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Holger Fath

2009-05-17T14:37:17Z

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[[Image:Holgerfath.jpg|right|thumb|300px|He's got the tooooooooooooooouuuch.]]

'''Holger Fath''' is a German producer/guitarist who has recently begun working with [[Stan Bush]]. He was the producer of Stan Bush's album, "In This Life," which was re-released at [[BotCon 2007]] with the official [[BotCon]] theme, "Till All Are One."

He is a cheerful man.

==External links==
*[http://www.fathcatmusic.com/ Fathcat Music]
*[http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=98278 Holger Fath, guitarist of 1984 German melodic rock group, Nation]
*[http://www.enlacemusical.com/c.php?id=10541 Holger Fath, guest guitarist for Bleth]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3_EXxwDpq0 Holger Fath stars in Stan Bush's 2009 Linkin Park-esque remake of "The Touch"]

[[Category: Musicians|Fath, Holger]]

Talk:Transformers Timelines (fiction)

2007-12-28T18:13:12Z

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Is "franchise" the right word for this? Should we set up the whole usual schtick for a full-blown [[franchise]]? (Franchise page, comics page, toyline page, etc.)

I'm asking not only 'cause I'm anal about this stuff, but also 'cause it remains difficult to find your way around some of the convention- and club-based pages. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:38, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
:Practically every story under a Timelines banner belongs to a different franchise/continuity from the next, so any "franchise" page should identify just where said Timelines events are supposed to be taking place. (This is going to be a problem with Descent Into Evil and, to a lesser extent, Razor's Edge, because those take place in a wherewhen we don't have have an actual name for.) I suspect a single page to handle all of the aspects of Timelines is probably sufficient, since many of the individual stories will presumably appear in their relevant franchises as well. -[[User:67.149.204.113|67.149.204.113]] 18:13, 28 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Tidal Wave (Armada)

2007-09-06T16:11:11Z

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Is the (UT) tag here really necessary, or does that go on 'every' ArmadagonTron-exclusive character? >.> [[User:Onslaught Six|Onslaught Six]] 07:42, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

These tags go on EVERY Transformer. In preparation for future name re-use. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 07:47, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

"The Takara and Hasbro versions are considerably different, even through they only have a single difference. The Takara version uses purple plastic in the place of Hasbro's green. While this makes the Takara version somewhat more like the show portrayal, the color layouts are still off." Uh this is really wrong, Shockwave has darker greys, and different paint Apps(mainly on the "elevator" and legs.)
: Agreed, that text was pretty off. Fixed. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

== Tidal Wave ==

Tidal Wave is an awsome Transformer, if his brain wasn't all messed up he'd make the perfect Decepticon leader. If they ever make a second Transformer movie, the should put Tidal Wave in it.

==Classics==
Don't we need a Disambiguation now that the name has been reused on Bugbites waverunner? [[User:85.195.123.25|85.195.123.25]] 06:17, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

== Megatron combination ==

Umm, I didn't watch all of Armada, but I seem to remember Tidal Wave being capable of combining with Megatron (to form a really, really bulky, unweildy version of Megatron). TFU definitely has pictures of the toys doing it... but there's no mention made of it in the article. [[User:88.111.160.234|88.111.160.234]] 15:57, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:Fixed it, among other things. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:31, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

== The Toy of "Shockwave" ==
It seems that Takara replaced the green color with purple, which is [[Shockwave|HIS]] main color. -- [[User:TX55|TX55]] 10:36, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
:According to Aaron Archer back during the Orson's World days, the reason why their colours were so different was that the 'Shockwave' colour scheme was needed by the Takara and the animators, so Hasbro made a really quick colour scheme for them to use. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:26, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
::That being said...despite how different it is, the Takara toy really doesn't look very much like the show model either. -[[User:67.149.204.113|67.149.204.113]] 16:11, 6 September 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Maelstrom

