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<p>67.140.110.210: /* Generation 1 */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Template:Disambig3|Cliffjumper}}<br /> <br /> :''Cliffjumper is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.''<br /> <br /> [[Image:Cliffjumperg1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|He's got a piece of paper that he claims contains a list of 200 known traitors.]]<br /> <br /> '''Cliffjumper''' hates traitors. And anybody could be a traitor. Therefore, Cliffjumper hates everybody. It's unclear if he hates traitors more than he hates [[Decepticon]]s, but it's at least a neck-and-neck thing.<br /> <br /> He makes a habit of pulling ridiculously huge guns from [[Exhaust port|nowhere]] and attacking impulsively despite orders or sanity. Somehow, this gets him neither killed nor demoted.<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper's special weapon is his &quot;glass gas&quot;, which embrittles metals on contact so that they shatter like glass. He is not immune to its effects, so its use requires careful consideration of wind direction. Actually, this may explain why he prefers the big guns. He doesn't seem like the calculating type.<br /> <br /> <br /> :''Preliminary name:'' '''Blow-Out'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''South American name:'' '''Carrera'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''Japanese name:'' '''Cliff'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''Italian name:'' '''Grillo'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''French-Canadian name:'' '''Matamore'''/'''Rapido'''<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Marvel Comics continuity===<br /> [[Image:Cliffjumperuk.jpg|left|thumb|Don't ask, don't tell, don't laugh.]]<br /> <br /> ''(Note: Italicized text occurs exclusively in the UK comics.)''<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew on board the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while clearing an asteroid field in the path of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron.]] He was deactivated for a while during [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s occupation of the Ark, but was repaired without incident when [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] reclaimed it.<br /> <br /> However, the head of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] was still missing, and during an attempt to retrieve it, an impostor head took control of Prime's body, firing on Cliffjumper. ''Presumably repaired, he later participated in the Dinobot Hunt, along with [[Gears]] and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]]. Although they found [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]], immediately thereafter all three were captured by the Decepticons. They were rescued by [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]].''<br /> <br /> He was one of the observers to [[Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s battle on the [[moon]]. How he fared in the following [[Decepticon]] attack is unknown, but he's never seen again.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Animated continuity===<br /> '''Voice Actor:''' [[Casey Kasem]] (US), [[Takurō Kitagawa]] (Japan)<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew onboard the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago during a search for new energy sources. His [[alt mode]] was reformatted into an oddly proportioned Porsche 924 Turbo. <br /> <br /> When the Autobots awakened from their four million-year slumber, Cliffjumper was eager for action. He volunteered to tag along on [[Hound]]'s recon mission to scout out Decepticons because he was itching to &quot;boot some Decepticon right in his [[turbocharger]].&quot; Though [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s orders were only to find the Decepticons, Cliffjumper brashly tried to engage the enemy once Hound sniffed them out. <br /> <br /> Cliffjumper missed his shot, and the Decepticons dispatched [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] to chase off the Autobot eavesdroppers. Hound got pasted by Laserbeak's laser blasts and ended up requiring extensive repair from Autobot medic [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] after being pulled out of a ditch by [[Load Hauler|Hauler]]. It worked out in the end, though, since Cliffjumper was remorseful for having acted without thinking, and Hound didn't hold a grudge anyway. {{Storylink|More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}<br /> <br /> Soon afterwards, Cliffjumper made a very public display of his paranoia by accusing fellow Autobot and reluctant soldier [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] of being a traitor on some very flimsy evidence, much to the (correct) disbelief of the other Autobots. He kept up his rhetoric even after Optimus Prime ordered him to can it. So determined was he to prove his theory true that he followed Mirage when the latter returned to the Decepticon power station to sow seeds of discontent within the Decepticon ranks. Fortunately, in the end it was proven that Mirage was a loyal Autobot all along, and Cliffjumper fell across Mirage's body, asking Ratchet to fix. This prompted a rather awkward laugh from the present Autobots. {{Storylink|Traitor}}<br /> <br /> While pursuing [[Nightbird]], the female robot ninja built to benefit mankind, Cliffjumper was the only Autobot unable to jump up the cliff after her. Ironic. {{Storylink|Enter the Nightbird}}<br /> <br /> ===Dreamwave Comics continuity===<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew onboard the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while clearing an asteroid in the path of Cybertron. <br /> <br /> He was one of many Transformers captured and reprogrammed by arms dealer [[Lazarus|Adam 'Lazarus' Rook]] for lease to terrorist organisations and shady governments requiring brutal military might. Fortunately, Autobots under the command of Optimus Prime repaired and re-reprogrammed Cliffjumper and the remaining captive Autobots. Immediately, they were put to work on fighting Megatron's metallic virus, which had spread deep into Canadian territory, using their own internal power as the anti-virus. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 5}}<br /> <br /> As Cliffjumper collapsed into the snow out of exhaustion, the Canadian military arrived. Unfortunately, due to the recent attacks by both enslaved Autobots and Decepticons under the command of Rook, the Canadians attempted to stop the Autobots doing what they percieved to be an attack on their soil. Knowing that the virus feed upon weapons fire, Cliffjumper tried to stop a tank crew from causing further harm by bending the tank's main gun. The commander panicked, thinking Cliffjumper was attacking and fired, destroying himself and seriously damaging the Autobot. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 6}}<br /> <br /> ===Marvel Books Big Looker Storybook continuity===<br /> <br /> [[Image:KidsCliff1.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Scary eyes and awesome car.]]<br /> <br /> In &quot;the Great Car Rally&quot;, a bunch of [[human]]s set up a race for charity. The victor would received a year's supply of oil and gasoline. Well, the Decepticons desperately wanted that bounty, so rather than just steal it, they decided to sneak into the race. Cliffjumper was one of the Autobots driving in the rally and was unaware that the scary black Cadillac was actually being driven by Megatron. Megatron dogged Cliffjumper for quite a while but ended up losing to the Minibot. Cliffjumper won the race and everybody smiled, even Optimus Prime.<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Generation 1===<br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Mini-Vehicle, 1984)<br /> : ''Japanese ID number:'' '''13'''<br /> <br /> : Cliffjumper was part of the initial series of 1984 Autobots. His mold was originally used to make a ''[[Microchange]]'' &quot;MC-04 #01 [[wikipedia:Porsche 924|Porsche 924 Turbo]]&quot;, a cutesified '[[wikipedia:Choro-Q|Penny Racer]]' style representation of the real car. In the original Japanese release, this figure was available in red, yellow, and blue. For the first series ''Transformers'' release, there were common instances of the yellow version of Cliffjumper and the red version of Bumblebee being sold at US retail. This lead to some confusion about the two characters, especially if the toys were found without their packaging.<br /> <br /> : Like the other first series [[Mini Vehicles|Minibots]], Cliffjumper was released in many different color schemes by the companies who licensed ''Transformers'' for South American countries.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/mini_frame.php?art=goldcliff Brazilian Gold Carrera (Cliffjumper) at TF-1.com]&lt;/ref&gt; &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/mini_frame.php?art=bluecliff Brazilian Blue Carrera (Cliffjumper) at TF-1.com]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : This mold was [[retool]]ed to make [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]]. He should not be confused with [[Bumper]], who was erroneously packaged on Cliffjumper cards.<br /> <br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Keychain Mini-Vehicle, 2001/2003/2007)<br /> : Released in the US by [[Fun4All]] at the same time as a 'keychain' Bumblebee, this was a slight [[remold]] of the first Cliffjumper toy which added a loop to the back bumper for a keychain attachment. In 2003, Takara released all four of the remolded 'keychain' Minibots (Cliffjumper, Bumblebee, [[Windcharger]], and [[Brawn]]) for the Japanese market in their original decos and in [[exclusive]] all-black coloration. Early in 2007, [[Hasbro]] re-released the 'keychain' Mini-Vehicles for the US under the ''&quot;[[Heroes of Cybertron]]&quot;'' sub-line.<br /> <br /> : This mold was [[redeco]]ed into [[Tap-Out]].<br /> <br /> *'''Decoy'''(1988)<br /> <br /> Part of the [[decoy]] line of transformers, what ya see is that ya get little soild red cliffjumper<br /> <br /> ===McDonalds===<br /> *'''Happy Meal Toy'''( 1984)<br /> <br /> One of the four toys given out during a 1984 promotion, came in four differnt colors Red, Yellow, Blue and Green. The toy was an statue in Robot Mode, only given out for a short time in St. Louis as a test run. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===Paridise Direct===<br /> *'''Statue'''( 2006)<br /> :''Cliffjumper is a red black and gray [[redeco]] of the previous [[bumblebee]] Statue released in a small amount of 250 as a paridise.com exclusive. What a surpise huh?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ===Classics===<br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Deluxe, 2006/2007)<br /> <br /> : ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' Cliffjumper is a red, gray and black [[redeco]] of the ''Classics'' Bumblebee toy, transforming into a small sports coupe of made-up model, and towing a small trailer with a non-removable jet-ski. This &quot;[[Wave Crusher]]&quot; trailer/jet-ski transforms into a flight-pack that clips onto Cliffjumper's back.<br /> <br /> ===Robot Heroes===<br /> <br /> [[Image:Robot_Hero_Cliffjumper.jpg|right|thumb|150px|He's so cute.]]<br /> *''Cliffjumper''' (Decepticon Sneak Attack Five Pack, 2007) Cliffjumper is a red, gray and black redeco of the &quot;Robot Heroes&quot; Bumblebee toy in the Wal-Mart exclusive &quot;Decepticon Sneak Attack&quot; five pack.<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> * [http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Cliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm Cliffjumper at TFU.info]<br /> <br /> * [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;char=Cliffjumper Cliffjumper's Universe profile at NTFA.net]<br /> <br /> <br /> {{stub}}<br /> [[Category: Autobots]]<br /> [[Category: Classics characters]]<br /> [[Category: Generation 1 characters]]<br /> [[Category: Mini Vehicles]]<br /> [[Category: Robot Heroes]]<br /> [[Category: Titanium Series]]&lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small&gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</div>

67.140.110.210 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Cliffjumper_(G1)&diff=42581 2007-07-09T22:26:27Z

