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Scourge (RID)

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:''Scourge is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Black_Convoy.jpg|right|thumb|I see a [[Optimus Prime (RID)|red truck]] and I want to paint it black.]]

A [[protoform]] scanning mishap resulted in a [[Decepticon]] protoform attaining attributes of [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] yet retaining the Decepticon programming. This protoform became '''Scourge'''. Scourge is arguably [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]]'s second in command, leading the new Decepticon forces, a much more effective unit than [[Sky-Byte]]'s [[Predacon (RID)|Predacons]].

He is a ruthless and cunning warrior who contains all of Optimus Prime's strengths and skill, but none of his compassion and mercy. He's also a very ''ambitious'' warrior, with plans to dethrone Megatron!

Scourge's greatest strength is also his weakness--his temper. Fearless and furious, he charges into battle wildly hacking his broadsword as his trailer combat deck launches missile barrages overhead. Yet his rage also makes him impatient, petulant, and easily provoked; it also scares the heck out of his subordinates.

Naturally, [[Sky-Byte]] sees Scourge as a threat on just about every level. For once, he's right.

:''Japanese name:'' '''Black Convoy'''

==Fiction==
===Robots in Disguise cartoon===
[[Image:Rid8.jpg|right|thumb|Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem.Oh yeah!]]
:''Voice actor:'' [[Barry Stigler]] (English), [[Taitem Kusunoki]] (Japanese)

The robot who came to be named Scourge was originally one of a crew of six [[Autobot]]s sent to [[Earth]] to reactivate the legendary Autobot battle station, [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Fortress Maximus]]. As leader of the expedition, Scourge was equipped with the ability to detect the unique energy signatures of the [[O-Parts]], the [[Cybertron]]ian components that held the key to reawakening Maximus. However, Scourge never had the opportunity to use that ability in the service of the Autobots, when the team's craft malfunctioned and crashed on Earth in the mid-20th century. Having been in [[protoform]]-state with [[stasis pods]] for the duration of their voyage, the six Autobots were entombed in their crashed ship.

In the early days of the 21st century, archaeologist and energy expert [[Doctor Onishi]]'s work eventually led him to find the various links in the chain of Fortress Maximus - he located the fortress itself beneath [[Metro City]], mapped the location of the O-Parts, and discovered the location of the crashed Autobot spaceship. However, when the evil [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]] came to Earth with the intent of harnessing Maximus's power, he captured Onishi, and through mental scans, discerned the location of the Autobots' ship. Stealing the six protoforms, Megatron took them to a nearby military base to scan vehicle modes for them, infusing them with a part of his own spark energy to turn them to the side of evil. The first five became the [[Commando]]s, but when Megatron targeted a tanker truck to scan as the alternate mode of the final protoform, [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] leapt into action in order to save the truck's human driver (the eternally-luckless [[Kelly]]), and as a result, the tanker, Prime ''and'' the human were all scanned. With an infusion of Megatron's spark energy to complete the concoction, Scourge was born, emerging from his pod as a dark twin of Optimus Prime, who proved that Megatron's programming had over-ridden any Autobot goodness within him. Appointing himself leader of the new "[[Decepticons (RID)|Decepticons]]," he quickly established himself as a force to be reckoned with. {{storylink|The Decepticons}}

After leading a series of unsuccessful missions - with failure sometimes due to the interference of his [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] rival [[Sky-Byte]] - during which Optimus Prime constantly but vainly urged him to search for the true Autobot nature within himself, Scourge developed a fierce independent streak, steadily growing more and more revolted at being in the service of Megatron. Eventually, when Fortress Maximus was discovered buried beneath Metro City, exposure to the battle station's energies began to reawaken memories the original mission Scourge had been programmed with. As the race began to locate the O-Parts, Scourge rediscovered his ability to sense them. Holding one in his hand, his mission was now clear to Scourge - but unfortunately, Megatron's reprogramming added a distinctly [[Decepticon]] bent to it, as Scourge now sought to use the power of Fortress Maximus to conquer the galaxy for himself.

Successfully capturing [[Cerebros (RID)|Cerebros]], the power key to Fortress Maximus, Scourge used the part of his bio-signature that was Optimus Prime's to dupe the robot into activating Maximus, but the giant robot ran amok until the Autobots' human ally, [[Koji Onishi|Koji]] was able to stop it. Realizing that humans could control Maximus, Scourge then amplified the human part of his bio-signature and succeeded in taking control of the giant, until he was overridden by a large group of human children. Seeking to use Koji himself for the process, a case of mistaken identity resulted in the Decepticons capturing his best friend, [[Karl]], instead, but when Karl proved able to activate [[Fortress Maximus]], Scourge dropped his façade of loyalty and ordered Maximus to destroy Megatron (now Galvatron). The failure of this plan brought about a punishment most severe - Scourge and the Decepticons had their autonomy stripped by Galvatron, turned once again into loyal servants so dedicated to Galvatron that they continued to do his will even after he attempted to kill them with molten lava as a belated punishment. With Galvatron's ultimate defeat at the hands of [[Omega Prime]], Scourge was captured and taken back to Cybertron for imprisonment with the other villains.

===Dreamwave comics===

==Toys==
===Robots in Disguise===
*'''Black Convoy''' (Destronger, 2000)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-012'''

:A [[black repaint|black]] [[redeco]] of the Laser [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] mold, Black Convoy is a black Western Star 4964EX truck with teal paint apps, and darkish pink windows. His trailer is chrome, and he lacks all of Laser Prime's stickers. The toy lacks all of Laser Prime's electronics, to keep costs down. However, the arms still are restricted in motion, to prevent breaking the wires that no longer exist in the toy.

:Due to the molded G2 Autobot symbols on the discs Black Convoy's launcher has, [[Takara]] made Black Convoy's faction symbol the G2 Autobot one, but upside down.

*'''Scourge''' (Decepticon, 2002)

[[Image:RID_Scourge_toy.jpg|thumb|right|200px|This toy almost makes the black repaint craze worth it.]]

:The US release of Black Convoy, sold exclusively at Toys-R-Us. Specimens sold at retail were very similar to Black Convoy. Notable changes were that red translucent plastic replaces all the pink; the stickers are now a flat light gray with Decepticon logos instead of glossy silver with "negative-Autobot" logos; the sword was blunted; and the discs were remolded to make them blank, removing the faction symbol. The only change in paint is that Scourge has Decepticon sigils tampographed on his doors, while lacking Black Convoy's teal "stripe" along the cab's nose. The license plate sticker on the tanker now states "SCOURGE D-012".

:An early wave of Scourges sold on the Toys-R-Us website had the American-styled stickers but retained the Japanese cab paint applications and pink plastic.

:This version of the mold was later reused by [[Sonokong]] as ''Car Robots'' Black Convoy in the South Korean market, with Hasbro's paint decos and darker red plastic, but with Black Convoy's stickers.

*'''X-Brawn / Scourge''' (Basic, 2002)

: The only new tooling for this character, Spychanger Scourge was only available in a 2 pack with a Spychanger version of [[X-Brawn]]. Like most Spychangers, he features high speed axles and can roll very well across smooth surfaces, but lacks the weight to propel him quickly.

: As with most of the new ''Robots in Disguise'' releases, the X-Brawn / Scourge pack was available in Japan as a 'USA Edition' mass-released toy.

: Ironically, this mold was later redecoed '''both''' as ''Generation 1'' Spychanger [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] in the ''[[Universe]]'' toyline and as "Movie" [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] for a Japanese pack-in DVD exclusive.

*'''Destructicon Scourge''' (Deluxe, 2003)
[[Image:Scourgedestructicon.jpg|right|thumb|200px|It's me again!]]

:Released as a Kay-Bee Toys exclusive, Destructicon Scourge is a black redeco of [[Optimus Prime (G1) toys|Hero Optimus Prime]]. In either robot mode or tanker mode, he carries a missile launcher that fires when its air silo is squeezed. Scourge comes with two rubber-tipped missiles which can store on his back in robot mode.

:By the time this toy was released, its tooling had degraded somewhat since Hero Prime's original production run. As a result, neither robot nor vehicle mode held together very well on many specimens. Keeping his missiles stored was difficult, as they liked to pop out from their storage clips involuntarily. Additionally, initial shipments appear to have been missing a certain part that allowed the waist to ratchet, instead letting it spin freely.

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==Trivia==
* Scourge's color scheme pretty much set the tone for the [[Nemesis Prime (Armada)|parade]] [[Grand Scourge|of]] [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|evil]] [[Nemesis Prime (Alternators)|clones]] that would follow for the next five years and up. Granted, it's a pretty color scheme, but it's been [[Nemesis Breaker|overused]] by now.
* Because his biosignature contains the DNA of a human female, some fans jokingly point out that this technically makes Scourge a [[Gender-switch characters|transvestite]]. [[Airazor|Join]] [[Override (Cybertron)|the]] [[Sureshock (Armada)|club]].

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/2002/Decepticon/Scourge/scourge.htm Scourge at TFU.info]

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==Rob's Big To-Do List!==
An ever-changing list of stuff that needs taking care of. I'll get to it eventually, but if anyone else wants to pitch in, go for it!

'''General cleanup:'''
* [[Universe (comic)]] issues are still a mess. They should all look like [[G.I._Joe_vs._the_Transformers_II_issue_2|this page]] when all's said and done.
** Overview page looks awful.
** Most issue pages look awful.
** The caption "The universe is very large place." has not been used. SOMETHING MUST BE DONE.
* UK Annual text stories -- which ones fit with the mainline comic?
** [[Trigger-Happy]] - has Megatron and Scoop on Earth, so, no.
** [[The Quest!]] - one of those recap-the-storyline ones.
** [[The Return of the Transformers]]
** [[To a Power Unknown]]
** Headmasters retelling trio
** [[Plague of the Insecticons!]]
** [[Hunted!]]
** [[Missing in Action]]
** [[The Mission]]

* UK Future Autobot stories -- cross-link somehow?
** [[Ark Duty!]]
** [[Prime's Rib]]
** [[Ark Duty]]
** [[Target: 2006]]
** Death's Head / Legacy of Unicron / Space Pirates
** [[Time Wars]]
** Dystopic future saga
** [[Aspects of Evil]]
** [[Peace]]

* [[Energon (mini-comic)]] page doesn't exist at all. WTF, mate?

'''Toyline pages:''' Most of these are just straight lists of toys. They need overview writeups: what common elements did the toys have, standard gimmicks, packaging notes, sub-lines, items of special note, reception by fans and general public, images of some sample toys.
* [[Generation 1 (toyline)]] -- Just about perfect.
* [[Generation 2 (toyline)]] -- needs re-writing, and images.
* [[Movie (toyline)]] -- main line has writeup & images. Many sublines have nothing. Add cross-sells.
* [[Beast Machines (toyline)]] - needs images/cross-sells.
* [[Robots in Disguise (toyline)]] - needs images/cross-sells.
* [[Cybertron (toyline)]] - cleanup, images.
* [[Beast Wars (toyline)]] - cleanup.
* [[Machine Wars]] - needs a few images.
* [[Universe (toyline)]] - Needs more write-up, and nimages. Purple Silverbolt would be ideal. Or catalog.

'''Standard format:'''
* [[Armada (Panini comic)]]

==Comic series organization project==
MARVEL GENERATION ONE
 [[Marvel Comics]] - publisher page. Short overview of the series, and links to:
::[[Generation 1 (Marvel Comics)]] - Series overview page. Covers the US series and the UK series. Needs more images -- UK comic covers in particular.
::[[Generation 2 (Marvel Comics)]] - Series overview page.
::[[G.I. Joe and the Transformers]]
::[[Headmasters (comic)]]
::[[Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)]]
 [[Marvel_Comics_continuity]] - page about the continuity. Still need to link more stuff back to this page.
 http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Marvel_US_issues - not so critical now that everything's got nav boxes.

DREAMWAVE GENERATION ONE
 [[Dreamwave]] - publisher. Lists issues but is mostly about the company.
 [[Dreamwave timeline]]
 [[Dreamwave continuity]]

IDW GENERATION ONE
 [[IDW Publishing]] - publisher page. Intro to rebooted continuity and list of issues ordered by date of publication.
 [[IDW timeline]]
 [[IDW continuity]]

DEVIL'S DUE
 [[Devil's Due]] - publisher page. Short history, list of miniseries.
 [[Devil's Due timeline]] - No timeline page at present.
 [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers continuity]] - Continuity overview page. Also lists the four miniseries. They should all link back to it.

G1 CARTOON
 [[Generation 1 (cartoon)]]
 [[Generation 1 cartoon timeline]]
 [[Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)]]
 [[Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)/src]]
 No continuity page at present.

BEAST ERA CARTOONS
 [[Beast Era]] - short overview page, links to main franchise pages.
 [[Beast Wars (cartoon)]]
 [[Beast Machines (cartoon)]]
 [[Beast Era timeline]] - page doesn't exist yet.
 No continuity page at present.



==Testing Comics nav template for mini-series==

'''''The Transformers: Infiltration''''' is the first in a line of miniseries by [[IDW Publishing]] set in a "re-boot" of the [[Generation 1]] continuity, bringing the presence on [[Earth]] of the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s into the present day and placing the "robots in disguise" concept firmly in the forefront of its narrative. Infiltration is set in the same time period as ''[[Stormbringer|The Transformers: Stormbringer]]'' and both are followed by ''[[Escalation|The Transformers: Escalation]]''.

{{comicnav | IDW continuity | Infiltration | seriesname=IDW continuity | prev= | next=Escalation}}

{|style="margin:0 auto;padding:0 auto" align=center id=toc
!align=center bgcolor=#6699CC|'''''Infiltration'' issues:'''
|-align=center
|| [[Infiltration (issue 0)|#0]] | [[Infiltration (issue 1)|#1]] | [[Infiltration (issue 2)|#2]] | [[Infiltration (issue 3)|#3]] | [[Infiltration (issue 4)|#4]] | [[Infiltration (issue 5)|#5]] | [[Infiltration (issue 6)|#6]]
|}
{{-}}

...man, that doesn't really work, does it. What comes next -- ''Stormbringer''? ''Escalation''? One of the ''Spotlight''s?
:IDW's timeline is epochal, with each successive era marked by it's G1 miniseries. There may be other events that take place between the minis-- even (in the case of Stormbringer) major events but the G1 minis are the 'core' of the brand. We need a markup that recognizes this. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:08, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, that makes sense... so long as they all also link back to a continuity page so the complete picture is available as well. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 15:01, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I know I'm really late, but the IDW TPBs are numbered. Volume 1 is Infiltration, 2 is Stormbringer, and 3 is Escalation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:47, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Ah, handy! Will adjust accordingly. I kinda gave up on the mini-series nav box idea anyway -- it seems a bit like overkill. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:12, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

==Images==
Hi, as the self-appointed pics guy (as I probably upload the most pics here), I'd suggest that you use Photoshop to edit out the backgrounds of the MTMTE scans you upload, so we're left with a nice, white background that matches the default colour of the wiki.

I'd also advise you to use copyright tags when uploading images such as:

<nowiki>{{hastak}}</nowiki> for Hasbro/Takara-owned images such as stock toy photos or screencaps.

<nowiki>{{comicinterior}}</nowiki> for comic page scans (which apply for the MTMTE series).

<nowiki>{{comiccover}}</nowiki> for comic covers.

<nowiki>{{fairuse}}</nowiki> for general pictures relating to Transformers but not exactly owned by Hasbro, or its a legal grey area. This can be used when you upload toy photos that you didn't take yourself.

A tip for recognising artists - [[Don Figueroa]] is VERY prolific in the MTMTE series, and you can tell which works are his by by their big hands with vents on the back of them, which are his trademark. Another trademark of his is cyclindrical piping on the edges of limbs, particularly the thighs. Also, most artists tended to be assigned all the art for a particular subgroup or team.

If in doubt, use <nowiki>{{artist?}}</nowiki> and it will be added to the category of art by undetermined artists.

Finally, I would advise caution in using so many pictures from a single source, as it would be hard to argue fair use. -[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:12, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

:Thanks for the tips. I may not have time to follow up on 'em all today but I will soon. Ish.

:The toy photos, FYI, are all my own. Isn't there some "I hereby release into public domain blah blah blah" template for that sort of thing? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

::I don't believe we do, at least to my knowledge. You can just say something like 'Photos by [[User:Repowers]], released to the public domain.'

::I've started adding tags to the pictures you've uploaded, but I'll leave the toy pics alone now. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:39, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

===Slog===
Can you scan a picture of Slog's MTMTE robot mode? I prefer to use some kind of uncluttered 'profile' pic if possible for the main article picture, and comic panels for the fiction section (since there isn't anything there in the Marvel section anyway). Assumign the scan of is good quality, I suggest using the magic wand tool in photoshop to cut out the background, leaving a nice, white crisp background behind the character.

I'm going to request the deletion of the beast mode picture because we can't fit it anywhere in the article, and we should only have one picture up at the start.

Formatting tip - when you don't want images to jut into other article sections or mess up the formatting, use <nowiki>{{-}}</nowiki> instead of a bunch of return key strokes :D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:53, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

==US/UK Navboxes==
Following is the sequence that should be used for the remaining UK stories as their pages are created:

232-235: King Con, Small War, Prime's Rib, Deathbringer

236-239 Wrestling, Way/Savage/Survival

240-242 Back from Dead, Out to Lunch, RAge, Assault

243-245 Resurrection Gambit, Mind Games, Two MEgs, Underworld

246-248 All the Familiar, Demons, Dawn of Darkness, Fallen Star

249-251 Skin Deep, Whose LIfeforce, Greatest Gift, The Void.

252-255 Yesterday's Heroes, Edge of Impact, Shadow of Evil, White Fire

256-261 Perchance, Primal Scream, Starting Over

262-264 Bird of Prey, Two STeps BAck, Break away, Desert Island risks

282-285 Kings of the Wild Frontier, Shut Up, Maneuvers, Assassins, External Forces

286-289 Deadly Obsession ,Lesser Evil, Frontline, INside Story, End of the Road

==Older Discussion==
I'm bringing this up to you since you seem to be the main person integrating them. It seems unelegant, but at the same time the simplest solution. Could their simply be two navboxes on each (relevant) issue page? One for the US comic, and one for the UK?

It looks like the shared stories are summarized under their US issue numbers, using [[Deadly Obsession]] as a single example. It wouldn't be much to edit these pages to make their UK numberings a bit more prominent; a navbox would actually take care of that fine.

It would also require some minor edits to link seperate second-story-only pages to the stories which they share books with. Just something like "UK issue #254 also contained [[White Fire]]." I think that could be fit into the UK navbox, or worked in with the initial information block containing the reprint notice is.--[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 02:36, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:If possible, putting it in a single navbox would be best allowing for as many listings as needed for the various reprints, as well as a "printed with" below the next and previous links. I don't think anything has been reprinted more than three times in a comic series. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:57, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
::Oh lordy lordy, the whole thing's such a headache I don't wanna think about it just now. But you're right, we do need to address it sooner or later, somehow. Someone who knows something about setting up nav boxes should probably decide how it's best done, though.
::There aren't any UK issues with *two* original stories in them, right? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 06:16, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I dunno about the Titan comics, but there was only one Marvel UK comic with more than two TF stories period (issue 232, which had a US story, the end of a UK reprint and the start of a new UK story. I've thought it over, and figured it would be best for one navbox per series instead od one with every comic series the story was printed in. That way, there would only be at most two sets of "next" and "previous" links, which could be done by adding some optional parameters to the current template.
The one problem is how to deal with stories printed in the same issue. Few of the B&W UK strips are multi parters, so some US reprints have three or four UK backup strips. Not to mention the ''Transformers Magazine'' of the current Titan comics. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:06, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:Got it made up. The real beauty is no change need to be made for issues not reprinted in the same series.

{{User:FortMax/Template:Comicnav | Generation 1 (Marvel Comics) | Issues #s 13 - 17 | seriesname=Marvel UK | prev=Man of Iron! | next=Raiders of the Last Ark | issuenumber2=Issue #s 308 - 317 | prev2=In the National Interest | next2=The Big Shutdown! }}

{{User:FortMax/Template:Comicnav | Generation 1 (Marvel Comics) | Issues #s 13 - 17 | seriesname=Marvel UK | prev=Man of Iron! | next=Raiders of the Last Ark }}

--[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:24, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

::Hrm. I'm not sure why we even need to worry about the reprinted stories -- they're just straight reprints of previous stories, right? The chain of links should just run straight through the set of stories once, in the order it was published. Why not just skip the reprints? If we want to record the info, it should just go as a note as on the story's page. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:03, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

:::I was thinking the same thing. The main Marvel Comic page lists everything as issue numbers, but the actual individual pages are made for stories, not issues. So we take Story X. In the UK, Story X is followed by Story Y. In the US, Story Y wasn't printed and story X is followed by Story W. A UK Navbox would, from X's page, link "Y" as "Next->", and the US would link W as "Next->".

:::Now, I'm not very familiar with the original printing format, so this may be all hypothetical. Given what I just pointed out about the organization of the pages... standalone backup strips can either be "pooled", set aside, and then inserted into the "navbox stream" after the main story they backed up. Or, they can (more simply) share story pages with their appropriate main story. My first solution would allow for shorter, more concise story pages, the second would better preserve the issue sequence of the "<-prev/next->" links.

:::I feel like I might not be communicating my ideas properly, so please tell me if I need to clarify! --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 21:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I think I gotcha. It looks like we've already got a precedent, with (for example) "[[Perchance to Dream]]" having its own page. I don't know what else was in those 6 issues, but presumably it was something that's already covered in the US issues.
::::I suppose someone could come into the list link for, say, UK #259, looking for "[[Perchance to Dream]]", only to find "[[Primal Scream]]". ("Perchance" ran #255-260; on our list, it's linked from #255-258.) But anyone with that specific a knowledge of the UK stories will probably be able to figure it out... especially if there's a handy nav box to lead them to the previous and next story.
::::The contents of each UK issue could maybe be summarized along with the "also printed in..." note for the UK, though that's maybe getting a bit unwieldy. Not having a big list of what's in which issue hurts. Does such a thing exist on the net anywhere? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:58, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::If one isn't found by late tonight I'll take a stab at compiling one. I didn't find much on a (very brief) Google search for "transformers uk issue list". The best possible chance I can think of for finding one would... be on Iggy's old links page, and I wasn't able to pull that up on Internet Archive immediately. Like I said, though I'll have more time later tonight. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 22:19, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::Heck, come to think of it? We should just have that list as a wiki page. Then the story pages can just be story pages, instead of trying to describe what parts of what are in which issue (ie, Perchance is spread across 6 issues. Are we gonna have 6 notes on the Perchance page? "#255 had Part 1 of Perchance and the second part of blah blah whichever story". Sounds messy and to be avoided.) Not sure how the issues would link back to it... maybe from the Marvel G1 page. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 22:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Got your list [http://tfarchive.com/comics/marvel/index.php?s=storylist here] --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:05, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

==To-do-list==
Oh, I thought the to-do list was for yourself. You know, like a list of New Years Resolutions. ...you're not one of THOSE people, are you? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:56, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:It is, mostly, yeah. But if anybody wants to pitch in, that'd be nice too. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 03:41, 20 November 2007 (UTC), one of THOSE people.

== Good job ==

Hey nice edits man. You fix grammar too. Also I like the way you always edit things because what you did was impressive.([[User:76.195.186.73|76.195.186.73]] 00:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC))

You're doing a heckuva job, Powersy. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:33, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I just went to fix the 1992 Annual entry after realising my mistake, and you've already done it! Quick work. --[[User:Specimen-17|Specimen-17]] 20:18, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

== Carnivac ==
The deletion of your paragraph wasn't intentional. This is the third time this has happened to me, twice today alone. I initiate an edit, go through all the text carefully to check for spelling, punctuation, etc., and by the time I'm done, someone else has already made another edit. However, when I submit my edit, I get no "out of date version" warning; it's simply processed as normal. As noted on [[User_talk:Apcog|my Talk page]] in a discussion with [[User:M Sipher|Sipher]], the wiki response was very sluggish for me this afternoon, which may or may not have had anything to do with it.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 00:20, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Ah, okay, fair enough. Sorry if I seemed like I was jumping down your throat. :] -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 03:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::No need to apologize; you weren't harsh at all. I'm annoyed with the situation, not the people bringing it to my attention.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 06:33, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Package art ==

[http://www.botchthecrab.com/gallery.asp?gallery=7 This'll help] with the back-of-package art info! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:53, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

==Template names==
Hey, Rob -- you might be done creating nav templates now anyway, but just in case you are planning to do more: I recommend using all lowercase letters in the name of any template you create. It looks like there was already a mixture of cases in the nav templates when you started making yours, but, if template names are always all-lowercase, that just makes it easier to remember. Like all wiki pages with initial capital letters, something like [[Template:Nav-armada]] can be called with <nowiki>{{nav-armada}}</nowiki>, ignoring the initial capital. But if there's a capital letter in the middle somewhere, you ''have'' to match it or the link doesn't work. I'll put it on my todo list to go through all the templates and remove extraneous capital letters... But for future reference, please stick to lowercase. :) --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
:If it comes up again, I'll stick to lower case. I was just following what seemed to be the precedent, but what you say about linking makes a lot of sense. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 06:43, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
You've got some fantastic screencaps from the G1 cartoon on your blog. Any chance we could use some for episode/character pages? -- Repowers 19:23, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:Why, thanks. The site is a little obsession of mine. I'd post more pictures on this wiki, but I haven't had the time. Do have some specific ones in mind you want? --[[User:Suzyprime|Suzyprime]] 19:37, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
::None in particular at the moment -- I was just skimming. Some of the group shots would be good for the main G1 cartoon page. Other than that, every episode page ought to have a couple of screencaps; likewise for character pages. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:54, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Protoform Toys ==

Awww...after all I went through to be sure the parallel versions were all accurate, too. Oh well, at least one of my captions survived, and the individual toy pages are fixed.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:47, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
:My sole purpose in life is to torment you thus! BWAAHAHAHA.
:Seriously... I almost purged the whole section before realizing it is a good idea to at least have some mention of toy incarnations. But IMO it's asking for trouble to have the same info repeated in two places like that. They'll inevitably drift apart. Anyways, what with this whole "World Wide Web" thing, we can just link from one location to the other and save ourselves the trouble! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 16:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
::Ehn, I wasn't objecting to the deletion on principle or anything, just expressing disappointment that I'd expended some effort for nothing. As noted, the fixes still exist on Prime and Starscream's toy pages, so it's not like ''all'' the work was for naught.
::I kinda miss my revised Starscream caption, but I'll live.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

==Show bible==
... came "much, much later"? What, exactly, the ''hell''? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:32, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
:Who on ATT in 1994 had read the show bible? NOBODY, that's who! It was not a consideration until years later. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:37, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

== "error" in Prime spotlight ==

''Bristleback asks a question ("Which is?"), and Birdbrain starts to answer it ("SMASH our way in..."). However, in the following panel, Bristleback is shown finishing Birdbrain's sentence ("...and kill WHOEVER and WHATEVER we find inside!")''

