https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=65.255.67.229MediaWiki - User contributions [en]2026-05-25T05:26:02ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.45.3https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Unicron_Singularity&diff=57729Talk:Unicron Singularity2006-12-19T00:34:10Z<p>65.255.67.229: /* GF */</p>
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<div>The last sentence is the best thing ever. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 22:49, 5 November 2006 (UTC)<br />
== GF ==<br />
I edited the GF note, as GF does state the dark god was sealed away in a matrix-type object in the distant past, which is much more specific.<br />
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::With the information provided in the GF DVD releases, can't we stop denying the obvious and just call the guy Unicron? The only reason I can see for them not saying it in GF is because it was overused in the last two shows.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Super_Energon&diff=99091Super Energon2006-12-19T00:23:37Z<p>65.255.67.229: /* Fun Publications Cybertron Club Comic */</p>
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<div>===Transformers Energon===<br />
Super Energon is the name given to a bright blue colored Energon in the series that was hidden at the core of Cybertron. It is identified as a prophetic fuel that meant "hope" for the Tranformers race. It would eventually be used to upgrade [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron[[ and [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], as well as increase the size of some curious [[Insecticon (Energon)|Insecticons]]. A striking trait of the fuel was that it was so powerful, it destroyed many [[Divebomb (Energon)|Divebomb]] [[terrorcon (Energon)|terrorcons]] as their bodies tried to reformat it into [[Energon Stars]]. <br />
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The Super Energon also eventually caused Galvatron to grow to planet size, serving as the new body and host of the evil [[Unicron]]. At the end of the Energon series, [[Primus]] used the Super Energon to power a new sun. It was created when Galvatron, posessing the spark of Unicron, dove into it, igniting it and saving the Q-system from destruction.<br />
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The Super Energon-created sun would not last forever, as the breakdown of Unicron's spark within led to a colapse and the creation of the [[Unicron Singularity]].<br />
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===Fun Publications Cybertron Club Comic===<br />
In this story, The Autobot [[Downshift (Energon)|Downshift]] has stayed behind after the evacuation, assigned to guard the entrances to the Energon Core of Cybertron. This insists that the Super Energon at the core still remains, despite most of it being used to create the sun in [[Energon]]. The [[Transformers Universe]] packge bio for Downshift mirrors this tidbit.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Super_Energon&diff=99090Super Energon2006-12-19T00:23:25Z<p>65.255.67.229: /* Transformers Energon */</p>
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<div>===Transformers Energon===<br />
Super Energon is the name given to a bright blue colored Energon in the series that was hidden at the core of Cybertron. It is identified as a prophetic fuel that meant "hope" for the Tranformers race. It would eventually be used to upgrade [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron[[ and [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], as well as increase the size of some curious [[Insecticon (Energon)|Insecticons]]. A striking trait of the fuel was that it was so powerful, it destroyed many [[Divebomb (Energon)|Divebomb]] [[terrorcon (Energon)|terrorcons]] as their bodies tried to reformat it into [[Energon Stars]]. <br />
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The Super Energon also eventually caused Galvatron to grow to planet size, serving as the new body and host of the evil [[Unicron]]. At the end of the Energon series, [[Primus]] used the Super Energon to power a new sun. It was created when Galvatron, posessing the spark of Unicron, dove into it, igniting it and saving the Q-system from destruction.<br />
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The Super Energon-created sun would not last forever, as the breakdown of Unicron's spark within led to a colapse and the creation of the [[Unicron Singularity]].<br />
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==Fun Publications Cybertron Club Comic==<br />
In this story, The Autobot [[Downshift (Energon)|Downshift]] has stayed behind after the evacuation, assigned to guard the entrances to the Energon Core of Cybertron. This insists that the Super Energon at the core still remains, despite most of it being used to create the sun in [[Energon]]. The [[Transformers Universe]] packge bio for Downshift mirrors this tidbit.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Super_Energon&diff=99089Super Energon2006-12-19T00:23:06Z<p>65.255.67.229: </p>
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<div>==Transformers Energon==<br />
Super Energon is the name given to a bright blue colored Energon in the series that was hidden at the core of Cybertron. It is identified as a prophetic fuel that meant "hope" for the Tranformers race. It would eventually be used to upgrade [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron[[ and [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], as well as increase the size of some curious [[Insecticon (Energon)|Insecticons]]. A striking trait of the fuel was that it was so powerful, it destroyed many [[Divebomb (Energon)|Divebomb]] [[terrorcon (Energon)|terrorcons]] as their bodies tried to reformat it into [[Energon Stars]]. <br />
<br />
The Super Energon also eventually caused Galvatron to grow to planet size, serving as the new body and host of the evil [[Unicron]]. At the end of the Energon series, [[Primus]] used the Super Energon to power a new sun. It was created when Galvatron, posessing the spark of Unicron, dove into it, igniting it and saving the Q-system from destruction.<br />
<br />
The Super Energon-created sun would not last forever, as the breakdown of Unicron's spark within led to a colapse and the creation of the [[Unicron Singularity]].<br />
<br />
==Fun Publications Cybertron Club Comic==<br />
In this story, The Autobot [[Downshift (Energon)|Downshift]] has stayed behind after the evacuation, assigned to guard the entrances to the Energon Core of Cybertron. This insists that the Super Energon at the core still remains, despite most of it being used to create the sun in [[Energon]]. The [[Transformers Universe]] packge bio for Downshift mirrors this tidbit.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Superion_Maximus&diff=74552Superion Maximus2006-12-19T00:13:02Z<p>65.255.67.229: </p>
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<div>:''Superion Maximus is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Energon (franchise)|Energon]] portion of the [[Unicron Trilogy]] continuity family.''<br />
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Superion Maximus is one of the ancient Combiner robots to be chosen to guard the Super Energon. Being awakened by Galvatron when his brother was destroyed in stasis, he joined the Autobots and would eventually fight to the death.<br />
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'''Superion Maximus'''.<br />
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''Japanese name:'' '''Superion''' (without the "Maximus")<br />
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==Fiction==<br />
===Animated continuity===<br />
Superion Maximus was featured heavily in the "Powerlinx Battles" portion of Transformers [[Energon]]<br />
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====''Energon''====<br />
After the first defeat of Unicron, [[Omega Supreme (Energon)|Omega Supreme]] and the four guardian combiners fell into a deep stasis, ending the first age of Cybertron. The four combiners were chosen to guard an ancient fuel at the core of Cybertron known as [[Super Energon]]. As stated by [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]], they seem to have actually fought to a standstill and slipped into stasis. <br />
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Possibly acting as a living seal to lock the Super Energon away, the death of Superion's brother caused them to return to life, as well as the emergence of the Super Energon, which filled the pool below.<br />
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Escaping Galvatron, who had reformatted himself and convinced the other combiners to aid him, Superion Maximus would join the Autobots on Cybertron, fighting to take back control of the planet from Galvatron and his minions. Superion Maximus met his apparent demise after a final encounter with [[Bruticus Maximus]] and [[Constructicon Maximus]]. During that battle, he destroyed Constructicon Maximus, pinning him to a wall by ejecting his four limbs and physically attacking his spark. Angered, Bruticus Maximus attacked him and began to crush him in his hands. Just as it seemed hopeless, a ghost-like entity appeared and shot off Bruticus' arm, freeing Superion. It was image of his older brother.<br />
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Superion Maximus, now reduced to just the central combiner robot, powerlinked with Constructicon Maximus' limbs and attacked the confused Bruticus, burning his spark until he exploded. <br />
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Superion was last seen laying against the wall where Constructicon Maximus was killed earlier, still powerlinked to his limbs. His eyes showed a flicker of light as the Energon Sun exploded nearby, bathing the universe in light.<br />
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==Toys==<br />
===Energon===<br />
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==External links==<br />
*[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/SuperionMaximus/superionmaximus.htm Superion Maximus at TFU.info]<br />
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[[Image:Cybertronplanet.jpg|right|thumb|The planet Cybertron, as seen in the original series.]]<br />
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'''Cybertron''' is the home planet of the Transformers and (usually) the body of their creator, [[Primus]].<br />
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It has a number of moons (at least three). It began its existance circling a binary star in Alpha Centauri, but, in many continuities, has left that orbit.<br />
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==Generation 1==<br />
===Marvel Comics===<br />
<br />
Here, Cybertron was the adopted form of [[Primus]]. This origin of the planet states that Primus trapped himself and [[Unicron]] in barren asteriods which they then shaped into their physical forms. In this continuity it does not seem that Primus designed his body to transform as it can in some others, but rather simply to be homeworld to his creations. <br />
<br />
Cybertron in this continuity is roughly Saturn-sized. (We can chalk the scientific impossibility of that up to Primus, who is a God after all.)<br />
<br />
'''Significant Locations'''<br />
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Cybertron is organized into city-states, the largest and most important being [[Iacon]]. Others include Helix, Kalis, Polyhex, [[Tarn]], and [[Vos]].<br />
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Beneath the sewers the [[Demons in the Darkness]] are locked away. <br />
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At the center of this Cybertron there is a room with a Huge head of Primus on the wall where he sleeps and is watched over by the [[Keeper]].<br />
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===Animated Series===<br />
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As presented in the [[Generation 1]] animated series, Cybertron appeared considerably smaller than the planet Earth. Entirely metallic on the surface, some of the lowest levels of Cybertron consisted of rock and dirt, suggesting an organic beginning to the planet. Its gravity is light enough that humans are able to traverse the surface without any trouble, and it possesses a breathable atmosphere. Water, or at least a substance resembling it, is in evidence on the planet - lake and rivers have been shown to exist, albeit sparingly. Many levels below the surface is the energy-furnace, the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]], and at the heart of the planet is the spherical mega-computer, [[Vector Sigma]]. Cybertron is orbited by at least two unnamed moons, but its own place in the cosmos appears unfixed - in [[1984]], it was clearly shown to exist outside of the [[Milky Way]] galaxy; however, nine million years prior, [[Starscream]] and [[Jetfire|Skyfire]] had been able to fly from the planet to Earth under their own power, suggesting that it may drift freely through space, and had been passing through the Sol System at that point, going on to drift out of the galaxy over the ensuing millennia.<br />
<br />
If the assorted colourful exclamations made by numerous Transformers are anything to go by, Cybertron also plays host to a vast array of fauna, including but not limited to: ant-droids, bolt-bats, cyber-ducks, dynametal ducks, electro-toads, glitch-mice, guineapigatrons, helio-hamsters, hydro-weasels, photovoltaic pussycats, retro-rats, robo-rats, sheepacrons, titanium moose-bots, turbo-foxes, zap-mice and robotopossums.<br />
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In it's earliest recorded days, twelve million years ago, Cybertron was a factory used by the multi-faced aliens the [[Quintesson]]s to manufacture their robot creations. Notably, the origins of the planet are never explicitly stated - the Quintessons may have built it, terraformed an organic world, or colonised an existing metal planet. Whatever the case, after a million years, the Quintessons were forced to abandon Cybertron when their robots evolved true sentience and feelings, and knew they were being used as slaves, rebellinb in the First Cybertonian War. The second war was soon to come, however, when the robots splintered into two factions - the peace-loving [[Autobot|Autobots]] and the war-mongering [[Decepticons]] - and began fighting amongst themselves. With the Autobots' innovation of transformation, they were able to win - or at least stalemate - the war, and a period of peace descended on Cybertron, which shone with a healthy golden glow, distinguishing the period as the "Golden Age."<br />
