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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;68.9.151.104: /* About Animated... */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;So, do we call the clone a seperate character?  But for Rampage&#039;s death, he would have... remaiend so, but it becoems complicated with DB posessing his own clone, and the two never really... existed side-by-side enough to require seperate pages... And yet- by Wiki standards we seem to consider clones seperate dudes.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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TM2 Dinobot &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; a separate character. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s complicated at all, regardless of his totally unexplained personality change in the finale. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*lick*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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For Dinobot&#039;s TM2 entry, notarize that it&#039;s a Predacon clone created by Megatron, and decidedly not the original. In it&#039;s story background, simply say that &#039;Originally, an episode was planned which showed Rattrap uploading the original Dinobot&#039;s memories into the clone. This episode was not made, however, leaving a serious plot hole for the final season of Beast Wars, and the handling of the Dinobot TM2 character.&#039; --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*scratches head*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; Soo... if you make a new body for Dinobot and load his memories into it off a data backup, it&#039;s a new character.  But if you make a new body for &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039;... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Point being is that we never actually SEE Dinobot II&#039;s memory implant (aside from a very well done fan-comic), so he&#039;s still a completely seperate being (a literal twin brother), as far as the cartoon&#039;s involved. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:: No one ever &amp;quot;made a new body &#039;&#039;for&#039;&#039; Dinobot,&amp;quot; Megatron created a clone of the original that would be loyal to him, and gave it life with half of someone else&#039;s spark. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: What he said.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Oh!  Liek prowl and Chip!  Why didn&#039;t you jsut say so? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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How would the *other* Dinobot clone fit in? You know, the one that he ate?&lt;br /&gt;
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I would give &amp;quot;Double Dinobot&amp;quot; a new page.&lt;br /&gt;
P.S. What about a line or two about the Cyber-Raptors?[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 00:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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IIRC, Dinobot&#039;s nontransforming clone was officially named &#039;Clone One.&#039; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
===Character entries===&lt;br /&gt;
They should be written &amp;quot;in universe,&amp;quot; without breaking the fourth wall.  Meaning no &amp;quot;But Jhiaxus how do you live, I thought you died in G2 #11.&amp;quot;  Never reference the name of an episode out-right.  However, you can put the little footnote links to episode pages instead, as I have demonstrated.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ah.  I see, I&#039;ll make sure to do that in the future. [[User:Tantrum|Tantrum]] 17:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, but am I the only one who thinkks ldans died to an hero sounds awful&lt;br /&gt;
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No.  That&#039;s the &#039;&#039;joke&#039;&#039;.  --[[User: EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 13:29, 24 January 2007&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, but it doesn&#039;t suit the feel of the article&lt;br /&gt;
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== Attention, Kitbashers! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve noticed through several kitbash websites that A lot of people like to kitbash Dinobot&#039;s head, making it much more show accurate.  Is there anyone who is willing to do this for a commission?  If so, contact me via my discussion page. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Protection (Main Caption) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We should probably get this article protected so people will stop changing the main caption.  -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 12:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Needs moar Worf captions. Dinobot is Worf.&lt;br /&gt;
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I personally think the main caption is a needlessly obscure reference to a totally obscure fanfic, and should be replaced by something, y&#039;know, &#039;&#039;funny,&#039;&#039; instead of being treated as sacred.  Opinions?  [[User:JW|JW]] 20:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Anyone? [[User:JW|JW]] 13:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:But that fanfic &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; funny. The entire thing is comedy gold! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;ll stipulate that, but the question is whether the joke makes sense to a sufficient number of the readers of this wiki.  [[User:JW|JW]] 17:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Not all jokes around here are by consensus.  There&#039;s a ton of &#039;em that I don&#039;t get at all, but I assume &#039;&#039;someone&#039;&#039; does.  -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::On the one hand, a wiki is nothing &#039;&#039;but&#039;&#039; consensus.&lt;br /&gt;