: Not an error, here's why... In the panel before, one of them (not pictured) says "It it him?" [referring to Omega]. Then someone says "Only one way to find out." Then, as above, Bristleback says "Which is?" [referring to how they would find out]. Birdbrain says "Smash our way in" and Bristleback finishes the sentence, "...and kill WHOEVER and WHATEVER we find inside!" In other words, Birdbrain started to answer the question and Bristleback decided to add his 2 cents in.
:I really don't think it's an error, it makes sense to me. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 17:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::So Bristleback doesn't know what they're going to do, and asks, and after three words from Birdbrain he suddenly answers his own question? Given IDW's propensity for screwing up their speech balloons, combined with the obscurity of the individual Pretender Monsters, I think it's an honest error. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 18:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::No biggie. However, they didn't correct it in the TPB. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 22:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Y'know, I was thinking that'd be a good litmus test, actually. In light of that, I'm gonna re-write the note in a more neutral tone. I still think it ''could'' be an error, again owing to the obscurity of the characters, but the lack of a correction makes it a less solid case than I thought it was. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 01:40, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::seems fair. cheers! --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 04:37, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

==Boxart copyright==
If the boxart belongs to either Hasbro or Takara (as boxart generally does), then we normally use the <nowiki>{{hastak}}</nowiki> tag, since it mentions the fair use provision of United States copyright law. But I guess the fair use tag is fine, too :) --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, thanks for the heads-up. I wasn't aware of the difference. Will adjust accordingly! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 02:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

==Something to help your Energon recaps==
I recommend referring to NTFA for the japanese episode names and airdates of both series: 
*[http://www.ntfa.net/ntfa/japan/SLeplist.php Superlink names and airdates]
*[http://www.ntfa.net/ntfa/energon/eplist.php Energon names and airdates]

I've added the info into the pages you've already done, so to simply follow what's already been written I recommend placing the Japanese SL airdate before the US Energon airdate in the Stats section, given that SL aired first and Energon suffered horrible gaps in episodes aired ;) --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:54, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

== How does a plot NOT conclude successfully? ==

I of course feel that the platonic ideal of a plot not concluding successfully in any meaningful fashion whatsoever, a comic that just leaves you scratching your head and wondering why they even roused Rob Ruffolo out of whatever alcoholic haze he was in prior to drawing it, would have to be [[Dreamwave]] [[Micromasters]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:17, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
:Hahahahaha. I was thinking nearly the same thing even as I wrote it. XD -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

=="Worthless piece of stupid trivia?"==
Buddy, I've seen a ''lot'' of "worthless pieces of stupid trivia" on here, of the irrelevant, personal canon, and/or just plain inaccurate kind. A while back, I had a huge debate with some editors on here over a trivia post I made on Blackarachnia's article stating how her telekinesis ''may'' have originated from her mind link with Tarantulas, with them saying that was wrong and had no basis in fact when it was "obvious" that she got it from the Transmetal driver, an opinion that was just as much speculation as they claimed the mind-link thing was. The editors here are mostly idiotic hypocrites that like to toss out anything that doesn't fit into their own "personal canon" as invalid for this wiki. I know for a fact that quite a few RiD fans joke about Scourge having Kelly's DNA in him makes him a transgender (as I said in Scourge's article's discussion, Ben Yee's TF forum made quite a few cracks about that), so it's valid. [[User:64.13.101.210|64.13.101.210]] 00:28, 9 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

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==Rob's Big To-Do List!==
An ever-changing list of stuff that needs taking care of. I'll get to it eventually, but if anyone else wants to pitch in, go for it!

'''General cleanup:'''
* [[Universe (comic)]] issues are still a mess. They should all look like [[G.I._Joe_vs._the_Transformers_II_issue_2|this page]] when all's said and done.
** Overview page looks awful.
** Most issue pages look awful.
** The caption "The universe is very large place." has not been used. SOMETHING MUST BE DONE.
* UK Annual text stories -- which ones fit with the mainline comic?
** [[Trigger-Happy]] - has Megatron and Scoop on Earth, so, no.
** [[The Quest!]] - one of those recap-the-storyline ones.
** [[The Return of the Transformers]]
** [[To a Power Unknown]]
** Headmasters retelling trio
** [[Plague of the Insecticons!]]
** [[Hunted!]]
** [[Missing in Action]]
** [[The Mission]]

* UK Future Autobot stories -- cross-link somehow?
** [[Ark Duty!]]
** [[Prime's Rib]]
** [[Ark Duty]]
** [[Target: 2006]]
** Death's Head / Legacy of Unicron / Space Pirates
** [[Time Wars]]
** Dystopic future saga
** [[Aspects of Evil]]
** [[Peace]]

* [[Energon (mini-comic)]] page doesn't exist at all. WTF, mate?

'''Toyline pages:''' Most of these are just straight lists of toys. They need overview writeups: what common elements did the toys have, standard gimmicks, packaging notes, sub-lines, items of special note, reception by fans and general public, images of some sample toys.
* [[Generation 1 (toyline)]] -- Just about perfect.
* [[Generation 2 (toyline)]] -- needs re-writing, and images.
* [[Movie (toyline)]] -- main line has writeup & images. Many sublines have nothing. Add cross-sells.
* [[Beast Machines (toyline)]] - needs images/cross-sells.
* [[Robots in Disguise (toyline)]] - needs images/cross-sells.
* [[Cybertron (toyline)]] - cleanup, images.
* [[Beast Wars (toyline)]] - cleanup.
* [[Machine Wars]] - needs a few images.
* [[Universe (toyline)]] - Needs more write-up, and nimages. Purple Silverbolt would be ideal. Or catalog.

'''Standard format:'''
* [[Armada (Panini comic)]]

==Comic series organization project==
MARVEL GENERATION ONE
 [[Marvel Comics]] - publisher page. Short overview of the series, and links to:
::[[Generation 1 (Marvel Comics)]] - Series overview page. Covers the US series and the UK series. Needs more images -- UK comic covers in particular.
::[[Generation 2 (Marvel Comics)]] - Series overview page.
::[[G.I. Joe and the Transformers]]
::[[Headmasters (comic)]]
::[[Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)]]
 [[Marvel_Comics_continuity]] - page about the continuity. Still need to link more stuff back to this page.
 http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Marvel_US_issues - not so critical now that everything's got nav boxes.

DREAMWAVE GENERATION ONE
 [[Dreamwave]] - publisher. Lists issues but is mostly about the company.
 [[Dreamwave timeline]]
 [[Dreamwave continuity]]

IDW GENERATION ONE
 [[IDW Publishing]] - publisher page. Intro to rebooted continuity and list of issues ordered by date of publication.
 [[IDW timeline]]
 [[IDW continuity]]

DEVIL'S DUE
 [[Devil's Due]] - publisher page. Short history, list of miniseries.
 [[Devil's Due timeline]] - No timeline page at present.
 [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers continuity]] - Continuity overview page. Also lists the four miniseries. They should all link back to it.

G1 CARTOON
 [[Generation 1 (cartoon)]]
 [[Generation 1 cartoon timeline]]
 [[Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)]]
 [[Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)/src]]
 No continuity page at present.

BEAST ERA CARTOONS
 [[Beast Era]] - short overview page, links to main franchise pages.
 [[Beast Wars (cartoon)]]
 [[Beast Machines (cartoon)]]
 [[Beast Era timeline]] - page doesn't exist yet.
 No continuity page at present.



==Testing Comics nav template for mini-series==

'''''The Transformers: Infiltration''''' is the first in a line of miniseries by [[IDW Publishing]] set in a "re-boot" of the [[Generation 1]] continuity, bringing the presence on [[Earth]] of the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s into the present day and placing the "robots in disguise" concept firmly in the forefront of its narrative. Infiltration is set in the same time period as ''[[Stormbringer|The Transformers: Stormbringer]]'' and both are followed by ''[[Escalation|The Transformers: Escalation]]''.

{{comicnav | IDW continuity | Infiltration | seriesname=IDW continuity | prev= | next=Escalation}}

{|style="margin:0 auto;padding:0 auto" align=center id=toc
!align=center bgcolor=#6699CC|'''''Infiltration'' issues:'''
|-align=center
|| [[Infiltration (issue 0)|#0]] | [[Infiltration (issue 1)|#1]] | [[Infiltration (issue 2)|#2]] | [[Infiltration (issue 3)|#3]] | [[Infiltration (issue 4)|#4]] | [[Infiltration (issue 5)|#5]] | [[Infiltration (issue 6)|#6]]
|}
{{-}}

...man, that doesn't really work, does it. What comes next -- ''Stormbringer''? ''Escalation''? One of the ''Spotlight''s?
:IDW's timeline is epochal, with each successive era marked by it's G1 miniseries. There may be other events that take place between the minis-- even (in the case of Stormbringer) major events but the G1 minis are the 'core' of the brand. We need a markup that recognizes this. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:08, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, that makes sense... so long as they all also link back to a continuity page so the complete picture is available as well. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 15:01, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I know I'm really late, but the IDW TPBs are numbered. Volume 1 is Infiltration, 2 is Stormbringer, and 3 is Escalation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:47, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Ah, handy! Will adjust accordingly. I kinda gave up on the mini-series nav box idea anyway -- it seems a bit like overkill. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:12, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

==Images==
Hi, as the self-appointed pics guy (as I probably upload the most pics here), I'd suggest that you use Photoshop to edit out the backgrounds of the MTMTE scans you upload, so we're left with a nice, white background that matches the default colour of the wiki.

I'd also advise you to use copyright tags when uploading images such as:

<nowiki>{{hastak}}</nowiki> for Hasbro/Takara-owned images such as stock toy photos or screencaps.

<nowiki>{{comicinterior}}</nowiki> for comic page scans (which apply for the MTMTE series).

<nowiki>{{comiccover}}</nowiki> for comic covers.

<nowiki>{{fairuse}}</nowiki> for general pictures relating to Transformers but not exactly owned by Hasbro, or its a legal grey area. This can be used when you upload toy photos that you didn't take yourself.

A tip for recognising artists - [[Don Figueroa]] is VERY prolific in the MTMTE series, and you can tell which works are his by by their big hands with vents on the back of them, which are his trademark. Another trademark of his is cyclindrical piping on the edges of limbs, particularly the thighs. Also, most artists tended to be assigned all the art for a particular subgroup or team.

If in doubt, use <nowiki>{{artist?}}</nowiki> and it will be added to the category of art by undetermined artists.

Finally, I would advise caution in using so many pictures from a single source, as it would be hard to argue fair use. -[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:12, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

:Thanks for the tips. I may not have time to follow up on 'em all today but I will soon. Ish.

:The toy photos, FYI, are all my own. Isn't there some "I hereby release into public domain blah blah blah" template for that sort of thing? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

::I don't believe we do, at least to my knowledge. You can just say something like 'Photos by [[User:Repowers]], released to the public domain.'

::I've started adding tags to the pictures you've uploaded, but I'll leave the toy pics alone now. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:39, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

===Slog===
Can you scan a picture of Slog's MTMTE robot mode? I prefer to use some kind of uncluttered 'profile' pic if possible for the main article picture, and comic panels for the fiction section (since there isn't anything there in the Marvel section anyway). Assumign the scan of is good quality, I suggest using the magic wand tool in photoshop to cut out the background, leaving a nice, white crisp background behind the character.

I'm going to request the deletion of the beast mode picture because we can't fit it anywhere in the article, and we should only have one picture up at the start.

Formatting tip - when you don't want images to jut into other article sections or mess up the formatting, use <nowiki>{{-}}</nowiki> instead of a bunch of return key strokes :D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:53, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

==US/UK Navboxes==
Following is the sequence that should be used for the remaining UK stories as their pages are created:

232-235: King Con, Small War, Prime's Rib, Deathbringer

236-239 Wrestling, Way/Savage/Survival

240-242 Back from Dead, Out to Lunch, RAge, Assault

243-245 Resurrection Gambit, Mind Games, Two MEgs, Underworld

246-248 All the Familiar, Demons, Dawn of Darkness, Fallen Star

249-251 Skin Deep, Whose LIfeforce, Greatest Gift, The Void.

252-255 Yesterday's Heroes, Edge of Impact, Shadow of Evil, White Fire

256-261 Perchance, Primal Scream, Starting Over

262-264 Bird of Prey, Two STeps BAck, Break away, Desert Island risks

282-285 Kings of the Wild Frontier, Shut Up, Maneuvers, Assassins, External Forces

286-289 Deadly Obsession ,Lesser Evil, Frontline, INside Story, End of the Road

==Older Discussion==
I'm bringing this up to you since you seem to be the main person integrating them. It seems unelegant, but at the same time the simplest solution. Could their simply be two navboxes on each (relevant) issue page? One for the US comic, and one for the UK?

It looks like the shared stories are summarized under their US issue numbers, using [[Deadly Obsession]] as a single example. It wouldn't be much to edit these pages to make their UK numberings a bit more prominent; a navbox would actually take care of that fine.

It would also require some minor edits to link seperate second-story-only pages to the stories which they share books with. Just something like "UK issue #254 also contained [[White Fire]]." I think that could be fit into the UK navbox, or worked in with the initial information block containing the reprint notice is.--[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 02:36, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:If possible, putting it in a single navbox would be best allowing for as many listings as needed for the various reprints, as well as a "printed with" below the next and previous links. I don't think anything has been reprinted more than three times in a comic series. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:57, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
::Oh lordy lordy, the whole thing's such a headache I don't wanna think about it just now. But you're right, we do need to address it sooner or later, somehow. Someone who knows something about setting up nav boxes should probably decide how it's best done, though.
::There aren't any UK issues with *two* original stories in them, right? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 06:16, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I dunno about the Titan comics, but there was only one Marvel UK comic with more than two TF stories period (issue 232, which had a US story, the end of a UK reprint and the start of a new UK story. I've thought it over, and figured it would be best for one navbox per series instead od one with every comic series the story was printed in. That way, there would only be at most two sets of "next" and "previous" links, which could be done by adding some optional parameters to the current template.
The one problem is how to deal with stories printed in the same issue. Few of the B&W UK strips are multi parters, so some US reprints have three or four UK backup strips. Not to mention the ''Transformers Magazine'' of the current Titan comics. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:06, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:Got it made up. The real beauty is no change need to be made for issues not reprinted in the same series.

{{User:FortMax/Template:Comicnav | Generation 1 (Marvel Comics) | Issues #s 13 - 17 | seriesname=Marvel UK | prev=Man of Iron! | next=Raiders of the Last Ark | issuenumber2=Issue #s 308 - 317 | prev2=In the National Interest | next2=The Big Shutdown! }}

{{User:FortMax/Template:Comicnav | Generation 1 (Marvel Comics) | Issues #s 13 - 17 | seriesname=Marvel UK | prev=Man of Iron! | next=Raiders of the Last Ark }}

--[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:24, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

::Hrm. I'm not sure why we even need to worry about the reprinted stories -- they're just straight reprints of previous stories, right? The chain of links should just run straight through the set of stories once, in the order it was published. Why not just skip the reprints? If we want to record the info, it should just go as a note as on the story's page. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:03, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

:::I was thinking the same thing. The main Marvel Comic page lists everything as issue numbers, but the actual individual pages are made for stories, not issues. So we take Story X. In the UK, Story X is followed by Story Y. In the US, Story Y wasn't printed and story X is followed by Story W. A UK Navbox would, from X's page, link "Y" as "Next->", and the US would link W as "Next->".

:::Now, I'm not very familiar with the original printing format, so this may be all hypothetical. Given what I just pointed out about the organization of the pages... standalone backup strips can either be "pooled", set aside, and then inserted into the "navbox stream" after the main story they backed up. Or, they can (more simply) share story pages with their appropriate main story. My first solution would allow for shorter, more concise story pages, the second would better preserve the issue sequence of the "<-prev/next->" links.

:::I feel like I might not be communicating my ideas properly, so please tell me if I need to clarify! --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 21:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I think I gotcha. It looks like we've already got a precedent, with (for example) "[[Perchance to Dream]]" having its own page. I don't know what else was in those 6 issues, but presumably it was something that's already covered in the US issues.
::::I suppose someone could come into the list link for, say, UK #259, looking for "[[Perchance to Dream]]", only to find "[[Primal Scream]]". ("Perchance" ran #255-260; on our list, it's linked from #255-258.) But anyone with that specific a knowledge of the UK stories will probably be able to figure it out... especially if there's a handy nav box to lead them to the previous and next story.
::::The contents of each UK issue could maybe be summarized along with the "also printed in..." note for the UK, though that's maybe getting a bit unwieldy. Not having a big list of what's in which issue hurts. Does such a thing exist on the net anywhere? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:58, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::If one isn't found by late tonight I'll take a stab at compiling one. I didn't find much on a (very brief) Google search for "transformers uk issue list". The best possible chance I can think of for finding one would... be on Iggy's old links page, and I wasn't able to pull that up on Internet Archive immediately. Like I said, though I'll have more time later tonight. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 22:19, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::Heck, come to think of it? We should just have that list as a wiki page. Then the story pages can just be story pages, instead of trying to describe what parts of what are in which issue (ie, Perchance is spread across 6 issues. Are we gonna have 6 notes on the Perchance page? "#255 had Part 1 of Perchance and the second part of blah blah whichever story". Sounds messy and to be avoided.) Not sure how the issues would link back to it... maybe from the Marvel G1 page. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 22:47, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Got your list [http://tfarchive.com/comics/marvel/index.php?s=storylist here] --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:05, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

==To-do-list==
Oh, I thought the to-do list was for yourself. You know, like a list of New Years Resolutions. ...you're not one of THOSE people, are you? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:56, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:It is, mostly, yeah. But if anybody wants to pitch in, that'd be nice too. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 03:41, 20 November 2007 (UTC), one of THOSE people.

== Good job ==

Hey nice edits man. You fix grammar too. Also I like the way you always edit things because what you did was impressive.([[User:76.195.186.73|76.195.186.73]] 00:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC))

You're doing a heckuva job, Powersy. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:33, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I just went to fix the 1992 Annual entry after realising my mistake, and you've already done it! Quick work. --[[User:Specimen-17|Specimen-17]] 20:18, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

== Carnivac ==
The deletion of your paragraph wasn't intentional. This is the third time this has happened to me, twice today alone. I initiate an edit, go through all the text carefully to check for spelling, punctuation, etc., and by the time I'm done, someone else has already made another edit. However, when I submit my edit, I get no "out of date version" warning; it's simply processed as normal. As noted on [[User_talk:Apcog|my Talk page]] in a discussion with [[User:M Sipher|Sipher]], the wiki response was very sluggish for me this afternoon, which may or may not have had anything to do with it.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 00:20, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Ah, okay, fair enough. Sorry if I seemed like I was jumping down your throat. :] -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 03:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::No need to apologize; you weren't harsh at all. I'm annoyed with the situation, not the people bringing it to my attention.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 06:33, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Package art ==

[http://www.botchthecrab.com/gallery.asp?gallery=7 This'll help] with the back-of-package art info! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:53, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

==Template names==
Hey, Rob -- you might be done creating nav templates now anyway, but just in case you are planning to do more: I recommend using all lowercase letters in the name of any template you create. It looks like there was already a mixture of cases in the nav templates when you started making yours, but, if template names are always all-lowercase, that just makes it easier to remember. Like all wiki pages with initial capital letters, something like [[Template:Nav-armada]] can be called with <nowiki>{{nav-armada}}</nowiki>, ignoring the initial capital. But if there's a capital letter in the middle somewhere, you ''have'' to match it or the link doesn't work. I'll put it on my todo list to go through all the templates and remove extraneous capital letters... But for future reference, please stick to lowercase. :) --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
:If it comes up again, I'll stick to lower case. I was just following what seemed to be the precedent, but what you say about linking makes a lot of sense. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 06:43, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

==Screencaps==
You've got some fantastic screencaps from the G1 cartoon on your blog. Any chance we could use some for episode/character pages? -- Repowers 19:23, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:Why, thanks. The site is a little obsession of mine. I'd post more pictures on this wiki, but I haven't had the time. Do have some specific ones in mind you want? --[[User:Suzyprime|Suzyprime]] 19:37, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
::None in particular at the moment -- I was just skimming. Some of the group shots would be good for the main G1 cartoon page. Other than that, every episode page ought to have a couple of screencaps; likewise for character pages. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:54, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Protoform Toys ==

Awww...after all I went through to be sure the parallel versions were all accurate, too. Oh well, at least one of my captions survived, and the individual toy pages are fixed.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:47, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
:My sole purpose in life is to torment you thus! BWAAHAHAHA.
:Seriously... I almost purged the whole section before realizing it is a good idea to at least have some mention of toy incarnations. But IMO it's asking for trouble to have the same info repeated in two places like that. They'll inevitably drift apart. Anyways, what with this whole "World Wide Web" thing, we can just link from one location to the other and save ourselves the trouble! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 16:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
::Ehn, I wasn't objecting to the deletion on principle or anything, just expressing disappointment that I'd expended some effort for nothing. As noted, the fixes still exist on Prime and Starscream's toy pages, so it's not like ''all'' the work was for naught.
::I kinda miss my revised Starscream caption, but I'll live.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

==Show bible==
... came "much, much later"? What, exactly, the ''hell''? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:32, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
:Who on ATT in 1994 had read the show bible? NOBODY, that's who! It was not a consideration until years later. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:37, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

== "error" in Prime spotlight ==

''Bristleback asks a question ("Which is?"), and Birdbrain starts to answer it ("SMASH our way in..."). However, in the following panel, Bristleback is shown finishing Birdbrain's sentence ("...and kill WHOEVER and WHATEVER we find inside!")''

: Not an error, here's why... In the panel before, one of them (not pictured) says "It it him?" [referring to Omega]. Then someone says "Only one way to find out." Then, as above, Bristleback says "Which is?" [referring to how they would find out]. Birdbrain says "Smash our way in" and Bristleback finishes the sentence, "...and kill WHOEVER and WHATEVER we find inside!" In other words, Birdbrain started to answer the question and Bristleback decided to add his 2 cents in.
:I really don't think it's an error, it makes sense to me. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 17:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::So Bristleback doesn't know what they're going to do, and asks, and after three words from Birdbrain he suddenly answers his own question? Given IDW's propensity for screwing up their speech balloons, combined with the obscurity of the individual Pretender Monsters, I think it's an honest error. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 18:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::No biggie. However, they didn't correct it in the TPB. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 22:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Y'know, I was thinking that'd be a good litmus test, actually. In light of that, I'm gonna re-write the note in a more neutral tone. I still think it ''could'' be an error, again owing to the obscurity of the characters, but the lack of a correction makes it a less solid case than I thought it was. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 01:40, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::seems fair. cheers! --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 04:37, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

==Boxart copyright==
If the boxart belongs to either Hasbro or Takara (as boxart generally does), then we normally use the <nowiki>{{hastak}}</nowiki> tag, since it mentions the fair use provision of United States copyright law. But I guess the fair use tag is fine, too :) --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:Ah, thanks for the heads-up. I wasn't aware of the difference. Will adjust accordingly! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 02:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

==Something to help your Energon recaps==
I recommend referring to NTFA for the japanese episode names and airdates of both series: 
*[http://www.ntfa.net/ntfa/japan/SLeplist.php Superlink names and airdates]
*[http://www.ntfa.net/ntfa/energon/eplist.php Energon names and airdates]

I've added the info into the pages you've already done, so to simply follow what's already been written I recommend placing the Japanese SL airdate before the US Energon airdate in the Stats section, given that SL aired first and Energon suffered horrible gaps in episodes aired ;) --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:54, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

== How does a plot NOT conclude successfully? ==

I of course feel that the platonic ideal of a plot not concluding successfully in any meaningful fashion whatsoever, a comic that just leaves you scratching your head and wondering why they even roused Rob Ruffolo out of whatever alcoholic haze he was in prior to drawing it, would have to be [[Dreamwave]] [[Micromasters]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:17, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
:Hahahahaha. I was thinking nearly the same thing even as I wrote it. XD -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

=="Worthless piece of stupid trivia?"==
Buddy, I've seen a ''lot'' of "worthless pieces of stupid trivia" on here, of the irrelevant, personal canon, and/or just plain inaccurate kind. A while back, I had a huge debate with some editors on here over a trivia post I made on Blackarachnia's article stating how her telekinesis ''may'' have originated from her mind link with Tarantulas, with them saying that was wrong and had no basis in fact when it was "obvious" that she got it from the Transmetal driver, an opinion that was just as much speculation as they claimed the mind-link thing was. The editors here are mostly idiotic hypocrites that like to toss out anything that doesn't fit into their own "personal canon" as invalid for this wiki. I know for a fact that quite a few RiD fans joke about Scourge having Kelly's DNA in him makes him a transgender (as I said in Scourge's article's discussion, Ben Yee's TF forum made quite a few cracks about that), so it's valid.<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

User talk:64.13.101.210

2008-04-09T00:18:45Z

64.13.101.210:

Fer gods' sake, will you please KNOCK IT OFF?! All this hoopla over one worthless piece of stupid trivia is NOT WORTH IT. Go do something useful instead. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 00:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
: Because it is ''not'' a worthless piece of "stupid trivia"; on Ben Yee's TF board, I've seen plenty of TF and RiD-specific fans joke about Scourge being transsexual because he has Kelly's DNA in him, and it's damn hypocritical for the guys editing it out to do so, especially when those ''same damn jokes'' are on Airazor's and Override's articles without incident.<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

User talk:64.13.101.210

2008-04-09T00:18:15Z

64.13.101.210:

Fer gods' sake, will you please KNOCK IT OFF?! All this hoopla over one worthless piece of stupid trivia is NOT WORTH IT. Go do something useful instead. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 00:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
: Because it is ''not'' a worthless piece of "stupid trivia''; on Ben Yee's TF board, I've seen plenty of TF and RiD-specific fans joke about Scourge being transsexual because he has Kelly's DNA in him, and it's damn hypocritical for the guys editing it out to do so, especially when those ''same damn jokes'' are on Airazor's and Override's articles without incident.<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Scourge (RID)

2008-04-09T00:14:45Z

64.13.101.210: Undo revision 171419 by 74.57.3.251 (talk) Why are you even on here when you should be working, anyway?

