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Talk:Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)

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== TITLE ==

[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-3-title-revealed-the-dark-of-the-moon/19947/ Looks like we've got a title.]

--[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 09:35, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:Can I just go on record that that is a crappy name? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:42, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
::I agree with you, but it comes with many joke opportunities.
::I just.....haven't figured out what they are yet. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 09:53, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:::All I can think of is the Alabama song "Fire In The Night". --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:57, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
::::The ''Dark'' of the moon? Does that mean the movie is going to be just another one of those crappy conspiracy theories saying the US didn't get to the moon first? Does this mean this is hardly going to be a movie about Transformers? This seems pretty likely. Also, that name is just borderline teen novel. Hopefully they'll change everything at the last minute into something relatively better like they did before. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 09:59, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::Here are some jokes we could use.
:::::"Dark Side of the Moon was taken."
:::::"Is it a Twilight crossover?"
:::::(Thank you Seibertron forum posters!) --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 10:01, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::I hadn't even thought about Twilight until Loki said teen novel. Now, I can't get the word "Vampformers" out of my head. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:08, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Does this mean the main pic has to be that shot of John Turturro's as from ROTF?[[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 10:22, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::::No and shame on you for even thinking it. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 10:27, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::One thing I really like from the first 3 movies (86,07,09) wiki articles are the running joke used throughout. Star Wars, the 86 movie, and Empire Strikes Back. I would have thought we would use nothing but Return of the Jedi quotes here, but with this new title part of me thinks it would be great to use nothing but lyrics off the Dark Side of the Moon album. --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 12:36, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::We picked Star Wars and Empire for their respective films because the TF creative teams in those years specifically compared their products to those films--it was us making a joke out of their marketing idea. Though having captions about ROTJ would obviously "complete the set," I'm kind of against us making jokes out of ''our own traditions'' instead of the traditions of the franchise creators. It would seem like we're just jerking off. So I'd actually prefer Pink Floyd too. Of course, given that there's still a year for someone at Paramount to make a comparison between the respective 3rd films, the point may be moot. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 14:02, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::::Actually, using Pink Floyd quotes here would preserve and extend the pattern we have going. 1st Movie/Star Wars Universe quotes, 2nd Movie/Non-SW quotes, 3rd Movie/SW Universe quotes, 4th Movie/Non-SW quotes. Remember that 1st - 4th is in real world terms, ignoring the fact that the 1st movie was not part of the same universe as the current trilogy. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:10, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::::Agreed. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 14:29, 6 October 2010 (EDT)

Should we also put in a note that "dark of the moon" is real phrase and not completely made up? --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 15:35, 6 October 2010 (EDT)

Ahem. IT WAS THE DARK OF THE MOON ON THE SIXTH OF JUNE WITH A KENWORTH HAULIN' LOGS/ CABOVER PETE WITH A REEFER ON AND A JIMMY HAULIN HOGS/ WE WAS HEADED FOR BEAR ON I-1-OH ABOUT A MILE OUTTA SHAKEY TOWN/ I SAID "PIG PEN THIS HERE'S THE RUBBER DUCK, WE'RE ABOUT TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN." -hx at work, this is all the caption you need.
:ARGH! I can't believe I forgot that! I can just see the "bout to put the hammer down" part as an Optimus Prime caption ("Convoy", don't you know. :)). --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:49, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
::I agree with this comment. Also, now we have a title, is it time to add it to the left-hand navigation menu? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:16, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Save it for the Japanese release info. "Ironically enough, not a great big Convoy rockin' through the night." [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:30, 7 October 2010 (EDT)
I don't see any Amazon listings anymore, but the [http://www.transformersmovie.com Transformers movie website] is called "Transformers: Dark of the Moon". (Don't look at the logo, look at the title of the website in the web browser.) Should we lose the "the"? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:43, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
:At the same time, the domain they registered is "transformersthedarkofthemoonmovie.com", which has the leading "The" in it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:00, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
::"transformersdarkofthemoonmovie.com" is also registered by the same party. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:03, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Why would they register it with the "The" if "The" isn't in the title? Whereas I can see why they'd also register it without, because people might accidentally leave it out when typing the url (and also for brand protection). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:57, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Similar reasons apply for registering the name with a superfluous "the". "The dark of the moon" is a preexisting term, people might easily insert it by mistake. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:08, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::IDK, the title of a web page just doesn't seem like enough to me to move the page. The titles on Amazon all had "The" in them, which might have been added mistakenly by whoever added them there, or might not have been. I suspect we should wait for some sort of official unveiling, because if we move the page now, we may well just be moving it back later. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:13, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::According to the teaser trailer, at least in Latin America, the international title of the movie is '''Transformers 3''' (THANK GOD). Should we put it on the article?-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 03:28, 1 January 2011 (EST)
:::::::Are you sure it's the international title, or is it just the title in your area? Either way, it could be added somewhere in there I'm sure. [[User:The Autobot Hero|Hero]] 00:15, 8 May 2011 (EDT)
::::::::Scratch that, the new trailer calls the movie "El lado oscuro de la Luna" (Dark side of the moon), at least the movie looks awesome.-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 19:23, 8 May 2011 (EDT)

== Uh, Walky.... ==

How does "www.transformersdarksideofthemoon.com." confirm that "The Dark of the Moon" is the title? Or did you put in the "side" in that URL by mistake? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:56, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
: Yeah. Mistake. Durrr. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:02, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:: Fixed. I expect this slip-up to happen only 30,000 more times. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:03, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Yeah, mainly I was asking on the off chance that the other things we've found had accidentally left out the "side". --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:07, 6 October 2010 (EDT)

== Accident ==

Does last month's stunt accident where an extra got critically injured belong on this page, and if yes, where?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 14:22, 7 October 2010 (EDT)
:I thought the top of this page said that the wiki does not care about news on the set. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 14:46, 7 October 2010 (EDT)
::This is '''obviously''' not the kind of news the top of the page is talking about. Yes, the accident and lawsuit should be addressed on the page for the movie. Where, I dunno. Probably its own section. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:58, 7 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Maybe "Production", if it ever gets made. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:30, 7 October 2010 (EDT)
::::I thought we usually didn't do production sections though? What if it was placed in it's own section down at the bottom with the notes and trivia and such. [[User:The Autobot Hero|Hero]] 00:20, 8 May 2011 (EDT)

== Disambig? ==

What are we going to use as the disambiguation suffix for this movie? I used (TDOTM) for the Carly artilce I created, but I could see just (DOTM) instead, or perhaps something from out of left field -- [[User:G1MarvelBlaster|G1MarvelBlaster]] 23:04, 7 October 2010 (EDT)
:(TDOTM) would be the most consistent. But (TF3) would be cool. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 23:22, 7 October 2010 (EDT)
::The only other franchise I can find with an initial "the" is [[The Headmasters]], which has the disambiguation suffix (Headmasters). Going by that, I would say (DOTM). --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:20, 8 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Considering Hasbro applied for the trademark "Dark of the Moon" without "the", I'm favoring (DOTM) too.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 08:05, 13 October 2010 (EDT)
::::(TDOTM) is a horrible disambig. I prefer (DOTM). --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 08:11, 13 October 2010 (EDT)

== The Superfund Armored Truck as Sixshot and Rosenbaurer as Inferno ==

November-21=Michael Bay confirms the Superfund Armored Truck as Sixshot.
:Hi. Cite a source. Sign your posts. Thank you. Goodbye. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 08:22, 21 November 2010 (EST)

== Should we add Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin? ==

Well, should we?

-ThiAthEhn
: And [[Walter Cronkite]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:56, 10 December 2010 (EST)

::Well, the question is, will they actually be ''in'' the film? This teaser feels very much like the teaser for the first movie, in that we may see only a little, or possibly even none, of the actual content of it in the film. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:57, 10 December 2010 (EST)

:::And we don't know if (though unlikely) they are main cast. And save their page for another day. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 12:00, 10 December 2010 (EST)
::::I dunno, I think all promotional stuff still counts as "fiction" under our mandate. While they shouldn't be on the main cast list, I wouldn't be opposed to making articles on them and making some mention of them on the article. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:16, 10 December 2010 (EST)
:::::And in any case, we already have a [[Neil Armstrong]] page, per [[Ghosts of Yesterday]]. So I'll ask my question here: how much do we want to put into that article? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 14:42, 10 December 2010 (EST)
::::::I'm tired of seeing useless perpetually incomplete pages for trivial as fuck foil characters that usually were only ''mentioned'' in the movie or even movie novelization in question and have no real story signifigance at all. I respectfully say nay to more character pages like this and I would recommend deleting such pages that are already created, such as the Mohammud page. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 11:14, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::Then that's really too friggin' bad, because ''that's what this wiki is for.'' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:28, 14 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::You really want your wiki to go to hell, to run rampant with the constant mindless page creations of anonymous IP adresses? You made one of the qualifications to delete a page "We are not a dictonary," but now you want to contradict yourself. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 11:32, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::Uh, we've been making pages like this since the very beginning of the wiki back in 2006. At no point has this site ever succumbed to your insane scenario. So pardon me if my eyes roll so hard they pop out of my skull. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:36, 14 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::What you said officially makes it okay to make pages like the pages made by anons from the start, so now you have put yourself in the situation where now a whole lot of anons who look around without editing will get that idea and tell all their friends about it and soon you have too many pages for Detour to put the speedy template on. Sure, in the past this has never happened, but now there is the possibility. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 11:39, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::Now that we're going to continue doing the exact same thing we've been doing for the past four years, suddenly it's all going to be different now and ruin us. Got it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:41, 14 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::::It's not that you've been doing the same thing all along, it's now you've said that doing what has been described now is alright and acceptable, and you seem to be ignoring/avoiding that. Besides, of course the consequences are not going to affect you immediately, so you shouldn't just assume that if the ramifications aren't immediate then there aren't any at all. Your 16-year-old level of sarcasm and quickness to attempt to avoid a situation is what makes people not like you. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 11:47, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::I'm not ignoring anything, because I shouldn't have to distinguish for you the differences between making a page for a guy featured heavily in a trailer for a blockbuster Transformers film and between making a page for "floor." The difference seems to be obvious to everyone else. Do you have any other recourse to people disagreeing with you that isn't calling them an X-year-old? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:58, 14 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::::::The reason I used the X-year-old argument is because that is what I usually only see here that warrants a recourse from me, what with the "Um, yes it does" and "pardon me if my eyes roll so hard they pop out of my skull" statements. I understand now that you have from the start always had a staff that can make the distinction between what is too little information and what isn't and make decisions based on that. I don't think that most people know what "too little information" is (including myself), so maybe that could be something you could put into the FAQ of the wiki for anons that want to be good editors but aren't and so people like me don't go anally retentive apeshit and get in heated arguments with the wiki's administrator. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 12:10, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::::When the sole basis of your argument is "tons of anons will make bad pages", it's kind of hard to do anything but roll one's eyes at it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::Anons will make useless pages regardless of policies. I truly doubt making a page about Buzz Aldrin is suddenly going to open the floodgates for pages about grass, the birds, the bees, the peanut butter jelly time banana and Zartan's male pattern baldness. Your apocalypse scenario is ridiculous to say the least. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:01, 14 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::They exist in the Transformers universe. Why shouldn't we have pages for them? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:17, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::Saying something like, "What would Jesus do?" is not making them in-universe. Besides, the pages always stay shitty and are just bytes of worthless space-taking crap. What if the wiki made a whole page for every single obscure character that happened to be seen in a passing glance of the camera? The whole wiki would be have millions of pages of crap that nobody cares about. Besides, if somebody wanted to read about Buzz aldrin, they could just go to wikipedia. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 11:21, 14 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::Um, yes it does. If someone mentions Jesus in Transformers, that means that Jesus is in the Transformers universe? That'd be like if there was a standalone story where someone mentions how Bumblebee is a great scout, but Bumblebee doesn't appear otherwise. Does that mean Bumblebee doesn't exist? And there's a difference between making an article for someone who has no name, personality, or role, and making an article for someone who has a name and has a role hinted at. (We wouldn't make an article for a generic with no dialogue who's just there in the background, but we WOULD make an article for Bumblebee since he was named and we know that he's a scout.) And what if someone was curious about what Buzz Aldrin did in the Transformers world? Wikipedia wouldn't have that. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:24, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::You know very fucking well what I am talking about, don't act like a ten-year-old. I do not mean that important characters fiction wise (as in appearing in more than one piece of fiction in one universe) shouldn't have pages, they do have pages that account what they are important in. I mean not have pages about characters like the [[Muhammad]] or [[Jesus]] page that have no significance whatsoever in any piece of fiction. If they were more important in another piece of fiction, then they could have pages. What I want is quality control that isn't headed by ten-year-olds or anal people. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 11:29, 14 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::But they do have significance. A character mentions them and gives some details. Small significance, but they exist. When I said "standalone", I was referring to a whole new universe, where we don't know if Bumblebee exists or not. Then, someone confirms he exists, so we make a page for him. How am I acting like a ten-year-old?
:::::::::::(I WILL admit there's a line. Remember "History vid Megatron", anyone?) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:34, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::I think someone needs a timeout. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:02, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::I remember "history vid Megatron"! According to a history video in Animated, he was a Decepticon during Animated's Great War. He looked like he commanded at least a platoon or something. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:19, 14 December 2010 (EST)

