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Mark Twain

2012-01-21T08:36:41Z

24.58.224.22: /* Notes */ ... as such, removing category.

[[Image:Marktwain.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Reports of his death are greatly exaggerated.]]

'''Mark Twain''' was the pen name of '''Samuel Clemens''', a satirist known for his wit and his travelings. He wrote ''Adventures of Huckleberry Finn'', which many consider to be ''the'' Great [[United States of America|American]] Novel, and ''The Adventures of Tom Sawyer''.

Around [[1867]], he fought (and bested) [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]].

==Fiction==
===''Hearts of Steel''===
While living in [[San Francisco]], Mark Twain befriended other writers of his day, such as [[Jules Verne]]. At great expense, Mark Twain hired a ferry to take him and Verne out into the middle of San Francisco Bay to witness [[Tobias Muldoon]]'s new invention, a "sub-marine". However, a technical mishap plunged the sub-marine to the bottom of the bay, a misfortune that brought laughter from Twain, Verne, and the ferry's skipper. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 1|Hearts of Steel #1}}

[[Image:Marktwainvsravage.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Mark Twain is friggin' badass, man.]]

While at the estate of Muldoon's investor, [[Stanford Merriweather]], Muldoon suddenly returned, pursued by the [[Decepticon]] [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]]. Due to Muldoon's bravery, he was able to shepherd everyone out of the house. Twain, in the meantime, had intentionally left a gas leak. Tossing his [[cigar]] into the house, he caused it to explode, sending a singed Ravage off into the distance. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 3|Hearts of Steel #3}}

Ultimately, Mark Twain teamed up with Muldoon, Merriweather and his daughter [[Kitty Merriweather|Kitty]], steel-drivin' man [[John Henry]], and the [[Autobot]]s to defeat the Decepticons and their impressive locomotive engineering feat, the [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 4|Hearts of Steel #4}}
{{--}}

==Notes==
* In the real world, Mark Twain did not know Jules Verne personally. However, he also never had the distinction of fighting a giant mechanical cat from space,[[[Help:Citing sources|''citation needed'']]] so make what you will of the story.

==External links==
*[[wikipedia:Mark_Twain|Mark Twain on Wikipedia.]]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Twain, Mark}}
[[Category:Generation 1 humans]]
[[Category:Entertainers]]
[[Category:Real people]]

Mark Twain

2012-01-21T08:36:16Z

24.58.224.22: /* Notes */ I think this joke is really funny, but it would probably be better if it wasn't in the category if it doesn't really need cites.

[[Image:Marktwain.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Reports of his death are greatly exaggerated.]]

'''Mark Twain''' was the pen name of '''Samuel Clemens''', a satirist known for his wit and his travelings. He wrote ''Adventures of Huckleberry Finn'', which many consider to be ''the'' Great [[United States of America|American]] Novel, and ''The Adventures of Tom Sawyer''.

Around [[1867]], he fought (and bested) [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]].

==Fiction==
===''Hearts of Steel''===
While living in [[San Francisco]], Mark Twain befriended other writers of his day, such as [[Jules Verne]]. At great expense, Mark Twain hired a ferry to take him and Verne out into the middle of San Francisco Bay to witness [[Tobias Muldoon]]'s new invention, a "sub-marine". However, a technical mishap plunged the sub-marine to the bottom of the bay, a misfortune that brought laughter from Twain, Verne, and the ferry's skipper. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 1|Hearts of Steel #1}}

[[Image:Marktwainvsravage.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Mark Twain is friggin' badass, man.]]

While at the estate of Muldoon's investor, [[Stanford Merriweather]], Muldoon suddenly returned, pursued by the [[Decepticon]] [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]]. Due to Muldoon's bravery, he was able to shepherd everyone out of the house. Twain, in the meantime, had intentionally left a gas leak. Tossing his [[cigar]] into the house, he caused it to explode, sending a singed Ravage off into the distance. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 3|Hearts of Steel #3}}

Ultimately, Mark Twain teamed up with Muldoon, Merriweather and his daughter [[Kitty Merriweather|Kitty]], steel-drivin' man [[John Henry]], and the [[Autobot]]s to defeat the Decepticons and their impressive locomotive engineering feat, the [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 4|Hearts of Steel #4}}
{{--}}

==Notes==
* In the real world, Mark Twain did not know Jules Verne personally. However, he also never had the distinction of fighting a giant mechanical cat from space,[[[Help:Citing sources|''citation needed'']]][[Category:Articles needing citations]] so make what you will of the story.

==External links==
*[[wikipedia:Mark_Twain|Mark Twain on Wikipedia.]]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Twain, Mark}}
[[Category:Generation 1 humans]]
[[Category:Entertainers]]
[[Category:Real people]]

Super Tuner Throwdown

2012-01-15T23:31:17Z

24.58.224.22: /* Notes */

:''The Super Tuner Throwdown is an event from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]] portion of the [[live-action film series]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Blowpipe (ROTF)|Blowpipe]] has been modifying his body with the best racing tech ever since he got to [[Earth]]. And now, he's ready to test his new super-speed. What better way to prove his new gear's power than by hunting down, out-racing, and destroying [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]], the [[Decepticon]]s' master of the hit-and-run, with emphasis on the "run"? Blowpipe revs up his engine, ready for a race to the finish that would come to be called the '''Super Tuner Throwdown'''!

==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
[[Image:ROTF-toy_SuperTunerBox.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Super Tuner Throwdown''' (Deluxe two-pack, 2009)

: This double-pack was available [[exclusive]]ly at [[Walmart]] stores, coming with the unique Blowpipe toy and a much less unique Sideways.

: Blowpipe is a [[redeco]] of the first film's [[Dropkick]] toy, in blue and gray as an homage to [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[Pipes (G1)|Pipes]]. He transforms into a customized [[wikipedia:Chevrolet_Silverado|Chevrolet Silverado]] pickup truck (or a similar model just different enough to avoid paying a licensing fee). His flatbed cover conceals a giant claw/plier deployed from the tailgate by a sliding knob on top. This assembly becomes a hand-held weapon for his robot mode. He also has (non-firing) twin blasters on the underside of each forearm in robot mode. This mold was also used to make [[Salvage (Movie)|Salvage]].

: Sideways is virtually identical to the dark-deco variant of his individual release, transforming into a close-enough-but-not-so-close-to-need-to-get-licensing Audi R8. When the front bumper is pressed, his front pair of wheels automatically flip underneath the hood, and his robot abs flip down. His biceps feature [[Mech Alive]] action: you can see internal gears moving in his forearms when moving his arms, as well as a turning disk on each of his elbows. On his right arm is a spinning sawblade. This mold was [[retool]]ed into the Deluxe class version of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Dead End (ROTF)|Dead End]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/Sideways/sideways.htm More information on Sideways at TFU.info]''

==Notes==
* Obviously, Blowpipe didn't win, as Sideways lived all the way up until his bisection at the hands of [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]] in [[Shanghai]].

* The box-bottom cross-sell features [[Hoist (Movie)|Hoist]] and [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]]... which is a [[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs]] exclusive set. Not only that, but the packaging erroneously says they're "sold separately" (they are sold separately from ''this'' set, but not from each other).

[[Category: Battles]]
[[Category:Live-action film series history]]
[[Category: Revenge of the Fallen]]
[[Category: Wal-Mart exclusives]]

Rav (DOTM)

2012-01-15T23:08:06Z

24.58.224.22: /* Dark of the Moon */ fix typo

{{factions|minicon|autobot}}
{{disambig2|the ''Dark of the Moon'' Mini-Con|the Deployer|Rav (BM)}}
:''Rav is an [[Autobot]]-allied [[Mini-Con]] from the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (franchise)|Dark of the Moon]] portion of the [[live-action film series]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:DOTM-toy Rav.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Okay, that's plenty obscene-looking.]]

In some ways, '''Rav'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s position as one of lowest ranked robots in the Autobot army is understandable. He's of only average intelligence, physically feeble, and worryingly fragile. However, that's only one side of the story. If you look past those things, you'll see that Rav is fast enough to swoop in past enemy lines and well-armed enough to make a difference when he gets there. This bot has the skills where they matter. What's more, despite his physical limitations, he's one of the bravest warriors you're ever likely to meet.<ref>Rav's single-carded [[Tech Spec]]s.</ref>

He might be friends with [[Triceradon (DOTM)|Triceradon]], [[Dualor (DOTM)|Dualor]], and [[Catilla (DOTM)|Catilla]].

==Toys==
===Dark of the Moon===
*'''Rav''' (Mini-Con, 2011)

: Rav is a [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' [[Swoop (G1)#Classics 2|Swoop]], transforming into a robotic pteranodon. His colors are an [[homage]] to Swoop's cartoon appearance. He was only available individually as a shared "[[exclusive]]" between online retailers Big Bad Toy Store and Entertainment Earth and "[[market six]]" discount/closeout retailers. He was sold individually alongside [[Triceradon (DOTM)|Triceradon]], [[Dualor (DOTM)|Dualor]] and [[Catilla (DOTM)|Catilla]]. His jointing allows him to stand on his hind-feet as well as assume a normal flying position.

: A great many samples of Rav have their [[Powerlinx]] socket hideously warped to the point of uselessness. Be careful.

: This mold was also used to make [[Reptix]], and ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Windrazor (Universe)|Windrazor]].

{{-}}

==Notes==
[[Image:DOTM-toy RavStock.jpg|right|thumb|100px|I wuv you DIS MUCH!]]
* Rav's cardback photo is hilariously mistransformed, making his ptero-mode claws into his robot-mode hands. Also, his beast-mode head is shoved down over his face.

==References==
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[[Category:Dark of the Moon Autobots]]
[[Category:Live-action film series Mini-Cons]]
[[Category:Toy-only characters]]

X-Dimension Mini-Con

2012-01-15T22:32:19Z

24.58.224.22: /* Notes */

The '''[[X-Dimension]] Microns''' are a series of [[redeco]]s of various [[Mini-Con]] Teams released by [[Takara]]. These redecos were more limited than the original color schemes, but were still standard retail-sale items (with one exception).

Of the eleven different Mini-Con Team mold-sets, all but one team—the [[Street Speed Mini-Con Team]]—got the X-Dimension treatment. Nine of those teams were released close to the originals; the packaging was almost wholly unchanged; only the cardboard cardfront behind the plastic bubble reflected the change by adding "X-Dimension" to the text and giving the Team a new ID number. The final Team, the [[Street Action Mini-Con Team]], was available only as part of the Toys "R" Us [[exclusive]] "Magna Convoy DX set" multi-pack.

* '''MM-07''' [[Air Defense Mini-Con Team (Armada)|Air Defense Microns X-Dimension]]
* '''MM-08''' [[Land Military Mini-Con Team|Land Military Microns X-Dimension]]
* '''MM-09''' [[Destruction Mini-Con Team|Destruction Microns X-Dimension]]
* '''MM-10''' [[Race Mini-Con Team|Race Microns X-Dimension]]
* '''MM-12''' [[Air Military Mini-Con Team|Air Military Microns X-Dimension]]
* '''MM-14''' [[Space Mini-Con Team|Space Microns X-Dimension]]
* '''MM-18''' [[Sea Mini-Con Team|Sea Microns X-Dimension]]
* '''MM-19''' [[Adventure Mini-Con Team|Adventure Microns X-Dimension]]
* '''MM-21''' [[Emergency Mini-Con Team|Emergency Microns X-Dimension]]
* [[Street Action Mini-Con Team|Street Action Microns X-Dimension]]

==Gallery==
<gallery caption="Sample gallery" widths="200px" heights="150px" perrow="3">
Image:2003-airdefensemicron-xdimension-toys.jpg| '''MM-07''' [[Air Defense Mini-Con Team (Armada)|Air Defense Microns]]
Image:2003-landmilitarymicron-xdimension-toys.jpg| '''MM-08''' [[Land Military Mini-Con Team|Land Military Microns]]
Image:2003-destructionmicron-xdimension-toys.jpg| '''MM-09''' [[Destruction Mini-Con Team|Destruction Microns]]
Image:2003-racemicron-xdimension-toys.jpg| '''MM-10''' [[Race Mini-Con Team|Race Microns]]
Image:2003-airmilitarymicron-xdimension-toys2.jpg| '''MM-12''' [[Air Military Mini-Con Team|Air Military Microns]]
Image:2003-spacemicron-xdimension-toys.jpg| '''MM-14''' [[Space Mini-Con Team|Space Microns]]

Image:2003-seamicron-xdimension-toys.jpg| '''MM-18''' [[Sea Mini-Con Team|Sea Microns]]
Image:2003-adventuremicron-xdimension-toys.jpg| '''MM-19''' [[Adventure Mini-Con Team|Adventure Microns]]
Image:2003-emergencymicron-xdimension-toys.jpg| '''MM-21''' [[Emergency Mini-Con Team|Emergency Microns]]
Image:2003-streetactionmicron-xdimension-toys.jpg|[[Street Action Mini-Con Team|Street Action Microns]]
</gallery>

==Notes==
* According to the ''[[Micron Legend Year Book 2003]]'' retrospective, the X-Dimension color schemes were planned to be used in an alternate-universe comic story that would follow the conflict from the viewpoint of the Mini-Cons. However, this series was never produced, and no reason is given as to why. A comic series from the perspective of Mini-Cons, ''[[Linkage]]'', was produced and packaged with the ''Micron Legend'' DVDS, but it takes place within the same universe as the cartoon.

[[Category:Armada]]
[[Category:Mini-Con teams]]

Prowl 2

2012-01-13T00:48:00Z

24.58.224.22: Not to step into it too much, but "Controversy" implies something more severe and isn't as specific, this seems better, given that that's what the section is actually about.

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{{disambig3|Prowl}}
:''Prowl 2 is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]] series.''

[[Image:Prowl2 RID TinyTinArt.jpg|right|96px|thumb|You don't know me.]]
Not much is known about '''Prowl 2''', besides that he's a [[Spy Changer]]. He might be [[Prowl (RID)|Prowl]], he might be [[Prowl II|another Prowl]], or he might be his ''own'' damn Prowl. ''You'' don't know. NOBODY knows.

==Identity==
Prowl 2 only exists as a toy in the ''Robots in Disguise'' line with no [[bio]] or story appearances to explain who he is. [[Optimus Prime (RID)|A]] [[Ultra Magnus (RID)|handful]] [[X-Brawn|of]] [[Scourge (RID)|other]] [[Side Burn (RID)|characters]] received Spy Changer toys, though most of them looked more like their larger versions and they lacked the anomalous "2" suffix. The "Super" redecoes of the Deluxe RID Car Brothers were listed in store computers with the numeral "2" following their names. The "Prowl 2" Spy Changer's deco is not dissimilar to the redeco of Deluxe Prowl, and it is entirely reasonable to assume that it was intended as a Spy Changer version of that toy. This might have remained simply an odd footnote in Transformers lore, but then the [[Transformers: Alternators|''Binaltech'' fiction]] used the name "Prowl 2" for its own incarnation of [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] (who would, in a later [[retcon]], be rolled into a ''[[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' character as "[[Prowl II]]").

Some fans pass the ''Binaltech'' reference off as merely a nod, since ''Binaltech'' takes place in a branch of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|''Generation 1'' cartoon]] timeline. However, the ''Generation 1'' cartoon and ''Car Robots'' (the original Japanese version of ''Robots in Disguise'') are actually in the same universe according to [[Continuity#Unified Japanese continuities|Japanese continuity]]. On the other hand, Prowl 2 wasn't in ''Car Robots;'' he was an American addition. On the other ''other'' hand, ''Binaltech's'' writer, [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]], is famously knowledgeable of non-Japanese Transformers, and he even worked [[Mirage GT|another anomalous ''Robots in Disguise'' suffix]] into [[Genetronic Translink System|''Binaltech'' terminology]]. Moreover, even if the series are viewed as separate, ''Robots in Disguise'' is no stranger to [[Axer|dimension]]-[[Sideways (RID)|hoppers]].

The upshot of it all is that no one can say who Prowl 2 "really" is. The evidence is simply too scant and inconclusive. Any definitive answers lie only in the realm of [[fanon]].

==Toys==
===Robots in Disguise===
[[Image:Prowl2 RID toy.jpg|300px|thumb|I am no one. And everyone.]]
*'''Side Swipe & Prowl 2''' (Basic 2-pack, 2001)

: Originally an unreleased ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bots]] mold, Prowl transforms into a police car. He has through-axle construction to allow for super-fast rolling in car mode. Like his fellow "new"-mold teammates, his rifle stores under his car mode. He was available in a two-pack with [[Side Swipe (RID)|Side Swipe]].

: This mold was used to make ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and a different ''Universe'' [[Prowl (Spychanger)|Prowl]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Autobot/Prowl2/prowl2.htm More information on Prowl 2 at TFU.info]''

*'''Prowl 2''' (Tiny Tins, 2001)

: Prowl 2 was one of several ''Robots in Disguise'' toys to be sold as an individual in a [[Tiny Tins]] release, with a pocket-sized carrying case. The actual toy is unchanged from the two-pack version.

[[Category:Robots in Disguise Autobots]]
[[Category:Spy Changers]]

Bumblebee (Movie)

2012-01-11T00:08:00Z

24.58.224.22: /* Robot mode and CG model(s) */ This makes almost no sense whatsoever.

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{{disambig3|Bumblebee}}{{suite}}
:''Bumblebee is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]]. He is also known as '''N.B.E.-02'''.''

[[Image:TF-Alliance03 Cover Nizzi.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"Groovy, bee-otch!"]]
'''Bumblebee''' is one of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]'s most trusted lieutenants. Although he is not the strongest or most powerful of the Autobots, Bumblebee more than makes up for this with a bottomless well of luck, determination and bravery. He would gladly give his life to protect others and stop the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]].

Badly damaged in battle, Bumblebee lost the ability to speak verbally, though he can still communicate over inter-Autobot frequencies (in a fashion that seems somewhat akin to instant messaging, a usable but more distant and less personal means of interaction). He can also communicate with the Autobots' human allies and his friend, [[Sam Witwicky]], by playing audio clips from popular media on his radio.

{{quote|[[William Lennox|You]] wanna lay the fate of the world on [[Sam Witwicky|the kid]]'s Camaro? That's cool.|[[Seymour Simmons|Agent Simmons]]|''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]''}}

==Fiction==
===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
[[Image:Defiance1_Cliffjumper_Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|left|300px|"Tell Hasbro that [[Cliffjumper (disambiguation)|I]] don't want to be a [[repaint]] of [[Bumblebee (disambiguation)|you]] anymore!"]]

Many years in the past, Bumblebee was [[hatchling|hatched]] among the second generation since the rediscovery of the [[AllSpark]] and revival of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 1|Movie Prequel #1}} He and [[Cliffjumper (Movie)|Cliffjumper]] were guardians of the AllSpark at the [[Simfur Temple|Temple]] of [[Simfur]]. One day, Bumblebee wondered aloud why Optimus and [[Lord High Protector]] [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] were out investigating the nearby excavation site when the AllSpark was "freaking" out with energy spikes. Cliffjumper assured him that whatever Optimus and the others were investigating, it must have been important, then reminded his colleague that they had their duties. When Bumblebee admitted nerves, Cliffjumper said that the two of them could handle anything, and just to let trouble come to them. He would soon regret those words when aliens attacked Simfur. They were seeking cover inside the temple when Lord Megatron swooped in, berated them for not taking the fight to the enemy and destroyed their opponent. He then told commander [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] to keep the lowly security guards out of the way of the military. {{storylink|Defiance issue 1|Defiance #1}}

Bumblebee was concerned this was the start of something ''big'', to which Cliffjumper agreed, but he felt that as little cogs in the great machine, all they needed to do was stand guard. [[Prowl (Movie)|Prowl]] advised them to stay at their posts and report to him of any unusual activity from the AllSpark during the battle. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 2|Defiance #2}}

[[Image:Defiance3_Optimus_Bumblebee_orders.jpg|thumb|300px|Well, that's one way to make a first impression.]]

After [[The Fallen|the relic]] informed Megatron of Optimus' break and enter of his personal quarters, Bumblebee, [[Smokescreen (Movie)|Smokescreen]], Cliffjumper, [[Camshaft (Movie)|Camshaft]], [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] and Prowl were sent to the ruins near [[Burthov]] to arrest Optimus ''Prime's'' party on trumped-up charges of treason. When Optimus angrily demanded to know just what he had done to be charged with treason, Bumblebee pointed his weapon at the science leader and said they were just following orders, which seemed to satisfy Optimus. What the security officers didn't know was they were being led into a trap, and soldiers loyal to Megatron were under orders to eliminate all but Optimus. After being hit by an explosive round, the group banded together, realising they had all been marked for death. Optimus ordered them to flee to Burthov while he took care of Starscream's group personally. {{storylink|Defiance issue 3|Defiance #3}} Bumblebee hauled [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] from the wreckage. {{storylink|Foundation issue 3|Foundation #3}}

[[Image:Defiance_Bumblebee_vehiclemodes.jpg|thumb|left|300px|My alt-mode is Pac-Man!]]

While on an apparent scouting mission, Bumblebee and Arcee discovered the ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]'' while it was under construction and reported their findings back to Prowl. Then Bumblebee transformed into a ball and Arcee transformed into a hover-bike and they both headed back to base. When the ''Nemesis'' was completed, Bumblebee and Arcee were there once again to witness the majority of the [[Decepticon]] forces board and take off for parts unknown to them.

With the bulk of the war-like Decepticons gone into space, the Autobots were able to hold their own in their resistance to Megatron's rule, but the war was ever-escalating in intensity, leading to increasing casualties and devastation to Cybertron. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4|Defiance #4}} Bumblebee was part of an assault on Simfur Temple to activate [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]]'s "[[pillar|torch]]" that he promised would end the war, {{storylink|Foundation issue 3|Foundation #3}} but when Starscream blew up Sentinel's [[Ark (DOTM)|ship]], Bumblebee retreated with the rest of the Autobots. However, the battle had weakened Decepticon forces to the extent that the Autobots were soon able to steal the AllSpark. {{storylink|Foundation issue 4|Foundation #4}}

[[Image:MovieMegatron Bumblebee torture comic.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Megatron's attempt at a "Give me your arm!" meme didn't really take off...]]

Optimus Prime made the desperate decision to launch the AllSpark into space. This decision took Bumblebee by surprise, but he supported Optimus. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4|Defiance #4}} Bumblebee commanded the Autobot forces at Tyger Pax on Cybertron attempting to hold the Decepticons off while the AllSpark was launched off-planet. He succeeded, but Megatron crushed his voice box, and he lost his ability to speak in the process. [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] has been having trouble fixing it ever since. Bumblebee was declared a hero for his actions, but he feared that all they had done was potentially spread their war to other worlds. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 1|Movie Prequel #1}}

Later, he was the first to track the AllSpark to [[Earth]], making planetfall in 2003. Here, he learned to express his emotions by tuning in appropriately emotive music on his car radio. Though the clandestine [[human]] organization [[Sector Seven]] tracked his descent {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 2|Movie Prequel #2}} and secured the area in [[Virginia]] where he landed, his quick assumption of a local alternate mode disguise allowed him to escape via Interstate 64. Bumblebee's search for the AllSpark began in St. Louis, Missouri, where he used a remote link to a coffee shop computer to search [[Shwiggle]] for any signs of extra-terrestrial sightings. There, he discovered the legend of the [[Ice Man]], and the story of Captain [[Archibald Witwicky]]. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 3|Movie Prequel #3}}

Bumblebee's quest took him to [[Baton Rouge]], Louisiana, where Captain Witwicky had been committed. First he visited the ruins of the long-abandoned [[Psychopathic Institute for the Long-Term Insane]], Witwicky's final home. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 4|Movie Prequel #4}} From there, Bumblebee headed into downtown, where he scanned the records of Captain Witwicky from an unnamed [[asylum]]. This action unfortunately put Sector Seven onto his trail.

The Baton Rouge clues led Bumblebee to [[Springfield]], Missouri, in search of Witwicky's son [[Clarence Witwicky|Clarence]]. En route, he evaded the first of several attacks by Sector Seven. In Springfield, he found records of Clarence's descendants, and started out to track them down. The oldest son, [[Ben Witwicky|Ben]], had resided in Denver, Colorado, but the trail ended there. En route to his next stop in Tucson, Bumblebee was again attacked by Sector Seven, evading their helicopters by blinding them and rocketing off at high speed. Not long after, he was attacked by [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] in the desert. {{storylink|Interlude}}

Damaged and smoking, Bumblebee stopped by the roadside to rest and recover. Suddenly detecting a burst of AllSpark energy, he continued onwards out of [[Colorado]]. In [[New Mexico]], as he approached the source of the AllSpark energy, he came under attack once again from Barricade. Other Decepticons, meanwhile, attacked the energy source and found it to be a Sector Seven ruse. Bumblebee managed to escape Barricade again, though unbeknownst to him the Decepticons let him go so that they could track him. Eventually, his search took him to [[Tranquility]], [[Nevada]], {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 4|Movie Prequel #4}} where he would soon encounter [[Sam Witwicky]].

===''Transformers: Beginnings''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Mark Ryan]]

[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] entrusted Bumblebee with the secret that the AllSpark would be sent into deep space to prevent Lord Megatron from possessing and corrupting it. Just after the launch, Megatron attacked Bumblebee in rage at losing the AllSpark and shattered the Autobot's voice capacitor beyond repair.

Bumblebee arrived on Earth and, sensing the AllSpark was near, took on local camouflage to search for the artifact. He immediately attracted the attention of Sector Seven agents and the Decepticons. {{storylink|Transformers: Beginnings}}

{{note|Transformers: Beginnings is a condensed, flash-animated retelling of the [[IDW Publishing|IDW]] [[Transformers: Movie Prequel |Movie Prequel]] that is detailed above this section.}}

===''Ghosts of Yesterday'' prequel novel===
Between Tyger Pax and his arrival on Earth, Bumblebee and the rest of the [[Ark (Movie)|''Ark'']] crew encountered an alien ship, the ''[[Ghost 1]]'', in an abandoned solar system. After the ship turned tail and headed for one of the planet, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]] sent Bumblebee down after it. Bumblebee located the ship, and was about to approach it when [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] arrived, and he was forced to retreat under the Decepticon's superior firepower. Shortly after discovering some apparently artificial pillars, the ground gave way, and Bumblebee found himself plunged into a cave system. With his radio damaged, he explored the caves, and encountered giant worm creatures. Though they were only organic, they had managed to back him into a corner by the time Optimus arrived to rescue him.

The pair had a brief encounter with Starscream and the ''Ghost 1'', the crew of which had been persuaded by the Decepticon that the Autobots were the aggressors in the Transformer war. Optimus and Bumblebee retreated back below ground, and later found the ''Ghost 1'' in a battered state, having been abandoned by Starscream. Bumblebee made contact with it, and the earlier misunderstanding was soon cleared up. When more of the worm creatures turned up, Bumblebee acted as a diversion so Optimus could blast a way out of the caves, and everyone escaped intact. They returned to the ''Ark'' in time to fight the Decepticons once more. Bumblebee joined [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] in attacking [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]], though the Decepticon gave them more than enough trouble. {{storylink|Ghosts of Yesterday}}

===''Transformers'' (2007) film===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Mark Ryan]] (English), [[Hiroshi Iwasaki]] (Japan radio voice) [[Akio Kato]] (Japan normal voice), [[Helmut Gauß]] (German), [[Eduardo Borgerth]] (Brazil), [[Omar Soto]] (Latin American-Spanish Radio voice), [[Alfredo Gabriel Basurto]] (Latin American-Spanish normal voice)

[[Image:Movie2007 Bumblebee dealership.jpg|left|250px|thumb|The old old and the new old.]]
Bumblebee, having made his way to a second-rate car dealership, became [[Sam Witwicky]]'s first car. Sam's father promised his son a car if Sam paid half of the money and achieved three A's in school. After doing so with the help of his genealogy project, Sam rode with [[Ron Witwicky|his father]] to [[Bolivia's Finest Quality Used Cars and Petting Zoo|a car lot with an exceedingly long name]]. Following them to the lot, Bumblebee quietly placed himself among the other cars. To prevent Sam from having to choose another car, he used a high-frequency sound wave to blow out the windows of every other car in the lot, leaving [[Bobby Bolivia]] with no choice but to sell Bumblebee to the Witwickys.

The next day, Sam and his friend [[Miles Lancaster]] drove Bumblebee down to the lake in a misguided attempt to impress the popular girls at a party. Observing the exchange of thinly veiled insults between Sam and the football jocks, Bumblebee decided to help out Sam when the boy noticed [[Mikaela Banes]] walking home after a falling-out with her now ex-boyfriend. Playing "Drive" on his radio, Bumblebee inspired Sam to kick Miles out and drive Mikaela home. As the two awkwardly chatted, Bumblebee suddenly turned off his engine when they neared a romantic spot overlooking the city, this time playing "Sexual Healing" and "I Feel Good". Not knowing his car has a mind of its own, Sam misinterpreted this as a breakdown. Mikaela attempted to fix Bumblebee with her mechanical know-how, only to leave after Sam asked her why she tolerated jerks like her ex-boyfriend. Trying to help as much as he could, Bumblebee allowed Sam to start up his engine as she walked away, this time playing "Baby, Come Back". Arriving at Mikaela's house, Sam advanced a step towards her by stating that he didn't believe her to be shallow at all, that there was "more than meets the eye" with her. After she left, Sam quietly enthused that he loved his car.

[[Image:Movie2007 Bumblebee firstsighting.jpg|right|250px|thumb|One of the clearer shots in the film.]]
Later that night, Bumblebee drove off by himself with Sam in hot pursuit, believing it to be a car theft. Unwittingly leading his human owner to a junkyard, Bumblebee transformed and activated his communications beacon, requesting assistance from Optimus Prime and the other Autobots. Unknown to him, Sam had seen his robot form and run off, and was now being being pursued by the junkyard's two guard dogs. Bumblebee came to Sam's aid, scaring off the dogs, but had to escape when the police (whom Sam had previously summoned when Bumblebee drove away from his house) arrived to arrest Sam for breaking into the junkyard.

The next day, Bumblebee drove back to the Witwicky house sometime after Sam had been bailed out by his dad. Frightened and confused, Sam rode away from what he dubbed "[[Unicron|Satan]]'s Camaro", ending up in the city and encountering Mikaela in front of a Burger King. Bumblebee followed Sam towards an industrial area, not realizing that the Decepticon [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] was stalking the boy, intent on finding glasses belonging to [[Archibald Witwicky|Sam's ancestor]], which Sam had been auctioning on [[eBay]] Sam ran away from the attacking Decepticon and literally ran into Mikaela after she had followed him. As Barricade bore down on the pair, Bumblebee suddenly appeared, knocking the Decepticon off his feet, then drove the humans away as Barricade gave chase.

[[Image:Movie Bumblebee winner.jpg|left|250px|thumb|YOU BIG WINNER, HAHAHA.]]
Racing through dilapidated factories and warehouses, Bumblebee eventually arrived at a deserted chemical plant on the outskirts of town. There he waited until Barricade's back was turned before dumping Sam and Mikaela out of his passenger side door, then transforming into robot mode to protect his friends. Barricade transformed and attacked, hitting Bumblebee with his tire spikes and knocking the Autobot into a chemical tank. In retaliation, Bumblebee grabbed Barricade and threw him into an electrical substation, but Barricade rolled over and grabbed Bumblebee's head and began to pound him. Eventually, Bee was able to damaging the Decepticon and put him into stasis lock. After Sam and Mikaela took care of [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]], Bumblebee introduced himself to them entirely through the use of his radio, explaining that it was the only way he could communicate, that he was an alien, and that Sam had witnessed him calling to his friends the previous night. Transforming back into vehicle mode, Bumblebee invited his friends to enter (which they did after a brief hesitation) and began to drive them to nearby [[Griffith Observatory]].

[[Image:Movie Bumblebee Mikaela observatory.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Still think I'm a piece of crap, lady?]]
On the way, Mikaela (who had refused to sit in the driver's seat, as Bumblebee was driving), rhetorically asked Sam that if Bumblebee was a super-advanced robot, why did he turn into a piece-of-crap Camaro? Mildly insulted, Bumblebee stopped in the middle of a packed tunnel and forced the humans out, then drove away. As Sam lamented the fact that "four thousand dollars just drove away", Bumblebee passed another car and scanned it, driving back to the pair as a sleek and shiny 2009 Camaro. Amazed and impressed, Sam and Mikaela got back in, and Bumblebee continued their journey to the observatory. Arriving, the humans observed as the other Autobots entered the Earth's atmosphere and crash-landed in various parts of the city.

Bumblebee then took his friends to a secluded alleyway, where Sam and Mikaela met the other Autobots. Introducing themselves, Sam learned that Bumblebee was his guardian and that the Autobot's vocal processors had been damaged in battle. [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] was still working on them as he fired a regenerative plasma beam<ref name="Orci">[http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showthread.php?t=12054 Post-movie Q&A with screenwriters Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman]</ref> at the damaged area. [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] explained that their mission was to find the [[AllSpark]], and that Sam Witwicky was the key due to his grandfather discovering [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] on an Arctic voyage.

[[Image:Movie BumblebeeCC guardian.jpg|left|250px|thumb|I may be your guardian, but I will not carry you through a crowd to the music of Whitney Houston.]]
Arriving at the Witwicky residence, Bumblebee attempted to convince his comrades to remain out of sight while Sam was talking to his father. When Sam and Mikaela were captured by [[Sector Seven]], Bumblebee helped rescue them. The interrogation of [[Seymour Simmons|Agent Simmons]] went nowhere, however, and Bumblebee became so annoyed with his attitude that he released lubricant onto the agent. Soon, Sector Seven reinforcements arrived, intent on recapturing the kids and any "N.B.E.s" they could get their hands on. Optimus Prime tried to protect Sam and Mikaela as they hid under a bridge, but both almost fell to their deaths when they slipped. Bumblebee raced forward, transforming and catching them in mid-air. Unfortunately, this also gave Sector Seven a clear and obvious target for them to attack. Firing harpoon cables from helicopters, the clandestine human organization dragged Bumblebee to the ground, and its soldiers began to freeze the helpless Autobot, who reached out to Sam. The boy broke free from an agent's grip, pushing the soldiers aside until he was tackled by several agents and taken away. Though [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] objected to allowing Sector Seven to leave with their friend, Optimus Prime ordered his troops to stand down, as there was no way to save the prisoners without incurring human casualties.

