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Talk:Transformers (2007 toyline)

2007-09-16T22:17:11Z

69.2.169.43: /* "Wave" numbering makes no sense */

''"the Movie line is essentially unprecedented in that it will be offering some (non Prime & Megs) characters in multiple size classes"''
: In Beast Machines, we got Cheetors (not counting Night Attack) and Jetstorms in two size classes. In Cybertron, we got both a Voyager and Supreme Starscream (though one was offered only in a two-pack over here), nevermind the large number of Legends toys we got of characters. This isn't unprecedented at all. When a line has a limited number of characters, there's going to be multiple versions. It was true in Beast Machines and it's true now. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:57, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
::And then there were the Spy-Changer-sized versions of Prime, Magnus, Scourge and X-Brawn... in RID... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:00, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

==Wave 2==
I know I've already found some Wave 2 stuff (Robot Heroes and Real Gear guys, mainly). If we know what's in Wave 2, i.e., EE or BBTS or someone has an assortment listing, is it a problem to list it? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:15, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
:The "coming soon" spoiler policy is mostly just for stuff stolen from a factory, heard from a friend of a friend who works at ILM, that leaked script which is absolutely totally the real deal I swear, or Bodycount. The club stuff we withhold out of respect; everything else is so we don't try to post information when there aren't actually reliable sources. Speculation, unreliable information, and stuff that's warrant to change really has no place here.
:I would say that things you saw on a Target shelf definitely don't fit that criteria. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 19:54, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

== Wave I+II? ==

Just a random through--someone somewhere said the current wave (Concept Bumblebee/Deluxe Arcee/Dreadwing) was actually Wave III, with Waves I and II being released simultaneously (Wave II, figure-wise, consisting of solely Wreckage and Swindle). This leaves only characters that actually appeared in the movie, which I suppose makes sense, but is there any credence to this?
[[User:69.2.169.43|69.2.169.43]] 17:43, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

:The waves are completely wrong as listed, if anyone wants to take the time and correct them this is how they were actually released:

DELUXE -

Wave 0 -
Protoform Optimus Prime,
Protoform Starscream

Wave 1 -
Bumblebee ('74 Version),
Jazz,
Barricade,
Brawl,
Wreckage,
Scorponok

Wave 2 -
Swindle,
Bonecrusher

Wave 3 -
Bumblebee ('09 Version),
Arcee,
Dreadwing

Wave 4 -
Payload,
Longarm,
Dropkick,
Final Battle Jazz,
Recon Barricade

Wave 5 -
Cliffjumper ('08 BB redeco),
Landmine,
Stockade

VOYAGER -

Wave 1 -
Starscream,
Ironhide,
Blackout,
Rachet

Wave 2 -
Optimus Prime,
Megatron

Wave 3 -
Thundercracker,
Rescue Rachet

Wave 4 -
Incinerator,
Evac,
First Strike Optimus Prime (G1 redeco)

LEADER -

Wave 1 -
Optimus Prime,
Megatron

Wave 2 -
Brawl

Wave 3 -
Night Watch Optimus Prime,
Desert Attack Brawl

You sure about that? I could have sworn I saw Bonecrusher out at the same time as the rest of the movie guys (this point is void if I+II came out at the same time, obviously.) [[User:69.2.169.43|69.2.169.43]] 00:26, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Update, OP and above poster here--I was at Wal-Mart today, and went into the Garden Center (local Wallyworld keeps new shipments/overstock of toys there--don't ask.) with the hope of finding that box of CLassics I saw a week ago and hadn't been put out yet. Instead I found a box marked "TRA MOVIE DELUXE WAVE 05 07." Upon opening it (They don't mind. Honest.) I found a Dropkick, Payload, Jazz (<s>maybe</s> probably two, didn't look quite as hard as I should have), Concept Bumblebee, Recon Barricade and two Dreadwings. This throws off the entire chart above, unless of course Hasbro refers to that Wave 0 as Wave 1. Which would make sense.

