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{{disambig2|the Transformers faction|the &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; episode|The Decepticons}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Symbol decept reg.jpg|right|236px|thumb|Get a tattoo of this and all you&#039;ll need will be a black trenchcoat and a long ponytail.  Then people will love you.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Decepticon&#039;&#039;&#039; (di-sep-ti-con ) A member of a subversive sect or society.  From the noun — &#039;decepticon&#039;; one who deceives.|the New Cybertronic Dictograph&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The letters page of Marvel UK#33&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;Decepticons&#039;&#039;&#039; are one of the primary factions in the &#039;&#039;[[Transformer]]s&#039;&#039; mythos. They are typically concerned with such things as galactic conquest, defeating the [[Autobot]]s, amassing large quantities of [[Energon (fuel)|energon]], developing powerful weaponry, and beating people up. Not necessarily in that order. &lt;br /&gt;
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Unlike the Autobots, whose leader is a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] bearing a [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]], the Decepticons are led by the [[Decepticon leader|most powerful]] of their ranks. This tends to cause some conflict, given how everyone thinks that they&#039;re the most powerful. Also, the Decepticons are not exactly the most compassionate beings in the universe, but not all fight for greed. More than a few have a sense of honor, while others believe that [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] would be better protected by [[Decepticon Empire|aggressive expansion]]. Ultimately, the Decepticons desire to protect their homeworld, even if it is at the expense of others. [[Shattered Glass|Usually]].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|The Decepticons are a malevolent race of robot warriors, brutal and merciless. The Decepticons are led by a single undeviating goal:  total domination of the universe.|Narrator|[[Secret Files of Teletraan II]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Japanese name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Destron&#039;&#039;&#039; (デストロン, &#039;&#039;de-su-to-ro-n&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;French name (France, G1 cartoon)&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Decepticans&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Hungarian name (Marvel comic)&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Álcák&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Disguises&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Hungarian name (toy commercial)&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Decepticonok&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Hungarian name (&#039;&#039;Energon/Cybertron&#039;&#039;)&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Robotikák&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Roboticas&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Hungarian name (Movie, first dub)&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Varangyok&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Toads&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Hungarian name (Movie, second dub)&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Decepticonok&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Italian name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Distructors&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Polish name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Deceptikony&#039;&#039;&#039; (full name); &#039;&#039;&#039;Decepci&#039;&#039;&#039; (as a short)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Polish name (Movie, first dub)&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Decepcjokony&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deceptiocons? What the?)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Portuguese name (Portugal comic):&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Decépticos&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Portuguese name (Brazil comic):&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Malignus&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Serbian name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Deseptikoni&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Swedish name (Marvel comic)&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Bedragarna&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Generation 1==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Marvel Comics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Introdump decepticons marvelus01.jpg|left|250px|thumb|All right. We all know our names, abilities, and attitudes, so we&#039;re good to go.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The Decepticons emerged from the gladiatorial [[State Games]], which caused [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]&#039;s rise to public prominence - in the aftermath of the destructive Vos-Tarn War, Megatron was able to use his fame and charisma to unite both the survivors and the planet&#039;s malcontents into a new army. His plan was to turn Cybertron into a mobile cosmic dreadnought and conquer the galaxy. The Decepticons developed new technology to allow them to transform into attack vehicles and weaponry, launching a devastating attack that killed billions and shook the planet from its orbit before [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] turned the tide.&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron, Shockwave and others were lost on Earth for four million years; as Optimus was too, the Autobots swiftly lost ground to Decepticon leaders [[Trannis]] and [[Straxus (G1)|Straxus]]. Cybertron was devastated and conquered, causing the cream of the Decepticons to leave the burnt-out planet to form a [[Cybertronian Empire]] out in the stars, while Straxus threw all those he considered weak into the [[Smelting pool]]. The Empire would go on to slaughter and Cyberform planet after planet, their actions unknown on Cybertron.&lt;br /&gt;
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Eventually the Earth-bound Decepticons would awaken in 1984, sparking off a new front in the war. After the presumed suicide of Megatron, an escalation in fighting would see Decepticon leadership fragment and change hands rapidly, with frequent clashes, plots and counter-plots between the primary leadership, namely [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], and [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], until most of them were killed in the [[Underbase]] conflict, leaving Scorponok the only surviving commander. A brief truce with the Autobots was held when [[Unicron]] attacked in 1991, but Scorponok was killed in the following conflict. Immediately after this, [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] came to power. Charismatic and driven, Bludgeon turned the beaten Decepticons into a new army; after a defeat on [[Klo]], they regrouped and reorganised. ([[Another Time and Place|In one reality, they were immediately massacred afterward.]])&lt;br /&gt;