<p>67.140.110.210: /* Generation 1 */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Template:Disambig3|Cliffjumper}}<br /> <br /> :''Cliffjumper is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.''<br /> <br /> [[Image:Cliffjumperg1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|He's got a piece of paper that he claims contains a list of 200 known traitors.]]<br /> <br /> '''Cliffjumper''' hates traitors. And anybody could be a traitor. Therefore, Cliffjumper hates everybody. It's unclear if he hates traitors more than he hates [[Decepticon]]s, but it's at least a neck-and-neck thing.<br /> <br /> He makes a habit of pulling ridiculously huge guns from [[Exhaust port|nowhere]] and attacking impulsively despite orders or sanity. Somehow, this gets him neither killed nor demoted.<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper's special weapon is his &quot;glass gas&quot;, which embrittles metals on contact so that they shatter like glass. He is not immune to its effects, so its use requires careful consideration of wind direction. Actually, this may explain why he prefers the big guns. He doesn't seem like the calculating type.<br /> <br /> <br /> :''Preliminary name:'' '''Blow-Out'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''South American name:'' '''Carrera'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''Japanese name:'' '''Cliff'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''Italian name:'' '''Grillo'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''French-Canadian name:'' '''Matamore'''/'''Rapido'''<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Marvel Comics continuity===<br /> [[Image:Cliffjumperuk.jpg|left|thumb|Don't ask, don't tell, don't laugh.]]<br /> <br /> ''(Note: Italicized text occurs exclusively in the UK comics.)''<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew on board the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while clearing an asteroid field in the path of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron.]] He was deactivated for a while during [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s occupation of the Ark, but was repaired without incident when [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] reclaimed it.<br /> <br /> However, the head of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] was still missing, and during an attempt to retrieve it, an impostor head took control of Prime's body, firing on Cliffjumper. ''Presumably repaired, he later participated in the Dinobot Hunt, along with [[Gears]] and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]]. Although they found [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]], immediately thereafter all three were captured by the Decepticons. They were rescued by [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]].''<br /> <br /> He was one of the observers to [[Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s battle on the [[moon]]. How he fared in the following [[Decepticon]] attack is unknown, but he's never seen again.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Animated continuity===<br /> '''Voice Actor:''' [[Casey Kasem]] (US), [[Takurō Kitagawa]] (Japan)<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew onboard the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago during a search for new energy sources. His [[alt mode]] was reformatted into an oddly proportioned Porsche 924 Turbo. <br /> <br /> When the Autobots awakened from their four million-year slumber, Cliffjumper was eager for action. He volunteered to tag along on [[Hound]]'s recon mission to scout out Decepticons because he was itching to &quot;boot some Decepticon right in his [[turbocharger]].&quot; Though [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s orders were only to find the Decepticons, Cliffjumper brashly tried to engage the enemy once Hound sniffed them out. <br /> <br /> Cliffjumper missed his shot, and the Decepticons dispatched [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] to chase off the Autobot eavesdroppers. Hound got pasted by Laserbeak's laser blasts and ended up requiring extensive repair from Autobot medic [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] after being pulled out of a ditch by [[Load Hauler|Hauler]]. It worked out in the end, though, since Cliffjumper was remorseful for having acted without thinking, and Hound didn't hold a grudge anyway. {{Storylink|More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}<br /> <br /> Soon afterwards, Cliffjumper made a very public display of his paranoia by accusing fellow Autobot and reluctant soldier [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] of being a traitor on some very flimsy evidence, much to the (correct) disbelief of the other Autobots. He kept up his rhetoric even after Optimus Prime ordered him to can it. So determined was he to prove his theory true that he followed Mirage when the latter returned to the Decepticon power station to sow seeds of discontent within the Decepticon ranks. Fortunately, in the end it was proven that Mirage was a loyal Autobot all along, and Cliffjumper fell across Mirage's body, asking Ratchet to fix. This prompted a rather awkward laugh from the present Autobots. {{Storylink|Traitor}}<br /> <br /> While pursuing [[Nightbird]], the female robot ninja built to benefit mankind, Cliffjumper was the only Autobot unable to jump up the cliff after her. Ironic. {{Storylink|Enter the Nightbird}}<br /> <br /> ===Dreamwave Comics continuity===<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew onboard the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while clearing an asteroid in the path of Cybertron. <br /> <br /> He was one of many Transformers captured and reprogrammed by arms dealer [[Lazarus|Adam 'Lazarus' Rook]] for lease to terrorist organisations and shady governments requiring brutal military might. Fortunately, Autobots under the command of Optimus Prime repaired and re-reprogrammed Cliffjumper and the remaining captive Autobots. Immediately, they were put to work on fighting Megatron's metallic virus, which had spread deep into Canadian territory, using their own internal power as the anti-virus. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 5}}<br /> <br /> As Cliffjumper collapsed into the snow out of exhaustion, the Canadian military arrived. Unfortunately, due to the recent attacks by both enslaved Autobots and Decepticons under the command of Rook, the Canadians attempted to stop the Autobots doing what they percieved to be an attack on their soil. Knowing that the virus feed upon weapons fire, Cliffjumper tried to stop a tank crew from causing further harm by bending the tank's main gun. The commander panicked, thinking Cliffjumper was attacking and fired, destroying himself and seriously damaging the Autobot. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 6}}<br /> <br /> ===Marvel Books Big Looker Storybook continuity===<br /> <br /> [[Image:KidsCliff1.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Scary eyes and awesome car.]]<br /> <br /> In &quot;the Great Car Rally&quot;, a bunch of [[human]]s set up a race for charity. The victor would received a year's supply of oil and gasoline. Well, the Decepticons desperately wanted that bounty, so rather than just steal it, they decided to sneak into the race. Cliffjumper was one of the Autobots driving in the rally and was unaware that the scary black Cadillac was actually being driven by Megatron. Megatron dogged Cliffjumper for quite a while but ended up losing to the Minibot. Cliffjumper won the race and everybody smiled, even Optimus Prime.<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Generation 1===<br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Mini-Vehicle, 1984)<br /> : ''Japanese ID number:'' '''13'''<br /> <br /> : Cliffjumper was part of the initial series of 1984 Autobots. His mold was originally used to make a ''[[Microchange]]'' &quot;MC-04 #01 [[wikipedia:Porsche 924|Porsche 924 Turbo]]&quot;, a cutesified '[[wikipedia:Choro-Q|Penny Racer]]' style representation of the real car. In the original Japanese release, this figure was available in red, yellow, and blue. For the first series ''Transformers'' release, there were common instances of the yellow version of Cliffjumper and the red version of Bumblebee being sold at US retail. This lead to some confusion about the two characters, especially if the toys were found without their packaging.<br /> <br /> : Like the other first series [[Mini Vehicles|Minibots]], Cliffjumper was released in many different color schemes by the companies who licensed ''Transformers'' for South American countries.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/mini_frame.php?art=goldcliff Brazilian Gold Carrera (Cliffjumper) at TF-1.com]&lt;/ref&gt; &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/mini_frame.php?art=bluecliff Brazilian Blue Carrera (Cliffjumper) at TF-1.com]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : This mold was [[retool]]ed to make [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]]. He should not be confused with [[Bumper]], who was erroneously packaged on Cliffjumper cards.<br /> <br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Keychain Mini-Vehicle, 2001/2003/2007)<br /> : Released in the US by [[Fun4All]] at the same time as a 'keychain' Bumblebee, this was a slight [[remold]] of the first Cliffjumper toy which added a loop to the back bumper for a keychain attachment. In 2003, Takara released all four of the remolded 'keychain' Minibots (Cliffjumper, Bumblebee, [[Windcharger]], and [[Brawn]]) for the Japanese market in their original decos and in [[exclusive]] all-black coloration. Early in 2007, [[Hasbro]] re-released the 'keychain' Mini-Vehicles for the US under the ''&quot;[[Heroes of Cybertron]]&quot;'' sub-line.<br /> <br /> : This mold was [[redeco]]ed into [[Tap-Out]].<br /> <br /> *'''Decoy'''(1988)<br /> <br /> Part of the [[decoys]] line of transformers, what ya see is that ya get little soild red cliffjumper<br /> <br /> ===McDonalds===<br /> *'''Happy Meal Toy'''( 1984)<br /> <br /> One of the four toys given out during a 1984 promotion, came in four differnt colors Red, Yellow, Blue and Green. The toy was an statue in Robot Mode, only given out for a short time in St. Louis as a test run. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===Paridise Direct===<br /> *'''Statue'''( 2006)<br /> :''Cliffjumper is a red black and gray [[redeco]] of the previous [[bumblebee]] Statue released in a small amount of 250 as a paridise.com exclusive. What a surpise huh?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ===Classics===<br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Deluxe, 2006/2007)<br /> <br /> : ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' Cliffjumper is a red, gray and black [[redeco]] of the ''Classics'' Bumblebee toy, transforming into a small sports coupe of made-up model, and towing a small trailer with a non-removable jet-ski. This &quot;[[Wave Crusher]]&quot; trailer/jet-ski transforms into a flight-pack that clips onto Cliffjumper's back.<br /> <br /> ===Robot Heroes===<br /> <br /> [[Image:Robot_Hero_Cliffjumper.jpg|right|thumb|150px|He's so cute.]]<br /> *''Cliffjumper''' (Decepticon Sneak Attack Five Pack, 2007) Cliffjumper is a red, gray and black redeco of the &quot;Robot Heroes&quot; Bumblebee toy in the Wal-Mart exclusive &quot;Decepticon Sneak Attack&quot; five pack.<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> * [http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Cliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm Cliffjumper at TFU.info]<br /> <br /> * [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;char=Cliffjumper Cliffjumper's Universe profile at NTFA.net]<br /> <br /> <br /> {{stub}}<br /> [[Category: Autobots]]<br /> [[Category: Classics characters]]<br /> [[Category: Generation 1 characters]]<br /> [[Category: Mini Vehicles]]<br /> [[Category: Robot Heroes]]<br /> [[Category: Titanium Series]]&lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small&gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</div>

67.140.110.210 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Cliffjumper_(G1)&diff=42580 2007-07-09T13:45:03Z

