Talk:Transformers: Classics

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This link and page header may very well change. But we have TWO "Classics" in TFs now... the early-90 Euro re-release line, and now apparently everything post-Cyb-pre-Movie (since the Mini-Cons are now officially being labelled as such). "Classics (1991)" and "Classics (2006)"? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:32, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
:Works for me.--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:56, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
:: Except for the fact that the European ''Classics'' started in 1990 if the Hartman's TS Archive is correct. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 20:08, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Basically the new Classics seems like it's gonna be a "Greatest Hits" line now I think. A bunch of homages to and continuations of everything from G1 to Cyb. thrown together till the movie comes along.

==Powerglide==
Yes, I know that the redeco was originally meant to be Powerglide. But I doubt that he's still considered to be, after the name change. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:59, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
: In fact, Fireflight's packaging gives him Fireflight's function. He's Fireflight now, despite his origins. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:10, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

== Inclusion? ==

Should the "Classics" releases of G1 Soundwave and 20th Prime be included/listed here as well? I lean towards yes, since they are in the Classics packaging (with Classics crosssells) and Hasbro seems to be including everything post Cybertron as Classics. Opinions? [[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 13:36, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
: Technically, yeah. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 18:05, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
What about the Japanese Repaints? - Some Random IP Person
:Not enough information about them yet, and I assume we haven't decided on if they'll be Classics or a new line. Oh, and please sign your posts so we don't confuse posts made by people with no accounts to with people who have accounts. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:52, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

== classics DVD packs in europe ==

i don't know if that was in all of europe, but here in belgium, they sold(from all that i know limeted to these toys) cliffjumper, grimlock, ramjet, mirage and astrotrain with the DVD '''the return of megatron''', with 5 episodes of transformers energon(yes, every toy was sold with the exact same DVD). the also released the same toys over again with another DVD, but i can't remember what it was actualy about because i got all the toys they packed with the the return of megatron DVD.(i'm not buying the same toy again for this.) should this be noted in the classics subline as trivia? --[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 22:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Manga ==

Fair warning: According to a blurb on [http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/products/henkei/index.html Takara's new "Henkei! Henkei! Transformers" page], there's going to be a manga for the toy line running in ''TV Magazine''. It wasn't in the February issue, which I just got a week ago, so it may start with the March issue. (My copies don't arrive until almost a month after they come out in Japan, so someone may already have the March issue and be able to confirm.)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:57, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Addendum: [http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/products/henkei/camp.html Pictures of Skyglide], the recolored Mini-Con offered as a campaign item in conjunction with the line, are now up as well.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 17:02, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
: Yeah, I was wondering what to do with that. I had no idea if that was Powerglide's Japanese name, or if he needs a new page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:04, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
::It's a minicon. I'm sure the mere fact that it ''exists'' will summon Sipher.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 17:05, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I already put a notice about it on Sipher's Talk page a little while ago, leaving nothing to chance. Powerglide has always been "Powerglide" in Japan, IIRC. This is an homage, but, for the moment, it's a new character. It MIGHT be retconned into a new body for Powerglide, though. If it gets any character info, it'll probably be in ''TV Magazine''.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 17:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Addendum Two: Another page on the site indicates that manga will also be included with the toys, a la the Japanese G2 releases.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 17:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

==Henkei==
We're definately considering Henkei! Henkei whatever as just Japanese classics right? So no need for them to go under their own sub-heading in toy sections? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:18, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

:But it has it's own name, gonna have mangas, and all the toys are special repaints. They need their own space. --[[User:Hepathos|Hepathos]] 22:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

::Well, I can't read Japanese, but '''''if''''' the ''Henkei! Henkei!'' manga has anything which indicates a divergent continuity from TFCC's Classicverse, then I think it should be treated as such. (Mind you, since '''everything''' in Japan now supposedly fits into one unified continuity, shouldn't the Japanese version of ''anything'' be considered incompatible with the Western version, since it certainly doesn't and can't conform to such a conglomo-continuity?) But like I said, I can't read Japanese. [[User:PacifistPrime|PP]] 07:01, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].