::::More to the point, the quote in question may be contentious enough to warrant its replacement.  I.e., it may be dragging the article down.  However, I&#039;ll grant that, unless there&#039;s a lot of support for changing it, and someone suggests a brilliant candidate, it should probably stand.  [[User:JW|JW]] 17:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:But the problem is that anyone hardly knows it, even the fans. I saw it after i was wondering why the caption was a link...unless i&#039;m missing something here.--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The quote is from a very well-known bad fanfic, and there is a link to that fanfic right there with the quote.  We don&#039;t generally pick our captions on the basis of what is understandable by the most people, but even if we did, the fact that there is a link &#039;&#039;right there&#039;&#039; means it has more explanation than a great many of our jokes.  It may be a relatively obscure fanfic now, but nearly anybody who used to read alt.toys.transformers will know of it, and that&#039;s not exactly a small group.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I submit that the percentage of current readers of this wiki who were readers of a.t.tf back in the day is probably smaller than you imagine.  Still, I&#039;ll let the matter rest, since some of the bastions of this wiki clearly love the silly thing.  [[User:JW|JW]] 03:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mc Dinobot now a new character, kinda ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The IDW profile book actually gave MC Dinobot a story, wich is neat, but where does that info go? He was apparently a second failed attempt (between [[Double Dinobot]] and [[Dinobot II]]) by Megs to clone Dinobot. IDW puts him as a subsection of Dinobot II. We give D2 and Double Dino each their own pages, so do we now give him one too? Thoughts?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 18:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: on a totaly unrelated note, megatron sure likes to clone the guy, does he?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== About Animated... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You know, it&#039;s funny?  We now have a BlackArachnia in the new Animated... I&#039;ve been hearing rumors (through this site, actually) about Waspinator coming into this... I could actually come to enjoy Animated with these BW crossovers if Dinobot was also invited to the party somehow, too.  Wishful thinking, I suppose.  Of course, if that happened... *sighs*  you&#039;d have to also bring in Rattrap, I suppose.  Part of what made Dinobot so remarkable, almost legendary in TF history aside from his sense of honor... is the verbally-adversarial friendship between Dinobot and Rattrap.  It actually reminds me of Spock and McCoy from Star Trek.  Next to G1 itself... Dinobot is the one and ONLY thing about Transformers, that I truly miss.  (Any and all outside idea suggestions have been deleted by the anonymous author.)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Also, even as an anonymous user, you still are granted a user Talk page for correspondance.  Please read yours.  This sort of discussion that you&#039;ve started is not what article Talk pages on the Wiki are for; they are for discussing improvements to the site. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 17:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Dinobot (BW)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;68.9.151.104: /* About Animated... */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;So, do we call the clone a seperate character?  But for Rampage&#039;s death, he would have... remaiend so, but it becoems complicated with DB posessing his own clone, and the two never really... existed side-by-side enough to require seperate pages... And yet- by Wiki standards we seem to consider clones seperate dudes.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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TM2 Dinobot &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; a separate character. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s complicated at all, regardless of his totally unexplained personality change in the finale. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*lick*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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For Dinobot&#039;s TM2 entry, notarize that it&#039;s a Predacon clone created by Megatron, and decidedly not the original. In it&#039;s story background, simply say that &#039;Originally, an episode was planned which showed Rattrap uploading the original Dinobot&#039;s memories into the clone. This episode was not made, however, leaving a serious plot hole for the final season of Beast Wars, and the handling of the Dinobot TM2 character.&#039; --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*scratches head*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; Soo... if you make a new body for Dinobot and load his memories into it off a data backup, it&#039;s a new character.  But if you make a new body for &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039;... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Point being is that we never actually SEE Dinobot II&#039;s memory implant (aside from a very well done fan-comic), so he&#039;s still a completely seperate being (a literal twin brother), as far as the cartoon&#039;s involved. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:: No one ever &amp;quot;made a new body &#039;&#039;for&#039;&#039; Dinobot,&amp;quot; Megatron created a clone of the original that would be loyal to him, and gave it life with half of someone else&#039;s spark. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: What he said.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Oh!  Liek prowl and Chip!  Why didn&#039;t you jsut say so? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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How would the *other* Dinobot clone fit in? You know, the one that he ate?&lt;br /&gt;
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I would give &amp;quot;Double Dinobot&amp;quot; a new page.&lt;br /&gt;
P.S. What about a line or two about the Cyber-Raptors?[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 00:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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IIRC, Dinobot&#039;s nontransforming clone was officially named &#039;Clone One.&#039; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
===Character entries===&lt;br /&gt;