I guess what I'm trying to say is internally Hasbro called the protoform wave Wave 1, and Concept Bumblebees are shipping again. [[User:69.2.169.43|69.2.169.43]] 22:28, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

== "Wave" numbering makes no sense ==

It's inconsistent with Hasbro's internal numbering, and so is the idea of listing toys from different size classes as part of the same "wave". Essentially, the numbers in this list are randomly attributed because some toys ''happened'' to be available in stores roughly around the same time. Also, store exclusives (other than the Target Scouts) are missing completely, even though at least some of them (Target "G1" Starscream and Jazz, for example) are considerably different from their mass retail counterparts. Essentially, this list looks like it was made by someone who doesn't know how distribution works, but tries to explain why certain toys were available in stores at certain times.

Furthermore, '''yes''', Swindle and Bonecrusher are officially a different wave than the one that originally contained Jazz, Barricade etc. (even though they're still included in the Swindle/Bonecrusher wave in smaller quantities). The reason for this is that Hasbro shipped out several waves even before the official street date, and thus stores started stocking them at the same time. Officially per Hasbro, wave 1 is multiples of Protoform Prime/Starscream, wave 2 is Bumblebee/Barricade/Jazz/Brawl/Scorponok/Wreckage, and wave 3 is Swindle/Bonecrusher with some more of Bumblebee/Barricade/Jazz/Brawl.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:13, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

:So. better.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:48, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Wave 6 is wrong, I can tell you from prying open a Wave 5 box that Recon Barricade and Dropkick are with Final Battle Jazz, Longarm, and Payload.
Speaking of Payload, I figured he was based off the transforming tow truck, if not in exact form, than in spirit.
Other minor quibbles: Wave 3.5? Is that official? Ultimate Bumblebee appears to be a par of the Real Gears line, as well. Simple text size increase should fix this. [[User:69.2.169.43|69.2.169.43]] 15:44, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
:: My source is Entertainment Earth. [http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HT81057E Deluxe Wave 5], [http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HT81057F Deluxe Wave 6]. Final Battle Jazz, Longarm and Payload definitely popped up before Recon Barricade and Dropkick were first sighted, but only one or two weeks was between those shipments due to the INSANE frequency of movie wave circulation. I don't remember offhand where I saw Voyager "Wave 3.5" named as such... And checking Entertainment Earth, it now appears that Megatron debuted in [http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HT81060B2 Wave 2 revision 2] and Prime/Megs are wave 3?!? ARGH.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 08:54, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Not to seem like I'm picking bones... but perhaps we shouldn't use them as a source? Warehouse boxes with Wave 5 numbering and figures have been confirmed. I just don't see the logic in using EE numbers when we have Hasbro's (see discussion above). [[User:69.2.169.43|69.2.169.43]] 22:17, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

== Burger King ==

I noticed the BK toys are horribly misslisted. Megatron has his under "toys" (where it should be). But Starscreams is under "merchandise". All others are missing. I ''heavily'' recomend ''someone'' fix this. I would, but I don`t have a single one!--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 22:16, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

== Japanese line ==

How shall we handle Takara's version of the line? Even though 90% of the toys were identical to their US counterparts down to the packaging, there's still Hyper Hobby exclusive clear EZ/Legends Bumblebee, Lawson exclusive metallic Deluxe Bumblebee and the C3x convention exclusive Fusion Cluster editions of Protoform Prime and Starscream, which are worthy to be pointed out at the very least. So should we make a) a full list of Japanese toys, b) a small blurb about how the line was handled in Japan in general and then list those exclusives, or c) ONLY list the exclusives, without giving them any further context (since therewere also some other Japanese exclusives that were simply US toys sold as exclusives because Takara didn't see them viable as mass releases)?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 16:55, 15 September 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Transformers (2007 toyline)

2007-09-09T12:37:48Z

69.2.169.43: Fixed Wave 5. Dropkick and Recon Barricade were listed as Wave 6.

Remarkably, the producers of the small independent [[Transformers (2007)|Transformers film]] opening in July 2007 have obtained part of their financing by selling the ''merchandising'' rights for the movie.

