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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Kibble&amp;diff=97090</id>
		<title>Talk:Kibble</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;64.109.166.197: /* Jargon category */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Would &#039;Undercarriage junk&#039; fit in here?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is it important enough to warrant a mention?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I mean, it DOES plague pretty much every jet Transformer to some degree.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Jargon category==&lt;br /&gt;
I would really like there to be a category for fandom jargon, such as [[kibble]], [[shellformer]], and so on. I would just &amp;quot;be bold&amp;quot; (as they asy on Wikipedia), but I confess that I&#039;m not sure what the best name for this category should be (&amp;quot;fan[dom] jargon&amp;quot;? &amp;quot;collector slang&amp;quot;??), nor what supercategory it would fit in. Anyone have suggestions? --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 20:56, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:If memory serves, the low limit to category contents is just three, and we have well over three articles that could qualify.  I&#039;m generally opposed to overcategorization, but this idea would be a handy idea to decipher the meaning of some of those entries without having to actually read the article.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Not that people shouldn&#039;t read the articles.--[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 21:30, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, I on&#039;t know how it would help decipher the meaning of those entries without having to read the article, but it would be a useful aid for newbies who want to brush up on terminology. I confess that I sometimes have trouble with the articles (and even more trouble with &#039;&#039;In Space, No One Can Hear Starscream&#039;&#039; ;) ) --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 23:53, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::The low-limit to category contents is EIGHT.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:36, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think for non-character articles, we can be a little lenient. I mean, we made the &amp;quot;eight&amp;quot; rule so every minor subgroup ever wouldn&#039;t be Categorized unnecessarily. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh, also, I suggest the name for the Category be as simple and direct as possible. &amp;quot;Fan terminology&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Fan terms&amp;quot;, which would probably fall under the &amp;quot;Fandom&amp;quot; Category itself. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Is there a reason that the already-existing [[:Category:Fandom]] isn&#039;t good enough?  If we push fan terms into a subcategory, we&#039;ll have to decide which words are &amp;quot;fan terms&amp;quot; as opposed to design, manufacturing or marketing terms that fans use all the time.  Where does &amp;quot;gimmick&amp;quot; go, for example?  (Now that I look at it, maybe gimmick shouldn&#039;t even be in the fandom category at all, but just under [[:Category:Toys]] like the articles about different types of joints.  I dunno.)  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:55, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My suggestion is more controvercial than I had expected! I&#039;m a newbie here, and unaquainted with your customs. But, see, that&#039;s exactly why I would like such a category: it would make it easier for people like me, who enjoy Transformers but have never been part of the fandom community, to learn about terminology. It doesn&#039;t seem like it makes sense to write a glossary page for all the technical terms, but a category page would be a very easy way to get all the words in one go. --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 20:45, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:And I suspect it wouln&#039;t be that hard to find eight articles on this sort of terminology, especially if you include things like [[redeco]], and even iffy items like [[army building]] (not exclusive to transformers fandom, but still an important term), and even the above-mentioned [[gimmick]] (an every day word, yes, but it has a specialized meaning in TF circles). --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 21:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I ask again, directing my question to you, 64.109.166.197: What is it about [[:Category:Fandom]] that makes you feel it isn&#039;t serving this purpose already?  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 23:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, I&#039;m hoping for something purely lexical. Things like [[Fox Kids]], [[Fan fiction]], and [[The Official Transformers Collectors Convention]] refer to things, rather than terms (except possibly &amp;quot;fan fiction,&amp;quot; but that&#039;s pretty damn ubiquitous). These are currently in [[:Category:Fandom]], but would not be in my proposed category. Likewise, there would not be lists of notable people, e.g. [[Chris McFeely]], [[Raksha]], [[Ben Yee]] (again, all in [[:Category:Fandom]]), or useful miscellanious information such as [[Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers]]. It would simply be a list of words and expressions. You raise the point that some terms are borderline, but I would suggest that in most cases it won&#039;t be too hard to make a decision (and heck, if it were up to me, marketing terms would have their own category too).&lt;br /&gt;
:::Speaking for myself I know I would find a &amp;quot;Fan terminology&amp;quot; category appealing, and more useful than [[:Category:Fandom]] as it currently stands. And there may well be other readers (anonymous or registered) who agree with me.  If this were wikipedia, I have no doubt such a reorganization would be considered a Good Idea. But of course this is &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; wikipedia, and you have every right to do things differently (the difference in writing style, I confess, is one of my favorite features of this wiki). If I read the discussion between M Sipher and Steve-o correctly, the consensus here is that it&#039;s better to have the categories be too vague than too numerous. As I have no history in this comunity, I can&#039;t really offer an informed opinion as to whether or not my proposal would upset your categorization scheme too much. I will have to leave the decision up to you regulars. But I do think [[:Category:Fandom]] would not be hurt, and could ineed benefit from some subcategorization. --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 23:48, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Kibble&amp;diff=97089</id>
		<title>Talk:Kibble</title>
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		<updated>2007-10-28T23:50:01Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;64.109.166.197: /* Jargon category */ fixing minor errors&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Would &#039;Undercarriage junk&#039; fit in here?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is it important enough to warrant a mention?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I mean, it DOES plague pretty much every jet Transformer to some degree.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Jargon category==&lt;br /&gt;
I would really like there to be a category for fandom jargon, such as [[kibble]], [[shellformer]], and so on. I would just &amp;quot;be bold&amp;quot; (as they asy on Wikipedia), but I confess that I&#039;m not sure what the best name for this category should be (&amp;quot;fan[dom] jargon&amp;quot;? &amp;quot;collector slang&amp;quot;??), nor what supercategory it would fit in. Anyone have suggestions? --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 20:56, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:If memory serves, the low limit to category contents is just three, and we have well over three articles that could qualify.  I&#039;m generally opposed to overcategorization, but this idea would be a handy idea to decipher the meaning of some of those entries without having to actually read the article.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Not that people shouldn&#039;t read the articles.--[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 21:30, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::The low-limit to category contents is EIGHT.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:36, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think for non-character articles, we can be a little lenient. I mean, we made the &amp;quot;eight&amp;quot; rule so every minor subgroup ever wouldn&#039;t be Categorized unnecessarily. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh, also, I suggest the name for the Category be as simple and direct as possible. &amp;quot;Fan terminology&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Fan terms&amp;quot;, which would probably fall under the &amp;quot;Fandom&amp;quot; Category itself. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Is there a reason that the already-existing [[:Category:Fandom]] isn&#039;t good enough?  