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Satellite of Doom

2009-11-16T14:08:08Z

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'''The Decepticons blow up some coal, which somehow creates a huge diamond, which will somehow melt the Rocky Mountains, which will somehow create a lot of oil. Oh, and kill a lot of humans, too.'''

==Synopsis==
The Decepticons have excavated a huge cavern beneath [[Africa]]'s [[Kalahari Desert]]. The Decepticons have tricked thousands of humans into digging the chamber for them, luring them with promises of wealth and then enslaving them. Soundwave is eager to leave; the sand is fouling his cassette drives and everyone else's transmissions. Bulldozers are used to pack the entire chamber solid with coal and [[lectonite]] explosives.

Above, Skyfire has tracked one of the coal transports to the desert, and finds a dying human on the surface. He reports his findings to Prowl and Optimus at the Autobot command center. Prowl has a sensor drone read the human's "residual brain wave pattern" and learns of the slaves and the coal deposit.

The Decepticon command ship blasts off from the desert, and Megatron detonates the explosives. Amid the biggest explosion the world has ever seen, the coal and the thousands of trapped slaves are compressed into the biggest diamond ever created.

The Decepticons transport the diamond to a satellite-launching base deep in the jungles of Mato Grosso, [[Brazil]]. After laser-cutting the diamond, they prepare to launch. Megatron gloats about his plan: the satellite will create a lens to focus the sun's energy and melt the [[Rocky Mountains]], turning it to a sea of oil. Unbeknownst to him, Bumblebee has been spying on them.

Prime sends Skyfire to attack the satellite as it launches, but the rocket survives and continues skyward. Megatron blows up the launch platform and escapes. The satellite arrives in position and awaits only the sun's rays to energize it. Prime and Prowl watch in horror as the first rays begin to strike the satellite, realizing that millions of lives are in danger.

The satellite's beam ignites forests instantly and begins melting rocks. Rivers and lakes of molten rock form, rapidly expanding.

Ratchet rigs Skyfire with emergency boosters to allow him to reach the satellite; Skyfire launches, knowing he's got no way to return safely to Earth, and launches his attack.

Megatron and Soundwave gloat and hoo-hah as Skyfire's attack does no damage, and the Autobot burns up on re-entry. Prime, meanwhile, has Ratchet rig together a square mile of polished metal. A squad of Autobots uses electromagnetic force to fly the panel into space below the satellite. The giant mirror reflects the satellite's beam, instantly detonating it with enough force to raise Earth's tides ten feet.

The Autobots track Megatron's signal back to his hidden base and attack, blowing the base open with [[Thermo-excavator missile|thermo-excavator missiles]]. Megatron and Soundwave escape aboard a [[turbine mole machine]], and Earth is safe... for now!

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* [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] (8)
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==Quotes==
"Everything will be completed on time, mighty Megatron! The entire cavern will be filled within a cocoon of lectonite explosives, just as you ordered!" 
"Your worthless mecha-life depends on that, Soundwave."
:—'''Soundwave''' and '''Megatron'''. "Mecha-life". Because, you see, he's a machine; therefore, he has a ''mecha''-life.

"And did you see how the Autobot superjet burned on re-entry into the atmosphere! That was nice too!"
:—The writer sure has a firm grasp on '''Soundwave''''s stoic personality.

"Busted gears and cracked drive shafts!"
:—'''Megatron''', please! There are children in the audience!

"Optimus Prime, you ''metallic nemesis!"''
:—'''Megatron''' sure has a knack for zingy one-liners.

==Notes==
===Animation and/or technical glitches===
* The art is a weird mix of copied [[package art]], [[Character model|animation models]], original toy-based drawings, and Builder Bob-like humans.

===Continuity errors===
* The satellite doesn't appear large enough to collect a significant amount of sunlight, certainly not enough to start melting rocks.
* Skyfire attacks the satellite with [[Null-ray|null-rays]], not normally a part of his arsenal.

===Miscellaneous trivia===
* No credits are given for the voice cast.
* Holy crap, the Decepticons totally just killed thousands of humans in the first five pages of a childrens' storybook. Who wrote this, [[Pat Lee]]?
* Holy crap, the Decepticons totally just melted the [[Rocky Mountains]] into a puddle! Who wrote this, [[Shane McCarthy]]?
* Holy crap, they totally just killed off Skyfire! Who wrote this, [[Simon Furman]]??
* This is one of several "episodes" to have been given the [[MSTF]] treatment at the official Transformers conventions... specifically, at [[OTFCC 2003]].

==External links==
* [http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~sstoneb/tf/books/kidstuff/satellite.html Satellite of Doom] at Steve-o's Transformers Site.
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2MvUSke7mY&feature=PlayList&p=DE0E647EF31DC9BF&index=0&playnext=1 See and Read video]] at Youtube.

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[[Category:MSTF]]

Zebediah Braxis

2009-11-15T23:49:51Z

69.14.142.90:

:''Doctor B is a [[human]] from [[Tonka GoBots]].''

'''"Doctor B"''' was a white-haired scientist.

==Fiction==
===''TransTech''===
He discovered that his entire universe was in danger of being overwritten by another. Using the [[dimensional interfacer]] machine he had invented, he sent six cyborg warriors—four [[Guardian (GoBots)|Guardians]], two [[Renegade]]s—to the 22nd level to investigate, but they ended up in [[Axiom Nexus]] instead. {{storylink|Withered Hope}}

==Notes==
[[Image:Braxis.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Doctor Braxis: Scientist. Renegade. Fashion plate.]]
"Doctor B" is pretty obviously meant to be '''Doctor Braxis''', the human scientist from the ''[[Challenge of the GoBots]]''. In that show, Braxis plays largely the same role for the Renegades that [[Doctor Arkeville]] plays for the [[Decepticon]]s in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]].

The main difference is that while Arkeville appeared only in the three "[[The Ultimate Doom, Part 1|The]] [[The Ultimate Doom, Part 2|Ultimate]] [[The Ultimate Doom, Part 3|Doom]]" episodes and "[[Countdown to Extinction (episode)|Countdown to Extinction]]", Braxis was a recurring character throughout the entire series' run. Whenever [[Cy-Kill (GoBots)|Cy-Kill]] needed scientific expertise, he almost always turned to the human. Depending on Cy-Kill's mood, Braxis was treated as anything from "marginally better than disposable" to "full-fledged fellow Renegade".

The dimensional interfacer used in "Withered Hope" made its debut in the two-part "Invasion From The 21st Level" episode.

Braxis swung from smugly confident to panicky shrieking at the drop of a hat, and his portrayal by famed character actor Rene Auberjonois was arguably the voice-acting highlight of the show (possibly barring [[Peter Cullen]]'s turn as three other Renegades: Pincher, Spoiler, and Tank).

{{DEFAULTSORT:B}}

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Talk:Satellite of Doom

2009-11-15T23:41:47Z

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Unreleased Dreamwave issues

2009-11-15T00:51:36Z

69.14.142.90: /* Energon: More Than Meets The Eye */

When [[Dreamwave Productions]] declared bankruptcy in 2005, several of their series were left hanging without any strong sense of closure. However, various sources have revealed small portions of what might have been, including solicitations sent to retailers before the bankruptcy. At New York Comic-Con 2009 [[IDW Publishing]] revealed that while they do have the artwork from the unfinished/unpublished issues, they will not complete and print the issues as there is significant doubt that the artists and writers were paid for their work during the tail end of Dreamwave's run on the brand.

==''Energon''==
Despite [[No Exit|issue #30]] completing its current storyline, ''[[Energon (comic)|Energon]]'' still had many unresolved plot points. Hasbro copywriter [[Forest Lee]] has suggested that the [[Cybertron (cartoon)|''Cybertron'' cartoon]] can be considered a follow-up, though it does require some stretching.

===Issue 31===
"REVELATIONS! Just who is (or rather, was) Alpha Quintesson, and what are his true plans for Cybertron, Earth… and Unicron? While seeming to serve the chaos-bringer, the multi-faceted alien has been developing a world-shattering agenda of his own, one that bridges worlds and dimensions. Now, at last, Alpha Quintesson begins his ‘endgame,’ and first in his sights is the Mini-Con Over-Run!"

===Issue 32===
"Demolished! The next — and final — Energon story arc gets underway in earnest! It’s the beginning of the end as Alpha Quintesson and Councillor Avalon's quest for the mysterious Conduit centers once more on the Autobots' human ally, Kicker. The all-new, upgraded Demolisher is on the case, and he’ll stop at nothing — literally — to get the job done. Get ready for Armageddon!"

===Issue 33===
"INFERNO! What happens when four living Energon powerhouses tackle a being of pure Energon? It’s the fighting-mad Omnicons —Arcee, Signal Flare, Strongarm and Skyblast — versus the plainly mad Starscream, and the result is an Energon inferno that threatens to consume Cybertron! Plus… the return of Unicron’s Four Horsemen and the shocking secret of the planet Nervissa!"

==''Energon: More Than Meets The Eye''==
In keeping with ''[[Armada (Dreamwave comic)|Armada]]'', a three-part ''More Than Meets The Eye'' series of ''Energon'' characters was also planned. Much of the artwork and profiles were completed. [[Alex Milne]] produced artwork for several character's profiles, which he ended up displaying and selling at conventions. These included Alpha Quintesson<ref>http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h214/Scaleface/Energon%20MTMTE/?action=view&current=mtmte-alphaquinetssion.jpg</ref>, Alpha Trion<ref>http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h214/Scaleface/Energon%20MTMTE/?action=view&current=mtmte-alphatrion.jpg</ref>, Arcee<ref>http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h214/Scaleface/Energon%20MTMTE/?action=view&current=mtmte-arcee.jpg</ref>, Avalon<ref>http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h214/Scaleface/Energon%20MTMTE/?action=view&current=mtmte-avalon.jpg</ref>, Galvatron<ref>http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h214/Scaleface/Energon%20MTMTE/?action=view&current=mtmte-galvatron.jpg</ref>, Levitacus<ref>http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h214/Scaleface/Energon%20MTMTE/?action=view&current=mtmte-leviticus.jpg</ref> and Mirage<ref>http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h214/Scaleface/Energon%20MTMTE/?action=view&current=mtmte-mirage.jpg</ref>.

===Issue 1===
"It’s Energon’s turn to get the MTMTE treatment! Dreamwave’s mega-successful series of official Transformers guidebooks returns with enough Energon facts, figures and profiles to put a smile on the face of any Trans-fananatic. You’ll learn the secrets of Alpha Quintesson, discover the truth behind Kicker, and get even more info on Hot Shot, Jetfire, and dozens more! Brought to you by Transformers Energon series writer Simon Furman and a plethora of your favorite TF artists."

===Issue 2===
"Optimus Prime! Megatron! Omega Supreme! The heavy hitters are out in full force in book 2 of Dreamwave’s official guide to
Transformers: Energon. You’ll also get the goods on the powerful Energon Saber, the origin of the Omnicons, Unicron’s Four
Horsemen, and more. Look for the third and final installment next month!"

==''War Within: The Age of Wrath''==
''[[War Within: The Age of Wrath|War Within: The Age of Wrath]]'' would presumably have concluded with the defeat of the [[Air Warrior|Aerospace Extermination Squad]], based on the events of later stories. Many of the major characters -- including Grimlock, seemingly killed in issue #1 -- appear in later stories as well and therefore must have survived.

Additionally, several pages of art work were published in the [[Unofficial conventions|TransformersCon]] 2005 Program (which had several ex-Dreamwave employees as special guests). The covers to the issues were also seen in solicitations to comic retailers.

===Issue 4===
"ALONE! Stranded on a strange alien world, far, far from Cybertron, Turbomaster Flash is about to realize there really is no place like home... even when home is ruled by arch tyrant Megatron and his legions of clone warriors. The terrible truth behind the invasion and conquest of Cybertron is finally revealed. Now all Flash has to do is stay alive long enough to tell someone!"

