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Talk:Transformers: Universe (comic)

2008-04-02T03:58:59Z

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Shouldn't Wreker's come before Universe?

This stuff doesn't belong on the 3H page, their comics should have their own page. It's not like there isn't lots of stuff about 3H to write an article about, although I'm certainly not the one to do it. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 07:24, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Can an admin change this entry from "3H" to (for example) "3H (comics)"? Suki makes a fair point, but I don't see anything wrong with the article, per se. Just that it needs to be comics-specific.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 18:33, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I've been beaten to it, but for future reference, you don't need to be an admin to move an article. Just click on move on the top bar and put where you want to move the article to. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 19:23, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

==Seperate pages for each issue?==
Is there a reason why there are not separate articles for each issue? Shouldn't this page look like [[The Gathering]]? That little box with links to each issue? --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 19:42, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
: There should be, yes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
::We use names of stories as article titles (instead of "Issue #2" for example), is that correct? ''The Wreckers'' #1 has two stories: ''Departure'' and ''Primeval Dawn, Part 1''. What would the name of the article be? This question applies to the other issues as well. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 22:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

== scans ==

Looking for scans of a few parts so I can figure out what the hell is going on. I haven't been able to find Primevil Dawn pt2, or Universe 2 and 3 (I've found scans labeled Universe 3, but they're actually Wreckers issue 3) anyone know where to look? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 22:43, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

==Why Another Comic?==
I'm pretty sure that doing ''Universe'' was due entirely to Hasbro pressure. I seem to recall Glen almost had to beg Hasbro to let him try to finish Wreckers rather than just drop it then and there forever as they wanted him to. Walky or Graham would remember better than I. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
: That sounds correct. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
I'd just like to boast a little that the Finale was well-recieved. Okay, there was at least one guy so upset about Roddy that he vandalized my wiki page, but I thought that was hilarious. Really brightened my day. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

==Primeval Dawn==
Would anybody get too riled up if I split Primeval Dawn off onto its own set of pages? As-is, it feels kinda lost amid all the ''Wreckers'' stuff, and the individual ''Wreckers'' issue pages are pretty long already. PD makes them messy to boot. A note on each ''Wreckers'' issue can link to the Primeval Dawn segment published in that issue. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 03:40, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
: Knock yerself out. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

==Continuity==
Does the Universe/Wreckers and other convention comics fall under any umbrella continuity? I was informed that while this takes place after the Beast Machines cartoon continuity, as it contained elements of G2 (like the Beast Wars cartoon), it cannot be placed under the G1 cartoon continuity. So where do we put it? At the moment the Wreckers Universe comic sections are kind of floating vaugley around the modern G1 comics from Dreamwave and IDW. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:53, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
: It goes under the "Beast Era" heading, same as BW/BM. --Walky<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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2008-04-02T03:38:53Z

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==Captions==
Not to try and start a fight or anything, but who made you the arbiter of what makes a "good" caption or not? If you don't have a better caption to put there, then do you really need to edit it out? If you have something better, go ahead and edit it in, but there's was it really necassary to remove all of my changes?

I mean, I though the "Amazing what 23 years will do to ones physique" one was pretty clever, myself.--[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 09:49, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
: Because I say so and I am a jerk! *puts on a crown and purple cloak of royalty*. Seriously, that one you quoted was okay, I accidently pruned that one, but I wasn't hot on some of the others. In my opinion, captions should be thought about, and we shouldn't just caption a pic for the sake of having a caption or doing a joke. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:27, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

==Movie toy information==
We should not put information about leaked/stolen/whatever test shots on the wiki. It's been an unspoken rule since, well, forever, but I guess we need to put it in writing somewhere. It's just not cool. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:08, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
: Actually, we have that "Coming Soon" tag made SPECIFICALLY for this (well, and Fan Club stuff). --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

:: What I find amusing is that I merely modified (slightly) the Energon Arcee toy description. Eh. *Shrugs shoulders* Whatever. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:03, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
::: You also wrote the entire toy write-up for Blackout's Voyager toy and also recently wrote a description of Optimus Prime's 3" titanium figurine. You seem to be writing the bulk of the movie toy writeups. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:34, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Yep, I wrote/expanded half or more of the toy articles on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:51, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
::::: That's cool, and more than appreciated, but in the future, let's wait until we have more than test shots to do so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:53, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::: Aren't you absolutely '''amazed''' at how I was able to deduce the transformation sequence and gimmick of toys I've never seen in person? My engineering schooling did pay off! :-O --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:56, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

You're kind of missing the point. It's the OFFICIALNESS of the information and the slippery slope of putting in stuff that's not officially announced. We don't want this wiki to become yet another goddamn Internet Rumor Dumping Ground. See: [[Help:Coming_soon]] --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:54, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

:No, I'm not missing the point. I'm just dancing around it like the salsa. Ole! --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
How many times do we have to remind you, FFN? No stolen information. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:52, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, that was TX55. Whoops, I misread the history. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:58, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Bad Sipher! Bad ratting out the wrong guy to me! Sorry, FFN. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

==Profile pics==
I don't think we're adhering to "fair use" if every single page on the wiki uses art scanned from the DW MTMTE books. Try to reel it in some! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
: Nah, I won't be doing that. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:: But you are doing it! It's why I brought it up. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
::You ''might'' wanna clarify exactly ''what'' it is you won't be doing. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:::It was a joke, as in "Nah, I won't be doing what you just asked me to do." --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:43, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
::::Just a thought - what is the limit on the usage of pictures ultimately owned by Hasbro? Dreamwave as a company no longer exists. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::Well, IDW plans to publish the MTMTE books, so I think we have to also take that into consideration. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 07:47, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
::::::Oh well, at least I gave pics to articles that didn't originally have pics/wrong models by Dery/crappy G1 box art. I'll stop for... awhile *mysterious* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I like G1 boxart. Especially Omega Supreme's. -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

==Underscores==
You don't need to put underscores in links. The format is just <nowiki>[[something (whatever)|something]]</nowiki>, not <nowiki>[[something_(whatever)|something]]</nowiki>. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 17:39, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Alright thanks, though I might forget and put them anyway, occasionally. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:41, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

