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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;66.233.183.59: /* Blackarachnia&amp;#039;s Telekinesis and it&amp;#039;s connection to Tarantulas */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I question the placement of the BW Manga between the US BW and BM material.  We have been aligning most entries according to continuity, then series.  (See [[Hot Shot (UT)]], for example.  Cartoon:Armada, Energon, Cybertron; then Comic:Armada, Energon.)  That way, the summaries of stories flow logically and chronologically. I would probably prefer to move the BW Manga section after Universe.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed and done.  Why is Legends seperate?  Is it for the Armadqa tale?  is she even IN The Armada tale?  Or are was counting Furman&#039;s contribution as a seperate continuity?&lt;br /&gt;
In EITHER case, the banner &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; is an inaccurate container-continuity for the tales it contains, becase a character might appear in SEVERAL Legends tales, in multiple continuities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of Legends, I&#039;d say put the story/stories they appear in&#039;s title in italics as a header above the descriptive paragraph. - [[User: M Sipher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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So I&#039;m looking at the decomposing corpse of TFPulp. http://web.archive.org/web/20041019195546/www.tfpulp.com/archive/seiyuu/seiyuu.html She&#039;s all the way down at the bottom.  Says Black Widow&#039;s voice actress was &amp;quot;Ryoka Yuzuki aka Kanori Kadomatsu aka Ayumi Nagashii&amp;quot;.  Ryoka Yuzuki would appear to be her real name.  Is the one listed, Iwata, another alias? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Fixed! [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 21:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia&#039;s Telekinesis and it&#039;s connection to Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m seriously getting tired of being accused of vandalism whenever I post that BA&#039;s TM2 telekinesis is likely a product of her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded. I&#039;ve been told repeatedly that it&#039;s an &#039;unsubstantiated rumor&#039;, but I&#039;ve seen similar theories about multiple entries in this site that have far less evidence to back them up than this has.&lt;br /&gt;
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While it&#039;s not stated directly, the evidence in-show obviously sets up the mind link as the source of the telekinesis: first, the link was stated as &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; in nature, not electronic or otherwise artificial, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any transmissions being made when the link was being used. It was also very powerful, and worked both ways; not only was Tarantulas able to speak through BA with it &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; cause her mental pain, but she also acquired a lot of information from his memories, information that she retained after the link was severed. Plus, when BA threatened to kill herself via energon radiation if the link wasn&#039;t terminated, her anguish was visibly shared through the link by Tarantulas, and even he noted that, if BA &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; terminate herself, the link would&#039;ve ensured his death, as well. There&#039;s also the debatable scene where Tarantulas forces himself inside BA&#039;s head after he&#039;s burned by Inferno, and had to download himself into his new TM body &#039;&#039;from BA&#039;s noggin&#039;&#039;, which could meaning that the link was established by his &#039;&#039;literally inhabiting her mind&#039;&#039;. Oh, and besides mutant spark-aided healing, I don&#039;t recall the show &#039;&#039;ever&#039;&#039; stating that the TM2 process granted a Transformer brand new abilities that they didn&#039;t have before, just upgrades to what they already had, meaning that the potential for BA&#039;s telekinesis had to already be there to begin with, and since BA was never even hinted at having the required mental faculties for psychokinesis, even before the mind-link, where else &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; she get it from?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, it&#039;s a theory, but it&#039;s a theory blatantly supported by the cartoon. Her eyes even glow the same color as when Tarantulas gained control of her during the link when she levitated the girder to dispatch Rampage, for crying out loud. If that doesn&#039;t solidify the &amp;quot;spider mindmeld alien upgrade&amp;quot; theory, then I dunno what does.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In no way is either telepathy or telekinesis a &amp;quot;powered up&amp;quot; version of the other.  They are totally unrelated abilities aside from both being brain things.  Precognition, clairvoyance, astral projection, etc., are also &amp;quot;psychic&amp;quot; brain things, but that doesn&#039;t mean they are related.  Honestly, until Derik posted to my talk page about it saying, &amp;quot;they are both psychic abilities&amp;quot;, I seriously had no idea why you would think they were connected.  There are *tons* of types of psychic ability.  All of the evidence you cite, other than the eye glow thing which might have something to it, is merely &#039;&#039;consistent with&#039;&#039; your theory; it doesn&#039;t &#039;&#039;support&#039;&#039; you.  All the same evidence is also consistent with her telekinesis having nothing to do with Tarantulas.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Regarding eye-glow: Several characters over the course of the series had their eyes glow for various reasons.  I don&#039;t recall what colors were used for these various effects.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if unrelated instances of glowing eyes happened to use the same color from time to time, but admittedly I don&#039;t know that offhand.&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he said. And, as far as eye-glow is concerned, I&#039;m WAY more inclined to chalk it up to &amp;quot;Mainframe knew how to do that effect&amp;quot; than them making some kind of conscious reference to an unrelated event practically a full season back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Which other Transformers were confirmed to have actual psychic abilities, especially in Beast Wars? Besides, the link not only allowed BA and Tarantulas to communicate telepathically, but it also allowed Tarantulas to TAKE OVER HER BODY and INFLICT PAIN ON HER PSYCHICALLY, neither of which are generally accepted as being strictly telepathic abilities. Plus, read any kind of fiction that includes psychic abilities, and you&#039;ll almost always see a telepath manifest telekinetic abilities of some form. It also makes far more sense than say...Primacron&#039;s Oracle assistant being THE Oracle of Beast Machines (which also has no evidence to support it, yet it&#039;s allowed in Primacron Oracle&#039;s article). Essentailly, all you&#039;re saying is Mainframe is too stupid to make self references of past subplots, which is interesting considering how they touched up on Tigatron and Airazor&#039;s abduction, the fate of Sentinel, BA&#039;s shell program, Tarantulas&#039; hatred for the Vok...need I go on? Honestly, do you guys even watch the media whose wikis you monitor?&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Dude, I&#039;ve seen Beast Wars more times than I can count.  I have it memorized.  No where was it remotely implied that Blackarachnia got telekinesis powers from having a mind-link with somebody else.  Those aren&#039;t even the same power!  Telekinetics and telepaths are two completely different things!  And please stop insulting people.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Didn&#039;t one of the BotCon comics retcon the Oracle as being the assistant? I&#039;m not sure of that. And typically, when we have fannon in an article, it is 1. in the trivia section, 2, is in it&#039;s own paragraph seperate from the cannon, and 3. is clearly stated as such. And even then, it&#039;s only included if it was notable in the fandom (aka, who was Dion built into, is Brawn dead or alive, who became Cyclonus, Scourge, and the Sweeps, etc. This is the only long discussion on this topic I&#039;ve seen, ans you seem to be the only one who insists the two abilities are linked. Yes, you can say the fiction doesn&#039;t contridict it, but you can claim the same thing about Alpha Trion being a pimp before the rebellion against the Quintessons. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::BotCon comics never mentioned the G1 Oracle, I&#039;m pretty sure.  (Its name is known only from the script, so I wouldn&#039;t expect that sort of thing to show up.)  Regardless, I&#039;ve removed that bit from that page&#039;s trivia section.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Botcon comics introduce the new wrinkle that &#039;the oracle&#039; from BM, wasn&#039;t actually the one from the legends Primal knew, it was something the quints created to exploit that legend.  The first posts about the G1 Oracle being called The Oracle in the script (model sheet?) came out not long prior- I&#039;m inclined to think that, in creating an unrelated &#039;real oracle,&#039; they were reffign the CotP one- but even if that wasn&#039;t their &#039;&#039;intention&#039;&#039;, the existance of a G1 Oracle with ties to TF origins certainly merits mention since there actually IS soms sort of actual Oracle in TF legend that might be/probably is that one. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:11, 4 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2? As I said before, there&#039;s nothing stated in the show that says that the process gives the Transformer new powers besides the spark-healing. In fact, beyond Blackarachnia, NONE of the TM2s in the show gained new abilities from the driver. Telekinesis is different from telepathy, fine, but as I explained, the mind link between BA and Tarantulas was NOT just merely telepathy; if it was, he shouldn&#039;t have been able to control her body, nor inflict pain on her. In fact, the moment he was restored to his original body, BA tried to shoot him, and what does he do? Force her mentally to turn her gun to her own head. That&#039;s not telepathy, now is it? It&#039;s just assumed to me &#039;mere&#039; telepathy, because that&#039;s for the most part what Tarantulas used it for: seeing and knowing whatever BA saw and knew.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 00:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::&amp;quot;What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2?&amp;quot;  Uh, yeah.  I think that&#039;s obvious.  That was sort of the deal.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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66.233.183.59, you seem to be taking this all really personally.  We are not saying that &amp;quot;Mainframe is too stupid&amp;quot; to have referenced a past episode.  We are saying that in this particular case we don&#039;t think they were doing so.&lt;br /&gt;
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Controlling somebody&#039;s body and causing them to feel pain are MOST DEFINITELY applications of telepathy as portrayed in many works of fiction.  Both come about through manipulating the victom&#039;s mind, not by applying force to the limbs.  The only story I can think of offhand where telekinesis is considered to be something &amp;quot;beyond&amp;quot; but connected to telepathy is &#039;&#039;Babylon 5&#039;&#039;, and even in that series, telepaths with no teke inflicted pain and mind-control on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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You are right, there is no &amp;quot;other&amp;quot; explanation for where her powers came from. There is also no explanation for where the Transmetal Driver came from in the first place, how it brought her back from the dead, or why it made Cheetor go Jeckyll/Hyde.  This doesn&#039;t mean that just because some idea some people discussed *can* fit the canon that it is *supported* by the canon.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you see instances of fanon where it doesn&#039;t belong on this Wiki, please edit it, or at the very least comment about it on the relevant talk page.  As with any Wiki, there is going to be some inaccurate stuff here and there.  A lot of us monitor the &amp;quot;recent changes&amp;quot; page, especially for edits by anonymous users, which is why so many people have been reverting your edits to this article.  There is still plenty of opportunity, though, for mistakes to find their way in.  Just because you see something on a page doesn&#039;t mean that we all unanimously agree with it.  It could even be that content which directly contradicts our policies i around someplace and nobody has noticed it yet.  We&#039;d all appreciate your help in seeking out that sort of thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::After none of the other TM2s in the show gained any such spontaneous abilities?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::...but they did!  I&#039;m starting to wonder who really hasn&#039;t watched the show, here.  Dinobot had magical healing factor.  Cheetor had Spidey-sense.  And they all used the same crazy glow-effect tentacles.  TM2s had special mutant powers.  It was their deal, as I said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Unlikely. I&#039;m sorry, but &amp;quot;a wizard did it&amp;quot; just isn&#039;t flying with me, especially considering how much of a freak accident it would have to be in order for it to work. Did Cheetor gain the ability to teleport, for instance, or Dinobot the power to slow time? No, they did not; aside from the spark-healing (which seems to be pretty universal for all Transmetal 2&#039;s), any powers they gained were mere upgrades to whatever they had before; Cheetor could run faster and &#039;air dash&#039; like his original Transmetal form, while DInobot had a laser-firing eyepiece and razor-sharp melee weapons. If you consider them TM2&#039;s, only Tigerhawk gained any &#039;new&#039; powers, due to direct Vok influence and not the modified driver; Megatron gained the ability to fly and shoot things from his gun/head hand. Again, nothing new there. So why is it that only Blackarachnia gained a power that&#039;s not only completely new, but according to you not even remotely related to her in the least? The psychic link theory is more feasible to me, because of the consistency it has with all of the other showings of what a TM2 gains in the show: greatly heightened versions of their existing powers. You can argue that the process was unfinished, but then again, so was Cheetor&#039;s, and he didn&#039;t gain any nifty new power; you can say that she was technically dead when the process finished, but Dinobot was a cloned blank protoform with half a spark that&#039;s not even his own, Cheetor woas on death&#039;s doorstep himself, and Megatron was thrown into a lava bath and left for dead. Again, none of them gained any new powers. The only thing that logically fits here is her psychic link with Tarantulas, and considering how much he screwed with her mind, how can you say there was no trace of the link left in her head after it was severed?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 01:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::: I know I haven&#039;t seen BW in awhile, but I&#039;m pretty sure BA never had any magical healing factor (not as sure about Cheetor, though). Plus, it was never even implied that BA had telepathy. All that was from the mind link, which was entirely Tarantulas. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: First, Walky, both Cheetor and Dinobot had glow-effect tentacle healing powers; Dinobot was seen using it more actively and often than Cheetor, but Cheetor did use them to heal himself fully (if unknowingly) after he was almost slagged by his dip in the Transmetal driver. And the &#039;spidey-sense&#039; you&#039;re talking about? If you&#039;re thinking of him blasting Waspinator behind his back without even looking, that was just a &#039;cool trick&#039; (Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about the Pred a few seconds before he blasted him), and even if it wasn&#039;t, it&#039;s been shown in the first and possibly second season that Cheetor&#039;s dreams sometimes foretell future events, so his &#039;spidey-sense&#039; could just be an upgraded version of that power.&lt;br /&gt;
Second, BA never showed any healing powers before or after her transformation to TM2, but then again, she&#039;s rarely damaged to the point where she&#039;d need them, so she didn&#039;t really have a chance to use them. As for the link being all Tarantulas, it&#039;s true he initiated it, but again, it&#039;s been established that the link went both ways; BA mentioned in Other Visits that she could get inside Tarantulas&#039; head while the link was established, and gleaned a lot of information about the Tripredacus agent as a result, and both of them realized just how devastating BA&#039;s death would be to Tarantulas through the link in Tangled Web. Not only did Tarantulas feel BA&#039;s pain from her energon exposure through the link, but he also mentioned that if BA succeeded in committing suicide, it would feedback through the link and wipe him out, as well, hence BA&#039;s pleas to &amp;quot;save them both&amp;quot; by terminating the link. So, while Tarantulas created the link in the first place, it wasn&#039;t entirely one-sided, and no amount of mental torture would not leave any trace in the tortured party&#039;s mind.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 02:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:All of this is irrelevant to the fact that you&#039;re trying to push your own theories that aren&#039;t in the actual canon. If you see other cases of &amp;quot;fanon&amp;quot; in this wikia, then &#039;&#039;fix them&#039;&#039;. That fanon exists does not mean we should add &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; fanon. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 23:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excuse me? Who says they&#039;re &#039;&#039;my&#039;&#039; theories? As I said before, there was a discussion about this very same thing on Ben Yee&#039;s Transformers forum a while back (since deleted, unfortunately), and most people on there agreed with the theory. In fact, the Tarantulas/BA discussions on there hint constantly at their mind link and its relationship to her TM2 telekinesis, so this is &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; just my own personal pet belief. Fanon it may be, but I&#039;m completely shocked and disgusted that all of you are acting like I&#039;m the only one who&#039;s &amp;quot;dumb enough&amp;quot; to believe it, and it&#039;s &amp;quot;obvious&amp;quot; to anyone else that it&#039;s &#039;&#039;not true&#039;&#039;. That, personally, smacks of just as much personal bias as you seem to believe my posting this theory to have.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 07:21, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think you&#039;re taking this WAY too personally. When it comes to Fannon the simple answer is it really doesn&#039;t belong here. If it&#039;s something widely and universally adopted it may get a mention but otherwise fan theories just have no place here. This fan theory is definately not widely adopted nor is it an unavoidably logical assumption, as evidenced by the fact that no one else here had ever heard of it or believes there&#039;s any real evidence to support it asside from the wildly ephemeral and circumstantial. Keep it in your personal fannon sure, but recognize it for what it is and let it go already.&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;m taking it persnally, because of how it was treated on here: like it was some wild babbling of one fan trying to push his personal beliefs on a wiki, and that there&#039;s no possible way it could&#039;ve happened. Why do you think all my edits of it say that it was &#039;&#039;possible&#039;&#039; that it could&#039;ve happened, instaed of that it &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039;? Not saying that they aren&#039;t right, and it &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; just wild speculation (in fact, I emailed Mainframe to ask them about it directly just to put this debate to rest), but the main point of contention I have here, is that the mods seem to be so biased in their belief that there&#039;s no way it could possibly even hint to be true, even after the evidence is laid out, that they won&#039;t hear it. I even asked them for their explanation for how BA&#039;s telekinesis spontaneously developed, if not from her mind link with Tarantulas, and they essentially said &amp;quot;Uhhhh, we can&#039;t, but it definitely did&amp;quot;. They mentioned Dinobot&#039;s healing factor and Cheetor&#039;s &amp;quot;spider-sense&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;new powers&amp;quot; like BA&#039;s telekinesis; Cheetor showed those same healing powers during Feral Scream, and the techspecs for the TM2 line itself (trust me, I used to own the entire line) establishes it as being &#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039; among TM2s, while Cheetor&#039;s been established to have somewhat-prophetic dreams earlier in the show (and, since Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about Waspinator moments before Cheetor shot him, it&#039;s likely it was more or less a &amp;quot;cool trick&amp;quot; to show off how the process changed him). The fact that all of the evidence is stacked against them, and they can&#039;t even come up with an adequate defense for their own pet theories, yet they act and pretty much demand that it&#039;s the only logical explanation is what&#039;s driving this personally to me, not my own theories being rejected. I understand that this is a wiki, and a wiki&#039;s for truth, which is why I haven&#039;t reposted the theory ever since I started posting on this discussion, but the mod&#039;s own theories have even less evidence to back it up than mine does, so what the hell?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 19:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Your evidence is &amp;quot;she was once controlled tele&#039;&#039;&#039;pathically&#039;&#039;&#039;, so that&#039;s the obvious reason why she&#039;s later a tele&#039;&#039;&#039;kenetic&#039;&#039;&#039;, despite all of the other TM2s gaining similar powers at the same time she gets telekenesis.&amp;quot;  Your evidence is crap.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::And since when did the other TM2&#039;s get telekinetic abilities? Or even anything similar to them? How in the hell can you relate Dinobot&#039;s spark healing to her Telekinesis? &#039;&#039;That&#039;&#039; is crap. And again, you haven&#039;t given me &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; explanation as to how Cheetor gained &#039;spider-sense&#039;, especially since the only hint that he used them was to knock Waspinator out from behind his back &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;after&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; Optimus warned him about it. So, let me get this straight: since the mind link was tele&#039;&#039;&#039;pathic&#039;&#039;&#039; and not tele&#039;&#039;&#039;kinetic&#039;&#039;&#039;, they can&#039;t possibly be related, even though they&#039;re both ESP-based powers &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; closely related in nearly all fiction that has them. Again, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;watch the show again&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, and you&#039;ll see that, besides the &#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039; spark healing, &#039;&#039;none&#039;&#039; of the TM2s besides BA gained any extra powers, just upgrades to what they had before. BA&#039;s telekinesis came right out of the blue, with no ties to her abilities before &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;other&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; than her link with Tarantulas, and you&#039;re saying they can&#039;t be related, since they&#039;re totally different things. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;I still haven&#039;t heard one explanation from any of you as to how she gained those powers, if that&#039;s the case.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; All I&#039;ve heard from you is &amp;quot;Uhhh, we have no explanation, but you&#039;re full of shit, because it didn&#039;t happen that way&amp;quot;. You can&#039;t even back up your own argument, and yet you&#039;re completely convinced that mine is total crap. You even admit that my evidence coincides with my theory, which is a lot more than your lack of evidence is doing for yours. So again, I have to wonder if you guys actually watch and pay attention to the media that&#039;s covered in this wiki site, or if you&#039;re just winging it, because you certainly don&#039;t sound like you have a leg to stand on.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Y&#039;know, that&#039;s not the only time Cheetor&#039;s &amp;quot;spidey-sense&amp;quot; kicks in. In &#039;&#039;[[Go With The Flow]]&#039;&#039;, while Megatron is busy aiming his cannon at the Maximal base, Cheetor&#039;s spark compartment pops open on it&#039;s own and his spark begins to glow, leading him to look down at it and go &amp;quot;Uh-oh.&amp;quot; Just felt like pointing that out. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:50, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::And Cheetor was shown dreaming of Starscream&#039;s return and his rescue by Rattrap at the beginning of The Web, both of which came true. Your point? It&#039;s been established that Cheetor had some kind of precognitive abilities in his dreams a long time prior to Feral Scream, so again, his &amp;quot;spider sense&amp;quot; isn&#039;t a new, spontaneous power, but more than likely an upgrade of that established one.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ok, Listen closely to these points:&lt;br /&gt;
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*1) Telepathy and and Telekenesis are two entirely different things. &lt;br /&gt;
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*2) Nothing in the show really hints at ANY sort of connection between her time with Tarrantulas and telekinetic powers. &lt;br /&gt;
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*3) Yes, they COULD be connected, but thats not the same things as having any reason to believe they are. It could just as easilly be something caused by her Transmetal II transformation. There&#039;s no real evidence in the show that ANYTHING caused it. It could be a power she ALWAYS had but just never used before for all we know. Heck, it could be a *Magnetic* power like Windcharger has, since there&#039;s good evidence of that existing in TFs before and since. And if it WAS magnetic rather than psychic that would destroy your whole argument, yes? No reason to think it&#039;s not.&lt;br /&gt;
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*4) So since it&#039;s all baseless speculation none of it belongs.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*1) Telepathy and Telekinesis are two entirely different things, eh? They&#039;re both ESP powers, and by and large most fiction that gives their characters some kind of psychic powers often have one power as its main one and others as sub-powers; for instance, Jean Grey has primarily Telekinetic powers, but she&#039;s also known to have some telepathic powers as well, long before the concept of &amp;quot;secondary mutations&amp;quot; was developed; Professor X had both Telepathy and Astral Projection, different powers but still ESP. Sage was a Cyberpath, but also could &amp;quot;jump-start&amp;quot; mutant genes with her mind, mutually exclusive aside from being ESP-based powers. Phoebe Halliwell originally had precognition, but soon developed empathy, as well, and those are totally unrelated-yet-still-psychic powers. See what I mean? You can have one transition into another, or develop simultaneously, so just because telepathy and telekinesis are &#039;totally different&#039;, they&#039;re still psychic powers and it&#039;s not that much of a stretch for one to develop into the other (especially since they&#039;re both mental manipulation, just one is done with other people&#039;s minds while the other is done with something more physical).&lt;br /&gt;
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::::*2) That may be true, but then again, her use of telekinesis in Master Blaster was just so sudden and so unexplained that there&#039;s nothing really definitive to connect it to. Sill, it&#039;s a psychic power, and she was stuck in a psychic connection with Tarantulas for the first four episodes of season 2, which was not only forced on her &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;by Tarantulas downloading himself into her mind, which needed a specialized machine to get him out and into his real body&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, but also was forced to be broken by a suicide attempt &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;that fed back on the link and would&#039;ve killed them both had it not been broken&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, it makes the most sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*3.) You&#039;re right; it could&#039;ve been magnetic and not true telekinesis. But again, &#039;&#039;nothing&#039;&#039; about BA before then showed that she had some kind of magnetic powers; she had her webs and grappling hook, but she&#039;s shown to use those after her upgrade to TM2, anyway, so you can rule those out as influences on her new power. And again, aside from the spark-healing (which &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;both&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; Dinobot and Cheetor where shown to have, and which the story behind the TM2 line establishes is &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; for TM2s), all of the abilities that they show have been upgrades of abilities that they already had; Cheetor&#039;s prophetic dreams from Season 1 could&#039;ve easily been upgraded to his &#039;spider-sense&#039; in Season 3 (especially since they&#039;re a lot closer to functionality), and the original Dinobot could fire lasers from his eyes, which the clone could do, as well. Cheetor could &#039;run&#039; in the air at Mach 2; he gained the ability to fly in his last body, and he&#039;s always been naturally fast. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;No new, spontaneous powers were developed between either of them, unlike BA.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; So, again, a wizard did it isn&#039;t flying with me.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*4) There&#039;s a lot more basis in the theory than saying &amp;quot;Uhhh, it just happened&amp;quot;, so while it &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; still fanon, it&#039;s not mere speculation.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:55, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: 1) ESP means &amp;quot;Extra Sensory Perception&amp;quot;. Telekenesis is in no way ESP. Both are psychic powers, that&#039;s all. The fact that X-men comics made a connection between the two sometimes, for some characters doesn&#039;t make them the same thing or negate the thousands of sci fi stories where they&#039;re in no way at all connected.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::IE. - Just because you can construct a feasible explanation for something with some circumstantial support/links does NOT mean it&#039;s more than just speculation or really likely. Your idea COULD work, but in the oppinion of most folks here (as you can see) there&#039;s just not enough in the show supporting it that it deserves inclusion over the more concise &amp;quot;causes unknown explanation.&amp;quot; --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 23:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You still aren&#039;t getting it. It&#039;s not contained in &#039;&#039;official&#039;&#039; sources. I don&#039;t care if you and some other guys on a message board spent eternity talking about why this happened, any speculation (that&#039;s what it is) you guys pull out of nowhere is &#039;&#039;not official&#039;&#039;. It&#039;s that simple. Your argument has as much official basis as &amp;quot;Blackarachnia, in one throwaway scene, can move a random piece of debris because she&#039;s a girl, like Jean Grey!&amp;quot; [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 00:35, 4 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:So why are there so many OTHER items not contained in &#039;official&#039; sources being listed on the wiki, eh? The TM2 Driver wiki states that Megs probably found it in one of the Vok machines, but that&#039;s nowhere near official. But, oh, wait, the Driver is of &amp;quot;alien origin&amp;quot; like the Vok, and the comics listed it as a Vok data storage unit, so it MUST&#039;VE come from the Metalhunter or that floating island that BA absconded with, right? Just because it was a Vok object, doesn&#039;t mean it came from a Vok site; it may have fell from the giant moon beam weapon that Primal destroyed, and Megs NEVER visited there. &lt;br /&gt;
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The fact remains, that you guys are so biased against the possibility that her telekinesis might&#039;ve had a link with her mindmeld with Tarantulas, that you&#039;ll blatantly ignore the evidence for it and even treat two psychic powers that have been linked together for years in fiction as being completely mutually exclusive from one another just to justify your view, which is just as &#039;unofficial&#039; as my theory is. The shows don&#039;t say that it developed on its own from the Driver, either, does it? It just appears without explanation and disappears just as sudden. All I&#039;m saying is that it&#039;s a possibility, whereas you guys are saying that it&#039;s stone cold fact that it&#039;s not related to &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;anything&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, how do you consider my posting the theory as &#039;vandalism&#039;? because I keep on reposting it after it&#039;s deleted? If I was really vandalizing, I&#039;d replace all the pics on here of photoshopped nude images of Venus Terzo, or delete it and replace it with a wiki on hair cream. &#039;&#039;That&#039;&#039; is vandalism; posting a fanon theory on here is nothing, especially since there&#039;s a lot of fanon theories allowed on here. It&#039;s really becoming apparent that you allow them because you agree with them; you don&#039;t agree with this theory, so it&#039;s &#039;&#039;obviously&#039;&#039; vandalism. That&#039;s hypocritical, and furthermore, that&#039;s downright selfish and arrogant. But hey, you&#039;re the moderators, so you have the ultimate power to enforce your beliefs, right? [[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 01:58, 4 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You don&#039;t get to make up new definitions for &amp;quot;vandalism&amp;quot; just so you can claim it&#039;s not what you&#039;re doing.  Sorry.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 02:41, 4 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::You&#039;re right, he would have to edit the article defining what vandalism is first. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:19, 4 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You just proven my point. Arrogant, self-important hypocrites, the lot of you. Ban my IP if you want, I don&#039;t care anymore. This wiki is utter shit; a REAL wiki wouldn&#039;t allow so much blatant personal comments AS PART OF THE ARTICLES. If you were really concerned about being professional and sticking to the facts, you&#039;d enforce against such comments in the actual wiki, like the &amp;quot;naughty, naughty girl&amp;quot; comment regarding BA&#039;s spiked collar, or indeed, ALL of the captions in the pics. I also post end edit regularly on the ORIGINAL Wikipedia, and I know their vandalism policy; what I was posting on BA&#039;s article would NOT be considered vandalism on there, even if it got deleted and I reposted it. Only blatant attempts to destroy the wiki or provide blatantly false information (which you can&#039;t prove and HAVE not proved my theory to be, yet) are considered vandalism. At most, I would be asked to integrate it into the main article so the Trivia section would be minimalized. It&#039;s simply the fact that it&#039;s a theory you don&#039;t like that you call it vandalism.&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;I question the placement of the BW Manga between the US BW and BM material.  We have been aligning most entries according to continuity, then series.  (See [[Hot Shot (UT)]], for example.  Cartoon:Armada, Energon, Cybertron; then Comic:Armada, Energon.)  That way, the summaries of stories flow logically and chronologically. I would probably prefer to move the BW Manga section after Universe.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed and done.  Why is Legends seperate?  Is it for the Armadqa tale?  is she even IN The Armada tale?  Or are was counting Furman&#039;s contribution as a seperate continuity?&lt;br /&gt;
In EITHER case, the banner &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; is an inaccurate container-continuity for the tales it contains, becase a character might appear in SEVERAL Legends tales, in multiple continuities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of Legends, I&#039;d say put the story/stories they appear in&#039;s title in italics as a header above the descriptive paragraph. - [[User: M Sipher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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So I&#039;m looking at the decomposing corpse of TFPulp. http://web.archive.org/web/20041019195546/www.tfpulp.com/archive/seiyuu/seiyuu.html She&#039;s all the way down at the bottom.  Says Black Widow&#039;s voice actress was &amp;quot;Ryoka Yuzuki aka Kanori Kadomatsu aka Ayumi Nagashii&amp;quot;.  Ryoka Yuzuki would appear to be her real name.  Is the one listed, Iwata, another alias? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia&#039;s Telekinesis and it&#039;s connection to Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m seriously getting tired of being accused of vandalism whenever I post that BA&#039;s TM2 telekinesis is likely a product of her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded. I&#039;ve been told repeatedly that it&#039;s an &#039;unsubstantiated rumor&#039;, but I&#039;ve seen similar theories about multiple entries in this site that have far less evidence to back them up than this has.&lt;br /&gt;
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While it&#039;s not stated directly, the evidence in-show obviously sets up the mind link as the source of the telekinesis: first, the link was stated as &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; in nature, not electronic or otherwise artificial, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any transmissions being made when the link was being used. It was also very powerful, and worked both ways; not only was Tarantulas able to speak through BA with it &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; cause her mental pain, but she also acquired a lot of information from his memories, information that she retained after the link was severed. Plus, when BA threatened to kill herself via energon radiation if the link wasn&#039;t terminated, her anguish was visibly shared through the link by Tarantulas, and even he noted that, if BA &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; terminate herself, the link would&#039;ve ensured his death, as well. There&#039;s also the debatable scene where Tarantulas forces himself inside BA&#039;s head after he&#039;s burned by Inferno, and had to download himself into his new TM body &#039;&#039;from BA&#039;s noggin&#039;&#039;, which could meaning that the link was established by his &#039;&#039;literally inhabiting her mind&#039;&#039;. Oh, and besides mutant spark-aided healing, I don&#039;t recall the show &#039;&#039;ever&#039;&#039; stating that the TM2 process granted a Transformer brand new abilities that they didn&#039;t have before, just upgrades to what they already had, meaning that the potential for BA&#039;s telekinesis had to already be there to begin with, and since BA was never even hinted at having the required mental faculties for psychokinesis, even before the mind-link, where else &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; she get it from?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, it&#039;s a theory, but it&#039;s a theory blatantly supported by the cartoon. Her eyes even glow the same color as when Tarantulas gained control of her during the link when she levitated the girder to dispatch Rampage, for crying out loud. If that doesn&#039;t solidify the &amp;quot;spider mindmeld alien upgrade&amp;quot; theory, then I dunno what does.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In no way is either telepathy or telekinesis a &amp;quot;powered up&amp;quot; version of the other.  They are totally unrelated abilities aside from both being brain things.  Precognition, clairvoyance, astral projection, etc., are also &amp;quot;psychic&amp;quot; brain things, but that doesn&#039;t mean they are related.  Honestly, until Derik posted to my talk page about it saying, &amp;quot;they are both psychic abilities&amp;quot;, I seriously had no idea why you would think they were connected.  There are *tons* of types of psychic ability.  All of the evidence you cite, other than the eye glow thing which might have something to it, is merely &#039;&#039;consistent with&#039;&#039; your theory; it doesn&#039;t &#039;&#039;support&#039;&#039; you.  All the same evidence is also consistent with her telekinesis having nothing to do with Tarantulas.&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he said. And, as far as eye-glow is concerned, I&#039;m WAY more inclined to chalk it up to &amp;quot;Mainframe knew how to do that effect&amp;quot; than them making some kind of conscious reference to an unrelated event practically a full season back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Which other Transformers were confirmed to have actual psychic abilities, especially in Beast Wars? Besides, the link not only allowed BA and Tarantulas to communicate telepathically, but it also allowed Tarantulas to TAKE OVER HER BODY and INFLICT PAIN ON HER PSYCHICALLY, neither of which are generally accepted as being strictly telepathic abilities. Plus, read any kind of fiction that includes psychic abilities, and you&#039;ll almost always see a telepath manifest telekinetic abilities of some form. It also makes far more sense than say...Primacron&#039;s Oracle assistant being THE Oracle of Beast Machines (which also has no evidence to support it, yet it&#039;s allowed in Primacron Oracle&#039;s article). Essentailly, all you&#039;re saying is Mainframe is too stupid to make self references of past subplots, which is interesting considering how they touched up on Tigatron and Airazor&#039;s abduction, the fate of Sentinel, BA&#039;s shell program, Tarantulas&#039; hatred for the Vok...need I go on? Honestly, do you guys even watch the media whose wikis you monitor?&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Dude, I&#039;ve seen Beast Wars more times than I can count.  I have it memorized.  No where was it remotely implied that Blackarachnia got telekinesis powers from having a mind-link with somebody else.  Those aren&#039;t even the same power!  Telekinetics and telepaths are two completely different things!  And please stop insulting people.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Didn&#039;t one of the BotCon comics retcon the Oracle as being the assistant? I&#039;m not sure of that. And typically, when we have fannon in an article, it is 1. in the trivia section, 2, is in it&#039;s own paragraph seperate from the cannon, and 3. is clearly stated as such. And even then, it&#039;s only included if it was notable in the fandom (aka, who was Dion built into, is Brawn dead or alive, who became Cyclonus, Scourge, and the Sweeps, etc. This is the only long discussion on this topic I&#039;ve seen, ans you seem to be the only one who insists the two abilities are linked. Yes, you can say the fiction doesn&#039;t contridict it, but you can claim the same thing about Alpha Trion being a pimp before the rebellion against the Quintessons. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::BotCon comics never mentioned the G1 Oracle, I&#039;m pretty sure.  (Its name is known only from the script, so I wouldn&#039;t expect that sort of thing to show up.)  Regardless, I&#039;ve removed that bit from that page&#039;s trivia section.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2? As I said before, there&#039;s nothing stated in the show that says that the process gives the Transformer new powers besides the spark-healing. In fact, beyond Blackarachnia, NONE of the TM2s in the show gained new abilities from the driver. Telekinesis is different from telepathy, fine, but as I explained, the mind link between BA and Tarantulas was NOT just merely telepathy; if it was, he shouldn&#039;t have been able to control her body, nor inflict pain on her. In fact, the moment he was restored to his original body, BA tried to shoot him, and what does he do? Force her mentally to turn her gun to her own head. That&#039;s not telepathy, now is it? It&#039;s just assumed to me &#039;mere&#039; telepathy, because that&#039;s for the most part what Tarantulas used it for: seeing and knowing whatever BA saw and knew.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 00:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::&amp;quot;What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2?&amp;quot;  Uh, yeah.  I think that&#039;s obvious.  That was sort of the deal.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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66.233.183.59, you seem to be taking this all really personally.  We are not saying that &amp;quot;Mainframe is too stupid&amp;quot; to have referenced a past episode.  We are saying that in this particular case we don&#039;t think they were doing so.&lt;br /&gt;
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Controlling somebody&#039;s body and causing them to feel pain are MOST DEFINITELY applications of telepathy as portrayed in many works of fiction.  Both come about through manipulating the victom&#039;s mind, not by applying force to the limbs.  The only story I can think of offhand where telekinesis is considered to be something &amp;quot;beyond&amp;quot; but connected to telepathy is &#039;&#039;Babylon 5&#039;&#039;, and even in that series, telepaths with no teke inflicted pain and mind-control on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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You are right, there is no &amp;quot;other&amp;quot; explanation for where her powers came from. There is also no explanation for where the Transmetal Driver came from in the first place, how it brought her back from the dead, or why it made Cheetor go Jeckyll/Hyde.  This doesn&#039;t mean that just because some idea some people discussed *can* fit the canon that it is *supported* by the canon.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::After none of the other TM2s in the show gained any such spontaneous abilities?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::...but they did!  I&#039;m starting to wonder who really hasn&#039;t watched the show, here.  Dinobot had magical healing factor.  Cheetor had Spidey-sense.  And they all used the same crazy glow-effect tentacles.  TM2s had special mutant powers.  It was their deal, as I said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Unlikely. I&#039;m sorry, but &amp;quot;a wizard did it&amp;quot; just isn&#039;t flying with me, especially considering how much of a freak accident it would have to be in order for it to work. Did Cheetor gain the ability to teleport, for instance, or Dinobot the power to slow time? No, they did not; aside from the spark-healing (which seems to be pretty universal for all Transmetal 2&#039;s), any powers they gained were mere upgrades to whatever they had before; Cheetor could run faster and &#039;air dash&#039; like his original Transmetal form, while DInobot had a laser-firing eyepiece and razor-sharp melee weapons. If you consider them TM2&#039;s, only Tigerhawk gained any &#039;new&#039; powers, due to direct Vok influence and not the modified driver; Megatron gained the ability to fly and shoot things from his gun/head hand. Again, nothing new there. So why is it that only Blackarachnia gained a power that&#039;s not only completely new, but according to you not even remotely related to her in the least? The psychic link theory is more feasible to me, because of the consistency it has with all of the other showings of what a TM2 gains in the show: greatly heightened versions of their existing powers. You can argue that the process was unfinished, but then again, so was Cheetor&#039;s, and he didn&#039;t gain any nifty new power; you can say that she was technically dead when the process finished, but Dinobot was a cloned blank protoform with half a spark that&#039;s not even his own, Cheetor woas on death&#039;s doorstep himself, and Megatron was thrown into a lava bath and left for dead. Again, none of them gained any new powers. The only thing that logically fits here is her psychic link with Tarantulas, and considering how much he screwed with her mind, how can you say there was no trace of the link left in her head after it was severed?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 01:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::: I know I haven&#039;t seen BW in awhile, but I&#039;m pretty sure BA never had any magical healing factor (not as sure about Cheetor, though). Plus, it was never even implied that BA had telepathy. All that was from the mind link, which was entirely Tarantulas. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: First, Walky, both Cheetor and Dinobot had glow-effect tentacle healing powers; Dinobot was seen using it more actively and often than Cheetor, but Cheetor did use them to heal himself fully (if unknowingly) after he was almost slagged by his dip in the Transmetal driver. And the &#039;spidey-sense&#039; you&#039;re talking about? If you&#039;re thinking of him blasting Waspinator behind his back without even looking, that was just a &#039;cool trick&#039; (Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about the Pred a few seconds before he blasted him), and even if it wasn&#039;t, it&#039;s been shown in the first and possibly second season that Cheetor&#039;s dreams sometimes foretell future events, so his &#039;spidey-sense&#039; could just be an upgraded version of that power.&lt;br /&gt;
Second, BA never showed any healing powers before or after her transformation to TM2, but then again, she&#039;s rarely damaged to the point where she&#039;d need them, so she didn&#039;t really have a chance to use them. As for the link being all Tarantulas, it&#039;s true he initiated it, but again, it&#039;s been established that the link went both ways; BA mentioned in Other Visits that she could get inside Tarantulas&#039; head while the link was established, and gleaned a lot of information about the Tripredacus agent as a result, and both of them realized just how devastating BA&#039;s death would be to Tarantulas through the link in Tangled Web. Not only did Tarantulas feel BA&#039;s pain from her energon exposure through the link, but he also mentioned that if BA succeeded in committing suicide, it would feedback through the link and wipe him out, as well, hence BA&#039;s pleas to &amp;quot;save them both&amp;quot; by terminating the link. So, while Tarantulas created the link in the first place, it wasn&#039;t entirely one-sided, and no amount of mental torture would not leave any trace in the tortured party&#039;s mind.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 02:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:All of this is irrelevant to the fact that you&#039;re trying to push your own theories that aren&#039;t in the actual canon. If you see other cases of &amp;quot;fanon&amp;quot; in this wikia, then &#039;&#039;fix them&#039;&#039;. That fanon exists does not mean we should add &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; fanon. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 23:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excuse me? Who says they&#039;re &#039;&#039;my&#039;&#039; theories? As I said before, there was a discussion about this very same thing on Ben Yee&#039;s Transformers forum a while back (since deleted, unfortunately), and most people on there agreed with the theory. In fact, the Tarantulas/BA discussions on there hint constantly at their mind link and its relationship to her TM2 telekinesis, so this is &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; just my own personal pet belief. Fanon it may be, but I&#039;m completely shocked and disgusted that all of you are acting like I&#039;m the only one who&#039;s &amp;quot;dumb enough&amp;quot; to believe it, and it&#039;s &amp;quot;obvious&amp;quot; to anyone else that it&#039;s &#039;&#039;not true&#039;&#039;. That, personally, smacks of just as much personal bias as you seem to believe my posting this theory to have.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 07:21, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think you&#039;re taking this WAY too personally. When it comes to Fannon the simple answer is it really doesn&#039;t belong here. If it&#039;s something widely and universally adopted it may get a mention but otherwise fan theories just have no place here. This fan theory is definately not widely adopted nor is it an unavoidably logical assumption, as evidenced by the fact that no one else here had ever heard of it or believes there&#039;s any real evidence to support it asside from the wildly ephemeral and circumstantial. Keep it in your personal fannon sure, but recognize it for what it is and let it go already.&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;m taking it persnally, because of how it was treated on here: like it was some wild babbling of one fan trying to push his personal beliefs on a wiki, and that there&#039;s no possible way it could&#039;ve happened. Why do you think all my edits of it say that it was &#039;&#039;possible&#039;&#039; that it could&#039;ve happened, instaed of that it &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039;? Not saying that they aren&#039;t right, and it &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; just wild speculation (in fact, I emailed Mainframe to ask them about it directly just to put this debate to rest), but the main point of contention I have here, is that the mods seem to be so biased in their belief that there&#039;s no way it could possibly even hint to be true, even after the evidence is laid out, that they won&#039;t hear it. I even asked them for their explanation for how BA&#039;s telekinesis spontaneously developed, if not from her mind link with Tarantulas, and they essentially said &amp;quot;Uhhhh, we can&#039;t, but it definitely did&amp;quot;. They mentioned Dinobot&#039;s healing factor and Cheetor&#039;s &amp;quot;spider-sense&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;new powers&amp;quot; like BA&#039;s telekinesis; Cheetor showed those same healing powers during Feral Scream, and the techspecs for the TM2 line itself (trust me, I used to own the entire line) establishes it as being &#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039; among TM2s, while Cheetor&#039;s been established to have somewhat-prophetic dreams earlier in the show (and, since Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about Waspinator moments before Cheetor shot him, it&#039;s likely it was more or less a &amp;quot;cool trick&amp;quot; to show off how the process changed him). The fact that all of the evidence is stacked against them, and they can&#039;t even come up with an adequate defense for their own pet theories, yet they act and pretty much demand that it&#039;s the only logical explanation is what&#039;s driving this personally to me, not my own theories being rejected. I understand that this is a wiki, and a wiki&#039;s for truth, which is why I haven&#039;t reposted the theory ever since I started posting on this discussion, but the mod&#039;s own theories have even less evidence to back it up than mine does, so what the hell?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 19:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Your evidence is &amp;quot;she was once controlled tele&#039;&#039;&#039;pathically&#039;&#039;&#039;, so that&#039;s the obvious reason why she&#039;s later a tele&#039;&#039;&#039;kenetic&#039;&#039;&#039;, despite all of the other TM2s gaining similar powers at the same time she gets telekenesis.&amp;quot;  Your evidence is crap.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::And since when did the other TM2&#039;s get telekinetic abilities? Or even anything similar to them? How in the hell can you relate Dinobot&#039;s spark healing to her Telekinesis? &#039;&#039;That&#039;&#039; is crap. And again, you haven&#039;t given me &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; explanation as to how Cheetor gained &#039;spider-sense&#039;, especially since the only hint that he used them was to knock Waspinator out from behind his back &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;after&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; Optimus warned him about it. So, let me get this straight: since the mind link was tele&#039;&#039;&#039;pathic&#039;&#039;&#039; and not tele&#039;&#039;&#039;kinetic&#039;&#039;&#039;, they can&#039;t possibly be related, even though they&#039;re both ESP-based powers &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; closely related in nearly all fiction that has them. Again, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;watch the show again&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, and you&#039;ll see that, besides the &#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039; spark healing, &#039;&#039;none&#039;&#039; of the TM2s besides BA gained any extra powers, just upgrades to what they had before. BA&#039;s telekinesis came right out of the blue, with no ties to her abilities before &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;other&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; than her link with Tarantulas, and you&#039;re saying they can&#039;t be related, since they&#039;re totally different things. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;I still haven&#039;t heard one explanation from any of you as to how she gained those powers, if that&#039;s the case.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; All I&#039;ve heard from you is &amp;quot;Uhhh, we have no explanation, but you&#039;re full of shit, because it didn&#039;t happen that way&amp;quot;. You can&#039;t even back up your own argument, and yet you&#039;re completely convinced that mine is total crap. You even admit that my evidence coincides with my theory, which is a lot more than your lack of evidence is doing for yours. So again, I have to wonder if you guys actually watch and pay attention to the media that&#039;s covered in this wiki site, or if you&#039;re just winging it, because you certainly don&#039;t sound like you have a leg to stand on.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Y&#039;know, that&#039;s not the only time Cheetor&#039;s &amp;quot;spidey-sense&amp;quot; kicks in. In &#039;&#039;[[Go With The Flow]]&#039;&#039;, while Megatron is busy aiming his cannon at the Maximal base, Cheetor&#039;s spark compartment pops open on it&#039;s own and his spark begins to glow, leading him to look down at it and go &amp;quot;Uh-oh.&amp;quot; Just felt like pointing that out. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:50, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::And Cheetor was shown dreaming of Starscream&#039;s return and his rescue by Rattrap at the beginning of The Web, both of which came true. Your point? It&#039;s been established that Cheetor had some kind of precognitive abilities in his dreams a long time prior to Feral Scream, so again, his &amp;quot;spider sense&amp;quot; isn&#039;t a new, spontaneous power, but more than likely an upgrade of that established one.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*1) Telepathy and and Telekenesis are two entirely different things. &lt;br /&gt;
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*3) Yes, they COULD be connected, but thats not the same things as having any reason to believe they are. It could just as easilly be something caused by her Transmetal II transformation. There&#039;s no real evidence in the show that ANYTHING caused it. It could be a power she ALWAYS had but just never used before for all we know. Heck, it could be a *Magnetic* power like Windcharger has, since there&#039;s good evidence of that existing in TFs before and since. And if it WAS magnetic rather than psychic that would destroy your whole argument, yes? No reason to think it&#039;s not.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*1) Telepathy and Telekinesis are two entirely different things, eh? They&#039;re both ESP powers, and by and large most fiction that gives their characters some kind of psychic powers often have one power as its main one and others as sub-powers; for instance, Jean Grey has primarily Telekinetic powers, but she&#039;s also known to have some telepathic powers as well, long before the concept of &amp;quot;secondary mutations&amp;quot; was developed; Professor X had both Telepathy and Astral Projection, different powers but still ESP. Sage was a Cyberpath, but also could &amp;quot;jump-start&amp;quot; mutant genes with her mind, mutually exclusive aside from being ESP-based powers. Phoebe Halliwell originally had precognition, but soon developed empathy, as well, and those are totally unrelated-yet-still-psychic powers. See what I mean? You can have one transition into another, or develop simultaneously, so just because telepathy and telekinesis are &#039;totally different&#039;, they&#039;re still psychic powers and it&#039;s not that much of a stretch for one to develop into the other (especially since they&#039;re both mental manipulation, just one is done with other people&#039;s minds while the other is done with something more physical).&lt;br /&gt;
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::::*2) That may be true, but then again, her use of telekinesis in Master Blaster was just so sudden and so unexplained that there&#039;s nothing really definitive to connect it to. Sill, it&#039;s a psychic power, and she was stuck in a psychic connection with Tarantulas for the first four episodes of season 2, which was not only forced on her &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;by Tarantulas downloading himself into her mind, which needed a specialized machine to get him out and into his real body&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, but also was forced to be broken by a suicide attempt &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;that fed back on the link and would&#039;ve killed them both had it not been broken&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, it makes the most sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*3.) You&#039;re right; it could&#039;ve been magnetic and not true telekinesis. But again, &#039;&#039;nothing&#039;&#039; about BA before then showed that she had some kind of magnetic powers; she had her webs and grappling hook, but she&#039;s shown to use those after her upgrade to TM2, anyway, so you can rule those out as influences on her new power. And again, aside from the spark-healing (which &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;both&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; Dinobot and Cheetor where shown to have, and which the story behind the TM2 line establishes is &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; for TM2s), all of the abilities that they show have been upgrades of abilities that they already had; Cheetor&#039;s prophetic dreams from Season 1 could&#039;ve easily been upgraded to his &#039;spider-sense&#039; in Season 3 (especially since they&#039;re a lot closer to functionality), and the original Dinobot could fire lasers from his eyes, which the clone could do, as well. Cheetor could &#039;run&#039; in the air at Mach 2; he gained the ability to fly in his last body, and he&#039;s always been naturally fast. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;No new, spontaneous powers were developed between either of them, unlike BA.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; So, again, a wizard did it isn&#039;t flying with me.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*4) There&#039;s a lot more basis in the theory than saying &amp;quot;Uhhh, it just happened&amp;quot;, so while it &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; still fanon, it&#039;s not mere speculation.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:55, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: 1) ESP means &amp;quot;Extra Sensory Perception&amp;quot;. Telekenesis is in no way ESP. Both are psychic powers, that&#039;s all. The fact that X-men comics made a connection between the two sometimes, for some characters doesn&#039;t make them the same thing or negate the thousands of sci fi stories where they&#039;re in no way at all connected.&lt;br /&gt;
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::: 4) No, there&#039;s not. Your looking at things the wrong way.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&amp;quot;There&#039;s a huge new storm on Saturn that&#039;s possibly caused by aliens, as many respectable people have reported seeing extra-terestrials with advanced abillities in the past, and they would live in space where Saturn is, after all.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:::IE. - Just because you can construct a feasible explanation for something with some circumstantial support/links does NOT mean it&#039;s more than just speculation or really likely. Your idea COULD work, but in the oppinion of most folks here (as you can see) there&#039;s just not enough in the show supporting it that it deserves inclusion over the more concise &amp;quot;causes unknown explanation.&amp;quot; --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 23:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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You still aren&#039;t getting it. It&#039;s not contained in &#039;&#039;official&#039;&#039; sources. I don&#039;t care if you and some other guys on a message board spent eternity talking about why this happened, any speculation (that&#039;s what it is) you guys pull out of nowhere is &#039;&#039;not official&#039;&#039;. It&#039;s that simple. Your argument has as much official basis as &amp;quot;Blackarachnia, in one throwaway scene, can move a random piece of debris because she&#039;s a girl, like Jean Grey!&amp;quot; [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 00:35, 4 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:So why are there so many OTHER items not contained in &#039;official&#039; sources being listed on the wiki, eh? The TM2 Driver wiki states that Megs probably found it in one of the Vok machines, but that&#039;s nowhere near official. But, oh, wait, the Driver is of &amp;quot;alien origin&amp;quot; like the Vok, and the comics listed it as a Vok data storage unit, so it MUST&#039;VE come from the Metalhunter or that floating island that BA absconded with, right? Just because it was a Vok object, doesn&#039;t mean it came from a Vok site; it may have fell from the giant moon beam weapon that Primal destroyed, and Megs NEVER visited there. &lt;br /&gt;
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The fact remains, that you guys are so biased against the possibility that her telekinesis might&#039;ve had a link with her mindmeld with Tarantulas, that you&#039;ll blatantly ignore the evidence for it and even treat two psychic powers that have been linked together for years in fiction as being completely mutually exclusive from one another just to justify your view, which is just as &#039;unofficial&#039; as my theory is. The shows don&#039;t say that it developed on its own from the Driver, either, does it? It just appears without explanation and disappears just as sudden. All I&#039;m saying is that it&#039;s a possibility, whereas you guys are saying that it&#039;s stone cold fact that it&#039;s not related to &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;anything&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, how do you consider my posting the theory as &#039;vandalism&#039;? because I keep on reposting it after it&#039;s deleted? If I was really vandalizing, I&#039;d replace all the pics on here of photoshopped nude images of Venus Terzo, or delete it and replace it with a wiki on hair cream. &#039;&#039;That&#039;&#039; is vandalism; posting a fanon theory on here is nothing, especially since there&#039;s a lot of fanon theories allowed on here. It&#039;s really becoming apparent that you allow them because you agree with them; you don&#039;t agree with this theory, so it&#039;s &#039;&#039;obviously&#039;&#039; vandalism. That&#039;s hypocritical, and furthermore, that&#039;s downright selfish and arrogant. But hey, you&#039;re the moderators, so you have the ultimate power to enforce your beliefs, right? [[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 01:58, 4 May 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;I question the placement of the BW Manga between the US BW and BM material.  We have been aligning most entries according to continuity, then series.  (See [[Hot Shot (UT)]], for example.  Cartoon:Armada, Energon, Cybertron; then Comic:Armada, Energon.)  That way, the summaries of stories flow logically and chronologically. I would probably prefer to move the BW Manga section after Universe.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed and done.  Why is Legends seperate?  Is it for the Armadqa tale?  is she even IN The Armada tale?  Or are was counting Furman&#039;s contribution as a seperate continuity?&lt;br /&gt;
In EITHER case, the banner &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; is an inaccurate container-continuity for the tales it contains, becase a character might appear in SEVERAL Legends tales, in multiple continuities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of Legends, I&#039;d say put the story/stories they appear in&#039;s title in italics as a header above the descriptive paragraph. - [[User: M Sipher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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So I&#039;m looking at the decomposing corpse of TFPulp. http://web.archive.org/web/20041019195546/www.tfpulp.com/archive/seiyuu/seiyuu.html She&#039;s all the way down at the bottom.  Says Black Widow&#039;s voice actress was &amp;quot;Ryoka Yuzuki aka Kanori Kadomatsu aka Ayumi Nagashii&amp;quot;.  Ryoka Yuzuki would appear to be her real name.  Is the one listed, Iwata, another alias? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia&#039;s Telekinesis and it&#039;s connection to Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m seriously getting tired of being accused of vandalism whenever I post that BA&#039;s TM2 telekinesis is likely a product of her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded. I&#039;ve been told repeatedly that it&#039;s an &#039;unsubstantiated rumor&#039;, but I&#039;ve seen similar theories about multiple entries in this site that have far less evidence to back them up than this has.&lt;br /&gt;
