Talk:Kre-O

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== Oxford Bricks ==

Kre-O bricks are made by Oxford Bricks, notable for Chinese brick sets appearing all over eBay. $8 Bumblebee's wheel hubs even have "OXFORD" printed on them.

== Human Kreons ==

Do the humans get pages of their own? Too bad they don't have names. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:37, 20 June 2011 (EDT)

: At this point I would say 'no', since they're just generic accessories. Only one of the humans seems to be solidly based on anyone (Sam Witwicky, from Adv. Bumblebee), so there aren't names or indentifications given anywhere else. - [[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]] 12:16, 24 June 2011 (EDT)

== Which Universe for Kre-O? ==

I just spotted the Optimus and Sideswipe sets at TRU. Did we ever figure out where to put these guys? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 19:45, 10 June 2011 (EDT)

:I'm gonna put them on the table where I keep my LEGo... What? Oh, here? Very good question what with being strange Movie G1 Hybrids? Aligned or there own new thing I guess?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 19:50, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
::Since most of them have Classics/Universe heads and they come with little Sunbow-style guys, I'm in favor of G1ing them. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:27, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
:::I just can't imagine calling the big Sentinel Prime a G1 toy. I don't have a real counterproposal except maybe making pages for Kre-O-Verse versions of the characters. Hasbro doubtless considers them to be from the new Aligned Continuity That Everything Is From. Again, this is not a problem that's going to go away. -[[User:LV|LV]] 20:40, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
::::They are apparently "brick-made beings" called "Kreons" fictionally. At least according to [http://www.walmart.com/ip/Kre-O-Transformers-Optimus-Prime/16386328?findingMethod=rr Wal Mart's website]. So... - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:51, 20 June 2011 (EDT)
:::::I think we should aim for consistency. Meaning, that we shouldn't say that "Optimus is from the Movieverse, Prowl is G1, and Bumblebee is Aligned". With that in mind, it seems most logical to either put them all in Aligned or give them their own designation. Thoughts? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:58, 24 June 2011 (EDT)

:::::Seems simple to me. They're all 'Kre-O' characters, first and foremost. In each description, just mention what universe the design is based on. So, for the 'Mustang' Bumblebee, it's Advanced Kre-O Bumblebee, based on his appearance in the movie. For Kre-O Jazz, he's based on his G1 appearance, though his gray/silver is based on the movie coloration. Etc. Don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. - [[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]] 11:57, 24 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::I'm inclined to say a Kre-O continuity is the most parsimonious solution. I don' want to have some of them called G1 and some called Movie or whatever, and the fact that the Kreons at least have their own little bios gives it more weight. -[[Special:Contributions/70.62.10.14|70.62.10.14]] 12:27, 24 June 2011 (EDT)

They have their own articles here on tfwiki.net, so, too late. --[[Special:Contributions/66.82.9.92|66.82.9.92]] 15:22, 17 July 2011 (EDT)
:Those articles came about AFTER this conversation started. I mean, you did notice that you were responding to a month old thread?--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:25, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

== Missing trans-white pieces ==

Optimus Prime and Megatron have missing trans-white pieces. Anyone have this same problem? [[Special:Contributions/69.19.14.18|69.19.14.18]] 20:09, 30 December 2011 (EST)

Auto-Bop

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{{episode
|image=Auto-bop 4.jpg
|caption=Go ahead and mock '80s clothing, but in twenty years, they'll be mocking what we wear.
|series=G1toon
|ep=52
|series2=SRLFtoon
|ep2=52
|prev2=Prime Target
|next2=Starscream's Brigade
|title="Auto-Bop"
|written by=[[David Wise]]
|production code=700-51
|airdate=[[November 13]], 1985
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}

'''Tracks and Blaster uncover a hypnosis plot. A ''funky'' hypnosis plot.'''

:''Japanese title:'' ブロードキャストVSサウンドウェーブ (''Broadcast VS Soundwave'')
:''German title:'' "'''Gefährliche Hypnosekraft'''" ("Dangerous Hypnosespower")

==Synopsis==
[[Image:DancitronGang.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Just the usual Manhattan commuter crowd.]]

[[Raoul]] and his friends [[Poplock]] and [[Rocksteady]] are trying to make some spare cash, breakdancing on the sidewalks of [[New York City]]. Unfortunately, the management of the [[Dancitron]] nightclub doesn't like competition, and sends a mob after them. The trio grab their tape deck and flee, riding a wheeled dumpster until it's brought to a sudden halt. They're soon surrounded by armed thugs, but luckily [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] are in the city, and come to the trio's aid. While fighting the thugs off, Tracks is surprised to notice one of them is a man in a business suit.

