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Talk:Bonecrusher (Movie)

2010-08-28T05:51:56Z

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I have no clue why I find this entire article so hilarious. It is so funny that even things that should not be funny, such as the perfectly ordinary disambig2 at the top, are somehow funny. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 02:09, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Its a nice page I don't see how it is so much funnier then the others. I also saw nothing special about the Disambig page is this an inside joke or something. Man being a newbie sucks eggs. --[[User:Bobtherandomguy|Bob]] 7 April 2007 (UTC)

:It's not really, I think Andrusi just finds the overall tone hilarious. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:46, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

:: I went ahead and added towards that tone. New link at the bottom. [[User:MrMania|Sav]] 01:32, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
::: That link doesn't work. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:19, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
:::: Changed.--[[User:MrMania|Sav]] 03:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

== Automorph ==

Looking over the article I noticed the comment about Bonecrusher not having an automorph feature. At first I agreed, but having gotten it and playing with it for a while, I realized the gear-activated blades on the scoop are meant to be the automorph, however pitiful. I checked the packaging again and sure enough, it had "Automorph Technology" emblazened across the front. I'd rather not change this right away, since calling it "Automorph" is highly charitable. Does anyone want to change it, or should a side note be added instead? [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 17:51, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

:I got it.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 03:58, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

== Voyager Class? ==

What ever happened to the HobbyLinkJapan "confirmed" voyager class Bonecrusher? Was that proven unfounded or what?

:It seems strange we didn't see anything about it at Botcon, so I'm guessing HLJ jumped the gun on something.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 05:04, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah from what I heard at Botcon Hasbro seemed to be saying that they were considering it, but hadn't decided yet. There was an important product meating coming up in future weeks and it would be decided then IIRC.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

:::Hasbro has got to make more toys！

== English ==
Is it just me, or in the fight with Prime, the last thing Bonecrusher shouts is an english "I hate you!" at Prime? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 12:26, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:It's not just you. I heard "I hate you!" "Move!" (to the bus) and "Take that, Autobot!" (on the windsheild). [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Mr. Q]] 16:19, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

well he definently, screems "I hate you" to Prime, right before being stabed, while he was being stabed he says somthing that sounds like blonga, though he might have been saying, "I long to..." (destroy/kill you) i heard nothing else in english though. [[User:Editoroflife|Editoroflife]] 01:37, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I heard bonecrusher say, "Stay back!"(right before prime transformers), "You'll fall!"(as he rams into prime), "Take that, prime!" or "Stay back, prime!"(Just before prime rams into him and knocks bonecrusher's eye out of his socket), and "Ooh, I hate you ya-ow!(you)"(Right before prime cuts off his arm). Then he made a few weird garbling noises before optimus killed him. Did bonecrusher speak? Frankly, I think he spoke 4 times throughout the film (not counting "Bonecrusher rolling.")-[[User:St.Hound|St.Hound]]
== Hate Jokes ==

So, does everybody think there were too many earlier, or not? --[[User:Chiasaur11|Chiasaur11]]
:Abit too many. Less is more. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:20, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
::Whatever happened to the line in the opening paragraph about him hating appropiate Aviril Lavin (however the hell you spell her name) songs? I thought that was pretty damn funny. But that's just me.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 03:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Evidently it has been toned down. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:53, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I take responsibility for that. He got a really good profile in the UK Titan magazine, so I finally made the top section more than just about how he hates everything. - McFeely, at work

== Potential Funny ==

If there's ever room for a/another mildly lengthy funny on this page, I hereby suggest this Ellison quote:

"Hate. Let me tell you how much I've come to hate you since I began to live. There are 387.44 million miles of printed circuits in wafer-thin layers that fill my complex. If the word hate was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of million miles it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for humans at this microinstant. For you. Hate. ''Hate.'' '''Hate.'''" —Harlan "Bonecrusher" Ellison

[[User:JW|JW]] 21:14, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

== Bus pursuit pic. ==

Okay, at present we have three different crops of ''the exact same frame'' of Bonecrusher chasing that bus. A little excessive?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 16:30, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
:I really think the multi-image shot could do with removing, since it is ''waaaay'' too long. As for the bus images, I think the new one gives a better view of Bonecrusher. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 16:32, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
::Fine, I'm removing it. Happy? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

There's something else that bothers me. Unlike all the other characters in the movie (Devastator not included) he has no "pose" picture, like Bumblebee's one at the top of the page. Why is this?

