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Talk:Hosehead (G1)

2007-10-17T09:34:15Z

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===Spare pic===
[[Image:hosehead1.jpg|right|thumb|100px|His character model is a real beauty, eh.]]

I prefer the boxart to the TFU art.

== Captions ==

Here's a compromise: That one image has a non-Great White North caption of my choice, and the other three have Great White North captions. Fair? [[User:JW|JW]] 02:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
:Let me tell you about a man with a dream. A dream of taking an obvious and stupid gag and just unmercifully running it into the ground. 'Cause that's what it's all about, right? Am I right, huh, huh? Now, if YOU wanna be the guy to just take that dream and throw it on the floor and stomp on it till it dies, well, just BE MY GUEST. No no! Don't worry about me. I'll be fine. I'll carry on. I shall find a way.... to persevere... ''somehow''.

:OR, uh, sure, I guess that'll work.
: -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 03:27, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

::As Repowers was the one who actually uploaded the Marvel pictures, he has final say on what the captions are, unless they are supremely bad or against rules in some way. I don't mind either, but in the spirit of following rules and common courtesy, I'd leave them the way he likes it. - FFN<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Transformers (film)

2007-10-15T04:39:27Z

203.166.96.236: /* Titan and Target Comics names */

==High-res movie model renders==
Are we allowed to use the ultra high-res renders of the actual movie CG models of Prime, Bumblebee and Megs that were released to the press a few days ago? Shrunken down so they're not huge files, obviously. I noticed enewsi.com was using them for their Making of the movie article. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:31, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

==Movie nav==
Is there any way to put it underneath the main picture? Its screwing up the formatting and makes the page look really haphazard. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:19, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
:Do we want it under? It seems to... really not serve it's purpose if it's not on top. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:29, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

::If its purpose is to make the page look fucking terrible, then yeah, I don't want it to serve that purpose, because that's what it DOES. There has GOT to be someplace better to put that. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:26, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

:::The problem is that putting it somewhere ''other'' than top-left limits its usefulness. I've been using it to snap back and forth between pages, and it's really awfully handy. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

::::The problem is the main picture should not have to cut into the main body of the article merely because of the nav. Regardless of screen real estate, it bunches up the text to one side. Plus, pictures are typically wider than the nav, so they should be above it. Or above the introductory text. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:28, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, either the image goes, the nav thing goes, or we have to completely redo the navbar to work with pages and not fucking destroy them. Walky has spoken. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:47, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
:[http://www.emopanda.com/tmp/proposed_solution.png Proposed solution] - a horizontal bar across the top. Smaller footprint. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
:: That's still not layout-friendly, though it's better. Wikipedia seems to work fine with all its intra-series navigation at the bottom. Is that not a worthwhile solution here? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:58, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Got an example? (And yes, my proposed solution isn't layout friendly, merely low-impact.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:01, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Was changing the Movie nax box found to be unworkable? Because the vertical box we have really is like a big scar at the top of the page. --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 07:33, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

:No consensus was reached on a new design, so no changes were made. (I agree the current design is ugly... but we ''could'' just wait until July 8th when Paramount announces there's going to be a sequel, then we can banish the franchise navigation to a page for the movie ''series'', and leave the pages for the individual movies clear.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:49, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

::I think it would be alright to put the navbox under the main image, personally. At least as a temporary fix. I agree that we need a more permanent solution, though, so that the nav can work with pages that have a main image in the first place. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 14:30, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

==Officially released pictures==
Now that Hasbro has put up some renders of Barricade, Bumblebee and Prime on their site, can we use those for the character articles? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:02, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Does the picture of Prime and Megatron belong on this page already? -[[User:EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 01:40, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

: I don't think we've seen any officially released pictures of Megatron. EDIT: Oh wait, the poster. Doh. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

==For the love of God==
Can we PLEASE not have "argh the movie sucks and the designs blow and it's ruining my childhood" plastered all over these pages?

==for the love of God, part 2==
Can we also please wait until things are actually published to start throwing movie stuff in here and there? I imagine quite a few of us are avoiding reading spoiler-intensive reviews of issues that are due merely weeks later. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:31, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

==Characters?==
I'm unsure as to whether I consider, say, new movie Bonecrusher to be the same character as G1 Bonecrusher in the sense that he should like to [[Bonecrusher (G1)]] and be written up in that entry like any other continuity. I kinda feel like he, and probably Scorponok and maybe Brawl, aren't "the same guy" in the sense that Megatron, Starscream, and the Autobots seem to be. On the other hand, it's probably impossible to really make a good judgement on that until the movie actually comes out. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:46, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
: That's the gist of the comment I put on my update, yes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:21, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it may be a good idea to just set up a (Movie) category or sub-category unless something super G1-specific happens. ----[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 04:59, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Chances are, we'll end up having to do (Movie) pages for all of these characters anyway, so I wouldn't really worry about it until the movie's been released. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 05:09, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

:We'll have to worry about it sooner! The IDW prequel comic comes out next month. I had a discussion about this with Steve-o in person a while back, but I figger I should give my idea here.
: I think everyone from the movie should be given their own page, under X (Movie) if they require the (Movie) tag for disambiguation purposes. This is not to say that they will be considered separate characters. For obvious carry-overs like Optimus Prime and Bumblebee, they will simply have Movie sections on their G1 pages that have, for example, "''See [[Bumblebee (Movie)]]''" under the header, like Optimus Prime's toy section. (Stuff like this will especially come in handy on Prime's page, which is too long for more material already.)
: My reasoning for doing this to all the characters? The Movie is a huge franchise, and something that will be THE most prominent and pervasive Transformers media, probably of all time, and so separating them will increase ease of use, especially for more casual browsers. This will also allow us to focus exclusively on these versions of characters in a better way, with concept design stages, once the Art of" books come out, maybe even have a "Differences between the movie version and previous versions of the characters" section, again which would be beneficial to more casual browsers. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:05, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
::That all makes good sense to me. I am wondering, though, about what the continuity notes for the Movie-character articles should say. Would the Movie and its related fiction be a labeled as a portion of G1, or would it be called a new continuity family of its own? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
::That I'm not 100% sure on. Though if Bumblebee, Prime, Megatron, Starscream, and Jazz are considered versions of the G1 character, I would say that probably necessitates it being considered in the G1 continuity family based on that technicality. If it's its own continuity family, then it can't share any of another continuity family's characters without some dimension-hopping. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:39, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, this begs the question of what qualifies as "G1." From the sound of things, the movie has about as much in common with G1 as Armada did; in that it was definantly INSPIRED by G1 and definantly shapes a lot of things around what came in G1, but it also treads a lot of new ground and sort of does it's own thing. I mean, there's not a whole heaping lot fo different between Optimus in Armada and Optimus in G1. Likely there is going to be about the same ammount of difference for Optimus in the movie. I vote we give the movie it's own continuity family. Of course, that means we need to name it. Transformers (2007 Film) Continuity Family?--[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 17:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
::::"Dreamworks continuity"? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 01:27, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, that hs a similar issue as calling it the Film continuity, as Dreamworks isn't responsible for all the content for it. Heh, if we wanted to be real smartasses, we could call it "Michael Bay Continuity Family." Honestly though, after looking at it, the most central thing to this new continuity is the movie, as much as I don't want to wind up with that one, I can't think of a better option. The others are probably right in that we should wait and see if a good tagline pops up. (Had Aaron Archer not come up with the Unicron Trilogy, I wonder if we'd stil be calling it A-E-C. :D) --[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 01:36, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
So, should we replace Bonecrusher by Wreckage?--[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 18:37, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:Why? --M Sipher
:GUIGUI, Wreckage is not Bonecrusher. Wreckage is a toyline-only character. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:00, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
::Say now, toyline-only characters. Should that be a category, since we've got *-only categories for pretty much everything else? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
==Frenzy==
When Movie Frenzy's picture goes up, I demand the quote be "They are all laser-guided and I get CRAZY if you touch them!" or similar Ghost of Christmas Past from the Future shenanigans.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 20:24, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
:I have it on good authority that Frenzy survived the quickening of the Dragonoids. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:33, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
::Done [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 02:31, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

== Movie is not G1 ==

My recommendation is that when the Michael Bay/Steven Spielberg movie is out, we should not treat it as being part of the G1 continuity family. G1 are characters from 1984-1992 and any continuity that spins out of or reboots either cartoon or comic.

It would be a mistake to label the Movie as part of this G1 tree. The writers themselves have said that they took inspiration from G1 but also from other storylines. It's the same with the X-Men movies: the Phoenix was really Ultimate Marvel though the cure plot was from Astonishing X-Men. And then Spider-Man 2 had stuff from the 50th issue where Spider-Man gives up being a superhero, but Doc Ock isn't in that issue, Kingpin is.

All I have to say is the movie is a new universe, something very new, a different interpretation of Transformers. It is like somebody just really liked the Autobots and Decepticons and made a movie of it. We may get nods here and there, and there are G1 characters there, but we shouldn't treat it the same.

:I'm not sure it's appropriate to make a final decision either way at this time. We'll call it when we see it. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 20:34, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

We already have a split:
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)]]
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)]]
*[[Jazz (Movie)]]
*[[Ironhide (Movie)]]
*[[Blackout (Movie)]]
*[[Barricade (Movie)]]

The above argument is that it's confusing universes and continuity families. yes, clearly we now that Spider-man 2 isn't int he same UNIVERSe as the Spider-man comics...but tha characters in it ''are'' Spider-man, and Doc Ock, and Harry Osborn. They are the 'classic' Spider-man versions. They're not the Japanese Spider-man who is a reporter (I think) with a talking car, or the Danish one who throws canal-salt, or the Indian one who has Krishna-given powers. THOSE character, using this analogy, would be like the ARMADA versions of Optimus Prime.<br/>
We know there are like 20 or 30 versions of Gen 1 Optimus Prime that all represent the same character, but whose backstory and adventures do not occur in the same universe. They 'are' all G1 Prime. On the other hand, we have 2 or 3 Optimsu Primes we recognize to be 'Armada Prime,' whose backstory and adventure ae ALSO irreconcilable, but we also recognize to still 'be' the same guy, albeit fundamentally different from G1 Prime.<br/>
You are arguing about universes. We are talking about continuity families.

You may be ''right'' that Movie Prime should be spun off (I haven't seen any proof of it) but your argument is mis-framed. You're saying Earth 615 Captain America isn't Captain America. (10 points to whoever gets that one!) when you mean 'he isn't the same individual as Earth 616 Captain America.'

(I just assume that supplementary materials from the movie are goign to give Movie Optimus Prime so many shared life experiences and universe elements with regular G1 Prime, that we'll live to regret placing him in a separate category, and conclude he is the same character. It seems a safe bet, given how TF is written.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
: Of course, the fun part is that apparently Japan considers the movie as part of their mainstream G1 continuity happening in 2007. That should either be some fun dubbing or it's going to require some huge suspension of disbelief. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:13, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

:: It's probably no more difficult that shoehorning Cybertron into the Armada-Energon continuity.... Anyway, I would argue (as someone else did earlier) that Movie Prime will probably resemble (and differ from) G1 Prime about as much as Armada Prime did. I vote for new continuity family.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 20:49, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

==Title==
Shouldn't this be at either [[Transformers (film)]] (there's no other films by that name) or [[Transfomers (2007 film)]] (the current name implies that this is about Transformers in general in 2007)? [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 00:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
:Or [[Transformers (live movie)]]--[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 00:26, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
==Keith David==

YEsterday, Keith David was confirmed as Barricade's VA

== SCARCASM! ==

If this an alien concept to people?

Yes, I do indeed think the movie is going to rock out loud. I am foaming at the gash at the prospect of seeing it! The storyline section of the article is intended to POKE FUN AT THE PEOPLE who say that it is "Not Transformers" for various reason, by LISTING THE WAYS THAT IT IS. That'd be a completely ''shit'' story summary if it was supposed to be actually telling you anything about the movie, rather than just describing all the ways it's like G1.

AAAAAAAAA - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 22:37, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Personally I feel that this whole entire wikia is too full of sarcasm and smart-alecky-ness. Wikis are meant to report facts about a subject, not for nerds and fanboys (for that's what all of us here are) to act like wise-ass jerks about what we love. I'm new here, and I came here looking for information, which is what wikis are for. Instead, I get smart-aleck articles chopped full of sarcasm and pictures with annoying captions instead of saying WHAT the picture is of. I love Transformers, people, but this is a POORLY run wiki.--[[User:72.66.73.224|72.66.73.224]] 04:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
:[[Image:Megatrong1.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Art of Generation 1 Megatron!]]On [[Megatron (G1)|G1 Megatron's page]], the caption to the right would be insultingly redundant. If a photo's subject does not need additional clarification, a straightforward caption is absolutely unneeded. If the captions that are there annoy you, then you can feel free to not read them! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:57, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
:Note: Official Star Wars people love our wiki's tone. Also, if humor and facts can coexist as they do here, why, exactly, shouldn't they? The information is all there regardless. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:03, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
::To add, I reject the idea that wikis are supposed to present information in a very set, certain way that is unified across all wikis. Because that's false. There are plenty of wikis that don't present information just like Wikipedia does. Count us one of them. (This discussion needs to be moved somewhere else. Probably under the 30 other identical discussions from the other anonymous hi-then-bye folks.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Ok, all that aside, what about the original subject here, about using sarcasm in the plot desciption in order to poke fun at the haters of the film? Firstly, it's a twisted version of the truth, and wikis are about facts, secondly, since wikis are freely editiable, it's a vandalizing fight just waiting to happen. A hater will edit it in a way to bash the supporters, the supporters will edit back to bash the haters, and it'll go on and on. And quite frankly, ever since the announcement trailer last year, I have been sick and tired of all the fighting i've been seeing on the web.--[[User:72.66.73.224|72.66.73.224]] 20:56, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
:::: Frankly, that entire summary's going to be replaced once the film's officially out. It's just a placeholder. And until then, I think it's fine. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:02, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
::::: Yeah, that's just what I was going to say myself. I wrote the thing, only intended for it to be a bit of snarky filler material until an ACTUAL summary can be added in. Indeed, a goodly portion of the wiki's snark tends to steadily be filtered out as articles are filled in more and more. But, really, I've got no problem with people not liking the film for reason x, or reason y - but "It's not Transformers" is twaddle. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:07, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::Dight, if Beast Machines is Transformers, thant his is Transformers. And I don't debate that BM is Transformers- it's just '''bad''' Transformers. Fortunately, its badness was subsequently eclipsed by the Unicron Trilogy, so we can now look back on Beast Machines fondly. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:19, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

