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*wide eyed*
I thought the Matrix contained the accumulated wisdom of the ages?

In the cartoons, yes. In the comics, however, it contained the essence of Primus, and as such was what allowed Prime to give life to new Transformers/destroy Unicron with it.

The Matrix of Leadership accumulated the Wisdom of the Ages by being a portal to the Allspark. When a Transformer is alive, it grows in knowledge, and when it dies, its Spark returns to the Allspark and adds its experience to the whole. --ItsWalky

So... how exactly dids it 'use up' the wisdom of the ages in Return of Optimus Priem then?
...and for that matter, how the hell did they recharge it with a nuclear power plant? ;-)

The Matrix serves many different purposes. It's a Tchotke of Ultimate Power, or - literally - a Deus-Ex-Machina.

I think it's referred to as The PowerPack in the Japanese continuity, and at this is the simplest example of it's functionality - a large battery.

It is also the Prime Matrix. It essentially contains Primus's "blueprints" for the Transformer race, which are continually reinterpreted by Vector Sigma, in association with the knowledge and sparks of those Transformers who have returned to the Allspark. (I suspect that this is why Vector Sigma occasionally requires that the Matrix be brought to it - so that it can be updated)

It is also these days, most likely home to the Creation Matrix, a program which was at one point resident in Optimus Prime (and Buster Witwicky's) head.

It is sometimes referred to as The Autobot Matrix of Leadership, though it seems like this is a mostly ceremonial thing - It is possible to lead the Autobots without it, but it's usually placed in possession of the leader for safekeeping.

Finally, it is - or has evolved into, at least in some continuities, an entity in it's own right
--ttk

== Japanese Matrix confusion. ==

-BW2 and Neo's Matrices are NOT the Matrix of Leadership. They are seperate, OTHER Matrixes. They should be listed on a pages about Matrixes, not on the MoL page, which has a rich and stories history without involving the other things.

-FIRE CONVOY DID NOT HAVE A MATRIX. yes, I know his toy was designed with one? It's his Power Filter. The producers of the CR series didnt' want to deal with matrix-shit, so they made it his Power Filter. That's why he plugs an energy cable right into it one episode while recharging.

Rid DUBBED that power filter back into beign the Matrix of Leadership. Yes, it's stupid and complicated, but that's hwo it is. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:54, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I was just about to note this. I just remembered I'd deleted this crap once before for the same reason. X-Bob, seriously, learn to spell and stop spamming this wiki with the same stuff over and over -- or otherwise manage to be useful somehow -- or you're going bye-bye. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:04, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

The Spelling complaint I can understand, but spamming? [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 12:23, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

:Perhaps I'm Wrong, but this is what I've been Told many a time by several different sources. When they were producing BWII (or perhaps when they were producing Neo--who the hell knows anymore) the Japanese Continuity Guys decided that at some point after G1, under unknown circumstances, the Matrix of Leadership was fragmented or split up and a fragment was given to each member of the Convoy Council (or only the best members, or something like that.) This is why LioConvoy and Big Convoy have Matrixes, even though they probably couldn't be 'technically' called the Matrix of Leadership, it's definitely supposed to be a fragment of it. But Anyway. Fire Convoy would also, in theory, have this in his chest (Although Fire Convoy, and indeed most of the RID-related cast, has a questionable existance 'in' the original continuity, but for the moment we'll assume that they do exist). So he plugs a cable into it in one ep. That doesn't mean much--Big Convoy used to hook his Matrix up to the Big Cannon. But yeah. Those three are definitely shards of the Matrix of Leadership. Now, whether this is worth actually mentioning or not, that's up to you. >.> [[User:Onslaught Six|Onslaught Six]] 07:38, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I wanna write an article for the Beast Wars II and Neo versions of the Matrix, but you guys don't want it on this page. So what should I name it, then? They are Matrices of Leadership, just not THE Matrix of Leadership. So what would be a good name to use "Matrix of Leadership (BW)"? No?--[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 00:12, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

:I don't... THINK they had names. I think an article called 'Lioconvoy's Matrix' would be fine. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:28, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

But should I make seperate articles for Big Convoy's Matrix and Optimus Primal's/Beast Convoy's Matrix? Or should I just bunch em all under Lioconvoy's Matrix?--[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 01:38, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

*Alright, I went ahead and wrote an article under [[Leadership Matrix]], as that seemed to work well-enough. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 01:24, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

===Fire Convoy===

While I see here - and have seen it said elsewhere (mostly by Derik!) - that Fire Convoy did not have a Matrix in ''Car Robots'', I've also heard other people say that he DID, and that God Magnus had his own, and wanted to take Fire Convoy's for himself to increase his own power. It was the overspill of power which resulted from this, so I've heard, that was responsible for the powering-up of the Car Brothers. Anyone know wot's wot? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:07, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

:At the moment, I'm not sure about God Magnus having a Matrix of his own, but I have some proof that Fire Convoy himself DID possess a Matrix.

:[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/Prime-Schematic01a.jpg Here]

:This is a scan from a Car Robots guidebook I got at BotCon. The arrow pointing to where Fire Convoy's flip-up Matrix panel on the toy says (roughly):

:"Energon Matrix. Computer that stores fight data. Proof of his position as Leader."

:Incidentally, that other thing in his torso is his Spark (which is indicated by a text box on the page below).

:So, there you go. Fire Convoy's Energon Matrix. I'll check the rest of my books later to see if there's anything about Lio Convoy or Big Convoy's matrices. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:07, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

::[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/bbe3540aff261785 Doug E. Fresh speaketh]
::I'm tired of relying on source books. Clearly, at one point it was goign to be a Matrix, but then they changed their minds (or vice versa.) Which was it in the '''finished episodes''' in Japan?
::(Takara considers CR and RiD the same series, so just callign ti a Matrix isnt' awful, but I'd reallyprefer we get our facts straight.)-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:58, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

:The online TV Tokyo episode summaries for Car Robots episodes 24 and 25 speak of how God Magnus "aims for Fire Convoy's Energon Matrix". [http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/carobot/koremade.html Here.]

:I've found nothing in my books or on Japanese websites that suggests that God Magnus had his own Energon Matrix, but simply that he was after Fire Convoy's, and that trying to take it was what triggered their fusion into God Fire Convoy.

:As for the Cybertronia Engine, perhaps that was an early idea that was dropped, or a misinterpretation? Maybe if we could find the original page..

:As for other Matrices, here's some data on [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/LioConvoy-Data01a.jpg Lio Convoy].

:According to that page, Lio Convoy ALSO has an Energon Matrix (it's the thing under the panel on his chest). Roughly, the text says: "Energon Matrix. An energy box which only Cybertron leaders possess. Maximum output of 105 00000 horsepower."

:That it's called an Energon Matrix is backed up by the Robot Masters toy's bio. I've yet to find a name for Big Convoy's Matrix, alas. Maybe it's also an Energon Matrix.

::Well... boo. Since Fire Convoy plugged his repowering hose into the 'matrix' in one episode of CR, I assumed the Power Converter version was what was in play for the cartoon.
::I guess I have to remember, this is Japan, the country that decided you could recharge the wisdom of the ages by hooking the matrix up to a nuclear power plant. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:49, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

:::See, I was thinking that the little socket-thingie wasn't his Matrix, but that he had his Matrix stored somewhere else in his body, like, behind the windows of his small bot mode, as usual. I mean, Magnus's attempt to take it didn't involve going for that socket in any way, and heck, in Omega Prime mode, the piece containing that socket isn't even involved. Christ, RiD took all this and made it SO MUCH more sensible. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:17, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

::::This is probobly his spark, but It could be a Matrix
http://www.dvandom.com/bb00/5fire.GIF

:(EDIT: Not RM Lio Convoy's bio, his [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/RMLioConvoy-Instructs.jpg instructions]. My bad.)

:For an unexpected twist, check out this [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/BW2Galvatron-Data01a.jpg Galvatron] page. Item 10 is... the "Galva-Matrix"! That marble-thingie on his chest. My translator had trouble with this one, unfortunately. "Galva-Matrix. In life, a Spark-protecting crystal sphere. (Something about the future), it will carry a mysterious power."

:I'd guess that the Galva-Matrix isn't a "true" Matrix, but just something done to emphasize Galvatron as Lio Convoy's counterpart. Still, may be worth a footnote --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:10, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
::IIRC, the Galva-Matrix is a supercomputer from Gaea that Galvatron stuck in his chest... or something. It is not a trtue Matrix, but he calsl it that. (And I don't know enough about BW2 to know whether or nto it ha any affinity for Amogolis or not.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:49, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

== Dreamwave Continuity ==
*I've added more info, but this probably needs more fleshing out. And if someone could find a better picture, preferably of the matrix visible through Optimus's damaged chestplate, that'd be grand. [[User:Fulcrum|Fulcrum]] 15:45, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

==Amalgamation and sources==
I haven't looked at this article in a little while, but I have some concerns with its current state. The introduction is concise, but combines several ideas about the Matrix into a single story which could mislead readers who don't realize that it is an amalgamation of many different ideas. Later in the article this becomes more clear, but the introduction needs some sort of a statement that it is making a meta-continuity/retcon-rich summary.

Additionally, I am not familiar with the factoid given in the G1 section about Prime being the seventh Matrix bearer. On what is that statement based? Does it even apply to the cartoon universe?

Both of these concerns are basically the same thing: the article needs to be precise and forthcoming about where its information comes from, and how broadly applicable that information is.

--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 22:09, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

:Prime being the seventh Matrix bearer 'may' be based on something Alpha Trion said at some point--or it *could* be taken from one of those third season eps where Roddy goes into the Matrix to seek the wisdom of the dead guys. But probably Trion. [[User:Onslaught Six|Onslaught Six]] 07:40, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't think the BM entry should be 'see: allspark.' The Allspark may be caleld the Matrix, but it's not the Matrix of Leadership, which refers to the physical housing-- the artifact itself.
Or was there soem dumbass explicit statement the MOL was the Allspark I blocked otu from BM? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

== How do we handle this ?==

This page was a horrible mush of different objects from different continuities and fannon relating them. I fixed it so that it actually talks specifically about the MoL wich is VERY different from the Creation Matrix and the others, but now I see that the CM page just redirects here. How do we fix that. Thoughts? [[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 02:54, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
:With a Diagram, and little lines pointing to its parts? "Matrix of Leadership A.K.A. the Matrix Holder" "Crystal, contains Wisdom of the Ages A.k.a. the severed power of Primus, and the Creation Matrix program." "Also contaisn a direct access tot he Allspark Dimension."
:I think that breaking down by continuity is... rather a bad idea, actually, since in most modern meta-continuities, the Matrix will probably contain almost all of its aspects, even if they're not explicitly stated. You'd be better off with notes at the beginning of each fiction section noting that the MOL's aspects are limited ot X in this continuity.
: Here's something to ask- is the MoL related to the Matrix in Armada? I mean related in the same sense that the Unicrons are? What about the Mini-cons having their own allspark dimensiona in Linkage, and their own Matrix (apparently not really related to the full-sized TF's) in the Armada comic? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:05, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

:: Yeah, Originally I changed it mainly because I saw on Disambig. page that each variation on the Matrix seemes to already have its own page, wich seemed to suggest that this page should be only for the ACTUAL MoL from the cartoon. The problem is that really despite being based on the same McGuffin from the movie the MoL and the Creation Matrix are VERY different things really. Then you add in the later Matricies (what's the plural again?) whose natures are really vague (though most seem Primus-centric, as opposed to the MoL) and it's a big jumble of different objects that the article was trying to fannon together into one thing.

::Even if we do want to go for a joint page on all things Matrix, which may indeed be the best way, this needed editing, since if was a-mush with fannon. I also think if it's going to be universal, this article kinda belongs under the title "Autobot Matrix" since that's an appropriate title to refer to all the subjects contained therin, rather than nameing it after something that's only a small fraction of it's subject? Agree/disagree? [[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 11:29, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Disagree. The Matrix of Leadership, though traditionally held by an Autobot and thus signifying leadership, is not inherently Autobot.
:::If we're really lookign to un-muddy the waters, try tracking down the second-most-common name for the Creation Matrix (did we ever get an explicit statement that the Primordial Program was the CM?) and refer to it as that, at least ont his page. It's '''cheating''', but the resulting article would be much, much clearer.
::: (Half the mess seems to stem from the Autobots own tendency to refer tot he creation program and the object interchangably.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:55, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

:::What's the basis for putting different Matrices in one article? Shouldn't the G1 Cartoon, RiD, Beast Wars, and Armada Matracies, and the Creation Matrix have seperate pages? --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 12:10, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

:::: My first instinct was seperate pages as well, at least for the MoL and the CM since they're such different things. I think Derik's argument is that in later continuities that looked to toon and comic for inspiration, say Dreamwave-on, Matrixi (need plural... too lazy to look it up...) have been protrayed as a bit like both, making which page to put them on a bit more questionable.

:::: How much of that is really that true though? As far as I can think of off the top of my head, all new modern Matrixicies have kinda mostlyfunctioned on the Primus/Creation Matrix template, yes? I think the only real question might be where to place the original Japanese incarnation, where it was more a powersource, and vector sigma remote control than anything else, but I guess that's go best in with the other Japanese Leadership Matrixes, yes/no? [[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:02, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

"I fixed it so that it actually talks specifically about the MoL wich is VERY different from the Creation Matrix"
: Not in recent years, in which they're treated as the same object. For example, Primeval Dawn even refers to the Matrix of Leadership within Optimus Prime's chest as "that which gives life," which is the only way the two differ. They're both the only thing that Unicron fears, they both can grant life, and they're both kept in the same container. Much of what was on this page and considered fanon was actually real information from fictions you simply didn't remember. That's sort of why I made sure to create this page in the first place, 'cuz I was keeping track of it all, and wanted to make sure all the various connections were recorded. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:03, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

:: So then, because of the relative obscurity and intermingles nature of the sources here- this reallly is an article in need of some major footnoting.
:: (I'm ust goign to throw out that the awful Transformers Takai game specifically refers to the Matrix's power as comign from the crystal, not the housig, and says that it contains the collective wisdom of all Autobots who ever fought for Justice- a clear backing off of the 'only autobot leaders' thing.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:40, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
::: The original article did clearly need footnotes. It was one of the first few things I put on this wiki, back before sources were invented by Al Gore. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:21, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
::: Also, sadly, I am out of town and don't have access to my Ultimate Guide, Dreamwave material, and Universe stuffs, so I can't reconstruct this article for a while yet. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:34, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

:::: No problem. Since the concensus is one article for all Matricies I've reinstated the previous version. But, I've changed it to fit the established form somewhat beter (continuity neutral opening and all) and to remove some of the worst continuity mushing. Better? [[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 22:40, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

::::: Does anyone have suggestions on how to handle Beast Wars' use of the Matrix of Leadership as Optimus Prime's spark, while Primal carried it for a while? It needs to be addressed, and I recall someone mentioning that Foreward and DiTillo made the Matrix a Spark on accident. [[User:Mirai Gen|Mirai Gen]] 08:42, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::: That's already been addressed a few times on this wiki. Try the page for [[Authorial intent|author intent]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)]]. --[[User:67.188.23.44|67.188.23.44]] 16:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::: I copied the Primeval Dawn section from the Optimus Prime article and put it in this article. That's relevant, yes? --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 17:09, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

We need to make a decision about this article and the Creation Matrix article. I would favor combining the two, probably under the Creation Matrix article. Otherwise, we need to find a separate home for the Dreamwave/UT stuff, as it doesn't fit here any better than it fits under Creation Matrix if we're treating them as totally separate entities. We also need to sort out the Energon Matrixes info from here, and what's on the Energon Matrix page; given that there's more than one Energon Matrix in the Beast Era, I think that at least should be a separate article with links from here. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 21:20, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
: As far as I'm concerned, Creation Matrix is just another/early name for the Matrix of Leadership. They're the same object and they do the same things. The Dreamwave material blurred the waters even more between the two, connecting it, the Allspark, and Vector Sigma, just as, well, the original article stated. [[Creation Matrix]] should redirect to the Marvel Comics section of the [[Matrix of Leadership]] article. --Walky
::I consider Creation Matrix to be the more fundamental entity, and would prefer for the merged article to reside there. As far as I recall, neither name has been used in more than one continuity. Usually it's just plain old "the Matrix". (I would also accept the merged article residing under a generic name like that.) However, as more stories have given more and more information about the various Matrices, they have been converging towards something more like the CM than the MoL. The MoL has -- as far we know -- nothing to do with life, the universe, and everything. The CM on the other hand does. And so do all subsequent Matrices. The MoL is an aberration among (American, at least) Transformer Matrices for being nothing but a hand-me-down which happens to contain stored memories and can for some reason beat Unicron, who we know basically nothing about if you restrict yourself to just the MoL's continuity. The G1 toon has no Primus, no sparks, no Allspark. Those things are fundamental to the contemporary idea of the Matrix. The CM started out as just being a computer program, but by the end of the Marvel comics run it was the essence of Primus, just like our modern idea of what the Matrix is. So... yeah. CM>MoL. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 00:37, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
:: It was also called the Matrix of Leadership in Dreamwave continuity (just checked) and in the Unicron Trilogy (from memory, admittedly). The Matrix of Leadership these days is basically the Creation Matrix in practice but called "the Matrix of Leadership." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:51, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

== Great Matrix ==

In the fifth issue of the Marvel TF comic, Megatron swore by something called "the Great Matrix". Could this be another name for the Creation Matrix?
: The Matrix has about 30 different casual nicknames in the Marvel Comics, so yes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:53, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

== UT Matrix ==

Is the UT Matrix... the Matrix of Leadership?

Why is it in this article? The Mini-con Matrix (for instance) isn't. -Derik20:43, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
: It's called the Matrix of Leadership a few times in the Armada cartoon, I believe. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:58, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

::Oh please, it's not like names in the Armada dub can be relies on. Let's put it in a new article called 'Matrix of the Commander!'
::And you seem to be missing my point- why is the Matrix considered 'the same thing' across continuity families? The only other two articles (AFAIK) that span multiple continuity families are Primus and Unicron.
::It jsut seems kinda wierd for the Matrix to look the same and be the same thing for 85% of the article- and then suddenly we've got the RiD and UT Matrixes thrown in. "One is square and has a sword inside and the other is art-deco ane never gets mentioned when Unicron shows up, but they have the same name so I guess they go in this article!"
::Basically I'm suggesting making this article Matrix of Leadership (G1) -Derik21:12, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

:::They called it various things. The Matrix of the Commander, the Transformer Matrix, and simply 'the Matrix'. I don't believe Energon referred to the Matrix at all, even though that thing on his chest was supposed to the be the Matrix for some reason. In Cybertron they occassionally called it the Matrix of Leadership. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:17, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

:::: It's not just Unicron and Primus. [[Cybertron (planet)]] spans multiple continuity families, too. I'd be inclined towards keeping just a single Matrix of Leadership article. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 21:21, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

==Matrix Destroyed in Marvel US #75?==
Do we really know that the Matrix was destroyed when Prime used it to destroy Unicron in US issue #75? I mean, it certainly seems likely, but the uses of it in G2, although looking physically different (no surprise there) seem to refer to a physical object rather than just "Matrix energy" as the article suggests.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:37, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

:In G2, the first time we "see" the Matrix is when Megatron lays the smack down on Prime at the end of #6. He rips Prime's windows off, then asks Soundwave for a "siphon," which he clamps onto Prime's exposed chest (where, incidentally, we see no classic Matrix-container in its detailing). The siphon drains Prime's Matrix energy, and THAT becomes the new physical Matrix. Later, Starscream absorbs the energy and merges with the WarWorld, but he eventually gives the Matrix back to Prime in the form of a reconstituted container that looks like the classic one. Which the Swarm promptly eats, so whatever.
:Point being: While it's ''possible'' that the physical Matrix survived off-camera, there's no evidence of that, and the evidence that ''does'' exist suggests otherwise.
:- [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 22:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

::''Maybe'', I say ''maybe'' because there is nothing officially stated, the matrix probably destroyed in US issue #75 along with the explosion. But somehow it might be restored into Optimus Prime's new body by The Last Autobot, thus we can see the matrix through out the G2 comics. Well, just guess, 'cauz who the hell really KNOW? Errrr... --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 03:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
:::We cannot see the matrix throughout the G2 comics. As stated above, the matrix energy wasn't in any specific container until Megatron sucked it out and ''put it in one''. I've just recently re-read my Titan copies of the books, and Jackpot has the right of things.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 03:15, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

::Jackpot, I certainly don't dispute the facts as you lay them out. However, the siphon could just as easily be interpreted as taking out the energy ''from'' a "physical" matrix (not visibly exposed in the picture does not equal not present). Not to say this is likely, even. But I think the data is sparse enough to be open to interpretation, and to come out and ''state'' that the matrix is destroyed in US #75 smacks to me of fanon.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 00:11, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
:::The "siphon" thing was explained as an artist error in a later issue's letters page. Even within the fiction proper, Manny Galan draws a (poorly drawn) Matrix being kept on the Warworld just before Starscream steals it. His inner monologue reads: "The Matrix! How IRONIC. When Megatron '''tore it from Prime's chest cavity'''..." (Emphasis mine.) Galan continues to draw that same poorly-drawn Matrix floating inside Matrix-powered Starscream's chest, but in Geoff Senior's interpretation of that same scene, it's a more traditional-looking Matrix. (I wish I had my original issues at hand so I could find the letters page that dealt with this...) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:30, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Aha. [http://tfarchive.com/comics/marvel/?s=g2_us_07_12 TFarchive.com] notes that in issue 8's letters page, Prime's Matrix is stated to have been rebuilt along with the rest of him at the end of G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:32, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Ahhhh, yes. Good enough, then. Carry on.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 23:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

== MacGufffin Cat? ==

The MoL is currently in the MacGuffin cat. I don't think it belong there since it plays a very real can central role in the TF mythos. (Conversely the Allspark in the 2007 movie ''does'' because while it fills the same rule as far as the movie is concerned it's just an object both sides are chasing after, a classic MacGuffin.)

Do we have a 'Deus Ex' category? Or are we making the MacGuffin Category MacGuffins & Deus Ex's? (Both are Plot Devices, an overarching definition that encompasses both functions.)

I have no problem with the MacGuffin category also containing Deus Ex's (people confuse and conflate the two all the time) but the category description should probably say so. Was this already discussed and I missed it? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:47, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:The Matrix was DEFINITELY a MacGuffin in the original animated movie. Its only reason for being was to provide a poorly-explained object for both sides to fight over, and to kill Unicron at the end. It's been explained better since, but that doesn't negate the original MacGuffinness. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:52, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:So it's both a MacGuffin ''and'' a Deus Ex. I'm down with that. Do we (or should we) have a cat for Deus Ex's? (There's enough of them!) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:00, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

==Talk:AllSpark dagger==
=== Sysop action requested ===

I'm requesting that this page be protected from being '''moved''' by anyone but a sysop.

The '''name''' of the sharp pointy artifact contains spoilers, so I'm creating it here. It is described as a "dagger" in the Junior Novelization, and EVERYTHING ancient is connected to the AllSpark, so "AllSpark dagger" is both an accurate vaguely-official description, and a non-spoilery way to refer to it until the movie actually premieres. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:46, 16 May 2009 (EDT)
:Done! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:57, 16 May 2009 (EDT)
::I'm gonna see if I can set up a redirect at its spoilery-name ''without'' accidentally spoiling everyone reading RecentChanges... maybe we
can nip that in the bud too.
::(This will require experimentation.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:08, 16 May 2009 (EDT)
I am requesting that a sysop who is '''willing to spoil themselves''' full-protect these two redirect pages:
* Matrix of Leadership (Movie)
* Talk:Matrix of Leadership (Movie)
CSS obscuring their titles in recentChanges has been in place since last night, which should ''hopefully'' means that everyone has it in their cache by now. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:49, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
:What about Matrix of Leadership (ROTF)? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:29, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

Request filled. It'll require sysops to do anything to them, so holler when you need us.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:24, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

Derik, didn't work for me. Here's a screenshot of the Recentchanges page, with a screengrab of the CSS associated with the page according to Web Developer: [[:Image:RCIncludesROTFSpoilers.png]] - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 17:43, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
:Maaan! Creation, fine. Deletion, fine. But protect-log nexts the links inside another <nowiki></nowiki> which screws up the CSS... :(
:The one thing I ''couldn't'' test on my own. :p Well, it's fixed now.
:I also threw in CSS protection for Starfield's suggestion, if we want to create those redirects, they will be blacked out on RecentChanges.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:19, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

===Vat es dis?===
:::I thought our OMG SPOILERZ paranoia would not get in the way of ''conveying information'', which is the point of this goddamn site? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:42, 17 May 2009 (EDT)
::::If this was a comic book, we'd document it the day it came out. But these are spoilers for the movie-- which is more than a month off yet-- coming out of the things like ''novel adaptions''. The novels are out-- but they spoil something that is ''not'' out.
::::It's an "asynchronous spoilers" situation that only occurs around movies. We could could refuse to document ''anything'' until the movie is out-- but that just means we're ''going to be'' spoiled by some asshole creating an article, as well as creating a mess and making it hard to link stuff in the comic adaption articles. Now we have a spoiler-neutral article we can link to and move when the movie is released. This article is locked against moving to prevent all the recentChanges spoilering around Blackarachnia/Elita 1 and Longarm/Shockwave. I'm gonna try to set up a redirect without spoiling ppl too, and then ''that'' can be locked to prevent article-creation spoiling.
::::This all seems consistent with how TFWiki wants to handle spoilers, especially the asynchronous type. There's nothing in this article that's misleading... even the ''terminology'' is lifted directly from the books published, it's just kept deliberately vague.
::::(If the community disagrees we can change this, it just seemed like the correct course of action here, stemming from how we handle stuff.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:22, 17 May 2009 (EDT)
:::::PS: I found the overreaction over the Elita-1 and Longarm spoilers to be immensely dumb. "Elita-1" is a name. It did not actually say us anything we didn't know. Longarm's true identity was revealed in the very same episode he was introduced in. Those who went to the article of Longarm, a character who did not exist before that episode, were not particularly interested in protecting themselves from spoilers. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 09:36, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
Okay, Derik. Is this spoilery information ''in media that is currently released''? If so, our spoiler policy should be clear.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:47, 17 May 2009 (EDT)

I'm confused. Are we ''guessing'' that this thing is related to the AllSpark? Also, when was this mentioned "in passing" the Sector Seven ARG? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:49, 17 May 2009 (EDT)
:OMGSPOILERZ - It's the movie Matrix of Leadership - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:02, 17 May 2009 (EDT)

::Is.. there an answer to my question under there? I mean, the article reads: "Ooh-- I bet it's connected to the AllSpark, we could call it the Allspark dagger!" So.... are we just assuming a connection to the AllSpark and thus ''making up'' the name "AllSpark dagger," or what? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:08, 17 May 2009 (EDT)

:Yes, all the info here comes from stuff that's been released.
:It's being kept deliberately vague because, well... it's ''inherently'' spoiler-y. And (AFAIK) it's one of the spoilery bits that hasn't been widely spoiled yet.
:Also yes on the AllSpark thing. There is an explicit connection. (similar to that between Vector Sigma and the key to Vector Sigma... but not 100% analogous.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:09, 17 May 2009 (EDT)

So what I'm getting here is that this is something from, like, the novelization of the film, right? And putting it up spoils the arse clean off the film. I'd really like it, personally, if we could just... like... ''not'' put up stuff from the novelization or the comic adaptation until the film is out. So... you know... we don't ruin the movie for the large number of people who won't be reading either of those things (read: I'm not, and I'd like to be able to ''come'' to the wiki between now and the end of June). Derik, I'm assuming you're in general agreement on the basis that you've taken this approach with this article? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 18:16, 17 May 2009 (EDT)

:Yes. I think that if we do NOT have an article, it will just be created by some thoughtless soul, spoiling everyone. Having a clear placeholder that really gives nothing away that wasn't obvious in the trailer "Gee, that looks like an ancient Transformer artifact" will ''hopefully'' act as a buffer against this.
:I know it won't work, I know everyone is goign to be spoiled ''somehow'', but I'd like to ''try'' damnit. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:25, 17 May 2009 (EDT)
::I am amused by the idea that those who spoil are "thoughtless", while those who withhold the information from people who ''want to know'' (which is why... people go to Wikis in the first place) are somehow better. The point of a wiki is to convey information, and this article is a failure on all levels in conveying the information it's supposed to. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:36, 17 May 2009 (EDT)
:::I'm torn in the same way. But if 'supplying info to those who want it' was our primary imperative, we wouldn't have a ban on info from stolen prototypes and leaked episodes. I don't particularly ''care''-- I spoiled myself already, I'm just implementing what seems like the best solution I can think of, given TFWiki's existing conventions and policies. -[[User:Deceptitran|Deceptitran]] 18:47, 17 May 2009 (EDT)
::::Stolen prototypes are one thing, since details can change at a moment's notice (remember tan-nose Cyclonus?). They're not the final product. I didn't ''agree'' with banning information from the "leaked" episodes, but didn't bother speaking up because I knew nobody would agree with me. Both cases aren't official releases (well, I don't personally believe the leaked episodes fall under this, but I digress), while the novelization is. If it's something you can get in a store now, it should be fair game. If spoiling people is such a concern, then perhaps we can set up a system similar to marking minor edits. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 09:25, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
:::::Interrobang: I think the problem is that... the movie is kind of the definitive release, as it were. So while stuff like the novel/comic is technically an official source, we still might want to hold off (or at least heavily spoiler warn) until the definitive release comes out, since the chances are high that most people (including us editors) are going to wait until we can first experience the story via the movie. (Since the comic and novel are technically secondary adaptations anyway, rather than intended to be the primary release format for the story.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:30, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

''*facepalm*''

Why am I mucking about with CSS to hide it? I'll just have Deceptitran make the redirect. HIS edits are hidden by default. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:37, 17 May 2009 (EDT)
:Since when does Deceptitran have delete permissions, BTW? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:46, 17 May 2009 (EDT)
:(over an hour after I tried to send this, since the wiki went down. Again.) Also - you do realise that the protect log DOES show up on Recentchanges, if you want to lock the redirect, right? [Why aren't they hideable anyway, the way bots or minor edits are? Always bugged me, since a load of deletions/protections/uploads in one go can "spam" RC.].
:And you messed up the disambig - even if the ARG is enough to give it a movie 1 disambig rather than (ROTF) [which I'm sceptical about], it should be (Movie) not (movie), yes? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 20:17, 17 May 2009 (EDT)

Would it be a good idea for the page to be locked from any sort of editing until after the film's been released? Just a suggestion. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 20:21, 17 May 2009 (EDT)

I'm with Interrobang. This article is pretty much disinformation. "This article is about a character or concept that lacks a name." Bullcrap. Having intrusive spoilers on existing character pages... I can see how ''maybe'' the spoiler tag isn't good enough. But if there are new characters in the comic or novel, can we create a page for them? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:58, 21 May 2009 (EDT)
:''"This article is about a character or concept that lacks a name." Bullcrap.''
:Perhaps we should use the "coming soon" template instead, then? "More material/revisions to be posted as soon as it's the right time," in effect.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 14:06, 21 May 2009 (EDT)
::Yea, that's a better approach. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:50, 21 May 2009 (EDT)

Guys? Move page plz. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:47, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:I ''think'' we're waiting until Friday, when the mvoie premieres in the last major english-speaking markets. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:02, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::I would make the argument that people who do not want spoilers should know better than to look up a Wiki, but I think we're going around in circles. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:05, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

:::hey, ''I'' don't have any strong feelings on the matter. I'm not opposing a move.
:::I'm just telling you why I ''think'' it's not already been done. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:08, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

Ok, it's called the Matrix...and its in an article called Allspark Dagger. Can we just bow to logic and either movie it to the matirx article or rename it. The term Allspark dagger isn't even mentioned on the damn page!!!!! [[User:Eire|Eire]] 21.35 25 June 09 (UTC)

=== Category: Religion ===

It's a key to an Energon collecting machine. I don't think it belongs in the Religion category. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:08, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:It's the subject of centuries of Cybertronian myth and mysticism. How is it ''not'' a religious artifact?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:32, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::Not really. It is a key that is only entrusted to the leader of the Primes because it is used to activate a powerful machine capable of killing off a star system. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:55, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:::That's like saying that the Creation Matrix is just a means of bringing new Transformers online.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:17, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

=== Matrix of Leadership ===

OK, am I just being dense here? Wasn't this object called the [[Matrix of Leadership]] in the movie? If so, shouldn't this be a section in THAT article? If it was called something else in another media but it was describing the same thing, that should probably be a redirect, no? and if AllSpark Dagger was a fan-concocted title, then we wouldn't even need that, no? --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 10:05, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
: Yeah, it should. Our [[Matrix of Leadership]] page is currently crosscontinuity. So... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:06, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
::Alright, is there any discussion on this page that would need to be moved over there, or can this talkpage be nuked?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:31, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Maybe religion?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 21:12, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
::::Likely not. There can't really be any arguing on whether a cross-continuity Matrix article belongs in that category.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:16, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

I feel it worth noting that (owing to its role in the film) the fanon term "Matrix of Blowing Up the Goddamn [[Sun]]" has been suggested for the RotF artifact, by one film review that is currently being pasted in a lot of different sites. [[User:Banpei the Mini-Con|Banpei the Mini-Con]] 21:10, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:That ''is'' more descriptive. But alas, "Matrix of Leadership" is canon. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:16, 5 November 2009 (EST)

== In ROTF ==

Did the Matrix of Leadership Somehow give Optimus a vision of the past? In the novel and in the movie, he has a line to which he counters the Fallen that alludes to him knowing of the original primes, when he did seem to know of them before, right? Should this be noted on the article? It seems like, maybe, a plot point that was sort of forgotten, the importance of Optimus's ancestry. --[[Special:Contributions/205.250.176.157|205.250.176.157]] 00:50, 30 September 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Optimus Prime (Movie)

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205.250.176.157: /* Did the Matrix */

Prime's offical bio was released a few days ago. Shouldn't it go in here?

Read your talk page more often. Explanation was there. Suffice to say, posting the bio, word for word, is a no-no.--[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 11:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I never read my talk page. Who in their right mind would want to talk to me

The captions under the pictures in this article are inapropriate and rude {{unsigned|Pirakafreak24}}
:I'm sorry you lack a sense of humor. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

==Unreleased Toy?==
My friend recently sold me a "prototype Mcdonalds" O.P. for 4 bucks along with some other figures. Teletraan 1 does not have an entry on this odd toy, and I am gretly curious as to what the heck this toy is: [img]http://gallery.zealot.com/data/500/medium/000_0017.JPG[/img]

==Top image==
Derik, on-screen Movie characters need to have Dreamworks images at the top of their pages. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 21:18, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:...why? If a character appears in multiple media we seem to pick whatever shows the character off best. This book (being a retelling of the movie) probably isn't the best example, but if we got a great image of Prime by Geoff Senior in the UK Mag, can we never use that?
:(I'm not disagreeing that there ''is'' a good argument for reverting to the original picture,but I'm not sure I agree with your statement that Dreamworks renders are ''automatically'' the only acceptable main image. Frankly, I think a ''lot'' of Dreamworks images look bad when not in motion.)

-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:47, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

:Because we need the top-quality Dreamworks renders on every on-screen character's page in any case, and putting them on top creates consistency like a legitimate encyclopedia. You added a ''great'' image, but it belongs down further. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 21:50, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

::I still prefer that render of the actual CG model used in the movie than the low-res, low-detail promotional CG model render we're using now. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:59, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes, let us use that one. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 22:03, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

::::Apparently we can't. They decided that the movie design looked ugly and that was the end of discussion, evidently. I, on the other hand, think the lower-detail design from late 2005/2006 that the toys are based upon looks... incomplete (I mean the front of the hood just becomes these little nubs under his windows!) and not as visually impressive as the final version. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:10, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

:''Images removed''

I'm looking at these 4 images- and I'm really not seeing the huge differences between the designs of 2 and 3 that you're describing. Where does his hood go on #2 version that it doesn't in #3? #3 looks liek a rougher, simpler (better proportioned) model, but of the final design to me. And ''any'' way you cut it, i think #1 and #2 are the ''ugliest'' pictures in this lineup.