== Miranda II ==

And there I thought someone would complain about bashing, or something. :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
: I'm pretty sure Energon is fair game. You know, like NAMbLA. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
:: Yeah, when you ruin [[Demolishor|a perfectly good, interesting character]] by resurrecting him as a gorilla-like dump truck who serves only as slapstick comic relief (and not even good comic relief), you deserve everything you get, stupid Takara Marketing and WE'VE! *shakes fist of fanboy fury* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
::: Man. Demolishor's article needs, like, made not crap. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
:::: Feel free to do so. I get too fanboyish for this wiki whenever I write about stuff I like (like Armada Starscream). --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

==Formatting==
It's not all that messy-looking if the main image juts into fiction section some of the time. I find it's a case-by-case scenario. [[Miranda II]] looked fine with the jut, but not so much to make it worth editing it back the other way. It's not a hard and fast rule, is what I guess I'm saying. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
: The problem is by having the main picture jut into the main text body, you have the text bunched up to one side, and it pushes the edit link into the middle of the screen. Frankly that looks chaotic.
::Not really. Not on that article, no. It just looked like text wrapped around an image. To me, it looked much cleaner the other way. See how subjective this is? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

:The way I see it, we should use it when the article has relatively few sub-sections (which leads to a smaller Contents menu), or when the main picture is relatively long (like a profile picture of a character). Or when using it doesn't create a huge gap between the introductory text/main pic, the contents menu and the main body of text in the article. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:31, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
::Can't you just... make the image smaller if this is such a problem? I find blank white space to be incredibly hideous, moreso than a misplaced edit link. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 17:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Depends on the picture itself. Some images deserve to be big, because they look great or because the focus would be hard to see. Misplaced links and pics into text reminds me of late 90s fanpages. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

== All those toypics you've uploaded ==

Toypics don't get a hastak tag unless they are offical images (say stock photos). Photos of objects (except scans or photos containing only printed material) are copyright of whoever took the picture. Hasbro holds just as much right to the copyright for a unoffical toypic as say, Sony owns the rights for a picture of my computer. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 03:06, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

:The problem is some of those toy pics are scans out of some official publication, or some official picture that the fansite edited together. So I give copyright to Hasbro, but credit to the site, especially if I cannot find the original official pictures. Sometimes I forget to use fairuse on specifically fan-shot photographs. If it bothers you that much, feel free fix all the picture pages with fairuse.--[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:06, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

== anonymous and minor edits ==

Just do you know, anonymous editors don't have a minor edit option. Dunno why, though.
:Odd - maybe its to spur us into suggesting them to register? :P --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

== Safeword debate ==
Hi there, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]] here. I appreciate that you think the link to the definition of "safeword" is a little much (although, frankly, I've seen some pretty risque stuff on this wiki anyway), and although I disagree I'm happy for the link to be removed. However, I think it is definitely an overreaction to change the caption; after all I added that specific image solely for the purpose of that joke. Without the link young kids won't get it and won't be "harmed", and those who do get it are alread in the know. However, rather than just unilaterally reverting it (sans link), I thought I'd give you the opportunity to discuss the matter further if you wish. If I don't hear from you back on my talk page in a few days, then I'll change it back.
Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]]
:: Yeah, you're probably right about that; if it goes over their heads, let it. I'll change it back without the link. Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:::FFN, you mentioned that you changed the caption back to the clean joke because nobody refuted your point... The thing is, I haven't been able to find where you made your argument for its change in the first place. Not on Starscream's talk page, and not here... How can we refute your point if no one knows where it is? That being said, I personally agree with Pacifist Prime. It's no more offensive or risque than some of the other stuff on here (i.e. [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] or anything relating to [[Kiss Players]]), and without the link it's no longer harmful in the slightest. Besides, the new caption is pretty lame and practically screams, "I couldn't think of anything better than this." - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 06:55, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
::::I was referring to my discussion with Walky over MP Starscream's incorrect F-15E colours, and I sorta reverted Walky's edit back to the original with modifications (with hooperx's Titanium 3" caption) to my original MP Starscream paragraph, with added notes about Starscream's other glaring inaccuracies. That's what I meant by 'nobody refuted my point'.
:::: At no point did I change the safeword caption, given that Pacifist Prime and I already resolved that, like, weeks ago, and I advised that to make the joke work, he didn't need to link the meaning for people, because '''A.''' The link to the meaning is abit inappropriate given our wiki's topic, and '''B.''' Its hitting people over the head with the joke. If the joke flies over people's heads, let it.
::::If you had checked the article history, or the Recent changes page, you'll see an anonymous user made the change to the caption. In any case, it wasn't me. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:57, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::Ah, see, I saw your comment in the history that said something about reverting to a previous caption because no one refuted your point, and assumed this was what you were referring to. My apologies. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 20:18, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
:::::: No worries. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:52, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

== MP Megs importation to Australia. ==
Well, what can I say? I got mine (two of them, in fact: one for my buddy) from HobbyLinkJapan (scum) with no troubles. Customs didn't even open it. Maybe I was just lucky, but I suspect that those toyshops only got that response from the fuzz because they asked in the first place. In fact, they may very well have tipped them off and made it harder for everyone else to import them now. Who knows? Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
: Um, hi. This is actually somewhat old news, as I haven't checked in for a week or so, but I respectfully suggest that you're overracting just a whisker. I was unaware that there had been further developments for other Australian fans importing the MP-05; as I've stated elsewhere I don't spend any time on discussion boards so I wouldn't know about any of that. If my original few lines on the subject (admittedly based solely on my personal experience of problem-free importation) is no longer representative of the majority, then I have no objection whatsoever to the text being revised.
: However, I think that your edit is a bit of an overlong rave and (at the risk of sounding more Seppocentric than is my wont) I have to say that I don't think Australia's situation really requires as much text as that concerning the States'. Furthermore, I think that your rebuttal "Eat '''that''', Australia" is particularly uneccessary. First of all it sounds like a rather mean-spirited bit of one-upmanship over a comment which, although I'll conceed ''was'' smug, was only meant in the kind of good humour that this site broadly embraces (such as its pervasive mockery of Japanese fiction). Your comment sounds quite barbed by comparison, in my opinion. But regardless of any issues of opinion it frankly doesn't make sense, because it is referring to a previous edit which no longer exists in the current text, so to any newcomer reading it the comment has no context. For this reason most of all I have taken it upon myself to remove that one line, but I have left your preceding paragraph untouched. However I urge you to reconsider its neccessity and respectfully suggest that you cut it down considerably.
: All the best, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].

