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== Continuity / Timeline ==
I'm trying to make some sense of how the various major continuities are handled, overview-wise. Some have their own continuity page; IDW's just got a timeline, with overview stuff shoved here and there among the individual miniseries. Some don't have anything. Some, like the G1 cartoon, are not much more than lists. The ones that exist tend to be hard to find, aren't categorized uniformly, etc... is there a master format for this stuff?{{unsigned|Repowers|12:15, 29 October 2007}}
:There is no master format for continuity pages. Please feel free to make one! It would be a good thing to have! --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 00:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:: You know, I think it would be hot if once we got more timelines up, we began putting Chronology links to the timetable on the story pages. Several Dreamwave comic pages have them, and I think IDW comics should too, since IDW really isn't telling the story in a linear fashion.--[[User:Zodberg|Zodberg]] 09:36, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Sounds like a good idea. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 13:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::Would it make sense to have an overview writeup at the start of each timeline, a few paragraphs or so? Or should "continuity" be a separate page? Where should a chronological list of issues go -- publisher's page, continuity page, timeline page? That's not such a problem with, say, Marvel G1, but Dreamwave's a little messier, IDW's all over the place, and gods help you if you want to sort out the mess that is Marvel UK. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 14:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:: A continuity page should have the following (in my opinion):
:: * A one-paragraph description of the continuity, not more than a few sentences long.
:: * A list of what media belongs to this continuity (which can include some stuff that's vaguely contradictory, but should exclude stuff that's way out there, like Earthforce relative to G1 comics). This can be sorted by publication order, or internal chronology, but if there's a major difference between the two, it should be spelled out.
:: * An overall description of the main events in that continuity, focusing on the events actually chronicled (not the distant past). In particular, for most continuities, changes in the leadership of either side, the changing status (living/dead, present/absent, duplicated by Straxus/encoded on a floppy, etc.)of the big two leaders (usually Optimus Prime and Megatron), any events involving Unicron or Primus, and introductions of major teams or groups of characters (Headmasters, Fuzors) should be in the summary.
:: * If necessary, a timeline, which may end up integrated with one of the above parts.
:: * Pointers to important and closely-related continuities (again, such as Earthforce), discussion of divergences, etc. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::All that sounds pretty good, though I wouldn't get too hung up on following individual characters too much, even the leaders. In Marvel G1, at least, they changed over on a pretty regular basis.
:::On a related note... this and a lot of other overview-type pages are really lost in the shuffle. They should be top-level pages, with everything branching off of them and linking back to them, but instead they're buried and nothing links to them. You start off reading, say, the article on [[Spotlight: Soundwave]]. Where do you go from there to find out more? The IDW issues category? That's the only link out of that page. If you're a newcomer, or even someone with an imperfect memory, how do you know what comes next? Either the individual issue pages need to link to the timeline and continuity pages, or the category page does, or... something.
:::Taking care of it on the category page might be simplest, like what's on the Category:Marvel US issues page. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:12, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::: Yes, the site is sadly lacking in both "uplinks" and "sidelinks" for the media; links from a TV episode to the TV series, links from an issue of a comic to an overview of the comic, links from one comic to the next comic in that series, etc. [[User:JW|JW]] 19:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::::: I'm still poking around and figuring out what's been done and what's needed; it might take a while to figure out how to start cleaning things up. It looks like we've got some random timelines started (still need ones for the Beast era and a few others), as well as continuity pages for some but not all of the major storylines, so I suppose each major continuity should have both kinds of pages. I wonder if there's a way to use a category or subcategory to get individual episode/issue pages to quickly link back to the main overview pages?... -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::: JW, we do have that comics nav template, though I like the comic infobox on wikipedia more. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 20:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::::: Ah... http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Comicnav ...so we do. Very useful. Now we just gotta propagate it over a few hundred comic issue... :S -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::::: Also, the nav setup only can link up one level. So Infiltration #2 can link up to the main Infiltration page, but not to the IDW continuity page above that. Would putting a variant of this template on the main page for each miniseries, linking up to the continuity page, work instead? Then you're never more than two clicks away from an individual issue to the continuity overview. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::: That, or somehow add it to the main comicnav template, perhaps in <small>small letters</small> above the series name. I don't wanna step on anyone's toes though. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 20:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::: That'd make the most sense, to add a "Continuity" level to the template, or alternately a lower-end "Mini-series" option. But hell if I can make sense out of how these things work... that might be a rainy day project, figuring that out. :\ -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

==Continuity error?==

I've noticed a few errors in episode summaries that are listed as continuity errors, but really aren't. An example from from Divide and Conquer:

<i>Optimus Prime somehow deflects a heat-seeking missile by hitting its warhead with his arm.</i>

I think this would be better described as a technical error. It is an example of a technical fact being misrepresented, not an internal continuity discrepancy. However, the sections titled "Technical and/or animation glitches" seem to only contain technical glitches specifically related to cartoon production. Is this how it should be, or am I just looking at the wrong stories to judge by?

If the latter, great, I'll just move the note. If the former... well, I think that's incorrect, but of course I'll go with it if that's consensus.

Is that consensus? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 16:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

:I noticed a couple of things like this on the "Transport to Oblivion" article, and moved them from the "Continuity errors" section to the "Miscellaneous trivia" section, which seemed more appropriate. "Technical and/or animation glitches" should be reserved for actual production errors, and not used for things that are "errors" in the way of not actually making real-world sense. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 16:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
::It'd be far more fun if we had a snarkily-titled section specifically for such things. ie How Can That Be? or WTF? Or at least Improbable Events. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 02:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, what are the categories of "error"? A) '''Animation/Production Error:''' That's clearly huffer, but he's pink. / Starscream is talking in Arcee's voice. / Swoop's arm is seventeen feet away from Swoop's shoulder. B) '''Continuity Error:''' Airraid is present in this shot, but he's supposed to be on Earth. And dead. / Soundwave was present at this battle, though Megatron told him to stay behind and guard his Butterfingers. / Five Faces of Darkness: Passim. C) '''Plot Errors:''' Evil plans that make no sense. / Retreating for no reason. D) '''Science Errors:''' Deflecting missiles by hitting them on the warhead. / Yeah, the Transformers have never heard of ''water,'' right. / Neutron bombs are actually ill-suited for use against robots. [[User:JW|JW]] 03:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I can totally get behind an ERRORS. OF. ''SCIENCE!'' subsection. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 03:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

== Comic Issues Naming Convention ==

Okay, so [[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] and I have gone back and forth on this, so I'm putting it out in the open. He's lobbying for the format to be "Comic Name (issue number)" with the issue number only being there if it's a multi-part story. Personally, I don't care what the spotted heck we use as long as we use the same format for all the comic issues. Thus to get this noticed and foster discussion, here it is. Ideally once we decide something, it'd be great if we could get Walky or Suki to bot-edit everything so we're over and done with that.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 00:45, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:My reasoning is this: The title of the issue is not "Escalation, part 1", it's merely the first part of the title "Escalation". Also I don't care is we use "Escalation (part 1)", "Escalation (issue 1)" or "Escalation (#1)" as long as we're consistent. Please see my talk page for the conversation with Rosicrucian. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 00:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
:I'm a little reluctant to make a universal rule on this sort of thing. Contrary to MistaTee's statement, sometimes the title of a story really ''is'' "Blah blah, Part 1". However, in cases where there is no known title (like most of the IDW issues), I think "Series Name issue #" would be best, much like what we already have for the [[:Category:Dreamwave Armada issues|Dreamwave Armada]] series (except that, of course, normally the publisher's name wouldn't be in the title, it's only there for Armada to differentiate from the Panini series). It doesn't feel right to me to have a comma or a set of parentheses. That's the model I would prefer for the IDW minis. In cases of a multi-part story which has a known title and takes place in a series of a different title, but the individual parts do not have titles, we can't use the word "issue". So... then I guess either "Story Name, part #" or "Story Name (part #)" is cool with me. I guess I have a slight preference for the comma approach, since it mirrors the way multi-part stories are titled when they are actually given titles. I agree with MistaTee that decapitalizing "part" in those cases is more correct, although it's not an issue that engenders any passion within me. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 18:25, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
::That actually makes a fair amount of sense to me. If we consider that we're treating these as multi-part stories similar to the way they are in the animated series episode summaries, it does follow that it would be "Infiltration, part 1" and so forth in absence of specific issue titles. It works for the miniseries issues, at the least.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 15:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I've sorta grown a fondness toward "issue", since each individual comic IS an issue of a larger title or miniseries. I also favor the parentheses since the word "issue" is not part of the title. When the TPB is released for Escalation, for example, it is not separated by "issue" or "part", etc, it's a free flowing story. Therefore it's simply "''Escalation'' (issue 1)". Now if the issue itself actually uses the word "part" or whatever (as in the UK strips for example) then I have no problem using it. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 16:31, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::::I don't think a an article title like "Escalation issue 3" causes any confusion -- the word issue and numeral 3 are clearly not part of the comic's title. It's just saying that the article is about the third issue of Escalation: "{Name of a comic series} issue {issue number}". Parentheticals in article titles, to me, are meant to differentiate between multiple entities that have the same name. The various issues of Escalation do not have the same name -- they have no names at all. "Escalation issue 3" then is a purely descriptive article title which doesn't imply anything about the title of that issue. "Escalation, part 3" avoids my parentheses concern and would be acceptable to me (it is of the form "{Name of a multipart story}, part {part number}"), but I'd rather we explicitly refer to issues as issues when possible. In self-analysis I can't think of a reason for that preference, so it may be arbitrary. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 21:50, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::Personally, I ''greatly'' prefer "Comic name, issue #". Or "Comic name, part #". I really don't like the parentheses - we generally have used them solely for disambiguation, and I think we should maintain that. - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 05:46, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::"Issue" has the great advantage of being totally unambiguous. Everyone knows exactly what an "issue" is, as opposed to a "part", a "book", or whatever else. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 05:51, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

As some food for thought, I took a look at the inside covers to see how IDW actually parses things.

*Infiltration uses "The Transformers # _", with "Infiltration" printed a line beneath it.

*Stormbringer uses "The Transformers: Stormbringer # _".

*Escalation uses the "The Transformers" logo with "Escalation" underneath basically as an extension of the logo. Further down on the page is printed "Issue Number ___", with the number actually written out.

*Like Stormbringer, Devastation uses "The Transformers: Devastation # _".

Stormbringer and Devastation have an obvious solution here. Simply drop the "The Transformers:" and just use the "Series Title # _" format. No commas, parentheticals, or extra words needed. It might be simpler to just apply this format to Infiltration and Escalation as well.

However, if we'd rather stick closer to the titles printed in the actual comics, Escalation should probably be "Escalation, Issue Number One" and so forth. I'm not quite sure on Infiltration though, as the way it's formatted in those books doesn't allow for a simple discard of the "The Transformers" part. Keeping that in could mean either "The Transformers # _, Infiltration" or maybe "The Transformers # _ (Infiltration)" --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 06:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

:More food for thought... I also just checked at the inside covers and discovered a rather consistent pattern. If you look at the small writing at the bottom, all the IDW "-ation" series seem to have it formatted "The Transformers: Infiltration #1", "The Transformers: Escalation #1", "The Transformers: Devastation #1", "The Transformers: Megatron Origin #1", etc. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 08:53, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'll like to point out that the "#" can't be used in article titles. (Since it's used in links to point to sections.) [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 09:16, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Dammit, back to square 1, lol. Well on the front cover they all seem to use "issue #X" right under the IDW logo. Without the # symbol, that would be "issue X". If we can decide on the word "issue" at least, we can debate whether to format it as "issue X", "Issue X", "(issue X)" or "(Issue X)" --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 14:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Echoing the "dammit." Personally, I really dislike the current use of (issue X), with its uncapitalized word inside parenthesis. It just looks... wrong... to me. I think "Title, issue X" would be much better, but that's just me. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Something worth noting: if we use parentheses, we can use pipe magic on the title in question.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 20:00, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:Example? --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 20:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
::If you link to an article with a parenthetical reference in its title, you can use an empty pipe to auto-fill the link. For example <nowiki>[[Revelation (IDW)|]]</nowiki> gets parsed as [[Revelation (IDW)|Revelation]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 20:51, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Ah, that '''is''' a nice feature. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 20:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think pipe magic will be helpful when linking to individual issues, though. If I were going to link to Infiltration #4 I would probably want the link to state which issue it went to instead of making it look like it goes to the series' "hub" page. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 22:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Glancing over the more recent posts -- and thanks for chiming in, folks -- it appears that a non-parentheses style is more popular. Further, the IDW books themselves seem to vary the way they write out their titles in minor ways, although the indicia consistently use "{Series Name} #{Issue Number}". This makes me think that my previous suggestion to follow the style "Infiltration issue 4" or "Infiltration, issue 4" is going to be best. I prefer the style without a comma, but it's not a big deal to me either way. Opinions on that? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 22:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
:If the parentheses are definitely out, I suppose the non-comma version --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 03:05, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

== Current troll problem ==

Is there a way to keep the IP addresses our resident troll has been using from creating accounts? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:58, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:Presumably that's the "account creation disabled" part of the block log. So I ''think'' he's hopping IPs before creating winners like [[User:Optimus the F22|Optimus the F22]]--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 01:02, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:The staff at Wikia would probably be able to help. They are aware of Assautlhead, and consider him a cross wiki vandal. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 01:03, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
::I looked at Wikia's block log, and the logs shows when it is used. So apperently our admins haven't been making use of it. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 01:19, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Or at the least that there's a difference between local account creation and global account creation. I'll admit I'm a little fuzzy on the distinction regarding how Wikia works versus a more standard wiki.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 01:23, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

YOU WILL SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT ASSAULTHEAD OR I WILL BEAT YOU UP FAST THAT YOUR FUCKING HEADS WILL SPIN! THAT NAME MAKES ME SICK!([[User:64.58.144.10|64.58.144.10]] 09:44, 23 November 2007 (UTC))

== Indonesian version ==

I noticed than an [http://id.transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Halaman_Utama Indonesian version] of this wiki was just launched- could we link to that from the same pull -down menu on the front page that currently just links to the Hungarian version? --[[User:TVsGrady|TVsGrady]] 17:11, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

==Administrators==
Any chance we can get at least one more administrator for late hours? If the current idiot rage is any indicator, we need it. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 09:42, 23 November 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

User talk:ItsWalky

2007-11-23T09:43:06Z

64.58.144.10: /* Category: Things that don't exist */

--I'm deeply sorry

=="Deadside"?==

Umm, who? what? I just don't think you're funny, but no, I don't know you and you don't know me. [[User:66.28.139.242|66.28.139.242]] 03:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

==Something I Noticed==

I see that when new users come in - I did this too - one of the first things they start to do is edit out the silly captions and some of the humor from the Wiki. This is mostly stemming from the transition from Wikipedia and other Wikis to Teletraan-1, since most others have strict no-humor. Is there a way to put up some sort of banner in the "Help Contents" guide, that explains, look, we're silly here sometimes?

And, um, that guy below is just funny as hell. [[User:Mirai Gen|Mirai Gen]] 19:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

==Things to say to you==
[[Image:Ttoc.GIF|right|thumb|We approve this message.]]

Just some thing I've been wanting to say to David...

First off, you're a monumental asshole. You have an ego the size of a small planet and it's irritating watching you act like an important SOB when you're basically just a nobody.

Second, your webcomics aren't funny. They're boring tripe that makes Penny Arcade look good(and believe me, Penny Arcade is garbage). Cyanide and Happiness is a funny webcomic, yours is not. Your "jokes" are painful, about like watching Michael Richards yell the n-word as a routine. You don't draw a comic, you draw an opinionated blog. I'm not sure which name suits your crap better, "ShitPacked" or "ShortDicked".

Your liberalism and your love of Indiana get on my nerves. You jab at Mallard Filmore? Yeah, one shitty comic making fun of another shitty comic. Or are you just pissed that his gets in newspapers while you're JUST a webcomic? As to Indiana, I live here, and if it were up to me, the state would be walled off and none of the freaks living there allowed to interact with the rest of the planet. The state is about 3 decades behind the times. But something tells me even you know this otherwise you'd still live here. I sure as hell do not live here by choice and as soon as I can, I'm moving far away from this joke of a state.

And your brand loyalty is typical fandom crap. You have Aaron Archer's rod so far down your throat it's unreal. And Aryan fucktard Michael Bay's rod has apparently joined it. I'd say soemthing abotu Don Murphy but he was born without one. Actually, I can say something- he's Kevin "unfunny asshole" Smith with more body fat. Hasbro didn't give the film to a competent director, just a cheap one. And neither Speilberg or ILM have done anything useful in years. Give WETA, or even Tom Savini a chance and we wouldn't be getting Bionicle bots. You're afraid to not like a Hasbro product. No wonder they don't have to go out of the way to please the "fans"- you'll accept it no matter what. But hey, you personally have been sucking off incompetent British bonehead Simon Furman and his shitty stories for years. There are no gods in Transformers. Unicron was built by a monkey, little man. Furman is dog shit.

And go figure this TF wiki is a joke full of misinformation, insults or outright lies- you're a mod here. You're never right. You're more of an incorrect pompous jerkoff than Defunct is. Right, ban me from editing, as if it would somehow matter, any info you don't agree with is pulled. You only have friends because people feel sorry for you. Me, I have no need. People are a commodity to be used and their wants only get in the way of what I'm out for. Use them and drop them.

Who am I? Go look who added a note about you on Encyclopedia Dramatica's Allspark page if you're not too lazy. As well as past AS, Kalidor, FIRRIB and Hooks entries(the hooks entry especially true). Oh, and just info on white people in general and that idiotic Nintendo Wii. I'm not making it that easy for you.
: Is it my birthday? This stuff ''feeds'' me. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: Duuuuude. Walky may be a dick, but I still ''like'' him for some inexplicable reason. You, on the other hand, are just one sore drama queen.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 17:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: This is some of the most funny stuff I've seen in a while. Comedy PLATINUM. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: Bwa ha ha ha ha. Priceless. I think someone needs to get off the internets for a few minutes. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 02:49, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: Wait, you mean I didn't get drunk and write this? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 05:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: I wish lame puns happened to me. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 20:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

== I thought it was vandalism ==

Just that I read the article and thought it was vandalism from the way it was written. So I accidently reverted it to the old one, which had more of something that seemed like vanderism. Then I realize I am not in wikipeida, but in Transformers wiki. I clicked on a link from Tformers.com and since the two sites look so damn similar, yeah......That explains the humor and why I had to make an account here. Sorry, but I am wishy washy at the moment since I have a term paper due soon and haven't gotten any sleep. Sorry. LOL--[[User:Doomzaber|Doomzaber]] 03:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

== Just kind of curious ==

Is there a limit to your knowledge of Transformers lore, or is it as infinite as the cosmos?

Because damn, do you know a lot.

==You are now an Admin==

Hello ItsWalky, I've made you and Suki Brits admins for this wiki. Thanks for offering to help out! Let me know if there is anything you need help with or can't do. Please see [[Wikicities:Help:Administrators' how-to guide]] for the basics, and let me know if you want more admins added - you two will be fine for now, but more may be needed in time. Thanks again -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] [[User talk:Sannse|(talk)]] 12:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

My liege *kneels*--[[User:OctopusPrime|Octopus Prime- King of the Road!]] 13:45, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Nice April Fools lol [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 14:49, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

...RUN, HE'S GONE MAD WITH POWER!

I know Bodycount was being antagonistic about his changes (not just on the Nemesis Prime entry), but I think blocking him for 2 weeks may have been excessive. We should try to settle editorial conflicts through compromise, like they do at Wikipedia, by rewriting the article to express both points of view and the reasoning behind those views. On the other hand, I
have no idea who he is, aside from a vague feeling that he's an Allsparker. You may be more familiar with his habits than I. Maybe he's likely to just be disruptive. But from what I have seen just here at this site, I think the block was premature. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 17:42, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

MAD WITH POWER!

I Knew BC at Tfans, he was a bit antaganistic to the rabid GeeWuners, but he's a great kitbasher. [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 05:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Bodycount's been banned repeatedly from the Allspark, and from several other boards, as well. He's a textbook troll, and we're better off without him. - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 05:05, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

== There's an issue with the "Recent Changes" page ==

Up at the top of the "recent changes" page where it says "below are the last X chaned in the last Y days as of DATE", for some reason the "DATE" says "$3". --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 14:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Pssy, Walky! You need a http:// on the botcon link on your blog. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:22, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

== The Agenda: Part 1 ==

:Hahaha, the guy whose fault it is I'm here was right behind me, messing with my first edits. How's that for irony? :)
:(I love Shortpacked.) - [[User:Doogles|Doogles]] 21:39, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

== Episode Template Comments ==

Hi ItsWalky. Thanks loads for your feedback. Sorry about the date thing. As for the loss of data between the two templates, reordering each of the groups for order of appearance shouldn't be too difficult, just means watching the episode carefully again (unfortunately, when I did the lists of characters for my own TF site, I didn't consider having them in order of appearance and thus alphabetized them right away). With regards to the difference between major and minor characters, I'm not sure I would quite know where to draw the line on who's what in every TF episode. To me, it would seem to depend if the character was regular, is he major or minor for the whole series, season, or just the episode, or if the character was a guest, I could see it likely being just the episode. Perhaps if I knew what guidline Teletraan-1 was using to determine Major/Minor status, I could think of a way to incorporate it into my template. Thanks again for your feedback. [[User:Telet093|Telet093]] 00:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello again. Just to let you know I've incorporated order of appearance into my test template if you wanted to check it out: [[User:Telet093/The Master Builder]]. [[User:Telet093|Telet093]] 23:50, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
==Cartoon==
Hi - sorry for the home page edit, I was trying to figure out if I added the word "cartoon" at the top of the page, would google figure out that your site is not about power control and liquid transformers :-) [http://wikia.com/wiki/User:Gil Gil]
:Google's not gonna figger it out, no, not until they distinguish between the two in their databases. Believe me, every TF site with google ads has the same problem. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:01, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

== A Question on Mini-Con Entries ==
As I'm hitting the "random page" button, I seem to come up with a Mini-Con page for this or that Mini-Con most of the time. Is there any reason every Mini-Con has its own page? Could they be consolidated on to their respective team pages? This may be a community issue, but I figured an editor the best place to start.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:43, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
: All the ones in Armada and Cybertron, at least, have their own bios and personalities, so that should be enough for a page. I think, in principle, every toyed character should have its own page, whether it be a Nebulan, Mini-Con, Deployer, or what have you. I tend to only use the "Related characters" subsection for fiction-only humans and the like. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

==Question Time Again==
Would it be possible to consolidate the pages such as [[quartex]] and [[cycle]] and whatever else is floating about into just a single "Cybertronian Units of Time" page of some sort? I had no idea a "quartex" existed until I randomly hit the [[Conductors]] page, for instance, but having them all in one place might be helpful, or possibly to rename the page into "Measurements of time" and split off [[Megamile]]?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 05:59, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
: I don't see why we can't have both. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:17, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

== Alot of images seem to be missing ==

many of the images have dissipered, such as the ones on [[neon]]. the image files themselves cive a "can't find on server" error. any idea WTF is up? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:42, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
:Probably just a temporary glitch. Wikia has a lot of them. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:46, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

==Sources==
How does one go about making reference to a patent and a catalog in a footnote on here?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 18:20, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
: Replacing -s with HTML arrow-thingies:
::-ref-[[More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]-/ref-
::And then create a "Footnotes" subheading at the bottom of the page, under which you type:
::-references/-
::That will automatically create a footnote there.
:See [[Ratchet (G1)]] for an example. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
==Lyrian==
Are you seeing the Lyrian.jpg image on her entry? Because I still am not. [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 22:12, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
OK, correction: I ''am'' seeing it when I use Internet Explorer, but not when I use Mozilla Firefox. [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 22:14, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
:I think you need to refresh the page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:21, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

==Sorry?==
Dude, the Seeker cateogry expressely said it was for G1 characters, and it wasn't until now that you decided that the Armada guys counted. Maximals was in Beast Era category, so I just made it more specific. Same for Vehicons. I'm sorry for pissing you off, but you're effectively blaming me for not being psychic. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 21:33, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

== Images fitting ==

I have a wide screen resolution (1280x800), and often times images that are on the same side will start to stack up if there aren't enough lines of text between them, kind of like this:

:img | _______
_______| | img

That's what was happening with the Airazor pics. Would it be better to add in come blank lines? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:18, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
: Well, in Airazor's case, we just had to fill in more summary. She was missing some key episodes, which filled in more text between the two images. On other pages, I dunno, it's a problem with the system, which we'll have to work out, 'cuz I think all images are gonna hafta be lefted if there's storylinks over there. Otherwise it's a mess. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:27, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

== COMPLETE GO-BOTS POWER?!!! ==

Walky, I '''''must''''' have this thing! For [http://chawks.brinkster.net/gb my Go-Bots site]!