<nowiki>#</nowiki>1's shoulder is coming out of his crotch, for instance. If the final image misleads the eye about spatial relationships then it's ''badly composed''. The abstract knowledge that it is a 3d model and thus spatially perfect does not change the fact it it a terrible 2D image. #3 has displeasing proportions- and frankly is boring and inspiring, capturing none of Prime's character. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if it matters to anyone. But I prefer images 3 and 4. #1 is AWEFUL. #2 is boring. #3 is decent. #4 Is the best image, objectively, but of course isn't CGI.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 22:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
::It' not like we're locked into the CGI- we don't use it for [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]]'s main image. If anything we seem to like having [[Terrorsaur (BW)|some variety]] to the sources we use. That said- this ''is'' Prime, and I'd like to have a Dreamworks image if we could find one that doesn't suck. It's not like we're locked into 'Okay it MUST be one of the Dreamworks promo images,' or that any image we choose is permanent. Once the Blue-ray of the movie comes out we'll have lots of images to choose from (Not the mention the promised intermezzo story.)
::I happen to think [http://www.emopanda.com/tmp/we_are_waiting.jpg this] is a gorgeous image, and even though it's of Prime's back, it captures something central to his character, and unique to the Movie version, the decision to make Earth not just a second home like in every other continuity ever- but an ''only'' home. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:39, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

:What does the first picture have to do with anything? That's the old design anyway, and it seems most people hate that pose. The hood on the final model is more obviously hood-shaped and sits there on his torso. On the earlier design, they become red, for a lack of a better word, ''shapes''. It is, by comparison, a poor CG model to the actual movie one, and the only thing going for it is its HEROIC POSE. But I can already see that maintaining such a differing opinion will be to no avail. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
::You're all disdainful of the heoric pose. Why? Do you think that the main image should be lifeless and dead as long as it's correct? It's not like these are the only two renders of Prime out there. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:39, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

:::I'm not a fan of the model, not the pose. Those stupidly long blue things on his forearms appear to have been shorted or folded on the movie model. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:06, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

==Fiction==

Someone else had already added in some information from the prequel comics in the top paragraph, so I just rearranged it to the bottom with a spoiler tag. If we're not supposed to put fiction in yet, I'm sorry. -[[User:EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 14:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

== EW Interview canonical? ==

How do we want to treat the new Entertainment Weekly intereview with movie Prime? It was apparently written by the screenplay writers and was (likely?) approved by Hasbro to see print, does that make it official canon? We HAVE set a president of a sort by counting things like [[Toaster]] and the "ask vector prime" info, though those were from first party sources and this is in a second party source but was likely approved by first party? So, um yeah, is that official enough? I ask because though tounge-in-cheek it mentions things like movie Ratchet's wedding that might deserve a passing light-hearted mention on his page. If we are taking Toaster and Blaster's sister as cannon then is this any different? Thoughts? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 01:35, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
:I don't know how likely or not it was to have been Hasbro approved. Given how meta-jokingly it's written -- with Optimus and Megatron being actors who play Optimus and Megatron in the movie, Megatron being such a method actor it's best to avoid him when he's in-character because he might vaporize you -- I'm not really sure how to treat it as "canon."

:Also, I feel I must nitpickingly point out that, technically, the reference isn't to ''movie'' Ratchet's wedding, as that answer comes in response to a question about whether Optimus kept up with "his old Autobot buddies from the show," and we of course are treating the movie and G1 characters as separate entities. ;) --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:56, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

::I agree it's a tricky call, which is why I bring it up. I'd guess anything written by the screenwriters as promo for the movie in a major publication like EW would have had to have some kind of official OK/oversite. The "meta" side of it, being tounge in cheek and breaking the third wall and all that is an issue too, but at the same time we include things like the tounge-in-cheek, third-wall-breaking Botcon scripts, UK letters page, and ask Vector Prime which all proceed from similar footing. It's worth debate at least. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 03:08, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

In a similar vein, what about Sarah Silverman being a Transformer? All that MTV awards show shpiel had to have been approved at least by Dreamworks. It's no more ridiculous than any of the other examples listed above. Less funny, but that's Sarah Silverman for you. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 15:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

== OP's face ==

Should it be added in that Optimus will still have his retractable face plate as seen in earlier concept work (now confirmed by official screenshots) and that he looks a lot like a robotic Peter Cullin? [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 02:45, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== What went wrong? ==

What the fuck just happened? I edited the "Fast Action Battlers" section, and now it's fucked up! What did I do wrong? Does this Wiki have a mind of it's own, and it craves incorrect information, thus if I try to correct it it screws me over?

I honestly dont know either bud. I wish they would say SOMTHING more then what their saying about all of the Fast Action battlers. A wiki should be unbais. Btw: Since this is the talk page, I just thot I'd throw in an OPINION, but my OPINION is that I think Fast action Starscream, Ratchet, and Brawl are pretty close to the "real" versions of them, and a nice alternative when u wanna save a few bucks. (with the latter...the former..not so much, but its a nice alternative to him, and the cannon is more accurate)--[[User:Chipmonk3288|Chipmonk3288]]

== FAB and G1 prime two-pack ==
"For some reason the Classics Prime toy is designated "1984 Optimus Prime", even though he was released in 2006." I'd love to edit out this stupidity, but last time I tried it screwed up the format of the text. Can somebody tell me what I did wrong, or just fix the mistake themselves? --[[User:MrMania|Sav]] 10:57, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

:What's wrong with it? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 14:37, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

::And don't call my work stupid. I'm responsible for most of the toy sections on this wiki these days,and most are uncompromisingly 'straight' in comparison to the rest of this place. That was a moment of left-of-field levity - I was pointing out the fact a crappy G1 Prime toy from 2006 that sort of looks like G1 Prime is flogged as '1984 Prime' even though he ''technically'' isn't. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:49, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

:::It's meant to represent G1 Prime, and it does a fairly good job, because I think "g1" when I look at the toy. No matter, though, it seems to have been corrected.--[[User:MrMania|Sav]] 08:11, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

== Leader class figure factory irregular ==

I recently picked up a leader class prime and when I tried to transform it, one of its elbows wouldn't bend. at first I thought it was the screws, but upon closer inspection, the two arm parts had fused solid! is it my figure or a larger oversight on hasbros part?

== Peter cullen figure? ==

I want pics. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
: [http://tfkenkon.com/g/?mode=view&album=Collection%2Fact442&pic=movie_robot_vision_optimus_prime08.jpg&dispsize=1000&start=0 Bam.] [[User:70.55.207.104|70.55.207.104]] 09:38, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

==spare pic==
<nowiki>[[:Image:MovieOptimusPrime_promorender2.jpg|Old low-detail promo render pic]]</nowiki> --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:19, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

==Main pic==
How about we discuss it before changing the picture? Especially (as I pointed out in the image talk of render3), this old render picture is based on the outdated design. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:50, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:There's been more discussion on this ''somewhere'' where we went full-circle around ''this is not the final design / the final design has less pleasing proportions / there are no CGI images of the final design that doesn't look goofy''.
:Does anyone have the DK I-0can-read book 'Meet the Autobots'? The hand-illustrated image of Optimus Prime standing on Earth on the final page is (I think) the final design, and I think it'd make a ''fantastic'' main pic for the article. (Unfortunately I bought the guidebook instead, so... anyone want to scan?) -04:32, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
::Oh man, we totally ''need'' to have that picture on the article somewhere. It's fantastic. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 21:27, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:::In the book this images occurs (I think) ''after'' the closing monologue of the movie, with Optimus thinking that 'life is good' on his new home. Could it go at the end of the movie section? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:37, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:Can we change it now? There has got to be something better. How about [[:Image:Defiance4 coverA.jpg|this]] or [[:Image:Defiance4 coverA original.jpg|this]]. There used to be a ROTF poster of Prime out there. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:16, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
::Hearing no objection... - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]]
:::I think it would be badass if we used a screenshot of him cutting off Bonecrusher's head with the caption "Freedom is the right of all sentient be ... oh slag that."[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 15:30, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::::I think LG or one of the recent TV spots has a shot of Prime with his Ion Blaster out and about to shoot someone in the head (I guess). If we could get a good, clear shot of that, that would be awesome.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:08, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

== Siblings? ==

I know that OP calls Megatron "Brother" in the movie, but are they actually siblings, or was Optimus speaking metaphorically (as Optimi tend to do)? If it's stated in the prequel comics, that's fine, but if it's only from one line in the movie I have to contend it. -[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 16:37, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, they are siblings. Its in the comics, kids books, novelisation ect, as I understand it. They toned down the reference to that one line in the movie for some reason, as the references were apparently more prevalent in the older draft. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

:I thought he was just having a Hulk Hogan momemt. -- [[User:69.182.245.28|69.182.245.28]] 06:31, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== His father ==
So one of the video games has a cutscene where Optimus says to Jazz that Megatron "took my father's spark". Did Activision bother to give the brothers' father a NAME in any of the games? -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 00:59, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
:Not the console version.--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 01:59, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

== Another fun addition ==

I added basic information about the new "First Strike" Prime. Should be enough to suffice.

== Videos mentioned in the trivia section... ==

I've only found poor quality videos from YouTube of that Burger King and the MTV thing - do higher res/quality ones exist? (And should we put links in so people can see them? I honestly didn't know about them until I read the page).

== Giftcard and DVD Case Primes ==

Okay, I've hot a question... The Target giftcard and DVD cases that unfold into flat versions of Optimus Prime... Do they belong in the Merchandise section, and if so, does anyone have decent pictures of them? --[[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] 18:35, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Rearranging the toy list? ==

Should we rearrange the toy list sorted by molds? Currently it's a mess, it doesn't even exactly follow the release order; and even though Robo-Vision Prime ''was'' released ''after'' regular Voyager Prime, having them listed in this order and then calling Robo-Vision Prime a "redeco" of Voyager Prime is kinda iffy.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 21:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
: So. Any objections to this?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 11:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
::Robo-Vision Prime preceded Voyager Prime by a very hefty margin. Technically Voyager Prime's the redeco here.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:07, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

==Voyager Class shoulder cannons?==

Ok, I bought First Strike Optimus and I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get his shoulder cannons to lower. I thought they would work like Classics Optimus but they don't. Whats the trick to getting this to work?{{unsigned|68.45.124.176}}

==Mouthplate==

Is it worth to note that he's only shown(as far as i know) without his mouthplate ONLY in the movie?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 21:39, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
: There's a Robot Heroes figure without the mouthplate. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
::And he's in a Burger King commercial without the mouthplate, too.[[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 13:15, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

==dashes==

For eff's sake, I'm not TRYING to change the dashes - I don't care what they look like, I don't care which kind you use, I don't care if every page on the wiki uses tildes and umlauts instead of real punctuation. it '''happens automatically on these "this page may be too big" pages,''' which seems to be the point Interrobang missed. Once again: It's not intentional; it just happens. I don't know why, so I can't fix it. But by that same token, would you quit just plain old reverting the edit? The other stuff is minor, but it's not irrelevant - at least, not as irrelevant as it could be. It's on-topic with the subjects it's in. So by all means, please, fix th dashes that I've screwed up - but stop reverting the other bits. Please? Yeesh![[User:71.207.12.70|71.207.12.70]] 07:11, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
:You seem to be ignoring the fact that I consider your actual additions minor and unnecessary. Regardless, "it happens automatically on these "this page may be too big" pages" makes very little sense, considering that it isn't consistent on whether it replaces the em dashes with "hyphen-hyphen-space" or "space-hyphen-space". [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 09:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
::Hey, beats me—I'm no Firefox programmer. But just because you consider my additions unnecessary, it doesn't mean they actually are. Yeah, they're minor—I said as much. But unnecessary? Your opinion. Which you're only acting upon, I'd wager, because you're in a snit about the dashes. Am I wrong?[[User:71.207.12.70|71.207.12.70]] 05:25, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

== Premium Prime Eyes ==

Will they glow blue instead of yellow like the original Leader toy? If they do, it needs to be mentioned. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 13:24, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:the box shows blue, but it is still yellow unfortunately--[[User:Skyglide|Skyglide]] 19:07, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

== Red is Hard To Film? ==
In the 1970's TV show "Emergency!" featured many red fire trucks and the crew did not special measures to film them. Therefore, red is not a hard color to film.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency! [[User:Liberal Noob|Liberal Noob]] 01:33, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
:I'm sure this isn't the only example of red vehicles ever being filmed. But Emergency!, being a TV show, was probably filmed on video, and not on... you know, film. I don't know whether red vehicles being hard to film is some weird general thing I'd never heard of before this movie, or whether it has something to do with the special effects, but I'll take the professionals' word for it.
::When I heard that in the commentary, I asked somebody who films stuff, and they said it's hard to get it to look consistantly the same color. He also said lighting can make it look very orange at times. --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 04:01, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
:::In my meager experience with Shake and film editing, I know red can be a bitch to color correct.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
It seems I have been misinformed. Thank you all for the clarification. [[User:Liberal Noob|Liberal Noob]] 17:44, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

== Why were my edits removed? ==

Peter Cullen did say that.
I was just trying to make the images work better. [[User:208.190.203.162|208.190.203.162]] 23:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

== Shall I include to this page? y/n ==
Someone got arrested at an airport for wearing a TF2007 Optimus Prime T-shirt? [[http://gizmodo.com/394544/optimus-prime-t+shirt-transforms-into-arrest-threat-at-airport source]] [[User:Liberal Noob|Liberal Noob]] 21:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:I think it's fun trivia, especially if you contrast it with the fact that Megatron's always been the perceived [[For safety reasons|safety hazard]]. I'd link to [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7431640.stm this BBC article] instead, though, since it's a more mainstream, firsthand source. Also, he wasn't actually arrested. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 22:13, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

== Prime's Great Plan ==

Acknowledging that yes, the entry ''is'' fairly tongue-in-cheek to begin with, is the last trivia bit really fair? Obviously, Megatron was powerful, and nothing we'd want tromping around Earth any longer than he had to be. Without the All Spark for which he came to Earth to begin with, though, I don't recall him having the power to obliterate Earth. In fact, between the remaining Autobots and their good friends in the U.S. military, who showed during the battle of Mission City that no, not even Megatron was not invulnerable against heavy weapons fire... well, I'm hesitant to call the outcome either way, but it doesn't like the kind of foregone conclusion/idiotic plan the entry makes it out to be. Any thoughts? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 04:41, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

==Seen ROTF, want to change main caption SO BAD==
To "I will cut off your face!" It's especially awesome with our new main image. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:35, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

* On that subject, if this continuity's Optimus is a violent rebel, does that mean his [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]] equivalent is a benign dictator? [[Special:Contributions/82.41.72.10|82.41.72.10]] 05:39, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:Nah, he's a decadant Nero-like emperor. <tt>Freedom is the right of all sentient beings... in bed.</tt> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:41, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:That is so Prime! I kinda like this violent bloodthirsty Prime.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 07:53, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

== Introduction ==

Should we change the introduction to reflect current continuity as established in [[Transformers: Defiance|Defiance]], or just keep it as it is? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 01:24, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:I'd favor scrapping this intro altogether and starting anew. Intro notes aren't supposed to be summaries of events like this, theyr'e suppsoed to be about the character's personality, connections abilities etc.
:When the movie first came out, the only thing that set him apart from the other Optimus Primes was his backstory. Since then he's developed his own personality quite a bit. He's speechier than the original Prime, and fightier. (And crazier. I think he's still Abraham Lincoln + John Wayne... but his Wayne side is from ''The Searchers''.)
:The brother stuff needs to be relegated to trivia too-- it got cut from the 2007 movie itself, and the 2009 movie seems to throw it out altogether. It's a teardown-and-redo. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:47, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

== Trailer super mode ==
It appears that Prime at some point in production of ROTF would get a trailer, and would combine with it to get a [[Super Mode]]: http://www.joshnizzi.com/oproughs.html --[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 13:35, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
:That's [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire's]] parts he's combined with. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 22:19, 28 July 2009 (EDT)
::That's not Jetfire. It says 'Trailer Suit'. Jetfire is not a trailer! [[User:Gearshift|Gearshift]] 14:50, 29 July 2009 (EDT)

== Prime and faces ==

Movieverse Optimus Prime seems to have a habit of ripping his opponents' faces off. Should we list this as a trait? [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 22:17, 28 July 2009 (EDT)
:The 'GIVE ME YOUR FACE' joke in the image captions is getting annoying and repetitive. What should be done about it? [[Special:Contributions/81.155.131.13|81.155.131.13]] 06:05, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

The "GIVE ME YOUR FACE" joke is hilarious and makes my day.

Seconded. Also, sign your posts. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 03:43, 6 September 2009 (EDT)
:It's already in the trivia and the joke stays.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:56, 6 September 2009 (EDT)
::Good. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 05:05, 6 September 2009 (EDT)

== I have a massive gallery if anybody wants screencaps from both movies. ==

Optimus has some of the best facial expressions, but they go by SO fast.

Anyway, I have a huge gallery of over 200 Optimus movie screencaps from both films. They're up for grabs if anybody wants to use them in articles or whatever.

http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/24a8bf8847330ed806d929dbf28b6627/

[[User:CH|CH]] 17:06, 23 November 2009 (EST)
==Make Optimus Prime Talk==
Remember that contest where "do a barrel roll!" won but Hasbro chickened out of using it? Where's the page for that.{{unsigned|24.192.196.242}}
:[[Make Prime Speak|Right here]]. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 18:08, 27 July 2010 (EDT)

==Bio==
Think it needs updating to bring in the Foundation and Rising Storm character elements? [[User:Eire]] 16.09 (BST) 28 May 2011

== Trailer/Flight..., thing? ==

Do we have an article for his DOTM... thing?

The DOTM novelization calls it his "weapons pack" (p352,) but also notes that the "flight equipment" (p356) is it's "true form" as opposed to the trailer or weapons base modes.

The Junior Novel uses "flight harness" and "mobile battle kit", which I find vastly preferable unless we have more official terms. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:53, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
:To throw another one in, it's an Armored Weapons Platform in the [[Cyberverse]]. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:01, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
::Armored Weapons Platform is a proper noun unlike the others, and it's a sensible term.
::What do you think, [[Armored Weapons Platform]] converts to trailer and flight harness? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:38, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
:::It's far from clear that all the things that transform out of Prime's trailer are the exact same trailer. And the Ultimate Prime's armor is called the Omega Combat Armor, as I recall...which is of course the same trailer in trailer mode as the rest of them. I assume the "mobile battle kit" specifically refers to the armory mode, but it seems like the most generic of these official terms. -[[User:LV|LV]] 18:30, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
::::The Mobile Battle Kit phrase does indeed come from the Chernobyl sequence of the Jr. Novel when it unfolds into that armory-ring.
::::Is there a decent shot of the trailer in one of the officially released, um... ''trailers'' or commercials? Otherwise I'm going to nab one from the video game launch trailer. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:41, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

== Did the Matrix of Leadership ==

Somehow give Optimus a vision of the past? In the novel and in the movie, he has a line to which he counters the Fallen that alludes to him knowing of the original primes, when he did seem to know of them before, right? Should this be noted on the article? It seems like, maybe, a plot point that was sort of forgotten, the importance of Optimus's ancestry. --[[Special:Contributions/205.250.176.157|205.250.176.157]] 00:50, 30 September 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Optimus Prime (Movie)

2012-09-30T04:50:32Z

205.250.176.157: /* Did the Matrix */ new section

Prime's offical bio was released a few days ago. Shouldn't it go in here?

Read your talk page more often. Explanation was there. Suffice to say, posting the bio, word for word, is a no-no.--[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 11:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I never read my talk page. Who in their right mind would want to talk to me

The captions under the pictures in this article are inapropriate and rude {{unsigned|Pirakafreak24}}
:I'm sorry you lack a sense of humor. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

==Unreleased Toy?==
My friend recently sold me a "prototype Mcdonalds" O.P. for 4 bucks along with some other figures. Teletraan 1 does not have an entry on this odd toy, and I am gretly curious as to what the heck this toy is: [img]http://gallery.zealot.com/data/500/medium/000_0017.JPG[/img]

==Top image==
Derik, on-screen Movie characters need to have Dreamworks images at the top of their pages. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 21:18, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:...why? If a character appears in multiple media we seem to pick whatever shows the character off best. This book (being a retelling of the movie) probably isn't the best example, but if we got a great image of Prime by Geoff Senior in the UK Mag, can we never use that?
:(I'm not disagreeing that there ''is'' a good argument for reverting to the original picture,but I'm not sure I agree with your statement that Dreamworks renders are ''automatically'' the only acceptable main image. Frankly, I think a ''lot'' of Dreamworks images look bad when not in motion.)

-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:47, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

:Because we need the top-quality Dreamworks renders on every on-screen character's page in any case, and putting them on top creates consistency like a legitimate encyclopedia. You added a ''great'' image, but it belongs down further. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 21:50, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

::I still prefer that render of the actual CG model used in the movie than the low-res, low-detail promotional CG model render we're using now. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:59, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

:::Yes, let us use that one. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 22:03, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

::::Apparently we can't. They decided that the movie design looked ugly and that was the end of discussion, evidently. I, on the other hand, think the lower-detail design from late 2005/2006 that the toys are based upon looks... incomplete (I mean the front of the hood just becomes these little nubs under his windows!) and not as visually impressive as the final version. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:10, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

:''Images removed''

I'm looking at these 4 images- and I'm really not seeing the huge differences between the designs of 2 and 3 that you're describing. Where does his hood go on #2 version that it doesn't in #3? #3 looks liek a rougher, simpler (better proportioned) model, but of the final design to me. And ''any'' way you cut it, i think #1 and #2 are the ''ugliest'' pictures in this lineup.

<nowiki>#</nowiki>1's shoulder is coming out of his crotch, for instance. If the final image misleads the eye about spatial relationships then it's ''badly composed''. The abstract knowledge that it is a 3d model and thus spatially perfect does not change the fact it it a terrible 2D image. #3 has displeasing proportions- and frankly is boring and inspiring, capturing none of Prime's character. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if it matters to anyone. But I prefer images 3 and 4. #1 is AWEFUL. #2 is boring. #3 is decent. #4 Is the best image, objectively, but of course isn't CGI.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 22:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
::It' not like we're locked into the CGI- we don't use it for [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]]'s main image. If anything we seem to like having [[Terrorsaur (BW)|some variety]] to the sources we use. That said- this ''is'' Prime, and I'd like to have a Dreamworks image if we could find one that doesn't suck. It's not like we're locked into 'Okay it MUST be one of the Dreamworks promo images,' or that any image we choose is permanent. Once the Blue-ray of the movie comes out we'll have lots of images to choose from (Not the mention the promised intermezzo story.)
::I happen to think [http://www.emopanda.com/tmp/we_are_waiting.jpg this] is a gorgeous image, and even though it's of Prime's back, it captures something central to his character, and unique to the Movie version, the decision to make Earth not just a second home like in every other continuity ever- but an ''only'' home. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:39, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

:What does the first picture have to do with anything? That's the old design anyway, and it seems most people hate that pose. The hood on the final model is more obviously hood-shaped and sits there on his torso. On the earlier design, they become red, for a lack of a better word, ''shapes''. It is, by comparison, a poor CG model to the actual movie one, and the only thing going for it is its HEROIC POSE. But I can already see that maintaining such a differing opinion will be to no avail. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
::You're all disdainful of the heoric pose. Why? Do you think that the main image should be lifeless and dead as long as it's correct? It's not like these are the only two renders of Prime out there. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:39, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

:::I'm not a fan of the model, not the pose. Those stupidly long blue things on his forearms appear to have been shorted or folded on the movie model. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:06, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

==Fiction==

Someone else had already added in some information from the prequel comics in the top paragraph, so I just rearranged it to the bottom with a spoiler tag. If we're not supposed to put fiction in yet, I'm sorry. -[[User:EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 14:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

== EW Interview canonical? ==

How do we want to treat the new Entertainment Weekly intereview with movie Prime? It was apparently written by the screenplay writers and was (likely?) approved by Hasbro to see print, does that make it official canon? We HAVE set a president of a sort by counting things like [[Toaster]] and the "ask vector prime" info, though those were from first party sources and this is in a second party source but was likely approved by first party? So, um yeah, is that official enough? I ask because though tounge-in-cheek it mentions things like movie Ratchet's wedding that might deserve a passing light-hearted mention on his page. If we are taking Toaster and Blaster's sister as cannon then is this any different? Thoughts? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 01:35, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
:I don't know how likely or not it was to have been Hasbro approved. Given how meta-jokingly it's written -- with Optimus and Megatron being actors who play Optimus and Megatron in the movie, Megatron being such a method actor it's best to avoid him when he's in-character because he might vaporize you -- I'm not really sure how to treat it as "canon."

:Also, I feel I must nitpickingly point out that, technically, the reference isn't to ''movie'' Ratchet's wedding, as that answer comes in response to a question about whether Optimus kept up with "his old Autobot buddies from the show," and we of course are treating the movie and G1 characters as separate entities. ;) --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:56, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

::I agree it's a tricky call, which is why I bring it up. I'd guess anything written by the screenwriters as promo for the movie in a major publication like EW would have had to have some kind of official OK/oversite. The "meta" side of it, being tounge in cheek and breaking the third wall and all that is an issue too, but at the same time we include things like the tounge-in-cheek, third-wall-breaking Botcon scripts, UK letters page, and ask Vector Prime which all proceed from similar footing. It's worth debate at least. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 03:08, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

In a similar vein, what about Sarah Silverman being a Transformer? All that MTV awards show shpiel had to have been approved at least by Dreamworks. It's no more ridiculous than any of the other examples listed above. Less funny, but that's Sarah Silverman for you. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 15:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

== OP's face ==

Should it be added in that Optimus will still have his retractable face plate as seen in earlier concept work (now confirmed by official screenshots) and that he looks a lot like a robotic Peter Cullin? [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 02:45, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== What went wrong? ==

What the fuck just happened? I edited the "Fast Action Battlers" section, and now it's fucked up! What did I do wrong? Does this Wiki have a mind of it's own, and it craves incorrect information, thus if I try to correct it it screws me over?

I honestly dont know either bud. I wish they would say SOMTHING more then what their saying about all of the Fast Action battlers. A wiki should be unbais. Btw: Since this is the talk page, I just thot I'd throw in an OPINION, but my OPINION is that I think Fast action Starscream, Ratchet, and Brawl are pretty close to the "real" versions of them, and a nice alternative when u wanna save a few bucks. (with the latter...the former..not so much, but its a nice alternative to him, and the cannon is more accurate)--[[User:Chipmonk3288|Chipmonk3288]]

== FAB and G1 prime two-pack ==
"For some reason the Classics Prime toy is designated "1984 Optimus Prime", even though he was released in 2006." I'd love to edit out this stupidity, but last time I tried it screwed up the format of the text. Can somebody tell me what I did wrong, or just fix the mistake themselves? --[[User:MrMania|Sav]] 10:57, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

:What's wrong with it? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 14:37, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

::And don't call my work stupid. I'm responsible for most of the toy sections on this wiki these days,and most are uncompromisingly 'straight' in comparison to the rest of this place. That was a moment of left-of-field levity - I was pointing out the fact a crappy G1 Prime toy from 2006 that sort of looks like G1 Prime is flogged as '1984 Prime' even though he ''technically'' isn't. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:49, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

:::It's meant to represent G1 Prime, and it does a fairly good job, because I think "g1" when I look at the toy. No matter, though, it seems to have been corrected.--[[User:MrMania|Sav]] 08:11, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

== Leader class figure factory irregular ==

I recently picked up a leader class prime and when I tried to transform it, one of its elbows wouldn't bend. at first I thought it was the screws, but upon closer inspection, the two arm parts had fused solid! is it my figure or a larger oversight on hasbros part?

== Peter cullen figure? ==

I want pics. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
: [http://tfkenkon.com/g/?mode=view&album=Collection%2Fact442&pic=movie_robot_vision_optimus_prime08.jpg&dispsize=1000&start=0 Bam.] [[User:70.55.207.104|70.55.207.104]] 09:38, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

==spare pic==
<nowiki>[[:Image:MovieOptimusPrime_promorender2.jpg|Old low-detail promo render pic]]</nowiki> --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:19, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

==Main pic==
How about we discuss it before changing the picture? Especially (as I pointed out in the image talk of render3), this old render picture is based on the outdated design. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:50, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:There's been more discussion on this ''somewhere'' where we went full-circle around ''this is not the final design / the final design has less pleasing proportions / there are no CGI images of the final design that doesn't look goofy''.
:Does anyone have the DK I-0can-read book 'Meet the Autobots'? The hand-illustrated image of Optimus Prime standing on Earth on the final page is (I think) the final design, and I think it'd make a ''fantastic'' main pic for the article. (Unfortunately I bought the guidebook instead, so... anyone want to scan?) -04:32, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
::Oh man, we totally ''need'' to have that picture on the article somewhere. It's fantastic. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 21:27, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:::In the book this images occurs (I think) ''after'' the closing monologue of the movie, with Optimus thinking that 'life is good' on his new home. Could it go at the end of the movie section? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:37, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:Can we change it now? There has got to be something better. How about [[:Image:Defiance4 coverA.jpg|this]] or [[:Image:Defiance4 coverA original.jpg|this]]. There used to be a ROTF poster of Prime out there. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:16, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
::Hearing no objection... - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]]
:::I think it would be badass if we used a screenshot of him cutting off Bonecrusher's head with the caption "Freedom is the right of all sentient be ... oh slag that."[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 15:30, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::::I think LG or one of the recent TV spots has a shot of Prime with his Ion Blaster out and about to shoot someone in the head (I guess). If we could get a good, clear shot of that, that would be awesome.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:08, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

== Siblings? ==

I know that OP calls Megatron "Brother" in the movie, but are they actually siblings, or was Optimus speaking metaphorically (as Optimi tend to do)? If it's stated in the prequel comics, that's fine, but if it's only from one line in the movie I have to contend it. -[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 16:37, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, they are siblings. Its in the comics, kids books, novelisation ect, as I understand it. They toned down the reference to that one line in the movie for some reason, as the references were apparently more prevalent in the older draft. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

:I thought he was just having a Hulk Hogan momemt. -- [[User:69.182.245.28|69.182.245.28]] 06:31, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== His father ==
So one of the video games has a cutscene where Optimus says to Jazz that Megatron "took my father's spark". Did Activision bother to give the brothers' father a NAME in any of the games? -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 00:59, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
:Not the console version.--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 01:59, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

== Another fun addition ==

I added basic information about the new "First Strike" Prime. Should be enough to suffice.

== Videos mentioned in the trivia section... ==

I've only found poor quality videos from YouTube of that Burger King and the MTV thing - do higher res/quality ones exist? (And should we put links in so people can see them? I honestly didn't know about them until I read the page).

== Giftcard and DVD Case Primes ==

Okay, I've hot a question... The Target giftcard and DVD cases that unfold into flat versions of Optimus Prime... Do they belong in the Merchandise section, and if so, does anyone have decent pictures of them? --[[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] 18:35, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Rearranging the toy list? ==

Should we rearrange the toy list sorted by molds? Currently it's a mess, it doesn't even exactly follow the release order; and even though Robo-Vision Prime ''was'' released ''after'' regular Voyager Prime, having them listed in this order and then calling Robo-Vision Prime a "redeco" of Voyager Prime is kinda iffy.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 21:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
: So. Any objections to this?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 11:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
::Robo-Vision Prime preceded Voyager Prime by a very hefty margin. Technically Voyager Prime's the redeco here.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:07, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

==Voyager Class shoulder cannons?==

Ok, I bought First Strike Optimus and I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get his shoulder cannons to lower. I thought they would work like Classics Optimus but they don't. Whats the trick to getting this to work?{{unsigned|68.45.124.176}}

==Mouthplate==

Is it worth to note that he's only shown(as far as i know) without his mouthplate ONLY in the movie?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 21:39, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
: There's a Robot Heroes figure without the mouthplate. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
::And he's in a Burger King commercial without the mouthplate, too.[[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 13:15, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

==dashes==

For eff's sake, I'm not TRYING to change the dashes - I don't care what they look like, I don't care which kind you use, I don't care if every page on the wiki uses tildes and umlauts instead of real punctuation. it '''happens automatically on these "this page may be too big" pages,''' which seems to be the point Interrobang missed. Once again: It's not intentional; it just happens. I don't know why, so I can't fix it. But by that same token, would you quit just plain old reverting the edit? The other stuff is minor, but it's not irrelevant - at least, not as irrelevant as it could be. It's on-topic with the subjects it's in. So by all means, please, fix th dashes that I've screwed up - but stop reverting the other bits. Please? Yeesh![[User:71.207.12.70|71.207.12.70]] 07:11, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
:You seem to be ignoring the fact that I consider your actual additions minor and unnecessary. Regardless, "it happens automatically on these "this page may be too big" pages" makes very little sense, considering that it isn't consistent on whether it replaces the em dashes with "hyphen-hyphen-space" or "space-hyphen-space". [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 09:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
::Hey, beats me—I'm no Firefox programmer. But just because you consider my additions unnecessary, it doesn't mean they actually are. Yeah, they're minor—I said as much. But unnecessary? Your opinion. Which you're only acting upon, I'd wager, because you're in a snit about the dashes. Am I wrong?[[User:71.207.12.70|71.207.12.70]] 05:25, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

== Premium Prime Eyes ==

Will they glow blue instead of yellow like the original Leader toy? If they do, it needs to be mentioned. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 13:24, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
:the box shows blue, but it is still yellow unfortunately--[[User:Skyglide|Skyglide]] 19:07, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

== Red is Hard To Film? ==
In the 1970's TV show "Emergency!" featured many red fire trucks and the crew did not special measures to film them. Therefore, red is not a hard color to film.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency! [[User:Liberal Noob|Liberal Noob]] 01:33, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
:I'm sure this isn't the only example of red vehicles ever being filmed. But Emergency!, being a TV show, was probably filmed on video, and not on... you know, film. I don't know whether red vehicles being hard to film is some weird general thing I'd never heard of before this movie, or whether it has something to do with the special effects, but I'll take the professionals' word for it.
::When I heard that in the commentary, I asked somebody who films stuff, and they said it's hard to get it to look consistantly the same color. He also said lighting can make it look very orange at times. --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 04:01, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
:::In my meager experience with Shake and film editing, I know red can be a bitch to color correct.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
It seems I have been misinformed. Thank you all for the clarification. [[User:Liberal Noob|Liberal Noob]] 17:44, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

== Why were my edits removed? ==

Peter Cullen did say that.
I was just trying to make the images work better. [[User:208.190.203.162|208.190.203.162]] 23:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

== Shall I include to this page? y/n ==
Someone got arrested at an airport for wearing a TF2007 Optimus Prime T-shirt? [[http://gizmodo.com/394544/optimus-prime-t+shirt-transforms-into-arrest-threat-at-airport source]] [[User:Liberal Noob|Liberal Noob]] 21:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
:I think it's fun trivia, especially if you contrast it with the fact that Megatron's always been the perceived [[For safety reasons|safety hazard]]. I'd link to [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7431640.stm this BBC article] instead, though, since it's a more mainstream, firsthand source. Also, he wasn't actually arrested. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 22:13, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

== Prime's Great Plan ==

Acknowledging that yes, the entry ''is'' fairly tongue-in-cheek to begin with, is the last trivia bit really fair? Obviously, Megatron was powerful, and nothing we'd want tromping around Earth any longer than he had to be. Without the All Spark for which he came to Earth to begin with, though, I don't recall him having the power to obliterate Earth. In fact, between the remaining Autobots and their good friends in the U.S. military, who showed during the battle of Mission City that no, not even Megatron was not invulnerable against heavy weapons fire... well, I'm hesitant to call the outcome either way, but it doesn't like the kind of foregone conclusion/idiotic plan the entry makes it out to be. Any thoughts? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 04:41, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

==Seen ROTF, want to change main caption SO BAD==
To "I will cut off your face!" It's especially awesome with our new main image. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:35, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

* On that subject, if this continuity's Optimus is a violent rebel, does that mean his [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]] equivalent is a benign dictator? [[Special:Contributions/82.41.72.10|82.41.72.10]] 05:39, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:Nah, he's a decadant Nero-like emperor. <tt>Freedom is the right of all sentient beings... in bed.</tt> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:41, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:That is so Prime! I kinda like this violent bloodthirsty Prime.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 07:53, 26 June 2009 (EDT)

== Introduction ==

Should we change the introduction to reflect current continuity as established in [[Transformers: Defiance|Defiance]], or just keep it as it is? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 01:24, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:I'd favor scrapping this intro altogether and starting anew. Intro notes aren't supposed to be summaries of events like this, theyr'e suppsoed to be about the character's personality, connections abilities etc.
:When the movie first came out, the only thing that set him apart from the other Optimus Primes was his backstory. Since then he's developed his own personality quite a bit. He's speechier than the original Prime, and fightier. (And crazier. I think he's still Abraham Lincoln + John Wayne... but his Wayne side is from ''The Searchers''.)
:The brother stuff needs to be relegated to trivia too-- it got cut from the 2007 movie itself, and the 2009 movie seems to throw it out altogether. It's a teardown-and-redo. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:47, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

== Trailer super mode ==
It appears that Prime at some point in production of ROTF would get a trailer, and would combine with it to get a [[Super Mode]]: http://www.joshnizzi.com/oproughs.html --[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 13:35, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
:That's [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire's]] parts he's combined with. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 22:19, 28 July 2009 (EDT)
::That's not Jetfire. It says 'Trailer Suit'. Jetfire is not a trailer! [[User:Gearshift|Gearshift]] 14:50, 29 July 2009 (EDT)

== Prime and faces ==

Movieverse Optimus Prime seems to have a habit of ripping his opponents' faces off. Should we list this as a trait? [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 22:17, 28 July 2009 (EDT)
:The 'GIVE ME YOUR FACE' joke in the image captions is getting annoying and repetitive. What should be done about it? [[Special:Contributions/81.155.131.13|81.155.131.13]] 06:05, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

The "GIVE ME YOUR FACE" joke is hilarious and makes my day.

Seconded. Also, sign your posts. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 03:43, 6 September 2009 (EDT)
:It's already in the trivia and the joke stays.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:56, 6 September 2009 (EDT)
::Good. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 05:05, 6 September 2009 (EDT)

== I have a massive gallery if anybody wants screencaps from both movies. ==

Optimus has some of the best facial expressions, but they go by SO fast.

Anyway, I have a huge gallery of over 200 Optimus movie screencaps from both films. They're up for grabs if anybody wants to use them in articles or whatever.

http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/24a8bf8847330ed806d929dbf28b6627/

[[User:CH|CH]] 17:06, 23 November 2009 (EST)
==Make Optimus Prime Talk==
Remember that contest where "do a barrel roll!" won but Hasbro chickened out of using it? Where's the page for that.{{unsigned|24.192.196.242}}
:[[Make Prime Speak|Right here]]. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 18:08, 27 July 2010 (EDT)

==Bio==
Think it needs updating to bring in the Foundation and Rising Storm character elements? [[User:Eire]] 16.09 (BST) 28 May 2011

== Trailer/Flight..., thing? ==

Do we have an article for his DOTM... thing?