:: If you are so offended by the fact I made fun of Australia (and I suspect its abit of misplaced patriotism right after ANZAC day), then you shouldn't make fun of America, especially given our toy gun laws are even harsher. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

:::Err... okay. I respectfully suggest that you're missing the point: I'm not offended, nor am I particularly patriotic. In fact, I'm a dual Austalian/American citizen, so your comments regarding my national identity are actually fairly irrelevant. And uncalled for. Don't you think personal remarks on this site are a bit untoward?
:::I just think that your edit gives the impression of being a bit personal, as though you were miffed about my original text, rather than containing material of particular relevance to other readers/users, especially your sardonic rebuttal. Again, my original crack was intended in good humour, so it seems that it is you who are the one getting offended. Perhaps this is not the case, and if so I apologise.
:::But regardless of that I still maintain that the content makes little sense. Please re-read my previous post for my reasons for this.
::: Ta, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:::: Sorry mate. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::: It's okay, I just don't understand what it is about my edits that seem to routinely rub you up the wrong way. I'm just trying to get into the spirit of the site and its refreshingly relaxed attitude compared to other uptight wikis like Wookieepedia. You seem to know a fair bit about Australia, and I'm certainly not out to offend anyone, but you seem to take exception to a fair bit of what I have to say. I don't really understand. [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].
:::::: Dr. Fang says its because I'm high-strung. And I'm kind of an asshole. Sorry about that, chap. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:19, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
::::::: Okay then, I guess. So, will you please consider trimming the Australian stuff on the MP-05? I just honestly doubt other people need to know so much about gun laws. Cheers, [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]].

== Admin ==
*Excuse me I'm looking for a admin here, do you know where I can find one?[[User:Troyb|Troyb]]<sup>[[User talk:Troyb|(CIS ShadowFeed)]] [[Special:Contributions/User:Troyb|contribs]]</sup>[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 16:09, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

: Hi, unfortunately, I believe they're all at [[BotCon]] right now. Specifically they probably just left the Hasbro product panel. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:12, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

*Grr because I'm here from the new Transfanon wiki, were knida your sister wiki or whatever and I'm a buericrate there so I need someone to tell others about it.[[User:Troyb|Troyb]]<sup>[[User talk:Troyb|(CIS ShadowFeed)]] [[Special:Contributions/User:Troyb|contribs]]</sup>[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 18:31, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

::From the community portal - The admins for this Wiki are [[User:ItsWalky]] and [[User:Suki Brits]]. Just leave them a message and they'll get back sooner or later. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:57, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

==Screencaps==

Where'd you download the movie? You seem to have uploaded some pretty high quality images of the movie that haven't appeared in any of the trailers

:They're all from the trailers and tv spots (highres, low res ect). For instance, the pic of Figueroa reacting to Sgt. Donnelly is from 'Vibration', released around May 22nd. Prime transforming in Mission City and the pics of Bumblebee standing around are from 'Freakout' (June 15). Prime jumping on/towards Megatron, Ironhide transforming and shooting his cannons in a somersault are from the Superherohype exclusive trailer that was also played during an NBA playoff or something on June 24. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

==Animated toy pictures==

Well, the official pictures of the toy wont come out for a LOOOOONG time, so untill then, I'm uploading some bad, blurry ones, because they STILL better than nothing. Tried to give a long description of Lockdown, but somebody just deleted it easly. Also, almost all pictures at the animated ones are blurry and in weird angles, so not mines are the first. And I made them with Paint, not Powerpoint.

:That still doesn't mean we just dump any pics onto this wiki. The series and the toyline won't be out for a long time, so no real reason to have a bunch of pictures now, given there is relatively little information about the series itself.

:Powerpoint as in, Hasbro's powerpoint presentation at SDCC. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

:: Actually, we know pretty mutch about the series and the toys, but you guys don't let any info of it to be putten on, because they're "leaked". So that's it. --[[User:Hepathos|Hepathos]] 21:36, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

:::Any information that isn't official released about a project that is coming soon does not belong here because this wiki (usually) follows what is official, not what is unconfirmed. If you want rumour-mongering, go to the wikipedia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

==Stubs==
Why do you move the stub tags to the top of pages? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:42, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:I feel that Articles that need some filling out should say 'HEY! This article really needs work!' in an obvious manner. Its one of the things other wikis do that I think we should emulate, if only to get people (either registered or unregistered) to finish off these articles. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
::If what needed filling out was easy and simple to do, maybe, but filling some stubs would take weeks of solid work, so having a giant skyscraper of tags at the top of several articles seems excessively frustrating. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I forgot most of you guys run at lower resolution (judging by screencaps), so I misjudged how bad the messageboxes would be. Sorry man. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:16, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

==Vector Sigma==
[[User:Lordhighannoyingstarscream|Lordhighannoyingstarscream]] 21:05, 16 January 2008 (UTC) I am a new user here and I am also sorry for the caption thing, but i just discovered that someone took away all the humourous captions and sarcasm in [[Vector Sigma]]'s info page. he is a somwhat important character so I think somebody should look into that. I also had an idea for the [[Unicron trilogy]] so if yoyu wanna fix anything i put a basic theme there as well as some content and images.
:As you may or may not (probably not, I'm guessing) have read, we ''do'' use serious captions on occasion, when there's a need to convey information that isn't obvious from the text. Vector Sigma's article is one such instance. Please go to [[Transformers_Wiki:Caption|this page]] and read carefully. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:21, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

==Bonecrusher quote==
Since Bonecrusher doesn't speak in the film, could you put an attribution for the quote you added to the top of his page? I'm sure I'm not the only one who will wonder where he said it. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 17:42, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
: Sorry, I'm writing up his Target comic #2 appearance now for that, but it would help if you can respond to the talk page question on the Transformers (2007) page regarding what we should refer to the comics as, so I can actually reference it in the quote, among other things. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
::Bonecrusher has only 2 lines in 'Ghosts,' and this is neither. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:03, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, like I said, its from the new Target-exclusive comic on their robovision site. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:11, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

== Suggestions ==

Why don't I suggest on creating a page about [[Popular Cybertronian vehicle alternate modes]]? If the Earth and Beast gets a popular vehicle alternate modes page so does Cybertron.([[User:Soldier 79|Soldier 79]] 10:35, 20 October 2007 (UTC))
:Because with Earth vehicles there are identifiable models and designs that are recognisable. With Cybertronian vehicles they are 'generic futuristic car/truck/plane/spaceship'. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:38, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
More reasons why to create it. You are an awesome person, Megatron often turns into mostly a Cybertronian vehicle, Earth Vehicle modes page has a rule like 3 toy models and finally it is better that way. Plus Transformers Animated will have one heck of alot of Autobots and Decepticons that turn into Cybertronian vehicles.([[User:Soldier 79|Soldier 79]] 10:43, 20 October 2007 (UTC))