* Cover: [[Flash (G1)|Flash]] stranded on an alien planet.
* Pages 1,2,3: Flash on an alien planet being attacked by [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]]. Meanwhile on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] talks with the other [[Turbomaster]]s.
* Page 4: Perceptor prepares to examine a captured clone warrior from the Aerospace Extermination Squadron.

===Issue 5===
"HE'S BACK! Optimus Prime, right? Well... maybe. But then again... maybe not! Blaster's desperate bid to free the enslaved
Autobots lies in ruins, his and his entire team's lives are Megatron's to take at his will. But in their darkest hour, a hero returns to the fray, a force too powerful to be contained even by death's dark dominion. Prepare to be shocked senseless all over again!"

* Cover: [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] held at gunpoint by [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]].
* Page 1: Shockwave's lab, with a studied Clone Trooper over a deactivated [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]].
* Page 2: Two deactivated clone troopers lying in a heavily damaged lab. Also, small, dead Piranhacons litter the floor amidst the shattered remains of the tank Megatron used to torture Starscream in. Starscream himself is lying there alive but in a great deal of pain, curled into a fetal position.
* Page 5: Blaster fights against Clone Troopers and Megatron, using sound attacks and his [[electro-scrambler]].

===Issue 6===
"Last Stand! Finally... the battle you've been waiting for! Optimus Prime returns to take on his archenemy Megatron. But is Prime the 'bot he was? Scarred mentally and physically by his nightmarish exile, Prime plainly may not be up to the job! But if he can't beat Megatron and stop the rise of his second-generation clone army ... who can?"

* Cover: [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] battling [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], as [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] watches in the background.

==''Generation One''==
Several covers of ''[[Generation One (Dreamwave comic)|Generation One]]'' were distributed to comic retailers in solicitations. Pages from the unreleased issue 11 were published in the fourth issue of ''The Comic Book Digest'' from [http://lamppostpubs.com Lamp Post Publications]. Additional pages leaked onto the internet revealed a great number of [[Exosuit]]s. In all likelihood, these are connected to [[Project Centurion]] mentioned in "[[The Route of All Evil]]".

[[Chris Sarracini]] and [[Guido Guidi]] were to take over from #12. [http://seibertron.com/comics/view.php?comic_id=748]

===Issue 11===
[[Image:G1Dreamwaveongoing11.jpg|right|150px|thumb|We blame Dreamwave's fall on YOU!]]
"Because YOU demanded it: The return of the Dinobots! The hot-tempered cavalier Hot Rod finds himself in over his head when a mysterious group of Transformers-like warriors interferes with a standard transfer mission. What are these mysterious agents truly after, and what hope do Hot Rod and his team have of stopping them? Featuring the return of the fan-favorite Dinobots, the first-ever comic book debut of some of Generation One's most desirable characters, and much, much more!" [http://seibertron.com/comics/view.php?comic_id=746]

* Cover: Several female robots, lookin' deadly as [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]]'s hand reaches up to them.
* Page 1: Hot Rod looking up at a deactivated [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] being held in a repair chamber.
* Page 2: Hot Rod passing by [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] and [[Gnaw]] and looking out of a window.
* Page 3: Presumably due to a printing error, has the same artwork from page 2
* Page 4: [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] looks out a window towards Cybertron shrinking in the distance, as she, [[Kup (G1)|Kup]], [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], and the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] travel on their way to Cybertron's moon.
* Page 5: Hot Rod, Wheelie, and Gnaw see a [[Female Autobots|female robot]] teleport into the facility.
* Page 6: Hot Rod attacks the female robot, but she delivers a knee to his chest. Wheelie and Gnaw hide.
* Page 7: The female robot ducks a punch from Hot Rod. She deactivates Hot Rod before he can sound the alarm (at a Transformerscon 2005 guest panel, it was mentioned by the writers that the female robots were to be skilled martial artists). She sends a communication back to [[Quintessa]]
* Page 8: More females teleport into the facility. Gnaw transforms to fight them off, but like Hot Rod, he's quickly disabled.

===Issue 12===
[[Image:G1 ongoing 12a.jpg|thumb|right|150px]]
"This is it: the return of the most popular Transformer of all time! Yes, the indomitable Optimus Prime is finally back, ready to chew Energon and kick bumper-and he's all outta Energon! But the question is: where is he? Find out in this thrill-packed anniversary issue, as the greatest Autobots leader ever faces off against the ravenous Sharkticons and their cruel masters, the Quintessons! Don't miss this special birthday issue, a perfect jumping-on point featuring Optimus Prime himself ushering in an all-new era of Transformers greatness. The countdown to 2005 begins now!"

* Cover: Optimus Prime holding the body of [[Elita One]] in a manner reminiscent of [http://www.comics.org/details.lasso?id=34632 ''The Uncanny X-Men'' #136] and [http://www.comics.org/details.lasso?id=40485 ''Crisis On Infinite Earths'' #7]. There was also going to be a variant cover featuring a drawing of Optimus Prime by [[Pat Lee]]. Ideally, the issue would have been released during December, which Dreamwave was calling their "Optimus Prime Month".

===Issue 13===
"2005 is here - and the battle for the universe begins! Created by the sinister Unicron, the lone Cyclonus has been dispatched to search the galaxy for the missing Alpha herald, Scourge. But when his mission leads him to a top-secret storage facility on Earth, will Cyclonus find the end of his quest or the business end of several high-caliber EDC-issued blasters? This initial arc - "Detection" kicks off the biggest, baddest Generation One storyline ever! Get in on the ground floor for a front-row seat to the beginning - of the apocalypse!"

* Cover: [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] holding the head of [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]]

===Issue 14===
"The humans fight back as the “Contact” arc continues! Recovering from Cyclonus’ violent assault on their facilities, the EDC tries to equalize the odds by activating its top secret defense plan—Project Centurion! Suspecting something sinister, Marissa begins to explore the real motives behind the EDC’s newest operation. Fearing the worst, the recently revived Autobot leader Optimus Prime rallies his troops on both Earth and Cybertron for the dark future looming on the horizon."

===Generation One 2004 Datatracks Annual===
This low-priced one shot was to be written by James McDonough and Adam Patyk, with art by Joe Ng and Don Figueroa.

"As Generation One’s 20th anniversary celebration comes to a close, Dreamwave pulls out all the stops to reveal the all-new 2004 Datatracks, which boasts an original short story featuring the one and only Optimus Prime fighting alongside his brother, Ultra Magnus! Not only that, but fans can also expect brand-new expanded MTMTE entries for the female Autobots, Sunstorm, and a few more surprises! This exciting one-shot annual is the perfect way to cap off “Optimus Prime Month,” while kicking 2005 into overdrive! This comic is priced to move at only $1.95 — so don’t miss out!"

* Cover: Optimus Prime and a dearmored [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] stand back to back, with images of Autobots, Decepticons, Quintessons and humans displayed behind them.

==''Beast Wars''==
Although heavily advertised, no issues of ''[[Beast Wars (comic)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Shell Game (Dreamwave)|''Shell Game'']] saw print. Scans found on the internet show it would have had strong similarities to the ''[[The Gathering|Beast Wars: The Gathering]]'' by the same creative team, and Simon Furman's [http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2007/12/24/xmas-wrap/ original #1 script] confirms that much of mini-series was recycled into ''Gathering''. A key difference was that the TV cast were to be involved. In addition, this Beast Wars would have tied in with the Ongoing G1 series.

The solicitation for #2 reveals there would be a flashback to "just after the end of the Great War on Cybertron... and witness the trial of Megatron!The verdict and judgment that follow set in motion a truly terrifying chain of events...". [http://seibertron.com/comics/view.php?comic_id=785] The cover showed the Beast Wars Megatron on trial, so that's probably the Megatron they meant.

At Transformerscon 2004, Pat Lee also expressed an interest in possibly doing a complete series of [[More Than Meets The Eye (G1)|More Than Meets The Eye]] profile books for ''Beast Wars'', including all non-show characters. As you can imagine, this never happened, but again, was an idea [[Beast Wars Sourcebook|eventually implemented]] by IDW.

==''Transformers/G.I. Joe: Divided Front''==
Dreamwave's second crossover, ''[[Transformers/G.I. Joe: Divided Front]]'' managed to have one issue released before the company folded. Adam Patyk and James McDonough were scheduled to write issues 2-5, while Chris Sarracini was slated to write issue 6. Pat Lee was to draw all of the remaining issues.

===Issue 2===
"The secrets of G.I. JOE and COBRA'S past are revealed as the greatest arms race in history intensifies, blazing a path
across the world. Desperate for an equalizer, the JOES raid a top-secret COBRA bunker located in the Everglades. But when COBRA'S newly hired DREADNOK biker gang intervenes, will the JOES be too late to gain the advantage and-more importantly-save their Autobot allies?!

* Cover: [[Zarana]], the [[Dreadnoks]], and a deactivated [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]]

===Issue 3===
"FAN-FAVE FIREFLY DEBUTS! Snake Eyes is a hard ninja to kill...which is why COBRA Commander has called in one of his biggest guns to do the job: the assassin Firefly! What is the history behind this COBRA’S rivalry with Snake Eyes? And can the Joes’ ninja overcome this deadly saboteur in time to help his teammates retrieve the stolen Transformer technology from COBRA’S secret Arctic base? It’s chaos on the ice as the Autobots face off against Destro’s deadly COBRA/Decepticon hybrid
warriors, with Starscream waiting to pick up the pieces!"

* Cover: [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] under attack from a pair of jets, and [[Snake-Eyes]] facing off against [[Firefly]]

===Issue 4===
"AUTOBOT vs. AUTOBOT! It’s a robot riot as the new Cold War over the Transformers really starts to heat up! The G.I. Joes and their Autobot allies try to reconcile their opposing views and unite against COBRA...but can they? They’re not the only ones whose tempers are flaring, as members of COBRA prepare to foil their increasingly deranged leader’s top-secret project…if the mutineers can make it past Firefly and the elite Crimson Guard, that is!"

* Cover: Ironhide fights against [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], and [[Shipwreck]] is there too.

===Issue 5===
"What is the terrible secret buried beneath Cobra Island? Whatever it is, Starscream and Soundwave want it bad...bad enough to destroy Cobra Commander if he doesn’t give it to them! Flint and the Autobots must prepare an all-out assault of the island themselves to prevent the villains’ evil plans, but can the G.I. Joes count on Snake Eyes to help them...or will his vendetta against Firefly doom them all?"

* Cover: [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] and [[Cobra Commander]] stand over a fallen Shipwreck.

===Issue 6===
"COBRA’s plans for domination are in full effect and, thanks to Destro, the Autobots and the Joes are now public enemy #1! Even so, will our heroes be able to thwart Destro’s plans? Maybe...but you won’t believe who going to help them out. The ultimate retro crossover is about to go out with a bang!"

[[Category:Dreamwave issues]]
[[Category:Things that don't exist]]

Unreleased Dreamwave issues

2009-11-15T00:35:05Z

69.14.142.90: /* Energon: More Than Meets The Eye */

When [[Dreamwave Productions]] declared bankruptcy in 2005, several of their series were left hanging without any strong sense of closure. However, various sources have revealed small portions of what might have been, including solicitations sent to retailers before the bankruptcy. At New York Comic-Con 2009 [[IDW Publishing]] revealed that while they do have the artwork from the unfinished/unpublished issues, they will not complete and print the issues as there is significant doubt that the artists and writers were paid for their work during the tail end of Dreamwave's run on the brand.

==''Energon''==
Despite [[No Exit|issue #30]] completing its current storyline, ''[[Energon (comic)|Energon]]'' still had many unresolved plot points. Hasbro copywriter [[Forest Lee]] has suggested that the [[Cybertron (cartoon)|''Cybertron'' cartoon]] can be considered a follow-up, though it does require some stretching.