:Well, it looks like Henkei is expanding well and beyond the 'Japanese version of Classics', even though it may be themed as such. Since it's now using Universe figures, includes its own backstory and manga (which isn't Classics-verse), I'm thinking it's pretty much time to give it it's own space. [[User:TFVanguard|Vanguard]] 22:07, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

==Tankor==
it would be keeping inline with everything else if the actual name of the toy came first and then the note what it was originally based on/intended to be Octane[[User:Gspro15198|Gspro15198]] 17:12, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Which would be nice if you had used correct capitalisation and spacing in your edit. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Oops meant to hit preview before save page there. My bad [[User:Gspro15198|Gspro15198]] 17:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

==Universe 2008==
So if we're listing the new Classics toys here.... why does [[Universe (2008 franchise)|this page]] exist? Aren't they one and the same? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
: I don't like this. The line ISN'T "Classics", despite internal/fan nomenclature for a certain batch of figures. It's under "Universe", and it's a catchall. This page should LINK to Universe 2008, ("the 'classics' theme would continue in the 2008 'Universe' line" or someshit), and the toys should be listed THERE. Otherwise, we're spreading misinformation, and we might as well lump Energon and Cybertron into the Armada article. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::That's kinda what I thought. Keeping up with the latest toy news ain't my specialty, though, so I wanted to verify. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:49, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

::Dealing with the "Games of Deception" figures has put this into sharper clarity for me. Obviously, based on my edit to this effect, I think those guys should be listed here, despite the ''Timelines'' umbrella franchise they're in. They have ''Classics''-style packaging (the only rule so far) and are most definitely meant to be part of ''Classics'' fiction. But, if we separate all the ''Classic-Series''-labeled ''Universe'' toys, then logically we should separate all the ''Timelines'' guys too. So then we're making anyone who wants to learn about all the ''Classics'' toys have to go to three different places for it. I don't think the umbrella franchises should dictate such otherwise-meaningless splits in how we organize these things, especially when the original franchises haven't ceased existing. When ''Energon'' appeared, ''Armada'' vanished, but the new ''Classics'' toys do indeed say "Classic Series" on them. And I don't know about the ''Robot Heroes'' packaging, but certainly [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/universe/default.cfm?page=News/Item&newsID=9589780C-D56F-E112-4985BE693F87CFDD Hasbro's website is still using that name too.] I'd rather see the [[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe page]] have sections that say "See [[Classics (2006)#Universe 2008|''Classics'' (Universe 2008)]]" and "See [[Robot Heroes#Universe (2008)|''Robot Heroes'' (Universe 2008)]]" than the current reverse situation. It seems so much more ''relevant.'' I would suggest duplicating the information, but that could get tedious as time goes on. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 22:04, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
:::The way I see it, while ''Robot Heroes'' are the the same thing whether they're released on their own or put under the Movie or Universe franchise, and thus belongs all on the same page, "Classics" and "Classic Series" are actually two ''different'' things. ''Classics'' was toyline unto itself, one that has ended. ''Classic Series'' is a thematically-identical but technically ''new'' line under the Universe banner. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 00:30, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::::I don't see the semantic difference between "Classics" and "Classic Series" being enough to cause a split while all the ''Robot Heroes'' stay congruent. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 00:44, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Ultimately, they're two smaller toylines that got rolled into a larger one.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 00:51, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::::It's not just about semantics. Classics was a toyline unto itself, and the main Transformers line between Cybertron and the Movie. A toyline which ''ended''. Robot Heroes is something altogether different. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 00:52, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Your definition of "ended" is apparently different than mine. Put all the ''Classics'' and ''Classic Series'' toys together, and I see one continuum. The time-gap between the two is, to my mind, essentially irrelevant. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 01:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::A continuum that includes new Armada toys! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::I feel I should point out that the Mini-Con 12-pack, which is a ''Universe''-branded set, has "Armada Series" on its boxback image, not "Classic Series". I maintain that the new ''Universe'' toys, regardless of series, should be lists on the Universe page... but the relevant other pages (Classics, BW, Armada) should then have a link to U08. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Is the Hot Shot Universe toy actually going to be labelled as Classic Series and not something else, like "25th Anniversary" or whatever? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 03:17, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Everything in Universe '09 is apparently going to be branded with a "25 years" logo in the corner, akin to G.I. Joe's 25th Anniversary logo. Beyond that, who knows. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:30, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I don't see any problem with toys appearing on more than one list. The Movie Robot Heroes should be on the Movie page, ''and'' they should also be on the Robot Heroes page. As long as it's just a ''list'', it's not a big deal. It's not like there's any editorial changes that could result in the data drifting apart between the two pages (the reason I'm so fanatically opposed to duplicating toy write-ups on [[Stunticon (G1)|multiple pages]]) -- it's just a ''list''. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 04:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Any time we duplicate information, the risk of data-drift exists. Especially since it's a growing list, it'll take some degree of vigilance on our part to make sure they stay identical, and updates don't just get tacked heedlessly onto whichever list someone happens upon. If that level of risk and work is acceptable for this Wiki, then I think it's the best solution to satisfy the various opinions here. (Well, maybe Kil would want more separation between "Classics" and "Classic Series," so I can't speak for him.) - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 21:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

