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Nexus Prime

2010-09-03T18:53:46Z

65.118.138.126: /* Notes */ The "official" depictions at variance with the "official" configuration from the instructions

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:''Nexus Prime is an [[Autobot]] [[combiner]] whose components come from several different [[continuity family|continuity families]].''
[[Image:NexusPrimeflankedbyotherPrimes.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Insert batteries where?!]]
One of the [[thirteen original Transformers]], '''Nexus Prime''' was created to guard [[Rarified Energon]] by [[Primus]] shortly after he assumed his planet form, and was known for being an honorable and good-natured warrior. However, Nexus Prime, [[Vector Prime]], and [[Alpha Trion (disambiguation)|Alpha Trion]] made a decision to scatter Nexus Prime across the cosmos to conceal the location of the remains of [[Prima]]'s [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]] sword, a weapon that could destroy star systems. Using the blade of the Star Saber, this Transformer was cut into five other robots: [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]], [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]], [[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]], [[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]], and [[Heatwave]], who were subsequently lost to the ages.

But the skills of Nexus Prime are needed once again, and now that his components have been called together by Primus, he searches the multiverse for the components to the Star Saber sword, armed with his masterful control over all uses of [[Energon (Energon)|Energon]], and ability to manipulate [[spark]]s.

He is sometimes, unfortunately, known as '''Nexus Maximus'''.
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==Fiction==
===''Classics'' & "Shattered Glass"===
[[Image:Clubcombinercarving.jpg|left|200px|thumb|They drew his limbs arranged incorrectly!]]
The [[Caretaker]] told its components that Nexus Prime was "designated a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]", like the other original thirteen. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 6}}

When Landquake, Breakaway, Topspin, and Heatwave made an attempt to use their powers to revive the recently-assassinated [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]], they were transported—along with a revived Skyfall—to the presence of [[Primus]] in the "afterlife". He gave them a choice of living (or staying dead) as they were, or being reborn as what they were meant to be. After the gestalt members made their deliberations, Primus declared, "The choice is made. Arise, Nexus Prime," as they started the transformation. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 5}}
[[Image:OmegaDoomNexusPrimeGalvatron.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Behold the fingers my toy totally doesn't have!]]
Nexus Prime reformatted the dead Megatron into the powerful Galvatron, investing in him some of the power of the Thirteen. The two exited the Decepticon stronghold to counter [[Omega Doom]]'s offensive, but they were forced to split up when Doom launched a starkilling missile into Cybertron's sun. Though his Decepticon components protested leaving the battle, Nexus Prime knew saving this Cybertron's star system was of more immediate importance. Regardless, he was too late in stopping the missile, and its energies began to destroy the sun. Nexus began to concentrate.

Nexus returned to Cybertron triumphant, having used his own powers to negate those of the starkilling missile, and he made short work of Omega Doom, saving Galvatron in the nick of time. Though there was more on this Cybertron to do, such as finishing [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] once and for all, Nexus Prime knew he had to leave for another universe. After saying goodbye to [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], he entered a portal with [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]], trusting fate to bring him to the correct destination. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 6}}
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===Wings of Honor===
Nexus Prime and Aquarius traveled from world to world, but without finding what Nexus Prime was looking for. Eventually, the pair arrived on a [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] where they were attacked by a group of smaller Decepticons who thought they had an easy mark. Though Nexus Prime was unwilling to use his more supernatural powers, lest he draw unwanted attention towards himself, he was still able to easily beat their attackers. As they left the group of dazed Decepticons behind, Nexus Prime and Aquarius wandered through a Cybertronian marketplace. Finally, Nexus Prime began to drop hints about what [[Star Saber (Prima)|mysterious artifact]] he was looking for; he hadn't yet clued Aquarius in. Ultimately, Nexus Prime spotted a shipping container with an [[Elite Guard]] symbol on it. This unlocked a memory in the ancient Transformer, allowing him to determine their next destination. He and Aquarius vanished through another portal to yet another Cybertron, his future travels to be potentially unchronicled. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 1}}

==Toys==
===Cybertron, Classics, and Timelines===
[[Image:Timelinestoy-NexusMaximus.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Remember to use the instructions! You don't want to put something in the wrong hole.]]
*'''Nexus Maximus''' (2009)
:Nexus Maximus is composed of his five team members, with Heatwave forming his central body component. His limbs' [[energon weapon]]s form his hands and feet. Similarly to [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'s "[[Scramble City]]" combiner teams, Nexus Maximus (as well as [[Superion Maximus]], [[Bruticus Maximus (Energon)|Bruticus Maximus]] and [[Constructicon Maximus]]) features universal connection points for the limbs, allowing many different combinations and even swapping of limbs from different teams. His combined form's head was [[retool]]ed to give him a unique one, which is an amalgamation of visual elements of its components' own heads: Skyfall's eyes, Landquake's chin, Breakaway's forehead, Topspin's "hair", and Heatwave's "ears".