<p>67.140.110.210: /* Classics */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Template:Disambig3|Cliffjumper}}<br /> <br /> :''Cliffjumper is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.''<br /> <br /> [[Image:Cliffjumperg1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|He's got a piece of paper that he claims contains a list of 200 known traitors.]]<br /> <br /> '''Cliffjumper''' hates traitors. And anybody could be a traitor. Therefore, Cliffjumper hates everybody. It's unclear if he hates traitors more than he hates [[Decepticon]]s, but it's at least a neck-and-neck thing.<br /> <br /> He makes a habit of pulling ridiculously huge guns from [[Exhaust port|nowhere]] and attacking impulsively despite orders or sanity. Somehow, this gets him neither killed nor demoted.<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper's special weapon is his &quot;glass gas&quot;, which embrittles metals on contact so that they shatter like glass. He is not immune to its effects, so its use requires careful consideration of wind direction. Actually, this may explain why he prefers the big guns. He doesn't seem like the calculating type.<br /> <br /> <br /> :''Preliminary name:'' '''Blow-Out'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''South American name:'' '''Carrera'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''Japanese name:'' '''Cliff'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''Italian name:'' '''Grillo'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''French-Canadian name:'' '''Matamore'''/'''Rapido'''<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Marvel Comics continuity===<br /> [[Image:Cliffjumperuk.jpg|left|thumb|Don't ask, don't tell, don't laugh.]]<br /> <br /> ''(Note: Italicized text occurs exclusively in the UK comics.)''<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew on board the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while clearing an asteroid field in the path of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron.]] He was deactivated for a while during [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s occupation of the Ark, but was repaired without incident when [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] reclaimed it.<br /> <br /> However, the head of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] was still missing, and during an attempt to retrieve it, an impostor head took control of Prime's body, firing on Cliffjumper. ''Presumably repaired, he later participated in the Dinobot Hunt, along with [[Gears]] and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]]. Although they found [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]], immediately thereafter all three were captured by the Decepticons. They were rescued by [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]].''<br /> <br /> He was one of the observers to [[Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s battle on the [[moon]]. How he fared in the following [[Decepticon]] attack is unknown, but he's never seen again.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Animated continuity===<br /> '''Voice Actor:''' [[Casey Kasem]] (US), [[Takurō Kitagawa]] (Japan)<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew onboard the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago during a search for new energy sources. His [[alt mode]] was reformatted into an oddly proportioned Porsche 924 Turbo. <br /> <br /> When the Autobots awakened from their four million-year slumber, Cliffjumper was eager for action. He volunteered to tag along on [[Hound]]'s recon mission to scout out Decepticons because he was itching to &quot;boot some Decepticon right in his [[turbocharger]].&quot; Though [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s orders were only to find the Decepticons, Cliffjumper brashly tried to engage the enemy once Hound sniffed them out. <br /> <br /> Cliffjumper missed his shot, and the Decepticons dispatched [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] to chase off the Autobot eavesdroppers. Hound got pasted by Laserbeak's laser blasts and ended up requiring extensive repair from Autobot medic [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] after being pulled out of a ditch by [[Load Hauler|Hauler]]. It worked out in the end, though, since Cliffjumper was remorseful for having acted without thinking, and Hound didn't hold a grudge anyway. {{Storylink|More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}<br /> <br /> Soon afterwards, Cliffjumper made a very public display of his paranoia by accusing fellow Autobot and reluctant soldier [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] of being a traitor on some very flimsy evidence, much to the (correct) disbelief of the other Autobots. He kept up his rhetoric even after Optimus Prime ordered him to can it. So determined was he to prove his theory true that he followed Mirage when the latter returned to the Decepticon power station to sow seeds of discontent within the Decepticon ranks. Fortunately, in the end it was proven that Mirage was a loyal Autobot all along, and Cliffjumper fell across Mirage's body, asking Ratchet to fix. This prompted a rather awkward laugh from the present Autobots. {{Storylink|Traitor}}<br /> <br /> While pursuing [[Nightbird]], the female robot ninja built to benefit mankind, Cliffjumper was the only Autobot unable to jump up the cliff after her. Ironic. {{Storylink|Enter the Nightbird}}<br /> <br /> ===Dreamwave Comics continuity===<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew onboard the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while clearing an asteroid in the path of Cybertron. <br /> <br /> He was one of many Transformers captured and reprogrammed by arms dealer [[Lazarus|Adam 'Lazarus' Rook]] for lease to terrorist organisations and shady governments requiring brutal military might. Fortunately, Autobots under the command of Optimus Prime repaired and re-reprogrammed Cliffjumper and the remaining captive Autobots. Immediately, they were put to work on fighting Megatron's metallic virus, which had spread deep into Canadian territory, using their own internal power as the anti-virus. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 5}}<br /> <br /> As Cliffjumper collapsed into the snow out of exhaustion, the Canadian military arrived. Unfortunately, due to the recent attacks by both enslaved Autobots and Decepticons under the command of Rook, the Canadians attempted to stop the Autobots doing what they percieved to be an attack on their soil. Knowing that the virus feed upon weapons fire, Cliffjumper tried to stop a tank crew from causing further harm by bending the tank's main gun. The commander panicked, thinking Cliffjumper was attacking and fired, destroying himself and seriously damaging the Autobot. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 6}}<br /> <br /> ===Marvel Books Big Looker Storybook continuity===<br /> <br /> [[Image:KidsCliff1.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Scary eyes and awesome car.]]<br /> <br /> In &quot;the Great Car Rally&quot;, a bunch of [[human]]s set up a race for charity. The victor would received a year's supply of oil and gasoline. Well, the Decepticons desperately wanted that bounty, so rather than just steal it, they decided to sneak into the race. Cliffjumper was one of the Autobots driving in the rally and was unaware that the scary black Cadillac was actually being driven by Megatron. Megatron dogged Cliffjumper for quite a while but ended up losing to the Minibot. Cliffjumper won the race and everybody smiled, even Optimus Prime.<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Generation 1===<br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Mini-Vehicle, 1984)<br /> : ''Japanese ID number:'' '''13'''<br /> <br /> : Cliffjumper was part of the initial series of 1984 Autobots. His mold was originally used to make a ''[[Microchange]]'' &quot;MC-04 #01 [[wikipedia:Porsche 924|Porsche 924 Turbo]]&quot;, a cutesified '[[wikipedia:Choro-Q|Penny Racer]]' style representation of the real car. In the original Japanese release, this figure was available in red, yellow, and blue. For the first series ''Transformers'' release, there were common instances of the yellow version of Cliffjumper and the red version of Bumblebee being sold at US retail. This lead to some confusion about the two characters, especially if the toys were found without their packaging.<br /> <br /> : Like the other first series [[Mini Vehicles|Minibots]], Cliffjumper was released in many different color schemes by the companies who licensed ''Transformers'' for South American countries.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/mini_frame.php?art=goldcliff Brazilian Gold Carrera (Cliffjumper) at TF-1.com]&lt;/ref&gt; &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/mini_frame.php?art=bluecliff Brazilian Blue Carrera (Cliffjumper) at TF-1.com]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : This mold was [[retool]]ed to make [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]]. He should not be confused with [[Bumper]], who was erroneously packaged on Cliffjumper cards.<br /> <br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Keychain Mini-Vehicle, 2001/2003/2007)<br /> : Released in the US by [[Fun4All]] at the same time as a 'keychain' Bumblebee, this was a slight [[remold]] of the first Cliffjumper toy which added a loop to the back bumper for a keychain attachment. In 2003, Takara released all four of the remolded 'keychain' Minibots (Cliffjumper, Bumblebee, [[Windcharger]], and [[Brawn]]) for the Japanese market in their original decos and in [[exclusive]] all-black coloration. Early in 2007, [[Hasbro]] re-released the 'keychain' Mini-Vehicles for the US under the ''&quot;[[Heroes of Cybertron]]&quot;'' sub-line.<br /> <br /> : This mold was [[redeco]]ed into [[Tap-Out]].<br /> <br /> ===McDonalds===<br /> *'''Happy Meal Toy'''( 1984)<br /> <br /> One of the four toys given out during a 1984 promotion, came in four differnt colors Red, Yellow, Blue and Green. The toy was an statue in Robot Mode, only given out for a short time in St. Louis as a test run. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===Paridise Direct===<br /> *'''Statue'''( 2006)<br /> :''Cliffjumper is a red black and gray [[redeco]] of the previous [[bumblebee]] Statue released in a small amount of 250 as a paridise.com exclusive. What a surpise huh?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ===Classics===<br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Deluxe, 2006/2007)<br /> <br /> : ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' Cliffjumper is a red, gray and black [[redeco]] of the ''Classics'' Bumblebee toy, transforming into a small sports coupe of made-up model, and towing a small trailer with a non-removable jet-ski. This &quot;[[Wave Crusher]]&quot; trailer/jet-ski transforms into a flight-pack that clips onto Cliffjumper's back.<br /> <br /> ===Robot Heroes===<br /> <br /> [[Image:Robot_Hero_Cliffjumper.jpg|right|thumb|150px|He's so cute.]]<br /> *''Cliffjumper''' (Decepticon Sneak Attack Five Pack, 2007) Cliffjumper is a red, gray and black redeco of the &quot;Robot Heroes&quot; Bumblebee toy in the Wal-Mart exclusive &quot;Decepticon Sneak Attack&quot; five pack.<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> * [http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Cliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm Cliffjumper at TFU.info]<br /> <br /> * [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;char=Cliffjumper Cliffjumper's Universe profile at NTFA.net]<br /> <br /> <br /> {{stub}}<br /> [[Category: Autobots]]<br /> [[Category: Classics characters]]<br /> [[Category: Generation 1 characters]]<br /> [[Category: Mini Vehicles]]<br /> [[Category: Robot Heroes]]<br /> [[Category: Titanium Series]]&lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small&gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</div>