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:Because there's none to PUT there. For whatever reason, "pose" renders of Brawl and Bonecrusher just didn't make it out. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::Those bastards at Tformers uploaded some press kit images of the movie CG models, but only tiny thumbnails. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:20, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== Bonecrusher's Hate Blog? ==

How come you won't let me mention that? What about ''[[Ask Vector Prime]]''? [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Mr. Q]] 16:22, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

:If I'm not mistaken, "Ask Vector Prime" appeared on Hasbro's own website, and is therefore canon. Bonecrusher's Blog was apparently created by a fan, and is therefore not canon.
:If you can find proof that Bonecrusher's Blog was in fact authorized by Hasbro, then you can add it back in. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:31, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
::[[Slag (slang)|Slag]]. I'm sure it's not <strike>cannon</strike> canon.[[User:Inferno'sQueen|Mr. Q]] 16:36, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Of course, if Bonecrusher's Blog gets hugely popular, and becomes something known throughout all Transformers fandom, to the point where there are sly references to it in official material, ''then'' we may give it a page, similar to [[JaAm]]. I don't think that's terribly likely, though. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:43, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Ah, you never know. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Mr. Q]] 16:44, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

-Hey Ya'll, Master Fwiffo here. I (ahem) edit for Bonecrusher, and I'm sorry to say that his blog is not authorized by Hasbro, Takara, Paramount, or anything else except Bonecrusher's ego. And he Hates that. If you want to mention it as a fan work, feel free, though I'm sure Bonecrusher will take objection to being called a 'fan' of anything. -Fwiff

----

<big>'''About cats:'''</big> The note saying he hates cats was not given in ''any'' official material or, in fact, any material ''whatsoever.'' The hate blog is where he mentions that he hates cats less than dogs, but unofficial sources are better than '''''no sources'''''. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 12:24, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:No, they're not. (Unless one of the movie scriptwriters or someone is writing said blog, in which case it's STILL "vok are actually future humans" deutero-canon.) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 13:03, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::I don't know who is really doing the blog. Maybe Bc's story about robots making a deal with Hasbro is true.

::I'm kidding. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 13:33, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

:::And the Vok are future [[Swarm]]. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 13:12, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

== English ==

<nowiki>Is it just me, or did he say "Aha, oh yeah!" just before he got decapitated? I didn't hear him say any of the other stuff.</nowiki> [[User:Thyunda|Thyunda]] 14:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

== Defiance issue 2 appearance? Need help/opinions ==

I really don't want to play "Guess what Dan Khanna and Andrew Griffith are meant to be drawing in Defiance!", but I have no choice. On the third panel of page 15, among the many vaguely drawn robots in the crowd, there is a olive and tan guy with a low-set head and some spikey thing behind his head on his back. Is this Bonecrusher? The overall design and colour layout seems to suggest so. He's not in the following Decepticon army page (though it's really hard to tell). I need to know so I can form an opening sentence about Bonecrusher's past in the IDW section of this article. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:58, 22 June 2009 (EDT)
:A little help here? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:36, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