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====Earthforce====&lt;br /&gt;
In the side-continuity of [[Earthforce]], while Unicron continued on to Cybertron, Megatron and Shockwave continued a Decepticon civil war on Earth with a small handful of troops - wasting most of their time trying to take each other out. Eventually Soundwave and Starscream overthrew them, uniting both factions into a stronger Decepticon force. The two former leaders attempted to regain their position but never appeared to succeed.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Generation 2====&lt;br /&gt;
Bludgeon invaded Earth with the intention of capturing the Matrix and making a new generation of Decepticons, but Megatron returned, killed Bludgeon in one-on-one combat, and stole this plan. However, the threat of the Cybertronian Empire forced an alliance between the Autobots and Decepticons again.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Classics====&lt;br /&gt;
===Cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
====Season 1 &amp;amp; 2====&lt;br /&gt;
In the various continuities descending from [[Generation 1]], the Decepticons and the [[Autobot]]s are the two great powers in the Transformer population. The factions, however, are not a complete set -- there are Transformers who are unaffiliated / neutral, or even members of smaller or splinter factions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Many G1 timelines actually credit [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] as the founder of the Decepticons, not merely its most recent leader.  In contrast, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] is almost always depicted as only the latest in a long line of [[Prime (rank)|Primes]] or [[Matrix Bearer]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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Eventually, the Decepticons managed to take control of all of Cybertron, forcing the Autobots to operate on Cybertron&#039;s two moons, but [[Autobot City]] on [[Earth]] was viewed as the greater threat. The Decepticons overtook a supply shuttle and launched an [[Battle of Autobot City|attack]], with disastrous consequences for the Autobots. The battle saw one of the Decepticons&#039; long held dreams achieved in the death of Optimus Prime, but Megatron was damaged, and left to rot in deep space. [[Unicron]] reformatted him into [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], and Galvatron attempted to enslave Unicron with the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. When Unicron attacked Cybertron, most of the Decepticon forces on the planet were wiped out, allowing the Autobots to retake control of the planet. &lt;br /&gt;
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====Season 3 &amp;amp; 4====&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|Once the Decepticons held the quadrant through terror, now we scrap like [[Slaarg]]s over a few [[energon cube]]s.|[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]]|[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Times would turn harsh for the Decepticons who were forced to abandon their homeworld of Cybertron and were exiled to the burnt out planet of [[Chaar]]. There they would face constant energy shortages and engage in constant inter-fighting, as well as suffer from a lack of leadership. From this chaos came [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] and the [[Sweep]]s, who hatched a plan of finding Galvatron who would lead the Decepticons once more.&lt;br /&gt;
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Eventually, the Autobots, led by a resurrected Optimus Prime, managed to finally defeat the Decepticons.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Dreamwave===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DeceptLitho.jpg|left|150px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
The Decepticons arose out of the [[Gladiatorial combat|underground fights]] that Megatron once partook in. After discovering certain secrets about Cybertron&#039;s origin, including massive [[planetary engine]]s, Megatron began using the games to recruit combatants. For nearly half a million years, they grew in numbers and trained, until they rebelled against the [[Council of Ancients]] and took [[Kaon]] by force.&lt;br /&gt;
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While the war raged on, the Constructicons repaired the engines and introduced a mecha-forming process, but what they really needed was a power source. Megatron became convinced that he could find one powerful enough within the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]], which was in the possession of [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]. However, when Megatron finally killed the Prime, he discovered that it was not within him. Soon after, Optronix became Optimus Prime, and Megatron initiated a plan: an assassination team under Communications Officer [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] would elimate the Prime and claim the Matrix, while Military Operations Commander [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] would lay siege to Iacon, preventing the Autobots from coming to Prime&#039;s rescue.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, Megatron made two mistakes: he informed Air Commander [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] of his intentions, and he underestimated Optimus Prime. The Prime managed to erase some of Megatron&#039;s memories of what he discovered, while Starscream activated the mechaforming process using energy from the planetary engines. The engines were destroyed before the process was complete, ruining both. {{storylink|The War Within}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After Megatron disappeared with Optimus Prime in a space bridge test, Shockwave became Decepticon leader, though Starscream and High Auditor [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] broke off with their own splinter factions shortly afterwards. The Decepticons allied with [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]&#039;s Autobots and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]&#039;s [[Lightning Strike Coalition]] (an Autobot splinter group), to stop the machinations of the [[The Fallen|Fallen]]. {{storylink|The War Within: The Dark Ages}} Several thousand years later, Shockwave was prepared to sign a peace treaty with [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], who had become Autobot leader, the LSC, and Ratbat&#039;s [[Ultracon]]. However, Megatron returned with the [[Aerospace Extermination Squadron]], an army of [[Quintesson]] created [[Seeker]] drones, whose abilities allowed the Decepticons to fully conquer Cybertron and enslave the Autobots. The Decepticons&#039; control over Cybertron was ended when Optimus Prime returned to Cybertron and the Air Warriors were defeated. {{storylink|The War Within: The Age of Wrath}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When Megatron disappeared along with the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; crew, Shockwave again emerged as Decepticon leader, this time as head of a triumvirate including Ratbat and [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]. With [[Energon (fuel)|energon]] becoming scarce, Shockwave agreed to work with Ultra Magnus and [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] in the creation of the [[Micromaster]]s, Transformers who were downsized for better fuel efficiency. Shockwave suffered a rebellion when [[Skystalker]] overthrew him, using Shockwave&#039;s severed head as a tool. {{storylink|Micromasters}} However, all Transformers on Cybertron entered [[stasis lock]] when the [[Great Shutdown]] occurred.&lt;br /&gt;