===Issue 31===
"REVELATIONS! Just who is (or rather, was) Alpha Quintesson, and what are his true plans for Cybertron, Earth… and Unicron? While seeming to serve the chaos-bringer, the multi-faceted alien has been developing a world-shattering agenda of his own, one that bridges worlds and dimensions. Now, at last, Alpha Quintesson begins his ‘endgame,’ and first in his sights is the Mini-Con Over-Run!"

===Issue 32===
"Demolished! The next — and final — Energon story arc gets underway in earnest! It’s the beginning of the end as Alpha Quintesson and Councillor Avalon's quest for the mysterious Conduit centers once more on the Autobots' human ally, Kicker. The all-new, upgraded Demolisher is on the case, and he’ll stop at nothing — literally — to get the job done. Get ready for Armageddon!"

===Issue 33===
"INFERNO! What happens when four living Energon powerhouses tackle a being of pure Energon? It’s the fighting-mad Omnicons —Arcee, Signal Flare, Strongarm and Skyblast — versus the plainly mad Starscream, and the result is an Energon inferno that threatens to consume Cybertron! Plus… the return of Unicron’s Four Horsemen and the shocking secret of the planet Nervissa!"

==''Energon: More Than Meets The Eye''==
In keeping with ''[[Armada (Dreamwave comic)|Armada]]'', a three-part ''More Than Meets The Eye'' series of ''Energon'' characters was also planned. Much of the artwork and profiles were completed. Alex Milne produced artwork for several character's profiles, which he ended up displaying and selling at conventions. These included Alpha Quintesson<ref>http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h214/Scaleface/Energon%20MTMTE/?action=view&current=mtmte-alphaquinetssion.jpg</ref>, Alpha Trion<ref>http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h214/Scaleface/Energon%20MTMTE/?action=view&current=mtmte-alphatrion.jpg</ref>, Arcee<ref>http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h214/Scaleface/Energon%20MTMTE/?action=view&current=mtmte-arcee.jpg</ref>, Avalon<ref>http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h214/Scaleface/Energon%20MTMTE/?action=view&current=mtmte-avalon.jpg</ref>, Galvatron<ref>http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h214/Scaleface/Energon%20MTMTE/?action=view&current=mtmte-galvatron.jpg</ref>, Levitacus, Mirage<ref>http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h214/Scaleface/Energon%20MTMTE/?action=view&current=mtmte-mirage.jpg</ref>.

===Issue 1===
"It’s Energon’s turn to get the MTMTE treatment! Dreamwave’s mega-successful series of official Transformers guidebooks returns with enough Energon facts, figures and profiles to put a smile on the face of any Trans-fananatic. You’ll learn the secrets of Alpha Quintesson, discover the truth behind Kicker, and get even more info on Hot Shot, Jetfire, and dozens more! Brought to you by Transformers Energon series writer Simon Furman and a plethora of your favorite TF artists."

===Issue 2===
"Optimus Prime! Megatron! Omega Supreme! The heavy hitters are out in full force in book 2 of Dreamwave’s official guide to
Transformers: Energon. You’ll also get the goods on the powerful Energon Saber, the origin of the Omnicons, Unicron’s Four
Horsemen, and more. Look for the third and final installment next month!"

==''War Within: The Age of Wrath''==
''[[War Within: The Age of Wrath|War Within: The Age of Wrath]]'' would presumably have concluded with the defeat of the [[Air Warrior|Aerospace Extermination Squad]], based on the events of later stories. Many of the major characters -- including Grimlock, seemingly killed in issue #1 -- appear in later stories as well and therefore must have survived.

Additionally, several pages of art work were published in the [[Unofficial conventions|TransformersCon]] 2005 Program (which had several ex-Dreamwave employees as special guests). The covers to the issues were also seen in solicitations to comic retailers.

===Issue 4===
"ALONE! Stranded on a strange alien world, far, far from Cybertron, Turbomaster Flash is about to realize there really is no place like home... even when home is ruled by arch tyrant Megatron and his legions of clone warriors. The terrible truth behind the invasion and conquest of Cybertron is finally revealed. Now all Flash has to do is stay alive long enough to tell someone!"

* Cover: [[Flash (G1)|Flash]] stranded on an alien planet.
* Pages 1,2,3: Flash on an alien planet being attacked by [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]]. Meanwhile on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] talks with the other [[Turbomaster]]s.
* Page 4: Perceptor prepares to examine a captured clone warrior from the Aerospace Extermination Squadron.

===Issue 5===
"HE'S BACK! Optimus Prime, right? Well... maybe. But then again... maybe not! Blaster's desperate bid to free the enslaved
Autobots lies in ruins, his and his entire team's lives are Megatron's to take at his will. But in their darkest hour, a hero returns to the fray, a force too powerful to be contained even by death's dark dominion. Prepare to be shocked senseless all over again!"

* Cover: [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] held at gunpoint by [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]].
* Page 1: Shockwave's lab, with a studied Clone Trooper over a deactivated [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]].
* Page 2: Two deactivated clone troopers lying in a heavily damaged lab. Also, small, dead Piranhacons litter the floor amidst the shattered remains of the tank Megatron used to torture Starscream in. Starscream himself is lying there alive but in a great deal of pain, curled into a fetal position.
* Page 5: Blaster fights against Clone Troopers and Megatron, using sound attacks and his [[electro-scrambler]].

===Issue 6===
"Last Stand! Finally... the battle you've been waiting for! Optimus Prime returns to take on his archenemy Megatron. But is Prime the 'bot he was? Scarred mentally and physically by his nightmarish exile, Prime plainly may not be up to the job! But if he can't beat Megatron and stop the rise of his second-generation clone army ... who can?"

* Cover: [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] battling [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], as [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] watches in the background.

==''Generation One''==
Several covers of ''[[Generation One (Dreamwave comic)|Generation One]]'' were distributed to comic retailers in solicitations. Pages from the unreleased issue 11 were published in the fourth issue of ''The Comic Book Digest'' from [http://lamppostpubs.com Lamp Post Publications]. Additional pages leaked onto the internet revealed a great number of [[Exosuit]]s. In all likelihood, these are connected to [[Project Centurion]] mentioned in "[[The Route of All Evil]]".

[[Chris Sarracini]] and [[Guido Guidi]] were to take over from #12. [http://seibertron.com/comics/view.php?comic_id=748]

===Issue 11===
[[Image:G1Dreamwaveongoing11.jpg|right|150px|thumb|We blame Dreamwave's fall on YOU!]]
"Because YOU demanded it: The return of the Dinobots! The hot-tempered cavalier Hot Rod finds himself in over his head when a mysterious group of Transformers-like warriors interferes with a standard transfer mission. What are these mysterious agents truly after, and what hope do Hot Rod and his team have of stopping them? Featuring the return of the fan-favorite Dinobots, the first-ever comic book debut of some of Generation One's most desirable characters, and much, much more!" [http://seibertron.com/comics/view.php?comic_id=746]

* Cover: Several female robots, lookin' deadly as [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]]'s hand reaches up to them.
* Page 1: Hot Rod looking up at a deactivated [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] being held in a repair chamber.
* Page 2: Hot Rod passing by [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] and [[Gnaw]] and looking out of a window.
* Page 3: Presumably due to a printing error, has the same artwork from page 2
* Page 4: [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] looks out a window towards Cybertron shrinking in the distance, as she, [[Kup (G1)|Kup]], [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], and the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] travel on their way to Cybertron's moon.
* Page 5: Hot Rod, Wheelie, and Gnaw see a [[Female Autobots|female robot]] teleport into the facility.
* Page 6: Hot Rod attacks the female robot, but she delivers a knee to his chest. Wheelie and Gnaw hide.
* Page 7: The female robot ducks a punch from Hot Rod. She deactivates Hot Rod before he can sound the alarm (at a Transformerscon 2005 guest panel, it was mentioned by the writers that the female robots were to be skilled martial artists). She sends a communication back to [[Quintessa]]
* Page 8: More females teleport into the facility. Gnaw transforms to fight them off, but like Hot Rod, he's quickly disabled.

===Issue 12===
[[Image:G1 ongoing 12a.jpg|thumb|right|150px]]
"This is it: the return of the most popular Transformer of all time! Yes, the indomitable Optimus Prime is finally back, ready to chew Energon and kick bumper-and he's all outta Energon! But the question is: where is he? Find out in this thrill-packed anniversary issue, as the greatest Autobots leader ever faces off against the ravenous Sharkticons and their cruel masters, the Quintessons! Don't miss this special birthday issue, a perfect jumping-on point featuring Optimus Prime himself ushering in an all-new era of Transformers greatness. The countdown to 2005 begins now!"

* Cover: Optimus Prime holding the body of [[Elita One]] in a manner reminiscent of [http://www.comics.org/details.lasso?id=34632 ''The Uncanny X-Men'' #136] and [http://www.comics.org/details.lasso?id=40485 ''Crisis On Infinite Earths'' #7]. There was also going to be a variant cover featuring a drawing of Optimus Prime by [[Pat Lee]]. Ideally, the issue would have been released during December, which Dreamwave was calling their "Optimus Prime Month".

===Issue 13===
"2005 is here - and the battle for the universe begins! Created by the sinister Unicron, the lone Cyclonus has been dispatched to search the galaxy for the missing Alpha herald, Scourge. But when his mission leads him to a top-secret storage facility on Earth, will Cyclonus find the end of his quest or the business end of several high-caliber EDC-issued blasters? This initial arc - "Detection" kicks off the biggest, baddest Generation One storyline ever! Get in on the ground floor for a front-row seat to the beginning - of the apocalypse!"

* Cover: [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] holding the head of [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]]

===Issue 14===
"The humans fight back as the “Contact” arc continues! Recovering from Cyclonus’ violent assault on their facilities, the EDC tries to equalize the odds by activating its top secret defense plan—Project Centurion! Suspecting something sinister, Marissa begins to explore the real motives behind the EDC’s newest operation. Fearing the worst, the recently revived Autobot leader Optimus Prime rallies his troops on both Earth and Cybertron for the dark future looming on the horizon."

===Generation One 2004 Datatracks Annual===
This low-priced one shot was to be written by James McDonough and Adam Patyk, with art by Joe Ng and Don Figueroa.

"As Generation One’s 20th anniversary celebration comes to a close, Dreamwave pulls out all the stops to reveal the all-new 2004 Datatracks, which boasts an original short story featuring the one and only Optimus Prime fighting alongside his brother, Ultra Magnus! Not only that, but fans can also expect brand-new expanded MTMTE entries for the female Autobots, Sunstorm, and a few more surprises! This exciting one-shot annual is the perfect way to cap off “Optimus Prime Month,” while kicking 2005 into overdrive! This comic is priced to move at only $1.95 — so don’t miss out!"

* Cover: Optimus Prime and a dearmored [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] stand back to back, with images of Autobots, Decepticons, Quintessons and humans displayed behind them.

==''Beast Wars''==
Although heavily advertised, no issues of ''[[Beast Wars (comic)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Shell Game (Dreamwave)|''Shell Game'']] saw print. Scans found on the internet show it would have had strong similarities to the ''[[The Gathering|Beast Wars: The Gathering]]'' by the same creative team, and Simon Furman's [http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2007/12/24/xmas-wrap/ original #1 script] confirms that much of mini-series was recycled into ''Gathering''. A key difference was that the TV cast were to be involved. In addition, this Beast Wars would have tied in with the Ongoing G1 series.

The solicitation for #2 reveals there would be a flashback to "just after the end of the Great War on Cybertron... and witness the trial of Megatron!The verdict and judgment that follow set in motion a truly terrifying chain of events...". [http://seibertron.com/comics/view.php?comic_id=785] The cover showed the Beast Wars Megatron on trial, so that's probably the Megatron they meant.

At Transformerscon 2004, Pat Lee also expressed an interest in possibly doing a complete series of [[More Than Meets The Eye (G1)|More Than Meets The Eye]] profile books for ''Beast Wars'', including all non-show characters. As you can imagine, this never happened, but again, was an idea [[Beast Wars Sourcebook|eventually implemented]] by IDW.