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Eventually, however, Decepticons adopted transformation as well, along with robot-mode flight powers, and around nine million years ago, the creation of the Decepticon [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] re-ignited the war on Cybertron. Megatron rallied like-minded individuals to his cause, and brainwashed others into his service, quickly killing the current Autobot leader in a strke on one of Iacon's outer cities. With this act kept out of the public knowledge, rumours circulated as Autobot machinesmith [[Alpha Trion]] worked dilligently on a new process to reconstruct Autobots into battle-hardy configurations for the war he knew was coming. That war finally erupted in full when Megatron fatally injured a naive young dock worker, [[Orion Pax]], and Alpha Trion made him the first subject of his new process, reconstructing him into [[Optimus Prime]], who would lead the Autobots in the Third Cybertronian War.<br />
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After a further five million years of war, during which many Autobots fled the planet, the Decepticons had acquired a large hold on the planet, with the majority of it under their control. The main Autobot force continued to operate from the capital city-state of Iacon, but Cybertron's energy levels were depleted to a dangerous low, necessitating a space mission to locate a new planet with new sources of energy that the Transformers could harness. Optimus Prime led his best and brightest on [[Ark (G1)|The Ark]], but they were pursued by Megatron's elite troops, and all were stranded in stasis on Earth for four million years.<br />
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In the ensuing four million years, Shockwave, who Megatron had left in charge as guardian of the planet, maintained the Decepticon hold on the planet, though he was unaware of the continued guerilla efforts of [[Elita One]]'s [[Female Autobots]] to undermine him as they raided his energy supplies. Eventually, Cybertron's energy level dipped so low as to put the planet in immediate, mortal danger. Re-establishing contact with Megatron, who had awoken with the other Transformers on Earth in the year 1984, Shockwave co-designed the [[Space Bridge]], an intergalactic transport system that could transport [[Energon]] Cubes from Earth to Cybertron, abating the planet's impending doom.<br />
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Cybertron's place in the universe was forcibly altered in 1984 when the Decepticons constructed a colossal Space Bridge that actually transported the entire planet into the Sol system, into Earth's orbit, where its gravity wreaked havoc with the planet's natural balance, unleashing an uneding torrent of energy created by natural disasters. The energy acquired re-energised Cybertron enough to put it out of the danger zone, but the planet was soon knocked out of orbit by a massive Energon explosion, and set drifting off through the solar system. At this closer ranger, Cybertron remained easily accessed throughout 1985 at least, with the Autobots now able to reach it by conventional transportation ([[Omega Supreme]]), rather than having to constantly hijack use of the spacebridge.<br />
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By the Earth year 2005, Cybertron had exited the Sol system, but, remaining within the Milky Way, was still relatively easily accessible by shuttlecraft from Earth. By this time, the Decepticon forces had succeeded in conquering the entire planet, forcing all the Autobots off it, leading them to relocate to [[Autobot City]] on Earth, and to two staging ground bases on two of Cybertron's moons. It was at this time that Cybertron came under attack from the world-eater, [[Unicron]], who consumed the two moonbases and assaulted Cybertron itself, only to be destroyed by the power of the [[Matrix_of_Leadership|Autobot Matrix of Leadership]]. His deactivated, decapitated head fell into orbit around Cybertron, a grisly new satellite to replace those he had destroyed. With the Decepticon forces in disarray after Unicron's attack, [[Rodimus Prime]] and his troops succeeded in driving their foes off Cybertron, reclaiming the planet for the Autobots, restoring and re-energising much of the planet by 2006, when the world came under frequent attacks from the returning Quintessons, whose previously-secret history with the Transformers came to light.<br />
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In the year 2007, Cybertron was once again wrenched from its place in space when [[Galvatron]] and the Decepticons invaded the planet and constructed a massive planetary engine that propelled Cybertron back into Earth orbit once more. Once there, Galvatron opened the Plasma Energy Chamber, intending for the energy release to drive the Sun supernova, consuming Earth, Cybertron and everything else in one final destructive blow. [[Spike Witwicky]] and the Autobots' [[Nebulan]] allies were able to stop this plan by reversing the rocket engine, which drained off the excess solar energy and channeled it straight into Vector Sigma, which used it to full re-energise Cybertron. Its rich golden hue restored, Cybertron entered a new Golden Age.<br />
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====Japanese Series====<br />
While the American ''Transformers'' series was concluded with the three-part miniseries, "[[The Rebirth]]", depicting the 2007 events noted above, in Japan it was opted to continue the series, and so "The Rebirth" was disregarded in favour of producing ''[[Headmasters (television series)|Transformers: The Headmasters]]'', a full-length 35-episode series set in the year 2011.<br />
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In 2011, it was discovered that the release of the energy of the Matrix by Optimus Prime to cure the [[Hate Plague]] had much more far-reaching consequences that anyone suspected. With the Matrix's energy depleted, Vector Sigma's balance - permanently tilted in favour of the Autobots by the existence of the Matrix - was reset to neutrality, allowing the Decepticons, bolstered by their new [[Headmaster]] troops, to freely invade Cybertron ''(known as '''Seibertron''' in Japan)''. Eventually, this forced Optimus Prime to sacrifice his life by merging with Vector Sigma in order to stabilise the computer before it destroyed Cybertron from within.<br />
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Not long thereafter, Vector Sigma developed a new metal alloy dubbed Cybertonuron, which enticed Galvatron into another raid on the planet. However, the Decepticon Headmaster leader, [[Zarak]], feared the power that Galvatron would gain from the alloy, and so, to prevent either him or the Autobots from obtaining it, arranged for his Headmasters to plant bombs at the core of the planet, within Vector Sigma's chamber. The Autobots were unable to stop the countdown and the bombs detonating, tearing Cybertron apart and leaving it a charred uninhabitable ruin drifting in space.<br />
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''The [[Cybertron Federation]] apparently worked together to rebuild Cybertron during the period of peace between Generation 1 and Generation 2''<br />
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==Beast Era==<br />
===Beast Wars/Beast Machines===<br />
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Little is directly known about Beast Wars era Cybertron, aside from what can be inferred from Generation 1.<br />
It IS in orbit around a star which it shares with several other unnamed planets. It has several moons, one with big gashes in its surface.<br />
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300 years after the signing of the Pax Cybertronia, the Maximals dominate Cybertron. The Maximal city of [[Cybertropolis]] had been build over the ruins of [[Iacon]]. [[Six Lasers Over Cybertron]] is an amusement park found there in this era. Among the examples of cultural refinement are some joints where the servers go around without their torso plates on.<br />
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[[Beast Machines]] returned to Cybertron, and likewise described it as once a natural world, hosting organic life (including gigantic bat and eagle-like creatures). Some of that life was apparently sentient since the [[Oracle]] computer foretold the coming of robots to the planet. What exactly happened to this world remains a mystery, though it could also be theorized that the [[Quintesson]] empire terra-formed and converted the planet to an entirely robotic/metallic city-world we know. The only remains of organic life were a few remnants of plant life far, far below, and a strange green organic ooze buried deep beneath the rocky core of the world that had the ability to enhance the life force of any living thing and super-charge organic growth.<br />
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At the end of Beast Machines the planet was transformed into a new [[Technorganic]] state.<br />
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==Unicron Trilogy==<br />
In the Unicron Trilogy, Cybertron is revealed to be the body of [[Primus]]. Much like the versions of Cybertron before it, it is a metallic planet that is damaged by conflict. Cybertron maintains an atmosphere that can sustain human life, but only when the planet itself is at power and in a stable condition. Cybertron existed in an unnamed system until the Energon series, where it was pulled from orbit and pushed into another universe that [[Alpha Quintesson]] had created. <br />
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In Energon, Cybertron was equipped with a system of Energon Towers that could surround the planet with a protective field, which has since been disabled due to Decepticon attack.<br />
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Cybertron had at least one known moon in the Armada series that turned out to be either the depowered body of Unicron, or one that was eventually made the host for his new body in the series. <br />
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Through the ages, Cybertron has had many repairs, causing new "layers" to be added to the surface of the planet. Deep within the core is a pool of Super Energon that was once guarded by the four ancient combiners, [[Superion Maximus]], his brother, [[Constructicon Maximus]], and [[Bruticus Maximus]]. <br />
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At the end of the Energon series, Cybertron was granted a new sun when Primus trapped Unicron's spark within a ball of Super Energon, igniting it. This sun would eventually colapse, becoming the [[Unicron Singularity]]. <br />
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It is unknown how large Cybertron is in his continuity, but it is most likely the size of earth or smaller. <br />
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In the [[Cybertron]] series, much of the planet had been repaired, including the construction of a "Sky Dome" headquarters where important meetings are held. This structure housed the artifacts that were used to mount the Omega Lock, which unlock the robot form of Cybertron.<br />
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===Universe===<br />
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Takes place in part on the post-BM Technorganic Cybertron.<br />
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==Dreamwave==<br />
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The only continuity in which Cybertron has been mapped to some extent. A map of one hemisphere of the planet appears in the DK Transformers Ultimate Guide. <br />
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==IDW==<br />
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Some time ago, the constant fighting and the stripping of Cybertron's natural resources by both Autobot and Decepticon to feed their age-long war led to a terrible cataclysm that rendered Cybertron uninhabitable. As of the present day, it is a dead planet.<br />
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With no atmosphere, Cybertron's surface is unprotected from cosmic radiation and is wracked by plasma storms. Transformers must divert energy to their personal shielding in order to remain on the surface for short periods; the surface presumably immediately lethal for humans. The Transformer race has abandoned the planet (save for occasional scientific surveys from orbit) and is now conducting its conflict across the galaxy.<br />
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Landing on Cybertron is forbidden.<ref>[[Stormbringer, Part 1]]</ref><br />
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==External Links==<br />
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[http://tinyurl.com/hqwk/zacwilliam1/CyberAtlas.html Cybertron Atlas]<br />
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==Footnotes==<br />
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[[Category:Planet Cybertron| ]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Cybertron_(planet)&diff=3896Cybertron (planet)2006-12-18T23:59:55Z<p>65.255.67.229: /* Unicron Trilogy */</p>
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<div>{{Template:Disambig3|Cybertron}}<br />
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[[Image:Cybertronplanet.jpg|right|thumb|The planet Cybertron, as seen in the original series.]]<br />
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'''Cybertron''' is the home planet of the Transformers and (usually) the body of their creator, [[Primus]].<br />
<br />
It has a number of moons (at least three). It began its existance circling a binary star in Alpha Centauri, but, in many continuities, has left that orbit.<br />
<br />
<br />
==Generation 1==<br />
===Marvel Comics===<br />
<br />
Here, Cybertron was the adopted form of [[Primus]]. This origin of the planet states that Primus trapped himself and [[Unicron]] in barren asteriods which they then shaped into their physical forms. In this continuity it does not seem that Primus designed his body to transform as it can in some others, but rather simply to be homeworld to his creations. <br />
<br />
Cybertron in this continuity is roughly Saturn-sized. (We can chalk the scientific impossibility of that up to Primus, who is a God after all.)<br />
<br />
'''Significant Locations'''<br />
<br />
Cybertron is organized into city-states, the largest and most important being [[Iacon]]. Others include Helix, Kalis, Polyhex, [[Tarn]], and [[Vos]].<br />
<br />
Beneath the sewers the [[Demons in the Darkness]] are locked away. <br />
<br />
At the center of this Cybertron there is a room with a Huge head of Primus on the wall where he sleeps and is watched over by the [[Keeper]].<br />
<br />
===Animated Series===<br />
<br />