Scourge (RID)

2008-04-09T00:08:12Z

64.13.101.210: Undo revision 171417 by 74.57.3.251 (talk) Right. The edit is valid, and you only want it gone because you don't joke about it, yourself

Scourge (RID)

2008-04-09T00:03:08Z

64.13.101.210: Undo revision 171414 by 74.57.3.251 (talk) This coming from someone who doesn't have one, either. Kettle, Pot on line one.

Scourge (RID)

2008-04-08T23:59:07Z

64.13.101.210: Undo revision 171411 by 74.57.3.251 (talk)This isn't just me and some friends, this is quite a few RiD fans that joke about it. It stays

Scourge (RID)

2008-04-08T23:56:37Z

64.13.101.210: Undo revision 171409 by 74.57.3.251 (talk) Enough with the edits, the post is valid and relevant.

Scourge (RID)

2008-04-08T23:54:25Z

64.13.101.210: Undo revision 171406 by 74.57.3.251 (talk)

Scourge (RID)

2008-04-08T23:53:35Z

64.13.101.210: Undo revision 171404 by 74.57.3.251 (talk) A male 'con with human female DNA. People joke about that. It's valid. It stays.

Scourge (RID)

2008-04-08T23:49:56Z

64.13.101.210: Undo revision 171401 by 74.57.3.251 (talk) Then they're hypocrites; read what I said in the discussion before you judge.

Scourge (RID)

2008-04-08T23:45:35Z

64.13.101.210: Undo revision 171395 by 74.57.3.251 (talk) (Edit: It's a valid point, a valid edit, and it should stay, period.

Scourge (RID)

2008-04-08T23:42:40Z

64.13.101.210: Undo revision 171393 by Rosicrucian (talk)

Scourge (RID)

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User talk:Rosicrucian

2008-04-08T23:31:55Z

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==Re: [[Galvatron (G1)]], [[Transformers (2007)]]==
LISTEN UP FOOL, we are having a little bit of conflict at the moment i dont want that, but my idea's are funny and brawl is devastator, but pleese lets not fight any futher {{unsigned|58.165.241.232|07:02, 5 August 2007}}
:Your the fool, i agree with you, the eye joke is funny, and i like to call brawl Devastator, but ahhhhh that dosent give you the right to create talk pages calling people "lunch box" and "snack pack" now pleese excuse me while i ask for you to be blocked for a year, that should tech you, "lunch box" --[[User:Galvason|Galvason]] 08:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, good luck with that. I doubt anyone is going to ban Rosicrucian at all, much less for a year, for reverting a blatantly racist joke that you repeatedly put into the article. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 09:14, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Some confusion here. Galvason was talking to the anonymous editor who put in said racist joke, and was calling for the banning of that very anonymous editor. He was not calling for Rosicrucian to be banned.
:::People, please sign your talk page entries, and please keep discussion on pages where it is relevant. This particular conversation is veering off track from having anything to do with Rosicrucian at all. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 09:26, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

==Tigatron / Polar Claw==
An anonymous editor recently changed one of your additions to the Tigatron article: [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Tigatron&diff=next&oldid=84302]. I don't really remember the story anymore; your version sounds right to me, but I'm not sure enough of it to make the revert myself. Take a look? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:27, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:Easily done. I've elaborated on the production choices that led to this decision, and the lingering link back to the original character reflected in where Tigatron awakened.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 05:20, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

== Furman ==

Really? I didn't think it was that mean, and the guy does write freaking '''EVERYTHING''' what do you think I should do to change it? Like, what was too snarky about it? --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 00:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
:I would've said that it's a bit exaggerated, but considering the man wrote a freakin' "How to draw Transformers" book when he's not an artist, I'd say 70.190's edit were pretty much on the money. Maybe de-snarkicize them a little but not outright remove them. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:33, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
::Awesome, thank you. Though I really wish that bubble bath joke could have stayed. You're probably right though... (sigh) --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 01:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't know, I think I knee-jerked a bit. Feel free to add it back in, I won't touch it. See what others think.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 02:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Nah, it's totally cool. It was kinda snarky, and I am an IP after all. Your version reads a lot more professional, and I think the world will survive without my "Simon Furman wrote the instructions on the back of the TF bubble bath" joke. Thanks again. --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 02:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

==[[wikipedia:Pluralis_majestatis|Pluralis majestatis]]==
Fine... We shall keep to the old captions, although we are not amused by them. --[[User:Lrahaman|Lenny]] 19:00, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

==No More Twinkies for [[user:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]]==
k... sorry. I thought I was allowed to have a bit of fun on Teletraan-1. I guess not? Please ask before taking down my stuff. I'll say yes like 99.9% of the time. --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 16:09, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
:Well, I didn't mark it for deletion, and I don't have the power to take it down. That's pretty much ''why'' I asked on the talkpage first rather than slapping a deletion template on it.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 16:16, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
: If you contributed to this wiki ''before'' creating a self-indulgent image-intensive User page which expanded into a separate disambiguation page, we probably wouldn't mind as much. Okay, we'd still mind the separate disambiguation page. That was just ridiculous. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:19, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
::Ouch... Thanks for that lovely incentive to continue contributing. I've been coming to Teletraan-1 for a long time, and finally signed up ''yesterday''. I admit that prior to creating my User pages, I had only contributed only ''one'' insignificant picture to [[True_One|an article]] marked as needing one, but I can't fix every stub in one day! I thought I could help improve this thing and have a little fun at the same time. Maybe I was wrong, but I'm gonna keep trying to contribute... despite all your wonderful hospitality. --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 16:36, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

== Throw a party ==

Hey! Assaulthead the guy that you know is executed for hacking, beating me up and murdering a teacher! Please don't block me if I promise to behave and don't copy my bigger brother that is forever blocked. Hey why you called me spearhead?(Spearhead 04:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC))

==Rartorata==
I noticed an [[:Image:Ratorata_machine.jpg|image]] you uploaded of Rartorata uses a different spelling of his name than the character's article and the dialogue in the scan itself. Was that intentional (why?), or would you mind re-uploading the scan with a corrected filename? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 23:43, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:Sntint, nobody cares about one letter. As long as the filename is descriptive and is unique. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 23:48, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::It's mainly because like most people ''I can't spell the guy's name worth a damn''. But yeah, I noticed it after uploading and figured that this was the one character I could get away with it on.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 23:54, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::<nowiki>*shrug*</nowiki> Okay. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 13:43, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I fixed it. It took me a whole 30 seconds of work. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 14:16, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

== IDW G1 issues ==

Hi, ''Hearts of Steel'' and IDW's ''Beast Wars'' series, while not part of their main ongoing G1 series, are still part of G1 issues published by IDW, and hense should be included in IDW Generation 1 issues. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 15:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
: But the "IDW Generation 1 issues" category is SPECIFICALLY for issues of their main ongoing G1 series. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
::Eh, yeah I guess it's better than making a "IDW outside of the main continuity Generation 1 issues" category. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 16:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
:::As I said in the edit summary, there ''will'' one day be more Evolutions titles. At such a time we can move them over to there.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:38, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
And for that matter the Beast Wars issues are their own animal, to the point of getting a distinct [[Beast Wars timeline (IDW)|timeline]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:41, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

== stub fixes ==

Changing to the various types of stubs is a good thing. However, while going through, see if the article REALLY is a stub. Many of these seem to be fairly well-filled out articles. Maybe apply the stub to a particular section if it needs it. Thanks. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 01:26, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:As I mentioned on the stub template talkpage, I'm doing this ''entirely'' as just changing one type of stub for another. Otherwise it would be an even more Sisyphean task than it already is. What I'm hoping is that once the stubs are sorted, determining which tags to remove will be easier.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:28, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::Cool, appreciate the work! --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 02:57, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

==AssaultHeadery==
Hey man. You just chased a guy who got blocked here multiple times from here to the Wikipedia. You proved that you know Starcraft by telling don't copy articles from Starcraft Wiki to Wikipedia. Also why most of you Wikians are also at Wikipedia?([[User:76.195.186.73|76.195.186.73]] 00:17, 4 December 2007 (UTC))
:Learn our guidelines or go away, you ludicrous little man.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:34, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
::Hey you followed me to the wikipedia in the first place. Remember Starcraft Shadow of the Xel Naga? You left a trollish remark on TougHHeads talk page.([[User:76.195.186.73|76.195.186.73]] 00:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC))
:::We don't discuss Wikipedia on Wikia talkpages.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Sure we do. We mostly make fun of it.
::::And while the wikia itself has fairly narrow content focus, talk pages are always meta. We dont' pretend not to know who Spider-man is on his talk page, and we don't pretend not to know our trolls are considered major nuisances by other forums (indicating it's not merely a failure to adapt to our particular brand of wiki culture) when discussing possible courses of action either. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:15, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== Spoilers in profiles ==

For fuck's sake, stop putting spoilers in the character profiles! Those go in the Fiction sections, and always with the <nowiki>{{spoiler}}</nowiki> template. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 01:09, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

== I can has stubs now? ==
I have another problem. Maybe it's because i'm a beginner, but I have no idea how to get one of those "stub" signs up. I've had to resort to using the "Report a problem" thing, resulting in people telling me to do it myself. (Yeah,Rosicrucian, I'm talking to you.) Honestly, give me a break! - [[User:Crosshairs-1|Crosshairs-1]] 18:30, 27 January 2008 (UTC)Crosshairs-1
:Templates are used via curly braces (IE <nowiki>{{yourtemplategoeshere}}</nowiki>). Thus, a generic stub gets marked with <nowiki>{{stub}}</nowiki>, a character stub with <nowiki>{{charstub}}</nowiki>, a cartoon episode with <nowiki>{{epstub}}</nowiki>, and a comic issue with <nowiki>{{issuestub}}</nowiki>. Documentation for stub templates can be found at [[template:stub]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:01, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
::You could also find a page marked as a stub, click "edit", and look at the text inside to see how it was marked. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:03, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

== Can we be friends? ==

Tell me if I'm getting annoying, but I'm curious. Where did your name come from? [[User:Florky Man|Mr. Florky]] 16:11, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
:See [[Wikipedia:Rosicrucianism|Rosicrucianism]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:22, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh. Chat with me on my user page often. I don't know why but I like you. By the way....um, how do I say this without it sounding awkward? I can't. So.... Are you a guy or a girl? I don't see any references to your gender anywhere. [[User:Florky Man|Mr. Florky]] 16:25, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

== megatron's head ==

because it has the final head design... which looks MUCH COOLER!

== re: Factions and history ==

u said: Actually, unless I'm mistaken Jhiaxus and Nova Prime just predate the Decepticons, not the Autobots. The Prime, as well as the government of Cybertron, are all Autobots to my knowledge. That seems to be how IDW is playing it.--[[user:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]]Talk 06:24, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

:Take a look at the Galvatron Spotlight. I don't have it in front of me, but he said something like "before factions" referring to the time when he, Nova and Jhiaxus disappeared on the Ark-1. So none of the Dead Universe folks would be aligned with any faction. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 15:31, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

::u said: I'm mainly judging by the fact that we've termed Nova Prime an Autobot on this wiki, and have had a few edits keeping that the case. Bear in mind that being "before factions" could easily just mean that Galvatron predates the Cybertronian civil war, and thus existed when the Autobots were the dominant (and perhaps only) faction.--RosicrucianTalk 15:50, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

:::Could be true, yes. However, is there anything stating explicitly that Nova, etc. were Autobots? Autobot symbol or anything? Would that also make Galvatron an Autobot since he was with their crew? I'll have to look over the Spotlights for Galvatron and Prime when I get home for insight. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 16:34, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

== Animated Soundwave caption ==

...thank you.

I can't remember the last time I actually '''LAUGHED ALOUD''' while reading the wiki. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:43, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

==Lego Caption==
Thank you for the caption on my user page, sir. {snicker} [[User:JW|JW]] 02:01, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

== "No more chin jokes." ==

Slag. I like chin jokes. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|MR. Q (I'm a GUY)]] 15:43, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:There's already ''at least'' a dozen chin jokes on Transformers Animated pages. Every day, someone tries to add another three or so. It's getting old.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:46, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::So are all the jabs at "Geewunners" and the fanbase that doesn't share an Allspark mindset in general. While there was a minor crackdown on these, the site is still full of them. At least the chin jokes don't target people, and are actually amusing to people who aren't circlejerks.{{unsigned|143.239.7.2}}

== Chevy Autobots and Allspark Highway ==

Where do I type in the code for the Ratchet level in Allspark Highway and Why doesn't the link to the Chevy Autobots game work? [[User:Inferno'sQueen|MR. Q (I'm a GUY)]] 15:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:...why are you asking me? Do I look like Hasbro web game technical support?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::Ummmmm.... Yes?... No?... Maybe?... [[User:Inferno'sQueen|MR. Q (I'm a GUY)]] 15:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:::How do you get that tiny link to your talk page in your signature? Do you just type it out every time? [[User:Inferno'sQueen|MR. Q (I'm a GUY)]] 16:13, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Go to '''My Preferences''' and put a check in '''Raw signature'''. Then in the '''Nickname''' box paste the following (modified to suit your username, of course) <nowiki>[[User:Yourusernamegoeshere|Optionaltext]][[User Talk:Yourusernamegoeshere|Talk]]</nowiki>. That ought to do it.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:25, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks! [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Mr.Q-Guy]][[User Talk:Inferno'sQueen|Talk]]. 16:35, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

== Sorry about that. ==

Didn't know the PNG's were causing problems. My bad --[[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 16:21, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

==Tf:animated,what the hell man?==
And how does a UPC code not match "your" requirements?

==Okay==
Okay my bad,i got a little pissed off by the fact that no other incorrect info here gets corrected,but something which has been tracked for confirmation immediately gets wiped away. --[[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 14:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

----
Okay,but there is still a bunch of others lacking,for example the Deluxe Bulkhead figure,but i'll keep it in mind and not place the names back untill a new source pops up.

The fact that he's absent from the list. [[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 14:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay first of all,what do you mean by breaking the fourth wall? and second,the box has leaked into several stores in singapore and america,i'm pretty sure i know what i'm reading on that box.{{unsigned|Rhinox555|00:22, 26 March 2008}}

== what are you tlking about? ==

What are you talking about? I always check my talk page! I only check when it says that i have a new message though. Anyway howd u find me user?

[[User:Destro oy|Destro oy]] 21:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)Destro Oy
:I am talking about how you kept changing captions even after we requested you stop.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:52, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

== Best of Simon Furman ==

(this was also posted on the BoSF talk page)
Ro, maybe the bad transfers should be mentioned in the items of note? I actually don't have the collection, so I can't comment. Also, is the cover I posted the correct cover? --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 16:12, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:I can't speak to the Best of Simon Furman, only the Prime/Megatron one. It was in particular the Armada issues. I think some of the transfers might have been okay, just the Sarracini era ones were ass. I don't own the book though so I can't check.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:26, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

==Banning==
How do you ban people's accounts? [[User:71.62.192.242|71.62.192.242]] 20:40, 31 March 2008 (UTC)Crosshairs-1
:Beg pardon?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
::71.62.192.242,only admins can do that,why? [[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 20:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Shall we start the countdown now? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:[[Countdown to Extinction|Countdown to what?]] [[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 21:51, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

==Report abuse==
You're an admin right? i woud hereby like to report [[user:Interrobang|Interrobang]] for constantly changing articles to hurtful content at the [[hasbro]] article. I find it offensive that discrimination against the physicly handicapped is accepted here. [[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 22:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:I am not in any way an admin.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
::Oh,i generally assumed so because you often correct mistakes and give warnings to members. Any idea who i can contact? [[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 22:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Everyone around here puts in their two cents on issues and policy, and if a repeated edit is problematic will often leave a note on someone's talkpage to knock that crap off. The difference between an ordinary user telling you that and an admin telling you that is that if you laugh off the admin you're probably getting a block. With ordinary users, it's more based off of consensus so if a bunch of different users are reverting you it's often best to take a step back and think about ''why''.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

==Trivia==

The site is full of Trivia such as that, and lot of it is hardly more than speculative. I find it hard to believe Transformers Animated, despite being released soon after Gurren Lagann, wasn't influenced by it's art-style in the slightest. Not to mention that we know for a FACT that it references Macross, and having both a device very similiar to the Lagann(Headmaster) AND Kamina shades in the same show makes it unlikely to be a coincidence. Stop being a circlejerk. There's plenty of Trivia that's at least as bad that doesn't get changed.

I'd like to add that you have some positively ridiculous references like Bulkhead's costume resembling that of a Peanuts' character - and pointing out that it was a coincidence, and most likely not a reference. Why hasn't this been removed? It'd be pretty anal wouldn't it?

And why are almost all of these references WESTERN? The TF Wiki has always been laughably anti-Japanese, I don't suppose you remember the LEO PRIME incident? This is the kind of shit that really needs to stop, not pointing out very notable and probable references.{{unsigned|143.239.7.2}}
:Actually, we had a rather long discussion about Bulkhead's Halloween costume on the talk page. Additionally, this is an English language wiki, so that is what we'll focus on. And to the Japanese bias, forgive us, but there has been some [[Kiss Players|questionable]] material sent out, not to mention the whole UT dubbing and continuity headaches. That being said, your use of language is on the verge of getting you a ban. I'm more tolerant of arguments have worked on a few wikis, but a lot of people here are aren't. Tone down you language, and bring it up on the talk pages of the relevant articles. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 23:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:Well then, if you're accusing us of being anti-Japanese and referencing the "Leo Prime" incident as you call it, you've probably been here for quite some time.

:However, you'll notice that it's not just me who thinks your edits don't add anything to the articles in question.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:17, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

::No, I also noted the king of all Circlejerks, M Sipher, reverting them to. Note that I called you a "circlejerk" implying there were others in your circle. Additionally, since you ARE circlejerks, having discussion on

:I also noted that you called me a "Japanophile". Mature. The TF Wiki has a reputation on other sites for being full of Circlejerks, so that was hardly uncalled for. So I'm also going to call you a Reverse Weeaboo(who are twice as annoying as twice as common as Bleach/DBZ/Death Note obsessives).

:I pointed out 3 Gurren Lagann references that are brought up everywhere BUT here - Prowl's Kamina shades, Soundwave's Kamina shades, and the fact that Headmaster is based heavily on the Lagann(they're even a similiar size and colour). I like plenty of other mecha related anime other than Gurren Lagann, but the references stood out referencing anything more than obscure than it will have the anti-Weeaboo clowns on my back even quicker than you were. All of these are valid references, and more notable than a highly speculative Peanuts reference, no matter how much you discussed it.

:Pointing out Gurren Lagann being referenced on a Gurren Lagann wiki wouldn't work the same way, do you even think before you type? Come on.

:The poor quality of some Japanese material is no excuse for this bias. Why are you referencing things like Jurassic Park left and right, but not the mecha anime that inspired and gave shaped to Transformers as we know it? I bet if I go to Galax- oops sorry CYBERTRON PRIME'S page there isn't going to be a single mention of his uncanny resemblance to Gao Gai Gar. Some of you are stupid enough to believe that UT era Transformers sucked because it was an anime, but TF Animated, made IN AMERIKKA(lol at all the asian names being involved with it) is superior because it's western; so I'm not sure where to start.{{unsigned|143.239.7.2}}
::Wait, wait, "there isn't going to be a single mention of his uncanny resemblance to GaoGaiGar"? Only if "uncanny" now means "extremely cursory"... He has upturned wings and headfins. No drill knees. No lion chest (indeed, not even a protruding chest that could be interpreted as similar). No transformation similarities. Nothing else. I must question the value of your judgements based on that alone.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 02:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Not to mention we've got an entire page dedicated to Transformers' kissing cousins franchise [[Brave]] which makes note of the exact GaoGaiGar connection he mentions.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
::If you've come out here with guns a-blazing calling everyone who disagrees with you "circlejerks" I hardly think I am being immature or escalating this little war of words by calling you a "Japanophile" when... er... you really like Japanese culture and are blaming us for not featuring more of it. I certainly don't think it's even half as inflammatory as what you've been dishing out on talkpages.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:41, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:1) Anti-Japan bias? You clearly have never looked at the [[Energon (cartoon)]] pages. Trust me, we call 'em as we see 'em, regardless of country of origin.
:2) Please stop trying to use the phrase "circle jerk". You clearly have no idea what it means or how it's used in context, and it's kind of embarrassing to watch. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
::: I know what Circlejerk means. The fact is that certain references are allowed up because they're made by well recognised . Why should someone have to earn "respect" to point out obvious references? There's this set idea of what Transformers and the Transformers fandom is on this Wiki that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how it actually is. You all wank each other off dropping these jokes and references aimed at those who don't view it that way.

:::I hate Encyclopedia Dramatica to bits, because they are in fact massive Circle Jerks(harassing some people while praising each other and their grossly overweight mistress GirlVinyl), but oddly they seemed to describe it well enough -

:::"Circle jerks OTI

:::Online, a circle jerk is a bizarre internets ritual which involves 13 year old boys gathering on BBS, AOL, and chat to banter with fervour about their particular fandom. When witnessing a circle jerk an outsider should not provoke the fanboys with dissident views as it is akin to instigating a shark feeding frenzy. "

:::And if that's true about country of origin - explain the Lio Convoy fiasco, please? There are at least SOME high level editors who instigate an anti-J bias on at least SOME aspects of the Transformers franchise/fandom. Why is it that you acknowledge minor mainstream western references that appear in Transformers, but not the many ones that come from Mecha anime?{{unsigned|143.239.7.2}}
::::The "Lio Convoy fiasco" was because his official English name was Leo Prime at that point in time. We're an English Wiki, and we use English names when possible. If we were as profoundly anti-Japanese as you claim, then why would we be having article titles such as [[Dark Nitro Convoy]] or [[Simon Belmondo]]?

::::I'm sorry if the fact that there's no anti-Japan conspiracy disappoints you. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:34, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

::::Seriously. You're repeatedly showing that you don't understand the phrase. Lemme clue ya in a bit: ''jerk'' doesn't refer to a person at all. You're pullin' a "[[:wikipedia:Biff Tannen|make like a tree and get out of here]]" and it's really making you look dumb.
::::And y'know what? When I find myself starting to get embroiled in a stupid, pointless argument like this on the Wiki, you know what I do? I just drop it completely and go do something else entirely. Either I go to some unrelated Wiki topic and contribute something ''useful'', or I move on to another activity entirely. Use your discretion accordingly. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 02:43, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

:::::Much as I don't want to belabor this issue, I think he actually DOES know what the phrase means (or at least recognizes that the "jerk" involved is a verb, not a noun), considering his accusation that the regulars "wank each other off" with references only understood among themselves. His use of "jerk" as a noun was an attempt to play on words, not an act of total ignorance. For whatever it's worth and all.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 02:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::"Circlejerk", the term he uses, basically refers to situations where a group of people do the same thing and essentially congratulate each other while doing little else. Of course, our dear banned anon doesn't use it correctly, using it to refer to individuals. We'll ignore the fact that not everybody here is part of WiiGii!; makes it harder for such people to develop conspiracy theories about how Walky rules the Wiki with an iron fist and WiiGii! minions. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, I didn't say he'd ''successfully'' made a play on words, only that he wasn't speaking out of total ignorance of the actual meaning of the phrase. He was attempting to use "jerk" as a noun to refer to people who engage in circle-jerking, obviously. That his attitude was based on ill-founded preconceptions of the wiki's population wasn't my point.

:::::::......