:Way to get totally butthurt over a wiki, dude. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:10, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

==Welker==
Editor assumption?
<blockquote>GameSpot chats with Frank Welker, the voice of Megatron in the original animated series and upcoming Transformers game and movie. [http://www.gamespot.com/news/6168694.html ]</blockquote>

::That, or my elaborate conspiracy theory is right and Hugo Weaving as Megs is a trick to suprise us with Megs actually being voiced by Welker. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 00:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Voice Actors Revealed ==

Optimus - Peter Cullen

Megatron - Hugo Weaving

Bumblebee - Mark Ryan

Ironhide - Jess Harnell

Barricade - Jess Harnell

Ratchet - Robert Foxworth

Bonecrusher - Jimmie Wood

Jazz - Darius McCrary

Starscream - Charlie Adler

Frenzy - Reno Wilson

Source: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=137541

:The post that this "news" originated from: [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=137530 http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=137530]. Note that while it's said this came from an Australian press conference, credit is given to an anonymous source. Seems rather dubious to me, given the lack of Keith David. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 21:32, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
::I heard David's only doing Barricade in the game -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 21:45, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
::Except this doesn't match up with the voice actors we know for the game either (Welker, for instance). I doubt it'll be long before we have corroborated list, however.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 02:40, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
:::At this point, we need more than "heard," no offense. :) We need some solid info before we take any of this information to heart. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
::::The post in that link I posted above has been edited, and now cites a source. Looks like this may be legit, although I'm still wondering about Barricade/Keith David. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::And taking a look at the now cited [http://otca.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=1879&st=0&p=17142&#entry17142 original source] I'm thinking: Lists Jess Harnell twice + posted from an airport = possible mistake on who Barricade's VA is. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:48, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::"news"? Was that tone really necessary? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::In light of later developments that does seem harsh. When the original post was made at TFW, it said the info came from a press conference via an annoymous source. Combining that with the contradiction of Barricade's previously reported VA, it made the whole list seem highly dubious. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 06:41, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showpost.php?p=1363309&postcount=137 Griffin adds some more info] --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:50, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Seems like Keith David really may not be in the movie after all. Hard to imagine a press book with bios on all the VAs leaving him out. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:06, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::A guy posted in the same thread stating that David had signed his Legends Barricade and said he was only playing the character in the game. Since there's no proof, its not really 'evidence', but it suggests that the press book is right. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:54, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

David is confirmed for the game, but, according to the pople who saw the australian version, only Megaron and Starscream speak english. So I'm not sure if that va list is reliable
:Other people who were at that same screening say otherwise, as seen in the "Griffin adds some more info" link above, in which the writer gives his best recollection as to how much each Decepticon says. Also, just because a character doesn't speak English doesn't mean he won't have a voice actor. If he speaks Cybertronian or makes grunts and groans and other noises, those may all have real voices behind them. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 21:52, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Umm...
Bonecrusher's not a bulldozer.
I mean, sarcastic half truths are rad and all, but outright inaccuracies, when they don't add to the humor, don't seem like a good idea.

==This is NOTHING like Transformers==

I normally like the humour on this site, but this is pure bullshit. It purposely selectively picks the things that they have in common with G1, while ignoring the other vast differences, such as Ironhide, Ratchet, Megatron and Starscream looking nothing like any canonical version, Jazz being a cocky trendy "hip hop" guy instead of the blues musician type he was in the cartoon, the sheer human focus, the fact that the Decepticons are barely even CHARACTERS, the fact that Bumblebee doesn't speak, the fact that Optimus Prime has a hideous mouth. You can list as many differences as you can similiarities.

This sarcasm reminds me too much of Redsquadron and it pisses me off. It's not even funny in the least, it's obviously such ass launching yet another attack at people who are barely allowed have an opinion in theTF community.

The more vicious pro-movie crowd are the ones that need the mick taken out of them.

:I was unaware that movie Ironhide, Ratchet, Megatron and Starscream are non-canon :-O
:The fact that you got so infuriated over the fact some people here made fun of other people who got infuriated over the movie is circular and now I've gone all cross-eyed and need to lie down.

:Without actually addresing the above: it is time for the sarcasm to be removed entirely from this article, and replaced with a straightforward summary. Especially with that big "Looking for information about the movie?" banner on the main page. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, the body of the article does need to be desnarked now that the movie is actually out. But we shouldn't forget that the anonymous guy we're responding to is completely hilarious. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:15, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Fair thee well, my glorious, most-controversial snark! You... sure caused a lot of trouble! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:52, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

"the anonymous guy we're responding to is completely hilarious."

Hah, so says Walky, the guy who almost always deals with people who wants but isn't quite capable of arguing with by mocking and snarking them, usually by means of a poor author surrogate getting angry at a strawman of a particular fan archetype he dislikes, with no real reasoning as to how the real life equivalent is improper behaviour.

But I expect you find this hilarious too - after all, if someone is hilarious or insane, you don't have to answer them. Of course I'm bloody "hilarious" to you, given your views on "Fanboys".

Nice to see the article was cleaned up, though.

:Re: "I expect you find this hilarious too" -- yeah, more or less. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 00:06, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

==Full summary==
Okay, so who's up to the task of writing the full-ass scene-by-scene summary of the movie? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

:Well, I staked down a start there. If we want to go scene-by-scene, I can start pounding that out tonight. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 18:57, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

==Production staff==

Is there a reason that "YAAAY!" for Spielberg and "BOOM!" for Bay got nixed? I didn't think those were ''too'' lighthearted for this article, given that we go so far as to reference a song most people didn't hear for the caption snark. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 18:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
: I'd rather we keep the jokes to the captions. Little commentaries behind the names on the cast and crew strike me as bleh. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

=="Transformers are awesome./No, I DON"==

My summary box was supposed to say "No, I DON'T feel like being useful right now. It's past my bed time." However, in the midst of my uselessness, I developed fat fingers and hit "enter" too early. I quickly hit Escape, hoping to cancel the edit before it posted, but it posted anyway. I intended to continue on, hoping what happened would be obvious by the two successive Recent Changes listings, but my second submission did not seem to actually submit at all. All in all, I've actually contributed nothing anyway, so I wish to publically apologize to you all for deciding not to refrain from being silly and stupid. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 09:48, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

:You are a horrible person. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

==Success and Failure==

I changed Success to mention how much money this has made and added Failure to mention how the critics have panned it for not spending enough time with the Transformers. I got it from Wikipedia, though I added a little light hearted commentary. I hope no one minds. [[User:67.186.34.123|67.186.34.123]] 23:31, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
:Depends on the critic, and 'panned' is abit harsh. Half of the american critics who definately panned the movie were more determined to score 'cred' points in personally attacking Michael Bay than the shortcomics of the movie. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:53, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== Time skipped ==

It seemed like they jumped through much of the 2nd day during the movie. Sam chases his car in the morning and then Bumblebee fights Barricade under the overpass. It is daylight outside then it's dark. I didn't see where they lost several hours of daylight. Maybe I missed a time lapse thing in there. Anybody else notice this? Thanks. -[[User:Finlayson|Fnlayson]] 21:06, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
: There's a crapload of continuity errors in this movie. Notice the passage of time when Blackout arrives to his attack on the SOCCENT base. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:53, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
:* True, it takes foreverrr for that H-53 to come in. -[[User:Finlayson|Fnlayson]] 03:01, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

==Devastator==

It seems pretty ridiculous to me to have Devastator listed as Brawl on the page for the movie itself, in which he is never referred to as Brawl. The note about the name confusion seems perfectly adequate to explain why he's called Brawl elsewhere. -[[User:LV|LV]] 07:52, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

== quote ==

i just thought that maybe we could quote optimus when he tells bumblebee to stop "lubricating" that sector 7 guy [[User:81.108.233.59|81.108.233.59]] 14:32, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
: Eh, its not really a good quote - the humour is from the visual, not what anybody else said, unfortunately. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

==Reception additions==

Do we really need to turn even more pages in this wiki into a personal bitchfest about other fans? I agree with some arguments about fan complaints on this wiki, but its getting ridiculous, and frankly, people who don't care either way about Fandom Drama are being turned off. You guys all have your own websites, blogs and forums to bitch about other people. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:02, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
:...that particular addition was, as I saw it, quite favorable to fans. Fans are pessimists, but even never-pleased fans admit they liked the movie, a sign of maturity.
:The second part then upends the never-pleased stereotype by pretending a legitimate issue is in fact just fans whining.
:I'm not a big fan of down on fans. It's fun in moderation only. I added this just because... doesn't the page need ''something'' about what people thought of the movie? The existing 'reception' section focused solely on ticket sales. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:53, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
::I apologize if I misread your intent, then. I am wary of the reception section being a target for idiots and trolls or some kind of argument.
::Though, as I said, I do agree with some arguments (and have certainly witnessed much of the behaviour described on our snarky pages), but I think it needs to be done in moderation. This wiki has a tendency to take what is funny (or what we believe to be funny) and go overboard with it, hitting people over the head with the point like a mallet rather than sharp stabbing satirical critism. But I do apologize for your using edit as an example of people going overboard, when I should have commented in Ruined Forever or something. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:36, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
:::De nada. Heart int he right place, etc.
:::I'm of two minds, on the one hand, I made Ruined FREVER. OTOH, I also though the old Fandom article was too harsh. I guess the distinction was that I felt the former was playful, and the latter was mean. I also am not thrilled by excessive fandom-bashing. (I do like the new fandom article though- not because the funny is gone, but because it's actually presenting information that was being displaced by the previous snark.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:32, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
::::So, "This frivolous complaint highlights the fans' ridiculous need to find fault with everything, no matter how unimportant." is intended to read as sarcasm? I don't think that comes across very well at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:46, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::...you don't think calling eampant racial stereotyping a frivolous complaint sounds sarcastic, or you don't think the phrasing sounds sarcastic? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:15, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::I can easily imagine people reading that sentence as legitimately calling the stereotyping issue a frivolous, unimportant complaint. Because, frankly, I'm sure that there are people who believe exactly that. I suggest removing the sarcasm for the sake of clarity. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 16:26, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::*twitch* I went and deleted the entire "Fan reception" section. It may be suprising to learn, but that wasn't funny, just offensive! It was one step up from vandalizing the page with "Hur hur darkie fans!" -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 16:30, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Really, only ''one'' st-- ...You know, forget it. I'm gonna bother bringing my A-game against Rotty.
:::::::Epps aside, the movie's view of non-white people appears to be equal parts Huggy Bear, Kunta Kinte and Mantan Moreland. I don't feel a need to listen to Rotty tell me I'm a racist for thinking it's worth pointing out that made some people uncomfortable. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:02, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

::::::::Stop it, Derik. Stop it. You're not being funny by mentioning the heavy stereotyping of non-Epps black people in the movie and then calling it something trivial fans found to complain about. This is an article directly linked from the front page, and you're injecting unfunny racist humor into it. So stop. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 23:44, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Little pimple, humor is not my intent. The movie's racial politics are stuck in 1983. If mentioning that makes people uncomfortable causes you to label ''me'' a racist, the problem lies not with me. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Hurry up and upload another picture of masturbation so we can have two weeks without your vandalism. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 06:14, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Rotty, stop being abrasive and read what Derik had already written here before you joined the conversation. He intended that statement to be read sarcastically. Whether it actually ''did'' read that way or not is beside the point -- he was not being racist, he was just not communicating clearly. If you can't interact with Derik without calling him names at the opening of every exchange, please just leave him to the rest of us to deal with. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:45, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:I did read what Derik had already written. That doesn't change the fact that his sarcasm wasn't the least bit funny. Not everyone who looks up articles on this Wiki is going to go to the talk page and read through it to find out "Oh, they're not really racist." The articles need to stand on their own as reference material, not require persual of the talk pages to make sense of Derik's unfunny jokes. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 21:57, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

== The New IMAX Cut ==

I saw it tonight, and I can confirm that the tank character is still named Devastator. A few extra scenes were added, but most were pretty forgettable. The type of thing where if it was in the original movie and cut out in a new release you really wouldn't notice most likely. The fate of Barricade is still left untouched as well.
-Brand-X
:Well that's... really lame. And pretty sad for Bay to brag about it not being on the DVDs given nobody would have cared. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:47, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

==Errors==
Derik asserts that the scene where Sam, Mikaela, Maggie and Glenn are transported via the same helicopter to Hoover Dam is a mistake because they come from opposite ends of the country. I don't know about you, but to my knowledge, there is unlikely to be any helicopter in the US inventory that has the range to fly from Washington to Nevada. So more likely, Sam and Mikaela were detained at a US air base in Nevada while they waited for Keller, Banachek and the others to arrive by plane, then were all transported to Hoover at the same time via the Blackhawks.

Should this still be listed as an error or a piece of trivia? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:03, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:Are they actually in the same helicopter? I've been trying to figure that one out for a while. They cut back and forth between them, but... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:09, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
::Well they're not ACTUALLY shown in the same camera shots but you can tell by their behavior and the way they're looking at each other thay they are in the same helicopter. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:15, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:::They are without question riding in the same helicopter. However, I agree with FFN that they might have met up elsewhere and been loaded onto that chopper off-camera. The movie is littered with storytelling moments like that which should have been included but weren't. I'd say its more of a narrative oversight than an "error" since it is so easily explained. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 20:39, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Yep. I just watched one of the clips Paramount released to various enterainment websites as part of the movie publicity back in June - Sam is sitting awkwardly in his seat next to Mikaela and makes eye contact with Maggie, who smiles politely, prompting Sam to say 'So...' and then the small talk about his car turning out to be an alien robot proceeds. So should we remove it as an error and relist it as trivia, explaining what might have happened? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:46, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Okay then, yet ''another'' question goes unanswered for no apparent reason. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:30, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

===Sunset===
Bwahahahaha :D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:12, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

==Titan and Target Comics names==
Can we get a decision on what we are going to definatively call both the Titan movie comics and the Target exclusive comics? Because the Titan comics are listed under several different characters under different titles while that Target comics haven't even been acknowledged by this wiki as existing until I uploaded a couple of Sector Seven panels a month or more ago. A decision would be helpful so people know what to link images and fiction entries to in anticipation of creating actual articles on those comics, because right now we're winging it. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:07, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
:For the Target comics, I would probably go with "Transformers Movie Prequel (Target)." A case could also be made for "Transformers Movie Prequel limited edition," as that phrase also appears on the cover, non-capitalized, although it's not really part of the title. I think using (Target) provides more clarity. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 20:57, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
::Just to point this out, whatever is used for the title, when it comes to numbering [http://www.target.com/gp/browse.html/?node=347805011 Target's website] labels them Volume 1 and Volume 2. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:36, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I also prefer Target, because 'limited edition' is a description of its alledged collector value, not a part of the book's title. Now, what shall we call the Titan UK comics? -FFN<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]]'s cybertronic bodies. Panel from [[Transformers Movie Prequel (Target) Volume 2]], pencils by [[Don Figueroa]], colours by [[Josh Burcham]].