If we push fan terms into a subcategory, we&#039;ll have to decide which words are &amp;quot;fan terms&amp;quot; as opposed to design, manufacturing or marketing terms that fans use all the time.  Where does &amp;quot;gimmick&amp;quot; go, for example?  (Now that I look at it, maybe gimmick shouldn&#039;t even be in the fandom category at all, but just under [[:Category:Toys]] like the articles about different types of joints.  I dunno.)  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:55, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My suggestion is more controvercial than I had expected! I&#039;m a newbie here, and unaquainted with your customs. But, see, that&#039;s exactly why I would like such a category: it would make it easier for people like me, who enjoy Transformers but have never been part of the fandom community, to learn about terminology. It doesn&#039;t seem like it makes sense to write a glossary page for all the technical terms, but a category page would be a very easy way to get all the words in one go. --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 20:45, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:And I suspect it wouln&#039;t be that hard to find eight articles on this sort of terminology, especially if you include things like [[redeco]], and even iffy items like [[army building]] (not exclusive to transformers fandom, but still an important term), and even the above-mentioned [[gimmick]] (an every day word, yes, but it has a specialized meaning in TF circles). --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 21:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I ask again, directing my question to you, 64.109.166.197: What is it about [[:Category:Fandom]] that makes you feel it isn&#039;t serving this purpose already?  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 23:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, I&#039;m hoping for something purely lexical. Things like [[Fox Kids]], [[Fan fiction]], and [[The Official Transformers Collectors Convention]] refer to things, rather than terms (except possibly &amp;quot;fan fiction,&amp;quot; but that&#039;s pretty damn ubiquitous). These are currently in [[:Category:Fandom]], but would not be in my proposed category. Likewise, there would not be lists of notable people, e.g. [[Chris McFeely]], [[Raksha]], [[Ben Yee]] (again, all in [[:Category:Fandom]]), or useful miscellanious information such as [[Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers]]. It would simply be a list of words and expressions. You raise the point that some terms are borderline, but I would suggest that in most cases it won&#039;t be too hard to make a decision (and heck, if it were up to me, marketing terms would have their own category too).&lt;br /&gt;
:::Speaking for myself I know I would find a &amp;quot;Fan terminology&amp;quot; category appealing, and more useful than [[:Category:Fandom]] as it currently stands. And there may well be other readers (anonymous or registered) who agree with me.  If this were wikipedia, I have no doubt such a reorganization would be considered a Good Idea. But of course this is &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; wikipedia, and you have every right to do things differently (the difference in writing style, I confess, is one of my favorite features of this wiki). If I read the discussion between M Sipher and Steve-o correctly, the consensus here is that it&#039;s better to have the categories be too vague than too numerous. As I have no history in this comunity, I can&#039;t really offer an informed opinion as to whether or not my proposal would upset your categorization scheme too much. I will have to leave the decision up to you regulars. But I do think [[:Category:Fandom]] would not be hurt, and could ineed benefit from some subcategorization. --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 23:48, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Kibble&amp;diff=97088</id>
		<title>Talk:Kibble</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Kibble&amp;diff=97088"/>
		<updated>2007-10-28T23:48:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;64.109.166.197: /* Jargon category */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Would &#039;Undercarriage junk&#039; fit in here?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is it important enough to warrant a mention?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I mean, it DOES plague pretty much every jet Transformer to some degree.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Jargon category==&lt;br /&gt;
I would really like there to be a category for fandom jargon, such as [[kibble]], [[shellformer]], and so on. I would just &amp;quot;be bold&amp;quot; (as they asy on Wikipedia), but I confess that I&#039;m not sure what the best name for this category should be (&amp;quot;fan[dom] jargon&amp;quot;? &amp;quot;collector slang&amp;quot;??), nor what supercategory it would fit in. Anyone have suggestions? --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 20:56, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:If memory serves, the low limit to category contents is just three, and we have well over three articles that could qualify.  I&#039;m generally opposed to overcategorization, but this idea would be a handy idea to decipher the meaning of some of those entries without having to actually read the article.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Not that people shouldn&#039;t read the articles.--[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 21:30, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::The low-limit to category contents is EIGHT.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:36, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think for non-character articles, we can be a little lenient. I mean, we made the &amp;quot;eight&amp;quot; rule so every minor subgroup ever wouldn&#039;t be Categorized unnecessarily. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh, also, I suggest the name for the Category be as simple and direct as possible. &amp;quot;Fan terminology&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Fan terms&amp;quot;, which would probably fall under the &amp;quot;Fandom&amp;quot; Category itself. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Is there a reason that the already-existing [[:Category:Fandom]] isn&#039;t good enough?  If we push fan terms into a subcategory, we&#039;ll have to decide which words are &amp;quot;fan terms&amp;quot; as opposed to design, manufacturing or marketing terms that fans use all the time.  Where does &amp;quot;gimmick&amp;quot; go, for example?  (Now that I look at it, maybe gimmick shouldn&#039;t even be in the fandom category at all, but just under [[:Category:Toys]] like the articles about different types of joints.  I dunno.)  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:55, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My suggestion is more controvercial than I had expected! I&#039;m a newbie here, and unaquainted with your customs. But, see, that&#039;s exactly why I would like such a category: it would make it easier for people like me, who enjoy Transformers but have never been part of the fandom community, to learn about terminology. It doesn&#039;t seem like it makes sense to write a glossary page for all the technical terms, but a category page would be a very easy way to get all the words in one go. --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 20:45, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:And I suspect it wouln&#039;t be that hard to find eight articles on this sort of terminology, especially if you include things like [[redeco]], and even iffy items like [[army building]] (not exclusive to transformers fandom, but still an important term), and even the above-mentioned [[gimmick]] (an every day word, yes, but it has a specialized meaning in TF circles). --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 21:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I ask again, directing my question to you, 64.109.166.197: What is it about [[:Category:Fandom]] that makes you feel it isn&#039;t serving this purpose already?  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 23:07, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, I&#039;m hoping for something purely lexical. Things like [[Fox Kids]], [[Fan fiction]], and [[The Official Transformers Collectors Convention]] refer to things, rather than terms (except possibly &amp;quot;fan fiction,&amp;quot; but that&#039;s pretty damn ubiquitous). These are currently in [[:Category:Fandom]], but would not be in my proposed category. Likewise, there would not be lists of notable people, e.g. [[Chris McFeely]], [[Raksha]], [[Ben Yee]] (again, all in [[:Category:Fandom]]), or useful miscellanious information such as [[Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers]]. It would simply be a list of words and expressions. You raise the point that some terms are borderline, but I would suggest that in most cases it won&#039;t be too hard to make a decision (and heck, if it were up to me, marketing terms would have their own vocabulary too).&lt;br /&gt;