== Astronomical/Apollo Errors in Trailer ==

The trailer seems to suggest that, after it landed, Apollo 11 passed around to the dark side of the moon, or out of radio range, or something. This is, of course, nonsense, since the moon doesn't rotate with respect to Earth. If the trailer counts as canon, do we want to start an errors section for this? [[User:JW|JW]] 14:59, 13 December 2010 (EST)
:I think it is canon. That was strange. That looked like a real clip from Walter Cronkite, but maybe it was spliced together from different reports. Or maybe it was actually from before the landing when they were still in orbit. They sort of undercut the impact of the radio silence bit when mission control was still able to communicate with them. Maybe it was Sector 7 technology? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:19, 13 December 2010 (EST)
:: My reading of the trailer was that the astronauts WALKED to the far side of the moon once the feed was cut, explored, and then returned all within 21 minutes. Which is just as ridiculous. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:24, 13 December 2010 (EST)
:::You could be right. I was thrown off by one image where they were right next to the lander when they were "dark on the rock". That was probably out of sequence. Then again, being a movie trailer, the whole thing may be various images and dialog thrown together without regard to sequence. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:34, 13 December 2010 (EST)
::::But ''did'' they go to the dark side? I took "dark on the rock" to mean that communications were nil, that they were "in the dark", as it were. A figurative phrase, not literal. After all - you can SEE the Earth in the sky behind the spaceship! That couldn't be the dark side! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 16:02, 13 December 2010 (EST)
:::::Cronkite says "We now have had confirmation of loss of signal from Apollo 11. Apollo 11 is on the far side of the moon". - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:07, 13 December 2010 (EST)
::::::"Apollo 11" is the name of the mission, which involved the Columbia rocketship and the Lunar module that landed. The Columbia was in lunar orbit while Buzz and Neil were on the surface of the planet. The Columbia part of Apollo 11 definitely could have been on the far side of the moon, unless it, was, like, circling the exact circumference of the moon that we can see from Earth. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:13, 13 December 2010 (EST)
:::::Mind, the actual "dark side of the moon" where the Autobot spaceship had crashed sure had a lot of friggin' light about and plenty of crisp shadows. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:09, 13 December 2010 (EST)
::::::I tried to find out if the lander bounced signals off the ''Columbia'' but my Google skills failed me. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:18, 13 December 2010 (EST)
::::::I'm pretty sure the whole "Dark of the Moon", "dark on the rock" thing is figurative, to both describe the mystery on the Moon and NASA's real reason for traveling there, rather than literally "the ''Ark'' crashed on the dark side of the moon, and the dark side of the moon is a short walk from Tranquility Base." [http://science.howstuffworks.com/lunar-landing2.htm This article] suggests that ''Columbia'' served as the communications link between ''Eagle'' and Earth. Wish I could find a better article or source, but my google-fu is not great. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:50, 22 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::Even taking that as figurative, the trailer shows the Earth close to the horizon, when it should be nearly directly overhead. It also appears to move between shots only a short time apart. [[User:JW|JW]] 06:55, 22 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::Yea, it doesn't look like an actual error, except the movie makers wanted the Earth in every shot (I don't blame them). But the trailer doesn't make it clear that the ''Columbia'' is a communications link or anything like that so it is confusing. If it wasn't on the far side of the Moon, I don't see how they could have kept it secret. Anyone with a big enough telescope would be able to see it, I would think. At least observatories. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:19, 22 December 2010 (EST)
The term "Dark side of the moon" was a misnomer even before Transformers got hold of it. The dark side of the moon refers to the side of the moon that always faces away from Earth. But it gets just as much sunlight as the near side. It should rightly be called the FAR side of the moon.[[Special:Contributions/180.176.116.4|180.176.116.4]] 23:45, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

== MEGATRON IN DARK OF THE MOON ==
I have been looking around the internet about Transformers 3, and everywhere says that Megatron is returning for Transformers 3 as a Mack Titan Tanker Truck, I know that Michael Bay hasen't released any news yet on any Decepticons apart from Shockwave, but if Hasbro didn't release the pictures of the Megatron tanker truck toy, how the hell did they get on the internet, even Leader Class Ironhide pictures are around. Does anyone think that megatron should be added to the Decepticons?
Thanks Plo Koon 1
:It's most likely a stolen prototype from a factory, and NO, Megatron '''will not be added until Hasbro or Michael Bay or some other official source says he's in'''. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:42, 27 December 2010 (EST)
:Kindly go away and never return. This is all you do, come here once a movie is in production and either add stolen info, or rant on talk pages about how we should add stolen info, and frankly I am sick of it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:13, 27 December 2010 (EST)
::Why don't you go look up some more information and get adding to the page instead of waiting for Michael Bay's and Hasbro's precious information. {{unsigned|Plo Koon 1}}
:::Because we only use OFFICIAL information. If it doesn't come from Hasbro, Bay or another official source, it ISN'T information as far as we are concerned.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:45, 27 December 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah, that's a great idea, let's post every single thing anonymous people post on Wikipedia, that's the best way to do research. Or post about stolen toys, thieves are always the best source of info. And then we'll have to take it down, because it turns out to be wrong. Or get crap from Hasbro, because it's stolen. That'll work out great. This Wiki is interested in getting things ''right'', not ''first''. The policy and the reasons for it have been explained quite clearly. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 16:53, 27 December 2010 (EST)

== Ashton Kutcher ==

Just noticed, along with Ben Kingsley theres a spoof of the Heidi Montag audition by Ashton Kutcher. I can't put a link in though, as i have no idea how to.[[User:Burnout|Burnout]] 11:40, 20 January 2011 (EST)Burnout

Just paste it!—[[User:TOM|TOM]] 13:05, 23 January 2011 (EST)

== THE FIRST offical Images for DOTM Toys ==
Are these Officals right? http://www.asmzine.com/geekly-rewind/2011/01/28/toy-fair-uk-images-of-starscream-and-ironhide/ If so then its time to add these pics to Starscream and Ironhide Pages and make the DOTM Toyline Page well that its if anybody here considers these officals—[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 28 January 2011 (EST)
:Well, the article ''claims'' the pics are from Hasbro, but we better hold off until we're sure (as well as hold off on creating any 'MechTech' articles) - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:41, 28 January 2011 (EST)
::ASM would be the last site in the world to lie about that. They're official, and they were delivered to most every Transformers website. I wouldn't be surprised if we got them too, but I'm not [[User:Monzo|Monzo]], so I couldn't tell you. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:48, 28 January 2011 (EST)
:::Yes, we received the images from Hasbro as well. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:23, 29 January 2011 (EST)
::::Thank You, Jesus, we finally got toy pics that aren't stolen prototypes! :D - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 14:19, 29 January 2011 (EST)

== Ratchet and Ironhide ==
i think we should add ratchet and Ironhide in the cast and character list sicne the 2 were in the trailer and the trailer like an Offical Source—[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]

== Laserbeak (?) ==

A bird-robot was also in the trailer.--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 19:51, 9 February 2011 (EST)
:Looked more dragon-y than bird-y to me. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 20:03, 9 February 2011 (EST)
::Either way, the wiki isn't much of a place for speculation so whoever it is is moot until we get an official toy listing or promotional render. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:07, 9 February 2011 (EST)
:::Indeed, Detour. It could be Laserbeak, or Buzzsaw, or something new. Could it be Laserbeak? Most likely, yes. However, like Detour said, TFwiki.net doesn't deal with "most likely". Be patient, folks; we'll find out soon enough (the movie will be out in five months and we might find out officially before then). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:40, 9 February 2011 (EST)
::::Whatever. If the toy we've seen resembling it is the same character, it must have two modes: condor mode and dragon mode. - [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 19:35, 13 March 2011 (EST)

The same character (or an identical one) in the game is confirmed as Laserbeak. Is that sufficient enough to list him as a film character?
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 2:58 PM, 27 March 2011 A.D.
:Confirmed where? By whom? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:45, 27 March 2011 (EDT)
::Well, it WAS on the page for the DOTM game, but it isn't anymore, so I'm guessing that was incorrect.
::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 5:04 PM, 27 March 2011 A.D.
:::I removed it from there as there was no source listed. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:10, 27 March 2011 (EDT)

== New guys? ==

Just a question. From the Superbowl trailer you can see that there are some "already dead" guys. I mean Barricade°(here it isnt really certain), Long Haul and (desert) Brawl. Should these be added into the list of appeared characters, since they were'''officially revealed''' via trailer? --[[Special:Contributions/194.228.147.9|194.228.147.9]] 21:12, 11 February 2011 (EST)
:No. Just because they look like the old characters doesn't mean they are. More there's no reason to list nameless characters we know nothing about. Be patient. Plenty of time after the movie is out. We're in no rush.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 21:19, 11 February 2011 (EST)
::(That was not Barricade, but Sideways. Well, *a* Sideways.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:01, 20 February 2011 (EST)
:You recognized Long Haul and Brawl? You mean like how [[Grindor (ROTF)|we recognized Blackout in ROTF?]] --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 12:04, 20 February 2011 (EST)
:: Because of Hasbro's action figures, we knew that there was a Blackout lookalike named "Grindor" from the start. Until Hasbro reveals some alternate names for these guys, I think we can feel safe keeping them under the umbrella of their known names, like we did and do with ROTF's Constructicons. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:22, 20 February 2011 (EST)
::: Long Haul and Brawl ''do'' have same-body-type buddies from the toyline--Payload and Tankor respectively. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 12:33, 20 February 2011 (EST)
:::: Yes, but all of the green Long Hauls are accounted for on Long Haul's page. This is just another green Long Haul, and we should treat it as such until we know differently. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:42, 20 February 2011 (EST)

== Crankcase, Ratchet, etc ==

Dudes, if we have a trailer and a Toy Fair, and we see vehicle modes that we know belong to movie characters, and we see those vehicle modes that belong to movie characters ''transform into the robot modes of said movie characters'' I really think we need to get beyond the "we pretend we don't know anything" schtick. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:59, 20 February 2011 (EST)
: Also, the whole "what if this is not the real Crankcase and the real Crankcase is elsewhere" is an argument that ''predicates'' on the idea that the "real" Crankcase is in the film. And if there IS no "real" Crankcase in the film, then this "generic" BECOMES the "real" Crankcase. Either way, he's in the damn film. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:07, 20 February 2011 (EST)
:: FurtherFURTHERmore, the fact that the counterargument has gone from "it's just an SUV" to "it's just a robot" to "it's just a robot mode that looks like Crankcase's" as this goes on just feels like this is a counterargument based not on facts but on obstinate reluctance. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:12, 20 February 2011 (EST)
::: And to put a final nail in the coffin, there were several [[Long Haul (ROTF)|Long Haul]]s in ''Revenge of the Fallen'', but they were all accounted for on Long Haul's page as Long Haul. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:16, 20 February 2011 (EST)
::: I think if this passes based on this argument, then everyone in charge of this site better remember this when others are putting up information using the same reasoning. [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 15:23, 20 February 2011 (EST)

== New Chevy Beat/Spark 'Bots (?) ==

Nelson said that a Chevy Spark spotted on set was not Skids, but a ''new'' character.--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 20:11, 25 February 2011 (EST)
:We'll get to it when '''''official information comes out'''''. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:30, 25 February 2011 (EST)
::So, Nelson isn't a trustable source?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 17:19, 4 March 2011 (EST)
:::There's literally not enough information to do anything with. What do you want, a page for ''Unnamed Chevy Spark character who might just be one of the Twins, we aren't sure yet''? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 17:46, 4 March 2011 (EST)
::::Those Sparks were seen in trailer, but I still don't believe non-appearance of the Twins being misinformation. Characters were said to be cut off from the film, but the vehicles not. --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 9:24, 2 May 2011 (EST)
:::::If their vehicles appear, the characters are in the film. Please don't revert again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:31, 2 May 2011 (EDT)
:::::CAJH, considering how much Bay lied about Megatron not coming back in ROTF, and his (and Nelson's) claims about the Twins not coming back in DOTM (despite all evidence to the contrary), we're better off including them based upon what we can actually see rather than they tell us. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:33, 2 May 2011 (EDT)

== Is Mirage really in DOTM??? ==

I saw that Mirage was added to the cast list (as of 11:09 pm EST on April 8th, 2011). Besides the Speed Star toy of Mirage, is there any actual evidence that the red Ferrari in DOTM is Mirage? I think the addition is a bit premature (I was about to undo the addition, but I thought I would play it safe). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 23:13, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
:We're not exactly sure yet, so leaving him off for now is probably for the best. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:28, 5 May 2011 (EDT)

==Brains==

Some believe that Brains might become the Einstein-Mercedes-bot, but I don't think so. Bay confirmed Brains being small in film too. What would you think that Einstein-bot be, if he's not Brains? --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 12:53, 18 April 2011 (EDT)
:More than likely just an early head design for Wheeljack. But we'll know for sure when the movie's out or more promotional renders are revealed. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:00, 18 April 2011 (EDT)
:: Brains is in the "Rising Storm" comic prequel. He's a tiny hatchling guy that Bumblebee and Sam escort. Wheeljack is a separate dude who looks like Wheeljack. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:23, 18 April 2011 (EDT)
:::And if Wheeljack ever is that Mercedes-bot, it's very understandable that he would be different in film. Shockwave and Sentinel were too different in comic adaptations. And do not forget Mirage, though it's not officially confirmed, if he is the Ferrari-bot or not. And Brains we'll see in film looks definitely different than Brains we saw in comics.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 14:28, 19 April 2011 (EDT)

== Darkside Moon ==

I am a fan of these two titles because they have that "crazy" factor to them. That said...

