Talk:Cybertron (planet)

2011-06-29T13:38:45Z

4.254.83.116: /* Movie Continuity */

I'll gladly get to work adding the Unicron Trilogy version of Cybertron if you guys actually want it here. -BC

Wasn't signed in when I added it, but anyhoo... I see the entry for the animated series has been removed on the grounds that it was copied over from Wikipedia. Now, that makes perfect sense, only... I actually ''wrote'' the article as it appears on Wikipedia. So, it's still my original work that I'm transplanting here. Yes? No? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

:Oh! Yeah, that's totally fine then. Sorry for the mixup, I just had no way of knowing it was you, or your own work. :) In that case you can put it back. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 20:48, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, I forgot to sign in when I added it, so that was dumb of me. :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't the DoE set mention Moonbase Four? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== Location, Location, Location ==
Is Shaula in Alpha Centauri? If not that location needs to be moved out of the general intro info and down to Marvel Comics, Right? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 19:11, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
: Shaula is 700 ly distant and Ac is 4, so... no.
: IMO, the Alpha Centauri thing is common eenough to merit being on top. Maybe with a caveat- ''Due to its spacefaring nature in the distant past, Cybertron's location varies in different continuities, but it is frequrntly round in Alpha Centauri''.
: IDW isn't the only reason to force AC out of beign a blanket statement anyway- Cybertrow as in another ''galaxy'' in the Armada comics (and cartoon... I think.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:20, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

== Movie Continuity ==

The Risk game is set in the movie continuity, and gives us a map (of sorts) of that version of Cybertron based mostly on the DK guide, but with some verriation. Does anyone have the game yet, to give us a run-down of all the locations and there general placement (and any other releveant info contained therin? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 11:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

:I keep claiming dibs on writing the Risk article since I have the game, but I am lame. It is time I got around to it, but if somebody beats me to it then that's great too. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 03:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Optimus Prime's visual flashback showing Megatron on Cybertron in the movie. With the constant furnace like lava flows(?) and apparently transforming landscape, is this a representation of Cybertron (or a part of it) in the movie continuity, or just Op being a big metaphor lover.

*Anyone else notice the movie Cybertron section contains very little about Cybertron itself, instead summarizing (though not in a short way) the events of the movies and comics? I know there isn't much known, but this info seems to be misplaced... the events that happened there are hardly a description of Cybertron itself. -- [[User:Cliffjumper prime|Cliffjumper prime]] 11:42, 18 March 2010 (EDT)

OK, saw Dark of the Moon and it has lots of scenes with Cybertron, both long ago and in present day. In that film it appears to be twice the diameter of Earth and with a hollow surface composed of multiple honeycombed layers of both hexagons and octagons. Some of the largest segments are about the size of continents(!) Should these layers continue down throughout the planet, that would allow it to be that size but not so massive as to have an especially large gravity. I don't think a solid world that size would be physically impossible (after a certain mass a solid body would implode into white-dwarf-like matter if not neutronium or a singularity), but the hollow nature lets it be both big, but with an acceptable gravitational pull. So, how should the new info about the planet be added to this article? Any usable screenshots yet?

==Locations list==
The top of the article is not an appropriate place to put a list of random locations that happen to have articles. Further, [[Mass Transit System]] isn't a "location". For the time being I've simply moved the list to the bottom of the page, but it is still not an appropriate way of presenting the list. We already have [[:Category:Planet Cybertron]], so honestly I don't see the need to list these places at all unless they are going to come up naturally in the course of the article. (In a similar vein, the mention of the demons seems really out of place, as if it was put there simply for the sake of linking to that article, rather than linking to the article in the course of mentioning it.) --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