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While it&#039;s not stated directly, the evidence in-show obviously sets up the mind link as the source of the telekinesis: first, the link was stated as &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; in nature, not electronic or otherwise artificial, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any transmissions being made when the link was being used. It was also very powerful, and worked both ways; not only was Tarantulas able to speak through BA with it &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; cause her mental pain, but she also acquired a lot of information from his memories, information that she retained after the link was severed. Plus, when BA threatened to kill herself via energon radiation if the link wasn&#039;t terminated, her anguish was visibly shared through the link by Tarantulas, and even he noted that, if BA &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; terminate herself, the link would&#039;ve ensured his death, as well. There&#039;s also the debatable scene where Tarantulas forces himself inside BA&#039;s head after he&#039;s burned by Inferno, and had to download himself into his new TM body &#039;&#039;from BA&#039;s noggin&#039;&#039;, which could meaning that the link was established by his &#039;&#039;literally inhabiting her mind&#039;&#039;. Oh, and besides mutant spark-aided healing, I don&#039;t recall the show &#039;&#039;ever&#039;&#039; stating that the TM2 process granted a Transformer brand new abilities that they didn&#039;t have before, just upgrades to what they already had, meaning that the potential for BA&#039;s telekinesis had to already be there to begin with, and since BA was never even hinted at having the required mental faculties for psychokinesis, even before the mind-link, where else &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; she get it from?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, it&#039;s a theory, but it&#039;s a theory blatantly supported by the cartoon. Her eyes even glow the same color as when Tarantulas gained control of her during the link when she levitated the girder to dispatch Rampage, for crying out loud. If that doesn&#039;t solidify the &amp;quot;spider mindmeld alien upgrade&amp;quot; theory, then I dunno what does.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In no way is either telepathy or telekinesis a &amp;quot;powered up&amp;quot; version of the other.  They are totally unrelated abilities aside from both being brain things.  Precognition, clairvoyance, astral projection, etc., are also &amp;quot;psychic&amp;quot; brain things, but that doesn&#039;t mean they are related.  Honestly, until Derik posted to my talk page about it saying, &amp;quot;they are both psychic abilities&amp;quot;, I seriously had no idea why you would think they were connected.  There are *tons* of types of psychic ability.  All of the evidence you cite, other than the eye glow thing which might have something to it, is merely &#039;&#039;consistent with&#039;&#039; your theory; it doesn&#039;t &#039;&#039;support&#039;&#039; you.  All the same evidence is also consistent with her telekinesis having nothing to do with Tarantulas.&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he said. And, as far as eye-glow is concerned, I&#039;m WAY more inclined to chalk it up to &amp;quot;Mainframe knew how to do that effect&amp;quot; than them making some kind of conscious reference to an unrelated event practically a full season back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Which other Transformers were confirmed to have actual psychic abilities, especially in Beast Wars? Besides, the link not only allowed BA and Tarantulas to communicate telepathically, but it also allowed Tarantulas to TAKE OVER HER BODY and INFLICT PAIN ON HER PSYCHICALLY, neither of which are generally accepted as being strictly telepathic abilities. Plus, read any kind of fiction that includes psychic abilities, and you&#039;ll almost always see a telepath manifest telekinetic abilities of some form. It also makes far more sense than say...Primacron&#039;s Oracle assistant being THE Oracle of Beast Machines (which also has no evidence to support it, yet it&#039;s allowed in Primacron Oracle&#039;s article). Essentailly, all you&#039;re saying is Mainframe is too stupid to make self references of past subplots, which is interesting considering how they touched up on Tigatron and Airazor&#039;s abduction, the fate of Sentinel, BA&#039;s shell program, Tarantulas&#039; hatred for the Vok...need I go on? Honestly, do you guys even watch the media whose wikis you monitor?&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Dude, I&#039;ve seen Beast Wars more times than I can count.  I have it memorized.  No where was it remotely implied that Blackarachnia got telekinesis powers from having a mind-link with somebody else.  Those aren&#039;t even the same power!  Telekinetics and telepaths are two completely different things!  And please stop insulting people.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Didn&#039;t one of the BotCon comics retcon the Oracle as being the assistant? I&#039;m not sure of that. And typically, when we have fannon in an article, it is 1. in the trivia section, 2, is in it&#039;s own paragraph seperate from the cannon, and 3. is clearly stated as such. And even then, it&#039;s only included if it was notable in the fandom (aka, who was Dion built into, is Brawn dead or alive, who became Cyclonus, Scourge, and the Sweeps, etc. This is the only long discussion on this topic I&#039;ve seen, ans you seem to be the only one who insists the two abilities are linked. Yes, you can say the fiction doesn&#039;t contridict it, but you can claim the same thing about Alpha Trion being a pimp before the rebellion against the Quintessons. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::BotCon comics never mentioned the G1 Oracle, I&#039;m pretty sure.  (Its name is known only from the script, so I wouldn&#039;t expect that sort of thing to show up.)  Regardless, I&#039;ve removed that bit from that page&#039;s trivia section.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2? As I said before, there&#039;s nothing stated in the show that says that the process gives the Transformer new powers besides the spark-healing. In fact, beyond Blackarachnia, NONE of the TM2s in the show gained new abilities from the driver. Telekinesis is different from telepathy, fine, but as I explained, the mind link between BA and Tarantulas was NOT just merely telepathy; if it was, he shouldn&#039;t have been able to control her body, nor inflict pain on her. In fact, the moment he was restored to his original body, BA tried to shoot him, and what does he do? Force her mentally to turn her gun to her own head. That&#039;s not telepathy, now is it? It&#039;s just assumed to me &#039;mere&#039; telepathy, because that&#039;s for the most part what Tarantulas used it for: seeing and knowing whatever BA saw and knew.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 00:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::&amp;quot;What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2?&amp;quot;  Uh, yeah.  I think that&#039;s obvious.  That was sort of the deal.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Controlling somebody&#039;s body and causing them to feel pain are MOST DEFINITELY applications of telepathy as portrayed in many works of fiction.  Both come about through manipulating the victom&#039;s mind, not by applying force to the limbs.  The only story I can think of offhand where telekinesis is considered to be something &amp;quot;beyond&amp;quot; but connected to telepathy is &#039;&#039;Babylon 5&#039;&#039;, and even in that series, telepaths with no teke inflicted pain and mind-control on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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You are right, there is no &amp;quot;other&amp;quot; explanation for where her powers came from. There is also no explanation for where the Transmetal Driver came from in the first place, how it brought her back from the dead, or why it made Cheetor go Jeckyll/Hyde.  This doesn&#039;t mean that just because some idea some people discussed *can* fit the canon that it is *supported* by the canon.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::After none of the other TM2s in the show gained any such spontaneous abilities?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::...but they did!  I&#039;m starting to wonder who really hasn&#039;t watched the show, here.  Dinobot had magical healing factor.  Cheetor had Spidey-sense.  And they all used the same crazy glow-effect tentacles.  TM2s had special mutant powers.  It was their deal, as I said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Unlikely. I&#039;m sorry, but &amp;quot;a wizard did it&amp;quot; just isn&#039;t flying with me, especially considering how much of a freak accident it would have to be in order for it to work. Did Cheetor gain the ability to teleport, for instance, or Dinobot the power to slow time? No, they did not; aside from the spark-healing (which seems to be pretty universal for all Transmetal 2&#039;s), any powers they gained were mere upgrades to whatever they had before; Cheetor could run faster and &#039;air dash&#039; like his original Transmetal form, while DInobot had a laser-firing eyepiece and razor-sharp melee weapons. If you consider them TM2&#039;s, only Tigerhawk gained any &#039;new&#039; powers, due to direct Vok influence and not the modified driver; Megatron gained the ability to fly and shoot things from his gun/head hand. Again, nothing new there. So why is it that only Blackarachnia gained a power that&#039;s not only completely new, but according to you not even remotely related to her in the least? The psychic link theory is more feasible to me, because of the consistency it has with all of the other showings of what a TM2 gains in the show: greatly heightened versions of their existing powers. You can argue that the process was unfinished, but then again, so was Cheetor&#039;s, and he didn&#039;t gain any nifty new power; you can say that she was technically dead when the process finished, but Dinobot was a cloned blank protoform with half a spark that&#039;s not even his own, Cheetor woas on death&#039;s doorstep himself, and Megatron was thrown into a lava bath and left for dead. Again, none of them gained any new powers. The only thing that logically fits here is her psychic link with Tarantulas, and considering how much he screwed with her mind, how can you say there was no trace of the link left in her head after it was severed?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 01:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::: I know I haven&#039;t seen BW in awhile, but I&#039;m pretty sure BA never had any magical healing factor (not as sure about Cheetor, though). Plus, it was never even implied that BA had telepathy. All that was from the mind link, which was entirely Tarantulas. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: First, Walky, both Cheetor and Dinobot had glow-effect tentacle healing powers; Dinobot was seen using it more actively and often than Cheetor, but Cheetor did use them to heal himself fully (if unknowingly) after he was almost slagged by his dip in the Transmetal driver. And the &#039;spidey-sense&#039; you&#039;re talking about? If you&#039;re thinking of him blasting Waspinator behind his back without even looking, that was just a &#039;cool trick&#039; (Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about the Pred a few seconds before he blasted him), and even if it wasn&#039;t, it&#039;s been shown in the first and possibly second season that Cheetor&#039;s dreams sometimes foretell future events, so his &#039;spidey-sense&#039; could just be an upgraded version of that power.&lt;br /&gt;
Second, BA never showed any healing powers before or after her transformation to TM2, but then again, she&#039;s rarely damaged to the point where she&#039;d need them, so she didn&#039;t really have a chance to use them. As for the link being all Tarantulas, it&#039;s true he initiated it, but again, it&#039;s been established that the link went both ways; BA mentioned in Other Visits that she could get inside Tarantulas&#039; head while the link was established, and gleaned a lot of information about the Tripredacus agent as a result, and both of them realized just how devastating BA&#039;s death would be to Tarantulas through the link in Tangled Web. Not only did Tarantulas feel BA&#039;s pain from her energon exposure through the link, but he also mentioned that if BA succeeded in committing suicide, it would feedback through the link and wipe him out, as well, hence BA&#039;s pleas to &amp;quot;save them both&amp;quot; by terminating the link. So, while Tarantulas created the link in the first place, it wasn&#039;t entirely one-sided, and no amount of mental torture would not leave any trace in the tortured party&#039;s mind.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 02:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:All of this is irrelevant to the fact that you&#039;re trying to push your own theories that aren&#039;t in the actual canon. If you see other cases of &amp;quot;fanon&amp;quot; in this wikia, then &#039;&#039;fix them&#039;&#039;. That fanon exists does not mean we should add &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; fanon. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 23:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excuse me? Who says they&#039;re &#039;&#039;my&#039;&#039; theories? As I said before, there was a discussion about this very same thing on Ben Yee&#039;s Transformers forum a while back (since deleted, unfortunately), and most people on there agreed with the theory. In fact, the Tarantulas/BA discussions on there hint constantly at their mind link and its relationship to her TM2 telekinesis, so this is &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; just my own personal pet belief. Fanon it may be, but I&#039;m completely shocked and disgusted that all of you are acting like I&#039;m the only one who&#039;s &amp;quot;dumb enough&amp;quot; to believe it, and it&#039;s &amp;quot;obvious&amp;quot; to anyone else that it&#039;s &#039;&#039;not true&#039;&#039;. That, personally, smacks of just as much personal bias as you seem to believe my posting this theory to have.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 07:21, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think you&#039;re taking this WAY too personally. When it comes to Fannon the simple answer is it really doesn&#039;t belong here. If it&#039;s something widely and universally adopted it may get a mention but otherwise fan theories just have no place here. This fan theory is definately not widely adopted nor is it an unavoidably logical assumption, as evidenced by the fact that no one else here had ever heard of it or believes there&#039;s any real evidence to support it asside from the wildly ephemeral and circumstantial. Keep it in your personal fannon sure, but recognize it for what it is and let it go already.&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;m taking it persnally, because of how it was treated on here: like it was some wild babbling of one fan trying to push his personal beliefs on a wiki, and that there&#039;s no possible way it could&#039;ve happened. Why do you think all my edits of it say that it was &#039;&#039;possible&#039;&#039; that it could&#039;ve happened, instaed of that it &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039;? Not saying that they aren&#039;t right, and it &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; just wild speculation (in fact, I emailed Mainframe to ask them about it directly just to put this debate to rest), but the main point of contention I have here, is that the mods seem to be so biased in their belief that there&#039;s no way it could possibly even hint to be true, even after the evidence is laid out, that they won&#039;t hear it. I even asked them for their explanation for how BA&#039;s telekinesis spontaneously developed, if not from her mind link with Tarantulas, and they essentially said &amp;quot;Uhhhh, we can&#039;t, but it definitely did&amp;quot;. They mentioned Dinobot&#039;s healing factor and Cheetor&#039;s &amp;quot;spider-sense&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;new powers&amp;quot; like BA&#039;s telekinesis; Cheetor showed those same healing powers during Feral Scream, and the techspecs for the TM2 line itself (trust me, I used to own the entire line) establishes it as being &#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039; among TM2s, while Cheetor&#039;s been established to have somewhat-prophetic dreams earlier in the show (and, since Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about Waspinator moments before Cheetor shot him, it&#039;s likely it was more or less a &amp;quot;cool trick&amp;quot; to show off how the process changed him). The fact that all of the evidence is stacked against them, and they can&#039;t even come up with an adequate defense for their own pet theories, yet they act and pretty much demand that it&#039;s the only logical explanation is what&#039;s driving this personally to me, not my own theories being rejected. I understand that this is a wiki, and a wiki&#039;s for truth, which is why I haven&#039;t reposted the theory ever since I started posting on this discussion, but the mod&#039;s own theories have even less evidence to back it up than mine does, so what the hell?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 19:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Your evidence is &amp;quot;she was once controlled tele&#039;&#039;&#039;pathically&#039;&#039;&#039;, so that&#039;s the obvious reason why she&#039;s later a tele&#039;&#039;&#039;kenetic&#039;&#039;&#039;, despite all of the other TM2s gaining similar powers at the same time she gets telekenesis.&amp;quot;  Your evidence is crap.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::And since when did the other TM2&#039;s get telekinetic abilities? Or even anything similar to them? How in the hell can you relate Dinobot&#039;s spark healing to her Telekinesis? &#039;&#039;That&#039;&#039; is crap. And again, you haven&#039;t given me &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; explanation as to how Cheetor gained &#039;spider-sense&#039;, especially since the only hint that he used them was to knock Waspinator out from behind his back &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;after&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; Optimus warned him about it. So, let me get this straight: since the mind link was tele&#039;&#039;&#039;pathic&#039;&#039;&#039; and not tele&#039;&#039;&#039;kinetic&#039;&#039;&#039;, they can&#039;t possibly be related, even though they&#039;re both ESP-based powers &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; closely related in nearly all fiction that has them. Again, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;watch the show again&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, and you&#039;ll see that, besides the &#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039; spark healing, &#039;&#039;none&#039;&#039; of the TM2s besides BA gained any extra powers, just upgrades to what they had before. BA&#039;s telekinesis came right out of the blue, with no ties to her abilities before &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;other&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; than her link with Tarantulas, and you&#039;re saying they can&#039;t be related, since they&#039;re totally different things. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;I still haven&#039;t heard one explanation from any of you as to how she gained those powers, if that&#039;s the case.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; All I&#039;ve heard from you is &amp;quot;Uhhh, we have no explanation, but you&#039;re full of shit, because it didn&#039;t happen that way&amp;quot;. You can&#039;t even back up your own argument, and yet you&#039;re completely convinced that mine is total crap. You even admit that my evidence coincides with my theory, which is a lot more than your lack of evidence is doing for yours. So again, I have to wonder if you guys actually watch and pay attention to the media that&#039;s covered in this wiki site, or if you&#039;re just winging it, because you certainly don&#039;t sound like you have a leg to stand on.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Y&#039;know, that&#039;s not the only time Cheetor&#039;s &amp;quot;spidey-sense&amp;quot; kicks in. In &#039;&#039;[[Go With The Flow]]&#039;&#039;, while Megatron is busy aiming his cannon at the Maximal base, Cheetor&#039;s spark compartment pops open on it&#039;s own and his spark begins to glow, leading him to look down at it and go &amp;quot;Uh-oh.&amp;quot; Just felt like pointing that out. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:50, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::And Cheetor was shown dreaming of Starscream&#039;s return and his rescue by Rattrap at the beginning of The Web, both of which came true. Your point? It&#039;s been established that Cheetor had some kind of precognitive abilities in his dreams a long time prior to Feral Scream, so again, his &amp;quot;spider sense&amp;quot; isn&#039;t a new, spontaneous power, but more than likely an upgrade of that established one.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*1) Telepathy and and Telekenesis are two entirely different things. &lt;br /&gt;
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*2) Nothing in the show really hints at ANY sort of connection between her time with Tarrantulas and telekinetic powers. &lt;br /&gt;
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*3) Yes, they COULD be connected, but thats not the same things as having any reason to believe they are. It could just as easilly be something caused by her Transmetal II transformation. There&#039;s no real evidence in the show that ANYTHING caused it. It could be a power she ALWAYS had but just never used before for all we know. Heck, it could be a *Magnetic* power like Windcharger has, since there&#039;s good evidence of that existing in TFs before and since. And if it WAS magnetic rather than psychic that would destroy your whole argument, yes? No reason to think it&#039;s not.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*1) Telepathy and Telekinesis are two entirely different things, eh? They&#039;re both ESP powers, and by and large most fiction that gives their characters some kind of psychic powers often have one power as its main one and others as sub-powers; for instance, Jean Grey has primarily Telekinetic powers, but she&#039;s also known to have some telepathic powers as well, long before the concept of &amp;quot;secondary mutations&amp;quot; was developed; Professor X had both Telepathy and Astral Projection, different powers but still ESP. Sage was a Cyberpath, but also could &amp;quot;jump-start&amp;quot; mutant genes with her mind, mutually exclusive aside from being ESP-based powers. Phoebe Halliwell originally had precognition, but soon developed empathy, as well, and those are totally unrelated-yet-still-psychic powers. See what I mean? You can have one transition into another, or develop simultaneously, so just because telepathy and telekinesis are &#039;totally different&#039;, they&#039;re still psychic powers and it&#039;s not that much of a stretch for one to develop into the other (especially since they&#039;re both mental manipulation, just one is done with other people&#039;s minds while the other is done with something more physical).&lt;br /&gt;
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*2) That may be true, but then again, her use of telekinesis in Master Blaster was just so sudden and so unexplained that there&#039;s nothing really definitive to connect it to. Sill, it&#039;s a psychic power, and she was stuck in a psychic connection with Tarantulas for the first four episodes of season 2, which was not only forced on her &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;by Tarantulas downloading himself into her mind, which needed a specialized machine to get him out and into his real body&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, but also was forced to be broken by a suicide attempt &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;that fed back on the link and would&#039;ve killed them both had it not been broken&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, it makes the most sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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*3.) You&#039;re right; it could&#039;ve been magnetic and not true telekinesis. But again, &#039;&#039;nothing&#039;&#039; about BA before then showed that she had some kind of magnetic powers; she had her webs and grappling hook, but she&#039;s shown to use those after her upgrade to TM2, anyway, so you can rule those out as influences on her new power. And again, aside from the spark-healing (which &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;both&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; Dinobot and Cheetor where shown to have, and which the story behind the TM2 line establishes is &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; for TM2s), all of the abilities that they show have been upgrades of abilities that they already had; Cheetor&#039;s prophetic dreams from Season 1 could&#039;ve easily been upgraded to his &#039;spider-sense&#039; in Season 3 (especially since they&#039;re a lot closer to functionality), and the original Dinobot could fire lasers from his eyes, which the clone could do, as well. Cheetor could &#039;run&#039; in the air at Mach 2; he gained the ability to fly in his last body, and he&#039;s always been naturally fast. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;No new, spontaneous powers were developed between either of them, unlike BA.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; So, again, a wizard did it isn&#039;t flying with me.&lt;br /&gt;
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*4) There&#039;s a lot more basis in the theory than saying &amp;quot;Uhhh, it just happened&amp;quot;, so while it &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; still fanon, it&#039;s not mere speculation.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:55, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;I question the placement of the BW Manga between the US BW and BM material.  We have been aligning most entries according to continuity, then series.  (See [[Hot Shot (UT)]], for example.  Cartoon:Armada, Energon, Cybertron; then Comic:Armada, Energon.)  That way, the summaries of stories flow logically and chronologically. I would probably prefer to move the BW Manga section after Universe.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed and done.  Why is Legends seperate?  Is it for the Armadqa tale?  is she even IN The Armada tale?  Or are was counting Furman&#039;s contribution as a seperate continuity?&lt;br /&gt;
In EITHER case, the banner &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; is an inaccurate container-continuity for the tales it contains, becase a character might appear in SEVERAL Legends tales, in multiple continuities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of Legends, I&#039;d say put the story/stories they appear in&#039;s title in italics as a header above the descriptive paragraph. - [[User: M Sipher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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So I&#039;m looking at the decomposing corpse of TFPulp. http://web.archive.org/web/20041019195546/www.tfpulp.com/archive/seiyuu/seiyuu.html She&#039;s all the way down at the bottom.  Says Black Widow&#039;s voice actress was &amp;quot;Ryoka Yuzuki aka Kanori Kadomatsu aka Ayumi Nagashii&amp;quot;.  Ryoka Yuzuki would appear to be her real name.  Is the one listed, Iwata, another alias? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia&#039;s Telekinesis and it&#039;s connection to Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m seriously getting tired of being accused of vandalism whenever I post that BA&#039;s TM2 telekinesis is likely a product of her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded. I&#039;ve been told repeatedly that it&#039;s an &#039;unsubstantiated rumor&#039;, but I&#039;ve seen similar theories about multiple entries in this site that have far less evidence to back them up than this has.&lt;br /&gt;
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While it&#039;s not stated directly, the evidence in-show obviously sets up the mind link as the source of the telekinesis: first, the link was stated as &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; in nature, not electronic or otherwise artificial, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any transmissions being made when the link was being used. It was also very powerful, and worked both ways; not only was Tarantulas able to speak through BA with it &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; cause her mental pain, but she also acquired a lot of information from his memories, information that she retained after the link was severed. Plus, when BA threatened to kill herself via energon radiation if the link wasn&#039;t terminated, her anguish was visibly shared through the link by Tarantulas, and even he noted that, if BA &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; terminate herself, the link would&#039;ve ensured his death, as well. There&#039;s also the debatable scene where Tarantulas forces himself inside BA&#039;s head after he&#039;s burned by Inferno, and had to download himself into his new TM body &#039;&#039;from BA&#039;s noggin&#039;&#039;, which could meaning that the link was established by his &#039;&#039;literally inhabiting her mind&#039;&#039;. Oh, and besides mutant spark-aided healing, I don&#039;t recall the show &#039;&#039;ever&#039;&#039; stating that the TM2 process granted a Transformer brand new abilities that they didn&#039;t have before, just upgrades to what they already had, meaning that the potential for BA&#039;s telekinesis had to already be there to begin with, and since BA was never even hinted at having the required mental faculties for psychokinesis, even before the mind-link, where else &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; she get it from?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, it&#039;s a theory, but it&#039;s a theory blatantly supported by the cartoon. Her eyes even glow the same color as when Tarantulas gained control of her during the link when she levitated the girder to dispatch Rampage, for crying out loud. If that doesn&#039;t solidify the &amp;quot;spider mindmeld alien upgrade&amp;quot; theory, then I dunno what does.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In no way is either telepathy or telekinesis a &amp;quot;powered up&amp;quot; version of the other.  They are totally unrelated abilities aside from both being brain things.  Precognition, clairvoyance, astral projection, etc., are also &amp;quot;psychic&amp;quot; brain things, but that doesn&#039;t mean they are related.  Honestly, until Derik posted to my talk page about it saying, &amp;quot;they are both psychic abilities&amp;quot;, I seriously had no idea why you would think they were connected.  There are *tons* of types of psychic ability.  All of the evidence you cite, other than the eye glow thing which might have something to it, is merely &#039;&#039;consistent with&#039;&#039; your theory; it doesn&#039;t &#039;&#039;support&#039;&#039; you.  All the same evidence is also consistent with her telekinesis having nothing to do with Tarantulas.&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he said. And, as far as eye-glow is concerned, I&#039;m WAY more inclined to chalk it up to &amp;quot;Mainframe knew how to do that effect&amp;quot; than them making some kind of conscious reference to an unrelated event practically a full season back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Which other Transformers were confirmed to have actual psychic abilities, especially in Beast Wars? Besides, the link not only allowed BA and Tarantulas to communicate telepathically, but it also allowed Tarantulas to TAKE OVER HER BODY and INFLICT PAIN ON HER PSYCHICALLY, neither of which are generally accepted as being strictly telepathic abilities. Plus, read any kind of fiction that includes psychic abilities, and you&#039;ll almost always see a telepath manifest telekinetic abilities of some form. It also makes far more sense than say...Primacron&#039;s Oracle assistant being THE Oracle of Beast Machines (which also has no evidence to support it, yet it&#039;s allowed in Primacron Oracle&#039;s article). Essentailly, all you&#039;re saying is Mainframe is too stupid to make self references of past subplots, which is interesting considering how they touched up on Tigatron and Airazor&#039;s abduction, the fate of Sentinel, BA&#039;s shell program, Tarantulas&#039; hatred for the Vok...need I go on? Honestly, do you guys even watch the media whose wikis you monitor?&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Dude, I&#039;ve seen Beast Wars more times than I can count.  I have it memorized.  No where was it remotely implied that Blackarachnia got telekinesis powers from having a mind-link with somebody else.  Those aren&#039;t even the same power!  Telekinetics and telepaths are two completely different things!  And please stop insulting people.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Didn&#039;t one of the BotCon comics retcon the Oracle as being the assistant? I&#039;m not sure of that. And typically, when we have fannon in an article, it is 1. in the trivia section, 2, is in it&#039;s own paragraph seperate from the cannon, and 3. is clearly stated as such. And even then, it&#039;s only included if it was notable in the fandom (aka, who was Dion built into, is Brawn dead or alive, who became Cyclonus, Scourge, and the Sweeps, etc. This is the only long discussion on this topic I&#039;ve seen, ans you seem to be the only one who insists the two abilities are linked. Yes, you can say the fiction doesn&#039;t contridict it, but you can claim the same thing about Alpha Trion being a pimp before the rebellion against the Quintessons. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::BotCon comics never mentioned the G1 Oracle, I&#039;m pretty sure.  (Its name is known only from the script, so I wouldn&#039;t expect that sort of thing to show up.)  Regardless, I&#039;ve removed that bit from that page&#039;s trivia section.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2? As I said before, there&#039;s nothing stated in the show that says that the process gives the Transformer new powers besides the spark-healing. In fact, beyond Blackarachnia, NONE of the TM2s in the show gained new abilities from the driver. Telekinesis is different from telepathy, fine, but as I explained, the mind link between BA and Tarantulas was NOT just merely telepathy; if it was, he shouldn&#039;t have been able to control her body, nor inflict pain on her. In fact, the moment he was restored to his original body, BA tried to shoot him, and what does he do? Force her mentally to turn her gun to her own head. That&#039;s not telepathy, now is it? It&#039;s just assumed to me &#039;mere&#039; telepathy, because that&#039;s for the most part what Tarantulas used it for: seeing and knowing whatever BA saw and knew.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 00:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::&amp;quot;What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2?&amp;quot;  Uh, yeah.  I think that&#039;s obvious.  That was sort of the deal.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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66.233.183.59, you seem to be taking this all really personally.  We are not saying that &amp;quot;Mainframe is too stupid&amp;quot; to have referenced a past episode.  We are saying that in this particular case we don&#039;t think they were doing so.&lt;br /&gt;
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Controlling somebody&#039;s body and causing them to feel pain are MOST DEFINITELY applications of telepathy as portrayed in many works of fiction.  Both come about through manipulating the victom&#039;s mind, not by applying force to the limbs.  The only story I can think of offhand where telekinesis is considered to be something &amp;quot;beyond&amp;quot; but connected to telepathy is &#039;&#039;Babylon 5&#039;&#039;, and even in that series, telepaths with no teke inflicted pain and mind-control on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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You are right, there is no &amp;quot;other&amp;quot; explanation for where her powers came from. There is also no explanation for where the Transmetal Driver came from in the first place, how it brought her back from the dead, or why it made Cheetor go Jeckyll/Hyde.  This doesn&#039;t mean that just because some idea some people discussed *can* fit the canon that it is *supported* by the canon.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::After none of the other TM2s in the show gained any such spontaneous abilities?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::...but they did!  I&#039;m starting to wonder who really hasn&#039;t watched the show, here.  Dinobot had magical healing factor.  Cheetor had Spidey-sense.  And they all used the same crazy glow-effect tentacles.  TM2s had special mutant powers.  It was their deal, as I said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Unlikely. I&#039;m sorry, but &amp;quot;a wizard did it&amp;quot; just isn&#039;t flying with me, especially considering how much of a freak accident it would have to be in order for it to work. Did Cheetor gain the ability to teleport, for instance, or Dinobot the power to slow time? No, they did not; aside from the spark-healing (which seems to be pretty universal for all Transmetal 2&#039;s), any powers they gained were mere upgrades to whatever they had before; Cheetor could run faster and &#039;air dash&#039; like his original Transmetal form, while DInobot had a laser-firing eyepiece and razor-sharp melee weapons. If you consider them TM2&#039;s, only Tigerhawk gained any &#039;new&#039; powers, due to direct Vok influence and not the modified driver; Megatron gained the ability to fly and shoot things from his gun/head hand. Again, nothing new there. So why is it that only Blackarachnia gained a power that&#039;s not only completely new, but according to you not even remotely related to her in the least? The psychic link theory is more feasible to me, because of the consistency it has with all of the other showings of what a TM2 gains in the show: greatly heightened versions of their existing powers. You can argue that the process was unfinished, but then again, so was Cheetor&#039;s, and he didn&#039;t gain any nifty new power; you can say that she was technically dead when the process finished, but Dinobot was a cloned blank protoform with half a spark that&#039;s not even his own, Cheetor woas on death&#039;s doorstep himself, and Megatron was thrown into a lava bath and left for dead. Again, none of them gained any new powers. The only thing that logically fits here is her psychic link with Tarantulas, and considering how much he screwed with her mind, how can you say there was no trace of the link left in her head after it was severed?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 01:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::: I know I haven&#039;t seen BW in awhile, but I&#039;m pretty sure BA never had any magical healing factor (not as sure about Cheetor, though). Plus, it was never even implied that BA had telepathy. All that was from the mind link, which was entirely Tarantulas. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: First, Walky, both Cheetor and Dinobot had glow-effect tentacle healing powers; Dinobot was seen using it more actively and often than Cheetor, but Cheetor did use them to heal himself fully (if unknowingly) after he was almost slagged by his dip in the Transmetal driver. And the &#039;spidey-sense&#039; you&#039;re talking about? If you&#039;re thinking of him blasting Waspinator behind his back without even looking, that was just a &#039;cool trick&#039; (Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about the Pred a few seconds before he blasted him), and even if it wasn&#039;t, it&#039;s been shown in the first and possibly second season that Cheetor&#039;s dreams sometimes foretell future events, so his &#039;spidey-sense&#039; could just be an upgraded version of that power.&lt;br /&gt;
Second, BA never showed any healing powers before or after her transformation to TM2, but then again, she&#039;s rarely damaged to the point where she&#039;d need them, so she didn&#039;t really have a chance to use them. As for the link being all Tarantulas, it&#039;s true he initiated it, but again, it&#039;s been established that the link went both ways; BA mentioned in Other Visits that she could get inside Tarantulas&#039; head while the link was established, and gleaned a lot of information about the Tripredacus agent as a result, and both of them realized just how devastating BA&#039;s death would be to Tarantulas through the link in Tangled Web. Not only did Tarantulas feel BA&#039;s pain from her energon exposure through the link, but he also mentioned that if BA succeeded in committing suicide, it would feedback through the link and wipe him out, as well, hence BA&#039;s pleas to &amp;quot;save them both&amp;quot; by terminating the link. So, while Tarantulas created the link in the first place, it wasn&#039;t entirely one-sided, and no amount of mental torture would not leave any trace in the tortured party&#039;s mind.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 02:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:All of this is irrelevant to the fact that you&#039;re trying to push your own theories that aren&#039;t in the actual canon. If you see other cases of &amp;quot;fanon&amp;quot; in this wikia, then &#039;&#039;fix them&#039;&#039;. That fanon exists does not mean we should add &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; fanon. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 23:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excuse me? Who says they&#039;re &#039;&#039;my&#039;&#039; theories? As I said before, there was a discussion about this very same thing on Ben Yee&#039;s Transformers forum a while back (since deleted, unfortunately), and most people on there agreed with the theory. In fact, the Tarantulas/BA discussions on there hint constantly at their mind link and its relationship to her TM2 telekinesis, so this is &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; just my own personal pet belief. Fanon it may be, but I&#039;m completely shocked and disgusted that all of you are acting like I&#039;m the only one who&#039;s &amp;quot;dumb enough&amp;quot; to believe it, and it&#039;s &amp;quot;obvious&amp;quot; to anyone else that it&#039;s &#039;&#039;not true&#039;&#039;. That, personally, smacks of just as much personal bias as you seem to believe my posting this theory to have.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 07:21, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think you&#039;re taking this WAY too personally. When it comes to Fannon the simple answer is it really doesn&#039;t belong here. If it&#039;s something widely and universally adopted it may get a mention but otherwise fan theories just have no place here. This fan theory is definately not widely adopted nor is it an unavoidably logical assumption, as evidenced by the fact that no one else here had ever heard of it or believes there&#039;s any real evidence to support it asside from the wildly ephemeral and circumstantial. Keep it in your personal fannon sure, but recognize it for what it is and let it go already.&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;m taking it persnally, because of how it was treated on here: like it was some wild babbling of one fan trying to push his personal beliefs on a wiki, and that there&#039;s no possible way it could&#039;ve happened. Why do you think all my edits of it say that it was &#039;&#039;possible&#039;&#039; that it could&#039;ve happened, instaed of that it &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039;? Not saying that they aren&#039;t right, and it &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; just wild speculation (in fact, I emailed Mainframe to ask them about it directly just to put this debate to rest), but the main point of contention I have here, is that the mods seem to be so biased in their belief that there&#039;s no way it could possibly even hint to be true, even after the evidence is laid out, that they won&#039;t hear it. I even asked them for their explanation for how BA&#039;s telekinesis spontaneously developed, if not from her mind link with Tarantulas, and they essentially said &amp;quot;Uhhhh, we can&#039;t, but it definitely did&amp;quot;. They mentioned Dinobot&#039;s healing factor and Cheetor&#039;s &amp;quot;spider-sense&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;new powers&amp;quot; like BA&#039;s telekinesis; Cheetor showed those same healing powers during Feral Scream, and the techspecs for the TM2 line itself (trust me, I used to own the entire line) establishes it as being &#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039; among TM2s, while Cheetor&#039;s been established to have somewhat-prophetic dreams earlier in the show (and, since Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about Waspinator moments before Cheetor shot him, it&#039;s likely it was more or less a &amp;quot;cool trick&amp;quot; to show off how the process changed him). The fact that all of the evidence is stacked against them, and they can&#039;t even come up with an adequate defense for their own pet theories, yet they act and pretty much demand that it&#039;s the only logical explanation is what&#039;s driving this personally to me, not my own theories being rejected. I understand that this is a wiki, and a wiki&#039;s for truth, which is why I haven&#039;t reposted the theory ever since I started posting on this discussion, but the mod&#039;s own theories have even less evidence to back it up than mine does, so what the hell?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 19:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Your evidence is &amp;quot;she was once controlled tele&#039;&#039;&#039;pathically&#039;&#039;&#039;, so that&#039;s the obvious reason why she&#039;s later a tele&#039;&#039;&#039;kenetic&#039;&#039;&#039;, despite all of the other TM2s gaining similar powers at the same time she gets telekenesis.&amp;quot;  Your evidence is crap.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::And since when did the other TM2&#039;s get telekinetic abilities? Or even anything similar to them? How in the hell can you relate Dinobot&#039;s spark healing to her Telekinesis? &#039;&#039;That&#039;&#039; is crap. And again, you haven&#039;t given me &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; explanation as to how Cheetor gained &#039;spider-sense&#039;, especially since the only hint that he used them was to knock Waspinator out from behind his back &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;after&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; Optimus warned him about it. So, let me get this straight: since the mind link was tele&#039;&#039;&#039;pathic&#039;&#039;&#039; and not tele&#039;&#039;&#039;kinetic&#039;&#039;&#039;, they can&#039;t possibly be related, even though they&#039;re both ESP-based powers &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; closely related in nearly all fiction that has them. Again, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;watch the show again&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, and you&#039;ll see that, besides the &#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039; spark healing, &#039;&#039;none&#039;&#039; of the TM2s besides BA gained any extra powers, just upgrades to what they had before. BA&#039;s telekinesis came right out of the blue, with no ties to her abilities before &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;other&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; than her link with Tarantulas, and you&#039;re saying they can&#039;t be related, since they&#039;re totally different things. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;I still haven&#039;t heard one explanation from any of you as to how she gained those powers, if that&#039;s the case.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; All I&#039;ve heard from you is &amp;quot;Uhhh, we have no explanation, but you&#039;re full of shit, because it didn&#039;t happen that way&amp;quot;. You can&#039;t even back up your own argument, and yet you&#039;re completely convinced that mine is total crap. You even admit that my evidence coincides with my theory, which is a lot more than your lack of evidence is doing for yours. So again, I have to wonder if you guys actually watch and pay attention to the media that&#039;s covered in this wiki site, or if you&#039;re just winging it, because you certainly don&#039;t sound like you have a leg to stand on.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Y&#039;know, that&#039;s not the only time Cheetor&#039;s &amp;quot;spidey-sense&amp;quot; kicks in. In &#039;&#039;[[Go With The Flow]]&#039;&#039;, while Megatron is busy aiming his cannon at the Maximal base, Cheetor&#039;s spark compartment pops open on it&#039;s own and his spark begins to glow, leading him to look down at it and go &amp;quot;Uh-oh.&amp;quot; Just felt like pointing that out. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:50, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::And Cheetor was shown dreaming of Starscream&#039;s return and his rescue by Rattrap at the beginning of The Web, both of which came true. Your point? It&#039;s been established that Cheetor had some kind of precognitive abilities in his dreams a long time prior to Feral Scream, so again, his &amp;quot;spider sense&amp;quot; isn&#039;t a new, spontaneous power, but more than likely an upgrade of that established one.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;I question the placement of the BW Manga between the US BW and BM material.  We have been aligning most entries according to continuity, then series.  (See [[Hot Shot (UT)]], for example.  Cartoon:Armada, Energon, Cybertron; then Comic:Armada, Energon.)  That way, the summaries of stories flow logically and chronologically. I would probably prefer to move the BW Manga section after Universe.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed and done.  Why is Legends seperate?  Is it for the Armadqa tale?  is she even IN The Armada tale?  Or are was counting Furman&#039;s contribution as a seperate continuity?&lt;br /&gt;
In EITHER case, the banner &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; is an inaccurate container-continuity for the tales it contains, becase a character might appear in SEVERAL Legends tales, in multiple continuities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of Legends, I&#039;d say put the story/stories they appear in&#039;s title in italics as a header above the descriptive paragraph. - [[User: M Sipher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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So I&#039;m looking at the decomposing corpse of TFPulp. http://web.archive.org/web/20041019195546/www.tfpulp.com/archive/seiyuu/seiyuu.html She&#039;s all the way down at the bottom.  Says Black Widow&#039;s voice actress was &amp;quot;Ryoka Yuzuki aka Kanori Kadomatsu aka Ayumi Nagashii&amp;quot;.  Ryoka Yuzuki would appear to be her real name.  Is the one listed, Iwata, another alias? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia&#039;s Telekinesis and it&#039;s connection to Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m seriously getting tired of being accused of vandalism whenever I post that BA&#039;s TM2 telekinesis is likely a product of her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded. I&#039;ve been told repeatedly that it&#039;s an &#039;unsubstantiated rumor&#039;, but I&#039;ve seen similar theories about multiple entries in this site that have far less evidence to back them up than this has.&lt;br /&gt;
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While it&#039;s not stated directly, the evidence in-show obviously sets up the mind link as the source of the telekinesis: first, the link was stated as &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; in nature, not electronic or otherwise artificial, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any transmissions being made when the link was being used. It was also very powerful, and worked both ways; not only was Tarantulas able to speak through BA with it &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; cause her mental pain, but she also acquired a lot of information from his memories, information that she retained after the link was severed. Plus, when BA threatened to kill herself via energon radiation if the link wasn&#039;t terminated, her anguish was visibly shared through the link by Tarantulas, and even he noted that, if BA &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; terminate herself, the link would&#039;ve ensured his death, as well. There&#039;s also the debatable scene where Tarantulas forces himself inside BA&#039;s head after he&#039;s burned by Inferno, and had to download himself into his new TM body &#039;&#039;from BA&#039;s noggin&#039;&#039;, which could meaning that the link was established by his &#039;&#039;literally inhabiting her mind&#039;&#039;. Oh, and besides mutant spark-aided healing, I don&#039;t recall the show &#039;&#039;ever&#039;&#039; stating that the TM2 process granted a Transformer brand new abilities that they didn&#039;t have before, just upgrades to what they already had, meaning that the potential for BA&#039;s telekinesis had to already be there to begin with, and since BA was never even hinted at having the required mental faculties for psychokinesis, even before the mind-link, where else &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; she get it from?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, it&#039;s a theory, but it&#039;s a theory blatantly supported by the cartoon. Her eyes even glow the same color as when Tarantulas gained control of her during the link when she levitated the girder to dispatch Rampage, for crying out loud. If that doesn&#039;t solidify the &amp;quot;spider mindmeld alien upgrade&amp;quot; theory, then I dunno what does.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In no way is either telepathy or telekinesis a &amp;quot;powered up&amp;quot; version of the other.  They are totally unrelated abilities aside from both being brain things.  Precognition, clairvoyance, astral projection, etc., are also &amp;quot;psychic&amp;quot; brain things, but that doesn&#039;t mean they are related.  Honestly, until Derik posted to my talk page about it saying, &amp;quot;they are both psychic abilities&amp;quot;, I seriously had no idea why you would think they were connected.  There are *tons* of types of psychic ability.  All of the evidence you cite, other than the eye glow thing which might have something to it, is merely &#039;&#039;consistent with&#039;&#039; your theory; it doesn&#039;t &#039;&#039;support&#039;&#039; you.  All the same evidence is also consistent with her telekinesis having nothing to do with Tarantulas.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Regarding eye-glow: Several characters over the course of the series had their eyes glow for various reasons.  I don&#039;t recall what colors were used for these various effects.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if unrelated instances of glowing eyes happened to use the same color from time to time, but admittedly I don&#039;t know that offhand.&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he said. And, as far as eye-glow is concerned, I&#039;m WAY more inclined to chalk it up to &amp;quot;Mainframe knew how to do that effect&amp;quot; than them making some kind of conscious reference to an unrelated event practically a full season back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Which other Transformers were confirmed to have actual psychic abilities, especially in Beast Wars? Besides, the link not only allowed BA and Tarantulas to communicate telepathically, but it also allowed Tarantulas to TAKE OVER HER BODY and INFLICT PAIN ON HER PSYCHICALLY, neither of which are generally accepted as being strictly telepathic abilities. Plus, read any kind of fiction that includes psychic abilities, and you&#039;ll almost always see a telepath manifest telekinetic abilities of some form. It also makes far more sense than say...Primacron&#039;s Oracle assistant being THE Oracle of Beast Machines (which also has no evidence to support it, yet it&#039;s allowed in Primacron Oracle&#039;s article). Essentailly, all you&#039;re saying is Mainframe is too stupid to make self references of past subplots, which is interesting considering how they touched up on Tigatron and Airazor&#039;s abduction, the fate of Sentinel, BA&#039;s shell program, Tarantulas&#039; hatred for the Vok...need I go on? Honestly, do you guys even watch the media whose wikis you monitor?&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Dude, I&#039;ve seen Beast Wars more times than I can count.  I have it memorized.  No where was it remotely implied that Blackarachnia got telekinesis powers from having a mind-link with somebody else.  Those aren&#039;t even the same power!  Telekinetics and telepaths are two completely different things!  And please stop insulting people.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Didn&#039;t one of the BotCon comics retcon the Oracle as being the assistant? I&#039;m not sure of that. And typically, when we have fannon in an article, it is 1. in the trivia section, 2, is in it&#039;s own paragraph seperate from the cannon, and 3. is clearly stated as such. And even then, it&#039;s only included if it was notable in the fandom (aka, who was Dion built into, is Brawn dead or alive, who became Cyclonus, Scourge, and the Sweeps, etc. This is the only long discussion on this topic I&#039;ve seen, ans you seem to be the only one who insists the two abilities are linked. Yes, you can say the fiction doesn&#039;t contridict it, but you can claim the same thing about Alpha Trion being a pimp before the rebellion against the Quintessons. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::BotCon comics never mentioned the G1 Oracle, I&#039;m pretty sure.  (Its name is known only from the script, so I wouldn&#039;t expect that sort of thing to show up.)  Regardless, I&#039;ve removed that bit from that page&#039;s trivia section.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2? As I said before, there&#039;s nothing stated in the show that says that the process gives the Transformer new powers besides the spark-healing. In fact, beyond Blackarachnia, NONE of the TM2s in the show gained new abilities from the driver. Telekinesis is different from telepathy, fine, but as I explained, the mind link between BA and Tarantulas was NOT just merely telepathy; if it was, he shouldn&#039;t have been able to control her body, nor inflict pain on her. In fact, the moment he was restored to his original body, BA tried to shoot him, and what does he do? Force her mentally to turn her gun to her own head. That&#039;s not telepathy, now is it? It&#039;s just assumed to me &#039;mere&#039; telepathy, because that&#039;s for the most part what Tarantulas used it for: seeing and knowing whatever BA saw and knew.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 00:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::&amp;quot;What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2?&amp;quot;  Uh, yeah.  I think that&#039;s obvious.  That was sort of the deal.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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66.233.183.59, you seem to be taking this all really personally.  We are not saying that &amp;quot;Mainframe is too stupid&amp;quot; to have referenced a past episode.  We are saying that in this particular case we don&#039;t think they were doing so.&lt;br /&gt;
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Controlling somebody&#039;s body and causing them to feel pain are MOST DEFINITELY applications of telepathy as portrayed in many works of fiction.  Both come about through manipulating the victom&#039;s mind, not by applying force to the limbs.  The only story I can think of offhand where telekinesis is considered to be something &amp;quot;beyond&amp;quot; but connected to telepathy is &#039;&#039;Babylon 5&#039;&#039;, and even in that series, telepaths with no teke inflicted pain and mind-control on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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You are right, there is no &amp;quot;other&amp;quot; explanation for where her powers came from. There is also no explanation for where the Transmetal Driver came from in the first place, how it brought her back from the dead, or why it made Cheetor go Jeckyll/Hyde.  This doesn&#039;t mean that just because some idea some people discussed *can* fit the canon that it is *supported* by the canon.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::After none of the other TM2s in the show gained any such spontaneous abilities?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::...but they did!  I&#039;m starting to wonder who really hasn&#039;t watched the show, here.  Dinobot had magical healing factor.  Cheetor had Spidey-sense.  And they all used the same crazy glow-effect tentacles.  TM2s had special mutant powers.  It was their deal, as I said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Unlikely. I&#039;m sorry, but &amp;quot;a wizard did it&amp;quot; just isn&#039;t flying with me, especially considering how much of a freak accident it would have to be in order for it to work. Did Cheetor gain the ability to teleport, for instance, or Dinobot the power to slow time? No, they did not; aside from the spark-healing (which seems to be pretty universal for all Transmetal 2&#039;s), any powers they gained were mere upgrades to whatever they had before; Cheetor could run faster and &#039;air dash&#039; like his original Transmetal form, while DInobot had a laser-firing eyepiece and razor-sharp melee weapons. If you consider them TM2&#039;s, only Tigerhawk gained any &#039;new&#039; powers, due to direct Vok influence and not the modified driver; Megatron gained the ability to fly and shoot things from his gun/head hand. Again, nothing new there. So why is it that only Blackarachnia gained a power that&#039;s not only completely new, but according to you not even remotely related to her in the least? The psychic link theory is more feasible to me, because of the consistency it has with all of the other showings of what a TM2 gains in the show: greatly heightened versions of their existing powers. You can argue that the process was unfinished, but then again, so was Cheetor&#039;s, and he didn&#039;t gain any nifty new power; you can say that she was technically dead when the process finished, but Dinobot was a cloned blank protoform with half a spark that&#039;s not even his own, Cheetor woas on death&#039;s doorstep himself, and Megatron was thrown into a lava bath and left for dead. Again, none of them gained any new powers. The only thing that logically fits here is her psychic link with Tarantulas, and considering how much he screwed with her mind, how can you say there was no trace of the link left in her head after it was severed?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 01:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::: I know I haven&#039;t seen BW in awhile, but I&#039;m pretty sure BA never had any magical healing factor (not as sure about Cheetor, though). Plus, it was never even implied that BA had telepathy. All that was from the mind link, which was entirely Tarantulas. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: First, Walky, both Cheetor and Dinobot had glow-effect tentacle healing powers; Dinobot was seen using it more actively and often than Cheetor, but Cheetor did use them to heal himself fully (if unknowingly) after he was almost slagged by his dip in the Transmetal driver. And the &#039;spidey-sense&#039; you&#039;re talking about? If you&#039;re thinking of him blasting Waspinator behind his back without even looking, that was just a &#039;cool trick&#039; (Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about the Pred a few seconds before he blasted him), and even if it wasn&#039;t, it&#039;s been shown in the first and possibly second season that Cheetor&#039;s dreams sometimes foretell future events, so his &#039;spidey-sense&#039; could just be an upgraded version of that power.&lt;br /&gt;
Second, BA never showed any healing powers before or after her transformation to TM2, but then again, she&#039;s rarely damaged to the point where she&#039;d need them, so she didn&#039;t really have a chance to use them. As for the link being all Tarantulas, it&#039;s true he initiated it, but again, it&#039;s been established that the link went both ways; BA mentioned in Other Visits that she could get inside Tarantulas&#039; head while the link was established, and gleaned a lot of information about the Tripredacus agent as a result, and both of them realized just how devastating BA&#039;s death would be to Tarantulas through the link in Tangled Web. Not only did Tarantulas feel BA&#039;s pain from her energon exposure through the link, but he also mentioned that if BA succeeded in committing suicide, it would feedback through the link and wipe him out, as well, hence BA&#039;s pleas to &amp;quot;save them both&amp;quot; by terminating the link. So, while Tarantulas created the link in the first place, it wasn&#039;t entirely one-sided, and no amount of mental torture would not leave any trace in the tortured party&#039;s mind.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 02:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:All of this is irrelevant to the fact that you&#039;re trying to push your own theories that aren&#039;t in the actual canon. If you see other cases of &amp;quot;fanon&amp;quot; in this wikia, then &#039;&#039;fix them&#039;&#039;. That fanon exists does not mean we should add &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; fanon. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 23:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excuse me? Who says they&#039;re &#039;&#039;my&#039;&#039; theories? As I said before, there was a discussion about this very same thing on Ben Yee&#039;s Transformers forum a while back (since deleted, unfortunately), and most people on there agreed with the theory. In fact, the Tarantulas/BA discussions on there hint constantly at their mind link and its relationship to her TM2 telekinesis, so this is &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; just my own personal pet belief. Fanon it may be, but I&#039;m completely shocked and disgusted that all of you are acting like I&#039;m the only one who&#039;s &amp;quot;dumb enough&amp;quot; to believe it, and it&#039;s &amp;quot;obvious&amp;quot; to anyone else that it&#039;s &#039;&#039;not true&#039;&#039;. That, personally, smacks of just as much personal bias as you seem to believe my posting this theory to have.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 07:21, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think you&#039;re taking this WAY too personally. When it comes to Fannon the simple answer is it really doesn&#039;t belong here. If it&#039;s something widely and universally adopted it may get a mention but otherwise fan theories just have no place here. This fan theory is definately not widely adopted nor is it an unavoidably logical assumption, as evidenced by the fact that no one else here had ever heard of it or believes there&#039;s any real evidence to support it asside from the wildly ephemeral and circumstantial. Keep it in your personal fannon sure, but recognize it for what it is and let it go already.&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;m taking it persnally, because of how it was treated on here: like it was some wild babbling of one fan trying to push his personal beliefs on a wiki, and that there&#039;s no possible way it could&#039;ve happened. Why do you think all my edits of it say that it was &#039;&#039;possible&#039;&#039; that it could&#039;ve happened, instaed of that it &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039;? Not saying that they aren&#039;t right, and it &#039;&#039;is&#039; &#039;just wild speculation (in fact, I emailed Mainframe to ask them about it directly just to put this debate to rest), but the main point of contention I have here, is that the mods seem to be so biased in their belief that there&#039;s no way it could possibly even hint to be true, even after the evidence is laid out, that they won&#039;t hear it. I even asked them for their explanation for how BA&#039;s telekinesis spontaneously developed, if not from her mind link with Tarantulas, and they essentially said &amp;quot;Uhhhh, we can&#039;t, but it definitely did&amp;quot;. They mentioned Dinobot&#039;s healing factor and Cheetor&#039;s &amp;quot;spider-sense&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;new powers&amp;quot; like BA&#039;s telekinesis; Cheetor showed those same healing powers during Feral Scream, and the techspecs for the TM2 line itself (trust me, I used to own the entire line) establishes it as being &#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039; among TM2s, while Cheetor&#039;s been established to have somewhat-prophetic dreams earlier in the show (and, since Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about Waspinator moments before Cheetor shot him, it&#039;s likely it was more or less a &amp;quot;cool trick&amp;quot; to show off how the process changed him). The fact that all of the evidence is stacked against them, and they can&#039;t even come up with an adequate defense for their own pet theories, yet they act and pretty much demand that it&#039;s the only logical explanation is what&#039;s driving this personally to me, not my own theories being rejected. I understand that this is a wiki, and a wiki&#039;s for truth, which is why I haven&#039;t reposted the theory ever since I started posting on this discussion, but the mod&#039;s own theories have even less evidence to back it up than mine does, so what the hell?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 19:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Your evidence is &amp;quot;she was once controlled tele&#039;&#039;&#039;pathically&#039;&#039;&#039;, so that&#039;s the obvious reason why she&#039;s later a tele&#039;&#039;&#039;kenetic&#039;&#039;&#039;, despite all of the other TM2s gaining similar powers at the same time she gets telekenesis.&amp;quot;  Your evidence is crap.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::And since when did the other TM2&#039;s get telekinetic abilities? Or even anything similar to them? How in the hell can you relate Dinobot&#039;s spark healing to her Telekinesis? &#039;&#039;That&#039;&#039; is crap. And again, you haven&#039;t given me &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; explanation as to how Cheetor gained &#039;spider-sense&#039;, especially since the only hint that he used them was to knock Waspinator out from behind his back &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;after&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; Optimus warned him about it. So, let me get this straight: since the mind link was tele&#039;&#039;&#039;pathic&#039;&#039;&#039; and not tele&#039;&#039;&#039;kinetic&#039;&#039;&#039;, they can&#039;t possibly be related, even though they&#039;re both ESP-based powers &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; closely related in nearly all fiction that has them. Again, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;watch the show again&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, and you&#039;ll see that, besides the &#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039; spark healing, &#039;&#039;none&#039;&#039; of the TM2s besides BA gained any extra powers, just upgrades to what they had before. BA&#039;s telekinesis came right out of the blue, with no ties to her abilities before &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;other&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; than her link with Tarantulas, and you&#039;re saying they can&#039;t be related, since they&#039;re totally different things. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;I still haven&#039;t heard one explanation from any of you as to how she gained those powers, if that&#039;s the case.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; All I&#039;ve heard from you is &amp;quot;Uhhh, we have no explanation, but you&#039;re full of shit, because it didn&#039;t happen that way&amp;quot;. You can&#039;t even back up your own argument, and yet you&#039;re completely convinced that mine is total crap. You even admit that my evidence coincides with my theory, which is a lot more than your lack of evidence is doing for yours. So again, I have to wonder if you guys actually watch and pay attention to the media that&#039;s covered in this wiki site, or if you&#039;re just winging it, because you certainly don&#039;t sound like you have a leg to stand on.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Y&#039;know, that&#039;s not the only time Cheetor&#039;s &amp;quot;spidey-sense&amp;quot; kicks in. In &#039;&#039;[[Go With The Flow]]&#039;&#039;, while Megatron is busy aiming his cannon at the Maximal base, Cheetor&#039;s spark compartment pops open on it&#039;s own and his spark begins to glow, leading him to look down at it and go &amp;quot;Uh-oh.&amp;quot; Just felt like pointing that out. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:50, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::And Cheetor was shown dreaming of Starscream&#039;s return and his rescue by Rattrap at the beginning of The Web, both of which came true. Your point? It&#039;s been established that Cheetor had some kind of precognitive abilities in his dreams a long time prior to Feral Scream, so again, his &amp;quot;spider sense&amp;quot; isn&#039;t a new, spontaneous power, but more than likely an upgrade of that established one.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;I question the placement of the BW Manga between the US BW and BM material.  We have been aligning most entries according to continuity, then series.  (See [[Hot Shot (UT)]], for example.  Cartoon:Armada, Energon, Cybertron; then Comic:Armada, Energon.)  That way, the summaries of stories flow logically and chronologically. I would probably prefer to move the BW Manga section after Universe.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed and done.  Why is Legends seperate?  Is it for the Armadqa tale?  is she even IN The Armada tale?  Or are was counting Furman&#039;s contribution as a seperate continuity?&lt;br /&gt;
