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		<title>Talk:Furmanism</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;209.215.63.240: /* DOWN TO EARTH--LITERALLY! */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This is awesome.  In a &amp;quot;so bad it&#039;s good&amp;quot; sort of way. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 23:26, 26 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is obviously an incomplete list.  I also have some that were only repeated once, sometimes in differing forms, which I won&#039;t add to the page proper until we find at least one more iteration.  If you can find more of any of these, feel free to add them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s my remainder:&lt;br /&gt;
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===TIME TO MAKE A STAND===&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;If I turn away now, I&#039;ll just keep on turning away.  Sometimes you have to make a STAND!&amp;quot; -- [[Carnivac]], {{storylink|Way of the Warrior}}, UK #237&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Instead of running around like headless chickens we should be trying to HELP her!  I say we make a STAND!&amp;quot; -- [[Thunderpunch]], {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}, US #75&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===WHOLE WORLD OF PAIN===&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Get ready, quite literally... for a whole WORLD of pain!&amp;quot; -- Starscream, G2 #11&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;It&#039;s about PAIN, Megatron... here&#039;s a whole WORLD of it!&amp;quot; -- Starscream, TWWv1 #3&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===DOWN TO EARTH--LITERALLY!===&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Aww, did I bring the poor Autobot &#039;&#039;down to earth&#039;&#039; with a bump?&amp;quot; --&#039;&#039;&#039;Rumble, &#039;&#039;Transformers: Generation 2&#039;&#039; #6&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Let&#039;s bring these latter-generation big shots &#039;&#039;down to earth&#039;&#039;!&amp;quot; --&#039;&#039;&#039;Skydive, &#039;&#039;Transformers: Generation 2&#039;&#039; #10&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:27, 26 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;m waaaay too comfortable lying on my couch here to go upstairs and find the book and check, but I want to say Swoop did the whole &amp;quot;better to die than run&amp;quot; shtick when the Dinobots were fighting the demons in #76...? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 23:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Indeed!  Good memory.  Hold on... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Call me humorless if you wish- ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Normally, I love the humor here. I like that we don&#039;t always take everything seriously. However, I think this article is taking things a little far. Boo to this section, basically. Boo-urns, in fact. It feels like it&#039;s trashing Furman for no good reason. And I&#039;ve never heard ANYONE say- &amp;quot;Hey, a similar bit of dialogue in a Simon Furman comic! Must be a Furmanism!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And, seriously,you don&#039;t think some of it is intentional (particularly issue 67)? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I just don&#039;t see how this has a place here. --DJ Convoy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:...I saw it as a celebration of Furmanisms, actually.   -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:35, 27 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Pretty much.  Furman is my main man.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:53, 27 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m sure there&#039;s gotta be more IT NEVER ENDSes than the three I got, right? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 09:56, 28 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Well, uh, I wasn&#039;t counting the IT NEVER ENDSes on purpose, because Furman does those on purpose, as an intentional self-referential running-gag to his original G1 send-off letter.  I don&#039;t think it really belongs in this article, as such.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, being a cartoon-centric guy I didn&#039;t actually know what the original source of it was. It still strikes me as qualifying as a &amp;quot;Furmanism&amp;quot; though, albeit with a note in the article about it&#039;s origin and nature. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:43, 3 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;d never called them Furmanisms before now either, but I do now.  As for disrespect... Well, I think a Transfan has to kinda be a Furman fan by definition really.  --[[User:82.41.82.183|82.41.82.183]] 22:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Not so.  I&#039;m a Transformers fan and I don&#039;t like Furman&#039;s writing much at all.  However, I&#039;ve heard the term &amp;quot;Furmanism&amp;quot; for years online, so it makes sense for this article to exist.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 23:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== REAP THE WHIRLWILD ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Simon must be a huge Young Guns fan. =D--[[User:Speedbreaker|Speedbreaker]] 04:24, 12 March 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Isn&#039;t it from the bible though? &amp;quot;They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind&amp;quot;, something along those lines? [[User:70.53.249.237|70.53.249.237]] 22:31, 18 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== On predatory birds and hovering thereof ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Seriously, we really should include those. Yes, yes, it was only used one other time... but it&#039;s by far the most unique of them all. Also, hilarious. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 01:52, 10 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another Time And Place Furmanisms? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I seem to recall the Another Time And Place text story ending with the &amp;quot;It Never Ends&amp;quot; furmanism.. can anyone confirm? [[User:70.53.249.237|70.53.249.237]] 22:31, 18 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: It does.  Though I&#039;m still iffy on its inclusion in this article without some sort of disclaimer, as he purposefully includes it all the freakin&#039; time (like even in the You Can Draw Transformers book) as some sort of calling card.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:42, 18 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: If he includes it on purpose, wouldn&#039;t that make it that much more a Furmanism?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 03:13, 19 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I think it would. [[User:70.53.249.237|70.53.249.237]] 03:17, 19 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: In fact, we should have the article end with that section, with the last one being the one from the You Can Draw Transformers book. [[User:Kaosu Reido|Kaosu Reido]] 20:09, 2 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: He uses it in that book too? HAH! This article should totally do what Kaosu just said it should do. [[User:70.55.211.238|70.55.211.238]] 06:59, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Down to earth ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I spotted the phrase &#039;&#039;down to earth&#039;&#039;--used in a &#039;&#039;&#039;literal&#039;&#039;&#039; sense--in two issues of &#039;&#039;Transformers: Generation 2&#039;&#039; (#6, &amp;quot;The Gathering Darkness&amp;quot;; #10, &amp;quot;War Dawn&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;-Jeff Steele&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Furmanism&amp;diff=95803</id>
		<title>Talk:Furmanism</title>