==''Transformers/G.I. Joe: Divided Front''==
Dreamwave's second crossover, ''[[Transformers/G.I. Joe: Divided Front]]'' managed to have one issue released before the company folded. Adam Patyk and James McDonough were scheduled to write issues 2-5, while Chris Sarracini was slated to write issue 6. Pat Lee was to draw all of the remaining issues.

===Issue 2===
"The secrets of G.I. JOE and COBRA'S past are revealed as the greatest arms race in history intensifies, blazing a path
across the world. Desperate for an equalizer, the JOES raid a top-secret COBRA bunker located in the Everglades. But when COBRA'S newly hired DREADNOK biker gang intervenes, will the JOES be too late to gain the advantage and-more importantly-save their Autobot allies?!

* Cover: [[Zarana]], the [[Dreadnoks]], and a deactivated [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]]

===Issue 3===
"FAN-FAVE FIREFLY DEBUTS! Snake Eyes is a hard ninja to kill...which is why COBRA Commander has called in one of his biggest guns to do the job: the assassin Firefly! What is the history behind this COBRA’S rivalry with Snake Eyes? And can the Joes’ ninja overcome this deadly saboteur in time to help his teammates retrieve the stolen Transformer technology from COBRA’S secret Arctic base? It’s chaos on the ice as the Autobots face off against Destro’s deadly COBRA/Decepticon hybrid
warriors, with Starscream waiting to pick up the pieces!"

* Cover: [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] under attack from a pair of jets, and [[Snake-Eyes]] facing off against [[Firefly]]

===Issue 4===
"AUTOBOT vs. AUTOBOT! It’s a robot riot as the new Cold War over the Transformers really starts to heat up! The G.I. Joes and their Autobot allies try to reconcile their opposing views and unite against COBRA...but can they? They’re not the only ones whose tempers are flaring, as members of COBRA prepare to foil their increasingly deranged leader’s top-secret project…if the mutineers can make it past Firefly and the elite Crimson Guard, that is!"

* Cover: Ironhide fights against [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], and [[Shipwreck]] is there too.

===Issue 5===
"What is the terrible secret buried beneath Cobra Island? Whatever it is, Starscream and Soundwave want it bad...bad enough to destroy Cobra Commander if he doesn’t give it to them! Flint and the Autobots must prepare an all-out assault of the island themselves to prevent the villains’ evil plans, but can the G.I. Joes count on Snake Eyes to help them...or will his vendetta against Firefly doom them all?"

* Cover: [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] and [[Cobra Commander]] stand over a fallen Shipwreck.

===Issue 6===
"COBRA’s plans for domination are in full effect and, thanks to Destro, the Autobots and the Joes are now public enemy #1! Even so, will our heroes be able to thwart Destro’s plans? Maybe...but you won’t believe who going to help them out. The ultimate retro crossover is about to go out with a bang!"

[[Category:Dreamwave issues]]
[[Category:Things that don't exist]]

Levitacus

2009-11-15T00:17:52Z

69.14.142.90:

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:''Levitacus is an Autobot in the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Levitacus from energon 21.jpg|right|250px|thumb|He voted "Yes" on Prop 8. Also, not so fond of shellfish.]]
'''Levitacus''' is a member of the [[Autobot High Council]], usually the one who speaks out the opinion of the Council.

==Fiction==
===Dreamwave comic continuity===
====''Energon''====
After [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] proposed heightened awareness and security against a possible war, Levitacus disagreed, stating that their [[Energon (fuel)|energon]] reserves were too low and would be better suited for altruistic purposes. He also noted that they should let "sleeping dogs lie" while the Autobots and Decepticons were still undergoing integration. {{storylink|This Evil Reborn|This Evil Reborn}} After his vision of [[Unicron]] and [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]], Optimus returned to the Council, imploring them to act now against Unicron and his [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcons]]. Levitacus refused, citing the lack of evidence. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath|What Lies Beneath}}

In the wake of [[Rhinox (Armada)|Rhinox]], [[Airazor (Armada)|Airazor]], [[Cheetor (Armada)|Cheetor]], and [[Terrorsaur (Armada)|Terrorsaur]]'s attack on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Levitacus informed Optimus that a space bridge portal was ready and that the Council was now aware of the Chaos Bringer. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath, Part Two|What Lies Beneath, Part Two}} As Optimus entered the portal, Levitacus told him that all of their hopes were with him. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath, Part Three|What Lies Beneath, Part Three}}

[[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] went to the Council this time, asking for more defense on [[Earth]]. Levitacus at first denied this request, saying that more allocation of resources would leave [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] more defenseless. Upon urging by [[Avalon]], Levitacus reconsidered his position. {{storylink|Multiplicity|Multiplicity}}

{{note|Due to the bankruptcy of [[Dreamwave Productions]], the outcome of this story is unknown.}}

==Notes==
* Although never seen in the published comics, Levitacus's Cybertronian alternate mode was designed by artist [[Alex Milne]] for the never-released Energon ''More Than Meets The Eye'' comic series by Dreamwave Productions. <ref>http://s65.photobucket.com/albums/h214/Scaleface/Energon%20MTMTE/?action=view&current=mtmte-leviticus.jpg</ref>

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[[Category:Comic-only characters]]
[[Category:Energon characters]]

User talk:Derik

2009-09-07T21:43:04Z

69.14.142.90: /* 2009 */

=Archive=
My complete user talk history (including archived years) is viewable at: [[User talk:Derik/Archive]].
=[[User_Talk:Derik/2006|2006]] (Archived)=
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* Walky: "Storylinks shouldn't float!"
* Continuity range box (proposal)
* Explicit continuity drilldown (proposal)
* Passive-aggressive edit memos are not good communication
* [[User:Monzo|Monzo]] own the the G2 annual, but hasn't scanned it.
* Derik confirms he's [http://www.grnrngr.com/essay1.html this guy].
}}

=[[User_Talk:Derik/2007|2007]] (Archived)=
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* [[User:Rotty]] demands I be banned because i voted for a different wikia in a poll for a weekly feature.
* Don't post spoielrs from novels
*[[User:Crockalley]] calls my userpic 'the cutest catboy he's ever seen.'
* Screed at people in a series of edit memos is impolite.
*[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Image:EDC_Zodiac.jpg Autotrooper divisions]
* Derik should remember that is it not other users jobs to fix his opinionated edits.
* Descriptive filenames are better.
}}
=[[User_Talk:Derik/2008|2008]] (Archived)=
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*Don't put templates in categories
*Mosaics are not canon
*Undermining the Wikia adblock.
*''Archive is incomplete due to the [[Project:Bookworm Crash|Bookworm Crash]].''
}}

=2009=

==Post restoration Wikia link clean up==
I recall you telling us last year about something you did that would remove all 250,000-odd links that wikia inserted into every page and every revision of every page. Would you be able to do the same again after we've restored our articles? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:00, 18 March 2009 (EDT)
:I made alterations to the ''import'' script, so they never even ''got'' to our database. They're ''in'' now, they need to be edited out one by one.
:...I'll look at maybe setting up an edit script. 27,000+ individual edits in history. JOY. :p
::Oh, for God's Sake :( So it needs to be done manually? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:30, 18 March 2009 (EDT)
:::After I saw this (there's really no way to get them out the history?), I looked to see if [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser|AutoWikiBrowser]] could be used to start zapping the Wikia links - no dice, apparently http://tfwiki.net/w2/api.php is out-of-line with http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php and [[wikipedia:Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/User_manual|it needs to be the same]]. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 10:59, 18 March 2009 (EDT)

Uhhh... I don't have a webcomic. And my name's not Tim.

:Don't think too hard about it. I've been calling one of our admins Doug for a year and he never bothered to correct me. (His name is Alan... I think.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:42, 23 March 2009 (EDT)

== The Franchise Navigation Templates ==

I figure that as long as I'm going through everything, I might as well update all the templates to the new look, right?

Question, though: Did I assume right that the plain links above the navigation templates are supposed to be links to the continuity families? (Like, it says "Generation 1" above the Generation 1 template, and "Live action film series" above the 2K7 and ROTF ones.) That stumped me a little when I got to the Headmasters template. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:34, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
:They are inconsistent.
:The nav above the 2007 movie (pre-crash) should be "ready," in terms of HTML. IIRC The CSS for the new design was recovered. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:01, 24 March 2009 (EDT)
::Well, I already updated the 2K7, ROTF, and G1 navs based on the cache files that used those templates. I just figured that I might as well update the other franchise headers to use the same format while I was at it (I hate pink, what can I say?) but was stumped over how to translate that one bit of the new template. That line in the G1 and movie templates ends up being readable as a continuity family link, so I was wondering if you meant it that way, so I know how to adapt it to other franchises. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 06:43, 24 March 2009 (EDT)

== A FYI ==

http://www.emopanda.com/cleanupbot/ - linked from [[:Category:Cleanup by month]] - needs to be updated to fix ''our'' cleanup count, rather than The Other Place's. [Plus, I suspect it may overwrite the category on the page, so please make sure it leaves it in [[:Category:Wiki cleanup]]. Although I half more than half a mind to just move the subcats from C:CbM to C:WC and save a redundant layer...] - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 15:58, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
:I don't think it actually updates their account either, it hadn't worked since the Monaco upgrade.
:Hrm... you did just give me an idea though!

And a question: Is it safe to put <nowiki>{{speedy}}</nowiki> on the twelve month templates at the start of [[:Category:Real-world_events_by_day]]? They don't APPEAR to be used, but I'd like to double-check that [[Template:Cal-date]] doesn't use them in any way first. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 16:55, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
:Nope! They're used for navigation! Clicking on a month in the date nav brings you to the 12-month calendar, because [[July]] redirect to [[Calendar]]. But clicking the "NEXT-MONTH" button takes you to [[Template:August]], which is ''just'' the month of August, unlike [[August]], which is the full 366 day calendar.
:The idea being... if you click next-month, you're looking for a near-ish date. And if you click on the month itself, you're looking to navigate within the full year. Separating the two display options out with templates actually does (or at least ''should'') make quickly navigating dates much easier, more "natural" to how people are likely to search dates. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:42, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
::Well, could you do something to stop them appearing on [[Special:Unusedtemplates]], if they're actually necessary, then?
::It seems a hellava bodge to be using a template as, in effect, a page - can't you just change the links from (e.g.) <nowiki>[[July]] to [[Calendar|July]]</nowiki> and put the "Templates" in the namespace where they belong? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 19:10, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
:::I'll look into it. Part of the reason it's set up like this is simply-- this is the way ti was set up before the crash. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:16, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
::::Admittedly I was thinking before the crash that if the Month links on the day pages are getting redirected to the calendar, they should, well, just actually link directly to the calendar. And the months should be actual pages, yes.
::::In fact, is it possible to have noinclude on a regular page? Because then we could have each of the months be a proper regular page with all of the day pages transcluded into it in noinclude tags, then have that page be transcluded where it needs to be in order to show just the calendar part.
::::(Um. When we have time to actually work on this sort of thing, I mean.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:32, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
:::::This thing you describe is possible... I will think about it, it'd require some re-jiggering, and at least 320 edits. (Every day's page would have to have its code changed.)
:::::Tell you what though-- I ''do'' know a way to get the month templates off the Unused templates page! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:01, 28 March 2009 (EDT)

== Hey ==

Since you worked pretty hard on figuring out [[Staff Sergeant Tracy]]'s name , [[Talk:United States Air Force|help me with this]] :) --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:33, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

== Bot request ==

I have a Deceptitran request. Could links to "Revelation (comic issue)" please move to "Revelation (War and Peace)" and "Revelation (Dreamwave issue)" to "Revelation (The Dark Ages)"? Thanks! - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:23, 13 April 2009 (EDT)