PLEEEASE?

{wipes up drool}
: Steve-o's got first dibs, and he'll have it up on his TF coloring book archive whenever he gets the time. I've just now shared the harddrive folder with all the stuff in it so he has access to it, after all these years. I'm slow. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:26, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

::Saw the scans. That's awesome! It's really too bad it never got made. And y'know, I think a Go-Bots cover done in the "DW house style" could actually look super-cools. May I have permission to upload the scans to my site? (I always like to ask.) --[[User:Salt-Man Z|Salt-Man Z]] 20:10, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

==Bureaucrat==
Hi David. Since the original founder of this wiki has been inactive since June 2005, I've made you a bureaucrat here in case there are any trusted community members who need to be made into admins. See [[Wikia:Help:User access levels]] for help with this. I liked your recent [http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20070101.html comic] mentioning the wiki. Perhaps you should link to the wiki as well to encourage more transformers fans to join in. [[w:User:Angela|Angela]] <sup>[[User talk:Angela|talk]]</sup> 00:40, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

== Pretender Grimlock ==

In case you didn't know, Reprolabels makes Pretender Grimlock stickers. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:32, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
: Oooh. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:33, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

== About the delete of the IDW megatron Pic ==

The image illustrate megatron in his IDW form (as well as his alt mode), and it as been (at least) released on the official site. Isn't it all an image need to be. The text here, isn't the important part and is still readable anyway. Here just to prove it's not "stolen" or anything: http://www.idwpublishing.com/newreleases.shtml --[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 14:12, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
: I know it's not stolen. We can probably manage to wait one more day until the actual issue comes out and we can have something of useable size to scan. The image, at the size it was, was useless. (Also, we should avoid having full pages up, unless absolutely necessary. Otherwise it's not exactly fair use.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:16, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

== And the Lord said "DUDE". And it was groovy. ==

For the record, and I know this counts for almost nothing, Willis is the reason I'm here. Yeah, I love wikis, I love Transformers, and I (rather inexplicably) adore the Jumpstarters, but I wouldn't know about Teletraan 1 if not for the blog on Shortpacked!.

So, yeah. That's all I gotta say for now... rawkon, Walkyboy. \m/

:I hate you. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 03:05, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

::What the slag is Shortpacked, and who in the Pit is this Willis? --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 17:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
:::You aren't serious, are you? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 22:13, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

== Pie ==
What exactly is the great importance of Pie? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 21:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
:As the ratio of the circumfrence to the radius of a sphere, it underpins the structure of our universe.
:Of course, some people argue that because no perfect circle exists in out quasi-raster universe, pi is actually nothing that a unique mathematical phenomena, of no consequence ot the real world.
:(These people are communists.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

== disambuig question ==

When a character shares a name with an episode, do both pages get a series tag, or just the episode? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:41, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Are we talking about Chase? He's the only one that wouldn't get a (G1) otherwise, that I can think of... I would tentatively say that having the TF be [[Chase]] and the episode be [[Chase (Armada episode)]] would be fine. Of course, we might need a disambig page to encompass [[Chip Chase]], I dunno. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

== CSS change ==

Hey Walky, I'm requesting a change to the sitewide CSS that you can see at [[MediaWiki_talk:Monobook.css]]

It's Wikipedia's pretty able classes. Wikia (buizarely) comes with ''no'' table classes. We dont' use tables much here, but should we want to, we'd want them to look like this. (And this is the class all the wikipedia-how-to-create-a-table tutorials tell you to use.) The code is unaltered from Wikipedia, so it won't conflict with anything.

Appreciate it if you could port it over for me.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
: Where do I put it? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:07, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
::Oh, sorry, I forgot you hadn't done this before.
::Please append the requested change from the CSS discussion area [[MediaWiki_talk:Monobook.css]] to the end of the actual CSS file [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]], which you can edit but I cannot.
::The lack of these table styles is moderately more pressing than it was when I originally requested them, since we now have an article that actually uses tables -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:16, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

== online update ==

When you talk about online updates, maybe a direct link should be required (if it's official and everyhing and stuf...).

:... for what? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe I have I have missunderstood, but when he talk about "online update", he talk about material that have been put on official sites or something, and therefore, for completition sake, a link to it would be appropriate. If I have get it wrong, or if those sites require payment to be accessible, then forget what I say...
:::It is indeed pay content for the Fan Club. A direct link would not work. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Alright.

== Scale question ==
Hi there, this is PacifistPrime, the originator of the new [[Scale]] article. Thanks very much for your contributions. Just one question though; you've changed some of the estimated "real world" heights for characters like Prime and Bumblebee, stating that they "have been calculated". I don't mean to disagree with you ''per se'' (although I must admit your figures do instinctively strike me as unlikely, but that's just my guestimate), but I was wondering if you could please source those figures. Not so much in the article itself (believe me, I'm very sick of the bluenoses over at Wikipedia always being on peoples' case about that), but rather just for my own personal interest. I've actually wanted for some time now to set up a project that would use the toys and specs for the real vehicles to calculate how big most of the pre-Movie G1s would be. But if someone has already done this, I'd love to know their results, and I'd be particularly interested in their method. Can you give me some directions? Please respond in my own talk page, if you don't mind. Hope to hear from you, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/6db411e03e75a342?dmode=source LV once figured it out using real vehicle lengths and stuff.]
:Also, a trend in the article seems to be overunderestimating the size of the Transformers in the cartoon, for example, saying that Optimus Prime would "only" be 20 feet tall, versus the giant size you believe he is. We've got lots of model sheets available to us that show that Optimus Prime was drawn to be 15-ish feet, or 3 Spikes tall. Now, the comic tended to draw the Transformers much, much larger than that, but in the cartoon, they were kinda dinky, though that's of course not incredibly consistent. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

== ''The Enemy Within Part 2'' ==

I'm wanting to start writing an article for ''The Enemy Within'', but there is one slight problem. My scans of the issue (saved from Seibertron and TCA before the comic scans were taken down) are missing pages 9 and 10 (the last two color pages) from part 2, and from what I've been able to dig up from the Wayback Machine, the scans used on the various sites never had those two pages (or a few from ''The Man Of Iron'' UK printing, and page 8 from UK #6). I'm not sure if this is kosher, but any idea where I might be able to "acquire" those two pages? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 19:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
: Gimme an email address. I may have them. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:48, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
::fortressmaximus05 (at) verizon.net --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:06, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

== Blog not wiki ==
Hey man, that's totally fair enough; realise I was on a bit of a rave there about Masterpiece Megs. Still, you didn't have to be impolite about it. Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]]. P.S. I wouldn't be caught dead writing a blog. Got much better things to do with my time. Like edit this wiki. ;-)
:Me again. I seem to stuff up on your watch pretty regularly, huh? Sorry about the E.J.Su cover thing; I honestly thought that WAS him for some reason. So much so, in fact, that I was wondering myself why the style seemed a little inconsistent with his other work...! Do you know who ''did'' do it? I expect was it the same dude who did the "Uncle Prime" recruitment poster. Later, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:: I had already immediately edited the file to note the name of the artist. It's right there, man. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== one more Dinobot question ==

I'm wanting to try the part swap you did with your BWX Dinobots, but have one problem. Is there a way to remove the upper half of the molds upper arms without messing up the pegs and holes? Years ago, I removed those parts from my FoxKids Dinobot, but after re-assembling him, the arms would often pop off while rotating the shoulder swivel. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:09, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

The bicep piece, you mean? I haven't had any trouble with it. I just yanked it out of its socket, unscrewed it from the elbow, swapped, and voila. Worked same as before. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:32, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

== Just Sayin' Hi ==

Ok, this is embarassing.

I've been on the TFWiki a while now, and on a lot of discussion pages I've posted on, you're the first or second person to answer a question or comment on my post.

I also read Shortpacked and didn't know you were... well, you.

It was seemingly at random I clicked on your link to see your page and, lo and behold, you're the reason for so much joy and pain, the grand well of Transformers knowledge, the de facto LEGENDARY user who knows how many punctuation marks are in the title of seemingly random comics... from EUROPE.

I simply want to say that it's an honor for me to be able to collaborate with you on this project. Transformers has always been a big part of my childhood, and now my adulthood. I'm starting up the UniCronicles (see my page for more details) and yours, along with several other webcomics I read, have inspired me. I thank you for Shortpacked, your contribution to Teletraan I, and, of course, for making fun of that ditzy purple skank. I mean, am I the only one who noticed she was like 3 million years the senior of most of the ''Cybertron'' cast? Granny's got her freak on.

Anyway, keep making teh funniez. I'll keep reading them. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:55, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

: Allow me to translate - SLURRRRRRP SLURP SLURP SLURP SLURRRRRRRRRRP mmm SLURRP SLURP SLURP please not in my hair SLURP SLURP SLURP [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 18:42, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
::You know, normally I try to keep things clean, organized, and polite, especially when it comes to something like this. But just this once, I'm going to say it. Fuck all y'all. I don't give a flying rat's ass about what you think about me, so go fornicate yourself with a barbed iron rod. Just because I admire one man's work doesn't mean I'm some mindless suck up, and you would let Aaron Archer assfuck you (no lube). [[User:Dracokanji|Dracokanji]] 12:57, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::: It's okay. Nobody ever listens to Hooper. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:01, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

::::Oh well. So then. Thoughts on Alternators Ravage (Jaguar XK-9)? [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:11, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

::Allow me to translate - SOMEONE PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEE PLEASE HEY LOOK WACKY HOOP LOOK LOOK HEY LOOK MEEE SO LONELY --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:46, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

:::If somebody kills his lonely, can we get a necromancer?--[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:07, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

:And Hoop's comment was ''so'' unfair. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:49, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

== Transformers Chess Set ==

Do you know anything about the upcoming Tranformers Chess set? All I know is that Autobots are gold, and Decepticons are silver. And what should we do about an article? Just call it "Chess" or "Transformers Chess"? Plus, can anyone confirm whether or not Bumblebee is the pawn for the Autobot side? [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 02:57, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
: Well, there's going to be two sets, one that's really expensive and in color and featuring show-accurate G1 dudes -- and the one you speak of, which is movie-related. Do we know what they say on the box, yet? I suppose we could have one article at [[Chess set]] or something that talks about all kinds of TF chess sets. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:38, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
:: Unless there's something that really makes the sets remarkable or stand out as deserving individual mention, I move for one article about all Transformers versions of Chess, with a note about [[fulstasis]]. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:31, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
::I think just [[Chess]] is a better title than [[Chess set]]. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:45, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
:::I suppose a single page would be in order. Even if they are remarkable and awesome and whatever, there's still little to be said, other than a list of who is what piece and where/when it's available. I have to agree with calling it [[Chess]], thought. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 07:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

1 page.--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 19:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

P.S. in the movie set, pawns are autobot symbols. BB might be in the G1 set.--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 19:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

== Please remove (or at least justify) block ==
Um,
Excuse me, but... what the heck? (Block ID #49)

Why on earth have you blocked me? VANDALISM? Are you kidding?!?

Is this about the two snarky little comments spilled over from the Movie-G1-IDW categorisation micro-debate? i.e., the ones that were already deleated from the Movie pages well over a week ago and are thus no longer an issue at all? Have you seriously blocked me over that? Good lord...

Okay, maybe those TWO very SMALL comments were SLIGHTLY out of order, but to call it
vandalism...! This isn't Wikipedia, mate. If you wanna start policing sarcastic
comments and POV material then you've got a loooong task ahead of you on this
site, don't you think? Blocking me for those comments hardly seems rational.

That you wanted to delete them? Fine. But to BLOCK me for it? C'mon; get real.

I am a comparatively new user, but one in good standing who has contributed several articles and is polite in all discussions at every turn, far more so than some other users here that I've observed. I've noticed that on more than one occasion you have had somewhat grumpy reactions to things I have to say, so I'm more than a little suspicious that this block isn't some kind of vindictive action on your part, as you seemingly have some kind of problem with me, although I can't imagine on what basis.

This block is clearly absurd, and not at all in the spirit of fun and good
humour I've come to love about this site. I don't see how you can reasonably justify this action, and I am also complaining about this to your fellow adminstrator.

Yours indignantly, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
: For your information, I banned you right BEFORE I deleted your vandalism. It wasn't a week-later thing, no. And, yes, if you're going to end a long Talk Page discussion in which you were overwhelmingly outvoted by editing '''the articles themselves''' with retaliatory comments, then, yes, that's vandalism. Certainly, if that's going to be the nature of your contributions here, then you don't belong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

::With all due respect this is a massive overraction. I'm prepared to apologise to anyone you want me to, but you seem to be attributing all kinds of deviant, troublemaking behaviour to me that is simply NOT truthfully accurate. Don't take my word for it: please look at my history of contribution and discussion with other users. I've always been scrupulously polite and have never gotten into an edit war with anyone.

::So, Okay, yes, if you really want me to say it: I DID A BAD THING. I'm sorry. Don't you guys have some kind of strike system? To permanently ban me over this small piece of sarcasm really seems excessive, don't you think?

::[[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:::You're not permanently banned! Steve-o says it was for three months, but I don't think I would have done it for that long on purpose. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:00, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Stereo is annoying. Can we pick a talk page and stick with it? (I nominate this one.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::Regardless, I've unblocked you for the three months and reblocked you for an additional week starting today, as I intended to block for two weeks. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:03, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, dude. You seem to be a step ahead of me. I'm not trying to foul you up. Please feel free to delete my erroneous edits. I was trying to say that G2 Breakdown (the AM) was unofficial. Just hadn't gotten to it yet!--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 03:22, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== DS Pics ==
Question for you since you've got the Autobots DS card- Does it have the USS Seaspray docked in Tranquility's harbor in the Autobots version?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 03:32, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
: Yeah! Heh. I didn't notice that, but I see the name now. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:45, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:: Probably old news, but there's an available mode meant as a Hoist homage too. -[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 16:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

==Bobby Bolivia Trivia==
Wow, you're right. I totally misinterpreted that. To be fair (shift blame) the same bit of trivia on Bumblebee's page wasn't as clear at the time it was written. So..um.. yeah. But you know, now that it's evident that they kinda paid exactly what it was worth, I fail to see how that bit of trivia is even relevant to the article now.
It should probably just go altogether. [[User:Atomic spaceman|Atomic spaceman]] 14:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

==Fandom page==
Listen, hate to bother you, but there is ''massive'' edit war going on at [[Fandom]]. Could you please just semi-protect (or totally protect) the page while people try to figue out what to do? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 19:41, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

==BANNED==

What the hell did I do to warrant a ban, exactly? As far as I'm aware, I don't even think I broke any rules, and if I did, an official warning would be appropriate. I received no such warning. I was not here for trolling and you know that - you use that bullshit excuse to get people to ignore arguments you can't handle. But you, personally, who made this decision, know I'm not a troll.

This is fucking low. I had little enough respect for you down to your ranting against the fanbase, Willis, but this is a whole new level of buggery. If you're going to use your comic to rant against and discredit people you don't like, the least you can do is suck it up when people rant at you back, and not act like a control-freak child.

I really don't think you're aware of your own actions anymore.
*Do the words [[Wikipedia:WP:NPA|no personal attacks]] mean anything to you? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:: Do the words "warning before ban" mean anything to you? Rulemongering doesn't justify a decision anyway, since Walky is one of the people making the rules. There were plenty of personal attacks leveled at me, but I did not report them officially.

::I really find it hard to believe that you think it's completely on a rational level of discourse to claim that the comic strip I draw is about child pornography. If I'm not mistaken about your identity, you've been banned from almost every single Transformers web board you've had an acquaintance with, and I'm only doing this place a favor by getting rid of you. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

::: That's not an excuse. I will openly admit I HAVE been banned from several forums, but only because I repeatedly opposed the staff on each and every one of them; and with good cause, they all have roughly the same problem. People bully others either into liking the movie or to agree with the kind of views you promote - and since nobody can directly attack or discredit anyone, these people(and you are) are left to their methods.
::: For your current decision to be validated, the admins of those boards, boards which are influenced in turn by your anti-fan attitude, would have to be near 100% correct in their decisions, and those decisions would have to occur within a context that would map exactly onto here. Any rational moderator does not base their decisions so much off performance on other boards, especially when it's not even a messageboard they're operating. Two different media. I have openly said I despise all active Transformers boards for their level of authoritarianism, yet level of tolerance towards the pushing of certain viewpoints.

::: Not to mention that you're still operating under the fallacy of Appeal to Majority - that alone means I shouldn't really even have to counter you.

::: And don't even use the "CHILD PORNOGRAPHY" thing as an excuse. Again, any rational moderator would warn several times before a ban, I personally reversed that edit even though it was obviously intended to be a joke as anyone reading this knows what pile'o'bile already is. You have no justification for what you did, but your ego is too big to realise you can actually do wrong with your power. You'll never admit it, but I wouldn't be surprised if some part of you is pissed that I defeated some of your ramblings, whether they were directly written by you or encouraged by you, it's still the kind of guff you normally blew, and I managed to defeat it. You, and the mods of the big sites will always have your ban buttons - but you will NEVER be able to justify your actions to me. That's how I know that I'm in the right, at least in situations like this - solidly backed justification is almost always absent.
:::: Personal attacks + deleting comments in response to you = banno --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:::: P.S. Sign your posts. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

::::: I have never intentionally deleted comments in response to me. I just moved one recently as it was in the middle of a paragraph of text. Not to mention that happened after you banned my original IP. Personal attacks alone are not grounds enough for a ban, especially when you're doing an awful, awful lot to be mercilessly torn into.
Need I point out that once again, you are unable to defend yourself properly? When does the "You're insane?" come? Ganging up of all your little friends since a majority always means you're right?
Do you even realise what a fascist shithead you sound like? Just because you're an admin of a place doesn't give you a free pass to be a dick with it. There's a difference between what you can do and what you should do that you don't seem to have learned yet.

[[User:67.159.44.88]]

: YOU BAN PEOPLE BECAUSE ****YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE

TRUTH****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111twelve FUCKING FASCIST PIGCOP NAZI WIKIPEDO '''ASSHOLE''' [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:32, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

:: My gosh, now that I have seen someone mock the notion, it MUST be untrue. Please, where can I learn these 1337 debating skills?

:::Dude, I've been banned from twice as many forums as you, guaranfuckingteed, but they still let me post here because I'm not as goddamn retarded as you are. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:34, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

:::: And can you demonstrate exactly how I'm more retarded than you? Or are you just, Walky style, dropping weighted terms to discredit someone's point of view without even trying?

:::::1. Hoop doesn't delete other people's comments on talk pages. 2. He actually signs his posts, which you've been asked to do many times, but haven't caught on. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:40, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

:::::: I didn't delete anything. If I did, it was an accident because someone posted right in the middle of text it wasn't meant to be in the middle of. Not signing my posts doesn't make me retarded since it's blatant when I'm saying something. --[[User:67.159.44.88]]

Actually - come to think of it, you make fun of the idea that anyone running a site can be Nazi, yet you still mention you got banned from many forums. Does that perhaps mean that you genuinely got banned for being an asshole and not opposing the staff/local clique like I did?

:''any rational moderator would warn several times before a ban''
:Not true, some things are auto-ban. I don't think you ''did'' any of them, but I'm just saying.
:Dude- you got an expedited ban because you showed no signs of contrition, argued every point, used personal insults, refused to sign your posts even when '''repeatedly asked to''' (I had to go back into history and dig out which incoherent chunks of text where yours, because the posts weren't hierarchied properly so the debate was really hard to follow. This is why signin posts is important dumbfuck.)
:And ultimately you got banned because you were making a major nuisance of yourself in ''without'' any correlating '''contribution''' to justify keeping you around. You're a negative. You edited 3 articles- Fandom, Shortpacking and Ruined Forever- and ''all' of those edits got reverted because they either flames or crappy jokes that make the articles ''worse''. Even if I were to (generously) believe you didn't intend to start a fight, you picked the 3 flamebaitiest articles you could find and masturbated across them. ''Allah forfend'' you should write an ''episode summary'' or something.
:Unrelated- Walky can Talk:Fandom be semi-protected instead of full? Loserbot isn't registered. -[[User:Derik|Derik]]01:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

==Entertainment footer==

Hi David -- I'm working on a project for Wikia to help link the TV wikis together, and encourage people to see this as one big site, rather than a lot of little wikis. I'd like to post this footer at the bottom of the main page.{{w:youngtv}}

The gaming wikis have started a similar project, and they've seen a lot more cross-traffic. Would it be okay to post this at the bottom of the main page here? You could also feel free to edit it, to fit in better with this community. -- [[User:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue">Danny</font>]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 01:46, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

:Hi -- I haven't heard from you about this, so I guess it's okay? I'll add it... Please let me know if there's a problem. Thanks! -- [[User:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue">Danny</font>]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 14:29, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
==Megatron==
Sorry, accidentally reverted Megatron (G1) - have fixed 0_o apologies for that![[User:Bento180|Bento180]] 12:16, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
:The heck did you do, man? It's broken, and I can't successfully reupload it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:00, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
::I think something's screwy with the image server. I've tried resizing some of the embedded images to mess with layout on some articles, and I'm getting broken images.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 14:17, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

== image issues ==

re you able to see the images? They aren't loading for me. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:10, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for helping out with the Robot Heroes page. I'm still new to the whole Wiki thing. :) --[[User:DarkPrime|DarkPrime]]

== "Stolen Prototypes" ==

I was under the impression that we just weren't allowed to use the photos of stolen prototypes. Certainly we can say that they're planned figures, right?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 18:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
: We don't have any information on the wiki from unannounced future toy releases. It's always been that way. (Also, note the header says "ANNOUNCED but uncategorized yadda yadda." Those four were shown at BotCon. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Ah, gotcha. Thanks.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 19:04, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Category: Things that don't exist ==

psst... [[Transformers Wiki:Title blacklist]] --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:I've been trying to tell people that since Angela made it! I've even laid out the instructions on the talk page! -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 17:53, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe he ''likes'' having to repeatedly delete it. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Delete it then.

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User talk:FFN

2007-11-23T09:39:46Z

64.58.144.10: /* Suggestions */

==Captions==
Not to try and start a fight or anything, but who made you the arbiter of what makes a "good" caption or not? If you don't have a better caption to put there, then do you really need to edit it out? If you have something better, go ahead and edit it in, but there's was it really necassary to remove all of my changes?