:Nexus Maximus is the combined form of the first five [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] freebie toys: Skyfall, Landquake, Breakaway, Topspin, and Heatwave.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/TFCCNexusMaximus/nexusmaximus.htm More information on Nexus Maximus at TFU.info]''
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==Notes==
*It's hard to say what toyline Nexus Prime is from, as his components are from multiple franchises. How often does that happen?
*Nexus Prime's backstory bears a noticeable similarity to that of [[wikipedia:Voltron|Voltron]].
*Fun Publications stated at [[BotCon 2009]] that the official limb arrangement for Nexus Prime is that of the configuration in his instructions. With Landquake as the right arm, Topspin as the left arm, Breakaway as the right leg, and Skyfall as the left leg. Why he was depicted in a different arrangement in the caverns around the [[Caretaker]] (to say nothing of the cover image used at the top of this article) no one knows.
*Ironically, despite being labeled as an Autobot, a majority of the Transformers that make up Nexus Prime are Decepticons, albeit ones that are [[Landquake (Timelines)|disenchanted by the Decepticon cause]], [[Topspin (Classics)|misled by deceitful leaders]], or [[Heatwave|a completely different kind of Decepticon]].
*Nexus Prime's TFCC profile mentions that he "no longer has an [[alternate mode]]", due to being split apart for so long and then reassembled.

===Naming Issues===
[[Fun Publications]] originally submitted the possible names "Prime Nexus" and "Maximus Prime" to [[Hasbro]] for the character (reflecting the fact that the character is a Prime in-fiction), Hasbro rejected these, apparently because they are feeling protective towards the use of the name Prime (despite previously having approved the fiction that already named him a Prime, written by their own [[Forest Lee]]). Hasbro suggested merging the non-Prime segments of the two names instead... oops.

Apparently neither Hasbro nor Fun Publications did their research when naming Nexus Maximus, because there is another product which shares that name and was, as of [[May 24]], [[2009]], the top Google result (this wiki page has since surpassed it). While it is definitely a "toy", it is most assuredly not intended for ages 5 and up. It's also probably not safe for work, so [http://www.vixencreations.com/store/maximus.html click here] at your own risk. According to the Fun Publications Club panel at [[BotCon 2009]], Hasbro did a search for the name with "safe search" on, causing them to not see... well, ''that''.

When he finally appeared in person in fiction, his name was given as indeed being Nexus Prime. Which makes much better sense story-wise but deprives us of many cheap and easy joke opportunities. [[Pete Sinclair]] [http://www.transformersclub.com/members/transforum/msgs.cfm?forum=30&msg=116291 posted an image] on the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] forums of [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]] blaming the "Nexus Maximus" name on a bad translation by [[Beta Maxx]].

(The debate is still on whether Nexus Maximus constitutes a choking hazard.)

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California

2010-08-02T17:06:44Z

65.118.138.126: /* Marvel comic continuity */ Actually, I guess it's more properly the back-up story I should link to.

'''California''' is a state that's part of the [[United States of America]], located south of [[Oregon]] as well bordering [[Nevada]] and [[Arizona]] on its east side. It is home to the unfortunate city of [[San Francisco]], which usually suffers massive damage at the hands of the [[Transformer]]s, alongside [[Los Angeles]].

==Fiction==
===Generation 1===
====Cartoon continuity====
When [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]] and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] wandered off from a diplomatic event the [[Autobot]]s were hosting, they found themselves in a room which transported them from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to [[Menonia]]. Upon discovering the strange environment that they were in, Grimlock speculated that they were in California. Daniel pointed out that California, while strange, was not that strange. {{storylink|Madman's Paradise}}

====Marvel comic continuity====
[[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] annihilated San Francisco, pretty much just because he could.{{storylink|Tales of Earth Part Eight}}

====Young Corgi Adventure====
[[You]] visited [[Disneyland]] but were accidentally transported four million years into California's past by a [[time-sphere]]. There you and the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] battled [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] before you managed to return to present day California. {{storylink|Dinobot War}}

