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Talk:Tracks (G1)

2006-12-06T06:35:09Z

68.66.41.182:

Direct to eBay exclusive?

That's a joke, based on the rarity of Alt. Tracks. [[User:202.7.183.131|202.7.183.131]] 04:34, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

What about a Gay Transformers Catagory? There's probably enough to warrent one, Shockfleet, BWII Starscream, BB etc. etc. [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 19:47, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

But Tracks isn't gay...I mean, TFs don't have sex anyway. Maybe my bio notes of his massive powers and handsome styling were unclear...*confused* [[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 20:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:Categorically, NO! There is no official basis for "gay" Transformers, and the topic is beyond the appropriate purpose of this Wiki.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC) (P.S. The reference to Raul doesn't belong in the main bio, either. It belongs in the "Animated Continuity" section.)
::Point conceded. I blame a.t.t. for warping my mind... --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 21:24, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Frankly I think all the of innuendo in that bio should be removed. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 22:12, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Aw. I'm a *huge* fan of it. And it's technically not breaking any rules... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:34, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::The problem I have is that "gay Tracks" is a fandom construct. I am certainly guilty of using the concept to make jokes, but the character doesn't actually ever demonstrate romantic interest in other male characters. A page full innuendo to that effect stikes me as misleading. But, that's just my opinion. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 22:40, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::See, the entry is no more gay than Tracks is. He's never said to be, but he sure acts like it. In that way, this write-up is completely accurate. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:52, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I'm not too concerned about what's there. If it's not clearly a fan-construct, I'll not raise a huge fuss. But it is indeed full of innuendo that may not be appropriate. For example:

:::::::"well-endowed with a sleek, muscular, and tastefully decorated..."
:::::::"He is able to launch two flaming incendiary missiles from long and durable launcher tubes."
:::::::"embracing his enemies in darkness, unaware of the Autobot until he strikes from behind, and leaves them moaning on the cold ground!"
:::::::"Tracks can also fly like a butterfly by deploying his secret, hidden wings from their protective closet."

:::::::You get the idea. Technically accurate, but purposedly written in such a way as to play up the "gayness" of it all. I don't think it's cool.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 00:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::I am confused by this statement: "He's never said to be, but he sure acts like it. In that way, this write-up is completely accurate." I don't understand how it's accurate to say that Tracks acts like he's gay. Here, as before, I am defining gay as demonstrating a romantic interest in characters that share his gender. Tracks doesn't do that. Hell, I think there's a better case to be made that Red Alert and Sandstorm are gay than Tracks is, depending on how one interprets their feelings for Inferno and Octane, respectively. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:16, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::You're quite right, of course;in fact, since Tracksy can't get along with his buddies, he has even less opportunity to show any kind of affection for them than Optimus Prime, and nobody every accused Prime of towing dual trailers. I also know very well that Tracks' voice actor (I'm not good with their names) was trying to portray him as an Ivy League snob. The trouble is that this conspires with his Bud-given personality to rather comic effect, and lends him a certain poncy air...and that was what I was trying to portray in the bio. I think.--[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 12:31, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::I don't have a problem with allusions to Tracks' fan-constructed homosexuality, but I think that the number of references in the bio has reached and surpassed the saturation point. Also, the fact that this Transformers Wiki is so easily found in a google search recommends that any gay jokes be kept to a tasteful minimum. We have to remember that Transformers is a toy line aimed primarily at children, and as such, the potential audience must be considered. As it stands, there are 14 references and double entendres in the 4 paragraphs that make up the largest part of the bio. This is a serious issue. (Kizudarake on the Allspark)
::::::::I'm not sure how any kid who doesn't or shouldn't know what this stuff means would even realize it's innuendo in the first place. Innuendo only works if you're already in on the joke. What five-year-old who doesn't understand that "shaft" is a euphemism for "penis" is going to stumble across this page and realize, "Oh, hey, this article is about gay sex!" This is not a serious issue. Certainly not on a wiki with [[Kiss Players]] of all things included. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::But the "Mommy, what's this word mean?" effect can cause some serious problems, and complaints.(Kizudarake from The Allspark)
==Red Euro version==
The latest edit [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Tracks&curid=1638&diff=30142&oldid=30141] claims that Tracks was released a second time (in blue) in Europe "due to poor sales". Is there any actual evidence for that? It sounds like fan supposition. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:09, 22 September 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Tracks (G1)

2006-12-06T06:32:10Z

68.66.41.182: Reduced the number of gay jokes and reworded some parts to form more coherent sentences.

:''Tracks is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:tracksg1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hi, I'm fabulous.]]