2007-09-05T17:30:03Z

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So is Maelstrom a drone? He sounds like he's an individual. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 16:52, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
:He's an individual drone. -[[User:67.149.204.113|67.149.204.113]] 17:30, 5 September 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Menasor (G1)

2007-08-04T23:14:53Z

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{{Template:Disambig3|Menasor}}

:''Menasor is a [[Decepticon]] in the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:DreamwaveCover6.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Dennis the Menasor]]

'''Menasor''' was meant to be the ultimate Decepticon weapon, and perhaps he would have been, if not for the fatal flaw in his design. His mind was designed to merge together the psyches of the five [[Stunticon]]s who compose his form, but the great depth of loathing the four limb components feel towards [[Motormaster]] has created a primal psychological rift and left Menasor an unpredictable mass of conflicting chaotic impulses. Extremely powerful, mentally unstable, and prone to violent tantrums where he lashes out at anything in range. Menasor is not a weapon to point and fire, but a raging monster to turn lose on the battlefield and then get as far away from as possible.

In all continuities he is depicted as being the chief rival and equal of [[Superion (G1)|Superion]]. However, this makes more poetic than literal sense, as the [[Scale|real-life scale difference]] between their component vehicle parts would suggest a rather drastic disparity in actual stature.

Menasor is the combined form of all five Stunticons:

*[[Motormaster]] (leader)
*[[Drag Strip]]
*[[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]]
*[[Wildrider]]
*[[Breakdown]]

''Italian name: '''Pentacar'''

==Fiction==
===Animated continuity===
:''Voice Actor:'' [[Rege Cordic]] (US), [[Kōji Totani]] (Japan)

Menasor was formed for the first time to counter the new [[Autobot]] team, the [[Aerialbots]], only to face their combined form of [[Superion (G1)|Superion]]. Menasor's sheer aggression drove the Autobot combiner back until he was trapped, only to have victory slip out of his grasp when a newly repaired [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] helped Superion defeat the Decepticon. {{Storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2}}

When the treacherous [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] rampaged with his [[Combaticon|new army]], [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] requested the assistance of the Stunticons, only to be rebuffed by Motormaster. Later, [[Bruticus]] defeated [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], and Starscream's victory seemed imminent when the Stunticons finally turned up. At first, the rowdy bunch of cars did not care if Megatron was destroyed, but realized Starscream would not simply stop at eliminating his former leader. Quickly they formed Menasor, who dispatched Bruticus in one mighty punch. {{Storylink|Starscream's Brigade}}

====''The Transformer'' manga====

====''Zone'' OVA and manga====
:''Voice Actor:'' [[Masato Hirano]] (Japan)

[[Image:MenasorZone1.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Hmm I wonder if he's evil...]]

''(Menasor is referred to as one of the [[Nine Great Demon Generals]]. This terminology, coupled with the presence of the previously deceased [[Black Zarak]] in their ranks and [[Violen Jygar]]'s supernatural origins, could mean that Menasor died previously to Zone and was likewise brought back to life. However, this is unconfirmed, meaning that Violen Jygar may have simply recruited the still-living Menasor to be a General.)''

When [[Violen Jygar]] siezed command of the Decepticons, his first act was to recruit 9 Demon-Generals from Decepticon history. Menasor was selected to be one of those Generals and was given the odd rank of Intelligence General as well as new power and weaponry to make him an even greater threat than before. Menasor was sent to the Planet [[Feminia]] to wreak havoc along with [[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]] and [[Overlord (G1)|Overlord]]. Together, the 3 Decepticon Demon-Generals destroyed the entire planet and nearly killed [[Victory Saber]] in the process.

===Marvel Comics continuity===

===Dreamwave Comics continuity===
At some point in Cybertron's recent history, the Stunticons were deemed psychotic and too dangerous to function in society, and as a result were placed into perpetual stasis lock inside of a prison facility. Later, in an attempt to create a diversion while he set his final plans in motion, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] arranged for the release of the Stunticons. They formed into Menasor and ran amuck for awhile, until [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] arrived and began insulting them. Unable to reconcile with this, the five Stunticons began to bicker with each other over whose fault it was that they were failing, temporarily stopping Menasor and allowing Ultra Magnus to ram the combiner in the chest, forcing him to separate into his component parts and disabling the Stunticons.