Raoul introduces the rest of the [[Bop Crew]] to the two [[Autobot]]s, who say they're monitoring Decepticon activity, and now suspect there's something strange going on at the Dancitron. The pair enter the club and admire the immense sound system. Soon Blaster is dancing with an apparently blissed-out patron, while Tracks notes a number of oddly-dressed dancers—a garbage man, a middle-aged woman in a bathrobe and curlers, and a man dressed to the nines. In an upstairs booth, [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] and [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] observe the two Autobots.

[[Image:AutoBop Blaster surfing on Tracks.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Mind the paint job.]]

Meanwhile, the Bop Crew are taking an elevated subway train when it unexpectedly begins gathering speed. The driver, entering a hypnotised state, pulls the accelerator lever to full and smashes the control panel with an iron bar. Raoul pulls the emergency cord until it breaks, but the brakes are ineffective at stopping the train. Fortunately Tracks and Blaster happen to be walking nearby, and are able to halt the train. They find the sabotaged control panel, however the driver has already fled.

Tracks sends Blaster, Poplock and Rocksteady to check with [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]] while he and Raoul go to check out the Dancitron again. On the way, the pair spot an active building site—somewhat of an odd sight at 1am, and even odder when they notice the workers are more inappropriately-dressed people, including some of those previously seen at the Dancitron. They're quickly spotted by the workers, and Tracks drags the gate shut to prevent the humans from attacking them, though that doesn't stop a workman on the building itself from firing red-hot rivets at them.

[[Image:Trackscruc2.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Oooh, kinky!]]

Poplock and Rocksteady are offered free tickets into the Dancitron and eagerly accept, believing they'll be able to investigate on their own. The duo enter the club and are soon hypnotised by the music. Arriving at the club, Tracks leaves Raoul outside and encounters the boy's two friends inside. They lead him to two Decepticons, who use the club's hypnotized patrons to ensnare him and bind him to the club's sound system. Starscream reports to [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] that the building construction is on schedule.

Having consulted Teletraan I, Blaster arrives at the Dancitron to find Raoul waiting outside. The pair enter to find Tracks, with Blaster tracking an ultrasound signal. Raoul encounters his two friends and, remembering Blaster's warning about the hypnotic sound, plugs his ears with a paper napkin. They chase him, and he soon finds Tracks, but is overwhelmed by the hypnotized dancers. As he soon discovers, the hypnosis can be broken by simply getting the victim [[Water|wet]], so he triggers the club's sprinkler systems, freeing the patrons from their trance. The Bop Crew swiftly frees Tracks and they pursue Starscream.

[[Image:Auto-Bop Blaster Soundwave.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Soundwave and Blaster in a two-bot reenactment of You Got Served.]]

Blaster squares off with Soundwave at the club in a sonic "battle of the boom boxes"; the two are nearly evenly matched, until Blaster uses the club's sound system to amplify his abilities and drive Soundwave off. Tracks engineers a rain cloud which de-hypnotises the humans working at the building site. This also flushes out Starscream, who chases Tracks. The Autobot flies through the partially completed building, and the larger Decepticon damages his wing trying to follow, forcing him to retreat. Blaster arrives and uses the Dancitron speakers to bring down the building.

Tracks offers grateful thanks to Raoul and his buddies for saving his life, saying that if there's anything he can do for them... and it turns out there is. The trio lost their radio in all the chaos, and until they earn enough street cash to get a new one, poor Blaster will make an ideal replacement.
{{-}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] (5)
*[[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] (6)
*[[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]] (9)

|c2=
*[[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] (7)
*[[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] (8)
*[[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (10)

|c3=
* [[Raoul]] (1)
* [[Poplock]] (2)
* [[Rocksteady]] (3)
* [[Furg]] (4)
}}

==Quotes==
"That's what I call a riveting experience!" 
"I don't know why I hang out with you, man."
:—'''Tracks''' makes a terrible pun after being shot at by a guy with a rivet gun, and '''Raoul''' calls him out on it.

"Foo on this jive! My main machine's in trouble!"
:—'''Raoul'''

"I've been waiting a long time for this, you poor excuse for a sound system." 
"All talk...no shock."
:—'''Blaster''' and '''Soundwave''', right as their sonic duel begins.

"Yo, the dude's gone crazy!" 
"Yeah... like a fox!"
:—'''Poplock''' and '''Tracks'''.

"Heeheeheehaahaahaahaahaahaahaaaaa...."
:—'''Soundwave''', as he momentarily gets the upper hand in the sonic duel between himself and Blaster. This is one of the few times in the series that Soundwave is heard actually laughing, and coming from him in that quiet, metallic monotone of his, and in this context, it is actually <s>kinda scary</s> the most terrifying sound he ever made.

"I'd say your nightclub just went out of style."
:—'''Blaster''' to '''Soundwave''', after he won the sonic duel.

==Notes==
===Animation or technical glitches===
* In this episode, Raoul's skin color is colored slightly lighter than his last appearance in "[[Make Tracks]]".

