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General Grievous

2010-02-04T02:24:26Z

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: ''General Grievous is a Kaleesh Separatist general in [[Star Wars]].''

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'''General Grievous''' has trained in the art of lightsaber combat with the evil [[Count Dooku]]. He is skilled in several unorthodox fighting techniques, such as a "furious four-[[lightsaber]] assault", and has used these skills to cut down several [[Jedi]] Knights. Now, Grievous changes into Wheel Bike mode to hunt and destroy [[Obi-Wan Kenobi]] and the remaining Jedi.<ref>''Star Wars Transformers'' General Grievous / Wheel Bike package</ref> He is the leader of the [[Confederacy of Independent Systems|Separatist]] army, which apparently has lots of [[Battle Droid|droids]].<ref>''Star Wars Transformers'' Obi-Wan Kenobi / Jedi Starfighter package</ref> We're repeatedly told that he's much-feared, and he is guarded by his personal bodyguards, the [[MagnaGuard]]s.<ref>''Crossovers'' MagnaGuard / MagnaGuard Starfighter package</ref>

He seems to be a raging religious bigot against Jedi. But what manner of being is this Grievous?

==Toys==
===Star Wars Transformers===
[[Image:SWTF-toy GrievousWheelBike.JPG|right|300px|thumb|He's very proud of his [[Frenzy (Movie)|little brother]].]]
*'''General Grievous / Wheel Bike''' (2006)
**''Accessories:'' Missile, gun, 2 lightsabers (green & blue), General Grievous figure

:Grievous transforms into a [[Wheel Bike]], equipped with a laser cannon and a side-mounted cockpit.

:Like all the initial ''Star Wars'' toys, the toy includes a tiny figure of the actual character, who can sit in the pilot's seat to operate the vehicle form.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/SWTF/GeneralGrievous/generalgrievous.htm More information on General Grievous at TFU.info]''

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===Crossovers===
[[Image:Crossovers-toy GrievousStarfighter.JPG|right|300px|thumb|]]
*'''General Grievous to Grievous Starfighter''' (Star Wars, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' Missile, 2 lightsabers (green & blue)

:As the name suggests, this version of General Grievous transforms into [[wikia:starwars:General_Grevious%27s_Starfighter|his own starfighter]]. It comes with two lightsabers, one green and one blue, and a hand-held blaster with spring-loaded missile. The blaster doesn't fit in either of his hands very well, and it can't be stored anywhere while Grievous is in robot mode. While the arms and legs have excellent articulation, his waist is held in place due to the large amount of [[kibble]] connected at the waist locking into his back during transformation. His head can turn from side to side. Like all of the ''Crossovers'' figures, it does not come with a pilot mini-figure, but still has an opening cockpit with space for one, specifically the Grievous mini-figure from the previous mold of the character.

: Later runs of the toy uses different packaging that adds an apostrophe to the toy's name, making it "Grievous' Starfighter".

==Footnotes==
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Talk:Ahsoka Tano

2010-02-03T21:13:39Z

207.181.17.24: New page: The ship is a female Transformer, just not a CYBERTRONIAN Transformer. ~~~~

The ship is a female Transformer, just not a CYBERTRONIAN Transformer. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 16:13, 3 February 2010 (EST)

David Kaye

2010-02-03T19:10:02Z

207.181.17.24: /* Trivia */

{{disambig3|David}}

[[Image:DavidKaye1.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Just keep that [[Raksha|crazy snake-woman]] away from me!]]
'''David Kaye''' (born '''David V. Hope''' on [[October 14]], 1964) is a Canadian voice actor. Some of his more popular roles include Professor X from ''X-Men Evolution'', Treize Khushrenada from ''Mobile Suit Gundam Wing'', and Sesshomaru from ''InuYasha''. He's also voiced a [[Megatron (Armada)|certain Decepticon]] several times. [[Megatron (BW)|Yeeessssss...]]

He has a '''BIG''' boost of confidence!

==Voice roles==
===''Beast Wars''===
*[[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]

===''Beast Machines''===
*Megatron
* [[Noble|Savage/Noble]]

===''Armada''===
*[[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron/Galvatron]]

===''Energon''===
*Megatron/Galvatron

===''Cybertron''===
*Megatron/Galvatron

===''Transformers Animated''===
*[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]]
*[[Lugnut]]
*[[Security Bot]] ([[Total Meltdown]])
*[[Grimlock (Animated)|Grimlock]]
*[[Trash Bot]] ([[Sound and Fury]])
*[[News Bot]] ([[Headmaster (episode)|Headmaster]])
*[[Sparkplug (Animated human)|Sparkplug]] ([[Sari, No One's Home]])
*[[Cliffjumper (Animated)|Cliffjumper]]
*[[Highbrow (Animated)|Highbrow]]
*[[Warpath (Animated)|Warpath]]

====Incidentals====
* Technician 1 ([[Transform and Roll Out]])
* Firefighter (Transform and Roll Out)
* Fan #2 (Transform and Roll Out)
* Fan #1 ([[Home Is Where the Spark Is]])
* Nature Show Narrator (Home Is Where the Spark Is)
* Customer ([[Nanosec (episode)|Nanosec]])
* Man ([[Along Came a Spider]])
* Intercom Voice ([[Sound and Fury]])
* [[Irate Citizen]] ([[Garbage In, Garbage Out]])
* Driver ([[Velocity]])

==Convention appearances==
* [[BotCon]] ([[BotCon 1997|1997]], [[BotCon 1998|1998]], [[BotCon 2007|2007]], [[BotCon 2008|2008]], [[BotCon 2009|2009]])
* [[OTFCC 2003]]
* [[Unofficial conventions|TFcon 2004]]

==Trivia==
*He is the only voice actor who has voiced both [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] as regular roles.
* He has appeared in six separate ''Transformers'' series, the most for any single TF voice actor.
*When originally auditioning for ''[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'', Kaye originally read for the role of [[Optimus Primal]] while [[Garry Chalk]] read for the sinister [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]].
*He voices two Transformers whose alt modes are Tyrannosaurus rex: [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] and [[Grimlock (Animated)|Grimlock]].
*He is a wonderful human being.{{fact}}
*[[Bill Fagerbakke]] says his mom is hot. This disturbs him. '''And''' us.
*He brought his father to TFcon 2004 with him.
*He voiced [[Captain America]] in the ''Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2'' video game. Cap has appeared in Transformers comic and has a Crossovers toy.

==External links==
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0443286/ David Kaye at the Internet Movie Database]

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Captain America

2010-02-03T18:57:18Z

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:''Captain America is a [[human]] in the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Captain America.jpg|right|250px|thumb|When Captain America throws his mighty shiiiiiiield, all those who chose to oppose his shield must yiiiiiiiiield...]]
'''Captain America''', real name '''Steve Rogers''', is the superhero leader of the [[Avengers]]. A legendary super-soldier, he leads his team with courage and skill, and is willing to make tough decisions in the name of liberty. He obtained his enhanced strength and stamina through an experimental bio-enhancement serum, and carries an extremely durable shield.

==Fiction==
===Marvel comics continuity===
Shortly after [[Donny Finkleberg]] is fired, a Captain America stand can be seen in his publisher's office. {{storylink|I, Robot-Master!}}

===''New Avengers/Transformers''===
Captain America, in contact with [[Director Hill]], led the [[Avengers]] sent to investigate the conflict between [[Latveria]] and [[Symkaria]]. Arriving in Latveria, they found a strange [[Array|domed structure]] unlike anything found on [[Earth]]. Entering it, the Avengers were attacked by the building's defenses and [[Spider-Man]] was kidnapped, which upset [[Wolverine]] and [[Luke Cage]]. Captain America decided to throw some insults their way. The three remaining Avengers were subsequently joined by [[Ms. Marvel]] and the [[Falcon (superhero)|Falcon]], just in time to encounter a group of [[Autobot|Autobots]]. Unknowingly under the insidious influence of the [[Psycho-Prism]], Captain America ordered his Avengers to attack. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part One|Man and Machine, Part One}}

As the two teams skirmished, [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] planted an inhibitor device on Captain America, negating the Prism's effects. As the Avengers stood down, [[Doctor Doom]] joined them and vowed to help them defend his homeland against the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]], who had stolen the Psycho-Prison from him. Cap summoned [[Iron Man]] and set to attacking the Decepticon Array. The combined efforts of the Avengers and Autobots failed to make a dent in it—until the fortress's walls opened up to reveal a team of Decepticons in [[mirror response mode]]! {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Two|Man and Machine, Part Two}}

Captain America flew the Avengers' [[Quinjet]] into battle with the Decepticons' aerial forces, but soon found himself overwhelmed. With Iron Man's assistance, Cap, Falcon, and Ms. Marvel managed to ground the fliers, but found that their efforts had been in vain when [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and Doom announced that they had joined forces and taken Ratchet, [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], Spider-Man, and Luke Cage hostage, vowing to kill them if their teammates did not surrender. Cap sided with [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] in his willingness to sacrifice the hostages to prevent a Symkarian-Latverian war, but [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] proposed another solution. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Three|Man and Machine, Part Three}}

Outside the Array, Captain America confronted Megatron with his allies. With the hostages successfully freed and the Psycho-Prism destroyed, the Avengers and Autobots decisively beat the Decepticons, forcing them to flee. Cap received word from [[S.H.I.E.L.D.]] that the Symkarians had called off their attack, and departed with Wolverine, Iron Man, and Spider-Man in the Quinjet—which seemed ''different'' somehow…. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Four|Man and Machine, Part Four}}

==Toys==
===Crossovers===
[[Image:MarvelCrossovers Captainamerica.JPG|right|300px|thumb|Captain America gets re-incarnated as a Transformer now that Bucky Barnes stole his job.]]
*'''Captain America''' (Marvel, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' Shield

:Captain America transforms into a big, gas-guzzling, all-American Humvee with a mismatched paint job and a spare tire on the back. In robot mode, the tire becomes Cap's shield and can be affixed to either of his forearms. Pressing the star in the center causes the shield to pop open, increasing its circumference so it doesn't look dinky. In the interest of making the robot mode look more like Captain America, the Humvee's front end and roof ended up being blue while the rest of the vehicle is red. Cap's red plastic parts—including the running board steps, the rear bumper, and the tail lights, but not the windows—have been left unpainted, effectively neutering some of the intricacy of the figure's otherwise interesting design.

:This mold will be [[retool]]ed to make the [[Punisher]].

==Notes==
* Captain America has been voiced by [[David Kaye]] and [[Tom Kenny]] in various cartoons and video games.

==External links==
* [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/c:Marveldatabase:Steven_Rogers_%28Earth-616%29Captain America at Marvel Database]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_America Captain America at Wikipedia]

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Ahsoka Tano

2010-02-03T18:22:10Z

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:''Ahsoka Tano is an [[alien]] from [[Star Wars]].''
{{mainpic|July 23 2009}}
'''Ahsoka Tano''', a young female alien of some kind, is a [[Jedi]] Padawan. While it is unclear exactly what a Padawan is, Ahsoka has access to a transforming [[Jedi Starfighter|starfighter]] just like other known Jedi.

==Fiction==
===Star Wars===
During the [[Clone Wars]], Ahsoka destroyed a [[Battle Droid|droid]] factory on a remote planet.<ref>''Crossovers'' Ahsoka Tano to Jedi Starfighter toy bio</ref>

==Toys==
===''Crossovers''===
[[Image:Crossovers-toy_AhsokaTano.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Ahsoka Tano to Jedi Starfighter''' (2009)
**''Accessories:'' 2 hyperdrive ring parts, 2 hyperdrive engines/missile launchers, 2 lightsabers/missiles

:Ahsoka's toy is a [[retool]] of ''[[Crossovers]]'' [[Anakin Skywalker]], which in turn was a retool of [[Saesee Tiin]]. She transforms into a dark burgundy and white [[wikia:starwars:Delta-7B_Aethersprite-class_light_interceptor|Delta-7B interceptor]] and is equipped with two green [[lightsaber]]s that can be either handheld or fired as missiles from the starship's "hyperdrive ring" engines. The cockpit opens up to fit a single ''[[Star Wars Transformers]]'' mini-figure, although Ahsoka, like all ''Crossovers'' toys, does not come with one.

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==References==
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==External links==
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Darth Vader

2010-02-03T17:05:34Z

207.181.17.24: /* Star Wars Transformers */

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: ''Darth Vader is a [[human]] in [[Star Wars]].''

[[Image:VaderVsPrime.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"Does Darth Vader have to choke a bitch?" is always a rhetorical question.]]
'''Darth Vader''' was once a man named '''Anakin Skywalker''' who converted to the dark side. He is possessed of great power, cunning, and speed. Once he called [[Obi-Wan Kenobi]] "master" although the exact nature of that relationship (could such a powerful being have once been a Jedi's slave?) and how it ended remain a mystery. He's been a member of the [[Jedi]] himself, and has been called "the most gifted pilot in the galaxy". He flies a variety of ships, at some point even an odd spherical "[[Death Star]]", all of which can transform into a humanoid robot designed in his own image. Despite all the imposing weapons at his disposal, he is a very powerful man, one of the most powerful masters of the [[Force]], in his own right, known to fight [[Transformer|Cybertronians]] ''on foot''.

He is presumably related to the similarly named [[Luke Skywalker]] in some way.

== Fiction ==
===''Star Wars Transformers''===

Shortly after being converted from his previous beliefs to the [[Sith]] faction, Darth Vader is given the task of crushing all resistance to the [[Emperor Palpatine|Emperor]] across the galaxy. Piloting his new, heavily modified Sith Starfighter and wielding dark power, he morphs his spacecraft into an imposing combat robot.<ref>''Star Wars Transformers'' Darth Vader Sith Starfighter package</ref>

Later, as a sinister Lord of the Sith, Darth Vader is on a mission to crush the Rebels and bring young [[Luke Skywalker]] before the Emperor. Vader combs the galaxy for Skywalker in his TIE Advanced Fighter, another spacecraft that can morph into a humanoid robot, destroying all Rebel ships, pirate fleets, and asteroids that get in his way.<ref>''Star Wars Transformers'' Darth Vader TIE Advanced Fighter package</ref>

Using his advanced TIE mecha once more, Vader participates in a shattering starship battle with his former master. Unable to best his opponent in giant robot combat Darth Vader is forced to fall back on his ship's vehicle mode's missile defenses. Giving us a true sense of their power, we learn that like [[Primus]] and [[Unicron]] before them, the conflict between these two powerful force users is enough to rock an entire galaxy.<ref>''Star Wars Transformers'' Darth Vader "Galactic Showdown" set</ref>

===Dreamwave ''Transformers/G.I. Joe'' comics===
Upon seeing [[Barbecue]] in his heat-resistant equipment, [[Shipwreck]] wondered when [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] had recruited Darth Vader. {{storylink|Targets of Opportunity}}

==Toys==
===Attacktix===
[[Image:Attacktix DarthVader.JPG|right|206px|thumb|Damn kids, GET OFF the LAWN!]]
*'''Intergalactic Showdown''' (Multi-pack, 2006)

:Darth Vader comes in a set with Luke Skywalker, an AT-RT non-humanoid piloted robot with [[Clone Pilot|driver]], [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]], [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]], and [[Omega Sentinel (Energon)|Omega Sentinel]].

:Darth Vader also has four other ''[[Attacktix]]'' figures not sold in ''Transformers'' packaging, designated "Starter Set", "Series 1", "Series 2", and "Series 3". The Starter Set figure reveals him to be the same person as Anakin Skywalker!

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===Star Wars Transformers===
[[Image:SWTFtoy-VaderTIE.JPG|right|300px|thumb|What kind of [[wikipedia:Doctor_Eggman|egomaniac]] has the robots he pilots made to look just like him?]]
*'''Darth Vader TIE Advanced''' (2006)
**''Accessories:'' 2 lightsabers/missiles, 2 solar panels/shield & cape, Darth Vader figure
:Darth Vader's first mecha transforms into a [[wikia:starwars:TIE_Advanced_x1|TIE Advanced Starfighter]], featuring twin spring-loaded missile launchers. These missiles become "[[lightsaber]]" melee weapons for the robot mode. One of the vehicle mode's solar panel arrays forms a "cape" for the robot mode, the other a large deflector shield. Like all ''Star Wars Transformers'' toys, it comes with a tiny mini-figure of its pilot that fits into the ship's cockpit.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/SWTF/DarthVader/darthvader.htm More information on Darth Vader at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:SWTFtoy-AnakinSkywalker.JPG|right|300px|thumb|"Spoilers? This ship doesn't have—ohhhh, that kind of spoilers."]]
*'''Anakin Skywalker Jedi Starfighter''' (2006)
**''Accessories:'' 2 lightsabers/missiles, Anakin Skywalker figure
:A [[redeco]] and [[Retool|retooling]] of the [[Obi-Wan Kenobi|Obi-Wan Jedi Starfighter]], Anakin's mech transforms into an [[wikia:starwars:Eta-2_Actis-class_light_interceptor|Eta-2 Actis interceptor]] with twin spring-loaded "lightsaber" missile launchers, and flip-up [[wikia:starwars:S-foils|S-foils]].

:This mold was also retooled to make a new Vader ship as well as [[Mace Windu]]'s craft.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/SWTF/AnakinSkywalker/anakinskywalker.htm More information on Anakin Skywalker at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:SWTFtoy-VaderSithFighter.JPG|right|300px|thumb|Help! I've gone black and I can't go back!]]
*'''Darth Vader Sith Starfighter''' (2006)
**''Accessories:'' 2 lightsabers/missiles, Darth Vader figure
:Another incarnation of the Eta-2 mold, this one has been [[Retool|retooled]] and [[Redeco|redecoed]] into Anakin's new persona as Darth Vader. It retains all of the same gimmicks as previous versions of the mold. The head is different from all other Vader Transformer molds, having a more stylized robotic look as opposed to the direct translation of the TIE Advanced mold. This ship features an inbuilt R4-K4 droid in place of the previous R2-D2. <ref>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/R4-K5</ref>

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/SWTF/SithDarthVader/darthvader.htm More information on Darth Vader at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:SWTFtoy-VaderDeathStar.JPG|right|300px|thumb|Great, now the "vs. [[Unicron]]" debates will never end.]]
*'''Darth Vader/Death Star''' (2007)
**''Accessories:'' Gun, missile, lightsaber, cape, 3 TIE Fighters, 3 Stormtrooper figures, Darth Vader figure
:The imposing, sole Supreme-class figure of the ''Star Wars Transformers'' toyline, this gigantic Darth Vader mech transforms into the planet-destroying [[Death Star]]. Featuring excellent [[Articulation]], it has ratchet joints at the shoulders, elbows, hips, and knees, with swivel joints taking up the remaining few. In both modes, it has a spring loaded missile launcher that fires a small, translucent green projectile. It also features lights and sounds, with several clips taken from the movie. In robot mode, it has a seriously gigantic light saber. Taped inside the package is a cloth cape which can be attached to the back of the figure in robot mode (be careful not to throw it away).

[[Image:SW DeathStar Vader details.jpg|left|100px|thumb|Darth Vader and his bitches—er, that is, Stormtroopers.]]
:Like all figures in the ''Star Wars Transformers'' line, it comes with a pilot figure of the character the toy depicts. Additionally, it comes with three more figures, all of which are generic [[Stormtrooper (Star Wars)|Stormtroopers]]. Three [[TIE Fighter|TIE Fighters]] are also included, which also have a Mech Mode. Oddly, the instructions and description on the box refer to them as [[Mini-Con|Mini-Cons]]. In both modes, panels on the back open to reveal storage compartments for the pilots and TIE Fighters, while in Mech mode there are several smaller compartments on the legs and shoulders for the pilots.

:The instructions give no suggestion as to where to put the lightsaber in vehicle mode, though there is plenty of empty space inside. Additionally, the compartments on either side of the back seem at first barely large enough to accommodate more than one TIE at a time without disassembling the solar arrays, but it is actually possible to fit two of them as a whole in one case with some intelligent positioning.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/SWTF/DarthVader/darthvader.htm More information on Darth Vader at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:SWTF-toy GalacticShowdownVader.JPG|right|175px|thumb|Come on, why [[Megatron (Movie)|doesn't]] he [[Megatron (G1)|transform into his own lightsaber to have someone else swing him around]]?]]
*'''Galactic Showdown''' (2007)

: A redeco of the TIE Advanced Fighter in a brighter white (really bringing the black parts out), this version of Vader comes in a Wal-Mart [[Exclusive]] two-pack with a redeco of the [[Obi-Wan Kenobi|Obi-Wan Kenobi Jedi Starfighter]].

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===Crossovers===
[[Image:Crossovers-toy AnakinSkywalker.JPG|right|300px|thumb|]]
*'''Jedi Starfighter to Anakin Skywalker''' (2008)
**''Accessories:'' 2 hyperdrive ring parts, 2 hyperdrive engines/missile launchers, 2 lightsabers/missiles
:A [[retool]] of the [[Saesee Tiin]] [[wikia:starwars:Delta-7_Aethersprite-class_light_interceptor|Delta-7 interceptor]] mold into a [[wikia:starwars:Delta-7B_Aethersprite-class_light_interceptor|Delta-7B]] (the difference being that the [[R2-D2|astromech droid]] is in the center of the craft instead of on the left wing) and featuring a new head. Anakin once again comes with two lightsabers/missiles, this time fired from the thrusters on the starfighter's hyperdrive ring. Unlike the toys released under the ''Star Wars Transformers'' banner, this toy does not come with a tiny pilot figure.

:This version of the mold was retooled with new heads to make [[Ahsoka Tano]] and [[Kit Fisto]]'s Jedi Starfighters, while the original Saesee Tiin version was also used to make [[Obi-Wan Kenobi]] and [[Plo Koon]].

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*'''Darth Vader to TIE Advanced X1 Starfighter''' (2006)
**''Accessories:'' 2 lightsabers/missiles, 2 solar panels/shield & cape
:A repackaging of the very first transforming Darth Vader toy. While the toy is identical to the previous release, the mini-figure accessory was removed for this release.

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[[Image:Crossovers-toy_AnakinTwilight.jpg|right|300px|thumb|And so the [[Lionbreast]] fell in love with the lamb.]]
*'''Anakin Skywalker to The ''Twilight''''' (2009)
**''Accessories'':

:This Anakin toy transforms from a robot with asymmetrical arms to the equally asymmetrical starship known as the ''[[Twilight (Star Wars)|Twilight]]''. He comes with [[R2-D2]], whose purpose is unclear.

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==Notes==
* The Darth Vader/Death Star Transformer was at one point going to be based around the incomplete second Death Star shown in ''Return of the Jedi'' and had a similarly incomplete robot mode with one shattered eye.<ref>Hasbro Design Sketchbook Volume 1 - 2008, p 12-13</ref> This was eschewed in favor of using the complete Death Star and robot mode. It is otherwise identical to the concept art.

==References==
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Studio OX

2010-02-02T23:59:01Z

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[[Image:StudioOxHumongousCityCommanders01.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Where is your god, now?]]

Founded by Sugito Atsuhiko in 1985, '''Studio OX''' (スタジオ OX) is a feelance art studio that produced more "anime styled" Transformers art for ''[[TV Magazine]]'' and ''[[Comic Bom Bom]]'' throughout the early years of [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generatiion 1]] in Japan. They continue to provide production and conceptual artwork to this day, primarily for feature film animation, such as ''Gunhead'' and ''Android Kikaider''.

Their Transformer character designs are notable for being far more detailed than [[Floro Dery]]'s models, as well as borrowing visual elements from Japanese mecha designs. Being an actual ''studio'' comprised of numerous artists (most of whom went without individual credits), the quality and details of Studio OX's ''Transformers'' often fluctuated wildly. Both scale and proportions were often brutalized to horrific effect, while other pieces boasted more technically pleasing, dynamic action.

Studio OX's participation in the ''Transformers'' franchise was gradually phased out as the popularity of the series died down. By the time of ''[[Zone (franchise)|Zone]]'', nearly all [[story page]]s and magazine artwork was provided by [[Ban Magami]] with additional pieces of box artwork from [[Hidetsugu Yoshioka]] to round out the decreased page space.

=="Call of the Primitives"==

Although the character designs created by Floro Dery and the animators at [[Toei]] were typically the ones used in the ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers]]'' animated series, a lone exception was made for the episode "[[Call of the Primitives]]". For reasons unknown, this single episode chose to use the more detailed Studio OX character designs and is often praised for its beauty. A long-standing rumor is that the episode was animated by [[Tokyo Movie Shinsha]], who only worked on this single episode for the series, which might lend an explanation as to why they used alternate character models from the other studios. Regardless, no proof has surfaced to explain this oddity.

The folks at [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] were very excited about this episode, in large part due to the impressive visuals. "Call of the Primitives" was heavily promoted in the pages of ''[[TV Magazine]]'', boasting a full-color two-page spread filled with still frames of the episode. Most episode promotions in ''TV Magazine'' were simply one-page collections of art by [[Ban Magami]], usually two to four pieces per page, and always in black and white. "Call of the Primitives" received what can only modestly be described as "preferential treatment".

==Artwork collections==

Several resource books have been printed in Japan collecting large portions of Studio OX artwork. ''[[Transformers Generations]]'' boasted a large collection of both color and line art by Studio OX in both its original and ''Deluxe'' printings. Perhaps most comprehensive, though, would be ''[[Transformers Visualworks]]'', which dedicated an even larger section to spotlighting the work of Studio OX.

==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
Image:DevastatorManga1.jpg|Devastatingly handsome.
Image:PredakingTVMag1.jpg|Not a very fair fight? Those Autobots are pussies.
Image:Springerstudiooxcharactermodel.jpg|He never looked that good in the cartoon.
Image:GestaltTrioTVMagazine.jpg|Yeah, Studio OX had their ups and downs...
</gallery>

*''[[:Category:Images by Studio OX|Extended Studio OX gallery]]''</center>

==External link==

*[http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%82%B8%E3%82%AAOX Studio OX at Wikipedia (Japanese)]

[[Category:Companies]]

Talk:Storm Surge (Universe)

2010-02-02T21:22:26Z

207.181.17.24: /* Arms */

== Arms ==

"The shoulder pieces on the Universe version are reversed from the Movie 2007 release, making the arms not rest flat in alternate mode."

I don't have the Movie version to compare to, but my Storm Surge seems to rest flat. Is this a common problem or is someone just overreacting to their toy being defective? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:30, 18 December 2009 (EST)

Wouldn't both versions of this toy be repurposed as SG Seaspray? [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 16:22, 2 February 2010 (EST)

Zapmaster (Armada)

2010-01-26T19:02:09Z

207.181.17.24:

{{factions|minicon|decepticon}}
:''Zapmaster is a [[Mini-Con]] from the [[Armada (franchise)|Armada]] portion of the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].''
{{mainpic|29 April 2007}}
'''Zapmaster''' will attack just about anything head-on, no matter how big and overpowering it may be. "Fear" doesn't ever seem to register in his brain. He lived in the [[Wastelands]] of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] for who-knows-how-long, which turned him into the vicious little bugger he is today. Zapmaster is the cousin of [[Swindle (Armada)|Swindle]], whatever that actually means.

{{-}}

==Toys==
===Armada===
[[Image:Armada-toy_Zapmaster.JPG|right|thumb|250px]]
*'''Thundercracker with Zapmaster''' (Max-Con, 2003)

: A [[redeco]] of ''Armada'' [[Swindle (Armada)|Swindle]] mold, Zapmaster transforms into an F-1 race car. He is designed to fit between Thundercracker's flip-out missile launchers, and can also be clipped on the underside of Thundercracker's jet-mode cockpit, deployed by pressing down on the canopy.

: This mold is similar to, but not the same as, the mold used to make ''Armada'' [[Mirage (Armada)|Mirage]] and [[Top Gear]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Mini-Con/Zapmaster/zapmaster.htm More information on Zapmaster at TFU.info]''

{{-}}
*'''Thundercracker with Zapmaster''' (Built To Rule, 2003)

: For the Hasbro ''[[Built to Rule]]'' building block system, Zapmaster was a simple [[redeco]] of the small, building-block-based version of Swindle. This toy can be rebuilt from robot mode into something kind of vaguely resembling a race car. Sort of.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Mini-Con/BTRZapmaster/zapmaster.htm More information on ''Built to Rule'' Zapmaster at TFU.info]''

{{-}}
===Energon===
*'''Prowl with Longarm & Starscream with Zapmaster''' (Multi-pack, 2004)

: Zapmaster got redecoed again, as sort of a reverse-Swindle, as part of the Sam's Club [[exclusive]] ''[[Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'' multi-pack. This time he was partnered with [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], who also came with [[Prowl (Energon)|Prowl]] and his "reassigned" Mini-Con partner [[Longarm (Armada)|Longarm]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Mini-Con/Zapmaster/zapmaster.htm More information on Sam's Club exclusive Zapmaster at TFU.info]''

{{-}}
==Trivia==
* In Japan, the ''Armada'' Thundercracker/Zapmaster set was actually used (with ever-so-slight plastic tweaks) as the powered-up versions of [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] and Swindle rather than new characters.

[[Category:Armada characters]]
[[Category:Built to Rule]]
[[Category:Energon characters]]
[[Category:Mini-Cons]]
[[Category:Sam's Club exclusives]]

Blitzwing Bop

2010-01-08T00:08:39Z

207.181.17.24: /* Errors */

{{comicstory
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|prev=Wings of Honor
|next=At Fight's End
|seriesissue2=[[Shattered Glass (fiction)|Shattered Glass]]
|prev2=Eye in the Sky
|next2=Transhuman
|image=Blitzwingbop.jpg
|caption=
|title="Blitzwing Bop"
|publisher=[[Fun Publications]]
|date=[[November 17]], [[2009]]
|written by=[[Trent Troop]] and [[Greg Sepelak]]
|illustrations by=[[Chad Porter]]
|cover=[[Chad Porter]]
|pagecount=35pp
|continuity=[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]
}}
'''Blitzwing inadvertently becomes a musical countdown, and not the kind that sounds like Bluestreak.'''

==Synopsis==
{{stub}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Decepticon]]s|c1=
* [[Blitzwing (SG)|Blitzwing]] (2)
* [[Soundwave (SG)|Soundwave]] (6)
* [[Heatwave]] (7)
* [[Starscream (SG)|Starscream]] (10)
* [[Slugslinger (SG)|Slugslinger]] (18)
* [[Sideswipe (SG)|Sideswipe]] (19)
* [[Bombshell (SG)|Bombshell]] (20)
* [[Thunderwing (SG)|Thunderwing]] (27)
* [[Whisper (SG)|Whisper]] (28)
|h2=[[Autobot]]s|c2=
* [[Goldbug (SG)|Goldbug]] (3)
* [[Wheeljack (SG)|Wheeljack]] (4)
* [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]] (5)
* [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus "Prime"]] (13)
* [[Elita-One (SG)|Elita-One]] (15)
* [[Swoop (SG)|Swoop]] (16)
* [[Star Saber (SG)|Star Saber]] (17)
* [[Brawn (SG)|Brawn]] (21)
* [[Blaster (SG)|Blaster]] (22)
* [[Ratchet (SG)|Ratchet]] (23)
* [[Beachcomber (SG)|Beachcomber]] (24)
|c3=
* [[Will Hayes|Will]] (1)
* [[Professor Arkeville]] (9)
* [[Sephie Beller|Sephie]] (11)
* [[Rick Ottman|Rick]] (12)
* [[Big Steve Ludwig (SG)|Big Steve Ludwig]] (25)
* [[Wyatt]] (26)
|c4=
* [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] (8)
* [[Teletraan-X]] (14)
}}

==Quotes==
"So tell me about Cybertron." 
"Why?" 
"I've never been there, Blitzwing. Thought it'd be interesting." 
"Okay. Imagine a junk yard. Now make it the size of a planet, and set big patches of it on fire. I suppose that's interesting in a horrible sort of way, but there's nothing appealing about it."
:—'''Will''' finds out from '''Blitzwing''' that Cybertron is not a good tourist destination.

"If my examination of Starscream's systems is accurate, unless we can stop the subspace transmission, Blitzwing's signal will eventually cause permanent memory damage... possibly even catastrophic data corruption." 
"Whoah, that means-" 
"If it's not stopped, this 'rock and roll' assault will rapidly become... '''death metal'''."
:—'''Arkeville''' and '''Soundwave''' engage in bad puns.

"Right now, I gots two idiot humans yammerin' 'bout venting exhaust stuck in my head. They will not shut up. An' I can still bend your fenders in a knot an' stick 'em in your reactor linkage! So '''up your tube with an energon cube! Capiche?!'''"
:—'''Rodimus''' lets Blaster know who's the boss.

''Beachcomber had survived the decon bath, the optic calibration process, the hallway filled with zero-friction lubricant and three chemical explosions since breaching the outer defenses of the Decepticon base. He had been thrown about, smashed and lit on fire by four puddles of organic waste.'' 
''He was not happy.'' 
''Now, however, the enemy was out of tricks, and out of places to run.'' 
''That made him happy. Insanely happy.''
:—Beachcomber deals with getting the "Home Alone" treatment from the humans.

==Notes==
===Errors===
*Heatwave's feelings of "joy, happiness, compassion, love, and satisfaction" should probably be "joy, ''peace'', compassion, love, and satisfaction" to be a completely accurate reference to [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]].

*While Cliffjumper in-character almost calls the [[Stellar Spanner]] a [[space bridge]], at one point the narration itself also calls it a "spacebridge".

Note: While Soundwave mentions that Astrotrain crashed in the Arctic, this is not an error, as according to the author he meant for Soundwave to confuse the Arctic and Antarctic.

===Transformer references===
*[[Crasher (SG)|Crasher]] is mentioned as being granted honorary [[Socialist Democratic Federated Republic of Carbombya|Ottoman citizenship]] after saving [[Abdul Fakkadi|President Fakkadi]].

*The Decepticons save [[Blackrock Industries|Blackrock Oil]] members from the Autobots.

*Soundwave attends a joint [[Misfits]]/[[Cold Slither]] concert, and the (opposite-themed) lyrics to a few Cold Slither songs from an album ''[[Thunder Hammer]]'' are included at the back of the story.

*Astrotrain is a [[Jetfire (G1)|shuttle that crash lands in Antarctica]].

*As noted in the Errors, the Stellar Spanner is essentially a [[redeco]]ed space bridge.

*[[Jet judo]] is a martial art done ''by'' jets instead of ''to'' jets.

*The Stellar Spanner is labelled with [[Cybertronian languages|Autobot letters]].

*One of the Autobots' schemes involve creating drone cars at a "[[Wash and Roll|Roll-N-Wash]]".

*Brawn is a practitioner of [[Tekkaido]].

*Rick's little sister fawns over [[Brad White (SG)|Brad White]], the "dreamy" punk-ass counterpart to [[Rad White|some kid]].

*Sephie communicates via e-mail with someone who has the username "[[Stormbringer (disambiguation)|Stormbringer99]]".

*Thunderwing mentions that one of the criminals he's been chasing is a crime boss named [[Beta (SG)|Beta]].

*As noted in the Errors, when Heatwave gets sent through the Stellar Spanner, part of his trip involves the sensations of joy, happiness, compassion, love, and satisfaction, as well as a rainbow hue, no doubt coinciding with Aquarius activating the recall program that also [[Reunification|summoned the rest of the Nexus Prime gestalt to Cybertron]].

===Real-world references===
*The title of the story is a reference to the song "[[wikipedia:Blitzkrieg Bop|Blitzkrieg Bop]]" by the [[wikipedia:Ramones|Ramones]].

*Starscream, at some point before the story begins, fights a super-criminal known as "[[Spider-Man|Arachnolord]]".

*Congressman Shore is mentioned, a reference to Blackthorn Shore from ''[[wikipedia:The Inhumanoids|The Inhumanoids]]''.

*Will listens to [[wikipedia:The White Stripes|"The Pale Lines"]] on his [[oPod|O-Pod]].

*Ratchet thinks the lyrics to "Zydrate Anatomy" from ''[[wikipedia:Repo! The Genetic Opera|Repo! The Genetic Opera]]'' are catchy.

*Rodimus complains about being stuck listening to "Jim-Bob and Willy", a.k.a. the "[[wikipedia:Touch-Tone Terrorists|Touch-Tone Terrorists]]".

*Beachcomber's dialogue in the story is full of song lyric snippets:
**"[[wikipedia:Won't Get Fooled Again|Won't Get Fooled Again]]" by [[wikipedia:The Who|The Who]]
**"[[wikipedia:Carry On Wayward Son|Carry On Wayward Son]]" by [[wikipedia:Kansas|Kansas]]
**"Transmaniacon MC" by [[wikipedia:Blue Öyster Cult|Blue Öyster Cult]]
**"[[wikipedia:Magic Carpet Ride|Magic Carpet Ride]]" by [[wikipedia:Steppenwolf|Steppenwolf]]
**"PDA" by [[wikipedia:Interpol (band)|Interpol]]
**"Fire Poem" by [[wikipedia:Arthur Brown|Arthur Brown]]
**"[[wikipedia:(Don't Fear) The Reaper|(Don't Fear) The Reaper]]" by Blue Öyster Cult
**"[[wikipedia:Another One Bites the Dust|Another One Bites the Dust]]" by [[wikipedia:Queen|Queen]]
**"[[wikipedia:Helter Skelter (song)|Helter Skelter]]" by [[wikipedia:The Beatles|The Beatles]]
**"Nowhere to Run (Vapor Trail)" by [[wikipedia:The Crystal Method|The Crystal Method]]
**"[[wikipedia:One Way or Another|One Way or Another]]" by [[wikipedia:Blondie|Blondie]]
**"[[wikipedia:Psycho Killer|Psycho Killer]]" by [[wikipedia:Talking Heads|Talking Heads]]
**"[[wikipedia:Ace of Spades (song)|Ace of Spades]]" by [[wikipedia:|Motörhead]]
**"[[wikipedia:Spirit in the Sky|Spirit in the Sky]]" by [[wikipedia:Norman Greenbaum|Norman Greenbaum]]

*Aquarius leaves a message for Heatwave to "[[wikipedia:Keep on Truckin'|Keep on Truckin']]".

*The Cold Slither album liner notes at the back of the story have a number of references:
**One of the album's producers is "Synergy Music Ltd.", a reference to Synergy from ''[[wikipedia:Jem (TV series)|Jem and the Holograms]]''.
**Some of the song writer credits reference various members of [[Cobra]]: Buzzer and Torch from the [[Dreadnok]]s and [[Destro]].
**The songs "[[wikipedia:Battle Song of Liberty|Battle Song of Liberty]]" and "[[wikipedia:The Star-Spangled Banner|The Star-Spangled Banner]]" are on the album.
*Rodimus' line, "So up your tube with an energon cube!" is based on Vinnie Barbarino's famous line, "Up your nose with a rubber hose!".
==External links==
*[http://www.transformersclub.com/members/fiction.cfm Transformers Collectors' Club exclusive fiction] (must be a logged-in member to access)

[[Category:Shattered Glass]]
[[Category:Text stories]]

Talk:President of the United States

2009-11-23T16:45:00Z

207.181.17.24: /* Obama */

I suggest rather that we talk about all the various Presidents of the United States seen in Transformers in just one comprehensive article. It's just a title and not a single man. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:37, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
:Or woman! ('Cause, Cybertron.) --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:40, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
::I am so sad she wasn't Alexis. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:41, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

:::I woudl generally agree- but this guy is a major player in the Keepers trilogy. he has evil pots, and orders secret assasinations, and is generally a no-good shit. Just food for thought.
:::Move it if you like, I'll adapt. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:22, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I think real-world Earth things that show up in multiple continuities should get a single comprehensive page. For example, if Madonna was mentioned in the Armada comic, I don't think we should have a Madonna (G1) page and a Madonna (UT) page. Likewise, we have one Atlantis -- agh, Madonna just showed up on CNN, odd timing -- page and single pages for New York, Tokyo, etc. I think [[President of the United States]] falls under that precedent. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I've been noticing a LOT of skipped heading levels recently, usually 1-3, whichs eems frankly bizare to me. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:06, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

== Yes, She Is a Girl ==
I have no problem with letting the word "girl" stand if it's an in-joke, but why do people have a problem with "And good for her."? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
: I dunno. I know what you're going for, but despite that, it sounds kinda condescending. I keep wanting to add "And she's so articulate!" --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
:: ''I know what you're going for, but despite that, it sounds kinda condescending.'' Eh, fair point. I'll mull it over. [[User:JW|JW]] 20:31, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

== Slick Willie ==

Where's the Slick reference from?