As presented in the [[Generation 1]] animated series, Cybertron appeared considerably smaller than the planet Earth. Entirely metallic on the surface, some of the lowest levels of Cybertron consisted of rock and dirt, suggesting an organic beginning to the planet. Its gravity is light enough that humans are able to traverse the surface without any trouble, and it possesses a breathable atmosphere. Water, or at least a substance resembling it, is in evidence on the planet - lake and rivers have been shown to exist, albeit sparingly. Many levels below the surface is the energy-furnace, the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]], and at the heart of the planet is the spherical mega-computer, [[Vector Sigma]]. Cybertron is orbited by at least two unnamed moons, but its own place in the cosmos appears unfixed - in [[1984]], it was clearly shown to exist outside of the [[Milky Way]] galaxy; however, nine million years prior, [[Starscream]] and [[Jetfire|Skyfire]] had been able to fly from the planet to Earth under their own power, suggesting that it may drift freely through space, and had been passing through the Sol System at that point, going on to drift out of the galaxy over the ensuing millennia.<br />
<br />
If the assorted colourful exclamations made by numerous Transformers are anything to go by, Cybertron also plays host to a vast array of fauna, including but not limited to: ant-droids, bolt-bats, cyber-ducks, dynametal ducks, electro-toads, glitch-mice, guineapigatrons, helio-hamsters, hydro-weasels, photovoltaic pussycats, retro-rats, robo-rats, sheepacrons, titanium moose-bots, turbo-foxes, zap-mice and robotopossums.<br />
<br />
In it's earliest recorded days, twelve million years ago, Cybertron was a factory used by the multi-faced aliens the [[Quintesson]]s to manufacture their robot creations. Notably, the origins of the planet are never explicitly stated - the Quintessons may have built it, terraformed an organic world, or colonised an existing metal planet. Whatever the case, after a million years, the Quintessons were forced to abandon Cybertron when their robots evolved true sentience and feelings, and knew they were being used as slaves, rebellinb in the First Cybertonian War. The second war was soon to come, however, when the robots splintered into two factions - the peace-loving [[Autobot|Autobots]] and the war-mongering [[Decepticons]] - and began fighting amongst themselves. With the Autobots' innovation of transformation, they were able to win - or at least stalemate - the war, and a period of peace descended on Cybertron, which shone with a healthy golden glow, distinguishing the period as the "Golden Age."<br />
<br />
Eventually, however, Decepticons adopted transformation as well, along with robot-mode flight powers, and around nine million years ago, the creation of the Decepticon [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] re-ignited the war on Cybertron. Megatron rallied like-minded individuals to his cause, and brainwashed others into his service, quickly killing the current Autobot leader in a strke on one of Iacon's outer cities. With this act kept out of the public knowledge, rumours circulated as Autobot machinesmith [[Alpha Trion]] worked dilligently on a new process to reconstruct Autobots into battle-hardy configurations for the war he knew was coming. That war finally erupted in full when Megatron fatally injured a naive young dock worker, [[Orion Pax]], and Alpha Trion made him the first subject of his new process, reconstructing him into [[Optimus Prime]], who would lead the Autobots in the Third Cybertronian War.<br />
<br />
After a further five million years of war, during which many Autobots fled the planet, the Decepticons had acquired a large hold on the planet, with the majority of it under their control. The main Autobot force continued to operate from the capital city-state of Iacon, but Cybertron's energy levels were depleted to a dangerous low, necessitating a space mission to locate a new planet with new sources of energy that the Transformers could harness. Optimus Prime led his best and brightest on [[Ark (G1)|The Ark]], but they were pursued by Megatron's elite troops, and all were stranded in stasis on Earth for four million years.<br />
<br />
In the ensuing four million years, Shockwave, who Megatron had left in charge as guardian of the planet, maintained the Decepticon hold on the planet, though he was unaware of the continued guerilla efforts of [[Elita One]]'s [[Female Autobots]] to undermine him as they raided his energy supplies. Eventually, Cybertron's energy level dipped so low as to put the planet in immediate, mortal danger. Re-establishing contact with Megatron, who had awoken with the other Transformers on Earth in the year 1984, Shockwave co-designed the [[Space Bridge]], an intergalactic transport system that could transport [[Energon]] Cubes from Earth to Cybertron, abating the planet's impending doom.<br />
<br />
Cybertron's place in the universe was forcibly altered in 1984 when the Decepticons constructed a colossal Space Bridge that actually transported the entire planet into the Sol system, into Earth's orbit, where its gravity wreaked havoc with the planet's natural balance, unleashing an uneding torrent of energy created by natural disasters. The energy acquired re-energised Cybertron enough to put it out of the danger zone, but the planet was soon knocked out of orbit by a massive Energon explosion, and set drifting off through the solar system. At this closer ranger, Cybertron remained easily accessed throughout 1985 at least, with the Autobots now able to reach it by conventional transportation ([[Omega Supreme]]), rather than having to constantly hijack use of the spacebridge.<br />
<br />
By the Earth year 2005, Cybertron had exited the Sol system, but, remaining within the Milky Way, was still relatively easily accessible by shuttlecraft from Earth. By this time, the Decepticon forces had succeeded in conquering the entire planet, forcing all the Autobots off it, leading them to relocate to [[Autobot City]] on Earth, and to two staging ground bases on two of Cybertron's moons. It was at this time that Cybertron came under attack from the world-eater, [[Unicron]], who consumed the two moonbases and assaulted Cybertron itself, only to be destroyed by the power of the [[Matrix_of_Leadership|Autobot Matrix of Leadership]]. His deactivated, decapitated head fell into orbit around Cybertron, a grisly new satellite to replace those he had destroyed. With the Decepticon forces in disarray after Unicron's attack, [[Rodimus Prime]] and his troops succeeded in driving their foes off Cybertron, reclaiming the planet for the Autobots, restoring and re-energising much of the planet by 2006, when the world came under frequent attacks from the returning Quintessons, whose previously-secret history with the Transformers came to light.<br />
<br />
In the year 2007, Cybertron was once again wrenched from its place in space when [[Galvatron]] and the Decepticons invaded the planet and constructed a massive planetary engine that propelled Cybertron back into Earth orbit once more. Once there, Galvatron opened the Plasma Energy Chamber, intending for the energy release to drive the Sun supernova, consuming Earth, Cybertron and everything else in one final destructive blow. [[Spike Witwicky]] and the Autobots' [[Nebulan]] allies were able to stop this plan by reversing the rocket engine, which drained off the excess solar energy and channeled it straight into Vector Sigma, which used it to full re-energise Cybertron. Its rich golden hue restored, Cybertron entered a new Golden Age.<br />
<br />
====Japanese Series====<br />
While the American ''Transformers'' series was concluded with the three-part miniseries, "[[The Rebirth]]", depicting the 2007 events noted above, in Japan it was opted to continue the series, and so "The Rebirth" was disregarded in favour of producing ''[[Headmasters (television series)|Transformers: The Headmasters]]'', a full-length 35-episode series set in the year 2011.<br />
<br />
In 2011, it was discovered that the release of the energy of the Matrix by Optimus Prime to cure the [[Hate Plague]] had much more far-reaching consequences that anyone suspected. With the Matrix's energy depleted, Vector Sigma's balance - permanently tilted in favour of the Autobots by the existence of the Matrix - was reset to neutrality, allowing the Decepticons, bolstered by their new [[Headmaster]] troops, to freely invade Cybertron ''(known as '''Seibertron''' in Japan)''. Eventually, this forced Optimus Prime to sacrifice his life by merging with Vector Sigma in order to stabilise the computer before it destroyed Cybertron from within.<br />
<br />
Not long thereafter, Vector Sigma developed a new metal alloy dubbed Cybertonuron, which enticed Galvatron into another raid on the planet. However, the Decepticon Headmaster leader, [[Zarak]], feared the power that Galvatron would gain from the alloy, and so, to prevent either him or the Autobots from obtaining it, arranged for his Headmasters to plant bombs at the core of the planet, within Vector Sigma's chamber. The Autobots were unable to stop the countdown and the bombs detonating, tearing Cybertron apart and leaving it a charred uninhabitable ruin drifting in space.<br />
<br />
''The [[Cybertron Federation]] apparently worked together to rebuild Cybertron during the period of peace between Generation 1 and Generation 2''<br />
<br />
==Beast Era==<br />
===Beast Wars/Beast Machines===<br />
<br />
Little is directly known about Beast Wars era Cybertron, aside from what can be inferred from Generation 1.<br />
It IS in orbit around a star which it shares with several other unnamed planets. It has several moons, one with big gashes in its surface.<br />
<br />
300 years after the signing of the Pax Cybertronia, the Maximals dominate Cybertron. The Maximal city of [[Cybertropolis]] had been build over the ruins of [[Iacon]]. [[Six Lasers Over Cybertron]] is an amusement park found there in this era. Among the examples of cultural refinement are some joints where the servers go around without their torso plates on.<br />
<br />
[[Beast Machines]] returned to Cybertron, and likewise described it as once a natural world, hosting organic life (including gigantic bat and eagle-like creatures). Some of that life was apparently sentient since the [[Oracle]] computer foretold the coming of robots to the planet. What exactly happened to this world remains a mystery, though it could also be theorized that the [[Quintesson]] empire terra-formed and converted the planet to an entirely robotic/metallic city-world we know. The only remains of organic life were a few remnants of plant life far, far below, and a strange green organic ooze buried deep beneath the rocky core of the world that had the ability to enhance the life force of any living thing and super-charge organic growth.<br />
<br />
At the end of Beast Machines the planet was transformed into a new [[Technorganic]] state.<br />
<br />
==Unicron Trilogy==<br />
In the Unicron Trilogy, Cybertron is revealed to be the body of [[Primus]]. Much like the versions of Cybertron before it, it is a metallic planet that is damaged by conflict. Cybertron maintains an atmosphere that can sustain human life, but only when the planet itself is at power and in a stable condition. Cybertron existed in an unnamed system until the Energon series, where it was pulled from orbit and pushed into another universe that [[Alpha Quintesson]] had created. <br />
<br />
In Energon, Cybertron was equipped with a system of Energon Towers that could surround the planet with a protective field, which has sense been disabled due to Decepticon attack.<br />
<br />
Cybertron had at least one known moon in the Armada series that turned out to be either the depowered body of Unicron, or one that was eventually made the host for his new body in the series. <br />
<br />
Through the ages, Cybertron has had many repairs, causing new "layers" to be added to the surface of the planet. Deep within the core is a pool of Super Energon that was once guarded by the four ancient combiners, [[Superion Maximus]], his brother, [[Constructicon Maximus]], and [[Bruticus Maximus]]. <br />
<br />
At the end of the Energon series, Cybertron was granted a new sun when Primus trapped Unicron's spark within a ball of Super Energon, igniting it. This sun would eventually colapse, becoming the [[Unicron Singularity]]. <br />
<br />
It is unknown how large Cybertron is in his continuity, but it is most likely the size of earth or smaller. <br />
<br />
In the [[Cybertron]] series, much of the planet had been repaired, including the construction of a "Sky Dome" headquarters where important meetings are held. This structure housed the artifacts that were used to mount the Omega Lock, which unlock the robot form of Cybertron.<br />
<br />
===Universe===<br />
<br />
Takes place in part on the post-BM Technorganic Cybertron.<br />
<br />
==Dreamwave==<br />
<br />
The only continuity in which Cybertron has been mapped to some extent. A map of one hemisphere of the planet appears in the DK Transformers Ultimate Guide. <br />
<br />
==IDW==<br />
<br />
Some time ago, the constant fighting and the stripping of Cybertron's natural resources by both Autobot and Decepticon to feed their age-long war led to a terrible cataclysm that rendered Cybertron uninhabitable. As of the present day, it is a dead planet.<br />
<br />
With no atmosphere, Cybertron's surface is unprotected from cosmic radiation and is wracked by plasma storms. Transformers must divert energy to their personal shielding in order to remain on the surface for short periods; the surface presumably immediately lethal for humans. The Transformer race has abandoned the planet (save for occasional scientific surveys from orbit) and is now conducting its conflict across the galaxy.<br />
<br />
Landing on Cybertron is forbidden.<ref>[[Stormbringer, Part 1]]</ref><br />
<br />
==External Links==<br />
<br />
[http://tinyurl.com/hqwk/zacwilliam1/CyberAtlas.html Cybertron Atlas]<br />
<br />
==Footnotes==<br />
<references /><br />
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[[Category:Planet Cybertron| ]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Cybertron_(planet)&diff=3895Cybertron (planet)2006-12-18T23:59:28Z<p>65.255.67.229: /* Universe */</p>
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[[Image:Cybertronplanet.jpg|right|thumb|The planet Cybertron, as seen in the original series.]]<br />
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'''Cybertron''' is the home planet of the Transformers and (usually) the body of their creator, [[Primus]].<br />
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It has a number of moons (at least three). It began its existance circling a binary star in Alpha Centauri, but, in many continuities, has left that orbit.<br />
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==Generation 1==<br />
===Marvel Comics===<br />
<br />
Here, Cybertron was the adopted form of [[Primus]]. This origin of the planet states that Primus trapped himself and [[Unicron]] in barren asteriods which they then shaped into their physical forms. In this continuity it does not seem that Primus designed his body to transform as it can in some others, but rather simply to be homeworld to his creations. <br />
<br />
Cybertron in this continuity is roughly Saturn-sized. (We can chalk the scientific impossibility of that up to Primus, who is a God after all.)<br />
<br />
'''Significant Locations'''<br />
<br />
Cybertron is organized into city-states, the largest and most important being [[Iacon]]. Others include Helix, Kalis, Polyhex, [[Tarn]], and [[Vos]].<br />
