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		<title>Human Error, Part II</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{episode|&lt;br /&gt;
|series=Anitoon&lt;br /&gt;
|image=TFAni Human Error Part2 Substitute Autobots.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|caption=That tiny thing at their feet? Yeah, that&#039;s right, that&#039;s their leader...&lt;br /&gt;
|ep=38&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;Human Error, Part II&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[April 25]], 2009&lt;br /&gt;
|written by=[[Tom Pugsley]]&lt;br /&gt;
|directed by=[[Kalvin Lee]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[Yosuke Hatta]]&lt;br /&gt;
|animation studio=[[Mook]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;With the Autobots trapped in Soundwave&#039;s virtual world, Sari seeks help to rescue them.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
In the virtual world, the Autobots struggle to get themselves free of the giant Soundwave, only for a wire damaged by Sari&#039;s recent attack to sever Soundwave&#039;s connection to the virtual world. As Soundwave makes repairs, Prowl is briefly able to escape the virtual world using [[processor-over-matter]]. However, his attempt to free Optimus Prime is interrupted as Soundwave plugs him back into the virtual world. Control reestablished, Soundwave reverts the Autobots to their human forms. Recognizing that reprogramming will take longer now, Soundwave instructs his [[Sound Wave|toy replicas]] to begin hypnotizing the humans of Detroit.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the virtual world, Bulkhead has taken to smashing things in the hopes that it will get them out. Ratchet says that the only way they can get out is to find Soundwave&#039;s interface, a virtual icon with his representation. Bumblebee quickly notices a potential icon—Soundwave&#039;s vehicle mode, which nearly runs them down. Optimus orders the Automen to follow Soundwave in vehicles that their own [[alternate mode]]s are based on, including the virtual [[Captain Fanzone&#039;s car]]. Upon looking at the driving equipment, Optimus realizes that he may be in a little over his head.&lt;br /&gt;
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Heading back to Sumdac Tower, Sari seeks out her father&#039;s help. She is briefly found by a Sound Wave, but knocks it aside. Observing that she is immune to his hypnotics, Soundwave decides that she must be terminated. Finding her father in the lab, Sari is horrified when he tries to attack her, but is able to delay him by burying him under a fallen shelf. Sari quickly takes flight, hoping to find help elsewhere.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TFAni Human Error Part2 Electrostatic Soundwave Reprogramming.jpg|thumb|left|180px|&amp;quot;Now you will watch as I complete &#039;&#039;Through the Fire and Flames&#039;&#039; on EXPERT!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the virtual world, the Autobots are following Soundwave&#039;s virtual icon, but not very well: Bulkhead and Bumblebee keep ramming into other drivers, Optimus&#039;s fire-suppressant equipment is out of control, Ratchet is driving backwards, and Prowl is having trouble avoiding popping wheelies. Following Soundwave into a dilapidated drive-in movie, Ratchet is convinced that they have Soundwave right where they want him—only for a dozen of the Soundwave vehicle modes to appear and surround them. It&#039;s a trap! As the Automen try to flee, Soundwave appears on the movie screen and begins broadcasting a reprogramming frequency. Prowl begins another processor-over-matter attempt, but one by one, the Autobots optics begin to turn red...&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TFAni Human Error Part2 Beachbum Scrapper.jpg|thumb|right|180px|Surprised he didn&#039;t name the Dinobot &amp;quot;Friday.&amp;quot;  Or &amp;quot;Wilson&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
On Dinobot Island, Sari looks for the Dinobots, but they find her when Swoop knocks her out of the air. Grimlock shows up and declares her an intruder. Sari says that she wants their help, but Grimlock informs Sari that Dinobots don&#039;t help puny humans—they &#039;&#039;destroy&#039;&#039; puny humans! The two Dinobots transform into [[robot mode]], and Grimlock fires a blast from his [[energo-sword]], only for Sari to fire a blast from her weapon as well. Grimlock decides against destroying her, but says that they won&#039;t help either. Sari then notices that the triceratops is missing, and asks where he is, but Grimlock says that they aren&#039;t talking to him, as Dinobots aren&#039;t pets. Heading to the shore, Sari finds Scrapper, who has been marooned for almost seven weeks, and was separated from [[Mixmaster (Animated)|Mixmaster]] and [[Dirt Boss (Animated)|Dirt Boss]] after their last misadventure. Scrapper reveals that he&#039;s taken the triceratops as a pet, and named him Snarl (as he didn&#039;t take kindly to [[Slag (G1)|Slag]]). Scrapper also points out that even if he wanted to help, they&#039;re stuck on the island. Sari asks why he doesn&#039;t make himself a boat. Scrapper admits that he never thought of that.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TFAni Human Error Part2 Evil Autobots.jpg|180px|left|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
On the way to the mainland, Sari says that the three of them will need to rescue the Autobots immediately, but Scrapper reminds her that he never said he&#039;d help. He plans to take Snarl up north, having heard it&#039;s good oil country. Sari angrily tells him that it&#039;s time to be a hero, and a voice from underwater answers, jumping onto the raft—it&#039;s Wreck-Gar! Reluctantly, Sari takes him. As the [[Substitute Autobots]] reach the mainland, Sari tells them to [[transform and roll out]], but they quickly leave without her. Catching up to them, Sari and the Substitutes are quickly confronted by Soundwave, when the Autobots appear as well. Sari is relieved at the sight of her friends (she had little hope for the Substitute Autobots). But her cheer turns to horror as she realizes that the Autobots are under Soundwave&#039;s control.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:PrimeReadyToRock.jpg|thumb|right|180px|&amp;quot;Autobots, transform and &#039;&#039;rock out!&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Converting to battle mode, Sari instructs the Substitute Autobots to attack. However, the Substitutes are not up to the Autobots&#039; own skills. Sari is amazed that Mindless Zombies are more effective than her own team, until Scrapper comments that it&#039;s because they&#039;re being controlled by one guy. Sari realizes that he&#039;s right, and orders the Substitute Autobots to attack on their own. Sure enough, it works: Soundwave begins having trouble multitasking, and the Autobots&#039; effectiveness begins to wear them down. Soundwave eventually decides to use just Optimus Prime instead, and is able to take down each Substitute Autobot until only Sari is left. Prime nearly slices her in half before Prowl throws his shuriken at Soundwave, knocking his keytar out of his hands and freeing the Autobots. Soundwave orders Laserbeak and Ratbat, the keytar, to attack. Soundwave tackles Prime, and knocks his axe out of his hands, so Prime decides to use Soundwave&#039;s other ax—Laserbeak. The two engage in what may be the most epic rockoff of all time as they try to counter each other&#039;s harmonics. Ultimately, Optimus Prime uses the instrument-locked Laserbeak to shatter Soundwave and Ratbat, freeing the humans from Soundwave&#039;s control. However, Laserbeak grabs Soundwave&#039;s remaining functional piece as flies off.[[Image:TFAni Human Error Part2 Laserbeack&amp;amp;Soundwave Flee.jpg|thumb|left|180px|Next time, Gadget! Next time...]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, it&#039;s a very Merry Christmas indeed for the Autobots and the Sumdacs: not only are they freed of Soundwave&#039;s control, but Porter C. Powell is about to be financially ruined by the impending Sound Wave refunds. Scrapper decides to call it quits and head back to Dinobot Island for a long vacation, but Snarl refuses to let the Constructicon ride him. Sari also has a better appreciation for what Optimus goes through being in command, while the Autobots understand the rigors of being human. As the Autobots reflect on their new-found understanding, Wreck-Gar begins distributing garbage to all the good little girls and boys.&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (3)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] (4)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Grimlock (Animated)|Grimlock]] (18)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Swoop (Animated)|Swoop]] (19)&lt;br /&gt;
|c2=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ratbat (Animated)|Ratbat]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Laserbeak (Animated)|Laserbeak]] (23)&lt;br /&gt;
|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Porter C. Powell]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Captain Fanzone]] (9)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mayor Edsel]] (10)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Press Secretary]] (11)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Spike Witwicky (Animated)|Spike Witwicky]] (12)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Carly Witwicky (Animated)|Carly Witwicky]] (13)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Daniel Witwicky (Animated)|Daniel Witwicky]] (14)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jennifer Witwicky]] (15)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Isaac Sumdac]] (17)&lt;br /&gt;
|h4=[[Substitute Autobots]]|c4=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sari Sumdac]] (16)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scrapper (Animated)|Scrapper]] (20)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snarl (Animated)|Snarl]] (21)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wreck-Gar (Animated)|Wreck-Gar]] (22)&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Driver&#039;&#039;&#039;: Take it easy, lead foot!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Bulkhead&#039;&#039;&#039;: What, it&#039;s not lead any more!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[Bumblebee&#039;s car hits Bulkhead&#039;s car]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Bumblebee&#039;&#039;&#039;: Virtual Fanzone is gonna be ticked!.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus&#039;&#039;&#039;: I have to hand it to the humans, driving is much more difficult than it looks.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ratchet&#039;&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;[Driving backwards]&#039;&#039; This ain&#039;t so hard.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Prowl&#039;&#039;&#039;: It&#039;s merely a matter of becoming one with the machiAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! &#039;&#039;[Begins popping a wheelie]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:—The Autobots take their turn at driving...and fail miserably.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Hey, weren&#039;t there three of you? Where&#039;s the other one.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Me Grimlock not talking to him. Him traitor. Dinobots not pets.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Sari Sumdac&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Grimlock&#039;&#039;&#039; on the status of the Dinobots.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;[Writing in the sand]&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Day 48: Still no sign of my collea...my buds. I have befriended and trained one of the local wildlife.&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;[Tide comes up and erases writing]&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Oh, not again!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper&#039;&#039;&#039; just can&#039;t win.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Sari&#039;&#039;&#039;: Alright. Substitute Autobots, transform and roll out!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Wreck-Gar&#039;&#039;&#039;: Transform. What a good idea!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[Transforms and drives off]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper&#039;&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;[Riding Snarl]&#039;&#039; Hi ho Snarl!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[Snarl slips on some ice, knocking Scrapper off, who transforms and follows]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Scrapper&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hey Snarl, wait for daddy!&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Sari&#039;&#039;&#039;: Hey, wait for me! I&#039;m your leader!&lt;br /&gt;
:—The Substitute Autobots aren&#039;t getting off to a good start.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Sari&#039;&#039;&#039;: All right, big guy. I&#039;d hate to do this, but..&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[Sari fires a blast at Optimus, but he uses Wreck-Gar as a shield, causing some of his junk to fly out and hit him]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Wreck-Gar&#039;&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;[Dazed]&#039;&#039; Ha ha! The mighty Wreck-Gar is no match for...the mighty Wreck-Gar. Wait, whose side am I on?&lt;br /&gt;
:—Wreck-Gar, actually more confused than usual.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Time to change your tune, Soundwave. Operation: face the music.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animation or technical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* Human Ratchet has his scar on the wrong side in one scene.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continuity errors===&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
* Soundwave&#039;s virtual form at the begining of the episode is in the colors of TakaraTomy&#039;s &amp;quot;[[Soundwave (G1) toys#Music Label|Sonic White]]&amp;quot; Soundwave MP3 player.&lt;br /&gt;
* Soundwave&#039;s virtual avatars are depicted in the color scheme of the [[Soundwave (Animated)#Electrostatic Soundwave|Electrostatic Soundwaves]] toy.&lt;br /&gt;
* The traffic light that [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] swings around is based on the weapon which came with the first [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl&#039;s]] toy.&lt;br /&gt;
* Dinobot Island is missing a huge chunk of itself after the events of &amp;quot;[[Predacons Rising]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* Scrapper is revealed to have survived the explosion the Constructicons were caught in back in &amp;quot;[[Three&#039;s A Crowd]]&amp;quot;. The fates of Mixmaster and Dirt Boss, however, are less certain.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Scrapper (Animated)|Scrapper]] names the triceratops [[Dinobot (Animated)|Dinobot]] &amp;quot;Snarl&amp;quot; as a second choice after he took offense to &amp;quot;[[Slag (G1)|Slag]]&amp;quot;, referencing the [[Snarl (Animated)#Notes|real-life name change]] for Snarl.&lt;br /&gt;
* Wreck-Gar has been at the bottom of the lake since his debut episode, &amp;quot;[[Garbage In, Garbage Out]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* Laserbeak flying away with Soundwave&#039;s remaining component could be in reference to the action that [[Laserbeak (G1)|his Generation 1 counterpart]] took after [[Soundwave (G1)|his master&#039;s]] destruction in the &#039;&#039;Headmasters&#039;&#039; episode &amp;quot;[[The Mystery of Planet Master]]&amp;quot;, in which Laserbeak flew off with Soundwave&#039;s head after he was blown to smithereens.&lt;br /&gt;
* Evil brain-washed Autobots ? That&#039;s [[Attack of the Autobots|familiar]]...&lt;br /&gt;
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===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
*Both Wreck-Gar and his voice-actor, [[&amp;quot;Weird Al&amp;quot; Yankovic]], play the [[:Image:WeirdAl.jpg|accordion]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Optimus refers to Laserbeak as an &amp;quot;axe&amp;quot; (a common nickname for guitars) before forcibly transforming him into his alt. mode.&lt;br /&gt;
*Scrapper&#039;s cry of &amp;quot;Hi ho Snarl!&amp;quot; is a reference to the Lone Ranger&#039;s cry of &amp;quot;Hi ho Silver!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*The Christmas carols continue in this episode, as Scrapper starts singing a bit of &amp;quot;[[Wikipedia:Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow!|Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow!]]&amp;quot; and Wreck-Gar offers up his own unique version of &amp;quot;[[Wikipedia:Deck the Halls|Deck the Halls]]&amp;quot;. As in the previous episode, &amp;quot;[[Wikipedia: God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen|God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen]]&amp;quot; is incorporated into the background music of this episode&#039;s final scene.&lt;br /&gt;
*Some of the sound effects used when Optimus attacks Soundwave with Laserbeak date back to Hanna-Barbara&#039;s &#039;&#039;Quickdraw McGraw&#039;&#039;, whose title character&#039;s alter-ego El Kabong used a guitar as a melee weapon.&lt;br /&gt;
* Meanwhile, Ratbat&#039;s shrieks are either taken directly from the original &#039;&#039;[[wikipedia:Scooby Doo|Scooby Doo, Where Are You!]]&#039;&#039; intro, or are a very close approximation thereof.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Soundwave breaks apart and his mind control power dissipates, the sound effect is of a dial-up modem.&lt;br /&gt;
*The concept of a team of C-listers filling in for the heroes in a pinch is not new.  [[wikipedia:Legion_of_Substitute_Heroes|The Legion of Substitute Heroes]] has been around since the early 60s.&lt;br /&gt;
* Scrapper is seen with rust for stubble, a trait often seen on [[wikipedia:Bender_(Futurama)|Bender]] (of Futurama fame) when not intoxicated.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
* Several questions were left unanswered in this two-parter, including how Soundwave was rebuilt after the destruction of his body in &amp;quot;[[Sound and Fury]]&amp;quot;, and where Laserbeak and Ratbat come from.&lt;br /&gt;
* This is not the first time a [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] has mass-hypnotized humans [[Auto-Bop|with his musical skills]].&lt;br /&gt;
* This episode marks the return of [[Captain Fanzone&#039;s car]]. Even in the virtual world, it&#039;s still absolutely filthy, inside and out.&lt;br /&gt;
* Soundwave has the ability to fly, despite having a land based vehicle alt mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Size is hardly a factor, is it? I mean, the Maximals were supposed to be sorta normalish animal size, so these animals being huge is hardly an indicator it&#039;s them, is it&#039;&#039; - McFeely&#039;s edit summary&lt;br /&gt;
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Very few of the BW characters (even if we only count the pre-Transmetal forms) were normal animal size - Cheetor was, but Rattrap was HUGE for a rat, the arachnids &amp;amp; insects were even more out of scale, while Megatron was tiny by comparison to a T-Rex, and lots of the characters were more subtly missized. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 22:41, 11 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Those animals are NOT that respective size to each other in real life.  That&#039;s a huge-ass cheetah or that&#039;s a small-ass rhino.  And let&#039;s not forget how friggin&#039; big that rat is.  There&#039;s no way around the size of that rat.  (Apparently the &amp;quot;prehistoric earth-like planet&amp;quot; description holds for the final script too, I&#039;ve learned.)  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:48, 11 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If you compare their size to Blackarachnia in the wide-shot they are all ginormous. Beast warriors are supposed to be human size. That cheetah is bigger than a Transformer. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:57, 11 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Maybe you should tell [[Robot Masters|Japan]] that!  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:58, 11 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, I was purely speaking in reference to their size respective to Blackarachnia, rather than each other. Didn&#039;t phrase it right. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 06:45, 12 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;African&amp;quot; plantlife==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PredaconsRising-freakyplants.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
So, any botanists or paleobotanists want to have a go at these?  Script calls it an &amp;quot;alien-looking landscape,&amp;quot; so if there&#039;s nothing like these in Earth&#039;s past or present, I think we can say for sure this ain&#039;t just Africa.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:10, 11 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think we are supposed to think they were transported to the Beast Wars. &amp;quot;Oh, you&#039;ve &#039;&#039;got&#039;&#039; to be kidding me.&amp;quot; Implies she has some personal knowledge of those four... which she shouldn&#039;t really have. *cue Twilight Zone theme* A bigger question is, what about the Dinobots? They&#039;ve gotten blown up [[Three&#039;s a Crowd|twice]] now! - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 23:41, 11 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::While we can certainly note what the script says, I don&#039;t think the images show anything except a cartoony forest.  I presumed it to be Africa because there are African animals hangin&#039; out together, but if that isn&#039;t proven of course we can gank that out too.  It could just as well be a huge game preserve, mebbe.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 12:07, 12 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::spin-off series?&lt;br /&gt;
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:They&#039;re simplified tree ferns. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 22:56, 13 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Show me a picture.  More specifically, show me a picture of a tree fern that looks remotely like the snake-rooted potato sacks these things are.  I&#039;ve done image searches, and I ain&#039;t seein&#039; it.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:02, 13 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Time Travel ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers References&#039;&#039;&#039; section uses the script&#039;s referring to the planet as &amp;quot;a primitive earth-like planet&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;proof&amp;quot; of timetravel. However, if it&#039;s indicated to be a different planet, shouldn&#039;t that be closer to proof it&#039;s &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; timetravel? --[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 11:55, 12 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I kind don&#039;t get this line: &#039;&#039;Interestingly, the script calls this setting a &amp;quot;primitive Earth-like planet,&amp;quot; which seems to indicate that Blackarachnia actually transwarped herself into the friggin&#039; Beast Wars&#039;&#039;. I don&#039;t understand what it is about the cited script language that suggests &amp;quot;she is in the actual Beast Wars&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;she is on an alien planet which homages Beast Wars,&amp;quot; and I certainly don&#039;t see why that would indicate any time travel at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 16:36, 12 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Air Date ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I really wish the Air Date was accurate. Though it appears that it IS, just not for me =(&lt;br /&gt;
Sometimes I hate being in Canada. At any rate, think its worthy of the trivia section? (signed someone that hasn&#039;t had time to get an account due to Easter)&lt;br /&gt;
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== IT&#039;S TOO LATE FOR APOLOGIES ==&lt;br /&gt;
Was that an actual intentional shoutout?  Because if so, that&#039;s goddamned brilliant.  I mean, I noticed it, but if it&#039;s actually a thing, that&#039;s fantastic.  [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 22:13, 12 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Helmet. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Since Along Came a Spider, there&#039;s been a theory that Blackarachnia&#039;s helmet was a literal, removable helmet.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Wait... that was a theory? I thought we knew that. The helmet was shown on the floor. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:07, 13 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, they didn&#039;t actually show her pick it up or state in dialogue that she was wearing it, but it was pretty dang implicit. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 18:18, 13 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reference ? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The line &amp;quot;Get away from me, you filthy organic !&amp;quot; is similar to the infamous line from Planet of the Apes.--[[Special:Contributions/213.49.87.215|213.49.87.215]] 09:50, 14 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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