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Menasor''' (1986)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-55'''

[[Image:G1menasor_toy.jpg|left|thumb|Not [[Optimus_Prime_(G1)|Optimus Prime]] and the Autobots in cosplay.]]

: Menasor is formed by transforming Motormaster into his torso mode, attaching a chest plate/scout car, waist armour and mask on him, then connecting the other Stunticons into the appropriate limb slots in Motormaster's arms and legs. Fists and feet are then attached to the limbs. He is armed with Motormaster's sword and cyclone rifle. The Stuniticons were available both in individual packages, or in a complete box set available in numerous markets.

: It's worth noting that Menasor is the smallest of the [[Scramble City]]-type combiners in the Generation 1 toyline.

: An Japanese "VS-A" set with [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] was planned, but unreleased.

{{-}}
===Classics===
*'''Menasor''' (Legends, 2006)
[[Image:ClassicsLOCMenasor.jpg|right|thumb|Not [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]].]]

:This black and purple [[redeco]] of ''[[Legends of Cybertron]]'' [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] transforms into a Cybertronic truck cab. It was intended to be Motormaster, but the name [[trademark]] could not be obtained. The toy was given the name "Menasor", and the super robot's function of "Super Warrior", effectively making him Menasor, not Motormaster.

===Titaniums===
*'''Menasor''' (6" Cybertron Heroes, 2007)

: A 2007 San Diego Com-c-Con [[exclusive]], Menasor is a redeco of the ''[[Titanium Series]]'' [[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]], transforming into a Cybertronic... Winnebago-ish thing.

:According to this Menasor's bio, he is a single entity built from the bodies of the individual Stunticons and controlled by their psychotic, permanently unified minds. Whether this same backstory applies to the Classics or Universe toys is unknown.

===Unreleased toys===
* [[Redeco]]s of all five Stunticons were planned for ''[[Generation 2]]'' release in 1994, but were canceled with only a handful of test shots and production samples made. A small run of [[Breakdown]]s were released as the 1994 BotCon exclusive.

* Menasor was a planned release for the ''[[Universe]]'' line, as a redeco of the [[Thunder Clash]] mold (or, more accurately, the ''[[Machine Wars]]'' Optimus Prime [[retool]]ing). It too was originally intended to be Motormaster at first, but trademark stymied that.

==Trivia==

* An alternate animation character sheet from the original cartoon exists for Menasor. It features all of the limbs in different orientations (the arms upside-down, the legs reversed) from the final model ''and'' the chest sports an Autobot symbol (!) suggesting, perhaps, that the Stunticon and Aerialbot toy factions may have originally been the other way around.

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/Menasor/menasor.htm Menasor at TFU.info]
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Menasor Menasor's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

[[Category: Classics characters]]
[[Category: Combiners]]
[[Category: Decepticons]]
[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category: Generation 2 characters]]
[[Category: Legends of Cybertron]]
[[Category: Unreleased toys]]
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Tracer (Micromaster)

2007-08-04T15:54:06Z

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:''Tracer is a [[Decepticon]] [[Micromaster]] in the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

'''Tracer''' is an integral part of the [[Military Patrol]], swooping ahead of his teammates to scout out the opposition, and soften them up. He actually respects team leader [[Bombshock]] (and not just out of fear!), but still thinks he should lead the unit. Thus, he may be the only ambitious Decepticon who tries to get his superior ''promoted,'' rather than "unexpectedly dead".

==Fiction==
===Dreamwave comics continuity===
====''Micromasters''====

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Military Patrol''' (1990)
Tracer transforms into a black AH-64 Apache attack helicopter.