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Around 1,000 B.C.E., Shockwave was reactivated by Scourge, and then defeated the Unicronian Transformer. Studying Scourge and discovering some of the secrets Megatron had learned, Shockwave made peace with the Autobots, installing himself as Head of State with an [[Autobot High Council]] as a legislature, while Ultra Magnus became his senior security officer. However, the High Councillors were unsuited for peace time government, and gradually gave Shockwave more and more power... which is exactly what he had planned.&lt;br /&gt;
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On Earth, the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; crew was reawakened in 1984. Cut off from Cybertron, the Decepticons concluded that they had no other choice but to conquer the planet. Megatron soon learned that others had come looking for them, including [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] and the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dynobots]]. The Decepticons captured Jetfire and the Dinobots except Grimlock, and used the hostage situation to force Grimlock to serve the Decepticons. Additionally, the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] located Earth and served under Megatron. In 1998, the Autobots allied with humanity to defeat the Decepticons. They were to be returned to Cybertron in the &#039;&#039;[[Ark II]]&#039;&#039;, but Shockwave, through a human intermediary, sabotaged the &#039;&#039;Ark II&#039;&#039;, causing the ship to crash and send the Transformers aboard into stasis lock.&lt;br /&gt;
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Renegade members of the [[United States Military]] managed to capture the Decepticons and a number of Autobots, intending to use them as instruments of war, but [[Lazarus|Adam Rook]] later stole them and set himself up as an arms dealer. Unfortunately, Megatron overwhelmed the programming that kept him a prisoner, and freed the other Decepticons. Megatron then intended to unleash a technovirus on Earth, but the Autobots defeated him. {{storylink|Prime Directive}}&lt;br /&gt;
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A year later, Shockwave arrived to tie up loose ends, quickly capturing Megatron and the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; crew. Starscream ejected Megatron out of the ship carrying them to Cybertron, leaving him to die in space. The &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; crew were granted amnesty, but Starscream quickly recruited them into going back to Earth to conquer the planet, taking the [[Combaticon]]s with them. Shockwave was finally overthrown when Optimus Prime united the Autobot resistance groups, but he escaped with a small number of troops. {{storylink|War and Peace}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, Megatron was rescued by [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]], who repaired his memory loss. Using some recovered Air Warriors, Megatron located the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]], who were used to take control of Shockwave&#039;s small army. On Earth, Starscream&#039;s failures during [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]&#039;s rampage were reason enough to convince the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; crew to mutiny against Starscream in Megatron&#039;s favor. With two combiner teams, an army of seekers, Soundwave&#039;s cassettes, and knowledge of Earth&#039;s connection to Cybertron, Megatron prepared to lead the Decepticons on the conquests of Earth and Cybertron  {{storylink|Generation One (Dreamwave comic)|G1 ongoing}}...&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|...At which point Dreamwave went bankrupt. Damn.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The Decepticons appear to have been formed out of the uprising in Kaon that Megatron spearheaded in  {{storylink|Megatron: Origin}}. They also may have completely abandoned Cybertron, and have bases set up on the worlds they&#039;ve captured or space stations as seen in {{storylink|Spotlight: Sixshot}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Aftermath===&lt;br /&gt;
Both sides signed the [[Pax Cybertronia]], which eventually led to peace, but left the Decepticons in a second class position.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Beast Era==&lt;br /&gt;
In &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; continuity, the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]] were the descendants of the Decepticons and fought with the same aggression and ideas of conquest. They faced the [[Maximal]]s in the same way their ancestors had fought the [[Autobot]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Robots in Disguise==&lt;br /&gt;
In the [[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|&#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; cartoon]], the Decepticons were a brand new faction that came into being during the events of the story. Because there were so few Decepticons (only six or seven), and because they were a subset of the [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] antagonists, they can almost be viewed as a [[subgroup]] rather than a proper faction. The RiD Decepticons were created on Earth when [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]]&#039;s forces captured a set of [[stasis pod]]s from an ancient Transformer spaceship that had been found on [[Earth]], leading to the birth of the [[Commando]]s and [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]]. The toy version of [[Megatron (RID)|Galvatron]] was also labeled as a Decepticon, although this &amp;quot;change&amp;quot; in the character&#039;s faction was only mentioned once in the cartoon series.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the Japanese version of RiD, &#039;&#039;[[Car Robots]]&#039;&#039;, the Decepticons were known as Combatrons. This is the same name by which the [[Combaticon|G1 Combaticons]] were called in Japan.&lt;br /&gt;