== Screencap requests ==
Hey there, if you're in a screen-cappin' mood, there's a few shots we could really use for the cartoon's main page. Specifically:
* The Decepticons' undersea HQ
* The space bridge receiver ring -- maybe while it's firing its rays into the clouds or while the rocks and stuff are floating up.
* Season 1 opening credits -- maybe Prime & co while they're on that giant flying Autobot symbol, and/or the TF logo flying at the viewer.
* I'd like to see a higher-quality cap of the standard view of Cybertron. That's a shot which deserves a high-res view, IMO.
* I'm trying to think of a really iconic scene/moment from Season 3, but drawing a blank.
If you got the time and inclination, thanks! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 22:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

:I'll see what I can do. I only picked up Madman's set on sunday, and I'm currently working through the G1 episodes chronologically, or characters who really needed cartoon image representation.

:I'm not sure about the Season 1 opening credits - by the time we see Prime and co, they are either too indistinct to make out in a wide view, and the camera is already focusing entirely on Prime when they are clear enough for the viewer to see. I'll see what I can do, but I'll have to go through the episodes because the Madman sets use the broadcast masters, so some episodes are almost as clean and colourful as Rhino's, but others aren't so good. So this means trawling through episodes to find good, clean images of more generic shots like the intro or often-seen sequences such as the spacebridge. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

::Fair enough. No hurry. The "The Transformers" logo from the opening credits might be fine too, if the Autobot symbol thing isn't clear; it's got a pretty distinct look IIRC.
::And, crap. For a second there you got my hopes up that there might be a flawless DVD release of G1... but it sounds like they have Rhino's screwy sound effects. Ah well! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:56, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, it certainly has the best packaging and presentation of any available set now - the outer cardboard box even has a bio panel detailing the features and a fake tech spec meter rating the 'Story', 'Action, 'Features' and 'Appeal'. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:09, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

==Image Editing==
A while back, you brought up the grid-backgrounds on the CG Galaxy Force character images. Those are probably simple enough (since they're on a white BG already) that it won't take me a lot of time to do them, but in general I don't know what Photoshop trickier goes into quickly cleaning images... I usually just use the Eraser tool, which, with my tendency to be distracted, can wind up taking several hours. Is there some easier way to get a white background?

(On that topic, uh, y'think you can take a stab at [http://s90690880.onlinehome.us/tfscans/TheBattleStars01.jpg these]?) --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 12:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

:Depending on the quality of the image (lack of jpeg artefacts and the resolution), how busy the background image is and if the background somehow intersects with the image you want to preserve or not, one of the easiest ways I've found is to simply use the magic wand to cut out the background elements. In the end, I also the eraser, and yeah, it take a bloody long time. Does Walky know? I would assume he's more skilled with Photoshop than I.

: Who do we need out of that image? Grandus, I assume? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:10, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::I uploaded the Grandus image on his [[Grandus|page]]. Can you fill out the image's details? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:37, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

:Thanks! Grandus was one of them, yeah, but also Sixliner... hm. Do you think we could use that painted Grandus In Base Mode art as his main pic, with the one you edited in the main body, or vice versa? We'd drop the three-Battlestar picture from his article, which would still be in the main Battlestar article. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 23:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

==Short image file names==

I give them short titles, because they're far from perfect, and only temporaly. If they surely get's changed, I just short it so the next pic uploader don't get into trouble with a similar picture description. --[[User:Hepathos|Hepathos]] 11:53, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== Sky Lynx and It's-A-Bird-Plane-Lynx Caption ==

''That caption doesn't really work.''

The caption I added was A) descriptive of the pic (Sky Lynx is "up in the sky"), B) descriptive of the character (he is a (dino)bird, a (space)plane, and a lynx), and C) adequately captures the ego and magnificence of the character by equating him with Superman. So, please elaborate on your objection. [[User:JW|JW]] 12:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

:I don't think it's very funny. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:36, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

::Well, we'll have to disagree about that. Regardless, the first rule of this wiki (in 100px text on [[Talk:Main Page]]) is "The funny stays." Removing a caption and replacing it with ''nothing'' is a violation of both the letter and spirit of that rule. I'll restore the caption. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:41, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Perhaps you should hold your horses. I don't know if you noticed, but I've been around for quite awhile so I am aware of the rules. Secondly, I blanked the caption to give you or somebody else the chance of coming up with a new caption. Thirdly, dude, I uploaded that screenshot. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:09, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Regarding your second point, if someone replaces the caption with something that is generally agreed to be funnier, I won't have a problem with it. Replacing it with ''nothing'' is not appropriate.
::::Your third point is your personal guideline, but not wiki policy. I don't think it would be workable as a general policy.
::::As to your first point, I'll defer to admins, but otherwise I don't grant that seniority means one has the only valid sense of humor.
::::I think that the contributions I have made thus far to this wiki entitle me to put reasonably-clever captions on entirely-uncaptioned pics and to be secure that they won't be arbitrarily blanked without discussion. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:24, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::The caption rule on this wiki states that the uploader of an image gets to caption it, blah blah humour as a reward for doing the work blah. From what I can tell, unless the caption violates a rule itself (such as being vulgar) or there is some consensus or agreement reached with the uploader, the caption stays. I am generally not good at captions myself, so I normally leave them blank for others to fill in, but is it not unfair that I have to simply 'deal' with whatever caption is applied to an image I uploaded if I do not like said caption? Surely as the person who either tracked down an image or sat through episodes to find the exact frame to capture, I should have some sort of say in the matter. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:11, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::''The caption rule on this wiki states that the uploader of an image gets to caption''
::::::Clearly, I must have missed this rule. Where is it stated?
::::::''[isn't it] unfair that I have to simply 'deal' with whatever caption is applied [...]?''
::::::Well, that gets into tricky territory. The idea that people "own" parts of a wiki, and have veto power over those parts, is fraught with peril. I have no ''major'' problem with someone uploading an image, adding a caption at the time, and having a reasonable expectation that their caption be allowed to stand, due to "ownership rights". In this case, however, my caption had already been there for weeks before you removed it. There should be some sort of statute of limitations, I think. [[User:JW|JW]] 01:13, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::::[[Transformers Wiki:Caption|I believe this is the extent of our captioning policy.]] Though it mostly applies to random IP persons and newbies who either want to change things or remove all traces of humour.
:::::::I didn't mean I have some kind of legal right to do so, I might in the sense of fairness, if people get to caption their images in the first place when they upload it based upon what they think is funny, I should be able to change or ask for a 'better' caption if I don't in the first place. But anyway, I'll just grow up and learn to deal with it. Now let's all forget our troubles with a '''''big bowl of strawberry ice cream'''''! --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:24, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Thank you for the link to the captioning policy. Alas, I think it damns us both equally.
::::::::On the other hand, let it never be said that I can't be distracted by ice cream. [[User:JW|JW]] 03:28, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