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|name= - Starfield 21:23, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
|comment=I have a Deceptitran request. Could links to "Revelation (comic issue)" please move to "Revelation (War and Peace)" and "Revelation (Dreamwave issue)" to "Revelation (The Dark Ages)"? Thanks! - Starfield 21:23, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
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|name= - Starfield 21:23, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
|comment=I have a Deceptitran request. Could links to "Revelation (comic issue)" please move to "Revelation (War and Peace)" and "Revelation (Dreamwave issue)" to "Revelation (The Dark Ages)"? Thanks! - Starfield 21:23, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
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== The LongArm of the bot... ==

http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Cybertron_Elite_Guard&diff=271888&oldid=267284

Huh? Even besides the fact that it [[Talk:Shockwave (Animated)#Capital A|seems to have been decided]] that the TransWarped credit was an aberration and the page has been reverted to small-a mode... wouldn't it have made more sense to change the link to [[Shockwave (Animated)]] in the first place? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 23:11, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
:The bot is automated to detect moves and change links accordingly. Since somebody moved [[Longarm Prime|Longarm Prime]] to [[Longarm Prime|LongArm Prime]] (despite the fact that it was a redirect), the bot acted accordingly. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:43, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
::No, I add them manually. (I have it scrap the move log for recent moves and choose which ones to add to the queue.)
::I just assumed someone knew what they were doign when they moved LongArm. Not correct? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:56, 15 April 2009 (EDT)

== In search of a less stupid cleanup tag. ==

A quandary. I'd ''like'' to make the cleanup tag template automatically datestamp if you neglect to specify one, via currentmonthname and currentyear variables, so it ends up in the proper category. However... if I subst those in the template itself, it will be forever April 2009. If I leave them variables, the date the tag was applied will not be preserved. Thoughts?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:05, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
:This thing you say... I do not believe it is possible. The problem is that {{currentday}} will always be updated when the page re-caches. You need the page editor to either enter <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki> or a <nowiki>subst:</nowiki> command for this sort of "expansion" to happen.
:The only solution I've ever thought of would be to have an off-site 'bot monitor pages in a category "Pages with undated..." and make edits to those pages, adding the dates to the templates. The results wouldn't be perfect, but they'd be more-or-less right.
:But that seems like a LOT of work for the result. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:56, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
::I think I may have found the trick:
:::''A less versatile method for multilevel substitution is with a pair of includeonly tags: they can be used to prevent substitution on the page itself, while not having any effect when transcluding the page. Substitution is prevented by having the template call inside these tags. Substitution is also prevented by having one or both tags anywhere in the template call except inside a parameter definition. Thus the tag(s) can be before, inside, or after "subst:", or inside or after the template name. The positions of the two tags only influence the rendering of the template page itself. If the closing tag is put immediately after the opening tag the full wikitext is rendered, e.g.
::::<nowiki>{{<includeonly></includeonly>subst:tc}}</nowiki> is shown as {{<includeonly></includeonly>subst:tc}}''
:::[[wikipedia:Help:Substitution#Includeonly]]
::Plausible?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:21, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
:::I've read this documentation before, and it makes my head hurt.
:::How does that help us? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:27, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
::::On further examination, it doesn't unless the template containing those includeonly tags is ''also'' substituted. Which leaves us no closer. Drat. I shall delve deeper into the nature of transclusion and substitution and pray I don't inadvertently become a cultist of Azathoth.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:30, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
:::::The problem is you want to substitute on the page itself-- you want a 'flattened' date. So that means the editor needs to put in the "subst:." (Or more simply, a <nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki>,) it can't be optionally assigned by the template if non-present, because that would require the template reaching 'up' into the page it's included on to make changes to the base text. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:39, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
We could, I suppose, create something to the effect of <nowiki>{{lazycleanuptag}}</nowiki> which forces substitution and only outputs <nowiki>{{cleanup|{{subst:currentmonthname}} {{subst:currentyear}}|}}</nowiki> ...but that seems like going 'round Robin Hood's barn to get there.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:35, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
:And of course misses the point entirely of plunking a date tag in when people forget to do so, the original point of this exercise. It is for the most part ''admitting defeat''.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:36, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
::See, I didn't think that was how that worked. See if you can make that work, with exactly that substitution. If it does we at least have a starting point. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:43, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
:::It does work. In that if I use the includeonly trick on the subst bits in that, and ''also'' subst the shell template itself, said template would then leave in the article text <nowiki>{{cleanup|April 2009}}</nowiki>, being a multi-level substitution as described in the mediawiki help. But, as I said above, it ''only'' works if the template using the includeonly trick is also substituted. The date variables get rendered flat, and the lazy cleanup template also gets reduced to standard wiki text, but any templates it calls aren't substituted, and thus still render as genuine transclusions.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:50, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
::::The problem with that approach being that [[wikipedia:Help:Substitution#Forced_substitution|forced substitution]] is pretty much nonexistent, beyond a simple nag message.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:56, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

==Bot request for image tagging==
I've noticed that all of the images that haven't had their descriptions restored have the text "Importing image file" instead. Can we have Deceptitran replace all instances of that phrase in the image namespace with <nowiki>"{{bookworm|5}}"</nowiki>? I think that'll make that part of the recovery process go much quicker. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 18:09, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
:Link me an example file! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:00, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
::[[:Image:Stargatebattles_starscream_and_his_ghost.jpg|Perfect example]]. Oh, and I was thinking about it, and it's probably best to replace the phrase with <nowiki>"{{bookworm|5|Description and copyright info}}"</nowiki> just to make sure it's clear. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 20:25, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

==BW Neo Models ==
So, I'm looking for future projects, and BW II / BW Neo seem like likely candidates. A while back, while we were debating, you posted scans of Deadend http://www.emopanda.com/tmp/deadend_model.jpg that showed several angles. Do you still have access to that book, and would you be willing/able to make some high quality scans? Also, does the book cover the secondary characters like Survive, Bazooka, Bump, Hydra, Sharp Edge. Randy and Sharp Edge? --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 01:05, 2 May 2009 (EDT)

*[[Beast Wars II Encyclopedia|Beast Wars II Guidebook]]
**Big Convoy (full++)
**Longstickupass (full)
**Break (full)
**Stampy (full)
**Chorada (full)
**Heinrad (full)
**Mach Kick (full)
**Lockbuster (full)
**Randy (full-ish)
**Bump (full)
**Sharpedge (full)
**Survive (full)
**True One (fron + transformation)
**High Council (single shot)
**Magmatron ('''front and magamasaur only''', toy control art for other modes)
**Guildart (full)
**Saberback (full)
**Dead End (full)
**Sling (full)
**Archadis (robot front/back only, toy control art for beast mode)
**Hydra (single shot of robot mode only)
**Hardheaded old fart (full)
**Crazybolt (single shot of robot mode only)
**Bazooka ('''control art for all modes, no character models''')
**Vector Sigma (concept sketch)
**Yukikaze (3 views)
**Fuzzy seal things from episode 3 (front on both characters)
**Yukikaze Shuttle (multiple angles)
**Concept art of CR-chambers
**Hideos Spider Monster from episode 9 (partial model set)
**Star Upper (robot + beast, same model seen on his article now-- I colored it for that.)
**NAVI unit (3 angles + claw detail)
**Killerpunch (illo of his arm shooting only-- no proper models)
*[[Beast Wars Theatrical Special Film Book|Beast Wars II Movie Guidebook]]
**Lio Convoy (full)
**Apache (full)
**Tasmania Kid (full)
**Bighorn (full)
**Scuba/Ikard (full)
**Diver (full)
**Insectrons (Full set, but partially obscured. I have their colroed character models in another book to recover detail from...)
**Tripledacus (front only + head detail)
**Jointrons ('''low''' resolution, front and beast only)
**Artemis (several angles)
**Moon (rabbit only)
**Galbatron (full+)
**Megastrom (full)
**Starscream (full)
**BBB (full)
**Dirge (full)
**Thrust (full)
**Autorollers x4 (front, back, + 1 isometric vehicle view)
*[[Beast Wars Neo Big Encyclopaedia]] (despite the name, it is small-format)
**Majin Zarak (monster/aircraft)
**Lio Convoy (full)
**Apache (full)
**Tasmania Kid (full)
**Bighorn (full)
**Diver (full)
**Scuba/Ikard (full)
**Taco Tank (full-- with that name you'd think it belonged to the Jointrons...)
**LioJr.Skywarp/Santon/Magnaboss (full)
**Galbatron (full)
**Gigastrom (full)
**Hellscream (full)
**MaxB (full)
**Dirgegun (full)
**Thrustol (full)
**Optimus Primal (full)
**Majin Zarak (full)

That's what I have for BW-era character models...

'''Major stuff missing:''' Killerpunch, all the Seacons (I have the colored models though-- you can see them on their pages on the wiki.) Some 'sets' are less-than-complete, but might be filled out if you were able to pull lineart back out of the color models. (I have several guidebooks that include colored models-- usually partially obscured by text but potentially useful.)

I am looking for:
* BWII Manga v 2
* Car Robots encyclopedia (whatever its name is-- there was a mini-guidebook published for car that included a bunch of character models. I didn't buy it when I had the chance, which I've eternally regretted.)

...that's probably a more complete answer than you expected. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:40, 2 May 2009 (EDT)

The [[Beast Wars II Super Encyclopedia]] has ''colored'' models for all the pre-angolmois guys, including the missing Seacons. (front angles in both modes only)

The Beast Wars Neo Guidebook of Fuckwin has colored models of ''everyone''. Front angles only again.

Both of these would require some work-- even assuming it's possible to extract lineart from them, they're partially obscured by text and boxes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:56, 2 May 2009 (EDT)

:... aaaaand that is why you kick SO much ass! It looks like between the art I've already got and these guide books, there is VERY little that's missing. Thankfully, I've got Killerpunch (one of the few ancillary characters from Neo I do have). It looks like, assuming you're willing to make some scans / bring some books to Botcon for me to scan, you fill in pretty much all the gaps that I've got. Generally, I CAN extract lineart from color models when necessary, but it isn't my first choice. Looks like I'd be interested in:
::Lockbuster (full)
::Randy (full-ish)
::Bump (full)
::Sharpedge (full)
::Survive (full)
::Hydra (single shot of robot mode only)
::True One (fron + transformation)
::Vector Sigma (concept sketch)
::Fuzzy seal things from episode 3 (front on both characters)
::Concept art of CR-chambers
::Hideos Spider Monster from episode 9 (partial model set)
::Star Upper (robot + beast, same model seen on his article now-- I colored it for that.)
::Gigastrom (full)
::Optimus Primal (full)
::Majin Zarak (full)
:Plus, from [[Beast Wars II Super Encyclopedia]], colored Seacons. From Beast Wars Neo Guidebook of Fuckwin, colored Hydra and Bazooka. That would give full model sets for nearly everyone. Poor Hydra (he's so lonely) and Bazooka may be the only ones who wind up with just fronts. Ironic, since they'll be more work than the others.