:::::::Wait, you mean Walky '''doesn't''' rule the wiki with an iron fist and WiiGii! minions? My faith in him is ''so'' shaken now.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 03:46, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I am vaguely amused that nearly all of this little culture war played out on my talkpage.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 03:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:Wear the badge with pride, soldier.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 03:57, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I find it odd that we continued the discussion well after the guy was banned. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 04:44, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

==RiD Scourge trivia edit==
There's no reason why my edit to RiD Scourge's trivia should be deleted; it is a valid point that fans ''have'' joked about, and it is hypocritical to ''not'' allow it when similar "jokes" have been made on Airazor's and Override's articles. Seriously, RiD Scourge is a "male" Decepticon with human ''female'' DNA in his biosignature; how can anyone ''not'' joke about that in regards to his gender? [[User:64.13.101.210|64.13.101.210]] 23:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

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==Re: [[Galvatron (G1)]], [[Transformers (2007)]]==
LISTEN UP FOOL, we are having a little bit of conflict at the moment i dont want that, but my idea's are funny and brawl is devastator, but pleese lets not fight any futher {{unsigned|58.165.241.232|07:02, 5 August 2007}}
:Your the fool, i agree with you, the eye joke is funny, and i like to call brawl Devastator, but ahhhhh that dosent give you the right to create talk pages calling people "lunch box" and "snack pack" now pleese excuse me while i ask for you to be blocked for a year, that should tech you, "lunch box" --[[User:Galvason|Galvason]] 08:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, good luck with that. I doubt anyone is going to ban Rosicrucian at all, much less for a year, for reverting a blatantly racist joke that you repeatedly put into the article. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 09:14, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Some confusion here. Galvason was talking to the anonymous editor who put in said racist joke, and was calling for the banning of that very anonymous editor. He was not calling for Rosicrucian to be banned.
:::People, please sign your talk page entries, and please keep discussion on pages where it is relevant. This particular conversation is veering off track from having anything to do with Rosicrucian at all. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 09:26, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

==Tigatron / Polar Claw==
An anonymous editor recently changed one of your additions to the Tigatron article: [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Tigatron&diff=next&oldid=84302]. I don't really remember the story anymore; your version sounds right to me, but I'm not sure enough of it to make the revert myself. Take a look? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:27, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:Easily done. I've elaborated on the production choices that led to this decision, and the lingering link back to the original character reflected in where Tigatron awakened.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 05:20, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

== Furman ==

Really? I didn't think it was that mean, and the guy does write freaking '''EVERYTHING''' what do you think I should do to change it? Like, what was too snarky about it? --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 00:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
:I would've said that it's a bit exaggerated, but considering the man wrote a freakin' "How to draw Transformers" book when he's not an artist, I'd say 70.190's edit were pretty much on the money. Maybe de-snarkicize them a little but not outright remove them. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:33, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
::Awesome, thank you. Though I really wish that bubble bath joke could have stayed. You're probably right though... (sigh) --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 01:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't know, I think I knee-jerked a bit. Feel free to add it back in, I won't touch it. See what others think.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 02:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Nah, it's totally cool. It was kinda snarky, and I am an IP after all. Your version reads a lot more professional, and I think the world will survive without my "Simon Furman wrote the instructions on the back of the TF bubble bath" joke. Thanks again. --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 02:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

==[[wikipedia:Pluralis_majestatis|Pluralis majestatis]]==
Fine... We shall keep to the old captions, although we are not amused by them. --[[User:Lrahaman|Lenny]] 19:00, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

==No More Twinkies for [[user:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]]==
k... sorry. I thought I was allowed to have a bit of fun on Teletraan-1. I guess not? Please ask before taking down my stuff. I'll say yes like 99.9% of the time. --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 16:09, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
:Well, I didn't mark it for deletion, and I don't have the power to take it down. That's pretty much ''why'' I asked on the talkpage first rather than slapping a deletion template on it.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 16:16, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
: If you contributed to this wiki ''before'' creating a self-indulgent image-intensive User page which expanded into a separate disambiguation page, we probably wouldn't mind as much. Okay, we'd still mind the separate disambiguation page. That was just ridiculous. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:19, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
::Ouch... Thanks for that lovely incentive to continue contributing. I've been coming to Teletraan-1 for a long time, and finally signed up ''yesterday''. I admit that prior to creating my User pages, I had only contributed only ''one'' insignificant picture to [[True_One|an article]] marked as needing one, but I can't fix every stub in one day! I thought I could help improve this thing and have a little fun at the same time. Maybe I was wrong, but I'm gonna keep trying to contribute... despite all your wonderful hospitality. --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 16:36, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

== Throw a party ==

Hey! Assaulthead the guy that you know is executed for hacking, beating me up and murdering a teacher! Please don't block me if I promise to behave and don't copy my bigger brother that is forever blocked. Hey why you called me spearhead?(Spearhead 04:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC))

==Rartorata==
I noticed an [[:Image:Ratorata_machine.jpg|image]] you uploaded of Rartorata uses a different spelling of his name than the character's article and the dialogue in the scan itself. Was that intentional (why?), or would you mind re-uploading the scan with a corrected filename? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 23:43, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:Sntint, nobody cares about one letter. As long as the filename is descriptive and is unique. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 23:48, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::It's mainly because like most people ''I can't spell the guy's name worth a damn''. But yeah, I noticed it after uploading and figured that this was the one character I could get away with it on.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 23:54, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::<nowiki>*shrug*</nowiki> Okay. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 13:43, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I fixed it. It took me a whole 30 seconds of work. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 14:16, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

== IDW G1 issues ==

Hi, ''Hearts of Steel'' and IDW's ''Beast Wars'' series, while not part of their main ongoing G1 series, are still part of G1 issues published by IDW, and hense should be included in IDW Generation 1 issues. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 15:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
: But the "IDW Generation 1 issues" category is SPECIFICALLY for issues of their main ongoing G1 series. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
::Eh, yeah I guess it's better than making a "IDW outside of the main continuity Generation 1 issues" category. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 16:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
:::As I said in the edit summary, there ''will'' one day be more Evolutions titles. At such a time we can move them over to there.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:38, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
And for that matter the Beast Wars issues are their own animal, to the point of getting a distinct [[Beast Wars timeline (IDW)|timeline]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:41, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

== stub fixes ==

Changing to the various types of stubs is a good thing. However, while going through, see if the article REALLY is a stub. Many of these seem to be fairly well-filled out articles. Maybe apply the stub to a particular section if it needs it. Thanks. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 01:26, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:As I mentioned on the stub template talkpage, I'm doing this ''entirely'' as just changing one type of stub for another. Otherwise it would be an even more Sisyphean task than it already is. What I'm hoping is that once the stubs are sorted, determining which tags to remove will be easier.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:28, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::Cool, appreciate the work! --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 02:57, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

==AssaultHeadery==
Hey man. You just chased a guy who got blocked here multiple times from here to the Wikipedia. You proved that you know Starcraft by telling don't copy articles from Starcraft Wiki to Wikipedia. Also why most of you Wikians are also at Wikipedia?([[User:76.195.186.73|76.195.186.73]] 00:17, 4 December 2007 (UTC))
:Learn our guidelines or go away, you ludicrous little man.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:34, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
::Hey you followed me to the wikipedia in the first place. Remember Starcraft Shadow of the Xel Naga? You left a trollish remark on TougHHeads talk page.([[User:76.195.186.73|76.195.186.73]] 00:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC))
:::We don't discuss Wikipedia on Wikia talkpages.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Sure we do. We mostly make fun of it.
::::And while the wikia itself has fairly narrow content focus, talk pages are always meta. We dont' pretend not to know who Spider-man is on his talk page, and we don't pretend not to know our trolls are considered major nuisances by other forums (indicating it's not merely a failure to adapt to our particular brand of wiki culture) when discussing possible courses of action either. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:15, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== Spoilers in profiles ==

For fuck's sake, stop putting spoilers in the character profiles! Those go in the Fiction sections, and always with the <nowiki>{{spoiler}}</nowiki> template. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 01:09, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

== I can has stubs now? ==
I have another problem. Maybe it's because i'm a beginner, but I have no idea how to get one of those "stub" signs up. I've had to resort to using the "Report a problem" thing, resulting in people telling me to do it myself. (Yeah,Rosicrucian, I'm talking to you.) Honestly, give me a break! - [[User:Crosshairs-1|Crosshairs-1]] 18:30, 27 January 2008 (UTC)Crosshairs-1
:Templates are used via curly braces (IE <nowiki>{{yourtemplategoeshere}}</nowiki>). Thus, a generic stub gets marked with <nowiki>{{stub}}</nowiki>, a character stub with <nowiki>{{charstub}}</nowiki>, a cartoon episode with <nowiki>{{epstub}}</nowiki>, and a comic issue with <nowiki>{{issuestub}}</nowiki>. Documentation for stub templates can be found at [[template:stub]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:01, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
::You could also find a page marked as a stub, click "edit", and look at the text inside to see how it was marked. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:03, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

== Can we be friends? ==

Tell me if I'm getting annoying, but I'm curious. Where did your name come from? [[User:Florky Man|Mr. Florky]] 16:11, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
:See [[Wikipedia:Rosicrucianism|Rosicrucianism]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:22, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh. Chat with me on my user page often. I don't know why but I like you. By the way....um, how do I say this without it sounding awkward? I can't. So.... Are you a guy or a girl? I don't see any references to your gender anywhere. [[User:Florky Man|Mr. Florky]] 16:25, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

== megatron's head ==

because it has the final head design... which looks MUCH COOLER!

== re: Factions and history ==

u said: Actually, unless I'm mistaken Jhiaxus and Nova Prime just predate the Decepticons, not the Autobots. The Prime, as well as the government of Cybertron, are all Autobots to my knowledge. That seems to be how IDW is playing it.--[[user:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]]Talk 06:24, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

:Take a look at the Galvatron Spotlight. I don't have it in front of me, but he said something like "before factions" referring to the time when he, Nova and Jhiaxus disappeared on the Ark-1. So none of the Dead Universe folks would be aligned with any faction. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 15:31, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

::u said: I'm mainly judging by the fact that we've termed Nova Prime an Autobot on this wiki, and have had a few edits keeping that the case. Bear in mind that being "before factions" could easily just mean that Galvatron predates the Cybertronian civil war, and thus existed when the Autobots were the dominant (and perhaps only) faction.--RosicrucianTalk 15:50, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

:::Could be true, yes. However, is there anything stating explicitly that Nova, etc. were Autobots? Autobot symbol or anything? Would that also make Galvatron an Autobot since he was with their crew? I'll have to look over the Spotlights for Galvatron and Prime when I get home for insight. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 16:34, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

== Animated Soundwave caption ==

...thank you.

I can't remember the last time I actually '''LAUGHED ALOUD''' while reading the wiki. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:43, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

==Lego Caption==
Thank you for the caption on my user page, sir. {snicker} [[User:JW|JW]] 02:01, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

== "No more chin jokes." ==

Slag. I like chin jokes. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|MR. Q (I'm a GUY)]] 15:43, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:There's already ''at least'' a dozen chin jokes on Transformers Animated pages. Every day, someone tries to add another three or so. It's getting old.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:46, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::So are all the jabs at "Geewunners" and the fanbase that doesn't share an Allspark mindset in general. While there was a minor crackdown on these, the site is still full of them. At least the chin jokes don't target people, and are actually amusing to people who aren't circlejerks.{{unsigned|143.239.7.2}}

== Chevy Autobots and Allspark Highway ==

Where do I type in the code for the Ratchet level in Allspark Highway and Why doesn't the link to the Chevy Autobots game work? [[User:Inferno'sQueen|MR. Q (I'm a GUY)]] 15:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:...why are you asking me? Do I look like Hasbro web game technical support?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::Ummmmm.... Yes?... No?... Maybe?... [[User:Inferno'sQueen|MR. Q (I'm a GUY)]] 15:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
:::How do you get that tiny link to your talk page in your signature? Do you just type it out every time? [[User:Inferno'sQueen|MR. Q (I'm a GUY)]] 16:13, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Go to '''My Preferences''' and put a check in '''Raw signature'''. Then in the '''Nickname''' box paste the following (modified to suit your username, of course) <nowiki>[[User:Yourusernamegoeshere|Optionaltext]][[User Talk:Yourusernamegoeshere|Talk]]</nowiki>. That ought to do it.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:25, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks! [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Mr.Q-Guy]][[User Talk:Inferno'sQueen|Talk]]. 16:35, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

== Sorry about that. ==

Didn't know the PNG's were causing problems. My bad --[[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 16:21, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

==Tf:animated,what the hell man?==
And how does a UPC code not match "your" requirements?

==Okay==
Okay my bad,i got a little pissed off by the fact that no other incorrect info here gets corrected,but something which has been tracked for confirmation immediately gets wiped away. --[[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 14:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

----
Okay,but there is still a bunch of others lacking,for example the Deluxe Bulkhead figure,but i'll keep it in mind and not place the names back untill a new source pops up.

The fact that he's absent from the list. [[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 14:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay first of all,what do you mean by breaking the fourth wall? and second,the box has leaked into several stores in singapore and america,i'm pretty sure i know what i'm reading on that box.{{unsigned|Rhinox555|00:22, 26 March 2008}}

== what are you tlking about? ==

What are you talking about? I always check my talk page! I only check when it says that i have a new message though. Anyway howd u find me user?

[[User:Destro oy|Destro oy]] 21:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)Destro Oy
:I am talking about how you kept changing captions even after we requested you stop.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:52, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

== Best of Simon Furman ==

(this was also posted on the BoSF talk page)
Ro, maybe the bad transfers should be mentioned in the items of note? I actually don't have the collection, so I can't comment. Also, is the cover I posted the correct cover? --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 16:12, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:I can't speak to the Best of Simon Furman, only the Prime/Megatron one. It was in particular the Armada issues. I think some of the transfers might have been okay, just the Sarracini era ones were ass. I don't own the book though so I can't check.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:26, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

==Banning==
How do you ban people's accounts? [[User:71.62.192.242|71.62.192.242]] 20:40, 31 March 2008 (UTC)Crosshairs-1
:Beg pardon?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
::71.62.192.242,only admins can do that,why? [[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 20:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Shall we start the countdown now? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:[[Countdown to Extinction|Countdown to what?]] [[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 21:51, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

==Report abuse==
You're an admin right? i woud hereby like to report [[user:Interrobang|Interrobang]] for constantly changing articles to hurtful content at the [[hasbro]] article. I find it offensive that discrimination against the physicly handicapped is accepted here. [[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 22:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:I am not in any way an admin.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
::Oh,i generally assumed so because you often correct mistakes and give warnings to members. Any idea who i can contact? [[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 22:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Everyone around here puts in their two cents on issues and policy, and if a repeated edit is problematic will often leave a note on someone's talkpage to knock that crap off. The difference between an ordinary user telling you that and an admin telling you that is that if you laugh off the admin you're probably getting a block. With ordinary users, it's more based off of consensus so if a bunch of different users are reverting you it's often best to take a step back and think about ''why''.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

==Trivia==

The site is full of Trivia such as that, and lot of it is hardly more than speculative. I find it hard to believe Transformers Animated, despite being released soon after Gurren Lagann, wasn't influenced by it's art-style in the slightest. Not to mention that we know for a FACT that it references Macross, and having both a device very similiar to the Lagann(Headmaster) AND Kamina shades in the same show makes it unlikely to be a coincidence. Stop being a circlejerk. There's plenty of Trivia that's at least as bad that doesn't get changed.

I'd like to add that you have some positively ridiculous references like Bulkhead's costume resembling that of a Peanuts' character - and pointing out that it was a coincidence, and most likely not a reference. Why hasn't this been removed? It'd be pretty anal wouldn't it?

And why are almost all of these references WESTERN? The TF Wiki has always been laughably anti-Japanese, I don't suppose you remember the LEO PRIME incident? This is the kind of shit that really needs to stop, not pointing out very notable and probable references.{{unsigned|143.239.7.2}}
:Actually, we had a rather long discussion about Bulkhead's Halloween costume on the talk page. Additionally, this is an English language wiki, so that is what we'll focus on. And to the Japanese bias, forgive us, but there has been some [[Kiss Players|questionable]] material sent out, not to mention the whole UT dubbing and continuity headaches. That being said, your use of language is on the verge of getting you a ban. I'm more tolerant of arguments have worked on a few wikis, but a lot of people here are aren't. Tone down you language, and bring it up on the talk pages of the relevant articles. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 23:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:Well then, if you're accusing us of being anti-Japanese and referencing the "Leo Prime" incident as you call it, you've probably been here for quite some time.

:However, you'll notice that it's not just me who thinks your edits don't add anything to the articles in question.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:17, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

::No, I also noted the king of all Circlejerks, M Sipher, reverting them to. Note that I called you a "circlejerk" implying there were others in your circle. Additionally, since you ARE circlejerks, having discussion on

:I also noted that you called me a "Japanophile". Mature. The TF Wiki has a reputation on other sites for being full of Circlejerks, so that was hardly uncalled for. So I'm also going to call you a Reverse Weeaboo(who are twice as annoying as twice as common as Bleach/DBZ/Death Note obsessives).

:I pointed out 3 Gurren Lagann references that are brought up everywhere BUT here - Prowl's Kamina shades, Soundwave's Kamina shades, and the fact that Headmaster is based heavily on the Lagann(they're even a similiar size and colour). I like plenty of other mecha related anime other than Gurren Lagann, but the references stood out referencing anything more than obscure than it will have the anti-Weeaboo clowns on my back even quicker than you were. All of these are valid references, and more notable than a highly speculative Peanuts reference, no matter how much you discussed it.

:Pointing out Gurren Lagann being referenced on a Gurren Lagann wiki wouldn't work the same way, do you even think before you type? Come on.

:The poor quality of some Japanese material is no excuse for this bias. Why are you referencing things like Jurassic Park left and right, but not the mecha anime that inspired and gave shaped to Transformers as we know it? I bet if I go to Galax- oops sorry CYBERTRON PRIME'S page there isn't going to be a single mention of his uncanny resemblance to Gao Gai Gar. Some of you are stupid enough to believe that UT era Transformers sucked because it was an anime, but TF Animated, made IN AMERIKKA(lol at all the asian names being involved with it) is superior because it's western; so I'm not sure where to start.{{unsigned|143.239.7.2}}
::Wait, wait, "there isn't going to be a single mention of his uncanny resemblance to GaoGaiGar"? Only if "uncanny" now means "extremely cursory"... He has upturned wings and headfins. No drill knees. No lion chest (indeed, not even a protruding chest that could be interpreted as similar). No transformation similarities. Nothing else. I must question the value of your judgements based on that alone.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 02:24, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Not to mention we've got an entire page dedicated to Transformers' kissing cousins franchise [[Brave]] which makes note of the exact GaoGaiGar connection he mentions.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
::If you've come out here with guns a-blazing calling everyone who disagrees with you "circlejerks" I hardly think I am being immature or escalating this little war of words by calling you a "Japanophile" when... er... you really like Japanese culture and are blaming us for not featuring more of it. I certainly don't think it's even half as inflammatory as what you've been dishing out on talkpages.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:41, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:1) Anti-Japan bias? You clearly have never looked at the [[Energon (cartoon)]] pages. Trust me, we call 'em as we see 'em, regardless of country of origin.
:2) Please stop trying to use the phrase "circle jerk". You clearly have no idea what it means or how it's used in context, and it's kind of embarrassing to watch. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
::: I know what Circlejerk means. The fact is that certain references are allowed up because they're made by well recognised . Why should someone have to earn "respect" to point out obvious references? There's this set idea of what Transformers and the Transformers fandom is on this Wiki that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how it actually is. You all wank each other off dropping these jokes and references aimed at those who don't view it that way.

:::I hate Encyclopedia Dramatica to bits, because they are in fact massive Circle Jerks(harassing some people while praising each other and their grossly overweight mistress GirlVinyl), but oddly they seemed to describe it well enough -

:::"Circle jerks OTI

:::Online, a circle jerk is a bizarre internets ritual which involves 13 year old boys gathering on BBS, AOL, and chat to banter with fervour about their particular fandom. When witnessing a circle jerk an outsider should not provoke the fanboys with dissident views as it is akin to instigating a shark feeding frenzy. "

:::And if that's true about country of origin - explain the Lio Convoy fiasco, please? There are at least SOME high level editors who instigate an anti-J bias on at least SOME aspects of the Transformers franchise/fandom. Why is it that you acknowledge minor mainstream western references that appear in Transformers, but not the many ones that come from Mecha anime?{{unsigned|143.239.7.2}}
::::The "Lio Convoy fiasco" was because his official English name was Leo Prime at that point in time. We're an English Wiki, and we use English names when possible. If we were as profoundly anti-Japanese as you claim, then why would we be having article titles such as [[Dark Nitro Convoy]] or [[Simon Belmondo]]?

::::I'm sorry if the fact that there's no anti-Japan conspiracy disappoints you. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:34, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

::::Seriously. You're repeatedly showing that you don't understand the phrase. Lemme clue ya in a bit: ''jerk'' doesn't refer to a person at all. You're pullin' a "[[:wikipedia:Biff Tannen|make like a tree and get out of here]]" and it's really making you look dumb.
::::And y'know what? When I find myself starting to get embroiled in a stupid, pointless argument like this on the Wiki, you know what I do? I just drop it completely and go do something else entirely. Either I go to some unrelated Wiki topic and contribute something ''useful'', or I move on to another activity entirely. Use your discretion accordingly. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 02:43, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

:::::Much as I don't want to belabor this issue, I think he actually DOES know what the phrase means (or at least recognizes that the "jerk" involved is a verb, not a noun), considering his accusation that the regulars "wank each other off" with references only understood among themselves. His use of "jerk" as a noun was an attempt to play on words, not an act of total ignorance. For whatever it's worth and all.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 02:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::"Circlejerk", the term he uses, basically refers to situations where a group of people do the same thing and essentially congratulate each other while doing little else. Of course, our dear banned anon doesn't use it correctly, using it to refer to individuals. We'll ignore the fact that not everybody here is part of WiiGii!; makes it harder for such people to develop conspiracy theories about how Walky rules the Wiki with an iron fist and WiiGii! minions. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, I didn't say he'd ''successfully'' made a play on words, only that he wasn't speaking out of total ignorance of the actual meaning of the phrase. He was attempting to use "jerk" as a noun to refer to people who engage in circle-jerking, obviously. That his attitude was based on ill-founded preconceptions of the wiki's population wasn't my point.

:::::::......

:::::::Wait, you mean Walky '''doesn't''' rule the wiki with an iron fist and WiiGii! minions? My faith in him is ''so'' shaken now.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 03:46, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I am vaguely amused that nearly all of this little culture war played out on my talkpage.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 03:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:Wear the badge with pride, soldier.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 03:57, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I find it odd that we continued the discussion well after the guy was banned. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 04:44, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

==RiD Scourge trivia edit==
There's no reason why my edit to RiD Scourge's trivia should be deleted; it is a valid point that fans ''have'' joked about, and it is hypocritical to ''not'' allow it when similar "jokes" have been made on Airazor's and Override's articles. Seriously, RiD Scourge is a "male" Decepticon with human ''female'' DNA in his biosignature; how can anyone ''not'' joke about that in regards to his gender?<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Scourge (RID)

2008-04-08T23:28:16Z

64.13.101.210: Undo revision 171382 by Rosicrucian (talk)

Talk:Scourge (RID)

2008-04-08T23:27:05Z

64.13.101.210: /* Oh, the hypocrisy */

I've kept on putting the info that Scourge kept his ambition to overthrow Megatron a secret (from Megatron atleast, he let Mega-Octane in on it). Who keeps deleting it? I think that info should be kept in since it's noted that Armada Starscream kept his desire to overthrow Megatron a secret during Transformers: Cybertron. [[(Username: Omegalink)]]
:If you read the edit comments, you would discover the answer. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:30, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

==Oh, the hypocrisy==
So, one cannot mention the fact that Scourge having a human female's DNA in his biosignature makes him transgendered, yet it's perfectly acceptable to make tranny jokes about Airazor or Cybertron Override? What's up with that? It ''can't'' be because of sensitivity issues, because if anyone's going to be offended at the thought of Scourge being transgendered, then they'd blow a gasket with all of the cracks made on the articles in the Gender-change Characters sub-category. I even changed the Trivia to reflect that it's more of a ''joke'' in the RiD fan community than something people actually ''believe'', and it ''still'' got deleted. That's pretty damn hypocritical, don't you think? [[User:64.13.101.210|64.13.101.210]] 23:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:Airazor and Override both ''actually'' changed gender in the English to Japanese translation (or vice versa in Override's case).--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:: That doesn't mean that saying that some fans joke that Scourge having Kelly's DNA makes him transgendered is less of a valid point. I mean, he's a "male" Transformer with a human ''female's'' DNA in his biosignature; how can anyone ''not'' joke about him being transgendered? Fans ''have'' joked about it before; I've seen it happen on Ben Yee's board (before it was taken down for revisement). So there isn't any reason why it should be deleted. [[User:64.13.101.210|64.13.101.210]] 23:27, 8 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Talk:Scourge (RID)

2008-04-08T23:26:49Z

64.13.101.210: /* Oh, the hypocrisy */

I've kept on putting the info that Scourge kept his ambition to overthrow Megatron a secret (from Megatron atleast, he let Mega-Octane in on it). Who keeps deleting it? I think that info should be kept in since it's noted that Armada Starscream kept his desire to overthrow Megatron a secret during Transformers: Cybertron. [[(Username: Omegalink)]]
:If you read the edit comments, you would discover the answer. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:30, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

==Oh, the hypocrisy==
So, one cannot mention the fact that Scourge having a human female's DNA in his biosignature makes him transgendered, yet it's perfectly acceptable to make tranny jokes about Airazor or Cybertron Override? What's up with that? It ''can't'' be because of sensitivity issues, because if anyone's going to be offended at the thought of Scourge being transgendered, then they'd blow a gasket with all of the cracks made on the articles in the Gender-change Characters sub-category. I even changed the Trivia to reflect that it's more of a ''joke'' in the RiD fan community than something people actually ''believe'', and it ''still'' got deleted. That's pretty damn hypocritical, don't you think? [[User:64.13.101.210|64.13.101.210]] 23:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:Airazor and Override both ''actually'' changed gender in the English to Japanese translation (or vice versa in Override's case).--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:: That doesn't mean that saying that some fans joke that Scourge having Kelly's DNA makes him transgendered is less of a valid point. I mean, he's a "male" Transformer with a human ''female's'' DNA in his biosignature; how can anyone ''not'' joke about him being transgendered? Fans ''have'' joked about it before; I've seen it happen on Ben Yee's board (before it was taken down for revisement). So there isn't any reason why it should be deleted.<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Scourge (RID)

2008-04-08T23:22:55Z

64.13.101.210: Undo revision 171377 by Rosicrucian (talk)

Talk:Scourge (RID)

2008-04-08T23:22:06Z

64.13.101.210: /* Oh, the hypocrisy */

I've kept on putting the info that Scourge kept his ambition to overthrow Megatron a secret (from Megatron atleast, he let Mega-Octane in on it). Who keeps deleting it? I think that info should be kept in since it's noted that Armada Starscream kept his desire to overthrow Megatron a secret during Transformers: Cybertron. [[(Username: Omegalink)]]
:If you read the edit comments, you would discover the answer. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:30, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

==Oh, the hypocrisy==
So, one cannot mention the fact that Scourge having a human female's DNA in his biosignature makes him transgendered, yet it's perfectly acceptable to make tranny jokes about Airazor or Cybertron Override? What's up with that? It ''can't'' be because of sensitivity issues, because if anyone's going to be offended at the thought of Scourge being transgendered, then they'd blow a gasket with all of the cracks made on the articles in the Gender-change Characters sub-category. I even changed the Trivia to reflect that it's more of a ''joke'' in the RiD fan community than something people actually ''believe'', and it ''still'' got deleted. That's pretty damn hypocritical, don't you think? [[User:64.13.101.210|64.13.101.210]] 23:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:Airazor and Override both ''actually'' changed gender in the English to Japanese translation (or vice versa in Override's case).--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:: That doesn't mean that saying that some fans joke that Scourge having Kelly's DNA makes him transgendered is less of a valid point. I mean, he's a "male" Transformer with a human ''female's'' DNA in his biosignature; how can anyone ''not'' joke about him being transgendered?<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Talk:Scourge (RID)

2008-04-08T23:21:07Z

64.13.101.210: /* Oh, the hypocrisy */

I've kept on putting the info that Scourge kept his ambition to overthrow Megatron a secret (from Megatron atleast, he let Mega-Octane in on it). Who keeps deleting it? I think that info should be kept in since it's noted that Armada Starscream kept his desire to overthrow Megatron a secret during Transformers: Cybertron. [[(Username: Omegalink)]]
:If you read the edit comments, you would discover the answer. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:30, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

==Oh, the hypocrisy==
So, one cannot mention the fact that Scourge having a human female's DNA in his biosignature makes him transgendered, yet it's perfectly acceptable to make tranny jokes about Airazor or Cybertron Override? What's up with that? It ''can't'' be because of sensitivity issues, because if anyone's going to be offended at the thought of Scourge being transgendered, then they'd blow a gasket with all of the cracks made on the articles in the Gender-change Characters sub-category. I even changed the Trivia to reflect that it's more of a ''joke'' in the RiD fan community than something people actually ''believe'', and it ''still'' got deleted. That's pretty damn hypocritical, don't you think? [[User:64.13.101.210|64.13.101.210]] 23:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:Airazor and Override both ''actually'' changed gender in the English to Japanese translation (or vice versa in Override's case).--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:13, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:: That doesn't mean that saying that some fans joke that Scourge having Kelly's DNA makes him transgendered is less of a valid point. I'm sorry, but I find your reason for not allowing it flawed and hypocritical.<div id="wikia-credits"> From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</div>

Scourge (RID)

2008-04-08T23:07:45Z

64.13.101.210: Undo revision 171361 by M Sipher (talk)

Talk:Scourge (RID)

2008-04-08T23:07:13Z

64.13.101.210:

User talk:M Sipher

2008-04-08T23:01:35Z

64.13.101.210:

AMBIGUITY IS THE FLAVOR OR LIFE!