Also, the S7 archives (flashing by in the movie) included mentions of several former Presidents by last name, including Clinton, but never (I think) identified as Presidents. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:42, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
:Simmons says something like "every U.S. president since [whoever was president when they built the thing; Hoover?] has seen this facility. Ike, JFK, LBJ, Tricky Dick, ''blahblahblah'', Ronnie (or Teflon Ronnie?), ''blahblah'', Slick Willie, and Dubya, have all seen what you're about to see." Unfortunately, we'll probably never know the exact wording, unless someone happens to have bootlegged an IMAX showing--and after two years no signs of that have surfaced. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 11:52, 18 June 2009 (EDT)

== Reorganize? ==

The current organization of this page is... a bit odd. (and inaccurate, since Plague of the Insecticons isn't, properly speaking, part of the core Marvel comics continuity.)

It's been observed that one of the few out-fiction we "allow" ourselves to know is the President's 'number.' (EG: [[Abraham_Lincoln|the 16th president of the United States]].) How would people feel about reorganizing this page to be by number? So we'd have a section for the 39th president, the 40th president, etc. I think there will be ''less'' messiness using this method than we currently face.

This would have the advantage of strongly delineating between fictional and nonfictional Presidents of the United States. Fictional ones don't get referred to by numbers. '''Example:''' According to The Keepers Trilogy, the Dreamwave POTUS was facing re-election in 2002, so it's hard to say what "President Number" he is. (I think that's possible under the U.S. Constitution too... some circumstance with a death in-office can push a presidential election on the next 2-year cycle.)

We've held off creating a visual/template language to clearly mark in-fiction/out-fiction/non-fictional content... but this strikes me as one of the pages it'd be useful to make the distinction on. We have [[Theodore Allen|fictional vice-presidents]] succeeding [[President_of_the_United_States#Transformers_.282007.29|non-fictional ones]]!

For a page like [[Simon Furman]] it's clear because we have a "Fiction" section. In this cause it's fiction-about-nonfictional-people mixed with fiction-about-fictional-people. And as much as we strive for outfiction-agnosticism... I feel like a distinction really ''ought'' to be made. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:18, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
:Sounds pretty good, but where would the fictional ones go? Tacked on the end?
:No there isn't any circumstance where a presidential election would have happened in '02. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:37, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
::Yeah - as I understand it, the only important thing in constitutional terms about the two-year mark is that, if the president dies in office ''before'' it, the VP/replacement can only be elected once (i.e., his time as a replacement counts as their first term), but if there's ''less'' than two years to go, then they can have two full terms on top of it. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 16:51, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

==Obama==
No snarky comment on Obama? Fixed. [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 10:07, 23 November 2009 (EST)
:I didn't get it, but hope you will find the alternative adequately snarky. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 10:15, 23 November 2009 (EST)
::Heck, it's not like that quote was even that snarky - that was ''exactly'' what Obama tried to do in ROTF. True to life n such! - McFeely, not signed in
:::I'm fine with the change, although it's not as biting, the other one was a quote from Senator Obama about Iran, just changing the president of Iran to Megatron and Isreal to humanity, but it was too long winded. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 11:45, 23 November 2009 (EST)

==President Colton?==
No mention of the President of the U.S. in Shattered Glass? [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 10:12, 23 November 2009 (EST)

Talk:Blitzwing Bop

2009-11-21T02:06:33Z

207.181.17.24:

No way! This thing is actually out? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:31, 18 November 2009 (EST)
:Yep. Blitzwing Bop has finally ceased being the TFCC equivalent of Duke Nukem Forever. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 07:37, 18 November 2009 (EST)
::I'm surprised we haven't added it to the "Things that don't exist" category. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:38, 18 November 2009 (EST)
:::I just want to know ''why'' it took so long to come out. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:41, 18 November 2009 (EST)
:::When Pete last updated about 2 weeks ago he said it was currently awaiting approval from Hasbro, but I don't know if that means it was waiting for Hasbro all this time, or just at that moment. So, can no content be added until December 17th 2009? I'm off to Wikipedia tomorrow to write at least a quick blurb synopsis, where the coverage may be brief, but it's timely. In the mean time I'm sure some people will be writing a more detailed one here. [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 10:20, 18 November 2009 (EST)
::::We're not a news site. We flourish on the quality of our content, not the magnitude of NOW NOW NOW it contains. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:56, 18 November 2009 (EST)
:::::Yeah, we'll put the stuff up in due time after the fanclub members have gotten to bask in it.
:::::...plus I'm still working on updating the SG pages with existing info. *shifty look* And we'll need the time to put together the giant References section this story is going to have. ;) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:03, 18 November 2009 (EST)
::::::Can we do the character list as well? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:02, 19 November 2009 (EST)

::::I wonder if it took a while to approve because of the sheer number of song lyric snippets in it, now that I think about it. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:15, 19 November 2009 (EST)
:::::That would be pretty unsurprising. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:52, 19 November 2009 (EST)
::::::I wouldn't be surprised either.
::::::Now, back to getting all the characters done. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 01:54, 20 November 2009 (EST)
:Is there some place off site, on in a "sandbox" were you can start writing the page, then put it up in a finished format on the day it's allowed? [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 21:06, 20 November 2009 (EST)

Deathsaurus (SG)

2009-11-21T02:03:58Z

207.181.17.24: /* Trivia */

{{factions|sgDecepticon}}
{{disambig2|the heroic Decepticon colonel|the evil Decepticon mastermind|Deathsaurus (Victory)}}
:''Deathsaurus is a heroic [[Decepticon]] from the [[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Mayhem suppression squad.jpg|thumb|right|300px|How many even ''less'' heroic-sounding names did he go through before he picked "Deathsaurus"?]]

'''Deathsaurus''' is [[Shattered Expectations|sometimes]] the leader of the [[Mayhem Suppression Squad]].

==Fiction==
===Shattered Expectations===
Responding to [[Razorclaw (SG)|Razorclaw's]] signal, Deathsaurus and the rest of the Mayhem Suppression Squad arrived on the scene aboard [[Astrotrain (SG)|Astrotrain]] and descended upon [[Jazz (SG)|Jazz]], [[Goldbug (SG)|Goldbug]], and [[Grimlock (SG)|Grimlock]]. {{storylink|Shattered Expectations}}

==Trivia==
* His appearance is based on [[BotCon 2005|BotCon 2005]]'s [[Deathsaurus#Timelines|Deathsaurus]] toy, but with [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber's]] colors. Whether this means he defeats his enemies with strange magicky attacks and bores them to death with long transformation sequences is unknown.
* His pose is identical to [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon's]] on [[:Image:Bludgeontalesofearth.jpg|this panel]] of "[[Tales of Earth Part One]]" from the ''[[Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]'' comics.

[[Category:Comic-only characters]]
[[Category:Mayhem Suppression Squad]]

Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)

2009-11-20T15:36:10Z

207.181.17.24: /* Deluxe Class */

{{Template:Nav-SG}}
[[Image:Onegenerationshattered.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Collecting this line will be expensive!]]
Like most Transformers [[franchise]]s, "'''[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'''" has a toyline. The ''Shattered'' line is unusual, however, in that it consists largely of [[Repurposing|reassigned toys]] from other toylines. The repurposed toys have mostly been designated by the authors of the franchise's official fiction rather than originally created by Hasbro. Only a handful of the "line's" toys were actually manufactured to be explicit ''Shattered Glass'' characters, mostly in conjunction with [[BotCon 2008]].

Quite a few additional ''Shattered'' character designs are based on existing toys/characters with new color schemes, meaning they potentially ''could'' be manufactured some day, or recreated by enterprising [[kitbashing|kitbashers]].

==Official Decepticon toys==
===2008===
[[Image:ShatteredGlasstoy-Megatron.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I am Megatron and I have come to ''teach'' you math!]]
====Micromasters====
*[[Divebomb (SG)|Divebomb]]
*[[Rampage (SG)|Rampage]]
*[[Razorclaw (SG)|Razorclaw]]
*[[Whisper (SG)|Whisper]]

====Deluxe Class====
*[[Sideswipe (SG)|Sideswipe]]

====Voyager Class====
*[[Starscream (SG)|Starscream]]

====Ultra Class====
*[[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]]

===2009===
====Deluxe Class====
*[[Heatwave]]

==Repurposed Decepticon toys==
[[Image:Timelinestoy-Astrotrain.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Arrrrrrr you be needing two a me now.]]
These toys were originally part of other toylines. Their original designation is listed in parentheses.
===Micromasters===
*[[Fasttrack (SG)|Fasttrack]] ([[Starcatcher]])
*[[Stonecruncher (SG)|Stonecruncher]] ([[Astro-Hook]])
*[[Submarauder (SG)|Submarauder]] ([[Astro-Sinker]])
*[[Tailwind (SG)|Tailwind]] ([[Astro-Line]])

===Scout Class===
*[[Gutcruncher (SG)|Gutcruncher]] ([[Signal Flare (Movie)|''Movie'' Signal Flare]])

===Deluxe Class===
*[[Demolishor (SG)|Demolishor]] ([[Demolishor (Armada)|Powerlinx Demolishor]])

===Ultra Class===
*[[Astrotrain (SG)|Astrotrain]] ([[Astrotrain (Timelines)|''Timelines'' Astrotrain]])

===Misc===
*[[Bludgeon (SG)|Bludgeon]] ([[Bludgeon (RID)|''Robots in Disguise'' Bludgeon]])
*[[Darkwind (SG)|Darkwind]] ([[Gigant Bomb|''Robot Masters'' Gigant Bomb]])
*[[Dreadwind (SG)|Dreadwind]] ([[Smokesniper|''Robot Masters'' Smokesniper]])
*[[Kickback (SG)|Kickback]] ([[Shothole]])
*[[Ravage (SG)|Ravage]] ([[Glit]])
*[[Soundwave (SG)|Soundwave]] ([[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Music_Label|''Music Label'' Soundwave "Sonic White"]])

==Official Autobot toys==
===2007===
[[Image:Optimusprimesgtoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"I'm a mother trucking P.I.M.P."]]
====Micromasters====
*[[Beta Maxx]]<ref>He might not actually be part of this Universe, but as he came with a "Shattered Glass" character, we'll list him for now.</ref>
====Voyager Class====
*[[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]] <ref>May be an example of [[repurposing]]. See [[Alpha_Trion_(SG)#Notes|his page's Notes section]] for details.</ref>

===2008===
====Deluxe Class====
*[[Blurr (SG)|Blurr]]
*[[Goldbug (SG)|Goldbug]]
*[[Grimlock (SG)|Grimlock]]
*[[Jazz (SG)|Jazz]]
*[[Nightbeat (SG)|Nightbeat]]
*[[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]]
*[[Ricochet (SG)|Ricochet]]

====Voyager Class====
*[[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]]

===2009===
====Deluxe Class====
*[[Thunderclash (SG)|Thunderclash]]
*[[Nightclash]]

==Repurposed Autobot toys==
[[Image:Movie BigDaddy toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Not Shattered Glass [[Wheeljack (SG)|Wheeljack]].]]
These toys originated in other toylines. Their original designation is listed in parentheses.

===Micromasters===
*[[Holepunch (SG)|Holepunch]] ([[Makeshift (Armada)|X-Dimension Makeshift]])
*[[Nightstick (SG)|Nightstick]] ([[Prowl (Armada)|X-Dimension Prowl]])
*[[Pinpointer (SG)|Pinpointer]] ([[Firebot (Armada)|X-Dimension Firebot]])

===Scout Class===
*[[Arcee (SG)|Arcee]] ([[Elita-One|''Movie'' Elita-One]])
*[[Beachcomber (SG)|Beachcomber]] ([[Hardtop (Movie)|''Movie'' Hardtop]])
*[[Brawn (SG)|Brawn]] ([[Strongarm (Movie)|''Movie'' Strongarm]])
*[[Crosshairs (SG)|Crosshairs]] ([[Warpath (Movie)|''Movie'' Warpath]])
*[[Huffer (SG)|Huffer]] ([[Armorhide (Movie)|''Movie'' Armorhide]])
*[[Seaspray (SG)|Seaspray]] ([[Storm Surge]])

===Deluxe Class===
*[[Big Daddy (SG)|Big Daddy]] ([[Big Daddy (Movie)|''Movie'' Big Daddy]])
*[[Mirage (SG)|Mirage]] ([[Mirage (G1)|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Mirage]])
*[[Scoop (SG)|Scoop]] ([[Grindcore (Movie)|''Movie'' Grindcore]])
*[[Wireless Automated Sales Person]] (Elite Guard [[Bumblebee (Animated)|''Animated'' Bumblebee]])

===Misc===
*[[Camshaft (SG)|Camshaft]] ([[Camshaft (G1)|''Universe'' Camshaft]])
*[[Drench (SG)|Drench]] ([[Drench (Autobot)|''Generation 2'' Autobot Drench]])
*[[Perceptor (SG)|Perceptor]] ([[Magnificus]])

==Notes==
*The fiction refers to all of the [[Mini-Con]]-mold characters as Micromasters; "[[Do Over]]" in particular.

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Convention exclusives]]
[[Category:Reassigned toys]]
[[Category:Shattered Glass| ]]
[[Category:Toys]]

Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)

2009-11-20T15:35:16Z

207.181.17.24: /* Deluxe Class */

{{Template:Nav-SG}}
[[Image:Onegenerationshattered.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Collecting this line will be expensive!]]
Like most Transformers [[franchise]]s, "'''[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'''" has a toyline. The ''Shattered'' line is unusual, however, in that it consists largely of [[Repurposing|reassigned toys]] from other toylines. The repurposed toys have mostly been designated by the authors of the franchise's official fiction rather than originally created by Hasbro. Only a handful of the "line's" toys were actually manufactured to be explicit ''Shattered Glass'' characters, mostly in conjunction with [[BotCon 2008]].

Quite a few additional ''Shattered'' character designs are based on existing toys/characters with new color schemes, meaning they potentially ''could'' be manufactured some day, or recreated by enterprising [[kitbashing|kitbashers]].

==Official Decepticon toys==
===2008===
[[Image:ShatteredGlasstoy-Megatron.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I am Megatron and I have come to ''teach'' you math!]]
====Micromasters====
*[[Divebomb (SG)|Divebomb]]
*[[Rampage (SG)|Rampage]]
*[[Razorclaw (SG)|Razorclaw]]
*[[Whisper (SG)|Whisper]]

====Deluxe Class====
*[[Sideswipe (SG)|Sideswipe]]

====Voyager Class====
*[[Starscream (SG)|Starscream]]

====Ultra Class====
*[[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]]

===2009===
====Deluxe Class====
*[[Heatwave]]

==Repurposed Decepticon toys==
[[Image:Timelinestoy-Astrotrain.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Arrrrrrr you be needing two a me now.]]
These toys were originally part of other toylines. Their original designation is listed in parentheses.
===Micromasters===
*[[Fasttrack (SG)|Fasttrack]] ([[Starcatcher]])
*[[Stonecruncher (SG)|Stonecruncher]] ([[Astro-Hook]])
*[[Submarauder (SG)|Submarauder]] ([[Astro-Sinker]])
*[[Tailwind (SG)|Tailwind]] ([[Astro-Line]])

===Scout Class===
*[[Gutcruncher (SG)|Gutcruncher]] ([[Signal Flare (Movie)|''Movie'' Signal Flare]])

===Deluxe Class===
*[[Demolishor (SG)|Demolishor]] ([[Demolishor (Armada)|Powerlinx Demolishor]])

===Ultra Class===
*[[Astrotrain (SG)|Astrotrain]] ([[Astrotrain (Timelines)|''Timelines'' Astrotrain]])

===Misc===
*[[Bludgeon (SG)|Bludgeon]] ([[Bludgeon (RID)|''Robots in Disguise'' Bludgeon]])
*[[Darkwind (SG)|Darkwind]] ([[Gigant Bomb|''Robot Masters'' Gigant Bomb]])
*[[Dreadwind (SG)|Dreadwind]] ([[Smokesniper|''Robot Masters'' Smokesniper]])
*[[Kickback (SG)|Kickback]] ([[Shothole]])
*[[Ravage (SG)|Ravage]] ([[Glit]])
*[[Soundwave (SG)|Soundwave]] ([[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Music_Label|''Music Label'' Soundwave "Sonic White"]])

==Official Autobot toys==
===2007===
[[Image:Optimusprimesgtoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"I'm a mother trucking P.I.M.P."]]
====Micromasters====
*[[Beta Maxx]]<ref>He might not actually be part of this Universe, but as he came with a "Shattered Glass" character, we'll list him for now.</ref>
====Voyager Class====
*[[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]] <ref>May be an example of [[repurposing]]. See [[Alpha_Trion_(SG)#Notes|his page's Notes section]] for details.</ref>

===2008===
====Deluxe Class====
*[[Blurr (SG)|Blurr]]
*[[Goldbug (SG)|Goldbug]]
*[[Grimlock (SG)|Grimlock]]
*[[Jazz (SG)|Jazz]]
*[[Nightbeat (SG)|Nightbeat]]
*[[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]]
*[[Ricochet (SG)|Ricochet]]

====Voyager Class====
*[[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]]

===2009===
====Deluxe Class====
*[[Thunderclash (SG)|Thunderclash]]
*[[Nightclash]]

==Repurposed Autobot toys==
[[Image:Movie BigDaddy toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Not Shattered Glass [[Wheeljack (SG)|Wheeljack]].]]
These toys originated in other toylines. Their original designation is listed in parentheses.

===Micromasters===
*[[Holepunch (SG)|Holepunch]] ([[Makeshift (Armada)|X-Dimension Makeshift]])
*[[Nightstick (SG)|Nightstick]] ([[Prowl (Armada)|X-Dimension Prowl]])
*[[Pinpointer (SG)|Pinpointer]] ([[Firebot (Armada)|X-Dimension Firebot]])

===Scout Class===
*[[Arcee (SG)|Arcee]] ([[Elita-One|''Movie'' Elita-One]])
*[[Beachcomber (SG)|Beachcomber]] ([[Hardtop (Movie)|''Movie'' Hardtop]])
*[[Brawn (SG)|Brawn]] ([[Strongarm (Movie)|''Movie'' Strongarm]])
*[[Crosshairs (SG)|Crosshairs]] ([[Warpath (Movie)|''Movie'' Warpath]])
*[[Huffer (SG)|Huffer]] ([[Armorhide (Movie)|''Movie'' Armorhide]])
*[[Seaspray (SG)|Seaspray]] ([[Storm Surge]])

===Deluxe Class===
*[[Big Daddy (SG)|Big Daddy]] ([[Big Daddy (Movie)|''Movie'' Big Daddy]])
*[[Mirage (SG)|Mirage]] ([[Mirage (G1)|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Mirage]])
*[[Scoop (SG)|Scoop]] ([[Grindcore (Movie)|''Movie'' Grindcore]])
*[[Wireless Automated Sales Person]] (Elite Guard [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]])

===Misc===
*[[Camshaft (SG)|Camshaft]] ([[Camshaft (G1)|''Universe'' Camshaft]])
*[[Drench (SG)|Drench]] ([[Drench (Autobot)|''Generation 2'' Autobot Drench]])
*[[Perceptor (SG)|Perceptor]] ([[Magnificus]])

==Notes==
*The fiction refers to all of the [[Mini-Con]]-mold characters as Micromasters; "[[Do Over]]" in particular.

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Convention exclusives]]
[[Category:Reassigned toys]]
[[Category:Shattered Glass| ]]
[[Category:Toys]]

Wireless Automated Sales Person

2009-11-20T14:34:25Z

207.181.17.24:

:''A Wireless Automated Sales Person is a sentient [[hologram]] in the "[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]" [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:WASP AroundCybertron.jpg|thumb|right|200px|]]
Need your latest product advertised, but just can't find a suitable celebrity willing to hawk it? Just call on a '''Wireless Automated Sales Person''' (or "'''WASP'''" for short <ref>[http://rid-nightviper.deviantart.com/art/Around-Cybertron-6-138747992 Around Cybertron #6 comments]</ref>), and "he'll" fill your commercial marketing needs. He frequently airs on spots during ABN's popular show ''[[Around Cybertron]]''.

==Fiction==
===Shattered Glass===
WASP advertised the amazing shiny cleaning powers of [[corrostop]] in a commercial during ''Around Cybertron''. {{storylink|Around Cybertron#Around Cybertron #6|Around Cybertron}}

==Notes==
* The hologram's appearance seems to be based on [[Bumblebee (Animated)#EliteGuard|Elite Guard Animated Bumblebee]], while his name is a take on [[Wasp|Animated Wasp]].
* The purple optics, black helmet, off-yellow coloring and the salesman angle also homages Generation 1 Swindle. The goatee and the nature of how it's promoting corrostop is also reminiscent of late commercial celebrity, Billy Mays.

==Toys==
[[Image:Ani-toy BumblebeeEG.jpg|thumb|300px|"In this universe, WASP is cool spokesbots! Universe love WASP!"]]
*'''Elite Guard Bumblebee''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' Left & right rocket boosters

: A [[redeco]] of [[#Deluxe|Deluxe Bumblebee]], this figure represents Bumblebee after getting Sari to help paint him up in [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]] deco as part of his anticipated ascension into their ranks. Dare to dream! He retains all the play-gimmicks of the original, though his arms have been slightly [[retool]]ed to allow the stingers to recede fully. The color scheme of the toy bears a little resemblance to [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Deluxe Class toys|Stealth Bumblebee]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|live-action movie]] franchise.

: The [[Hasbro]] stock photography and [[package art]] for this toy [[:Image:Deluxeeliteguardbumblebee.jpg|depict "Elite Guard" Bumblebee with his normal yellow helmet]]. However, the actual toy has a black helmet due to the plastic color layouts.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/EGBumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on Elite Guard Bumblebee at TFU.info]''

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Comic-only characters]]
[[Category:Drones]]
[[Category:Entertainers]]
[[Category:Shattered Glass characters]]

Talk:Sunstreaker (G1)

2009-11-20T00:11:22Z

207.181.17.24: /* More Than Meets The Eye bio */

Talking with Walky, it seems Sunstreaker will become our "poster boy" for how to lay out a character page thanks to his being in multiple continuities and having multiple toys WITHOUT having too much to keep track of. I've done some tweaking to organize the different sections in what I hope is a logical manner, I THINK all that remains is to fill out said sections. Thoughts on the matter are appreciated... - [[User: M Sipher]]

Boss. I love it. I've been kinda wondering how this goes together... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:07, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

== Marvel Comics Continuity ==

I'm starting to question the wisdom of incorporating both UK and US continuity bits in just the one "Marvel comics continuity" section. There are tons of stuff here that, for me (grew up on just the US stuff), simply never happened. I can't speak to whether these are verifiable or not. But in one case, the mention of Galvatron's "dream-inducing bug," just BEFORE the mention of Sunstreaker's presence during the Blaster/Grimlock fight on the moon, strikes me as out of place. Shouldn't that come AFTER this event?

:yes, it should. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:38, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

== Lost mold? ==

"There also appears to be little chance of a reissue of the toy, as this mold has been stated by Hasbro and Takara representatives to be one of several toys whose original molding has been either lost or in a state of disrepair too extensive to justify the cost of re-casting."

When was this stated?

From [http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~sstoneb/tf/tidbits/botcon2005.txt Steve-o' BotCon notes]:
"It was reiterated that the tooling for G1 Mirage and G1 Wheeljack are 'gone'. Aaron further described them as 'long-since depleted', which would indicate that they wore out and were possibly disposed of, rather than having simply disappeared like some tools seem to do."

No word on Sunstreaker.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 21:52, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

==A Fearsome Warrior?==

Never could understand why Sunstreaker was described as being such an effective warrior. What exactly could he do? His Strength was a runtish '''5'''.[[User:71.34.68.213|71.34.68.213]] 21:55, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
: Tech spec numbers rarely had anything to do with characters' portrayal elsewhere. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:31, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
::And it hasn't changed to this day. Sometimes it seems like whomever decides tech-spec numbers has a bunch of magnetic-backed cards with numbers printed on them, and he or she throws them at a whiteboard marked out with the tech spec categories. Where ever they land, that's what you see on packaging. :D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

== Where's the number? ==

Isn't there supposed to be a Japanese ID Number for this toy? Unless it wasn't released in Japan?

:Apparently he wasn't released as a single toy. I do recall he was released as part of a rather rare multi/versus-pack with Skids a Decepticon. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:27, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

::Right in his toy section, you'll find the info: "Sunstreaker's only release in Japan was in the VS-Z set, along with Buzzsaw and Skids." There you have it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:31, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

== New chest? ==

Why does the description of Universe Sunstreaker say Sideswipe will get a new chest? Judging by the design it looks like they'll just switch the hands around, make a new head and just make him transform facing the other way... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:43, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, somebody probably quickly threw that there in 2007. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

== More Than Meets The Eye bio ==

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Sunstreaker_MTMTE_bio.jpg

Just for those of us who don't, y'know, actually have the books... [[User:Knocks|Knocks]] 20:51, 6 April 2009 (EDT)

:The Wiki is not a picture gallery. If you're not going to use it in an article, then don't upload it. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 21:31, 6 April 2009 (EDT)

::Before the crash, there'd been talk about him being gay and stuff about the bio, but not everyone had seen it, so I found it and posted it in the disscusion then. Are you saying now that it's worth putting into the page itself? --[[User:Knocks|Knocks]] 21:08, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
:::What? It was never in the bio. Nobody claimed that. It was from behind the scenes information. And I'm not sure where the hell you got "it's worth putting in the page itself" from. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 21:13, 7 April 2009 (EDT)
::::I posted here before the crash, on the discussion page which '''is''' behind the scenes and no one said boo. Considering that some people thought the bio was on the squicky side after finding out that Sunstreaker was supposed to be gay which '''is''' mentioned in the main article, I thought people should be able to see it so they could judge for themselves. You're the one telling me that either it goes into an article or it just goes away.--[[User:Knocks|Knocks]] 18:43, 9 April 2009 (EDT)
:And it's gone from the Wiki... Y'all at least could tell me outright that it's being taken down. Here's the info again and let me ask, is it worth putting in the main article or no? And if not, why shouldn't it stay '''here''' at least?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/RagingCalm/Sunstreaker_MTMTE_bio.jpg --[[User:Knocks|Knocks]] 17:45, 11 April 2009 (EDT)

==Block Sunstreaker Pictures==
Here: http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemnext&item=370249654862.html [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 19:11, 19 November 2009 (EST)

Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)

2009-11-18T23:23:10Z

207.181.17.24: /* Misc */

{{Template:Nav-SG}}
[[Image:Onegenerationshattered.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Collecting this line will be expensive!]]
Like most Transformers [[franchise]]s, "'''[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'''" has a toyline. The ''Shattered'' line is unusual, however, in that it consists largely of [[Repurposing|reassigned toys]] from other toylines. The repurposed toys have mostly been designated by the authors of the franchise's official fiction rather than originally created by Hasbro. Only a handful of the "line's" toys were actually manufactured to be explicit ''Shattered Glass'' characters, mostly in conjunction with [[BotCon 2008]].

Quite a few additional ''Shattered'' character designs are based on existing toys/characters with new color schemes, meaning they potentially ''could'' be manufactured some day, or recreated by enterprising [[kitbashing|kitbashers]].

==Official Decepticon toys==
===2008===
[[Image:ShatteredGlasstoy-Megatron.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I am Megatron and I have come to ''teach'' you math!]]
====Micromasters====
*[[Divebomb (SG)|Divebomb]]
*[[Rampage (SG)|Rampage]]
*[[Razorclaw (SG)|Razorclaw]]
*[[Whisper (SG)|Whisper]]

====Deluxe Class====
*[[Sideswipe (SG)|Sideswipe]]

====Voyager Class====
*[[Starscream (SG)|Starscream]]

====Ultra Class====
*[[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]]

===2009===
====Deluxe Class====
*[[Heatwave]]

==Repurposed Decepticon toys==
[[Image:Timelinestoy-Astrotrain.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Arrrrrrr you be needing two a me now.]]
These toys were originally part of other toylines. Their original designation is listed in parentheses.
===Micromasters===
*[[Fasttrack (SG)|Fasttrack]] ([[Starcatcher]])
*[[Stonecruncher (SG)|Stonecruncher]] ([[Astro-Hook]])
*[[Submarauder (SG)|Submarauder]] ([[Astro-Sinker]])
*[[Tailwind (SG)|Tailwind]] ([[Astro-Line]])

===Scout Class===
*[[Gutcruncher (SG)|Gutcruncher]] ([[Signal Flare (Movie)|''Movie'' Signal Flare]])

===Deluxe Class===
*[[Demolishor (SG)|Demolishor]] ([[Demolishor (Armada)|Powerlinx Demolishor]])

===Ultra Class===
*[[Astrotrain (SG)|Astrotrain]] ([[Astrotrain (Timelines)|''Timelines'' Astrotrain]])

===Misc===
*[[Bludgeon (SG)|Bludgeon]] ([[Bludgeon (RID)|''Robots in Disguise'' Bludgeon]])
*[[Darkwind (SG)|Darkwind]] ([[Gigant Bomb|''Robot Masters'' Gigant Bomb]])
*[[Dreadwind (SG)|Dreadwind]] ([[Smokesniper|''Robot Masters'' Smokesniper]])
*[[Kickback (SG)|Kickback]] ([[Shothole]])
*[[Ravage (SG)|Ravage]] ([[Glit]])
*[[Soundwave (SG)|Soundwave]] ([[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Music_Label|''Music Label'' Soundwave "Sonic White"]])

==Official Autobot toys==
===2007===
[[Image:Optimusprimesgtoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"I'm a mother trucking P.I.M.P."]]
====Micromasters====
*[[Beta Maxx]]<ref>He might not actually be part of this Universe, but as he came with a "Shattered Glass" character, we'll list him for now.</ref>
====Voyager Class====
*[[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]] <ref>May be an example of [[repurposing]]. See [[Alpha_Trion_(SG)#Notes|his page's Notes section]] for details.</ref>

===2008===
====Deluxe Class====
*[[Blurr (SG)|Blurr]]
*[[Goldbug (SG)|Goldbug]]
*[[Grimlock (SG)|Grimlock]]
*[[Jazz (SG)|Jazz]]
*[[Nightbeat (SG)|Nightbeat]]
*[[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]]
*[[Ricochet (SG)|Ricochet]]

====Voyager Class====
*[[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]]

===2009===
====Deluxe Class====
*[[Thunderclash (SG)|Thunderclash]]
*[[Nightclash]]

==Repurposed Autobot toys==
[[Image:Movie BigDaddy toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Not Shattered Glass [[Wheeljack (SG)|Wheeljack]].]]
These toys originated in other toylines. Their original designation is listed in parentheses.

===Micromasters===
*[[Holepunch (SG)|Holepunch]] ([[Makeshift (Armada)|X-Dimension Makeshift]])
*[[Nightstick (SG)|Nightstick]] ([[Prowl (Armada)|X-Dimension Prowl]])
*[[Pinpointer (SG)|Pinpointer]] ([[Firebot (Armada)|X-Dimension Firebot]])

===Scout Class===
*[[Arcee (SG)|Arcee]] ([[Elita-One|''Movie'' Elita-One]])
*[[Beachcomber (SG)|Beachcomber]] ([[Hardtop (Movie)|''Movie'' Hardtop]])
*[[Brawn (SG)|Brawn]] ([[Strongarm (Movie)|''Movie'' Strongarm]])
*[[Crosshairs (SG)|Crosshairs]] ([[Warpath (Movie)|''Movie'' Warpath]])
*[[Huffer (SG)|Huffer]] ([[Armorhide (Movie)|''Movie'' Armorhide]])
*[[Seaspray (SG)|Seaspray]] ([[Storm Surge]])

===Deluxe Class===
*[[Big Daddy (SG)|Big Daddy]] ([[Big Daddy (Movie)|''Movie'' Big Daddy]])
*[[Mirage (SG)|Mirage]] ([[Mirage (G1)|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Mirage]])
*[[Scoop (SG)|Scoop]] ([[Grindcore (Movie)|''Movie'' Grindcore]])

===Misc===
*[[Camshaft (SG)|Camshaft]] ([[Camshaft (G1)|''Universe'' Camshaft]])
*[[Drench (SG)|Drench]] ([[Drench (Autobot)|''Generation 2'' Autobot Drench]])
*[[Perceptor (SG)|Perceptor]] ([[Magnificus]])

==Notes==
*The fiction refers to all of the [[Mini-Con]]-mold characters as Micromasters; "[[Do Over]]" in particular.

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Convention exclusives]]
[[Category:Reassigned toys]]
[[Category:Shattered Glass| ]]
[[Category:Toys]]

Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)

2009-11-18T23:21:53Z

207.181.17.24: /* Misc */

{{Template:Nav-SG}}
[[Image:Onegenerationshattered.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Collecting this line will be expensive!]]
Like most Transformers [[franchise]]s, "'''[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'''" has a toyline. The ''Shattered'' line is unusual, however, in that it consists largely of [[Repurposing|reassigned toys]] from other toylines. The repurposed toys have mostly been designated by the authors of the franchise's official fiction rather than originally created by Hasbro. Only a handful of the "line's" toys were actually manufactured to be explicit ''Shattered Glass'' characters, mostly in conjunction with [[BotCon 2008]].

Quite a few additional ''Shattered'' character designs are based on existing toys/characters with new color schemes, meaning they potentially ''could'' be manufactured some day, or recreated by enterprising [[kitbashing|kitbashers]].

==Official Decepticon toys==
===2008===
[[Image:ShatteredGlasstoy-Megatron.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I am Megatron and I have come to ''teach'' you math!]]
====Micromasters====
*[[Divebomb (SG)|Divebomb]]
*[[Rampage (SG)|Rampage]]
*[[Razorclaw (SG)|Razorclaw]]
*[[Whisper (SG)|Whisper]]

====Deluxe Class====
*[[Sideswipe (SG)|Sideswipe]]

====Voyager Class====
*[[Starscream (SG)|Starscream]]

====Ultra Class====
*[[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]]

===2009===
====Deluxe Class====
*[[Heatwave]]

==Repurposed Decepticon toys==
[[Image:Timelinestoy-Astrotrain.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Arrrrrrr you be needing two a me now.]]
These toys were originally part of other toylines. Their original designation is listed in parentheses.
===Micromasters===
*[[Fasttrack (SG)|Fasttrack]] ([[Starcatcher]])
*[[Stonecruncher (SG)|Stonecruncher]] ([[Astro-Hook]])
*[[Submarauder (SG)|Submarauder]] ([[Astro-Sinker]])
*[[Tailwind (SG)|Tailwind]] ([[Astro-Line]])

===Scout Class===
*[[Gutcruncher (SG)|Gutcruncher]] ([[Signal Flare (Movie)|''Movie'' Signal Flare]])

===Deluxe Class===
*[[Demolishor (SG)|Demolishor]] ([[Demolishor (Armada)|Powerlinx Demolishor]])

===Ultra Class===
*[[Astrotrain (SG)|Astrotrain]] ([[Astrotrain (Timelines)|''Timelines'' Astrotrain]])

===Misc===
*[[Bludgeon (SG)|Bludgeon]] ([[Bludgeon (RID)|''Robots in Disguise'' Bludgeon]])
*[[Darkwind (SG)|Darkwind]] ([[Gigant Bomb|''Robot Masters'' Gigant Bomb]])
*[[Dreadwind (SG)|Dreadwind]] ([[Smokesniper|''Robot Masters'' Smokesniper]])
*[[Kickback (SG)|Kickback]] ([[Shothole]])
*[[Ravage (SG)|Ravage]] ([[Glit]])
*[[Soundwave (SG)|Soundwave]] ([[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Music_Label|''Music Label'' Soundwave "Sonic White"]])

==Official Autobot toys==
===2007===
[[Image:Optimusprimesgtoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"I'm a mother trucking P.I.M.P."]]
====Micromasters====
*[[Beta Maxx]]<ref>He might not actually be part of this Universe, but as he came with a "Shattered Glass" character, we'll list him for now.</ref>
====Voyager Class====
*[[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]] <ref>May be an example of [[repurposing]]. See [[Alpha_Trion_(SG)#Notes|his page's Notes section]] for details.</ref>

===2008===
====Deluxe Class====
*[[Blurr (SG)|Blurr]]
*[[Goldbug (SG)|Goldbug]]
*[[Grimlock (SG)|Grimlock]]
*[[Jazz (SG)|Jazz]]
*[[Nightbeat (SG)|Nightbeat]]
*[[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]]
*[[Ricochet (SG)|Ricochet]]

====Voyager Class====
*[[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]]

===2009===
====Deluxe Class====
*[[Thunderclash (SG)|Thunderclash]]
*[[Nightclash]]

==Repurposed Autobot toys==
[[Image:Movie BigDaddy toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Not Shattered Glass [[Wheeljack (SG)|Wheeljack]].]]
These toys originated in other toylines. Their original designation is listed in parentheses.

===Micromasters===
*[[Holepunch (SG)|Holepunch]] ([[Makeshift (Armada)|X-Dimension Makeshift]])
*[[Nightstick (SG)|Nightstick]] ([[Prowl (Armada)|X-Dimension Prowl]])
*[[Pinpointer (SG)|Pinpointer]] ([[Firebot (Armada)|X-Dimension Firebot]])

===Scout Class===
*[[Arcee (SG)|Arcee]] ([[Elita-One|''Movie'' Elita-One]])
*[[Beachcomber (SG)|Beachcomber]] ([[Hardtop (Movie)|''Movie'' Hardtop]])
*[[Brawn (SG)|Brawn]] ([[Strongarm (Movie)|''Movie'' Strongarm]])
*[[Crosshairs (SG)|Crosshairs]] ([[Warpath (Movie)|''Movie'' Warpath]])
*[[Huffer (SG)|Huffer]] ([[Armorhide (Movie)|''Movie'' Armorhide]])
*[[Seaspray (SG)|Seaspray]] ([[Storm Surge]])

===Deluxe Class===
*[[Big Daddy (SG)|Big Daddy]] ([[Big Daddy (Movie)|''Movie'' Big Daddy]])
*[[Mirage (SG)|Mirage]] ([[Mirage (G1)|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Mirage]])
*[[Scoop (SG)|Scoop]] ([[Grindcore (Movie)|''Movie'' Grindcore]])

===Misc===
*[[Camshaft (SG)|Camshaft]] ([[Camshaft (G1)|''Universe'' Camshaft]])
*[[Drench (SG)|Drench]] ([[Drench (G2)|''Generation 2'' Drench]])
*[[Perceptor (SG)|Perceptor]] ([[Magnificus]])

==Notes==
*The fiction refers to all of the [[Mini-Con]]-mold characters as Micromasters; "[[Do Over]]" in particular.