I mean, I though the "Amazing what 23 years will do to ones physique" one was pretty clever, myself.--[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 09:49, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
: Because I say so and I am a jerk! *puts on a crown and purple cloak of royalty*. Seriously, that one you quoted was okay, I accidently pruned that one, but I wasn't hot on some of the others. In my opinion, captions should be thought about, and we shouldn't just caption a pic for the sake of having a caption or doing a joke. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:27, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

==Movie toy information==
We should not put information about leaked/stolen/whatever test shots on the wiki. It's been an unspoken rule since, well, forever, but I guess we need to put it in writing somewhere. It's just not cool. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:08, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
: Actually, we have that "Coming Soon" tag made SPECIFICALLY for this (well, and Fan Club stuff). --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

:: What I find amusing is that I merely modified (slightly) the Energon Arcee toy description. Eh. *Shrugs shoulders* Whatever. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:03, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
::: You also wrote the entire toy write-up for Blackout's Voyager toy and also recently wrote a description of Optimus Prime's 3" titanium figurine. You seem to be writing the bulk of the movie toy writeups. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:34, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Yep, I wrote/expanded half or more of the toy articles on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:51, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
::::: That's cool, and more than appreciated, but in the future, let's wait until we have more than test shots to do so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:53, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::: Aren't you absolutely '''amazed''' at how I was able to deduce the transformation sequence and gimmick of toys I've never seen in person? My engineering schooling did pay off! :-O --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:56, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

You're kind of missing the point. It's the OFFICIALNESS of the information and the slippery slope of putting in stuff that's not officially announced. We don't want this wiki to become yet another goddamn Internet Rumor Dumping Ground. See: [[Help:Coming_soon]] --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:54, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

:No, I'm not missing the point. I'm just dancing around it like the salsa. Ole! --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

==Profile pics==
I don't think we're adhering to "fair use" if every single page on the wiki uses art scanned from the DW MTMTE books. Try to reel it in some! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
: Nah, I won't be doing that. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:: But you are doing it! It's why I brought it up. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
::You ''might'' wanna clarify exactly ''what'' it is you won't be doing. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:::It was a joke, as in "Nah, I won't be doing what you just asked me to do." --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:43, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
::::Just a thought - what is the limit on the usage of pictures ultimately owned by Hasbro? Dreamwave as a company no longer exists. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::Well, IDW plans to publish the MTMTE books, so I think we have to also take that into consideration. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 07:47, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
::::::Oh well, at least I gave pics to articles that didn't originally have pics/wrong models by Dery/crappy G1 box art. I'll stop for... awhile *mysterious* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I like G1 boxart. Especially Omega Supreme's. -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

==Underscores==
You don't need to put underscores in links. The format is just <nowiki>[[something (whatever)|something]]</nowiki>, not <nowiki>[[something_(whatever)|something]]</nowiki>. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 17:39, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Alright thanks, though I might forget and put them anyway, occasionally. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:41, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

== Miranda II ==

And there I thought someone would complain about bashing, or something. :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
: I'm pretty sure Energon is fair game. You know, like NAMbLA. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
:: Yeah, when you ruin [[Demolishor|a perfectly good, interesting character]] by resurrecting him as a gorilla-like dump truck who serves only as slapstick comic relief (and not even good comic relief), you deserve everything you get, stupid Takara Marketing and WE'VE! *shakes fist of fanboy fury* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
::: Man. Demolishor's article needs, like, made not crap. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
:::: Feel free to do so. I get too fanboyish for this wiki whenever I write about stuff I like (like Armada Starscream). --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

==Formatting==
It's not all that messy-looking if the main image juts into fiction section some of the time. I find it's a case-by-case scenario. [[Miranda II]] looked fine with the jut, but not so much to make it worth editing it back the other way. It's not a hard and fast rule, is what I guess I'm saying. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
: The problem is by having the main picture jut into the main text body, you have the text bunched up to one side, and it pushes the edit link into the middle of the screen. Frankly that looks chaotic.
::Not really. Not on that article, no. It just looked like text wrapped around an image. To me, it looked much cleaner the other way. See how subjective this is? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

:The way I see it, we should use it when the article has relatively few sub-sections (which leads to a smaller Contents menu), or when the main picture is relatively long (like a profile picture of a character). Or when using it doesn't create a huge gap between the introductory text/main pic, the contents menu and the main body of text in the article. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:31, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
::Can't you just... make the image smaller if this is such a problem? I find blank white space to be incredibly hideous, moreso than a misplaced edit link. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 17:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Depends on the picture itself. Some images deserve to be big, because they look great or because the focus would be hard to see. Misplaced links and pics into text reminds me of late 90s fanpages. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

== All those toypics you've uploaded ==

Toypics don't get a hastak tag unless they are offical images (say stock photos). Photos of objects (except scans or photos containing only printed material) are copyright of whoever took the picture. Hasbro holds just as much right to the copyright for a unoffical toypic as say, Sony owns the rights for a picture of my computer. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 03:06, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

:The problem is some of those toy pics are scans out of some official publication, or some official picture that the fansite edited together. So I give copyright to Hasbro, but credit to the site, especially if I cannot find the original official pictures. Sometimes I forget to use fairuse on specifically fan-shot photographs. If it bothers you that much, feel free fix all the picture pages with fairuse.--[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:06, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

== anonymous and minor edits ==

Just do you know, anonymous editors don't have a minor edit option. Dunno why, though.
:Odd - maybe its to spur us into suggesting them to register? :P --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

== Safeword debate ==
Hi there, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]] here. I appreciate that you think the link to the definition of "safeword" is a little much (although, frankly, I've seen some pretty risque stuff on this wiki anyway), and although I disagree I'm happy for the link to be removed. However, I think it is definitely an overreaction to change the caption; after all I added that specific image solely for the purpose of that joke. Without the link young kids won't get it and won't be "harmed", and those who do get it are alread in the know. However, rather than just unilaterally reverting it (sans link), I thought I'd give you the opportunity to discuss the matter further if you wish. If I don't hear from you back on my talk page in a few days, then I'll change it back.
Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]]
:: Yeah, you're probably right about that; if it goes over their heads, let it. I'll change it back without the link. Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:::FFN, you mentioned that you changed the caption back to the clean joke because nobody refuted your point... The thing is, I haven't been able to find where you made your argument for its change in the first place. Not on Starscream's talk page, and not here... How can we refute your point if no one knows where it is? That being said, I personally agree with Pacifist Prime. It's no more offensive or risque than some of the other stuff on here (i.e. [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] or anything relating to [[Kiss Players]]), and without the link it's no longer harmful in the slightest. Besides, the new caption is pretty lame and practically screams, "I couldn't think of anything better than this." - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 06:55, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
::::I was referring to my discussion with Walky over MP Starscream's incorrect F-15E colours, and I sorta reverted Walky's edit back to the original with modifications (with hooperx's Titanium 3" caption) to my original MP Starscream paragraph, with added notes about Starscream's other glaring inaccuracies. That's what I meant by 'nobody refuted my point'.
:::: At no point did I change the safeword caption, given that Pacifist Prime and I already resolved that, like, weeks ago, and I advised that to make the joke work, he didn't need to link the meaning for people, because '''A.''' The link to the meaning is abit inappropriate given our wiki's topic, and '''B.''' Its hitting people over the head with the joke. If the joke flies over people's heads, let it.
::::If you had checked the article history, or the Recent changes page, you'll see an anonymous user made the change to the caption. In any case, it wasn't me. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:57, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Ah, see, I saw your comment in the history that said something about reverting to a previous caption because no one refuted your point, and assumed this was what you were referring to. My apologies. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 20:18, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::: No worries. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:52, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

== MP Megs importation to Australia. ==
Well, what can I say? I got mine (two of them, in fact: one for my buddy) from HobbyLinkJapan (scum) with no troubles. Customs didn't even open it. Maybe I was just lucky, but I suspect that those toyshops only got that response from the fuzz because they asked in the first place. In fact, they may very well have tipped them off and made it harder for everyone else to import them now. Who knows? Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
: Um, hi. This is actually somewhat old news, as I haven't checked in for a week or so, but I respectfully suggest that you're overracting just a whisker. I was unaware that there had been further developments for other Australian fans importing the MP-05; as I've stated elsewhere I don't spend any time on discussion boards so I wouldn't know about any of that. If my original few lines on the subject (admittedly based solely on my personal experience of problem-free importation) is no longer representative of the majority, then I have no objection whatsoever to the text being revised.
: However, I think that your edit is a bit of an overlong rave and (at the risk of sounding more Seppocentric than is my wont) I have to say that I don't think Australia's situation really requires as much text as that concerning the States'. Furthermore, I think that your rebuttal "Eat '''that''', Australia" is particularly uneccessary. First of all it sounds like a rather mean-spirited bit of one-upmanship over a comment which, although I'll conceed ''was'' smug, was only meant in the kind of good humour that this site broadly embraces (such as its pervasive mockery of Japanese fiction). Your comment sounds quite barbed by comparison, in my opinion. But regardless of any issues of opinion it frankly doesn't make sense, because it is referring to a previous edit which no longer exists in the current text, so to any newcomer reading it the comment has no context. For this reason most of all I have taken it upon myself to remove that one line, but I have left your preceding paragraph untouched. However I urge you to reconsider its neccessity and respectfully suggest that you cut it down considerably.
: All the best, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].

:: If you are so offended by the fact I made fun of Australia (and I suspect its abit of misplaced patriotism right after ANZAC day), then you shouldn't make fun of America, especially given our toy gun laws are even harsher. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

:::Err... okay. I respectfully suggest that you're missing the point: I'm not offended, nor am I particularly patriotic. In fact, I'm a dual Austalian/American citizen, so your comments regarding my national identity are actually fairly irrelevant. And uncalled for. Don't you think personal remarks on this site are a bit untoward?
:::I just think that your edit gives the impression of being a bit personal, as though you were miffed about my original text, rather than containing material of particular relevance to other readers/users, especially your sardonic rebuttal. Again, my original crack was intended in good humour, so it seems that it is you who are the one getting offended. Perhaps this is not the case, and if so I apologise.
:::But regardless of that I still maintain that the content makes little sense. Please re-read my previous post for my reasons for this.
::: Ta, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:::: Sorry mate. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::: It's okay, I just don't understand what it is about my edits that seem to routinely rub you up the wrong way. I'm just trying to get into the spirit of the site and its refreshingly relaxed attitude compared to other uptight wikis like Wookieepedia. You seem to know a fair bit about Australia, and I'm certainly not out to offend anyone, but you seem to take exception to a fair bit of what I have to say. I don't really understand. [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:::::: Dr. Fang says its because I'm high-strung. And I'm kind of an asshole. Sorry about that, chap. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:19, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::: Okay then, I guess. So, will you please consider trimming the Australian stuff on the MP-05? I just honestly doubt other people need to know so much about gun laws. Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].

== Admin ==
*Excuse me I'm looking for a admin here, do you know where I can find one?[[User:Troyb|Troyb]]<sup>[[User talk:Troyb|(CIS ShadowFeed)]] [[Special:Contributions/User:Troyb|contribs]]</sup>[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 16:09, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

: Hi, unfortunately, I believe they're all at [[BotCon]] right now. Specifically they probably just left the Hasbro product panel. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:12, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

*Grr because I'm here from the new Transfanon wiki, were knida your sister wiki or whatever and I'm a buericrate there so I need someone to tell others about it.[[User:Troyb|Troyb]]<sup>[[User talk:Troyb|(CIS ShadowFeed)]] [[Special:Contributions/User:Troyb|contribs]]</sup>[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 18:31, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

::From the community portal - The admins for this Wiki are [[User:ItsWalky]] and [[User:Suki Brits]]. Just leave them a message and they'll get back sooner or later. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:57, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

==Screencaps==

Where'd you download the movie? You seem to have uploaded some pretty high quality images of the movie that haven't appeared in any of the trailers

:They're all from the trailers and tv spots (highres, low res ect). For instance, the pic of Figueroa reacting to Sgt. Donnelly is from 'Vibration', released around May 22nd. Prime transforming in Mission City and the pics of Bumblebee standing around are from 'Freakout' (June 15). Prime jumping on/towards Megatron, Ironhide transforming and shooting his cannons in a somersault are from the Superherohype exclusive trailer that was also played during an NBA playoff or something on June 24. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

==Animated toy pictures==

Well, the official pictures of the toy wont come out for a LOOOOONG time, so untill then, I'm uploading some bad, blurry ones, because they STILL better than nothing. Tried to give a long description of Lockdown, but somebody just deleted it easly. Also, almost all pictures at the animated ones are blurry and in weird angles, so not mines are the first. And I made them with Paint, not Powerpoint.

:That still doesn't mean we just dump any pics onto this wiki. The series and the toyline won't be out for a long time, so no real reason to have a bunch of pictures now, given there is relatively little information about the series itself.

:Powerpoint as in, Hasbro's powerpoint presentation at SDCC. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

:: Actually, we know pretty mutch about the series and the toys, but you guys don't let any info of it to be putten on, because they're "leaked". So that's it. --[[User:Hepathos|Hepathos]] 21:36, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

:::Any information that isn't official released about a project that is coming soon does not belong here because this wiki (usually) follows what is official, not what is unconfirmed. If you want rumour-mongering, go to the wikipedia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

==Stubs==
Why do you move the stub tags to the top of pages? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:42, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:I feel that Articles that need some filling out should say 'HEY! This article really needs work!' in an obvious manner. Its one of the things other wikis do that I think we should emulate, if only to get people (either registered or unregistered) to finish off these articles. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
::If what needed filling out was easy and simple to do, maybe, but filling some stubs would take weeks of solid work, so having a giant skyscraper of tags at the top of several articles seems excessively frustrating. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I forgot most of you guys run at lower resolution (judging by screencaps), so I misjudged how bad the messageboxes would be. Sorry man. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:16, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

==Bonecrusher quote==
Since Bonecrusher doesn't speak in the film, could you put an attribution for the quote you added to the top of his page? I'm sure I'm not the only one who will wonder where he said it. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 17:42, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
: Sorry, I'm writing up his Target comic #2 appearance now for that, but it would help if you can respond to the talk page question on the Transformers (2007) page regarding what we should refer to the comics as, so I can actually reference it in the quote, among other things. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
::Bonecrusher has only 2 lines in 'Ghosts,' and this is neither. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:03, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, like I said, its from the new Target-exclusive comic on their robovision site. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:11, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

== Suggestions ==

Why don't I suggest on creating a page about [[Popular Cybertronian vehicle alternate modes]]? If the Earth and Beast gets a popular vehicle alternate modes page so does Cybertron.([[User:Soldier 79|Soldier 79]] 10:35, 20 October 2007 (UTC))
:Because with Earth vehicles there are identifiable models and designs that are recognisable. With Cybertronian vehicles they are 'generic futuristic car/truck/plane/spaceship'. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:38, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
More reasons why to create it. You are an awesome person, Megatron often turns into mostly a Cybertronian vehicle, Earth Vehicle modes page has a rule like 3 toy models and finally it is better that way. Plus Transformers Animated will have one heck of alot of Autobots and Decepticons that turn into Cybertronian vehicles.([[User:Soldier 79|Soldier 79]] 10:43, 20 October 2007 (UTC))
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Talk:Brawl (Movie)

2007-11-23T09:07:44Z

64.58.144.10: /* Devastator */

==Not Megatron comment==

what inspired that? [[USER:GWolf]]
:Many people on various boards who can't get over the fact that movie Megs is neither a gun nor a tank. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

::More specifically, the ones who are ''so'' incapable of getting over it that they form elaborate conspiracy theories about how Megatron will get a tank altmode during the movie and Hasbro decided to call the corresponding toy "Brawl" to keep it a surprise. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 03:29, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Brawl could have easily been named Overkill, if you ask me. His toy has an amount of weapons that border on goofy: His spring loaded cannon on his right arm, the fact that it can swivel 180 to reveal a more accurate to his design Gatling Gun molding, his behind the back secondary guns, his shoulder mounted missile launchers, his twin claw, AND the anti-personal cannon molded onto the twin claw's base. Sheeeeeesh. --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 19:30, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

==Devastator==

apparently, when they screened the movie in australia, little thing became apparent. His name's Devestator?

Opened, or screened? Because if it was a pre-screening, it may have been a rough cut of the movie-- several decepticons' names were changes later in production, and Devastator was an early name for Brawl.

You can count on this being corrected for the actual film release. Roberto Orci has [http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showpost.php?p=368555&postcount=4479 commented on it.] --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 04:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

They called it both a special screening event and a premiere. We rock. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:15, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey I just saw the movie on June 29th in a sneak preview in columbus ohio and they called him Devastator. And it seemed like scenes were missing from the movie

:I'm a little confused as to why "Devastator" isn't noted as a mistaken when the only place it appears is a single subtitle line in the actual movie whilst "Brawl" appears on... everything else ever. I mean, a Michael Bay forced mistake is still a mistake.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 03:52, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

::"Forced mistake"? If he intended to call the tank Devastator and he called it Devastator, I'm not seeing the mistake. It's clearly different from every other appearance, but unless we're going to make a big deal about how purple cartoon Rumble is a mistake, there's no reason to make it sound like someone didn't know what his name was. "Brawl" is clearly the most parsimonious name for the page, but that doesn't change the fact that his name is Devastator in the movie. -[[User:67.149.204.113|67.149.204.113]] 04:44, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

:::Heh, until the DVD release. I don't see Hasbro sitting by on that one when they've got Brawl stamped on all the merchandise.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 04:46, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

::: Brawl is the better name, they should save devastator for the sequel.

The cinema in Minnesota I just saw the movie at had the 'Devastator' cut. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:31, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:Wait, what do you mean? Do you mean "cut" as in "the name Devastator was removed" or "cut" as in "the cut of the film that has Devastator," which would be the same as what everyone else has already seen? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 01:40, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
::The version where he's called Devastator. ...is there ''no'' version where he's called Brawl like the said or something? Now you've confused me. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Nope. It's Devastator in every version.

:::Of course, it's still wrong. But there is no cut that says Brawl. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 01:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

::::It says "Brawl" in the credits, though. And as MCRG said, with "Brawl" on all the packaging I'm sure it'll be changed in time for the DVD release. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 02:40, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

So, uh, twice now people have removed the "Brawl (here called "Devastator")" bit from the movie summary with no explanation at all. I think that phrasing is important for the sake of clarification. Otherwise there's no real clear reason for him to be referred to as Devastator in the article as it's never actually stated before there that the name Devastator appears in the movie. Can somebody please justify this? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 21:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

:It was apparently LV that removed it. After it was put back today, he asked if he was alone in thinking it should be removed. I said it was a little weird to suddenly call the character Devastator with no explanation, and he seemed to give up immediately. I don't recall him actually justifying it, but I think it'd be easiest for you to ask. /:) --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 03:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Regarding current edit:
I don't think we should specifically denounce one name over the other, especially in the movie fiction section. Would the "Brawl (here called "Devastator")" thing work for the first mention, then just use pronouns for the rest of this specific section? [[User:Atomic spaceman|Atomic spaceman]] 21:15, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's really denouncing- he was originally named Devastator, but his name was ''later changed'' to Brawl, it just didn't get fixed int he movie.
:Somehow I feel like that sounds ''less'' than, say, Jetfire begin called Skyfire int he Sunbow Cartoon. (I may change my tune if it's not fixed on the DVD) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:08, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

For the film's fiction subsection I have changed his name to Devastator. It's the only name he is given in that story, and the director of the film has apparently said he prefers that name. To me, that makes it his name. He simply has a different name in the film than in all his other appearances. Further: there is still a mention in the trivia that he is credited as Brawl. However, the last time I saw the movie with LV and Walky, they both scanned the voice credits (I was looking elsewhere) and didn't see him credited ''at all'', under either name. Can any editors personally attest to have seen the credit with their own eyes, or are we just repeating Some Guy's claim that it's there? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 22:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

:Old edit of mine from early June for the Sydney June 12th premiere, where the voice actors were finally revealed. IIRC it was posted by one of the people attending and I forgot to edit it out, and I didn't bother hanging around to watch the voice credits myself. Btw, do the Decepticons EVER refer to Sam as anything other than Ladiesman217? That's why I refer to him as such in all the Decepticon writeups I've done. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Thats it. Call him Devastator because Super Smash Brothers Brawl is coming out and the word Brawl might refer to multiple things.([[User:64.58.144.10|64.58.144.10]] 09:07, 23 November 2007 (UTC))

===DVD===
Well, the DVD has been released in some places already, clips are flooding YouTube. So, I just wanna take the time to ask this question. Does he still call himself Devastator in the DVD release? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 05:57, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
:According to a thread on the official TF movie forum, yes. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:19, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

==Image==
Does anyone have an actual image of Brawl in robot mode? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 16:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:No, he never appeared in any promotional materials to my knowledge, and is BARELY seen in only some of the tv spots. The first time we saw his movie design (and not just his toy) was that leaked concept design sheet at TFW2005. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
::He shows up in various heavily illustrated material, but in group shots. Let me think...He's in the movie comic adaptation, and various storybooks. Meet The Decepticons (group shot), Movie Storybook (likely same), and so forth. If you want a render, it seems unlikely.
:::Doublechecked various books. Seems like the best image of Brawl we'll get is his first appearance in bot mode from the Movie adapation comic. Beyond that, he's either lost in crowds, or not drawn well. Or cropped badly. --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 21:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
::::The game guide has a pretty large promo render of Brawl. There are a couple screen shots clipping him, but I'll see what I can do. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:29, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::So now that Brawl's gotten a released to the public concept art, we gonna ditch the CG one from the game, or keep using him? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 01:14, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::There is? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:54, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

== Devastator and Michael Bay ==

"When queried, director Michael Bay said he had always preferred Devastator and that it is not a mistake."

I'd like to see a source for this. 'Cuz for everyone who brings this up, there's someone who will claim that Bay confirmed it as an error that will get fixed for the DVD. So unless someone can cite a source, I'm inclined to call this (as well as the "fixed for the DVD" version) a "fan rumor".

Oh, and "I seem to recall" or "I think I read somewhere" is not a source.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 22:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

: Then fix it yourself. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:17, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
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I moved the military equipment info to this page since people weren't happy with them having individual pages. We'll leave the character' pages alone, but how does this look for now? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

== not doing a good job ==

There were Abrams tanks in the base Blackout attacked. You forgot that there were C-17s and C-130s were blown to hell by Blackout. You also forgot a photo of the F-22 Raptors.

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==Captions==
Not to try and start a fight or anything, but who made you the arbiter of what makes a "good" caption or not? If you don't have a better caption to put there, then do you really need to edit it out? If you have something better, go ahead and edit it in, but there's was it really necassary to remove all of my changes?