:How was it not funny? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 18:20, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::I didn't think it fit well enough with the arrogance of the article, at a glance it seemed to be more specific to the heroic image of Sky Lynx blasting off than his personality. But not to worry, I won't question anybody's captions of images I upload. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:29, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

==BW Rampage Toypic==
Um... Transformer: Generations doesn't cover Beast Wars at all, so that Rampage picture can't be from it. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 22:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Goddammit. Wait, actually it looks like a Hasbro stock photo. Even BETTER. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

==Comic arrangement==
Well, I mostly did it because I thought the character list looked ugly at the top of articles. If you don't care for it, feel free to move it back to the normal placement. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:I'm mostly concerned about the fact we seem to agree on a format or standard..... then somebody changes their mind, so the wiki ends up looking really disorganised. One only needs to look at the episode articles and you'll see what I mean. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 00:26, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
::Perhaps style guide pages for both would would help consistency. I'll... go and make them, suppose. So discussion can be centralized. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:::We've already decided on the cartoon article style, and the help page lists [[More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1]] as the example. However, the comic example is one of the older Marvel G1 styles, which is perfectly servicable, but just lacks the character box. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

==Image formats==
[[User talk:Sntint|Actually]], what should it read? My knowledge of image format differences is limited; the impression I'm getting from Wikipedia is that a high-quality JPEG might still display legible text and have a smaller filesize than a PNG. Is this mistaken? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 16:54, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:Generally speaking, we try to keep image files under 150KB, which I believe is the recommended maximum size the software on this wiki suggests, mostly in the interests of of saving server space and to reduce download times. At the lower end, PNG files tend to be several times larger in filesize than comparable jpegs of reasonable quality, yet aren't considerably more visually impressive. So, say, a screen shot at 640x480 jpeg may average 70-80KB, a PNG might be 200KB or more.
:However, we do allow the use of either high quality jpegs or PNGs when the file requires it, like the chart I mentioned. But for the sheer majority of images on the wiki, average quality jpegs suit us fine. I probably upload more pics than anybody else on the wiki, so I vaugley know what I'm talking about. ;) --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:01, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
::Erm. I don't mean to imply you ''don't'' know what you're talking about; if I thought you didn't I wouldn't be asking you. :)
::But I don't see how that answers my question. Could a JPG's quality be increased such that a chart would be sufficiently legible, and also still have a smaller filesize than a PNG? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 17:06, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I was joking. [[Sparkplug Witwicky|I'm a mechanic. I know what I'm doing!]]
:::In answer to your question, it's possible. One problem with jpegs is they tend degrade in quality with each subsequent save you make to the single file. As I understand it, PNG files don't degrade to such an extent. Walky might know more about pngs than I do. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:13, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

==Pegasus-class carrier==
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus-class_mobile_suit_carrier White Base], FFN. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:06, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:Similar vague shape, but not really important enough to mention, either way. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:03, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

==What's up with G1?==
What's up with all the changes to the G1 pages?--[[User:Suzyprime|Suzyprime]] 04:56, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:Somebody put the names in the wrong order in the Featured characters character box, and I got rid of the wiki-linked names in the summaries - if they're going to appear in the character box later (once somebody gets around to it), it's redundant to have them in the summary. Other minor edits such as external links to dossier pages for the episodes at the Cybertron Chronicle. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:00, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks. So the rule of thumb is, character links in the character box not in the summary, and put characters in order of appearance in the box. Correct?--[[User:Suzyprime|Suzyprime]] 05:08, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
I think character names should absolutely still be wiki-linked in the summary, even if they're going to be linked again later in the character box. It's standard practice to link the first occurrence of anything linkable, so that when someone is reading an article and comes across an unfamiliar item, they can click right on over and learn about it right then and there. Even if it is redundant with later links down in the character box, we really should stick to the "first occurrence gets linked" policy anyway. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 05:29, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'm down with that. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:09, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::We've been doing it that way with recent episode/comic articles, so we don't clutter the summary with links upon links of character names that are linked a screen below. We still link things that aren't covered in the character box. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:00, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Do we have a decision on which way it's going to be? Character box or first mention?--[[User:Suzyprime|Suzyprime]] 15:41, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Whichever way you like, evidently. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:43, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:It doesn't look like you're happy with that.--[[User:Suzyprime|Suzyprime]] 15:46, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::I don't mind either way. I just won't be doing it myself should I write episode articles. Saves me time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:47, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::What about all of yesterday's changes? Should they be reverted then?--[[User:Suzyprime|Suzyprime]] 15:50, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Not unless you want to wipe out any other changes I did that are unrelated to this discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:54, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:::My point is that you wiped out a lot of stuff on 10 different episode pages before asking anyone if it was kosher. I'm not angry, I just think it just sucks that someone else's work is gone now. IMHO, you should revert those edits.--[[User:Suzyprime|Suzyprime]] 16:28, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Oh FFS, fine. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 1 6:34, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I think both the first appearance of a name outside of the box'''and''' the listing in the box should be linked. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:13, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

==Continuities==
Beast Machines/Beast Wars is not in the cartoon continuity, especially not the expanded 3H version of it, which includes G2 (Vok = Swarm), Primus, what have you. Beast Machines really upped the cartoon refs, but I don't think we can definitely put it in that slot, without overstepping our bounds. --[[User:68.252.59.108|68.252.59.108]] 03:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Trailbreaker (G1)

2008-04-02T03:36:18Z

68.252.59.108: Beast Machines does not take place in the cartoon continuity. Universe certainly doesn't, since it includes G2 in its backstory.