[[Image:Movie2007 Bumblebee AllSpark.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Also available in pocket size.]]
Taken to [[Hoover Dam]], Bumblebee was continually doused with cryoblasts to keep him docile and inert as Sector Seven performed experiments on him. Sam and Mikaela (with some armed persuasion from [[William Lennox|Captain Lennox]]) convinced Sector Seven to release Bumblebee. Upon his release, Bumblebee converted to battle mode and almost lashed out at his human oppressors until Sam calmed him down, informing him of the presence of the AllSpark and Megatron in the facility, and that the Decepticons were coming for both. Following the humans to the AllSpark's chamber, Bumblebee hesitantly reached out to the life source of his people and reformatted it, shrinking the cube until it was a size that the humans could manipulate. Bumblebee and a military escort fled to [[Mission City]], meeting the Autobots en route.

Soon after they arrived at the city, [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] appeared. Recognizing the Decepticon, [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and Bumblebee lifted up an abandoned truck in order to shield the humans from any collateral damage Starscream's attack would inevitably bring. One of the Decepticon's missiles struck the truck, sending both Autobots flying, with Bumblebee landing in a store front. The attack tore off Bumblebee's legs and left him barely functional, as Sam discovered to his horror when Bumblebee crawled from the wreckage. Soon, the other Decepticons arrived, led by Megatron, and the remaining Autobots were engaged. Mikaela and Sam hoisted Bumblebee onto a abandoned tow truck, but refused to leave his side. The Autobot silently handed his friend the AllSpark, trusting the fate of his people into the boy's hands, and urged him to run while he still could. As Sam ran off, Mikaela drove Bumblebee away from the fighting to relative safety.

[[Image:Movie2007_Sam_Mikaela_makingoutonBumblebee.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Why? Just... why?]]

However, she was soon overcome with guilt for leaving Sam and the battle. With Bumblebee's assent, she turned the truck around and headed back in. As Mikaela drove down the street in reverse, Bumblebee activated his weapon systems, then fired his [[plasma cannon]] and missiles at [[Brawl (Movie)|Devastator]], who was pinning down Captain Lennox and the rest of the combined Ranger/Sector Seven soldiers. His contribution was the deciding factor, confusing Devastator enough for the soldiers to counterattack, and the Decepticon was destroyed at last when Bumblebee's final cannon blast pierced his spark. Bumblebee was rather pleased with himself, and Mikaela complimented his shooting.

After the destruction of Megatron and the AllSpark, Bumblebee (who had regained his voice)<ref name="Orci">[http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showthread.php?t=12054 Post-movie Q&A with screenwriters Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman]</ref> requested permission to remain with Sam, to which the young man agreed. After his legs were repaired, he allowed Sam and Mikaela to make out on top of him as the other Autobots watched. {{storylink|Transformers (2007)|Transformers}}

It was the best day ever. Well, maybe not for Jazz.
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===Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comics===
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In an alternate reality, it was the crappiest day ever because Sam failed and was killed, and Megatron went on to conquer much of the Earth. Bumblebee liked to believe that there was a universe out there in which Megatron lost.

[[Image:Titan MikaelaBumblebee.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Why is he apologizing, you ask? Look where his left hand is.]]

Bumblebee and Mikaela went on to become old comrades in guerrilla warfare, and in 2008 went on a mission to rescue Optimus Prime from a Decepticon bunker in Denver. Bumblebee, now with missile launchers in car mode and increased physical strength, took out the bunker guard, [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]], (nearly crushing Mikaela by accident—"My bad.") and found Prime...or what was left of him. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 1}} Now stuck in the base, Bumblebee was being hunted by [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 10|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 2}} and baited into revealing himself when the tyrant threatened to kill Mikaela. Bumblebee made a desperate attack, only to be beaten aside with ease. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 11|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 3}}

Despite his defeat, he remained defiant to the end and refused to beg for mercy. Luckily the Autobot reinforcements arrived; unluckily, they couldn't stop Megatron; luckily again, Mikaela had revived Optimus Prime to save them {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 12|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 4}} and arrived with Phase Two of their plan, a Sector Seven nanovirus that targeted AllSpark energy. Plugging it to himself, Bumblebee charged at the super-powered Megatron and forcibly uploaded the nano-virus, killing the tyrant once and for all. Not that he patted himself on the back over this, for he knew too well that this just left a [[Starscream (Movie)|power vacuum]]... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 13|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 5}}

Still partnered with Mikaela near the Savannah, Georgia refugee camp post-occupation, Bumblebee appeared frustrated with how the humans were frightened of him and, to be listened to, Mikaela had to do the talking for him. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 14}} They went back into battle again to end a [[NATO]] bombardment of the Autobots in Savannah, running a gauntlet of tanks and [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercrackers]] before freeing the NATO field commander from Decepticon mind control. During the course of the battle he roasted a drone with fiery exhaust. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 15|Aftermath Part 2}}

Following this battle, Bumblebee was involved in many clashes with Decepticons to protect human infrastructure, including leading a small group to protect an oil pipeline in Alaska. [[Armorhide (Movie)|Armorhide]] did not follow orders well. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 16|Dark Spark}}

[[Image:Bumblebeehandlesthis.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Yes, you ''did'' see this happen.]]

Following ''that'', he was sent with Arcee and Armorhide to Cybertron, under Ironhide's command. The mission was to retrieve [[Nucleon]]. Bumblebee was ordered to do recon and discovered a strange satellite dish, but investigating it saw the team jumped by [[Stockade (Movie)|Stockade]]. Then a strange energy anomaly appeared in orbit, and when Bumblebee asked what it was, Stockade babbled "BLBLBLBLBBL!". {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 17|Return to Cybertron: Part 1}} Bumblebee's subsequent attempt at dialogue (after first convincing Ironhide to stop throwing his face at Stockade's fists) was more successful, finding out the anomaly was a living entity the Decepticons had deliberately summoned, believing it would rejuvenate Cybertron.

Not trusting this entity and wanting to stop all the Nucleon being used up, Bumblebee organised the Autobots to create a distraction while he snuck around and turned the Nucleon transfer off. He also intended to send a message to Optimus, and considering [[Unicron|the entity was Unicron the Anti-Life]], it's a good thing he did. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 18|Return to Cybertron: Part 2}} In the resulting chaos, Bumblebee had [[Divebomb (Movie)|Divebomb]] barge past him, had to rescue Ironhide from rubble, and found out the guy wanted to stop Unicron by destroying the world. He wasn't having a good day. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 19|Return to Cybertron: Part 3}}

The day improved when Optimus arrived with a better plan: Cut off the Nucleon that Unicron's body was using for power. Bumblebee and Armorhide were dispatched to drain the Nucleon seam. This took too long, though, so Ratchet came up with a quicker alternative. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 20|Return to Cybertron: Part 4}}

[[Image:Titan MikaelaBumblebeereunion.jpg|left|200px|thumb|OTP!]]

Upon returning to Earth, the Autobots found the Decepticons had pinched their base and all 600 square miles around it. They retreated, leaving Mikaela in Decepticon hands; Bumblebee was distraught over this. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 21|Hard Target}} He would be part of the raid to get her back, knowing and ignoring that it was an obvious trap due to how much they owed Mikaela. The raid was successful and the two were reunited, awwww! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 22|The Decepticon Who Haunted Himself}}

It didn't last long, with the Decepticon-blackmailed American government ordering the Autobots out; Bumblebee got dispatched with Ironhide on a mission related to this. The next day, Bumblebee got one last hour with Mikaela (and to beat up [[Dropkick]] as an "up yours" gesture) before joining the Autobots in departing... ''and then they got nuked!'' {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|Revolution Part 1}}

Optimus had anticipated this though, and the Autobots faked their deaths with a decoy ship. Bumblebee, however, couldn't tell Mikaela this due to a decision to minimise any possible exposure. He was part of the spearhead team on return to Earth, intended to raise the Decepticon Heartland and teleport all the enemy there to the dead Cybertron. Mikaela was ''not'' happy to see him back, feeling they'd kept the plan from her because they didn't fully trust her to not be captured; Bumblebee tried to deny this.

In the final battle, Bumblebee 'tagged' Megatron and so is responsible for the tyrant being exiled forever—third time lucky!

In the aftermath, after it became clear the Autobots had just exiled ''themselves'' to Earth forever—"Hey, there are worse fates," said Bumblebee—Mikaela forgave Bumblebee. Both had a lot of clean-up work to do, but also a brave new world to explore together...! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 25|Revolution Part 3}}

===Real World===
At some point, Bumblebee let his guard down and the Decepticons took advantage by taking out an Autobot communications hub. He apologized for his lapse. {{storylink|Transformers: Rise of the Chevy Autobots}}

===Toy bios===
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Bumblebee and [[Hardtop (Movie)|Hardtop]], as two opposing elite spies, have crossed paths many times across the galaxy in a grueling test of endurance. Lately Hardtop has been taking this rivalry very personally, turning it into a vendetta. It was a crack shot by Hardtop that damaged Bumblebee's vocal processors, causing the Autobot pain when he tries to speak. {{storylink|Hardtop (Movie)#Transformers (2007)|Hardtop}}

During the [[Mission City]] battle, Bumblebee required assistance and had to be towed to safety by [[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]]. {{storylink|Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Deluxe Class toys|Towed to Safety}}

With the initial threat over, Bumblebee decided to kick back and relax. Transcanning a rally car, he began hanging around at race tracks, pitting himself against the human racers. {{storylink|Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Fast Action Battlers|Rally Rocket Bumblebee}}

He would later be sent on a mop-up duty, hunting [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] across the [[Middle East]]. {{storylink|Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Legend Class toys|Bumblebee vs. Scorponok}}

Eventually, with pictures of him all over the internet, Bumblebee found to his discomfort that ''everyone'' recognised him... including newly arriving Decepticons, which put Sam and others in danger! With Mikaela's help, Bumblebee recoloured himself to help restore his disguise and make it easier to sneak up on the enemy. {{storylink|Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Deluxe Class toys|Stealth Bumblebee}}

===IDW ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===
[[Image:Alliance2_Bumblebee_takecove-rrk.jpg|thumb|left|250px|"Why do they always aim for the throat!?"]]

Shortly after the battle in [[Mission City]], Bumblebee's injuries were tended to by Ratchet while Ironhide and Captain Lennox's men searched for the creatures inadvertently created by the AllSpark's energy. After his legs were attached, he rolled out with the Autobots to escape Sector Seven's inquiries. A month later, when asked by Lennox, Optimus Prime informed the human that Bumblebee had resumed his role as Sam Witwicky's protector. {{storylink|Alliance issue 1|Alliance #1}}

[[Image:Alliance3_Ironhide_Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|200px|"I see dead people, I mean it, look there's one right over there."]]

Bumblebee accompanied the other Autobots to escort the convoy transporting the dead Decepticons to a navy base in [[California|San Diego, California]], where they would be taken out to sea and dumped. Optimus Prime gave the surviving AllSpark sliver to [[Vine|Professor Vine]] of Sector Seven, but after deciding this was a bad idea later on, he sent Ironhide and Bumblebee back to the [[Nevada]] facility to retrieve it. Bumblebee raced ahead and arrived to inadvertently save [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]'s life by disarming the revived [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]]. A grateful Starscream shot Bumblebee as he was protecting the humans, {{storylink|Alliance issue 2|Alliance #2}} leaving his vocal processor damaged. Though Ironhide praised him for his bravery and selflessness, Bumblebee regretted not being able to save everybody. By the time the Navy and the Autobots were out at sea to bury Jazz and dump the Decepticon corpses, Ratchet had repaired Bumblebee's body (giving him a modified vehicle mode in the process), but was evidently unable to fully restore his vocal processor. In an effort to prevent mistakes of the past occurring again and to protect Earth, the Autobots and the United States Military formed a special unit under Major Lennox and Optimus Prime's command. When the Decepticon [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]] was detected in [[San Francisco]], Bumblebee and the others rolled out from [[Diego Garcia]]. {{storylink|Alliance issue 3|Alliance #3}}

After Optimus Prime destroyed a surprised [[Dead End (Movie)|Dead End]], Bumblebee chased Swindle onto the deserted Golden Gate Bridge. Though cornered, the Decepticon was amused that they had sent his old nemesis Bumblebee against him, and quickly set to clobbering the Autobot. Major [[William Lennox|Lennox]] distracted the Decepticon, allowing Bumblebee to pay Swindle back for his inept attempt to torture him thousands of years ago. On the plane trip back to Diego Garcia, Lennox and Optimus agreed that Sam Witwicky would become the target of the Decepticons again, and that he ''must'' be protected. Bumblebee was chosen to act as Sam's guardian again, and before he left, Prime pressed upon him that the protection of the boy was his first priority. {{storylink|Alliance issue 4|Alliance #4}}

Bumblebee's attempts to integrate himself into Sam's life were not as smooth as he had hoped. Without the team structure of the Autobots, Bumblebee tended to act upon instinct, taking revenge on Mikaela's ex-boyfriend [[Trent DeMarco]] for his previous humiliations of Sam by wrecking his truck, smashing a would-be car thief with the door he was attempting to unlock, and inadvertently giving Sam traffic tickets by not observing the rules of the road. When Bumblebee was alone, he attempted to learn as much as he could about human culture, feeling that he owed it to his friend. Soon, Sam came to the question of what Bumblebee would do when Sam went to college after the summer. 'Bee intended to follow Sam wherever he went, but Sam feared that he might not be able to bring his car along with him. Unfortunately, Sam's parents were less than thrilled with the idea of having an alien robot live with them while Sam was away, especially after what the Autobots had done to their beloved yard. [[Ron Witwicky|Sam's father]] decreed that while Bumblebee could stay for the rest of the summer, once Sam has gone to school, the Autobot was out the door. However, unexpectedly, Ron Witwicky came to Bumblebee seeking aid when Mikaela reported that Sam had never made a rendezvous with her. Speeding out of the garage without Ron (and without waiting for the garage door to open), Bumblebee searched for clues to Sam's whereabouts and eventually found a message from his old foe Barricade, who demanded the AllSpark in exchange for the boy. Finding the pair at an car wrecking yard, Bumblebee attacked Barricade, but was considerably outmatched, with the Decepticon gloating that Earth had made the Autobot soft, and their last encounter was down to pure luck. Eventually, with a distraction from Sam, Bumblebee was able to force Barricade into a pool of gasoline. With the Decepticon hardly down for the count, Bumblebee told Sam to run and ignited the gasoline, causing a tremendous explosion that sent both Transformers flying. In the aftermath, Bumblebee told Sam he had a feeling they hadn't seen the last of Barricade. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 1|Tales of the Fallen #1}}
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===''The Veiled Threat'' prequel novel===
{{Note|The events of ''The Veiled Threat'' take place during [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Transformers: Alliance|Alliance]]'' comic.}}

Bumblebee does not appear in the novel, but NEST personnel mention that he is guarding Sam Witwicky.

{{storylink|The Veiled Threat}}

===Titan Magazines ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===

[[Image:Titan2_BumblebeePOV.jpg|left|thumb|200px|[[Robo-Vision]]!]]

His voice gone again, Bumblebee communicated by playing snippets of Earth songs.

Bumblebee was driven by the Witwickys to [[Princeton University|Sam's college]], where he quietly endured their bickering while scanning everything around him for potential threats. When he picked up radio transmissions from two new Autobots, he drove off into battle, and saved [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] from being slaughtered by [[Ransack (ROTF)|the Decepticon Ransack]]. But with the villain threatening a long game, Bumblebee knew that here came trouble... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Dogfight!}}

Speaking of trouble, poor Bumblebee ended up as the twins' minder. You can guess how well ''that'' went... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|Learning Curve}}

[[Image:Titan2-6_aimedatyourheart.jpg|right|thumb|There's only room for ''one'' kid-appeal character...]]

Some time later, Bumblebee was hanging out in Sam's garage when he received an emergency call from [[Diego Garcia]]: the twins, now dangerous Decepticon turncoats, had abducted Sam! He tore out of the garage, tracked down the twins, and demanded they stop immediately. When they didn't, he launched suppressive fire and began ramming Skids, yelling ''"let my people go-go!"''. He soon had Sam free and the twins at gunpoint, ready to eliminate if necessary. However, partway into Mudflap's claims that they'd been framed and there was a bigger threat coming, [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] got the drop on Bumblebee and gunned him down... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.6|Outlaw Blues}}

Clearly he got better, because he was around for...
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===''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Mark Ryan]] (dialogue cut from final movie), [[Omar Soto]], [[Enrique Cervantes]] and [[Arturo Acosta]] (Latin American-Spanish radio voice)

[[Image:ROTF Bumblebee overkill.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Hey, you're lucky. Back on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], I had to blow up ''whole [[Polities of Cybertron|city-states]]'' to achieve objectives.]]
Bumblebee was dozing in the Witwicky garage the day Sam was packing for [[Princeton University]] when he heard the boy scream out his name. Bumblebee drove through, transformed and started blasting away at [[AllSpark Mutation]]s of the Witwicky kitchen appliances. [[Judy Witwicky]] was horrified that Bumblebee blew up much of their house, but he shrugged her off and went back into the garage. As firefighters and local police arrived, Sam and [[Mikaela Banes]] went inside the garage. Mikaela asked whether Bumblebee was still having voice problems, to which Sam replied the Autobot was just playing it up. Sam revealed he did not want Bumblebee to come to college as he wanted a normal life, and he couldn't do that with Bumblebee watching over him. Bumblebee was heartbroken and began crying, refusing to listen anymore.

[[Image:ROTF Sam Bumblebee cry.jpg|thumb|right|250px|[[Humanization]] included.]]
However, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] was having difficulties with [[NEST]] director [[Theodore Galloway]], who believed protecting the human race required drawing away the Decepticons from Earth by making the Autobots leave. Optimus believed Sam would be a worthy ambassador to convince the [[President of the United States]] otherwise. Bumblebee picked up Sam from a frat party, only to get an unwanted passenger in [[Alice]]. Bumblebee knew something wasn't right about the girl interested in Sam, smashing her head against his dashboard, and dousing her in liquid to get rid of her. Bumblebee dropped Sam off to meet Optimus at a graveyard, where the boy turned down Optimus' offer.

[[Image:ROTF Bumblebee vs Starscream.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Bring it, bee-yotches!]]
When [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] returned from the dead, Bumblebee was deployed to rescue Sam, Mikaela and [[Leo Spitz]], driving away with the latter two while Optimus drove off with Sam. Optimus died protecting the boy, and Bumblebee took him with [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] to an abandoned prison where they would be safe. Following Optimus' death, [[The Fallen]] and a new army of Decepticons struck out across Earth and announced their existence, promising to leave if they were given Witwicky. Galloway shut down NEST and had the other Autobots placed under guard with orders to ship them back to [[Diego Garcia]], while a manhunt began for Sam. Bumblebee was now protecting a fugitive.

[[Image:ROTF Bumblebee soar.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Team Autobot's blasting off again!]]
That evening, Sam told Bumblebee he was responsible for Optimus's death, and would understand if Bumblebee hated him, but the little Autobot bore Sam no grudge, and promised that he would help in any way he could. When Sam announced that he would turn himself in, Bumblebee insisted that it would not help matters. Under Leo's suggestion, the group came to [[New York City]] to meet his internet rival, the Robo-Warrior. As it turned out, the Robo-Warrior was none other than Bumblebee's former lubrication post, [[Seymour Simmons]], who elaborated on evidence of the [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seekers]] that came to Earth before Megatron and the AllSpark. Bumblebee watched from the sideline as the humans and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] awoke [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]], who transported them to [[Egypt]], which unfortunately sent Bumblebee crash landing near Sam. Jetfire explained the origins of the [[Seven Primes]] and the treasons of [[The Fallen]], mentioning the [[Matrix of Leadership]], which Sam believed could be used to resurrect Optimus Prime.

[[Image:ROTF Bumblebee twin bash.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Respect my authoritah!]]
Bumblebee continued his role as chauffeur, transporting the humans to [[Petra]], the supposed location of the [[Tomb of the Primes]]. However, Petra appeared to be a dead end, and the Twins got into an argument of why they were following Sam around, which, knowing the Twins, got violent. As their brawl threatened to crush the humans in the close quarters, Bumblebee picked his two subordinates up in each hand, slammed them together, and threw them out of the temple. However, the Twins' brawl had managed to unearth the Tomb of the Primes, and Bumblebee further opened the hole with his plasma cannon, where they found the Matrix...which instantly turned to dust. Oops.

[[Image:ROTF movie BumblebeevsRampage.jpg|thumb|200px|Move your body Rampage! Yeah, like that, gymnastics are really easy when you have two legs. Oh wait...]]

While heading back to Egypt, the Autobots came under [[Operation: Firestorm|assault]] by Starscream, and it was decided that Sam and Mikaela would take the Matrix dust to Prime's body while Bumblebee, Simmons, Leo, and the Twins would lead Starscream and the Decepticons away. When it became apparent that Starscream was no longer pursuing them, Bumblebee left to rejoin Sam. Heading to the abandoned town where Sam and Mikaela were, Bumblebee found that [[Ron Witwicky|Ron]] and [[Judy Witwicky]] had been captured by the Decepticons, and were being held by [[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]]. Noticing Bumblebee, Sam distracted the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]] long enough for Bumblebee to jump him. While Bumblebee had Rampage on the ropes, [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] jumped Bumblebee, but the plucky Autobot managed to fight off Ravage and ''rip out his spine''. Ouch. With Ravage dispatched, Bumblebee managed to tear off Rampage's arms and distend his head. Bumblebee then tried to escort his charges to NEST's position, but the heavy amount of fire convinced Sam to have Bumblebee to take his parents to safety, while he continued his quest to save Optimus.

However, during Sam's flight to Optimus's body, Megatron caught up and blasted the boy, evidently killing him. Bumblebee returned to the scene with Sam's parents, and broke down in grief. However, the human miraculously survived the attack, and with the reformed Matrix of Leadership, resurrected Optimus Prime. Together, the assembled Autobots and humans watched as Optimus combined with the remains of Jetfire, destroyed the harvester and killed The Fallen. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}
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===Toy bios===
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After the discovery of new Decepticons on Earth, Bumblebee decided to upgrade his arsenal and modified his vehicle mode so he could use weaponry in it, deciding he'd been caught off guard too many times before. {{storylink|Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Deluxe Class toys 2|Cannon Bumblebee}}

Following this, he volunteered to be Sam's guardian, It was a pretty swank deal: he got to hang with Sam and Mikaela all the time, got lots of [[oil]], and could join Ironhide in killing Decepticons whenever he wanted. {{storylink|Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Deluxe Class toys 2|Bumblebee}} But when the battle shifted to the deserts, he threw himself into the fray, upgrading himself for desert combat and wielding the mighty ''sand blast''! {{storylink|Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Fast Action Battlers 2|Sand Attack Bumblebee}}

===Titan Magazines post-''Fallen'' comics===
Post-Fallen, he was sent back into the field. His first new mission was to capture [[Reverb (ROTF)|Reverb]]. When Jolt messed the mission up, Bumblebee saved the day by ''ramming'' the bike head-on. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.9|Culture Shock}}

[[Image:Titan10_Eppsandbee.jpg|left|thumb|210px|]]

Later, with Lennox and his crew searching for [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seekers]], Bumblebee was left with only [[Robert Epps]] to investigate an attack on Malmstrom Air Force Base and the disappearance of Optimus Prime. Epps worked out that Optimus had been victim of an electromagnetic bomb, and Bumblebee tracked his leader to where he was being held. (Poor Epps had to ride in Bumblebee jumping a ravine, and almost spewed up his breakfast) After locating Prime, they found he was a captive of the [[Free Men]] militia. At Epps command, Bumblebee hit the Free Men compound with his full firepower, swiftly defeating the militia. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.10| Bring Me the Head of Optimus Prime}}

He dispatched three raw cadets (Jolt, [[Rollbar (ROTF)|Rollbar]], and [[Dune Runner (ROTF)|Dune Runner]]) to [[Death Valley]] for a survival exercise. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.11|Spare Parts!}} Later, he was summoned as back-up by NEST [[South Africa]] due to a Decepticon jailbreak, but Optimus ordered him to let the Decepticons leave to prevent civilian casualties. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.13|Inside Out!}}

[[Image:Titan18_Bumblethumbsup.jpg|right|thumb|120px|It's true!]]

With the Autobot's reputation in the toilet because of the South Africa failure, and with concerns that public fights risked alienating humans, Bumblebee was tasked to head a covert unit with [[Slap Dash]] and [[Hubcap (TF 2010)|Hubcap]]. They'd operate under NEST's radar, monitoring Decepticons and waiting for windows of opportunity out of the public eye, before hitting hard and fast. In practice, this meant allowing Decepticons like[[Crankstart]], [[Brimstone (TF 2010)|Brimstone]], and [[Trenchmouth]] to run amok in cities, with Bumblebee restraining his desire to stop them and keeping his men from taking action. After an uncomfortable period of hoping nobody would be killed, the Decepticons went to an isolated stretch of road: now free to act, Bumblebee led his men in a vicious ambush and personally drove ''through'' Crankshaft. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.18|Shadow War}}

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===Cyber Missions===
[[Image:CyberMissions9_Bumblebee.JPG|300px|thumb|right|BUUU!]]
:''Voice actors:'' [[Tom Anderson]], [[David Kledzik]], [[Tony Gialluca II]], [[Bronco D. Jackson]] (English), [[José Antonio Macías]] (Latin American-Spanish)

Bumblebee and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] were reviewing some [[data tracks]] that Optimus Prime had made for preservation in [[Vector Sigma]] when they detected an explosion outside their base. Bumblebee remained to lock down the most important data tracks while Ironhide went to investigate [[Bludgeon (ROTF)|the cause]] of the explosion. However, that is what the Decepticons wanted, as moments later, [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] burst into the base, overwhelming Bumblebee with a sonic attack, and mocking Bumblebee for being the smallest Autobot. Bumblebee countered that he wasn't as small as Soundwave thought, but in the battle that followed, Soundwave was able to physically overpower Bumblebee. Bumblebee fired a shot from his shoulder cannon, but Soundwave absorbed the sonic boom and sent the acoustic energy back at him. Bumblebee decided to use a more ingenious method: fire automatic weaponry at Soundwave, giving too many sonic booms for Soundwave to absorb, defeating the Decepticon. Bumblebee then tried to inform Ironhide of what had happened, but he had unfinished business with Bludgeon.{{storylink|Cyber Missions 1}} Following this, Bumblebee placed Soundwave in an electromagnetically sealed bubble, leaving him unable to absorb any sonic booms to escape. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 2}}

After Ironhide went missing in the jungle, Bumblebee reported the problem to Optimus, who was luckily in the area. Prime asked him to conduct a scan of the area in which Ironhide went missing, and Bumblebee discovered that the rocks in the area had an unusually high concentration of [[energon (fuel)|energon]] deposits. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 5}} Bumblebee took part in a training exercise with Ironhide in the Arctic when his comrade decided that the smaller 'bot was too often a target for the Decepticons. During their sparring, they discovered what appeared to be a sentient plant growing in the snow. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 8}}

Bumblebee and [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] were dispatched to a building in [[Scramble City (city)|Scramble City]] by Optimus, who briefed them that [[Smolder]] and [[Chopster]] were causing trouble. On reaching the building, they encountered Chopster, who screamed and ran away when Bumblebee looked menacing. Bumblebee called after him to bring his friend out, replying to a bemused Ratchet that not every encounter had to be a battle. The pair were almost run down a short time later by Smolder, and Bumblebee was forced to grapple at length with the Decepticon while Ratchet worked on repowering his EMP blaster. Afterward, the two Autobots stood over the disabled Decepticon and cracked jokes. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 9}}

Optimus reported finding Megatron and Starscream in the Arctic regions of Earth, and Bumblebee was summoned to aid his leader in battle with Ironhide, Ratchet and Sideswipe. Starscream broke off from the two on one duel, and attacked all the Autobots at once, only to be defeated in due time. However, Optimus let Megatron go, and Starscream apparently followed suit. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 12}}

Optimus later laid a trap to lure the Decepticons to a final confrontation with a hologram of Soundwave, and Megatron indeed walked right into it. Bumblebee, Ironhide, and Ratchet arrived to join the battle, and in the ensuing fight, Bumblebee took on Mindwipe. The Decepticon tried to hypnotize Bumblebee into not fighting, but he nonchalantly ingnored him, and continued fighting. An army of humans arrived and surrounded the combatants, and the day went to the Autobots. Optimus ''once again'' let Megatron and the Decepticons go at their choice. After Megatron fled, Bumblebee decided to give the Decepticons a reminder of who protected this planet, and stamped out an Autobot symbol in the dirt. {{storylink|Decepticons Attack}}

===''Classified'' novels===
Bumblebee was at [[Edwards Air Force Base]] with Ratchet when they received word that two Cybertronians in transition forms had landed near [[Hurley's Crossing]]. The pair went there by helicopter and encountered [[Reverb (ROTF)|Reverb]], who claimed to be a Decepticon defector hunting down another Decepticon who was after the technology at [[Hawthorne Army Depot]]. Though Bumblebee was highly skeptical, he followed Ratchet's lead, and they took Reverb to the depot. When they reached it, [[Kevin Bowman]] let them know that [[Gears (ROTF)|Gears]] was an Autobot and in reality trying to protect an ancient weapons cache. The warning came too late, as Reverb turned the weapons on Bumblebee and Ratchet, who were unable to penetrate the personal forcefield Reverb had acquired. Despite this, Bumblebee lasted out Reverb's defeat with minimal damage. {{storylink|Transformers Classified: Switching Gears|Switching Gears}}

===IDW Post ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===
[[Image:After fight with Soundwave Nefarious 1.jpg|thumb|left|200px]]
Bumblebee was in charge of a team made up of [[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]], [[Knock Out (ROTF)|Knock Out]], [[Dune Runner (ROTF)|Dune Runner]] and [[Breakaway (ROTF)|Breakaway]]. When [[NEST]]'s satellite images detected Decepticon activity in [[Florida]], Bumblebee's team was sent to investigate. Though Bumblebee instructed Breakaway not to engage the enemy, Breakaway attacked [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] and was destroyed. Bumblebee and the rest of his team engaged the Decepticons at [[Kingdom Petrochemicals]], but after a group of humans left and the Decepticons fled, Bumblebee was left mystified as to what was going on. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 1|Nefarious #1}} He and his team returned to [[Edwards Air Force Base]], where Galloway was annoyed that he hadn't been notified about the arrival on Earth of some of the members of Bumblebee's team. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 2|Nefarious #2}}

After Optimus managed to capture Soundwave in [[Utah]], Bumblebee's team guarded the Decepticon. They loaded him onto a plane for transport to a NEST base in [[Texas]], however en route the plane was shot down by [[Buzzsaw (ROTF)|Buzzsaw]]. Resolving to deliver Soundwave, Bumblebee took his team on the road. It wasn't long before they ran into Soundwave's "mini-militia". Bumblebee quickly realized that his team was outmatched. Rather than a repeat of the loss of Breakaway, Bumblebee opted to release Soundwave. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 3|Nefarious #3}}

Soundwave eventually located the [[Initiative base]] and led the Autobots to [[Inyokern]]... only to find the base was gone. He traced it to [[Crater Lake]], and the Autobots went on a road trip up to [[Oregon]]. Bumblebee's team was sent to assault the base from the north, however as he broke through the base's outer wall, he was confronted by an [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Initiative-controlled Transformer]]. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 5|Nefarious #5}} Bumblebee was taken down, and his team required reinforcements to break through the resistance to help him. Presumably his damage wasn't [[spark]]-threatening, as he was seen safe and well in the aftermath of the battle. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 6|Nefarious #6}}
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===Transformers Annual 2011===
Bumblebee charged to Sam's defense when Starscream tried to abduct the boy, but proved no match for the Decepticon, and was flung around the yard. As Starscream started making off with Sam, Bumblebee made another attempt to stop him, and was brushed aside. Luckily Optimus arrived to help, and Starscream soon fled, but the Witwicky's yard was in ruins. {{storylink|Sam in Danger}}

===IDW ''Dark of the Moon'' movie comics===
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[[Brains]] was in a parking lot in [[Philadelphia]], trying to find some help, so he tried asking a car for help. When no response came, Brains kicked the car, angrily, but was shocked when it transformed into Bumblebee. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 1|Rising Storm #1}} Sam and Bumblebee brought Brains back to his college. Suddenly, the college was under attack from Starscream and other Decepticons. [[Sonar (ROTF)|Sonar]] attempted to attack Bumblebee, but was promptly killed by the newly arrived [[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]] and [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Wheeljack]]. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 2|Rising Storm #2}} [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] reappeared and placed Bumblebee in a headlock, who retaliated by punching Barricade in the jaw when the Decepticon attempted to attack Sam. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 3|Rising Storm #3}} Bumblebee slammed Barricade into a sidewalk, defeating him. Afterwards, Bumblebee bade goodbye to Sam and [[Carly Spencer]] as NEST decided they required him on the field rather than to guard Sam. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 4|Rising Storm #4}}
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===''Dark of the Moon'' film===
:''Voice actor''; [[Omar Soto]], [[Ferso Velázquez]] and [[Alfredo Gabriel Basurto]] (Latin American-Spanish radio voice)

[[Image:DOTFfilm-BumblebeeStealthForce.jpg|left|thumb|400x|''Stealth'' Force? Right...]]
Three years after Operation Firestorm, Bumblebee continued to live with Sam and [[Carly Spencer]] in [[Washington, D.C.]], although he would frequently go on top secret NEST missions with the rest of the Autobots, mostly to prevent human conflict. He was among a force consisting of himself, [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]], [[Mirage (Movie)|Dino]] and [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Que]] which was to investigate an illegal nuclear facility, employing his [[Stealth Force]] mode to destroy it. Meanwhile a mission to the [[Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant]] revealed an engine part to a Cybertronian fuel cell belonging to the long lost ''[[Ark (DOTM)|Ark]]''. Upon returning to the [[NEST]] base, Bumblebee assisted in teaching soldiers how to fight Decpticons, and watched as National Intelligence Director [[Charlotte Mearing]] informed them that the ''Ark'' was on the moon.