YOU WOULD ROB US OF OUR MYSTERIES!

Dumping everything written was not required, unless Wikipedia automatically saves what I have written somewhere.

==Autobot Officer==

Uh. Oopsies? Didn't know you were getting pics, too. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 21:50, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

== Americanised spelling ==
Hi there, PacifistPrime the originator of the [[Scale]] article here. Thanks for cleaning up some of the typos. However, is it really neccessary to "correct" all my spelling by changing it to Americanised spelling? Is there actually a rule here that one has to use American spelling instead of, well... to be frank: the way the rest of world's users of the English Language spell? No offence intended, just asking. Let me know. [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]]
:I would think "yes", since this is an Amerocentric wiki and consistency looks professional. I don't realistically believe we'll ever achieve that because there are too many people from too many regions contributing, and further there are a lot of variations in how people type regardless of what area they're from. I can't stand putting two spaces between sentences, but I wouldn't be offended if someone changed a page I worked on to use them. -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

==What edit are you talking about?==
If you're talking about my submission about Blackarachnia's telekinesis, it is NOT baseless speculation; she did use telekinesis in Master Blaster against Rampage, and although they never said where she got it, it is very likely that the psychic link she had with Tarantulas was upgraded during her Transmetalization. Watch the episode; you'll see Blackarachnia's eyes glow green, levitate an I-beam, and fling it at Rampage. The episode was right after Crossing the Rubicon (where Blackarachnia became a TM2), and 18 episodes after Tangled Web, when Blackarachnia forced Tarantulas to terminate their mind link after four episodes (and in case you want to contest it, Other Visits made a mention of the mind link, and how it worked both ways, meaning that BA had some remnants of the link, at the very least some of Tarantulas' memories, if not some other side effects).[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 15:40, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:I'm not Sipher, but I agree that it's speculation that doesn't belong here. Her glowing eyes echo the glowing tendrils involved in Cheetor's TM2-ification. It's a Transmetal 2 thing, and I see nothing whatsoever to connect it with the former mental link she shared with Tarantulas. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 16:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

== Beast Wars Video Game ==

Hey Siph- I finally picked up a copy of the BW Game off e-bay (the original snap I made was from the demo.)

I'm nto very far into it (finding time this summer is tough) but thus far there's been no mention of the Skriix. Were they named in the game booklet or something? ('cuz i lack the booklet.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
: I'm trying to remember WHERE they were named. It might have been promotional materials. It's not in the booklet, I know that... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:52, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
::I theeeeeenk it might've been in one of the pre-mission "briefings" that came up before you started each level. Level... three, I want to say? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:53, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Okay, then I just haven't played it enough to get that info. Thanks!
:::Was there anything of value at all in the booklet that I'm missing out on? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

ok, but what about those pages that are wanted?

you can't say a whole lot about say the third episode of Five Faces of Darkness can you?

other than that, what do you think of my wording?

and btw, theres a weird random page about weather in london but wasn't deleted, joke I'm not aware of maybe?
--[[User:DracoJesi|DracoJesi]] 18:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

==Image upload issues==
Are you having any problems with image uploads? For some reason the wiki isn't uploading my images onto the server. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:28, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

==Twirl toy image==
Can you upload a photo of her robot and vehicle modes? Preferably against a 'neutral' background to fit with the rest of the toy pics. She is too awesome to go without toy photos, methinks. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:24, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

==Megatron's Brazilian Voice Actor==
Howdy ho! Hey, you said that the information about Megatron's voice actor in the film was on the wrong place when i put it on his page.
Where would be the right place?
I was thinking that maybe if i mentioned that José Santacruz plays a REALLY monstrous Megs, much similar to the one Hugo Weaving did, maybe it could go where i originally intended?
Thanks for the time.--[[User:akumateukuma|akumateukuma]] 11:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

==Rartorata==
I don't really appreciate the "fuck you" in your edit summary, Siph. After the last round of discussion in October I thought -- due to lack of voiced disagreement -- that the names were going to be toned down to just ones that sound at least slightly like his real name, which personally I consider quite important. I reverted an anonymous change to the article which went against that "rule", and now you're cursing me out. That is quite uncool. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:21, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

==Create-A-Bot's Alt-modes==

I'm currently reworking the format and putting it in a more relevant form. It's not that it isn't important, but that the method in which it was added was inappropriate. I believe the original version went something like this.

"Just like his heroic counterpart, Create-A-Bot can adapt into numerous forms that can change his status, but several of his forms cannot be accessed in the game, but can be obtained by WiFi points by visiting the official Activition website. The altmodes are..."

and then listed them in a long and hard to read cluster. This not only is confusing, but also give the impression that ALL of the alt-modes have to be unlocked. So, instead of having a list, I am going to add an easier to read section in each article.

- ''Update'': The sections have been finished and added. Sorry about before, I guess I just forgot to leave a message on the Discussion page about it. -- [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

== Prowl Redirect ==

The wiki's lack of warning strikes again. I have made certain to preview every edit I do, looking for a warning that I'm editing an outdated version of the page. While I was making that edit, you redirected the page. When I previewed my edit, it gave no warning that anything had changed, so I submitted it—which undid the move. At least the new redirect included my clean-up...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 05:33, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Robot Heroes ==

There are clear packaging pics of all that are on TFW2005 (I think, I went from Seibertron.com). Not sure where from, but it isn't like they've been secretly leaked to me.

[[User:Ragingtsunami726|Ragingtsunami726]] 02:30, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

: So... stolen. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Here's some links, right here

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=161976

http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=album&album=8828&dispsize=800&start=0

http://seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=12219

Anyone and their mother can see them. I see nowhere that they've been stolen and find it hard to believe Hasbro wouldn't have seen the pics after a day or two, considering Stealth Bumblebee. We've seen Cheetor, Rattrap, and Megatron before anyway. I'm leaving them there. [[User:Ragingtsunami726|Ragingtsunami726]] 02:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:We've seen them because they were ''stooooooooooooooolen''. They have ''noooot'' been officially announced by Hasbro or any official sales solicitations anywhere. Therefore, they are not to be put on this wiki until they are. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:42, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

We saw the prototypes (Not Blackarachnia) months ago. They've been on this Wiki with the exception of Blackarachnia for months. If I absolutly cannot add her and the confirmed lineups, I will change it back to the way it was before. The protos have been and still are available for the rest and have been for months. I think, THINK they were from Botcon, but I'm unsure. Comic-Con? [[User:Ragingtsunami726|Ragingtsunami726]] 02:46, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, several were shown at Botcon 2007; maybe at Comic-Con too, I dunno. But for the ones that weren't, our own policy (specifically [[Help:Coming_soon]] ) means we need to leave them alone until there's something official. Without a hard and fast policy, there's no fair way to declare what should and shouldn't be here when gray areas arise. Besides which, we're not trying to be a news site. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 02:54, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Is that a good compromise? There is no info there that seems unacceptable to me. I apologize for getting off on the wrong foot. The article on Smash Bros. Brawl on Wikipedia has made me defensive. [[User:Ragingtsunami726|Ragingtsunami726]] 03:01, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

==You don't get to annoy and rule-break your way back to good graces.==
Unless you're me, that is. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 18:16, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

==Weird bootleg minicons==
Are you still looking for the various KO minicons? A store by me has the purple/yellow Star Saber team, the constructicon-esque Military team, and the weird combining remolds, if you're still interested. Also, they have inexplicably huge amounts of WCW Nitro cologne. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 20:03, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

==Anchors==
Have you noticed that each anchor line inserts a new blank line into the page formatting? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 08:02, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
:I see four choices: 1) accept the extra blank formatting line, 2) put the anchors at the end of the last line of the preceding section, 3) dirty up the code by replacing the blank formatting lines with the anchor template lines, or 4) put the anchor code at the end of the "title" section it anchors to, which may result in the page link manifesting with its section title scrolled off the screen. For OP G1, for the purposes of getting my Stormbringer trivia edit in, I'm going with 2, for now. I'll fix it when we've got a decision. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 03:15, 14 February 2008 (EST)

== Telemocha episodes ==

Let's see,
:TM-01 Primal: 02
:TM-02 Megatron: 04
:TM-03 Cheetor: 05
:TM-04 Waspinator: 06
:TM-05 Dinobot: 09
:TM-06 Blackarachnia: 10
:TM-07 Corada: 11
:TM-08 Arcadis: 20
:TM-09 Rhinox: 03
:TM-10 Wolfang: 08
:TM-11 Tigatron: 07
:TM-12 Gimlet: 12
:TM-13 Motorarm: 21
:TM-SP Primal: 01 & 15
:TM-SP Megatron: 13 & 14

So far, that's episodes 1-15, 20, and 21 --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

== New Mini-Con ==

Just a heads-up: If you haven't heard yet, there's another Mini-Con/Micron store exclusive due from Japan. Starting March 13, the first 10 customers to buy J-release TF Classics toys at any Toys "R" Us get a free Skyglide, a red recolor of Steelwind from the Clear Skies Team, probably meant to homage Powerglide. (This is from ''Figure King'' #121, according to Autobase Aichi. I don't think there are any images in the article.) I'm not sure where this info should be put into the wiki. There doesn't seem to be enough info to set up an article of its own yet. A "coming soon" notice on the main Mini-Con page until we know more, maybe?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 20:06, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

== Mech Version ==

I tried a Google search and didn't find anything right off. I DID find Yahoo Japan auction listings which listed it in kana as メッキ, which is definitely "chromed" and not "mech". Point me to the site, please?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 21:14, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
: That's the kana on TakaraTomy's page for the set http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/other/index.html ... but isn't that kana "Meh-(shorten next)-ki"? "Mech"? Wouldn't "chromed" be an entirely different set of kana? The ones used for "Chromebite"? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
::No. Check it out by copy-pasting the katakana into the translation box at Jim Breen's. While クローム isn't unknown in Japan (Heck, it's what they call Stylor), the general term for chrome-plated parts is メッキ. (Technically, it's 鍍金 or 滅金, but perhaps because those can also be pronounced "tokin" and mean "pretense", it's usually rendered in katakana.) I first figured that by seeing it used in instructions for snap-together model kits which included such pieces. "Mech" is usually rendered メカ, as in short for "mechanism".--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 00:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

== Heroes of Cybertron Cat? ==

Hey, are you going to populate a Heroes of Cybertron category? Dirge currently is all alone there, and I was about to delete the cat from his page to help clean up the Wanted Cats page. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
: Why the fuck would you delete it? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:: First of all, I'm here to discuss the matter ''before'' I do anything rash, so I don't think I deserve the swearing. Chill.
:: Second of all, I considered deleting the link to the cat because the cat doesn't exist, and there's no demonstrable desire for it to exist, as shown by the fact that there's only one article in it.
:: But, third, if you were intending to fill out the category, so that it reaches the minimum number of entries we require to justify a category, I fully support you in that. I'm just asking if that's your plan, or if you expect other people to take care of it. [[User:JW|JW]] 18:24, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

==this may sound awkward...==
r u a guy or a girl? if it says anywhere on ur talk page, i just kinda skimmed thru it.i always assumed u were a girl, but decided not 2 call u 1. if u know what happened last time [[User:Inferno'sQueen|someone's]] gender was mistaken. [[User:American Girl|American Girl]] 20:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
: Yes, he is a girl. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 20:25, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::You can tell by Sipher's pink armor plating.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:29, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:If he's a girl, then he's in serious need of [[Greg Sepelak|electrolysis]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:08, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

== "lay odds?" ==

what odds? [[User:ShinkisRule|ShinkisRule]] 15:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:y'know, ya still haven't answered the question..[[User:ShinkisRule|ShinkisRule]] 15:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
::And yet by pestering him, ''you'' have.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:25, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:::huh? [[User:ShinkisRule|ShinkisRule]] 19:09, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

== Soundwave edits by 143.239.7.2 ==

Okay, the whole Gurren Lagan/gattai history business is drawing parallels that are either speculative or outside the intended scope of the wiki. (A note might be made somewhere of Soundwave's combining method, though. Is it unique within TF lore?) However, why excise the directly TF-related material—i.e., noting the homages to the original Soundwave?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 23:18, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:I think that's the section Sipher removed due to (as I believe he put it) being "blatantly obvious."--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

==Scourge Edit==

That's the second time that my trivia post for RiD Scourge was deleted. It's a valid point, and I dunno why you guys are refusing to allow it, especially since there seems to be no qualms on here with making tranny jokes about Override or Airazor. Kind of hypocritical, ne?
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Scourge (RID)

2008-04-08T21:02:55Z

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Scourge (RID)

2008-04-08T21:02:27Z

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{{disambig3|Scourge}}
{{disambig2|Black Convoy from Car Robot franchise|Binaltech Black Convoy|Nemesis Prime (Alternators)}}
:''Scourge is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Black_Convoy.jpg|right|thumb|I see a [[Optimus Prime (RID)|red truck]] and I want to paint it black.]]

A [[protoform]] scanning mishap resulted in a [[Decepticon]] protoform attaining attributes of [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] yet retaining the Decepticon programming. This protoform became '''Scourge'''. Scourge is arguably [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]]'s second in command, leading the new Decepticon forces, a much more effective unit than [[Sky-Byte]]'s [[Predacon (RID)|Predacons]].

He is a ruthless and cunning warrior who contains all of Optimus Prime's strengths and skill, but none of his compassion and mercy. He's also a very ''ambitious'' warrior, with plans to dethrone Megatron!

Scourge's greatest strength is also his weakness--his temper. Fearless and furious, he charges into battle wildly hacking his broadsword as his trailer combat deck launches missile barrages overhead. Yet his rage also makes him impatient, petulant, and easily provoked; it also scares the heck out of his subordinates.

Naturally, [[Sky-Byte]] sees Scourge as a threat on just about every level. For once, he's right.

:''Japanese name:'' '''Black Convoy'''

==Fiction==
===Robots in Disguise cartoon===
[[Image:Rid8.jpg|right|thumb|Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem.Oh yeah!]]
:''Voice actor:'' [[Barry Stigler]] (English), [[Taitem Kusunoki]] (Japanese)

The robot who came to be named Scourge was originally one of a crew of six [[Autobot]]s sent to [[Earth]] to reactivate the legendary Autobot battle station, [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Fortress Maximus]]. As leader of the expedition, Scourge was equipped with the ability to detect the unique energy signatures of the [[O-Parts]], the [[Cybertron]]ian components that held the key to reawakening Maximus. However, Scourge never had the opportunity to use that ability in the service of the Autobots, when the team's craft malfunctioned and crashed on Earth in the mid-20th century. Having been in [[protoform]]-state with [[stasis pods]] for the duration of their voyage, the six Autobots were entombed in their crashed ship.

In the early days of the 21st century, archaeologist and energy expert [[Doctor Onishi]]'s work eventually led him to find the various links in the chain of Fortress Maximus - he located the fortress itself beneath [[Metro City]], mapped the location of the O-Parts, and discovered the location of the crashed Autobot spaceship. However, when the evil [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]] came to Earth with the intent of harnessing Maximus's power, he captured Onishi, and through mental scans, discerned the location of the Autobots' ship. Stealing the six protoforms, Megatron took them to a nearby military base to scan vehicle modes for them, infusing them with a part of his own spark energy to turn them to the side of evil. The first five became the [[Commando]]s, but when Megatron targeted a tanker truck to scan as the alternate mode of the final protoform, [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] leapt into action in order to save the truck's human driver (the eternally-luckless [[Kelly]]), and as a result, the tanker, Prime ''and'' the human were all scanned. With an infusion of Megatron's spark energy to complete the concoction, Scourge was born, emerging from his pod as a dark twin of Optimus Prime, who proved that Megatron's programming had over-ridden any Autobot goodness within him. Appointing himself leader of the new "[[Decepticons (RID)|Decepticons]]," he quickly established himself as a force to be reckoned with. {{storylink|The Decepticons}}

After leading a series of unsuccessful missions - with failure sometimes due to the interference of his [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] rival [[Sky-Byte]] - during which Optimus Prime constantly but vainly urged him to search for the true Autobot nature within himself, Scourge developed a fierce independent streak, steadily growing more and more revolted at being in the service of Megatron. Eventually, when Fortress Maximus was discovered buried beneath Metro City, exposure to the battle station's energies began to reawaken memories the original mission Scourge had been programmed with. As the race began to locate the O-Parts, Scourge rediscovered his ability to sense them. Holding one in his hand, his mission was now clear to Scourge - but unfortunately, Megatron's reprogramming added a distinctly [[Decepticon]] bent to it, as Scourge now sought to use the power of Fortress Maximus to conquer the galaxy for himself.

Successfully capturing [[Cerebros (RID)|Cerebros]], the power key to Fortress Maximus, Scourge used the part of his bio-signature that was Optimus Prime's to dupe the robot into activating Maximus, but the giant robot ran amok until the Autobots' human ally, [[Koji Onishi|Koji]] was able to stop it. Realizing that humans could control Maximus, Scourge then amplified the human part of his bio-signature and succeeded in taking control of the giant, until he was overridden by a large group of human children. Seeking to use Koji himself for the process, a case of mistaken identity resulted in the Decepticons capturing his best friend, [[Karl]], instead, but when Karl proved able to activate [[Fortress Maximus]], Scourge dropped his façade of loyalty and ordered Maximus to destroy Megatron (now Galvatron). The failure of this plan brought about a punishment most severe - Scourge and the Decepticons had their autonomy stripped by Galvatron, turned once again into loyal servants so dedicated to Galvatron that they continued to do his will even after he attempted to kill them with molten lava as a belated punishment. With Galvatron's ultimate defeat at the hands of [[Omega Prime]], Scourge was captured and taken back to Cybertron for imprisonment with the other villains.

===Dreamwave comics===

==Toys==
===Robots in Disguise===
*'''Black Convoy''' (Destronger, 2000)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-012'''

:A [[black repaint|black]] [[redeco]] of the Laser [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] mold, Black Convoy is a black Western Star 4964EX truck with teal paint apps, and darkish pink windows. His trailer is chrome, and he lacks all of Laser Prime's stickers. The toy lacks all of Laser Prime's electronics, to keep costs down. However, the arms still are restricted in motion, to prevent breaking the wires that no longer exist in the toy.

:Due to the molded G2 Autobot symbols on the discs Black Convoy's launcher has, [[Takara]] made Black Convoy's faction symbol the G2 Autobot one, but upside down.

*'''Scourge''' (Decepticon, 2002)

[[Image:RID_Scourge_toy.jpg|thumb|right|200px|This toy almost makes the black repaint craze worth it.]]

:The US release of Black Convoy, sold exclusively at Toys-R-Us. Specimens sold at retail were very similar to Black Convoy. Notable changes were that red translucent plastic replaces all the pink; the stickers are now a flat light gray with Decepticon logos instead of glossy silver with "negative-Autobot" logos; the sword was blunted; and the discs were remolded to make them blank, removing the faction symbol. The only change in paint is that Scourge has Decepticon sigils tampographed on his doors, while lacking Black Convoy's teal "stripe" along the cab's nose. The license plate sticker on the tanker now states "SCOURGE D-012".

:An early wave of Scourges sold on the Toys-R-Us website had the American-styled stickers but retained the Japanese cab paint applications and pink plastic.

:This version of the mold was later reused by [[Sonokong]] as ''Car Robots'' Black Convoy in the South Korean market, with Hasbro's paint decos and darker red plastic, but with Black Convoy's stickers.

*'''X-Brawn / Scourge''' (Basic, 2002)

: The only new tooling for this character, Spychanger Scourge was only available in a 2 pack with a Spychanger version of [[X-Brawn]]. Like most Spychangers, he features high speed axles and can roll very well across smooth surfaces, but lacks the weight to propel him quickly.

: As with most of the new ''Robots in Disguise'' releases, the X-Brawn / Scourge pack was available in Japan as a 'USA Edition' mass-released toy.

: Ironically, this mold was later redecoed '''both''' as ''Generation 1'' Spychanger [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] in the ''[[Universe]]'' toyline and as "Movie" [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] for a Japanese pack-in DVD exclusive.

*'''Destructicon Scourge''' (Deluxe, 2003)
[[Image:Scourgedestructicon.jpg|right|thumb|200px|It's me again!]]

:Released as a Kay-Bee Toys exclusive, Destructicon Scourge is a black redeco of [[Optimus Prime (G1) toys|Hero Optimus Prime]]. In either robot mode or tanker mode, he carries a missile launcher that fires when its air silo is squeezed. Scourge comes with two rubber-tipped missiles which can store on his back in robot mode.

:By the time this toy was released, its tooling had degraded somewhat since Hero Prime's original production run. As a result, neither robot nor vehicle mode held together very well on many specimens. Keeping his missiles stored was difficult, as they liked to pop out from their storage clips involuntarily. Additionally, initial shipments appear to have been missing a certain part that allowed the waist to ratchet, instead letting it spin freely.

{{-}}

==Trivia==
* Scourge's color scheme pretty much set the tone for the [[Nemesis Prime (Armada)|parade]] [[Grand Scourge|of]] [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|evil]] [[Nemesis Prime (Alternators)|clones]] that would follow for the next five years and up. Granted, it's a pretty color scheme, but it's been [[Nemesis Breaker|overused]] by now.
* Because his biosignature contains the DNA of a human female, some fans jokingly point out that this technically makes Scourge a [[Category:Gender-switch characters|transvestite]]. [[Airazor|Join]] [[Override (Cybertron)|the]] [[Sureshock (Armada)|club]].

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/2002/Decepticon/Scourge/scourge.htm Scourge at TFU.info]

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The Agenda (Part 2)

2008-04-08T19:53:43Z

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[[Image:Agenda2 title.jpg|thumb|350px|]]

'''Captured by Ravage, Megatron lets the former Decepticon warrior in on the secret of the Golden Disk and gets him to switch sides.'''

{{episodenav |BW |season=2 |12 |prev=The Agenda (Part 1) |next=The Agenda (Part III)}}

==Summary==
With Megatron a prisoner and the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]] scattered, the [[Maximal]]s prepare to wrap things up. [[Optimus Primal]] summons [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]] to his office and comes down on him about [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]. Silverbolt points out that she was originally a Maximal protoform and that he himself was a Predacon once, but Primal counters that Blackarachnia is evil to the core, whereas Silverbolt just didn't know any better. He confines Silverbolt to quarters and dispatches [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] to deal with Blackarchnia, despite Silverbolt's request to be sent, if only to protect Cheetor.

In his cell, Megatron berates Ravage for siding with the Maximals, to which Ravage responds that Megatron is an inferior leader when compared to his namesake. Megatron also points out that Ravage's [[Transwarp Cruiser|ship]] is depleted of [[energon]]. He offers a stash of [[energon cube|cube]]s for his freedom, but Ravage reveals he already knows the stash's location, as [[Tarantulas]] is a Lieutenant in the [[Predacon Secret Police]]. Cheetor prepares to go out for Blackarachnia, but first apologizes to Silverbolt, who also apologizes—for the punch he gives Cheetor right afterward. Escaping, Silverbolt locates Blackarachnia following [[Waspinator]] to [[Mount St. Hilary|a mountain]]. Silverbolt begs her to come in, but Blackarachnia claims to have no feelings for him at all. To prove her point, she shoots him. But as Silverbolt points out, it was non-fatal, saying she does care for him and won't simply kill him. While they are [[Kiss|distracted]], the hoverpod they're in rams into Waspinator, shattering both, but Silverbolt saves Blackarachnia. (Waspinator is out of luck, as usual.)

Heading for the energon cubes, Optimus and Cheetor discover that they are actually [[Energon crystal|unstable crystal]]s and part of a trap by Megatron. [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] attacks, but soon suffers from energon buildup. Inferno then ignites the crystals in an attempt to destroy them all. The chain reaction destroys the mountain and seemingly incinerates Inferno, but Optimus and Cheetor manage to escape. Once they're safe, Optimus informs Ravage of what happened.

At his ship, Ravage confronts Megatron over his treachery. Megatron points out that Ravage intends to kill them all, Maximal and Predacon. Ravage admits to this and arms the vessel's internal autoguns. Desperate, Megatron reveals he had ulterior motives for stealing the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]], something which could affect the [[Great War]]. Ravage doubts him, pointing out the Disk's destruction, but allows Megatron to convince him. Released from his [[power bond]]s, the Predacon commander reveals that he still has a fragment of the Disk, and it holds proof that Ravage will believe—a message from [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], the [[Decepticon leader|leader]] of the [[Decepticon]]s. Noting his potential defeat, Megatron left instructions for the descendants of the Decepticons to use [[transwarp]] technology to travel back in time to Ancient [[Earth]]. Although the message cuts out partway through, the Predacon's gambit succeeds: Ravage, moved by the sight of his former leader, releases Megatron.

At the mountain, Blackarachnia and Silverbolt discover that Megatron was already there, having dug a tunnel and then sealed it. Blackarachnia attempts to make Silverbolt leave, but finally accepts his help. As Optimus and Cheetor return to the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'', [[Rattrap]] radios Optimus, telling him they no longer need to depend on Ravage—he's switched sides! As Ravage [[transformation|transforms]] to interface with his ship, the Predacons launch an attack.