In EITHER case, the banner &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; is an inaccurate container-continuity for the tales it contains, becase a character might appear in SEVERAL Legends tales, in multiple continuities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of Legends, I&#039;d say put the story/stories they appear in&#039;s title in italics as a header above the descriptive paragraph. - [[User: M Sipher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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So I&#039;m looking at the decomposing corpse of TFPulp. http://web.archive.org/web/20041019195546/www.tfpulp.com/archive/seiyuu/seiyuu.html She&#039;s all the way down at the bottom.  Says Black Widow&#039;s voice actress was &amp;quot;Ryoka Yuzuki aka Kanori Kadomatsu aka Ayumi Nagashii&amp;quot;.  Ryoka Yuzuki would appear to be her real name.  Is the one listed, Iwata, another alias? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia&#039;s Telekinesis and it&#039;s connection to Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m seriously getting tired of being accused of vandalism whenever I post that BA&#039;s TM2 telekinesis is likely a product of her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded. I&#039;ve been told repeatedly that it&#039;s an &#039;unsubstantiated rumor&#039;, but I&#039;ve seen similar theories about multiple entries in this site that have far less evidence to back them up than this has.&lt;br /&gt;
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While it&#039;s not stated directly, the evidence in-show obviously sets up the mind link as the source of the telekinesis: first, the link was stated as &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; in nature, not electronic or otherwise artificial, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any transmissions being made when the link was being used. It was also very powerful, and worked both ways; not only was Tarantulas able to speak through BA with it &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; cause her mental pain, but she also acquired a lot of information from his memories, information that she retained after the link was severed. Plus, when BA threatened to kill herself via energon radiation if the link wasn&#039;t terminated, her anguish was visibly shared through the link by Tarantulas, and even he noted that, if BA &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; terminate herself, the link would&#039;ve ensured his death, as well. There&#039;s also the debatable scene where Tarantulas forces himself inside BA&#039;s head after he&#039;s burned by Inferno, and had to download himself into his new TM body &#039;&#039;from BA&#039;s noggin&#039;&#039;, which could meaning that the link was established by his &#039;&#039;literally inhabiting her mind&#039;&#039;. Oh, and besides mutant spark-aided healing, I don&#039;t recall the show &#039;&#039;ever&#039;&#039; stating that the TM2 process granted a Transformer brand new abilities that they didn&#039;t have before, just upgrades to what they already had, meaning that the potential for BA&#039;s telekinesis had to already be there to begin with, and since BA was never even hinted at having the required mental faculties for psychokinesis, even before the mind-link, where else &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; she get it from?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, it&#039;s a theory, but it&#039;s a theory blatantly supported by the cartoon. Her eyes even glow the same color as when Tarantulas gained control of her during the link when she levitated the girder to dispatch Rampage, for crying out loud. If that doesn&#039;t solidify the &amp;quot;spider mindmeld alien upgrade&amp;quot; theory, then I dunno what does.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In no way is either telepathy or telekinesis a &amp;quot;powered up&amp;quot; version of the other.  They are totally unrelated abilities aside from both being brain things.  Precognition, clairvoyance, astral projection, etc., are also &amp;quot;psychic&amp;quot; brain things, but that doesn&#039;t mean they are related.  Honestly, until Derik posted to my talk page about it saying, &amp;quot;they are both psychic abilities&amp;quot;, I seriously had no idea why you would think they were connected.  There are *tons* of types of psychic ability.  All of the evidence you cite, other than the eye glow thing which might have something to it, is merely &#039;&#039;consistent with&#039;&#039; your theory; it doesn&#039;t &#039;&#039;support&#039;&#039; you.  All the same evidence is also consistent with her telekinesis having nothing to do with Tarantulas.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Regarding eye-glow: Several characters over the course of the series had their eyes glow for various reasons.  I don&#039;t recall what colors were used for these various effects.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if unrelated instances of glowing eyes happened to use the same color from time to time, but admittedly I don&#039;t know that offhand.&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he said. And, as far as eye-glow is concerned, I&#039;m WAY more inclined to chalk it up to &amp;quot;Mainframe knew how to do that effect&amp;quot; than them making some kind of conscious reference to an unrelated event practically a full season back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Which other Transformers were confirmed to have actual psychic abilities, especially in Beast Wars? Besides, the link not only allowed BA and Tarantulas to communicate telepathically, but it also allowed Tarantulas to TAKE OVER HER BODY and INFLICT PAIN ON HER PSYCHICALLY, neither of which are generally accepted as being strictly telepathic abilities. Plus, read any kind of fiction that includes psychic abilities, and you&#039;ll almost always see a telepath manifest telekinetic abilities of some form. It also makes far more sense than say...Primacron&#039;s Oracle assistant being THE Oracle of Beast Machines (which also has no evidence to support it, yet it&#039;s allowed in Primacron Oracle&#039;s article). Essentailly, all you&#039;re saying is Mainframe is too stupid to make self references of past subplots, which is interesting considering how they touched up on Tigatron and Airazor&#039;s abduction, the fate of Sentinel, BA&#039;s shell program, Tarantulas&#039; hatred for the Vok...need I go on? Honestly, do you guys even watch the media whose wikis you monitor?&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Dude, I&#039;ve seen Beast Wars more times than I can count.  I have it memorized.  No where was it remotely implied that Blackarachnia got telekinesis powers from having a mind-link with somebody else.  Those aren&#039;t even the same power!  Telekinetics and telepaths are two completely different things!  And please stop insulting people.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Didn&#039;t one of the BotCon comics retcon the Oracle as being the assistant? I&#039;m not sure of that. And typically, when we have fannon in an article, it is 1. in the trivia section, 2, is in it&#039;s own paragraph seperate from the cannon, and 3. is clearly stated as such. And even then, it&#039;s only included if it was notable in the fandom (aka, who was Dion built into, is Brawn dead or alive, who became Cyclonus, Scourge, and the Sweeps, etc. This is the only long discussion on this topic I&#039;ve seen, ans you seem to be the only one who insists the two abilities are linked. Yes, you can say the fiction doesn&#039;t contridict it, but you can claim the same thing about Alpha Trion being a pimp before the rebellion against the Quintessons. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::BotCon comics never mentioned the G1 Oracle, I&#039;m pretty sure.  (Its name is known only from the script, so I wouldn&#039;t expect that sort of thing to show up.)  Regardless, I&#039;ve removed that bit from that page&#039;s trivia section.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2? As I said before, there&#039;s nothing stated in the show that says that the process gives the Transformer new powers besides the spark-healing. In fact, beyond Blackarachnia, NONE of the TM2s in the show gained new abilities from the driver. Telekinesis is different from telepathy, fine, but as I explained, the mind link between BA and Tarantulas was NOT just merely telepathy; if it was, he shouldn&#039;t have been able to control her body, nor inflict pain on her. In fact, the moment he was restored to his original body, BA tried to shoot him, and what does he do? Force her mentally to turn her gun to her own head. That&#039;s not telepathy, now is it? It&#039;s just assumed to me &#039;mere&#039; telepathy, because that&#039;s for the most part what Tarantulas used it for: seeing and knowing whatever BA saw and knew.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 00:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::&amp;quot;What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2?&amp;quot;  Uh, yeah.  I think that&#039;s obvious.  That was sort of the deal.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Controlling somebody&#039;s body and causing them to feel pain are MOST DEFINITELY applications of telepathy as portrayed in many works of fiction.  Both come about through manipulating the victom&#039;s mind, not by applying force to the limbs.  The only story I can think of offhand where telekinesis is considered to be something &amp;quot;beyond&amp;quot; but connected to telepathy is &#039;&#039;Babylon 5&#039;&#039;, and even in that series, telepaths with no teke inflicted pain and mind-control on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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You are right, there is no &amp;quot;other&amp;quot; explanation for where her powers came from. There is also no explanation for where the Transmetal Driver came from in the first place, how it brought her back from the dead, or why it made Cheetor go Jeckyll/Hyde.  This doesn&#039;t mean that just because some idea some people discussed *can* fit the canon that it is *supported* by the canon.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::After none of the other TM2s in the show gained any such spontaneous abilities?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::...but they did!  I&#039;m starting to wonder who really hasn&#039;t watched the show, here.  Dinobot had magical healing factor.  Cheetor had Spidey-sense.  And they all used the same crazy glow-effect tentacles.  TM2s had special mutant powers.  It was their deal, as I said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Unlikely. I&#039;m sorry, but &amp;quot;a wizard did it&amp;quot; just isn&#039;t flying with me, especially considering how much of a freak accident it would have to be in order for it to work. Did Cheetor gain the ability to teleport, for instance, or Dinobot the power to slow time? No, they did not; aside from the spark-healing (which seems to be pretty universal for all Transmetal 2&#039;s), any powers they gained were mere upgrades to whatever they had before; Cheetor could run faster and &#039;air dash&#039; like his original Transmetal form, while DInobot had a laser-firing eyepiece and razor-sharp melee weapons. If you consider them TM2&#039;s, only Tigerhawk gained any &#039;new&#039; powers, due to direct Vok influence and not the modified driver; Megatron gained the ability to fly and shoot things from his gun/head hand. Again, nothing new there. So why is it that only Blackarachnia gained a power that&#039;s not only completely new, but according to you not even remotely related to her in the least? The psychic link theory is more feasible to me, because of the consistency it has with all of the other showings of what a TM2 gains in the show: greatly heightened versions of their existing powers. You can argue that the process was unfinished, but then again, so was Cheetor&#039;s, and he didn&#039;t gain any nifty new power; you can say that she was technically dead when the process finished, but Dinobot was a cloned blank protoform with half a spark that&#039;s not even his own, Cheetor woas on death&#039;s doorstep himself, and Megatron was thrown into a lava bath and left for dead. Again, none of them gained any new powers. The only thing that logically fits here is her psychic link with Tarantulas, and considering how much he screwed with her mind, how can you say there was no trace of the link left in her head after it was severed?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 01:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::: I know I haven&#039;t seen BW in awhile, but I&#039;m pretty sure BA never had any magical healing factor (not as sure about Cheetor, though). Plus, it was never even implied that BA had telepathy. All that was from the mind link, which was entirely Tarantulas. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: First, Walky, both Cheetor and Dinobot had glow-effect tentacle healing powers; Dinobot was seen using it more actively and often than Cheetor, but Cheetor did use them to heal himself fully (if unknowingly) after he was almost slagged by his dip in the Transmetal driver. And the &#039;spidey-sense&#039; you&#039;re talking about? If you&#039;re thinking of him blasting Waspinator behind his back without even looking, that was just a &#039;cool trick&#039; (Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about the Pred a few seconds before he blasted him), and even if it wasn&#039;t, it&#039;s been shown in the first and possibly second season that Cheetor&#039;s dreams sometimes foretell future events, so his &#039;spidey-sense&#039; could just be an upgraded version of that power.&lt;br /&gt;
Second, BA never showed any healing powers before or after her transformation to TM2, but then again, she&#039;s rarely damaged to the point where she&#039;d need them, so she didn&#039;t really have a chance to use them. As for the link being all Tarantulas, it&#039;s true he initiated it, but again, it&#039;s been established that the link went both ways; BA mentioned in Other Visits that she could get inside Tarantulas&#039; head while the link was established, and gleaned a lot of information about the Tripredacus agent as a result, and both of them realized just how devastating BA&#039;s death would be to Tarantulas through the link in Tangled Web. Not only did Tarantulas feel BA&#039;s pain from her energon exposure through the link, but he also mentioned that if BA succeeded in committing suicide, it would feedback through the link and wipe him out, as well, hence BA&#039;s pleas to &amp;quot;save them both&amp;quot; by terminating the link. So, while Tarantulas created the link in the first place, it wasn&#039;t entirely one-sided, and no amount of mental torture would not leave any trace in the tortured party&#039;s mind.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 02:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:All of this is irrelevant to the fact that you&#039;re trying to push your own theories that aren&#039;t in the actual canon. If you see other cases of &amp;quot;fanon&amp;quot; in this wikia, then &#039;&#039;fix them&#039;&#039;. That fanon exists does not mean we should add &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; fanon. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 23:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excuse me? Who says they&#039;re &#039;&#039;my&#039;&#039; theories? As I said before, there was a discussion about this very same thing on Ben Yee&#039;s Transformers forum a while back (since deleted, unfortunately), and most people on there agreed with the theory. In fact, the Tarantulas/BA discussions on there hint constantly at their mind link and its relationship to her TM2 telekinesis, so this is &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; just my own personal pet belief. Fanon it may be, but I&#039;m completely shocked and disgusted that all of you are acting like I&#039;m the only one who&#039;s &amp;quot;dumb enough&amp;quot; to believe it, and it&#039;s &amp;quot;obvious&amp;quot; to anyone else that it&#039;s &#039;&#039;not true&#039;&#039;. That, personally, smacks of just as much personal bias as you seem to believe my posting this theory to have.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 07:21, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think you&#039;re taking this WAY too personally. When it comes to Fannon the simple answer is it really doesn&#039;t belong here. If it&#039;s something widely and universally adopted it may get a mention but otherwise fan theories just have no place here. This fan theory is definately not widely adopted nor is it an unavoidably logical assumption, as evidenced by the fact that no one else here had ever heard of it or believes there&#039;s any real evidence to support it asside from the wildly ephemeral and circumstantial. Keep it in your personal fannon sure, but recognize it for what it is and let it go already.&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;m taking it persnally, because of how it was treated on here: like it was some wild babbling of one fan trying to push his personal beliefs on a wiki, and that there&#039;s no possible way it could&#039;ve happened. Why do you think all my edits of it say that it was &#039;&#039;possible&#039;&#039; that it could&#039;ve happened, instaed of that it &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039;? Not saying that they aren&#039;t right, and it &#039;&#039;is&#039; just wild speculation (in fact, I emailed Mainframe to ask them about it directly just to put this debate to rest), but the main point of contention I have here, is that the mods seem to be so biased in their belief that there&#039;s no way it could possibly even hint to be true, even after the evidence is laid out, that they won&#039;t hear it. I even asked them for their explanation for how BA&#039;s telekinesis spontaneously developed, if not from her mind link with Tarantulas, and they essentially said &amp;quot;Uhhhh, we can&#039;t, but it definitely did&amp;quot;. They mentioned Dinobot&#039;s healing factor and Cheetor&#039;s &amp;quot;spider-sense&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;new powers&amp;quot; like BA&#039;s telekinesis; Cheetor showed those same healing powers during Feral Scream, and the techspecs for the TM2 line itself (trust me, I used to own the entire line) establishes it as being &#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039; among TM2s, while Cheetor&#039;s been established to have somewhat-prophetic dreams earlier in the show (and, since Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about Waspinator moments before Cheetor shot him, it&#039;s likely it was more or less a &amp;quot;cool trick&amp;quot; to show off how the process changed him). The fact that all of the evidence is stacked against them, and they can&#039;t even come up with an adequate defense for their own pet theories, yet they act and pretty much demand that it&#039;s the only logical explanation is what&#039;s driving this personally to me, not my own theories being rejected. I understand that this is a wiki, and a wiki&#039;s for truth, which is why I haven&#039;t reposted the theory ever since I started posting on this discussion, but the mod&#039;s own theories have even less evidence to back it up than mine does, so what the hell?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 19:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Your evidence is &amp;quot;she was once controlled tele&#039;&#039;&#039;pathically&#039;&#039;&#039;, so that&#039;s the obvious reason why she&#039;s later a tele&#039;&#039;&#039;kenetic&#039;&#039;&#039;, despite all of the other TM2s gaining similar powers at the same time she gets telekenesis.&amp;quot;  Your evidence is crap.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::And since when did the other TM2&#039;s get telekinetic abilities? Or even anything similar to them? How in the hell can you relate Dinobot&#039;s spark healing to her Telekinesis? &#039;&#039;That&#039;&#039; is crap. And again, you haven&#039;t given me &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; explanation as to how Cheetor gained &#039;spider-sense&#039;, especially since the only hint that he used them was to knock Waspinator out from behind his back &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;after&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; Optimus warned him about it. So, let me get this straight: since the mind link was tele&#039;&#039;&#039;pathic&#039;&#039;&#039; and not tele&#039;&#039;&#039;kinetic&#039;&#039;&#039;, they can&#039;t possibly be related, even though they&#039;re both ESP-based powers &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; closely related in nearly all fiction that has them. Again, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;watch the show again&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, and you&#039;ll see that, besides the &#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039; spark healing, &#039;&#039;none&#039;&#039; of the TM2s besides BA gained any extra powers, just upgrades to what they had before. BA&#039;s telekinesis came right out of the blue, with no ties to her abilities before &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;other&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; than her link with Tarantulas, and you&#039;re saying they can&#039;t be related, since they&#039;re totally different things. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;I still haven&#039;t heard one explanation from any of you as to how she gained those powers, if that&#039;s the case.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; All I&#039;ve heard from you is &amp;quot;Uhhh, we have no explanation, but you&#039;re full of shit, because it didn&#039;t happen that way&amp;quot;. You can&#039;t even back up your own argument, and yet you&#039;re completely convinced that mine is total crap. You even admit that my evidence coincides with my theory, which is a lot more than your lack of evidence is doing for yours. So again, I have to wonder if you guys actually watch and pay attention to the media that&#039;s covered in this wiki site, or if you&#039;re just winging it, because you certainly don&#039;t sound like you have a leg to stand on.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Y&#039;know, that&#039;s not the only time Cheetor&#039;s &amp;quot;spidey-sense&amp;quot; kicks in. In &#039;&#039;[[Go With The Flow]]&#039;&#039;, while Megatron is busy aiming his cannon at the Maximal base, Cheetor&#039;s spark compartment pops open on it&#039;s own and his spark begins to glow, leading him to look down at it and go &amp;quot;Uh-oh.&amp;quot; Just felt like pointing that out. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:50, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::And Cheetor was shown dreaming of Starscream&#039;s return and his rescue by Rattrap at the beginning of The Web, both of which came true. Your point? It&#039;s been established that Cheetor had some kind of precognitive abilities in his dreams a long time prior to Feral Scream, so again, his &amp;quot;spider sense&amp;quot; isn&#039;t a new, spontaneous power, but more than likely an upgrade of that established one.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;I question the placement of the BW Manga between the US BW and BM material.  We have been aligning most entries according to continuity, then series.  (See [[Hot Shot (UT)]], for example.  Cartoon:Armada, Energon, Cybertron; then Comic:Armada, Energon.)  That way, the summaries of stories flow logically and chronologically. I would probably prefer to move the BW Manga section after Universe.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed and done.  Why is Legends seperate?  Is it for the Armadqa tale?  is she even IN The Armada tale?  Or are was counting Furman&#039;s contribution as a seperate continuity?&lt;br /&gt;
In EITHER case, the banner &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; is an inaccurate container-continuity for the tales it contains, becase a character might appear in SEVERAL Legends tales, in multiple continuities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of Legends, I&#039;d say put the story/stories they appear in&#039;s title in italics as a header above the descriptive paragraph. - [[User: M Sipher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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So I&#039;m looking at the decomposing corpse of TFPulp. http://web.archive.org/web/20041019195546/www.tfpulp.com/archive/seiyuu/seiyuu.html She&#039;s all the way down at the bottom.  Says Black Widow&#039;s voice actress was &amp;quot;Ryoka Yuzuki aka Kanori Kadomatsu aka Ayumi Nagashii&amp;quot;.  Ryoka Yuzuki would appear to be her real name.  Is the one listed, Iwata, another alias? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia&#039;s Telekinesis and it&#039;s connection to Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m seriously getting tired of being accused of vandalism whenever I post that BA&#039;s TM2 telekinesis is likely a product of her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded. I&#039;ve been told repeatedly that it&#039;s an &#039;unsubstantiated rumor&#039;, but I&#039;ve seen similar theories about multiple entries in this site that have far less evidence to back them up than this has.&lt;br /&gt;
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While it&#039;s not stated directly, the evidence in-show obviously sets up the mind link as the source of the telekinesis: first, the link was stated as &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; in nature, not electronic or otherwise artificial, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any transmissions being made when the link was being used. It was also very powerful, and worked both ways; not only was Tarantulas able to speak through BA with it &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; cause her mental pain, but she also acquired a lot of information from his memories, information that she retained after the link was severed. Plus, when BA threatened to kill herself via energon radiation if the link wasn&#039;t terminated, her anguish was visibly shared through the link by Tarantulas, and even he noted that, if BA &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; terminate herself, the link would&#039;ve ensured his death, as well. There&#039;s also the debatable scene where Tarantulas forces himself inside BA&#039;s head after he&#039;s burned by Inferno, and had to download himself into his new TM body &#039;&#039;from BA&#039;s noggin&#039;&#039;, which could meaning that the link was established by his &#039;&#039;literally inhabiting her mind&#039;&#039;. Oh, and besides mutant spark-aided healing, I don&#039;t recall the show &#039;&#039;ever&#039;&#039; stating that the TM2 process granted a Transformer brand new abilities that they didn&#039;t have before, just upgrades to what they already had, meaning that the potential for BA&#039;s telekinesis had to already be there to begin with, and since BA was never even hinted at having the required mental faculties for psychokinesis, even before the mind-link, where else &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; she get it from?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, it&#039;s a theory, but it&#039;s a theory blatantly supported by the cartoon. Her eyes even glow the same color as when Tarantulas gained control of her during the link when she levitated the girder to dispatch Rampage, for crying out loud. If that doesn&#039;t solidify the &amp;quot;spider mindmeld alien upgrade&amp;quot; theory, then I dunno what does.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In no way is either telepathy or telekinesis a &amp;quot;powered up&amp;quot; version of the other.  They are totally unrelated abilities aside from both being brain things.  Precognition, clairvoyance, astral projection, etc., are also &amp;quot;psychic&amp;quot; brain things, but that doesn&#039;t mean they are related.  Honestly, until Derik posted to my talk page about it saying, &amp;quot;they are both psychic abilities&amp;quot;, I seriously had no idea why you would think they were connected.  There are *tons* of types of psychic ability.  All of the evidence you cite, other than the eye glow thing which might have something to it, is merely &#039;&#039;consistent with&#039;&#039; your theory; it doesn&#039;t &#039;&#039;support&#039;&#039; you.  All the same evidence is also consistent with her telekinesis having nothing to do with Tarantulas.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Regarding eye-glow: Several characters over the course of the series had their eyes glow for various reasons.  I don&#039;t recall what colors were used for these various effects.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if unrelated instances of glowing eyes happened to use the same color from time to time, but admittedly I don&#039;t know that offhand.&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he said. And, as far as eye-glow is concerned, I&#039;m WAY more inclined to chalk it up to &amp;quot;Mainframe knew how to do that effect&amp;quot; than them making some kind of conscious reference to an unrelated event practically a full season back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Which other Transformers were confirmed to have actual psychic abilities, especially in Beast Wars? Besides, the link not only allowed BA and Tarantulas to communicate telepathically, but it also allowed Tarantulas to TAKE OVER HER BODY and INFLICT PAIN ON HER PSYCHICALLY, neither of which are generally accepted as being strictly telepathic abilities. Plus, read any kind of fiction that includes psychic abilities, and you&#039;ll almost always see a telepath manifest telekinetic abilities of some form. It also makes far more sense than say...Primacron&#039;s Oracle assistant being THE Oracle of Beast Machines (which also has no evidence to support it, yet it&#039;s allowed in Primacron Oracle&#039;s article). Essentailly, all you&#039;re saying is Mainframe is too stupid to make self references of past subplots, which is interesting considering how they touched up on Tigatron and Airazor&#039;s abduction, the fate of Sentinel, BA&#039;s shell program, Tarantulas&#039; hatred for the Vok...need I go on? Honestly, do you guys even watch the media whose wikis you monitor?&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Dude, I&#039;ve seen Beast Wars more times than I can count.  I have it memorized.  No where was it remotely implied that Blackarachnia got telekinesis powers from having a mind-link with somebody else.  Those aren&#039;t even the same power!  Telekinetics and telepaths are two completely different things!  And please stop insulting people.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Didn&#039;t one of the BotCon comics retcon the Oracle as being the assistant? I&#039;m not sure of that. And typically, when we have fannon in an article, it is 1. in the trivia section, 2, is in it&#039;s own paragraph seperate from the cannon, and 3. is clearly stated as such. And even then, it&#039;s only included if it was notable in the fandom (aka, who was Dion built into, is Brawn dead or alive, who became Cyclonus, Scourge, and the Sweeps, etc. This is the only long discussion on this topic I&#039;ve seen, ans you seem to be the only one who insists the two abilities are linked. Yes, you can say the fiction doesn&#039;t contridict it, but you can claim the same thing about Alpha Trion being a pimp before the rebellion against the Quintessons. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::BotCon comics never mentioned the G1 Oracle, I&#039;m pretty sure.  (Its name is known only from the script, so I wouldn&#039;t expect that sort of thing to show up.)  Regardless, I&#039;ve removed that bit from that page&#039;s trivia section.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2? As I said before, there&#039;s nothing stated in the show that says that the process gives the Transformer new powers besides the spark-healing. In fact, beyond Blackarachnia, NONE of the TM2s in the show gained new abilities from the driver. Telekinesis is different from telepathy, fine, but as I explained, the mind link between BA and Tarantulas was NOT just merely telepathy; if it was, he shouldn&#039;t have been able to control her body, nor inflict pain on her. In fact, the moment he was restored to his original body, BA tried to shoot him, and what does he do? Force her mentally to turn her gun to her own head. That&#039;s not telepathy, now is it? It&#039;s just assumed to me &#039;mere&#039; telepathy, because that&#039;s for the most part what Tarantulas used it for: seeing and knowing whatever BA saw and knew.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 00:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::&amp;quot;What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2?&amp;quot;  Uh, yeah.  I think that&#039;s obvious.  That was sort of the deal.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Controlling somebody&#039;s body and causing them to feel pain are MOST DEFINITELY applications of telepathy as portrayed in many works of fiction.  Both come about through manipulating the victom&#039;s mind, not by applying force to the limbs.  The only story I can think of offhand where telekinesis is considered to be something &amp;quot;beyond&amp;quot; but connected to telepathy is &#039;&#039;Babylon 5&#039;&#039;, and even in that series, telepaths with no teke inflicted pain and mind-control on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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You are right, there is no &amp;quot;other&amp;quot; explanation for where her powers came from. There is also no explanation for where the Transmetal Driver came from in the first place, how it brought her back from the dead, or why it made Cheetor go Jeckyll/Hyde.  This doesn&#039;t mean that just because some idea some people discussed *can* fit the canon that it is *supported* by the canon.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::After none of the other TM2s in the show gained any such spontaneous abilities?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::...but they did!  I&#039;m starting to wonder who really hasn&#039;t watched the show, here.  Dinobot had magical healing factor.  Cheetor had Spidey-sense.  And they all used the same crazy glow-effect tentacles.  TM2s had special mutant powers.  It was their deal, as I said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Unlikely. I&#039;m sorry, but &amp;quot;a wizard did it&amp;quot; just isn&#039;t flying with me, especially considering how much of a freak accident it would have to be in order for it to work. Did Cheetor gain the ability to teleport, for instance, or Dinobot the power to slow time? No, they did not; aside from the spark-healing (which seems to be pretty universal for all Transmetal 2&#039;s), any powers they gained were mere upgrades to whatever they had before; Cheetor could run faster and &#039;air dash&#039; like his original Transmetal form, while DInobot had a laser-firing eyepiece and razor-sharp melee weapons. If you consider them TM2&#039;s, only Tigerhawk gained any &#039;new&#039; powers, due to direct Vok influence and not the modified driver; Megatron gained the ability to fly and shoot things from his gun/head hand. Again, nothing new there. So why is it that only Blackarachnia gained a power that&#039;s not only completely new, but according to you not even remotely related to her in the least? The psychic link theory is more feasible to me, because of the consistency it has with all of the other showings of what a TM2 gains in the show: greatly heightened versions of their existing powers. You can argue that the process was unfinished, but then again, so was Cheetor&#039;s, and he didn&#039;t gain any nifty new power; you can say that she was technically dead when the process finished, but Dinobot was a cloned blank protoform with half a spark that&#039;s not even his own, Cheetor woas on death&#039;s doorstep himself, and Megatron was thrown into a lava bath and left for dead. Again, none of them gained any new powers. The only thing that logically fits here is her psychic link with Tarantulas, and considering how much he screwed with her mind, how can you say there was no trace of the link left in her head after it was severed?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 01:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::: I know I haven&#039;t seen BW in awhile, but I&#039;m pretty sure BA never had any magical healing factor (not as sure about Cheetor, though). Plus, it was never even implied that BA had telepathy. All that was from the mind link, which was entirely Tarantulas. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: First, Walky, both Cheetor and Dinobot had glow-effect tentacle healing powers; Dinobot was seen using it more actively and often than Cheetor, but Cheetor did use them to heal himself fully (if unknowingly) after he was almost slagged by his dip in the Transmetal driver. And the &#039;spidey-sense&#039; you&#039;re talking about? If you&#039;re thinking of him blasting Waspinator behind his back without even looking, that was just a &#039;cool trick&#039; (Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about the Pred a few seconds before he blasted him), and even if it wasn&#039;t, it&#039;s been shown in the first and possibly second season that Cheetor&#039;s dreams sometimes foretell future events, so his &#039;spidey-sense&#039; could just be an upgraded version of that power.&lt;br /&gt;
Second, BA never showed any healing powers before or after her transformation to TM2, but then again, she&#039;s rarely damaged to the point where she&#039;d need them, so she didn&#039;t really have a chance to use them. As for the link being all Tarantulas, it&#039;s true he initiated it, but again, it&#039;s been established that the link went both ways; BA mentioned in Other Visits that she could get inside Tarantulas&#039; head while the link was established, and gleaned a lot of information about the Tripredacus agent as a result, and both of them realized just how devastating BA&#039;s death would be to Tarantulas through the link in Tangled Web. Not only did Tarantulas feel BA&#039;s pain from her energon exposure through the link, but he also mentioned that if BA succeeded in committing suicide, it would feedback through the link and wipe him out, as well, hence BA&#039;s pleas to &amp;quot;save them both&amp;quot; by terminating the link. So, while Tarantulas created the link in the first place, it wasn&#039;t entirely one-sided, and no amount of mental torture would not leave any trace in the tortured party&#039;s mind.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 02:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:All of this is irrelevant to the fact that you&#039;re trying to push your own theories that aren&#039;t in the actual canon. If you see other cases of &amp;quot;fanon&amp;quot; in this wikia, then &#039;&#039;fix them&#039;&#039;. That fanon exists does not mean we should add &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; fanon. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 23:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excuse me? Who says they&#039;re &#039;&#039;my&#039;&#039; theories? As I said before, there was a discussion about this very same thing on Ben Yee&#039;s Transformers forum a while back (since deleted, unfortunately), and most people on there agreed with the theory. In fact, the Tarantulas/BA discussions on there hint constantly at their mind link and its relationship to her TM2 telekinesis, so this is &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; just my own personal pet belief. Fanon it may be, but I&#039;m completely shocked and disgusted that all of you are acting like I&#039;m the only one who&#039;s &amp;quot;dumb enough&amp;quot; to believe it, and it&#039;s &amp;quot;obvious&amp;quot; to anyone else that it&#039;s &#039;&#039;not true&#039;&#039;. That, personally, smacks of just as much personal bias as you seem to believe my posting this theory to have.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 07:21, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think you&#039;re taking this WAY too personally. When it comes to Fannon the simple answer is it really doesn&#039;t belong here. If it&#039;s something widely and universally adopted it may get a mention but otherwise fan theories just have no place here. This fan theory is definately not widely adopted nor is it an unavoidably logical assumption, as evidenced by the fact that no one else here had ever heard of it or believes there&#039;s any real evidence to support it asside from the wildly ephemeral and circumstantial. Keep it in your personal fannon sure, but recognize it for what it is and let it go already.&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;m taking it persnally, because of how it was treated on here: like it was some wild babbling of one fan trying to push his personal beliefs on a wiki, and that there&#039;s no possible way it could&#039;ve happened. Why do you think all my edits of it say that it was &#039;&#039;possible&#039;&#039; that it could&#039;ve happened, instaed of that it &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039;? Not saying that they aren&#039;t right, and it &#039;&#039;is&#039; just wild speculation (in fact, I emailed Mainframe to ask them about it directly just to put this debate to rest), but the main point of contention I have here, is that the mods seem to be so biased in their belief that there&#039;s no way it could possibly even hint to be true, even after the evidence is laid out, that they won&#039;t hear it. I even asked them for their explanation for how BA&#039;s telekinesis spontaneously developed, if not from her mind link with Tarantulas, and they essentially said &amp;quot;Uhhhh, we can&#039;t, but it definitely did&amp;quot;. They mentioned Dinobot&#039;s healing factor and Cheetor&#039;s &amp;quot;spider-sense&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;new powers&amp;quot; like BA&#039;s telekinesis; Cheetor showed those same healing powers during Feral Scream, and the techspecs for the TM2 line itself (trust me, I used to own the entire line) establishes it as being &#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039; among TM2s, while Cheetor&#039;s been established to have somewhat-prophetic dreams earlier in the show (and, since Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about Waspinator moments before Cheetor shot him, it&#039;s likely it was more or less a &amp;quot;cool trick&amp;quot; to show off how the process changed him). The fact that all of the evidence is stacked against them, and they can&#039;t even come up with an adequate defense for their own pet theories, yet they act and pretty much demand that it&#039;s the only logical explanation is what&#039;s driving this personally to me, not my own theories being rejected. I understand that this is a wiki, and a wiki&#039;s for truth, which is why I haven&#039;t reposted the theory ever since I started posting on this discussion, but the mod&#039;s own theories have even less evidence to back it up than mine does, so what the hell?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 19:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Your evidence is &amp;quot;she was once controlled tele&#039;&#039;&#039;pathically&#039;&#039;&#039;, so that&#039;s the obvious reason why she&#039;s later a tele&#039;&#039;&#039;kenetic&#039;&#039;&#039;, despite all of the other TM2s gaining similar powers at the same time she gets telekenesis.&amp;quot;  Your evidence is crap.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::And since when did the other TM2&#039;s get telekinetic abilities? Or even anything similar to them? How in the hell can you relate Dinobot&#039;s spark healing to her Telekinesis? &#039;&#039;That&#039;&#039; is crap. And again, you haven&#039;t given me &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; explanation as to how Cheetor gained &#039;spider-sense&#039;, especially since the only hint that he used them was to knock Waspinator out from behind his back &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;after&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; Optimus warned him about it. So, let me get this straight: since the mind link was tele&#039;&#039;&#039;pathic&#039;&#039;&#039; and not tele&#039;&#039;&#039;kinetic&#039;&#039;&#039;, they can&#039;t possibly be related, even though they&#039;re both ESP-based powers &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; closely related in nearly all fiction that has them. Again, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;watch the show again&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, and you&#039;ll see that, besides the &#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039; spark healing, &#039;&#039;none&#039;&#039; of the TM2s besides BA gained any extra powers, just upgrades to what they had before. BA&#039;s telekinesis came right out of the blue, with no ties to her abilities before &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;other&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; than her link with Tarantulas, and you&#039;re saying they can&#039;t be related, since they&#039;re totally different things. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;I still haven&#039;t heard one explanation from any of you as to how she gained those powers, if that&#039;s the case.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; All I&#039;ve heard from you is &amp;quot;Uhhh, we have no explanation, but you&#039;re full of shit, because it didn&#039;t happen that way&amp;quot;. You can&#039;t even back up your own argument, and yet you&#039;re completely convinced that mine is total crap. You even admit that my evidence coincides with my theory, which is a lot more than your lack of evidence is doing for yours. So again, I have to wonder if you guys actually watch and pay attention to the media that&#039;s covered in this wiki site, or if you&#039;re just winging it, because you certainly don&#039;t sound like you have a leg to stand on.&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;I question the placement of the BW Manga between the US BW and BM material.  We have been aligning most entries according to continuity, then series.  (See [[Hot Shot (UT)]], for example.  Cartoon:Armada, Energon, Cybertron; then Comic:Armada, Energon.)  That way, the summaries of stories flow logically and chronologically. I would probably prefer to move the BW Manga section after Universe.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed and done.  Why is Legends seperate?  Is it for the Armadqa tale?  is she even IN The Armada tale?  Or are was counting Furman&#039;s contribution as a seperate continuity?&lt;br /&gt;
In EITHER case, the banner &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; is an inaccurate container-continuity for the tales it contains, becase a character might appear in SEVERAL Legends tales, in multiple continuities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of Legends, I&#039;d say put the story/stories they appear in&#039;s title in italics as a header above the descriptive paragraph. - [[User: M Sipher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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So I&#039;m looking at the decomposing corpse of TFPulp. http://web.archive.org/web/20041019195546/www.tfpulp.com/archive/seiyuu/seiyuu.html She&#039;s all the way down at the bottom.  Says Black Widow&#039;s voice actress was &amp;quot;Ryoka Yuzuki aka Kanori Kadomatsu aka Ayumi Nagashii&amp;quot;.  Ryoka Yuzuki would appear to be her real name.  Is the one listed, Iwata, another alias? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia&#039;s Telekinesis and it&#039;s connection to Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m seriously getting tired of being accused of vandalism whenever I post that BA&#039;s TM2 telekinesis is likely a product of her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded. I&#039;ve been told repeatedly that it&#039;s an &#039;unsubstantiated rumor&#039;, but I&#039;ve seen similar theories about multiple entries in this site that have far less evidence to back them up than this has.&lt;br /&gt;
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While it&#039;s not stated directly, the evidence in-show obviously sets up the mind link as the source of the telekinesis: first, the link was stated as &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; in nature, not electronic or otherwise artificial, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any transmissions being made when the link was being used. It was also very powerful, and worked both ways; not only was Tarantulas able to speak through BA with it &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; cause her mental pain, but she also acquired a lot of information from his memories, information that she retained after the link was severed. Plus, when BA threatened to kill herself via energon radiation if the link wasn&#039;t terminated, her anguish was visibly shared through the link by Tarantulas, and even he noted that, if BA &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; terminate herself, the link would&#039;ve ensured his death, as well. There&#039;s also the debatable scene where Tarantulas forces himself inside BA&#039;s head after he&#039;s burned by Inferno, and had to download himself into his new TM body &#039;&#039;from BA&#039;s noggin&#039;&#039;, which could meaning that the link was established by his &#039;&#039;literally inhabiting her mind&#039;&#039;. Oh, and besides mutant spark-aided healing, I don&#039;t recall the show &#039;&#039;ever&#039;&#039; stating that the TM2 process granted a Transformer brand new abilities that they didn&#039;t have before, just upgrades to what they already had, meaning that the potential for BA&#039;s telekinesis had to already be there to begin with, and since BA was never even hinted at having the required mental faculties for psychokinesis, even before the mind-link, where else &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; she get it from?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, it&#039;s a theory, but it&#039;s a theory blatantly supported by the cartoon. Her eyes even glow the same color as when Tarantulas gained control of her during the link when she levitated the girder to dispatch Rampage, for crying out loud. If that doesn&#039;t solidify the &amp;quot;spider mindmeld alien upgrade&amp;quot; theory, then I dunno what does.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In no way is either telepathy or telekinesis a &amp;quot;powered up&amp;quot; version of the other.  They are totally unrelated abilities aside from both being brain things.  Precognition, clairvoyance, astral projection, etc., are also &amp;quot;psychic&amp;quot; brain things, but that doesn&#039;t mean they are related.  Honestly, until Derik posted to my talk page about it saying, &amp;quot;they are both psychic abilities&amp;quot;, I seriously had no idea why you would think they were connected.  There are *tons* of types of psychic ability.  All of the evidence you cite, other than the eye glow thing which might have something to it, is merely &#039;&#039;consistent with&#039;&#039; your theory; it doesn&#039;t &#039;&#039;support&#039;&#039; you.  All the same evidence is also consistent with her telekinesis having nothing to do with Tarantulas.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Regarding eye-glow: Several characters over the course of the series had their eyes glow for various reasons.  I don&#039;t recall what colors were used for these various effects.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if unrelated instances of glowing eyes happened to use the same color from time to time, but admittedly I don&#039;t know that offhand.&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he said. And, as far as eye-glow is concerned, I&#039;m WAY more inclined to chalk it up to &amp;quot;Mainframe knew how to do that effect&amp;quot; than them making some kind of conscious reference to an unrelated event practically a full season back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Which other Transformers were confirmed to have actual psychic abilities, especially in Beast Wars? Besides, the link not only allowed BA and Tarantulas to communicate telepathically, but it also allowed Tarantulas to TAKE OVER HER BODY and INFLICT PAIN ON HER PSYCHICALLY, neither of which are generally accepted as being strictly telepathic abilities. Plus, read any kind of fiction that includes psychic abilities, and you&#039;ll almost always see a telepath manifest telekinetic abilities of some form. It also makes far more sense than say...Primacron&#039;s Oracle assistant being THE Oracle of Beast Machines (which also has no evidence to support it, yet it&#039;s allowed in Primacron Oracle&#039;s article). Essentailly, all you&#039;re saying is Mainframe is too stupid to make self references of past subplots, which is interesting considering how they touched up on Tigatron and Airazor&#039;s abduction, the fate of Sentinel, BA&#039;s shell program, Tarantulas&#039; hatred for the Vok...need I go on? Honestly, do you guys even watch the media whose wikis you monitor?&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Dude, I&#039;ve seen Beast Wars more times than I can count.  I have it memorized.  No where was it remotely implied that Blackarachnia got telekinesis powers from having a mind-link with somebody else.  Those aren&#039;t even the same power!  Telekinetics and telepaths are two completely different things!  And please stop insulting people.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Didn&#039;t one of the BotCon comics retcon the Oracle as being the assistant? I&#039;m not sure of that. And typically, when we have fannon in an article, it is 1. in the trivia section, 2, is in it&#039;s own paragraph seperate from the cannon, and 3. is clearly stated as such. And even then, it&#039;s only included if it was notable in the fandom (aka, who was Dion built into, is Brawn dead or alive, who became Cyclonus, Scourge, and the Sweeps, etc. This is the only long discussion on this topic I&#039;ve seen, ans you seem to be the only one who insists the two abilities are linked. Yes, you can say the fiction doesn&#039;t contridict it, but you can claim the same thing about Alpha Trion being a pimp before the rebellion against the Quintessons. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::BotCon comics never mentioned the G1 Oracle, I&#039;m pretty sure.  (Its name is known only from the script, so I wouldn&#039;t expect that sort of thing to show up.)  Regardless, I&#039;ve removed that bit from that page&#039;s trivia section.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2? As I said before, there&#039;s nothing stated in the show that says that the process gives the Transformer new powers besides the spark-healing. In fact, beyond Blackarachnia, NONE of the TM2s in the show gained new abilities from the driver. Telekinesis is different from telepathy, fine, but as I explained, the mind link between BA and Tarantulas was NOT just merely telepathy; if it was, he shouldn&#039;t have been able to control her body, nor inflict pain on her. In fact, the moment he was restored to his original body, BA tried to shoot him, and what does he do? Force her mentally to turn her gun to her own head. That&#039;s not telepathy, now is it? It&#039;s just assumed to me &#039;mere&#039; telepathy, because that&#039;s for the most part what Tarantulas used it for: seeing and knowing whatever BA saw and knew.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 00:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::&amp;quot;What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2?&amp;quot;  Uh, yeah.  I think that&#039;s obvious.  That was sort of the deal.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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66.233.183.59, you seem to be taking this all really personally.  We are not saying that &amp;quot;Mainframe is too stupid&amp;quot; to have referenced a past episode.  We are saying that in this particular case we don&#039;t think they were doing so.&lt;br /&gt;
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Controlling somebody&#039;s body and causing them to feel pain are MOST DEFINITELY applications of telepathy as portrayed in many works of fiction.  Both come about through manipulating the victom&#039;s mind, not by applying force to the limbs.  The only story I can think of offhand where telekinesis is considered to be something &amp;quot;beyond&amp;quot; but connected to telepathy is &#039;&#039;Babylon 5&#039;&#039;, and even in that series, telepaths with no teke inflicted pain and mind-control on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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You are right, there is no &amp;quot;other&amp;quot; explanation for where her powers came from. There is also no explanation for where the Transmetal Driver came from in the first place, how it brought her back from the dead, or why it made Cheetor go Jeckyll/Hyde.  This doesn&#039;t mean that just because some idea some people discussed *can* fit the canon that it is *supported* by the canon.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::After none of the other TM2s in the show gained any such spontaneous abilities?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::...but they did!  I&#039;m starting to wonder who really hasn&#039;t watched the show, here.  Dinobot had magical healing factor.  Cheetor had Spidey-sense.  And they all used the same crazy glow-effect tentacles.  TM2s had special mutant powers.  It was their deal, as I said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Unlikely. I&#039;m sorry, but &amp;quot;a wizard did it&amp;quot; just isn&#039;t flying with me, especially considering how much of a freak accident it would have to be in order for it to work. Did Cheetor gain the ability to teleport, for instance, or Dinobot the power to slow time? No, they did not; aside from the spark-healing (which seems to be pretty universal for all Transmetal 2&#039;s), any powers they gained were mere upgrades to whatever they had before; Cheetor could run faster and &#039;air dash&#039; like his original Transmetal form, while DInobot had a laser-firing eyepiece and razor-sharp melee weapons. If you consider them TM2&#039;s, only Tigerhawk gained any &#039;new&#039; powers, due to direct Vok influence and not the modified driver; Megatron gained the ability to fly and shoot things from his gun/head hand. Again, nothing new there. So why is it that only Blackarachnia gained a power that&#039;s not only completely new, but according to you not even remotely related to her in the least? The psychic link theory is more feasible to me, because of the consistency it has with all of the other showings of what a TM2 gains in the show: greatly heightened versions of their existing powers. You can argue that the process was unfinished, but then again, so was Cheetor&#039;s, and he didn&#039;t gain any nifty new power; you can say that she was technically dead when the process finished, but Dinobot was a cloned blank protoform with half a spark that&#039;s not even his own, Cheetor woas on death&#039;s doorstep himself, and Megatron was thrown into a lava bath and left for dead. Again, none of them gained any new powers. The only thing that logically fits here is her psychic link with Tarantulas, and considering how much he screwed with her mind, how can you say there was no trace of the link left in her head after it was severed?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 01:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::: I know I haven&#039;t seen BW in awhile, but I&#039;m pretty sure BA never had any magical healing factor (not as sure about Cheetor, though). Plus, it was never even implied that BA had telepathy. All that was from the mind link, which was entirely Tarantulas. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: First, Walky, both Cheetor and Dinobot had glow-effect tentacle healing powers; Dinobot was seen using it more actively and often than Cheetor, but Cheetor did use them to heal himself fully (if unknowingly) after he was almost slagged by his dip in the Transmetal driver. And the &#039;spidey-sense&#039; you&#039;re talking about? If you&#039;re thinking of him blasting Waspinator behind his back without even looking, that was just a &#039;cool trick&#039; (Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about the Pred a few seconds before he blasted him), and even if it wasn&#039;t, it&#039;s been shown in the first and possibly second season that Cheetor&#039;s dreams sometimes foretell future events, so his &#039;spidey-sense&#039; could just be an upgraded version of that power.&lt;br /&gt;
Second, BA never showed any healing powers before or after her transformation to TM2, but then again, she&#039;s rarely damaged to the point where she&#039;d need them, so she didn&#039;t really have a chance to use them. As for the link being all Tarantulas, it&#039;s true he initiated it, but again, it&#039;s been established that the link went both ways; BA mentioned in Other Visits that she could get inside Tarantulas&#039; head while the link was established, and gleaned a lot of information about the Tripredacus agent as a result, and both of them realized just how devastating BA&#039;s death would be to Tarantulas through the link in Tangled Web. Not only did Tarantulas feel BA&#039;s pain from her energon exposure through the link, but he also mentioned that if BA succeeded in committing suicide, it would feedback through the link and wipe him out, as well, hence BA&#039;s pleas to &amp;quot;save them both&amp;quot; by terminating the link. So, while Tarantulas created the link in the first place, it wasn&#039;t entirely one-sided, and no amount of mental torture would not leave any trace in the tortured party&#039;s mind.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 02:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:All of this is irrelevant to the fact that you&#039;re trying to push your own theories that aren&#039;t in the actual canon. If you see other cases of &amp;quot;fanon&amp;quot; in this wikia, then &#039;&#039;fix them&#039;&#039;. That fanon exists does not mean we should add &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; fanon. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 23:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excuse me? Who says they&#039;re &#039;&#039;my&#039;&#039; theories? As I said before, there was a discussion about this very same thing on Ben Yee&#039;s Transformers forum a while back (since deleted, unfortunately), and most people on there agreed with the theory. In fact, the Tarantulas/BA discussions on there hint constantly at their mind link and its relationship to her TM2 telekinesis, so this is &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; just my own personal pet belief. Fanon it may be, but I&#039;m completely shocked and disgusted that all of you are acting like I&#039;m the only one who&#039;s &amp;quot;dumb enough&amp;quot; to believe it, and it&#039;s &amp;quot;obvious&amp;quot; to anyone else that it&#039;s &#039;&#039;not true&#039;&#039;. That, personally, smacks of just as much personal bias as you seem to believe my posting this theory to have.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 07:21, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think you&#039;re taking this WAY too personally. When it comes to Fannon the simple answer is it really doesn&#039;t belong here. If it&#039;s something widely and universally adopted it may get a mention but otherwise fan theories just have no place here. This fan theory is definately not widely adopted nor is it an unavoidably logical assumption, as evidenced by the fact that no one else here had ever heard of it or believes there&#039;s any real evidence to support it asside from the wildly ephemeral and circumstantial. Keep it in your personal fannon sure, but recognize it for what it is and let it go already.&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;m taking it persnally, because of how it was treated on here: like it was some wild babbling of one fan trying to push his personal beliefs on a wiki, and that there&#039;s no possible way it could&#039;ve happened. Why do you think all my edits of it say that it was &#039;&#039;possible&#039;&#039; that it could&#039;ve happened, instaed of that it &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039;? Not saying that they aren&#039;t right, and it &#039;&#039;is&#039; just wild speculation (in fact, I emailed Mainframe to ask them about it directly just to put this debate to rest), but the main point of contention I have here, is that the mods seem to be so biased in their belief that there&#039;s no way it could possibly even hint to be true, even after the evidence is laid out, that they won&#039;t hear it. I even asked them for their explanation for how BA&#039;s telekinesis spontaneously developed, if not from her mind link with Tarantulas, and they essentially said &amp;quot;Uhhhh, we can&#039;t, but it definitely did&amp;quot;. They mentioned Dinobot&#039;s healing factor and Cheetor&#039;s &amp;quot;spider-sense&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;new powers&amp;quot; like BA&#039;s telekinesis; Cheetor showed those same healing powers during Feral Scream, and the techspecs for the TM2 line itself (trust me, I used to own the entire line) establishes it as being &#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039; among TM2s, while Cheetor&#039;s been established to have somewhat-prophetic dreams earlier in the show (and, since Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about Waspinator moments before Cheetor shot him, it&#039;s likely it was more or less a &amp;quot;cool trick&amp;quot; to show off how the process changed him). The fact that all of the evidence is stacked against them, and they can&#039;t even come up with an adequate defense for their own pet theories, yet they act and pretty much demand that it&#039;s the only logical explanation is what&#039;s driving this personally to me, not my own theories being rejected. I understand that this is a wiki, and a wiki&#039;s for truth, which is why I haven&#039;t reposted the theory ever since I started posting on this discussion, but the mod&#039;s own theories have even less evidence to back it up than mine does, so what the hell?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 19:16, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;I question the placement of the BW Manga between the US BW and BM material.  We have been aligning most entries according to continuity, then series.  (See [[Hot Shot (UT)]], for example.  Cartoon:Armada, Energon, Cybertron; then Comic:Armada, Energon.)  That way, the summaries of stories flow logically and chronologically. I would probably prefer to move the BW Manga section after Universe.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed and done.  Why is Legends seperate?  Is it for the Armadqa tale?  is she even IN The Armada tale?  Or are was counting Furman&#039;s contribution as a seperate continuity?&lt;br /&gt;
In EITHER case, the banner &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; is an inaccurate container-continuity for the tales it contains, becase a character might appear in SEVERAL Legends tales, in multiple continuities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of Legends, I&#039;d say put the story/stories they appear in&#039;s title in italics as a header above the descriptive paragraph. - [[User: M Sipher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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So I&#039;m looking at the decomposing corpse of TFPulp. http://web.archive.org/web/20041019195546/www.tfpulp.com/archive/seiyuu/seiyuu.html She&#039;s all the way down at the bottom.  Says Black Widow&#039;s voice actress was &amp;quot;Ryoka Yuzuki aka Kanori Kadomatsu aka Ayumi Nagashii&amp;quot;.  Ryoka Yuzuki would appear to be her real name.  Is the one listed, Iwata, another alias? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia&#039;s Telekinesis and it&#039;s connection to Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m seriously getting tired of being accused of vandalism whenever I post that BA&#039;s TM2 telekinesis is likely a product of her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded. I&#039;ve been told repeatedly that it&#039;s an &#039;unsubstantiated rumor&#039;, but I&#039;ve seen similar theories about multiple entries in this site that have far less evidence to back them up than this has.&lt;br /&gt;
