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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;208.201.229.136: Sorry, I had to take it to its conclusion&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{bigquote|Yes, in AHM Rumble is RED|[[Joana Lafuente]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{bigquote|Okay guys, let&#039;s get this right this time. Rumble is BLUE, Frenzy is RED!|[[Derrick J. Wyatt]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{bigquote|[Frenzy]&#039;s blue because Hasbro said so.|[[Shane McCarthy]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Rumble and frenzy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Rumble and Frenzy. Or Frenzy and Rumble.  Or Rosencrantz and Guildenstern.  Or Guildenstern or Rosencrantz.  Whatever.]]&lt;br /&gt;
An acronym sometimes bandied about by fans, &#039;&#039;&#039;FIRRIB&#039;&#039;&#039; means &amp;quot;[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] is red, [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] is blue&amp;quot;.  The phrase originated on [[alt.toys.transformers]] circa 1994, essentially as a (largely joking) rallying cry for those who favored [[The Transformers (cartoon)|the original cartoon]] over various other media portrayals of the Transformers.  In time, the counterpoint &#039;&#039;&#039;FIBRIR&#039;&#039;&#039; emerged, standing for &amp;quot;Frenzy is blue, Rumble is red&amp;quot;.  The forms RIBFIR and RIRFIB are also known.&lt;br /&gt;
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The debate revolves around the colors of the [[Decepticon]] [[Mini-Cassette|Mini-Cassettes]], Rumble and Frenzy. It was [[Hasbro]]&#039;s intent that Rumble be black and red, and Frenzy be two shades of blue. These color schemes are used in the toyline, [[Marvel Comics]] and many storybooks and ancillary media from the early years of [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]], and naturally, it was intended for the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon series]] to render the characters in this manner as well (as proven by the show&#039;s [[production bible]], which identifies Rumble as the &amp;quot;red robot&amp;quot;). However, as a result of some unspecified error somewhere in production, the two robots had their color schemes swapped, leaving the animated incarnation of Rumble blue, and Frenzy red. &lt;br /&gt;
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Due to the widespread recognition the cartoon received, the concept of Rumble as the blue robot was ingrained into the minds of many viewers. As such, years later, [[Fandom|fans]] would argue vehemently (though often tongue-in-cheek) over which coloration was &amp;quot;correct&amp;quot;, based mainly on their personal preference for the cartoon or comic.&lt;br /&gt;
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The FIRRIB movement was codified by a [[MUSH]] user and cartoon fan named Scott Wells in 1994&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/7f7aa2ec041325c4/d066fdb5fb0bdaf9?lnk=gst&amp;amp;amp;q=FIRRIB#d066fdb5fb0bdaf9 ATT FAQ file, 1994]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, who coined the acronym FIRRIB.  The FIRRIB idea quickly caught on with other cartoon fans on [[alt.toys.transformers]], frequently appearing in signature files; its counterpoint, the comic- and toy-based FIBRIR, soon appeared as well.  After endless discussion threads fueled by little more than personal preference, the subject eventually landed in the group&#039;s FAQ file as a do-not-ask question.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/75181b5ca5175ca3?&amp;amp;amp;q=FIRRIB+FAQ ATT FAQ file, 1998]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Japanese dub of the Generation 1 cartoon rectified the error, making the animation match the toys by simply switching the characters&#039; names around.&lt;br /&gt;
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As later incarnations of the characters draw on both the cartoon and toys as influences, the waters have become muddier still:&lt;br /&gt;
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Items in the following table are listed in release order.  E.g., the original toys came first.&lt;br /&gt;
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{|border=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; cellspacing=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; cellpadding=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
!&lt;br /&gt;
!&#039;&#039;&#039;Frenzy&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
!&#039;&#039;&#039;Rumble&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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|&#039;&#039;&#039;Original toys&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:White;background-color:Blue;&amp;quot;| Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:Black;background-color:Red;&amp;quot;| Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&#039;&#039;&#039;Marvel comics&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:White;background-color:Blue;&amp;quot;| Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:Black;background-color:Red;&amp;quot;| Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Ladybird Books]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:Black;background-color:White;&amp;quot;|none&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:Black;background-color:Red;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Kid Stuff]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:Black;background-color:White;&amp;quot;|none&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:Black;background-color:Red;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&#039;&#039;&#039;US cartoon&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:Black;background-color:Red;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:White;background-color:Blue;&amp;quot;|Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&#039;&#039;&#039;Japanese cartoon&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:White;background-color:Blue;&amp;quot;|Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:Black;background-color:Red;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&#039;&#039;&#039;Dreamwave comics&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:White;background-color:Blue;&amp;quot;|Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:Black;background-color:Red;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&#039;&#039;&#039;Devil&#039;s Due comics&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:Black;background-color:Red;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:White;background-color:Blue;&amp;quot;|Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&#039;&#039;&#039;IDW comics&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:White;background-color:Blue;&amp;quot;|Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:Black;background-color:Red;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&#039;&#039;&#039;Alternators toys&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:Black;background-color:White;&amp;quot;|None&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:Black;background-color:Red;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&#039;&#039;&#039;Diamond Select&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:Black;background-color:Red;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:White;background-color:Blue;&amp;quot;|Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&#039;&#039;&#039;Music Label earphones&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:White;background-color:Blue;&amp;quot;|Blue&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:Black;background-color:Red;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&#039;&#039;&#039;Robot Heroes&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:Black;background-color:White;&amp;quot;|None&lt;br /&gt;
|style=&amp;quot;color:Black;background-color:Red;&amp;quot;|Red&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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It is generally agreed that pointing out Rumble was actually kinda purple in the original cartoon is not helpful (particularly since he still has blue in the places where Frenzy has red). Nor is pointing out the fact that for a brief moment in the movie (when Rumble, Frenzy, Ratbat, and Ravage jam Blaster&#039;s transmission) &#039;&#039;both&#039;&#039; of them were red. Or that Marvel US&#039; colouring had Rumble as red &#039;&#039;and blue&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
==Footnotes==&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://derrickjwyatt.blogspot.com/2008/12/first-we-crack-shell.html Derrick Wyatt&#039;s opinion, quoted above.]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://khaamar.deviantart.com/art/All-Hail-Megatron-9-cover-112520321 Likewise, the source for Joana LaFuente&#039;s response.]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffvrLk_6Seo#t=28s Shane McCarthy&#039;s response during IDW&#039;s panel at San Diego Comic-Con 2008.]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.lilformers.com/index.php/2007/03/20/lil-formers-38-rumblefrenzy/ LilFormers&#039; answer to this dilemma.]&lt;br /&gt;
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