[[The Agenda (Part III)|To be continued...]]

==Quotes==
"Ahhh...I useta be young like that." 
"...What?!" 
"D'yah, I mean, we got trouble. Ohhhh, yeah."
:—'''Rattrap''' and '''Optimus Primal''' on Silverbolt's escape to find Blackarachnia

"I know how you're feeling. You don't know whether to kiss me or... kill me." 
"I'm a ''black widow spider'', you idiot! ...I can do both."
:—'''Silverbolt''' and '''Blackarachnia'''

"This is Megatron, leader of the Decepticons. And if you're hearing this, it means I've failed...''this'' time. 
:—'''Megatron''', causing the fandom to rejoice at his appearance, yet complain that Frank Welker didn't provide the voice

"Decepticons forever!"
:—'''Ravage''', before transforming with the traditional noise into a mini-cassette, causing the fandom to rejoice without any complaints

==Stats==
'''Writers:''' [[Bob Forward]] 
'''Original air date:''' March 12, 1998 (Cartoon Network Preview); May 16 (Regular Syndication)

'''Major characters (in order of appearance):''' Characters 
'''Minor characters (in order of appearance):''' Characters

==Notes==

===Technical/Animation Glitches===
*Glitch

===Continuity errors===
*Tarantulas heads the recovery mission for Megatron's energon stash, yet it's been established that his new base is loaded with stable energon. Why doesn't he and Ravage simply use ''that'' to repower the stealth cruiser?
* Along those same lines, it's odd how Ravage, one of G1 Megatron's closest confidants and most loyal allies, didn't know of the secret message his leader put on the Golden Disk. Clearly, Megatron doesn't have the same trust in his allies as they do in him.

===Transformers references===
*When Megatron shows the recording from the remains of the Golden Disk, the face and voice of the original Megatron are shown.
*When Ravage transforms, the sound effect is the one used by all Transformers in the [[Generation One|original series]].
*Originally, when Ravage transformed and inserted his cassette mode into the control console, the G1 cartoon theme song was going to play during his first cry of "Decepticons Forever!" and subsequent attack on the ''Axalon''. However, due to copyright constraints, this plan was dropped, and a more generic song was put in its place.

===Real-world references===
*Efforts were made to get [[Frank Welker]] to provide the voice for Megatron's message, but financial and scheduling conflicts precluded this from happening. [[Gary Chalk]] voiced him instead.
*When Waspinator is smashed to pieces by the stasis pod ship, a toilet is seen falling down among the wreckage.
*After the crash with Waspinator, when Blackarachnia is saved by Silverbolt, he breaks the fourth-wall when he tells her "...and, I'm a heroic character."

===Trivia===
*Primal has a tiny trophy of a gorilla on his desk.

==External links==
*[http://www.bwtf.com/bw/tvshow/episodes/seasontwo/agenda2/ Synopsis of the Agenda (Part 2) at Ben Yee's website]
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Scourge (RID)

2008-04-07T06:07:19Z

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{{disambig3|Scourge}}
{{disambig2|Black Convoy from Car Robot franchise|Binaltech Black Convoy|Nemesis Prime (Alternators)}}
:''Scourge is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Black_Convoy.jpg|right|thumb|I see a [[Optimus Prime (RID)|red truck]] and I want to paint it black.]]

A [[protoform]] scanning mishap resulted in a [[Decepticon]] protoform attaining attributes of [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] yet retaining the Decepticon programming. This protoform became '''Scourge'''. Scourge is arguably [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]]'s second in command, leading the new Decepticon forces, a much more effective unit than [[Sky-Byte]]'s [[Predacon (RID)|Predacons]].

He is a ruthless and cunning warrior who contains all of Optimus Prime's strengths and skill, but none of his compassion and mercy. He's also a very ''ambitious'' warrior, with plans to dethrone Megatron!

Scourge's greatest strength is also his weakness--his temper. Fearless and furious, he charges into battle wildly hacking his broadsword as his trailer combat deck launches missile barrages overhead. Yet his rage also makes him impatient, petulant, and easily provoked; it also scares the heck out of his subordinates.

Naturally, [[Sky-Byte]] sees Scourge as a threat on just about every level. For once, he's right.

:''Japanese name:'' '''Black Convoy'''

==Fiction==
===Robots in Disguise cartoon===
[[Image:Rid8.jpg|right|thumb|Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem.Oh yeah!]]
:''Voice actor:'' [[Barry Stigler]] (English), [[Taitem Kusunoki]] (Japanese)

The robot who came to be named Scourge was originally one of a crew of six [[Autobot]]s sent to [[Earth]] to reactivate the legendary Autobot battle station, [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Fortress Maximus]]. As leader of the expedition, Scourge was equipped with the ability to detect the unique energy signatures of the [[O-Parts]], the [[Cybertron]]ian components that held the key to reawakening Maximus. However, Scourge never had the opportunity to use that ability in the service of the Autobots, when the team's craft malfunctioned and crashed on Earth in the mid-20th century. Having been in [[protoform]]-state with [[stasis pods]] for the duration of their voyage, the six Autobots were entombed in their crashed ship.

In the early days of the 21st century, archaeologist and energy expert [[Doctor Onishi]]'s work eventually led him to find the various links in the chain of Fortress Maximus - he located the fortress itself beneath [[Metro City]], mapped the location of the O-Parts, and discovered the location of the crashed Autobot spaceship. However, when the evil [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]] came to Earth with the intent of harnessing Maximus's power, he captured Onishi, and through mental scans, discerned the location of the Autobots' ship. Stealing the six protoforms, Megatron took them to a nearby military base to scan vehicle modes for them, infusing them with a part of his own spark energy to turn them to the side of evil. The first five became the [[Commando]]s, but when Megatron targeted a tanker truck to scan as the alternate mode of the final protoform, [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] leapt into action in order to save the truck's human driver (the eternally-luckless [[Kelly]]), and as a result, the tanker, Prime ''and'' the human were all scanned. With an infusion of Megatron's spark energy to complete the concoction, Scourge was born, emerging from his pod as a dark twin of Optimus Prime, who proved that Megatron's programming had over-ridden any Autobot goodness within him. Appointing himself leader of the new "[[Decepticons (RID)|Decepticons]]," he quickly established himself as a force to be reckoned with. {{storylink|The Decepticons}}

After leading a series of unsuccessful missions - with failure sometimes due to the interference of his [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] rival [[Sky-Byte]] - during which Optimus Prime constantly but vainly urged him to search for the true Autobot nature within himself, Scourge developed a fierce independent streak, steadily growing more and more revolted at being in the service of Megatron. Eventually, when Fortress Maximus was discovered buried beneath Metro City, exposure to the battle station's energies began to reawaken memories the original mission Scourge had been programmed with. As the race began to locate the O-Parts, Scourge rediscovered his ability to sense them. Holding one in his hand, his mission was now clear to Scourge - but unfortunately, Megatron's reprogramming added a distinctly [[Decepticon]] bent to it, as Scourge now sought to use the power of Fortress Maximus to conquer the galaxy for himself.

Successfully capturing [[Cerebros (RID)|Cerebros]], the power key to Fortress Maximus, Scourge used the part of his bio-signature that was Optimus Prime's to dupe the robot into activating Maximus, but the giant robot ran amok until the Autobots' human ally, [[Koji Onishi|Koji]] was able to stop it. Realizing that humans could control Maximus, Scourge then amplified the human part of his bio-signature and succeeded in taking control of the giant, until he was overridden by a large group of human children. Seeking to use Koji himself for the process, a case of mistaken identity resulted in the Decepticons capturing his best friend, [[Karl]], instead, but when Karl proved able to activate [[Fortress Maximus]], Scourge dropped his façade of loyalty and ordered Maximus to destroy Megatron (now Galvatron). The failure of this plan brought about a punishment most severe - Scourge and the Decepticons had their autonomy stripped by Galvatron, turned once again into loyal servants so dedicated to Galvatron that they continued to do his will even after he attempted to kill them with molten lava as a belated punishment. With Galvatron's ultimate defeat at the hands of [[Omega Prime]], Scourge was captured and taken back to Cybertron for imprisonment with the other villains.

===Dreamwave comics===

==Toys==
===Robots in Disguise===
*'''Black Convoy''' (Destronger, 2000)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-012'''

:A [[black repaint|black]] [[redeco]] of the Laser [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] mold, Black Convoy is a black Western Star 4964EX truck with teal paint apps, and darkish pink windows. His trailer is chrome, and he lacks all of Laser Prime's stickers. The toy lacks all of Laser Prime's electronics, to keep costs down. However, the arms still are restricted in motion, to prevent breaking the wires that no longer exist in the toy.

:Due to the molded G2 Autobot symbols on the discs Black Convoy's launcher has, [[Takara]] made Black Convoy's faction symbol the G2 Autobot one, but upside down.

*'''Scourge''' (Decepticon, 2002)

[[Image:RID_Scourge_toy.jpg|thumb|right|200px|This toy almost makes the black repaint craze worth it.]]

:The US release of Black Convoy, sold exclusively at Toys-R-Us. Specimens sold at retail were very similar to Black Convoy. Notable changes were that red translucent plastic replaces all the pink; the stickers are now a flat light gray with Decepticon logos instead of glossy silver with "negative-Autobot" logos; the sword was blunted; and the discs were remolded to make them blank, removing the faction symbol. The only change in paint is that Scourge has Decepticon sigils tampographed on his doors, while lacking Black Convoy's teal "stripe" along the cab's nose. The license plate sticker on the tanker now states "SCOURGE D-012".

:An early wave of Scourges sold on the Toys-R-Us website had the American-styled stickers but retained the Japanese cab paint applications and pink plastic.

:This version of the mold was later reused by [[Sonokong]] as ''Car Robots'' Black Convoy in the South Korean market, with Hasbro's paint decos and darker red plastic, but with Black Convoy's stickers.

*'''X-Brawn / Scourge''' (Basic, 2002)

: The only new tooling for this character, Spychanger Scourge was only available in a 2 pack with a Spychanger version of [[X-Brawn]]. Like most Spychangers, he features high speed axles and can roll very well across smooth surfaces, but lacks the weight to propel him quickly.

: As with most of the new ''Robots in Disguise'' releases, the X-Brawn / Scourge pack was available in Japan as a 'USA Edition' mass-released toy.

: Ironically, this mold was later redecoed '''both''' as ''Generation 1'' Spychanger [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] in the ''[[Universe]]'' toyline and as "Movie" [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] for a Japanese pack-in DVD exclusive.

*'''Destructicon Scourge''' (Deluxe, 2003)
[[Image:Scourgedestructicon.jpg|right|thumb|200px|It's me again!]]

:Released as a Kay-Bee Toys exclusive, Destructicon Scourge is a black redeco of [[Optimus Prime (G1) toys|Hero Optimus Prime]]. In either robot mode or tanker mode, he carries a missile launcher that fires when its air silo is squeezed. Scourge comes with two rubber-tipped missiles which can store on his back in robot mode.

:By the time this toy was released, its tooling had degraded somewhat since Hero Prime's original production run. As a result, neither robot nor vehicle mode held together very well on many specimens. Keeping his missiles stored was difficult, as they liked to pop out from their storage clips involuntarily. Additionally, initial shipments appear to have been missing a certain part that allowed the waist to ratchet, instead letting it spin freely.

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==Trivia==
* Scourge's color scheme pretty much set the tone for the [[Nemesis Prime (Armada)|parade]] [[Grand Scourge|of]] [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|evil]] [[Nemesis Prime (Alternators)|clones]] that would follow for the next five years and up. Granted, it's a pretty color scheme, but it's been [[Nemesis Breaker|overused]] by now.

* Because he has the DNA of a human female in his "biosignature", some fans have (creepily) suggested that this makes Scourge a transvestite. [[Airazor|Join]] [[Tigatron|the]] [[Override (Cybertron)|club]].

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/2002/Decepticon/Scourge/scourge.htm Scourge at TFU.info]

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Noble (BM)

2008-04-07T01:19:13Z

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{{picsneeded|Savage, toy}}
{{disambig2|Savage/Noble as he existed after Megatron's spark was removed (primarily)|the character as he was before then|Megatron (BW)}}

:''Savage/Noble is a [[Maximal]]/[[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon]] from the [[Beast Machines]] portion of the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]]. He is also known as '''Beast Changer.'''''

[[Image:Noble.jpg|right|thumb|250px|A Predacon Werewolf in [[Iacon]].]]

The strange organic monstrosity known as '''Savage/Noble''' is the only known purely-organic Transformer. He was created as an unintended, unforseen side effect of [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] seeking to rid himself of the organic portions of his beast form. Once Megatron's animating spark left the beast it retained life and became a distinct living creature in its own right. Stripped of Megatron's mind however the thing that remained was basically all animal and acted as such. His humanoid form resembles a werewolf (referred to as '''Noble'''), and his alt-mode is a dragon-creature (known as '''Savage'''). The animalistic Savage/Noble formed a close bond with [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]] akin to that between a boy and his dog.

==Fiction==
===Animated continuity===
====''Beast Machines''====
:''Voice actor:'' [[David Kaye]] (US), [[Yūichi Nagashima]] (Japan)

When Savage/Noble first appeared, the creature was basically Megatron in disguise, his spark having been unexpectedly trapped in the organics he had sought to purge. It is unclear whether his seemingly random violent rages were genuine or if they were a deliberate ruse. Once he seemed to gain more self-control and began speaking, Noble claimed to be a survivor of the transformation lock virus in need of help, and so he was quickly accepted into the [[Maximal]] fold and befriended by [[Nightscream]]. After the Maximals led him to Megatron's Citadel, Megs made his move, and downloaded his [[spark]] into a [[Grand Mal|Giant Warship]]. The discarded Savage/Noble entity was left a pure beast with an instinctual mind and no spark. Noble continued to follow Nightscream, helping where he could but also at times jeopardizing the team. The first time Megatron consumed all the sparks on Cybertron, the creature attacked him and he killed Noble. This sacrifice led to the enraged Nightscream stopping Megatron. The ill-fated creature was later mourned by the Maximals and praised for his sacrifice.

==Toys==
===Beast Machines===
*'''Beast Changer''' (2001)
The Beast Changer toy was originally released in the West in 2001 as part of the Beast Machines toyline. Hasbro was unable to attain the rights to the name "Savage/Noble," and so it was given the generic Beast Changer label. In 2005, the mold was later recolored to appear somewhat more show-accurate and released in Japan under the name "Noble Savage" as part of the ''Beast Wars Returns'' toyline, [[exclusive]] to Toys R' Us.

==Trivia==

*While "Savage" is clearly Megatron's Dragon half, it is unclear where the DNA for the wolf form "Noble" originated. Some fans have speculated a connection to [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]]'s wolf fuzor form (specifically, the rumor that Silverbolt was planned to be the one to sacrifice himself to stop Megatron during [[End of the Line]] instead of Optimus, a rumor that also explains away why Silverbolt's technorganic alt mode is purely avian) but nothing in the show particularly supports this.

*Given the Beast era's focus on a Transformer's life force and personality being bound up in its spark, it is questionable whether Savage/Noble, after losing its spark, was technically still a Transformer.

*Perhaps due to a lack of communication, the "Beast Changer" toy's on-package [[bio]] posits a [[micro-continuity]] where post-Megatron Savage/Noble is a sentient being with an intelligence [[Tech Spec]] of 8.7. He hates Megatron, is quoted as saying: "Science has yet to match the force of Nature - allow me to demonstrate!" and considers himself a "self-proclaimed" outcast.

*Although Savage/Noble's "Beast Changer" toy was not a part of it, a sub-line of other beast-to-beast Transformers was later released with the title [[Mutant (BW)|''Beast Wars Mutants'']].

*[[Mainframe Entertainment|Mainframe]] would later borrow the "Noble" character model as a werewolf for the beginning of "Casper's Haunted Christmas."

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Maximal/BeastChanger/beastchanger.htm TFU.info's entry on Beast Changer]

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Silverbolt (Fuzor)

2008-04-07T00:57:53Z

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{{disambig3|Silverbolt}}{{picsneeded|Toys}}
:''Silverbolt is a [[Maximal]] from the [[Beast Era]] portion of the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Silverboltfuzor.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Strong, sleek, swift and stupid.]]

"Pure, strong, and fast," '''Silverbolt'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s sense of right and wrong is so overdeveloped his fellow Maximals wonder if his programming has a glitch. He speaks in platitudes that speak to chivalry, justice, and cheesy heroic ideals, and he has been known to give speeches that make even [[Optimus Primal]] roll his optics. His conviction is both his strength and his weakness. He sees the world in black and white (and no, that's not just because his beast mode is partly canine).

The only gray area for Silverbolt is [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]. His fierce love for the "evil" [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] causes him to question his preconceived notions of right and wrong. He was very proud of his ability to convert Blackarachnia to the Maximals, and, though most of the Maximals are skeptical of her loyalty to the cause and to him, he has nothing but faith in her.

{{quote|Though threatening your own comrade is no doubt business as usual in the Predacon guide to villainy... it is simply unacceptable behavior in ''my'' book! |Silverbolt|"[[Bad Spark]]"}}

:''Italian name'': '''Grifo''' 
:''Chinese name (Beast Wars)'': '''Yin Lang''' (Silver Wolf) 
:''Chinese name (Beast Machines)'': '''Yin Shandian''' (Silver Bolt or Silver Lightning) 
:''Spanish-Mexican name'': '''Lobo Plateado''' 
:''French-Canadian name'': '''Vif-Argent''' 
:''Polish name'': '''Srebrny Grom'''

==Fiction==
===Beast Wars===
:''Voice Actor:'' [[Scott McNeil]] (English), [[Mitsuo Iwata]] (Japanese), [[Bruno Rocha]] (Portuguese)

[[Image:BWSilverbolt_Blackarachnia_OptimalSituation.jpg|thumb|left|200px|MENNNNDOOOOOZAAA!!!]]

The explosion caused by the destruction of the [[Vok]] [[Planet Buster]] sent all stasis pods crashing to Earth. Some pods' scanners were damaged in the shockwave and eventual crash landing, and the resulting in the Fuzors, a blend of two beast forms and the advanced Transmetal technology. {{Storylink|Aftermath}}

One of these Fuzors was the winged-wolf Silverbolt, whose neighbor was the violent, psychotic cobra-scorpion [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]], the latter immediately picking a fight with the peaceful Silverbolt. The fight was interrupted by [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] who tricked both Fuzors and recruited them into the Predacons. Silverbolt felt the faction's activation code and Megatron's orders to attack the passing [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] to be distasteful, to the furious punishment of the Predacon leader. Soon, he and the other Predacons faced the remaining Maximals in battle. {{Storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 1)}}

However, Silverbolt felt out of place with so treacherous and cruel a group. After witnessing Maximal compassion and [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]]'s own admission of defection, he made an important decision and joined the Maximals, saving the newly reborn [[Optimus Primal]] from Megatron. {{Storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)}}

Soon afterwards, while on patrol with the much more laid-back [[Rattrap]] (who spent alot of the time pointedly ignoring Silverbolt's lines of honor and virtue) , Silverbolt encountered the alluring Blackarachnia when [[Tarantulas]] and Quickstrike were attempting to set up a forward base. She was somewhat surprised by his complete refusal to strike her simply because she was a female, using it to her advantage to attack him. However, the Maximal had no such compunction against fighting the coarse Quickstrike. {{Storylink|Tangled Web}}

Soon, Silverbolt found himself reluctantly sneaking off to aide Blackarachnia in constructing a small airship out of the fallen Stasis Pod. When it was complete, she ran off at first word of the ''[[Ark]]'' being discovered, Silverbolt in tow. He pleaded with her to join the Maximals, and - even after shooting him in the thigh - refused to leave until she did.

When Megatron arrived, Silverbolt was the playing card to convince Blackarachnia to open the doors to the Ark and allow him inside. Soon after, When [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] was injured enough to cause the time storm, Blackarachnia used Silverbolt to put everything right, and defected to the Maximals soon after.

Most of the time thereafter, Silverbolt stayed by Blackarachnia's side, more than happy that the subterfuge was over. He was extremely pleased when Blackarachnia was converted fully into a Maximal (and a Transmetal 2, as well).

===Beast Machines===
:'''Voice Actor:''' [[Scott McNeil]] (US), [[Mitsuo Iwata]] (Japan), [[Marcus Jardym]] (Brazil)

When the Maximals found themselves back on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] running for their lives from armies of [[Vehicon]] drones, their memories of their past had been tampered with. Even [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] could not remember Silverbolt fully until she hacked into the memory backup on their ship.

[[Image:Silverboltjetstorm.jpg|right|thumb|Sadly, this was the coolest Silverbolt would get in Beast Machines...]]

Blackarachnia began to suspect that Silverbolt's [[spark]] may be inside one of the Vehicon Generals. At first, she erroneously thought it was inside [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]], but after a mishap with some technorganic goop, Silverbolt's spark was proven to be inside [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] (and Thrust turned out to be [[Waspinator]], whose amorous advances were tragically spurned by the arachnid chick). For a precious few moments, Silverbolt's consciousness was completely awoken within Jetstorm's body, reverting to his old personality, until the goop was absorbed completely and Jetstorm's [[shell program]] reasserted itself.

Obsessed with bringing Silverbolt back, she hounded Jetstorm, demanding he remember their shared love and return to the Maximals. Needless to say, Jetstorm was vexed by this. But when [[Rattrap]] created a gizmo that would help them transfer the stolen Transformer sparks into new bodies, Blackarachnia stole it. Leading Jetstorm into the planet's organic core, she attached the gizmo to his back and trapped the Vehicon in a pool of the technorganic goop with her webs. After much screaming, reformatting, and brilliant light, Silverbolt was reborn as a condor, having scanned skeletal remains inside the cavern in the process.

[[Image:Silverboltbm.jpg|left|thumb|...for he later became the World's Deadliest Peacock!]]

Counter to Blackarachnia's expectations, Silverbolt was not pleased. Gone was the Maximal who exemplified honor and chivalry, replaced with only a desire for retribution and vengeance. "I was a fool back then," he frowns, "I ''believed'' in things." Distraught, Blackarachnia managed to convince him to come along with her to help rescue [[Optimus Primal]] and [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] from inside [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s [[Grand Mal|Big Floating Head]], but Silverbolt did not accompany her for their friends -- he was not interested in them. He went to confront Megatron.

Megatron, seeing that his General had been reformatted into a Maximal, tried to seduce Silverbolt back to his side. Silverbolt was told he was a creature of honor who fought for just causes, and that Megatron gave Silverbolt not only a just cause (the technological purity of Cybertron), but also the power and strength to fight for that cause. Blackarachnia countered at every point, pleading with Silverbolt to remember their love and friendship. Silverbolt was not even paying attention to her, and finally answers Megatron bitterly: "You gave me ''nothing''." Silverbolt, with nearly insane fury, let loose a volley of feather bombs, disrupting Megatron from within. Cheetor and Primal were rescued, and Silverbolt was dragged away from the battle.

Slightly calmed, Silverbolt was later approached by Blackarachnia. He confided in her the real reason for his anger. It was not what Megatron had done to him, but that he was freed from his code of honor and he ''enjoyed'' the experience. He did not trust himself any longer. This did not deter Blackarachnia. She believed, no matter what, that Silverbolt had goodness in his heart.

As time went on, Silverbolt began to become more comfortable with his past. With the final defeat of Megatron and the reformatting of Cybertron, his old personality reemerged—only to ruin it by saying the corniest line he could think of. And more power to him.

===Universe===
====Pack-in/CD-ROM comic====
Silverbolt followed Optimus Primal in fighting against [[Reptilion]] and his Decepticon forces. He engaged [[Razorclaw (Universe)|Razorclaw]] in combat, but was probably defeated by him as the latter moved on to fight [[Striker]]. After the Decepticons were abducted by Unicron's ship, Silverbolt asked his leader just what that thing was. {{storylink|Universe CD-ROM}}

====3H Universe comics====
[[Image:Silverbolt_tfu.jpg|thumb|right|Angsty Redux]]

One year after [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s Great Reformatting, five great Autobot heroes ([[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], [[Sunstreaker]], [[Trailbreaker]], [[Shadow Striker]], and [[Roulette]]) returned home to a peaceful planet. Amidst a media blitz and celebration, Silverbolt, [[Blackarachnia]], [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]], and [[Rattrap]] were among the Maximals to greet them.

However, what appeared to be celebratory fireworks struck Silverbolt and Blackarachnia and also the five Autobots. They were transported to the firey [[Pit]] deep within [[Unicron]], where all but Trailbreaker were rebuilt painfully into new bodies. Silverbolt was piece-by-piece reassembled into a version of his original [[Fuzor]] form.

Seeing an arena up ahead, the seven moved towards it, only to be attacked by a swarm of shape-shifting lava-like creatures. Silverbolt and the others were overwhelmed and taken into the arena (or, the [[Cauldron]]), where they were caged along with a multitude of Transformers kidnapped from across the multiverse.

During this time Blackarachnia was corrupted by Unicron to become one of his warriors. Silverbolt vowed to bring her back to the light again as she has done for him.

When the whole place went to pot after the formation of the [[Unicron Singularity]], Silverbolt escaped with the rest of the prisoners, taking Blackarachnia with him. Presumably they returned to their own time and universe.

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==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
*'''Silverbolt''' (Deluxe Fuzor, 1998)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-41'''

: Part of the first wave of [[Fuzor]]s, Silverbolt transforms into a wolf with the wings, fore-legs and tail of an eagle. In either mode, pulling his tail activates a spring-loaded "wing flap" gimmick. Moving the wings far enough forward triggers their built-in spring-loaded missile launchers. Silverbolt's missiles are also designed to be held in his hands like clubs.

: For his Japanese release as part of ''Beast Wars Metals'', Silverbolt's silver was made much much brighter.

: This mold was used to make [[BotCon 1999]]'s [[Windrazor (BW)|Windrazor]].

===Beast Machines===
*'''Silverbolt''' (Basic, 2000)

: ''Beast Machines'' Silverbolt now transforms into kind of a condor, dropping his wolf-bits. His wings have a snap-together feature, and the entire wing assembly detaches to form a hand-held shield-blade for robot mode. It is [[Scale|woefully out of scale]] with the other Maximals, making [[Blackarachnia]] look like she has a midget fetish...