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Convention exclusives]]
[[Category:Reassigned toys]]
[[Category:Shattered Glass| ]]
[[Category:Toys]]

Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)

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[[Image:Onegenerationshattered.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Collecting this line will be expensive!]]
Like most Transformers [[franchise]]s, "'''[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'''" has a toyline. The ''Shattered'' line is unusual, however, in that it consists largely of [[Repurposing|reassigned toys]] from other toylines. The repurposed toys have mostly been designated by the authors of the franchise's official fiction rather than originally created by Hasbro. Only a handful of the "line's" toys were actually manufactured to be explicit ''Shattered Glass'' characters, mostly in conjunction with [[BotCon 2008]].

Quite a few additional ''Shattered'' character designs are based on existing toys/characters with new color schemes, meaning they potentially ''could'' be manufactured some day, or recreated by enterprising [[kitbashing|kitbashers]].

==Official Decepticon toys==
===2008===
[[Image:ShatteredGlasstoy-Megatron.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I am Megatron and I have come to ''teach'' you math!]]
====Micromasters====
*[[Divebomb (SG)|Divebomb]]
*[[Rampage (SG)|Rampage]]
*[[Razorclaw (SG)|Razorclaw]]
*[[Whisper (SG)|Whisper]]

====Deluxe Class====
*[[Sideswipe (SG)|Sideswipe]]

====Voyager Class====
*[[Starscream (SG)|Starscream]]

====Ultra Class====
*[[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]]

===2009===
====Deluxe Class====
*[[Heatwave]]

==Repurposed Decepticon toys==
[[Image:Timelinestoy-Astrotrain.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Arrrrrrr you be needing two a me now.]]
These toys were originally part of other toylines. Their original designation is listed in parentheses.
===Micromasters===
*[[Fasttrack (SG)|Fasttrack]] ([[Starcatcher]])
*[[Stonecruncher (SG)|Stonecruncher]] ([[Astro-Hook]])
*[[Submarauder (SG)|Submarauder]] ([[Astro-Sinker]])
*[[Tailwind (SG)|Tailwind]] ([[Astro-Line]])

===Scout Class===
*[[Gutcruncher (SG)|Gutcruncher]] ([[Signal Flare (Movie)|''Movie'' Signal Flare]])

===Deluxe Class===
*[[Demolishor (SG)|Demolishor]] ([[Demolishor (Armada)|Powerlinx Demolishor]])

===Ultra Class===
*[[Astrotrain (SG)|Astrotrain]] ([[Astrotrain (Timelines)|''Timelines'' Astrotrain]])

===Misc===
*[[Bludgeon (SG)|Bludgeon]] ([[Bludgeon (RID)|''Robots in Disguise'' Bludgeon]])
*[[Darkwind (SG)|Darkwind]] ([[Gigant Bomb|''Robot Masters'' Gigant Bomb]])
*[[Dreadwind (SG)|Dreadwind]] ([[Smokesniper|''Robot Masters'' Smokesniper]])
*[[Kickback (SG)|Kickback]] ([[Shothole]])
*[[Ravage (SG)|Ravage]] ([[Glit]])
*[[Soundwave (SG)|Soundwave]] ([[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Music_Label|''Music Label'' Soundwave "Sonic White"]])

==Official Autobot toys==
===2007===
[[Image:Optimusprimesgtoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"I'm a mother trucking P.I.M.P."]]
====Micromasters====
*[[Beta Maxx]]<ref>He might not actually be part of this Universe, but as he came with a "Shattered Glass" character, we'll list him for now.</ref>
====Voyager Class====
*[[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]] <ref>May be an example of [[repurposing]]. See [[Alpha_Trion_(SG)#Notes|his page's Notes section]] for details.</ref>

===2008===
====Deluxe Class====
*[[Blurr (SG)|Blurr]]
*[[Goldbug (SG)|Goldbug]]
*[[Grimlock (SG)|Grimlock]]
*[[Jazz (SG)|Jazz]]
*[[Nightbeat (SG)|Nightbeat]]
*[[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]]
*[[Ricochet (SG)|Ricochet]]

====Voyager Class====
*[[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]]

===2009===
====Deluxe Class====
*[[Thunderclash (SG)|Thunderclash]]
*[[Nightclash]]

==Repurposed Autobot toys==
[[Image:Movie BigDaddy toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Not Shattered Glass [[Wheeljack (SG)|Wheeljack]].]]
These toys originated in other toylines. Their original designation is listed in parentheses.

===Micromasters===
*[[Holepunch (SG)|Holepunch]] ([[Makeshift (Armada)|X-Dimension Makeshift]])
*[[Nightstick (SG)|Nightstick]] ([[Prowl (Armada)|X-Dimension Prowl]])
*[[Pinpointer (SG)|Pinpointer]] ([[Firebot (Armada)|X-Dimension Firebot]])

===Scout Class===
*[[Arcee (SG)|Arcee]] ([[Elita-One|''Movie'' Elita-One]])
*[[Beachcomber (SG)|Beachcomber]] ([[Hardtop (Movie)|''Movie'' Hardtop]])
*[[Brawn (SG)|Brawn]] ([[Strongarm (Movie)|''Movie'' Strongarm]])
*[[Crosshairs (SG)|Crosshairs]] ([[Warpath (Movie)|''Movie'' Warpath]])
*[[Huffer (SG)|Huffer]] ([[Armorhide (Movie)|''Movie'' Armorhide]])
*[[Seaspray (SG)|Seaspray]] ([[Storm Surge]])

===Deluxe Class===
*[[Big Daddy (SG)|Big Daddy]] ([[Big Daddy (Movie)|''Movie'' Big Daddy]])
*[[Mirage (SG)|Mirage]] ([[Mirage (G1)|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Mirage]])
*[[Scoop (SG)|Scoop]] ([[Grindcore (Movie)|''Movie'' Grindcore]])

===Misc===
*[[Camshaft (SG)|Camshaft]] ([[Camshaft (G1)|''Universe'' Camshaft]])
*[[Drench (SG)|Drench]] ([[Drencg (G2)|''Generation 2'' Drench]])
*[[Perceptor (SG)|Perceptor]] ([[Magnificus]])

==Notes==
*The fiction refers to all of the [[Mini-Con]]-mold characters as Micromasters; "[[Do Over]]" in particular.

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Convention exclusives]]
[[Category:Reassigned toys]]
[[Category:Shattered Glass| ]]
[[Category:Toys]]

Skywarp (G1)

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:''Skywarp is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Skywarp1.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Skywarp, Decepticon Stair-Pusher-Downer]]
[[Teleportation]] is a dangerous tool in the hands of a capable adversary. Thankfully for the [[Autobot|Autobots]], '''Skywarp''' is the Decepticon who possesses that ability. Skywarp's not so bright, so without supervision he's worthless as a warrior. He mostly uses his teleportation power for immature pranks on both friend and foe. He takes a charmingly puerile angle at thuggery, so his pranks are well-received amongst his Decepticon peers (excepting the victim, of course).

Because, come on, a surprise push down a staircase is ''hilarious''.

{{quote|Don't think. Just do.|Skywarp's life motto|"[[Megatron Origin issue 4]]"}}

:''French-Canadian name'': '''Fraudeur''' ("Cheater" or "Evader" or "Smuggler")
:''Hungarian name'': '''Égretörő''' ("Sky-springer")
:''Italian name'': '''Corvo''' ("Crow")
:''Portuguese name (Portugal comics)'': '''Espião Celeste'''
:''Portuguese name (Brazil comics)'': '''Viajante'''
:''Chinese name (Taiwan):'' '''Tīen Wān''' (天彎, "Sky Warp")
:''Chinese name (China):'' '''Nao Fan Tian''' (鬧翻天, "Extreme Ruckus")
:''Russian TV dub name:'' '''Deformer'''

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
{{noteukonly}}
[[Image:Introdump decepticons marvelus01.jpg|left|300px|thumb|You can tell Skywarp apart from Thundercracker in the Marvel Comics by, uh.... let us get back to you on that.]]
Skywarp was one of [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron's]] troops who attacked the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] during its mission to clear a path for [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] through an asteroid field. He was deactivated when it crashed on [[Earth]], and he lay dormant for four million years. When he and his fellow Decepticons awoke, Skywarp was given a new [[Alternate mode|altmode]], that of an Earth jet. {{storylink|The Transformers (issue)|The Transformers}} He aided the Decepticons in their building of their new base constructed of parts from [[Harrison Nuclear Power Plant]] and joined in their attack on [[Sparkplug Witwicky]]'s auto repair shop. After the successful abduction of Sparkplug Witwicky, Skywarp, [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] defended their base from [[Autobot|Autobots]], though [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] and [[Spider-Man]] were able to sneak through and rescue Sparkplug. {{storylink|Prisoner of War!}}

''When Starscream fired upon his teammate [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] for eavesdropping on his plot to overthrow Megatron, Skywarp and the other Decepticons sought deadly revenge on the Decepticon [[Air Commander]]. {{storylink|The Enemy Within!}} Though Starscream escaped, the Decepticons soon regrouped to attack the Ark, but their battle was ended prematurely when [[Auntie]], the Ark's computer system, magnetized the walls, immobilizing both factions. {{storylink|Raiders of the Last Ark}} On another occasion, he and Thundercracker made a strafing run on two Autobot spies, [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]. Jazz was deafened and blasted off the road, but Sunstreaker led them into a human military zone, prompting Megatron to call them back to base. {{storylink|Perchance to Dream}} Skywarp also traveled with the Decepticons to the [[United Kingdom]], where he and his teammates attempted to learn about a mysterious Autobot rescue ship buried under a castle. An initial attack on the Autobots left Skywarp seriously wounded by a bomb from [[Bluestreak]]. {{storylink|Man of Iron!}}''

Though Sparkplug Witwicky was able to devise a way for the Decepticons to convert Earth fuel into a usable substance, he also poisoned the result, so Skywarp and his fellow Decepticons were immobilized at the climax of their would-be final battle with the Autobots. {{storylink|The Last Stand}} The Decepticon [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] took command of the Decepticons and the Ark shortly thereafter and nursed Skywarp and his comrades back to full health. Skywarp may have helped Shockwave attempt to capture and brainwash [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] into a Decepticon, or it may have been Thundercracker without red stripes. It's hard to tell. {{storylink|Plight of the Bumblebee!}}

[[Image:Skywarpgoofyteleportation.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Upon close inspection, Skywarp's teleportation power is merely a goofy loop-de-loop.]]
He served the Decepticon cause up until he was deactivated while battling [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and placed in prison stasis at Autobot headquarters. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}

''When [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] traveled back from the year 2006 to build a super-weapon to destroy [[Unicron]], Skywarp was a key player in the defeat of the mad Decepticon. Sorta.''

''The Autobots took Skywarp out of stasis, painted him to look like [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and sent him stumbling toward Galvatron with a tape-recorder of Starscream's voice on his back. Galvatron, still sore about Starscream tossing him out of [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] during his Megatron days, shot and presumably killed Skywarp. Galvatron then realized that if he killed Starscream in the past then there'd be no way he could have killed Starscream in the future (never mind that killing Skywarp now opens up that whole issue of [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus' identity]]). Believing he was in an alternate past and thus nothing he did there would affect his personal timeline, Galvatron hurried back to his proper time. Way to take one for the team, Skywarp. {{storylink|Target: 2006}}''

During a massive battle between the Autobots and Decepticons on Earth's moon, Skywarp and the other Decepticons held in stasis aboard the Ark were liberated by the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] and subsequently brought back online. {{storylink|Totaled!}} During the first Decepticon Civil War, Skywarp battled with [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]'s Decepticons against [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s Decepticons. Skywarp surprised [[Bugly]] with his teleportation powers and blasted him, temporarily stunning him. However, Bugly successfully returned fire, striking where he guessed Skywarp would next teleport. {{storylink|Cold War!}} Skywarp was repaired in time to face an [[Underbase]]-powered Starscream in [[Tokyo]], but both he and Thundercracker were destroyed by their former flying partner. {{storylink|Dark Star (issue)|Dark Star}}

====''Generation 2''====
The Autobots and the Decepticons had just agreed to make an alliance against the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]], but the Decepticons disagreed about aiding other planets' people. When the Autobots went alone to fight the Cybertronians, they almost were defeated, until Skywarp (yes, this article is about him) suddenly appeared, followed by the rest of the Decepticon army, to aid the Autobots.

And you just know he mocked the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] he saved. ''Relentlessly.'' {{storylink|Escalation!}}

====''Classics''====
{{note|Classics is a [[splinter timeline]] from the Marvel US continuity that does not include events from either ''Generation 2'' or the Marvel UK issues.}}
His broken body rescued from [[Tokyo]], Skywarp was rebuilt using Shockwave's upgraded [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] schematics. He was told that it was Starscream, driven mad with the power of the [[Underbase]], who did him in. Skywarp's okay with that. After all, the traitor's going to have to let down his guard sometime. {{fact}}

After the appearance of the mysterious crossdimensional Decepticon [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]], Skywarp and the other rebuilt Decepticons under Megatron's command traveled to [[South America]] to investigate an equally mysterious power source that seemed to share traits with Landquake. En route, they were attacked by [[Walter Barnett]]'s [[RUNT]] squad. {{storylink|Crossing Over, Part 2}} Skywarp managed to shake off these interlopers just before Optimus Prime and his Autobots arrived in search of this same power source, and a new battle between the factions began in the jungles surrounding the power source. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 3}} As the battle escalated, Skywarp and Starscream fought [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] across the skies, {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 5}} but ultimately, Megatron was forced to call for a withdrawal. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 6}}

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===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]] (English), [[Masashi Ebara]] (Japanese)

[[Image:Tetrajet seekers.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Cybertron alt-mode (left). The early Decepticons promoted geometry.]]
In the early days of the Decepticon rebellion, Skywarp and [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] both faced the powerful protectors of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron's]] cities, the [[Guardian Robots]]. Even millions of years later, the powerful Guardians struck fear into Skywarp's spark. {{storylink|War Dawn}}

Skywarp was one of the elite Decepticons that served [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] on Cybertron four million years ago. Skywarp and his fellow Seekers came across the Autobots [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] pilfering [[conductor|energy conductors]], and tried to eliminate the Auto-jerks. Once Wheeljack broke through their defenses, Skywarp and Thundercracker transformed to their tetrajet modes and followed the Autobots. They managed to get a good shot in against Bumblebee, but soon both Autobots escaped termination by taking the chase underground. Skywarp later joined Megatron in attacking and boarding the [[Ark (G1)|Autobot ship]] on their search for energy. After crash-landing on Earth, the Decepticons and Autobots laid dormant for four million years, until volcanic activity stirred the ship's computer back to life. Skywarp was the first of the ship's Transformers to be reformatted and awakened by [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]], in the form of an Earthen F-15 fighter jet. Once active, Skywarp immediately dragged his master Megatron's body into the reformatting rays of the Ark's computer, and soon all the Decepticons were revived. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}

Since the Decepticons were so badly short-staffed during their early days on Earth, Skywarp was usually involved in whatever crazy plot for universal domination Megatron was hatching. This included attacks on an off-shore oil rig, [[Sherman Dam]] and the [[Ruby Crystal Mines of Burma|ruby crystal mines of Burma]]. On the last raid, Skywarp and Thundercracker caught a pair of snoops -- Bumblebee and the human, [[Sparkplug Witwicky]]. They were knocking the little Autobot around for fun, and pondering how to giftwrap him for Megatron, when an explosion caused the mine to cave in around them. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 2}} When the Decepticons escaped the Burma operation with a cache of energon cubes, Skywarp requested permission from Megatron to teleport in order to scare off Autobot pursuers. Teleporting behind the strangely airborne duo of [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] and [[Bluestreak]], Skywarp pasted the ornery old Autobot with a heat-seeking missile, knocking him out of the sky that he probably shouldn't have been able to fly around in anyway. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 3}}

[[Image:TransporttoOblivion Skywarp Prowl punchy.jpg|left|180px|thumb|"[[Bumblebee (G1)|Punch-buggy yellow]]!"]]
When [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] was caught spying on the Decepticons' new [[Space Bridge]], Skywarp and Starscream captured him for Megatron. After Bumblebee was reprogrammed to led the Autobots into a trap, Skywarp biffed [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] from behind, causing him to fall down in an almost pushing-down-stairs-like fashion. {{storylink|Transport to Oblivion}} After the Decepticons acquired the [[antimatter]] formula, they were en route to the Ark when [[Sunstreaker]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] intercepted them, practicing their jet judo maneuvers. Skywarp was being thrown off-course by Sideswipe's antics until Starscream knocked the Autobot warrior loose. During the battle, Megatron charged himself up with the Decepticons' new toy, and transformed into an "anti-matter gun" to obliterate the Autobots. After Starscream had his turn with the gun, Skywarp got ready to blow some Autobots away too. Before he could start, however, [[Spike Witwicky]] attacked his leg with a jackhammer. He scooped up the puny fleshling and was about to blast him with the anti-matter gun (and, incidentally, probably blow his own hand off in the process) when [[Chip Chase]] attached a computer override device invented by [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], which allowed Teletraan I to take brief control of his body. Skywarp started firing Megatron's anti-matter power at the other Decepticons, overheating the unstable power supply and forcing the Decepticons to retreat. {{storylink|Roll for It}}

{{bigquote|You little fool... You're no match for Skywarp!|Skywarp announces his superiority to a teenage fleshling and a kid in a wheelchair.|"[[Roll for It]]"}}

Skywarp was later part of a Decepticon raid on a factory, apparently in a very playful mood with his teleporting power. First he 'ported behind some human guards to taunt them before making them scatter with laser fire. Then, when Thundercracker blased open some power lines to begin filling his energon cubes, Skywarp "cut in line" by teleporting between Thundercracker and the energy to fill his own cube first. When [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] showed up to stop them, Skywarp fired a heat-seeking missile at him, only for Prime to deflect it with a punch. The Autobot was eventually defeated, and Skywarp ran off with some [[energon cube]]s. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer}}

When the Decepticons began draining heat energy out of Earth's core using a crystal shaft in the Arctic, Skywarp got a bit bored at the lack of real action. He was in the middle of taunting Rumble when the two of them accidentally caused a miniature avalanche in one of the caves. By sheer happenstance, this led to the Decepticons recovering the long-lost [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]] from an icy tomb. Skywarp helped perform repairs on the giant flier, though it was probably better for all concerned if somebody with actual knowledge had performed these repairs. {{storylink|Fire in the Sky}}

During a battle at [[Great Falls]] hydroelectric power facility, the newly-constructed [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] arrived to rescue the beleagured Autobots, who had been captured by the Decepticons. Skywarp foolishly attempted to beat the flamethrowing [[Slag (G1)|Slag]] with a mere pair of heat-seeking missiles, and ended up being grabbed out of the air by the mighty jaws of [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], who chomped on his wing and threw Skywarp into his fellow Megatron loyalist [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]. {{storylink|S.O.S. Dinobots}} Soon afterwards, during an operation in [[Peru]], Skywarp got to be Megatron's favorite Seeker for the day after Starscream and Thundercracker stole poor-quality steel for their latest super-weapon. He had fun taunting the egotistic 'Screamer when Megatron called him to battle, leaving the other Seekers behind on mere guard duty. {{storylink|Fire on the Mountain}} Later, Skywarp helped Megatron steal a giant meteor, although its unstable power proved too dangerous to use for energon cubes. {{storylink|War of the Dinobots}}

Skywarp was in a playful mood during the Decepticons' raid of a solar power plant in [[India]], cracking wise and hoping to play a game of catch...with the rajah as the ball. He had even more fun in a quick free-for-all with the Autobots, a distraction so that the Decepticons could kidnap one of the Autobots' fleshling friends as a guinea pig for [[Doctor Arkeville]]'s mind-control experiments. Skywarp enjoyed himself so much, he got in a fight with Starscream on the way back to headquarters about how ''brilliant'' Megatron's plan was. Thundercracker had to jump out of the way while the two of them roughhoused in the elevator. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 1}} Thanks in part to Arkeville's [[hypno-chip]] slaves, the Decepticons were able to bring Cybertron into Earth's orbit, creating massive environmental disturbances that produced millions of energon cubes. What's more, transporting energon to Cybertron was now just a short flight away. Unfortunately, the devastation was greater than Megatron had anticipated. While Skywarp was on a return flight from Cybertron, a tidal wave broke off the access tower to the Decepticons' undersea base, flooding it. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 2}} Skywarp was present at the final battle before the Autobots knocked Cybertron out of orbit, and fled when Megatron abandoned his troops to escape with the energon cubes. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 3}} With Megatron seemingly destroyed as his star cruiser exploded with the cubes on-board, the Decepticons were left rudderless. While working on repairs for their undersea base, tempers flared as Skywarp picked a fight with his favorite target, Rumble, and his pint-sized partner, [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]]. Skywarp bit off more than he could chew, however, as Frenzy's surprising strength overcame Skywarp as he tried to crush the mini-cassette beneath his heel. Thundercracker and Soundwave started to get involved in the fracas too, but Megatron soon arrived to put his house back in order. {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (episode)|Countdown to Extinction}}

[[Image:Changegearsskywarp.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Remarkably scale accurate for the Masterpiece Skywarp toy]]Like all Decepticons, Skywarp provided his [[power chip rectifier]] to Megatron for his single combat with Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Heavy Metal War}} When the Decepticons attacked another rocket base, Skywarp and Thundercracker attempted to double-team Optimus Prime, but only succeeded in destroying the very rockets they came to plunder. {{storylink|Autobot Spike}} Later, the Decepticons attacked a mining camp to lure the Autobots out into the open, and Skywarp stood guard over the humans being used as bait. After they used the opportunity to kidnap [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] for his special circuit board, Skywarp later helped fill the energon cubes from Megatron's [[Solar Needle]]. {{storylink|Changing Gears}} As the Decepticons took over New York to create the city of New Cybertron, Skywarp was seen loading cars into [[Mixmaster (G1)|Mixmaster]]'s drum for reconstruction. He and Thundercracker were later damaged after trying to take some potshots at Optimus Prime, only to miss and crash straight through a building in the process. {{storylink|City of Steel}} He also served in a later assault on the Ark, distracting the Autobots long enough for Megatron to sneak inside and mess with their [[recharging chamber]]s. {{storylink|Attack of the Autobots}}

Rather stoic in recent weeks, Skywarp was back to his cheery but malicious self when he and Starscream went after some [[electro-cell]]s at the [[Experimental Energy Research Laboratory]]. While breaking through the roof of the installation, Skywarp merrily remarked on the joy of opening presents. During a fight with the Autobot named [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]], one of Skywarp's insignia was ripped off, and later planted to help turn the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]]s against the Decepticons. {{storylink|Traitor}} During a battle with the Autobots over the [[immobilizer]], Skywarp unleashed his new toy: a [[bouncer bomb]]. This weapon ricocheted through the trees, explosively bouncing from one side of the battlefield to another. Unfortunately, the Decepticons were also subject to its "friendly fire" until Megatron shot the blasted thing down. {{storylink|The Immobilizer}}

Skywarp's teleportation power did come in useful when he was needed to sneak up on the Autobots with the [[Transfixatron]]. One quick zap and they were all frozen in vehicle mode. However, he failed to zap ALL the Autobots, which ultimately led to the undoing of Megatron's scheme. {{storylink|The Autobot Run}} Skywarp was present during the Decepticon alliance with [[Sub-Atlantica]], and was part of their attack on Washington D.C. He and Thundercracker strafed the Autobots while in battle on the Great Lawn. {{storylink|Atlantis, Arise!}} When the Decepticons stole the ninja robot [[Nightbird]], Skywarp used his grapples to pull the roof off of the demonstration ampitheater, allowing Starscream and Thundercracker to swoop in and grab the robot. {{storylink|Enter the Nightbird}}

Skywarp and his flying buddies once attempted to triple-team Optimus Prime in battle, but failed to do more than provide Optimus with a chance to toss a good quip. Strangely, Skywarp was later seen throwing what looking like a standard pineapple grenade at the Autobots. It was effective enough, but looked as out of place as an AK or a tommygun in Transformer hands. {{storylink|A Prime Problem}} When the Decepticons made yet another attempt at harnessing some sort of power from the Earth's core, Skywarp defended their drilling operation from the Autobots. He and the Seekers attempted to bomb the Autobots from the air, but a scattering of explosive missiles from [[Bluestreak]]'s shoulder launchers took them out of the fight. {{storylink|The Core}}

During the assault on Iron Mountain, Skywarp was briefly taken over by [[Bombshell]]'s [[cerebro-shell]]s during a tiff between Megatron and the Insecticons. {{storylink|The Insecticon Syndrome}} He also joined the Decepticon expedition to [[Dinobot Island]], to loot and plunder its various sources of energy. Skywarp was eager to do battle with the Dinobots when they arrived to defend their new home...which just goes to show Skywarp's kinda stupid. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 1}} When the Autobots eventually arrived to help drive the Decepticons off of Dinobot Island, they were aided by a band of dinosaurs themselves, prodded onwards by [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]. Skywarp and Thundercracker found their lasers ineffective against the charging brutes, and were forced to retreat with the rest of their army. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 2}}

During some aerial dogfighting with the Autobot ace, [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]], Skywarp took a nasty hit to the wing. He must have managed to limp back to base, because he was present for Megatron's interrogation of the Constructicons a short while later. {{storylink|The Master Builders}} When the Decepticons went after [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s latest super-weapon, the [[Negavator]], Skywarp and the Seekers strafed the Autobot convoy in a box canyon. Their efforts were blocked by [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]]'s disruptor beams and magnetic smoke, which left the Seekers unable to see or navigate in any way. Skywarp and [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] ended up in a three-way collision with each other and a canyon wall. {{storylink|Auto Berserk}} Once, the Decepticons were pre-emptively celebrating the destruction of the Autobots after Megatron acquired the [[Heart of Cybertron]]. They got over-energized on energon cubes and passed out in the desert. Five'll get you ten, whoever passed out closest to Skywarp woke up with a [[Scraplet]] drawn on their face in permanent marker. {{storylink|Microbots}}

Skywarp was a participant in the ultimate prank against the Autobots. Using Autobot costumes left over from last Halloween, Skywarp and some others raided an oil refinery for fuel, only to be driven off when the "heroic" Decepticons arrived to stop the "evil" Autobots. The entire scene was filmed by [[Shawn Berger]] and used to smear the Autobots' good name so severely that they were forced to abandon Earth entirely in a rocket cruiser. Ha HA! {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1}} The fleshlings didn't appreciate the joke when they found out the punchline, but Skywarp and the Decepticons were too busy enslaving [[Central City]] to care. As bad luck would have it, though, the Autobots managed to make their way back to Earth, and drive off the Decepticon occupation. Killjoys. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2}}

When the Decepticons set up a temporary base of operations at the airport, Optimus Prime sent in the Dinobots to clear them out. Skywarp and the other jets were caught off-guard initially, but the Decepticons had learned from previous encounters that the Dinobots were more vulnerable in their robot modes. By feigning defeat, Skywarp and the others lured the Dinobots into a false sense of security, and they transformed back to robot mode. Skywarp and Megatron then unleashed a barrage of energy, igniting the jumbo jets on the tarmac and causing the Dinobots tremendous damage. The Decepticons finally scored a decent victory against the Dinos, and they owed it all to a dirty underhanded sneak attack. It was a good day to be Skywarp. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1}}

Like most of the Decepticons, Skywarp was rendered temporarily invulnerable due to exposure to [[electrum]]. Invincibility didn't make him any better a prison guard, though, as even [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] was able to overpower him and escape from the Decepticons' undersea headquarters. {{storylink|The Golden Lagoon}} Skywarp was seen delivering the Insecticons' share of the energon harvested from their clones using Megatron's energon transference process. Since the meager three cubes the Insecticons got were a small pittance compared to how many were actually being generated, Skywarp was surely snickering to himself as he handed them over. {{storylink|Quest for Survival}} When the Space Bridge materialized in the middle of a baseball stadium, Skywarp and Soundwave got into a friendly game of catch...with flesh-creatures as the ball. Then the Autobots had to show up and ruin their fun. {{storylink|Child's Play}}

Later on, Skywarp and the Seekers kidnapped a group of Earth's world leaders, but ran into the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbot]]s during their getaway. Skywarp nearly nailed [[Slingshot]] with a loop-the-loop, coming down on him from above, but was shot down by [[Skydive (G1)|Skydive]]. {{storylink|War Dawn}} One day, Skywarp and Thundercracker were guarding the Space Bridge when Starscream arrived. After showing them his authorization (which looked suspiciously like a null ray rifle), they allowed Starscream to travel to Cybertron. {{storylink|Starscream's Brigade}} At Megatron's command, Skywarp travelled to [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]] headquarters to check up on their progress in the latest Decepticon scheme. At Megatron's command, Skywarp landed at the empty base. At Megatron's command, he began to follow the mysterious trail of loose Combaticon parts leading out of the canyon. You gotta wonder what Skywarp is capable of without constant supervision...{{storylink|B.O.T. (episode)|B.O.T.}}

In 2005, Skywarp was part of a massive [[Battle of Autobot City|Decepticon attack]] on [[Autobot City]] on Earth. He was badly damaged during the battle, but managed to escape with the rest of his comrades aboard [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]. However, en route to Cybertron he was tossed out into space with other badly damaged Decepticons so that the rest would be able to make it home. Skywarp's body was gathered by [[Unicron]] and, among others, used to make [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]'s new warriors. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}

{{note|Skywarp arguably became either [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] or [[Cyclonus's Armada]], the identical warrior who was never seen again. Either way, Skywarp effectively ceased existing.}}

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{{note|The events of the Generation 1 cartoon occur in Japanese continuity as described above. The Japanese continuity then proceeds to insert several additional stories into the timeline, as follows.}}

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===3H comics===
[[Image:Wreckersskywarpcyclonus.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Looks like Cyclonus was Bombshell. Neener neener.]]
After the Decepticons lost the Great War and [[Maximal|Maximals]] and [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]] claimed [[Cybertron (planet)|the planet]], [[Megatron (BW)|another Megatron]] subjugated nearly every Transformer alive with a transformation-lock virus and an army of [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicons]]. Skywarp was one of the handful of Transformers who had slipped through Megatron's fingers, and eventually he and [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] joined up with the legendary strike team, the [[Wrecker|Wreckers]]. Given a mission by the [[Vector Sigma|Oracle]], the Wreckers fought through an army of Vehicons to steal an Autobot shuttle in order to get off-planet. {{storylink|Departure}}

{{note|Though no reason is stated in-story as to how or why or when Skywarp got this new body between the Great War and the [[Beast Era]], ''Wreckers'' plotter [[Glen Hallit]] noted that Skywarp's body was based on a mass-production body type of its day, similar to Generation 1's [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]].}}

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{{storylink|Betrayal}} {{storylink|Disclosure}} {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

Under undisclosed circumstances, Skywarp betrayed his fellow Wreckers and joined [[Razorclaw (Universe)|Razorclaw]]'s [[Minions of Unicron]] during the [[Universe war|Universe conflict]]. During the final battle within the [[Pit]], he was defeated by [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] and [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]. {{storylink|Revelations Part 2}}

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
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Skywarp was one of Megatron's earliest recruits for the Decepticons, gathered to his inner circle after word spread about treachery in the [[Council of Elders]]. He served under the primary Decepticon faction for millennia, under Megatron and for a time under Shockwave in the Dark Ages. His teleporting power enabled him to get the best of [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] during [[The Fallen]]'s ceremony at the [[Well of All Sparks]]. {{storylink|War Within: The Dark Ages|The War Within: The Dark Ages}}

Skywarp was one of several Decepticon invaders on board the Ark when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while the Autobot ship was clearing an asteroid in the path of Cybertron.

In 2002, he was one of the Transformers who survived the disastrous launch of the sabotaged ''[[Ark II]]'', and was later captured and reprogrammed by arms dealer [[Lazarus|Adam "Lazarus" Rook]], who intended to rent out the services of the enslaved robots to various terrorist groups. After Megatron reactivated himself, he freed his Decepticon subordinates in order to put forward his plans to infect Earth with a metallic virus of doom. To pass the time while this happened, Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp busied themselves by tearing apart the Autobot Minicar team. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 3}}

Skywarp later participated in Megatron's attack on [[San Francisco]], where he followed Starscream's orders to maintain formation and drop cluster bombs on the Autobot giant [[Superion (G1)|Superion]], forcing the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] to split into their separate robot forms. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 4}}

Skywarp presumably stood watch over the defeated Autobots while Megatron tried to persuade [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] to help the Decepticons conquer Earth. After some human firefighters distracted the Decepticons long enough for Optimus Prime to free the Autobots, Skywarp was presumably beaten up and escaped when Superion sacrificed himself to stop a nuclear missile launched by rogue US General [[Robert Hallo]].

''When Megatron was kidnapped by the [[Keeper (species)|Keepers]], and Decepticon leadership was up for grabs, Skywarp began acting more serious and ambitious than his regular "lunatic prankster" persona would suggest. One of the few Decepticons who aggressively refused to follow Starscream in Megatron's absence, Skywarp teamed up with the [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] trio in an attempt to seize power for himself. He lured Starscream into leaving his new kingdom in [[Las Vegas]] and travelling to Hoover Dam. Once there, Skywarp challenged Starscream directly for leadership of the Decepticons. He failed miserably, however—Starscream dealt Skywarp severe damage using his [[Null-ray|null bolts]] at close range, then tossed his former wingman over the falls. Skywarp was in [[stasis lock]] for some time thereafter, and begrudgingly chose to serve under Starscream after his repair cycle aboard the ''Nemesis'' was completed. {{storylink|Hardwired}}''

''When [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] and his private army of humans attacked Las Vegas, along with [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], Skywarp was among the Decepticons who charged out to meet them in battle along the Strip. As Thundercracker and Soundwave kept the rampaging [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]'s attention, Skywarp prepared a delicious, under-handed sneak attack. Diving at Grimlock at full speed, Skywarp planned on unleashing his heat-seeking missiles at near point-blank range for maximum devastation. Luckily for Grimlock, the little Autobot Bumblebee was willing to sacrifice his functionality in order to keep the more powerful Autobot warrior in play, and took the full impact of the missiles at the last second. Enraged, Grimlock struck Skywarp with enough force to send him flying miles away into the desert, and out of the fight for the immediate future. ''

''Curiously, Skywarp chose NOT to leave Las Vegas with Megatron once the former Decepticon leader returned to Earth. Damaged after his time with the Keepers, Megatron lost a fight with Starscream and was forced to relinquish his leadership to the Aerospace Commander. Still, Megatron refused to serve under Starscream, and led a revolt of several Decepticons into exile. For whatever reason, Skywarp remained at Starscream's side until the Keepers attacked, possessing Starscream as a host body and caging the rest of the Decepticons still in Las Vegas inside a dome of impenetrable energy. Skywarp assumed command of the remaining Decepticons in Starscream's absence, and directed the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] into not attacking the dome directly as [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], but digging beneath the energy field to forge a tunnel they could exit through. He also made contact with Megatron's forces outside the city, and agreed to wait patiently until the time was right for all the Transformers to assault the Keepers as one. ''

''When the time came, Skywarp "allowed" his Decepticons to join forces with Megatron's, because it was the only "logical" thing to do. During the fight, he blasted the [[Bluestreak]]-Keeper with an explosive gamma radiation blast. The attack was effective, but proved moot when the Bluestreak-Keeper fused with the Starscream-Keeper, creating one massive and deformed robotic god figure. In the end, it was Optimus Prime and the power of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] which finally ended the war with the Keepers, diverting the force of a nuclear missile launched by the American government. In the aftermath, Starscream's scrap was salvaged and rebuilt, but Megatron chose to make Skywarp his new second-in-command for a time, mostly just to piss Starscream off. Still, Skywarp certainly saw it as the most "logical" thing to do. {{storylink|Annihilation}}''

''In Washington D.C., Megatron and the Decepticons stormed the White House to show their displeasure to the [[President of the United States|President]] for trying to wipe them out with a nuclear strike. Megatron assigned Skywarp to deal with the SWAT teams in the streets, then sent him into the skies to join Starscream in shooting down the air support called in by the military. Final tally—Starscream: 12, Skywarp: 5. Sometime later, Skywarp was present in the Nevada desert when the Autobots and Decepticons confronted the United States military. Thanks to their airborne tactics, Thundercracker and Skywarp did significant injury to the troops and survived the [[deconstructionite]] assault virtually unscathed. After the Keepers were finally defeated and Starscream had been restored to his normal irascible self, Megatron chose to restore the status quo and replaced Skywarp with Starscream as his second-in-command yet again. {{storylink|Fusion (novel)|Fusion}}''

{{note|Although it's hard to see how, the author(s) of the Keepers Trilogy may have confused Skywarp with Shockwave, or at least combined their roles and personalities into one character. Throughout the trilogy, Skywarp made repeated references to the "logical" course of action, and once made an oblique reference to his gift over the electromagnetic spectrum. Whether there was actual confusion involved, or if the pick-up writer [[David Cian]] was forcing Skywarp to fit a role once Dreamwave's comics made using Shockwave off-limits, is unknown.}}

When Shockwave arrived on Earth with his new army, he quickly disposed of Megatron and demanded loyalty from Skywarp and the others. Somewhat begrudgingly, they assented and accompanied him back to Cybertron. Back on their home planet, Skywarp and Thundercracker were amazed at what Shockwave had accomplished in their absence and were planning to sign on for the duration. {{storylink|Brothers' Burden}} After getting run down and beaten up by Optimus Prime on his way to Shockwave, though, the Seekers took an offer from Starscream and Soundwave to abandon the rising conflict on Cybertron and return to Earth for some good ol' fashioned looting. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}}

On Earth, Skywarp was part of Starscream's initial salvo against the Ark, a decoy to be deliberately taken prisoner in order to draw out the remaining Autobots where the newly reformatted [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] could get at them. {{storylink|Night of the Combaticons}} After decimating the Autobots' ranks, [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] freed the fallen Decepticons, and they were about ready to terminate their opponents when the awe-inspiring clone known as [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]] emerged from fold-space, looking to have words with Starscream. Sunstorm's "purifying light" induced an energon overload in their systems, knocking them into stasis lock. {{storylink|Black Sunshine}} Skywarp and the others remained Autobot prisoners until Starscream negotiated a deal for their release in exchange for his aid against Sunstorm. {{storylink|Skyfire (issue)|Skyfire}}

Skywarp fell back under Megatron's command once the former leader arrived on Earth and forced Starscream back under his thumb. {{storylink|The Route of All Evil}}

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===Devil's Due ''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers'' comics===
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Skywarp was one of the Transformers reprogrammed to serve the terrorist organization [[Cobra]] and was, along with Thundercracker, rebuilt to transform into a [[Rattler]] aircraft in the process. Their first mission was to show off Cobra's power by assaulting a peace ceremony in [[Washington, D.C.]], and either Skywarp or Thundercracker was the first to reveal his robot mode to the shocked [[United States Air Force|Air Force]] before wrecking [[Ace]]'s jet with a single punch. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 1}}

When [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] undid Cobra's reprogramming of the Transformers, Skywarp waited on the runway in Rattler mode until [[Major Bludd]], unaware of the plane's true identity, decided to use him as his ticket off [[Cobra Island]]. Skywarp responded that he kinda felt like walking today, before crushing Bludd to death with his moving innards as he transformed. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 4}} He then joined Thundercracker in fighting [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], who had also been freed from Cobra's control. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 5}} Unfortunately, the two Seekers were later caught in the [[SPS Satellite]]'s rain of energy beams and deactivated. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 6}}

{{note|As Skywarp's coloration is identical to Thundercracker's in this series, it's possible that it was actually Thundercracker who killed Major Bludd. However, the action seems more like something Skywarp would do.}}
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===IDW comics continuity===
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Skywarp, [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] were early recruits for [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], helping sow terror across Cybertron and kidnap Senator [[Decimus]] just prior to the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] and founding of the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3}} At one point he was part of a squad intent on assassinating [[Zeta Prime]], but the plan was thwarted when [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] warned the Autobot leader (tackling Skywarp in the back on the way). {{storylink|Spotlight: Blurr}}

[[Image:Infiltration5 Skywarptotalled.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Skywarp learns what happens when he pushes Megatron down a flight of stairs.]]
In the modern era, Skywarp is part of a Decepticon infiltration unit that has operated covertly on [[Earth]] for at least four years, working to destabilize Earth's governing organizations and create global anarchy. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 3}} His alternate form is an [[wikipedia:F-22_Raptor|F-22 Raptor]] fighter jet, and his main job seems to be using his teleporting powers to transport his comrades to places.

