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Prowl (WFC)

2011-06-10T03:25:53Z

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{{disambig3|Prowl}}

:''Prowl is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:ProwlTFU.JPG|mainpic|thumb|350px|That's a bot you'll meet... in the future.]]

An experienced militia and police officer, '''Prowl''' joined [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]]'s Autobots in the war against the [[Decepticon]]s, contributing his knowledge of combat in urban areas.

{{quote|"Are you asking me or [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]]? Because he can barely talk."<br>"Prowl. I don't think anyone here needs sarcasm right now."|noquote=true|[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] tells Prowl to stop being a prick.}}

==Fiction==
===''Exodus''===
Prowl acted as go-between for the civilian [[Autobot High Council|High Council]] guards and various city-state militas. He allied with Optimus during Megatron's attack on [[Praxus]]. During the siege of [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]] Prowl informed Optimus that [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] was aboard [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]] Station. Optimus feared Megatron had found a new weapon. [[Alpha Trion (WFC)|Alpha Trion]] asked the Autobots what they knew about [[Energon (fuel)|Energon]]. Prowl tried to silence Jazz's jokes as he felt anything the Archivist had to say was significant, but even he laughed when Jazz felt Alpha Trion had not sufficiently explained what Energon was when he said it was the emanation of [[Primus]]. Alpha Trion then adequately explained Megatron had found [[Dark Energon]], the emanation of [[Unicron]].

Optimus ordered Prowl to lead a guerilla team to draw out the Darkened Decepticons, to waste the resource in chases, when Prowl received a communication from [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] requesting a meeting. Prowl offered to go meet him in case it was a trap, but Optimus requested Starscream speak to him on a secure channel instead. When the Darkened Decepticons stole the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]], Prowl helped fight them off and got [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] to repair [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]], whom Megatron almost killed. Afterwards, Prowl received a distress signal from [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]]. He traced it to [[Kaon]], as he recognized the signal blocking its source was used by gladiators to hide messages they didn't want on the [[Communication Grid]] from his pre-war days working in the [[Hydrax Plateau|Hydrax]]-[[Badlands]] circuit.

Prowl rescued Sentinel with Optimus and [[Jazz (WFC)|Jazz]]. While recovering, Optimus went to Cybertron's [[core]] to purge its Dark Energon corruption and returned declaring [[Ark (WFC)|Project Generation One]]. Prowl became part of the ''[[Eight Track (WFC)|Eight Track]]'' crew, boarding Trypticon and sustaining heavy damage battling its drones and Minicons. He helped destroy its Dark Energon Facility, causing it to crash into the planet. He boarded the ''Ark'' with the other Autobots, journeying through the last [[space bridge]] to a [[Milky Way|spiral galaxy]]. Then Prowl detected the [[AllSpark]]. ''{{storylink|Transformers: Exodus}}''

==Games==
===''Transformers Universe''===
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==Notes==
*Prowl is based on [[Prowl (G1)|Generation 1 Prowl]], but his weapons and tactics — using stars and knives to fight Sentinel's prison guards — bear similarity to [[Prowl (Animated)|''Animated'' Prowl]] with his [[Cyber-Ninja Corps|Cyber-Ninja]] background.
*He isn't in the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|''War for Cybertron'' games]]. We blame his absence from the [[live-action film series|films]].

[[Category:Fiction-only Transformers]]
[[Category:Prime Autobots]]
[[Category:Security officers]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Autobots]]

Talk:Optimus Prime (WFC)

2011-06-10T03:03:35Z

66.82.9.49: /* Um... */

This disambig tag fills me with glee. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 13:12, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:Though why people find this funny confuses me. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:22, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::I just imagine [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] saying it, it. Or would that be Optimus Prime (Prime), (Prime)? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:34, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