==ROTF Appearance==
I definitely saw him in robot mode, but most people seem to have only noticed the vehicle mode. Am I imagining things? In fact I'm pretty sure I saw him take some serious damage. [[User:Drmick|Drmick]] 05:43, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:Are you sure you're not thinking of [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]]? I tried to keep an eye out for unnamed Decepticons in the movie, and the ones that looked like they had Blackout's basic body were the only big ones I saw.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 06:40, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::I only noticed the vehicle mode rolling along with the other Decepticon generics, and I only seen one Transformer with Blackout's body.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 20:06, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Those generic Decepticon's at the end appeared to have Blackout's head, and his basic body (without all the helicopter kibble). Basically, his Cybertronian form. Sorry I was unclear.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:06, 26 June 2009 (EDT)
:As [[Talk:Revenge_of_the_Fallen_(film)#Not-Bonecrusher|Derik pointed out]], he's in Revenge of the Fallen, he wasn't among the dead Decepticons disposed of in the first movie, and, as an added bonus, there are toy bios stating he survived. I don't think the wiki should act like this Bonecrusher is a lookalike for some reason. He's in the film. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:20, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::He was VIOLENTLY decapitated and killed in the first film. Common sense would dictate it's a similar situation to Grindor and the protoforms, same look different guy. He doesn't need an article, but throw a trivia note in at the end "A look alike appears in ROTF". Don't make it out to be the same guy, considering toy bios can contradict the movie (G1 colour Jazz anyone?). Give the toy bio its own fiction section, and don't confuse matters by making it out to be the same guy. [[User:Eire|Eire]] 15.21 30 June 09 (UTC)
:::Toy-bios ''can'' contradict the movies. This time they don't. Bonecrusher is there. He was decapitated, but not disposed of with the others. Transformers have a way of not staying "dead" when you think they are "dead." Frenzy was decapitated. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:29, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::::Your argument could hold up if it wasn't for the fact that he isn't in Jungle Bonecrusher colors. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:55, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::He adopted those colors when he re-located to the jungle. When returning to the desert he'd go back to his tans.
:::::(The real clincher for me is that he wasn't among the bodies disposed of. Not in the movie, not in the adaptions, or the video games. That PLUS toy-bio PLUS ROTF-appearance means he survived until we hear different.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:20, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::Ok, hands up: Who saw Bonecrushers robot CGI model in the final battle? <sticks up hand> [[User:Drmick|Drmick]] 13:40, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
::He was definitely there.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 17:56, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
:::His bot mode was definitely there, it's really hard to miss since it's so brief, but it was definitely him busting through a wall and threatening some humans.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 13:08, 8 August 2009 (EDT)
::::I rather think it's a body dobble like Grindor. But because michal bay directed this movie, and Bonecrusher is his favorit robot...Make of the last bit what you will.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 13:20, 8 August 2009 (EDT)

I believe I was the first person in the world to post online about [[Buffalo MPV Decepticon|Bonecrusher's robot model]] being used in this flick. I posted here, somewhere else on this wiki, and on some message boards. Got a bit of grief about it too. I still we think we need a Constucticon Confusion type article/page on the wiki, to nicely describe the Constructicon/Bonecrusher/drone confusion. Who knows, it could be an article that will be further expanded with Bay directing Transformers 3. [[User:Drmick|Drmick]] 13:02, 22 October 2009 (EDT)

Talk:Scrapper (ROTF)

