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Talk:Serpent O.R.

2006-09-06T17:46:21Z

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Over lunch, Steve-o and LV! figgered Serpent O.R. is probably different enough from the original Serpentor to get his own page. I guess having a totally different origin, the the point of not even being a Cobra creation and being the technorganic son of Megatron helps that along. But, hey, discuss. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:37, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

...What the hell is a Serpent O.R. when it's at home?--[[User:TheTurnipKing|TheTurnipKing]] 06:26, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Well I think they ought to be regarded as the same guy. Trivialities about their creation aside, they have (from what I know) pretty indistinguishable personalities and MO. The only real difference is one happens to have shades of Nightbird. BUT really it's not a big issue since I don't know of any reason why Serpentor (the squsihy, non-robot one) would have an article. I don't recall him ever making any appearance to impact on the other crossovers. And I don't think the Devil's Due series is going to have two Serpentors any time soon. THIS I COMMAND.--[[User:Zodberg|Zodberg]] 20:03, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
: Serpentor was in the original Marvel crossover. He shook hands with Shockwave. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

::Two synthetric super-generals. One is made of super-DNA, the other fo cuper-science. Meh.
::You can give them seperate pages if you want- but you should do so witht he understandign that this is very mch liek giving Galvatron 1 qnd Galvatron II seperate pages. They are (on some level) shades of the same character, but we're seperatign the entries for clarity. -[[User:207.224.69.213|207.224.69.213]] 07:04, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
:::...but [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] and [[Galvatron II]] do have separate pages. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 07:16, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

::::Exactly. "If you seperatee them, it's the same situation. They're both versions og Galvatron/Serpentor, we jsut put them on seperate pages for clarity." -[[User:207.224.69.213|207.224.69.213]] 17:46, 6 September 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Serpent O.R.

2006-09-06T07:04:15Z

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Over lunch, Steve-o and LV! figgered Serpent O.R. is probably different enough from the original Serpentor to get his own page. I guess having a totally different origin, the the point of not even being a Cobra creation and being the technorganic son of Megatron helps that along. But, hey, discuss. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:37, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

...What the hell is a Serpent O.R. when it's at home?--[[User:TheTurnipKing|TheTurnipKing]] 06:26, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Well I think they ought to be regarded as the same guy. Trivialities about their creation aside, they have (from what I know) pretty indistinguishable personalities and MO. The only real difference is one happens to have shades of Nightbird. BUT really it's not a big issue since I don't know of any reason why Serpentor (the squsihy, non-robot one) would have an article. I don't recall him ever making any appearance to impact on the other crossovers. And I don't think the Devil's Due series is going to have two Serpentors any time soon. THIS I COMMAND.--[[User:Zodberg|Zodberg]] 20:03, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
: Serpentor was in the original Marvel crossover. He shook hands with Shockwave. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

::Two synthetric super-generals. One is made of super-DNA, the other fo cuper-science. Meh.
::You can give them seperate pages if you want- but you should do so witht he understandign that this is very mch liek giving Galvatron 1 qnd Galvatron II seperate pages. They are (on some level) shades of the same character, but we're seperatign the entries for clarity. -[[User:207.224.69.213|207.224.69.213]] 07:04, 6 September 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Serpentor

2006-09-06T04:17:44Z

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It is inaccurate to say that his storey did not take place in UK continuity-- Marvel 'US' continuity seems to have been 'created' when Galvatron negatewd his own existances in Time Wars, and a 'new' timeline was created, where Bumblebee was indeed rebuit as goldbug by Gi Joe, not Wreck-Gar.

(At least, that's the official line from the UK Letters Page, which does seem to mesh with certian things, liek the Nemesis stille xisting in US continuity if Galvatron didn't blast it out of space...) -[[User:207.224.69.213|207.224.69.213]] 04:17, 6 September 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Camshaft (G1)

2006-08-30T15:43:12Z

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Why'd we remove the stuff about his white-noise generator dish used to avoid detection when scouting in his "omnibot" mode? It's a fairly distict characteristic and special power as an omnibot?
: Well, usually, that kind of specific-toy-incarnation information belongs elsewhere in the article. Just like Jazz's profile shouldn't say he's a certain kind of Porsche, and Mirage's profile shouldn't say he can turn invisible while a yellow box surrounds him. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:55, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't call having a white-noise generator that he uses on stealth missions and that being an omnibot means he has a ".5" mode "toy" info though. I'd call it character related special powers, like how Windcharger's entry goes on at leangth about his speed and magnetic abillities.
: He has two bodies that's untrue of. It's specific to his first toy. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 02:15, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

:: Ok, hadn't considered that. :) Although... The Alternator has no bio or fiction so considering the same character is a judgement call (though I personally would too) and Universe is specifically various alternate realities. Actually come to that, the Universe toy really shouldn't be on here should it? I thought Universe guys were considered their own seperate characters and got their own page cause of the alt reality thing. Right?

:: Just got a lok at Camshaft's Univers bio. It's totally different from his classic one (even has a different quote) combine that with it being Universe and I definately think it should be its own seperate character entry. [[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 12:49, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

::: Camshaft didn't have a "classic one." There's the Dreamwave profile and there's this. The most the original mail-order material told us is that he's a scout, and a guy who slinks around in the shadows can certainly apply that to his scoutness. I find the two takes to be complimentary, much like Forest Lee's other material where we get a normal bio and then we get another tangent on their key info. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:24, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

For some reason I thought he had a japanese spec in G1, that DW drew on, but I'm probably remembering wrong and it really doesn't matter if it did or not.

I think it's pretty clear that this bio wasn't intended as "complimentary." All the other spychangers have their G1 bios exactly (even Hoist's which mentions being a tow-truck when he's NOT) not new suplimental material. Had the person putting the specs together had Camshafts existing material they would have just used it, but instead they created a whole new character for the toy.

Look at it this way:

G1 Camshaft has an official bio that says: he enlisted but doesn't want to die for the cause. Is very smart and a good scout because he avoids heroics or danger like the plague. His quote is about being smart enough to know when to run away.

Now in a line that is *specifically centered on Alternate Reality varients* along comes U. Camshaft who is discribed as '''"Daring"''' (the above character is specifically NOT "daring") and as a Rouge with special contortionist abilities who (rather than avoiding danger) specializes in sneeking into heavily guarded strongholds. He's grim ninja who's quote is about how he loves solitude.

That's NOT complimentary expansion that's a new and very contridictory character. Given that Universe is about alternate reality versions of characters to begin with, I'd say U. Camshaft is very much his own character as much as any alt. reality versino of a G1 bot could be.
[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 12:30, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

:what he said. -[[User:207.224.69.213|207.224.69.213]] 15:43, 30 August 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Don (disambiguation)

2006-08-30T04:27:09Z

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The name '''Don''' refers to more than one person in Transformers fandom.

* Voice actor [[Don Messick]], who portrayed [[Gears]] and [{Scavenger (G1)]] in the original cartoon.
* Comic book penciler [[Don Figueroa]]
* The softspoken and universally beloved producer of the 2007 Transformers movie, [[Don Murphy]].

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