==Classics continuity/universe==
The Unicron page indicates that the Classics line is in it's own continuity. If so, shouldn't there be a page for that or something to indicate it here? ****

Rodimus Prime (Animated)

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{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Rodimus}}
:''Rodimus Prime is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:Animated Rodimus Bow.jpg|thumb|400px|Hawkeye Prime]]

'''Rodimus Prime''' is more than just a high ranking Autobot officer, he's the "Chosen One"! He is extremely popular amongst his fellow Autobot brethren, and has mastered several different battle skills, including servo-to-servo combat. While he has mastered the use of various defensive weaponry, his personal weapon of choice is his uniquely-designed energy bow. Rodimus is a born leader and strives to become the next [[Magnus]]. In other words, he's "practically perfect in every way".

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Judd Nelson]] (English)

[[Image:TransWarpedRodimusCosmicRust.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Aww, but I'm too cool to rust!]]

Rodimus Prime and his team, [[Red Alert (Animated)|Red Alert]], [[Hot Shot (Animated)|Hot Shot]], [[Brawn (Animated)|Brawn]], and [[Ironhide (Animated)|Ironhide]], defended [[space bridge 687-030]] from [[Team Chaar]]. Rodimus ordered Brawn and Ironhide to fall back so they could protect the bridge, but a combo attack from [[Oil Slick (Animated)|Oil Slick]] and [[Cyclonus (Animated)|Cyclonus]] took down both [[Autobot]]s. Rodimus managed to evade [[Spittor (Animated)|Spittor]]'s tentacle-attack and incapacitate the monster, but he was quickly knocked aside by [[Blackout (Animated)|Blackout]]'s power-stomp attack.

As the Decepticons moved in, Rodimus defiantly growled that they'd have to go through him. In response, Oil Slick threw a vial of [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]] at Rodimus' feet, which quickly spread across his body and paralyzed him. {{storylink|TransWarped}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Animated===
[[Image:Animated Rodimus Minor toy.jpg|thumb|right|250px|"Help! I'm being attacked by ''Photoshop''!"]]
*'''Rodimus Minor''' (Deluxe, 2010?)
**''Accessories'': "Energy Bow", 2 missiles
: Rodimus Minor transforms into a futuristic car that highly homages the vehicle mode of Generation 1 [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]]. A panel on the car's hood, which is also the figure's chest, can be flipped to either show an engine block or the figure's Autobot [[insignia]]. The figure comes with an Energy Bow, capable of firing two missiles.

{{comingsoontoy}}

==Notes==
*Rodimus shares his [[Hot Rod (G1)|Generation 1 counterpart]]'s original voice actor, Judd Nelson.
*In an answer to a question at [http://www.allspark.com/content/view/4966/20/ TFCon 2009], [[Derrick J. Wyatt|Derrick Wyatt]] stated that Rodimus is recovering from the Cosmic Rust attack. Aside from a very brief cameo<ref>An Autobot with Rodimus's character model but slightly different color scheme can be seen in the lower right of a crowd shot in [[Endgame, Part II]].</ref> that may or may not be him, Rodimus's fate has never been revealed fictionally.
*Originally, Rodimus was going to be the [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|jerk]] character of ''Animated''. This means his team is roughly 60% [[Hot Shot (Animated)|scrapped]] [[Red Alert (Animated)|ideas]], although 40% of those are because of the [[Transformers (2007)|live-action movie]].
*Despite being credited by the show's creators<ref>''Animated'' [[Tech Spec]] by [[Derrick J. Wyatt]].{{storylink|Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 24}}</ref> as having the [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] rank and clearly being the leader of a team like [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|another bloke]], his toy is listed as 'Rodimus Minor' for the fact that, as revealed at San Diego Comic-Con 2009, 'there were already too many Primes in the toy line.' Within the series, he is only ever called or credited as "Rodimus" (like [[Rodimus (Energon)|another bloke]].)
*Unlike many other Primes in this series, Rodimus is the first and only Prime to obtain a car mode.

==References==
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