<br />
Beneath the sewers the [[Demons in the Darkness]] are locked away. <br />
<br />
At the center of this Cybertron there is a room with a Huge head of Primus on the wall where he sleeps and is watched over by the [[Keeper]].<br />
<br />
===Animated Series===<br />
<br />
As presented in the [[Generation 1]] animated series, Cybertron appeared considerably smaller than the planet Earth. Entirely metallic on the surface, some of the lowest levels of Cybertron consisted of rock and dirt, suggesting an organic beginning to the planet. Its gravity is light enough that humans are able to traverse the surface without any trouble, and it possesses a breathable atmosphere. Water, or at least a substance resembling it, is in evidence on the planet - lake and rivers have been shown to exist, albeit sparingly. Many levels below the surface is the energy-furnace, the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]], and at the heart of the planet is the spherical mega-computer, [[Vector Sigma]]. Cybertron is orbited by at least two unnamed moons, but its own place in the cosmos appears unfixed - in [[1984]], it was clearly shown to exist outside of the [[Milky Way]] galaxy; however, nine million years prior, [[Starscream]] and [[Jetfire|Skyfire]] had been able to fly from the planet to Earth under their own power, suggesting that it may drift freely through space, and had been passing through the Sol System at that point, going on to drift out of the galaxy over the ensuing millennia.<br />
<br />
If the assorted colourful exclamations made by numerous Transformers are anything to go by, Cybertron also plays host to a vast array of fauna, including but not limited to: ant-droids, bolt-bats, cyber-ducks, dynametal ducks, electro-toads, glitch-mice, guineapigatrons, helio-hamsters, hydro-weasels, photovoltaic pussycats, retro-rats, robo-rats, sheepacrons, titanium moose-bots, turbo-foxes, zap-mice and robotopossums.<br />
<br />
In it's earliest recorded days, twelve million years ago, Cybertron was a factory used by the multi-faced aliens the [[Quintesson]]s to manufacture their robot creations. Notably, the origins of the planet are never explicitly stated - the Quintessons may have built it, terraformed an organic world, or colonised an existing metal planet. Whatever the case, after a million years, the Quintessons were forced to abandon Cybertron when their robots evolved true sentience and feelings, and knew they were being used as slaves, rebellinb in the First Cybertonian War. The second war was soon to come, however, when the robots splintered into two factions - the peace-loving [[Autobot|Autobots]] and the war-mongering [[Decepticons]] - and began fighting amongst themselves. With the Autobots' innovation of transformation, they were able to win - or at least stalemate - the war, and a period of peace descended on Cybertron, which shone with a healthy golden glow, distinguishing the period as the "Golden Age."<br />
<br />
Eventually, however, Decepticons adopted transformation as well, along with robot-mode flight powers, and around nine million years ago, the creation of the Decepticon [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] re-ignited the war on Cybertron. Megatron rallied like-minded individuals to his cause, and brainwashed others into his service, quickly killing the current Autobot leader in a strke on one of Iacon's outer cities. With this act kept out of the public knowledge, rumours circulated as Autobot machinesmith [[Alpha Trion]] worked dilligently on a new process to reconstruct Autobots into battle-hardy configurations for the war he knew was coming. That war finally erupted in full when Megatron fatally injured a naive young dock worker, [[Orion Pax]], and Alpha Trion made him the first subject of his new process, reconstructing him into [[Optimus Prime]], who would lead the Autobots in the Third Cybertronian War.<br />
<br />
After a further five million years of war, during which many Autobots fled the planet, the Decepticons had acquired a large hold on the planet, with the majority of it under their control. The main Autobot force continued to operate from the capital city-state of Iacon, but Cybertron's energy levels were depleted to a dangerous low, necessitating a space mission to locate a new planet with new sources of energy that the Transformers could harness. Optimus Prime led his best and brightest on [[Ark (G1)|The Ark]], but they were pursued by Megatron's elite troops, and all were stranded in stasis on Earth for four million years.<br />
<br />
In the ensuing four million years, Shockwave, who Megatron had left in charge as guardian of the planet, maintained the Decepticon hold on the planet, though he was unaware of the continued guerilla efforts of [[Elita One]]'s [[Female Autobots]] to undermine him as they raided his energy supplies. Eventually, Cybertron's energy level dipped so low as to put the planet in immediate, mortal danger. Re-establishing contact with Megatron, who had awoken with the other Transformers on Earth in the year 1984, Shockwave co-designed the [[Space Bridge]], an intergalactic transport system that could transport [[Energon]] Cubes from Earth to Cybertron, abating the planet's impending doom.<br />
<br />
Cybertron's place in the universe was forcibly altered in 1984 when the Decepticons constructed a colossal Space Bridge that actually transported the entire planet into the Sol system, into Earth's orbit, where its gravity wreaked havoc with the planet's natural balance, unleashing an uneding torrent of energy created by natural disasters. The energy acquired re-energised Cybertron enough to put it out of the danger zone, but the planet was soon knocked out of orbit by a massive Energon explosion, and set drifting off through the solar system. At this closer ranger, Cybertron remained easily accessed throughout 1985 at least, with the Autobots now able to reach it by conventional transportation ([[Omega Supreme]]), rather than having to constantly hijack use of the spacebridge.<br />
<br />
By the Earth year 2005, Cybertron had exited the Sol system, but, remaining within the Milky Way, was still relatively easily accessible by shuttlecraft from Earth. By this time, the Decepticon forces had succeeded in conquering the entire planet, forcing all the Autobots off it, leading them to relocate to [[Autobot City]] on Earth, and to two staging ground bases on two of Cybertron's moons. It was at this time that Cybertron came under attack from the world-eater, [[Unicron]], who consumed the two moonbases and assaulted Cybertron itself, only to be destroyed by the power of the [[Matrix_of_Leadership|Autobot Matrix of Leadership]]. His deactivated, decapitated head fell into orbit around Cybertron, a grisly new satellite to replace those he had destroyed. With the Decepticon forces in disarray after Unicron's attack, [[Rodimus Prime]] and his troops succeeded in driving their foes off Cybertron, reclaiming the planet for the Autobots, restoring and re-energising much of the planet by 2006, when the world came under frequent attacks from the returning Quintessons, whose previously-secret history with the Transformers came to light.<br />
<br />
In the year 2007, Cybertron was once again wrenched from its place in space when [[Galvatron]] and the Decepticons invaded the planet and constructed a massive planetary engine that propelled Cybertron back into Earth orbit once more. Once there, Galvatron opened the Plasma Energy Chamber, intending for the energy release to drive the Sun supernova, consuming Earth, Cybertron and everything else in one final destructive blow. [[Spike Witwicky]] and the Autobots' [[Nebulan]] allies were able to stop this plan by reversing the rocket engine, which drained off the excess solar energy and channeled it straight into Vector Sigma, which used it to full re-energise Cybertron. Its rich golden hue restored, Cybertron entered a new Golden Age.<br />
<br />
====Japanese Series====<br />
While the American ''Transformers'' series was concluded with the three-part miniseries, "[[The Rebirth]]", depicting the 2007 events noted above, in Japan it was opted to continue the series, and so "The Rebirth" was disregarded in favour of producing ''[[Headmasters (television series)|Transformers: The Headmasters]]'', a full-length 35-episode series set in the year 2011.<br />
<br />
In 2011, it was discovered that the release of the energy of the Matrix by Optimus Prime to cure the [[Hate Plague]] had much more far-reaching consequences that anyone suspected. With the Matrix's energy depleted, Vector Sigma's balance - permanently tilted in favour of the Autobots by the existence of the Matrix - was reset to neutrality, allowing the Decepticons, bolstered by their new [[Headmaster]] troops, to freely invade Cybertron ''(known as '''Seibertron''' in Japan)''. Eventually, this forced Optimus Prime to sacrifice his life by merging with Vector Sigma in order to stabilise the computer before it destroyed Cybertron from within.<br />
<br />
Not long thereafter, Vector Sigma developed a new metal alloy dubbed Cybertonuron, which enticed Galvatron into another raid on the planet. However, the Decepticon Headmaster leader, [[Zarak]], feared the power that Galvatron would gain from the alloy, and so, to prevent either him or the Autobots from obtaining it, arranged for his Headmasters to plant bombs at the core of the planet, within Vector Sigma's chamber. The Autobots were unable to stop the countdown and the bombs detonating, tearing Cybertron apart and leaving it a charred uninhabitable ruin drifting in space.<br />
<br />
''The [[Cybertron Federation]] apparently worked together to rebuild Cybertron during the period of peace between Generation 1 and Generation 2''<br />
<br />
==Beast Era==<br />
===Beast Wars/Beast Machines===<br />
<br />
Little is directly known about Beast Wars era Cybertron, aside from what can be inferred from Generation 1.<br />
It IS in orbit around a star which it shares with several other unnamed planets. It has several moons, one with big gashes in its surface.<br />
<br />
300 years after the signing of the Pax Cybertronia, the Maximals dominate Cybertron. The Maximal city of [[Cybertropolis]] had been build over the ruins of [[Iacon]]. [[Six Lasers Over Cybertron]] is an amusement park found there in this era. Among the examples of cultural refinement are some joints where the servers go around without their torso plates on.<br />
<br />
[[Beast Machines]] returned to Cybertron, and likewise described it as once a natural world, hosting organic life (including gigantic bat and eagle-like creatures). Some of that life was apparently sentient since the [[Oracle]] computer foretold the coming of robots to the planet. What exactly happened to this world remains a mystery, though it could also be theorized that the [[Quintesson]] empire terra-formed and converted the planet to an entirely robotic/metallic city-world we know. The only remains of organic life were a few remnants of plant life far, far below, and a strange green organic ooze buried deep beneath the rocky core of the world that had the ability to enhance the life force of any living thing and super-charge organic growth.<br />
<br />
At the end of Beast Machines the planet was transformed into a new [[Technorganic]] state.<br />
<br />
===Unicron Trilogy===<br />
In the Unicron Trilogy, Cybertron is revealed to be the body of [[Primus]]. Much like the versions of Cybertron before it, it is a metallic planet that is damaged by conflict. Cybertron maintains an atmosphere that can sustain human life, but only when the planet itself is at power and in a stable condition. Cybertron existed in an unnamed system until the Energon series, where it was pulled from orbit and pushed into another universe that [[Alpha Quintesson]] had created. <br />
<br />
In Energon, Cybertron was equipped with a system of Energon Towers that could surround the planet with a protective field, which has sense been disabled due to Decepticon attack.<br />
<br />
Cybertron had at least one known moon in the Armada series that turned out to be either the depowered body of Unicron, or one that was eventually made the host for his new body in the series. <br />
<br />
Through the ages, Cybertron has had many repairs, causing new "layers" to be added to the surface of the planet. Deep within the core is a pool of Super Energon that was once guarded by the four ancient combiners, [[Superion Maximus]], his brother, [[Constructicon Maximus]], and [[Bruticus Maximus]]. <br />
<br />
At the end of the Energon series, Cybertron was granted a new sun when Primus trapped Unicron's spark within a ball of Super Energon, igniting it. This sun would eventually colapse, becoming the [[Unicron Singularity]]. <br />
<br />
It is unknown how large Cybertron is in his continuity, but it is most likely the size of earth or smaller. <br />
<br />
In the [[Cybertron]] series, much of the planet had been repaired, including the construction of a "Sky Dome" headquarters where important meetings are held. This structure housed the artifacts that were used to mount the Omega Lock, which unlock the robot form of Cybertron. <br />
<br />
<br />
===Universe===<br />
<br />
Takes place in part on the post-BM Technorganic Cybertron.<br />
<br />
==Dreamwave==<br />
<br />
The only continuity in which Cybertron has been mapped to some extent. A map of one hemisphere of the planet appears in the DK Transformers Ultimate Guide. <br />
<br />
==IDW==<br />
<br />
Some time ago, the constant fighting and the stripping of Cybertron's natural resources by both Autobot and Decepticon to feed their age-long war led to a terrible cataclysm that rendered Cybertron uninhabitable. As of the present day, it is a dead planet.<br />
<br />
With no atmosphere, Cybertron's surface is unprotected from cosmic radiation and is wracked by plasma storms. Transformers must divert energy to their personal shielding in order to remain on the surface for short periods; the surface presumably immediately lethal for humans. The Transformer race has abandoned the planet (save for occasional scientific surveys from orbit) and is now conducting its conflict across the galaxy.<br />
<br />
Landing on Cybertron is forbidden.<ref>[[Stormbringer, Part 1]]</ref><br />
<br />
==External Links==<br />
<br />
[http://tinyurl.com/hqwk/zacwilliam1/CyberAtlas.html Cybertron Atlas]<br />
<br />
==Footnotes==<br />
<references /><br />
<br />
{{stub}}<br />
[[Category:Planets]]<br />
[[Category:Planet Cybertron| ]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Cybertron_(franchise)&diff=85689Talk:Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)2006-12-18T23:17:16Z<p>65.255.67.229: </p>
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<div>The "Galaxy Force has no ties to previous series" stuff needs to be rewritten because it's not so very true anymore. If I'm not mistaken, later information out of Japan, specifically liner notes in the last DVD set, make some of the same connections to previous series that Cybertron did. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:Well, I rewrote it and it was modified back. Did you do this, Walky? Either way, it's incorrect.<br />
