|Mötley Crüe]].

* According to the staff of ''[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'', Optimus Prime became a space explorer in the [[Beast Era]].<ref>[[Beast Wars Universe]] ISBN 978-4766938005</ref>

[[Image:Optimusprime-mom.jpg|right|125px|thumb|Prime's mom knows how to write in cursive.]]
* By the time Optimus Prime appeared in ''[[Beast Machines (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'', his 3D model from ''Beast Wars'' had apparently been lost, leading the animators to use a faceplated Optimus Primal head as a quick replacement to save time and budget.

* Aside from occasionally having Alpha Trion as a father figure, Optimus Prime may have a mother! In an advertisement for [[Pepsi Convoy]] that shows him in a refrigerator (along with [[Destron Pizza]]), a note attached to a nearby piece of Tupperware reads:

:''Dear Convoy''
:''Warm it before you eat''
:''Mom''

:Although the ad itself is for Pepsi Convoy, he is a separate character, and it can be assumed that the note was left for Convoy/Optimus Prime himself.

* The first wave of Dreamwave posters in 2001 identified Optimus Prime as [http://www.comicden.com/merch/posters.htm "Captimus Primus"], which is tantalizingly close to making some sort of sense.

* According to EJ Su, Optimus Prime's [[Holomatter|Holomatter avatar]] is modeled after [[wikipedia:Ulysses_S._Grant|Ulysses S. Grant]].<ref>[http://www.protodepot.com/archive/2007_11_01_archive.html Idea: Holomatter Projection]</ref>

* As of [[All Hail Megatron issue 13|All Hail Megatron #13]], Optimus has a mouth underneath that [[faceplate]] of his.

==External links==
* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Optimus_Prime Optimus Prime's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Optimus_Prime_PM Powermaster Optimus Prime's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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