{{disambig2|the Generation 1 Autobot|the live-action movie-verse Autobot|Trailbreaker (Movie)}}

:''Trailbreaker is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Trailbreakerg1.jpg|thumb|right|240px|I may not be fast... but I'm effective and provide soothing relief.]]

It's hard not to like '''Trailbreaker'''. He's a good-humored cheerleader, always ready with a joke or comment to lighten the mood when things get dark. Sadly, Trailbreaker's joking is often a cover for his low self-esteem. His form is the most fuel-consumptive of the ''Ark'' crew, and his vehicle mode is very slow. As such, he feels like a useless drain on their limited resources. The Autobots know better, of course. Trailbreaker's good humor, bravery, and impenetrable [[force field]] are all of great use, but convincing him of that is hard, especially when he begins to mope about his handicaps.

:''Preliminary name:'' '''Guzzle'''<br>
:''French-Canadian name'': '''Glouton'''<br>
:''Hungarian name'': '''Ösvényvágó'''<br>
:''Italian name'': '''Tuono'''

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
{{note|Events in italics occurred only in the Marvel UK books.}}

Trailbreaker was part of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s original crew, crashing to Earth four million years ago aboard the ''[[Ark]]''.

''Trailbreaker joined a detachment of Autobots investigating robot sightings in Merry Ol' England. After making contact with a young boy named Sammy, the Autobots were caught by surprise when the [[Seeker]]s fire-bombed them from the sky. Trailbeaker was blasted before he could activate his force field. Like a freakin' drama queen, he went offline whimpering, "It's no good. Everything's gone...just plain ruined..." {{Storylink|Man of Iron!}}''

Like many Autobots, Trailbreaker was too low on fuel to join Optimus and the others in what would've been their climactic battle with [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s forces, and was taken prisoner without a fight when [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] assumed command of the Decepticons and the ''Ark''. He was revived after [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] and the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s reclaimed the ''Ark'', however. When the Autobots went to recover Optimus Prime's head and restore their leader to functionality, Trailbreaker was one of many Autobots caught off-guard by the false Prime created by Shockwave and was shot down before he could raise his force field. {{Storylink|Prime Time!}}

''On another occasion, the Dinobot [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] was under the control of a human scientist and attacking the Autobots. Trailbreaker jumped in his path and tried to wrestle the pteranodon to the ground. Instead, he was lifted up and slammed into the cliffside...'cause he never turned on that force field. {{Storylink|The Icarus Theory!}} During the Dinobot Hunt, Trailbreaker joined [[Brawn]] and [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] in hunting [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]] among the sands of the Black Rock Desert. They managed to collect him virtually without a fight once Snarl wandered into a secret military base and unleashed a molecular disintegrator bomb that ended his rampage. {{Storylink|Dinobot Hunt}}''

''When [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] and his future Decepticons arrived in the present, the Autobot chain of command was crippled as Optimus Prime, [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], and Ratchet vanished and [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] was taken prisoner. [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] attempted to rise to command, accepting support from [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] and [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]], but the Autobots were simply outclassed. Trailbreaker was part of a group of more than a half-dozen Autobots who collectively failed to bring down even one of Galvatron's lieutenants. In desperation, the Autobots turned to Megatron himself (who had quickly been disposed of by Galvatron when he first arrived) as a temporary ally and battlefield advisor. Under the Decepticon's direction, the Autobots staged a trap for the lone future Decepticon [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] in order to weaken Galvatron's power base. Unfortunately, Scourge's enhanced sensors detected the trap almost immediately, and his acid ray nailed Trailbreaker THROUGH a wall before the battle even began. (Too early to have activated that force field, huh?) Scourge was ultimately brought down, but Trailbreaker was left inactive for days until Ratchet was restored to the present and able to repair him. {{Storylink|Target 2006}}''

''Well, he was up and about soon enough, and accompanied Prowl and Jetfire on a mission to stop the Decepticons from accessing a NASA space transmission facility, only to get knocked around helplessly by [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], and beaten to the ground long enough for the Decepticons to escape...all because he didn't turn on that slaggin' force field to protect himself. Remember, Trailbreaker? The force field? You're not built for speed or energy efficiency; you were built for power, specifically that one power that makes you ''special'' and ''unique''. Or is it "just plain ruined" these days? {{Storylink|The Gift}}''

Trailbreaker's role in the war soon became greatly reduced, and he was more than likely destroyed by Starscream during the [[Underbase Saga]]. {{Storylink|Dark Star!}}

====Marvel UK future timelines====

''In 2008, Trailbreaker was one of the Autobots taken down and strung up by the [[Quintesson]]s when they invaded [[Autobot City]]. Some of the Autobots seen deactivated like this showed up later alive, and [[Time Wars]] probably wiped out the reason for the Quintesson attack in the first place, so Trailbreaker probably survived one way or another. {{storylink|Space Pirates!}}''

===Animated continuity===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]] (US), [[Ken Shiroyama]] (Japan)

[[Image:Trailbreakerdance.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Do a little dance...make a little love...get down tonight...I said get down tonight!]]

Trailbreaker was part of the bridge crew of the ''Ark'' spaceship when it blasted off from Cybertron to search for new sources of energy four million years in the past. When he was awakened in 1984, [[Teletraan I]] reformatted him so that his alt-mode was a terrestrial Toyota 4WD camper truck. Trailbreaker accompanied his fellow Autobots on their first mission to stop the Decepticons on Earth, a mission that took him to an off-shore oil rig. The Decepticons plundered the rig for energon and destroyed it, leaving it a flaming wreck that endangered its human crew. Trailbreaker used his force field to contain the fire, while [[Wheeljack]] used his built-in fire-suppression systems to douse the flames. {{Storylink|More Than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}

Later, Trailbreaker served as a spy despite his stated function as defensive strategist. ([[Mirage]] was apparently busy that day.) He, along with the humans [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] and [[Spike Witwicky|Spike]], camped out near the Decepticons' headquarters and eavesdropped on their plans to raid the ruby mines of Burma. Their surveillance did not go totally unnoticed, however, as a set of [[Seeker]]s spotted the Autobot making his getaway. Trailbreaker summoned the brothers [[Sunstreaker]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] to fend off his pursuer and got the information safely back to Prime. {{Storylink|More Than Meets the Eye, Part 2}}