I guess the archivist thing is from Exodus? 'cause in the WfC game he instead mentions having been a dock worker.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 14:44, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::When did he mention that? I honestly don't remember him saying that, but my memory is not exactly something to go on. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:06, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:::It's during the in-game banter, I'd say during the second autobot chapter but could be the third. If memory serves, a teammate voices his approval of Optimus' taking matters in his own hands and acting like a leader and Optimus retorts as soon as the war's over he'll go back to working at the docks. [[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 03:47, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
: Yay, more inconsistencies! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:46, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::And I thought nothing could be more inconsistent with established continuity than AHM. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 15:49, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:::And is it 100 percent certain the Optimus in WFC and the one in Prime will be the same guy, cause I've been tracking the news, and beyond a lot of speculation and vague suggestion, nothing seems confirmed [[Special:Contributions/148.197.8.240|148.197.8.240]] 00.01 30 Jube 2010
::::Everyone at Hasbro sure seems to think so. ''Exodus'', which is written apparently from the ''Prime'' show backstory, includes the events of WFC loosely within its second half. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:11, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::Even if they're not in the exact same universe, they're certainly in the same continuity family, so they'd get the same page. Just as Sunbow Prime and IDW Prime are both on the G1 page.[[User:Kaje|Kaje]] 19:31, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::And there are others. Well, I haven't read Exodus but based on the summary on this wiki it's more like two different stories that reach the same end point. For one, in WfC Optimus doesn't become a Prime at the beginning of the war, but after Zeta's death, mere days before the evacuation. And the Matrix is introduced in a completely different way, possibly doesnt even ''exist'' until the end of chapter 8. [[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:29, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Exodus tries to have it both ways. Once you get to the end of the book and Sentinel dies, Optimus gets the Matrix then, and Alpha Trion notes that Prime wasn't truly a Prime until this moment, regardless of what the council said. So he was dubbed a Prime by the council at the beginning, but it wasn't really true until just before they left Earth. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:34, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Yeah, I guess it's an honorable fix, yet still doesn't mesh, mind you. In the game it's mentioned Optimus first refused to be a Prime, which is why he doesn't have the title (whether or not this landed Zeta the job is unclear since the way they word it at times I may almost think they could have several Primes at once) and the Matrix is unrelated to the Council and the Prime title they bestow.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:42, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::Why don't we just change the opening to "The young bot who would become Optimus Prime" rather than have it at Optimus or Orion Pax, and wait until Prime premiers and see if it ever goes with one or the other?

In the game, it's Optimus, not Orion Pax. Does the book override the game, or vice versa?
-ThiAthEhn
: The events of the game happen within the last half of the novel, after Optimus has stopped being Orion Pax. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:52, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
::The tricky bit is still that the game starts before he decides to become Optimus Prime, ie in the novel he goes from Orion Pax to Optimus Prime, while in the game he goes from Optimus to Optimus Prime.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 12:52, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Yeah, the article's current bio doesn't take into account the WFC game at all. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:59, 1 July 2010 (EDT)
:::Hmm. The game does have a scene where Megatron and Optimus talk about something that happened between them before the game started. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:19, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

== So, do we have to move WFC stuff I've written to new character articles? ==

Argh. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:48, 1 July 2010 (EDT)
:Just like I predicted, yes. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 14:00, 1 July 2010 (EDT)
::I'm too tired to clean this giant mess right now. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:01, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

== Profile Should Be Rewritten ==

The Character profile here right now is all Exodus stuff. But almost all of it is stuff that is totally different in WfC. The Character profiles are supposed to be generic and fit all version of the character. I think this one needs to be moved to the Exodus sub-section and a new more general Prime (Prime) (that's fun) profile written, Yes?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 08:57, 3 July 2010 (EDT)
:I agree, it's a bit too specific about the Exodus stuff considering what a big deal WFC is as a form of Prime media. I believe the reason it totally lacks WFC stuff is because Walky wrote it and apparently hasn't played WFC yet. Well, I presume on the last, anyway. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:55, 3 July 2010 (EDT)
::I guess nobody cares then. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:57, 4 July 2010 (EDT)
:::I care, and I think it does need to be rewritten but I think that'll be a LOT easier to do once Prime is on TV and we have more to work with. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 07:23, 11 August 2010 (EDT)
:Exodus appears to be the official backstory of the Prime continuity, judging by the [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/play/details.cfm?guid=7fd5ecd9-19b9-f369-1041-a7635be83172 official timeline]. For all the marketing hype about how WFC was totally in-continuity and everything, it appears the video game is, as video games usually are, a [[micro-continuity]]. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:44, 11 August 2010 (EDT)

== G1==

So Exodus is based off the prime cartoon but war for cybertron is a prequel to g1.And if you disagree hasbro themselves sayed that. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1|14:54, July 5, 2010 (EDT)}}
:Yes, it is, no it isn't, no they haven't, sign your posts, Do The Research. Thank you for your time. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 15:41, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
::I wouldn't jump to conclusions right now. Videogames based on franchises tend to get retconned, like what happened to the Ultimate Spider-Man video game. Also, the show has been described as a mix of Animated and Live-Action films, which the game doesn't really reflect. If we are going to reclassify characters we should use something like "Optimus Prime (WFC)" until everything gets really confirmed.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 22:19, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
THANK YOU someone gets it. "unregistered" 11:35, 6 July 2010 (EDT){{unsigned|98.204.17.1}}

For Primus' sake, it was confirmed at Comic-Con that Prime follows on from WFC. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 16:33, 30 July 2010 (EDT)

== Toy ==

The fig looks awesome with [[Octane#Universe_.282008.29|Tankor]]'s guns on his forearms! [[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 14:33, 21 August 2010 (EDT)
:And this is relevant how? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 15:26, 21 August 2010 (EDT)