:Do you have my email address? Cheers! --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 10:38, 2 May 2009 (EDT)
::Actually, I could use better shots of Guiledart's dinosaur mode too. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:24, 3 May 2009 (EDT)
:::Ads tot he list.
:::Do you need these toot-sweet, or can it take a few days? (Just determines how much cleanup work I do.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:24, 3 May 2009 (EDT)
::::Ideally I'd get it before Botcon. Thanks for the help. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 17:21, 3 May 2009 (EDT)

== The New Merge Template ==

...*dies laughing* Is all. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:20, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

== Template:Source ==

Trying to get it to match our new copyright tags, and have been mostly successful. Two problems. Trying to flatten out the if statements has met with less than perfect results, and the H2 tag there has forced me to use a bit of a kludge to prevent the TOC from being rendered IN the template. Hoping to get it in the same nice canary yellow and orange color scheme the original box you made for original sources used. Could you have a gander at it?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:28, 12 May 2009 (EDT)

== Revenge of the Fallen books. ==

I can't say as I really think [[Talk:I Am Optimus Prime (Robot Heroes)|this]] is one.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:40, 19 May 2009 (EDT)

== mfghrthr54tjtyj6t7kj67k5 ==

Seriously, stop bunging a Merge with Spotlight: Sixshot template on random pages, along with the other drunken stuff you've been doing tonight like the "Quatuar" page. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 22:24, 27 May 2009 (EDT)
:I'm practicing for my drunken rampage during Botcon. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:36, 27 May 2009 (EDT)

== Earthforce/US timeline ==

:''Note: this is not speculation, the UK Letters page confirm the US timeline is a result o the Timestorm.''
Which issue? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 20:18, 28 May 2009 (EDT)
:I lost my notes on the UK Letters Page when my laptop was stolen-- ask Jim Sorrenson, he's researched the letters pages more recently than I. They say it at least twice. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:40, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

== Bot work ==
Task: Scour the Wiki for all the myriard variant spellings of "Toys"R"Us", change them all to Toys"R"Us (no reversed "R", no spaces, standard quotation marks), make the first mention a Wiki link. Leave the [[Toys"R"Us]] page itself alone, especially the introductory paragraph.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 16:41, 10 June 2009 (EDT)

Can your bot handle creating links as well as changing them? I was thinking it'd be nice to go through and link up all dates that aren't linked already. Would promote the date pages and make it easier to catch everything that belongs on each date page. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:54, 12 June 2009 (EDT)
:There is a concern that blindly linking to anything that looks like a date will cause more trouble than it solves. What if the text is part of a text link? For example, in disambigs, it's quite common to say ''in <nowiki>[[Transformers (2007)|the 2007 movie]]</nowiki> portion of the...''
:There is no simple way to prevent it from making a mess of those. :( -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:58, 13 June 2009 (EDT)
::Not the years, the months and days. Like "January 1", "May 15", "August 8", etc. I guess those could show up in links too, but I think it'd be a much rarer occurrance. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 23:08, 13 June 2009 (EDT)
::...potentially. I'll look into it if Scout ever fixes the pagelisting utility I use to generate a master list. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:06, 14 June 2009 (EDT)

==Bot Request ==
I was trying to manually swap out [[Beast (planet)|Beest]] with [[Beast (planet) | Beast]] but the wiki delays have got me down. Any chance you can bot it? --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:10, 7 July 2009 (EDT)
:Sure. When did the spelling change though? I thought Dreamwave's spelling ruled. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:13, 7 July 2009 (EDT)
::Actually, we may well have gotten them all. Spelling change was by (small) consensus, based on Metrodome and The Ark using the traditional spelling.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 17:23, 7 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Yeah, I'm not really sure why we moved it either. We have a name that doesn't require a parenthetical, which was used in English-language media. It can rightly be considered the English name of the planet. I don't know what moving it to a name that needs a parenthetical gains us.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:24, 7 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Avoiding a disambiguation parenthetical shouldn't be a reason for deciding the name of an article-- it leads to stupidity like "All Spark."
::::But yeah... I get Jim's point of "two English-language sources for Beast," but they're both out-fiction sources that're just aping the Japanese name. (Quality of sources vs. quantity, I guess.) I prefer Dreamwave's spelling both because it has primacy and because it's less dumb (I'm not fond of Japan's dead-literal names) without really being a 'renaming.' The fact it removes the need for disambiguation is a plus, but not an active factor.
::::And it's worth pointing out that "Beast (G1)" isn't a very good parenthetical for the Dinobot combiner when Beest has appeared in Dreamwave's Transformers Generation 1 comics.
::::I don't actually care enough to ''contribute'' to that debate, but feel cree to carbon-copy my comments if they seem helpful. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:16, 7 July 2009 (EDT)

==The Void==
Seriously, how do you undo that transparency? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 01:42, 19 July 2009 (EDT)
:<tt>Opacity:.5;</tt> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:49, 19 July 2009 (EDT)
::I have no idea where that setting is or how you're changing it without it registering in the History, but I do appreciate that you've changed it back. Thank you. (As the one who came up with the gag of the page in the first place, I'm a little defensive of it.) - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 22:12, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
:::It's not on the page-- it's in the sitewide CSS. I have a [http://emopanda.com/tmp/tfwiki_tmp_global.css rapid-development CSS file] loaded off ''my'' web-space as an include in TFWiki's <tt>common.css</tt> file. The ideas is that since only admins can edit <tt>common.css</tt> and since I do a fair amount of our template work... I have a file that can be easily edited, so you can make 50-60 changes while testing/developing template code.
:::In ''theory'' you could do this by yourself and then tell people to edit their personal .css file so they could see the changes... but in ''practice'' the result is that only 5 people would ever bother, even for major proposed changes-- and twice that number would look at a proposed template and say "it looks messed up" because they were lacking the .css for 'em.
:::(When Rosh and Jessye were developing styles for Monacobook and the main page, we just threw their code into the temp file so everyone could see it and respond easily.)
:::If something's ''really'' wild and out there, it can be tested using [[User:Derik/kired_tools|Kired Tools]], and is only visible to users who've installed the tools... but KT came later-- and anyway for 90% of stuff the rapid-development file is better-suited.
:::The idea is that ''eventually'' CSS changes, once they're completely solid, will migrate to the central common.css file. In practice... some of this code has been there for more than a year-- but I don't think I've gone more than 3 days ''without'' making some sort of edit to the file-- either for a new template or to accommodate a minor template tweak someone else wanted. The "button" code for example (used for the previous/next buttons) has been tweaked slightly with every new template that uses it. (Eventually I'll probably gut it and we'll get a generalized version made which can migrate to <tt>common.css</tt>.)
:::Oh-- and to answer your question re: the void specifically... you can set styles for ''specific pages''. The Void was an extreme example. A much simpler one: our main page doesn't display the redundant "Main Page" title which was competing with the acctual ''site title'' (TFWiki.net) in the visual hierarchy.
:::So yeah... that's basically it. If you require quick CSS changes or a test you can bug me. I, in turn, have to be careful and play nice with the demi-godlike power entrusted in me, or I have it taken away. (I've been warned a couple times about the limits of what I should and shouldn't do.) Net-net, everyone benefits and TFWiki.net has some of the nicer-looking templates out there.
:::...this is long. I hope it answers your questions. The seedy underbelly of TFWiki.net developers, with off-site archives and changes that don't show up in history! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:20, 22 July 2009 (EDT)

::::Oh and before I forgety-- I suggest installing [http://getfirebug.com/ Firebug]. It's awesome-- and it woudl have todl you right away 'where' the code that was baffling you on the void page was coming from. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:28, 22 July 2009 (EDT)

== Bot Oddities ==

I've noticed during the SG switch that sometimes, while fixing one link, the bot will at the same time revert a previously changed link ''back'' for some reason. Check out [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Talk%3AMain_Page&diff=345155&oldid=345142 this diff], for instance. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:32, 6 August 2009 (EDT)
:The two edits were made to the same page 4 seconds apart. Probably one was made by the 1-a-minute crontab script and the other was made by the speed-editor (which runs in-browser) and they tripped over one another's feet. (I'll turn off the 1-a-minute editor. The in-browser speed editor should force all the edits to execute in sequence instead of parallel.)
:You say 'sometimes,' have you seen it anywhere else? Normally that would only happen once in a blue moon. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:45, 6 August 2009 (EDT)
::Well, sometimes right now, at least, due to the huge volume of link changes we're running. If you go to the Recent Changes page and show the bot edits, and skim down through it, you can see various instances on a number of pages where the size difference is (0) instead of a negative multiple of 13, meaning it fixed one link but reverted another. (Or there's 2 edits, but the size diff is only -13, etc.)
::Here's just [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Shattered_Glass_%28issue%29&action=history one page as an example], you can see the instances where the size doesn't change, and they seem to match up to the quirky reverts. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:56, 6 August 2009 (EDT)
:::...great, I'm running up against caching lag then. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:28, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

:::::I think when I'm done I'll just re-up all the moved pages "Move all the links again." Only this time instead of 1,400 links, it'll find maybe 30 loose ones.
:::::Ultimately if I re-architectured the 'bot to do ''all'' the pending relinks on a given page instead of making multiple edits the problem would go away. I looked at making such a change this afternoon, but the code changes involved were too complicated. :p -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:31, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

==Faction Icons==
Derik, per [[Template_talk:Factions]], trying to swap out the Armada Unicron symbol for the Blendtron Unicron symbol ... how would I do that? --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:43, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
:That's done on [[template:factions/icons]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 11:46, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
::I can't figure out how, just from that link. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:26, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Mazenoise got it. Once the cache refreshes, the pages should reflect this.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 12:28, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
::::Thanks. (Sorry for your real estate, Derik.) --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:54, 11 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::Eh, no problem. I point out that [[User:Derik/kired tools|Kired Tools]] adds as 'purge' button @ the top of an article after the 'watch' button, which enables you to force a page to re-cache with a single click. (''Quite'' useful when making changes to templates... you don't have to wait for them to re-cache to see how the result looks.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:05, 11 August 2009 (EDT)

== Template numeracy ==

Just curious, is there a simple way to perform operations on a numeric template variable?

That is, if the template has a variable ''x'', can the template be made to spit out x+1 and x-1? And, taking it a stage further, can it be made to spit these out as a fixed number of digits (that is, if x=5, can it be made to spit out x+1 as 06 and x-1 as 04 without any further intervention?) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 17:29, 6 September 2009 (EDT)

<nowiki>{{#pad: {{#expr: 1 + 2}} |4|0}}</nowiki> ''<!-- Pad to 4 characters using "0" the result of the expression
* [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions Relevant link with more info.] (This and other useful links can be found in the last section of my userpage. You want anything called "functions." )-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:44, 6 September 2009 (EDT)

::Thanks, I managed to figure out the rest from that :) [It was just to have autogenerated back/forward links on the Marvel cover templates, given that I didn't want to edit 97 pages by hand again and I hadn't been able to figure it out originally. There's still a slight question of styling, but meh, it'll do now] - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 22:13, 6 September 2009 (EDT)

==Sun Raid==
I posted the audio of Sun Raid on my Yahoo Video page. It was among the requests. Credit to Retro Robot Radio and positive feedback would be appreciated. [http://video.yahoo.com/watch/5920762/15412501] [[Special:Contributions/69.14.142.90|69.14.142.90]] 17:32, 7 September 2009 (EDT

User:Derik

2009-09-07T21:42:19Z

69.14.142.90: Sorry, moved it to the talk page.

{{bookworm}}
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[[Image:Derik userpic.jpg|thumb|250px]]
:<tt>"Objective journalism is one of the main reasons American politics has been allowed to be so corrupt for so long. You can't be objective about Nixon." - H.S. Thompson</tt>

{{quote|Derik is a tortured genius. Sometimes he does great good, sometimes he creates articles like this.|[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]]|[[Talk:Bob (disambiguation)]]}}

{{quote|Your example is such a strawman that I'm tempted to lacquer it and burn Nicolas Cage alive inside. |Derik flirting with [[User:Jimsorenson|Jim Sorenson|]]|[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/e8220ade172423ca?hl=en&dmode=source&output=gplain The infamous Wikia site] (2008)}}

Derik talks a good game, but he's really a big softy that goes all squooshy inside at the sight of kittens or [http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v157/out_of_season/guys%20kissing/ ''Emo Boys kissing.'']

They're '''not''' just doing it for attention!

<strike>Derik can't spell woth a danm.</strike> Did you know Mozilla 2.0 has MS Word-style spell check on textarea boxes?

He can often be found late at night making long chains of minor edits to template pages. Derik doesn't do this at night to be considerate to other people- he just likes to delude himself into thinking he can do something quickly before going to bed, and then skips sleep.

Feel free to yell at him on AIM: '''ReGenesis0'''

Things '''not''' to message Derik about: ''(culled from actual conversation)
* "I just sent an e-mail to the executive producer telling him what he needs to do better."
* "Did you delete my post?"
* "I had drunken sex with another dude at a furry convention in Canada, what do I do?"