'''Tracks''' is a little bit of a narcissist, according to his Autobot buddies, and it's hard for him to stay lighthearted and gay under such criticism. He attributes it to jealousy: few Autobots are so well-equipped with a sleek, muscular, and tastefully decorated sports car mode as his.

The truth is, Tracks' armament is considerable. He is able to launch two incendiary missiles from long and durable launchers. These projectiles are heat-seeking, searching out the warmth of unsuspecting Decepticon forms to strike, preferably from the rear. He is further armed with a black-beam gun, which fires a beam of light-negating radiation, surrounding his enemies in darkness, unaware of the Autobot until he pounces, and leaves them feeling violated.

Tracks can also fly by deploying his hidden wings from their protective closet.

He should be a dangerous opponent, but his concern with preserving his stylish appearance and poor ability to work with fellow Autobots hampers him. Often he simply patrols the metro area alone at night, looking for battles with Decepticons who are worthy of his attention.

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===

===Animated continuity===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Michael McConnohie]] (USA), [[Shô Hayami]] (Japan)
[[Image:trackscruc2.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Radio killed the video star.]]

In "[[The Secret of Omega Supreme]]", when [[San Francisco]] was threatened by an [[Asteroid bird alien|alien bird creature]], Tracks risked his life in battle to defend the city.

===Dreamwave comics continuity===

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
*'''Tracks''' (Autobot, 1985)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''44'''

: The European version of Tracks by Milton Bradley was initially available in red, based on the original Diaclone color scheme. Due to poor sales, Hasbro decided to re-release Tracks in Europe, this time in his blue US colors. Because of this, the red MB version ended up being rather rare.

: This mold was used to make [[Road Rage]], based on the red European version.

*'''Tracks with Basher''' (Action Master, 1991)
: This release was a European exclusive.

===Alternators===
*'''Autobot Tracks'''
: The Binaltech release of this toy was released in both yellow and blue.

===Merchandise===

==Trivia==
*It is frequently joked amongst Transformers fans that Tracks is a homosexual, although the character has not actually demonstrated any romantic interest in other male characters.

* Voice actor [[Michael McConnohie]] claims Tracks is not gay. He chose the voice of Thurston Howell (played by Jim Backus) from ''Gilligan's Island'' as the basis for the snooty voice and mannerisms. McConnohie refers to Tracks' manner of dialect as a "Harvard Lockjaw".

* In parts of Europe, Tracks was released in the Diaclone toy's red deco. It is possible Hasbro has originally planned for tracks to be released in Diaclone colors, as Tracks is red complete with the Diaclone hood stickers ("CS" instead of the Autobot sigil) on the 1985 back-of-the-box mural.

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Autobot/Tracks/tracks.htm Tracks at TFU.info]
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Tracks Tracks' Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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[[Category: Action Masters]]
[[Category: Alternators]]
[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Tracks (G1)

2006-12-06T06:08:59Z

68.66.41.182:

Direct to eBay exclusive?

That's a joke, based on the rarity of Alt. Tracks. [[User:202.7.183.131|202.7.183.131]] 04:34, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

What about a Gay Transformers Catagory? There's probably enough to warrent one, Shockfleet, BWII Starscream, BB etc. etc. [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 19:47, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

But Tracks isn't gay...I mean, TFs don't have sex anyway. Maybe my bio notes of his massive powers and handsome styling were unclear...*confused* [[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 20:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:Categorically, NO! There is no official basis for "gay" Transformers, and the topic is beyond the appropriate purpose of this Wiki.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC) (P.S. The reference to Raul doesn't belong in the main bio, either. It belongs in the "Animated Continuity" section.)
::Point conceded. I blame a.t.t. for warping my mind... --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 21:24, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Frankly I think all the of innuendo in that bio should be removed. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 22:12, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Aw. I'm a *huge* fan of it. And it's technically not breaking any rules... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:34, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::The problem I have is that "gay Tracks" is a fandom construct. I am certainly guilty of using the concept to make jokes, but the character doesn't actually ever demonstrate romantic interest in other male characters. A page full innuendo to that effect stikes me as misleading. But, that's just my opinion. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 22:40, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::See, the entry is no more gay than Tracks is. He's never said to be, but he sure acts like it. In that way, this write-up is completely accurate. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:52, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I'm not too concerned about what's there. If it's not clearly a fan-construct, I'll not raise a huge fuss. But it is indeed full of innuendo that may not be appropriate. For example:

:::::::"well-endowed with a sleek, muscular, and tastefully decorated..."
:::::::"He is able to launch two flaming incendiary missiles from long and durable launcher tubes."
:::::::"embracing his enemies in darkness, unaware of the Autobot until he strikes from behind, and leaves them moaning on the cold ground!"
:::::::"Tracks can also fly like a butterfly by deploying his secret, hidden wings from their protective closet."