==Toyline==

===Action Figures ("main" line)===

====Movie Deluxe Class====

'''Wave 1 (aka "Preview Figures")'''
*Protoform [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]
*Protoform [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]

'''Wave 2'''
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]
*[[Jazz (Movie)|Autobot Jazz]]
*[[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Brawl]]
*[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] (includes small figure of [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]])
*[[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]]
*[[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]] (a non-Movie character, though some designs were made at some point in production)

'''Wave 3'''
*[[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]]
*[[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]] (a non-Movie character, appears in the Movie Game & prequel comics)

'''Wave 4'''
*[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] (a non-Movie character, was to appear in the film, but was replaced by Ironhide)
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Camaro Concept Bumblebee]]
*[[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] (a non-Movie character, appears in the Movie Game & prequel comics)

'''Wave 5'''
*[[Jazz (Movie)|Final Battle Jazz]]
*[[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]] (a non-Movie character, appears in the Movie Game, based on a non-transforming tow-truck that appears in the movie)
*[[Payload (Movie)|Payload]] (a non-Movie character, appears in the Movie Game & prequel comics)
*[[Dropkick]] (a non-Movie character, appears in the Movie Game)
*[[Barricade (Movie)|Recon Barricade]] (a repaint of Barricade)

'''Future releases (confirmed at BotCon 2007)'''
*[[Cliffjumper (Movie)|Cliffjumper]] (non-Movie character)
*[[Landmine (Movie)|Landmine]]
*[[Stockade (Movie)|Stockade]]

====Movie Voyager Class====

'''Wave 1'''
*[[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] (includes non-transforming [[Scale|scaled-down]] figurine of [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]])
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Autobot Ratchet]]

'''Wave 2'''
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]

'''Wave 3'''
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]

'''Wave 3.5'''
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]

'''Wave 4'''
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Rescue Ratchet]] ([[G1]]-[[homage]] [[redeco]] of Ratchet)
*[[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] (a non-Movie character, [[redeco]]/[[remold]] of Starscream using the same head sculpt as the Target exclusive Starscream redeco)

'''Future releases (confirmed at BotCon 2007)'''
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|First Strike Optimus Prime]] ([[G1]]-[[homage]] [[redeco]] of Optimus Prime)
*[[Evac (Movie)|Evac]]
*[[Incinerator (Movie)|Incinerator]]

====Movie Leader Class====

'''Wave 1'''
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]

'''Wave 2'''
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]

'''Wave 3'''
*[[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Brawl]]

'''Wave 4'''
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Nightwatch Optimus Prime]] ([[redeco]] of Optimus Prime)

'''Future releases (confirmed at BotCon 2007)'''
*[[Brawl (Movie)|Desert Attack Brawl]] ([[redeco]] of Decepticon Brawl)

===Other Action Figures===

====Movie Legends====
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]
*[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]
*[[Jazz (Movie)|Autobot Jazz]]
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Autobot Ratchet]]

'''Wave 2'''
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]

'''Wave 3'''
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]
*[[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]]

====Movie [[Real Gear Robots]]====
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Speed Dial 800]] (Mobile Phone)
*[[Longview]] (Binoculars)
*[[Spy Shot 6]] (Digital Camera)
*[[Power Up VT6]] (Portable Video Game Player)

'''Wave 2'''
*[[Booster X10]] (MP3 Player)
*[[Zoom Out 25X]] (Digital Video Camera)

'''Wave 3'''
*[[Meantime]] (Digital Watch)
*[[High Score 100]] (Game Console Controller)

'''Wave 4'''
*[[Wire Tap V20]] (Mobile Phone)
*[[Night Beat 7]] (MP3 Player)

====Movie Ultimate====
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Ultimate Bumblebee]]

===Fast Transformers Fun===
====Cyber Stompin' Robots====
(non-transforming)
*Cyber Stompin' [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]
*Cyber Stompin' [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]

====[[Cyber Slammers]]====
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]
*[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]

'''Wave 2'''
*[[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Brawl]]
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Autobot Ratchet]]