I notice there's exactly one dot in those there katakana. I don't suppose it's actually "Darkside Moon", eh? You see "Darkside" here and there, really. [[Special:Contributions/174.111.86.22|174.111.86.22]] 09:53, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
:Maybe. could be. Anyone else think it should be changed to "Darkside Moon" as opposed to the "Dark Side Moon" title that I originally wrote? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:04, 20 May 2011 (EDT)

== Trailer ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-trailer-172021/ It also seems that Simmons lost a leg, and there are many Crankcases--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 19:46, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
:I think he broke his leg, but anyway people can see the video for themselves so we don't need to mention stuff in it here. If you want to discuss the content of the video, you should take it to a forum. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:48, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

== Washington Post thing ==

That video is from 2010. Why did you date it April 30, 2011? Also, it's probably too plot point spoilery for us to use. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:36, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

== Avon sweepstakes ==

Looks like Avon's having a contest to meet Patrick Dempsey at the premier of DotM. Link [http://www.avon.com/PatrickDempsey here]. Worth mentioning on the page? (Started last week if you want to add this to the timeline) -[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 09:13, 3 May 2011 (EDT)
:I personally don't think it should be added to the ''film'' article of the DOTM franchise, but this is unique in that Avon is having this contest without (as far as I know) having any merchandise tie-ins. Perhaps it could be noted on the main DOTM franchise article page as well as on the Patrick Demsey article. Either way, this is note-worthy. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 09:28, 3 May 2011 (EDT)

== Hatchet is he,in the film? ==

Is it just me or should we add him because somebody add the "more info will pop up in July,1,2011" box-thing,just sayin' - [[User:Dinodigger97|Dinodigger97]],May-4-2011
:If you mean Ratchet, he is already in the cast list. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:33, 4 May 2011 (EDT)
::Actually, there's a new Decepticon named [[Hatchet]], so I think that's who he meant. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 21:05, 4 May 2011 (EDT)
:::D'oh! Sorry, hard to keep up with all these new dudes. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:30, 4 May 2011 (EDT)
::::To answer your question Dinodigger97, no, we don't know. I'm not sure why Hatchet's article has a fiction section already, as there has been no indication that he is in the movie. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:34, 5 May 2011 (EDT)

== Amazon comic spoilers ==

Could we please not get all excited about the spoiled comic adaptation pages on Amazon and rush off to the wiki? I think CAJH even cited Alientraveller's edits with a flickr account (with, I presume, pages of the comic). I wasn't about to spoil myself to look, so I just reverted everything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:33, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
:For that matter, the comic adaptations of the movie are usually done from earlier versions of the script, and aren't guaranteed to reflect the movie itself. If we ''must'' document every little nugget, those spoilers would more properly go on the comic adaptation's page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 11:42, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
::Sorry guys, I concur as Amazon.com has apparently removed those pages (and TFW followed suit). Just a shame I still can't find a source to confirm the name of Shockwave's pet, or Dempsey's character for this page. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 11:45, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
:::... did you just mention a spoiler? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 12:22, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
::::Maybe the comic adaptation has little differences with the film. But some elements like rest of the characters can't be different. But ok then. Let's wait at least until the release date. --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 19:43, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
:::::Why couldn't the characters be different? Characters might appear in fight scenes in the comic with names and personalities yet be represented in the film only by an indistinguishable mass of duplicates of someone else. Thus, the [[Dread (subgroup)|Dreads]] in the movie might all be [[Crankcase (DOTM)|Crankcase]] doppelgangers but [[Hatchet]] might appear in the comic. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:57, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
::::::Anyway, my main point for the revert was that the pages of the comics were apparently chock full of spoilers that were not supposed to be revealed yet (hence sites like TFW having to remove their news post). And even if Hasbro/Bay/Paramount didn't care (except they do), the wiki has a policy of avoiding overt spoilers for fiction until the release date. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:12, 5 May 2011 (EDT)

== Dreads ==

Not trying to start a discussion with anybody, just pointing out: We already saw that there's a Black Dodge Charger, who's NOT Barricade, also we've seen that Hatchet is a Dread, and he has three other chances of appearing --[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 14:19, 11 May 2011 (EDT)
:What? Seen what? Why are you pointing this out here? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:34, 14 May 2011 (EDT)
::If you have something against this post, I have no problem in erasing it --[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 18:06, 22 May 2011 (EDT)

== Just wondering... ==

The 2007 TF film article used quotes from the 1986 movie, should I replace those with one of the prequels of Star Wars. (or, to be more specific, Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith) --[[User:Kaon Prisoner|Kaon Prisoner]] 16:27, 20 May 2011 (EDT)
: Do not alter the captions on the 2007 film article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:29, 20 May 2011 (EDT)

Or maybe other stuff from Ep 4. --[[User:Kaon Prisoner|Kaon Prisoner]] 16:30, 20 May 2011 (EDT)

At Walky: OK, I ''will'' [Not alter the quotes].

But still, quite stupid to quote the 1986 movie. --[[User:Kaon Prisoner|Kaon Prisoner]] 16:34, 20 May 2011 (EDT)
: I've got an idea. Call our efforts stupid one more time and you can have a quite stupid ban. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:39, 20 May 2011 (EDT)

== June 28 release? ==

I followed the link given for the release date, and that dateline site says it's coming out June 2'''9''', not 28. Is there something somewhere that suggests it's coming out on Tuesday instead? [[User:Magaroja|Magaroja]] 18:02, 20 May 2011 (EDT)

== Capone's AICN Review ==
Any thoughts regarding the first review of the movie?[[User:Ryantherebel|Ryantherebel]] 16:02, 23 May 2011 (EDT)

== Foreign names ==
Serbian name for Dark of the Moon is: Transformers 3: Dark of the Moon, the only one with the "accurate" translation yet. Put it on the page in the Foreign names.[[User:DarkCon|DarkCon]] 12:57, 1 June 2011 (EDT)
:That's the translation, but what is it in actual Serbian?--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 07:29, 1 June 2011 (EDT)
:Transformers 3: Tama Meseca--[[User:DarkCon|DarkCon]] 20:04, 1 June 2011 (EDT)

== Mirage ==
Should the whole mirage is not the ferrari be on this article? [[Special:Contributions/68.197.232.80|68.197.232.80]] 15:48, 2 June 2011 (EDT)

Ratchet (Movie)/toys

2011-05-17T00:54:07Z

68.197.232.80:

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Ratchet's a doctor, dammit! And has a lot of toys!
==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:LegendsRatchet.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Hasbro might have fixed the green color, but nobody told them to fix the hue settings for the official promo photos.]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Legends Class, 2007)
**''Japanese name:'' '''EZ Collection Ratchet'''

:An inexpensive, small-scale version of Ratchet, he remains relatively faithful to his vehicle mode (though highly simplified), but transforms very differently due to his simplicity. In robot mode he has a faux truck-front chest that's more faithful to the CGI design than the Voyager toy's chest, but the rest of his robot mode is (understandably) inaccurate and limited in articulation.

: His spare tire, mounted on the rear end of his roof in vehicle mode, is actually a free-spinning wheel just like the normal four (albeit with a somewhat stiffer joint), and the same size as the front wheels... meaning that, in theory, it could be used as an ''actual'' spare tire.

[[Image:Movie legends ratchet colorvariants.jpg|left|250px|thumb|He's feeling a little green around the manifolds.]]
:The original production run of the toy sported a significantly wrong shade of green. A running change variant that quickly replaced the original version corrected the error, now sporting the same shade of green as the Voyager Class toy.<ref>[http://www.thetf.net/forum_posts-TID-10086-PN-1.htm Comparison images of both color variants of Legends Ratchet]</ref> Still, the color variant was not limited to the US market, as both versions also popped up in Europe. Japan, however, got stuck with the original, off-color version.
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[[Image:Movie2007 LegendsRatchet VS Brawl.jpg|right|300px|thumb|The Doctor vs. the Warrior.]]
*'''Rescue Ratchet vs. Decepticon Brawl''' (Legends "Allspark Battles" two-pack, 2007)

:Released as part of the ''[[AllSpark Power|AllSpark Battles]]'' [[subline imprint|refresh]] of the Movie toyline, Legends class Rescue Ratchet is, naturally, a redeco of the previously-released Legends class Ratchet in his white ''Generation 1''-inspired colors. He comes packed with an all-new sculpt Legends class Brawl.
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====Voyager Class toys====
[[Image:Movie Voyager Ratchet toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|This green is both [[Neon|NEON]] ''and'' [[Playskool|PLAYSKOOL]]!]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Voyager Class, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MA-02'''
**''Accessories:'' Roof rack/claw

:Voyager ''Movie'' Ratchet transforms into a [[wikipedia:Hummer_H2|AM General Hummer H2]], customised as a fire search and rescue vehicle. Ratchet is also missing significant amounts of paint applications, with unpainted wheels, emergency tools, and light details, as well as an underpainted face, resulting in a rather monochromatic toy.

:During transformation, unfolding his legs will activate his [[Automorph Technology|Automorphing]] feature, which folds out his kneepads and feet, and 'bulges' out two small panels along his inner calves. The only Autobot toy to not feature a ranged weapon, Ratchet's right forearm unfolds into an axe (based upon a weapon concept study), and the removable rollbar/roof rack can either be mounted on his left arm as a shield/claw, or stored on his back.

:Oddly, although Ratchet's thumbs are articulated, space is so restricted that they are all but useless. His left thumb can only move a millimeter due to his wrist armour getting in the way. His right thumb does have more space to move, but pushing it will invariably disengage the fold-out axe from his forearm.
:Ratchet can attach (loosely) a [[Mini-Con]] on the rollbar/roof rack, and can hold a standard weapon via the shield/claw mount.{{-}}

[[Image:Movie Voyager RescueRatchet.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Hasbro proving that anything looks better as a slavish G1 homage.]]
*'''Rescue Ratchet''' (Voyager Class, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Roof rack/claw

:Rescue Ratchet is an extensive [[redeco]] based in part upon ''Generation 1'' [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet's]] [[Marvel Comics]] appearance. Aside from the deco and name change, the toy is otherwise the same in functionality to the previous Voyager class release.

:Oddly for a deco described as being ''more'' likely for the type of vehicle, Rescue Ratchet's vehicle mode—a fire search and rescue vehicle—is prominently labeled "AMBULANCE" on the doors and the hood.

: This same deco was adapted and used as an alternate for Ratchet in the multiplayer mode for the [[Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen]] game.
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[[Image:Movie Voyager Premium Ratchet.jpg|right|300px|thumb|And yet they've done nothing to put better coloring on my legs....]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Best Buy exclusive "Premium Series" Voyager Class, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Roof rack/claw

:Ratchet was one of the first figures in the ''Premium Series'', released on October 16th, 2007 exclusively at Best Buy for the launch of the ''Transformers'' movie DVD. Ratchet's main plastic has been changed to a metallic yellow, with an additional coat of metallic yellow paint over the top of those parts (and others), resulting in a much more accurate colour scheme in relation to the actual ''Movie'' character and prop vehicle.

:Ratchet was presented in robot mode, within a special display package similar in shape to the packaging for the Hasbro release of ''Generation 1'' ''Masterpiece'' [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. Even though Hasbro officially considers him as part of the Premium Series, this is not indicated anywhere on the packaging, as the Premium Series wasn't officially announced until ''after'' Ratchet and [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] had already been released to stores.
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====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:FABRatchet.jpg|right|300px|thumb|An axe that shoots missiles. Seriously.]]
*'''Axe Attack Autobot Ratchet''' (Fast Action Battler, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''QC-03'''
**''Accessories:'' Missile
:[[Fast Action Battlers]] Ratchet is a small, deluxe-sized figure with limited articulation and a simple transformation. He features a spring-loaded missile-firing axe, a "robot punch" [[gimmick]], and [[Automorph Technology|automorphing]]. To activate the "robot punch", one must twist and release Ratchet's torso. An inner spring will cause it to snap back to (more or less) anatomical position. His front grille can be rotated 180 degrees, which powers the automorphing feature, and causes Ratchet's front fenders, doors, and roof to separate during transformation from vehicle to robot and form his shoulders and arms (and vice versa). Unfortunately, this sacrifices [[Show-accuracy|show accuracy]], as the grille ends up ''right-side up'', while the rest of his [[Alternate mode|alt mode]] cab remains upside-down.

:In vehicle mode the missile stows handily underneath Ratchet's chassis.
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[[Image:Mov2007-toy RescueTorchRatchet.JPG|right|300px|thumb|]]
*'''Rescue Torch Ratchet''' (Fast Action Battler, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:Rescue Torch Ratchet is a Generation 1 [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]-themed redeco of Axe Attack Ratchet, with a deco similar to Voyager Class Rescue Ratchet.
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====Cyber Slammers====
[[Image:CyberSlammersRatchet.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Even the Throttlebots didn't want me.]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Cyber Slammer, 2007)

:Cyber Slammers Ratchet is a cute little super-deformed Hummer H2 that transforms into a cute little super-deformed Autobot medical officer. 'Slam' his robot mode down into van mode and he rolls along, slowly transforming back up into vehicle mode. Like most Cyber Slammers, Ratchet manages to cram most of his vehicle mode's major details into a compact, super-deformed version of that mode.
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===Titanium Series===
[[Image:Movie TitaniumRM Ratchet.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Ratchet rejects your measly attempts to paint his face.]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (3" Robot Masters, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Movie-style Autobot sigil display stand

:''Titanium'' Ratchet is a die-cast metal and plastic figurine, with an accurate sculpt based on the CG model owing to the fact he doesn't need to transform. Being a figurine, he only has articulation in his shoulders, neck and waist. For some odd reason most of his face is left unpainted. Ratchet comes with a Movie-style Autobot symbol display stand.
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===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:Ratchet ROTF Legends toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Just as Don and Andrew foretold!]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Legends, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''EZ-07'''

:This Legends class Ratchet is a tan [[redeco]] (sigh) of Ratchet's 2007 Legends class Toy.

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:ROTF_deluxe_Ratchet.jpg|thumb|300px|My toy sucks.]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Deluxe, 2009/2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-28'''
**''Accessories:'' EMP Blaster, EMP Blast Missile

:Deluxe class Ratchet is an all-new mold that is more accurate to Ratchet's final robot mode design when compared to his Voyager class toys. However, his vehicle mode has been changed to something akin to a military Humvee, albeit in Ratchet's distinctive emergency rescue regalia. He also features a new "launching [[Electromagnetic pulse|EMP]] blast missile"-launcher weapon that resembles the arm-mounted machine gun that Ratchet uses in the films. Ratchet's [[Mech Alive]] feature is unlocked when the missile launcher is plugged into his arm, in which gearing moves pieces into place around the weapon as it's locked into place. His chest also has an [[Automorph Technology|Automorph]]-like rearrangement of his chest-mounted headlights into robot mode configuration as his abdomen is pushed down into place. Ratchet's head has the peculiar feature of having two [[ball joint]] sockets stacked one atop the other- there is the shallow socket that his head is set at in the package which allows superior mobility, then a deeper one that limits head movement but conceals his neck joint. The deeper socket can be used by pushing the head down. Sadly, a [[Variant|running change]] in his design eliminates one of the ball joints, making his head basically unposeable.