Starscream assigned him and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] to destroy all traces of the [[Nebraska]] operation, but after demolishing the abandoned Nebraska command bunker, he was severely damaged by Megatron, who, unfortunately for Skywarp, had been inside at the time. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 5}} Megatron was apparently not one to hold grudges, and he soon had Skywarp repaired and functioning again, under the understanding that there would be no further second chances. {{storylink|Escalation issue 1}} While on a mission to destabilize Middle Eastern energy supplies, Skywarp confessed to Thundercracker that he believed Megatron had it in for all of them, especially himself, though his fellow Decepticon pointed out the fact that Megatron did have him repaired. {{storylink|Escalation issue 2}} Skywarp participated in the operation at [[Brasnya]] where he injured [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and evacuated Megatron before the Autobots could destroy him. {{storylink|Escalation issue 6}}

When [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] began his coup, he first contacted Skywarp in an effort to get a viable ally. Skywarp thought it was a big load of crap, but said that if Ramjet could get some results in one day, they'd talk. However, Skywarp did mention that he always "bets on the leader." This turned out to be a prudent decision. {{storylink|Spotlight: Ramjet}}

Skywarp was among the concerned Decepticons who feared that Megatron had lost all sense of reason when he deployed [[Sixshot]] on Earth. They conspired to bring Starscream back into the fold to talk some sense into their leader. {{storylink|Devastation issue 1}} Emboldened by Starscream's lone stand against the Reapers, the Decepticons attacked and eventually the alien invaders, with Skywarp participating in the destruction of their starship. {{storylink|Devastation issue 6}}

About a year later, Megatron had somehow regained Skywarp's confidence, and Skywarp assured Thundercracker that Megatron knew what he was doing when he created [[Insecticon swarm|three thousand twisted perversions of their own race]]. The Decepticons later lured Optimus Prime and his troops into a trap and utterly crushed them, with Skywarp ripping [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]]'s arm clean off. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7}} They proceeded to conquer [[New York City]]. During that attack, Skywarp got to make stuff go boom and kill a lotta folks, and it was the best day out ever. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 1}}

After taking out several military helicopters, Skywarp was assigned to accompany Soundwave, Hook and Astrotrain as they took Frenzy to deal with a large ground force. [[Hook (G1)|Hook]] voiced his doubt that the tiny Decepticon had a chance against such a huge number of enemies, but Skywarp, enjoying a chance for a dig at the new guy, simply told him to make sure he kept his distance. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 2}} All the fun of smashing things and killing millions of people soon soured though, as Skywarp started clashing with the [[Insecticon (G1)|uppity Insecticons]] and getting lonely now Thundercracker was being mopey and Starscream wasn't around much. Even mindlessly killing eight million people in [[China]] couldn't perk him up. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 6}}

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===''Hearts of Steel''===
Skywarp listened to Starscream discussing his plans for conquering Earth and was ordered to fly ahead of the [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], leading the way towards [[New York City]]. His altmode is the same as Starscream's one-engine-per-wing body. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 2}}

{{note|There's no evidence in the story that Skywarp actually ''did'' fly ahead of Astrotrain, but if it's true, he may have survived the Decepticon defeat unharmed.}}
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===3D Battle-Card Game===
Skywarp serves under [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] as one of his Decepticon soldiers, battling [[Optimus Primal]]'s many Autobot allies in what might possibly have been an inter-universe battle. {{storylink|3D Battle-Card Game#Energon Wars expansion|Energon Wars Expansion Set}}
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==Commercial appearances==
Skywarp's history of [[commercial]] appearances includes:

* The very first Transformers animation, a commercial for [[The Transformers (issue)|Issue #1]] of Marvel's ''[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|The Transformers]]'' comic book. On Earth, he flies across the desert with Starscream and Thundercracker to attack a power plant.

* He is briefly seen battling in the desert against Hot Rod, Kup and Blurr, until Cyclonus and Scourge (!!) swoop in to counterattack.

* Skywarp attacks an Autobot power station along with Thrust and Starscream in a commercial for Ultra Magnus.

* He can be very briefly glimpsed swooping into battle alongside Galvatron (!!) on Earth in a subsequent commercial for [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and Galvatron.

[[Image:LiveActionJazz-Skywarp01.jpg|right|200px|thumb|I bet he spiked the punch.]]

* Along with his original Seeker wingmates, he gets barreled over by the Dinobots in a commercial for the Predacons.

* A commercial for Transformers reflective iron-on patches advertised the "[[Prizes in Disguise]]" competition. When the [[iron-on patch]] was used, it was possible to find instead an instant win ticket for a Transformers voice changer (of the [[Enemy]] variety)—or to have a party with "life-size" Transformers! Among the "life-size" Transformers shown were [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and Skywarp. In all likelihood, you did not party with them.

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1-toy SkywarpCommSeries.jpg|right|300px|thumb|The Commemorative Series retooled Skywarp. Robot mode... that's okay. Jet? Not so much.]]
* '''Skywarp''' (Decepticon Jet, 1984/1985/2001/2003/2008)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''23'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 missile launchers, 2 missiles, 2 "Machine Guns", 2 wings (left & right), 2 rudders (left & right), 2 tailfins (left & right), 2 fists (left & right), front landing gear

: The only 1984 [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] with a deco not used previously in [[Takara]]'s ''[[Diaclone]]'' line, Skywarp transforms into an [[wikipedia:F-15_Eagle|F-15 Eagle]] fighter jet, sharing his mold with his teammates [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] and [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]. Many parts need to be removed completely for transformation from robot to jet and back, which nowadays is considered a major drawback of the toy. It is rare to find it complete, as neither mode can hold all the pieces required. There are a few minor mold variations of this toy (common for the first two years of ''Transformers'', really), the most immediately noticeable being that early versions did not have visible "clip-tabs" on the inner face of the gauntlets.

: [[:Image:Redeco.jpg|Early Hasbro stock photos of Skywarp]] show him with a plastic purple nosecone. This was changed to a soft, black rubber nosecone when the toy was actually released. However, a [http://tfarchive.com/toys/articles/toypics/mex_skywarp.jpg Mexican variant] retained the purple plastic nosecone. The same stock photos also show him with purple launchers with black triggers and muzzle rings, black feet, black shins, black outer arm panels, purple horizontal stabilizers, and both sets of purple missiles. These stock photos were also later used to promote Takara's 2001 reissue.

: In 2001, Skywarp was given a short-run reissue (limited to only 1,000 pieces) by Takara as a convention-[[exclusive]] item, bundled together with Thundercracker as "[[Collector's Edition]]" Set C. The toy would later be more extensively released in 2003 as part of [[Hasbro]]'s [[Commemorative Series]] series IV, though due to US [[For safety reasons|toy-safety regulations]], his missiles were made extra-long since his spring-loaded launchers were now fully-functional.

: In August, 2008, Skywarp was released with Thundercracker as number 11 in Takara's [[Transformers Encore]] line. For this release Skywarp's Decepticon symbols were painted and his purple stickers were changed to a much bluer shade of purple. Curiously, Skywarp's wing stripes in this release are factory-applied stickers, instead of the [[tampograph]]s on his two-pack buddy.

: This mold was [[Redeco|redecoed]] into [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]] and retooled to make [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], and [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]].

:For some reason, the stats on Skywarp's, Starscream's and Thundercracker's [[tech specs]] were switched around. Skywarp's box was given Starscream's numbers, which explains his high intelligence and rank. The actual specs intended for this toy, but accidentally given to Thundercracker, are presented here. Hasbro's Commemorative Series Skywarp reissue had his bio rewritten to explain his higher stats.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Skywarp/skywarp.htm More information on Skywarp at TFU.info]''

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===Machine Wars===
[[Image:MWSkywarp.jpg|right|300px|thumb|After his near-fatal encounter with the Invert Colors function.]]
* '''Skywarp''' (Basic, 1997)
**''Accessories:'' 2 rifle halves
: Sharing a mold once again with [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], Skywarp transforms into a white [[wikipedia:Rafale|Dassault Rafale]] fighter jet with spring-loaded one-step transformation from jet to robot. The two halves of his rifle store in his lower legs. Like all ''[[Machine Wars]]'' toys, Skywarp was an [[exclusive]] to Kay-Bee stores and related stores like Toy Liquidators.

: This mold is also used by ''[[Beast Wars II (toyline)|Beast Wars II]]'' [[Dirge (BWII)|Dirge]], ''[[Robots in Disguise (toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Skyfire (RID)|Skyfire]], ''[[Robot Masters (franchise)|Robot Masters]]'' [[Wingstun]] and ''[[Timelines (fiction)|Timelines]]'' [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]].

::*[http://www.tfu.info/1997/Decepticon/Skywarp/skywarp.htm ''More information on ''Machine Wars'' Skywarp at TFU.info'']

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===Universe (2003)===
[[Image:TFU03-toy Skywarp.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Like [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]], except he can fly.]]
* '''Skywarp''' (Deluxe, 2003)
**''Accessories:'' 2 missiles

:''[[Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' Skywarp is a redeco of ''[[Beast Machines (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] in his Generation 1 colors. He transforms into a Cybertronic fighter jet, armed with two spring-loaded projectile launchers that can fire orange "energon" bolts. These launchers end up in his arms in robot mode. He has a third robot mode that collapses the legs around the cockpit (oh hush), with flip-out panels revealing an extra pair of thrusters. His [[spark]] crystal, revealed by flipping the purple hatch on his back, has a Decepticon [[insignia]] [[tampograph]]ed on top of it.

:Skywarp was also used to make ''Beast Machines'' [[Sonic Attack Jet]], ''Robots in Disguise'' [[Storm Jet (RID)|Storm Jet]], and ''Robots in Disguise'' [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Decepticon/Skywarp/skywarp.htm More information on Universe Skywarp at TFU.info]''

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===Smallest Transforming Transformers===
* '''Skywarp''' (2003)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''GTF X-1'''

: ''[[Smallest Transforming Transformers]]'' Skywarp was a very small-scale simplification of the original Generation 1 Seeker toy, retaining most of its functionality and accessories, except for his long null-rays. Skywarp was one of two [[Chase figure|chase figures]] from the first wave of the line.

: This mold was redecoed from Starscream, then re-redecoed into Thundercracker, and finally retooled to make Thrust.

::*[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Destron/SmallestSkywarp/skywarp.htm ''More information on ''Smallest Transforming Transformers'' Skywarp at TFU.info'']

===Robot Masters===
[[Image:RMSkywarp toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Now with the proper articulation for down-stair-pushing.]]
* '''Skywarp & Thundercracker''' (Multi-pack, 2005)
**''Accessories:'' 2 "Machine Guns"

: ''[[Robot Masters (franchise)|Robot Masters]]'' Skywarp is a redeco of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] from the same series, a smaller yet more advanced version of the original toy, adding more articulation and reducing the amount of [[Partformer|part-forming]] required. He was available only in a two-pack with Thundercracker, which also came with a Decepticon sigil pin and chromed missile pods. This set was the very last product released in the ''Robot Masters'' line and wasn't even strictly sold in a box from that series; instead, it used an [[e-Hobby]] ''Generation 1'' reissue box, with a small ''Robot Masters'' sticker in the corner tab noting its origin from the front.

::*[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Destron/Skywarp/skywarp.htm ''More information on ''Robot Masters'' Skywarp at TFU.info'']

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===Classics (2006)===
[[Image:Class06-toy Skywarp.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Ultra Magnus isn't pictured because he was just pushed-well, you know.]]
* '''Ultra Magnus vs Skywarp: Battle For Autobot City''' (Multi-pack, 2006)
**''Accessories:'' Left & right missile launchers, 2 missiles

: ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' Skywarp is a slight retool of the ''Classics'' Starscream mold, transforming into an [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes|F-15 Eagle fighter jet]], though with a canopy like that of an [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes|F-14 Tomcat]]. He comes with a pair of spring-loaded missile launchers that can be mounted on his biceps or used as hand-held weapons in robot mode and can attach under his wings in vehicle mode. As with most ''Classics'' toys, he also features a heat-sensitive [[rubsign]].

: Skywarp was slightly [[Retool|retooled]] from the earlier Starscream figures. The retool is present in the jet intake area. The slope of his shoulders was decreased from Starscream's, and a rectangle added to the vertical area, making the number now five instead of four. This retooled version was used for all subsequent releases of the mold: ''Classics'' [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], and [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], as well as [[Acid Storm]] from ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]''. At the end of ''Classics'' Starscream's production run, he too used this version of the mold.

: He was only available as part of a Target stores [[exclusive]] two-pack with [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]. The set's price was $19.99, despite including both a Voyager-class and Deluxe-class mold in it, which was approximately $30 worth of toys if they'd been sold separately. He was also available in Woolworth stores throughout the United Kingdom.

: [[:Image:Classics Skywarp toy.jpg|Stock photos of ''Classics'' Skywarp]] showed a more detailed color scheme than the actual released figure. Much like ''Classics'' Ultra Magnus, the changes were most likely due to an overabundance of [[Paint application|paint applications]]. This more detailed version was shown at [[BotCon 2006]] and at least one sample found its way to a collector's hands. The sample also used the original Starscream mold, and not the retooled version used for every version of the mold since and even including Starscream.

::*[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Decepticon/ClassicsSkywarp/skywarp.htm ''More information on ''Classics'' Skywarp at TFU.info'']

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===Masterpiece===
* '''Masterpiece Skywarp''' (2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MP-6'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 "Machine Guns", 2 AIM missile racks, Doctor Arkeville pilot, Megatron Gun clasp, display stand

[[Image:MP-6 Skywarp.jpg|200px|thumb|Takara finally remembered what colors the Seekers are supposed to be.]]
: ''[[Masterpiece]]'' Skywarp was released in Japan in September of 2007. He is a redeco of the Masterpiece Starscream mold in black, gray, silver, and purple, though the purple and silver are more minimal than usual. Skywarp is able to switch between a minimally retooled stoic face and a new snarly face, retooled from Starscream's previous smirk. The tiny [[Doctor Arkeville]] pilot figurine (this time molded black) is also included, as well as a clasp for jet-mode Skywarp to hold the gun-mode Megatron that came with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Masterpiece Convoy/20th Anniversary Optimus Prime]].

[[Image:MPSkywarp stickers.jpg|200px|left|thumb|Sadly, no stair-pusher sticker.]]
: The sticker sheet includes Skywarp-esque stripes, as well as several whimsical squadron markings.

:The second pressing of Masterpiece Skywarp (released in October 2008) features an assembly error: his left and right pectorals are flipped. This misassembly does not affect transformation at all, and is really only noticeable when compared to prior Masterpiece Seekers. The September 2007 pressing of Masterpiece Skywarp is assembled correctly. Masterpiece Thundercracker is misassembled as well.

::*[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Destron/Skywarp/skywarp.htm ''More information on ''Masterpiece'' Skywarp at TFU.info'']

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===Attacktix===
*'''Skywarp'''

: Skywarp was among the planned ''Transformers [[Attacktix]]'' game pieces that were showed at some conventions, but went unreleased as the line was canceled. He was to be a missile-type piece, sculpted in jet mode with a giant underslung missile launcher.

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===Titanium Series===
[[Image:Titanium-toy WWSkywarp.JPG|right|300px|thumb|]]
*'''War Within Skywarp''' (San Diego Comic-Con 2008 exclusive)

: [[Titanium Series]] ''[[War Within]]'' Skywarp is a redeco of Thundercracker, transforming into a Cybertronian "tetrajet" as reimagined by [[Don Figueroa]]. As with all 6-inch Titanium Cybertron Heroes, he is constructed mostly of fully painted die-cast metal. He was available only at [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] after the Titanium line had already been cancelled, and also Hasbro Toy Shop's booth at [[wikipedia:San_Diego_Comic-Con|San Diego Comic-Con]] 2008.

: This mold was also used to make ''War Within'' Starscream, Sunstorm and Thrust.

::*[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/SDCCSkywarp/skywarp.htm ''More information on ''Titanium'' Skywarp at TFU.info'']

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===Henkei! Henkei!===
[[Image:Henkei Skywarp.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Skywarp grabbed the wrong launchers.]]
*'''Skywarp''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' 2 missile launchers (left and right), 2 missiles

: ''[[Henkei! Henkei! (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' Skywarp is a redeco of ''Henkei! Henkei!'' [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]]. He features a colour scheme similar to his ''Generation 1'' cartoon appearance. ''Henkei'' Skywarp and his fellow [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] ''Henkei! Henkei!'' [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] were released in September, 2008 as an exclusive through Toy Hobby Market.

:Soon after release, there were numerous complaints from both Japanese and Western collectors about the poor quality control for both Thundercracker and Skywarp. Skywarp's most common fault was missing paint for one of his shoulders. Some reported both toys suffering misassembly issues such as having two left or two right thighs.

:Several minor changes were made to this mold for this release. The holes for his missile launchers in his arms were widened, as were the launcher's insertion pegs. The wing's missile launcher insertion points were lengthened and are now curved at the end. The last rectangle on his air intakes, was further modified from the [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] version this time the bottom most rectangle goes completely across the air intake's surface rather than just the center. Henkei [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' Starscream also saw most of these changes.

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===Universe (2008)===
*'''Masterpiece Skywarp''' (2009)
**''Accessories:'' 2 "Machine Guns", 2 AIM missile racks, Doctor Arkeville pilot, Megatron Gun clasp, display stand
: A Wal-Mart exclusive redeco of the Takara version, featuring a more G1 toy styled scheme, down to having G1 toy styled striping and yellow eyes rather than the cartoon inspired striping and red eyes. His purple more closely matches that of the original toy than the purple used on the Takara version, and features a lighter flat black, like the original toy, instead of Takara's darker glossy black. The Hasbro version replaces some of the dark gray of the Takara version with a dark silver, removes the arm and chest striping, but adds additional red detailing, while removing some as well. Much like Hasbro's Starscream, he does not feature any of the warning or slogan tampographs, but features tampographed striping, Decepticon symbols, and some additional paint details not present on the Takara version.
:Most notably it uses the two Masterpiece Starscream faces rather than those of the Takara Skywarp due to the fact that Hasbro felt Starscream's smirk face fit him more than Takara Skywarp's snarl.
:Just like Starscream, Skywarp is able to switch between stoic face and smirking face. The tiny Doctor Arkeville pilot figurine (molded in black with no paint applications) is also included, as well as a clasp for jet-mode Skywarp to hold the gun-mode Megatron that came with Masterpiece Convoy/20th Anniversary Optimus Prime and a stand (featuring Skywarp's name) with a support beam for jet or robot mode.

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==Merchandise==
===Decoy===
* '''Skywarp''' (1986)

: ''[[Decoy]]'' Skywarp is a tiny, purple, soft-rubber figurine randomly packed with smaller toys at the time. To differentiate him from Starscream and Thundercracker, Skywarp is sculpted holding his arms above his head in a cheering pose.

===Heroes of Cybertron===
* '''Skywarp''' (2002)

: Released in the first wave of the ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' line, Skywarp was a non-transforming action figure [[redeco]]ed (of course) from ''Heroes of Cybertron'' Starscream. As with the rest of the line, Skywarp was composed of transparent red plastic that was entirely painted over, giving him "light-up" eyes.

:The Japanese [[Super Collection Figure|SCF]] version was to be limited to 200 pieces and was one of two prizes offered from the original run of the ''[[Transformers Generations]]'' book (the other being a mostly clear reissue Starscream, distinct from the Ghost Starscream version). Due to the bankruptcy of the ''Transformers: Generations'' publisher, Keibunsha, it is unknown whether the Japanese version of Skywarp was ever actually sent out.

* '''Skywarp''' (2003)

: Same as the American version above, but part of an [[OTFCC 2003]]-exclusive six-pack of figures which also included Starscream, Thundercracker, and three [[Air Warrior]]s. It featured a more metallic paint job from the normal release and slightly different paint details.{{fact}}

===Legends of Cybertron===
* '''Skywarp''' (2004, unreleased)

[[Image:OTFCCSkywarp.jpg|thumb|Doesn't so much teleport as not exist in the first place.]]

: A redeco of ''Mega Super Figure Collection'' G1 Starscream (minus the extra coronation accessories, open-palm hands, and the hand wielding Megatron in gun mode), Skywarp was to be among the first of the fan club exclusives offered by [[The Official Transformers Collectors Convention|OTFCC]] as well as the first in their ''Legends of Cybertron'' line. The figure was delayed and never saw a full release due to [[3H Productions|3H Enterprises]] losing the license to run the official Transformers fan club. At least a couple of sample versions were produced.

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===Palisades===
* '''Skywarp''' (Palisades, 2005)

[[Image:PalisadesSkywarp.jpg|thumb|Decepticon on a stick! Get yer Decepticon on a stick!]]

:A ''SmallBluePlanet''-exclusive redeco of the Starscream statue, Skywarp is a six inch tall polystone statue with articulated head and arms. He can stand normally or use a stand to take on a "hovering" pose. Skywarp was limited to 300 pieces, and sculpted by [[3L Creation Group]] from a design by [[George Tremarco]].

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===Robot Heroes===
* '''Decepticon Sneak Attack''' (2007)

[[Image:Robot Hero Skywarp.jpg|right|120px|thumb|Clearly just after shoving Starscream down a flight of stairs.]]
: Skywarp is one of the five exclusive figures in Wal-Mart's "Decepticon Sneak Attack" set, alongside [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], [[Mirage (G1)|holographic Mirage]] and "Supermetal Finish" versions of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. He's a black and purple redeco of Starscream, yes. His left hand's for pushing you down stairs, his right fist's for pumping the air in victory. Sweet, sweet stair-based victory.

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===3D Battle-Card Game===
*'''Skywarp''' (2007)

: A 25-point "uncommon" character in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]'s "Energon Wars" expansion, Skywarp "transforms" into a black and purple jet. He uses the same parts layout as [[Transformers (2007)|Movie]] [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]].

==Trivia==
* Skywarp's one-line characterization in the original Transformers [[production bible]] was "sneaky but dumb". Hee hee. [http://tfarchive.com/cartoons/bible/#034] In a more peculiar note, his longer write-up in the production bible noted that he was colored olive drab. [http://tfarchive.com/cartoons/bible/#038] This error isn't as unusual as one might first think, as Skywarp was the only first-year jet whose colors didn't originate in ''[[Diaclone]]''—thus, they simply may not have been decided upon when the production bible was written.

[[Image:Skywarpatron.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Skywarp really DID need close supervision.]]
* In a possible fit of madness, a triple changer was proposed that would switch between Skywarp (possibly mistaken for Starscream), [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], and Skywarp's jet mode.

* Character bios written by unknown persons for the Australian (Madman) DVD release of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' definitely claim that [[Cyclonus (G1)|Skywarp became Cyclonus]]. Basically, nobody considers that weighty "evidence".

* Skywarp is the only Seeker with wing stripes that are not red.

* For such a popular character, Skywarp doesn't DO much of anything in the original show.

* [[Skywarp_%28G1%29#Machine_Wars|Despite]] [[Skywarp_%28G1%29#Classics_.282006.29|many]] [[Skywarp_%28G1%29#Heroes_of_Cybertron|releases]], [[Skywarp_%28G1%29#Titanium_Series|Skywarp]] [[Skywarp_%28G1%29#Henkei.21_Henkei.21|is]] [[Skywarp_%28G1%29#Universe_.282008.29|usually]] [[Skywarp_%28G1%29#Robot_Heroes|an]] [[Skywarp_%28G1%29#Generation_1_2|exclusive.]]

==External links==
* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Skywarp Skywarp's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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Skywarp (G1)

2009-11-18T23:09:31Z

207.181.17.24: /* The Transformers cartoon */

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:''Skywarp is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Skywarp1.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Skywarp, Decepticon Stair-Pusher-Downer]]
[[Teleportation]] is a dangerous tool in the hands of a capable adversary. Thankfully for the [[Autobot|Autobots]], '''Skywarp''' is the Decepticon who possesses that ability. Skywarp's not so bright, so without supervision he's worthless as a warrior. He mostly uses his teleportation power for immature pranks on both friend and foe. He takes a charmingly puerile angle at thuggery, so his pranks are well-received amongst his Decepticon peers (excepting the victim, of course).

Because, come on, a surprise push down a staircase is ''hilarious''.

{{quote|Don't think. Just do.|Skywarp's life motto|"[[Megatron Origin issue 4]]"}}

:''French-Canadian name'': '''Fraudeur''' ("Cheater" or "Evader" or "Smuggler")
:''Hungarian name'': '''Égretörő''' ("Sky-springer")
:''Italian name'': '''Corvo''' ("Crow")
:''Portuguese name (Portugal comics)'': '''Espião Celeste'''
:''Portuguese name (Brazil comics)'': '''Viajante'''
:''Chinese name (Taiwan):'' '''Tīen Wān''' (天彎, "Sky Warp")
:''Chinese name (China):'' '''Nao Fan Tian''' (鬧翻天, "Extreme Ruckus")
:''Russian TV dub name:'' '''Deformer'''

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
{{noteukonly}}
[[Image:Introdump decepticons marvelus01.jpg|left|300px|thumb|You can tell Skywarp apart from Thundercracker in the Marvel Comics by, uh.... let us get back to you on that.]]
Skywarp was one of [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron's]] troops who attacked the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] during its mission to clear a path for [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] through an asteroid field. He was deactivated when it crashed on [[Earth]], and he lay dormant for four million years. When he and his fellow Decepticons awoke, Skywarp was given a new [[Alternate mode|altmode]], that of an Earth jet. {{storylink|The Transformers (issue)|The Transformers}} He aided the Decepticons in their building of their new base constructed of parts from [[Harrison Nuclear Power Plant]] and joined in their attack on [[Sparkplug Witwicky]]'s auto repair shop. After the successful abduction of Sparkplug Witwicky, Skywarp, [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] defended their base from [[Autobot|Autobots]], though [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] and [[Spider-Man]] were able to sneak through and rescue Sparkplug. {{storylink|Prisoner of War!}}

''When Starscream fired upon his teammate [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] for eavesdropping on his plot to overthrow Megatron, Skywarp and the other Decepticons sought deadly revenge on the Decepticon [[Air Commander]]. {{storylink|The Enemy Within!}} Though Starscream escaped, the Decepticons soon regrouped to attack the Ark, but their battle was ended prematurely when [[Auntie]], the Ark's computer system, magnetized the walls, immobilizing both factions. {{storylink|Raiders of the Last Ark}} On another occasion, he and Thundercracker made a strafing run on two Autobot spies, [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]. Jazz was deafened and blasted off the road, but Sunstreaker led them into a human military zone, prompting Megatron to call them back to base. {{storylink|Perchance to Dream}} Skywarp also traveled with the Decepticons to the [[United Kingdom]], where he and his teammates attempted to learn about a mysterious Autobot rescue ship buried under a castle. An initial attack on the Autobots left Skywarp seriously wounded by a bomb from [[Bluestreak]]. {{storylink|Man of Iron!}}''

Though Sparkplug Witwicky was able to devise a way for the Decepticons to convert Earth fuel into a usable substance, he also poisoned the result, so Skywarp and his fellow Decepticons were immobilized at the climax of their would-be final battle with the Autobots. {{storylink|The Last Stand}} The Decepticon [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] took command of the Decepticons and the Ark shortly thereafter and nursed Skywarp and his comrades back to full health. Skywarp may have helped Shockwave attempt to capture and brainwash [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] into a Decepticon, or it may have been Thundercracker without red stripes. It's hard to tell. {{storylink|Plight of the Bumblebee!}}

[[Image:Skywarpgoofyteleportation.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Upon close inspection, Skywarp's teleportation power is merely a goofy loop-de-loop.]]
He served the Decepticon cause up until he was deactivated while battling [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and placed in prison stasis at Autobot headquarters. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}

''When [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] traveled back from the year 2006 to build a super-weapon to destroy [[Unicron]], Skywarp was a key player in the defeat of the mad Decepticon. Sorta.''

''The Autobots took Skywarp out of stasis, painted him to look like [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and sent him stumbling toward Galvatron with a tape-recorder of Starscream's voice on his back. Galvatron, still sore about Starscream tossing him out of [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] during his Megatron days, shot and presumably killed Skywarp. Galvatron then realized that if he killed Starscream in the past then there'd be no way he could have killed Starscream in the future (never mind that killing Skywarp now opens up that whole issue of [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus' identity]]). Believing he was in an alternate past and thus nothing he did there would affect his personal timeline, Galvatron hurried back to his proper time. Way to take one for the team, Skywarp. {{storylink|Target: 2006}}''

During a massive battle between the Autobots and Decepticons on Earth's moon, Skywarp and the other Decepticons held in stasis aboard the Ark were liberated by the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] and subsequently brought back online. {{storylink|Totaled!}} During the first Decepticon Civil War, Skywarp battled with [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]'s Decepticons against [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s Decepticons. Skywarp surprised [[Bugly]] with his teleportation powers and blasted him, temporarily stunning him. However, Bugly successfully returned fire, striking where he guessed Skywarp would next teleport. {{storylink|Cold War!}} Skywarp was repaired in time to face an [[Underbase]]-powered Starscream in [[Tokyo]], but both he and Thundercracker were destroyed by their former flying partner. {{storylink|Dark Star (issue)|Dark Star}}

====''Generation 2''====
The Autobots and the Decepticons had just agreed to make an alliance against the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]], but the Decepticons disagreed about aiding other planets' people. When the Autobots went alone to fight the Cybertronians, they almost were defeated, until Skywarp (yes, this article is about him) suddenly appeared, followed by the rest of the Decepticon army, to aid the Autobots.

And you just know he mocked the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] he saved. ''Relentlessly.'' {{storylink|Escalation!}}

====''Classics''====
{{note|Classics is a [[splinter timeline]] from the Marvel US continuity that does not include events from either ''Generation 2'' or the Marvel UK issues.}}
His broken body rescued from [[Tokyo]], Skywarp was rebuilt using Shockwave's upgraded [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] schematics. He was told that it was Starscream, driven mad with the power of the [[Underbase]], who did him in. Skywarp's okay with that. After all, the traitor's going to have to let down his guard sometime. {{fact}}

After the appearance of the mysterious crossdimensional Decepticon [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]], Skywarp and the other rebuilt Decepticons under Megatron's command traveled to [[South America]] to investigate an equally mysterious power source that seemed to share traits with Landquake. En route, they were attacked by [[Walter Barnett]]'s [[RUNT]] squad. {{storylink|Crossing Over, Part 2}} Skywarp managed to shake off these interlopers just before Optimus Prime and his Autobots arrived in search of this same power source, and a new battle between the factions began in the jungles surrounding the power source. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 3}} As the battle escalated, Skywarp and Starscream fought [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] across the skies, {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 5}} but ultimately, Megatron was forced to call for a withdrawal. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 6}}

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===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]] (English), [[Masashi Ebara]] (Japanese)

[[Image:Tetrajet seekers.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Cybertron alt-mode (left). The early Decepticons promoted geometry.]]
In the early days of the Decepticon rebellion, Skywarp and [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] both faced the powerful protectors of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron's]] cities, the [[Guardian Robots]]. Even millions of years later, the powerful Guardians struck fear into Skywarp's spark. {{storylink|War Dawn}}

Skywarp was one of the elite Decepticons that served [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] on Cybertron four million years ago. Skywarp and his fellow Seekers came across the Autobots [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] pilfering [[conductor|energy conductors]], and tried to eliminate the Auto-jerks. Once Wheeljack broke through their defenses, Skywarp and Thundercracker transformed to their tetrajet modes and followed the Autobots. They managed to get a good shot in against Bumblebee, but soon both Autobots escaped termination by taking the chase underground. Skywarp later joined Megatron in attacking and boarding the [[Ark (G1)|Autobot ship]] on their search for energy. After crash-landing on Earth, the Decepticons and Autobots laid dormant for four million years, until volcanic activity stirred the ship's computer back to life. Skywarp was the first of the ship's Transformers to be reformatted and awakened by [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]], in the form of an Earthen F-15 fighter jet. Once active, Skywarp immediately dragged his master Megatron's body into the reformatting rays of the Ark's computer, and soon all the Decepticons were revived. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}

Since the Decepticons were so badly short-staffed during their early days on Earth, Skywarp was usually involved in whatever crazy plot for universal domination Megatron was hatching. This included attacks on an off-shore oil rig, [[Sherman Dam]] and the [[Ruby Crystal Mines of Burma|ruby crystal mines of Burma]]. On the last raid, Skywarp and Thundercracker caught a pair of snoops -- Bumblebee and the human, [[Sparkplug Witwicky]]. They were knocking the little Autobot around for fun, and pondering how to giftwrap him for Megatron, when an explosion caused the mine to cave in around them. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 2}} When the Decepticons escaped the Burma operation with a cache of energon cubes, Skywarp requested permission from Megatron to teleport in order to scare off Autobot pursuers. Teleporting behind the strangely airborne duo of [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] and [[Bluestreak]], Skywarp pasted the ornery old Autobot with a heat-seeking missile, knocking him out of the sky that he probably shouldn't have been able to fly around in anyway. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 3}}

[[Image:TransporttoOblivion Skywarp Prowl punchy.jpg|left|180px|thumb|"[[Bumblebee (G1)|Punch-buggy yellow]]!"]]
When [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] was caught spying on the Decepticons' new [[Space Bridge]], Skywarp and Starscream captured him for Megatron. After Bumblebee was reprogrammed to led the Autobots into a trap, Skywarp biffed [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] from behind, causing him to fall down in an almost pushing-down-stairs-like fashion. {{storylink|Transport to Oblivion}} After the Decepticons acquired the [[antimatter]] formula, they were en route to the Ark when [[Sunstreaker]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] intercepted them, practicing their jet judo maneuvers. Skywarp was being thrown off-course by Sideswipe's antics until Starscream knocked the Autobot warrior loose. During the battle, Megatron charged himself up with the Decepticons' new toy, and transformed into an "anti-matter gun" to obliterate the Autobots. After Starscream had his turn with the gun, Skywarp got ready to blow some Autobots away too. Before he could start, however, [[Spike Witwicky]] attacked his leg with a jackhammer. He scooped up the puny fleshling and was about to blast him with the anti-matter gun (and, incidentally, probably blow his own hand off in the process) when [[Chip Chase]] attached a computer override device invented by [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], which allowed Teletraan I to take brief control of his body. Skywarp started firing Megatron's anti-matter power at the other Decepticons, overheating the unstable power supply and forcing the Decepticons to retreat. {{storylink|Roll for It}}

{{bigquote|You little fool... You're no match for Skywarp!|Skywarp announces his superiority to a teenage fleshling and a kid in a wheelchair.|"[[Roll for It]]"}}

Skywarp was later part of a Decepticon raid on a factory, apparently in a very playful mood with his teleporting power. First he 'ported behind some human guards to taunt them before making them scatter with laser fire. Then, when Thundercracker blased open some power lines to begin filling his energon cubes, Skywarp "cut in line" by teleporting between Thundercracker and the energy to fill his own cube first. When [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] showed up to stop them, Skywarp fired a heat-seeking missile at him, only for Prime to deflect it with a punch. The Autobot was eventually defeated, and Skywarp ran off with some [[energon cube]]s. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer}}

When the Decepticons began draining heat energy out of Earth's core using a crystal shaft in the Arctic, Skywarp got a bit bored at the lack of real action. He was in the middle of taunting Rumble when the two of them accidentally caused a miniature avalanche in one of the caves. By sheer happenstance, this led to the Decepticons recovering the long-lost [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]] from an icy tomb. Skywarp helped perform repairs on the giant flier, though it was probably better for all concerned if somebody with actual knowledge had performed these repairs. {{storylink|Fire in the Sky}}

During a battle at [[Great Falls]] hydroelectric power facility, the newly-constructed [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] arrived to rescue the beleagured Autobots, who had been captured by the Decepticons. Skywarp foolishly attempted to beat the flamethrowing [[Slag (G1)|Slag]] with a mere pair of heat-seeking missiles, and ended up being grabbed out of the air by the mighty jaws of [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], who chomped on his wing and threw Skywarp into his fellow Megatron loyalist [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]. {{storylink|S.O.S. Dinobots}} Soon afterwards, during an operation in [[Peru]], Skywarp got to be Megatron's favorite Seeker for the day after Starscream and Thundercracker stole poor-quality steel for their latest super-weapon. He had fun taunting the egotistic 'Screamer when Megatron called him to battle, leaving the other Seekers behind on mere guard duty. {{storylink|Fire on the Mountain}} Later, Skywarp helped Megatron steal a giant meteor, although its unstable power proved too dangerous to use for energon cubes. {{storylink|War of the Dinobots}}

Skywarp was in a playful mood during the Decepticons' raid of a solar power plant in [[India]], cracking wise and hoping to play a game of catch...with the rajah as the ball. He had even more fun in a quick free-for-all with the Autobots, a distraction so that the Decepticons could kidnap one of the Autobots' fleshling friends as a guinea pig for [[Doctor Arkeville]]'s mind-control experiments. Skywarp enjoyed himself so much, he got in a fight with Starscream on the way back to headquarters about how ''brilliant'' Megatron's plan was. Thundercracker had to jump out of the way while the two of them roughhoused in the elevator. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 1}} Thanks in part to Arkeville's [[hypno-chip]] slaves, the Decepticons were able to bring Cybertron into Earth's orbit, creating massive environmental disturbances that produced millions of energon cubes. What's more, transporting energon to Cybertron was now just a short flight away. Unfortunately, the devastation was greater than Megatron had anticipated. While Skywarp was on a return flight from Cybertron, a tidal wave broke off the access tower to the Decepticons' undersea base, flooding it. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 2}} Skywarp was present at the final battle before the Autobots knocked Cybertron out of orbit, and fled when Megatron abandoned his troops to escape with the energon cubes. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 3}} With Megatron seemingly destroyed as his star cruiser exploded with the cubes on-board, the Decepticons were left rudderless. While working on repairs for their undersea base, tempers flared as Skywarp picked a fight with his favorite target, Rumble, and his pint-sized partner, [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]]. Skywarp bit off more than he could chew, however, as Frenzy's surprising strength overcame Skywarp as he tried to crush the mini-cassette beneath his heel. Thundercracker and Soundwave started to get involved in the fracas too, but Megatron soon arrived to put his house back in order. {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (episode)|Countdown to Extinction}}