The DOTM novelization calls it his "weapons pack" (p352,) but also notes that the "flight equipment" (p356) is it's "true form" as opposed to the trailer or weapons base modes.

The Junior Novel uses "flight harness" and "mobile battle kit", which I find vastly preferable unless we have more official terms. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:53, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
:To throw another one in, it's an Armored Weapons Platform in the [[Cyberverse]]. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:01, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
::Armored Weapons Platform is a proper noun unlike the others, and it's a sensible term.
::What do you think, [[Armored Weapons Platform]] converts to trailer and flight harness? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:38, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
:::It's far from clear that all the things that transform out of Prime's trailer are the exact same trailer. And the Ultimate Prime's armor is called the Omega Combat Armor, as I recall...which is of course the same trailer in trailer mode as the rest of them. I assume the "mobile battle kit" specifically refers to the armory mode, but it seems like the most generic of these official terms. -[[User:LV|LV]] 18:30, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
::::The Mobile Battle Kit phrase does indeed come from the Chernobyl sequence of the Jr. Novel when it unfolds into that armory-ring.
::::Is there a decent shot of the trailer in one of the officially released, um... ''trailers'' or commercials? Otherwise I'm going to nab one from the video game launch trailer. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:41, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

== Did the Matrix ==

somehow give Optimus a vision of the past? In the novel and in the movie, he has a line to which he counters the Fallen that alludes to him knowing of the original primes, when he did seem to know of them before, right? Should this be noted on the article? It seems like, maybe, a plot point that was sort of forgotten, the importance of Optimus's ancestry. --[[Special:Contributions/205.250.176.157|205.250.176.157]] 00:50, 30 September 2012 (EDT)

Crankcase (DOTM)

2012-09-30T04:42:53Z

205.250.176.157: /* Dark of the Moon film */

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:''Crankcase is a [[Decepticon]] [[Dread (DOTM)| Dread]] from the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (franchise)|Dark of the Moon]] portion of the [[live-action film series]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:DOTMCrankcase.jpg|right|thumb|250px|The hunt has begun...]]

A rarity among Decepticons, '''Crankcase''' is known for his subtle and shadowy nature, though it would be a mistake not to see him as a threat. A member of the elite [[Dread (DOTM)|Dreads]], the Decepticon’s top infiltration and assassination team, his specialty is hacking, data theft, and destructive sabotage of vital systems.

==Fiction==
===''Dark of the Moon'' adaptations===

When [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] was being retrieved from [[Earth]]'s [[Moon (moon)|Moon]], [[Hatchet]], [[Crowbar]], and Crankcase surfaced quietly and secretly hitched a ride on the Autobots' shuttle back to Earth. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (novel)|Dark of the Moon}} {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon Movie Adaptation|Dark of the Moon Movie adaptation}}

===''Dark of the Moon'' film===

[[Image:Dotm Crankcase standoff.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Ironhide probably could have shot him about now and saved all that trouble of being stabbed.]]

After [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] was retrieved from [[Earth]]'s [[Moon (moon)|Moon]] and reactivated, [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] put into motion the plan that had been waiting in the wings for hundreds of years. With the [[human]] [[Sam Witwicky]] believing that the Decepticons wished to capture Sentinel and force him to use the control pillar to activate his space bridge, Crankcase, [[Hatchet]] and [[Crowbar]] were sent to pursue the Autobots. Crowbar closed in on [[Seymour Simmons|Seymour Simmons']] car, transformed, reached in and tossed the former [[Sector Seven]] agent behind him as he bounded ahead to knock over a highway sign for the other two to use as a ramp.

[[Image:DOTM-crankcasespeared.jpg|right|thumb|250px|This was one facial piercing I didn't want!]]
However, despite their best collective efforts to slow down the Autobots, Hatchet was quickly destroyed, and the remaining Dreads were soon confronted by the Autobot heavy-hitter, [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]], who stopped them in their tracks with a head-on collision. Faced with Ironhide's heavy weapons and [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]], the Dreads seemingly capitulated by dropping their ranged weapons, but as soon as the Autobots followed suit, deployed spears to attack their enemies. His partner was initially successful in injuring Ironhide, and Crankcase kicked Sideswipe to the ground, but he was destroyed when Ironhide forced Crowbar's spear through his head, slammed the Decepticon's body into an abandoned car, and kicked the wreckage into a nearby auto shop, which exploded. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: Dark of the Moon - The Game''===
====(Xbox 360/PS3)====
Crankcase is available in multiplayer as a Decepticon scout. His main weapon is a weak version of the assault rifle, and his special abilities are dual assault rifles, and an orbital beacon which puts a target sign on every enemy on the battlefield. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Xbox 360/PS3)| Dark of the Moon}}

==Toys==
===Dark of the Moon===
====Cyberverse====
[[Image:DOTM_Cyberverse_Crankcase_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|''':D''']]
* '''Crankcase''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2011)
**''Series:'' '''1'''
**''Number:'' '''003'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''CV11'''

: Part of the first wave of [[Cyberverse]] Legion single-pack toys, Crankcase is a [[Legends Class|Legends-scale]] figure that transforms into a modified [[Wikipedia:Chevrolet Suburban|Chevrolet Suburban]]. This mode is lightly detailed but looks very much like the Deluxe version. For his size class, he has an incredibly detailed face mirroring the Deluxe version. Compared to others of his range, he is one of the taller ones. In a rarity for [[Legends Class|Legends-scale]] figures, he has weapons, which look like dual blades. Later releases use the ''Battle in the Moonlight'' retool (see below).

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*'''Cybertronian Warriors Pack''' (Cyberverse multi-pack, 2011)

: A [[redeco]] and [[retool]]ing (the same as the "Battle in the Moonlight" version described below) of the Legion figure in white, decoed to emulate the real-life [[Wikipedia: Metropolitan Police Department|Metropolitan Police Department]] SUV that was accidentally hit by a Bumblebee prop car while filming the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|movie]]. Hilariously, the included [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#CybertronianWarriors|Bumblebee]] figure is given damage in the front of the vehicle mode.

: This [[Toys"R"Us]]-[[exclusive]] set also includes Bumblebee's [[Mobile Battle Bunker#CybertronianWarriors|APC]], [[Barricade (Movie)/toys#CybertronianWarriors|Barricade]] in a deco similar to Crankcase's, as well as an [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#CybertronianWarriors|Ironhide]] who is given a slightly altered version of his original deco.

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[[Image:DOTMBITMCVLCrankcase.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Battle in the Moonlight''' (Cyberverse multi-pack, 2011)

:A slight retool and redeco of the original Legion class figure, this time in light gray (with a slightly lighter gray for the unpaintable plastic pieces such as the wheels, thighs and various joints and connectors), and gold windows, lights, and robot mode detailing. He was sold in a [[Walmart]]-exclusive multi-pack with a redecoed Legion class [[Ratchet (Movie)/toys#Battleinthemoonlight|Ratchet]] and Commander Class [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Battleinthemoonlight|Optimus Prime]] w/ [[Armored Weapons Platform#Battleinthemoonlight|trailer]].

:This version sports several minor remolds from the original. The calves/ankles/support struts (it's weird because of the digitigrade leg thing with the support struts in front) have been remolded so you cannot extend the struts past the intended point on the top of the foot. The original version of the mold didn't have these pieces stopped, so you could keep extending them past the point where they were supposed to meet (making the toy taller, at the expense of the feet not looking the way intended). With the legs only extending the intended length, he is now one of the shorter-to-average sized Legion figures in the line (Ignoring the truck hood hanging over his head). The joint of the hood/roof/backpack, where it connects to the back, has also had more plastic added so it cannot move more than a millimeter or two back away from the back of the head, just enough to get the chest hood chunks past it during transformation. The original version had no restrictions, and could be pushed back all the way until the bottom of the roof hit the back of the thighs. (This made it a little less obvious that he had a truck hood behind his head, at the expense of a big empty gap at his back.)

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====Deluxe Class toys====
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[[Image:DOTM_Deluxe_Crankcase_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|Pinsir, use Vicegrip!]]
* '''Crankcase''' (MechTech Deluxe, 2011)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''DD04'''
**''Accessories:'' MechTech Blaster/Blade Claw

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' Deluxes, Crankcase transforms into a modified Chevrolet Suburban. As part of the [[MechTech]] series, he has a Blaster weapon that features a nasty grabby-claw action feature. He also has a pair of huge pincers above his robot-mode head that can also be flipped forward whilst in vehicle mode.

: His dreadlocks are supposed to be able to swivel, with the intent that they be swung behind his head to fit under his hood for vehicle mode, but in practice, this proved an either impossible or inadvisable prospect: on most, the gold paint applied has made them too thick to be rotated, running the risk of tearing the soft plastic. And even if you do get a Crankcase that doesn't have this problem, the tiny translucent plastic hinges to which the dreadlocks are connected won't last long. This means that they either end up stuffed inside his chest in vehicle mode (this is how the toy comes packaged), or are left dangling outside, with the former configuration forcing the dreadlocks to compete with everything else for space and putting the car under enough tension that it feels like it's about to spring apart.

: In an apparent [[Variant#Running_changes|running change]], the otherwise long and pointed middle digit on each hand (as per the stock photo on the right) was shoddily cut off into a noticeably thick stump (compared to the more slender fingers remaining), often cut to a different length on each hand. It is unknown if this was done for safety reasons, an error during assembly, or maybe Hasbro decided that long, extended middle fingers just weren't a tasteful design choice for a children's toy. Later releases, however, featured retooled hands with a shorter middle finger similar to his others.

: The [[TakaraTomy|Japanese]] ''Dark Side Moon'' release features the remolded hands exclusively. It also comes packed with a character card and an accompanying transparent plastic card of his MechTech weapon for the MechTech Wars online game.
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==Notes==
[[Image:DOTM Crankcase Josh Nizzi.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Plenty of dread, but no wind.]]
* Crankcase appears to be modeled after the [[Predator (alien)|eponymous alien hunter from the ''Predator'' series]], possessing similar "dreadlocks", mandibles, fangs, and claws.
* Crankcase has a nose ring and 2 pairs of earrings.
* Crankcase has a pair of smaller secondary arms depicted in his concept art that are not present in his appearance in the film. These arms do appear on his toys, molded flat against his torso.
* An early working name for him was "Dreadwind".<ref name="nizzi">[http://www.joshnizzi.com/TF3.htm Josh Nizzi DOTM concepts.]</ref>
* In early production, the [[Dread (DOTM)|Dreads]] were announced to be a pair of modified Chevrolet Suburbans. Photos of only two prop vehicles were even taken on-set.<ref name="suburb">[http://screenrant.com/transformers-3-characters-dreads-rob-95462/ "Transformers 3 Characters: Meet The Dreads"]</ref> In the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|final movie]], all three Dreads use identical Chevrolet Suburbans as their [[alternate mode]]s, with individual robot modes between the three of them. For the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|toy line]], Hasbro decided to give them individual alternate modes as well, which is why only Crankcase turns into a Suburban.
* A Dread [[Enforcer]] identical to Crankcase appears as a boss enemy in the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Xbox 360/PS3)|Dark of the Moon video game]], and is also playable in the game's online multiplayer mode, although his alternate mode is a police car similar to Crowbar's toy alternate mode.
* No, he is not [[Dave Fennoy]].
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===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Crankcase''' (クランクケース ''Kurankukēsu'')

==References==
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Dark of the Moon issue 4

2012-09-01T22:16:28Z

205.250.176.157: /* Synopsis */

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'''The final battle begins!'''

==Synopsis==
Outside of Chicago, Sam and Epps have assembled a strike team and are heading in to rescue Carly. Epps considers giving up, but then a Decepticon protoform attacks them. The protoform is then blown up by the arriving Autobots, who reveal that they had separated from the shi[ just before Starscream destroyed it. The Autobots then reveal that they plan to defeat the Decepticons once and for all. Sam then asks Bumblebee if he can use the ship the protoform was piloting...

Sam and Bumblebee soon find Carly in an apartment with Dylan Gould, but they are attacked by Laserbeak. Despite this, they still manage to rescue Carly. They meet up with the other Autobots, with Optimus getting attacked by the Driller, separating him from his trailer. Sam, Carly, and Epps' team then climb a building in an attempt to destroy the Control Pillar, but they are ambushed by Starscream. After a long chase, Starscream is killed when Sam puts a boomstick in his mouth. The Driller is also killed by Optimus, who then gets shot at by Shockwave.

Meanwhile, Bumblebee, Mirage, Sideswipe, Wheeljack, and Ratchet are captured by Soundwave, who rips Mirage's head off. Before Soundwave can kill Bumblebee, Wheelie and Brains hijack a Decepticon ship and sabotage it. This distracts Soundwave long enough for Bumblebee to kill him, avenging Mirage. The ship then crashes into the water, with Wheelie and Brains swimming away from it as it sinks.

Optimus kills Shockwave and deactivates the Control Pillar before fighting Sentinel. Dylan then reactivates said Pillar, but but Sam pushes him into it, electrocuting him to death. Carly convinces Megatron to side with Optimus, and the pair kill Sentinel as a pair of missiles destroys the Control Pillar, sending Cybertron back through the Space Bridge.

Sam and Carly are reunited, Megatron and Optimus call for a truce, and Megatron returns to Cybertron with the remaining Decepticons, with the Autobots making Earth their new home. And somewhere far away, Igor looks up into the sky, wondering what has become of his master...

[['Til all are one]].

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] (4)
*[[Topspin (DOTM)|Topspin]] (5)
*[[Roadbuster (DOTM)|Roadbuster]] (6)
*[[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]] (7)
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] (8)
*[[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] (9)
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] (10)
*[[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]] (11)
*[[Brains]] (12)
*[[Wheeljack (Movie)|Wheeljack]] (13)
*[[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] (14)
*[[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]] (18)
|c2=*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] (17)
*[[Driller]] (19)
*[[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]] (20)
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] (21)
*[[Hatchling]]s (26)
*[[Igor]] (27)

|c3=*[[Robert Epps]] (1)
*[[Sam Witwicky]] (2)
*[[Hardcore Eddie]] (3)
*[[Carly Spencer]] (15)
*[[Dylan Gould]] (16)
*[[Seymour Simmons]] (22)
*[[Charlotte Mearing]] (23)
*[[Dutch (DOTM)|Dutch]] (24)
*[[William Lennox]] (25)
}}

==Notes==

*This issue also includes [[Convergence chapter 4|''Convergence'' chapter 4]] as exclusive bonus back-up material.
*Megatron's tarp-cape varies in length. It varies between short (going down to his neck) and long (going over his shoulder, like how it's mostly seen).
*This issue was planned to be released on [[June 29]], but after the movie date was pushed to that same date, the adaptation was delayed to July 6.
*Hardcore Eddie is inexplicably drawn as a muscular, Caucasian male with a red Mohawk.

===Differences with movie===
Several pieces of the film are trimmed out and/or pared down, but purely for page-space reasons, rather than due to the issue being based on an early script. These include:
*We never see Sam and Epps finding the soldiers, unlike the film.
*Lennox shows up ''after'' Starscream is dead.
*Bumblebee doesn't save Sam when Starscream dies.
*The Wreckers don't tear apart the Decepticon pilot.
*Most of the scenes with the NEST soldiers during the battle are omitted.
*Topspin speaks!

Other script-based differences include:
*Carly does not change her clothes while she is trapped with Dylan Gould. She still wears her white dress from last issue.
*Shockwave speaks in the final battle.
*Starscream attacks Sam and the others when they are in the building about to shoot at the pillars, something that never happened in the movie.
*Simmons is still sans wheelchair.
*The [[boomstick]] that ends Starscream's life is stabbed in his mouth instead of eye.
*The Autobots are in chains during the execution scene, as opposed to simply being restrained.
*Wheeljack lives, and instead Mirage has his head ripped off by Soundwave.
*Bumblebee kills Soundwave with one shot to the chest, and the two do not have an extended battle.
*Wheelie and Brains live as opposed to the movie where their fate was merely ambiguous.
*Optimus' rampage is omitted. Shockwave stands with Sentinel as he triggers the pillar, and is simply stabbed in the chest as opposed to having his throat ripped out.
*The final fight between Optimus Prime, Sentinel Prime and Megatron takes place up in a large, destroyed building. Megatron helps Optimus in killing Sentinel Prime, providing a distraction so Optimus can use Sentinel's rust cannon against him. As well, Megatron does not die and offers a sincere truce after Cybertron disappears.
*The main control pillar is destroyed by missile launchers instead of Bumblebee destroying it.
*The final scene from the comic, with Igor looking at the sky wondering what became of his master, is not in the movie.

The Decepticons are also shown tearing a building apart and making a fortress out of it, something that was only alluded to in the film.

==Errors==

* The Wreckers' are colored rather inconsistently. In some panels they have the right colors, and in others Roadbuster is blue, Topspin is red, and Leadfoot is green.
* In the panel before Mirage dies, Soundwave has his head model. ''Yeah.''

==Covers (2)==
*'''Cover A:''' Megatron and Soundwave, by Jorge Jimenez Moreno.

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Sari Sumdac (Animated)

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{{disambig2|the good character from the Animated television show and elsewhere|the evil character from an obscure lithograph|Sari Sumdac (SG Animated)}}
:''Sari Sumdac is a techno-organic humanoid from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Sari_Animated.JPG|thumb|150px|[[Isaac Sumdac|Daddies]], don't let your babies grow up to be [[Kiss Player]]s.]]
'''Sari Sumdac''', the [[technorganic]] daughter of robotics genius [[Isaac Sumdac]], used to not get out much. She spent all her time within her father's laboratories, receiving her education from [[Tutor Bot|robots]]. Despite this, she doesn't seem like a shut-in. She's curious, excitable, adventurous, and knows that crying can sometimes get her what she wants. She's just never known what it's like to be around other kids. Fortunately, she has [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] and [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] to help with that, and she claims that 'Bee is the best friend she's ever had. In fact, she's become very possessive of all her robotic friends.

It was believed that Sari was a normal human, until it was revealed that she was made from a [[protoform]] and her father's DNA. Hence, the [[AllSpark]] viewed her with great regard, bestowing upon her a [[AllSpark Key|key]] with miraculous powers (though her guardian, the robotic dog [[Sparkplug (robot dog)|Sparkplug]], thought it was just another chew toy).

Since discovering her true origin, she has absorbed the power of her AllSpark-powered Key to gain incredible Cybertronian powers and abilities such as enhanced strength, speed, and the ability to create destructive spheres of pure white, glowing energy with her hands, as well as the power and ability to transform into an armored form with several technological weapons (most of which [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] was forced to seal away after she proved unable to control them). She also owns a scooter which can transform into a jet pack.

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
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{{voiceactor|[[Tara Strong]] (English), [[Satomi Akesaka]] (Japanese)|[[Tanja Schmitz]] (German), [[Agnieszka Wajs]] (Polish), [[Tosawi Piovani]] (Italian), [[Flora Paulita]] (Portuguese), [[Vanesa Silva Santiago|Vanesa Silva]] (Latin American Spanish, season 1 and 2), [[Shirley Marulanda]] (Latin American Spanish, season 3), [[Adeline Chetail]] (French), [[Park Sinhui]] (Korean)}}

[[Image:TransWarpedProtoform.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Megatron was also a cute little protoform like this once. Makes you think, doesn't it?]]
Sari's origins are shrouded in mystery. She came into existence when a [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertronian]] [[protoform]] appeared in Isaac Sumdac's laboratory. The baffled scientist reached out to touch the small, liquid metal creature, and received an electric shock that knocked him unconscious. When he awoke, the protoform had scanned his [[DNA]] and reconfigured into a techno-organic creature that appeared to be a human baby. Sumdac "adopted" the robot child and named it "Sari", and raised it as his own daughter over the next eight years. Understandably, Sumdac was reluctant to let Sari out into the world, and instead kept her mostly confined to [[Sumdac Tower]], educating her with [[Tutor Bot|robot tutors]] and creating robotic companions like her pet Sparkplug to keep her company. {{storylink|TransWarped}} Precisely ''how'' the protoform that became Sari appeared in Sumdac's lab is unknown; Sari herself seems to believe that she was one of the protoforms stolen from the [[Cyber-Ninja Corps]] by [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]] millions of years ago and stored aboard the ''[[Nemesis (Animated)|Nemesis]]'', but given that those protoforms were [[blank]]s, and that it was a different size and shape to all the other protoforms seen, this seems unlikely. {{storylink|Endgame, Part II}}

[[Image:SariLayingDown1.jpg|thumb|250px|[[Yūki Ōshima]] is drooling as we speak.]]
One day, when Sparkplug stole her security key card, Sari chased it outside and was confronted by the Autobots [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] and [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]], who hadn't quite yet fathomed what humans were, and spoke to her as if she were Sparkplug's pet. Naturally, she freaked out, but quickly befriended Bumblebee once he saved her from a giant bug that had grown from her father's [[nanite]] experiment gone awry. Stowing away on Bumblebee and coming aboard the [[Omega Supreme (Animated)|Autobots' ship]], she came across the [[AllSpark]], which infused part of its power into her security key, creating the [[AllSpark Key]]. This allowed her to heal [[Transformer]]s, such as the injured [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]], earning her brownie points with the 'Bots. She also managed to talk the police down from shooting the Autobots, saying they were friendly (except [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]], who was grumpy, but not evil). Sari later helped teach the Autobots about [[Earth]] and [[human]]s, explaining their method of reproduction to a ''very'' startled [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]].

[[Image:Sariprime.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Prime was never the same after this.]]
During the unveiling of her father's new transit system, [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] arrived and attacked. Bumblebee took a shot meant for Sari, allowing Starscream to capture him, Professor Sumdac, the Mayor, and [[Carmine Fanzone|Captain Fanzone]]. Sari came up with the idea to distract Starscream while she and Prowl rescued the others (even faking some tears to make it happen). The Key later saved Optimus Prime's life when she used it, in concert with the AllSpark itself, to revive his [[Spark]]. {{storylink|Transform and Roll Out}}

Sari would go on to be Bumblebee's usual partner in crime, encouraging him to engage in such questionable activities as high-profile wrestling matches {{storylink|Total Meltdown}} and installing rocket boosters to make him go faster. {{storylink|Nanosec (episode)|Nanosec}} Sari likely hangs out with Bumblebee because she knows she can scare the holy be[[Primus]] out of him. {{storylink|Along Came a Spider}}

[[Image:Saricostume.jpg|thumb|right|100px|Trivia: Transformers [[Generation 1 (franchise)|used to]] look like this.]]
On Sari's eighth birthday, the only other kids who turned up were the children of her dad's employees. None of them really wanted to be there and soon focused their attention on the Autobots. Sari was left alone and shunned along with Bulkhead, both morose that the kids didn't like them. Her father's present, a music robot called [[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]], cheered her up, and she soon began neglecting her friendship with Bulkhead in favour of her new toy. Repeated uses of the Key turned Soundwave into a malevolent, sentient being who tried to enslave Humanity, and she learnt she'd been wrong to ignore her friend. {{storylink|Sound and Fury}}

When the [[Decepticon]]s [[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] and [[Lugnut (Animated)|Lugnut]] arrived on Earth, they manhandled the Autobots. Although they survived, it made apparent the fact that more would come looking for the AllSpark, so the Autobots decided to repair their ship and leave Earth. Sari's reaction to this was displeasure (in the form of a high pitch shout of NO!). However, they needed the Key to assist Ratchet in repairing the ship. Sari was unwilling to help them leave, and neither was she pleased to work with a grouch like Ratchet (who was not that keen on working with a [[Protoform]]), but they managed to get her to the ship. While alone with the AllSpark, Sari decided to try and sabotage the ship, thereby keeping the Autobots on Earth (and dooming her species to enslavement and/or extinction) but the Key repaired the damage. After that, the AllSpark showed her an image of [[Megatron (Animated)|a giant Transformer]]. In her panic, Sari opened the air lock, nearly drowning, but Ratchet saved her. Ratchet then explained that they were leaving because they couldn't risk anything happening to Earth or her. Swayed by his compassion, Sari used the Key to reactivate the Autobot ship's decommissioned weapons, reducing Blitzwing and Lugnut to pieces. {{storylink|Lost and Found (episode)|Lost and Found}}

Eventually, [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] decided that the Key was no longer safe in Sari's hands, and he ordered Ratchet to take it from her. Distraught, Sari ran off crying, only to be captured later by [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]], who was looking for the Key herself. Sari basically told her "too little, too late," and the two seemed to have a heart-to-heart about their gripes with the Autobots. {{storylink|Megatron Rising - Part 1}}

[[Image:Megatron_Rising_Sari_chomp.JPG|thumb|left|175px|Isaac isn't the world's best dad, but he does know a good dentist.]]
While Sari was actually misleading Blackarachnia in circles around the frozen [[Lake Erie]], she was grabbed by Ratchet as he brought the Autobots' ship out of the lake. She was ticked that Ratchet had lost the Key and that her dad had helped rebuild [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]], but the blame game ceased after the ship crashed on [[Dinobot Island (Animated)|Dinobot Island]]. Prime told the Sumdacs to stay with the ship while they went to fight off Megatron. Fearing that they might die, Isaac Sumdac said that there was something that he needed to tell Sari, but she was more interested in finding something else the AllSpark could charge. The AllSpark refused to respond, other than cryptically displaying an image of a DNA strand. Suddenly, Megatron and Prime burst through the hull of the ship, and during their fight, the Key once again fell into her hands. Sari tossed it to Optimus Prime, who used the Key to partially destroy the AllSpark and disperse its energy. Acknowledging that he had been wrong in taking from her, Optimus Prime gave the Key back to Sari, saying that it was the strongest most powerful Cybertronian artifact in existence, it was too important to be left in the hands of an Autobot.

Unfortunately, all was not well, for Sari could not find her dad... as he was now a prisoner of Megatron. {{storylink|Megatron Rising - Part 2}}

[[Image:Dramatic_change_in_plot.jpg|thumb|The tide has turned!]]
After her father's disappearance, Sari took over running [[Sumdac Systems]]. Board chairman [[Porter C. Powell]] opposed her, saying that she was too young and wasting company resources searching for her father. When the [[Cybertron Elite Guard]] arrived, Sari was cut off from the Autobots and her only source of emotional support. She soon needed them, as police drones coming out of a Sumdac assembly line began to malfunction, and Powell was unwilling to do anything about it. Sneaking aboard the [[Sigma Supreme|Elite Guard flagship]], Sari put the fear of god into [[Jazz (Animated)|Jazz]] before Bulkhead explained that Sari was okay (and Bumblebee explained that [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] was a jerk). With Optimus, Prowl, and Jazz's help, Sari managed to get into the plant's assembly line and shut down the systems. When she returned home, she found that she had been locked out of her office, as Powell was now CEO and Chairman of Sumdac Systems. Insisting that it was still her company, Sari was shocked when Powell revealed that she had no birth certificate, no adoption papers, and no social security number. Powell's smug revelation made Sari realize that not only was there no proof that she was Sumdac's daughter, there was no legal proof she even existed. {{storylink|The Elite Guard}}

After that, Powell kicked Sari out of Sumdac Tower, took Tutor Bot and Sparkplug, and gave her room to [[Headmaster (Animated)|Henry Masterson]] as an office. With nowhere else to go, she went to Autobot headquarters. Bumblebee and Bulkhead tried their best to cheer her up, employing such methods as loud music, inedible food, and unedifying teaching lesson. All they did was make things worse. Eventually, Prowl put the two bots in their place and told them to ''listen'' to her. Sari opened up about all her frustrations, such as her missing father, being kicked out of her home, her fear of Powell ruining her father's company, and the fact that there was no record of her existence. Bumblebee promised that they were there for her, no matter what, and Sari finally started to feel a little better. {{storylink|The Return of the Headmaster}}

[[Image:MissionAccomplished-Fanzoneindressinggown.jpg|thumb|left|Peekaboo!]]
And then [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]] decided that the Autobots couldn't be there for her, as the Decepticons had begun attacking the fringes of Autobot space, so Prime's crew were needed elsewhere. The Autobots decided that Captain Fanzone was the best human with whom to leave her. (Granted, their list of known humans was rather short and included [[Meltdown (Animated)|Prometheus Black]] and [[Nanosec]].) Before anything close to adoption could occur, they managed to convince Magnus that there were Decepticons on Earth (mostly because Starscream fell out of the sky and landed about ten feet in front of them), allowing them to stay on planet. {{storylink|Mission Accomplished}}

Sari amused herself after settling in with the Autobots by hooking up illegal satellite TV, which she used to watch pay-per-view races. (The races were also illegal, as the Autobots found out from Fanzone.) When Bumblebee wanted to join the races to compete against a mysterious blue car, Sari came along with him. Sari discovered that man in charge of the races, [[Master Disaster (Animated)|Master Disaster]], had a remote control containing an AllSpark fragment, which he used to control the blue car. Blitzwing showed up to take the fragment, so and Bumblebee had to run for their lives. Eventually, she used the remote to get rid of Blitzwing, allowing the Autobots to get the AllSpark fragment. After that, Bumblebee severed her satellite connection, saying that he had to set a better example for her. Sari advised him not to try too hard, or she wouldn't recognize him. {{storylink|Velocity}}

[[Image:Rise_Constructicons_Sari_no_pigtails.jpg|thumb|Don't mess the 'do.]]
Sari was awakened from her night's rest by the loud cavorting of the [[Constructicon (Animated)|"Constructobots"]]. A game of flattened-oil-barrel frisbee severed her trademark pigtails, which left her none too pleased. {{storylink|Rise of the Constructicons}} Subsequently she proved that she was still more mature than Bumblebee in a number of ways, warning him off of taking on villains solo just to prove a point. Sadly he wouldn't realize this until the Decepticon behind the villains' success, [[Swindle (Animated)|Swindle]] was revealed. By then it was too late, and she had to team up with those same villains to take his immobilized chassis to Sumdac Tower. Alarmed that the receptionist robot was now declaring it to be Powell Tower, she utilized the Key to rectify that little situation before heading off and successfully disabling Swindle's technology jamming device. {{storylink|SUV: Society of Ultimate Villainy}}

A while after, Prowl and Sari were honing their agility using the factory's old assembly line. Sari claimed she could complete the exercise at full speed, like Prowl, but it was set to a quarter-speed, which proved to be too much for her at that and got a massive whack upside the head for her pains. After the Autobots discovered the return of the [[Constructicon (Animated)|Constructicons]], Sari was left at the base at the command of Optimus, who told reminded her that they had almost decapitated her [[Rise of the Constructicons|the last time they met]]. Also, he doubted she would be able to take on a pair of two-story robots. At first Sari sulked at her situation, before realizing that she was completely alone in the base and did what any eight-year-old kid would do in an abandoned factory: raid the vending machines, use cranes as miniature G-force slings and try to take on Prowl's obstacle course at full speed (which went as well as last time).

[[Image:SariNoOne%27sHome-Mixmaster%2CScrapperandSari.jpg|thumb|left|200px|They're here to kick aft and drink oil. And they're all out of oil.]]
While listening to her music, Sari failed to notice the alarms going off, which heralded the invasion of the Constructicons who were looking for [[Oil|a drink]]. After the two louts accidentally crushed her cell phone and left her with the option of sneaking to the communications room to call the Autobots for help, Sari decided—after a council of war with her teddy bear—to take on the two bots using her trusty hockey stick (which shatters soon after she strikes them with it). She escaped and made it to the communication room, contacting Bumblebee who told her to hide and wait until they finish fighting off the recently appeared [[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]], who was also looking for the Constructicons. Sari concluded that it would be too long and set up a trap for the two invaders, using three barrels of oil to trip them up and the plant's assembly line to knock them around for a while, forcing [[Mixmaster (Animated)|Mixmaster]] and [[Scrapper (Animated)|Scrapper]] to flee. The Autobots returned to find the place in ruins, but Sari showed them that she was all right. Optimus both apologized for his previous comments and lauded her for her bravery, and all was well for Sari—if she could just explain away the mountain of candy wrappers Optimus discovered.... {{storylink|Sari, No One's Home}}

Sari later posed for a Picasso-style picture done by Bulkhead. The results were...interesting, to say the least. After criticism by the Autobots, a depressed Bulkhead walked out, and Sari and Bumblebee went to cheer him up. During a walk in the park, Megatron attacked them, carrying an imprisoned Isaac Sumdac with him, and Sari realized that Megatron had kidnapped him all those months ago. (Apparently, that hadn't occurred to anyone else.) While she looked on helplessly, Megatron managed to kidnap Bulkhead. When she returned to the plant, she heard the Autobot [[Blurr (Animated)|Blurr]] reveal that Professor Sumdac was helping the Decepticons build a [[space bridge]] to conquer Cybertron. Sari refused to believe that her father was willingly helping the Decepticons and got a promise out of Optimus Prime to bring him home alive. Heading to Dinobot Island, Ratchet and Sari worked to bring the Autobots' ship back online. Ratchet realized that they would need riskier repairs to bring achieve their goal. {{storylink|A Bridge Too Close, Part I}}

[[Image:TFA_ABTC_Sari_spoilers.jpg|thumb|150px|It's a strange thing when the human companion's story arc is more interesting than the robots.]]
As Ratchet worked, he explained that the ship was an Autobot who had sacrificed his spark two million years ago. Sari was doubtful that it would come back online... until it spoke to her. She proceeded to use the Key on several of the ship's systems, under Ratchet's direction, until it was able to take off. Taking it to the mine where the Decepticons were based, Sari managed to give the ship enough power to transform into its robot mode, [[Omega Supreme (Animated)|Omega Supreme]]. The massive Autobot turned the tide of the battle, but sacrificed himself to save the others from being sucked into the space bridge. The Autobots managed to escape, with both Sari and Isaac in tow, and Isaac revealed that he had been forced to work with the Decepticons. Overjoyed that her father was safe and still a good guy, Sari dubbed Isaac Sumdac the most honest and trust-worthy guy that anyone could hope to find. It was at that point that everyone assembled noticed that the skin on Sari's elbow had torn away, revealing robotic circuitry underneath. {{storylink|A Bridge Too Close, Part II}}

Although Sari was at first scared by this strange discovery, her fear quickly gave way to anger at her father for having kept the secret that she was a robot from her for years. As they returned to Detroit, Sumdac explained how he had found Sari in his lab years before, but the girl remained incredulous, and things only got worse when the pair confronted Porter C. Powell and Henry Masterson back in Sumdac Tower. When the two men refused to vacate the building, Sari's strained patience snapped, and her hands suddenly transformed into energy projectors, which created a shock wave that knocked the pair of do-badders into the elevator. Struggling to comprehend her true nature, Sari went with the Autobots to their headquarters, unable even to be in the same building as the man she could no longer even think of as her father. Optimus Prime did his best to patch up the damaged family relationship by tricking Sari into meeting with Sumdac at [[Burger Bot]], but it wasn't until Masterson returned with his Headmaster unit attached to Starscream's body that the bonds between father and daughter were repaired, as Sari and Sumdac defended each other from the villain.

[[Image:TransWarpedSariFocus.jpg|thumb|left|Okay Sari, focus. Let go of old thinking, focus on the transformation within. The key is finding the balance in yourself. Then, and only then, can you truly say...]]
Sari quickly began to get a handle on her new Cybertronian powers and abilities, learning to channel and project beach ball-sized spheres of pure white, lightning-like energy from her hands, but the Autobots still refused to allow her to accompany them into battle against a rock-like alien creature that had just [[transwarp]]ed into the middle of Detroit. Seeking a means to strengthen and increase her powers and abilities, Sari turned her Key upon herself and underwent a surprising metamorphosis: In exchange for several years of her life, (she now appeared to be a teenager) she sprouted powerful battle armor equipped with jet-skates, arm blades and an energy sledgehammer.

[[Image:TransWarpedSariUpgrade.jpg|thumb|150x200px|"...I am transformed!"]]
Although Sari's new powers and abilities amazed the Autobots when she made short work of the rock-alien, things soon started to go wrong, as the Key's energy began overloading Sari's circuitry, causing her to run out of control. Unable to control her own body and causing objects around her to explode with her merest touch, Sari nearly killed Bumblebee by stabbing him with one of her blades before the Autobots were able to remove the key from her system. Even with the Key extracted, Sari's energies were still running wild, and she was in danger of exploding and destroying the entire city before Ratchet knocked her out with his EMP generator. Once they returned to the Autobot base, he bypassed the circuitry responsible for her overload.

[[Image:TransWarpedBumblebeeSari.jpg|thumb|left|''You've been hit by/ You've been struck by/ A smooth criminal'']]

As Sari convalesced, her father at her side, Megatron returned to Earth in control of Omega Supreme. Optimus Prime was forced to contemplate undoing the repairs done to Sari and using her to stop the rampaging superweapon as a last-ditch desperation play. When Starscream took control of Omega away from Megatron and locked down all the entrance hatches to prevent the Autobots from infiltrating the robot (again), he came to the point of ordering Ratchet to do so. Fortunately for Sari's (and Detroit's) continued existence, Ratchet refused, and the Autobots ultimately transwarped the threat off Earth. Soon after, Sari awoke and apologized to her friends for her foolishness, while her father apologized to her for holding back the truth for so long. {{storylink|TransWarped}}

After convalescing, she was next seen on [[Christmas]] Eve, making some [[oilnog]] for the Autobots and warning them to stay off Santa's naughty list. When they went to bed early, thanks to a [[Sound Wave]] toy spiking the 'nog, she called them a bunch of party-poopers, but wished them a Merry Christmas and went home.