:::Speaking for myself I know I would find a &amp;quot;Fan terminology&amp;quot; appealing, and more useful than [[:Category:Fandom]] as it currently stands. And there may well be other readers (anonymous or registered) who agree with me.  If this were wikipedia, I have no doubt such a reorganization would be considered a Good Idea. But of course this is &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; wikipedia, and you have every right to do things differently (the difference in writing style, I confess, is one of my favorite features of this wiki). If I read the discussion between M Sipher and Steve-o correctly, the consensus here is that it&#039;s better to have the categories be too vague than too numerous. As I have no history in this comunity, I can&#039;t really offer an informed opinion as to whether or not my proposal would upset your categorization scheme too much. I will have to leave the decision up to you regulars. But I do think [[:Category:Fandom]] would not be hurt, and could ineed benefit from some subcategorization. --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 23:48, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Kibble&amp;diff=97086</id>
		<title>Talk:Kibble</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Kibble&amp;diff=97086"/>
		<updated>2007-10-28T21:04:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;64.109.166.197: /* Jargon category */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Would &#039;Undercarriage junk&#039; fit in here?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Is it important enough to warrant a mention?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I mean, it DOES plague pretty much every jet Transformer to some degree.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Jargon category==&lt;br /&gt;
I would really like there to be a category for fandom jargon, such as [[kibble]], [[shellformer]], and so on. I would just &amp;quot;be bold&amp;quot; (as they asy on Wikipedia), but I confess that I&#039;m not sure what the best name for this category should be (&amp;quot;fan[dom] jargon&amp;quot;? &amp;quot;collector slang&amp;quot;??), nor what supercategory it would fit in. Anyone have suggestions? --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 20:56, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:If memory serves, the low limit to category contents is just three, and we have well over three articles that could qualify.  I&#039;m generally opposed to overcategorization, but this idea would be a handy idea to decipher the meaning of some of those entries without having to actually read the article.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Not that people shouldn&#039;t read the articles.--[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 21:30, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::The low-limit to category contents is EIGHT.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:36, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think for non-character articles, we can be a little lenient. I mean, we made the &amp;quot;eight&amp;quot; rule so every minor subgroup ever wouldn&#039;t be Categorized unnecessarily. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh, also, I suggest the name for the Category be as simple and direct as possible. &amp;quot;Fan terminology&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Fan terms&amp;quot;, which would probably fall under the &amp;quot;Fandom&amp;quot; Category itself. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Is there a reason that the already-existing [[:Category:Fandom]] isn&#039;t good enough?  If we push fan terms into a subcategory, we&#039;ll have to decide which words are &amp;quot;fan terms&amp;quot; as opposed to design, manufacturing or marketing terms that fans use all the time.  Where does &amp;quot;gimmick&amp;quot; go, for example?  (Now that I look at it, maybe gimmick shouldn&#039;t even be in the fandom category at all, but just under [[:Category:Toys]] like the articles about different types of joints.  I dunno.)  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:55, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My suggestion is more controvercial than I had expected! I&#039;m a newbie here, and unaquainted with your customs. But, see, that&#039;s exactly why I would like such a category: it would make it easier for people like me, who enjoy Transformers but have never been part of the fandom community, to learn about terminology. It doesn&#039;t seem like it makes sense to write a glossary page for all the technical terms, but a category page would be a very easy way to get all the words in one go. --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 20:45, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:And I suspect it wouln&#039;t be that hard to find eight articles on this sort of terminology, especially if you include things like [[redeco]], and even iffy items like [[army building]] (not exclusive to transformers fandom, but still an important term), and even the above-mentioned [[gimmick]] (an every day word, yes, but it has a specialized meaning in TF circles). --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 21:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Kibble&amp;diff=97085</id>
		<title>Talk:Kibble</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Kibble&amp;diff=97085"/>
		<updated>2007-10-28T20:45:28Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;Would &#039;Undercarriage junk&#039; fit in here?&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it important enough to warrant a mention?&lt;br /&gt;
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I mean, it DOES plague pretty much every jet Transformer to some degree.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Jargon category==&lt;br /&gt;
I would really like there to be a category for fandom jargon, such as [[kibble]], [[shellformer]], and so on. I would just &amp;quot;be bold&amp;quot; (as they asy on Wikipedia), but I confess that I&#039;m not sure what the best name for this category should be (&amp;quot;fan[dom] jargon&amp;quot;? &amp;quot;collector slang&amp;quot;??), nor what supercategory it would fit in. Anyone have suggestions? --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 20:56, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:If memory serves, the low limit to category contents is just three, and we have well over three articles that could qualify.  I&#039;m generally opposed to overcategorization, but this idea would be a handy idea to decipher the meaning of some of those entries without having to actually read the article.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Not that people shouldn&#039;t read the articles.--[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 21:30, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::The low-limit to category contents is EIGHT.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:36, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think for non-character articles, we can be a little lenient. I mean, we made the &amp;quot;eight&amp;quot; rule so every minor subgroup ever wouldn&#039;t be Categorized unnecessarily. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh, also, I suggest the name for the Category be as simple and direct as possible. &amp;quot;Fan terminology&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Fan terms&amp;quot;, which would probably fall under the &amp;quot;Fandom&amp;quot; Category itself. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Is there a reason that the already-existing [[:Category:Fandom]] isn&#039;t good enough?  If we push fan terms into a subcategory, we&#039;ll have to decide which words are &amp;quot;fan terms&amp;quot; as opposed to design, manufacturing or marketing terms that fans use all the time.  Where does &amp;quot;gimmick&amp;quot; go, for example?  (Now that I look at it, maybe gimmick shouldn&#039;t even be in the fandom category at all, but just under [[:Category:Toys]] like the articles about different types of joints.  I dunno.)  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:55, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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My suggestion is more controvercial than I had expected! I&#039;m a newbie here, and unaquainted with your customs. But, see, that&#039;s exactly why I would like such a category: it would make it easier for people like me, who enjoy Transformers but have never been part of the fandom community, to learn about terminology. It doesn&#039;t seem like it makes sense to write a glossary page for all the technical terms, but a category page would be a very easy way to get all the words in one go. --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 20:45, 28 October 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Casey Kasem</title>
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Casey Kasem&#039;&#039;&#039; (born &#039;&#039;&#039;Kemal Amin Kasem&#039;&#039;&#039;) (April 27, 1932- ) is an American voice actor.  Among other roles, he has been known as Shaggy from &#039;&#039;Scooby Doo&#039;&#039;, Robin from &#039;&#039;Superfriends&#039;&#039; and Alexander from &#039;&#039;Josie and the Pussycats&#039;&#039;.  He also had some kind of radio show or something.  Chances are you&#039;ve heard of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Generation 1==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bluestreak]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dr. Arkeville]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Teletraan I]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