[[Image:DOTM-Ironhidecautions.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Yeah, good thing [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Que's]] gone.]]
After Sam's encounter with [[Laserbeak (DOTM)|Laserbeak]], he went looking for Bumblebee with the information given to him by [[Jerry Wang]], about a conspiracy of humans collaborating with the Decepticons. However the guards outside weren't willing to let him in, and after hearing Sam calling for help on a radio Bumblebee went to warn the guards off. Sam told Bumblebee that he wasn't happy that Bumblebee wasn't visiting him very often now, and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] accused him of thinking he was too good for them. Bumblebee witnessed the reactivation of [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]], and then went home with Sam, who's offer of help was denied by Mearing. However Sam wasn't ready to let go of the situation, and Bumblebee helped in trying to figure out why Decepticons were killing humans, and took the time to allow [[Bruce Brazos]] to get up close and personal.

[[Image:Dotm-sam&bumblebee-ahhh!-1-.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Here comes another Flight of the Bumblebee joke...]]
After Sam, [[Seymour Simmons|Simmons]] and [[Dutch (DOTM)|Dutch]] learned that the Decepticons had tricked the Autobots into retrieving and reviving Sentinel so that they could use him to work the [[Space Bridge]] pillars, Bumblebee, Sideswipe and Dino escorted the humans and Sentinel back to the NEST base. Along the way they were attacked by the [[Dread (subgroup)|Dreads]], and Bumblebee and Sideswipe used their Stealth Force modes to shoot at [[Hatchet]] while Dino held him in place. But when [[Crankcase (DOTM)|Crankcase]] knocked a truck into his path, Bumblebee had to transform over the crash, tossing Sam out and then returning to vehicle mode after grabbing Sam. But upon arriving back at NEST, Sentinel revealed he had made a deal with [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] to restore Cybertron, and Bumblebee was unable to prevent [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] from being killed and the base from being destroyed as Sentinel retrieved his pillars.

After Sentinel transported a Decepticon army from the moon to Earth, he forced the humans to exile the Autobots on their ship, the ''[[Xantium (DOTM)|Xantium]]''. Bumblebee was allowed by Optimus a short time to say goodbye to Sam, and assured him he was always going to be his friend, before helping the others prepare the ship for launch. However shortly after lift-off, the ''Xantium'' was destroyed by [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], and Bumblebee and the rest of the Autobots were presumed dead.

[[Image:Dotm_Starscream_BOOM.jpg|right|thumb|250px|If someone asks, I killed Starscream, not you Sam.]]
However, they had hidden in a rocket booster that was jettisoned before the Xantium's destruction, and arrived in the Decepticon-occupied [[Chicago]] in time to help Sam, [[Robert Epps|Epps]] and a team of soldiers in finding the kidnapped Carly. Bumblebee piloted one of the downed Decepticon fighters to get Sam into the building [[Dylan Gould]] had Carly, and used it to rescue the pair and blasted off Laserbeak's head. He rejoined his fellow Autobots in attacking the Decepticon forces, and arrived in time to save Sam and [[William Lennox|Lennox]] from falling to their deaths after Sam managed to kill Starscream.

[[Image:830px-Dotm-helluvarun-1-.jpg|left|thumb|250px|He's right behind me, isn't he?]]
However after rejoining the others, Bumblebee, Sideswipe, Dino, Ratchet and Que were rounded up and captured by [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] and his troops. Dylan convinced Soundwave not to take prisoners, and [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and another Decepticon killed Que, and Bumblebee was upset over the loss of his friend. He had barely a moment to mourn as he was pulled forward and about to be killed by Soundwave himself. He then caught sight of Sam and Carly sadly watching the scene and gave a heartfelt last look at his friend as he prepared for the end, noting they "had a hell of a run". It was then that Wheelie and [[Brains]] caused chaos by dropping Decepticon fighters from a Decepticon warship above, distracting Soundwave. Taking advantage, Bumblebee took Soundwave on, and following a tumultuous battle, killed the Decepticon by throwing an uppercut through his chest and firing his arm cannon upwards, disintegrating his head.

[[Image:830px-Dotm-fought bravely-1-.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Looking at Ratchet strangely: "''Er, why are you touching me like that?''"]]
Following this, Bumblebee battled his way to the [[Pillar|Control Pillar]] with his fellow Autobots, and helped Optimus in fighting Sentinel. With Ratchet's help, he tackled and destroyed the pillar, stopping Cybertron from appearing in Earth's orbit. After the defeat of the Decepticons and Sentinel Prime, Bumblebee took out some rings inside him as he gave them to Sam, so Sam could propose to Carly, though Sam told him that he needed to slow it down. Ratchet commended Bumblebee for his bravery during the battle, and accepted Earth as his new home with Cybertron now destroyed. {{storylink|Dark of the Moon (film)}}
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==Games==
==="Flight of the Bumblebee" online game===
At some point in time Bumblebee was trapped in a canyon with several Decepticons, among them Brawl, Barricade, Wreckage, and Scorponok. He valiantly fought through them all to make it to the other side. He did it without even bending a fender. If he succeeded, his victory earned him a place in Autobot history! If he failed however, the Decepticons would gather to celebrate his defeat! {{storylink|Flight of the Bumblebee|Flight of the Bumblebee}}

===Transformers: Rise of the Chevy Autobots===
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{{storylink|Transformers: Rise of the Chevy Autobots}}

===''Sector Seven'' game===
[[Image:Beagle rover destroyer.jpg|left|thumb|Not a Decepticon....[[Movie Prequel issue 3|really......]]]]
In 2003, Bumblebee arrived in [[Mars]] where he destroyed the [[Beagle 2 Rover]], To control leaks of the footage beamed back to Earth from the Rover, Sector Seven enacts "Hungry Dragon 2", this time choosing the especially visible medium of a live-action feature film and ancillary media.

Events reach a flashpoint on April 23, when Bumblebee touches down on Earth, arriving in response to Howard's signal. {{storylink|Sector Seven (game)}}

===''Transformers'' (Glu)===

When Optimus Prime was separated from the rest of the Autobots, Bumblebee contacted a human ally through their cell phone. By remotely altering the device with Cybertronian technology, Bumblebee enabled his ally to assist the damaged Prime in battling the Decepticons. {{storylink|Transformers (Glu)}}

===''Transformers: The Game''===
(No voice actor, considering the fact that his voice box got blown before the events of the game)

[[Image:TransformersTheGame wallpaper BumblebeeVsBarricade.jpg|left|300px|thumb|"All this artillery on your body and you go for a 'punch'?!?"]]

Bumblebee landed in Tranquility while being briefed by Optimus Prime on his mission to find clues on the AllSpark. While on Earth, he took the form of a beat-up 1976 Chevrolet Camaro in possibly a dump or a demolitions bay. Some Decepticon drones were also in Tranquility at a nearby construction site, so Bumblebee confronted and destroyed the drones before any civilian casualties could ensue.<ref>Even though in the game, you actually can't step on or run over civilians.</ref> Prime detected a Cybertronian code matching that on an artifact owned by a boy named Sam Witwicky, who was reported to be buying a car at Bobby Bolivia's. Unfortunately, some more drones heard of Prime's report, so Bumblebee had to get involved in a high-speed car chase and defeat the drones.

With Sam buying the Camaro-ed Bumblebee, the first phase of finding the AllSpark was complete. The next day, Prime warned Bumblebee that the Decepticon named Barricade was also on Earth and threatening to take Sam and his new female friend, Mikaela. So the Autobot had to incapacitate the arm-spinning, spike-punching, tantrum-throwing Decepticon while the humans escaped. Now that Bumblebee knew of the Decepticons' growing involvement in finding the AllSpark's location, he obviously needed help. The only problem now with the Autobots' landing was their radar systems. The Decepticons had hacked radio towers throughout Tranquility to mess up any aircraft radar. Naturally, Bumblebee went to the scene and destroyed the towers. With the Autobots having landed, it was time to find the AllSpark.

Optimus Prime explained to Sam and Mikaela about the AllSpark, the importance of the glasses, and Humanity's fate. Before moving on the matter at hand, Mikaela questioned Bumblebee's alt-mode being such a beater. The mildly insulted Autobot then copied a more current version of the Camaro (2009 Concept). Later, a government group called Sector Seven went after the Autobots with their helicopters and cars. After Jazz's successful distraction, Sector Seven then switched their sights to Bumblebee, who got captured, but then got away with the efforts of Prime.

Sector Seven sent Bumblebee to Hoover Dam. The Autobot immediately saw the AllSpark and a frozen Megatron. After a mysterious blackout, Bumblebee got free and started to shut down the power faster by ripping out the mainframe, blowing up the cooling fans, and removing nuclear canisters from their generators. The AllSpark was his, but he had to wait for it to shrink while fending off Sector Seven troops, a lot of Energon drones, and a defrosting Megatron. (Oy!) Eventually, Sam and Mikaela got to the dam and fled with Bumblebee to Mission City before Megatron could get his huge, pointy clutches near the cube.

The Autobots' first priority was then keeping the cube from Megatron. Unfortunately for Bumblebee, he crashed into a building due to interference from energon drones generated by the cube's radiation. Ironhide came in and helped. While the rest of the Autobots fought the Decepticons, Bumblebee had one final showdown with Barricade. After a lot of punches, blasts, and car chases, Barricade finally went down for good. Megatron then went to the scene and incapacitated the wounded Autobot with one shot from his fusion cannon. Bumblebee urged the two humans to take the cube to Optimus for he could not go on any longer.

After the battle was won by the Autobots, Bumblebee struck a pose with the other remaining four as they listened in on Prime's final speech. {{storylink|Transformers The Game (console)|Transformers The Game (console)}}

===''Transformers: Autobots''===
Bumblebee arrived in Tranquility to meet up with [[Create-A-Bot (Autobot)|Create-A-Bot]], and after a short discussion created from radio sound clips, instructed Create-a-Bot to scan a number of vehicles, the last of which was a Decepticon. After a short battle, Bumblebee then used Create-a-Bot's mad h4x0r skills to break into the internet and find the location of [[Archibald Witwicky]]'s glasses, which turned out to be conveniently in Tranquility. Going to retrieve them, Bumblebee arrived at the Witwicky house to find [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]], who then blew up a car and ran, blaming the explosion on the yellow car now chasing him down the highway. Meeting on a bridge, they fought. Once Bumblebee won, Barricade once again ran.

Later, Bumblebee received a mission to destroy several [[Sector Seven]] turrets designed to shoot down the reported [[Non-Biological Extraterrestrial|N.B.E.s]] seen around the city. Afterward, he served as a distraction, driving to various markers to fight off the police while the other Autobots did their thing. Once that task was completed, he got captured by S7 forces and taken to Hoover Dam, where he had to be rescued by the others. Once free of his restraints, he searched the base for the AllSpark, finding it in the deepest part of the dam. Upon being discovered, the AllSpark turned the site's computers into mechanical scorpions...to defend itself. From the good guys. After retrieving the AllSpark, Bumblebee had to escape in under 30 seconds to avoid getting locked in. After a quick getaway with Create-a-Bot providing cover fire, they met with Optimus. Following another quick gun-and-cover mission, a drone and Barricade were waiting for a two-on-two battle, in which Prime had to keep both Bumblebee and himself alive.

Finally, Bumblebee's last mission once again took place in Tranquility. AllSpark in hand, he had to run to meet up with the Autobots, avoiding as many Decepticons as possible, within a time limit. Blackout was gunning for him the entire time, and lots of Decepticons were in the way. Once there, Create-a-Bot needed to keep Bumblebee from being [[Blastification|blasted]] into [[Slag (slang)|slag]] as they raced to meet up with Optimus. {{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Autobots}}

===''Transformers: Decepticons''===
After sending troops to slow down Barricade and the Decepticon [[Create-A-Bot (Decepticon)|Create-A-Bot]], Bumblebee showed up in person to take care of business himself, serving as little more than a distraction. After running away, Bumblebee later acquired the AllSpark, transporting it across Tranquility while [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] gave chase. Stopping in the suburbs, Starscream pounded Bumblebee's face to custard and pried the AllSpark from his cold, non-functioning fingers. {{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Decepticons}}
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===AllSpark Wars===

After the first battle with the Decepticons on Earth, Bumblebee and the other Autobots went into stasis lock, held in storage around the world. {{storylink|AllSpark Wars}}

===Allspark Highway===

The Autobots needed to race the Allspark to safety, and Bumblebee teamed with his fellow Autobots to drive through the Decepticon defenses and get their prize to a secure location. {{storylink|Allspark Highway}}

===Autobot Stronghold===

The Decepticons were invading an Autobot stronghold in the city, and Bumblebee and the Autobots placed themselves at key positions to defend it from attack. {{storylink|Autobot Stronghold}}

===Transformers: Battle for the Matrix===
{{Note|Battle for the Matrix is a simplified retelling of the events of [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]. It can be played from the perspective of either Bumblebee or Optimus Prime.}}
[[Image:Bumblebee battleforthematrix.jpg|thumb|left|200px]]
{{storylink|Transformers: Battle for the Matrix}}
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===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Mark Ryan]] (English)
====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====
=====Autobot campaign=====
[[Image:ROTF_360PS3PC_BumblebeeVsCombaticonWarrior.jpg|thumb|250px|Bumblebee decided to learn from a [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|different Prime]].]]

Bumblebee was the Autobots' high speed recon soldier. In combat mode, he possessed a [[plasma cannon|solar plasma cannon]] firing rapid energy bursts, which could shift into a missile launcher that fired six missiles at a time. In melee combat, he could deploy an [[axe]] from his left hand. Finally, he possessed the ability to emit a localized [[electromagnetic pulse]]wave, which would temporarily stun enemy Decepticons.

Since he hadn't seen combat in some time, Bumblebee was sent through some retraining under Ironhide. Despite being fully combat certified, Bumblebee was not deployed during the [[Shanghai]] mission. When the Decepticons learned of the AllSpark shard Sam had left with Mikaela, Bumblebee was sent to rescue the girl and protect her from the drones dispatched to capture the shard. After a vicious fight, Mikaela was air lifted to safety.

After Megatron was reborn and kidnapped Sam, Bumblebee was sent to an industrial sector near his college to rescue the boy. He fought through twenty eight Decepticons while [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] hacked their processors to learn Sam's location. Once he found Sam at [[Broadwater Metal Works|an abandoned foundry]], Bumblebee raced Sam to the extraction point. However, the Decepticons sent reinforcements under [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]]. Bumblebee was able to fight off the Decepticons and defeat Grindor, saving Sam. However, it was learned that some knowledge from the AllSpark had been absorbed into the boy when he killed Megatron. Sam was forced to go seek out [[Seymour Simmons]] to learn what was going on. Bumblebee protected the boy while talked at the deli Simmons' mother owned. Sam than told Bumblebee that he needed to get to the museum nearby to speak with [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]], an ancient Decepticon defector. Bumblebee fought off the Decepticons sent to destroy the museum long enough for Jetfire to open a [[space bridge]] and take him and Sam to [[Egypt]].

Once there, Jetfire explained what was going on: thousands of years ago, the [[Dynasty of Primes]] came to Earth to build a [[star harvester]] to convert Earth's sun into Energon. When they discovered the humans, twelve of the [[Thirteen|original Primes]] upheld the sanctity of life, but one Prime, forever known as [[The Fallen]], betrayed and slaughtered his brothers. The machine was hidden from the Fallen, who went on to become the master of the Decepticons. The machine was hidden within the [[Great Pyramid of Giza]], and [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] was sent to destroy it and expose the harvester. On the way, he decided to terrorize the city of [[Cairo]]. Faced with the largest Decepticon ever seen, the Autobots decided that Bumblebee, the smallest of the Autobots, would be a good choice to help [[NEST]] counter Devastator's rampage. Surprisingly enough, it worked: Bumblebee was able to whittle down Devastator's cannons and missile launchers before finally defeating the beast.

=====Decepticon campaign=====
[[Image:ROTF_360PS3PC_BumblebeeVsCombaticonScout.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Little bot in little China]]

When [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] arrives on the outskirts of Cairo, he engages Autobots in combat. [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] and Bumblebee challenge him, but are defeated.

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===Transformers Battle Universe===

At the edge of time, the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] was seeking a new host and summoned warriors from throughout the multiverse to battle for possession of it. Bumblebee, Optimus and Megatron arrived from the Tyran cluster. {{storylink|Transformers Battle Universe}}

===Transformers RPMs: Devastator's Demise===
[[Image:Devastator's Demise Vortex Grinder.jpg|200px|left|thumb]]
Bumblebee's light weight makes him fast but easy to shake. Amazing for stunts though!

In order to defeat [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]], Bumblebee, Optimus and Ironhide must drive through Cairo and avoid obstacles.{{storylink|Transformers RPMs: Devastator's Demise}}
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===Hunt for the Decepticons===

Optimus Prime coordinated Bumblebee and a [[You|human ally]] in a hunt for Decepticons still at large on Earth. Their missions lead to the capture of [[Axor]], [[Terradive (TF 2010)|Terradive]] and Starscream before Bumblebee's human friend is welcomed into the Autobots. {{storylink|Hunt for the Decepticons}}
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===Revenge of the Fallen (mobile game)===
[[Image:ROTFMobile Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|right|110px]]
With the Decepticons attacking [[NEST]] HQ and [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] tied up in [[Shanghai]], Bumblebee was sent to deal with the threat. He managed to make it to the central core before [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and seal it off to prevent the Decepticon getting in. He also almost managed to defeat Starscream, but at the last moment Starscream used his [[Null-ray|null ray]], disabling Bumblebee. 'Bee overheard Starscream talking about the [[Matrix of Leadership]], and warned Optimus. When Optimus went missing in Egypt, Bumblebee went there himself and was told to rendezvous with [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] near the [[Great Pyramid of Giza|Great Pyramid]]. By the time Bumblebee reached the pyramid, Jetfire had been knocked out by [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]], who had taken possession of the Matrix. Bumblebee fought long and hard against the [[Combiner]], finally defeating him and retrieving the Matrix, only for [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] to turn up and take Bumblebee prisoner. When Optimus came to the rescue, Bumblebee passed on the message that Jetfire had given him, that Optimus should use Jetfire's part to gain the power to defeat Megatron. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (Glu)}}

===''Transformers: Dark of the Moon - The Game''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Fred Tatasciore]]

====(Xbox 360/PS3)====
Three years after the defeat of [[The Fallen]], humanity believed the Decepticons had fled Earth. However, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] knew better and was constantly searching for [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] and his forces. Bumblebee was sent to South America to upload a virus into [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave's]] network system so that the Autobots could track down all remaining Decepticons on Earth. Later on, he joined [[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]] on his mission to locate [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]] in the Mayan ruins. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Xbox 360/PS3)|Dark of the Moon (Xbox 360/PS3)}}

====Autobots/Decepticons====
[[Image:DOTMDS Bumblebee.jpg|left|200px|thumb]]
When a number of unexplained attacks occurred downtown, Optimus sent Bumblebee to investigate in case it was the Decepticons and, indeed, it was. Bumblebee bashed most of them. At another point, Bumblebee was patrolling near a volcano when [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] warned him that [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] and [[Crowbar]] were in the area. Bumblebee found Crowbar, but when he was chasing the [[Dread (DOTM)|Dread]], he ran into [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] who had stolen some Mechtech equipment. Bumblebee pursued him, but Starscream eventually got away. After the Autobots infiltrated Ratchet sent Bumblebee to scout the area, warning him that [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] might be around. Luckily he didn't run into Megatron, with the Decepticon leader being defeated by Ironhide. He, Ironhide, Ratchet and Optimus gathered in the aftermath of the mission to reflect on their victory, unaware that Megatron had succeeded in reviving [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]]... {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Autobots/Decepticons|Dark of the Moon: Autobots/Decepticons}}
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===''Transformers: The Ride''===
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{{storylink|Transformers: The Ride}}

==Toys==
{{main|Bumblebee (Movie)/toys}}

==Merchandise==
{{main|Bumblebee (Movie)/merchandise}}

==''Second Life''==
In the online virtual world simulation/game ''Second Life'', there was a full replica of the Sector Seven base which contained a giant discussion room where Michael Bay held a question board. This room contained a giant frozen Megatron replica and free avatars of both Bumblebee and Barricade. Both freebies were non-transforming. Also, the Bumblebee avatar had his battle mask down and it could not be raised.

==Notes==
===Classic Camaro===
* According to an article on [http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=121138?imw=Y#12 Edmunds.com], the film makers wanted Bumblebee's original Earth form to be the 1976 iteration of the Camaro because it was the worst Camaro possible that also had chrome bumpers.

* The same article indicates that the 1976 Camaros used in the film were all purchased via online auction for under $6000 each, one for less than $2000. That one didn't run.

* One of the 1976 Camaros was sold on eBay. The bidding ended on July 18, 2007; the final price was $40,100.01.

===Modern Camaro===
* The 2008 Concept Camaro used for Bumblebee in the first movie was built by Saleen in 30 days, using a heavily modified 2006 Pontiac GTO body as the basis. The '08 Camaro was not in production at the time that the first film was being made, hence an identical mock-up was needed to fill the role.<ref>[http://www.saleen.com/transformers.htm Saleen article about the construction of the Barricade and Bumblebee vehicles]</ref>

* In ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'', Bumblebee scans a working, driveable new generation Camaro — conveniently with the same paint job as his classic Camaro disguise at that time — that wouldn't be released until some time in the year 2009. However, it is possible that the Camaro in question was being road-tested by GM engineers, like they were doing in the real world.

* Although unexplained in the films, Bumblebee's vehicle mode changes appearance subtly between ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'' and ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]''. This is probably because of product placement: Bumblebee's old [[alternate mode]] was an unavailable concept Camaro, while in ''Revenge'' he uses what seems to be the new Z/28 Camaro... whose mass production has since been canceled. Oops.

* He changes models again between ''Revenge of the Fallen'' and ''[[Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''. Changes include the addition of a rear spoiler, the black racing stripes now being further apart while at the same time losing the outer pinstripes, and the racing stripes now also covering the roof.

===Robot mode and CG model(s)===
[[Image:MovieBumblebeeStinger.jpg|right|200px|thumb|He uses it once, then dies.]]

* The Bumblebee computer-generated model consisted of 7608 individual parts, 1,511,727 polygons, 19,722 rig nodes, and 8094 texture maps. The volume of all the pieces came to 1069.01 cubic feet.<ref>Robertson, Barbara (2007). Heavy Metal. ''Computer Graphics, 30''(7), 12-17.</ref>

* Bumblebee's character animation is based on the performance of [[wikipedia:Michael_J._Fox|Michael J. Fox]] in the ''[[wikipedia:Back_to_the_Future|Back to the Future]]'' movies.<ref>From ''Cinefex'' magazine, issue number 111, published October 2007.</ref>

[[Image:ROTFBumblebeeAltColorsConcept.jpg|thumb|250px|But will we ever '''get''' an orange Bumblebee? No, we'll just keep getting slightly different yellow ones.]]

* Bumblebee is equipped with a pair of arm-mounted electrical "[[Stinger (weapon)|stingers]]."<ref>Bumblebee's [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Battle Bio] at Hasbro.com</ref> While designed, the stingers were ultimately not featured in the movies, though they may have influenced [[Bumblebee (Animated)|other media]].

* Speaking of weapons, for someone whose main job is being subtle, Bumblebee is quite well armed, with a cannon powerful enough to rattle [[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]] and a ring-shaped light missile launcher in each shoulder. He is also a capable close-combat fighter, as seen in his fights against [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and [[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]].

* Despite this, he has a [[Fireblast]] rating of ''three''.

*According to designer [[Paul Ozzimo]] on his website, at one point there were plans to make Bumblebee into a Z/28 convertible for ''Revenge of the Fallen'', and the possibility of changing his color to orange or black with yellow was also discussed. While none of these alterations happened, concept art for both appeared on the "25 Years of Transformers" feature on the ''Revenge'' DVD... though the black version is only seen from behind.

* Bumblebee stands approximately 16 feet tall, according to the [[Transformers The Game|official game]] strategy guide.

* In 2011, Bumblebee appeared in a Super Bowl XLV-related commercial, parodying car dealers by tossing a squirrel mascot knocking his hood to literally hammer the point of low prices. The TV spot also revealed ILM's modifications to his design for ''Dark of the Moon'', namely more pronounced shoulders and ribs ala his [[Bumblebee (Prime)|''Prime'' counterpart]].<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RttT4jC7_10&feature=player_embedded Chevrolet Super Bowl spot]</ref>

* Despite his Camaro alternate mode used for ''Dark of the Moon'' no longer sporting the outer pinstripes bordering his black racing stripes, the CG robot model still has them. Whoops.

===License plates===
Bumblebee sported several different [[license plate]]s between the movies, the video games and the toys:

*'''489 PCE''', registered in [[California]], was the 1976 Camaro's license plate in the first movie, which was kept consistent between the car prop and the CG model for the robot mode. The license plate was later auctioned off in 2008.<ref name="plate1">[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/movie-bumblebees-license-plate-for-sale/12255/ Movie Bumblebee (1976 Camaro edition) license plate for sale], Seibertron.com, January 2008.</ref>

*'''900 STRA''', without a state-specific registration, was the new license plate for the Concept Camaro car prop, which was kept for the production models used for both subsequent movies. It was also used when the modern Camaro prop cars from the movies were on display at car shows and other events. Finally achieving consistency between both modes, Bumblebee also sported this plate in robot mode in ''[[Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''. Furthermore, Hasbro started to use this license plate number with the Leader Class Bumblebee and Deluxe Class Nitro Bumblebee toys from the [[Dark of the Moon (toyline)|''Dark of the Moon'' toy line]] (both sporting ''sculpted'' license plate inscriptions in both modes), and the [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]] [[Dark of the Moon (video games)|''Dark of the Moon'' video game]] also uses it for the vehicle mode. The license plate used in ''Revenge of the Fallen'' was auctioned off in October 2009.<ref name="2009auct">[http://www.icollector.com/Hero-Bumblebee-license-plate-from-Transformers-Revenge-of-the-Fallen_i8633011 ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Bumblebee license plate auction], icollector.com</ref>

*'''4NZZ454''', registered in California, is probably the most well-known license plate number due to being used on the CG model for the robot mode in the 2007 movie and ''Revenge of the Fallen''.<ref name="proctercg">[http://www.benprocter.com/storage/oldersites/sitev2/html/PROJPAGE_Trans_06.html official Hasbro promo shots of the finalized CG model for Bumblebee] on Ben Procter's portfolio</ref> This number number was also used for a lot of Hasbro's toys from the first two movies' toy lines (in robot mode and often also in vehicle mode), including the Deluxe Class Classic Camaro.

*'''4NZZZ454''', with a red line indicative of a California registration, was an erroneous version of the above number with an extra "Z", used on some of Hasbro's toys, namely the Deluxe Class Concept Camaro Bumblebee toy from the [[Movie (toyline)|first movie's toy line]] (including several [[redeco]]s and [[retool]]s) and ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Human Alliance]] Bumblebee.

*'''5LKZ213''' can be spotted on some photos of the life-sized robot prop from the Hoover Dam set from the first movie.<ref name="procterprop">[http://www.benprocter.com/storage/oldersites/sitev2/html/ZOOM_Trans/ZOOM_24.htmlLife-sized Bumblebee prop] on Ben Procter's portfolio</ref><ref name="unicubb">[http://www.unicron.us/tf2007/toypix/ultimate_bumblebee.html Review of Ultimate Bumblebee] at Unicron.com, including a set photo of the life-sized Bumblebee prop used for the movies.</ref>

*'''BUMBLBE''', registered in California, was used for the life-sized robot prop on various exhibits in 2007.<ref name="premiere">[http://www.flickr.com/photos/bob_karol/archives/date-taken/2007/06/27/ Transformers Movie premiere in Westwood Village, California], Flickr photostream of Candid Photos</ref><ref name="18foot">[http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/pictures-18-foot-bumblebee-transformer-invades-la "18 Foot Bumblebee Transformers invade LA"] at Techeblog</ref>

*'''FXPERTS''' (registered in California), a reference to the special effects company that built the life-sized robot prop<ref name="fxperts">[http://www.fxpertsinc.com/trans.html Building the life-sized Bumblebee prop] at Fxperts</ref>, was used on various exhibits in 2008.<ref name="dolby">[http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/ces-2008-giant-bumblebee-transformer-invades-the-dolby-booth "CES 2008: Giant BumbleBee Transformer Invades the Dolby Booth"] at Techeblog</ref><ref name="holloman08">[http://www.flickr.com/photos/61043118@N00/archives/date-taken/2008/09/22/ Transformers on display at Holloman Air Force Base in September 2008], Flickr photostream of snakebite000]</ref>

*'''KDM 0814''', registered in California, was used for the life-sized robot prop on various exhibits from 2009 to at least 2011.<ref name="sydney">[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/movie-bumblebee-prop-appears-in-sydney-australia/17305/ Life-sized Bumblebee prop in Sydney, Australia] at Seibertron.com</ref><ref name="vegas">[http://www.flickr.com/photos/deltamike/archives/date-taken/2009/03/30/ Transformers on display at the Las Vegas Strip], Flickr photostream of Mike Renlund</ref><ref name="childmuseum">[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=77515 "Bumblebee coming to the Children's Museum of Indianapolis"] at The Allspark, March 2011</ref> A variant of this, "KDM 814" minus the "0", had been previously used as the license plate of [[The Twins]]' combined ice cream truck mode in ''Revenge of the Fallen''.

*'''5BBM2''' (registered in California), mirrored on the other side, is used by Activision for the robot models used in the ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' and ''[[Dark of the Moon (video games)|Dark of the Moon]]'' video games. Due to its mirrored nature, this plate wouldn't actually be legal.<ref name="nextgen">[http://www.nextgn.com/2009/05/15/transformers-2-playable-characters-and-soundtrack-revealed/ ''Revenge of the Fallen'' video game models] at Next Gen News</ref><ref name="actidotm">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-the-game-hands-on-171673/ Activision trailer and promo stills for Dark of the Moon video game] at TFW2005.</ref>

===Lack of voice===
* For [[Transformers (2007)|the first movie]], [[Paramount Pictures|Paramount]] had originally preferred the Transformers not to talk ''at all'' throughout the movie, a notion Hasbro heavily contested.<ref name="tfwtour">[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/139273-botcon-2007-botcon-2007-hasbro-tour-updated-friday-12-45pm.html BotCon 2007 Hasbro tour report.]</ref> Bumblebee still ended up being mute throughout most of the movie, which, according to Orci and Kurtzman, was inspired by [[Steven Spielberg|Steven Spielberg's]] ''[[Wikipedia:E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial|E.T.]]'' and is supposed to signify that his friendship with Sam transcends words.<ref name="mtv">[http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1554426/20070312/story.jhtml MTV.com interview with Kurtzman and Orci.]</ref>

* According to the [[Movie Prequel issue 1|prequel comic]] by IDW Publishing, Megatron ripped out and crushed Bumblebee's voice capacitor during the battle at [[Tyger Pax]] back on Cybertron. [[Hardtop (Movie)|Hardtop]]'s toy bio claims the damage came from a shot fired by Hardtop. In the film itself, Ratchet only states to Sam that Bumblebee's "vocal processors were damaged in battle" and he was "still working on them" after firing a single plasma beam at Bumblebee's throat; by the end of all the conflict (the climax of the film proper), Bumblebee has regained his ability to speak. Although it was not confirmed on-screen, screenwriter [[Roberto Orci]] did confirm ''off''-screen<ref name="Orci"/> that Ratchet's (regenerative) beam was indeed the reason. It could be that the doc didn't have enough time/resources, what with all the war and inter-stellar space travel, to fully perfect the healing plasma early enough. And even if he did, 'Bee took off for the Cube after only a marginal amount of repairs were performed on him after his encounter with Megatron, so a vial of even faster-acting plasma could be sitting in Ratchet's lab back on ol' Cybertron, if the 'Cons didn't trash it of course.

* Just as well, Roberto Orci ''also'' admitted that Bumblebee's brief contact with the AllSpark would be an equally valid (and an even more "in-continuity") explanation.<ref name="Orci"/>

* When asked, Orci admitted there had been plans to have Bumblebee speak in ''Revenge of the Fallen''; however, ultimately they liked his "musical ability" too much, and [[Michael Bay]] wanted to focus more on [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]], since he thought kids would like the two characters.<ref name="orci">[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-283.html#post3785383 Q&A with Roberto Orci at TFW2005]</ref>

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Bumblebee''' (バンブルビー ''Banburubī'')
*''Cantonese:'' '''Daai Wong Fung''' (大黃蜂, "Bumblebee")
*''Hungarian:'' '''Űrdongó''' ("Space Bumblebee")
*''Mandarin:'' '''Dà Huáng-fēng''' (大黃蜂, "Bumblebee")
*''Spanish:'' '''Abejorro''' ("Bumblebee")
*''Ukrainian:'' '''Bdzhilka''' (Бджілка, "Bee")

==References==
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==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/2007/Autobot/Bumblebee/bumblebee.htm Bumblebee at TFU.info]
* [http://www.seibertron.com/toys/index.php?f_series=40&f_name=bumblebee&f_type=exact&Submit=Search Galleries of various different Bumblebee toys from the Movie]

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Equal Measures

2012-01-03T09:43:52Z

24.58.224.22: /* Animation and technical errors */ Not actually an error, as clarified in Scorponok (BW)'s article

{{episode
|series=BWtoon
|ep=4
|image=Equal Measures Cheetor darksyde.jpg
|caption=Later they discovered Cheetor was sitting on the self-destruct button.
|title="Equal Measures"
|production company=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]
|airdate=[[September 23]], 1996
|written by=[[Greg Johnson]]
|directed by=[[T.W. Peacocke]]
|animation studio=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]
|continuity=[[Beast Wars continuity]]
|packaged with=[[Cheetor (BW)/toys#Beast Wars 10th Anniversary|Cheetor]], [[Megatron (BW)/toys#Beast Wars Telemocha Series|Megatron]]
}}

'''Dinobot manipulates both Maximals and Predacons around a teleporter that Cheetor has unintentionally developed between both bases.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Optimus Primal]] watches a bolt of lightning shatter a mountain, revealing a cache of [[energon]]. Because of the hazardous conditions, he radios to his team to abort their current operation. The storm garbles the transmission, though, preventing the other [[Maximal]]s from receiving it.