67.140.110.210 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Cliffjumper_(G1)&diff=42579 2007-07-09T13:38:26Z

<p>67.140.110.210: /* Classics */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Template:Disambig3|Cliffjumper}}<br /> <br /> :''Cliffjumper is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.''<br /> <br /> [[Image:Cliffjumperg1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|He's got a piece of paper that he claims contains a list of 200 known traitors.]]<br /> <br /> '''Cliffjumper''' hates traitors. And anybody could be a traitor. Therefore, Cliffjumper hates everybody. It's unclear if he hates traitors more than he hates [[Decepticon]]s, but it's at least a neck-and-neck thing.<br /> <br /> He makes a habit of pulling ridiculously huge guns from [[Exhaust port|nowhere]] and attacking impulsively despite orders or sanity. Somehow, this gets him neither killed nor demoted.<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper's special weapon is his &quot;glass gas&quot;, which embrittles metals on contact so that they shatter like glass. He is not immune to its effects, so its use requires careful consideration of wind direction. Actually, this may explain why he prefers the big guns. He doesn't seem like the calculating type.<br /> <br /> <br /> :''Preliminary name:'' '''Blow-Out'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''South American name:'' '''Carrera'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''Japanese name:'' '''Cliff'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''Italian name:'' '''Grillo'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''French-Canadian name:'' '''Matamore'''/'''Rapido'''<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Marvel Comics continuity===<br /> [[Image:Cliffjumperuk.jpg|left|thumb|Don't ask, don't tell, don't laugh.]]<br /> <br /> ''(Note: Italicized text occurs exclusively in the UK comics.)''<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew on board the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while clearing an asteroid field in the path of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron.]] He was deactivated for a while during [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s occupation of the Ark, but was repaired without incident when [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] reclaimed it.<br /> <br /> However, the head of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] was still missing, and during an attempt to retrieve it, an impostor head took control of Prime's body, firing on Cliffjumper. ''Presumably repaired, he later participated in the Dinobot Hunt, along with [[Gears]] and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]]. Although they found [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]], immediately thereafter all three were captured by the Decepticons. They were rescued by [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]].''<br /> <br /> He was one of the observers to [[Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s battle on the [[moon]]. How he fared in the following [[Decepticon]] attack is unknown, but he's never seen again.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Animated continuity===<br /> '''Voice Actor:''' [[Casey Kasem]] (US), [[Takurō Kitagawa]] (Japan)<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew onboard the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago during a search for new energy sources. His [[alt mode]] was reformatted into an oddly proportioned Porsche 924 Turbo. <br /> <br /> When the Autobots awakened from their four million-year slumber, Cliffjumper was eager for action. He volunteered to tag along on [[Hound]]'s recon mission to scout out Decepticons because he was itching to &quot;boot some Decepticon right in his [[turbocharger]].&quot; Though [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s orders were only to find the Decepticons, Cliffjumper brashly tried to engage the enemy once Hound sniffed them out. <br /> <br /> Cliffjumper missed his shot, and the Decepticons dispatched [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] to chase off the Autobot eavesdroppers. Hound got pasted by Laserbeak's laser blasts and ended up requiring extensive repair from Autobot medic [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] after being pulled out of a ditch by [[Load Hauler|Hauler]]. It worked out in the end, though, since Cliffjumper was remorseful for having acted without thinking, and Hound didn't hold a grudge anyway. {{Storylink|More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}<br /> <br /> Soon afterwards, Cliffjumper made a very public display of his paranoia by accusing fellow Autobot and reluctant soldier [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] of being a traitor on some very flimsy evidence, much to the (correct) disbelief of the other Autobots. He kept up his rhetoric even after Optimus Prime ordered him to can it. So determined was he to prove his theory true that he followed Mirage when the latter returned to the Decepticon power station to sow seeds of discontent within the Decepticon ranks. Fortunately, in the end it was proven that Mirage was a loyal Autobot all along, and Cliffjumper fell across Mirage's body, asking Ratchet to fix. This prompted a rather awkward laugh from the present Autobots. {{Storylink|Traitor}}<br /> <br /> While pursuing [[Nightbird]], the female robot ninja built to benefit mankind, Cliffjumper was the only Autobot unable to jump up the cliff after her. Ironic. {{Storylink|Enter the Nightbird}}<br /> <br /> ===Dreamwave Comics continuity===<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew onboard the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while clearing an asteroid in the path of Cybertron. <br /> <br /> He was one of many Transformers captured and reprogrammed by arms dealer [[Lazarus|Adam 'Lazarus' Rook]] for lease to terrorist organisations and shady governments requiring brutal military might. Fortunately, Autobots under the command of Optimus Prime repaired and re-reprogrammed Cliffjumper and the remaining captive Autobots. Immediately, they were put to work on fighting Megatron's metallic virus, which had spread deep into Canadian territory, using their own internal power as the anti-virus. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 5}}<br /> <br /> As Cliffjumper collapsed into the snow out of exhaustion, the Canadian military arrived. Unfortunately, due to the recent attacks by both enslaved Autobots and Decepticons under the command of Rook, the Canadians attempted to stop the Autobots doing what they percieved to be an attack on their soil. Knowing that the virus feed upon weapons fire, Cliffjumper tried to stop a tank crew from causing further harm by bending the tank's main gun. The commander panicked, thinking Cliffjumper was attacking and fired, destroying himself and seriously damaging the Autobot. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 6}}<br /> <br /> ===Marvel Books Big Looker Storybook continuity===<br /> <br /> [[Image:KidsCliff1.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Scary eyes and awesome car.]]<br /> <br /> In &quot;the Great Car Rally&quot;, a bunch of [[human]]s set up a race for charity. The victor would received a year's supply of oil and gasoline. Well, the Decepticons desperately wanted that bounty, so rather than just steal it, they decided to sneak into the race. Cliffjumper was one of the Autobots driving in the rally and was unaware that the scary black Cadillac was actually being driven by Megatron. Megatron dogged Cliffjumper for quite a while but ended up losing to the Minibot. Cliffjumper won the race and everybody smiled, even Optimus Prime.<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Generation 1===<br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Mini-Vehicle, 1984)<br /> : ''Japanese ID number:'' '''13'''<br /> <br /> : Cliffjumper was part of the initial series of 1984 Autobots. His mold was originally used to make a ''[[Microchange]]'' &quot;MC-04 #01 [[wikipedia:Porsche 924|Porsche 924 Turbo]]&quot;, a cutesified '[[wikipedia:Choro-Q|Penny Racer]]' style representation of the real car. In the original Japanese release, this figure was available in red, yellow, and blue. For the first series ''Transformers'' release, there were common instances of the yellow version of Cliffjumper and the red version of Bumblebee being sold at US retail. This lead to some confusion about the two characters, especially if the toys were found without their packaging.<br /> <br /> : Like the other first series [[Mini Vehicles|Minibots]], Cliffjumper was released in many different color schemes by the companies who licensed ''Transformers'' for South American countries.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/mini_frame.php?art=goldcliff Brazilian Gold Carrera (Cliffjumper) at TF-1.com]&lt;/ref&gt; &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/mini_frame.php?art=bluecliff Brazilian Blue Carrera (Cliffjumper) at TF-1.com]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : This mold was [[retool]]ed to make [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]]. He should not be confused with [[Bumper]], who was erroneously packaged on Cliffjumper cards.<br /> <br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Keychain Mini-Vehicle, 2001/2003/2007)<br /> : Released in the US by [[Fun4All]] at the same time as a 'keychain' Bumblebee, this was a slight [[remold]] of the first Cliffjumper toy which added a loop to the back bumper for a keychain attachment. In 2003, Takara released all four of the remolded 'keychain' Minibots (Cliffjumper, Bumblebee, [[Windcharger]], and [[Brawn]]) for the Japanese market in their original decos and in [[exclusive]] all-black coloration. Early in 2007, [[Hasbro]] re-released the 'keychain' Mini-Vehicles for the US under the ''&quot;[[Heroes of Cybertron]]&quot;'' sub-line.<br /> <br /> : This mold was [[redeco]]ed into [[Tap-Out]].<br /> <br /> ===McDonalds===<br /> *'''Happy Meal Toy'''( 1984)<br /> <br /> One of the four toys given out during a 1984 promotion, came in four differnt colors Red, Yellow, Blue and Green. The toy was an statue in Robot Mode, only given out for a short time in St. Louis as a test run. <br /> <br /> <br /> ===Classics===<br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Deluxe, 2006/2007)<br /> <br /> : ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' Cliffjumper is a red, gray and black [[redeco]] of the ''Classics'' Bumblebee toy, transforming into a small sports coupe of made-up model, and towing a small trailer with a non-removable jet-ski. This &quot;[[Wave Crusher]]&quot; trailer/jet-ski transforms into a flight-pack that clips onto Cliffjumper's back.<br /> <br /> ===Robot Heroes===<br /> <br /> [[Image:Robot_Hero_Cliffjumper.jpg|right|thumb|150px|He's so cute.]]<br /> *''Cliffjumper''' (Decepticon Sneak Attack Five Pack, 2007) Cliffjumper is a red, gray and black redeco of the &quot;Robot Heroes&quot; Bumblebee toy in the Wal-Mart exclusive &quot;Decepticon Sneak Attack&quot; five pack.<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> * [http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Cliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm Cliffjumper at TFU.info]<br /> <br /> * [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;char=Cliffjumper Cliffjumper's Universe profile at NTFA.net]<br /> <br /> <br /> {{stub}}<br /> [[Category: Autobots]]<br /> [[Category: Classics characters]]<br /> [[Category: Generation 1 characters]]<br /> [[Category: Mini Vehicles]]<br /> [[Category: Robot Heroes]]<br /> [[Category: Titanium Series]]&lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small&gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</div>