Mr. Kasem left the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|original Transformers cartoon]] during production of the third season episode [[Thief in the Night]] because of its depiction of the highly stereotypical [[Abdul Fakkadi]] as dictator of made-up Arab state &#039;&#039;[[Carbombya]]&#039;&#039;.  Kasem&#039;s family is Lebanese [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druze Druze], which is not quite Arab, but &#039;&#039;zoinks&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.vegetus.org/vegtoon/cc.htm In deference to Mr. Kasem], [[Doctor Arkeville|Dr. Arkeville]] should be assumed to be a vegetarian.  I don&#039;t think we have to worry about the [[Autobot]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0440487/ Casey Kasem at the Internet Movie Database]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5naYcuCWBE Why &#039;&#039;should&#039;&#039; Sunbow listen to you? You&#039;re Hitler!]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Voice actors|Kasem, Casey]]&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Kibble</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Would &#039;Undercarriage junk&#039; fit in here?&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it important enough to warrant a mention?&lt;br /&gt;
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I mean, it DOES plague pretty much every jet Transformer to some degree.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Jargon category==&lt;br /&gt;
I would really like there to be a category for fandom jargon, such as [[kibble]], [[shellformer]], and so on. I would just &amp;quot;be bold&amp;quot; (as they asy on Wikipedia), but I confess that I&#039;m not sure what the best name for this category should be (&amp;quot;fan[dom] jargon&amp;quot;? &amp;quot;collector slang&amp;quot;??), nor what supercategory it would fit in. Anyone have suggestions? --[[User:64.109.166.197|64.109.166.197]] 20:56, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Transformers (film)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Transformers is an elaborate cover up in the [[Movie (franchise)|movie]] [[continuity family]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Transformers2007teaserposter.jpg|right|thumb|250px|AU-TO-BOTS ARE WAT-CHING O-VER YOU]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is a live-action movie released by [[DreamWorks]], with Executive Producer [[Steven Spielberg]] and Director [[Michael Bay]]. The principal cast members are [[Shia LaBeouf]], [[Jon Voight]], and [[Megan Fox]]. Character designs and visual effects were created by [[Industrial Light and Magic]], the effects-wizards behind the &#039;&#039;[[Star Wars]]&#039;&#039; films.&lt;br /&gt;
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Originally slated to release in the summer of 2006, the film arrived in US theaters on July 3, 2007, and hit UK theaters on July 27 and French theaters on July 25. The Australian release date was June 28, 2007, and premiered there on June 12, 2007. Take &#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039;, everywhere else.  An extended cut of the film featuring footage not in the original was released to IMAX theatres on September 21, 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Main cast==&lt;br /&gt;
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{|border=5 cellpadding=5 cellspacing=5 align=center style=&amp;quot;border:#800000&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#FFEEEE&amp;quot; | [[Autobot]]s&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:#EEEEFE&amp;quot; | [[Decepticon]]s&lt;br /&gt;
! style=&amp;quot;background:antiquewhite&amp;quot; | [[Human]]s&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| style=&amp;quot;background:#FFEEEE&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot; | &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] ([[Mark Ryan]]) &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] ([[Jess Harnell]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] ([[Darius McCrary]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] ([[Robert Foxworth]])&lt;br /&gt;
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| style=&amp;quot;background:#EEEEFE&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot; | &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] ([[Jess Harnell]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]]  &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]] ([[Jimmie Wood]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]]* / Devastator&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] ([[Reno Wilson]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] ([[Hugo Weaving]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] ([[Charles Adler]])&lt;br /&gt;
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| style=&amp;quot;background:antiquewhite&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot; |&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tom Banachek]] ([[Michael O&#039;Neill]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mikaela Banes]] ([[Megan Fox]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bobby Bolivia]] ([[Bernie Mac]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Epps]] ([[Tyrese Gibson]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Keller]] ([[Jon Voight]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[William Lennox]] ([[Josh Duhamel]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Maggie Madsen]] ([[Rachael Taylor]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Reggie Simmons]] ([[John Turturro]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Glen Whitmann]] ([[Anthony Anderson]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Judy Witwicky]] ([[Julie White]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ronald Witwicky]] ([[Kevin Dunn]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Samuel James Witwicky|Sam Witwicky]] ([[Shia LaBeouf]])&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;* - Brawl is named &amp;quot;Devastator&amp;quot; in the film itself, but &amp;quot;Brawl&amp;quot; in the toyline and all other supporting media.  Plot summaries and such will reflect whichever name is relevant to that being described.&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Short synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Big_fight.jpg|left|thumb|In short, giant robots blow each other up.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The movie features [[Sam Witwicky]], a plucky teenager who just wants a cool car, but gets more than he bargained for.  The beater he and his father take home is actually [[Bumblebee]], an alien robot from the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], who plants Sam down in the middle of a civil war between Bumblebee&#039;s benevolent [[Autobot]] comrades and the evil [[Decepticon]]s who threaten the galaxy&#039;s peace.  Both sides are after the [[All Spark]], a mysterious artifact that landed on Earth ten thousand years ago.  The approaching robot-against-robot battle is a coming-of-age moment for Sam, who learns the meaning of his family&#039;s motto, &amp;quot;No sacrifice, no victory.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Full synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Prime-Sam-Mikaela-poster.jpg|left|thumb|250px|What [[BotCon]] attendees see when they look at [[Peter Cullen]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The film begins with the history of Cybertron&#039;s destruction at the hands of Megatron, and his quest to obtain the All Spark. Megatron discovers the All Spark on Earth, but crash-lands in the Arctic Circle, becoming frozen in the ice. Captain Archibald Witwicky and his crew of explorers stumble upon Megatron&#039;s body in the late 19th century. Megatron&#039;s navigational system is unintentionally activated, and Archibald&#039;s eye glasses are imprinted with the coordinates to the All Spark&#039;s location. Sector 7, a secret organization of the United States government, discovers the All Spark and builds the Hoover Dam around it to mask its energy signal. The still-frozen Megatron is moved into this facility, and is reverse engineered to further advance human technology.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the present day, the rest of the Decepticons — Blackout, Scorponok, Frenzy, Barricade, Starscream, Bonecrusher, and Devastator — have already landed on Earth and assumed the disguise of Earth vehicles. Blackout and Scorponok attack U.S. SOCCENT Forward Operations Base in Qatar in an effort to use the military database to discover the location of Megatron and the All Spark, but they do not succeed. A small group of survivors from the military base attack wander through the desert and are attacked by Scorponok. The Autonomous Robotic Organism (shortened to &amp;quot;Autobot&amp;quot;) known as Bumblebee is also on Earth, disguised as a 1977 Chevrolet Camaro, and looking for Sam Witwicky, the descendant of Captain Archibald Witwicky. As soon as he locates Sam, the two quickly begin to bond as Bumblebee helps Sam try and woo his crush, Mikaela Banes; Sam is unaware of the fact that Bumblebee is an alien, until he witnesses Bumblebee transform and send out a homing signal for the rest of the Autobots. After Blackout&#039;s failure, Frenzy infiltrates Air Force One and discovers that Sam possesses the map that will lead the Decepticons to the All Spark. Frenzy and Barricade begin tracking Sam&#039;s location.&lt;br /&gt;