[[Image:Dinobotbulliescheetor.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Something we've seen all too often.]]
The mission involves energon monitoring devices designed by [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]], who has just gotten done building the last of them. Impatient to get going, [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] carelessly plays with one of [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]]'s projects, a ''time bomb'', and accidentally drops it out the floor hatch... where it's caught by a returning Optimus, who reiterates his order for the mission to be scrubbed. Everyone's clearly upset over the development, not believing the storm to be that severe yet, but Primal is adamant; it'll have to wait until later. Dejected, everyone returns to quarters to wait out the storm.

In Cheetor's quarters, Dinobot meets with the cat-bot and endorses the mission being continued regardless of the danger from the weather and the energon. He points out that Primal clearly treats Cheetor like a child, even though with his speed, the cat-bot could easily outrun the storm and plant the devices before it hits. This appeal to vanity works, and Cheetor sneaks out to complete the mission.

[[Image:Equal Measures Cheetor monitoring device.jpg|right|200px|thumb|This wireless Broadband box is rubbish!]]
In the field, Cheetor plants survey apparatuses in quick succession, but a bolt of lightning causes the cat accidentally to plant one of the posts dangerously close to an energon vein. He tries to remove the device and correct his mistake, but in the middle of his struggle, a second lightning bolt hits, and he finds himself suddenly teleported — onto a control panel in the [[Darksyde|Predacon base]]!

[[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] "welcomes" Cheetor and attacks the Maximal, but Cheetor grabs a hover-platform and tries to escape. After being knocked off the platform, Cheetor lunges at Terrorsaur and pushes the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] onto the control panel he'd just arrived on, causing Terrorsaur to vanish. [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] and [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] arrive and chase Cheetor around the Predacon base, but lose him in the ventilation shafts.

[[Image:Cheetorsurprised.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Shouldn't have had the vindaloo last night.]]
Meanwhile, Terrorsaur finds himself in the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'' command center, where he's given a warm reception by Dinobot. However, the former Predacon is more concerned over how the pteranodon arrived, eventually working out that a freak combination of the survey devices, the storm, and the energon created a transporter link between the two bases. Using this to his advantage, Terrorsaur seems to convince Dinobot into forming an alliance, suggesting they scrap the Maximals, then take over the Predacons and rule together... until Dinobot drops the charade and unceremoniously flushes the Pred out of the ''Axalon'' through a waste disposal unit.

Back at the Predacon base, Cheetor continues to flee while avoiding fire from Waspinator. He sneaks away from the two long enough to hack the Predacons' data files, and determines that both bases sit on a common underground Energon vein, so an explosion at one base would cause a chain reaction that would obliterate both ships. Cheetor is discovered as soon as he downloads this data to a disk.

At the Maximal base, Optimus confronts Dinobot on Cheetor's whereabouts. Dinobot tells him about the link and how the cat-bot has "surely" been destroyed by now, but convinces him that they could use the link to annihilate the Predacon base with the bomb, a plan Primal only agrees to as long as the bomb's timer is set with enough time to allow the Preds to evacuate. Just as the bomb is sent, though, Cheetor tosses the disk with the energon vein data onto the console, transporting both items simultaneously.

[[Image:Crispyterrorsaur.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Would you like me original, or extra crispy?]]
The Predacons finally corner Cheetor, but the bomb has magnetically locked itself onto the Pred console, forcing Megatron to let him go so he can release it. With a few seconds left, Cheetor throws it up to Terrorsaur, who flies it out of the base (and is blown up with it), while Cheetor escapes through the link. The Predacons' errant shots destroy the console instead. Furthermore, his return trip to the ''Axalon'' shatters all of the survey posts he's planted, ensuring the link is severed for good.

Afterwards, Rhinox and [[Rattrap]] congratulate Cheetor's prevention of the Maximal base from being destroyed by their own explosive, while Dinobot is in a bad mood as usual and leaves—though Cheetor apparently didn't tell anyone that Dinobot talked him into the whole thing. Primal still commands Cheetor to take more care to obey direct orders. Cheetor says he will—except when he doesn't—and scampers off, leaving Optimus steamed up with Rhinox and Rattrap to have a jolly laugh. But Optimus figures out Cheetor was funny, and gets in the jolly laugh with Rhinox and Rattrap.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Maximal]]s
|c1=
*[[Optimus Primal]] (1)
*[[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] (2)
*[[Rattrap]] (3)
*[[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] (4)
*[[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] (5)

|h2=[[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]]s
|c2=
*[[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] (6)
*[[Waspinator]] (7)
*[[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] (8)
*[[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] (9)
}}

==Quotes==
"Defeating them does not mean we have to ''annihilate'' them. You seem to have trouble understanding that."
:—'''Optimus''' gently chides Dinobot for thinking like a Predacon.

"Shoulda known no Maximal'd be stupid enough to try anything on a day like this."
:—'''Terrorsaur''' underestimates the enemy again.

"Cheetor! Maximi— did that already."
:—'''Cheetor''' forgets that he already transformed.

"He's gone into the vents! You better report this to Megatron." 
"Me?! ''You're'' second-in-command!" 
"So make it an order!"
:—'''Scorponok''' and '''Waspinator''' establish the chain of command.

"Where'd he go?! Where'd ''I'' go?"
:—'''Terrorsaur''' realises he isn't in [[Kansas]] any more.

"Think of the cosmic magnificence. Together we'll overthrow these low-grade metal knock-offs you've joined, and then rule the Predacons with two iron fists! NOTHING CAN STOP US!"
:—'''Terrorsaur''' has such naive optimism.

"Hey! What are you doing? We're partners!" 
"In case you had not realized, Needlenose... I am ''not'' a team player."
:—'''Terrorsaur''', about to get launched over the horizon by '''Dinobot'''

"OK, OK, I'll never do that again! Until the next time."
:—'''Cheetor''' has learned nothing from this adventure.

==Notes==
* Dinobot is kind of a jerk this early on.
* And Cheetor needs obedience beat into him.
* And Rattrap just needs the snot beat ''out'' of him.
* This is the first episode where we get to hear Terrorsaur speak (Besides "Terrorsaur, terrorize!" that is).
* And natural Earth weather is ''extremely'' destructive. 2 bolts of lightning cause a mountain to implode.
* This episode marks the finalization of most of the Maximals' voices; Cheetor loses most of his whine, Rhinox gains a more expressive range, and Dinobot sounds a fair bit deeper.

===Animation and technical errors===
* The collapsing mountain at the beginning of the episode seems to be sucked into the Energon cache after being hit with lightning.
* When Optimus is tossing the time bomb in one hand, it really doesn't move convincingly.
* After Cheetor escapes from the vents, he falls to the ground and his right forehead chevron kind of "twangs" forward. In the next scene he's in, it's back to normal against his head.

===Continuity errors===
* A major plot point is that due to an energon vein running beneath both ships, the destruction of either Predacon or Maximal bases would destroy the other. This is never mentioned again and frequently contradicted due to the repeated explosions at both. While most of the planet's energon was stabilized by the start of Season 2 (and thus wouldn't be an issue), the plot of Season 1 episode "[[Victory (episode)|Victory]]" revolves around... a massive explosion at the Predacon base. Arguably, either side could have harvested some of the energon by then to sever the connection between the bases, but details like that were never really confirmed!

===Transformers references===
* When Cheetor appears before him, Terrorsaur greets him thus: "Welcome to the dark side!" The episode script reveals that this was simply Terrorsaur being dramatic. However, because [[fandom|Transformers fans]] can be ''incredibly'' literal, some fans speculatively latched on to the idea that Terrorsaur was welcoming Cheetor to the "''Dark Side''", supposedly giving the Predacon ship/base a proper name.
*This bit of [[fanon]] was made official by the video game ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals (N64)|Beast Wars Transmetals]]''. Years later, the ship's name was further codified by the [[BotCon 2006]] story "[[Dawn of Future's Past]]", which dodged [[trademark]] issues by giving it the intentional misspelling "[[Darksyde]]".
* This is what happens when fans are allowed to run things. Seriously.
* Curiously, at no point has anybody interpreted Dinobot's line as suggesting the Maximal base is meant to be called "Enemy Arms".
* Just before he drops him through the waste disposal unit, Dinobot insults Terrorsaur's beaky (and geeky) beast mode by calling him [[Needlenose]], who was a G1 Decepticon Double-Targetmaster.

===Foreign localization===
'''French'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Dos à Dos'''" ("Back to Back")

:*''Title:'' "'''Dos à Dos'''" (Canada, "Back to Back")

'''Italian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Pari opportunità per i Biocombat'''" ("Equal Opportunities for the Biocombats")

'''Japanese'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Jigen Bakudan Tensō Sakusen!'''" (時限爆弾転送作戦!, "Operation: Time Bomb Transfer!")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[October 22|22 October]] [[1997]]

'''Portuguese'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Medidas Iguais'''" ("Equal Measures")

'''Spanish'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Medidas Equitativas'''" (America, "Equal Measures")

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;VHS
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1997 — ''Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers'' — Cheetus' Crisis ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only. 
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2001 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — The Beginning: Vol. 1 ([[Universal]]) 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2002 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Volume 2 ([[Rhino Entertainment|Rhinomation]])
;Laserdisc
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1998 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Maximal Edition ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — English and Japanese audio.
;DVD
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2000 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — DVD Box (Pioneer LDC) — English and Japanese audio. 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2002 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Volume 1 ([[Rhino Entertainment|Rhinomation]]) 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — The Complete First Season (Rhinomation) 
[[Image:Flag of Canada.png|20px|Canada]] 2005 — ''Beast Wars'' — Classic Episodes — Where the Beasties Began! ([[Alliance Atlantis]]) — English and French audio. 
[[Image:Flag of Canada.png|20px|Canada]] 2005 — ''Beast Wars'' — The Complete First Season (Alliance Atlantis) — English and French audio. 
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2006 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Season 1 ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers: Beast Wars'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment)

[[Category:Beast Wars episodes]]
[[Category:Beast Wars 10th Anniversary]]
[[category:Beast Wars Telemocha Series]]
[[Category:Pack-in material]]

Victor Caroli

2012-01-01T09:08:32Z

24.58.224.22: Link, format.

[[Image:Mark_Vanagas_and_Victor_Caroli.jpg|thumb|300px|right|"Watson, what happened to your voice? It sounds sinister!!!"]]

'''Victor Caroli''' is an American voice actor. In addition to his work on ''Transformers'' he was also the narrator for the TV series ''[[Xobitor|Robotix]]'', narrator of ''[[wikipedia:Thundercats|ThunderCats]]'' toy commercials and the quasi-satanic centaur villain "Tirac" in the ''[[My Little Pony]]'' pilot. Recently, he has been the narrator for select Hot Wheels commercials. He can also currently be heard as the narrator on the show ''Extreme Forensics'' on the Investigation Discovery channel and he also works on the Naples Players. Oh, and he's also a photographer on his spare time.

==Roles==
===Generation 1===
*[[Narrator]], [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]]
**[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]
**[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2]]
**[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]
**[[Transport to Oblivion]]
**[[Roll for It]]
**[[The Ultimate Doom, Part 1]]
**[[The Ultimate Doom, Part 2]]
**[[The Ultimate Doom, Part 3]]
**[[Countdown to Extinction (episode)|Countdown to Extinction]]
**[[Autobot Spike]]
**[[Atlantis, Arise!]]
**[[Day of the Machines]]
**[[Dinobot Island, Part 2]]
**[[Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2]]
**[[Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2]]
**[[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2]]
**[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1]]
**[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 2]]
**[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4]]
**[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5]]
*Narrator, cartoon [[Commercial bumper|commercial bumpers]]
*Narrator, numerous toy [[Commercial|commercials]]
*Narrator, [[The Transformers: The Movie promo|''The Transformers: The Movie'' promotional trailer]]
*Narrator, ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' (UK version)
*Narrator, ''[[Secret Files of Teletraan II|The Secret Files of Teletraan II]]''

===Generation 2===
*Narrator, numerous [[toy]] commercials

===Beast Wars===
*Narrator, early toy [[Commercial|commercials]]

==External links==
*[http://victorcaroli.com/ Victor Caroli's official website]
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0139027/ Victor Caroli at IMDB]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Caroli, Victor}}
[[Category:English voice actors]]

Jetfire (Armada)

2011-12-31T07:24:20Z

24.58.224.22: /* Notes */ Heh. I wonder if this should be in that article too...

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{{picsneeded|fictional appearances}}

:''Jetfire is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]]. He sometimes masquerades as a [[Decepticon]] using the name '''Sky Shadow'''.''

[[Image:Jetfireut.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"I'm as dry as a dead Dingo's donger!"]]
'''Jetfire''' is probably the best [[second-in-command]] [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] could conceivably have. Jetfire is more than a yes-man; he's the crucial link between Prime's role-necessitated distance and his troops. Though professional and businesslike, Jetfire infuses his interactions with a down-to-earth friendliness. And where Optimus Prime is cautious, Jetfire is more prone to tempered bursts of gusto and bravado. While Optimus Prime is your leader who's your leader, Jetfire is your leader who's your friend. Because of this, Jetfire is very popular among the Autobots.

Most importantly, Jetfire is one of the only Autobots who will tell Optimus Prime to his face when he thinks he's wrong. It is this trait that makes Jetfire indispensable.

Jetfire has a long-lost brother [[Overcast (Energon)|Overcast]], and while the two are quite similar in many ways, Jetfire is ''far'' more willing and eager to jump into battle than Overcast.

He has a Decepticon alter-ego, '''Sky Shadow''', which he affects when doing undercover missions. He found the name in history archives which referred to a [[Sky Shadow (Cybertron)|Sky Shadow]] from the legendary [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]]. Nobody's really sure how that works. Maybe it's that bloody [[Unicron Singularity]]'s doing.

{{bigquote|Let me tell you my personal motto: VICTORY IS MINE!|Jetfire}}

==Fiction==
{{charstubfiction}}

===Toy pack-in comics===
When the [[Air Defense Mini-Con Team (Armada)|Air Defense Mini-Con Team]] investigated a distress signal against [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]'s orders and fell into a trap set up by [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]], Jetfire joined Optimus Prime in rushing to their rescue. The two combined and kicked Galvatron to the sky after a short battle. Shortly after, Jetfire reprimanded the Mini-Cons for not listening to Optimus Prime. {{Storylink|Armada Volume 3}}

===Cartoon continuity===
====''Armada'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Scott McNeil]] (English), [[Susumu Chiba]] (Japanese)

Before Optimus Prime and his squad left for [[Earth]] in response to the [[Mini-Con]] signal, he left Jetfire in command of the remaining Autobot forces on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].

Much later, Optimus Prime requested Jetfire's assistance as the battle for the Mini-Cons reached a dangerous point with the discovery of the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber sword]] and the [[Skyboom Shield]]. As Jetfire made his way to Earth, he was followed by the Megatron loyalist [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]], who had similarly been requested by the Decepticon strategist [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]]. {{storylink|Chase (episode)|Chase}}

Thrust's arrival quickly improved Decepticon battle strategy, sending the Autobot forces on Earth into disarray. Optimus Prime himself would have been defeated if not for the timely arrival of Jetfire, who quickly defeated the surprised Decepticon air power and forced the rest into retreat. {{storylink|Tactician}}

Jetfire was quickly installed as second in command, but as everybody who had never served with him discovered, he was a very different kind of 'bot compared to the reserved Optimus Prime. Where Optimus was cautious and analytical, Jetfire was brash and headstrong to the point of recklessness, jumping into the unknown without considering the consequences. As a result, in his first major battle with the Decepticons, Jetfire decided to take all of their air forces on by himself, getting himself into serious trouble. Fortunately, Optimus Prime had recovered enough from his injuries to launch a counter-attack on the Decepticons and unleash his secret weapon—the ability to Powerlink with Jetfire, resulting in the powerful Jet Optimus. {{storylink|Linkup}}

During a battle on a distant beach over a new mysterious [[Mini-Con storage panel]], Optimus Prime and Jetfire once again combined into Jet Optimus to take the fight to the Decepticons. However, even Jet Optimus' power was tested by the arrival of Tidal Wave. The giant Decepticon's sheer strength and firepower forced Jet Optimus on the backfoot, and in their shared gestalt mind, both Optimus and Jetfire were at a loss as what to do. {{storylink|Awakening}}

====''Energon'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Scott McNeil]] (English), [[Nobuyuki Hiyama]] (Japanese), [[Johan Hedenberg]] (Swedish)

During the ten years since the defeat of [[Unicron]], Jetfire was upgraded into a new, more advanced body uploaded with the [[Spark of Combination]], which granted him the ability to [[Powerlinx|powerlink]] with other compatible robots. Jetfire was selected by Optimus Prime to accompany him and [[Inferno (Energon)|Inferno]] to [[Mars (planet)|Mars]] to investigate a mysterious attack on the [[Energon (Energon)|energon]] mining colony there by a group of [[Terrorcon (Energon)|mysterious bestial transformers]]. Jetfire was less than pleased when the inexperienced and immature [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]] wanted to tag along merely to satisfy his hero worship of [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]], but decided to let the youngster come along after Optimus Prime left the decision to Jetfire. After surveying the damage on Mars, Jetfire quickly destroyed a large number of [[Divebomb (Energon)|avian drones]] attacking [[Ocean City]] on Earth. {{storylink|Cybertron City (episode)|Cybertron City}}

Soon afterward, the mining colony on Earth's [[Moon (moon)|Moon]] was attacked by the same mysterious energon-eating creatures. Tasked with conducting reconnaissance, Jetfire and Kicker fought their way through dozens of the bird drones, with the gifted human playing a crucial role in their successful mission. {{storylink|Energon Stars}}

After Ironhide acquitted himself with distinction during the mission on the Moon, Jetfire practiced powerlinking with the younger Autobot, who, unfortunately, could not time the sequence properly. The reason behind the attacks was (partially) revealed when the powerful [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]], commander of the beast transformers known as the Terrorcons, attacked [[Plains City]]. Jetfire arrived with the Autobot reinforcements and finally successfully powerlinked with Ironhide, allowing the young Autobot the honor of being the controlling component of their combined form. {{storylink|Scorpinok}}

====''Cybertron'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Brian Drummond]] (English), [[Hideo Ishikawa]] (Japanese)

{{picsneeded}}
[[Image:CybJetfire01.jpg|right|250px|thumb|I'm a registered bookbinder from Brisbane!]]
After the second defeat of Unicron, Jetfire resettled on [[Nebulon]] for an indeterminate period of time. Over time, he adopted a [[Accents|local accent]], one that sounded very vaguely like Earth-Australian to certain [[Human|humans]]. Jetfire appeared to have mellowed in the past 20 years. He was considerably more cautious compared to his reckless youth, and adhered much more closely to orders and protocol. Perhaps all those brushes with death have finally knocked some sense into his head, or [[Headmaster (technology)|his head was replaced]] while on Nebulon. He returned to Cybertron, his homeworld once again facing a monumental crisis, perhaps the worst in its history.

As a backup plan, Optimus Prime ordered Jetfire to visit Earth and provide them with scans of Earthen vehicle modes for the population of Cybertron to adopt. This was done so that should their primary plan of destroying the [[Unicron Singularity]] fail, the population of Cybertron could assume disguises and relocate to the human homeworld, whose inhabitants were still largely unaware of the existence of real Transformers. {{storylink|Fallen (episode)|Fallen}}

After the final battle with [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]], peace spread across the galaxy. As part of a new initiative, Optimus Prime left aboard the starship ''[[Atlantis]]'' to chart new territory, leaving Jetfire in charge of planet Cybertron. {{storylink|End}}

Free boonie hats for all!

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
====Dreamwave ''Armada'' comic====
Jetfire was left in command of the Autobot troops on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] after Optimus Prime left to protect the [[Mini-Con]]s Earth. He was unhappy with Prime for this, feeling that he had abandoned the Autobots on Cybertron for his affairs on Earth. When Prime returned to Cybertron to request reinforcements and supplies, Jetfire denied him the former, as he was losing the war and needed every man he could get. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 10}}

[[Image:Jetfireblurrsideswiperhinoxoverload.jpg|left|300px|thumb|]]
Some time later, [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] contacted Jetfire and informed him that Optimus Prime had mysteriously vanished. While Jetfire had no clue as to what was going on either, he agreed to do like the [[Space Mini-Con Team]] keep an eye out for suspicious [[space bridge]] activity. {{storylink|Worlds Collide, Part 1 of 4}} Soon enough, [[Blurr (Armada)|Blurr]] reported that multiple space bridges were repeatedly opening and closing at the [[Decepticon Command Headquarters]]. Jetfire decided to investigate, and took a team of Autobots with him to infiltrate the enemy base. {{storylink|Worlds Collide, Part 2 of 4}} Upon arrival, they found that all the Decepticons in the base had been murdered, and that the space bridge nexus was automatically opening and closing space bridges in an apparent attempt to damage the dimensional wall. Suitably creeper out, Jetfire ordered his troops to take control of the nexus, but was suddenly ambushed by a [[Bludgeon (G1)|skeletal samurai]]. After getting his team to blind the enemy, Jetfire blasted it with all the firepower at his disposal, but only managed to damage its [[Pretender|outer shell]]. {{storylink|Worlds Collide, Part 3 of 4}}

The team eventually made their way to the space bridge nexus, and tried to shut it down. Jetfire thought he caught a glimpse of the lost Optimus Prime in one of the space bridges, but shrugged it off. When all attempts to disable the nexus failed, Jetfire ordered his troops to evacuate while he stayed behind to manually blow up the entire building. Three more powerful enemies arrived through a space bridge, but at the last second, Jetfire caught another glimpse of Optimus Prime in a portal, and dove through it right after activating the explosives. While he successfully reached his lost commander, the two were now stuck on an alternate-reality Cybertron in the process of being devoured by [[Unicron]]. Thankfully, [[Sparkplug (Armada)|Sparkplug]], [[Over-Run (Armada)|Over-Run]] and [[Comettor (Armada)|Comettor]] reached this reality as well, and used the power of [[Powerlinx]]ing and the [[Mini-Con Matrix]] to boost the strength of both Jetfire and Prime. The two Autobots combined and damaged Unicron with a powerful energy blast, then returned to their home universe to prepare for the planet eater's arrival. {{storylink|Worlds Collide, Part 4 of 4}}

Jetfire organized Cybertron's planetary defenses, and when Unicron arrived, he combined with Optimus Prime to attack him head-on. Thanks to the efforts of Over-Run and the Mini-Con population, Unicron was eventually vanquished and peace was brought back to Cybertron. {{storylink|The End}}

====''Energon'' comic====
Ten years after the defeat of Unicron, Jetfire was seen flying around in the reconstructed [[Cyber City]]. {{storylink|This Evil Reborn}} He and several other Autobots tried to listen in on one of Optimus Prime's discussions with the [[Autobot High Council]], but were interrupted when [[Unicron's Four Horsemen]] attacked the city. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath}} Jetfire and the others tried to fight back, but were easily taken out by their powerful opponents. However, Optimus Prime managed to link up to Cybertron itself and activate a system-wide upgrade, granting Jetfire a brand new body capable of combining with anyone. He then combined with [[Ironhide (Energon)|Energon]] and used his new strength to help drive the Four Horsemen away. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath, Part Two}} Jetfire and his fellow upgraded Autobots later traveled to Earth to deal with several [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcons]] wreaking havoc in [[Australia]]. However, despite their new bodies, they soon found themselves outmatched by the Terrorcons' use of pure [[Energon (Energon)|Energon]]. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath, Part Three}} Combined with Ironhide, Jetfire participated in a plan to trick the Terrorcons into shooting eachother, but the enemies still weren't driven off until the [[Omnicon]]s arrived as reinforcements. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath, Part Four}}

After returning to Cybertron, Jetfire spent a whole lot of time sweet-talking various governors into granting him the resources and funding needed to construct a base on Earth. As such, he was fairly irritated when it seemed Ironhide wasn't finishing the base components on schedule, and told the engineer that he better not let them down. It didn't help that Ironhide suddenly disappeared while out on an errand, so Jetfire went out to search for him, grumbling about new recruits who were always looking for adventure. After stumbling upon a damaged [[Cliffjumper (Energon)|Cliffjumper]], he eventually Ironhide next to an armed [[seismic-shock warhead]]. After the warhead had calmed down, Ironhide explained that he had built it long ago but made sure it wouldn't go off, and that a [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|a Decepticon]] had just forced him to reactivate it. Jetfire was proud that Ironhide was able to confront his past mistakes, and told him he finally sounded like a true Autobot. {{storylink|Aftershock (issue)|Aftershock}}

Some time later, Optimus Prime vanished, having stepped into a space bridge on Earth but never arrived on Cybertron. This gave Jetfire a headache; partially because they needed him to deal with unrest among the [[human]] population, but mostly because it meant he had to shoulder Prime's responsibilities of asking the ever-unhelpful High Council for reinforcements for Earth. While the council was hesitant about his request at first, councillor [[Avalon]] convinced the other members to grant Jetfire's request. {{storylink|Multiplicity}} Jetfire was thankful to Avalon, who explained that the other councillors were just unwilling to accept that they were at war again, and complimented Jetfire on how he had handled things. As Jetfire lamented the loss of Optimus Prime and Avalon comforted him, [[Prowl (Energon)|Prowl]] burst into the chamber and reported that Terrorcons were assaulting four major Earth cities. Jetfire ordered for the reinforcements to be prepared at once, then took a bunch of Autobots through a space bridge to [[Los Angeles]]. {{storylink|Multiplicity, Pt. 2}} They defended the city from a thousands of [[Insecticon (Energon)|Insecticons]], but quickly started to get worn down by the sheer number of them. {{storylink|Multiplicity, Pt. 3}}

When [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] reported that [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] had come back from the dead and was wiping out Terrorcons in [[Toronto]], Jetfire didn't believe it at first. Even when he accepted the fact that Megatron was back, he ignored the hows and whys as he had to focus on conserving energy for the battle with the Insecticons. Thankfully, [[Rad White]] showed up to power the Autobots up with Energon is gaseous form, allowing them to recover and drive the Insecticons away (with some help from a newly arrived Megatron). Jetfire approached the revived Decepticon leader, who told him that he wasn't done killing Terrorcons just yet, and left him with a message: "Optimus Prime sends his regards... from the belly of the beast!" {{storylink|Multiplicity, Pt. 4}} Jetfire later reported Megatron's return and his message to the High Council. {{storylink|No Exit}}

{{note|At this point, ''Energon'' publisher [[Dreamwave Productions]] went bankrupt, and the story was left unfinished.}}

===Panini ''Armada'' comic===
When Optimus Prime left for Earth, Jetfire was apparently left behind to look after things on Cybertron. Prime contacted him for help when the Decepticons were looking for Mini-Cons on the [[Moon (moon)|moon]], as the [[space bridge]] on Earth was damaged and unable to send any of Prime's Autobots there. Jetfire agreed to use a space bridge on Cybertron to send [[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]] and [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Smokescreen]] to fight the Decepticons on the moon. {{storylink|Panini Armada issue 6|Between Two Worlds!}}

==Toys==
===Armada===
*'''Jetfire with Comettor''' (Giga-Con, 2003)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MC-09'''
**''Accessories'': [[Comettor (Armada)|Comettor]] Mini-Con, electronic shuttle engine/gun, 2 missiles and a shield
[[Image:Armada Jetfire toy1.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"May all your chooks turn to emus and kick your dunny door flat to the grass!"]]
:Jetfire is a futuristic space shuttle molded primarily in white and gray with red paint stripes resembling the stripes seen on the original [[Jetfire (G1)|G1 Jetfire]]. His Mini-Con Comettor serves as his front landing gear and forward gun in vehicle mode. When Comettor (or any other Mini-Con) is connected to the Powerlinx ports on his wings, a large red missile/bomb is dropped. When connected to Jetfire's main engine, two small wings are deployed for atmospheric flight. In robot mode Jetfire's rear landing gear becomes a shield, and his main engine forms his rifle.

:When the tail fin of ''Armada'' Jetfire's engine/weapon is pressed downward, it activates the original Generation 1 Autobot "laser" sound effect. Pressing the tail fin upwards (perhaps by placing the shuttle upright as if in launching mode) activates a rather garbled blast-off countdown sequence. Both sounds are also ''incredibly ''easy to trigger. When a Mini-Con is powerlinxed to the gun/engine, a different laser gun sound is heard. Prior to the release of ''Powerlinx'' Jetfire, a [[running change]] erm, changed the sound effects.

:Jetfire can combine with the Super Base class Optimus Prime to form '''Jet Optimus''', by replacing the regular Super mode trailer legs and attaching Jetfire's shield onto Prime's chest. Additionally, the shield design resembles the chest armour of ''Generation 1'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Powermaster Optimus Prime Apex Armour]]/[[Ginrai|God Ginrai]].

:The Japanese version, released on [[June 26]] of 2003, includes a much brighter white plastic, a lack of battle wear and heat re-entry burn decos, more detailed paint operations throughout his body and accessories as well as different plastic colors.

:This mold was also used to make the [[Transformers Collectors Club]] [[exclusive]] [[Astrotrain (Timelines)|Astrotrain]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Autobot/Jetfire/jetfire.htm More information on ''Armada'' Jetfire at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:PL Jetfire toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"Don't come the raw prawn with me, sport, or I'll show you the rough end of a pineapple!"]]
*'''Powerlinx Jetfire with Comettor''' (Giga-Con, 2003)
**''Accessories:'' Comettor Mini-Con, electronic shuttle engine/gun, 2 missiles and a shield

:The Powerlinx redeco of Jetfire replaces much of the gray and red with blue, in a color scheme very similar to the ''Macross/Robotech'' Valkyrie fighter jet flown by Maximillian Jenius/Sterling.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Autobot/PXJetfire/jetfire.htm More information on Powerlinx Jetfire at TFU.info]''
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*'''Jetfire w/ Comettor''' (Built to Rule, 2003)
**''Accessories:'' Comettor Mini-Con, missile launcher, 2 missiles

:''[[Built to Rule]]'' Jetfire is a building-brick set that can be assembled into a space shuttle or a robot or whatever else you feel like. He came with a building-brick version of Comettor and a firing missile launcher.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Autobot/BTRJetfire/jetfire.htm More information on ''Built to Rule'' Jetfire at TFU.info]''

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*'''Golden Jetfire''' (Giga-Con, 2003)
**''Accessories:'' Comettor Mini-Con, electronic shuttle engine/gun, 2 missiles and a shield

: A redeco of Jetfire with golden [[vacuum metallizing]]. It was a first prize of the [[wikipedia:sortition|sortition]] and only exclusive in certain stores and department stores. There is a golden vacuum metalizing Armada Prime as another first prize. They can combine into Golden Jet Prime, of course.

===Energon===
[[Image:Energon Jetfire toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"If it was raining virgins I'd get washed down the drain with a poofta."]]
*'''Jetfire''' (Mega, 2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''SC-05'''
**''Accessories:'' Spring-loaded missile launcher and 1 missile

:''[[Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' Jetfire transforms again into a white and red futuristic space shuttle, this time in the smaller Mega size class and with the ability to combine with most other Autobot Deluxe and Mega Energon toys. He features an electronic transforming sound effect that activates when another Autobot combines with him.

:The Japanese version of this toy does not feature any of the electronics, uses red translucent plastic in place of orange, and has a sticker covering the now-absent battery compartment.

:This mold was also used to make ''[[Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Overcast (Energon)|Overcast]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Autobot/Jetfire/jetfire.htm More information on ''Energon'' Jetfire at TFU.info]''

*'''Skyfire and Roadbuster'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''SS-02'''
**''Accessories:'' Spring-loaded missile launcher and 2 missiles

:This was a Japan-only two-pack of both Jetfire and Ironhide. There are no differences between the toys in this pack and the individually packed Japanese versions.

*'''Skyfire Sonic''' (Mega, 2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''SC-25'''
**''Accessories:'' Spring-loaded missile launcher, 1 missile, Energon Spear weapon

:This was the Japanese release of [[Overcast (Energon)|''Energon'' Overcast]], though still portrayed as the same character of Skyfire. There are some differences in paint application, but the major difference is the inclusion of an orange Energon Spear, originally belonging to [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/Overcast/overcast.htm More information on Skyfire Sonic (well, actually Overcast) at TFU.info]''
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===Cybertron===
[[Image:Cyb Jetfire toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"Now listen mate, I need to splash the boots. You know, strain the potatoes. Water the horses. You know, go where the big knobs hang out..."]]
*'''Jetfire''' (Ultra class, 2005)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''GC-04'''
**''Accessories'': Left & right spring-loaded missile launchers, 2 missiles, Earth-planet Cyber Key or Autobot Cybertron-planet Cyber Key (see below)

:Jetfire was once again Ultra-sized, but this time transformed into a green cargo plane resembling a modified [[wikipedia:Antonov_An-225|Antonov An-225]]. The design of the vehicle mode features a small homage to Jetfire's previous shuttle forms via a (non-opening) hatch featuring 'teeth' on the dorsal section. Jetfire features sound effects by pressing the port side aft engine nacelle. Inserting his Cyber Planet Key into his tail assembly in either vehicle or robot mode causes a pair of translucent red cannons to extend, and the compartment they are mounted on to raise. Pressing the port side aft engine now features a different sound effect. The tail section can be swiveled up to form an attack mode somewhat resembling the "gerwalk" form of a ''Macross'' Valkyrie (appropriately).