He's also apparently a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villains_in_Power_Rangers:_Wild_Force#Mut-Orgs Mut-Org], whatever the hell that is.

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==Works in Progress==
* [[User:Derik/Licensing]]
**[[User:Derik/Earthforce]] — notes on a possible rampage-subject
* [[User:Derik/Deceptitran]]
* [[User:Derik/Timeline]]
* [[User:Derik/javascript]] — Loose documentation of useful javascript functions. Both MW's, and our additions.
* [[User:Derik/kired tools]] - Derik's hacks
* [[Transformers Wiki:WikiProject Movie characters]]
* [[User:Derik/flvs]] —- Direct-access links for many online videos that will (experience tells us) eventually vanish into the aether if not downloaded.
* [[User:Derik/Glossary]] — Words that mean things...
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Seeker (body-type)

2009-09-06T22:44:17Z

69.14.142.90: /* Alternate terms */

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[[Image:Seekers.png|right|300px|thumb|Well, they keep the toy-repainting fans off the streets, at least. (Generic Seekers from, clockwise: 1) MtMtE Part 3, 2) sticker sheet, 3-6) Five Faces of Darkness)]]

The term '''Seeker''' refers to [[Decepticon]] jet troopers who all share the same [[body-type]]. That is, the Decepticons in [[Generation 1]] that looked like [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], but in different colors or with minor variations in wing and head shapes, and also the Decepticons in later franchises such as ''[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' where similar "families" of jets appear.

The word "Seeker" hovered a long time in a strange gray area between official and fan-coined terms. It seems to have originated in ''extremely'' obscure official or semi-official writing, but somehow became widely used among fans. In 2002, the term appeared in dialog from the first issue of ''[[The War Within]]'' from [[Dreamwave Productions]], [[Canonizing|making it truly official]] after years of controversy. It has subsequently appeared in many other places such as on toy packaging, books, and in other stories.

:''Japanese name:'' '''Jetron'''

==Generation 1 Seekers==
===Originals===
[[Image:MainSeekers.gif|300px|thumb|right|The original Seekers]]
In Generation 1, there were six Seekers originally given names and characterization: [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]. The first three, the season one Seekers, had animation designs done primarily by [[Shōhei Kohara]].
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===Coneheads===
[[Image:ConeheadsGenerations1.jpg|200px|thumb|right|The Coneheads.]]
The last three Generation 1 Seekers are usually designated as "[[Conehead]]" Seekers by fans for their distinctive transformation that leaves the jet nosecone pointing up. The animation models for the Conehead Seekers were designed by [[Floro Dery]].
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===Skyraiders===
[[Image:WingsofHonor-Skyraiders.jpg|right|thumb|250px|New guys, same ol' body-type.]]
The term "Skyraiders" (see [[#Alternate terms|alternate terms]]) was assigned to the prototypical Starscream-like air warriors that [[Skyquake (G1)|Skyquake]] developed at the very beginning of the war. The ranks of the Skyraiders did not seem to include any of the usual Seekers, but instead comprised other flying Decepticon characters. In addition to Skyquake himself, the Skyraiders were [[Leozack]], [[Hellbat]], [[Hooligan (G2)|Hooligan]], and [[Gaihawk]].
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===And all the rest===
[[Image:MTMTEGenerics-OilField.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Aw, not "[[When Continents Collide]]" again...]]
In the Generation 1 cartoon there were large numbers of [[generic]], unnamed Seekers in addition to the named characters. They came in a wide variety of colors, from extra duplicates of Starscream or one of the other named guys, to original and distinct looks all their own. They seem to have formed the bulk of the Decepticon forces on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], as well as among [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s initial troops on [[Earth]]. They gradually became less common, perhaps as a result of casualties... or the cartoon's production team becoming more careful, or more-likely having more "actual" Decepticons to work with as the toy line expanded. (Extra [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] units and alternate color cassettes were also used along with these Seekers, early on, to fill out the comparatively thin Decepticon ranks.)

These unsung Seekers would be recognized years later in ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' toy form as the [[Air Warrior]]s (all using the common lavender/white color scheme). Soon afterward, the [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] ''Generation One'' comic series introduced an army of similarly-colored Seeker drones.

[[Image:AirWarriors MTMtE.jpg|right|200px|thumb|You talking to me? Or him? Or the other one?]]

Around the same time, another background Seeker was also given a new life through toys and Dreamwave comics: [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. This yellow-orange Seeker was a nameless background character in the first episode of the ''Transformers'' cartoon, until [[e-Hobby]] turned him into an [[exclusive]] toy (available with an [[Autobot]] also based on a [[Hauler|first-episode cameo]]). Now [[Hasbro]] [[Sunstorm (disambiguation)|can't get enough of him]]. Another generic Seeker was given attention: [[Acid Storm]]. Like Sunstorm before him, he was based on one of the background Seekers from the original cartoon, in this case the episode "Divide and Conquer" (see below).
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Unnamed Seekers with their own distinct color schemes appear in the following episodes as noted below:

[[Image:Sunstorm Cartoon.jpg|250px|thumb|One for all, and all for one. Sunstorm and co. attack.]]
* "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]"
:In the "return to [[Iacon]]" scene on Cybertron, five to seven Seekers appear (wide shots depict a group of five, but the close-ups give us seven distinct color schemes.) The first three are (as far as colors are concerned) Skywarp, Starscream (with a deeper voice), and Thundercracker. In a following shot, we see a lavender Seeker with a flamethrower pack, a medium-blue Seeker with white trim, holding his arm gun like a rifle, a yellow/orange Seeker who would become Sunstorm... and lurking in the back, a very dark-blue Seeker with white trim barely visible, but there if you look.

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[[Image:MmteSeekers2.gif|250px|thumb|Lots of generic Seekers from this one.]]
* "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2]]" and "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3|Part 3]]"
:The mother lode of unnamed Seekers. Especially if you like variations of blue and lavender. Crowds of them appear at the start of the final battle. At least six different Seekers of various shades and decos of blue and at least or four of various shades and decos of lavender (two with black tail fins in jet mode, two with white). Also, a blue variant (seen in the picture above) missing his wings and shoulder vents appears in "Part 3". (The infamous "Lady in Purple" a piece of well known [[fanon]], for possibly being female due to weak line strength in the art also appears here)

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[[Image:DivideandCon.gif|300px|thumb|Divide and Conquer Seekers]]
* "[[Divide and Conquer]]"
: Avert your eyes! One deep blue, one eye-burning bright green, and one garishly bright yellow. This trio is often referred to by fans as "the [[Rainmakers]]" because they started an [[acid rain]] shower to irritate a group of [[Autobot|Autobots]]. The green jet in this grouping was made into the ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' [[Acid Storm]] character, whose name was initially supposed to be "Rainmaker", then "Acid Rain".

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[[Image:UltimateDoom.gif|300px|thumb|Ultimate Doom Seekers]]
* "[[The Ultimate Doom, Part 3]]"
: Two blue variants and one really nice looking pine-green Seeker appear as part of Shockwave's forces trying to prevent the rescue of [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].

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* "[[Five Faces of Darkness]]"
: One all-gray Seeker, one with [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]]'s coloration, and one with [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]'s. There's also an interesting Conehead variant. (All of which appear in the main image above.)

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[[Image:NotDirge.gif|200px|thumb|Dark Awakening Seeker]]
* "[[The Transformers: The Movie]]" & "[[Dark Awakening]]"
: One season 1-style [[:Image:DirgeseekerTFMovie.jpg|Seeker]] with Dirge's colors appears in jet mode in the attack on Autobot City in the movie, and next to the actual Dirge in the episode.

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* Puffy stickers
: A sheet of Transformer puffy stickers featured a rare generic with a Starscream-based color scheme. He is pictured above as well.

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[[Image:Returntocybertron-seeker.jpg|200px|thumb|Return to Cybertron Seeker.]]
* "[[Return to Cybertron]]"
: This relatively obscure [[Sticker Adventures]] tale gives us a brief glimpse of a Seeker with a Thundercracker/Skywarp mix; blue body, purple tailfins and wing stripes. You can't tell much more about him, given that he is A: partially obscured and B: exploding.

==UK Generation 2 comic==
An unnamed seeker with a light blue body with white face, light red helmet and thighs, and yellow cockpit cover was hanging around when Megatron boarded the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]. {{storylink|War Without End (issue)|War Without End}}

==Unicron Trilogy Seekers==
According to one minor source in ''[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'', when any Transformer converts to a jet, he is called a "seeker"<ref>''[[Transformers Armada: The Awakening]]'' DK Readers book.</ref>. But the closest specific characters to the Generation 1 Seekers are this universe's own [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]]/[[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]]/[[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]] trio. All three even used the same toy mold in their first release, although Skywarp was heavily [[Retool|retooled]] from the others (including getting an entirely new-mold [[Mini-Con]] partner). While new Decepticon-allied jet characters named [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]] and [[Ramjet (Armada)|Ramjet]] were released in ''Armada'', they each had their own unique molds. However, whereas Ramjet was simply the Mini-Con partner of [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]], Thrust was a [[bulk]] who even had a VTOL engine in jet mode, a conehead and vertically-oriented wings in robot mode. Although Thrust's original toy was green, redecos looked a bit more like his G1 incarnation.

Though only Starscream appeared in the follow-up franchise, ''[[Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'', several Seekers appeared in the final portion of the Unicron Trilogy, ''[[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]''. Starscream was back in a form heavily inspired by ''[[The War Within]]'' Starscream design (itself based on the "tetrajet" (see below)), while Thundercracker received a completely different body. A Skywarp was also released as a redeco of Thundercracker.

Further, the ''[[Legends Class|Legends of Cybertron]]'' Starscream toy, a tiny, simplified version of his main toy, was redecoed three more times: Skywarp as a giveaway at [[ComicCon 2005]], [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] as a giveaway at [[BotCon 2005]], and [[Sunstorm (LOC)|Sunstorm]] as part of the last wave of the LOC line at retail.

==Live-action movie franchise Seekers==

In the letters page for [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|Titan's tie-in comic]], the movie versions of [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]], and [[Ramjet (Movie)|Ramjet]] were first referred to as Seekers—by Starscream himself, no less. [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] was noticeably absent from Starscream's list, despite also being a jet and Thundercracker also being the name/body for a line of drones. This left it unclear what a Seeker ''is''. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|#9's Star Screams}}

The term was used twice in IDW movie comics, meaning different things—[[Seeker (Movie)|Starscream's crack unit]], and [[Seeker (ROTF)|ancient spacefaring Transformers]].

In the [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|movie sequel]], Jetfire describes himself as a Seeker. One of the early categories of Transformers, they were created to seek out stars which could be harvested for energon. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

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==Shattered Glass==
The term is taken to refer to [[Seeker (SG)|a group of evil Autobots with car alternate modes who share the same color of black]].

==Alternate terms==
The most obvious alternate name for these Transformers—and the one generally used by pack-in [[cross-sell]] catalogs—is '''[[Decepticon Planes]]'''. While usually clear enough from context, this term has the weakness that there are many Decepticon planes who are not "Seekers". Also, the term is rarely, if ever, used outside of toy-specific contexts.

[[Image:Tetrajet seekers.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Did you ever wonder why we had to run for shelter...]]
The same Transformers are also sometimes referred to as '''tetrajets''', which makes reference to their Cybertronian forms as seen in the cartoon episode "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]" and a handful of other episodes set on Cybertron. In these forms, their vehicular modes are shaped somewhat like [[wikipedia:tetrahedron|tetrahedra]], or "triangular pyramids" (that is, a pyramid with a triangular base).

The 1985 audio book [[Sun Raid]] has Megatron ordering the "Deceptiplanes" (Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker) to break off an attack.