I mean, I though the "Amazing what 23 years will do to ones physique" one was pretty clever, myself.--[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 09:49, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
: Because I say so and I am a jerk! *puts on a crown and purple cloak of royalty*. Seriously, that one you quoted was okay, I accidently pruned that one, but I wasn't hot on some of the others. In my opinion, captions should be thought about, and we shouldn't just caption a pic for the sake of having a caption or doing a joke. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:27, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

==Movie toy information==
We should not put information about leaked/stolen/whatever test shots on the wiki. It's been an unspoken rule since, well, forever, but I guess we need to put it in writing somewhere. It's just not cool. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:08, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
: Actually, we have that "Coming Soon" tag made SPECIFICALLY for this (well, and Fan Club stuff). --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

:: What I find amusing is that I merely modified (slightly) the Energon Arcee toy description. Eh. *Shrugs shoulders* Whatever. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:03, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
::: You also wrote the entire toy write-up for Blackout's Voyager toy and also recently wrote a description of Optimus Prime's 3" titanium figurine. You seem to be writing the bulk of the movie toy writeups. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:34, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Yep, I wrote/expanded half or more of the toy articles on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:51, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
::::: That's cool, and more than appreciated, but in the future, let's wait until we have more than test shots to do so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:53, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::: Aren't you absolutely '''amazed''' at how I was able to deduce the transformation sequence and gimmick of toys I've never seen in person? My engineering schooling did pay off! :-O --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:56, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

You're kind of missing the point. It's the OFFICIALNESS of the information and the slippery slope of putting in stuff that's not officially announced. We don't want this wiki to become yet another goddamn Internet Rumor Dumping Ground. See: [[Help:Coming_soon]] --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:54, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

:No, I'm not missing the point. I'm just dancing around it like the salsa. Ole! --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

==Profile pics==
I don't think we're adhering to "fair use" if every single page on the wiki uses art scanned from the DW MTMTE books. Try to reel it in some! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
: Nah, I won't be doing that. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:: But you are doing it! It's why I brought it up. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
::You ''might'' wanna clarify exactly ''what'' it is you won't be doing. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:::It was a joke, as in "Nah, I won't be doing what you just asked me to do." --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:43, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
::::Just a thought - what is the limit on the usage of pictures ultimately owned by Hasbro? Dreamwave as a company no longer exists. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::Well, IDW plans to publish the MTMTE books, so I think we have to also take that into consideration. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 07:47, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
::::::Oh well, at least I gave pics to articles that didn't originally have pics/wrong models by Dery/crappy G1 box art. I'll stop for... awhile *mysterious* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I like G1 boxart. Especially Omega Supreme's. -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

==Underscores==
You don't need to put underscores in links. The format is just <nowiki>[[something (whatever)|something]]</nowiki>, not <nowiki>[[something_(whatever)|something]]</nowiki>. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 17:39, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Alright thanks, though I might forget and put them anyway, occasionally. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:41, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

== Miranda II ==

And there I thought someone would complain about bashing, or something. :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
: I'm pretty sure Energon is fair game. You know, like NAMbLA. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
:: Yeah, when you ruin [[Demolishor|a perfectly good, interesting character]] by resurrecting him as a gorilla-like dump truck who serves only as slapstick comic relief (and not even good comic relief), you deserve everything you get, stupid Takara Marketing and WE'VE! *shakes fist of fanboy fury* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
::: Man. Demolishor's article needs, like, made not crap. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
:::: Feel free to do so. I get too fanboyish for this wiki whenever I write about stuff I like (like Armada Starscream). --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

==Formatting==
It's not all that messy-looking if the main image juts into fiction section some of the time. I find it's a case-by-case scenario. [[Miranda II]] looked fine with the jut, but not so much to make it worth editing it back the other way. It's not a hard and fast rule, is what I guess I'm saying. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
: The problem is by having the main picture jut into the main text body, you have the text bunched up to one side, and it pushes the edit link into the middle of the screen. Frankly that looks chaotic.
::Not really. Not on that article, no. It just looked like text wrapped around an image. To me, it looked much cleaner the other way. See how subjective this is? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

:The way I see it, we should use it when the article has relatively few sub-sections (which leads to a smaller Contents menu), or when the main picture is relatively long (like a profile picture of a character). Or when using it doesn't create a huge gap between the introductory text/main pic, the contents menu and the main body of text in the article. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:31, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
::Can't you just... make the image smaller if this is such a problem? I find blank white space to be incredibly hideous, moreso than a misplaced edit link. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 17:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Depends on the picture itself. Some images deserve to be big, because they look great or because the focus would be hard to see. Misplaced links and pics into text reminds me of late 90s fanpages. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

== All those toypics you've uploaded ==

Toypics don't get a hastak tag unless they are offical images (say stock photos). Photos of objects (except scans or photos containing only printed material) are copyright of whoever took the picture. Hasbro holds just as much right to the copyright for a unoffical toypic as say, Sony owns the rights for a picture of my computer. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 03:06, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

:The problem is some of those toy pics are scans out of some official publication, or some official picture that the fansite edited together. So I give copyright to Hasbro, but credit to the site, especially if I cannot find the original official pictures. Sometimes I forget to use fairuse on specifically fan-shot photographs. If it bothers you that much, feel free fix all the picture pages with fairuse.--[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:06, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

== anonymous and minor edits ==

Just do you know, anonymous editors don't have a minor edit option. Dunno why, though.
:Odd - maybe its to spur us into suggesting them to register? :P --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

== Safeword debate ==
Hi there, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]] here. I appreciate that you think the link to the definition of "safeword" is a little much (although, frankly, I've seen some pretty risque stuff on this wiki anyway), and although I disagree I'm happy for the link to be removed. However, I think it is definitely an overreaction to change the caption; after all I added that specific image solely for the purpose of that joke. Without the link young kids won't get it and won't be "harmed", and those who do get it are alread in the know. However, rather than just unilaterally reverting it (sans link), I thought I'd give you the opportunity to discuss the matter further if you wish. If I don't hear from you back on my talk page in a few days, then I'll change it back.
Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]]
:: Yeah, you're probably right about that; if it goes over their heads, let it. I'll change it back without the link. Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:::FFN, you mentioned that you changed the caption back to the clean joke because nobody refuted your point... The thing is, I haven't been able to find where you made your argument for its change in the first place. Not on Starscream's talk page, and not here... How can we refute your point if no one knows where it is? That being said, I personally agree with Pacifist Prime. It's no more offensive or risque than some of the other stuff on here (i.e. [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] or anything relating to [[Kiss Players]]), and without the link it's no longer harmful in the slightest. Besides, the new caption is pretty lame and practically screams, "I couldn't think of anything better than this." - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 06:55, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
::::I was referring to my discussion with Walky over MP Starscream's incorrect F-15E colours, and I sorta reverted Walky's edit back to the original with modifications (with hooperx's Titanium 3" caption) to my original MP Starscream paragraph, with added notes about Starscream's other glaring inaccuracies. That's what I meant by 'nobody refuted my point'.
:::: At no point did I change the safeword caption, given that Pacifist Prime and I already resolved that, like, weeks ago, and I advised that to make the joke work, he didn't need to link the meaning for people, because '''A.''' The link to the meaning is abit inappropriate given our wiki's topic, and '''B.''' Its hitting people over the head with the joke. If the joke flies over people's heads, let it.
::::If you had checked the article history, or the Recent changes page, you'll see an anonymous user made the change to the caption. In any case, it wasn't me. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:57, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Ah, see, I saw your comment in the history that said something about reverting to a previous caption because no one refuted your point, and assumed this was what you were referring to. My apologies. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 20:18, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::: No worries. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:52, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

== MP Megs importation to Australia. ==
Well, what can I say? I got mine (two of them, in fact: one for my buddy) from HobbyLinkJapan (scum) with no troubles. Customs didn't even open it. Maybe I was just lucky, but I suspect that those toyshops only got that response from the fuzz because they asked in the first place. In fact, they may very well have tipped them off and made it harder for everyone else to import them now. Who knows? Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
: Um, hi. This is actually somewhat old news, as I haven't checked in for a week or so, but I respectfully suggest that you're overracting just a whisker. I was unaware that there had been further developments for other Australian fans importing the MP-05; as I've stated elsewhere I don't spend any time on discussion boards so I wouldn't know about any of that. If my original few lines on the subject (admittedly based solely on my personal experience of problem-free importation) is no longer representative of the majority, then I have no objection whatsoever to the text being revised.
: However, I think that your edit is a bit of an overlong rave and (at the risk of sounding more Seppocentric than is my wont) I have to say that I don't think Australia's situation really requires as much text as that concerning the States'. Furthermore, I think that your rebuttal "Eat '''that''', Australia" is particularly uneccessary. First of all it sounds like a rather mean-spirited bit of one-upmanship over a comment which, although I'll conceed ''was'' smug, was only meant in the kind of good humour that this site broadly embraces (such as its pervasive mockery of Japanese fiction). Your comment sounds quite barbed by comparison, in my opinion. But regardless of any issues of opinion it frankly doesn't make sense, because it is referring to a previous edit which no longer exists in the current text, so to any newcomer reading it the comment has no context. For this reason most of all I have taken it upon myself to remove that one line, but I have left your preceding paragraph untouched. However I urge you to reconsider its neccessity and respectfully suggest that you cut it down considerably.
: All the best, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].

:: If you are so offended by the fact I made fun of Australia (and I suspect its abit of misplaced patriotism right after ANZAC day), then you shouldn't make fun of America, especially given our toy gun laws are even harsher. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

:::Err... okay. I respectfully suggest that you're missing the point: I'm not offended, nor am I particularly patriotic. In fact, I'm a dual Austalian/American citizen, so your comments regarding my national identity are actually fairly irrelevant. And uncalled for. Don't you think personal remarks on this site are a bit untoward?
:::I just think that your edit gives the impression of being a bit personal, as though you were miffed about my original text, rather than containing material of particular relevance to other readers/users, especially your sardonic rebuttal. Again, my original crack was intended in good humour, so it seems that it is you who are the one getting offended. Perhaps this is not the case, and if so I apologise.
:::But regardless of that I still maintain that the content makes little sense. Please re-read my previous post for my reasons for this.
::: Ta, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:::: Sorry mate. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::: It's okay, I just don't understand what it is about my edits that seem to routinely rub you up the wrong way. I'm just trying to get into the spirit of the site and its refreshingly relaxed attitude compared to other uptight wikis like Wookieepedia. You seem to know a fair bit about Australia, and I'm certainly not out to offend anyone, but you seem to take exception to a fair bit of what I have to say. I don't really understand. [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:::::: Dr. Fang says its because I'm high-strung. And I'm kind of an asshole. Sorry about that, chap. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:19, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::: Okay then, I guess. So, will you please consider trimming the Australian stuff on the MP-05? I just honestly doubt other people need to know so much about gun laws. Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].

== Admin ==
*Excuse me I'm looking for a admin here, do you know where I can find one?[[User:Troyb|Troyb]]<sup>[[User talk:Troyb|(CIS ShadowFeed)]] [[Special:Contributions/User:Troyb|contribs]]</sup>[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 16:09, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

: Hi, unfortunately, I believe they're all at [[BotCon]] right now. Specifically they probably just left the Hasbro product panel. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:12, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

*Grr because I'm here from the new Transfanon wiki, were knida your sister wiki or whatever and I'm a buericrate there so I need someone to tell others about it.[[User:Troyb|Troyb]]<sup>[[User talk:Troyb|(CIS ShadowFeed)]] [[Special:Contributions/User:Troyb|contribs]]</sup>[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 18:31, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

::From the community portal - The admins for this Wiki are [[User:ItsWalky]] and [[User:Suki Brits]]. Just leave them a message and they'll get back sooner or later. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:57, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

==Screencaps==

Where'd you download the movie? You seem to have uploaded some pretty high quality images of the movie that haven't appeared in any of the trailers

:They're all from the trailers and tv spots (highres, low res ect). For instance, the pic of Figueroa reacting to Sgt. Donnelly is from 'Vibration', released around May 22nd. Prime transforming in Mission City and the pics of Bumblebee standing around are from 'Freakout' (June 15). Prime jumping on/towards Megatron, Ironhide transforming and shooting his cannons in a somersault are from the Superherohype exclusive trailer that was also played during an NBA playoff or something on June 24. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

==Animated toy pictures==

Well, the official pictures of the toy wont come out for a LOOOOONG time, so untill then, I'm uploading some bad, blurry ones, because they STILL better than nothing. Tried to give a long description of Lockdown, but somebody just deleted it easly. Also, almost all pictures at the animated ones are blurry and in weird angles, so not mines are the first. And I made them with Paint, not Powerpoint.

:That still doesn't mean we just dump any pics onto this wiki. The series and the toyline won't be out for a long time, so no real reason to have a bunch of pictures now, given there is relatively little information about the series itself.

:Powerpoint as in, Hasbro's powerpoint presentation at SDCC. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

:: Actually, we know pretty mutch about the series and the toys, but you guys don't let any info of it to be putten on, because they're "leaked". So that's it. --[[User:Hepathos|Hepathos]] 21:36, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

:::Any information that isn't official released about a project that is coming soon does not belong here because this wiki (usually) follows what is official, not what is unconfirmed. If you want rumour-mongering, go to the wikipedia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

==Stubs==
Why do you move the stub tags to the top of pages? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:42, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:I feel that Articles that need some filling out should say 'HEY! This article really needs work!' in an obvious manner. Its one of the things other wikis do that I think we should emulate, if only to get people (either registered or unregistered) to finish off these articles. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
::If what needed filling out was easy and simple to do, maybe, but filling some stubs would take weeks of solid work, so having a giant skyscraper of tags at the top of several articles seems excessively frustrating. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I forgot most of you guys run at lower resolution (judging by screencaps), so I misjudged how bad the messageboxes would be. Sorry man. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:16, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

==Bonecrusher quote==
Since Bonecrusher doesn't speak in the film, could you put an attribution for the quote you added to the top of his page? I'm sure I'm not the only one who will wonder where he said it. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 17:42, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
: Sorry, I'm writing up his Target comic #2 appearance now for that, but it would help if you can respond to the talk page question on the Transformers (2007) page regarding what we should refer to the comics as, so I can actually reference it in the quote, among other things. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
::Bonecrusher has only 2 lines in 'Ghosts,' and this is neither. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:03, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, like I said, its from the new Target-exclusive comic on their robovision site. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:11, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

== Suggestions ==

Why don't I suggest on creating a page about [[Popular Cybertronian vehicle alternate modes]]? If the Earth and Beast gets a popular vehicle alternate modes page so does Cybertron.([[User:Soldier 79|Soldier 79]] 10:35, 20 October 2007 (UTC))
:Because with Earth vehicles there are identifiable models and designs that are recognisable. With Cybertronian vehicles they are 'generic futuristic car/truck/plane/spaceship'. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:38, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
More reasons why to create it. You are an awesome person, Megatron often turns into mostly a Cybertronian vehicle, Earth Vehicle modes page has a rule like 3 toy models and finally it is better that way. Plus Transformers Animated will have one heck of alot of Autobots and Decepticons that turn into Cybertronian vehicles.([[User:Soldier 79|Soldier 79]] 10:43, 20 October 2007 (UTC))
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User talk:Interrobang

2007-11-23T08:23:49Z

64.58.144.10: /* Beast Wars timeline */

===Fucking up the characters categories===
Cut it out! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:40, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

===Megatron (BW)===
Hey, Interrobang, you've written the entire ''Beast Wars'' fiction section in present tense. It should be in past tense. Couldja please fix it? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:04, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

----

Sorry if I wasn't aware of this, but has there been a discussion about making a "''series'' Character" category and putting all the characters into it?
Also, the Classics category does not belong in the Generation 1 category. The Classics Mini-cons aren't from G1, nor is Leo Prime. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

:Every new iteration of G1 has added unique characters. In DreamwaveG1, we got [[Fallen|the Fallen]], [[Gravitas]] and the other ancients, [[Backbite]] and his assassin team, etc. The IDW comics have given us a bunch of new humans and even a [[Calabi-Yau|named spaceship]]. ''Classics'' is likewise a G1 continuity because of its core cast and overall theme. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]]

::I ''think'' I read in some report out of BotCon that the Classics Mini-Cons are going to be considered part of a G1 universe. Can anyone confirm that? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:58, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

::: I can. Forrest Lee stated the Classics Mini-Cons ARE, fictionally, part of the Classics "neo-G1" universe. Which I wholeheartedly approve of. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

::::My first reaction was, "WHAT fiction?" But then it occurred to me that the ''Classics'' line has already seeped into the IDW-G1 universe via Jetfire. How much crossover can happen before we consider them one and the same (well, as one-and-the-same as, say, DW-Energon and the Energon toys)?
:::::Doubt that'll happen. At the fan club magazine panel, [[Forest Lee]] said that next year's fan club newsletter comic storyline was probably going to use the Classics in a post-Marvel Comics universe. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:35, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

::::::Serious? Oh, rock ''on.'' - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 20:10, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

::::::Actually, I wonder how that'll square with their apparent plan to keep annually releasing the clear Energon combiner figures. Maybe those characters will jump out of the UT dimension and into the Marvel comic universe? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 21:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

:::::::They will. Skyfall and Landquake will be taking center stage, and presumably combiner #3 will have ended up in G1-land, #4 in post-movie-land, etc. Also, Unicron is now a focal point of the comic too, so there you go. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

RE: [[Packrat]], [[Fractyl]], etc.: At what point does "speculation" become unsuitable for this Wiki when we're dealing with a storyline that can't be explained without severe untangling and hole-filling? Is it a matter of phrasing or italicizing? The bits you deleted weren't random, Neale-style "apocrypha." Those characters are on the outskirts of a major time-travel storyline that ends with an entire timeline being negated, canonically. And there are good reasons to think that their BW adventures went "poof" along with the rest. (See Derik and my discussion on [[Vice Grip]].) No, it's not a NECESSARY conclusion, nor did I suggest that it was. But it's a strong enough possibility that I think we do the Wiki a disservice if it's not mentioned. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 08:36, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, but you could have said it in under 20 words. '''And''' your time-altering explanation doesnt' fit the sequence of events. '''And'''... this is really more appropriate as a general entry on the main 3h Fiction page, nothign that their 'extra characters' fit badly aroudn the edges of the universe. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:49, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

The french version of firefox is not that helpfull on that matter. Sorry, I'll try to be more carefuul.

==Recent==
Sorry, I think I accidentally picked that up from whoever's line I edited on the Floro page. I'll go catch them all.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 04:35, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

==Re:Bulkhead edit==
"J'wan"? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 07:10, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

=="Reverted on general principle"==
The guy's being obnoxious, but his edit has merit. I think he's just a little too young. I undid your edit in the process of trying to clean up the matter. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 07:49, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

== Keywords ==

Please don't orphan pages by deleting sections you find aesthetically displeasing.

If you want to remove those sections then, ''at minimum'', it falls to you to to link those orphaned articles up. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:21, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

== Personal attacks in edit summaries ==

"Are you sure you don't have Asperger's?"

That was REALLY uncalled-for. --[[User:TVsGrady|TVsGrady]] 23:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

==Comic article titles==
I wish you would wait on moving a bunch of comic issue articles until we come to a desicion about what scheme to go with site-wide. It's being [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal#Comic Issues Naming Convention|slowly discussed on the community portal]]. I agree that we should be consistent, but I do not like the parantheses scheme you are moving things to. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 19:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

==Beast Wars timeline==
Hello, I've start a article [[Beast Era timeline|here]] by using some temporary file I write before, maybe you can help with that! ;D --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 04:47, 05 November 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:Angela

2007-11-23T08:16:20Z

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User talk:ItsWalky

2007-11-23T08:13:26Z

64.58.144.10: /* Category: Things that don't exist */

--I'm deeply sorry

=="Deadside"?==

Umm, who? what? I just don't think you're funny, but no, I don't know you and you don't know me. [[User:66.28.139.242|66.28.139.242]] 03:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

==Something I Noticed==

I see that when new users come in - I did this too - one of the first things they start to do is edit out the silly captions and some of the humor from the Wiki. This is mostly stemming from the transition from Wikipedia and other Wikis to Teletraan-1, since most others have strict no-humor. Is there a way to put up some sort of banner in the "Help Contents" guide, that explains, look, we're silly here sometimes?

And, um, that guy below is just funny as hell. [[User:Mirai Gen|Mirai Gen]] 19:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

==Things to say to you==
[[Image:Ttoc.GIF|right|thumb|We approve this message.]]

Just some thing I've been wanting to say to David...

First off, you're a monumental asshole. You have an ego the size of a small planet and it's irritating watching you act like an important SOB when you're basically just a nobody.

Second, your webcomics aren't funny. They're boring tripe that makes Penny Arcade look good(and believe me, Penny Arcade is garbage). Cyanide and Happiness is a funny webcomic, yours is not. Your "jokes" are painful, about like watching Michael Richards yell the n-word as a routine. You don't draw a comic, you draw an opinionated blog. I'm not sure which name suits your crap better, "ShitPacked" or "ShortDicked".

Your liberalism and your love of Indiana get on my nerves. You jab at Mallard Filmore? Yeah, one shitty comic making fun of another shitty comic. Or are you just pissed that his gets in newspapers while you're JUST a webcomic? As to Indiana, I live here, and if it were up to me, the state would be walled off and none of the freaks living there allowed to interact with the rest of the planet. The state is about 3 decades behind the times. But something tells me even you know this otherwise you'd still live here. I sure as hell do not live here by choice and as soon as I can, I'm moving far away from this joke of a state.

And your brand loyalty is typical fandom crap. You have Aaron Archer's rod so far down your throat it's unreal. And Aryan fucktard Michael Bay's rod has apparently joined it. I'd say soemthing abotu Don Murphy but he was born without one. Actually, I can say something- he's Kevin "unfunny asshole" Smith with more body fat. Hasbro didn't give the film to a competent director, just a cheap one. And neither Speilberg or ILM have done anything useful in years. Give WETA, or even Tom Savini a chance and we wouldn't be getting Bionicle bots. You're afraid to not like a Hasbro product. No wonder they don't have to go out of the way to please the "fans"- you'll accept it no matter what. But hey, you personally have been sucking off incompetent British bonehead Simon Furman and his shitty stories for years. There are no gods in Transformers. Unicron was built by a monkey, little man. Furman is dog shit.

And go figure this TF wiki is a joke full of misinformation, insults or outright lies- you're a mod here. You're never right. You're more of an incorrect pompous jerkoff than Defunct is. Right, ban me from editing, as if it would somehow matter, any info you don't agree with is pulled. You only have friends because people feel sorry for you. Me, I have no need. People are a commodity to be used and their wants only get in the way of what I'm out for. Use them and drop them.

Who am I? Go look who added a note about you on Encyclopedia Dramatica's Allspark page if you're not too lazy. As well as past AS, Kalidor, FIRRIB and Hooks entries(the hooks entry especially true). Oh, and just info on white people in general and that idiotic Nintendo Wii. I'm not making it that easy for you.
: Is it my birthday? This stuff ''feeds'' me. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: Duuuuude. Walky may be a dick, but I still ''like'' him for some inexplicable reason. You, on the other hand, are just one sore drama queen.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 17:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: This is some of the most funny stuff I've seen in a while. Comedy PLATINUM. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: Bwa ha ha ha ha. Priceless. I think someone needs to get off the internets for a few minutes. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 02:49, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: Wait, you mean I didn't get drunk and write this? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 05:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: I wish lame puns happened to me. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 20:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

== I thought it was vandalism ==

Just that I read the article and thought it was vandalism from the way it was written. So I accidently reverted it to the old one, which had more of something that seemed like vanderism. Then I realize I am not in wikipeida, but in Transformers wiki. I clicked on a link from Tformers.com and since the two sites look so damn similar, yeah......That explains the humor and why I had to make an account here. Sorry, but I am wishy washy at the moment since I have a term paper due soon and haven't gotten any sleep. Sorry. LOL--[[User:Doomzaber|Doomzaber]] 03:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

== Just kind of curious ==

Is there a limit to your knowledge of Transformers lore, or is it as infinite as the cosmos?

Because damn, do you know a lot.

==You are now an Admin==

Hello ItsWalky, I've made you and Suki Brits admins for this wiki. Thanks for offering to help out! Let me know if there is anything you need help with or can't do. Please see [[Wikicities:Help:Administrators' how-to guide]] for the basics, and let me know if you want more admins added - you two will be fine for now, but more may be needed in time. Thanks again -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] [[User talk:Sannse|(talk)]] 12:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

My liege *kneels*--[[User:OctopusPrime|Octopus Prime- King of the Road!]] 13:45, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Nice April Fools lol [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 14:49, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

...RUN, HE'S GONE MAD WITH POWER!

I know Bodycount was being antagonistic about his changes (not just on the Nemesis Prime entry), but I think blocking him for 2 weeks may have been excessive. We should try to settle editorial conflicts through compromise, like they do at Wikipedia, by rewriting the article to express both points of view and the reasoning behind those views. On the other hand, I
have no idea who he is, aside from a vague feeling that he's an Allsparker. You may be more familiar with his habits than I. Maybe he's likely to just be disruptive. But from what I have seen just here at this site, I think the block was premature. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 17:42, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

MAD WITH POWER!