== Move ==

So yeah, I've been suggesting this for a while, and this goes for all WFC (including ''Exodus'') articles, which we're really treating as a separate franchise now we've gone with Aligned as the continuity family's name for now. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 05:02, 28 February 2011 (EST)
:I disagree with moving this article, because WFC isn't really a separate franchise. It's some tie-in games that Hasbro licensed to launch their new continuity with. The related toys didn't even have their own logo, they were released as "Generations". --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:17, 28 February 2011 (EST)
:Moving it just sort of feels "wrong" to me in a way I can't properly articulate. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:58, 28 February 2011 (EST)
:I disagree with moving any of these articles, for the reasons articulated by abates. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:01, 28 February 2011 (EST)
:No. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 08:09, 28 February 2011 (EST)
:I don't even consider War for Cybertron to be a franchise, so no. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 08:44, 28 February 2011 (EST)
:No chance in Hades. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:49, 28 February 2011 (EST)
::Right now I can see two distinct reasons beyond "no" (this isn't a poll actually). One, WFC is no less a franchise than Power Core Combiners, and it was a game accompanied by a novel, a comic and toys. At one point ''Prime'' toys were going to be released as Generations, but it's still a Transformers franchise. Afterall, [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] was released as part of the unsubtitled range last year, but he's still a G1 character.
::Chris, I know how you feel about moving it to (WFC) as ''Prime'' is where we're really getting to know these characters, that's why we have the ''Prime'' designs as the main images. If you are for uniformity, perhaps it is time to move [[Optimus Prime (Movie)]] to "Optimus Prime (LVF)", and this to "Optimus Prime (Aligned)"?
::Regardless, I will be adding WFC Autobots and Decepticons cats to these pages. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 09:45, 28 February 2011 (EST)
:::Remember "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds", or in more wiki-related terms "[[Help:Ignore all standards|in situations where the standards intended to prevent confusion would instead contribute to it, common sense should rule.]]" That's why all the Shattered Glass characters are at (SG) even though some of them are technically (Timelines).--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:12, 28 February 2011 (EST)
::::"[[Optimus Prime (Prime)]]" debuted before "''Prime''" even existed. He predates ''Prime''. So I don't like "Optimus Prime (Prime)." Categorizing Aligned things by franchise might be obsolete. The toyline is no longer organized by franchise. I think "Optimus Prime (Aligned)" is the way to go. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:36, 28 February 2011 (EST)
:::::I lean towards Optimus Prime (Aligned) myself because it's Right, though I also think there's a good argument for keeping it Prime (Prime) because its Simpler for Users. So...?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 12:45, 28 February 2011 (EST)
::::::No one outside the wiki will know what "aligned" means, and we don't disambiguate by continuity family anyway. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 13:48, 28 February 2011 (EST)

:::I didn't realize this conversation existed, so I started [[Talk:Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)#"(WFC)" instead of "(Prime)" for characters that originated in this franchise?|another one on the same topic over here]] and covered basically everything people have brought up. For the record, I agree entirely with what Alientraveller has said. "(WFC)" for most of these guys, "(Prime)" for the ones that originated in the cartoon, and "(Aligned)" for none of them because we disambig by franchise, not family. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 14:06, 28 February 2011 (EST)
::::I feel if we're going to talk about moving a bunch of high-profile characters, it should probably be discussed somewhere more central like the community portal. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:43, 28 February 2011 (EST)

I believe we should keep O.P. (Prime) seperate from his WFC page. In my opinion, they are different enough to warrent seperation.--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 10:34, 2 March 2011 (EST)
: That is absolutely not going to happen. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:32, 2 March 2011 (EST)
:Yeah, because nobody is allowed to change in personality over the course of '''untold millions of years'''. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:45, 2 March 2011 (EST)
::He's not talking about the personality. At least, I hope not, since they're both Stock Movie Peter Cullen Prime. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:32, 2 March 2011 (EST)
:::Well, my point about change still stands just as well in regards to appearance as it does in regards to personality. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:36, 2 March 2011 (EST)
::::Yeah, just run down the [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys]] page and look at all the 30 million bodies he went through. Prime (Prime) just has two. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:53, 2 March 2011 (EST)

: No no no no no no no no no no nononono fucking NO. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:20, 2 March 2011 (EST)
: If Hasbro hadn't specifically said that WFC and Prime go together, you might have had a point. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:27, 2 March 2011 (EST)

I agree with Sipher.