====Dreamwave comic continuity====
[[Image:DW devastator.jpg|right|180px|thumb|The 1906 quake's got NOTHING on Devastator.]]
[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] had secreted [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] in the San Francisco Bay years ago, and reactivated him to distract the Autobots while his metal virus cyberformed Earth. San Francisco suffered heavy damage from Devastator, and then even MORE damage when, after [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] defeated Devastator, the rest of the Decepticons arrived and another fight broke out. In the end [[Robert Hallo|General Hallo]] tried to nuke the city to wipe out the Transformers, but [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] detonated the warhead over the ocean. While San Francisco wasn't vaporized, it WAS hit with a tidal wave caused by the explosion, causing further damage to the already ruined city. Apparently, [[Pat Lee]] doesn't like San Francisco.

====IDW Continuity====
Both San Francisco and San Diego came under Decepticon attack. These cities weren't important enough for the attacks to be shown on-panel. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 3}}

====Shattered Glass====
In this universe, there is a sea where California is supposed to be. {{storylink|Do Over}} This is due to World War III occurring during the 1980s. In 1988 there was some kind of hostile cataclysmic attack as part of the war that destroyed the Western seaboard of the US and sent most of it underwater. {{storylink|Eye in the Sky}}

===Movie continuity family===
The city of [[Tranquility]] appears to be located in the northern part of California.<ref>Though most sources leave [[Tranquility]]'s exact location ambiguous, the [[Transformers (Glu)|Glu Transformers mobile game]] shows it in northern California, while at least one other source places it in [[Nevada]].</ref> It does not nearly suffer as much as San Francisco, however.

====Titan Magazines====
{{note|The following events take place after the movie, and in Los Angeles due to a bloody daft error.}}

The final battle for the All Spark took place in [[Los Angeles]]. The result were all but one of the Decepticons dead, mass destruction, and [[Allspark Mutation]]s running amok and killing people. [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] solved this last problem by killing them all for their All Spark energy...

...which he used to create ''[[zombie]] Decepticons'', restarting the battle and causing ''more'' damage. Why couldn't this crap have happened to [[Mission City]] or somewhere like that?! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 7|Starscream's Militia}}

{{notetitantlg}}
Following the liberation of America, San Diego's naval bases were once again operational. This led to attacks by Decepticon drones, attempting to prevent America's military infrastructure being rebuilt, and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and [[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]] barely held them off. {{storylink|Dark Spark}}

==References==
<references />

==External links==
*[[wikipedia:California|California at Wikipedia]]

[[Category:States of the United States]]

California

2010-08-02T17:04:09Z

65.118.138.126: /* Generation 1 */ What? Make a big deal about how SF gets nuked, yet no mention the G2 incident? (arguably the first of many)

'''California''' is a state that's part of the [[United States of America]], located south of [[Oregon]] as well bordering [[Nevada]] and [[Arizona]] on its east side. It is home to the unfortunate city of [[San Francisco]], which usually suffers massive damage at the hands of the [[Transformer]]s, alongside [[Los Angeles]].

==Fiction==
===Generation 1===
====Cartoon continuity====
When [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]] and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] wandered off from a diplomatic event the [[Autobot]]s were hosting, they found themselves in a room which transported them from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to [[Menonia]]. Upon discovering the strange environment that they were in, Grimlock speculated that they were in California. Daniel pointed out that California, while strange, was not that strange. {{storylink|Madman's Paradise}}

====Marvel comic continuity====
[[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] annhilated San Francisco, pretty much just because he could.{{storylink|Dark Shadows!}}

====Young Corgi Adventure====
[[You]] visited [[Disneyland]] but were accidentally transported four million years into California's past by a [[time-sphere]]. There you and the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] battled [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] before you managed to return to present day California. {{storylink|Dinobot War}}

====Dreamwave comic continuity====
[[Image:DW devastator.jpg|right|180px|thumb|The 1906 quake's got NOTHING on Devastator.]]
[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] had secreted [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] in the San Francisco Bay years ago, and reactivated him to distract the Autobots while his metal virus cyberformed Earth. San Francisco suffered heavy damage from Devastator, and then even MORE damage when, after [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] defeated Devastator, the rest of the Decepticons arrived and another fight broke out. In the end [[Robert Hallo|General Hallo]] tried to nuke the city to wipe out the Transformers, but [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] detonated the warhead over the ocean. While San Francisco wasn't vaporized, it WAS hit with a tidal wave caused by the explosion, causing further damage to the already ruined city. Apparently, [[Pat Lee]] doesn't like San Francisco.