'''Wave 3'''
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee (Camaro Concept)]]

====Fast Action Battlers====
'''Wave 1'''
*Cannon Blast [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]
*Battle Blade [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]
*Power Hook [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]
*Ion Blast [[Jazz (Movie)|Autobot Jazz]]

'''Wave 2'''
*Double Missile [[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Brawl]]
*Axe Attack [[Ratchet (Movie)|Autobot Ratchet]]

'''Wave 3'''
*Disc Blast [[Frenzy (Movie)|Decepticon Frenzy]]
*Gyro Blade [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]]
*Fusion Blast [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]

'''Wave 4'''
*Blade Shield [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]
*Plasma Punch [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]

===Role Play===

====Helmet Role Play====
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] Voice Changer (helmet)

====Converting Arm Blasters Role Play====
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] Battle Rig Blaster
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] Barrel Roll Blaster

====Super Soaker Gauntlet Blaster====
*Transformers Water Shooter

====T.E.C.H. (Transformers Electronic Combat Hardware)====

'''Wave 1'''
*Digital Dagger
*Quick Bow

'''Wave 2'''
*Tight Shot
*Flash Bang

'''Wave 3'''
*Autofire

===Store exclusives===

====Target exclusive Scouts====

'''Wave 1'''
*Hardtop (redeco of Cybertron Hardtop)
*Arcee (redeco of Energon Arcee)
*Signal Flare (redeco of Energon Signal Flare)

'''Wave 2'''
*Strongarm (redeco of Energon Strongarm)
*Skyblast (redeco of Energon Skyblast)
*Clocker (redeco of Cybertron Clocker)

'''Wave 3'''
*Armorhide (redeco of Cybertron Armorhide)
*Elita One (redeco of Energon Arcee)
*Air Raid (redeco of Energon Skyblast)

====Store exclusive redecos====

'''Target exclusives'''
*Robo-Vision Optimus Prime (redeco of Voyager Class Optimus Prime)
*Autobot Jazz ([[G1]]-[[homage]] [[redeco]] of Deluxe Class Autobot Jazz)
*Starscream ([[G1]]-[[homage]] [[redeco]] of Voyager Class Starscream)

====Store exclusive multi-packs====

'''Costco exclusives'''
*Voyager Class Optimus Prime with bonus figures (Legends Class Bumblebee & Autobot Jazz)

'''Sam's Club exclusives'''
*Deluxe three-pack (Decepticon Brawl, Bonecrusher & Autobot Jazz)

'''Target exclusives'''
*Legends four-pack (Movie Legends Class Optimus Prime, Legends of Cybertron Optimus Prime, Movie Legends Class Megatron & Legends of Cybertron Megatron)
*"Evolution of a Hero" two-pack (Deluxe Class "Classic Camaro" Bumblebee & "Camaro Concept" Bumblebee)

'''Toys'R'Us exclusives'''
*"Decepticon Desert Attack" two-pack (Voyager Class Blackout & Deluxe Class Scorponok)
*Legends six-pack (Bumblebee, Autobot Jazz, Optimus Prime, Megatron, Barricade & Starscream)

'''Wal*Mart exclusives'''
*"First Encounter" two-pack (Deluxe Class Bumblebee & Deluxe Class Barricade)
*"Leader for the Ages" two-pack (Fast Action Battler Optimus Prime & Classics "Ultimate Battle" two-pack Optimus Prime)
*"Mass Media Battle" two-pack (Real Gear Robots Speed Dial 800 & Booster X10)
*"Robo Recon Team" two-pack (Real Gear Robots Spy Shot 6 & Longview)
*"Brain Scrambler Team" two-pack (Real Gear Robots Power Up VT6 & Zoom Out 25X)

===Plain Transformers Fun===
'''Mr Potato Head Transformers'''
*[[Optimash Prime]]

'''Plush Transformers
*[[Optimus Prime (G1) toys|Softimus Prime]] ([[G1]]-style Prime, soft toy transforms by turning inside out, using velcro)
*[[Bumblebee (G1)|Slumblebee]] (ditto, for G1-styled Bumblebee)