==External links==
*[http://tfu.info/1990/Decepticon/Tracer/tracer.htm Tracer at TFU.info]

[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category: Decepticons]]
[[Category: Micromasters]]

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Sunrunner (G1)

2007-08-04T15:47:25Z

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:''Sunrunner is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.''

==Fiction==
===Marvel UK comics===
{{Storylink|Aspects of Evil}}
Sunrunner and [[Flak]] were among the Autobots under [[Hot Rod|Rodimus Prime]]'s command when he returned to the future after [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron's]] destruction. Their [[Battle Patrol]] were among the 400 Autobts that escaped to [[Earth]] with Rodimus.

''Sunrunner was a full-size Transformer during Rodimus's return, but a [[Micromaster]] by the time of their journey to Earth.

===Dreamwave Generation 1 comics===

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
*'''Battle Patrol''' (Micromaster Patrol, 1989)
Sunrunner transforms into a modified E-2C Hawkeye EWACS plane, minus the EWACS equipment, plus a hulking great missile rack.

===Zone===
*'''Battle Patrol Team''' (Micro Transformer team, 1990)
:''Japanese ID number'': '''C-332'''
:This release was a [[redeco]] of the US release.

===Battlestars===
*'''Battle Patrol Team''' (Micro Trailer team, 1991)
:''Japanese ID number'': '''C-374'''
: The Micromasters in this set were identical to their [[Zone]] release, but came with [[Micro Trailer]] # 11.

==External Links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/1989/Autobot/Sunrunner/sunrunner.htm Sunrunner at TFU.info]

[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
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Big Shot

2007-08-04T15:45:35Z

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:''Big Shot is an [[Autobot]] [[Micromaster]] in the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

'''Big Shot''' is the leader of the [[Battle Patrol]], and likes to think ''inside'' the box. This makes him efficient and reliable, but since it seems like every other Micromaster is a hot-head who doesn't play by the rules, it also makes him a bit of an outsider.

==Fiction==
===Dreamwave comics continuity===
====''Micromasters''====

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Battle Patrol''' (1989)
Big Shot transforms into a brown and beige Denel G-6 self-propelled gun.

==External links==
*[http://tfu.info/1989/Autobot/BigShot/bigshot.htm Big Shot at TFU.info]

[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Micromasters]]

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Free Wheeler

2007-08-04T15:44:35Z

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:''Free Wheeler is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.''

'''Free Wheeler''' is a member of the [[Race Car Patrol]].

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
''(Note: Events from the UK-only comic stories are in italics.)''

===''Zone'' OAV===

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
====''Micromasters''====

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Race Car Patrol''' (1989)
: ''Japanese ID number:''
Free Wheeler transforms into a yellow Lamborghini LP500 Quattrovalvole.

==External links==
*[http://tfu.info/1989/Autobot/FreeWheeler/freewheeler.htm Free Wheeler at TFU.info]

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[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category: Micromasters]]
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Tailspin

2007-08-04T15:43:56Z

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:''Tailspin is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.''

'''Tailspin''' is a member of the [[Race Car Patrol]].

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
''(Note: Events from the UK-only comic stories are in italics.)''

===''Zone'' OAV===

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
====''Micromasters''====

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Race Car Patrol''' (1989)
: ''Japanese ID number:''
Tailspin transforms into a blue Porsche 962 racecar.

==External links==
*[http://tfu.info/1989/Autobot/Tailspin/tailspin.htm Tailspin at TFU.info]

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[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category: Micromasters]]
[[Category: Zone characters]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Greaser

2007-08-04T15:43:13Z

67.149.204.113: Altmode(?) - there's some strangeness going on here. Stupid hot rods.

:''Greaser is an [[Autobot]] [[Micromaster]] in the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

'''Greaser''' of the [[Hot Rod Patrol]] grew up on the streets of [[Cybertron]], participating in back-alley do-or-die races against violent thugs and future [[Decepticon|Decepticons]]. He has a record of petty larceny, and gets defensive if anyone brings up his history.