:In robot mode Jetfire has a tendency to topple back due to the heavy battery operated gimmicks of the tail section, though he is more stable if one puts him in an action-oriented pose. In this mode he features two pop-out (non-firing) missile pods in his waist and wields his two wing-mounted (spring-loaded) missile launchers.

:The US version of this toy has a bar between the barrels of the translucent red tail cannons to provide structural integrity at the cost of aesthetics. The other cosmetic difference between the US and Japanese versions is that the ''Galaxy Force'' release has more paint applications. Finally, the ''Cybertron'' release comes with a silver-bordered Earth planet Cyber Key with [[Cyber Key Codes|key code]] '''uk97''' printed on the back, while the ''Galaxy Force'' version comes with a silver-bordered Cybertron planet Autobot key.

:This mold was [[Redeco|redecoed]] to make [[Movie (toyline)|Movie]] [[Jetstorm (Movie)|Jetstorm]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/Jetfire/jetfire.htm More information on ''Cybertron'' Jetfire at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:LOC Jetfire.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"...Shake hands with the wife's best friend? Drain the dragon? Siphon the python? Ring the rattlesnake? You know, unbutton the mutton? Like, point Percy at the porcelain?"]]
*'''Jetfire''' (Legends of Cybertron, 2005)

:''[[Legends of Cybertron]]'' Jetfire is a much smaller version of the Ultra-sized toy, with limited articulation and detail. In the U.S. market, LOC Jetfire was primarily sold in drug stores, though he could be found in normal retailers in markets outside of the US, such as Australia.

:This mold was redecoed to make ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' [[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] and ''[[Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/LOCJetfire/jetfire.htm More information on ''Legends of Cybertron'' Jetfire at TFU.info]''
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*'''Jetfire''' (Burger King Kids' Meal toy, 2005)

:An incredibly simplified version of ''Cybertron'' Jetfire available with [[Burger King]] kids meals. This toy is a partsformer, requiring you to remove his tail section to transform him and to replace it on his back. Oh yeah, he don't stand too good neither. Sucker.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/BKJetfire/jetfire.htm More information on Burger King Jetfire at TFU.info]''

[[Image:Cyb Sky Shadow toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"He's a handsome wild colonial man He can beat the bloody world if Genghis Khan"]]
*'''Sky Shadow''' (Ultra class, 2006)
**''Accessories'': Left & right spring-loaded missile launchers, 2 missiles, Earth-planet Cyber Key

:Sky Shadow is a tan/gold and black redeco of ''Cybertron'' Jetfire, depicting the character in his [[wikipedia:Matches_Malone|cover identity]] as a Decepticon. It uses the same tooling as ''Cybertron'' Jetfire (though the chest panel is retooled to remove the Autobot sigil), so it features the structurally stronger tail cannon. All other functions remain the same.

: Sky Shadow comes with a silver-bordered Earth planet Cyber Key with the code '''u06h''' printed on the back.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Decepticon/SkyShadow/skyshadow.htm More information on Sky Shadow at TFU.info]''
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===Merchandise===
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==Notes==
* The Armada Jetfire toy's appearance and transformation sequence is an homage to ''Generation 1'' [[Galaxy Shuttle]]. This was confirmed by then-head designer [[Aaron Archer]] during his stint as 'ORSON' on the [http://www.tfw2005.com TFW2005.com] boards.

* According to the Transformers Collectors Club magazine, the vehicle mode of this Jetfire is inspired by the X-71 Shuttle from the 1998 film ''[[Armageddon]]''.

* Much like the [[Red Alert (Armada)|''Armada'' Red Alert]] toy's 'Woo-woo-woo' sound effect, the ''Armada'' Jetfire toy's original countdown sound effect briefly became something of an in-joke within the Transformers fan community.

* Jetfire's ''Cybertron'' toy appears (in plane mode) on the screen of the Hasbro version of the [[Real Gear Robot]]s toy [[Power Up VT6]].

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Jetfire''' (ジェットファイヤー ''Jettofaiyā''), '''Skyfire''' (''Super Link'', スカイファイヤー ''Sukaifaiyā''), '''Dreadrock''' (''Galaxy Force'', ドレッドロック ''Doreddorokku'')
*''Hungarian:'' '''Géptűz''' (''Armada'', "Planefire"), '''Lángcsóva''' (''Energon'', "Flameburst"), '''Röptűz''' (''Cybertron'', "Flyfire")
*''Polish:'' '''Myśliwiec''' ("Fighter Plane")
*''Romanian:'' '''Flamă'''

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Autobot/Jetfire/jetfire.htm Jetfire at TFU.info]

[[Category:Armada Autobots]]
[[Category:Autobot leaders]]
[[Category:Built to Rule]]
[[Category:Combiners]]
[[Category:Cybertron Autobots]]
[[Category:Dimension hoppers]]
[[Category:Double agents]]
[[Category:Energon Autobots]]
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== Aligned Timeline ==

I'm going to try and take a stab at creating an Aligned timeline that unites everything we know about the franchise(s) so far. Any help would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 09:48, 17 October 2011 (EDT)

== Help Wanted ==

Hello one and all. I'm here representing a newly created Role-Playing forum that is based in the Transformers Universe. We're in the early stages yet, and are looking for people to help get the ball rolling. Since this site seems to lack a dedicated forum (where requests like these would usually be made) and I haven't seen any other way to effectively say my piece in front of a large audience, I thought that posting here was the best way to "advertise" us, as it were. I sincerely apologize if this was the wrong move on our part, or if I've breached protocol at all, but I can assure everyone that our intentions aren't malign. Those interested, please contact me using any of the ways that I have listed on my username page here on this site. I won't tempt fate by linking our website here directly =P

Once again, you all have my sincere greetings, and I hope to hear from you soon. Also, as a side note: the difference in quality between this page and the transformers wikia is amazing. [[User:Rathian Warrior|Rathian Warrior]] 23:50, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:I'm not sure if you've crossed any lines, and frankly, you were polite enough about it that it's not a big deal, but you could always buy some ad space if you want to raise awareness of your forum. It's cheap! There's usually a link on every page around the banners, but if you didn't catch it, you can follow this link: [https://www.projectwonderful.com/advertisehere.php?id=25311&type=4 Project Wonderful TFWiki Page]--[[User:McFly|McFly]] 16:13, 8 November 2011 (EST)

== "Fictional" and "real" categories ==
I think we need to come up with a consistent way to distinguish categories of things that are real and categories of things that have appeared in fiction. So far, we've skimmed the issue by using synonyms, such as [[:Category:Companies|companies]] and [[:Category:Businesses|businesses]], but that doesn't really work for things like [[:Category:Magazines|magazines]], which is already used for real magazines. Currently, we have [[:Category:Fictional books]], [[:Category:Fictional video games]] that consider the fictional entities "different". On the other hand, we have [[:Category:Real-world events by day]] and [[:Category:Real world films]]. We focus more on the fictional aspect of Transformers, so it makes sense to not point out the fictionality in categories, but "real world" sounds awkward to some. Which one should we use? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:26, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:I thought I'd cheat and see how some of the other fictional Wikis deal with the problem. Three different approaches I saw:
:*[http://tardis.wikia.com/ Doctor Who wiki] has a [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Real_world "Real World" category] for real world stuff and in most cases the categories for real world things are at "Real world X".
:*[http://wookiepedia.org/ Wookiepedia] goes the parenthetical route, with "Books" and "Books (real-world)". Though they also have one or two like "Real world companies".
:*[http://stargate.wikia.com/ Stargate wiki] has "Books" versus "Stargate books" for real world books.
:I kinda like the parenthetical approach that Wookiepedia have taken. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:11, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::I'd favor pointing out the status of both categories, just to make absolutely clear what they are for. The words can be "Fictional" and "Real-world" (I notice both real-world categories use a different spelling. Whichever it's gonna be (if), only one spelling should be used). "Nonfictional" kinda works as an alternative, would "Real-world" be disliked. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 04:35, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::If we go that route, I think "real-world" should be used, since "real world" is a lot more easier to fix than the other parsing. I like the Wookiepedia approach, but I'm not sure that's enough to change how we already do categories. The idea to label both categories sounds nice, but "Fictional X" seems incongruous with unlabeled categories, such as "weapons", "technology", etc.; considering that our main focus is the fiction, I'm leaning towards only labeling the real stuff. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 13:02, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::I think it would be advantageous to put a {{tl|disambig2}} at the top, so people could easily go from the fictional to the real world category too. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:30, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::Yeah, I think I put that on [[:Category:Films]] a while ago. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:57, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::Speaking of this, I found we handle [[:Category:Films]] like [[:Category:Real people]], wouldn't this be some, um, confusing? It's just, somehow, reverse? (Except for the fictional films like ''Honoji'') According to the logic of how we handle [[:Category:Real people]], shouldn't we place films like ''40-Year-Old Virgin'' or ''Godzilla'' in the [[:Category:Real world films]]? --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 23:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)
::::::::Godzilla doesn't go in "Real world films" because it's not a real world ''Transformers'' film. The Transformers is implied in that category name. Presumably we could have a "Real films" category for Godzilla, etc, but I'm not sure it's worth doing. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:53, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::We shouldn't use "fictional X" for two reasons. One, there things like [[As the Kitchen Sinks]] that are fictional even within the fictional Transformers universe. Second, the wiki is written in-universe by default and putting [[Big Steve's Used Cars]] in a "fictional businesses" category would kind of break that. Within Transformers fiction, "Big Steve's Used Cars" is not a fictional company, but "As the Kitchen Sinks" is a fictional TV show. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:47, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::In-universe, As the Kitchen Sinks is not a fictional show. It depicts fictional events and fictional people, yes, but the show itself, as a piece of entertainment, is not fictional. I do get your point, as we actually have things like [[Frankenstein]] that are two layers of fiction removed from us. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:18, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::Yes, of course. I meant, in-universe, ''As the Kitchen Sinks'' is a work of fiction, whereas "Big Steve's Used Cars" is a real business that sells real used cars to real people. Have I been saying it wrong all this time? Wasn't ''Buck Rogers'' a fictional TV show? Anyway, it sounds like you got my point. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:14, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::Or, judging by the fact categories like "Magazines" in used for magazines in our real life and "Companies" for companies in real life, why not just use "Film" for films (such as DOTM) in real life, while we move current contents in "Films" to "Films in ''Transformers'' fictions"? --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 23:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::::That seems like it would go counter to some of our existing naming schemes. e.g. if we split that out into films by franchise, you'd get "Films in Generation 1" rather than "Generation 1 films". Though admittedly the former title might have the advantage that it's clearer in meaning. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:50, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::::I think both are equally ambiguous in their meaning. If we still need to clarify the purpose of the categories, we can always spell it out in the category's introduction. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:03, 7 September 2011 (EDT)

== "Transformers: " ==
We talked a bit about adding back "Transformers: " to the titles of articles [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/Archive51#When_to_omit_.22Transformers.22_from_an_article_title|previously]], and the general sentiment was that people were for it or didn't have an issue with it. Does anybody else have any input in this matter? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:34, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:I'm okay with this change, but I do have three questions on execution. 1.) Whether or not "Transformers" is followed by a colon seems random in our current system. How will that be handled? 2.) If "Transformers(:)" is going to be added to every relevant page name, then what about all the extra words in the titles of Japanese stuff? 3.) What conseuqneces will this have for categories, lists, storylinks, etc? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 04:41, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::#I think we've had two consistent rules about that: If the title is some kind of phrase, like "Transformers United", "The Transformers Collection", or "Transformers Animated", then we don't use the colon. If the title is some kind of obvious "title: subtitle" setup ("Transformers: Armada", "Transformers: Prime"), then we use the colon. There's some borderline examples, but I think we can figure them out one by one. Official sources will help with determining colon-status. The other rule seems to apply to only games: If the title has another subtitle, then the first colon is dropped (ex. [[Transformers Prime: Terrorcon Defense]]). I dunno why, but we can add back the colon, I suppose.
::#I guess we add them? We could argue it for ''Victory'', since it was released in English contexts as just "Transformers: Victory".
::#I think we're just going to continue the same in relation to those. The articles will still be sorted by their subtitles in categories. Storylinks I could go either way on, but I think the trend is to drop the main title. I've been doing that for the AAII storylinks to avoid excessively long links. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:49, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::I don't see how "Transformers United" and "Transformers Animated" are any different from "Transformers: Prime". To me, all three could fall into either of your groups (phrase vs subtitle) and would prefer colons in all of those cases. Of your examples, only "The Transformers Collection" seems to really belong in the "phrase" group. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:22, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::"United" and "Animated" are adjectives that modify "Transformers" and have official sources that omit the colon. "Transformers Prime" doesn't make sense in that way. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:58, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

::::I am not certain about those two "rules" for colons either. They're rather vague and bound to cause arguments and confusion. It needs to be made more obvious whether a colon should be used or not before "Transformers" can be added everywhere (a help page on the matter would also be handy in the future, me thinks).

::::I think that if we would put the cartoon at ''Transformers: Victory'', that would cause confusion with the manga, storypages, toyline and franchises, none of which were ever brought over and should thus not be named such. If moved, the ''Victory'' cartoon should best go to its Japanese name. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:28, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>shrug* The first rule is mostly there for Transformers Animated, which people will be resistant to moving to have a colon (plus, obvious cases like The Transformers Collection). The second rule I really don't care about and can be tossed (it mostly only concerns the movie series of video games and online games). [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:04, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::Are you suggesting there that Victory articles should be moved to "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory"? I'd disagree with that, if so! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:25, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::Why? We can't go around writing out the full names of Western franchises and stuff but not do so for the Japanese stuff. We already have "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" written out for the 1985 & 1986 Japanese franchises, so why not ''Victory''? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 07:30, 10 September 2011 (EDT)
:::::::Victory (the cartoon) has been released in the West as "Transformers: Victory", to me that means that the official English name of the franchise ''is'' Transformers: Victory. Yes, we should give the full Japanese title at the beginning of the franchise page but there is no reason to move anything to that name. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:35, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::That was pretty much my reasoning too (also typing out the full name every time we wanted to link to it would be tedious). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:59, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::Tying out "(franchise)" every time for everything is more tedious, but we still have it (for... some reason). Ditto long titles like [[The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers]] and [[Transformers Vault]]'s previous ridiculously long title.
:::::::::But I guess the general principle of "Transformers: " is acceptable to most. I'll start moving the noncontroversial pages (Western comics and cartoons with definite subtitles, etc.) if there's no opposition in the next few hours. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:08, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::::Is there a difference between [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering]] and [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Ascending|Transformers: Beast Wars: The Ascending]]? I must admit, the comma/colon distinction seems kinda arbitrary. Also, these page names seem kind of overlong and stupid, what's wrong with [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Ascending|The Ascending]] and [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering|The Gathering]]? It's a Transformers wiki and those are Beast Wars series; prefixing everything we possibly can with "Transformers" is only going to clog up the search box and make editing just that bit more arduous. What were the arguments in favour of this again? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 16:21, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::::That's the formatting used in the indicia. Your complaint about the search box is silly; did you really think typing "Transformers" into it yielded anything useful 99% of the time?
:::::::::::Like it or not, "Transformers: " is the part of the name of many things, and the hoops we have to go through to maintain this silly system of dropping it from article titles has gotten ridiculous and inconsistent. Adding "Transformers: " to article titles, on the other hand, adds ''clarity'' and avoids pointless disambiguation. "The Transformers: Bumblebee" is preferable to "Bumblebee (comic)", "Transformers: Sector 7" to "Sector 7 (comic)", etc. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:44, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::::::I get that it's useful in some cases, but it just seems like applying the rule across the board means we're overcomplicating the issue. Occam's razor has a lot going for it, and for user-friendliness I'd go for brevity. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 17:11, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

::::::::::::Also on an Occam's razor tip, "Bumblebee (comic)" conveys more information in fewer characters than "Transformers: Bumblebee". I really don't understand why the latter is preferable. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 14:06, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::::::There's something to say for either argument, but as it is, we have proven to be unable to keep to one consistent "Transformers"-as-part-of-the-title policy at least since TFA. And if trying to keep "Transformers" out of the deal doesn't work, we oughta give the alternative a chance. I don't think it necesarilly makes it harder to find anything, as the search box reacts to words even if they are not the first part of a page title. And I want to have the changes in clear perspective before I might suggest deleting a few redirects, so at least for now, searches won't be any harder and we have a consistent policy. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 14:49, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

I gotta say, I'm hating how this is working in practice. Article titles seem long and ugly to me.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 15:46, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

:I feel the same, but it seems to be an necessary evil because "Transformers: ***" is a full title? duh. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 22:45, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

::I fear the day someone decides to add full titles to disambiguation suffixes as well, e.g. "Optimus Prime (Transformers Animated)", "Grindor (Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen)" etc.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:43, 15 September 2011 (EDT)

:::That would be silly, and I'm pretty sure most people would oppose it. Putting "Transformers:" in names is a change we'd already been drifting towards for a while with, for instance, the War for Cybertron articles all doing it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:32, 15 September 2011 (EDT)

::::On a related note, it's a pet peeve of mine when a writeup talks about a specific medium related to a franchise but links to the franchise as a whole instead, such as "Jetfire was released as part of wave 1 of the [[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] toyline" or "in episode 6 of the [[Energon (franchise)|Energon]] cartoon...".--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 17:29, 15 September 2011 (EDT)
:::::Would the best solution there be something like "Jetfire was released as part of wave 1 of the [[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] [[Cybertron (toyline)|toyline]]"? --[[Special:Contributions/77.99.176.103|77.99.176.103]] 03:32, 29 September 2011 (EDT) (oops, emvee not logged in)
::::::I think linking to the toyline page is sufficent. There's no need for an additional link to the corresponding umbrella franchise. The thought behind this is: "If Joe McRandom sees something that interests him and clicks a link, does he want the link to take him straight to the specific topic or to a more general overview?" I think link targets should always be as specific as necessary. If someone gets interested in a broader overview, he can always go one level up. After all, a link referring to G1 Optimus Prime leads to [[Optimus Prime (G1)]], not to [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)]], either. In the same fashion, toyline pages should deeplink to the specific toy entries on the respective characters' pages (or even their toy pages, if applicable). Like, if Joe McRandom is on the [[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe (2008 toyline)]] page, sees a "Prowl" toy listed under "Deluxe Class" and wants to read more about that toy, he wants the "Prowl" link to take him straight to [[Prowl (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)]], not to the [[Prowl (G1)|main character page]] where he then has to scroll down to "toys", see that G1 Prowl toys have their separate page, go ''there'', ''then'' scroll down to "Universe (2008)". (It currently links to [[Prowl (G1)/toys]], which is at least halfway there.) I will fix this wherever I see it, and implement it when doing writeups.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 08:11, 13 October 2011 (EDT)

===Suggestion to creating templates===

Do we need some kinds of templates when typing contents for convenience? For my experience in Terminator Wiki, we use templates like <nowiki>{{T3}} for ''[[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]]'' or {{TSCC}} for ''[[Terminator: The Sarah Connnor Chronicles]]''</nowiki>. What I'm suggesting is that after we make all franchise names into full title (and we don't use redirect links), it is some how trouble some when typing the title. So we can make some templates like:
<pre>
{{tf|Armada}} -> ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Transformers: Armada]]''

{{tf|Armada|toyline|Pokeformer}} -> ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Pokeformer]]''

{{jptf|bwn}} -> ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo]]''

</pre>

If there is any user who can created complex template, we could make

<pre>
{{tf|armada|t}} -> ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Transformers: Armada]]''

parameter 1:
2010 = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010 (toyline)
thm = Transformers: The Headmasters (toyline)
mf = Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (toyline)
v = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory
z = Transformers: Zone
roc = Transformers: Return of Convoy
oc = Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Operation Combination
armada = Transformers Armada
bwn = Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo
mov = Movie
rotf = Revenge of the Fallen
tfa = Transformers Animated
...and (blah blah)

parameter 2:
*default* - franchise
t - toyline
ct - cartoon
co - comic
m - manga
f - film

And, if possible:
if parameter 3 = s (for example), it will become short title like ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]''

</pre>

--'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 21:42, 24 September 2011 (EDT)

:It's something I've thought about as well. Considering there are a lot of exceptions to the regular naming system (parts of franchises that are called something different or franchises that lack the (franchise) identifier on the wiki because it's not necessary to disambiguate it), I don't think a template can be coded to put a link together. A full list system like our TFtoon templates have could maybe work though. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:08, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
::I think with the number of franchises we have, it would end up being a hellishly big template and difficult to maintain for only a minor gain. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:03, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

==="Fight! Super Robot Lifeform" Transformers===
With the insertion of this phrase into the Victory page titles, should it also be inserted into the titles of The Headmasters, Super-God Masterforce, and Zone? now while the immediate answer would be "No", there are some places that do include this text above the "Toransufōmā" text in each of these series's logos. An example of this would the [[Transformers Tapestry]] (which even includes it in the Operation combination logo as well) and the [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Columbia_Zone_DVD.jpg Columbia DVD of Zone]. Its inclusion in these places seems more than mere coincidence, so would we take this idea into consideration? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 14:33, 23 October 2011 (EDT)
:Um, that ''Zone'' DVD does not support your assertion. All of the ''actual'' media for those series (except for the Zone manga and story pages) do not include The "Fight!..." portion. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:58, 23 October 2011 (EDT)
::Technically the whole toyline in Japan from 1985 to 1992 was called "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers" (as was written on the boxes), so at least the toyline pages for the series of those years would probably need the longer title than just "Transformers: ''X'' (toyline)" --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:04, 25 October 2011 (EDT)
:::So you want to move the toyline pages to some made-up name? Pick one: 1) Merge all of the toyline pages to "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)" 2) Leave the toyline pages as they are instead of stressing over naming things that technically don't exist. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:23, 25 October 2011 (EDT)
::::How is it "made up"? "Tatakae! Chō Robot Seimeitai" means "Fight! Super Robot Lifeform" and is written above the "Toransufōmā" text on the packages of the 1985-1992 Japanese toys. I'm not proposing we merge all those toyline pages together, but rather something akin to the [[Transformers: Beast Wars (Japanese toyline)|Japanese Beast Wars toyline]] page, in which the individual toylines are kept separate even though they were all collectively the same-named toyline. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 17:25, 25 October 2011 (EDT)
:::::"Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: The Headmasters" and its ilk are the imaginary names. Those articles for imaginary toylines are fine where they are. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:53, 25 October 2011 (EDT)

==="Movie"===
There's still [[Movie (franchise)]], [[Movie (toyline)]] and more. Shouldn't that be "Transformers (2007 franchise)" and "Transformers (2007 toyline)", with the current [[Transformers (2007)]] becoming "Transformers (2007 movie)"?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 20:44, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

:Probably. I didn't move them, since I wanted to bring it up for discussion first. The film should be moved to just "Transformers (film)", though. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 21:05, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

:"Movie (''media'')" should be moved to "Transformers (2007 ''media'')" while "Transformers (2007)" goes "Transformers (film)". --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 21:27, 24 October 2011 (EDT)
::That push for lexical accuracy strikes me as creating more ambiguity than it resolves. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:06, 25 October 2011 (EDT)

==Jungaroo==
Someone made a lovely [[Jungaroo]] gobox, but there's no page for him. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:23, 6 September 2011 (EDT)
:I don't think he's in any applicable fiction, but his [http://home.comcast.net/~BattleBeastSD/MGCKang.html bio card is online here]. Someone will have to translate it from Japanese first though. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:25, 15 September 2011 (EDT)

== Making the search suggestion work better ==

I don't know if anyone else has this problem, but I noticed sometimes when I type something in the search box, the search suggestions below it jump around and end up on a list which doesn't quite match what I typed. I think it's something to do with the speed I'm typing and the amount of time the server takes to respond to each request.

Anyway, I tweaked the javascript for grabbing the suggestions from the server so it would only trigger when I stopped typing. That seems to fix the problem for me, and as a bonus it's not nagging the server on every keypress. The downside is no instant feedback when I type, but I can live without that if it fixes the other thing.

If anyone else is having that problem and wants to have a go, just copy and paste the following into your [[Special:MyPage/monacobook.js|monacobook.js]] (caveat: only tested on Firefox and Chrome):
<pre><nowiki>
var ss_memory = null;
var ss_timeron = 0;
var ss_timer;

function DoActualSearch() {
ss_timeron=0;
var newdiv = document.getElementById("searchsuggest");
if (!newdiv) {
var newdiv = document.createElement("div");
newdiv.id = "searchsuggest";
var searchdiv = document.getElementById("searchBody");
searchdiv.appendChild(newdiv);
}
var x = document.getElementById("searchInput").value;
if (x == ss_memory) {
return;
}
ss_memory = x;
document.getElementById("searchsuggest").style.display = 'none';
if (x.length < 30 && x.length > 1 && x.value != "") {
sajax_do_call("wfAjaxSearchSuggest", [x], newdiv);
document.getElementById("searchsuggest").style.display = 'block';
}
}

function MySearchCall() {
if(ss_timeron) {
clearTimeout(ss_timer);
ss_timer=setTimeout("DoActualSearch();",500);
} else {
ss_timer=setTimeout("DoActualSearch();",500);
ss_timeron=1;
}
}

function myss_ajax_onload(){
var x = document.getElementById('searchInput');
x.onkeyup = function(){
MySearchCall();
};
}

hookEvent("load", myss_ajax_onload);
</nowiki></pre>
Unfortunately it won't fix the actual contents of the search suggestions, so you'll still get a bunch of All Hail Megatron issues when you type "Megatron", but that requires changes on the server. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:02, 14 September 2011 (EDT)
:Hmm. I feel like adding <tt>ORDER BY `page_counter` DESC</tt> around line 20 of ''suggest.php'' might help w/ our search results, but it's hard to say for sure given how abstracted mediawiki database calls are, someone would have ot make the change then test it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:47, 15 September 2011 (EDT)
::The thought I had was to do a query on article titles starting with the search term, and then if that gives back less than 8 entries, do a second search to fill the rest of the list with titles with the term anywhere in the title. The search suggest currently supports both options, but not at the same time. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:07, 15 September 2011 (EDT)

==Stuff==
: Firstly, our organization of information related to the junior franchises is terrible and I'd love to do something about it, but I need feedback. We currently have most Japanese and American Go-Bots as separate characters, except for the Japanese Go-Bots from the 1-2-3 line. Though there are requests for a separate Chopper page. Should those pages be split or not? And if so, what about the figures that came with some of the toys. Kid-Bot clearly isn't the "red driver" or "blue driver", but the dog and "Gas-Bot" both have fiction in only one of the two franchises, so is it worth separating them? Also, does the unpublished coloring book count as apocrypha or not, seeing as it was mostly approved? And the human characters within, do they count as cameos like Kelly in the Dreamwave comics or separate characters? And does anyone know what the Japanese name was by which the First Transformers were released? The Go-Bots fansite has an image of Dumpkun's box featuring what looks like a G1 logo, the First Transformers logo and "初めてトランスフォーマー" written on it.
: Secondly, many disambiguation pages still mention if there's a separate page for the toys of a character. Is this system still necessary now that we use subpages to separate such stuff under? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 17:07, 23 September 2011 (EDT)

::I think unpublished stuff is treated as apocrypha, isn't it? The character page coverage of unreleased Dreamwave issues is in notes, for instance. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:48, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
:::True, but we don't know if those were approved or know those weren't approved. The coloring book was approved, just not released. That makes it better comparable to Wreckers #$, which we do not consider apocrypha (though I wouldn't know if we'd do that if Wreckers #5 didn't partially canonize it). [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:39, 1 October 2011 (EDT)
::Just weighing in on the toy page issue: I find it useful to have these called out on the disambig pages. Being able to go directly from the disambig page to the toy page of a character saves me at least one click (if I see the suite box in time) and often some scrolling (if I don't see it). However, I won't fight too hard on this if consensus is for the removal of this feature. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 07:47, 26 September 2011 (EDT)

::Thinking some more about the Go-Bots stuff, as the Japanese version of Gas-Bot has no fiction, it probably doesn't need its own page - either link to Gas-Bot's page or just leave it unlinked in the appropriate toy sections. Same with the US version of the dog. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:30, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

== Facebook. ==

Is '''<nowiki>http://www.facebook.com/pages/TFwikinet/191252494230187</nowiki>''' us? Because it's the #1 link when you search for "TFWiki Facebook," and our group is nowhere to be seen. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:32, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

:I think our group is not showing up because you have to have a Facebook account to see it? When I go to the group's URL, I just get a page prompting me to log in to Facebook. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:47, 12 October 2011 (EDT)

::The link is this one: [http://www.facebook.com/groups/28226443881/ http://www.facebook.com/groups/28226443881/], which is the #3 on the search by "TFwiki site:facebook.com" on Google. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 19:51, 12 October 2011 (EDT)
:::So the other one isn't ours, and we can't put a link on it pointing it to the group.
:::Annoying. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 13 October 2011 (EDT)
::::It's a "Community page", whatever that is. Clicking on the "Create a page" button on the top right of that page does bring up some sort of form which seems like it will do something. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:12, 13 October 2011 (EDT)

== Halloween ==

Presuming we're deco'ing our frontpage for Halloween... does anyone have any suggestions? Monsters, ghosts, gouls? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:09, 27 October 2011 (EDT)
:Animated Blitzwing's random face looks sorta Jack O'Lanterny and could work as a replacement for the Autobot insignia on the site logo, assuming we can find a head-on image of it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:35, 27 October 2011 (EDT)

== Moving "(Timelines)" articles ==

I'm thinking that, as we don't bother with "(Timelines)" for SG, TransTech, and Animated characters, we should apply the same across the board and only use it if necessary.

*[[Astrotrain (Timelines)]] → Astrotrain (Cybertron)
*[[Cannonball (Timelines)]] → Cannonball (G1)
*[[Cop-Tur (Timelines)]] → Cop-Tur (G1)
*[[Halogen (Timelines)]] → Halogen (G1)
*[[Side Burn (Timelines)]] → Side Burn (G1)
*[[Sky-Byte (Timelines)]] → Sky-Byte (G2)
*[[Switchblade (Timelines)]] → Switchblade (BW)
*[[Thunderblast (Timelines)]] → Thunderblast (G1)
*[[Yoketron (Timelines)]] → Yoketron (G1)

The exceptions are the Descent into Evil characters, who don't really fit in any pre-existing franchise, and the Nexus Prime characters, who don't originate from a particular universe.
*[[Buzzclaw (Timelines)]]
*[[Dirge (Timelines)]]
*[[Flareup (Timelines)]]
*[[Landquake (Timelines)]]
*[[Ricochet (Timelines)]]
*[[Heatwave (Timelines)]]

Thoughts? Or does nobody really care that much? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:19, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:Since you asked, I'll pitch 2¢ into the conversation, since I know a little bit about it. I found out the hard way that wiki "doesn't bother with '(Timelines)' for Animated." And by hard way, I mean I was clobbered over the head without a hint of explanation for proposing that a Timelines-original Animated continuity character should be at "(Timelines)." But no hard feelings. I still think "franchise of origin" and not "continuity of origin" is best for disambiguations. For reasons that have been discussed previously on the subject. TransTech and SG are treated as a kind of sub-franchises of Timelines by the wiki, so I think they are an OK exception. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:00, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::The prose stories are identified as "Transformers Timelines presents a Transformers: (franchise) story". I would say that both franchises are equally valid to the stories, and the fact that non-Timelines stories (Around Cybertron, magazine comics, etc.) bleed together with Timelines stories makes the "(Timelines)" designation convoluted. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:12, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:::Well, that's different. It sounds like you are calling their actual franchise of origin into question, not just their disambiguation. I don't have an opinion about their actual franchise of origin. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:28, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::::I'm not denying that they're Timelines, but saying that they're better categorized under their other franchise. Like the Animated guys, it seems more instinctive to file [[Side Burn (Timelines)]] under "Side Burn (G1)" instead (not to mention that there's other Side Burn in Timelines: [[Side Burn (SG)]]).[[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:38, 2 November 2011 (EDT)
I'm hesitating, but let me think about the ramifications. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:20, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:I'd be fine with this. Though, one thing I'd like to propose is giving the Wings Universe characters their own disambiguation suffix. Like maybe "(Wings)" or something. I know it's a part of G1, but it's kinda like its own series within the over G1 continuity family like the Japanese G1 series are (which are also given their own suffixes such as "(Victory)", "(ROC)", "(BT)" etc.).

:Though, as for the Descent into Evil characters, maybe something like "(DIE)" or "(Descent)" or even just "(Descent into Evil)". Or, if not, keep them at "(Timelines)". --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 11:51, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::I think the DIE guys are fine where they are (although you could argue moving [[Ricochet (Timelines)]] because of [[Ricochet (SG)]], but I don't really care). As for the Wings Universe guys getting their own disambiguation, eh... [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:02, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::I am '''definitely absolutely''' against creating a (Wings) disambiguation when (G1) or (Timelines) work perfectly fine. We do NOT disambiguate by continuity except by absolute necessity within a franchise. Making up a (Wings) parenthetical just because incredibly confuses our disambiguation policy for no real reason. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:46, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::And what exactly keeps the Descent into Evil guys from being tagged G1? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:29, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:::Is the intermezzo period between G1 and BW considered G1 or BW?

:::It's all G1 characters... and IIRC the Insecticons were supposed ot be part of Insecticon plans which had been around for ages, so the characters weren't "BW-era only" characters...