::I modified it back and added the last paragraph, which was all that was really needed in the first place. What you changed it to was barely English. The only thing we need to add now are examples and citations, not meandering fanon. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:43, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::Why don't you find something else to do besides throwing insults at me? Nothing I stated was "fan created". You should turn over this wiki to someone who is qualified, instead of running it like a dictator. You aren't better than us. Some would say you're less than us at TFW. Oh, and before you chyme in...I'm not talking to you, Sipher.<br />
:::How is he going to turn it over? Walky doesn't run this wiki at all. No single person does. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 21:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
::: I always love when people in a public discussion forum get pissy over public discussions being publicly discussed. Hilarity abounds. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::::Look, if Willis is going to have ip ban power and throw insults at everyone over anything they input that he disagrees with, he's going to be a target. I don't come here to argue, but I also don't come here to have insults thrown at me because I'm trying to contribute something to the Transformers fandom. It is simply unfair treatment and no one should have to put up with it. Sipher, you and Willis both have a god complex and are the textbook example of what a moderator SHOULD NOT BE. You are exactly like those stupid moderators on various web forums that mistreat board members and even both of you. You think you'd learn from that. I'm not here to argue, but if you throw stones at me, I'm going to be pitching boulders. Be cool. -BC.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Revelations_Part_2&diff=32734Talk:Revelations Part 22006-12-18T22:28:37Z<p>65.255.67.229: </p>
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<div>After recently reading Dreamwave's Energon comics again, I've noticed that Scorponok's death in them does not agree with the Cybertron Club Comic. In the Club Comic, he is shown awakening on Cybertron and wandering into the cities. This doesn't tie to the Energon comic either, because Scorponok was trashed by Galvatron on Earth while Ironhide was helping to install a Cybertron City tower on what was probably Alaska or the North Pole. Scorponok's body was dead on Earth, not Cybertron. -BC<br />
:No, in the Club Comic, Dark Scorponok is shown arriving via some shiny graphical humming thing, due to the big holes in the space-time continuum the Unicron Singularity caused. It was specifically stated that he got on Cybertron the same way Sentinel Maximus got into the UT universe. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::How can you just say "No"? I'm looking at the page right now. Dark Scorponok is shown bursting from the ground outside Iacon city and saying "Must...Eat". The next time he's shown, he's attacking Skyfall outside of his shuttle. He simply wandered into town, pursuing Skyfall because of his immense Energon field. I'm right, as this contradicts either version of Energon. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but at least look at the comic before you call a guy a liar. --DangerDrVenture(Bodycount).<br />
::::1) I did not call you a liar. To be lying you would have to be telling an intentional falsehood. Someone who tells you that you are wrong is calling you a liar.<br />
::::2) Dark Scorponok does not "burst from the ground." In the panel prior to his first appearance, Vector Prime tells Sentinel Maximus that Unicron might influence the anomaly that was used to bring Sentinel Prime to this universe for his own purposes... and then Sentinel Maximus' reaction is narrated over the first panel we see of Dark Scorponok, which implies that these two things are related. Dark Scorponok does not burst from the ground. There are bursts of electricity as Dark Scorponok phazes from nothing out of the ground. The sound effect is "MMMMMMMMMM." Again, he does not "burst out of the ground." There is something supernatural going on. I was indeed "looking at the comic" before I "called you a liar."<br />
::::3) Please use the Preview feature before finalizing your posts, so the entire Recent Changes page is not filled with your numerous minor corrections.<br />
::::--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:48, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::::Okay fine...looking again, the bottom slice of the panel makes it seem he's coming out of the ground, but he seems to be "forming" from the electricity...it is just poorly drawn.<br />
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I'm putting this review up, but I would prefer that information from this story not be integrated into the relevant character pages for a little while. The magazines have yet to arrive in a majority of member households, and while we can probably figure someone has the choice of clicking on this particular review, having "X is dead" at the end of some guy's bio elsewhere might be an unpleasant surprise. I would recommend waiting until at least the 11th. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:50, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Saying Longhorn appears to be a new body for Ramulus seems pretty unsubstantiable from two dialogueless panels. Actually, given the rest of the coloring, it's not hard to imagine it being Ramulus in Ramulus' body. -[[User:LV|LV]] 05:21, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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I dunno. The way he is drawn, and considering his prominence, I would be surprised if he isn't. In the foreground, we've got Primal, Cheetor, Rhinox, Silverbolt, and Blackarachnia... random redeco no-name who looks just like a major Universe character but in tweaked colors is kind of an odd choice to be grouping with them. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:45, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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I still think that's pretty speculative to be taking as canon to the point that "Longhorn" links to Ramulus' entry. The TFU Repugnus entry doesn't even point to G1 Repugnus, and they're clearly the same guy. -[[User:LV|LV]] 05:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Hrm, you're right. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks for the summory, as I resently canceled my Subscription, this summery makes me wish I hadn't. <br />
P.S. King Atlas is probably carreing Shadow Striker as she was working for Unicron the last time we saw her, and Rollete probably dosn't want to walk away from this battle minus ''another'' sister.[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 07:16, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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The colors definitely lean towards Roulette's, though. She has Roulette's robot mode colors, with the yellow head, chest, and purple shins, but she has a black car robot mode. I'm leaning towards the black car parts just being Ruffolo's shitty coloring making the silver too dark. Everything's dark. Dark dark dark. You can barely tell Roulette is even THERE. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 07:48, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Is the Cheetor in the colours of that unreleased proto that TF2 took pictures of a while back? [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 16:44, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Why does Ruffolo continue to get work? Everything he touches, he RUINS. - [[User: M Sipher]]<br />
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Actually, it's weird. While looking through War Within #4 to scan for TWW Megs, I noticed he was the colorist. And... it was readable. It was the exact opposite of this. (Of course, characters will still miscolored, which was fixed in the trade.) I think maybe he had a stroke between then and now. Or two minutes to color this, as Steve-o suggested, but that's not crazy enough. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:08, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Do we really have enough of Prime and Magnus to support the idea that they were the Costco versions in Part 1 (that entry says "presumably," which is fine)? I'm not really sure we can call this an error. The amount of Prime and Magnus seen could easily have been either one (Costco or original), so far as I can tell.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 03:38, 3 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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The previous issue definitely uses the TFU/Cybertron colors for Ultra Magnus. Prime has been in his original RID colors consistently (the only difference is the orange-versus-black bandolier). -[[User:LV|LV]] 05:15, 3 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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I'm idly wondering if "Skywarp" is actually supposed to be Jhiaxus. I suppose I could pose the question to Forrest via Pete...<br />
--[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]]<br />
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Naw, I asked Dan. It's Skywarp. That much in this issue was colored correctly. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:51, 3 April 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Revelations_Part_2&diff=32733Talk:Revelations Part 22006-12-18T22:25:57Z<p>65.255.67.229: </p>
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<div>After recently reading Dreamwave's Energon comics again, I've noticed that Scorponok's death in them does not agree with the Cybertron Club Comic. In the Club Comic, he is shown awakening on Cybertron and wandering into the cities. This doesn't tie to the Energon comic either, because Scorponok was trashed by Galvatron on Earth while Ironhide was helping to install a Cybertron City tower on what was probably Alaska or the North Pole. Scorponok's body was dead on Earth, not Cybertron. -BC<br />
:No, in the Club Comic, Dark Scorponok is shown arriving via some shiny graphical humming thing, due to the big holes in the space-time continuum the Unicron Singularity caused. It was specifically stated that he got on Cybertron the same way Sentinel Maximus got into the UT universe. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::How can you just say "No"? I'm looking at the page right now. Dark Scorponok is shown bursting from the ground outside Iacon city and saying "Must...Eat". The next time he's shown, he's attacking Skyfall outside of his shuttle. He simply wandered into town, pursuing Skyfall because of his immense Energon field. I'm right, as this contradicts either version of Energon. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but at least look at the comic before you call a guy a liar. --DangerDrVenture(Bodycount).<br />
::::1) I did not call you a liar. To be lying you would have to be telling an intentional falsehood. Someone who tells you that you are wrong is calling you a liar.<br />
::::2) Dark Scorponok does not "burst from the ground." In the panel prior to his first appearance, Vector Prime tells Sentinel Maximus that Unicron might influence the anomaly that was used to bring Sentinel Prime to this universe for his own purposes... and then Sentinel Maximus' reaction is narrated over the first panel we see of Dark Scorponok, which implies that these two things are related. Dark Scorponok does not burst from the ground. There are bursts of electricity as Dark Scorponok phazes from nothing out of the ground. The sound effect is "MMMMMMMMMM." Again, he does not "burst out of the ground." There is something supernatural going on. I was indeed "looking at the comic" before I "called you a liar."<br />
::::3) Please use the Preview feature before finalizing your posts, so the entire Recent Changes page is not filled with your numerous minor corrections.<br />
::::--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:48, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::::That pretty much confirms your incompetence. You honestly believe he was teleported INTO The ground, and dug his way out. THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE! The "MMMMMM" sound was being created by Scorponok. Stupid? sort of, but that's what is going on. You know i'm right so now you're just retconning your own false statement to continue combating me for NO APPARENT REASON but your stupid ego. You don't deserve to be the admin here. Oh, and the reason the events are shown as connected is because Unicron's power brought him back to life. That's stated in any information concerning Dark Scorponok. <br />
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I'm putting this review up, but I would prefer that information from this story not be integrated into the relevant character pages for a little while. The magazines have yet to arrive in a majority of member households, and while we can probably figure someone has the choice of clicking on this particular review, having "X is dead" at the end of some guy's bio elsewhere might be an unpleasant surprise. I would recommend waiting until at least the 11th. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:50, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Saying Longhorn appears to be a new body for Ramulus seems pretty unsubstantiable from two dialogueless panels. Actually, given the rest of the coloring, it's not hard to imagine it being Ramulus in Ramulus' body. -[[User:LV|LV]] 05:21, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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I dunno. The way he is drawn, and considering his prominence, I would be surprised if he isn't. In the foreground, we've got Primal, Cheetor, Rhinox, Silverbolt, and Blackarachnia... random redeco no-name who looks just like a major Universe character but in tweaked colors is kind of an odd choice to be grouping with them. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:45, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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I still think that's pretty speculative to be taking as canon to the point that "Longhorn" links to Ramulus' entry. The TFU Repugnus entry doesn't even point to G1 Repugnus, and they're clearly the same guy. -[[User:LV|LV]] 05:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Hrm, you're right. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks for the summory, as I resently canceled my Subscription, this summery makes me wish I hadn't. <br />