By the way, in this context, "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greaser_%28subculture%29 Greaser]" refers to the American street gangs of the 1950s, with their greased-back hair. Y'know, like the Fonz. It 's not the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greaser_%28derogatory%29 ethnic slur].

==Fiction==
===Dreamwave comics continuity===
====''Micromasters''====

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Hot Rod Patrol''' (1990)
Greaser transforms into a pale orange Ford "Deuce Coupe" hot rod.

==External links==
*[http://tfu.info/1990/Autobot/Greaser/greaser.htm Greaser at TFU.info]

[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Micromasters]]

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Hubs

2007-08-04T15:39:14Z

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:''Hubs is an [[Autobot]] [[Micromaster]] in the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

'''Hubs''' is the youngest member of the [[Hot Rod Patrol]], and therefore is yet another young punk who doesn't play by the rules. Except, this kid is also not half as good as he thinks he is, and gets the team into trouble when he overestimates his abilities. But, he'll learn. He'll learn.

==Fiction==
===Dreamwave comics continuity===
====''Micromasters''====

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Hot Rod Patrol''' (1990)
Hubs transforms into a pale green Willys Coupe hot rod.

==External links==
*[http://tfu.info/1990/Autobot/Hubs/hubs.htm Hubs at TFU.info]

[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Micromasters]]

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Swindler

2007-08-04T15:37:19Z

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''Not to be confused with [[Swindle]].''

:''Swindler is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.''

'''Swindler''' is a member of the [[Race Car Patrol]].

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
''(Note: Events from the UK-only comic stories are in italics.)''

Swindler became Roadhandler's manager when the latter became a pro wrestling celebrity.

===''Zone'' OAV===

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
====''Micromasters''====

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Race Car Patrol''' (1989)
: ''Japanese ID number:''
Swindler transforms into a gray DeLorean DMC-12 sportscar. He was sold with [[Roadhandler (G1)|Roadhandler]], [[Free Wheeler]] and [[Tailspin]].

==Trivia==
*Swindler's name is an obvious jab at carmaker John DeLorean's... less than honorable business practices.

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1989/Autobot/Swindler/swindler.htm Swindler at TFU.info]

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[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category: Micromasters]]
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Hyperdrive (Micromaster)

2007-08-04T15:36:24Z

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:''Hyperdrive is a [[Decepticon]] [[Micromaster]] in the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

'''Hyperdrive''' is violent, destructive, and likes nothing better than "putting one in the CPU" of wounded [[Autobots]]. Even his teammates in the [[Sports Car Patrol]] are put off by his ignoble nature.

==Fiction==
===Dreamwave comics continuity===
====''Micromasters''====

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Sports Car Patrol''' (1989)
Hyperdrive transforms into a cyan Mitsubishi X2S concept car.

==External links==
*[http://tfu.info/1989/Decepticon/Hyperdrive/hyperdrive.htm Hyperdrive at TFU.info]

[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category: Decepticons]]
[[Category: Micromasters]]

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Whisper (G1)

2007-08-04T15:31:28Z

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:''Whisper is a [[Decepticon]] [[Micromaster]] in the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

'''Whisper''' is, currently, the leader of the [[Air Strike Patrol]], a position he holds by being braver than [[Nightflight (Decepticon)|Nightflight]], smarter than [[Storm Cloud (G1)|Storm Cloud]], and bolder than [[Tailwind]]. In fact, if he wasn't completely despicable, he'd probably make a good Autobot. Pity [[Whisper (Autobot)|the position's taken]].

==Fiction==
===Dreamwave comics continuity===
====''Micromasters''====

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Air Strike Patrol''' (1989)
Whisper transforms into a black Stealth fighter jet loosely based on the apocryphal "F-19" design.