[[Image:Changegearsskywarp.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Remarkable scale accurate for the Masterpiece Skywarp toy]]Like all Decepticons, Skywarp provided his [[power chip rectifier]] to Megatron for his single combat with Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Heavy Metal War}} When the Decepticons attacked another rocket base, Skywarp and Thundercracker attempted to double-team Optimus Prime, but only succeeded in destroying the very rockets they came to plunder. {{storylink|Autobot Spike}} Later, the Decepticons attacked a mining camp to lure the Autobots out into the open, and Skywarp stood guard over the humans being used as bait. After they used the opportunity to kidnap [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] for his special circuit board, Skywarp later helped fill the energon cubes from Megatron's [[Solar Needle]]. {{storylink|Changing Gears}} As the Decepticons took over New York to create the city of New Cybertron, Skywarp was seen loading cars into [[Mixmaster (G1)|Mixmaster]]'s drum for reconstruction. He and Thundercracker were later damaged after trying to take some potshots at Optimus Prime, only to miss and crash straight through a building in the process. {{storylink|City of Steel}} He also served in a later assault on the Ark, distracting the Autobots long enough for Megatron to sneak inside and mess with their [[recharging chamber]]s. {{storylink|Attack of the Autobots}}

Rather stoic in recent weeks, Skywarp was back to his cheery but malicious self when he and Starscream went after some [[electro-cell]]s at the [[Experimental Energy Research Laboratory]]. While breaking through the roof of the installation, Skywarp merrily remarked on the joy of opening presents. During a fight with the Autobot named [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]], one of Skywarp's insignia was ripped off, and later planted to help turn the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]]s against the Decepticons. {{storylink|Traitor}} During a battle with the Autobots over the [[immobilizer]], Skywarp unleashed his new toy: a [[bouncer bomb]]. This weapon ricocheted through the trees, explosively bouncing from one side of the battlefield to another. Unfortunately, the Decepticons were also subject to its "friendly fire" until Megatron shot the blasted thing down. {{storylink|The Immobilizer}}

Skywarp's teleportation power did come in useful when he was needed to sneak up on the Autobots with the [[Transfixatron]]. One quick zap and they were all frozen in vehicle mode. However, he failed to zap ALL the Autobots, which ultimately led to the undoing of Megatron's scheme. {{storylink|The Autobot Run}} Skywarp was present during the Decepticon alliance with [[Sub-Atlantica]], and was part of their attack on Washington D.C. He and Thundercracker strafed the Autobots while in battle on the Great Lawn. {{storylink|Atlantis, Arise!}} When the Decepticons stole the ninja robot [[Nightbird]], Skywarp used his grapples to pull the roof off of the demonstration ampitheater, allowing Starscream and Thundercracker to swoop in and grab the robot. {{storylink|Enter the Nightbird}}

Skywarp and his flying buddies once attempted to triple-team Optimus Prime in battle, but failed to do more than provide Optimus with a chance to toss a good quip. Strangely, Skywarp was later seen throwing what looking like a standard pineapple grenade at the Autobots. It was effective enough, but looked as out of place as an AK or a tommygun in Transformer hands. {{storylink|A Prime Problem}} When the Decepticons made yet another attempt at harnessing some sort of power from the Earth's core, Skywarp defended their drilling operation from the Autobots. He and the Seekers attempted to bomb the Autobots from the air, but a scattering of explosive missiles from [[Bluestreak]]'s shoulder launchers took them out of the fight. {{storylink|The Core}}

During the assault on Iron Mountain, Skywarp was briefly taken over by [[Bombshell]]'s [[cerebro-shell]]s during a tiff between Megatron and the Insecticons. {{storylink|The Insecticon Syndrome}} He also joined the Decepticon expedition to [[Dinobot Island]], to loot and plunder its various sources of energy. Skywarp was eager to do battle with the Dinobots when they arrived to defend their new home...which just goes to show Skywarp's kinda stupid. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 1}} When the Autobots eventually arrived to help drive the Decepticons off of Dinobot Island, they were aided by a band of dinosaurs themselves, prodded onwards by [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]. Skywarp and Thundercracker found their lasers ineffective against the charging brutes, and were forced to retreat with the rest of their army. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 2}}

During some aerial dogfighting with the Autobot ace, [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]], Skywarp took a nasty hit to the wing. He must have managed to limp back to base, because he was present for Megatron's interrogation of the Constructicons a short while later. {{storylink|The Master Builders}} When the Decepticons went after [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]'s latest super-weapon, the [[Negavator]], Skywarp and the Seekers strafed the Autobot convoy in a box canyon. Their efforts were blocked by [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]]'s disruptor beams and magnetic smoke, which left the Seekers unable to see or navigate in any way. Skywarp and [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] ended up in a three-way collision with each other and a canyon wall. {{storylink|Auto Berserk}} Once, the Decepticons were pre-emptively celebrating the destruction of the Autobots after Megatron acquired the [[Heart of Cybertron]]. They got over-energized on energon cubes and passed out in the desert. Five'll get you ten, whoever passed out closest to Skywarp woke up with a [[Scraplet]] drawn on their face in permanent marker. {{storylink|Microbots}}

Skywarp was a participant in the ultimate prank against the Autobots. Using Autobot costumes left over from last Halloween, Skywarp and some others raided an oil refinery for fuel, only to be driven off when the "heroic" Decepticons arrived to stop the "evil" Autobots. The entire scene was filmed by [[Shawn Berger]] and used to smear the Autobots' good name so severely that they were forced to abandon Earth entirely in a rocket cruiser. Ha HA! {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1}} The fleshlings didn't appreciate the joke when they found out the punchline, but Skywarp and the Decepticons were too busy enslaving [[Central City]] to care. As bad luck would have it, though, the Autobots managed to make their way back to Earth, and drive off the Decepticon occupation. Killjoys. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2}}

When the Decepticons set up a temporary base of operations at the airport, Optimus Prime sent in the Dinobots to clear them out. Skywarp and the other jets were caught off-guard initially, but the Decepticons had learned from previous encounters that the Dinobots were more vulnerable in their robot modes. By feigning defeat, Skywarp and the others lured the Dinobots into a false sense of security, and they transformed back to robot mode. Skywarp and Megatron then unleashed a barrage of energy, igniting the jumbo jets on the tarmac and causing the Dinobots tremendous damage. The Decepticons finally scored a decent victory against the Dinos, and they owed it all to a dirty underhanded sneak attack. It was a good day to be Skywarp. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1}}

Like most of the Decepticons, Skywarp was rendered temporarily invulnerable due to exposure to [[electrum]]. Invincibility didn't make him any better a prison guard, though, as even [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] was able to overpower him and escape from the Decepticons' undersea headquarters. {{storylink|The Golden Lagoon}} Skywarp was seen delivering the Insecticons' share of the energon harvested from their clones using Megatron's energon transference process. Since the meager three cubes the Insecticons got were a small pittance compared to how many were actually being generated, Skywarp was surely snickering to himself as he handed them over. {{storylink|Quest for Survival}} When the Space Bridge materialized in the middle of a baseball stadium, Skywarp and Soundwave got into a friendly game of catch...with flesh-creatures as the ball. Then the Autobots had to show up and ruin their fun. {{storylink|Child's Play}}

Later on, Skywarp and the Seekers kidnapped a group of Earth's world leaders, but ran into the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbot]]s during their getaway. Skywarp nearly nailed [[Slingshot]] with a loop-the-loop, coming down on him from above, but was shot down by [[Skydive (G1)|Skydive]]. {{storylink|War Dawn}} One day, Skywarp and Thundercracker were guarding the Space Bridge when Starscream arrived. After showing them his authorization (which looked suspiciously like a null ray rifle), they allowed Starscream to travel to Cybertron. {{storylink|Starscream's Brigade}} At Megatron's command, Skywarp travelled to [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]] headquarters to check up on their progress in the latest Decepticon scheme. At Megatron's command, Skywarp landed at the empty base. At Megatron's command, he began to follow the mysterious trail of loose Combaticon parts leading out of the canyon. You gotta wonder what Skywarp is capable of without constant supervision...{{storylink|B.O.T. (episode)|B.O.T.}}

In 2005, Skywarp was part of a massive [[Battle of Autobot City|Decepticon attack]] on [[Autobot City]] on Earth. He was badly damaged during the battle, but managed to escape with the rest of his comrades aboard [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]. However, en route to Cybertron he was tossed out into space with other badly damaged Decepticons so that the rest would be able to make it home. Skywarp's body was gathered by [[Unicron]] and, among others, used to make [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]'s new warriors. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}

{{note|Skywarp arguably became either [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] or [[Cyclonus's Armada]], the identical warrior who was never seen again. Either way, Skywarp effectively ceased existing.}}

====Japanese cartoon continuity====
{{note|The events of the Generation 1 cartoon occur in Japanese continuity as described above. The Japanese continuity then proceeds to insert several additional stories into the timeline, as follows.}}

=====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic=====
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===3H comics===
[[Image:Wreckersskywarpcyclonus.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Looks like Cyclonus was Bombshell. Neener neener.]]
After the Decepticons lost the Great War and [[Maximal|Maximals]] and [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]] claimed [[Cybertron (planet)|the planet]], [[Megatron (BW)|another Megatron]] subjugated nearly every Transformer alive with a transformation-lock virus and an army of [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicons]]. Skywarp was one of the handful of Transformers who had slipped through Megatron's fingers, and eventually he and [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] joined up with the legendary strike team, the [[Wrecker|Wreckers]]. Given a mission by the [[Vector Sigma|Oracle]], the Wreckers fought through an army of Vehicons to steal an Autobot shuttle in order to get off-planet. {{storylink|Departure}}

{{note|Though no reason is stated in-story as to how or why or when Skywarp got this new body between the Great War and the [[Beast Era]], ''Wreckers'' plotter [[Glen Hallit]] noted that Skywarp's body was based on a mass-production body type of its day, similar to Generation 1's [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]].}}

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{{storylink|Betrayal}} {{storylink|Disclosure}} {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

Under undisclosed circumstances, Skywarp betrayed his fellow Wreckers and joined [[Razorclaw (Universe)|Razorclaw]]'s [[Minions of Unicron]] during the [[Universe war|Universe conflict]]. During the final battle within the [[Pit]], he was defeated by [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] and [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]. {{storylink|Revelations Part 2}}

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
{{note|Events from the [[Keepers Trilogy]] novels are in italics.}}
Skywarp was one of Megatron's earliest recruits for the Decepticons, gathered to his inner circle after word spread about treachery in the [[Council of Elders]]. He served under the primary Decepticon faction for millennia, under Megatron and for a time under Shockwave in the Dark Ages. His teleporting power enabled him to get the best of [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] during [[The Fallen]]'s ceremony at the [[Well of All Sparks]]. {{storylink|War Within: The Dark Ages|The War Within: The Dark Ages}}

Skywarp was one of several Decepticon invaders on board the Ark when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while the Autobot ship was clearing an asteroid in the path of Cybertron.

In 2002, he was one of the Transformers who survived the disastrous launch of the sabotaged ''[[Ark II]]'', and was later captured and reprogrammed by arms dealer [[Lazarus|Adam "Lazarus" Rook]], who intended to rent out the services of the enslaved robots to various terrorist groups. After Megatron reactivated himself, he freed his Decepticon subordinates in order to put forward his plans to infect Earth with a metallic virus of doom. To pass the time while this happened, Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp busied themselves by tearing apart the Autobot Minicar team. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 3}}

Skywarp later participated in Megatron's attack on [[San Francisco]], where he followed Starscream's orders to maintain formation and drop cluster bombs on the Autobot giant [[Superion (G1)|Superion]], forcing the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] to split into their separate robot forms. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 4}}

Skywarp presumably stood watch over the defeated Autobots while Megatron tried to persuade [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] to help the Decepticons conquer Earth. After some human firefighters distracted the Decepticons long enough for Optimus Prime to free the Autobots, Skywarp was presumably beaten up and escaped when Superion sacrificed himself to stop a nuclear missile launched by rogue US General [[Robert Hallo]].

''When Megatron was kidnapped by the [[Keeper (species)|Keepers]], and Decepticon leadership was up for grabs, Skywarp began acting more serious and ambitious than his regular "lunatic prankster" persona would suggest. One of the few Decepticons who aggressively refused to follow Starscream in Megatron's absence, Skywarp teamed up with the [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] trio in an attempt to seize power for himself. He lured Starscream into leaving his new kingdom in [[Las Vegas]] and travelling to Hoover Dam. Once there, Skywarp challenged Starscream directly for leadership of the Decepticons. He failed miserably, however—Starscream dealt Skywarp severe damage using his [[Null-ray|null bolts]] at close range, then tossed his former wingman over the falls. Skywarp was in [[stasis lock]] for some time thereafter, and begrudgingly chose to serve under Starscream after his repair cycle aboard the ''Nemesis'' was completed. {{storylink|Hardwired}}''

''When [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] and his private army of humans attacked Las Vegas, along with [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], Skywarp was among the Decepticons who charged out to meet them in battle along the Strip. As Thundercracker and Soundwave kept the rampaging [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]'s attention, Skywarp prepared a delicious, under-handed sneak attack. Diving at Grimlock at full speed, Skywarp planned on unleashing his heat-seeking missiles at near point-blank range for maximum devastation. Luckily for Grimlock, the little Autobot Bumblebee was willing to sacrifice his functionality in order to keep the more powerful Autobot warrior in play, and took the full impact of the missiles at the last second. Enraged, Grimlock struck Skywarp with enough force to send him flying miles away into the desert, and out of the fight for the immediate future. ''

''Curiously, Skywarp chose NOT to leave Las Vegas with Megatron once the former Decepticon leader returned to Earth. Damaged after his time with the Keepers, Megatron lost a fight with Starscream and was forced to relinquish his leadership to the Aerospace Commander. Still, Megatron refused to serve under Starscream, and led a revolt of several Decepticons into exile. For whatever reason, Skywarp remained at Starscream's side until the Keepers attacked, possessing Starscream as a host body and caging the rest of the Decepticons still in Las Vegas inside a dome of impenetrable energy. Skywarp assumed command of the remaining Decepticons in Starscream's absence, and directed the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] into not attacking the dome directly as [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], but digging beneath the energy field to forge a tunnel they could exit through. He also made contact with Megatron's forces outside the city, and agreed to wait patiently until the time was right for all the Transformers to assault the Keepers as one. ''

''When the time came, Skywarp "allowed" his Decepticons to join forces with Megatron's, because it was the only "logical" thing to do. During the fight, he blasted the [[Bluestreak]]-Keeper with an explosive gamma radiation blast. The attack was effective, but proved moot when the Bluestreak-Keeper fused with the Starscream-Keeper, creating one massive and deformed robotic god figure. In the end, it was Optimus Prime and the power of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] which finally ended the war with the Keepers, diverting the force of a nuclear missile launched by the American government. In the aftermath, Starscream's scrap was salvaged and rebuilt, but Megatron chose to make Skywarp his new second-in-command for a time, mostly just to piss Starscream off. Still, Skywarp certainly saw it as the most "logical" thing to do. {{storylink|Annihilation}}''

''In Washington D.C., Megatron and the Decepticons stormed the White House to show their displeasure to the [[President of the United States|President]] for trying to wipe them out with a nuclear strike. Megatron assigned Skywarp to deal with the SWAT teams in the streets, then sent him into the skies to join Starscream in shooting down the air support called in by the military. Final tally—Starscream: 12, Skywarp: 5. Sometime later, Skywarp was present in the Nevada desert when the Autobots and Decepticons confronted the United States military. Thanks to their airborne tactics, Thundercracker and Skywarp did significant injury to the troops and survived the [[deconstructionite]] assault virtually unscathed. After the Keepers were finally defeated and Starscream had been restored to his normal irascible self, Megatron chose to restore the status quo and replaced Skywarp with Starscream as his second-in-command yet again. {{storylink|Fusion (novel)|Fusion}}''

{{note|Although it's hard to see how, the author(s) of the Keepers Trilogy may have confused Skywarp with Shockwave, or at least combined their roles and personalities into one character. Throughout the trilogy, Skywarp made repeated references to the "logical" course of action, and once made an oblique reference to his gift over the electromagnetic spectrum. Whether there was actual confusion involved, or if the pick-up writer [[David Cian]] was forcing Skywarp to fit a role once Dreamwave's comics made using Shockwave off-limits, is unknown.}}

When Shockwave arrived on Earth with his new army, he quickly disposed of Megatron and demanded loyalty from Skywarp and the others. Somewhat begrudgingly, they assented and accompanied him back to Cybertron. Back on their home planet, Skywarp and Thundercracker were amazed at what Shockwave had accomplished in their absence and were planning to sign on for the duration. {{storylink|Brothers' Burden}} After getting run down and beaten up by Optimus Prime on his way to Shockwave, though, the Seekers took an offer from Starscream and Soundwave to abandon the rising conflict on Cybertron and return to Earth for some good ol' fashioned looting. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}}

On Earth, Skywarp was part of Starscream's initial salvo against the Ark, a decoy to be deliberately taken prisoner in order to draw out the remaining Autobots where the newly reformatted [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] could get at them. {{storylink|Night of the Combaticons}} After decimating the Autobots' ranks, [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] freed the fallen Decepticons, and they were about ready to terminate their opponents when the awe-inspiring clone known as [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]] emerged from fold-space, looking to have words with Starscream. Sunstorm's "purifying light" induced an energon overload in their systems, knocking them into stasis lock. {{storylink|Black Sunshine}} Skywarp and the others remained Autobot prisoners until Starscream negotiated a deal for their release in exchange for his aid against Sunstorm. {{storylink|Skyfire (issue)|Skyfire}}

Skywarp fell back under Megatron's command once the former leader arrived on Earth and forced Starscream back under his thumb. {{storylink|The Route of All Evil}}

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===Devil's Due ''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers'' comics===
[[Image:GIJoevsTF1_Seeker.jpg|left|thumb|200px|]]
Skywarp was one of the Transformers reprogrammed to serve the terrorist organization [[Cobra]] and was, along with Thundercracker, rebuilt to transform into a [[Rattler]] aircraft in the process. Their first mission was to show off Cobra's power by assaulting a peace ceremony in [[Washington, D.C.]], and either Skywarp or Thundercracker was the first to reveal his robot mode to the shocked [[United States Air Force|Air Force]] before wrecking [[Ace]]'s jet with a single punch. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 1}}

When [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] undid Cobra's reprogramming of the Transformers, Skywarp waited on the runway in Rattler mode until [[Major Bludd]], unaware of the plane's true identity, decided to use him as his ticket off [[Cobra Island]]. Skywarp responded that he kinda felt like walking today, before crushing Bludd to death with his moving innards as he transformed. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 4}} He then joined Thundercracker in fighting [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], who had also been freed from Cobra's control. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 5}} Unfortunately, the two Seekers were later caught in the [[SPS Satellite]]'s rain of energy beams and deactivated. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 6}}

{{note|As Skywarp's coloration is identical to Thundercracker's in this series, it's possible that it was actually Thundercracker who killed Major Bludd. However, the action seems more like something Skywarp would do.}}
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===IDW comics continuity===
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Skywarp, [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] were early recruits for [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], helping sow terror across Cybertron and kidnap Senator [[Decimus]] just prior to the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] and founding of the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3}} At one point he was part of a squad intent on assassinating [[Zeta Prime]], but the plan was thwarted when [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] warned the Autobot leader (tackling Skywarp in the back on the way). {{storylink|Spotlight: Blurr}}

[[Image:Infiltration5 Skywarptotalled.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Skywarp learns what happens when he pushes Megatron down a flight of stairs.]]
In the modern era, Skywarp is part of a Decepticon infiltration unit that has operated covertly on [[Earth]] for at least four years, working to destabilize Earth's governing organizations and create global anarchy. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 3}} His alternate form is an [[wikipedia:F-22_Raptor|F-22 Raptor]] fighter jet, and his main job seems to be using his teleporting powers to transport his comrades to places.

Starscream assigned him and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] to destroy all traces of the [[Nebraska]] operation, but after demolishing the abandoned Nebraska command bunker, he was severely damaged by Megatron, who, unfortunately for Skywarp, had been inside at the time. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 5}} Megatron was apparently not one to hold grudges, and he soon had Skywarp repaired and functioning again, under the understanding that there would be no further second chances. {{storylink|Escalation issue 1}} While on a mission to destabilize Middle Eastern energy supplies, Skywarp confessed to Thundercracker that he believed Megatron had it in for all of them, especially himself, though his fellow Decepticon pointed out the fact that Megatron did have him repaired. {{storylink|Escalation issue 2}} Skywarp participated in the operation at [[Brasnya]] where he injured [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and evacuated Megatron before the Autobots could destroy him. {{storylink|Escalation issue 6}}

When [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] began his coup, he first contacted Skywarp in an effort to get a viable ally. Skywarp thought it was a big load of crap, but said that if Ramjet could get some results in one day, they'd talk. However, Skywarp did mention that he always "bets on the leader." This turned out to be a prudent decision. {{storylink|Spotlight: Ramjet}}

Skywarp was among the concerned Decepticons who feared that Megatron had lost all sense of reason when he deployed [[Sixshot]] on Earth. They conspired to bring Starscream back into the fold to talk some sense into their leader. {{storylink|Devastation issue 1}} Emboldened by Starscream's lone stand against the Reapers, the Decepticons attacked and eventually the alien invaders, with Skywarp participating in the destruction of their starship. {{storylink|Devastation issue 6}}

About a year later, Megatron had somehow regained Skywarp's confidence, and Skywarp assured Thundercracker that Megatron knew what he was doing when he created [[Insecticon swarm|three thousand twisted perversions of their own race]]. The Decepticons later lured Optimus Prime and his troops into a trap and utterly crushed them, with Skywarp ripping [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]]'s arm clean off. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7}} They proceeded to conquer [[New York City]]. During that attack, Skywarp got to make stuff go boom and kill a lotta folks, and it was the best day out ever. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 1}}

After taking out several military helicopters, Skywarp was assigned to accompany Soundwave, Hook and Astrotrain as they took Frenzy to deal with a large ground force. [[Hook (G1)|Hook]] voiced his doubt that the tiny Decepticon had a chance against such a huge number of enemies, but Skywarp, enjoying a chance for a dig at the new guy, simply told him to make sure he kept his distance. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 2}} All the fun of smashing things and killing millions of people soon soured though, as Skywarp started clashing with the [[Insecticon (G1)|uppity Insecticons]] and getting lonely now Thundercracker was being mopey and Starscream wasn't around much. Even mindlessly killing eight million people in [[China]] couldn't perk him up. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 6}}

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===''Hearts of Steel''===
Skywarp listened to Starscream discussing his plans for conquering Earth and was ordered to fly ahead of the [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], leading the way towards [[New York City]]. His altmode is the same as Starscream's one-engine-per-wing body. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 2}}

{{note|There's no evidence in the story that Skywarp actually ''did'' fly ahead of Astrotrain, but if it's true, he may have survived the Decepticon defeat unharmed.}}
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===3D Battle-Card Game===
Skywarp serves under [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] as one of his Decepticon soldiers, battling [[Optimus Primal]]'s many Autobot allies in what might possibly have been an inter-universe battle. {{storylink|3D Battle-Card Game#Energon Wars expansion|Energon Wars Expansion Set}}
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==Commercial appearances==
Skywarp's history of [[commercial]] appearances includes:

* The very first Transformers animation, a commercial for [[The Transformers (issue)|Issue #1]] of Marvel's ''[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|The Transformers]]'' comic book. On Earth, he flies across the desert with Starscream and Thundercracker to attack a power plant.

* He is briefly seen battling in the desert against Hot Rod, Kup and Blurr, until Cyclonus and Scourge (!!) swoop in to counterattack.

* Skywarp attacks an Autobot power station along with Thrust and Starscream in a commercial for Ultra Magnus.

* He can be very briefly glimpsed swooping into battle alongside Galvatron (!!) on Earth in a subsequent commercial for [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and Galvatron.

[[Image:LiveActionJazz-Skywarp01.jpg|right|200px|thumb|I bet he spiked the punch.]]

* Along with his original Seeker wingmates, he gets barreled over by the Dinobots in a commercial for the Predacons.

* A commercial for Transformers reflective iron-on patches advertised the "[[Prizes in Disguise]]" competition. When the [[iron-on patch]] was used, it was possible to find instead an instant win ticket for a Transformers voice changer (of the [[Enemy]] variety)—or to have a party with "life-size" Transformers! Among the "life-size" Transformers shown were [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and Skywarp. In all likelihood, you did not party with them.

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1-toy SkywarpCommSeries.jpg|right|300px|thumb|The Commemorative Series retooled Skywarp. Robot mode... that's okay. Jet? Not so much.]]
* '''Skywarp''' (Decepticon Jet, 1984/1985/2001/2003/2008)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''23'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 missile launchers, 2 missiles, 2 "Machine Guns", 2 wings (left & right), 2 rudders (left & right), 2 tailfins (left & right), 2 fists (left & right), front landing gear

: The only 1984 [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] with a deco not used previously in [[Takara]]'s ''[[Diaclone]]'' line, Skywarp transforms into an [[wikipedia:F-15_Eagle|F-15 Eagle]] fighter jet, sharing his mold with his teammates [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] and [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]. Many parts need to be removed completely for transformation from robot to jet and back, which nowadays is considered a major drawback of the toy. It is rare to find it complete, as neither mode can hold all the pieces required. There are a few minor mold variations of this toy (common for the first two years of ''Transformers'', really), the most immediately noticeable being that early versions did not have visible "clip-tabs" on the inner face of the gauntlets.

: [[:Image:Redeco.jpg|Early Hasbro stock photos of Skywarp]] show him with a plastic purple nosecone. This was changed to a soft, black rubber nosecone when the toy was actually released. However, a [http://tfarchive.com/toys/articles/toypics/mex_skywarp.jpg Mexican variant] retained the purple plastic nosecone. The same stock photos also show him with purple launchers with black triggers and muzzle rings, black feet, black shins, black outer arm panels, purple horizontal stabilizers, and both sets of purple missiles. These stock photos were also later used to promote Takara's 2001 reissue.

: In 2001, Skywarp was given a short-run reissue (limited to only 1,000 pieces) by Takara as a convention-[[exclusive]] item, bundled together with Thundercracker as "[[Collector's Edition]]" Set C. The toy would later be more extensively released in 2003 as part of [[Hasbro]]'s [[Commemorative Series]] series IV, though due to US [[For safety reasons|toy-safety regulations]], his missiles were made extra-long since his spring-loaded launchers were now fully-functional.

: In August, 2008, Skywarp was released with Thundercracker as number 11 in Takara's [[Transformers Encore]] line. For this release Skywarp's Decepticon symbols were painted and his purple stickers were changed to a much bluer shade of purple. Curiously, Skywarp's wing stripes in this release are factory-applied stickers, instead of the [[tampograph]]s on his two-pack buddy.

: This mold was [[Redeco|redecoed]] into [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]] and retooled to make [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], and [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]].

:For some reason, the stats on Skywarp's, Starscream's and Thundercracker's [[tech specs]] were switched around. Skywarp's box was given Starscream's numbers, which explains his high intelligence and rank. The actual specs intended for this toy, but accidentally given to Thundercracker, are presented here. Hasbro's Commemorative Series Skywarp reissue had his bio rewritten to explain his higher stats.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Skywarp/skywarp.htm More information on Skywarp at TFU.info]''

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===Machine Wars===
[[Image:MWSkywarp.jpg|right|300px|thumb|After his near-fatal encounter with the Invert Colors function.]]
* '''Skywarp''' (Basic, 1997)
**''Accessories:'' 2 rifle halves
: Sharing a mold once again with [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], Skywarp transforms into a white [[wikipedia:Rafale|Dassault Rafale]] fighter jet with spring-loaded one-step transformation from jet to robot. The two halves of his rifle store in his lower legs. Like all ''[[Machine Wars]]'' toys, Skywarp was an [[exclusive]] to Kay-Bee stores and related stores like Toy Liquidators.

: This mold is also used by ''[[Beast Wars II (toyline)|Beast Wars II]]'' [[Dirge (BWII)|Dirge]], ''[[Robots in Disguise (toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Skyfire (RID)|Skyfire]], ''[[Robot Masters (franchise)|Robot Masters]]'' [[Wingstun]] and ''[[Timelines (fiction)|Timelines]]'' [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]].

::*[http://www.tfu.info/1997/Decepticon/Skywarp/skywarp.htm ''More information on ''Machine Wars'' Skywarp at TFU.info'']

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===Universe (2003)===
[[Image:TFU03-toy Skywarp.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Like [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]], except he can fly.]]
* '''Skywarp''' (Deluxe, 2003)
**''Accessories:'' 2 missiles

:''[[Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' Skywarp is a redeco of ''[[Beast Machines (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] in his Generation 1 colors. He transforms into a Cybertronic fighter jet, armed with two spring-loaded projectile launchers that can fire orange "energon" bolts. These launchers end up in his arms in robot mode. He has a third robot mode that collapses the legs around the cockpit (oh hush), with flip-out panels revealing an extra pair of thrusters. His [[spark]] crystal, revealed by flipping the purple hatch on his back, has a Decepticon [[insignia]] [[tampograph]]ed on top of it.

:Skywarp was also used to make ''Beast Machines'' [[Sonic Attack Jet]], ''Robots in Disguise'' [[Storm Jet (RID)|Storm Jet]], and ''Robots in Disguise'' [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Decepticon/Skywarp/skywarp.htm More information on Universe Skywarp at TFU.info]''

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===Smallest Transforming Transformers===
* '''Skywarp''' (2003)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''GTF X-1'''

: ''[[Smallest Transforming Transformers]]'' Skywarp was a very small-scale simplification of the original Generation 1 Seeker toy, retaining most of its functionality and accessories, except for his long null-rays. Skywarp was one of two [[Chase figure|chase figures]] from the first wave of the line.

: This mold was redecoed from Starscream, then re-redecoed into Thundercracker, and finally retooled to make Thrust.

::*[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Destron/SmallestSkywarp/skywarp.htm ''More information on ''Smallest Transforming Transformers'' Skywarp at TFU.info'']

===Robot Masters===
[[Image:RMSkywarp toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Now with the proper articulation for down-stair-pushing.]]
* '''Skywarp & Thundercracker''' (Multi-pack, 2005)
**''Accessories:'' 2 "Machine Guns"

: ''[[Robot Masters (franchise)|Robot Masters]]'' Skywarp is a redeco of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] from the same series, a smaller yet more advanced version of the original toy, adding more articulation and reducing the amount of [[Partformer|part-forming]] required. He was available only in a two-pack with Thundercracker, which also came with a Decepticon sigil pin and chromed missile pods. This set was the very last product released in the ''Robot Masters'' line and wasn't even strictly sold in a box from that series; instead, it used an [[e-Hobby]] ''Generation 1'' reissue box, with a small ''Robot Masters'' sticker in the corner tab noting its origin from the front.

::*[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Destron/Skywarp/skywarp.htm ''More information on ''Robot Masters'' Skywarp at TFU.info'']

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===Classics (2006)===
[[Image:Class06-toy Skywarp.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Ultra Magnus isn't pictured because he was just pushed-well, you know.]]
* '''Ultra Magnus vs Skywarp: Battle For Autobot City''' (Multi-pack, 2006)
**''Accessories:'' Left & right missile launchers, 2 missiles

: ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' Skywarp is a slight retool of the ''Classics'' Starscream mold, transforming into an [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes|F-15 Eagle fighter jet]], though with a canopy like that of an [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes|F-14 Tomcat]]. He comes with a pair of spring-loaded missile launchers that can be mounted on his biceps or used as hand-held weapons in robot mode and can attach under his wings in vehicle mode. As with most ''Classics'' toys, he also features a heat-sensitive [[rubsign]].

: Skywarp was slightly [[Retool|retooled]] from the earlier Starscream figures. The retool is present in the jet intake area. The slope of his shoulders was decreased from Starscream's, and a rectangle added to the vertical area, making the number now five instead of four. This retooled version was used for all subsequent releases of the mold: ''Classics'' [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], and [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], as well as [[Acid Storm]] from ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]''. At the end of ''Classics'' Starscream's production run, he too used this version of the mold.

: He was only available as part of a Target stores [[exclusive]] two-pack with [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]. The set's price was $19.99, despite including both a Voyager-class and Deluxe-class mold in it, which was approximately $30 worth of toys if they'd been sold separately. He was also available in Woolworth stores throughout the United Kingdom.

: [[:Image:Classics Skywarp toy.jpg|Stock photos of ''Classics'' Skywarp]] showed a more detailed color scheme than the actual released figure. Much like ''Classics'' Ultra Magnus, the changes were most likely due to an overabundance of [[Paint application|paint applications]]. This more detailed version was shown at [[BotCon 2006]] and at least one sample found its way to a collector's hands. The sample also used the original Starscream mold, and not the retooled version used for every version of the mold since and even including Starscream.

::*[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Decepticon/ClassicsSkywarp/skywarp.htm ''More information on ''Classics'' Skywarp at TFU.info'']

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===Masterpiece===
* '''Masterpiece Skywarp''' (2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MP-6'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 "Machine Guns", 2 AIM missile racks, Doctor Arkeville pilot, Megatron Gun clasp, display stand

[[Image:MP-6 Skywarp.jpg|200px|thumb|Takara finally remembered what colors the Seekers are supposed to be.]]
: ''[[Masterpiece]]'' Skywarp was released in Japan in September of 2007. He is a redeco of the Masterpiece Starscream mold in black, gray, silver, and purple, though the purple and silver are more minimal than usual. Skywarp is able to switch between a minimally retooled stoic face and a new snarly face, retooled from Starscream's previous smirk. The tiny [[Doctor Arkeville]] pilot figurine (this time molded black) is also included, as well as a clasp for jet-mode Skywarp to hold the gun-mode Megatron that came with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Masterpiece Convoy/20th Anniversary Optimus Prime]].

[[Image:MPSkywarp stickers.jpg|200px|left|thumb|Sadly, no stair-pusher sticker.]]
: The sticker sheet includes Skywarp-esque stripes, as well as several whimsical squadron markings.

:The second pressing of Masterpiece Skywarp (released in October 2008) features an assembly error: his left and right pectorals are flipped. This misassembly does not affect transformation at all, and is really only noticeable when compared to prior Masterpiece Seekers. The September 2007 pressing of Masterpiece Skywarp is assembled correctly. Masterpiece Thundercracker is misassembled as well.

::*[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Destron/Skywarp/skywarp.htm ''More information on ''Masterpiece'' Skywarp at TFU.info'']

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===Attacktix===
*'''Skywarp'''

: Skywarp was among the planned ''Transformers [[Attacktix]]'' game pieces that were showed at some conventions, but went unreleased as the line was canceled. He was to be a missile-type piece, sculpted in jet mode with a giant underslung missile launcher.

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===Titanium Series===
[[Image:Titanium-toy WWSkywarp.JPG|right|300px|thumb|]]
*'''War Within Skywarp''' (San Diego Comic-Con 2008 exclusive)

: [[Titanium Series]] ''[[War Within]]'' Skywarp is a redeco of Thundercracker, transforming into a Cybertronian "tetrajet" as reimagined by [[Don Figueroa]]. As with all 6-inch Titanium Cybertron Heroes, he is constructed mostly of fully painted die-cast metal. He was available only at [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] after the Titanium line had already been cancelled, and also Hasbro Toy Shop's booth at [[wikipedia:San_Diego_Comic-Con|San Diego Comic-Con]] 2008.

: This mold was also used to make ''War Within'' Starscream, Sunstorm and Thrust.

::*[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/SDCCSkywarp/skywarp.htm ''More information on ''Titanium'' Skywarp at TFU.info'']

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===Henkei! Henkei!===
[[Image:Henkei Skywarp.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Skywarp grabbed the wrong launchers.]]
*'''Skywarp''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' 2 missile launchers (left and right), 2 missiles

: ''[[Henkei! Henkei! (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' Skywarp is a redeco of ''Henkei! Henkei!'' [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]]. He features a colour scheme similar to his ''Generation 1'' cartoon appearance. ''Henkei'' Skywarp and his fellow [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] ''Henkei! Henkei!'' [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] were released in September, 2008 as an exclusive through Toy Hobby Market.

:Soon after release, there were numerous complaints from both Japanese and Western collectors about the poor quality control for both Thundercracker and Skywarp. Skywarp's most common fault was missing paint for one of his shoulders. Some reported both toys suffering misassembly issues such as having two left or two right thighs.

:Several minor changes were made to this mold for this release. The holes for his missile launchers in his arms were widened, as were the launcher's insertion pegs. The wing's missile launcher insertion points were lengthened and are now curved at the end. The last rectangle on his air intakes, was further modified from the [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] version this time the bottom most rectangle goes completely across the air intake's surface rather than just the center. Henkei [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' Starscream also saw most of these changes.

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===Universe (2008)===
*'''Masterpiece Skywarp''' (2009)
**''Accessories:'' 2 "Machine Guns", 2 AIM missile racks, Doctor Arkeville pilot, Megatron Gun clasp, display stand
: A Wal-Mart exclusive redeco of the Takara version, featuring a more G1 toy styled scheme, down to having G1 toy styled striping and yellow eyes rather than the cartoon inspired striping and red eyes. His purple more closely matches that of the original toy than the purple used on the Takara version, and features a lighter flat black, like the original toy, instead of Takara's darker glossy black. The Hasbro version replaces some of the dark gray of the Takara version with a dark silver, removes the arm and chest striping, but adds additional red detailing, while removing some as well. Much like Hasbro's Starscream, he does not feature any of the warning or slogan tampographs, but features tampographed striping, Decepticon symbols, and some additional paint details not present on the Takara version.
:Most notably it uses the two Masterpiece Starscream faces rather than those of the Takara Skywarp due to the fact that Hasbro felt Starscream's smirk face fit him more than Takara Skywarp's snarl.
:Just like Starscream, Skywarp is able to switch between stoic face and smirking face. The tiny Doctor Arkeville pilot figurine (molded in black with no paint applications) is also included, as well as a clasp for jet-mode Skywarp to hold the gun-mode Megatron that came with Masterpiece Convoy/20th Anniversary Optimus Prime and a stand (featuring Skywarp's name) with a support beam for jet or robot mode.

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==Merchandise==
===Decoy===
* '''Skywarp''' (1986)

: ''[[Decoy]]'' Skywarp is a tiny, purple, soft-rubber figurine randomly packed with smaller toys at the time. To differentiate him from Starscream and Thundercracker, Skywarp is sculpted holding his arms above his head in a cheering pose.

===Heroes of Cybertron===
* '''Skywarp''' (2002)

: Released in the first wave of the ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' line, Skywarp was a non-transforming action figure [[redeco]]ed (of course) from ''Heroes of Cybertron'' Starscream. As with the rest of the line, Skywarp was composed of transparent red plastic that was entirely painted over, giving him "light-up" eyes.

:The Japanese [[Super Collection Figure|SCF]] version was to be limited to 200 pieces and was one of two prizes offered from the original run of the ''[[Transformers Generations]]'' book (the other being a mostly clear reissue Starscream, distinct from the Ghost Starscream version). Due to the bankruptcy of the ''Transformers: Generations'' publisher, Keibunsha, it is unknown whether the Japanese version of Skywarp was ever actually sent out.