P.S. King Atlas is probably carreing Shadow Striker as she was working for Unicron the last time we saw her, and Rollete probably dosn't want to walk away from this battle minus ''another'' sister.[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 07:16, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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The colors definitely lean towards Roulette's, though. She has Roulette's robot mode colors, with the yellow head, chest, and purple shins, but she has a black car robot mode. I'm leaning towards the black car parts just being Ruffolo's shitty coloring making the silver too dark. Everything's dark. Dark dark dark. You can barely tell Roulette is even THERE. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 07:48, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Is the Cheetor in the colours of that unreleased proto that TF2 took pictures of a while back? [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 16:44, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Why does Ruffolo continue to get work? Everything he touches, he RUINS. - [[User: M Sipher]]<br />
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Actually, it's weird. While looking through War Within #4 to scan for TWW Megs, I noticed he was the colorist. And... it was readable. It was the exact opposite of this. (Of course, characters will still miscolored, which was fixed in the trade.) I think maybe he had a stroke between then and now. Or two minutes to color this, as Steve-o suggested, but that's not crazy enough. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:08, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Do we really have enough of Prime and Magnus to support the idea that they were the Costco versions in Part 1 (that entry says "presumably," which is fine)? I'm not really sure we can call this an error. The amount of Prime and Magnus seen could easily have been either one (Costco or original), so far as I can tell.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 03:38, 3 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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The previous issue definitely uses the TFU/Cybertron colors for Ultra Magnus. Prime has been in his original RID colors consistently (the only difference is the orange-versus-black bandolier). -[[User:LV|LV]] 05:15, 3 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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I'm idly wondering if "Skywarp" is actually supposed to be Jhiaxus. I suppose I could pose the question to Forrest via Pete...<br />
--[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]]<br />
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Naw, I asked Dan. It's Skywarp. That much in this issue was colored correctly. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:51, 3 April 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Revelations_Part_2&diff=32732Talk:Revelations Part 22006-12-18T22:24:40Z<p>65.255.67.229: </p>
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<div>After recently reading Dreamwave's Energon comics again, I've noticed that Scorponok's death in them does not agree with the Cybertron Club Comic. In the Club Comic, he is shown awakening on Cybertron and wandering into the cities. This doesn't tie to the Energon comic either, because Scorponok was trashed by Galvatron on Earth while Ironhide was helping to install a Cybertron City tower on what was probably Alaska or the North Pole. Scorponok's body was dead on Earth, not Cybertron. -BC<br />
:No, in the Club Comic, Dark Scorponok is shown arriving via some shiny graphical humming thing, due to the big holes in the space-time continuum the Unicron Singularity caused. It was specifically stated that he got on Cybertron the same way Sentinel Maximus got into the UT universe. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::How can you just say "No"? I'm looking at the page right now. Dark Scorponok is shown bursting from the ground outside Iacon city and saying "Must...Eat". The next time he's shown, he's attacking Skyfall outside of his shuttle. He simply wandered into town, pursuing Skyfall because of his immense Energon field. I'm right, as this contradicts either version of Energon. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, but at least look at the comic before you call a guy a liar. --DangerDrVenture(Bodycount).<br />
::::1) I did not call you a liar. To be lying you would have to be telling an intentional falsehood. Someone who tells you that you are wrong is calling you a liar.<br />
::::2) Dark Scorponok does not "burst from the ground." In the panel prior to his first appearance, Vector Prime tells Sentinel Maximus that Unicron might influence the anomaly that was used to bring Sentinel Prime to this universe for his own purposes... and then Sentinel Maximus' reaction is narrated over the first panel we see of Dark Scorponok, which implies that these two things are related. Dark Scorponok does not burst from the ground. There are bursts of electricity as Dark Scorponok phazes from nothing out of the ground. The sound effect is "MMMMMMMMMM." Again, he does not "burst out of the ground." There is something supernatural going on. I was indeed "looking at the comic" before I "called you a liar."<br />
::::3) Please use the Preview feature before finalizing your posts, so the entire Recent Changes page is not filled with your numerous minor corrections.<br />
::::--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:48, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::::That pretty much confirms your incompetence. You honestly believe he was teleported INTO The ground, and dug his way out. THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE! The "MMMMMM" sound was being created by Scorponok. Stupid? sort of, but that's what is going on. You know i'm right so now you're just retconning your own false statement to continue combating me for NO APPARENT REASON but your stupid ego. You don't deserve to be the admin here.<br />
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I'm putting this review up, but I would prefer that information from this story not be integrated into the relevant character pages for a little while. The magazines have yet to arrive in a majority of member households, and while we can probably figure someone has the choice of clicking on this particular review, having "X is dead" at the end of some guy's bio elsewhere might be an unpleasant surprise. I would recommend waiting until at least the 11th. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:50, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Saying Longhorn appears to be a new body for Ramulus seems pretty unsubstantiable from two dialogueless panels. Actually, given the rest of the coloring, it's not hard to imagine it being Ramulus in Ramulus' body. -[[User:LV|LV]] 05:21, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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I dunno. The way he is drawn, and considering his prominence, I would be surprised if he isn't. In the foreground, we've got Primal, Cheetor, Rhinox, Silverbolt, and Blackarachnia... random redeco no-name who looks just like a major Universe character but in tweaked colors is kind of an odd choice to be grouping with them. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:45, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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I still think that's pretty speculative to be taking as canon to the point that "Longhorn" links to Ramulus' entry. The TFU Repugnus entry doesn't even point to G1 Repugnus, and they're clearly the same guy. -[[User:LV|LV]] 05:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Hrm, you're right. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Thanks for the summory, as I resently canceled my Subscription, this summery makes me wish I hadn't. <br />
P.S. King Atlas is probably carreing Shadow Striker as she was working for Unicron the last time we saw her, and Rollete probably dosn't want to walk away from this battle minus ''another'' sister.[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 07:16, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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The colors definitely lean towards Roulette's, though. She has Roulette's robot mode colors, with the yellow head, chest, and purple shins, but she has a black car robot mode. I'm leaning towards the black car parts just being Ruffolo's shitty coloring making the silver too dark. Everything's dark. Dark dark dark. You can barely tell Roulette is even THERE. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 07:48, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Is the Cheetor in the colours of that unreleased proto that TF2 took pictures of a while back? [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 16:44, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Why does Ruffolo continue to get work? Everything he touches, he RUINS. - [[User: M Sipher]]<br />
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Actually, it's weird. While looking through War Within #4 to scan for TWW Megs, I noticed he was the colorist. And... it was readable. It was the exact opposite of this. (Of course, characters will still miscolored, which was fixed in the trade.) I think maybe he had a stroke between then and now. Or two minutes to color this, as Steve-o suggested, but that's not crazy enough. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:08, 2 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Do we really have enough of Prime and Magnus to support the idea that they were the Costco versions in Part 1 (that entry says "presumably," which is fine)? I'm not really sure we can call this an error. The amount of Prime and Magnus seen could easily have been either one (Costco or original), so far as I can tell.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 03:38, 3 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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The previous issue definitely uses the TFU/Cybertron colors for Ultra Magnus. Prime has been in his original RID colors consistently (the only difference is the orange-versus-black bandolier). -[[User:LV|LV]] 05:15, 3 April 2006 (UTC)<br />
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I'm idly wondering if "Skywarp" is actually supposed to be Jhiaxus. I suppose I could pose the question to Forrest via Pete...<br />
--[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]]<br />
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Naw, I asked Dan. It's Skywarp. That much in this issue was colored correctly. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:51, 3 April 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cyber_Planet_Key&diff=99035Talk:Cyber Planet Key2006-12-18T22:20:03Z<p>65.255.67.229: </p>
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<div>I am not sure why so much of this page seems to be discussing the planets, not the keys. The title of the page seems a misnomer. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:40, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Discussing the traits and differences of the planets is there to define what makes the keys unique from one another. The Keys essentially are the worlds they inhabit.<br />
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: But... they're NOT unique from one another. They all do the exact same fucking damn vague BURNING HEART-O I MUST SUCCEED GIVE ME POWER-UP to whatever clot happens to be nearby at the time. What all this "different planet" hoo-ha boils down to is unrelated stuff or fanon, and either way, has no place on this page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:09, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
::Pretty much. The keys themselves are identical other than design. They have nothing to do with the history of each planet. No unique powers, no nothing. This page needs the irrelevant info gone. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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I'm still wondering about how fanon some of these are, like the Planet X keys being Unicron's power (I mean, that's what I figure it is, but where's the canon that backs it up?). Also... I thought Planet X was IN that other dimension that Gigantion entered. Which is how Sideways and Soundwave can GET to Gigantion, aside from Plot Convenience. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::Planet X traveled to this universe and attacked Gigalonia. There is some confusion concerning this. Gigalonia fell into a wormhole afterwards, which is why the Planet X agents don't know where it's at until they scan Jolt's memory. -BC<br />
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I have a lot of misgivings about the changes Bodycount has made here. I freely admit that I only watched most Cybertron episodes once, so I'm sure I missed some pieces of the story, but like Siph says most this sounds really fanon-ish to me. I think it needs a lot of citations. Otherwise, I'm inclined to recommend reverting most of the changes. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::You guys are just biased against Cybertron. If you actually paid attention to the show, then you'd know this and don't fire back with "I dont pay attention because it sucks" crap, because that means you have no business being IN THIS ENTRY in the first place. The four keys are unique in what traits they granted to the four planets in question. There's a reason the jungle key makes a JUNGLE world and reformats guys into animals. Is this too hard for you to understand?<br />
::::Source the episode in which it is stated that the reason the Jungle Planet has animal TFs is because of the key itself, and we'll change it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:41, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::::That's what the whole planet thing was about! I'm sure its also a coincidence that when the keys were merged back into Cybertron's essense, the planet contained elements from each of the seperate keys and the planets they influenced? Oh, I also want to point out that Leobreaker says "The power to remake a planet, the power to remake a man..." this insists that they keys reformat the planet into the new traits. This is followed up by Leobreaker becoming an ANIMAL based Transformer, on an ANIMAL-based planet containing an ANIMAL-based key... That's evidence enough, but you apparenly want several repeats in the plot before you believe what the story is. Otherwise, why aren't there animal Transformers on Gigalonia? why aren't there giant builder robots on Jungle Planet? The keys containing Primus' influence directly evolved the life on those planets based upon the key's protocol, therefore each key is unique in what it influences. Just because some of you guys don't like the plot device of the key doesn't mean you have the right to discredit it's presense in the story.<br />
::::::Correlation does not equal causation. Each planet has a theme, and until we have anything to suggest otherwise, there's nothing more to it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::::::The Leobreaker qoute confirms exactly what I'm saying. Put your bias somewhere else.<br />