==External links==
*[http://tfu.info/1989/Decepticon/Whisper/whisper.htm Whisper at TFU.info]

[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category: Decepticons]]
[[Category: Micromasters]]

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Tailwind (G1)

2007-08-04T15:30:20Z

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:''Tailwind is a [[Decepticon]] [[Micromaster]] in the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

Of the scheming junior members of the [[Air Strike Patrol]], '''Tailwind''' is the one most likely to seize control of the unit. This is because he knows how to keep his mouth shut, and take a short-term loss for long-term gain.

==Fiction==
===Dreamwave comics continuity===
====''Micromasters''====

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Air Strike Patrol''' (1989)
Tailwind transforms into a blue A-10 Thunderbolt II attack jet.

==External links==
*[http://tfu.info/1989/Decepticon/Tailwind/tailwind.htm Tailwind at TFU.info]

[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category: Decepticons]]
[[Category: Micromasters]]

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Storm Cloud (G1)

2007-08-04T15:28:33Z

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:''Storm Cloud is a [[Decepticon]] [[Micromaster]] in the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

'''Storm Cloud''' is like [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], except with less brains, talent, self-control, or chance of success. He always announces his plans, including such brilliance as, "I'm going to replace [[Whisper (Decepticon)|Whisper]] as leader of the [[Air Strike Patrol]]!" In ''front'' of Whisper. Sigh.

==Fiction==
===Dreamwave comics continuity===
====''Micromasters''====

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Air Strike Patrol''' (1989)
Storm Cloud transforms into a lavender and black Dassault Rafale fighter jet.

==External links==
*[http://tfu.info/1989/Decepticon/StormCloud/stormcloud.htm Storm Cloud at TFU.info]

[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]
[[Category: Decepticons]]
[[Category: Micromasters]]

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Talk:Fandom

2007-08-03T18:38:10Z

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That IP address was me. I figured since you have this entry just ''dripping'' with snark including "Bayformers", it should include the inexplicable fan belief that early G1 had more realistic representations of extraterrestrial robots, even though the toy engineers made them to look like the human-built piloted mecha they were in their original toy lines. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 18:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:Oooh. Your edit didn't say anything about extraterrestrials, so, I totally didn't know where you were going. I personally prefer the line more brief, without bringing that part in, but, I don't feel real strongly about it. If you put it back in I might edit the phrasing to make it more to my liking, though. :) --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 19:07, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I ''know'' that someone from Hasbro (Whatshername, the exec who used to work for Power Rangers?) mentioned at some point that they estimate that X% of Transformers toys are bought by adult collectors- and I ''think'' it was 20. That should probably be in here.

I admit, I find the tone of this article unnecessarily harsh. I'd like to see it either moderated, or to have [[Fans]] and [[Fandom]] made two separate articles, with most of the negative aspects assigned to fandom. (Which I think is a fair division of blame- you still hear stories of hardcore transfans who run into the occasional hardcore solo-fan who has no clue about the 'net, conventions etc. The ''really'' nasty negative aspects of fans are almost all ''group behaviors'' that feed on themselves and doesn't exist in individuals if a fan is removed from fandom.)

...oh my god, I just articulated a [[Wikipedia:Romanticism|romantacist]] belief in the fundamental goodness of humanity and the corrupting influence of society on individuals. '''KILL ME NOW! DO IT BEFORE I SPREAD PEACE AND LOVE ALL OVER THE WIKI!''' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:54, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

::::Was that Michelle Fields? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:44, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

::I also greatly dislike the tone of this article. It gives the impression that we here at this Wiki somehow stand separate and apart from the "fandom" which it sarcastically ridicules. Were it up to me, everything on this page but the short History section would be removed. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:46, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

:I find this article totally hilarious and that it contains quite a lot of truths. {{unsigned|210.49.121.202}}