:::I could support a G1 disambigif you talked me into it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:01, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::::DIE fiction (Descent into Evil itself and [[Intimidation Game]]) has elements of both BW and G1; it doesn't have a certain franchise placement. Dirge (Timelines) and Ricochet (Timelines) also have namesakes firmly in G1. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:14, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:::::BW is both BW and G1. And G1 has been back-incorporating BW elements since, like, 1995. The fact DIE has G1 and BW doesn't mean it's part of neither. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:25, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

::I think that, by the nature of Timelines, it feels more natural to parse that specific set of characters by their continuity or parent-franchise of origin. Honestly, I think the Nexus components (''all'' of them) are really the best and only candidates for the Timelines parser.

::Also, I made a [http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Template:c quick template] that you guys could use here to simplify the coding for whenever you need to link a continuity-parsed name.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 15:37, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:::Unfortunately I don't think that template would work as well here, because our articles are not consistently named by franchise. For instance [[Lightspeed (G1 Technobot)]], [[Flattop (Autobot)]] and [[Impactor]] are all (G1) characters but don't use (G1) in their title, so the template wouldn't work for linking to them. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:05, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

:I think that Timelines is a pretty clunky franchise for the purposes of this wiki, in that it covers multiple continuities. I think the proposal on the table makes sense.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:31, 3 November 2011 (EDT)

== Two spaces after a period in a sentence ==

I've noticed this for a while on the Wiki. In practice, it makes no difference as the software displays one space the same way it displays one. However, I've been wondering why people do it. Now I '''know: They''' were taught so in school. '''By teachers who were taught on friggin' ''typewriters''.''' So the "two spaces after a period" rule is a leftover from the typewriter days, where it was a necessity, but it's completely obsolete on computers. [http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html Source]--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 07:16, 4 November 2011 (EDT)
:The sentence spacing rules were, in fact, developed by typographers, but were not phased out via the magical introduction of the personal computer. The em-space rule exists for monospaced fonts, which were still fairly common for a great number of printers through the mid-1980s. If you would like to begin a tyrannical series of grammar-based wiki edits, I would begin by avoiding the use of prepositions at the start of sentences. I would also advise some respect for the proper use of colons and semi-colons, as typographical errors should not take priority over proper word selection and punctuation. Cheers! --[[User:McFly|McFly]] 14:20, 7 November 2011 (EST)
::Are you referring to sentences beginning with prepositional phrases for the sake of emphasis (also known as an introductory modifiers)? That's totally valid. Or do you mean idiocies such as relative clauses that are separated from the preceding main clause by a period instead of a comma? The most glaring typographic blunders I encounter on the wiki typically go hand in hand with awkwardly worded sentences and clunky terminology, so I'm inclined to assume the same person(s) is/are responsible for all of those.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 20:14, 8 November 2011 (EST)
:::I have bolded an example. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:14, 8 November 2011 (EST)
::::Aw, you altered your post. No fair! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:16, 8 November 2011 (EST)
:::::What'd I alter? I just moved it up. Anyway... I'd call that one "deliberate departure from proper grammar for the sake of dramatic emphasis". It's about as improper as using a period after ''every. Single. Word.'' If it's obvious from the context that it's done for emphasis, I'd call it acceptable as long as it's not used inflationary. I'm sure we have a few cases of "We know it's not proper grammar, but we want to stress a point here" on the wiki. (How did the saying go again? "Know the rules first before you break them"?)--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 20:28, 8 November 2011 (EST)
:....or you can just set the bot to convert " " to " ". Since we don't output monospace font, or anything.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 15:22, 7 November 2011 (EST)
::Over the whole wiki, those extra spaces account for maybe 20kb of data, which I don't think is worth worrying about. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:21, 8 November 2011 (EST)
:::Typed text is typed text, and the double-space after a period is still correct. Shall we next be told that we're "wrong" for not having the wiki use the metric system, or for writing down dates with the month before the day instead of after it? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 23:31, 8 November 2011 (EST)
::::Oh, and I bolded something too. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 23:36, 8 November 2011 (EST)
Due to habit, I'm gonna double-space until I die. I really don't think that needs to be considered a problem. Is that really a problem? An extra millimeter between sentences? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:51, 8 November 2011 (EST)

Nevermore ''is'' right about it being mostly obsolete, but for purely technical reasons: All double (triple, etc.) spaces are collapsed down to one for display in HTML. If you want the extra spaces to actually be viewable as extra blank space, you have to use <tt>&</tt><tt></tt><tt>nbsp;</tt>. So if you double-space here on the wiki, it only shows up when you edit the page. For whatever that's worth. (Not really taking sides, just presenting the info.) --[[Special:Contributions/67.252.49.31|67.252.49.31]] 06:08, 9 November 2011 (EST)

== More on the search box/"Transformers" everything ==

Typing "Energon" into the search box does not give me [[Energon (franchise)]], [[Energon (cartoon)]] or [[Energon (toyline)]] as top results. Same for "Cybertron". I assume this has to do with the recent "Transformers" prefixing for article titles. However, typing "Animated" into the seach box ''does'' give me franchise and toyline as top results, so it should be ''possible'' despite the prefixing.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 07:36, 6 November 2011 (EST)
:It's purely alphabetical, dude. ''Animated'' shows up before ''Arcee (Animated)'' because "An" precedes "Ar", whereas ''Arcee (Energon)'' comes up before ''Energon'' because "A" precedes "E". --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 08:13, 6 November 2011 (EST)
::There's an option in the search suggest tool to limit the results to stuff starting with the search query rather than with stuff with the term anywhere in their titles, however it's not something that can be configured through MediaWiki. There's a bit of discussion about it in the "Making the search suggestion work better" section up above. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:36, 6 November 2011 (EST)
:::If we wanted to do ''that'', when we shouldn't have prefixed "Transformers:" before hundreds of articles 3 weeks ago. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:06, 19 November 2011 (EST)
::::We still have the titles without "Transformers: " as redirects though, so they'll still show up. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:23, 19 November 2011 (EST)

== Spam-dalism ==

Is that the neologism for it? Anyway, somehow the ReCaptcha is failing to stop the automated spam, and I'm guessing the IP's are all very different.

How old are the accounts when they do this? If they're fairly new, would it be possible to simply block IPs and new accounts from inserting new external links? If not (or if that's unworkable), would it be possible to flag such edits for review the way that wikipedia does to edits on contested pages?

Also, is there any chance these are at least coming from the same proxy? The fact that they're getting past ReCaptcha makes it seem like these are actual people doing this, unless ReCaptcha only activates on certain namespaces.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 14:25, 18 November 2011 (EST)
:I was using captcha with images on my phpBB installation on another site (Doctor Who related) until yesterday and getting a half dozen spammers a day signing up in despite of it. Yesterday I switched to a Question Answer challenge which asks the person registering to name the main character's time machine, and so far it has stopped the spammers dead.
:MediaWiki has [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QuestyCaptcha QuestyCaptcha] which looks like it works in exactly the same way, and works with the ConfirmEdit extension we already have installed. If we can get that installed and set up, it might be more effective than the image-based system we use now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:39, 18 November 2011 (EST)
::What would the questions be? It can't be too obvious or too obscure. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:31, 18 November 2011 (EST)
:::Not necessarily. The question I'm using on my Doctor Who site is obvious if you have any knowledge at all of the source material, but it seems to be working. We can always start with something easy and see how we go. Most likely all of the spammers are using bots anyway. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:49, 18 November 2011 (EST)
::::"What is the name of the red-and-blue semi Autobot?", "What's the name of the blue casette player Decepticon?", or "What is the name of the yellow semi Micromaster Autobot with a hydraulic crane?"[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 17:50, 18 November 2011 (EST)
::::: "What is the fandom's usual reaction when a new franchise is announced?" :p [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:56, 18 November 2011 (EST)
::::::<tt>If Dick has two apples and Jane has two apples, how many apples do they have? (3 letters.)</tt> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:09, 19 November 2011 (EST)
::Ah, but then it would be so easy for users to use only three exclamation marks, and forget the requisite four exclamation marks and a 1.
::No but yeah, a question helps a lot. Might even be worth doing for all IP edits and new accounts, not just those with external links.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 15:57, 19 November 2011 (EST)
::While we're on the subject, is it somehow possible to flag certain terms or words used by IP editors and auto-block them? *coughcoughobamacoughcough*[[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 16:31, 19 November 2011 (EST)
:::...but we have an article on [[Barry Obama]].
:::Are you trying to whitewash the wiki? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:13, 19 November 2011 (EST)
:::: It was just an academic question; after all, I'm sure that you've noticed our considerable problem with a certain IP editor lately. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:19, 19 November 2011 (EST)
::::: Well yes... but I couldn't resist. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:43, 19 November 2011 (EST)
:::It's getting to the point where I'm thinking a temp ban on the whole ISP might get better results. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:51, 19 November 2011 (EST)
::::sooo...who would you need to talk to about getting this set up, and what exactly do you want to restrict?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 19:45, 21 November 2011 (EST)
:::::The guy whose IP addresses are always located in England who keeps vandalizing articles with Obama-related nonsense. Doesn't look like even banning IP ranges stops him. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:01, 22 November 2011 (EST)
:::::...so, there's no way to stop this lunatic? [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 11:09, 22 November 2011 (EST)
:Options, in order of severity:
#Block all new uses of the word "Obama" to all anonymous editors.
#Block anonymous editors entirely.
#Destroy England.
:But really, that's a separate issue with probably a separate solution, since the guy is a some kind of being. To deal with the spamdalism, I think you guys should add a "name that Transformer-mon!" question, which should cut down heavily on automated edits, and if they still get through, look at blocking all uses of external links for anonymous or new editors. The use of the question for all IP edits is fairly standard, so it should be easy to implement, and you can look into harsher measures if the bots still make it through. However, I really think you guys should make an effort to get this setup, because the conversation keeps kind of drifting down and the vandalism keeps happening.[[Special:Contributions/98.223.102.157|98.223.102.157]] 02:29, 23 November 2011 (EST)
:: On another note... isn't it cute how he keps trying to badly pass himself off as me? I think someone has a bad case of hero-worship. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 10:09, 23 November 2011 (EST)
:::Please stop egging on vandals. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:05, 23 November 2011 (EST)
::: OK, on a more serious note, is anyone averse to just locking the wiki for a few days? Bulbapedia does it regularily and they don't have much of a vandalism problem. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 12:36, 23 November 2011 (EST)
Removing the "Undo" option for anons would help, at the very least. We need a regular tech person (or give abates access to the MediaWiki stuff, since he seems to know his way around). [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:12, 25 November 2011 (EST)
::: What if we implemented a captcha system for anon edits? I mean, it wouldn't ''stop'' them, per se, but it would make persistent vandalism wars a hassle. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 14:16, 25 November 2011 (EST)
::::I would not be opposed to that, or simple stock questions. ("Who is the leader of the Autobots?", "What is two plus three?", etc.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:23, 25 November 2011 (EST)
:::: Rodimus Prime? :p
::::: But seriously, how did Mr. Obama Guy get past the rangeblock? Because that's rather worrysome in and of itself. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 14:26, 25 November 2011 (EST)
::::::BT Internet has a lot of IP ranges. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:58, 25 November 2011 (EST)

Okay. Listen. 
1) CAPTCHA won't change crap. It ''might'' stop a small number of bot edits, but we have a large, active mod presence that basically polices this place around the clock, and any of those crappy ad pages can be eliminated in mere minutes, if not within seconds of their creation. 
2) There is basically '''''NOTHING''''' that can be done to ''stop'' someone who has decided that the best use of their time is constant, repeated, easily-reverted vandalism of a wiki. Well, okay there are a few options, but they're not ones any kind of wiki coding is gonna be part of. They'll find ways around bans, and all these automated things that are being suggested are basically shooting blind and wasting time. This is not remotely the first time someone has thought to do this. It won't be the last. But we've outlasted all those others. And that's all it takes. Again... that large active 24-hour admin presence that quickly and coolly reverts the vandalism ''without getting all butthurt''. That's what vandals want, to watch you get pissy and panicky and angry... ''and that's what you're giving them.'' So '''''shut up''''' and stop feeding that, then they'll eventually get bored and leave. 
3) I can perhaps get behind removing the "Undo" option for anons. I don't think though that it will really help much, since making an account takes what, a few seconds? 
--[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:38, 25 November 2011 (EST)
:Um. I don't want to offend anyone, but the Obama-guy thing ''really'' isn't related to this topic, although some of the solutions to the spamdalism thing might work to hinder him. The bigger issue is the guys spamming the wiki with links to knockoff viagra, sort of thing, and putting up a simple question system for anons and new editors would work to stop that almost completely, at least everywhere I've seen it in use.
:The mod presence, yeah, things eventually get cleaned up by the end of the day, but a simple, standard change like adding the question will prevent that from happening in the first place.[[Special:Contributions/99.39.88.159|99.39.88.159]] 22:44, 26 November 2011 (EST)
:Just to alleviate any concerns: In my experience, the question captcha does not prevent human edits except from the most severely uninformed editors, and it completely prevents the bot-spam, which at this point almost totally covers the RC when I happen to check it. Many other independent wikis, such as Halopedian, use the question captcha, so if you guys wanted a first-person POV on it, you could also ask them for their experiences. Basically, the captcha question should totally eliminate the bot-spam, with the only drawback being that it adds maybe a fraction of a second to anonymous human edits. So, given that, does anyone have any objections to adding the captcha question?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 13:09, 1 December 2011 (EST)--(same anon as throughout this topic)

== Spelling throughout the Wiki ==

I've found that, on multiple spots on the Wiki, there are UK English spellings of words. Now, I know that the Transformers Wiki is a country-spanning project, but I'd like a consensus on whether or not we should change incidences of UK spellings (like "practise" and "polarize") to their American English counterparts. A streamlined flow using only one dialect would, I believe, make the editing process much easier. However, I do not want a backlash from UK users. 
P.S.: Damn you, Webster! You and your new-world dictionary! [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 18:09, 23 November 2011 (EST)
:[[Help:Style guide#National varieties of English|Here is the wiki's policy on the subject]] just so you know. I myself don't think it needs changing. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:20, 23 November 2011 (EST)

== Why are the IDW books in G1? ==

Going by our own Continuity Family article the concept is pretty much akin to TvTropes Broad Strokes, a rough outline of somewhat similar events. If the IDW comics are explicitly stated to be a REBOOT of G1, how do they count as part of that continuity family if Animated and the Film Series dont, which ostensibly could also be called G1 Reboots. Classic aspects, such as the Ark/Nemesis Crash Landing and dormancy , Unicron's attack as seen in the movie (which was more or less is continuity across G1) and hell, even there Beast Wars don't really sync up with past Family history. Does a reboot of G1 really count as G1? Say what you will about Dreamwave, but at least they TRIED to fir it in to some semblance of G1 Continuity, this seems to be more like a full start over, akin to Aligned or RID ((before the Japanese got to it.) -[[User:Lush City|Lush City]]
:Uggghhhhhh. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:09, 1 December 2011 (EST)
:Yeahhh, you not understanding the concept of Continuity Families particularly well.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 16:30, 1 December 2011 (EST)

::Other continuities within the G1 continuity family also eschew some of those classic aspects. In [[Action Blast 1]], for instance, the Autobots crash on present-day Earth and they don't hang around in stasis for millions of years. I don't think there's really a template of specific events that a G1 continuity has to stick to. That would hamper storytelling too much. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:59, 1 December 2011 (EST)

:::Also, they share a lot of the same characters, body designs, and personalities. Granted, some of them are common across the multiverse, but things like Megatron becoming a gun and Optimus Prime as a flatnosed tractor-trailer are distinctly G1-ish. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:29, 1 December 2011 (EST)
::::FYI: [[Talk:IDW Generation 1 continuity#New evidence that IDW is not G1|Previous discussion here]]. Yes, on the one hand, it is G1 because it uses the G1 cast of characters for the most part, and most of those pretty much have the same personality as their G1 bio card as on their G1 counterparts (with the significant exception of their gimmicks). On the other hand, [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=143991#143991 an artist] has said it is not G1, so it isn't entirely crazy to say it isn't G1. The universe itself doesn't seem particularly G1. It is like a different universe populated with G1 guys. The Micromasters aren't Cybertronain (I think), so a whole class of G1 Transformers aren't Transformers which sounds like a different universe. In short, it mostly makes sense for the wiki to organize it under G1 so they don't have to duplicate character pages with characters with mostly the same intro paragraph. But don't take it too seriously, it isn't official or anything. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:54, 1 December 2011 (EST)
::::: No, that’s not what I’m saying. What I mean is that there seems to be no CANON justification for why IDW is considered G1. Especially because it lacks the links of similar G1 works, it’s never been verified as such by the creators (as far as I know) and it’s “G1-ness” is tentative at best.

:::::IDW really doesn’t have as strong a link as or other G1 families. They all either were marketed as direct extensions to the original 80s ‘Toon and Comic adaptations (Gen 2 and Dreamwave ) established “next gen” sequels (Beast Era) Inserts into Gen 1 (Alternators and much of Japan’s stuff) Or add ons to particular points of the G1 timeline (Classics, Dreamwave) hell Timelines might count as a little bit of all of these. IDW really has no direct link.

:::::That leaves us to the creators, and when it’s referred as such by them they use the term "reboot” or the like. Hell Simon Furman, architect of a large section of G1, straight up called it an ‘Ultimate’ version in his CBR interview. And Don Fig doesn’t consider it G1 at all.

:::::Even then we look at why we call it G1 it causes all kinds of fallacies. Relying ion art style to tell families (as said in our very own article) leads to insanity, as characters change appearances across media ostensibly in eths same family all the time (for example WFC and Prime) likewise the “G1" aspects, such as personality, and looks, have been used both in the Transformers Film and Animated families, and yet we don’t consider them G1 despite both being just about the same kind of reboot on it IDW is. They incorporate a version of the Beast Ear into their timeline but assuming a connection with their main IDW addition, it’s just as differing as Aligned or Animated version of the Beast era would be.

:::::I’m not trying to rock the boat I se4riously would just like to know if there’s any official, canon, or Hasbro/Creator data that states IDW as a version of G1, because right now I’m not seeing it.

:::::Don't get me wrong, I don't want to be seen as the "young turk" coming into old pros territory and rocking the boat against guys who have been studying this since before I was born, but I just picked up a bunch of Simon Furman stuff from [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Marvelcomicscontinuity.jpg The old comics]] as well as the big two volume IDW packs and they just don't fit at all. They're as different from G1 as the Films, Animated or RID are. I don't think we should makes assumptions and leaps of logic just for convenience's sake, kind belies the purpose of a wiki, ya know? -[[User:Lush City|Lush City]]
::::::This is a ridiculous amount of navel-gazing to get past the point that IDW continuity is just G1 in new dressing and not a new franchise of its own. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 01:42, 2 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::By that terminology ALL of Transformers media is Just "g1 in a new dressing" by the virtue of G1 starting the franchise. -[[User:Lush City|Lush City]]
::::::::That is not what I mean by "franchise". Please don't be obtuse. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:05, 2 December 2011 (EST)
::::::::Considering new Generation 1 toys keep being made in the style of IDW design, that that firmly cements the stuff as being G1 in Hasbro's eyes. And the fact that they are constantly using Generation 1-style character aesthetics, personalizations and the freaking '''original font''' on the titles. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:35, 2 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::::The wiki's more confident about calling it G1 than even Hasbro, which calls the toys "Generations." Wiki organization is one thing, but we act more like it is a fact than it actually is. "Generation 1" doesn't really exist anymore. Hasbro is a little ashamed of it. Or at least doesn't want to pigeon-hole their toys and comics as being old-school. The [[IDW Generation 1 continuity]] page as a "Generation 1" logo on top. That doesn't really reflect reality which is more hazy. Maybe "Generations" is the new "Generation 1" or something. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:56, 2 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::::To use your Simon Furman point against you, saying that IDW is not G1 is kind of like saying that Ultimate Marvel is not part of the Marvel Multiverse. It may be fairly different, but it is undeniably the same basic characters and situations. Also, I never have figured out why anyone really cares what the creative teams think, anything they say can be overruled by Hasbro at any time. Even after it has been published. Only Hasbro's opinion really matters.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:07, 2 December 2011 (EST)
Discussed ad nauseum years ago. Nothing new has been added to the conversation since. Not changing. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:13, 2 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::::Aesthetics have already been disavowed as a valid ground for Continuity Pedigree, most notably with the Aligned Family. if Hasbro itself hasn’t recognized it as G1, hasn’t directly tied it to a previous G1 work, and if the writers and artists themselves don’t consider it G1, how is it legitimate to denote it as G1 based on our interpretation. Especially given such ethereal "evidence" as the looks of toys and ''fonts'' of all things.

:::::::::Hasbro has yet to give any word. And also the Marvel analogy wont work, because while Marvel has but ONE Multiverse composed of several individual universes. The TF Multiverse is a collection of Universal Streams, each roughly following the same vents with several different interpretations over key events. It's like comparing diffirent versions of the Bible as rather than like comparing the Bible against the Koran.

:::::::::M Sipher, would you do an FYI link? I've seen the discussion over on IDW Continuity’s Main page and the quibbles on the main Continuity Family but never any hard decree from an authority based on reasoning any more firm than convenience. I'm simply trying to hold IDW to the standards of the other G1 works on the wiki, all of which have '''in-canon''' links to versions of G1, or else are stated as such by the Companies. -[[User:Lush City|Lush City]]

:99% of all IDW characters are G1 characters, based on their original G1 counterparts. The different origins of some characters (Arcee) are no different than varying origins between the original cartoon and Marvel Comics (Grimlock, Technobots). Compared to the Aurex universes, where only Optimus, Megatron and Starscream consistently fit the G1 character archetypes, whereas most other characters are clearly just name reuses (Red Alert, Cyclonus, Jetfire, etc). Even Malgus and Tyran, both clearly closer to the G1 continuity than Aurex, have clearly distinctive character differences. IDW Bumblebee is clearly a variation on the original G1 Bumblebee, whereas Movie 'Bee and Animated Bumblebee are approximate extrapolations, see also Ironhide, Ratchet, Jazz, and so on.
:IDW is a G1 universe that has expanded beyond the original G1 concepts, but not the characters themselves. Trying something new is not the same as abandoning the underlying foundation. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 11:47, 2 December 2011 (EST)
:I'm sure there are other examples, but Prowl, Sunstreaker, and Sideswipe have appeared in their Universe Classics series bodies while Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp have appeared in their Masterpiece bodies. All of those are undoubted G1 toys. Either IDW is G1 or those toys are being repurposed. All things considered it seems most parsimonious to classify IDW as a part of G1. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:56, 2 December 2011 (EST)
::Masterpiece is a franchise. Classics series is G1continuity family but it isn't G1franchise. Unfortunately, "G1" can mean different things. Just so everyone is on the same page, the wiki treats IDW as being part of the G1 ''[[franchise]]''. For example, on the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity]] it has the G1 franchise logo. Is that what this discussion is about, or is the discussion about if IDW is part of the G1 continuity family? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:28, 2 December 2011 (EST)
:::The original poster said continuity family. I do consider IDW a different franchise within the G1 continuity family. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:39, 2 December 2011 (EST)
::::Oh, OK. Anyone else? Show of hands? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:04, 2 December 2011 (EST)
::But does the use of Character analogous to G1 interpretations define it as a G1 series? This really comes don to whether we define continuity families as being overlays of roughly similar events (as in Tvtropes Broad Strokes) or whether we are tying versions of characters as the archetype from which it is based. If you're taking side new altmodes and differences like Goldbug and Galvatron is being "based" on G1 to a degree enough to allot status within the family? At that point we might as well make a spectrum of "G1-ness" and start arbitrarily cutting everything. As it stands now our definitions of Families are based off there uniqueness of story and universe content, and IDW differs significantly from any other G1 work. {{unsigned|158.103.0.1}}
:::So does ''Hearts of Steel''. Shall we consider that a separate family as well? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:11, 2 December 2011 (EST)
::::As the line of books it was from was cancled de jure that cnat really be elaborated on. (Although it's G1 staus was controversial to start with, it being the TF equivilant to a What if or Elseworlds) But HoS was never devolved as an obstensive reboot, rather an Alt-universe portyal that gets put in G1 by the same stroke as the Sg-verse. (if we diidnt have it's Universal Stream number to go by). IDW on the contrary was billed as a reboot, the same way aligned is being done now. Couple that with the radical (and debatedly unparalleled ) story alterations and you have apples and oranges. Though really teh entire "G1 by default" mindset is pretty off-putting. Heck it might even work as a really big Mirco-Contunity. Pardoxial as that sounds. {{unsigned|158.103.0.1}}
:::I was under the impression that the character archetypes were a major part of what makes a continuity family. These problems really only arise with G1 because it is the only family that has had multiple continuations and reboots and additions for decades after its debut. The RID, Unicron Trilogy and Animated continuity families have been pretty well limited to their original period of release (not ''entirely'' so but with only a few minor exceptions). --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 18:42, 2 December 2011 (EST)
:::::I think this is really down to the fact that Continuity & Franchises is just too darn confusing. Not to mention that there can be disparate continuities within a franchise and different franchises can make up a continuity, all of which fit into the over-arching Continuity Family. Obviously there must be enough in common in order to include any new franchise into an existing Family, or to take the leap and create a new Continuity Family. Does new media have to have enough in common with the progenitor of a Continuity Family to be included? Or merely use aspects of the varying franchises of said Continuity Family? With G1 ''all'' of the supporting media has strayed from the originating cartoon, but kept enough characterizations, and broad timelines within the Family. RID, Animated, Aligned, etc have all maintained aspects of 'Transformers' but been significantly different from each other to establish there places as individual Continuity Families. Whereas IDW is disparate from these Families, and other than story lines (which have to change be definition) most closely fits G1. In order to argue IDW being a new Continuity Family you would have to prove that it is different enough from other existing Continuity Families & G1, which doesn't fit given the IDW timeline, characters and mythology, it is all based off of G1 franchises.[[User:Yuppie|Yuppie]] 19:04, 2 December 2011 (EST)
::::::I just want to point out that the G1 cartoon ISN'T the "originating" source. That would be the TOYS. And the comic work came before the cartoon. So... yeah. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:15, 2 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::That's right. Transformers is different than other fiction on TVTropes because the toys are the originating source and not storylines. Therefore the characters derived from the toys are the important thing. Even in things you would think so, like movies. If they came up with completely different fiction with the movie toylines cast, it would be the live action movie continuity family. So I think IDW is pretty clearly G1continuity family. What else but G1 would include Roller and the Combat Deck? Nothing. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 00:04, 3 December 2011 (EST)
::::::: So the official definition is based off of the toylines? Okay, fine by me. I guess I'll edit that line somewhere on the main Family page. Would you also mind linking me to the IDW toyline page? Google brings up zippo. -[[User:Lush City|Lush City]]
::::::::Yes, yes, you're very clever and funny, ha ha. I'm so glad you're here to bring fresh new things to the table. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:09, 3 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::: Is sarcasm warranted? I'm not here to pick fun, and I've been respectful, so why cant you do the same? -[[User:Lush City|Lush City]]
:::::::::IDW doesn't have a toyline. IDW is a derivative work based on the original G1 toyline, just like the Sunbow cartoon and the Marvel Comic. IDW is not in the same continuity as the cartoon or Marvel, but it is in the same Continuity Family -- perhaps that's causing some of the confusion here. When we say IDW is G1, that's like saying that Ultimate Marvel is part of the Marvel Multiverse, and NOT the DC Multiverse. IDW is part of the Generation 1 Continuity Family because the characters and concepts (NOT the STORIES, mind you, but the underlying CONCEPTS) come from the G1 background and toyline, instead of from the Unicron Trilogy, Movie, or Animated background and toylines.
:::::::::Nod if you understand now, oh Nameless One. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 18:18, 3 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::::Okay then, but then why is something like "Wings" considered G1, when it's primary characters and concepts (The Elite Guard and Sentinel and Magnum/Magnus) draw from Animated? It's made as an insert into a form of G1, but I'm actually starting o question which takes precedence story or characters. From what I've read and from the list of G1 I've seen, they all cover a very similar story with detail changes (Unicron Trilogy covering the Mini-con Hunt, the Energon Wars and Cyber Key Search, The Film's Allspark history.) I'm saying that if ''those'' works can base themselves off a G1 characters concepts and ideas (again, drawing from the Tyran and Malgus Streams here) than why is IDW different? It can be argued that the Film and Animated storylines are just as different from G1 as IDW's is, and there charters are all clearly drawn from G1, in the absence of any official la word from Hasbro and knowing we have creators describing it as a reboot (similar terms being used for Animated and RID) why is it that they are considered separate. Is it ''because'' they have a toyline separate from the main G1 lines? Is it because of the fact that versions of them cover a wider dearth of material? Our article defines Continuity Families as "a group of distinct but closely-related individual continuities." We also set up a three step process for determining new continuities, noting that they should be “a) a fresh continuity, b) within a separate franchise, and c) significantly different in cast, theme, style, etc." IDW tests positive for a, is inconclusive for b (given its lack of a toyline) and due to the nature of c, is highly debatable. If we look at past examples continuities follow the same general structure and theme, even various permutations son the setting. Taking the origin 1984 Toyline/Cartoon/comic trifecta, we can see Dreamwave and the Beats Era serving as Sequels (leaving the original era to a vague "Camelot" level of detail as shown by the creators) while Kiss Players and Gen 2 expanded versions of the continuity. While there were inconsistences (dinobot origin, differing dates for the reformatting) they all followed roughly the same events, or modifications of those events from a central thesis (Wings, use of the Elite Guard, Heart of Steel’s age change or the Mirrorverse aspect of Shattered Glass. Not only does the IDW timeline differ from the G1 timelines enough to put it in the same breath as other confirmed continuity families. IDW's position can be seen as being akin to the initial RID reboot, while it obviously used G1 characters the (there being no others to use at the time) the storyline and aspects were utterly different (before Takara's retcon) a good way to do so would be to compare Megatron with the RID Megatron and the IDW Galvatron. Both are totally different characters, while the Tfwiki approach seems to be that they are effectively different iterations of the "same character." The Unicron Trilogy gets a shift because of the absence of Mini-cons, Energon Wars, and the different concepts of the Quintessons and Scorponok. The Animatedverse shows an entirely different Cybetronian social Order (which IDW also accomplishes, withe there casting of the war, the Tyrest accords, Megatron's origins, the "Protocols" etc.) If we were to create an ostensibly accurate definition of continuity families on a rubric of "distance" from each other, than it would not be that hard of a stretch to determine that we have an inherent fallacy between hat we let in and out of G1, as Franchises with equal relationship to G1 get casted in differing families. if the rubric lies within a different maxim (having separate toylines, character portrayals) than not only would we need to rewrite our definition of what constitutes a family, but we would also have to undergo a mass reassessment of the family set up as a whole. Currently the strongest (and only) reason for them being in G1 is that they look and act like there other G1 counterparts, which I, and others, find isn't valid enough grounds in the wake of all the other evidence. Otherwise, WFC would be G1. -[[User:Lush City|Lush City]]
::::::::::"Wings" is G1 '''because it takes place between episodes of the original cartoon.''' Oh my god. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:18, 5 December 2011 (EST)
::::::::::WFC ''is'' G1continuity family for all the reasons stated already (it features the G1 cast of characters in a new setting.) But Hasbro shoehorned it into the modern stuff, so the wiki plays along. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:31, 5 December 2011 (EST)
Nobody is going to read that, dude. I don't know why you're putting this much effort into something that is not going to change. Just save yourself and us the trouble and give up the conversation. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:23, 5 December 2011 (EST)
:Hey! There was a mini-consensus brewing that although IDW belongs in G1continuity family, it doesn't belong in the [[Generation 1 (franchise)]]. Anyone want to talk about that? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:31, 5 December 2011 (EST)
::If it makes you sleep better at night, I really don't care. Nothing here is going to change and the idea of having the Wiki treat IDW G1 as its own franchise is imbecilic. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:57, 5 December 2011 (EST)
::: On a related note, though this is probably a question born out of my own stupidity/ignorance, but if Wings is G1, then why do we call it the Wings Universe, which implies that it is a seperate continuity family? (For the longest time, I thought it ''was'' its own little verse). [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:02, 5 December 2011 (EST)
:::: ''We'' don't call it the "Wings Universe", Fub Pub do. In the same way one might call the Marvel comics the "Marvel universe" or the cartoon the "Sunbow universe". That's all. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:06, 5 December 2011 (EST)
:::::This is bit of a digression, but "Wings Universe" is used in the same fashion as "Cybertron", "Shattered Glass", and "TransTech" in the heading for their prose stories. I think that, in the lack of anything official to contradict it, "Wings Universe" is the name of that particular "franchise" (or whatever term you prefer). There's more to WU being a franchise, through parallel construction with the other Club/Timelines sub-franchises, than there is for IDW, at least. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:33, 5 December 2011 (EST)
:::: Ah, I see. Thanks. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:09, 5 December 2011 (EST)
:::::Also, further to what Interro said - yes, please, Mr. anonymous type person... just let it go. No-one is going to read that giant wall of text. I don't understand how you can't simply ''look'' at the IDW comics, and the way the characters are portrayed in them, and not understand ''why'' they are G1. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:08, 5 December 2011 (EST)
:::::Pardon, but why is the use of large amounts of text a bad thing? Wouldn't the use of Basic English essay format (claim, source, analyses, and explanation) to put out your points in an argument be a positive thing in an encyclopedic debate? @ Walky, yes I know Wings is explicitly set in G1, that's why I used it as an example to highlight a double standard. A reason given for why IDW was G1 was because they used G1 character traits as a base. I noted that under that rubric (characters over stories or what creators say) than Wings would count as a Malgus stream because of all the elements from Animated, regardless of its intended placement within the original cartoon as stated by the story. I'm not particularly attached to the idea of IDW being in or out of G1, I'm just noting that there is a paradox within the way we define Continuity families. Either we’d have to move IDW out of G1 (and perhaps others) to better fit in with the "definition" of a family we have now, or we'd have to reassess and probably redefine how we decide and clarify the families, otherwise we'll wind up doing classification by convenience; taking things on case by case basis by whatever "works" for the moment rather than having a single unifying maxim. If we're just going to "eyeball" to find what continuity fits where we are going to have contractions and hypocrisies, as we do now. We should move to standardize the method of continuity selection, because if we continue this method we’ll have a severe inconstancy and consistency is the lifeblood of any encyclopedic source of information. -[[User: Lush City| Lush City]] 23:58, 6 December 2011 (EST)