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::::OH, THAT'S why I've been rewatching the Cybertron episodes and making pages for the episodes! I'm obviously biased AGAINST Cybertron and hate it! And Steve-o CLEARLY said he thought Cybertron sucks! Oh wait, you're just spewing untrue shit. Again. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::::Please stop talking.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cyber_Planet_Key&diff=99034Talk:Cyber Planet Key2006-12-18T22:18:57Z<p>65.255.67.229: </p>
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<div>I am not sure why so much of this page seems to be discussing the planets, not the keys. The title of the page seems a misnomer. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:40, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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Discussing the traits and differences of the planets is there to define what makes the keys unique from one another. The Keys essentially are the worlds they inhabit.<br />
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: But... they're NOT unique from one another. They all do the exact same fucking damn vague BURNING HEART-O I MUST SUCCEED GIVE ME POWER-UP to whatever clot happens to be nearby at the time. What all this "different planet" hoo-ha boils down to is unrelated stuff or fanon, and either way, has no place on this page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:09, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
::Pretty much. The keys themselves are identical other than design. They have nothing to do with the history of each planet. No unique powers, no nothing. This page needs the irrelevant info gone. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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I'm still wondering about how fanon some of these are, like the Planet X keys being Unicron's power (I mean, that's what I figure it is, but where's the canon that backs it up?). Also... I thought Planet X was IN that other dimension that Gigantion entered. Which is how Sideways and Soundwave can GET to Gigantion, aside from Plot Convenience. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::Planet X traveled to this universe and attacked Gigalonia. There is some confusion concerning this. Gigalonia fell into a wormhole afterwards, which is why the Planet X agents don't know where it's at until they scan Jolt's memory. -BC<br />
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<br />
I have a lot of misgivings about the changes Bodycount has made here. I freely admit that I only watched most Cybertron episodes once, so I'm sure I missed some pieces of the story, but like Siph says most this sounds really fanon-ish to me. I think it needs a lot of citations. Otherwise, I'm inclined to recommend reverting most of the changes. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::You guys are just biased against Cybertron. If you actually paid attention to the show, then you'd know this and don't fire back with "I dont pay attention because it sucks" crap, because that means you have no business being IN THIS ENTRY in the first place. The four keys are unique in what traits they granted to the four planets in question. There's a reason the jungle key makes a JUNGLE world and reformats guys into animals. Is this too hard for you to understand?<br />
::::Source the episode in which it is stated that the reason the Jungle Planet has animal TFs is because of the key itself, and we'll change it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:41, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::::That's what the whole planet thing was about! I'm sure its also a coincidence that when the keys were merged back into Cybertron's essense, the planet contained elements from each of the seperate keys and the planets they influenced? Oh, I also want to point out that Leobreaker says "The power to remake a planet, the power to remake a man..." this insists that they keys reformat the planet into the new traits. This is followed up by Leobreaker becoming an ANIMAL based Transformer, on an ANIMAL-based planet containing an ANIMAL-based key... That's evidence enough, but you apparenly want several repeats in the plot before you believe what the story is. Otherwise, why aren't there animal Transformers on Gigalonia? why aren't there giant builder robots on Jungle Planet? The keys containing Primus' influence directly evolved the life on those planets based upon the key's protocol, therefore each key is unique in what it influences. Just because some of you guys don't like the plot device of the key doesn't mean you have the right to discredit it's presense in the story.<br />
::::::Correlation does not equal causation. Each planet has a theme, and until we have anything to suggest otherwise, there's nothing more to it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::::::The Leobreaker qoute confirms exactly what I'm saying. Put your bias somewhere else.<br />
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::::OH, THAT'S why I've been rewatching the Cybertron episodes and making pages for the episodes! I'm obviously biased AGAINST Cybertron and hate it! And Steve-o CLEARLY said he thought Cybertron sucks! Oh wait, you're just spewing untrue shit. Again. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cyber_Planet_Key&diff=99032Talk:Cyber Planet Key2006-12-18T22:09:52Z<p>65.255.67.229: </p>
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<div>I am not sure why so much of this page seems to be discussing the planets, not the keys. The title of the page seems a misnomer. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:40, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Discussing the traits and differences of the planets is there to define what makes the keys unique from one another. The Keys essentially are the worlds they inhabit.<br />
<br />
: But... they're NOT unique from one another. They all do the exact same fucking damn vague BURNING HEART-O I MUST SUCCEED GIVE ME POWER-UP to whatever clot happens to be nearby at the time. What all this "different planet" hoo-ha boils down to is unrelated stuff or fanon, and either way, has no place on this page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:09, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
::Pretty much. The keys themselves are identical other than design. They have nothing to do with the history of each planet. No unique powers, no nothing. This page needs the irrelevant info gone. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
I'm still wondering about how fanon some of these are, like the Planet X keys being Unicron's power (I mean, that's what I figure it is, but where's the canon that backs it up?). Also... I thought Planet X was IN that other dimension that Gigantion entered. Which is how Sideways and Soundwave can GET to Gigantion, aside from Plot Convenience. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::Planet X traveled to this universe and attacked Gigalonia. There is some confusion concerning this. Gigalonia fell into a wormhole afterwards, which is why the Planet X agents don't know where it's at until they scan Jolt's memory. -BC<br />
<br />
<br />
I have a lot of misgivings about the changes Bodycount has made here. I freely admit that I only watched most Cybertron episodes once, so I'm sure I missed some pieces of the story, but like Siph says most this sounds really fanon-ish to me. I think it needs a lot of citations. Otherwise, I'm inclined to recommend reverting most of the changes. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:::You guys are just biased against Cybertron. If you actually paid attention to the show, then you'd know this and don't fire back with "I dont pay attention because it sucks" crap, because that means you have no business being IN THIS ENTRY in the first place. The four keys are unique in what traits they granted to the four planets in question. There's a reason the jungle key makes a JUNGLE world and reformats guys into animals. Is this too hard for you to understand?<br />
::::Source the episode in which it is stated that the reason the Jungle Planet has animal TFs is because of the key itself, and we'll change it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:41, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::::That's what the whole planet thing was about! I'm sure its also a coincidence that when the keys were merged back into Cybertron's essense, the planet contained elements from each of the seperate keys and the planets they influenced? Oh, I also want to point out that Leobreaker says "The power to remake a planet, the power to remake a man..." this insists that they keys reformat the planet into the new traits. This is followed up by Leobreaker becoming an ANIMAL based Transformer, on an ANIMAL-based planet containing an ANIMAL-based key... That's evidence enough, but you apparenly want several repeats in the plot before you believe what the story is. Otherwise, why aren't there animal Transformers on Gigalonia? why aren't there giant builder robots on Jungle Planet? The keys containing Primus' influence directly evolved the life on those planets based upon the key's protocol, therefore each key is unique in what it influences. Just because some of you guys don't like the plot device of the key doesn't mean you have the right to discredit it's presense in the story.<br />
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::::OH, THAT'S why I've been rewatching the Cybertron episodes and making pages for the episodes! I'm obviously biased AGAINST Cybertron and hate it! And Steve-o CLEARLY said he thought Cybertron sucks! Oh wait, you're just spewing untrue shit. Again. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cyber_Planet_Key&diff=99031Talk:Cyber Planet Key2006-12-18T22:07:43Z<p>65.255.67.229: </p>
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<div>I am not sure why so much of this page seems to be discussing the planets, not the keys. The title of the page seems a misnomer. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:40, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Discussing the traits and differences of the planets is there to define what makes the keys unique from one another. The Keys essentially are the worlds they inhabit.<br />
<br />
: But... they're NOT unique from one another. They all do the exact same fucking damn vague BURNING HEART-O I MUST SUCCEED GIVE ME POWER-UP to whatever clot happens to be nearby at the time. What all this "different planet" hoo-ha boils down to is unrelated stuff or fanon, and either way, has no place on this page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:09, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
::Pretty much. The keys themselves are identical other than design. They have nothing to do with the history of each planet. No unique powers, no nothing. This page needs the irrelevant info gone. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
I'm still wondering about how fanon some of these are, like the Planet X keys being Unicron's power (I mean, that's what I figure it is, but where's the canon that backs it up?). Also... I thought Planet X was IN that other dimension that Gigantion entered. Which is how Sideways and Soundwave can GET to Gigantion, aside from Plot Convenience. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::Planet X traveled to this universe and attacked Gigalonia. There is some confusion concerning this. Gigalonia fell into a wormhole afterwards, which is why the Planet X agents don't know where it's at until they scan Jolt's memory. -BC<br />
<br />
<br />
I have a lot of misgivings about the changes Bodycount has made here. I freely admit that I only watched most Cybertron episodes once, so I'm sure I missed some pieces of the story, but like Siph says most this sounds really fanon-ish to me. I think it needs a lot of citations. Otherwise, I'm inclined to recommend reverting most of the changes. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:::You guys are just biased against Cybertron. If you actually paid attention to the show, then you'd know this and don't fire back with "I dont pay attention because it sucks" crap, because that means you have no business being IN THIS ENTRY in the first place. The four keys are unique in what traits they granted to the four planets in question. There's a reason the jungle key makes a JUNGLE world and reformats guys into animals. Is this too hard for you to understand?<br />
::::Source the episode in which it is stated that the reason the Jungle Planet has animal TFs is because of the key itself, and we'll change it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:41, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::::That's what the whole planet thing was about! I'm sure its also a coincidence that when the keys were merged back into Cybertron's essense, the planet contained elements from each of the seperate keys and the planets they influenced? Oh, I also want to point out that Leobreaker says "The power to remake a planet, the power to remake a man..." this insists that they keys reformat the planet into the new traits. This is followed up by Leobreaker becoming an ANIMAL based Transformer, on an ANIMAL-based planet containing an ANIMAL-based key... That's evidence enough, but you apparenly want several repeats in the plot before you believe what the story is.<br />
<br />
::::OH, THAT'S why I've been rewatching the Cybertron episodes and making pages for the episodes! I'm obviously biased AGAINST Cybertron and hate it! And Steve-o CLEARLY said he thought Cybertron sucks! Oh wait, you're just spewing untrue shit. Again. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cyber_Planet_Key&diff=99030Talk:Cyber Planet Key2006-12-18T22:00:17Z<p>65.255.67.229: </p>
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<div>I am not sure why so much of this page seems to be discussing the planets, not the keys. The title of the page seems a misnomer. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:40, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Discussing the traits and differences of the planets is there to define what makes the keys unique from one another. The Keys essentially are the worlds they inhabit.<br />
<br />
: But... they're NOT unique from one another. They all do the exact same fucking damn vague BURNING HEART-O I MUST SUCCEED GIVE ME POWER-UP to whatever clot happens to be nearby at the time. What all this "different planet" hoo-ha boils down to is unrelated stuff or fanon, and either way, has no place on this page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:09, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
::Pretty much. The keys themselves are identical other than design. They have nothing to do with the history of each planet. No unique powers, no nothing. This page needs the irrelevant info gone. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