2010-08-28T05:49:25Z

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It would appear as though the Constructicon Scouts share the same chassis as Scrapper. Should we use the pic of the Scout for Scrapper's article? [[User:Godziboy1993|Godziboy1993]] 13:17, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
:I just rewatched the movie, and the cannibalized Constructicon was the one who looks like a Constructicon scout. Also, he is clearly shown using the claw at the back, so it's not Hightower. I think we can say it's Scrapper now.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 17:53, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
::[http://www.jesuschristwhatthehell.com At 0:16, you can clearly see Scrapper, (red) Rampage, Long Haul, and Mixmaster]. However, it soon shows a yellow-red Volvo Excavator (maybe it's just Ravage messing around in it?). Then, it switches to what is clearly Scrapper's robot mode. I think we can safely say it's Scrapper, and the excavator is some kind of error.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:34, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:::"Scrapper's" robot mode is the first to dive into the water and is yellow, right? The red robot mode goes right before Long Haul and is a pogo-stick, which means the red vehicle in the wide shot is Rampage. It appears to me there is a Constructicon with an excavator altmode that transformes into a Scrapper-like robot mode (by process of elimination). Rampage looks like the smallest one so I don't know why they killed the excavator guy, but oh well. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 23:02, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
::::The Volvo excavator is yellow and clearly has a giant Decepticon logo on him. His robot mode's arms are noticeably skinnier than Scrapper's. I think those two factors can qualify him as a different character from Scrapper. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:05, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>grrgh<nowiki>*</nowiki> Seriously, more bootleg discussion? Regardless, I don't know exactly against what we're judging the skinniness of Scrapper's arms. Early concept art? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:11, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::[http://frenzyrumble.com/_images/rotf1.jpg This image of Scrapper from an HD trailer] is what I'm comparing the arms on, and the altmode was determined between identifying the vehicle mode as a treaded vehicle of sorts (initially believed by myself to be Hightower), and an Allspark member identified it as a Volvo excavator. So no bootlegs were used in my investigation. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:29, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
:::What I'm saying is, at the 0:16 mark, there is pretty clearly Scrapper's alt mode, a front load shovel. The Volvo excavator then appears in the close-up shot, but since we never see it transform, it's entirely possible ''it's not even a Transformer'' - that shot is heavily obscured, and Scrapper could be right behind it.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 02:00, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Your link got pulled. For good reason, what with being illegal bootleg and all. Which for this wiki is a big no-go. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:03, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
::Fine with me. I uploaded a clip of the shot I'm talking about. You can even tell that it has four wheels from above. If an edited screenshot is un-kosher too, go ahead and delete it, but it's pretty clear it's Scrapper. [[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 02:10, 13 July 2009 (EDT)

::As for the robot mode arms being skinnier - I'm sorry, that's completely in your head, it's the same robot mode. In the underwater scene, you can even see that he has the same tread-like thighs, as well as the same pincer-arm.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 02:17, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Jesus, what was just said about no bootlegs? And besides, what's more reliable, a blurry wide shot or clear closeups on the boat showing a Decepticon-sigiled Volvo excavator right next to Mixmaster? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:13, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
:::...the fact that you can clearly see a front-loader, that it looks exactly like Scrapper's robot mode, and that there is no identified character for "ze little one"? I don't know, what do you think?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 02:17, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
::::There's also no identified character (still alive) for the Bonecrusher lookalike but we're still counting him as a character. Why should Ze Little One be treated differently? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:19, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
:::...because the Bonecrusher one has actually been identified ''anywhere'' with a robot and vehicle mode. Meanwhile, we've got a volvo excavator, shown in one shot, that never transforms, but a Scrapper-clone and front-loader in the preceding and after shots, that actually correlate to a character in the same sub-group as the other characters. You're demanding that they made a completely unnamed, unused in any other media, unfitting Constructicon in a movie that positively ''showcases'' model recycling.
:::Also, [http://www.kurtzused.com/images/Volvo/volvoL90E-3.jpg Volvo makes front loaders as well]. There is plenty of reason to suspect that it was merely an error, for whatever reason. They also make [http://www.garberent.com/toypics/VolvoBL711.87.jpg some with the back-claw], so it's possible that that is part of the mix-up.
:::Whatever the Excavator is doing there, it's ''not'' "ze little one", as that robot mode is identical to a Scrapper.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 02:30, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
::It's a bootlegged scene, fine, delete it from the wiki. But unless you're trying to claim that it's somehow been edited, ''then that doesn't matter for use as evidence''. You can see the front-load shovel, you can make out the four wheels, and in robot mode, you can see the tread-knees, the pincer claw, and most of the head, identical to Scrapper.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 02:34, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
::::The front-loader is not seen in any "after shot". You see a blur that kind of looks like a front loader in your copyright-infringing pic and from then on it's Decepticon-sigiled Volvo Excavator next to Mixmaster all the way through. It's got treads, whereas the front loader has wheels. The excavator is shown more prominently than the front loader would be, and the robot mode model doesn't match 100% in my eyes, with Ze Little One's arms being a lot slimmer than Scrapper's. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:37, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
:::I'm sorry then. I can clearly see a front-load shovel, and a back-placed cockpit, and it sure as hell doesn't have the excavator claw, and doesn't appear to have treads. Hell, you can even tell that Mixmaster is closer to the other side of the alley, while the excavator stretches out farther then him, has the claw, nothing in front of the wheels (as the topshot clearly does), and a front-placed cockpit.
:::As for the robot mode bit - again, I'm sorry, but it's Scrapper. I can tell that it has at least Scrapper's pincers (visible when it jumps in, and again when Scalpel is released), wheel-heels (at 1:46), and sphere-head (also at 1:46). As for the thinner arms, I think you might be forgetting that [[:Image:ROTF Legends Scrapper.jpg|Scrapper's arms are hinged]]. You can even obliquely see it in the shot you posted. Really, every detail I can observe matches Scrapper. It's Scrapper.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 02:51, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
::Here, this should be acceptable, since it's linked to on the main ROTF film talk page: [http://deriksmith.livejournal.com/41048.html]. It explains the clamp (but not the treads and front-cockpit), which doesn't actually appear on any volvo excavators that I can find images for.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 02:59, 13 July 2009 (EDT)