* '''Skywarp''' (2003)

: Same as the American version above, but part of an [[OTFCC 2003]]-exclusive six-pack of figures which also included Starscream, Thundercracker, and three [[Air Warrior]]s. It featured a more metallic paint job from the normal release and slightly different paint details.{{fact}}

===Legends of Cybertron===
* '''Skywarp''' (2004, unreleased)

[[Image:OTFCCSkywarp.jpg|thumb|Doesn't so much teleport as not exist in the first place.]]

: A redeco of ''Mega Super Figure Collection'' G1 Starscream (minus the extra coronation accessories, open-palm hands, and the hand wielding Megatron in gun mode), Skywarp was to be among the first of the fan club exclusives offered by [[The Official Transformers Collectors Convention|OTFCC]] as well as the first in their ''Legends of Cybertron'' line. The figure was delayed and never saw a full release due to [[3H Productions|3H Enterprises]] losing the license to run the official Transformers fan club. At least a couple of sample versions were produced.

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===Palisades===
* '''Skywarp''' (Palisades, 2005)

[[Image:PalisadesSkywarp.jpg|thumb|Decepticon on a stick! Get yer Decepticon on a stick!]]

:A ''SmallBluePlanet''-exclusive redeco of the Starscream statue, Skywarp is a six inch tall polystone statue with articulated head and arms. He can stand normally or use a stand to take on a "hovering" pose. Skywarp was limited to 300 pieces, and sculpted by [[3L Creation Group]] from a design by [[George Tremarco]].

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===Robot Heroes===
* '''Decepticon Sneak Attack''' (2007)

[[Image:Robot Hero Skywarp.jpg|right|120px|thumb|Clearly just after shoving Starscream down a flight of stairs.]]
: Skywarp is one of the five exclusive figures in Wal-Mart's "Decepticon Sneak Attack" set, alongside [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], [[Mirage (G1)|holographic Mirage]] and "Supermetal Finish" versions of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. He's a black and purple redeco of Starscream, yes. His left hand's for pushing you down stairs, his right fist's for pumping the air in victory. Sweet, sweet stair-based victory.

{{-}}

===3D Battle-Card Game===
*'''Skywarp''' (2007)

: A 25-point "uncommon" character in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]'s "Energon Wars" expansion, Skywarp "transforms" into a black and purple jet. He uses the same parts layout as [[Transformers (2007)|Movie]] [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]].

==Trivia==
* Skywarp's one-line characterization in the original Transformers [[production bible]] was "sneaky but dumb". Hee hee. [http://tfarchive.com/cartoons/bible/#034] In a more peculiar note, his longer write-up in the production bible noted that he was colored olive drab. [http://tfarchive.com/cartoons/bible/#038] This error isn't as unusual as one might first think, as Skywarp was the only first-year jet whose colors didn't originate in ''[[Diaclone]]''—thus, they simply may not have been decided upon when the production bible was written.

[[Image:Skywarpatron.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Skywarp really DID need close supervision.]]
* In a possible fit of madness, a triple changer was proposed that would switch between Skywarp (possibly mistaken for Starscream), [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], and Skywarp's jet mode.

* Character bios written by unknown persons for the Australian (Madman) DVD release of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' definitely claim that [[Cyclonus (G1)|Skywarp became Cyclonus]]. Basically, nobody considers that weighty "evidence".

* Skywarp is the only Seeker with wing stripes that are not red.

* For such a popular character, Skywarp doesn't DO much of anything in the original show.

* [[Skywarp_%28G1%29#Machine_Wars|Despite]] [[Skywarp_%28G1%29#Classics_.282006.29|many]] [[Skywarp_%28G1%29#Heroes_of_Cybertron|releases]], [[Skywarp_%28G1%29#Titanium_Series|Skywarp]] [[Skywarp_%28G1%29#Henkei.21_Henkei.21|is]] [[Skywarp_%28G1%29#Universe_.282008.29|usually]] [[Skywarp_%28G1%29#Robot_Heroes|an]] [[Skywarp_%28G1%29#Generation_1_2|exclusive.]]

==External links==
* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Skywarp Skywarp's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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Talk:Snaptrap (SG)

2009-11-17T02:07:20Z

207.181.17.24: New page: This a posting here: http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55636&st=20 M Sipher says he was supposed to be colored like the Timelines toy, but there was last minute coloring i...

This a posting here: http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55636&st=20 M Sipher says he was supposed to be colored like the Timelines toy, but there was last minute coloring issues. If he appears again he will be in Timelines colors. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 21:07, 16 November 2009 (EST)

Talk:Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)

2009-11-17T02:04:42Z

207.181.17.24: /* Drench */

I see we're listing these by size class, which makes sense, but in Shattered Glass they're not called Mini-Cons, they're called Micromasters. I guess it's not a big deal, but it seems kind of funny to list them here as Mini-Cons. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 18:51, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
:I didn't know they where called Micromasters I just assumed that they where called Mini-Cons as that's what they're based of. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 02:09, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

== Section order ==

I'd like to suggest that we can move the Decepticon section above the Autobot section, just like [[Shattered Glass (issue)#Featured characters|this]]. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 02:51, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:Done. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 02:55, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

== Micromasters ==

Now I don't know how to do it correctly noting that they're based off Mino-Cons, as a reference on just one character it seems a little odd and unclean, as trivia it kinda works but that's kinda too low, under the actual Micromasters headline it'S kinda pointless and repetitive given that we have that section 4 times. So how should we handle this? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 09:36, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:The trivia note looks fine to me. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 12:20, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

== Redecos ==

Um, why shouldn't we list the potential redecos? We state right in the intro that "Quite a few additional Shattered character designs are based on existing toys/characters with new color schemes, meaning they potentially could be manufactured some day, or recreated by enterprising kitbashers," so why shouldn't we list what existing toys those potential schemes are based on, for the sake of giving readers information? The whole toyline is mostly virtual anyway, in that there's only a small handful of officially sold SG-branded toys, so anything we add beyond that is unrelated to real world brands anyway. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 11:06, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:Well... 'cause those toys don't actually exist, would seem like a pretty good reason to me. A short note that some characters are based on certain toys and color schemes is not the same as a complete list of these non-existent things! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 11:10, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:But it's still a toyline, even if it's a virtual one the toys in this article exist the ones you listed don't exist. The whole point of this article is to give people a resource of which SG characters have a toy that exists and not of what might happen in the future. If they want to make an SG character that doesn't have a toy, they can visit his character page. It's like listing [[Landslide (Decepticon)]] and his different colours in the Cybertron toyline article as potential toys. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 11:13, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
::I guess it just seems like... the only officially-branded toys in the brand are the BotCon toys, so anything else is completely unofficial regardless in terms of retail brands; it's only official in the fiction's canon "toyline". So I guess it seems picky to me to choose which already unofficial additions are official enough.
::It seems to me like a "These toys exist but their specific SG decoes do not" list is a perfectly good Trivia note, at the very least.
::Now, if we were dealing with a fully official toyline with only retail-branded toys listed, then I would agree with you. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 11:24, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Listing the toys one can actually buy seems plenty fine enough. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:30, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Well, you can buy the base of the redecoed toys too, you just have to repaint them yourself for the moment. ;)
::::I guess I just find it a rather silly distinction when almost the entire toyline is unofficial in terms of retail anyway, but if everyone else doesn't mind leaving useful information out, so be it I guess. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 11:51, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

:::::The repurposings ''are'' official, though, insofar as they're extant toys designated by the authors of licensed fiction as SG characters. They're official product, named by official licensees. "Potential repaints" lacks the "official product" part... and again, they're toys that ''don't exist''. There's really not much difference between saying SG Strafe is G1 Strafe with Blot's colors, and making a list of custom paint alterations to make some movie character more fiction-accurate or providing instructions on how to kitbash your own Emirate Xaaron. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 12:06, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::Sure there is. The movie characters have officially-branded retail toys separate from their fictional look, and Xaaron doesn't have any toy base at all, even fiction-designated.
::::::Whereas here, the BotCon toys so far are the only officially-branded retail SG toys. With every other entry, sure the existing toys are official product... but for ''other'' toylines. Calling them "Shattered Glass" toys is a purely fiction-based thing. So if you're already willing to include one set of toys that's only designated in the canon fiction with no official retail brand support, it just seemed a little odd to not include all of them, was my train of thought. *shrug* --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:25, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::I would like to thank Jeysie here for reminding me why I don't like to make certain widespread changes due to the threat of Slippery Slope. Seriously. This course of action will end in Yikes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:44, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::I think the difference is as follows. If some canon story comes out and casts [[Emirate Xaaron]] as a [[Primus#Generation_1_2|gold lucky-draw Rodimus Prime]] figure, then that becomes, retroactively, a VERY expensive official Emirate Xaaron toy. If, on the other hand, a fictional story casts Emirate Xarron as a gold, say, G1 Hot Rod toy, it's a different matter. There is no official gold Hot Rod toy, so that would mean that we'd at most have a trivia note. Saying that it could potentially exist if we were to paint it seems silly, and a slippery slope to boot. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:47, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::I'd actually be fine with the list just being a Trivia note if that's the way it goes.
:::::::::But, basically, something like the movie's toyline is designated by official product, since we've determined elsewhere that the toys take precedence for organizational purposes. Therefore it doesn't matter if the fiction gives them a different color, other than a trivia note.
:::::::::Whereas, for instance, sure, Gigant Bomb exists officially... as Gigant Bomb, that is. The toy does not exist as Shattered Glass Darkwind in terms of an officially-released toyline. That toy's status as that character is based solely in the fiction.
:::::::::If we're really that worried about sticking to existing toyline, then the only toys on the list should be the BotCon toys and any future specifically-branded releases. Any additions outside of that means we're already OK with fiction-based SG toy designations.
:::::::::If people feel unreleased decoes aren't important enough to be included, so be it. I just don't see anything ''illogical'' about my train of thought, however.

:::::::::As for the "slippery slope" argument, I've noticed that people here do have a bad tendency to think that any proposed deviation from the rules automatically means that deviation must be applied across the board if allowed. Sometimes it really is just a matter of one particular situation having some specific quirkiness that needs to be worked around, with no obligation to apply the workaround elsewhere that the existing rules work just fine. There's no "widespread changes" being made here at all, just a bend for this one property that's very odd across the board to begin with. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:35, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

==Alpha Trion==
An attempt to put a footnote highlighting Alpha Trion's oddity (his original release wasn't announced as being Shattered Glass, has a bio that is far from explicit about being this character, and has a red Autobot symbol) was deleted on the grounds that Alpha Trion's own page details this information. I'm not at all convinced that that's enough. I'm fine for him to be listed as "official" here (and not "a new kind of repurposing" as his own article suggests), but there should be a footnote. (My apologies for making that original footnoote while not logged in. I didn't realize that I wasn't at the time.)--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 14:24, 11 November 2009 (EST)
:Of course that should be noted on this page! So what if his own page details this? Sometimes the same information belongs in multiple articles. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:51, 11 November 2009 (EST)
::Sure the ''details'' go on his page, but ''something'' needs to go on this one (even if it's just a "see individual page for details" note). [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:54, 11 November 2009 (EST)

==Seacons==
Didn't Pete or some other Fun Pub official say that the Club Seacons were the Shattered Glass colors officially, even if they havn't appeared in any fiction yet? [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:37, 16 November 2009 (EST)
: They showed up in Shattered Expectations as the Club colors, but I don't recall Pete or anybody else saying anything about Shattered Glass proper. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:44, 16 November 2009 (EST)
::I found it, but it's not horribly solid. M Sipher makes comments on how if they did make a future appearance in SG they would be in club colors here: http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55636&st=20 [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:55, 16 November 2009 (EST)

==Drench==
G2 Drench as SG Drench? That's a toy for the Vitrual toy line back in 1993. I don't think EYE COLOR being different can be a good reason to claim this isn't a repurposed toy. Eye color changed from artist to artist, and heck, they could just be red because he's a evil zombie in his one illustration. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:55, 16 November 2009 (EST)

Talk:Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)

2009-11-17T02:01:40Z

207.181.17.24: /* Drench */

I see we're listing these by size class, which makes sense, but in Shattered Glass they're not called Mini-Cons, they're called Micromasters. I guess it's not a big deal, but it seems kind of funny to list them here as Mini-Cons. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 18:51, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
:I didn't know they where called Micromasters I just assumed that they where called Mini-Cons as that's what they're based of. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 02:09, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

== Section order ==

I'd like to suggest that we can move the Decepticon section above the Autobot section, just like [[Shattered Glass (issue)#Featured characters|this]]. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 02:51, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:Done. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 02:55, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

== Micromasters ==

Now I don't know how to do it correctly noting that they're based off Mino-Cons, as a reference on just one character it seems a little odd and unclean, as trivia it kinda works but that's kinda too low, under the actual Micromasters headline it'S kinda pointless and repetitive given that we have that section 4 times. So how should we handle this? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 09:36, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:The trivia note looks fine to me. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 12:20, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

== Redecos ==

Um, why shouldn't we list the potential redecos? We state right in the intro that "Quite a few additional Shattered character designs are based on existing toys/characters with new color schemes, meaning they potentially could be manufactured some day, or recreated by enterprising kitbashers," so why shouldn't we list what existing toys those potential schemes are based on, for the sake of giving readers information? The whole toyline is mostly virtual anyway, in that there's only a small handful of officially sold SG-branded toys, so anything we add beyond that is unrelated to real world brands anyway. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 11:06, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:Well... 'cause those toys don't actually exist, would seem like a pretty good reason to me. A short note that some characters are based on certain toys and color schemes is not the same as a complete list of these non-existent things! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 11:10, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:But it's still a toyline, even if it's a virtual one the toys in this article exist the ones you listed don't exist. The whole point of this article is to give people a resource of which SG characters have a toy that exists and not of what might happen in the future. If they want to make an SG character that doesn't have a toy, they can visit his character page. It's like listing [[Landslide (Decepticon)]] and his different colours in the Cybertron toyline article as potential toys. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 11:13, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
::I guess it just seems like... the only officially-branded toys in the brand are the BotCon toys, so anything else is completely unofficial regardless in terms of retail brands; it's only official in the fiction's canon "toyline". So I guess it seems picky to me to choose which already unofficial additions are official enough.
::It seems to me like a "These toys exist but their specific SG decoes do not" list is a perfectly good Trivia note, at the very least.
::Now, if we were dealing with a fully official toyline with only retail-branded toys listed, then I would agree with you. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 11:24, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Listing the toys one can actually buy seems plenty fine enough. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:30, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Well, you can buy the base of the redecoed toys too, you just have to repaint them yourself for the moment. ;)
::::I guess I just find it a rather silly distinction when almost the entire toyline is unofficial in terms of retail anyway, but if everyone else doesn't mind leaving useful information out, so be it I guess. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 11:51, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

:::::The repurposings ''are'' official, though, insofar as they're extant toys designated by the authors of licensed fiction as SG characters. They're official product, named by official licensees. "Potential repaints" lacks the "official product" part... and again, they're toys that ''don't exist''. There's really not much difference between saying SG Strafe is G1 Strafe with Blot's colors, and making a list of custom paint alterations to make some movie character more fiction-accurate or providing instructions on how to kitbash your own Emirate Xaaron. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 12:06, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::Sure there is. The movie characters have officially-branded retail toys separate from their fictional look, and Xaaron doesn't have any toy base at all, even fiction-designated.
::::::Whereas here, the BotCon toys so far are the only officially-branded retail SG toys. With every other entry, sure the existing toys are official product... but for ''other'' toylines. Calling them "Shattered Glass" toys is a purely fiction-based thing. So if you're already willing to include one set of toys that's only designated in the canon fiction with no official retail brand support, it just seemed a little odd to not include all of them, was my train of thought. *shrug* --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:25, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::I would like to thank Jeysie here for reminding me why I don't like to make certain widespread changes due to the threat of Slippery Slope. Seriously. This course of action will end in Yikes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:44, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::I think the difference is as follows. If some canon story comes out and casts [[Emirate Xaaron]] as a [[Primus#Generation_1_2|gold lucky-draw Rodimus Prime]] figure, then that becomes, retroactively, a VERY expensive official Emirate Xaaron toy. If, on the other hand, a fictional story casts Emirate Xarron as a gold, say, G1 Hot Rod toy, it's a different matter. There is no official gold Hot Rod toy, so that would mean that we'd at most have a trivia note. Saying that it could potentially exist if we were to paint it seems silly, and a slippery slope to boot. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:47, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::I'd actually be fine with the list just being a Trivia note if that's the way it goes.
:::::::::But, basically, something like the movie's toyline is designated by official product, since we've determined elsewhere that the toys take precedence for organizational purposes. Therefore it doesn't matter if the fiction gives them a different color, other than a trivia note.
:::::::::Whereas, for instance, sure, Gigant Bomb exists officially... as Gigant Bomb, that is. The toy does not exist as Shattered Glass Darkwind in terms of an officially-released toyline. That toy's status as that character is based solely in the fiction.
:::::::::If we're really that worried about sticking to existing toyline, then the only toys on the list should be the BotCon toys and any future specifically-branded releases. Any additions outside of that means we're already OK with fiction-based SG toy designations.
:::::::::If people feel unreleased decoes aren't important enough to be included, so be it. I just don't see anything ''illogical'' about my train of thought, however.

:::::::::As for the "slippery slope" argument, I've noticed that people here do have a bad tendency to think that any proposed deviation from the rules automatically means that deviation must be applied across the board if allowed. Sometimes it really is just a matter of one particular situation having some specific quirkiness that needs to be worked around, with no obligation to apply the workaround elsewhere that the existing rules work just fine. There's no "widespread changes" being made here at all, just a bend for this one property that's very odd across the board to begin with. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:35, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

==Alpha Trion==
An attempt to put a footnote highlighting Alpha Trion's oddity (his original release wasn't announced as being Shattered Glass, has a bio that is far from explicit about being this character, and has a red Autobot symbol) was deleted on the grounds that Alpha Trion's own page details this information. I'm not at all convinced that that's enough. I'm fine for him to be listed as "official" here (and not "a new kind of repurposing" as his own article suggests), but there should be a footnote. (My apologies for making that original footnoote while not logged in. I didn't realize that I wasn't at the time.)--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 14:24, 11 November 2009 (EST)
:Of course that should be noted on this page! So what if his own page details this? Sometimes the same information belongs in multiple articles. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:51, 11 November 2009 (EST)
::Sure the ''details'' go on his page, but ''something'' needs to go on this one (even if it's just a "see individual page for details" note). [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:54, 11 November 2009 (EST)

==Seacons==
Didn't Pete or some other Fun Pub official say that the Club Seacons were the Shattered Glass colors officially, even if they havn't appeared in any fiction yet? [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:37, 16 November 2009 (EST)
: They showed up in Shattered Expectations as the Club colors, but I don't recall Pete or anybody else saying anything about Shattered Glass proper. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:44, 16 November 2009 (EST)
::I found it, but it's not horribly solid. M Sipher makes comments on how if they did make a future appearance in SG they would be in club colors here: http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55636&st=20 [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:55, 16 November 2009 (EST)

==Drench==
G2 Drench as SG Drench? That's a toy for the Vitrual toy line back in 1993. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:55, 16 November 2009 (EST)

Talk:Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)

2009-11-17T01:55:18Z

207.181.17.24: /* Seacons */

I see we're listing these by size class, which makes sense, but in Shattered Glass they're not called Mini-Cons, they're called Micromasters. I guess it's not a big deal, but it seems kind of funny to list them here as Mini-Cons. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 18:51, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
:I didn't know they where called Micromasters I just assumed that they where called Mini-Cons as that's what they're based of. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 02:09, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

== Section order ==

I'd like to suggest that we can move the Decepticon section above the Autobot section, just like [[Shattered Glass (issue)#Featured characters|this]]. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 02:51, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:Done. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 02:55, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

== Micromasters ==

Now I don't know how to do it correctly noting that they're based off Mino-Cons, as a reference on just one character it seems a little odd and unclean, as trivia it kinda works but that's kinda too low, under the actual Micromasters headline it'S kinda pointless and repetitive given that we have that section 4 times. So how should we handle this? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 09:36, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:The trivia note looks fine to me. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 12:20, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

== Redecos ==

Um, why shouldn't we list the potential redecos? We state right in the intro that "Quite a few additional Shattered character designs are based on existing toys/characters with new color schemes, meaning they potentially could be manufactured some day, or recreated by enterprising kitbashers," so why shouldn't we list what existing toys those potential schemes are based on, for the sake of giving readers information? The whole toyline is mostly virtual anyway, in that there's only a small handful of officially sold SG-branded toys, so anything we add beyond that is unrelated to real world brands anyway. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 11:06, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:Well... 'cause those toys don't actually exist, would seem like a pretty good reason to me. A short note that some characters are based on certain toys and color schemes is not the same as a complete list of these non-existent things! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 11:10, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:But it's still a toyline, even if it's a virtual one the toys in this article exist the ones you listed don't exist. The whole point of this article is to give people a resource of which SG characters have a toy that exists and not of what might happen in the future. If they want to make an SG character that doesn't have a toy, they can visit his character page. It's like listing [[Landslide (Decepticon)]] and his different colours in the Cybertron toyline article as potential toys. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 11:13, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
::I guess it just seems like... the only officially-branded toys in the brand are the BotCon toys, so anything else is completely unofficial regardless in terms of retail brands; it's only official in the fiction's canon "toyline". So I guess it seems picky to me to choose which already unofficial additions are official enough.
::It seems to me like a "These toys exist but their specific SG decoes do not" list is a perfectly good Trivia note, at the very least.
::Now, if we were dealing with a fully official toyline with only retail-branded toys listed, then I would agree with you. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 11:24, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Listing the toys one can actually buy seems plenty fine enough. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:30, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Well, you can buy the base of the redecoed toys too, you just have to repaint them yourself for the moment. ;)
::::I guess I just find it a rather silly distinction when almost the entire toyline is unofficial in terms of retail anyway, but if everyone else doesn't mind leaving useful information out, so be it I guess. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 11:51, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

:::::The repurposings ''are'' official, though, insofar as they're extant toys designated by the authors of licensed fiction as SG characters. They're official product, named by official licensees. "Potential repaints" lacks the "official product" part... and again, they're toys that ''don't exist''. There's really not much difference between saying SG Strafe is G1 Strafe with Blot's colors, and making a list of custom paint alterations to make some movie character more fiction-accurate or providing instructions on how to kitbash your own Emirate Xaaron. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 12:06, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::Sure there is. The movie characters have officially-branded retail toys separate from their fictional look, and Xaaron doesn't have any toy base at all, even fiction-designated.
::::::Whereas here, the BotCon toys so far are the only officially-branded retail SG toys. With every other entry, sure the existing toys are official product... but for ''other'' toylines. Calling them "Shattered Glass" toys is a purely fiction-based thing. So if you're already willing to include one set of toys that's only designated in the canon fiction with no official retail brand support, it just seemed a little odd to not include all of them, was my train of thought. *shrug* --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:25, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::I would like to thank Jeysie here for reminding me why I don't like to make certain widespread changes due to the threat of Slippery Slope. Seriously. This course of action will end in Yikes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:44, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::I think the difference is as follows. If some canon story comes out and casts [[Emirate Xaaron]] as a [[Primus#Generation_1_2|gold lucky-draw Rodimus Prime]] figure, then that becomes, retroactively, a VERY expensive official Emirate Xaaron toy. If, on the other hand, a fictional story casts Emirate Xarron as a gold, say, G1 Hot Rod toy, it's a different matter. There is no official gold Hot Rod toy, so that would mean that we'd at most have a trivia note. Saying that it could potentially exist if we were to paint it seems silly, and a slippery slope to boot. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:47, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::I'd actually be fine with the list just being a Trivia note if that's the way it goes.
:::::::::But, basically, something like the movie's toyline is designated by official product, since we've determined elsewhere that the toys take precedence for organizational purposes. Therefore it doesn't matter if the fiction gives them a different color, other than a trivia note.
:::::::::Whereas, for instance, sure, Gigant Bomb exists officially... as Gigant Bomb, that is. The toy does not exist as Shattered Glass Darkwind in terms of an officially-released toyline. That toy's status as that character is based solely in the fiction.
:::::::::If we're really that worried about sticking to existing toyline, then the only toys on the list should be the BotCon toys and any future specifically-branded releases. Any additions outside of that means we're already OK with fiction-based SG toy designations.
:::::::::If people feel unreleased decoes aren't important enough to be included, so be it. I just don't see anything ''illogical'' about my train of thought, however.

:::::::::As for the "slippery slope" argument, I've noticed that people here do have a bad tendency to think that any proposed deviation from the rules automatically means that deviation must be applied across the board if allowed. Sometimes it really is just a matter of one particular situation having some specific quirkiness that needs to be worked around, with no obligation to apply the workaround elsewhere that the existing rules work just fine. There's no "widespread changes" being made here at all, just a bend for this one property that's very odd across the board to begin with. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:35, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

==Alpha Trion==
An attempt to put a footnote highlighting Alpha Trion's oddity (his original release wasn't announced as being Shattered Glass, has a bio that is far from explicit about being this character, and has a red Autobot symbol) was deleted on the grounds that Alpha Trion's own page details this information. I'm not at all convinced that that's enough. I'm fine for him to be listed as "official" here (and not "a new kind of repurposing" as his own article suggests), but there should be a footnote. (My apologies for making that original footnoote while not logged in. I didn't realize that I wasn't at the time.)--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 14:24, 11 November 2009 (EST)
:Of course that should be noted on this page! So what if his own page details this? Sometimes the same information belongs in multiple articles. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:51, 11 November 2009 (EST)
::Sure the ''details'' go on his page, but ''something'' needs to go on this one (even if it's just a "see individual page for details" note). [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:54, 11 November 2009 (EST)

==Seacons==
Didn't Pete or some other Fun Pub official say that the Club Seacons were the Shattered Glass colors officially, even if they havn't appeared in any fiction yet? [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:37, 16 November 2009 (EST)
: They showed up in Shattered Expectations as the Club colors, but I don't recall Pete or anybody else saying anything about Shattered Glass proper. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:44, 16 November 2009 (EST)
::I found it, but it's not horribly solid. M Sipher makes comments on how if they did make a future appearance in SG they would be in club colors here: http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55636&st=20 [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:55, 16 November 2009 (EST)

==Drench==
G2 Drench as SG Drench? That's a toy for the Vitrual toy line back in 1993? [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:55, 16 November 2009 (EST)

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B'Boom

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{{faction|maximal}}

:''B'Boom is a [[Maximal]] from the [[Beast Wars]] portion of the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:IDW BBoom.jpg|right|220px|thumb|"You see.... He lives in YOU."]]

'''B'Boom''' is a militaristic and fierce fighter. Unfortunately, he is prone to wild fits of over-energized rage. He's a clever and skilled fighter in combat though, and a dedicated Maximal, so his allies tend to ignore his bad attitude and occasional tantrum.

His most lethal mode is his battle platform. His favorite weapon is the missile launcher hidden in his beast mode mouth. These pulse missiles harm his opponents but not the valuable wilderness.

:''French-Canadian name:'' '''Baboum'''
:''Italian name:'' '''Mandrillo'''

==Fiction==
===3H comics===
[[Image:Bboomomegapoint.jpg|left|200px|thumb|It's the ciiiiiiiiiiiiircle of death...]]
During the final battle with [[Shokaract]], several realities converged into a single, apocalyptic timestorm. Beast Warriors from alternate realities emerged, including B'Boom, [[Drill Bit (BW)|Drill Bit]], [[Transquito]], [[Air Hammer]], [[Cybershark]], [[Polar Claw]] and unidentified others, though all of them were summarily defeated. {{storylink|Terminus}}
{{-}}

===IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics===
B'Boom was a one of the [[protoform]]s to be protected by [[Razorbeast]]'s viral code, allowing him to remain a Maximal. He joined up with Razorbeast fairly early but was easily the most suspicious of Razorbeast and his motives due to the fact he had no evidence to back up his claim and he screamed Predacon to his sensor net. In the fight to get the [[Transwarp Amplifier]] from [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]]'s downed Transwarp Cruiser B'Boom was thrashed by [[Magmatron]] but had to make do without a [[CR chamber]]. {{storylink|The Gathering issue 2|The Gathering #2}}

{{charstubfiction}}

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
[[Image:BW BBoom toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|He'll drill YOU, man.]]
*'''B'Boom''' (Mega, 1997)
**''Accessories'': Launcher rifle, 2 missiles

: B'Boom transforms into a metallic-blue mandrill. His beast mode face has spring-activated features, with a revealed spring-loaded missile launcher in his mouth. This launcher becomes a hand-held weapon in robot mode. He has a third "artillery station" mode that a Basic-sized toy can "pilot", with pull-out (non-firing) blaster cannons.

: This toy was released in Japan as [[Apache]].

{{-}}

==Notes==
*IDWs Beast Wars Sourcebook identified B'Boom as a [[Triple Changer]], despite not having that official title until then.

==External links==
*[http://tfu.info/1997/Maximal/B%27Boom/b%27boom.htm B'Boom at TFU.info]

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[[Category:Maximals]]
[[Category:Triple Changers]]

Bigmos

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{{factions|maximal}}
:''Bigmos is an [[Insectron]] from the [[Beast Wars II (franchise)|Beast Wars II]] portion of the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:BigMosStandee.jpg|right|300px|thumb|We can only hope he didn't shelfwarm as much as Transquito.]]
'''Bigmos''' (ビッグモス ''Biggumosu'') is the leader of the [[Insectron]] forces. After many years of war on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], he chose to leave with a group of his friends and search the galaxy for a safe haven from the fighting. He is a very solemn warrior who deeply desires peace. He also has a great sense of honor. In a battle with the [[Autoroller]] named [[Autostinger]] on Cybertron, he was beaten and at the Predacon’s mercy. Instead of killing Bigmos, Autostinger granted him mercy and allowed him to live. To this day he still owes a debt of gratitude to the Autoroller. As leader, Bigmos is easily the most level-headed member of the Insectrons. Which is kinda like being the sanest patient in the asylum.

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
====''Beast Wars II'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Takeshi Watanabe]] (Japanese)

{{charstubfiction}}

====''Beast Wars Neo'' cartoon====
===''Beast Wars II'' comic===
===IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics===
Bigmos has gone into semi-retirement, and serves as a stabilising influence on the council, despite both balking authority and having a tendency to ignore orders.

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
*'''Bigmos''' (Mega, 1997)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''C-17'''
**''Accessories'': Missile

: A [[redeco]] of the Predacon [[Transquito]], Bigmos transforms into an organic mosquito. In this mode, a push-switch on his back makes his insect wings slide back and forth. His insect-mode proboscis is actually a spring-loaded missile that fires from his mouth in robot mode.

: He has a third mode, forming kind of an antlion. Its oversized mandibles are formed by unfolding his wings; the "flapping" gimmick from mosquito mode makes the mandibles close down on victims.

*'''Bigmos VS Autostinger''' (VS pack, 1997)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''VS-17'''

: Bigmos was also made available in a two-pack with [[Autostinger]]. Both toys were identical to their individual releases.

==Notes==
*Given the inherent ambiguities of the Japanese Katakana that makes up Bigmos's name, there exists the (very remote) outside possibility that his name is actually "Big Moth".
*IDWs Beast Wars Sourcebook identified Bigmos as a [[Triple Changer]], despite not having that official title until then.

==External links==
* [http://tfu.info/1998/Cybertron/BigMos/bigmos.htm Bigmos] at TFU.info

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[[Category:Beast Wars Neo characters]]
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Triple Changer

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:''The Triple Changers are Transformers that are mostly from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:5 blitzwing new world order.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Blitzwing demonstrates his triple-changing abilities, transforming from an ''incredibly'' unconvincing jet into a tank that's only ''slightly'' unconvincing.]]
In their quest for ever-greater machines of war, the [[Decepticon]]s developed warriors with two distinct alternate forms. These '''Triple Changers''' can travel by land and air with equal ease, and in the heat of battle they can rapidly change form to confuse and outflank the enemy. To counter this threat, the [[Autobot]]s also developed their own group of Triple Changers.

The Triple Changers are:

{{collist|2|
* Decepticons:
** [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]
** [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]
** [[Octane]]

* Autobots:
** [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]]
** [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]]
** [[Springer (G1)|Springer]]
}}

{{note|In Transformers fiction, the term "Triple Changer" refers almost exclusively to these two subgroups, which are the only such characters ever shown as cohesive teams. However, other official sources such as toy packaging, catalogs, Hasbro spokespersons, and commercials have applied the term "Triple Changer" rather haphazardly to many other characters from various continuities. Further muddying the waters, a few characters with three distinct modes have never been labeled as Triple Changers in toys or fiction, even in cases where it would really make sense to do so.}}

:''Japanese name (Autobots):'' '''Triplebot'''
:''Japanese name (Decepticons):'' '''Tripletron'''
:''Hungarian name'': '''Triplaváltozók'''

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon===
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
{{noteukonly}}

[[Image:Ratbatcratercritters.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Didja ever wonder what guys like Astrotrain do if they have an itch in the middle of their back? That's gotta ''suck'' for 'em. There is ''no way'' he can reach back there.]]

''The Decepticon Triple Changers existed for an unknown length of time, and Octane and Blitzwing developed a reputation as two of Cybertron's deadliest killers: key targets in [[Operation: Volcano]]. {{storylink|Target: 2006}} The deadly killer Octane would later oversee a slave camp and run away screaming from Autobots.'' {{storylink|Resurrection!}}

The Decepticon Triple Changers were called into service by Ratbat when a freighter that he had sent to Earth failed to make contact upon its arrival. The three Triple Changers traveled to Earth via space bridge and located the crashed freighter at the bottom of an impact crater. They quickly discovered that the pilot had become infected with [[scraplet]]s...which immediately infected ''them'' as well. Despite the rapidly spreading disease, they were happy to attack two Autobots who arrived to investigate the crater. One of the Autobots fled, while the other proved to be a fair match for the trio. {{storylink|Crater Critters}}

Eventually, they overpowered and captured [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], taking him prisoner. Astrotrain contacted Ratbat on Cybertron, requesting a cure. Instead, Ratbat dispatched a group of captured Autobots with orders to destroy all the infected Transformers on Earth with canisters of acid...including his own troops! Weakened by the disease, the Triple Changers could do little but sit around in the crater and wait for the end to come, whether by acid melting or scraplet consumption.

Luckily for the Triple Changers, the other Autobot, Goldbug, had managed to find a cure for the disease. Though Blaster demanded that Goldbug kill him along with the Decepticons rather than curing them, Goldbug's hand was forced the other way when the scraplets merged into a titanic combined form. He sprayed [[water|the cure]] on all the crater's occupants, including the Decepticons. Quickly recovering, the Triple Changers rallied to the attack, bringing down the combined scraplet monster with their weapons. Subsequently, they grabbed the cargo of the crashed freighter and made good their escape. {{storylink|The Cure!}}

The Triple Changers subsequently joined the main force of Decepticons on Earth, initially under Shockwave's command, then later Ratbat's. They participated in the great battle against the Autobots on the Moon {{storylink|Totaled!}}, played host to human guests at [[Club Con]] {{storylink|Club Con!}}, and battled Scorponok's forces in the Arctic, a battle in which they fared particularly well. {{storylink|Cold War!}} They didn't fare so well against the Underbase-powered Starscream, however, who slaughtered all three of them in a single blast.

''During the [[Earthforce]] conflict of... er, whenever it was, the Triple Changers would serve under [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. {{storylink|The Bad Guy's Ball!}} Their great highlights were helping beat the snot out of Megatron {{storylink|Secrets}} and joining the massed attack on Autobot Earthbase. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer!}} Their lowlight was Octane getting stuck on a military firing range while full of fuel, and Astrotrain and Blitzwing leaving him behind out of annoyance. {{storylink|Manoeuvres!}}

In a dystopian future, they served under Galvatron and killed [[Crossblades (G1)|Crossblades]]. {{storylink|Rhythms of Darkness!}}

[[Image:Triplechangerstarget2006.jpg|thumb|right|250px| ]]

''The Autobot Triple Changers first came to prominence in the days leading up to [[Operation: Volcano]]; they were called into service by [[Emirate Xaaron]] to fill in for Ultra Magnus, should the latter not return from Earth in time to participate in the mission. They convinced the Wreckers' leader, [[Impactor]], that they would be up to the challenge by beating the stuffing out of him before rocketing back to the Autobot base, [[Debris]]. When Impactor was killed in the aborted mission, Triple Changer Springer took over as Wrecker leader, with the other two becoming part of the force as well.'' {{storylink|Target: 2006}}

''The Triple Changers participated in several of the Wreckers' missions on Cybertron {{storylink|City of Fear!}} and Earth. {{storylink|Wrecking Havoc}} After the latter mission turned into a near-disaster, Sandstorm and Broadside were sent to Earth along with Inferno as an advance guard.'' {{storylink|Firebug!}} {{storylink|Cold Comfort and Joy!}}

''They were still with the Wreckers during the catastrophic battle against Megatron and Galvatron, which saw Sandstorm destroyed. Broadside and Springer survived {{storylink|Time Wars}}, eventually going on to form the Survivors group {{storylink|Survivors!}} and later hooking up with Grimlock's [[Earthforce]]'' {{storylink|Wolf in the Fold!}}.

''In a possible future, Springer and Sandstorm would be two of the last Autobots when the war ended in 2510. [[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]] made Springer his successor, only for fighting to break out over it; Sandstorm fired the second shot, killing [[Triton]].'' {{storylink|Peace}}

====Generation 2====
Broadside was part of a team of "Firestormers" that raided various Decepticon outposts across the galaxy. {{storylink|War Without End!}} Springer, meanwhile, had apparently joined Optimus Prime's main force of Autobots and participated in a counter-Decepticon raid on [[Ethos]] {{storylink|Escalation!}} as well as the final battle against the Swarm on Earth. {{storylink|A Rage in Heaven!}}

Octane was also present in the conflict, but [[Death|not for long]]. {{storylink|Total War!}}

===Dreamwave Comics===
[[Image:BlitzwingDissectionDreamwave.jpg|right|200px|thumb|This detailed, scientific cut-away view reveals that underneath all that armor, Blitzwing is... made of mechanical stuff.]]

Triple Changers Blitzwing, Octane and Astrotrain were involved in Decepticon battle operations around the time that Optimus Prime rose to command the Autobots. They participated in a major attack on Iacon. {{storylink|The War Within issue 3}}

Later, Blitzwing spontaneously began to grow new parts, perhaps heralding his evolution into a Triple Changer. Yes, we know this makes no sense. {{storylink|Recipe for Hate}}

{{note|As a Triple Changer, the subject can change between modes three times as fast as a normal Transformer.}}

===IDW Comics===
Astrotrain and Blitzwing were part of Starscream's [[Infiltration protocol|Infiltration Unit]] on Earth. {{storylink|Infiltration}} They survived attacks by the [[Reaper]]s and Autobots before the Autobots were driven from the planet. {{storylink|Devastation (IDW)}} When the Autobots returned with Omega Supreme, the Decepticons retreated into space, ferried by Astrotrain. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron}}
{{note|Broadside, [[Octane|Tankor]] and [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] are in this continuity but it's unknown if they are Triple-Changers.}}

{{-}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:Blitzwingg1toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|In a line cut from The Transformers: The Movie, Blitzwing says that as a Triple Changer, he's worth any two of his comrades. But it turns out that he retailed for a bit less than the Seekers.]]
* '''Decepticon Triple Changers''' (1985)
**[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]
**[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]

* '''Autobot Triple Changers''' (1986)
**[[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]]
**[[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]]
**[[Springer (G1)|Springer]]

* '''Decepticon Triple Changers''' (1986)
**[[Octane]]

:The original Triple Changers were released in the second year of Generation 1, and were sufficiently popular to inspire 4 more in 1986.