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While it&#039;s not stated directly, the evidence in-show obviously sets up the mind link as the source of the telekinesis: first, the link was stated as &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; in nature, not electronic or otherwise artificial, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any transmissions being made when the link was being used. It was also very powerful, and worked both ways; not only was Tarantulas able to speak through BA with it &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; cause her mental pain, but she also acquired a lot of information from his memories, information that she retained after the link was severed. Plus, when BA threatened to kill herself via energon radiation if the link wasn&#039;t terminated, her anguish was visibly shared through the link by Tarantulas, and even he noted that, if BA &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; terminate herself, the link would&#039;ve ensured his death, as well. There&#039;s also the debatable scene where Tarantulas forces himself inside BA&#039;s head after he&#039;s burned by Inferno, and had to download himself into his new TM body &#039;&#039;from BA&#039;s noggin&#039;&#039;, which could meaning that the link was established by his &#039;&#039;literally inhabiting her mind&#039;&#039;. Oh, and besides mutant spark-aided healing, I don&#039;t recall the show &#039;&#039;ever&#039;&#039; stating that the TM2 process granted a Transformer brand new abilities that they didn&#039;t have before, just upgrades to what they already had, meaning that the potential for BA&#039;s telekinesis had to already be there to begin with, and since BA was never even hinted at having the required mental faculties for psychokinesis, even before the mind-link, where else &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; she get it from?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, it&#039;s a theory, but it&#039;s a theory blatantly supported by the cartoon. Her eyes even glow the same color as when Tarantulas gained control of her during the link when she levitated the girder to dispatch Rampage, for crying out loud. If that doesn&#039;t solidify the &amp;quot;spider mindmeld alien upgrade&amp;quot; theory, then I dunno what does.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In no way is either telepathy or telekinesis a &amp;quot;powered up&amp;quot; version of the other.  They are totally unrelated abilities aside from both being brain things.  Precognition, clairvoyance, astral projection, etc., are also &amp;quot;psychic&amp;quot; brain things, but that doesn&#039;t mean they are related.  Honestly, until Derik posted to my talk page about it saying, &amp;quot;they are both psychic abilities&amp;quot;, I seriously had no idea why you would think they were connected.  There are *tons* of types of psychic ability.  All of the evidence you cite, other than the eye glow thing which might have something to it, is merely &#039;&#039;consistent with&#039;&#039; your theory; it doesn&#039;t &#039;&#039;support&#039;&#039; you.  All the same evidence is also consistent with her telekinesis having nothing to do with Tarantulas.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Regarding eye-glow: Several characters over the course of the series had their eyes glow for various reasons.  I don&#039;t recall what colors were used for these various effects.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if unrelated instances of glowing eyes happened to use the same color from time to time, but admittedly I don&#039;t know that offhand.&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he said. And, as far as eye-glow is concerned, I&#039;m WAY more inclined to chalk it up to &amp;quot;Mainframe knew how to do that effect&amp;quot; than them making some kind of conscious reference to an unrelated event practically a full season back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Which other Transformers were confirmed to have actual psychic abilities, especially in Beast Wars? Besides, the link not only allowed BA and Tarantulas to communicate telepathically, but it also allowed Tarantulas to TAKE OVER HER BODY and INFLICT PAIN ON HER PSYCHICALLY, neither of which are generally accepted as being strictly telepathic abilities. Plus, read any kind of fiction that includes psychic abilities, and you&#039;ll almost always see a telepath manifest telekinetic abilities of some form. It also makes far more sense than say...Primacron&#039;s Oracle assistant being THE Oracle of Beast Machines (which also has no evidence to support it, yet it&#039;s allowed in Primacron Oracle&#039;s article). Essentailly, all you&#039;re saying is Mainframe is too stupid to make self references of past subplots, which is interesting considering how they touched up on Tigatron and Airazor&#039;s abduction, the fate of Sentinel, BA&#039;s shell program, Tarantulas&#039; hatred for the Vok...need I go on? Honestly, do you guys even watch the media whose wikis you monitor?&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Dude, I&#039;ve seen Beast Wars more times than I can count.  I have it memorized.  No where was it remotely implied that Blackarachnia got telekinesis powers from having a mind-link with somebody else.  Those aren&#039;t even the same power!  Telekinetics and telepaths are two completely different things!  And please stop insulting people.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Didn&#039;t one of the BotCon comics retcon the Oracle as being the assistant? I&#039;m not sure of that. And typically, when we have fannon in an article, it is 1. in the trivia section, 2, is in it&#039;s own paragraph seperate from the cannon, and 3. is clearly stated as such. And even then, it&#039;s only included if it was notable in the fandom (aka, who was Dion built into, is Brawn dead or alive, who became Cyclonus, Scourge, and the Sweeps, etc. This is the only long discussion on this topic I&#039;ve seen, ans you seem to be the only one who insists the two abilities are linked. Yes, you can say the fiction doesn&#039;t contridict it, but you can claim the same thing about Alpha Trion being a pimp before the rebellion against the Quintessons. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::BotCon comics never mentioned the G1 Oracle, I&#039;m pretty sure.  (Its name is known only from the script, so I wouldn&#039;t expect that sort of thing to show up.)  Regardless, I&#039;ve removed that bit from that page&#039;s trivia section.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2? As I said before, there&#039;s nothing stated in the show that says that the process gives the Transformer new powers besides the spark-healing. In fact, beyond Blackarachnia, NONE of the TM2s in the show gained new abilities from the driver. Telekinesis is different from telepathy, fine, but as I explained, the mind link between BA and Tarantulas was NOT just merely telepathy; if it was, he shouldn&#039;t have been able to control her body, nor inflict pain on her. In fact, the moment he was restored to his original body, BA tried to shoot him, and what does he do? Force her mentally to turn her gun to her own head. That&#039;s not telepathy, now is it? It&#039;s just assumed to me &#039;mere&#039; telepathy, because that&#039;s for the most part what Tarantulas used it for: seeing and knowing whatever BA saw and knew.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 00:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::&amp;quot;What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2?&amp;quot;  Uh, yeah.  I think that&#039;s obvious.  That was sort of the deal.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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66.233.183.59, you seem to be taking this all really personally.  We are not saying that &amp;quot;Mainframe is too stupid&amp;quot; to have referenced a past episode.  We are saying that in this particular case we don&#039;t think they were doing so.&lt;br /&gt;
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Controlling somebody&#039;s body and causing them to feel pain are MOST DEFINITELY applications of telepathy as portrayed in many works of fiction.  Both come about through manipulating the victom&#039;s mind, not by applying force to the limbs.  The only story I can think of offhand where telekinesis is considered to be something &amp;quot;beyond&amp;quot; but connected to telepathy is &#039;&#039;Babylon 5&#039;&#039;, and even in that series, telepaths with no teke inflicted pain and mind-control on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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You are right, there is no &amp;quot;other&amp;quot; explanation for where her powers came from. There is also no explanation for where the Transmetal Driver came from in the first place, how it brought her back from the dead, or why it made Cheetor go Jeckyll/Hyde.  This doesn&#039;t mean that just because some idea some people discussed *can* fit the canon that it is *supported* by the canon.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::After none of the other TM2s in the show gained any such spontaneous abilities?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::...but they did!  I&#039;m starting to wonder who really hasn&#039;t watched the show, here.  Dinobot had magical healing factor.  Cheetor had Spidey-sense.  And they all used the same crazy glow-effect tentacles.  TM2s had special mutant powers.  It was their deal, as I said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Unlikely. I&#039;m sorry, but &amp;quot;a wizard did it&amp;quot; just isn&#039;t flying with me, especially considering how much of a freak accident it would have to be in order for it to work. Did Cheetor gain the ability to teleport, for instance, or Dinobot the power to slow time? No, they did not; aside from the spark-healing (which seems to be pretty universal for all Transmetal 2&#039;s), any powers they gained were mere upgrades to whatever they had before; Cheetor could run faster and &#039;air dash&#039; like his original Transmetal form, while DInobot had a laser-firing eyepiece and razor-sharp melee weapons. If you consider them TM2&#039;s, only Tigerhawk gained any &#039;new&#039; powers, due to direct Vok influence and not the modified driver; Megatron gained the ability to fly and shoot things from his gun/head hand. Again, nothing new there. So why is it that only Blackarachnia gained a power that&#039;s not only completely new, but according to you not even remotely related to her in the least? The psychic link theory is more feasible to me, because of the consistency it has with all of the other showings of what a TM2 gains in the show: greatly heightened versions of their existing powers. You can argue that the process was unfinished, but then again, so was Cheetor&#039;s, and he didn&#039;t gain any nifty new power; you can say that she was technically dead when the process finished, but Dinobot was a cloned blank protoform with half a spark that&#039;s not even his own, Cheetor woas on death&#039;s doorstep himself, and Megatron was thrown into a lava bath and left for dead. Again, none of them gained any new powers. The only thing that logically fits here is her psychic link with Tarantulas, and considering how much he screwed with her mind, how can you say there was no trace of the link left in her head after it was severed?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 01:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::: I know I haven&#039;t seen BW in awhile, but I&#039;m pretty sure BA never had any magical healing factor (not as sure about Cheetor, though). Plus, it was never even implied that BA had telepathy. All that was from the mind link, which was entirely Tarantulas. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: First, Walky, both Cheetor and Dinobot had glow-effect tentacle healing powers; Dinobot was seen using it more actively and often than Cheetor, but Cheetor did use them to heal himself fully (if unknowingly) after he was almost slagged by his dip in the Transmetal driver. And the &#039;spidey-sense&#039; you&#039;re talking about? If you&#039;re thinking of him blasting Waspinator behind his back without even looking, that was just a &#039;cool trick&#039; (Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about the Pred a few seconds before he blasted him), and even if it wasn&#039;t, it&#039;s been shown in the first and possibly second season that Cheetor&#039;s dreams sometimes foretell future events, so his &#039;spidey-sense&#039; could just be an upgraded version of that power.&lt;br /&gt;
Second, BA never showed any healing powers before or after her transformation to TM2, but then again, she&#039;s rarely damaged to the point where she&#039;d need them, so she didn&#039;t really have a chance to use them. As for the link being all Tarantulas, it&#039;s true he initiated it, but again, it&#039;s been established that the link went both ways; BA mentioned in Other Visits that she could get inside Tarantulas&#039; head while the link was established, and gleaned a lot of information about the Tripredacus agent as a result, and both of them realized just how devastating BA&#039;s death would be to Tarantulas through the link in Tangled Web. Not only did Tarantulas feel BA&#039;s pain from her energon exposure through the link, but he also mentioned that if BA succeeded in committing suicide, it would feedback through the link and wipe him out, as well, hence BA&#039;s pleas to &amp;quot;save them both&amp;quot; by terminating the link. So, while Tarantulas created the link in the first place, it wasn&#039;t entirely one-sided, and no amount of mental torture would not leave any trace in the tortured party&#039;s mind.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 02:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:All of this is irrelevant to the fact that you&#039;re trying to push your own theories that aren&#039;t in the actual canon. If you see other cases of &amp;quot;fanon&amp;quot; in this wikia, then &#039;&#039;fix them&#039;&#039;. That fanon exists does not mean we should add &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; fanon. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 23:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excuse me? Who says they&#039;re &#039;&#039;my&#039;&#039; theories? As I said before, there was a discussion about this very same thing on Ben Yee&#039;s Transformers forum a while back (since deleted, unfortunately), and most people on there agreed with the theory. In fact, the Tarantulas/BA discussions on there hint constantly at their mind link and its relationship to her TM2 telekinesis, so this is &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; just my own personal pet belief. Fanon it may be, but I&#039;m completely shocked and disgusted that all of you are acting like I&#039;m the only one who&#039;s &amp;quot;dumb enough&amp;quot; to believe it, and it&#039;s &amp;quot;obvious&amp;quot; to anyone else that it&#039;s &#039;&#039;not true&#039;&#039;. That, personally, smacks of just as much personal bias as you seem to believe my posting this theory to have.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 07:21, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I think you&#039;re taking this WAY too personally. When it comes to Fannon the simple answer is it really doesn&#039;t belong here. If it&#039;s something widely and universally adopted it may get a mention but otherwise fan theories just have no place here. This fan theory is definately not widely adopted nor is it an unavoidably logical assumption, as evidenced by the fact that no one else here had ever heard of it or believes there&#039;s any real evidence to support it asside from the wildly ephemeral and circumstantial. Keep it in your personal fannon sure, but recognize it for what it is and let it go already.&lt;br /&gt;
::::I&#039;m taking it persnally, because of how it was treated on here: like it was some wild babbling of one fan trying to push his personal beliefs on a wiki, and that there&#039;s no possible way it could&#039;ve happened. Why do you think all my edits of it say that it was &#039;&#039;possible&#039;&#039; that it could&#039;ve happened, instaed of that it &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039;? Not saying that they aren&#039;t right, and it &#039;&#039;is&#039; just wild speculation (in fact, I emailed Mainframe to ask them about it directly just to put this debate to rest), but the main point of contention I have here, is that the mods seem to be so biased in their belief that there&#039;s no way it could possibly even hint to be true, even after the evidence is laid out, that they won&#039;t hear it. I even asked them for their explanation for how BA&#039;s telekinesis spontaneously developed, if not from her mind link with Tarantulas, and they essentially said &amp;quot;Uhhhh, we can&#039;t, but it definitely did&amp;quot;. They mentioned Dinobot&#039;s healing factor and Cheetor&#039;s &amp;quot;spider-sense&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;new powers&amp;quot; like BA&#039;s telekinesis; Cheetor showed those same healing powers during Feral Scream, and the techspecs for the TM2 line itself (trust me, I used to own the entire line) establishes it as being &#039;&#039;universal&#039;&#039; among TM2s, while Cheetor&#039;s been established to have somewhat-prophetic dreams earlier in the show (and, since Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about Waspinator moments before Cheetor shot him, it&#039;s likely it was more or less a &amp;quot;cool trick&amp;quot; to show off how the process changed him). The fact that all of the evidence is stacked against them, and they can&#039;t even come up with an adequate defense for their own pet theories, yet they act and pretty much demand that it&#039;s the only logical explanation is what&#039;s driving this personally to me, not my own theories being rejected. I understand that this is a wiki, and a wiki&#039;s for truth, which is why I haven&#039;t reposted the theory ever since I started posting on this discussion, but the mod&#039;s own theories have even less evidence to back it up than mine does, so what the hell?&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Transmutate (BW)</title>
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:&#039;&#039;Transmutate is an unaligned Transformer from the [[Beast Wars]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Transmutate.jpg|thumbnail|right|250px|MU-tilate. MU-tant. Hm. I wonder. Oh well.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Transmutate&#039;&#039;&#039; is a mutant Transformer, partially [[Transmetal]], born from a heavily-damaged [[stasis pod]]. The creature possesses very little intelligence and is utterly innocent in personality, curious and childlike.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, it also contains inconceivable destructive power (i.e. super-sonic screams and the ability to fly) to boot, making it extremely dangerous to keep unsupervised and uncontained. Though it has no alternate form, it does have the ability to fly.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Susan Blu]] (US), [[Haruna Ikezawa]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
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Both factions considered Transmutate to be too dangerous to recruit, and decided to do away with it, but by different means. This caused considerable concern for both [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]] and [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]]. Silverbolt felt it was a [[Maximal|Maximal&#039;s]] duty to protect all sentient life, and Rampage simply found a kindred spirit in Transmutate&#039;s tortured existence.&lt;br /&gt;
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Transmutate managed to befriend both Transformers, which caused some friction between them. Eventually, they came to blows. Transmutate sacrificed itself in order to prevent the two Transformers from killing each other.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Beast Wars===&lt;br /&gt;
Transmutate was never sold as an individual toy. Rather, it was only available with the first two waves of Beast Wars 10th Anniversary toys in 2006; each of the first six releases had a part to &amp;quot;Trans-Mutate&amp;quot; packaged with it. All six parts combined to form a non-transformable figure with limited articulation... but the simple fact that an official figure of a one-episode show character got &#039;&#039;made&#039;&#039; is itself an extraordinary occurrence.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Head - [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Torso - [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Waist &amp;amp; right leg - [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Left leg - [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*Left arm - [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* A minor point of argument among fans is exactly why the Maximals were so quick to stasis-lock Transmutate instead of transferring its spark to another body like Rhinox did with Optimus Primal following the latter&#039;s unintentional sacrifice; it was stated only her core consciousness and body structure was mutilated beyond recovery, but no mention was made about the condition of her spark. Of course, the euthanasia metaphor of the character&#039;s titular episode would fall apart if they did that, but hey, semantics.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Talk:Blackarachnia (BW)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;I question the placement of the BW Manga between the US BW and BM material.  We have been aligning most entries according to continuity, then series.  (See [[Hot Shot (UT)]], for example.  Cartoon:Armada, Energon, Cybertron; then Comic:Armada, Energon.)  That way, the summaries of stories flow logically and chronologically. I would probably prefer to move the BW Manga section after Universe.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed and done.  Why is Legends seperate?  Is it for the Armadqa tale?  is she even IN The Armada tale?  Or are was counting Furman&#039;s contribution as a seperate continuity?&lt;br /&gt;
In EITHER case, the banner &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; is an inaccurate container-continuity for the tales it contains, becase a character might appear in SEVERAL Legends tales, in multiple continuities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of Legends, I&#039;d say put the story/stories they appear in&#039;s title in italics as a header above the descriptive paragraph. - [[User: M Sipher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Japanese Voice actress==&lt;br /&gt;
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So I&#039;m looking at the decomposing corpse of TFPulp. http://web.archive.org/web/20041019195546/www.tfpulp.com/archive/seiyuu/seiyuu.html She&#039;s all the way down at the bottom.  Says Black Widow&#039;s voice actress was &amp;quot;Ryoka Yuzuki aka Kanori Kadomatsu aka Ayumi Nagashii&amp;quot;.  Ryoka Yuzuki would appear to be her real name.  Is the one listed, Iwata, another alias? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Fixed! [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 21:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia&#039;s Telekinesis and it&#039;s connection to Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m seriously getting tired of being accused of vandalism whenever I post that BA&#039;s TM2 telekinesis is likely a product of her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded. I&#039;ve been told repeatedly that it&#039;s an &#039;unsubstantiated rumor&#039;, but I&#039;ve seen similar theories about multiple entries in this site that have far less evidence to back them up than this has.&lt;br /&gt;
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While it&#039;s not stated directly, the evidence in-show obviously sets up the mind link as the source of the telekinesis: first, the link was stated as &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; in nature, not electronic or otherwise artificial, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any transmissions being made when the link was being used. It was also very powerful, and worked both ways; not only was Tarantulas able to speak through BA with it &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; cause her mental pain, but she also acquired a lot of information from his memories, information that she retained after the link was severed. Plus, when BA threatened to kill herself via energon radiation if the link wasn&#039;t terminated, her anguish was visibly shared through the link by Tarantulas, and even he noted that, if BA &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; terminate herself, the link would&#039;ve ensured his death, as well. There&#039;s also the debatable scene where Tarantulas forces himself inside BA&#039;s head after he&#039;s burned by Inferno, and had to download himself into his new TM body &#039;&#039;from BA&#039;s noggin&#039;&#039;, which could meaning that the link was established by his &#039;&#039;literally inhabiting her mind&#039;&#039;. Oh, and besides mutant spark-aided healing, I don&#039;t recall the show &#039;&#039;ever&#039;&#039; stating that the TM2 process granted a Transformer brand new abilities that they didn&#039;t have before, just upgrades to what they already had, meaning that the potential for BA&#039;s telekinesis had to already be there to begin with, and since BA was never even hinted at having the required mental faculties for psychokinesis, even before the mind-link, where else &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; she get it from?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, it&#039;s a theory, but it&#039;s a theory blatantly supported by the cartoon. Her eyes even glow the same color as when Tarantulas gained control of her during the link when she levitated the girder to dispatch Rampage, for crying out loud. If that doesn&#039;t solidify the &amp;quot;spider mindmeld alien upgrade&amp;quot; theory, then I dunno what does.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In no way is either telepathy or telekinesis a &amp;quot;powered up&amp;quot; version of the other.  They are totally unrelated abilities aside from both being brain things.  Precognition, clairvoyance, astral projection, etc., are also &amp;quot;psychic&amp;quot; brain things, but that doesn&#039;t mean they are related.  Honestly, until Derik posted to my talk page about it saying, &amp;quot;they are both psychic abilities&amp;quot;, I seriously had no idea why you would think they were connected.  There are *tons* of types of psychic ability.  All of the evidence you cite, other than the eye glow thing which might have something to it, is merely &#039;&#039;consistent with&#039;&#039; your theory; it doesn&#039;t &#039;&#039;support&#039;&#039; you.  All the same evidence is also consistent with her telekinesis having nothing to do with Tarantulas.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Regarding eye-glow: Several characters over the course of the series had their eyes glow for various reasons.  I don&#039;t recall what colors were used for these various effects.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if unrelated instances of glowing eyes happened to use the same color from time to time, but admittedly I don&#039;t know that offhand.&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he said. And, as far as eye-glow is concerned, I&#039;m WAY more inclined to chalk it up to &amp;quot;Mainframe knew how to do that effect&amp;quot; than them making some kind of conscious reference to an unrelated event practically a full season back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Which other Transformers were confirmed to have actual psychic abilities, especially in Beast Wars? Besides, the link not only allowed BA and Tarantulas to communicate telepathically, but it also allowed Tarantulas to TAKE OVER HER BODY and INFLICT PAIN ON HER PSYCHICALLY, neither of which are generally accepted as being strictly telepathic abilities. Plus, read any kind of fiction that includes psychic abilities, and you&#039;ll almost always see a telepath manifest telekinetic abilities of some form. It also makes far more sense than say...Primacron&#039;s Oracle assistant being THE Oracle of Beast Machines (which also has no evidence to support it, yet it&#039;s allowed in Primacron Oracle&#039;s article). Essentailly, all you&#039;re saying is Mainframe is too stupid to make self references of past subplots, which is interesting considering how they touched up on Tigatron and Airazor&#039;s abduction, the fate of Sentinel, BA&#039;s shell program, Tarantulas&#039; hatred for the Vok...need I go on? Honestly, do you guys even watch the media whose wikis you monitor?&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Dude, I&#039;ve seen Beast Wars more times than I can count.  I have it memorized.  No where was it remotely implied that Blackarachnia got telekinesis powers from having a mind-link with somebody else.  Those aren&#039;t even the same power!  Telekinetics and telepaths are two completely different things!  And please stop insulting people.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Didn&#039;t one of the BotCon comics retcon the Oracle as being the assistant? I&#039;m not sure of that. And typically, when we have fannon in an article, it is 1. in the trivia section, 2, is in it&#039;s own paragraph seperate from the cannon, and 3. is clearly stated as such. And even then, it&#039;s only included if it was notable in the fandom (aka, who was Dion built into, is Brawn dead or alive, who became Cyclonus, Scourge, and the Sweeps, etc. This is the only long discussion on this topic I&#039;ve seen, ans you seem to be the only one who insists the two abilities are linked. Yes, you can say the fiction doesn&#039;t contridict it, but you can claim the same thing about Alpha Trion being a pimp before the rebellion against the Quintessons. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::BotCon comics never mentioned the G1 Oracle, I&#039;m pretty sure.  (Its name is known only from the script, so I wouldn&#039;t expect that sort of thing to show up.)  Regardless, I&#039;ve removed that bit from that page&#039;s trivia section.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2? As I said before, there&#039;s nothing stated in the show that says that the process gives the Transformer new powers besides the spark-healing. In fact, beyond Blackarachnia, NONE of the TM2s in the show gained new abilities from the driver. Telekinesis is different from telepathy, fine, but as I explained, the mind link between BA and Tarantulas was NOT just merely telepathy; if it was, he shouldn&#039;t have been able to control her body, nor inflict pain on her. In fact, the moment he was restored to his original body, BA tried to shoot him, and what does he do? Force her mentally to turn her gun to her own head. That&#039;s not telepathy, now is it? It&#039;s just assumed to me &#039;mere&#039; telepathy, because that&#039;s for the most part what Tarantulas used it for: seeing and knowing whatever BA saw and knew.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 00:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::&amp;quot;What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2?&amp;quot;  Uh, yeah.  I think that&#039;s obvious.  That was sort of the deal.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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66.233.183.59, you seem to be taking this all really personally.  We are not saying that &amp;quot;Mainframe is too stupid&amp;quot; to have referenced a past episode.  We are saying that in this particular case we don&#039;t think they were doing so.&lt;br /&gt;
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Controlling somebody&#039;s body and causing them to feel pain are MOST DEFINITELY applications of telepathy as portrayed in many works of fiction.  Both come about through manipulating the victom&#039;s mind, not by applying force to the limbs.  The only story I can think of offhand where telekinesis is considered to be something &amp;quot;beyond&amp;quot; but connected to telepathy is &#039;&#039;Babylon 5&#039;&#039;, and even in that series, telepaths with no teke inflicted pain and mind-control on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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You are right, there is no &amp;quot;other&amp;quot; explanation for where her powers came from. There is also no explanation for where the Transmetal Driver came from in the first place, how it brought her back from the dead, or why it made Cheetor go Jeckyll/Hyde.  This doesn&#039;t mean that just because some idea some people discussed *can* fit the canon that it is *supported* by the canon.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you see instances of fanon where it doesn&#039;t belong on this Wiki, please edit it, or at the very least comment about it on the relevant talk page.  As with any Wiki, there is going to be some inaccurate stuff here and there.  A lot of us monitor the &amp;quot;recent changes&amp;quot; page, especially for edits by anonymous users, which is why so many people have been reverting your edits to this article.  There is still plenty of opportunity, though, for mistakes to find their way in.  Just because you see something on a page doesn&#039;t mean that we all unanimously agree with it.  It could even be that content which directly contradicts our policies i around someplace and nobody has noticed it yet.  We&#039;d all appreciate your help in seeking out that sort of thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::After none of the other TM2s in the show gained any such spontaneous abilities?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::...but they did!  I&#039;m starting to wonder who really hasn&#039;t watched the show, here.  Dinobot had magical healing factor.  Cheetor had Spidey-sense.  And they all used the same crazy glow-effect tentacles.  TM2s had special mutant powers.  It was their deal, as I said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Unlikely. I&#039;m sorry, but &amp;quot;a wizard did it&amp;quot; just isn&#039;t flying with me, especially considering how much of a freak accident it would have to be in order for it to work. Did Cheetor gain the ability to teleport, for instance, or Dinobot the power to slow time? No, they did not; aside from the spark-healing (which seems to be pretty universal for all Transmetal 2&#039;s), any powers they gained were mere upgrades to whatever they had before; Cheetor could run faster and &#039;air dash&#039; like his original Transmetal form, while DInobot had a laser-firing eyepiece and razor-sharp melee weapons. If you consider them TM2&#039;s, only Tigerhawk gained any &#039;new&#039; powers, due to direct Vok influence and not the modified driver; Megatron gained the ability to fly and shoot things from his gun/head hand. Again, nothing new there. So why is it that only Blackarachnia gained a power that&#039;s not only completely new, but according to you not even remotely related to her in the least? The psychic link theory is more feasible to me, because of the consistency it has with all of the other showings of what a TM2 gains in the show: greatly heightened versions of their existing powers. You can argue that the process was unfinished, but then again, so was Cheetor&#039;s, and he didn&#039;t gain any nifty new power; you can say that she was technically dead when the process finished, but Dinobot was a cloned blank protoform with half a spark that&#039;s not even his own, Cheetor woas on death&#039;s doorstep himself, and Megatron was thrown into a lava bath and left for dead. Again, none of them gained any new powers. The only thing that logically fits here is her psychic link with Tarantulas, and considering how much he screwed with her mind, how can you say there was no trace of the link left in her head after it was severed?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 01:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::: I know I haven&#039;t seen BW in awhile, but I&#039;m pretty sure BA never had any magical healing factor (not as sure about Cheetor, though). Plus, it was never even implied that BA had telepathy. All that was from the mind link, which was entirely Tarantulas. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: First, Walky, both Cheetor and Dinobot had glow-effect tentacle healing powers; Dinobot was seen using it more actively and often than Cheetor, but Cheetor did use them to heal himself fully (if unknowingly) after he was almost slagged by his dip in the Transmetal driver. And the &#039;spidey-sense&#039; you&#039;re talking about? If you&#039;re thinking of him blasting Waspinator behind his back without even looking, that was just a &#039;cool trick&#039; (Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about the Pred a few seconds before he blasted him), and even if it wasn&#039;t, it&#039;s been shown in the first and possibly second season that Cheetor&#039;s dreams sometimes foretell future events, so his &#039;spidey-sense&#039; could just be an upgraded version of that power.&lt;br /&gt;
Second, BA never showed any healing powers before or after her transformation to TM2, but then again, she&#039;s rarely damaged to the point where she&#039;d need them, so she didn&#039;t really have a chance to use them. As for the link being all Tarantulas, it&#039;s true he initiated it, but again, it&#039;s been established that the link went both ways; BA mentioned in Other Visits that she could get inside Tarantulas&#039; head while the link was established, and gleaned a lot of information about the Tripredacus agent as a result, and both of them realized just how devastating BA&#039;s death would be to Tarantulas through the link in Tangled Web. Not only did Tarantulas feel BA&#039;s pain from her energon exposure through the link, but he also mentioned that if BA succeeded in committing suicide, it would feedback through the link and wipe him out, as well, hence BA&#039;s pleas to &amp;quot;save them both&amp;quot; by terminating the link. So, while Tarantulas created the link in the first place, it wasn&#039;t entirely one-sided, and no amount of mental torture would not leave any trace in the tortured party&#039;s mind.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 02:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:All of this is irrelevant to the fact that you&#039;re trying to push your own theories that aren&#039;t in the actual canon. If you see other cases of &amp;quot;fanon&amp;quot; in this wikia, then &#039;&#039;fix them&#039;&#039;. That fanon exists does not mean we should add &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; fanon. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 23:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Excuse me? Who says they&#039;re &#039;&#039;my&#039;&#039; theories? As I said before, there was a discussion about this very same thing on Ben Yee&#039;s Transformers forum a while back (since deleted, unfortunately), and most people on there agreed with the theory. In fact, the Tarantulas/BA discussions on there hint constantly at their mind link and its relationship to her TM2 telekinesis, so this is &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; just my own personal pet belief. Fanon it may be, but I&#039;m completely shocked and disgusted that all of you are acting like I&#039;m the only one who&#039;s &amp;quot;dumb enough&amp;quot; to believe it, and it&#039;s &amp;quot;obvious&amp;quot; to anyone else that it&#039;s &#039;&#039;not true&#039;&#039;. That, personally, smacks of just as much personal bias as you seem to believe my posting this theory to have.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 07:21, 3 May 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Blackarachnia (BW)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;66.233.183.59: /* Blackarachnia&amp;#039;s Telekinesis and it&amp;#039;s connection to Tarantulas */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I question the placement of the BW Manga between the US BW and BM material.  We have been aligning most entries according to continuity, then series.  (See [[Hot Shot (UT)]], for example.  Cartoon:Armada, Energon, Cybertron; then Comic:Armada, Energon.)  That way, the summaries of stories flow logically and chronologically. I would probably prefer to move the BW Manga section after Universe.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed and done.  Why is Legends seperate?  Is it for the Armadqa tale?  is she even IN The Armada tale?  Or are was counting Furman&#039;s contribution as a seperate continuity?&lt;br /&gt;
In EITHER case, the banner &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; is an inaccurate container-continuity for the tales it contains, becase a character might appear in SEVERAL Legends tales, in multiple continuities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of Legends, I&#039;d say put the story/stories they appear in&#039;s title in italics as a header above the descriptive paragraph. - [[User: M Sipher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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So I&#039;m looking at the decomposing corpse of TFPulp. http://web.archive.org/web/20041019195546/www.tfpulp.com/archive/seiyuu/seiyuu.html She&#039;s all the way down at the bottom.  Says Black Widow&#039;s voice actress was &amp;quot;Ryoka Yuzuki aka Kanori Kadomatsu aka Ayumi Nagashii&amp;quot;.  Ryoka Yuzuki would appear to be her real name.  Is the one listed, Iwata, another alias? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia&#039;s Telekinesis and it&#039;s connection to Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m seriously getting tired of being accused of vandalism whenever I post that BA&#039;s TM2 telekinesis is likely a product of her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded. I&#039;ve been told repeatedly that it&#039;s an &#039;unsubstantiated rumor&#039;, but I&#039;ve seen similar theories about multiple entries in this site that have far less evidence to back them up than this has.&lt;br /&gt;
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While it&#039;s not stated directly, the evidence in-show obviously sets up the mind link as the source of the telekinesis: first, the link was stated as &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; in nature, not electronic or otherwise artificial, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any transmissions being made when the link was being used. It was also very powerful, and worked both ways; not only was Tarantulas able to speak through BA with it &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; cause her mental pain, but she also acquired a lot of information from his memories, information that she retained after the link was severed. Plus, when BA threatened to kill herself via energon radiation if the link wasn&#039;t terminated, her anguish was visibly shared through the link by Tarantulas, and even he noted that, if BA &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; terminate herself, the link would&#039;ve ensured his death, as well. There&#039;s also the debatable scene where Tarantulas forces himself inside BA&#039;s head after he&#039;s burned by Inferno, and had to download himself into his new TM body &#039;&#039;from BA&#039;s noggin&#039;&#039;, which could meaning that the link was established by his &#039;&#039;literally inhabiting her mind&#039;&#039;. Oh, and besides mutant spark-aided healing, I don&#039;t recall the show &#039;&#039;ever&#039;&#039; stating that the TM2 process granted a Transformer brand new abilities that they didn&#039;t have before, just upgrades to what they already had, meaning that the potential for BA&#039;s telekinesis had to already be there to begin with, and since BA was never even hinted at having the required mental faculties for psychokinesis, even before the mind-link, where else &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; she get it from?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, it&#039;s a theory, but it&#039;s a theory blatantly supported by the cartoon. Her eyes even glow the same color as when Tarantulas gained control of her during the link when she levitated the girder to dispatch Rampage, for crying out loud. If that doesn&#039;t solidify the &amp;quot;spider mindmeld alien upgrade&amp;quot; theory, then I dunno what does.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In no way is either telepathy or telekinesis a &amp;quot;powered up&amp;quot; version of the other.  They are totally unrelated abilities aside from both being brain things.  Precognition, clairvoyance, astral projection, etc., are also &amp;quot;psychic&amp;quot; brain things, but that doesn&#039;t mean they are related.  Honestly, until Derik posted to my talk page about it saying, &amp;quot;they are both psychic abilities&amp;quot;, I seriously had no idea why you would think they were connected.  There are *tons* of types of psychic ability.  All of the evidence you cite, other than the eye glow thing which might have something to it, is merely &#039;&#039;consistent with&#039;&#039; your theory; it doesn&#039;t &#039;&#039;support&#039;&#039; you.  All the same evidence is also consistent with her telekinesis having nothing to do with Tarantulas.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Regarding eye-glow: Several characters over the course of the series had their eyes glow for various reasons.  I don&#039;t recall what colors were used for these various effects.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if unrelated instances of glowing eyes happened to use the same color from time to time, but admittedly I don&#039;t know that offhand.&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he said. And, as far as eye-glow is concerned, I&#039;m WAY more inclined to chalk it up to &amp;quot;Mainframe knew how to do that effect&amp;quot; than them making some kind of conscious reference to an unrelated event practically a full season back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Which other Transformers were confirmed to have actual psychic abilities, especially in Beast Wars? Besides, the link not only allowed BA and Tarantulas to communicate telepathically, but it also allowed Tarantulas to TAKE OVER HER BODY and INFLICT PAIN ON HER PSYCHICALLY, neither of which are generally accepted as being strictly telepathic abilities. Plus, read any kind of fiction that includes psychic abilities, and you&#039;ll almost always see a telepath manifest telekinetic abilities of some form. It also makes far more sense than say...Primacron&#039;s Oracle assistant being THE Oracle of Beast Machines (which also has no evidence to support it, yet it&#039;s allowed in Primacron Oracle&#039;s article). Essentailly, all you&#039;re saying is Mainframe is too stupid to make self references of past subplots, which is interesting considering how they touched up on Tigatron and Airazor&#039;s abduction, the fate of Sentinel, BA&#039;s shell program, Tarantulas&#039; hatred for the Vok...need I go on? Honestly, do you guys even watch the media whose wikis you monitor?&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Dude, I&#039;ve seen Beast Wars more times than I can count.  I have it memorized.  No where was it remotely implied that Blackarachnia got telekinesis powers from having a mind-link with somebody else.  Those aren&#039;t even the same power!  Telekinetics and telepaths are two completely different things!  And please stop insulting people.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Didn&#039;t one of the BotCon comics retcon the Oracle as being the assistant? I&#039;m not sure of that. And typically, when we have fannon in an article, it is 1. in the trivia section, 2, is in it&#039;s own paragraph seperate from the cannon, and 3. is clearly stated as such. And even then, it&#039;s only included if it was notable in the fandom (aka, who was Dion built into, is Brawn dead or alive, who became Cyclonus, Scourge, and the Sweeps, etc. This is the only long discussion on this topic I&#039;ve seen, ans you seem to be the only one who insists the two abilities are linked. Yes, you can say the fiction doesn&#039;t contridict it, but you can claim the same thing about Alpha Trion being a pimp before the rebellion against the Quintessons. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::BotCon comics never mentioned the G1 Oracle, I&#039;m pretty sure.  (Its name is known only from the script, so I wouldn&#039;t expect that sort of thing to show up.)  Regardless, I&#039;ve removed that bit from that page&#039;s trivia section.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2? As I said before, there&#039;s nothing stated in the show that says that the process gives the Transformer new powers besides the spark-healing. In fact, beyond Blackarachnia, NONE of the TM2s in the show gained new abilities from the driver. Telekinesis is different from telepathy, fine, but as I explained, the mind link between BA and Tarantulas was NOT just merely telepathy; if it was, he shouldn&#039;t have been able to control her body, nor inflict pain on her. In fact, the moment he was restored to his original body, BA tried to shoot him, and what does he do? Force her mentally to turn her gun to her own head. That&#039;s not telepathy, now is it? It&#039;s just assumed to me &#039;mere&#039; telepathy, because that&#039;s for the most part what Tarantulas used it for: seeing and knowing whatever BA saw and knew.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 00:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::&amp;quot;What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2?&amp;quot;  Uh, yeah.  I think that&#039;s obvious.  That was sort of the deal.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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66.233.183.59, you seem to be taking this all really personally.  We are not saying that &amp;quot;Mainframe is too stupid&amp;quot; to have referenced a past episode.  We are saying that in this particular case we don&#039;t think they were doing so.&lt;br /&gt;
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Controlling somebody&#039;s body and causing them to feel pain are MOST DEFINITELY applications of telepathy as portrayed in many works of fiction.  Both come about through manipulating the victom&#039;s mind, not by applying force to the limbs.  The only story I can think of offhand where telekinesis is considered to be something &amp;quot;beyond&amp;quot; but connected to telepathy is &#039;&#039;Babylon 5&#039;&#039;, and even in that series, telepaths with no teke inflicted pain and mind-control on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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You are right, there is no &amp;quot;other&amp;quot; explanation for where her powers came from. There is also no explanation for where the Transmetal Driver came from in the first place, how it brought her back from the dead, or why it made Cheetor go Jeckyll/Hyde.  This doesn&#039;t mean that just because some idea some people discussed *can* fit the canon that it is *supported* by the canon.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::After none of the other TM2s in the show gained any such spontaneous abilities?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::...but they did!  I&#039;m starting to wonder who really hasn&#039;t watched the show, here.  Dinobot had magical healing factor.  Cheetor had Spidey-sense.  And they all used the same crazy glow-effect tentacles.  TM2s had special mutant powers.  It was their deal, as I said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Unlikely. I&#039;m sorry, but &amp;quot;a wizard did it&amp;quot; just isn&#039;t flying with me, especially considering how much of a freak accident it would have to be in order for it to work. Did Cheetor gain the ability to teleport, for instance, or Dinobot the power to slow time? No, they did not; aside from the spark-healing (which seems to be pretty universal for all Transmetal 2&#039;s), any powers they gained were mere upgrades to whatever they had before; Cheetor could run faster and &#039;air dash&#039; like his original Transmetal form, while DInobot had a laser-firing eyepiece and razor-sharp melee weapons. If you consider them TM2&#039;s, only Tigerhawk gained any &#039;new&#039; powers, due to direct Vok influence and not the modified driver; Megatron gained the ability to fly and shoot things from his gun/head hand. Again, nothing new there. So why is it that only Blackarachnia gained a power that&#039;s not only completely new, but according to you not even remotely related to her in the least? The psychic link theory is more feasible to me, because of the consistency it has with all of the other showings of what a TM2 gains in the show: greatly heightened versions of their existing powers. You can argue that the process was unfinished, but then again, so was Cheetor&#039;s, and he didn&#039;t gain any nifty new power; you can say that she was technically dead when the process finished, but Dinobot was a cloned blank protoform with half a spark that&#039;s not even his own, Cheetor woas on death&#039;s doorstep himself, and Megatron was thrown into a lava bath and left for dead. Again, none of them gained any new powers. The only thing that logically fits here is her psychic link with Tarantulas, and considering how much he screwed with her mind, how can you say there was no trace of the link left in her head after it was severed?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 01:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::: I know I haven&#039;t seen BW in awhile, but I&#039;m pretty sure BA never had any magical healing factor (not as sure about Cheetor, though). Plus, it was never even implied that BA had telepathy. All that was from the mind link, which was entirely Tarantulas. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: First, Walky, both Cheetor and Dinobot had glow-effect tentacle healing powers; Dinobot was seen using it more actively and often than Cheetor, but Cheetor did use them to heal himself fully (if unknowingly) after he was almost slagged by his dip in the Transmetal driver. And the &#039;spidey-sense&#039; you&#039;re talking about? If you&#039;re thinking of him blasting Waspinator behind his back without even looking, that was just a &#039;cool trick&#039; (Optimus &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; warn him about the Pred a few seconds before he blasted him), and even if it wasn&#039;t, it&#039;s been shown in the first and possibly second season that Cheetor&#039;s dreams sometimes foretell future events, so his &#039;spidey-sense&#039; could just be an upgraded version of that power.&lt;br /&gt;
Second, BA never showed any healing powers before or after her transformation to TM2, but then again, she&#039;s rarely damaged to the point where she&#039;d need them, so she didn&#039;t really have a chance to use them. As for the link being all Tarantulas, it&#039;s true he initiated it, but again, it&#039;s been established that the link went both ways; BA mentioned in Other Visits that she could get inside Tarantulas&#039; head while the link was established, and gleaned a lot of information about the Tripredacus agent as a result, and both of them realized just how devastating BA&#039;s death would be to Tarantulas through the link in Tangled Web. Not only did Tarantulas feel BA&#039;s pain from her energon exposure through the link, but he also mentioned that if BA succeeded in committing suicide, it would feedback through the link and wipe him out, as well, hence BA&#039;s pleas to &amp;quot;save them both&amp;quot; by terminating the link. So, while Tarantulas created the link in the first place, it wasn&#039;t entirely one-sided, and no amount of mental torture would not leave any trace in the tortured party&#039;s mind.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 02:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Ginrai (human)</title>
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:&#039;&#039;Ginrai is a human and [[Autobot]] [[Godmaster]] in the [[Masterforce]] portion of [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;[[Image:Ginrai comb1.gif|thumb|250px|&amp;quot;Hair this perfect doesn&#039;t just &#039;&#039;&#039;happen!&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Born in Nagano, [[Japan]], &#039;&#039;&#039;Ginrai&#039;&#039;&#039;  found the country&#039;s atmosphere stifling for most his early life, and left for the [[United States]] at age seventeen to find himself. He took a job as a long-haul truck driver for [[Union Transportation]], which offered him the freedom and solitude of the open road. His easy-going personality earned him many friends amongst his &amp;quot;brothers&amp;quot; in the trucker fraternity.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;RTM dub name: &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Masterforce&#039;&#039; animated series===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ginraiarmor.jpg|thumb|left|It rides up the crotch.]]&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Hiroshi Takemura]] (Japanese)&lt;br /&gt;
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The story that would bring Ginrai into contact with the Transformers began an indeterminate number of years ago, when the super-energy alien being and self-styled &amp;quot;Decepticon god&amp;quot; [[Devil Z]] stole several [[Transtector]]s - including one intended to be used by the legendary Autobot leader [[Optimus Prime]] - from an area of space known as the [[G Nebula]]. Already filled with the [[Chokon Power|Tenchokon]] of the nebula, the Transtectors were then scattered across the Earth by Devil Z, that they might absorb the planet&#039;s [[Chokon Power|Chichokon]]. Devil Z planned to have human beings bond to the Transtectors, adding their inherent [[Chokon Power|Jinchokon]] to the equation, thereby creating a new super-robotic lifeform - [[Godmaster]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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Through undivulged circumstances, the Transtector intended for Prime assumed the form of a red tractor trailer cab, and came to rest in a small garage in California. The unwitting [[garage owner (Masterforce)|garage owner]] rented the cab to several truckers, but always found it returned early, with complaints of unusual, even supernatural, incidents.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:250px-Ginrai_tf.jpg|thumb|right|Prime? Never heard of him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Two years after coming to America, Ginrai happened to be transporting an ill dolphin to the Ocean Research Institue of California, run - unbeknownst to him - by the Autobot [[Pretender]] [[Diver]]. Destiny stepped in when Ginrai&#039;s truck broke down on the way, and he pulled in at this very garage, where the owner rented him the Transtector to complete his delivery. In the glove box of the cab, he discovered a pair of [[Master-Braces]] and slipped them on his wrists, only to discover that he was unable to remove them. When Diver laid eyes upon the bracelets, he recognised the basic design of them, and insisted that Ginrai take him back to the garage where he had found the truck. On the way, however, they were attacked by the Decepticon Godmaster brothers [[Hydra and Buster]], who forced the truck off a cliff. Accidentally touching the bracelets as he attempted to escape the crushed cab, Ginrai was infused with the Masterforce and a suit of armor materialised around him, healing both himself and the Transtector, as they combined and transformed. Now a Godmaster himself, Ginrai saw the shocked Decepticon off. {{Storylink|The Hero is Chosen, and His Name is Ginrai!|MF ep 10}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Ginrai was at first unsure of what to make of his new powers, and was not entirely keen on joining the Autobots, as the notion of operating as part of a command structure, and being tied down to a specific place ran directly counter to his desire for freedom in his life. Although he promised to aid them when necessary &amp;quot;for the sake of the world&amp;quot; - a mantra that he admitted he had a weakness for - he soon bore witness to the true evil of the Decepticons when Hydra and Buster killed several of his fellow truckers while searching for him. Ginrai was still, however, not entirely willing to join the Autobots, but fate kept on pushing him to do so - he soon suffered a prophetic dream, after which he discovered three more pairs of Master-Braces in his Transtector, indicating the presence of more Godmasters on Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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When Ginrai brought the bracelets to Japan for study at the Autobot base, events began to escalate as Transtector activated on its own, transporting Ginrai to his birthplace of Nagano, or more specifically, a construction site at the base of Mount Yatsugatake there. Blasting for a tunnel through the mountain had been blocked by a mysterious object, which proved to be a trailer for Ginrai&#039;s truck, which burst from the tunnel during another battle with [[Hydra and Buster|Buster and Hydra]]. Later still, the two brothers lured Ginrai into a public battle that they might blame the conflict on him, and turn public opinion against the Autobots; the plan was failed, but a friend of Ginrai&#039;s offered the suggestion that his becoming a Godmaster was the will of God himself.   &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:180px-Super ginrai.jpg|thumb|left|A bird? A Plane? No, it&#039;s Super Ginrai.]]Not long thereafter, in a battle with [[King Poseidon]], Ginrai discovered that his cab and trailer were capable of performing a &amp;quot;Double On,&amp;quot; merging together to create the super-robot, &amp;quot;Super Ginrai.&amp;quot; Additionally, after appearing on TV in hopes of locating the remaining three Godmasters, to whom he would give the Master-Braces, Ginrai successfully located Lightfoot, Ranger and Road King, and recruited them to the Autobot side. With this success, the Autobot leader [[Metalhawk]] stepped down as commander and requested that Ginrai take his place. After some deliberation, and much hassling from the other Autobot Pretenders, who wouldn&#039;t let him say no, Ginrai accepted.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:God_ginrai.jpg|thumb|right|Ginrai, when somebody asks you if you&#039;re a God, you say YES!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When [[Grand Maximus]] arrived on Earth to inform Ginrai&#039;s Autobots of the impending arrival of the Decepticon super-weapon, [[Scorponok (G1)|BlackZarak]], he provided them with the schematics necessary to create the drone, [[Godbomber]]. Metalhawk and the Pretenders raced to finish the construction of Godbomber, but as the so-called &amp;quot;Bomber Project&amp;quot; neared completion, Ginrai was lured into the desert by a disguised Buster and Hydra (under the auspices of performing some stunt driving for a movie), and was attacked and resoundingly defeated by the Decepticon Ambassador of Destruction, [[Overlord]]. Following a failed attack on the Bomber Project facility, the barely-healed Ginrai insisted upon taking the fight to the Decepticons, combining with the completed Godbomber to form &amp;quot;God Ginrai.&amp;quot; In his new form, Ginrai confroned Overlord and BlackZarak on the moon, where he fully embraced his role as protector of Earth, and defeated the Decepticons with the aid of Grand Maximus.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some time later, BlackZarak was able to return to Earth and merge with Devil Z, forcing the Autobots into a series of battle to protect countries all around the Earth. Tracking the villains to the Matterhorn, God Ginrai was forced into a final battle with the hybrid entity atop the mountain and succeeded in decapitating the villain, but BlackZarak then assumed a new hydra alternate mode, which God Ginrai destroyed with his God Fire Guts attack. His powers boosted by the [[Headmaster Junior]]s God Ginrai then executed the almighty Final Fire Guts attack, destroying Devil Z.&lt;br /&gt;
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With Devil Z&#039;s death, the bonding between Transtector and human that he had engineered ceased to exist, and Ginrai and the other humans were separated from their Transtectors. The Transtectors, however, had been evolved through their partnership with the humans, and continued to exist as true super-robot life forms. Having imprinted his human partner&#039;s personality, Ginrai&#039;s Transtector departed for space to pursue the surviving Decepticons and rejoin the greater war.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Masterforce&#039;&#039; manga===&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;Masterforce&#039;&#039; manga forgoes re-telling Ginrai&#039;s origins, simply indicating that he exists, then introducing him in the midst of a battle with Buster and Hydra. Similarly, the other Autobot Godmasters are introduced in such a manner, although here, their creation comes &#039;&#039;before&#039;&#039; Ginrai&#039;s acquisition of his trailer, and they present it to him at an opportune moment. The most notable moment for Ginrai in the manga comes when he and the Autobots are taken to the planet [[Athenia]] by the [[Trainbot]]s, and Ginrai succeeds [[Fortress Maximus|Fortress]] as [[Supreme Commander]] of the Autobots, a rank there is no indication he attains in the anime.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Victory&#039;&#039; animated series===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Ginrai Transtector - now having taken its human partner&#039;s name as its own, becoming known as Ginrai itself - joined with the Autobot forces in space, where he became good friends with [[Star Saber (G1)|Star Saber]] and his adopted human son, [[Jan Minakaze]]. Before long, Star Saber was appointed Supreme Commander of the Autobots, while Ginrai became commander of the Defense Force for Space Sector Two. Operating out of a base in the G Nebula, Ginrai&#039;s time was occupied battling the Decepticon forces under Overlord&#039;s control, so much so that Star Saber occasionally had to respond to emergencies in Sector Two, such as a [[Breastforce]] attack on planet [[Micro]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Feeling guilty over taking up Star Saber&#039;s time in such a manner, Ginrai was quick to come to his aid when he was lured into a trap on Earth by Decepticon [[Emperor of Destruction]] [[Deathsaurus]]. Confronting Deathsaurus in battle, Ginrai was struck by a blast from the villain&#039;s Living-Metal-Destroying Cannon and badly damaged. Despite the best medical efforts of [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], and [[Minerva]] Ginrai&#039;s body was left useless and immobile. Due to a slip by Perceptor, however, he learned of the existence of a reconstruction process conceived by Star Saber that would allow him to become a power-up for the Autobot leader. Star Saber refused to allow him to submit to the process, revolted at the notion of using his close friend&#039;s body in such a way, but Ginrai insisted. Perceptor and Wheeljack brought his life functions to an end, and then restored him to Star Saber&#039;s specifications as [[Victory Leo]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Generation 1===&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Super Ginrai&#039;&#039;&#039; (1988)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;C-307&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:A remoulded version of the American Powermaster Optimus Prime figure, Ginrai is a red, blue and grey tractor trailer, only able to transform into robot mode when the small Ginrai human figure is put into engine mode and snapped into place in the truck&#039;s grill, unlocking the clasp that holds the legs in place. When the cab is in robot mode, the trailer can become a battle station; either robot or station can be armed with any of the toy&#039;s weapons, including two black guns and two grey double-barrelled &amp;quot;cannon craft,&amp;quot; which can be piloted by the small Godmaster figures. The two components can be merged into &amp;quot;Super Ginrai&amp;quot;, whose head is a separate piece, and could go on to combine with the separately-sold Godbomber to become God Ginrai.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Differences between Powermaster Optimus Prime and Ginrai include a die-cast metal cab with translucent blue plastic windows, shortened smokestacks, a more metallic grey plastic, chrome on the Godmaster Ginrai engine, and silver paint rather than stickers for the small robot&#039;s upper legs. Only in the reissue are there blue eyes for the small Ginrai robot.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;God Ginrai&#039;&#039;&#039; (1988)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;C-310&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Super Ginrai was also sold in a giftset with Godbomber, who could disassemble his parts and combine with Super Ginrai to form God Ginrai. Godbomber&#039;s legs became boots, to which the Ginrai&#039;s grey cannons attached, his chest and wings formed a backpack, while his arms clipped over the top of Ginrai&#039;s own, and his back became a chromed chestplate, to the top of which the his spring-loaded &amp;quot;God Cannon&amp;quot; plugged.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;God Ginrai (reissue)&#039;&#039;&#039; (2002)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The God Ginrai giftset was reissued in Japan in 2002 with blue eyes for the small Ginrai robot and a slighty different shade of red paint on the cab. It was, however, notoriously over-produced, and retailers were still selling it some time later at greatly reduced prices.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Fire Guts God Ginrai&#039;&#039;&#039; (eHobby exclusive, 2002)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Released to coincide with the 2002 reissue, this redeco of the God Ginrai gifset cast the Autobot leader in reds and oranges, representing Ginrai using his &amp;quot;God Fire Guts&amp;quot; attack from the animated series. It was limited to 1600 pieces.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* The human Ginrai&#039;s appearance is designed after screen actor Ishihara Yūjirō.&lt;br /&gt;
* Despite orders from Takara to Hasbro to be made as Optimus Prime, what would eventually become [[Kiss Players]] Optimus was originally announced as the [[Binaltech]] version of Ginrai. Unfortunately, the figure&#039;s release was delayed for a number of months before being canceled altogether. Unfortunate, because not only does Japan have to accept the Optimus figure with a creepy little girl, but a Kiss Players Masterforce figure would be disturbingly ironic.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Alternators&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is a line of Transformers that started in late 2003. The toys in this series transform into fully-licensed, 1:24-scale accurate representations of real cars from automobile manufacturers around the globe, complete with opening doors, hoods, trunks, plus &amp;quot;realistic&amp;quot; open driver/passenger compartments.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alternators==&lt;br /&gt;
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The future of &#039;&#039;Alternators&#039;&#039; is highly questionable right now. After [[Rumble]] and [[Ravage]] are released in early 2007, the line is going on &amp;quot;haitus&amp;quot; while the product for [[Transformers (2007)|the 2007 movie]] (which also happens to include licensed representations of real-world vehicles) takes the spotlight.  It is unknown if [[Hasbro]] will revisit the line afterwards, though it doesn&#039;t look all that promising. As a result, a planned Alternators Megatron figure, based on the Cadillac XLR, may never see the light of day.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Binal Tech==&lt;br /&gt;
In Japan, the line is known as &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Binal Tech&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, with the primary difference being that &#039;&#039;Binal Tech&#039;&#039; figures are more &amp;quot;collector&amp;quot;-oriented, featuring fully-painted car bodies and die-cast metal parts, in comparison to &#039;&#039;Alternators&#039;&#039;&#039; color-molded plastic construction.  Additionally, various &#039;&#039;Binal Tech&#039;&#039; figures have variants that Hasbro did not release (though there are numerous [[redeco]]es and [[remold]]s in &#039;&#039;Alternators&#039;&#039; that never saw release in &#039;&#039;Binal Tech&#039;&#039;).  Also, a &#039;&#039;Binal Tech&#039;&#039; toy costs twice or thrice as much as a standard &#039;&#039;Alternators&#039;&#039; figure.&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;Binal Tech&#039;&#039; line proper was effectively cancelled (or, to put it politely, put on &amp;quot;indefinite haitus&amp;quot;) in early 2006 after the release of [[Skids]], apparently due to slow sales.  Reportedly two more releases were cancelled; &amp;quot;[[Blackarachnia|Blackwidow]]&amp;quot; (a silver and purple [[redeco]] of [[Decepticharge]] as the &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; femme fatale) and [[Ginrai]] ([[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]) had been solictited, but only the first was shown in any capacity.&lt;br /&gt;
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In late 2005 (not too long before it went on &amp;quot;indefinite haitus&amp;quot;), &#039;&#039;Binal Tech&#039;&#039; gained a sub-series called &#039;&#039;Binal Tech Asterisk&#039;&#039;, using old molds in new decos as previously-unreleased Autobots, but also including small PVC figurines of human girls, each one based on a female human character from a previous &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; series.  These figurines had alternate arms and lower bodies so they could &amp;quot;drive&amp;quot; the Autobots in car mode.  These toys were also packaged in robot mode as opposed to the normal car mode (presumably to encourage transformation to car mode so the girls could drive).  Reportedly, the addition of the PVCs was to try and reach a broader market to help the line&#039;s flagging sales... though the higher price tag probably didn&#039;t help.  This series only had three releases before it was cancelled; a &amp;quot;Black Convoy w/ [[Marissa Faireborn|Marissa]] set was solicited as the fourth set but never released as originally planned... it got changed for the latest incarnation of the 1:24 line, [[Kiss Players]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