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For the [[Hasbro]] toy line, several other non-show Decepticons were added to the ranks to help fill out the line. It is unknown how most of these actually fit into the story, though one of them, [[Axer]], is actually a dimension-hopper who arrived from the [[Generation 1]] universe.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animated continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====Armada====&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;exact&#039;&#039; origins of the Decepticon faction are a bit muddled. It is widely assumed, though never directly confirmed, that the movement was founded by [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]]. Also, the enslavement of the power-enhancing [[Mini-Con]]s is considered to be the impetus to the Decepticons&#039; rise to a massive multi-planet-spanning army, though at what point in the war this occurred is unclear; it&#039;s possible the Mini-Cons&#039; arrival was what gave Megatron the opportunity to rise to power, or that they arrived after the war had already begun.&lt;br /&gt;
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Either way, the Mini-Cons fueled the war machine for centuries, and the war with the [[Autobot]]s soon spread from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to other worlds. The self-imposed exile of the Mini-Cons to an unknown destination was seen as a major setback for the Decepticons (and something of a pyrrhic victory for the Autobots), but despite this, the war continued, as both sides had amassed a large enough power base to continue on without the little buggers. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Autobots and Decepticons seemed to fight to a stalemate, neither able to gain a distinct advantage over the other. When a signal reached Cybertron centuries later that the Mini-Cons had landed on [[Earth]], it seemed neither side was capable of sending a full force to retrieve them, despite the power they contained. Though the Decepticon force sent to Earth was small in numbers, it was far from insignificant; Megatron himself led the squad, backed by some of his most trusted warriors.&lt;br /&gt;
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When Megatron returned to Cybertron, the overwhelming majority of the Mini-Cons were in the protective custody of the Autobots, but Megatron was unfazed; he had assembled the Mini-Cons required to make the three legendary weapons: the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber]], [[Skyboom (Armada)|Skyboom Shield]] and [[Requiem Blaster]]. Bolstered by this new power and the apparent death of [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]], Megatron attempted to take Cybertron once and for all. &lt;br /&gt;
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But Megatron&#039;s return to Cybertron was the beginning of the end of the Decepticon army.  When [[Unicron]] revealed himself as a threat to both armies, fueled by the negative psychic energies from centuries of death and destruction, the two sides eventually joined together to beat back the planet-eater. Despite the truce, Megatron and Prime engaged in a brutal duel on the surface of the weakened Unicron after the three legendary weapons had been removed from his core. Realizing their battle was keeping Unicron active, Megatron sacrificed himself, and both Unicron and Megatron disappeared into nothingness.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Energon====&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron&#039;s final orders to his troops still stood: work &#039;&#039;with&#039;&#039; the Autobots. The Decepticons maintained a degree of autonomy, still wearing the faction sigil and often taking military/defensive positions in the growing number of [[Energon (Energon)|energon]]-mining colonies, but they were ultimately answerable to Optimus Prime and the Autobots. There were, of course, dissenters, most of whom were captured and imprisoned. For a decade, Autobot and Decepticon worked side-by-side in a somewhat stable truce.&lt;br /&gt;
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Both sides found themselves the target of attacks from Unicron again; hordes of [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcon drones]], sent by [[Alpha Quintesson]] to steal energon ore with which to revive the now-shattered husk of Unicron. What the alien did not count on was that Megatron&#039;s [[spark]] had survived within the remains, and was siphoning energon from Unicron&#039;s body. Soon the Decepticon leader revived himself in a new form, drove off Alpha Quintesson, and along with an elite cadre of soldiers and a seemingly inexhaustible supply of mindless Terrorcon drones, began his &#039;&#039;new&#039;&#039; plans for conquest.&lt;br /&gt;
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When news of Megatron&#039;s return reached Cybertron, hundreds of Decepticons rose up and rebelled, eager to get back to conquering. But having been joined to Unicron for so long apparently had given Megatron a taste of godhood; he had no more interest in amassing a galaxy-spanning army of troops. Countless Decepticons died in the resulting battles, with Megatron more than willing to sacrifice them without a thought to attain ultimate power for himself.  As the &amp;quot;[[Powerlinx Battles]]&amp;quot; -as they came to be called- came to their climax, Megatron found that his actions and thoughts were being influenced and controlled by the dark spark of Unicron. Unwilling to let Unicron stand in his way, Megatron ultimately sacrificed himself (again) and seemingly destroyed Unicron&#039;s spark by plunging himself into a newly-formed energon sun created by [[Primus]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Cybertron====&lt;br /&gt;
What little remained of the once-mighty Decepticon army after [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron&#039;s]] loss was at best a loose association of criminals, thugs, and lunatics, with no real political or military power to speak of. For a decade, [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] was once again at peace, with the population overwhelmingly [[Autobot]] or neutral. The Transformers had withdrawn from [[Earth]] and its other colonies to focus on revitalizing their homeworld after the devastation of the Powerlinx Battles. However, two great catastrophes shattered this peace; the energon sun collapsed in on itself, forming the powerful black hole known as the [[Unicron Singularity]], which threatened to devour Cybertron and, if left unchecked, the entire universe... and the return yet once again of Megatron, who had absorbed much of what remained of Unicron&#039;s power.&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron&#039;s goal of attaining godhood was now at hand. By obtaining the legendary [[Omega Lock]] and the four [[Cyber Planet Key]]s, Megatron intended to accelerate the growth of the black hole, consuming the universe in a vast sea of nothingness that only he would survive, then use his powers to re-create the universe in his image.&lt;br /&gt;
