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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;212.183.117.184: /* Who is Megadyne? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== God ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How should we treat Epps&#039; question in ROTF? - &amp;quot;You gotta wonder. If God made Man in his image, who made him?&amp;quot; This seems similar to Sam&#039;s &amp;quot;What would Jesus do?&amp;quot; question in the first film, so should God get his own page too? Not to mention that God was also mentioned in Masterforce episode 14, where Ginrai&#039;s friend Sam mentions that Ginrai&#039;s powers must&#039;ve come from God. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 09:58, 3 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:First of all, i think we need to quote him. Secound, we need to state that what we think what god is is not the same thing thransformers think it is.(even in difrent religions we don&#039;t believe in the same god)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 10:06, 3 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Quote who? Ginrai&#039;s friend Sam? Here&#039;s the dialogue - &lt;br /&gt;
::Ginrai: &amp;quot;Sam, I&#039;m sorry. Because of me, you-&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
::Sam: &amp;quot;Stop it. I know you all too well. God had to have been the one who gave you the ability to change into that form.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
::Ginrai: &amp;quot;God...?&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Kami-sama...?&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sam: &amp;quot;He&#039;s telling you that you have to protect everyone. I knew as soon as you told me about your mysterious ability.&amp;quot; --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 10:19, 3 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Something like this maybe?&lt;br /&gt;
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::{{disambig2|the maker of Mankind|used as an adjective|God}}&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;God is a [[god]] in the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] and [[Movie (franchise)|Movie]] [[continuity family|continuity families]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;God&#039;&#039;&#039; is the creator of [[human|mankind]].  He may have, directly or indirectly, given [[Ginrai]] the ability to [[Transformation|transform]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::&#039;&#039;Japanese name:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Kami-sama&#039;&#039;&#039; (神様)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just throwing it out there. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:20, 3 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;m pretty okay with that.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:06, 3 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Should we remove the Transformer gods from this article and put them in a &amp;quot;See also&amp;quot; section then? Or make a separate article for Transformer gods? -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 12:16, 3 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alleged?==&lt;br /&gt;
What is with the designation of Unicron, Primus and the Chronarchitect as &amp;quot;alleged&amp;quot; gods? There&#039;s really nothing alleged about it, is there? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:57, 3 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Japan ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Stupid question: Is &amp;quot;god&amp;quot; as Japan uses it all over the place a translation from English or are they using the English word &amp;quot;god&amp;quot;?  - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:24, 3 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:They&#039;re using the English word. {{unsigned|173.71.84.186}}&lt;br /&gt;
::How did you decided that?  I&#039;ve generally seen Primus referred to as the &amp;quot;creator&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;god&amp;quot;, but with the Japanese equivalent words.&lt;br /&gt;
::Of course, you say &amp;quot;all over the place,&amp;quot; Starfield, which means ANY use of the term &amp;quot;god&amp;quot;, whether it refers to Primus or not, whether it&#039;s in a TF-related context or not.  I&#039;m guessing you meant strictly in relation to Primus.  (I don&#039;t believe &amp;quot;god&amp;quot; has ever been used in reference to Unicron in Japan.)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 22:37, 3 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yea, I wasn&#039;t very clear. I meant &amp;quot;Super-God Masterforce,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;God Ginrai,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Godmaster,&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Godbomber&amp;quot; types of things. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:47, 3 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Oh, as part of TF names!  Yes, in that case, all of the above except &amp;quot;super-god&amp;quot; use the English word &amp;quot;god&amp;quot; as part of the names.  &amp;quot;Super-god&amp;quot; is a literal translation of &amp;quot;chōjin&amp;quot; (超神).--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 23:47, 3 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Who is Megadyne? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Yes, I&#039;ve been wondering about him a while now. I was told that he&#039;s a not so well known god who appeared in official material almost nobody knows about, but he doesn&#039;t even seem to be mentioned anywhere on this wiki or google. So who is he? --[[Special:Contributions/91.113.118.119|91.113.118.119]] 19:39, 25 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:So far as I can tell, it&#039;s a fan character.  I can&#039;t find any evidence of them appearing in official material. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:18, 25 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, that&#039;s exactly my problem. I looked it up again - she said Megadyne made his appearance in 1985 Transformers &#039;Metatisic&#039; saga and that he was the Decepticon counterpart of Primus. Nobody knows what &#039;Metatisic&#039; is, she doesn&#039;t answer my question and apparently nothing can be found about this so called official material. Maybe she really just made something up for reasons unknown... --[[Special:Contributions/212.183.117.184|212.183.117.184]] 16:30, 4 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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