There is no actual fiction for the &#039;&#039;Alternators&#039;&#039; line, and it is highly unlikely there ever will be, the line&#039;s questionable future regardless.  According to [[Hasbro]] representatives, they never persued the licensing rights for &amp;quot;2D&amp;quot; representations of the car models.  Though the reasons were never stated, it is not hard to extrapolate numerous reasons not to; additional costs for securing rights for an indefinite period, debatable ability to utlize those rights ina timely manner, plus clearing whatever fictional protrayal is made with every car company involved, which would massively bog down any publication.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unlike &#039;&#039;Alternators&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Binal Tech&#039;&#039; has its own storyline written by [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]], though it is only told in small text chunks within each toy&#039;s instruction booklet.  Taking place during the &#039;lost years&#039; between the [[Generation 1]] cartoon&#039;s second season and [[The Transformers: The Movie]].  The story heralds the return of the [[Cosmic Rust]] virus, which infects both [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s alike, and forces them to team up with various name-brand car companies to create new bodies for the infected, which would be immune to the plague.  A sub-plot of the story involves [[Ravage]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; incarnation returning in another attempt to change history, and the Autobots&#039; attempts to stop him and reverse the damage.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Binal Tech Asterisk&#039;&#039; has its own fiction that appears to be utterly unconnected to any other Transformers timeline.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Alternators===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(&#039;&#039;&#039;Note&#039;&#039;&#039;:  Since &#039;&#039;Alternators&#039;&#039; do not come out in waves so much as in groups of one-to-three roughly every season, they&#039;ll simply be listed in order of release without differentiation as to when that release happened.)&lt;br /&gt;
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*01. [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] (Subaru Impreza WRC 2003)&lt;br /&gt;
*02. [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] (Dodge Viper SRT-10)&lt;br /&gt;
*03. [[Hound|Autobot Hound]] (Jeep Wrangler Sport)&lt;br /&gt;
*04. [[Bluestreak|Silverstreak]] (Subaru Impreza WRX)&lt;br /&gt;
*05. [[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]] (Dodge Viper Competition Coupe)&lt;br /&gt;
*06. [[Tracks|Autobot Tracks]] (Chevrolet Corvette Z06)&lt;br /&gt;
*07. [[Jazz|Meister]] (Mazda RX-8)&lt;br /&gt;
*08. [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] (Jeep Wrangler TJ Custom)&lt;br /&gt;
*09. [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] (Ford Mustang GT)&lt;br /&gt;
*10. [[Ravage|Battle Ravage]] (Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Convertible)&lt;br /&gt;
*11. [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] (Honda S2000)&lt;br /&gt;
*12. [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockblast]] (Mazda RX-8 Mazdaspeed Version II)&lt;br /&gt;
*13. [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] (2005 Ford Mustang Street Tuning)&lt;br /&gt;
*14. [[Decepticharge]] (Mugen Honda S2000)&lt;br /&gt;
*15. [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] (Chevrolet Corvette Z06)&lt;br /&gt;
*16. [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] (Acura RSX)&lt;br /&gt;
*17. [[Skids (G1)|Autobot Skids]] (Scion xB)&lt;br /&gt;
*18. [[Sunstreaker]] (Dodge Viper Competition Coupe)&lt;br /&gt;
*19. [[Rollbar (G1)|Rollbar]] (Jeep Wrangler TJ Custom)&lt;br /&gt;
*20. [[Ricochet (G1) (Autobot)|Ricochet]] (Subaru Impreza WRX)&lt;br /&gt;
*21. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (Dodge Ram SRT-10)&lt;br /&gt;
*22. [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] (Ford GT)&lt;br /&gt;
*23. [[Camshaft (G1)|Camshaft]] (Acura RSX)&lt;br /&gt;
*24. [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]] (Dodge Ram SRT-10)&lt;br /&gt;
*25. [[Rumble]] (Honda Civic Si)&lt;br /&gt;
*26. Ravage (Jaguar XK)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Binal Tech===&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-01. Smokescreen (Subaru Impreza WRC 2003)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-02. [[Sideswipe (G1)|Lambor]] (Dodge Viper SRT-10)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-03. [[Bluestreak|Streak]] (Subaru Impreza WRX)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-04. Hound (Jeep Wrangler Sport)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-05. Dead End (Dodge Viper Competition Coupe)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-06. Tracks (Chevrolet Corvette Z06 yellow version)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-06. Tracks (Chevrolet Corvette Z06 blue version)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-07. Smokescreen GT (Subaru Impreza WRC 2003)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-08. [[Jazz|Meister]] (Mazda RX-8 white version)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-08. Meister (Mazda RX-8 red version, aka [[Zoom-Zoom]])&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-09. Swindle (Jeep Wrangler TJ Custom)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-10. Grimlock (Ford Mustang GT)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-11. Ravage (Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Convertible)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-12. [[Overdrive]] (Honda S2000)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-13. [[Shockwave (G1)|Laserwave]] (Mazda RX-8 Mazdaspeed Version II)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-14. Wheeljack (2005 Ford Mustang Street Tuning)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-15. Prowl (Honda Integra Type-R police version)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-15. Prowl (Honda Integra Type-R blue version)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-16. Skids (Toyota bB)&lt;br /&gt;
*BT-17. Black Convoy (Dodge Ram SRT-10)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Binal Tech Asterisk===&lt;br /&gt;
*BTA01. [[Red Alert (G1)|Alert]] meets [[Ai Kuruma|Ai]] (Subaru Impreza WRX)&lt;br /&gt;
*BTA02. [[Sunstreaker]] meets [[Junko Shiragami|Junko]] (Dodge Viper Competition Coupe)&lt;br /&gt;
*BTA03. [[Blaster|Broadblast]] meets [[Lumina Hoshi|Lumina]] (Toyota bB)&lt;br /&gt;
==Pre-release development==&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s not certain what exactly originally led Hasbro and Takara to the concept of a line of Transformers based on licensed vehicles. An [http://tfarchive.com/fandom/interviews/alternators_binaltech/takara_binaltech_interview_translation.php interview with Takara&#039;s development team] confirmed that both companies initially had different ideas (for example, a different intended scale for the toys) that ultimately resulted in a compromise. It&#039;s possible that Hasbro&#039;s motivation stemmed from the Robots in Disguise line, where they were required to alter X-Brawn&#039;s headlights in order to avoid legal trouble with Mercedes, and had to acquire a license from Dodge for all iterations of the Side Burn beginning with the RiD &amp;quot;Super Side Burn&amp;quot; redeco.&lt;br /&gt;
What is certain is that in addition to what was eventually released, a lot of toys were planned that never came out, or were significantly changed in various ways prior to their release.&lt;br /&gt;
* The first toy planned for the line was Jazz (probably to be named &amp;quot;Autobot Jazz&amp;quot; for trademark reasons) as a Porsche 986. A prototype was made, but Porsche refused to grant Hasbro and Takara the license, stating that &amp;quot;[http://www.tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?s=&amp;amp;threadid=24622|Transformers are not worthy carrying the Porsche trademark. They are war machines and the toyline in no way represents the lifestyle and ideas which Porsche represents.]&amp;quot;Transformers are war toys and do, therefore the toy never went into production. Photos of the prototype were depicted in the Japanese book &amp;quot;The Transformers: Binal Tech &amp;amp; TF Collection Complete Guide&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* The second prototype produced was Tracks as a Chevrolet Corvette Z06. Although the toy eventually came out, Chevrolet initially denied Hasbro and Takara the license as well, presumably fearing that &amp;quot;[http://toyboxst.inwards.com/phorum/read.php?3,97799,97800|having these car panels that separate apart conveys an image of being broken]&amp;quot;. This led Hasbro and Takara to conceive an alternate concept for Tracks as another &amp;quot;well-known American sports car&amp;quot;, namely a Dodge Viper.&lt;br /&gt;
* The third design was for Bumblebee as a Volkswagen New Beetle, with Cliffjumper as the redeco. Unfortunately, VW had similar concerns as Porsche, what with not wanting to be associated with &amp;quot;war toys&amp;quot;, therefore the design never made it past the control drawing stage. Control drawings for both Bumblebee and Cliffjuper have been published in the aforementioned Japanese BT guide book.&lt;br /&gt;
* Possibly the fourth design, and the last to be a &amp;quot;direct update&amp;quot; of the respective characters&#039; G1 alt mode, was Hound, originally planned as a Jeep Rubicon, sporting a slightly different transformation that would have somewhat reduced the back kibble. The change from the Rubicon to the Wrangler model ultimately came out as was presumably due to Jeep wanting their more common model featured.&lt;br /&gt;
* The redeco of Hound (as a customized Jeep Wrangler TJ) was originally intended to be Trailbreaker, with the head sculpt being a hybrid design between the original toy&#039;s helmet and the cartoon model&#039;s face. Ultimately, however, the remold ended up as the Decepticon Swindle, in different colors. A proposed color guide for Trailbreaker was depicted in the Japanese BT guide book, next to a color guide for Swindle (unfortunately only in black &amp;amp; white, however).&lt;br /&gt;
* After Chevrolet had initially denied Hasbro and Takara the license for the Corvette Z06, they came up with an auxiliary plan for Tracks as another &amp;quot;well-known American sports car&amp;quot;, this time as a Dodge Viper SRT-10. It&#039;s quite possible that Hasbro&#039;s previous experience with Dodge&#039;s licensing department played a part in this decision. Additionally, Chevrolet&#039;s concerns that had led them to reject the design for Tracks as a Corvette were addressed by not having the hood of the Viper mold splitting in two halves. The redeco of the Viper was intended to be Sunstreaker, as a Dodge Viper GTR (which later became the Dodge Viper Competition Coupe). Eventually, though, Chevrolet had a change of mind and granted Hasbro and Takara the license for the Corvette design after all. As a result, the Viper mold was slightly redesigned, was given a new head sculpt and ultimately ended up as Sideswipe instead (called &amp;quot;Side Swipe&amp;quot; for trademark reasons). Sunstreaker, meanwhile, would ultimately and up as the Decepticon Dead End, in different colors, with a proper Sunstreaker repaint only being released more than a year later, due to huge fan request.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Subaru Impreza mold was apparently the first design that went without any major difficulty at any stage in its production process. It should be noted, though, that the Streak (the WRX street model) was originally designed first, with Smokescreen (the WRC rally model) being intended as the redeco, but Takara&#039;s licensing department decided to reverse the release order of the two versions, thinking that the rally model would have &amp;quot;more visual impact&amp;quot; as the first relase of the line.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Mazda RX-8 (which ultimately ended up as Meister) was originally intended to be named &amp;quot;Camshaft&amp;quot;, according to various early store listings and a premature reply from Hasbro&#039;s customer service. This would also fit with the early idea of making the Alternators toys &amp;quot;direct updates&amp;quot; of their characters&#039; G1 predecessors. A prototype was leaked to the public in early 2004 sporting the same basic colors as the later Alternators &amp;quot;Autobot Camshaft&amp;quot; toy (the Acura RSX), although it&#039;s uncertain whether the prototype colors for the RX-8 were supposed to be indicative of the proposed colors for Camshaft (since the Acura redeco was originally intended as a G1 Bluestreak homage before being renamed into &amp;quot;Autobot Camshaft&amp;quot;). The reason why the RX-8 Alternator was ultimately not named &amp;quot;Camshaft&amp;quot; was apparently because the real-life Mazda RX-8 car doesn&#039;t &#039;&#039;have&#039;&#039; a camshaft. Furthermore, there have been at least two different reasons stated why Hasbro toy was named &amp;quot;Meister&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;Autobot Jazz&amp;quot;: For once, Hasbro were still hoping that Porsche would have a change of mind and grant them the license after all, like Chevrolet had done; also, Aaron Archer has been quoted stating that he thought a third toy named &amp;quot;Autobot someone&amp;quot; following &amp;quot;Autobot Hound&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Autobot Tracks&amp;quot; would have been somewhat &amp;quot;redundant&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* A working name for the Ford Mustang mold (which ultimately ended up as Grimlock) was &amp;quot;Freeway&amp;quot;, according to various early store listings. The redeco was originally planned to be Windcharger (presumably in red), but ultimately ended up as Wheeljack instead, with a new head sculpt, while the head sculpt originally intended for Windcharger ended up being used for the redeco of the Honda S2000 mold instead, named &amp;quot;Decepticharge&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* Originally, the Dodge Ram was intended by Hasbro to be a completely different character altogether than Optimus Prime (which character is unknown), but Takara reportedly demanded the Ram be made into Optimus out of fear that the toy (whose vehicle mode is scarce in Japan as a real vehicle) wouldn&#039;t sell as well in their market if it wasn&#039;t a popular and easily recognized figure; as the figure reportedly cost twice as much to build as the others, Hasbro had to agree in order for Takara to continue fronting part of the production cost. In an ironic turn of events, the Dodge was listed on Takara&#039;s website not as Optimus, but as his Masterforce look-alike [[Ginrai]], before being delayed and ultimately canceled. The Dodge would eventually be released to the Kiss Players line as Optimus, with his evil counterpart Nemesis Prime released as a Winter Festival exclusive.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Talk:Blackarachnia (BW)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;66.233.183.59: /* Blackarachnia&amp;#039;s Telekinesis and it&amp;#039;s connection to Tarantulas */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I question the placement of the BW Manga between the US BW and BM material.  We have been aligning most entries according to continuity, then series.  (See [[Hot Shot (UT)]], for example.  Cartoon:Armada, Energon, Cybertron; then Comic:Armada, Energon.)  That way, the summaries of stories flow logically and chronologically. I would probably prefer to move the BW Manga section after Universe.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed and done.  Why is Legends seperate?  Is it for the Armadqa tale?  is she even IN The Armada tale?  Or are was counting Furman&#039;s contribution as a seperate continuity?&lt;br /&gt;
In EITHER case, the banner &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; is an inaccurate container-continuity for the tales it contains, becase a character might appear in SEVERAL Legends tales, in multiple continuities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of Legends, I&#039;d say put the story/stories they appear in&#039;s title in italics as a header above the descriptive paragraph. - [[User: M Sipher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Japanese Voice actress==&lt;br /&gt;
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So I&#039;m looking at the decomposing corpse of TFPulp. http://web.archive.org/web/20041019195546/www.tfpulp.com/archive/seiyuu/seiyuu.html She&#039;s all the way down at the bottom.  Says Black Widow&#039;s voice actress was &amp;quot;Ryoka Yuzuki aka Kanori Kadomatsu aka Ayumi Nagashii&amp;quot;.  Ryoka Yuzuki would appear to be her real name.  Is the one listed, Iwata, another alias? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Fixed! [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 21:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia&#039;s Telekinesis and it&#039;s connection to Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m seriously getting tired of being accused of vandalism whenever I post that BA&#039;s TM2 telekinesis is likely a product of her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded. I&#039;ve been told repeatedly that it&#039;s an &#039;unsubstantiated rumor&#039;, but I&#039;ve seen similar theories about multiple entries in this site that have far less evidence to back them up than this has.&lt;br /&gt;
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While it&#039;s not stated directly, the evidence in-show obviously sets up the mind link as the source of the telekinesis: first, the link was stated as &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; in nature, not electronic or otherwise artificial, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any transmissions being made when the link was being used. It was also very powerful, and worked both ways; not only was Tarantulas able to speak through BA with it &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; cause her mental pain, but she also acquired a lot of information from his memories, information that she retained after the link was severed. Plus, when BA threatened to kill herself via energon radiation if the link wasn&#039;t terminated, her anguish was visibly shared through the link by Tarantulas, and even he noted that, if BA &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; terminate herself, the link would&#039;ve ensured his death, as well. There&#039;s also the debatable scene where Tarantulas forces himself inside BA&#039;s head after he&#039;s burned by Inferno, and had to download himself into his new TM body &#039;&#039;from BA&#039;s noggin&#039;&#039;, which could meaning that the link was established by his &#039;&#039;literally inhabiting her mind&#039;&#039;. Oh, and besides mutant spark-aided healing, I don&#039;t recall the show &#039;&#039;ever&#039;&#039; stating that the TM2 process granted a Transformer brand new abilities that they didn&#039;t have before, just upgrades to what they already had, meaning that the potential for BA&#039;s telekinesis had to already be there to begin with, and since BA was never even hinted at having the required mental faculties for psychokinesis, even before the mind-link, where else &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; she get it from?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, it&#039;s a theory, but it&#039;s a theory blatantly supported by the cartoon. Her eyes even glow the same color as when Tarantulas gained control of her during the link when she levitated the girder to dispatch Rampage, for crying out loud. If that doesn&#039;t solidify the &amp;quot;spider mindmeld alien upgrade&amp;quot; theory, then I dunno what does.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In no way is either telepathy or telekinesis a &amp;quot;powered up&amp;quot; version of the other.  They are totally unrelated abilities aside from both being brain things.  Precognition, clairvoyance, astral projection, etc., are also &amp;quot;psychic&amp;quot; brain things, but that doesn&#039;t mean they are related.  Honestly, until Derik posted to my talk page about it saying, &amp;quot;they are both psychic abilities&amp;quot;, I seriously had no idea why you would think they were connected.  There are *tons* of types of psychic ability.  All of the evidence you cite, other than the eye glow thing which might have something to it, is merely &#039;&#039;consistent with&#039;&#039; your theory; it doesn&#039;t &#039;&#039;support&#039;&#039; you.  All the same evidence is also consistent with her telekinesis having nothing to do with Tarantulas.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Regarding eye-glow: Several characters over the course of the series had their eyes glow for various reasons.  I don&#039;t recall what colors were used for these various effects.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if unrelated instances of glowing eyes happened to use the same color from time to time, but admittedly I don&#039;t know that offhand.&lt;br /&gt;
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:--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 23:14, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he said. And, as far as eye-glow is concerned, I&#039;m WAY more inclined to chalk it up to &amp;quot;Mainframe knew how to do that effect&amp;quot; than them making some kind of conscious reference to an unrelated event practically a full season back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Which other Transformers were confirmed to have actual psychic abilities, especially in Beast Wars? Besides, the link not only allowed BA and Tarantulas to communicate telepathically, but it also allowed Tarantulas to TAKE OVER HER BODY and INFLICT PAIN ON HER PSYCHICALLY, neither of which are generally accepted as being strictly telepathic abilities. Plus, read any kind of fiction that includes psychic abilities, and you&#039;ll almost always see a telepath manifest telekinetic abilities of some form. It also makes far more sense than say...Primacron&#039;s Oracle assistant being THE Oracle of Beast Machines (which also has no evidence to support it, yet it&#039;s allowed in Primacron Oracle&#039;s article). Essentailly, all you&#039;re saying is Mainframe is too stupid to make self references of past subplots, which is interesting considering how they touched up on Tigatron and Airazor&#039;s abduction, the fate of Sentinel, BA&#039;s shell program, Tarantulas&#039; hatred for the Vok...need I go on? Honestly, do you guys even watch the media whose wikis you monitor?&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Dude, I&#039;ve seen Beast Wars more times than I can count.  I have it memorized.  No where was it remotely implied that Blackarachnia got telekinesis powers from having a mind-link with somebody else.  Those aren&#039;t even the same power!  Telekinetics and telepaths are two completely different things!  And please stop insulting people.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Didn&#039;t one of the BotCon comics retcon the Oracle as being the assistant? I&#039;m not sure of that. And typically, when we have fannon in an article, it is 1. in the trivia section, 2, is in it&#039;s own paragraph seperate from the cannon, and 3. is clearly stated as such. And even then, it&#039;s only included if it was notable in the fandom (aka, who was Dion built into, is Brawn dead or alive, who became Cyclonus, Scourge, and the Sweeps, etc. This is the only long discussion on this topic I&#039;ve seen, ans you seem to be the only one who insists the two abilities are linked. Yes, you can say the fiction doesn&#039;t contridict it, but you can claim the same thing about Alpha Trion being a pimp before the rebellion against the Quintessons. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::BotCon comics never mentioned the G1 Oracle, I&#039;m pretty sure.  (Its name is known only from the script, so I wouldn&#039;t expect that sort of thing to show up.)  Regardless, I&#039;ve removed that bit from that page&#039;s trivia section.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2? As I said before, there&#039;s nothing stated in the show that says that the process gives the Transformer new powers besides the spark-healing. In fact, beyond Blackarachnia, NONE of the TM2s in the show gained new abilities from the driver. Telekinesis is different from telepathy, fine, but as I explained, the mind link between BA and Tarantulas was NOT just merely telepathy; if it was, he shouldn&#039;t have been able to control her body, nor inflict pain on her. In fact, the moment he was restored to his original body, BA tried to shoot him, and what does he do? Force her mentally to turn her gun to her own head. That&#039;s not telepathy, now is it? It&#039;s just assumed to me &#039;mere&#039; telepathy, because that&#039;s for the most part what Tarantulas used it for: seeing and knowing whatever BA saw and knew.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 00:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::&amp;quot;What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2?&amp;quot;  Uh, yeah.  I think that&#039;s obvious.  That was sort of the deal.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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66.233.183.59, you seem to be taking this all really personally.  We are not saying that &amp;quot;Mainframe is too stupid&amp;quot; to have referenced a past episode.  We are saying that in this particular case we don&#039;t think they were doing so.&lt;br /&gt;
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Controlling somebody&#039;s body and causing them to feel pain are MOST DEFINITELY applications of telepathy as portrayed in many works of fiction.  Both come about through manipulating the victom&#039;s mind, not by applying force to the limbs.  The only story I can think of offhand where telekinesis is considered to be something &amp;quot;beyond&amp;quot; but connected to telepathy is &#039;&#039;Babylon 5&#039;&#039;, and even in that series, telepaths with no teke inflicted pain and mind-control on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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You are right, there is no &amp;quot;other&amp;quot; explanation for where her powers came from. There is also no explanation for where the Transmetal Driver came from in the first place, how it brought her back from the dead, or why it made Cheetor go Jeckyll/Hyde.  This doesn&#039;t mean that just because some idea some people discussed *can* fit the canon that it is *supported* by the canon.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you see instances of fanon where it doesn&#039;t belong on this Wiki, please edit it, or at the very least comment about it on the relevant talk page.  As with any Wiki, there is going to be some inaccurate stuff here and there.  A lot of us monitor the &amp;quot;recent changes&amp;quot; page, especially for edits by anonymous users, which is why so many people have been reverting your edits to this article.  There is still plenty of opportunity, though, for mistakes to find their way in.  Just because you see something on a page doesn&#039;t mean that we all unanimously agree with it.  It could even be that content which directly contradicts our policies i around someplace and nobody has noticed it yet.  We&#039;d all appreciate your help in seeking out that sort of thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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	:::::::After none of the other TM2s in the show gained any such spontaneous abilities? Unlikely. I&#039;m sorry, but &amp;quot;a wizard did it&amp;quot; just isn&#039;t flying with me, especially considering how much of a freak accident it would have to be in order for it to work. Did Cheetor gain the ability to teleport, for instance, or Dinobot the power to slow time? No, they did not; aside from the spark-healing (which seems to be pretty universal for all Transmetal 2&#039;s), any powers they gained were mere upgrades to whatever they had before; Cheetor could run faster and &#039;air dash&#039; like his original Transmetal form, while DInobot had a laser-firing eyepiece and razor-sharp melee weapons. If you consider them TM2&#039;s, only Tigerhawk gained any &#039;new&#039; powers, due to direct Vok influence and not the modified driver; Megatron gained the ability to fly and shoot things from his gun/head hand. Again, nothing new there. So why is it that only Blackarachnia gained a power that&#039;s not only completely new, but according to you not even remotely related to her in the least? The psychic link theory is more feasible to me, because of the consistency it has with all of the other showings of what a TM2 gains in the show: greatly heightened versions of their existing powers. You can argue that the process was unfinished, but then again, so was Cheetor&#039;s, and he didn&#039;t gain any nifty new power; you can say that she was technically dead when the process finished, but Dinobot was a cloned blank protoform with half a spark that&#039;s not even his own, Cheetor woas on death&#039;s doorstep himself, and Megatron was thrown into a lava bath and left for dead. Again, none of them gained any new powers. The only thing that logically fits here is her psychic link with Tarantulas, and considering how much he screwed with her mind, how can you say there was no trace of the link left in her head after it was severed?[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 01:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;66.233.183.59: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I question the placement of the BW Manga between the US BW and BM material.  We have been aligning most entries according to continuity, then series.  (See [[Hot Shot (UT)]], for example.  Cartoon:Armada, Energon, Cybertron; then Comic:Armada, Energon.)  That way, the summaries of stories flow logically and chronologically. I would probably prefer to move the BW Manga section after Universe.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed and done.  Why is Legends seperate?  Is it for the Armadqa tale?  is she even IN The Armada tale?  Or are was counting Furman&#039;s contribution as a seperate continuity?&lt;br /&gt;
In EITHER case, the banner &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; is an inaccurate container-continuity for the tales it contains, becase a character might appear in SEVERAL Legends tales, in multiple continuities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of Legends, I&#039;d say put the story/stories they appear in&#039;s title in italics as a header above the descriptive paragraph. - [[User: M Sipher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Japanese Voice actress==&lt;br /&gt;
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So I&#039;m looking at the decomposing corpse of TFPulp. http://web.archive.org/web/20041019195546/www.tfpulp.com/archive/seiyuu/seiyuu.html She&#039;s all the way down at the bottom.  Says Black Widow&#039;s voice actress was &amp;quot;Ryoka Yuzuki aka Kanori Kadomatsu aka Ayumi Nagashii&amp;quot;.  Ryoka Yuzuki would appear to be her real name.  Is the one listed, Iwata, another alias? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Fixed! [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 21:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia&#039;s Telekinesis and it&#039;s connection to Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m seriously getting tired of being accused of vandalism whenever I post that BA&#039;s TM2 telekinesis is likely a product of her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded. I&#039;ve been told repeatedly that it&#039;s an &#039;unsubstantiated rumor&#039;, but I&#039;ve seen similar theories about multiple entries in this site that have far less evidence to back them up than this has.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While it&#039;s not stated directly, the evidence in-show obviously sets up the mind link as the source of the telekinesis: first, the link was stated as &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; in nature, not electronic or otherwise artificial, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any transmissions being made when the link was being used. It was also very powerful, and worked both ways; not only was Tarantulas able to speak through BA with it &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; cause her mental pain, but she also acquired a lot of information from his memories, information that she retained after the link was severed. Plus, when BA threatened to kill herself via energon radiation if the link wasn&#039;t terminated, her anguish was visibly shared through the link by Tarantulas, and even he noted that, if BA &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; terminate herself, the link would&#039;ve ensured his death, as well. There&#039;s also the debatable scene where Tarantulas forces himself inside BA&#039;s head after he&#039;s burned by Inferno, and had to download himself into his new TM body &#039;&#039;from BA&#039;s noggin&#039;&#039;, which could meaning that the link was established by his &#039;&#039;literally inhabiting her mind&#039;&#039;. Oh, and besides mutant spark-aided healing, I don&#039;t recall the show &#039;&#039;ever&#039;&#039; stating that the TM2 process granted a Transformer brand new abilities that they didn&#039;t have before, just upgrades to what they already had, meaning that the potential for BA&#039;s telekinesis had to already be there to begin with, and since BA was never even hinted at having the required mental faculties for psychokinesis, even before the mind-link, where else &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; she get it from?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, it&#039;s a theory, but it&#039;s a theory blatantly supported by the cartoon. Her eyes even glow the same color as when Tarantulas gained control of her during the link when she levitated the girder to dispatch Rampage, for crying out loud. If that doesn&#039;t solidify the &amp;quot;spider mindmeld alien upgrade&amp;quot; theory, then I dunno what does.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In no way is either telepathy or telekinesis a &amp;quot;powered up&amp;quot; version of the other.  They are totally unrelated abilities aside from both being brain things.  Precognition, clairvoyance, astral projection, etc., are also &amp;quot;psychic&amp;quot; brain things, but that doesn&#039;t mean they are related.  Honestly, until Derik posted to my talk page about it saying, &amp;quot;they are both psychic abilities&amp;quot;, I seriously had no idea why you would think they were connected.  There are *tons* of types of psychic ability.  All of the evidence you cite, other than the eye glow thing which might have something to it, is merely &#039;&#039;consistent with&#039;&#039; your theory; it doesn&#039;t &#039;&#039;support&#039;&#039; you.  All the same evidence is also consistent with her telekinesis having nothing to do with Tarantulas.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Regarding eye-glow: Several characters over the course of the series had their eyes glow for various reasons.  I don&#039;t recall what colors were used for these various effects.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if unrelated instances of glowing eyes happened to use the same color from time to time, but admittedly I don&#039;t know that offhand.&lt;br /&gt;
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:--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 23:14, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he said. And, as far as eye-glow is concerned, I&#039;m WAY more inclined to chalk it up to &amp;quot;Mainframe knew how to do that effect&amp;quot; than them making some kind of conscious reference to an unrelated event practically a full season back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Which other Transformers were confirmed to have actual psychic abilities, especially in Beast Wars? Besides, the link not only allowed BA and Tarantulas to communicate telepathically, but it also allowed Tarantulas to TAKE OVER HER BODY and INFLICT PAIN ON HER PSYCHICALLY, neither of which are generally accepted as being strictly telepathic abilities. Plus, read any kind of fiction that includes psychic abilities, and you&#039;ll almost always see a telepath manifest telekinetic abilities of some form. It also makes far more sense than say...Primacron&#039;s Oracle assistant being THE Oracle of Beast Machines (which also has no evidence to support it, yet it&#039;s allowed in Primacron Oracle&#039;s article). Essentailly, all you&#039;re saying is Mainframe is too stupid to make self references of past subplots, which is interesting considering how they touched up on Tigatron and Airazor&#039;s abduction, the fate of Sentinel, BA&#039;s shell program, Tarantulas&#039; hatred for the Vok...need I go on? Honestly, do you guys even watch the media whose wikis you monitor?&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Dude, I&#039;ve seen Beast Wars more times than I can count.  I have it memorized.  No where was it remotely implied that Blackarachnia got telekinesis powers from having a mind-link with somebody else.  Those aren&#039;t even the same power!  Telekinetics and telepaths are two completely different things!  And please stop insulting people.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Didn&#039;t one of the BotCon comics retcon the Oracle as being the assistant? I&#039;m not sure of that. And typically, when we have fannon in an article, it is 1. in the trivia section, 2, is in it&#039;s own paragraph seperate from the cannon, and 3. is clearly stated as such. And even then, it&#039;s only included if it was notable in the fandom (aka, who was Dion built into, is Brawn dead or alive, who became Cyclonus, Scourge, and the Sweeps, etc. This is the only long discussion on this topic I&#039;ve seen, ans you seem to be the only one who insists the two abilities are linked. Yes, you can say the fiction doesn&#039;t contridict it, but you can claim the same thing about Alpha Trion being a pimp before the rebellion against the Quintessons. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::BotCon comics never mentioned the G1 Oracle, I&#039;m pretty sure.  (Its name is known only from the script, so I wouldn&#039;t expect that sort of thing to show up.)  Regardless, I&#039;ve removed that bit from that page&#039;s trivia section.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2? As I said before, there&#039;s nothing stated in the show that says that the process gives the Transformer new powers besides the spark-healing. In fact, beyond Blackarachnia, NONE of the TM2s in the show gained new abilities from the driver. Telekinesis is different from telepathy, fine, but as I explained, the mind link between BA and Tarantulas was NOT just merely telepathy; if it was, he shouldn&#039;t have been able to control her body, nor inflict pain on her. In fact, the moment he was restored to his original body, BA tried to shoot him, and what does he do? Force her mentally to turn her gun to her own head. That&#039;s not telepathy, now is it? It&#039;s just assumed to me &#039;mere&#039; telepathy, because that&#039;s for the most part what Tarantulas used it for: seeing and knowing whatever BA saw and knew.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 00:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Blackarachnia_(BW)&amp;diff=32554</id>
		<title>Talk:Blackarachnia (BW)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;66.233.183.59: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I question the placement of the BW Manga between the US BW and BM material.  We have been aligning most entries according to continuity, then series.  (See [[Hot Shot (UT)]], for example.  Cartoon:Armada, Energon, Cybertron; then Comic:Armada, Energon.)  That way, the summaries of stories flow logically and chronologically. I would probably prefer to move the BW Manga section after Universe.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed and done.  Why is Legends seperate?  Is it for the Armadqa tale?  is she even IN The Armada tale?  Or are was counting Furman&#039;s contribution as a seperate continuity?&lt;br /&gt;
In EITHER case, the banner &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; is an inaccurate container-continuity for the tales it contains, becase a character might appear in SEVERAL Legends tales, in multiple continuities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of Legends, I&#039;d say put the story/stories they appear in&#039;s title in italics as a header above the descriptive paragraph. - [[User: M Sipher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Japanese Voice actress==&lt;br /&gt;
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So I&#039;m looking at the decomposing corpse of TFPulp. http://web.archive.org/web/20041019195546/www.tfpulp.com/archive/seiyuu/seiyuu.html She&#039;s all the way down at the bottom.  Says Black Widow&#039;s voice actress was &amp;quot;Ryoka Yuzuki aka Kanori Kadomatsu aka Ayumi Nagashii&amp;quot;.  Ryoka Yuzuki would appear to be her real name.  Is the one listed, Iwata, another alias? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Fixed! [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 21:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia&#039;s Telekinesis and it&#039;s connection to Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m seriously getting tired of being accused of vandalism whenever I post that BA&#039;s TM2 telekinesis is likely a product of her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded. I&#039;ve been told repeatedly that it&#039;s an &#039;unsubstantiated rumor&#039;, but I&#039;ve seen similar theories about multiple entries in this site that have far less evidence to back them up than this has.&lt;br /&gt;
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While it&#039;s not stated directly, the evidence in-show obviously sets up the mind link as the source of the telekinesis: first, the link was stated as &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; in nature, not electronic or otherwise artificial, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any transmissions being made when the link was being used. It was also very powerful, and worked both ways; not only was Tarantulas able to speak through BA with it &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; cause her mental pain, but she also acquired a lot of information from his memories, information that she retained after the link was severed. Plus, when BA threatened to kill herself via energon radiation if the link wasn&#039;t terminated, her anguish was visibly shared through the link by Tarantulas, and even he noted that, if BA &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; terminate herself, the link would&#039;ve ensured his death, as well. There&#039;s also the debatable scene where Tarantulas forces himself inside BA&#039;s head after he&#039;s burned by Inferno, and had to download himself into his new TM body &#039;&#039;from BA&#039;s noggin&#039;&#039;, which could meaning that the link was established by his &#039;&#039;literally inhabiting her mind&#039;&#039;. Oh, and besides mutant spark-aided healing, I don&#039;t recall the show &#039;&#039;ever&#039;&#039; stating that the TM2 process granted a Transformer brand new abilities that they didn&#039;t have before, just upgrades to what they already had, meaning that the potential for BA&#039;s telekinesis had to already be there to begin with, and since BA was never even hinted at having the required mental faculties for psychokinesis, even before the mind-link, where else &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; she get it from?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, it&#039;s a theory, but it&#039;s a theory blatantly supported by the cartoon. Her eyes even glow the same color as when Tarantulas gained control of her during the link when she levitated the girder to dispatch Rampage, for crying out loud. If that doesn&#039;t solidify the &amp;quot;spider mindmeld alien upgrade&amp;quot; theory, then I dunno what does.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In no way is either telepathy or telekinesis a &amp;quot;powered up&amp;quot; version of the other.  They are totally unrelated abilities aside from both being brain things.  Precognition, clairvoyance, astral projection, etc., are also &amp;quot;psychic&amp;quot; brain things, but that doesn&#039;t mean they are related.  Honestly, until Derik posted to my talk page about it saying, &amp;quot;they are both psychic abilities&amp;quot;, I seriously had no idea why you would think they were connected.  There are *tons* of types of psychic ability.  All of the evidence you cite, other than the eye glow thing which might have something to it, is merely &#039;&#039;consistent with&#039;&#039; your theory; it doesn&#039;t &#039;&#039;support&#039;&#039; you.  All the same evidence is also consistent with her telekinesis having nothing to do with Tarantulas.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Regarding eye-glow: Several characters over the course of the series had their eyes glow for various reasons.  I don&#039;t recall what colors were used for these various effects.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if unrelated instances of glowing eyes happened to use the same color from time to time, but admittedly I don&#039;t know that offhand.&lt;br /&gt;
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:--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 23:14, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he said. And, as far as eye-glow is concerned, I&#039;m WAY more inclined to chalk it up to &amp;quot;Mainframe knew how to do that effect&amp;quot; than them making some kind of conscious reference to an unrelated event practically a full season back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Which other Transformers were confirmed to have actual psychic abilities, especially in Beast Wars? Besides, the link not only allowed BA and Tarantulas to communicate telepathically, but it also allowed Tarantulas to TAKE OVER HER BODY and INFLICT PAIN ON HER PSYCHICALLY, neither of which are generally accepted as being strictly telepathic abilities. Plus, read any kind of fiction that includes psychic abilities, and you&#039;ll almost always see a telepath manifest telekinetic abilities of some form. It also makes far more sense than say...Primacron&#039;s Oracle assistant being THE Oracle of Beast Machines (which also has no evidence to support it, yet it&#039;s allowed in Primacron Oracle&#039;s article). Essentailly, all you&#039;re saying is Mainframe is too stupid to make self references of past subplots, which is interesting considering how they touched up on Tigatron and Airazor&#039;s abduction, the fate of Sentinel, BA&#039;s shell program, Tarantulas&#039; hatred for the Vok...need I go on? Honestly, do you guys even watch the media whose wikis you monitor?&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Dude, I&#039;ve seen Beast Wars more times than I can count.  I have it memorized.  No where was it remotely implied that Blackarachnia got telekinesis powers from having a mind-link with somebody else.  Those aren&#039;t even the same power!  Telekinetics and telepaths are two completely different things!  And please stop insulting people.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Didn&#039;t one of the BotCon comics retcon the Oracle as being the assistant? I&#039;m not sure of that. And typically, when we have fannon in an article, it is 1. in the trivia section, 2, is in it&#039;s own paragraph seperate from the cannon, and 3. is clearly stated as such. And even then, it&#039;s only included if it was notable in the fandom (aka, who was Dion built into, is Brawn dead or alive, who became Cyclonus, Scourge, and the Sweeps, etc. This is the only long discussion on this topic I&#039;ve seen, ans you seem to be the only one who insists the two abilities are linked. Yes, you can say the fiction doesn&#039;t contridict it, but you can claim the same thing about Alpha Trion being a pimp before the rebellion against the Quintessons. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::BotCon comics never mentioned the G1 Oracle, I&#039;m pretty sure.  (Its name is known only from the script, so I wouldn&#039;t expect that sort of thing to show up.)  Regardless, I&#039;ve removed that bit from that page&#039;s trivia section.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::What other explination is there? That it spontaneously developed on their own when she became TM2? As I said before, there&#039;s nothing stated in the show that says that the process gives the Transformer new powers besides the spark-healing. In fact, beyond Blackarachnia, NONE of the TM2s in the show gained new abilities from the driver. Telekinesis is different from telepathy, fine, but as I explained, the mind link between BA and Tarantulas was NOT just merely telepathy; if it was, he shouldn&#039;t have been able to control her body, nor inflict pain on her. In fact, the moment he was restored to his original body, BA tried to shoot him, and what does he do? Force her mentally to turn her gun to her own head. That&#039;s not telepathy, now is it? It&#039;s just assumed to me &#039;mere&#039; telepathy, because that&#039;s for the most part what Tarantulas used it for: seeing and knowing whatever BA saw and knew.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 00:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Blackarachnia_(BW)&amp;diff=32549</id>
		<title>Talk:Blackarachnia (BW)</title>
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		<updated>2007-05-01T00:30:01Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;66.233.183.59: /* Blackarachnia&amp;#039;s Telekinesis and it&amp;#039;s connection to Tarantulas */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I question the placement of the BW Manga between the US BW and BM material.  We have been aligning most entries according to continuity, then series.  (See [[Hot Shot (UT)]], for example.  Cartoon:Armada, Energon, Cybertron; then Comic:Armada, Energon.)  That way, the summaries of stories flow logically and chronologically. I would probably prefer to move the BW Manga section after Universe.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Agreed and done.  Why is Legends seperate?  Is it for the Armadqa tale?  is she even IN The Armada tale?  Or are was counting Furman&#039;s contribution as a seperate continuity?&lt;br /&gt;
In EITHER case, the banner &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; is an inaccurate container-continuity for the tales it contains, becase a character might appear in SEVERAL Legends tales, in multiple continuities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the case of Legends, I&#039;d say put the story/stories they appear in&#039;s title in italics as a header above the descriptive paragraph. - [[User: M Sipher]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Japanese Voice actress==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So I&#039;m looking at the decomposing corpse of TFPulp. http://web.archive.org/web/20041019195546/www.tfpulp.com/archive/seiyuu/seiyuu.html She&#039;s all the way down at the bottom.  Says Black Widow&#039;s voice actress was &amp;quot;Ryoka Yuzuki aka Kanori Kadomatsu aka Ayumi Nagashii&amp;quot;.  Ryoka Yuzuki would appear to be her real name.  Is the one listed, Iwata, another alias? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Fixed! [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 21:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia&#039;s Telekinesis and it&#039;s connection to Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m seriously getting tired of being accused of vandalism whenever I post that BA&#039;s TM2 telekinesis is likely a product of her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded. I&#039;ve been told repeatedly that it&#039;s an &#039;unsubstantiated rumor&#039;, but I&#039;ve seen similar theories about multiple entries in this site that have far less evidence to back them up than this has.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While it&#039;s not stated directly, the evidence in-show obviously sets up the mind link as the source of the telekinesis: first, the link was stated as &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; in nature, not electronic or otherwise artificial, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any transmissions being made when the link was being used. It was also very powerful, and worked both ways; not only was Tarantulas able to speak through BA with it &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; cause her mental pain, but she also acquired a lot of information from his memories, information that she retained after the link was severed. Plus, when BA threatened to kill herself via energon radiation if the link wasn&#039;t terminated, her anguish was visibly shared through the link by Tarantulas, and even he noted that, if BA &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; terminate herself, the link would&#039;ve ensured his death, as well. There&#039;s also the debatable scene where Tarantulas forces himself inside BA&#039;s head after he&#039;s burned by Inferno, and had to download himself into his new TM body &#039;&#039;from BA&#039;s noggin&#039;&#039;, which could meaning that the link was established by his &#039;&#039;literally inhabiting her mind&#039;&#039;. Oh, and besides mutant spark-aided healing, I don&#039;t recall the show &#039;&#039;ever&#039;&#039; stating that the TM2 process granted a Transformer brand new abilities that they didn&#039;t have before, just upgrades to what they already had, meaning that the potential for BA&#039;s telekinesis had to already be there to begin with, and since BA was never even hinted at having the required mental faculties for psychokinesis, even before the mind-link, where else &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; she get it from?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yes, it&#039;s a theory, but it&#039;s a theory blatantly supported by the cartoon. Her eyes even glow the same color as when Tarantulas gained control of her during the link when she levitated the girder to dispatch Rampage, for crying out loud. If that doesn&#039;t solidify the &amp;quot;spider mindmeld alien upgrade&amp;quot; theory, then I dunno what does.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In no way is either telepathy or telekinesis a &amp;quot;powered up&amp;quot; version of the other.  They are totally unrelated abilities aside from both being brain things.  Precognition, clairvoyance, astral projection, etc., are also &amp;quot;psychic&amp;quot; brain things, but that doesn&#039;t mean they are related.  Honestly, until Derik posted to my talk page about it saying, &amp;quot;they are both psychic abilities&amp;quot;, I seriously had no idea why you would think they were connected.  There are *tons* of types of psychic ability.  All of the evidence you cite, other than the eye glow thing which might have something to it, is merely &#039;&#039;consistent with&#039;&#039; your theory; it doesn&#039;t &#039;&#039;support&#039;&#039; you.  All the same evidence is also consistent with her telekinesis having nothing to do with Tarantulas.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Regarding eye-glow: Several characters over the course of the series had their eyes glow for various reasons.  I don&#039;t recall what colors were used for these various effects.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if unrelated instances of glowing eyes happened to use the same color from time to time, but admittedly I don&#039;t know that offhand.&lt;br /&gt;
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:--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 23:14, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he said. And, as far as eye-glow is concerned, I&#039;m WAY more inclined to chalk it up to &amp;quot;Mainframe knew how to do that effect&amp;quot; than them making some kind of conscious reference to an unrelated event practically a full season back. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Which other Transformers were confirmed to have actual psychic abilities, especially in Beast Wars? Besides, the link not only allowed BA and Tarantulas to communicate telepathically, but it also allowed Tarantulas to TAKE OVER HER BODY and INFLICT PAIN ON HER PSYCHICALLY, neither of which are generally accepted as being strictly telepathic abilities. Plus, read any kind of fiction that includes psychic abilities, and you&#039;ll almost always see a telepath manifest telekinetic abilities of some form. It also makes far more sense than say...Primacron&#039;s Oracle assistant being THE Oracle of Beast Machines (which also has no evidence to support it, yet it&#039;s allowed in Primacron Oracle&#039;s article). Essentailly, all you&#039;re saying is Mainframe is too stupid to make self references of past subplots, which is interesting considering how they touched up on Tigatron and Airazor&#039;s abduction, the fate of Sentinel, BA&#039;s shell program, Tarantulas&#039; hatred for the Vok...need I go on? Honestly, do you guys even watch the media whose wikis you monitor?&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Suki_Brits&amp;diff=15869</id>
		<title>User talk:Suki Brits</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;66.233.183.59: /* Blackarachnia &amp;#039;vandalism&amp;#039; */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;OH MY GOD YOU&#039;RE REALLY NEALE DAVIDSON!!!!  [[User:Hooper X|Hooper X]] 05:21, 12 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Pat Lee==&lt;br /&gt;
But it IS factual!  That&#039;s what he wrote on his webpage!  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Holy friggin&#039; crazy. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 20:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==You are now an Admin==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Suki Brits, I&#039;ve made you and ItsWalky admins for this wiki.  I&#039;m glad you can help :)  Let me know if there is anything you need help with or can&#039;t do.  Please have a look at [[Wikicities:Help:Administrators&#039; how-to guide]] for the basics, and let me know if you want more admins added - two should start you off, but you may want more in time.  Thanks again -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] [[User talk:Sannse|(talk)]] 12:53, 15 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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...so &#039;sexy piece of autobot ass&#039; goes, but &#039;masteurjailbate&#039; stays?  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:20, 28 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sure, why not. The captions aren&#039;t supposed to be serious, and mostly, I can&#039;t think of anything to put in there instead. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 06:33, 28 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The image caption is also phrased in a way to not sound like it&#039;s endorsing pedophilia. Bonus points for that. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ep Template comments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi.  Thanks for your feedback.  The bright colors had fit in better with the design of my personal TF website, which already had more color; thus it didn&#039;t stand out as much.  But here I can see your point, as the style of this wiki is pretty plain to begin with, such bright colors do stand out, and I can sort of see how they might be distracting.  I like the idea of having some color in the table to help as an extra visual identifier of the groups.  I have therefore muted the colors.  Please check it out and let me know if you find it less distracting now. [[User:Telet093|Telet093]] 18:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: &amp;quot;vandalism&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m very sorry you consider that editing an entry to reflect a neutral point of view is considered to be vandalism.  &lt;br /&gt;
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My experience with Wikis so far has been that they are information resources, and while I don&#039;t object to humour being used in an entry, there is a certain amount of self-indulgent college-humour that diminishes potential of the resource.&lt;br /&gt;
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That said, I respect that I am a newcomer to the community, and will do my best to insert a fart joke into a suitable entry at the first opportunity, in order to gain editorial approval.  :)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for the reply.  I think what concerned me with the [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]] article is that the caption that was there was expressing an opinion, *and* wasn&#039;t particularly funny.  That being the case, I figured boring but accurate beat lame and indulgent, though it seems we differ on this.  &lt;br /&gt;
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:Like I say, I have no problem with things that are actually *funny*, but why leave something like [[Overhaul (G1)|this]] intact?  It&#039;s restating something that&#039;s stated far better further down the page, and isn&#039;t actually funny, and has terrible grammar.  When I changed it to something more sensible, it got reverted.  Another example [[Abdul Fakkadi|here]] - this caption could be interpreted as a homosexual slur.  To my mind, things like this *do* interfere with the quality of the articles.  It looks amateurish, and this reflects on how worthwhile the wiki is as a whole.  &lt;br /&gt;
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::How could &amp;quot;Kneel before my epaulettes&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;&#039;possibly&#039;&#039;&#039; be taken as a homosexual slur?  He&#039;s a self-important guy in a silly suit.  The &#039;kneel&#039; part is clearly imperious, not sexual.  And why would kneeling inply &#039;&#039;homo&#039;&#039;sexulity anyway?  Can&#039;t girls kneel before the socialist might of Abdul Fakkadi?  And even if it was- how is Abdul Fakkadi asking someone to serve him sexually a slur?  Do you think any any homosexual act is inherntly degrading, and thus a slur?&lt;br /&gt;
::I mean, christ, get it right.  Abdul Fakkadi is offensive to muslims, not gays.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Look, here si what we concluded.  &amp;quot;The main wikipedia has Transformers articles.  If you can&#039;t figure out that orange guy is Grapple without a caption saying &#039;a picture of Grapple,&#039; you belong there, not here.  Teletraan 1 inherently assumes that you already have a decent-enough familiarity with Transformers to keep up with the way the articles are written.  It&#039;s FOR FANS.&amp;quot;  And that means it doesn&#039;t have to be dry, informative and joyless. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:50, 5 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The &amp;quot;homosexual slur&amp;quot; comment was regarding [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Abdul_Fakkadi&amp;amp;oldid=21917 this caption].  Which was more making fun of people who WOULD make that joke, but since the joke had to be made in the process, it&#039;s easy to misinterpret. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 20:25, 5 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Ha!  I mean... ha.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Anyway, he&#039;s allowed to say that. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:44, 5 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::True, it doesn&#039;t have to be dry, informative and joyless.  But neither does it have to be one huge puerile fanboy in-joke. --[[User:Sofaman|Sofaman]] 01:24, 6 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I know that this stuff relating to use of humour is kind of spelled out in &amp;quot;Tone and Voice&amp;quot;, but are we just giving licence to subjective standards of humour that detract from the quality of the information overall?  How much is too much?  Is it only you and ItsWalky who decide?  Is this the best place to discuss this?  I really want to make a useful contribution to this wiki, and I&#039;m happy to be advised on how to do that, but I need to feel that differences of interpretation and presentation are going to be respected, which is really about the only way that wikis can work. --[[User:Sofaman|Sofaman]] 14:22, 5 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;quot;He blowed up real good&amp;quot;, I believe, is perfectly fine to have in the bio of a hi-then-die character, even if it restates it in the fiction section.  Of course, that&#039;s largely my history in newspaper journalism talking, where all the important information is included in the first paragraph and then everything is elaborated in further paragraphs.  This way, someone can get an idea of the most important attributes of the character without having to read the entire page.  With this in mind, it&#039;s perfectly fine to mention that the character only shows up to die in his profile.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question regarding a broad topic ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi there,&lt;br /&gt;
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I was wondering if, as an admin, you could please advise me on something? How can I go about fielding a question/suggestion for general discussion in a more systemic way than just on individual talk pages? It&#039;s just that I have a differing perspective on the way that this wikia designates certain continuity issues, and it&#039;s something that effects many entries. Naturally I don&#039;t want to go around unilaterally changing things to reflect my point of view, but I can&#039;t see any more general forum to discuss this. On Wookieepedia, the Star Wars wiki, they have a page they call the Senate Hall where people can discuss general topics concerning the site. Is there any way we could do something similar here? Failing that, how would you advise me to go about raising my issues for borader discussion?&lt;br /&gt;
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To just give you an idea of what I&#039;m talking about: I approve of the way that the site views the various different continuity families as taking place in alternative realities (obviously), however, I find the consistant use of phrasing which treats the Optimus Prime (and Megatron) character in different continuities as wholly different people poblematic. I view Optimus Prime in G1, RID and the Unicron Trilogy (for example) as being alternate reality versions of the same character, rather than wholly different characters with the same name and very similar personalities, which seems to be the way this site treats them. Although there is some argument to be made that this is the case in Japan where Convoy, Fire Convoy and Galaxy Convoy are not neccessarily alts of the same person (especially given the proliferation of Prime-lookalike convoys in the BWII &amp;amp; BWNeo), I think that American fictions consistently portray them as being different versions of the same individual, ala the common device of different versions of the same person in alternate universes as used in sundry sci-fi. Now granted most other instances of name-reuse (particularly in the Unicron Trilogy) give no indication of implying that, say, Armada Cyclonus is in any way and alternate version of G1 Cyclonus, but I think that with Prime and Megs this is clearly different.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a similar note, I disagree with the inclusion of IDW&#039;s &amp;quot;neo-G1&amp;quot; continuity being included in the pages relating to other G1 characters. Although clearly very closely based on G1, the IDWverse is extremely different from any prior incarnation of G1, and is certainly far more different from any prior version than any of the orginal G1 fictions (or even Dreamwave for that matter) differed from each other, if you follow my drift. The entire war/premise/scenario is radically different and most characters have different altmodes and/or transformation schemes. If the forthcoming live-action movie is being considered adequately different from G1 to be considered outside of the G1 continuity family, then I would argue that the IDWverse should be as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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...Anyway, that gives you an idea of what I want to discuss.  ;-) Can you please advise me how I could most effectively air these issues to the wider usership?&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].&lt;br /&gt;
===Central Discussion Area===&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks for that to you and Steve-o. We&#039;ve got a small trickle of discussion on my topic happening over there now. I invite you to join in. Thanks, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia &#039;vandalism&#039;==&lt;br /&gt;
ENOUGH with the accusations of vandalism, alright? I&#039;m a member of Ben Yee&#039;s Transformers board, and there was a discussion on BA&#039;s telekinesis in relation to her mind link with Tarantulas. Pretty much everyone on there agreed that the theory is viable (the thread has subsequently been deleted for a while, but I&#039;m sure I can find it in the archives). I&#039;m honestly shocked at how staunchly you guys are REFUSING to even consider it; all the evidence is right there clear as crystal in the cartoon. BA and Tarantulas shared a mind link with each other that lasted four episodes. The mind link went both ways and was forced on BA until it was terminated equally as forcefully in Tangled Web. BA retained, at the very least, a great deal of Tarantulas&#039; memories after the link was severed. The link was so powerful, that Tarantulas felt the pain BA experienced from energon radiation when she threatened suicide, and would&#039;ve destroyed them both through the link had she made good on her threat. The link was confirmed in dialogue to be psychic in nature, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any communications transmissions when they used the link to communicate. And, miraculously, after she became TM2, BA gained telekinesis. Oh, and at &#039;&#039;no point&#039;&#039; is it stated that the TM2 process granted a Transformer new abilities besides enhancing their existing powers and granting them spark-powered healing abilities. Hence, BA&#039;s telekinesis must&#039;ve come from &#039;&#039;somewhere&#039;&#039;, and her former mind link with Tarantulas makes the most sense. If you want to talk about &#039;wild rumors&#039;, there&#039;s a thread on Ben Yee&#039;s boards on &#039;&#039;how&#039;&#039; Tarantulas initiated the link, with the most common theory that he &#039;downloaded&#039; himself into her mind, which coincidentally further establishes the &amp;quot;BA&#039;s telekinesis was her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded&amp;quot; theory.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 23:11, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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* right, and all of the other theories and speculation remaining on the other wiki pages on this site are more substantiated. Please. Not only are many of them far fetched, but they don&#039;t even have one reference of evidence to support them. Watch Beast Wars again, and it&#039;s clear that this theory is implied in-show, if not stated directly. Seriously, I&#039;m really starting to wonder if you guys even watch the shows, considering how little you seem to know about them.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 23:11, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;I question the placement of the BW Manga between the US BW and BM material.  We have been aligning most entries according to continuity, then series.  (See [[Hot Shot (UT)]], for example.  Cartoon:Armada, Energon, Cybertron; then Comic:Armada, Energon.)  That way, the summaries of stories flow logically and chronologically. I would probably prefer to move the BW Manga section after Universe.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed and done.  Why is Legends seperate?  Is it for the Armadqa tale?  is she even IN The Armada tale?  Or are was counting Furman&#039;s contribution as a seperate continuity?&lt;br /&gt;