For a time, the term '''Skyraider''' saw increasing popularity. This term originated from European ''[[Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]'' marketing. When Starscream and Ramjet were released in this line, their packaging referred to them as Skyraiders. The UK ''Generation 2'' comic also featured some character profiles (much like the old [[Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)|''Transformers Universe'']] comics), and those profiles for Starscream and Ramjet used the word as well. It is a relatively small leap to extend usage to all similarly-built Decepticons. The push to use "Skyraider" was largely founded on the idea of using an official term instead of one that was, seemingly, coined and used only by fans. When [[Simon Furman]] made use of "Seeker" in ''The War Within'', however, this primary motivation was lost. "Skyraider" was used once again to describe the Starscream-like jet warriors in the [[BotCon 2009]] set "[[Wings of Honor]]," and [[Skyquake (G1)|Skyquake]] was indicated as the body-type's developer.

The first UK cross-sell catalog referred to the group as '''strike planes'''.<ref>[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-image/toysheets/g1/uksheet01/1.jpg/image.html Catalogue image] at Transformers @ The Moon</ref>

In Japan, they received the subgroup designation of '''Jetrons'''.

==Origin of term "Seeker"==
Although the most well-known name for these Decepticons, the wide use of the term "Seeker" is still somewhat mysterious.

[[Image:Seekers ad text.jpg|left|197px|thumb|From the 1984 J.C. Penney wishbook. [[:Image:Seekers ad.jpg|See the full page here.]]]]
The only known, documented use of the term is from the 1984 J.C. Penney holiday catalog (sometimes called a "wishbook"). On the page which shows the Christmas season's available Transformers, the following entry is found: ''"Decepticon Silver Plane. Airplane with sensational F-15 styling scours the countryside searching for Autobots. When they're found, the Seekers set out to destroy them. Transforms to an exciting robot with hi-tech weapons and Decepticon logo."'' A photo of Starscream and Thundercracker is displayed.

Also on the same page in an ad for [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], he's said to send out messages to the Seekers and other Decepticons.

It has been rumored, but not demonstrated, that the term "Seeker" was used in some other early promotional materials. If so, then the term must have been handed down by [[Hasbro]] at some point. It hardly seems possible that the term could have been invented by a lowly copywriter at J.C. Penney who also just happened to decide to capitalize it. Still, though, if this catalog is the only primary source in which the term appears, it seems strange that it could have inspired the entire fandom to use the term. "Seeker" was in wide use among internet Transfans even in the early 1990s, when the fandom was just getting off its feet. Did somebody in the days of the Transformers email list have a memory of the word from when they saw this catalog at age 10 and start the trend? It is probably impossible to know at this point.

It is sometimes erroneously claimed that "Seeker" is derived from a line of dialog in the first episode of the G1 cartoon, in which these jets are referred to as "hunter-seekers". This line does not exist.

The term "[[hunter-seeker skyship|hunter-seekers]]" is used in issue 17 of the US comic, "[[The Smelting Pool!]]". However, the Decepticons it is applied to are shown only in their flight modes, which look nothing like the "Seekers" that we are familiar with. In fact, the Conehead Seekers make their first appearance in this same issue, and their Cybertronian flight modes appear very similar to their [[Earth]] jet forms (if not completely identical), and completely ''different'' from the craft which are referred to as hunter-seekers. The only real connection between the hunter-seekers we were shown and the "Seekers" is that there's more than one of them and they fly.

==Toys==
{{note|Because of the bodytype-sharing nature of the Seekers, this section includes only molds that have been decorated as two or more Seeker characters, omitting a large number of molds unique to a single character.}}
===Generation 1===
[[Image:Redeco.jpg|right|250px|thumb|The original Seekers.]]
* '''[[Decepticon Planes]]''' (1984)
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:* [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]
:* [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]
:* [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]
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* '''Decepticon Planes''' (1985)
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:* [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]]
:* [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]
:* [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]
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:The original Seeker mold was the [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes#F-15 Eagle|F-15]] ''[[Diaclone]]'' design, noted for its detailed jet mode, extremely limited robot-mode articulation, and the need to remove/add many parts during transformation.

:The mold was initially decorated as Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker. In 1985, Ramjet, Dirge and Thrust were created out of this mold, each with unique new wing toolings and color schemes. Redecorated [[retool]]s of the mold also appeared in ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' as Starscream and Ramjet, featuring new accessory [[soundbox]]es.

:This mold subsequently has been extensively reissued and redecorated; see [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream (G1) toys]] for a ridiculously long list of examples. The reissues have included the original six characters as well as the retro-Generation-1 character [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]].

* '''[[Action Master]]s''' (1990)

:This non-transforming action figure mold was sold as Starscream, and later redecorated as Thundercracker for the European market.

===''Machine Wars''===
[[Image:MWSkywarp.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Machine Wars'' Skywarp]]
* '''Basic''' (1997)

:A small [[Flipchanger|flipchanger]] mold, originally intended for ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'', was issued as Thundercracker and Skywarp.

===''Armada''===
* '''Max-Con''' (2002)

:An all-new mold sold at the $20 price point was originally issued as ''Armada'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], redecorated as ''Armada'' [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]], and retooled as ''Armada'' [[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]]. The retooled version was later issued as the new character [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] in the first ''Universe'' toy line.

===''Smallest Transforming Transformers''===
[[Image:STFStarscream toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Smallest Transforming Transformers'' Starscream]]
:The ''Smallest'' line, issued in Japan in 2003, featured a reduced-scale version of the original Generation 1 Seeker mold.

:It was issued as Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker, and retooled as Thrust.

===''Robot Masters''===
:A new Seeker mold was created for Japan's ''[[Robot Masters]]'' subline. It is based on the original toy, but redesigned at a smaller size and with enhanced articulation.

:It was issued as Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker.

===''Titanium''===
[[Image:TitaniumHeroesWWThundercracker.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Titanium'' Thundercracker]]
:A new Seeker mold created for the ''[[Titanium Series]]'' subline features a Cybertronian-based alternate mode, derived from the characters' appearance in ''[[The War Within]]'' (itself loosely based on the original pyramid jets seen in "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]".) This mold has been issued as Thundercracker, Starscream, Skywarp (a convention exclusive), Sunstorm, and Thrust (a Target Exclusive).

===''Cybertron''===
* '''Voyager''' (2006)

:This mold, based on G1 Starscream's ''[[War Within]]'' appearance, was issued as ''Armada'' Starscream, and later redecorated as Generation 1 Dirge.

* '''Deluxe''' (2006)
: Though Thundercracker wasn't the same mold as Starscream in this series, his deluxe toy was redecoed as Skywarp.

* '''Legends of Cybertron''' (2006)

:A tiny version of the Voyager mold, issued as ''Armada'' Starscream, and redecorated as ''Universe'' [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]], ''Armada'' [[Skywarp (Armada)#LOC|Skywarp]] and [[Sunstorm (LOC)|Sunstorm]], and Generation 1 [[Ramjet (G1)#Universe_.282008.29|Ramjet]] and [[Thrust (G1)#Universe_.282008.29|Thrust]]

===''Classics''===
[[Image:Henkei Thundercracker toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Thundercracker]]
* '''Deluxe''' (2006)

:An all-new mold at the $10 price point, the ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' Seeker design retains the F-15 alternate mode, but with a new transformation scheme and modern articulation.

:Like the original, this mold has been redecorated numerous times. In addition to the original six Seekers (some of which were BotCon-exclusive retools), it has also been issued as the character [[Acid Storm]]. The mold was sold in Japan under the ''Henkei! Henkei!'' line.

===''Masterpiece''===
:A larger-scaled, highly complex mold. Issued as Starscream in 2005, with later redecos as Skywarp and Thundercracker.

===Movie (2007)===
* '''Voyager'''

[[Image:Movie Voyager Starscream toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|''2007 Live Action Movie'' Starscream]]
:The mold used for the the [[Transformers (2007)|''Transformers'' live-action movie]] [[Voyager]] class [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] figure was remolded and repainted into [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] (as well as a G1 recolor of Starscream.) For the ''[[Revenge of the Fallen]]'' line of toys, the mold was recolored again as [[Skywarp (ROTF)|Skywarp]] and [[Ramjet (Movie)|Ramjet]] respectively.

* '''Fast Action Battler'''

:The [[Fast Action Battler]] version of Starscream was recolored into Ramjet in 2007.
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===''Animated''===
* '''Voyager'''

[[Image:Animated Skywarp Voyager.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Animated'' Skywarp]]
:The [[Voyager]] class [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] from [[Transformers Animated|Animated]] has been recolored into two of his [[Starscream clone|clones]] already, [[Skywarp (Animated)|Skywarp]] and [[Sunstorm (Animated)|Sunstorm]] with a release of [[Thundercracker (Animated)|Thundercracker]] on the way.

* '''Activator'''

: Starscream's [[Activator]] mold, a smaller, auto-transforming design based on the larger toy, was recolored into [[Thundercracker (Animated)|Thundercracker]] and [[Dirge (Animated)|Dirge]], also based on the clones from the cartoon.

==Merchandise==
[[Image:HoC 3H Seeker Set.jpg|right|250px|thumb|[[Starscream (G1)|I]] am [[Thundercracker (G1)|he]] as [[Skywarp (G1)|you]] are he as you are me and [[Air Warrior|we]] are all together.]]
===''Super Collection Figure''===
:A small, PVC plastic figure based on the Seekers' animation model design. It was imported from Takara in the 2002 ''Heroes of Cybertron'' line.

:It was issued as Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Sunstorm, and as a three-pack of generic light purple [[Air Warrior|Air Warriors]]. It was retooled and redecorated as Dirge and Ramjet.

===Titanium Series===
[[Image:TitaniumRM Starscream.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Stop, in the name of love...]]

: A small, non-transforming die-cast metal figurine, based upon the Generation 1 cartoon appearance of the Seekers was available decoed as either Starscream or Thundercracker.
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===''Myclone''===
[[Image:MyCloneRamjet.jpg|right|100px|thumb|''Myclone'' Ramjet]]
:A super-adorable figurine mold of Starscream was issued for this line, and redecorated as the [[Chase figure|chase figure]] Thundercracker. A Coneheads mold was also available, issued as Ramjet and chase figure Dirge, and retooled as Thrust.
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===''Robot Heroes''===
[[Image:Robot Hero Skywarp.jpg|right|120px|thumb|Robot Heroes Skywarp]]:Another super-adorable figurine of Starscream, this time launching himself into the air. Redecorated as Skywarp and Thundercracker. A Thrust mold from the same line has yet to be redecorated.
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==References==
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[[Category:Decepticon subgroups]]
[[Category:Fandom]]
[[Category:Generation 1]]
[[Category:Seekers| Seeker (body-type)]]
[[Category:Mass-produced Transformers]]

Talk:Repurposing

2009-07-12T19:14:13Z

69.14.142.90:

Curiosity: How certain are we about Shattered Glass Arcee, Bludgeon, Huffer, and Gutcruncher? They appear in Dungeons and Dinobots, but not in pictures. Descriptions seem to match the toys listed here, but is there some other confirmation about them? --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 22:06, 11 May 2009 (EDT)
: M Sipher and Trent Troop, who wrote the story, also edit this wiki. Even without their personal confirmation, I was able to determine what toys they were just from reading the text. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:30, 11 May 2009 (EDT)

Does Shockwave's personal repaint count as this?{{unsigned|69.153.131.172|18:31, 13 May 2009}}
:No, that's still the same character appearing as himself.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:34, 13 May 2009 (EDT)
::Where did SG Darkwing and Dreadwind appear in fiction? [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 14:36, 4 July 2009 (EDT)
:::In the [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 27|club magazine]] in the [[Around Cybertron]] comic strip. Also, they're called Dark''wind'' and Dreadwind in that appearance. -[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 18:48, 4 July 2009 (EDT)
::::I heard SG Landcross was in that magazine too. Is he the Stealth Mode black toy or some other deco? [[Special:Contributions/69.14.142.90|69.14.142.90]] 15:14, 12 July 2009 (EDT)