*'''Silverbolt''' (Basic, 2005)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''BR-10'''

: In 2005, the ''Beast Machines'' toy was [[redeco]]ed for the [[Takara]] ''[[Beast Wars Returns]]'' series in a much more show-like purple color scheme. He was only available at Toys "R" Us stores.

===Universe===
*'''Silverbolt''' (Deluxe, 2003)

: A purple redeco of the original Fuzor toy and part of the very first assortment of ''[[Universe]]'' product, Silverbolt once again transforms into a wolf/eagle fusion. He retains all of his previous gimmicks. This version also adds an Autobot sigil to his tummy-gem.

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==Trivia==
* In the Japanese dub of Beast Wars, Silverbolt was not portrayed as a stereotypical "Knight in shining armor" as he was in the West. Instead, his unique character quirk was that he was ''psychotically polite'' and always happy no matter what. Even in that one scene in [[Optimal Situation]] where he thought Blackarachnia was dead. [[Frag|F**k]]ers. He ended nearly every sentence in a loud, stressed '''"desu!"''' which made every sentence of his needlessly over-polite. Suiseiseki would be proud.

* Silverbolt's line in Beast Wars ("I think my name is... Silverbolt") mimics the original [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]'s first line.

* Many fans have taken to giving the ''Beast Machines'' Silverbolt toy a four-legged "griffon" alt-mode rather than the official "condor" mode.

* According to various [[Hasbro]] representatives, ''Universe'' Silverbolt's colors (and those of pretty much the entire first wave of ''Universe'' product) were done by Hasbro employees from outside the ''Transformers'' team.

* Silverbolt's robot mode in Beast Machines was heavily designed after a traditional Japanese samurai.

* Silverbolt was the only Beast Wars character besides Megatron to completely change his animal form, first being a wolf/eagle hybrid, later becoming a condor.

* According to one of the [[Steven Melching|writers]] commentaries on one his [[Endgame Pt. II: When Legends Fall|episodes]] that he made the changed to Silverbolt based on the evolution of the Adam West Batman into the Dark Knight.

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==External Links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Maximal/Silverbolt/silverbolt.htm Silverbolt at TFU.info]

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Rampage (BW)

2008-04-06T22:45:54Z

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{{disambig2|the Beast Wars Predacon|the Generation 1 Predacon|Rampage (G1)}}

:''Rampage is a [[Transmetal]] [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] from the [[Beast Wars]] portion of the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:BWRampage_Badspark.jpg|right|thumbnail|300px|I ate his spark with a side of fava beans and a nice Chianti.]]

'''Rampage''' (also known as '''Protoform X''') is the awful result of scientific experimentation gone awry. He is a serial killer and cannibal, with an immortal [[spark]] that ensures his twisted brand of horror and misery will live on as long as he does (forever, presumably). Rampage detects and draws strength from the emotions of others, literally feeding on the pain and suffering he causes. As an unwilling conscript of the [[Predacons]], he is contemptuous (at best) of the rest of his team, typically bored and uncooperative on missions, and he frequently sneaks off for his own purposes to try to relieve his boredom in the most cruel and horrible ways possible.

{{quote|Is that fear you are feeling, Maximal? Yes...my spark feeds on terror. Let it grow! Let it consume your circuitry! Feel it, yes, feel it! Feel the fear!|Rampage|"[[Bad Spark]]"}}

''Spanish name:'' '''Rampante''' 
''European-market name:'' '''Granchior''' 
''French name:'' '''Furibo''' 
''Polish name'': '''Pieniacz'''

==Fiction==
===''Timelines: Dawn of Future's Past''===
[[Image:Protoformxcargo.jpg|left|thumb|200px|The Maximals should consider making their scandalous super-secret projects a little smaller.]]
While preparing for a deep-space exploration mission, the Maximal crew of the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'' stopped for a few weeks at a space station. Here, [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] helped acquire a mysterious complement to their cargo, a very large [[protoform]] branded with an X. The ''Axalon'' was ordered to dispose of "Protoform X" on a barren moon somewhere in the [[Alpha Quadrant]]. However, before its captain, [[Optimus Primal]], was able to explain the circumstances fully to his crew, they were suddenly under even newer orders to pursue a stolen [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] ship, the ''[[Darksyde]]''. Subsequently, the ''Axalon'' followed the ''Darksyde'' through a [[transwarp]] portal and crash-landed on a mysterious planet. {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}

===''Beast Wars''===
:''Voice Actor: [[Campbell Lane]] (English); [[Nobuyuki Hiyama]] (Japanese)''

[[Image:BWRampage_Badspark_thepast.jpg|thumb|right|200px|This is a great way to work out.]]

Protoform X was a [[Maximal]] experiment to recreate [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream's]] mutant, immortal [[Spark]]. Though arguably successful in this regard, the creation was unstable. In point of fact, he was criminally insane. He destroyed [[Colony Omicron]], killing all of its inhabitants save a lone security officer, [[Depth Charge]], who eventually tracked him down and captured him. The [[Maximal Elder|Maximal Elders]] had Protoform X placed into a [[stasis pod]] aboard an exploration vessel, the ''Axalon''. They instructed its commander, Optimus Primal, to dump him on some barren world in deep space.

Protoform X was among the stasis pods jettisoned by Optimus when the ''Axalon'' was damaged by [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron's]] Predacons, and only fell out of orbit far into the Beast Wars. Battle near his stasis pod shocked him into activation, and he promptly set out to terrorize all nearby Transformers, rending Tarantulas limb from limb and stalking Blackarachnia and Silverbolt. (All right, whose bright idea was it to allow the homicidal maniac to keep his weapons!?) X seemed unstoppable at first, but when one of Silverbolt's missiles jammed his tank treads as he climbed up a mountainside, he lost his grip and tumbled down the rock face in pieces.

As Protoform X lay immobilized, Megatron arrived and, using a blade of pure [[energon]], removed a portion of his indestructible spark. Megatron then had him brought back to the Predacon base and repaired. When X attempted to turn his weapons on his "savior", Megatron revealed that he held half of X's spark in a special cage lined with energon crystals, allowing him to torture the beast at will. Megatron thus welcomed him into the Predacon fold, dubbing him "Rampage". {{Storylink|Bad Spark}}

Rampage made no secret of his hatred for his new "master". Megatron kept the spark cage with him at all times, fending off at least one attempt by Rampage to take it back. Megatron eventually used the spark fragment to form the core of [[Dinobot 2]], who likewise retained the ability torture Rampage into continued loyalty with it. {{Storylink|Feral Scream Part 1}}

[[Image:Rampage-sillyhead.jpg|left|thumb|250px|I am horror and fear given form! BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA!]]
Though a violent sociopath, Rampage was not without compassion. He found a kindred spirit in the badly damaged [[Transmutate]] and sought to protect it from the other Predacons. When Transmutate was killed, Rampage bellowed in grief. {{storylink|Transmutate (Beast Wars episode)|Transmutate}}

Later, Depth Charge arrived on prehistoric Earth with the single-minded goal of destroying Rampage. Rampage was beside himself with joy, eager for revenge on his old "playmate". Depth Charge's loss at Colony Omicron had embittered him, and Rampage used this emotional wound to torment the Maximal. They met in battle numerous times, fairly evenly matched. {{Storylink|Deep Metal}}

While Megatron was retrieving the submerged [[Decepticon]] craft ''[[Nemesis]]'', Depth Charge met Rampage in battle one last time. At the battle's climax, Rampage allowed Depth Charge to kill him with a shard of raw Energon, resulting in a fantastic explosion which destroyed both. Rampage won even in death, laughing maniacally in triumph as Depth Charge made the final, stabbing blow. {{Storylink|Nemesis Part 1}}

Except that Depth Charge [[Homecoming (Universe comic)|came back to life]].

===''Beast Wars Metals'' manga===
He's a Frankenstein's monster-like thing.
He ate Primal's head. It's okay, Primal had a spare.

===''Beast Wars Transmetals'' Playstation game===

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
*'''Rampage''' (Ultra Transmetal, 1998)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-41'''
**''Accessories:'' Spring-loaded triple barrel missile launcher, 3 missiles and 1 rifle

[[Image:BW_Rampage_toy.jpg|thumb|right|200px|A [[Seafood Louis]] eater's worst nightmare.]]

:Rampage transforms into a Transmetal king crab with a tank mode that includes rubber treads. In beast mode, he features fully articulated crab legs and pincers that can open, close and be posed in a variety of angles through the use of ratcheting joints. His triple-barreled Gatling missile launcher is stored on the underside of the beast mode, with its barrels flipping to the front during vehicle mode. In this tank mode, the crab legs fit together to form a road wheel network for Rampage's rubber treads to fit over so he can roll upon them. Rolling the tank activates the wheel in the missile launcher, firing any or all of the three missiles that can store in it.

:In robot mode, Rampage is an imposingly large figure with a decent level of articulation due to his ball joints, but because he wears most of his beast mode as a sort of backpack, he is quite back-heavy. His (very) small laser rifle and his triple-barreled launcher can be held in both of his hands. It should be noted that there were two releases of the toy, one with face colors accurate with the show and another with an orange colored face (seen to the right).

:The location of four of the crab legs in the show is not accurate to the toy; the show has the legs on the shoulder pads, whereas the toy situates the legs on Rampage's arms (which mean they are rather cumbersome).

: This toy was later [[redeco]]ed into the [[BotCon 2000]]-[[exclusive]] [[Shokaract]].

{{-}}

==Trivia==
* According to the series background materials published in the ''[[Beast Wars Universe]]'' guidebook, Rampage's body was supposed to have been constructed out of leftover G1-era [[Reproduction|technology]] seen in the [[Great War]] due to the lack of know-how for protoform technology.
* Strangely, his energon-boost that revived him, seen in "Bad Spark", took place in the dense jungle, despite his awakening in a King Crab Beast Mode. No explanation has been given. Maybe there was a crab skittering around Starbase Rugby.
* Some fans are split on how to interpret Rampage's death; he is clearly shown to let go of the energon shard that killed him prior to being stabbed with it, to which Depth Charge reacted in surprise. Because of this, some fans feel this means Rampage, knowing he couldn't win the struggle, allowed himself to be impaled in order to end his torturous existence (and laughing in the giddy euphoria of oblivion), while others believe he deliberately let go to test whether or not Depth Charge would go through with his threat of ending his life, his laughter instead being taken as solace in the knowledge that Depth Charge's obsession with him had successfully corrupted him into the same kind of monster he wanted to kill. Or, Rampage could just be batshit insane.

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Predacon/Rampage/rampage.htm Rampage at TFU.info]

==References==
<references/>

{{charstub}}

[[Category: Maximals]]
[[Category: Predacons]]
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Rampage (BW)

2008-04-06T22:44:00Z

64.13.101.210: /* Trivia */

{{disambig2|the Beast Wars Predacon|the Generation 1 Predacon|Rampage (G1)}}

:''Rampage is a [[Transmetal]] [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] from the [[Beast Wars]] portion of the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:BWRampage_Badspark.jpg|right|thumbnail|300px|I ate his spark with a side of fava beans and a nice Chianti.]]

'''Rampage''' (also known as '''Protoform X''') is the awful result of scientific experimentation gone awry. He is a serial killer and cannibal, with an immortal [[spark]] that ensures his twisted brand of horror and misery will live on as long as he does (forever, presumably). Rampage detects and draws strength from the emotions of others, literally feeding on the pain and suffering he causes. As an unwilling conscript of the [[Predacons]], he is contemptuous (at best) of the rest of his team, typically bored and uncooperative on missions, and he frequently sneaks off for his own purposes to try to relieve his boredom in the most cruel and horrible ways possible.

{{quote|Is that fear you are feeling, Maximal? Yes...my spark feeds on terror. Let it grow! Let it consume your circuitry! Feel it, yes, feel it! Feel the fear!|Rampage|"[[Bad Spark]]"}}

''Spanish name:'' '''Rampante''' 
''European-market name:'' '''Granchior''' 
''French name:'' '''Furibo''' 
''Polish name'': '''Pieniacz'''

==Fiction==
===''Timelines: Dawn of Future's Past''===
[[Image:Protoformxcargo.jpg|left|thumb|200px|The Maximals should consider making their scandalous super-secret projects a little smaller.]]
While preparing for a deep-space exploration mission, the Maximal crew of the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'' stopped for a few weeks at a space station. Here, [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] helped acquire a mysterious complement to their cargo, a very large [[protoform]] branded with an X. The ''Axalon'' was ordered to dispose of "Protoform X" on a barren moon somewhere in the [[Alpha Quadrant]]. However, before its captain, [[Optimus Primal]], was able to explain the circumstances fully to his crew, they were suddenly under even newer orders to pursue a stolen [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] ship, the ''[[Darksyde]]''. Subsequently, the ''Axalon'' followed the ''Darksyde'' through a [[transwarp]] portal and crash-landed on a mysterious planet. {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}

===''Beast Wars''===
:''Voice Actor: [[Campbell Lane]] (English); [[Nobuyuki Hiyama]] (Japanese)''

[[Image:BWRampage_Badspark_thepast.jpg|thumb|right|200px|This is a great way to work out.]]

Protoform X was a [[Maximal]] experiment to recreate [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream's]] mutant, immortal [[Spark]]. Though arguably successful in this regard, the creation was unstable. In point of fact, he was criminally insane. He destroyed [[Colony Omicron]], killing all of its inhabitants save a lone security officer, [[Depth Charge]], who eventually tracked him down and captured him. The [[Maximal Elder|Maximal Elders]] had Protoform X placed into a [[stasis pod]] aboard an exploration vessel, the ''Axalon''. They instructed its commander, Optimus Primal, to dump him on some barren world in deep space.

Protoform X was among the stasis pods jettisoned by Optimus when the ''Axalon'' was damaged by [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron's]] Predacons, and only fell out of orbit far into the Beast Wars. Battle near his stasis pod shocked him into activation, and he promptly set out to terrorize all nearby Transformers, rending Tarantulas limb from limb and stalking Blackarachnia and Silverbolt. (All right, whose bright idea was it to allow the homicidal maniac to keep his weapons!?) X seemed unstoppable at first, but when one of Silverbolt's missiles jammed his tank treads as he climbed up a mountainside, he lost his grip and tumbled down the rock face in pieces.

As Protoform X lay immobilized, Megatron arrived and, using a blade of pure [[energon]], removed a portion of his indestructible spark. Megatron then had him brought back to the Predacon base and repaired. When X attempted to turn his weapons on his "savior", Megatron revealed that he held half of X's spark in a special cage lined with energon crystals, allowing him to torture the beast at will. Megatron thus welcomed him into the Predacon fold, dubbing him "Rampage". {{Storylink|Bad Spark}}

Rampage made no secret of his hatred for his new "master". Megatron kept the spark cage with him at all times, fending off at least one attempt by Rampage to take it back. Megatron eventually used the spark fragment to form the core of [[Dinobot 2]], who likewise retained the ability torture Rampage into continued loyalty with it. {{Storylink|Feral Scream Part 1}}

[[Image:Rampage-sillyhead.jpg|left|thumb|250px|I am horror and fear given form! BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA!]]
Though a violent sociopath, Rampage was not without compassion. He found a kindred spirit in the badly damaged [[Transmutate]] and sought to protect it from the other Predacons. When Transmutate was killed, Rampage bellowed in grief. {{storylink|Transmutate (Beast Wars episode)|Transmutate}}

Later, Depth Charge arrived on prehistoric Earth with the single-minded goal of destroying Rampage. Rampage was beside himself with joy, eager for revenge on his old "playmate". Depth Charge's loss at Colony Omicron had embittered him, and Rampage used this emotional wound to torment the Maximal. They met in battle numerous times, fairly evenly matched. {{Storylink|Deep Metal}}

While Megatron was retrieving the submerged [[Decepticon]] craft ''[[Nemesis]]'', Depth Charge met Rampage in battle one last time. At the battle's climax, Rampage allowed Depth Charge to kill him with a shard of raw Energon, resulting in a fantastic explosion which destroyed both. Rampage won even in death, laughing maniacally in triumph as Depth Charge made the final, stabbing blow. {{Storylink|Nemesis Part 1}}

Except that Depth Charge [[Homecoming (Universe comic)|came back to life]].

===''Beast Wars Metals'' manga===
He's a Frankenstein's monster-like thing.
He ate Primal's head. It's okay, Primal had a spare.

===''Beast Wars Transmetals'' Playstation game===

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
*'''Rampage''' (Ultra Transmetal, 1998)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-41'''
**''Accessories:'' Spring-loaded triple barrel missile launcher, 3 missiles and 1 rifle

[[Image:BW_Rampage_toy.jpg|thumb|right|200px|A [[Seafood Louis]] eater's worst nightmare.]]

:Rampage transforms into a Transmetal king crab with a tank mode that includes rubber treads. In beast mode, he features fully articulated crab legs and pincers that can open, close and be posed in a variety of angles through the use of ratcheting joints. His triple-barreled Gatling missile launcher is stored on the underside of the beast mode, with its barrels flipping to the front during vehicle mode. In this tank mode, the crab legs fit together to form a road wheel network for Rampage's rubber treads to fit over so he can roll upon them. Rolling the tank activates the wheel in the missile launcher, firing any or all of the three missiles that can store in it.

:In robot mode, Rampage is an imposingly large figure with a decent level of articulation due to his ball joints, but because he wears most of his beast mode as a sort of backpack, he is quite back-heavy. His (very) small laser rifle and his triple-barreled launcher can be held in both of his hands. It should be noted that there were two releases of the toy, one with face colors accurate with the show and another with an orange colored face (seen to the right).

:The location of four of the crab legs in the show is not accurate to the toy; the show has the legs on the shoulder pads, whereas the toy situates the legs on Rampage's arms (which mean they are rather cumbersome).

: This toy was later [[redeco]]ed into the [[BotCon 2000]]-[[exclusive]] [[Shokaract]].

{{-}}

==Trivia==
* According to the series background materials published in the ''[[Beast Wars Universe]]'' guidebook, Rampage's body was supposed to have been constructed out of leftover G1-era [[Reproduction|technology]] seen in the [[Great War]] due to the lack of know-how for protoform technology.
* Strangely, his energon-boost that revived him, seen in "Bad Spark", took place in the dense jungle, despite his awakening in a King Crab Beast Mode. No explanation has been given. Maybe there was a crab skittering around Starbase Rugby.
* Some fans are split on how to interpret Rampage's death; he is clearly shown to let go of the energon shard that killed him prior to being stabbed with it, to which Depth Charge reacted in surprise. Because of this, some fans feel this means Rampage, knowing he couldn't win the struggle, allowed himself to be impaled in order to end his torturous existence (and thus, his triumphant laughter being taken as his insane greeting of oblivion), while others believe he deliberately let go to test whether or not Depth Charge would go through with his threat of ending his life, his laughter instead being taken as solace in the knowledge that Depth Charge's obsession with him had successfully corrupted him into the same kind of monster he wanted to kill. Or, Rampage could just be batshit insane.

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Predacon/Rampage/rampage.htm Rampage at TFU.info]

==References==
<references/>

{{charstub}}

[[Category: Maximals]]
[[Category: Predacons]]
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Tigerhawk

2008-04-06T00:28:11Z

64.13.101.210: /* Trivia */

:''Tigerhawk is a [[Maximal]] and emissary of [[Vok|the Vok]] from the [[Beast Wars]] era of the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:TigerhawkGenesis1.jpg|right|250px|thumb|800-Ton Jesus.]]

In the fires of an unknown place between time and space, the [[Vok]] aliens de-Sparked and fused the bodies of [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] together to form '''Tigerhawk''', a Vok-controlled super warrior intended to bring justice to the time-disrupting Transformers on prehistoric [[Earth]]. But when the two extracted Sparks unite and re-enter Tigerhawk's body, a different purpose and personality seems to emerge.

Tigerhawk is by far the most powerful Transformers in the Beast Wars. In robot mode, Tigerhawk can fly, has missile launchers under each arm, his wings double as shields, and he has wrist-mounted electricity cannons. His beast mode contains razor sharp claws and teeth, as well as a pair of chainguns on his forearms. However, these outstanding powers are nothing compared to his uncanny shamanic abilities to control the weather and terrain of Earth almost at whim.

:''Japanese name'': '''Tigerfalcon'''

==Fiction==
===Beast Wars===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Blu Mankuma]] (English), [[Kōichi Tōchika]] (Japanese)

[[Image:OtherVictories_BirthofTigerhawk.jpg|thumb|left|250px|You see, when two Vok love each other very much...]]

Concerned with [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron's]] constant futzing with the timestream, the Vok extracted the Sparks of the inert, captive Maximals [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]]. Their bodies were merged together to form the staggeringly powerful Tigerhawk. Inhabited by two members of the Vok species, Tigerhawk travelled to Earth as a blindingly powerful energy comet.

Tigerhawk's energy-ball plunged to Earth, impacting and utterly destroying the [[Darksyde]]. Declaring himself the emissary of the Vok, he charged Megatron with "the willful disruption of time and space", and demanded Megatron's immediate surrender. Megatron was not so keen on this idea, and ordered a Predacon attack instead. Tigerhawk engaged and effortlessly defeated the entire [[Predacon]] force, then shot down Megatron. [[Optimus Primal]] arrived at that point, concerned that if Megatron was killed, the Spark of the original Megatron would also be destroyed, thus worsening the damage to the time stream. Tigerhawk dismissed Primal's concerns as intolerable interference, and buried him in the ground with a wave of his hand. Tigerhawk was seconds away from executing the unconscious Predacon leader when Tarantulas disabled him with specialized versions of his arachnoid helper-drones.

[[Image:OtherVictories_clash.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Flying Tiger, Hidden Dragon]]

Tigerhawk awoke to find himself a captive in [[Tarantulas]]' lair. The spider attempted to destroy Tigerhawk's mind by forcefully removing the Vok presence inhabiting it. Due to a fluke coincidence, Tarantulas only succeeded in destroying himself, alongside the Vok who had controlled Tigerhawk. The Sparks of Airazor and Tigatron, which followed Tigerhawk to Earth, merged to become one and entered Tigerhawk's body.{{storylink|Other Victories}}

Tigerhawk's memories appeared vague{{m-}}at first he seemed not to remember being Tigatron or Airazor, yet after a moment he recognized Earth as "home". He remembered enough specifics of the Beast Wars to find surprising the appearance of [[Cheetor]] as a Transmetal 2 and [[Optimus Primal]] in his "Optimal" form.{{storylink|Nemesis Part 1}}

[[Image:BWNemesisPt2_deathofTigerhawk.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Violent deaths in a kids show! Cool!]]

Megatron, not long afterwards, discovered the Decepticon warship ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]'', and attempted to use it to destroy the ''[[Ark]]'' itself. Tigerhawk attempted to single-handedly stop the ''Nemesis'', and despite holding his own for quite some time against the legendary warship as well as simultaneously draining the ship of it's power just by holding it off, he was killed by the ship's main cannon.{{storylink|Nemesis Part 2}}

{{-}}

===Primeval Dawn===

===Beast Wars Metals manga===
{{note|Although it picks up after the first season, the ''Beast Wars Metals'' manga is not in-continuity with the television series.}}

[[Image:Tigerfalcon1.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Four'' katanas, 'cuz godlike elemental powers just aren't enough.]]

At one point, [[Airazor (BW)|Transmetal Airazor's]] [[spark]] became separated from her body, and her body was then possessed by a malevolent force. Airazor's body did battle with [[Tigatron]], though Tigatron could not bring himself to hurt Airazor due to his affection for her. Desiring death over harming her, Tigatron gave her one of his katana and knelt down.

As evil Airazor struck his neck with the blade, the real Airazor's spark traveled through the katana and into Tigatron's body. Inside cyberspace, the two reunited Maximals embraced, vowing never to be apart again. As their sparks joined, Tigatron and Airazor were reborn as the powerful Tigerhawk! (How romantic!){{storylink|Beast Wars Metals (manga)|Beast Wars Metals}}

===3H comics===

[[Razorclaw (Universe)|Razorclaw]] was an alternate version of Tigerhawk. Unfortunately, one of the differences was his being evil and in league with [[Unicron]].{{storylink|Universe (comic)|Universe}}

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
*'''Tigerhawk''' (Transmetal 2 Ultra, 1999)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-50'''

[[Image:BW_Tigerhawk_toy.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Fly, my kitty! Fly!!]]

: Tigerhawk transforms into half-robotic, half-technorganic, flying robot tiger-thing. Yes. In beast mode, he is armed with "feather" missiles very similar to the Fuzor [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt's]], with spring-loaded switches to flip the wings forward, and flip-out missile launchers which activate when a lever on Tigerhawk's back is pulled (which also moves the wings). Under his beast head is a small cockpit with a pilot's chair (see Trivia below).

: Like ''Transmetal 2'' Megatron, Tigerhawk features a somewhat aborted "third mode", which is just a minor rearrangement of his beast mode parts with his vacuum-metalized helmet covering his beast tiger head.

: In robot mode, Tigerhawk has a decent level of articulation, though his elbow joints are designed in such a way as to be not particularly useful. Due to his heels being vacuum-metalized, they are especially susceptible to scratching, as owners are likely to reposition them frequently to cope better with the heavy wings and gimmicks on his back.

:This mold was later used to make ''[[Universe]]'' [[Razorclaw (Universe)|Razorclaw]].

{{-}}

==Trivia==
[[Image:BWRConcept25.jpg|200px|thumb|One Winged Angel]]

*The extremely short duration of Tigerhawk's appearance on the show was the result of a strange confluence of factors. At the time, it was not at all certain that the ''Beast Wars'' franchise would be ending. However, at one point, after Tigerhawk had already been written into the show at Hasbro's explicit request, the company considered not releasing his toy at all. Thus he was ordered killed off immediately, and was.<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/rec.toys.transformers.moderated/browse_frm/thread/1f02d1311fc9de33/05dc8df47640b9b7?lnk=st&q=script#05dc8df47640b9b7| Larry DiTillio explains Tigerhawk's strange, short life.]</ref> Hasbro eventually decided to release the toy regardless. Tigerhawk's toy did not appear on shelves until well after his death on the show.

*In the ''Beast Wars Metals'' manga, Tigatron was interpreted as a samurai; the katana being their weapon of choice. Hence the whole samurai motif for Tigerhawk.