I Knew BC at Tfans, he was a bit antaganistic to the rabid GeeWuners, but he's a great kitbasher. [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 05:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Bodycount's been banned repeatedly from the Allspark, and from several other boards, as well. He's a textbook troll, and we're better off without him. - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 05:05, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

== There's an issue with the "Recent Changes" page ==

Up at the top of the "recent changes" page where it says "below are the last X chaned in the last Y days as of DATE", for some reason the "DATE" says "$3". --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 14:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Pssy, Walky! You need a http:// on the botcon link on your blog. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:22, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

== The Agenda: Part 1 ==

:Hahaha, the guy whose fault it is I'm here was right behind me, messing with my first edits. How's that for irony? :)
:(I love Shortpacked.) - [[User:Doogles|Doogles]] 21:39, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

== Episode Template Comments ==

Hi ItsWalky. Thanks loads for your feedback. Sorry about the date thing. As for the loss of data between the two templates, reordering each of the groups for order of appearance shouldn't be too difficult, just means watching the episode carefully again (unfortunately, when I did the lists of characters for my own TF site, I didn't consider having them in order of appearance and thus alphabetized them right away). With regards to the difference between major and minor characters, I'm not sure I would quite know where to draw the line on who's what in every TF episode. To me, it would seem to depend if the character was regular, is he major or minor for the whole series, season, or just the episode, or if the character was a guest, I could see it likely being just the episode. Perhaps if I knew what guidline Teletraan-1 was using to determine Major/Minor status, I could think of a way to incorporate it into my template. Thanks again for your feedback. [[User:Telet093|Telet093]] 00:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello again. Just to let you know I've incorporated order of appearance into my test template if you wanted to check it out: [[User:Telet093/The Master Builder]]. [[User:Telet093|Telet093]] 23:50, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
==Cartoon==
Hi - sorry for the home page edit, I was trying to figure out if I added the word "cartoon" at the top of the page, would google figure out that your site is not about power control and liquid transformers :-) [http://wikia.com/wiki/User:Gil Gil]
:Google's not gonna figger it out, no, not until they distinguish between the two in their databases. Believe me, every TF site with google ads has the same problem. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:01, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

== A Question on Mini-Con Entries ==
As I'm hitting the "random page" button, I seem to come up with a Mini-Con page for this or that Mini-Con most of the time. Is there any reason every Mini-Con has its own page? Could they be consolidated on to their respective team pages? This may be a community issue, but I figured an editor the best place to start.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:43, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
: All the ones in Armada and Cybertron, at least, have their own bios and personalities, so that should be enough for a page. I think, in principle, every toyed character should have its own page, whether it be a Nebulan, Mini-Con, Deployer, or what have you. I tend to only use the "Related characters" subsection for fiction-only humans and the like. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

==Question Time Again==
Would it be possible to consolidate the pages such as [[quartex]] and [[cycle]] and whatever else is floating about into just a single "Cybertronian Units of Time" page of some sort? I had no idea a "quartex" existed until I randomly hit the [[Conductors]] page, for instance, but having them all in one place might be helpful, or possibly to rename the page into "Measurements of time" and split off [[Megamile]]?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 05:59, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
: I don't see why we can't have both. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:17, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

== Alot of images seem to be missing ==

many of the images have dissipered, such as the ones on [[neon]]. the image files themselves cive a "can't find on server" error. any idea WTF is up? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:42, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
:Probably just a temporary glitch. Wikia has a lot of them. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:46, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

==Sources==
How does one go about making reference to a patent and a catalog in a footnote on here?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 18:20, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
: Replacing -s with HTML arrow-thingies:
::-ref-[[More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]-/ref-
::And then create a "Footnotes" subheading at the bottom of the page, under which you type:
::-references/-
::That will automatically create a footnote there.
:See [[Ratchet (G1)]] for an example. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
==Lyrian==
Are you seeing the Lyrian.jpg image on her entry? Because I still am not. [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 22:12, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
OK, correction: I ''am'' seeing it when I use Internet Explorer, but not when I use Mozilla Firefox. [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 22:14, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
:I think you need to refresh the page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:21, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

==Sorry?==
Dude, the Seeker cateogry expressely said it was for G1 characters, and it wasn't until now that you decided that the Armada guys counted. Maximals was in Beast Era category, so I just made it more specific. Same for Vehicons. I'm sorry for pissing you off, but you're effectively blaming me for not being psychic. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 21:33, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

== Images fitting ==

I have a wide screen resolution (1280x800), and often times images that are on the same side will start to stack up if there aren't enough lines of text between them, kind of like this:

:img | _______
_______| | img

That's what was happening with the Airazor pics. Would it be better to add in come blank lines? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:18, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
: Well, in Airazor's case, we just had to fill in more summary. She was missing some key episodes, which filled in more text between the two images. On other pages, I dunno, it's a problem with the system, which we'll have to work out, 'cuz I think all images are gonna hafta be lefted if there's storylinks over there. Otherwise it's a mess. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:27, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

== COMPLETE GO-BOTS POWER?!!! ==

Walky, I '''''must''''' have this thing! For [http://chawks.brinkster.net/gb my Go-Bots site]!

PLEEEASE?

{wipes up drool}
: Steve-o's got first dibs, and he'll have it up on his TF coloring book archive whenever he gets the time. I've just now shared the harddrive folder with all the stuff in it so he has access to it, after all these years. I'm slow. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:26, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

::Saw the scans. That's awesome! It's really too bad it never got made. And y'know, I think a Go-Bots cover done in the "DW house style" could actually look super-cools. May I have permission to upload the scans to my site? (I always like to ask.) --[[User:Salt-Man Z|Salt-Man Z]] 20:10, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

==Bureaucrat==
Hi David. Since the original founder of this wiki has been inactive since June 2005, I've made you a bureaucrat here in case there are any trusted community members who need to be made into admins. See [[Wikia:Help:User access levels]] for help with this. I liked your recent [http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20070101.html comic] mentioning the wiki. Perhaps you should link to the wiki as well to encourage more transformers fans to join in. [[w:User:Angela|Angela]] <sup>[[User talk:Angela|talk]]</sup> 00:40, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

== Pretender Grimlock ==

In case you didn't know, Reprolabels makes Pretender Grimlock stickers. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:32, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
: Oooh. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:33, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

== About the delete of the IDW megatron Pic ==

The image illustrate megatron in his IDW form (as well as his alt mode), and it as been (at least) released on the official site. Isn't it all an image need to be. The text here, isn't the important part and is still readable anyway. Here just to prove it's not "stolen" or anything: http://www.idwpublishing.com/newreleases.shtml --[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 14:12, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
: I know it's not stolen. We can probably manage to wait one more day until the actual issue comes out and we can have something of useable size to scan. The image, at the size it was, was useless. (Also, we should avoid having full pages up, unless absolutely necessary. Otherwise it's not exactly fair use.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:16, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

== And the Lord said "DUDE". And it was groovy. ==

For the record, and I know this counts for almost nothing, Willis is the reason I'm here. Yeah, I love wikis, I love Transformers, and I (rather inexplicably) adore the Jumpstarters, but I wouldn't know about Teletraan 1 if not for the blog on Shortpacked!.

So, yeah. That's all I gotta say for now... rawkon, Walkyboy. \m/

:I hate you. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 03:05, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

::What the slag is Shortpacked, and who in the Pit is this Willis? --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 17:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
:::You aren't serious, are you? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 22:13, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

== Pie ==
What exactly is the great importance of Pie? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 21:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
:As the ratio of the circumfrence to the radius of a sphere, it underpins the structure of our universe.
:Of course, some people argue that because no perfect circle exists in out quasi-raster universe, pi is actually nothing that a unique mathematical phenomena, of no consequence ot the real world.
:(These people are communists.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

== disambuig question ==

When a character shares a name with an episode, do both pages get a series tag, or just the episode? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:41, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Are we talking about Chase? He's the only one that wouldn't get a (G1) otherwise, that I can think of... I would tentatively say that having the TF be [[Chase]] and the episode be [[Chase (Armada episode)]] would be fine. Of course, we might need a disambig page to encompass [[Chip Chase]], I dunno. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

== CSS change ==

Hey Walky, I'm requesting a change to the sitewide CSS that you can see at [[MediaWiki_talk:Monobook.css]]

It's Wikipedia's pretty able classes. Wikia (buizarely) comes with ''no'' table classes. We dont' use tables much here, but should we want to, we'd want them to look like this. (And this is the class all the wikipedia-how-to-create-a-table tutorials tell you to use.) The code is unaltered from Wikipedia, so it won't conflict with anything.

Appreciate it if you could port it over for me.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
: Where do I put it? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:07, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
::Oh, sorry, I forgot you hadn't done this before.
::Please append the requested change from the CSS discussion area [[MediaWiki_talk:Monobook.css]] to the end of the actual CSS file [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]], which you can edit but I cannot.
::The lack of these table styles is moderately more pressing than it was when I originally requested them, since we now have an article that actually uses tables -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:16, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

== online update ==

When you talk about online updates, maybe a direct link should be required (if it's official and everyhing and stuf...).

:... for what? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe I have I have missunderstood, but when he talk about "online update", he talk about material that have been put on official sites or something, and therefore, for completition sake, a link to it would be appropriate. If I have get it wrong, or if those sites require payment to be accessible, then forget what I say...
:::It is indeed pay content for the Fan Club. A direct link would not work. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Alright.

== Scale question ==
Hi there, this is PacifistPrime, the originator of the new [[Scale]] article. Thanks very much for your contributions. Just one question though; you've changed some of the estimated "real world" heights for characters like Prime and Bumblebee, stating that they "have been calculated". I don't mean to disagree with you ''per se'' (although I must admit your figures do instinctively strike me as unlikely, but that's just my guestimate), but I was wondering if you could please source those figures. Not so much in the article itself (believe me, I'm very sick of the bluenoses over at Wikipedia always being on peoples' case about that), but rather just for my own personal interest. I've actually wanted for some time now to set up a project that would use the toys and specs for the real vehicles to calculate how big most of the pre-Movie G1s would be. But if someone has already done this, I'd love to know their results, and I'd be particularly interested in their method. Can you give me some directions? Please respond in my own talk page, if you don't mind. Hope to hear from you, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/6db411e03e75a342?dmode=source LV once figured it out using real vehicle lengths and stuff.]
:Also, a trend in the article seems to be overunderestimating the size of the Transformers in the cartoon, for example, saying that Optimus Prime would "only" be 20 feet tall, versus the giant size you believe he is. We've got lots of model sheets available to us that show that Optimus Prime was drawn to be 15-ish feet, or 3 Spikes tall. Now, the comic tended to draw the Transformers much, much larger than that, but in the cartoon, they were kinda dinky, though that's of course not incredibly consistent. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

== ''The Enemy Within Part 2'' ==

I'm wanting to start writing an article for ''The Enemy Within'', but there is one slight problem. My scans of the issue (saved from Seibertron and TCA before the comic scans were taken down) are missing pages 9 and 10 (the last two color pages) from part 2, and from what I've been able to dig up from the Wayback Machine, the scans used on the various sites never had those two pages (or a few from ''The Man Of Iron'' UK printing, and page 8 from UK #6). I'm not sure if this is kosher, but any idea where I might be able to "acquire" those two pages? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 19:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
: Gimme an email address. I may have them. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:48, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
::fortressmaximus05 (at) verizon.net --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:06, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

== Blog not wiki ==
Hey man, that's totally fair enough; realise I was on a bit of a rave there about Masterpiece Megs. Still, you didn't have to be impolite about it. Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]]. P.S. I wouldn't be caught dead writing a blog. Got much better things to do with my time. Like edit this wiki. ;-)
:Me again. I seem to stuff up on your watch pretty regularly, huh? Sorry about the E.J.Su cover thing; I honestly thought that WAS him for some reason. So much so, in fact, that I was wondering myself why the style seemed a little inconsistent with his other work...! Do you know who ''did'' do it? I expect was it the same dude who did the "Uncle Prime" recruitment poster. Later, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:: I had already immediately edited the file to note the name of the artist. It's right there, man. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== one more Dinobot question ==

I'm wanting to try the part swap you did with your BWX Dinobots, but have one problem. Is there a way to remove the upper half of the molds upper arms without messing up the pegs and holes? Years ago, I removed those parts from my FoxKids Dinobot, but after re-assembling him, the arms would often pop off while rotating the shoulder swivel. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:09, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

The bicep piece, you mean? I haven't had any trouble with it. I just yanked it out of its socket, unscrewed it from the elbow, swapped, and voila. Worked same as before. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:32, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

== Just Sayin' Hi ==

Ok, this is embarassing.

I've been on the TFWiki a while now, and on a lot of discussion pages I've posted on, you're the first or second person to answer a question or comment on my post.

I also read Shortpacked and didn't know you were... well, you.

It was seemingly at random I clicked on your link to see your page and, lo and behold, you're the reason for so much joy and pain, the grand well of Transformers knowledge, the de facto LEGENDARY user who knows how many punctuation marks are in the title of seemingly random comics... from EUROPE.

I simply want to say that it's an honor for me to be able to collaborate with you on this project. Transformers has always been a big part of my childhood, and now my adulthood. I'm starting up the UniCronicles (see my page for more details) and yours, along with several other webcomics I read, have inspired me. I thank you for Shortpacked, your contribution to Teletraan I, and, of course, for making fun of that ditzy purple skank. I mean, am I the only one who noticed she was like 3 million years the senior of most of the ''Cybertron'' cast? Granny's got her freak on.

Anyway, keep making teh funniez. I'll keep reading them. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:55, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

: Allow me to translate - SLURRRRRRP SLURP SLURP SLURP SLURRRRRRRRRRP mmm SLURRP SLURP SLURP please not in my hair SLURP SLURP SLURP [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 18:42, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
::You know, normally I try to keep things clean, organized, and polite, especially when it comes to something like this. But just this once, I'm going to say it. Fuck all y'all. I don't give a flying rat's ass about what you think about me, so go fornicate yourself with a barbed iron rod. Just because I admire one man's work doesn't mean I'm some mindless suck up, and you would let Aaron Archer assfuck you (no lube). [[User:Dracokanji|Dracokanji]] 12:57, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::: It's okay. Nobody ever listens to Hooper. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:01, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

::::Oh well. So then. Thoughts on Alternators Ravage (Jaguar XK-9)? [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:11, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

::Allow me to translate - SOMEONE PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEE PLEASE HEY LOOK WACKY HOOP LOOK LOOK HEY LOOK MEEE SO LONELY --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:46, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

:::If somebody kills his lonely, can we get a necromancer?--[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:07, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

:And Hoop's comment was ''so'' unfair. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:49, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

== Transformers Chess Set ==

Do you know anything about the upcoming Tranformers Chess set? All I know is that Autobots are gold, and Decepticons are silver. And what should we do about an article? Just call it "Chess" or "Transformers Chess"? Plus, can anyone confirm whether or not Bumblebee is the pawn for the Autobot side? [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 02:57, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
: Well, there's going to be two sets, one that's really expensive and in color and featuring show-accurate G1 dudes -- and the one you speak of, which is movie-related. Do we know what they say on the box, yet? I suppose we could have one article at [[Chess set]] or something that talks about all kinds of TF chess sets. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:38, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
:: Unless there's something that really makes the sets remarkable or stand out as deserving individual mention, I move for one article about all Transformers versions of Chess, with a note about [[fulstasis]]. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:31, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
::I think just [[Chess]] is a better title than [[Chess set]]. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:45, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
:::I suppose a single page would be in order. Even if they are remarkable and awesome and whatever, there's still little to be said, other than a list of who is what piece and where/when it's available. I have to agree with calling it [[Chess]], thought. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 07:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

1 page.--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 19:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

P.S. in the movie set, pawns are autobot symbols. BB might be in the G1 set.--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 19:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

== Please remove (or at least justify) block ==
Um,
Excuse me, but... what the heck? (Block ID #49)

Why on earth have you blocked me? VANDALISM? Are you kidding?!?

Is this about the two snarky little comments spilled over from the Movie-G1-IDW categorisation micro-debate? i.e., the ones that were already deleated from the Movie pages well over a week ago and are thus no longer an issue at all? Have you seriously blocked me over that? Good lord...

Okay, maybe those TWO very SMALL comments were SLIGHTLY out of order, but to call it
vandalism...! This isn't Wikipedia, mate. If you wanna start policing sarcastic
comments and POV material then you've got a loooong task ahead of you on this
site, don't you think? Blocking me for those comments hardly seems rational.

That you wanted to delete them? Fine. But to BLOCK me for it? C'mon; get real.

I am a comparatively new user, but one in good standing who has contributed several articles and is polite in all discussions at every turn, far more so than some other users here that I've observed. I've noticed that on more than one occasion you have had somewhat grumpy reactions to things I have to say, so I'm more than a little suspicious that this block isn't some kind of vindictive action on your part, as you seemingly have some kind of problem with me, although I can't imagine on what basis.

This block is clearly absurd, and not at all in the spirit of fun and good
humour I've come to love about this site. I don't see how you can reasonably justify this action, and I am also complaining about this to your fellow adminstrator.

Yours indignantly, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
: For your information, I banned you right BEFORE I deleted your vandalism. It wasn't a week-later thing, no. And, yes, if you're going to end a long Talk Page discussion in which you were overwhelmingly outvoted by editing '''the articles themselves''' with retaliatory comments, then, yes, that's vandalism. Certainly, if that's going to be the nature of your contributions here, then you don't belong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

::With all due respect this is a massive overraction. I'm prepared to apologise to anyone you want me to, but you seem to be attributing all kinds of deviant, troublemaking behaviour to me that is simply NOT truthfully accurate. Don't take my word for it: please look at my history of contribution and discussion with other users. I've always been scrupulously polite and have never gotten into an edit war with anyone.

::So, Okay, yes, if you really want me to say it: I DID A BAD THING. I'm sorry. Don't you guys have some kind of strike system? To permanently ban me over this small piece of sarcasm really seems excessive, don't you think?

::[[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:::You're not permanently banned! Steve-o says it was for three months, but I don't think I would have done it for that long on purpose. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:00, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Stereo is annoying. Can we pick a talk page and stick with it? (I nominate this one.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::Regardless, I've unblocked you for the three months and reblocked you for an additional week starting today, as I intended to block for two weeks. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:03, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, dude. You seem to be a step ahead of me. I'm not trying to foul you up. Please feel free to delete my erroneous edits. I was trying to say that G2 Breakdown (the AM) was unofficial. Just hadn't gotten to it yet!--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 03:22, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== DS Pics ==
Question for you since you've got the Autobots DS card- Does it have the USS Seaspray docked in Tranquility's harbor in the Autobots version?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 03:32, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
: Yeah! Heh. I didn't notice that, but I see the name now. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:45, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:: Probably old news, but there's an available mode meant as a Hoist homage too. -[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 16:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

==Bobby Bolivia Trivia==
Wow, you're right. I totally misinterpreted that. To be fair (shift blame) the same bit of trivia on Bumblebee's page wasn't as clear at the time it was written. So..um.. yeah. But you know, now that it's evident that they kinda paid exactly what it was worth, I fail to see how that bit of trivia is even relevant to the article now.
It should probably just go altogether. [[User:Atomic spaceman|Atomic spaceman]] 14:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

==Fandom page==
Listen, hate to bother you, but there is ''massive'' edit war going on at [[Fandom]]. Could you please just semi-protect (or totally protect) the page while people try to figue out what to do? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 19:41, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

==BANNED==

What the hell did I do to warrant a ban, exactly? As far as I'm aware, I don't even think I broke any rules, and if I did, an official warning would be appropriate. I received no such warning. I was not here for trolling and you know that - you use that bullshit excuse to get people to ignore arguments you can't handle. But you, personally, who made this decision, know I'm not a troll.

This is fucking low. I had little enough respect for you down to your ranting against the fanbase, Willis, but this is a whole new level of buggery. If you're going to use your comic to rant against and discredit people you don't like, the least you can do is suck it up when people rant at you back, and not act like a control-freak child.

I really don't think you're aware of your own actions anymore.
*Do the words [[Wikipedia:WP:NPA|no personal attacks]] mean anything to you? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:: Do the words "warning before ban" mean anything to you? Rulemongering doesn't justify a decision anyway, since Walky is one of the people making the rules. There were plenty of personal attacks leveled at me, but I did not report them officially.

::I really find it hard to believe that you think it's completely on a rational level of discourse to claim that the comic strip I draw is about child pornography. If I'm not mistaken about your identity, you've been banned from almost every single Transformers web board you've had an acquaintance with, and I'm only doing this place a favor by getting rid of you. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

::: That's not an excuse. I will openly admit I HAVE been banned from several forums, but only because I repeatedly opposed the staff on each and every one of them; and with good cause, they all have roughly the same problem. People bully others either into liking the movie or to agree with the kind of views you promote - and since nobody can directly attack or discredit anyone, these people(and you are) are left to their methods.
::: For your current decision to be validated, the admins of those boards, boards which are influenced in turn by your anti-fan attitude, would have to be near 100% correct in their decisions, and those decisions would have to occur within a context that would map exactly onto here. Any rational moderator does not base their decisions so much off performance on other boards, especially when it's not even a messageboard they're operating. Two different media. I have openly said I despise all active Transformers boards for their level of authoritarianism, yet level of tolerance towards the pushing of certain viewpoints.

::: Not to mention that you're still operating under the fallacy of Appeal to Majority - that alone means I shouldn't really even have to counter you.

::: And don't even use the "CHILD PORNOGRAPHY" thing as an excuse. Again, any rational moderator would warn several times before a ban, I personally reversed that edit even though it was obviously intended to be a joke as anyone reading this knows what pile'o'bile already is. You have no justification for what you did, but your ego is too big to realise you can actually do wrong with your power. You'll never admit it, but I wouldn't be surprised if some part of you is pissed that I defeated some of your ramblings, whether they were directly written by you or encouraged by you, it's still the kind of guff you normally blew, and I managed to defeat it. You, and the mods of the big sites will always have your ban buttons - but you will NEVER be able to justify your actions to me. That's how I know that I'm in the right, at least in situations like this - solidly backed justification is almost always absent.
:::: Personal attacks + deleting comments in response to you = banno --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:::: P.S. Sign your posts. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

::::: I have never intentionally deleted comments in response to me. I just moved one recently as it was in the middle of a paragraph of text. Not to mention that happened after you banned my original IP. Personal attacks alone are not grounds enough for a ban, especially when you're doing an awful, awful lot to be mercilessly torn into.
Need I point out that once again, you are unable to defend yourself properly? When does the "You're insane?" come? Ganging up of all your little friends since a majority always means you're right?
Do you even realise what a fascist shithead you sound like? Just because you're an admin of a place doesn't give you a free pass to be a dick with it. There's a difference between what you can do and what you should do that you don't seem to have learned yet.

[[User:67.159.44.88]]

: YOU BAN PEOPLE BECAUSE ****YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE

TRUTH****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111twelve FUCKING FASCIST PIGCOP NAZI WIKIPEDO '''ASSHOLE''' [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:32, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

:: My gosh, now that I have seen someone mock the notion, it MUST be untrue. Please, where can I learn these 1337 debating skills?

:::Dude, I've been banned from twice as many forums as you, guaranfuckingteed, but they still let me post here because I'm not as goddamn retarded as you are. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:34, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

:::: And can you demonstrate exactly how I'm more retarded than you? Or are you just, Walky style, dropping weighted terms to discredit someone's point of view without even trying?

:::::1. Hoop doesn't delete other people's comments on talk pages. 2. He actually signs his posts, which you've been asked to do many times, but haven't caught on. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:40, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

:::::: I didn't delete anything. If I did, it was an accident because someone posted right in the middle of text it wasn't meant to be in the middle of. Not signing my posts doesn't make me retarded since it's blatant when I'm saying something. --[[User:67.159.44.88]]

Actually - come to think of it, you make fun of the idea that anyone running a site can be Nazi, yet you still mention you got banned from many forums. Does that perhaps mean that you genuinely got banned for being an asshole and not opposing the staff/local clique like I did?

:''any rational moderator would warn several times before a ban''
:Not true, some things are auto-ban. I don't think you ''did'' any of them, but I'm just saying.
:Dude- you got an expedited ban because you showed no signs of contrition, argued every point, used personal insults, refused to sign your posts even when '''repeatedly asked to''' (I had to go back into history and dig out which incoherent chunks of text where yours, because the posts weren't hierarchied properly so the debate was really hard to follow. This is why signin posts is important dumbfuck.)
:And ultimately you got banned because you were making a major nuisance of yourself in ''without'' any correlating '''contribution''' to justify keeping you around. You're a negative. You edited 3 articles- Fandom, Shortpacking and Ruined Forever- and ''all' of those edits got reverted because they either flames or crappy jokes that make the articles ''worse''. Even if I were to (generously) believe you didn't intend to start a fight, you picked the 3 flamebaitiest articles you could find and masturbated across them. ''Allah forfend'' you should write an ''episode summary'' or something.
:Unrelated- Walky can Talk:Fandom be semi-protected instead of full? Loserbot isn't registered. -[[User:Derik|Derik]]01:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

==Entertainment footer==

Hi David -- I'm working on a project for Wikia to help link the TV wikis together, and encourage people to see this as one big site, rather than a lot of little wikis. I'd like to post this footer at the bottom of the main page.{{w:youngtv}}

The gaming wikis have started a similar project, and they've seen a lot more cross-traffic. Would it be okay to post this at the bottom of the main page here? You could also feel free to edit it, to fit in better with this community. -- [[User:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue">Danny</font>]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 01:46, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

:Hi -- I haven't heard from you about this, so I guess it's okay? I'll add it... Please let me know if there's a problem. Thanks! -- [[User:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue">Danny</font>]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 14:29, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
==Megatron==
Sorry, accidentally reverted Megatron (G1) - have fixed 0_o apologies for that![[User:Bento180|Bento180]] 12:16, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
:The heck did you do, man? It's broken, and I can't successfully reupload it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:00, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
::I think something's screwy with the image server. I've tried resizing some of the embedded images to mess with layout on some articles, and I'm getting broken images.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 14:17, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

== image issues ==

re you able to see the images? They aren't loading for me. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:10, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for helping out with the Robot Heroes page. I'm still new to the whole Wiki thing. :) --[[User:DarkPrime|DarkPrime]]

== "Stolen Prototypes" ==

I was under the impression that we just weren't allowed to use the photos of stolen prototypes. Certainly we can say that they're planned figures, right?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 18:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
: We don't have any information on the wiki from unannounced future toy releases. It's always been that way. (Also, note the header says "ANNOUNCED but uncategorized yadda yadda." Those four were shown at BotCon. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Ah, gotcha. Thanks.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 19:04, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Category: Things that don't exist ==

psst... [[Transformers Wiki:Title blacklist]] --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:I've been trying to tell people that since Angela made it! I've even laid out the instructions on the talk page! -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 17:53, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe he ''likes'' having to repeatedly delete it. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Delete it then.