In EITHER case, the banner &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; is an inaccurate container-continuity for the tales it contains, becase a character might appear in SEVERAL Legends tales, in multiple continuities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the case of Legends, I&#039;d say put the story/stories they appear in&#039;s title in italics as a header above the descriptive paragraph. - [[User: M Sipher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Japanese Voice actress==&lt;br /&gt;
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So I&#039;m looking at the decomposing corpse of TFPulp. http://web.archive.org/web/20041019195546/www.tfpulp.com/archive/seiyuu/seiyuu.html She&#039;s all the way down at the bottom.  Says Black Widow&#039;s voice actress was &amp;quot;Ryoka Yuzuki aka Kanori Kadomatsu aka Ayumi Nagashii&amp;quot;.  Ryoka Yuzuki would appear to be her real name.  Is the one listed, Iwata, another alias? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 20:45, 8 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Fixed! [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 21:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia&#039;s Telekinesis and it&#039;s connection to Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m seriously getting tired of being accused of vandalism whenever I post that BA&#039;s TM2 telekinesis is likely a product of her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded. I&#039;ve been told repeatedly that it&#039;s an &#039;unsubstantiated rumor&#039;, but I&#039;ve seen similar theories about multiple entries in this site that have far less evidence to back them up than this has.&lt;br /&gt;
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While it&#039;s not stated directly, the evidence in-show obviously sets up the mind link as the source of the telekinesis: first, the link was stated as &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; in nature, not electronic or otherwise artificial, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any transmissions being made when the link was being used. It was also very powerful, and worked both ways; not only was Tarantulas able to speak through BA with it &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; cause her mental pain, but she also acquired a lot of information from his memories, information that she retained after the link was severed. Plus, when BA threatened to kill herself via energon radiation if the link wasn&#039;t terminated, her anguish was visibly shared through the link by Tarantulas, and even he noted that, if BA &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; terminate herself, the link would&#039;ve ensured his death, as well. There&#039;s also the debatable scene where Tarantulas forces himself inside BA&#039;s head after he&#039;s burned by Inferno, and had to download himself into his new TM body &#039;&#039;from BA&#039;s noggin&#039;&#039;, which could meaning that the link was established by his &#039;&#039;literally inhabiting her mind&#039;&#039;. Oh, and besides mutant spark-aided healing, I don&#039;t recall the show &#039;&#039;ever&#039;&#039; stating that the TM2 process granted a Transformer brand new abilities that they didn&#039;t have before, just upgrades to what they already had, meaning that the potential for BA&#039;s telekinesis had to already be there to begin with, and since BA was never even hinted at having the required mental faculties for psychokinesis, even before the mind-link, where else &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; she get it from?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, it&#039;s a theory, but it&#039;s a theory blatantly supported by the cartoon. Her eyes even glow the same color as when Tarantulas gained control of her during the link when she levitated the girder to dispatch Rampage, for crying out loud. If that doesn&#039;t solidify the &amp;quot;spider mindmeld alien upgrade&amp;quot; theory, then I dunno what does.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;OH MY GOD YOU&#039;RE REALLY NEALE DAVIDSON!!!!  [[User:Hooper X|Hooper X]] 05:21, 12 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Pat Lee==&lt;br /&gt;
But it IS factual!  That&#039;s what he wrote on his webpage!  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Holy friggin&#039; crazy. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 20:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==You are now an Admin==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Suki Brits, I&#039;ve made you and ItsWalky admins for this wiki.  I&#039;m glad you can help :)  Let me know if there is anything you need help with or can&#039;t do.  Please have a look at [[Wikicities:Help:Administrators&#039; how-to guide]] for the basics, and let me know if you want more admins added - two should start you off, but you may want more in time.  Thanks again -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] [[User talk:Sannse|(talk)]] 12:53, 15 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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...so &#039;sexy piece of autobot ass&#039; goes, but &#039;masteurjailbate&#039; stays?  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:20, 28 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sure, why not. The captions aren&#039;t supposed to be serious, and mostly, I can&#039;t think of anything to put in there instead. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 06:33, 28 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The image caption is also phrased in a way to not sound like it&#039;s endorsing pedophilia. Bonus points for that. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ep Template comments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi.  Thanks for your feedback.  The bright colors had fit in better with the design of my personal TF website, which already had more color; thus it didn&#039;t stand out as much.  But here I can see your point, as the style of this wiki is pretty plain to begin with, such bright colors do stand out, and I can sort of see how they might be distracting.  I like the idea of having some color in the table to help as an extra visual identifier of the groups.  I have therefore muted the colors.  Please check it out and let me know if you find it less distracting now. [[User:Telet093|Telet093]] 18:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: &amp;quot;vandalism&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m very sorry you consider that editing an entry to reflect a neutral point of view is considered to be vandalism.  &lt;br /&gt;
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My experience with Wikis so far has been that they are information resources, and while I don&#039;t object to humour being used in an entry, there is a certain amount of self-indulgent college-humour that diminishes potential of the resource.&lt;br /&gt;
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That said, I respect that I am a newcomer to the community, and will do my best to insert a fart joke into a suitable entry at the first opportunity, in order to gain editorial approval.  :)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for the reply.  I think what concerned me with the [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]] article is that the caption that was there was expressing an opinion, *and* wasn&#039;t particularly funny.  That being the case, I figured boring but accurate beat lame and indulgent, though it seems we differ on this.  &lt;br /&gt;
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:Like I say, I have no problem with things that are actually *funny*, but why leave something like [[Overhaul (G1)|this]] intact?  It&#039;s restating something that&#039;s stated far better further down the page, and isn&#039;t actually funny, and has terrible grammar.  When I changed it to something more sensible, it got reverted.  Another example [[Abdul Fakkadi|here]] - this caption could be interpreted as a homosexual slur.  To my mind, things like this *do* interfere with the quality of the articles.  It looks amateurish, and this reflects on how worthwhile the wiki is as a whole.  &lt;br /&gt;
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::How could &amp;quot;Kneel before my epaulettes&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;&#039;possibly&#039;&#039;&#039; be taken as a homosexual slur?  He&#039;s a self-important guy in a silly suit.  The &#039;kneel&#039; part is clearly imperious, not sexual.  And why would kneeling inply &#039;&#039;homo&#039;&#039;sexulity anyway?  Can&#039;t girls kneel before the socialist might of Abdul Fakkadi?  And even if it was- how is Abdul Fakkadi asking someone to serve him sexually a slur?  Do you think any any homosexual act is inherntly degrading, and thus a slur?&lt;br /&gt;
::I mean, christ, get it right.  Abdul Fakkadi is offensive to muslims, not gays.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Look, here si what we concluded.  &amp;quot;The main wikipedia has Transformers articles.  If you can&#039;t figure out that orange guy is Grapple without a caption saying &#039;a picture of Grapple,&#039; you belong there, not here.  Teletraan 1 inherently assumes that you already have a decent-enough familiarity with Transformers to keep up with the way the articles are written.  It&#039;s FOR FANS.&amp;quot;  And that means it doesn&#039;t have to be dry, informative and joyless. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:50, 5 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The &amp;quot;homosexual slur&amp;quot; comment was regarding [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Abdul_Fakkadi&amp;amp;oldid=21917 this caption].  Which was more making fun of people who WOULD make that joke, but since the joke had to be made in the process, it&#039;s easy to misinterpret. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 20:25, 5 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Ha!  I mean... ha.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Anyway, he&#039;s allowed to say that. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:44, 5 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::True, it doesn&#039;t have to be dry, informative and joyless.  But neither does it have to be one huge puerile fanboy in-joke. --[[User:Sofaman|Sofaman]] 01:24, 6 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I know that this stuff relating to use of humour is kind of spelled out in &amp;quot;Tone and Voice&amp;quot;, but are we just giving licence to subjective standards of humour that detract from the quality of the information overall?  How much is too much?  Is it only you and ItsWalky who decide?  Is this the best place to discuss this?  I really want to make a useful contribution to this wiki, and I&#039;m happy to be advised on how to do that, but I need to feel that differences of interpretation and presentation are going to be respected, which is really about the only way that wikis can work. --[[User:Sofaman|Sofaman]] 14:22, 5 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;quot;He blowed up real good&amp;quot;, I believe, is perfectly fine to have in the bio of a hi-then-die character, even if it restates it in the fiction section.  Of course, that&#039;s largely my history in newspaper journalism talking, where all the important information is included in the first paragraph and then everything is elaborated in further paragraphs.  This way, someone can get an idea of the most important attributes of the character without having to read the entire page.  With this in mind, it&#039;s perfectly fine to mention that the character only shows up to die in his profile.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:06, 5 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question regarding a broad topic ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi there,&lt;br /&gt;
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I was wondering if, as an admin, you could please advise me on something? How can I go about fielding a question/suggestion for general discussion in a more systemic way than just on individual talk pages? It&#039;s just that I have a differing perspective on the way that this wikia designates certain continuity issues, and it&#039;s something that effects many entries. Naturally I don&#039;t want to go around unilaterally changing things to reflect my point of view, but I can&#039;t see any more general forum to discuss this. On Wookieepedia, the Star Wars wiki, they have a page they call the Senate Hall where people can discuss general topics concerning the site. Is there any way we could do something similar here? Failing that, how would you advise me to go about raising my issues for borader discussion?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To just give you an idea of what I&#039;m talking about: I approve of the way that the site views the various different continuity families as taking place in alternative realities (obviously), however, I find the consistant use of phrasing which treats the Optimus Prime (and Megatron) character in different continuities as wholly different people poblematic. I view Optimus Prime in G1, RID and the Unicron Trilogy (for example) as being alternate reality versions of the same character, rather than wholly different characters with the same name and very similar personalities, which seems to be the way this site treats them. Although there is some argument to be made that this is the case in Japan where Convoy, Fire Convoy and Galaxy Convoy are not neccessarily alts of the same person (especially given the proliferation of Prime-lookalike convoys in the BWII &amp;amp; BWNeo), I think that American fictions consistently portray them as being different versions of the same individual, ala the common device of different versions of the same person in alternate universes as used in sundry sci-fi. Now granted most other instances of name-reuse (particularly in the Unicron Trilogy) give no indication of implying that, say, Armada Cyclonus is in any way and alternate version of G1 Cyclonus, but I think that with Prime and Megs this is clearly different.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a similar note, I disagree with the inclusion of IDW&#039;s &amp;quot;neo-G1&amp;quot; continuity being included in the pages relating to other G1 characters. Although clearly very closely based on G1, the IDWverse is extremely different from any prior incarnation of G1, and is certainly far more different from any prior version than any of the orginal G1 fictions (or even Dreamwave for that matter) differed from each other, if you follow my drift. The entire war/premise/scenario is radically different and most characters have different altmodes and/or transformation schemes. If the forthcoming live-action movie is being considered adequately different from G1 to be considered outside of the G1 continuity family, then I would argue that the IDWverse should be as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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...Anyway, that gives you an idea of what I want to discuss.  ;-) Can you please advise me how I could most effectively air these issues to the wider usership?&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].&lt;br /&gt;
===Central Discussion Area===&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks for that to you and Steve-o. We&#039;ve got a small trickle of discussion on my topic happening over there now. I invite you to join in. Thanks, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Blackarachnia &#039;vandalism&#039;==&lt;br /&gt;
ENOUGH with the accusations of vandalism, alright? I&#039;m a member of Ben Yee&#039;s Transformers board, and there was a discussion on BA&#039;s telekinesis in relation to her mind link with Tarantulas. Pretty much everyone on there agreed that the theory is viable (the thread has subsequently been deleted for a while, but I&#039;m sure I can find it in the archives). I&#039;m honestly shocked at how staunchly you guys are REFUSING to even consider it; all the evidence is right there clear as crystal in the cartoon. BA and Tarantulas shared a mind link with each other that lasted four episodes. The mind link went both ways and was forced on BA until it was terminated equally as forcefully in Tangled Web. BA retained, at the very least, a great deal of Tarantulas&#039; memories after the link was severed. The link was so powerful, that Tarantulas felt the pain BA experienced from energon radiation when she threatened suicide, and would&#039;ve destroyed them both through the link had she made good on her threat. The link was confirmed in dialogue to be psychic in nature, which is why Megatron didn&#039;t detect any communications transmissions when they used the link to communicate. And, miraculously, after she became TM2, BA gained telekinesis. Oh, and at &#039;&#039;no point&#039;&#039; is it stated that the TM2 process granted a Transformer new abilities besides enhancing their existing powers and granting them spark-powered healing abilities. Hence, BA&#039;s telekinesis must&#039;ve come from &#039;&#039;somewhere&#039;&#039;, and her former mind link with Tarantulas makes the most sense. If you want to talk about &#039;wild rumors&#039;, there&#039;s a thread on Ben Yee&#039;s boards on &#039;&#039;how&#039;&#039; Tarantulas initiated the link, with the most common theory that he &#039;downloaded&#039; himself into her mind, which coincidentally further establishes the &amp;quot;BA&#039;s telekinesis was her mind link with Tarantulas upgraded&amp;quot; theory.&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>The Transformers: The Movie</title>
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[[Image:Transformersanimatedfilmposter.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Featuring the deaths of all your favorite Transformers characters.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;The Transformers: The Movie&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is an animated feature film based on the original Transformers toyline.  It was released in the United States on August 8, 1986.&lt;br /&gt;
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Often referred to by fans simply as &amp;quot;the movie&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;TFTM&amp;quot;, this film opens with characters who had been featured in the first two years of the toyline and associated media (cartoons, comic books, etc.), but quickly introduces new characters and kills many of the old ones to make room.  In particular, Optimus Prime, Megatron, and Starscream are all destroyed during the course of the film.&lt;br /&gt;
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The movie was a step up in almost every area from the television series, with a more sophisticated plot, more serious treatment of war and violence, a hugely ambitious scope and a greatly increased animation budget with well-known celebrities providing voice work.  For these reasons the film remains very popular with children of the 1980s.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Primary characters and cast==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]...[[Peter Cullen]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]...[[Robert Stack]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]...[[Paul Eiding]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hot Rod]]...[[Judd Nelson]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kup]]...[[Lionel Stander]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]]...[[John Moschitta Jr.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Springer]]...[[Neil Ross]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]]...[[Susan Blu]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wreck-Gar]]...[[Eric Idle]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Daniel Witwicky]]...[[David Mendenhall]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]...[[Frank Welker]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]...[[Chris Latta]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]...[[Leonard Nimoy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Unicron]]...[[Orson Welles]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Brief synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Unicronplanet.jpg|left|thumb|That&#039;s no moon.  It&#039;s a space station.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A [[Scale|planet-sized Transformer]] called [[Unicron]] who eats other planets is approaching [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].  As part of their continuing wars, the Autobots and Decepticons have a fierce battle on Earth which sees both Optimus Prime and Megatron mortally wounded.  Prime passes the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to Ultra Magnus and dies, and Megatron is transformed by Unicron into [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]].  [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] (briefly) assumes leadership of the Decepticons, but is killed when Galvatron arrives at Cybertron.  Galvatron then chases the surviving Autobots on Earth across space, splitting them up and taking the Matrix.  The Autobots find their way back to each other, and follow Galvatron to Cybertron just as Unicron transforms into robot mode and begins to eat their world.  Travelling inside Unicron, [[Hot Rod]] recovers the Matrix, transforms into Rodimus Prime, and uses the Matrix to destroy Unicron.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Full synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Tftm1986a.jpg|right|thumb|I have a bad feeling about this.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first sequence of the film, a mechanical planet called [[Unicron]] is shown travelling through the depths of space, then approaching and destroying another metal planet which has robotic inhabitants, much like [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].  During the attack, robots, vehicles, buildings, and even large chunks of rock float off the surface of the planet and spiral into the large &amp;quot;mouth&amp;quot; on Unicron.&lt;br /&gt;
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The scene then transitions to Cybertron, and the narrator explains that it is the year 2005, and that the [[Decepticon]]s are now in control of the planet.  The [[Autobot]]s are preparing to launch an assault to retake the planet from hidden bases on two of Cybertron&#039;s moons.  The Autobots launch a [[Autobot shuttle|shuttle]] to pick up a final shipment of [[energon]] from [[Earth]] before they strike.&lt;br /&gt;
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Plans for the attack are overheard by [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], who reports back to Megatron.  The Decepticons attack the Autobot shuttle en route to Earth, wiping out its crew.  Using the Autobots&#039; own shuttle, the Decepticons are able to get very close to the Autobots&#039; base on Earth, [[Autobot City]], before they are detected, and begin a devastating surprise attack on the unprepared city.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Tftm1986b.jpg|left|thumb|If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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During the battle at Autobot City, both [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and Megatron suffer mortal injuries, and a number of other characters are also killed.  Eventually the Decepticons retreat, but the damage suffered by the Autobots has been severe.  Shortly after the battle, Prime lies on his deathbed. He passes the reigns of leadership to [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and gives him the [[Matrix of Leadership]].  Prime relates a prophecy: &amp;quot;One day, an Autobot shall rise from our ranks, and use the power of the Matrix to light our [[darkest hour]].&amp;quot;  He then gives the oath, &amp;quot;[[&#039;Till All Are One]]&amp;quot;, and dies.  This sequence of events is observed remotely by Unicron, who appears unusually concerned by the survival of the Matrix.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Decepticons are making their escape aboard [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], but are too heavy for him to get them all home under his own power.  After putting the matter to a fair vote, the Decepticons decide to throw their injured members off the ship to better the chance of survival for the rest.  One of the most severely injured Decepticons is Megatron.  Starscream tosses him out and claims leadership of the Decepticon army.&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron and the other adrift Decepticons then encounter Unicron in interstellar space.  Unicron offers to rebuild Megatron and his men in exchange for their service.  Megatron agrees, and is [[reformatting|reformatted]] into [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]].  The other Decepticons are turned into [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]], [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], and [[The Sweeps]].  Unicron provides them with a ship, and sends them to kill Ultra Magnus and destroy the Matrix, stating that the Matrix is the only thing which can stand in his way.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Tftm1986c.jpg|right|thumb|Don&#039;t be too proud of this technological terror you&#039;ve constructed.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Galvatron first stops at Cybertron to take his revenge by killing Starscream and reclaiming leadership of the Decepticons.  Almost immediately afterwards, Unicron arrives in Cybertron&#039;s vicinity and devours at least two moons -- both of the Autobots&#039; moon bases are destroyed.  Under coercion by Unicron, Galvatron finally heads to Earth to kill Ultra Magnus, but Magnus and the other surviving Autobots flee in a pair of shuttles.  Eventually Galvatron manages to cause one shuttle to crash on yet another metal planet ([[Quintessa]]), and detonates the other with a volley of missiles.  However, the Autobots in the second shuttle escape unnoticed by separating the front portion of their shuttle just before impact.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Autobots in the crashed shuttle, [[Hot Rod]], [[Kup]], and the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], find themselves separated and in a hostile environment.  Hot Rod and Kup are captured by a squad of [[Allicon]]s and taken before a [[Quintesson]] [[Quintesson judge|judge]] and his court.  While being held there, they learn the name and nature of Unicron from [[Kranix]], a survivor of the planet destroyed in the opening of the film, which he calls [[Lithone]].  Meanwhile, the Dinobots encounter and befriend a young, wild Autobot named [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] who has been living alone on Quintessa.  Together, they crash the trial just as Hot Rod and Kup are fighting losing odds against the Quintessons&#039; [[Sharkticon]]s.  The tide is turned, and the Autobots commandeer a [[Quintesson ship]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Tftm1986d.jpg|left|thumb|What an incredible smell you&#039;ve discovered!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The other group of Autobots has landed on the planet [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]] to make repairs, but are attacked yet again by Galvatron, who was tipped off to their survival by Unicron.  During the battle, Ultra Magnus tries to open the Matrix to use its power, but is unable to do so, and instead is killed. Galvatron absconds the Matrix, taking it away to Unicron.  The remaining Autobots -- [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Springer]], [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]], and [[Spike Witwicky|Spike]]&#039;s son [[Daniel Witwicky|Daniel]] -- are then ambushed by [[Junkion|Junkions]], the eponymous natives of Junkion, who are also giant transforming robots.  This battle is cut short, however, by the arrival of Hot Rod&#039;s group in their Quintesson ship.  After exchanging the [[universal greeting]] they all make friends, and the Junkions restore Ultra Magnus to life.  Together, the whole group travels to Cybertron to try to recover the Matrix.&lt;br /&gt;
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Galvatron attempts to open the Matrix to use its power against Unicron, but is also unable to get it open.  Unicron, not pleased with this attempted treachery, shocks Galvatron by transforming from a planet into a [[Scale|planet-sized robot]].  Unicron plucks Galvatron off his chest and swallows him, Matrix and all, and then begins attacking Cybertron itself.  [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] scrambles the Decepticon forces to defend the planet, but they are ineffective against so large an enemy.  Shortly the Autobots arrive from Junkion, and fly the Quintesson ship straight through Unicron&#039;s eye.  This impact destroys the ship, and the Autobots fall out inside Unicron.  Hot Rod, separated from the others, eventually runs into Galvatron.  During their fight, Hot Rod gets his hands on the Matrix and hears Optimus&#039; voice speak the words, &amp;quot;Arise, Rodimus Prime.&amp;quot;  Hot Rod grows in stature, adopts a much sterner demeanor, and quickly dispatches Galvatron by tossing him through Unicron&#039;s hull out into space.  He then opens the Matrix, which fills Unicron with light and begins destroying him.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Tftm1986e.jpg|right|thumb|Use the Force, Luke.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In the meantime, the other Autobots inside Unicron have located some of their comrades from the moon bases who had been presumed dead, including [[Bumblebee]] and Daniel&#039;s father, Spike.  The Autobots, including Rodimus, escape through Unicron&#039;s remaining eye just as he begins to fall apart and explode.  The scene then immediately shifts to the surface of Cybertron, where -- for unclear reasons -- the Autobots seem to be in charge again.  Rodimus predicts an era of peace and prosperity, and the film closes with a shot of Unicron&#039;s severed head still floating in orbit around Cybertron.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Significance in Transfandom==&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Transformers: The Movie&#039;&#039; remains one of the most important elements of the entire Transformers brand, both within the fiction and from the perspective of the brand&#039;s popularity and &amp;quot;mindshare&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fictionally, it established several story concepts that have been used repeatedly in the years since 1986, some of which -- such as Unicron and the Matrix -- are now central to the entire Transformers mythos.  The movie is also the centerpiece of the most well-known Transformers continuity: the G1 animated universe.  The G1 cartoon is split into &amp;quot;pre-movie&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;post-movie&amp;quot; sections which feature differenct characters and settings, and even somewhat different visual styles. (Most pre-movie episodes were animated by the studio [[Toei]], while most post-movie episodes were animated by [[AKOM]].)&lt;br /&gt;
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To an entire generation of young fans, the movie was the most visually spectacular and narratively epic Transformers experience of their entire youth.  Events such as the death of Optimus Prime are widely reported to have reduced many little boys to tears.  It is hardly a surprise that these emotional experiences embedded themselves deeply in many fans&#039; memories.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not all to say that the movie is a &amp;quot;masterpiece&amp;quot;, exactly.  The film displays an arguably cynical attitude towards itself as a vehicle for advertising toys, especially in the way beloved characters are killed -- sometimes gratuitiously -- for sake of justifying the story&#039;s focus on a new group of toys.  Further, the two primary plot devices -- [[Unicron]] and the [[Matrix]] -- have no prior establishment in the fiction.  Unicron is given no backstory or justification; he simply exists, and is really dangerous, and is afraid of the Matrix, all for no good reason.  The introduction of the Matrix itself is a heavy [[retcon]].  The story asks us to accept that this cosmically-powerful artifact has been in Prime&#039;s possession all along (even though an X-ray of Optimus Prime&#039;s innards in the Season 2 episode &amp;quot;A Prime Problem&amp;quot; show absolutely no signs of said Matrix...), but has somehow never been relevant before.  Finally, the movie bears many similarities to &#039;&#039;[[Star Wars]]&#039;&#039;: There are several character-parallels (Springer is a Han Solo-type and Arcee even has Princess Leia&#039;s hairdo!), the primary threat is similar (it&#039;s the Death Star... but it transforms!), and both feature a climactic battle where the young hero hears the voice of his wise mentor one last time before saving the day.  To be a bit more fair to TF:TM, however, most of these similarities are either superficial (Arcee&#039;s Leia-hair) or can be seen as elements common to thousands of years worth of epic storytelling through human history, not just common to &#039;&#039;Star Wars&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia and controversies==&lt;br /&gt;
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This film was one of the last professional performances by [[Orson Welles]], if not the very last.  According to production materials shown at [[BotCon 2000]] by Tim Finn, the voice recording sessions for TF:TM were done on September 10 and 11 of 1985.  Welles died on October 10 of that same year.  It has often been speculated that Unicron&#039;s last line (&amp;quot;Destiny... you cannot destroy my destiny...!&amp;quot;) was recorded by another actor -- possibly [[Leonard Nimoy|Nimoy]] -- because it sounds different than the other lines.  This speculation has been quashed by statements by Transformers voice director [[Wally Burr]].[http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/60-astrominutes/wally_burr_3.html]&lt;br /&gt;
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Although the movie was billed in some advertisements before its theatrical release as being &amp;quot;widescreen&amp;quot;, the movie was in fact animated in a 1.33:1 aspect ratio.  It was intended to be matted down in the projector by the projectionist when screened, but all video transfers of the movie were done without mattes, meaning that there is actually more picture visible in the fullscreen video and DVD releases than there would have been in theaters.  In November of 2006, a 20th Anniversary edition DVD of the film was released by Sony BMG which included, for the first time, a widescreen version of the film.  However, comparison of frames from this new disc and old editions again shows that there is no missing picture on the sides -- the new &amp;quot;wide&amp;quot; version has simply had the top and bottom of the picture cropped off, meaning &#039;&#039;less&#039;&#039; visible picture.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Dinobot [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]] is mysteriously absent from almost the entire movie, even though the Dinobots as a group are featured prominantly.  It is unclear why this is the case, but one possible explanation is that copies of the script which have come into fans&#039; hands repeatedly list the Dinobots but never make mention of Snarl by name.  In fact, at one point the script refers to &amp;quot;the four Dinobots&amp;quot;.  Despite this, Snarl does appear in three very brief shots, although he has no lines and no action.&lt;br /&gt;
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With the exception of Starscream, Unicron, and possibly Shockwave, only the Autobots suffered casualities in the movie.  All of the other &amp;quot;dead&amp;quot; Decepticons from the Autobot City battle were rebuilt into Galvatron&#039;s new troops, and although Decepticons were shown taking heavy damage while fighting Unicron, their identities and their condition are uncertain.  Additionally, both Starscream and Unicron survived in the post-movie series in some form or another.  Shockwave&#039;s death in the finished film is highly uncertain, although in the script it is fairly strongly implied.  He does make some appearances in crowd shots in later cartoon episodes, but these may be examples of the fairly common animation errors in those episodes.&lt;br /&gt;
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There exists more than one English-language version of the film, with the following differences in content from the American theatrical run:&lt;br /&gt;
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* In some versions (notably the European version) the opening credits are replaced with a scrolling text (&amp;quot;Star Wars style&amp;quot;) which provides backstory.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In some versions (notably the European version) the film ends with a narrator reassuring the audience that Optimus Prime will return.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Instances of swearing in the film (there are two) were edited out; sometimes one, sometimes both. In case anyone is wondering, those instances are: Spike yelling &amp;quot;S**t&amp;quot; after his and Bumblebee&#039;s attempts to rig Moon Base 2 to self-destruct fails to destroy Unicron, and Ultra Magnus growling &amp;quot;Dammit!&amp;quot; while trying to open the Matrix against Galvatron on Junkion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Though most likely coincidental, the movie bears many similarities to the Marvel Comics Fantastic Four miniseries &amp;quot;The Galactus Trilogy&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
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* The presence of an enormous world-devouring cosmic entity that threatens to destroy the heroes&#039; home planet (Galactus/Unicron).&lt;br /&gt;
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* The presence of a single item that is the only thing that can stop said cosmic entitiy (The Ultimate Nullifier/The Matrix of Leadership).&lt;br /&gt;
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* The presence of a herald of said cosmic entity, who ultimately betrays the entity (The Silver Surfer/Galvatron).&lt;br /&gt;
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Originally, Ultra Magnus&#039; &amp;quot;death sequence&amp;quot; on Junkion called for him to be lassoed and drawn and quartered by the Sweeps&#039; energy beams, but this was deemed too graphic for audiences, hence the less disturbing &amp;quot;shot to death&amp;quot; sequence seen instead. There is evidence that the original sequence had been fully animated when the decision was made, however; the Sweeps still kept their solid energy lassos when they fire upon Mags, and Mags is seen visibly straining against what appears to be said lassos (edited out and replaced with laser fire) before exploding.&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s a few notable animation errors in the movie:&lt;br /&gt;
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* When Ultra Magnus accepts the Matrix, he&#039;s seen inserting it into his chest twice. (Some fans have joked that Mags was forcing the Matrix inside him, as another sign that it had chosen Hot Rod as the new leader and rejected him.)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Swoop&#039;s lower leg appears in Autobot City far ahead of the Dinobot for a brief second.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Not so much an error, but if you watch Sludge when he&#039;s haymaker&#039;ed by Devastator, his eyes pop out of their sockets in Loony Tunes fashion.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Soundtrack==&lt;br /&gt;
Released on Scotti Bros. Records, the soundtrack to the movie was made available in both vinyl LP (long-playing) record form and audio cassette.  At an undetermined point in the 90&#039;s, it was released on CD as well (there are no new markings on the CD booklet or outer case to indicate when the CD was released).&lt;br /&gt;
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*1. The Touch - [[Stan Bush]]&lt;br /&gt;
*2. Instruments Of Destruction - [[N.R.G.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*3. Death Of Optimus Prime - [[Vince DiCola]]&lt;br /&gt;
*4. Dare - Stan Bush&lt;br /&gt;
*5. Nothin&#039;s Gonna Stand In Our Way - Spectre General&lt;br /&gt;
*6. The Transformers (Theme) - [[Lion]]&lt;br /&gt;
*7. Escape - Vince DiCola&lt;br /&gt;
*8. Hunger - [[Spectre General]]&lt;br /&gt;
*9. Autobot/Decepticon Battle - Vince DiCola&lt;br /&gt;
*10. Dare To Be Stupid - [[&amp;quot;Weird Al&amp;quot; Yankovic]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1997, the newly-formed [[3H]] produced as a [[BotCon 1997]] [[exclusive]] a double-CD set called &#039;&#039;[[&#039;Til All Are One (CD)|&#039;Til All Are One]]&#039;&#039;.  The second disc contains the all of the background score (by Vince DiCola) that was not on the original soundtrack, including several &amp;quot;alternate&amp;quot; pieces for scenes that used songs from the original soundtrack, plus &amp;quot;[[Legacy]]&amp;quot;, the audition piece that got Vince the job.  Other albums released by 3H which include music from the movie are &#039;&#039;BotCon 97: The Concert&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;The Protoform Sessions&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Artistic Transformations&#039;&#039;, and &#039;&#039;Lighting Their Darkest Hour: The Complete Music Score&#039;&#039;.  All of these 3H albums are long since sold out.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers.htm TFTM&#039;s box office domestic gross.]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Black repaint&#039;&#039;&#039; is a fan-coined term referring to a mostly dark-colored [[redeco]] of a toy, usually featuring black as its primary color.  The term is usually inaccurate, as the toys are almost never actually [[repaint]]s, but the name has stuck.&lt;br /&gt;
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Black repaints are a comparatively common type of redeco; in particular, almost (but not quite) every [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|Optimus Prime]] toy has been produced in a black repaint color scheme at least once.  As with most aspects of Transformers, fandom opinion on black repaints is split: some like them, some denounce them as bland and/or uncreative, and some don&#039;t think of them as being any different from other redecoes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A black repaint does not necessarily have to be mostly black.  &#039;&#039;[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]&#039;&#039; [[Nemesis Prime (Armada)|Nemesis Prime]], for instance, is dark blue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Though not exclusive to those kinds of redecos, black repaints are most famous in Transfandom as being the standard method of releasing an &amp;quot;evil&amp;quot; countrpart to an existing Autobot. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some particularly well-known black repaints include:&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Generation 1]] [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], the first black repaint in &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robots in Disguise]] [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]], one of the few black repaints that represent a main show character, also the inspiration for many Optimus Prime based black repaints.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alternators]] [[Nemesis Prime (Alternators)|Nemesis Prime]], infamous for starting out as a nearly unobtainable exclusive surrounded by various problems with HasbroToyShop.com, then seeing a wide release in Australia.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Fandom]][[Category:Toys]]&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Steve-o&amp;diff=53283</id>
		<title>User talk:Steve-o</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Steve-o&amp;diff=53283"/>
		<updated>2007-04-30T18:27:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;66.233.183.59: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;My fellow bad guys - I, &#039;&#039;&#039;David Willis&#039;&#039;&#039;, your leader, will speak now about my, &#039;&#039;&#039;David Willis&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, plan. My villainous, villainous plan. Question the plan at your peril!......Uh, any questions?  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:42, 10 September 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hi Steve-o.  The disapearing history certainly is a strange one.  It&#039;s one for the technical types, so I&#039;ve passed it on to JasonR.  He&#039;s going to have a look and see if he can fix it.  He can see the problem, so hopefully he&#039;ll be able to cure it. -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] [[User talk:Sannse|(talk)]] 19:16, 23 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Did I ever send you a set of 4 TF Audio adventures that lacked book-equivilants?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I know it&#039;s been asked before- but I&#039;m not clear on the answer.  Do we have a spoiler template? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:36, 13 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, such as a template that would HIDE the following spoilers.  Other wikis have &#039;em. Are you telling me we&#039;re nto as good as the Thundercats Wiki, which doesn&#039;t want people to know Wileycub grew up to work for Mum-Ra?  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::We don&#039;t, but if you know how to make one, go ahead.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:58, 13 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bah.  I was thinking about a highlight-spoiler-- which is eminently possible.  But I looked it up on Wikipedia first. It notes that such a function is &#039;undesitrable,&#039; because soem web-browsers highlight different, meanign the text is nto visible even if highlightd.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bastard Browser Wars. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:50, 13 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is the person who was &amp;quot;editing out all the little jokes that happen to have mild curses in them&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
I thought this wiki was intended to be &amp;quot;kid-friendly&amp;quot;, being a Transformers wiki. Apparently, I was wrong. I will stop doing that now.&lt;br /&gt;
Again, I am sorry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Quickswitch==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m guessing that Techspec info &amp;amp; mottos are not OK or is it?  That&#039;s why I didn&#039;t put them in there.  As to copy-pastes, I did the entries for both Wikipedia &amp;amp; this one on Super-God Masterforce.  [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 00:27, 11 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Downshift move==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ah, alrighty then. Guess I should&#039;ve taken a look at the Portal first. Thanks! - [[User:Doogles|Doogles]] 22:41, 17 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Episode Template comments ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you for your comments, Steve-o.  At your suggestion, I have eliminated the word &amp;quot;tagline&amp;quot; as well as the date links.  Sorry about that by the way; I also started using Memory Alpha (the Star Trek wiki) and they used the calendar template for airdates of shows and birthdays of performers and crew and other miscellaneous things.  But if the consensus has already been reached that it&#039;s not necessary here, I&#039;m fine with that and will not use any date links.  Thanks for your feedback.  [[User:Telet093|Telet093]] 00:23, 19 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Spotlight titles==&lt;br /&gt;
See [[Talk:Spotlight (comics)]]  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:45, 21 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Various and sundry ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On your to-do list...&lt;br /&gt;
* Template:Shenanigans - Vanilla display-only messagebox that does just what it looks like, functional equivalent to a disputed-content notice template on wikia&lt;br /&gt;
* Template:Fact - [citationneeded] template, direct off wikipedia.  (Actually, a bit simpler, wikipedia had an option for cats or something I stripped out.)&lt;br /&gt;
* Category:Cleanup by month - Cleanup tags by month.  The first sub-section of this page (giving an at-a-glance summary) can be auto updated by a script - the same one used for this purpose on en.wikipedia.org with a few tweaks on the pattern-recognition to accommodate wikia&#039;s different grammar.  The script logs in as me, so I put in some safeties to keep it from running more than once a day, and a kill-switch in case of malfunction. (I should probably give the code for that to Walky...) It&#039;s overkill for this wiki- but a nice extra.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(I&#039;m contemplating whether the cleanup cat might more useful as a &#039;&#039;needs-improvement&#039;&#039; cat, since that&#039;s likely to receive use on this wiki...)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The one wrinkle likely to confuse you is the the use of: {{#if}} in the templates, a boolean [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions parser function] that lets the template do things only if certain variables are set. (And thus allows for a neater layout.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hope this is useful. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==re: Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Actually I just put them in there to color up the pages, but some were pretty boring.  Maybe I&#039;ll try and find some more apposite ones. --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 23:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Interlanguage links==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi Steve. The edit by HardStuff you reverted on the [[Main Page]] was actually a useful edit. He was adding an [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Interlanguage links|Interlanguage link]] which is a link that points to the same article on another language version of the same wiki. In this case, the link was pointing to the new [http://hu.transformers.wikia.com Hungarian Transformers Wikia]. The link appears in the left sidebar in the &amp;quot;other languages&amp;quot; section and is the easiest way for people to find this content in their own language. If you look at Wikipedia, you&#039;ll see this is used on many articles to link to the same topic in a different language. [[w:User:Angela|Angela]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Angela|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:58, 18 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Central Discussion Area==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for that. We&#039;ve got a small trickle of discussion on my topic happening over there now. I invite you to join in. Thanks, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Blackarachnia and Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s simple: Blackarachnia and Tarantulas shared a forced mental link for four episodes, one which went both ways according to Tangled Web and Other Visits. BA forced Tarantulas to break the link through suicide threat via energon; if you&#039;ll watch closely, their mental connection remained for a good half-minute or so &#039;&#039;after&#039;&#039; Tarantulas said the link was terminated (circumstantial, I know, but possible evidence that the energon interfered with the link temrination? I mean, they &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; note that BA&#039;s suicide plan would take out Tarantulas through the link, and he &#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039; feeling BA&#039;s pain of the energon radiation through it...). Also, BA retained many of Tarantulas&#039; memories after the link was severed. The link was specifically stated to be &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; by Tarantulas, not technological (as evidenced by Megatron not detecting any transmissions between the spiders when the link was used). All that indicates that some traces of the link remained in BA&#039;s mind, and were upgraded by her reformatting into Transmetal 2. No offense, but I can&#039;t believe you watched BA&#039;s show of telekinesis in Master Blaster and &#039;&#039;didn&#039;t&#039;&#039; think &amp;quot;Hmm, mind link with Tarantulas?&amp;quot;.[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 18:27, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>66.233.183.59</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Steve-o&amp;diff=53282</id>
		<title>User talk:Steve-o</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Steve-o&amp;diff=53282"/>
		<updated>2007-04-30T18:27:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;66.233.183.59: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;My fellow bad guys - I, &#039;&#039;&#039;David Willis&#039;&#039;&#039;, your leader, will speak now about my, &#039;&#039;&#039;David Willis&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, plan. My villainous, villainous plan. Question the plan at your peril!......Uh, any questions?  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:42, 10 September 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
:Hi Steve-o.  The disapearing history certainly is a strange one.  It&#039;s one for the technical types, so I&#039;ve passed it on to JasonR.  He&#039;s going to have a look and see if he can fix it.  He can see the problem, so hopefully he&#039;ll be able to cure it. -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] [[User talk:Sannse|(talk)]] 19:16, 23 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Did I ever send you a set of 4 TF Audio adventures that lacked book-equivilants?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I know it&#039;s been asked before- but I&#039;m not clear on the answer.  Do we have a spoiler template? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:36, 13 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, such as a template that would HIDE the following spoilers.  Other wikis have &#039;em. Are you telling me we&#039;re nto as good as the Thundercats Wiki, which doesn&#039;t want people to know Wileycub grew up to work for Mum-Ra?  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::We don&#039;t, but if you know how to make one, go ahead.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:58, 13 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bah.  I was thinking about a highlight-spoiler-- which is eminently possible.  But I looked it up on Wikipedia first. It notes that such a function is &#039;undesitrable,&#039; because soem web-browsers highlight different, meanign the text is nto visible even if highlightd.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Bastard Browser Wars. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:50, 13 June 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is the person who was &amp;quot;editing out all the little jokes that happen to have mild curses in them&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
I thought this wiki was intended to be &amp;quot;kid-friendly&amp;quot;, being a Transformers wiki. Apparently, I was wrong. I will stop doing that now.&lt;br /&gt;
Again, I am sorry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Quickswitch==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m guessing that Techspec info &amp;amp; mottos are not OK or is it?  That&#039;s why I didn&#039;t put them in there.  As to copy-pastes, I did the entries for both Wikipedia &amp;amp; this one on Super-God Masterforce.  [[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 00:27, 11 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Downshift move==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ah, alrighty then. Guess I should&#039;ve taken a look at the Portal first. Thanks! - [[User:Doogles|Doogles]] 22:41, 17 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Episode Template comments ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you for your comments, Steve-o.  At your suggestion, I have eliminated the word &amp;quot;tagline&amp;quot; as well as the date links.  Sorry about that by the way; I also started using Memory Alpha (the Star Trek wiki) and they used the calendar template for airdates of shows and birthdays of performers and crew and other miscellaneous things.  But if the consensus has already been reached that it&#039;s not necessary here, I&#039;m fine with that and will not use any date links.  Thanks for your feedback.  [[User:Telet093|Telet093]] 00:23, 19 July 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Spotlight titles==&lt;br /&gt;
See [[Talk:Spotlight (comics)]]  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:45, 21 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Various and sundry ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On your to-do list...&lt;br /&gt;
* Template:Shenanigans - Vanilla display-only messagebox that does just what it looks like, functional equivalent to a disputed-content notice template on wikia&lt;br /&gt;
* Template:Fact - [citationneeded] template, direct off wikipedia.  (Actually, a bit simpler, wikipedia had an option for cats or something I stripped out.)&lt;br /&gt;
* Category:Cleanup by month - Cleanup tags by month.  The first sub-section of this page (giving an at-a-glance summary) can be auto updated by a script - the same one used for this purpose on en.wikipedia.org with a few tweaks on the pattern-recognition to accommodate wikia&#039;s different grammar.  The script logs in as me, so I put in some safeties to keep it from running more than once a day, and a kill-switch in case of malfunction. (I should probably give the code for that to Walky...) It&#039;s overkill for this wiki- but a nice extra.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(I&#039;m contemplating whether the cleanup cat might more useful as a &#039;&#039;needs-improvement&#039;&#039; cat, since that&#039;s likely to receive use on this wiki...)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The one wrinkle likely to confuse you is the the use of: {{#if}} in the templates, a boolean [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions parser function] that lets the template do things only if certain variables are set. (And thus allows for a neater layout.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hope this is useful. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==re: Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Actually I just put them in there to color up the pages, but some were pretty boring.  Maybe I&#039;ll try and find some more apposite ones. --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 23:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Interlanguage links==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi Steve. The edit by HardStuff you reverted on the [[Main Page]] was actually a useful edit. He was adding an [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Interlanguage links|Interlanguage link]] which is a link that points to the same article on another language version of the same wiki. In this case, the link was pointing to the new [http://hu.transformers.wikia.com Hungarian Transformers Wikia]. The link appears in the left sidebar in the &amp;quot;other languages&amp;quot; section and is the easiest way for people to find this content in their own language. If you look at Wikipedia, you&#039;ll see this is used on many articles to link to the same topic in a different language. [[w:User:Angela|Angela]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Angela|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:58, 18 February 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Central Discussion Area==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for that. We&#039;ve got a small trickle of discussion on my topic happening over there now. I invite you to join in. Thanks, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Blackarachnia and Tarantulas==&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s simple: Blackarachnia and Tarantulas shared a forced mental link for four episodes, one which went both ways according to Tangled Web and Other Visits. BA forced Tarantulas to break the link through suicide threat via energon; if you&#039;ll watch closely, their mental connection remained for a good half-minute or so &#039;&#039;after&#039;&#039; Tarantulas said the link was terminated (circumstantial, I know, but possible evidence that the energon interfered with the link temrination? I mean, they &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; note that BA&#039;s suicide plan would take out Tarantulas through the link, and he &#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039; feeling BA&#039;s pain of the energon radiation through it...). Also, BA retained many of Tarantulas&#039; memories after the link was severed. The link was specifically stated to be &#039;&#039;psychic&#039;&#039; by Tarantulas, not technological (as evidenced by Megatron not detecting any transmissions between the spiders when the link was used). All that indicates that some traces of the link remained in BA&#039;s mind, and were upgraded by her reformatting into Transmetal 2. No offense, but I can&#039;t believe you watched BA&#039;s show of telekinesis in Master Blaster and &#039;&#039;didn&#039;t&#039;&#039; think &amp;quot;Hmm, mind link with Tarantulas?&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>66.233.183.59</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Blackarachnia_(BW)&amp;diff=23535</id>
		<title>Blackarachnia (BW)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Blackarachnia_(BW)&amp;diff=23535"/>
		<updated>2007-04-30T15:52:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;66.233.183.59: /* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Beast Wars&amp;#039;&amp;#039; */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia is a [[Predacon]], [[Maximal]], and a [[Decepticon]] in the [[Beast Era]] [[continuity family]]. She&#039;s a busy girl, huh?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blackarachniabw.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hot, poisonous, and deadly.  Rowr!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A sultry femme fatale, &#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; is smart, sexy, and dangerous.  She&#039;s got eight legs, and she knows how to use them.  Of the several rebellious Predacons under [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]&#039;s command, she&#039;s one of the very few who can, on occasion, outguile him.  Always looking out for Number One, Blackarachnia values her independence and freedom above all else.  She would rather be deactivated than be a slave.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarchnia&#039;s greatest weakness, other than her overconfidence, is her feelings for the Maximal [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]].  Something about his heroic demeanor and the kindness he shows her makes her uneasy.  She hasn&#039;t experienced unconditional love before, and it scares her, though she&#039;ll never admit it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Spanish name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Araña Negra&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Blackwidow&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;French-Canadian names&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Mygale&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;La Veuve Noire&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animated Continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Voice Actress:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Venus Terzo]] (US), [[Ryōka Yuzuki]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blackarachnia_A_shame.jpg|left|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarachnia was born from one of the [[Maximal]] fallen [[Stasis pod]]s. [[Tarantulus]], watching a black widow fight and devour another spider, was inspired. [[Megatron (BW)]], observing the slim and attractive Blackarachnia transform and strike a few poses, suggested that he had &amp;quot;ulterior motives behind her beast form selection.&amp;quot; But, she was a Predacon, and that was what was important. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarachnia made herself reknowned among the ranks of both the Maximals and Predacons as a severe headache to Megatron. When Tarantulus found out about the [[Vok]], he tried to craft a stasis pod escape ship for himself, and she was there to forge a partnership {{storylink|Spider&#039;s Game}}. When [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] and Blackarachnia journeyed to the island, she was there to shove him out of the way and take control of the island herself, only defeated by [[Tigatron]] {{storylink|The Trigger, Part 1}}. When [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] took control of [[Waspinator]]&#039;s body, she was right next to him when he betrayed Megatron, betraying Starscream &#039;&#039;back&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Possession}}. When she aided Tarantulas in breaking into the &#039;&#039;Axalon&#039;&#039; to acquire a stasis pod for conversion into an escape ship, she took over after a following Inferno incapacitated Tarantulas, intending to take the ship for herself. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 1}} Unfortunately for her, this deception backfired on her in the form of a forced mind link between her and Tarantulas, which remained until she forced the spider into breaking it. {{storylink|Tangled Web}} When Tarantulus forced her to investigate Megatron&#039;s [[Golden Disk]] backups, she waited until Tarantulus was occupied to download and encrypt the recoverable information. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blackarachnia_fightback.jpg|right|thumb|Spousal abuse!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When the Vok were moments away from returning, Tarantulus and Blackarachnia both again teamed up in an attempt to flee the dying planet. Megatron, already aware of the next move, used their deceptive tendancies against them, and acted unaware of their treachary. As they built their escape ship, he installed his own variant on the design, making it unescapable once sealed and in space. Though it did not destroy either of them, the result was even better; [[Optimus Primal]]. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 2}} Blackarachnia&#039;s wits saved her, as she convinced Megatron that he would need soldiers, which gave him reason to spare her life. {{storylink|Aftermath}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When an energon blast sent her and Silverbolt into the middle of the dense jungles, they were forced to work together. Blackarachnia, though attracted to him, was endlessly frustrated by his seemingly idiotic chivalry and need to treat her special. Megatron, listening in to their commlink chatter, was disgusted by the obvious romance going on. Blackarachnia, though she held it under a firm charade of bitter irritation, rather liked the treatment and affection. {{storylink|Bad Spark}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BA_Silverbolt_Agenda3.jpg|left|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron sent Waspinator to the location of the Ark. Blackarachnia, realizing what it meant, abandoned her post and went instead. Silverbolt followed her, and stubbornly refused to leave her alone. Exhausted and in a hurry, she conceded and told him to dig. The two broke through the mountainside, just as Megatron - having broke free from [[Ravage]], arrived. Megatron knew Blackarachnia had the codes to the Golden Disk that would allow them to get by the Ark&#039;s security systems, and he threatened to vape Silverbolt. Bitterly, she agreed to his demands. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarachnia used the Ark&#039;s security system to cover Megatron&#039;s back, not sure of what he was planning. Once he fired upon [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], history began to change, wiping out all Maximals...which included herself. Not willing to die for Megatron, she activated [[Teletraan-1]]&#039;s security nets to force Megatron off the ship. With Silverbolt&#039;s help, they got the dying Autobot leader under life support and begun the repairs. The Maximals, recognizing what she had done, reluctantly allowed her to join their ranks. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TM2 Blackarachnia.jpg|right|thumb|Calender Bot]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, Blackarachnia took the [[Transmetal driver]] and attempted to use it on herself. Silverbolt, not realizing what she was planning, bailed her out of the contraption. Like every good girlfriend, she began to chew him out, but was cut off as an energy surge made her lose control of her circuts. A security system Tarantulus installed had been triggered by her tampering with her core, and the only way to fix it was to cut the Predacon [[shell program]] loose. Reluctantly, she agreed. An attack on the Maximal base disrupted the attempt, and she was deactivated.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Distraught, Silverbolt took off to avenge her death. He easily subdued Tarantulus, and was moments away from executing him when [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] attacked him. Blackarachnia, with her new and improved Transmetal 2 body, easily fought him off and rescued Silverbolt. {{storylink|Crossing the Rubicon}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Voice Actress:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Venus Terzo]] (US), [[Ryōka Yuzuki]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Beast Machines, Blackarachnia was distraught and confused - she was locked out of her robot mode, back in her original body, all of her allies were gone, Silverbolt had vanished, and she was being attacked by what looked like Cybertronian guards.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