Page is staying at (Prime) for now, as with all WFC characters who are in ''Prime'', per an agreement at the Community Portal to keep those characters at (Prime) to not confuse the normal readers. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 14:07, 5 March 2011 (EST)

== Animated? ==

"The instructions show the rifle being plugged in by its shorter peg, which causes it to resemble the Transformers Animated Voyager-class Optimus Prime...", how does it resemble him at all?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 16:18, 25 March 2011 (EDT)
:It's referring to the shape of the guns being similar. [[Special:Contributions/98.209.73.178|98.209.73.178]] 19:39, 25 March 2011 (EDT)
::And yet they aren't, at all. The note is removed. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:21, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

== Um... ==

I think I saw somewhere (I don't know where) on this wiki that there was an image of Optimus is WFC 2, can you gimme the link, please? Thanks. --[[Special:Contributions/66.82.9.49|66.82.9.49]] 23:00, 9 June 2011 (EDT), For the last time, IT'S KAON_PRISONER!!!

Talk:Optimus Prime (WFC)

2011-06-10T03:00:15Z

66.82.9.49: /* Um... */ new section

This disambig tag fills me with glee. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 13:12, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:Though why people find this funny confuses me. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:22, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::I just imagine [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] saying it, it. Or would that be Optimus Prime (Prime), (Prime)? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:34, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

I guess the archivist thing is from Exodus? 'cause in the WfC game he instead mentions having been a dock worker.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 14:44, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::When did he mention that? I honestly don't remember him saying that, but my memory is not exactly something to go on. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:06, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:::It's during the in-game banter, I'd say during the second autobot chapter but could be the third. If memory serves, a teammate voices his approval of Optimus' taking matters in his own hands and acting like a leader and Optimus retorts as soon as the war's over he'll go back to working at the docks. [[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 03:47, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
: Yay, more inconsistencies! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:46, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::And I thought nothing could be more inconsistent with established continuity than AHM. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 15:49, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:::And is it 100 percent certain the Optimus in WFC and the one in Prime will be the same guy, cause I've been tracking the news, and beyond a lot of speculation and vague suggestion, nothing seems confirmed [[Special:Contributions/148.197.8.240|148.197.8.240]] 00.01 30 Jube 2010
::::Everyone at Hasbro sure seems to think so. ''Exodus'', which is written apparently from the ''Prime'' show backstory, includes the events of WFC loosely within its second half. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:11, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::Even if they're not in the exact same universe, they're certainly in the same continuity family, so they'd get the same page. Just as Sunbow Prime and IDW Prime are both on the G1 page.[[User:Kaje|Kaje]] 19:31, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::And there are others. Well, I haven't read Exodus but based on the summary on this wiki it's more like two different stories that reach the same end point. For one, in WfC Optimus doesn't become a Prime at the beginning of the war, but after Zeta's death, mere days before the evacuation. And the Matrix is introduced in a completely different way, possibly doesnt even ''exist'' until the end of chapter 8. [[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:29, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Exodus tries to have it both ways. Once you get to the end of the book and Sentinel dies, Optimus gets the Matrix then, and Alpha Trion notes that Prime wasn't truly a Prime until this moment, regardless of what the council said. So he was dubbed a Prime by the council at the beginning, but it wasn't really true until just before they left Earth. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:34, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Yeah, I guess it's an honorable fix, yet still doesn't mesh, mind you. In the game it's mentioned Optimus first refused to be a Prime, which is why he doesn't have the title (whether or not this landed Zeta the job is unclear since the way they word it at times I may almost think they could have several Primes at once) and the Matrix is unrelated to the Council and the Prime title they bestow.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 08:42, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::Why don't we just change the opening to "The young bot who would become Optimus Prime" rather than have it at Optimus or Orion Pax, and wait until Prime premiers and see if it ever goes with one or the other?

In the game, it's Optimus, not Orion Pax. Does the book override the game, or vice versa?
-ThiAthEhn
: The events of the game happen within the last half of the novel, after Optimus has stopped being Orion Pax. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:52, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
::The tricky bit is still that the game starts before he decides to become Optimus Prime, ie in the novel he goes from Orion Pax to Optimus Prime, while in the game he goes from Optimus to Optimus Prime.[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 12:52, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Yeah, the article's current bio doesn't take into account the WFC game at all. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:59, 1 July 2010 (EDT)
:::Hmm. The game does have a scene where Megatron and Optimus talk about something that happened between them before the game started. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:19, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

== So, do we have to move WFC stuff I've written to new character articles? ==

Argh. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:48, 1 July 2010 (EDT)
:Just like I predicted, yes. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 14:00, 1 July 2010 (EDT)
::I'm too tired to clean this giant mess right now. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:01, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