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Barricade confronts Sam, demanding Archibald&#039;s glasses. Bumblebee, who is following Sam, transforms and battles Barricade. Mikaela, who is also following Sam, is caught in the crossfire, and leaves with Sam and Bumblebee to rendezvous with the rest of the Autobots. The Autobots — Optimus Prime, Jazz, Ironhide, and Ratchet — land on Earth and take on the forms of several Earth vehicles. They all meet in a dark, secluded alley, transform in front of the two amazed humans, introduce themselves and tell of the reasons they had to come to Earth to Sam and Mikaela.  Sam, Mikaela, and the Autobots then return to Sam&#039;s home to retrieve the glasses. However, agents from Sector 7 arrive to take Sam and Mikaela into custody. Bumblebee is also apprehended, against the pleas of Sam who assures the agents - to no avail - that he means them no harm.&lt;br /&gt;
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Frenzy secretly accompanies the group to the Hoover Dam, and releases Megatron from cryogenic stasis. Locating the All Spark, he sends out an alert to the rest of the Decepticons. Megatron escapes, and Sam convinces the Sector 7 agents to release Bumblebee so that he can get the All Spark to Optimus Prime. The Decepticons chase the Autobots, who now possess the All Spark, into a neighboring city. An ensuing battle results in casualties for both sides, including Jazz.  Finally, with both Prime and Megatron weakened, Prime beckons Sam to shove the All Spark into his chest, destroying them both, but Sam instead takes the riskier action of shoving the All Spark into Megatron&#039;s chest. The remains of the Decepticons are cast into the Laurentian Abyss. With no other home to go to - Cybertron having been destroyed by Megatron - the Autobots decide to stay on Earth, and Optimus sends out a signal across space in an effort to locate any surviving Autobots, while Sam and Mikaela begin a relationship. Starscream, one of the Decepticons that survived the battle, leaves Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Before time began, there was the Cube. We know not where it comes from, only that it holds the power to create worlds and fill them with life. That was how our race was born. For a time, we lived in harmony, but like all great power, some wanted it for good, others for evil. And so began the war - a war that ravaged our planet until it was consumed by death, and the Cube was lost to the far reaches of space. We scattered across the galaxy, hoping to find it and rebuild our home, searching every star, every world. And just when all hope seemed lost, message of a new discovery drew us to an unknown planet called... Earth. But we were already too late.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:-- &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;s&#039;&#039;&#039; opening narration&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Sir, look outside: do you see that man sitting in the green car? That&#039;s my dad. Let me tell you a story about a dream, a boy&#039;s dream: A man promised to buy his son a car if I brought up three A&#039;s and two thousand dollars. I already have the two thousand and two A&#039;s. Your B minus? Poof! There goes the dream. Now ask yourself... what would Jesus do?&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:-- &#039;&#039;&#039;Sam Witwicky&#039;&#039;&#039; negotiates a better mark for his Family Geneology project&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Bobby Bolivia:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;What, with the semi-classic nature of the vehicle, slick wheels and custom paint job-&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Sam:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The paint&#039;s faded!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Bobby:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Y-yeah, but its custom.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Sam:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;It&#039;s custom faded?&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Bobby:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Well, it&#039;s your first car, I wouldn&#039;t expect you to understand. &#039;&#039;*turns to Ron*&#039;&#039; Five grand.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ron:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;No, not paying over four. Sorry.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Bobby:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;*turns back to Sam*&#039;&#039; Kid, c&#039;mon, get out, get out of the car. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Sam:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;No, no, no, you said cars pick their drivers!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Bobby:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Well sometimes they pick a driver with a cheap-ass father, out of the car.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:-- Negotiations over [[Bumblebee (Movie)|the car]] at Bolivia&#039;s Finest Quality Used Cars and Petting Zoo&lt;br /&gt;
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(Sam&#039;s car leaves in a puff of black smoke)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Wow... you are so cheap.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;It&#039;s his first car... supposed to be like that.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:-- &#039;&#039;&#039;Judy Witwicky&#039;&#039;&#039; comments on the car&#039;s condition to &#039;&#039;&#039;Ron&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;I need a credit card! Hey, where&#039;s your wallet?&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Pocket!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; *fires gun* &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Which pocket?&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;My &#039;&#039;back&#039;&#039; pocket!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; *fires gun*&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;You got ten back pockets!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Left cheek! Left cheek! &#039;&#039;Left cheek!&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:-- &#039;&#039;&#039;Captain Lennox&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Sergeant Epps&#039;&#039;&#039; needing a credit card to call the Pentagon&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The heat&#039;s coming!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;What, BRING IT!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:-- &#039;&#039;&#039;Lennox&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Epps&#039;&#039;&#039; giving the greenlight for Strike Package Bravo to attack Scorponok&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Barricade:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;ARE YOU USERNAME LADIESMAN217?&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Sam:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;I don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Barricade:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;ARE YOU USERNAME LADIESMAN217!?&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Sam:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Yeah...&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Barricade:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;WHERE IS THE EBAY ITEM 21153? WHERE - ARE - THE - GLASSES?&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:-- &#039;&#039;&#039;Barricade&#039;&#039;&#039; confronts &#039;&#039;&#039;Sam&#039;&#039;&#039; in the parking lot.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Ironhide:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Why are we fighting to save the humans? They&#039;re a primitive and violent race.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Were we so different? They are a young species, they have much to learn... but I&#039;ve seen goodness in them. Freedom is the right of all sentient beings... you all know there is only one way to end this war. We must destroy the Cube. If all else fails, I will unite it with the spark in my chest.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Ratchet:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;That&#039;s suicide! The Cube is raw power, it could destroy you both.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;A necessary sacrifice to bring peace to this planet... we cannot let the humans pay for our mistakes. It&#039;s been an honor serving with you all. Autobots, roll out!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:-- The &#039;&#039;&#039;Autobots&#039;&#039;&#039; discuss their next move.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Give me the All Spark, and you may live to be my &#039;&#039;pet&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;I&#039;m never giving you this All Spark!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Oh, &#039;&#039;so&#039;&#039; unwise...&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