She had a relatively easy time adapting to her new technorganic form, but she was still frustrated by the loss of Silverbolt. When [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] saved her life, having strange recollections of doing so before, her mind was set - he was Silverbolt, mutated and made evil by Megatron. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Using some of the organic fluid from the Cybertronian core, she trapped Thrust in some of her webs and forced his inner personality out, begging for Silverbolt to answer. The reply was not quite what she was looking for.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Waspinator|&amp;quot;Doggie-bot not home!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When [[Jetstorm]] attacked, he also was caught up in some of her organic goo, and his true personality came out, sweeping Blackarachnia in his arms. Silverbolt returned, but just for a moment. The goo vanished, and their Vehicon minds returned.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, Blackarachina managed to force Jetstorm into a large pool of the organic goo, and his body began to change. Scanning a nearby vulture skeleton, he awoke in a new body. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarachnia was startled by the change in him. Instead of the lovable chivalrous knight in shining armor, he was a brittle, haunted bot, tormented by the images of the evil deeds he did, and did by choice. Though he gave up on himself, she never did, urging Silverbolt to forgive his past.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Comics Continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===3H Tales of the Beast Wars Comics===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===3H Universe Comic===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TFU Blackarachnia vs Rattrap.jpg|left|thumb|Awww, did I do that?  Whoopsie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Beast Wars Metals Manga===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blackarach24.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Keeping something OUT of her crotch, for once.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Note: Although it picks up after the first season, the Beast Wars Metals manga is &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; in-continuity with the TV series.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarachnia appeared through-out the Beast Wars Metals manga as a Predacon warrior, much as she did in the TV series.  Unlike most characters, however, her design underwent the smallest change.  While most characters got re-designs for laughs, the only change in Blackarachnia would appear that she&#039;s a bit smaller and &amp;quot;cuter&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers Legends Anthology===&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Beast Wars===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 1995)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;D-8&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Blackarachnia&#039;s original toy was a [[redeco]] of the [[Tarantulas]] mold, transforming into a rather generic-looking organic spider. It features a removable spring-loaded launcher hidden in its beast-mode abdomen; it nominally fires the &amp;quot;grappling hook&amp;quot; attached to its abdomen, but its front four beast-mode legs could also be removed and used as missiles.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Happy Meal Transmetal, 1997)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Part of the second McDonalds &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; Happy Meal pack-in, Blackarachnia&#039;s &amp;quot;[[Transmetal]]&amp;quot; form rather resembles some sort of dust mite more than a spider and the robot mode appears to have fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Transmetal 2, 1999)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;C-48&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: The Transmetal 2 version of Blackarachnia transforms into a large organic/mechincal monstrous spider, featuring a grappling hook, switching [[Faction symbols|faction symbols]], and a spin-kick action feature. This toy was initially hard to find at retail, as one of the toy&#039;s features, a piece of removable chest armor (no, really), was altered slightly, delaying later shipments.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: This mold was used to make the [[BotCon 2000]] [[exclusive]] [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Beast Machines===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2000)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: An early toy in the &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; line, Blackarachnia transforms into a [[technorganic]] spider. In spider mode, squeezing its pedipalps together raised its central fangs; they were spring-loaded to release and lower, respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: This mold was used to make [[Crystal Widow]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarchnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Happy Meal, 2000)&lt;br /&gt;
: Happy Meal Balckrachnia is a super-simplified version of her retail toy, with a coloration much closer to the [[Mainframe (company)|Mainframe]] CGI model.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackwidow&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2005)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;BR-04&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Part of the Japanese Toys &#039;R&#039; Us [[exclusive]] &#039;&#039;Beast Wars Returns&#039;&#039; series, this toy is a redeco of the orignial &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; Blackarachnia in a more show-like maroon coloration.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Universe===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2003)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: For &#039;&#039;[[Universe]]&#039;&#039;, Blackarachnia returned as a [[Decepticon]], and as a redeco of the original &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; figure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: This mold was used to make [[Crystal Widow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Unreleased===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:blackwidowwildrider.jpg|right|thumb|Honda wouldn&#039;t appreciate their car being hot, poisonous, and deadly.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: In 2004, a group of test-shots made their way onto ebay, among them a [[redeco]] of the original &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; Tarantulas/Blackarachnia mold in black with silver spider-legs and salmon-colored robot parts. Later, Hasbro&#039;s official website checklist featured listings for two &amp;quot;Halloween Horrorcon Value Packs&amp;quot; that were to be Wal*Mart [[exclusive]]s... which also likely explains why they were cancelled. (Wal*Mart had taken a good half-dozen exclusives and released them more-or-less simultaneously, leading to a huge glut. A lot of other &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; exclusives were cancelled during the &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; era.) One of the sets was &amp;quot;[[Leatherhide]] Vs. Blackarachnia&amp;quot;... and thus, the mystery spider was confirmed, as the other test-shots in that group lined up with the name listings given in the sets.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: In 2005, the mold used for &#039;&#039;[[Alternators]]&#039;&#039; [[Decepticharge]] was presented as an upcoming release for the Japanese &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; line. Though a bio and story chapter was written to accomodate it into the &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; fiction, it was ultimately dropped when the toy was put on indefinite haitus due to low line sales.  A single Photoshoped promotional image was released of the item.  It has not been revealed as to how the story would have dealt with this time-displaced character addition, and is unliekly to, as &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; author [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]] is unlikely to reveal confidential work-for-hire pieces, since he still works for Takara.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* Reportedly, Blackarachnia&#039;s show model was inspired by a Asian stripper at a club that some Mainframe folks had taken the modeler to a few days before as um... ahem, &#039;&#039;inspiration&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BL2.jpg|125px|left|thumb|Metal.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Blackarachnia&#039;s original Beast Wars card art has her wearing a spike-studded collar.  Dirty girl.  Dirty, dirty girl.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* After her transformation into a Transmetal 2 in the cartoon, Blackarachnia gained some kind of telekinetic powers, which was only shown once in the show, when she levitated a steel girder in the Maximal Base to take out Rampage. It&#039;s not mentioned in the show exactly &#039;&#039;how&#039;&#039; Blackarachnia gained such power, nor is it explained anywhere why she only used it that one time, though it is likely that her former mind-link with Tarantulas had something to do with it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Predacon/Blackarachnia/blackarachnia.htm Blackarachnia at TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Blackarachnia (BW)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia is a [[Predacon]], [[Maximal]], and a [[Decepticon]] in the [[Beast Era]] [[continuity family]]. She&#039;s a busy girl, huh?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blackarachniabw.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hot, poisonous, and deadly.  Rowr!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A sultry femme fatale, &#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; is smart, sexy, and dangerous.  She&#039;s got eight legs, and she knows how to use them.  Of the several rebellious Predacons under [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]&#039;s command, she&#039;s one of the very few who can, on occasion, outguile him.  Always looking out for Number One, Blackarachnia values her independence and freedom above all else.  She would rather be deactivated than be a slave.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarchnia&#039;s greatest weakness, other than her overconfidence, is her feelings for the Maximal [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]].  Something about his heroic demeanor and the kindness he shows her makes her uneasy.  She hasn&#039;t experienced unconditional love before, and it scares her, though she&#039;ll never admit it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Spanish name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Araña Negra&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Blackwidow&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;French-Canadian names&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Mygale&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;La Veuve Noire&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animated Continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Voice Actress:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Venus Terzo]] (US), [[Ryōka Yuzuki]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blackarachnia_A_shame.jpg|left|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarachnia was born from one of the [[Maximal]] fallen [[Stasis pod]]s. [[Tarantulus]], watching a black widow fight and devour another spider, was inspired. [[Megatron (BW)]], observing the slim and attractive Blackarachnia transform and strike a few poses, suggested that he had &amp;quot;ulterior motives behind her beast form selection.&amp;quot; But, she was a Predacon, and that was what was important. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarachnia made herself reknowned among the ranks of both the Maximals and Predacons as a severe headache to Megatron. When Tarantulus found out about the [[Vok]], he tried to craft a stasis pod escape ship for himself, and she was there to forge a partnership {{storylink|Spider&#039;s Game}}. When [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] and Blackarachnia journeyed to the island, she was there to shove him out of the way and take control of the island herself, only defeated by [[Tigatron]] {{storylink|The Trigger, Part 1}}. When [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] took control of [[Waspinator]]&#039;s body, she was right next to him when he betrayed Megatron, betraying Starscream &#039;&#039;back&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Possession}}. When Tarantulus forced her to investigate Megatron&#039;s [[Golden Disk]] backups, she waited until Tarantulus was occupied to download and encrypt the recoverable information. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blackarachnia_fightback.jpg|right|thumb|Spousal abuse!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When the Vok were moments away from returning, Tarantulus and Blackarachnia both again teamed up in an attempt to flee the dying planet. Megatron, already aware of the next move, used their deceptive tendancies against them, and acted unaware of their treachary. As they built their escape ship, he installed his own variant on the design, making it unescapable once sealed and in space. Though it did not destroy either of them, the result was even better; [[Optimus Primal]]. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 2}} Blackarachnia&#039;s wits saved her, as she convinced Megatron that he would need soldiers, which gave him reason to spare her life. {{storylink|Aftermath}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When an energon blast sent her and Silverbolt into the middle of the dense jungles, they were forced to work together. Blackarachnia, though attracted to him, was endlessly frustrated by his seemingly idiotic chivalry and need to treat her special. Megatron, listening in to their commlink chatter, was disgusted by the obvious romance going on. Blackarachnia, though she held it under a firm charade of bitter irritation, rather liked the treatment and affection. {{storylink|Bad Spark}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BA_Silverbolt_Agenda3.jpg|left|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron sent Waspinator to the location of the Ark. Blackarachnia, realizing what it meant, abandoned her post and went instead. Silverbolt followed her, and stubbornly refused to leave her alone. Exhausted and in a hurry, she conceded and told him to dig. The two broke through the mountainside, just as Megatron - having broke free from [[Ravage]], arrived. Megatron knew Blackarachnia had the codes to the Golden Disk that would allow them to get by the Ark&#039;s security systems, and he threatened to vape Silverbolt. Bitterly, she agreed to his demands. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarachnia used the Ark&#039;s security system to cover Megatron&#039;s back, not sure of what he was planning. Once he fired upon [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], history began to change, wiping out all Maximals...which included herself. Not willing to die for Megatron, she activated [[Teletraan-1]]&#039;s security nets to force Megatron off the ship. With Silverbolt&#039;s help, they got the dying Autobot leader under life support and begun the repairs. The Maximals, recognizing what she had done, reluctantly allowed her to join their ranks. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TM2 Blackarachnia.jpg|right|thumb|Calender Bot]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, Blackarachnia took the [[Transmetal driver]] and attempted to use it on herself. Silverbolt, not realizing what she was planning, bailed her out of the contraption. Like every good girlfriend, she began to chew him out, but was cut off as an energy surge made her lose control of her circuts. A security system Tarantulus installed had been triggered by her tampering with her core, and the only way to fix it was to cut the Predacon [[shell program]] loose. Reluctantly, she agreed. An attack on the Maximal base disrupted the attempt, and she was deactivated.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Distraught, Silverbolt took off to avenge her death. He easily subdued Tarantulus, and was moments away from executing him when [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] attacked him. Blackarachnia, with her new and improved Transmetal 2 body, easily fought him off and rescued Silverbolt. {{storylink|Crossing the Rubicon}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Voice Actress:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Venus Terzo]] (US), [[Ryōka Yuzuki]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Beast Machines, Blackarachnia was distraught and confused - she was locked out of her robot mode, back in her original body, all of her allies were gone, Silverbolt had vanished, and she was being attacked by what looked like Cybertronian guards.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
She had a relatively easy time adapting to her new technorganic form, but she was still frustrated by the loss of Silverbolt. When [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] saved her life, having strange recollections of doing so before, her mind was set - he was Silverbolt, mutated and made evil by Megatron. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Using some of the organic fluid from the Cybertronian core, she trapped Thrust in some of her webs and forced his inner personality out, begging for Silverbolt to answer. The reply was not quite what she was looking for.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Waspinator|&amp;quot;Doggie-bot not home!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When [[Jetstorm]] attacked, he also was caught up in some of her organic goo, and his true personality came out, sweeping Blackarachnia in his arms. Silverbolt returned, but just for a moment. The goo vanished, and their Vehicon minds returned.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, Blackarachina managed to force Jetstorm into a large pool of the organic goo, and his body began to change. Scanning a nearby vulture skeleton, he awoke in a new body. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarachnia was startled by the change in him. Instead of the lovable chivalrous knight in shining armor, he was a brittle, haunted bot, tormented by the images of the evil deeds he did, and did by choice. Though he gave up on himself, she never did, urging Silverbolt to forgive his past.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Comics Continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===3H Tales of the Beast Wars Comics===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===3H Universe Comic===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TFU Blackarachnia vs Rattrap.jpg|left|thumb|Awww, did I do that?  Whoopsie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Beast Wars Metals Manga===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blackarach24.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Keeping something OUT of her crotch, for once.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Note: Although it picks up after the first season, the Beast Wars Metals manga is &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; in-continuity with the TV series.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarachnia appeared through-out the Beast Wars Metals manga as a Predacon warrior, much as she did in the TV series.  Unlike most characters, however, her design underwent the smallest change.  While most characters got re-designs for laughs, the only change in Blackarachnia would appear that she&#039;s a bit smaller and &amp;quot;cuter&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers Legends Anthology===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Beast Wars===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 1995)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;D-8&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: Blackarachnia&#039;s original toy was a [[redeco]] of the [[Tarantulas]] mold, transforming into a rather generic-looking organic spider. It features a removable spring-loaded launcher hidden in its beast-mode abdomen; it nominally fires the &amp;quot;grappling hook&amp;quot; attached to its abdomen, but its front four beast-mode legs could also be removed and used as missiles.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Happy Meal Transmetal, 1997)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Part of the second McDonalds &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; Happy Meal pack-in, Blackarachnia&#039;s &amp;quot;[[Transmetal]]&amp;quot; form rather resembles some sort of dust mite more than a spider and the robot mode appears to have fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Transmetal 2, 1999)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;C-48&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: The Transmetal 2 version of Blackarachnia transforms into a large organic/mechincal monstrous spider, featuring a grappling hook, switching [[Faction symbols|faction symbols]], and a spin-kick action feature. This toy was initially hard to find at retail, as one of the toy&#039;s features, a piece of removable chest armor (no, really), was altered slightly, delaying later shipments.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This mold was used to make the [[BotCon 2000]] [[exclusive]] [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Beast Machines===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2000)&lt;br /&gt;
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: An early toy in the &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; line, Blackarachnia transforms into a [[technorganic]] spider. In spider mode, squeezing its pedipalps together raised its central fangs; they were spring-loaded to release and lower, respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This mold was used to make [[Crystal Widow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarchnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Happy Meal, 2000)&lt;br /&gt;
: Happy Meal Balckrachnia is a super-simplified version of her retail toy, with a coloration much closer to the [[Mainframe (company)|Mainframe]] CGI model.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackwidow&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2005)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;BR-04&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: Part of the Japanese Toys &#039;R&#039; Us [[exclusive]] &#039;&#039;Beast Wars Returns&#039;&#039; series, this toy is a redeco of the orignial &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; Blackarachnia in a more show-like maroon coloration.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Universe===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2003)&lt;br /&gt;
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: For &#039;&#039;[[Universe]]&#039;&#039;, Blackarachnia returned as a [[Decepticon]], and as a redeco of the original &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; figure.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This mold was used to make [[Crystal Widow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Unreleased===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:blackwidowwildrider.jpg|right|thumb|Honda wouldn&#039;t appreciate their car being hot, poisonous, and deadly.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: In 2004, a group of test-shots made their way onto ebay, among them a [[redeco]] of the original &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; Tarantulas/Blackarachnia mold in black with silver spider-legs and salmon-colored robot parts. Later, Hasbro&#039;s official website checklist featured listings for two &amp;quot;Halloween Horrorcon Value Packs&amp;quot; that were to be Wal*Mart [[exclusive]]s... which also likely explains why they were cancelled. (Wal*Mart had taken a good half-dozen exclusives and released them more-or-less simultaneously, leading to a huge glut. A lot of other &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; exclusives were cancelled during the &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; era.) One of the sets was &amp;quot;[[Leatherhide]] Vs. Blackarachnia&amp;quot;... and thus, the mystery spider was confirmed, as the other test-shots in that group lined up with the name listings given in the sets.&lt;br /&gt;
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: In 2005, the mold used for &#039;&#039;[[Alternators]]&#039;&#039; [[Decepticharge]] was presented as an upcoming release for the Japanese &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; line. Though a bio and story chapter was written to accomodate it into the &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; fiction, it was ultimately dropped when the toy was put on indefinite haitus due to low line sales.  A single Photoshoped promotional image was released of the item.  It has not been revealed as to how the story would have dealt with this time-displaced character addition, and is unliekly to, as &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; author [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]] is unlikely to reveal confidential work-for-hire pieces, since he still works for Takara.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* Reportedly, Blackarachnia&#039;s show model was inspired by a Asian stripper at a club that some Mainframe folks had taken the modeler to a few days before as um... ahem, &#039;&#039;inspiration&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BL2.jpg|125px|left|thumb|Metal.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Blackarachnia&#039;s original Beast Wars card art has her wearing a spike-studded collar.  Dirty girl.  Dirty, dirty girl.&lt;br /&gt;
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* After her transformation into a Transmetal 2 in the cartoon, Blackarachnia gained some kind of telekinetic powers, which was only shown once in the show, when she levitated a steel girder in the Maximal Base to take out Rampage. It&#039;s not mentioned in the show exactly &#039;&#039;how&#039;&#039; Blackarachnia gained such power, nor is it explained anywhere why she only used it that one time, though it is likely that her former mind-link with Tarantulas had something to do with it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Predacon/Blackarachnia/blackarachnia.htm Blackarachnia at TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;AMBIGUITY IS THE FLAVOR OR LIFE!&lt;br /&gt;
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YOU WOULD ROB US OF OUR MYSTERIES!&lt;br /&gt;
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Dumping everything written was not required, unless Wikipedia automatically saves what I have written somewhere.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Autobot Officer==&lt;br /&gt;
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Uh. Oopsies? Didn&#039;t know you were getting pics, too. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 21:50, 2 December 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Americanised spelling ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi there, PacifistPrime the originator of the [[Scale]] article here. Thanks for cleaning up some of the typos. However, is it really neccessary to &amp;quot;correct&amp;quot; all my spelling by changing it to Americanised spelling? Is there actually a rule here that one has to use American spelling instead of, well... to be frank: the way the rest of world&#039;s users of the English Language spell? No offence intended, just asking. Let me know. [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]]&lt;br /&gt;
:I would think &amp;quot;yes&amp;quot;, since this is an Amerocentric wiki and consistency looks professional. I don&#039;t realistically believe we&#039;ll ever achieve that because there are too many people from too many regions contributing, and further there are a lot of variations in how people type regardless of what area they&#039;re from. I can&#039;t stand putting two spaces between sentences, but I wouldn&#039;t be offended if someone changed a page I worked on to use them. -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==What edit are you talking about?==&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;re talking about my submission about Blackarachnia&#039;s telekinesis, it is NOT baseless speculation; she did use telekinesis in Master Blaster against Rampage, and although they never said where she got it, it is very likely that the psychic link she had with Tarantulas was upgraded during her Transmetalization. Watch the episode; you&#039;ll see Blackarachnia&#039;s eyes glow green, levitate an I-beam, and fling it at Rampage. The episode was right after Crossing the Rubicon (where Blackarachnia became a TM2), and 18 episodes after Tangled Web, when Blackarachnia forced Tarantulas to terminate their mind link after four episodes (and in case you want to contest it, Other Visits made a mention of the mind link, and how it worked both ways, meaning that BA had some remnants of the link, at the very least some of Tarantulas&#039; memories, if not some other side effects).[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 15:40, 30 April 2007 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia is a [[Predacon]], [[Maximal]], and a [[Decepticon]] in the [[Beast Era]] [[continuity family]]. She&#039;s a busy girl, huh?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Blackarachniabw.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hot, poisonous, and deadly.  Rowr!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A sultry femme fatale, &#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; is smart, sexy, and dangerous.  She&#039;s got eight legs, and she knows how to use them.  Of the several rebellious Predacons under [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]&#039;s command, she&#039;s one of the very few who can, on occasion, outguile him.  Always looking out for Number One, Blackarachnia values her independence and freedom above all else.  She would rather be deactivated than be a slave.&lt;br /&gt;
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Blackarchnia&#039;s greatest weakness, other than her overconfidence, is her feelings for the Maximal [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]].  Something about his heroic demeanor and the kindness he shows her makes her uneasy.  She hasn&#039;t experienced unconditional love before, and it scares her, though she&#039;ll never admit it.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Spanish name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Araña Negra&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Blackwidow&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;French-Canadian names&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Mygale&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;La Veuve Noire&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animated Continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Voice Actress:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Venus Terzo]] (US), [[Ryōka Yuzuki]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Blackarachnia_A_shame.jpg|left|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Blackarachnia was born from one of the [[Maximal]] fallen [[Stasis pod]]s. [[Tarantulus]], watching a black widow fight and devour another spider, was inspired. [[Megatron (BW)]], observing the slim and attractive Blackarachnia transform and strike a few poses, suggested that he had &amp;quot;ulterior motives behind her beast form selection.&amp;quot; But, she was a Predacon, and that was what was important. &lt;br /&gt;
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Blackarachnia made herself reknowned among the ranks of both the Maximals and Predacons as a severe headache to Megatron. When Tarantulus found out about the [[Vok]], he tried to craft a stasis pod escape ship for himself, and she was there to forge a partnership {{storylink|Spider&#039;s Game}}. When [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] and Blackarachnia journeyed to the island, she was there to shove him out of the way and take control of the island herself, only defeated by [[Tigatron]] {{storylink|The Trigger, Part 1}}. When [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] took control of [[Waspinator]]&#039;s body, she was right next to him when he betrayed Megatron, betraying Starscream &#039;&#039;back&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Possession}}. When Tarantulus forced her to investigate Megatron&#039;s [[Golden Disk]] backups, she waited until Tarantulus was occupied to download and encrypt the recoverable information. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Blackarachnia_fightback.jpg|right|thumb|Spousal abuse!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When the Vok were moments away from returning, Tarantulus and Blackarachnia both again teamed up in an attempt to flee the dying planet. Megatron, already aware of the next move, used their deceptive tendancies against them, and acted unaware of their treachary. As they built their escape ship, he installed his own variant on the design, making it unescapable once sealed and in space. Though it did not destroy either of them, the result was even better; [[Optimus Primal]]. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 2}} Blackarachnia&#039;s wits saved her, as she convinced Megatron that he would need soldiers, which gave him reason to spare her life. {{storylink|Aftermath}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When an energon blast sent her and Silverbolt into the middle of the dense jungles, they were forced to work together. Blackarachnia, though attracted to him, was endlessly frustrated by his seemingly idiotic chivalry and need to treat her special. Megatron, listening in to their commlink chatter, was disgusted by the obvious romance going on. Blackarachnia, though she held it under a firm charade of bitter irritation, rather liked the treatment and affection. {{storylink|Bad Spark}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BA_Silverbolt_Agenda3.jpg|left|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron sent Waspinator to the location of the Ark. Blackarachnia, realizing what it meant, abandoned her post and went instead. Silverbolt followed her, and stubbornly refused to leave her alone. Exhausted and in a hurry, she conceded and told him to dig. The two broke through the mountainside, just as Megatron - having broke free from [[Ravage]], arrived. Megatron knew Blackarachnia had the codes to the Golden Disk that would allow them to get by the Ark&#039;s security systems, and he threatened to vape Silverbolt. Bitterly, she agreed to his demands. &lt;br /&gt;
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Blackarachnia used the Ark&#039;s security system to cover Megatron&#039;s back, not sure of what he was planning. Once he fired upon [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], history began to change, wiping out all Maximals...which included herself. Not willing to die for Megatron, she activated [[Teletraan-1]]&#039;s security nets to force Megatron off the ship. With Silverbolt&#039;s help, they got the dying Autobot leader under life support and begun the repairs. The Maximals, recognizing what she had done, reluctantly allowed her to join their ranks. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TM2 Blackarachnia.jpg|right|thumb|Calender Bot]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, Blackarachnia took the [[Transmetal driver]] and attempted to use it on herself. Silverbolt, not realizing what she was planning, bailed her out of the contraption. Like every good girlfriend, she began to chew him out, but was cut off as an energy surge made her lose control of her circuts. A security system Tarantulus installed had been triggered by her tampering with her core, and the only way to fix it was to cut the Predacon [[shell program]] loose. Reluctantly, she agreed. An attack on the Maximal base disrupted the attempt, and she was deactivated.&lt;br /&gt;
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Distraught, Silverbolt took off to avenge her death. He easily subdued Tarantulus, and was moments away from executing him when [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] attacked him. Blackarachnia, with her new and improved Transmetal 2 body, easily fought him off and rescued Silverbolt. {{storylink|Crossing the Rubicon}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Voice Actress:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Venus Terzo]] (US), [[Ryōka Yuzuki]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
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In Beast Machines, Blackarachnia was distraught and confused - she was locked out of her robot mode, back in her original body, all of her allies were gone, Silverbolt had vanished, and she was being attacked by what looked like Cybertronian guards.&lt;br /&gt;
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She had a relatively easy time adapting to her new technorganic form, but she was still frustrated by the loss of Silverbolt. When [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] saved her life, having strange recollections of doing so before, her mind was set - he was Silverbolt, mutated and made evil by Megatron. &lt;br /&gt;
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Using some of the organic fluid from the Cybertronian core, she trapped Thrust in some of her webs and forced his inner personality out, begging for Silverbolt to answer. The reply was not quite what she was looking for.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Waspinator|&amp;quot;Doggie-bot not home!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When [[Jetstorm]] attacked, he also was caught up in some of her organic goo, and his true personality came out, sweeping Blackarachnia in his arms. Silverbolt returned, but just for a moment. The goo vanished, and their Vehicon minds returned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, Blackarachina managed to force Jetstorm into a large pool of the organic goo, and his body began to change. Scanning a nearby vulture skeleton, he awoke in a new body. &lt;br /&gt;
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Blackarachnia was startled by the change in him. Instead of the lovable chivalrous knight in shining armor, he was a brittle, haunted bot, tormented by the images of the evil deeds he did, and did by choice. Though he gave up on himself, she never did, urging Silverbolt to forgive his past.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Comics Continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
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===3H Tales of the Beast Wars Comics===&lt;br /&gt;
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===3H Universe Comic===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TFU Blackarachnia vs Rattrap.jpg|left|thumb|Awww, did I do that?  Whoopsie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Beast Wars Metals Manga===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Blackarach24.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Keeping something OUT of her crotch, for once.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;(Note: Although it picks up after the first season, the Beast Wars Metals manga is &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; in-continuity with the TV series.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Blackarachnia appeared through-out the Beast Wars Metals manga as a Predacon warrior, much as she did in the TV series.  Unlike most characters, however, her design underwent the smallest change.  While most characters got re-designs for laughs, the only change in Blackarachnia would appear that she&#039;s a bit smaller and &amp;quot;cuter&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers Legends Anthology===&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Beast Wars===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 1995)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;D-8&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: Blackarachnia&#039;s original toy was a [[redeco]] of the [[Tarantulas]] mold, transforming into a rather generic-looking organic spider. It features a removable spring-loaded launcher hidden in its beast-mode abdomen; it nominally fires the &amp;quot;grappling hook&amp;quot; attached to its abdomen, but its front four beast-mode legs could also be removed and used as missiles.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Happy Meal Transmetal, 1997)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Part of the second McDonalds &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; Happy Meal pack-in, Blackarachnia&#039;s &amp;quot;[[Transmetal]]&amp;quot; form rather resembles some sort of dust mite more than a spider and the robot mode appears to have fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Transmetal 2, 1999)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;C-48&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: The Transmetal 2 version of Blackarachnia transforms into a large organic/mechincal monstrous spider, featuring a grappling hook, switching [[Faction symbols|faction symbols]], and a spin-kick action feature. This toy was initially hard to find at retail, as one of the toy&#039;s features, a piece of removable chest armor (no, really), was altered slightly, delaying later shipments.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This mold was used to make the [[BotCon 2000]] [[exclusive]] [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Beast Machines===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2000)&lt;br /&gt;
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: An early toy in the &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; line, Blackarachnia transforms into a [[technorganic]] spider. In spider mode, squeezing its pedipalps together raised its central fangs; they were spring-loaded to release and lower, respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This mold was used to make [[Crystal Widow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarchnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Happy Meal, 2000)&lt;br /&gt;
: Happy Meal Balckrachnia is a super-simplified version of her retail toy, with a coloration much closer to the [[Mainframe (company)|Mainframe]] CGI model.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackwidow&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2005)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;BR-04&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: Part of the Japanese Toys &#039;R&#039; Us [[exclusive]] &#039;&#039;Beast Wars Returns&#039;&#039; series, this toy is a redeco of the orignial &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; Blackarachnia in a more show-like maroon coloration.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Universe===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2003)&lt;br /&gt;
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: For &#039;&#039;[[Universe]]&#039;&#039;, Blackarachnia returned as a [[Decepticon]], and as a redeco of the original &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; figure.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This mold was used to make [[Crystal Widow]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Unreleased===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:blackwidowwildrider.jpg|right|thumb|Honda wouldn&#039;t appreciate their car being hot, poisonous, and deadly.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: In 2004, a group of test-shots made their way onto ebay, among them a [[redeco]] of the original &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; Tarantulas/Blackarachnia mold in black with silver spider-legs and salmon-colored robot parts. Later, Hasbro&#039;s official website checklist featured listings for two &amp;quot;Halloween Horrorcon Value Packs&amp;quot; that were to be Wal*Mart [[exclusive]]s... which also likely explains why they were cancelled. (Wal*Mart had taken a good half-dozen exclusives and released them more-or-less simultaneously, leading to a huge glut. A lot of other &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; exclusives were cancelled during the &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; era.) One of the sets was &amp;quot;[[Leatherhide]] Vs. Blackarachnia&amp;quot;... and thus, the mystery spider was confirmed, as the other test-shots in that group lined up with the name listings given in the sets.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: In 2005, the mold used for &#039;&#039;[[Alternators]]&#039;&#039; [[Decepticharge]] was presented as an upcoming release for the Japanese &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; line. Though a bio and story chapter was written to accomodate it into the &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; fiction, it was ultimately dropped when the toy was put on indefinite haitus due to low line sales.  A single Photoshoped promotional image was released of the item.  It has not been revealed as to how the story would have dealt with this time-displaced character addition, and is unliekly to, as &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; author [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]] is unlikely to reveal confidential work-for-hire pieces, since he still works for Takara.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* Reportedly, Blackarachnia&#039;s show model was inspired by a Asian stripper at a club that some Mainframe folks had taken the modeler to a few days before as um... ahem, &#039;&#039;inspiration&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BL2.jpg|125px|left|thumb|Metal.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Blackarachnia&#039;s original Beast Wars card art has her wearing a spike-studded collar.  Dirty girl.  Dirty, dirty girl.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Blackarachnia&#039;s latent telekinesis, mentioned in her Transmetal 2 tech specs, was only shown once in the show, when she levitated a steel girder in the Maximal Base to take out Rampage. It&#039;s not mentioned in the tech specs or the show exactly &#039;&#039;how&#039;&#039; Blackarachnia gained such power, nor is it explained anywhere why she only used it that one time. Show-wise, though, it seems to be a by-product of her forced mind-meld with Tarantulas. I guess having a crazed arachnid in your noggin &#039;&#039;does&#039;&#039; have its benefits...&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Predacon/Blackarachnia/blackarachnia.htm Blackarachnia at TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: Female Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Maximals]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Minions of Unicron]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Predacons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Transmetals]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Transmetals 2]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Turncoats]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Universe characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Blackarachnia (BW)</title>
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		<updated>2007-04-29T09:27:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;66.233.183.59: /* Trivia */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia is a [[Predacon]], [[Maximal]], and a [[Decepticon]] in the [[Beast Era]] [[continuity family]]. She&#039;s a busy girl, huh?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blackarachniabw.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hot, poisonous, and deadly.  Rowr!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A sultry femme fatale, &#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; is smart, sexy, and dangerous.  She&#039;s got eight legs, and she knows how to use them.  Of the several rebellious Predacons under [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]&#039;s command, she&#039;s one of the very few who can, on occasion, outguile him.  Always looking out for Number One, Blackarachnia values her independence and freedom above all else.  She would rather be deactivated than be a slave.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarchnia&#039;s greatest weakness, other than her overconfidence, is her feelings for the Maximal [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]].  Something about his heroic demeanor and the kindness he shows her makes her uneasy.  She hasn&#039;t experienced unconditional love before, and it scares her, though she&#039;ll never admit it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Spanish name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Araña Negra&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Blackwidow&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;French-Canadian names&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Mygale&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;La Veuve Noire&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animated Continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Voice Actress:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Venus Terzo]] (US), [[Ryōka Yuzuki]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blackarachnia_A_shame.jpg|left|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Blackarachnia was born from one of the [[Maximal]] fallen [[Stasis pod]]s. [[Tarantulus]], watching a black widow fight and devour another spider, was inspired. [[Megatron (BW)]], observing the slim and attractive Blackarachnia transform and strike a few poses, suggested that he had &amp;quot;ulterior motives behind her beast form selection.&amp;quot; But, she was a Predacon, and that was what was important. &lt;br /&gt;
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Blackarachnia made herself reknowned among the ranks of both the Maximals and Predacons as a severe headache to Megatron. When Tarantulus found out about the [[Vok]], he tried to craft a stasis pod escape ship for himself, and she was there to forge a partnership {{storylink|Spider&#039;s Game}}. When [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] and Blackarachnia journeyed to the island, she was there to shove him out of the way and take control of the island herself, only defeated by [[Tigatron]] {{storylink|The Trigger, Part 1}}. When [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] took control of [[Waspinator]]&#039;s body, she was right next to him when he betrayed Megatron, betraying Starscream &#039;&#039;back&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Possession}}. When Tarantulus forced her to investigate Megatron&#039;s [[Golden Disk]] backups, she waited until Tarantulus was occupied to download and encrypt the recoverable information. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Blackarachnia_fightback.jpg|right|thumb|Spousal abuse!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When the Vok were moments away from returning, Tarantulus and Blackarachnia both again teamed up in an attempt to flee the dying planet. Megatron, already aware of the next move, used their deceptive tendancies against them, and acted unaware of their treachary. As they built their escape ship, he installed his own variant on the design, making it unescapable once sealed and in space. Though it did not destroy either of them, the result was even better; [[Optimus Primal]]. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 2}} Blackarachnia&#039;s wits saved her, as she convinced Megatron that he would need soldiers, which gave him reason to spare her life. {{storylink|Aftermath}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When an energon blast sent her and Silverbolt into the middle of the dense jungles, they were forced to work together. Blackarachnia, though attracted to him, was endlessly frustrated by his seemingly idiotic chivalry and need to treat her special. Megatron, listening in to their commlink chatter, was disgusted by the obvious romance going on. Blackarachnia, though she held it under a firm charade of bitter irritation, rather liked the treatment and affection. {{storylink|Bad Spark}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BA_Silverbolt_Agenda3.jpg|left|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron sent Waspinator to the location of the Ark. Blackarachnia, realizing what it meant, abandoned her post and went instead. Silverbolt followed her, and stubbornly refused to leave her alone. Exhausted and in a hurry, she conceded and told him to dig. The two broke through the mountainside, just as Megatron - having broke free from [[Ravage]], arrived. Megatron knew Blackarachnia had the codes to the Golden Disk that would allow them to get by the Ark&#039;s security systems, and he threatened to vape Silverbolt. Bitterly, she agreed to his demands. &lt;br /&gt;
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Blackarachnia used the Ark&#039;s security system to cover Megatron&#039;s back, not sure of what he was planning. Once he fired upon [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], history began to change, wiping out all Maximals...which included herself. Not willing to die for Megatron, she activated [[Teletraan-1]]&#039;s security nets to force Megatron off the ship. With Silverbolt&#039;s help, they got the dying Autobot leader under life support and begun the repairs. The Maximals, recognizing what she had done, reluctantly allowed her to join their ranks. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TM2 Blackarachnia.jpg|right|thumb|Calender Bot]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, Blackarachnia took the [[Transmetal driver]] and attempted to use it on herself. Silverbolt, not realizing what she was planning, bailed her out of the contraption. Like every good girlfriend, she began to chew him out, but was cut off as an energy surge made her lose control of her circuts. A security system Tarantulus installed had been triggered by her tampering with her core, and the only way to fix it was to cut the Predacon [[shell program]] loose. Reluctantly, she agreed. An attack on the Maximal base disrupted the attempt, and she was deactivated.&lt;br /&gt;
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Distraught, Silverbolt took off to avenge her death. He easily subdued Tarantulus, and was moments away from executing him when [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] attacked him. Blackarachnia, with her new and improved Transmetal 2 body, easily fought him off and rescued Silverbolt. {{storylink|Crossing the Rubicon}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Voice Actress:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Venus Terzo]] (US), [[Ryōka Yuzuki]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Beast Machines, Blackarachnia was distraught and confused - she was locked out of her robot mode, back in her original body, all of her allies were gone, Silverbolt had vanished, and she was being attacked by what looked like Cybertronian guards.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
She had a relatively easy time adapting to her new technorganic form, but she was still frustrated by the loss of Silverbolt. When [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] saved her life, having strange recollections of doing so before, her mind was set - he was Silverbolt, mutated and made evil by Megatron. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Using some of the organic fluid from the Cybertronian core, she trapped Thrust in some of her webs and forced his inner personality out, begging for Silverbolt to answer. The reply was not quite what she was looking for.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Waspinator|&amp;quot;Doggie-bot not home!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When [[Jetstorm]] attacked, he also was caught up in some of her organic goo, and his true personality came out, sweeping Blackarachnia in his arms. Silverbolt returned, but just for a moment. The goo vanished, and their Vehicon minds returned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, Blackarachina managed to force Jetstorm into a large pool of the organic goo, and his body began to change. Scanning a nearby vulture skeleton, he awoke in a new body. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarachnia was startled by the change in him. Instead of the lovable chivalrous knight in shining armor, he was a brittle, haunted bot, tormented by the images of the evil deeds he did, and did by choice. Though he gave up on himself, she never did, urging Silverbolt to forgive his past.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Comics Continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
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===3H Tales of the Beast Wars Comics===&lt;br /&gt;
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===3H Universe Comic===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TFU Blackarachnia vs Rattrap.jpg|left|thumb|Awww, did I do that?  Whoopsie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Beast Wars Metals Manga===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Blackarach24.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Keeping something OUT of her crotch, for once.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;(Note: Although it picks up after the first season, the Beast Wars Metals manga is &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; in-continuity with the TV series.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarachnia appeared through-out the Beast Wars Metals manga as a Predacon warrior, much as she did in the TV series.  Unlike most characters, however, her design underwent the smallest change.  While most characters got re-designs for laughs, the only change in Blackarachnia would appear that she&#039;s a bit smaller and &amp;quot;cuter&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers Legends Anthology===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Beast Wars===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 1995)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;D-8&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Blackarachnia&#039;s original toy was a [[redeco]] of the [[Tarantulas]] mold, transforming into a rather generic-looking organic spider. It features a removable spring-loaded launcher hidden in its beast-mode abdomen; it nominally fires the &amp;quot;grappling hook&amp;quot; attached to its abdomen, but its front four beast-mode legs could also be removed and used as missiles.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Happy Meal Transmetal, 1997)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Part of the second McDonalds &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; Happy Meal pack-in, Blackarachnia&#039;s &amp;quot;[[Transmetal]]&amp;quot; form rather resembles some sort of dust mite more than a spider and the robot mode appears to have fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Transmetal 2, 1999)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;C-48&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: The Transmetal 2 version of Blackarachnia transforms into a large organic/mechincal monstrous spider, featuring a grappling hook, switching [[Faction symbols|faction symbols]], and a spin-kick action feature. This toy was initially hard to find at retail, as one of the toy&#039;s features, a piece of removable chest armor (no, really), was altered slightly, delaying later shipments.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: This mold was used to make the [[BotCon 2000]] [[exclusive]] [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Beast Machines===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2000)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: An early toy in the &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; line, Blackarachnia transforms into a [[technorganic]] spider. In spider mode, squeezing its pedipalps together raised its central fangs; they were spring-loaded to release and lower, respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: This mold was used to make [[Crystal Widow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarchnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Happy Meal, 2000)&lt;br /&gt;
: Happy Meal Balckrachnia is a super-simplified version of her retail toy, with a coloration much closer to the [[Mainframe (company)|Mainframe]] CGI model.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackwidow&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2005)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;BR-04&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Part of the Japanese Toys &#039;R&#039; Us [[exclusive]] &#039;&#039;Beast Wars Returns&#039;&#039; series, this toy is a redeco of the orignial &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; Blackarachnia in a more show-like maroon coloration.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Universe===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2003)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: For &#039;&#039;[[Universe]]&#039;&#039;, Blackarachnia returned as a [[Decepticon]], and as a redeco of the original &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; figure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: This mold was used to make [[Crystal Widow]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Unreleased===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:blackwidowwildrider.jpg|right|thumb|Honda wouldn&#039;t appreciate their car being hot, poisonous, and deadly.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: In 2004, a group of test-shots made their way onto ebay, among them a [[redeco]] of the original &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; Tarantulas/Blackarachnia mold in black with silver spider-legs and salmon-colored robot parts. Later, Hasbro&#039;s official website checklist featured listings for two &amp;quot;Halloween Horrorcon Value Packs&amp;quot; that were to be Wal*Mart [[exclusive]]s... which also likely explains why they were cancelled. (Wal*Mart had taken a good half-dozen exclusives and released them more-or-less simultaneously, leading to a huge glut. A lot of other &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; exclusives were cancelled during the &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; era.) One of the sets was &amp;quot;[[Leatherhide]] Vs. Blackarachnia&amp;quot;... and thus, the mystery spider was confirmed, as the other test-shots in that group lined up with the name listings given in the sets.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: In 2005, the mold used for &#039;&#039;[[Alternators]]&#039;&#039; [[Decepticharge]] was presented as an upcoming release for the Japanese &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; line. Though a bio and story chapter was written to accomodate it into the &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; fiction, it was ultimately dropped when the toy was put on indefinite haitus due to low line sales.  A single Photoshoped promotional image was released of the item.  It has not been revealed as to how the story would have dealt with this time-displaced character addition, and is unliekly to, as &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; author [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]] is unlikely to reveal confidential work-for-hire pieces, since he still works for Takara.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* Reportedly, Blackarachnia&#039;s show model was inspired by a Asian stripper at a club that some Mainframe folks had taken the modeler to a few days before as um... ahem, &#039;&#039;inspiration&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BL2.jpg|125px|left|thumb|Metal.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Blackarachnia&#039;s original Beast Wars card art has her wearing a spike-studded collar.  Dirty girl.  Dirty, dirty girl.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Apparently, having someone invade your head and then upgrading yourself afterwards is a good way of gaining enhanced mental faculties, or at least that&#039;s what happened to Blackarachnia after she became Transmetal 2. In her T2 tech specs, she&#039;s mentioned having telekinetic powers, which were inexplicitly shown in action only once in the cartoon, to fend off [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] with a steel girder. Though no explanation is given in the tech specs as to exactly how she gained these awesome powers, the fact that she was psychically linked to (and raped on occasion by) Tarantulas prior to her reformatting could have something to do with it in cartoon continuity.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Predacon/Blackarachnia/blackarachnia.htm Blackarachnia at TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Blackarachnia (BW)</title>
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		<updated>2007-04-29T09:21:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;66.233.183.59: /* Trivia */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia is a [[Predacon]], [[Maximal]], and a [[Decepticon]] in the [[Beast Era]] [[continuity family]]. She&#039;s a busy girl, huh?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blackarachniabw.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hot, poisonous, and deadly.  Rowr!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A sultry femme fatale, &#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; is smart, sexy, and dangerous.  She&#039;s got eight legs, and she knows how to use them.  Of the several rebellious Predacons under [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]&#039;s command, she&#039;s one of the very few who can, on occasion, outguile him.  Always looking out for Number One, Blackarachnia values her independence and freedom above all else.  She would rather be deactivated than be a slave.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarchnia&#039;s greatest weakness, other than her overconfidence, is her feelings for the Maximal [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]].  Something about his heroic demeanor and the kindness he shows her makes her uneasy.  She hasn&#039;t experienced unconditional love before, and it scares her, though she&#039;ll never admit it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Spanish name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Araña Negra&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Blackwidow&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;French-Canadian names&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Mygale&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;La Veuve Noire&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animated Continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Voice Actress:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Venus Terzo]] (US), [[Ryōka Yuzuki]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blackarachnia_A_shame.jpg|left|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarachnia was born from one of the [[Maximal]] fallen [[Stasis pod]]s. [[Tarantulus]], watching a black widow fight and devour another spider, was inspired. [[Megatron (BW)]], observing the slim and attractive Blackarachnia transform and strike a few poses, suggested that he had &amp;quot;ulterior motives behind her beast form selection.&amp;quot; But, she was a Predacon, and that was what was important. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarachnia made herself reknowned among the ranks of both the Maximals and Predacons as a severe headache to Megatron. When Tarantulus found out about the [[Vok]], he tried to craft a stasis pod escape ship for himself, and she was there to forge a partnership {{storylink|Spider&#039;s Game}}. When [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] and Blackarachnia journeyed to the island, she was there to shove him out of the way and take control of the island herself, only defeated by [[Tigatron]] {{storylink|The Trigger, Part 1}}. When [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] took control of [[Waspinator]]&#039;s body, she was right next to him when he betrayed Megatron, betraying Starscream &#039;&#039;back&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Possession}}. When Tarantulus forced her to investigate Megatron&#039;s [[Golden Disk]] backups, she waited until Tarantulus was occupied to download and encrypt the recoverable information. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blackarachnia_fightback.jpg|right|thumb|Spousal abuse!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When the Vok were moments away from returning, Tarantulus and Blackarachnia both again teamed up in an attempt to flee the dying planet. Megatron, already aware of the next move, used their deceptive tendancies against them, and acted unaware of their treachary. As they built their escape ship, he installed his own variant on the design, making it unescapable once sealed and in space. Though it did not destroy either of them, the result was even better; [[Optimus Primal]]. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 2}} Blackarachnia&#039;s wits saved her, as she convinced Megatron that he would need soldiers, which gave him reason to spare her life. {{storylink|Aftermath}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When an energon blast sent her and Silverbolt into the middle of the dense jungles, they were forced to work together. Blackarachnia, though attracted to him, was endlessly frustrated by his seemingly idiotic chivalry and need to treat her special. Megatron, listening in to their commlink chatter, was disgusted by the obvious romance going on. Blackarachnia, though she held it under a firm charade of bitter irritation, rather liked the treatment and affection. {{storylink|Bad Spark}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BA_Silverbolt_Agenda3.jpg|left|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron sent Waspinator to the location of the Ark. Blackarachnia, realizing what it meant, abandoned her post and went instead. Silverbolt followed her, and stubbornly refused to leave her alone. Exhausted and in a hurry, she conceded and told him to dig. The two broke through the mountainside, just as Megatron - having broke free from [[Ravage]], arrived. Megatron knew Blackarachnia had the codes to the Golden Disk that would allow them to get by the Ark&#039;s security systems, and he threatened to vape Silverbolt. Bitterly, she agreed to his demands. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarachnia used the Ark&#039;s security system to cover Megatron&#039;s back, not sure of what he was planning. Once he fired upon [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], history began to change, wiping out all Maximals...which included herself. Not willing to die for Megatron, she activated [[Teletraan-1]]&#039;s security nets to force Megatron off the ship. With Silverbolt&#039;s help, they got the dying Autobot leader under life support and begun the repairs. The Maximals, recognizing what she had done, reluctantly allowed her to join their ranks. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TM2 Blackarachnia.jpg|right|thumb|Calender Bot]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, Blackarachnia took the [[Transmetal driver]] and attempted to use it on herself. Silverbolt, not realizing what she was planning, bailed her out of the contraption. Like every good girlfriend, she began to chew him out, but was cut off as an energy surge made her lose control of her circuts. A security system Tarantulus installed had been triggered by her tampering with her core, and the only way to fix it was to cut the Predacon [[shell program]] loose. Reluctantly, she agreed. An attack on the Maximal base disrupted the attempt, and she was deactivated.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Distraught, Silverbolt took off to avenge her death. He easily subdued Tarantulus, and was moments away from executing him when [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] attacked him. Blackarachnia, with her new and improved Transmetal 2 body, easily fought him off and rescued Silverbolt. {{storylink|Crossing the Rubicon}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Voice Actress:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Venus Terzo]] (US), [[Ryōka Yuzuki]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Beast Machines, Blackarachnia was distraught and confused - she was locked out of her robot mode, back in her original body, all of her allies were gone, Silverbolt had vanished, and she was being attacked by what looked like Cybertronian guards.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