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To this end, he had no need of an army. He gathered a small group of allies and lackeys to seek the items he needed, but they were nothing more than pawns to him, to be used and discarded at a whim.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Decepticons briefly regained their status as a mass army of individuals when [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], who had long suffered at Megatron&#039;s hands since the beginning of the Decepticons, made his own bid for ultimate power with the help of the [[Planet X]] agent [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]]. Having sealed Megatron and his troops in a trap, Starscream freed hundreds of criminal Transformers who had been locked up on [[Earth]] for millennia, and formed his own globe-spanning army. The Decepticon &amp;quot;Monsters&amp;quot; were tasked with finding the Omega Lock and Earth&#039;s Cyber Planet Key, which they eventually brought to their leader. However, numerous Decepticons were killed in the battles with the Autobots, and it soon became apparent that Starscream, like Megatron before him, didn&#039;t care. Most of these criminals soon abandoned Starscream and went into hiding.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for Megatron, he too had deserters among his own considerably-small ranks. Most notably, the powerful [[Scourge (Cybertron)|Scourge]], leader of the [[Jungle Planet]] and the colossal [[Menasor (Cybertron)|Menasor]] from [[Gigantion]], both of whom eventually joined forces with their former enemies the Autobots.&lt;br /&gt;
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This was not seen as a concern for Megatron, however, as by this time Starscream and his allies were seemingly destroyed on Gigantion, and Megatron (now calling himself &amp;quot;Galvatron&amp;quot; again) had the Omega Lock and all four Keys. What few Decepticons remained loyal to him were too stupid to see what Galvatron had planned, and made perfect distractions as he set his final plan in motion. If they weren&#039;t strong enough to survive the coming cataclysm, then so be it.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:NewDecepticonArmy.jpg|right|180px|thumb|The yutz, the ditz, the klutz, and the putz.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Ultimately, Galvatron&#039;s plan failed, and the Unicron Singularity was sealed. His remaining Decepticons quickly left him, realizing what was likely to have happened to them, and eventually joined the Autobots. After Galvatron&#039;s seemingly-final defeat and death in a one-on-one duel with [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron&#039;s]] moon, the Decepticons, not knowing when to quit, rose again, albeit in a rather pathetic fashion. Having cobbled together a rather rickety rocket, [[Ransack (Cybertron)|Ransack]], [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)|Crumplezone]] and [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)|Thunderblast]] shanghaied the reluctant [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]], who was &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; keen on being on the winning side for once, and flew off to parts unknown as the &amp;quot;[[New Decepticon Army]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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They made it to [[Mars]] before the rocket crash-landed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, the Autobot [[Wing Saber]] reported form a deep-space recon mission that he thought he had picked up traces of Starscream, seemingly backed up by Sideways and [[Soundwave (Cybertron)|Soundwave]]. [[Landmine (Energon)|Landmine]] and the former Decepticon [[Mudflap (Cybertron)|Mudflap]] raced off to join Wing Saber and investigate...&lt;br /&gt;
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===Comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====Armada====&lt;br /&gt;
Founded by Megatron, the exact number of the original Decepticons is unknown. Using the Mini-Cons as weapons, they were able to conquer Cybertron and force the Autobots underground. Eventually they were beaten due to the arrival of Unicron: his heralds slaughtered the entire Decepticon base on Cybertron, and the Chaos-Bringer&#039;s arrival forced them to join forces with the Autobots. With Megatron shot dead during the Unicron battle, the peace held for a period of years.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Live-action &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movies continuity==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Defiance3_wearenowDECEPTICONS.jpg|thumb|300px|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO9UWFSkJl4&amp;amp;feature=related So I give you... Super Mario Brothers... THREEEE !]]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Decepticons are the Transformers who sided with [[Megatron (Movie)|Lord High Protector Megatron]] and attempted to seize the [[All Spark]]. Their numbers ranged from the [[Starscream (Movie)|treacherous]], the [[Blackout (Movie)|fanatical]], the [[Brawl (Movie)|violent]], and the [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|treacherous fanatically violent]] to the [[Frenzy (Movie)|spastic]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The origins of these Decepticons began when a being known as [[The Fallen]] was trapped in his sarcophagus by [[Thirteen original Transformers|his brothers]] for his attempt to seize the power of the All Spark for himself. Thousands of years later when his sarcophagus is discovered by researchers, the Fallen discovered the latent aggressive edge in Megatron, Protector of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and filled him with dreams of power and paranoia of losing that power. Megatron reformed the peaceful protectors of Cybertron&#039;s defense force into a massive engine of war, ready to wipe out entire aliens species who would dare challenge them. When science leader [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime&#039;s]] opposition became known, Megatron branded them traitors and declared his followers to be the Decepticons. {{Storylink|Defiance}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The Decepticons overwhelmed the valiant yet peaceful Autobots, and Optimus Prime made the desperate decision to launch the All Spark into deep space. Megatron obsessively followed after it, and disappeared. [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] took over leadership, and began a search for Megatron and the All Spark. After a while, Starscream began to focus more on the All Spark, hoping Megatron would remain lost, something the other Decepticons began to suspect.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Titan23_decepticonsmassing.JPG|250px|left|thumb|Company photo day.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Decepticons are, in general, less human in appearance than the Autobots in the movie, resembling carnivorous mammals, birds, insects or the Decepticon insignia itself (possibly to frighten the [[Human|insects]]). The comics show that the Decepticons are overstretched on Cybertron: they use drone units to bolster their forces  {{storylink|Prelude: Optimus Prime}} and many of their outposts are mostly automated. {{storylink|Lost In Space 3: Ironhide}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In a departure from previous Transformers incarnations, Japan used the name &amp;quot;Decepticons&amp;quot; for this franchise, rather than &amp;quot;Destrons&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/products/movie/decepticons.html Movie Decepticons toy listing on Takaratomy.com]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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What is also most noticeable about the Decepticons in the movie franchise is that they&#039;ve actually been designed to resemble the insignia of their faction, most notably Megatron, Blackout, and Barricade.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Animated==&lt;br /&gt;