:-- &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; corners &#039;&#039;&#039;Sam&#039;&#039;&#039; on the rooftop.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;It&#039;s you and me, Megatron.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;No, it&#039;s just &#039;&#039;ME&#039;&#039;, Prime!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:-- &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; face off for the fate of the All Spark and Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;The humans don&#039;t deserve to live.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;They deserve to choose for them&#039;&#039;selves&#039;&#039;!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Then you will die with them!&amp;quot; Megatron throws Optimus away&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Join them in extinction!&amp;quot; Megatron prepares fusion cannon&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:-- &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039; while continuing their battle&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;With the All Spark gone, we cannot return life to our planet. And fate has yielded its reward, a new world to call... home. We live among its people now, hiding in plain sight. But watching over them in secret... waiting... protecting. I have witnessed their capacity for courage, and though we are worlds apart, like us, there&#039;s more to them than meets the eye. I am Optimus Prime, and I send this message to any surviving Autobots taking refuge among the stars: We are here... We are waiting.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:-- &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;s&#039;&#039;&#039; closing narration&lt;br /&gt;
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==Production staff==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Movie_Castandcrew2.jpg|thumb|right|300px|WE! DIG! GI-ANT RO-BOTS!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Executive Producer: [[Steven Spielberg]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Executive Producer: [[Brian Goldner]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Director: [[Michael Bay]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Producers: [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]], [[Ian Bryce]], [[Tom DeSanto]], [[Don Murphy]] &lt;br /&gt;
* Story by: [[Alex Kurtzman]] &amp;amp; [[Roberto Orci]] and [[John Rogers]], &lt;br /&gt;
* Screenwriters: [[Alex Kurtzman]] &amp;amp; [[Roberto Orci]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Music by: [[Steve Jablonsky]]&lt;br /&gt;
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====Visual effects====&lt;br /&gt;
* Visual Effects by: [[Industrial Light and Magic]], [[Digital Domain]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Production Designer: [[Jeff Mann]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Lead Robot Illustrator: [[Ben Procter]]&lt;br /&gt;
* ILM Visual Effects Supervisior: [[Scott Farrar]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Art Director: [[Alex Jaeger]] &lt;br /&gt;
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==Other editions==&lt;br /&gt;
The 2007 Transformers film has more than one &#039;cut.&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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* The worldwide theatrical release was essentially identical all around the world with a few minor exceptions.&lt;br /&gt;
** The film board of Malaysia{{fact}} required [[Judy Witwicky]]&#039;s masturbation reference be removed.  However, no such change has been made and her lines were not omitted from the film.&lt;br /&gt;
* The [[Wikipedia:IMAX|IMAX]] edition of the movie features two minutes of additional footage in the form of slightly extended scenes and very brief new scenes.  Added material includes the following:&lt;br /&gt;
**Before heading to the lake party, Sam is shown picking Miles up at his house.  Miles derides Sam&#039;s choice of car colors.&lt;br /&gt;
**After Sam is questioned by the sheriff at the police station, he is given an anti-drug bumper sticker and shown the &amp;quot;[[wikipedia:This is Your Brain on Drugs|This is Your Brain on Drugs]]&amp;quot; [[Public service announcement|PSA]] starring [[wikipedia:Rachel Leigh Cook|Rachel Leigh Cook]].&lt;br /&gt;
**After abducting Sam and Mikaela, Agent Simmons uses a device to monitor Sam&#039;s pupil dilation while interrogating him in the truck.  He also remarks that he has &amp;quot;been there&amp;quot; when it comes to women with criminal records.&lt;br /&gt;
**Upon arriving at Hoover Dam, Simmons remarks colorfully that it is &amp;quot;Area 50&amp;quot;.  A few minutes later, he lists the nicknames of all the U.S. Presidents to have toured the facility.  &lt;br /&gt;
**In Mission City, Lennox acquires short-range radios from a gun-toting, but easily-flattered, pawn shop owner.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Prequel material==&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the movie&#039;s release [[IDW]] Publishing released a four issue limited comic series entitled &amp;quot;[[Prime Directives]]&amp;quot;, which chronicles the events which bring the Transformers to [[Earth]].  An animated version will be featured on the DVD.[http://tformers.com/Animated-Movie-Prequel-A-Movie-DVD-Bonus-Feature/8268/news.html] A novel, &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday]]&#039;&#039;, is about the truth behind humankind&#039;s first venture into space and how that event is related to the Transformers&#039; presence on Earth, both past and present.&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the movie&#039;s plot brings the audience into things from Sam&#039;s POV, as he learns of not only the Transformers&#039; war but mankind&#039;s past history with Cybertronians, the prequel material provides a better handle on the intricate storyline.&lt;br /&gt;
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It should be noted, however, that some dialogue in the film contradicts the prequel material, specifically pertaining to the years in which the frozen Megatron was moved from the Arctic to Hoover Dam.&lt;br /&gt;
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Included in a Wal-Mart 2-Disc exclusive of the Movie DVD is a bonus disc entitled &#039;&#039;Transformers Beginnings&#039;&#039; a not-really-animated animatic version of IDW&#039;s Prime Directives prequel comics, voiced by some of the actors from the movie, the game and a bunch of other people.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Soundtrack==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Transformers soundtrack .jpg|thumb|Optimus misses the good ol&#039; rockbands.]]&lt;br /&gt;
On July 3, 2007, Warner Bros Records released a &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; soundtrack full of songs from or inspired by the motion picture.&lt;br /&gt;
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*1. &amp;quot;What I&#039;ve Done&amp;quot; - [[Linkin Park]]&lt;br /&gt;
*2. &amp;quot;Doomsday Clock&amp;quot; - [[Smashing Pumpkins]] &lt;br /&gt;
*3. &amp;quot;This Moment&amp;quot; - [[Disturbed]]&lt;br /&gt;
*4. &amp;quot;Before It&#039;s Too Late (Sam and Mikaela&#039;s Theme)&amp;quot; aka &amp;quot;Fiction&amp;quot; - [[Goo Goo Dolls]] &lt;br /&gt;
*5. &amp;quot;Pretty Handsome Awkward&amp;quot; - [[The Used]]&lt;br /&gt;
*6. &amp;quot;Passion&#039;s Killing Floor&amp;quot; - [[HIM]] &lt;br /&gt;
*7. &amp;quot;What It Feels Like To Be A Ghost?&amp;quot; - [[Taking Back Sunday]]&lt;br /&gt;
*8. &amp;quot;Second To None&amp;quot; - [[Styles Of Beyond]]&lt;br /&gt;
*9. &amp;quot;End Of The World&amp;quot; - [[Armor For Sleep]]&lt;br /&gt;
*10. &amp;quot;Retina and the Sky&amp;quot; - [[Idiot Pilot]]&lt;br /&gt;
*11. &amp;quot;Technical Difficulties&amp;quot; - [[Julien-K]]&lt;br /&gt;
*12. &amp;quot;Transformers Theme&amp;quot; - [[MuteMath]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Score==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Transformersthescore.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Optimus, Bumblebee, and Megatron as the three tenors.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On October 9, 2007, Warner Bros Records released a &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; score featuring the instrumental music composed by [[Steve Jablonsky]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*1. Autobots&lt;br /&gt;
*2. Decepticons&lt;br /&gt;
*3. The All Spark&lt;br /&gt;
*4. Deciphering The Signal&lt;br /&gt;
*5. Frenzy&lt;br /&gt;
*6. Optimus&lt;br /&gt;
*7. Bumblebee&lt;br /&gt;
*8. SOCCENT Attack&lt;br /&gt;
*9. Sam At The Lake&lt;br /&gt;
*10. Scorponok&lt;br /&gt;
*11. Cybertron&lt;br /&gt;
*12. Arrival To Earth&lt;br /&gt;
*13. Witwicky&lt;br /&gt;
*14. Downtown Battle&lt;br /&gt;