== Profile Should Be Rewritten ==

The Character profile here right now is all Exodus stuff. But almost all of it is stuff that is totally different in WfC. The Character profiles are supposed to be generic and fit all version of the character. I think this one needs to be moved to the Exodus sub-section and a new more general Prime (Prime) (that's fun) profile written, Yes?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 08:57, 3 July 2010 (EDT)
:I agree, it's a bit too specific about the Exodus stuff considering what a big deal WFC is as a form of Prime media. I believe the reason it totally lacks WFC stuff is because Walky wrote it and apparently hasn't played WFC yet. Well, I presume on the last, anyway. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:55, 3 July 2010 (EDT)
::I guess nobody cares then. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:57, 4 July 2010 (EDT)
:::I care, and I think it does need to be rewritten but I think that'll be a LOT easier to do once Prime is on TV and we have more to work with. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 07:23, 11 August 2010 (EDT)
:Exodus appears to be the official backstory of the Prime continuity, judging by the [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/play/details.cfm?guid=7fd5ecd9-19b9-f369-1041-a7635be83172 official timeline]. For all the marketing hype about how WFC was totally in-continuity and everything, it appears the video game is, as video games usually are, a [[micro-continuity]]. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:44, 11 August 2010 (EDT)

== G1==

So Exodus is based off the prime cartoon but war for cybertron is a prequel to g1.And if you disagree hasbro themselves sayed that. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1|14:54, July 5, 2010 (EDT)}}
:Yes, it is, no it isn't, no they haven't, sign your posts, Do The Research. Thank you for your time. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 15:41, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
::I wouldn't jump to conclusions right now. Videogames based on franchises tend to get retconned, like what happened to the Ultimate Spider-Man video game. Also, the show has been described as a mix of Animated and Live-Action films, which the game doesn't really reflect. If we are going to reclassify characters we should use something like "Optimus Prime (WFC)" until everything gets really confirmed.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 22:19, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
THANK YOU someone gets it. "unregistered" 11:35, 6 July 2010 (EDT){{unsigned|98.204.17.1}}

For Primus' sake, it was confirmed at Comic-Con that Prime follows on from WFC. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 16:33, 30 July 2010 (EDT)

== Toy ==

The fig looks awesome with [[Octane#Universe_.282008.29|Tankor]]'s guns on his forearms! [[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 14:33, 21 August 2010 (EDT)
:And this is relevant how? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 15:26, 21 August 2010 (EDT)

== Move ==

So yeah, I've been suggesting this for a while, and this goes for all WFC (including ''Exodus'') articles, which we're really treating as a separate franchise now we've gone with Aligned as the continuity family's name for now. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 05:02, 28 February 2011 (EST)
:I disagree with moving this article, because WFC isn't really a separate franchise. It's some tie-in games that Hasbro licensed to launch their new continuity with. The related toys didn't even have their own logo, they were released as "Generations". --[[User:Abates|abates]] 07:17, 28 February 2011 (EST)
:Moving it just sort of feels "wrong" to me in a way I can't properly articulate. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:58, 28 February 2011 (EST)
:I disagree with moving any of these articles, for the reasons articulated by abates. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:01, 28 February 2011 (EST)
:No. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 08:09, 28 February 2011 (EST)
:I don't even consider War for Cybertron to be a franchise, so no. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 08:44, 28 February 2011 (EST)
:No chance in Hades. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:49, 28 February 2011 (EST)
::Right now I can see two distinct reasons beyond "no" (this isn't a poll actually). One, WFC is no less a franchise than Power Core Combiners, and it was a game accompanied by a novel, a comic and toys. At one point ''Prime'' toys were going to be released as Generations, but it's still a Transformers franchise. Afterall, [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] was released as part of the unsubtitled range last year, but he's still a G1 character.
::Chris, I know how you feel about moving it to (WFC) as ''Prime'' is where we're really getting to know these characters, that's why we have the ''Prime'' designs as the main images. If you are for uniformity, perhaps it is time to move [[Optimus Prime (Movie)]] to "Optimus Prime (LVF)", and this to "Optimus Prime (Aligned)"?
::Regardless, I will be adding WFC Autobots and Decepticons cats to these pages. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 09:45, 28 February 2011 (EST)
:::Remember "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds", or in more wiki-related terms "[[Help:Ignore all standards|in situations where the standards intended to prevent confusion would instead contribute to it, common sense should rule.]]" That's why all the Shattered Glass characters are at (SG) even though some of them are technically (Timelines).--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:12, 28 February 2011 (EST)
::::"[[Optimus Prime (Prime)]]" debuted before "''Prime''" even existed. He predates ''Prime''. So I don't like "Optimus Prime (Prime)." Categorizing Aligned things by franchise might be obsolete. The toyline is no longer organized by franchise. I think "Optimus Prime (Aligned)" is the way to go. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:36, 28 February 2011 (EST)
:::::I lean towards Optimus Prime (Aligned) myself because it's Right, though I also think there's a good argument for keeping it Prime (Prime) because its Simpler for Users. So...?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 12:45, 28 February 2011 (EST)
::::::No one outside the wiki will know what "aligned" means, and we don't disambiguate by continuity family anyway. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 13:48, 28 February 2011 (EST)