They should be written &amp;quot;in universe,&amp;quot; without breaking the fourth wall.  Meaning no &amp;quot;But Jhiaxus how do you live, I thought you died in G2 #11.&amp;quot;  Never reference the name of an episode out-right.  However, you can put the little footnote links to episode pages instead, as I have demonstrated.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ah.  I see, I&#039;ll make sure to do that in the future. [[User:Tantrum|Tantrum]] 17:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, but am I the only one who thinkks ldans died to an hero sounds awful&lt;br /&gt;
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No.  That&#039;s the &#039;&#039;joke&#039;&#039;.  --[[User: EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 13:29, 24 January 2007&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, but it doesn&#039;t suit the feel of the article&lt;br /&gt;
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== Attention, Kitbashers! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve noticed through several kitbash websites that A lot of people like to kitbash Dinobot&#039;s head, making it much more show accurate.  Is there anyone who is willing to do this for a commission?  If so, contact me via my discussion page. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Protection (Main Caption) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We should probably get this article protected so people will stop changing the main caption.  -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 12:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Needs moar Worf captions. Dinobot is Worf.&lt;br /&gt;
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I personally think the main caption is a needlessly obscure reference to a totally obscure fanfic, and should be replaced by something, y&#039;know, &#039;&#039;funny,&#039;&#039; instead of being treated as sacred.  Opinions?  [[User:JW|JW]] 20:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Anyone? [[User:JW|JW]] 13:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:But that fanfic &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; funny. The entire thing is comedy gold! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;ll stipulate that, but the question is whether the joke makes sense to a sufficient number of the readers of this wiki.  [[User:JW|JW]] 17:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Not all jokes around here are by consensus.  There&#039;s a ton of &#039;em that I don&#039;t get at all, but I assume &#039;&#039;someone&#039;&#039; does.  -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::On the one hand, a wiki is nothing &#039;&#039;but&#039;&#039; consensus.&lt;br /&gt;
::::More to the point, the quote in question may be contentious enough to warrant its replacement.  I.e., it may be dragging the article down.  However, I&#039;ll grant that, unless there&#039;s a lot of support for changing it, and someone suggests a brilliant candidate, it should probably stand.  [[User:JW|JW]] 17:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:But the problem is that anyone hardly knows it, even the fans. I saw it after i was wondering why the caption was a link...unless i&#039;m missing something here.--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The quote is from a very well-known bad fanfic, and there is a link to that fanfic right there with the quote.  We don&#039;t generally pick our captions on the basis of what is understandable by the most people, but even if we did, the fact that there is a link &#039;&#039;right there&#039;&#039; means it has more explanation than a great many of our jokes.  It may be a relatively obscure fanfic now, but nearly anybody who used to read alt.toys.transformers will know of it, and that&#039;s not exactly a small group.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I submit that the percentage of current readers of this wiki who were readers of a.t.tf back in the day is probably smaller than you imagine.  Still, I&#039;ll let the matter rest, since some of the bastions of this wiki clearly love the silly thing.  [[User:JW|JW]] 03:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mc Dinobot now a new character, kinda ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The IDW profile book actually gave MC Dinobot a story, wich is neat, but where does that info go? He was apparently a second failed attempt (between [[Double Dinobot]] and [[Dinobot II]]) by Megs to clone Dinobot. IDW puts him as a subsection of Dinobot II. We give D2 and Double Dino each their own pages, so do we now give him one too? Thoughts?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 18:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: on a totaly unrelated note, megatron sure likes to clone the guy, does he?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== About Animated... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You know, it&#039;s funny?  We now have a BlackArachnia in the new Animated... I&#039;ve been hearing rumors about Waspinator coming into this... I could actually come to enjoy Animated if Dinobot was also invited to the party.  Of course, if that happened... *sighs*  you&#039;d have to also bring in Rattrap, I suppose.  Part of what made Dinobot so remarkable, almost legendary in TF history aside from his sense of honor... is the verbally-adversarial friendship between Dinobot and Rattrap.  It actually reminds me of Spock and McCoy from Star Trek.  Next to G1 itself... Dinobot is the one and ONLY thing about Transformers, that I truly miss. &lt;br /&gt;
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I actually think I know how they could both be introduced, come to think of it... just imagine, Rattrap is another maintenance bot... and a real thorn in Sentinel Prime&#039;s skidplate because Rattrap is a VERY successful hacker.  As a backhanded way to make TWO of his problems suffer at once.... Rattrap gets &#039;reassigned&#039;, to work under Optimus Prime on Earth.  Meanwhile, The Dinobots... although dumb as mud, no question... have really started to become more than an irritation to Megatron&#039;s plans somehow.  So, Megatron decides to either find a recruit from one of his deep space troops, a warrior with honor and cunning to try and combat the Dinobots&#039; blind, stupid successes... or he builds one himself.  Just an idea.... &lt;br /&gt;