:::::I'm no longer sure what you're suggesting our organization should be. Are you suggesting that IDW comics are not G1 franchise (in which case we should move "Drift (G1)" to "Drift (IDW)") or are you suggesting that IDW comics are not in the G1 continuity family at all (in which case we would make an "Optimus Prime (IDW)" page)? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:28, 7 December 2011 (EST)

::::::What's this "we" shit? Have you actually done any work on the wiki before? And regardless of that, would you actually be willing to carry out the hours and hours of tedious work that would be required to carry out whatever it is you're suggesting? I'm gonna go way out on a limb here and guess the answer is a big ol' fat freakin' "No". Heck, just MAPPING OUT an IDW split-off would take for-freaking-ever, but you haven't even done that much. Give us a diagram, a mock up page, a sandbox, SOMETHING.
::::::We got a system that works, that makes it easy to find info on Prowl and Hardhead and Nightbeat and all their doings in the cartoons and the comics and whateverelse. There's no BENEFIT to anything you're suggesting. It would just be separating information that makes more sense, is more cohesive, and builds upon itself when it's all in one place.
::::::And dude, this is not Serious Business. It's MADE-UP GIANT SPACE ROBOTS. There are no "hypocrisies" involved. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 09:08, 7 December 2011 (EST)
::::::What major elements do you think make Wings an Animated related universe as opposed to a G1? The mere presence of an Elite Guard? That's pretty ridiculous. Look at all the characters used in those stories, they act like and take the positions of their G1 selves because they are those G1 characters. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:13, 7 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::Just as the IDW characters are. I think that if you're making such ridiculous claims as Wings being an Animated universe because of these elements then you are simply not understanding how continuity families work. I mean, what is so hard to understand about this? Wings is in the G1 continuity family because it features the G1 characters (in a setting explicitly derived from the backstory of the G1 cartoon). IDW is in the G1 continuity family because it features the G1 characters (in a new "Ultimate" style setting). Henkei Henkei is in the G1 continuity family because it features the G1 characters (with a movie-inspired backstory). - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:26, 7 December 2011 (EST)
::::::Yeah. At this point, it's pretty clear that -surprising no-one- the argument against how we have things now falls COMPLETELY apart. Wings of Honor as Animated? Oy. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:53, 7 December 2011 (EST)

:::::: Regardless of any continuity quibbles I'm almost certain that IDW isn't a G1 franchise. Those are decided by corporate not us (which, continuity families are, more or less). I'm also finding IDW's status as a G1 family debatable mostly because while it's characters and looks are "G1" it's story is quite different from any other G1, or at least as different from G1 as some other stories we've also made different families. It all depends on what exactly our rubric is, if we value Aesthetics , character traits and the like over plotline similarities or what creators say ,than Wings gets confusing, and Aligned is just a Clusterbomb, it might have to be split. (Or made into some bizarre "Dual Family" thing) Just shifting IDW and a few other pages to be more in line with what we already have seems far less drastic and disturbing.
:::::::: Repo, that tone is uncalled for. I'm from TvTropes, I know what it means to spend hours on a wiki, I'd also note that I would call anything that someone would ''consider'' spending hours on as "serious" business; this site has served as the primary bastion of TF knowledge for years, don't diminish that. By the same vein We shouldn't do things just because they're easier, we should do things because they're right, as it is, they way we define Continuity Families leads to inconsistencies, the largest one being IDW, I'll get to work on the mock-up, but I ''do'' find it hilarious that someone would tell me "it's not that serious" and "put several hours of work into this n00b" in the same breath. --[[User:Lush City|Lush City]] 4:38, 8 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::: '''"Then Wings gets confusing"'''
:::::::: No it does not. It will never, ever be confusing. Wings is G1. It is set in a variant of the G1 cartoon continuity. You will never, ''ever'', '''''ever''''' make a case for what you are saying by trying to hold up the Wings universe as an example of a similar (non-existent) conundrum, because it is unquestionably, unequivocally, unfalteringly, unhaltingly, utterly inarguably G1. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 04:54, 8 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::: That's my point. In the same way the Wings story is so totally G1 making it such is insane (despite the Animated influences, The IDW story is so totally ''not'' G1 that having it as such is insane (despite the G1 influences) We can either give characters our story priority, not either or.
::::::::: Simple question: How can you look at a comic full of G1 characters and say "this is not G1"? Please answer that. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 06:46, 8 December 2011 (EST)
::::::::::Your logic is idiotic. All you're doing is arguing for the sake of arguing because we will never consider IDW as not G1 in contradiction with common sense. If you don't like it, make your own wiki. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 06:50, 8 December 2011 (EST)
::::::: Wings had one character (Sentinel) and one concept (Elite Guard) that were arguably derived from Animated and not G1. The four Guard teams focused on (Thunder Clash's, Metalhawk's, Onslaught's, and Powerflash's) are all G1 characters, as are all the villains of the stories, the background characters, the setting, and the ''implicit and explicit authorial intent''. Yes, the unique nature of Transformers continuity allows for "reverse homages", as G1 influenced the creation of Animated and pieces of Animated have now influenced subsequent G1 stories, but that doesn't change the underlying nature of the entire universe. IDW is not an Animated timeline either, just because Lockdown was adopted into the universe in ''[[Transformers: Drift]]''.
::::::: G1 is the oldest and largest continuity family in Transformers and, as a result, it occasionally borrows characters and ideas from the other continuities that come and go in its wake. But across the 12 club comic issues, the 2 BotCon specials, and the 2 online prose stories, well over 150 characters have appeared. Of those, exactly THREE originated from non-G1 toylines. The remaining 99% are all G1 characters or brand-new to any universe.
::::::: Wings and IDW are both obviously G1 to anyone whose paying attention. Trying to craft an argument where it could, potentially, be re-phrased in some way that, if you squint, might make it look like they aren't G1...is ignoring common sense and the vast abundance of evidence put before you. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 08:27, 8 December 2011 (EST)
:If I may interject? The wiki's notion of continuity families runs parallel to the canon in-multiverse concept of [[universal stream]]s. There is a 99.999% chance that any reference to IDW continuity from a canon perspective would classify it as a positive-polarity Primax stream. That makes it part of the G1 continuity family. The movies and Animated are in the Tyran and Malgus clusters respectively. That makes them not part of the G1 continuity family. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 08:43, 8 December 2011 (EST)

==Beast Wars Neo Sausage is gone!==
The page was deleted for some reason. It was marked as vandalism, but as I'm sure some of you know it actually existed. -- [[User:Terrortron|Terrortron]] 22:47, 2 December 2011 (EST)
:As far as I know it didn't. Are you sure you're not thinking of [[Beast Wars II Sausage]]? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:13, 2 December 2011 (EST)
::Do you mean the page or the product? I'm not sure the page existed, but the product itself most certainly did: [http://movies.tfarchive.com/movies/Commercials/Japanese/bwneo3.mpg TV commercial for Beast Wars Neo Sausages] --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 00:55, 3 December 2011 (EST)
:::We've never had a BWN Sausage page, no. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:16, 3 December 2011 (EST)
::::We had it briefly in January but it was just a vandal making [[Beast Wars Neo Sausage|a crappy page]]. Feel free to create it again if you have the info. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:26, 3 December 2011 (EST)
:::Man, that advert makes it look like the most awesome thing ever. If I knew Japanese I would already be making a page for it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:33, 3 December 2011 (EST)

==Actor/Voice Actor's other roles==
It seems as of late that the intro sections for actors and voice actors have become mini-IMDB pages. [[Clancy Brown]] isn't really best known for being on ''Earth's Mightiest Heroes'', even if we do have a page for the [[Avengers]] to link to. [[John DiMaggio]]'s is getting to be more résumé than intro. It seems kinda silly to suggest ''removing'' content, but it's just been something bugging me.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 19:03, 6 December 2011 (EST)
:No, you're quite right, and I agree. One user seems to be a bit of a voice-whore and is going around adding a lot of frivolous additional info. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:34, 6 December 2011 (EST)

== Character articles and redirects with titles/ranks ==

I'm of the opinion that where a character has a title or rank, there should be a redirect from their full name with their title in front of it to their article. I don't think we have any explicitly spelled out rules on how this would work though, and at the moment there are some redirects to the [[Sidney Biggles-Jones]] article marked for deletion. There's been some previous discussion about it [[Talk:Doctor Biggles-Jones|here]]. How should we treat ranks and titles? If her name was specifically parsed as "Dr. Biggles-Jones" in a comic, for instance, do we have a redirect using that name or do we just stick with writing it out as "Doctor"? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:58, 13 December 2011 (EST)
:My gut instinct is to have redirects for every way their name and rank is spelled out in fiction. I don't have a strong opinion on this, however. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:00, 13 December 2011 (EST)
::It's gramarically incorrect to use title-abbreviations in speech bubbles or inside quotes in writing. One doesn't say "Mrr Dlinn," one says "Mister Dlinn."
::I don't think we're beholden to the way such titles were parsed in the original source material; it's a distinction without meaning. But I don't mind having two redirects either. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:04, 13 December 2011 (EST)

== Fall of Cybertron ==

We desperately need to fix up the [[Fall of Cybertron]] related pages. The page that should remain as the definitive should be what is currently called [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (360/PS3)]], which I recommend should be renamed simply "Fall of Cybertron" or "Transformers: Fall of Cybertron". We do not require the franchise page and the video games page, along with the PS3/X360 page, as the PS3/X360 is the only confirmed version of the game, with PC confirmed to NOT be happening, and Nintendo systems left up in the air. I wholly support streamlining the navigation for the FOC pages, and perhaps placing FOC as "sequel" in the WFC franchise navigation bar. --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 05:32, 20 December 2011 (EST)
:That sounds sensible to me. We can always move it back to (360/PS3) when the DS and/or Wii and/or whatever version is announced. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:20, 20 December 2011 (EST)

== Problems retrieving password ==

(Since this seems the best place to ask.)
Hi,
I've been reliant on a cookie for so long that I've forgotten my password. (Blushes) However when I try to get the site to email me a new one it says one has been sent but nothing has arrived in my email; nor will it allow me to make the request again for 24 hours.

Is anyone able to check the login database to see if something's gone wrong at that end? [[Special:Contributions/109.154.29.163|109.154.29.163]] 15:58, 22 December 2011 (EST)

== Account renaming ==
Is it possible to get an account renamed in this wiki? Thanks. --[[User:AutoUIMagnus299|Autu299]] 16:43, 24 December 2011 (EST)
:It's not technically possible, because we don't have the MediaWiki Renameuser extension installed. The best you could do is create a new username, stop using the old one, and put links between the two accounts on your user pages. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:56, 24 December 2011 (EST)
::Ok, thanks for the tip. --[[User:AutoUIMagnus299|Autu299]] 16:49, 25 December 2011 (EST)

Flex Media

2011-12-27T22:37:01Z

24.58.224.22: /* Trivia */ "on", oops

{{factions|dvd|germany}}
[[Image:Flex Media logo.png|frame|Nowadays, they call themselves "Reflex", and are probably a lonely child waiting by a park]]
'''Flex Media''' is a [[Germany|German]] [[home video]] distribution company that released several episodes from the ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The Transformers]]'' on DVD from 2007 to 2008, with German audio only.
{{-}}

==Releases==
;DVD
*'''''Transformers'' — Box-Set (3DVDs)''' (August 1, 2007)
: Includes episodes "[[Roll for It|Die geheime Anti-Materie Formel]]", "[[The Autobot Run|Wer ist der schnellste Autobot?]]", "[[Auto-Bop|Gefährliche Hypnosekraft]]" and "[[The Girl Who Loved Powerglide|Das Mädchen, das sich in Powerglide verliebte]]" on Disc 1, "[[Transport to Oblivion|Die Weltraumbrücke]]", "[[The Rebirth, Part 1|Die Wiedergeburt, Teil 1]]", "[[The Rebirth, Part 2|Die Wiedergeburt, Teil 2]]" and "[[The Rebirth, Part 3|Die Wiedergeburt, Teil 3]]" on Disc 2 and "[[Hoist Goes Hollywood|Hoist geht zum Film]]", "[[The Killing Jar|Der Sog des schwarzen Loches]]" and "[[Nightmare Planet|Alptraumplanet]]" on Disc 3.
*'''''Transformers'' — Box-Set (2DVDs)''' (March 11, 2008)
: Includes the episodes "[[Roll for It|Die geheime Anti-Materie Formel]]" and the [[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1|Season 3]] [[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2|Finale]] on Disc 1 and "[[Transport to Oblivion|Die Weltraumbrücke]]" and all three episodes [[The Rebirth, Part 1|from]] [[The Rebirth, Part 2|Season]] [[The Rebirth, Part 3|Four]] on Disk 2.
<center><gallery>
Image:FlexMedia TF Box 1.jpg|'''''Transformers'' — Box-Set (3DVDs)'''
Image:FlexMedia TF Box 2.jpg|'''''Transformers'' — Box-Set (2DVDs)'''
</gallery></center>
{{-}}

==Trivia==
* The episodes are in the noticeably incorrect order they're listed above on the discs themselves.
* On the back of the ''Transformers — Box-Set (2DVDs)'' case, "The Return of Optimus Prime" is listed as a three-parter instead of a two-parter, and "Optimus" is misspelled as "Opti'''n'''us".

{{stub}}

[[Category:Home entertainment]]

Flex Media

2011-12-27T10:41:34Z

24.58.224.22:

{{factions|dvd|germany}}
[[Image:Flex Media logo.png|frame|Nowadays, the call themselves "Reflex", and are probably a lonely child waiting by a park]]
'''Flex Media''' is a [[Germany|German]] [[home video]] distribution company that released several episodes from the ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The Transformers]]'' on DVD from 2007 to 2008, with German audio only.
{{-}}

==Releases==
;DVD
*'''''Transformers'' — Box-Set (3DVDs)''' (August 1, 2007)
: Includes episodes "[[Roll for It|Die geheime Anti-Materie Formel]]", "[[The Autobot Run|Wer ist der schnellste Autobot?]]", "[[Auto-Bop|Gefährliche Hypnosekraft]]" and "[[The Girl Who Loved Powerglide|Das Mädchen, das sich in Powerglide verliebte]]" on Disc 1, "[[Transport to Oblivion|Die Weltraumbrücke]]" and [[The Rebirth, Part 1]] [[The Rebirth, Part 2]] [[The Rebirth, Part 3]] on Disc 2 and "[[Hoist Goes Hollywood|Hoist geht zum Film]]", "[[The Killing Jar|Der Sog des schwarzen Loches]]" and "[[Nightmare Planet|Alptraumplanet]]" on Disc 3.
*'''''Transformers'' — Box-Set (2DVDs)''' (March 11, 2008)
: Includes the episodes "[[Roll for It|Die geheime Anti-Materie Formel]]" and the [[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1|Season 3]] [[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2|Finale]] on Disc 1 and "[[Transport to Oblivion|Die Weltraumbrücke]]" and all three episodes [[The Rebirth, Part 1|from]] [[The Rebirth, Part 2|Season]] [[The Rebirth, Part 3|Four]] on Disk 2.
<center><gallery>
Image:FlexMedia TF Box 1.jpg|'''''Transformers'' — Box-Set (3DVDs)'''
Image:FlexMedia TF Box 2.jpg|'''''Transformers'' — Box-Set (2DVDs)'''
</gallery></center>
{{-}}

==Trivia==
* The episodes are in the noticeably incorrect order they're listed above on the discs themselves.
* The back of the ''Transformers — Box-Set (2DVDs)'', "The Return of Optimus Prime" is listed as a three-parter instead of a two-parter, and "Optimus" is misspelled as "Opti'''n'''us".

{{stub}}

[[Category:Home entertainment]]

Flex Media

2011-12-27T10:40:44Z

24.58.224.22: Clean up English. I hope I didn't misinterpret that one note about the typo...

{{factions|dvd|germany}}
[[Image:Flex Media logo.png|frame|Nowadays they call them self "Reflex", but that didn't stop them from putting out crappy DVD!]]
'''Flex Media''' is a [[Germany|German]] [[home video]] distribution company that released several episodes from the ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The Transformers]]'' on DVD from 2007 to 2008, with German audio only.
{{-}}

==Releases==
;DVD
*'''''Transformers'' — Box-Set (3DVDs)''' (August 1, 2007)
: Includes episodes "[[Roll for It|Die geheime Anti-Materie Formel]]", "[[The Autobot Run|Wer ist der schnellste Autobot?]]", "[[Auto-Bop|Gefährliche Hypnosekraft]]" and "[[The Girl Who Loved Powerglide|Das Mädchen, das sich in Powerglide verliebte]]" on Disc 1, "[[Transport to Oblivion|Die Weltraumbrücke]]" and [[The Rebirth, Part 1]] [[The Rebirth, Part 2]] [[The Rebirth, Part 3]] on Disc 2 and "[[Hoist Goes Hollywood|Hoist geht zum Film]]", "[[The Killing Jar|Der Sog des schwarzen Loches]]" and "[[Nightmare Planet|Alptraumplanet]]" on Disc 3.
*'''''Transformers'' — Box-Set (2DVDs)''' (March 11, 2008)
: Includes the episodes "[[Roll for It|Die geheime Anti-Materie Formel]]" and the [[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1|Season 3]] [[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2|Finale]] on Disc 1 and "[[Transport to Oblivion|Die Weltraumbrücke]]" and all three episodes [[The Rebirth, Part 1|from]] [[The Rebirth, Part 2|Season]] [[The Rebirth, Part 3|Four]] on Disk 2.
<center><gallery>
Image:FlexMedia TF Box 1.jpg|'''''Transformers'' — Box-Set (3DVDs)'''
Image:FlexMedia TF Box 2.jpg|'''''Transformers'' — Box-Set (2DVDs)'''
</gallery></center>
{{-}}

==Trivia==
* The episodes are in the noticeably incorrect order they're listed above on the discs themselves.
* The back of the ''Transformers — Box-Set (2DVDs)'', "The Return of Optimus Prime" is listed as a three-parter instead of a two-parter, and "Optimus" is misspelled as "Opti'''n'''us".

{{stub}}

[[Category:Home entertainment]]

The Transformers: The Movie promo

2011-12-27T07:33:09Z

24.58.224.22: /* Japanese version */

[[Image:TFTM promo title card.jpg|thumb|300px|I'm getting all nipply...]]
Early in the production of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', a '''promotional trailer''' was made to sell the project to potential investors.

{{bigquote|A new motion picture will transform the summer of 1986 into an incredible adventure.|The promo's opening blurb.}}

This trailer features a fair bit of test footage that was either changed or cut before the movie's release, together with a few lines of unique narration by [[Victor Caroli]].

==Notable differences==
[[Image:TFTMpromo-SnarlWithSwoop.jpg|thumb|150px|"Hey man. How long have you been there for?"]]
*There are close-up shots of both of [[Unicron]]'s pincers piercing [[Lithone (planet)|Lithone]]'s surface.
**Unicron's inner workings have a much more organic appearance to them.
*The [[Autobot shuttle]] is a slightly different design and colour scheme.
*When [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] tells his story about the [[Ick-Yak]] to the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], they are sitting around in robot mode.
**Kup's dialogue is from a different take to that which was used in the movie.
**[[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]] is also prominently featured in this scene, despite being relegated to cameo status within the actual movie. However, this comes at the cost of [[Slag (G1)|Slag]], who doesn't appear at all in this scene, as per the original script's description of "the four Dinobots".
*What is shown of the [[Battle of Autobot City]] is a bit more energetic and violent than the final version.
**[[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] is drawn in his [[Diaclone]] colours.[[Image:DiacloneMagnusAnime1.jpg|thumb|150px|Y'all know me. Still the same O.G.]]
**[[Autobot City]] is mostly white.
*The [[Matrix of Leadership]] is missing from around [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]'s neck.
**The placeholder image is a white outline somewhat resembling the middle sphere, but without the handles.
*Galvatron falls inside Unicron as he transforms, only to suddenly reappear outside of him.
*Unicron in robot mode has an orange mohawk and is missing his [[facial hair]].

In addition to the above points, there are a few lighting and sound effects featured that were changed for the movie's release.

Musically, the trailer is soundtracked with selections from [[wikipedia:James Horner|James Horner]]'s score to ''[[wikipedia:Star Trek III: The Search for Spock|Star Trek III: The Search for Spock]]'' (specifically, the "Return to Vulcan" and "Bird of Prey Decloaks" cues).

==Japanese version==
A slightly re-edited version of the trailer exists that features Japanese captions on screen. Apart from these captions, there is little difference between the two versions; the opening blurb has been removed (probably due to it being pointless in front of an audience that can't read English), and some of the blank footage between cuts has been trimmed down. An excerpt from an instrumental track by the legendary British metal band Iron Maiden, "Losfer Words (Big 'Orra)" (from their 1984 album ''Powerslave'') is heard in this promo as well.

This version was available in Japan on the [[Transformers Hero]] Laserdisc. The laserdisc was widely bootlegged on VHS tape in the US.

==Theatrical version==
The promo was later cut down to around 90 seconds in length (from its original 4¼ minutes), re-cropped to fit a widescreen aspect ratio, and sent out to cinemas as the movie's first [[commercial|theatrical trailer]].

[[Image:TFTM promo theatrical.jpg|thumb|left|225px|''The Transformers: The Migraine™'']]
This version is composed of the original opening blurb, a new flashy title card (which is so awesome that it is shown 2½ times by the time the trailer ends), a shorter version of the scene aboard the Autobot shuttle including the captions that introduce the new characters and their voice actors but omitting Kup's monologue, and the Battle of Autobot City sequence.

The theatrical version also differs from the original promo in that it is scored with [[Vince DiCola]]'s "[[Escape (song)|Escape]]", a cue taken directly from [[The Transformers: The Movie - Original Motion Picture Soundtrack|the movie's soundtrack]], together with some brand new Victor Caroli narration.

Being a trailer, it is preceded by the perennial [[wikipedia:MPAA|MPAA]] green screen and the [[De Laurentiis Entertainment Group]] logo, and ends with a promise that the movie will be "coming this summer to a theatre near you".

==Home video releases==
The different versions of the promotional trailer have been made available to the general public as a bonus feature on a few DVDs:

[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2002 — ''Transformers'' — Complete Original Series: Deluxe Edition ([[Maverick Entertainment|Sony Wonder]]) — The Japanese version. 
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2005 — ''Transformers: The Movie'' — Reconstructed ([[Metrodome]]) — The Japanese version. 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2006 — ''Transformers: The Movie'' — 20th Anniversary Special Edition ([[Sony|Sony BMG]]) — The theatrical version. 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2006 — ''Transformers: The Movie'' — 20th Anniversary Special Edition (Sony BMG) — The original version, but with commentary by [[Paul Hitchens]] in lieu of the audio track. 
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2007 — ''Transformers: The Movie'' — Ultimate Edition (Metrodome) — The Japanese version.

==External links==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTg95728_-8 The Japanese version of the promo on YouTube]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh3wgldJxRM The theatrical version of the promo on YouTube]

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[[Category:Generation 1 media]]

Transformers: G-2 (story page)

2011-12-27T01:38:17Z

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The '''''Transformers: G-2''''' [[story page]]s ran in ''[[TV Magazine]]'' from August 1995 to January 1996. The storyline was written by [[Hidetsugu Yoshioka]] and, aside from a few CG rendered characters, also provided the artwork.

The ''G-2'' story pages continued from where the ''[[Operation Combination (story page)|Operation Combination]]'' storyline left off, taking place within the [[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity|universe of the TV series]]. The ''G-2'' story pages were supplemented by the [[Transformers: G-2 (pack-in manga)|''G-2'' pack-in comics]], which often expanded upon particular battles.

==Issues==
===Part 1===

:''Published:'' '''August, 1995'''

:'''''Confrontation of The Autobots and the Decepticons!'''''

The [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s are (re)introduced. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], now in a new tank body, has the power to manipulate black holes to create the "Black Hole Burn" attack. He yearns to steal the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] and conquer the galaxy. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], now in a missile trailer body, wields the Matrix, which has the power to upgrade all Transformers with new bodies and powers. His attacks are the "Matrix Saturn" and "Gatling Impact Laser"

:'''''A Gathering of Fighting Robots'''''

The [[Laser Rod]] teams ([[Electro]], [[Volt]], [[Sizzle (G2)|Sizzle]] and [[Jolt (G2)|Jolt]]) and the [[Cyberjet]] teams ([[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]], [[Aero Raid]], [[Strafe (G2)|Strafe]], [[Hooligan (G2)|Hooligan]], [[Space Case (G2)|Space Case]] and [[Skyjack]]), the newest additions to the Autobots and Decepticons, are introduced.

{{note|This single story page does not feature art by Hidetsugu Yoshioka. Instead, it boasts CG renderings of Optimus Prime and Megatron battling in a live action setting with actors running around screaming.}}

===Part 2===

:''Published:'' '''September, 1995'''

:'''''G-2 World Genesis: The Six Secrets of the Transformers Completely Explained!!'''''

The origins of the Transformers are covered in six easy steps, going from their creation by the [[Quintesson]]s all the way to the present, with new and mysterious Transformers waiting to be introduced.

:'''''Scoop: Optimus Prime's Strengthening Project Brought to Light!!'''''

Optimus Prime has had [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|many deaths]] and many [[new body|bodies]] over the years. Presented here is a chart of his deaths, resurrections and various appearances up through his new missile trailer mode. But he has a new, mysterious form looming on the horizon. Also included is a smaller chart featuring the many forms of Megatron.

===Part 3===
[[Image:G2AllianceBeginsAndEnds.jpg|right|thumb|250px|]]

:''Published:'' '''October, 1995'''

:'''''The Mysterious Stealth Aircraft Dreadwing is a Decepticon!'''''

The mysterious new warrior known as [[Dreadwing (G2)|Dreadwing]] has allied himself with the Decepticons. However, Dreadwing, a pacifist by nature, has been manipulated by [[Smokescreen (G2)|Smokescreen]]. They intend to obliterate all the warring robots in order to bring peace to the galaxy.

:'''''Autobots vs. Decepticons: Combat Secrets'''''

After his sanity circuits were repaired, Megatron and Optimus Prime adopted [[Action Master]] bodies and formed the [[Cybertron Alliance]] to bring peace to the galaxy. However, Megatron began to believe that if he were sole ruler of the galaxy, he would achieve peace through tyranny. He was eventually pushed over the edge when [[human]] soldiers killed a [[Megatron's dead friend|Decepticon]] unprovoked. Megatron then took on a new tank mode, leaving Prime to adopt a missile trailer mode. And so, the G-2 wars began.

===Part 4===
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:''Published:'' '''November, 1995'''

:'''''Optimus Prime of the Autobots has Fallen!'''''

An Autobot research team, led by [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] and including [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], discovered new properties of the Matrix. As it turns out, the Matrix is a torrent of powerful energy which can give all Transformers super powers.

However, a one-on-one showdown between Optimus Prime and Megatron had begun. Megatron had sworn to take the Matrix from Prime and use it to his own ends. Prime fought valiantly against Megatron, fending off his foe's attacks with his "Double Wheel-Torque Mega-Ton" attack. Unfortunately, Megatron's [[fusion cannon]] triumphed over Prime, killing him.

{{note|The events of "Optimus Prime of the Autobots has Fallen!" are retold in the [[Transformers: G-2 (pack-in manga)|''G-2'' pack-in comic]] issue #13.}}

:'''''The Cyberjets Have Defected to the Autobot Forces!'''''

After serving the Decepticons, three members of the Cyberjets have chosen to battle alongside the Autobots. They are Jetfire, Aero Raid and Strafe.

===Part 5===
[[Image:G2PrimeJustice.jpg|right|thumb|225px|]]

:''Published:'' '''December, 1995'''

:'''''Birth of the New Supreme Commander Battle Convoy!'''''

After a great battle, Optimus Prime was defeated by Megatron. Luckily, the [[Spark|spirit]]s of past Autobot commanders dwelling within the Matrix of Leadership activated the [[Reconfiguration Matrix]] and resurrected Optimus Prime as Battle Convoy, powering him up with a new body in the process. Battle Convoy's power vastly exceeded that of Megatron's. With his new weapon, the [[Cybertonium]] Sword, Battle Convoy crushed Megatron's fusion cannon and rose victorious.

Entering a diagnostic of Battle Convoy's new body, it is explained that the new property of the Matrix discovered by the research team, the Reconfiguration Matrix, has the ability to reformat Prime based on the need of the situation. Battle Convoy's new Laser Rod body features the following stats:

Height: 13 meters
Weight: 13.5 tons

{{note|The events of "Birth of the New Supreme Commander Battle Convoy!" are retold in the [[Transformers: G-2 (pack-in manga)|''G-2'' pack-in comic]] issue #13.}}

===Part 6===
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:''Published:'' '''January, 1996'''

:'''''The Autobots Triumph in the Battle of Good Vs. Evil!'''''

Now understanding the threat of Battle Convoy, Megatron attacks the Autobot headquarters with full force. Battle Convoy challenges Megatron to the [[Heavy Metal War|"Law of Cybertron"]], in which the loser and his forces must retreat to deep space forever. After a grueling fight, Battle Convoy narrowly triumphs. Megatron and the Decepticons retreat to deep space as the badly injured Battle Convoy hobbles off with the aid of Electro and Volt.

==Notes==
*Though Megatron has been vanquished, the Japanese ''G-2'' storyline does not end here! Ten years later, through tech spec bios and pack-in comics written by [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]] and drawn by [[Hidetsugu Yoshioka]], [[e-Hobby]] revived and continued the storyline.
**''G-2'' continues in the [[Galvatron II]] bio, where a Galvatron from [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|an alternate reality]] travels to this timeline, intending to conquer the universe with his fleet of [[Warworld]]s.
**Next, in the [[Laser Rod]] [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] bio, Ultra Magnus uses the [[Reconfiguration Matrix]] within the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to resurrect himself in a new body with which to counter Galvatron II.
**The "[[Hybrid Style Convoy Black Version]]" pack-in comic takes place next, with Optimus Prime donning a new [[Black body]] form to rescue Ultra Magnus from Galvatron II.
**Then, in the "[[MP-1B Cybertron Commander / Convoy Black Ver.]]" pack-in comics, Wheeljack and [[Ga'mede]] use the Black Body technology to create an army of Optimus Prime clones called "[[Eldedroid]]s" to battle the renewed Decepticon forces, now lead by Galvatron II (Megatron being deposed as leader).

==External links==

*[http://tfarchive.com/comics/gallery.php?g2_itemId=14545 ''G-2'' story pages at TFArchive.]
*[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/3681/37/ ''G-2'' story pages at TFPulp.]

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Dungeons & Dinobots

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|next=Do Over
|seriesissue2=''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (fiction)|Transformers: Shattered Glass]]''
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|image=DungeonsandDinobots cover.jpg
|caption=
|title="Dungeons & Dinobots"
|publisher=[[Fun Publications]]
|date=[[December 5]], [[2008]]
|written by=[[Trent Troop]] and [[Greg Sepelak]]
|illustration by=[[Evan Gauntt]]
|cover=[[Evan Gauntt]]
|pagecount=36
|continuity=[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]
}}
'''Following the ''Ark''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s destruction, the new Dinobots are unleashed! But what ancient horror is behind Grimlock's miraculous transformation?'''

==Synopsis==
The [[Decepticon]]s, led by [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]], and the [[Autobot]]s, led by [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]], are battling for control of the [[Arch-Ayr]] fuel dump. [[Sir Soundwave|Soundwave]] arrives with the [[Mayhem Suppression Squad]], forcing the Autobots to withdraw. A thunderous clatter heralds the coming of [[Grimlock (SG)|Grimlock]] and the [[Dinobot (SG)|Dinobots]], controlled by [[Wheeljack (SG)|Wheeljack]]. The mad scientist vows revenge on Optimus Prime. Optimus, however, convinces Wheeljack to use his [[spark|emberless]] monsters against the Decepticons. But when ordered to attack, the Dinobots turn on each other and scatter.

Back at the Autobot base, Optimus vents his anger at [[Blurr (SG)|Blurr]] and [[Side Burn (SG)|Side Burn]]. He orders all available Autobots to bring back the Dinobots for reprograming. Meanwhile, Megatron comes to the same conclusion, sending some top Decepticons after the beasts.

Some time later, [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] and [[Sideswipe (SG)|Sideswipe]] locate [[Slugfest (SG)|Slugfest]] near the [[Rust Sea]]. But the hulking [[Goryu (SG)|Goryu]] comes to the small Dinobot's aid.

Elsewhere, [[Jazz (SG)|Jazz]], [[Goldbug (SG)|Goldbug]], [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]], and [[Blurr (SG)|Blurr]] debate who will climb a tower to retrieve [[Swoop (SG)|Swoop]].

Cliffjumper and Sideswipe finally defeat the two Dinobots and go after an Autobot passing on the horizon. When cornered, [[Huffer (SG)|Huffer]] admits that he's running from Grimlock.

The group of Autobots bring down Swoop, then Blurr and Rodimus respond to a call from Huffer about Grimlock's location.

Cliffjumper and Sideswipe track Grimlock to an old bunker. Sideswipe shows hesitation. This is the place where Optimus had Sideswipe attacked for insubordination after Optimus killed Sideswipe's commander [[Drench (SG)|Drench]]. That conflict also led to Sideswipe's own comrade [[Cliffjumper (SG)|Cliffjumper's]] death. The current Cliffjumper dismisses those concerns and the two descend deep into the tomb-like bunker. While examining funerary hieroglyphics, a booming voice calls, "GET OUT." But the way out is obscured; the tunnels have changed. Continuing on their journey, Cliffjumper injures his leg in a trap.