*15. Sector 7&lt;br /&gt;
*16. Bumblebee Captured&lt;br /&gt;
*17. You&#039;re A Soldier Now&lt;br /&gt;
*18. Sam On The Roof&lt;br /&gt;
*19. Optimus Vs. Megatron&lt;br /&gt;
*20. No Sacrifice, No Victory&lt;br /&gt;
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==DVD release==&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;US:&#039;&#039;&#039; [http://tformers.com/US-To-Get-Transformers-DVD-HD-DVD-October-16th/8350/news.html October 16th, 2007] (DVD, HD-DVD)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Australia:&#039;&#039;&#039; November 1st, 2007 (DVD)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;United Kingdom:&#039;&#039;&#039; December 3rd, 2007 (DVD)&lt;br /&gt;
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There are nearly a dozen store [[exclusive]] [http://tformers.com/Transformers-DVD-Exclusives-Who-Gets-What/8534/news.html versions and sales premiums of the DVD.]  They include:&lt;br /&gt;
* Target:  transforming Optimus Prime display case.&lt;br /&gt;
* Best Buy:  [[Robot Heroes]] [[Cliffjumper (Movie)|Cliffjumper]] and battle-damaged Optimus Prime.&lt;br /&gt;
* Wal-Mart:  [[Transformers Beginnings]] &amp;quot;animated&amp;quot; prequel material.&lt;br /&gt;
* Borders:  &amp;quot;Making Of&amp;quot; book.&lt;br /&gt;
* Circuit City:  password unlocking 15 minutes of exclusive online behind-the-scenes featurettes, covering the voice recording sessions, prop construction, stunt work, and early CG tests and animatics.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Reception==&lt;br /&gt;
The movie set multiple records when it opened, including biggest opening week gross for a non-sequel ($155.4 million), biggest Tuesday release gross ($27.4 million), biggest July 4th gross ($29 million), and the biggest foreign film opening in mainland China ($3 million). &lt;br /&gt;
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As of October 17, 2007, it has earned a worldwide gross of $700,993,495. US gross accounted for $310,578,372, &#039;&#039;before&#039;&#039; the IMAX version&#039;s release, and is currently at $317,667,377 after almost a month. It currently sits [http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm at spot #19] in the &amp;quot;most domestic gross&amp;quot; list of movies, though this listing is &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; adjusted for inflation.  When taking that into account, &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; [http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm just ekes in at spot #95]. &lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|It&#039;s goofy fun with a lot of stuff that blows up real good, and it has the grace not only to realize how preposterous it is, but to make that into an asset.|From Roger Ebert&#039;s review of &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; (see below).}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|I didn’t sleep through it the way I Novocained my way through the awful &#039;&#039;Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix&#039;&#039;, but by the time it ended, I thought I might have vertigo or whiplash, or both, and I certainly lost more than a few of my remaining I.Q. points.|From [http://www.observer.com/2007/bay-bombs-again Rex Reed&#039;s] review of &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039;.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Critical reception was hit-and-miss, [http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_the_movie/ more positive than negative but not by a lot], though it&#039;s sometimes hard to tell how many negative reviewers were more interested in screaming about [[Michael Bay]] in general over the movie itself. Otherwise, the most common negatives involved it being a generally think-free &amp;quot;spectacle&amp;quot;-style movie; even those who rated the movie positively noted it was a pure &amp;quot;popcorn&amp;quot; movie meant to wow its audience with CGI and explosions rather than make them think (Richard Roper noted in his &amp;quot;thumbs up&amp;quot; review &amp;quot;it has no nutritional value&amp;quot;).  Whether one considers that a good or bad thing for a movie and if the movie was enough fun to overcome that is, of course, highly debatable. The other main culprit, again noted by many of the positive reviews, was its long running time, particularly the overly-chaotic, often hard-to-follow final big-bang extended ending action sequence. ([http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070705/REVIEWS/70620006/1023 Roger Ebert] noted that this sequence was what made him give the movie three out of four stars rather than the full four.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Currently, two sequels are planned, with [[Shia LaBeouf]] and [[Peter Cullen]] signed for both. Michael Bay, Spielberg, and the two screenwriters have also returned, with pre-production already underway.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
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* The Autobot computer generated models consisted of 35,592 total pieces, 7,435,478 polygons, 95,247 rig nodes, and 20,258 texture maps.  If laid end to end, the pieces would stretch 3.11 miles.&lt;br /&gt;
* For all the robots combined, there are 60,217 pieces of geometry, 123,509,502 polygons, 144,341 rigging nodes, and 34,215 texture maps.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robertson, Barbara (2007). Heavy Metal. &#039;&#039;Computer Graphics, 30&#039;&#039;(7), 12-17.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* At the base in Qatar, one of the soldiers was speaking in rhymes. Whether or not this was a reference to G.I JOES Roadblock remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Errors==&lt;br /&gt;
* Sunset happens roughly every fifteen minutes.&lt;br /&gt;
===Not actually an error===&lt;br /&gt;
* Sam and Mikaela, as well as Maggie and Glenn arrive at Hoover Dam on the same helicopter despite being from opposite ends of the country. Occasionally cited as an error, it is actually a narrative oversight, as it is likely that Sam and Mikaela were held in custody at a U.S. Air Base while waiting for Maggie and Glen to arrive with Secretary Keller&#039;s party by plane, then they all left for Hoover Dam together on the helicopters.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.transformersmovie.com/ Transformersmovie.com]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418279/ &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; at IMDB.com]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.transformersalbum.com/ &#039;&#039;Transformers The Albu&#039;&#039;m]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; 2007 film on Wikipedia]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.capalert.com/capreports/transformers.htm &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; CAPalert.com review]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;64.109.166.197: No such Latin word as Elita, unfortunately.&lt;/p&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Elita One is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation One]] [[continuity family]]. She was once known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Ariel&#039;&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MCA-ElitaOne.jpg|thumb|right|Elita YUM.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Elita One&#039;&#039;&#039; is the female counterpart to [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]; a powerful warrior, fearless in the face of her enemies, but compassionate to those who cannot defend themselves. She commands a squad of female Autobots, and has their undying trust and support.&lt;br /&gt;
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While her pistol is powerful enough to blast [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] out of the air in one shot (!), her greatest power is her ability to briefly stop time. Sadly, this ability drains all of her [[spark|life force]], and is almost assuredly fatal, and thus she only uses it in the direst of situations.&lt;br /&gt;
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When the situation calls for it, she consults the wise [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]], her unbeknownest creator, via a holographic message machine.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;(&#039;&#039;&#039;Note&#039;&#039;&#039;: Elita One&#039;s name shares the same root meaning as Optimus Prime&#039;s... &amp;quot;Best First&amp;quot;. For many years, the actual spelling of her name was the subject of much fandom debate. The MC Axis kit finally gave her name the current spelling, and was later backed up by episode scripts.)  Elita is s presumably derived from &amp;quot;elite,&amp;quot; which comes from the Latin &#039;&#039;electa&#039;&#039;, meaning &amp;quot;Chosen.&amp;quot;  So her name translates as Chosen One, which makes sense as she was the one Alpha Trion chose to gift the special power and to lead the Femmes.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animated continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Marlene Aragon]] (US); [[Kazue Komiya]] (Japan), [[Eiko Yamada]] (Ariel-Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[image:ArielWarDawn1.jpg |thumb|left|200px|Robots with plunging necklines...somehow.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Nine million years ago, during the Golden Age of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], there lived a female robot named Ariel, the girlfriend of dock worker Orion Pax. She&#039;d heard that the new &amp;quot;[[Decepticon|flying robots]]&amp;quot; that Orion and and his friend [[Dion]] admired had put together an army and attacked one of Cybertron&#039;s outer cities, but Dion laughingly dismissed her as gullible.&lt;br /&gt;