I'm okay with the link. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:36, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I admit to being a little surprised at the negative reactions, as this is all stuff that's already written in various places on this wiki. Still, I recognize that if my only supporter is an anonymous string of numbers, I apparently just have a weird opinion on it. I just talked to Walky about it and he said the sarcastic "accomplishments"list could maybe be preserved if it were just a small part of a large, otherwise focusing-on-the-positive article. That sounds okay to me... I'd kind of like to keep at least ''some'' of the list in there, but, again, I seemingly have no perception of how vicious what I wrote is, so maybe it should be totally scrapped. For now I'll call shenanigans on myself while we decide what to do. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:Keep it. I read some seriously ridiculous crap in the past week that makes this page DESERVE existence. Oh yeah, and it needs a mention of terrible fanfiction in there, since nothing is free from terrible fanfiction.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 05:35, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:: This article is just full of win. Reading it totally made my day. I say keep it. [[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:31, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

:I don't have a problem witht he negativity of the article per-se... it just seems kinda ''down'' on fans unless there's some contrasting material to balance it out. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

::Pretty much all of the snark and negativity on display in the current version is depressingly close to the truth, but I for one would certainly like to see it balanced out with stuff about the more positive aspects of TF fandom. --[[User:TVsGrady|TVsGrady]] 00:17, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

::It currently bears an uncanny resemblence to Encyclopedia Dramatica. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 08:02, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

It has been my observation that other fandoms, particularly the GI Joe fandom (probably owing to TF's close relationship with Joe), think TF fans are absolutely fucking insane. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:48, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
:The Sonic The Hedgehog fandom makes Transformers, G. I. Joe or basically anyone else look like rank amateurs in the insanity department. I am dead serious as hilarious as it might sound. Death threats and talk of character rape is how you say "hello" over there.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 04:52, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
I am in favor of the article staying in its present state, as a reminder against such foolish behavior. It made my day reading the Fandom section, and under the management's rule that "THE FUNNY STAYS.", it should be here. [[User:Ronimus Prime|Ronimus Prime]] 03:51, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I say keep it. It reminds fans not to take themselves too seriously. In fact, maybe even add a note on the whole "Who is Cyclonus" thing. [[User:67.160.13.149|67.160.13.149]] 22:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

This whole page sounds like another one of Walky's idiotic rants against the fandom. Snore. Why don't people make fun of the anti-fans like Walky more often, when the things they say and do are far more ridiculous as they can't be defended by "Well, he's a crazy fan"?

==There==

Now it is fair and balanced.

As this page has, as was pretty much inevitable, now gotten worse and even MORE ueseless, I would like to re-iterate my previous position that everything other than the brief history section should be removed. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:32, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

:If we're going to keep the page at all, I think we should keep our new friend's contribution. Don't edit it or clean it up, leave it at his reading level. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 18:36, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
:The page should never have existed anyway, and since there's no justification for removing this anonymous crybaby's sixth-grade ranting about how the smart kids don't like him without removing the part making fun of the shit-for-brains who make up the loudest part of this and every fandom, I agree that it should be minimized or removed. Any sufficiently official and important aspect of fandom (ie BotCon) has its own place on the wiki anyway. -[[User:67.149.204.113|67.149.204.113]] 18:38, 3 August 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Strafe (G1)

2007-07-04T04:50:29Z

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Cyberjet Strafe's altmode is defintely '''not''' a S-37; while the S-37 and Strafe both have forward-swept wings and two engines, the similarites end there. Strafe has no canards, differnt tails, no tailbooms, a different forward fuselage and a differnt nose.

Furthermore, Strafe's cyberjet toy predates the S-37.
--[[User:Darthfish|Darthfish]] 04:10, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

:I'm not prepared to sit here and defend the Space Case/S-37 ID at the moment, but the Space Case mold absolutely does have canards. -[[User:67.149.204.113|67.149.204.113]] 04:50, 4 July 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Overkill (G1)

2007-07-04T04:47:29Z

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==Customizing class bio==
Shawn's bio for the BotCon customizing class Overkill, in case anybody cares. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 07:07, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
:"Once upon a time, OVERKILL, served the Decepticon cause as a warrior and a spy. While he had a penchant for ranting and raving on the battlefield, and showing off his abilities more than actually using them, he coupld still ba a frighteningly effective warrior. If forced to focus his energies on the task at hand. Occasioanlly, a glitch in his transformation protocols caused him to remain at cassette size in his dinosaur mode. Eventually though, the problem became chronic and then terminal. He was stuck at the size of a rat, and his spark could not even be extracted as his body was too small to safely remove and transplant it.