* Despite Rocksteady breakdancing and being thrown around quite a lot, his hat always remains firmly on his head.

* Before the Bop Crew jump onto the dumpster, it's standing against a wall, but shifts out into the middle of the sidewalk as they jump onto it.

* As the thugs first start firing at Blaster, the edges of his helmet are white instead of red.

[[Image:Autobop Blaster's putting on weight.jpg|thumb|right|200px|This scene was actually filmed while Blaster was pregnant with [[Eject]] and [[Rewind]]. That's his baby bump!]]
* As Blaster aims his electro-scrambler, he looks a little... fat.

* Raoul is missing a row of studs on the left-hand side of his jacket when he claims he had things under control.

* When Raoul introduces Poplock and Rocksteady, they're both suddenly at least a head shorter than him.

* As Tracks says "Mellow kind of place", the edges of Blaster's helmet are white again.

* After that [[Stylish man|one fellow]] leaves the bar to ask Tracks a question, his hair color changes from brown to white.

* Shortly after Tracks notices the out-of-place people, there's a shot of Blaster and Tracks walking — Tracks's Autobot insignia is outlined in white instead of black, and Blaster's insignia blinks out of existence every few frames.

* In the first shot of Soundwave, his faceplate is dark grey, and his eject button is blue. Then it pans over to Starscream, who has a dark grey face.

* Every shot of the train interior shows it devoid of passengers other than the Bop Crew, but several exterior shots show panicked people climbing out the windows.

* As Blaster says he didn't spy anything unusual at the club, his forehead is red instead of white, and Tracks's wings are missing. The same two errors occur in the next shot but one.

* Blaster walks along Tracks's grappling line a couple of steps too far, and appears to be walking on the side of the train.

* The location names on the side of the train change configuration between shots.

* As Tracks stands up after they halt the train, a cel ordering error results in the windows on the rear of the train appearing on top of him.

* When the two Autobots open the door of the train to see the Bop Crew, Tracks's helmet is mostly blue instead of white.

* The voice that says "Sabotage!" doesn't sound like Tracks, though it's him speaking.

* Tracks's wings are blue when he flips them out to take off after he and Raoul leave the building site.

[[Image:Autobop Tracks holding bouncer.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Ah crap, he deflated.]]
* The bouncer appears to halve in body weight when Tracks picks him up.

* Tracks has grey wings, both when the door to the DJ booth opens and as Starscream gloats he'll never get out of the club alive.

* Soundwave's faceplate is oddly shaped and his eject button is blue as he announces he's ready for the ultra-sound transmission.

* After Tracks climbs up onto a catwalk, the shots of hypnotized club patrons approaching him from either side are the same shot, just mirrored.

* When Starscream contacts Megatron, Megatron's insignia is red instead of purple.

* When Blaster enters the club, in a couple of frames the chest portion of a female dancer's costume flashes flesh-colored.

* When Raoul attempts to free Tracks, the club patrons go into their zombie hypnotized state again. This is the same shot repeated from when the same thing happened earlier, only mirrored.

* Starscream's mouth is missing as he indignantly shouts "What?!"

* Right before Starscream jumps through the window, an exterior shot of the Dancitron (with motionless identically-dressed couples leading in a line out of it) can be seen through it, before panning swiftly to the right. As this is supposed to be an exterior window of the Dancitron itself... this shot doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

* After Tracks blasts a hole in the wall, the cels aren't properly aligned, so he appears to drive through a point in the wall slightly to the side of the hole.

* Directly after Soundwave jumps through the DJ booth window, the right-hand edge of Blaster's helmet is white, and his forehead is red.

* A moment later, the sides of Soundwave's head are blue instead of white, as he reels from Blaster's first attack.

* After Tracks causes rain to wake up the hypnotized humans at the building site, there's a shot of dozens of men fleeing it, all clad in identical outfits.

* As Soundwave laughs, the walking animation makes him appear to be moonwalking forwards.

* After Soundwave knocks Blaster into the Dancitron sound system, Blaster sits up, and the piece of debris behind him winks out of existence.

* The sides of Soundwave's head are blue again when he's sent flying from Blaster's attack with the sound system speakers, and his eject button is blue again a moment later, when he stands up in the rubble.

* During a shot of Tracks flying through a building, his wings are blue. This shot is followed by one of Starscream colored as [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]].

* When Tracks shoots the half-constructed building, the flames wash across the ground about a foot too high.

* The pattern of creases in the Bop Crew's dance mat varies depending on the angle.

* The crowd gathered to watch Poplock and Rocksteady breakdance are completely motionless, despite some of them being in running poses (and check out the oddly "Old West" dressed people by the coffee shop!)