67.140.110.210 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Cliffjumper_(G1)&diff=42577 2007-07-06T13:49:38Z

<p>67.140.110.210: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Template:Disambig3|Cliffjumper}}<br /> <br /> :''Cliffjumper is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.''<br /> <br /> [[Image:Cliffjumperg1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|not only is He is president of the redeco club, he is also a member.Ultra Magnus is the vice-president!]]<br /> <br /> '''Cliffjumper''' hates traitors. And anybody could be a traitor. Therefore, Cliffjumper hates everybody. It's unclear if he hates traitors more than he hates [[Decepticon]]s, but it's at least a neck-and-neck thing.<br /> <br /> He makes a habit of pulling ridiculously huge guns from [[Exhaust port|nowhere]] and attacking impulsively despite orders or sanity. Somehow, this gets him neither killed nor demoted.<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper's special weapon is his &quot;glass gas&quot;, which embrittles metals on contact so that they shatter like glass. He is not immune to its effects, so its use requires careful consideration of wind direction. Actually, this may explain why he prefers the big guns. He doesn't seem like the calculating type.<br /> <br /> <br /> :''Preliminary name:'' '''Blow-Out'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''South American name:'' '''Carrera'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''Japanese name:'' '''Cliff'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''Italian name:'' '''Grillo'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''French-Canadian name:'' '''Matamore'''/'''Rapido'''<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Marvel Comics continuity===<br /> [[Image:Cliffjumperuk.jpg|left|thumb|Don't ask, don't tell, don't laugh.]]<br /> <br /> ''(Note: Italicized text occurs exclusively in the UK comics.)''<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew on board the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while clearing an asteroid field in the path of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron.]] He was deactivated for a while during [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s occupation of the Ark, but was repaired without incident when [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] reclaimed it.<br /> <br /> However, the head of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] was still missing, and during an attempt to retrieve it, an impostor head took control of Prime's body, firing on Cliffjumper. ''Presumably repaired, he later participated in the Dinobot Hunt, along with [[Gears]] and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]]. Although they found [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]], immediately thereafter all three were captured by the Decepticons. They were rescued by [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]].''<br /> <br /> He was one of the observers to [[Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s battle on the [[moon]]. How he fared in the following [[Decepticon]] attack is unknown, but he's never seen again.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Animated continuity===<br /> '''Voice Actor:''' [[Casey Kasem]] (US), [[Takurō Kitagawa]] (Japan)<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew onboard the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago during a search for new energy sources. His [[alt mode]] was reformatted into an oddly proportioned Porsche 924 Turbo. <br /> <br /> When the Autobots awakened from their four million-year slumber, Cliffjumper was eager for action. He volunteered to tag along on [[Hound]]'s recon mission to scout out Decepticons because he was itching to &quot;boot some Decepticon right in his [[turbocharger]].&quot; Though [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s orders were only to find the Decepticons, Cliffjumper brashly tried to engage the enemy once Hound sniffed them out. <br /> <br /> Cliffjumper missed his shot, and the Decepticons dispatched [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] to chase off the Autobot eavesdroppers. Hound got pasted by Laserbeak's laser blasts and ended up requiring extensive repair from Autobot medic [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] after being pulled out of a ditch by [[Load Hauler|Hauler]]. It worked out in the end, though, since Cliffjumper was remorseful for having acted without thinking, and Hound didn't hold a grudge anyway. {{Storylink|More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}<br /> <br /> Soon afterwards, Cliffjumper made a very public display of his paranoia by accusing fellow Autobot and reluctant soldier [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] of being a traitor on some very flimsy evidence, much to the (correct) disbelief of the other Autobots. He kept up his rhetoric even after Optimus Prime ordered him to can it. So determined was he to prove his theory true that he followed Mirage when the latter returned to the Decepticon power station to sow seeds of discontent within the Decepticon ranks. Fortunately, in the end it was proven that Mirage was a loyal Autobot all along, and Cliffjumper fell across Mirage's body, asking Ratchet to fix. This prompted a rather awkward laugh from the present Autobots. {{Storylink|Traitor}}<br /> <br /> While pursuing [[Nightbird]], the female robot ninja built to benefit mankind, Cliffjumper was the only Autobot unable to jump up the cliff after her. Ironic. {{Storylink|Enter the Nightbird}}<br /> <br /> ===Dreamwave Comics continuity===<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew onboard the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while clearing an asteroid in the path of Cybertron. <br /> <br /> He was one of many Transformers captured and reprogrammed by arms dealer [[Lazarus|Adam 'Lazarus' Rook]] for lease to terrorist organisations and shady governments requiring brutal military might. Fortunately, Autobots under the command of Optimus Prime repaired and re-reprogrammed Cliffjumper and the remaining captive Autobots. Immediately, they were put to work on fighting Megatron's metallic virus, which had spread deep into Canadian territory, using their own internal power as the anti-virus. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 5}}<br /> <br /> As Cliffjumper collapsed into the snow out of exhaustion, the Canadian military arrived. Unfortunately, due to the recent attacks by both enslaved Autobots and Decepticons under the command of Rook, the Canadians attempted to stop the Autobots doing what they percieved to be an attack on their soil. Knowing that the virus feed upon weapons fire, Cliffjumper tried to stop a tank crew from causing further harm by bending the tank's main gun. The commander panicked, thinking Cliffjumper was attacking and fired, destroying himself and seriously damaging the Autobot. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 6}}<br /> <br /> ===Marvel Books Big Looker Storybook continuity===<br /> <br /> [[Image:KidsCliff1.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Scary eyes and awesome car.]]<br /> <br /> In &quot;the Great Car Rally&quot;, a bunch of [[human]]s set up a race for charity. The victor would received a year's supply of oil and gasoline. Well, the Decepticons desperately wanted that bounty, so rather than just steal it, they decided to sneak into the race. Cliffjumper was one of the Autobots driving in the rally and was unaware that the scary black Cadillac was actually being driven by Megatron. Megatron dogged Cliffjumper for quite a while but ended up losing to the Minibot. Cliffjumper won the race and everybody smiled, even Optimus Prime.<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Generation 1===<br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Mini-Vehicle, 1984)<br /> : ''Japanese ID number:'' '''13'''<br /> <br /> : Cliffjumper was part of the initial series of 1984 Autobots. His mold was originally used to make a ''[[Microchange]]'' &quot;MC-04 #01 [[wikipedia:Porsche 924|Porsche 924 Turbo]]&quot;, a cutesified '[[wikipedia:Choro-Q|Penny Racer]]' style representation of the real car. In the original Japanese release, this figure was available in red, yellow, and blue. For the first series ''Transformers'' release, there were common instances of the yellow version of Cliffjumper and the red version of Bumblebee being sold at US retail. This lead to some confusion about the two characters, especially if the toys were found without their packaging.<br /> <br /> : Like the other first series [[Mini Vehicles|Minibots]], Cliffjumper was released in many different color schemes by the companies who licensed ''Transformers'' for South American countries.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/mini_frame.php?art=goldcliff Brazilian Gold Carrera (Cliffjumper) at TF-1.com]&lt;/ref&gt; &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/mini_frame.php?art=bluecliff Brazilian Blue Carrera (Cliffjumper) at TF-1.com]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : This mold was [[retool]]ed to make [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]]. He should not be confused with [[Bumper]], who was erroneously packaged on Cliffjumper cards.<br /> <br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Keychain Mini-Vehicle, 2001/2003/2007)<br /> : Released in the US by [[Fun4All]] at the same time as a 'keychain' Bumblebee, this was a slight [[remold]] of the first Cliffjumper toy which added a loop to the back bumper for a keychain attachment. In 2003, Takara released all four of the remolded 'keychain' Minibots (Cliffjumper, Bumblebee, [[Windcharger]], and [[Brawn]]) for the Japanese market in their original decos and in [[exclusive]] all-black coloration. Early in 2007, [[Hasbro]] re-released the 'keychain' Mini-Vehicles for the US under the ''&quot;[[Heroes of Cybertron]]&quot;'' sub-line.<br /> <br /> : This mold was [[redeco]]ed into [[Tap-Out]].<br /> <br /> ===Classics===<br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Deluxe, 2006/2007)<br /> <br /> : ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' Cliffjumper is a red, gray and black [[redeco]] of the ''Classics'' Bumblebee toy, transforming into a small sports coupe of made-up model, and towing a small trailer with a non-removable jet-ski. This &quot;[[Wave Crusher]]&quot; trailer/jet-ski transforms into a flight-pack that clips onto Cliffjumper's back.<br /> <br /> ===Robot Heroes===<br /> <br /> [[Image:Robot_Hero_Cliffjumper.jpg|right|thumb|150px|He's so cute.]]<br /> *''Cliffjumper''' (Decepticon Sneak Attack Five Pack, 2007) Cliffjumper is a red, gray and black redeco of the &quot;Robot Heroes&quot; Bumblebee toy in the Wal-Mart exclusive &quot;Decepticon Sneak Attack&quot; five pack.<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> * [http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Cliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm Cliffjumper at TFU.info]<br /> <br /> * [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;char=Cliffjumper Cliffjumper's Universe profile at NTFA.net]<br /> <br /> <br /> {{stub}}<br /> [[Category: Autobots]]<br /> [[Category: Classics characters]]<br /> [[Category: Generation 1 characters]]<br /> [[Category: Mini Vehicles]]<br /> [[Category: Robot Heroes]]<br /> [[Category: Titanium Series]]&lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small&gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</div>

67.140.110.210 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Cliffjumper_(G1)&diff=42576 2007-07-06T13:47:23Z