===Classics===
* Astrotrain (2006)

===Universe (2008)===
* [[Octane|Tankor]]
: Octane with a new name.

{{note|This list includes only toys that actually have three modes. Several of the Triple Changer characters have had later releases in other toy molds, most notably Sandstorm and Springer, but these forms lacked the third mode required to qualify as Triple Changers.}}

===Subsequent toys labeled as "Triple Changers"===
;Generation 1
* [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] (called a "Headmaster Triple Changer base" in a commercial and in "[[Doomsday for Nebulos]].")

;Generation 2
* [[Dreadwing (G2)|Dreadwing]] (1994)
: The bomber/tank/robot describes himself as "triple-changing Dreadwing" in a television [[commercial]]. Another commercial has the announcer saying "Dreadwing is a Triple Changer."

;Beast Wars
[[Image:BW-toy Depthcharge.jpg|thumb|250px|right|[[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]]: a triple-changing [[Transmetal]] from the ''[[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'']]
* [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]] (1998)
* [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] (1998)
:Although the packaging says "3 mode conversion", the commercial announcer says that each of these characters "triple changes".

;Armada
[[Image:Armada Laserbeak toy.jpg|thumb|250px|right|The only Triple Changer from [[Armada (franchise)|''Armada'']]: [[Laserbeak (Armada)|Laserbeak]]]]
* [[Laserbeak (Armada)|Laserbeak]] (2002)

;Energon
* [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]] (2004)
* [[Shockblast (Energon)|Shockblast]] (2004)

;Cybertron
* [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] (2005)
* [[Anti-Blaze]] (2006)
* [[Checkpoint (Cybertron)|Checkpoint]] (2006)
* [[Scythe]] (2006)
* [[Scourge (Cybertron)|Cryo Scourge]] (2006)
* [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]] (2006)

;Animated
* [[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] (2008)

;Revenge of the Fallen
[[Image:Soundwaverotfpreviewtoy.jpg|thumb|250px|right|Triple-changing [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], superior!]]
* [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] (2009)
* [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] (2009)
* [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]<ref>Megatron was identified as a Triple Changer in [[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe]] and was shown with two alternate modes in [[Revenge of the Fallen Movie Adaptation]]. He did not display this ability in [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|the film]] or [[Megatron (Movie)/toys|his toys]].</ref> (2009)
;Unreleased
* ''[[Dropshot (Armada)|Dropshot]]''
* [[Jet-helicopter Decepticon|A helicopter/plane Triple Changer]]
*ATB Megatron (called a Triple Changer by a Hasbro pitch man.)

===Retroactively labeled as Triple Changers===

* Dreamwave's ''[[More Than Meets The Eye (G1)|More Than Meets The Eye]]'' profile book series identifies [[Apeface]] and [[Snapdragon]] as Triple Changers.

* Dreamwave's ''[[More Than Meets The Eye (Armada)|More Than Meets The Eye: Armada]]'' book labels [[Over-Run (Armada)|Over-Run]] as a Triple Changer, also stating that other Mini-Cons with a third mode are Triple Changers.

* IDW's ''[[Beast Wars Sourcebook]]'' labels [[Bigmos]] and [[B'Boom]] as Triple Changers, but not the characters who share their molds.

==References==
<references/>

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[[Category:Energon]]
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Triple Changer

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:''The Triple Changers are Transformers that are mostly from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:5 blitzwing new world order.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Blitzwing demonstrates his triple-changing abilities, transforming from an ''incredibly'' unconvincing jet into a tank that's only ''slightly'' unconvincing.]]
In their quest for ever-greater machines of war, the [[Decepticon]]s developed warriors with two distinct alternate forms. These '''Triple Changers''' can travel by land and air with equal ease, and in the heat of battle they can rapidly change form to confuse and outflank the enemy. To counter this threat, the [[Autobot]]s also developed their own group of Triple Changers.

The Triple Changers are:

{{collist|2|
* Decepticons:
** [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]
** [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]
** [[Octane]]

* Autobots:
** [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]]
** [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]]
** [[Springer (G1)|Springer]]
}}

{{note|In Transformers fiction, the term "Triple Changer" refers almost exclusively to these two subgroups, which are the only such characters ever shown as cohesive teams. However, other official sources such as toy packaging, catalogs, Hasbro spokespersons, and commercials have applied the term "Triple Changer" rather haphazardly to many other characters from various continuities. Further muddying the waters, a few characters with three distinct modes have never been labeled as Triple Changers in toys or fiction, even in cases where it would really make sense to do so.}}

:''Japanese name (Autobots):'' '''Triplebot'''
:''Japanese name (Decepticons):'' '''Tripletron'''
:''Hungarian name'': '''Triplaváltozók'''

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon===
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
{{noteukonly}}

[[Image:Ratbatcratercritters.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Didja ever wonder what guys like Astrotrain do if they have an itch in the middle of their back? That's gotta ''suck'' for 'em. There is ''no way'' he can reach back there.]]

''The Decepticon Triple Changers existed for an unknown length of time, and Octane and Blitzwing developed a reputation as two of Cybertron's deadliest killers: key targets in [[Operation: Volcano]]. {{storylink|Target: 2006}} The deadly killer Octane would later oversee a slave camp and run away screaming from Autobots.'' {{storylink|Resurrection!}}

The Decepticon Triple Changers were called into service by Ratbat when a freighter that he had sent to Earth failed to make contact upon its arrival. The three Triple Changers traveled to Earth via space bridge and located the crashed freighter at the bottom of an impact crater. They quickly discovered that the pilot had become infected with [[scraplet]]s...which immediately infected ''them'' as well. Despite the rapidly spreading disease, they were happy to attack two Autobots who arrived to investigate the crater. One of the Autobots fled, while the other proved to be a fair match for the trio. {{storylink|Crater Critters}}

Eventually, they overpowered and captured [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], taking him prisoner. Astrotrain contacted Ratbat on Cybertron, requesting a cure. Instead, Ratbat dispatched a group of captured Autobots with orders to destroy all the infected Transformers on Earth with canisters of acid...including his own troops! Weakened by the disease, the Triple Changers could do little but sit around in the crater and wait for the end to come, whether by acid melting or scraplet consumption.

Luckily for the Triple Changers, the other Autobot, Goldbug, had managed to find a cure for the disease. Though Blaster demanded that Goldbug kill him along with the Decepticons rather than curing them, Goldbug's hand was forced the other way when the scraplets merged into a titanic combined form. He sprayed [[water|the cure]] on all the crater's occupants, including the Decepticons. Quickly recovering, the Triple Changers rallied to the attack, bringing down the combined scraplet monster with their weapons. Subsequently, they grabbed the cargo of the crashed freighter and made good their escape. {{storylink|The Cure!}}

The Triple Changers subsequently joined the main force of Decepticons on Earth, initially under Shockwave's command, then later Ratbat's. They participated in the great battle against the Autobots on the Moon {{storylink|Totaled!}}, played host to human guests at [[Club Con]] {{storylink|Club Con!}}, and battled Scorponok's forces in the Arctic, a battle in which they fared particularly well. {{storylink|Cold War!}} They didn't fare so well against the Underbase-powered Starscream, however, who slaughtered all three of them in a single blast.

''During the [[Earthforce]] conflict of... er, whenever it was, the Triple Changers would serve under [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. {{storylink|The Bad Guy's Ball!}} Their great highlights were helping beat the snot out of Megatron {{storylink|Secrets}} and joining the massed attack on Autobot Earthbase. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer!}} Their lowlight was Octane getting stuck on a military firing range while full of fuel, and Astrotrain and Blitzwing leaving him behind out of annoyance. {{storylink|Manoeuvres!}}

In a dystopian future, they served under Galvatron and killed [[Crossblades (G1)|Crossblades]]. {{storylink|Rhythms of Darkness!}}

[[Image:Triplechangerstarget2006.jpg|thumb|right|250px| ]]

''The Autobot Triple Changers first came to prominence in the days leading up to [[Operation: Volcano]]; they were called into service by [[Emirate Xaaron]] to fill in for Ultra Magnus, should the latter not return from Earth in time to participate in the mission. They convinced the Wreckers' leader, [[Impactor]], that they would be up to the challenge by beating the stuffing out of him before rocketing back to the Autobot base, [[Debris]]. When Impactor was killed in the aborted mission, Triple Changer Springer took over as Wrecker leader, with the other two becoming part of the force as well.'' {{storylink|Target: 2006}}

''The Triple Changers participated in several of the Wreckers' missions on Cybertron {{storylink|City of Fear!}} and Earth. {{storylink|Wrecking Havoc}} After the latter mission turned into a near-disaster, Sandstorm and Broadside were sent to Earth along with Inferno as an advance guard.'' {{storylink|Firebug!}} {{storylink|Cold Comfort and Joy!}}

''They were still with the Wreckers during the catastrophic battle against Megatron and Galvatron, which saw Sandstorm destroyed. Broadside and Springer survived {{storylink|Time Wars}}, eventually going on to form the Survivors group {{storylink|Survivors!}} and later hooking up with Grimlock's [[Earthforce]]'' {{storylink|Wolf in the Fold!}}.

''In a possible future, Springer and Sandstorm would be two of the last Autobots when the war ended in 2510. [[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]] made Springer his successor, only for fighting to break out over it; Sandstorm fired the second shot, killing [[Triton]].'' {{storylink|Peace}}

====Generation 2====
Broadside was part of a team of "Firestormers" that raided various Decepticon outposts across the galaxy. {{storylink|War Without End!}} Springer, meanwhile, had apparently joined Optimus Prime's main force of Autobots and participated in a counter-Decepticon raid on [[Ethos]] {{storylink|Escalation!}} as well as the final battle against the Swarm on Earth. {{storylink|A Rage in Heaven!}}

Octane was also present in the conflict, but [[Death|not for long]]. {{storylink|Total War!}}

===Dreamwave Comics===
[[Image:BlitzwingDissectionDreamwave.jpg|right|200px|thumb|This detailed, scientific cut-away view reveals that underneath all that armor, Blitzwing is... made of mechanical stuff.]]

Triple Changers Blitzwing, Octane and Astrotrain were involved in Decepticon battle operations around the time that Optimus Prime rose to command the Autobots. They participated in a major attack on Iacon. {{storylink|The War Within issue 3}}

Later, Blitzwing spontaneously began to grow new parts, perhaps heralding his evolution into a Triple Changer. Yes, we know this makes no sense. {{storylink|Recipe for Hate}}

{{note|As a Triple Changer, the subject can change between modes three times as fast as a normal Transformer.}}

===IDW Comics===
Astrotrain and Blitzwing were part of Starscream's [[Infiltration protocol|Infiltration Unit]] on Earth. {{storylink|Infiltration}} They survived attacks by the [[Reaper]]s and Autobots before the Autobots were driven from the planet. {{storylink|Devastation (IDW)}} When the Autobots returned with Omega Supreme, the Decepticons retreated into space, ferried by Astrotrain. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron}}
{{note|Broadside, [[Octane|Tankor]] and [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] are in this continuity but it's unknown if they are Triple-Changers.}}

{{-}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:Blitzwingg1toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|In a line cut from The Transformers: The Movie, Blitzwing says that as a Triple Changer, he's worth any two of his comrades. But it turns out that he retailed for a bit less than the Seekers.]]
* '''Decepticon Triple Changers''' (1985)
**[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]
**[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]

* '''Autobot Triple Changers''' (1986)
**[[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]]
**[[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]]
**[[Springer (G1)|Springer]]

* '''Decepticon Triple Changers''' (1986)
**[[Octane]]

:The original Triple Changers were released in the second year of Generation 1, and were sufficiently popular to inspire 4 more in 1986.

===Classics===
* Astrotrain (2006)

===Universe (2008)===
* [[Octane|Tankor]]
: Octane with a new name.

{{note|This list includes only toys that actually have three modes. Several of the Triple Changer characters have had later releases in other toy molds, most notably Sandstorm and Springer, but these forms lacked the third mode required to qualify as Triple Changers.}}

===Subsequent toys labeled as "Triple Changers"===
;Generation 1
* [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] (called a "Headmaster Triple Changer base" in a commercial and in "[[Doomsday for Nebulos]].")

;Generation 2
* [[Dreadwing (G2)|Dreadwing]] (1994)
: The bomber/tank/robot describes himself as "triple-changing Dreadwing" in a television [[commercial]]. Another commercial has the announcer saying "Dreadwing is a Triple Changer."
* ATB Megatron (called a Triple Changer by a hasbro representative when displayed)

;Beast Wars
[[Image:BW-toy Depthcharge.jpg|thumb|250px|right|[[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]]: a triple-changing [[Transmetal]] from the ''[[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'']]
* [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]] (1998)
* [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] (1998)
:Although the packaging says "3 mode conversion", the commercial announcer says that each of these characters "triple changes".

;Armada
[[Image:Armada Laserbeak toy.jpg|thumb|250px|right|The only Triple Changer from [[Armada (franchise)|''Armada'']]: [[Laserbeak (Armada)|Laserbeak]]]]
* [[Laserbeak (Armada)|Laserbeak]] (2002)

;Energon
* [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]] (2004)
* [[Shockblast (Energon)|Shockblast]] (2004)

;Cybertron
* [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] (2005)
* [[Anti-Blaze]] (2006)
* [[Checkpoint (Cybertron)|Checkpoint]] (2006)
* [[Scythe]] (2006)
* [[Scourge (Cybertron)|Cryo Scourge]] (2006)
* [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]] (2006)

;Animated
* [[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] (2008)

;Revenge of the Fallen
[[Image:Soundwaverotfpreviewtoy.jpg|thumb|250px|right|Triple-changing [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], superior!]]
* [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] (2009)
* [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] (2009)
* [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]<ref>Megatron was identified as a Triple Changer in [[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe]] and was shown with two alternate modes in [[Revenge of the Fallen Movie Adaptation]]. He did not display this ability in [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|the film]] or [[Megatron (Movie)/toys|his toys]].</ref> (2009)
;Unreleased
* ''[[Dropshot (Armada)|Dropshot]]''
* [[Jet-helicopter Decepticon|A helicopter/plane Triple Changer]]
*ATB Megatron (called a Triple Changer by a Hasbro pitch man.)

===Retroactively labeled as Triple Changers===

* Dreamwave's ''[[More Than Meets The Eye (G1)|More Than Meets The Eye]]'' profile book series identifies [[Apeface]] and [[Snapdragon]] as Triple Changers.

* Dreamwave's ''[[More Than Meets The Eye (Armada)|More Than Meets The Eye: Armada]]'' book labels [[Over-Run (Armada)|Over-Run]] as a Triple Changer, also stating that other Mini-Cons with a third mode are Triple Changers.

* IDW's ''[[Beast Wars Sourcebook]]'' labels [[Bigmos]] and [[B'Boom]] as Triple Changers, but not the characters who share their molds.

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Cybertron]]
[[Category:Energon]]
[[Category:Generation 1]]
[[Category:Gimmicks]]
[[Category:Subgroups]]
[[Category:Toys]]
[[Category:Triple Changers| ]]

Talk:Bludgeon (SG)

2009-11-12T02:15:08Z

207.181.17.24: New page: I propose changing the caption for the Bludgeon toy to something from Kid Rock's Cowboy. ~~~~

I propose changing the caption for the Bludgeon toy to something from Kid Rock's Cowboy. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 21:15, 11 November 2009 (EST)

User talk:Rosicrucian

2009-11-12T02:13:49Z

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== GoBox Templates ==

Just out of curiosity, what program would I need to be able to read .psd files? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:53, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
:Photoshop, or a Photoshop-ish program like GIMP. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 10:10, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
::Pretty much what the man said. It's a Photoshop format, but a number of graphics programs can read it these days.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 10:59, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
:::And to think I just happen to have GIMP on my computer. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:38, 16 September 2009 (EDT)

== New vandal needs ban ==

[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/72.237.248.5 This guy] Thanks. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 13:53, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

== Anon vandal guy ==

[[Special:Contributions/200.97.215.168|200.97.215.168]] needs to be dealt with. I already nominated his spam for speedy deletion. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 06:33, 1 November 2009 (EST)
:[[Grapple rotf|And here he goes again.]]. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:06, 1 November 2009 (EST)

==SG Bludgeon caption==
What is the caption you keep returning to SG Bludgeon, I don't recognize it as anything. I figures a nice Kid rock song quote would be more rcognizeable. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:27, 11 November 2009 (EST)
:It is wiki policy to revert when people are just changing other people's captions without adding content.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:50, 11 November 2009 (EST)
::Also, eyuw, Kid Rock. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:53, 11 November 2009 (EST)
:::Don't be hating on a Michigan boy. Besides, how is a retarded cowboy quote any good? Maybe I can find something from Ted Nugent for SG Carnivac (if he had a picture)...[[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 21:12, 11 November 2009 (EST)

User talk:Rosicrucian

2009-11-12T02:12:30Z

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== GoBox Templates ==

Just out of curiosity, what program would I need to be able to read .psd files? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:53, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
:Photoshop, or a Photoshop-ish program like GIMP. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 10:10, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
::Pretty much what the man said. It's a Photoshop format, but a number of graphics programs can read it these days.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 10:59, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
:::And to think I just happen to have GIMP on my computer. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:38, 16 September 2009 (EDT)

== New vandal needs ban ==

[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/72.237.248.5 This guy] Thanks. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 13:53, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

== Anon vandal guy ==

[[Special:Contributions/200.97.215.168|200.97.215.168]] needs to be dealt with. I already nominated his spam for speedy deletion. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 06:33, 1 November 2009 (EST)
:[[Grapple rotf|And here he goes again.]]. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:06, 1 November 2009 (EST)

==SG Bludgeon caption==
What is the caption you keep returning to SG Bludgeon, I don't recognize it as anything. I figures a nice Kid rock song quote would be more rcognizeable. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:27, 11 November 2009 (EST)
:It is wiki policy to revert when people are just changing other people's captions without adding content.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:50, 11 November 2009 (EST)
::Also, eyuw, Kid Rock. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:53, 11 November 2009 (EST)
:::Don't be hating on a Michigan boy. Besides, how is a retarded cowboy quote any good? Maybe I can find something from Ted Nugent for SG Catilla (if he had a picture)...[[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 21:12, 11 November 2009 (EST)

User talk:Rosicrucian

2009-11-12T02:12:02Z

207.181.17.24: /* SG Bludgeon caption */

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== GoBox Templates ==

Just out of curiosity, what program would I need to be able to read .psd files? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:53, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
:Photoshop, or a Photoshop-ish program like GIMP. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 10:10, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
::Pretty much what the man said. It's a Photoshop format, but a number of graphics programs can read it these days.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 10:59, 16 September 2009 (EDT)
:::And to think I just happen to have GIMP on my computer. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:38, 16 September 2009 (EDT)

== New vandal needs ban ==

[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/72.237.248.5 This guy] Thanks. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 13:53, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

== Anon vandal guy ==

[[Special:Contributions/200.97.215.168|200.97.215.168]] needs to be dealt with. I already nominated his spam for speedy deletion. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 06:33, 1 November 2009 (EST)
:[[Grapple rotf|And here he goes again.]]. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:06, 1 November 2009 (EST)

==SG Bludgeon caption==
What is the caption you keep returning to SG Bludgeon, I don't recognize it as anything. I figures a nice Kid rock song quote would be more rcognizeable. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:27, 11 November 2009 (EST)
:It is wiki policy to revert when people are just changing other people's captions without adding content.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:50, 11 November 2009 (EST)
::Also, eyuw, Kid Rock. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:53, 11 November 2009 (EST)
:::Don't be hating on a Michigan boy. Besides, how is a retarded cowboy quote any good? Maybe I can find something from Ted Nugent...[[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 21:12, 11 November 2009 (EST)

User talk:Rosicrucian

2009-11-12T01:27:48Z

207.181.17.24: /* Anon vandal guy */

Bludgeon (SG)

2009-11-12T01:13:21Z

207.181.17.24: Kid Rock quote is funnier.

{{factions|sgDecepticon}}
{{disambig3.5|the heroic Decepticon gunslinger who may or may not be a Pretender|his evil Pretender martial artist counterpart|Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon}}
:''Bludgeon is a heroic [[Decepticon]] from the [[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]] [[continuity family]].''
{{faceless}}
'''Bludgeon''' is the best dang sharpshooter on all of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]! Yee-Haw! He's recently become fascinated with [[Earth]]'s transmissions about their law-enforcement units, installing hip-holsters for his pistols and similar equipment in order to better emulate them. He's friends with [[Carnivac (SG)|Carnivac]], with whom he usually teams up during the [[Mayhem Suppression Squad]]'s missions.

{{TOCclear}}

==Fiction==
===''Shattered Glass''===
Bludgeon and the rest of the Mayhem Suppression Squad joined in the defense of the [[Arch-Ayr]] fuel dump. He and Carnivac took on [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] together, with Bludgeon hip-shooting Prime and Carnivac chewing on him. {{storylink|Dungeons & Dinobots}}

==Toys==
[[Image:RIDtoy-Bludgeon.jpg|right|thumb|300px|They call me Cowboy baby, with the top let back and the sunshine shining...]]
===Robots in Disguise===
*'''Bludgeon''' ([[Destructicon]], 2003)
**''Accessories'': Rifle, 2 missiles

: A [[redeco]] of the ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Hero|"Hero" Megatron]] mold, [[Bludgeon (RID)|Bludgeon]] transforms into an [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes#M1 Abrams|Abrams M1A1 assault tank]]. His main cannon uses an air-bladder to launch the hollow, rubber-tipped missiles he comes with. These missiles can be stored with pull-out clips on the sides of his turret, which become his robot-mode arms.

: He and his fellow Destructicon [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]] were [[exclusive]] to the [[KB Toys]] store chain, released under the ''[[Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]]'' banner long after the series had been replaced with ''[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'', which explains why they used the same packaging style.

: While his [[package art]] shows him having two separate eyes (like the original release of the figure as Megatron), the actual toy has its face painted red across its nose to connect the eyes to make a rather unevenly-leveled eye visor.

: This mold was also used to make [[Reverse Convoy]], and was later [[repurposing|repurposed]] as "Shattered Glass" Bludgeon.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Decepticon/Bludgeon/bludgeon.htm More information on Bludgeon at TFU.info]''

[[Category: Mayhem Suppression Squad]]
[[Category: Reassigned toys]]

Nemesis Prime (G1)

2009-11-12T01:11:33Z

207.181.17.24: Reason why this should be deleted?

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{disambig3.5|evil clones of Optimus Prime|the corrupted [[Dead Universe]] version of Nova Prime from the IDW comics|Nova Prime|Nemesis Prime}}
{{disambig2|the evil, sentient Optimus Prime clone|the mindless remote-control clone|Optimus Prime clone}}
:''Nemesis Prime is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:AltNemesisPrimeArt.jpg|right|300px|thumb|THIS, I COMMAND!]]
'''Nemesis Prime''' is the dark mirror of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], a [[Cloning|clone]] of the [[Autobot]] leader imbued with many of his abilities but lacking all moral restraint.

:''Japanese name:'' '''Black Convoy'''

==Fiction==
===''Alternators'' toy bio===
[[Doctor Arkeville]] spent years personally constructing Nemesis Prime piece by stolen piece, hiding his handiwork from both [[Concurrence]] agents and the Decepticons. Designed to be the ultimate military commander, he had arguably the mightiest [[Binaltech]] Transformer body ever constructed, but it remained without a life-force. Dr. Arkeville planned to acquire one by tapping into an amazingly powerful extra-spatial source that the Autobot Translink Project had uncovered. It is unknown whether this final step ever came to fruition.<ref>[http://tformers.com/article.php?sid=6142 Nemesis Prime's ''Alternators'' bio.] This was not on the toy's packaging, but rather distributed online to Transformers news sites to promote the figure's availability at San Diego Comic-Con. It was later confirmed to be the work of [[Hasbro]] copywriter Forest Lee.{{fact}}</ref>

{{note|This is the only known ''[[Alternators]]'' fiction. While it is clearly based on the ''[[Binaltech]]'' storyline, borrowing elements with no precedent in English-language canon, it differs from ''Binaltech's'' "Black Convoy" bio in some details and may be considered a separate continuity.}}

===''Binaltech'' toy bios===
Dr. Arkeville, seeking to create an evil leader greater than [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], used a subspace impulse cloner to duplicate Optimus Prime (with a snazzy black-and-teal paint job). It is unknown if Arkeville was aware of the [[Optimus Prime clone]] previously created by Megatron, but in any case the doctor's approach was somewhat different, as he wanted a sentient being, not a remote-controlled [[drone]]. To this end, Arkeville twisted Prime's imported essence to evil with a rewriting program, but the clone still lacked life. He experimented with a subspace linkup to channel a life force, but the operation was interrupted: A time warp suddenly appeared and produced a [[Spark|mysterious orb]] which touched the clone body, causing the clone to both activate and vanish.

Meanwhile, on [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]], the Autobots were enacting [[Operation: Distant Thunder]] to undo the changes that [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] had wrought upon the timeline. The Autobots had just send a drone into the past with the intent of restoring the corret timeline, expecting reality to change around them, returning to its proper state. Instead, the successful restoration of the correct flow of history caused their alternate timeline to become undone, as all of their reality was torn apart by warp holes. At that moment, Arkeville's clone appeared before them, extending his hands as an orb of light engulfed first the island, then the entire world. The warp holes were extinguished, and the clone announced that it had used the power of the spark that now inhabited it to preserve the "Binal-Time" that the Autobots inhabited. The Autobots continued questioning this "Black Optimus," who explained that he was a spark who had been sent back in time from the distant future, referring to himself only as "the [[Optimus Primal|Protector]]". His mission was to preserve the Binaltechs, as their existence would, in the future, bring about the [[Alternity (species)|Alternity]], a "great existence" involving beings who would ensure prosperity and protection across the multiverse.

When these explanations were done, the clone's core AI suddenly asserted itself, and he began taunting the Autobots, even manifesting a Decepticon symbol on his body. Using what remained of the Protector's power, the clone rejected his foreign spark and formed a warp portal back to Arkeville's lab. Reduced to an automated state, the clone still was able to leap through the portal to its creator. There, the doctor initiated another subspace translink experiment, this one succeeding in connecting the clone to an ancient, evil, greedy life force. At last, Arkeville's creation became Nemesis Prime.<ref>''Binaltech'' Black Convoy's toy pack-in bio in the [http://www.fantofan.jp/photo%20gallery/binartech/bt-17/story.jpg original Japanese] and in [http://www.fantofan.jp/photo%20gallery/binartech/bt-17/bt-17.jpg fan-translated English.]</ref>

What happened to Dr. Arkeville after that is unknown, but soon after activation, Nemesis Prime began to make his move. When Megatron's forces attacked the [[Earth Defense Command]] base on [[Mars]], Nemesis Prime appeared to block any further progress by the Decepticon leader, refusing to let him dominate Earth's solar system, which Nemesis Prime desired for himself. Megatron was disgusted that an Earth-born machine would wear the Decepticon [[insignia]], but just as they were about to battle, across the galaxy, on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] accomplished his mission to activate the [[Quintesson]]-created [[Large switch|killswitch]], deactivating all non-Binaltech Transformers. Megatron was frozen, and Nemesis Prime calmly seized the opportunity to take power, ordering Shockwave to gather as many Decepticon bodies as possible. Seeing the logic in this order, Shockwave complied. Nemesis Prime sat on Megatron's throne and plotted future moves.<ref>''Binaltech'' Rijie's toy pack-in bio.</ref>

Seeking to make himself a true match for Optimus Prime, Nemesis Prime schemed to create an artifical [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] by using a device to wrench minds from their bodies and combine them in a crystalline storage unit. Attempting a test run in a human settlement in [[Australia]], Nemesis Prime was thwarted by a contingent of Autobots led by Optimus Prime and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]. The two Primes went one-on-one during the ensuing battle, but when Optimus was sent tumbling into a riverbank, the Protector's spark flew to his aid and fused with him, lending Prime its power. Supercharged by the power of the Protector's spark, Optimus absorbed Nemesis Prime's next attack and redirected it upon his dark twin, who was engulfed and finally destroyed as his body exploded into shards.<ref>''Binaltech'' Convoy's toy pack-in bio.</ref>

===''Universe Classic Series'' toy bio===
[[Image:NemesisPrimebox.jpg|right|150px|thumb|"They'll never guess I'm evil."]]
Nemesis Prime was the product of a mad plan by [[Straxus (G1)|Straxus]], who put a lowly, unknown warrior through an excruciating rebuilding process, tortuously reforging him into the very image of Optimus Prime. Through forcible data uploads and brainwashing, the Decepticon was imbued with memories and skills culled from many sources, giving him much of Optimus Prime's knowledge and combat algorithms. This, however, cost him not just his sense of identity, but also any framework with which to process this knowledge. His creator having since perished, Nemesis Prime became a threat to all, skulking in the dark parts of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and targeting both Autobots and Decepticons in his murderous insanity.<ref>[http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?BR=496&ST=SO&ID=22380&PG=1 ''Universe Classic Series'' Nemesis Prime's on-package bio]</ref>

{{-}}
==Toys==
===Alternators===
[[Image:AltNemesisPrime toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|In Australia, I'm a shelf-warmer.]]
* '''Nemesis Prime''' (2006)
**''Alternators ID number:'' '''24'''
**''Accessories:'' Engine/blaster

: Nemesis Prime is a [[Black repaint|black]] [[redeco]] of ''[[Alternators]]/[[Kiss Players (toyline)|Kiss Players]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] with red translucent windows and blue paint detail. Like Optimus, he transforms into a Dodge Ram SRT-10 at 1:24 scale, with opening doors, hood, and tailgate, plus an open passenger compartment. His engine transforms into a handgun.

: He was initially sold [[Exclusive|exclusively]] at San Diego Comic-Con 2006 and limitedly at Hasbro Toy Shop, selling out roughly an hour after its 2pm sales debut. Prior to that, he was released in large quantities at regular retail in various Asian countries, becoming a [[shelfwarmer]] there, ironically.

: Later, he was offered in Australia through online stores. A few weeks later he showed up in massive numbers in the Australian retail store Toy World for half the price.

{{-}}
===Binaltech===
[[Image:BTBlackConvoy toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I am the evil clone of an evil clone! How do you beat this?]]
* '''Black Convoy''' (2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-17'''
**''Accessories:'' Engine/blaster

: Black Convoy is the first ''Binaltech'' release since [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] in early 2006, and was available exclusively in Japan at the winter Wonder Festival in 2007. His plastic colours are different from Nemesis Prime's, with grey plastic replacing the black on his shins, waist, shoulders and forearms. In addition, Nemesis Prime's windows are tinted red, but Black Convoy's windows are completely clear. His paint deco is based upon ''Kiss Players'' Convoy's, arranged in the same patterns but using teal, and he has vacuum-metallized wheels and front grill. The paint deco on his head is meant to evoke that of Car Robots [[Scourge (RID)|Black Convoy]]. Perhaps the most important differences are that he has die-cast metal parts, and most of his truck body panels are coated in gloss black paint.

: Perhaps due to cost-cutting, this toy was released in the large bubble-on-a-tray packaging also used in the ''Alternators'' line. However, he came with no character or packaging art.

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===Titanium Series===
* '''Nemesis Prime''' (3" Cybertron Heroes)
**''Accessories:'' Ion Blaster, display stand

:Had it been released, this toy would have been a repaint of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|''War Within'' Optimus Prime]]. His unpublished bio described a character much like the ''Universe'' version mentioned above, but without reference to Straxus or any type of origin story. As a redeco of a War Within toy, this Nemesis would presumably—but not necessarily—have been part of the [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] [[Dreamwave Generation One continuity|comics continuity]].

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===Universe (2008)===
====Classic Series====
[[Image:Nemesisprimesdcc08.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Straxus died before he could finish my trailer.]]
*'''Nemesis Prime''' (Voyager, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' 2 smokestacks/"Stellar Converter Cannon", wind vane/"Disruptor Cannon"

: Nemesis Prime is a redeco of ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' Optimus Prime, transforming into a modern cab-over style truck of made up model, dominated by a large aero fairing on his roof. Premiering as San Diego Comic Con 2008 [[exclusive]], it later saw wider release via [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] as part of the Classics Series of the 2008 ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' toyline. He was not designed to pull a trailer, and subsequently does not come with one. The figure largely follows the same paint application map as the original figure, with some minor omissions as well as new paint applications. As well, it features metallic purple and silver [[tampograph]]s of the Decepticon symbol on its forearm and shoulder, as well as red paint blocking the [[light-piping]] feature in the figure's head.

:In robot mode, his aero fairing transforms into a large "Disruptor Cannon", and his smokestacks transform into a smaller "Stellar Converter Cannon". Additionally, both can combine together to form a back-mounted shoulder weapon.

: This mold was also used to make ''Classics'' [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and the evil "[[Shattered Glass (toyline)|Shattered Glass]]" [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]]. In fact, counting the ''[[Henkei! Henkei! (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' [[redeco]]s, this is the '''sixth''' version of this mold released within two years. You milk those [[completist]]s, [[Hasbro]]/[[TakaraTomy]], you milk 'em ''good''.

==Trivia==
*[[Forest Lee|The author of Nemesis Prime's ''Alternators'' bio]] has said that the "extra-spatial source" that Arkeville tapped into was actually a pocket dimension that served as [[Unicron]]'s power battery—and that Unicron gave Arkeville exactly what he wanted, in the form of a [[spark]] fragment from Unicron's [[Nemesis Prime (Universe 2003)|own attempt at cloning an Optimus Prime]].{{fact}}

*Comic-Con 2008 Nemesis Prime's ''Universe'' bio seems directly inspired by the Marvel UK "[[Two Megatrons!]]" storyline, which revealed that Straxus had rebuilt a "hapless trooper" into a Megatron clone, complete with copied brain patterns. Unlike Nemesis Prime, however, this clone became a repository for Straxus' consciousness after Straxus' botched attempt to invade the original Megatron's mind.

*According to [[Hasbro]] copy writer [[Forest Lee]], this reference to Straxus was mentioned in Comic-Con 2008 Nemesis Prime's bio entirely to make [[David Willis]] happy.

*A Stellar Converter is the doomsday weapons used by Sador of the Malmori in the 1980s sci-fi film Battle Beyond The Stars.

==References==
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==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/2006/Decepticon/NemesisPrime/nemesisprime.htm Nemesis Prime at TFU.info]

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{{disambig3.5|the heroic Decepticon gunslinger who may or may not be a Pretender|his evil Pretender martial artist counterpart|Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon}}
:''Bludgeon is a heroic [[Decepticon]] from the [[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]] [[continuity family]].''
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'''Bludgeon''' is the best dang sharpshooter on all of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]! Yee-Haw! He's recently become fascinated with [[Earth]]'s transmissions about their law-enforcement units, installing hip-holsters for his pistols and similar equipment in order to better emulate them. He's friends with [[Carnivac (SG)|Carnivac]], with whom he usually teams up during the [[Mayhem Suppression Squad]]'s missions.

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==Fiction==
===''Shattered Glass''===
Bludgeon and the rest of the Mayhem Suppression Squad joined in the defense of the [[Arch-Ayr]] fuel dump. He and Carnivac took on [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] together, with Bludgeon hip-shooting Prime and Carnivac chewing on him. {{storylink|Dungeons & Dinobots}}

==Toys==
[[Image:RIDtoy-Bludgeon.jpg|right|thumb|300px|They call me Cowboy baby With the top let back and the sunshine shining...]]
===Robots in Disguise===
*'''Bludgeon''' ([[Destructicon]], 2003)
**''Accessories'': Rifle, 2 missiles

: A [[redeco]] of the ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Hero|"Hero" Megatron]] mold, [[Bludgeon (RID)|Bludgeon]] transforms into an [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes#M1 Abrams|Abrams M1A1 assault tank]]. His main cannon uses an air-bladder to launch the hollow, rubber-tipped missiles he comes with. These missiles can be stored with pull-out clips on the sides of his turret, which become his robot-mode arms.

: He and his fellow Destructicon [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]] were [[exclusive]] to the [[KB Toys]] store chain, released under the ''[[Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]]'' banner long after the series had been replaced with ''[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'', which explains why they used the same packaging style.

: While his [[package art]] shows him having two separate eyes (like the original release of the figure as Megatron), the actual toy has its face painted red across its nose to connect the eyes to make a rather unevenly-leveled eye visor.