She had a relatively easy time adapting to her new technorganic form, but she was still frustrated by the loss of Silverbolt. When [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] saved her life, having strange recollections of doing so before, her mind was set - he was Silverbolt, mutated and made evil by Megatron. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Using some of the organic fluid from the Cybertronian core, she trapped Thrust in some of her webs and forced his inner personality out, begging for Silverbolt to answer. The reply was not quite what she was looking for.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Waspinator|&amp;quot;Doggie-bot not home!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When [[Jetstorm]] attacked, he also was caught up in some of her organic goo, and his true personality came out, sweeping Blackarachnia in his arms. Silverbolt returned, but just for a moment. The goo vanished, and their Vehicon minds returned.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, Blackarachina managed to force Jetstorm into a large pool of the organic goo, and his body began to change. Scanning a nearby vulture skeleton, he awoke in a new body. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarachnia was startled by the change in him. Instead of the lovable chivalrous knight in shining armor, he was a brittle, haunted bot, tormented by the images of the evil deeds he did, and did by choice. Though he gave up on himself, she never did, urging Silverbolt to forgive his past.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Comics Continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===3H Tales of the Beast Wars Comics===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===3H Universe Comic===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TFU Blackarachnia vs Rattrap.jpg|left|thumb|Awww, did I do that?  Whoopsie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Beast Wars Metals Manga===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Blackarach24.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Keeping something OUT of her crotch, for once.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Note: Although it picks up after the first season, the Beast Wars Metals manga is &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; in-continuity with the TV series.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Blackarachnia appeared through-out the Beast Wars Metals manga as a Predacon warrior, much as she did in the TV series.  Unlike most characters, however, her design underwent the smallest change.  While most characters got re-designs for laughs, the only change in Blackarachnia would appear that she&#039;s a bit smaller and &amp;quot;cuter&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers Legends Anthology===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Beast Wars===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 1995)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;D-8&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Blackarachnia&#039;s original toy was a [[redeco]] of the [[Tarantulas]] mold, transforming into a rather generic-looking organic spider. It features a removable spring-loaded launcher hidden in its beast-mode abdomen; it nominally fires the &amp;quot;grappling hook&amp;quot; attached to its abdomen, but its front four beast-mode legs could also be removed and used as missiles.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Happy Meal Transmetal, 1997)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Part of the second McDonalds &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; Happy Meal pack-in, Blackarachnia&#039;s &amp;quot;[[Transmetal]]&amp;quot; form rather resembles some sort of dust mite more than a spider and the robot mode appears to have fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Transmetal 2, 1999)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;C-48&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: The Transmetal 2 version of Blackarachnia transforms into a large organic/mechincal monstrous spider, featuring a grappling hook, switching [[Faction symbols|faction symbols]], and a spin-kick action feature. This toy was initially hard to find at retail, as one of the toy&#039;s features, a piece of removable chest armor (no, really), was altered slightly, delaying later shipments.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: This mold was used to make the [[BotCon 2000]] [[exclusive]] [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Beast Machines===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2000)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: An early toy in the &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; line, Blackarachnia transforms into a [[technorganic]] spider. In spider mode, squeezing its pedipalps together raised its central fangs; they were spring-loaded to release and lower, respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: This mold was used to make [[Crystal Widow]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarchnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Happy Meal, 2000)&lt;br /&gt;
: Happy Meal Balckrachnia is a super-simplified version of her retail toy, with a coloration much closer to the [[Mainframe (company)|Mainframe]] CGI model.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackwidow&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2005)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;BR-04&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Part of the Japanese Toys &#039;R&#039; Us [[exclusive]] &#039;&#039;Beast Wars Returns&#039;&#039; series, this toy is a redeco of the orignial &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; Blackarachnia in a more show-like maroon coloration.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Universe===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2003)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: For &#039;&#039;[[Universe]]&#039;&#039;, Blackarachnia returned as a [[Decepticon]], and as a redeco of the original &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; figure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: This mold was used to make [[Crystal Widow]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Unreleased===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:blackwidowwildrider.jpg|right|thumb|Honda wouldn&#039;t appreciate their car being hot, poisonous, and deadly.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: In 2004, a group of test-shots made their way onto ebay, among them a [[redeco]] of the original &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; Tarantulas/Blackarachnia mold in black with silver spider-legs and salmon-colored robot parts. Later, Hasbro&#039;s official website checklist featured listings for two &amp;quot;Halloween Horrorcon Value Packs&amp;quot; that were to be Wal*Mart [[exclusive]]s... which also likely explains why they were cancelled. (Wal*Mart had taken a good half-dozen exclusives and released them more-or-less simultaneously, leading to a huge glut. A lot of other &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; exclusives were cancelled during the &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; era.) One of the sets was &amp;quot;[[Leatherhide]] Vs. Blackarachnia&amp;quot;... and thus, the mystery spider was confirmed, as the other test-shots in that group lined up with the name listings given in the sets.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: In 2005, the mold used for &#039;&#039;[[Alternators]]&#039;&#039; [[Decepticharge]] was presented as an upcoming release for the Japanese &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; line. Though a bio and story chapter was written to accomodate it into the &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; fiction, it was ultimately dropped when the toy was put on indefinite haitus due to low line sales.  A single Photoshoped promotional image was released of the item.  It has not been revealed as to how the story would have dealt with this time-displaced character addition, and is unliekly to, as &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; author [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]] is unlikely to reveal confidential work-for-hire pieces, since he still works for Takara.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* Reportedly, Blackarachnia&#039;s show model was inspired by a Asian stripper at a club that some Mainframe folks had taken the modeler to a few days before as um... ahem, &#039;&#039;inspiration&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BL2.jpg|125px|left|thumb|Metal.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Blackarachnia&#039;s original Beast Wars card art has her wearing a spike-studded collar.  Dirty girl.  Dirty, dirty girl.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Blackarachnia&#039;s latent telekinesis, mentioned in her Transmetal 2 tech specs, was only shown once in the show, when she levitated a steel girder in the Maximal Base to take out Rampage. It&#039;s not mentioned in the tech specs exactly &#039;&#039;how&#039;&#039; Blackarachnia gained such power, nor is it explained anywhere why she only used it that one time, but since she and Tarantulas shared minds briefly in the show, it could be that her upgrade to Transmetal 2 enhanced whatever remnants of that link remained. Coincidentally, she&#039;s apparently able to mentally control her static webs in &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039;, possibly hinting that not &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; of her Transmetal abilities were removed during her reformatting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Predacon/Blackarachnia/blackarachnia.htm Blackarachnia at TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
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	<entry>
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		<title>Proving Grounds (BW)</title>
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		<updated>2007-04-29T09:08:20Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Writers:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Arthur Sellers]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] discovers that removing a shell program could free her from [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] control... or wipe her mind entirely. Believing this revelation to be the latest in a long line of mistrust between her and the Maximals, Blackarachnia strikes out on her own, only to be pulled into a dangerous cat-and-mouse game within a Predacon jamming zone by [[Dinobot II (BW)|Dinobot]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Characters (in order of appearance):&#039;&#039;&#039; Characters&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Minor Characters (in order of appearance):&#039;&#039;&#039; Characters&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Original Air Date:&#039;&#039;&#039; February 14, 1999&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Summary==&lt;br /&gt;
Extended summary&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Technical/Animation Glitches===&lt;br /&gt;
*Glitch&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity Errors===&lt;br /&gt;
*Error&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers References===&lt;br /&gt;
*References&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-World References===&lt;br /&gt;
*Reference&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*Link&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Beast Wars episodes]]&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
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		<title>Proving Grounds (BW)</title>
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		<updated>2007-04-29T09:02:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;66.233.183.59: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Writers:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Arthur Sellers]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;[[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] discovers that removing a shell program could free her from [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] control... or wipe her mind entirely. Believing this revelation to be the latest in a long line of mistrust between her and the Maximals, Blackarachnia strikes out on her own, only to be pulled into a dangerous cat-and-mouse game within a Predacon jamming zone by [[Dinobot II (BW)|Dinobot]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Characters (in order of appearance):&#039;&#039;&#039; Characters&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Minor Characters (in order of appearance):&#039;&#039;&#039; Characters&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Original Air Date:&#039;&#039;&#039; February 14, 1999&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Summary==&lt;br /&gt;
Extended summary&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Technical/Animation Glitches===&lt;br /&gt;
*Glitch&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity Errors===&lt;br /&gt;
*Error&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers References===&lt;br /&gt;
*References&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-World References===&lt;br /&gt;
*Reference&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*Link&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Beast Wars episodes]]&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Proving_Grounds_(BW)&amp;diff=48494</id>
		<title>Proving Grounds (BW)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Proving_Grounds_(BW)&amp;diff=48494"/>
		<updated>2007-04-29T09:01:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;66.233.183.59: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Writers:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Arthur Sellers]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;[[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] discovers that removing a shell program could free her from [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] control... or wipe her mind entirely. Believing this revelation to be the latest in a long line of mistrust between her and the Maximals, Blackarachnia strikes out on her own, only to be pulled into a dangerous cat-and-mouse game within a Predacon jamming zone by [[Dinobot II (BW)|Dinobot]].&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Major Characters (in order of appearance):&#039;&#039;&#039; Characters&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Minor Characters (in order of appearance):&#039;&#039;&#039; Characters&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Original Air Date:&#039;&#039;&#039; February 14, 1999&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Summary==&lt;br /&gt;
Extended summary&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Technical/Animation Glitches===&lt;br /&gt;
*Glitch&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity Errors===&lt;br /&gt;
*Error&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers References===&lt;br /&gt;
*References&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-World References===&lt;br /&gt;
*Reference&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*Link&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Beast Wars episodes]]&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Blackarachnia_(BW)&amp;diff=23526</id>
		<title>Blackarachnia (BW)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia is a [[Predacon]], [[Maximal]], and a [[Decepticon]] in the [[Beast Era]] [[continuity family]]. She gets around, huh?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Blackarachniabw.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hot, poisonous, and deadly.  Rowr!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A sultry femme fatale, &#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; is smart, sexy, and dangerous.  She&#039;s got eight legs, and she knows how to use them.  Of the several rebellious Predacons under [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]&#039;s command, she&#039;s one of the very few who can, on occasion, outguile him.  Always looking out for Number One, Blackarachnia values her independence and freedom above all else.  She would rather be deactivated than be a slave.&lt;br /&gt;
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Blackarchnia&#039;s greatest weakness, other than her overconfidence, is her feelings for the Maximal [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]].  Something about his heroic demeanor and the kindness he shows her makes her uneasy.  She hasn&#039;t experienced unconditional love before, and it scares her, though she&#039;ll never admit it.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Spanish name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Araña Negra&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Blackwidow&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;French-Canadian names&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Mygale&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;La Veuve Noire&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animated Continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Voice Actress:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Venus Terzo]] (US), [[Ryōka Yuzuki]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Blackarachnia_A_shame.jpg|left|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Blackarachnia was born from one of the [[Maximal]] fallen [[Stasis pod]]s. [[Tarantulus]], watching a black widow fight and devour another spider, was inspired. [[Megatron (BW)]], observing the slim and attractive Blackarachnia transform and strike a few poses, suggested that he had &amp;quot;ulterior motives behind her beast form selection.&amp;quot; But, she was a Predacon, and that was what was important. &lt;br /&gt;
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Blackarachnia made herself reknowned among the ranks of both the Maximals and Predacons as a severe headache to Megatron. When Tarantulus found out about the [[Vok]], he tried to craft a stasis pod escape ship for himself, and she was there to forge a partnership {{storylink|Spider&#039;s Game}}. When [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] and Blackarachnia journeyed to the island, she was there to shove him out of the way and take control of the island herself, only defeated by [[Tigatron]] {{storylink|The Trigger, Part 1}}. When [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] took control of [[Waspinator]]&#039;s body, she was right next to him when he betrayed Megatron, betraying Starscream &#039;&#039;back&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Possession}}. When Tarantulus forced her to investigate Megatron&#039;s [[Golden Disk]] backups, she waited until Tarantulus was occupied to download and encrypt the recoverable information. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Blackarachnia_fightback.jpg|right|thumb|Spousal abuse!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When the Vok were moments away from returning, Tarantulus and Blackarachnia both again teamed up in an attempt to flee the dying planet. Megatron, already aware of the next move, used their deceptive tendancies against them, and acted unaware of their treachary. As they built their escape ship, he installed his own variant on the design, making it unescapable once sealed and in space. Though it did not destroy either of them, the result was even better; [[Optimus Primal]]. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 2}} Blackarachnia&#039;s wits saved her, as she convinced Megatron that he would need soldiers, which gave him reason to spare her life. {{storylink|Aftermath}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When an energon blast sent her and Silverbolt into the middle of the dense jungles, they were forced to work together. Blackarachnia, though attracted to him, was endlessly frustrated by his seemingly idiotic chivalry and need to treat her special. Megatron, listening in to their commlink chatter, was disgusted by the obvious romance going on. Blackarachnia, though she held it under a firm charade of bitter irritation, rather liked the treatment and affection. {{storylink|Bad Spark}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BA_Silverbolt_Agenda3.jpg|left|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron sent Waspinator to the location of the Ark. Blackarachnia, realizing what it meant, abandoned her post and went instead. Silverbolt followed her, and stubbornly refused to leave her alone. Exhausted and in a hurry, she conceded and told him to dig. The two broke through the mountainside, just as Megatron - having broke free from [[Ravage]], arrived. Megatron knew Blackarachnia had the codes to the Golden Disk that would allow them to get by the Ark&#039;s security systems, and he threatened to vape Silverbolt. Bitterly, she agreed to his demands. &lt;br /&gt;
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Blackarachnia used the Ark&#039;s security system to cover Megatron&#039;s back, not sure of what he was planning. Once he fired upon [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], history began to change, wiping out all Maximals...which included herself. Not willing to die for Megatron, she activated [[Teletraan-1]]&#039;s security nets to force Megatron off the ship. With Silverbolt&#039;s help, they got the dying Autobot leader under life support and begun the repairs. The Maximals, recognizing what she had done, reluctantly allowed her to join their ranks. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TM2 Blackarachnia.jpg|right|thumb|Calender Bot]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, Blackarachnia took the [[Transmetal driver]] and attempted to use it on herself. Silverbolt, not realizing what she was planning, bailed her out of the contraption. Like every good girlfriend, she began to chew him out, but was cut off as an energy surge made her lose control of her circuts. A security system Tarantulus installed had been triggered by her tampering with her core, and the only way to fix it was to cut the Predacon [[shell program]] loose. Reluctantly, she agreed. An attack on the Maximal base disrupted the attempt, and she was deactivated.&lt;br /&gt;
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Distraught, Silverbolt took off to avenge her death. He easily subdued Tarantulus, and was moments away from executing him when [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] attacked him. Blackarachnia, with her new and improved Transmetal 2 body, easily fought him off and rescued Silverbolt. {{storylink|Crossing the Rubicon}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Voice Actress:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Venus Terzo]] (US), [[Ryōka Yuzuki]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
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In Beast Machines, Blackarachnia was distraught and confused - she was locked out of her robot mode, back in her original body, all of her allies were gone, Silverbolt had vanished, and she was being attacked by what looked like Cybertronian guards.&lt;br /&gt;
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She had a relatively easy time adapting to her new technorganic form, but she was still frustrated by the loss of Silverbolt. When [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] saved her life, having strange recollections of doing so before, her mind was set - he was Silverbolt, mutated and made evil by Megatron. &lt;br /&gt;
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Using some of the organic fluid from the Cybertronian core, she trapped Thrust in some of her webs and forced his inner personality out, begging for Silverbolt to answer. The reply was not quite what she was looking for.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Waspinator|&amp;quot;Doggie-bot not home!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When [[Jetstorm]] attacked, he also was caught up in some of her organic goo, and his true personality came out, sweeping Blackarachnia in his arms. Silverbolt returned, but just for a moment. The goo vanished, and their Vehicon minds returned.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, Blackarachina managed to force Jetstorm into a large pool of the organic goo, and his body began to change. Scanning a nearby vulture skeleton, he awoke in a new body. &lt;br /&gt;
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Blackarachnia was startled by the change in him. Instead of the lovable chivalrous knight in shining armor, he was a brittle, haunted bot, tormented by the images of the evil deeds he did, and did by choice. Though he gave up on himself, she never did, urging Silverbolt to forgive his past.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Comics Continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
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===3H Tales of the Beast Wars Comics===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TFU Blackarachnia vs Rattrap.jpg|left|thumb|Awww, did I do that?  Whoopsie.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Beast Wars Metals Manga===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Blackarach24.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Keeping something OUT of her crotch, for once.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;(Note: Although it picks up after the first season, the Beast Wars Metals manga is &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; in-continuity with the TV series.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Blackarachnia appeared through-out the Beast Wars Metals manga as a Predacon warrior, much as she did in the TV series.  Unlike most characters, however, her design underwent the smallest change.  While most characters got re-designs for laughs, the only change in Blackarachnia would appear that she&#039;s a bit smaller and &amp;quot;cuter&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers Legends Anthology===&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Beast Wars===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 1995)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;D-8&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: Blackarachnia&#039;s original toy was a [[redeco]] of the [[Tarantulas]] mold, transforming into a rather generic-looking organic spider. It features a removable spring-loaded launcher hidden in its beast-mode abdomen; it nominally fires the &amp;quot;grappling hook&amp;quot; attached to its abdomen, but its front four beast-mode legs could also be removed and used as missiles.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Happy Meal Transmetal, 1997)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Part of the second McDonalds &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; Happy Meal pack-in, Blackarachnia&#039;s &amp;quot;[[Transmetal]]&amp;quot; form rather resembles some sort of dust mite more than a spider and the robot mode appears to have fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Transmetal 2, 1999)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;C-48&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: The Transmetal 2 version of Blackarachnia transforms into a large organic/mechincal monstrous spider, featuring a grappling hook, switching [[Faction symbols|faction symbols]], and a spin-kick action feature. This toy was initially hard to find at retail, as one of the toy&#039;s features, a piece of removable chest armor (no, really), was altered slightly, delaying later shipments.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This mold was used to make the [[BotCon 2000]] [[exclusive]] [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Beast Machines===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2000)&lt;br /&gt;
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: An early toy in the &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; line, Blackarachnia transforms into a [[technorganic]] spider. In spider mode, squeezing its pedipalps together raised its central fangs; they were spring-loaded to release and lower, respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This mold was used to make [[Crystal Widow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarchnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Happy Meal, 2000)&lt;br /&gt;
: Happy Meal Balckrachnia is a super-simplified version of her retail toy, with a coloration much closer to the [[Mainframe (company)|Mainframe]] CGI model.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackwidow&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2005)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;BR-04&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: Part of the Japanese Toys &#039;R&#039; Us [[exclusive]] &#039;&#039;Beast Wars Returns&#039;&#039; series, this toy is a redeco of the orignial &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; Blackarachnia in a more show-like maroon coloration.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Universe===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2003)&lt;br /&gt;
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: For &#039;&#039;[[Universe]]&#039;&#039;, Blackarachnia returned as a [[Decepticon]], and as a redeco of the original &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; figure.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This mold was used to make [[Crystal Widow]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Unreleased===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:blackwidowwildrider.jpg|right|thumb|Honda wouldn&#039;t appreciate their car being hot, poisonous, and deadly.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: In 2004, a group of test-shots made their way onto ebay, among them a [[redeco]] of the original &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; Tarantulas/Blackarachnia mold in black with silver spider-legs and salmon-colored robot parts. Later, Hasbro&#039;s official website checklist featured listings for two &amp;quot;Halloween Horrorcon Value Packs&amp;quot; that were to be Wal*Mart [[exclusive]]s... which also likely explains why they were cancelled. (Wal*Mart had taken a good half-dozen exclusives and released them more-or-less simultaneously, leading to a huge glut. A lot of other &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; exclusives were cancelled during the &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; era.) One of the sets was &amp;quot;[[Leatherhide]] Vs. Blackarachnia&amp;quot;... and thus, the mystery spider was confirmed, as the other test-shots in that group lined up with the name listings given in the sets.&lt;br /&gt;
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: In 2005, the mold used for &#039;&#039;[[Alternators]]&#039;&#039; [[Decepticharge]] was presented as an upcoming release for the Japanese &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; line. Though a bio and story chapter was written to accomodate it into the &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; fiction, it was ultimately dropped when the toy was put on indefinite haitus due to low line sales.  A single Photoshoped promotional image was released of the item.  It has not been revealed as to how the story would have dealt with this time-displaced character addition, and is unliekly to, as &#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039; author [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]] is unlikely to reveal confidential work-for-hire pieces, since he still works for Takara.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* Reportedly, Blackarachnia&#039;s show model was inspired by a Asian stripper at a club that some Mainframe folks had taken the modeler to a few days before as um... ahem, &#039;&#039;inspiration&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BL2.jpg|125px|left|thumb|Metal.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Blackarachnia&#039;s original Beast Wars card art has her wearing a spike-studded collar.  Dirty girl.  Dirty, dirty girl.&lt;br /&gt;
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*After going Transmetal she gained an amazing ability.  She found herself mentally bonded to a single steel beam that was lying around the Maximal base.  Not wanting to use such a devastating power lightly she utilized it only once (in [[Master Blaster]]) to smite down [[Rampage]] and then swore to keep it forever secret lest she become drunk with power. Of course, in all seriousness, this was just a hint of the telekinetic powers stated in her Transmetal 2 toy tech specs, and is theorized by fans to be an upgrade to the residual effects of her psychic link with Tarrantulas, but this single instance of metallurgical manipulation was the only instance on-screen of her latent power. Even so, it&#039;s possible if unlikely that this was further upgraded in Beast Machines as her mental control over her static webs.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Predacon/Blackarachnia/blackarachnia.htm Blackarachnia at TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Noble (BM)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Savage/Noble is a [[Maximal]] from the [[Beast Machines]] portion of the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].  He is also known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Beast Changer.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Noble.jpg|right|thumb|250px|A Predacon Werewolf in [[Iacon]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Savage/Noble&#039;&#039;&#039; is one of the ONLY purely-organic Transformers. His &amp;quot;robot&amp;quot; form resembles a werewolf (referred to as &#039;&#039;&#039;Noble&#039;&#039;&#039;), and his alt-mode is a dragon-creature (known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Savage&#039;&#039;&#039;).  He is close friends with [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animated continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[David Kaye]] (US), [[Yūichi Nagashima]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
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Upon Savage/Noble&#039;s debut, it is unclear whether his seemingly random violent rages were genuine or if it was a deliberate ruse by [[Megatron]].  Once he seemed to gain more self-control and began speaking, he claimed to be a survivor of the transformation lock virus in need of help, and so he was quickly accepted into the [[Maximal]] fold and befriended by [[Nightscream]]. After the Maximals led him to Megatron&#039;s Citadel, Megs made his move, and downloaded his [[spark]] into a [[Grand Mal|Giant Warship]].  The discarded Savage/Noble entity was left a pure beast with an instinctual mind and no spark. Noble continued to follow Nightscream, helping where he could but also at times jeopardizing the team.  The first time Megatron consumed all the sparks on Cybertron, he gained new powers with which he killed Noble.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Beast Machines===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Beast Changer&#039;&#039;&#039; (2001)&lt;br /&gt;
The Beast Changer toy was originally released in the West in 2001 as part of the Beast Machines toyline.  In 2005, the mold was later recolored to appear somewhat more show-accurate and released in Japan as part of the Beast Wars Returns toyline, [[exclusive]] to Toys R&#039; Us.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
*Some fans speculate that Savage/Noble is somehow Megatron&#039;s beast mode fused with [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]]&#039;s wolf-form, as Silverbolt is reintroduced to the series minus the wolf half of his previous wolf/eagle [[Fuzor]] form.  This theory is reinforced by rumors that Silverbolt was originally going to be the traitor to Megatron instead of Tankorr/Rhinox, the fusion taking place during a battle between the two &#039;bots. However, this theory doesn&#039;t exactly work, as Silverbolt was actually reborn as a &#039;&#039;condor&#039;&#039;, not an eagle, and it was because he probably scanned the skeletal remains of one during his rebirth.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Maximal/BeastChanger/beastchanger.htm TFU.info&#039;s entry on Beast Changer]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Anti-sound</title>
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Anti-sound is a sound wave used to cancel or nullify other sound(s). It is also known as &#039;&#039;white noise&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the real world anti-sound devices are used in areas where undesirable sounds originate such as traffic.&lt;br /&gt;
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The concept was introduced in Arthur C. Clarke&#039;s 1957 short story, &amp;quot;Silence Please&amp;quot;. Clarke intended it as a humorously improbable device - with dire consequences for the inventor.&lt;br /&gt;
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The citizens of [[Eurhythma]] used anti-sound to cancel out the destructive melody stolen from them by [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] (&#039;&#039;[[Carnage in C-Minor]]&#039;&#039;).&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>&#039;Til all are one</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig2|the catchphrase|the music CD set|&#039;Til All Are One (CD)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;Til all are one&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; is a phrase knit through [[Transformer]]s mythology and legend, often used as a rallying cry by the Autobots. It&#039;s been translated as either until all Transformers find peaceful coexistence and shed their faction affiliations, or until all are rejoined into the Allspark of Primus.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Depth Charge (BW)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;Depth Charge is a [[Maximal]] from the [[Beast Wars]] portion of the [[Generation 1]]/[[Beast Era]] [[continuity family]]. He is sometimes known as &#039;&#039;&#039;Depthcharge&#039;&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Depthchargebw.jpg|right|thumb|250px|I&#039;m Batman]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Depth Charge&#039;&#039;&#039; is a powerful but insubordinate Maximal whose singular goal in life is to hunt down and either capture or destroy [[Rampage (BW)|Protoform X]].  He has a joyless, insatiable lust for justice.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;French name: &#039;&#039;&#039;Torpille&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Spanish name: &#039;&#039;&#039;Manta Raya&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Italian name: &#039;&#039;&#039;Abyssal&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animated continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice Actor&#039;&#039;  [[David Sobolov]] (US), [[Kiyoyuki Yanada]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Preview 02.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Depth Charge gives up some tail.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Depth Charge was a Peace Marshal stationed on [[Colony Omicron]] when Protoform X broke free and went on a rampage.  As the colony&#039;s sole survivor, Depth Charge made hunting down &amp;quot;X&amp;quot; his only mission in life.  Pursuing Protoform X to places throughout the Universe (including [[Starbase Rugby]]) Depth Charge successfully captured Protoform X, and turned him over to the [[Maximal Elder]]s.  The Elders decided that Protoform X should be placed in stasis aboard the [[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]] and dumped on an uninhabited world.&lt;br /&gt;
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Knowing that &amp;quot;[[Optimus Primal (BW)|Primal]] would screw it up&amp;quot;, Depth Charge continued to monitor the Universe for any trace of Protoform X.  The sensors on his [[Starhopper]] picked up traces of Protoform X just as he was pulled through a temporal anomaly.  The resulting crash left him on prehistoric Earth with a transmetal Manta Ray body, and put him right in the middle of the Beast Wars.&lt;br /&gt;
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Depth Charge became a wild card for the Maximals.  They never knew if he could be counted on, as his pursuit of Rampage always took precedent. Throughout the entire third season of beast wars he tracked Rampage&#039;s spark (and Dinobot 2&#039;s later on, though this was not completely intentional) through the use of his cybershark drone. This hunt of Rampage, however, usually ended up getting the Maximals in trouble. An example is the case of the episode [[Changing of the Guard]] (where his refusal to directly join in the capture of Sentinel resulted in its loss).   &lt;br /&gt;
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However, Depth Charge would comply with the Maximals from time to time. When Depth charge was called forth to stop Megatron from launching the Nemesis he followed the order, for even he knew how important it was to stop Megatron. Ironically it was Rampage who found Depth Charge on this mission and forced him into battle. The struggle continued  which was intensified by the existence of some conveniently placed energon crystals which were scattered all over the battlefield. &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Raw energon! Right through your twisted spark! Take it! Take it straight to the Pit, you stinking piece of slag!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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As Depth Charge attempted to shove an energon spike into Rampage&#039;s spark, Rampage released Depth Charge&#039;s hands and laughed maniacally as he allowed his rival to destroy the both of them. His reasons for this are unknown. Some fans believe Rampage was using Depth Charge&#039;s own obsession with him to manipulate and corrupt him, with this scenario the ultimate test to see just how far the Maximal would go to claim &amp;quot;justice&amp;quot; over him.&lt;br /&gt;
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====IDW &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; comics====&lt;br /&gt;
Depth Charge was observed emerging from the water by [[Magmatron (BW)|Magmatron]] and [[Drill Bit (BW)|Drill Bit]]; due to their chronal displacement, they could see him, but he could not see them.&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
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When Optimus Primal was brought before [[Alpha Trion]] and [[Primus]] and told to select any Cybertronians past or present to form the foundations of a new army that would take the fight for the multiverse to [[Unicron]] himself, Depthcharge was chosen by Primal, along with Rhinox. Depthcharge was less than thrilled about being brought back to life, but that didn&#039;t stop him from saving [[Rattrap]] from a newly-corrupted [[Blackarachnia]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Beast Wars===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Depth Charge&#039;&#039;&#039; (Ultra Transmetal, 1998/1999)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;C-46&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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: Depth Charge transforms into a robotic manta ray, plus has a third &amp;quot;air skimmer&amp;quot; mode.  The very end of his tail detaches to form a sword/javelin.  In all modes, his robot chest/manta mouth is a spring-loaded, gravity-fed disc launcher.  He comes with a &amp;quot;cybershark&amp;quot; drone-unit that has two spring-loaded missile launchers in its mouth.  This drone can attach to Depth Charge&#039;s manta/skimmer modes, or be used as a hand-held weapon in robot mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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: For the [[Takara]] &#039;&#039;Beast Wars Metals&#039;&#039; line, the &amp;quot;DEPTH CHARGE&amp;quot; [[tampograph]] changed to &amp;quot;CYBERTRON&amp;quot; and the faction sigil, as with all toys in the series.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Depth Charge Vs. Inferno&#039;&#039;&#039; (Multi-pack, 1999)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;VS-46&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: During &#039;&#039;Beast Wars Metals&#039;&#039;, Depth Charge was available both individually and in a double-pack with Metals [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]].  Both toys were identical to their individual releases.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Universe===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Depthcharge-universe.jpg |left|thumb|150px|Boba Wett.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Depthcharge&#039;&#039;&#039; (Ultra, 2004)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Depthcharge got [[redeco]]ed for the &#039;&#039;[[Universe]]&#039;&#039; line, into a series of dark drab greens, maroons, and black, with paint-wash effects on his wings.  The end result is actually kinda &#039;&#039;[[Star Wars]]&#039;&#039;-ian.  The toy had several small changes made for safety reasons.  On the main toy, the front small... manta-ray-mouth thingies were cast in a much more pliable plastic.  The tail of his cybershark drone was also changed to pop off as a separate piece; this also allows it to spin, plus makes it easier for Depthcharge to hold it in robot mode.  The discs were given a much thicker, rounder border as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
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*In the jovial Japanese dub of Beast Wars, nearly all the characters were given bizarre quirks with the intention of inserting extra comedy elements.  Depth Charge had a habit of singing &amp;quot;Ito Maki-maki&amp;quot;, a Japanese folk song, while transforming.  The words translate to &amp;quot;Wind the Thread&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Maximal/DepthCharge/depthcharge.htm Depth Charge at TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Operation: Distant Thunder</title>
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		<updated>2007-03-27T15:22:15Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;{{Disambig2|the operation from the [[Binaltech]] portion of the [[Generation 1]] continuity|the [[Marvel UK]] story that it is named in homage to|Distant Thunder!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Operation: Distant Thunder&#039;&#039;&#039; was an operation settled in [[Dinobot Island]] to restore the timeline, which had been altered by [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], by sending a drone back through time to a point prior to Ravage&#039;s tinkering, with instruction&#039;s to alert the [[Autobot]]s in that timeline to Ravage&#039;s plot. Though successful, it would have destroyed the sender&#039;s dimension if not for the intervention of a [[Nemesis Prime (Alternators)|strange visitor coming from a mysterious time warp]], who claimed that the timeline must be preserved to ensure its participants ascend to their destinies as a force of interdimensional preservers. He therefore established the [[Binaltech]] universe as a distinct dimension, completely separate from the original timeline.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Ravage (G1)</title>
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		<updated>2007-03-27T15:17:04Z</updated>

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:&#039;&#039;Ravage is a [[Decepticon]] and [[Predacon]] in the [[Generation 1]] and [[Beast Era]] [[continuity family|continuity families]].  He is a chronic time-traveler.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ravageboxart.jpg|right|thumb|350px|This is  [[Ravage#Trivia|every comic book panel]] Ravage has ever been in.  Well, okay, sometimes they rotate him a bit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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No Decepticon has a stronger loyalty to [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] than &#039;&#039;&#039;Ravage&#039;&#039;&#039;.  Ravage believes unwaveringly in the Decepticon cause, and Megatron embodies that cause.  To serve Megatron, Ravage has become the most efficient and deadly war machine under his command.  He hides himself in the shadows, waiting for the perfect moment to strike with grim accuracy.  His name is synonymous with stealth.  His survivors are few.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ravage&#039;s only weakness is bright light, which can temporarily blind him.  Perhaps his absolute loyalty to Megatron can blind him as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Japanese name:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Jaguar&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Italian name:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Jena&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Swedish name:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Hunden&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
According to the UK book [[Dinobot War]], Ravage&#039;s cassette tape mode is disguised as the soundtrack to &#039;&#039;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cats_(musical) Cats].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Marvel Comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Note: Events from the UK-only comic stories are in italics.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ravage_uk258.png|left|thumb|100px|The smirking Ravage was a chatty catty in the Marvel comics.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Ravage was loyal bodyguard for the Overlords, the Autobots that once ruled all of Cybertron, for Generations.  He witnessed as their planet-wide rule crumbled into a loose collection of feuding city-states.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;During the Vos-Tarn war, Ravage, his partner [[Nightstalker]], Megatron and Optimus Prime.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;While escorting the last Overlord, an enfeebled mechanoid who required constant re-energization to survive, out of the city of Tarn during the Vos-Tarn war, they were pinned down. Though the Overlord was near death, Ravage refused to give the Overlord any of his energy, instead allying himself with Megatron, whom he believed would be the future ruler of Cybertron.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;As for Nightstalker, he blew himself up in order to take out the forces that pinned them down, proving just how gullibly loyal Autobots could be. Ironic how Ravage would make that same sacrifice for &#039;&#039;his&#039;&#039; leader millions of years later.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animated continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
Voice Actor: [[Frank Welker]] (US) [[Yutaka Shimaka]] (Japanese speech)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ravageg1.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Ravage reveals his slef (sic) to humans.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the original team of Decepticons that accompanied [[Megatron]] on the attack of the &#039;&#039;[[Ark]]&#039;&#039; spacecraft, Ravage was reformatted by [[Teletraan-1]] as an audiocassette to better blend in for operations based on Earth. Ravage served loyally as a Decepticon spy. He was one of the first Transformers to have been encountered by a human, as workers investigating a destroyed power station fell afoul of Ravage who pounced upon them and frightened them away. &lt;br /&gt;
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Shortly thereafter, Ravage accompanied Soundwave on an infiltration mission to gather data from Teletraan 1. Though Soundwave was discovered, Ravage was captured in an energy net and held captive. The Decepticon spy figured into a disinformation plot hatched by the Autobots, who purposely leaked the presence of a rocket fuel depository in the outlying desert. In truth, there was no rocket base -- Autobot [[Hound]] projected a holographic illusion in the hopes of luring the Decepticons into a trap. The Autobots allowed Ravage to escape and report back to Megatron, who easily saw through the ruse.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Timelines: Dawn of Future&#039;s Past&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
Although he never shows up in the comic, he is mentioned as being recruited along with fellow [[Mini-Cassette]]s [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]] by the Predacon [[Divebomb]], but for some reason left them soon afterwards to become an operative for the Tripredacus Council.&lt;br /&gt;
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===IDW comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
Ravage can talk.  Seriously.  He was last seen being buried under tons of liquid hot magma.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Beast Wars===&lt;br /&gt;
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====Toy Bio====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Shadow Panther&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:He looks like a Maximal, but he is really a Predacon. His thirst for the hunt can only be satiated by attacking many Maximals. Keep an eye on the darkness, for that is where Shadow Panther lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Metals&#039;&#039; Jaguar&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:The process of becoming a Predacon has cost Ravage some of his early Decepticon memories. His ability to become invisible is called Reflect Shade. His orders are to rid the planet [[Earth#Beast Wars|Energois]] of Transformers.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Tripredacus Agent&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:This lone assassin may look like a Maximal, but his irradiated spark is that of a Predacon. He was saved (and presumably rebuilt into a Transmetal 2) by the Vok. He can hide his energy signature, thanks to his unusual spark. In his history as a Predacon, he has adopted many names to better suit his covert line of work. His weapon is a low-radiation proton bomb launcher. As he loves the dark, the light is his weakness.&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Voice Actor:&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Lee Tockar]] (US), [[Toshiyuki Morikawa]] (Japan)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BWRavage_introduction.jpg|left|thumb|250px|&amp;quot;I will ask you only once more... Where are moose and squirrel?&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Ravage is one of the few Decepticon warriors who was granted amnesty at the end of the Great War and reformatted into a Predacon.  He was sent by the [[Tripredacus Council]] to capture [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], clean up any messes he might have made, and deal with the rest of the beast warriors. Ravage made the trip to prehistoric Earth in a specially modified stealth [[Transwarp Cruiser]]. He successfully contacted the [[Maximal]]s and allied with them to capture Megatron. Due to the stealth capabilities of his ship, and the fact that [[Tarantulas]] was also an agent of the council, Ravage and the Maximals easily captured Megatron and imprisoned him. {{Storylink|The Agenda, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron, however, had one more card to play. He knew that Ravage wasn&#039;t going to let any of the Beast warriors live, and also knew he had the one thing that would turn Ravage to his side. Using a fragment from the [[Golden Disk]], Megatron played Ravage the message on it from the original [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. Ravage, still driven by loyalty to &#039;&#039;his&#039;&#039; Megatron, joined the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]] and turned on the Maximals. {{Storylink|The Agenda, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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His latest treachery was short lived. During the assault on the [[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]], [[Rattrap]] infiltrated his ship and caused an explosion that destroyed the vessel and Ravage himself. His head, seemingly all that remained of him, was knocked into the water below the Axalon by one of Tarantulas&#039; [[spider-drone]]s. {{Storylink|The Agenda, Part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====IDW &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; comics====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ravage Teansmetal2.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Make up your MIND, will you?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Magmatron recovered Ravage&#039;s heavily-damaged torso, which still contained his spark. He then inserted the spark into a blank [[protoform]], and Ravage was reborn. In his Transmetal 2 body, he and his fellow Predacons, under the command of Magmatron, sought out [[Razorbeast]]&#039;s band of Maximals. Viewing from a safe distance, Ravage ordered his soldiers to engage. Additional Maximal forced arrived, however, and Ravage&#039;s forces were defeated. Ravage retreated into the wilderness. {{storylink|The Gathering}}&lt;br /&gt;
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(&#039;&#039;Despite being a continuity that borrows heavily from other G1 continuities, where it is suggested that Ravage is completely loyal to Megatron, before attempting to revive Ravage, Magmatron suggests that Ravage&#039;s most important loyalty is to Ravage himself.  This could simply be Magmatron&#039;s opinion, however, and is not necessarily indicative of Ravage&#039;s true loyalties.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Ravage never uses his robot mode in this story. Instead, he stands up on his hind legs in beast mode.&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Primeval Dawn&#039;&#039; comics====&lt;br /&gt;
An undead [[Vok]]-infested [[Tarantulas]] revived Ravage (in his Tripredacus Agent TM2 body) to help boost his forces. The remnants of Ravage&#039;s previous body were recycled by the Vok to re-create [[Tigatron]]. {{storylink|Universe (comic)|Primeval Dawn}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Binaltech&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
Ravage&#039;s part in the Binaltech storyline is a bit more complicated than past incarnations. Several years prior to the line&#039;s continuity, government-run [[Intelligence and Information Institute]] (or Triple I) unearths a msyterious black box during an archaeological dig. After years of probing, the container, dubbed &amp;quot;Schrödinger&#039;s Box&amp;quot; by the group&#039;s scientists, was revealed to be the flight recorder of Predacon Ravage&#039;s stealth ship, containing a copy of the feline&#039;s personality and memory engrams. When the scientists found a way to communicate with this personality, it offered them its knowledge of future events in exchange for a new body. Triple-I agreed, and used a fake Binaltech project to provide their part of the bargain. However, to truly bring the new Ravage to life, Triple-I stole the present-day Ravage - who had been somehow captured by the [[Earth Defense Command]] and stasis-locked into his cassette mode - and implanted him into the new Ravage, thereby &#039;fusing&#039; the old and new Ravages into one.&lt;br /&gt;
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This new Ravage, however, had no intention of fulfilling his end of the bargain and, after eliminating his benefactors and learning to his shock that history did &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; change in his faction&#039;s favor, decided to rectify his mistake. First on his agenda was his former commander, Megatron; stealing an Autobot shuttle, he located and repaired the [[Kronosphere]] and - during a decisive battle between Megatron&#039;s and Optimus Prime&#039;s forces that would have normally ended with the Autobots being forced off of Cybertron and into their moon bases - turned the weapon on his own faction, trapping Megatron and his crew in a space-time rift. This alteration in the timeline served two purposes: first, it would give the Autobots the chance to retake Cybertron, which would then lead to them having to face off against the oncoming [[Unicron]] alone, severely weakening them in the process. The second, and more important, purpose was to keep Megatron alive and in good health, thus preventing him from becoming the insane [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], and allowing him to lead the Decepticons to victory over the battle-weary Autobots. Ravage also reformatted [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] into a new Binaltech body of his own, so he could lead the remaining Decepticons in Megatron&#039;s absence, and secretly drailed many of the Autobots&#039; supply missions, further weakening them for their battle with the Chaos Bringer.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately for him, the Autobot named [[Overdrive]] became aware of Ravage&#039;s meddling in history, thanks to his acute sensitivity of the timestream, and - with the help of [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] - captured the wayward Decepticon and forced a confession out of him. Ravage, however, was not without a trump card, revealing that his alterations &#039;&#039;may&#039;&#039; prevent the deaths of many of the Autobots destined to die in the normal timeline (which, as a distinction between the two, was dubbed &#039;Prime Time&#039; by Wheeljack, Ravage&#039;s altered timeline being called &#039;Ravage Time&#039;), though in the grand scheme of things, only Optimus could not be considered expendable, as he contained the one thing that could bring down Unicron (the [[Autobot]] [[Matrix of Leadership]]). By the time of his capture, however, Unicron had already been sighted on a collision course with Cybertron and, despite the temptation of preventing future deaths among his ranks, Optimus decided Ravage&#039;s plans to be too dangerous to allow to come to fruitition. To that end, he ropes [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] into helping him fly to Unicron in a preemptive strike against the monstrous threat, while the other Autobots (left in the command of [[Skids (G1)|Skids]]), were to initiate &amp;quot;Operation: Distant Thunder&amp;quot;, which involved sending a copy of Wheeljack&#039;s memories of what Ravage confessed to them, back in time to a point prior to the Decepticon panther&#039;s meddling, via the energies located on [[Dinobot Island]]. If &amp;quot;Operation: Distant Thunder&amp;quot; worked as planned, Ravage&#039;s plans would be foiled, and any tremors in the timeline he caused would be smoothed over by &amp;quot;Project Body Shop&amp;quot; (aka, the Binaltech project). However, just as Skids gives the signal to transmit the memory engrams, the Autobot base is rocked by an entire fleet of Decepticons. The Autobots just barely manage to hold off the fleet, ensuring that &amp;quot;Operation: Distant Thunder&amp;quot; proves to be a success (though a [[Nemesis Prime|black Optimus Prime]] ends up separating the Binaltech timeline from the original, as supposedly the Binaltech-bodied Transformers have a higher purpose in the Grand Scheme of Things), though there is no mention of what happens to Ravage.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the &#039;&#039;Beast Wars Metals&#039;&#039; manga, Metals Jaguar was portrayed as G1 Jaguar&#039;s  homicidal son, with Jaguar taking the design of the Happy Meal Panther toy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ravage immediately recognized what a hydro electric station was, a method of generating power used on Cybertron &amp;quot;way way back in the mists of time,&amp;quot; when Transformers were not much more advanced in science than humans are now.&lt;br /&gt;
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This suggests that Ravage is among the oldest of the Decepticons (even Megatron only feigned familiarity with this form of technology), or that he&#039;s a serious student of ancient energy generation techniques.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Generation 1===&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Ravage / Rumble&#039;&#039;&#039; (Caesstte, 1984/1998/1986/1987)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;19&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;D-59&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;D-104&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:G1Ravage_toy.jpg|left|thumb|Behold... the world&#039;s skinniest jaguar.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: The first Ravage toy transforms from a robotic jaguar (or whatever) into a microcassette.  In cassette mode, he can fit into the tape compartments fo the [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and [[Blaster]] toys.  For his [[Hasbro]] release, he was sold on a card along with [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] in 1984-1986, and as an individual with an extra clear-plastic tape-case by [[Takara]] from 1985-1987.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This mold was later used to make [[Glit]] and [[Howlback]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Soundblaster&#039;&#039;&#039; (Transformers Collection, 2005)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;18&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:G1Jaguar(reissue).jpg|right|thumb|A light breeze is enough to defeat him.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: The [[Transformers Collection]] [[reissue]] of Soundblaster (the rebuilt form of Soundwave from the Japanese [[Headmasters (franchise)|Headmasters series]]) came with bonus &amp;quot;Cassettrons&amp;quot; Jaguar (Ravage) and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]].  Both came with their own extra tape-cases, and small stickers depicting the &#039;weak points&#039; of [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortess Maximus]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Soundwave&#039;&#039;&#039; (Decepticon, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Hasbro&#039;s reissue of Soundwave is a [[redeco]] of the Transformers Collection Soundblaster, coming with the double-tape door and both Ravage and Laserbeak as pack-ins.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Beast Wars===&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Shadow Panther&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 1996)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;D-7&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ShadowPanther_toy.jpg|right|thumb|Fuzzy kitty!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: This toy is a [[redeco]] of the original [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] toy in black, silver, and yellow, transforming into a generic big feline.  His tail/flanks separate to form a non-firing blaster, while his underbelly forms a water-shooting &amp;quot;gut gun&amp;quot; that can be used in either mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Much later, this toy was offered through Hasbro&#039;s online collector service under the name &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Tripredacus Agent&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;, with an online bio indicating he was the same character as Ravage (then called &amp;quot;Tripredacus Agent&amp;quot; due to [[trademark]] isuues).&lt;br /&gt;
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: This mold was also used to make [[Tigatron]], and was planned to be used for the cancelled &#039;&#039;[[Universe]]&#039;&#039; toy [[Nightprowler]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;&#039;Jaguar&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe 1999)&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;X-9&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JaguarX9_toy.jpg|left|thumb|Metal kitty!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: &#039;&#039;Beast Wars Metals&#039;&#039; Jaguar is a heavy [[retool]]ing of [[Transmetal]] Cheetor, just as Ravage&#039;s robot mode CG model in the show is an altered Transmetal Cheetor.  He transforms into a robotic big cat, with flip-out thrusters for a third &amp;quot;flight&amp;quot; mode (not, as in the episode, into a cassette tape that plays wicked 1980&#039;s style electric guitar, for obvious reasons). His forearms each have a spring-loaded flip out pistol stub, which can be extended with add-on barrels that clip to his rear legs in beast mode.  his tail also can detach to forma whip-weapon, but he doesn&#039;t hold it very well.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &#039;&#039;&#039;Tripredacus Agent&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2001) &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TripredacusAgent_toy.jpg|right|thumb|Mutant kitty!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: This Wal-Mart [[exclusive]] is a redeco of --wait, can you guess?-- Transmetal 2 Cheetor, in black, silver, and gold, transforming into a monstrous techno-organic (but not [[technorganic]]) big cat.  He has a spring-loaded missile launcher on his cat-mode back that can be removed and used as a hand-held weapon, plus his tail detaches to forma hand-held flail.  His left forearm has a flip-up blaster-shield (of dubious usefulness), while flipping up a panel on his right-rear leg reveals his [[spark crystal]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Smallest Transforming Transformers===&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Soundwave&#039;&#039;&#039; (2003)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;GTF 05&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:STFRavage.jpg|left|thumb|So tiny... So CUTE!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: The &#039;&#039;[[Smallest Transforming Transformers]]&#039;&#039; version of Soundwave comes with a &#039;&#039;teeeeeny&#039;&#039; version of Ravage, which does actually transform into a microcassette that fits in the tape-case door.  Smallest Ravage may very well be the actual smallest functioning &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; toy made.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Alternators===&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Battle Ravage&#039;&#039;&#039; (2004)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;BT-11&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AlternatorsRavage(Corvette).jpg|right|thumb|He brakes for Meow Mix.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: A retooling of &#039;&#039;[[Alternators]]&#039;&#039; [[Tracks]], &amp;quot;Battle&amp;quot; Ravage transforms into a 1:24-scale licensed replica of the Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Convertible, with opening doors, hood, trunk, plus a &amp;quot;realistic&amp;quot; driver/passenger compartment.  Each robot-mode forearm contains slide-out (non-firing) double blasters.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This mold was also used to make &#039;&#039;Alternators&#039;&#039; [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ravage&#039;&#039;&#039; (Alternator, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Alternatorsravagejaguar.jpg|left|thumb|100px|The Kittymobile.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: The second version of &#039;&#039;Alternators&#039;&#039; Ravage transforms into a 1:24-scale licensed Jaguar XK (appropriately enough), with all the normal bells and whistles inherent in the line (opening doors, seats, etc).  This is a toy of many &amp;quot;firsts&amp;quot;. Not only is it the first &#039;&#039;Alternators&#039;&#039; character with two distinctly-different toys, it&#039;s one of the first two Decepticon Alternators with an original mold (alongside [[Rumble]]). &#039;&#039;And&#039;&#039;, it&#039;s the first &#039;&#039;Alternators&#039;&#039; character to have a non-humanoid &amp;quot;robot&amp;quot; mode, as its non-car form is now a quadrupedal big cat.&lt;br /&gt;
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: After shipments appeared in various European markets, Ravage and Rumble&#039;s releases in the US were questionable for a while. However, it appears they were shuffled to be Wal-Mart [[exclusive]]s, set in an endcap display alongside the &#039;&#039;[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]&#039;&#039; [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]] exclusive gift-set in March/April of 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Merchandise==&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ravage Decoy&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Decoy ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;49&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: Coming packaged at random on carded &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; toys during 1986, this is a soft-rubber version of Ravage in his jaguar mode.  He --like all Decepticon [[Decoy]]s-- was available in both purple and red, with the red version being considerably rarer.  These are not erasers!&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* Ravage&#039;s original packaging art is by far the most-copied depiction of any Transformer.  It was, of course, adapted for his &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Universe (Marvel Comics)|Transformers Universe]]&#039;&#039; profile [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;amp;char=Ravage], but was also used (twice) in 1985&#039;s &amp;quot;back-of-the-box&amp;quot; battle scene [http://www.botchthecrab.com/galleryImage.asp?gallery=7&amp;amp;image=33], was copied in licensed coloring books and storybooks, and the pose also showed up repeatedly in the Marvel Comics.   In &amp;quot;[[Time Wars, Part 2]]&amp;quot; (Marvel UK #200), artist [[Robin Smith]] copied the art multiple times across several subsequent panels.  And it was, of course, recolored for Howlback&#039;s card-art.  Yikes.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;amp;char=Ravage Ravage Transformers Universe profile]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Ravage/ravage.htm Ravage at TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
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