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4 million stellar cycles ago, the Autobots and Decepticons battled each other in what is now known as The Great War. The Autobots pulled a victory only due to their exclusive access to [[space bridge]]s and their decision to send the [[AllSpark (Animated)|AllSpark]] into deep space. Defeated, the Decepticons dispersed, and, according to [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]], the only sight of them would be an occasional scout ship. In fact, they had been missing for so long, [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] believed a Decepticon presence was a thing of the past. This was quickly reassessed upon encountering [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron&#039;s]] crew.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Decepticons in &#039;&#039;Transformers Animated&#039;&#039; are fought by the Autobots a lot less than in previous continuities, instead staying mostly in the background, thus making it more momentous whenever they do appear. To go with this plan, the Decepticons are, for the most part, stronger than the Autobots in this series.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Shattered Glass==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Decepticon Shattered Glass.png|right|180px|thumb|Decepticons wage their battles to destroy...]]&lt;br /&gt;
The Decepticons are a resistance group, intended to overthrow Autobot tyranny and their dastardly leader, [[Optimus Prime (Shattered Glass)|Optimus Prime]]. Led by the heroic [[Megatron (Shattered Glass)|Megatron]], the &#039;Cons want to liberate Cybertron and preserve freedom and life across the galaxy, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|no matter the cost]].  {{storylink|Shattered Glass}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Merchandise==&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers (2007)===&lt;br /&gt;
====Transformers Movie Screen Cleaners====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Movie Decepticon Screencleaner.jpg|right|105px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Decepticon&#039;&#039;&#039; (2008)&lt;br /&gt;
:Released by Tomy Yujin on January &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.gachausa.com/products/transformers.asp Tomy Yujin &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; page]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, this dangler is a [[Insignia|faction logo]]-shaped screen cleaner for your cell phone, with a stock image of Decepticon insignia printed on the other side.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Factions]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 1]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 2]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Machine Wars]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Predacon subgroups]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Robots in Disguise]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Missing word. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Drug Addicts&amp;quot; should be inserted between &amp;lt;I&amp;gt;now considered by many&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; and &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;to be the critical pinnacle&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; :-) [[User:Chaotic nipple|Chaotic nipple]] 19:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: I am going to have to ask you to leave. :-) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:24, 24 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Are you sure about that? If I leave, the halucinatory spiders will come to get you. SPIDERS!!!! [[User:Chaotic nipple|Chaotic nipple]] 03:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comic continuation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This became so long so quickly that I&#039;m hesitant to just dump it, but... it shouldn&#039;t be here.  We have individual story pages (or will) for the comics stories, and that is where their respective summaries should go.  This page concerns only the cartoon.  The [[Beast Wars]] franchise page provides links to other media of Beast Wars.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, none of the summarizing is written in the proper voice. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 12:57, 17 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Additionally, I strongly contest the claims made by ShadowHawk that Beast Machines is ignored by most fans, or that the IDW series is considered the &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; followup by most fans, so I removed the part about BM also.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Indeed.  I intended to remove that but failed to.  Thank you.  --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 15:19, 17 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok I admit you guys have valid points, but honestly though Beast Machines is ignored, especially with Beast Wars: Ascending series...nothing of the Beast Machinese Saga was mentioned or continued through that series and honestly i&#039;ve examined Beast Machines and it poorly reflects Beast Wars. Rhinox turning evil!? Megatron just happen to get lost in the warp portal and managed to get through ahead of time than the Maximals and already enslaved call of Cybertron to Vechicons!? The whole thing sounds crappy, but you guys are right so when are you guys able to start an article about the Beast Wars comic then? Here&#039;s the origninal wiki page [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beast_Wars:_The_Gathering Beast Wars: The Gathering] -ShadowHawk&lt;br /&gt;
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:Untrue, the moon from Beast Wars has appeared elsewhere!  ^_^&lt;br /&gt;