:Overkill's leader also had a problem... a thorn in his side named Grimlock. Everywhere he went the dinobot was sure to follow. Defeat followed defeat, as he had no soldiers capable of matching Grimlock's ferocity or physical power. Except possibly for Overkill.

:The surgeons used detail scans of Grimlock to contruct a facsimile of his body. They inserted Overkill's cassette form into a special housing built into the chest cavity. Overkill could once again function as a member of the Decepticon military.

:Now more powerfull than ever before, Overkill still tends to fight his enemies beyond the point of defeat, but his leader is seriously considering ripping out his vocal processor... It might be the only way to shut him up."

Can you tell me more about this bio? I assume Shawn is the guy that ran the class... What's his last name? Did he give a copy of this bio to everyone? Was it printed out on a card like the exclusives' bios? I must know these things! --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 02:59, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
:Shawn Tessman is the semi-official FP customizer - he did the Nitrostreak and Razorclaw toys at '06, as well as the Quickslinger custom/article for the club. He also ran the '06 custom class with Rumble and Inferno. I very much doubt there is a card for the bio, but the Overkill (Tessman's) on the art tables had an 8x10" sheet of paper with his TFU-style profile/abilities/weaknesses typed up. -[[User:67.149.204.113|67.149.204.113]] 04:47, 4 July 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Brawl (Movie)

2007-07-04T04:44:36Z

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==Not Megatron comment==

what inspired that? [[USER:GWolf]]
:Many people on various boards who can't get over the fact that movie Megs is neither a gun nor a tank. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

::More specifically, the ones who are ''so'' incapable of getting over it that they form elaborate conspiracy theories about how Megatron will get a tank altmode during the movie and Hasbro decided to call the corresponding toy "Brawl" to keep it a surprise. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 03:29, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Brawl could have easily been named Overkill, if you ask me. His toy has an amount of weapons that border on goofy: His spring loaded cannon on his right arm, the fact that it can swivel 180 to reveal a more accurate to his design Gatling Gun molding, his behind the back secondary guns, his shoulder mounted missile launchers, his twin claw, AND the anti-personal cannon molded onto the twin claw's base. Sheeeeeesh. --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 19:30, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

==Devastator==

apparently, when they screened the movie in australia, little thing became apparent. His name's Devestator?

Opened, or screened? Because if it was a pre-screening, it may have been a rough cut of the movie-- several decepticons' names were changes later in production, and Devastator was an early name for Brawl.

You can count on this being corrected for the actual film release. Roberto Orci has [http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showpost.php?p=368555&postcount=4479 commented on it.] --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 04:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

They called it both a special screening event and a premiere. We rock. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:15, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey I just saw the movie on June 29th in a sneak preview in columbus ohio and they called him Devastator. And it seemed like scenes were missing from the movie

:I'm a little confused as to why "Devastator" isn't noted as a mistaken when the only place it appears is a single subtitle line in the actual movie whilst "Brawl" appears on... everything else ever. I mean, a Michael Bay forced mistake is still a mistake.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 03:52, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

::"Forced mistake"? If he intended to call the tank Devastator and he called it Devastator, I'm not seeing the mistake. It's clearly different from every other appearance, but unless we're going to make a big deal about how purple cartoon Rumble is a mistake, there's no reason to make it sound like someone didn't know what his name was. "Brawl" is clearly the most parsimonious name for the page, but that doesn't change the fact that his name is Devastator in the movie. -[[User:67.149.204.113|67.149.204.113]] 04:44, 4 July 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>