:::::::You get the idea. Technically accurate, but purposedly written in such a way as to play up the "gayness" of it all. I don't think it's cool.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 00:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::I am confused by this statement: "He's never said to be, but he sure acts like it. In that way, this write-up is completely accurate." I don't understand how it's accurate to say that Tracks acts like he's gay. Here, as before, I am defining gay as demonstrating a romantic interest in characters that share his gender. Tracks doesn't do that. Hell, I think there's a better case to be made that Red Alert and Sandstorm are gay than Tracks is, depending on how one interprets their feelings for Inferno and Octane, respectively. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:16, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::You're quite right, of course;in fact, since Tracksy can't get along with his buddies, he has even less opportunity to show any kind of affection for them than Optimus Prime, and nobody every accused Prime of towing dual trailers. I also know very well that Tracks' voice actor (I'm not good with their names) was trying to portray him as an Ivy League snob. The trouble is that this conspires with his Bud-given personality to rather comic effect, and lends him a certain poncy air...and that was what I was trying to portray in the bio. I think.--[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 12:31, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::I don't have a propblem with allusions to Tracks' fan-constructed homosexuality, but I think that the number of references in the bio has reached and surpassed the saturation point. Also, the fact that this Transformers Wiki is so easily found in a google search recommends that any gay jokes be kept to a tasteful minimum. We have to remember that Transformers is a toy line aimed primarily at children, and as such, the potential audience must be considered. As it stands, there are 14 references and double entendres in the 4 paragraphs that make up the largest part of the bio. This is a serious issue. (Kizudarake on the Allspark)
==Red Euro version==
The latest edit [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Tracks&curid=1638&diff=30142&oldid=30141] claims that Tracks was released a second time (in blue) in Europe "due to poor sales". Is there any actual evidence for that? It sounds like fan supposition. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:09, 22 September 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Tracks (G1)

2006-12-06T06:08:15Z

68.66.41.182:

Direct to eBay exclusive?

That's a joke, based on the rarity of Alt. Tracks. [[User:202.7.183.131|202.7.183.131]] 04:34, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

What about a Gay Transformers Catagory? There's probably enough to warrent one, Shockfleet, BWII Starscream, BB etc. etc. [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 19:47, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

But Tracks isn't gay...I mean, TFs don't have sex anyway. Maybe my bio notes of his massive powers and handsome styling were unclear...*confused* [[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 20:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:Categorically, NO! There is no official basis for "gay" Transformers, and the topic is beyond the appropriate purpose of this Wiki.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC) (P.S. The reference to Raul doesn't belong in the main bio, either. It belongs in the "Animated Continuity" section.)
::Point conceded. I blame a.t.t. for warping my mind... --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 21:24, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Frankly I think all the of innuendo in that bio should be removed. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 22:12, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Aw. I'm a *huge* fan of it. And it's technically not breaking any rules... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:34, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::The problem I have is that "gay Tracks" is a fandom construct. I am certainly guilty of using the concept to make jokes, but the character doesn't actually ever demonstrate romantic interest in other male characters. A page full innuendo to that effect stikes me as misleading. But, that's just my opinion. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 22:40, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::See, the entry is no more gay than Tracks is. He's never said to be, but he sure acts like it. In that way, this write-up is completely accurate. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:52, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I'm not too concerned about what's there. If it's not clearly a fan-construct, I'll not raise a huge fuss. But it is indeed full of innuendo that may not be appropriate. For example:

:::::::"well-endowed with a sleek, muscular, and tastefully decorated..."
:::::::"He is able to launch two flaming incendiary missiles from long and durable launcher tubes."
:::::::"embracing his enemies in darkness, unaware of the Autobot until he strikes from behind, and leaves them moaning on the cold ground!"
:::::::"Tracks can also fly like a butterfly by deploying his secret, hidden wings from their protective closet."