The next morning, she wasn't happy to receive another Sound Wave toy from her father, given [[Sound and Fury|what had happened with the last one]], and was further disappointed when she was given a motor scooter rather than a car... until she found out that it transformed into a jet pack. Overjoyed, she transformed to her robot mode and flew off to show Bumblebee. When she arrived at the Autobots' base, she found it apparently deserted, and was further puzzled when the base's scanners showed their energy signatures in the factory itself. The appearance of a [[Laserbeak (Animated)|creepy robot bird]], leading a number of Sound Wave toys from an elevator in the floor (which she'd not known about before), didn't help matters, so she used her palm blasters on them and took the lift down.

In the basement, she found the Autobots wired into a VR machine by a fully rebuilt Soundwave. With most of her weaponry offline, she was no match for him and his instruments when she tried to stop him. She was forced to retreat, promising to come back for her friends.... {{storylink|Human Error, Part I}}

While she was flying back to Sumdac Tower, Soundwave decided to take over the whole city of Detroit, using the small Sound Waves to carry his hypnotic tunes, since reprogramming the Autobots was taking too long. As such, she arrived back to find a Sound Wave toy blaring hypnotic music at her... and kicked it out of the way. Soundwave deduced that her techno-organic nature made her immune to the music, and he shifted focus to trying to force everyone ''else'' to kill her, starting with her father!

After reluctantly dropping a shelving unit on her dad to make her escape, she flew to Dinobot Island for help. Her initial foray met with little success, since [[Grimlock (Animated)|Grimlock]] and [[Swoop (Animated)|his pteranodon comrade]] refused to help, tried to kill her, then left her alone when she blasted at them. Grimlock's mention that the third member of his group had been kicked out for becoming someone's "pet" raised her curiosity, though, and she soon found Scrapper, separated from the other two Constructicons by [[Three's a Crowd|a big explosion]], on the island's shore playing with "[[Snarl (Animated)|Snarl]]", and she managed to conscript the two into rescuing the other Autobots.

On their way back to the mainland on a makeshift raft, [[Wreck-Gar (Animated)|Wreck-Gar]] abruptly popped up from the lake's bottom and immediately became the fourth member of the troupe of [[Substitute Autobot|Substitute Autobots]]. Once they were ashore, Sari's chaotic attempt to get them to transform and roll out nearly had them leave her behind, but it became moot before too long when Soundwave flew out of the ground, followed by the brainwashed Autobots. Initial attempts by her group at fighting them went badly, as the Substitute Autobots proved incapable of working at a team, while the zombie-Autobots acted as a single, elegant machine under Soundwave, and Soundwave could even control her own jet pack. Sari then changed tack, abandoning efforts to co-ordinate her group and ordering them to attack as individuals. Soundwave's single, elegant machine had trouble multitasking, apparently leading to Prowl saving Sari from death at Bumblebee's stingers in an attempt to deliver his own blow.

This lasted until, with four Autobots down, only Optimus Prime remained... whereupon Soundwave could concentrate on controlling just one Autobot properly. As a result, Sari was almost killed by the enslaved Optimus—but was saved again by Prowl, who openly revealed that he'd broken Soundwave's control in knocking Ratbat away from him. Shortly after, Soundwave was again shattered into many pieces, and Sari could once again concentrate on celebrating Christmas with her adopted family and her father. {{storylink|Human Error, Part II}}

[[Image:TFA-DecepticonAir-SariHands.jpg|thumb|Ghost in the Shell? Don't you mean [[Ghost in the Machine]]?]]
When Bulkhead and her father belatedly completed the space bridge they'd been working on (after the purpose they'd been making it for had been accomplished), Sari objected that they would have gotten it working sooner if they'd let her help. They scoffed and went back to bickering about the final tweaks... so Sari took it upon herself to head over to the console, where her eyes glowed white, her hands separated into wires, and she finished the setup in seconds. When Optimus asked just ''how'' she'd managed that, she replied that she didn't know how, she just... had. Further, when Sentinel Prime sent an encoded message to Optimus that things had gone horribly wrong on the Elite Guard's ship, Sari managed to lock onto the transwarp signature of Swindle's personal storage dimension to get Optimus aboard, after Bulkhead wasn't sure it was even possible.

[[Image:TFA-DecepticonAir-SariKnowsStuff.jpg|thumb|left|"I'm Sari Sumdac. I know stuff."]]
Later, after Swindle had departed the ship and Bulkhead wasn't sure he could retrieve Optimus, she claimed she could fix it and that she'd figured out why, guessing she must have upgraded her "processor... or brain or whatever" as part of her wider upgrade. However, putting it to the test wasn't necessary, as the ship dropped off Optimus at Sumdac Tower, safe and sound. {{storylink|Decepticon Air}}

When Optimus Prime abruptly decided he needed a jetpack of his own, Sari, along with Ratchet and her dad, was called into service to make it happen, which included Sari diagnosing a problem just by touching it. {{storylink|Endgame, Part I}} The flight pack soon got its baptism of fire when Megatron unleashed a trio of [[Lugnut Supreme]]s on Detroit. Initially, Sari wanted to confront the giant Decepticons with Optimus and Prowl, but Optimus told her no. As she began to throw a hissy-fit about being kept back for her own safety again, he cut her off and told her he wanted her to help protect her "fellow organics" with the other Autobots. Embarrassed, she backed down.

Later, when Ratchet, Bumblebee and Bulkhead were about to depart for the Moon in an attempt to take back the original Omega Supreme, she insisted on transwarping there with them. Her worried father attempted to forbid her, but she told him that she knew there was something there she needed to do, and flew into the space bridge. Once there, Sari could hardly believe she was really on the Moon, but her amazement was soon tabled when Ratchet spotted Arcee, leading to the quartet being ambushed by [[Shockwave (Animated)|Shockwave]]. While Bumblebee and Bulkhead held the shape-shifting Decepticon off, Sari and Ratchet headed into Omega Supreme's inactive body with the damaged fembot and found the lab Shockwave had been using. Although slightly freaked out by the female robot's mindless repetition of lessons for young Cybertronian 'bots, Sari was able to use her technopathy to tell Ratchet how to restore her mind. Shortly after Arcee came fully back online, Bumblebee and Bulkhead came in with news for Sari. They took her down into the hold of the [[Nemesis (Animated)|Decepticons' ship]], where several blank protoforms lay. Believing that this was where she had come from, Sari reached out to touch one of the protoforms, confirming for herself that there really had been a reason for her to be there.

Meanwhile, Ratchet and Arcee had broken Lugnut's hold over Omega Supreme and reactivated the giant Autobot, and Sari joined the others in flying back to Earth aboard the ship. As he fought with his purple duplicates, those inside were shaken about. After a particularly hard hit from the last clone standing, which forced Omega to transform to ship mode and crash-land, he checked that those inside were all right, whereupon Sari noted that "all Autobots, half-bots and almost-bots" were present and accounted for. Shortly afterward, Prowl gave his spark to shield the city from the last Omega-clone's detonation, and Megatron was defeated and arrested. Sari accompanied the Autobots back to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to share in their triumphant return and learn of her true origins. {{storylink|Endgame, Part II}}

''After arriving on Cybertron, Sari remained in her "transformed" state and accompanied her Autobot buddies to the latest performance of [[Team Stunticon]], where she and her friends were honored with a special box seat.'' {{storylink|The Stunti-Con Job}}

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{{Note|As the following stories are [[multipath adventure]]s, details will vary depending on the path taken. See individual pages for information on alternate paths.}}
====''Prime Suspect''====
When Optimus Prime was framed for a break-in at [[HomeTech]], Sari had the idea to break into the police station to look for clues. Teamed up with [[You|another kid]], she was almost caught, but the Autobots rescued them at the last moment. The pair then entered HomeTech's laboratory to look for the security tape on which Prime's image had been captured, and they found a vital clue which led them to HomeTech's main warehouse. There Sari was interested in the [[Pixie-6]] robots HomeTech was due to release, but was menaced by Blitzwing, the real perpetrator of the break-in. She was able to utilize her key to zap Blitzwing via the controller he was using on the Pixie-6 'bots. {{storylink|Prime Suspect}}

====''Quest for the AllSpark''====
Distraught after the Autobots went missing without telling her, Sari visited their base on the urging of another kid she'd just met. After being attacked by a rogue cleaning 'bot, she found Bumblebee, who revealed that Megatron had taken control of Detroit's fleet of robot workers and the Autobots had come up with a plan to keep the AllSpark safe, but the rest of the Autobots hadn't reported back. Sari and her new friend helped Bumblebee track down the others and defeat [[Crush-A]], a clearance 'bot Megatron was using to try to obtain the AllSpark. {{storylink|Quest for the AllSpark}}

====''Web of Deception''====
Sari was testing one of her father's inventions, the [[Sumdac Aquaskimmer Mk 1]], on Lake Erie with a young friend when they were attacked by a [[Sparkseeker]] torpedo. After a quick rescue by the Autobots, the group found the Autobot ship offline and Optimus Prime missing. Ratchet's scans revealed the involvement of Lockdown, and Sari and her friend accompanied Bumblebee, Prowl and Bulkhead in an attempt to rescue their leader. After tangling with Lockdown, the two humans caught up with Blackarachnia, who'd hired the bounty hunter in order to get her revenge on Optimus. Sari used her key to shock the Decepticon before she could complete her plan. {{storylink|Web of Deception}}

===Titan Magazines===
[[Image:Bumblebeepizza_Titan25.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Why said pizza didn't fly out of the box is another story.]]

When Starscream and [[Starscream clone (Animated)|his clones]] seized the Autobot base, Sari immediately went to Dinobot Island to get help. She found out the Dinobots were being made grouchy by the constant rain, so she promised they could stay in the Autobot base until it stopped if they drove out the Decepticons. That made Sari Grimlock's friend and left the Autobots crying when they saw the weather forecast. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 17|Dino-MIGHT!}}

Being present for [[Quake-Maker|Quake-Maker's]] first attack on Detroit, she got to see the arrival of shiny new hero [[Afterburn]]. She was smitten at first sight. {{storylink|Animated Comic issue 1|Burnout}} She even got to hang with him on a mission to Dinobot Island! As well as be stunned by his ace moves, she used her Key to heal a wounded Grimlock and suffered emotional abuse when Ratchet faked his death to test Afterburn. {{storylink|Animated Comic issue 2|Ratchet & Grimlock Are DEAD?}}

Later, while watching a basketball game, Sari had to help stop an attack on the city by the villainous [[Crossroads]]. She'd met the supervillain when he'd worked at [[Sumdac Systems]] but his awesome disguise of a blue strip of cloth on his head threw her for a few minutes. Once she'd worked it out, she was able to inform the Autobots he was heading for [[Sumdac Tower]] and helped see to his defeat. {{storylink|Animated Comic issue 3|Crossroads!}}

Sari hit on a solution to Bumblebee and Prowl's macho posturing, setting up a race between the two in [[Crazy Coyote Canyon]] to determine who was the fastest. And she drew [[:Image:CoyoteCanyonmap.jpg|an adorable little map]] of the race track. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 25|The Race}}

===''The Cool'' comic===

[[image:PrimeSaritheCoolHuggies01.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Hug Players]]

While roaming aimlessly around the middle of the street, Sari was nearly run over by a fleet of vehicles. To her astonishment, they transformed into robots. Terrified, she asked who they were, and [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] introduced them as the heroic [[Autobot]]s. Suddenly, [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]], [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]] and [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] attacked, attempting to steal the [[AllSpark#Animated|AllSpark]]. Prime scooped Sari up, protecting her from a violent explosion as the Autobots and the [[Decepticon]]s clashed. {{storylink|The Cool Episode 1}}

Starscream eventually succeeded in stealing the AllSpark from [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] and nearly made off with it. Prime, however, stopped him by releasing all the energy within it. Prime plummeted to the ground and died, but was instantly revived by Sari's [[AllSpark Key|key]]. Sari and Prime then properly introduced themselves as Sari wept and gave Prime a big, snuggly hug. Unbeknownst to Sari, though, she was being observed via closed circuit TV by the disembodied head of [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]], who was very interested in the power of her key. {{storylink|The Cool Episode 2}}

[[Image:TheCoolSariRatchetIssue08.jpg|thumb|200px|right|]]

A good deal of time later, as the Autobots fought to keep the [[space bridge#Animated cartoon|Space Bridge]] out of Decepticon hands, Sari joined [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] in piloting the ''[[Omega Supreme (Animated)|Orion]]'' into battle, desperate that their allies could hold out until their arrival. {{storylink|The Cool Episode 7}}

They arrived just in time and transformed the ''Orion'' into [[Omega Supreme (Animated)|Omega Supreme]]. They trounced the competition and won the day. After being reunited with her father, Sari suggested they all go home. However, her joy was short-lived, as Bumblebee pointed out to her that she had some robotics sticking out through her flesh. Sari turned to her father, who admitted he had a very important story to tell her.{{storylink|The Cool Episode 8}}

[[Image:SariTheCoolSailorScout01.jpg|left|thumb|100px|"In the name of Detroit, I will punish you!"]]

After a full body-scan at Autobot HQ, and a heart-to-heart with her dad, Sari learned that she was originally a Transformer [[protoform]] that had scanned DNA from Professor Sumdac, resulting in an entirely new lifeform. Sumdac begged for her forgiveness and Sari was quick to give him a big hug, assuring him that no matter what, he'll always be her dad. Then, suddenly, [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] attacked in Omega Supreme's body! Sari decided that now was the time to join the fray with her friends and, using her key, upgraded herself into a teenager! Firing an energy-ball from her hands at the Decepticon, she then proceeded to use her newfound powers to flee in mortal terror as Starscream fired missiles at her, completely unaffected by her attack. {{storylink|The Cool Episode 9}}

At an unknown point after that, a gleeful Sari joined the Autobots in defending Detroit from an invasion of [[Lugnut Supreme]]s. {{storylink|The Cool Extra issue 1}}

Upon Megatron's defeat, Sari accompanied the Autobots back to planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], where they were all hailed as heroes by the citizenry and even [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel]]. {{storylink|The Cool Episode Final}}

===''Transformers Generations 2011''===
[[Image:Generations_2011_animated_illustration.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Something's going down.]]
Sari, along with Optimus Prime, faced against [[The Motor Master|Motormaster]] and her [[Sari Sumdac (SG Animated)|evil counterpart]]. {{storylink|Transformers Generations 2011#Volume 1|Transformers Generations 2011 Vol. 1}}
{{--}}

==Games==
===Transformers Animated: The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Tara Strong]] (English)
[[Image:TFAnimated Game Sari.jpg|thumb|right|96px]]
Sari was at the Autobot base when they decided to do some training, and offered up the services of [[AllSpark Key|her key]] to repair them if need be. She got a call from a [[Sumdac Systems]] factory, alerting them to the fact that the robots there had started going haywire, and accompanied [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus]], [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] and [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] to the plant to help them quell the robot resistance. She kept them updated on the drone problems, including when a bunch of them escaped, and let them know there were AllSpark fragments at the factory when they were in need of some to power up Megatron's Space Bridge.

After Bumblebee was accidentally left behind when Optimus and Bulkhead transwarped to Cybertron, she pointed him to some more AllSpark fragments. His fragments were stolen by [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]], so he and Sari had to hunt the bounty hunter down so he could get them back. Once they'd done so, they went to the Decepticon mine lair, and Bumblebee fought his way to the Space Bridge terminal. Though Sari was keen to see Cybertron, Bumblebee was responsible enough not to let her go, and she had to ride back to base on Prowl, an event sadly not visually recorded. After Optimus's team returned victorious from Cybertron, Sari enticed Bumblebee into some gaming by revealing she had a prerelease copy of ''[[Mage Master Maze Knight]]''. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The Game}}

==Notes==
[[Image:TFA_Sari_Sumdac_prelim_promo.JPG|thumb|left|120px|NOT show accurate.]]
[[Image:Sari_tbob_trike.jpg|thumb|right|I d-d-don't think th-this is s-such a g-g-good idea, Scott!]]
* A promotional image of Sari from the [[Cartoon Network]] ''Transformers Animated'' press kit showed her with different shoes, a different Key design, and a slightly darker skin tone.
* In a preliminary version of the [[title sequence]], Sari appeared riding on a tricycle which she used the AllSpark Key to transform into a jet pack. The footage was dropped from the finished credits, but was screened at conventions and was later included on the DVD packaged with the Optimus Prime and Megatron "The Battle Begins" action figure two-pack. The concept was later recycled as a Christmas present from her father in "[[Human Error, Part I]]"; instead of a tricycle, she has an orange scooter which transforms into a jet pack compatible with her robotic body. She may have been gone for four episodes, but now she can fly!
* Sari's pigtails do ''not'' grow back overnight... or do they?
* Sari has a transformation noise shared only with her scooter/jetpack, likely because of her rather unique origin.
* Sari did not appear for four episodes in season 3—between "[[Three's a Crowd]]" and "[[Predacons Rising]]"—after her almost-disastrous upgrade, the longest time she had been absent in the series. Well, considering the shift in focus... not to mention [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]]'s presence on Earth for three of those episodes, perhaps it's just as well. He'd probably have totally freaked out as soon as he saw her.
* Ever since her "[[TransWarped]]" upgrade, she has what appear to be [[articulation]] lines on her sleeves and stockings/socks.
* Sari's hands can transform into several different modes, two of which pay homage to the anime ''Ghost in the Shell'' and ''[[Iron Man]]''.
* From "[[TransWarped]]" onward, her eyes are an inverted version of Autobot eyes, with the lighter shade of cyan as the "whites" and the darker shade as the "iris".
* Despite the controversial [[AllSpark Key]] being written out of the series, it can be argued that in the third season, Sari was slowly turning into a ''deus ex machina'' just like it in her own right, merely by virtue of [[Decepticon Air|"knowing stuff" crucial to the storyline]] (often ''without'' a proper explanation), as well as being able to diagnose mechanical problems [[Endgame, Part I|merely by touching a given machine]].
* Sari's Cybertronian nature was planned from the very beginning.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/236269-botcon-2009-animating-animated-panel-coverage.html BotCon 2009]</ref>
* Sari is one of two Transformers with a [[Alice|human alt-mode]] and is one of three techno-organic Transformers in the ''Animated'' continuity, the other two being [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] and [[Wasp|Waspinator]].
* In "TransWarped", Sari showed off her skills with twin white energy blades that came from her forearms and an energy hammer. After being knocked out by Ratchet's EMP, those weapons vanished for the rest of the series, leaving her with only her energy sphere-throwing attack.
* According to ''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II]]'', Sari's post-upgrade weapons and tools include Master Blades (a reference to [[Grand Maximus]]'s [[Master Blade (Masterforce)|weapon]] in ''[[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (franchise)|Masterforce]]''), a Hyperspace Hammer, Azusa Skates (a reference to the ''[[Transformers Timelines (fiction)|Timelines]]'' [[Azusa|starship]]), and a [[Skyboom (Animated)|Skyboom Shield]] (which, like [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel]]'s, is a reference to the ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Skyboom (Armada)|macguffin]]). She also uses [[Micron Booster]]s to make powered jumps.
* Sari makes a cameo appearance in season 2, episode 5 of Scooby Doo! Mystery Incorporated.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Sari Sumdac''' (サリ・サムダック ''Sari Samudakku'')

==References==
{{reflist}}

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Transformers: Battle for the Matrix

2012-07-01T23:53:49Z

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[[Image:BattlefortheMatrix title screen.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Robots do their best now and are preparing...]]
'''''Transformers: Battle for the Matrix''''' is a <s>memory hog</s> online game released to tie in with ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' and the storyline loosely follows the events of the movie. It is playable online from [[Hasbro]]'s web site.

It is a sidescroller in which the player must shoot various foes to reach the end of the level. Some levels require the player to reach the end within a certain time limit, while driving, fighting or dodging enemies. The player is given the choice between using [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]. Health can be regained by collecting [[energon cube]]s, weapons can be similarly upgraded with pickups, and [[Autobot]] insignia are scattered around which give you additional score.

==Synopsis==
{{note|For the purposes of this synopsis, the player will be Optimus Prime.}}
Optimus Prime races through the streets, clearing them of Decepticon drones, before encountering [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] in an abandoned warehouse. Continuing on, he finally locates [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] in a devastated part of the city, and engages Decepticon leader, eventually forcing him to reatreat.

[[Image:BattlefortheMatrix Bumblebee vs Devastator.jpg|thumb|left|200px|CHARRRRGE!]]
His next mission is in [[Shanghai]]. Dropping out of a [[NEST]] aircraft, Optimus makes his way down a radio tower, destroying the generators which the Decepticons have placed there. After a dash through the streets of Shanghai, he encounters the fearsome [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]], who is tearing up the place, and puts an end to the Decepticon's rampage.

Trapped in a warehouse, Optimus braves the onslaught of both [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] and [[Scalpel (ROTF)|the Doctor]], until he is able to emerge triumphant from the warehouse's other side. He flees through a forest, but only encounters more of the Decepticons' drones, until finally he bests [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] in combat.

Optimus is next led to the wide open spaces of the egyptian desert, and encounters the mighty combiner [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]], whom he defeats by shooting in the back. Optimus doesn't hesitate, but powers on toward the great pyramid. There he once again faces Starscream and, victorious, scales the side of the pyramid to find the [[Star harvester|Sun Harvester]]. Despite fierce resistance from Megatron and [[The Fallen]] himself, Optimus successfully destroys the device before it can interfere with the [[Sun]] and puts an end to The Fallen's reign.
{|class="wikitable"
|-
!Level number!!Code!!Title
|-
|Level 1-1||UCDZUN||The Battle Begins
|-
|Level 1-2||WORZGR||Race to War
|-
|Level 1-3||ONNZZF||Join the War on the Streets
|-
|Level 1-4||SYMRLW||Requiem for Megatron
|-
|Level 2-1||PXDRTW||Dropping from the Sky
|-
|Level 2-2||RYSRXP||Slum Run
|-
|Level 2-3||DKRALJ||Sound and Fury
|-
|Level 3-1||YMOAYU||Stuck in the Warehouse
|-
|Level 3-2||YUVRTI||Escape the Onslaught
|-
|Level 3-3||DQEIFF||Next-to-Last Stand
|-
|Level 4-1||OPTISF||Secrets of the Desert
|-
|Level 4-2||FIOWCM||The Devastator's Howl
|-
|Level 5-1||EAPWQV||The Fallen's Doomsday Plan
|-
|Level 5-2||TFYGWV||The Terror of the Sun Harvester
|-
|Level 5-3||RYJR6I ||The Victory of the Autobots
|}
{{-}}

===Enemies===
[[Image:BattlefortheMatrix Optimus on Sun Harvester.jpg|thumb|right|250px]]
*[[Blue drone]]s - melee fighters
*[[Green drone]]s - smaller, but have ranged weapons
*[[Flying drone]]s - fly around, shooting at you
*[[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] - in levels 1-3 and 4-1
*[[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] - in level 3-1 and 3-2
*[[Scalpel (ROTF)|Scalpel]] - in level 3-1
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] - in levels 3-3 and 5-1
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] - in levels 1-4 and 5-2
*[[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]] - in level 2-3
*[[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] - in level 4-2
*[[The Fallen]] - in level 5-2

==External links==
*[http://www.hasbro.com/play/details.cfm?guid=2B8CF0AF-19B9-F369-D9DD-1A8B62A72395 Battle for the Matrix at Hasbro.com]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Battle for the Matrix}}
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[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen games]]

Talk:The Beast Within

2012-07-01T03:34:44Z

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Mighty Christ, THERE'S A SECOND PART TO THIS STORY. And someone's going to read it, and I have this crushing certainty it's going to be me. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 21:22, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
*What...is that thing? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 21:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

: A Dinobot combiner from an exclusive comic that was for something I can't recall.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 21:24, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Metrodome DVD set. I read scans of this a long time ago, but I lose them. Are they floating around somewhere? (I feel like I should file them for reference, even though I have no desire to read them.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:27, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

: You don't read this comic. You witness it. Like a train wreck. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:31, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

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[[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 21:43, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
: Dear god! This thing reads like a very bad fancomic! Is there a story to why this was included with DVD sets? [[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:36, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:: That is, basically, exactly what it is. I don't think there was any special story to why it happened - Metrodome just wanted to do something a little different, and unfortunately, this is what they got. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 22:42, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
::: I remember Linkage was in the middle of running when part 1 came out. I assumed it was Metrodome going '''"Hey, DVD pack-in comic the hardcore transfans love to bits! That's serious value-added to encourage people to purchase a DVD they may otherwise be disinclined to pony up for! Lets give ''ours'' twice as many pages and use the original G1 cast, that will make it ''much better'' than the dinky 3-page Japaneses comics, right? But instead of having an accomplished expert storyteller whose vast experience enables him to ''do'' a story in 3 pages, lets farm it out to some fans! That'll work!"''' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:29, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
*Take the links off, Interrobang, take them off! I can't help but look at them! Also, it probably violates some copywrite law. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 22:39, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
**I don't think anybody cares enough about copyright when it comes to this comic. We would've had our ass fried a long time ago for not really giving fair use justification to images, anyway. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 22:43, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Are there links to part 2? I need to archive it for reference. :~( -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:29, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
::::No! Put links to the next part! It stinks, yes, but now I have to see the rest!!! ARGH! It's terrible and great at the same time! Put up links to the next one! [[User:RIBFIR Forever|The RIBFIR Dude]] 17:23, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

A profound and moving narrative that forces the audience to re-evaluate all conceptions of their identity. Both thrilling and immersive, The Beast Within redefines the era as it forces a new standard of storytelling. Starting on an epic battle comparable to Lord Of Ring or Matrix, but the conflict pales in comparison to the internal emotional sturggle of Grimlock as he's forced to restraint his own emotions for the sake of his tactical ideology. Pushes to both physical and psychological limit, he and his compatriots fused, physically and conceptually into a unified truth that mirrors us all. But with this revelation of this most sacred ability comes a new threat to the Autobots, and yet a threat familar. I'm not going to re-read and see if any of that makes sense.--[[User:Zodberg|Zodberg]] 22:50, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, you should substitute that for the 'Everything that was wrong with Dreamwave comics happens!' 1 sentence-summary.
:I'm 100% serious. It much better captures the problems/the spirit/this story. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely bloody classic.

The lack of punctuation ''punctuates'' the humor. "Grimlock no!" Grimlock no what?

I wonder what "valuable guidance" Simon Furman provided? Other than saying "Nurse, the screens!" when he read this. [[User:Dj convoy|Dj convoy]] 23:53, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:And "definitely" is spelled without an "a", damn it. Even the comics have fallen to the "a" scourge.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 04:53, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

After learning that the Dinobot combiner has become official, I have decided that I'm quitting the hobby. Transformers has been [[ruined FOREVER]]. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 03:56, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Jesus H. Christ. I know I asked about the Dinobot Combiner but... I mean, damn. I mean, holy Hell. Why would anyone draw that?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 04:48, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

So are we going to get scans of part 2 as well? [[User:Detour|Detour]] 09:18, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I think '''the DEATH PENALTY''' should be used to deter fanboys from ever writing official fiction ever again. Unless they're already accomplished writers or professionals. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Try reading it for sheer laughs. Its kinda funny seeing Cosmos go down in flames, and the Decepticon cheerleading squad's "Kill it Predaking!!!" is a hoot! When (and WHY) was this established as canon? --[[User:Evil-yuusha|Evil-yuusha]] 14:00, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:[[Canon#Canon_and_the_Transformers|TF canon]] is everything that Hasbro and/or Takara has approved of ever. If the DVD release was official (it was, wasn't it?), then the included comic must've been approved as well. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 20:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah its an official DVD set from Metrodome in the UK. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:29, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
::I think this definition confuses the word "canon" with "official." The story is (sadly) undeniably official. I don't think that it can be considered "canon," because (as is stated within the article itself) it can't fit in pretty much ''any'' known continuity. Yeah, yeah, I know what the linked Wiki article says. My point stands. There's no such thing as a "single item canon."--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 16:14, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't think it can be considered any more canon than those one-shot catalogue comics that came with the Armada toys. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] 17:00, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

So... no one has scans of the second part of the story? This really feels like something one must view in its entirety... [[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:34, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
:NO. In fact, I propose the the deletion of this entire article and anything related to it, so we can all safely pretend it doesn't even exist. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] 13:48, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:: Scans of both parts can be got at http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9M0UNCLC - the plus side is they're in Spanish, and all the better for it (sounds like the lettering is an improvement for a start). The downside is it's still crap. [[User:The Ideon|The Ideon]] 16:37, 31 May 2009 (EDT)
::: megaupload has been removed, damn it. --[[Special:Contributions/205.250.176.157|205.250.176.157]] 23:34, 30 June 2012 (EDT)
==The "The Beast"==

Can we get some more justification on this wording? "Because." isn't very sufficient, except to imply that it's just to be goofy. Which is fine, in theory, but this particular execution doesn't work. It just looks like bad English. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 21:40, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
: It's just to be goofy. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:01, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

== Jamieson is still proud ==

Should mention be made in the article that the writer is still proud of the work, and in fact maintains that it's the reader's fault for not understanding it's brilliance? [[User:Sledge|Sledge]] 17:38, 13 November 2009 (EST)
:Where is this stated? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:12, 14 November 2009 (EST)
::I think we cover this well enough already on Jamieson's page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:42, 14 November 2009 (EST)

Sideswipe (Movie)

2012-06-03T01:06:47Z

205.250.176.157: /* Dark of the Moon film */

{{factions|autobot|NEST}}
{{disambig3|Sideswipe}}
:''Sideswipe is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Revenge of the Fallen Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|300px|Also known as ''"Stabby McWheelfeet"''.]]

'''Sideswipe''' is true to his function of Warrior. Though proficient with guns, he prefers melee combat to ranged weapons, and will employ any maneuver it takes to get close enough to the enemy to use his arm-mounted [[Cybertanium]] swords. His agile, wheel-legged form more than allows for this. His tactics are merciless and he's utterly unapologetic about this—war, after all, is ''messy''.

Oh, and he's also not vain at ''all'': those alt modes of his are chosen for speed only. It's a ''total coincidence'' that the fastest one just ''happens'' to be a sleek, sexy, concept model that's better than ''your'' car, honest! <ref>[[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe|Transformers: The Movie Universe]]</ref>

{{quote2|Damn, I'm good.|Sideswipe|[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]}}

==Fiction==
===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
When Sideswipe joined the Autobots he trained under the veteran warrior [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]], learning the arts of war. After his training was complete, he went on to become the protector of a settlement of displaced Autobots. This settlement was found by the pitiless [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]], who slaughtered them nearly to a bot. Sideswipe was ashamed, not only over having failed to protect his charges, but also because he had lived to tell the tale. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 2|Tales of the Fallen #2}}

[[Image:Talesofthe Fallen2- Sideswipetraffic.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Phew, lucky the artist didn't put anyone in those cars or Sidewipe would be a bit of a git here!]]

After [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]'s Autobots left [[Mission City]], they left a homing beacon in a junk yard near the metropolis to attract any Autobots who might have heard Prime's rallying call to [[Earth]]. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 3|Alliance #3}} Sideswipe was among those few that answered the beacon and arrived on the planet on the [[Wrecker]]s ship, the ''[[Xantium (DOTM)|Xantium]]''. The ship and the Wreckers stayed behind in [[NASA]], {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}{{storylink|Dark of the Moon issue 3}} and had hidden themselves in the junk yard. Once discovered, they were brought to [[Diego Garcia]] to train with the other Autobots and [[William Lennox|Major Lennox]]'s soldiers in defense of their new home. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4|Alliance #4}} However, Sideswipe proved a loose cannon as he continued his vendetta against Demolishor when the Decepticon turned up in [[Montevideo]], [[Uruguay]]. Showing little regard for humans in pursuing his quarry, Sideswipe's actions prompted Ironhide to arrive on the scene to rein him in. The younger Autobot was openly insubordinate towards Ironhide, warning him not to get in the way. Ultimately all the old veteran could do was to serve as damage control during Sideswipe's singleminded pursuit. Ultimately more reinforcements from [[NEST]] arrived, and Demolishor fled the scene. In the aftermath, Sideswipe saw the fear and mistrust the humans regarded him with because of his violent actions. Understanding this, he was forced to admit that Ironhide's admonishment of him was correct. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 2|Tales of the Fallen #2}}

Sideswipe didn't have long to wait for another shot at his nemesis. Soon enough, Demolishor had been sighted in [[Shanghai]], [[China]]. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4|Alliance #4}}
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===Titan Magazines ROTF comic===
{{bigquote|''Skids? Mudflap? Hhh.'' What have I ever done to deserve ''this''?|Sideswipe on his training position, [[Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune]]}}

[[Image:Titan4_Sideswipe.jpg|right|thumb|250px|"Look, you guys are the Jar Jar Binks of this franchise. There's ''always'' room for improvement."]]

Unlike most Autobots, Sideswipe—part of a younger generation built during wartime—was made to fight. He was born during the war and with full knowledge of the Cybertronian battlefield, designed solely for killing. He's master of the quick-change transformation! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Sideswipe's profile}}

Sideswipe served as a combat instructor at NEST's Scottish base, and had to put [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] back through basic training—something he was fed up of. As far as he was concerned, they should've been put on charge for causing [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] to escape and he should have better things to do. He dealt with this by putting the twins through simulated combat after simulated combat, finally cracking it up to maximum setting, before [[Ravage (ROTF)|someone knocked him out]].

When he came to, the twins were babbling about how a mysterious and long-vanished Decepticon working for [[Soundwave (ROTF)|another mysterious Decepticon]] had done it and tried to kill them! Sideswipe was having none of it, viewing this as implausible and believing the twins knocked him out in revenge for training and were covering themselves. Between this and Grindor, he was becoming suspicious of them... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}}

Following the training, poor Sideswipe took them to [[Diego Garcia]] and continued to be pestered by them for a meeting with Prime. Not trusting them and ignoring their babble about some "[[the Fallen|dude]]", he tried to discourage them, only for the two to sneak off behind his back. Sighing, he went in pursuit... and saw them distract Prime before a [[Scorponok (Movie)|Decepticon attacked]], Skids tripped over Prime before he could take charge, and Mudflap handed a weapon to [[Sideways (ROTF)|an escaping prisoner]]! When Optimus remarked that someone must've compromised security, Sideswipe fingered the twins: their actions clearly showed they were turncoats! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune}}

Sideswipe would be part of the team tracking down the twins {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Outlaw Blues}}, and would later be surprised when they were tracked down to [[North Carolina]]... and were ''fighting'' two Decepticons? Why, if he didn't know better, he'd think they were fighting the two 'cons they'd helped! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}}

After the Autobots tracked the twins to the Decepticon's base, it became clear they ''weren't'' traitors after all and ''had'' been framed. Did Sideswipe apologise? Hell no, he instead had a scary amount of fun slaughtering [[Purple generic drones|drones]] and had to be told off by Ironhide for excessive bloodlust. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}}

[[Image:Titan11_cleaningupHoist.jpg|left|300px|thumb|The Autobots, after some time in Glasgow. ]]

Later, after [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|the twins turned out to have told the truth about this "Fallen" guy]], Sideswipe was with Ironhide cleaning up the remaining Decepticons on Earth, (rather worryingly) including ''[[Hoist (Movie)|Hoist!]].'' {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.11|Spare Parts!}}

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===''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===
:''Voice actor:'' [[André Sogliuzzo]] (English), [[Hisao Egawa]] (Japanese), [[Salvador Reyes]] (Latin American-Spanish)

[[Image:Sideswipe-ROTFdamnImgood.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Damn, he's good... at killing [[Sideways (ROTF)|fleeing cowards]].]]

Sideswipe was one of the Autobots sent to [[Shanghai]] when Decepticon energy signatures were detected, but he was initially held in reserve. As [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] managed to flee from [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] and [[Skids (ROTF)|the]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Twins]] in vehicle mode, [[William Lennox|Major Lennox]] ordered Sideswipe deployed. Sideswipe immediately sped in and quickly changed to robot mode. Catching up with Sideways by dexterously skating on his wheel-feet, Sideswipe somersaulted over the Decepticon, threw his right blade in the Decepticon's hood, and then dragged the blade in the opposite direction, tearing Sideways apart. Sideswipe took a moment to reflect on the success of his kill.

Afterwards, he returned with the other Autobots to [[NEST]]'s base in Diego Garcia, where he witnessed Director [[Theodore Galloway]] air the [[Barack Obama|President's]] concerns over the recent spate of Decepticon activity, and how the Autobots remaining on Earth might be the cause of it.

[[Image:ROTF SideswipeatNJbase.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Sideswipe after he gets kicked out of [[Avengers|The Avengers]].]]
After the [[AllSpark|AllSpark shard]] was stolen by [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] from NEST's secured bunker and Decepticons were detected heading towards [[Sam Witwicky]] at [[Princeton University]], Sideswipe and the other Autobots were deployed to intercept, but arrived too late: [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] had died protecting the human boy from the resurrected [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]]. The Autobots and NEST arrived at a [[United States of America|United States]] air base to discover that they were no longer welcome, following renewed Decepticon aggression after Prime's death, and that they were ordered to return to Diego Garcia. The emotionally overwhelmed Autobots nearly came to blows with their former allies but finally agreed to stand down and remain on Earth.