== spelling ==

If セイバートロン isn't [[Romanization|romanized]] as 'Seibertron,' fine, but shouldn't the footnote at least include that even though "セイバートロン" and "サイバートロン" are both frequently r2omanized as 'Cybertron'—and thus 'Seibertron' isn't correct per-se... the '''are''' two are still spelled differently in Japan? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::I debated about how to handle that, because, strictly speaking, this is not a spelling issue but a ''pronunciation'' issue. Like "bass" (the guitar) and "bass" (the fish), they're words that are spelled the same but pronounced differently... uh, [[wikipedia:Heteronym(linguistics)|heteronyms]]. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 00:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I am sure セイバートロン couldn't be a pronunciation of ''Cybertron''. It could be "Sabertron", "Seibatron", "Seibertron"... and others. ''[[Romanization|Darn]]''. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 00:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, that is the other issue at hand: we have that "セイバートロン" is written "Cybertron" in English from three different sources (Headmasters game, laserdisc, Galaxy Force packaging), so I don't think we can ignore that. I will say, though, that the issue of Japan writing things in English one way and having people pronounce them another way is not unique to this situation... it crops up in Capcom's Mega Man/Rockman enemies, for example. Despite his name being "Bomb Man" in written English, the katakana for the character's name reads "Bomber Man" (ボンバーマン); the same situation exists for "Centuar Man", whose name in katakana actually reads "Kentauros Man" (ケンタウロスマン). It's not an issue of not ''being able'' to derive "seibaatoron" from "Cybertron", as I see it. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 01:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Talking about the laser disc, that reminds me something. The Planet Cybertron is called Cybertron(''Saibatoron'') instead of ''Seibatoron'' in the Japanese dub of 4th season. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 14:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== New Kaon ==

How can New Kaon be on Cybertron?
If its a Decepticon refuge place where they go to get away from Autobots why would it be on an Autobot planet?
I'm new to Transformers so can someone explain it.
*I believe it's on some kind of asteroid. Nearly certain it was confirmed in The Arrival [[User:Eire]] 14 April 23.09 (UTC)

*You mean the comic which one I have all of them but the 6th. --[[User:TransformerChick|TransformerChick]] 18:27, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

* I just checked to be sure and all it says is its on the galactic rim. --[[User:TransformerChick|TransformerChick]] 18:36, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

== Toys ==

Am I missing something: Why is the Cybertron Primus toy under Generation One, was it repurposed or something?
[[Special:Contributions/86.177.132.190|86.177.132.190]] 13:16, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:Like it says in the article: "Primus was developed by Hasbro and Takara as a toy for their joint Cybertron/Galaxy Force toylines, but was released in Japan in the Generation 1 line a few months after Galaxy Force had ended its run." --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:18, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
::I'm confused as well. Was Japan releasing toys under a "Generation 1" toyline in 2006? Or was the toyline called something else? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:37, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:::I ''think'' it's that Primus was released in the same packaging as was being used for G1 re-issues? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:54, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
::::[http://www.hlj.com/product/TAK66912 It looks like] it uses the logo for [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]. So is this another addition to that toyline after 21 years? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:15, 28 March 2010 (EDT)

== References: Animals? ==

From the article:

"If the assorted colourful exclamations made by numerous Transformers are anything to go by, Cybertron also played host to a vast array of fauna, including but not limited to: ant-droids, bolt-bats, cyber-ducks, dynametal ducks, electro-toads, glitch mice, guineapigatrons, helio-hamsters, hydro-weasels, photovoltaic pussycats, retrorats, robo-rats, sheepacrons, titanium moosebots, turbofoxes, zap-mice robotopossums."

Some of these have their own pages, but a bunch of them aren't mentioned elsewhere (electro-toads, helio-hamsters, hydro-weasels, photovoltaic pussycats, robo-rats, sheepacrons) and bring up no hits except this wiki on a web search. Does anyone have references for their origin? Thanks.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 08:48, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:Heck, I think I can do most of these off the top of my head! Let's see... electro-toads are from "[[Atlantis, Arise!]]" ("Traitorous electro-toad!"), and so are hydro-weasels ("You treacherous hydro-weasel!"), photovoltaic pussycats from "[[Changing Gears]]" ("A real photovoltaic pussycat!"), robo-rats from "[[Sea Change]]" ("Ohhh, robo-rats!"), and sheepacrons from "[[The Master Builders]]" ("Ol' Powerglide just spotted your lost sheepacrons!"). Helio-hamsters... eludes me... - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:10, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:Ah-ha, was able to find it; it's from "[[Day of the Machines]]", when Hound laments that he and his teammates are "caged like helio-hamsters at the Cybertron Zoo." - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:14, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
::You're weird, sir! [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 09:22, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:::No argument! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:41, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

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