===Continuity errors===
* Rocksteady takes off his jacket in order to breakdance, but somehow is suddenly wearing it again when Raoul announces they should beat it.

* Apparently there are still people who don't know about the Autobots, as that one fellow in the club appears to think that Tracks and Blaster are ordinary humans wearing elaborate costumes.

* Presumably the train which the Bop Crew were riding on was heading away from the Dancitron, and at high speed. Yet Tracks and Blaster just happen to be walking in exactly the right place to see it speeding along when they were in the club the last time we saw them.

* How did Poplock and Rocksteady get to the Dancitron ahead of Raoul and Tracks, who were driving? The scuffle at the building site didn't hold Tracks up ''that'' long.

* Superhuman <s>Spike</s>humans:
** The hypnotized humans are somehow able to throw Tracks off the catwalk.

===Continuity notes===
* This episode is one of three pre-movie episodes to not feature [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]].

* Gadgets and Powers:
** Blaster uses his electro-scrambler to disable the Dancitron thugs' guns.
** Tracks has a grappling hook in his vehicle mode hood, and a laser which he uses to blast a hole in the wall of the Dancitron.
** The back of Blaster's cassette cover functions as a monitor for his ultra-sound detector.

*This episode features the second of only two instances in the series in which Soundwave ''laughs''. The first was in "[[Quest for Survival]]".

* The location the Autobots are using as a base has "SPARKPLUGS" over the door, though it's different than [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]]'s shop in "Make Tracks".

===Real-world references===
* The episode in general features then-relevant (or slightly past-relevant) cultural touchstones - [[wikipedia:Breakdancing|breakdancing]] and the paranoia over [[wikipedia:Subliminal_message#Audio|subliminal messages hidden in popular music]].

* When confronted by the gang of thugs employed by Dancitron, Raoul suggests they "pull a [[Michael Jackson]]" and [[wikipedia:Beat It|beat it]].

* While fleeing from the thugs, Raoul wishes their blaster (boom box) was "THE [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]". Rocksteady retorts that Raoul "knows the Autobots like I know [[Prince]]".

*When first meeting Blaster and Tracks, Rocksteady responds to Blaster's implication of trouble-making with "Hey! We were just breakin' in front of the Dancitron (''shifts from two open palms and a shrug to one thumb extended pointing behind him'') and these '''Road Warrior''' rejects tried to bounce us out."

* The sound effect of the DJ booth door opening and closing is the door sound effect from ''Star Trek''.

===Trivia===
*When Tracks and Blaster enter Dancitron, the song playing is an instrumental version of the song performed by [[Cold Slither]] from the ''G.I. Joe'' episode of the same name.

* This episode is also noteworthy for pitting the two tape decks, Soundwave and Blaster, against each other, in an intense sonic duel. It turns out that Soundwave is actually somewhat the more powerful of the two, and Blaster had to augment his output with some nearby additional speakers to best his opponent... the cheater...

* One major plot point is that Tracks realises that there's something wrong when he notices middle-aged housewives and fancy-dressed people at the club, but as the Decepticons are hypnotising people with the music at the club, how did those people get there in the first place in order to be hypnotised?

* It is never established within the episode itself just what the Decepticons are trying to '''accomplish''' with their hypnotize-people-to-construct-a-building plot. However, according to the official [[Sunbow]] synopsis included in [[Metrodome]]'s DVD release: "... the boys and the Autobots pursue Starscream to the skyscraper—a new Decepticon headquarters being constructed by the hypnotized patrons from Dancitron." Oh. Well then.

* At one point, the show does a flashback to a warning that Blaster gave Raoul ''less than a minute earlier''. Just to make sure nobody forgot.

* When leaving the building site to head to the Dancitron, Tracks inserts Raoul into his chest ''before'' transforming to vehicle mode. Weird.

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;Laserdisc
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1995 — ''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' — Megatron Set ([[TakaraTomy|Takara]]) — Japanese audio only. 
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1999 — ''The Transformers'' — Decepticon Edition ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.
;DVD
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2001 — ''The Transformers'' — DVD Box 2 (Pioneer LDC) — Japanese audio only. 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 2 Part 2 ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]]) 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 2 Part 2: Vol. 6 (Rhino Entertainment) 
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Season 2 Part 2 ([[Metrodome]]) 
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Collection 3: Series 2.2 ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2006 — ''Transformers'' — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome) 
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment) 
[[Image:Flag of Italy.png|20px|Italy]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Volume 05: Stagione Due Parte Terza ([[Medianetwork Communication]]) — English and Italian audio. 
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Season Two: Part Two (Metrodome) 
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment) 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary "Matrix of Leadership" Collection ([[Shout! Factory]]) 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Season Two, Volume Two: 25th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory)

==External Links==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.com/cartoon-dossier/synopses/auto-bop.html Dossier at the Cybertron Chronicle]

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