<p>67.140.110.210: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Template:Disambig3|Cliffjumper}}<br /> <br /> :''Cliffjumper is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.''<br /> <br /> [[Image:Cliffjumperg1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|not only is He is president of the redeco club, he is also a member.(Ultra Magnus is the vice-president!) <br /> <br /> '''Cliffjumper''' hates traitors. And anybody could be a traitor. Therefore, Cliffjumper hates everybody. It's unclear if he hates traitors more than he hates [[Decepticon]]s, but it's at least a neck-and-neck thing.<br /> <br /> He makes a habit of pulling ridiculously huge guns from [[Exhaust port|nowhere]] and attacking impulsively despite orders or sanity. Somehow, this gets him neither killed nor demoted.<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper's special weapon is his &quot;glass gas&quot;, which embrittles metals on contact so that they shatter like glass. He is not immune to its effects, so its use requires careful consideration of wind direction. Actually, this may explain why he prefers the big guns. He doesn't seem like the calculating type.<br /> <br /> <br /> :''Preliminary name:'' '''Blow-Out'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''South American name:'' '''Carrera'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''Japanese name:'' '''Cliff'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''Italian name:'' '''Grillo'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''French-Canadian name:'' '''Matamore'''/'''Rapido'''<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Marvel Comics continuity===<br /> [[Image:Cliffjumperuk.jpg|left|thumb|Don't ask, don't tell, don't laugh.]]<br /> <br /> ''(Note: Italicized text occurs exclusively in the UK comics.)''<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew on board the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while clearing an asteroid field in the path of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron.]] He was deactivated for a while during [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s occupation of the Ark, but was repaired without incident when [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] reclaimed it.<br /> <br /> However, the head of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] was still missing, and during an attempt to retrieve it, an impostor head took control of Prime's body, firing on Cliffjumper. ''Presumably repaired, he later participated in the Dinobot Hunt, along with [[Gears]] and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]]. Although they found [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]], immediately thereafter all three were captured by the Decepticons. They were rescued by [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]].''<br /> <br /> He was one of the observers to [[Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s battle on the [[moon]]. How he fared in the following [[Decepticon]] attack is unknown, but he's never seen again.<br /> <br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Animated continuity===<br /> '''Voice Actor:''' [[Casey Kasem]] (US), [[Takurō Kitagawa]] (Japan)<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew onboard the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago during a search for new energy sources. His [[alt mode]] was reformatted into an oddly proportioned Porsche 924 Turbo. <br /> <br /> When the Autobots awakened from their four million-year slumber, Cliffjumper was eager for action. He volunteered to tag along on [[Hound]]'s recon mission to scout out Decepticons because he was itching to &quot;boot some Decepticon right in his [[turbocharger]].&quot; Though [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s orders were only to find the Decepticons, Cliffjumper brashly tried to engage the enemy once Hound sniffed them out. <br /> <br /> Cliffjumper missed his shot, and the Decepticons dispatched [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] to chase off the Autobot eavesdroppers. Hound got pasted by Laserbeak's laser blasts and ended up requiring extensive repair from Autobot medic [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] after being pulled out of a ditch by [[Load Hauler|Hauler]]. It worked out in the end, though, since Cliffjumper was remorseful for having acted without thinking, and Hound didn't hold a grudge anyway. {{Storylink|More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}<br /> <br /> Soon afterwards, Cliffjumper made a very public display of his paranoia by accusing fellow Autobot and reluctant soldier [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] of being a traitor on some very flimsy evidence, much to the (correct) disbelief of the other Autobots. He kept up his rhetoric even after Optimus Prime ordered him to can it. So determined was he to prove his theory true that he followed Mirage when the latter returned to the Decepticon power station to sow seeds of discontent within the Decepticon ranks. Fortunately, in the end it was proven that Mirage was a loyal Autobot all along, and Cliffjumper fell across Mirage's body, asking Ratchet to fix. This prompted a rather awkward laugh from the present Autobots. {{Storylink|Traitor}}<br /> <br /> While pursuing [[Nightbird]], the female robot ninja built to benefit mankind, Cliffjumper was the only Autobot unable to jump up the cliff after her. Ironic. {{Storylink|Enter the Nightbird}}<br /> <br /> ===Dreamwave Comics continuity===<br /> <br /> Cliffjumper was a part of the crew onboard the [[Ark]] when it crashed into [[Earth]] four million years ago while clearing an asteroid in the path of Cybertron. <br /> <br /> He was one of many Transformers captured and reprogrammed by arms dealer [[Lazarus|Adam 'Lazarus' Rook]] for lease to terrorist organisations and shady governments requiring brutal military might. Fortunately, Autobots under the command of Optimus Prime repaired and re-reprogrammed Cliffjumper and the remaining captive Autobots. Immediately, they were put to work on fighting Megatron's metallic virus, which had spread deep into Canadian territory, using their own internal power as the anti-virus. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 5}}<br /> <br /> As Cliffjumper collapsed into the snow out of exhaustion, the Canadian military arrived. Unfortunately, due to the recent attacks by both enslaved Autobots and Decepticons under the command of Rook, the Canadians attempted to stop the Autobots doing what they percieved to be an attack on their soil. Knowing that the virus feed upon weapons fire, Cliffjumper tried to stop a tank crew from causing further harm by bending the tank's main gun. The commander panicked, thinking Cliffjumper was attacking and fired, destroying himself and seriously damaging the Autobot. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 6}}<br /> <br /> ===Marvel Books Big Looker Storybook continuity===<br /> <br /> [[Image:KidsCliff1.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Scary eyes and awesome car.]]<br /> <br /> In &quot;the Great Car Rally&quot;, a bunch of [[human]]s set up a race for charity. The victor would received a year's supply of oil and gasoline. Well, the Decepticons desperately wanted that bounty, so rather than just steal it, they decided to sneak into the race. Cliffjumper was one of the Autobots driving in the rally and was unaware that the scary black Cadillac was actually being driven by Megatron. Megatron dogged Cliffjumper for quite a while but ended up losing to the Minibot. Cliffjumper won the race and everybody smiled, even Optimus Prime.<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Generation 1===<br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Mini-Vehicle, 1984)<br /> : ''Japanese ID number:'' '''13'''<br /> <br /> : Cliffjumper was part of the initial series of 1984 Autobots. His mold was originally used to make a ''[[Microchange]]'' &quot;MC-04 #01 [[wikipedia:Porsche 924|Porsche 924 Turbo]]&quot;, a cutesified '[[wikipedia:Choro-Q|Penny Racer]]' style representation of the real car. In the original Japanese release, this figure was available in red, yellow, and blue. For the first series ''Transformers'' release, there were common instances of the yellow version of Cliffjumper and the red version of Bumblebee being sold at US retail. This lead to some confusion about the two characters, especially if the toys were found without their packaging.<br /> <br /> : Like the other first series [[Mini Vehicles|Minibots]], Cliffjumper was released in many different color schemes by the companies who licensed ''Transformers'' for South American countries.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/mini_frame.php?art=goldcliff Brazilian Gold Carrera (Cliffjumper) at TF-1.com]&lt;/ref&gt; &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.tf-1.com/articles/mini_frame.php?art=bluecliff Brazilian Blue Carrera (Cliffjumper) at TF-1.com]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> : This mold was [[retool]]ed to make [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]]. He should not be confused with [[Bumper]], who was erroneously packaged on Cliffjumper cards.<br /> <br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Keychain Mini-Vehicle, 2001/2003/2007)<br /> : Released in the US by [[Fun4All]] at the same time as a 'keychain' Bumblebee, this was a slight [[remold]] of the first Cliffjumper toy which added a loop to the back bumper for a keychain attachment. In 2003, Takara released all four of the remolded 'keychain' Minibots (Cliffjumper, Bumblebee, [[Windcharger]], and [[Brawn]]) for the Japanese market in their original decos and in [[exclusive]] all-black coloration. Early in 2007, [[Hasbro]] re-released the 'keychain' Mini-Vehicles for the US under the ''&quot;[[Heroes of Cybertron]]&quot;'' sub-line.<br /> <br /> : This mold was [[redeco]]ed into [[Tap-Out]].<br /> <br /> ===Classics===<br /> *'''Cliffjumper''' (Deluxe, 2006/2007)<br /> <br /> : ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' Cliffjumper is a red, gray and black [[redeco]] of the ''Classics'' Bumblebee toy, transforming into a small sports coupe of made-up model, and towing a small trailer with a non-removable jet-ski. This &quot;[[Wave Crusher]]&quot; trailer/jet-ski transforms into a flight-pack that clips onto Cliffjumper's back.<br /> <br /> ===Robot Heroes===<br /> <br /> [[Image:Robot_Hero_Cliffjumper.jpg|right|thumb|150px|He's so cute.]]<br /> *''Cliffjumper''' (Decepticon Sneak Attack Five Pack, 2007) Cliffjumper is a red, gray and black redeco of the &quot;Robot Heroes&quot; Bumblebee toy in the Wal-Mart exclusive &quot;Decepticon Sneak Attack&quot; five pack.<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> * [http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Cliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm Cliffjumper at TFU.info]<br /> <br /> * [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;char=Cliffjumper Cliffjumper's Universe profile at NTFA.net]<br /> <br /> <br /> {{stub}}<br /> [[Category: Autobots]]<br /> [[Category: Classics characters]]<br /> [[Category: Generation 1 characters]]<br /> [[Category: Mini Vehicles]]<br /> [[Category: Robot Heroes]]<br /> [[Category: Titanium Series]]&lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small&gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</div>

67.140.110.210 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cliffjumper_(G1)&diff=120757 2007-07-05T23:10:39Z

<p>67.140.110.210: </p> <hr /> <div>Very amusing, that he &quot;hates traitors,&quot; but a bit random, perhpas? What's the context for this joke? I never knew this about him. I always thought he was one of those (many) Transformers whose personality could be described as &quot;impulsive,&quot; &quot;brash,&quot; etc.[[User:24.21.139.41|24.21.139.41]] 06:52, 13 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::In a G1 episode called ''Traitor'' (funnily enough), Cliffjumper accuses Mirage of being a traitor on some pretty spurious evidence and becomes obsessed with this notion for the rest of the episode (even Prime's telling him to pack it in). The start of Dreamwave's second miniseries had him accusing Mirage of the same thing, and just like before the other Autobots aren't really joining him. For parts of online fandom, it's probably even ''more'' famous thanks to the parodic exaggeration of it in ''Transformers: World's Worst''. --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 07:35, 13 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::Yep, this wiki makes lots of jokes, but we're actually accurate with our information. Though I think it would help if somebody bothered to actually write about that episode in Cliffjumper's animated bio. Hmm, I'll see what I can do. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:06, 13 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Hey in the worlds smallest line is the red repaint of bumble bee considered to be cliffjumper, with his past as a bumble bee repaint I could see this happening.&lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small&gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</div>

67.140.110.210 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Brawl_(Movie)&diff=120518 2007-07-04T06:45:02Z

<p>67.140.110.210: </p> <hr /> <div>==Not Megatron comment==<br /> <br /> what inspired that? [[USER:GWolf]]<br /> :Many people on various boards who can't get over the fact that movie Megs is neither a gun nor a tank. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::More specifically, the ones who are ''so'' incapable of getting over it that they form elaborate conspiracy theories about how Megatron will get a tank altmode during the movie and Hasbro decided to call the corresponding toy &quot;Brawl&quot; to keep it a surprise. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 03:29, 21 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Brawl could have easily been named Overkill, if you ask me. His toy has an amount of weapons that border on goofy: His spring loaded cannon on his right arm, the fact that it can swivel 180 to reveal a more accurate to his design Gatling Gun molding, his behind the back secondary guns, his shoulder mounted missile launchers, his twin claw, AND the anti-personal cannon molded onto the twin claw's base. Sheeeeeesh. --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 19:30, 10 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Devastator==<br /> <br /> apparently, when they screened the movie in australia, little thing became apparent. His name's Devestator?<br /> <br /> Opened, or screened? Because if it was a pre-screening, it may have been a rough cut of the movie-- several decepticons' names were changes later in production, and Devastator was an early name for Brawl.<br /> <br /> You can count on this being corrected for the actual film release. Roberto Orci has [http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showpost.php?p=368555&amp;postcount=4479 commented on it.] --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 04:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> They called it both a special screening event and a premiere. We rock. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:15, 13 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Hey I just saw the movie on June 29th in a sneak preview in columbus ohio and they called him Devastator. And it seemed like scenes were missing from the movie<br /> <br /> :I'm a little confused as to why &quot;Devastator&quot; isn't noted as a mistaken when the only place it appears is a single subtitle line in the actual movie whilst &quot;Brawl&quot; appears on... everything else ever. I mean, a Michael Bay forced mistake is still a mistake.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 03:52, 4 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::&quot;Forced mistake&quot;? If he intended to call the tank Devastator and he called it Devastator, I'm not seeing the mistake. It's clearly different from every other appearance, but unless we're going to make a big deal about how purple cartoon Rumble is a mistake, there's no reason to make it sound like someone didn't know what his name was. &quot;Brawl&quot; is clearly the most parsimonious name for the page, but that doesn't change the fact that his name is Devastator in the movie. -[[User:67.149.204.113|67.149.204.113]] 04:44, 4 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Heh, until the DVD release. I don't see Hasbro sitting by on that one when they've got Brawl stamped on all the merchandise.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 04:46, 4 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: Brawl is the better name, they should save devastator for the sequel.&lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small&gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</div>