====Robot Heroes====
(2-inch non-transforming cutified figurines similar to Star Wars Galactic Heroes et al. [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|G1 cartoon]] characters in Movie packaging)

'''Wave 1'''
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] vs. [[Ravage]]
*[[Hot Rod toys|Rodimus]] vs. [[Shrapnel (G1)|Insecticon]] (Actually Hot Rod vs. Shrapnel)
*[[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] vs. [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]
*[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] vs. [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]

'''Wave 2'''
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] vs. [[Megatron (G1) toys|Megatron]]
*[[Bumblebee (G1) toys |Bumblebee]] vs. [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]

'''Wave 3'''
*[[Optimus Prime (G1) toys |Optimus Prime]] unleashing the Matrix vs. [[Unicron]]
*[[Jazz (G1)|Autobot Jazz]] vs. [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]

'''Wave 4?'''
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] vs. [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]]
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] vs. [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] vs. [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]
*[[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] vs. [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]]

===Collector===
'''Unleashed'''
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]
*[[optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] Turnaround
*[[megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] Turnaround
'''Movie Titanium'''
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]
*[[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]]
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]

==Merchandise==
* [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=123245 Exhaustive Transformers 2007 merchandise list, maintained by AMS.]

==Trivia==
*As of the Movie toyline, the "Ultra" pricepoint has been abolished. Whether this will continue to be the case for future lines remains to be seen, although Hasbro has stated a possible return to this pricepoint with Classics 2.0.

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Talk:Transformers (2007 toyline)

2007-09-02T15:44:47Z

69.2.169.43: /* "Wave" numbering makes no sense */

''"the Movie line is essentially unprecedented in that it will be offering some (non Prime & Megs) characters in multiple size classes"''
: In Beast Machines, we got Cheetors (not counting Night Attack) and Jetstorms in two size classes. In Cybertron, we got both a Voyager and Supreme Starscream (though one was offered only in a two-pack over here), nevermind the large number of Legends toys we got of characters. This isn't unprecedented at all. When a line has a limited number of characters, there's going to be multiple versions. It was true in Beast Machines and it's true now. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:57, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
::And then there were the Spy-Changer-sized versions of Prime, Magnus, Scourge and X-Brawn... in RID... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:00, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

==Wave 2==
I know I've already found some Wave 2 stuff (Robot Heroes and Real Gear guys, mainly). If we know what's in Wave 2, i.e., EE or BBTS or someone has an assortment listing, is it a problem to list it? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:15, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
:The "coming soon" spoiler policy is mostly just for stuff stolen from a factory, heard from a friend of a friend who works at ILM, that leaked script which is absolutely totally the real deal I swear, or Bodycount. The club stuff we withhold out of respect; everything else is so we don't try to post information when there aren't actually reliable sources. Speculation, unreliable information, and stuff that's warrant to change really has no place here.
:I would say that things you saw on a Target shelf definitely don't fit that criteria. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 19:54, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

== Wave I+II? ==

Just a random through--someone somewhere said the current wave (Concept Bumblebee/Deluxe Arcee/Dreadwing) was actually Wave III, with Waves I and II being released simultaneously (Wave II, figure-wise, consisting of solely Wreckage and Swindle). This leaves only characters that actually appeared in the movie, which I suppose makes sense, but is there any credence to this?
[[User:69.2.169.43|69.2.169.43]] 17:43, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

:The waves are completely wrong as listed, if anyone wants to take the time and correct them this is how they were actually released:

DELUXE -

Wave 0 -
Protoform Optimus Prime,
Protoform Starscream

Wave 1 -
Bumblebee ('74 Version),
Jazz,
Barricade,
Brawl,
Wreckage,
Scorponok

Wave 2 -
Swindle,
Bonecrusher

Wave 3 -
Bumblebee ('09 Version),
Arcee,
Dreadwing

Wave 4 -
Payload,
Longarm,
Dropkick,
Final Battle Jazz,
Recon Barricade

Wave 5 -
Cliffjumper ('08 BB redeco),
Landmine,
Stockade

VOYAGER -

Wave 1 -
Starscream,
Ironhide,
Blackout,
Rachet

Wave 2 -
Optimus Prime,
Megatron

Wave 3 -
Thundercracker,
Rescue Rachet

Wave 4 -
Incinerator,
Evac,
First Strike Optimus Prime (G1 redeco)