When the Autobots began studying a meteorite that had fallen to Earth, Wheeljack discovered the sample fragment was highly unstable and summoned Optimus and Trailbreaker to his laboratory. On command, Trailbreaker unleashed his force field around the meteorite to contain the explosive blast. {{Storylink|War of the Dinobots}}

One time, when Megatron temporarily reprogrammed [[Gears]] to be a happy-go-lucky kind of Autobot, Trailbreaker was the one who voiced what everyone was thinking and said maybe they should just leave him that way. {{Storylink|Changing Gears}}

When the Dinobots attempted to demonstrate their newfound "finesse" to the other Autobots, [[Slag (G1)|Slag]] accidentally set fire to the ''Ark'', threatening [[Teletraan I]]. Thinking quickly, Trailbreaker projected his force field over the Autobot supercomputer, allowing [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] time to extinguish the blaze. {{Storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 1}}

On another occasion, the Autobots were forced to abandon Earth by Megatron aboard a spacecraft set on a course into the sun. After the Autobots discovered they couldn't alter their course, their ship exploded. Trailbreaker cast a massive force field large enough to contain the entire Autobot force safely; from within the field, [[Cosmos]] towed the group back to Earth. {{Storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2}}

After that, a Decepticon coup by [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] resulted in a city being flooded. Trailbreaker used his force field to protect himself and a small group of Autobots from a large tidal wave. {{Storylink|Triple Takeover}}

{{note|In storyboards for the movie, Trailbreaker's dead body is seen at the end of the Autobot City battle. However, this didn't make it into the final film, leaving his status after the battle up in the air.}}

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
Trailbreaker was present under the command of [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] at the battle of [[Altihex]] when the Decepticons destroyed a building full of neutral Cybertonians. Unable to save the city, the Autobots helped evacuate civilians before retreating.

When Decepticon Military Operations Commander [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] led a force of Decepticons against the Autobot capitol of [[Iacon]], Trailbreaker was among the Autobots who defended the capital.

When Decepticon leader [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and Autobot leader [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] disappeared in an accident with a [[space bridge]], the Autobot and Decepticon forces splintered into smaller factions. Trailbreaker stayed with the Autobots under the leadership of [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]. He was part of the group of reinforcements that helped battle the giant [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]].

Trailbreaker was among the Autobots who followed Optimus Prime on his mission on board the [[Ark]]. They were attacked by Megatron's ship, the [[Nemesis]]. After being boarded, the ''Ark'' crash-landed on [[Earth]], where all on board were preserved in emergency stasis. In 1984, a volcanic eruption awakened the ''Ark''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s computer, Teletraan I, and it repaired all on board.

Eventually, the combined forces of the Autobots on Earth and their human allies were able to capture the Decepticons. In 1999, a ship called the ''[[Ark II]]'' was built to take the Cybertonians back to Cybertron, along with some human companions, but the ship exploded shortly after takeoff. The human allies were killed, but the Cybertonians were lost in the ocean, again in stasis lock. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 1}} Three years later, Spike Witwicky assisted the US "Defense Ministry" in reactivating Optimus Prime by placing a piece of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] into his chest. Optimus traveled to the remote Arctic shoreline where he'd been found after the crash and used the Matrix to revive Jazz, Mirage, Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, Superion, Trailbreaker and Wheeljack from where they lay under the waves. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 2}}

Shortly afterwards, the Autobots assisted the US military in rescuing the survivors of the Smitco Oil Refinery attack. When Optimus Prime learned the attackers were Autobots and Decepticons under the control of terrorist arms dealer [[Adam Rook]], he asked his Autobots to accompany him to fight for '''Great JUSTICE.''' Trailbreaker was among the Autobots who agreed to come along, stating that Prime only needed to point him in the right direction. Trailbreaker participated in the battle at Rook's destroyed base when [[Robert Hallo|General Hallo]] double-crossed them and attempted to destroy all the Transformers with a low-yield nuclear weapon. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 3}}

[[Image:DW Trailbreaker Devastatorstomp.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Devastator crush puny Autobot...and make [[scale]] joke while crushing. Har har har!]]

After the Autobots extricated themselves from the nuke-absorbing hardened virus shell, Trailbreaker helped rescue the captive Autobots Megatron was using to fuel his technovirus. After Ironhide informed the other Autobots of Megatron's imminent attack on [[San Francisco]], they flew there and engaged the Decepticons. Trailbreaker smashed Grimlock in the face with a steel girder and informed the former Dinobot commander that he'd made the wrong choice in leaving the Autobots and was now going to pay. Unfortunately, [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] was taken down by the [[Seekers]] and [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], prompting Trailbreaker to join Optimus Prime, Sideswipe and Megatron in a moment of [[dull surprise]], gaping at Devastator as if they had never seen him before. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 4}}

As Jazz and the Autobots in Canada were preparing to deal with the technovirus, Trailbreaker frantically radioed them for backup, reporting that Superion was down. As he was distracted, Devastator attempted to stomp on the Autobot. Trailbreaker caught the foot in time, but was crushed into the pavement. He was later retrieved and placed into restraint by the Decepticons as Megatron attempted to convince Optimus Prime to join his cause to wipe out the humans and rule the universe. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 5}} Once Prime managed to free the Autobots with assistance from human firefighters, Trailbreaker resumed his assault on Grimlock by sending him flying with a punch. After Superion sacrificed himself to save San Francisco from General Hallo's unauthorized nuclear strike, Trailbreaker called Optimus over when he and Sideswipe discovered the abandoned Grimlock under rubble. {{Storylink|Prime Directive, Part 6}}

Months later, the united Cybertronian army arrived on Earth, demanding the surrender of all combatant Autobots and Decepticons. Trailbreaker suffered serious injuries battling [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] and the Seekers and had to be placed in a [[CR chamber]] for repairs on the flight back to Cybertron. He fought alongside the ''Ark''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s crew and the various insurgency groups on Cybertron to reclaim [[Iacon]] for the Autobots and force Shockwave out of power. {{Storylink|War and Peace}} Afterwards, he joined Prowl and the rest of the ''Ark''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s old crew in returning to Earth to work on the construction of a new Autobot City.

===Binaltech===
Trailbreaker was one of many Autobots who suffered from an outbreak of the [[Cosmic Rust]] virus after the Decepticons unleashed it on Earth. He was supposed to receive a new body thanks to the [[Central City]] Institute of Technology, but the Decepticons managed to infiltrate the Binaltech Project. Through the use of [[hypno-chip]]-controlled spies and pawns, Trailbreaker's new body was hijacked and used to upgrade the [[Combaticon]] known as [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] instead.

===Devil's Due G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers continuity===
Trailbreaker was among the Transformers discovered on Earth by [[Cobra]], and reworked into a piloted death mechanism. The Transformers were eventually freed, and the Autobots fought both their Decepticon enemies and their Cobra oppressors. During the battle, Storm Shadow ripped Trailbreaker's head off, and, uhhh, well, anyway, that was it for Trailbreaker. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 5}}

===IDW Comics continuity===
[[Image:MegsOrigin4_Trailbreaker.jpg|thumb|left|150px|I STILL SUPPORT THE RAILING SYSTEMMMMmmmmm!]]

Trailbreaker (along with nearly every other Autobot, apparently) served in the Autobot Security Forces under the command of [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]. He participated in the battle of [[Kaon]] where the criminal known as [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] began a rampage with his army of convicts. Trailbreaker grabbed [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] as the criminal was flying away, only to be kicked off for his trouble, falling to his apparent demise... {{Storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4}}

[[Image:SpotlightKup_Trailbreaker.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Mommy told me never to open the door to strangers.]]

Except he survived. Many years later, Trailbreaker was a specialist called in by [[Springer]] to extract a deranged [[Kup]] safely from the planet where he had crash-landed. The planet possessed a radiation which was dangerous to Transformers without special protective covering, causing Kup, in his delusions, to believe his rescuers were monsters trying to attack him. Trailbreaker's force fields allowed him to walk on the planet without any protective gear, and he successfully convinced the old bot that he was trying to help him. This also marks the first time he'd accomplished anything of note since 1985. {{Storylink|Spotlight: Kup}}

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===''Universe''===
[[Image:rattrap_legs.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Gah! Someone call an exterminator!]]

Trailbreaker and fellow Autobots [[Sideswipe]], [[Sunstreaker]], [[Roulette]] and [[Shadow Striker]] arrived on the newly technorganic Cybertron roughly one year after the events of ''[[Beast Machines]]''. They were welcomed by the surviving members of [[Optimus Primal]]'s band of [[Maximals]], including [[Rattrap]], who offered to share a vintage keg of [[Maccadam's Old Oil House|Maccadam's Old Oil]] with the Autobot veteran. Unfortunately, Trailbreaker did not have an opportunity to take Rattrap up on his offer, because immediately afterwards, he and his associates were abducted by [[Unicron]] and teleported to the [[Cauldron]]. There, they were rebuilt against their will into new bodies... except Trailbreaker, because why mess with success? {{storylink|Abduction}}

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==Toys==
===Generation 1===
* '''Trailbreaker''' (1984)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''25'''
[[Image:G1Trailbreaker_toy.jpg|left|thumb|150px|If your vehicle mode looks like this, you might be a redneck!]]

: Trailbreaker transforms in a Toyota 4WD Hi-Lux camper truck. In robot mode, both of his lower arms are projectile launchers, able to load and fire either his fists or his projectiles, which consist of two silver rockets and two silver "twin blasters". The [[Hasbro]] version of the toy severely weakened the springs [[for safety reasons]].

: This mold was later [[retool]]ed to make [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]].

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===Other attempts===
There are quite a few Transformers toys that were at one point in their development supposed to be a new form for (or tribute to) Trailbreaker, but so far all of these have become other characters with other names, most likely due to [[Hasbro]]'s inability to secure the [[trademark]].

Trailbreaker's appearance in the [[3H Productions|3H]] Universe comics stems from early plans to release a Trailbreaker redeco of the [[Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]] [[X-Brawn]] mold as a convention exclusive in 2003. Reportedly, Hasbro themselves also had the same idea for the mass retail Universe Deluxe assortment, but due to the aforementioned reasons, the toy was ultimately given a different deco and released as [[Ratchet (Universe)|Autobot Ratchet]] instead.

Later, a [[redeco]] of the [[Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]] [[Spychanger]] [[Ironhide (RID)|Ironhide]] was released as a Wal*Mart exclusive under the [[Universe]] banner, a black pickup truck with the distinctive red and yellow stripes from Trailbreaker's original toy. Ultimately, this toy would be released as [[Ironhide (Universe)|Ironhide]] instead.

The next attempt was in the [[Alternators]] line, the toy that would eventually become [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] and later [[Rollbar (G1)|Rollbar]]. A [[retool]] of the [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] Jeep Wrangler toy, its head is a cross between the original Trailbreaker toy's helmet and the cartoon model's face, surprisingly similar to [[Dan Khanna|Dan Khanna's]] rendition of the character in 3H's Universe comics. A black and white version of a proposed color guide for the unreleased Trailbreaker version of the mold was depicted in the Japanese ''[[Transformers: Binaltech & TF Collection Complete Guide]]'' book.

Finally, the [[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] Autobot [[Overhaul (UT)|Overhaul]] was originally going to be called "Trailbreaker", and the head mold was to have more elements from the Generation 1 character's design. These plans were again scrapped, but the character's upgraded form, '''Leobreaker''', retains the "breaker" portion of the name, since "Leohaul" sounds really silly.

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==Merchandise==
===3D Battle-Card Game===
*'''Trailbreaker''' (2007)

: A 26-point "common" character in the [[3D Battle-Card Game]]'s "Energon Wars" expansion, Trailbreaker "transforms" into a black pickup truck with a camper shell. He uses the same parts layout as [[Transformers (2007)|Movie]] [[Payload (Movie)|Payload]] and [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]].

==Trivia==
* Trailbreaker's mold was originally a ''[[Diaclone]]'' "4WD Hi-Lux", available in three different colors; black, blue or yellow. The blue version was one of three toys made available in the ''very'' short-lived US ''Diakron'' line that briefly pre-dated ''Transformers''.

* Trailbreaker laid some serious smack down on Grimlock in the Prime Directive miniseries. He was showing laying the Dinobot commander out with a steel girder, went on to survive being stood on by Devastator, and then resumed kicking Grimlocks skid plate, knocking him off his feet with a single punch, and then leaving him buried in rubble only to be left behind by Megatron. So much for being a liability.
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==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Trailbreaker/trailbreaker.htm Trailbreaker at TFU.info]

*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Trailbreaker Trailbreaker's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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