*Originally, Tigerhawk, along with [[Optimal Optimus]] and Transmetal 2 Megatron were to have small driver-like figures sitting on control chairs located in cockpits on their bodies. These drivers were meant to represent their sparks. But [[Hasbro]] then later realized that kids might confuse these spark representations as drivers controlling the robots, so they were abandoned, but the cockpits remain. The spark pilot was eventually used in the Japanese release of [[Cryotek]].

*Even before they were combined into Tigerhawk, Airazor and Tigatron had a gender-ambiguous history. Tigatron was a male robot with a beast mode that seemed to be scanned from a female tiger, while Airazor was a female character in the English version of the show and male in the Japanese version.

*Although often thought of as a [[Fuzor]] because of his two-combined-animals beast mode, Tigerhawk was never officially designated as such.

*Tigerhawk's toy features a bird like helmet, which when placed over his tiger head, resembles Battle Cat. For some reason, the cartoon model didn't have this feature.

==References==
<references/>

{{-}}

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/1999/Maximal/Tigerhawk/tigerhawk.htm Tigerhawk at TFU.info]

[[Category: Beast Wars characters]]
[[Category: Maximals]]
[[Category: Transmetals 2]]
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Kup (G1)

2008-04-04T22:10:19Z

64.13.101.210: /* Cartoon continuity */

:''Kup is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Kupg1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|"Four of me, and ya got a [[quartex]]. Speakin' of quartex, that reminds me of the time..."]]

'''Kup''' is a tough old coot. He's almost as old as rust, in fact, and he was plinking [[Decepticon]]s and [[Ick-Yak]]s with acid bursts from his trusty musket laser long before most of you turbo-revvin' young punks were born. In his day, lasers didn't ''need'' to use light; they did whatever they were told to do. And liked it.

He's probably had a thousand adventures, has Kup, and he'll be glad to relate a story of any one of them at any time to a willing audience. The [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] love Kup's war stories, lapping it up like cheap [[Energon]], and don't seem to mind when he inadvertently leaves a piece out or changes the story between retellings. Old memory chips'll do that to you. Other Autobots can be less patient, and Kup finds this disrespectful and irritating. If there's one thing Kup dislikes it's when young punks don't respect their elders. If they'd only listen they might learn something. [[Hot Rod]] is one of the worst offenders in this way, but he's a good ladbot and Kup will straighten him out sooner or later, even if it takes a tank of [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]].

Occasionally, Kup's vast experience gets in his way. When a situation doesn't remind him of anything, he has trouble figuring out what to do. This doesn't happen very often.

{{quote|''Every'' place reminds you of someplace else.|[[Hot Rod]] to Kup|''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''}}

:''Japanese name:'' '''Chear'''<ref>"Chear" is used twice in English on the Kup/Wheelie "Future Cybertrons" reissue, so is presumably the transliteration Takara currently favors.</ref> (チャー, chaa) 
:''French-Canadian name:'' '''Kaisso'''
:''Italian name'': '''Blitz''', '''Char''' (''Headmasters'' dub only)
:''Hungarian name'': '''Kup''' -- '''Zsaru''' (Cop) in one of the dubs of The Movie.

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
:''Voice Actor:'' [[Lionel Stander]] → [[John Stephenson]] (US), [[Osamu Saka]] (Japan)

[[Image:kup_tale.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Matlooooooooock!]]

''Known aliases in this continuity:'' Teaspoon

Though it is not yet established when Kup joined the Earth-bound [[Autobot]]s, he was stationed at [[Autobot City]] during the 2005 invasion by the Decepticons. He was supervising construction efforts undertaken by [[Huffer]] and other workers when this work was interrupted by an impetuous drive-through by [[Hot Rod]]. Kup was determined to straighten out the adventure-seeking youth.

After the Decepticons began their attack, Kup and [[Hot Rod]] were trapped outside of Autobot City's fortress-like defenses. Thanks to an attempted hull breach by the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]]s, Kup and Hot Rod entered a small gap in one of Autobot City's heavy blast doors -- in the process, Kup crunched [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]]'s skull by running over it.

Inside the city, Kup and Hot Rod joined [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] and [[Springer]] in rigging an explosives launcher into place to help defend against the might of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. With the arrival of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] the next day, the tide of battle was turned and the Decepticons were defeated -- but at a terrible price.

When the remaining Autobots in the city were forced to head to Cybertron, Kup and Hot Rod crash-landed on [[Quintessa]], and narrowly escaped being sentenced to death there. Before this, he would pass the time during the trip by telling the Dinobots stories of his past (or complete fabrications, it's hard to tell). He was finally struck dumb by the sight of [[Unicron]] attacking Cybertron, apparently having never experienced anything quite like it before. {{Storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}

Following the events of the movie, Kup served as an advisor to the newly-minted Rodimus Prime. He taught him about ''giri''. Actually, he didn't really...he sort of stood on the sidelines making wise commentary about the kid's problems while Roddy went through it on his own. I'm sure it helped in its own way, though. {{Storylink|The Burden Hardest to Bear}}

Years later on the planet [[Nebulos]], Kup encountered the Nebulan resistance against the [[Hive (G1)|Hive]]. Using Targetmaster technology stolen from the [[Decepticons]], Kup was partnered with the Nebulan [[Recoil]], who apparently then chewed his ear off about their leader, Optimus Prime. {{Storylink|The Rebirth, Part 3}}

====Headmasters anime====
Kup and [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress]] were old friends. {{Storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}}

===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
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''Several hundred years ago, Kup became afflicted with combat fatigue, a loss of nerves and will brought on by too many millions of years of non-stop fighting. Considering himself a liability to the Autobot cause, Kup went into "retirement" -- wandering space alone in his starship, waiting for the end to eventually take him. He was shaken out of his misery when he crossed paths with a pair of Tyroxian fighters attempted to destroy a lone spacecraft. Spurred into action, Kup disabled the pursuers and brought the hunted pilot on-board, surprisingly finding him to be a fellow Autobot, Hot Rod. Hot Rod was thrilled to have found aid, and eagerly tried to recruit Kup into helping him return to [[Tyroxia]] and save his comrade [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]], but Kup wasn't interested in getting involved any further, and only agreed to take Hot Rod back to Cybertron. The young punk reprogrammed the ship's navigation computers, though, and landed on Tyroxia to rescue Blurr by himself. Kup was finally shaken out of his funk when he realized that Hot Rod represented everything he used to be, and single-handedly saved Hot Rod and Blurr from their Tyroxian tormentors. His fighting spirit restored, Kup returned to Cybertron with the two Autobots, and joined [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]' troop alongside his new allies. {{Storylink|Kup's Story!}}''

When Fortress Maximus became disheartened by the never-ending cycle of violence on Cybertron, he made plans to escape the war and set up a new life on the planet [[Nebulos]]. Kup and many of his top warriors chose to follow their leader to this new world, aboard the starship [[Steelhaven]]. Tragically, a series of incidents and misunderstandings brought the Autobots and Nebulans to the brink of war within days of their arrival. Kup was all for forcibly teaching the Nebulans some manners, but Fortress Maximus forbade it. In a desperate attempt to show their true intentions, Fort Max, Kup and several others disarmed themselves in front of the Nebulan gates. Furthermore, Fortress Maximus and four of his lieutenants beheaded themselves and agreed to leave their lifeless heads and bodies, as well as their various weapons, in Nebulan custody so that serious peace talks could be conducted. Kup took over command of the Autobot wilderness camp in Fortress Maximus' absence. {{Storylink|Ring of Hate!}}

Matters quickly deteriorated after the arrival of the Decepticons, and two factions of Nebulans joined with both Autobots and Decepticons through bio-mechanical engineering to become Headmasters. Events turned against the Autobots, as [[Lord Zarak]], the Nebulan politician binary-bonded to Decepticon leader [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], was able to sway public opinion in favor of the Decepticons, labeling the Autobots as renegades and taking their Headmasters prisoner. Some Nebulans remained loyal to Fortress Maximus' partner, [[Galen]], and traveled to the Autobot camp to forge an alliance. Making use of a new form of bio-mechanical engineering, Kup and the other weaponless Autobots were teamed with Nebulan Targetmasters to replace their lost guns. Kup personally was teamed with Recoil. As the conflict continued, though, both camps of Nebulans began to realize the devastation they were causing to their homeworld, and decided to quit Nebulos and travel to Earth in search of other Transformers. {{Storylink|Brothers in Armor!!}} The crew of Steelhaven soon found themselves linked with the Ark's Autobots, and under the overall command of Optimus Prime. {{Storylink|Club Con!}}

Kup soon took over as Prime's head of security aboard the Ark, and one of his top advisors. As a result, it fell on Kup to tell Optimus he was screwing up and losing the troops' support. Optimus Prime listened to him long and hard...and proceeded to surrender the entire Autobot army to [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]. (Way to go, Kup {{m-}} Prime would've at least ''pretended'' to consider [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]'s suggestions.) {{Storylink|Surrender!}}

In an alternate future of 2009, the Autobots were overwhelmed by the forces of evil. Unicron consumed Cybertron utterly, and Earth came under heavy fire from Galvatron and his Decepticon legions. Kup and Blurr were personally executed by Cyclonus and Scourge. {{storylink|Rhythms of Darkness!}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====

''In 2003, Kup was given the job to decoy the Decepticons over the plans for Autobot City. Ultra Magnus needed to get the plans to Earth's various governments unimpeded, while also taking steps to ensure the Decepticons would not get in the way of the Autobot efforts to build the city. So, he made an open and showy display of tasking Kup with being the courier that would bring the information to the humans. Sure enough, the Decepticon spy [[Ravage]] overheard those plans, and sent the [[Stunticon]]s out to intercept the old Autobot. Despite Hot Rod's good-intentioned efforts to stop them, the Stunticons made off with the fake plans, secure in their knowledge that they now knew the secrets of Autobot City. {{storylink|Ark Duty}} Kup was also present at the grand opening of the city a year later. {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}}''

''After the attack on Autobot City in 2006, Kup, Hot Rod and Blurr received a psychic proding from Unicron, alerting them to Galvatron's travel through the timestream back to 1986. Using Galvatron's own time-jump mechanisms, the Autobot trio followed him back into the past, mass-displacing [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] in the process. Apparently reaching an instinctive conclusion that Galvatron could never be returned to the future by force, Kup and his comrades conspired with the Ultra Magnus of 1986 to trick the Decepticon into returning of his own volition.''

''As Ultra Magnus kept Galvatron busy, the future trio made arrangements to discourage him from staying. When he returned to his base, Galvatron found his henchmen knocked unconscious and his super-weapon rigged to explode. Once it did, he was confronted with a taunting [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] claiming credit, and was egged into blowing the treacherous Decepticon into smithereens. Believing Starscream's death at this juncture altered history, making his actions in 1986 part of an alternate timeline that wouldn't affect his own future, Galvatron reluctantly gave up his plans, picked up his goons, and returned to the future. Kup and his comrades, having successfully framed Starscream and driven Galvatron away, returned to 2006 themselves soon after. {{storylink|Target: 2006}}''

''After Unicron was defeated in 2006 and Hot Rod rose to become [[Rodimus Prime]], Galvatron went missing. Unable to accept the Decepticon leader was truly dead without seeing the body, Rodimus Prime went searching for him with Kup and Blurr. Unfortunately, his lax attention to Cybertron gave the new Decepticon commander, Shockwave, time to consolidate the army under his control and begin the war anew. Rodimus was forced to return to Cybertron empty-handed, and only made matters worse when he rashly took out a 10,000 [[shanix]] reward for any bounty hunter who could find Galvatron for him. This led to a freelance peacekeeping agent named [[Death's Head]] traveling back in time to 1987, where he had learned Galvatron had escaped after the battle with Unicron. {{storylink|Wanted - Galvatron Dead or Alive}} Realizing that a trigger-happy mercenary messing with the timestream was just as dangerous as Galvatron could ever be, Rodimus arranged a time-jump to clean up his mess, taking Kup, Blurr and [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] back to 1987 along with him. {{storylink|Burning Sky!}}''

''In the past, the future Autobots once again found the 20th century Ultra Magnus fighting with Galvatron, as the Decepticon leader attempted to extract vast amounts of energy from a volcano. Mere seconds after locating Galvatron and engaging him in combat, however, Kup and Blurr were knocked off-line when Galvatron hurled Ultra Magnus's beaten body at them. {{storylink|Hunters!}} After regrouping, the Autobots concocted a plan to steal Galvatron's time-jump mechanism and rewire it to propel them all back to their proper place and time. While Kup and the others distracted Galvatron, Wreck-Gar and Rodimus Prime attempted to make the proper modifications. In the end, however, only the Autobots were launched back to the future - Galvatron had modified the device so that the temporal backlash did not affect him, and he stayed in the past. {{storylink|Fire on High!}}''

''In 2008, Kup was on-hand to witness a full-scale Decepticon assault at Autobase on Cybertron. He fought alongside Rodimus Prime and the other Autobots and, when Rodimus traveled to the planet of [[Junk]] to deal with Unicron (the cause behind the Decepticon offensive), Kup stepped up to lead the remaining Autobot forces alongside Ultra Magnus until [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] sounded a retreat, and the Decepticons fled. {{storylink|The Legacy of Unicron!}} Later that year, Autobot City was attacked by [[Quintesson]]s, and the deactivated Autobots were hung out on the outer walls as a warning for any would-be rescuers. Kup came to Earth with Rodimus Prime and crew to deal with the usurpers, and led an advance team of Blurr, [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] and [[Wide Load (G1)|Wide Load]] in searching the complex. They were caught in a heated battle with the Quintessons shock troopers, but managed to hold their own long enough for Roddy to reach the control center and activate [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] himself. Resistance faltered rather quickly after that. {{storylink|Space Pirates!}}''

''As time passed, the long-term effects of Galvatron's presence in the past became overwhelming. A full-on time storm began brewing at both ends of the timeline, 1989 and 2009. In order to set the universe back on the right course, Rodimus Prime and Kup chose to travel back in time with Blurr, Arcee, Ultra Magnus and [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]] to retrieve Galvatron. No really, for sure this time. Problem was, this time their mass-displacement upon arrival took out 1989's Optimus Prime and several fellow Autobots, leading to more than a little consternation among their 20th century counterparts. [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]], guided by his neophyte [[Headmaster]] partner, [[Spike Witwicky]], jumped to the conclusion that Optimus was dead, and led his Autobots into battle with Rodimus and his group. Kup didn't fare too well at trying to fight [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] hand-to-hand, but soon cooler heads prevailed, and the Autobots not only joined forces with each other, but also a pair of detachments from the 1989 and 2009 Decepticon camps as well.''

''As the various groups tracked down Galvatron, they were shocked to find that not only had he joined forces with Megatron, but that the two of them had laid waste to the Cybertronian teams of the Autobot [[Wrecker]]s and the Decepticon [[Mayhem Attack Squad]]. Kup joined Arcee and Ultra Magnus in trying to gun down Megatron, but was batted aside by the Decepticon's [[fusion cannon]] and lay unconscious, out of the battle for the rest of the conflict. Still, Galvatron was ultimately destroyed in battle with Optimus Prime, and consumed wholly by the timestorm, restoring the timestream to a stable place. Kup and the other 2009 Autobots gathered together and prepared to return home to their lives. {{storylink|Time Wars}}''

''It didn't quite work out that way.''

''Back in 2009, the Autobots were horrified to find that Galvatron waited for them on Cybertron. It seemed the restoration of the timeline prevented Galvatron from having ever traveled back in time, and thus he had been present at the Decepticons' side for the last few years, which considerably altered the war effort in their favor. In the new 21st century, Galvatron and the Decepticons virtually controlled Cybertron, and only a few token bands of Autobot resistance remained on their home planet. Kup and the returnees adjusted as best they could, but the odds were hopelessly against them. The resistance on Cybertron ended when Galvatron and his men ransacked a resistance station, killing Blurr and the other Autobots present. Galvatron mutilated the corpses to drive Rodimus Prime into a killing frenzy, hoping to corrupt the [[Matrix]] itself through its host. Indeed, Kup and Arcee began experiencing fire in the depths of their souls before they managed to talk down Rodimus. The Autobots of Cybertron were then forced to flee the world entirely. {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}}''

''On their voyage back to Earth and Autobot City, the Autobot shuttlecraft had just entered hyperspace when [[Pincher]] and [[Doubleheader]] alerted Kup to a problem: sabotage. Someone had killed a guard and tore up the engine room, damaging the guidance systems so that the ship would be flying blind when they came out of warp into who-knows-what. Sure enough, the ship materialized too close to Earth, and another bit of sabotage prevented the emergency retros from stopped their descent. It was going to be a heavy hit. What's worse, Kup's efforts to isolate the Decepticon life-signs of their saboteur turned up a nasty truth -- no additional life signs were present on the shuttle. The saboteur was an Autobot! {{storylink|The Void! (UK)|The Void!}} After failing to locate Rodimus Prime during the time the sabotage was being committed, Kup had a sinking feeling and set up a ruse to test Prime. When Arcee left to try and enter the sealed retro room through the air vents, Kup told Rodimus she was actually going to sneak through the coolant tanks. Fortunately for their landing, Arcee succeeded just in time. Unfortunately for...well, everything else, Kup was right: Rodimus Prime was the saboteur, possessed by the pure malevolence of Unicron, which had taken up residence inside the Matrix sometime ago. Apparently Galvatron's efforts to corrupt Rodimus back on Cybertron had jarred loose enough evil for Unicron to take hold on Rodimus Prime's consciousness. {{storylink|Edge of Impact}}''

''Battling the power of the Matrix influenced by the Devil himself, the Autobots were sorely outmatched against Rodimus. Despite Arcee's urgings, Kup desperately searched for another option besides lethal force. {{storylink|Shadow of Evil}} In the short term, Kup seemed to be correct: Rodimus managed to fight back Unicron's evil, caging it inside the Matrix long enough for Kup to remove the object from Rodimus's chest, temporarily severing their link. {{storylink|White Fire}} In the long term, however, the threat was far from over. Rodimus would again be consumed by evil in 2010, this time metamorphosizing in Unicron reborn for a time, before caging the evil again. Kup and Arcee were present at this second rise of Unicron, but their ultimate fate is unknown. It is telling, however, that Rodimus Prime appears to be beaten, ill, and totally alone by the time of 2356. {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}}''

====Generation 2====

After the Autobot army splintered throughout the universe, Kup was working alongside Optimus Prime and Hot Rod when [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] summoned them for help. This led into a protracted war with the [[Jhiaxus|Liege Centuro]] and his [[Cybertronian]]s. {{Storylink|War Without End (US)|War Without End}}

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
During the Cybertronian War's earlier years, a young Kup served alongside [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] under the command of Grimlock. He appeared to be the only one who would speak up against Grimlock. {{storylink|The War Within}} When Optimus Prime and Megatron disappeared in a prototype [[Space Bridge]] accident, Kup followed his unit to the [[Lightning Strike Coalition]] offshoot of the [[Autobot]] faction. {{storylink|The War Within: The Dark Ages}}

Along with [[Arcee]], [[Blaster]], Hot Rod and [[Wheelie]], Kup was part of a resistance group during [[Shockwave]]'s control of Cybertron. Their group managed to find Optimus Prime, but Prime's first sight was the frightening [[Gnaw]], and he had to be restrained. When Hot Rod pulled a weapon on the startled [[Prime (rank)|Autobot leader]], Kup smacked the turbo-revvin' punk upside his head. [[Primus|God]], what is wrong with that kid? After linking up with the former ''Ark'' crew and having a touching reunion with Ironhide, the Autobots managed to overthrow Shockwave's regime, bringing the planet under Autobot control. {{storylink|War and Peace}}

===''Teletraan Go! Go!'' mini-comics===
[[Image:TGGKup.jpg|100px|thumb|"I'm a crazy old man! Pay attention to me!"]]

Kup stopped a feisty Wheelie from annoying [[Teletraan 15]]. When she thanked him, he recognized her, gave her a big old spine-cracking hug, reminisced about the time with the giant [[Ick-Yaks]], realized he actually had ''no idea'' who she was, and drove off.

:''('''Note''': In an aside, [[Teletraan 10]] boggles over the fact that Kup's weapon is a musket laser that fires hydrochloric acid over 8km, which makes absolutely no sense to her. Or anyone but [[Bob Budiansky]], probably.)''

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===IDW comics continuity===
Kup is extremely old. In years past, he's trained dozens of Autobots, including [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]], [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], and even [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]].

Shortly after the [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing's]] first apocalyptic assault, the besieged Autobots prepared for the big push against their positions by the Decepticons. Kup was in a trench alongside [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]], Huffer and the injured [[Getaway]], waiting for [[Blaster]]'s morale-boosting broadcast to the Autobot forces, a transmission that never came. {{Storylink|Spotlight: Blaster}}

At some point after Cybertron was abandoned, Kup and [[Outback (G1)|Outback]] crash-landed on a mysterious planet covered with radioactive crystals. Over time, Kup was slowly driven insane from the radiation; he talked to the dead corpse of Outback as though he were still alive (and used his disembodied arm as a club) and believed that [[zombie]]s were attacking him when he shut down for the night. In reality, these zombies were fellow Autobots sent to rescue him, and Kup killed several of them before Springer managed to get a [[Trailbreaker (G1)|specialist]] in to extract the aging Autobot. Unfortunately, due to the damage Kup sustained from the radiation, his incompatibility with modern Transformers tech due to his age and stubborn unwillingness to upgrade, and a near-meltdown of his spark, he was placed on life support upon arriving aboard [[Ark-17]], and it was unknown if he would ever recover - physically or mentally. {{storylink|Spotlight: Kup}}

Springer eventually reported to Optimus Prime that Kup's physical injuries had been repaired, but the state of his mind was still in question. {{storylink|Spotlight: Optimus Prime}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
*'''Kup''' (Autobot, 1986)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-82'''

[[Image:G1_Kup_toy.jpg|thumb|left|"Back in my day, we hauled cargo all day long without a tailgate and LIKED it!"]]

: Kup transforms into a Cybertronic pickup truck (though how he is able to carry goods safely with no tailgate is a mystery). The entire front of the vehicle (including the windshield) is made out of die-cast metal. In robot mode Kup has full shoulder rotation, though the way his elbows are set up means he cannot make full use of their joints, but (somewhat) makes up for it with swivel wrists. His legs feature no articulation whatsoever. Maybe Hot Rod left a piece out. He is armed with a blue laser rifle. Early releases of Kup had metal rear wheels, while later releases replaced them with black plastic.

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*'''Kup''' (Targetmaster, 1987)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-113'''

: Kup (this time using all-plastic parts rather than die-cast) was slightly [[retool]]ed with larger fist-holes and a mounting point on his vehicle mode back-end in order to make him into a [[Targetmaster]]. He came with his Nebulan partner [[Recoil]] rather than his original blaster.

*'''Future Cybertron''' (Transformers Collection, 2005)
:''Japanese ID number:'' '''TF-20'''

: Targetmaster Kup was reissued in Japan, and like the "[[Transformers Collection]]" reissue of [[Hot Rod]], he came with his original metal parts restored, as well as both his partner Recoil ''and'' his original gun, which was slightly retooled to fit the larger weapon-mounting points. The set also came with a redecoed [[Wheelie]].

: This iteration of the mold was used to make [[Optimus Prime (G1) toys#Generation 1|Orion Pax]].

===Merchandise===

==Trivia==
* Check out the Kup toy's chest-sticker... it's got a pair of [[Floppy disk|5 1/4-inch floppy disk]] drives on it. Apparently, he can store up to two extra Transformers' brains.

* In the Japanese ''[[Binaltech Asterisk]]'' online manga, a little lost kitty was rescued from certain death (well, being stuck in a tree) by [[Ai Kuruma]] and [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]]. That kitty was named [[Cha]] (Kup's Japanese name).

* Kup was given an [[homage]] in the ''[[Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' toy line in the form of [[Brakedown (Cybertron)|Brakedown GTS]], a "powered-up" [[redeco]] of that series' cantankerous old coot character, with the colors changed to resemble Kup's. Brakedown's vehicle mode also resembles Kup's Cybertronian vehicle mode from the War Within comic series.

* He claims on his MySpace page (see External links) that he's a [[Covenant|Pisces]].<ref>
Kup's Myspace page was created by [[Nick Roche]] to promote his IDW [[Spotlight: Kup]] story.</ref> It is best to remember, however, that at the time he wrote this he was utterly [[Galvatron (G1)|insane]].

==References==
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==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Kup/kup.htm Kup at TFU.info]

* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Kup Kup's Universe profile on NTFA.net]

* [http://www.myspace.com/lostkup Kup's MySpace page]

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Beast Wars: Transformers (video game)

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'''Beast Wars: Transformers''' is a third-person shooting game released for the PC platform in 1996. It was later [[Wikipedia:Shovelware|ported]] to the Sony Playstation platform.

[[Image:Bw game wtf.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Dude! '''Dude.''' Seriously... ''what in the hell?!'']]

Players picked their side and sent their Transformers on missions against both the opposing side and the [[Skriix]] aliens.

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==Gameplay==
The basic object of the game is to run around blindly and shoot everything in sight. You have two meters: your life meter and an energon shield meter that drains while you're in robot mode (switching to beast mode stops the process and allows it to slowly refill, but you can't attack in this mode). Both sides have four characters you can play as, and if you lose one, they're lost for good unless you can find a "rescue" icon in the level and complete the resultant rescue mission. It is generally a few shades this side of sadomasochistic.

==Playable characters==
===Maximals===
* [[Optimus Primal]]
* [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]]
* [[Rattrap]]
* [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]]
* [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]]
* [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] ("rescue" levels only)

===Predacons===
* [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]
* [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]]
* [[Tarantulas]]
* [[Blackarachnia]]
* [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]]
* [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] ("rescue" levels only)

==Trivia==
* A game model was made for [[Waspinator]] with plans to have him in the game, but those ultimately fell through.
* The Beast Wars cast did not reprise their characters' voices for the game, and while their presence would have made the game marginally better, it's probably best that they managed to avoid marching in this crap parade.
* While the Playstation version of the game was limited to a single-player affair, the PC version surprisingly had an option to play with up to 8 people over LAN or online; in fact, for a while during the game's release, the MSN Gaming Zone reserved several rooms for multiplayer Beast Wars games. "Fans" of the game claim this is enough to dredge the game out from being horrible to barely mediocre.

==External Links==
* [http://www.download.com/Beast-Wars-Transformers-demo/3000-7563_4-889284.html Playable demo on download.com]
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