The scene is a mess. It was either shot multiple times, or it had it's premise changed after footage was shot.

The walls don't match int he close shots, nor do the vehicles. If I had to ''guess'' I'd say that Ravage's landign was probably shot at some inland shipyard, and the "Bayos at sea" flyover had the vehicles digitally composited in. When plans changed for whatever reason, the portmost vehicle became Scrapper-or-a-lookalike in the establishing shot-- which it clearly isn't in the close-in shots.

Yelling at one another about treads vs. wheeled loaders isn't productive-- the scene shows '''both'''. At some point plans changed, and the scene got adjusted. (I think maybe the practical claw-shot was a drop-in filmed later, it fits the worst of anything.)

But the main establishing shot shows Scrapper's vehicle mode and the CGI is of Scrapper's robot mode. So '''my''' only question is... is that robot mode tan, or orange when he jumps off the side? Because Scrapper is '''very''' orange when he attacks Sam and Mikaela in the desert (there's a link from the HD trailer above) and I want to know if these two univs 'look different' in-universe. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:11, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
::Thank you.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 07:59, 13 July 2009 (EDT)

== On an unrelated note (main pic) ==

I posted a [http://frenzyrumble.com/_images/rotf1.jpg screencap taken from the HD trailer] during the previous topic. If we cropped it out to focus on Scrapper himself, much like what was done with [[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]] for his article, would that be fine, or is he too much "in motion" for it to suffice as a main pic? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:05, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
: Naw, that's good enough, at least until the DVD. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:49, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

== Concept art pic ==

[[Image:ROTF Constructicon concept.jpg|thumb|right|300px]]
Well, Paul Ozzimo has finally gotten around to making his website accessible to viewers. While he hasn't filled in the [[Revenge of the Fallen]] portion yet, images of his work on the film do appear as part of the quick tour feature. One of those is a Constructicon that I believe to be Scrapper. Can we use this, or is it too different from the final product? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 14:55, 21 August 2009 (EDT)
:That's not Scrapper, head and arms are wrong...however it might very well be Ze Little One. [[User:Eire]]
::It has nearly the same thighs and waist, and it's left arm matches Scrapper's right exactly. It's probably an early concept for Scrapper, seeing as it looks a lot rougher. Though, the lights its using do look like they were specifically designed for the underwater sequence, and instead of Scrapper's tire thighs it has track thighs, so this might be actual concrete proof that ze little one is a variant of the Scrapper bodyframe.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 01:36, 22 August 2009 (EDT)
:::The pincer-thing certainly seems to favor Ze Little One. (And him being a ''variant'' of Scrapper would actually settle a lot of problems.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:00, 22 August 2009 (EDT)
Apparently a voyager scrapper was confirmed at BotCon 2009, says wikipedia, but there is no citation so, alas, it is probably fanwank.
;;;;There are no wheels here. He definetly looks like a tracked vehicle (you can see tracks on his right arm and on his right torso) so probably is 'Ze little one'.