67.140.110.210 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=4140 2007-07-04T06:39:15Z

<p>67.140.110.210: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:100px;line-height:100px;font-weight:900;&quot;&gt;THE FUNNY STAYS.&lt;/span&gt;<br /> -The Management<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Maybe if the stuff you said was funny, no one would have a problem with it, but most of the jokes on here are pretty lame, it's not about transformers fans being serious, it's about your jokes being bad. When other people try to put there humor in it, you erase it. Sooooo make the jokes funny and you wont have to worry about it. Besides the Real Wikipedia has more information on transformers than the one dedicated to transformers have, what gives. Maybe before you work on your lame jokes you can fill out the information on the article. Sorry just what I think about it, don't take to much offence. <br /> __TOC__<br /> ==Older discussion==<br /> This front page needs to be redesigned to be more useful.<br /> <br /> One problem is that it claims to have a list of categories, but it's actually a list of pages that list other pages. &quot;Categories&quot; have a special meaning in MediaWiki related to adding category tags at the bottom of an article. The main page's link to a &quot;complete category list&quot; is the real category list, as understood by the wiki's database. The lists... need to be called something else.<br /> <br /> I do think it's useful to have links on the front page linking to lists of toylines, TV shows, comic series/publishers, etc.. It just needs to be presented differently. I don't at the moment have a good idea for how to do it, though.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 07:55, 5 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Reverted, because our Wiki is not &gt;Beeping&lt; stupid.<br /> <br /> <br /> I propose a site name change to 'The Witwicky Transformers Wikipedia'. <br /> <br /> &quot;Just check the Witwicky!&quot; And we could laugh at our pun, EVERY TIME. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:43, 27 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I '''hate''' the image above the Search field. I '''especially''' hate that clicking on it does nto direct me to, say, the advanced search page, but instead the front page. But '''mostly''' I think it fits horribly witht he page, and my eye 'trips' over it and has to re-orient itself every time i go over to click int he search field. &quot;Uh, okay, right, gotta be sure not to click on that.&quot;<br /> <br /> I just find it... '''unfriendly.''' Other opinions? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:55, 29 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Basically like the main page revision. But, aren't &quot;Universe&quot; and &quot;Timelines&quot; intended to be the same continuity?--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 23:53, 14 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I have no idea. If they are, feel free to remove one of them, but I've never followed either of the comics, so I wouldn't know. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 00:16, 15 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Sort of? Timelines is basically a spin of of Universe in... another Universe. It'll probably be easier to keep it its own continuity for clarity's sake. - [[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]<br /> <br /> :::If Timelines is the continuity of the club comic (not actually a given), don't the events of that series, which now have been linked to the events of the Universe comic, put them together? The fact that Prime and Magnus have been explicitly pulled from one group to another shouldn't make too much difference here, since both are explicitly continuity-hopping continuities. (uhh, yeah.)--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 18:26, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I've always disagreed with Steve's take on the [[Continuities]] page that the fan club comic is a Timelines story. As has been said, Timelines is just a sequence of unrelated story branch-offs, and the fan club comic takes place in the Cybertron cartoon universe. (It's LABELLED a Cybertron story, not Timelines, so that much should be obvious.) Timelines is definitely its own thing. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:18, 23 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::In any event, if we're talking &quot;for clarity's sake,&quot; I find it clearer to have ''fewer'' titles to follow, rather than more. Perhaps you see it differently.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 18:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::There also IS a legal issue involved as well, but I'm not sure on the details involved. I suppose it doesn't matter too much, and maybe we should treat Timelines as a sequel to Universe? - [[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]<br /> <br /> Timelines and Universe are unrelated. Universe refers to a very specific cross-multiverse battle between agents of Primus and Unicron in direct confrontation. Timelines is just off-continuity one-shot stories with vague connections (if any) to whatever jumping-off point they feel like. 2006's &quot;Timelines&quot; entry may very well have no relation to 2005's whatsoever, or 2007... as such, they should remain separate. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> A possible cause for confusion may be that the fan club comic appears to share continuity with the Universe story. However, the fan club comic is, strangely, not &quot;Transformers Timelines&quot; but is simply called &quot;Transformers Cybertron&quot;. So far the only Timelines story is what we got at BotCon 2005. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 21:28, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I expect that we'll see that &quot;Timelines&quot; is the line they release the next &quot;freebie&quot; under when it finally arrives. Time will tell on that. For the moment, you're quite right. I'm still not sure I agree with M Sipher above, but it seems clear that I'm outvoted. So be it.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 00:26, 23 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The info that Timelines is intended to be a series of unconnected, standalone tales comes from conversations with Ben Yee and Karl Hartman. They, like Legends, are all basically &quot;what if&quot; stories. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:03, 23 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> If Timelines is just going to be a bunch of random stories without regard to continuity, then it sounds like it probably wouldn't be too appropriate to have it listed under Continuities on the main page. Since, uh, there isn't any continuity. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 03:12, 23 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Anyone else think it'd be cool to have a different page for each figure? [[User:Doogles|Doogles]] 19:07, 16 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> : It's called tfu.info. :) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:08, 16 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Sho'nuff is. Shows what I know :( [[User:Doogles|Doogles]] 00:51, 17 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &quot;'''''I hate the image above the Search field. I especially hate that clicking on it does nto direct me to, say, the advanced search page, but instead the front page. But mostly I think it fits horribly witht he page, and my eye 'trips' over it and has to re-orient itself every time i go over to click int he search field. &quot;Uh, okay, right, gotta be sure not to click on that'''''.&quot; <br /> <br /> '''''I just find it... unfriendly. Other opinions? -Derik 12:55, 29 March 2006 (UTC)''''' <br /> &quot;i completely agree[[User:86.112.249.240|86.112.249.240]] 18:39, 16 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Plain dumb ==<br /> <br /> I like this site but the comments bellow the pictures (such as megatron) are foolish comments that do not meke any sence i am just about ready to go on a masive cleaning spree whiping out your comments and placing text there that is USEFULL duh!!!!!!!!!! god if a new commer saw you comment on one of megatron's they wouldent know what you where talking about CHANGE IT pleese<br /> <br /> <br /> Sory for the spelling<br /> <br /> :This wiki isn't meant to be 100% serious and neutral like the Wikipedia and almost every other wiki there is. We allow for humour in the biographies, captions and sometimes the body of the article itself. We also sometimes write from the perspective of the character, for humour.<br /> :Because if there's one thing Transformers fans do, its that they take their Transformers too seriously. So please don't go around editing the articles unless you are contributing, thanks. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:05, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> : If by &quot;usefull&quot; (sic) you mean &quot;boring and horrendously, pointlessly redundant text of zero value to anyone&quot;, sure. And if a &quot;new commer&quot; (sic) is somehow confused by a caption under a picture of a Megatron to the point of not being able to ''look at the rest of all the information on the screen and the title of the page'' to determine which one this was, then frankly, how the hell did they even turn on the computer without inadvertently killing themselves? (And besides... Lucas' website-gurus luvvy-luv our wiki and its humor.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:48, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> you are all fools!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a wiki is a place for finding info not for finding stupid hummor<br /> ::Quick, find this guy a spelling wiki! <br /> : Well, for one, you can find ''tons'' of information here. I don't see where having humor removes the information. Show me an actual example of failure to find information because of the existence of a piece of humor in place of &quot;THIS IS A PICTURE OF GENERATION 1 MEGATRON&quot;, which, when seen on a Generation 1 Megatron page with accompanying text talking about Generation 1 Megatron, evokes the response &quot;well no shit&quot; from anyone with two neurons to run a spark between.<br /> : And for two, I wasn't aware that there was some Officially Mandated Standard on what can and can't be done on a wiki. Where, ''exactly'', is it said that all wiki everywhere cannot have jokes?<br /> : And for three, maybe before you start accusing people of being &quot;fools&quot;, you might want to look into proper spelling, capitalization, punctuation and sentence structure. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 01:04, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> : A wiki is a place for literacy, friend. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 01:06, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> :: If one honestly thinks a hobby about toys should be taken seriously, one might consider rethinking their priorities. Plus, the humor at least keeps me (and likely most others) entertained while sifting through loads of info when checking for pages that need additions.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 01:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> :A wiki is a place for articles that are more than two lines long, have punctuation and capitalization, and were written by someone who can spell &quot;penalty.&quot; In other words, not [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Smelting_pool&amp;oldid=55506 yours.] --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 03:21, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Please fix the errors if you find any and improve this wiki rather than attacking the people working hard on creating new content here. [[w:User:Angela|Angela]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Angela|talk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:26, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::My point was that he ''isn't'' working hard on creating new content here, he's just putting up lazy sub-stubs, editing out caption jokes and such, and then calling everyone &quot;fools&quot; for our &quot;stupid hummor.&quot; --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 00:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::My reply was meant for the person suggestion the wiki had &quot;foolish comments&quot; since he could fix this instead of complaining here about it. It wasn't meant as a reply to you since I agree with what you wrote. Sorry for the confusion. [[w:User:Angela|Angela]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Angela|talk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 18:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::::I vote that if this anonymous poster, who I shall call &quot;Leader-1&quot;, elects to follow through on his badly-spelled threat, that we leave at least one of his captions or contributions for posterity, if it follows the same pattern as the rant above...--[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 18:57, 21 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I agree, the comments in the captions are over-the-top and get old really quick. Not saying the wiki needs to be all serious, but every caption is a smart-ass quip and they get repetitive.<br /> :I disagree. What gets repetitive are things like &quot;Grimlock shaking hands with Prime&quot;, &quot;Dinobot Beast mode&quot; etc. But the captions here, and the intro paragraphs are excellent. Have some fun, cause at least here you can have a laugh [[User:GWolf]]<br /> <br /> :Hi. I love the humor on this wiki. It was a wonderful surprise. It's a bit sad that this user feels the need to take Transformers so seriously.[[User:24.21.139.41|24.21.139.41]] 06:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Look, please can we have the captions useful. I didn't have a clue what it was going on about even though i read the whole rest of the article. I'm in half a mind to get rid of the captions entirely so before i do that please change them to something we all can use. Transformers is my favourite tv program and i would like it if the captions are changed. I apreciate the humour but maybe you can find some other way of including it. [[User:217.44.124.90|217.44.124.90]] 11:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::There's no info that you could fit under the photos that would BE useful and not be repedative. The jokes are one of the best things about this wiki. IE - We recognize that this is not a mater for extreme dry, boring, encyclopedic seriousness. Transformers are toys and toy based media, it's all meant to be **FUN** above and beyond ALL else. As long as all the actual info in the articles is acurate, the picture blurbs are such a small thing as to be totally irrelivent and add a great touch of fun. If you try to get rid of them all yourself all you're gonna do is make everyone change them back and get yourself banned. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 11:38, 13 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::&quot;I didn't have a clue what it was going on about even though i read the whole rest of the article.&quot;--&gt;Frankly, that says certain things about you.<br /> :::&quot;Transformers is my favourite tv program and i would like it if the captions are changed.&quot;--&gt;Then...what is your confusion about, exactly? You are familiar with the characters, yes? And yet, you had &quot;no clue what was going on?&quot; Again, certain things are being said about you here.<br /> :::&quot;I apreciate the humour but maybe you can find some other way of including it.&quot;--&gt;Um, other than ''including'' it?[[User:71.34.68.213|71.34.68.213]] 16:02, 13 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> fine the funny stays fine by me!(ps im the person who said &quot;Look, please can we have the captions useful. I didn't have a clue what it was going on about even though i read the whole rest of the article. I'm in half a mind to get rid of the captions entirely so before i do that please change them to something we all can use. Transformers is my favourite tv program and i would like it if the captions are changed. I apreciate the humour but maybe you can find some other way of including it. 217.44.124.90 11:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC) <br /> <br /> &quot;i was just yousing another computer then, but i do apologise, i like the funny now!)[[User:86.112.249.240|86.112.249.240]] 18:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Magyar TF Wiki==<br /> Is there some reason we shouldn't have a link to this? It's pretty unobtrusive, and (not that I read Magyar) the target appears to be a legitimate resource. Albeit one maintained entirely by HardStuff. -[[User:LV|LV]] 18:08, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think it should stay. As I said on [[User talk:Steve-o]] earlier today, this sort of link is an [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Interlanguage links|Interlanguage link]], one which points to the same article on another language version of the same wiki. In this case, the link was pointing to the new [http://hu.transformers.wikia.com Hungarian Transformers Wikia]. The link appears in the left sidebar in the &quot;other languages&quot; section and is the easiest way for people to find this content in their own language. If you look at Wikipedia, you'll see this is used on many articles to link to the same topic in a different language. [[w:User:Angela|Angela]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Angela|talk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:28, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == General informalness ==<br /> <br /> I don't get it. What's with all the lame picture captions and lazy informal writing?<br /> <br /> *Picture caption jokes are one of the fun traditions of this wiki and are not to be replaced by anything except even funnier picture captions. The informal writing style is just how we do things here. As long as the information is acurate there's no reason to be boring about it. Toys are meant to be fun. :)<br /> <br /> Most of the time, though, the writing style is ''fairly'' formal if the article is properly written. If it's just a quick summary thrown in to fill space in lieu of a more detailed write-up that'll be done some time in the future, yeah... shockingly enough, we like to have a bit of ''fun'' when we're writing about the giant robot aliens with lasers. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> 90% of the time picture captions aren't needed. &quot;A picture of Slugslinger.&quot; Well DUH, it's the main picture on Slugslinger's article. Jokes became acceptable to fill that space- they're often puns on character names, or in-jokes about their appearances, but often not.&lt;br/&gt;<br /> When a descriptive caption is actually ''needed'', it should not be removed.<br /> <br /> As for ''informal''... articles tend to get more refined and serious as they get older and more complete (Well, except Wheelie's.) The informal gets smoothed out of 'em. So I guess our answer is- &quot;You're judging tadpoles like they're frogs.&quot; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Also, see the above discussion. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I wonder if it might be worth our while to put a big note of some sort right dead on the Main Page about how humor is fine as long as the info is accurate. Something like &quot;...anyone can edit. The only rules: humor and fun are encouraged as long as accuracy and clarity rule.&quot;<br /> :::You know, I've been on record as not caring for the ''level'' of humor here, but even I have to agree with this. Especially in captions, some humor is perfectly fine. (Of course, my presence here is pretty limited, anyway, so why should you guys listen to me?)--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 22:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Movie is not G1 ==<br /> Moved to [[Talk:Transformers (2007)]]<br /> <br /> ==A suggestion==<br /> <br /> I was thinking it might be an ok idea to add weapons/ability sections to the character profiles, with stuff about what kind of arms a transformer has, or special abilities or such [[User:GWolf]]<br /> :That tends to go in their initial bio section... if they've only had one incarnation.<br /> :Weapons/abilities is fine for, say, Springer, but what abotu Grimlock? He's had 18 bodoes, all with different abilities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:39, 11 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Or guys like Optimus Primal, who have had multiple VERY different bodies. From three-wheeled groundcar to ape to skyboarding metal ape to groundcar/jet/ape to technorganic ape to technorganic Cyber-Key skyboarding ape... and throw in a bat-form.... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 01:27, 12 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Wikia Blogs==<br /> This wiki is included in our new [[w:Wikia Blogs|Wikia Blogs]] feature. To get involved, just add snippets of this wiki's best articles to [[MediaWiki:Blog snippet]] each day and that content will appear on both the [http://blogs.wikia.com/gaming/ Wikia Gaming Blog] and the [http://blogs.wikia.com/scifi/ Wikia Science Fiction Blog]. Please see [[w:c:inside:Wiki to blog|Wiki to blog]] for an introduction and [[w:Wikia Blogs|Wikia Blogs]] for a list of wikis involved in this. [[w:User:Angela|Angela]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Angela|talk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 15:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==External Properties==<br /> Should this be made a subcategory of Characters? Far as I know everything in it's a character except the G.I. Joe Snow Cat. --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 04:03, 12 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Thus proving it does not belong in characters. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:16, 12 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> :The AT-RT won't be a character, nor will any of the Joe/Cobra vehicles. The SWTF pages are iffy, since they're both character AND Vehicle pages for the most part. The Avengers crossover will likely give us a few non-character additions as well. --[[User:69.134.228.186|69.134.228.186]] 04:17, 12 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::There's also the Savage Land and the Daily Bugle. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 04:23, 12 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The only other option is for it to be added to Top-level categories, yes? (Incidentally, the AT-RT doesn't have a page, just the [[Clone Pilot]].) --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 04:26, 12 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Movie Nav Box==<br /> <br /> The navigation box we have for Movie pages really needs an overhaul. Especially now that we have four [[Online games]] (not counting the Sector 7 Hungry Dragon thing) and the nav box points to [[Battle for the Allspark]] as THE online game. What should we do with it? --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 00:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Featured Article for July==<br /> <br /> What should we start polishing up to be next month's Featured Article? It needs to be something relevant for people finding this site after seeing the movie? How about [[Bumblebee (G1)]], as it covers the history behind the film's most prominent robot? --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 21:53, 11 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> : Sure, works for me. We've got our work cut out for us, though! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Is no one up to filling out Bumblebee's Dreamwave, Legends anthology, Dreamwave Transformers/GI Joe, Devil's Due, or Hearts of Steel sections? I'm poking around to see who would be relevant as a featured article for while the movie's out if we're not up to completing Bumblebee... -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 05:55, 22 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::We could always just go with G1 Prime or Megatron. Both of those more than qualify, I think. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 07:28, 22 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::: Megatron's pretty close. I think we just need some filling out of his cartoon exploits. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: He needs TF/G.I. Joe, G.I. Joe vs. TF, and Hearts of Steel filled out too. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 02:52, 23 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::: Hearts of Steel writeup: &quot;There was art of him in the supplemental materials!&quot; --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:04, 23 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::::: ...Two designs for a guy who didn't even show... Dang it.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:05, 23 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> === Movie Launch==<br /> <br /> Hey Guys, Was wondering if you were going to put anything on the home page about the movie launching tonight? I was going to put this wiki in the spotlight starting Friday to promote it, but I think its needs a more recognizable logo so people will click on it. [[User:Angies|angies]]&lt;staff /&gt; ([[User talk:Angies|talk]]) 19:25, 3 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small&gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</div>