:Seriously though, BM -&amp;amp;gt; Universe -&amp;amp;gt; Fun Pub.  Characters originating with Beast Machines are &#039;&#039;still in circulation&#039;&#039;.  (Well, okay, I admit Sentinel Maximus isn&#039;t in circulation &#039;&#039;now&#039;&#039;, but he was up until the current arc, which continues directly from a story where he &#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039; running around.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:04, 18 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Shadowhawk, we don&#039;t need to &amp;quot;start&amp;quot; an article about it... we already &#039;&#039;have&#039;&#039; pages about [[The Gathering]], both as a series, and individual articles for each issue.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:26, 18 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Steve took my main point, but I also want to re-iterate that Beast Machines being &amp;quot;ignored&amp;quot; needs to be substantiated if it&#039;s going to be included here.  It sounds like a statement of canonical fact, which to my knowledge is not true.  If you&#039;re just stating your opinion about BM... this really isn&#039;t the place for it. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 04:31, 18 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:well pointed out, but whatever word you choose &amp;quot;ignore&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;void&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;revamp&amp;quot;..this whole matter is argumentative on that level because the fans are divided about what&#039;s canonical...in reality whoever owns the license rights tends to choose the direction of the series and have creative rights to change what has already happened, just look at Highlander 2...the hardcore fans hated it and it was redone several times because it was considered by majority that bad and I admit that I&#039;m biased against Beast Machines cause i really think the story was poorly written however i never once thought about adding my personal feelings or opinions into this...IDW created a story line parallel to Beast Wars about time contamination and so you might say Beast Machines did happen, but because of Razor Beast&#039;s and Magmatron&#039;s interference with the time line is yet again further changed so it might be one of those time paradox&#039;s where it did happen, but it&#039;s been erased. Either way I understand your positions and honestly guys i tried looking for that &amp;quot;The Gathering&amp;quot; page but nothing surfaced on this site other than wikipedia&#039;s version online so i thought no one added it in. You guys made a fair call so i&#039;m not going to challenge it, but I did write it based on the powers that control the direction of the Beast Wars universe currently and not in the past. I don&#039;t know about you guys, but those that control the license has a say what&#039;s canonical or not and right now the miniseries is by all technicality canonical. I apologize if i angered anyone, but seriously Beast Machines was like the Van Damne Street Fighter movie to me. There were some serious canonical flaws in there and that&#039;s why i&#039;m &amp;quot;up in arms&amp;quot; with it and I don&#039;t mean to offend.-ShadowHawk&lt;br /&gt;
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::Whoah, whoah, hold on, there.  Nobody&#039;s offended; calm down.  The thing is, while:&lt;br /&gt;
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::1) Beast Machines garnered a poor initial reaction, and&lt;br /&gt;
::2) IDW&#039;s comics may propose an alternate set of sequel-events for BW,&lt;br /&gt;
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::We cannot substantially say that 2) happened because of 1).  I haven&#039;t READ the BW comics yet, and neither our article nor Wikipedia&#039;s seems to detail exactly what about it even contradicts BM.&lt;br /&gt;
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::If I&#039;ve missed a point, then I apologize.  Your sentence structure is a little hard to read. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 14:46, 18 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Beast Machines is monumentally important to the overall franchise.  Most of what we know about sparks and the Matrix/Allspark came from there.  &amp;quot;The Gathering&amp;quot;&#039;s franchise contributions amount to the novelty of seeing Razorbeast standing up and talking.  Honestly, I think new would-be contributors should make an effort to read up on things like [[Canon]] and [[continuity families]] before they make proclamations about such on main article pages.    &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 18:44, 18 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The allspark thing was a canon conflict in it&#039;s own right. People tend to forget a certain race of 4 headed floating bots with tentacles are the progenitors of the transformers race. If you looked to the original series and compared to Beast Machines then you know that the spark concept was only a recent addition to give transformers a &amp;quot;soul.&amp;quot; Robert N. Skir created that conflict by explaining that transformers have their own version of life, death, and reincarnation. However if you&#039;ve watched every transformers so far they don&#039;t reborn any means smarter or experienced than they are. Look at Cheetor, does the man look any way experienced to you? I don&#039;t have a problem with the spark concept, it help explains a lot...however with the Quintessons and Allspark it&#039;s a complete conflict of story and logic behind transformer origins and physiology. I rather stick to the original story that the Quintessons were overthrown by their own creations versus the Allspark. With the Allspark, it suggests no matter how many transformers you can muster, there will always be a population limit to their growth. To even create more transformers would mean the older generation must be wiped cause no transformer dies of old age, only when destroyed. I like the idea that a transformer can be built from tools and machines versus needing a powerful device glowing over a technological objects to be born, but that&#039;s just me -ShadowHawk&lt;br /&gt;
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:None of these discrepancies are unique to Beast Machines.  Are you familiar with the [[Generation 1 (comic)|G1 comic]] continuity? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 07:46, 21 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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you&#039;re right these issues aren&#039;t just unique to beast machines but i was making a point to the other dude that argued the allspark was a great explanation to the more spiritual side of the transformers universe through beast machines...like i said before it&#039;s origins are very argumentative cause whoever has the rights to publish transformers stuff can say anything they want. If you&#039;re going comic on me, then it totally changes or dismiss the quintessons significance depending on which series or issue. Same goes with Primus as the &amp;quot;god&amp;quot; of transformers. I&#039;m just trying to prove my point of the canonical errors within Beast Machines and it&#039;s rough relation with G1. Oh you know me by now, very hardcore when it comes to the supposed &amp;quot;true&amp;quot; history of transformers. If they say the Allspark was something the Quintessons left behind in their creation of the transformers then that would explain so much and i would totally shut  my mouth up.- shadowhawk&lt;br /&gt;