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2007-11-23T08:01:06Z

64.58.144.10: Have we meet before?

==Re: [[Galvatron (G1)]], [[Transformers (2007)]]==
LISTEN UP FOOL, we are having a little bit of conflict at the moment i dont want that, but my idea's are funny and brawl is devastator, but pleese lets not fight any futher {{unsigned|58.165.241.232|07:02, 5 August 2007}}
:Your the fool, i agree with you, the eye joke is funny, and i like to call brawl Devastator, but ahhhhh that dosent give you the right to create talk pages calling people "lunch box" and "snack pack" now pleese excuse me while i ask for you to be blocked for a year, that should tech you, "lunch box" --[[User:Galvason|Galvason]] 08:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, good luck with that. I doubt anyone is going to ban Rosicrucian at all, much less for a year, for reverting a blatantly racist joke that you repeatedly put into the article. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 09:14, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Some confusion here. Galvason was talking to the anonymous editor who put in said racist joke, and was calling for the banning of that very anonymous editor. He was not calling for Rosicrucian to be banned.
:::People, please sign your talk page entries, and please keep discussion on pages where it is relevant. This particular conversation is veering off track from having anything to do with Rosicrucian at all. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 09:26, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

==Tigatron / Polar Claw==
An anonymous editor recently changed one of your additions to the Tigatron article: [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Tigatron&diff=next&oldid=84302]. I don't really remember the story anymore; your version sounds right to me, but I'm not sure enough of it to make the revert myself. Take a look? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:27, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:Easily done. I've elaborated on the production choices that led to this decision, and the lingering link back to the original character reflected in where Tigatron awakened.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 05:20, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

== Furman ==

Really? I didn't think it was that mean, and the guy does write freaking '''EVERYTHING''' what do you think I should do to change it? Like, what was too snarky about it? --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 00:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
:I would've said that it's a bit exaggerated, but considering the man wrote a freakin' "How to draw Transformers" book when he's not an artist, I'd say 70.190's edit were pretty much on the money. Maybe de-snarkicize them a little but not outright remove them. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:33, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
::Awesome, thank you. Though I really wish that bubble bath joke could have stayed. You're probably right though... (sigh) --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 01:59, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
:::I don't know, I think I knee-jerked a bit. Feel free to add it back in, I won't touch it. See what others think.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 02:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Nah, it's totally cool. It was kinda snarky, and I am an IP after all. Your version reads a lot more professional, and I think the world will survive without my "Simon Furman wrote the instructions on the back of the TF bubble bath" joke. Thanks again. --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 02:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

==[[wikipedia:Pluralis_majestatis|Pluralis majestatis]]==
Fine... We shall keep to the old captions, although we are not amused by them. --[[User:Lrahaman|Lenny]] 19:00, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

==No More Twinkies for [[user:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]]==
k... sorry. I thought I was allowed to have a bit of fun on Teletraan-1. I guess not? Please ask before taking down my stuff. I'll say yes like 99.9% of the time. --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 16:09, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
:Well, I didn't mark it for deletion, and I don't have the power to take it down. That's pretty much ''why'' I asked on the talkpage first rather than slapping a deletion template on it.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 16:16, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
: If you contributed to this wiki ''before'' creating a self-indulgent image-intensive User page which expanded into a separate disambiguation page, we probably wouldn't mind as much. Okay, we'd still mind the separate disambiguation page. That was just ridiculous. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:19, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
::Ouch... Thanks for that lovely incentive to continue contributing. I've been coming to Teletraan-1 for a long time, and finally signed up ''yesterday''. I admit that prior to creating my User pages, I had only contributed only ''one'' insignificant picture to [[True_One|an article]] marked as needing one, but I can't fix every stub in one day! I thought I could help improve this thing and have a little fun at the same time. Maybe I was wrong, but I'm gonna keep trying to contribute... despite all your wonderful hospitality. --[[User:Starcrunch|Starcrunch]] 16:36, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

== Throw a party ==

Hey! Assaulthead the guy that you know is executed for hacking, beating me up and murdering a teacher! Please don't block me if I promise to behave and don't copy my bigger brother that is forever blocked. Hey why you called me spearhead?(Spearhead 04:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC))

==Rartorata==
I noticed an [[:Image:Ratorata_machine.jpg|image]] you uploaded of Rartorata uses a different spelling of his name than the character's article and the dialogue in the scan itself. Was that intentional (why?), or would you mind re-uploading the scan with a corrected filename? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 23:43, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:Sntint, nobody cares about one letter. As long as the filename is descriptive and is unique. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 23:48, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::It's mainly because like most people ''I can't spell the guy's name worth a damn''. But yeah, I noticed it after uploading and figured that this was the one character I could get away with it on.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 23:54, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::<nowiki>*shrug*</nowiki> Okay. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 13:43, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I fixed it. It took me a whole 30 seconds of work. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 14:16, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

== IDW G1 issues ==

Hi, ''Hearts of Steel'' and IDW's ''Beast Wars'' series, while not part of their main ongoing G1 series, are still part of G1 issues published by IDW, and hense should be included in IDW Generation 1 issues. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 15:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
: But the "IDW Generation 1 issues" category is SPECIFICALLY for issues of their main ongoing G1 series. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
::Eh, yeah I guess it's better than making a "IDW outside of the main continuity Generation 1 issues" category. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 16:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
:::As I said in the edit summary, there ''will'' one day be more Evolutions titles. At such a time we can move them over to there.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 16:38, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
And for that matter the Beast Wars issues are their own animal, to the point of getting a distinct [[Beast Wars timeline (IDW)|timeline]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 16:41, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

== stub fixes ==

Changing to the various types of stubs is a good thing. However, while going through, see if the article REALLY is a stub. Many of these seem to be fairly well-filled out articles. Maybe apply the stub to a particular section if it needs it. Thanks. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 01:26, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:As I mentioned on the stub template talkpage, I'm doing this ''entirely'' as just changing one type of stub for another. Otherwise it would be an even more Sisyphean task than it already is. What I'm hoping is that once the stubs are sorted, determining which tags to remove will be easier.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 01:28, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
::Cool, appreciate the work! --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 02:57, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:ItsWalky

2007-11-23T07:54:08Z

64.58.144.10: /* Category: Things that don't exist */

--I'm deeply sorry

=="Deadside"?==

Umm, who? what? I just don't think you're funny, but no, I don't know you and you don't know me. [[User:66.28.139.242|66.28.139.242]] 03:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

==Something I Noticed==

I see that when new users come in - I did this too - one of the first things they start to do is edit out the silly captions and some of the humor from the Wiki. This is mostly stemming from the transition from Wikipedia and other Wikis to Teletraan-1, since most others have strict no-humor. Is there a way to put up some sort of banner in the "Help Contents" guide, that explains, look, we're silly here sometimes?

And, um, that guy below is just funny as hell. [[User:Mirai Gen|Mirai Gen]] 19:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

==Things to say to you==
[[Image:Ttoc.GIF|right|thumb|We approve this message.]]

Just some thing I've been wanting to say to David...

First off, you're a monumental asshole. You have an ego the size of a small planet and it's irritating watching you act like an important SOB when you're basically just a nobody.

Second, your webcomics aren't funny. They're boring tripe that makes Penny Arcade look good(and believe me, Penny Arcade is garbage). Cyanide and Happiness is a funny webcomic, yours is not. Your "jokes" are painful, about like watching Michael Richards yell the n-word as a routine. You don't draw a comic, you draw an opinionated blog. I'm not sure which name suits your crap better, "ShitPacked" or "ShortDicked".

Your liberalism and your love of Indiana get on my nerves. You jab at Mallard Filmore? Yeah, one shitty comic making fun of another shitty comic. Or are you just pissed that his gets in newspapers while you're JUST a webcomic? As to Indiana, I live here, and if it were up to me, the state would be walled off and none of the freaks living there allowed to interact with the rest of the planet. The state is about 3 decades behind the times. But something tells me even you know this otherwise you'd still live here. I sure as hell do not live here by choice and as soon as I can, I'm moving far away from this joke of a state.

And your brand loyalty is typical fandom crap. You have Aaron Archer's rod so far down your throat it's unreal. And Aryan fucktard Michael Bay's rod has apparently joined it. I'd say soemthing abotu Don Murphy but he was born without one. Actually, I can say something- he's Kevin "unfunny asshole" Smith with more body fat. Hasbro didn't give the film to a competent director, just a cheap one. And neither Speilberg or ILM have done anything useful in years. Give WETA, or even Tom Savini a chance and we wouldn't be getting Bionicle bots. You're afraid to not like a Hasbro product. No wonder they don't have to go out of the way to please the "fans"- you'll accept it no matter what. But hey, you personally have been sucking off incompetent British bonehead Simon Furman and his shitty stories for years. There are no gods in Transformers. Unicron was built by a monkey, little man. Furman is dog shit.

And go figure this TF wiki is a joke full of misinformation, insults or outright lies- you're a mod here. You're never right. You're more of an incorrect pompous jerkoff than Defunct is. Right, ban me from editing, as if it would somehow matter, any info you don't agree with is pulled. You only have friends because people feel sorry for you. Me, I have no need. People are a commodity to be used and their wants only get in the way of what I'm out for. Use them and drop them.

Who am I? Go look who added a note about you on Encyclopedia Dramatica's Allspark page if you're not too lazy. As well as past AS, Kalidor, FIRRIB and Hooks entries(the hooks entry especially true). Oh, and just info on white people in general and that idiotic Nintendo Wii. I'm not making it that easy for you.
: Is it my birthday? This stuff ''feeds'' me. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: Duuuuude. Walky may be a dick, but I still ''like'' him for some inexplicable reason. You, on the other hand, are just one sore drama queen.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 17:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: This is some of the most funny stuff I've seen in a while. Comedy PLATINUM. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: Bwa ha ha ha ha. Priceless. I think someone needs to get off the internets for a few minutes. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 02:49, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: Wait, you mean I didn't get drunk and write this? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 05:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: I wish lame puns happened to me. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 20:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

== I thought it was vandalism ==

Just that I read the article and thought it was vandalism from the way it was written. So I accidently reverted it to the old one, which had more of something that seemed like vanderism. Then I realize I am not in wikipeida, but in Transformers wiki. I clicked on a link from Tformers.com and since the two sites look so damn similar, yeah......That explains the humor and why I had to make an account here. Sorry, but I am wishy washy at the moment since I have a term paper due soon and haven't gotten any sleep. Sorry. LOL--[[User:Doomzaber|Doomzaber]] 03:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

== Just kind of curious ==

Is there a limit to your knowledge of Transformers lore, or is it as infinite as the cosmos?

Because damn, do you know a lot.

==You are now an Admin==

Hello ItsWalky, I've made you and Suki Brits admins for this wiki. Thanks for offering to help out! Let me know if there is anything you need help with or can't do. Please see [[Wikicities:Help:Administrators' how-to guide]] for the basics, and let me know if you want more admins added - you two will be fine for now, but more may be needed in time. Thanks again -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] [[User talk:Sannse|(talk)]] 12:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

My liege *kneels*--[[User:OctopusPrime|Octopus Prime- King of the Road!]] 13:45, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Nice April Fools lol [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 14:49, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

...RUN, HE'S GONE MAD WITH POWER!

I know Bodycount was being antagonistic about his changes (not just on the Nemesis Prime entry), but I think blocking him for 2 weeks may have been excessive. We should try to settle editorial conflicts through compromise, like they do at Wikipedia, by rewriting the article to express both points of view and the reasoning behind those views. On the other hand, I
have no idea who he is, aside from a vague feeling that he's an Allsparker. You may be more familiar with his habits than I. Maybe he's likely to just be disruptive. But from what I have seen just here at this site, I think the block was premature. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 17:42, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

MAD WITH POWER!

I Knew BC at Tfans, he was a bit antaganistic to the rabid GeeWuners, but he's a great kitbasher. [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 05:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Bodycount's been banned repeatedly from the Allspark, and from several other boards, as well. He's a textbook troll, and we're better off without him. - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 05:05, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

== There's an issue with the "Recent Changes" page ==

Up at the top of the "recent changes" page where it says "below are the last X chaned in the last Y days as of DATE", for some reason the "DATE" says "$3". --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 14:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Pssy, Walky! You need a http:// on the botcon link on your blog. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:22, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

== The Agenda: Part 1 ==

:Hahaha, the guy whose fault it is I'm here was right behind me, messing with my first edits. How's that for irony? :)
:(I love Shortpacked.) - [[User:Doogles|Doogles]] 21:39, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

== Episode Template Comments ==

Hi ItsWalky. Thanks loads for your feedback. Sorry about the date thing. As for the loss of data between the two templates, reordering each of the groups for order of appearance shouldn't be too difficult, just means watching the episode carefully again (unfortunately, when I did the lists of characters for my own TF site, I didn't consider having them in order of appearance and thus alphabetized them right away). With regards to the difference between major and minor characters, I'm not sure I would quite know where to draw the line on who's what in every TF episode. To me, it would seem to depend if the character was regular, is he major or minor for the whole series, season, or just the episode, or if the character was a guest, I could see it likely being just the episode. Perhaps if I knew what guidline Teletraan-1 was using to determine Major/Minor status, I could think of a way to incorporate it into my template. Thanks again for your feedback. [[User:Telet093|Telet093]] 00:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello again. Just to let you know I've incorporated order of appearance into my test template if you wanted to check it out: [[User:Telet093/The Master Builder]]. [[User:Telet093|Telet093]] 23:50, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
==Cartoon==
Hi - sorry for the home page edit, I was trying to figure out if I added the word "cartoon" at the top of the page, would google figure out that your site is not about power control and liquid transformers :-) [http://wikia.com/wiki/User:Gil Gil]
:Google's not gonna figger it out, no, not until they distinguish between the two in their databases. Believe me, every TF site with google ads has the same problem. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:01, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

== A Question on Mini-Con Entries ==
As I'm hitting the "random page" button, I seem to come up with a Mini-Con page for this or that Mini-Con most of the time. Is there any reason every Mini-Con has its own page? Could they be consolidated on to their respective team pages? This may be a community issue, but I figured an editor the best place to start.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:43, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
: All the ones in Armada and Cybertron, at least, have their own bios and personalities, so that should be enough for a page. I think, in principle, every toyed character should have its own page, whether it be a Nebulan, Mini-Con, Deployer, or what have you. I tend to only use the "Related characters" subsection for fiction-only humans and the like. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

==Question Time Again==
Would it be possible to consolidate the pages such as [[quartex]] and [[cycle]] and whatever else is floating about into just a single "Cybertronian Units of Time" page of some sort? I had no idea a "quartex" existed until I randomly hit the [[Conductors]] page, for instance, but having them all in one place might be helpful, or possibly to rename the page into "Measurements of time" and split off [[Megamile]]?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 05:59, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
: I don't see why we can't have both. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:17, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

== Alot of images seem to be missing ==

many of the images have dissipered, such as the ones on [[neon]]. the image files themselves cive a "can't find on server" error. any idea WTF is up? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:42, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
:Probably just a temporary glitch. Wikia has a lot of them. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:46, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

==Sources==
How does one go about making reference to a patent and a catalog in a footnote on here?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 18:20, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
: Replacing -s with HTML arrow-thingies:
::-ref-[[More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]-/ref-
::And then create a "Footnotes" subheading at the bottom of the page, under which you type:
::-references/-
::That will automatically create a footnote there.
:See [[Ratchet (G1)]] for an example. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
==Lyrian==
Are you seeing the Lyrian.jpg image on her entry? Because I still am not. [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 22:12, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
OK, correction: I ''am'' seeing it when I use Internet Explorer, but not when I use Mozilla Firefox. [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 22:14, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
:I think you need to refresh the page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:21, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

==Sorry?==
Dude, the Seeker cateogry expressely said it was for G1 characters, and it wasn't until now that you decided that the Armada guys counted. Maximals was in Beast Era category, so I just made it more specific. Same for Vehicons. I'm sorry for pissing you off, but you're effectively blaming me for not being psychic. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 21:33, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

== Images fitting ==

I have a wide screen resolution (1280x800), and often times images that are on the same side will start to stack up if there aren't enough lines of text between them, kind of like this:

:img | _______
_______| | img

That's what was happening with the Airazor pics. Would it be better to add in come blank lines? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:18, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
: Well, in Airazor's case, we just had to fill in more summary. She was missing some key episodes, which filled in more text between the two images. On other pages, I dunno, it's a problem with the system, which we'll have to work out, 'cuz I think all images are gonna hafta be lefted if there's storylinks over there. Otherwise it's a mess. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:27, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

== COMPLETE GO-BOTS POWER?!!! ==

Walky, I '''''must''''' have this thing! For [http://chawks.brinkster.net/gb my Go-Bots site]!

PLEEEASE?

{wipes up drool}
: Steve-o's got first dibs, and he'll have it up on his TF coloring book archive whenever he gets the time. I've just now shared the harddrive folder with all the stuff in it so he has access to it, after all these years. I'm slow. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:26, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

::Saw the scans. That's awesome! It's really too bad it never got made. And y'know, I think a Go-Bots cover done in the "DW house style" could actually look super-cools. May I have permission to upload the scans to my site? (I always like to ask.) --[[User:Salt-Man Z|Salt-Man Z]] 20:10, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

==Bureaucrat==
Hi David. Since the original founder of this wiki has been inactive since June 2005, I've made you a bureaucrat here in case there are any trusted community members who need to be made into admins. See [[Wikia:Help:User access levels]] for help with this. I liked your recent [http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20070101.html comic] mentioning the wiki. Perhaps you should link to the wiki as well to encourage more transformers fans to join in. [[w:User:Angela|Angela]] <sup>[[User talk:Angela|talk]]</sup> 00:40, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

== Pretender Grimlock ==

In case you didn't know, Reprolabels makes Pretender Grimlock stickers. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:32, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
: Oooh. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:33, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

== About the delete of the IDW megatron Pic ==

The image illustrate megatron in his IDW form (as well as his alt mode), and it as been (at least) released on the official site. Isn't it all an image need to be. The text here, isn't the important part and is still readable anyway. Here just to prove it's not "stolen" or anything: http://www.idwpublishing.com/newreleases.shtml --[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 14:12, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
: I know it's not stolen. We can probably manage to wait one more day until the actual issue comes out and we can have something of useable size to scan. The image, at the size it was, was useless. (Also, we should avoid having full pages up, unless absolutely necessary. Otherwise it's not exactly fair use.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:16, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

== And the Lord said "DUDE". And it was groovy. ==

For the record, and I know this counts for almost nothing, Willis is the reason I'm here. Yeah, I love wikis, I love Transformers, and I (rather inexplicably) adore the Jumpstarters, but I wouldn't know about Teletraan 1 if not for the blog on Shortpacked!.

So, yeah. That's all I gotta say for now... rawkon, Walkyboy. \m/

:I hate you. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 03:05, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

::What the slag is Shortpacked, and who in the Pit is this Willis? --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 17:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
:::You aren't serious, are you? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 22:13, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

== Pie ==
What exactly is the great importance of Pie? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 21:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
:As the ratio of the circumfrence to the radius of a sphere, it underpins the structure of our universe.
:Of course, some people argue that because no perfect circle exists in out quasi-raster universe, pi is actually nothing that a unique mathematical phenomena, of no consequence ot the real world.
:(These people are communists.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

== disambuig question ==

When a character shares a name with an episode, do both pages get a series tag, or just the episode? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:41, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Are we talking about Chase? He's the only one that wouldn't get a (G1) otherwise, that I can think of... I would tentatively say that having the TF be [[Chase]] and the episode be [[Chase (Armada episode)]] would be fine. Of course, we might need a disambig page to encompass [[Chip Chase]], I dunno. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

== CSS change ==

Hey Walky, I'm requesting a change to the sitewide CSS that you can see at [[MediaWiki_talk:Monobook.css]]

It's Wikipedia's pretty able classes. Wikia (buizarely) comes with ''no'' table classes. We dont' use tables much here, but should we want to, we'd want them to look like this. (And this is the class all the wikipedia-how-to-create-a-table tutorials tell you to use.) The code is unaltered from Wikipedia, so it won't conflict with anything.

Appreciate it if you could port it over for me.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
: Where do I put it? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:07, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
::Oh, sorry, I forgot you hadn't done this before.
::Please append the requested change from the CSS discussion area [[MediaWiki_talk:Monobook.css]] to the end of the actual CSS file [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]], which you can edit but I cannot.
::The lack of these table styles is moderately more pressing than it was when I originally requested them, since we now have an article that actually uses tables -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:16, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

== online update ==

When you talk about online updates, maybe a direct link should be required (if it's official and everyhing and stuf...).

:... for what? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe I have I have missunderstood, but when he talk about "online update", he talk about material that have been put on official sites or something, and therefore, for completition sake, a link to it would be appropriate. If I have get it wrong, or if those sites require payment to be accessible, then forget what I say...
:::It is indeed pay content for the Fan Club. A direct link would not work. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Alright.

== Scale question ==
Hi there, this is PacifistPrime, the originator of the new [[Scale]] article. Thanks very much for your contributions. Just one question though; you've changed some of the estimated "real world" heights for characters like Prime and Bumblebee, stating that they "have been calculated". I don't mean to disagree with you ''per se'' (although I must admit your figures do instinctively strike me as unlikely, but that's just my guestimate), but I was wondering if you could please source those figures. Not so much in the article itself (believe me, I'm very sick of the bluenoses over at Wikipedia always being on peoples' case about that), but rather just for my own personal interest. I've actually wanted for some time now to set up a project that would use the toys and specs for the real vehicles to calculate how big most of the pre-Movie G1s would be. But if someone has already done this, I'd love to know their results, and I'd be particularly interested in their method. Can you give me some directions? Please respond in my own talk page, if you don't mind. Hope to hear from you, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/6db411e03e75a342?dmode=source LV once figured it out using real vehicle lengths and stuff.]
:Also, a trend in the article seems to be overunderestimating the size of the Transformers in the cartoon, for example, saying that Optimus Prime would "only" be 20 feet tall, versus the giant size you believe he is. We've got lots of model sheets available to us that show that Optimus Prime was drawn to be 15-ish feet, or 3 Spikes tall. Now, the comic tended to draw the Transformers much, much larger than that, but in the cartoon, they were kinda dinky, though that's of course not incredibly consistent. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

== ''The Enemy Within Part 2'' ==

I'm wanting to start writing an article for ''The Enemy Within'', but there is one slight problem. My scans of the issue (saved from Seibertron and TCA before the comic scans were taken down) are missing pages 9 and 10 (the last two color pages) from part 2, and from what I've been able to dig up from the Wayback Machine, the scans used on the various sites never had those two pages (or a few from ''The Man Of Iron'' UK printing, and page 8 from UK #6). I'm not sure if this is kosher, but any idea where I might be able to "acquire" those two pages? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 19:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
: Gimme an email address. I may have them. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:48, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
::fortressmaximus05 (at) verizon.net --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:06, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

== Blog not wiki ==
Hey man, that's totally fair enough; realise I was on a bit of a rave there about Masterpiece Megs. Still, you didn't have to be impolite about it. Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]]. P.S. I wouldn't be caught dead writing a blog. Got much better things to do with my time. Like edit this wiki. ;-)
:Me again. I seem to stuff up on your watch pretty regularly, huh? Sorry about the E.J.Su cover thing; I honestly thought that WAS him for some reason. So much so, in fact, that I was wondering myself why the style seemed a little inconsistent with his other work...! Do you know who ''did'' do it? I expect was it the same dude who did the "Uncle Prime" recruitment poster. Later, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:: I had already immediately edited the file to note the name of the artist. It's right there, man. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== one more Dinobot question ==

I'm wanting to try the part swap you did with your BWX Dinobots, but have one problem. Is there a way to remove the upper half of the molds upper arms without messing up the pegs and holes? Years ago, I removed those parts from my FoxKids Dinobot, but after re-assembling him, the arms would often pop off while rotating the shoulder swivel. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:09, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

The bicep piece, you mean? I haven't had any trouble with it. I just yanked it out of its socket, unscrewed it from the elbow, swapped, and voila. Worked same as before. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:32, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

== Just Sayin' Hi ==

Ok, this is embarassing.