Rodimus and Blurr arrive at the bunker. Along the way down, they also run into a booby trap. On the other side, they meet up with Cliffjumper and Sideswipe. Cliffjumper and Rodimus inadvertently tumble into a hidden passage, activating yet another hazard.

At that same moment, Blurr and Sideswipe are harassed by [[Mutant (SG)|mutants]].

Rodimus deactivates the crushing trap, and the two fall through the floor. Rodimus realizes that this place is where the Omega Terminus is hiding. He plans to use it to create his own army. On their way, they locate a vial of healing [[scraplet|scraplets]] who eat dead metal.

The mutants cease their pursuit when Blurr and Sideswipe reach the [[Omega Terminus]] chamber. The four meet up again, crossing a narrow bridge over a deep chasm. On the other side, they find Grimlock, who explains in his rudimentary way that a voice guided him to his chamber. A light shoots out of the Omega Terminus, striking Grimlock. The lumbering beast transforms into a robot, suddenly eloquent. To the surprise of the others, he's been granted an ember and a robot mode, along with a great deal of intelligence.

Grimlock proclaims that the Omega Terminus doesn't want the others here. Cliffjumper challenges him, but the Omega Terminus responds. Four corpses are animated, among them, the native Cliffjumper and Drench. Grimlock divulges that the mutants bring the deactivated robots back here so that the Omega Terminus can use them for new life. A battle ensues. The zombies are dispatched with the scraplets and Grimlock falls over the edge into the chasm. The formless voice again instructs them to leave, and the four are only too pleased to obey.

For his failure, Rodimus is sent to [[Ratchet (SG)|Ratchet]] for an upgrade: a new buzzsaw-hand. Blurr reports to Optimus that the Autobots have gathered eight Dinobots. Unannounced, Grimlock enters the room. He offers his services to Optimus while also asserting his independence. This enrages Prime, but Grimlock's intellect impresses the Autobot leader.

Later, Grimlock breaks into the Decepticon corral, promising the Decepticon-captured "Dinocons" a trip to the Omega Terminus...

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters|h2=[[Autobot]]s
|c2=
* [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] (3)
* [[Huffer (SG)|Huffer]] (4)
* [[Hound (SG)|Hound]] (5)
* [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]] (6)
* [[Arcee (SG)|Arcee]] (7)
* [[Grimlock (SG)|Grimlock]] (18)
* [[Wheeljack (SG)|Wheeljack]] (19)
* [[Blurr (SG)|Blurr]] (20)
* [[Side Burn (SG)|Side Burn]] (21)
* [[Jazz (SG)|Jazz]] (23)
* [[Goldbug (SG)|Goldbug]] (24)
* [[Drench (SG)|Drench]] (27)
* [[Cliffjumper (SG)|Cliffjumper]] (28)
* [[Ratchet (SG)|Ratchet]] (29)
|h1=[[Decepticon]]s
|c1=
* [[Starscream (SG)|Starscream]] (1)
* [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]] (2)
* [[Sideswipe (SG)|Sideswipe]] (8)
* [[Gutcruncher (SG)|Gutcruncher]] (9)
* [[Sir Soundwave|Soundwave]] (11)
* [[Crasher (SG)|Crasher]] (12)
* [[Dirge (SG)|Dirge]] (13)
* [[Thundercracker (SG)|Thundercracker]] (14)
* [[Bludgeon (SG)|Bludgeon]] (15)
* [[Carnivac (SG)|Carnivac]] (16)
|c4=
* [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] (10)
* [[Goryu (SG)|Goryu]] (17)
* [[Slugfest (SG)|Slugfest]] (22)
* [[Swoop (SG)|Swoop]] (25)
* [[Omega Terminus]] (26)
}}

==Quotes==
"Fear not, Mega-Dude! This is Soundwave, rockin' the radio from Darkmount, and I bring you joyous tidings! For I have totally called in the cavalry!"
:—'''Soundwave''' is the righteous bearer of good news.

"Shoot it! I can't keep this up forever!" 
"I can't, the [[glass gas]]'ll blow back in my face!" 
"That's a terrible weapon!" 
"Why don't you just beat it to death with a ''missile'' if you're so smart!"
:—'''Sideswipe''' and '''Cliffjumper''' discuss tactics.

"Listen Huffer, you'd better talk. My partner here isn't quite what you'd call sane. He believes in Primus."
:—'''Sideswipe''' gives the Shattered Glass perception of Transformer religious views.

"Me... me... m... m... my... I... iii... I... Griiimm... lock... waaaaannnt... to talk a little bit about the truly fascinating ramifications of directly applied neutronic rearrangement when applied to instantaneous mechanical re-engineering! It is a fascinating subject, particularly in terms of practical application, wot?"
:—'''Grimlock''' goes from stupidly incomprehensible to intelligently incomprehensible.

"LEAVE WITH YOUR LIVES. NEVER RETURN." 
"And if we don't?" 
"YOU ARE OUT OF SCRAPLETS."
:—'''Omega Terminus''' makes a rather persuasive argument to '''Sideswipe'''.

==Notes==
* Something may be going on with Side Burn. Though he speaks like a mirrorverse Side Burn would (gently ranting against "undue attention to females"), there are other indicators that he's not exactly what he seems. He hasn't been with the Autobots long. He's one of the few characters, along with Crasher and Demolishor, who isn't based on someone from Generation 1. Blurr remarks that Side Burn doesn't belong, implying there's something off about him.
* In the original "[[Shattered Glass]]" comic, the Decepticons had never heard of [[Primus]] until Cliffjumper told them about Him. They are shocked to hear the idea that they are the work of a benevolent Creator. By the time of "Dungeons & Dinobots", word of Cliffjumper's "beliefs" has apparently made rounds. The Autobots consider Cliffjumper crazy and laughable for being "Mr. 'The Planet is a God'".

===Errors===
* On page 20, "air" is misspelled as "hair".
* On page 27, "Blurr" is misspelled as "Burr".
* On page 28, "last remnants of his one-time friend was" should be "last remnants of his one-time friend were".
* On page 30, Blurr claims that since the Autobots have captured eight Dinobots, they have an eight hundred percent increase. Before the hunt, they had zero Dinobots. Eight hundred percent of zero is still zero, and if by some chance Grimlock could count as one Dinobot because he was shortly on their side some time ago, then the increase would be seven hundred percent to get up to eight Dinobots.

====Transformer references====
* The [[Mayhem Suppression Squad]] makes its second appearance. They debuted in "[[Shattered Expectations]]".
* With the Dinobots crazed and scattered, and with both teams trying to gather them up, this story calls back to the Marvel UK's "[[Dinobot Hunt!]]", and Megatron names their mission a "Dinobot Hunt!" accordingly.
* Like the ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The Transformers]]'' cartoon continuity, Wheeljack created the Dinobots, except for [[Grimlock (SG)|Grimlock]], who is created by the Decepticons just like ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]'' continuity.
* The code "D-322" etched into the armor on Goryu's hip is a reference to ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (franchise)|Victory]]'' [[Gōryū]]'s [[Japanese ID number list|Japanese ID number]].
* Grimlock gained a remarkable intelligence, just like [[Grimlock (G1)|his counterpart]] in ''The Transformers'' cartoon episode "[[Grimlock's New Brain]]".
* [[Scraplet]]s return, but in this universe they're a healing potion.
* The [[Omega Terminus]] is the mirrorverse version of [[Vector Sigma]].
* A number of ''Shattered Glass'' Autobots are mentioned, including [[Slag (SG)|Slag]], [[Ultra Magnus (SG)|Ultra Magnus]], [[Fixit (SG)|Fixit]], [[Beachcomber (SG)|Beachcomber]], [[Chromedome (SG)|Chromedome]], [[Geronimo (SG)|Geronimo]], [[Blaster (SG)|Blaster]] and [[Hoist (SG)|Hoist]].

====Real-world references====
* [[Gygax]], the location on Cybertron to which Wheeljack was exiled, is named after [[Wikipedia:Gary Gygax|Gary Gygax]], the creator of ''[[Wikipedia:Dungeons & Dragons|Dungeons & Dragons]]''. The name of the text story and several of its settings, themes, and objects are an overt homage to ''Dungeons & Dragons''.
* Grimlock's shift to an intelligent robot closely follows a similar such scene in ''Gremlins 2'', when a Gremlin injected with an intelligence serum immediately declares that "iiiii wwwaaaaaaannnnn....ttto talk about this fascinating phenomenon taking place at this moment."

==External links==
* [http://www.transformersclub.com/members/fiction.cfm Transformers Collectors' Club exclusive fiction] (must be a logged-in member to access)

[[Category:Shattered Glass issues]]
[[Category:Text stories]]

The Omega Effect

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|prev=Skyfire (issue)
|next=Runnin' with the Devil
|title="The Omega Effect"
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|caption=WHO LEFT THE OVEN ON AT MAX?!
|publisher=[[Dreamwave Productions]]
|date=[[April 28]], [[2004]]
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|story=[[James McDonough|Brad Mick]]
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|continuity=[[Dreamwave Generation One continuity|Dreamwave continuity]]
}}

'''Sunstorm and Omega Supreme battle.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] stops to moan about the fact that, long before the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s had come to [[Earth]], more powerful [[Transformer]]s had a way of interfering with his plans. He thinks back to one time when, after executing some of the [[Council of Ancients]], [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] chose to assert his authority as the unquestioned leader of the Decepticons.

In the present, Starscream attempts to escape oppression from the behemoth [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], who has already grabbed the weakened [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. Starscream decides that he has better chances with his clone brother on the loose than being hunted down by the titan Autobot, so he uses his [[null-ray]] to destroy the apparatus that was keeping Sunstorm's power down to manageable levels. Sunstorm quickly reawakens and escapes Omega's grasp.

On [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] becomes frustrated by his casual study of the energy aberration in [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s abandoned laboratory in [[Quadrant Epsilon]], found by the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]]. The study leads to an analysis on the theoretical engineering of [[Vector Sigma]]. [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] communicates with Prowl over a video screen regarding arrangements for the next day's meeting with some other Autobots and advises that Prowl get some rest.

Under rainfall in [[Oregon]], [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] and [[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]] hoist some deactivated Autobots out of the lake where Starscream hid the bodies after they were damaged in the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]]' [[Night of the Combaticons|attack]]. The two Autobots are ambushed by a large number of humans from the [[Earth Defense Command]] led by [[Marissa Faireborn]]. Bumper, being the more level-headed of the two active Autobots, decides that surrender is the best idea.

After the [[Skyfire (issue)|battle against Sunstorm]], [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] drops off [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]], [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] back at the ''[[Orion]]''. Inside, only [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] is still standing to explain that Starscream vandalized the ship as he was escaping.

Starscream's responsibility is the epic showdown outside between Sunstorm and Omega Supreme. The two toss massive amounts of energy at each other, with Omega Supreme winning the standoff, causing the self-righteous psychopath to fall to the ground. Omega Supreme takes a closer look at his (relatively) tiny foe, who now has a clear shot right into Omega Supreme's unprotected face.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
* [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] (4)
* [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] (6)
* [[Powered Convoy (G1)|Powered Convoy]] (7)
* [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] (11)
* [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] (12)
* [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]]* (13)
* [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] (14)
* [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] (15)
* [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] (16)
* [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] (17)
* [[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]] (18)
* [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] (20)
* [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] (21)
* [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] (22)
* [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] (23)
* [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] (24)
* [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] (25)
* [[Seaspray (G1)|Seaspray]] (26)
* [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] (27)
* [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] (28)

|c2=
* [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (1)
* [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] (2)
* [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] (3)
* [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]] (5)
* [[Magnificus (G1)|Magnificus]] (8)
* [[Soundblaster (G1)|Soundblaster]] (9)
* [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] (10)

|c3=
* [[Marissa Faireborn]] (19)
}}

==Notes==
* Marissa introduces herself as Marissa Faireborn'''e''', with an "e" on the end, but later issues give her last name as Fair'''e'''born with the "e" in the middle.
* The title of the story is borrowed from the name of [[wikipedia:DC_Comics|DC Comics]] villain [[wikipedia:Darkseid_(comics)|Darkseid]]'s trademark eye-beams.
* It's ambiguous if the flashback on the opening pages takes place after Starscream hijacked Megatron's plans in ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]'' and destroyed Iacon while Megatron was fighting Optimus, or if it occurs sometime during ''[[Transformers: War Within: The Age of Wrath|War Within: The Age of Wrath]]'' when Starscream killed the remaining elders during his attack on the peace talks and Megatron returned from deep space.
* Bumper makes reference to Bumblebee's underwater skills. That trait is virtually unmentioned outside of his original on-package [[bio]].
* How did the ''Orion'' get to Alaska from Oregon? Well presumably, it flew. Shuttles can do that, you know.

===Reprints===
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==References==
{{reflist}}

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Escape (episode)

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{{disambig3|Escape}}

{{episode
|series=Cybertron
|ep=35
|series2=Galaxy Force
|ep2=36
|title="Escape"
|japanese=それゆけ脱出大作戦
|romaji=Sore Yuke Dasshutsu Daisakusen
|translation=The Big Escape Plan Go
|image=Cyb_ep35_kids_and_minicons.jpg
|caption=
|production code=
|production company=[[TV Aichi]], [[we've|We've]], [[Tōkyū Agency]]
|writer=[[Kenji Sugihara]]
|director=[[Masashi Nagao]]
|animation studio=[[GONZO]]
|airdate=[[September 10]], [[2005]] (Japanese) [[September 7]], [[2006]] (English)
|continuity=[[Unicron Trilogy cartoon timeline|Unicron Trilogy cartoon continuity]]
}}

'''With Sideways on their tail, the kids and the Mini-Cons must navigate the labyrinth of the ''Atlantis'' and alert the Autobots on Cybertron to their plight.'''

==Synopsis==

[[Image:Cyb ep35 jolt gate.jpg|left|thumb|220px]]

In the starship ''[[Atlantis]]'', [[Coby Hansen|Coby]], [[Bud Hansen|Bud]], [[Lori]] and the [[Recon Mini-Con Team]] are confronted by [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]], but are able to quickly escape through one of [[Jolt (Cybertron)|Jolt]]'s [[dimension gate]]s. They teleport to another location within the ship, and begin a plan to shut down the electromagnetic jamming shield that is keeping them from contacting the [[Autobot]]s on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Coby brings up the map of the ''Atlantis'' that he downloaded into his communicator, and the team set off to find the jamming signal controls.

On Cybertron, [[Vector Prime]], [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]] and [[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]] continue to use the base computers to scan for some trace of the kids and Mini-Cons, while the battle between [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]]'s forces continues to rage outside. The only Decepticon not actively getting involved in the fight is [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)|Thunderblast]], who has been ordered to retrieve the [[Omega Lock]] by [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]]. Fearing for her life if she does not complete the mission, the scheming Thunderblast contacts Starscream, who is observing the battle from a safe vantage point out in space, and asks him to come and help her carry the Omega Lock.

[[Image:Cyb_ep35_face_of_foam.jpg|right|thumb|220px]]

Back on the ''Atlantis'', Bud comes up with a very good point: since the kids and Mini-Cons have identified the location of the control room, why are they ''walking'' there instead of warping? Jolt tries to open a warp gate, only to discover that he cannot, at which point Sideways emerges from the shadows and reveals that he has set up an anti-warping energy field within the ship. The team turns to run, but Sideways hurls his sword to block their path, and the kids push their luck, trying to distract Sideways by claiming that [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] is standing behind him. Recalling their previous trick with the hologram, Sideways doesn't fall for it, so they push it even further by claiming Optimus Prime is there instead. While he doesn't buy it for a second, Sideways decides to play along to mock the kids, but he only winds up giving Coby time to use his communicator to activate a fire extinguisher in the roof of the corridor. The extinguisher blinds Sideways with a faceful of foam, and the kids and Mini-Cons all leg it.

[[Image:Cyb_ep35_thunderblast_cowers.jpg|left|thumb|220px]]

Back with the battle on Cybertron, Optimus Prime and [[Overhaul (Cybertron)|Leobreaker]] decide they are took evenly matched against Megatron and [[Nemesis Breaker]], and so they decide to switch up their tactics and pull back. Megatron moves to pursue them, but is shot out of the air by none other than Thunderblast, who then claims Starscream ordered her to do it! Starscream himself promptly arrives, and the two Decepticons are about to fight when Optimus Prime returns with [[Wing Saber (Energon)|Wing Saber]]. As they merge into Sonic Wing Mode, Thunderblast slinks away, exploiting her self-made distraction to make a break for the Omega Lock.

On the ''Atlantis'', Coby downloads his map into Jolt's brain, so the Mini-Con can lead them to their objective quickly. Although they have to drive because of the anti-warp field, they are able to move around comparatively quickly, since Sideways is also unable to warp after them. The team stops in the engine room, where they realized that the ship's self-repair function isn't working, and that Sideways has been fixing up the ship himself, putting an idea in their heads...

[[Image:Escape-Sidewaysmeandrawing.jpg|right|thumb|220px]]

Meanwhile, down on [[Earth]], [[Mudflap (Cybertron)|Mudflap]] despairs over his current situation. Although he is done with the Decepticons, he realizes that he cannot return to the Autobots after his traitorous actions. [[Lugnutz]] observes his passage, and sagely acknowledges his plight, before wondering whatever happened to Starscream. Little does the hipster realize that his former boss is currently battling most of the Autobots on Cybertron!

Back on the ''Atlantis'', Jolt leads the kids to the ship's control room. Well aware that Sideways is waiting for them on the other side of the door, they trigger their plan for the engine room, remotely triggering an explosion there that Sideways heads out to investigate. Once in the engine room, he finds only an insulting doodle scrawled on the wall before the kids, now in the control room, eject him out of the ship through the garbage chute. Unable to warp himself to safety, Sideways is shot out into space and with his threat removed, the kids shut down the jamming signal and make contact with the Autobots on Cybertron.

[[Image:Cyb_ep35_in_the_warp_field.jpg|left|thumb|220px]]

Vector Prime picks up the kids signal and immediately informs Optimus Prime before opening a warp gate to the ''Atlantis'' through which he, Red Alert and Scattorshot depart. Before the gate shuts, however, [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)|Crumplezone]] and [[Ransack (Cybertron)|Ransack]] jump through it after the Autobots. As they appear in space near the ''Atlantis'', they radio Megatron to inform him of their discovery, and the Decepticon leader breaks off the fight on Cybertron, heading for the ''Atlantis'' through a dimension gate of his own.

Starscream, meanwhile, has also left the battle on Cybertron and returns to the ''Atlantis'', calling for Sideways to ready the ship for warp. Sideways, unbeknownst to him, is still drifting through space, so he activates the warp system himself. Realizing what Starscream has done, the kids and Mini-Cons immediately make for the escape pods, while Vector Prime's team prepares to meet them outside. The pods successfully launch but alas, the pod containing Bud, Jolt and [[Reverb (Cybertron)|Reverb]] collides with Sideways's drifting body, and as a result, fails to escape the reach of the ''Atlantis'''s warp field. Megatron and Nemesis Breaker arrive just in time to witness the ship warp away...taking Bud and his two Mini-Con friends with it!

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Reverb (Cybertron)|Reverb]] (2)
*[[Six-Speed]] (3)
*[[Jolt (Cybertron)|Jolt]] (7)
*[[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]] (8)
*[[Vector Prime]] (9)
*[[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]] (10)
*[[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] (12)
*[[Crosswise (Cybertron)|Crosswise]] (15)
*[[Landmine (Energon)|Landmine]] (16)
*[[Wing Saber (Energon)|Wing Saber]] (18)
*[[Override (Cybertron)|Override]] (19)
*[[Evac (Cybertron)|Evac]] (20)
*[[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] (21)
*[[Snarl (Cybertron)|Snarl]] (23)
*[[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] (24)
*[[Overhaul (Cybertron)|Leobreaker]] (27)
*[[Safeguard (Cybertron)|Safeguard]] (31)

|c2=
*[[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] (11)
*[[Crumplezone (Cybertron)|Crumplezone]] (13)
*[[Ransack (Cybertron)|Ransack]] (14)
*[[Scourge (Cybertron)|Scourge]] (17)
*[[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]] (22)
*[[Thunderblast (Decepticon)|Thunderblast]] (25)
*[[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] (26)
*[[Mudflap (Cybertron)|Mudflap]] (28)
*[[Lugnutz]] (29)
*[[Nemesis Breaker]] (30)

|c3=
*[[Coby Hansen]] (4)
*[[Bud Hansen]] (5)
*[[Lori]] (6)

|c4=
*[[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]] (1)
*[[Primus]] (8)
}}

==Quotes==

"Oh no! Optimus Prime?! I'd better completely let my guard down and look! Like I'm gonna fall for that! I'd have to be a complete WAAAGH!"
:—'''Sideways''' is, in fact, a complete waaagh.

"Forget about holding your own in ''this'' battle! This time you're taking the express train to Loserville!" 
"Oh ''please''. 'The express train to Loserville'?"
:—'''Wing Saber's''' battle-cry gets critiqued by '''Optimus'''

"Another malfunction in the engine room? Slaggit! This is the crummiest evil hideout ''ever''!"
:—'''Sideways''' reacts to the kids' sabotage.

"Aw, now that's just mean!"[[Image:Cyb_ep35_wheeeeee.jpg|right|thumb|220px]]
:—'''Sideways''' is not impressed with the kids' drawing of him.

"Why do they care about those annoying kids anyway?" 
"I think they know stuff about that Omega Block thingy." 
"So, if we told Megatron where they are, maybe he'd give us a big reward!" 
"Maybe he'd even make us co-rulers of the universe!" 
"We could crush anyone we wanted!" 
"Or have your people do our crushing for us!" 
"Aw, Ransack, you used to be all about the crushing! Now look at you!"
:—'''Crumplezone''' and '''Ransack''' let power go to their heads.
{{--}}

==Notes==
===Differences with ''Galaxy Force''===
*''Galaxy Force'' includes a "previously on" segment that summarizes the events of "[[Memory]]".
*''Galaxy Force'' has Coby actively radio Vector Prime to let them know they are boarding the escape pods, while ''Cybertron'' has Vector Prime determine this independently by tracking the signal of Coby's communicator. Not exactly drowning in differences, this episode!

===Animation or technical errors===
*Thunderblast's voice is once again ''very'' heavily amplified in this episode.
*Ransack's voice is changed to Thunderblast's voice when he tries to destroy Landmine and Crosswise.

===Continuity or plotting errors===
*Sideways spends the vast majority of this episode just standing around when he could be doing things. It takes the kids and Mini-Cons five whole seconds to get through Jolt's warp gate, and he just stands there and watches it happen, and when he confronts them in the hallway soon after, he ''just stands there'' and lets them plot instead of, I don't know, just ''stepping on them'', or something.

===Transformers references===
*Thunderblast refers to Starscream with the nickname "Screamer", an epithet used to refer to the [[Starscream (G1)|original Starscream]] in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] episodes "[[Fire on the Mountain]]" and "[[B.O.T. (episode)|B.O.T.]]". The nickname is used much more frequently in the [[fandom]] than it ever is in official material, to refer to all the different [[Starscream (disambiguation)|Starscreams]] down the years.

===Real-world references===
* "Wherever you go, there you are," Lugnutz comments, quoting the title of the book by [[Wikipedia: Jon Kabat-Zinn|Jon Kabat-Zinn]], and/or [[Wikipedia:The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension|Buckaroo Banzai]].
* In addition to mistakenly calling the Omega Lock the "Omega Block" (as quoted above), another of Ransack's misnomers for the device is the "Elmyra Lock", apparently referencing the [[Wikipedia:Elmyra Duff|character of the same name]] from ''[[Wikipedia:Tiny Toon Adventures|Tiny Toon Adventures]]''!

===Trivia===
* This episode is remarkably over-padded, even for ''Cybertron''. The random Autobot fights with the Decepticons, already essentially filler, is padded even more by the addition of several stock transformation sequences. Starscream's full transformation sequence is shown twice, as is Sonic Wing Mode's. In fact, Optimus Prime separates from Wing Saber to converse with Vector Prime, and then initiates the combination ''again'' only 50 seconds later.
* Nemesis Breaker makes one of his two exceedingly rare non-stock-footage appearances in robot mode this episode. The other is in "[[Warp]]".

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;DVD
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2006 — ''Transformers: Galaxy Force'' — Vol. 09 ([[Victor Entertainment]]) — Japanese audio only. 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2008 — ''Transformers: Cybertron'' — The Ultimate Collection ([[Paramount Pictures|Paramount]])

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Shelfwarmer

2011-12-22T07:58:23Z

24.58.224.22: /* Shelfwarmers in Generation 1 */

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[[Image:ShelfwarmersTRUGermany.jpg|right|300px|thumb|You ''know'' something is wrong when you see toys from no fewer than ''four'' different lines, released several years apart, all side by side on the same store shelf.]]
'''Shelfwarmer''' is the colloquial term for a toy or product that either fails to sell well or is over-produced, leaving residual quantities on store shelves for months or even years after its original release, generally far in excess of other toys from the same [[wave]]s. Just like a "benchwarmer" in sports, one who contributes nothing to the game except sitting on a bench and keeping it warm with his butt, a "shelfwarmer" does the same thing to a toy store shelf by sitting on it for prolonged periods of time.

A related term is '''pegwarmer''', used to refer to toys packaged on cards which thereby hang on pegs, rather than in boxes.

==Shelfwarmers and ''you''==
The inherent problem with just coming up with a list of shelfwarmers is that it varies drastically from locality to locality. Some toys will sell like gangbusters in one state or country, yet warm shelves forever in other places. On occasion, a toy that's considered rare and hard to find in the United States can very well end up as a shelfwarmer in other countries (''Energon'' [[Ultra Magnus (Energon)|Ultra Magnus]] is a rather infamous example of this.) Usually this is due to the toy being only shipped to US stores in limited quantities, often even getting [[Shortpacking|shortpacked]] while European stores get those toys in solid [[case]]s, with nothing but multiples of the same one or two toys.

Toys might even shelfwarm based on the store to which they're distributed, disappearing instantly in [[Target]] but sitting for months in [[Walmart]].

This all has led to some heated (or at least obstinate) debates online over which toys are/were vicious shelfwarmers. But even then, nearly everyone agrees that [[Injector]] just wouldn't go away until he was marked down to only a buck.

==Supply vs. demand==
As was touched upon earlier, there are some toys which were very hard to get in some regions but available so freely in others that they warmed some very cold shelves. Certain toys were in desperate demand in the fandom when they were difficult to get, but didn't do so well when released more widely. One online example of this phenomenon is [[Battle Unicorn]]. This ''[[Beast Machines (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' toy was part of the very last wave of that series' product and was thus barely shipped to retailers. As such, it was ''very'' hard to get. It was so rare, in fact, that the online store Big Bad Toy Store made a large special order for them from Hasbro — but despite the [[fandom]]'s previous clamouring for the toy, they're still sitting on a lot of that stock.

The original releases of ''[[Alternators]]'' [[Tracks (G1)|Autobot Tracks]] and [[Jazz (G1)/toys|Meister]], which only shipped in two [[wave]]s each, also demanded a high rise in aftermarket prices... until Hasbro decided to re-release them as part of a semi-relaunch of the ''Alternators'' line. Now, Tracks and Meister suddenly became major shelfwarmers.

A similar thing happened with ''Alternators'' [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]]: In North America, he was released only at the San Diego Comic Con and via the [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] website for the few people who were able to get him from there, and so was very difficult to get. Fans of the ''Alternators'' line who desperately wanted the toy were furious about its release only at a non-Transformers [[convention]] and complained at length about it not being easily available. Then suddenly the toy turned up in Australia. It hit the retail store Toyworld in massive numbers, and at half the price of usual Alternators. But... no one there wanted it. The American fans had gotten over it by that point, and no one in Australia gave a damn.

Boy, did that thing sit around for ''ages''. It was still available in some stores as of September 2009!

==Shelfwarmers in Generation 1==
The toy industry and the [[fandom]] were very different things during the original toy line's run. Due to the much much slower turnaround time on retail toy shelves in the '80s, any given toy could stay on the shelves for two, three, or even four years and this would be a sign not of shelfwarming, but of the toy's longevity and success. Toys like Optimus Prime and Starscream stayed on the toy shelves for many years because they '''were''' popular, not because they weren't, with chains getting new shipments of older product on a regular basis. This makes it hard to gauge if there were shelfwarmers compared to the toys in modern lines, which are only meant to have a shelf life of a few months.

That said, there certainly were some Transformers which stayed on toy shelves during Generation 1 for way longer than should have been expected. The most prominent example would be the [[Jumpstarter|Jumpstarters]], over-produced in such numbers that even today they are legion in the aftermarket. The smaller [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] were also seen to hang around on shelves long after they had ceased to ship. During the 1986 and 1987 Christmas shopping seasons, animal-based Transformers such as [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]]s, the Decepticon [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]s, and the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacon]]s, were known to linger on shelves longer than their more popular vehicular counterparts.

==Shelfwarmers in ''Beast Wars''==
It was ''[[Beast Wars (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' that stuck the concept of shelfwarmers in the fandom's head. The fandom was maturing, communicating thanks to the internet, and starting to notice these sorts of patterns. At the same time, the attitude of retailers (and the distribution system as well as a consequence) was changing and toys no longer had the multi-year shelf lives they had in the 1980s. Toys now shipped in multiple [[wave]]s per [[size class]] and toys that were on the shelves an entire year were suddenly unsuccessful.

Toys that were noted for their abnormally high shelfwarming capacity in ''Beast Wars'' included [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]], [[Injector]], [[Scavenger (BW)|Scavenger]] and [[Transquito]]. Some reports even had Transquitos holding six or seven years after their initial release. Now ''that's'' a shelfwarmer.

==Shelfwarmers in later series==
[[Image:ShelwarmerTRUWheelie.jpg|thumb|150px|left|The same German TRU store as in the photo above, two years later. Generations? Hunt for the Decepticons? Why, buy ROTF Wheelie instead! Still plenty left!]]
As fandom became more aware of the concept of shelfwarmers, [[Hasbro]] changed its production strategies to avoid both the reality of toys sitting around for months, and the ''perception'' of certain toys as 'warmers. (Because any toy which clogs shelves must suck, right?) Toys had progressively shorter shelf lives, so Hasbro leveraged their [[mold]]s by adding [[redeco]]s and [[retool]]s, and by revamping lines and packaging on a much swifter basis to sell more of the same toy. ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' had "[[The Unicron Battles]]" as a [[subline imprint]] with a new packaging style roughly halfway through its lifespan, and then the entire line became ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' six months after that. Turnover times have become swifter and swifter.

Due to fans' impatience, the term "shelfwarmer" has started to become more specialized to mean "toys that stay on the shelves longer than their casemates," regardless of whether they've really been there a long time. That said, there are still some toys that just don't sell, even in the more recent Transformers franchises. In addition, as we said before, distribution is slightly different in other countries than it is in the USA so some toys don't necessarily ''have'' any casemates to be judged against. For example, ''Armada'' [[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]], ''[[Movie (toyline)|Movie]]'' [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]] and [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]] ended up as royal shelfwarmers in many European stores because they were the ''only'' toys from their respective [[Size class|size classes]] those stores would ever get from Hasbro. It didn't help that the latter two shipped after the movie line nominally ended.

Each series has had its own quintessential shelfwarmers. In North America, ''Armada'' clogged shelves with flocks of [[Laserbeak (Armada)|Laserbeaks]] and fleets of [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Smokescreens]]. ''Energon'' made sure there was no shortage of [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]]. ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' gave us unmoving armies of [[Mudflap (Cybertron)|Mudflaps]], who often stayed on the shelf long enough to sit beside their [[redeco]], the first movie [[Mudflap (Movie)|Mudflap]] (''itself'' a shelfwarmer). In the [[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)| Universe toy line]], any of the ''Cybertron'' redecos stayed on shelves for years on end, and you can still find [[Dropshot (Universe)| Dropshots]] on the shelf at some Walmarts.

With the [[Transformers (2007)|2007 ''Transformers'' movie]], the playing field was changed slightly. Suddenly, Transformers were '''big''' again. Toys were in short supply and any toys that stayed on the shelves for very long did so very conspicuously. During the Christmas shopping period following the 2007 movie, [[Payload (Movie)|Payload]]s could be found in hordes, even as ''everything'' else Transformers (including leftover ''Cybertron'' and ''Classics'' stock) was disappearing from shelves.

Then the fickle movie hype ended. Toys which were incredibly popular months before suddenly were out of the public consciousness. This meant, depending on your region and availability, that some of the later 2007 movie toys might as well have been glued to the shelf, and in some cases shared it with their new 2009 counterparts. After all, would you rather have the original Leader Class [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] or the super duper shiny ''new'' one from ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]?'' Further, despite his starring role in ROTF, Deluxe Class [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] and his "Tuner" redeco has been known to warm every peg in the Transformers section, like both Mudflaps before it.

==Names commonly associated with shelfwarmers==
For whatever reason, toys named "[[Mudflap (disambiguation)|Mudflap]]" tend to end up as shelfwarmers regardless of the sculpt: ''[[Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' Voyager Class [[Mudflap (Cybertron)|Mudflap]], the first toy using the name, started the trend, which was continued by his [[redeco]], ''[[Movie (toyline)|Movie]]'' [[Mudflap (Movie)|Mudflap]] (thus accompanying his ''Cybertron'' predecessor on many a store shelf). ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' gave us a [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] [[character]] with multiple toy incarnations: Deluxe Class Mudflap generally moved more slowly than his [[The Twins|twin]] brother, [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]], from the same assortment. Likewise, [[Fast Action Battlers]] Grapple Grip Mudflap was easier to find than Missile Blast Skids, and things got even worse with the Deluxe Class Mudflap redeco, Tuner Mudflap, a ''colossal'' shelfwarmer. Presumably, the only reason [[Human Alliance]] Mudflap didn't share the same fate was the fact that the toy was stocked in low numbers by stores in the first place, thus ironically making this particular toy hard to find.

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