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P.S.: To the people at TF:Animated... FEEL FREE to steal this idea, so long as it works.  That&#039;s why I call myself Anonymous.  It would be payment enough, to have it work.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Special:Contributions/68.9.151.104|68.9.151.104]] 17:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)Anonymous&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Dinobot (BW)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;68.9.151.104: /* About Animated... */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;So, do we call the clone a seperate character?  But for Rampage&#039;s death, he would have... remaiend so, but it becoems complicated with DB posessing his own clone, and the two never really... existed side-by-side enough to require seperate pages... And yet- by Wiki standards we seem to consider clones seperate dudes.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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TM2 Dinobot &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; a separate character. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s complicated at all, regardless of his totally unexplained personality change in the finale. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*lick*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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For Dinobot&#039;s TM2 entry, notarize that it&#039;s a Predacon clone created by Megatron, and decidedly not the original. In it&#039;s story background, simply say that &#039;Originally, an episode was planned which showed Rattrap uploading the original Dinobot&#039;s memories into the clone. This episode was not made, however, leaving a serious plot hole for the final season of Beast Wars, and the handling of the Dinobot TM2 character.&#039; --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*scratches head*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; Soo... if you make a new body for Dinobot and load his memories into it off a data backup, it&#039;s a new character.  But if you make a new body for &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039;... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Point being is that we never actually SEE Dinobot II&#039;s memory implant (aside from a very well done fan-comic), so he&#039;s still a completely seperate being (a literal twin brother), as far as the cartoon&#039;s involved. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:: No one ever &amp;quot;made a new body &#039;&#039;for&#039;&#039; Dinobot,&amp;quot; Megatron created a clone of the original that would be loyal to him, and gave it life with half of someone else&#039;s spark. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: What he said.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Oh!  Liek prowl and Chip!  Why didn&#039;t you jsut say so? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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How would the *other* Dinobot clone fit in? You know, the one that he ate?&lt;br /&gt;
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I would give &amp;quot;Double Dinobot&amp;quot; a new page.&lt;br /&gt;
P.S. What about a line or two about the Cyber-Raptors?[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 00:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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IIRC, Dinobot&#039;s nontransforming clone was officially named &#039;Clone One.&#039; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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They should be written &amp;quot;in universe,&amp;quot; without breaking the fourth wall.  Meaning no &amp;quot;But Jhiaxus how do you live, I thought you died in G2 #11.&amp;quot;  Never reference the name of an episode out-right.  However, you can put the little footnote links to episode pages instead, as I have demonstrated.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ah.  I see, I&#039;ll make sure to do that in the future. [[User:Tantrum|Tantrum]] 17:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, but am I the only one who thinkks ldans died to an hero sounds awful&lt;br /&gt;
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No.  That&#039;s the &#039;&#039;joke&#039;&#039;.  --[[User: EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 13:29, 24 January 2007&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, but it doesn&#039;t suit the feel of the article&lt;br /&gt;
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== Attention, Kitbashers! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve noticed through several kitbash websites that A lot of people like to kitbash Dinobot&#039;s head, making it much more show accurate.  Is there anyone who is willing to do this for a commission?  If so, contact me via my discussion page. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Protection (Main Caption) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We should probably get this article protected so people will stop changing the main caption.  -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 12:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Needs moar Worf captions. Dinobot is Worf.&lt;br /&gt;
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I personally think the main caption is a needlessly obscure reference to a totally obscure fanfic, and should be replaced by something, y&#039;know, &#039;&#039;funny,&#039;&#039; instead of being treated as sacred.  Opinions?  [[User:JW|JW]] 20:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Anyone? [[User:JW|JW]] 13:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:But that fanfic &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; funny. The entire thing is comedy gold! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;ll stipulate that, but the question is whether the joke makes sense to a sufficient number of the readers of this wiki.  [[User:JW|JW]] 17:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Not all jokes around here are by consensus.  There&#039;s a ton of &#039;em that I don&#039;t get at all, but I assume &#039;&#039;someone&#039;&#039; does.  -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::On the one hand, a wiki is nothing &#039;&#039;but&#039;&#039; consensus.&lt;br /&gt;