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Talk:Optimus Prime (G1)/toys

2007-08-20T04:23:47Z

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==20TH/MP==
It's a little detail, but the pic used for the 20TH Anniversary MasterPiece Convoy Optimus Prime is kind of wrong: I think it's a testshot model that has never been sold (battle damage with long stacks and wrong light's feet colors) Also, he is a lille misstransformed as the matrix "hidder" is on the wrong side.
:Its a stock photo of one of the longstack protos Hasbro keeps using for promotional images. I chose these photos because its hard to find stock photos of the actual product (I don't want to use somebody else's photos), and they're actually photographed pretty well, with no major posing or transformation problems aside from the bumper in his chest. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:11, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
::The errors should be noted, though, so we know we have to replace this photo eventually. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:13, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
:::I'd prefer a really good photo, since its the best toy he has, so might as well get the best pics possible. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:27, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Do you think we could take a remy pic?

The text for the Masterpiece/20th Prime is a bit... um... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:13, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
: Accurate?
: Abit what? I believe I wrote that at 4am. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:27, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

== Classics ==

The entry for Classics Voyager Optimus Prime (and the matching entry at [[Ultra Magnus (G1)]]) claims that his two guns "can combine together to form a back-mounted shoulder weapon." I've never heard of Classics Prime having such a feature, at least not officially. Can somebody confirm or deny? --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 23:02, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

:It's true - you leave the wind vane attached to his back, and you can then plug the smokestacks into that, and angle the whole shebang up over his shoulders to make a twin cannon. It's official an' in his instructions and stuff. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 23:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

::I never knew that. Cool. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 04:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

==Flat character==

I always thought so. Compared with Megatron, he had no charisma. He was wayyyy too honorable, level-headed, mature, just, wise, noble, etc.. *blech*[[User:71.34.68.213|71.34.68.213]] 21:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

:I'm sorry Prime wasn't evil enough for your tastes, but as far as I can tell that doesn't have anything to do with his ''toy...'' --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 23:12, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

== Merchandise ==

What about [http://tfkenkon.com/collection/act267/ this guy]? --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 14:12, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
===Revoltech===
Shouldn't Revoltech be in merchandise? I moved it in that section, but someone else move it back in toys without explaining why.

:By what possible definition is a Revoltech action figure not a toy and a 3" Titanium figure a toy? --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 20:52, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
::I know, but Titanium has transformable toys, at least. I think the best definition would be toys=sold directly by Hasbro/takara, that would make Revoltech a merchandise. But what about McDonald Toys, then? Anyway, even if the difference between Merchandise and toys became kind of blur for Mc Donald, [[Titanium]], and Even [[Action Master]], Revoltech is not sell directly by Takara/Hasbro, and neither does it transform. Which clearly set him in Merchandise at the same title than "Metal Force"--[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 21:03, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Um, wow. I know we have some idiosyncratic definitions on this Wiki (like "Comics-only character"), but I'd be very much against creating our own peculiar definition of TOY that's "sold by Takara/Hasbro". And "there's a toy that transforms in the package" as a definition would suddenly make 99% of my G.I. Joe collection not toys... --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 21:09, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

::Titaniums are directly sold by Hasbro in the same way the Kenner-branded Beast Wars and Machine Wars were. Plus, most of the characters with 3" Titaniums I've seen have them under "merchandise". Puls, while the Action Master figures (usually) didn't transform, their weapons or vehicles ''did'', and they were a mainline to boot. However, there's also guys like [[Enemy]], who has a transforming toy, but said toy is bolted to a radio that keeps his legs pointed outward. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 21:38, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

::::...In the Transformers line, Of course I don't know why I should even precise that. And I don't want to create my own definition of Merchandise/Toys differentiation, I want one to be officially created, by general consensus (unless there is already one? If so a link to it would be appreciated)! That's why I Talk about it in the Discussion part: What make a Merchandise and what make a Toy? And in which category should Revoltech be put?--[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 21:15, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

If we must have a clear criterion, I think "produced by Hasbro/Takara" may be the best we can do. And yes, that would mean moving most promotional toys like Happy Meals out of "toys" and into something else. Sadly, it would also affect toys made by GiG in Italy or by Estrela in Brazil, without some sort of concession. <s>Those were at least the same molds, so, we could base it on who owned the rights to the tooling at the time the item was produced, since GiG and Estrela were licensing them but wouldn't have owned them. (Not who ''made'' the original tooling, since then toys like Omega Supreme and Roadbuster are out.)</s>
:Hasbro '''owned''' the Bandai tooling used to filled out the line in 1985? --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 21:55, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
::Whoops -- no, they didn't. Don't know why I even wrote that. So that idea's out completely then. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 22:13, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Personally though I would rather not have a set rule for it, and instead decide things case by case. We could keep a list in the help pages of what items "count" as toys and what items don't. It's a subjective thing, but, I think we'll end up with the smallest number of silly categorizations that way. As Rotty says, I can't imagine any definition of the word "toy" that would exclude a Revoltech figure. They are nothing like Metalforce Prime. Metalforce is, IMO, very much in the "statue" area and not the "toy" area. A 3" Titanium is pretty much just a statue too, to me, but a SCF/HoC PVC figurine is moving closer to "toy".

--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 21:37, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

:I basically agree with Steve. The line between the two is fuzzy, but I feel that most everybody would agree with decisions, in this case, made somewhat arbitrarily. I don't think it's too hard to easily discern what was produced to be played with, and what was produced to be a display piece. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 21:44, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I think we can come up with a pretty good definition in that toys are designed to be played with. You can say of them that they have a "play pattern", as I did at [[Multi-property brand]]. So figures that transform into something else are toys. If you play with them by having them interact with vehicles and accessories, also toys. [[Attacktix]], [[Built to Rule]], [[MyClone]], [[Revoltech]], those are also meant to be played with. There's really no way to play with 3" Titaniums, but it would be nice to keep [[Titanium Series]] entirely under Toys when the same character has both 6" and 3" figures. 3" Titaniums and SCFs are a gray area. --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 21:53, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Notice that this "to be able to play with" distinction fall apart for softimus Prime and Optimash Prime, who are definitively done to play with. Yet, personally I would never move them in the toys Section.--[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 22:10, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
::::There's a point here, but I really think it needs to be a) signed and b) not phrased as threat of protest in order to weigh it against other opinions expressed. --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 22:05, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::I just Forgot to sign (happen from time to time, sorry) and there was absolutely no will of threat when I tipped it.--[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 22:10, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I wonder if Hasbro and Takara have some exact standard by which they determine what's a toy and what's merchandise? Perhaps toys tend to belong to "lines" or assortments, whereas merchandise tends to be a one-off item? There is an assortment of Titaniums, there is certainly an assortment of actual main-line figures, but there is only one Optimash Prime? Certainly we cannot strictly use the amount of "one", but perhaps this is where we can be arbitrary, if not being wholly arbitrary? There are only two Softformers, only one Metalforce... I suppose Masterpiece now has enough items to be considered a line? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 22:17, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
:Nice idea, but the Heroes of Cybertron series goes against that logic.--[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 22:23, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
::We're currently counting Robot Heroes as Merchandise, and that line's set to get fairly extensive. SCF would also have to be switched to toys, when you really can't play with them. --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 22:25, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

==Wall Statues==
I went to my local Toys Be We today, looking for a Classics Bumblebee, and discovered three Classics Primes, a 20th DVD Anniversary Prime....and Megatron and Optimus Prime Wall Statues. [http://www.toysrus.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10051&productId=116021&N=27+&nvalue=27 Here] and [http://www.toysrus.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10051&productId=114687&N=27+&nvalue=27 here]. Pricy, but yummy-lookin'. I wish I had three hundred bucks to blow on all three...but I'll be content (for now) with my Classics Prime. If somebody wants to add the statues to the merchandise for Optimus and Megsy, go ahead. [[User:Kendrakirai|Kendrakirai]] 04:57, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

==Original G1 Toy==
We don't seem to have a picture of the original toy. I think given its importance to the line (and its many releases) It would be great to have a good collection of pictures of it emphasising its many features and variations (ie New Years Convoy, TF Collection version with axe). [[User:Azereal|Azereal]] 03:29, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
:When I wrote this article, I attempted to track down as many images as I could find for all the figures I listed and described. But G1 Prime was difficult, because I wasn't sure any fan photo would be more deserving than any other for it, and I couldn't find a stock Hasbro/Takara photo of the original team was of good visual quality. I think I'll leave if for you guys to figure out, now. - FFN in class<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Call of the Primitives

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==='Quality of animation'===
Is there any proof that another studio (not mentioned in this article, but generally attributed to TMS) animated this episode as opposed to Toei? All we really have going is that whomever animated this episode used completely different animation models with exaggerated porportions and styling. And is being drawn well an indication of good animation, because I don't really see much in terms of animation that's really all that. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:32, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
:Neither do I. I would argue that ''Dweller In The Depths'' or ''Chaos'' had much better animation than COTP, and looked much better throughout because everybody was actually drawn on-model instead of being covered with ridiculous giant spikes. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 18:48, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
::One thing that always amused me is [http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Predaking_primatives.jpg the oft-cited image of Predaking] from this episode that people use as an example of A. How awesome Predaking is in this episode (despite getting his ass kicked) and B. The animation is great. Thing is, that's a pretty bad drawing of Predaking. - FFN<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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Optimus Prime (Movie)

2007-08-13T04:41:22Z

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{{disambig3|Optimus Prime}}

:''Optimus Prime is the [[Autobot]] leader from the [[Movie (franchise)|Movie]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:MovieOptimusPrime_promorender2.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Freedom is the right of all sentient—oh, hell, you know the drill.]]

'''Optimus Prime''' is the leader of the Autobots. Once, long ago, he was co-ruler of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] together with his brother, Lord Protector [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], but Megatron grew greedy and attempted to claim the [[All Spark]] for himself. Optimus rose to stand against him. As obsessively as Megatron strives to achieve his objective, Optimus is equally as dedicated to stopping him. Lives must be kept free from the threat of Megatron's tyranny, at any cost.

==Fiction==
===''Prime Directives'' prequel comics===
[[Image:Optimusprimemovieprequel.jpg|left|thumb|200px|All Primes are required to have window boobs.]]

For generations, Optimus Prime ruled [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] side-by-side with [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]. The two personalities created a balance; Prime was fair while Megatron was firm. However, when Megatron revealed his intentions to steal the [[All Spark]] and use it for evil, selfish gain, Prime reacted accordingly. He built a militia from the civilians around him, but they faired terribly against Megatron's armies. Ultimately, Prime was forced to eject the All Spark into space to keep it from his nemesis.

Thus the focus of the war between Autobot and Decepticon shifted. The All Spark's ejection was only a stall. No longer did Prime have to keep Megatron from stealing the All Spark, instead Prime and his Autobots must hunt down the All Spark, wherever in the universe it landed, before Megatron could. {{storylink|Prime Directives}}

{{-}}

===Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday prequel novel===
Optimus Prime lead the serach for the All Spark in the ''[[Ark (Movie)|Ark]]'', a transport vessel. When they came across an abandoned solar system, they located [[Ghost One|a vessel]] of strangely Cybertronian design, and of Decepticon make. When the vessel fled to the surface of a planet, Prime dispatched Bumblebee to investigate, while he and the Autobots battled the Decepticons from the ''[[Nemesis (Movie)|Nemesis]]''. After losing touch with Bumblebee, Prime went down to locate him, where they were attacked by [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and the alien ship. They fell into a cavern network, where they were attacked by [[sandworm|indigenous worms]].

Coming across the alien vessel, Prime and Bumblebee communicated with its crew. Prime explained that they came in peace, "freedom is the right of all sentient beings", Starscream tricks everyone, and so on. However, the creatures, who called themselves "[[human]]s", explained that they held Megatron, who they called the Ice Man, on their homeworld, [[Earth]]. Realizing the destruction Megatron would wreak upon the humans if he escaped, and that the humans would be unable to effectively defend themselves, Prime vowed to see them return to their world to warn it. In the ensuing battle with the Decepticons, the humans saved Prime's life by attacking Starscream, who destroyed them. Prime was inspired by their courage and sacrifice, and resolved to locate Earth before the Decepticons did—and hopefully before Megatron came back online.

{{storylink|Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday}}

===''Transformers'' (2007) film===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English) [[Tesshō Genda]] (Japanese)

{{spoiler}}

[[Image:Movie_OptimusPrime_protoform.jpg|right|thumb|200px|There have been worse crashes]]

The leader of the Autobots, Optimus Prime came to Earth shortly after [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] sent his comrades a beacon. After scanning the form of an Earth truck and reconfiguring his body to transform into it, Prime, [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]], [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] met up with Bumblebee and his human friends, [[Sam Witwicky]] and [[Mikaela Banes]] in an alley. Transforming before the stunned humans, he introduced himself, his team, and why Sam was important to their search for the [[All Spark]].

Glasses that belonged to Sam's ancestor, [[Archibald Amundsen Witwicky|Captain Archibald Witwicky]], contain the location of the All Spark encoded across its lenses, so Optimus Prime ordered his troops to wait outside Sam's house while Sam and Mikaela searched inside for the glasses. Much to Sam's exasperation, Optimus Prime, in his impatience, clumsily ruined his parents' garden, and the Autobots' heavy footsteps convinced them there was an earthquake. Despite all this, their presence remained undetected until [[Sector Seven]] arrived (in a convoy of GMC Yukon's) and abducted Sam, Mikaela, and Sam's parents.

[[Image:Movie_PrimeSam_parentsfreakout.jpg|left|thumb|250px|At least Prime didn't throw a rock at your window.]]

Optimus Prime sent the Autobots in pursuit of the SUV that contained Sam, Mikaela, and Sector Seven's director, [[Reggie Simmons|Agent Simmons]]. Prime intercepted the vehicle carrying their young human friends, ripping the roof of the vehicle off, with the other Autobots disarming the agents, and Optimus attempted to interrogate Simmons. The agents lack of surprise at their appearance indicated that they had seen Cybertronians before, but Simmons refused to reveal any information. With a Sector Seven backup team enroute, Prime ordered the Autobots to scatter, while he took Sam and Mikaela. While hiding under a bridge, Mikaela and Sam slipped and fell off Prime's shoulder. Bumblebee managed to catch them before impact, but was captured, and Sam and Mikaela recaptured, by the organization after their retreat.

Optimus Prime, now in possession of the glasses which can tell him the location of the All Spark, regrettably leaves Bumblebee in Sector Seven's hands, knowing that if they went after him, they would have to use deadly force. After regrouping the next day, Prime used the glasses to locate the All Spark. Jazz raised objections to leaving Bumblebee behind, but Prime remained firm in his belief of not harming the humans. Ironhide seemed okay with using deadly force, stating the humans were too violent, but Prime remind him of the Cybertronians [[Cybertronian Civil Wars|own violent history]]. He also revealed to the Autobots his real plan for the All Spark: if they could not defeat the Decepticons, Prime intended to merge the Cube with his [[spark]]. Though this would destroy the All Spark, Ratchet cautioned Prime against this, as it would also kill him, but Prime had made his decision. The glasses placed the All Spark at [[Hoover Dam]] where, luckily, Bumblebee and the young humans were taken.

[[Image:Movie_OptimusPrime_citytransformjump.jpg|right|thumb|175px|And in the red corner, weighing in at...a lot, THE TRUCKER!]]

[[Image:Movie_OptimusPrime_highwaytransform1.jpg|left|thumb|175px|Optimus decides to walk to avoid rush hour traffic.]]

Optimus Prime's team met up with Sector Seven, Bumblebee, Sam, and Mikaela en route, who had planned to hide the All Spark in nearby [[Mission City]]. While on the highway, he was attacked by [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]], who managed to tackle Optimus and drag him over the edge of a freeway overpass. During the battle, Optimus struck the hate filled Transformer so hard his [[optic]] popped out. As the Decepticon swung his claw wildly, Optimus drew his sword from his right arm and sliced off one of Bonecrusher's arms, before brutally finishing off his enemy by driving the blade through Bonecrusher's neck, severing his head.

Optimus arrived at Mission City just in time to observe Megatron discarding the remains of [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]]. Millennia in the ice had done nothing to lessen Megatron's hatred of his brother, and he launch himself in jet mode at the Autobot leader. Optimus leapt and grabbed ahold of the wings, which was a really bad idea as Megatron drove himself and Prime through an office block. Prime managed to get a shot off at Megatron, but the Decepticon's cannon threw Prime across the street into another building, allowing Megatron to resume the hunt for Sam.

After saving Sam from falling off a building, Optimus told the boy that if he could not defeat Megatron, Sam must put the All Spark into his chest which would destroy it. As Sam made his escape, Optimus faced down Megatron and informed him that at the end of the day, "One shall stand, One shall fall". Unfortunately, Megatron, even after years of stasis, proved to be far too powerful for Prime to defeat alone. The unit led by Lennox and the Raptor squadron laid down suppressing fire as Megatron reached for the All Spark, until Optimus finally took him down by sweeping his legs. Still, Megatron continued, crawling toward the cube. Believing he had lost, Optimus implored to Sam to put the All Spark into his chest. Sam instead thrust it into Megatron's chest, eventually killing the Decepticon leader and destroying the All Spark. As Optimus watched his brother die, he regretfully said there was little other choice. He also told Sam he owed him a debt of gratitide for saving his life, and granted Bumblebee's request to allow him to remain with Sam Witwicky.

[[Image:Movie_Prime_Jazz_Ironhide_Ratchet_battleaftermath.jpg|thumb|right|250px|"We lost a great comrade today, we'll miss you, Blues." "His name was ''Jazz'', Prime." "Whatever."]]

Though Megatron and his Decepticons were defeated, the All Spark was destroyed, leaving the Autobots unable to restore Cybertron. The Autobots elected to remain on Earth, and Optimus Prime sent a message to any surviving Autobots in the Galaxy to come to their new home, their search finally having come to an end. As the other Autobots rested (and watched Sam and Mikaela makeout) Optimus Prime looked to the sky, hoping his message had been heard.

'''Note:''' ''The comic book adaptation depicts Prime also defeating [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] during the highway altercation with Bonecrusher.''

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===Transformers The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]]

Optimus Prime provides intelligence and missions to Bumblebee in his search for the All Spark. Eventually, the clues lead the Autobot to Sam Witwicky. After saving Sam from Barricade, Bumblebee finally completes preparations for the Autobots to arrive on Earth.

Once on Earth, and having informed the two teenagers of their mission, Prime and the Autobots are discovered by Sector 7. Optimus sends Jazz on a high-speed <strike>destruction</strike> distraction mission, then sends Ironhide to rescue Jazz from a double-threat posed by the government agents and various Decepticon scouts.

When Bumblebee is captured, Prime transforms and chases the chopper which from which the small Autobot is tied. After a lengthy chase, Prime manages to catch the net, only to be thrown off by another Cybertronian meteor. As Bumblebee is carried away, Optimus promises he will not fail him again. Jazz informs him that the meteor is not an Autobot. Prime confronts the new threat, who turns out to be the Decepticon triplechanger [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]]. The two battle it out across [[Tranquility]] before Optimus finally destroys him. But not without overhearing [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]'s transmission revealing the location of the All Spark.

Optimus then returned to an intel role as he guided Bumblebee in his mission to retrieve the All Spark from Hoover dam. Unfortunately, the Decepticons manage to free Megatron, leading to the final battle in Mission City.

As the Autobots battle it out with the Decepticons to protect Sam and the All Spark, things seem to take a turn for the worst as Megatron finally arrives. But before he can claim the cube, Optimus attacks him.

The two battle it out until Megatron is finally on the ground, seemingly devoid of life. Optimus then kneels to take the All Spark from Sam. Megatron however awakens, leaping at Optimus with his chain-flail out. Optimus grips the chain, pulling Megatron in closer, and with the All Spark clutched in his fist, delivers a punch through Megatron's spark. As Megatron dies, Optimus reflects on the losses and rewards of this battle, as the Autobots have a new home. Optimus plans to guard the humans in secret, "For freedom is the right of all sentient beings."

Note: If played in Decepticon mode, Optimus is beaten to the ground, and as he crawls for the All Spark, Megatron smashes his head with his flail before using the cube to destroy humanity.

==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
*'''Protoform Optimus Prime''' (Deluxe, 2007)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''MA-05'''

[[Image:Movie_ProtoformOptimusPrime_toy.jpg|left|300px|thumb|Spaaaaaaace speeeeeerrrrm!]]

:Based upon the 'Protoform' (Cybertronian) appearances of the Transformers in the Movie, Protoform Optimus Prime transforms into his 'Entry' mode cybertronic comet thing. This mode somewhat resembles a cybertronic truck, with false wheels sculpted onto the sides, and Optimus Prime's trademark windows in front. A flame decoration piece fits to the back of the 'vehicle', creating the illusion of a flaming comet's tail. The bottom of the vehicle has small wheels to roll the toy across smooth surfaces. Oddly, it has NO [[automorph]] gimmick at all, a feature most main-line figures have.

:In robot mode he resembles previous Optimus characters - his angular chest windows are reminiscent of ''[[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]], while his near animalistic limbs and color scheme are evocative of ''[[Beast Wars]]'' [[Optimus Primal]]. He has excellent articulation due to his many ball joints, and is armed with a rifle. The flame attachment can fit onto the end of the (non-firing) gun barrel.

:Some packaging variants of this figure (perhaps a Wal-Mart exclusive) included a free movie poster depicting a Cybertronian eye overlooking Earth. While an added sticker to the outer plastic bubble says "Exclusive movie poster!", it is more of a preview of upcoming figures.

*'''Optimus Prime''' (Leader, 2007)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''MA-01'''

[[Image:MovieLeader_OptimusPrime_toy.jpg|right|thumb|350px| Y'think Prime got a makeover? We have it on good authority that Movie [[Roller]] is a kicked-out low-rider with a jammin' sound system and neon-purple undercarriage lighting. ]]

: The largest ''Movie'' Optimus Prime toy, Leader Class Optimus Prime features the most accurate representation yet of the CGI designs' complex transformation sequence, the only difference being the arms who are placed behind the cab while they constitute the hood in the CGI model. He transforms into a heavily-customized [http://www.peterbilt.com/index_gal_mod_desc.asp?model=model379 Peterbilt 379] conventional extended-hood truck, and unusually for a mainline figure, he has rubber tires on all his wheels. His Ion Blaster weapon is stored in the rear of the truck's bunk, exposed like an engine block. Though Optimus has no trailer, he has hole where the fifth wheel (known among fans as a 'hitch') is sculpted in the rear of the truck, should owners find a suitable trailer to use. Due to [[For safety reasons|safety reasons]], the tips of his long smokestacks are made of a soft, flexible material. A switch on top of the cab roof activates horn sounds and window lights.

: Featuring a complex transformation, essentially the front and back ends of the truck fold and converge to become Optimus Prime's legs, as much of the truck rear is connected to the robot thighs via a series of folding panels. The rear wheel cowlings feature a hinge joint in the middle of them so they do not impede his knee articulation. The rear cabin of the cab, directly connected to the smokestacks, rotate and connect to his torso and unfold into his arms. As with most mainline Movie toys, Optimus Prime features [[Automorph]] gimmicks, and due to his pricepoint has three of them. Firstly, during initial transformation, rotating his front fenders to become his heels flips the top parts of the grill to become his toes. Secondly, sliding out the the double-barrel cannon in his right forearm flips out his spring-loaded Ion Blaster, which lands into place for his right hand. (The Ion Blaster can actually be popped off his forearm fairly easily, held in place by a simple clip.) Optimus' final Automorph, located in his torso, is activated by flipping the silver lever on his stomach activating a series of spring-loaded actions where they push the truck windows part, raises the lever between them and allows the head to spring up from the chest cavity. At this point yellow LEDs light up the chest windows and Optimus Prime's eyes, accompanied by a 'powering up' sound effect.

: Optimus Prime has a wide range of articulation for a relatively bulky figure. He has ratcheting joints in his shoulders, elbows, hips and knees, with swivel joints and ball joints supporting them in his biceps, lower knee joints and ankles. Again, unusually for a mainline figure, especially at the Leader pricepoint, his hands have individually articulated fingers and thumbs.

*'''Optimus Prime''' (Legends, 2007)

[[Image:Movie_Legends_Prime_toy.jpg|thumb|left|Shortening the smokestacks is good, it makes the toy safer, but removing ONE and keeping the other? Crazy.]]

: Legends class Optimus Prime is an ''extremely'' simplified toy of the extremely complex movie design. As such, he features numerous unavoidable inaccuracies, such as not transforming or even looking very much like the original design or the larger toy versions in robot mode. However, proportionally Legends class Optimus Prime is not far off from the real truck and the Leader class toy's vehicle mode, aside from missing a smokestack on the driver's side. he is articulated at the shoulders and upper legs via ball-joints.

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*'''Robo-Vision Optimus Prime''' (Voyager, 2007)

[[Image:Movie_Robovision_OptimusPrime_toy.jpg|thumb|right|200px|I'd hate to see what those smokestacks looked like BEFORE Hasbro shortened them.]]

: A Target-[[exclusive]] repaint of the Voyager class Optimus Prime (see below), this limited edition version boasts a "Supermetal finish", resulting in silver metallic paint covering much of his paintable gray/silver plastic, a much higher contrast in his red and blue plastic colors and improved 'flame' paint decorations.

: Unusually for the smaller Voyager-class of toys, [[Robo-Vision]] Optimus Prime comes packed in robot mode in a special hexagonal column box with many windows, similar to the original packaging for ''20th Anniversary'' Optimus Prime. The package also includes a [[Robo-Vision Decoder]]. Strangely, this Target exclusive preceded the release of the regular Voyager by a large margin, coming out on June 2, 2007 with the initial wave of movie toys.

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* '''Power Hook Optimus Prime''' (Fast Action Battler, 2007)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''QC-01'''

[[Image:Movie_FAB_OptimusPrime_toy.jpg|thumb|left|Ironically NOT a Burger King toy.]]

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* '''Leader for the Ages''' (Figure two-pack, 2007)

[[Image:Movie_LeaderfortheAges_2pack.jpg|thumb|right|150px|The more things change, the more they, uh, get bigger guns.]]

: This Wal-Mart [[exclusive]] two-pack contains the ''Fast Action Battler'' Power Hook Optimus Prime toy, designated "2007 Optimus Prime", and the ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] toy from ''The Ultimate Battle'' DVD two-pack. Both toys are identical to their normal individual releases.

: For some reason the ''Classics'' Optimus toy is designated "1984 Optimus Prime" on the packaging, even though it was released in 2006... but, well, he ''looks'' like Prime from '84, so hey, what the hell.

*'''Optimus Prime''' (Cyber Stompin' Robot, 2007)

[[Image:Movie_Cyberstompin_Prime_toy.jpg|thumb|left|120px|Rescue Heroes!]]

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*'''Optimus Prime''' (cake topper, 2007)

: Yes, a cake topper. This toy was only available by purchasing a ''Transformers''-brand cake (or set of 24 cupcakes) with delicious blue-and-red flame-pattern frosting. The toy transforms from semi cab to robot.

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*'''Optimus Prime''' (Voyager, 2007)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''MA-13'''

[[Image:Movie_Voyager_OptimusPrime_toy.jpg|thumb|left|250px|The last one of you out of here gets a...gets a lead salad!]]

:The mid-range Voyager class ''Movie'' Optimus Prime toy transforms into an amalgamation of the Kenworth W900 and the Peterbilt 379, making this toy fairly inaccurate to the actual vehicle Optimus Prime turned into. Because of the smaller size and lessened complexity, the Voyager class Optimus Prime features a significantly different transformation sequence compared to the Leader class toy, and indeed, the actual CGI design. However, as the actual truck cabin no longer forms his chest, the cabin now features an small interior with opening doors and a non-removable cowboy-hat-bedecked driver figurine that flips out of the seat when the driver's side door is shut.

: In robot mode, Voyager class Optimus Prime is proportionally more accurate to his CGI design than the leader class toy and has a more accurate headsculpt, but due to the aforementioned lessened complexity significant sacrifices had to be made, such as "cheats" to the transformation sequence to achieve this and thus he is overall less accurate than he initially appears. In addition to previously mentioned changes, he carries much of the truck's front hood, grill and fenders on his back like a backpack. However, he maintains a superb level of articulation and posability.

: Optimus Prime is armed with two large rifles formed out of a combination of both smokestacks and fuel tanks. These rifles peg into lower arms with grips for his open hands. The under-slung fuel tanks can fire spring-loaded projectiles. In vehicle mode, both smokestack rifles can be deployed as twin cannons, and this mechanism can also be used to store the rifles and deploy them as shoulder guns in robot mode.

*'''Allspark Legends''' (Multi-pack, 2007)

[[Image:Movie_Allspark_Legends_pack.jpg|thumb|right|120px|Get ready for the safety recall folks.]]

: A Toys R Us exclusive, this six-pack of Legends class figures contains unmodified toys of Optimus Prime, [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]], [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]].

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*'''Nightwatch Optimus Prime''' (Leader, 2007)

: As part of the "[[AllSpark Power]]" second half of the Movie line, Nightwatch Optimus Prime is an extensive redeco of the previously released Leader-class Optimus Prime, replacing most of his red and blue with different shades of blue and black. In fact, he resembles the original [[Diaclone]] Powered Convoy colourscheme of ''Generation 1'' [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus's]] truck cab. The previously blue and red flames have been replaced with silver flames, as has various other decos, replaced by copper.

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*'''Optimus Prime''' (Robot Replica, 2007)

: As part of the [[Robot Replicas]] line, this version of Optimus is a non-transforming action figure that utilizes [[Revoltech]]-style jointing. The sculpt hews much closer to the movie CGI model than is possible with the full transforming toys, plus the universal jointing of the line allows for his forearm to be replaced with his hand-cannon... or bits from other Robot Replicas.

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*'''First Strike Optimus Prime''' (Voyager, 2007)

:At long last, Optimus Prime will finally be redecoed into G1 Colors like some of [[Ratchet (Movie) | his]] [[Jazz (Movie) | comrades]]. That means the truck will have mostly red on it, and no flames, making what some [[Fans]] consider a "perfect Prime"...except he uses the Voyager mold. Nobody's perfect.

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===Titanium Series===
*'''Optimus Prime''' (3" Robot Masters, 2007)

[[Image:Movie_TitaniumRM_Prime.jpg|thumb|right|120px|"Groovy!"]]

: Partially constructed of die-cast metal, this small three inch figurine of Optimus Prime has a CGI-accurate sculpt compared to the larger toys, owing to the fact it does not need to transform at all. He is sculpted with his Ion Blaster in his right fist, and is articulated at the neck, shoulders and waist. He comes with a small movie-style Autobot sigil display stand.

*'''Protoform Optimus Prime''' (3" Robot Masters, 2007)

*'''Optimus Prime''' (vehicle mode) (3" Robot Masters, 2007)

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*'''Infared Optimus Prime''' (?, 2007)

:Not much is known about this figurine. Judging by its name, it may exist outside of the normal visible color spectrum.

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===Micro IR Transformers Cars===
*'''Optimus Prime''' (2007)

[[Image:Movie_OptimusPrime_MicroIR.jpg|thumb|right|120px|]]

: Made under license by [[Radio Shack]]. Three-function infrared remote, in Optimus Prime's signature colors, gives you control of the car with forward and reverse turn movement. More than just a car styled after the Movie character, the car also transforms to robot mode. The top of the gun-shaped IR remote's barrel serves as a display stand.

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==Merchandise==

===Transformers (2007)===
*'''Optimus Prime Voice Changer''' (2007)

[[Image:MoviePrime_Voicechanger_helmet.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Hardly ''anyone'' was wearing these damn things at [[BotCon 2007]].]]

:A highly CG-accurate sculpt of Optimus Prime's head with a built in voice-changer. It also has several sound effects and quotes from the movie. The voice-changer has three settings, giving more accurate alteration of the user's voice (though this is still debatable; most voice changing technology is pretty crummy, at least in toys). Much like the Ultimate Bumblebee figure, this toy will hate your wallet too. While it only costs 30 bucks, if it's anything like another Hasbro voice changer, it will suck batteries up like they were [[Energon Cube|some kind of square candy holder.]]

: There are two versions of the voice changer helmet with two different pre-recorded voices. An earlier release features a voice similar to [[Garry Chalk]], while the later release features the voice of [[Peter Cullen]]. The latter version has modified packaging under the 'Try Me!' blurb, stating it has 'Real Movie Voice!', though the updated version has also appeared in the original packaging without the 'Real Movie Voice!' notice.

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*'''Optimus Prime Battle Rig Blaster''' (2007)

[[Image:MoviePrime_BattleRigBlaster.jpg|thumb|right|Nor these!]]

:The Optimus Prime Battle Rig Blaster transforms from a superdeformed amalgamation of his ''Movie'' truck and G1 Optimus Prime's truck (indeed pulling G1 Prime's trailer) to robotic forearm and hand with a built in Nerf style gun. By simply placing your hand inside the back of the trailer (I need an adult!) and pulling back on the front of the truck, the gun transforms and folds back into a weapon. It uses Nerf N-Strike size darts.

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*'''Optimus Prime Blaster''' (2007)

[[Image:Movie_OptimusPrime_RPBlaster.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Pew, Pew]]

: An extensive [[redeco]] of the ''[[Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'' [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] role-play Blaster, this toy "transforms" basically by extending. It fires suction-cup-tipped Nerf darts and is a Wal*mart exclusive.

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*'''Transformers Electronic Hand Held Game''' (2007)

[[Image:Movie_TFHandHeldGame.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Behold, the Autobot Gameboy of Leadership!]]

:This LCD game features 10 levels and a design based on Optimus Prime.

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===ZipZaps® Micro RC===
*'''Optimus Prime''' (2007)
:''Model Number'': '''6000182'''

[[Image:Movie_OptimusPrime_ZipZaps.jpg|thumb|left|120px|]]

: Optimus Prime is one of the first Transformers characters licensed by [[Radio Shack]] for their ZipZaps line of pocket-size radio control cars. As a ZipZap, Optimus can be customized, trimmed, and tuned with any other accessories available for the brand. He has working headlights and requires four "AAA" batteries for the charger.

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===Battling Robots Bubble Bath===
*'''Optimus Prime''' (2007)

[[Image:optimus_prime_bubblebath.jpg|thumb|right|120px|]]

:Optimus Prime's torso attaches to the bottle of bubble bath. His elbows bend, and his arms have a punching gimmick, to allow him to battle evil. Pushing a lever on either side makes the respective fist punch forward. He's removable, though not as easily held without the bottle below his waist.

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==Trivia==
* [[Takaratomy]] officially recognizes Optimus Prime's vehicle mode as a [http://www.kenworth.com/2100_vir_w900.asp Kenworth W900 truck], even though the vehicle used for filming was a modified [http://www.peterbilt.com/index_gal_mod_desc.asp?model=model379 Peterbilt 379], a different model from a different company.

* As part of the hype buildup to the movie's release, Optimus Prime made a brief cameo at the 2007 MTV Movie Awards, interacting with host Sarah Silverman. The scene spliced Silverman into pre-existing movie footage, but featured new dialogue recorded for the event by Peter Cullen. Prime heavily hinted that he wanted to present an award, but was rejected.

* According to the free trading cards from the Boston Globe, Optimus is 28 feet tall, weighs 4.3 metric tons, and his primary weapon is an ion blaster. (Considering Optimus's height however, this weight would seem implausible)

* According to a tie-in advertisement for [[Burger King]], Prime likes his whoppers with no onions, no cheese, and with extra pickles on the side. However, due to a cruel twist of fate, he can never enjoy the sweet taste of beefy victory.

* The Optimus Prime computer generated model consisted of 10,108 individual parts, 1,830,898 polygons, 27,744 rig nodes, and 2336 texture maps. The volume of all pieces combined came to 5445 cubic feet.<ref>Robertson, Barbara (2007). Heavy Metal. ''Computer Graphics, 30''(7), 12-17.</ref>

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==References==

<references />

[[Category: Autobot leaders]]
[[Category: Exclusives]]
[[Category: Legends of Cybertron]]
[[Category: Movie characters]]
[[Category: Rulers of Cybertron]]
[[Category: Siblings]]
[[Category: Target exclusives]]
[[Category: Titanium Series]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Jeff Mann

2007-08-13T04:38:41Z

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So what category should dudes like this go under? Should we toss him into Designers with all of the Hasbro/Takara folk, or should we create a new hierarchy for some of this film stuff? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:53, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:Tossing him in with the Hasbro/Takara design crew with the Movie category tacked on ought to do it.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 16:23, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

==Authenticity==
Is that an authentic quote from him? 03:41, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, given it's from the article linked at the bottom of his page. -FFN<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Silver Chromedome Trophy

2007-08-13T04:33:53Z

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The '''Silver Chromedome Trophy''' was a silver-colored chrome trophy in the likeness of [[Chromedome]], which was given as an award to distinguished [[Takara]] employees in the late 1980s, in conjunction with the somewhat better-known [[Gold Convoy Trophy]].

== External links ==

*[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18341 A definitive history of the Gold Convoy Trophy at the Allspark.com]

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Gold Convoy Trophy

2007-08-13T04:32:20Z

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The '''Gold Convoy Trophy''' was a gold-colored chrome trophy in the likeness of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|G1 Optimus Prime]], which was given as an award to distinguished [[Takara]] employees in the late 1980s. Due to their sheer rarity, these trophies have become a "Holy Grail" among collectors, particularly Optimus Prime [[completist]]s.

== See also ==
*[[Silver Chromedome Trophy]]

== External links ==

[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18341 A definitive history of the Gold Convoy Trophy at the Allspark.com]

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Ultra Magnus (G1)

2007-08-08T09:18:09Z

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{{disambig3|Ultra Magnus}}

:''Ultra Magnus is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.''

[[Image:Ultramagnusg1.jpg|250px|right|thumb|He can't deal with you right now!]]

'''Ultra Magnus''' feels he is a soldier and nothing more. He very much prefers taking orders to giving them, and even avoids opportunities for higher responsibility. But when he is forced into those opportunities, he betrays his real talent for the job. He's strong, resolute, dependable, selfless, and courageous. Sadly, Ultra Magnus is the only Autobot who doesn't realize this.

Believing he is nothing but a soldier, Ultra Magnus is perfectly willing to sacrifice himself for the greater good if need be. He knows he's more powerful than the average Autobot, and will throw himself at larger threats accordingly. There is a special enmity between him and [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] for this reason, for Galvatron may be the most deadly foe of all. (Also, Galvatron, given his mental state, probably doesn't approve of people he's had blown up getting back up afterward. This can be seen as a sore point for Magnus, too.)

He is possibly [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s brother.

:''Italian name'': '''Convoy'''<br>
:''French-Canadian name'': '''Ultramag'''

==Fiction==
===Animated continuity===
Voice actors: [[Robert Stack]] → [[Jack Angel]] (US); [[Show Hayami]] (Japan)

By 2005, Ultra Magnus was the full-fledged City Commander for [[Autobot City]]. Autobot City was under his authority when Megatron and the Decepticons waged their full-scale attack. Ultra Magnus ordered [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] to transform it to battle-mode, but it only held the Decepticons off for so long. In the fight, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] was mortally wounded and passed the [[Matrix]] of Leadership on to Ultra Magnus, making Magnus the new Supreme Commander of the Autobots.

Autobot City was quickly attacked a second time by [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], the upgraded version of [[Megatron (G1)| Megatron]]. Ultra Magnus lured him away on his shuttle, but was eventually shot-down onto the [[Junkion (planet)|Planet of Junk]]. Galvatron tracked him there and Ultra Magnus managed to draw him away from the other Autobots to face the enemy alone. Magnus attempted to open the Matrix, but the Matrix would not open, and Ultra Magnus was blown to pieces. Galvatron took the Matrix, intending to use it to destroy [[Unicron]].

After the Autobots befriended the [[Junkion]]s, they used their expertise to rebuild Ultra Magnus. Magnus joined the other Autobots in the battle with Unicron on [[Cybertron]] and helped drive the last of the Decepticons from their home planet. {{Storylink|The Transformers: The Movie (1986)}}

In 2006 (or 2010, if you're Japanese), Ultra Magnus ceased his role as a City Commander and became head-adviser to [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]], the new Supreme Commander of the Autobots and chosen one of the Matrix. At various times he was [[The Killing Jar|sucked into a black hole]], [[Only Human|turned into a synthetic human]] and [[Surprise Party|had a birthday party]].

When the [[Hate Plague]] possessed all of Earth and Cybertron, Ultra Magnus singled Rodimus Prime out of all the other Autobots and focused all his rage on him, vowing to track him wherever he went. Ultra Magnus was eventually cured of the Hate Plague when Optimus Prime came back from the dead (again). {{Storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime}}

Some time later, Ultra Magnus helped defend Autobot City from a massive Decepticon assault, which was actually a diversion for the theft of the key to the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]]. Subsequent to the battle and discovery of the theft, Magnus accompanied Optimus Prime on a shuttle to Cybertron. After Prime got the answers he needed from [[Vector Sigma]], he decided to go to [[Nebulos]] and left Ultra Magnus in charge of Cybertron. {{Storylink|The Rebirth, Part 1}}

Ultra Magnus' tenure didn't go very well, as the selfsame massive Decepticon assault force was attacking the planet. Nonetheless, he and the [[Protectobot]]s struck at Galvatron, and may well have done him in if [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s reinforcements hadn't arrived. Magnus then ignominiously had his [[power pack]] torn out and slowly began to die from lack of energon. Still, he was able to relay Galvatron's crazed scheme to Optimus Prime and the Autobot [[Headmaster]]s before blacking out.

When Ultra Magnus next awoke, the Golden Age of Cybertron had come anew, and the Decepticons were seemingly defeated once and for all. {{Storylink|The Rebirth, Part 3}}

====Japanese animated continuity====

=====''Scramble City'' OVA=====
Voice actor: [[Banjō Ginga]] (Japan)

''(Note: Scramble City takes place before the events of [[The Transformers: The Movie (1986)|Transformers the Movie]].)''

Ultra Magnus first came to Earth around the year 1986 to head-up the [[Scramble City]] (AKA [[Autobot City]]) project. Under his supervision, [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] was built. Unfortunately, Metroplex was discovered by the spy [[Ratbat]] under Ultra Magnus' watch, who leaked the location back to Megatron.

=====''The Headmasters''=====
Voice actor: [[Hōchū Ōtsuka|Yoshitada Ōtsuka]] (Japan)

Ultra Magnus continued his work as Commander of Autobot City on Earth and was instrumental in several victories over the Decepticons. Because of this, [[Sixshot (G1)|Sixshot]] singled him out for assasination. Ultra Magnus and Sixshot engaged in a one-on-one duel outside Autobot City, and Ultra Magnus was completely wrecked by Sixshot's six transformations. He was finally done in by Sixshot's mysterious 7th transformation, "Wingwolf". After his death, Ultra Magnus was placed in a coffin and buried on Earth, the planet he loved so dearly.

====Japanese manga====
=====Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformer=====

''(The "Fight! Super Robot Life Transformer" manga takes place before the events of Transformers the Movie and around the events of Scramble City)''

Ultra Magnus first appeared to deliver Optimus Prime his trailer, containing a special cannon upgrade, the "Scramble Power Buster". They engage the Decepticons in battle and Ultra Magnus and Optimus Prime team-up to defeat the villains with their "Convoy Magnus Double Cross Kick".

Ultra Magnus also came up with the idea for the global underground transportation system, the [[Autobot Road]].

''(The manga specifically notes that Optimus Prime looks upon Ultra Magnus as his "Kid Brother". Although the manga is a suppliment to the TV series, this family-dynamic between the two characters was never used in the cartoon.)''

=====The Transformer=====

=====Transformer: Big War=====

====''Kiss Players'' continuity====

When [[Rodimus Prime]]'s defeat of [[Galvatron]] in 2005 led to the catastrophic destruction of [[Tokyo]], the new Autobot leader was consumed by guilt. He passed on the [[Matrix]] to Ultra Magnus in order to revert to [[Hot Rod]] and return to [[Earth]].

===Ladybird books continuity===
Ultra Magnus came from Cybertron to take over leadership of the Autobots after Optimus Prime disappeared. He is opposed by [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] as Decpticon leader and this is presented as a prolonged status quo rather than the rather brief version of this scenario presented in the animated continuity. Furthermore [[Spike Witwicky]] appears to still be a teenager at this point, making a setting date of 2005 unlikely.
Ultra Magnus functioning as Prime's successor for some time rather than being immediately replaced by [[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]] is presented in this and other [[Micro-continuity|micro-continuities]] based on the action figure line rather than the film.

===Marvel Comics UK continuity===
:''('''Note''': Ultra Magnus appeared only in the Marvel UK books.)''

The remaining Autobot elders spent years designing Ultra Magnus, a leader to lift the resistance out of a deep darkness. He was finally given life in or shortly before 1986<ref>Ultra Magnus profile in Marvel UK #83</ref> for Operation Volcano. His role was to act as the crucial back-up needed for the [[Wreckers]] to successfully destroy their Decepticon targets and then escape in one piece. A serious complication arose when the Matrix Flame, the sacred and eternal blaze linked directly to the [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]] itself, suddenly extinguished. Fearing that something catastrophic had occurred on Earth to the Matrix and its bearer, Optimus Prime, Emirate Xaaron made the decision to send Ultra Magnus to that planet to investigate, even though Operation Volcano was unstoppably set to begin in ten cycles. Magnus travelled to Earth by way of [[Space Bridge]], and found the Ark's crew engaged in a deadly conflict with three new, yet unspeakably powerful, Decepticon warriors just as their leaders Optimus Prime, [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] vanished before their optic sensors. Initially concerned only with his investigation of Prime's sudden disappearance, Ultra Magnus ignored the plight of his fellow Autobots until he learned the two situations were linked; [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] and his lieutenants were time-travelers from 2006, having employed a mass-substitution mechanism that sent the three Autobots into limbo in order to accommodate their presence at this point in the timeline. This connection was revealed to him by three Autobots from 2006, who had traveled back in time themselves in order to stop Galvatron. They had a plan; they had the means; all they needed was for Ultra Magnus to keep him busy for, oh...an hour or two.

Easier said than done.

Magnus's battle with Galvatron carried them out of the isolated wilderness and onto a human freeway system. It ended when Ultra Magnus threw a tanker truck full of fuel into the path of Galvatron's particle cannon. Galvatron walked away from the blast -- Magnus didn't. Still, the future Autobots succeeded in tricking Galvatron into returning to the future with his plan incomplete, and the timeline more-or-less preserved. Unfortunately, Magnus was out of time: Operation Volcano proceeded without him, with disastrous results. Only one Decepticon was taken out, and the Wreckers' leader Impactor was killed protecting Xaaron. {{Storylink|Target 2006}}

Ultra Magnus would not meet his counterpart, Optimus Prime, until Prime was inadvertently transported back to Cybertron in battle with Megatron. Hooking up with [[Straxus|Lord Straxus]] at [[Polyhex]], [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] quickly disseminated false information about a new Decepticon madeover to look exactly like Optimus Prime, planning to infiltrate the Autobot forces. Having temporarily assumed control of the Wreckers until their new leader, [[Springer]], was ready for command, Ultra Magnus led them in hunting down the "imposter". This Prime's behavior led Magnus to be suspicious of his information and, after summoning Emirate Xaaron, confirmed his suspicions and welcomed the true Optimus Prime back to Cybertron. Prime wasted no time leading Magnus and the others on a series of successful raids and strike missions against Decepticon-controlled territory. When Optimus decided to return home to Earth, however, Ultra Magnus was caught up in the space bridge's energy discharge as well, arriving on Earth but some considerable distance away from where Prime materialized. Having been frustrated ever since Impactor's death, Magnus welcomed the "vacation" this trip to Earth would provide him, as he took his time trying to track down the Ark's location.

For months, Ultra Magnus enjoyed a peaceful life in the American forests and wilderness, alone with his thoughts. A sudden seismic disturbance brought him back to reality, though, and into contact with three human females whose vehicle had been overturned by the tremor. One in particular, Cindy, took quite a liking to Magnus. As they travelled together to explore a nearby volcano and its connection to the tremors, Magnus was forced back into combat thanks to the arrival of his old sparring partner, the future Decepticon known as Galvatron. Galvatron had constructed a magma siphon atop the volcano's peak, and planned to convert the raw power of a volcanic eruption into enough energy to transform him into a god. Ultra Magnus teamed up with several Autobots from the future, who were trying to bring Galvatron back with them to face justice. Once again, Magnus was used as a "distraction" (read: living punching bag) while the future Autobots set up their plan to override Galvatron's time-jump mechanism and send them all back where they came from. Despite Ultra Magnus successfully getting the slag beat out of him, the override proved unsuccessful, sending only the Autobots back to 2007 and leaving Magnus virtually alone to deal with the fighting-mad Galvatron. Barely managing to rally his courage, Ultra Magnus threw himself into combat with Galvatron one more time, keeping him busy until the volcano exploded, destroying the power siphon and encasing both warriors in molten lava.

Several months later, Ultra Magnus was dug out of the volcano by the [[Sparkabot|Sparkler Mini-Bots]]. They had been sent to Earth by Springer to monitor the volcano in case Galvatron ever got free. When Galvatron DID free himself several days earlier, though, they found themselves hopelessly outmatched, and hoped Magnus would have better luck. Sadly, the severe beatings Galvatron had routinely handed out to Ultra Magnus, combined with the final excrutiating submergence in molten lava, had nearly unhinged the Autobot's mind, leaving him with a pathological fear of his tormentor. Confronted with Galvatron, Magnus would probably have gone fetal if that pose had any meaning for his people. As the Sparklers heroically tried to stand up to Galvatron anyway, Ultra Magnus saw his rescuers in grave danger and finally managed to push his fear aside and reclaim enough confidence to batter the Decepticon into a temporary retreat. {{Storylink|Salvage!}}

Having renewed his fighting spirit, Ultra Magnus arranged to return to Cybertron with his companions in order to report on Galvatron's activities and hopefully gather the Wreckers for a counter-offensive. Instead, they found the Autobot base in Kalis full of battle signs, and the entire surrounding city-state a virtual "ghost-town". After confronting a legion of robot zombies, the Autobots eventually learned that a crazed scientist named [[Flame (UK comic)|Flame]] was trying to re-engineer the entire planet as a giant spacecraft, setting off an unstable fusion reactor beneath the planet's surface as a power source. With the help of the Wreckers and the Decepticons [[Flywheels]] and [[Trypticon]], Ultra Magnus and his team managed to put an end to Flame's maniacal scheme.

Ultra Magnus and the Wreckers then began preparations to return to Earth and confront the threat of Galvatron, finally, once and for all, and then...*poof*. The Wreckers went to Earth alone, and Ultra Magnus was never seen nor heard from again.

===Blackthorne Transformers In 3-D continuity===

===PD Type mini-comics===

At one point, the [[Blackball]] was left in the safekeeping of Ultra Magnus. Galvatron, catching Magnus by surprise, managed to blow him up with a powerful energy blast from his fusion cannon. Recovering the Blackball, Galvatron began to gloat about his victory. That's when Magnus' body hurled his head at Galvatron like a bowling ball, causing the [[Emperor of Destruction]] to fall over like a set of pins and drop the Blackball. That's ''using your head'', Magnus! *sigh*

===Dreamwave comics continuity===

[[Image:Magnuslongshot.jpg|left|thumb|250px|And then Takara saw this and were all like, "Oh, crap, that's right, we can do redecos, can't we?"]]

After Prime's and Megatron disappeared during the first space bridge incident {{storylink|The Dark Ages, Part 1}}, Ultra Magnus retreated from prominence in the Autobot army. However he was eventually able to overcome his own fear and take a role of leadership. Together with [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], he was on the verge of ending the war when Megatron arrived and enslaved the plane with the [[Aerospace Extermination Squadron]]. Magnus was put to work in a slave mines. {{storylink|The War Within: The Age of Wrath}}

Years later, Ultra Magnus and Shockwave worked together to replenish their armies in the [[Little Iacon]] incident. Many of the [[Micromasters]] created resented Ultra Magnus for bringing him into their war. {{storylink|Micromasters (comic)}}

After [[Great Shutdown]], [[Ultra Magnus]] was reactivated and took the role of security officer under [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave's]] rule, even if he was dissatisfied working under a leader who clearly held his own agenda. After many, many delays, Ultra Magnus confronted Shockwave about the mastermind's plans - but Magnus was silenced by gun fire. He survived by discarding his armor. {{storylink|War and Peace}}

After Shockwave had been removed from power, Ultra Magnus was content to oversee operations on Cybertron while Prime spent ten issues getting repaired.

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===IDW comics continuity===
{{spoiler}}
Ultra Magnus' concept has been tweaked somewhat to fit within Simon Furman's Cold War-influenced G1 reboot continuity; although still a soldier, Magnus' role is similar to that of an Interpol officer. Specifically, he is an agent of the Tyrest Accord. Although never detailed, this Accord seems to be part of a greater Code of Interplanetary Conflict, some form of treaty between Autobots, Decepticons and other alien races. As an enforcer of the Accord, Magnus hunts down any Transformers, Autobots or Decepticons alike, who illegally sell or distribute Cybertronian technology, handing them over to their superiors for prosecution.

One such violation saw Magnus pursue [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] to the planet Zull. After arresting the Combaticon, Magnus reluctantly released Swindle in exchange for the current whereabouts of an even greater offender: [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]. Magnus has a personal grudge against Scorponok, who is the Autobot's polar opposite; while Magnus sets great stock in rules, Scorponik flouts them. Magnus follows Swindle's lead to the planet [[Nebulos]], but although he disrupts Scorponok's operations, the Decepticon is able to escape.

Later on, Magnus arrests Swindle for yet anohter violation, and once again, Swindle offers a deal, leaving Magnus to wonder whether he'll start breaking the rules just to finally catch Scorponok...

==Notes==

*It has been speculated by some fans that, in animated continuity, Ultra Magnus may have been created from Orion Pax's friend [[Dion]], the same way and at the same time Prime and [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]] were rebuilt by [[Alpha Trion]].
:''For further elaboration, see [[Dion#Who_is_Dion.3F|Who is Dion?]].''

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Ultra Magnus''' (1986, 2000, 2002)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-69'''
[[Image:Ultramagnusg1toy.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Honkimus Prime.]]

: Ultra Magnus is a [[redeco]] of the [[Diaclone]] Powered Convoy toy, which itself was a redecoed Battle Convoy (pre-TF [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]) with a new trailer that combined with the cab robot to form a super robot. Whereas the original Japanese use was an upgrade to Convoy, Hasbro released him as a separate character and both the comic and the cartoon ignored the cab robot in favor of the super robot.

:Ultra Magnus transforms into a white Freightliner COE with a blue and red car-carrier trailer. He comes with a rifle that has two pegs that will fit into either the fist of the cab robot or fist of the super robot, and he also comes with two missile launchers that can plug into either the front of the trailer or the shoulders of the super robot. Additional accessories include the cab robot's fists, the super robot's fists, the super robot head, the super robot chestplate, and two crotchplates/trailer hitches.

:The original American toy was released in at least two versions -- one with rubber tires and paint on both heads, and a second with plastic tires and no paint on either head.

:Ultra Magnus was first reissued in Japan in 2000 with little to no changes. Two years later, Ultra Magnus was reissued as a Toys "R" Us exlusive in the United States in the first wave of the [[Commemorative Series]]; the American reissue's missiles were elongated to pass modern safety laws. Both reissues had rubber tires and the facial paint.

*'''Ultra Magnus Movie Preview version''' (2001)
: In the early stages of the development of the 1986 animated movie, several promotional clips for the movie were produced, including one depicting Ultra Magnus in the original Diaclone Powered Convoy color scheme. The Movie Preview toy was released in 2001 based on that brief (and premature) appearance, featuring a blue colored cab.

*'''Ultra Magnus Matrix Glow version''' (2001)
: With a yellow cab and a clear yellow trailer, Matrix Glow Ultra Magnus or Shining Magnus is intended to recall the moment in the animated movie, just before Optimus Prime dies, when the Matrix is passed to Ultra Magnus and he is bathed in its Matrixey yellow light. It was also released in 2001.

: This version is sometimes referred to by fans as "Urine Magnus", or slightly less-polite variations of the same.

===Generation 2===
* '''Laser Ultra Magnus''' (2006)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' ''' TRF-13-S'''

[[Image:G2_LaserUltraMagnus_toy.jpg|right|thumb|Probably the only Magnus repaint of Prime we'll ever get who isn't just white.]]

: An [[e-Hobby]] exclusive, ''Generation 2'' Laser Ultra Magnus is a redeco of Laser Optimus Prime, transforming into a mid-1990s Western Star 4964EX extended-hood truck pulling a blue and white tanker trailer. He was packaged in the reissue Laser Optimus Prime's box, along with Prime's instructions, bio card and sticker sheet. Yes, the stickers that have "Optimus Prime" written on them.

:In robot mode the bottom of the truck became his familiar windowed chest based upon the original Optimus Prime toy (and the original Ultra Magnus's cab). His main gimmick was light up LED headlights, and a [[lightpipe]] in the bottom of his right fist, illuminated by an LED in his right forearm, that would illuminate his clear sword or his double-barreled rifle if they were used in that hand. All three LEDs were activated simultaneously by pressing the sunroof-like depression on the roof of the truck.

:The trailer unfolds to form a battle station bristling with many firing weapons. Primarily, it can fire an air-powered missile launcher, a ripple rocket launcher with 5 missiles that can be launched individually (this turret can also be mounted in Laser Magnus' hand) and a 'disc launcher', that fired several white plastic discs. This disc launcher is the only weapon that can be used in vehicle mode.

:This release uses the toolings that were modified for the ''Robots in Disguise'' [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]] toy, and thus has smooth discs and a less pointy sword.

===Masterpiece===
* '''Ultra Magnus''' (2004)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''MP-2'''

[[Image:Masterpiece_UltraMagnus_toy.jpg|left|thumb|He looks like this in ONE comic. ONE.]]

: ''Masterpiece'' Ultra Magnus is a white redeco of ''Masterpiece'' Convoy (Optimus Prime) with all the same accessories, though some have been redecoed. Additionally, his box can be refolded into his classic trailer configuration, but doesn't hold up since it's, well, cardboard. He retains the Matrix, which he can indeed open. Damnit, open.

: As a Takara product, ''Masterpiece'' Ultra Magnus was never released in the US, but was eventually released by Hasbro Australia in 2005 for their market as a Target-exclusive, retaining his Japanese packaging, with simple stickers stating a recommended age of 8+, as well as presenting Hasbro Australia's details and explaining what the product was.

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===Classics===
*'''Ultra Magnus vs Skywarp: Battle For Autobot City''' (Multi-pack, 2007)
[[Image:ClassicsUltraMagnus_toy.jpg|right|thumb|Arctic Camo Prime!]]

: A [[redeco]] of the Voyager class Optimus Prime, this release is part of the Target [[exclusive]] ''Battle for Autobot City'' set with [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]. The final production toy has several major paint paint application differences compared to the toy depicted on the packaging, including the loss of all light blue paint (including his faceplate and crest, both replaced with silver, darker blue on his thighs. Also his red eyes are replaced with the light piping color (blue). Additionally, it seems the smokestacks/double-barreled gun was originally going to be cast or painted white instead of the final's black.

: Like Optimus Prime, the toy's gimmicks are in his weapons - his smokestacks fold together to become a double-barreled gun, and his aero fairing splits and unfolds to become a large shotgun-like blaster. The two weapons also combine into a double-barreled shoulder cannon.

===Titanium Series===
*'''Ultra Magnus''' (6-inch Cybertron Heroes, 2007)
[[Image:TitaniumHero_UltraMagnus.jpg|left|thumb|Oh, that's right, this Ultra Magnus guy had a trailer or something, didn't he?]]

: ''Titanium Cybertron Heroes'' Ultra Magnus is an all-new sculpt constructed mostly of die-cast metal. For the first time, Ultra Magnus's cab and trailer are one piece, rather than a [[partsformer]] like the ''Generation 1'' toy version. He transforms very similarly to the original toy, but the aformentioned truck cab now folds down into his back rather than detaching and reconnecting, with his head fliping out of the back of the cab.

: Ultra Magnus is armed with a white laser rifle and two shoulder-mounted non-firing rocket launchers. Unfortunately due to the robot mode-oriented design of this figure, as well as size limitations, the rear ramp is now part of his legs as detail and cannot fold down, nor is there access for vehicles to be transported, in any case.

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*'''Ultra Magnus''' (6-inch Cybertron Heroes, 2007)

: A [[redeco]] of the 6-inch War Within Optimus Prime. In white!

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===Revoltech===

* '''Ultra Magnus''' (2007)
Ultra Magnus is, unsurprisingly, a redeco of a simultaneously-released Optimus Prime/Convoy figure. A non-transforming but ''highly'' articulate action figure, [[Revoltech]] Ultra Magnus uses the Revoltech "revolver joints" for maximum poseability. His sculpting is explicitly in the style of [[Pat Lee|Pat "serfdom" Lee]]'s interpretation of Prime.

Magnus comes with a Matrix and photon rifle accessories, as well as a few alternate hands. A unique extra "hand" is a single moulded piece of Ultra Magnus and Optimus Prime's hands clasped together diagonally, so that when attached to both the Prime and Magnus' respective wrists one can create a scene of the two Autobot leaders shakin' like homeys. Additionally, although Magnus comes preassembled with the standard black revolver joints that Prime has, his packaging includes a sheet of replacement white joints one can use to customise Magnus with less obrtusive matching white joints (although not enough joints of the right style are included to swap out all black joints to optimal effect).

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==Merchandise==
*'''Ultra Magnus''' (Super Collection Figure, 2002)

*'''Ultra Magnus''' (Heroes of Cybertron, 2003)

*'''Ultra Magnus''' (Super Collection figure, 2003)

: "Movie preview" redeco of the Ultra Magnus PVC, based on the original toy's Diaclone colour scheme as seen in early trailers for the 1986 movie.

*'''Ultra Magnus''' (Hard Hero bust, 2004)

[[Image:Ultramagnushardhero.jpg|right|thumb|100px|UHN!]]

: The cold-cast porcelain bust of Ultra Magnus was the 13th in [[Hard Hero]]'s series of Transformers busts. It was designed from line art by [[Dan Khanna]].

*'''Ultra Magnus and Megatron''' (Robot Heroes PVC, 2007)

: This is a small, non-transforming SD figurine with limited articulation from the "Robot Heroes" line, in a two pack with G1 Megatron. He may be the sassiest bitch on Cybertron.

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==Trivia==

[[Image:DiacloneMagnusAnime1.jpg|left|150px|thumb| "Do you guys think my hair would look better in blue?"]]

*In early trailers for Transformers the Movie, Ultra Magnus can be seen in alternate animated sequences in his toy's original Diaclone color scheme.

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==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/UltraMagnus/ultramagnus.htm Ultra Magnus at TFU.info]

*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Ultra_Magnus Ultra Magnus' Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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Jazz (G1)

2007-05-28T09:00:16Z

203.166.96.236: /* Toys */ Some rearrangement.

{{disambig2|The original Autobot ''cool cat''|for the version from the live-action movie|Jazz (Movie)}}

:''Jazz is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family. He is also known as '''Meister'''.''

[[Image:Jazzg1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Eat floor, dig?]]

'''Jazz''' is [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s right-hand man. Unlike [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], Prime's military strategist, Jazz responds well to change and improvisation. Whatever surprises the Decepticons spring, Jazz can deal with it. His position as Special Operations Agent calls for all the skills he possesses, yet he still has time to add some style into everything he does.

An admirer of Earth music of every kind, Jazz loves culture. More than most other Autobots, he has his finger on the pulse of Earth trends and lingo. Chances are, Jazz could tell you the status of almost any reality television show and each week's Top 40 list.

Jazz's personality makes him well-liked among the others of the Ark, especially [[Bumblebee]]. In fact, there is not one Autobot who ''doesn't'' like or admire Jazz.

:''Preliminary name:'' '''Jazzz'''<br>
:''Japanese name: '''Meister'''<br>
:''French-Canadian name: '''Saxo'''<br>
:''Italian name: '''Tigre'''<br>
:''RTM1 dub name: '''Marshall'''

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
:''(Events from UK-only stories are in italics.)''
[[Image:Jazzg1marvelfirst.jpg|left|thumb|100px|Hey, man, this is not my scene!]]
Jazz was one of the Autobots who crashed on [[Earth]] four million years ago, waking up in 1984. Jazz showed an affinity with human pop culture almost immediately, responding to [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s non sequitor assertion that his "logic center dictates the most advantageous course of action in any situation" with "Well, that is neat-o, Prowl."

Jazz's first foray into action came when the [[Decepticon]]s attacked him and his fellow Autobots at [[Witwicky Auto Repairs]], resulting in the kidnapping of [[Sparkplug Witwicky]]. Later, when Sparkplug was rescued and it was learned that the auto repairman had devised a way for the Decepticons to convert [[Earth]] fuel into a usable resource, the Autobots were enraged. Jazz shot a stream of fire to prevent Sparkplug's escape, causing the [[human]] to suffer a heart attack.

''It was discovered that after the Autobots crash landed on Earth, a rescue ship was sent after them which was buried somewhere in England. The [[Man of Iron]], one of its crew, had awakened a number of times in England's history, and had become a local legend. Jazz, along with [[Trailbreaker]], [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]], and [[Bluestreak]], were dispatched to England under [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s supervision. Jazz befriended (and kidnapped) a young boy, [[Tommy Harker]], whose dad worked at the castle where the Autobot rescue ship had been partially unearthed. After questioning the boy, it became apparent that the rescue ship must be destroyed. At the climax of a battle with the Decepticons over the buried ship, Jazz fired his weaponry down into it, and it was pulverized.''

Jazz spent three weeks in a shipping container in order to get to Skagway, Alaska unnoticed by the Constructicons. [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] then became stuck while scouting the base, and Jazz suffered brain damage while coming to his aid. Hoist was forced to drag the uncooperative, bewildered Jazz to through hostile territory to safety. ''The damage was repairable.'' {{Storylink|The Mission}}

====Generation 2====

===Animated continuity===
:''Voice Actor:'' [[Scatman Crothers]], ''[[Wally Burr]]'' (US), [[Kōki Kataoka]] (Japan)

[[Image:cybertronjazz.jpg|thumb|Spoiler Alert. HAW!]]

Blacker than the inside of a drive shaft -- that's how Jazz described the north side of Cybertron. The slang-talking operations specialist was on a recon mission to ascertain Cybertron's bleak energy reserves, and his reports are what prompted the Autobot mission to search for new sources of energy outside of their home world. Jazz served as pilot for the ''[[Ark]]'' until severe asteroid turbulence knocked him from his seat. The Decepticons took advantage of the confusion and attacked, and both vessels and parties crash-landed on Earth.

Four million years later, in 1984, the Autobots and Decepticons awoke reformatted to fit in on the planet. Jazz traded in his sleek Cybertronian form for an even sleeker Porsche 935 Turbo. As a lieutenant to [[Optimus Prime]] Jazz was charged with assembling task forces and special mission teams to counter the Decepticon threat. Jazz accompanied the first mission to an off-shore oil rig, where his wrist-mounted grappling hook and winch came in handy saving Optimus Prime. He used the same line to stop Prime from riding the rapids at [[Sherman Dam]], and to pull [[Bluestreak]] and [[Ironhide]] from an unscheduled lake swim.

''Jazz is one of the main characters in the series up to season three, only making a few cameos with no lines. This is because [[Scatman Crothers]] died not long after the movie finished production.

Throughout season one, Jazz is seen giving orders and accompanying [[Optimus Prime]] on almost any mission they undertake. In season two, Jazz actually uses his light and sound show attack on at least two occasions.
''

===Dreamwave comic continuity===
8.2 million years ago, Jazz and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] met [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] in the remains of [[Praxus]]' [[Helix Gardens]] to discuss the worthiness of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optronix]] to lead the Autobots. Jazz later attended the [[Matrix]]-transfer ceremony at the [[Chamber of the Ancients]]; he attempted to save Optronix - now Optimus Prime - when he was attacked by [[Decepticons]], but was restrained by Grimlock. When Prime defeated the assassins, Jazz was convinced of his worth.

Soon afterwards, Jazz questioned Prowl's decision to allow Prime to explore the depths of the planet alone, but was prevented from pressing the issue any further when [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] attacked [[Iacon]] with an army of Decepticons. Jazz helped direct the battle from the [[Decagon]], but the defenders were soon overwhelmed. Jazz was forced to begin evacuating important artifacts and hardware from the city, but was unable to finish before the Decepticons overran the Decagon. He and a handful of Autobots made a desperate last stand, but were saved from extinction when [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] activated the planetary engines, devastating the city and forcing Shockwave's army to retreat.

7.4 million years ago, Jazz witnessed the [[space bridge]] explosion that seemingly killed Prime and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. After the subsequent fragmentation of the Autobot faction, Jazz remained with the Prowl-led Autobots. He accompanied a group of Autobots to investigate a [[Trypticon (G1)|new mobile battle base]] at the [[Praetorus Wharf]], only to learn that the base was fully operational. Despite the arrival of reinforcements, the titan was too much for Jazz and his cohorts; only when Shockwave recalled Trypticon to the [[Neutral Territories]] were they saved them from certain doom.

Battered, Jazz and the others limped back to Iacon, only to be forced to repel an attack on [[Autobase]] by [[The Fallen]]. Although Jazz, [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]], and [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] fought valiantly, the mysterious entity defeated them and archived his objective: freeing [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] from captivity.

Jazz was among the crew of the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'' when it crashed on [[Earth]], and awoke in 1984 to battle the Decepticons. After years of fighting, Jazz and the other Autobots took part in [[Operation Liberation]] in 1998, a joint human/Autobot operation that defeated and captured the Earth-bound Decepticons. However, the ''[[Ark II]]'', which was meant to convey the Autobots, the captured Decepticons, and a number of humans back to Cybertron was sabotaged by General [[Robert Hallo]], sending Jazz and his comrades to the bottom of the [[Arctic Ocean]].

A few years later, Optimus Prime awoke Jazz and a number of other Autobots, to combat the sinister [[Lazarus]]. He aided in the cleanup of Lazarus' latest target, the [[SmitCo]] oil refinery, and then moved on to Lazarus' base, which had been taken over by a revived Megatron and his deadly 'metal virus'. Jazz and the others briefly battled the Decepticons, but were stopped in their tracks when Hallo dropped a nuclear bomb on them. The virus absorbed most of the blast, leaving the Transformers unharmed, but continued to expand across the countryside. Jazz remained behind with a team to combat the virus, while Optimus Prime took a contingent of warriors to combat Megatron in [[San Francisco]]. Armed with [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]-designed blasters to combat the virus, Jazz and his squad fought bravely, despite the blasters draining their energy and the well-meaning interference of the Canadian Army. But soon the virus overwhelmed them, forcing Wheeljack to sacrifice himself to destroy it. Jazz mourned over Wheeljack's fallen form.

Some time later, Jazz participated in a battle in [[Alaska]] over possession of an escape pod containing [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], only to be forced to flee with the other Autobots when Shockwave arrived from Cybertron, proclaiming a new era of peace. While Optimus Prime and a number of other Autobots surrendered to Shockwave's lieutenant [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], Jazz was left behind on Earth to command a small team of Autobots. After Magnus and Prime had departed, Jazz, [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]], and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] returned to the battlefield, but found no trace of the pod or Scourge.

===Devil's Due ''G.I. Joe vs. Transformers'' comics continuity===

===IDW comics continuity===

[[Image:IDW_Jazz.jpg|left|thumb|170px|Whoops! I better wind down my woofers!]]

Jazz is part of a detachment of Autobots that has operated covertly on Earth for at least four years, attempting to foil a Decepticon insurgency. His role within the Autobot detachment has not been revealed as of yet.

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==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Jazz''' (Autobot Car, 1984/1985/2002/2003)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-06''', '''TFC-01'''

[[Image:G1_Jazz_toy.jpg|right|thumb|At least he doesn't like music as much as [[Blaster]]]]

:Jazz was part of the original assortment of Autobots released in 1984. He transforms into a Martini Racing Porsche 935 Turbo. In robot mode, he is armed with a silver 'photon rifle' and a shoulder mounted, spring-loaded rocket launcher that can fire three silver missiles.

:His mold was also used to make the pre-Transformers Diaclone Porsche 935 Turbo and [[Ricochet (G1) (Autobot)|Ricochet]].

* '''Jazz''' (Pretender Classic, 1989)

* '''Jazz''' (Legend, 1989)

* '''Jazz w/ Turbo Board''' (Action Master, 1990)

[[Image:Actionmaster_Jazz.jpg|left|thumb|Now he can shred the streets on his board.]]

:[[Action Master]] Jazz's sculpt was based upon his cartoon model. As with most Action Master figures, he cannot transform, but his Turbo Board partner can transform from a skateboard into a large blaster weapon.
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* '''Meister''' (2003)
[[Image:Ehobby_Meister.jpg|right|thumb|Looks like someone's been sneaking out to the [[electrum]] pool again.]]

: This version of reissue Jazz is almost entirely constructed of vaccum-metalized gold plastic, based on Jazz's [[electrum]]-covered appearance appearance in {{Storylink|The Golden Lagoon}}.

: [[E-Hobby|e-Hobby]] [[exclusive]], sold with [[Bluestreak (G1)|Streak (anime version)]]

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===Generation 2===
*'''Jazz''' (Autobot Car, 1993)

[[Image:G2_Jazz.jpg|left|thumb|Promoted!]]

:Generation 2 Jazz is a slight retool and redeco of the original toy. His face (apparently degraded from mold usage) now has a strange smirk. His roof has been retooled with a small hole to accommodate his new bright green, spring-loaded missile launcher. All of his Martini racing stickers have been replaced with various new stickers depicting his name and the number '1' layed over a rainbow-colored musical note.

:This mold became the basis for future reissues of Jazz, complete with his smirk.

====Unreleased====

*'''Jazz''' (Laser Cycle)

===Universe===
*'''Autobot Jazz''' (Spy Changer, 2004)

===Smallest Transforming Transformers===
* '''Meister''' (2004)
[[Image:WSTF_Meister.jpg|right|thumb|Tiny Jazz]]

:World's Smallest Transformers Jazz is a tiny replica of the original toy. His wheels do not roll and he has a simplified transformation scheme.

===Alternators===
*'''Meister''' Mazda RX-8 (Alternator, 2004/2006)
:''Alternator ID number:'' '''7'''
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-08'''
"''Do it with style or don't do it at all''"

[[Image:Alternators_Meister.jpg|left|thumb|Zoom zoom zoom!]]

:Alternators Meister transforms into a highly accurate 1:24 scale Mazda RX-8. He features a opening hood with engine, opening 'suicide' doors and trunk with a realistic interior. In robot mode he is sculpted to resemble both the original G1 Jazz toy and the G1 cartoon model. He is armed with a rifle that transformed from his muffler.

: This mold was also used to make [[Zoom-Zoom]], and was retooled into a Mazdaspeed RX-8 as [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockblast]].

===Titanium===
*'''Autobot Jazz''' (Robot Masters, 2006)

[[Image:Titanium_RM_Jazz.jpg|right|thumb|120px|]]

:Titanium Jazz is a small, 3" non-transformable die-cast metal figurine based upon his Alternators design. He has articulation in his waist, shoulders and head.

===Attacktix===
*'''Autobot Jazz'''

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==Merchandise==
*'''Jazz''' (2003)

==Trivia==
[[Image:LiveActionJazz-Skywarp01.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Not cosplay - cos'''work'''.]]

*A commercial for Transformers reflective iron-on patches advertised the "Prizes in Disguise" competition. When the iron-on patch was used, it was possible to instead find an instant win ticket for a Transformers voice changer (of the [[Enemy]] variety) - or to have a party with "life size" Transformers! Among the "life size" Transformers shown were Jazz and [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]. If you actually did party with Jazz and Skywarp, please let us know.

==External links==
* [http://www.toybin.org/search.php?q=1984+Autobot+Jazz ToyBin Jazz Toy Gallery]
* [http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Jazz/jazz.htm Jazz at TFU.info]

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Starscream (Movie)

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:''Starscream is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|Movie]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:moviescream.jpg |right|thumb|250px|He once caught one ''this big''.]]

'''Starscream''' is all ego, vanity, and self-interest. He will do anything to hang on to power or attain more. Though quite powerful he is at heart a schemer, contemptuous of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s reliance on brute force. Starscream believes that lies, manipulation, and clever deceit are a superior path to power.

== Fiction ==

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===Ghosts of Yesterday novel===

Starscream has ascended to Decepticon leadership in the absence of their former lord, and though he must "seem" to carry on the long search for the lost Megatron and the [[Allspark]] to keep his position as leader, his greatest hope is that Megatron NEVER be found. (Some loyal Decepticons, especially [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]], strongly suspect this and seek to frustrate Starscream's self-serving plans.)

===IDW ''Official Movie Prequel'' comic===

===Transformers (2007) film===
====Sector 7====
During late April/Early May of 2007, Sector 7 has intercepted two sound clips through agent Cod3x and another source. Apparently, Starscream wanted to make his presence known and left a message announcing that he could have the Allspark, and that Agent Powers would be the one to hand it over. These messages were somewhat garbled, as they were apparently received over a SETI@home system. So far, only these two "blips" have been analysed (the second still needing work), but more may come in the near future.

== Toys ==
===Transformers (2007)===
*'''Protoform Starscream''' (Deluxe, 2007)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-05'''
[[Image:MovieProtoform_Starscream_toy.jpg|right|thumb|250px|So we can assume this is the Screamer that fought the Ghost 1, right?]]

:Based upon the 'Protoform' (Cybertronian) appearances of the Transformers in the Movie, Protoform Starscream transforms into his 'Entry' mode cybertronic rocket thing. This mode somewhat resembles a cybertronic spaceship, with a visible bridge between the two dorsal fins. A flame decoration piece fits to the back of the 'vehicle' over the missile projectile, creating the illusion of a flaming comet's tail. The bottom of the vehicle has small wheels to roll the toy across smooth surfaces.

:In robot mode, Starscream marginally resembles previous Starscreams, mostly G1 Starscream, with the large turbines on his chest, wings and vents on his legs. Due to his extensive use of ball joints, he has excellent articulation. Starscream is armed with a spring-loaded missile launcher that fires the previously mentioned projectile cast in the same broze colour as his body. Alternatively, the flame decoration can be fitted onto the end of the barrel.

:This toy also has an [[Automorph]]ing feature, as most of the figures in the main line do. By pushing his head back during transformation, his shoulder pieces move back into place, while moving them forward will make the head pop back up. While either the missle or the flame can be placed into the gun, the flame can be placed onto the missle, using both at once.

: It's also entirely possible for this figure to eventually suffer from [[Gold Plastic Syndrome|GPS]], as the bronze plastic it is cast in has the same characteristic swirling that older figures exibited before it would deteriorate. However, newer materials and processes may prevent the toy from ever seeing a single crack form. It is highly suggested that this toy not be painted or altered in any way to maximize its life span. This means YOU, [[kitbash]]ers.

*'''Starscream''' (Voyager, 2007)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-08'''

: The Voyager-class version of ''Movie'' Starscream transforms into a very inaccurate, though officially-licensed [[wikipedia:F-22|Lockheed-Martin F-22 Raptor]]. It should also be noted that it is also somewhat inaccurate to the CG model, having much larger arms due to the blasters added to his hands, and being slightly bulkier around the chest.

*'''Starscream''' (Legends, 2007)

: Legends-class Starscream is a highly simplified, low-cost version of Starscream in his F-22 Raptor body. As such, he has a greatly compromised transformation sequence due to the smaller parts count, with limited articulated and detailing.

====Fast Action Battlers====
*'''Battle Blade Starscream''' (2007)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''QC-02'''

:Battle Blade Starscream transforms into a somewhat superdeformed F-22 Raptor, simplifying the overall design to the point of his feet noticably sticking out the aft of the fighter. Rather than having a seperate weapon, he only has a claw-like blade that flips over the right hand (hence 'Battle Blade') and a missile for his left hand.

==Merchandise==
*'''Starscream Barrel Roll Blaster''' (2007)
:This version of Starscream's altmode turns into not a robot, but a robot '''fist''' holding a two-barreled blaster. The guns in this form fire Nerf N-Stike sized foam missiles.

*'''Lunchables''' "Pocket Transformers" toy prize (2007)
[[Image:Starscreamlunchables.jpg|right|thumb|I come with crappy chicken.]]

:Free inside specially marked boxes of Oscar Meyer Lunchables dinners, Starscream was one of six "Pocket Transformers" toy prizes. Molded in green, his tablet unfolds to reveal a picture of his robot mode inside.

:The Lunchables website code engraved on his back is "MISLEAD."

*'''Starscream Micro Flyer''' (2007)

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==Trivia==
* The back of Protoform Starscream's card features a photo of the toy with a differently molded head.

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Talk:Hugo Weaving

2007-05-28T08:49:47Z

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Isn't this still just a rumor? - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 09:43, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
:Well, its from the official ARG site, unless its an elaborate hoax. Plus Walky (admin) himself put Weaving in the movie cast and movie Megs entries. Easy enough to delete this article if it doesn't pan out. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

:: I think this should be in universe and talk about Agent Weaving, the plant.us That is our thing right?
::: Sometimes, usually our articles about real people who worked on TF are done 'straight'. I'd prefer to save such jokes for snarky captions for Megatron (when more information is officially released). --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

:::: Tha difference being most actors/real people aren't also characters in the fiction. Thanks to the meta-game Agent Weaving is now a character in the fiction, and that must be covered. He's pretty unique now. Our own Sgt. Slaughter. -Zacwilliam(posting via Wii, so forgive the choppyness)
::::: Not so unique, really. 'Cause, [[Raksha]], [[Ben Yee]], [[Stan Bush]]. That's how this should be handled, with a fiction section. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 11:20, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

::::: Ok' ya got me. They slipped my mind. I still think he's rather unique in that he's a famous person purposely introed into the fiction, vs. a fan-nod/easter egg but the difference is rather semantic and a fiction section for Hugo should serve fine (I just find the exclusively in-universe entries fun. :) )--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 13:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

::::::[[Richard Branson]]. That said, there's no reason there can't also be a page for [[Agent Weaving]]. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 17:45, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

i call vandalism on this page. anyone else see it?--[[User:72.66.73.224|72.66.73.224]] 05:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
:Mnnnoooo...? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:28, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
::this:
::"Of course, this is all scandalous lies perpetrated by the Illumin- I mean, those heathen scientists. He's really an undercover agent working for Sector 7, trying to hide the N.B.E.'s from the public, and covering it up by acting fictional movies, like that thing with the jewelry or the internet that plugs into your brain. This is all, of course, to keep you from seeing the upcoming historical documentary."
::Outright vandalizing garbage.
:::No, it isn't. Scroll down to the fiction section. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 06:01, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Kil's right. Hugo Weaving was included in the Sector 7 website fiction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:26, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::That's well and good for the fiction section, but not for the top section about Hugo Weaving the ACTOR, not Hugo Weaving the quoteunquote "spy".--[[User:72.66.73.224|72.66.73.224]] 04:08, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::The top section is about both! You know, like chocolate and peanut butter. That's not "outright vandalism." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:14, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::But it leads to confusion. Not everybody knows about that Sector 7 site. I sure didn't. So when I saw that description, I thought "oh gawd, this movie is giving birth to the biggest smartasses I've ever seen". Plus, wikis are about posting FACTS about stuff. FACT: Hugo Weaving is an actor. FACT: A website tying-in to a film Weaving is appearing him portrays him as a spy working on the film, in other words, an in-story hoax.--[[User:72.66.73.224|72.66.73.224]] 08:18, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::::As one of the Australians here, and speaking for my fellow Australian, I think Hugo would be amused at this article. Or not. Anyway, there's no need to be all serious and uptight about what is an amusing way to announce a casting by making the very actor a character. - FFN @ class<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>