LEADER -

Wave 1 -
Optimus Prime,
Megatron

Wave 2 -
Brawl

Wave 3 -
Night Watch Optimus Prime,
Desert Attack Brawl

You sure about that? I could have sworn I saw Bonecrusher out at the same time as the rest of the movie guys (this point is void if I+II came out at the same time, obviously.) [[User:69.2.169.43|69.2.169.43]] 00:26, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Update, OP and above poster here--I was at Wal-Mart today, and went into the Garden Center (local Wallyworld keeps new shipments/overstock of toys there--don't ask.) with the hope of finding that box of CLassics I saw a week ago and hadn't been put out yet. Instead I found a box marked "TRA MOVIE DELUXE WAVE 05 07." Upon opening it (They don't mind. Honest.) I found a Dropkick, Payload, Jazz (<s>maybe</s> probably two, didn't look quite as hard as I should have), Concept Bumblebee, Recon Barricade and two Dreadwings. This throws off the entire chart above, unless of course Hasbro refers to that Wave 0 as Wave 1. Which would make sense.

I guess what I'm trying to say is internally Hasbro called the protoform wave Wave 1, and Concept Bumblebees are shipping again. [[User:69.2.169.43|69.2.169.43]] 22:28, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

== "Wave" numbering makes no sense ==

It's inconsistent with Hasbro's internal numbering, and so is the idea of listing toys from different size classes as part of the same "wave". Essentially, the numbers in this list are randomly attributed because some toys ''happened'' to be available in stores roughly around the same time. Also, store exclusives (other than the Target Scouts) are missing completely, even though at least some of them (Target "G1" Starscream and Jazz, for example) are considerably different from their mass retail counterparts. Essentially, this list looks like it was made by someone who doesn't know how distribution works, but tries to explain why certain toys were available in stores at certain times.

Furthermore, '''yes''', Swindle and Bonecrusher are officially a different wave than the one that originally contained Jazz, Barricade etc. (even though they're still included in the Swindle/Bonecrusher wave in smaller quantities). The reason for this is that Hasbro shipped out several waves even before the official street date, and thus stores started stocking them at the same time. Officially per Hasbro, wave 1 is multiples of Protoform Prime/Starscream, wave 2 is Bumblebee/Barricade/Jazz/Brawl/Scorponok/Wreckage, and wave 3 is Swindle/Bonecrusher with some more of Bumblebee/Barricade/Jazz/Brawl.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:13, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

:So. better.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:48, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Wave 6 is wrong, I can tell you from prying open a Wave 5 box that Recon Barricade and Dropkick are with Final Battle Jazz, Longarm, and Payload.
Speaking of Payload, I figured he was based off the transforming tow truck, if not in exact form, than in spirit.
Other minor quibbles: Wave 3.5? Is that official? Ultimate Bumblebee appears to be a par of the Real Gears line, as well. Simple text size increase should fix this. [[User:69.2.169.43|69.2.169.43]] 15:44, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

== Burger King ==

I noticed the BK toys are horribly misslisted. Megatron has his under "toys" (where it should be). But Starscreams is under "merchandise". All others are missing. I ''heavily'' recomend ''someone'' fix this. Iwould, but I don`t have a single one!--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 22:16, 1 September 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Transformers (2007 toyline)

2007-08-26T22:28:19Z

69.2.169.43: /* Wave I+II? */

Talk:Transformers (2007 toyline)

2007-08-26T00:26:26Z

69.2.169.43: /* Wave I+II? */

Talk:Transformers (2007 toyline)

2007-07-29T17:43:56Z

69.2.169.43: Wave I+II?