: The missile launcher weapon can also be attached to Deluxe [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]], echoing the interactive features of their ''[[Ratchet (Animated)|Animated]]'' [[Lockdown (Animated)|counterparts']] toys. Likewise, Lockdown's engine can plug into Ratchet's rooftop, but that looks kinda doofy.

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====Voyager Class toys====
[[Image:ROTF_Voyager_DesertRatchet_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|What the hell, Hasbro? You couldn't afford the other half of the emergency stripe?]]
*'''Desert Tracker Ratchet''' (Voyager, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-08'''
**''Accessories:'' Roof rack/claw

:Ratchet is a barely redecoed version of the Voyager class Ratchet toy released in 2007, the only new decos being the change of his black plastic to dark grey and a "dirt" spray on his doors and shoulders. In a probable effort to cut costs, Hasbro has removed several decos that existed on the 2007 toy, such as half of the Emergency stripe on the sides of the vehicle, the red paint for the light bar and the turn signal lights.

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[[Image:ROTFSurfaceToAirShowdown.jpg|thumb|300px|Oh. So Desert Tracker Ratchet was desert-tracking Grindor? Okay.]]
*'''Surface To Air Showdown''' (Voyager class 2-pack, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' Roof rack/claw

:A [[Costco]]-[[exclusive]] two-pack featuring Ratchet squaring off against [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]], strangely reminiscent of Ratchet's fight with [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] in the [[Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers: Autobots]] Nintendo DS game. Both toys remain unchanged from their individual retail release.
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====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:ROTF_FAB_Ratchet_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|Lol @ Voyager, I have more paint apps than you! ]]
*'''Beam Blast Autobot Ratchet''' (Fast Action Battler, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:This toy is a redeco of the 2007 Fast Action Battlers Autobot Ratchet, now done in a sort of "impractical army" camouflage colour scheme.

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====Robot Replicas====
[[Image:ROTF RobotReplicas Ratchet.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Damn it Prime, I'm a doctor not a gunslinger!]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Robot Replica, 2009)

:[[Robot Replicas]] Ratchet is a non-transforming, highly posable toy intended to be more accurate to Ratchet's CGI robot-mode than transforming toys are capable of. Ratchet is approximately five inches tall and features articulation at his neck, shoulders, elbows, waist, hips, knees and feet.

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====Titanium Series====
[[Image:TSRescueRatchet.jpg|thumb|150px|]]
*'''Rescue Ratchet vs. Blackout''' (3-inch Robot Masters multi-pack, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' Movie Autobot sigil display stand

:This [[Toys"R"Us]]-exclusive set features a [[redeco]]ed version of 2007's ''Titanium Series'' Ratchet in white with red detailing and an unchanged version of [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]].
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===''Transformers'' (2010)===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:DesertDecimationRatchet.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Desert Decimation''' (Legends multi-pack, 2010)

:A redeco of 2007 Legends Ratchet featuring metallic sand deco. He was only available in the [[market six]]-[[exclusive]] "[[Desert Decimation]]" 4-pack together with [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]], [[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Brawl]], and [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]].

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:TF2010toyline_DeluxeRescueRatchet.JPG|thumb|300px|right|]]
*'''Rescue Ratchet''' (Deluxe, 2010)
**''Accessories:'' EMP Blaster, EMP Blast Missile

:Rescue Ratchet is a white and red [[redeco]] of the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe Class Ratchet. Much like the many Rescue Ratchets from the ''2007 Movie'' line, his color scheme is heavily inspired by ''Generation 1'' Ratchet's [[Marvel Comics]] appearance.
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====Voyager Class toys====
[[Image:TF2010-toy_NightOpsRatchet.jpg|thumb|righ|300px|"A redeco that isn't white and red! THANK PRIMUS!"]]
*'''Night Ops Ratchet''' (Voyager, 2010)
**''Accessories:'' Roof rack/claw

:Night Ops Ratchet is a mostly [[black repaint|black redeco]] of Voyager class Ratchet, somewhat similar to the [[#Battle Series|second RPM Ratchet]]. He is somewhat mistransformed in-package and in Hasbro's stock photos, as his windshield pieces remain over his abdomen in robot mode, not rotated around behind.

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===Dark of the Moon===
====Cyberverse====
[[Image:DOTM_Cyberverse_Ratchet_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2011)
**''Series:'' '''1'''
**''Number:'' '''008'''
**''Japanese ID number:''

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:DOTM_Deluxe_Ratchet.jpg|thumb|300px|No patients? He can ''fix'' that...]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (MechTech Deluxe, 2011)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''DA06'''
**''Accessories:'' MechTech Cannon/Power Saw

:As part of the first wave of ''[[Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' Deluxe Class toys, Ratchet is a new mold deluxe. As part of the [[MechTech]] series, he comes with a lever-activated flip-out spinning "Power Saw" blade weapon. The weapon is compatible with any 5mm port, and Ratchet has ports in each of his fists, on the back of his vehicle mode, on each of his shins, and on top of both of his shoulders.

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[[Image:DOTM_Deluxe_Scan_Ratchet.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' EMP Blaster, EMP Blast Missile

:This redeco of Deluxe class ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Ratchet is [[exclusive]] to [[Toys"R"Us]]' Mission Earth: The Scan Series, to represent him [[Trans-scan|trans-scanning]] his vehicle mode. As such, the rear half of his vehicle mode (and thus, part of his robot mode) is cast in translucent plastic.
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*'''Specialist Ratchet''' (MechTech Deluxe, 2011)
**''Japanese ID number:''
**''Accessories:''

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====Voyager Class toys====
*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Voyager, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' Roof rack/claw

:This [[Target]]-exclusive Ratchet is a redeco of the [[Ratchet (Movie)/toys#Voyager Class toys|Voyager class mold]] that has been used since the [[Movie (toyline)|2007 ''Transformers'' toyline]]. In this release, Ratchet is decked out in his new colour scheme for ''Dark of the Moon'', but is otherwise physically unchanged from previous releases.

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==Merchandise==
===3D Battle-Card Game===
[[Image:3DBattleCard_Ratchet.jpg|thumb|right|250px|]]
*'''Ratchet''' (3D Battle-Card, 2007)
**''Card number'':

: Ratchet is a 28-point "Rare" piece in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]. Constructed of punch-out pieces from plastic cards, he can be assembled into his rescue truck mode or robot mode. In vehicle mode, his robot head peeps out behind the truck in a rather hilarious manner. He uses the same construction as the Movie [[Payload (Movie)|Payload]], and Generation 1 [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] cards.

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===Transformers (2007)===
[[Image:Movie Ratchet Allsparkblaster.jpg|right|150px|thumb|The irony that the medic gets firearm merchandise, though the weapons specialist doesn't.]]
*'''Ratchet AllSpark Blaster''' (2008)

:The Ratchet AllSpark Blaster is one of several Movie Roleplay toys. The toy consists of a a blaster attached to Ratchet's (hollow) hand which a child can slip their own hand inside like a glove and wield. Pulling the trigger causes the toy to emit transformation sounds, allowing the user to transform the toy weapon from laser blaster mode to battle cannon mode, by pulling the handle on the back. Laser blaster mode features features siren and laser sounds and a "triple laser light", while the battle cannon mode has cannon blasting sounds and a "weapon-blast light".
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===Unleashed===
[[Image:Movie UnleashedTurnarounds RatchetJazz.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Their descision to light a campfire in the Ruby Crystal Mines of Burma really pissed Ratchet off......]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet and Autobot Jazz''' (2008)

:The Ratchet and Jazz turnaround is a 3D sculpture of the two characters, both in robot mode, emerging from rubble and explosions, with a movie-accurate sculpt (compared to the various transforming toys). The 'turnaround' aspect of these sculptures simply means one can turn the piece around to display a raised-relief of the movie-style Autobot sigil instead.

:This product's release was cancelled for the US market, but was released in Central America, Australia and in Asia.
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====Transformers Movie Screen Cleaners====
[[Image:Movie Ratchet screencleaner.jpg|right|105px|thumb|]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (2008)

:Released by Tomy Yujin on January 2008<ref name=TomyYujin">[http://www.gachausa.com/products/transformers.asp Tomy Yujin ''Transformers'' page]</ref>, this Dangler is a faction logo-shaped screen cleaner for your cell phone, with a stock image of Ratchet printed on the other side.
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===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Missile Mania Board Game====
*'''Ratchet'''
: Ratchet is one of eight characters featured in the [[Missile Mania]] board game, represented by a small standee adorned with artwork of the character.
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====RPMs - Robot Powered Machines====
=====Combat Series=====
[[Image:ROTF RPMs Ratchet.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"Did anyone get the number of that hummer that ran me over?"]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (2009)
**''Number:'' '''01 of 04'''

:As an [[Robot Powered Machines|RPM]], Ratchet is a non-transforming ''Hot Wheels''-scale search and rescue vehicle. Sculpted on the underside of the vehicle is Ratchet's robot mode, name and faction insignia. A variant deco featured the search and rescue emblem seen in the movie on Ratchet's doors, instead of the more common Autobot symbol.

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=====Battle Series=====
[[Image:Rotf_ratchet_rpms_nightwatch.jpg|right|250px|thumb|For when you need your emergency vehicles stealthy.]]
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*'''Autobot Ratchet VS Megatron''' (2009)
**''Number:'' '''05 of 08'''

:This redeco of Ratchet essentially reverses his colors, coloring him black with a green bumper and roof rack. He was only available in a two-pack with [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]].

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====Figure Collection====
[[Image:ROTF-Merchandise Figure Collection Ratchet.jpg|thumb|right|150px]]
*'''Ratchet''' (2010)
**''Accessories:'' Stand
:The [[Figure Collection]] edition of Ratchet is based on his [[#Fast_Action_Battlers|Fast Action Battlers toy]].

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===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Robot Heroes Ratchet vs Megatron.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Going my way?]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet and Megatron''' (2007)

:''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' Autobot Ratchet is a soft-plastic figurine sculpted in a [[super deformed]] style, with joints at his head and shoulders. He can place one hand on his hip and raise his thumbs-up arm for hitch-hiking fun.
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[[Image:Robotheroesfinalbattle.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Infected with herpe— er, AllSpark Power.]]
*'''The Final Battle''' (2008)

:Sold exclusively in Wal-Mart stores, this release of Ratchet is a repaint of the first Robot Heroes toy. Sold with redecoed Autobot Jazz, Blackout, Optimus Prime, and Megatron, no molding was changed on this toy. However, the figure boasts an "Allspark blue" paint job, which swaps out a few of the toy's original decos with the bright blue paint instead.
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[[Image:RobotHeroes_BattlefortheAllspark.jpg|250px|thumb|right|]]
*'''Battle for the Allspark''' (2009)

:Packaged in a set depicting the battle in [[Mission City]] with [[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Brawl]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], plus new figures of [[Sam Witwicky]], [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] in truck mode, [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] in fighter mode and Bumblebee in vehicle mode, this Ratchet Heroes figurine has the circular saw on his arm that he uses to slice off Brawl's left arm.
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[[Image:Ratchet_and_barricade_robot_heroes.jpg|thumb|250px|Oh, look at the time!]]
*'''Ratchet vs Barricade''' (2009)
:Part of the third wave of ''Revenge of the Fallen''-branded ''Robot Heroes'', a new mold of Ratchet brandishing his machine gun is packaged versus a redeco of the original [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] ''Robot Heroes'' figurine.
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==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/2007/Autobot/Ratchet/ratchet.htm Ratchet at TFU.info]

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Ironhide (Movie)/toys

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'''[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]''' has enough toys to afford several new cannons.

==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:Movie Legends Ironhide DesertBlackout.jpg|right|300px|thumb|''Don't mess'', Blackout, or Ironhide will wave his fist angrily while you fly out of range!]]
*'''Ironhide Vs. Desert Blackout''' (Legends "Allspark Battles" two-pack, 2008)

: An all-new Ironhide tooling that packs considerable accuracy into his small, simple design. Unlike the Voyager class toy, Legends Ironhide stores his cannons in the truck's bed. He comes with a desert scheme redeco of Legends class [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]].

: Amusingly, this version of Ironhide is one of only two American toy releases that has full-length exhaust stacks. Also, there are many complaints about the fists sticking out of the back of the truck and the weird truck proportions.

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====Voyager Class toys====
[[Image:Movie Voyager Ironhide toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|[[Guiltaur]] called, he wants his weapon back.]]
*'''Ironhide''' (Voyager Class, 2007)
**''Japanese ID Number:'' '''MA-09'''
**''Accessories:'' Left & right cannons, 4 missiles

:Ironhide transforms into a modified black 2006 [[wikipedia:GMC Topkick|GMC Topkick]] 4500 four-wheel drive pickup truck. Although Hasbro's official stock photos and early packaged [[Prototype|samples]] featured two real-life accurate full length exhaust smokestacks behind the rear cabin, they have been slightly shortened for [[For safety reasons|safety]] and durability reasons for the actual release of the toy. Otherwise, however, the vehicle mode is very accurate to the real prop truck... well, aside from the fact that Ironhide's massive missile launchers are quite visible underneath the vehicle. Despite rumors to the contrary, TakaraTomy's Japanese release of the toy features the same shortened smokestacks as the Hasbro version.

:Ironhide features an [[Automorph]] gimmick in his legs during transformation: As the user swings down his feet, all of the panels that make up his legs automatically shift and fold into place. This gimmick does not affect Ironhide's articulation. Confusingly, the instructions omit the exact positioning of the roof panels and rear window on his back, though they can fold into a compact design for maximum articulation.