:::::::You get the idea. Technically accurate, but purposedly written in such a way as to play up the "gayness" of it all. I don't think it's cool.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 00:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::I am confused by this statement: "He's never said to be, but he sure acts like it. In that way, this write-up is completely accurate." I don't understand how it's accurate to say that Tracks acts like he's gay. Here, as before, I am defining gay as demonstrating a romantic interest in characters that share his gender. Tracks doesn't do that. Hell, I think there's a better case to be made that Red Alert and Sandstorm are gay than Tracks is, depending on how one interprets their feelings for Inferno and Octane, respectively. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:16, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::You're quite right, of course;in fact, since Tracksy can't get along with his buddies, he has even less opportunity to show any kind of affection for them than Optimus Prime, and nobody every accused Prime of towing dual trailers. I also know very well that Tracks' voice actor (I'm not good with their names) was trying to portray him as an Ivy League snob. The trouble is that this conspires with his Bud-given personality to rather comic effect, and lends him a certain poncy air...and that was what I was trying to portray in the bio. I think.--[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 12:31, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::I don't have a propblem with allusions to Tracks' fan-constructed homosexuality, but I think that the number of references in the bio has reached and surpassed the saturation point. Also, the fact that this Transformers Wiki is so easily found in a google search recommends that any gay jokes be kept to a tasteful minimum. We have to remember that Transformers is a toy line aimed primarily at children, and as such, the potential audience must be considered. As it stands, there are 14 references and double entendres in the 4 paragraphs that make up the largest part of the bio. This is a serious issue.
==Red Euro version==
The latest edit [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Tracks&curid=1638&diff=30142&oldid=30141] claims that Tracks was released a second time (in blue) in Europe "due to poor sales". Is there any actual evidence for that? It sounds like fan supposition. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:09, 22 September 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Tracks (G1)

2006-12-06T05:52:03Z

68.66.41.182: The gay reference remains in the trivia heading.

:''Tracks is an [[Autobot]] in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.''

[[Image:tracksg1.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hi, I'm fabulous.]]

'''Tracks''' is a little bit of a narcissist, according to his Autobot buddies, and it's hard for him to stay lighthearted and happy under such criticism. He attributes it to jealousy: few Autobots are so well-endowed with a sleek, muscular, and tastefully decorated sports car mode as his.

The truth is, Tracks' armament is considerable. He is able to launch two incendiary missiles. These projectiles are heat-seeking, sensing the heat generated by unsuspecting Decepticon. He is further armed with a black-beam gun, which shoots forth a beam of light-negating radiation, enclosing his enemies in darkness, unaware of the Autobot until he strikes.

Tracks can also fly by deploying his concealed wings.

He should be a dangerous opponent, but his concern with preserving his stylish appearance and poor ability to work with fellow Autobots hampers him. Often he simply roams the city alone at night, looking for battles worthy of his attentions.

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===

===Animated continuity===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Michael McConnohie]] (USA), [[Shô Hayami]] (Japan)
[[Image:trackscruc2.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Radio killed the video star.]]

In "[[The Secret of Omega Supreme]]", when [[San Francisco]] was threatened by an [[Asteroid bird alien|alien bird creature]], Tracks risked his life in battle to defend the city.

===Dreamwave comics continuity===

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
*'''Tracks''' (Autobot, 1985)
: ''Japanese ID number:'' '''44'''

: The European version of Tracks by Milton Bradley was initially available in red, based on the original Diaclone color scheme. Due to poor sales, Hasbro decided to re-release Tracks in Europe, this time in his blue US colors. Because of this, the red MB version ended up being rather rare.

: This mold was used to make [[Road Rage]], based on the red European version.

*'''Tracks with Basher''' (Action Master, 1991)
: This release was a European exclusive.

===Alternators===
*'''Autobot Tracks'''
: The Binaltech release of this toy was released in both yellow and blue.

===Merchandise===

==Trivia==
*It is frequently joked amongst Transformers fans that Tracks is a homosexual, although the character has not actually demonstrated any romantic interest in other male characters.

* Voice actor [[Michael McConnohie]] claims Tracks is not gay. He chose the voice of Thurston Howell (played by Jim Backus) from ''Gilligan's Island'' as the basis for the snooty voice and mannerisms. McConnohie refers to Tracks' manner of dialect as a "Harvard Lockjaw".

* In parts of Europe, Tracks was released in the Diaclone toy's red deco. It is possible Hasbro has originally planned for tracks to be released in Diaclone colors, as Tracks is red complete with the Diaclone hood stickers ("CS" instead of the Autobot sigil) on the 1985 back-of-the-box mural.

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Autobot/Tracks/tracks.htm Tracks at TFU.info]
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Tracks Tracks' Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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[[Category: Action Masters]]
[[Category: Alternators]]
[[Category: Autobots]]
[[Category: Generation 1 characters]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Tracks (G1)

2006-12-05T07:28:41Z

68.66.41.182: Accuracy trumps funny.

Tracks (G1)

2006-12-04T02:41:34Z

68.66.41.182: