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		<title>Talk:Unknown Constructicon shovel</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;68.253.210.192: /* Alt-Mode */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;I&#039;m pretty sure this is a second [[Scrapper (ROTF)|Scrapper]].&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt;  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:09, 3 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:But Scrapper forms a whole arm, and this guy is just a hand. Aside from Ze Little One (who turns into a different vehicle than his robot mode double) none of the other Constructiclones have been differently sized compared to each-other.[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 23:22, 3 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: It looks to me like Scrappers form both hands and neither arm.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:27, 3 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Would it have killed [[DreamWorks]], [[Michael Bay|Mr. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;AWESOME&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;]] and the special effects boys at [[Industrial Light &amp;amp; Magic]] to have some blasted &#039;&#039;consistency&#039;&#039; between which [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]] was which, and which ones formed [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]]. This. is. MADNESS. --[[User:G1MarvelBlaster|G1MarvelBlaster]] 21:08, 4 November 2009 (EST) (Who likes making wiki-links way too much)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think the film makes it pretty clear that there&#039;s well over a dozen Constructicons who all share 6 basic body forms (I say 6 because Overload is never seen elsewhere), and far more than 7 of them form Devastator. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:11, 4 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
He&#039;s not another Scrapper.  Scrapper has giant wheels.  This unnamed dude has treads.  He&#039;s not Rampage either.  Different shovel.   --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 5 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Um, doesn&#039;t this guy transform into a Bulldozer? IIRC, there are still some differences between a bulldozer and a shovel/loader. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 02:47, 6 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, a &amp;quot;shovel&amp;quot; would be if it had a scoop on a long articulated arm.  This guy is a bulldozer. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:10, 23 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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This dude isn&#039;t a bulldozer, it is a track loader that is based on a heavily modified Caterpillar bulldozer of which the model is either a D7, or D8 and I guess the movie producers modified it to such an extent (older track loader arms, large wheel loader buckets) that it resembles a large track loader of unknown make (Probably Caterpillar) as shown when transforming with Hightower (Kobelco Crawler Crane).&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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