::::More to the point, the quote in question may be contentious enough to warrant its replacement.  I.e., it may be dragging the article down.  However, I&#039;ll grant that, unless there&#039;s a lot of support for changing it, and someone suggests a brilliant candidate, it should probably stand.  [[User:JW|JW]] 17:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:But the problem is that anyone hardly knows it, even the fans. I saw it after i was wondering why the caption was a link...unless i&#039;m missing something here.--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The quote is from a very well-known bad fanfic, and there is a link to that fanfic right there with the quote.  We don&#039;t generally pick our captions on the basis of what is understandable by the most people, but even if we did, the fact that there is a link &#039;&#039;right there&#039;&#039; means it has more explanation than a great many of our jokes.  It may be a relatively obscure fanfic now, but nearly anybody who used to read alt.toys.transformers will know of it, and that&#039;s not exactly a small group.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I submit that the percentage of current readers of this wiki who were readers of a.t.tf back in the day is probably smaller than you imagine.  Still, I&#039;ll let the matter rest, since some of the bastions of this wiki clearly love the silly thing.  [[User:JW|JW]] 03:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mc Dinobot now a new character, kinda ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The IDW profile book actually gave MC Dinobot a story, wich is neat, but where does that info go? He was apparently a second failed attempt (between [[Double Dinobot]] and [[Dinobot II]]) by Megs to clone Dinobot. IDW puts him as a subsection of Dinobot II. We give D2 and Double Dino each their own pages, so do we now give him one too? Thoughts?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 18:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: on a totaly unrelated note, megatron sure likes to clone the guy, does he?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== About Animated... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You know, it&#039;s funny?  We now have a BlackArachnia in the new Animated... I&#039;ve been hearing rumors about Waspinator coming into this... I could actually come to enjoy Animated if Dinobot was also invited to the party.  Of course, if that happened... *sighs*  you&#039;d have to also bring in Rattrap, I suppose.  Part of what made Dinobot so remarkable, almost legendary in TF history aside from his sense of honor... is the verbally-adversarial friendship between Dinobot and Rattrap.  It actually reminds me of Spock and McCoy from Star Trek.  Next to G1 itself... Dinobot is the one and ONLY thing about Transformers, that I truly miss. &lt;br /&gt;
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I actually think I know how they could both be introduced, come to think of it... just imagine, Rattrap is another maintenance bot... and a real thorn in Sentinel Prime&#039;s skidplate because Rattrap is a VERY successful hacker.  As a backhanded way to make TWO of his problems suffer at once.... Rattrap gets &#039;reassigned&#039;, to work under Optimus Prime on Earth.  Meanwhile, The Dinobots... although dumb as mud, no question... have really started to become more than an irritation to Megatron&#039;s plans somehow.  So, Megatron decides to either find a recruit from one of his deep space troops, a warrior with honor and cunning to try and combat the Dinobots&#039; blind, stupid successes... or he builds one himself.  Just an idea.... [[Special:Contributions/68.9.151.104|68.9.151.104]] 17:06, 9 May 2008 (UTC)Anonymous.&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;So, do we call the clone a seperate character?  But for Rampage&#039;s death, he would have... remaiend so, but it becoems complicated with DB posessing his own clone, and the two never really... existed side-by-side enough to require seperate pages... And yet- by Wiki standards we seem to consider clones seperate dudes.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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TM2 Dinobot &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; a separate character. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s complicated at all, regardless of his totally unexplained personality change in the finale. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*lick*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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For Dinobot&#039;s TM2 entry, notarize that it&#039;s a Predacon clone created by Megatron, and decidedly not the original. In it&#039;s story background, simply say that &#039;Originally, an episode was planned which showed Rattrap uploading the original Dinobot&#039;s memories into the clone. This episode was not made, however, leaving a serious plot hole for the final season of Beast Wars, and the handling of the Dinobot TM2 character.&#039; --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*scratches head*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; Soo... if you make a new body for Dinobot and load his memories into it off a data backup, it&#039;s a new character.  But if you make a new body for &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039;... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Point being is that we never actually SEE Dinobot II&#039;s memory implant (aside from a very well done fan-comic), so he&#039;s still a completely seperate being (a literal twin brother), as far as the cartoon&#039;s involved. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:: No one ever &amp;quot;made a new body &#039;&#039;for&#039;&#039; Dinobot,&amp;quot; Megatron created a clone of the original that would be loyal to him, and gave it life with half of someone else&#039;s spark. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: What he said.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Oh!  Liek prowl and Chip!  Why didn&#039;t you jsut say so? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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How would the *other* Dinobot clone fit in? You know, the one that he ate?&lt;br /&gt;