[[Image:ROTF Sideswipe in Egypt.jpg|thumb|left|300px|The "Where's Sideswipe?" series of books never really caught on.]]
When Major Lennox learned Witwicky had come up with a way to possibly resurrect Optimus Prime, NEST travelled to [[Egypt]] instead. Sideswipe, who had been covered in a cargo net while being transported in vehicle mode, relished the chance to cut through his bonds when deployed from the air. He fought off many Decepticons during [[Operation: Firestorm]], and bore witness to Sam resurrecting Optimus Prime with the [[Matrix of Leadership]], and the death of [[The Fallen]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
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===Toy bios===
Before the war, Sideswipe was a major competitor in the [[gladiatorial combat|gladiatorial games]]. Years of training made him a master at fencing, something he viewed as an art to be celebrated through battle. When war broke out, he was sickened by the Decepticon's slaughter and vowed to use his fencing skills to defend the innocent. {{storylink|#Robot Replicas|Robot Replica Sideswipe}} Before he enlisted with the Autobots, Sideswipe traveled the galaxy in search of the most proficient warriors and devastating martial arts he could find, leading to him becoming an Autobot combat instructor.<ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro Sideswipe Battle Bio]</ref> He's such a hardcore master of [[Metallikato]], he dismisses [[Bludgeon (ROTF)|Bludgeon]] as a master because of his reliance on guns. <ref>Bludgeon's Battle Bio</ref>

He's also a raw, untrained guy! Used to battling alone, he was given over to [[Robert Epps]] to be trained as a team player. The two have become good friends, and Sideswipe is now more dangerous than ever. {{storylink|#Human Alliance|Sideswipe / Tech. Sergeant Epps}}

When the [[Hooligan (G2)|hooligan]] [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]] gained new powers and threatened Earth, Sideswipe was dispatched with Mudflap to take the giant Decepticon down. {{storylink|The Fury of Fearswoop}}

[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] has recently convinced him to use guns again. As it turns out, they'll be perfect against his enemy [[Axor|Axor]]. (Gonna apologise to Bludgeon now, Sideswipe?) {{storylink|#Transformers (2010)|Sidearm Sideswipe}}

He also prides himself as a good driver, but he admits that he's not as good as [[Mikaela Banes|Mikaela]]. Her instinctive driving ability is so silky smooth that it allows Sideswipe to focus purely on his blades. {{storylink|#Human Alliance 2|Sideswipe / Mikaela Banes}}

===Cyber Missions===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Bronco D. Jackson]] (English), [[Milton Wolch]] (Latin American-Spanish)

[[Image:Sideswipe_twin-pistols.JPG‎|thumb|right|300px|Trading swords for guns? He's Bizzaro-[[Drift (G1)|Drift]]!]]
Tracking Megatron to a disused factory with Optimus, Sideswipe complained about the dust until Optimus told him to be quiet. Optimus's scans turned up nothing, but Megatron soon revealed himself, batting Sideswipe aside. The young Autobot quickly recovered and joined Megatron in sword combat, even stabbing the Decepticon leader in the foot mid-sentence. Megatron subsequently brought the roof down on the two Autobots and escaped, though neither Autobot was harmed. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 4}}

Later, Sideswipe was pursuing [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] in [[Scramble City (city)|Scramble City]], and took a turn to let the Decepticons think they had lost him, in truth following them to the facility they were heading for. After crumpling Frenzy into a ball and batting him back at Barricade, Sideswipe engaged the larger Decepticon, but was stopped with fire suppression equipment that froze him to the databanks. As the Decepticons were able to escape, Sideswipe broke free and learned that they had stolen NEST's defense deactivation codes. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 6}}

Soon after, he was able to discover a wounded Ratchet back in [[Mission City]] and took him back to [[Diego Garcia]] to be repaired. While Ratchet was getting fixed up, Sideswipe traded in his shattered blades for new blasters. While they did that, [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]] arrived and threatened Sideswipe during target practice. Apparently, he had enough- he was able to shoot the [[Electromagnetic pulse|EMP blaster]] off of Lockdown's wrist and back to Ratchet, who was fully operational. Lockdown, now without a blaster weapon, pushed Sideswipe aside and fled, much to Sideswipe's dismay, but Ratchet assured him that he was headed straight for the medical bay. There, he saw an out-cold Lockdown laying on an operating table, all the while stating he couldn't look. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 7}}

Sideswipe and Ratchet were transporting some energon to a secure location when they were attacked by [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and [[Mindwipe (ROTF)|Mindwipe]]. Mindwipe assaulted them with his hypnotic powers, but at Ratchet's suggestion, Sideswipe used his satellite radio to play some loud music, breaking Mindwipe's concentration. The Autobot turned on Starscream, yelling at Ratchet to secure the energon, but as Ratchet pointed out, Starscream was a bit more formidable than Sideswipe had counted on. As Starscream was on the verge of dismantling Sideswipe, Ratchet threw the energon trailer from the nearest cliff, and Starscream broke off his attack. In the aftermath, Ratchet and Sideswipe went to find somewhere safe to hide from the enraged Decepticon. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 10}}

Optimus later requested backup to help fight Megatron and Starscream in the Arctic Circle. Sideswipe, Ratchet, Ironhide,and Bumblebee arrived to help their leader, and all four fought Starscream. The Decepticon was swiftly defeated by the Autobots, but Optimus allowed Megatron and Starscream to flee.
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Optimus later laid a trap for a final confrontation against Megatron, and had a hologram of the imprisoned Soundwave as bait. Megatron tried to retrieve his soldier, but the image shifted to a hologram of Sideswipe. Sideswipe calmly taunted the Decepticon leader as he swiped at the illusion, but Sideswipe did not take part in the ensuing battle.
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===IDW post ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===
When [[Alice]] stole an RV and went on a rampage, Sideswipe was part of the NEST team sent to stop her. She attempted to ram the NEST roadblock, but Sideswipe decided to ram her first, and impaled her through the front windscreen. He was later seen carrying the RV over his head. He observed [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] examining Alice's corpse, and wondered why any Cybertronian would stoop to taking on the appearance of a [[human|lesser life form]]. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 1|Nefarious #1}} He was sent with Ironhide to stop a Decepticon trio. Ironhide warned him not to get cocky, but Sideswipe merely responded that he really ''was'' that good, before chopping [[Brakedown (ROTF)|Brakedown]] in half. He was ready to finish off the apparently-surrendering [[Dirt Boss (ROTF)|Dirt Boss]] as well, but the surrender was just a ruse to allow [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] time to attack, and Sideswipe was caught in the explosion. He survived to see [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] swoop in and capture Soundwave. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 2|Nefarious #2}}

Sideswipe helped prepare a nuclear shelter in [[Odessa]], [[Texas]] to house Soundwave. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 3|Nefarious #3}} When Soundwave led them to the location of the [[Initiative base]] and it wasn't there, Sideswipe wondered why Optimus continued to trust the Decepticon. Soundwave traced the [[Initiative]] to [[Oregon]], and the Autobots went there to launch an attack. Ratchet suggested Sideswipe stay behind him to avoid damage, but Sideswipe scoffed at the very idea. However the Autobots found themselves facing brainwashed Transformers, and Sideswipe even recognized one as [[Armorhide (Movie)|Armorhide]]. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 5|Nefarious #5}} Optimus sent Sideswipe, [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] to help [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]'s team. They briefly found themselves under a new kind of attack when [[Carter Newell]] tried to use a duplicate [[AllSpark]] to destroy Cybertronian life. The Autobots ultimately triumphed. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 6|Nefarious #6}}

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===Transformers Annual 2011===
When Decepticon activity was detected in [[Tokyo]], Sideswipe headed there with Optimus, Ironhide and Ratchet. He was the first to spot [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and wrestled with the Decepticon until Optimus intervened. The arrival of [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] sent Sideswipe scrambling for cover, but he and Ratchet subsequently covered Optimus, as their leader took Grindor down. {{storylink|Sam in Danger}}

===''Dark of the Moon'' film===
:''Voice actor:'' [[James Remar]] (English), [[Hisao Egawa]] (Japanese), [[José Luis Orozco]] (Latin American Spanish)

[[Image:DOTM SideswipeStealthForce.jpg|left|300px|thumb|Note to self, never solve a Rubix Cube while in Stealth Mode.]]
With little Decepticon activity on Earth since the defeat of The Fallen, the Autobots now assisted their allies in dealing with human problems around the globe. Sideswipe accompanied [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], [[Mirage (Movie)|Dino]], and [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Que]] on a mission to an illegal nuclear power plant in the Middle East. Upon returning to base, he was called in for a weapons inspection and watched as Optimus explained the importance of going to the long-lost Autobot ship, the ''[[Ark (DOTM)|Ark]]'' on Earth's [[Moon (moon)|moon]]. Later, after the former Autobot leader [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] was retrieved from the moon and reactivated, Sideswipe observed his explanation of how his pillars were key to controlling the Space Bridge, a teleportation device Sentinel had designed that was crucial to the Autobot war effort.

[[Image:Dotm-sideswipe-escapewithdignity-1-.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Does anybody else think we should have hats for this standoff?]]
Sideswipe and Dino joined Bumblebee, [[Sam Witwicky]], [[Seymour Simmons]] and [[Dutch (DOTM)|Dutch]] in following up on a lead to explain why humans were being killed by Decepticons. After the humans determined that the Decepticons were targeting Sentinel for his ability to control the Space Bridge, Sideswipe helped to escort the ancient Autobot back to base. Along the way Sideswipe helped fend off the [[Dread (DOTM)|Dreads]] coming to capture Sentinel on a highway in [[Washington, D.C.]], using his [[Stealth Force]] mode to help in bringing down [[Hatchet]]. Nearing the NEST facility, Sideswipe and Ironhide subsequently confronted the remaining Dreads, [[Crankcase (DOTM)|Crankcase]] and [[Crowbar]], forcing the Decepticons to drop their weapons after a "Mexican standoff". However, the two Decepticons attacked the Autobots with hidden spear bombs, injuring Ironhide in the process. Sideswipe managed to avoid damage by cutting the spear bomb thrown at him in half with a back flip, using the movement to kick one of his blaster to Ironhide. The veteran Autobot then used the gun to kill Crowbar. Sideswipe was knocked down by Crankcase, who in turn was taken down by Ironhide with a spear to the face.

Sideswipe and the other Autobots were forced to leave Earth when the turncoat Sentinel Prime coerced the human governments to exile their protectors. As it was leaving Earth's atmosphere, the Autobot's ship, the ''[[Xantium (DOTM)|Xantium]]'', was destroyed by [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], and Sideswipe was presumably killed along with his fellow Autobots. However, knowing that Sentinel and the Decepticons wouldn't honor their promise that humanity would not be harmed, the Autobots hid themselves into the boosters of their ship, and safely splashed down to Earth before the ship was destroyed. Sideswipe and the Autobots rejoined their human allies from NEST and Sam Witwicky on the outskirts of Decepticon-controlled Chicago, now the center stage for Sentinel Prime and Megatron's plan to bring [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to Earth.

[[Image:DOTM Autobotsattack.jpg|left|300px|thumb|"Autobots attack!" "Who put you in charge?"]]
Sideswipe helped plan the Autobots' assault against the Decepticons, ordering Ratchet to cover high and for Que to roll out already. Soon, five Autobots were captured by Decepticons commanded by [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] and [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]. As Sideswipe struggled against his captors, the human traitor [[Dylan Gould]] convinced Soundwave to execute the Autobots, starting with Que. Sideswipe and the others would have suffered the same fate as the Autobot scientist if not for the timely intervention of [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] and [[Brains]], whose commandeered Decepticon mothership rained down [[Orbital Assault Carrier|fighters]] on Soundwave's forces, allowing the Autobots to turn the tables and destroy their captors. Freed, Sideswipe led his comrades as they took the fight to the Decepticons and helped Optimus Prime against the traitorous Sentinel Prime. Eventually, the control pillar activating the space bridge was destroyed and, in the ensuing chaos, the Decepticon forces in the sky were dragged into the abyss created by Cybertron's destruction. Now, with Earth truly their home, Sideswipe stood triumphantly with his battle-worn comrades at the battle's end. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

==Games==
===Transformers: The Game (PSP)===
[[Image:Sideswipe movie psp.jpg|right|170px|thumb|]]
:''Voice actor:'' [[Fred Tatasciore]]

Sideswipe arrived on [[Earth]] some time after [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and his team, apparently at the same time as [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Wheeljack]] and [[Hoist (Movie)|Hoist]]. He accompanied the other Autobots on their mission to [[Hoover Dam]], and was seen escaping the complex when the [[Decepticon]]s attacked. {{storylink|Transformers The Game (PSP)|Transformers The Game}}

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===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Nolan North]] (English)
[[Image:ROTF_360PS3PC_Sideswipe_DLC.jpg|thumb|250px|Silver or red, yer dead.]]
====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====

{{Note|Sideswipe was absent from the released game, but on [[August 27]], [[2009]], was made available as a playable character (for multiplayer games) as optional downloadable content for Xbox 360 and Sony Playstation 3 owners. The pack also included a red alternate colour scheme for Sideswipe, as a homage to his [[Sideswipe (G1)|Generation 1 counterpart]].}}
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====PSP====
{{note| Sideswipe is one of several Autobots that can be played with during the campaign mode of the game, and thus has no real story of his own apart from the events mentioned below.}}

=====Autobot campaign=====
: Sideswipe managed to get ambushed by the Decepticon forces during the battle in Shanghai, and the Autobots had to move out to save their comrade, leaving the AllSpark fragment in the Decepticons' hands.

{{Storylink|Revenge of the Fallen: Autobots/Decepticons}}

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===''Transformers: Dark of the Moon - The Game''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Fred Tatasciore]]

====(Xbox 360/PS3)====

{{Note|Sideswipe was absent from the released game, but on [[July 19]], [[2011]], was made available as a playable character (for multiplayer games) as optional downloadable content for Xbox 360 and Sony Playstation 3 owners.}}

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In Game, Sideswipe is one of the Fastest Scout class autobots outside of vehicle mode thanks to his movement style. His main weapon is a burst sniper rifle, and his main ability is sword spin.

===''Transformers: The Ride''===
:''Voice Actor:'' James Remar
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{{storylink|Transformers: The Ride}}

==Toys==
===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:ROTF-toy_SideswipeLegends.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hey! I have real feet now!]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Legends, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''EZ-06'''

: [[Legends Class]] Sideswipe transforms into a tiny Corvette Stingray concept car. As a Legends toy, he features a simplified transformation sequence that results in swords that consist entirely of door [[kibble]] and barely-noticeable reliefs of his wheel-feet.

:This toy was [[redeco]]ed into ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/LegSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:ROTF-toy_SideswipeFoF.jpg|thumb|300px|[[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] as his partner... Screwed, or not screwed?]]
*'''The Fury of Fearswoop''' (Figure multi-pack, 2009)

:A "battle damaged" deco version of Legends Sideswipe was available in the [[Walmart]]-exclusive "[[The Fury of Fearswoop]]" 3-pack together with a similarly "battle damaged" version of Legends [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] and Deluxe class [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]]. That the set uses a pair of Legends-class cars and a Deluxe-class jet means the toys are in a roughly-correct scale to each other... which is borked by the story, in which Fearswoop is supposedly much huger than normal thanks to some unnamed mystic artifact.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/WMLegSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on "Fury of Fearswoop" Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:ROTF-toy_Legends_BluesteelSideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Was the painter sleeping at the controls?!]]
*'''Bluesteel Sideswipe''' (Legends, 2010)

:"Bluesteel" Sideswipe is a metallic blue redeco of Legends Sideswipe, also featuring some minor detail changes, including finally painting his fake wheel-feet to make them stand out.

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:ROTFSideswipe 2009 Deluxe.jpg|right|300px|thumb|His heroes are [[Tigatron]] and [[wikipedia:Edward Scissorhands|Edward Scissorhands]].]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-04'''

:Sideswipe transforms into a silver Corvette Stingray concept car. In this mode, he sits so low that it's difficult to roll him without scraping his undercarriage, unless you perform some careful shaping after transforming him. Sideswipe's [[Mech Alive]] gimmick is in his knees—bending his legs causes the blue armor plates on his knees to extend. He does have wheels in his feet like his character model, but the toy's feet have been designed in such a way that it can stand alone. Rounding out his robot-mode awesomeness, his hips have an "invisible joint" and moving pistons, while his "blades" are geared to spin out in unison. He is ''totally awesome''.

:Sideswipe's instructions aren't clear as to how his torso is supposed to connect with his chest in robot mode. The torso piece has a square peg on top of it and there is a corresponding square hole between the two screws holding the front of his chest together. Getting his torso section in front of his arm struts can be a somewhat snug fit.

:This mold was [[retool]]ed into ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]].

:During part of 2010, [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/transformers-toy-giveaway.cfm Hasbro did a promotion] wherein US fans could receive three free Deluxes in exchange for receipts showing the purchase of $25 or more of select Transformers product. As noted in [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=69645&st=0 this thread over at Allspark.com], and later confirmed by [http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HT83971G3 this listing here], Sideswipe was one of a pool of eight figures (all from the same wave) from which the free Deluxes were drawn, with several people having noted receiving him.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/Sideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:ROTF_Deluxe_StrikeMissionSideswipe.jpg|thumb|300px|"Well basically, I just copied the Sideswipe we have now. And this racing stripe here I feel is pretty sharp."]]
*'''Strike Mission Sideswipe''' (Deluxe, 2010)

:This redeco of Sideswipe features red translucent windows, a large black racing stripe running down the center of the car and fading black stripes on the doors. Like many Autobots in the NEST Global Alliance ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline refresh, he features a version of the NEST logo [[tampograph]]ed on him.

:This deco is also the basis for the [[Gravity Bot]]s [[#GravityNitro|"Nitro" Sideswipe toy]].
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====Human Alliance====
[[Image:ROTF_HumanAlliance_Sideswipe_Epps.jpg|thumb|300px|Training with Sergeant Epps really beefed him up!]]
*'''Sideswipe / Tech. Sergeant Epps''' (Human Alliance, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-22'''
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:Like all [[Human Alliance]] figures, Sideswipe is designed to allow his accompanying human figure, in this case [[Robert Epps]], to ride inside.

:While in many ways simply a larger version of the Deluxe toy, it has several changes. The wheeled feet may now fold out into a stand system, allowing Sideswipe to stand without having to balance on the wheels, or be left as is to retain a more rounded look, and his blades are now rubberized to prevent injury and damage, as the blades lay flat underneath in vehicle mode. The sword-hands can also be slotted into a gear system connected to the front wheels, which causes them to spin as the wheels are turned. The passenger's seat may either be used as a seat for Epps, or turned into a missile launcher slung over Sideswipe's left shoulder.

:Like the Deluxe figure, the HA Sideswipe is something of a [[shellformer]] and suffers from an excessive amount of [[kibble]], as nearly the entire top of the vehicle mode is folded up into a backpack, with only the rear bumper being incorporated as Sideswipe's chest. Partly as the reason, it is also quite hard for him to be able to stand up, as his thigh joints are tight and the rubber tubing on his thighs can get quite tense during posing, constantly wanting to reset his torso to tilt back up and as well as wanting his legs to be straight, thus overbalancing him and making him fall on his backpack.

:A great deal goes unmentioned in the instructions: in addition to the seats behind Sideswipe's shoulders, there are pegs on both forearms that a Human Alliance human figure can stand on or have plugged into their back, but neither are accomplished very well; the pegs also interfere with free rolling in vehicle mode, scraping on the ground. There is a fold-out handle under the swiveling rear window section, which seems to serve no purpose; it's possible to fold this section over Sideswipe's head (and, by extension, any human figure sitting behind his right shoulder), but the handle is only reached if the human figure has its left arm raised straight up and the seat is in just the right position. There are also small tabs that fold out of Sideswipe's waist to make him more movie-accurate. The small turret on his right shoulder can be slid upwards slightly, allowing it to clear the shoulder much better. Sideswipe also has an extra hinge near either thigh swivel that is completely hindered by the rubber tubing on his legs. Finally, Sideswipe has a battle mask; or rather, his normal head '''is''' his battle mask. A thin sliver in the middle of his face flips back to reveal his "real" face. It looks... odd. It's probably best to leave the thing down and never speak of this feature.

====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:Sideswipe ROTF FAB toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Has anyone seen my proportions?]]
*'''Battle Blade Sideswipe''' (Fast Action Battler, 2009)
: This roughly Deluxe-sized version of Sideswipe is a kid-friendly version with a simpler transformation, transforming from a Corvette Stingray car to a simplified version of his robot mode presented in the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie. His main [[gimmick]] is his spring-loaded arm-blades which automatically swing down when pulled upward.

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*'''Night Blades Sideswipe''' (Fast Action Battler, 2010)
[[Image:ROTF-toy_FAB_NightBladesSideswipe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Haven't found my proportions yet, but look at this cool deco I found!]]

: This [[redeco]] of Battle Blade Sideswipe colors his car mode dark gray and light green. His robot-mode bits remain silver.

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====Battle Chargers====
[[Image:ROTFSideswipe BattleChargers 2009.jpg|right|300px|thumb|He secretly envies the original [[Battlecharger]]s for having better feet.]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Battle Charger, 2009)

:Part of the [[Robot Powered Machines]] subline, Battle Charger Sideswipe is a cutesified Corvette Stingray with a [[pull-back motor]]. When pulled back and let go, his roof flips open and his robot mode pops out.

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[[Image:ROTFHyperSpeedSideswipeBattlecharger.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Hyper Speed Sideswipe''' (Battle Charger, 2009)

:Hyper Speed Sideswipe is a redeco of Battle Charger Sideswipe with black details here and there and his name stenciled on his windshield.
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====Gravity Bots====
[[Image:ROTF-toy SideswipeGravity.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Before he joined the army, Sideswipe was picked on a lot for his "mass problem".]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Gravity Bot, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''GB-04'''

: Part of the second wave of [[Gravity Bot]]s, Sideswipe uses gravity-activated [[autotransformation]] to turn into a [[super deformed]] Corvette Stingray when laid on his back. When the car is stood back up, it returns to its boxy robot mode.

: The toy features no [[articulation]] whatsoever, but that doesn't matter because he's awesome.

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[[Image:ROTF-toy_GravityBots_NitroSideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|300px|They were all "he trans''fats'' and ''rolls'' out!" this, "''pie''swipe!" that...]]
*'''Nitro Sideswipe''' (Gravity Bot, 2010)

: A [[redeco]] of regular Gravity Bot Sideswipe, Nitro Sideswipe features maroon windows and black stripes and wheels, very similar to the [[size class|Deluxe Class]] [[#StrikeMission|"Strike Mission" Sideswipe toy]]. He of course retains the same awesome play feature.

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====Robot Replicas====
[[Image:ROTF-toy_RobotReplicas_Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|200px|I haven't sliced anyone up in awhile, I gots the Blue Blades!]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Robot Replicas, 2009)
:Robot Replicas Sideswipe is a non- transforming, but highly detailed and articulated interpretation of his robot mode from the movie. He features highly posable legs, arms, feet, head, waist, neck and shoulders, making him both an awesome kid's toy and display piece.
:Funnily enough, despite the Robot Replica promise of total movie-accuracy, his arm-blades are [[For safety reasons|considerably shortened]] and are a weird metallic blue colour, rather than the silver/gray you might expect.

:Sadly, his "Wheel feet" do not roll, making Sideswipe somewhat imobilized.

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====Power Bots====
[[Image:ROTF-toy_PowerBots_Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Crikey!]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Power Bots, 2009)

: [[Power Bots]] Sideswipe is a bulky, non-transforming toy for younger children. He features limited articulation in his limbs and head, two very blunt swords, and various playing sound clips and flashing lights. He has an North Americanised [[Australia]]n accent!

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===Transformers (2010)===
====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:TF2010_Deluxe_SidearmSideswipe_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|Sideswipe just after [[Tales of the Fallen issue 2|that incident in Buenos Aires.]]]]
*'''Sidearm Sideswipe''' (Deluxe, 2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''AA-06'''
**''Accessories:'' Two flare launchers

:This new sculpt of Sideswipe is designed for greater robot mode accuracy compared to his original Deluxe class mold, and replaces his swords with twin hand-held flare launcher pistols (which were briefly used during the Egypt battle in ''Revenge of the Fallen''). Additionally, the guns can be attached to flip-up panels in vehicle mode and can swivel back to store in vehicle mode. Sideswipe has toe and heel spurs so that he can balance on a flat surface without falling over, a problem that the previous Deluxe Sideswipe suffered. Both the black and silver molded "springs" on his lower legs are compatible with any weaponry using 3mm clips.

[[Image:AutobotAlliance_Deluxe_SidearmSideswipe.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Cue the ''James Bond'' theme.]]

:Hasbro added a red deco design to the front of the car and red windows in an effort to differentiate him from the previous Sideswipe molds. [[stock photography|Stock photos]] on the back package and instructions show the front deco extending to the side panels, giving it a flame appearance. The Japanese [[TakaraTomy]] release of Sidearm Sideswipe drops the less accurate red vehicle mode decos in favour of keeping the silver paint on his wheels, which Hasbro dropped due to budgetary reasons. This release also changed the windows from red to a dark purple.

:His head's [[light-piping]] is sculpted out of the same red plastic as his windows, but his eyes are painted blue. Oddly, Hasbro's stock photos show him with only one eye painted.

:Sidearm Sideswipe was also on the receiving end of a late retool, closing off the tops of the hip balljoint sockets, severely limiting his outward leg motion. There is a perfect outline where the change was made which one can use as a cutting guide if so inclined. This change was likely made to reduce stress on the rubber tubing connected to his thighs.

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[[Image:HFTD huntersrumble sideswipe.jpg|thumb|300px|Damn cat walked on my hood again...]]
*'''Hunters Rumble''' (Target Figure 2-pack, 2010)

:This [[Target]]-exclusive bundle includes redecos of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe-class Sideswipe and ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe-class Interrogator [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]. This may be a reference to their meeting in [[Cyber Missions 6]].

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====Human Alliance====
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[[Image:TF2010 Human Alliance Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|300px|"We're totally buddies who worked together in the film!" "We certainly are, Sideways!"]]
*'''Shadow Blade Sideswipe w/ Mikaela Banes''' (Human Alliance, 2010)
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:''Shadow Blade Sideswipe'' is a redeco of the first Human Alliance Sideswipe in black, with silver stripes, tan robot details and deep blue windows. His human partner is a new mold of [[Mikaela Banes]].
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===Dark of the Moon===
====Cyberverse====
[[Image:DOTM_Cyberverse_Sideswipe_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|BEEFCAAAAAAAAKE.]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2011)
**''Series:'' '''1'''
**''Number:'' '''006'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''CV09'''

:''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' [[Cyberverse]] Sideswipe is a new mold based on his open-top Stingray concept vehicle. He is more [[show-accuracy|screen accurate]] in basic robot mode proportions than the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Legends Class]] Sideswipe. The plastic between his head and the [[Autobot]] insignia is darker than in the [[stock photography]]. Like the rest of DOTM product, and unlike the stock photography, he is entirely dull, unpainted grey plastic.

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[[Image:DOTMUGCVLSideswipe.jpg|thumb|300px|Caramel candy cane.]]
*'''Ultimate Gift Set''' (Cyberverse multi-pack, 2011)
:A redeco of the mold above.

:He comes in a [[Walmart]]-[[exclusive]] 5-pack with redecos of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Ultimategift|Optimus Prime]], [[Powerglide (DOTM)#Ultimategift|Powerglide]], [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Ultimategift|Bumblebee]], and [[Crowbar#Ultimategift|Crowbar]].

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:DOTM_MechTechDeluxe_Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|300px|No floorboards; I'm a Flintstones car!]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (MechTech Deluxe, 2011)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''DA08'''
**''Accessories:'' MechTech Blaster/[[Cybertanium]] Sword

:Part of the second wave of ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' ''[[MechTech]]'' Deluxe Class toys, this version of Sideswipe is an all new tooling, with a different transformation scheme compared to the previous Deluxe versions of the character. Sideswipe changes into a Corvette Stingray concept convertible in a light grey/beige color scheme and open top. The interior is highly detailed, with seats, dashboard and steering wheel all molded into the compartment, though it's missing its floorboards. The box art and the instructions can't seem to agree which way the tail lights (which are his toe/heel spurs) are supposed to point in robot mode - the stock photo used on the card and main instruction image show them pointing forward, while the instructions themselves indicate they should point backward, implying it is probably the correct way. His arm blades are now a single piece, rather than the two piece blades from previous molds.

:Underneath the front hood (which ends up on his back) is some sculpted, unpainted faux-[[kibble]] in the form of four circles in a row, which are meant to represent the four exhaust pipes on the back of the vehicle, which usually end up on his back in robot mode. The ''actual'' pipes still end up on his back. They're just near his waist.

:Sideswipe's MechTech weapon, a large blaster, can convert to a runed Cybertanium sword with the press of a button. The weapon can be stored in any of the three MechTech ports in either mode, all of which include the spring-loaded filler piece to hide them when not in use. While the box art shows the blade of the flip-out sword painted blue with white [[Cybertronix]] runes, the final version opts for bare gunmetal plastic instead.

:The figure suffers from a small design flaw in that the front hood of the car is attached by such tiny pegs that it pops off quite easily.

:This mold was [[retool]]ed into [[Darksteel]].

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[[Image:DOTM_Deluxe_Scan_Sideswipe_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|"How can I stab things if my blades keep disappearing like that!?"]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Deluxe, 2011)

:This redeco of Deluxe class ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Sideswipe is [[exclusive]] to [[Toys"R"Us]]' Mission Earth: The Scan Series, to represent him [[Trans-scan|trans-scanning]] his vehicle mode. As such, nearly all of his vehicle mode parts (and thus, most of his robot mode) are cast in translucent clear plastic, with the rear of his vehicle mode being left unpainted, the middle having painted scan lines, and the front having a heavy amount of [[paint operation]]s in order to cover the clear plastic.
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[[Image:DOTM_Deluxe_Walmart_Sideswipe_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|After much consideration, Sideswipe finally decided to join the X-Men.]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' Two flare launchers

: This version of Sideswipe is a [[Walmart]]-exclusive redeco of Sidearm Sideswipe. Featuring a new racing-themed deco, he is one of the most fanwank-filled mass released toys ever, featuring a small [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTech]] [[:Image:Transtech Autobot symbol.png|Autobot symbol]] on the rear fenders, an endorsement of "[[Lithone (planet)|Lithonian Drivetrain]]" on the front fenders, another for "[[Maccadam's Old Oil House|Maccadam's]]" on his trunk, one further logo that for "[[Sunstreaker (disambiguation)|Sun bro]]", another ad for "[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]] [[Rattrap|Rattraps]]" (with the slogan "Safe. Humane. Yeah, right!" underneath), and finally the number 04, a nod to [[Sideswipe (G1)|the original Sideswipe's]] [[Japanese ID number list|Japanese ID number]]. Oh, and he's particularly [[Sideswipe (G1)#Generation_2_2|blue and yellow]].

: Sideswipe's stock photos are slightly different from the final product, rendering his 04 in a different, non-italicized font and the front portion of the car mode having a strange faint checkerboard pattern painted on.

: He also looks not unlike ''[[Speed Stars]]'' [[Bluestreak (Speed Stars)|Bluestreak]].

: He was made available the UK as a Sainsbury's exclusive, and in Australia and New Zealand as a [[Kmart]] exclusive.
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====Human Alliance====
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[[Image:DOTM_FlashFreezeAssault_toys.jpg|thumb|300px|"Right, here's the plan, buddy: I'll go fight the giant killer alien robot, and you... what ''do'' you do, anyway?"]]
*'''Flash Freeze Assault''' (Human Alliance multi-pack, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:The Sideswipe included in this multi-pack is a redeco of Human Alliance Sideswipe in gray, black and green with white and black decorative stripes. He comes with a redeco of Human Alliance [[Icepick (PCC)|Icepick]] and the human figure [[Sergeant Chaos]], who is shown riding Sideswipe in stock photos despite being evil Icepick's partner. It also shows Sideswipe holding Icepick in his weapon mode, with a legally-cautious sticker saying "SIDESWIPE '''CANNOT''' HOLD WEAPON" at the back, as Sideswipe's Human Alliance mold isn't designed to and cannot hold MechTech [[5mm post|post]]s.

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====Robo Power====
=====Go-Bots=====
[[Image:DOTM_Go-Bots_Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|300px|wen i grow up i wanna be a astwonaut!!!]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (2011)

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==Merchandise==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
====RPMs - Robot Powered Machines====
[[Image:ROTF-toy_RPM_Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|300px|He's got such an ego, he gets a tattoo of ''himself''!]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (2009)
**''Series:'' '''Speed Series'''
**''Number:'' '''04 of 04'''

:''[[Robot Powered Machines]]'' Sideswipe is a small, non-transforming car with his robot mode sculpted underneath. Said robot mode has his swords colored red, for some reason. The car's wheels feature through-axle construction for speedy racing on flat surfaces.

[[Image:RPM_Sideswipe_leakedproto.jpg|thumb|left|200px|]]

:Although leaked images of a [[prototype]] that surfaced in 2008<ref name="rpmproto">[http://jalopnik.com/5047177/leaked-transformers-corvette-centennial-concept-toy-possibly-reveals-robot-mode Mirrored photos of early R.P.M. Sideswipetoy at Jalopnik.com]</ref> was pretty accurate to the Corvette Stingray car from the movie, the actual RPM Sideswipe toy has been severely altered and looks more like an Aston Martin. Unfortunately, Mattel was able to secure exclusive rights for releasing a Concept Stingray model car at a 1:64 scale for their ''Hot Wheels'' line (the toy was released as part of the "2010 New Models" lineup).

:Even worse, the Mattel toy drops a Transformers reference in its packaging blurb.<ref>"With a futuristic shape based on the original 1959 Stingray race car, this concept car also draws on Corvette cues from other generations, making a sweet "transformation" from old to new." </ref>

:This mold was also used to make ''[[Speed Stars]]'' [[Bluestreak (Speed Stars)|Bluestreak]].

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[[Image:ROTF-toy SideswipeRPMvWreck.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Sideswipe vs. Wreckloose''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Battle Series 2'''
**''Number:'' '''01 of 06'''

:A redeco of RPM Sideswipe with red stripes and a large Autobot insignia on his roof. It was only available in a two-pack with [[Wreckloose (ROTF)|Wreckloose]].

: As part of the final wave of RPMs, Battle Series 2 did not get released through normal retail outlets in the United States, instead showing up for sale first in Canada, Asia and Europe. Later, though, it would show up in the US though [[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs Express]] mall stores and discount chains like Ross and TJ Maxx.

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[[Image:ROTFRPMMetalHeroesSideswipe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Metal Heroes'''
**''Number:'' '''07 of 08'''

:A redeco of RPM Sideswipe with black door-stripes and a large Autobot insignia on his roof. This series is only known to have been released in Australia, the Philippines, Hong Kong, and other Asian countries. Its deco would later serve as the basis for the ''Speed Stars'' release of "Metal Heroes" Sideswipe.

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[[Image:ROTFRPMRobotRiderSideswipe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Robot Riders'''
**''Number:'' '''01 of 03'''

:"Robot Riders" Sideswipe is a new-mold figure of Sideswipe's robot mode that is built to roll on wheels. This figure was only released in Australia, the Philippines, Hong Kong, and other Asian countries. Its deco would later serve as the basis for the ''Speed Stars'' release of "Robot Riders" Sideswipe.

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[[Image:ROTFRPMAllsparkSideswipe.jpg|right|thumb|200px|]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Allspark'''
**''Number:'' '''02 of 04'''

:A redeco of ''RPM'' Sideswipe with blue door-stripes and a large Autobot insignia on his hood. While "Allspark" Sideswipe was officially listed during the run of the ''RPM'' series (on the back of the Asian market release of ''RPM'' "Allspark" Starscream), the only image of it was revealed by a downloadable poster on the official Transformers website of Turkey.

:Its paint layout would later serve as the basis for the ''Speed Stars'' Bluestreak toy.

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[[Image:ROTFRPMNESTSideswipe.jpg|right|thumb|200px|]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''N.E.S.T. Global Alliance'''
**''Number:'' '''04 of 04'''

:A redeco of ''RPM'' "Robot Riders" Sideswipe in dark grey with gold-painted arm hubcaps. While "N.E.S.T. Global Alliance" Sideswipe was officially listed during the run of the ''RPM'' series (on the back of the Asian market releases of ''RPM'' "N.E.S.T. Global Alliance" Bumblebee, Optimus Prime and Ironhide), the only image of it was revealed by a downloadable poster on the official Transformers website of Turkey.

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====Robot Heroes====
[[Image:Robotheroessideswipesideways.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Still needs training wheels.]]
*'''Sideswipe and Sideways''' (2009)
: Sideswipe is part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' figures and is packaged versus [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]. He has rotational articulation at both shoulders, but his head is molded into his torso. In order to stand up, the figurine must rest its weight on one of his arms.
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[[Image:Robotheroestwinswidewaysprimedemolishorsideswipe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|"Damn, I'm cute."]]
*'''Shanghai Shootout''' (Multi-pack, 2009)
:Shanghai Shootout replicates the opening action scene from ''Revenge of the Fallen'', featuring figurines of [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]/[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] (ice cream truck), [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] (vehicle mode), [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]], and Sideswipe (vehicle mode). Demolishor is a slightly-oversized figure and the centerpiece of the box set.

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===Speed Stars===
====Mini-Vehicles====
[[Image:SpeedStars-toy SideswipeVWreck.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Sideswipe vs. Wreckloose''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Battle Series 2'''
**''Number:'' '''01 of 06'''

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Speed Stars]]'' Mini-Vehicle versus packs, this Sideswipe is a more widely-released version of the ''RPMs'' Battle Series 2 pack, coming with [[Wreckloose (ROTF)#Speed Stars|Wreckloose]]. And like Wreckloose, this version has quite a few changes from the barely-released ''RPMs'' version. The shiny silver overspray is gone, leaving a more matte silver plastic. The twin red stripes have been turned into a single large stripe. And the relief of his robot mode, now cast in red plastic instead of brown, is now done entirely in a single shade of silver, plus the raised "SIDESWIPE" at his "feet" is completely unpainted.

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[[Image:SpeedStars_RobotRiders_Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|200px|]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Robot Riders'''
**''Number:'' '''01 of 03'''

: The ''Speed Stars'' version of "Robot Riders" Sideswipe has less paint details than the RPM version, and replaces the dark silver paint with a brighter silver, among many other changes.

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[[Image:SpeedStars_MetalHeroes_Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Metal Heroes'''
**''Number:'' '''07 of 08'''

: The ''Speed Stars'' version of "Metal Heroes" Sideswipe is mostly the same, but has unpainted headlights, tail-lights, and rear bumper, and his robot mode has less painted details. He lacks the sculpted insignia on his underside.

: During the period between 26 December 2010 and 31 January 2011, Hasbro ran their "Supercharge Your Holidays" promotion: for every $20 spent on Hasbro-branded product, customers could receive a free, random product from a list provided by Hasbro. Among the items on the list were "Transformers Combiners and Speed Star Mini-Vehicle" and "Transformers Activator and Speed Star Mini-Vehicle." According to [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=75487 this discussion thread on Allspark.com], Speed Stars Metal Heroes Sideswipe was one of the figures distributed.

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===Dark of the Moon===
====Speed Stars====
[[Image:SpeedStars_StealthForce_MiniChangers_SideswipeVsStarscream.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Stealth Force Sideswipe Vs. Starscream''' (2011)

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[[Image:SpeedStars_StealthForce_MiniChangers_Sideswipe&SentinelPrime.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Stealth Force Sideswipe & Sentinel Prime''' (2011)

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==Notes==
[[Image:ROTF Sideswipe concept art.jpeg|thumb|right|300px|There was a time he would have had feet.]]
[[Image:RPMSpeedStarSideswipeUnknown.jpg|thumb|300px|... [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]]?]]

* On June 11, 2008, blurry camera phone photos from the set of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' offered the first look at Sideswipe's vehicle mode, which was believed to be a 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 at that time.<ref name="fairmont">[http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2008/06/new-concept-car-at-fairmont-park-base.html Blurry set photos from Fairmont Park]</ref> Ten days later, leaked photos offered a better look at the car being painted by Saleen, which was now revealed to be a never-seen-before Corvette model.<ref name="corvettesaleen">[http://jalopnik.com/396734/transformers-corvette-concept-z28-bumblebee-get-a-close+up Photo of the Corvette being painted by Saleen at Jalopnik]</ref> On August 7, 2008, Jalopnik claimed having received information that the car was a so-called "Corvette Centennial Concept".<ref name"centennial">[http://jalopnik.com/5034285/exclusive-the-transformers-mystery-car-is-the-corvette-centennial-design-concept Jalopnik's story on the "Corvette Centennial Concept"]</ref> [[General Motors]] finally admitted the car's existence at the Chicago Auto Show in February of 2009, now confirming that it was, in fact, a new Corvette Stingray concept.

* Rumored names for Sideswipe in the early days of the movie shooting were "Hot Rod"<ref name="upclose">[http://jalopnik.com/398892/up+close-photos-of-mystery-corvette-concept-from-new-transformers-movie More shots of the Corvette at Jalopnik], July 2009</ref> (which might have been a case of fans simply suggesting a random name and other fans subsequently treating it as gospel) and "Stinger". The latter originated with a (real) call sheet leaked in June 2008, which suggests that "Stinger" was an actual working name.<ref name="bethcall">[http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2008/06/bethlehem-call-sheet-cast-tf-and-next.html Leaked call sheet at the Transformers Live Action Movie Blog], July 2008</ref>

*An unreleased red and white redeco of the ''Robot Powered Machines'' Sideswipe mold was displayed at [[Toy Fair 2010]], amongst a mix of cancelled ''RPM'' and planned ''Speed Stars'' vehicles. Nobody knows what its deal is, and with the wholesale cancelling of the segment, probably never will.

* According to [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] in [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|Titan Magazine]]'s "[[Transformers Comic issue 2.13|Law and Disorder]]" letters section, Sideswipe has a relative named [[Sunstreaker (ROTF)|Sunstreaker]].

* The only thing more important to Sideswipe than looking good while being awesome... is [[Primus|God]].<ref>When Megatron mocks art of [[Primus]], Sideswipe objects: <tt>"YOU CANNOT LAUGH AT YOUR OWN CREATOR-GOD, YOU STUPID METAL LUMP!"</tt> in [[Transformers Comic issue 3.3]].</ref>

* For ''Dark of the Moon'', Sideswipe's alternate mode as a Chevrolet Corvette Stingray concept car was changed from the hardtop version as seen in ''Revenge of the Fallen'' into a convertible. He does still sport a hardtop when he changes into his Stealth Force mode, however.

* Sideswipe is the only character in the movie series to have been recast between films.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Sideswipe''' (サイドスワイプ ''Saidosuwaipu'')

==References==
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Death

2012-05-06T02:27:07Z

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{{disambig2|the end of life|the Horseman of Unicron|Airazor (Armada)}}

[[Image:Battleofautobotcity.jpg|right|300px|thumb|And lo, the children did weep.]]

''Transformers'' is a children's franchise, but at its core, it's a story of war. This means that the '''death''' of major and minor characters sometimes figures into the fiction.

Given the ambiguous nature of [[Transformer]] physiology, there is very little consistency regarding what is fatal to a Transformer, even within a single storyline. Damage that one Transformer might shrug off can prove fatal to another, or even to the same character in a different story. Sometimes just a laser blast or two will do the trick. Other times, characters survive being melted, crushed into cubes, and even utterly disintegrated. It does not take a terribly cynical viewer to conclude that the threshold of survival is generally determined by the needs of the plot.

The out-of-universe reasons for a character's death can vary from plot development to the arrival of [[To sell toys|new toys]]. Conveniently enough for writers who are beholden to the whims of a toy company, the majority of Transformers characters are machines, which means that death isn't necessarily permanent. Across the various universes, characters that appear to have been killed have been known to pop up alive again at a later date, or go through some sort of resurrection.

{{quote|"How can you all be so cold and unfeeling? He died a hero!" "Don't you even have mechanical hearts?" "The humans don't understand! Our form of life is vastly different from theirs!"|[[Spider-Man]], [[Sparkplug Witwicky]], and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]|"[[Prisoner of War!]]"|noquote=true}}

==In-fiction causes of death==
[[Image:DEATH.jpg|left|thumb|400px|[[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] is just as puzzled as the rest of us.]]

There is little consistency in what can kill a Transformer. Sometimes it takes just a shot. Other times, even totally annihilating a Transformer's body still doesn't do the trick. Even the most basic method of killing, which is to destroy or otherwise cause the loss of a Transformer's [[spark]], varies quite a bit in its details from story to story, character to character, and series to series.
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===Weaponsfire===
{{bigquote|This was almost too easy, Starscream!|[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (like the fandom) is surprised to find how easily Autobots die, ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''}}

[[Image:Tftm1986a.jpg|right|200px|thumb|We're here aboard the Autobot shuttle, where we've secretly replaced Brawn's hyper-dense metal armor plating with styrene plastic. Let's see if anyone can tell the difference.]]

[[Image:TFTM UltraMagnus dies.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Prepare for your death today. Yer gonna die!!]]

[[Image:Magnusdeath.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Ow! Hey! Cut it out, guys! That hurts!]]

[[Image:Blades1.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Sorry, [[Outpost B-67 exo-structuring party|nameless guy]], your generic nature means you will never be miraculously resurrected.]]

Like humans, Transformers can be killed by damage caused by energy, projectile, and chemical weapons. Just how many shots it takes is widely variable, however.
* In the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]]:
** Many casualties of the [[Battle of Autobot City]] (and its run-up), including [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]], [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]], and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], were victims of energy weapons. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}} This was quite a change from the cartoon's M.O., wherein the same characters routinely got shot and blasted all the time and shrugged it off, or at worst spent some time in the repair bay. Brawn and Prowl both went down after ''one shot''.
** [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] subsequently "dies" after being shot a few times by the [[Sweep]]s, exploding into pieces. He is soon revived by the [[Junkion (species)|Junkions]], however. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}
** In the Japanese continuity, Ultra Magnus dies ''again'', for real this time, after [[Sixshot]] shoots him a few times. {{storylink|Ultra Magnus Dies!!}}
* In the [[Marvel Comics continuity|Marvel comics]]:
** [[Impactor]] was cut down by a single head shot from [[Macabre]]. {{storylink|Target: 2006}}
** Most deaths in the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)|Generation 2]]'' book occurred from energy weapons, such as [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]], {{storylink|Devices and Desires! (Marvel)|Devices and Desires!}} as well as numerous generics. {{storylink|War Without End!}} Quite a few victims exploded spectacularly after being shot, including [[Tantrum]], {{storylink|The Gathering Darkness}} [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]], [[Quake (G1)|Quake]], {{storylink|New Dawn}} and [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]]. {{storylink|Escalation!}}
* In the ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon:
** [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] dies after incurring severe damage from numerous [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] weapons. {{storylink|Code of Hero}} The apparent cause of his demise is his refusal to enter protective [[stasis lock]], as other characters have survived similar or worse levels of damage.
** [[Tigerhawk]] is disintegrated by the main cannon of the starship ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]''. The same cannon subsequently blasts [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] and [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]], apparently killing them, though their "death" may be permanent simply because there was nobody around to put them back together. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 2}}
* ''Armada'' cartoon: [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] dies holding back the [[Hydra Cannon]], the damage causing him to [[:Image:Sshot-arm-39-4.jpg|crumble to dust]]. {{storylink|Crisis}}
* [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] G1 comics: [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] is killed by an assassin's blast. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath}} He got better. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 3|Prime Directive #3}}
* [[Movie continuity]]:
**[[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]] and [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] both died from weapons fire. {{storylink|Transformers (film)|Transformers}}
**A crapload of [[Protoform]]s were shot down by [[NEST]] soldiers. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
**[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] and [[Elita-One (Movie)|Elita-One]] may have been killed by the [[Buffalo MPV Decepticon]], but the movie is pretty vague. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}} [[Rising Storm|or not]].
** [[Crowbar |Crowbar]] was shot in the face by Ironhide. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}
**[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] was shot in the back by [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel]]'s Cosmic Rust Blaster.
**[[Wheeljack (Movie)|Que]] was killed by a Decepticon protoform.
** All the [[Appliancebot]]s were killed by [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]].
* "[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]": [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]] gets his face blown off/in by [[Cyclonus (SG)|Cyclonus]]. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 4}}
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* [[Transformers: Universe (comic)|Universe]]: [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] was shot and killed by [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] during the final battle of the [[Universe War]].
* Many goons during the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)| War for Cybertron]] died from being shot. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|War for Cybertron}}

===Big explosions===
{{bigquote|They're going to blow us all to pieces! [[Guardian (Marvel)|Guardian]]'s booby-trapped - packed with enough explosives to level this whole mountain!|[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], "[[The Wrath of Grimlock!]]"}}

Transformers characters often assume that explosions are more lethal than they really are; characters survive explosions all the time. An explosion's messy nature makes a good "out" for a writer to fake a character's death. {{storylink|The Wrath of Grimlock!}} {{storylink|Gone but Not Forgotten!}} {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 2)}} Nevertheless, a few characters have been permanently killed by explosions. (This list omits characters who exploded from within, like Ultra Magnus up above.)
* In the Marvel comics:
** [[Straxus (G1)|Straxus]] was the victim of an interdimensionally triggered explosion that destroyed his body. (In UK continuity, he survived as a raggedy, bodiless head.) {{storylink|The Bridge to Nowhere!}}
** In an alternate future, a wounded [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] died in the fiery explosion of a crashing shuttlecraft. {{storylink|The Legacy of Unicron!}}
** [[Finback]] was presumably killed in the explosion of a huge gun battery. [[Misfire]] tried to warn him off, and may have been killed in the same explosion. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}
** [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]] was killed when a prototype [[pathblaster]] exploded in his face. {{storylink|Time Wars}}
* ''Beast Wars'' cartoon:
** [[Optimus Primal]] was blown to bits — terminally so — by the [[transwarp]] explosion that destroyed the [[Planet Buster]]. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 2}}
** [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]] was killed by the explosion that resulted from [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]]'s death (either his exploding spark, or the exploding energon shard that pierced it.) {{storylink|Nemesis Part 1}}
* Several of the [[Beast Era]] [[Wrecker]]s ([[Sonar (BW)|Sonar]], [[Spittor (BW)|Spittor]], the [[Deployer (BM)|Deployers]]) were destroyed when part of their ship exploded with them in it. {{storylink|Betrayal}}
* Energon: [[Bruticus Maximus (Energon)|Bruticus Maximus]] was killed when Storm Jet caused a massive explosion that engulfed them both.
* ''Prime'': [[Makeshift (Prime)|Makeshift]] and the surrounding [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicon]]s were blown up by a grenade attached by the Autobots. Both the Vehicons and Makeshift were killed in the blast. (According to an interview at [[BotCon 2011]] with the ''Prime'' show runners, Makeshift was deemed too overpowered to be a regular in the show, so they killed him off at the end of the episode.) {{storylink|Con Job}}
*IDW Continuity: [[Bomb-Burst (G1)|Bomb-Burst]] and [[Skullgrin]] were killed when Springer blew them up with a grenade. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 3}}
* ''Movie Continuty'': [[Crankcase (DOTM)|Crankcase]] blew up when Ironhide kicked him into a gas station. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)}}

===Impact trauma===
Falling off a cliff or mountainside or tall building is usually just as fatal to Transformers as it is to, say... Wile E. Coyote. Only on rare occasion does it result in death:
* ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' continuity: [[Hacksaw]] met his end by falling from a huge communications tower. {{storylink|The New World}}
* IDW G1 continuity: [[Doubledealer]] was shot, fell off a mountain and smashed to bits on impact. {{storylink|Spotlight: Doubledealer}}
* Movie continuity:
**[[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] fell off the [[Great Pyramid of Giza]] after losing his balance when his arm was shot off, and he shattered to pieces as he tumbled down. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
** [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] was smashed to pieces and killed by being flung into a freeway column. {{storylink|Movie Adaptation issue 4|Movie Adaptation Issue Number Four}}
** [[Hatchet]] met his end when [[Mirage (Movie)|Dino]] sent him in crashing into a car.
* The [[Beast (G1)|Beast]] fell off a cliff and shattered. {{storylink|The Beast Within Part 2, Consequences}} At least, we hope that's where and how it ended.
* ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)| Prime]]'': [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]] crash-landed after [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] punched out vital components in his alternate mode, reducing his body to a partially transformed scrapheap.

===Crushing===
[[Image:Edgeofextinction-hardheadbombburst.jpg|thumb|right|175px|DO NOT WANT]]

Quite a few characters have been crushed into deactivation:
* In the Marvel comics:
** [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] was smashed between [[Unicron]]'s palms, while [[Bomb-Burst (G1)|Bomb-Burst]] and [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] met a similar fate when they were stepped on by Unicron. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}
** [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] is apparently killed when a very large building collapses on top of him. {{storylink|Escalation!}}
* [[Unicron Trilogy]] cartoons:
** [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]] is killed when caught between two folding sections of Unicron's external armor. {{storylink|Union}}
** [[Shockblast]] is crushed by Unicron's hand on [[Blizzard Planet]]. {{storylink|The Power of Unicron}}
** His brother [[Six Shot]] meets a similar fate, crushed under the heel of a super-sized Galvatron. {{storylink|Galvatron Terror}}
* IDW continuity:
** [[Roller (G1)|Roller]] was crushed when Megatron caused an avalanche to fall on him.
** [[Ruckus (G1)|Ruckus]], [[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]], and [[Skullcruncher]] were all crushed by [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]].
** [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] was killed when a group of police set fire to a building and let it collapse on him, crushing him.
* Movie continuity:
** [[Dispensor]] was crushed under [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]]'s foot.

===Melting===
[[Image:BW Scorponok Terrorsaur deaths.jpg|right|175px|thumb|Even having a new toy couldn't save Terrorsaur!]]

[[Image:Fallout title.jpg|right|175px|thumb|Primal's diet had gone horribly wrong.]]

They're made of metal; therefore, with enough heat or sufficiently acidic material, they can melt. This is one of the more fool-proof methods of killing a Transformer; few if any have survived it.
* In the G1 cartoon:
** An acid vat would apparently have been enough to destroy Optimus Prime. {{storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}}
** Another acid vat was used to disintegrate living victims of Unicron. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}
* In the Marvel comics:
** Victims of the Deception [[smelting pool]]s on Cybertron were reduced by intense heat into their base metals, including [[Scrounge (G1)|Scrounge]]. {{storylink|The Smelting Pool!}}
** It is possible that an acid bath from (naturally) [[Blot (G1)|Blot]] offlined [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] [[Makin' Tracks!|(for a while anyway)]]. {{storylink|Dark Star}}
** [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] was partially melted by Unicron's flame-breath and subsequently died. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}
** The [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronians]] used some kind of acid to rather messily eradicate some of their Decepticon ancestors, including [[Stranglehold]]. {{storylink|New Dawn}}
* In the Beast Era cartoons:
** [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] and [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] were apparently melted to death after tumbling into a lava pit within the [[Darksyde|Predacon base]]. {{storylink|Aftermath}}
** Optimus Primal's body was seemingly melted into the floor after his climactic face-off with [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]. Considering how many god-like forces were unleashed and conflicting during the battle, his demise may be due to more than simple temperature-induced melting. {{storylink|Fallout}}

===Incineration===
{{bigquote|I saw the end! They died in a cosmic funeral pyre!|[[Shawn Berger]], "[[Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2]]"}}

[[Image:Armada 52 - Prime hangon to Galvatron.jpg|right|175px|thumb|Galvatron died to save everyone and came back ''twice''—you lose, [[Jesus]]!]]

Plasma, energy fields, and stellar atmospheres can all utterly destroy a Transformer's body. Like being melted, being reduced to one's component molecules would seem to be a surefire way of getting killed, but quite a few characters seem able to survive the process as ghosts and/or disembodied sparks:
* Generation 1 cartoon: [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]'s spectacular death at the hands of [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] might be categorized as incineration. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}
* Quite a few characters met this fate in the Unicron Trilogy, but all survived it in some fashion:
** [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]]'s spark persisted within his burnt-out body when he was dropped into the exploding Unicron. {{storylink|Mortal Combat}} {{storylink|Megatron Resurrected}}
** [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]]'s body was obliterated by an expanding energon grid, but his spark survived the process and was placed in a new body. {{storylink|Go for Unicron!}}
** [[Inferno (Energon)|Inferno]] was destroyed when he threw himself into a star, but his spark was salvaged by the Autobots and, again, placed in a new body. {{storylink|Farewell Inferno}}
** And finally, Megatron (Galvatron, whatever) threw himself into Primus's new energon sun to prevent Unicron from possessing him, killing himself yet again. {{storylink|The Sun}} This death was so inconsequential that his subsequent resurrection wasn't even explained! {{storylink|Fallen (episode)|Fallen}}

===Consumption===
{{bigquote|...If we don't find the Matrix, some bad guy's gonna ''eat'' us! Right?|Longtooth, "[[Deadly Obsession]]"}}

[[Image:Wreckers Mutants.jpg|right|200px|thumb|The shocking death of the barely-seen guys with hardly any lines!]]
[[Image:Rocky mecannibal bartender marvel uk 240.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Cannibalism is hilarious, kids!]]

Quite a few critters in the multiverse are equipped to devour giant robots. Being eaten (and, presumably, digested) generally proves fatal:
* In the G1 cartoon:
** Various life forms were routinely devoured by the [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]]s on Quintessa. This included [[Kranix]], a mechanical life form, though not a Transformer. [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] and [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] would have suffered this fate as well, but fought their way free. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}
** Quite a few Transformers found their way into Unicron's gullet, though many survived the experience. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}
* In the Marvel comic:
** The [[Mecannibal]]s ate robots routinely, including quite a few Transformers during their sojourn on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|All the Familiar Faces!}} {{storylink|Out to Lunch!}} There is some indication that they could actually reconstitute their victims from their "recycled" parts, though this is never explicitly shown. {{storylink|Recipe for Disaster!}}
** Unicron skewered [[Brainstorm]] and ate him. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}
** The subsurface-dwelling [[demon]]s devoured [[Runabout (G1)|Runabout]]. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}
** The Swarm "devoured" innumerable Cybertronians and a handful of older-generation Transformers as well, though this was through a molecular process almost akin to incineration. {{storylink|Swarm (issue)|Swarm}} {{storylink|Total War!}} {{storylink|A Rage in Heaven!}}
* The Sharkticons killed two of the [[Mutant (BW)|Mutants]] by gobbling them up. Or ripping them apart. Or both. We don't really know. {{storylink|Betrayal}}
* [[Flanker]] was eaten up and killed by the [[Insecticon (G1)|"Deluxe" Insecticons]].

===Disassembly===

[[Image:Jazz DyingAction.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"HERE'S what I think of your resemblance to your G1 counterpart!"]]

Taking a Transformer apart into its component parts can occasionally kill them:
* Marvel comics:
**[[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] met this fate in an alternate future, when Swoop used a machine to pull him apart into his component pieces. {{storylink|Another Time & Place}}
**A future version of Ultra Magnus may have been killed when a group of Decepticons mobbed him and ripped him up. {{storylink|Time Wars}}
* Movie continuity:
**Being ripped in half by [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] killed [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]]. {{storylink|Transformers (film)|Transformers}}
**[[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] was killed when Bumblebee ripped his spine out, tearing him apart. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
**A Decepticon pilot was ripped to pieces by the Wreckers.
* IDW comic continuity: [[Pyro]] was torn apart and killed while making a final stand against a mass of generic Decepticons. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 5|Last Stand of the Wreckers #5}}
* ''Prime'' cartoon:
** When fighting [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]'s zombie army, [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] recommended dissection to [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]] to "cut" them down to size. How this is more effective then just blasting the living slag out of them is still up for debate. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 4}}
** [[Airachnid]] managed to offline [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] by tearing him limb from limb, leaving only a pile of mutilated body parts in her wake. {{storylink|Crossfire}}

===Decapitation===
{{main|Decapitation}}

[[Image:Cyclonus death.jpg|thumb|right|150px| "CHUK!" is good, but I could really go for a "Shakkooosh" right about now.]]

Sometimes cutting a Transformer's head off is fatal. Sometimes!
* In the Marvel comics:
** The Megatron clone killed Cyclonus by ripping his head off. {{storylink|Dry Run!}}
** Several of the Wreckers were killed by having their heads ripped or blasted off, including Twin Twist and Topspin, respectively. {{storylink|Time Wars}}
** [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] had his head cut off by a propeller fired by [[Leadfoot (G2)|Leadfoot]], presumably (given the ''Generation 2'' book's emphasis on body count) killing him. {{storylink|A Rage in Heaven!}}
* In the movie continuity:
** Characters frequently die by decapitation of some form: [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]], {{storylink|Transformers (film)|Transformers}} and [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
** Decapitation was an inconvenience for [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] the first time. The second time, when the blow actually destroyed most of his head, was fatal.
** [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], [[Laserbeak (DOTM)|Laserbeak]], [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], and [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] are decapitated in the third movie. [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Que]]'s and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]'s heads fell off when they died, possibly to add finality to their demises. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}
** [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]]'s head was crushed by [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]]'s ''bare fist''.
* IDW comic continuity:
** The heads of [[Springarm]] and [[Wheelarch]] are removed and then mockingly put on display to creep out [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Orion Pax]].

===Bifurcation===
[[Image:VictoryUKAnnual.JPG|thumb|right|150px| Ahhhh, there we go...]]

{{bigquote|I have no desire to be carved up into Auto-sushi.|Tracks, "[[Make Tracks]]"}}

Getting chopped in half is pretty graphic for a kids' story, even one about robots, so it doesn't happen very often.
* Marvel comics: In a dream sequence, [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] slices [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] in half, killing him. {{storylink|Victory!}}
* Japanese G1 cartoon: [[Predaking]] gets sliced in half by Dai Atlas. The strike dissects what appears to be an organic brain in his head. {{storylink|Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!}}
* ''Beast Wars Metals'': Terrorsaur was killed by being sliced in half by Primal's mace. {{storylink|Raise the Curtain for Beast Wars Metals!!}}
* Movie continuity: [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] dies when [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]] slices his car mode in two. [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] slices [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] in half at the chest but Mixmaster survived this. Getting his skull stomped off, not so much. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
* War For Cybertron: In the opening, a Decepticon goon was chopped in half by Optimus Prime.

===Destruction of brain===
{{bigquote|Next strike in the neural cluster, yes? Weakest spot on ''all'' Transformers...|[[Death's Head (G1)|Death's Head]], "[[Fire on High!]]"}}

In the early days of the franchise, a Transformer's life force was sometimes understood to be entirely contained within their [[brain module]], most prominently in the Marvel comics. Destroying the brain would kill the Transformer. This premise was eventually passed over in favor of the more esoteric concept of [[spark]]s.
* In the Marvel comics:
** In an alternate future, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] is blasted by [[Death's Head (G1)|Death's Head]], who kills him by extracting and crushing his brain module. {{storylink|The Legacy of Unicron!}}
** The [[Throttlebot]]s ''avoid'' death by having their brain modules removed from their bodies shortly before their bodies are destroyed (by crushing). {{storylink|Toy Soldiers!}}
* Movie continuity:
** Optimus prime kills Sentinel Prime by shooting Sentinel in the head with Megatron's shotgun. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}
* IDW Generation 1 continuity:
** Impactor killed [[Snare]] by crushing his brain module. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 4}}

===Destruction of spark===
{{bigquote|RAW energon! Right through your twisted spark!|Depth Charge to Rampage, "[[Nemesis Part 1]]"}}

[[Image:Skyfallwontbethereforit.jpg|thumb|right|200px|And then he hung Skyfall from his ceiling.]]

Getting stabbed right through the spark is almost always fatal:
* In ''Beast Wars'': The supposedly immortal Rampage was killed when Depth Charge pierced his spark with an energon blade. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 1}}
* ''[[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTech]]'': [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] died when [[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]] rammed his sword right through his chest. {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 6}}
*Energon: [[Constructicon Maximus]] was killed when [[Storm Jet (Energon)|Storm Jet]] impaled and crushed his spark.
* ''Cybertron'': [[Megatron (Armada)#Cybertron cartoon|Galvatron]] died after being impaled with [[Rhisling]] by [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]. {{storylink|Unfinished}}
* Movie continuity: Optimus Prime died when Megatron stabbed him through the chest with his death-lock pincer, followed by a blast from his fusion cannon through the spark chamber. [[The Fallen]] also met his end when Optimus punched through his chest and crushed his spark. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
* ''Beast Machines'' continuity: [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] - already reduced to a spark within the matrix - ceased to be when Megatron annihilated his spark from existence. {{storylink|Singularity Ablyss}}
* [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|Titan's Movie comics]]: Transformers have forcefields shielding their sparks, which can be externalized to protect bodywork. Jazz loved doing this, leaving him far more vulnerable to death by destruction of spark than he would otherwise be. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 6|Lost in Space 4: Jazz}}

===Loss of spark===
{{bigquote|Warning. Further expenditure will result in permanent loss of spark. Stasis lock ''must'' commence.|[[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]]'s internal computer, "[[Code of Hero]]"}}

[[Image:Jetstorm_with_extractor.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Lost, stolen, whatever...]]

Sometimes sparks can survive outside of a body; sometimes they cannot. In the Beast Era, there is some indication that a spark left outside a body will soon begin to return to the Matrix/AllSpark/another dimension.
* When Dinobot expires after his final battle, his Spark is seen exiting his body. The implication is that a sufficiently damaged body can no longer hold a spark within this dimension. {{storylink|Code of Hero}}
* ''Beast Machines'' subsequently showed living sparks existing outside of bodies on a regular basis. The sparkless bodies were simply considered shells, rather than "dead", due to the fact that the sparks were forcibly removed with a [[spark extractor]].
* ''Animated'' cartoon: Prowl dies when he intentionally relinquishes his own spark. {{storylink|Endgame, Part II}}
* Movie continuity: Jetfire rips out his own spark chamber to give Optimus a fighting chance. The Fallen also meets the similar fate, Optimus punching through his spark chamber and crushing his spark. Ouch. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

===Energy overload===
{{bigquote|We may need energon for power, but this is too much of a good thing.|[[Optimus Primal]], "[[Beast Wars (Part 1)]]"}}

[[Image:TFAnimated transformandrollout DEATH.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Death — the Optimus version of a power nap.]]
[[Image:Underbaseallmine.jpg|thumb|right|200px|He's got an Underbase in his underpants.]]

The average [[human]] needs a lot of [[water]] to survive. But too much water results in [[wikipedia:Water intoxication|a horrible death]]. Similarly, Transformers need energy to survive, but too much of it can be a very bad thing. Sometimes it's just plain old energy; other times it some special god-like force that does them in.
* In the Marvel comics:
** An [[Underbase]]-empowered Starscream slaughtered dozens of Transformers with energy blasts, {{storylink|Dark Star}} which reportedly burned out millions of their [[microchip]]s. {{storylink|Guess Who the Mecannibals Are Having for Dinner?}} Some Transformers were seen to recover from these attacks, either via conventional repairs {{storylink|All the Familiar Faces!}} or through the power of [[nucleon]]. {{storylink|The Void! (US)}}
** Starscream himself was killed when he absorbed all the energies of the Underbase. {{storylink|Dark Star}}
** [[Landmine (G1)|Landmine]] was apparently killed when struck by a blast of energy from the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]], though the physical effect was more like being hit by an especially powerful laser blast. {{storylink|All Fall Down|All Fall Down (issue)}}
* ''Super-God Masterforce'' cartoon: [[Sixknight]] died from an overcharge of BlackZarak's Devil Power. {{storylink|Malevolent and Inhuman! The True Form of Devil Z}}
* IDW G1 continuity: [[Runabout (G1)|Runabout]] dies when one of the [[Reaper]]s zaps him full of energy, causing him to explode from within. {{storylink|Devastation issue 6}}
* Movie continuity: [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] was killed when [[Sam Witwicky]] shoved the [[AllSpark]] into his chest. {{storylink|Transformers (film)|Transformers}} [[Evac (Ride)|Evac]] did the same thing with the Allspark shard with Megatron {{storylink|Transformers: The Ride}}
* ''Transformers Animated'' cartoon: [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] got caught in an explosion of [[AllSpark]] energy that may have been sufficient to kill him, although he also fell off a very tall building immediately afterwards (Starscream was caught in the same explosion and survived, but was knocked offline for an unspecified period.)

===Energy depletion===
On rare occasion, Transformers can simply run out of energy completely and expire.
* Marvel comics: the ancient [[Overlord (rank)|Overlord]] died from a lack of energy. {{storylink|State Games}}
* Movie continuity: [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] explains that a lack of energon causes the Transformer equivalent of aging, such as rusting joints, mental confusion, and pieces falling apart, followed by an indefinite period of stasis that can only be reversed by an infusion of Allspark energy. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
* [[Vector Prime|Vector Prime]] dies after he helps the crew to time travel. {{storylink|Guardian (episode)|Guardian}}

===Suicide===
Sometimes a Transformer kills himself for some reason.
* Marvel comics
** Dirge and Nightbeat, rather than be eaten by the Swarm, self destructed.
* ''Beast Wars''
** Transformers can deliberately override the stasis lock protocols, even if this will result in death. {{storylink|Code of Hero}}
** In the final battles, Depth Charge allowed himself to be blown up killing Rampage and Rampage let Depth Charge kill him {{storylink|Nemesis Part 1}}. [[Dinobot II]] let himself go down with the ''Nemesis''. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 2}}
* ''Energon'': Galvatron, Starscream, and [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Mirage]] threw themselves into a sun and vaporized themselves. [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Snow Cat]] and Demolishor may have also done this.
* ''Revenge of the Fallen'': Jetfire ripped out his entire spark housing for Optimus Prime to have enough power to kill The Fallen.

==Non-fatal deactivation==
{{quote|"You mean he's still alive?!" "No! But neither is he what you would term 'dead'!"|[[Spider-Man]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], "[[Prisoner of War!]]"|noquote=true}}

[[Image:Zombiesbackfromthedead.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Braiiiiiin mooooodulllllles....]]

For almost every single cause of death listed above, there's been one or more Transformers who have survived it, sometimes without so much as a period of unconsciousness.

In particular, "deactivation" is the Transformers equivalent of being in a coma. Numerous Transformers are seen to enter this state and eventually recover, such as the Autobots deactivated by Shockwave, {{storylink|The Last Stand}} who later were repaired. However, the line between death and deactivation is a blurry one. Sometimes the two words are used interchangeably, even in reference to characters who are later revived. Most of Starscream's Underbase victims were described as deactivated, and were sometimes lamented as "dead" while at other times were shown undergoing repairs. {{storylink|Back from the Dead}} {{storylink|Gone but Not Forgotten!}} {{storylink|The Gathering Storm}}

"[[Stasis lock]]" would eventually give a more concrete name to the state of deactivation. The inert Transformers on the crashed Ark were retconned as being in stasis lock. Various ''Beast Wars'' characters would go into stasis lock to maintain their spark when their body had sustained too much damage from weaponsfire or energon absorption. ''Animated'' showed a crew of Autobots voluntarily entering protective stasis lock in anticipation of a crash landing.

Some of the quasi-fatal things which can cause a Transformer to "deactivate" include:

===Impact trauma===
Smashing into something usually knocks out a Transformer, but almost never actually kills them:
* The crew of the original [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] is deactivated when the ship crashes on Earth and lies inert for 4 million years {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 1}} {{storylink|The Transformers (issue)}}
** ''Dark of the Moon'' also has the Ark crash onto the moon and offline the crew.
* Marvel comics: [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] falls to his "death", but is patched together and talking again in short order. {{storylink|Prisoner of War!}}

===Decapitation===
[[Image:Sentinelprimeanimatedhumiliated.jpg|thumb|200px|In the movie continuity, this would've been fatal. In ''Animated'', it's just embarrassing.]]

{{bigquote|Anyone who can lop your head off in one blow is alright by me!|[[Landmine (G1)|Landmine]] jokes about [[Cloudburst]]'s near-death experience, "[[Recipe for Disaster!]]"}}

Like we said before, decapitation is sometimes fatal... and other times it isn't.
* Marvel comic:
** Optimus Prime was able to survive as just a head when Shockwave separated it from his body in an effort to get the Creation Matrix. {{storylink|The New Order}}
**[[Cloudburst]] was abruptly decapitated by sword, but was just fine after some repairs. {{storylink|Recipe for Disaster!}}
* G1 cartoon: Optimus Prime was disassembled into his component parts, but functioned just fine as nothing more than a head once [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] connected a few wires. {{storylink|City of Steel}}
* ''Beast Wars'' cartoon: [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] survives having his head blasted or otherwise knocked off multiple times, {{storylink|Spider's Game}} {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 2}} {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 1)}} {{storylink|Code of Hero}} and even put it back on himself one time. He even accidentally swapped heads with Megatron once. Megatron was not amused. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)}} And let's not even get started on how many times [[Waspinator |Waspinator]] has lost his head.
* IDW G1 continuity: [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] was just fine when one of the Reapers whacked his head off. (He didn't fare so well when another Reaper crushed his head with a boulder, however.) {{storylink|Devastation issue 6}}
* ''Animated'' cartoon: Decapitated victims of the ''Animated'' [[Headmaster (Animated)|Headmaster]] rarely show any ill effects other than not having a body anymore. {{storylink|Headmaster (episode)|Headmaster}} {{storylink|The Return of the Headmaster}} {{storylink|A Bridge Too Close, Part II}}
* Movie Continuity: Frenzy survived his first decapitation by [[Mikaela Banes]].

===Dismemberment===
Transformers get ripped to pieces all the time, and recover from it:
* Marvel comic: Scorponok tears [[Tantrum]] to pieces. [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] slices [[Horri-Bull]] in half at the waist. Both are seen alive later on. {{storylink|Cold War!}}
* Last Stand of the Wreckers: [[Guzzle (G1)|Guzzle]] is torn in half by [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] and is easily repaired.

===Spark removal===
{{bigquote|His spark can't exist outside a living body!|[[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]], "[[Optimal Situation]]"}}

A Transformer's spark—their "soul", their living essence—can be removed from their body, or the body can be destroyed around them
* The destruction of Starscream's body, and his subsequent survival as a ghost, was eventually retconned to be his Spark enduring without a physical form. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}} {{storylink|Starscream's Ghost}} {{storylink|Possession}}
* ''Beast Wars'' cartoon: Tigatron and Airazor's sparks spent quite some time wandering around behind Tigerhawk, before combining and entering his body. {{storylink|Other Victories}}
* In the ''Beast Machines'' cartoon:
** Megatron de-sparked most of Cybertron's population and stored their sparks in a big barrel. Most were restored to bodies eventually. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future}}
** Blackarachnia's spark wandered around bodiless for a time. {{storylink|Revelations Part III: Apocalypse}}
** Megatron himself, his spark in a depolarized state, wandered the surface of Cybertron without a body for a time. {{storylink|Spark of Darkness}}

The treatment of bodiless sparks in ''Beast Machines'' is seen by some fans as contradicting the canon established by ''Beast Wars'', particularly the quote above.

===Limbo===
Sometimes Transformers get shunted out of creation as we know it, and into various alternate, sub- and non-dimensions.
* Marvel comics:
** The [[trans-time dimensional portal]] crosses [[unspace]], "a bit of dimensional nothingness" where Ratchet and Megatron vanished and were believed dead. {{storylink|The Gathering Storm}}
** Transformers mass-displaced by time travel wind up in a formless dimension known as [[Limbo]].
* IDW comics: Megatron severely damaged Optimus Prime in battle and planned on finishing him off by crushing his [[Laser core|spark core]]. Optimus Prime feigned death by downloading his "consciousness" into his [[Combat Deck (G1)|trailer section]], causing his [[Brain Center|robot mode]] to appear dead. In the time it took for Prime's consciousness to transfer to his trailer, he briefly entered [[infraspace|limbo]], the transitional infraspace between life and death. {{storylink|The Transformers: Escalation|Escalation}}
*Generation 1 cartoon:
**Come on, we all know what REALLY happened to the likes of Seaspray and Tracks.

==Resuscitation==
Robots are machines. They can be switched off, taken apart, blown to bits, and put back together. Ergo, in many continuities and cases, "death" is not nearly as permanent a condition as it is for us fragile fleshy types.

===Reconstruction===
[[Image:PeoplePower-reprogrammed.jpg|thumb|right|250px| ]]

{{bigquote|I've done it! Optimus Prime lives!|A random Quintesson, "[[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1]]"}}

* Generation 1 cartoon: Optimus Prime was simply ''repaired'' back to life by a Quintesson. Some fixing of this and that, a burst of power, and boom, suddenly he was alive again. {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1}}
* Marvel comics: Optimus Prime's mind was encoded on a disk. After a new [[Powermaster]] body was constructed for him, the disk's contents were loaded into it, and Optimus Prime lived again. (One wonders why they couldn't make as many Optimus Primes as they pleased.) {{storylink|People Power!}}

===Spark transfer===
Transferring a Transformer's spark into a new body constitutes a form of resurrection, particularly if the Transformer's previous body was destroyed.
* ''Beast Wars'' cartoon: Optimus Primal was restored to life when Rhinox managed to recall his spark from the Matrix, a special circumstance only enabled by a temporary window into transwarp space. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)}}
* "Beast Machines" various Vehicon generals were brought to life by placing other Transformer's sparks into them.
* ''Armada'' Smokescreen was shot through the chest at point blank range by the Requiem Blaster {{storylink|Sacrifice}} but his spark survived and was put into a new body. {{storylink|Regeneration}}
* ''Energon'' cartoon: Inferno and Demolishor both had their bodies ''atomized''; however, their sparks both survived, and were placed into new bodies. (The upshot of all of this is that it's nigh-impossible to kill a Unicron Trilogy Transformer, unless they do it themselves.) {{storylink|Go for Unicron!}} {{storylink|Farewell Inferno}}
* ''Animated'' cartoon: The spark of a dying [[Yoketron (Animated)|Yoketron]] was placed into a new protoform body by [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]]; however, Yoketron consciously chose to let his life end, and expired anyway. {{storylink|Five Servos of Doom}}

==="Magical" substances===
* Marvel comics: The miraculous healing properties of Nucleon brought many Autobots back to life, as well as a few Decepticons. {{storylink|The Void! (US)|The Void!}}
* ''Energon'' cartoon: Megatron was revived by the all-encompassing power of energon, as was Unicron. {{storylink|Megatron Resurrected}}

===Primus and Primus-related powers===
{{bigquote|Where the Last Autobot is concerned, even death, it would appear, is an abstract concept!|Optimus Prime explains his latest revival, "[[End of the Road! (US)|End of the Road!]]"}}

Anything tied to the primordial life-force of the Transformers' god Primus tends to be a cure-all for death. This includes Primus himself, his various power-wielding avatars and servants, and the assorted Matrixes and Allsparks, all of which can deliver an infusion of the essence of life itself. In some continuities, this is parsed as a Transformer's spark being brought back out of the Allspark dimension.

[[Image:RageInHeaven-HeroPrime.jpg|thumb|right|150px|]]

* In the Marvel comics:
** The [[Last Autobot]] was granted the power of recreation by Primus, which he used to raise numerous fallen Autobots from the battlefield. {{storylink|End of the Road! (US)}}
** Optimus Prime was eager to find the lost Creation Matrix, stating that it would be able to restore many deactivated warriors to life. {{storylink|Bird of Prey!}}
** Optimus Prime was restored to life by the [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]] after it had ingested the energies and knowledge of the Matrix. {{storylink|A Rage in Heaven!}}
* In the movie continuity:
** The Allspark is shown repeatedly to be capable of restoring just about anything. Frenzy gets a whole new body from its power, Bumblebee temporarily gets his voice back, {{storylink|Transformers (film)|Transformers}} and Megatron is restored to life by merely a fragment of it. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
** Optimus Prime was restored to life by the Matrix of Leadership, an Allspark-related talisman. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
** Sentinel Prime is revived after crash landing on the moon by the Matrix of Leadership courtesy of Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}
* Sam Witwicky was brought back alive by the Primes, a creation of [[Primus]].
* ''Beast Machines'' cartoon: [[Optimus Primal]]'s body was destroyed, but the AllSpark granted him the choice of uniting with it or being reborn. He chose the latter, and ''poof'', just walked right out of the Oracle bubble in a brand new version of his previous body. {{storylink|Fallout}}
* ''Armada'' cartoon: [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] was brought back to life by the power of the [[Mini-Con]]s after his body was disintegrated. {{storylink|Miracle}}
* "[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]": [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] was resurrected when he and his gestaltmates were combined together and reborn by Primus into [[Nexus Prime]]. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 5}} Nexus Prime then brought [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]] back from the other side of the Allspark and infused him with some of Primus's power to become Galvatron. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 6}}

===Zombies===
* Dude, [[zombie]]s!

==Immortality==
===Immortal sparks===
Certain sparks have mutant qualities that allow them to, potentially, exist forever.
* Starscream survived his death at the hands of Galvatron; this was later explained as him having a "mutant indestructible spark". {{storylink|Starscream's Ghost}} {{storylink|Possession}} {{storylink|Bad Spark}}
* [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] was created as an attempt to duplicate Starscream's immortal spark. {{storylink|Bad Spark}} He was eventually killed by [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]], so the attempt may be seen as unsuccessful. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 1}}

===Other===
* [[Multiversal singularity|Multiversal singularities]] such as [[Unicron]] and [[The Fallen]] can be killed off in one dimension, only to still be alive and well in another (or many others), due to the varying properties of different dimensions (reverse-time dimensions, for example, are key to revival of the singularities).
* ''Animated'' [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] could not be killed so long as he retained his Allspark fragment embedded in his forehead.
* Denizens of the [[Dead Universe]] could essentially regenerate themselves out of nothing, no matter how much damage was inflicted on them. This ability appears to no longer apply, post-[[Expansion]], except when in direct proximity to the Dead Universe.
* Thunderwing's Pretender shell seemed to make him nearly invincible. At the very least, he was able to withstand incredible amounts of salvo and not even flinch.
* [[Waspinator]] can never completely die no matter what for some reason. It's probably because if he died, the universe wouldn't be able to inflict pain on him anymore.

==Out-of-fiction causes of character death==
===Drama / character culmination===
[[Image:LastStandoftheWreckers5- Ironfistaneurism.jpg|thumb|200px|right|I told you I was ill.]]
At its best, character death can be a moving plot development, the fruition of an ongoing character arc.
* [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] spent much of [[Simon Furman]]'s Marvel US run conflicted and doubting himself, and under the weight of his pre-Headmaster self's reputation. He finally got past this and took the fight to Unicron, dying in the process, his last words asking Optimus if he'd done good. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}
* Suspecting that they would have to remove a character from the show, the writers of ''Beast Wars'' began planning for Dinobot's death several episodes ahead of time. Thus, when it came, it was the outcome of the character's own choices, flaws, and history, and played a crucial role in the show's plot. {{storylink|Code of Hero}}
* Sunstreaker's death in ''[[The Transformers: All Hail Megatron|All Hail Megatron]]'' is intended to follow a similar style of arc... only it's missing the whole choices, flaws and history thing. Oh well!
* Optimus Primal's death(s) in ''Beast Machines'' are likewise the outcome of his own choices and character. {{storylink|End of the Line}} {{storylink| Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future}} His death in ''Beast Wars'', by contrast, was more a moment of dramatic pathos — knowingly walking into danger, his enemy got the better of him. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 2}}
* [[Ironfist (G1)|Ironfist]]'s death in ''[[The Transformers: Last Stand of the Wreckers|Last Stand of the Wreckers]]'' is his main plot arc, quietly built up in the background since the first issue.

===Consequences of war===
[[Image:Bulkhead Eradicon Darkness Rising 3.jpg|thumb|right|200px|His special large intestine! There's only one like it!]]
It's hard to take a war story seriously when nobody actually dies. The reality of war can be more readily portrayed when characters die. [[Generic]]s are particularly handy for this, allowing death to be shown while not removing primary characters (retail toys!) from the story. The results can range from high drama and pathos to numbingly pointless body counts.
* Impactor's death was used to drive home the threat of the Decepticons as well as the risks taken by the Autobots and their commanders. {{storylink|Target: 2006}}
* The ''Generation 2'' book featured several deaths which drove home the realities of war. Most notably, Red Alert's destruction served to make Grimlock acutely aware of just how badly he'd screwed up. {{storylink|Devices and Desires! (Marvel)|Devices and Desires!}}
* Pretty much every death in ''[[The Transformers: Last Stand of the Wreckers|Last Stand of the Wreckers]]'' comes under this.
* [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]], [[Tailgate (Prime)|Tailgate]], [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]] and [[Makeshift (Prime)|Makeshift]] are all killed in their first ''Prime'' episodes, due to just plain bad luck in the first three cases and because of a deliberate Autobot killing in Makeshift's. The [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] are presented as sentient ''and'' as being killed by Autobots in large numbers.

===Increased threat===
An enemy that kills is an enemy to be taken seriously. Thus a writer will frequently throw in some preliminary deaths to point out how seriously the bad guy should be treated.
* The generic who dies at the beginning of "[[City of Fear!]]" serves to show the zombies as a true life-threatening menace.
* Likewise for Runabout's death at the hands of the demons ; {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}} knowing they can devour a Transformer makes the reader more concerned about the Dinobots' subsequent fate. {{storylink|Still Life!}}
* In "[[The Transformers: Last Stand of the Wreckers|Last Stand of the Wreckers]]", [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] makes corpses in practically every scene he's in!
* Cliffjumper in ''Prime'' was set up as a main character and then killed in five minutes, immediately putting the ''Prime'' Decepticons forward as a major threat.

===Cast thinning===
Transformers stories are notorious for acquiring gigantic casts as they roll on; Generation 1 was particularly notorious for this because of its longevity. A simple way to make things more manageable was simply to kill off large numbers of characters in battle. Examples are rife in the fiction, especially the Marvel comics.

* In the Marvel comics:
** The "[[Time Wars]]" storyline got rid of the [[Wrecker]]s and quite a few Decepticons as well.
** The [[Underbase Saga]] even more explicitly cleared out dozens of characters, leaving perhaps 2 dozen characters from each faction in the story.
** The battle with Unicron in "[[On the Edge of Extinction!]]" likewise got rid of a lot of older characters, leaving the story free to concentrate on more of a core cast (and associated newer toy characters.)
* [[Betrayal|Wreckers #2]] dealt with its oversized cast by killing off scads of characters right up front.

===Clear space for new toys===
{{main|To sell toys}}

[[Image:Newyorkunderbase.jpg|thumb|200px|right|(They also cease to appear on store shelves.)]]

Some fiction has an inherently limited capacity for characters. ''Beast Wars'' and ''Beast Machines'' are by far the most prominent examples; their CGI animation made character animation expensive and necessitated removing an old character before a new one could be brought in. But any medium can be susceptible to this toy-driven phenomena.
* The numerous casualties of "[[The Transformers: The Movie]]" were fairly explicitly removed from the story to make way for a wave of new toy/characters.
* Terrorsaur and Scorponok had to be removed — quickly — to make room for the two upcoming Fuzor characters, hence their sudden, blink-and-you-miss-it death in "[[Aftermath]]".
* Airazor and Tigatron were removed for similar reasons. When their plot was finally resolved, it was, surprise, via [[Tigerhawk|a new toy]]!

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==Fleshling death==
In general, ''Transformers'' fiction is pretty squeamish about showing the deaths of Earth's organic creatures. But it's a war, and sometimes it does happen. The out-of-universe reasons generally fall into three categories: Consequences of War, Emotional Pathos, and BLOOD IZ KEWL.

The various cartoons tend to show organic death the least, as they are most clearly aimed at, and easily accessible by, children. Comics tend to be less reluctant to show the impact of the Transformers' war on innocent lives, though the death rate varies by series. Latter-day Generation 1 books especially revel in high body counts, because squishing stupid humans is killer and awesome and radical and hardcore. Even the occasional [[Satellite of Doom|children's storybook]] has been known to off mass quantities of the dumb fleshies.

===Animal death===
[[Image:MurderedPuppy02.jpg|right|150px|thumb|One dead dog]]

[[Image:Sparkwar3 Dead noble.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Two dead dogs]]

Cute little animals are almost always killed off for reasons of Emotional Pathos:
* A little girl's pet puppy named [[Pis]] barked at [[Wilder]] and was kicked so hard he died. {{storylink|Rage!! Little Devils with No Need for Rules}}
* The [[Murdered puppy]] was shot down by the Decepticons after running away from Megatron's experiments. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 8|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #8}}
* [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] reminded [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] that [[The Fallen]] once shot down a ship full of [[Antilian bumble-puppy|Antilian bumble-puppies]]. (Decepticons have a thing for killing puppies.)
* The dog-like [[Noble]] was shot at by [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] because of his hatred for organics {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. III: The Siege}} and was later mourned by his "owner", [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]]. {{storylink|Spark of Darkness}}
* A stray shot from [[Tigatron]] accidentally caused an avalanche which killed his friend [[Snowstalker]]. {{storylink|Law of the Jungle}}
* "[[Law of the Jungle]]" also portrays the deaths of four different forest animals (a bug is eaten by a frog, which is eaten by a snake, which is taken off to be eaten by a bird. Later, an orange tiger kills an antelope). This is a rare "Consequences of War" example.
* [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] also once ate an eagle, {{storylink|Power Surge}} while [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]] ate a cute little rat, {{storylink|Victory (episode)|Victory}} and nearly ate an antelope as well. {{storylink|Code of Hero}}
* In order to save [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]], [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] had to fight a [[saber-toothed cat|saber-toothed tiger]] off a cliff, killing it. {{Storylink|Bad Spark}}
* [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Elita-1]] used [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel]]'s shield to knock a spikey rock onto a giant spider effectively killing it. She later used [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus]]' axe to kill some new born baby spiders. {{Storylink|Along Came a Spider}}
* Human villain [[Trophy White]] had a grisly display of stuffed and mounted animal heads. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.10|Bring Me the Head of Optimus Prime}}
* A vulture was shot when [[Laserbeak (DOTM)|Laserbeak]] landed on Africa.

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===Human death===
[[Image:Razorclawshootsahuman.jpg|right|thumb|150px|This didn't happen much.]]

* Marvel US: The [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|original Marvel book]] ignored or glossed over human casualties, which were rarely if ever shown; the panel at right, from [[Toy Soldiers!|US #37]], shows a ''very'' unusual instance of a human dying right in front of us. One of the few human(oid)s to die on-panel was [[Galen]], killed off to make way for [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]]. ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)|Generation 2]]'' was much more explicit about human death, as Bludgeon and later [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] attacked Earth for the purpose of inflicting casualties.
* Marvel UK: The UK-original stories were much less reluctant to show human death; within the first year or so, humans had died in Autobot-induced car wrecks and at the hands of mind-controlled Autobots.
* In every US-aired cartoon series, humans essentially ''never'' die. Even ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]'', which features the city of [[Detroit]] getting smashed by robot battles virtually every week, never once mentions humans getting killed.
** In [[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|''Transformers: Prime'']], when [[MECH|human terrorists]] are featured they will often die. Piloted or driven vehicles explode and enemies are implied to be crushed.
** A dead human was shown slumped against a wall, a victim of Soundwave.
** When Nemesis Prime attacks the base. It is shown that he has probably killed soldiers.
* Contemporary toyline-based comics (''[[Transformers: Armada (Dreamwave)|Armada]]'', ''[[Transformers: Energon (comic)|Energon]]'') seem to follow a similar policy, avoiding mention of human death — even when human cities are being directly attacked, as in "[[Multiplicity, Pt. 2]]".
* Japanese cartoons, by contrast, don't seem to mind showing human deaths (or [[Pis|dog deaths]], for that matter).
* The [[Dreamwave Generation One continuity|Dreamwave G1 comics]] really thought it was totally awesome and cool and radical to kill off those stupid humans. Thus, they start off with Megatron smushing some stupid humans. More smushing and killing and blowing up follows. DIE, dumb stubbies, DIE!
* [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW comics]] managed to avoid this for a long time, showing human death only when it was particularly integral to the plot... then ''[[The Transformers: All Hail Megatron|All Hail Megatron]]'' came down the pike. DIE, stupid fleshies, DIE!
* The live-action [[movie continuity]] implies a great deal of human death. ''Revenge'' mentions a body count of over 9,000 (don't even ''think'' about it), and massive damage is done during the battle of [[Mission City]], though little of it is shown on screen. And of course, the first film begins with Blackout wiping out an entire military base. A handful of humans are killed directly on-screen, most notably [[Patrick Donnelly|Donnelly]]. Then of course we get to Dark of the Moon, which has Decepticons laying siege to [[Chicago]], killing most of its citizens, including several being shot and exploding and disintegrating into just skulls ''directly in front of the camera''. Then of course we get to [[Laserbeak (DOTM)|Laserbeak]], whose job it is to assassinate civilians, even if it means befriending their children to do it. Twisted.
** [[Dylan Gould]] was killed when he was shoved into [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime's]] space bridge generator, but given he was a villain it's not so much of a concern.
** [[Sam Witwicky]] was killed by Megatron but brought back to life by the Primes.
* The alternate timeline arc in Titan's Movie comic featured big wars on Earth and lots of destruction, clearly ''insinuating'' human death while not being explicit. The exceptions were in [[Transformers Comic issue 10|issue 10]], where [[NATO]] is said to be suffering losses of 11,506 and the [[France|Palais Bourbon]] is blown up when people are still clearly inside. [[Sam Witwicky]], meanwhile, was stated to have died.
[[Image:Convoy-kablooie.jpg|right|thumb|150px|They'll, uh, be okay, maybe.]]
* Titan quite blatantly stated that the [[Free Men]] had caused great loss of life at an air base, a rare example of humans killing humans. In the same story, [[Robert Epps]] opened fire on militia men, which kinda implies he was killing them. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.10|Bring Me the Head of Optimus Prime}} Similarly, [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] of all people was seen zapping humans at close range during a Decepticon attack; with no "oh it was a stun beam" handwave and the 'Cons not pulling punches, it sure seems like he's murdered 'em! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.6|Outlaw Blues}}
* In ''[[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]'', several [[Kiss Player]]s were seen being devoured by Legions.
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==Characters who die a lot==
* [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|Optimus Prime]]
* [[Dirge (G1)]] — the unlucky guy who gets [[:Image:Dirge DeathSerpentor.jpg|killed]] [[:Image:Dirge DeathSwarm.jpg|off]] [[:Image:Dirge DeathTimelines.jpg|in]] [[:Image:Dirge DeathUnicron.jpg|many]] [[:Image:Dirge DeathArmada.jpg|continuities]]
* [[Quake (G1)|Quake]] — the unlucky guy who gets killed over and over in the same continuity, but doesn't seem to mind.
* [[Waspinator]] — the unlucky guy from ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' who gets sliced, diced, and fricasseed every other episode only to be fully functional in time to get [[Slag (slang)|slagged]] ''again''. But he never actually dies.
* [[Cy-Kill (disambiguation)|Cy-Kill]], a Go-Bots character transferred to many Transformers comics just to be killed off violently. For no other reason than the lolz of ending his toyline, his universe, and finally his life... repeatedly.
* [[Sentinel Prime (G1)]] — the unlucky [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] [[:Image:Sentinel prime lou.jpg|who]] [[:Image:Sentinel prime dw.jpg|must]] [[Megatron Origin issue 4|die]].
* [[Starscream (Animated)]] — the unlucky guy that constantly gets killed, decapitated, or maimed by others, only to be brought back to life, thanks to a fragment of the [[AllSpark]] embedded in his forehead.

==See also==
* [[Transformer funerary practices]]
* [[To sell toys]]

[[Category:Biology]]
[[Category:Transformer anatomy]]

Skyquake (Prime)

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:''Skyquake is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)| Prime]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:SkyquakePrime.jpg|thumb|300px|Ain't he unglamorous?]]
'''Skyquake'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s loyalties are unlikely to be questioned anytime soon. A Decepticon guardian sent to protect Earth's energon stocks, he is completely loyal to Megatron. He will not only obey every order, he will follow them until Megatron says otherwise, regardless of the passage of time. He also possesses a rather short temper and is not beyond backhanding anyone who frustrates him.

==Fiction==
===''Prime'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Richard Green]] (English), [[Tilo Schmitz]] (German)
[[Image:Masters&Students-MyLittleFriend.jpg|thumb|250px|left|"Now is coward-killing time!"]]

Millennia ago, during the great war, [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] tasked Skyquake with assassinating [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] at the [[Battle of Technar]] but Skyquake failed to carry out his mission. He was later one of a number of Decepticon guardians sent to Earth by Megatron when the planet was seeded with Energon.

In the modern era, he was sought out by [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]], who needed a strong presence to inspire [[Vehicon (Prime)|his troops]] into believing his reign would be a successful one. However, Skyquake was less amiable to the idea, firmly announcing both his loyalty to Megatron and his lack of faith in Starscream's claims of Megatron's death. Before the pair came to blows, Optimus and [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] appeared on the scene. Skyquake reminded Prime of their encounter during the Battle of Technar, but Optimus still offered both Decepticons a chance at peace. Starscream showed some interest, as long as Optimus bowed to him, causing a frustrated Skyquake to belt him aside and attack Prime. Bumblebee threw himself into the fray but proved more of a distraction than anything else. He did manage to buy Optimus the time to realize Skyquake still lacked a [[Alternate mode|vehicle mode]].[[Image:Masters&Students-SkyquakeDeceased.jpg|thumb|right|250px|I'm okay.]] Using the canyon they were battling in to their advantage, the Autobots managed to corner Skyquake. Unfortunately, [[William Fowler|Agent Fowler]] appeared in a high-tech military jet, which Skyquake immediately [[Scanning|scanned]].

Skyquake quickly dominated the battle until Bumblebee threw himself on the jet and, as Skyquake tried to shake him off, ripped out his internals. Bumblebee jumped onto Fowler's plane as a heavily-injured Skyquake crashed into the ground. After Skyquake closed his optics for possibly one last time, Prime sadly noted how things might have been different, before burying the Decepticon. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

[[Image:Shadowzone-alone.jpg|left|thumb|300px|I am not ''burned'', just ''scorched.'' Wait...]]
Some time later, Starscream attempted to resurrect Skyquake using the chunk of [[Dark Energon]] that he ripped from Megatron's chest. It worked, and Skyquake rose as a [[Terrorcon (Prime)|zombie]], however a [[GroundBridge]] incident transported him to a strange alternate dimension along with the Autobots' human friends [[Miko Nakadai]], [[Jack Darby]] and [[Raf Esquivel]]. After discovering that he couldn't harm the Autobots, who were still in the real world, Skyquake began pursuing the three kids. They managed to find Starscream's arm, left behind during the battle, and used it to shoot Skyquake. This merely resulted in his arm coming off and chasing them. It followed them back through a rescue portal created by [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] and briefly assaulted Starscream before he shook it loose. It ran after him again but Starscream GroundBridged himself away. The rest of Skyquake continued to roam the [[shadowzone (dimension)|shadowzone]] and made a vain attempt to repair himself with Starscream's lost arm. {{Storylink|Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone}}

Megatron wasn't happy about Starscream using the Dark Energon shard that was previously merged with his Spark to bring Skyquake back, among other things. {{storylink|Rock Bottom}}
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==Toys==
===Prime===
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*'''Skyquake''' (Voyager, 2012)
**''Accessories:'' Sword

:Skyquake transforms into a modified [[Wikipedia: F-35 Lightning II|F-35 Lightning II]]. Unlike his on-screen appearance, he comes with a sword as an accessory rather than the gatling gun he was seen using in his debut.
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==Notes==
* It's a lucky thing Agent Fowler provided a jet with arm and leg kibble underneath for Skyquake to scan!
* While crash-landings have seldom been fatal to [[Transformer]]s in past series, ''Prime'' executive producer [[Jeff Kline]] has stated that "When we kill a character, we kill a character."<ref>[http://www.toonzone.net/news/articles/36193/transformers-prime-premiere-report-and-video-clip-plus-season-two-confirmation ToonZone.net summary of a Q&A session with the ''Prime'' creative team]</ref> [[Shadowzone (episode)|He's not exactly ''wrong'' but...]]

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Skyquake''' (スカイクエイク ''Sukaikueiku'')

==References==
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[[Category:Prime Decepticons]]
[[Category:Seekers]]
[[Category:Zombies]]

Seeker (body-type)

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[[Image:Seekers.png|right|300px|thumb|Well, they keep the toy-repainting fans off the streets, at least. (Generic Seekers from, clockwise: 1) MtMtE Part 3, 2) sticker sheet, 3-6) Five Faces of Darkness)]]

The term '''Seeker''' refers to [[Decepticon]] jet troopers who share [[Starscream (disambiguation)|Starscream]]'s [[body-type]] but with different colors or minor variations in wing and head shapes. This is most clearly and commonly known from ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'', but any franchise with a Starscream is almost [[To sell toys|inevitably]] going to feature a similar "family" of [[redeco]]ed jet-formers.

The word "Seeker" hovered a long time in a strange gray area between official and fan-coined terms. It seems to have originated in ''extremely'' obscure official or semi-official writing, but somehow became widely used among fans. ''(See [[#Origin of the term|below]].)'' In 2002, the term appeared in dialog from the first issue of ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]'' from [[Dreamwave Productions]], [[Canonizing|making it truly official]] after years of controversy. It has subsequently appeared in many other places such as on toy packaging, books, and in other stories.

==Generation 1 Seekers==
===Originals===
[[Image:MainSeekers.gif|300px|thumb|right|The original Seekers]]
In Generation 1, there were six Seekers originally given names and characterization: [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]. The first three, the season one Seekers, had animation designs done primarily by [[Shōhei Kohara]].
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===Coneheads===
[[Image:ConeheadsGenerations1.jpg|200px|thumb|right|The Coneheads.]]
The last three Generation 1 Seekers are usually designated as "[[Conehead]]" Seekers by fans for their distinctive transformation that leaves the jet nosecone pointing up. The animation models for the Conehead Seekers were designed by [[Floro Dery]].
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===Skyraiders===
[[Image:WingsofHonor-Skyraiders.jpg|right|thumb|250px|New guys, same ol' body-type.]]
The term "Skyraiders" (see [[#Alternate terms|alternate terms]]) was assigned to the prototypical Starscream-like air warriors that [[Skyquake (G1)|Skyquake]] developed at the very beginning of the war. The ranks of the Skyraiders did not seem to include any of the usual Seekers, but instead comprised other flying Decepticon characters. In addition to Skyquake himself, the Skyraiders were [[Leozack]], [[Hellbat (Victory)|Hellbat]], [[Hooligan (G2)|Hooligan]], and [[Guyhawk]].
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===And all the rest===
[[Image:MTMTEGenerics-OilField.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Aw, not "[[When Continents Collide]]" again...]]
In the Generation 1 cartoon there were large numbers of [[generic]], unnamed Seekers in addition to the named characters. They came in a wide variety of colors, from extra duplicates of Starscream or one of the other named guys, to original and distinct looks all their own. They seem to have formed the bulk of the Decepticon forces on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], as well as among [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s initial troops on [[Earth]]. They gradually became less common, perhaps as a result of casualties... or the cartoon's production team becoming more careful, or more-likely having more "actual" Decepticons to work with as the toy line expanded. (Extra [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] units and alternate color cassettes were also used along with these Seekers, early on, to fill out the comparatively thin Decepticon ranks.)

These unsung Seekers would be recognized years later in ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' toy form as the [[Air Warrior]]s (all using the common lavender/white color scheme). Soon afterward, the [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] ''Generation One'' comic series introduced an army of similarly-colored Seeker drones.

[[Image:AirWarriors MTMtE.jpg|right|200px|thumb|You talking to me? Or him? Or the other one?]]

Around the same time, another background Seeker was also given a new life through toys and Dreamwave comics: [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. This yellow-orange Seeker was a nameless background character in the first episode of the ''Transformers'' cartoon, until [[e-Hobby]] turned him into an [[exclusive]] toy (available with an [[Autobot]] also based on a [[Hauler|first-episode cameo]]). Now [[Hasbro]] [[Sunstorm (disambiguation)|can't get enough of him]]. Another generic Seeker was given attention: [[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]]. Like Sunstorm before him, he was based on one of the background Seekers from the original cartoon, in this case the episode "Divide and Conquer" (see below).
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Unnamed Seekers with their own distinct color schemes appear in the following episodes as noted below:

[[Image:Sunstorm Cartoon.jpg|250px|thumb|One for all, and all for one. Sunstorm and co. attack.]]
* "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]"
:In the "return to [[Great Dome|Iacon]]" scene on Cybertron, five to seven Seekers appear (wide shots depict a group of five, but the close-ups give us seven distinct color schemes.) The first three are (as far as colors are concerned) Skywarp, Starscream (with a deeper voice), and Thundercracker. In a following shot, we see a lavender Seeker with a flamethrower pack, a medium-blue Seeker with white trim, holding his arm gun like a rifle, a yellow/orange Seeker who would become Sunstorm... and lurking in the back, a very dark-blue Seeker with white trim barely visible, but there if you look.

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[[Image:MmteSeekers2.gif|250px|thumb|Lots of generic Seekers from this one.]]
* "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2]]" and "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3|Part 3]]"
:The mother lode of unnamed Seekers. Especially if you like variations of blue and lavender. Crowds of them appear at the start of the final battle. At least six different Seekers of various shades and decos of blue and at least four of various shades and decos of lavender (two with black tail fins in jet mode, two with white). Also, a blue variant (seen in the picture above) missing his wings and shoulder vents appears in "Part 3".

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[[Image:DivideandCon.gif|300px|thumb|Divide and Conquer Seekers]]
* "[[Divide and Conquer]]"
: Avert your eyes! One deep blue, one eye-burning bright green, and one garishly bright yellow. This trio is often referred to by fans as "the [[Rainmaker]]s" because they started an [[acid rain]] shower to irritate a group of [[Autobot]]s. The green jet in this grouping was made into the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' [[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]] character, whose name was initially supposed to be "Rainmaker", then "Acid Rain".

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[[Image:UltimateDoom.gif|300px|thumb|Ultimate Doom Seekers]]
* "[[The Ultimate Doom, Part 3]]"
: Two blue variants and one really nice looking pine-green Seeker appear as part of Shockwave's forces trying to prevent the rescue of [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].

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* "[[Five Faces of Darkness]]"
: One all-gray Seeker, one with [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]]'s coloration, and one with [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]'s. There's also an interesting Conehead variant. (All of which appear in the main image above.)

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[[Image:NotDirge.gif|200px|thumb|Dark Awakening Seeker]]
* "[[The Transformers: The Movie]]" & "[[Dark Awakening]]"
: One season 1-style [[:Image:DirgeseekerTFMovie.jpg|Seeker]] with Dirge's colors appears in jet mode in the attack on Autobot City in the movie, and next to the actual Dirge in the episode.

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* Puffy stickers
: A sheet of Transformer puffy stickers featured a rare generic with a Starscream-based color scheme. He is pictured above as well.

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* [[Transformers: Punch-Out Book]]
: In addition to Starscream, Skywarp and numerous identical copies of both of them, this construct-it-yourself battle scene features two distinct color schemes. Each features a solid grey body with solid color wings and tail wings: one red, one yellow.

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* [[Project Brain Drain]]
: While Ramjet, Thrust and Dirge are named and Skywarp is identifiable, there are numerous unnamed Seekers including a second individual with Thrust-style wings.

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[[Image:Returntocybertron-seeker.jpg|200px|thumb|Return to Cybertron Seeker.]]
* "[[Return to Cybertron]]"
: This relatively obscure [[Sticker Adventures]] tale gives us a brief glimpse of a Seeker with a Thundercracker/Skywarp mix; blue body, purple tailfins and wing stripes. You can't tell much more about him, given that he is A: partially obscured and B: exploding.

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[[Image:PretenderClassicsBoxArt.jpg|150px|thumb|"Classic Pretender" Seekers.]]
* [[Classic Pretender]] [[Package art|box art]]
: The box art (also used for adverts in the Marvel UK comic) for this line of toys shows Starscream attacking his Autobot counterparts alongside three others sharing his body-type. All have a silver front half in jet mode, while one has green rear fins, one has red and one is in shadow.
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* [[Transformers Comic-Magazin]] [[Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 18|Issue 18]]
: The German comic, well known for its often wacky coloring, contained a Seeker with a color scheme [[Jhiaxus|suspiciously familiar]].

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===IDW comics continuity===

Seekers are elite officers in the Decepticon army, and are expected to fulfill a leadership role on the battlefield in commanding other Decepticon troops. Seekers are expected to show absolute loyalty to the Decepticon cause. {{storylink|Seasons in Flight}} {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 12|All Hail Megatron #12}}

The seekers all take on the same body type out of respect to their commander, Starscream, and hold a position of prestige within the Decepticon ranks {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 6|All Hail Megatron #6}}

[[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] and [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] are Seekers, although they may be using a different definition of the term. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 14|All Hail Megatron #14}}

{{note|Confusingly, the human organisation [[Skywatch]] referred to [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] as "Seekers".}}

==UK Generation 2 comic==
[[Image:G2UKWarWithoutEndJetGuy.jpg|thumb|]]
An unnamed seeker with a light blue body with white face, light red helmet and thighs, and yellow cockpit cover was hanging around when Megatron boarded the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]. {{storylink|War Without End (issue)|War Without End}}

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==Unicron Trilogy Seekers==
According to one minor source in ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'', when any Transformer converts to a jet, he is called a "seeker"<ref>''[[Transformers Armada: The Awakening]]'' DK Readers book.</ref>. But the closest specific characters to the Generation 1 Seekers are this universe's own [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]]/[[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]]/[[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]] trio. All three even used the same toy mold in their first release, although Skywarp was heavily [[Retool|retooled]] from the others (including getting an entirely new-mold [[Mini-Con]] partner). While new Decepticon-allied jet characters named [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]] and [[Ramjet (Armada)|Ramjet]] were released in ''Armada'', they each had their own unique molds. However, whereas Ramjet was simply the Mini-Con partner of [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]], Thrust was a [[bulk]] who even had a VTOL engine in jet mode, a conehead and vertically-oriented wings in robot mode. Although Thrust's original toy was green, redecos looked a bit more like his G1 incarnation. It was also redecoed into ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 franchise)|Universe]]'' [[Sunstorm (Universe)|Sunstorm]].

Though only Starscream appeared in the follow-up franchise, ''[[Transformers: Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'', several Seekers appeared in the final portion of the Unicron Trilogy, ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]''. Starscream was back in a form heavily inspired by ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]'' Starscream design (itself based on the "tetrajet" (see below)), while Thundercracker received a completely different body. A Skywarp was also released as a redeco of Thundercracker.

Further, the ''[[Legends Class|Legends of Cybertron]]'' Starscream toy, a tiny, simplified version of his main toy, was redecoed three more times: [[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]] as a giveaway at [[ComicCon 2005]], [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] as a giveaway at [[BotCon 2005]], and [[Sunstorm (LOC)|Sunstorm]] as part of the last wave of the LOC line at retail.

==Live-action movie franchise Seekers==

In the letters page for [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|Titan's tie-in comic]], the movie versions of [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]], and [[Ramjet (Movie)|Ramjet]] were first referred to as Seekers—by Starscream himself, no less. [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] was noticeably absent from Starscream's list, despite also being a jet and Thundercracker also being the name/body for a line of drones. This left it unclear what a Seeker ''is''. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|#9's Star Screams}}

The term was used twice in IDW movie comics, meaning different things—[[Seeker (Movie)|Starscream's crack unit]], and [[Seeker (ROTF)|ancient spacefaring Transformers]].

In the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|movie sequel]], Jetfire describes himself as a Seeker. One of the early categories of Transformers, they were created to seek out stars which could be harvested for energon. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

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==Shattered Glass==
The term is taken to refer to [[Seeker (SG)|a group of evil Autobots with car alternate modes who share the same color of black]].

==Animated continuity==
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==Aligned continuity==
The Seekers were a pre-existing group long before the formation of the Decepticons. There is some indication that the Seekers are an elite group of the best of the best fliers, although what (if anything) distinguishes a Seeker from any other flying Transformer is open to question. They tend to mostly, though not always, share a common design.

In an effort to placate the eternally fueding cities of [[Vos]] and [[Tarn]] each was given something of value. Vos thus became the home of the [[Air Commander|Cybertronian Air Command]] home base of the Seekers. [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] was one of their leaders before the war, and [[Autobot High Council|High Councilor]] [[Contrail]] seems to have been another. The Seekers were employed in ancient times to guard the secret of [[Dark Energon]] hidden aboard [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon Station]]. They kept this charge even when Starscream allied with the Decepticons, though for the most part they remained largely independent in the civil war.

[[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]], apparently upset at being pulled away from the [[Crystal City]], manuvered Vos and Tarn into destroying each other, wiping out most of the Air Commanders that formed the basis of Starscream's power and bolstering his own position as Second-in-command.

In the aftermath of this betrayal, many of the surviving Seekers from Vos joined the Autobots, becoming the [[Aerialbot (WFC)|Aerialbot]]s. [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]] was one notable Seeker who defected from the Decepticons to the Autobots, helping them exploit their own flight skills further.

As part of his power play with Starscream, Megatron sent gladiators to kill many of the Air Command's scientists to finally take control of Trypticon away from the Seekers. ''{{storylink|Transformers: Exodus}}''

'''Known Seekers:'''
*Starscream
*[[Skywarp (WFC)|Skywarp]]
*[[Thundercracker (WFC)|Thundercracker]]
*Jetfire
*Contrail
*[[Bitstream]]
*[[Hotlink]]
*[[Nacelle]]
*[[Slipstream (WFC)|Slipstream]]
*[[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]]
*[[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]]

==Origin of the term==
Although "Seeker" is the most well-known name for these Decepticons, the reason for its wide use is a bit of a mystery.

[[Image:Seekers ad text.jpg|left|197px|thumb|No, you fool, we're following orders: We were told to scour the countryside, so we're scouring it.]]

There are only two known official uses of the term in 20th century, both of them in department-store advertisements from the [[1984]] holiday season. The J.C. Penney catalog (sometimes called a "wishbook") featured a page dedicated to ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' that included this statement in its description of Starscream: "Airplane with sensational F-15 styling scours the countryside searching for Autobots. When they're found, the Seekers set out to destroy them." It also said [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] "sends out messages to the Seekers and other Decepticons".<ref>J.C. Penney 1984 wishbook [[:Image:Seekers ad.jpg|(full-page scan)]]</ref> Additionally, the now-defunct discount retail chain Zayre put out an ad in November 1984 listing Starscream and either Thundercracker or Skywarp as "Decepticon Seeker".<ref name="savead">Zayre 1984 ad [http://pleasesavemerobots.com/vstp/vstptf84.html (scan at The Vintage Space Toaster Palace)]</ref>

Some fans interpret those two seemingly-unrelated instances to mean that the capitalized term "Seeker" was handed down by [[Hasbro]] in promotional materials, and those retailers happened to run with it. It's impossible to know one way or the other with any certainty, but the most curious aspect is that the online ''Transformers'' fan community was already using the word in the early '90s, when the [[fandom]] was just getting on its feet. Were those obscure toy ads strong enough in the fandom's collective memory to determine common parlance almost ten years after the fact? Or were there more official usages that have since disappeared?

Even the '90s-era fandom didn't know where the term had come from, as evidenced by confused conversations from that time on [[alt.toys.transformers]].<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/e885ffdf4355e933/13eeeeae7e2483b7?tvc=17 alt.toys.transformers thread from 1996 about the origin of "Seeker"]</ref> While no one cited those toy ads, there were plenty of ''wrong'' answers, which may explain the term's staying power. The strongest of those erroneous explanations was that it had come from the phrase "[[Ferak|hunter-seeker skyship]]" used in [[The Smelting Pool!|issue 17]] of the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel US comic]]. However, the Decepticons it is applied to are shown only in their flight modes, which look nothing like the jets in question. In fact, the Coneheads make their first appearance in the same issue, and their Cybertronian flight modes appear very similar to their [[Earth]] jet forms (if not completely identical), and completely ''different'' from the craft which are referred to as hunter-seekers. The only real connection between the hunter-seekers we were shown and the "Seekers" is that there's more than one of them and they fly.

During this phase of questionable canonicity, fans flirted with other terms such as "Skyraider" ''(see [[#Alternate terms|below]])'', but in 2002 [[Simon Furman]] used "Seeker" in a Dreamwave comic script, which sealed the deal of officiality and set the tone not just for the fandom, but for the ''Transformers'' fiction that came afterwards as well.

==Alternate terms==
[[Image:86Planes.jpg|thumb|left|200px|I don't know what to call you, [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], but I know "plane" isn't it.]]

The most obvious alternate name for these Transformers—and the one generally used by toy [[Pack-in material|pack-in]] [[catalog]]s—is '''[[Decepticon Planes]]'''. While usually clear enough from context, this term has the weakness that there are many Decepticon planes who do not share this body-type. Also, the term is rarely, if ever, used outside of toy-specific contexts. The first [[United Kingdom|UK]] toy pack-in catalog referred to the group as '''strike planes'''.<ref>First UK toy catalog [http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/img/toysheets/g1/uksheet01/1.jpg (scan at Transformers @ The Moon)]</ref> In Japan, they were called '''Jetrons'''.

Within the fiction, the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon]] episode "[[Atlantis, Arise!]]" features [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] calling Thundercracker a '''Deceptijet'''. And the 1985 audio book "[[Sun Raid]]" has Megatron ordering the '''Deceptiplanes''' (Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker) to break off an attack. The audio book "[[Jaws of Terror]]" referred to them as "Decepticon superjets."

[[Image:Tetrajet seekers.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Did you ever wonder why we had to run for shelter...]]

For a long time, it has been common among fans to refer to the Seekers' cartoon Cybertronian forms (from the episode "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]" among others) as '''tetrajets''' because their shape resembles a [[wikipedia:tetrahedron|tetrahedron]], a pyramid with a triangular base.

If there was ever an official term that could've given "Seeker" a run for its money, it was the one used on the [[Europe]]an ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]'' packaging of Starscream and Ramjet: '''Skyraiders'''.<ref>Starscream and Ramjet's European ''Generation 2'' packaging [http://www.cobraislandtoys.com/tf/1992/starscreamg2boxfront.jpg (photo at Cobra Island Toys)]</ref> That term also appeared in those characters' profiles in the [[Transformers: Generation 2 (Fleetway)|UK ''Generation 2'' comic]]. When the modern fandom dug this information up, "Seeker" was still considered a fan-generated term, so there was a push to supplant it with "Skyraider". But Furman's use of "Seeker" in the then-current Dreamwave comics, coupled with the rediscovery of the J.C. Penney wishbook, put a damper on that movement. Some years later, the term "Skyraider" was officially resurrected to describe the jet warriors in the [[BotCon 2009]] set "[[Wings of Honor]]" (based on the [[Starscream_(Armada)#Energon|''Energon'' Starscream mold]]). [[Skyquake (G1)|Skyquake]] was indicated as the body-type's developer.

==Games==
===''Transformers: Mystery of Convoy''===
{{storylink|Transformers: Mystery of Convoy}}
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===Transformers: Cybertron Adventures===
{{charstubfiction}}
{{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}

==Toys==
{{note|Because of the bodytype-sharing nature of the Seekers, this section includes only molds that have been decorated as two or more Seeker characters, omitting a large number of molds unique to a single character.}}
===Generation 1===
[[Image:Redeco.jpg|right|250px|thumb|The original Seekers.]]
* '''[[Decepticon Planes]]''' (1984)
{{collist|3|
:* [[Skywarp (G1)/toys|Skywarp]]
:* [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]]
:* [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys|Thundercracker]]
}}

* '''Decepticon Planes''' (1985)
{{collist|3|
:* [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]]
:* [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]
:* [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]
}}

:The original Seeker mold was the [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes#F-15 Eagle|F-15]] ''[[Diaclone]]'' design, noted for its detailed jet mode, extremely limited robot-mode articulation, and the need to remove/add many parts during transformation.

:The mold was initially decorated as Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker. In 1985, Ramjet, Dirge and Thrust were created out of this mold, each with unique new wing toolings and color schemes. Redecorated [[retool]]s of the mold also appeared in ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' as Starscream and Ramjet, featuring new accessory [[soundbox]]es.

:This mold subsequently has been extensively reissued and redecorated; see [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream (G1) toys]] for a ridiculously long list of examples. The reissues have included the original six characters as well as the retro-Generation-1 character [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]].

* '''[[Action Master]]s''' (1990)

:This non-transforming action figure mold was sold as Starscream, and later redecorated as Thundercracker for the European market.

===''Machine Wars''===
[[Image:MWSkywarp.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Machine Wars'' Skywarp]]
* '''Basic''' (1997)

:A small [[Flipchanger|flipchanger]] mold, originally intended for ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'', was issued as Thundercracker and Skywarp.

===''Armada''===
* '''Max-Con''' (2002)

:An all-new mold sold at the $20 price point was originally issued as ''Armada'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], redecorated as ''Armada'' [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]], and retooled as ''Armada'' [[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]]. The retooled version was later issued as the new character [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] in the first ''Universe'' toy line.

===''Smallest Transforming Transformers''===
[[Image:STFStarscream toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Smallest Transforming Transformers'' Starscream]]
:The ''Smallest'' line, issued in Japan in 2003, featured a reduced-scale version of the original Generation 1 Seeker mold.

:It was issued as Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker, and retooled as Thrust.

===''Robot Masters''===
:A new Seeker mold was created for Japan's ''[[Robot Masters (franchise)|Robot Masters]]'' subline. It is based on the original toy, but redesigned at a smaller size and with enhanced articulation.

:It was issued as Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker.

===''Titanium''===
[[Image:TitaniumHeroesWWThundercracker.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Titanium'' Thundercracker]]
:A new Seeker mold created for the ''[[Titanium Series]]'' subline features a Cybertronian-based alternate mode, derived from the characters' appearance in ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]'' (itself loosely based on the original pyramid jets seen in "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]".) This mold has been issued as Thundercracker, Starscream, Skywarp (a convention exclusive), Sunstorm, and Thrust (a Target Exclusive).

===''Cybertron''===
* '''Legends of Cybertron''' (2006)

:A tiny version of the Voyager mold, issued as ''Armada'' Starscream, and redecorated as ''Universe'' [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]], ''Armada'' [[Skywarp (Armada)#LOC|Skywarp]] and [[Sunstorm (LOC)|Sunstorm]], and Generation 1 [[Ramjet (G1)#Universe_.282008.29|Ramjet]] and [[Thrust (G1)#Universe_.282008.29|Thrust]].
:A small version of the Deluxe mold was available as [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]] and was redecoed as [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)|Starscream]] for the ''[[Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' toyline.

* '''Deluxe''' (2006)

: Though Thundercracker wasn't the same mold as Starscream in this series, his deluxe toy was redecoed as Skywarp.

* '''Voyager''' (2006)

:This mold, based on G1 Starscream's ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]'' appearance, was issued as ''Armada'' Starscream, and later redecorated as Generation 1 Dirge.

===''Classics''===
[[Image:Henkei Thundercracker toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Thundercracker]]
* '''Deluxe''' (2006)

:An all-new mold at the $10 price point, the ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' Seeker design retains the F-15 alternate mode, but with a new transformation scheme and modern articulation.

:Like the original, this mold has been redecorated and retooled numerous times. In addition to the original six Seekers, it has also been issued as the character [[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]]. The various uses of this mold have occurred in the ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei!]]'', ''[[Universe (2008)|Universe]]'', ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' and ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' toylines in addition to its original release in ''Classics''. Versions of this mold have been mass retail releases, store exclusives, specialty exclusives, convention exclusives and fan club exclusives.

{{collist|3|
:* [[Ramjet (G1)#Classics|''Classics'' Ramjet]]
:* [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Classics (2006)|''Classics'' Skywarp]]
:* [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Classics (2006)|''Classics'' Starscream]]
:* [[Dirge (G1)#Timelines|''Timelines'' Dirge]]
:* [[Thrust (G1)#Thrust|''Timelines'' Thrust]]
:* [[Ramjet (G1)#Timelines|''Timelines'' Ramjet (G2)]]
:* [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys|''Timelines'' Thundercracker]]
:* [[Thundercracker (SG)|''Timelines'' Thundercracker (SG)]]
:* [[Dirge (G1)#Gentei! Gentei!|''Gentei! Gentei!'' Dirge]]
:* [[Ramjet (G1)#Henkei! Henkei|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Ramjet]]
:* [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Skywarp]]
:* [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Starscream]]
:* ''Henkei! Henkei!'' Ghost Starscream
:* [[Thrust (G1)#Gentei! Gentei!|''Gentei! Gentei!'' Thrust]]
:* [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Thundercracker]]
:* [[Acid Storm (G1)|''Universe'' Acid Storm]]
:* [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)|''Universe'' Starscream]]
:* [[Dirge (G1)#Generations|''Generations'' Dirge]]
:* [[Thrust (G1)#Generations|''Generations'' Thrust]]
:* [[Thundercracker (G1)#Generations|''Generations'' Thundercracker]]
}}

===''Masterpiece''===
:A larger-scaled, highly complex mold. Issued as Starscream in 2005, with later retools as Skywarp, Thundercracker and most recently Ghost Starscream, with transparent parts.

===Movie (2007)===
* '''Legends'''

[[Image:Movie Legends Starscream.jpg|right|250px|thumb|]]
:This Legends-class mold is a highly simplified, low-cost version of Starscream in his F-22 Raptor body. As such, he has a greatly compromised transformation sequence due to the smaller parts count, with limited articulation and detailing. In addition to numerous redecoes sold as Starscream, it was also used to make ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]].
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* '''Voyager'''

[[Image:Movie Voyager Starscream toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|''2007 Live Action Movie'' Starscream]]
:The mold used for the [[Transformers (2007)|''Transformers'' live-action movie]] [[Size class|Voyager]] class [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] figure was retooled and redecoed into [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] (as well as a G1 recolor of Starscream.) For the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' line of toys, the original mold and the retool were recolored again as [[Ramjet (Movie)|Ramjet]] and [[Skywarp (ROTF)|Skywarp]] respectively.

* '''Fast Action Battler'''

:The [[Fast Action Battlers]] version of Starscream was recolored into Ramjet in 2007.
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===''Animated''===
* '''Legends'''

: The tiny [[Legends Class]] Starscream mold was recolored into clear versions of Thundercracker, Skywarp, Sunstorm, Ramjet and [[Starscream Clone Black Version|a black clone]].

* '''Voyager'''

[[Image:Animated Skywarp Voyager.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Animated'' Skywarp]]
:The Voyager class [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] from [[Transformers Animated (toyline)|Animated]] was recolored into two of his [[Starscream clone (Animated)|clones]], [[Skywarp (Animated)|Skywarp]] and [[Sunstorm (Animated)|Sunstorm]], with a third one, [[Thundercracker (Animated)|Thundercracker]], going unreleased.

* '''Activators'''

: Starscream's [[Activators]] mold, a smaller, auto-transforming design based on the larger toy, was recolored into Thundercracker, [[Dirge (Animated)|Dirge]], Skywarp and [[Ramjet (Animated)|Ramjet]], also based on the clones from the cartoon.

===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
[[Image:ROTF Voyager Starscream.jpg|right|200px|thumb|]]
* '''Voyager'''

:''Revenge of the Fallen'' Voyager class Starscream is far more accurate to the movie model in both modes than the previous movie's Voyager mold, with a more dramatic transformation scheme to boot. He was only redecoed as himself.

===''Transformers (2010)''===
[[Image:Chronicletoy ez thundercracker.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
* '''Legends'''

:[[Legends Class]] Starscream is a new sculpt based on his Generation 1 jet appearance with many fuselage details borrowed from the [[#Masterpiece|Masterpiece version]]. This sculpt was also used to make ''[[Chronicle]]'' [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Chronicle|Thundercracker]], Starscream, and [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Chronicle|Skywarp]].
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[[Image:ROTF-toy leader Starscream.jpg|right|300px|thumb|''Transformers 2010'' Starscream]]
* '''Leader'''

:Like the various figures released earlier, Leader-class Starscream transforms into an officially licensed Lockheed-Martin F-22 Raptor fighter jet. He possesses electronic lights and sounds. He was later redecoed into his Movie [[Masterpiece]] version.

===''Dark of the Moon''===
* '''Deluxe'''

:This all-new sculpt transforms into a surprisingly accurate F-22 Raptor while hiding the robot mode parts much better than previous molds. It was later redecoed into [[Thundercracker (Movie)#Dark of the Moon|Thundercracker]] and [[Skywarp (ROTF)#Dark of the Moon|Skywarp]].
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==Merchandise==
[[Image:HoC 3H Seeker Set.jpg|right|250px|thumb|[[Starscream (G1)|I]] am [[Thundercracker (G1)|he]] as [[Skywarp (G1)|you]] are he as you are me and [[Air Warrior|we]] are all together.]]
===''Super Collection Figure''===
:A small, PVC plastic figure based on the Seekers' animation model design. It was imported from Takara in the 2002 ''Heroes of Cybertron'' line.

:It was issued as Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Sunstorm, and as a six-pack of the three original seekers and three generic light purple [[Air Warrior|Air Warriors]]. It was retooled and redecorated as Ramjet, Thrust and Dirge.

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===''Titanium Series''===
[[Image:TitaniumRM Starscream.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Stop, in the name of love...]]

: A small, non-transforming die-cast metal figurine, based upon the Generation 1 cartoon appearance of the Seekers was available decoed as either Starscream or Thundercracker.
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===''MyClone''===
[[Image:MyCloneRamjet.jpg|right|100px|thumb|''Myclone'' Ramjet]]
:A super-adorable figurine mold of Starscream was issued for this line, and redecorated as the [[chase figure]] Thundercracker. A Coneheads mold was also available, issued as Ramjet and chase figure Dirge, and retooled as Thrust.
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===Palisades===
[[Image:PalisadesStarscream.jpg|thumb|]]
:Issued in 2005, this six-inch-tall polystone statue with articulated head and arms was sculpted by [[3L Creation Group]] from a design by [[George Tremarco]]. It was later redecoed as Skywarp, Sunstorm, Thundercracker, and the Ghost of Starscream.
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===''Robot Heroes''===
[[Image:Robot Hero Skywarp.jpg|right|120px|thumb|Robot Heroes Skywarp]]
:Another super-adorable figurine of Starscream, this time launching himself into the air. Redecorated as Skywarp and Thundercracker. A Thrust mold from the same line has yet to be redecorated.
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===''3D Battle-Card Game''===
[[Image:3DBattleCard_Thundercracker.jpg|thumb|right|250px|]]
:This release is a 38-point "Uncommon" piece from the [[3D Battle-Card Game]] composed of punch-out parts from two different cards that can be reconfigured to make a robot or a fighter jet. The parts layout was used to produce Movie versions of [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] (as well as non-Seeker characters [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] and [[Jetfire (Movie)|Jetfire]]) in the initial release and Generation 1 [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] in the "Energon Wars" expansion set.
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==Notes==
[[Image:BC05InfiltrationCoverSeekette.jpg|thumb|250px|VOGUE!]]
*''Generation 2'' concept art revealed in the ''[[Transformers Vault]]'' book shows an unreleased desert camo variant on the Ramjet toy (previously seen in toy mock-up form) that would have been named [[Sandstorm (G2)|Sandstorm]].

*A mostly black and grey mock-up of ''Generation 2'' Starscream was also seen from the same source as the Sandstorm mock-up. This toy has "[[:Image:G2BlackDeathStarscream.jpg|Black Death]]" written on the nosecone and may perhaps have also been intended as a new character of that name.

*Another mock-up deco variant of the Starscream toy in [[:Image:G2SSJungleprotojet.jpg|jungle colors]] is also known to exist. As with "Black Death" Starscream and previously mentioned desert camo Ramjet, this may have been intended to be a new character.

*Lastly, ''another'' mock-up deco variant of the Ramjet toy in [[:Image:WhizBangNavyRamjetRedeco.jpg|cloud camo]] is also known to exist. As with all the above mock-up decoes, this may have been intended to be a new character.

* The Transformers [[fandom]] has long mused upon the possibility of female Seekers (and produced countless [[Wikipedia:Mary Sue|self-insertion characters]] that are variants on the theme). A piece of [[Hasbro]] concept art of what appeared to be a female Seeker design appeared on the [[BotCon 2005]]-exclusive cover of [[Infiltration issue 0|Infiltration #0]], but the idea didn't fully see fruition until ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[Slipstream (Animated)|Slipstream]], the first '''[[canon]]ical''' female character to share a body template with a Starscream. This development is either great or horrible, depending on your perspective.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Jetron''' (ジェットロン ''Jettoron'')

==References==
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[[Category:Decepticon subgroups]]
[[Category:Fandom]]
[[Category:Generation 1 subgroups]]
[[Category:Seekers| Seeker (body-type)]]
[[Category:Mass-produced Transformers]]
[[Category:Wings Universe subgroups]]

Crowbar

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:''Crowbar is a [[Decepticon]] [[Dread (subgroup)| Dread]] from the [[Dark of the Moon (franchise)|Dark of the Moon]] portion of the [[live-action film series]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:DOTM_Crowbar_concept.jpg|thumb|350px|"That must have been like, at least fifty pounds of meat."]]

'''Crowbar''' is well known as a master of breaking and entering. It doesn't matter if we're talking computer systems, human safes, or enemy compounds he's got the tools and skills needed to get you in. His weapons of choice are "nanotech sentries".

He also gives this wiki a ''lot'' of openings to make references to ''The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra''.

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==Fiction==
===''Dark of the Moon'' adaptations===

When [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] was being retrieved from [[Earth]]'s [[Moon (moon)|Moon]], [[Hatchet]], Crowbar, and [[Crankcase (DOTM)|Crankcase]] surfaced quietly and secretly hitched a ride on the Autobots' shuttle back to Earth. {{storylink|Dark of the Moon (novel)}} {{storylink|Dark of the Moon issue 1|Dark of the Moon #1}}

===''Dark of the Moon'' film===
[[Image:Dotm Crowbar standoff.jpg|left|thumb|250px|"If I could only reach you, we'd share... pain."]]
After [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] was retrieved from [[Earth]]'s [[Moon (moon)|Moon]] and reactivated, [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] put into motion the plan that had been waiting in the wings for hundreds of years. With the [[human]] [[Sam Witwicky]] believing that the Decepticons wished to capture Sentinel and force him to use the control pillar to activate his space bridge, Crowbar, [[Crankcase (DOTM)|Crankcase]] and [[Hatchet]] were sent to pursue the Autobots. Crowbar closed in on [[Seymour Simmons|Seymour Simmons']] car, transformed, reached in and tossed the former [[Sector Seven]] agent behind him as he bounded ahead to knock over a highway sign for the other two to use as a ramp.

[[Image:DOTM-IronhidevsCrowbar.jpg|thumb|250px|"This neck restrainer is most uncomfortable."]]

However, despite their best collective efforts to slow down the Autobots, Hatchet was quickly destroyed, and the remaining Dreads were soon confronted by the Autobot heavy-hitter, [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]], who stopped them in their tracks with a head-on collision. Faced with Ironhide's heavy weapons and [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]], the Dreads seemingly capitulated by dropping their ranged weapons, but as soon as the Autobots followed suit, deployed spears to attack their enemies. Though Crowbar's spear found its mark, embedding itself into Ironhide's shoulder, Sideswipe tossed the Autobot veteran his discarded blaster, which he used to shoot the Decepticon in the face as Crowbar leaped to attack. {{storylink|Dark of the Moon (film)}}
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==Games==
===Dark of the Moon: Autobots/Decepticons===
[[Image:DOTMDS Crowbar.jpg|thumb|right|200px|"Aliens? Us? Is that one of your Earth ''jokes''?"]]
:''Voice actor'': [[Steve Blum]]

While trying to break into a [[NEST]] facility, [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] ordered Crowbar to create distractions around the city to keep the Autobots occupied. Crowbar told him he should mellow, and then went and fought at bunch of Autobots. Later on, when Crowbar was patrolling an Autobot base on a Pacific island, Starscream told him [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] was lurking somewhere around. Crowbar destroyed a bunch of buildings in an attempt to draw Optimus out, but the Autobot leader was a no-show.

Later Crowbar came to help [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] when the latter was trying to escape a NEST base. Crowbar was to cause a distraction, which to his delight meant he got to beat up that "shiny little twerp" [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]. Following their escape, he retreated to the Decepticons' base in [[Siberia]]. He didn't think the Autobots would find them there, but told one of his fellow soldiers not to bug Megatron if they did. When the Autobots inevitably did turn up, Crowbar destroyed a whole bunch of them, but apparently not enough, as they eventually gained access to the base. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Autobots/Decepticons|Dark of the Moon: Autobots/Decepticons}}
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==Toys==
===Dark of the Moon===
====Cyberverse====
[[Image:DOTM CyberverseLegion Crowbar.jpg|thumb|300px|"I'm sorry, my wife sometimes forgets that she is ''not'' a space alien."]]
* '''Crowbar''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2011)
**''Series:'' '''1'''
**''ID number'': ''' 009'''
**''Japanese ID number'': '''CV27'''

: Part of the second wave of [[Cyberverse]] Legion single-pack toys, Crowbar is a surprisingly tall [[Legends Class|Legends-scale]] figure that transforms into a unmarked version of a Carbon Motors E7 Police car. He has molded detail around his head that resembles dreadlocks. His left hand is designed to interact with Cyberverse weapons and playsets. He has an ''extremely'' articulated lower body, capable of pivoting his feet, bending his knees inward and out, rotating and moving his thighs via his [[Swivel joint|swivel]]s and [[ball joint]]ed hips, and rotating his waist. He's also one of the tallest Legion-Class figures, not even counting his long car-half arms.

: Due to the pointed armor plating on his knees getting in the way, his arms/legs can be somewhat hard to transform. Also, due to the pegs on his legs being quite long, the connection that pegging the legs into the sides of his arms for vehicle mode is ''very'' tight, meaning that opening the vehicle rear/legs for robot mode can be quite difficult, and can occasionally result in the thighs popping off the swivels they're on.

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[[Image:DOTM-toy CrowbarUGS.jpg|thumb|300px|"I'm an ''alien'', Paul. Remember?"]]
*'''Ultimate Gift Set''' (Cyberverse multi-pack, 2011)

: Part of the 2011 [[Christmas]]time [[Walmart]]-[[exclusive]] "[[Ultimate Gift Set]]" 5-pack, this version of Crowbar is a [[redeco]] of his individual toy... and he's excessively outnumbered. He comes with exclusive redecos of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Ultimategift|Optimus Prime]], [[Powerglide (DOTM)#Ultimategift|Powerglide]], [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Ultimategift|Bumblebee]], and [[Sideswipe (Movie)#Ultimategift|Sideswipe]].

:Yeah. One Decepticon, four Autobots, including ''Optimus freakin' Prime''.

: The [[stock photo]] of Crowbar's robot mode on the boxback is mistransformed, with the chestpiece flipped around to the back. Ironically, this severely ''improves'' the range of motion in his arms. (Online stock photos, however, show him properly transformed.)

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==Notes==
* In early production, the [[Dread (DOTM)|Dreads]] were announced to be a pair of modified Chevrolet Suburbans. Photos of only two prop vehicles were even taken on-set.<ref name="suburb">[http://screenrant.com/transformers-3-characters-dreads-rob-95462/ "Transformers 3 Characters: Meet The Dreads"]</ref> In the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|final movie]], all three Dreads use identical Chevrolet Suburbans as their [[alternate mode]]s, with individual robot modes between the three of them. For the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|toy line]], Hasbro decided to give them individual alternate modes as well, which is why only [[Crankcase (DOTM)|Crankcase]] turns into a Suburban.
*The Transformers.com website's Vector Sigma database entry for Crowbar strangely illustrates his nanotech sentries using an image of [[Roadbuster (DOTM)|Roadbuster]]'s Assault Saw weapon.
* An early working name for him was "Hooligan".<ref name="nizzi">[http://www.joshnizzi.com/TF3.htm Josh Nizzi DOTM concepts.]</ref>
* During the battle between the Dreads and the Autobots, when Crowbar crashes into a sign, [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher's]] battle cry from the first film is used as Crowbar's.

==References==
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[[Category: Cyberverse]]
[[Category: Dark of the Moon Decepticons]]

Revenge of the Fallen issue 3

2012-02-06T03:59:00Z

205.250.176.157: /* Featured characters */

{{Comicstory|
|seriesissue=''[[Revenge of the Fallen (comic series)|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]]'' #3
|prev=Revenge of the Fallen issue 2
|next=Revenge of the Fallen issue 4
|image=RotF Adaptation issue 3 Cover A.jpg
|caption="Who rules the skies, Starscream?" "Y-you do, Optimus."
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[June 3]], [[2009]] (scheduled)
|coverdate=
|written by=[[Simon Furman]]
|art by=[[Alex Milne]]
|colors by=[[Josh Perez]]
|letters by=[[Chris Mowry]]
|screenplay by=[[Roberto Orci]], [[Alex Kurtzman]], and [[Ehren Kruger]]
|edits by=[[Denton J. Tipton]]
|continuity=[[Movie continuity]]
}}

'''An adaptation of the summer blockbuster of 2009.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Image:Jetfire ROTFMovieAdapt3.jpg|left|thumb|150px|ME ALAN MOORE.]]
Under threat of physical harm, [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] reveals to [[Mikaela Banes]] that he recognizes the [[Cyberglyphics]] but does not know how to read them. He went on to say that [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seekers]] would be able to read them, then leads them to the [[Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum|Smithsonian Institute]] where one can be found. While [[Sam Witwicky]], Mikaela, [[Leo Spitz]], and [[Seymour Simmons]] search the museum, the [[AllSpark]] fragment Sam was carrying jumps from his hand and attaches itself to a SR-71 Blackbird on display. This rouses the Seeker from his slumber. He reveals his name to be [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] but does not remember what planet he is on or what he is doing there. He states his dislike of Decepticons and says that he had defected to the Autobots some time ago.

Jetfire displays no interest in dealing with the humans until Sam mentions [[The Fallen]]. This seems to jog his memory and he becomes suddenly serious and insists that Sam tell him what he knows. Sam then reveals the Cyberglyphics that have been racing through his head. When he hears enough, Jetfire transports himself, the four humans, [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]], and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] to [[Egypt]] via trans-dimensional [[space bridge]]. The humans don't know why Jetfire needed to go to Egypt so they ask him to explain. Jetfire then holo-projects some of the relevant historical footage to explain.

:''The AllSpark created the [[Dynasty of Primes]] for the protection of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. The [[Matrix of Leadership]] was also created as a key to the [[Star harvester|harvester]]s and entrusted to the Primes. The Primes were not to harvest the power of a sun from a [[solar system|star system]] with life. The Fallen defied that rule and destroyed all but one of his fellow Primes. [[Prima|The last of the twelve]] created a tomb from the chassis of his deactivated brothers. He sealed himself and the Matrix inside using the last of his own life essence. The tomb is hidden somewhere in Egypt.

Jetfire also reveals that only a Prime can stand against The Fallen. While the wars on Cybertron destroyed the Prime Dynasty, one orphan was left with no knowledge of his history. [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]].''

In [[New Jersey (Earth)|New Jersey]], [[Theodore Galloway|Director Galloway]] informs [[William Lennox]] and [[Ray Epps]] that, by order of the [[Barack Obama|President]], the Autobots have to stand down and return to [[Diego Garcia]].

Back in [[Cairo]], Egypt, the humans ride in Bumblebee trying to figure out the clues to the location of the Prime crypt that were obtained when Jetfire translated the Cyberglyphics. Local authorities spot Sam and try to detain him. Bumblebee and the Twins lose the police, but not before [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] is able to pinpoint Sam's location from intercepted communications.

Sam decided he needs to get a message to Lennox and Epps, but knows that calling them directly would give himself away, so he comes up with a plan to deliver the message indirectly. He gives the message to William Lennox's wife [[Sarah Lennox|Sarah]] who then tells Ray Epps's wife [[Monique Epps|Monique]] who then calls her husband on an insecure line. While she makes the call appear to be about ordinary husband and wife chit-chat, Monique is able to get the true message through. Sam wants them to deliver Optimus Prime to Egypt.

The clues from the Cyberglyphs lead Sam and the others to an ancient tomb of human origin. This appears to be a dead-end until the Twins get into an argument that becomes physical. Mudflap shoves Skids into a wall which crumbles, revealing the tomb of the Primes. They find the remains of the Matrix of Leadership. After thousands of years, the Cybertronian artifact turns to dust, which Sam collects in his sock.

Lennox, Epps, Galloway and the Autobots arrive in C-17s. The pilot feigns engine trouble as an excuse to jettison the cargo over Galloway's objections. The Autobots and humans aboard parachute out of the plane. Sam and company are then attacked by [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] and [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] while at least 11 cometary Decepticons rain down into the action. Human communications are disrupted by an EMP burst from the Decepticons while Soundwave alters satellite imagery so that the [[United States military]] will not see anything out of the ordinary happening in Egypt.

While Simmons, Bumblebee, and the Twins draw the Decepticons' fire, Sam and Mikaela try to get to Optimus Prime in hopes that the Matrix of Leadership dust could still revive him. Starscream is in pursuit of Sam and Mikaela when The Fallen appears atop a pyramid (via Space Bridge).

==Featured characters==
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|c1=
*[[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] (6)
*[[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] (7)
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] (8)
*[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] (9)
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] (10)
*[[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]] (11)
*[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] (12)
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] (16)
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] (28)
|c2=
*[[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] (1)
*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] (17)
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] (21)
*[[Scavenger (ROTF)|Wheelbot]] (23)
*[[Long Haul (ROTF)|Long Haul]] (24)
*[[Overload (ROTF)|Overload]] (25)
*[[Scrapper (ROTF)|Scrapper]] (26)
*[[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] (27)
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] (22)
|c3=
*[[Sam Witwicky]] (2)
*[[Mikaela Banes]] (3)
*[[Leo Spitz]] (4)
*[[Seymour Simmons]] (5)
*[[William Lennox]] (13)
*[[Ray Epps]] (14)
*[[Theodore Galloway|Director Galloway]] (15)
*[[Sarah Lennox]] (18)
*[[Monique Epps]] (19)
*[[Admiral Morshower]] (20)
|c4=
*[[The Fallen]] (29)

}}

== Quotes ==

== Errors ==
*On page 10, [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] is slightly miscolored, with a lot more black parts in vehicle mode than he should have.
*The Egyptian police cars on pages 10-13 sport a generic American police car deco. Police cars in Cairo are entirely black, with blue police lights.
*On page 11, the police car in the first panel has the blue police light on the left and the red light on the right... even though it's seen in [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee's]] rear view mirror and should therefore have the lights swapped. Also, [[Mikaela Banes |Mikaela]]'s speech bubble is coming from [[Sam Witwicky|Sam]].
*On page 15, when Sam is explaining the three kings, he should say "then—the pyramids", instead of "them—the pyramids".
*The spy satellite [[Morshower|Admiral Morshower]] gets his live feed of the battle in Egypt from is somehow capable of gathering images almost from a ground level.
*All of the humans (except [[Epps|Epps]] and Mikaela) have longer hair in this one issue due to the artist change.

== Items of note ==
*As Jetfire's dialogue shows, [[Simon Furman|Furman]] appears to have problems adapting the movie-style humor into comic book dialogue. It appears like it's ''intended'' to come across as funny, it just doesn't really ''work''.
* Two of the Decepticons on page 8 sport the color schemes of [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[Banzai-Tron (G1)|Banzai-Tron]] and [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]].
*Megatron can still turn into a Cybertronian jet.
*At least eleven incoming comet Decepticons enter the battle.
*[[Seymour Simmons|Simmons']] nicknames for [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]], "Huey and Dewey", have made it into the adaptation, one of very, very few of the movie's humorous elements to do so.
*The cover image of combined Jetfire and Optimus beating up Starscream never happens.
*On page 7 Jetfire states that The Fallen killed all of his "brother Primes". "Brother Primes" must refer to only the original Primes since on the next page Jetfire states that the Prime Dynasty was destroyed in a subsequent war on Cybertron, where all of the rest of the Primes were slaughtered except one orphan.

===Differences with the movie===
*[[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie's]] speech is imperfect in a ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] kind of way, whereas in the [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|movie]], he merely talks with a Brooklyn accent.
*Wheelie disappears a lot earlier than in the movie, right after [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] transforms. As a consequence, he never defects to the Autobots.
*In the film, six Primes sacrifice themselves to create the [[Tomb of the Primes]]. Here, 11 Primes have already been killed by The Fallen, and the 12th creates the tomb from their bodies, killing only himself to seal it up.
*The Autobots are walking onto the cargo plane in robot mode rather than being loaded onto it in vehicle mode.
*[[Jolt (ROTF)| Jolt]] doesn't appear, due to being a last-minute addition to the film.
*Instead of [[Seymour Simmons|Simmons]] calling [[William Lennox|Lennox]], [[Sam Witwicky|Sam]] calls [[Sarah Lennox|Lennox's wife]]. She and [[Monique Epps|Epps' wife]] then call their husbands and give them a very poorly disguised hidden message. In the movie, the wives are never seen.
*The fight between [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] inside Petra is the ''only'' time they fight in the adaptation. In fact, it's one of the very few instances where the two have any dialogue.
*[[Theodore Galloway|Galloway]] is ''still'' talking after he has been thrown off the plane. Gotta love those comic book standards.
*[[Morshower|Admiral Morshower]] is monitoring the battle in Egypt via a satellite feed (with the feed coming from a camera that somehow manages to take images almost from a ground level), rather than sending Predator drones.
*Scavenger and Overload are shown in robot mode, instead of only appearing in vehicle mode.
*[[The Fallen]] teleports himself directly to the top of the pyramid, making this the first scene in the adaptation where he is seen outside his sarcophagus.

== Covers (2) ==
*'''Cover A:''' Optimus Prime combined with Jetfire by [[Josh Nizzi]]
*'''Cover B:''' CGI render of Starscream

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