== Toy Rumors ==

There have been on-again/off-again rumors that Scrapper's going to get an individual Voyager-class toy. This has been mostly been appearing on Wikipedia. Since this claim disappears a few days after it pops up, I'm not certain whether to believe it or not. But the claims have always mentioned that his individual toy was mentioned at Botcon 2009. Does anyone know whether that's true or not? [[User:Cydra]] 12:31, 4 September 2009 (EST)

If it is true, I'll be the first to get it

== Constructicon scout? ==

I don't think calling Scrapper a [[Constructicon Scout]] is going to fly. That is a specific video game concept. Plus, even if it could be applied, the following is misleading. "He's either the loader that forms the right arm of Devastator or the one who saw action at the battle of Egypt." Scrapper is the Devastator component, according to both [[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe]] and the toys. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:58, 26 October 2009 (EDT)
:I know, I've suggested actually moving the information on the Scrapper NEST fought to the Scout article, see [[Talk:Constructicon Scout]]. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 17:59, 26 October 2009 (EDT)

Talk:Terradive (TF 2010)

2010-08-28T05:42:31Z

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Should we put him in Revenge of the fallen characters because he is on the hasbro website for ROTF and his toy certainly lookslike a live action mold --[[Special:Contributions/92.238.181.196|92.238.181.196]] 11:59, 18 July 2010 (EDT)
: 1) Hasbro's current website isn't for ROTF. 2) That's not how it works. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:06, 18 July 2010 (EDT)

== toy ==
You know that terradive's toy is available? I've seen it.

Talk:Transformers: Cyber Missions

2010-08-28T04:10:11Z

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So, hey, I thought I'd watch the [http://www.hasbro.com/monkeybartv/default.cfm?page=Entertainment/Videos/VideoSelect&aid=4258 GIJOE Operation HISS shorts] as well, and THEY have CREDITS. They say the Joe shorts are produced by [http://www.steelehouse.com/main.html Steelhouse Productions]. They proooobably also do the Transformers shorts. Voice actors include Jake Minton, LaMorne Harris, Nathan Allen, Marika Mashburn, Chris Burnham, and Susan Bishop, so they do seem to be hiring more than one person to do everyone, if this is representative of the TF shorts. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:03, 9 March 2010 (EST)
: After some more Google digging, it looks like Steelehouse might be affiliated with Joe's animation shorts only. I get lots of hits for Steelehouse and Joe, but none for Steelehouse and Transformers. So I guess it's probably a different studio for TF after all. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:19, 9 March 2010 (EST)

== Episode 4 ==

If anyone feels like watching and making a page... [http://promos.ytv.com/transformersROTF/ Cyber Missions 4 is up at YTV.com]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:19, 27 March 2010 (EDT)
:<s>Hmm, it's not working for me - I just get a repeated message about the content not being available. Has anyone been able to view it?</s> It's Canadian viewers only! Darn! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:29, 27 March 2010 (EDT)

[[Image:]]
== Upcoming episodes==
You know there is an episode 9, 10 and 11? I tried creating a page on them but it was so bad that it was deleted.
== Category ==

There should be a category that ties all of the Cyber Missions featured characters together (Bumblebee, Ratchet, Smolder...). [[:Category:Revenge of the Fallen]] doesn't seem quite right since this is, at best, post-ROTF movieverse fiction. How about "Category:Cyber Missions characters"? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:41, 3 August 2010 (EDT)

I agree, [[:Category:Revenge of the Fallen]] isn't exactly accurate enough.