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One of those &amp;quot;flying robots&amp;quot; - [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] - raided the energy storage facility Orion worked at with his [[transport drone]]s. While Megatron was in the midst of an assault on Orion, Ariel tried to stop him, only to be gunned down  herself, by Megatron.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fortunately for all involved, the time-lost [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] brought the deactivated Orion to [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] for repairs, who recreated the young robot as the first of Cybertron&#039;s new defenders - Optimus Prime. Prime and the Aerialbots then convinced Alpha Trion to try reconstructing Ariel; after agreeing to send some droids for her, Alpha Trion mused to himself that &amp;quot;Elita One&amp;quot; would be a good name for a female warrior. {{Storylink|War Dawn}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Elita one.jpg|thumb|right|150px|GURL = PINK on Cybertron.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Five million years later, Elita One tried to board the [[Ark|Autobot starship]] as it took off on its mission to search for energy - wanting to go with Optimus - but she was seemingly destroyed while the ship was attacked during takeoff. {{Storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;(&#039;&#039;&#039;Note&#039;&#039;&#039;: In the original pilot, the Ark did not appear to be under attack as it launched. The Ark being attacked and Elita One&#039;s presence as it took off constitues a [[retcon]].)&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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But Elita One did not perish. About four million years later, she was in command of a team of [[Female Autobots]], including [[Chromia]], [[Firestar]], and [[Moonracer]], who had been raiding [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]&#039;s [[energon]] supplies in secret for an unknown length of time. Their existance was revealed thanks to Moonracer&#039;s carelessness, which subsequently lead to Elita&#039;s One capture by [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] and the destruction of their secret base by [[Rumble]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Way to go, Moonracer.&lt;br /&gt;
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Elita was used as bait to lure Optimus Prime into a trap, where he too was captured - and was soon on the block for execution in a vat of acid. Desperate to save her beloved, Elita triggered her time-stopping power, which allowed her to save Prime... but expended nearly all her life-force doing so.&lt;br /&gt;
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After getting them both out of Decepticon Headquarters, Optimus was able to track Alpha Trion to his secret base. The ancient Autobot repaired Elita to the best of his ability, but revealed to Optimus Prime that only &#039;&#039;&#039;he&#039;&#039;&#039; could save Elita by interfacing to her with his power filter. An astonished Optimus Prime stated that only his CREATOR could know that!&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;(Optimus Prime had apparently forgotten that Alpha Trion &#039;&#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039;&#039; his creator, although he seemed to know that Alpha Trion created Elita One, making a knowing comment when Elita said that Alpha Trion was like a father to her. Which is really kind of creepy when you think about it.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ElitaVehicle01.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Yeah, this is all you see.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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After Elita One was re-energized, she and Prime arrived in time to save both a group of Earth-based Autobots who had followed Prime to Cybertron and Elita&#039;s own troops from certain death at the hands of the Decepticons. Notably, Elita shot Shockwave out of the air with a single blast from her pistol.&lt;br /&gt;
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With their original secret base in ruins, Alpha Trion quickly set the female Autobots up with a new one, full of advanced equipment.&lt;br /&gt;
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Though regretful that they&#039;d be apart again so soon, Elita One elected to stay behind on Cybertron and continue the fight at home while Optimus and the other Autobots returned to the war on Earth. Of course, this didn&#039;t prevent her from telling him not to stay away TOO long... {{Storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===MC Axis Kit mini-comic===&lt;br /&gt;
Elita One and her team toppled a colossal Decepticon warrior. Though her team was jubilant at their victory, Elita knew that this one victory was far from enough to win the war, and longed for Prime to return so they could re-take their homeworld.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Dreamwave comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
Elita One and the other female Autobots were an elite squad of warriors under the command of the [[Quintesson]]s, waiting for intel from their Autobot sleeper agent, [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;(&#039;&#039;&#039;Note&#039;&#039;&#039;: [[Dreamwave]] filed for bankruptcy and stopped producing Transformers books right as the female Autobots arc was beginning.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Marvel comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====Classics====&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;(&#039;&#039;&#039;Note&#039;&#039;&#039;: The &#039;&#039;[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]&#039;&#039; story takes place in a post-Marvel Generation 1 comics universe where [[Generation 2]] did not happen.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Elita One is part of Grimlock&#039;s crew on the &#039;&#039;[[Graviton (Classics)|Graviton]]&#039;&#039;.  After following [[Bug Bite]]&#039;s crew of Decepticons to Earth, she fights her way into the Decepticon base herself with radical [[Circuit-Su|martial arts]].  She is so totally awesome, what anyone else does isn&#039;t really that important, apparently.  {{storylink|Games of Deception}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;(&#039;&#039;&#039;Note:&#039;&#039;&#039; Her appearance is apparently designed with a [[redeco]] of [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)|Thunderblast]] in mind.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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===IDW comic continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
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Elita appears with her boyfriend, their father, and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|a close friend/white clone of her boyfriend]] at [[Bumper]] and [[Fastback]]&#039;s funeral. {{storylink|Megatron Origin, part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Merchandise===&lt;br /&gt;
* An officially-licensed Japanese &amp;quot;garage kit&amp;quot; unpainted resin model of her robot mode was made by MC Axis in 1996.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Generations-CybertronBattle.jpg|thumb|250px|Click to enlarge!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* A Cybertronian battle scene in &#039;&#039;[[Comics Bom-Bom]]&#039;&#039; (reprinted in &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Generations]]&#039;&#039;) depicts Elita One fighting the Decepticons alongside other pre-Earth Autobots.&lt;br /&gt;
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* According to writer [[David Wise]], he did &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; intend for Ariel to be rebuilt as Elita 1 when writing [[War Dawn]][http://web.archive.org/web/20040806162116/iesb.net/collecting/collecting63004.htm]. Whether Ariel was originally supposed to die or if she was supposed to be rebuilt into someone else is unknown.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Elita One&#039;s alt-mode has never been depicted in its entirety. As shown above, only the very front end is seen, as the rest is hidden by Optimus Prime&#039;s truck mode. It looks a little like a mish-mash of the [[alt mode]]s of [[Wheelie]] and [[Arcee]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* In the War Within graphic novel, Elita One&#039;s silhouette is depicted on Optimus&#039; mudflap in vehicle mode, similar to the &amp;quot;naked lady&amp;quot; silhouette decal seen on modern vehicles.&lt;br /&gt;
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