:In robot mode,his arm-mounted cannons are inactive while mounted on both arms. However, detaching the left arm cannon and combining it with the right arm creates a '''huge''' functional missile launcher that is almost as big as Ironhide himself. The missile-launching mechanism itself isn't the typical spring-loaded button design, instead relying on a pressure-launch system to fire the missiles from the four barrels.

:The peg that holds his windshield is prone to cracking, which makes it become loose, and might even result in breakage.
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[[Image:Movie Voyager Offroad Ironhide.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Ironhide in full-fledged colour!]]
*'''Offroad Ironhide''' (Voyager Class, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' Left & right cannons, 4 missiles

:Released as part of the "Allspark Power" refresh of the Movie toyline, Offroad Ironhide is a fairly extensive redeco of Voyager class Ironhide in colors reminiscent of the ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bot]] [[Motormouth]]. As he's now made of several colors of plastic, he's no longer the most monochromatic toy in the 2007 ''Movie'' line.

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[[Image:Movie Ironhide PremiumVoyager toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|The skies leaked powder on me.]]
*'''Ironhide''' ("Premium Series" Voyager Class, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' Left & right cannons, 4 missiles

:Premium Ironhide is a redeco of the previous released Voyager class Ironhide, painted in a gloss black finish, silver trim on his smokestacks, Road Armor winch and side turn signal detailing, but with them are several inaccurate deco additions including silver detailing to the rims, frosted windows, silver paint on the roof ridges and a large Autobot sigil tampographed onto the hood.

:In robot mode Ironhide is considerably more accurate with gold and gunmetal detailing colors which were missing from the first Voyager release. His large cannons are now molded in mostly black plastic, then painted metallic teal with gold detailing.
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====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:Movie FAB Ironhide.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Pop goes the Autobot.]]
*'''Cannon Blast Ironhide''' (Fast Action Battler, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' 1 missile

:Part of the [[Fast Action Battlers]] line, "Cannon Blast" Ironhide is a simpler version of the larger toy, geared more towards the younger set who might find the big toy too complicated to transform. He still transforms into the customized GMC Topkick. He features a spring-loaded missile launcher in his left cannon. But, thanks to the simpler transformation, the hood and wheels trap his arms below the wheel. He can't punch or aim his cannon at all, and the elbows have no articulation but swiveling that knocks the arm off his body.

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[[Image:Movie FAB PulseCannon Ironhide.jpg|right|300px|thumb|It's a squirrel-squashin', deer-smackin', drivin' machine!]]
*'''Pulse Cannon Ironhide''' (Fast Action Battler, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' 1 missiles

:A redeco of the Fast Action Battler Ironhide, this version sports a silver and blue color scheme that is both a reversal of the "Offroad" Ironhide Voyager figure... and seemingly an [[homage]] to the [[:Image:G2Gobot_Ironhide.jpg|''Generation 2'' Go-Bots version]] of his ''[[Generation 1]]'' [[Ironhide (G1)|counterpart]], a redeco of Motormouth (see above). Funky!

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====Cyber Slammers====
[[Image:Movie CyberSlammers Ironhide.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"Slam" This!]]
*'''Ironhide''' (Cyber Slammer, 2008)

:Cyber Slammers Ironhide is an amazingly cute GMC Topkick that transforms into an amazingly cute trigger happy weapons specialist. 'Slam' his robot mode down into car mode and he rolls along, slowly transforming back up into robot mode. Like most Cyber Slammers, Ironhide manages to cram most of his vehicle mode's major details into a compact, super-deformed version of that mode. Interestingly enough, this is the only pre-Revenge of the Fallen merchandise to feature Ironhide's scarred right eye.

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====Titanium Series====
[[Image:Movie TitaniumRM Ironhide.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Dances to every Bon Jovi song...ever.]]
*'''Ironhide''' (3-inch Robot Masters, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Movie Autobot sigil display stand

:''[[Titanium Series]]'' Ironhide is a small, 3-inch-tall [[die-cast]] metal mini-statue of Ironhide's robot mode. He has swivel points at the shoulders and head, and comes with a clear plastic movie-style Autobot sigil stand.

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===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:ROTF-toy IronhideEnforcer.jpg|thumb|300px|Right colors, wrong <s>bot</s> toy.]]
*'''Enforcer Ironhide''' (Legends, 2009)

:Enforcer Ironhide is a [[redeco]] of 2008's [[Legends Class|Legends class]] [[Ironhide (Movie)#Legends Class toys|Ironhide]] in a more [[Ironhide (G1)|Generation 1-looking red]] colour scheme. As with all wave three Legends figures, the photo on the back of the figure's packaging shows a mistransformed robot mode, where his chest is not aligned properly.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/LegIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Enforcer Ironhide at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:ROTF-toy_IronhideSS.jpg|thumb|300px|Colours suck!]]
*'''Straightaway Shootout''' (Legends multi-pack, 2009)

:A redeco of 2008 Legends Ironhide featuring his regular colors, but using different color layouts and [[Paint operation|paint applications]]. He was only available in the [[Target]]-[[exclusive]] "[[Straightaway Shootout]]" 5-pack together with [[Mudflap (ROTF)#Straightaway|Mudflap]], [[Swerve (Movie)#Straightaway|Swerve]], [[Runamuck (ROTF)|Runamuck]] and [[Sparkcrusher]].

:In [[Canada]], the set was released as a Zellers exclusive.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/TargetLegIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Straightaway Shootout Ironhide at TFU.info]''
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====Voyager Class toys====
[[Image:ROTF Voyager Ironhide.jpg|right|300px|thumb|No matter which mode he's in, Ironhide still outguns you.]]
*'''Ironhide''' (Voyager, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-02'''
**''Accessories:'' Missile launcher cannon, energy cannon, projectile

: ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' Voyager class Ironhide is a retool of the toy from the 2007 ''Transformers'' movie line. The original arm cannons have been replaced by new, more accurate (and less [[Gimmick|gimmicky]]) cannons that can be connected together and mounted on top of Ironhide's truck bed cover. The truck bed cover and arm mountings for this Ironhide's cannons are unchanged from the 2007 movie line voyagers. So any voyager Ironhide can carry and use both the original and new weapons. The large cannon features screwdriving firing action in which the barrel section twists forward before firing the missile. The small cannon can retract its barrel and has a 5mm hole on its underside that allows it to plug into the peg on the large cannon like a scope if so desired. Since the weapons can connect to each other, the figure (and all other uses of this mold) can hold these and the combined 2007 cannons at once. All four cannons can fit on his truck mode as well, the old ones underneath and the new ones on top. Ironhide's head has been replaced with a more accurate, asymmetrical head. Ironhide also features a new grey colour scheme with some red pin stripes and a [[NEST]] logo on each of his doors.

: According to the box pictures and instructions, the small cannon is misassembled. The gray sliding shaft is actually reversed from the direction it is supposed to be facing. This doesn't affect anything, but can be easily fixed by loosening the screws on the black outer section, sliding out the shaft, then turning it around and putting it back in.

: A packaging variant determines whether the missile is loaded or unloaded in the box.

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[[Image:ROTFtoy-JungleAttackIronhideVoyager.jpg|right|thumb|300px|John Rambot.]]
*'''Recon Ironhide''' (Voyager, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-26'''
**''Accessories:'' Assault rifle, minigun, knife, bullbar/crossbow, projectile

:Recon Ironhide is an extensive retool, replacing his doors with military Humvee-style armoured door panels, adding a roof/truck bed-mounted lighting rig/weapons rack and replacing his Road Armor fender with a massive bullbar that can be removed and converted into a spring-loaded crossbow weapon. Ironhide's traditional arm-mounted weapons have been replaced with the aforementioned crossbow, a smaller version of his arm mounted cannon, an assault rifle, a minigun, and two combat knives. In one of the first intentional uses of the [[C joint]] system (if not ''the'' first), either knife can be attached to the front of the rifle as a bayonet, and the rifle and mini gun can be clipped to the sides of his arm mounted weapons (the guns and knives can also be attached to the front of his arm cannon). The two rifles and knives can also be attached to his backpack rails in robot mode. Think he's armed enough yet? Additionally, this retool of Ironhide includes a new headsculpt featuring his battle mask.

:In an unfortunate change, all of Ironhide's (newly-tooled) windows are now cast in opaque plastic, compared to the translucent plastic seen on previous versions of this toy.

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====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:Ironhide ROTF FAB toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Again, so near, yet so far.]]
*'''Cannon Force Ironhide''' (Fast Action Battler, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' 1 missile

:Cannon Force Ironhide is a redeco of 2007's Cannon Blast Ironhide figure. His colourscheme matches the mostly-red deco seen on the Legends class Enforcer Ironhide toy.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/FABIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Cannon Force Ironhide at TFU.info]''

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====Robot Replicas====
[[Image:ROTF RobotReplicas Ironhide.jpg|right|150px|thumb|]]
*'''Ironhide''' (Robot Replica, 2009)

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====Titanium Series====
*'''Offroad Ironhide vs. Deep Desert Brawl''' (3-inch Robot Masters multi-pack, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' Movie Autobot sigil display stand

:This [[Toys"R"Us]]-exclusive set features an unchanged version of 2007's ''Titanium Series'' Ironhide (despite package claims to the contrary) and a [[redeco]]ed [[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]].
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===Transformers (2010)===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:DesertDecimationIronhide.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Desert Decimation''' (Legends multi-pack, 2010)

:A redeco of 2008 Legends Ironhide featuring metallic sand deco. He was only available in the [[market six]]-[[exclusive]] "[[Desert Decimation]]" 4-pack together with [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], [[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Brawl]], and [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]].

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:Transformers2010DeluxeIronhide.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe, 2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''AA-03'''
**''Accessories:'' Weapon pod

:A new-sculpt Deluxe-sized figure of Ironhide, with an almost ridiculously [[show-accuracy|movie-accurate]] (and surprisingly stable) robot mode. His smokestacks are of the long variety, and his head is the second (after Voyager Recon Ironhide) to be sculpted in "battle mask" mode. The toy comes with a transforming weapon accessory, his missile turret from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|''Revenge of the Fallen'' video game]]. Sadly, this goes at the expense of a movie-accurate cannon for the left arm. The turret can stay attached to his arm when transforming back to his vehicle mode, thanks to a hard to notice joint on the other arm's cannon flipping open to allow more room, ensuring no chance of losing this accessory. In an undocumented feature, the turret can also attach to the back of Ironhide's vehicle mode by slotting two of its legs into two small holes on the truck bed, the third leg can them be positioned forward and slot into a groove on the back of the cab. This can be quite difficult however if (in another undocumented feature) you do not fully extend the turret's legs which are attached to a black piece which allows all 3 legs to fold down further than just pulling each one out individually; this allows for a greater range of movement and allows the turret to be aimed upwards.

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:The [[TakaraTomy]] ''Autobot Alliance'' release of this figure features a significant colouring change: Where Hasbro's release cast much of Ironhide's legs, feet, hands, shoulders and some joints in a bright gunmetal colour, TakaraTomy's uses dark grey plastic.
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====Voyager Class toys====
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*'''The Fury Of Bonecrusher''' (multi-pack, 2010)
**''Accessories:'' Assault rifle, minigun, knife, bullbar/crossbow, projectile

:This [[Walmart]]-exclusive two-pack contains a redeco of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Recon Ironhide in blue with sand details painted on his vehicle mode. He is packaged with a redeco of Deluxe-class [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]] from the first movie and, as part of the "[[Hunt for the Decepticons]]" promotion, a "Most Wanted" collector's card featuring the Decepticon.

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====Activators====
[[Image:TF2010-toy Activators Ironhide.jpg|thumb|right|300px|D'awww, and he's got a cute ickle smile!]]
*'''Ironhide''' (Activator, 2010)

:[[Activators]] Ironhide is a smaller toy with cutesified proportions and a simplified transformation. Like all Activators, he features [[autotransformation]] from vehicle to robot, activated by pressing a button on his roof.
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===Dark of the Moon===
====Cyberverse====
[[Image:DOTM_CyberverseCommande_Ironhide_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|Sorry Ironhide, we're going to have to take away your gun...]]
*'''Ironhide''' (Cyberverse Commander, 2011)
**''Series:''
**''Number:''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''CV06'''
**''Accessories:''

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:DOTM_Deluxe_Scan_Ironhide_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Ironhide''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' Weapon pod

:This redeco of Deluxe class Ironhide is [[exclusive]] to [[Toys"R"Us]]' Mission Earth: The Scan Series, to represent him [[Trans-scan|trans-scanning]] his vehicle mode. As such, the rear half of his vehicle mode is cast in translucent clear plastic.
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====Voyager Class toys====
[[Image:DOTM_Voyager_Ironhide_toy.JPG|thumb|300px|...so we can give you this ''bigger'' gun!]]
*'''Ironhide''' (MechTech Voyager, 2011)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''DA04'''
**''Accessories:'' MechTech Cannon

:Dark of the Moon Ironhide is an all-new mold that is considerably more stable and easier to stand up than the previous Voyager molds, having tighter jointed legs, as well as [[ball joint]]ed pivotable feet. He comes with a large [[MechTech]] cannon that extends and spins its barrels when the back is pressed, and the cannon can either be pegged onto the car roof or his hands. He also has an [[Automorph]] gimmick on his vehicle front end/chest, wherein pushing it automatically deforms both halves of the front end into his chest, and pulling it reforms it back to the vehicle front end. His arms also look rather strange.

====Leader Class toys====
[[Image:DOTM-Leader-Class-Ironhide.jpg|thumb|300px|Oh for god's sake, it's where you left it, 'hide.]]
*'''Ironhide''' (Mechtech Leader, 2011)
**''Japanese ID Number:''
**''Accessories:'' Knife,missle launcher,missle

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====Robo Power====
=====Robo Fighters=====
*'''Ironhide''' (2011)

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==Merchandise==
====Lunchables====
* '''Ironhide''' ("Pocket Transformers" toy prize, 2007)

: A fold-out "pseudo-figure" of Ironhide "transforms" from a flat, blue plateform decorated with the Autobot symbol and the word "Transformers" to a robot by folding out. Ironhide is represented by stickers decorated with artwork of the character on the top, bottom, and two fold out "arms". His name is also spelled out, across his feet in this mode.