: This mold was also used to make [[Reverse Convoy]], and was later [[repurposing|repurposed]] as "Shattered Glass" Bludgeon.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Decepticon/Bludgeon/bludgeon.htm More information on Bludgeon at TFU.info]''

[[Category: Mayhem Suppression Squad]]
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The columns for Autobot and Decepticon seem to only list SG Autobots and Decepticons while Autobot and Decepticons from other worlds get stuck in other. Perhaps for clairity's sake the columns should clearly state "Shattered Glass Autobot" or "Autobot (SG)"? Opinions welcome. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:10, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:It doesn't help that the column links go to the regular Autobot and Decepticon pages. It makes the column headings more ambiguous. I support clarifying the headers. Also instead of "other" there should probably be regular Autobot and Decepticon columns. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:17, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::I think it's redundant, personally, as SG stories are marked as being such already... plus I think Reunification is the only place where it's even going to come up. But I'm not against it, either.
::I do agree that the headers on all of the "Shattered Glass" comic and story pages could use clarification in terms of just the ''linkage'', though. We should probably link them to the "Shattered Glass" anchor on the faction pages, and I had been thinking already before this that maybe we should do the same for the "Shattered Glass" [[Template:Factions]] icon links as well. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:23, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:::That's part of the confusion that lead to me editing them, as when you linked on the column for "Autobots" it linked you to pages on normal Autobots, which Cliffjumper and Skyfall were members of... so why couldn't they be listed as Autobots? They they linked to pages about SG Autobots that would make more sense. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:28, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::::Well, we don't ''have'' a separate SG Autobot page. And I'm not really sure we need one, as while the fact that SG Autobots act more like normal Decepticons and such makes them very different from normal Autobots... there's not a heck of a lot more to say outside of that in terms of specifics. (Although now that I think about it, the "Shattered Glass" sections on both pages could at least use a write-up on the history of both factions in the SG verse... yay, more to-do list stuff... anyhoo.)
::::But, changing the links to at least point to the specific "Shattered Glass" section of the faction pages, I think that's a good idea. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:33, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:::::You could easily link them to this page and subsection [[Autobot#Shattered_Glass|Autobot]] [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:41, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:::::I think the fact that Autobots and SG Autobots can't be mixed together in featured character columns indicates that SG Autobots probably could have their own page, especially since they meet each other through dimension hopping. They aren't really the same faction. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:42, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::::::You don't need a new page, just link to this section of the page [[Autobot#Shattered_Glass|Autobot]] instead of the main page [[Autobot]] - if someone wants to avoid the extra work involved, I'll do it if other agrees (I'll wait for permission to avoid an edit war). [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:45, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:::::::Nah, I'd be willing to do it if everyone ends up agreeing. Probably should give it time to wait to see if more than just our tiny handful weighs in, though.
:::::::And... mmm. On the one hand, I could see justifying new pages for SG Autobots and SG Decepticons. On the other hand, I really don't like our practice of making separate pages even when there's hardly more than a couple sentences to say about the subject in question intro-wise. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:51, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::::::::I agree, keep the SG Autobot as a section of the main Autobot page, but link the top of the character column in the SG fiction character section to the SG subsection, not the top. Dear god, two people agree. We get a couple more and there will be concensus! [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:57, 5 November 2009 (EST)

:If I might stick my oar in: I suggest the title of "Visitors" for the third column. Dividing the Nexus Prime guys into factions doesn't seem like it would be useful to me, since they're all essentially one group. Though I would support a separate "Transtechs" column (I don't know what Transtech guys' deal is in terms of this story, admittedly). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:09, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::The three TransTechs are SG Alpha Trion's groupies, basically. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:17, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:::Problem is if you changed it to visitors you'd still need "others" for the non-aligned bots who appear in some issues. Better to keep Others as Others I think. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 21:24, 5 November 2009 (EST)

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I can't speak for whether the Nexus Prime folks count as Autobots and Decepticons in Transcendent or not. But on the Shattered Glass pages, I'm pretty sure "Autobots" and "Decepticons" is always intended to refer to the "Shattered Glass" version of the factions specifically. That's why Heatwave is in "Decepticons" (because he actually is an SG Decepticon), but the rest of his gestalt and G1 Cliffjumper are in "Others". --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 18:23, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:I don't see the problem with putting Autobots in the Autobot column and Decepticons in the Deception column. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 19:01, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::I believe I just thoroughly explained the logic above. Please take the time to read it. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:17, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::Also, the header colors/orders are switched for "Shattered Glass" stories on purpose. Don't change them. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:20, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:::In cases where SG Autobots appeared on Transtech Cybertron they were listed as Autobots. See [[Transcendent: Part 1]] - So how is this different? I do see your point on colors though. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 19:34, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::::AFAIK the only SG Autobot that ever appeared on TransTech Cybertron was SG Alpha Trion, and he was actually passing himself off as a normal Autobot at the time.
:::::Autobots on different worlds are all different. It's just SG Autobots are more different than most. We don't list Unicron Trilogy Autobot apart from Transtech Autobot, apart from G2 Autobots do we? [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:07, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::::But in the SG stories, the Autobots and Decepticons are completely opposite from their normal counterparts. An Autobot in the normal world would almost certainly not be an Autobot in the SG verse, and likewise for Cons. Heck, even though Cliffjumper is technically a part of the SG Decepticons, he states out loud that he still considers himself an Autobot--just the "right" kind of Autobot. IMHO they're two different beasts.
::::Thus... like, I said, Heatwave actually ''is'' the SG variety of Decepticon, so he stays there. Everyone else... "Others" is pretty much our best place. The Shattered Glass universe is a weird place; it wouldn't be the only wiki convention we've bent for it.
::::If you want to take it up on a related talk page elsewhere, be my guest... maybe it'll turn out everyone disagrees with me. But until then, for the love of my sanity and the Recent Changes listing, '''stop changing around the pages'''. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:48, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:::::Since the list says "AUTOBOTS" and "DECEPTICONS", I don't see any problem listing the Autobots and Decepticon under them for now... but please, start a talk page talk about it. Perhaps the columns should say "SHATTERED GLASS AUTOBOTS" and "SHATTERED GLASS DECEPTICONS" then it would be correct your way? [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 19:50, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::::::Well, no, because we assume our readers are intelligent enough to realize that if a story is in Shattered Glass continuity, maybe just maybe it's referring to Shattered Glass factions. And, since you're the one busy trying to change a page's current convention, it's your job to bring it up on a talk page. Otherwise, if you continue this reverting, I'm bringing it to an admin's attention. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:53, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:::::::The columns are a bit ambiguous. If the headings were changed to "'Shattered Glass' Autobots" or "Autobots (SG)" or something, it would clear everything up and be more precise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:57, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::::::::I agree, and I was doing just this, but it seems I somehow got blocked from editing them half way though. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 19:58, 5 November 2009 (EST)

:::::::What Jeysie said. If your edits keep getting reverted, there's usually a good reason. In this case, it's because a convention is already in place. You may not agree with that convention, but it doesn't mean you should keep making the same edits over and over. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:01, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:How do you explain that when Alpha Trion appears in a Transtech story he's listed as an Autobot then? Also, I tried changing the headers to Shattered Glass Autobots and THAT got reverted too and got me blocked from editing? I was trying to find a workable solution. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:03, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::It ''may'' be a good idea to change the column headings, but right now it is just an idea until it is discussed on a talk page. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:06, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:::Okay, I would like to place it on the talk page then. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:07, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::::I already answered your question in a previous reply: "AFAIK the only SG Autobot that ever appeared on TransTech Cybertron was SG Alpha Trion, and he was actually passing himself off as a normal Autobot at the time."
::::And you're not blocked from editing altogether; those specific pages have just been set so only users can edit them, so you'll actually stop and discuss your proposed changes like you were asked to, rather than continuing to revert and change things. So you're free to bring it up yourself. Probably either the Reunification talk page or the Shattered Glass (franchise) talk page would be suitable spots. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:10, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::Okay, peace dude. I placed a talking point here [[Talk:Reunification: Part 1]] I'll wait a couple days and wait to see if people reply to it. Feel free to make alternative suggestions in the mean time. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:12, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:Now I just need to find out Jeysie is looking into me on message boards. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:58, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::...huh? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:08, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:::here [[User_talk:Jeysie#Scaleface_.3D_mignash]] [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 21:10, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::::Ah! Heh. That was a followup from this discussion after Blackout added the initial info to the SG Terrorcon pages way back when: [[User talk:-Blackout-/Archive Alpha#Terrorcon Descriptions]] --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:14, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:::::I was wondering why people were talking about me. I'm wholely paranoid. I've had bad experiences with people posting crap about me on boards without me knowing. Thanks for the clairification. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 21:22, 5 November 2009 (EST)

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==Combiner Factions==
I can't speak for whether the Nexus Prime folks count as Autobots and Decepticons in Transcendent or not. But on the Shattered Glass pages, I'm pretty sure "Autobots" and "Decepticons" is always intended to refer to the "Shattered Glass" version of the factions specifically. That's why Heatwave is in "Decepticons" (because he actually is an SG Decepticon), but the rest of his gestalt and G1 Cliffjumper are in "Others". --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 18:23, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:I don't see the problem with putting Autobots in the Autobot column and Decepticons in the Deception column. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 19:01, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::I believe I just thoroughly explained the logic above. Please take the time to read it. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:17, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::Also, the header colors/orders are switched for "Shattered Glass" stories on purpose. Don't change them. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:20, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:::In cases where SG Autobots appeared on Transtech Cybertron they were listed as Autobots. See [[Transcendent: Part 1]] - So how is this different? I do see your point on colors though. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 19:34, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::::AFAIK the only SG Autobot that ever appeared on TransTech Cybertron was SG Alpha Trion, and he was actually passing himself off as a normal Autobot at the time.
:::::Autobots on different worlds are all different. It's just SG Autobots are more different than most. We don't list Unicron Trilogy Autobot apart from Transtech Autobot, apart from G2 Autobots do we? [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:07, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::::But in the SG stories, the Autobots and Decepticons are completely opposite from their normal counterparts. An Autobot in the normal world would almost certainly not be an Autobot in the SG verse, and likewise for Cons. Heck, even though Cliffjumper is technically a part of the SG Decepticons, he states out loud that he still considers himself an Autobot--just the "right" kind of Autobot. IMHO they're two different beasts.
::::Thus... like, I said, Heatwave actually ''is'' the SG variety of Decepticon, so he stays there. Everyone else... "Others" is pretty much our best place. The Shattered Glass universe is a weird place; it wouldn't be the only wiki convention we've bent for it.
::::If you want to take it up on a related talk page elsewhere, be my guest... maybe it'll turn out everyone disagrees with me. But until then, for the love of my sanity and the Recent Changes listing, '''stop changing around the pages'''. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:48, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:::::Since the list says "AUTOBOTS" and "DECEPTICONS", I don't see any problem listing the Autobots and Decepticon under them for now... but please, start a talk page talk about it. Perhaps the columns should say "SHATTERED GLASS AUTOBOTS" and "SHATTERED GLASS DECEPTICONS" then it would be correct your way? [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 19:50, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::::::Well, no, because we assume our readers are intelligent enough to realize that if a story is in Shattered Glass continuity, maybe just maybe it's referring to Shattered Glass factions. And, since you're the one busy trying to change a page's current convention, it's your job to bring it up on a talk page. Otherwise, if you continue this reverting, I'm bringing it to an admin's attention. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:53, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:::::::The columns are a bit ambiguous. If the headings were changed to "'Shattered Glass' Autobots" or "Autobots (SG)" or something, it would clear everything up and be more precise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:57, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::::::::I agree, and I was doing just this, but it seems I somehow got blocked from editing them half way though. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 19:58, 5 November 2009 (EST)

:::::::What Jeysie said. If your edits keep getting reverted, there's usually a good reason. In this case, it's because a convention is already in place. You may not agree with that convention, but it doesn't mean you should keep making the same edits over and over. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:01, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:How do you explain that when Alpha Trion appears in a Transtech story he's listed as an Autobot then? Also, I tried changing the headers to Shattered Glass Autobots and THAT got reverted too and got me blocked from editing? I was trying to find a workable solution. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:03, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::It ''may'' be a good idea to change the column headings, but right now it is just an idea until it is discussed on a talk page. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:06, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:::Okay, I would like to place it on the talk page then. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:07, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::::I already answered your question in a previous reply: "AFAIK the only SG Autobot that ever appeared on TransTech Cybertron was SG Alpha Trion, and he was actually passing himself off as a normal Autobot at the time."
::::And you're not blocked from editing altogether; those specific pages have just been set so only users can edit them, so you'll actually stop and discuss your proposed changes like you were asked to, rather than continuing to revert and change things. So you're free to bring it up yourself. Probably either the Reunification talk page or the Shattered Glass (franchise) talk page would be suitable spots. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:10, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::Okay, peace dude. I placed a talking point here [[Talk:Reunification: Part 1]] I'll wait a couple days and wait to see if people reply to it. Feel free to make alternative suggestions in the mean time. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:12, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:Now I just need to find out Jeysie is looking into my on message boards. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:58, 5 November 2009 (EST)

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You can link to an image without actually displaying an image by placing a colon (:) just before Image. Note: Hopefully I am addressing the right person this time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:50, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
:Yes, that was me. Thanks! - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 08:43, 24 March 2009 (EDT)

== Redirects ==

Seeing as every redirect you'd created for those toy names for the movie franchise is one that Geewunling later had me delete, I think we can safely say we don't need a redirect for every toy name.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:13, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
:Deletes don't show up in my watchlist or I might have realized what was going on. Really? Movie toy name redirects? They must have been delete-able because I don't immediately recall making them. I don't think there should be redirects for every toy either, but I thought Roadbuster Ultra Magnus was kinda special. It isn't everyday there is a toy deco scheme named after a character (same for the disambig2 on the Roadbuster page). But if not, no biggie. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:31, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
::Ah. I didn't pay much attention to the others when deleting them, so if it wasn't you that made 'em my appologies. I just saw you making a new one and came to the wrong conclusion.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:33, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
:::OK. I don't think it was me. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:38, 5 April 2009 (EDT)

==Unreleased toys==
Why don't you just... make the unreleased toys category a subcategory of things that don't exist? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:54, 6 April 2009 (EDT)
:There are only a small number of characters with unreleased toys that don't exist at all. Most have other toys and/or exist in fiction. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 06:19, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

== ROTF ==

The ROTF page should not be used to put up the latest news. There are questions regarding the details of the Constructicons in this movie, as I outlined in the confirmed news section. As such, we will be holding off on including seeming doubles (Scavenger), guys we never even heard of (Overload), and guys who have no official name yet ("The Doctor"). We'll wait for further information. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:13, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

==Breakdown/Brakedown==
Actually, the full story is that we used to have Breakdown (disambig) which I disagreed with because we only had one Breakdown at the time and two Brakedowns. Also, while the names are alike, they are very much not the same. One can have a breakdown, but not a brakedown. One can push the brake(s) down, but not the break(s). Hence, I moved the page to Brakedown (disambig), got Breakdown (disambig) deleted and pulled Breakdown out of the main list, as well as making his page's disambig3 a disambig2 to the Brakedown (disambig) page. Then Breakdown (Titan) was created just before the crash and I intended to have another look at it. Then the crash happened. Brakedown (disambig) was restored, but so was Breakdown (disambig). I decided to just use what we had and make Breakdown alike to Brakedown, but keep them separated because they are not at all the same name, but close enough to justify linked disambig pages. I'm not much for an edit war and I think my decision could use a second opinion. Do you think they are better off merged or can/should I revert your edits? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 12:31, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
:I jumped to the wrong conclusion about the crash. Sorry I didn't discuss it first. Does "Brakedown" mean anything? Racing jargon? I guess that doesn't matter. Transformer names don't have to mean anything. Either way works. You can change it back. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:56, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
::It's okay, it is after all a bit of a weird situation with those names and as stated, I have my doubts on my solution. I opt to revert things though, because, yeah, unless anyone actually protests, Breakdown just stays not Brakedown to me. (And all I can say about the meaning of Brakedown is that it sounds very un-Stunticon-ish ^^) [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 13:13, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

== Rodimus ==

The source is useable for fiction purposes - it is out-of-cartoon info that is still explicitly part of the cartoon continuity. This same kind of facet was used on Warpath's article to fix it when we thought he was dead. The wording could be better served by a using it as a ref instead of "Wyatt said so", but it's just as valid as anything else.

For example

"Rodimus was taken out by Oil Slick's Cosmic Rust gel, but pulled through once recovered by the Elite Guard.<nowiki><ref>Wyatt said so blah blah blah</ref></nowiki>"

Its not a spoiler, since it's been released from an official source, and its just false to say "we don't know what happened to him". He survived, and we know it. That is a perfectly acceptable way of doing it.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 11:29, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
:First of all, you need a reference to where the information came from. Did he tell you personally in casual conversation? Is it on a blog? If it is on a blog, link to it. Second, the word of Wyatt, even in a blog, is not a valid source for new fictional events. It can be used to clarify something that was seen in fiction (was that Alpha Trion?) but it can't add a new event that was never depicted, such as Rodimus on the road to recovery. Read the article on [[Hail and Farewell]] for an example where a item on a blog was explicitly claimed to be canon but wasn't. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:46, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

== PNG files ==

I would suggest you convert all the PNG files you have uploaded to JPG files, then ask for your PNG files to be deleted. There is no reason to use PNG files in these instances, for they are several times as large as equivalent JPGs. In fact, you appear to have ignored the warnings the Wiki software should have given you when you attempt to upload a file that is larger than 150KB. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:14, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
:Check. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:15, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
::Yeah, our main use for PNGs is insignia, since that's one of the few places they're an advantage.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 11:18, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
:::Thanks, I don't upload many pics. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:20, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
::::S'okay. I'm just wonky about it since I compiled our image policy.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 11:23, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
:::::Yeah, it's okay. I am also wonky about this since I probably upload the most images on the wiki, and am really strict about how I do it, so I want everybody to follow my example, goshdarnit. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:40, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
::::::Converting them to JPG gives them a black background (at least the way I do it). That should be OK. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:42, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for your help on the movie articles, dood! --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:23, 5 May 2009 (EDT)
:Sorry? I could have done some of them. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:37, 5 May 2009 (EDT)

==Categories in preview==
You can actually see them in the preview. You just have to scroll all the way to the bottom of the page. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:46, 6 May 2009 (EDT)
:Cool. Thanks. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 23:47, 6 May 2009 (EDT)

== "Purple motorcycle Autobot" ==

You don't need need to rush off and create every article you can. We can wait for them to reveal her name. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:19, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
:It's OK. I don't mind. I don't think I was rushing. The comic she was in has been out for 6 weeks. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:25, 7 May 2009 (EDT)

== Slow Down! ==

Before: Soudwave came with a overly sculpted missile that apears to represent Ravage in Transition form. He can't transform tough...bummer. 
After: Soundwave comes with an intricately sculpted missile that appears to represent Ravage in transition form. He can't transform, though...bummer.

Don't rush; take all the time you need to proof yourself, please.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:02, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

== The Veiled Threat articles ==

I would suggest you avoid basing the text of these articles so closely to the paragraphs in the book. I recognise the style of prose that comes from a novel (even if you didn't copy it word-for-word) and it is almost completely different from the usual style of writing on the wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:46, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
:I suppose I can try to match the usual style on the wiki next time. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:59, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

== Fiction sections = past tense ==

What the title says. Our fiction sections are written like a historical record, in the past tense. Only actual episode/issue recaps are written in present tense. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 00:57, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

== Nemesis ==

Read the comic before deciding to move articles around. Ask IDW employees before moving articles around. For God's sake. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:16, 2 June 2009 (EDT)
:You moved it back already!!?? It is in the ROTF movie adaptation #2. Trust me. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:25, 2 June 2009 (EDT)

== Removing comingsoontoy tags ==

If you're going to remove the comingsoontoy tags but will not write a description for the toys, please remember to put a <nowiki>{{charstubtoys}}</nowiki> in its place so there isn't a big blank space there. Thanks. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:24, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

== Storylinks ==

Last I checked, you aren't supposed to put storylinks in the opening of articles. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:11, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
:Oh. Thanks. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

== ROTF comic adaptations ==

Can you change the tense of these articles you have written? While we use past tense in character articles, we use present tense when recapping stories. Thanks. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:21, 27 June 2009 (EDT)

== Category spam ==

First, you keep forgetting to mark these edits as "minor," so they spam up the Recent Changes something fierce. Second, I think we're getting ridiculously specific with these categories beyond the point of usefulness, and think we need some community discussion on this.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:57, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
:Sorry about the spam. I didn't make the categories, I just ran with it. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:59, 21 July 2009 (EDT)

== Categorizing ==

Category:Dinoforce already contains Category:Decepticons, Category:Pretenders. :) --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 13:20, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

==Techno-organic==
Please show me the instance where the term technorganic us used in show, as from everything I can recall Blackarachnia, Sari and Waspinator are all consistently referred to as techo-organics. Out side BA's toy bio, I can't think of a single time the term is used in Animated [[User:Eire]] 20.58 Sept 2 09 (UTC)
:Can you show me where it is spelled "techno-organic"? As far as I know it is never spelled "techno-organic." I don't know why the characters pronounce it "tech-no-or-gan-ic" when the spelling suggests they should pronounce it "tech-nor-gan-ic" but that is not my problem. It is spelled "technorganic." - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:06, 2 September 2009 (EDT)
::It is said in show as tek-n'''''o'''''-or-gan-ic. And they say it with a break, which would fully indicate the spelling of techno-organic. Tek-'''''nor'''''-gan-ic ONLY appears in the toy bio. Technorganic is spelled technorganic and said technorganic. Neither of which applies to the term techno-organic. Especially since technically, a distinction is made between the two terms in Transformers fiction (The glossary in the BW omnibus for example applies the term techno-organic to standard beast mode transformers). If the term appears in the show as techno-organic, the term technorganic should not be applied for the show. In fact, technically, Sari at least, and maybe Waspinator I've never seen his bio, should not be included under the term technorganic because she is only ever referred to as a techno-organic, by both Soundwave and Sumdac. Your problems aren't the issue, the accuracy of the information is. BA's bio calls her a technorganic, she should be included in the main article. But, Sari and Waspinator (again, if his bio has it fine) should not be included in the fiction section, but inserted as a note, explaining how the term techno-organic is used in show, or include them in the main article, but addd the note with the addition of the assumption that the shows usage of the term techno-organic is synonymous with the term technorganic, based on BA's bio. I accept that BA's condition does have a more tecnorganic feel to it (again, applicable to Waspinator to a degree) but Sari's a different type of being. She's a protoform that sampled organic material, which is the same as a standard Beast Era character (eg Airrazor), and as I said earlier, the BW Sourcebook glossary establishes the correct term for a first gen character is a techno-organic [[User:Eire]] 21.18 Sept 2 09 (UTC)
:::Doesn't BA call herself tek-n'''''o'''''-or-gan-ic in the show? I think she does. How is tek-n'''''o'''''-or-gan-ic spelled? The only place it is spelled is in her bio, which is "technorganic." If "tek-n'''''o'''''-or-gan-ic" is spelled "technorganic" for her, I would imagine "tek-n'''''o'''''-or-gan-ic" is spelled "technorganic" for everyone. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:36, 2 September 2009 (EDT)
::::The bio has the word technorganic, which cannot be pronounced as techno-organic as it's missing the o. You just cannot produce the word without the o, therefore if the term in the show is pronounced techno-organic (again, I can't think of a single case of technorganic being used) it must by default be spelt as techno-organic, as technorganic can only be said aloud as technorganic due, as I've already stated, has no o. And since the glossary I mentioned earlier establishes techno-organic as a term, it should perhaps have its own article, detailing the BW use of the term at least, and (since I'm after finding the bio) both Waspinator and Sari, as neither are referred to as technorganics at any point.

If you have a way of adding an o into technorganic with out changing the spelling, or if you can find something fictionally or a statement from an offcial source, I'm happy to drop this.[[User:Eire]] 22.09 Sep 2 09 (UTC)
:::::Eire, I thought it over some more. I'm pretty much a toy bio-literalist. Sometimes I take it beyond common sense. This sounds like it might be one of those times. If you think "techno-organic" is better, that's fine with me. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:12, 2 September 2009 (EDT)
:Personally, I usually put shows before bios, but I think at worst its a micro-continuity issue. [[User:Eire]]

==Withered Hope character columns==
I won't even start with editing the columns in [[Withered Hope]], but their labels of "Autobots, Maximals and Minicons" and "Decepticons" and "Others" are astoundingly rediculous. Perhaps they should be... Autobot, Decepticons, Maximals and others? Since Autobots, Deceptiocns and Maximals make up the three largest groups that appear in the fic? [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:23, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:That one has been discussed before and that is what was decided on. It may not be pretty but it works. Good guys/Bad guys theme. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:47, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::Reading the talk page I said one thing, ItsWalky said another, and that's it. Not even three opinions to break a tie. So just asking, what do you think would be the best arrangement? I'm suggesting the change to Autobots, Decepticons, Maximals and Others, as those are the three largest groups and one left for everything else. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:54, 5 November 2009 (EST)

User talk:Starfield

2009-11-06T01:54:15Z

207.181.17.24: /* Withered Hope character columns */

You can link to an image without actually displaying an image by placing a colon (:) just before Image. Note: Hopefully I am addressing the right person this time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:50, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
:Yes, that was me. Thanks! - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 08:43, 24 March 2009 (EDT)

== Redirects ==

Seeing as every redirect you'd created for those toy names for the movie franchise is one that Geewunling later had me delete, I think we can safely say we don't need a redirect for every toy name.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:13, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
:Deletes don't show up in my watchlist or I might have realized what was going on. Really? Movie toy name redirects? They must have been delete-able because I don't immediately recall making them. I don't think there should be redirects for every toy either, but I thought Roadbuster Ultra Magnus was kinda special. It isn't everyday there is a toy deco scheme named after a character (same for the disambig2 on the Roadbuster page). But if not, no biggie. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:31, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
::Ah. I didn't pay much attention to the others when deleting them, so if it wasn't you that made 'em my appologies. I just saw you making a new one and came to the wrong conclusion.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:33, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
:::OK. I don't think it was me. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:38, 5 April 2009 (EDT)

==Unreleased toys==
Why don't you just... make the unreleased toys category a subcategory of things that don't exist? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:54, 6 April 2009 (EDT)
:There are only a small number of characters with unreleased toys that don't exist at all. Most have other toys and/or exist in fiction. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 06:19, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

== ROTF ==

The ROTF page should not be used to put up the latest news. There are questions regarding the details of the Constructicons in this movie, as I outlined in the confirmed news section. As such, we will be holding off on including seeming doubles (Scavenger), guys we never even heard of (Overload), and guys who have no official name yet ("The Doctor"). We'll wait for further information. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:13, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

==Breakdown/Brakedown==
Actually, the full story is that we used to have Breakdown (disambig) which I disagreed with because we only had one Breakdown at the time and two Brakedowns. Also, while the names are alike, they are very much not the same. One can have a breakdown, but not a brakedown. One can push the brake(s) down, but not the break(s). Hence, I moved the page to Brakedown (disambig), got Breakdown (disambig) deleted and pulled Breakdown out of the main list, as well as making his page's disambig3 a disambig2 to the Brakedown (disambig) page. Then Breakdown (Titan) was created just before the crash and I intended to have another look at it. Then the crash happened. Brakedown (disambig) was restored, but so was Breakdown (disambig). I decided to just use what we had and make Breakdown alike to Brakedown, but keep them separated because they are not at all the same name, but close enough to justify linked disambig pages. I'm not much for an edit war and I think my decision could use a second opinion. Do you think they are better off merged or can/should I revert your edits? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 12:31, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
:I jumped to the wrong conclusion about the crash. Sorry I didn't discuss it first. Does "Brakedown" mean anything? Racing jargon? I guess that doesn't matter. Transformer names don't have to mean anything. Either way works. You can change it back. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:56, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
::It's okay, it is after all a bit of a weird situation with those names and as stated, I have my doubts on my solution. I opt to revert things though, because, yeah, unless anyone actually protests, Breakdown just stays not Brakedown to me. (And all I can say about the meaning of Brakedown is that it sounds very un-Stunticon-ish ^^) [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 13:13, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

== Rodimus ==

The source is useable for fiction purposes - it is out-of-cartoon info that is still explicitly part of the cartoon continuity. This same kind of facet was used on Warpath's article to fix it when we thought he was dead. The wording could be better served by a using it as a ref instead of "Wyatt said so", but it's just as valid as anything else.

For example

"Rodimus was taken out by Oil Slick's Cosmic Rust gel, but pulled through once recovered by the Elite Guard.<nowiki><ref>Wyatt said so blah blah blah</ref></nowiki>"

Its not a spoiler, since it's been released from an official source, and its just false to say "we don't know what happened to him". He survived, and we know it. That is a perfectly acceptable way of doing it.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 11:29, 28 April 2009 (EDT)
:First of all, you need a reference to where the information came from. Did he tell you personally in casual conversation? Is it on a blog? If it is on a blog, link to it. Second, the word of Wyatt, even in a blog, is not a valid source for new fictional events. It can be used to clarify something that was seen in fiction (was that Alpha Trion?) but it can't add a new event that was never depicted, such as Rodimus on the road to recovery. Read the article on [[Hail and Farewell]] for an example where a item on a blog was explicitly claimed to be canon but wasn't. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:46, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

== PNG files ==

I would suggest you convert all the PNG files you have uploaded to JPG files, then ask for your PNG files to be deleted. There is no reason to use PNG files in these instances, for they are several times as large as equivalent JPGs. In fact, you appear to have ignored the warnings the Wiki software should have given you when you attempt to upload a file that is larger than 150KB. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:14, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
:Check. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:15, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
::Yeah, our main use for PNGs is insignia, since that's one of the few places they're an advantage.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 11:18, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
:::Thanks, I don't upload many pics. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:20, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
::::S'okay. I'm just wonky about it since I compiled our image policy.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 11:23, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
:::::Yeah, it's okay. I am also wonky about this since I probably upload the most images on the wiki, and am really strict about how I do it, so I want everybody to follow my example, goshdarnit. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:40, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
::::::Converting them to JPG gives them a black background (at least the way I do it). That should be OK. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:42, 1 May 2009 (EDT)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for your help on the movie articles, dood! --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:23, 5 May 2009 (EDT)
:Sorry? I could have done some of them. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:37, 5 May 2009 (EDT)

==Categories in preview==
You can actually see them in the preview. You just have to scroll all the way to the bottom of the page. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:46, 6 May 2009 (EDT)
:Cool. Thanks. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 23:47, 6 May 2009 (EDT)

== "Purple motorcycle Autobot" ==

You don't need need to rush off and create every article you can. We can wait for them to reveal her name. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:19, 7 May 2009 (EDT)
:It's OK. I don't mind. I don't think I was rushing. The comic she was in has been out for 6 weeks. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:25, 7 May 2009 (EDT)

== Slow Down! ==

Before: Soudwave came with a overly sculpted missile that apears to represent Ravage in Transition form. He can't transform tough...bummer. 
After: Soundwave comes with an intricately sculpted missile that appears to represent Ravage in transition form. He can't transform, though...bummer.

Don't rush; take all the time you need to proof yourself, please.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:02, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

== The Veiled Threat articles ==

I would suggest you avoid basing the text of these articles so closely to the paragraphs in the book. I recognise the style of prose that comes from a novel (even if you didn't copy it word-for-word) and it is almost completely different from the usual style of writing on the wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:46, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
:I suppose I can try to match the usual style on the wiki next time. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:59, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

== Fiction sections = past tense ==

What the title says. Our fiction sections are written like a historical record, in the past tense. Only actual episode/issue recaps are written in present tense. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 00:57, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

== Nemesis ==

Read the comic before deciding to move articles around. Ask IDW employees before moving articles around. For God's sake. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:16, 2 June 2009 (EDT)
:You moved it back already!!?? It is in the ROTF movie adaptation #2. Trust me. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:25, 2 June 2009 (EDT)

== Removing comingsoontoy tags ==

If you're going to remove the comingsoontoy tags but will not write a description for the toys, please remember to put a <nowiki>{{charstubtoys}}</nowiki> in its place so there isn't a big blank space there. Thanks. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:24, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

== Storylinks ==

Last I checked, you aren't supposed to put storylinks in the opening of articles. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:11, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
:Oh. Thanks. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

== ROTF comic adaptations ==

Can you change the tense of these articles you have written? While we use past tense in character articles, we use present tense when recapping stories. Thanks. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:21, 27 June 2009 (EDT)

== Category spam ==

First, you keep forgetting to mark these edits as "minor," so they spam up the Recent Changes something fierce. Second, I think we're getting ridiculously specific with these categories beyond the point of usefulness, and think we need some community discussion on this.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:57, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
:Sorry about the spam. I didn't make the categories, I just ran with it. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:59, 21 July 2009 (EDT)

== Categorizing ==

Category:Dinoforce already contains Category:Decepticons, Category:Pretenders. :) --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 13:20, 24 July 2009 (EDT)

==Techno-organic==
Please show me the instance where the term technorganic us used in show, as from everything I can recall Blackarachnia, Sari and Waspinator are all consistently referred to as techo-organics. Out side BA's toy bio, I can't think of a single time the term is used in Animated [[User:Eire]] 20.58 Sept 2 09 (UTC)
:Can you show me where it is spelled "techno-organic"? As far as I know it is never spelled "techno-organic." I don't know why the characters pronounce it "tech-no-or-gan-ic" when the spelling suggests they should pronounce it "tech-nor-gan-ic" but that is not my problem. It is spelled "technorganic." - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:06, 2 September 2009 (EDT)
::It is said in show as tek-n'''''o'''''-or-gan-ic. And they say it with a break, which would fully indicate the spelling of techno-organic. Tek-'''''nor'''''-gan-ic ONLY appears in the toy bio. Technorganic is spelled technorganic and said technorganic. Neither of which applies to the term techno-organic. Especially since technically, a distinction is made between the two terms in Transformers fiction (The glossary in the BW omnibus for example applies the term techno-organic to standard beast mode transformers). If the term appears in the show as techno-organic, the term technorganic should not be applied for the show. In fact, technically, Sari at least, and maybe Waspinator I've never seen his bio, should not be included under the term technorganic because she is only ever referred to as a techno-organic, by both Soundwave and Sumdac. Your problems aren't the issue, the accuracy of the information is. BA's bio calls her a technorganic, she should be included in the main article. But, Sari and Waspinator (again, if his bio has it fine) should not be included in the fiction section, but inserted as a note, explaining how the term techno-organic is used in show, or include them in the main article, but addd the note with the addition of the assumption that the shows usage of the term techno-organic is synonymous with the term technorganic, based on BA's bio. I accept that BA's condition does have a more tecnorganic feel to it (again, applicable to Waspinator to a degree) but Sari's a different type of being. She's a protoform that sampled organic material, which is the same as a standard Beast Era character (eg Airrazor), and as I said earlier, the BW Sourcebook glossary establishes the correct term for a first gen character is a techno-organic [[User:Eire]] 21.18 Sept 2 09 (UTC)
:::Doesn't BA call herself tek-n'''''o'''''-or-gan-ic in the show? I think she does. How is tek-n'''''o'''''-or-gan-ic spelled? The only place it is spelled is in her bio, which is "technorganic." If "tek-n'''''o'''''-or-gan-ic" is spelled "technorganic" for her, I would imagine "tek-n'''''o'''''-or-gan-ic" is spelled "technorganic" for everyone. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:36, 2 September 2009 (EDT)
::::The bio has the word technorganic, which cannot be pronounced as techno-organic as it's missing the o. You just cannot produce the word without the o, therefore if the term in the show is pronounced techno-organic (again, I can't think of a single case of technorganic being used) it must by default be spelt as techno-organic, as technorganic can only be said aloud as technorganic due, as I've already stated, has no o. And since the glossary I mentioned earlier establishes techno-organic as a term, it should perhaps have its own article, detailing the BW use of the term at least, and (since I'm after finding the bio) both Waspinator and Sari, as neither are referred to as technorganics at any point.

If you have a way of adding an o into technorganic with out changing the spelling, or if you can find something fictionally or a statement from an offcial source, I'm happy to drop this.[[User:Eire]] 22.09 Sep 2 09 (UTC)
:::::Eire, I thought it over some more. I'm pretty much a toy bio-literalist. Sometimes I take it beyond common sense. This sounds like it might be one of those times. If you think "techno-organic" is better, that's fine with me. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:12, 2 September 2009 (EDT)
:Personally, I usually put shows before bios, but I think at worst its a micro-continuity issue. [[User:Eire]]

==Withered Hope character columns==
I won't even start with editing the columns in [[Withered Hope]], but their labels of "Autobots, Maximals and Minicons" and "Decepticons" and "Others" are astoundingly rediculous. Perhaps they should be... Autobot, Decepticons, Maximals and others? Since Autobots, Deceptiocns and Maximals make up the three largest groups that appear in the fic? [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:23, 5 November 2009 (EST)
:That one has been discussed before and that is what was decided on. It may not be pretty but it works. Good guys/Bad guys theme. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:47, 5 November 2009 (EST)
::Reading the talk page I said one thing, ItsWalky said another, and that's it. Not even three opinions. So just asking, what do you think would be the best arrangement? I'm suggesting the change to Autobots, Decepticons, Maximals and Others, as those are the three largest groups and one left for everything else. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:54, 5 November 2009 (EST)

Talk:Withered Hope

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I was puttering around at work... and it seems that whenever fiction piece pages get done... the related pages are often left behind on the updating curve. So... I assembled this list.

[[Bug Bite]], [[Path Finder]], [[Small Foot]], [[Road Ranger]], [[Treds]], [[Bad Boy]], [[Crystal Widow]], [[Demolishor (TransTech)|Demolishor]], [[Airazor (BW)]]

[[Cheetor (TransTech)]], [[Silverbolt (TransTech)]], [[Adventas]], [[Optimus Prime (TransTech)]], [[Megatron (TransTech)]], [[Rhinox (TransTech)]], [[Doppler]], [[Beam Rider]], [[Skyquake (TransTech)]], [[Cryotek (TransTech)]]

[[Leader-1 (GoBots)]], [[Nitpick]], [[Night Beat 7]], [[Comet]], [[Escargon]], [[Swindle (G1)]], [[Blastcharge (BM)]], [[Hoist (G1)]], [[Prowl (G1)]], [[Prowl II]], [[Prowl (Armada)]], [[Herr Fiend]], [[Dreadwind (G1)]], [[Weirdwolf]], [[Thundercracker (G1)]], [[Doctor B]], [[Jipe]], [[Camaro]], , [[Pick-Up]], [[Bat-Robo]], [[Crossblades Primax II]] (which Crossblades it is was never identified), [[Destron-5]], [[Tankor (BM)]], [[Diagnostic Drone]], [[Impound]]

[[Widow's Cafe Cybertronian]], [[The Blue Deployer]], [[Swindle, Swindle & Swindle]], [[Tonka GoBots]], [[Guardian]], [[Renegade]], [[Cataclysm (event)]] (I'm not sure what disambig tag would be best there), [[Interfacer]], [[Transwarp]], [[Astro-Beam]], [[Lithone]], [[CR Chamber]], [[Narlie]], [[Dutronium]], [[Axiom Nexus]], [[Processing Central]], [[Fourier Station]], [[Observation Station Heterodyne]], [[ID bolt]], [[Data-con]], [[Acclimation Guild]], [[Axiom Nexus Security Administration]], [[Freelance Police Legion]], [[Polonium spritzer]], [[Offworlder Government]], [[Malignus]], [[Wave Crusher]], [[Campaign for Equal Minds]], [[Malgus|Malgus Cluster]], [[Primax|Primax Cluster]], [[Tyran|Tyran Cluster]]

I'm just thinking that this would kinda sorta be how an "improvement drive" list would work, pick a subject and then list allllll the pages neccessary to fill it. Luckily, a lot of these will be short. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:02, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

:It looks like these are, slowly but surely, getting done. Nice work on the underlying physics of the Astro-Beam, BTW.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:54, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
::Edited Sipher's text to change Leader-1 (GoBot) to [[Leader-1 (GoBots)]] just so no one makes a duplicate page. [[Special:Contributions/97.82.152.134|97.82.152.134]] 14:36, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

==Weird categories==
Why does this story get a section called "Autobots, Maximals and Mini-Cons?" Odd combo. [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 15:13, 24 October 2009 (EDT)
: Because if we split up the Good Guys into as many columns as there are factions, it'd be a huge-ass chart. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:12, 24 October 2009 (EDT)
::I didn't know it was supposed to be heroes and villians - I thought it was just a faction listing. Does that make Blastcharge a "bad guy" while his partners in the police like the Prowls are "good guys"? Treds is a "bad guy" to you?" I'd think making the two or three largest groups categories, then make the last "other" for everyone else [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 12:32, 25 October 2009 (EDT)
:::I don't really think I was suggesting that we are truly listing everyone on this chart according to whether they were good or villainous in action throughout the article's subject. Grouping all the "good guy" factions together and all the "bad guy" factions together and then all the "none of the above" seems the cleanest and most comprehensible. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:26, 25 October 2009 (EDT)
::::Surely the Mini-Cons should get their own column as-per-usual though? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 13:33, 25 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::Or put him in Others since there is just one of him. (He has been an Autobot once, though.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 25 October 2009 (EDT)
::::::I'd suggest 4 colums max is the most that fit well, so make the first three the most common factions, the fourth other. So Autobots, Decepticons, Maximals and Others in this case. Also, I don't think we know the factions of many of the Transtechs, so they would be others. [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 19:22, 25 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Are there really any TransTechs in the character list that we don't know the faction of? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:02, 25 October 2009 (EDT)
::::::::Well, we never did nail down which "side", if any, Adventas, Beam Rider, and Skyquake were. Though I can't imagine a TT Skyquake NOT being a Decepticon, since pretty much all the other TTs with offworld doppelgangers share rough factions with them. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:25, 25 October 2009 (EDT)
::Are there any objections to there being 4 coloumn named "Autobots", "Decepticons", "Maximals" and "Other" then (as those are the three largest groups in the story)? [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 20:52, 5 November 2009 (EST)

Talk:Reunification: Part 1

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