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I would give &amp;quot;Double Dinobot&amp;quot; a new page.&lt;br /&gt;
P.S. What about a line or two about the Cyber-Raptors?[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 00:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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IIRC, Dinobot&#039;s nontransforming clone was officially named &#039;Clone One.&#039; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
===Character entries===&lt;br /&gt;
They should be written &amp;quot;in universe,&amp;quot; without breaking the fourth wall.  Meaning no &amp;quot;But Jhiaxus how do you live, I thought you died in G2 #11.&amp;quot;  Never reference the name of an episode out-right.  However, you can put the little footnote links to episode pages instead, as I have demonstrated.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ah.  I see, I&#039;ll make sure to do that in the future. [[User:Tantrum|Tantrum]] 17:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, but am I the only one who thinkks ldans died to an hero sounds awful&lt;br /&gt;
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No.  That&#039;s the &#039;&#039;joke&#039;&#039;.  --[[User: EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 13:29, 24 January 2007&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, but it doesn&#039;t suit the feel of the article&lt;br /&gt;
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== Attention, Kitbashers! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve noticed through several kitbash websites that A lot of people like to kitbash Dinobot&#039;s head, making it much more show accurate.  Is there anyone who is willing to do this for a commission?  If so, contact me via my discussion page. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Protection (Main Caption) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We should probably get this article protected so people will stop changing the main caption.  -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 12:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Needs moar Worf captions. Dinobot is Worf.&lt;br /&gt;
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I personally think the main caption is a needlessly obscure reference to a totally obscure fanfic, and should be replaced by something, y&#039;know, &#039;&#039;funny,&#039;&#039; instead of being treated as sacred.  Opinions?  [[User:JW|JW]] 20:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Anyone? [[User:JW|JW]] 13:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:But that fanfic &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; funny. The entire thing is comedy gold! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;ll stipulate that, but the question is whether the joke makes sense to a sufficient number of the readers of this wiki.  [[User:JW|JW]] 17:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Not all jokes around here are by consensus.  There&#039;s a ton of &#039;em that I don&#039;t get at all, but I assume &#039;&#039;someone&#039;&#039; does.  -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::On the one hand, a wiki is nothing &#039;&#039;but&#039;&#039; consensus.&lt;br /&gt;
::::More to the point, the quote in question may be contentious enough to warrant its replacement.  I.e., it may be dragging the article down.  However, I&#039;ll grant that, unless there&#039;s a lot of support for changing it, and someone suggests a brilliant candidate, it should probably stand.  [[User:JW|JW]] 17:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:But the problem is that anyone hardly knows it, even the fans. I saw it after i was wondering why the caption was a link...unless i&#039;m missing something here.--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:The quote is from a very well-known bad fanfic, and there is a link to that fanfic right there with the quote.  We don&#039;t generally pick our captions on the basis of what is understandable by the most people, but even if we did, the fact that there is a link &#039;&#039;right there&#039;&#039; means it has more explanation than a great many of our jokes.  It may be a relatively obscure fanfic now, but nearly anybody who used to read alt.toys.transformers will know of it, and that&#039;s not exactly a small group.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I submit that the percentage of current readers of this wiki who were readers of a.t.tf back in the day is probably smaller than you imagine.  Still, I&#039;ll let the matter rest, since some of the bastions of this wiki clearly love the silly thing.  [[User:JW|JW]] 03:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mc Dinobot now a new character, kinda ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The IDW profile book actually gave MC Dinobot a story, wich is neat, but where does that info go? He was apparently a second failed attempt (between [[Double Dinobot]] and [[Dinobot II]]) by Megs to clone Dinobot. IDW puts him as a subsection of Dinobot II. We give D2 and Double Dino each their own pages, so do we now give him one too? Thoughts?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 18:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: on a totaly unrelated note, megatron sure likes to clone the guy, does he?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== About Animated... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You know, it&#039;s funny?  We now have a BlackArachnia in the new Animated... I&#039;ve been hearing rumors about Waspinator coming into this... I could actually come to enjoy Animated if Dinobot was also invited to the party.  Of course, if that happened... *sighs*  you&#039;d have to also bring in Rattrap, I suppose.  Part of what made Dinobot so remarkable, almost legendary in TF history aside from his sense of honor... is the verbally-adversarial friendship between Dinobot and Rattrap.  It actually reminds me of Spock and McCoy from Star Trek.  Next to G1 itself... Dinobot is the one and ONLY thing about Transformers, that I truly miss.  [[Special:Contributions/68.9.151.104|68.9.151.104]] 16:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)Anonymous.&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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