: This mold was also used to creatre the lunchables figure for [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]], and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]. A similar mold was used to creature the Lunchables figure for [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] and [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], though with the Decepticon symbol sculpted in instead of the Autobot one. Each itiration of this mold was made with a different color of plastic.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Autobot/LunchIronhide/ironhide.htm More information on Lunchables Ironhide at TFU.info]''
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====Burger King====
*'''Ironhide''' (2007)

:Ironhide represented in his GMC Topkick alternate mode. Pulling him back will wind up his wheels, letting him go will let him go and pop out two missle launchers (non-functionable) and an Autobot insignia from his bed.
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===''Transformers'' 3D Battle-Card Game===
[[Image:3DBattleCard_Ironhide.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Primary Weakness: Gusts of wind.]]
*'''Ironhide''' (3D Battle Card, 2007)
**''Card number:''

: A 41-point "rare" character in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]], Ironhide "transforms" into a grey pickup truck of indeterminate make. He uses the same parts layout as [[Dropkick]] and [[Skids (G1)|Skids]]. He is equipped with a Radial Launcher and Chem Cannon.
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===Transformers (2007)===
====Transformers Movie Danglers====
[[Image:Movie Ironhide dangler.jpg|right|171px|thumb|]]
*'''Ironhide''' (2007)

:Released by [[Tomy Yujin]] in November 2007<ref>[http://www.gachausa.com/products/transformers.asp Tomy Yujin ''Transformers'' page]</ref> as part of the [[Danglers Collection]], this toy is a weird plastic [[Super deformed]] version of Ironhide that pops out his vehicle mode when you squeeze him. This little figurine has a little strap on it so that it can be put on cell phones or portable gaming devices.

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===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Rhboneiron.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Ironhide is cute as he blows everything into slag.]]
*'''Ironhide vs. Bonecrusher''' (Robot Heroes 2-pack, 2007)

:Part of the ''[[Robot Heroes]]'' line, this incarnation of Ironhide is an adorable soft-plastic PVC figurine in a chunky, "super-deformed" style. He has swivel points at the shoulders and neck. He came in a two-pack with the Decepticon [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]].

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[[Image:Rhironhidedispensor.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Transformers 2: Electric Boogaloo.]]
*'''Ironhide and Dispensor''' (Robot Heroes 2-pack, 2008)

:Part of the ''Robot Heroes'' line, this incarnation of Ironhide is an adorable soft-plastic PVC figurine in a chunky, "super-deformed" style in his "somersaulting" pose from the Mission City battle. He came in a two-pack with [[Dispensor]].

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[[Image:Robotheroesironhidemixmaster.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Well, he's back on his feet!]]
*'''Ironhide and Mixmaster''' (2009)
:Part of the second wave of the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' portion of the ''Robot Heroes'' line, Ironhide is a redeco of his first ''Robot Heroes'' figure in gunmetal and tan. He comes packaged with [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]].
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[[Image:Robotheroesmegatronfallenprimejetfireironhide.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Whoa, who ordered the extra-large The Fallen?]]
*'''Battle for the Fallen''' (box set, 2009)
:This ''Robot Heroes'' box set of figures comes with [[The Fallen]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] (tank mode), [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] combined, and Ironhide (truck mode). Ironhide proooobably has no articulation.

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===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Missile Mania Board Game====
*'''Ironhide'''
: Ironhide is one of eight characters featured in the [[Missile Mania]] board game, represented by a small standee adorned with artwork of the character.
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====RPMs - Robot Powered Machines====
[[Image:ROTF-toy_RPM_Ironhide.jpg|thumb|right|300px|"I'm going to the party dressed as me!"]]
*'''Ironhide''' (2009)
**''Series:'' '''Combat Series'''
**''Number:'' '''03 of 04'''

:''[[Robot Powered Machines]]'' Ironhide is a small, non-transforming GMC Topkick 4500 with his robot mode sculpted on the truck's underside.

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[[Image:ROTF-toy_RPM_Ironhide_vs_Starscream.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Starscream hides under another an F-22 to avoid Ironhide.]]
*'''Ironhide VS Starscream''' (2009)
**''Series:'' '''Battle Series'''
**''Number:'' '''07 of 08'''

:A [[NEST]]-based redeco of the single-pack Ironhide, coloring part of the truck silver and the windows green. This version was only available in a two-pack with [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]].

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*'''Enforcer Ironhide VS Mixmaster''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Battle Series 2'''
**''Number:'' '''06 of 06'''

:Redecos of Ironhide and Mixmaster, with Ironhide's deco based on his [[Legends Class]] "Enforcer Ironhide" toy. Unreleased in the United States, this two-pack has been found in stores in Asia and Europe.
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====Figure Collection====
[[Image:ROTF-Merchandise Figure Collection Ironhide.jpg|right|150px|thumb]]
*'''Ironhide''' (2010)
**''Accessories:'' Stand
:The [[Figure Collection]] edition of Ironhide appears to be modeled on his [[#Fast_Action_Battlers|Fast Action Battlers]] toy, though with very spindly arms.

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===Speed Stars===
[[Image:SpeedStars_Revealers_Ironhide.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]
*'''Ironhide''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Revealers'''
**''Number:'' '''01 of 03'''

:''[[Speed Stars]]'' "Revealers" Ironhide is sculpted with various robot-mode parts protruding from his car mode, as if he's in mid-transformation.

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[[Image:SpeedStars_MetalHeroes_Ironhide.jpg|thumb|right|300px|G1 Ironhide didn't like Movie Ironhide getting all the toys, but nobody expected him to turn to vehicular homicide!]]
*'''Ironhide''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Metal Heroes'''
**''Number:'' '''06 of 08'''

:Speed Stars "Metal Heroes" Ironhide is a redeco of RPM's "Metal Heroes" Ironhide based on the red Ironhide redeco from RPM's Battle Series 2, though it features fewer paint details than the RPM version. It is made of [[die-cast]].

:During the period between 26 December 2010 and 31 January 2011, Hasbro ran their "Supercharge Your Holidays" promotion: for every $20 spent on Hasbro-branded product, customers could receive a free, random product from a list provided by Hasbro. Among the items on the list were "Transformers Combiners and Speed Star Mini-Vehicle" and "Transformers Activator and Speed Star Mini-Vehicle." According to [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=75487 this discussion thread on Allspark.com], Speed Stars Metal Heroes Ironhide was one of the figures distributed.

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[[Image:SpeedStars_BattleSeries_IronhideMixmaster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]
*'''Enforcer Ironhide VS Mixmaster''' (2010?)
**''Series:'' '''Battle Series 2'''
**''Number:'' '''06 of 06'''

:As RPM's Battle Series 2 was carried over into ''Speed Stars'', this is another release of the red Ironhide. Again, it features less paint than the original release.

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[[Image:SpeedStars_NEST_Ironhide.jpg|thumb|right|300px|"Hey guys, if we colour me like this, we don't need Jolt at ''all''! Alright!"]]
*'''Ironhide''' (2010?)
**''Series:'' '''N.E.S.T. Global Alliance'''
**''Number:'' '''03 of 03'''

:NEST Ironhide is a redeco of the RPM mold in blue with silver patterns on his doors and a [[NEST]] insignia on his hood.

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====McDonald's====
*'''Ironhide''' (Happy Meal, 2010)

:Part of the 2010 [[McDonald's]] Revenge of the Fallen promotion, Ironhide does not transform but features a "punching/firing" mechanism instead, a switch on his back rocks his arms forwards and backwards in an alternating motion. Ironhide features blue [[light-piping]], an unexpected feature for a fast food promotional toy, but does not feature any form articulation. He was only available during week 5 of the promotion, and came with an instruction sheet that doubles as an ad for [[McWorld]], featuring an exclusive code for the website.

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==Bigger toys==
[[Image:Movie MonroeTopkickIronhideEdition.jpg|right|300px|thumb|What do you mean there are no cannons?]]
*'''GMC TopKick 4500 Ironhide Edition''' (2007)

:As reported at [http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=121589 Edmunds], [http://www.monroetruck.com/index.asp Monroe Truck Equipment], in association with Hasbro, released a GMC TopKick 4500 Ironhide special edition featuring most of the modifications made to the Ironhide vehicle props used in the movie, with the only difference being that the truck will retain its stock orange running lights (the movie used blue) and the large stock sideview mirrors.

:Sadly, installing a grumpy trigger-happy alien robot and deadly high-tech weaponry into the works is not part of the included modifications. Production on the GMC Topkick truck ceased when General Motors exited the medium-duty truck market in 2009.
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==Footnotes==
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Starscream (WFC)

2011-05-15T04:57:41Z

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{{disambig3|Starscream}}
:''Starscream is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:StarscreamPrime.jpg|thumb|300px|In a cruel twist of fate, the most legitimately competent Starscream ever, but no one will take him seriously for even a minute.]]
'''Starscream''' was an Air Commander of the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]]s, [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s finest air warriors. His dream was to recover the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and become the [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] that would return the Transformers to the [[Golden Age]], and he saw opportunity with the rebel upstart [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]. A patient and polite schemer, Starscream used to wish Megatron would drop the heroic anti-[[caste system|caste]] charade and be more honest about his lust for power.

These days, he alternatively wishes Megatron would stop being obsessed with his lust for power and chafes under having to work for such a madman. While he serves as Megatron's right-hand man, he constantly looks for a way to become the commander himself and Megatron knows it: Starscream's extremely volatile personality means he is not adept at hiding his true intent. Fortunately for Megatron, Starscream is prone to panic, cowardice and bombastic gestures, meaning that it'd take exceptional circumstances for Screamer to actually manage to get behind him to shove the knife in.

He may be a scientist, but [[Starscream (Prime)#Notes|we're not quite sure]].

{{quote|Perfect, just like the one who fired it!|Starscream after achieving a headshot|''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]''}}

==Fiction==
===''Exodus: The History of the War for Cybertron''===
Starscream may or may not have had a history as a scientist. Regardless of what he did prior, in the early days before the war began he was one of the leaders of the Cybertronian Air Command. When [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] fell into chaos following bombings by [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]'s [[Decepticon]] followers, Starscream was posted as [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]]'s bodyguard. He was with the Prime at [[Altihex]] Casino during a performance by comedian [[Armorhide (WFC)|Armorhide]] when the Decepticons attacked. Sentinel's attempt to flee rather than fight back made Starscream ashamed of his leader, so he had [[Skywarp (WFC)|Skywarp]] and [[Thundercracker (WFC)|Thundercracker]] take him to [[Kaon]] Prison rather than the safety of [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]]. This earned him loyalty with Megatron, but wary of how sour a revolution could quickly turn Starscream opted not to be directly involved in the gladiator's operations, posting his Seekers at [[Moonbase One|Moon Base One]] and [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]] Station. Megatron was intrigued by why Starscream wanted to occupy "that semi-sentient pile of junk" but despite [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]]'s research they found no clues, with information regarding the Station seemingly censored.

Whenever Starscream's Seekers were present, the Decepticons were victorious in battle against the [[Autobot]]s. Starscream however, found Megatron's strategies overly convoluted. As the war devolved into a siege of Iacon, Megatron and [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]], by probing into forgotten areas of the [[DataNet]], discovered Trypticon was a storage of [[Dark Energon]], the life essence of [[Unicron]]. When questioned, Starscream explained since even the Air Command was not sure what Dark Energon was, he had forbidden its use, fearing the damage Megatron's gladiators would unleash. Megatron forgave Starscream, noting how he "was smart enough to be afraid of it", and was granted access.

Starscream sent a message to the Autobots proposing a meeting. Optimus only granted him a communication channel. Starscream stated if the Autobots did not know what Dark Energon was (they did) they would need to find out — and asked what would he could expect from them if something happened to Megatron. Optimus replied that he sought a just peace. Starscream said he understood, broke off the conversation and flew to [[Kaon]] Prison where Sentinel was held. Starscream offered Sentinel a chance to redeem his cowardly behavior at Altihex. The ultimate aim of this road to becoming Decepticon leader was to become [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] in a peace settlement with Optimus, and lead Cybertron back to its [[Golden Age]]. Starscream then flew to Moon Base One when Megatron ordered him to Trypticon, where he found the Decepticons had invaded the Station and slaughtered and maimed his scientists.

Megatron and [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] forced Starscream to select two survivors to absorb [[Dark Energon]], for what was a successful experiment. Requiring more for the Decepticon war effort, Megatron ordered Starscream to capture the [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge]], below the ruins of [[Crystal City]]. Empowered by his first taste of Dark Energon, Starscream activated the device that transmitted Energon to the Station for it to be Darkened. But the Bridge still did not produce enough, and Starscream was ordered to find the Code [[Key of Power]] and [[Key of Justice]] to the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]] underneath the [[High Council Tower]] in Iacon. Starscream decided it was time to release Sentinel, renouncing Dark Energon after realizing Megatron had turned his soldiers into addicts. Starscream found the Key of Power within the [[Hall of Justice]] and flew underground to find his plan had failed, as Megatron had mortally wounded Sentinel. He could see within Sentinel's body was the Key of Justice, but was prevented from taking it by [[Blackout (WFC)|Blackout]]. Megatron fought Starscream to a standstill, sparing him because he realized he was a better soldier than a would-be example.

As Megatron entered the Chamber, [[Teletraan-1]] activated the legendary [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]] to fly it away. Aware Starscream had a better chance of escaping Omega's awakening, Megatron ordered Starscream and his Seekers to down Omega, in exchange for more Dark Energon. Giving up on his attempt to give up his addiction, Starscream gleefully accepted and they successfully blew Omega out of the sky, allowing the Decepticons to retrieve the Chamber and corrupt the [[core]]. As Cybertron became uninhabitable, the Autobots left on the largest starship ever built - the ''[[Ark (WFC)|Ark]]''. Starscream left the planet with Megatron as they gave pursuit on Trypticon, now a ''Nemesis''-class supercruiser. The two ships entered a [[space bridge]], which separated the two ships to unknown parts of space... {{storylink|Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: Prime'' comics===
[[Image:Primecomic-Starscream.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Hey, look, a backscratcher!]]
Starscream had been on [[Earth]] at some point, but was assigned by Megatron to scour the galaxy for remnants of space bridge technology. Returning to their dead homeworld, Starscream built a weapons lab in Kaon and began building a space bridge. He was informed by his [[Vehicon (Prime)|Eradicon]]s elsewhere they had apprehended the Autobot spy [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]]. Later, after basking in the glory of successfully activating the space bridge that would return them to Earth and its [[Energon (fuel)|Energon]], Starscream realized Cliffjumper was present. The Autobot claimed to be freed by his captors after defecting to the Decepticons, and warned them of [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]]: this ruse successfully distracted Starscream long enough for Arcee to activate and overload the space bridge, but he jumped in after them moments before the lab was blown sky high.

Falling to Earth, a dazed Starscream picked up a [[bunny rabbit]], commenting that [[human]]s were smaller than he remembered. [[Scanning]] a fleet of jets flying overhead, he found Cliffjumper and Arcee driving on a road and launched a missile at them. He picked up Arcee's blown off arm and started battering Cliffjumper with it, but the Autobot blew up the rock formation above them and crushed Starscream with the rubble. Having received Starscream's signal, [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] came to his rescue, and the duo pursued and overwhelmed the Autobots. Just as Starscream was about to send them back to the [[AllSpark (Prime)|AllSpark]], Optimus jumped and landed on him, while gunning Breakdown away. As Starscream greeted his opponent, [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] tapped him on the shoulder and sent him flying. Optimus opted not to finish the job, allowing Starscream to escape and fight another day as he got Cliffjumper and Arcee to base. {{storylink|Transformers: Prime (comic)}}
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===''Prime'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor'': [[Steve Blum]] (English)
[[Image:DarknessRising1-Starscreamsneer.jpg|right|thumb|300px|One look sells him as Starscream.]]
[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] had left [[Earth]] for the depths of space three years ago, leaving Starscream in charge. Starscream spent his time sending out [[Vehicon (Prime)|Decepticon grunts]] to search for [[Energon (fuel)|Energon]] deposits, and managed to set up a lucrative energon mine in secret. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 2}} One energon search was intercepted by the Autobot [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]]. Once Cliffjumper was defeated, Starscream had him brought aboard his ship, where his captive asked where Megatron was. Assuring the defeated Autobot that he was his own master, he stabbed Cliffjumper with his fist, causing the Autobot to bleed out and finally succumb to his wounds. [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] played back a transmission of Cliffjumper and Arcee's last conversation, and Starscream declared she would be their next target, sending two drones after her.

Later, Soundwave picked up deep space transmissions, and a hesitant Starscream opened the space bridge for Megatron's return. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 1}} Welcoming him to his energon mine, Starscream asked (quite snarkily) whether Megatron had raised a new army in his three year absence. His leader replied he had recovered [[Dark Energon]], the blood of Unicron himself, to the Seeker's concern; then he asked if Starscream were willing to make the ultimate sacrifice, to test its abilities to raise the dead. Starscream ''declined'' his unhinged commander's request, offering Cliffjumper's corpse for the experiment. It resulted in a rabid [[zombie]] whose rampage was only stopped by Megatron slicing it in half: Starscream was left confused and unnerved by the idea Megatron intended to weaponise such things.

The zombie's activation made the Autobots think Cliffjumper was alive and they raided Starscream's energon mine to find it. Starscream reported this to Megatron, upset about losing the place, and was ordered to his annoyance to bomb the mine: Megatron believed Optimus survived, however. Feeling he had not spent enough time exploring Dark Energon's secrets, he promptly stabbed a shard into his spark, and Starscream looked in horror as a purple light infused Megatron's body... {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 2}}

[[Image:DarknessRising3-interrogateFowler.jpg|thumb|left|250px|"No, Mister Fowler, I expect you to be saved at the last minute!"]]
With the success of the experiment, Megatron took off for parts unknown, leaving Starscream in charge once more. Starscream confided in Soundwave that he thought Megatron had gone a bit batty, and Soundwave responded by playing a sound byte of their master's last order. When Soundwave later picked up [[William Fowler|Agent Fowler]]'s transmissions, Starscream ordered the human be brought to him. This done, he attempted to interrogate Fowler, who responded not only responded with sarcasm but demanded to see the "manager". Starscream, enraged, called for an [[Energon prod]]. He offered Fowler one last chance, and when it was thrown back in his face, Starscream began jabbing Fowler with the prod, noting that energon and the human nervous system shouldn't mix.{{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 3}}

[[Image:Tfprimestarscreamsteppedon.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Bosses, always stepping on the little guy...]]
The torture eventually weakened Fowler to the point where he almost gave the location of the Autobot's base. However, the sound of battle outside brought about a bout of sarcasm. An annoyed Starscream shocked Fowler into unconsciousness before ordering a pair of Vehicons to find the source of the commotion. After Fowler regained consciousness, he proved to be dazed and incapable of answering anything. When Bulkhead and Bumblebee arrived and aimed their guns at Starscream, the 'Con in turn threatened to kill Fowler, only to discover that Arcee was perched above him, aiming her gun at his head. A stand off ensued, until another outburst by Fowler distracted Starscream, allowing the Autobots to fire on him. Realizing his disadvantage, Starscream fled. Once Megatron returned to the ship, he was outraged at Starscream's actions and proceeded to beat his subordinate for "delaying his plans". Starscream managed to quell his master's anger by announcing he had a way to get their plans back on course. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 4}}

[[Image:DarknessRising5-ohgeez.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Oh my God. It's called toothpaste, use it.]]
As it turned out, his plan was to send Soundwave down to use a radio dish array on Earth to set the space bridge's target. He kept a close eye on the team of Autobots who had appeared on the space bridge, confiding in Megatron that he thought they were up to something. When the space bridge appeared to veer off course, he contacted Soundwave to find out what was going on. Once the technical difficulties were sorted, Starscream opened the space bridge so that Megatron could throw the chunk of Dark Energon though. Starscream moved the ship back to a safe distance when the fighting on the rim of the space bridge became more intense, while imploring his master to withdraw as well. Alas, the space bridge exploded, apparently taking Megatron with it, and Starscream gave a brief eulogy before declaring himself leader. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 5}}

[[Image:Masters&Students-SoundwaveStarscream.jpg|thumb|250px|*ping* "FINE! FINE! I'LL WRITE A THANK-YOU NOTE!"]]

Hiding his joy at Megatron's demise, Starscream gave a speech to the troops, only for it to receive a lukewarm reception at best. Recalling that the Decepticons had left warriors on Earth to guard the energon deposits, Starscream took Soundwave to locate one. They found and reactivated [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]], but to Starscream's disappointment, the newly-awakened Decepticon was not keen on accepting him as leader and belted him aside when the opportunity came to attack Optimus Prime. Starscream still believed he could salvage the situation if Skyquake successfully killed Prime under his watch, however a signal Soundwave detected coming from the location of the space bridge explosion meant a reluctant Starscream had to go and check it out. He found Megatron's body floating in space, having barely survived the explosion by virtue of the Dark Energon infusion. Starscream ripped the sliver of Dark Energon from him, but then realised he was being observed by Soundwave's [[Deployer (Prime)|drone]], and was forced to take Megatron back to the sick bay on the ''Nemesis''. Along with the news that Skyquake had been defeated by the Autobots, it was not a good day for Starscream. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

Starscream's next plan, conceived when Soundwave detected a transmission from [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]], was to have [[Makeshift (Prime)|Makeshift]] masquerade as the Autobot and infiltrate the Autobot base in order to learn its whereabouts. Starscream paid a visit to the now-captive Wheeljack, who almost managed to goad Starscream into killing him. Soundwave stopped the killing blow, reminding Starscream that Wheeljack might be useful later. The two Decepticons retired to the upper hull to wait for Makeshift to activate the [[GroundBridge]], but while Starscream grew steadily impatient, Wheeljack broke free and climbed up to attack him. The GroundBridge opened and Wheeljack stormed through, but Starscream's order to his Vehicon troops came too late, as the GroundBridge closed. It opened again a short time later and Makeshift was thrown through, landing on Starscream. Starscream hoped Makeshift had at least discovered the base's location. Makeshift didn't get a chance to say, as Starscream spotted that the Autobots had triggered the grenade on his waist and flew off before it exploded. {{storylink|Con Job}} After Soundwave picked up on [[Dynamic Nuclear Generation System|another Autobot operation]], Starscream figured it was a good opportunity to get rid of the Autobots while they were distracted, and sent a squadron of Vehicons on a search and destroy mission (inadvertently exposing their existence to [[MECH]]). {{storylink|Convoy (episode)|Convoy}}

[[Image:DeusExMachina-Screamer grins.jpg|left|thumb|250px|"We've had too much Energon shed. I think that a cleansing is in order."]]
To Starscream's discomfort, the crew held a vote and he was obliged to call in [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] and [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] to aid in Megatron's recovery. The discovery that an [[Energon Harvester]] was located in an museum on Earth as all the excuse Starscream needed to put that on hold, and the other Decepticons soon obtained the device for him. He took it to [[Greece]] to try it out on an energon vein Breakdown had found there. When Knock Out tried to correct him on who had supplied the device, Starscream icily demonstrated its effectiveness on a passing Vehicon. When Bulkhead attacked them, Starscream turned the device on him as well, but then Bulkhead punched him in the face and broke the Harvester. When the rest of the Autobots arrived, and being ditched by Knock Out and Breakdown, Starscream fled. {{storylink|Deus ex Machina}}

While checking up on Megatron's repairs, Starscream was displeased to learn that Knock Out had engaged in street races with the humans. Starscream instructed Knock Out to seek his permission before engaging in such activity, and was exasperated that Knockout insisted on calling him "Commander" Starscream, instead of "Lord" Starscream, as he still believed Megatron was headed for death. When Knock Out returned having been bested by the Autobots after another street race, Starscream was furious, both at Knock Out's disobedience, and the fact that he still called him "Commander". Insisting that it was '''LORD''', Starscream decided to make an example of Knock Out, starting with a "cosmetic" punishment. {{storylink|Speed Metal}}

Some time later, after the ship's electromagnetic shielding failed, Starscream put the Vehicons to work fixing it. He enticed Knock Out into cooperating on the Megatron issue by offering the other 'Con a post as second-in-command. The pair attempted to persuade Soundwave that Megatron was a lost cause, and they should mercifully terminate their leader's life. Soundwave remained unconvinced and pointed out a strange cable attached to Megatron, which Starscream followed to find Arcee and Bumblebee. When Megatron's life support was damaged during the Autobots' exit, Starscream was overjoyed but reluctantly had to command Knock Out to reconnect the cable to keep Soundwave happy. Knock Out later informed him that though Megatron was still alive, his brain activity had ceased. {{storylink|Sick Mind}}

[[Image:OutOfHisHead-grabby.jpg|right|thumb|250px|That's NOT how ATB Megatron and Starscream combine!]]
Overjoyed at this development, Starscream taunted Megatron's body with the chunk of Dark Energon he'd previously extracted from it, and announced he was going to enact a new, epic plan that would prove him worthy of leadership to the other Decepticons. Once the Decepticons had stolen a large lens from an observatory in [[Hawaii]], Starscream had a heat ray constructed atop the ship, and began using it to melt a glacier to get to a huge energon deposit. Unfortunately the Autobots arrived, and Optimus was able to climb onto the ship. Starscream turned the heat ray onto the Autobot leader, but Optimus managed to slice the weapon, causing it to explode. An enraged Starscream prepared to terminate Optimus, only to be intercepted mid-dive by a resurrected Megatron. Megatron took his startled subordinate back to the ship, where Starscream first tried to weasel his way out of trouble, and then outright flee. Both attempts failed, and Megatron dragged the wailing Starscream away by his head. {{storylink|Out of His Head}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor'': [[Sam Riegel]] (English), [[Gianluca Iacono]] (Italian)
[[Image:WFC_Starscream.jpg|thumb|300px|Where are your stupid Macross jokes now?!]]
{{quote|Have no fear, Lord Megatron. Under my leadership, Decepticon victory is assured!|Starscream being all modest|''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]''}}

For the last thousand years of the [[Great War (Prime)|Great War]], Starscream was in charge of an orbital facility that had the capability of producing [[Dark Energon]], though they maintained only a small stockpile because of its unpredictable and uncontrollable nature. The station's force of neutral soldiers were no match for Megatron's invading forces, while Starscream and [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]]'s repeated warnings that no one could control Dark Energon had no effect on Megatron's determination. Instead, Megatron tempted Starscream with knowledge of his past, reminding him of his demotion from Sky Commander to a mere guard over an all-but-derelict station, and offered to let him join the Decepticons, something Starscream scoffed at — at least, at first. Starscream attempted to destroy the station's stock of Dark Energon before the Decepticon leader could reach it, but failed, and watched, first with amusement as Megatron entered the storage chamber...and then with shock as Megatron infused himself with the substance and bent it to his will within moments. Starscream quickly volunteered his services for the Decepticon cause, causing Jetfire to label him a traitor and leave to warn Zeta Prime. Megatron sent him with [[Thundercracker (WFC)|Thundercracker]] and [[Skywarp (WFC)|Skywarp]] to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to reactivate the [[Energon Bridge]]. Starscream performed the mission successfully using his trademark style, flair, and modesty, never mind Megatron's taunting and unreasonable impatience, or Thundercracker's warning him of the danger of certain courses of action, or even Skywarp's cluing in to his constant insults... Later on, he was present at the Core of Cybertron as Megatron corrupted it with Dark Energon.

During the Battle of [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon City]], Starscream led the Decepticons aerial squadrons and [[Brawl (WFC)|Brawl]] led the Decepticons' ground assault, while Megatron, [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]], and [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] went behind enemy lines and tried to secure the [[Omega Key]]. When Megatron's group met up with Brawl, Starscream refused to send Dark Energon bombers, saying that he wouldn't let Brawl waste anymore of "his ships". Megatron took issue with Starscream dubbing the bombers his, and overrode Starscream's refusal. Later that evening, while looking for the "real" Omega Key, they ran into it: [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]]. Starscream assumed Megatron was killed when Omega attacked a dropship Megatron was heading for and declared himself Decepticon commander. Shortly afterward, Megatron managed to communicate with Starscream and ordered him to attack Omega Supreme, getting the massive Autobot off of Megatron's back. By the time Megatron's group were heading for the [[Ion turret]]s, Starscream was ready to sound a retreat, which Megatron overrode with the threat of marking any retreating Decepticon as "kill on sight". Fortunately, Megatron arrived moments later and managed to defeat Omega Supreme, making the retreat unnecessary.

As the Battle of Iacon continued, Starscream fought through Jetfire and [[Silverbolt (WFC)|Silverbolt]], and attacked [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]]'s group in the [[Decagon]]. However, the Air Commander was injured by Optimus's [[Energon-axe]] and forced to retreat. The wound was apparently bad enough to cause him to sit out the remainder of the conflict. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}
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===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
:''Voice actor'': Sam Riegel (English), Gianluca Iacono (Italian)
Starscream had been in control of Trypticon Space Station for years, until Megatron and his forces invaded. Megatron wished to revive the Dark Energon project to aid him in his conquest of Cybertron, but Starscream would have none of it. Megatron was able to fight his way to Starscream himself, and after a brief battle, Starscream had lost. He begged for mercy, and Megatrons spared Starscream in exchange for loyalty to the Decepticons. Starscream obliged and Megatron was taken to the core of the station.

After a test run of the Dark Energon's effects on Decepticons in Kaon Prison, Soundwave deduced the element would only destroy the host. A furious Megatron set Starscream to work on fixing the problem, with Starscream continuously bickering with Barricade over his usefullness. The problem was eventually solved in time for an attack on Iacon City. When Megatron felled Zeta Prime and found the Omega Key, the titanic Autobot Omega Supreme was unleashed upon the Decepticons, quickly crushing them with ease.

Megatron was downright furious with Starscream, declaring he had brought Omega Supreme's rampage upon them all. Starscream retorted that if it wasn't for Megatron and his blind troops, none of this would've happened. Starscream invited Megatron to kill him, but warned him it wouldn't do a thing about Omega Supreme out for their blood. Megatron for the moment let it go, and finally felled Omega Supreme, gaining total dominance over Cybertron.

Sometime later, Starscream ambushed an [[Autobot rookie|Autobot recruit-in-training]], and would've killed him if it wasn't for Optimus charging to the rescue. He wasn't seen again after that.
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===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===
:''Voice actor'': Sam Riegel (English), Gianluca Iacono (Italian)

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==Toys==
===''War for Cybertron''===
[[Image:WFC_Legends_Starscream.jpg|thumb|300px|So I'm ''Cybertron'' Starscream in G1 Starscream colors as ''Prime'' Starscream. Confused? '''Good!''' *blam*]]
*'''Starscream''' (Legends Class, 2010)

: This redeco of Legends Class [[Cybertron (toyline)|''Cybertron'']] [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] appeared pretty much out of the blue one day, when, without fanfare, it was offered as a promotional giveaway in the United Kingdom to those who purchased the ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'' video game from [http://www.shopto.net ShopTo.Net]. He transforms into a Cybertronic jet fighter and features hidden weapons in his wing-sections/biceps: the right arm hides a blade, while the left arm has a non-firing cannon.

:This toy was later offered as a gift to attendees at the Animation-Comic-Game Hong Kong fair 2010 if they made a combined purchase of [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|''Transformers'' toys]] amounting to more than HK$400.

:This mold was also used the make ''Cybertron'' [[Ramjet (Universe)#Cybertron|Ramjet]], [[Skywarp (Armada)#Cybertron|Skywarp]] and [[Sunstorm (LOC)#Toys|Sunstorm]], along with ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' [[Ramjet (G1)#Universe (2008)|Ramjet]] and [[Thrust (G1)#Universe (2008)|Thrust]].
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===''Prime''===
[[Image:Primetoy-StarscreamDeluxe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|He's got legs, and he knows how to attach them to the underside of his jetmode.]]
*'''Starscream''' (Deluxe Class, 2011)
: Deluxe Class Starscream transforms from a jet resembling a [[Wikipedia:General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon|General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon]] to a robot and back! He and the rest of his wave are due [[October 11]], [[2011]].
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==Notes==
[[Image:Tfprimestarscreamjet.jpg|right|250px|thumb|''ooooo-ooooo/We fade to grey!'']]
*Starscream's backstory in Exodus is self-contradictory:
:''"Not even Starscream, who had spent much of his scientific career in the labs contained within these refracting walls..."'' (p. 78).
:''"See what?" Starscream asked. Neither Starscream nor Megatron were scientists."'' (p. 158).
:*When asked via Twitter, Exodus's writer [[Alex Irvine]] stated "Let's say he's always been scientifically curious."<ref>[http://twitter.com/alexirvine/status/36051088754868224 Twitter post]</ref>
*Starscream's thin body recalls [[Starscream (Animated)|''Animated'' Starscream]], but his voice, colour scheme, Igor-like posture and subservience to Megatron recalls the [[Starscream (Movie)|live-action incarnation]]. The game design has the movie bulk but with a [[Starscream (G1)|G1]] head and colours.
*Starscream's chest design is basically his live-action incarnation's head design. Now that's a visual homage.
*''Prime'''s Starscream has [[Starscream (SG)|a red Decepticon insignia]].
*[[Steve Blum]] said he was a fan of [[Charlie Adler]] and [[Tom Kenny]]'s portrayals of Starscream, and had Adler give him his blessing after he got the part.<ref>[http://sknr.net/2011/04/20/steve-blum-talks-transformers-prime-guild-wars-2-bulletstorm-more/ Skewed magazine Steve Blum interview.]</ref>

==Footnotes==
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[[Category:Exclusives]]
[[Category:Hall of Fame]]
[[Category:Prime Decepticons]]
[[Category:Scientists]]
[[Category:Seekers]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]

Talk:Cliffjumper (WFC)

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[[Image:TfprimeCliffjumperCar.jpg|thumb|No, seriously, he's going to take you down to Jabroni Drive. Hop in already, he wants to beat the rush hour traffic.]]

== I'm not supposed to die! ==
We need to work in a reference to this line from [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419706/quotes Doom] somewhere. Tongue in cheek trivia note maybe? --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 01:40, 5 December 2010 (EST)

== United Cliffjumper ==

There's a dead deep link from Generations Cliffjumper to G1 Cliffjumper's page implying that Takara's version of WFC Cliffjumper is characterized as an incarnation of G1 Cliffjumper. Since there's no toy listing on G1 Cliffjumper's page, I'm really confused now. Is there evidence that Takara considers WFC as part of the G1 continuity? Or is this just completely "Takara makes everything part of G1" conjecture?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 08:22, 8 December 2010 (EST)

== WFC Alt mode ==

I have checked both Cliffjumpers's and Bumblebee altmodes in the game (DS version) and I have noticed that their altmodes are slightly different. Clifjumper's is more square and angular resembling Animated Bumblebee, while Bumblebee's is rounder, lacking the extra angular details Cliffjumper has. Is it worth noting?-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 02:02, 7 February 2011 (EST)
:That could probably be slipped into the toy description, like pointing out that his toy's not accurate to his appearance in the game. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:40, 7 February 2011 (EST)
::Can I slip it in the "notes" section?-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 19:09, 11 February 2011 (EST)

== Main page is locked so I'll bring this up here ==

(an announcement that was actually very low-key,[1] but you know, fandoms)
I find the above line to be excessive, does every new page have to be full of obvious snark against fans? It used to be a little more subtle, but now the word "fandom" pops as much as "this troper" does on tvtropes and I hate to see any site become more like that place ugh. My gripe also goes with how some random dude posting something on some board=the entire opinion of the base.
:No, it's definitely true, and hardly "snarky" and "against fans". As one of those guys ''Totally Psyched'' at the idea of seeing The Rock voice Cliffjumper, I have to say it was indeed the fandom blowing it out of proportion because we're a fandom and we pay closer attention and spread out small announcements like that. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:14, 28 February 2011 (EST)
::Indeed. I saw a LOT of boards go totally apeshit over Johnson's casting. And I can't say I blame them, I was stoked all to hell too. But, well, we, and I mean "we as a fandom", blew it out of proportion. We took that tiny tidbit and assumed more than the news snippets ever implied, built it up to an amazing degree. It's what fandoms do. In this case, it's a pretty harmless result, but still. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:55, 1 March 2011 (EST)

== pic ==

should his picture be changed to a more clearer one?

== pic ==

should his picture be changed to a more clearer one?

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2011

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{{yearofthe|2011}}

The year '''2011''' (MMXI) is the twenty-eighth year of the [[Transformers brand]].

{{see|Transformers timeline}}


==Media==
===Television===
* ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers Prime]]'' Season 1: episodes 6–??

=== Theatrical ===
* ''[[Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''

==Comics==
=== IDW ===
* ''[[The Transformers (IDW)|The Transformers]]'' (issues 15–26, ongoing ''scheduled'')
* ''[[Infestation (IDW)|Infestation]]'' (issues 1–2, 2 issues)
* ''[[The Transformers: Infestation]]'' (issues 1–2, 2 issues)
* ''[[Transformers: Prime (comic)|Transformers: Prime]]'' (issues 1–4, 4 issues)
* ''[[Transformers: Sector 7]]'' (issue 5, 5 issues)
* ''[[The Transformers: Drift]]'' TPB
* ''[[...For All Mankind|The Transformers Hundred Penny Press Edition]] (Reprint of IDW first ongoing issue for US$1)

=== Titan Magazines ===
* TBD

=== Kerokero Ace ===
* ''[[The Cool|Transformers Animated: The Cool]] - Special Edition''

== Books ==
* TBD

== Games ==
* TBD

== Collections ==
=== Video ===
==== [[Paramount Pictures|Paramount Home Video]] (Japan) ====
'''DVD'''
* ''Transformers Animated'' — Vol. 6
* ''Transformers Animated'' — Vol. 7

== Merchandise ==
* TBD

== Toys ==
===Animated===
* [[Black Rodimus]]
* [[Optimus Prime (Animated)/toys#Activators|Clear Activator Optimus Prime]]

===Transformers (2010)===
====Activators====
* Activators [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Rally Rumble Bumblebee]]
* Activators [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Rally Rumble Optimus Prime]]
====Deluxes====
* Deluxe [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Bumblebee]]
* [[Kup (G1)#Generations|Sergeant Kup]]
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Gen 2 Optimus Prime]]
* [[Perceptor (G1)#Transformers (2010)|Perceptor]]
* [[Scourge (G1)#Generations|Scourge]]
* [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Wheeljack]]
* [[Wreck-Gar (G1)#Transformers (2010)|Wreck-Gar]]
====Human Alliance====
* Human Alliance [[Sideswipe (ROTF)#Human Alliance 2|Shadow Blade Sideswipe]] w/ [[Mikaela Banes]]
====Legends====
* Legends [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Gold Bumblebee]]
* Legends [[Prowl (G1)/toys#transformers (2010)|Prowl]]
* [[Trailbreaker (G1)#Transformers (2010)|Trailcutter]]
====Scouts====
* [[Chopsaw]]
====Voyagers====
* [[Deep Dive]]
* [[Grapple#Transformers (2010)|Solar Storm Grappel]]
* [[Highbrow (TF 2010)|Highbrow]]
* [[Lugnut (TF 2010)|Lugnut]]
* [[Strafe (TF 2010)|Strafe]]

===Power Core Combiners===
* [[Heavytread (PCC)|Heavytread]] w/ [[Groundspike]]
* [[Salvage (Movie)|Salvage]] w/ [[Bomb-Burst (PCC)|Bomb-Burst]]
* [[Skyhammer (PCC)|Skyhammer]] w/ [[Airlift (PCC)|Airlift]]
* [[Over-Run (PCC)|Over-Run]] w/ [[Stunticon (PCC)|Stunticon]] drones
* [[Undertow (PCC)|Undertow]] w/ [[Waterlog (PCC)|Waterlog]]

===Timelines===
* [[Side Burn (Timelines)|Side Burn]]

===Dark of the Moon===
* TBD

===BotCon===
* [[Dead End (Animated)|Dead End]]
* TBD

===Prime===
* [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]]
* [[Arcee (Prime) |Arcee]]
* [[Starscream (Prime) |Starscream]]
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[[Category:Lists]]
[[Category:Real-world events by year]]

Dwayne Johnson

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[[Image:TheRock.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Do you hear who The Rock is voicing?]]
'''Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson''' ([[May 2]], [[1972]] - ) used to be a professional wrestler for World Wrestling Entertainment, where he was a nine-time world champion. Then he starred in a bunch of movies such as ''The Scorpion King'', ''Get Smart'', and ''[[Tooth Fairy]]''. Now he voices [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]].

This is awesome. [[Darkness Rising, Part 1|Or so we thought.]]

==''Transformers: Prime''==
*[[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]]

==Notes==
* Dwayne's "The Rock" persona was the inspiration for the [[Mini-Con]] [[Smackdown]]'s bio.
* He must be pisssed at this show

==External links==
*[[wikipedia:Dwayne Johnson|Dwayne Johnson]] at Wikipedia
*[http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=9&itemid=16333 ''G.I.Joe: Renegades'' Voice Cast Breakdown]

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