====IDW Continuity====
Both San Francisco and San Diego came under Decepticon attack. These cities weren't important enough for the attacks to be shown on-panel. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 3}}

====Shattered Glass====
In this universe, there is a sea where California is supposed to be. {{storylink|Do Over}} This is due to World War III occurring during the 1980s. In 1988 there was some kind of hostile cataclysmic attack as part of the war that destroyed the Western seaboard of the US and sent most of it underwater. {{storylink|Eye in the Sky}}

===Movie continuity family===
The city of [[Tranquility]] appears to be located in the northern part of California.<ref>Though most sources leave [[Tranquility]]'s exact location ambiguous, the [[Transformers (Glu)|Glu Transformers mobile game]] shows it in northern California, while at least one other source places it in [[Nevada]].</ref> It does not nearly suffer as much as San Francisco, however.

====Titan Magazines====
{{note|The following events take place after the movie, and in Los Angeles due to a bloody daft error.}}

The final battle for the All Spark took place in [[Los Angeles]]. The result were all but one of the Decepticons dead, mass destruction, and [[Allspark Mutation]]s running amok and killing people. [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] solved this last problem by killing them all for their All Spark energy...

...which he used to create ''[[zombie]] Decepticons'', restarting the battle and causing ''more'' damage. Why couldn't this crap have happened to [[Mission City]] or somewhere like that?! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 7|Starscream's Militia}}

{{notetitantlg}}
Following the liberation of America, San Diego's naval bases were once again operational. This led to attacks by Decepticon drones, attempting to prevent America's military infrastructure being rebuilt, and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and [[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]] barely held them off. {{storylink|Dark Spark}}

==References==
<references />

==External links==
*[[wikipedia:California|California at Wikipedia]]

[[Category:States of the United States]]

Talk:Wheelie (G1)

2010-02-08T20:01:46Z

65.118.138.126: /* Japanese fiction: Rhyme or Not Rhyme? */ Random? Are you not paying attention?

I applaud the profile. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:03, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
::It's amazing how many sentences can rhyme without not making sense. [[User:American Girl|American Girl]] 19:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
: Well, on second thought, I applaud the concept of the bio, but think the content is more appropriate for the animated continuity section. It seems to chronicle the circumstances of the movie, and not his personality. (Remember, in Dreamwave, he was never on Quintessa that we saw.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:Point conceded. The new bio's better than mine anyway. The whole entry is much improved. So many horrible rhymes...bwahahahahaha. --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 12:30, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

We totally need to complete this entry. This deserves to be a Featured Article. sadly, I'm pretty awful about fiction. I OWN most of it, but don't REMEMBER it very well. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Having just rhymed all through the section I just added, I have no idea how Wheelie keeps it up 24/7. Exhausting! --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 09:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
:Rhyming isn't really all that hard if you have the vocabulary of a bard. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 13:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Fixed the manga summary to rhyme and keep the gag going. Though I think I write rhymes more like Dr. Seuss than Wheelie...--[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 23:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm fine with the rhyming in the article, but the rhythm really needs work. I'd change it, but I'm afraid of being accused of ripping apart large sections of the article for no good reason (see Walky's comment below).--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 22:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

==Not yet to be Featured==
Sipher, the reason I unfeatured it is because the inconsistency of the rhyme's meter is really embarrassing. If you read the history, you'll see my note. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
:Then maybe you should have removed the "Featured Article" Category, which is why I put the tag on it (and is still there as of your last edit). --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
:: Indeed I should! Meanwhile, history is your friend. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

==Commercial voice==
Walky, Frank Welker never VOICED Scrappy-Doo! He did, however, voice Peewit. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 12:57, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Welker ''did'' voice Zzcooby & Freddy in new show! [[User:Wazzpinator|Wazzpinator]] 18:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

==Italian names==
I don't have the brainpower to add these in rhyme tonight. If somebody could, Wheelie was called Saetta in the dub of TFTM, and... apparently ''Scooter'' in everything else. (At least, it doesn't SEEM to be a joke...) --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 05:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:I apologize. - Chris McFeely, not signed in

== Continuity rhymes ==

"Continuity" doesn't rhyme with "see". [It rhymes with "bitty", to pick an irrelevant-but-accurate example] - 21:39, 16 August 2009 (EDT)
:It also rhymes with "enginuity"! -- [[User:Ziyad|Ziyad]] 20:03, 18 August 2009 (EDT)
::Or even "ingenuity"!--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 00:27, 19 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Ooh! Here's one that's on-topic, "ambiguity"!! -- [[User:Ziyad|Ziyad]] 07:14, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

== But seriously, folks... ==

...am I going to be hugely unpopular if I state my belief that the article has, at this point, gone way overboard? Rhymes in the section headers, line-breaks all over the place, rhymes being used to describe continuities where he ''didn't rhyme''... I think that this page has long since crossed the line between "fun" and "taking it way too far". Frankly, I would almost be in favour of scaling it back to just having a rhyming opening and captions. A ''lot'' of the fiction section is, to my eyes, suffering because of the demands of the rhyme scheme. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:11, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:All my hard work...unappreciated...:( --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 10:47, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::But to be serious, I wrote nearly all the rhymes in the fiction portion of the article and created the linebreaks so folks could see the scheme. The rhymes in the fiction headers and continuity notes were some no-username's doing and I've never been very fond of them.
::Still, if many people agree that the humor interferes with the facts, then we can put it to a vote as to whether we get rid of the rhymes in the headers, the rhymes all together or if we just leave it. It may be ''my'' joke, but I'm not going to have a heart attack if others want to change it so it doesn't interfere with the facts (unlike ''some'' members of this Wiki). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 10:54, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::Aw, it's not that it's not appreciated, I see what you were doing, but it's... it's like Bonecrusher hate jokes. We started out with them and they were funny when the article was small but then when it was filled in they got really tiresome but people kept dogpiling 'em on anyway, until we had to say "No more". That's sort of what I'm feeling here. The idea worked when the article was small, but when it's full (which it ''isn't'' yet!) I think it gets in the way more than it is fun. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:56, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::::I need to concur, although we should keep SOME rhymes for sure. At the very least, his summary. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:20, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::''I need to concur/although we should keep SOME rhymes for sure.''
:::::Why, there's one right there! :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:31, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
But this is the most awesome page on the wiki. It's one of the things people think of when they talk about how awesome our wiki is. It's like getting rid of the teacup ride at Disneyland. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:35, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:Or the testicles in ROTF. The ''Awesome'' defense only goes so far, especially in Transformers.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::That's a terrible analogy. When people talk about our wiki, they mention our Wheelie article that is all rhymes, and this is a good thing that they think epitomizes what we stand for and why we're better than other wikis. When people talk about Devastator's balls, it's derisively. I don't understand your comparison. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:46, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::::It's simple - Devastator's testicle's are 'awesome.' Bay thinks so. A lot of the moviegoing public though so. Most 'serious' fans thought otherwise. But an awful lot of people laughed and laughed at them, probably more than will ever read this wiki. Just because one group of people thinks something is awesome doesn't keep it from getting in the way of (imparting information / telling a strong story.) The fandom can be be a bit of an insulated community - an echo chamber, if you will. Pointing to anecdotal evidence one way or the other shouldn't be our benchmark. It's much more useful to go back to core principles.
::::But mostly I was seizing on your use of the word ''awesome'' which has been forever commingled with Bay for me.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:25, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::Well, I think the charm of us writing articles in the personality of the characters extends to more than just this one. [[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]], [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Rewind]], etc., for instance. It can actually be weirdly useful sometimes in conveying information about characters without having to spell it out. But, if it's getting in the way of having an actual informative article in any instance, then it ''does'' need toning down. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:35, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

::I agree some of the rhyming should go. The headers, external link, notes and voice actor info in rhyme seems redundant to me, if not annoying. I can somewhat dig the argument not to put rhyme in sections of fiction in which he didn't rhyme, although I'd hate to see it go. But what I think would greatly help this article is a better layout. Currently, the article is all rather statically and confusingly "text-humongous white space-pic". I'd like to see it being connected a tad more by switching the text-pic order every second fiction/rhyme-paragraph (as well as having some of the paragraphs expanded). [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:48, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::I think all of the ''paragraphs'' should remain in rhyme. Headers, bullet-point "list" items... no. That's overkill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 12:51, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::Yeah, mark me down as a compromise vote. Ditch the headers/notes, etc rhymes but keep the fiction section poetry. Partly because I spent a lot of time writing most of it, but also because I don't think the fiction poetry really interferes with the knowledge. The headers and stuff is annoying, though. --'''DrSpengler (at work, can't log in)'''
::::I'll agree with that. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 14:55, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
::::I'd quite happily dump the whole joke, which was never that funny. And it does seriously impede the article. '''Vote NO on this from me''' [[User:Eire]] 20.02 Oct 12 09 (UTC)

==Japanese fiction: Rhyme or Not Rhyme?==

Recently, I've been told to stop writing the Japanese fiction sections in rhyme because Wheelie didn't rhyme in Japan, and that all rhymes should be reverted to standard. I wrote the Japanes fiction sections in rhyme to keep up the theme and flow of the article, and because it was fun, yeah. But if everyone else thinks the Japanese fiction sections should be de-rhymed, then so be it. Let's take a vote. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 12:26, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''AGAINST''' rhyme in the Japanese section. It simply isn't appropriate for that incarnation of the character.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 12:39, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it''' because I like the general theme of the page, it's fun, and because Wheelie only never rhymed because the Japanese language sucks at rhyming (same reason why their poems and music lyrics don't rhyme). The sentence structure just doesn't work in its favor. Just because the Japanese couldn't do it doesn't mean we should follow suit. English rocks at rhyming. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:55, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Here's me voting '''for it''', because if we're going to do a gag, we ought to be consistent with it throughout the article, or it looks half-assed. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:33, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it'''. Keep it consistent or keep it out. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:38, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Just so there's no confusion, I am obviously '''for it'''. I think the rhymes make the article fun and I believe that having random non-rhyming chunks would break up the flow of the page. And doing it just because Wheelie didn't rhyme in certain continuities isn't worth killing the fun. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 13:40, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it'''. Keeps the page consistent and there's already someone willing to do it. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:00, 8 February 2010 (EST)
: I vote '''AGAINST''' all the rhyme. Seriously, you ever sit down and try to exract information from this page? Imagine you're someone who knows nothing of Wheelie. After reading this I guarantee you'll know even less. [[User: Eire]] 18.59 8 Feb 2010
:: Hey, were you the [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Tales_of_the_Fallen_issue_5&diff=414380&oldid=413827 guy who called a dude a schmuck for no real reason], and so then he [http://shortpacked.livejournal.com/593224.html?thread=14980936#t14980936 quit this wiki] because he was treated like shit? You don't get a vote. Especially since you think Florida and Cuba are separated by a friggin' river. (Anyway, I vote against rhyming in the Headmasters section.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:07, 8 February 2010 (EST)

:I vote '''against''' the rhyme, and note that when I first read this page, the break ''away'' from rhyming was hilarious... particularly because the text of the section was written in short, flat deliberately ''boring'' sentences to maximize the contrast. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:08, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::Yeah. I don't vote for the lack of rhyming in the Headmasters section for technicality reasons, but because it would be hilarious. Especially if it were written like a petulant little punk. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:'''AGAINST''' btw. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm '''for it''' as I think it'd disrupt the flow, if it was only randomly rhyming.'''--TFDatabase'''
::''Whatever'' policy we adopt, it's not going to be random. If it rhymes, it's for a reason. If it doesn't rhyme (especially in specific sections), it also for a reason.--[[Special:Contributions/65.118.138.126|65.118.138.126]] 15:01, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for''' for the reasons already listed by so many others. Now, if you could find a way to do that section in haiku instead... [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:35, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::That idea is morbidly appealing. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:50, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:::MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:57, 8 February 2010 (EST)

BotCon 2009

2009-06-24T15:33:12Z

65.118.138.126: I'm not even sure what "remaining" means in this context.

{{disambig2|the 2009 Transformers convention|the "Botcon 2009!" video advertisement|BotCon 2009!}}

'''BotCon 2009''' was the official ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' Convention in 2009, run by [[Fun Publications]]. It was held in Pasadena, [[California]], from [[May 28]] to [[May 31]], although [[May 27]] had the first customizing class and an additional tour, and the last two days were opened to the general public.

:''Preceded by: [[BotCon 2008]]''

==Run-up==
In 2008, the club forums were changed from BotCon 2008 to BotCon 2009, with the tag line of "For one young Autobot..."

*On [[December 24]], the [http://www.botcon.com BotCon website] was updated with the date and location.

*On [[January 6]], 2009, Brian Savage posted a teaser in the club boards:

{{quote|OK, while we are working on finalizing the convention details, brochure and registration forms, we wanted to start the speculation game:
"For one young Autobot..." is all we have revealed so far. While we tend to guard the convention sets and souvenirs closely, I want to let you know that we are very excited about what we have waiting in the wings!