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		<updated>2007-08-02T08:55:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;209.215.63.240: DOWN TO EARTH--LITERALLY!&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This is awesome.  In a &amp;quot;so bad it&#039;s good&amp;quot; sort of way. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 23:26, 26 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is obviously an incomplete list.  I also have some that were only repeated once, sometimes in differing forms, which I won&#039;t add to the page proper until we find at least one more iteration.  If you can find more of any of these, feel free to add them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s my remainder:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===TIME TO MAKE A STAND===&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;If I turn away now, I&#039;ll just keep on turning away.  Sometimes you have to make a STAND!&amp;quot; -- [[Carnivac]], {{storylink|Way of the Warrior}}, UK #237&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Instead of running around like headless chickens we should be trying to HELP her!  I say we make a STAND!&amp;quot; -- [[Thunderpunch]], {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}, US #75&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===WHOLE WORLD OF PAIN===&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Get ready, quite literally... for a whole WORLD of pain!&amp;quot; -- Starscream, G2 #11&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;It&#039;s about PAIN, Megatron... here&#039;s a whole WORLD of it!&amp;quot; -- Starscream, TWWv1 #3&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===DOWN TO EARTH--LITERALLY!===&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Aww, did I bring the poor Autobot &#039;&#039;down to earth&#039;&#039; with a bump?&amp;quot; --&#039;&#039;&#039;Rumble, &#039;&#039;Transformers: Generation 2&#039;&#039; #6&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Let&#039;s bring these latter-generation big shots &#039;&#039;down to earth&#039;&#039;!&amp;quot; --&#039;&#039;&#039;Skydive, &#039;&#039;Transformers: Generation 2&#039;&#039; #10&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:27, 26 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m waaaay too comfortable lying on my couch here to go upstairs and find the book and check, but I want to say Swoop did the whole &amp;quot;better to die than run&amp;quot; shtick when the Dinobots were fighting the demons in #76...? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 23:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Indeed!  Good memory.  Hold on... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Call me humorless if you wish- ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Normally, I love the humor here. I like that we don&#039;t always take everything seriously. However, I think this article is taking things a little far. Boo to this section, basically. Boo-urns, in fact. It feels like it&#039;s trashing Furman for no good reason. And I&#039;ve never heard ANYONE say- &amp;quot;Hey, a similar bit of dialogue in a Simon Furman comic! Must be a Furmanism!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And, seriously,you don&#039;t think some of it is intentional (particularly issue 67)? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I just don&#039;t see how this has a place here. --DJ Convoy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:...I saw it as a celebration of Furmanisms, actually.   -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:35, 27 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Pretty much.  Furman is my main man.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:53, 27 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m sure there&#039;s gotta be more IT NEVER ENDSes than the three I got, right? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 09:56, 28 November 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Well, uh, I wasn&#039;t counting the IT NEVER ENDSes on purpose, because Furman does those on purpose, as an intentional self-referential running-gag to his original G1 send-off letter.  I don&#039;t think it really belongs in this article, as such.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, being a cartoon-centric guy I didn&#039;t actually know what the original source of it was. It still strikes me as qualifying as a &amp;quot;Furmanism&amp;quot; though, albeit with a note in the article about it&#039;s origin and nature. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:43, 3 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;d never called them Furmanisms before now either, but I do now.  As for disrespect... Well, I think a Transfan has to kinda be a Furman fan by definition really.  --[[User:82.41.82.183|82.41.82.183]] 22:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Not so.  I&#039;m a Transformers fan and I don&#039;t like Furman&#039;s writing much at all.  However, I&#039;ve heard the term &amp;quot;Furmanism&amp;quot; for years online, so it makes sense for this article to exist.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 23:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== REAP THE WHIRLWILD ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Simon must be a huge Young Guns fan. =D--[[User:Speedbreaker|Speedbreaker]] 04:24, 12 March 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Isn&#039;t it from the bible though? &amp;quot;They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind&amp;quot;, something along those lines? [[User:70.53.249.237|70.53.249.237]] 22:31, 18 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== On predatory birds and hovering thereof ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Seriously, we really should include those. Yes, yes, it was only used one other time... but it&#039;s by far the most unique of them all. Also, hilarious. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 01:52, 10 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Another Time And Place Furmanisms? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I seem to recall the Another Time And Place text story ending with the &amp;quot;It Never Ends&amp;quot; furmanism.. can anyone confirm? [[User:70.53.249.237|70.53.249.237]] 22:31, 18 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: It does.  Though I&#039;m still iffy on its inclusion in this article without some sort of disclaimer, as he purposefully includes it all the freakin&#039; time (like even in the You Can Draw Transformers book) as some sort of calling card.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:42, 18 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: If he includes it on purpose, wouldn&#039;t that make it that much more a Furmanism?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 03:13, 19 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I think it would. [[User:70.53.249.237|70.53.249.237]] 03:17, 19 June 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: In fact, we should have the article end with that section, with the last one being the one from the You Can Draw Transformers book. [[User:Kaosu Reido|Kaosu Reido]] 20:09, 2 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: He uses it in that book too? HAH! This article should totally do what Kaosu just said it should do. [[User:70.55.211.238|70.55.211.238]] 06:59, 4 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== DOWN TO EARTH--LITERALLY! ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I spotted the phrase &#039;&#039;down to earth&#039;&#039;--used in a &#039;&#039;&#039;literal&#039;&#039;&#039; sense--in two issues of &#039;&#039;Transformers: Generation 2&#039;&#039; (#6, &amp;quot;The Gathering Darkness&amp;quot;; #10, &amp;quot;War Dawn&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;-Jeff Steele&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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