I've been on the TFWiki a while now, and on a lot of discussion pages I've posted on, you're the first or second person to answer a question or comment on my post.

I also read Shortpacked and didn't know you were... well, you.

It was seemingly at random I clicked on your link to see your page and, lo and behold, you're the reason for so much joy and pain, the grand well of Transformers knowledge, the de facto LEGENDARY user who knows how many punctuation marks are in the title of seemingly random comics... from EUROPE.

I simply want to say that it's an honor for me to be able to collaborate with you on this project. Transformers has always been a big part of my childhood, and now my adulthood. I'm starting up the UniCronicles (see my page for more details) and yours, along with several other webcomics I read, have inspired me. I thank you for Shortpacked, your contribution to Teletraan I, and, of course, for making fun of that ditzy purple skank. I mean, am I the only one who noticed she was like 3 million years the senior of most of the ''Cybertron'' cast? Granny's got her freak on.

Anyway, keep making teh funniez. I'll keep reading them. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:55, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

: Allow me to translate - SLURRRRRRP SLURP SLURP SLURP SLURRRRRRRRRRP mmm SLURRP SLURP SLURP please not in my hair SLURP SLURP SLURP [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 18:42, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
::You know, normally I try to keep things clean, organized, and polite, especially when it comes to something like this. But just this once, I'm going to say it. Fuck all y'all. I don't give a flying rat's ass about what you think about me, so go fornicate yourself with a barbed iron rod. Just because I admire one man's work doesn't mean I'm some mindless suck up, and you would let Aaron Archer assfuck you (no lube). [[User:Dracokanji|Dracokanji]] 12:57, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::: It's okay. Nobody ever listens to Hooper. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:01, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

::::Oh well. So then. Thoughts on Alternators Ravage (Jaguar XK-9)? [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:11, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

::Allow me to translate - SOMEONE PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEE PLEASE HEY LOOK WACKY HOOP LOOK LOOK HEY LOOK MEEE SO LONELY --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:46, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

:::If somebody kills his lonely, can we get a necromancer?--[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:07, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

:And Hoop's comment was ''so'' unfair. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:49, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

== Transformers Chess Set ==

Do you know anything about the upcoming Tranformers Chess set? All I know is that Autobots are gold, and Decepticons are silver. And what should we do about an article? Just call it "Chess" or "Transformers Chess"? Plus, can anyone confirm whether or not Bumblebee is the pawn for the Autobot side? [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 02:57, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
: Well, there's going to be two sets, one that's really expensive and in color and featuring show-accurate G1 dudes -- and the one you speak of, which is movie-related. Do we know what they say on the box, yet? I suppose we could have one article at [[Chess set]] or something that talks about all kinds of TF chess sets. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:38, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
:: Unless there's something that really makes the sets remarkable or stand out as deserving individual mention, I move for one article about all Transformers versions of Chess, with a note about [[fulstasis]]. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:31, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
::I think just [[Chess]] is a better title than [[Chess set]]. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:45, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
:::I suppose a single page would be in order. Even if they are remarkable and awesome and whatever, there's still little to be said, other than a list of who is what piece and where/when it's available. I have to agree with calling it [[Chess]], thought. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 07:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

1 page.--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 19:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

P.S. in the movie set, pawns are autobot symbols. BB might be in the G1 set.--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 19:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

== Please remove (or at least justify) block ==
Um,
Excuse me, but... what the heck? (Block ID #49)

Why on earth have you blocked me? VANDALISM? Are you kidding?!?

Is this about the two snarky little comments spilled over from the Movie-G1-IDW categorisation micro-debate? i.e., the ones that were already deleated from the Movie pages well over a week ago and are thus no longer an issue at all? Have you seriously blocked me over that? Good lord...

Okay, maybe those TWO very SMALL comments were SLIGHTLY out of order, but to call it
vandalism...! This isn't Wikipedia, mate. If you wanna start policing sarcastic
comments and POV material then you've got a loooong task ahead of you on this
site, don't you think? Blocking me for those comments hardly seems rational.

That you wanted to delete them? Fine. But to BLOCK me for it? C'mon; get real.

I am a comparatively new user, but one in good standing who has contributed several articles and is polite in all discussions at every turn, far more so than some other users here that I've observed. I've noticed that on more than one occasion you have had somewhat grumpy reactions to things I have to say, so I'm more than a little suspicious that this block isn't some kind of vindictive action on your part, as you seemingly have some kind of problem with me, although I can't imagine on what basis.

This block is clearly absurd, and not at all in the spirit of fun and good
humour I've come to love about this site. I don't see how you can reasonably justify this action, and I am also complaining about this to your fellow adminstrator.

Yours indignantly, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
: For your information, I banned you right BEFORE I deleted your vandalism. It wasn't a week-later thing, no. And, yes, if you're going to end a long Talk Page discussion in which you were overwhelmingly outvoted by editing '''the articles themselves''' with retaliatory comments, then, yes, that's vandalism. Certainly, if that's going to be the nature of your contributions here, then you don't belong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

::With all due respect this is a massive overraction. I'm prepared to apologise to anyone you want me to, but you seem to be attributing all kinds of deviant, troublemaking behaviour to me that is simply NOT truthfully accurate. Don't take my word for it: please look at my history of contribution and discussion with other users. I've always been scrupulously polite and have never gotten into an edit war with anyone.

::So, Okay, yes, if you really want me to say it: I DID A BAD THING. I'm sorry. Don't you guys have some kind of strike system? To permanently ban me over this small piece of sarcasm really seems excessive, don't you think?

::[[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:::You're not permanently banned! Steve-o says it was for three months, but I don't think I would have done it for that long on purpose. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:00, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Stereo is annoying. Can we pick a talk page and stick with it? (I nominate this one.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::Regardless, I've unblocked you for the three months and reblocked you for an additional week starting today, as I intended to block for two weeks. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:03, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, dude. You seem to be a step ahead of me. I'm not trying to foul you up. Please feel free to delete my erroneous edits. I was trying to say that G2 Breakdown (the AM) was unofficial. Just hadn't gotten to it yet!--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 03:22, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== DS Pics ==
Question for you since you've got the Autobots DS card- Does it have the USS Seaspray docked in Tranquility's harbor in the Autobots version?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 03:32, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
: Yeah! Heh. I didn't notice that, but I see the name now. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:45, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:: Probably old news, but there's an available mode meant as a Hoist homage too. -[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 16:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

==Bobby Bolivia Trivia==
Wow, you're right. I totally misinterpreted that. To be fair (shift blame) the same bit of trivia on Bumblebee's page wasn't as clear at the time it was written. So..um.. yeah. But you know, now that it's evident that they kinda paid exactly what it was worth, I fail to see how that bit of trivia is even relevant to the article now.
It should probably just go altogether. [[User:Atomic spaceman|Atomic spaceman]] 14:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

==Fandom page==
Listen, hate to bother you, but there is ''massive'' edit war going on at [[Fandom]]. Could you please just semi-protect (or totally protect) the page while people try to figue out what to do? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 19:41, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

==BANNED==

What the hell did I do to warrant a ban, exactly? As far as I'm aware, I don't even think I broke any rules, and if I did, an official warning would be appropriate. I received no such warning. I was not here for trolling and you know that - you use that bullshit excuse to get people to ignore arguments you can't handle. But you, personally, who made this decision, know I'm not a troll.

This is fucking low. I had little enough respect for you down to your ranting against the fanbase, Willis, but this is a whole new level of buggery. If you're going to use your comic to rant against and discredit people you don't like, the least you can do is suck it up when people rant at you back, and not act like a control-freak child.

I really don't think you're aware of your own actions anymore.
*Do the words [[Wikipedia:WP:NPA|no personal attacks]] mean anything to you? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:: Do the words "warning before ban" mean anything to you? Rulemongering doesn't justify a decision anyway, since Walky is one of the people making the rules. There were plenty of personal attacks leveled at me, but I did not report them officially.

::I really find it hard to believe that you think it's completely on a rational level of discourse to claim that the comic strip I draw is about child pornography. If I'm not mistaken about your identity, you've been banned from almost every single Transformers web board you've had an acquaintance with, and I'm only doing this place a favor by getting rid of you. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

::: That's not an excuse. I will openly admit I HAVE been banned from several forums, but only because I repeatedly opposed the staff on each and every one of them; and with good cause, they all have roughly the same problem. People bully others either into liking the movie or to agree with the kind of views you promote - and since nobody can directly attack or discredit anyone, these people(and you are) are left to their methods.
::: For your current decision to be validated, the admins of those boards, boards which are influenced in turn by your anti-fan attitude, would have to be near 100% correct in their decisions, and those decisions would have to occur within a context that would map exactly onto here. Any rational moderator does not base their decisions so much off performance on other boards, especially when it's not even a messageboard they're operating. Two different media. I have openly said I despise all active Transformers boards for their level of authoritarianism, yet level of tolerance towards the pushing of certain viewpoints.

::: Not to mention that you're still operating under the fallacy of Appeal to Majority - that alone means I shouldn't really even have to counter you.

::: And don't even use the "CHILD PORNOGRAPHY" thing as an excuse. Again, any rational moderator would warn several times before a ban, I personally reversed that edit even though it was obviously intended to be a joke as anyone reading this knows what pile'o'bile already is. You have no justification for what you did, but your ego is too big to realise you can actually do wrong with your power. You'll never admit it, but I wouldn't be surprised if some part of you is pissed that I defeated some of your ramblings, whether they were directly written by you or encouraged by you, it's still the kind of guff you normally blew, and I managed to defeat it. You, and the mods of the big sites will always have your ban buttons - but you will NEVER be able to justify your actions to me. That's how I know that I'm in the right, at least in situations like this - solidly backed justification is almost always absent.
:::: Personal attacks + deleting comments in response to you = banno --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:::: P.S. Sign your posts. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

::::: I have never intentionally deleted comments in response to me. I just moved one recently as it was in the middle of a paragraph of text. Not to mention that happened after you banned my original IP. Personal attacks alone are not grounds enough for a ban, especially when you're doing an awful, awful lot to be mercilessly torn into.
Need I point out that once again, you are unable to defend yourself properly? When does the "You're insane?" come? Ganging up of all your little friends since a majority always means you're right?
Do you even realise what a fascist shithead you sound like? Just because you're an admin of a place doesn't give you a free pass to be a dick with it. There's a difference between what you can do and what you should do that you don't seem to have learned yet.

[[User:67.159.44.88]]

: YOU BAN PEOPLE BECAUSE ****YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE

TRUTH****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111twelve FUCKING FASCIST PIGCOP NAZI WIKIPEDO '''ASSHOLE''' [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:32, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

:: My gosh, now that I have seen someone mock the notion, it MUST be untrue. Please, where can I learn these 1337 debating skills?

:::Dude, I've been banned from twice as many forums as you, guaranfuckingteed, but they still let me post here because I'm not as goddamn retarded as you are. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:34, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

:::: And can you demonstrate exactly how I'm more retarded than you? Or are you just, Walky style, dropping weighted terms to discredit someone's point of view without even trying?

:::::1. Hoop doesn't delete other people's comments on talk pages. 2. He actually signs his posts, which you've been asked to do many times, but haven't caught on. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:40, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

:::::: I didn't delete anything. If I did, it was an accident because someone posted right in the middle of text it wasn't meant to be in the middle of. Not signing my posts doesn't make me retarded since it's blatant when I'm saying something. --[[User:67.159.44.88]]

Actually - come to think of it, you make fun of the idea that anyone running a site can be Nazi, yet you still mention you got banned from many forums. Does that perhaps mean that you genuinely got banned for being an asshole and not opposing the staff/local clique like I did?

:''any rational moderator would warn several times before a ban''
:Not true, some things are auto-ban. I don't think you ''did'' any of them, but I'm just saying.
:Dude- you got an expedited ban because you showed no signs of contrition, argued every point, used personal insults, refused to sign your posts even when '''repeatedly asked to''' (I had to go back into history and dig out which incoherent chunks of text where yours, because the posts weren't hierarchied properly so the debate was really hard to follow. This is why signin posts is important dumbfuck.)
:And ultimately you got banned because you were making a major nuisance of yourself in ''without'' any correlating '''contribution''' to justify keeping you around. You're a negative. You edited 3 articles- Fandom, Shortpacking and Ruined Forever- and ''all' of those edits got reverted because they either flames or crappy jokes that make the articles ''worse''. Even if I were to (generously) believe you didn't intend to start a fight, you picked the 3 flamebaitiest articles you could find and masturbated across them. ''Allah forfend'' you should write an ''episode summary'' or something.
:Unrelated- Walky can Talk:Fandom be semi-protected instead of full? Loserbot isn't registered. -[[User:Derik|Derik]]01:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

==Entertainment footer==

Hi David -- I'm working on a project for Wikia to help link the TV wikis together, and encourage people to see this as one big site, rather than a lot of little wikis. I'd like to post this footer at the bottom of the main page.{{w:youngtv}}

The gaming wikis have started a similar project, and they've seen a lot more cross-traffic. Would it be okay to post this at the bottom of the main page here? You could also feel free to edit it, to fit in better with this community. -- [[User:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue">Danny</font>]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 01:46, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

:Hi -- I haven't heard from you about this, so I guess it's okay? I'll add it... Please let me know if there's a problem. Thanks! -- [[User:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue">Danny</font>]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 14:29, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
==Megatron==
Sorry, accidentally reverted Megatron (G1) - have fixed 0_o apologies for that![[User:Bento180|Bento180]] 12:16, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
:The heck did you do, man? It's broken, and I can't successfully reupload it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:00, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
::I think something's screwy with the image server. I've tried resizing some of the embedded images to mess with layout on some articles, and I'm getting broken images.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 14:17, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

== image issues ==

re you able to see the images? They aren't loading for me. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:10, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for helping out with the Robot Heroes page. I'm still new to the whole Wiki thing. :) --[[User:DarkPrime|DarkPrime]]

== "Stolen Prototypes" ==

I was under the impression that we just weren't allowed to use the photos of stolen prototypes. Certainly we can say that they're planned figures, right?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 18:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
: We don't have any information on the wiki from unannounced future toy releases. It's always been that way. (Also, note the header says "ANNOUNCED but uncategorized yadda yadda." Those four were shown at BotCon. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Ah, gotcha. Thanks.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 19:04, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Category: Things that don't exist ==

psst... [[Transformers Wiki:Title blacklist]] --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:I've been trying to tell people that since Angela made it! I've even laid out the instructions on the talk page! -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 17:53, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe he ''likes'' having to repeatedly delete it. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

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--I'm deeply sorry

=="Deadside"?==

Umm, who? what? I just don't think you're funny, but no, I don't know you and you don't know me. [[User:66.28.139.242|66.28.139.242]] 03:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

==Something I Noticed==

I see that when new users come in - I did this too - one of the first things they start to do is edit out the silly captions and some of the humor from the Wiki. This is mostly stemming from the transition from Wikipedia and other Wikis to Teletraan-1, since most others have strict no-humor. Is there a way to put up some sort of banner in the "Help Contents" guide, that explains, look, we're silly here sometimes?

And, um, that guy below is just funny as hell. [[User:Mirai Gen|Mirai Gen]] 19:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

==Things to say to you==
[[Image:Ttoc.GIF|right|thumb|We approve this message.]]

Just some thing I've been wanting to say to David...

First off, you're a monumental asshole. You have an ego the size of a small planet and it's irritating watching you act like an important SOB when you're basically just a nobody.

Second, your webcomics aren't funny. They're boring tripe that makes Penny Arcade look good(and believe me, Penny Arcade is garbage). Cyanide and Happiness is a funny webcomic, yours is not. Your "jokes" are painful, about like watching Michael Richards yell the n-word as a routine. You don't draw a comic, you draw an opinionated blog. I'm not sure which name suits your crap better, "ShitPacked" or "ShortDicked".

Your liberalism and your love of Indiana get on my nerves. You jab at Mallard Filmore? Yeah, one shitty comic making fun of another shitty comic. Or are you just pissed that his gets in newspapers while you're JUST a webcomic? As to Indiana, I live here, and if it were up to me, the state would be walled off and none of the freaks living there allowed to interact with the rest of the planet. The state is about 3 decades behind the times. But something tells me even you know this otherwise you'd still live here. I sure as hell do not live here by choice and as soon as I can, I'm moving far away from this joke of a state.

And your brand loyalty is typical fandom crap. You have Aaron Archer's rod so far down your throat it's unreal. And Aryan fucktard Michael Bay's rod has apparently joined it. I'd say soemthing abotu Don Murphy but he was born without one. Actually, I can say something- he's Kevin "unfunny asshole" Smith with more body fat. Hasbro didn't give the film to a competent director, just a cheap one. And neither Speilberg or ILM have done anything useful in years. Give WETA, or even Tom Savini a chance and we wouldn't be getting Bionicle bots. You're afraid to not like a Hasbro product. No wonder they don't have to go out of the way to please the "fans"- you'll accept it no matter what. But hey, you personally have been sucking off incompetent British bonehead Simon Furman and his shitty stories for years. There are no gods in Transformers. Unicron was built by a monkey, little man. Furman is dog shit.

And go figure this TF wiki is a joke full of misinformation, insults or outright lies- you're a mod here. You're never right. You're more of an incorrect pompous jerkoff than Defunct is. Right, ban me from editing, as if it would somehow matter, any info you don't agree with is pulled. You only have friends because people feel sorry for you. Me, I have no need. People are a commodity to be used and their wants only get in the way of what I'm out for. Use them and drop them.

Who am I? Go look who added a note about you on Encyclopedia Dramatica's Allspark page if you're not too lazy. As well as past AS, Kalidor, FIRRIB and Hooks entries(the hooks entry especially true). Oh, and just info on white people in general and that idiotic Nintendo Wii. I'm not making it that easy for you.
: Is it my birthday? This stuff ''feeds'' me. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: Duuuuude. Walky may be a dick, but I still ''like'' him for some inexplicable reason. You, on the other hand, are just one sore drama queen.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 17:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: This is some of the most funny stuff I've seen in a while. Comedy PLATINUM. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: Bwa ha ha ha ha. Priceless. I think someone needs to get off the internets for a few minutes. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 02:49, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: Wait, you mean I didn't get drunk and write this? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 05:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: I wish lame puns happened to me. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 20:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

== I thought it was vandalism ==

Just that I read the article and thought it was vandalism from the way it was written. So I accidently reverted it to the old one, which had more of something that seemed like vanderism. Then I realize I am not in wikipeida, but in Transformers wiki. I clicked on a link from Tformers.com and since the two sites look so damn similar, yeah......That explains the humor and why I had to make an account here. Sorry, but I am wishy washy at the moment since I have a term paper due soon and haven't gotten any sleep. Sorry. LOL--[[User:Doomzaber|Doomzaber]] 03:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

== Just kind of curious ==

Is there a limit to your knowledge of Transformers lore, or is it as infinite as the cosmos?

Because damn, do you know a lot.

==You are now an Admin==

Hello ItsWalky, I've made you and Suki Brits admins for this wiki. Thanks for offering to help out! Let me know if there is anything you need help with or can't do. Please see [[Wikicities:Help:Administrators' how-to guide]] for the basics, and let me know if you want more admins added - you two will be fine for now, but more may be needed in time. Thanks again -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] [[User talk:Sannse|(talk)]] 12:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

My liege *kneels*--[[User:OctopusPrime|Octopus Prime- King of the Road!]] 13:45, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Nice April Fools lol [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 14:49, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

...RUN, HE'S GONE MAD WITH POWER!

I know Bodycount was being antagonistic about his changes (not just on the Nemesis Prime entry), but I think blocking him for 2 weeks may have been excessive. We should try to settle editorial conflicts through compromise, like they do at Wikipedia, by rewriting the article to express both points of view and the reasoning behind those views. On the other hand, I
have no idea who he is, aside from a vague feeling that he's an Allsparker. You may be more familiar with his habits than I. Maybe he's likely to just be disruptive. But from what I have seen just here at this site, I think the block was premature. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 17:42, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

MAD WITH POWER!

I Knew BC at Tfans, he was a bit antaganistic to the rabid GeeWuners, but he's a great kitbasher. [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 05:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Bodycount's been banned repeatedly from the Allspark, and from several other boards, as well. He's a textbook troll, and we're better off without him. - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 05:05, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

== There's an issue with the "Recent Changes" page ==

Up at the top of the "recent changes" page where it says "below are the last X chaned in the last Y days as of DATE", for some reason the "DATE" says "$3". --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 14:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Pssy, Walky! You need a http:// on the botcon link on your blog. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:22, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

== The Agenda: Part 1 ==

:Hahaha, the guy whose fault it is I'm here was right behind me, messing with my first edits. How's that for irony? :)
:(I love Shortpacked.) - [[User:Doogles|Doogles]] 21:39, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

== Episode Template Comments ==

Hi ItsWalky. Thanks loads for your feedback. Sorry about the date thing. As for the loss of data between the two templates, reordering each of the groups for order of appearance shouldn't be too difficult, just means watching the episode carefully again (unfortunately, when I did the lists of characters for my own TF site, I didn't consider having them in order of appearance and thus alphabetized them right away). With regards to the difference between major and minor characters, I'm not sure I would quite know where to draw the line on who's what in every TF episode. To me, it would seem to depend if the character was regular, is he major or minor for the whole series, season, or just the episode, or if the character was a guest, I could see it likely being just the episode. Perhaps if I knew what guidline Teletraan-1 was using to determine Major/Minor status, I could think of a way to incorporate it into my template. Thanks again for your feedback. [[User:Telet093|Telet093]] 00:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello again. Just to let you know I've incorporated order of appearance into my test template if you wanted to check it out: [[User:Telet093/The Master Builder]]. [[User:Telet093|Telet093]] 23:50, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
==Cartoon==
Hi - sorry for the home page edit, I was trying to figure out if I added the word "cartoon" at the top of the page, would google figure out that your site is not about power control and liquid transformers :-) [http://wikia.com/wiki/User:Gil Gil]
:Google's not gonna figger it out, no, not until they distinguish between the two in their databases. Believe me, every TF site with google ads has the same problem. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:01, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

== A Question on Mini-Con Entries ==
As I'm hitting the "random page" button, I seem to come up with a Mini-Con page for this or that Mini-Con most of the time. Is there any reason every Mini-Con has its own page? Could they be consolidated on to their respective team pages? This may be a community issue, but I figured an editor the best place to start.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:43, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
: All the ones in Armada and Cybertron, at least, have their own bios and personalities, so that should be enough for a page. I think, in principle, every toyed character should have its own page, whether it be a Nebulan, Mini-Con, Deployer, or what have you. I tend to only use the "Related characters" subsection for fiction-only humans and the like. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

==Question Time Again==
Would it be possible to consolidate the pages such as [[quartex]] and [[cycle]] and whatever else is floating about into just a single "Cybertronian Units of Time" page of some sort? I had no idea a "quartex" existed until I randomly hit the [[Conductors]] page, for instance, but having them all in one place might be helpful, or possibly to rename the page into "Measurements of time" and split off [[Megamile]]?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 05:59, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
: I don't see why we can't have both. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:17, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

== Alot of images seem to be missing ==

many of the images have dissipered, such as the ones on [[neon]]. the image files themselves cive a "can't find on server" error. any idea WTF is up? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:42, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
:Probably just a temporary glitch. Wikia has a lot of them. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:46, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

==Sources==
How does one go about making reference to a patent and a catalog in a footnote on here?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 18:20, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
: Replacing -s with HTML arrow-thingies:
::-ref-[[More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]-/ref-
::And then create a "Footnotes" subheading at the bottom of the page, under which you type:
::-references/-
::That will automatically create a footnote there.
:See [[Ratchet (G1)]] for an example. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
==Lyrian==
Are you seeing the Lyrian.jpg image on her entry? Because I still am not. [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 22:12, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
OK, correction: I ''am'' seeing it when I use Internet Explorer, but not when I use Mozilla Firefox. [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 22:14, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
:I think you need to refresh the page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:21, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

==Sorry?==
Dude, the Seeker cateogry expressely said it was for G1 characters, and it wasn't until now that you decided that the Armada guys counted. Maximals was in Beast Era category, so I just made it more specific. Same for Vehicons. I'm sorry for pissing you off, but you're effectively blaming me for not being psychic. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 21:33, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

== Images fitting ==

I have a wide screen resolution (1280x800), and often times images that are on the same side will start to stack up if there aren't enough lines of text between them, kind of like this:

:img | _______
_______| | img

That's what was happening with the Airazor pics. Would it be better to add in come blank lines? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:18, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
: Well, in Airazor's case, we just had to fill in more summary. She was missing some key episodes, which filled in more text between the two images. On other pages, I dunno, it's a problem with the system, which we'll have to work out, 'cuz I think all images are gonna hafta be lefted if there's storylinks over there. Otherwise it's a mess. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:27, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

== COMPLETE GO-BOTS POWER?!!! ==

Walky, I '''''must''''' have this thing! For [http://chawks.brinkster.net/gb my Go-Bots site]!