The set we have planned features a select team of Autobots never before featured in G1 in this way. The timeline we are spotlighting is new, yet very familiar...

Let the games begin!|[[Brian Savage]]}}

*Pete Sinclair then later added two more teasers:

{{quote|Far be it from me to wreck your all's ideas. I just know that this year's set is going to rule!|[[Pete Sinclair]]}}
{{quote|But who said I was giving a clue? Maybe I am just here to add a little mayhem, to get my TCC squad all riled up. I know, I know, I will probably get attacked at the show.|[[Pete Sinclair]]}}

*On [[February 20]], 2009 the brochure was posted, revealing the set theme to be the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]], making Pete Sinclair's posts unrelated.

*On [[February 24]], the first figure, Kup was revealed. The [[February 25|next day]], the link to the registration forms were sent to members via email. By [[March 2]], all loose and Iacon sets had sold out.

==Venue==
BotCon 2009 was held at the Pasadena Convention Center in Pasadena, California.

==Merchandise==
===Convention-exclusive toys===
[[Image:Timelinestoy-KupWoH.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Young Kup has his Earth mode millions of years before it existed!]]
[[Image:Timelinestoy-BanzaiTronWoH.jpg|right|thumb|250px|BanzaiTron. This mold has never looked so good.]]

* '''Convention box set'''
**'''[[Kup (G1)|Kup]]''', a [[retool]] of ''[[Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]]
**'''[[Flak]]''', a retool of [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Cybertron Defense Scattorshot]]
**'''[[Landshark]]''', a [[redeco]] of ''[[Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Landmine (Energon)|Landmine]]
**'''[[Thunder Clash|Thunderclash]]''', a redeco of ''[[Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Rodimus (Energon)|Rodimus]]
**'''[[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]]''', a retool of ''[[Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]]

*'''Attendee-Only Bonus Toy'''
**'''[[Leozack]]''', a redeco of ''[[Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]]

*'''Customization Class Toy'''
**'''''[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'' [[Thunderclash (Shattered Glass)|Thunderclash]]''', a [[repaint]] of this box set's Thunderclash

*'''At-Show Souvenir Toys'''
** '''[[Skyquake (G1)|Skyquake]]''' and '''[[Banzai-Tron (G1)|Banzai-Tron]]''', redecoes of ''Energon'' Starscream and ''Energon'' [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Mirage]]
** Three '''[[Sweep]]s''', redecoes of this box set's Scourge
** '''[[Elita One|Elita-1]]''' and '''[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]]''', a redeco of ''Cybertron'' [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)|Thunderblast]] and a retool of ''Cybertron'' [[Overhaul (Cybertron)|Leobreaker]]

===Fiction===
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==Guests==
===Hasbro employees===
*[[Aaron Archer]]
*[[Michael Ballog]]
*[[Joe Kyde]]
*[[Forest Lee]]
*[[Greg Lombardo]]
*[[Matthew Proulx]]
*[[Bill Rawley]]
*[[Eric Siebenaler]]

===Voice actors===

*[[David Kaye]]
*[[Gregg Berger]]
*[["Weird Al" Yankovic]]
*[[Michael McConnohie]]
*[[Peter Cullen]]
*[[Mark Ryan]]

===Cartoon Network===
*[[Brianne Drouhard]]
*[[Marty Isenberg]]
*[[Ben Jones]]
*[[Claire Lenth]]
*[[Irineo Maramba]]
*[[Otis Van Osten]]
*[[Derrick J. Wyatt]]
*[[Matt Youngberg]]

===Generation 1 writers===
*[[Paul Davids]]
*[[Flint Dille]]
*[[Bryce Malek]]
*[[Roger Slifer]] (unannounced, showed up at panel)
*[[David Wise]]

===IDW Publishing comics===
*[[Josh Burcham]]
*[[Casey Coller]]
*[[Mike Costa]]
*[[Andrew Griffith]]
*[[Shaun Knowler]]
*[[Joana Lafuente]]
*[[Marcelo Matere]]
*[[Alex Milne]]
*[[Chris Mowry]]
*[[Robby Musso]]
*[[Nick Roche]]
*[[Chris Ryall]]
*[[Andy Schmidt]]
*[[Jim Sorenson]]
*[[E. J. Su]]
*[[Denton J. Tipton]]
*[[Josh van Reyk]]

===Activision===
*
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===Live-action Movie===
*[[Alex Kurtzman]]
*[[Roberto Orci]]
*[[Michael Bay]]
*[[Tyrese Gibson]]

===Music===
*[[Vince DiCola]]
*[[Stan Bush]]
*[[Holger Fath]]

===Autobots===
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]]

==Events==
Fun Publications scheduled a large number of events to take place over the course of the convention to keep attendees entertained and informed.