:::I didn't realize this conversation existed, so I started [[Talk:Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)#"(WFC)" instead of "(Prime)" for characters that originated in this franchise?|another one on the same topic over here]] and covered basically everything people have brought up. For the record, I agree entirely with what Alientraveller has said. "(WFC)" for most of these guys, "(Prime)" for the ones that originated in the cartoon, and "(Aligned)" for none of them because we disambig by franchise, not family. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 14:06, 28 February 2011 (EST)
::::I feel if we're going to talk about moving a bunch of high-profile characters, it should probably be discussed somewhere more central like the community portal. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:43, 28 February 2011 (EST)

I believe we should keep O.P. (Prime) seperate from his WFC page. In my opinion, they are different enough to warrent seperation.--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 10:34, 2 March 2011 (EST)
: That is absolutely not going to happen. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:32, 2 March 2011 (EST)
:Yeah, because nobody is allowed to change in personality over the course of '''untold millions of years'''. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:45, 2 March 2011 (EST)
::He's not talking about the personality. At least, I hope not, since they're both Stock Movie Peter Cullen Prime. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:32, 2 March 2011 (EST)
:::Well, my point about change still stands just as well in regards to appearance as it does in regards to personality. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:36, 2 March 2011 (EST)
::::Yeah, just run down the [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys]] page and look at all the 30 million bodies he went through. Prime (Prime) just has two. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:53, 2 March 2011 (EST)

: No no no no no no no no no no nononono fucking NO. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:20, 2 March 2011 (EST)
: If Hasbro hadn't specifically said that WFC and Prime go together, you might have had a point. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:27, 2 March 2011 (EST)

I agree with Sipher.

Page is staying at (Prime) for now, as with all WFC characters who are in ''Prime'', per an agreement at the Community Portal to keep those characters at (Prime) to not confuse the normal readers. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 14:07, 5 March 2011 (EST)

== Animated? ==

"The instructions show the rifle being plugged in by its shorter peg, which causes it to resemble the Transformers Animated Voyager-class Optimus Prime...", how does it resemble him at all?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 16:18, 25 March 2011 (EDT)
:It's referring to the shape of the guns being similar. [[Special:Contributions/98.209.73.178|98.209.73.178]] 19:39, 25 March 2011 (EDT)
::And yet they aren't, at all. The note is removed. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:21, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

== Um... ==

I think I saw somewhere (I don't know where on this wiki that there was an image of Optimus is WFC 2, can you gimme the link, please? Thanks. --[[Special:Contributions/66.82.9.49|66.82.9.49]] 23:00, 9 June 2011 (EDT), For the last time, IT'S KAON_PRISONER!!!

Barricade (WFC)

2011-06-10T02:55:30Z

66.82.9.49: WHOOPS!!!

{{faction|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Barricade}}
:''Barricade is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:BarricadeTFU.JPG|right|300px|thumb|[[Barricade (Movie)|Where are the glass--]] Whoops, wrong character!]]
'''Barricade''' is a true speed demon, powering his engine to speeds faster than some jets. He is a brutal leader on the battlefield, scolding Decepticons that don't perform up to his and [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron's]] standards. His favorite tactic is to goad [[Autobot]]s into transforming and chasing him, then taking them on fatal routes that only he can navigate. His skill is such that Megatron doesn't often threaten to kill him, even in the face of direct questioning.

{{quote|Huh. And we're fresh out of star cruisers to tunnel our way.|Barricade, criticizing Megatron's tactics and not getting dead for it|[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]]}}

==Fiction==
===''Exodus''===
Barricade ran the day-to-day events of [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]'s [[gladiatorial combat|gladiatorial ring]]/revolutionary movement/emerging army. When [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]] came to [[Kaon]] for his first face-to-face meeting with Megatron, Barricade and [[Lugnut (WFC)|Lugnut]] "greeted" him at the entrance to their headquarters. Throughout Orion's tour of the headquarters, Barricade followed and got lippy with the archivist, but was rather curtly cut off by Megatron. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Steve Blum]] (English)

[[Image:WFCBarricade.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Stop stealing [[Breakdown (Prime)|poses]] Barricade!]]
During the early days of the war against the Autobots, Barricade was part of the bridge crew of a Decepticon Star Cruiser under the command of their leader, [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]], serving alongside [[Brawl (WFC)|Brawl]]. Megatron planned to steal the last remaining supply of [[Dark Energon]] from an orbiting relay station guarded by the neutral Sky Commander [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]. After gaining entry into the station (by ramming the ship into the station; talk about a barricade), Barricade accompanied Megatron and Brawl into the station...so that Megatron could use the corrupted, highly dangerous energy source to 'save' Cybertron. Yeah, it wasn't a very good plan. While fighting through the station, and hordes of Starscream's soldiers, Barricade expressed doubts that Dark Energon was everything Megatron believed it to be, and also that the station was ''totally'' old and decrepit, noting in particular the large number of cubic crates. Strange he never noticed that fourth wall... Anyway, Megatron said he had plans to [[Trypticon (WFC)|upgrade]] the station. Barricade further asked him what made him so certain he could control the Dark Energon, to which Megatron explained that only the strong could control such a power, and he was the strongest. Okay, so the invasion of Normandy, this really was not.