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:Your arguments do not make any sense.  Your primary objection to Beast Machines now seems to be that it has some conflicts with the G1 cartoon, as if the G1 cartoon is the only true continuity, or as if the Beast shows even &#039;&#039;claimed&#039;&#039; that they were in the same continuity as the G1 cartoon, which they most definitely did not.  The Beast Wars writers repeatedly stated that their series was set in &#039;&#039;neither&#039;&#039; the G1 cartoon nor the G1 comic continuity.  BW and BM are set in a &#039;&#039;new continuity&#039;&#039; which is very similar to the G1 cartoon but with some notable differences, some drawn from the comics, and some entirely from the writers&#039; imaginations.  This is why we always list the Beast era fiction as its own tree instead of placing it under G1, even though the Beast fiction is part of the G1 continuity family.  Additionally, if all it would take to satisfy you is for a canonical source to claim &amp;quot;oh, yeah, the Quints left the Allspark there or something&amp;quot; then there is obviously no actual conflict.  You can just assume that yourself.  It is not canonically true without being stated by the fiction, but that is the case for a lot of stuff we all take for granted, such as (to pick an old example) that G1 cartoon Bumblebee does not frequently murder humans when he is off-camera.  If two pieces of fiction are in conflict, but there is a simple and obvious solution, then take it.  Your arguments make it sound as if you need to read the [[continuity]] and [[canon]] articles so you can drop this &amp;quot;hardcore&amp;quot; outlook on the &amp;quot;true&amp;quot; history.  That outlook is completely indefensible.  Transformers fiction is a horrendous mishmish of conflicting alternate universes which frequently bleed out retcons into each other, and not everything is descended from the one continuity that you happen to like most.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 13:59, 21 July 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::Indeed.  I was going to say, basically, what Steve said.  You argue that Beast Machines does not fit in with the &amp;quot;canon&amp;quot; history of the Transformers, but Transformers does not have a &amp;quot;canon&amp;quot;.  There are too many conflicting histories, and there have been since the beginning.  All we have are &amp;quot;official&amp;quot;, ie, Hasbro-Takara-approved, and &amp;quot;non-official&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
::Furthermore, you seem to be taking the G1 cartoon as &amp;quot;canon&amp;quot;, but that is totally arbitrary.  You might argue it has more weight than the comics because it was arguably more widely-known, but that would not explain the presence of comic elements in later stories.&lt;br /&gt;
::The simple fact of the matter is, there is no story &amp;quot;canon&amp;quot;, by definition, other than the real-world history of the toy franchise.  For us to choose any one show or comic book or anything else over the other would a) be completely arbitrary, and b) be completely personal opinion, directly contradicting the purposes of an encyclopedia. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 16:31, 21 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I would suggest also looking into the difference between [[canon]] and [[personal canon]], as you seem to be confusing the former for the latter. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 18:53, 21 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ai guys I already told you this whole thing is argumentative and while I admit i have my likes/dislikes in &amp;quot;what works for me,&amp;quot; i remember somewhere in Hasbro that &amp;quot;tied&amp;quot; in the the whole thing even though it wasn&#039;t supposed to work out. I already said I didn&#039;t try to personalize or add anything intentionally biased. For the G1 comics I was too young to appreciate them so I can&#039;t really sufficiently argue there cause I was still in my diapers when that happened and so it never occurred to me how relevant the comic version was since all I know is the popularity of the cartoon and toyline following up to recent modern comic works. I&#039;m more sufficient in the recent works of the comics and only G1 toon, the G1 comics is one aspect I can&#039;t say much since I only know scraps from the republished versions. I had a friend that got some of them, but it&#039;s hard on the eyes with their dot coloring scheme like the papers. It&#039;s nice to meet other guys that know so much, steve i also had a little trouble following you at times to retort and it&#039;s been a pleasure debating with you guys. Keep contributing!-shadowhawk&lt;br /&gt;
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:I have trouble following you, at times, too.  However, I am glad this has all ended amiably. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 21:56, 24 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Character List ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hmm, I was limiting the list to characters with speaking parts (and not recordings, Like Megatron G1).  I&#039;ll grant the protohumans, since they go &amp;quot;ook&amp;quot; a lot, but if we let in Snowstalker, are there other non-speaking animals we should include?  Or should we leave her out?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:JW|JW]] 17:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Japan Release Dates ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Are we &#039;&#039;certain&#039;&#039; of the Japanese release dates of 1997 and 1999?  [[User:JW|JW]] 13:52, 11 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:In Japan, [http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%93%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%82%A6%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA_%E8%B6%85%E7%94%9F%E5%91%BD%E4%BD%93%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC the first season] was on air during September, 1997 to March, 1998; while [http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%93%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%82%A6%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA%E3%83%A1%E3%82%BF%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B9_%E8%B6%85%E7%94%9F%E5%91%BD%E4%BD%93%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%83%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC the second and third seasons] were on air during October, 1999 to March, 2000. -- [[User:TX55|TX55]] 14:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== First CG Show ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Beast Wars is the first fully CGI TV-show in the world. Yesss.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Wouldn&#039;t that be &#039;&#039;Reboot&#039;&#039;, which came out the year before BW?  [[User:JW|JW]] 16:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Did the series ended in Quebec or did it stop at the second season like in France ? Since the French dub was the only french-speaking one (unlike the G1 cartoon with two different dubs), I guess it stopped the same way, but it is not explained by the trivia. Could anybody confirm this ?--[[Special:Contributions/213.213.238.210|213.213.238.210]] 06:27, 2 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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