I'm still wondering about how fanon some of these are, like the Planet X keys being Unicron's power (I mean, that's what I figure it is, but where's the canon that backs it up?). Also... I thought Planet X was IN that other dimension that Gigantion entered. Which is how Sideways and Soundwave can GET to Gigantion, aside from Plot Convenience. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
I have a lot of misgivings about the changes Bodycount has made here. I freely admit that I only watched most Cybertron episodes once, so I'm sure I missed some pieces of the story, but like Siph says most this sounds really fanon-ish to me. I think it needs a lot of citations. Otherwise, I'm inclined to recommend reverting most of the changes. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:::You guys are just biased against Cybertron. If you actually paid attention to the show, then you'd know this and don't fire back with "I dont pay attention because it sucks" crap, because that means you have no business being IN THIS ENTRY in the first place. The four keys are unique in what traits they granted to the four planets in question. There's a reason the jungle key makes a JUNGLE world and reformats guys into animals. Is this too hard for you to understand?<br />
::::Source the episode in which it is stated that the reason the Jungle Planet has animal TFs is because of the key itself, and we'll change it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:41, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::::That's what the whole planet thing was about! I'm sure its also a coincidence that when the keys were merged back into Cybertron's essense, the planet contained elements from each of the seperate keys and the planets they influenced? Oh, I also want to point out that Leobreaker says "The power to remake a planet, the power to remake a man..." this insists that they keys reformat the planet into the new traits. This is followed up by Leobreaker becoming an ANIMAL based Transformer, on an ANIMAL-based planet containing an ANIMAL-based key... That's evidence enough, but you apparenly want several repeats in the plot before you believe what the story is.<br />
<br />
::::OH, THAT'S why I've been rewatching the Cybertron episodes and making pages for the episodes! I'm obviously biased AGAINST Cybertron and hate it! And Steve-o CLEARLY said he thought Cybertron sucks! Oh wait, you're just spewing untrue shit. Again. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cyber_Planet_Key&diff=99029Talk:Cyber Planet Key2006-12-18T21:57:04Z<p>65.255.67.229: </p>
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<div>I am not sure why so much of this page seems to be discussing the planets, not the keys. The title of the page seems a misnomer. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:40, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Discussing the traits and differences of the planets is there to define what makes the keys unique from one another. The Keys essentially are the worlds they inhabit.<br />
<br />
: But... they're NOT unique from one another. They all do the exact same fucking damn vague BURNING HEART-O I MUST SUCCEED GIVE ME POWER-UP to whatever clot happens to be nearby at the time. What all this "different planet" hoo-ha boils down to is unrelated stuff or fanon, and either way, has no place on this page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:09, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
::Pretty much. The keys themselves are identical other than design. They have nothing to do with the history of each planet. No unique powers, no nothing. This page needs the irrelevant info gone. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
I'm still wondering about how fanon some of these are, like the Planet X keys being Unicron's power (I mean, that's what I figure it is, but where's the canon that backs it up?). Also... I thought Planet X was IN that other dimension that Gigantion entered. Which is how Sideways and Soundwave can GET to Gigantion, aside from Plot Convenience. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
I have a lot of misgivings about the changes Bodycount has made here. I freely admit that I only watched most Cybertron episodes once, so I'm sure I missed some pieces of the story, but like Siph says most this sounds really fanon-ish to me. I think it needs a lot of citations. Otherwise, I'm inclined to recommend reverting most of the changes. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:::You guys are just biased against Cybertron. If you actually paid attention to the show, then you'd know this and don't fire back with "I dont pay attention because it sucks" crap, because that means you have no business being IN THIS ENTRY in the first place. The four keys are unique in what traits they granted to the four planets in question. There's a reason the jungle key makes a JUNGLE world and reformats guys into animals. Is this too hard for you to understand?<br />
::::Source the episode in which it is stated that the reason the Jungle Planet has animal TFs is because of the key itself, and we'll change it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:41, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
:::::That's what the whole planet thing was about! I'm sure its also a coincidence that when the keys were merged back into Cybertron's essense, the planet contained elements from each of the seperate keys and the planets they influenced? Oh, I also want to point out that Leobreaker says "The power to remake a planet, the power to remake a man..." this insists that they keys reformat the planet into the new traits. This is followed up by Leobreaker becoming an ANIMAL based Transformer. That's evidence enough, but you apparenly want several repeats in the plot before you believe what the story is.<br />
<br />
::::OH, THAT'S why I've been rewatching the Cybertron episodes and making pages for the episodes! I'm obviously biased AGAINST Cybertron and hate it! And Steve-o CLEARLY said he thought Cybertron sucks! Oh wait, you're just spewing untrue shit. Again. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Transformers:_Cybertron_(franchise)&diff=5653Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)2006-12-18T21:50:59Z<p>65.255.67.229: /* ''Galaxy Force'' */</p>
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'''''Cybertron''''' is the third and final Transformers franchise in the [[Unicron Trilogy]].<br />
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The ''Cybertron'' franchise featured the following primary components:<br />
*[[Cybertron (toyline)|A toyline]]<br />
*[[Cybertron (cartoon)|A cartoon series]]<br />
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A comic book series was initially planned for ''Cybertron'', but its intended publisher, [[Dreamwave]], went out of business before the line began. The [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors Club|Transformers fan club]] newsletter includes a [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club (comic)|short comic]] story in each issue which is branded with the [[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] name. This comic, while featuring UT characters, also stars various characters from other timelines, and is loosely tied to [[3H]]'s [[Universe (comic)|''Universe'']] series.<br />
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==''Galaxy Force''==<br />
''Galaxy Force'', the Japanese version of ''Cybertron'', is somewhat different than its English counterpart.<br />
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The general plot and storylines remained very similar (with the exception of the usual differences in character names). The main difference between ''Cybertron'' and ''Galaxy Force'' is that the ''Galaxy Force'' cartoon has no story ties to any of the previous Transformers series. It was treated as a new stand-alone continuity featuring entirely new characters, whereas Cybertron is scripted as part of the Unicron Trilogy with many of its characters representing new forms of important characters from that continuity family.<br />
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This division leads not only to character differences but also to different takes on some key events. The [[Unicron Singularity]] (or Grand Black Hole in Japan) was not created by the destruction of Unicron in the ''Galaxy Force'' telling, but occured due to the loss of an evil cosmic balance in their ancient past.<br />
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However, liner notes in the last ''Galaxy Force'' DVD release do make links to previous series that mirror those from American material. These notes would seem to [[retcon]] ''Galaxy Force'' back into the Unicron Trilogy.<br />
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<div>The "Galaxy Force has no ties to previous series" stuff needs to be rewritten because it's not so very true anymore. If I'm not mistaken, later information out of Japan, specifically liner notes in the last DVD set, make some of the same connections to previous series that Cybertron did. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:Well, I rewrote it and it was modified back. Did you do this, Walky? Either way, it's incorrect.<br />
::I modified it back and added the last paragraph, which was all that was really needed in the first place. What you changed it to was barely English. The only thing we need to add now are examples and citations, not meandering fanon. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:43, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::Why don't you find something else to do besides throwing insults at me? Nothing I stated was "fan created". You should turn over this wiki to someone who is qualified, instead of running it like a dictator. You aren't better than us. Some would say you're less than us at TFW. Oh, and before you chyme in...I'm not talking to you, Sipher.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Cybertron_(franchise)&diff=85685Talk:Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)2006-12-18T21:46:28Z<p>65.255.67.229: </p>
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<div>The "Galaxy Force has no ties to previous series" stuff needs to be rewritten because it's not so very true anymore. If I'm not mistaken, later information out of Japan, specifically liner notes in the last DVD set, make some of the same connections to previous series that Cybertron did. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:Well, I rewrote it and it was modified back. Did you do this, Walky? Either way, it's incorrect.<br />
::I modified it back and added the last paragraph, which was all that was really needed in the first place. What you changed it to was barely English. The only thing we need to add now are examples and citations, not meandering fanon. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:43, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
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::Why don't you find something else to do besides throwing insults at me? Nothing I stated as "fan created". You should turn over this wiki to someone who is qualified, instead of running it like a dictator. You aren't better than us. Some would say you're less than us at TFW. Oh, and before you chyme in...I'm not talking to you, Sipher.<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cyber_Planet_Key&diff=99026Talk:Cyber Planet Key2006-12-18T20:34:46Z<p>65.255.67.229: </p>
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<div>I am not sure why so much of this page seems to be discussing the planets, not the keys. The title of the page seems a misnomer. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:40, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Discussing the traits and differences of the planets is there to define what makes the keys unique from one another. The Keys essentially are the worlds they inhabit.<br />
<br />
: But... they're NOT unique from one another. They all do the exact same fucking damn vague BURNING HEART-O I MUST SUCCEED GIVE ME POWER-UP to whatever clot happens to be nearby at the time. What all this "different planet" hoo-ha boils down to is unrelated stuff or fanon, and either way, has no place on this page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:09, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
::Pretty much. The keys themselves are identical other than design. They have nothing to do with the history of each planet. No unique powers, no nothing. This page needs the irrelevant info gone. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
I'm still wondering about how fanon some of these are, like the Planet X keys being Unicron's power (I mean, that's what I figure it is, but where's the canon that backs it up?). Also... I thought Planet X was IN that other dimension that Gigantion entered. Which is how Sideways and Soundwave can GET to Gigantion, aside from Plot Convenience. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
I have a lot of misgivings about the changes Bodycount has made here. I freely admit that I only watched most Cybertron episodes once, so I'm sure I missed some pieces of the story, but like Siph says most this sounds really fanon-ish to me. I think it needs a lot of citations. Otherwise, I'm inclined to recommend reverting most of the changes. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:::You guys are just biased against Cybertron. If you actually paid attention to the show, then you'd know this and don't fire back with "I dont pay attention because it sucks" crap, because that means you have no business being IN THIS ENTRY in the first place. The four keys are unique in what traits they granted to the four planets in question. There's a reason the jungle key makes a JUNGLE world and reformats guys into animals. Is this too hard for you to understand?<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div></div>65.255.67.229https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Cybertron_(franchise)&diff=85683Talk:Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)2006-12-18T20:26:09Z<p>65.255.67.229: </p>
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<div>The "Galaxy Force has no ties to previous series" stuff needs to be rewritten because it's not so very true anymore. If I'm not mistaken, later information out of Japan, specifically liner notes in the last DVD set, make some of the same connections to previous series that Cybertron did. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 October 2006 (UTC)<br />
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:::Well, I rewrote it and it was modified back. Did you do this, Walky? Either way, it's incorrect.<br />
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Well, Mr. Willis. I know ya hates my guts, but I'm not really someone that considers you an adversary. We pretty much agree on alot of things concerning the fandom and I'd be happy to modify this article, seeing as how I'm a UT nut and I follow just about every piece of material surrounding the domestic and foreign versions of the three shows.<br />
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