Megatron was getting annoyed by this point, and told Barricade not to question him again. Barricade obeyed, and despite his skepticism, helped Megatron secure the supply of Dark Energon. It would seem his skepticism about the Dark Energon was silenced when Megatron infused him with its power. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
{{Note|Barricade is an unlockable character for the Nintendo DS version of ''War for Cybertron''. On the Decepticon version he can replace any of the other Decepticons in the campaign mode. He can be unlocked by beating Stadium 6 in Arena Mode.}}
[[Image:WFCDS Barricade.jpg|thumb|right|100px]]
Barricade often sparred with other Decepticons in Kaon Stadium. When Soundwave discovered the location of Trypticon Space Station, Barricade was part of the crew of Megatron's ship during the attack. He was very concerned when the station defenses reduced the ship's shields to 15%, and told Megatron it was a big risk to take over a legend. Despite Barricade's worries, they took the station and obtained Dark Energon. Following tests, Barricade asked Soundwave what happened to the failed test subjects, but Soundwave's reply didn't reassure him. He reluctantly submitted to an infusion of Dark Energon at Soundwave's hands.

Starscream discovered the existence of the Energon Bridge, which they could use to repower Trypticon station, but they would need all of the Dark Energon they had left to reach and reactivate it. Barricade was skeptical that they should risk everything on Starscream's word, but went along with the plan anyway. They reactivated the Energon Bridge, but the Autobots severed the link to the core, and secured it with the Omega Key. As the Decepticons attempted to track the Key down, Barricade expressed doubt that anyone would follow Starscream, but the Air Commander was convinced his time would come.

They found the key, but to Barricade's alarm, it merely activated Omega Supreme, who kicked all of the Decepticons out of Iacon. Barricade was convinced they should retreat, but at Megatron's urging, the Decepticons moved forward and managed to defeat the giant. They subsequently infused the core of Cybertron with Dark Energon. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)}}

===Transformers: Cybertron Adventures===
{{charstubfiction}}
{{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}

===''Transformers Universe''===
{{comingsoon}}

==Notes==
* Barricade is based on his [[Barricade (G1)|Generation 1 counterpart]] while borrowing some design cues from the [[Barricade (Movie)|live-action film version]].
* There is a slight difference in the way Barricade looks like in the book compared to the game. In the book, he's described as black and white with ruby-red optics, while in the game, he has yellow eyes and purple detailing.
* In [[Transformers: Cybertron Adventures|Cybertron Adventures]], [[Skywarp (WFC)|Skywarp]] and [[Thundercracker (WFC)|Thundercracker]] make fun of his inability to fly by stating he likes to hold his arms out to the side and say "''VROOM!''" when he is by himself.

[[Category:Fiction-only Transformers]]
[[Category:Gladiators]]
[[Category:Prime Decepticons]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]

Barricade (WFC)

2011-06-10T02:54:19Z

66.82.9.49: No it's not his face.

{{faction|decepticon}}
{{disambig3|Barricade}}
:''Barricade is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:BarricadeTFU.JPG|right|300px|thumb|His crotch is [[Barricade (Movie)|Where are the glass--]] Whoops, wrong character!]]
'''Barricade''' is a true speed demon, powering his engine to speeds faster than some jets. He is a brutal leader on the battlefield, scolding Decepticons that don't perform up to his and [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron's]] standards. His favorite tactic is to goad [[Autobot]]s into transforming and chasing him, then taking them on fatal routes that only he can navigate. His skill is such that Megatron doesn't often threaten to kill him, even in the face of direct questioning.