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<p>67.140.110.210: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:100px;line-height:100px;font-weight:900;&quot;&gt;THE FUNNY STAYS.&lt;/span&gt;<br /> -The Management<br /> Maybe if the stuff you said was funny, no one would have a problem with it, but most of the jokes on here are pretty lame, it's not about transformers fans being serious, it's about your jokes being bad. When other people try to put there humor in it, you erase it. Sooooo make the jokes funny and you wont have to worry about it. Besides the Real Wikipedia has more information on transformers than the one dedicated to transformers have, what gives. Maybe before you work on your lame jokes you can fill out the information on the article. Sorry just what I think about it, don't take to much offence. <br /> __TOC__<br /> ==Older discussion==<br /> This front page needs to be redesigned to be more useful.<br /> <br /> One problem is that it claims to have a list of categories, but it's actually a list of pages that list other pages. &quot;Categories&quot; have a special meaning in MediaWiki related to adding category tags at the bottom of an article. The main page's link to a &quot;complete category list&quot; is the real category list, as understood by the wiki's database. The lists... need to be called something else.<br /> <br /> I do think it's useful to have links on the front page linking to lists of toylines, TV shows, comic series/publishers, etc.. It just needs to be presented differently. I don't at the moment have a good idea for how to do it, though.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 07:55, 5 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Reverted, because our Wiki is not &gt;Beeping&lt; stupid.<br /> <br /> <br /> I propose a site name change to 'The Witwicky Transformers Wikipedia'. <br /> <br /> &quot;Just check the Witwicky!&quot; And we could laugh at our pun, EVERY TIME. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:43, 27 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I '''hate''' the image above the Search field. I '''especially''' hate that clicking on it does nto direct me to, say, the advanced search page, but instead the front page. But '''mostly''' I think it fits horribly witht he page, and my eye 'trips' over it and has to re-orient itself every time i go over to click int he search field. &quot;Uh, okay, right, gotta be sure not to click on that.&quot;<br /> <br /> I just find it... '''unfriendly.''' Other opinions? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:55, 29 March 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Basically like the main page revision. But, aren't &quot;Universe&quot; and &quot;Timelines&quot; intended to be the same continuity?--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 23:53, 14 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I have no idea. If they are, feel free to remove one of them, but I've never followed either of the comics, so I wouldn't know. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 00:16, 15 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Sort of? Timelines is basically a spin of of Universe in... another Universe. It'll probably be easier to keep it its own continuity for clarity's sake. - [[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]<br /> <br /> :::If Timelines is the continuity of the club comic (not actually a given), don't the events of that series, which now have been linked to the events of the Universe comic, put them together? The fact that Prime and Magnus have been explicitly pulled from one group to another shouldn't make too much difference here, since both are explicitly continuity-hopping continuities. (uhh, yeah.)--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 18:26, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::I've always disagreed with Steve's take on the [[Continuities]] page that the fan club comic is a Timelines story. As has been said, Timelines is just a sequence of unrelated story branch-offs, and the fan club comic takes place in the Cybertron cartoon universe. (It's LABELLED a Cybertron story, not Timelines, so that much should be obvious.) Timelines is definitely its own thing. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:18, 23 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::In any event, if we're talking &quot;for clarity's sake,&quot; I find it clearer to have ''fewer'' titles to follow, rather than more. Perhaps you see it differently.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 18:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::There also IS a legal issue involved as well, but I'm not sure on the details involved. I suppose it doesn't matter too much, and maybe we should treat Timelines as a sequel to Universe? - [[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]<br /> <br /> Timelines and Universe are unrelated. Universe refers to a very specific cross-multiverse battle between agents of Primus and Unicron in direct confrontation. Timelines is just off-continuity one-shot stories with vague connections (if any) to whatever jumping-off point they feel like. 2006's &quot;Timelines&quot; entry may very well have no relation to 2005's whatsoever, or 2007... as such, they should remain separate. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> A possible cause for confusion may be that the fan club comic appears to share continuity with the Universe story. However, the fan club comic is, strangely, not &quot;Transformers Timelines&quot; but is simply called &quot;Transformers Cybertron&quot;. So far the only Timelines story is what we got at BotCon 2005. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 21:28, 22 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I expect that we'll see that &quot;Timelines&quot; is the line they release the next &quot;freebie&quot; under when it finally arrives. Time will tell on that. For the moment, you're quite right. I'm still not sure I agree with M Sipher above, but it seems clear that I'm outvoted. So be it.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 00:26, 23 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The info that Timelines is intended to be a series of unconnected, standalone tales comes from conversations with Ben Yee and Karl Hartman. They, like Legends, are all basically &quot;what if&quot; stories. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:03, 23 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> If Timelines is just going to be a bunch of random stories without regard to continuity, then it sounds like it probably wouldn't be too appropriate to have it listed under Continuities on the main page. Since, uh, there isn't any continuity. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 03:12, 23 April 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Anyone else think it'd be cool to have a different page for each figure? [[User:Doogles|Doogles]] 19:07, 16 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> : It's called tfu.info. :) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:08, 16 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Sho'nuff is. Shows what I know :( [[User:Doogles|Doogles]] 00:51, 17 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> &quot;'''''I hate the image above the Search field. I especially hate that clicking on it does nto direct me to, say, the advanced search page, but instead the front page. But mostly I think it fits horribly witht he page, and my eye 'trips' over it and has to re-orient itself every time i go over to click int he search field. &quot;Uh, okay, right, gotta be sure not to click on that'''''.&quot; <br /> <br /> '''''I just find it... unfriendly. Other opinions? -Derik 12:55, 29 March 2006 (UTC)''''' <br /> &quot;i completely agree[[User:86.112.249.240|86.112.249.240]] 18:39, 16 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Plain dumb ==<br /> <br /> I like this site but the comments bellow the pictures (such as megatron) are foolish comments that do not meke any sence i am just about ready to go on a masive cleaning spree whiping out your comments and placing text there that is USEFULL duh!!!!!!!!!! god if a new commer saw you comment on one of megatron's they wouldent know what you where talking about CHANGE IT pleese<br /> <br /> <br /> Sory for the spelling<br /> <br /> :This wiki isn't meant to be 100% serious and neutral like the Wikipedia and almost every other wiki there is. We allow for humour in the biographies, captions and sometimes the body of the article itself. We also sometimes write from the perspective of the character, for humour.<br /> :Because if there's one thing Transformers fans do, its that they take their Transformers too seriously. So please don't go around editing the articles unless you are contributing, thanks. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:05, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> : If by &quot;usefull&quot; (sic) you mean &quot;boring and horrendously, pointlessly redundant text of zero value to anyone&quot;, sure. And if a &quot;new commer&quot; (sic) is somehow confused by a caption under a picture of a Megatron to the point of not being able to ''look at the rest of all the information on the screen and the title of the page'' to determine which one this was, then frankly, how the hell did they even turn on the computer without inadvertently killing themselves? (And besides... Lucas' website-gurus luvvy-luv our wiki and its humor.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:48, 17 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> you are all fools!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a wiki is a place for finding info not for finding stupid hummor<br /> ::Quick, find this guy a spelling wiki! <br /> : Well, for one, you can find ''tons'' of information here. I don't see where having humor removes the information. Show me an actual example of failure to find information because of the existence of a piece of humor in place of &quot;THIS IS A PICTURE OF GENERATION 1 MEGATRON&quot;, which, when seen on a Generation 1 Megatron page with accompanying text talking about Generation 1 Megatron, evokes the response &quot;well no shit&quot; from anyone with two neurons to run a spark between.<br /> : And for two, I wasn't aware that there was some Officially Mandated Standard on what can and can't be done on a wiki. Where, ''exactly'', is it said that all wiki everywhere cannot have jokes?<br /> : And for three, maybe before you start accusing people of being &quot;fools&quot;, you might want to look into proper spelling, capitalization, punctuation and sentence structure. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 01:04, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> : A wiki is a place for literacy, friend. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 01:06, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> :: If one honestly thinks a hobby about toys should be taken seriously, one might consider rethinking their priorities. Plus, the humor at least keeps me (and likely most others) entertained while sifting through loads of info when checking for pages that need additions.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 01:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> :A wiki is a place for articles that are more than two lines long, have punctuation and capitalization, and were written by someone who can spell &quot;penalty.&quot; In other words, not [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Smelting_pool&amp;oldid=55506 yours.] --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 03:21, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Please fix the errors if you find any and improve this wiki rather than attacking the people working hard on creating new content here. [[w:User:Angela|Angela]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Angela|talk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:26, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::My point was that he ''isn't'' working hard on creating new content here, he's just putting up lazy sub-stubs, editing out caption jokes and such, and then calling everyone &quot;fools&quot; for our &quot;stupid hummor.&quot; --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 00:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::My reply was meant for the person suggestion the wiki had &quot;foolish comments&quot; since he could fix this instead of complaining here about it. It wasn't meant as a reply to you since I agree with what you wrote. Sorry for the confusion. [[w:User:Angela|Angela]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Angela|talk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 18:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::::I vote that if this anonymous poster, who I shall call &quot;Leader-1&quot;, elects to follow through on his badly-spelled threat, that we leave at least one of his captions or contributions for posterity, if it follows the same pattern as the rant above...--[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 18:57, 21 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I agree, the comments in the captions are over-the-top and get old really quick. Not saying the wiki needs to be all serious, but every caption is a smart-ass quip and they get repetitive.<br /> :I disagree. What gets repetitive are things like &quot;Grimlock shaking hands with Prime&quot;, &quot;Dinobot Beast mode&quot; etc. But the captions here, and the intro paragraphs are excellent. Have some fun, cause at least here you can have a laugh [[User:GWolf]]<br /> <br /> :Hi. I love the humor on this wiki. It was a wonderful surprise. It's a bit sad that this user feels the need to take Transformers so seriously.[[User:24.21.139.41|24.21.139.41]] 06:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Look, please can we have the captions useful. I didn't have a clue what it was going on about even though i read the whole rest of the article. I'm in half a mind to get rid of the captions entirely so before i do that please change them to something we all can use. Transformers is my favourite tv program and i would like it if the captions are changed. I apreciate the humour but maybe you can find some other way of including it. [[User:217.44.124.90|217.44.124.90]] 11:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::There's no info that you could fit under the photos that would BE useful and not be repedative. The jokes are one of the best things about this wiki. IE - We recognize that this is not a mater for extreme dry, boring, encyclopedic seriousness. Transformers are toys and toy based media, it's all meant to be **FUN** above and beyond ALL else. As long as all the actual info in the articles is acurate, the picture blurbs are such a small thing as to be totally irrelivent and add a great touch of fun. If you try to get rid of them all yourself all you're gonna do is make everyone change them back and get yourself banned. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 11:38, 13 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::&quot;I didn't have a clue what it was going on about even though i read the whole rest of the article.&quot;--&gt;Frankly, that says certain things about you.<br /> :::&quot;Transformers is my favourite tv program and i would like it if the captions are changed.&quot;--&gt;Then...what is your confusion about, exactly? You are familiar with the characters, yes? And yet, you had &quot;no clue what was going on?&quot; Again, certain things are being said about you here.<br /> :::&quot;I apreciate the humour but maybe you can find some other way of including it.&quot;--&gt;Um, other than ''including'' it?[[User:71.34.68.213|71.34.68.213]] 16:02, 13 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> fine the funny stays fine by me!(ps im the person who said &quot;Look, please can we have the captions useful. I didn't have a clue what it was going on about even though i read the whole rest of the article. I'm in half a mind to get rid of the captions entirely so before i do that please change them to something we all can use. Transformers is my favourite tv program and i would like it if the captions are changed. I apreciate the humour but maybe you can find some other way of including it. 217.44.124.90 11:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC) <br /> <br /> &quot;i was just yousing another computer then, but i do apologise, i like the funny now!)[[User:86.112.249.240|86.112.249.240]] 18:27, 16 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Magyar TF Wiki==<br /> Is there some reason we shouldn't have a link to this? It's pretty unobtrusive, and (not that I read Magyar) the target appears to be a legitimate resource. Albeit one maintained entirely by HardStuff. -[[User:LV|LV]] 18:08, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think it should stay. As I said on [[User talk:Steve-o]] earlier today, this sort of link is an [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Interlanguage links|Interlanguage link]], one which points to the same article on another language version of the same wiki. In this case, the link was pointing to the new [http://hu.transformers.wikia.com Hungarian Transformers Wikia]. The link appears in the left sidebar in the &quot;other languages&quot; section and is the easiest way for people to find this content in their own language. If you look at Wikipedia, you'll see this is used on many articles to link to the same topic in a different language. [[w:User:Angela|Angela]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Angela|talk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:28, 18 February 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == General informalness ==<br /> <br /> I don't get it. What's with all the lame picture captions and lazy informal writing?<br /> <br /> *Picture caption jokes are one of the fun traditions of this wiki and are not to be replaced by anything except even funnier picture captions. The informal writing style is just how we do things here. As long as the information is acurate there's no reason to be boring about it. Toys are meant to be fun. :)<br /> <br /> Most of the time, though, the writing style is ''fairly'' formal if the article is properly written. If it's just a quick summary thrown in to fill space in lieu of a more detailed write-up that'll be done some time in the future, yeah... shockingly enough, we like to have a bit of ''fun'' when we're writing about the giant robot aliens with lasers. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:50, 10 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> 90% of the time picture captions aren't needed. &quot;A picture of Slugslinger.&quot; Well DUH, it's the main picture on Slugslinger's article. Jokes became acceptable to fill that space- they're often puns on character names, or in-jokes about their appearances, but often not.&lt;br/&gt;<br /> When a descriptive caption is actually ''needed'', it should not be removed.<br /> <br /> As for ''informal''... articles tend to get more refined and serious as they get older and more complete (Well, except Wheelie's.) The informal gets smoothed out of 'em. So I guess our answer is- &quot;You're judging tadpoles like they're frogs.&quot; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Also, see the above discussion. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I wonder if it might be worth our while to put a big note of some sort right dead on the Main Page about how humor is fine as long as the info is accurate. Something like &quot;...anyone can edit. The only rules: humor and fun are encouraged as long as accuracy and clarity rule.&quot;<br /> :::You know, I've been on record as not caring for the ''level'' of humor here, but even I have to agree with this. Especially in captions, some humor is perfectly fine. (Of course, my presence here is pretty limited, anyway, so why should you guys listen to me?)--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 22:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Movie is not G1 ==<br /> Moved to [[Talk:Transformers (2007)]]<br /> <br /> ==A suggestion==<br /> <br /> I was thinking it might be an ok idea to add weapons/ability sections to the character profiles, with stuff about what kind of arms a transformer has, or special abilities or such [[User:GWolf]]<br /> :That tends to go in their initial bio section... if they've only had one incarnation.<br /> :Weapons/abilities is fine for, say, Springer, but what abotu Grimlock? He's had 18 bodoes, all with different abilities. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:39, 11 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Or guys like Optimus Primal, who have had multiple VERY different bodies. From three-wheeled groundcar to ape to skyboarding metal ape to groundcar/jet/ape to technorganic ape to technorganic Cyber-Key skyboarding ape... and throw in a bat-form.... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 01:27, 12 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Wikia Blogs==<br /> This wiki is included in our new [[w:Wikia Blogs|Wikia Blogs]] feature. To get involved, just add snippets of this wiki's best articles to [[MediaWiki:Blog snippet]] each day and that content will appear on both the [http://blogs.wikia.com/gaming/ Wikia Gaming Blog] and the [http://blogs.wikia.com/scifi/ Wikia Science Fiction Blog]. Please see [[w:c:inside:Wiki to blog|Wiki to blog]] for an introduction and [[w:Wikia Blogs|Wikia Blogs]] for a list of wikis involved in this. [[w:User:Angela|Angela]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Angela|talk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 15:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==External Properties==<br /> Should this be made a subcategory of Characters? Far as I know everything in it's a character except the G.I. Joe Snow Cat. --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 04:03, 12 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Thus proving it does not belong in characters. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:16, 12 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> :The AT-RT won't be a character, nor will any of the Joe/Cobra vehicles. The SWTF pages are iffy, since they're both character AND Vehicle pages for the most part. The Avengers crossover will likely give us a few non-character additions as well. --[[User:69.134.228.186|69.134.228.186]] 04:17, 12 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::There's also the Savage Land and the Daily Bugle. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 04:23, 12 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The only other option is for it to be added to Top-level categories, yes? (Incidentally, the AT-RT doesn't have a page, just the [[Clone Pilot]].) --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 04:26, 12 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Movie Nav Box==<br /> <br /> The navigation box we have for Movie pages really needs an overhaul. Especially now that we have four [[Online games]] (not counting the Sector 7 Hungry Dragon thing) and the nav box points to [[Battle for the Allspark]] as THE online game. What should we do with it? --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 00:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Featured Article for July==<br /> <br /> What should we start polishing up to be next month's Featured Article? It needs to be something relevant for people finding this site after seeing the movie? How about [[Bumblebee (G1)]], as it covers the history behind the film's most prominent robot? --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 21:53, 11 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> : Sure, works for me. We've got our work cut out for us, though! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Is no one up to filling out Bumblebee's Dreamwave, Legends anthology, Dreamwave Transformers/GI Joe, Devil's Due, or Hearts of Steel sections? I'm poking around to see who would be relevant as a featured article for while the movie's out if we're not up to completing Bumblebee... -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 05:55, 22 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::We could always just go with G1 Prime or Megatron. Both of those more than qualify, I think. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 07:28, 22 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::: Megatron's pretty close. I think we just need some filling out of his cartoon exploits. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::: He needs TF/G.I. Joe, G.I. Joe vs. TF, and Hearts of Steel filled out too. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 02:52, 23 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::: Hearts of Steel writeup: &quot;There was art of him in the supplemental materials!&quot; --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:04, 23 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::::: ...Two designs for a guy who didn't even show... Dang it.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:05, 23 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> === Movie Launch==<br /> <br /> Hey Guys, Was wondering if you were going to put anything on the home page about the movie launching tonight? I was going to put this wiki in the spotlight starting Friday to promote it, but I think its needs a more recognizable logo so people will click on it. [[User:Angies|angies]]&lt;staff /&gt; ([[User talk:Angies|talk]]) 19:25, 3 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small&gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</div>

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