PLEEEASE?

{wipes up drool}
: Steve-o's got first dibs, and he'll have it up on his TF coloring book archive whenever he gets the time. I've just now shared the harddrive folder with all the stuff in it so he has access to it, after all these years. I'm slow. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:26, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

::Saw the scans. That's awesome! It's really too bad it never got made. And y'know, I think a Go-Bots cover done in the "DW house style" could actually look super-cools. May I have permission to upload the scans to my site? (I always like to ask.) --[[User:Salt-Man Z|Salt-Man Z]] 20:10, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

==Bureaucrat==
Hi David. Since the original founder of this wiki has been inactive since June 2005, I've made you a bureaucrat here in case there are any trusted community members who need to be made into admins. See [[Wikia:Help:User access levels]] for help with this. I liked your recent [http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20070101.html comic] mentioning the wiki. Perhaps you should link to the wiki as well to encourage more transformers fans to join in. [[w:User:Angela|Angela]] <sup>[[User talk:Angela|talk]]</sup> 00:40, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

== Pretender Grimlock ==

In case you didn't know, Reprolabels makes Pretender Grimlock stickers. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:32, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
: Oooh. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:33, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

== About the delete of the IDW megatron Pic ==

The image illustrate megatron in his IDW form (as well as his alt mode), and it as been (at least) released on the official site. Isn't it all an image need to be. The text here, isn't the important part and is still readable anyway. Here just to prove it's not "stolen" or anything: http://www.idwpublishing.com/newreleases.shtml --[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 14:12, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
: I know it's not stolen. We can probably manage to wait one more day until the actual issue comes out and we can have something of useable size to scan. The image, at the size it was, was useless. (Also, we should avoid having full pages up, unless absolutely necessary. Otherwise it's not exactly fair use.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:16, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

== And the Lord said "DUDE". And it was groovy. ==

For the record, and I know this counts for almost nothing, Willis is the reason I'm here. Yeah, I love wikis, I love Transformers, and I (rather inexplicably) adore the Jumpstarters, but I wouldn't know about Teletraan 1 if not for the blog on Shortpacked!.

So, yeah. That's all I gotta say for now... rawkon, Walkyboy. \m/

:I hate you. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 03:05, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

::What the slag is Shortpacked, and who in the Pit is this Willis? --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 17:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
:::You aren't serious, are you? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 22:13, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

== Pie ==
What exactly is the great importance of Pie? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 21:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
:As the ratio of the circumfrence to the radius of a sphere, it underpins the structure of our universe.
:Of course, some people argue that because no perfect circle exists in out quasi-raster universe, pi is actually nothing that a unique mathematical phenomena, of no consequence ot the real world.
:(These people are communists.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

== disambuig question ==

When a character shares a name with an episode, do both pages get a series tag, or just the episode? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:41, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Are we talking about Chase? He's the only one that wouldn't get a (G1) otherwise, that I can think of... I would tentatively say that having the TF be [[Chase]] and the episode be [[Chase (Armada episode)]] would be fine. Of course, we might need a disambig page to encompass [[Chip Chase]], I dunno. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

== CSS change ==

Hey Walky, I'm requesting a change to the sitewide CSS that you can see at [[MediaWiki_talk:Monobook.css]]

It's Wikipedia's pretty able classes. Wikia (buizarely) comes with ''no'' table classes. We dont' use tables much here, but should we want to, we'd want them to look like this. (And this is the class all the wikipedia-how-to-create-a-table tutorials tell you to use.) The code is unaltered from Wikipedia, so it won't conflict with anything.

Appreciate it if you could port it over for me.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
: Where do I put it? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:07, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
::Oh, sorry, I forgot you hadn't done this before.
::Please append the requested change from the CSS discussion area [[MediaWiki_talk:Monobook.css]] to the end of the actual CSS file [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]], which you can edit but I cannot.
::The lack of these table styles is moderately more pressing than it was when I originally requested them, since we now have an article that actually uses tables -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:16, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

== online update ==

When you talk about online updates, maybe a direct link should be required (if it's official and everyhing and stuf...).

:... for what? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe I have I have missunderstood, but when he talk about "online update", he talk about material that have been put on official sites or something, and therefore, for completition sake, a link to it would be appropriate. If I have get it wrong, or if those sites require payment to be accessible, then forget what I say...
:::It is indeed pay content for the Fan Club. A direct link would not work. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Alright.

== Scale question ==
Hi there, this is PacifistPrime, the originator of the new [[Scale]] article. Thanks very much for your contributions. Just one question though; you've changed some of the estimated "real world" heights for characters like Prime and Bumblebee, stating that they "have been calculated". I don't mean to disagree with you ''per se'' (although I must admit your figures do instinctively strike me as unlikely, but that's just my guestimate), but I was wondering if you could please source those figures. Not so much in the article itself (believe me, I'm very sick of the bluenoses over at Wikipedia always being on peoples' case about that), but rather just for my own personal interest. I've actually wanted for some time now to set up a project that would use the toys and specs for the real vehicles to calculate how big most of the pre-Movie G1s would be. But if someone has already done this, I'd love to know their results, and I'd be particularly interested in their method. Can you give me some directions? Please respond in my own talk page, if you don't mind. Hope to hear from you, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/6db411e03e75a342?dmode=source LV once figured it out using real vehicle lengths and stuff.]
:Also, a trend in the article seems to be overunderestimating the size of the Transformers in the cartoon, for example, saying that Optimus Prime would "only" be 20 feet tall, versus the giant size you believe he is. We've got lots of model sheets available to us that show that Optimus Prime was drawn to be 15-ish feet, or 3 Spikes tall. Now, the comic tended to draw the Transformers much, much larger than that, but in the cartoon, they were kinda dinky, though that's of course not incredibly consistent. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

== ''The Enemy Within Part 2'' ==

I'm wanting to start writing an article for ''The Enemy Within'', but there is one slight problem. My scans of the issue (saved from Seibertron and TCA before the comic scans were taken down) are missing pages 9 and 10 (the last two color pages) from part 2, and from what I've been able to dig up from the Wayback Machine, the scans used on the various sites never had those two pages (or a few from ''The Man Of Iron'' UK printing, and page 8 from UK #6). I'm not sure if this is kosher, but any idea where I might be able to "acquire" those two pages? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 19:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
: Gimme an email address. I may have them. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:48, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
::fortressmaximus05 (at) verizon.net --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:06, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

== Blog not wiki ==
Hey man, that's totally fair enough; realise I was on a bit of a rave there about Masterpiece Megs. Still, you didn't have to be impolite about it. Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]]. P.S. I wouldn't be caught dead writing a blog. Got much better things to do with my time. Like edit this wiki. ;-)
:Me again. I seem to stuff up on your watch pretty regularly, huh? Sorry about the E.J.Su cover thing; I honestly thought that WAS him for some reason. So much so, in fact, that I was wondering myself why the style seemed a little inconsistent with his other work...! Do you know who ''did'' do it? I expect was it the same dude who did the "Uncle Prime" recruitment poster. Later, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:: I had already immediately edited the file to note the name of the artist. It's right there, man. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

== one more Dinobot question ==

I'm wanting to try the part swap you did with your BWX Dinobots, but have one problem. Is there a way to remove the upper half of the molds upper arms without messing up the pegs and holes? Years ago, I removed those parts from my FoxKids Dinobot, but after re-assembling him, the arms would often pop off while rotating the shoulder swivel. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:09, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

The bicep piece, you mean? I haven't had any trouble with it. I just yanked it out of its socket, unscrewed it from the elbow, swapped, and voila. Worked same as before. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:32, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

== Just Sayin' Hi ==

Ok, this is embarassing.

I've been on the TFWiki a while now, and on a lot of discussion pages I've posted on, you're the first or second person to answer a question or comment on my post.

I also read Shortpacked and didn't know you were... well, you.

It was seemingly at random I clicked on your link to see your page and, lo and behold, you're the reason for so much joy and pain, the grand well of Transformers knowledge, the de facto LEGENDARY user who knows how many punctuation marks are in the title of seemingly random comics... from EUROPE.

I simply want to say that it's an honor for me to be able to collaborate with you on this project. Transformers has always been a big part of my childhood, and now my adulthood. I'm starting up the UniCronicles (see my page for more details) and yours, along with several other webcomics I read, have inspired me. I thank you for Shortpacked, your contribution to Teletraan I, and, of course, for making fun of that ditzy purple skank. I mean, am I the only one who noticed she was like 3 million years the senior of most of the ''Cybertron'' cast? Granny's got her freak on.

Anyway, keep making teh funniez. I'll keep reading them. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:55, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

: Allow me to translate - SLURRRRRRP SLURP SLURP SLURP SLURRRRRRRRRRP mmm SLURRP SLURP SLURP please not in my hair SLURP SLURP SLURP [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 18:42, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
::You know, normally I try to keep things clean, organized, and polite, especially when it comes to something like this. But just this once, I'm going to say it. Fuck all y'all. I don't give a flying rat's ass about what you think about me, so go fornicate yourself with a barbed iron rod. Just because I admire one man's work doesn't mean I'm some mindless suck up, and you would let Aaron Archer assfuck you (no lube). [[User:Dracokanji|Dracokanji]] 12:57, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
::: It's okay. Nobody ever listens to Hooper. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:01, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

::::Oh well. So then. Thoughts on Alternators Ravage (Jaguar XK-9)? [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:11, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

::Allow me to translate - SOMEONE PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEE PLEASE HEY LOOK WACKY HOOP LOOK LOOK HEY LOOK MEEE SO LONELY --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:46, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

:::If somebody kills his lonely, can we get a necromancer?--[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:07, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

:And Hoop's comment was ''so'' unfair. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:49, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

== Transformers Chess Set ==

Do you know anything about the upcoming Tranformers Chess set? All I know is that Autobots are gold, and Decepticons are silver. And what should we do about an article? Just call it "Chess" or "Transformers Chess"? Plus, can anyone confirm whether or not Bumblebee is the pawn for the Autobot side? [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 02:57, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
: Well, there's going to be two sets, one that's really expensive and in color and featuring show-accurate G1 dudes -- and the one you speak of, which is movie-related. Do we know what they say on the box, yet? I suppose we could have one article at [[Chess set]] or something that talks about all kinds of TF chess sets. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:38, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
:: Unless there's something that really makes the sets remarkable or stand out as deserving individual mention, I move for one article about all Transformers versions of Chess, with a note about [[fulstasis]]. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:31, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
::I think just [[Chess]] is a better title than [[Chess set]]. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:45, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
:::I suppose a single page would be in order. Even if they are remarkable and awesome and whatever, there's still little to be said, other than a list of who is what piece and where/when it's available. I have to agree with calling it [[Chess]], thought. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 07:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

1 page.--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 19:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

P.S. in the movie set, pawns are autobot symbols. BB might be in the G1 set.--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 19:49, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

== Please remove (or at least justify) block ==
Um,
Excuse me, but... what the heck? (Block ID #49)

Why on earth have you blocked me? VANDALISM? Are you kidding?!?

Is this about the two snarky little comments spilled over from the Movie-G1-IDW categorisation micro-debate? i.e., the ones that were already deleated from the Movie pages well over a week ago and are thus no longer an issue at all? Have you seriously blocked me over that? Good lord...

Okay, maybe those TWO very SMALL comments were SLIGHTLY out of order, but to call it
vandalism...! This isn't Wikipedia, mate. If you wanna start policing sarcastic
comments and POV material then you've got a loooong task ahead of you on this
site, don't you think? Blocking me for those comments hardly seems rational.

That you wanted to delete them? Fine. But to BLOCK me for it? C'mon; get real.

I am a comparatively new user, but one in good standing who has contributed several articles and is polite in all discussions at every turn, far more so than some other users here that I've observed. I've noticed that on more than one occasion you have had somewhat grumpy reactions to things I have to say, so I'm more than a little suspicious that this block isn't some kind of vindictive action on your part, as you seemingly have some kind of problem with me, although I can't imagine on what basis.

This block is clearly absurd, and not at all in the spirit of fun and good
humour I've come to love about this site. I don't see how you can reasonably justify this action, and I am also complaining about this to your fellow adminstrator.

Yours indignantly, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
: For your information, I banned you right BEFORE I deleted your vandalism. It wasn't a week-later thing, no. And, yes, if you're going to end a long Talk Page discussion in which you were overwhelmingly outvoted by editing '''the articles themselves''' with retaliatory comments, then, yes, that's vandalism. Certainly, if that's going to be the nature of your contributions here, then you don't belong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

::With all due respect this is a massive overraction. I'm prepared to apologise to anyone you want me to, but you seem to be attributing all kinds of deviant, troublemaking behaviour to me that is simply NOT truthfully accurate. Don't take my word for it: please look at my history of contribution and discussion with other users. I've always been scrupulously polite and have never gotten into an edit war with anyone.

::So, Okay, yes, if you really want me to say it: I DID A BAD THING. I'm sorry. Don't you guys have some kind of strike system? To permanently ban me over this small piece of sarcasm really seems excessive, don't you think?

::[[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:::You're not permanently banned! Steve-o says it was for three months, but I don't think I would have done it for that long on purpose. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:00, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Stereo is annoying. Can we pick a talk page and stick with it? (I nominate this one.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::Regardless, I've unblocked you for the three months and reblocked you for an additional week starting today, as I intended to block for two weeks. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:03, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, dude. You seem to be a step ahead of me. I'm not trying to foul you up. Please feel free to delete my erroneous edits. I was trying to say that G2 Breakdown (the AM) was unofficial. Just hadn't gotten to it yet!--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 03:22, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

== DS Pics ==
Question for you since you've got the Autobots DS card- Does it have the USS Seaspray docked in Tranquility's harbor in the Autobots version?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 03:32, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
: Yeah! Heh. I didn't notice that, but I see the name now. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:45, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:: Probably old news, but there's an available mode meant as a Hoist homage too. -[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 16:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

==Bobby Bolivia Trivia==
Wow, you're right. I totally misinterpreted that. To be fair (shift blame) the same bit of trivia on Bumblebee's page wasn't as clear at the time it was written. So..um.. yeah. But you know, now that it's evident that they kinda paid exactly what it was worth, I fail to see how that bit of trivia is even relevant to the article now.
It should probably just go altogether. [[User:Atomic spaceman|Atomic spaceman]] 14:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

==Fandom page==
Listen, hate to bother you, but there is ''massive'' edit war going on at [[Fandom]]. Could you please just semi-protect (or totally protect) the page while people try to figue out what to do? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 19:41, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

==BANNED==

What the hell did I do to warrant a ban, exactly? As far as I'm aware, I don't even think I broke any rules, and if I did, an official warning would be appropriate. I received no such warning. I was not here for trolling and you know that - you use that bullshit excuse to get people to ignore arguments you can't handle. But you, personally, who made this decision, know I'm not a troll.

This is fucking low. I had little enough respect for you down to your ranting against the fanbase, Willis, but this is a whole new level of buggery. If you're going to use your comic to rant against and discredit people you don't like, the least you can do is suck it up when people rant at you back, and not act like a control-freak child.

I really don't think you're aware of your own actions anymore.
*Do the words [[Wikipedia:WP:NPA|no personal attacks]] mean anything to you? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:: Do the words "warning before ban" mean anything to you? Rulemongering doesn't justify a decision anyway, since Walky is one of the people making the rules. There were plenty of personal attacks leveled at me, but I did not report them officially.

::I really find it hard to believe that you think it's completely on a rational level of discourse to claim that the comic strip I draw is about child pornography. If I'm not mistaken about your identity, you've been banned from almost every single Transformers web board you've had an acquaintance with, and I'm only doing this place a favor by getting rid of you. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

::: That's not an excuse. I will openly admit I HAVE been banned from several forums, but only because I repeatedly opposed the staff on each and every one of them; and with good cause, they all have roughly the same problem. People bully others either into liking the movie or to agree with the kind of views you promote - and since nobody can directly attack or discredit anyone, these people(and you are) are left to their methods.
::: For your current decision to be validated, the admins of those boards, boards which are influenced in turn by your anti-fan attitude, would have to be near 100% correct in their decisions, and those decisions would have to occur within a context that would map exactly onto here. Any rational moderator does not base their decisions so much off performance on other boards, especially when it's not even a messageboard they're operating. Two different media. I have openly said I despise all active Transformers boards for their level of authoritarianism, yet level of tolerance towards the pushing of certain viewpoints.

::: Not to mention that you're still operating under the fallacy of Appeal to Majority - that alone means I shouldn't really even have to counter you.

::: And don't even use the "CHILD PORNOGRAPHY" thing as an excuse. Again, any rational moderator would warn several times before a ban, I personally reversed that edit even though it was obviously intended to be a joke as anyone reading this knows what pile'o'bile already is. You have no justification for what you did, but your ego is too big to realise you can actually do wrong with your power. You'll never admit it, but I wouldn't be surprised if some part of you is pissed that I defeated some of your ramblings, whether they were directly written by you or encouraged by you, it's still the kind of guff you normally blew, and I managed to defeat it. You, and the mods of the big sites will always have your ban buttons - but you will NEVER be able to justify your actions to me. That's how I know that I'm in the right, at least in situations like this - solidly backed justification is almost always absent.
:::: Personal attacks + deleting comments in response to you = banno --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:::: P.S. Sign your posts. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

::::: I have never intentionally deleted comments in response to me. I just moved one recently as it was in the middle of a paragraph of text. Not to mention that happened after you banned my original IP. Personal attacks alone are not grounds enough for a ban, especially when you're doing an awful, awful lot to be mercilessly torn into.
Need I point out that once again, you are unable to defend yourself properly? When does the "You're insane?" come? Ganging up of all your little friends since a majority always means you're right?
Do you even realise what a fascist shithead you sound like? Just because you're an admin of a place doesn't give you a free pass to be a dick with it. There's a difference between what you can do and what you should do that you don't seem to have learned yet.

[[User:67.159.44.88]]

: YOU BAN PEOPLE BECAUSE ****YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE

TRUTH****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111twelve FUCKING FASCIST PIGCOP NAZI WIKIPEDO '''ASSHOLE''' [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:32, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

:: My gosh, now that I have seen someone mock the notion, it MUST be untrue. Please, where can I learn these 1337 debating skills?

:::Dude, I've been banned from twice as many forums as you, guaranfuckingteed, but they still let me post here because I'm not as goddamn retarded as you are. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:34, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

:::: And can you demonstrate exactly how I'm more retarded than you? Or are you just, Walky style, dropping weighted terms to discredit someone's point of view without even trying?

:::::1. Hoop doesn't delete other people's comments on talk pages. 2. He actually signs his posts, which you've been asked to do many times, but haven't caught on. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:40, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

:::::: I didn't delete anything. If I did, it was an accident because someone posted right in the middle of text it wasn't meant to be in the middle of. Not signing my posts doesn't make me retarded since it's blatant when I'm saying something. --[[User:67.159.44.88]]

Actually - come to think of it, you make fun of the idea that anyone running a site can be Nazi, yet you still mention you got banned from many forums. Does that perhaps mean that you genuinely got banned for being an asshole and not opposing the staff/local clique like I did?

:''any rational moderator would warn several times before a ban''
:Not true, some things are auto-ban. I don't think you ''did'' any of them, but I'm just saying.
:Dude- you got an expedited ban because you showed no signs of contrition, argued every point, used personal insults, refused to sign your posts even when '''repeatedly asked to''' (I had to go back into history and dig out which incoherent chunks of text where yours, because the posts weren't hierarchied properly so the debate was really hard to follow. This is why signin posts is important dumbfuck.)
:And ultimately you got banned because you were making a major nuisance of yourself in ''without'' any correlating '''contribution''' to justify keeping you around. You're a negative. You edited 3 articles- Fandom, Shortpacking and Ruined Forever- and ''all' of those edits got reverted because they either flames or crappy jokes that make the articles ''worse''. Even if I were to (generously) believe you didn't intend to start a fight, you picked the 3 flamebaitiest articles you could find and masturbated across them. ''Allah forfend'' you should write an ''episode summary'' or something.
:Unrelated- Walky can Talk:Fandom be semi-protected instead of full? Loserbot isn't registered. -[[User:Derik|Derik]]01:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

==Entertainment footer==

Hi David -- I'm working on a project for Wikia to help link the TV wikis together, and encourage people to see this as one big site, rather than a lot of little wikis. I'd like to post this footer at the bottom of the main page.{{w:youngtv}}

The gaming wikis have started a similar project, and they've seen a lot more cross-traffic. Would it be okay to post this at the bottom of the main page here? You could also feel free to edit it, to fit in better with this community. -- [[User:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue">Danny</font>]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 01:46, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

:Hi -- I haven't heard from you about this, so I guess it's okay? I'll add it... Please let me know if there's a problem. Thanks! -- [[User:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue">Danny</font>]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 14:29, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
==Megatron==
Sorry, accidentally reverted Megatron (G1) - have fixed 0_o apologies for that![[User:Bento180|Bento180]] 12:16, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
:The heck did you do, man? It's broken, and I can't successfully reupload it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:00, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
::I think something's screwy with the image server. I've tried resizing some of the embedded images to mess with layout on some articles, and I'm getting broken images.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 14:17, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

== image issues ==

re you able to see the images? They aren't loading for me. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:10, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for helping out with the Robot Heroes page. I'm still new to the whole Wiki thing. :) --[[User:DarkPrime|DarkPrime]]

== "Stolen Prototypes" ==

I was under the impression that we just weren't allowed to use the photos of stolen prototypes. Certainly we can say that they're planned figures, right?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 18:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
: We don't have any information on the wiki from unannounced future toy releases. It's always been that way. (Also, note the header says "ANNOUNCED but uncategorized yadda yadda." Those four were shown at BotCon. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Ah, gotcha. Thanks.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 19:04, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

== Category: Things that don't exist ==

psst... [[Transformers Wiki:Title blacklist]] --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:I've been trying to tell people that since Angela made it! I've even laid out the instructions on the talk page! -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 17:53, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
::Maybe he ''likes'' having to repeatedly delete it. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

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