===Wednesday===
*8:45AM-7PM Universal Studio Theme Park Tour
*9AM Transformers Figure Customizing Class creating [[Thunderclash (Shattered Glass)|Thunderclash]] from the box set's Thunderclash
*9:30-10:30PM Registration/Package Pick-up for Wednesday or Thursday Tour Groups and Customizing Class attendees

===Thursday===
*7:45AM-5PM Touring Hollywood
*9AM Transformers Figure Customizing Class
*6PM Registration/Pick-up begins
*8:30-9:30 PM Dealers are allowed to unload and drop-off
*9PM Message Board/Room-to-room trading info in the hotel's lobby
*10PM Package Pick-Up/Registration Closes

===Friday===
*7:30AM-2PM Dealer set up
*8-9AM Club Store open for dealers only
*9AM Club Store open to all registered attendees
*9AM-12PM Contest Check-in/Set-up
*9:30 AM Late Package Pick-up
**Walk-in Late Registration
*9-9:50AM Panel: TCC Magazine and Comic Q&A
*10-10:50AM Panel: Music of Transformers - Stan Bush and Vince DiCola
*11-11:50AM Panel: Cartoon Network-Animating Animated
*12-12:50PM Panel: Transformers Movie Q&A - Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci
*12PM Contest Judging
*1-1:50PM Lunch Break
*2-5PM Private Sales Room Experience
*2-3:30PM Autographs: Gregg Berger, Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci
*3:30-5PM Autographs: Stan Bush, Vince DiCola
*5PM Private Preview Ends
*8:30PM Shout! Factory Transformers Film Fest
*10PM [[MSTF]]
*12AM Transform Me - Documentary Preview

===Saturday===
*7:30AM Dealer set-up
*8:30AM Walk-up Late Check-in/Registration
*8:30AM Sales Room open for Private Preview
*9-11AM Autographs: "Weird Al" Yankovic (Primus Package attendees only)
*9AM "Early Bird" Admission (tickets at PCC Box Office)
**Hourly door prize giveaway
*9:30-11AM Autographs: David Kaye
*10AM General Admission (PCC Box Office)
*10-10:50AM Panel: IDW - Transforming Comic Books
*10:30-11:30AM Autographs: Peter Cullen
*11-11:50AM Panel: Activision - Transforming Video Games
*11AM-12:30PM Autographs: Gregg Berger, Stan Bush
*12-12:50PM Panel: "Weird Al" Yankovic, David Kaye - Cartoon Network Transformers Animated
*1-2:50PM Panel: Hasbro Review and Q&A
*1-2PM Autographs: Peter Cullen
*3-3:50PM Transformers Collectors Club Roundtable
*3-4:30pm Autographs: Gregg Berger, David Kaye
*4-4:50 Panel: Peter Cullen
*5PM Showroom closes
*7:15PM Gather and depart for Paramount Studios
*8PM Party at Paramount!
*12AM Return to Convention Center

===Sunday===
*9AM Dealer Set-up
*9:30AM Sales Room and General Admission opens
*Ongoing: Hands-on Demonstration - How to Draw Transformers
*10-10:50AM Panel: Gregg Berger and Michael McConnohie
*11-11:50AM Panel: Hasbro Designer/Tyrese Gibson
*11:30AM-1PM Autographs: Gregg Berger, Michael McConnohie
*12PM-12:50 Panel: Transformers Cosplay
*1-1:50PM Panel: G1 Writers - David Wise, Flint Dille, Bryce Malek, Paul Davids
*1-2:30PM Autographs: Stan Bush, Vince DiCola
*2-3:30PM Autographs: Gregg Berger, Michael McConnohie
*3:00PM Drawing for trips to 2010 Convention
*4PM ALL EXHIBITS & SALES ROOM CLOSE

==Trivia==
* In one of the odder celebrity-related moments at a BotCon thus far, famed director [[wikipedia:Guillermo_del_Toro|Guillermo del Toro]] showed up on [http://www.botcon.com/BotCon09/webfiles/DSC_2031.JPG.html Sunday] with his daughters, who are evidently big fans of ''Transformers Animated''.

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