{{quote|Huh. And we're fresh out of star cruisers to tunnel our way.|Barricade, criticizing Megatron's tactics and not getting dead for it|[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]]}}

==Fiction==
===''Exodus''===
Barricade ran the day-to-day events of [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]'s [[gladiatorial combat|gladiatorial ring]]/revolutionary movement/emerging army. When [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]] came to [[Kaon]] for his first face-to-face meeting with Megatron, Barricade and [[Lugnut (WFC)|Lugnut]] "greeted" him at the entrance to their headquarters. Throughout Orion's tour of the headquarters, Barricade followed and got lippy with the archivist, but was rather curtly cut off by Megatron. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Steve Blum]] (English)

[[Image:WFCBarricade.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Stop stealing [[Breakdown (Prime)|poses]] Barricade!]]
During the early days of the war against the Autobots, Barricade was part of the bridge crew of a Decepticon Star Cruiser under the command of their leader, [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]], serving alongside [[Brawl (WFC)|Brawl]]. Megatron planned to steal the last remaining supply of [[Dark Energon]] from an orbiting relay station guarded by the neutral Sky Commander [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]. After gaining entry into the station (by ramming the ship into the station; talk about a barricade), Barricade accompanied Megatron and Brawl into the station...so that Megatron could use the corrupted, highly dangerous energy source to 'save' Cybertron. Yeah, it wasn't a very good plan. While fighting through the station, and hordes of Starscream's soldiers, Barricade expressed doubts that Dark Energon was everything Megatron believed it to be, and also that the station was ''totally'' old and decrepit, noting in particular the large number of cubic crates. Strange he never noticed that fourth wall... Anyway, Megatron said he had plans to [[Trypticon (WFC)|upgrade]] the station. Barricade further asked him what made him so certain he could control the Dark Energon, to which Megatron explained that only the strong could control such a power, and he was the strongest. Okay, so the invasion of Normandy, this really was not.

Megatron was getting annoyed by this point, and told Barricade not to question him again. Barricade obeyed, and despite his skepticism, helped Megatron secure the supply of Dark Energon. It would seem his skepticism about the Dark Energon was silenced when Megatron infused him with its power. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
{{Note|Barricade is an unlockable character for the Nintendo DS version of ''War for Cybertron''. On the Decepticon version he can replace any of the other Decepticons in the campaign mode. He can be unlocked by beating Stadium 6 in Arena Mode.}}
[[Image:WFCDS Barricade.jpg|thumb|right|100px]]
Barricade often sparred with other Decepticons in Kaon Stadium. When Soundwave discovered the location of Trypticon Space Station, Barricade was part of the crew of Megatron's ship during the attack. He was very concerned when the station defenses reduced the ship's shields to 15%, and told Megatron it was a big risk to take over a legend. Despite Barricade's worries, they took the station and obtained Dark Energon. Following tests, Barricade asked Soundwave what happened to the failed test subjects, but Soundwave's reply didn't reassure him. He reluctantly submitted to an infusion of Dark Energon at Soundwave's hands.

Starscream discovered the existence of the Energon Bridge, which they could use to repower Trypticon station, but they would need all of the Dark Energon they had left to reach and reactivate it. Barricade was skeptical that they should risk everything on Starscream's word, but went along with the plan anyway. They reactivated the Energon Bridge, but the Autobots severed the link to the core, and secured it with the Omega Key. As the Decepticons attempted to track the Key down, Barricade expressed doubt that anyone would follow Starscream, but the Air Commander was convinced his time would come.

They found the key, but to Barricade's alarm, it merely activated Omega Supreme, who kicked all of the Decepticons out of Iacon. Barricade was convinced they should retreat, but at Megatron's urging, the Decepticons moved forward and managed to defeat the giant. They subsequently infused the core of Cybertron with Dark Energon. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)}}

===Transformers: Cybertron Adventures===
{{charstubfiction}}
{{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}

===''Transformers Universe''===
{{comingsoon}}

==Notes==
* Barricade is based on his [[Barricade (G1)|Generation 1 counterpart]] while borrowing some design cues from the [[Barricade (Movie)|live-action film version]].
* There is a slight difference in the way Barricade looks like in the book compared to the game. In the book, he's described as black and white with ruby-red optics, while in the game, he has yellow eyes and purple detailing.
* In [[Transformers: Cybertron Adventures|Cybertron Adventures]], [[Skywarp (WFC)|Skywarp]] and [[Thundercracker (WFC)|Thundercracker]] make fun of his inability to fly by stating he likes to hold his arms out to the side and say "''VROOM!''" when he is by himself.

[[Category:Fiction-only Transformers]]
[[Category:Gladiators]]
[[Category:Prime Decepticons]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]

File:ProwlTFU.JPG

2011-06-10T02:40:53Z

66.82.9.49: Forgot "at".

[[Prowl (Prime)|Prowl]] at the [[Transformers Universe]] booth at [[BotCon 2011]] {{hastak}}

File:ProwlTFU.JPG

2011-06-10T02:39:53Z

66.82.9.49: Oops.

[[Prowl (Prime)|Prowl]] at the [[Transformers Universe]] booth [[BotCon 2011]] {{hastak}}

File:ProwlTFU.JPG

2011-06-10T02:39:15Z

66.82.9.49: Changed the property.

[[Prowl (Prime)|Prowl]] at the [[Transformers Universe]] booth [[BotCon 2011]] {{tfw2005}}